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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jsalsman/status/24254279619452929Jan 10 06:04
TechrightsBot-sc@jsalsman: SO many RWNJ incitement "s today from @loriguffey @GottaLaff @GregMitch @manyko2 @allisonkilkenny @tomtomorrow @schestowitz & @JasonLeopoldJan 10 06:04
schestowitz[19:23] <_Goblin> Ive learnt somethingJan 10 06:04
schestowitz[19:23] <ThistleWeb> I got that from an identica profile because schestowitz still didn't bother giving ANY clues, despite lining the guest upJan 10 06:05
schestowitz[19:23] <ThistleWeb> THAT is a perfect example of communication failJan 10 06:05
schestowitz[19:24] <ThistleWeb> THAT is a perfect example of why techbytes is going NOWHEREJan 10 06:05
schestowitz[19:24] <ThistleWeb> business uni student, into music, judo, scifi and video editingJan 10 06:05
schestowitz[19:25] <ThistleWeb> all from the profileJan 10 06:05
schestowitz[19:25] <ThistleWeb> we shouldn't have to go exploring to find that ourselvesJan 10 06:05
schestowitz[19:26] <ThistleWeb> even after this conversation about the need to discuss thing, there's still nothing forthcomingJan 10 06:05
schestowitz[19:27] <_Goblin> sorry all....Im having a smoke then a shower....I'll be back shortly....Jan 10 06:05
schestowitz[19:27] <ThistleWeb> his name is Gordon too btwJan 10 06:05
schestowitz[19:27] <schestowitz> [19:23] <ThistleWeb> I got that from an identica profile because schestowitz still didn't bother giving ANY clues, despite lining the guest upJan 10 06:05
schestowitz[19:27] <schestowitz> I didn't line anyone upJan 10 06:05
schestowitz[19:28] <schestowitz> He asked goblin and I to come on the showJan 10 06:05
schestowitz[19:28] <_Goblin> Sorry, I didn't see him ask me.Jan 10 06:05
schestowitz[19:28] <schestowitz> he hanged out in the #techrights channelJan 10 06:05
schestowitz[19:28] <schestowitz> We can't say "no" to himJan 10 06:05
schestowitz[19:28] <schestowitz> He's a friendly guyJan 10 06:05
schestowitz[19:29] <_Goblin> like I say, he seemed a decent chap.Jan 10 06:05
schestowitz[19:29] <_Goblin> right smoke and showerJan 10 06:05
schestowitz[19:29] <ThistleWeb> I'm not suggesting we do say noJan 10 06:05
schestowitz[19:29] <schestowitz> _Goblin: you were around when he askedJan 10 06:05
schestowitz[19:29] <schestowitz> I didn't say yesJan 10 06:05
schestowitz[19:29] <schestowitz> I just saw you telling him what time we recordJan 10 06:05
schestowitz[19:29] <schestowitz> he's a SIP fanJan 10 06:05
schestowitz[19:30] <_Goblin> ah...Jan 10 06:05
schestowitz[19:30] <schestowitz> see yesterday's log...Jan 10 06:05
schestowitz[19:30] <_Goblin> No he was talking if he was coming on and I asked him if he was.....I don't have an issue......I told him roughly what time we record.....Jan 10 06:05
schestowitz[19:30] <schestowitz> gap in communicationJan 10 06:05
schestowitz[19:31] <_Goblin> yeah and yesterday if I was in channel I wasn't here.......can't remember if I left the machine on or not when I was at work.Jan 10 06:05
schestowitz[19:31] <schestowitz> He was eager to be on it, I didn't say he would be on itJan 10 06:05
schestowitz[19:31] <schestowitz> I said  he should wait for you to come onlineJan 10 06:05
schestowitz[19:31] <schestowitz> And then you cameJan 10 06:05
schestowitz[19:32] <schestowitz> Cause Gordon decided to embargo the other channelJan 10 06:05
schestowitz[19:32] <_Goblin> not an issue....think as you say its more just of a communication issue.Jan 10 06:05
schestowitz[19:32] <ThistleWeb> maybe this has just played into the whole "nothing gets discussed"Jan 10 06:05
schestowitz[19:32] <schestowitz> Coz I don't ban ryan againJan 10 06:05
schestowitz[19:32] <ThistleWeb> no, I left because your irc poilcy is a fairy taleJan 10 06:05
