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| cubezzz | it's in the logs | Feb 07 00:01 |
| schestowitz | He's a friend from identica | Feb 07 00:04 |
| Faither | gn8 | Feb 07 00:43 |
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| oiaohm | Ok for some reason I cannot get to the techrights.org site. schestowitz | Feb 07 01:17 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: No messages either its just hangs. | Feb 07 01:18 |
| sebsebseb | oiaohm: maybe the Mono supporters are DDOS'ing it | Feb 07 01:21 |
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| utsuwa | techrights is down? | Feb 07 01:46 |
| txdv | :D | Feb 07 01:47 |
| sebsebseb | utsuwa: apparently so | Feb 07 01:47 |
| txdv | is that a joke | Feb 07 01:47 |
| utsuwa | any reason? | Feb 07 01:47 |
| txdv | i got banned from mono because there was dos attack *from the techrigter* supporters | Feb 07 01:47 |
| sebsebseb | utsuwa: Mono supporters might be denial of service attacking it! | Feb 07 01:47 |
| txdv | because i was sharing the msame channel | Feb 07 01:47 |
| txdv | now you are bullshiting about the same bullshit | Feb 07 01:48 |
| utsuwa | u guys joking right? | Feb 07 01:48 |
| sebsebseb | utsuwa: sure, but it might be true what I said | Feb 07 01:48 |
| sebsebseb | txdv: the people who come to this channel, as far as I know, none of us, do those attacks :) | Feb 07 01:49 |
| utsuwa | well, recently they were quite aggressive, but DDoSing techrights... well, why not, might be true | Feb 07 01:49 |
| sebsebseb | utsuwa: well it's happended before, techrights being ddosed | Feb 07 01:49 |
| sebsebseb | when it was boycottnovell.com | Feb 07 01:49 |
| utsuwa | i see. too bad hopefully will get some info from shestowitz | Feb 07 01:50 |
| sebsebseb | sites sometimes go down though of course as well | Feb 07 01:50 |
| sebsebseb | server issues and such | Feb 07 01:50 |
| utsuwa | yes, that is true as well | Feb 07 01:50 |
| utsuwa | what was txdv talking about? | Feb 07 01:51 |
| sebsebseb | I don't know | Feb 07 01:52 |
| sebsebseb | sounds like he got banned from the offical Mono channels, because he came here | Feb 07 01:52 |
| sebsebseb | or something | Feb 07 01:52 |
| utsuwa | strange... hey txdv, care to elaborate? | Feb 07 01:52 |
| utsuwa | guess he is gone | Feb 07 01:54 |
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| utsuwa | oh, oiaohm is here. Saw many time commenting on Pogson's website | Feb 07 02:00 |
| txdv | that is the turth | Feb 07 02:00 |
| txdv | I joined this channel, i idled for 3 months and i got banned from the mono channel | Feb 07 02:01 |
| txdv | because someone was floooding? the mono channel | Feb 07 02:01 |
| utsuwa | maybe it is unrelated? | Feb 07 02:01 |
| txdv | i was unbanned | Feb 07 02:02 |
| txdv | but still this kind of action was kinda strange | Feb 07 02:02 |
| txdv | "circumstancial evidence" they called it | Feb 07 02:02 |
| utsuwa | txdv? "someone" doesn't mean from here or techrights supporters | Feb 07 02:02 |
| utsuwa | well if you gor proof you should mail it shestowitz. Would make an intersting article | Feb 07 02:03 |
| txdv | I'm intersted in technical issues, not in social bullshit | Feb 07 02:04 |
| utsuwa | why did u share ur experience with us then? | Feb 07 02:05 |
| sebsebseb | txdv: same here :) | Feb 07 02:05 |
| sebsebseb | txdv: I come here, because its a great place to chat about tech at times, and find out about things and yeah | Feb 07 02:06 |
| sebsebseb | I am not that interested in Mono and all that, in the middle, not really sure what I think when comes to that | Feb 07 02:06 |
| sebsebseb | I mean if it is quite ok really right now, or if it will have issues in the future and all that | Feb 07 02:06 |
| sebsebseb | yes making stuff in Mono is probably hmm in a bad way really, but Banshee and F-Spot are nice apps for example :) | Feb 07 02:07 |
| sebsebseb | altough there are good alternatives to those anyway so :D | Feb 07 02:07 |
| txdv | It is actuallty interisting that all the people who code with mono - dont give a shit about the legal aspects | Feb 07 02:07 |
| txdv | they like mono, they like C# but they dont give a shit about the legal aspects | Feb 07 02:07 |
| sebsebseb | yeah seems so I guess | Feb 07 02:08 |
| sebsebseb | anyway regarding channels, well yeah if in some channels, whilst in another, and certain people know | Feb 07 02:08 |
| sebsebseb | well yes it may be seen as a bad thing | Feb 07 02:08 |
| sebsebseb | I am not going to name the distros, but | Feb 07 02:08 |
| utsuwa | not being aware of dangers down the road might not be a good plan for career... | Feb 07 02:08 |
| sebsebseb | for example one time I was in the channel of one distro | Feb 07 02:08 |
| sebsebseb | and another distro as well | Feb 07 02:08 |
| sebsebseb | distros where certain people from both of them, don't quite like each other, because one of them was started by ex devs of the other | Feb 07 02:09 |
| sebsebseb | anyway one night I was in the channel for one of them, and I got kicked, but also some other people | Feb 07 02:09 |
| sebsebseb | just like that | Feb 07 02:09 |
| sebsebseb | I re joined, and was lke why? and they are like, well I thought you were one of the other distro, swear word here | Feb 07 02:10 |
| sebsebseb | or yeah depending on channel if in another channel, may be seen as a troll by people in the first channel, so yeah hmm | Feb 07 02:10 |
| sebsebseb | utsuwa: indeed | Feb 07 02:10 |
| sebsebseb | anyway yeah sometimes people get sily on IRC and well yeah that's how it is | Feb 07 02:11 |
| txdv | it is silly is a mild expression | Feb 07 02:11 |
| sebsebseb | ok sometimes people, get really idiotic on IRC | Feb 07 02:12 |
| sebsebseb | txdv: I am trying to be a bit careful what I say here at times, because it will end up in a public log | Feb 07 02:12 |
| sebsebseb | so for example I won't swear :) | Feb 07 02:13 |
| sebsebseb | txdv: which you just did here a little while ago | Feb 07 02:13 |
| txdv | o no | Feb 07 02:16 |
| txdv | fuck that | Feb 07 02:16 |
| sebsebseb | txdv: Diablo-D3 would be like that as well :D | Feb 07 02:16 |
| txdv | if I ever run for the maerican presedency, all the people will have a LOG where I am swearing | Feb 07 02:16 |
| txdv | There is a much deaper question to it | Feb 07 02:17 |
| txdv | I mean if there are these words, which are interpreted as *swear* words | Feb 07 02:17 |
| txdv | WHY DO THEY EXIST AT ALL? | Feb 07 02:17 |
| txdv | if they are SOOOO BAAAAD? | Feb 07 02:17 |
| sebsebseb | txdv: since someone came up with the words | Feb 07 02:18 |
| sebsebseb | and people like using them sometimes | Feb 07 02:18 |
| utsuwa | they are "fads" created by social groups to differentiate themselves from the main group. Just like kids create their own words | Feb 07 02:18 |
| sebsebseb | depends on what the word is, and how it is used | Feb 07 02:19 |
| txdv | It is as simple as that - swear words are like other words, they are a concatination of characters in order to represent some meaning | Feb 07 02:19 |
| sebsebseb | for example many of these words can be used to insult | Feb 07 02:19 |
| sebsebseb | ,but | Feb 07 02:19 |
| txdv | and the meaning doesnt matter, because we can asign to every word a different meanin | Feb 07 02:19 |
| sebsebseb | they could also be used to express pshyical or emotional pain and frustration | Feb 07 02:19 |
| txdv | it is just *history which assigned to a word some meaning* | Feb 07 02:20 |
| utsuwa | well, u have to mix concept of "morality"... | Feb 07 02:21 |
| utsuwa | then these are not just words anymore... | Feb 07 02:21 |
| utsuwa | techrights is up! | Feb 07 02:22 |
| sebsebseb | utsuwa: ok | Feb 07 02:25 |
| sebsebseb | anyway yeah techrights well | Feb 07 02:25 |
| sebsebseb | txdv: utsuwa my views | Feb 07 02:25 |
| sebsebseb | my opinions | Feb 07 02:25 |
| sebsebseb | first of all I don't tend to read that much on the blog, because not that keen on how things are written | Feb 07 02:26 |
| sebsebseb | the way he writes | Feb 07 02:26 |
| sebsebseb | Techbytes the audiocast is very good though for their opinions about things that are going on and that | Feb 07 02:26 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz and the two other guys who do that | Feb 07 02:26 |
| sebsebseb | utsuwa: txdv also yeah he writes controversial stuff, stuff that will at times, really get at certain people | Feb 07 02:26 |
| sebsebseb | be they Mono developers or something else | Feb 07 02:26 |
| sebsebseb | so yeah sometimes people will get annoyeed at techrights, really they mean the site, but | Feb 07 02:27 |
| sebsebseb | well people forget that the site is only schestowitz and his opinions, not anyone else invovled with techrights | Feb 07 02:27 |
| sebsebseb | I mean people who come to this channel for example, I haven't seen any blog posts from them about stuff | Feb 07 02:27 |
| sebsebseb | and we all agree and disagree about different things when it comes to tech | Feb 07 02:28 |
| sebsebseb | and yeah the site has a bit of a bad reputation with certain people in the Linux community, but as a result so will this channel, since this channel is for the site really | Feb 07 02:29 |
| sebsebseb | txdv: utsuwa So naturalley if your hanging out in the Mono channel, and your hanging out here as well, and someone knows from the Mono channel, they may think your a techrights troll or something | Feb 07 02:30 |
| utsuwa | @sebsebseb "Linux community", really? | Feb 07 02:30 |
| sebsebseb | or a spy from techrights or something | Feb 07 02:30 |
| sebsebseb | just like if | Feb 07 02:30 |
| sebsebseb | a Mono developer from there started hanging out here a lot, people form here would wonder what's going on | Feb 07 02:30 |
| sebsebseb | utsuwa: the Linux distro community I meant above | Feb 07 02:31 |
| sebsebseb | utsuwa: with the various differnet distros :) | Feb 07 02:31 |
| txdv | sebsebseb: yeah so? | Feb 07 02:31 |
| utsuwa | hmm... but in those situations, they do "troll" quite a lot. judging by the logs | Feb 07 02:31 |
| txdv | i mean really suck a big SO | Feb 07 02:31 |
| sebsebseb | Ubuntu, Fedora, Linux Mint, Mandriva, PC Linux OS, Sabayon, Gentoo, oh loads of distros :) | Feb 07 02:31 |
| txdv | You know how the iraq war started? | Feb 07 02:31 |
| sebsebseb | utsuwa: troll what a lot, this channel? | Feb 07 02:31 |
| txdv | because someone thought that the wrong people hanged out with the wrong country | Feb 07 02:32 |
| sebsebseb | utsuwa: we got trolled not that long ago in fact, well not so much me, it was mainly MinceR who got trolled, because of his silly comments | Feb 07 02:32 |
| sebsebseb | utsuwa: it was actsaully by an Ubuntu Community Member, he came to the channel, and people chatted to him, and then he did a blog post about his expereince | Feb 07 02:32 |
| sebsebseb | I was mainly talked about postively in this blog post :) | Feb 07 02:32 |
| txdv | | BAN-KAI | Feb 07 02:32 |
| txdv | sorry :D | Feb 07 02:33 |
| txdv | some paste action | Feb 07 02:33 |
| sebsebseb | txdv: utsuwa also I didn't belive that loads of trolls read the techrights logs either, untill someone signed up on a site as me! | Feb 07 02:33 |
| sebsebseb | I was able to get my name on that site, but yeah hmm | Feb 07 02:33 |
| txdv | I actually dont think at all that people who give a damn about technical rights, or legal issues which come by with using languages and stuff, will flood a channel | Feb 07 02:34 |
| utsuwa | @txdv wrong analogy with Iraq war | Feb 07 02:34 |
| sebsebseb | txdv: utsuwa I think most people don't think much about legal stuff, unless it personally effects them. | Feb 07 02:36 |
| txdv | utsuwa: why so? | Feb 07 02:36 |
| utsuwa | its not why it started... | Feb 07 02:36 |
| txdv | Can you enlight me, why it started? | Feb 07 02:36 |
| utsuwa | well, why look for people in the place where you know they aren't? | Feb 07 02:37 |
| txdv | Yeah | Feb 07 02:39 |
| txdv | thats why i mean | Feb 07 02:39 |
| utsuwa | and they were not looking for them anyway. it was wmd-mantra | Feb 07 02:40 |
| txdv | the american media mislead the american people in order to justify a war | Feb 07 02:40 |
| utsuwa | oil, oil, oil... | Feb 07 02:41 |
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| txdv | Yeah, oil is one of the reasons why they stared *looking for wmds* in iraq | Feb 07 02:43 |
| txdv | its a known fact that america tries to spread *demoracry* in countries which have oil | Feb 07 02:44 |
| utsuwa | and some made good profits on employing Bradley in Iraq... | Feb 07 02:44 |
| utsuwa | and humvees that are no land-mind proof, bulletproof vests that are joke against ak rifles | Feb 07 02:46 |
| utsuwa | land-mine | Feb 07 02:46 |
| txdv | we live in a world which is driven by profit | Feb 07 02:47 |
| utsuwa | capitalist machine in full-gear | Feb 07 02:47 |
| txdv | the capitalist machine is not bad idea, but you just cant make it fit to everything | Feb 07 02:48 |
| utsuwa | its bad if it is unchecked | Feb 07 02:48 |
| txdv | yeah, america set the best example of unchecked economics, didnt it | Feb 07 02:49 |
| utsuwa | true | Feb 07 02:49 |
| utsuwa | i'm not sure they will get back on feet anymore | Feb 07 02:49 |
| txdv | THEY? | Feb 07 02:53 |
| utsuwa | USA | Feb 07 02:54 |
| txdv | You do know that the wesstern culture is influenced by america | Feb 07 02:54 |
| txdv | so where do you come from? | Feb 07 02:54 |
| utsuwa | so? | Feb 07 02:54 |
| utsuwa | same western culute | Feb 07 02:58 |
| utsuwa | culture | Feb 07 02:58 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | Hi all, is there anyone up across the pond yet? | Feb 07 04:20 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | folks here know that I always have something to discuss when I come here | Feb 07 04:21 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | this time is not so much different | Feb 07 04:22 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | except this time no links | Feb 07 04:22 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | only thoughts | Feb 07 04:22 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | its not about Novell, which is no longer as important, lets face it, Novell is like the sun setting. Novell sold out, and does not matter on so many fronts now. Even Suse and Opensuse will continue to decline while hitched to the Novel/Attachmate/M$shill star. | Feb 07 04:24 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Novell, does not matter. | Feb 07 04:25 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | anymore | Feb 07 04:25 |
| sebsebseb | Chips_B_Malroy: some of us not even gone to bed yet :D | Feb 07 04:25 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | so what does matter? | Feb 07 04:25 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Hi sebsebseb | Feb 07 04:25 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | The next captive company of M$ is usually what matters | Feb 07 04:26 |
| sebsebseb | Chips_B_Malroy: OpenSuse might fork or something | Feb 07 04:26 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | OpenSuse does not matter | Feb 07 04:26 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | forget Novell/Suse, its history now | Feb 07 04:26 |
| sebsebseb | OpenSuse is still being developed | Feb 07 04:26 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | they are about to travel down the long decline of distrowatch ratings | Feb 07 04:27 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | they simply do not matter | Feb 07 04:27 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | unless they fork in a good way of course, as you suggested | Feb 07 04:28 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | "<sebsebseb> OpenSuse is still being developed" yes, of course, but how much of that is done with M$ money? Only for the purpose of support and corrupting GNU? | Feb 07 04:29 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Think Mono | Feb 07 04:29 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | and their bribe from MicroSoft | Feb 07 04:30 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | Micro$oft is like the Greeks bearing gifts to the Trojans. Beware! And Novell fell for it. | Feb 07 04:31 |
| sebsebseb | Chips_B_Malroy: uhmm most computer users fall for Microsoft's tricks | Feb 07 04:32 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | First (MS) gives money with an agreement (non disclosure in writting but private) | Feb 07 04:32 |
| sebsebseb | hence why there is so much Microsoft vender lock in, when it comes to computers | Feb 07 04:32 |
| sebsebseb | from Educational Establishments to work places to home users and yeah | Feb 07 04:33 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | yes, MS knows all the 'tricks' and loopholes | Feb 07 04:33 |
| sebsebseb | oh and Apple vender lock in, isn't much better either really | Feb 07 04:33 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | but lets skip Novell the hasbeen for now and move onto the future | Feb 07 04:33 |
| sebsebseb | the future | Feb 07 04:34 |
| sebsebseb | http://gnome3.org :) | Feb 07 04:34 |
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| sebsebseb | Chips_B_Malroy: Canonical's Unity as an option for Fedora in the main repos it seems probably :D | Feb 07 04:34 |
| sebsebseb | and yep for OpenSuse as well | Feb 07 04:34 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | M$ has been working hard to take over and control many companies that could have been a problem or competition to them | Feb 07 04:34 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | how about YAHOO? | Feb 07 04:35 |
| sebsebseb | Chips_B_Malroy: oh and well of course this :) http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=iso_1_specifications#expected_milestones | Feb 07 04:35 |
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| sebsebseb | Chips_B_Malroy: oh and Yahoo will soon properly kill Altavista | Feb 07 04:35 |
| sebsebseb | maybe it already happended, didn't go to Altavista really recently | Feb 07 04:35 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | M$ made a deal too with them | Feb 07 04:35 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | they bought into them | Feb 07 04:35 |
| oiaohm | Really there is a big issue. | Feb 07 04:35 |
| sebsebseb | Chips_B_Malroy: and Rupert Murdoch is getting much more control, in fact as a result of that we lost two good channels this year | Feb 07 04:35 |
| oiaohm | Accountancy software for small business. | Feb 07 04:35 |
| oiaohm | Where is it for open source platforms. | Feb 07 04:36 |
| sebsebseb | Chips_B_Malroy: TV channels | Feb 07 04:36 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | took them over without buying them really | Feb 07 04:36 |
| oiaohm | sebsebseb: the users who fall for MS tricks still by android. | Feb 07 04:37 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Netflix and Blockbuster, both the same as Yahoo | Feb 07 04:37 |
| sebsebseb | oiaohm: Android is from Google not Microsoft | Feb 07 04:37 |
| sebsebseb | Chips_B_Malroy: and Facebook and Twitter will remain rather popular for quite a long time I expect :( instead of nice open alterantives :( yeah that's the future we got | Feb 07 04:38 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | forget Google, its not going M$, its the best thing going for free in the land of corporate | Feb 07 04:38 |
| oiaohm | sebsebseb: the point you miss. Is not that people fall for MS tricks. But why they are using the platform. | Feb 07 04:38 |
| sebsebseb | and then the useual if we want | Feb 07 04:39 |
| sebsebseb | inflation | Feb 07 04:39 |
| sebsebseb | prices going up for stuff | Feb 07 04:39 |
| oiaohm | Android proved something. | Feb 07 04:39 |
| sebsebseb | and if the global warming stuff is true, well the world may get some quite serious issues in like 2020 or 2050 | Feb 07 04:39 |
| sebsebseb | oiaohm: they use the platform, because they get a good deal | Feb 07 04:39 |
| sebsebseb | oiaohm: or the vender lock in | Feb 07 04:39 |
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| oiaohm | Android is basically killing the closed source OS's. | Feb 07 04:39 |
| sebsebseb | it was pre installed | Feb 07 04:39 |
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| oiaohm | On mobile phones. | Feb 07 04:40 |
| oiaohm | Because for a mobile phone it does more than what users need. | Feb 07 04:40 |
| sebsebseb | oiaohm: Android doesn't contribute to Desktop LInux | Feb 07 04:40 |
| oiaohm | sebsebseb: really it has contributed some things to Desktop Linux. | Feb 07 04:41 |
| sebsebseb | Chips_B_Malroy: oh and 3D TV probably without glasses coming, without issues for the yes | Feb 07 04:41 |
| sebsebseb | Chips_B_Malroy: proper electrical cars as well | Feb 07 04:41 |
| oiaohm | Like more focus on power usage and performance. sebsebseb | Feb 07 04:41 |
| sebsebseb | Chips_B_Malroy: probably much more touch sreen devices | Feb 07 04:41 |
| sebsebseb | Chips_B_Malroy: yep that's the future! | Feb 07 04:41 |
| oiaohm | sebsebseb: some time ask around what people use Windows for. | Feb 07 04:41 |
| sebsebseb | without issues for the yes? no that was meant to say eyes above | Feb 07 04:42 |
| oiaohm | then see if there is anything important that is not covered. | Feb 07 04:42 |
| sebsebseb | Chips_B_Malroy: Microsoft has many good competitors now | Feb 07 04:42 |
| sebsebseb | Chips_B_Malroy: times are changing slowly :D | Feb 07 04:42 |
| oiaohm | The basic one I find here. is a Lot of small businesses here are using windows becuase they don't have accountancy for Linux. | Feb 07 04:42 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | jThe point is to look at what is coming, Roy predicted a while back. I said at that time he probably 60% correct. Elop and Nokia going to WP7. There is not point for Nokia to move to WP7 which is a dismal failure except that M$ now has control of them from a monetary way. It (M$) has become a corporate raider, and really has been a long time ago. | Feb 07 04:42 |
| oiaohm | Remember some small businesses become large. | Feb 07 04:42 |
| sebsebseb | oiaohm: accountancy ? | Feb 07 04:42 |
| sebsebseb | oiaohm: meaning? | Feb 07 04:43 |
| *sebsebseb in a way would rather be sleeping then in one of these convos tonight | Feb 07 04:43 | |
| Chips_B_Malroy | its about the money | Feb 07 04:43 |
| oiaohm | sebsebseb: Books tracking there income sales and doing tax requirements. sebsebseb | Feb 07 04:43 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | follow the money | Feb 07 04:43 |
| oiaohm | Basically if the desktop OS cannot track the businesses money a business cannot use it. | Feb 07 04:43 |
| sebsebseb | thing is I slept loads earlier, so not going to bed just yet | Feb 07 04:43 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | M$ and its founders have lots of it | Feb 07 04:43 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | they play the system | Feb 07 04:44 |
| oiaohm | Its the one advantage MS had over everyone else when they started. sebsebseb | Feb 07 04:44 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | like a big chess or poker table | Feb 07 04:44 |
| oiaohm | Everyone forgets bill gates is an accountant. | Feb 07 04:44 |
| sebsebseb | not everything Microsoft does is bad guys! | Feb 07 04:44 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | he is also a poker player | Feb 07 04:44 |
| oiaohm | And some of MS early software was todo small businesses books. sebsebseb | Feb 07 04:44 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | most of what MS does is bad | Feb 07 04:45 |
| oiaohm | Yes Linux Desktop has been forgeting a basic. | Feb 07 04:45 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | but not all | Feb 07 04:45 |
| sebsebseb | most of what Chips_B_Malroy does is bad :D | Feb 07 04:45 |
| sebsebseb | ,but not all of it | Feb 07 04:45 |
| sebsebseb | :) | Feb 07 04:45 |
| oiaohm | Then we complain that the Linux desktop does not take off. | Feb 07 04:45 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | look again at Nokia | Feb 07 04:45 |
| oiaohm | Yes money is the key to most things. | Feb 07 04:45 |
| sebsebseb | oiaohm: i'll tell you why it doesn't take off and go properly main streame right now | Feb 07 04:45 |
| sebsebseb | oiaohm: 1. it's not meant to replace Windows for most stuff anyway | Feb 07 04:46 |
| sebsebseb | 2. people are locked into commerical games and what not | Feb 07 04:46 |
| sebsebseb | 3. people tend to want to use what they are used to | Feb 07 04:46 |
| oiaohm | Most of my customers don't care about games. | Feb 07 04:46 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | MS last chance to try to throw massive money at the cellphone market and show they own it | Feb 07 04:46 |
| sebsebseb | 4. uhmm really do we have a great Desktop Linux desktop? Gnome? KDE? XFCE? LXDE? Enlightment? | Feb 07 04:46 |
| sebsebseb | I am not so sure to be honest | Feb 07 04:46 |
| oiaohm | For the simple reason xbox and ps3 makes the fell better that no one is cheating. | Feb 07 04:46 |
| sebsebseb | what is so great about those, compared to WIndows or Mac OS X really? | Feb 07 04:46 |
| sebsebseb | plus they are all quite similar really | Feb 07 04:46 |
| sebsebseb | and yeah people care about looks | Feb 07 04:47 |
| sebsebseb | what makes people go wow, when they see a Linux distro? | Feb 07 04:47 |
| sebsebseb | Compiz? uh yeah maybe for younger people, but then a lot of people get bored of that anyway | Feb 07 04:47 |
| sebsebseb | anyway I think that's good that Gnome Shell stable is coming and Unity re done with Compiz | Feb 07 04:47 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | prediction: MS and Nokia if they team up, will still be massive failure and Google Android will kill them in the ARM Smartphone market | Feb 07 04:47 |
| oiaohm | Remember most of my clientel is business. sebsebseb | Feb 07 04:47 |
| sebsebseb | two reasoanbly good interfaces that can be choosen from | Feb 07 04:47 |
| sebsebseb | oiaohm: as for business | Feb 07 04:47 |
| Ender2070 | thats retarded | Feb 07 04:47 |
| sebsebseb | oiaohm: it doesn't hit off with them Desktop Linux | Feb 07 04:47 |
| oiaohm | Linux interface issues don't bother then. | Feb 07 04:47 |
| sebsebseb | ,because they are used to Windows | Feb 07 04:47 |
| sebsebseb | Ender2070: what is? | Feb 07 04:47 |
| oiaohm | Not complete true sebsebseb | Feb 07 04:48 |
| Ender2070 | nokia and ms teaming up | Feb 07 04:48 |
| sebsebseb | they can go to Microsoft if t hey have a problem | Feb 07 04:48 |
| oiaohm | More and more of mine are using rdp more and more to run windows applications. | Feb 07 04:48 |
| sebsebseb | they can get discounts with Microsoft if they play the game right as well | Feb 07 04:48 |
| oiaohm | Yes Linux on the desktop for them. | Feb 07 04:48 |
| sebsebseb | and most of their IT support people, have been locked into Windows for a long time, same thing for the users | Feb 07 04:48 |
| sebsebseb | so yeah | Feb 07 04:48 |
| sebsebseb | people use Windows, because it's what known | Feb 07 04:48 |
| oiaohm | Big reason they cannot get rid of windows in most cases is there accountancy software. | Feb 07 04:48 |
| sebsebseb | what they think is safe, to not confuse users | Feb 07 04:48 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | A Nokia Microsoft pairing similar to the MS Yahoo teaming will be even more disruptive to MS 'partners' | Feb 07 04:48 |
| Ender2070 | sebsebseb - no its because its easy | Feb 07 04:48 |
| oiaohm | Running in wine does not cut it. | Feb 07 04:48 |
| sebsebseb | also they may use it, because they have software that relys on it | Feb 07 04:49 |
| oiaohm | Have you seen Linux skinned like windows? sebsebseb | Feb 07 04:49 |
| sebsebseb | oiaohm: yes | Feb 07 04:49 |
| sebsebseb | on sites | Feb 07 04:49 |
| oiaohm | Do users really who only have limited accounts know the difference. | Feb 07 04:49 |
| sebsebseb | Linux distros are a Unix alternative | Feb 07 04:49 |
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| sebsebseb | tht are meant to spread freesoftware/opensource | Feb 07 04:49 |
| sebsebseb | so yeah Ubuntu is doing it wrong now really | Feb 07 04:49 |
| oiaohm | Between a skinned linux and a windows desktop in front of them. | Feb 07 04:49 |
| sebsebseb | a lot of the time | Feb 07 04:49 |
| sebsebseb | ,but on the other hand, they are doing stuff, that will make certain Windows users go over to a Linux distro | Feb 07 04:49 |
| oiaohm | Answer nop. | Feb 07 04:50 |
| Ender2070 | most users don't even know what an IP address is | Feb 07 04:50 |
| sebsebseb | however LInux Mint do that much better really :) | Feb 07 04:50 |
| oiaohm | I have even got away with skinned like windows 2000 | Feb 07 04:50 |
| Ender2070 | you expect them to figure anything out on Linux | Feb 07 04:50 |
| oiaohm | The biggest reason users question is if it does not look like something they have seen before. | Feb 07 04:50 |
| sebsebseb | Ender2070: take my older brother for example, he'll use Linux distros | Feb 07 04:50 |
| sebsebseb | Ender2070: as long as he can get on Firefox and such | Feb 07 04:50 |
| sebsebseb | he didn't want to install himself though, but yeah | Feb 07 04:50 |
| Ender2070 | hes not a secretary whos used to doing things the same way for 5 years straight | Feb 07 04:51 |
| Ender2070 | theres reality | Feb 07 04:51 |
| sebsebseb | Ender2070: people tend to use what they are given when comes to computer, and yep most of the time that's Windows | Feb 07 04:51 |
| sebsebseb | at the moment | Feb 07 04:51 |
| Ender2070 | exactly | Feb 07 04:51 |
| oiaohm | 3 big things for me sebsebseb are simple. | Feb 07 04:51 |
| oiaohm | 1 accountancy software. | Feb 07 04:51 |
| Ender2070 | why would they care if the source code to their program is available as long as it works? | Feb 07 04:51 |
| oiaohm | Simple accountancy software. | Feb 07 04:51 |
| Ender2070 | users aren't geeks like us | Feb 07 04:51 |
| sebsebseb | Ender2070: yep most don't really understand why that matters | Feb 07 04:51 |
| sebsebseb | Ender2070: they are just consumers nothing more | Feb 07 04:51 |
| sebsebseb | it's a tool for a task and that's it | Feb 07 04:52 |
| oiaohm | Most open source accountany software falls into unfriendly or incompadible with a lot of tax systems world wide. | Feb 07 04:52 |
| Ender2070 | open source is just a superior development methodology | Feb 07 04:52 |
| sebsebseb | Ender2070: it's also superiror opensoruce and free software FLOSS | Feb 07 04:52 |
| Ender2070 | expecting users to give a shit is like expecting car drivers to know their way around the engine of a car | Feb 07 04:52 |
| sebsebseb | Ender2070: it's also superior for people like us, who know why it is | Feb 07 04:52 |
| oiaohm | 2 stupid policies requiring a real-time anti-virus installed on all machines and the like. sebsebseb | Feb 07 04:52 |
| sebsebseb | even if we aren't developers | Feb 07 04:52 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | The big reason Linux has not 'made it' is inertia. People simply do not want to learn anything. And the MS shills keep saying Linux is hard, which is a complete lie as the more simple for newbies distro's are easier to use than windows. | Feb 07 04:52 |
| sebsebseb | Ender2070: even as a user, freedoms are gained not just a developer | Feb 07 04:52 |
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| sebsebseb | Chips_B_Malroy: Gnome 2 looks like Mac OS X | Feb 07 04:53 |
| Ender2070 | i don't see how their choice of kernel has any impact whatsoever on a non-geeks life | Feb 07 04:53 |
| sebsebseb | Chips_B_Malroy: KDE looks like Windows, but is wa more geekey to customise | Feb 07 04:53 |
| sebsebseb | so yeah come on Gnone Shell and Unity, at least now, we will have something differnet :) | Feb 07 04:53 |
| oiaohm | Chips_B_Malroy: Do me a simple one try to find a accounacy package as simple as myob for Linux for most countries( Yes I have made it simple Myob is not that simple) | Feb 07 04:53 |
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| sebsebseb | hi jono | Feb 07 04:54 |
| jono | hey sebsebseb | Feb 07 04:54 |
| Ender2070 | talking about free software is mostly preaching to the choir of geeks and developers | Feb 07 04:54 |
