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qu1j0t3schestowitz: hahaa i assume you're familiar with Bill Gates Sycophantic WatchMar 03 02:08
qu1j0t3techflashMar 03 02:08
*qu1j0t3 just discovered itMar 03 02:09
qu1j0t3(I inserted the word sycophantic, because frankly anything short of calling for his arrest is sycophancy)Mar 03 02:09
Quadrescencequ1j0t3: schestowitz: maybe this is old http://blogs.forbes.com/andygreenberg/2011/03/02/docs-reveal-tsa-plan-to-body-scan-pedestrians-train-passengers/Mar 03 04:20
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Documents Reveal TSA Research Proposal To Body-Scan Pedestrians, Train Passengers - Andy Greenberg - The Firewall - Forbes .::. Size~: 151.43 KBMar 03 04:20
Quadrescencebut i thought you guys might be interested ;)Mar 03 04:20
qu1j0t3i saw it a while back.Mar 03 04:26
qu1j0t3disturbing, but predictable since it fits the agendaMar 03 04:26
schestowitz[02:08] <qu1j0t3> techflashMar 03 05:28
schestowitzFunded by B0ngMar 03 05:28
schestowitzIt's just some fawningMar 03 05:28
schestowitzTodd Bishop has always been a Mary Jo wannabe of sortsMar 03 05:29
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FurnaceBoyschestowitz: http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2010/mar/24/bernard-madoff-whistleblower-harry-markopolos?INTCMP=ILCNETTXT3487Mar 03 05:52
TechrightsBot-scTitle: The man who blew the whistle on Bernard Madoff | Business | The Guardian .::. Size~: 102.57 KBMar 03 05:52
FurnaceBoy" "If you're a whistleblower, you need to be eccentric. You have to have a firm belief in your core values and you have to be willing to risk it all to do what's right."Mar 03 05:52
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schestowitzYeahMar 03 06:04
schestowitzBut...Mar 03 06:05
schestowitzMadoff is small fishMar 03 06:05
schestowitzGo after GOldman, JP Morgan etc.Mar 03 06:05
schestowitzEven pearly GatesMar 03 06:05
schestowitzThat won't happenMar 03 06:05
schestowitzToo big to jail, they own the system and bought people's love and admiration for their existence ('charity', 'job creation', etc.)Mar 03 06:05
schestowitzThe mainstream media plays along with them because it's own by the same "Boys Club"Mar 03 06:06
schestowitzSo they don't need to be bribed like The Guardian, eitherMar 03 06:06
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FurnaceBoyschestowitz: yes.Mar 03 06:13
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: but when public conviction of this reaches critical mass -- as it MUST -- we 're going to see something :DMar 03 06:13
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schestowitzRemember this:Mar 03 06:14
schestowitzMany people are said to have blown the whistle on himMar 03 06:14
schestowitzBut people would not believe themMar 03 06:15
schestowitzThe same thing goes for many plutocratsMar 03 06:15
schestowitzHe was finally convicted when they needed to show they can flex some musclesMar 03 06:15
schestowitzThe question is, why take on him and not Blankfein..?Mar 03 06:15
schestowitzTaiibi said the mistake Madoff made it that he stole from rich investors, not poor people with mortgageMar 03 06:16
schestowitzHe enraged the owner of the countryMar 03 06:16
schestowitzStalkers at it again... http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/browse_frm/thread/43257c84a0dae7d7#Mar 03 07:43
TechrightsBot-scTitle: comp.os.linux.advocacy |   Google Groups .::. Size~: 29.4 KBMar 03 07:43
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MinceRhttp://www.reddit.com/tb/fw23gMar 03 07:53
TechrightsBot-scTitle: My sister (devout Catholic) stopped talking to me last week... via reddit.com .::. Size~: 1.66 KBMar 03 07:53
schestowitzDentedMar 03 08:07
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schestowitzqu1j0t3: https://twitter.com/Str8curious6/status/43220643952599040Mar 03 08:28
TechrightsBot-sc@Str8curious6: @schestowitz stupid faggotMar 03 08:28
schestowitzLOLMar 03 08:28
schestowitzToucheMar 03 08:28
schestowitzresponse to "♺ @lamm Keep your #Boehner out of my uterus! http://ur1.ca/3dai0 #political #humor #liberal #prochoice #abortion #Republican"Mar 03 08:28