schestowitz[19:32] <schestowitz> ThistleWeb: cause I don't sit on IRC all the timeJan 10 06:05
schestowitz[19:32] <_Goblin> to be fair though and play devils advocate, Ryan even insulted and offended me with his islamaphobiaJan 10 06:05
schestowitz[19:32] <schestowitz> ThistleWeb: no room for compromises?Jan 10 06:05
schestowitz[19:32] <ThistleWeb> I left because you gave your word, and decided not to honour it when the time cameJan 10 06:05
schestowitz[19:33] <schestowitz> ThistleWeb: I've been trying to be fair to you, at the expense of my feelings about banning someoneJan 10 06:06
schestowitz[19:33] <ThistleWeb> I left because it's your channel, with your rulesJan 10 06:06
schestowitz[19:33] <schestowitz> Did you not see jono and I spending a whole morning trying to find ryan, fearing he was a danger to himself/others?Jan 10 06:06
schestowitz[19:33] <ThistleWeb> if those change all the time, so be itJan 10 06:06
schestowitz[19:33] <schestowitz> The whole thing was a messJan 10 06:06
schestowitz[19:33] <schestowitz> ThistleWeb: I think you sometimes look for reasons to argueJan 10 06:06
schestowitz[19:34] <_Goblin> ..........Jan 10 06:06
schestowitz[19:34] <schestowitz> If you look for reasons for X, you often will find {x}Jan 10 06:06
schestowitz[19:34] <_Goblin> anyway...before this spirals out of control.........Jan 10 06:06
schestowitz[19:34] <ThistleWeb> I don't know what to say to thatJan 10 06:06
schestowitz[19:34] <_Goblin> as both of you I regard as friends...Jan 10 06:06
schestowitz[19:34] <_Goblin> lets agree to differ and work together for a solution and compromiseJan 10 06:06
schestowitz[19:35] <schestowitz> I'd like thatJan 10 06:06
schestowitz[19:35] <ThistleWeb> we differ yesJan 10 06:06
schestowitz[19:35] <schestowitz> the techrights channel thing is OKJan 10 06:06
schestowitz[19:35] <schestowitz> No problem there... if you choose not to be there in the noiseJan 10 06:06
schestowitz[19:36] <_Goblin> If I may I will list peoples strong points....I think Gordon makes some excellent points and has a grasp on a decent distribution page for the show.....he is also damn entertaining on the mic.....Jan 10 06:06
schestowitz[19:36] <schestowitz> I can spend lots of time here... sometimes under pressure in other workspaces so not responding muchJan 10 06:06
schestowitz[19:36] <schestowitz> _Goblin: yesJan 10 06:06
schestowitz[19:36] <schestowitz> and me being too stressed outJan 10 06:06
schestowitz[19:36] <_Goblin> I think Roy spends time talking about subjects which readers of his site are very interested in and goes into depth to a level way beyond me,,,,,Jan 10 06:06
schestowitz[19:36] <schestowitz> I have a backlog of 25 postsJan 10 06:06
schestowitz[19:36] <schestowitz> So I'm prickly with time and stuff..Jan 10 06:06
schestowitz[19:36] <_Goblin> I think I sit on the fence.....and offer a more "average user" view.....Jan 10 06:06
schestowitz[19:37] <_Goblin> so I think its a great combination.Jan 10 06:06
schestowitz[19:37] <schestowitz> yesJan 10 06:06
schestowitz[19:37] <_Goblin> and of course I have the BBC voice which neither of you are any good at! ;)Jan 10 06:06
schestowitz[19:38] <_Goblin> so please, it would be nice for us to stick the show out with a list of comprises and changes having bits that everyone wants incorporated.Jan 10 06:06
schestowitz[19:38] <ThistleWeb> you clearly haven't heard the short lived cult classic BBC Haggis ;PJan 10 06:06
schestowitz[19:38] <_Goblin> :)Jan 10 06:13
schestowitz[19:38] <_Goblin> and on that note....Im off for a fag and shower.Jan 10 06:13
schestowitz[19:39] <schestowitz> HehJan 10 06:13
schestowitz[19:39] <schestowitz> Yes, _Goblin has the good voice and ThistleWeb the most masculine oneJan 10 06:13
schestowitz[19:40] <ThistleWeb> do you remember the pre-record chat before the last show?Jan 10 06:13