| oiaohm | I have a lot of small business if they could get accountancy packages simple to use for Linux they would drop windows in under 24 hours. | Feb 07 04:54 |
| sebsebseb | Ender2070: also another reason, Desktop Linux hasn't made it so far, would be since there hasn't really been a proper company behind one, people trust companies | Feb 07 04:54 |
| Ender2070 | open standards != free software or floss | Feb 07 04:54 |
| oiaohm | Since viruses cost. | Feb 07 04:54 |
| sebsebseb | Ender2070: people trust something to be good, if money is invovled some how, and they know it | Feb 07 04:54 |
| oiaohm | Basically we don't need to bother being anti MS. | Feb 07 04:54 |
| Ender2070 | redhat is making a lot of money from people who trust it as a company | Feb 07 04:55 |
| oiaohm | We have to bother about meating the requirements of users. | Feb 07 04:55 |
| Ender2070 | exactly oiaohm | Feb 07 04:55 |
| oiaohm | Do that Linux could take off on the desktop a lot faster than a lot guess. | Feb 07 04:55 |
| sebsebseb | oiaohm: Ender2070 Chips_B_Malroy also people who are anti Microsoft, can put people off from using a Linux distro | Feb 07 04:55 |
| oiaohm | People might stay on windows but a few infections and costs latter. | Feb 07 04:55 |
| Ender2070 | oiaohm - for example, I require wifi on my netbook and its only possible using a non-free method | Feb 07 04:55 |
| Ender2070 | do I burn the netbook as heresy | Feb 07 04:56 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | "<oiaohm> Chips_B_Malroy: Do me a simple one try to find a accounacy package as simple as myob for Linux for most countries( Yes I have made it simple Myob is not that simple)" Sorry, but I not going to play that game. Not that many users use accountant type programs. Most users want to surf, write, and email. | Feb 07 04:56 |
| oiaohm | Chips_B_Malroy: Small businesses. | Feb 07 04:56 |
| Ender2070 | some people will preach at me saying I should've gotten something else (that didnt meet my requirements) | Feb 07 04:56 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | what I get from some people is they do not want to learn. | Feb 07 04:56 |
| sebsebseb | jono: Do you think Canonical might go main streame? You joined a chat, where people are going on about why Desktop Linux hasn't hit off properly yet. | Feb 07 04:56 |
| oiaohm | You are talking about half the users out there. In small business class. Chips_B_Malroy | Feb 07 04:56 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | and to them, I say suffer with MS | Feb 07 04:56 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | and all its malware problems | Feb 07 04:57 |
| oiaohm | 1 laptop or 1 pc for doing books and everything else. | Feb 07 04:57 |
| Ender2070 | im sure they are suffering not spending a weekend fighting with wifi | Feb 07 04:57 |
| oiaohm | And those costs of malware are really high on them. | Feb 07 04:57 |
| oiaohm | Basically is a really really ripe market. | Feb 07 04:57 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | not only that | Feb 07 04:57 |
| Ender2070 | theres a thing about malware | Feb 07 04:57 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | but all the paid program in windows systems that expire every year | Feb 07 04:57 |
| Ender2070 | its easy to prevent | Feb 07 04:57 |
| Ender2070 | just dont be an idiot | Feb 07 04:57 |
| oiaohm | Chips_B_Malroy: yes and they really don't have the money to be upgrading all the time either. | Feb 07 04:58 |
| Ender2070 | keep up to date, don't run porn sites in IE, and don't download warez | Feb 07 04:58 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | like antivirus that expires and leaves windows computers at risk | Feb 07 04:58 |
| Ender2070 | easy | Feb 07 04:58 |
| sebsebseb | I think apps and user interface is what matters, most when it comes to average users and an OS | Feb 07 04:58 |
| abeNd-org | ms sec ess are free for personal use, & 10 user or less small biz | Feb 07 04:58 |
| sebsebseb | they want to be able to use the apps they want to use in a nice user interface :) | Feb 07 04:58 |
| oiaohm | small business meeting the requirements of them will get Linux into desktop very quickly. | Feb 07 04:58 |
| sebsebseb | the backend, uhmm most people don't really care about that | Feb 07 04:58 |
| oiaohm | PC and gaming is not that much any more. | Feb 07 04:58 |
| sebsebseb | computer users | Feb 07 04:58 |
| abeNd-org | setup opendns as well, lock webaccess down | Feb 07 04:58 |
| sebsebseb | as long as they can run the programs they want to run | Feb 07 04:58 |
| oiaohm | consoles take a large section of the gaming market these days. | Feb 07 04:59 |
| Ender2070 | theres plenty you can do to lock down windows | Feb 07 04:59 |
| abeNd-org | yes, dont run local admin for one, that is a great help | Feb 07 04:59 |
| Ender2070 | you can even require that all the executables it runs are signed by a certificate authority | Feb 07 04:59 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | but that requires learing | Feb 07 04:59 |
| oiaohm | Also studies of small businesses normally set what schools use in a lot of countries. | Feb 07 04:59 |
| abeNd-org | then gpo the heck out of it | Feb 07 04:59 |
| sebsebseb | Ender2070: also yeah the proper Windows technitions will know Windows securit tricks and that, and well doing a Linux distro would mean learning new stuff | Feb 07 04:59 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | learning is the hard part | Feb 07 04:59 |
| sebsebseb | Ender2070: people get stuck in their ways, what they know, and don't tend to like change, many of them | Feb 07 04:59 |
| abeNd-org | chips wrong | Feb 07 05:00 |
| abeNd-org | willingness to learn is the hardest part | Feb 07 05:00 |
| Ender2070 | sebsebseb - I know both and I don't have to FUD to prove Linux is better | Feb 07 05:00 |
| oiaohm | Basically you want to change the desktop from windows to Linux. Small business is soft target and the most important target to take. | Feb 07 05:00 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | I could run windows and be mostly secure | Feb 07 05:00 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | but it would be very painful | Feb 07 05:00 |
| sebsebseb | Ender2070: better is opinion, but sure for most computer users, who actsaully know something more proper about computers, yeah Linux distros would be better :) | Feb 07 05:00 |
| sebsebseb | Chips_B_Malroy: lol | Feb 07 05:01 |
| sebsebseb | Chips_B_Malroy: uhmm | Feb 07 05:01 |
| Ender2070 | sebsebseb - I argue an idiot could break Linux just as easy | Feb 07 05:01 |
| sebsebseb | Chips_B_Malroy: sandbox? | Feb 07 05:01 |
| sebsebseb | Chips_B_Malroy: or just regular backups of whole system? | Feb 07 05:01 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | many many tricks | Feb 07 05:01 |
| Ender2070 | remember why Ubuntu disabled 'rm -rf /' | Feb 07 05:01 |
| oiaohm | Ender2070: Really try that in btrfs with snapshots. Ender2070 | Feb 07 05:01 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | not worth the effort | Feb 07 05:01 |
| abeNd-org | Ender2070: they did? thats no fun! | Feb 07 05:01 |
| sebsebseb | Ender2070: uh Ubuntu disabled it? | Feb 07 05:01 |
| Ender2070 | sebsebseb - try it as root | Feb 07 05:01 |
| sebsebseb | Ender2070: lol no | Feb 07 05:01 |
| sebsebseb | Ender2070: maybe in a vm though | Feb 07 05:01 |
| sebsebseb | anyway I thought something else was needed as well for that command to work properly | Feb 07 05:02 |
| oiaohm | Fedora is heading down the path that something like rm -rf / will be just reversable by going back to a prior snapshot. Ender2070 | Feb 07 05:02 |
| sebsebseb | anyway yeah Ubuntu tries to be more idiots profe, hence sudo, no root account | Feb 07 05:02 |
| *abeNd-org has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | Feb 07 05:02 | |
| sebsebseb | for example | Feb 07 05:02 |
| Ender2070 | this guy got pissed for example | Feb 07 05:02 |
| Ender2070 | http://kmandla.wordpress.com/2007/12/06/its-true-sudo-rm-rf-kills-ubuntu-a-bug-report/ | Feb 07 05:02 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: It’s true: sudo rm -rf kills Ubuntu; a bug report « Motho ke motho ka botho .::. Size~: 91.27 KB | Feb 07 05:02 |
| Ender2070 | because IT WORKED | Feb 07 05:02 |
| Ender2070 | lol | Feb 07 05:03 |
| Ender2070 | he filed a bug report over it | Feb 07 05:03 |
| oiaohm | Ender2070: it should be reversable | Feb 07 05:03 |
| sebsebseb | well there are people who give that command out | Feb 07 05:03 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | my friends, Nokia is worth looking at as the next takeover for MS in order to plug the hole in the dyke in moble cellphones. It will be even a bigger failure for MS and especially Nokia than Yahoo. | Feb 07 05:03 |
| sebsebseb | for a laugh | Feb 07 05:03 |
| oiaohm | If lvm snapshots or btrfs snapshots had been used. Ender2070 | Feb 07 05:03 |
| sebsebseb | and sometimes to Ubuntu newbies as well | Feb 07 05:03 |
| oiaohm | Really Ubuntu love taking the lazy way out. | Feb 07 05:03 |
| oiaohm | And not implement what they should. | Feb 07 05:03 |
| sebsebseb | oiaohm: such as? | Feb 07 05:03 |
| Ender2070 | its the same thing as the old "Deltree C:\*.*" | Feb 07 05:03 |
| sebsebseb | Ender2070: yeah I remember that one | Feb 07 05:04 |
| sebsebseb | Deltree | Feb 07 05:04 |
| Ender2070 | win98 would let you, iirc | Feb 07 05:04 |
| oiaohm | sebsebseb: The example Ender2070 gave of disabling rm -rf / as a way to fix user from running that. | Feb 07 05:04 |
| sebsebseb | oiaohm: Ubuntu try to protect newbies, the IRC support channels the offical ones as well | Feb 07 05:04 |
| Ender2070 | oiaohm - what if I want to do that? | Feb 07 05:04 |
| sebsebseb | oiaohm: hence why they don't want people to do pm support for example, even though that can be way more useful for someone | Feb 07 05:04 |
| oiaohm | sebsebseb: Would not snapshot the os protect the newbies better sebsebseb | Feb 07 05:04 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] new blog post: !StopUBB !UBB is Bad: http://ur1.ca/35144 | Feb 07 05:04 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: UBB is Bad « Stop Usage Based Billing .::. Size~: 63.84 KB | Feb 07 05:05 |
| oiaohm | Ie do something wrong go back to prior snapshot | Feb 07 05:05 |
| sebsebseb | oiaohm: btrfs snapshots will be good as well yeah | Feb 07 05:05 |
| oiaohm | So no foul | Feb 07 05:05 |
| sebsebseb | oiaohm: should get rid of most support issues for distros | Feb 07 05:05 |
| Ender2070 | LOL Aurora Ruse Worm | Feb 07 05:05 |
| sebsebseb | Ender2070: Auroa? | Feb 07 05:05 |
| Ender2070 | UBB Is Bad mmmmmkay | Feb 07 05:05 |
| Ender2070 | lol | Feb 07 05:05 |
| sebsebseb | Ender2070: oh I didn't go on the link | Feb 07 05:05 |
| sebsebseb | ,but yeah USB is fine :) | Feb 07 05:05 |
| oiaohm | Remember there is lvm snapshots that can be used on any filesystem to provied liek btrfs snapshots do. sebsebseb | Feb 07 05:05 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Windows Phone 7 is now the next in the series of KIN, so Ballmer must secure his job by doing a 'Yahoo' and controlling Nokia to use WP7. The big question is wheither Nokia will allow both Android and WP7 on both of its phone? | Feb 07 05:05 |
| sebsebseb | Ender2070: anyway as far as I know she's an Ubuntu user by the way | Feb 07 05:05 |
| oiaohm | sebsebseb: ie snapshots should be in newbie friendly OS. | Feb 07 05:06 |
| Ender2070 | sounds like it | Feb 07 05:06 |
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| Ender2070 | as far as I know, the harper government IS blocking UBB | Feb 07 05:06 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | If the Ballmer guys failes on WP7, he is out' | Feb 07 05:06 |
| sebsebseb | Ender2070: yeah I read something about how, if it wasn't for Ubuntu, she woudn't be using a Linux distro, or whatever | Feb 07 05:06 |
| oiaohm | Because they are newbies and we can bet they will stuff it. | Feb 07 05:06 |
| sebsebseb | Ender2070: loads of people think this, which isn't true | Feb 07 05:06 |
| sebsebseb | Mandriva is quite user friendly for example | Feb 07 05:06 |
| sebsebseb | and Mandrake was around before Ubuntu and all that | Feb 07 05:06 |
| oiaohm | Nokia allowing android would make sence. | Feb 07 05:07 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | yes | Feb 07 05:07 |
| sebsebseb | if Ubuntu hadn't come along, I think a lot of Ubuntu users would have been using another distro | Feb 07 05:07 |
| Ender2070 | yeah but ubuntu came onto the scene as free as in beer | Feb 07 05:07 |
| oiaohm | Because android and meego can share development resources. | Feb 07 05:07 |
| sebsebseb | however Ubuntu came onto the scene with a load of hype | Feb 07 05:07 |
| sebsebseb | since it made Debian user friendly | Feb 07 05:07 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | but its not about sence. its about money, and what it controls | Feb 07 05:07 |
| sebsebseb | plus there was money behind it | Feb 07 05:07 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | and MS controls with money | Feb 07 05:07 |
| oiaohm | Nokia would make sence to have android for low end phones. | Feb 07 05:07 |
| oiaohm | and meego for upper more functional units. | Feb 07 05:08 |
| sebsebseb | some people use Ubuntu, because it has money behind it, that being one of their main reasons, there was some indian or whatever on IRC for example who told me that basicalely | Feb 07 05:08 |
| Ender2070 | Ubuntu was like 'we're not charging like some people (readhat, mandrake), it'll be free forever!!!111!11 and i'm MARK SHUTTLEWORTH! SUPER HERO SPACE TOURIST MILLIONARE!" | Feb 07 05:08 |
| sebsebseb | that they used it, because Ubuntu ahs money behind it | Feb 07 05:08 |
| Ender2070 | lol | Feb 07 05:08 |
| sebsebseb | and for ages, the First South African in space thing yeah | Feb 07 05:08 |
| Ender2070 | redhat has more money behind it | Feb 07 05:08 |
| Ender2070 | logic fails | Feb 07 05:08 |
| sebsebseb | was used in the articles about Ubuntu | Feb 07 05:08 |
| oiaohm | Redhat is still growing | Feb 07 05:08 |
| Ender2070 | redhat is still bigger | Feb 07 05:09 |
| oiaohm | We need another money criss. | Feb 07 05:09 |
| oiaohm | Evertime there is a money criss redhat grows like the bat out of hell. | Feb 07 05:09 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | logic has been twisted by money, MS money. Therefore, its likely that Nokia phone, the upper end ones, will run a failed MS system WP7 instead of Android. | Feb 07 05:09 |
| Ender2070 | during the recession, unix lost to redhat | Feb 07 05:09 |
| sebsebseb | ok I coudn't use Fedora Core 2 or 4 online at the time on the computer I had since... | Feb 07 05:09 |
| sebsebseb | ,but | Feb 07 05:09 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | As Roy said | Feb 07 05:09 |
| sebsebseb | Fedora Core 2 my first distro | Feb 07 05:09 |
| sebsebseb | the one I just installed | Feb 07 05:09 |
| sebsebseb | hadn't tried a Linux distro at all before, and yeah it worked good for me | Feb 07 05:09 |
| Ender2070 | [00:08] <Chips_B_Malroy> logic has been twisted by money, MS money. Therefore, its likely that Nokia phone, the upper end ones, will run a failed MS system WP7 instead of Android. | Feb 07 05:09 |
| Ender2070 | SILLY | Feb 07 05:09 |
| sebsebseb | except Grub messing up and same for FC4 | Feb 07 05:09 |
| sebsebseb | and yeah I coudn't go online since.. | Feb 07 05:10 |
| Ender2070 | That's one of Roy's conspiracy theories | Feb 07 05:10 |
| oiaohm | Fedora lost it way for a while. | Feb 07 05:10 |
| Ender2070 | Nokia has Qt, Maemo, Symbian, etc | Feb 07 05:10 |
| sebsebseb | the idea that other distros aren't that user friendly, really isn't true, for many of them, since like 2004 I guess | Feb 07 05:10 |
| Ender2070 | Meego I mean | Feb 07 05:10 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | yes, and its coming to conclusion isnt it? | Feb 07 05:10 |
| oiaohm | Symbian Nokia is killing off. | Feb 07 05:10 |
| sebsebseb | oiaohm: Fedora lost its way? | Feb 07 05:10 |
| oiaohm | Around fedora core 5. sebsebseb | Feb 07 05:10 |
| sebsebseb | oh I wasn't using it then | Feb 07 05:11 |
| sebsebseb | since Ubuntu | Feb 07 05:11 |
| oiaohm | The thing was nasty. | Feb 07 05:11 |
| Ender2070 | Nokia would have to be retarded to throw away all their free software to start paying licensing to some other company | Feb 07 05:11 |
| Ender2070 | Plus their shareholders might not like it either | Feb 07 05:11 |
| oiaohm | Then fedora decided that working with upstream was wise then fedora slowly become a good OS. sebsebseb | Feb 07 05:11 |
| sebsebseb | Ubuntu has been sucky since 9.04 realy, but things will get intersting soon since Unity I think | Feb 07 05:11 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | WP7 is not selling, and yet Elop and Nokia might be jumping on the failed bandwagon? Why? Its only about the monopolist sending its money and buying share. | Feb 07 05:12 |
| Ender2070 | [00:11] <Chips_B_Malroy> WP7 is not selling, and yet Elop and Nokia might be jumping on the failed bandwagon? Why? Its only about the monopolist sending its money and buying share. | Feb 07 05:12 |
| Ender2070 | they aren't | Feb 07 05:12 |
| oiaohm | sebsebseb: Now Ubuntu is losing the same was as fedora did. History of distributions repeat and repeat. | Feb 07 05:12 |
| Ender2070 | cite your evidence | Feb 07 05:12 |
| sebsebseb | oiaohm: what happended with Fedora? | Feb 07 05:12 |
| oiaohm | Fedora core 5 had a lot of non upstreamed patches. That lead to about 1/4 of all packages not working right. sebsebseb | Feb 07 05:13 |
| sebsebseb | oh? | Feb 07 05:13 |
| sebsebseb | such as? | Feb 07 05:13 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Nokia wants to be a player | Feb 07 05:13 |
| oiaohm | sebsebseb: ldap server for one did not run. | Feb 07 05:13 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | despararte it is | Feb 07 05:13 |
| oiaohm | sebsebseb: at all | Feb 07 05:13 |
| sebsebseb | oiaohm: sounds familur ldap, but what's that? | Feb 07 05:13 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | even to suck up to MS it is | Feb 07 05:13 |
| Ender2070 | [00:12] <Chips_B_Malroy> even to suck up to MS it is | Feb 07 05:14 |
| Ender2070 | cite your evidence | Feb 07 05:14 |
| Ender2070 | I see no indication that they are doing this | Feb 07 05:14 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | but only 10% of Nokia's market is in the smartphone market | Feb 07 05:14 |
| oiaohm | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LDAP << Something kinda important if you want to be running a network of multiable machines with shared user data. sebsebseb | Feb 07 05:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: LDAP - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 96.96 KB | Feb 07 05:14 |
| sebsebseb | I was a bit shocked in a way earlier or whatever, I had to explain to someone who wants to do like packaging and such for Mageia | Feb 07 05:14 |
| sebsebseb | what upstream is! | Feb 07 05:14 |
| Ender2070 | even Symbian has a stronger market share than win7 | Feb 07 05:15 |
| oiaohm | sebsebseb: three of the 4 ftp servers were ustable. Basically they completely had ruined it. | Feb 07 05:15 |
| Ender2070 | win7phone* | Feb 07 05:15 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | 90% of Nokia's market is in the'dumbphone' market. And less is in the American market which it never really had in the smartphone market. | Feb 07 05:15 |
| Ender2070 | [00:14] <Chips_B_Malroy> | Feb 07 05:15 |
| Ender2070 | one last time | Feb 07 05:15 |
| oiaohm | sebsebseb: not working with upstream ie the main project for something . Leads to the problem of your patches not always applying correctly when you upatt to what the main project is doing. | Feb 07 05:16 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | The truth is | Feb 07 05:16 |
| Ender2070 | do you have any evidence that nokia has entered into a deal to provide win7mobile phones? | Feb 07 05:16 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Nokia does not really matter | Feb 07 05:16 |
| sebsebseb | oiaohm: yeah | Feb 07 05:16 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | No | Feb 07 05:16 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | I do not | Feb 07 05:16 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @natnewswatch: Elizabeth May’s office destroyed in Saanich, B.C. http://bit.ly/gFg0TS #cdnpoli #gpc | Feb 07 05:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @laurelrusswurm: new blog post: !StopUBB !UBB is Bad: http://ur1.ca/35144 | Feb 07 05:16 | |
| sebsebseb | oiaohm: and distros becoming an upstream for big stuff like Ubuntu/Canonical with Unity, probably not really the best thing | Feb 07 05:16 |
| Ender2070 | then what you have is a CONSPIRACY THEORY | Feb 07 05:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Elizabeth May’s office destroyed after truck crashes through wall - thestar.com .::. Size~: 96.28 KB | Feb 07 05:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: UBB is Bad « Stop Usage Based Billing .::. Size~: 63.82 KB | Feb 07 05:16 |
| Ender2070 | it can't be proven either way without them | Feb 07 05:16 |
| Ender2070 | that's called FUD | Feb 07 05:17 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | but I now believe that Roy theory is more likely to be correct | Feb 07 05:17 |
| oiaohm | sebsebseb: Fedora core 5 had also tried todo that in places. sebsebseb | Feb 07 05:17 |
| Ender2070 | it's just a theory | Feb 07 05:17 |
| sebsebseb | are any of you lot like me, when it comes to Linuxland, you find this time of year quite sucky | Feb 07 05:17 |
| Ender2070 | stop spreading it around like fact | Feb 07 05:17 |
| sebsebseb | ,but then | Feb 07 05:17 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | more probable | Feb 07 05:17 |
| oiaohm | sebsebseb: Result of becoming your own upstream is you lose independant auditing of what you are doing. | Feb 07 05:17 |
| sebsebseb | start enjoying things more as more stuff starts to happen | Feb 07 05:17 |
| Ender2070 | Open Source will win out of superiority, not out of lies | Feb 07 05:17 |
| sebsebseb | April is a good time in Linux distro land for example and October or whatever | Feb 07 05:17 |
| oiaohm | sebsebseb: so removing the safe gard distributions provide. | Feb 07 05:17 |
| sebsebseb | I mean like me, look forward to what will happen in the year? | Feb 07 05:17 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | not fact, but probablable | Feb 07 05:18 |
| Ender2070 | lots of things are 'probable' | Feb 07 05:18 |
| Ender2070 | [sic] | Feb 07 05:18 |
| sebsebseb | Ender2070: Fedora 15, Gnome 3 by default :) ,but probably also Unity as an option in the main repos :) | Feb 07 05:18 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | spelling, sorry | Feb 07 05:18 |
| oiaohm | Unity is going to have issue. sebsebseb | Feb 07 05:18 |
| sebsebseb | oiaohm: it will have yes, when it comes to other distros wanting to contribute code | Feb 07 05:18 |
| oiaohm | Ubuntu copyright assignement policy will put it at risk of being forked. | Feb 07 05:19 |
| sebsebseb | oiaohm: if they don't sort out the CA | Feb 07 05:19 |
| Ender2070 | sebsebseb - KDE 4.6 as default for me | Feb 07 05:19 |
| Ender2070 | on F15 | Feb 07 05:19 |
| sebsebseb | jono see that ^ | Feb 07 05:19 |
| sebsebseb | oiaohm: agreed | Feb 07 05:19 |
| oiaohm | Really the big thing I am looking forward to is the release of gcc 4.6.0 | Feb 07 05:19 |
| sebsebseb | oiaohm: also on omgubuntu there was great comments from a guy who has been trying to bring it to Fedora | Feb 07 05:19 |
| Ender2070 | I hope redhat stops banning LTO | Feb 07 05:19 |
| sebsebseb | oiaohm: about all that kind of thing | Feb 07 05:19 |
| sebsebseb | oiaohm: to the alpha 2 got released blog post | Feb 07 05:19 |
| oiaohm | At long last a Gcc complier with some clue how to trueely optimsie C++ | Feb 07 05:20 |
| oiaohm | Ender2070: The current block on LTO from 4.5.0 is justified. | Feb 07 05:20 |
| sebsebseb | and yeah other distro people many of them, don't trust Canonical enough, to want to agree to their current CA | Feb 07 05:20 |
| Ender2070 | [00:19] <oiaohm> Ender2070: The current block on LTO from 4.5.0 is justified. | Feb 07 05:20 |
| Ender2070 | says you | Feb 07 05:20 |
| oiaohm | gcc developers also say so. | Feb 07 05:20 |
| sebsebseb | Ender2070: what's LTO? | Feb 07 05:20 |
| oiaohm | There are a pack of key bugs the hope to get solved. | Feb 07 05:20 |
| Ender2070 | they should have held it back then | Feb 07 05:21 |
| Ender2070 | the feature | Feb 07 05:21 |
| oiaohm | The bugs have only turned up as more code has been built. Ender2070 | Feb 07 05:21 |
| Ender2070 | besides | Feb 07 05:21 |
| sebsebseb | oiaohm: trust me 2011 will be an interesting year for Desktop Linux :) Gnome 3, Unity, and Mageia :) | Feb 07 05:21 |
| Ender2070 | it didn't stop openSUSE 11.3 from using LTO | Feb 07 05:21 |
| oiaohm | yes redhat has reported a lot of particular issues. | Feb 07 05:21 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | lets face it, something is going to happen soon on the Nokia/WP7 thing. Ballmer needs the media to not see WP7 to be the KIN like disaster that it is. Anything to distract is what he needs. If Nokia embraces WP7 and Android too, that is not so bad if both are done. | Feb 07 05:21 |
| sebsebseb | oiaohm: then of course the useual later versions of distros, Mint 11, and what not | Feb 07 05:22 |
| Ender2070 | Chips | Feb 07 05:22 |
| Ender2070 | its not going to happen | Feb 07 05:22 |
| oiaohm | Ender2070: and openSUSE only turned it on for particular packages. | Feb 07 05:22 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Its about Ballmer trying to hold onto his job | Feb 07 05:22 |
| sebsebseb | oiaohm: for me things still feel quite like 2010 at the moment | Feb 07 05:22 |
| oiaohm | Ender2070: and are using a patch that is not mainlined yet. | Feb 07 05:22 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | he wants more billions | Feb 07 05:22 |
| Ender2070 | oiaohm - i'd say thats reasonable to do | Feb 07 05:22 |
| Ender2070 | not everything benefits in the first place | Feb 07 05:22 |
| oiaohm | Ender2070: redhat is a little more careful. | Feb 07 05:22 |
| Ender2070 | it sure did make opensuse a hell of a lot faster than fedora 13 and 14 | Feb 07 05:23 |
| oiaohm | Yep. | Feb 07 05:23 |
| Ender2070 | even though I still think fedora is better | Feb 07 05:23 |
| Ender2070 | its one of the things i'd improve | Feb 07 05:23 |
| Ender2070 | along with replacing firefox with chromium | Feb 07 05:23 |
| oiaohm | If you notice KDE slowed down when built with lto. Ender2070 | Feb 07 05:23 |
| oiaohm | With gcc 4.5.0-1-2 | Feb 07 05:24 |
| Ender2070 | firefox's trademark restrictions make it FLOSS-imcompatible and it needs to be taken out | Feb 07 05:24 |
| oiaohm | Ie C++ code took a hiding basically Ender2070 | Feb 07 05:24 |
| oiaohm | gcc 4.6.0 has most of that fixed. Ender2070 | Feb 07 05:24 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] how annoying... i'm staying in TO for #FreeByron but can't remember my new Twitter password and laptop email isn't working :( | Feb 07 05:24 | |
| oiaohm | Also gcc 4.7.0 is marked to have lto on by default. Ie flag to turn it off. | Feb 07 05:25 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | I hopw you are right ender and Nokia and MS are not going to happen | Feb 07 05:25 |
| Ender2070 | their shareholders would be pissed | Feb 07 05:25 |
| Ender2070 | that would be, akin to AMD throwing away all their schematics and having Intel make their chips for them | Feb 07 05:26 |
| Ender2070 | or Burger King licensing the Big Mac from McDonalds | Feb 07 05:27 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | the bright spot for GNU/Linux would be that MS bleeds off more profits quickly. Just like Yahoo shareholders must be starting to be pissed off because of the Bing deal? | Feb 07 05:27 |
| oiaohm | Ender2070: remember AMD no longer owns it production. | Feb 07 05:28 |
| Ender2070 | im surprised nobody floated around the idea of Google and Microsoft partnering up because the old Google CEO was from Novell | Feb 07 05:28 |
| Ender2070 | oiaohm - they own the designs, and have a third party fab | Feb 07 05:28 |
| oiaohm | Ender2070: so AMD is one company that could vaporise due to arm growth. | Feb 07 05:28 |
| oiaohm | Ie more profitable for thrid party fab to make arm chips so drop AMD basically be death. | Feb 07 05:28 |
| Ender2070 | arm growth is apple hardware and android | Feb 07 05:28 |
| oiaohm | Remember windows 8 is also targeted at arm. | Feb 07 05:29 |
| oiaohm | Not a good time for x86 makers coming. | Feb 07 05:29 |
| Ender2070 | i dont know about that one | Feb 07 05:29 |
| Ender2070 | perhaps for non-pc's | Feb 07 05:29 |
| oiaohm | x86 makers can hope. | Feb 07 05:30 |
| oiaohm | Worse nightmare for them is if arm pc's appear. | Feb 07 05:30 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | INtel platform must go for the high end only in the short run (thing AMD vs Intel) | Feb 07 05:30 |
| Ender2070 | nobody is going to throw away all their old software for shitty slow arm stuff | Feb 07 05:30 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | *think | Feb 07 05:30 |
| oiaohm | What makes you think arm chips are slow. | Feb 07 05:30 |
| Ender2070 | benchmarks? | Feb 07 05:30 |
| oiaohm | also what speed do most users really need. | Feb 07 05:31 |
| Ender2070 | quite a bit | Feb 07 05:31 |
| oiaohm | Remember by end of this year we could be looking at 8 core plus arm chips running at 2 ghz per core. | Feb 07 05:31 |
| Ender2070 | i wonder what intel will have by then | Feb 07 05:32 |
| oiaohm | Problem is power usage. | Feb 07 05:32 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | ARM is already capturing the low end, and soon the middle | Feb 07 05:32 |
| Ender2070 | for a desktop pc, who cares | Feb 07 05:32 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | with the | Feb 07 05:32 |
| oiaohm | When you have 200 of them it does add up Ender2070 | Feb 07 05:32 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | American economy colasping | Feb 07 05:32 |
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| oiaohm | I see x86 being forced into high end only. | Feb 07 05:33 |
| Ender2070 | im not a green commie (watermelon) | Feb 07 05:33 |
| Ender2070 | good, i want high end only :) | Feb 07 05:33 |
| oiaohm | particularly when arm soc chips are 20 dollars each. | Feb 07 05:33 |
| oiaohm | from small batch runs. | Feb 07 05:33 |
| Ender2070 | Intel will probably have 8 core 3.2's with HT shortly | Feb 07 05:33 |
| oiaohm | HT does not help you as much as you think. | Feb 07 05:34 |
| Ender2070 | it does quite a bit | Feb 07 05:34 |
| oiaohm | Also x86 instructions are really not suited that well to multicore. | Feb 07 05:34 |
| Ender2070 | depending on workload | Feb 07 05:34 |
| Ender2070 | ugh | Feb 07 05:34 |
| Ender2070 | whats wrong with you | Feb 07 05:34 |
| oiaohm | Compared to arm instructions. | Feb 07 05:34 |
| Ender2070 | any multithreaded aware os can make instant use of it | Feb 07 05:34 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | now at 9.0% unemployment, down from 9.4%, with only 36k jobs created, translation: one million americans lost their employment pay and are not counted as being unemployed. True pain. | Feb 07 05:35 |
| Ender2070 | chromium the browser for example, will run even faster without a recompile at all | Feb 07 05:35 |
| Ender2070 | since it already uses threads for tabs | Feb 07 05:35 |
| oiaohm | Ender2070: the kernel has to move processes between cores at times. | Feb 07 05:35 |
| oiaohm | Ender2070: arm is more effective doing that. | Feb 07 05:35 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | This is the pain that will cause MS and Nokia to fail as well. | Feb 07 05:35 |
| oiaohm | Also arm does better on context switching. | Feb 07 05:35 |
| DaemonFC | Chips_B_Malroy: You used to be a salaried manager working for $80,000 a year, now you're flipping burgers at McDonalds part time | Feb 07 05:36 |
| DaemonFC | you're employed | Feb 07 05:36 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Feb 07 05:36 |
| oiaohm | Ender2070: because they had the chance to look at the instructions x86 used and design without the bugs. | Feb 07 05:36 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | well, thats true, I suppose | Feb 07 05:36 |
| DaemonFC | when Bush was in office, they counted fast food jobs as manufacturing | Feb 07 05:36 |
| DaemonFC | on the basis that assembling a cheeseburger was a manufacturing job | Feb 07 05:36 |
| Ender2070 | lol | Feb 07 05:36 |
| Ender2070 | technically it is | Feb 07 05:36 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | I am somewhat apolitical | Feb 07 05:36 |
| Ender2070 | hey daemonfc, my favorite right wing nut! | Feb 07 05:37 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | as I see the bigger threat as corporate | Feb 07 05:37 |
| DaemonFC | they were using census jobs to say the economy was getting better | Feb 07 05:37 |
| DaemonFC | then when the government fired all the census workers, that wasn't figured into the unemployment | Feb 07 05:37 |
| DaemonFC | because those were seasonally adjusted figures B-) | Feb 07 05:37 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | or should I say the bigger threat as corruptate? | Feb 07 05:38 |
| Ender2070 | Bush = Obama | Feb 07 05:38 |
| DaemonFC | every employment report is cooked | Feb 07 05:38 |
| Ender2070 | Obama came in, and started giving welfare to the wrong people (the banks) | Feb 07 05:38 |
| oiaohm | Ender2070: one of the strange things on arm is what is called the trust zone. So you can have two OS's using the same cores and not know the other is there. | Feb 07 05:38 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | or Obama=Bush2? | Feb 07 05:38 |
| DaemonFC | the kind of economy we have encourages bubbles to happen | Feb 07 05:38 |
| DaemonFC | followed by severe contractions | Feb 07 05:38 |
| Ender2070 | daemonfc - its the watermelons that lobbied to make sure no new manufacturing plants open in the US | Feb 07 05:39 |
| DaemonFC | actually, Obama may be worse than Bush | Feb 07 05:39 |
| Ender2070 | back in the 70's | Feb 07 05:39 |
| DaemonFC | ever since Obama got in office it's been Christmas every day for the MAFIAA | Feb 07 05:39 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | it could be worse, if Romey gets in | Feb 07 05:39 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Mr. Corporate | Feb 07 05:39 |
| Ender2070 | and the MAFIA | Feb 07 05:39 |
| Ender2070 | ;) | Feb 07 05:39 |
| Ender2070 | Mit Romney? | Feb 07 05:40 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | yep | Feb 07 05:40 |
| DaemonFC | the Mormon | Feb 07 05:40 |
| Ender2070 | yeah hes a character thats for sure | Feb 07 05:40 |
| DaemonFC | we may as well just throw some Scientologists in | Feb 07 05:40 |
| Ender2070 | I'd say scientologists are pretty sane in comparison to some of these people | Feb 07 05:41 |
| DaemonFC | the Mormons are weirdo nutcases even by Christian standards | Feb 07 05:41 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | I would actually perfer Palin to him, and that is not saying much. But at least she is good looking. | Feb 07 05:41 |
| Ender2070 | i'd vote for Ron Paul | Feb 07 05:41 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | me too | Feb 07 05:41 |
| Ender2070 | if I were american | Feb 07 05:41 |
| DaemonFC | I want to see a Ventura/Nader ticket | Feb 07 05:41 |
| DaemonFC | I could get behind that | Feb 07 05:42 |
| Ender2070 | they should let the world vote, since they are the world police | Feb 07 05:42 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | he is about the only sane one on that side | Feb 07 05:42 |
| Ender2070 | ventura/nader, lol | Feb 07 05:42 |
| Ender2070 | that would be badass | Feb 07 05:42 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Nader I doubt will run again | Feb 07 05:42 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | he would have been good | Feb 07 05:43 |
| Ender2070 | Ventura comes in, and steals the Nashville Powerbomb, using it on McCain | Feb 07 05:43 |
| DaemonFC | Ender2070: The Democrats and Republicans are like Coke and Pepsi | Feb 07 05:43 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | yes | Feb 07 05:43 |
| DaemonFC | one may be a bit sweeter than the other but they're basically the same thing | Feb 07 05:43 |
| Ender2070 | very true | Feb 07 05:43 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | two sides of the same coin, little difference, owned by the same rich folks | Feb 07 05:43 |
| DaemonFC | in every important way, they're the same party, the only difference is the fringe issues they promote | Feb 07 05:44 |
| Ender2070 | two wings of the same bird | Feb 07 05:44 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | just like the middle east countries | Feb 07 05:44 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Egypt | Feb 07 05:44 |
| Ender2070 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrjWALYlH0A | Feb 07 05:44 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | Billionarnes | Feb 07 05:44 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | that run North African countries | Feb 07 05:44 |
| DaemonFC | The only level where I see any difference in the party platforms is state level or lower | Feb 07 05:45 |
| DaemonFC | the national parties are both disgusting | Feb 07 05:45 |
| Ender2070 | that's because you have the worlds biggest rich people trying to globalize the world | Feb 07 05:45 |
| Ender2070 | they fund all the candidates who make it | Feb 07 05:46 |
| Ender2070 | ensuring this happens | Feb 07 05:46 |
| Ender2070 | the bilderburg meetings for example, not a conspiracy anymore | Feb 07 05:46 |
| Ender2070 | just spun and PRed into obscurity | Feb 07 05:47 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | they take 20 to 51% of all foreign investment for the rulers of those countries. Graph on a major scale. Not so much here, as most of our politicains are only millionaries. But then agan, that is what we are told, The money is in swiss bank accounts and such and who really knows how much our politicians really have stole from us? | Feb 07 05:48 |
| DaemonFC | you have Democrats and Republicans making the laws about what you have to do to be eligible to get on the ballot | Feb 07 05:48 |
| DaemonFC | gee, I wonder who's getting elected :) | Feb 07 05:48 |
| Ender2070 | you also get politicians who are crooks and steal | Feb 07 05:48 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | the rich get richer, the poor get shafted | Feb 07 05:48 |
| DaemonFC | they do everything they can to drown everyone else out | Feb 07 05:48 |
| DaemonFC | but at the same time, it looks like everyone has a chance | Feb 07 05:49 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | no, its dosen't | Feb 07 05:49 |
| Ender2070 | the poor are about to get shafted again with all the new eco taxes | Feb 07 05:49 |
| Ender2070 | keeping them poor | Feb 07 05:49 |
| DaemonFC | they make laws like "You have to get 350,000 signatures on a petition to get on the ballot" | Feb 07 05:49 |
| DaemonFC | that's not a problem for two parties with unlimited resources | Feb 07 05:49 |
| Ender2070 | daemonfc | Feb 07 05:49 |
| DaemonFC | but YOU try it | Feb 07 05:49 |
| Ender2070 | in Canada it costs $1000 to run for MP | Feb 07 05:50 |
| DaemonFC | that's a bargain | Feb 07 05:50 |
| Ender2070 | it pays about 150,000 a year, and you get to accept bribes and steal money | Feb 07 05:50 |
| DaemonFC | I think it costs $30 million to be a US Senator | Feb 07 05:50 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Feb 07 05:50 |
| Ender2070 | im talking to just be on the ballot at elections | Feb 07 05:50 |
| Ender2070 | did I mention that you're supposed to obtain that via donations, and that you get it back afterwards | Feb 07 05:51 |
| DaemonFC | so? if it works anything like it does here, then you have to have a multi million dollar ad campaign | Feb 07 05:52 |
| Ender2070 | true | Feb 07 05:52 |
| DaemonFC | and pay shills to go door to door for you | Feb 07 05:52 |
| Ender2070 | but if you loose, you get a free $1000 | Feb 07 05:52 |
| DaemonFC | what's a measly $1,000? | Feb 07 05:52 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | the question is, at what point will the sheepie has put up with enough? In Eygpt we might have an anwser. Even here the US congress now wants to pass a law letting the executive cut off the internet just like Mubarect did. | Feb 07 05:52 |
| Ender2070 | true | Feb 07 05:52 |
| Ender2070 | i'd rather not get into running for politics anyways | Feb 07 05:52 |
| Ender2070 | i wouldn't get very far | Feb 07 05:52 |
| DaemonFC | McCain campaign was paying people $10 an hour to go canvassing | Feb 07 05:53 |
| Ender2070 | i'm not rich, i don't have rich friends, nor am I a freemason | Feb 07 05:53 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | it has become all about the money, hasn't it? | Feb 07 05:53 |
| Ender2070 | i'm not in any of the groups who put candidates in | Feb 07 05:53 |
| DaemonFC | the news saw two black women doing that who jsut threw their flyers in the trash | Feb 07 05:53 |
| DaemonFC | and came back 8 hours later for their pay | Feb 07 05:53 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Feb 07 05:53 |
| DaemonFC | I can't fault them, I'd throw my flyers in the trash and come back 8 hours later if there was $80 in it for me | Feb 07 05:54 |
| Ender2070 | i'm also not a crook or a theif, which is a requirement | Feb 07 05:54 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | but then you know you are working for corrupt people | Feb 07 05:54 |
| Ender2070 | you'll have people who sign government contracts after accepting a 5% cut as a bribe | Feb 07 05:54 |
| Ender2070 | one person I know of had a multi million dollar project and people in the mulrooney government wanted a bribe to make it happen | Feb 07 05:55 |
| DaemonFC | the government awards no bid contracts out to politically connected companies and encourages as much waste and fraud as they can squeeze in | Feb 07 05:55 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | its time to admitt that things are not that much better than egypt here | Feb 07 05:55 |
| Ender2070 | afterwards this guy spent 1000 days at parliment hill asking MP's to stop stealing money | Feb 07 05:55 |
| Ender2070 | including Brian Mulrooney | Feb 07 05:56 |
| DaemonFC | you remember that guy in the UK who was using government money to get his moat cleaned | Feb 07 05:56 |
| DaemonFC | among other things | Feb 07 05:56 |
| Ender2070 | lol | Feb 07 05:56 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | the only real difference here is that not 40% of the public is making less than $2 a day, but we are sure going in that direction. | Feb 07 05:56 |
| Ender2070 | Cretien had a bunch of areas around his retirement home redesigned, renovated, etc | Feb 07 05:56 |
| DaemonFC | then the Queen applied for utility assistance meant to help the poor | Feb 07 05:57 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | we will get there | Feb 07 05:57 |
| DaemonFC | then when that hit the news, they blamed some guy that does the taxes | Feb 07 05:57 |
| DaemonFC | the forms claimed that $200,000 a year in utilities was an undue hardship on Buckingham Palace | Feb 07 05:58 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Feb 07 05:58 |
| Ender2070 | to be fair | Feb 07 05:58 |
| DaemonFC | the Queen commits welfare fraud, why shouldn't her subjects? :) | Feb 07 05:58 |
| Ender2070 | she could be a bitch and just take back the land | Feb 07 05:58 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | did not England use to own the ultilities? | Feb 07 05:58 |
| Ender2070 | "you can have your UK right there, in that sandbox" | Feb 07 05:59 |
| Ender2070 | my theory at least | Feb 07 05:59 |
| Ender2070 | is that if the ice caps did melt and it flooded everywhere | Feb 07 05:59 |
| Ender2070 | she would take back Canada | Feb 07 05:59 |
| Ender2070 | the Canadian shield would be one of the safest places to be | Feb 07 06:00 |
| Ender2070 | not that I believe in that theory (the climate change stuff) | Feb 07 06:00 |
| Ender2070 | I plan my retirement up there "just in case" | Feb 07 06:01 |
| Ender2070 | lol | Feb 07 06:01 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | too cold for me | Feb 07 06:01 |
| Ender2070 | would you rather be cold or dead? | Feb 07 06:02 |
| Ender2070 | burried underwater | Feb 07 06:02 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | just go up in elevation | Feb 07 06:02 |
| Ender2070 | hence | Feb 07 06:02 |
| Ender2070 | Canadian Shield | Feb 07 06:02 |
| Ender2070 | safest place to be in the event of a flood | Feb 07 06:02 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Rockies | Feb 07 06:02 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Mtn | Feb 07 06:02 |
| Ender2070 | i've seen the flood maps | Feb 07 06:03 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | we have lots of them here | Feb 07 06:03 |
| Ender2070 | theoretical of course | Feb 07 06:03 |
| Ender2070 | canadian shield is in ontario | Feb 07 06:03 |
| Ender2070 | it goes along hudsons bay | Feb 07 06:03 |
| Ender2070 | anyone living near the great lakes will be dead | Feb 07 06:04 |
| Ender2070 | assuming the green people are correct | Feb 07 06:04 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | none of that stuff will happen overnight | Feb 07 06:04 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | even if you believe it | Feb 07 06:05 |
| Ender2070 | the great lake stuff will happen quickly | Feb 07 06:05 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | as in how many years? | Feb 07 06:05 |
| Ender2070 | well quickly as in, when it happens, it happens | Feb 07 06:05 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | this lifetime or next, or several generations? | Feb 07 06:05 |
| Ender2070 | it won't take years to flood, it'll flood pretty fast in the great lakes | Feb 07 06:05 |
| Ender2070 | City of Sault Ste would be one of the worst places to be | Feb 07 06:06 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | its more like the weather, as in maybe | Feb 07 06:06 |
| Ender2070 | think of a milder version of the title wave from 2012 | Feb 07 06:06 |
| Ender2070 | tidal | Feb 07 06:06 |
| Ender2070 | IF (big IF) | Feb 07 06:07 |
| Ender2070 | The green eco facists are correct. Which I doubt. | Feb 07 06:07 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | if you tried to convince more people that pollution is bad, you would get further | Feb 07 06:07 |
| Ender2070 | im sure people understand pollution is bad | Feb 07 06:08 |
| Ender2070 | they think paying higher taxes will fix it without them having to do anything | Feb 07 06:08 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | the bad part is that most of the pollution laws fall upon the working class and not the corporations and the governments that pollute the most | Feb 07 06:08 |
| Ender2070 | im not a green facist, but i still take the bus to work from hamilton to mississauga because its smarter and costs less | Feb 07 06:08 |
| Ender2070 | i dont really like cars all that much | Feb 07 06:09 |
| DaemonFC | I used to take the bus to work before I moved to the ass end of nowhere | Feb 07 06:09 |
| DaemonFC | :( | Feb 07 06:09 |
| Ender2070 | im pro-technology, need to find ways to reduce travel or make new methods of travel that are instantanious star trek like methods | Feb 07 06:09 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | buses that run with one passenger really do not help the enviroment, which is common here | Feb 07 06:09 |
| Ender2070 | chips, I even get tax breaks for taking the bus | Feb 07 06:10 |
| Ender2070 | thats a good way to promote it | Feb 07 06:10 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | belive me I do understand | Feb 07 06:10 |
| Ender2070 | you dont promote it by forcing someone to pay a new tax on something they didnt before | Feb 07 06:10 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | which is why I sort of like Ron Paul | Feb 07 06:11 |
| Ender2070 | David Suzuki was chuckling over the gas prices skyrocketting, saying it finally forced people to take the bus | Feb 07 06:11 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | on the conservative end that is | Feb 07 06:11 |
| Ender2070 | i hate that guy | Feb 07 06:11 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | he is very wrong on the gas prices | Feb 07 06:11 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | gas prices are all about greed and monopolies | Feb 07 06:12 |
| Ender2070 | yup | Feb 07 06:12 |
| Ender2070 | we could have electric cars | Feb 07 06:12 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | about money going to the super rich | Feb 07 06:12 |
| Ender2070 | everyone I know at my work wants an electric car instead | Feb 07 06:13 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | electric is about money going to electric companies that burn what? | Feb 07 06:13 |
| Ender2070 | around here it makes sense, the power grid runs on hydroelectric and nuclear | Feb 07 06:13 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | buy solar panels and wind generators, I guess | Feb 07 06:13 |
| Ender2070 | diablod3 was taking about personal nuclear reactors with too little material to make a bomb but enough to power a home | Feb 07 06:14 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | but lets face it, mostly electric companies burn fossel fuels. And nuclear is not clean burning as they lie. | Feb 07 06:14 |
| Ender2070 | nuclear is cleaner than coal | Feb 07 06:14 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | except | Feb 07 06:15 |
| Ender2070 | the damage is extracting the material, and disposing it | Feb 07 06:15 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | for the half life of the waste | Feb 07 06:15 |
| Ender2070 | coal has damage in all 3 areas | Feb 07 06:15 |
| Ender2070 | it pollutes while in use | Feb 07 06:15 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | where will you store the spent radioactive material? | Feb 07 06:16 |
| Ender2070 | they also haven't really designed many new types of reactors either | Feb 07 06:16 |
| Ender2070 | thanks to hippies | Feb 07 06:16 |
| Ender2070 | [01:15] <Chips_B_Malroy> where will you store the spent radioactive material? | Feb 07 06:16 |
| Ender2070 | space | Feb 07 06:16 |
| Ender2070 | the final storage dump | Feb 07 06:17 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | well, guess I am a hippie. I think Nuclear is bad. | Feb 07 06:17 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | what goes up must come down | Feb 07 06:17 |
| Ender2070 | ship it via piggyback to one of the shuttles on the way to the ISS and then put it on a path out of the solar system | Feb 07 06:17 |
| Ender2070 | im sure that idea won't work because I don't know the science | Feb 07 06:18 |
| Ender2070 | but at least im trying | Feb 07 06:18 |
| Ender2070 | lol | Feb 07 06:18 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | we are talking about a lot of low grade spent material that will never be practical to send out of orbit | Feb 07 06:18 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | but good idea, just not practical | Feb 07 06:18 |
| Ender2070 | send it to the core of the earth | Feb 07 06:18 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | it will pollute the water in a way that is more major than anything | Feb 07 06:19 |
| Ender2070 | bah | Feb 07 06:19 |
| Ender2070 | technology needs to advance then | Feb 07 06:19 |
| Ender2070 | hurry up cold fusion | Feb 07 06:20 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | for a half life of ? my guess at least 200'000 years or more? | Feb 07 06:20 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Nuclear, my friend is the worse kind of polution | Feb 07 06:20 |
| Ender2070 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zc9-2rb8TxU | Feb 07 06:21 |
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| Ender2070 | @1:30 | Feb 07 06:21 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | its the scam that the gov wants so they can keep producing more bombs as byproducts to nuclear power plants | Feb 07 06:21 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | which is the only real reason the Gov wants these plants, the same reason Iran wants Nuclear power plants to power a country with a surplus of fossel fuels. | Feb 07 06:23 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | North Korea however, does not have a surplus of fossel fuels, but has other reasons. | Feb 07 06:24 |
| Ender2070 | I love this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8Q-sRdV7SY | Feb 07 06:24 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | Main reasons for Nuclear power plants is the byproducts, bombs. | Feb 07 06:24 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | think about it | Feb 07 06:25 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | and be very scared | Feb 07 06:25 |
| Ender2070 | lol | Feb 07 06:26 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | nobody really knows what the halflive of nuclear is. That is the main reason that both the US and Russian wants to replace its entire nuclear bomb arsonal every 25 years or less | Feb 07 06:27 |
| Ender2070 | that might explain why they don't want Iran to have modern power | Feb 07 06:27 |
| Ender2070 | they knew themselves that its just a ruse for more bombs | Feb 07 06:27 |
| Ender2070 | from their own point of view | Feb 07 06:28 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | for an arsonal that is supposed to last for 200.000 years, they replace it in less than 25 years? | Feb 07 06:28 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | I only ask that you question. Question both the reason and the science and economy of this. And maybe the green of this. | Feb 07 06:29 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | the motive is greed | Feb 07 06:29 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | not what they tell us | Feb 07 06:30 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | we don't need or want nuclear | Feb 07 06:30 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | it is very dangerous | Feb 07 06:30 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | it is an accident waiting to happen | Feb 07 06:30 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 7/2/2011: #Johannesburg Stock Exchange Moves to GNU/Linux, Honeycomb in the News http://ur1.ca/351kl #jse !techrights | Feb 07 06:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Links 7/2/2011: Johannesburg Stock Exchange Moves to GNU/Linux, Honeycomb in the News http://ur1.ca/351kl #techrights | Feb 07 06:31 | |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | there will be more Cherenobles | Feb 07 06:31 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | Can you really trust the motives of the Gov when it comes to Nuclear power plants? | Feb 07 06:33 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | I say no. | Feb 07 06:34 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | They only want bombs | Feb 07 06:34 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | all of them | Feb 07 06:34 |
| Ender2070 | lol | Feb 07 06:34 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | even yours | Feb 07 06:34 |
| Ender2070 | they're only going to destroy the world with that | Feb 07 06:35 |
| Ender2070 | or ensure nobody ever uses one | Feb 07 06:35 |
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| Ender2070 | if there is a nuclear war, the right people will be safe underground | Feb 07 06:35 |
| Ender2070 | in their view | Feb 07 06:36 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | no, they are going to first, make money, as the first corporate byproduct. and second make bombs as the second byproduct to 'protect' their citizens.' | Feb 07 06:36 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @wikileaks: Clinton probes Russia’s relationship with Cuba and Venezuela http://ur1.ca/351lh | Feb 07 06:36 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Feb 07 06:36 |
| Ender2070 | what if they bombs are defense against.... | Feb 07 06:37 |
| *Ender2070 looks around | Feb 07 06:37 | |
| Ender2070 | aliens! | Feb 07 06:37 |
| Ender2070 | if daemonfc were here | Feb 07 06:37 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | mutial ensured destruction, forget that, its simpler. Looks for the corporate profits my friend. | Feb 07 06:37 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | or Elvis | Feb 07 06:38 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | follow the money | Feb 07 06:38 |
| Ender2070 | im sure theres some good technology thats hidden | Feb 07 06:38 |
| Ender2070 | some of the stuff Telsa designed would've made these guys bankrupt | Feb 07 06:39 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | not saying it might not have some very limited uses, but not for consumer power plants | Feb 07 06:39 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | at least not at this time yet | Feb 07 06:39 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Yemen - Yemen President Takes Marching Orders From U.S. Embassy http://ur1.ca/351mi !wikileaks | Feb 07 06:40 | |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | have you looked at the amount of low grade nuclear waste along they want to store at Yucca Mountain? | Feb 07 06:40 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | *alone | Feb 07 06:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Pilger, Wilkie, Burnside to defend !WikiLeaks http://ur1.ca/351mt what kind of person /wouldn't/? | Feb 07 06:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Leaked cables reveal anger at regime may make #Libya the next Arab domino to fall http://ur1.ca/351mx | Feb 07 06:41 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] US Behind Swedish Internet Surveillance: #Cablegate http://ur1.ca/351n5 !wikileaks | Feb 07 06:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Suleiman 'panned' #Egypt opposition http://ur1.ca/351nc and now he negotiates for #mubarak (with the protesters) | Feb 07 06:43 | |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | Remember the hair brained plan to send nuclear waste to the MOON? That turned out to be only practical for only a tiny amount of what is produced. Well not practical at all. In fact in only worked in Hollywood movies. | Feb 07 06:44 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | about the same amount of fuel to ship to the moon as required to ship waste out of orbit, only the direction is differnet | Feb 07 06:45 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @qu1j0t3 RT @anarchists 1 Killed, 11 Injured at Omega Psi Phi House Party at Youngstown State Uni http://ow.ly/3RnhU //what was the weapon | Feb 07 06:46 | |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | Nuclear is probably the most highly polluting of all the energy sources in the long term | Feb 07 06:46 |
| Ender2070 | lol @ RMS | Feb 07 06:47 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | maybe that is why Gates loves it | Feb 07 06:47 |
| Ender2070 | "Instead of raising taxes on charitable foundations, let's raise taxes on rich people and businesses. We would raise a lot more money that way." | Feb 07 06:48 |
| Ender2070 | he actually said that | Feb 07 06:50 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | he says a lot of stuff, and mostly the message is fake | Feb 07 06:50 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Gates has a problem with the truth | Feb 07 06:51 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | as in he does not care to tell it | Feb 07 06:51 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | he is an habitual lier | Feb 07 06:51 |
| Ender2070 | no | Feb 07 06:52 |
| Ender2070 | RMS said that | Feb 07 06:52 |
| Ender2070 | "Instead of raising taxes on charitable foundations, let's raise taxes on rich people and businesses. We would raise a lot more money that way." | Feb 07 06:52 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | he pretends to be (gates) a friend of the people, when he is in fact a greedy midas type | Feb 07 06:52 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | sorry, if RMS said that, then he means what he says | Feb 07 06:53 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | but not Gates | Feb 07 06:53 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Gates is only out for himself | Feb 07 06:54 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | screw everyone else, is what Gates is all about | Feb 07 06:54 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Gates is the type that could have run Egypt | Feb 07 06:55 |
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| oiaohm | http://www.zdnet.com/blog/perlow/google-facebook-end-passwords-get-biometrics-now/15793?tag=mantle_skin;content Some people idiot status I still cannot believe | Feb 07 06:56 |
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| oiaohm | Biometrices for over internet does not increase secuirty. | Feb 07 06:56 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Bush regime has driven away many talented people from the country (and smart foreign students). Will people like #Orban do the same to .hu? | Feb 07 06:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Just recovered T password (mail working) ... but got to get some sleep so i can be conscious for #freeByron hearing in a few hours | Feb 07 06:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @schestowitz US Behind Swedish Internet Surveillance: #Cablegate http://ur1.ca/351n5 !wikileaks | Feb 07 06:56 | |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | Would Gates or Mubaric have run Eygpt and differnet if either was in charge the last 30 years, I ask? | Feb 07 06:56 |
| oiaohm | All you do is work out how to fake the biometrices data. | Feb 07 06:56 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | *any | Feb 07 06:57 |
| oiaohm | Gates would have made more profit. Chips_B_Malroy | Feb 07 06:58 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Good morning @kevie and good night !identiverse | Feb 07 06:58 | |
| Chips_B_Malroy | you might be right | Feb 07 06:58 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | but one constant, they both dishonest (crooks). | Feb 07 06:58 |
| oiaohm | Gates has an accountancy degree. | Feb 07 06:59 |
| oiaohm | so knows how to follow the money. | Feb 07 06:59 |
| oiaohm | so underhanded dealing by officals might have been less as well. | Feb 07 06:59 |
| oiaohm | Ie underhanded dealing that they got to keep. | Feb 07 06:59 |
| oiaohm | Crook that knows how to do books is more dangrous than a crook that does not. Chips_B_Malroy | Feb 07 07:00 |
| oiaohm | Mind you with Gates iron hand he might not have lasted 30 years in charge of Eygpt. | Feb 07 07:01 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | ok, the question is how far does the corruption in governments go? Is it just the Arab Muslim countries, or are the Western countries as well on the same scale? | Feb 07 07:01 |
| Ender2070 | all of the ones who have a central bank | Feb 07 07:02 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Remember, Mubaric hide most of his wealth until very recently | Feb 07 07:02 |
| schestowitz | Gates has nuclear patents | Feb 07 07:06 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Most of us have come to the conclusion that our leaders too are corrupt, its only question is to the scale of their corruption. Is it in the millions or the billions? As it can be hidden it seems right up to the end in some of these countries having the citizens not knowing until the end. | Feb 07 07:06 |
| schestowitz | His mate Nathan has them | Feb 07 07:06 |
| schestowitz | So they shill for it to government | Feb 07 07:06 |
| schestowitz | So that taxpayers "buy a licence" to the patents | Feb 07 07:06 |
| schestowitz | Chips_B_Malroy: BTW, 3rd gen and 4th gen nuclear reactors are different | Feb 07 07:07 |
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| schestowitz | Nuclear is safe and it's said to have little byproduct | Feb 07 07:07 |
| schestowitz | I think it's better than alternatives bar wave and solar | Feb 07 07:07 |