schestowitz[19:40] <ThistleWeb> where we all looked at the site, suggestions, checked permissions, added a guestbook, wiki etcJan 10 06:13
schestowitz[19:41] <ThistleWeb> where I got you and _Goblin to register etcJan 10 06:13
schestowitz[19:42] <ThistleWeb> THIS is what I mean by collaborating, discussing, that happened to be a 15min chat on skype, but that type of discussion on IRC is largely what I planned for this channel, as and when we're all avaialbleJan 10 06:13
schestowitz[19:43] <ThistleWeb> so that we can make decisions, rule things in and out, and move forward with implementing themJan 10 06:13
schestowitz[19:43] <schestowitz> Good pointJan 10 06:13
schestowitz[19:43] <ThistleWeb> we can't do that with a quick 15min chat on skype before each show, once per weekJan 10 06:13
schestowitz[19:43] <schestowitz> I apologiseJan 10 06:13
schestowitz[19:43] <ThistleWeb> we just can'tJan 10 06:13
schestowitz[19:43] <ThistleWeb> this is what's driving me nutsJan 10 06:13
schestowitz[19:44] <ThistleWeb> even during that discussion, it was me and _GoblinJan 10 06:13
schestowitz[19:44] <ThistleWeb> you didn't even tell me you'd registered so I could change the settings, I had to find that from the user listJan 10 06:13
schestowitz[19:44] <ThistleWeb> I understand you were busy checking the recording settingsJan 10 06:13
schestowitz[19:45] <ThistleWeb> so as much as the recording itself is kinda freeflow, that backend isn'tJan 10 06:13
schestowitz[19:45] <ThistleWeb> that backend is the mechanism that listeners and subscribers interact with the showJan 10 06:13
schestowitz[19:46] <ThistleWeb> it's the engine, the show itself is the fuelJan 10 06:13
schestowitz[19:46] <schestowitz> IIRC I had some urgent post to sneak in before the show startedJan 10 06:13
schestowitz[19:46] <schestowitz> My bad...Jan 10 06:13
schestowitz[19:46] <ThistleWeb> yeah fair enoughJan 10 06:13
schestowitz[19:47] <ThistleWeb> that 2/3 discussion, added to the fact that you left the show channel again as soon as the recording finished, again, so the possibility to discuss anything vanished again, helps build up the frustration from meJan 10 06:13
schestowitz[19:48] <ThistleWeb> then not autojoining this channel to allow these discussions, until I felt I had no choice to do that postJan 10 06:13
schestowitz[19:49] <ThistleWeb> then tonight, the misunderstanding about "it's only for the shownotes right?"Jan 10 06:13
schestowitz[19:50] <ThistleWeb> so now you understand why I'm losing patience with everythingJan 10 06:13
schestowitz[19:53] <schestowitz> yeah, I thought it was #tim with new nameJan 10 06:13
schestowitz[19:54] <_Goblin> just popped back between fag/shower........Gordon has a more masculine voice than me?  That sort of comment causes mental scars you know!!!! ;)Jan 10 06:13
schestowitz[19:54] <ThistleWeb> k, I never saw that misunderstanding as an explanation, but okJan 10 06:13
schestowitz[19:55] <ThistleWeb> maybe the use of the word chap tips the balanceJan 10 06:13
schestowitz[19:56] <ThistleWeb> ;PJan 10 06:13
schestowitz[19:57] <schestowitz> _Goblin: "fag/shower"?Jan 10 06:13
schestowitz[19:57] <schestowitz> In isolation is sounds innocent enuff :-_Jan 10 06:13
schestowitz[20:06] <_Goblin> schestowitz: lol...I see the implication....Jan 10 06:14
schestowitz[20:07] <schestowitz> "Too MUCH details"Jan 10 06:14
schestowitz[20:07] <schestowitz> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Summer_coding_ideas_for_2011Jan 10 06:14
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Summer coding ideas for 2011 - FedoraProject .::. Size~: 16.15 KBJan 10 06:14
schestowitz[20:07] <TechBytesBot> Title: Summer coding ideas for 2011 - FedoraProject .::. Size~: 13.57 KBJan 10 06:14
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/61876159Jan 10 07:56