| schestowitz | Oh, and wind | Feb 07 07:07 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Cernobel was suppose to be safe too, I believe. | Feb 07 07:07 |
| schestowitz | No | Feb 07 07:08 |
| schestowitz | It was negligent | Feb 07 07:08 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | only after it failed | Feb 07 07:08 |
| schestowitz | Read the real story. it was also old-gen built. | Feb 07 07:08 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | everything nuclear is safe until it fails | Feb 07 07:08 |
| schestowitz | http://skeptoid.com/episodes/4092 | Feb 07 07:08 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | gov will tell you its good | Feb 07 07:09 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | do not trust them, its all about the money | Feb 07 07:09 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | many ways to twist the truth | Feb 07 07:09 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @unhammer «Defensive publications provide descriptions of method so it enters the public domain and becomes prior art» http://is.gd/0eLNuJ | Feb 07 07:10 | |
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| schestowitz | http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/43620.html | Feb 07 07:10 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | last word on nuclear from Professor Murphey. If it can fail, it will. | Feb 07 07:11 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | give it 200'000 years to fail and it will | Feb 07 07:11 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Huge attendance at #FOSDEM. Big theatre hall was nearly packed for Eben Moglen's keynote (pic) http://ur1.ca/351tw | Feb 07 07:11 | |
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| schestowitz | In 200'000 years a lot more will fail | Feb 07 07:13 |
| schestowitz | I'm not sure us homo sapients will even be around that long | Feb 07 07:13 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @laurelrusswurm RD @BlueShoes55 Mubarak pathetically hanging on in Egypt⇒ SO Custer's last stand at Little Big Horn | Feb 07 07:13 | |
| Ender2070 | im not sure either | Feb 07 07:14 |
| Ender2070 | homo sapiens will likely be replaced | Feb 07 07:14 |
| Ender2070 | probably within our lifetimes | Feb 07 07:14 |
| Ender2070 | genetic engineering | Feb 07 07:15 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @bdalegarbee: If you are an individual member of the Linux Foundation and have not yet voted ... directors election, please do so today! | Feb 07 07:15 | |
| schestowitz | Ender2070: yes | Feb 07 07:15 |
| schestowitz | We're only like 150,000 years old | Feb 07 07:16 |
| Ender2070 | yeah | Feb 07 07:16 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | with what? Most likely critter to survive an atomic world wide war, is cockroast. Animal that is becoming smarter at faster rate is the k9. | Feb 07 07:16 |
| Ender2070 | haven't you played Fallout 3? | Feb 07 07:17 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | *fastest | Feb 07 07:17 |
| Ender2070 | the k9 is a task oriented and designed slave | Feb 07 07:17 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] TIM WU: Drop the Case Against #Assange http://ur1.ca/351vo although it can in some way elevate !wikileaks status, not validate... | Feb 07 07:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @harishpillay Spacewalk 1.3 released - http://ur1.ca/351vu | Feb 07 07:18 | |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | but is the most engineered as well | Feb 07 07:18 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | selectived breeding | Feb 07 07:18 |
| Ender2070 | yes | Feb 07 07:18 |
| Ender2070 | what happens when you take humans and genetically engineer them? | Feb 07 07:18 |
| Ender2070 | within our lifetimes | Feb 07 07:19 |
| Ender2070 | assuming your mid 20's right now | Feb 07 07:19 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | k9 documented selective breeding in the last 200 years | Feb 07 07:19 |
| Ender2070 | i dont want to burst your bubble | Feb 07 07:19 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] Mornings all !Coffee time remember cream, and a spoon... | Feb 07 07:20 | |
| Ender2070 | but the elite have been selectively breeding psychopathy into their lines for probably longer | Feb 07 07:20 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | bluebloods | Feb 07 07:20 |
| Ender2070 | yes | Feb 07 07:20 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | not quite the same thing | Feb 07 07:20 |
| Ender2070 | they believe their dna is superior and founded all of the eugenics groups | Feb 07 07:21 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | more like insest | Feb 07 07:21 |
| Ender2070 | well what do you think happens | Feb 07 07:21 |
| Ender2070 | its selective breeding with a specific set of dna | Feb 07 07:21 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @wikileaks2 "That which is asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without argument."-- Julian Assange http://youtu.be/zL6433U87HU !wl | Feb 07 07:21 | |
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| Ender2070 | certain elite families kept exclusive to breed with each other | Feb 07 07:21 |
| Ender2070 | Darwin's own family is an example | Feb 07 07:22 |
| Ender2070 | only bred with Wedgewoods | Feb 07 07:22 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | in K9 the selective breeding was for traits. In nobility is was to keep power and money in royality | Feb 07 07:22 |
| Ender2070 | I think darwin's wife was also his aunt, if im not mistaken | Feb 07 07:22 |
| Ender2070 | chips | Feb 07 07:22 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @wikileaks2 Ransom paid for Canadian diplomats: leaked cable http://bit.ly/hkCAZM !wl // #canada #ifwl !wikileaks | Feb 07 07:23 | |
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| Ender2070 | they knew about traits in animals such as dogs and didn't believe such a thing could be done with people? | Feb 07 07:23 |
| Ender2070 | come on | Feb 07 07:23 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | many countries have class systems | Feb 07 07:24 |
| Ender2070 | i think even plato talked about the fact you could interbreed personality traits | Feb 07 07:24 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | been the goals have been differnet than k9's | Feb 07 07:24 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | its about money and power with humans | Feb 07 07:24 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | a way to pass on power and wealth | Feb 07 07:24 |
| Ender2070 | money and power was a side effect of being born into those families | Feb 07 07:24 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !wikileaks petition: "Sign the petition to stop the crackdown -- let's reach 1 million voices this week!" http://ur1.ca/345e5 | Feb 07 07:25 | |
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| Ender2070 | they would be born with power and wealth even if they didnt follow a eugenics program | Feb 07 07:25 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | being rich to many is being smart. but it is really not the same thing | Feb 07 07:25 |
| MinceR | to most it's inheritance | Feb 07 07:26 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | yes | Feb 07 07:26 |
| Ender2070 | inheritance, and having the free time to do all the studies you want | Feb 07 07:26 |
| Ender2070 | without having to work | Feb 07 07:26 |
| schestowitz | Cycle of poverty... | Feb 07 07:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] David Suzuki: It will take more than rebranding to make tar sands oil “ethical” http://ur1.ca/351xy #canada #tarsand #pollution | Feb 07 07:26 | |
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| Ender2070 | I think such a thing would make some pretty smart people | Feb 07 07:26 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | but its not genetic thing | Feb 07 07:27 |
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| Ender2070 | it wasnt done genetically for brains, it was for the psychopathy trait | Feb 07 07:27 |
| Ender2070 | money, power | Feb 07 07:27 |
| Ender2070 | those are sympoms of psychopathy, which can be bred | Feb 07 07:28 |
| Ender2070 | symptoms | Feb 07 07:28 |
| MinceR | or the capacity is there and the circumstances bring it out | Feb 07 07:28 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | so who has breede supermen? Maybe the Natzi's for just a few years during WW2? Liebunstrem? | Feb 07 07:28 |
| Ender2070 | the various royal families | Feb 07 07:29 |
| Ender2070 | aristrocracy | Feb 07 07:29 |
| schestowitz | [07:28] <Ender2070> those are sympoms of psychopathy, which can be bred | Feb 07 07:29 |
| Ender2070 | just look at the few true owners of some of the biggest companies | Feb 07 07:29 |
| schestowitz | it's not innate | Feb 07 07:29 |
| schestowitz | It comes from the environment | Feb 07 07:29 |
| Ender2070 | bah | Feb 07 07:29 |
| Ender2070 | spare me your hogwash | Feb 07 07:29 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | can't think of anyone else. Royal class only breed to keep power and money, nothing else. | Feb 07 07:29 |
| Ender2070 | you don't have the evidence to convince me | Feb 07 07:29 |
| schestowitz | Those who are surrounded by obese people will likely become obese also due to influences, not just biology | Feb 07 07:29 |
| schestowitz | Say studies (tolerance from peers) | Feb 07 07:29 |
| Ender2070 | say theories | Feb 07 07:30 |
| schestowitz | But there is also an element of greed and sociopathy | Feb 07 07:30 |
| Ender2070 | its all theories | Feb 07 07:30 |
| schestowitz | Ender2070: it can be a bit of both | Feb 07 07:30 |
| MinceR | aristocracy is more about inbreeding than breeding for qualities, unless you mean genetic diseases and deformities :> | Feb 07 07:30 |
| Ender2070 | but go back to plato | Feb 07 07:30 |
| Ender2070 | even he talked about it | Feb 07 07:30 |
| schestowitz | Greed too can be environment-motivated | Feb 07 07:30 |
| Ender2070 | huge coincidence | Feb 07 07:30 |
| Ender2070 | mincer, certain families bred for certain traits | Feb 07 07:31 |
| schestowitz | People who are surrounded by people who measure "success" by $$$ will have a burden to validate themselves this way | Feb 07 07:31 |
| Ender2070 | darwin and wedgewoods for example | Feb 07 07:31 |
| schestowitz | LEAVE DARWIN ALLLLONE! :-) | Feb 07 07:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] Town Hall Asia meeting – Feb. 8th http://bit.ly/gNHJC6 | Feb 07 07:31 | |
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| Ender2070 | you guys are so closed minded its sad | Feb 07 07:31 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Many of the smartest people in this world were never rich | Feb 07 07:31 |
| schestowitz | True | Feb 07 07:31 |
| Ender2070 | you'll believe that animals can have traits that can be bred, and believe we're animals when evolution and darwinism come into it | Feb 07 07:32 |
| schestowitz | Rich people are too busy sipping wine and stomping on people :-) | Feb 07 07:32 |
| Ender2070 | but not when it comes to breeding traits | Feb 07 07:32 |
| Ender2070 | thats not true at all! | Feb 07 07:32 |
| schestowitz | Smart people stick to the lab and the books | Feb 07 07:32 |
| schestowitz | Which makes them obscure | Feb 07 07:32 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | being rich is a value statement, its not everyone goal | Feb 07 07:32 |
| Ender2070 | (forget the entire family lines of cop families) | Feb 07 07:32 |
| schestowitz | That's different | Feb 07 07:32 |
| Ender2070 | prove it with science | Feb 07 07:33 |
| schestowitz | They see the father.. | Feb 07 07:33 |
| Ender2070 | you're thinking of tv shows | Feb 07 07:33 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Good morning !identiverse :) | Feb 07 07:33 | |
| schestowitz | And follow similar path. Same with army. So the violent nasty type will, over time, be fitted into this type of career | Feb 07 07:33 |
| Ender2070 | lots of them show the son rejecting his dads profession | Feb 07 07:33 |
| Ender2070 | its all tv | Feb 07 07:33 |
| Ender2070 | grow a brain | Feb 07 07:33 |
| MinceR | Ender2070: http://redd.it/ffxp5 | Feb 07 07:33 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting type | Feb 07 07:33 |
| schestowitz | Cops who leave the force cause they can't bear the disgust won't have their kids turn that way, either | Feb 07 07:33 |
| Ender2070 | think critically | Feb 07 07:33 |
| schestowitz | It's fitting the opposite direction from what you suggest | Feb 07 07:34 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | why would anyone really want to be a billionarie? That is not about wealth, its about power now, how could you spend that on your personal self? | Feb 07 07:34 |
| schestowitz | People don't breed /for/ something, it's just that they are naturally selected to stick with one direction or another | Feb 07 07:34 |
| Ender2070 | your mind is closed | Feb 07 07:34 |
| Ender2070 | if animals can be bred for traits | Feb 07 07:34 |
| Ender2070 | and humans are animals | Feb 07 07:34 |
| Ender2070 | then? | Feb 07 07:34 |
| schestowitz | But you suggest a conpiracy | Feb 07 07:35 |
| Ender2070 | are you saying we're not animals? or that animals can't be bred for traits? | Feb 07 07:35 |
| schestowitz | other than eugenics | Feb 07 07:35 |
| schestowitz | There's no real conspiracy when one rich person marries another | Feb 07 07:35 |
| Ender2070 | what conspiracy? | Feb 07 07:35 |
| schestowitz | Or when one sociopath looks for another | Feb 07 07:35 |
| schestowitz | Ender2070: conspiring to improve genes in an engineering sense | Feb 07 07:35 |
| Ender2070 | they wanted to keep psychopathy in the blood, because it makes superior people (in their eyes) | Feb 07 07:35 |
| schestowitz | Sure, couples try to make kids to behave certain ways | Feb 07 07:35 |
| Ender2070 | im not talking about genetic engineering | Feb 07 07:36 |
| schestowitz | But there's not so much outside intevention | Feb 07 07:36 |
| schestowitz | not like Ox* > cow | Feb 07 07:36 |
| Ender2070 | wtih genetic engineering you won't need to match pairs | Feb 07 07:36 |
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| Ender2070 | read some of the eugenics material from the time | Feb 07 07:37 |
| Ender2070 | you won't find it in school | Feb 07 07:37 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[kernellogauthor/@kernellogauthor] I wonder if mentioning all the stable and longterm releases here and in the KL is worth the work; these days there are so many of them... | Feb 07 07:38 | |
| Ender2070 | instead of quoting mainstream propaganda | Feb 07 07:38 |
| Ender2070 | we're not all the same, like socialists want | Feb 07 07:38 |
| schestowitz | give me a sample of it | Feb 07 07:39 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | well, I vered off the topic I came here to discuss, which was Nokia. Think you were right a long time ago when Elop like a virus infecte Nokia from the host Micro$oft Roy. | Feb 07 07:39 |
| schestowitz | I did see some stuff about it | Feb 07 07:39 |
| schestowitz | Chips_B_Malroy: I saw that | Feb 07 07:39 |
| schestowitz | When I woke up... | Feb 07 07:39 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | yes | Feb 07 07:39 |
| schestowitz | What some people are missing is: | Feb 07 07:40 |
| schestowitz | 1. Nokia WILL announce a deal with Microsoft, probably this week | Feb 07 07:40 |
| schestowitz | 2. Nokia is also said to be preparing the people who brought Symbian and Meego to the company | Feb 07 07:40 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | but will they also do Android is the question as well? | Feb 07 07:40 |
| schestowitz | Maybe they can hire more sociopaths, selected by sociopaths in Microsoft HP | Feb 07 07:40 |
| schestowitz | *HR | Feb 07 07:41 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | is Elop going to turn Nokia into another loser like Yahoo? | Feb 07 07:41 |
| schestowitz | Nokia's former leader said choosing Android is like peeing in your pants for warmth | Feb 07 07:41 |
| schestowitz | So there's tension between them and Android | Feb 07 07:41 |
| schestowitz | Chips_B_Malroy: probably | Feb 07 07:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] In #Tunisia , Women Play Equal Role In Revolution http://ur1.ca/3521a | Feb 07 07:41 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Feb 07 07:41 |
| schestowitz | Yahoo was in similar situation | Feb 07 07:41 |
| schestowitz | Dying and in point of no return | Feb 07 07:41 |
| schestowitz | So Microsoft tried to squeeze the most juice out of it | Feb 07 07:42 |
| schestowitz | They got their ads and search now | Feb 07 07:42 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft the bully... | Feb 07 07:42 |
| Ender2070 | lol | Feb 07 07:42 |
| Ender2070 | you guys are hilarious | Feb 07 07:42 |
| schestowitz | If Microsoft was a person, it would rape your wife and daughter, then ask you for a licence to live in your house | Feb 07 07:42 |
| Ender2070 | you call me a conspiracy theorist | Feb 07 07:42 |
| schestowitz | Wait and watch... | Feb 07 07:43 |
| Ender2070 | [02:38] <Chips_B_Malroy> well, I vered off the topic I came here to discuss, which was Nokia. Think you were right a long time ago when Elop like a virus infecte Nokia from the host Micro$oft Roy. | Feb 07 07:43 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | "schestowitz> Nokia's former leader said choosing Android is like peeing in your pants for warmth" far better than choosing WP7 which is turning into the next generation of the KIN and soundly rejected by consumers. | Feb 07 07:43 |
| schestowitz | KIN 7 | Feb 07 07:43 |
| schestowitz | Next of Kin | Feb 07 07:43 |
| schestowitz | take that, eugenics :-) | Feb 07 07:43 |
| schestowitz | !techrights eugenics | Feb 07 07:43 |
| schestowitz | !google techrights eugenics | Feb 07 07:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Interesting Message Connects Bill Gates to Eugenics | Techrights | http://techrights.org/2010/08/11/artificial-scarcity-and-population/ | Feb 07 07:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Bill Gates Called a “Strong Eugenicist” | Techrights | http://techrights.org/2010/09/16/death-panel-remark/ | Feb 07 07:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - 2010 October 01 | Techrights | http://techrights.org/2010/10/01/ | Feb 07 07:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Death by Vaccination: The Gates Foundation and the New Eugenics | http://www.vaccineinitiative.org/%3Fp%3D30 | Feb 07 07:43 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | KIN, the Next Generation | Feb 07 07:43 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | WP7, Kin the Next Gernation | Feb 07 07:44 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | if only I could spell without all the typo's | Feb 07 07:44 |
| Ender2070 | [02:39] <schestowitz> What some people are missing is: | Feb 07 07:44 |
| schestowitz | Captains log. We received an inventory of unwanted Vista Phone 7s... | Feb 07 07:44 |
| Ender2070 | [02:39] <schestowitz> 1. Nokia WILL announce a deal with Microsoft, probably this week | Feb 07 07:44 |
| Ender2070 | where are you getting that information | Feb 07 07:44 |
| schestowitz | I'm sure the WP7s found a good homne | Feb 07 07:44 |
| schestowitz | Nobody complains | Feb 07 07:44 |
| schestowitz | The warehouse is happy with them | Feb 07 07:44 |
| schestowitz | Nobody to complain :-) | Feb 07 07:44 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | beam me up Elop | Feb 07 07:45 |
| schestowitz | Ender2070: Engadget | Feb 07 07:45 |
| schestowitz | They made a logo even | Feb 07 07:45 |
| schestowitz | Microkia | Feb 07 07:45 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Nokia, the next Yahoo like company to fade into Novell obsurity. | Feb 07 07:46 |
| Ender2070 | yeah they report on rumors too | Feb 07 07:46 |
| Ender2070 | they even admit it | Feb 07 07:46 |
| Ender2070 | "As Nokia comes up on Capital Markets Day next Friday -- an event where the company has historically unveiled interesting things and launched important initiatives -- rumors are once again swirling that they're going to be announcing a major platform shift by way of a competitor. " | Feb 07 07:46 |
| schestowitz | Ew... press now clamouring over Reagan?? | Feb 07 07:47 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | it happens to all MS partners that become infected with Microsoft products that Redmond cannot sell. | Feb 07 07:47 |
| schestowitz | Is it some anniversary? | Feb 07 07:47 |
| Ender2070 | "This time around, it's said that Microsoft will be the partner announced on the 11th -- and though Nokia's uptake of Windows Phone 7 would be the obvious strategic shift, it's important to note that these companies have actually partnered before with pretty trivial consequences for the market; it's entirely possible they could be ramping up to do that again, sharing apps and services between Windows Phone 7 and Symbian / | Feb 07 07:47 |
| Ender2070 | MeeGo. We doubt it, but it's within the realm of reason." | Feb 07 07:47 |
| Ender2070 | [Citation Needed] | Feb 07 07:47 |
| oiaohm | I would not be too sure. | Feb 07 07:48 |
| Ender2070 | yeah its all rumor | Feb 07 07:48 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Uff! !debian multimedia repo must be getting cained today: 34% [1 w32codecs 9,131 kB/26.7 MB 34%] 25.5 kB/s 11min 27s | Feb 07 07:48 | |
| Ender2070 | even with Elop | Feb 07 07:48 |
| oiaohm | The theme engine of Meego went into lockdown recently. | Feb 07 07:48 |
| Ender2070 | he cant force the shareholders to like it | Feb 07 07:48 |
| schestowitz | If Elop gives Nokia to Microsoft's Ballmer... | Feb 07 07:48 |
| Ender2070 | i doubt he can | Feb 07 07:49 |
| schestowitz | Maybe Ballmer will give his daughter to Elop to spread some sociopathic genes :-) | Feb 07 07:49 |
| schestowitz | /sarcasm | Feb 07 07:49 |
| Ender2070 | perhaps you have some yourself | Feb 07 07:49 |
| Ender2070 | sharing is caring | Feb 07 07:49 |
| schestowitz | it's also credit | Feb 07 07:49 |
| schestowitz | We need a credit system | Feb 07 07:49 |
| schestowitz | Where people are honoured for sharing | Feb 07 07:49 |
| schestowitz | not for hoarding | Feb 07 07:49 |
| schestowitz | Sadly, the PR industry would not like that | Feb 07 07:50 |
| Ender2070 | hoarding lol | Feb 07 07:50 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | It should be noted that Nokia has no real impact on US sales, more that is has only a small impact on smartphones sales at all. Only about 10% of Nokia sales are smartphones sales at all, the rest being so called dumbphones, lower grade (non-internet) cellphone sales. So the real impact of a Nokia/MS deal may not be that impacting at all. | Feb 07 07:50 |
| schestowitz | It's mostly recruited/hired by those who hoard | Feb 07 07:50 |
| Ender2070 | how do you hoard what you earn? | Feb 07 07:50 |
| oiaohm | Chips_B_Malroy: problem nokia has is the android is eating into the dumbphones market | Feb 07 07:50 |
| Ender2070 | im going to bed, you guys are nuts | Feb 07 07:50 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | we try | Feb 07 07:50 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | gn | Feb 07 07:51 |
| Ender2070 | im the conspiracy theorist, who isn't going by rumor or speculation | Feb 07 07:51 |
| Ender2070 | later | Feb 07 07:51 |
| *Ender2070 has quit (Remote host closed the connection) | Feb 07 07:51 | |
| schestowitz | You touch the sensitive subjects... | Feb 07 07:51 |
| schestowitz | He doesn't like to be called conspiracy theorist | Feb 07 07:51 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | speculation is sometimes good | Feb 07 07:51 |
| schestowitz | I once challenged him on one and he got very offended | Feb 07 07:51 |
| schestowitz | Left this channel for weeks | Feb 07 07:51 |
| oiaohm | I normally avoid speculation. | Feb 07 07:52 |
| schestowitz | Chips_B_Malroy: well, it does merit discussion, sure... | Feb 07 07:52 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | oh well, we will soon see what happens with Nokia | Feb 07 07:52 |
| MinceR | he's a troll and a nutcase | Feb 07 07:52 |
| oiaohm | Meego theme engine lock down is interesting. | Feb 07 07:52 |
| schestowitz | Speculation is how the brain works... expectation model. | Feb 07 07:52 |
| oiaohm | Normally what you expect before a release. | Feb 07 07:52 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | I don't think he is a troll | Feb 07 07:52 |
| schestowitz | Meego has good penetrating into cars now, with Intekl | Feb 07 07:53 |
| schestowitz | I don't think MeeGo is a lost cause | Feb 07 07:53 |
| MinceR | read his article where he smears the entire free software community, then. | Feb 07 07:53 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @schestowitz: #wikileaks petition: "Sign the petition to stop the crackdown - let's reach 1 million voices this week!" http://ur1.ca/345e5 | Feb 07 07:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @vasudev: Does The Document Foundation Support OOXML? - http://ur1.ca/351ol #linux #gnu #fsfe #windows #microsoft | Feb 07 07:53 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Avaaz.org - WikiLeaks: Stop the crackdown .::. Size~: 36.07 KB | Feb 07 07:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Does The Document Foundation Support OOXML? | Linux Journal .::. Size~: 54.43 KB | Feb 07 07:53 |
| schestowitz | I hope the Nokia deal will just be some Communicator nonsense | Feb 07 07:53 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | I think it bears watching watch MS is doing to Nokia | Feb 07 07:53 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: you means the Marxist community? :-) | Feb 07 07:53 |
| schestowitz | *mean | Feb 07 07:53 |
| MinceR | i guess that's what he'd call it | Feb 07 07:54 |
| schestowitz | I think he deleted that post | Feb 07 07:55 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] @gbraad Fedora wouldn't install the printer driver for the Canon i70. After 20 m of waitig I had to decide between no ID cards at all or mac | Feb 07 07:55 | |
| schestowitz | His domain also expired | Feb 07 07:55 |
| oiaohm | Even without nokia meego will keep on going forwards just slower. | Feb 07 07:55 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @silner Linuxinsider: Honeycomb's Holography: Hope or Hooey? http://ping.fm/EpAS4 #linux #android | Feb 07 07:56 | |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | Nokia like Yahoo will die much faster if it does a deal with the Next Generation Kin (WP7) Microsoft. | Feb 07 07:56 |
| MinceR | i think i've found it on his new domain | Feb 07 07:56 |
| MinceR | again | Feb 07 07:57 |
| schestowitz | Heh | Feb 07 07:58 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Avem, în sfârșit, Debian Linux 6.0 :) #gnu #linux #microsoft #windows #free #debian #ubuntu #fedora #redhat #rhel #software #romania #open | Feb 07 07:58 | |
| schestowitz | disgruntledcanadian? | Feb 07 07:58 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | http://smarthouse.com.au/Phones/Industry/N9P7K6R2 | Feb 07 07:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Two Lost Souls Nokia & Microsoft Set To Cut A Deal? - Smarthouse .::. Size~: 186.73 KB | Feb 07 07:59 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | "Last week, Nokia shares started to climb on speculation that Microsoft is set to cut an investment deal in an effort to buy their way back into the Smartphone business following news that their new Windows Mobile 7 OS was not a hit with consumers, and that sales had slumped from 4.7 with the old Windows Mobile OS to 2% for their all new Windows Mobile 7 OS." | Feb 07 08:00 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] @gbraad You did notice however that @stephwho is using a lenovo s10-3t to enter and check data, so immigration office is at least 50% Fedora | Feb 07 08:01 | |
| Chips_B_Malroy | 2%, isn't that even a decline by Windows Moble (CE) standards? And Nokia jumping on this KIN like failure just dosen't make any sense or money. | Feb 07 08:02 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | It sounds more like the last grasp of Ballmer trying to spend more money on WP7 to convince the MS board to let him continue to run MS into the ground longer. | Feb 07 08:03 |
| oiaohm | Really Nokia make good quality phones over all. | Feb 07 08:04 |
| oiaohm | So going android would not do Nokia too much harm. | Feb 07 08:04 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | And to top it off, Ballmer spent 500 million on WP7 and it still failed badly. | Feb 07 08:04 |
| oiaohm | Going WP7 that is not good quality could do Nokia harm. | Feb 07 08:05 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | agreed, Nokia should sell some phones with Android instead of WP7. | Feb 07 08:05 |
| schestowitz | [08:04] <Chips_B_Malroy> And to top it off, Ballmer spent 500 million on WP7 and it still failed badly.] | Feb 07 08:10 |
| schestowitz | Just marketin | Feb 07 08:10 |
| schestowitz | !google youtube ballmer advertisera | Feb 07 08:10 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - 5 essential StumbleUpon power points | http://www.blahblahtech.com/2007/08/5-essential-stumbleupon-power-points.html | Feb 07 08:10 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Ken Auletta :: Articles - SEarching for Trouble | http://www.kenauletta.com/2009_10_12_searchingfortrouble.html | Feb 07 08:10 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Facebook ad customer is bad business from bing- The Inquirer | http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1937776/facebook-customer-bad-business-bing | Feb 07 08:10 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Robin Domeniconi's Mission to Simplify Microsoft Ad Sales | ClickZ | http://www.clickz.com/clickz/news/1708731/robin-domeniconis-mission-simplify-microsoft-ad-sales | Feb 07 08:10 |
| schestowitz | !google youtube ballmer advertisers | Feb 07 08:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - YouTube - Ballmer: "advertising, advertising, advertising!" | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DHTkA9L2J2gY | Feb 07 08:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - YouTube - Steve Ballmer: Advertisers, Advertisers, Advertisers | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3Dfj3FOHc-fgA | Feb 07 08:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - YouTube - Ballmer | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DNc4MzqBFxZE | Feb 07 08:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - YouTube - Ballmer sells windows1.0 | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DtGvHNNOLnCk | Feb 07 08:11 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] I've just checked in at Institut für Biochemie und Molekulare Mikrobiologie http://ur1.ca/2q6ve #4sq | Feb 07 08:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @silner I wonder what XP users do about #IPv6? | Feb 07 08:11 | |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | Well, its late here, good night everyone. | Feb 07 08:11 |
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| oiaohm | schestowitz: http://linuxconfau.blip.tv/file/4693088/ This is a interesting one. Turns out in Australian laws anyone selling GPL software without providing source code is basically toast. Person buying can go after them. | Feb 07 08:23 |
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| oiaohm | Wonder if something equal exists where you are schestowitz | Feb 07 08:24 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @harishpillay Village Telco in Dili, Timor Leste - what an inspiration and success of FOSS all over! http://ur1.ca/352a8 | Feb 07 08:25 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/ender2070/status/34521784489488385 | Feb 07 08:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @ender2070: @schestowitz I'm on to you | Feb 07 08:25 |
| schestowitz | huh? | Feb 07 08:25 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @ender2070 no problem, mate | Feb 07 08:26 | |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: ender2070 thinks you are a little fear mongering. | Feb 07 08:27 |
| oiaohm | The nokia wp7 thing. Its a little too soon to tell. | Feb 07 08:27 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: did you see http://jldugger.livejournal.com/41896.html ? | Feb 07 08:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: jldugger: 64-bit really does matter .::. Size~: 51.29 KB | Feb 07 08:27 |
| schestowitz | "I can't say when commercial games will break 3 or 4 GB, but it's coming." | Feb 07 08:28 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Mostly cloudy today in #egypt but the protests go on. People of Egypt are heroes who continue to inspire other countries to demand democracy | Feb 07 08:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @jwildeboer Funny that #FOSDEM is all about FOSS yet promotes only twitter not identi.ca for posting ... | Feb 07 08:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @jwildeboer see http://ur1.ca/34xap | Feb 07 08:33 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @carlopiana Connection was particularly bad at keynote, here's the pic http://ur1.ca/348mw // #fosdem | Feb 07 08:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @jwildeboer did Microsoft give more than one keynote that it paid for (bought)? | Feb 07 08:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[vejeta/@vejeta] ♻ @schestowitz !wikileaks petition: "Sign the petition to stop the crackdown -- let's reach 1 million voices this week!" http://ur1.ca/345e5 | Feb 07 08:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @gbraad RT @roeland #FOSDEM really should be using !identica or !statusnet instead of #twitter | Feb 07 08:35 | |
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| oiaohm | schestowitz: Most game engines are not optimised for 64 bit yet. | Feb 07 08:36 |
| schestowitz | "@themadhatter] @ender2070 Saw this and thought of you - http://bit.ly/dLvmHA" | Feb 07 08:36 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Cool! Got my Planet sorted out. Finally accepting stupid hosted wordpress feeds. | Feb 07 08:36 | |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: Also needing 2 to 4 gb could stay that way for a long time to come. | Feb 07 08:36 |
| oiaohm | People forget video card memory can be used to do a nasty form of PAE as well. | Feb 07 08:37 |
| oiaohm | Ie insert a bigger video card with more ram. | Feb 07 08:37 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @debian: The official Debian FAQ has been updated to reflect squeeze's release.... | Feb 07 08:40 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] How To Stop Domain Names Being Seized By The US Government http://ur1.ca/34ger can Zimbabwe also take down domains at will? Why not? | Feb 07 08:41 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: How To Stop Domain Names Being Seized By The US Government | TorrentFreak .::. Size~: 41.06 KB | Feb 07 08:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[marjoleink/@marjoleink] RD @schestowitz !wikileaks petition: "Sign the petition to stop the crackdown - let's reach 1 million voices this week!" http://ur1.ca/345e5 | Feb 07 08:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Is it not unlawful & unconstitutional to criminalise without due process? Signs of rogue states when authority operates outside scope of law | Feb 07 08:43 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Avaaz.org - WikiLeaks: Stop the crackdown .::. Size~: 36.07 KB | Feb 07 08:43 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] If !wikileaks is illegal, then so is your government-appointed watchdog agency that your tax money pays for. | Feb 07 08:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺@satipera Cameron echoes Merkel,multiculturism is a failure and calls for stronger British identity.Union Jack tee shirts for everyone then | Feb 07 08:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @satipera exceptionalism is not just an American thing then. See this new video http://ur1.ca/352fg (later part) | Feb 07 08:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @thistleweb @satipera would everyone report to their local tattoo parlour to have their patriotism marked | Feb 07 08:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @satipera @thistleweb It makes me wonder what the decision process was that led to Cameron making such a statement. | Feb 07 08:48 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @arnebab “Why Political Liberty Depends on Software Freedom More Than Ever”, Eben Moglen !ogg #stream 01: is.gd/6LaNbJ | Feb 07 08:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Spying On Surfing: Why We Need a "Do Not Track" List http://ur1.ca/2vr42 one US paper associated the #ACLU with terrorism.Patriotism=terror? | Feb 07 08:51 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Patriotism means defending particular values, the opposite of blind following of leaders who violate these values. #egypt #autocracy | Feb 07 08:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @wikileaks2 RT: @JPBarlow "We have reached a point in our history where lies are protected speech and the truth is criminal." !wl | Feb 07 08:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] First Transmediale Open Web Award http://bit.ly/ehS4Go | Feb 07 08:53 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] No progress is *ever* made by obeying those in power. Only those who challenge the law ever achieve anything notable. #DissentIsDemocracy | Feb 07 08:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !WikiLeaks cables: Thailand's royal pet http://ur1.ca/34a3m thank The Telegraph for legitimising #wikileaks | Feb 07 08:56 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @joabj Regex: Encompassing your needs with parentheses (blog): http://ur1.ca/352hk | Feb 07 08:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Hackers Penetrate Nasdaq's Computers (WSJ) http://on.wsj.com/eQold8 the machines that help make money out of nothing | Feb 07 08:58 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Regex: Encompassing your needs with parentheses « Technical Notebook .::. Size~: 7.1 KB | Feb 07 08:58 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !wikileaks has gone through almost 2% of the #cablegate material now (over 98% left). All redacted and searchable at http://cablesearch.org/ | Feb 07 09:00 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] At the current pace, !wikileaks can publish truth for another _decade_, hopefully decimating the corporate press in the process. | Feb 07 09:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The Telegraph (UK) did good by embracing Wikileaks, which ought to assure it will attract people who are interested in raw truth. !wl | Feb 07 09:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @TonyClement_MP Hmmm. Air Canada issued 2 boarding passes for my seat. Confusion ensues. The pilot seems to have his act together though | Feb 07 09:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !wl Cables: UK dismissive of 'numbskull' Zardari http://ur1.ca/352jb behind every cocky politician there may be a sociopath. Ask #Clinton .. | Feb 07 09:05 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @PreemptDissent: MT @karimmarold Protesters charging phones: http://yfrog.com/h4qeebnj #tahreer #jan25 #egypt (via @carmelva) | Feb 07 09:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @simonm223: RT @ThePinebox: What's hapnin in #Egypt is so not an Islamist uprising it begs question y West media & gov keep brngng it up. | Feb 07 09:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @themadhatter @wikileaks Cuban Economy? Thought that was Egyptian economy. 2+2=3 after Mubarak gets his cut. #Jan25 | Feb 07 09:06 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !wikileaks : "THE END OF THE "PAPA" STATE IN CUBA? THE GOC TELLS" http://ur1.ca/352jp #cuba | Feb 07 09:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #XKCD: Archimedes - http://xkcd.com/857/ | Feb 07 09:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] Governance Benchmark Available: My article establishing an open-by-rule benchmark for checking the governance of... http://wmk.me/dQnOq5 | Feb 07 09:08 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "BAGHDAD ZOO" http://ur1.ca/352kg "local schools have stopped sending student groups to the Zoo -- a regular practice before the war began." | Feb 07 09:10 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !wikileaks has begun aiming at #cuba (see http://ur1.ca/352kv http://ur1.ca/352kx for more examples), most searched for is "poland" though | Feb 07 09:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "UK CONSIDERING ENGAGEMENT WITH #HIZBALLAH MINISTER" http://ur1.ca/352ld !wikileaks | Feb 07 09:11 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @wikileaks2 Cable: 'Talk of Ousting Brown Reaching Fever Pitch' http://alturl.com/h2vkj !wl | Feb 07 09:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @wikileaks2 Cable: 'UK confused by US policy on Somalia' http://alturl.com/ycjn5 !wl // #uk #Somalia #cablegate | Feb 07 09:13 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Huffington Post to be sold to AOL for $315m in surprise move - http://bit.ly/gxeKXT #AOL tries to buy success...again #huffpo #newspapers | Feb 07 09:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] It's monday... :( | Feb 07 09:15 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Huffington Post to be sold to AOL for $315m | Richard Adams | Media | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 208.7 KB | Feb 07 09:15 |
| MinceR | geekings | Feb 07 09:15 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Anonymous Hackers Pay Back FBI Snitch with 50,000 Leaked Emails - http://bit.ly/dRKYEl the boy who kicked the hornet's nest... | Feb 07 09:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #Launchpad Blog: do you think bug search should match target names? http://goo.gl/Rzugq | Feb 07 09:16 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Anonymous Hackers Pay Back FBI Snitch with 50,000 Leaked Emails .::. Size~: 99.77 KB | Feb 07 09:16 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @wikileaks2 Cable: UK FCO Deputy Head Chris Holtby is US informant http://alturl.com/c5x73 !wl // #cablegate #informant #uk #us | Feb 07 09:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @glynmoody Huffington Post to be sold to AOL for $315m in surprise move - http://bit.ly/gxeKXT #AOL tries to buy success...again #huffpo | Feb 07 09:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @glynmoody #Anonymous Hackers Pay Back FBI Snitch with 50,000 Leaked Emails - http://bit.ly/dRKYEl the boy who kicked the hornet's nest... | Feb 07 09:18 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Cable Viewer .::. Size~: 53.41 KB | Feb 07 09:18 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Huffington Post to be sold to AOL for $315m | Richard Adams | Media | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 213.5 KB | Feb 07 09:18 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Anonymous Hackers Pay Back FBI Snitch with 50,000 Leaked Emails .::. Size~: 99.77 KB | Feb 07 09:18 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Watch out for people penetrating more groups that are seen as promoting civil disobedience. http://ur1.ca/352nn | Feb 07 09:21 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: tao : security : general security : bugs, taps and infiltrators .::. Size~: 22.66 KB | Feb 07 09:21 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @MeeGoExperts: #TwimGo 2.6.1 files for #Symbian and #Maemo http://mge.bz/2L #Nokia #N900 | Feb 07 09:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @thp4 #N900 blurless desaturation and single-/two-column switcher now configurable via transitions.ini+merged into the Community SSU :) | Feb 07 09:23 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: TwimGo – TwimGo .::. Size~: 30.07 KB | Feb 07 09:23 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/fcassia/status/34538003351339008 | Feb 07 09:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @fcassia: @schestowitz speaking of Nasdaq, I really like the expression "the Stock Markets Casino" | Feb 07 09:23 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/63887013 | Feb 07 09:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Dr. Roy Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Monday, 07-Feb-11 09:22:38 UTC - Identi.ca: @fcassia at least with casino nobody except the business owner is expected to win. In FraudStrt, those with inside information loot the rest | Feb 07 09:23 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @wikileaks2 Cable: UK won't egage with Hamas, will with Hizballah http://alturl.com/iv6mk !wl | Feb 07 09:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @fiistudent: Recomandăm articolul "Let’s Write a #Linux Daemon": http://narcissisticme.com/?p=96 #programare #programming | Feb 07 09:30 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @stefanmanea: Dupa extensiile de .png .psd Adobe urmeaza sa lanseze pentru romania .pnl .unpr si .pdl :))) ...sunt tratative pentru .boc | Feb 07 09:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Murdoch vs AJ [IMG] http://ur1.ca/352pw | Feb 07 09:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @MCSIRomania: Bugetul anual pentru achizitii IT: 68 de euro pe cap de locuitor http://bit.ly/e75MFP #romania | Feb 07 09:31 | |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Bugetul anual pentru achizitii IT: 68 de euro pe cap de locuitor | It&C .::. Size~: 89.67 KB | Feb 07 09:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] UK Councillor arrested over online comment claims - http://bit.ly/fzZvzi what??? (v @DavidAllenGreen @copwatcher) #authoritarianism | Feb 07 09:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #DistroWatch Weekly, Issue 391 has been released. This week's feature story: First impressions of #SalineOS 1.0 http://goo.gl/IVvnP | Feb 07 09:33 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Councillor Geoff Lilley arrested over comment claims (From The Northern Echo) .::. Size~: 40.08 KB | Feb 07 09:33 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: DistroWatch.com: Put the fun back into computing. Use Linux, BSD. .::. Size~: 102.37 KB | Feb 07 09:33 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Physics gets more personal: new# video abstracts in New Journal of Physics - http://bit.ly/i5w6jV innovative move from #openaccess title | Feb 07 09:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Yemen - Yemen President Handpicked Winning Contractor http://ur1.ca/352rc !wikileaks #ifwl | Feb 07 09:35 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Physics gets more personal: new video abstracts in New Journal of Physics .::. Size~: 14.48 KB | Feb 07 09:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Yemen President Handpicked Winning Contractor .::. Size~: 48.95 KB | Feb 07 09:35 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Jordan - Jordanian budget spent on "bloated" civil service and a military "patronage system" http://ur1.ca/352rk !wikileaks #militarism | Feb 07 09:36 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Naomi Wolf: !WikiLeaks , Revolution, and.. Journalism http://ur1.ca/352s8 "cravenness represents one of American journalism's darkest hours" | Feb 07 09:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[docufoundation/@docufoundation] RT @floeff German LibreOffice Project's Weekend - let us know when you have time! http://moreganize.ch/bKs0sc00eRd !libo !tdf | Feb 07 09:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The Huff & Puff (HuffPo) is passing from the hands of Oil Giants (Huffingtons) to corporate nationalist giants (AOL) #pressCorporatisation | Feb 07 09:40 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Naomi Wolf: WikiLeaks, Revolution, and the Lost Cojones of American Journalism .::. Size~: 294.94 KB | Feb 07 09:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: LibreOffice Projektwochenende .::. Size~: 27.13 KB | Feb 07 09:40 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Still wearing my orange "I support the open web" bracelet from Mozilla this morning. Got it at #FOSDEM. | Feb 07 09:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] If news is treated as a product that can be sold (a la Huff & Puff), then it's not journalism, it's PR. And it sure looks that way. | Feb 07 09:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] If the goal of newspapers is to sell papers rather than report accurately, why are people surprised that the 'mainstream press' deceives? | Feb 07 09:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Caught: Is This Man A Shill For CCTV’s Spring Festival Gala? - http://bit.ly/dVikKb lovely bit of detective work #china | Feb 07 09:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The corporate press -- as Pilger calls it -- is designed to attract advertisers. That's beside the point of news. | Feb 07 09:43 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Caught: Is This Man A Shill For CCTV’s Spring Festival Gala? – chinaSMACK .::. Size~: 90.05 KB | Feb 07 09:43 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !Blender Artists Down to work on some technical issues http://ow.ly/3RtxO | Feb 07 09:48 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] #Canonical And #Cisco Welcome OpenStack’s Bexar Releases | eWEEK Europe UK http://ow.ly/3RtBo #OpenStack | Feb 07 09:50 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Canonical And Cisco Welcome OpenStack’s Bexar Releases | eWEEK Europe UK .::. Size~: 32.11 KB | Feb 07 09:50 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jwildeboer being busy immigrating people to #UTNR at #FOSDEM: http://outl.ws/f8ZC5s !lo | Feb 07 09:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !Google opens !Android web store | Smarter Shopping | Coffs Coast Advocate http://ow.ly/3RtJn | Feb 07 09:55 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: nicu - a window to my sucky life: Transnational Republic .::. Size~: 103.47 KB | Feb 07 09:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Google opens Android web store | Smarter Shopping | Coffs Coast Advocate .::. Size~: 65.43 KB | Feb 07 09:55 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nisshh/@nisshh] Been chatting on !irc for the last couple of hours since my net got shaped coz i went over #boredshitless | Feb 07 09:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Microsoft seeks inclusion after open source mandate - Strategy - Business - News - iTnews.com.au http://ping.fm/lLQja | Feb 07 09:58 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Error processing the URL: HTTP/1.1 301 Moved Permanently | Feb 07 09:58 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @JPBarlow: Wikileaks is the first battleground of the Great Infowar. The Arab Awakening is the second. There will be more. !wl | Feb 07 10:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @forteller Correct link: !WikiLeaks Cables Reveal U.S. Sought to Retaliate Against Europe over Monsanto GM Crops http://pnt.me/CoLVqh | Feb 07 10:03 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: WikiLeaks Cables Reveal U.S. Sought to Retaliate Against Europe over Monsanto GM Crops .::. Size~: 58.46 KB | Feb 07 10:03 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] IMHO #Egypt is a revolution of ideas, not ego. People are standing up for a better Egypt, not for a better president. I admire that. | Feb 07 10:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] .@georgzoche http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/2011/02/transnational-republic.html :-) | Feb 07 10:06 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: nicu - a window to my sucky life: Transnational Republic .::. Size~: 103.47 KB | Feb 07 10:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] How #Google removed the muzzle on #Twitter in #Egypt http://ur1.ca/3530o #freespeech | Feb 07 10:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @grep FREEDOM LOADING ███████████████████░ 99% [ Error : Please remove Mubarak and try again ! | Feb 07 10:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] #FOSDEM recap: A cool #LibreOffice hoodie. A busy transnational immigration office. A perfect #l33tm33t. Very busy atmosphere. Exhausted. | Feb 07 10:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @jwildeboer IMHO #Egypt is a revolution of ideas, not ego. People are standing up for a better Egypt, not for a better president.... | Feb 07 10:08 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: How Google Removed The Muzzle On Twitter In Egypt ≈ Packet Storm .::. Size~: 2.95 KB | Feb 07 10:08 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jwildeboer/status/34552001618518016 | Feb 07 10:09 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @jwildeboer: @schestowitz at #FOSDEM you never see the sponsors in action. They keep that ceanly separated. So didn't saw MSFT at all. | Feb 07 10:09 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "No one is free until anyone's free" http://ur1.ca/35313 !wikileaks #JuiceMedia | Feb 07 10:10 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: YouTube - Impromptu Robert Foster performance at the Free Julian Assange Rally in Melbourne on 10 Dec. 2010 .::. Size~: 128.68 KB | Feb 07 10:10 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] SIX Cops Beating The Crap Out Of Underage Teen Caught On Video http://ur1.ca/3531h proud of those cops who protect us /sarcasm | Feb 07 10:11 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: YouTube - SIX Cops Beating The Crap Out Of Underage Teen Caught On Video .::. Size~: 132.39 KB | Feb 07 10:11 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Super Cool Android 3.0 Powered Motorola XOOM Video Ad http://ur1.ca/3531x #linux #motorola #XOOM | Feb 07 10:15 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Super Cool Android 3.0 Powered Motorola XOOM Video Ad | Tech Drive-in .::. Size~: 43.34 KB | Feb 07 10:15 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Honeycomb promises to hot up tablet PC race http://ur1.ca/3532s #linux #tablet | Feb 07 10:16 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The Hindu : Sci-Tech : Honeycomb promises to hot up tablet PC race .::. Size~: 41.51 KB | Feb 07 10:16 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #G20 abuse: What about the others? http://ur1.ca/34i4g #police #canada #aggression #toronto | Feb 07 10:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @thistleweb #FOSS release parties will ALWAYS have one thing #Win7 doesn't; they're REAL, by REAL people with a REAL passion for thei ... | Feb 07 10:20 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: G20 abuse: What about the others? - thestar.com .::. Size~: 86.51 KB | Feb 07 10:20 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jwildeboer/status/34554469656039424 | Feb 07 10:26 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @jwildeboer: @schestowitz I didn't attend any session. Only saw Moglen keynote. So cannot be of much help. Did notice however some ORCL peeps. | Feb 07 10:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @laurelrusswurm New !StopUBB post: UBB NOT Overturned http://ur1.ca/3535l | Feb 07 10:26 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: UBB NOT Overturned « Stop Usage Based Billing .::. Size~: 62.06 KB | Feb 07 10:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @jwildeboer I heard they have Jan clones. They call them Unbreakable Jan and they are made of steel. | Feb 07 10:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @grep FREEDOM LOADING ███████████████████░ 99% [ Error : Please remove Mubarak and try again! | Feb 07 10:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @openbytes Just reading some !microsoft !mvp "interviews"....its comical stuff (and rather tragic) ....buzzwords and MS PR abound! | Feb 07 10:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @openbytes think some of these interviews are going to have to be quoted on the next !TechBytes show,theres some cracking comical comments | Feb 07 10:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] There will hopefully be a new episode of !techbytes tonight; @openbytes - I need to speak to you about http://ur1.ca/352rq | Feb 07 10:30 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Anonymous Hackers Pay Back FBI Snitch with 50,000 Leaked Emails .::. Size~: 99.77 KB | Feb 07 10:30 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @wikileaks2 New cables released for India, Pakistan, UK, Tajikistan, Saudi Arabia, Malawi, Botswana, Gambia, Libya http://is.gd/n7y2tT !wl | Feb 07 10:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @aliquando: Thank you to all #Debian developers and maintainers for #Squeeze! | Feb 07 10:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @grep FREEDOM LOADING ███████████████████░ 99% [ Error : Please remove Mubarak and try again! | Feb 07 10:31 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Raphaël Hertzog: !Debian 6.0 is out, Wheezy kicks off http://goo.gl/MDcU1 | Feb 07 10:35 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Debian 6.0 is out, Wheezy kicks off | apt-get install debian-wizard .::. Size~: 48.94 KB | Feb 07 10:35 |
| *Judas_PhD (~kevin@misterfluffy.dsl.xmission.com) has joined #techrights | Feb 07 10:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] ♻ @planetfedora Jose M Manimala: Natural State Theory of Neural Networks?: I was sitting at church when it hit me... http://bit.ly/hCBM6F | Feb 07 10:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @rrix "KDE Plasma Workspaces and KDE Applications 4.4.5" Wow, #debian 6 was released today and is already obsolete. << not more *stable*? | Feb 07 10:36 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Natural State Theory of Neural Networks? .::. Size~: 19.43 KB | Feb 07 10:36 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @rrix I think they go with what's safe. It's Debian. Give 'em a break :-) | Feb 07 10:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Quoth the @guardian: #Mubarak to seek refuge in #Germany? http://gu.com/p/2nvb9/tw #jan25 | Feb 07 10:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @lnxwalt140 thanks for the link to "Al Green - Im still in love with you" | Feb 07 10:38 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Egypt protests - Monday 7 February | News | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 254.46 KB | Feb 07 10:38 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @silner Quoth the @guardian: #Mubarak to seek refuge in #Germany? http://gu.com/p/2nvb9/tw #jan25 | Feb 07 10:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks/@wikileaks] wikileaks: Yemeni gov held 28 in prison on behalf of US despite “no evidence they were involved in terrorism” ht... http://bit.ly/hxQwC5 | Feb 07 10:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks/@wikileaks] wikileaks: Wikileaks news update http://wlcentral.org/ http://bit.ly/e8yPJ3 | Feb 07 10:40 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Egypt protests - Monday 7 February | News | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 254.44 KB | Feb 07 10:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Twitter / WikiLeaks: Yemeni gov held 28 in pris ... .::. Size~: 13.06 KB | Feb 07 10:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: WL Central | WikiLeaks news, analysis and action .::. Size~: 82.7 KB | Feb 07 10:40 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The Guardian uses the term "anti-government protester" rather than "pro-democracy representative".The government is "anti-people autocracy". | Feb 07 10:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @FreedomWarORG #Egypt unarmed protestors shot dead in back streets of #Alexandria #Feb5 http://ur1.ca/34htx #jan25 #worldwalkoutday | Feb 07 10:45 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: YouTube - شبكه الرصد الاخباريه :: اغتيال متظاهر .::. Size~: 130.2 KB | Feb 07 10:45 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @laurelrusswurm Great post by @jkoblovsky on !UBB "Usage Based Billing Showdown" http://ur1.ca/34i1g !StopUBB | Feb 07 10:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] Aaron Bockover Leaves Novell http://lxnews.org/2011/02/07/aaron-bockover-leaves-novell/ | Feb 07 10:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @laurelrusswurm your fight against Unbelievable Business Baloney (UBB) helps squash a dangerous precedence for all countries, so keep at it. | Feb 07 10:46 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Jason Koblovsky - Independent Journalist: Usage Based Billing Showdown .::. Size~: 70.02 KB | Feb 07 10:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Aaron Bockover Leaves Novell .::. Size~: 26.58 KB | Feb 07 10:46 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @lxnews: Aaron Bockover Leaves Novell http://lxnews.org/2011/02/07/aaron-bockover-leaves-novell/ !lo | Feb 07 10:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @Asher_Wolf RT @piratepartyau: Simon's speech from today's #Wikileaks rally in Sydney || http://bit.ly/gl1Mvg #opengov #pirateparty | Feb 07 10:48 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Aaron Bockover Leaves Novell .::. Size~: 26.58 KB | Feb 07 10:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Simon's Speech from the February 6 Demonstration | Pirate Party Australia .::. Size~: 17.15 KB | Feb 07 10:48 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !wikileaks relays corrections to deceiving news years or decades after people were deceived. #FOI can help fix the present. #transparency | Feb 07 10:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !Wikileaks cannot undo unjust wars that took place in the past,but it can help people become more sceptical about politicians' claims. #ifwl | Feb 07 10:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @satipera Christian on the telly talking about "atheist fundementalism" <<@satipera watch this new video from Saturday http://ur1.ca/353bl | Feb 07 10:53 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: YouTube - The Hopelessness of Atheism .::. Size~: 137.94 KB | Feb 07 10:53 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @laurelrusswurm @themadhatter @qu1j0t3 @trmanco and other Canadians from identi.ca help reverse abuses that stem from there, e.g. #G20 #UBB | Feb 07 10:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @laurelrusswurm @satipera Since when is there atheist fundamentalists?Since when is there any "dogma"to atheism aside from being god free? | Feb 07 10:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] ♺ @wikileaks2 New cables released for India, Pakistan, UK, Tajikistan, Saudi Arabia, Malawi, Botswana, Gambia, Libya http://is.gd/n7y2tT !wl | Feb 07 10:55 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Feb 07 10:55 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @laurelrusswurm @satipera this whole word, "atheist", is ridiculous. It's like characterising people as "non-stamp collectors". | Feb 07 10:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Working on the !LO content we recorded at #FOSDEM. | Feb 07 10:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @satipera @laurelrusswurm I just want to see an end of special privileged treatment for religious groups. <<chiros wanted this protection | Feb 07 10:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @satipera @laurelrusswurm many self-serving cults 'religion-washed' themselves to get govt.