TechrightsBot-sc@Al-Scandar Solstag (solstag)'s status on Monday, 10-Jan-11 07:41:03 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Like the good admiral warned us: apple... TRAPple! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACVWFDD64KEJan 10 07:56
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/robintcox/status/24426742919725056Jan 10 11:52
TechrightsBot-sc@robintcox: RT @schestowitz If people in public office choose secrecy, it is still "public" office?Jan 10 11:52
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/fmgil/status/24431386601463808Jan 10 11:52
TechrightsBot-sc@fmgil: @schestowitz The end of Facebook is an internet rumor. Check this out, please: http://is.gd/ktNxrJan 10 11:52
TechrightsBot-sc-> Title: FALSE RUMOR: Facebook Shutting Down on March 15 .::. Size~: 40.31 KBJan 10 11:52
schestowitzI knew it was a jokeJan 10 11:52
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MinceRhttp://www.doesnotplaywellwithothers.com/comics/2011-01-07-pwc-000f.pngJan 10 12:24
TechrightsBot-scNot a web page! Aborting image/png typeJan 10 12:24
qu1j0t3hi allJan 10 12:25
MinceRhayJan 10 12:27
schestowitzHello!Jan 10 12:32
schestowitzBack to Canada yet?Jan 10 12:32
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/qu1j0t3/status/24442905837961217Jan 10 12:35
TechrightsBot-sc@qu1j0t3: @trmanco I have the many source changes to #phirce at home. I can commit end of Jan if u can allow as contributor, thanks!! cc @schestowitzJan 10 12:35
schestowitzNeat.Jan 10 12:35
schestowitzqu1j0t3: Friedman image ownage @ http://techrights.org/2011/01/07/marginalising-students-and-teachers/ http://techrights.org/2011/01/09/teach-for-america-es/Jan 10 12:36
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Teach for America, Inc. (TFA) a New Gates Euphemism for Indoctrinating American’s Next Generation | Techrights .::. Size~: 143.67 KBJan 10 12:36
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qu1j0t3schestowitz: the MiSeducation of AmericaJan 10 12:50
schestowitzMiss America?Jan 10 12:53
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lj3iNxZ8DwwJan 10 12:53
TechrightsBot-scTitle:      YouTube         - Miss Teen USA 2007 - South Carolina answers a question    .::. Size~: 128.69 KBJan 10 12:53
qu1j0t3seen itJan 10 12:54
qu1j0t3she's probably in the highest percentileJan 10 12:54
schestowitzNo, there are some smart onesJan 10 12:56
qu1j0t3good article on TFAJan 10 12:56
schestowitzBut you gotta admit, she looks kind of cute!Jan 10 12:56
qu1j0t3not my typeJan 10 12:57
schestowitzI said looksJan 10 12:57
qu1j0t3do you have _any_ idea where I am?Jan 10 12:57
qu1j0t3:)Jan 10 12:57
schestowitzBut maybe still not your type, I don't knowJan 10 12:57
qu1j0t3not my type of looks either :)Jan 10 12:57
schestowitzah, OKJan 10 12:57
qu1j0t3heheJan 10 12:57
schestowitzI made assumptionsJan 10 12:57
qu1j0t3so how has 2011 been so far?Jan 10 12:57
schestowitzCrap for TechrightsJan 10 12:57
schestowitzCause we had downtimesJan 10 12:57
schestowitzmanyJan 10 12:57
schestowitzheadachesJan 10 12:57
qu1j0t3i missed tweeting so much i started writing tweets on pen and paperJan 10 12:58
qu1j0t310 hour bus trip will do thatJan 10 12:58
schestowitzBut we also have a new contributor from Canada, who helps aroundJan 10 12:58
schestowitzqu1j0t3: makes senseJan 10 12:58
schestowitzTweets are conciseJan 10 12:58
schestowitzAnd you can always refine a word here and thereJan 10 12:58
qu1j0t3i have a queue to postJan 10 12:58
qu1j0t3hahaJan 10 12:58
qu1j0t3yeah i get very upset when i forget soething i drafed in my headJan 10 12:58
qu1j0t3so i have to write them downJan 10 12:58
schestowitzI sometimes think of one when I make coffee or do a set...Jan 10 12:58
qu1j0t3“Insisting on controlling the use of one’s gift of money is another low form of philanthropy. Today’s givers want to control others’ lives.”Jan 10 12:59