-backed immunity from criticism. It's a loophole. | Feb 07 10:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @laurelrusswurm RD @poissonjensen ♺ @MichaelLee2009 War criminal GW Bush cancels trip to #Switzerland to avoid arrest http://ur1.ca/34ido | Feb 07 11:00 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] TonyB might have to rethink his next skiing vacation. Did he attend #wef in Davos? | Feb 07 11:00 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Did Bush Cancel Trip to Switzerland to Avoid Possible Torture Inquiry? Looks That Way. | BuzzFlash.org .::. Size~: 23.41 KB | Feb 07 11:00 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/namorix2/status/34565969342898176 | Feb 07 11:00 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @namorix2: @schestowitz @satipera seems they have a problem finding new names for "enemy" | Feb 07 11:00 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Microsoft seeks inclusion after open source mandate - http://bit.ly/gNOxNX #microsoft tries to cuddle up closer to #opensource #au | Feb 07 11:03 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @mako Posted a little back of the envelope analysis of editor-to-reader ratios on Wikipedia. http://ur1.ca/34iv4 | Feb 07 11:05 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Editor-to-Reader Ratios on Wikipedia :: Copyrighteous .::. Size~: 20.21 KB | Feb 07 11:05 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @gbraad @rrix is this the Meat Miracle you kept talking about? http://ur1.ca/353gf #LOL !OnlyInChina | Feb 07 11:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #UK #Cyberwar - or UK Cyberwallies? - http://bit.ly/hzVMTl how to safeguard government computers without spending £650million #security | Feb 07 11:06 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Meat miracle | Flickr - Photo Sharing! .::. Size~: 93.73 KB | Feb 07 11:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: UK Cyberwar - or UK Cyberwallies? - Open Enterprise .::. Size~: 62.82 KB | Feb 07 11:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Building the latest Gnome Shell version for testing... | Feb 07 11:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] David Guetta: The Way To Beat '#Piracy' Is To Give Your Music Away Free - http://bit.ly/gmkix3 another one gets it #abundance #scarcity | Feb 07 11:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @qu1j0t3 your good friend Arianna made a killing just now. Will it be AOL's just to amplify Fox|Koch now? | Feb 07 11:10 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: David Guetta: The Way To Beat 'Piracy' Is To Give Your Music Away Free | Techdirt .::. Size~: 35.65 KB | Feb 07 11:10 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @comzeradd Troika, from left to right: !Debian, !Fedora, !Opensuse Project Leaders http://twitpic.com/3x338b !fosdem | Feb 07 11:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @bugabundo #Debian 6 release Party photos by #PortoLinux at #linuxkafe http://post.ly/1aFIk | Feb 07 11:13 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @zack: @fabsh: fwiw, the interview with you and @methoddan has been one of the most entertaining ever for me. #kudos | Feb 07 11:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #MPAA Snags Google Downloading Torrents, Threatens to Disconnect http://ur1.ca/353io who owns the Internet? Google or the #MAFIAA of labels? | Feb 07 11:15 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: MPAA Snags Google Downloading Torrents, Threatens to Disconnect | TorrentFreak .::. Size~: 41.82 KB | Feb 07 11:15 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @glynmoody re "Braille Watch" - watches are one-way interaction, unlike elevators, so can use sound cues | Feb 07 11:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @glynmoody GM crops to be allowed into Britain under controversial EU plans - http://bit.ly/eCsFUQ cynical trickery #gm #eu | Feb 07 11:20 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: GM crops to be allowed into Britain under controversial EU plans | Environment | The Observer .::. Size~: 98.18 KB | Feb 07 11:20 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Financial Times reveals Anonymous hierarchy http://ur1.ca/353lc "I'm as mad as Hell and I'm not gonna take it anymore..." | Feb 07 11:23 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: p2pnet news » Blog Archive » Financial Times reveals Anonymous hierarchy .::. Size~: 56.01 KB | Feb 07 11:23 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Egyptian police use #Facebook and #Twitter to track down protesters' names before 'rounding them up' http://ur1.ca/34wit same as in "West" | Feb 07 11:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Democracy activists in #egypt would be safer if they used identi.ca | Feb 07 11:25 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Egypt protests: Police use Facebook and Twitter to track down protesters | Mail Online .::. Size~: 77.16 KB | Feb 07 11:25 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] A few years back, NY man was arrested for instructing protesters in Twitter. DOJ also requests data on Wikileaks people from Twitter. #spy | Feb 07 11:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @felipeborges !WikiLeaks revealed allegations of USA troops abusing Iraqi prisoners even after Abu Ghraib. http://goo.gl/c3TmP | Feb 07 11:30 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Allegations of prisoner abuse by US troops after Abu Ghraib | Iraq War Logs .::. Size~: 33.33 KB | Feb 07 11:30 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/34572115332177920 | Feb 07 11:34 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @glynmoody: @schestowitz true, but that's slightly more intrusive | Feb 07 11:34 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 250,000 Stolen #Facebook Profiles Become Dating Site http://ur1.ca/353od that's how #Zuckerberg got started too -- scraping profiles! | Feb 07 11:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @glynmoody yes, I thought so too. Just yesterday I watched the Braille in a lift I took. | Feb 07 11:35 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: 250,000 Stolen Facebook Profiles Become Dating Site - Instant Fundas .::. Size~: 52.66 KB | Feb 07 11:35 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Facebook is a meet [sic] market, Identica is for engaging in conversations around ideas. E-mail is growing ever more deprecated. | Feb 07 11:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @forteller I love this idea! Host a fundraising dinner at your house, in support of !WikiLeaks. http://ur1.ca/34tw9 | Feb 07 11:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @themadhatter RT @thistleweb: ♺ @mxc: I always thought the superbowl was some kind of toilet. << it is, but not in the literal sense :-) | Feb 07 11:38 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Feb 07 11:38 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @themadhatter What's really going on in #Egypt #Jan25 http://bit.ly/dYOxaM | Feb 07 11:41 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The Egyptian democracy proponents have won not just for #Egypt - they helped scare a lot of world leaders, changing their behaviour. #Jan25 | Feb 07 11:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Hmm..... Colours in IdentiCurse. Nice! :) | Feb 07 11:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] If the several new reports about #mubarak seeking refuge in another country are true, then it's over for him already. #egypt | Feb 07 11:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Wow. I had forgotten how long it takes to build gtk3. Oo | Feb 07 11:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @wildcard RT @iosefward @tomsky "I love the smell of burning zombies in the morning. It smells like victory" | Feb 07 11:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @Falkvinge: Documents, authenticity unconfirmed, state that Mubarak has gold assets of USD 620 billion abroad http://301.se/9Xu #egypt | Feb 07 11:46 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Golden mirrors | We Rebuild Interfax .::. Size~: 22.73 KB | Feb 07 11:46 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] New Mexico Bill Seeks to Protect Anti-Science Education http://ur1.ca/353sx Arabs were world leaders too until this happened (centuries ago) | Feb 07 11:50 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: New Mexico Bill Seeks to Protect Anti-Science Education | Wired Science | Wired.com .::. Size~: 464.29 KB | Feb 07 11:50 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Reports say #Mubarak may be worth x10 what Slim (~richest known) is worth. I once heard that UAE royals have 100s of billions hidden too. | Feb 07 11:51 | |
| *gnufreex (~quassel@109-92-36-4.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs) has joined #techrights | Feb 07 11:53 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jsalsman/status/34575832131305472 | Feb 07 11:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @jsalsman: @schestowitz why is that? | Feb 07 11:54 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @schestowitz US Behind Swedish Internet Surveillance: #Cablegate http://ur1.ca/351n5 !wikileaks | Feb 07 11:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @diablod3 BofA to pay $410 million in overdraft bullshit... so what about the $410 billion they've stolen otherwise? http://ur1.ca/34xvz | Feb 07 11:55 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: US Behind Swedish Internet Surveillance: Cablegate .::. Size~: 71.76 KB | Feb 07 11:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: BofA to Pay $410 Million in Overdraft Fee Case - ABC News .::. Size~: 76.58 KB | Feb 07 11:55 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] .@jsalsman the spies are focused on the 'big' sites like twitter&facebook & may overlook identica.Their tools might not adapt to another API | Feb 07 11:56 | |
| gnufreex | Microsoft troll comes back with more FUD against nokia... http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/02/07/nokia_definnification/ | Feb 07 11:57 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Nokia boss 'plans Great Purge' • The Register .::. Size~: 21.37 KB | Feb 07 11:57 |
| gnufreex | notice this time disabled coments, because last two times nobody beleived that Nokia will use WP7. FUD doesn't work when it is refuted in comments. FOSSpatents knows that. | Feb 07 11:58 |
| schestowitz | Disabled comments? | Feb 07 11:59 |
| schestowitz | Must be Andrew | Feb 07 11:59 |
| schestowitz | He's doing that a lot | Feb 07 11:59 |
| gnufreex | Yeah | Feb 07 11:59 |
| schestowitz | I checked the last time | Feb 07 11:59 |
| schestowitz | And saw he didn't block it | Feb 07 11:59 |
| schestowitz | Orlwski is scum | Feb 07 12:00 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 'US will want Assange extradited for crimes they're inventing now' http://ur1.ca/353w2 SpreadDemocracy{tm} is contagious. #sweden !wikileaks | Feb 07 12:00 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: YouTube - 'US will want Assange extradited for crimes they're inventing now' .::. Size~: 150.56 KB | Feb 07 12:00 |
| schestowitz | you can search TR site on his name for some examples | Feb 07 12:00 |
| gnufreex | Here is last article with enable comments http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/02/06/android_takes_top_spot/ | Feb 07 12:00 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Android's on top – will Nokia and RIM let it in? • The Register .::. Size~: 25.81 KB | Feb 07 12:00 |
| schestowitz | I usually ignore all his articles on purpose | Feb 07 12:00 |
| gnufreex | Anonimous | Feb 07 12:00 |
| schestowitz | gnufreex: what I remembers... | Feb 07 12:00 |
| schestowitz | *ed | Feb 07 12:00 |
| schestowitz | Odd... | Feb 07 12:00 |
| schestowitz | Red doesn't anonymise | Feb 07 12:00 |
| schestowitz | I'd just ignore him, still | Feb 07 12:02 |
| schestowitz | His stuff never deserved attention | Feb 07 12:02 |
| schestowitz | He mocks anything freedom | Feb 07 12:02 |
| schestowitz | he is STRONGLY PRO-MAFIAA | Feb 07 12:02 |
| gnufreex | This last article might be truth, though. | Feb 07 12:02 |
| gnufreex | It doesn't talk about WP7 and Microsoft, for a change. | Feb 07 12:03 |
| schestowitz | Why no comments | Feb 07 12:03 |
| schestowitz | Truly mysterious | Feb 07 12:03 |
| schestowitz | People blast him for the BS | Feb 07 12:03 |
| schestowitz | So he knows he talks BS maybe | Feb 07 12:03 |
| schestowitz | That's when he would block feedback | Feb 07 12:03 |
| gnufreex | He offten disables comments. | Feb 07 12:03 |
| schestowitz | And in any case, I was referring to the older articles before | Feb 07 12:03 |
| gnufreex | Usualy on most trollish articles. | Feb 07 12:03 |
| schestowitz | BTW | Feb 07 12:03 |
| schestowitz | I got mails about Andrew | Feb 07 12:03 |
| schestowitz | Specifically how he trolls and blocks comments | Feb 07 12:03 |
| schestowitz | [12:02] <gnufreex> This last article might be truth, though. | Feb 07 12:04 |
| schestowitz | Did you read my post from last night? | Feb 07 12:04 |
| schestowitz | I wrote about it | Feb 07 12:04 |
| schestowitz | That Reuters and German news says he'll fire execs | Feb 07 12:04 |
| schestowitz | I assumed you've read it...? | Feb 07 12:04 |
| schestowitz | Also scroll up in the logs | Feb 07 12:04 |
| gnufreex | I must have missed it | Feb 07 12:04 |
| schestowitz | We had a VERY long discussion about it overnight (Elop and Nokia) | Feb 07 12:04 |
| gnufreex | I just joined | Feb 07 12:04 |
| *Diablo-D3 (~diablo@pool-70-16-107-214.port.east.myfairpoint.net) has joined #techrights | Feb 07 12:05 | |
| gnufreex | Those logs are not out yet? | Feb 07 12:05 |
| gnufreex | If it is this night. | Feb 07 12:05 |
| schestowitz | See http://techrights.org/2011/02/06/nokia-entryism-suspicion/ | Feb 07 12:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Report: Nokia’s New CEO From Microsoft About to Fire Existing Nokia Executives | Techrights .::. Size~: 88.73 KB | Feb 07 12:06 |
| schestowitz | You need to read the site too :-) | Feb 07 12:06 |
| schestowitz | To keep up to date with IRC :-D | Feb 07 12:06 |
| gnufreex | Oh, I read that | Feb 07 12:06 |
| gnufreex | I assumed you mean somethin else because I thougt this is news. | Feb 07 12:07 |
| gnufreex | But you knew it before this Andrew guy. | Feb 07 12:08 |
| gnufreex | He was just repeating old news, it seems. | Feb 07 12:08 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @schestowitz 'US will want Assange extradited for crimes they're inventing now' http://ur1.ca/353w2 SpreadDemocracy{tm} is contagious ... | Feb 07 12:08 | |
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| gnufreex | Wait... I didn't read this. I am messed up today. I read other one with same picture of Elop. | Feb 07 12:10 |
| gnufreex | Don't confuse me with same pictures schestowitz :-) | Feb 07 12:10 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @qtbynokia Next week #Qt will be at Mobile World Congress Hall 1 stand 1E44.Like our booth? http://ow.ly/i/7VlV #MWC11 http://ow.ly/3RwE6 | Feb 07 12:11 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Ow.ly - image uploaded by @qtbynokia (Qt Web Team) .::. Size~: 16.1 KB | Feb 07 12:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Mobile World Congress 2011 — Qt - A cross-platform application and UI framework .::. Size~: 31.52 KB | Feb 07 12:11 |
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| schestowitz | It takes a while to find pics, longer to process some | Feb 07 12:13 |
| schestowitz | Faces are hard | Feb 07 12:13 |
| schestowitz | People's faces are copyrighted with restrictions | Feb 07 12:13 |
| schestowitz | I otherwise use an Hungarian image stock | Feb 07 12:13 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/63895260 | Feb 07 12:13 |
| schestowitz | the US can do anything | Feb 07 12:13 |
| schestowitz | No need to ask for permission | Feb 07 12:13 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/poissonjensen/status/34581379605995520 | Feb 07 12:13 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @SÃdhe D'mento (wltsunami)'s status on Monday, 07-Feb-11 12:02:45 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Surely that can't be done. Otherwise you could make anything illegal and prosecute anybody for retrospectively! | Feb 07 12:13 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @poissonjensen: @schestowitz How does Identi.ca differ from twitter? | Feb 07 12:13 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] UK Public Affairs Council wants “statutory hug” - & why that’d impede transparency - http://bit.ly/ftvnaF chocolate teapot (v @CountCulture) | Feb 07 12:13 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Who's Lobbying Blog - UK Public Affairs Council wants a “statutory hug” - and why that’d impede transparency .::. Size~: 12.45 KB | Feb 07 12:13 |
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| schestowitz | Identica/statusnet is decentralised | Feb 07 12:13 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Software freedom crusader Richard Stallman on European tour - politics.co.uk http://ow.ly/3Rxik | Feb 07 12:15 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Software freedom crusader Richard Stallman on European tour - politics.co.uk .::. Size~: 30.84 KB | Feb 07 12:15 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Piracy/Counterfeit Bait and Switch - http://bit.ly/eh74dp still using the old #ACTA tricks... #piracy #counterfeits | Feb 07 12:16 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: open...: Piracy/Counterfeit Bait and Switch .::. Size~: 73.82 KB | Feb 07 12:16 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/poissonjensen/status/34586004694237184 | Feb 07 12:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @poissonjensen: @schestowitz Crap... So I need to start all over again... Jebus... | Feb 07 12:17 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Software freedom crusader Richard Stallman on European tour http://ur1.ca/35409 via @silner #fsf #gnu | Feb 07 12:18 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Software freedom crusader Richard Stallman on European tour - politics.co.uk .::. Size~: 30.84 KB | Feb 07 12:18 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/63891070 | Feb 07 12:20 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Pirates have links to Somali government, terrorist organizations http://ur1.ca/3540v | Feb 07 12:20 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Dr. Roy Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Monday, 07-Feb-11 10:42:32 UTC - Identi.ca: ♺ @richslxh !linux weather - Wallpaper http://ur1.ca/34hr6 CLI: weather-util http://ur1.ca/34hr7 | Feb 07 12:20 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> Title: Weather wallpaper .::. Size~: 8.91 KB | Feb 07 12:20 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> Title: my package of the day: weather-util (weather report and forecast for the console) | Screenage .::. Size~: 25.79 KB | Feb 07 12:20 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Canadian: Pirates have links to Somali government, terrorist organizations | WikiLeaked .::. Size~: 60.88 KB | Feb 07 12:20 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/63887394 | Feb 07 12:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Dr. Roy Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Monday, 07-Feb-11 09:30:35 UTC - Identi.ca: ♺ @toros #elementary #Wingpanel and #Plank dock (#Docky rewritten in #Vala) in action (screenshot): http://goo.gl/hhKgD !ubuntu | Feb 07 12:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting image/png type | Feb 07 12:21 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RD @glynmoody: Piracy/Counterfeit Bait and Switch - http://bit.ly/eh74dp still using the old #ACTA tricks... #piracy #counterfeits | Feb 07 12:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] EU institutes' vendor lock-in no example to other administrations - http://bit.ly/feLyCr incredible that this is *still* a problem #OSS | Feb 07 12:23 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] #Buddycloud is def a nice concept, but how come they only have twitter account? Not identi.ca? IMHO #fail - practice what you preach ;-) | Feb 07 12:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Diskless #Debian GNU/kFreeBSD HOWTO http://ur1.ca/3544a | Feb 07 12:36 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Diskless Debian GNU/kFreeBSD HOWTO « Robert Millan's blog .::. Size~: 31.11 KB | Feb 07 12:36 |
| gnufreex | schestowitz: I was kinda joking... | Feb 07 12:36 |
| schestowitz | About what? | Feb 07 12:37 |
| gnufreex | About double pictures. | Feb 07 12:38 |
| gnufreex | forget it. | Feb 07 12:38 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Create a Watermark and Place it in a Photo http://ur1.ca/3545c OK, but what for? | Feb 07 12:38 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: GIMPing Along: Create a Watermark and Place it in a Photo .::. Size~: 64.99 KB | Feb 07 12:38 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #GNOME 3 Test Day http://ur1.ca/3545z I used GNOME yesterday... | Feb 07 12:41 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: בַּסְטִייֵן נִיסוֹרַה (hadess) | News: GNOME 3 Test Day .::. Size~: 86.93 KB | Feb 07 12:41 |
| gnufreex | I treid GNOME3, it is great. | Feb 07 12:42 |
| schestowitz | Is it..? | Feb 07 12:42 |
| schestowitz | I didn't try 3... | Feb 07 12:42 |
| gnufreex | It is pretty good. | Feb 07 12:42 |
| gnufreex | I tried USB image from GNOME3 site | Feb 07 12:43 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Debian 6.0 Squeeze is released! With Screenshots Tour http://ur1.ca/3546k #gnu #linux | Feb 07 12:43 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Feb 07 12:43 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Software Review: The #Amarok Music Player http://ur1.ca/35470 Software Review: the #Clementine Music Player http://ur1.ca/35473 #kde #qt | Feb 07 12:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Designing #Ubuntu http://ur1.ca/35475 @jonobacon explains how their #gnu #linux distro evolves | Feb 07 12:46 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Software Review: The Amarok Music Player | Adventures in Linux .::. Size~: 18.27 KB | Feb 07 12:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Software Review: the Clementine Music Player | Adventures in Linux .::. Size~: 32.38 KB | Feb 07 12:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Designing Ubuntu | News | TechRadar UK .::. Size~: 83.53 KB | Feb 07 12:46 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @techdirt: Japanese Government Study Shows Anime 'Piracy' Could Boosts Sales http://dlvr.it/Fztlw | Feb 07 12:50 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Japanese Government Study Shows Anime 'Piracy' Could Boosts Sales | Techdirt .::. Size~: 24.34 KB | Feb 07 12:50 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Sharing means more, not less. "Licensing" (artificial limitation) means less, not more. The decision to make here is simple, no? #abundance | Feb 07 12:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Building an economy based on many small monopolies not necessary in globalised age with Internet connectivity. Get over it.Press learned it. | Feb 07 12:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Debian Squeeze Widescreen Wallpaper (featuring Bugs) [IMG] http://i.imgur.com/LNNJy.jpg #debian #gnu #linux #lol | Feb 07 12:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Congratulations Debian! http://ur1.ca/3548a #debian #freedom | Feb 07 12:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @schestowitz: Review: The #Amarok Music Player http://ur1.ca/35470 Review: the #Clementine Music Player http://ur1.ca/35473 #kde #qt | Feb 07 12:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @schestowitz: Create a Watermark and Place it in a Photo http://ur1.ca/3545c OK, but what for? | Feb 07 12:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @schestowitz: Diskless #Debian GNU/kFreeBSD HOWTO http://ur1.ca/3544a | Feb 07 12:53 | |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Software Review: The Amarok Music Player | Adventures in Linux .::. Size~: 18.27 KB | Feb 07 12:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Software Review: the Clementine Music Player | Adventures in Linux .::. Size~: 32.38 KB | Feb 07 12:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: GIMPing Along: Create a Watermark and Place it in a Photo .::. Size~: 64.99 KB | Feb 07 12:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Diskless Debian GNU/kFreeBSD HOWTO « Robert Millan's blog .::. Size~: 30.61 KB | Feb 07 12:53 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !lo !android What do people think are the best android podcasts? I want to start listening to something on the subject regularly | Feb 07 12:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺@glynmoody: #EU institutes' vendor lock-in no example to other administrations http://bit.ly/feLyCr incredible that this is *still* a prob | Feb 07 12:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The new #Debian Linux: Irrelevant? http://ur1.ca/3548p the grumpy grumpy @sjvn says freedom need not come first ;-) | Feb 07 12:55 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: EU institutes' vendor lock-in no example to other administrations — .::. Size~: 32.97 KB | Feb 07 12:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The new Debian Linux: Irrelevant? | ZDNet .::. Size~: 133.31 KB | Feb 07 12:55 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] First they took the free/libre browser, but we said nothing. Then they took the free drivers, but we shut up. And then they came for Linux.. | Feb 07 12:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The free drivers for #nvidia cards worked better for me than the proprietary (yesterday): http://ur1.ca/3549g #linux #blobssuck | Feb 07 12:58 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: IRC: #techrights @ FreeNode: February 6th, 2011 .::. Size~: 300.57 KB | Feb 07 12:58 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #KWin and the unmanageable combinations of drivers http://ur1.ca/34i0x better drivers will come not by accepting blobs & saying "thank you" | Feb 07 13:00 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Firefox 4 Beta 12 Builds Released. Are We There Yet? http://ur1.ca/354a1 almost there. Reviews are rants and raves, not final builds tho' | Feb 07 13:00 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: KWin and the unmanageable combinations of drivers « Martin’s Blog .::. Size~: 53.97 KB | Feb 07 13:00 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Nice browser, but that name … http://ur1.ca/351iy "That’s xxxterm" | Feb 07 13:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Ubuntu One: Ubuntu's cloud platform and its benefits explained http://ur1.ca/354b5 when #freedom meets the fog... | Feb 07 13:03 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Nice browser, but that name … « Motho ke motho ka botho .::. Size~: 56.16 KB | Feb 07 13:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Ubuntu One: Ubuntu's cloud platform and its benefits explained .::. Size~: 146.98 KB | Feb 07 13:03 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Kubuntu 11.04 Alpha 2 released http://ur1.ca/354bp #KDE 4.6! | Feb 07 13:05 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Kubuntu 11.04 Alpha 2 released .::. Size~: 64.03 KB | Feb 07 13:05 |
| MinceR | i expected "xxxterm" to be a terminal | Feb 07 13:05 |
| MinceR | i don't get what is it with the winblows screenshot, though | Feb 07 13:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Distro Hoppin`: #iGolaware #Linux 2.0 http://ur1.ca/354bs | Feb 07 13:06 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: IT Lure: Distro Hoppin`: iGolaware Linux 2.0 .::. Size~: 67.54 KB | Feb 07 13:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #RTS game #Megaglest sees 3.4.0 release, brings motherload of new features http://ur1.ca/354c8 #games #linux | Feb 07 13:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] F-O-S-S Explained http://ur1.ca/354cd "So, on the closing note a free software is more about “freedom” rather than zero-price." #freedom | Feb 07 13:08 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: RTS game Megaglest sees 3.4.0 release, brings motherload of new features .::. Size~: 33.36 KB | Feb 07 13:08 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Moments with Linux: F-O-S-S Explained .::. Size~: 46.86 KB | Feb 07 13:08 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] How to compile a kernel from kernel.org in Ubuntu 10.04 LTS http://ur1.ca/354cl not as hard as one might think. #linux #debian #ubuntu | Feb 07 13:10 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: How to compile a kernel from kernel.org in Ubuntu 10.04 LTS ~ Linux Tweaking - http://linuxtweaking.blogspot.com .::. Size~: 73.21 KB | Feb 07 13:10 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #FOSDEM 2011 Group Picture http://ur1.ca/354cs #kde #desktop | Feb 07 13:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Does anybody know when Google will announce that all of its hosted videos are webm-ready? #webm #youtube | Feb 07 13:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Gladwell Still Missing the Point About Social Media and Activism: (GigaOm): http://bit.ly/f5zXfV | Feb 07 13:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @schestowitz: Kubuntu 11.04 Alpha 2 released http://ur1.ca/354bp #KDE 4.6! | Feb 07 13:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @schestowitz: Ubuntu One: Ubuntu's cloud platform and its benefits explained http://ur1.ca/354b5 when #freedom meets the fog... | Feb 07 13:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] How to auto-remove trailing whitespace in Eclipse http://ur1.ca/jvte !java | Feb 07 13:11 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: FOSDEM 2011 Group Picture | kdedevelopers.org .::. Size~: 11.74 KB | Feb 07 13:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Gladwell Still Missing the Point About Social Media and Activism: Tech News and Analysis « .::. Size~: 203.95 KB | Feb 07 13:11 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: How to auto-remove trailing whitespace in Eclipse? - Stack Overflow .::. Size~: 54.47 KB | Feb 07 13:12 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @schestowitz: #Firefox 4 Beta 12 Builds Released. Are We There Yet? http://ur1.ca/354a1 almost there. Reviews are rants and raves... | Feb 07 13:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @schestowitz: The new #Debian Linux: Irrelevant? http://ur1.ca/3548p the grumpy grumpy @sjvn says freedom need not come first ;-) | Feb 07 13:13 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Firefox 4 Beta 12 Builds Released. Are We There Yet? | ConceivablyTech .::. Size~: 38.27 KB | Feb 07 13:13 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The new Debian Linux: Irrelevant? | ZDNet .::. Size~: 133.01 KB | Feb 07 13:13 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/63897358 | Feb 07 13:13 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Dr. Roy Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Monday, 07-Feb-11 12:41:27 UTC - Identi.ca: Free Software, Paid Support http://ur1.ca/3546k #business #freedom | Feb 07 13:13 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Feb 07 13:13 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺@schestowitz: Howto compile a kernel from kernel.org in Ubuntu10.04LTS http://ur1.ca/354cl not as hard as one might think. #debian #ubuntu | Feb 07 13:15 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: How to compile a kernel from kernel.org in Ubuntu 10.04 LTS ~ Linux Tweaking - http://linuxtweaking.blogspot.com .::. Size~: 73.21 KB | Feb 07 13:15 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #debian i've just changed my sources.list from #squeeze to testing and did an upgrade followed by dist-upgrade.... next step...Sid/Unstable | Feb 07 13:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Seems to be the first real sunny day in ages... | Feb 07 13:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] ♺ @gijs: EP start free sofware working group http://ur1.ca/3544l | Feb 07 13:18 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: European Parliament starts free software user group — .::. Size~: 29.75 KB | Feb 07 13:18 |