qu1j0t3i am not sure it is philanthropy at all.Jan 10 12:59
qu1j0t3it's just a continuation of war and business under a different maskJan 10 12:59
qu1j0t3'business'Jan 10 12:59
schestowitzWhen away I take notes in my PalmJan 10 12:59
qu1j0t3hahahahahahaJan 10 12:59
schestowitzBut never tweetsJan 10 12:59
schestowitzBizNiz(TM)Jan 10 13:00
schestowitzBusiness gets a bad name from itJan 10 13:00
schestowitzBusiness could be trade of goods in the olden daysJan 10 13:00
schestowitzNow it can be associated with Boeing using the Home Secretary as a saleswomen in Saudi ArabiaJan 10 13:01
schestowitz*womanJan 10 13:01
schestowitzI've just had a verbal sort of argumentJan 10 13:01
qu1j0t3BAEJan 10 13:01
schestowitzAbout my ideas being "different", or topics ratherJan 10 13:01
qu1j0t3sighJan 10 13:01
qu1j0t3schestowitz: don't get me started. my series of tweets is about thisJan 10 13:02
schestowitzHard to communicate with people to whom topics include people and gossipJan 10 13:02
qu1j0t3schestowitz: i'm learning more every day about how the 'real world' is set upJan 10 13:02
schestowitzIf I try programming with those programmers, then too they only know about it as far as their job goes. No passion.Jan 10 13:02
qu1j0t3schestowitz: it's amazing how much clrity one gets from being able to stand outside the controlled worldJan 10 13:02
qu1j0t3schestowitz: it's the difference between being on heroin and being cleanJan 10 13:03
schestowitzSo it usually ends with, if you don't know about what affects 90% of this world, don't berate those who do... and do something about itJan 10 13:03
schestowitz[13:02] <qu1j0t3> schestowitz: i'm learning more every day about how the 'real world' is set upJan 10 13:03
schestowitzReal worldJan 10 13:03
schestowitzCarefulJan 10 13:03
schestowitzOrwellian inversionJan 10 13:03
qu1j0t3yeah, how 'most' people liveJan 10 13:03
schestowitzReal world means the fake worldJan 10 13:03
schestowitzThe AmericanDream(TM) (by aspiration only) and allJan 10 13:04
qu1j0t3we need a better word for itJan 10 13:04
qu1j0t3mental ghetto maybeJan 10 13:04
schestowitzThe real world is exactly the opposite of what people mean by Real WorldJan 10 13:04
qu1j0t3hahaJan 10 13:04
schestowitzJust like freedom means oppositeJan 10 13:04
schestowitzFreedom is not free marketJan 10 13:04
qu1j0t3yes, wrong termJan 10 13:04
schestowitzFree market is deregulationJan 10 13:04
schestowitzFor corporations over peopleJan 10 13:04
schestowitzNot people over corporationasJan 10 13:04
schestowitzSo there too there's an inversion that's so pervasive people are led to absorbing itJan 10 13:05
qu1j0t3schestowitz: i have some photographs which may make my pointJan 10 13:05
schestowitzGood.Jan 10 13:05
qu1j0t3schestowitz: or not. i don't think many ppl are really interestedJan 10 13:05
schestowitzBut the views of these in the West of differentJan 10 13:05
schestowitzYou really need to put people in a diaper there to undersatndJan 10 13:06
schestowitzNot some tourist with cargo pants and $500 Canon cameraJan 10 13:06
qu1j0t3it's not that aspect which i am concerend withJan 10 13:06
schestowitzOK, I overassumedJan 10 13:06
qu1j0t3it's what you said: false aspirationsJan 10 13:06
qu1j0t3indoctrination,control, maintenance of all aspects of impoverished lifeJan 10 13:07
qu1j0t3as is done in the USJan 10 13:07
qu1j0t3to be mentally impoverished is just as deadlyJan 10 13:07
schestowitzBTW, I start a face recognition project next month (3D)Jan 10 13:07
schestowitzBut I also want to start a company on the sideJan 10 13:07
schestowitzAll the code I made since forever is Free software and I can make use of that+expertise around itJan 10 13:08
qu1j0t3:)Jan 10 13:08
qu1j0t3Quad is offline for a day...?Jan 10 13:08