| schestowitz | New autotuned obama: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ej_H8wYo2s4 Obama Sings to the Shawties (replay extended) | Feb 07 13:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: YouTube - Songify This - Obama Sings to the Shawties (replay extended) .::. Size~: 157.1 KB | Feb 07 13:21 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/63899415 | Feb 07 13:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Dr. Roy Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Monday, 07-Feb-11 13:16:50 UTC - Identi.ca: Free Software Song en español - !playogg http://ur1.ca/354en or #AdobeTrash http://ur1.ca/354ew !fsf !gnu | Feb 07 13:21 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Hilarious. They lost. So they play "the good guy". Times up! http://ur1.ca/354fq #fb | Feb 07 13:23 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nisshh/@nisshh] Dammit. Could people stop sending HTML mail please? If only all email providers/clients stopped supporting HTML mail, we would be fine. | Feb 07 13:26 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Everything is a Remix" blocked by #YouTube http://ur1.ca/354h9 //cc @glynmoody #copyrightAsCensorship | Feb 07 13:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] are groupon.com and groupon.cn really from the same company? or a good clone... !china | Feb 07 13:30 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: YouTube - Everything is a Remix: Watch It Now .::. Size~: 128.44 KB | Feb 07 13:30 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] AriannaOL - http://bit.ly/f8OJi1 interesting, upbeat analysis of the move #huffpo #newspapers #aol | Feb 07 13:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Here is what YouTube had to remove for "copyright infringement" http://ur1.ca/354hr (Everything is a Remix, Part 1) | Feb 07 13:31 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: AriannaOL « BuzzMachine .::. Size~: 13.72 KB | Feb 07 13:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Everything is a Remix, Part 1 : Everything Is a Remix .::. Size~: 189.28 KB | Feb 07 13:31 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/34605361419780096 | Feb 07 13:37 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @glynmoody: @schestowitz thanks...says it all | Feb 07 13:37 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] How many people _in the West_ know about the real "Jai Ho"? http://ur1.ca/354iv 1. take art 2. add sex element 3. profit http://ur1.ca/354il | Feb 07 13:38 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: YouTube - BSO de Slumdog Millionaire. Jai Ho .::. Size~: 154.07 KB | Feb 07 13:38 |
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| gnufreex | this is funny, http://www.i4ilp.com/ they want to defend US patent system from MSFT. | Feb 07 13:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Original artists give credit. BS artists (fake "originals") or ripoffs don't give credit. Attribution goes a long way. #CreativeCommons #OSS | Feb 07 13:41 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: i4i Limited Partnership | i4i vs Microsoft .::. Size~: 6.1 KB | Feb 07 13:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] OK I figured out how to use the tinyarro API - it's an odd one - the defaults are peculiar :( | Feb 07 13:45 | |
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| schestowitz | gnufreex: you should dent it, I'd RD | Feb 07 13:45 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Links 7/2/2011: FOSDEM 2011 Closing, GNOME 3 Test Day http://ur1.ca/354lj #techrights | Feb 07 13:46 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gnufreex/@gnufreex] this is funny, http://www.i4ilp.com/ they want to defend US patent system from MSFT. | Feb 07 13:48 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: i4i Limited Partnership | i4i vs Microsoft .::. Size~: 6.1 KB | Feb 07 13:48 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] @silner I only listen to the !Android Central podcast, but there are others too, phandroid and androidguys I think | Feb 07 13:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @gnufreex this is funny, http://www.i4ilp.com/ they want to defend US patent system from MSFT. | Feb 07 13:50 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: i4i Limited Partnership | i4i vs Microsoft .::. Size~: 6.1 KB | Feb 07 13:50 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] @silner here: Top 10 Best !Android Related Podcasts To Keep That Podcast App Of Yours Satisfied http://ur1.ca/354my | Feb 07 13:55 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Top 10 Best Android Related Podcasts To Keep That Podcast App Of Yours Satisfied | Android News, Reviews, Apps, Games, Phones, Tablets, Tips, Mods, Videos, Tutorials - Android Police .::. Size~: 189.36 KB | Feb 07 13:55 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Your open source management approach: Red Team or Blue Team? | http://bit.ly/g8KkWR #innovation #leadership | Feb 07 14:01 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Your open source management approach: Red Team or Blue Team? | opensource.com .::. Size~: 46.89 KB | Feb 07 14:01 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[docufoundation/@docufoundation] RT @floeff LibreOffice Release-Party in Munich this Friday - don't forget to sign up! http://ur1.ca/354pu !libo !tdf | Feb 07 14:06 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Release Party in Munich « The Document Foundation Blog .::. Size~: 25.97 KB | Feb 07 14:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @gotunandan: OK trying two of those - heard of Phandroid blog already so expecting that to be good :) | Feb 07 14:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Oracle offers file management package for cloud, called Oracle CloudFS (Network World): http://bit.ly/gSQYpf | Feb 07 14:13 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Oracle offers file management package for cloud .::. Size~: 119.09 KB | Feb 07 14:13 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Open Attribute - http://bit.ly/dVCDxj "to copy & paste correct attribution for any #CC licensed work": cool (v @CameronNeylon @mollyali) | Feb 07 14:18 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #WikiLeaks Finds New Source Of Funding: T-Shirts And Tote Bags - http://bit.ly/g1Mlif like any self-respecting rock star #scarcity #brand | Feb 07 14:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Why Quora & Social Media Experts Don’t Mix (The Quora Review): http://bit.ly/gKFbWS (via @techmeme) | Feb 07 14:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @floeff LibreOffice Release-Party in Munich this Friday - don't forget to sign up! http://ur1.ca/354pu !libo !tdf | Feb 07 14:21 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: WikiLeaks Finds New Source Of Funding: T-Shirts And Tote Bags - Andy Greenberg - The Firewall - Forbes .::. Size~: 104.32 KB | Feb 07 14:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Why Quora & Social Media Experts Don’t Mix « The Quora Review .::. Size~: 48.95 KB | Feb 07 14:21 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Debian 6 "Squeeze" released (H): http://bit.ly/gGY32O | Feb 07 14:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] European Parliament starts free software user group - http://bit.ly/fl9XbE excellent idea - kudos to MEP Indrek Tarand #estonia #freesw | Feb 07 14:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @schestowitz: #Debian 6.0 Squeeze is released! With Screenshots Tour http://ur1.ca/3546k #gnu #linux | Feb 07 14:23 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Debian 6 "Squeeze" is finished - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 40.11 KB | Feb 07 14:23 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] @jwildeboer I saw that ;-)... but either way, "freedom lost" #doublemeaning | Feb 07 14:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Arrr! The Music Pirates Are Still Here - http://bit.ly/g3CZYT makes good point #piracy | Feb 07 14:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nisshh/@nisshh] RT @ashcrow Sarcasm #win http://i.imgur.com/x5Sp6.png #img #link | Feb 07 14:26 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Arrr! The Music Pirates Are Still Here | TorrentFreak .::. Size~: 27.78 KB | Feb 07 14:26 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Grounds for #Antitrust Case Against #Apple http://ur1.ca/354wt #ebook #drm #amazoff #SCOny #format #appStore | Feb 07 14:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @rotyen: @gpietersz @_the_mad_hatter UBB is not appropriate for third party ISPs, and this is why I think so: http://bit.ly/fT6pX4 | Feb 07 14:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Grounds for #Antitrust Case Against #Apple http://ur1.ca/354wt !dbd | Feb 07 14:28 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @nisshh RT @ashcrow Sarcasm #win http://i.imgur.com/x5Sp6.png #img #link | Feb 07 14:30 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @jwildeboer Because either blaming Ubuntu is more fun, or because @ddevine doesn't understand software. | Feb 07 14:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The age of the #WikiLeaks-style vigilante geek is over - http://bit.ly/dY8Wnh new task: to create a censorship-resistant infrastructure? | Feb 07 14:35 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The age of the WikiLeaks-style vigilante geek is over | Evgeny Morozov | Media | The Guardian .::. Size~: 98.5 KB | Feb 07 14:35 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @thetecheye: Traffic obsessed Armstrong brings Huff Post to AWOL - Much Huffing and puffing http://bit.ly/gzeQh9 #internet | Feb 07 14:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @jwildeboer go trim your hair, in that pic you almost look like an #Apple tree tree-hugger hippie! ;) | Feb 07 14:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @glynmoody: The age of the #WikiLeaks-style vigilante geek is over - http://bit.ly/dY8Wnh new task: to create a censorship-resistant... | Feb 07 14:36 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Huffington Post buys AOL | TechEye .::. Size~: 25.41 KB | Feb 07 14:36 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The age of the WikiLeaks-style vigilante geek is over | Evgeny Morozov | Media | The Guardian .::. Size~: 98.44 KB | Feb 07 14:36 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Revolution Will Not Be Televised — It Will Be Remixed! - http://bit.ly/eO7C0f anything with Umm Kulthum is fine by me #egypt | Feb 07 14:38 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The Revolution Will Not Be Televised — It Will Be Remixed! : netzpolitik.org .::. Size~: 62.46 KB | Feb 07 14:38 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] Another #fail in !android WRT software freedom ♺ @bugabundo: Motorola's Tablet Locks Wi-Fi until 3G Service Purchased http://ur1.ca/354w9 | Feb 07 14:40 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Motorola's Android Tablet Locks Wi-Fi until 3G Service Purchased - Wi-Fi Networking News .::. Size~: 38.83 KB | Feb 07 14:40 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @TonyClement_MP: Many thx to tweep who directed me to Bell documents indicating no congestion due to wholesale ISPs. #ubb | Feb 07 14:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @ddevine: #Ubuntu 11.04Beta installer crashes in my #VB instance. Crashy just like I remember it. !fedora #anaconda hardly perfect either | Feb 07 14:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @TonyClement_MP: Here's the link to Bell's take on wholesale internet http://www.bcenexxia.com/pdfs/InternetConnect.pdf | Feb 07 14:48 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] ars technica: #Farmville for Dummies? Coming soon to a bookstore near you... http://goo.gl/fIUxP This has to be a joke... | Feb 07 14:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @glynmoody The Revolution Will Not Be Televised — It Will Be Remixed! - http://bit.ly/eO7C0f anything with Umm Kulthum is fine by me ... | Feb 07 14:51 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @thetecheye: Third of EU is crap at web security - Too daft to use the internet in 2010 http://bit.ly/g5cdiZ #security | Feb 07 14:53 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Third of EU is crap at web security - Too daft to use the internet in 2010 | TechEye .::. Size~: 23.87 KB | Feb 07 14:53 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] GCC 4.6 Compiler Performance With AVX: While we are still battling issues with the Intel Linux graphics driver i... http://bit.ly/e99HpO | Feb 07 14:55 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: [Phoronix] GCC 4.6 Compiler Performance With AVX On Sandy Bridge .::. Size~: 23.08 KB | Feb 07 14:55 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] The @androidcentral podcast is pretty good. I just listened to it for the first time. Thanks for the tip, @gotunandan - trying others soon | Feb 07 14:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Consumers in emerging markets using multi SIM cards for cheaper calls - http://ind.pn/fIGCC9 fascinating trend (v @whiteafrican) #mobile | Feb 07 15:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] @schestowitz unless they're backporting 4.5 and 4.6's bugfixes it's not any safer, at all. | Feb 07 15:05 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Consumers in emerging markets using multi SIM cards for cheaper calls - Gadgets & Tech, Life & Style - The Independent .::. Size~: 99.06 KB | Feb 07 15:05 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] pesky ned for water causing me to wake up. i still get three hours of sleep damnit! | Feb 07 15:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[elbek/@elbek] !wikileaks EE.UU presionó contra los génericos al gobierno de Guatemala en 2005 http://is.gd/d1gVFa | Feb 07 15:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] How can we make work more fun? | http://bit.ly/etM5ey #opensource #hackmanagement | Feb 07 15:06 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] OMG... the teaser for Xperia Play is awesome: http://is.gd/1ozOAk #android #playstation | Feb 07 15:08 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] @schestowitz and even then, you end up with this pseudo enterprise zombiemashup of backported security fixes meshing with old code etc. mess | Feb 07 15:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] ♺ @mairin: actually their software is crap. having acrobat reader is like having an inappropriate, drunken clown poking you constantly | Feb 07 15:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] If #Microsoft Speaks for Patent ‘Reform’, for FOSS, and for Small Businesses http://ur1.ca/355b2 #patents #fosdem #novell | Feb 07 15:18 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @qu1j0t3: Sale to #AOL only confirms what we already knew about HuffPost: It's just another front for corporate media. #worthless | Feb 07 15:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @qu1j0t3: ... HuffPost is not even "neutral". It's an *actively destructive* amplifier of #Fox & even openly syndicates plutocrats. | Feb 07 15:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[demuxer/@demuxer] Presion de EEUU contra los medicamentos genericos en 2005 http://rod.gs/C7f via @elbek 3er !cablegate !wikileaks !Guatemala | Feb 07 15:23 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] X.Org Server 1.9.4 Released; 1.9.5 Expected: Before ending out last week, Jeremy Huddleston released X.Org Serve... http://bit.ly/gap3hb | Feb 07 15:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Hackers at the NASDAQ (Business Insider): http://read.bi/gW6XTd | Feb 07 15:26 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @opensourceway How can we make work more fun? | http://bit.ly/etM5ey #opensource #hackmanagement | Feb 07 15:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @glynmoody Consumers in emerging markets using multi SIM cards for cheaper calls - http://ind.pn/fIGCC9 fascinating trend (v @whiteaf ... | Feb 07 15:30 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] I don't care about the superbowl... but I do love the commercials: "You left the best part... ... hmmmm... cheese!" | Feb 07 15:31 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] U.S. Has Secret Tools to Force Internet on Dictators - http://bit.ly/grWT0e what fun #internet | Feb 07 15:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] /me watches some #superbowl commercials: http://www.youtube.com/adblitz | Feb 07 15:33 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Take our first reader survey | http://bit.ly/i03yQt | Feb 07 15:47 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Just back from my first #run of 2011. Man... I desperately need to get back into shape... http://outl.ws/g2OsS4 | Feb 07 15:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] /me listening "Roy Orbinson - Pretty Woman"... #lovethissong | Feb 07 15:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] EU Academics Opinion on #ACTA – Deadline for Signing Is Today - http://bit.ly/fAF1KI hurry hurry hurry | Feb 07 15:48 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Huawei S7 Slim Tablet Promised to Show Up at Mobile World Congress - http://bit.ly/hRpE44 running #Android #tablets | Feb 07 15:50 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Nearly 1/3 of internet users in the EU27 caught a computer #virus [pdf] - http://bit.ly/erf8bj no mention of #Windows, just for a change | Feb 07 15:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] ♺ @glynmoody: EU Academics Opinion on #ACTA – Deadline for Signing Is Today - http://bit.ly/fAF1KI hurry hurry hurry | Feb 07 15:56 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Copyright as a Fundamentalist Religion - http://bit.ly/emVOHp sharp post; more generally, #intellectualmonopolies are like a religion | Feb 07 15:59 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] BBC refusing to say "electoral reform"? just in case, you can sign this email to Mark Thompson - http://bit.ly/hlnaTb #pusillanimity | Feb 07 16:05 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] @glynmoody just giving away might not be enough unless your "version" is better than theirs... | Feb 07 16:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @Chevenga: Philosopher in Arms 432 tser : The Mezem enacts its contingency plan. http://bit.ly/guiAOs #amwriting #Chevenga #weblit | Feb 07 16:08 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] The open-by-rule governance benchmark by@webmink | http://bit.ly/faiAdj #opensource #community #transparency | Feb 07 16:11 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] @schestowitz lol. It seems like the chap is going to regret trying to make a quick buck and how you can't fight the net! | Feb 07 16:15 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] !fsfe fellows: Tomorrow 19:00 - 20:00 CET we will have the #meetyourcandidates jabber meeting for the #election http://ur1.ca/32wl2 | Feb 07 16:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] @schestowitz btw its a great topic to bring on the show, ties in nicely with the acs law , mediacat and ICE topics I want to mention. | Feb 07 16:23 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[invi/@invi] !fotolibre !wikileaks !softwarelibre Recuérdales que tu voto cuenta, ayúdales a decir NO a la ley Sinde definitivamente http://ur1.ca/355t9 | Feb 07 16:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Poisoning Mobile #Linux With #Microsoft Staff and #Mono http://ur1.ca/355u0 #swpats | Feb 07 16:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Poisoning Mobile #Linux With #Microsoft Staff and #Mono http://ur1.ca/355u0 #nokia #meego #android #google #docky | Feb 07 16:26 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joshuagay/@joshuagay] RT @hatchjt: It's CRAZY MONDAY here at @sunFoundation. We'll be covering Pres. #Obama's Chamber of Commerce speech LIVE: sunlightlive.com | Feb 07 16:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] OData Video Series (MSDN): http://bit.ly/dT2Y2n | Feb 07 16:30 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Print Previews and the Future of Slicing - http://bit.ly/ee8fne great to see #Blender being used for this #3dprinting #opensource | Feb 07 16:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[invi/@invi] !fotolibre !wikileaks !softwarelibre Si votas #leysinde no te voto http://ur1.ca/355w3 | Feb 07 16:31 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Open Source Alternatives to Google - http://bit.ly/eLl398 #newsblur was new to me: looks nice as #google #reader drop-in #opensource | Feb 07 16:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Anonymous leaks 5GB of internal HBGary Federal emails pointing out FBI almost paid for bad research on Anonymous http://ur1.ca/355wr !wl | Feb 07 16:35 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Tiny device could transform mobile communications, says its creator - http://bit.ly/dTb3Du wonder if could be used for alternative nws...? | Feb 07 16:38 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Tiny device could transform mobile communications, says its creator | Technology | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 99.21 KB | Feb 07 16:39 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Internetzensur jetzt via EU-Kommission? [de] - http://bit.ly/f90mfO useful review of where things stand #eu #censorship | Feb 07 16:43 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @schestowitz: Poisoning Mobile #Linux With #Microsoft Staff and #Mono http://ur1.ca/355u0 #nokia #meego #android #google #docky | Feb 07 16:45 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @glynmoody: Nearly 1/3 of internet users in the EU27 caught a computer #virus [pdf] - http://bit.ly/erf8bj no mention of #Windows... | Feb 07 16:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @glynmoody: U.S. Has Secret Tools to Force Internet on Dictators - http://bit.ly/grWT0e what fun #internet | Feb 07 16:46 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #FF #FAIL: Had to use #google to find something on my own #FF feed!!! grrrrrrr #cheatsheets http://ur1.ca/3560l | Feb 07 16:50 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Scientists Successfully Use Sedation to Help Disentangle North Atlantic Right #Whale - http://bit.ly/dP4DnM hurrah (v @tdelene @BoraZ) | Feb 07 16:51 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Belittling the ‘Open Source Community’ for Stance on Patents, Worshipping Microsoft Patents http://ur1.ca/3561j #swpats | Feb 07 16:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Belittling the ‘Open Source Community’ for Stance on Patents, Worshipping Microsoft Patents http://ur1.ca/3561j #nz #iponz #epo #epo #ukipo | Feb 07 16:55 | |
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| conscioususer | yoyo | Feb 07 16:59 |
| conscioususer | that was supposed to be a single "yo", but anyway | Feb 07 16:59 |
| conscioususer | is sebsebseb there? | Feb 07 17:00 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] 28% packetloss, what does that say about the willingness to be a leader in tech !onlyinchina #gfw | Feb 07 17:03 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] @zotz exactly: encourages survival of the fittest... | Feb 07 17:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] NoteSlate - http://bit.ly/e9yv0h "low cost #tablet with true one colour display, real paper look design, long life battery"; partly #OSS | Feb 07 17:06 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Very bad day start (Wikipedia harrassed me, Tax Auth. did worse) ending well, new big client (large city) w/ interesting instructions | Feb 07 17:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Is it time to refer to mitochondria as bacteria? - http://bit.ly/fEXvRS groovy idea #microbiology | Feb 07 17:23 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Sicily couple murdered man with butter - http://yhoo.it/g7Gx6K great headline, splendid name of victim, sad story #sicily | Feb 07 17:25 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] It seems I gotta get ++richer in order to pay the taxes that the State charges me for how rich it thinks I am. #kafkian² | Feb 07 17:26 | |
| schestowitz | [17:01] <_Goblin> schestowitz: if you like, we can do the pre-show chat now then I'll have some dinner and then start to record | Feb 07 17:27 |
| schestowitz | Lets record straight away | Feb 07 17:27 |
| schestowitz | I'm in a hurry today | Feb 07 17:27 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: can you get connected quickly? | Feb 07 17:29 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Open letter to President Dilma Rousseff - http://bit.ly/hKiC6v I'm not optimistic on this one... #copyright #brazil | Feb 07 17:31 | |
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| _Goblin | Ive got dinner...should only be a short while | Feb 07 17:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Yahoo Is Said to Move Toward Personalized Content (NYTimes): http://nyti.ms/eCRG6d | Feb 07 17:35 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] RT @mollyali Proud to announce Open Attribute, making it simple to attribute CC licensed work on the web: http://openattribute.com | Feb 07 17:36 | |
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| schestowitz | _Goblin: OK | Feb 07 17:37 |
| schestowitz | Go online as soon as you get back, we need to record quickly | Feb 07 17:38 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RIP: Not a ‘Remix’ Manifesto, a Moratorium - http://bit.ly/gyUdgo lots of interesting nit-picking; but language moves on... (v @copycense) | Feb 07 17:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Delicious Bookmark: Beginner's Guide to WCF Data Services: http://bit.ly/hYRVBe | Feb 07 17:41 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] Knight-Mozilla News Technology Partnership Announced http://bit.ly/g9PvIY | Feb 07 17:43 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] A Paralegal’s Take on Microsoft’s Latest Anti-Google (and Anti-FOSS) Moves http://ur1.ca/356ec #microsoft #google #search | Feb 07 17:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] A Paralegal’s Take on Microsoft’s Latest Anti-Google (and Anti-FOSS) Moves http://ur1.ca/356ec #microsoft #bing #search #antitrust | Feb 07 17:46 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Mark my words: I'll believe MSFT is serious abt interoperability when they wholeheartedly (re-)join forces ag.st #SWpats: #snowballinhell? | Feb 07 17:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Copy evident JPEGS (Light Blue Touchpaper blog): http://bit.ly/fGccGN | Feb 07 17:58 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] More Ratings Please: Given the interest in my earlier article about a scorecard for open source and my own rough... http://wmk.me/fnEDHn | Feb 07 18:00 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[invi/@invi] !fotolibre !wikileaks !softwarelibre Lo que no se puede decir http://ur1.ca/356hi | Feb 07 18:01 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Register now: General Hugh Shelton webcast, February 16 | http://bit.ly/hYlOHV #oywf | Feb 07 18:03 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] ♺ @carlopiana: I'll believe MSFT is serious abt interoperability when they wholeheartedly (re-)join forces ag.st #SWpats: #snowballinhell? | Feb 07 18:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @carlopiana ..I'll believe MSFT is serious abt interoperability when they wholeheartedly (re-)join forces ag.st #SWpats: #snowballinhell? | Feb 07 18:05 | |
| _Goblin | schestowitz: right, ready | Feb 07 18:05 |
| schestowitz | calling... | Feb 07 18:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] Anonymous v. Computer Insecurity Expert Aaron Barr - http://bit.ly/eB3f8w #Anonymous #ethics #starwars #justice #truth | Feb 07 18:11 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @laurelrusswurm I missed that atheism "non stamp collector" dent, very good.@schestowitz thanks for video links looking now. Chiros? | Feb 07 18:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] Another online #VOD content entrant. Sony launches Qriocity in Canada. http://bit.ly/eiYOjK #OTT But Who Trusts Sony? #ps3rootkit | Feb 07 18:15 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @inkyelbows: Takeaway #1 from #ny11scbwi: In the end, it all comes down to the STORY and CHARACTERS. | Feb 07 18:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] RT @oscon Last day to submit a proposal to speak at #OSCON. Submission deadline is 11:59pm PT *tonight*. http://bit.ly/gcKQ0p | Feb 07 18:18 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[vejeta/@vejeta] ♺ @JPBarlow: Wikileaks is the first battleground of the Great Infowar. The Arab Awakening is the second. There will be more. !wl | Feb 07 18:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[vejeta/@vejeta] ♻ @elbek !wikileaks EE.UU presionó contra los génericos al gobierno de Guatemala en 2005 http://is.gd/d1gVFa | Feb 07 18:35 | |
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| Faither | ahoi | Feb 07 18:37 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Hey fans of sharing & CC! Announcing a super cool new limited edition t-shirt, check it out http://bit.ly/hlqapf | Feb 07 18:41 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] South Sudan in landslide vote for independence http://ur1.ca/356qo | Feb 07 18:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Monday's security advisories http://lwn.net/Articles/426722/rss | Feb 07 18:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Linux 2.6.35.11 longterm kernel release http://lwn.net/Articles/426736/rss | Feb 07 18:43 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: South Sudan in landslide vote for independence | Reuters .::. Size~: 47.17 KB | Feb 07 18:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Monday's security advisories [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 6.03 KB | Feb 07 18:43 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] De Gucht responds to MEP Françoise Castex. Says #ACTA is binding agreement, consistent with EU 'acquis' - http://bit.ly/gO6jiV piffle | Feb 07 18:53 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: De Gucht responds to MEP Françoise Castex. Says ACTA is binding agreement, consistent with EU 'acquis' | Knowledge Ecology International .::. Size~: 29.91 KB | Feb 07 18:53 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Humble water flea packs giant genetic punch - http://bit.ly/gZfp3y puts us in our place: 5000 more genes than humans #genomics | Feb 07 19:00 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Short Sharp Science: Humble water flea packs giant genetic punch .::. Size~: 57.5 KB | Feb 07 19:00 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[swadeshine/@swadeshine] Air Force legal office: Almost anyone can be prosecuted by the military for reading !WikiLeaks > http://goo.gl/vObZv | Feb 07 19:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] Another #tron reference: MCP.. Master Control Program, Microsoft Certified Partner *hehehehe* | Feb 07 19:01 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Air Force legal office: Almost anyone can be prosecuted for reading WikiLeaks | Raw Story .::. Size~: 26.46 KB | Feb 07 19:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Open source app store - http://bit.ly/gl6iBu makes a lot of sense #apps #gnu #linux | Feb 07 19:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @laurelrusswurm Heinleins Methusalah's Children is being abridged and serialised on Radio 7. | Feb 07 19:05 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Open source app store .::. Size~: 45.63 KB | Feb 07 19:05 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] USB Autorun Attacks Against Linux - http://bit.ly/gcaCAH ouch #linux #security | Feb 07 19:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] AOL buy the Huffington Post http://is.gd/RcQuYR | Feb 07 19:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] How can we promote the public domain? - http://bit.ly/f1H5Nc good question #publicdomain | Feb 07 19:06 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @paulnuk2011 @GuyClapperton ASBOs are being replaced with Criminal Behaviour Orders, CRIMBOS. #facepalm >>wunnerful | Feb 07 19:08 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] For the soundtrack to your life: http://www.instantsfun.es/ | Feb 07 19:25 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @sixgun: As you might have guessed, there will be no !LinuxOutlaws live show today. Next recording should happen on Monday next week. | Feb 07 19:31 | |