schestowitzDid you see Twitternews?Jan 10 13:08
schestowitzI was fast in accusing twitter, based on false infoJan 10 13:08
schestowitzSeems like they fought to show what the DoJ is doingJan 10 13:08
schestowitzSo you were rightJan 10 13:08
schestowitzThey go after Jacon Applebaum and others nowJan 10 13:09
schestowitzDOJ.. so I assume they make up a case and scare othersJan 10 13:09
schestowitz[13:08] <qu1j0t3> Quad is offline for a day...?Jan 10 13:09
schestowitzWas here earlier, her every dayJan 10 13:09
schestowitzHe's cool, we also exchanged DVsJan 10 13:09
schestowitzCVsJan 10 13:09
schestowitzWe share interests professionallyJan 10 13:09
schestowitzhttp://www.linuxaria.com/article/mono-linux-good-bad?lang=en "Jan 10 13:25
schestowitzAs first thing i want to say that i’m not so well informed about the background of the MonoJan 10 13:25
schestowitzproject, his licenses model and possible implications, and I’m trying to get an idea after reading a few posts on techrights.org.Jan 10 13:25
schestowitz"Jan 10 13:25
schestowitzNiceJan 10 13:25
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oiaohmI guess you missed my comment at the end of that.  schestowitzJan 10 13:27
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schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/61895045Jan 10 14:00
TechrightsBot-sc@Michel (michelenlared)'s status on Monday, 10-Jan-11 13:35:17 UTC - Identi.ca: ♺ @schestowitz: #Mono it’s good or bad for Linux ?  http://is.gd/ku5Ac #novell #gnu #linux #swpats #techrights #api #dotnet #fsJan 10 14:00
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schestowitzoiaohm: yeah, I noticedJan 10 14:00
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/61895548Jan 10 14:01
TechrightsBot-sc@Ajibola Okubanjo (okubax)'s status on Monday, 10-Jan-11 13:42:09 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz still on mono's case?Jan 10 14:01
oiaohmThere are lot of not good trends happening to mono.Jan 10 14:01
schestowitzAs always.Jan 10 14:01
oiaohmIt all started as Mono moved to MIT licence where it could.Jan 10 14:01
schestowitzLike BansheeJan 10 14:19
schestowitzParts of Mono are MS-PL-licensedJan 10 14:19
schestowitzqu1j0t3: https://twitter.com/sinaisix/status/24442614480642049Jan 10 14:19
TechrightsBot-sc@sinaisix: @schestowitz I'm sad. I've personally not been a fan of mosanto or research that claims their crap is wholesome. Now this...:-(Jan 10 14:19
schestowitzHe's from Ghana BTWJan 10 14:20
schestowitzNice chapJan 10 14:20
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/sinaisix/status/24443236261040128Jan 10 14:20
TechrightsBot-sc@sinaisix: @schestowitz I'll read closely and add my voice to creating awareness about the poison they are bringing to AfricaJan 10 14:20
schestowitzqu1j0t3: re https://twitter.com/qu1j0t3/status/24444148576681984Jan 10 14:20
TechrightsBot-sc@qu1j0t3: .@laurelrusswurm My assessment of Anonymous is based on what I see chez Anonymous (4chan). Bunch of bored kids, not political. @schestowitzJan 10 14:20
schestowitzBut they think they helpJan 10 14:20
schestowitzThe V film gave them motivationJan 10 14:20
schestowitzThanks for the RD btw https://twitter.com/qu1j0t3/status/24447479755837441Jan 10 14:21
TechrightsBot-sc@qu1j0t3: RT @schestowitz Teach for America, Inc #TFA=New Gates Euphemism for Indoctrinating American’s Next Generation http://ur1.ca/2ruzg #educationJan 10 14:21
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schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/61891101Jan 10 14:32
TechrightsBot-sc@Dr. Roy Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Monday, 10-Jan-11 12:20:45 UTC - Identi.ca: @sinaisix on another subject, how familiar are you with #AGRA  http://is.gd/kt3KH (many links at the bottom part too [1]-[11])Jan 10 14:32