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| Clanky | Good evening, am struggling to find old content on the site, I commented on a post in Spanish a few days ago and was wondering if there had been any feed back | Feb 07 19:37 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Last Week's Top Posts (Week 5, 2011) http://bit.ly/gGLjGD | Feb 07 19:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Audacious 2.4.3 Available In The WebUpd8 PPA http://bit.ly/ha4Uso | Feb 07 19:43 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Last Week's Top Posts (Week 5, 2011) ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog .::. Size~: 52.4 KB | Feb 07 19:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Audacious 2.4.3 Available In The WebUpd8 PPA ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog .::. Size~: 53.19 KB | Feb 07 19:43 |
| DaemonFC | I noticed when they made the announcement of unXis taking over SCO that unxis.com was available | Feb 07 19:45 |
| DaemonFC | thought about registering it | Feb 07 19:45 |
| DaemonFC | seems like some domain squatter currently has it now | Feb 07 19:47 |
| abeNd-org | meh, squatters | Feb 07 19:47 |
| DaemonFC | I wonder if anyone has a RPM for Fedora of Audacious 2.5 beta | Feb 07 19:49 |
| DaemonFC | I could build myself one I suppose, I just hate building things to say "Oh that's neat I guess" and never use it again | Feb 07 19:50 |
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| DaemonFC | http://forum.nginx.org/read.php?30,171656 | Feb 07 19:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Some thoughts on Audacious in Fedora .::. Size~: 14.95 KB | Feb 07 19:51 |
| DaemonFC | looks like someone saved me the effort :) | Feb 07 19:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !OMG: #Mozilla intend to ship #Firefox 4, 5, 6 and 7 this year http://goo.gl/BP3kw | Feb 07 19:51 | |
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| DaemonFC | but this won't play MP3s because the plugins can't be hosted on a Fedora server :) | Feb 07 19:52 |
| *DaemonFC is glad he doesn't have any | Feb 07 19:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Firefox 5, Firefox 6 and Firefox 7 - http://mzl.la/fuJzAA no really... #firefox #mozilla | Feb 07 20:03 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is psquid with 96 dents! | Feb 07 20:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Hehe. Suddenly I have MeeGo people from Intel talking to me because of !LO. Cool. :) | Feb 07 20:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] GIMP Painter And GIMP Paint Studio Transform GIMP Into The Ultimate Painting Tool http://bit.ly/fK40Rc | Feb 07 20:15 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: GIMP Painter And GIMP Paint Studio Transform GIMP Into The Ultimate Painting Tool ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog .::. Size~: 60.11 KB | Feb 07 20:15 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Bad news: It looks like I will kill Rant-o'Fab. Good news: It'll be back as something much cooler! !lo | Feb 07 20:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] @fabsh but do you have meego people from nokia contacting you yet? | Feb 07 20:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jezra Well, I think @alisonchaiken is on the case over there... | Feb 07 20:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @debian: RT @zack: “Why !Debian matters more than ever” http://ur1.ca/3555x covers some arguments from my recent #DPL talks… and more! ... | Feb 07 20:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @glynmoody: Firefox 5, Firefox 6 and Firefox 7 - http://mzl.la/fuJzAA no really... #firefox #mozilla | Feb 07 20:43 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Review: Hands on #LibreOffice 3.3 http://is.gd/zFcPMi | Feb 07 20:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] Java DoS bug <- Looks like a great opportunity for the open source community to contribute; anyone on the case? http://wmk.me/eQ634D | Feb 07 20:46 | |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: 'Mark-of-the-Beast' bug topples Java apps • Channel Register .::. Size~: 26.05 KB | Feb 07 20:46 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] grrrrrrrrrr STOP CALLING 'Open source app store' to the #AppStream project!!! This is a cross distro install tool not an apps store. | Feb 07 20:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Show notes for episode 30 almost done! !techbytes | Feb 07 20:56 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] @fabsh Blather O' Fab? | Feb 07 21:00 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @gusteru: De cand n-am mai vzaut un blue screen asa frumos http://www.twitpic.com/3xhw0c | Feb 07 21:01 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] RT @jaimesilva "If you're using !Ubuntu (or !Mint, or !Mepis...), you're really using !Debian with some enhancements" http://is.gd/uQJzXS | Feb 07 21:05 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Open Source Report: Why Debian matters more than ever | Network World .::. Size~: 84.3 KB | Feb 07 21:05 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] It's only 10 PM, but I feel very sleepy... | Feb 07 21:06 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[hazzy/@hazzy] #Obama's broken #campaign promises http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/obameter/rulings/promise-broken/ #president | Feb 07 21:16 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @grep: Pro-democracy protesters plan to gather over a million tomorrow and on Friday. #Egypt #Jan25 | Feb 07 21:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @hazzy What did you expect? Obama is a Chicago Machine politician. | Feb 07 21:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[hazzy/@hazzy] @themadhatter Can't argue with that. | Feb 07 21:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @glynmoody But does the flea have Levi or Wrangler jeans? | Feb 07 21:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @hazzy I'm shocked that so many Americans bought into Obama. You look where he came from, and who was backing him. Bad stuff. | Feb 07 21:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @glynmoody Open Source App Store - let me see - apt.get? | Feb 07 21:23 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @bryonwilfert: Raised in Question Period firing of our negotiator Èarl Turcotte on cluster bomb issue. Americans thought he was too tough | Feb 07 21:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @glynmoody: Firefox 5, Firefox 6 and Firefox 7 - http://mzl.la/fuJzAA no really... #firefox #mozilla | Feb 07 21:25 | |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Any idea why Lancelot only updates my menus if I log out and in? | Feb 07 21:30 |
| schestowitz | ask the dev | Feb 07 21:31 |
| schestowitz | He's in identica | Feb 07 21:31 |
| DaemonFC | I'm not :( | Feb 07 21:32 |
| schestowitz | Can you reactive twitter acct? | Feb 07 21:33 |
| schestowitz | *activate | Feb 07 21:33 |
| DaemonFC | unsure | Feb 07 21:35 |
| DaemonFC | deleted it a while back | Feb 07 21:35 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Scientology was really behind the mortgage crash http://ur1.ca/357xn | Feb 07 21:41 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Scientology founder's tenets drive Pinellas title company, under fire for rapid document processing - St. Petersburg Times .::. Size~: 72.2 KB | Feb 07 21:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] well, it looks like I won't be going to Google IO this year | Feb 07 21:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] How To Easily Resize A VirtualBox 4.0+ Hard Disk (.VDI) [Quick Tip] http://bit.ly/igmD0r | Feb 07 21:45 | |
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| DaemonFC | so Mandriva is getting rid of Free and essentially making a One LiveDVD? | Feb 07 21:46 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ender2070/@ender2070] #socialism takes bribes from 'evil corps' too! libs conspired with Molson and Labbat /cc @schestowitz - http://ur1.ca/357z6 #canada #beer | Feb 07 21:51 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @ender2070 #fascism, #conservativism, #liberalism, #socialism, all take bribes from corps. And your point is? | Feb 07 21:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ender2070/@ender2070] @themadhatter they are all wings of the same bird is the point | Feb 07 21:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Review: Hands on LibreOffice 3.3 (Linux.com) http://lwn.net/Articles/426784/rss | Feb 07 21:55 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Review: Hands on LibreOffice 3.3 (Linux.com) [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 6.2 KB | Feb 07 21:55 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @ender2070 But that is not what you said :) | Feb 07 21:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ender2070/@ender2070] @themadhatter #socialism takes bribes from 'evil corps' ******too!******* | Feb 07 21:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @ender2070 What about Conservatism? | Feb 07 21:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ender2070/@ender2070] @themadhatter is it not one of the wings of the same bird I was just talking about? | Feb 07 21:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ender2070/@ender2070] @ender2070 like why would #conservative #banksters fund #eco #green #communists ? A conundrum if you're not learned. | Feb 07 22:00 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ender2070/@ender2070] @themadhatter like why would #conservative #banksters fund #eco #green #communists ? A conundrum if you're not learned. | Feb 07 22:00 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Open hardware can yield dividends (ITWire) http://lwn.net/Articles/426786/rss | Feb 07 22:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ender2070/@ender2070] If Identi.ca isn't the #socialist twitter then why am I forced to give up the rights to my property? (CC license not optional) | Feb 07 22:01 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Open hardware can yield dividends (ITWire) [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 6.22 KB | Feb 07 22:01 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I've got one for you :) | Feb 07 22:03 |
| DaemonFC | What do a Republican and a sperm cell have in common? | Feb 07 22:03 |
| DaemonFC | They both have a one in a million chance of becoming human someday :) | Feb 07 22:03 |
| MinceR | :> | Feb 07 22:07 |
| DaemonFC | some bot tried to send me an IM worm over YIM just now | Feb 07 22:09 |
| DaemonFC | it displayed as plaintext of course since I don't allow HTML, and it was no doubt meant for Windows and Yahoo Messenger | Feb 07 22:10 |
| DaemonFC | damn those minor annoyances :) | Feb 07 22:10 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Home Dash: Try The New Mozilla Labs Experimental Addon For Firefox 4 http://bit.ly/geHVyf | Feb 07 22:16 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Home Dash: Try The New Mozilla Labs Experimental Addon For Firefox 4 ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog .::. Size~: 56.11 KB | Feb 07 22:16 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] IBM uncloaks 20 petaflops BlueGene/Q super (The Register, Nov): http://bit.ly/elqz4L | Feb 07 22:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] George Bush issued travel warning by human rights organisations - http://bit.ly/gdiucF excellent precedent being set #torture | Feb 07 22:25 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: IBM uncloaks 20 petaflops BlueGene/Q super • The Register .::. Size~: 26.19 KB | Feb 07 22:25 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @qu1j0t3: #Murdoch for Dummies: Come for the tits on page 3, stay for the #WAR drumbeat. | Feb 07 22:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Off to bed. | Feb 07 22:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @qu1j0t3: Huff Post for Dummies: Come for the article amplifying the right #noisemachine's latest turdblossom, stay for celebrity gossip. | Feb 07 22:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @qu1j0t3 .... Germany has suspended arms exports to Egypt, citing human rights concerns. #jan25 #egypt | Feb 07 22:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @qu1j0t3: #Murdoch's business: "I've got votes and public opinion to sell, who's buying?" #AnyQuestions | Feb 07 22:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Open Attribute is a simple way to attribute CC-licensed works on the web, but how does it work? http://bit.ly/fRVaHL | Feb 07 22:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Bush to face torture case whenever abroad: activists http://ur1.ca/3586q | Feb 07 22:30 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Why Obama and the chamber are getting friendlier http://ur1.ca/3587v groomed to serve people or just a lobby for corporations? Sad... | Feb 07 22:36 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Ezra Klein - Why Obama and the chamber are getting friendlier .::. Size~: 102.04 KB | Feb 07 22:36 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♻ @dfscot Is anything as annoying as clicking on a link on Twitter which looks interesting only to find it takes you to a paywall? | Feb 07 22:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] Java DoS bug in The Reg was first reported in 2001; OpenJDK community already offered a fix: http://wmk.me/i5YyS8 | Feb 07 22:40 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Fix for JDK Double.parseDouble infinite loop .::. Size~: 3.68 KB | Feb 07 22:40 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "there are estimates of up to 300 deaths as a result of the protests and reactions." http://ur1.ca/35896 #egypt | Feb 07 22:41 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Extrajudicial Killing in Egypt at Robert Pogson .::. Size~: 30.28 KB | Feb 07 22:42 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Corruption in #Egypt http://ur1.ca/3589n looting me softly with his song... | Feb 07 22:46 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Corruption in Egypt at Robert Pogson .::. Size~: 29.04 KB | Feb 07 22:46 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @carlopiana welcome to the wonderful world of the NYT ;) | Feb 07 22:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Arctic fish catch vastly underreported (by 10e5 metric tons) for 5 decades - http://bit.ly/g1ZmiC insanity (v @umairh @Climatechg) | Feb 07 22:51 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Online Media Fight Internet Clampdown http://ur1.ca/358b4 #MALAYSIA #censorship | Feb 07 22:53 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: MALAYSIA: Online Media Fight Internet Clampdown - IPS ipsnews.net .::. Size~: 58.85 KB | Feb 07 22:53 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Israel's secret hotline to the man tipped to replace Mubarak | Telegraph http://is.gd/aSI6A6 !wl | Feb 07 22:56 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: WikiLeaks: Israel's secret hotline to the man tipped to replace Mubarak - Telegraph .::. Size~: 69.18 KB | Feb 07 22:56 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Resolution Calling to Amend the Constitution Banning Corporate Personhood Introduced in Vermont http://ur1.ca/306zi "have no consciences" | Feb 07 22:58 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Resolution Calling to Amend the Constitution Banning Corporate Personhood Introduced in Vermont | News & Politics | AlterNet .::. Size~: 107.2 KB | Feb 07 22:58 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The Koch Brothers' Vast Right-Wing Media Conspiracy http://ur1.ca/358ct they turned the media/papers into a 24/7 lies machines. Criminals. | Feb 07 23:01 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The Koch Brothers' Vast Right-Wing Media Conspiracy | Mother Jones .::. Size~: 108.32 KB | Feb 07 23:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @wikileaks2 Israel's secret hotline to the man tipped to replace Mubarak | Telegraph http://is.gd/aSI6A6 !wl | Feb 07 23:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @ender2070 Money. | Feb 07 23:03 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[hazzy/@hazzy] @themadhatter It was either Obama, or ... shudder ... McCain. | Feb 07 23:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] RT @debian !debian The official release announcement has just been sent! #squeeze is official now! :D | Feb 07 23:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] RT @schiessle European Parliament starts !FreeSoftware (FS) user group, to increase the use of FS in the parliament http://ur1.ca/3544l ... | Feb 07 23:08 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @hazzy Tweedledumb or Tweedledumber. Why vote for the lesser of two evils http://cthulhu.org/ | Feb 07 23:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Reviews:First impressions of #SalineOS 1.0 http://ur1.ca/358en Free time experiments: GhostBSD, Zorin OS4, Mandriva 2011 http://ur1.ca/358eq | Feb 07 23:11 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Israel's secret hotline to the man tipped to replace Mubarak | Telegraph http://is.gd/aSI6A6 !wl | Feb 07 23:11 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: DistroWatch.com: Put the fun back into computing. Use Linux, BSD. .::. Size~: 98.55 KB | Feb 07 23:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Mandriva Linux Chronicles: Free time experiments: GhostBSD, Zorin OS4, Mandriva 2011 TP .::. Size~: 90.78 KB | Feb 07 23:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: WikiLeaks: Israel's secret hotline to the man tipped to replace Mubarak - Telegraph .::. Size~: 69.18 KB | Feb 07 23:11 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Open Source Alternatives to Google http://ur1.ca/358ey Google Apps and Gmail need replacing too (proprietary), FOSS options exist | Feb 07 23:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] Arr Matey from Lothian - knew those damned Scotts were all pirates! http://bit.ly/gEIoEX | Feb 07 23:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Johannesburg Stock Exchange to move to #Linux http://ur1.ca/358f6 important scoop from @codepope | Feb 07 23:13 | |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Sweet Six: Falling In Love With Debian, Again | Muktware .::. Size~: 26.53 KB | Feb 07 23:13 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Sweet Six: Falling In Love With #Debian , Again http://ur1.ca/358f6 Why Debian matters more than ever http://ur1.ca/358fr #gnu #linux | Feb 07 23:15 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Sweet Six: Falling In Love With Debian, Again | Muktware .::. Size~: 26.53 KB | Feb 07 23:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Open Source Report: Why Debian matters more than ever | Network World .::. Size~: 93.95 KB | Feb 07 23:15 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Neary: Drawing up a roadmap http://lwn.net/Articles/426794/rss | Feb 07 23:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] First look: #Debian 6.0 Squeeze http://ur1.ca/358g0 looks great, said to be working great - @sjvn caused a lot of provocation | Feb 07 23:16 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Neary: Drawing up a roadmap [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 6.15 KB | Feb 07 23:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: First look: Debian 6.0 Squeeze - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 45.03 KB | Feb 07 23:16 |
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| ejameson | this is very disappointing | Feb 07 23:19 |
| ejameson | http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/02/the-gnomemono-hackfest-is-here-officially/ | Feb 07 23:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The GNOME+Mono hackfest is here, officially .::. Size~: 59.64 KB | Feb 07 23:19 |
| schestowitz | Hi | Feb 07 23:19 |
| ejameson | hi | Feb 07 23:19 |
| ejameson | I noticed you've posted about omgubuntu before | Feb 07 23:19 |
| schestowitz | Ew... both gnome and monome? | Feb 07 23:19 |
| ejameson | and was wondering if you'd seen this latest article | Feb 07 23:19 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Joining the fray: Why #Debian matters http://ur1.ca/358gn more responses to @sjvn disagreeing with the project's goal :-/ | Feb 07 23:20 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Joining the fray: Why Debian matters « Larry the Free Software Guy .::. Size~: 52.86 KB | Feb 07 23:20 |
| schestowitz | I hadn't | Feb 07 23:20 |
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| ejameson | there's also another banshee article (on windows) | Feb 07 23:20 |
| ejameson | the most disappointing thing about the gnome/mono hackfest thing is that GNOME Foundation funded it | Feb 07 23:21 |
| ejameson | not novell | Feb 07 23:21 |
| schestowitz | David Nielsen.. | Feb 07 23:21 |
| schestowitz | Banshee and Mono pusher | Feb 07 23:21 |
| ejameson | ah | Feb 07 23:21 |
| ejameson | is he on the gnome board? | Feb 07 23:22 |
| schestowitz | who wrote the latest bansh** piece? | Feb 07 23:22 |
| ejameson | hold on, lemme find it | Feb 07 23:22 |
| ejameson | http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/02/banshee-pre-alpha-for-windows-a-quick-run-down/ | Feb 07 23:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Banshee Pre-alpha for Windows: A quick run down .::. Size~: 64.59 KB | Feb 07 23:22 |
| ejameson | joey sneddon | Feb 07 23:22 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Israel secret hotline to the man tipped to replace Mubarak | Telegraph http://is.gd/aSI6A6 !wl | Feb 07 23:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] Game On Spotlight: Bar Fight http://mzl.la/gbUKYx | Feb 07 23:23 | |
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| schestowitz | Oh, ok | Feb 07 23:23 |
| ejameson | who's he? | Feb 07 23:24 |
| ejameson | another mono pusher? | Feb 07 23:24 |
| schestowitz | No | Feb 07 23:24 |
| schestowitz | Founder I think | Feb 07 23:24 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Linux shakedown: Testing both #GNOME 3 and #Fedora 15 http://ur1.ca/358hl "Fedora Project decided to do something very intelligent" | Feb 07 23:25 | |
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| ejameson | not good that he's 1. pushing banshee and 2. pushing windows | Feb 07 23:25 |
| ejameson | also they should stop allowing that david neilson guy to post if he's a mono pusher | Feb 07 23:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Firefox 2011 Roadmap Updated, Expect Firefox 7 in 2011 http://ur1.ca/358i8 playing loose with the numbers, like #Chrome #Opera and #MSIE | Feb 07 23:26 | |
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| ejameson | I guess canonical let anyone into their community these days | Feb 07 23:27 |
| ejameson | s/canonical/ubuntu/ | Feb 07 23:27 |
| ejameson | and into their public face as well | Feb 07 23:27 |
| MinceR | gn | Feb 07 23:28 |
| schestowitz | It's not Canonical | Feb 07 23:28 |
| schestowitz | good n8 | Feb 07 23:28 |
| ejameson | most people I know think that omgubuntu is an official news source for ubuntu | Feb 07 23:29 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] W3C Launches Web and TV Interest Group http://ow.ly/1be2tU | Feb 07 23:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #LinuxDistro : Linux Console http://ur1.ca/358ii not just a console... | Feb 07 23:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Linux gets work done! http://ur1.ca/358il and fast, too | Feb 07 23:30 | |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Linux gets work done! .::. Size~: 69.74 KB | Feb 07 23:30 |
| ejameson | if that's not the case, ubuntu needs to make ti clar that omgubuntu does not speak for them especially when they push windows/mono | Feb 07 23:31 |
| ejameson | it clear | Feb 07 23:31 |
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| cubezzz | yeah well... not exactly my first choice distro | Feb 07 23:32 |
| cubezzz | and I use a lot of different distros | Feb 07 23:33 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Tickets for EFF's 21st Birthday Party are on sale now. The lineup is amazing. https://eff.org/r.1xQ #nerdcore #chiptune | Feb 07 23:33 | |
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| ejameson | ubuntu? it's probably one of the more widely publicized distros though | Feb 07 23:33 |
| ejameson | which makes it important that they don't ship mono | Feb 07 23:33 |
| ejameson | or have anything to do with mono | Feb 07 23:34 |
| cubezzz | I'm not saying you're wrong there | Feb 07 23:34 |
| ejameson | I mostly run Arch | Feb 07 23:34 |
| cubezzz | just saying if you don't like Ubuntu, there are plenty of other distros :) | Feb 07 23:34 |
| ejameson | but I have an ubuntu box as well | Feb 07 23:35 |
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| cubezzz | Vector Linux, FC1, Debian, in that order for me | Feb 07 23:36 |
| cubezzz | and BL3 | Feb 07 23:36 |
| ejameson | ah | Feb 07 23:36 |
| cubezzz | FC1 has been field tested since 2004 | Feb 07 23:36 |
| cubezzz | so I have pretty high confidence in it | Feb 07 23:37 |
| ejameson | I didn't like FC1 | Feb 07 23:37 |
| cubezzz | why is that? | Feb 07 23:37 |
| ejameson | that's when I stopped running RH | Feb 07 23:37 |
| ejameson | it just didn't "feel" as good as previous RH distros | Feb 07 23:38 |
| ejameson | it's so long ago, I don't really remember | Feb 07 23:38 |
| cubezzz | a bit vague :) | Feb 07 23:38 |
| ejameson | I haven't tried fedora since | Feb 07 23:38 |
| ejameson | heh, I know | Feb 07 23:38 |
| ejameson | I think I switched to Ubuntu around then | Feb 07 23:39 |
| ejameson | and ran that for a few years | Feb 07 23:39 |
| ejameson | I ran RH9 for years | Feb 07 23:40 |
| ejameson | oh, just remembered I switched to debian after RH9 | Feb 07 23:40 |
| ejameson | and then Ubuntu shortly after it came out in... 2005? | Feb 07 23:40 |
| ejameson | stuck with ubuntu until 9.10 or so | Feb 07 23:41 |
| ejameson | hen a friend who ran Arch convinced me to try it and I'm happy, so no sense switching to anything else ;) | Feb 07 23:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Cable: Introducing Eduardo Frei: Chile's Center-Left Presidential | Feb 07 23:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @schestowitz: ♻ @wikileaks2 Israel's secret hotline to the man tipped to replace Mubarak | Telegraph http://is.gd/aSI6A6 !wl | Feb 07 23:41 | |
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| cubezzz | I wanted to stick with KDE <= 3.5.10 | Feb 07 23:42 |
| ejameson | heh | Feb 07 23:42 |
| cubezzz | so I decided to keep FC1 on one box | Feb 07 23:42 |
| ejameson | I prefer gnome, just not happy about mono poison | Feb 07 23:42 |
| schestowitz | [23:31] <ejameson> if that's not the case, ubuntu needs to make ti clar that omgubuntu does not speak for them especially when they push windows/mono | Feb 07 23:42 |
| schestowitz | But Ubuntu does too | Feb 07 23:42 |
| schestowitz | Mono | Feb 07 23:42 |
| cubezzz | I like klipper | Feb 07 23:42 |
| schestowitz | Bansheee. | Feb 07 23:42 |
| schestowitz | Ubuntu One for win32 | Feb 07 23:42 |
| ejameson | schestowitz: I know :( | Feb 07 23:43 |
| cubezzz | and kweatherservice | Feb 07 23:43 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @glynmoody: George Bush issued travel warning by human rights organisations - http://bit.ly/gdiucF excellent precedent being set #torture | Feb 07 23:43 | |
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| ejameson | mono trolls force their grubby fingers into everything and corrupt it from within | Feb 07 23:44 |
| cubezzz | no mono in 2.4 | Feb 07 23:44 |
| cubezzz | no mono in 2.2 :) | Feb 07 23:44 |
| ejameson | and people trust them | Feb 07 23:44 |
| ejameson | cubezzz: 2.4/2.2 of what? | Feb 07 23:45 |
| cubezzz | Linux kernel | Feb 07 23:45 |
| ejameson | ah, hah | Feb 07 23:45 |
| ejameson | yea, but I don't want to go back to such an old system | Feb 07 23:45 |
| cubezzz | the thing is, if you have old computers, why not run old Linux | Feb 07 23:45 |
| cubezzz | I can't think of a reason why not | Feb 07 23:45 |
| ejameson | I don't really have old computers anymore | Feb 07 23:45 |
| ejameson | oldest one is only 3 years old | Feb 07 23:46 |
| ejameson | maybe 4 | Feb 07 23:46 |
| cubezzz | this one box has a 17 year old hard drive | Feb 07 23:46 |
| cubezzz | still works | Feb 07 23:46 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Cable: Six Charged in Death of Former Chilean President | Feb 07 23:46 | |
| ejameson | I've never had a hd last that long | Feb 07 23:47 |
| ejameson | I get 5 or 6 years tops | Feb 07 23:47 |
| cubezzz | yeah, it's exceptional but... | Feb 07 23:47 |
| cubezzz | I have a 10+ fujistu as well | Feb 07 23:47 |
| cubezzz | probably made in the year 2000 | Feb 07 23:47 |
| cubezzz | in theory a hard drive could last 30 years | Feb 07 23:48 |
| ejameson | back to the mono thing | Feb 07 23:48 |
| ejameson | what can we do to get rid of it from distros? | Feb 07 23:48 |
| ejameson | everytime I bring it up at my local LUG, I just get dismissed as a "troll" | Feb 07 23:48 |
| cubezzz | the obvious solution is..... | Feb 07 23:48 |
| cubezzz | make your own distro | Feb 07 23:49 |
| ejameson | too much work | Feb 07 23:49 |
| ejameson | also that doesn't get rid of it from ubuntu etc | Feb 07 23:49 |
| ejameson | that's what I really want | Feb 07 23:49 |
| ejameson | mono pushers shouldn't be allowed to force their stuff on people | Feb 07 23:50 |
| ejameson | the problem is that most free software distro developers don't want to start a fight with them | Feb 07 23:50 |
| ejameson | so they just take the easier route and let them have their way | Feb 07 23:50 |
| cubezzz | I don't think Debian has mono | Feb 07 23:50 |
| ejameson | it does | Feb 07 23:50 |
| cubezzz | Debian Lenny? | Feb 07 23:50 |
| cubezzz | which one? | Feb 07 23:51 |
| ejameson | hmm, I forget | Feb 07 23:51 |
| cubezzz | I'm probably out of date as usual | Feb 07 23:51 |
| ejameson | but installing the gnome-desktop package pulls in tomboy at least | Feb 07 23:51 |
| ejameson | one of my friend who runs debian told me about that | Feb 07 23:51 |
| ejameson | I'd have to ask him again which version he runs | Feb 07 23:52 |
| cubezzz | hmmm, that could be why I missed it then | Feb 07 23:52 |
| ejameson | I don't know it offhand | Feb 07 23:52 |
| cubezzz | there are more succint OSes | Feb 07 23:52 |
| cubezzz | succinct | Feb 07 23:52 |
| ejameson | I think you can elect to install gnote, but tomboy is the default of the two | Feb 07 23:53 |
| cubezzz | even my BL3 install is kind of bloated | Feb 07 23:54 |
| ejameson | also concerning is apparently some of the fedora-design developers have standardized on sparkleshare which I just found out was mono | Feb 07 23:55 |
| cubezzz | slitaz was about 80 megs, pretty trim | Feb 07 23:55 |
| ejameson | (like I said, mono pushers get their grubby hands into everything and poison it) | Feb 07 23:55 |
| cubezzz | most people have undocumented bioses | Feb 07 23:56 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] UK Guardian journalist 'expelled from Russia' http://alturl.com/kawzo !wl | Feb 07 23:56 | |
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| cubezzz | hardly anyone even thinks about that | Feb 07 23:56 |
| ejameson | bios or bias? | Feb 07 23:57 |
| cubezzz | BIOS | Feb 07 23:57 |
| ejameson | ah, ok, just making sure it wasn't a typo | Feb 07 23:57 |
| ejameson | cuz both could make sense ;) | Feb 07 23:57 |
| cubezzz | secret scanner protocols, etc | Feb 07 23:57 |
| cubezzz | I can think of a lot of problems | Feb 07 23:57 |
| cubezzz | analog devices with their undocumented chips | Feb 07 23:58 |
| ejameson | well, I gotta go out and get some dinner | Feb 07 23:58 |
| cubezzz | oh not to mention windows only bios update programs ;0 | Feb 07 23:58 |
| ejameson | was good chatting | Feb 07 23:58 |
| cubezzz | ok, later :) | Feb 07 23:58 |
| ejameson | oh god I hate those | Feb 07 23:58 |
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