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schestowitzI've convinced an activist from Ghana to post articles about AGRAGATESJan 10 14:33
qu1j0t3:)Jan 10 15:03
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMaK6k4oZ20Jan 10 15:03
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/laurelrusswurm/status/24480855313350656Jan 10 15:15
TechrightsBot-sc@laurelrusswurm: @schestowitz a new low in pundom, Roy.... of course, it made me smile :DJan 10 15:15
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-mwMVAeHvsJan 10 15:16
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qu1j0t3schestowitz: they can't help unless they arepolitically educated and mature, which is exactly what they are not.Jan 10 16:48
qu1j0t3schestowitz: it's a dead end, and I disagree (obv) with LRWJan 10 16:49
qu1j0t3schestowitz: yes, simple efficiency means they will make examples of the 'leaders'. BU tthis started LONG before JA's wanted status/ Moxie Marlinspike harrassed, it was an early clueJan 10 16:50
qu1j0t3schestowitz: the message is 'don't help wikileaks' and all the corporates got the memoJan 10 16:51
qu1j0t3schestowitz: again, this is why NYT was never a partnerJan 10 16:51
qu1j0t3what would be the point??Jan 10 16:51
schestowitzNone. Did you see my article about NYT?Jan 10 16:54
schestowitzMelinda... now also in SpanishJan 10 16:54
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2011/01/09/educacion-melinda-gates/Jan 10 16:54
TechrightsBot-scTitle: ES: Escándalo en Educación – Melinda Gates fuera del Washington Post | Techrights .::. Size~: 92.92 KBJan 10 16:54
schestowitzI have more on media distortion today. See the posts I've just publishedJan 10 16:55
*qu1j0t3 sighsJan 10 17:13
qu1j0t3schestowitz: media distortion is a tautology :)Jan 10 17:13
schestowitzqu1j0t3: I have more comingJan 10 17:44
schestowitzLike 3 posts on Gates+mediaJan 10 17:44
schestowitzI can't keep upJan 10 17:44
schestowitzqu1j0t3: http://techrights.org/2011/01/10/lancet-gates-exxon-mobil/Jan 10 17:52
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Gates Foundation Pays the Lancet Journal — Now Distorts Academic Literature Too | Techrights .::. Size~: 93.45 KBJan 10 17:52
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/ghabuntu/status/24510998782148609Jan 10 18:22
TechrightsBot-sc@ghabuntu: @schestowitz Wow, so the onus now lies on free ranging, individuals like myself :-(. Now they r buying the media tooJan 10 18:22
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/ghabuntu/status/24516515214659584Jan 10 18:22
TechrightsBot-sc@ghabuntu: Gates Foundation Pays More Blogs Like GOOD, Blog4GlobalHealth, and Crosscut to Promote Its Ag... http://bit.ly/dJBR3z (Via @schestowitz)Jan 10 18:22
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/ender2070/status/24484402444632064Jan 10 18:22
TechrightsBot-sc@ender2070: @schestowitz glad you're figuring out the coded language, tollgatersJan 10 18:22
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/24501635455651840 re "@glynmoody why post the CW PR piece without challenge? Like saying sink makers make jobs for plumbers, film makers for corn farmers..."Jan 10 18:24
TechrightsBot-sc@glynmoody: @schestowitz because people who follow me don't need to be spoonfedJan 10 18:24
qu1j0t3schestowitz: maybe you need to abbreviate the bot name to TRJan 10 18:28
qu1j0t3schestowitz: it fouls up this irc client formattingJan 10 18:28
qu1j0t3schestowitz: being so longJan 10 18:29
schestowitzit's distinctJan 10 18:38
schestowitzwe have it in 3 channelsJan 10 18:38
qu1j0t3it's the Techrights part I meanJan 10 18:42
qu1j0t3it's about 4 chars too long overall for this client :)Jan 10 18:42
qu1j0t3what about just TRJan 10 18:43
schestowitzmaybe oblique...Jan 10 18:47
qu1j0t3kJan 10 18:52
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