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Keep your Boehner out of my Uterus! .::. Size~: 12.94 KBMar 03 08:28
schestowitzGOP bait..Mar 03 08:28
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schestowitzMinceR: just found this in identica: http://asset.soup.io/asset/1600/3087_888b.jpegMar 03 08:39
TechrightsBot-scNot a web page! Aborting image/jpeg typeMar 03 08:39
schestowitzwhat's true is that only when I go to America I see people on trolleys in the supermarket, as opposed to just food. But obesity is a problem in Europe too, I just don't tend to see the super heavyweights (like 600lb)Mar 03 08:46
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oiaohmschestowitz: have split the paper into three independant papers.  Now its working out sanely and is on line for about 5 to 7 pages each.Mar 03 09:12
schestowitzHi, oiaohmMar 03 09:14
schestowitzBTW, I've started doing the siteMar 03 09:14
schestowitzhttp://schestowitz.com/c/Mar 03 09:15
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Schestowitz » Scientific Freedom .::. Size~: 15.7 KBMar 03 09:15
schestowitzIt's a temporary thingMar 03 09:15
oiaohmschestowitz: I am also happier.  I found a hardware network design at a different scale that is close to the hardware design at the base of my Idea.Mar 03 09:15
oiaohmschestowitz: So I am not in the scary network zone of untested hardware patent.Mar 03 09:16
oiaohmPatent/pattern.Mar 03 09:16
schestowitzoiaohm: at a later stage would it be possible to add your nameMar 03 09:16
schestowitzI was thinking, in cases of remote work in another country we could use SSH but also a person closer to sitesMar 03 09:17
schestowitzFor physical accessMar 03 09:17
oiaohmI really wish we could find something better than ssh.Mar 03 09:18
oiaohmIe so they can show us what they have done clearly to stuff something up.Mar 03 09:18
oiaohmand we can then show them how not to screw it up again.Mar 03 09:18
oiaohmssh good for remote admin total crap training people.Mar 03 09:19
schestowitzHow so?Mar 03 09:19
schestowitzWith X forwarding too?Mar 03 09:19
schestowitzAt my job we don't have x stuff on the serverMar 03 09:19
schestowitzActually, in one job I doMar 03 09:19
oiaohmTraining you want to be like sitting down next to the person electronicly.Mar 03 09:20
schestowitzthe academic one lets us use X remotely, but it's being overloaded by some users (like I mentioned the other day)Mar 03 09:20
oiaohmSo you let them try to do the instructions.Mar 03 09:20
schestowitzYeahMar 03 09:20
oiaohmAnd if they start to stuff it up jump in.Mar 03 09:20
oiaohmIe ssh for training is not really designed for it.Mar 03 09:20
oiaohmIts really one of the weaknesses in Linux.Mar 03 09:21
oiaohmThat there is not a remote commandline system designed for training.Mar 03 09:21
oiaohmAs with all these things only when you start trying todo stuff do you work out what the weaknesses are.  schestowitzMar 03 09:22
schestowitzI'm not sure that I follow...Mar 03 09:23
oiaohmI have done remote training with people using teamviewer and rdp.  schestowitzMar 03 09:25
oiaohmAdvantage is that you can give person instructions then let them do it and watch.Mar 03 09:26
oiaohmIf they go todo the right thing correct.Mar 03 09:26
oiaohmOpps wrong thing correct.Mar 03 09:26
oiaohmssh to train people remotely I really don't know how to work that way.Mar 03 09:27
oiaohmI do have a nasty problem of planing ahead automatically.  schestowitzMar 03 09:29
oiaohmschestowitz: the site is looking Ok so far.Mar 03 09:29
schestowitzThanks, I appreciate you thinking soMar 03 09:30
schestowitzSoon I'll try to get clientMar 03 09:30
schestowitzIf there's several of us in more countries, then it can work betterMar 03 09:30
schestowitzThe site's content is still "dummy"Mar 03 09:31
schestowitzI'll need to do it properly, then move it to the root (/) using a redir.Mar 03 09:31
oiaohmschestowitz: And content is the pain in tail part.Mar 03 09:32
schestowitzIt needs to be conciseMar 03 09:32
schestowitzI still have lots of visitors coming to schestowitz.comMar 03 09:32
schestowitzBut the content is staleMar 03 09:32
schestowitzMost of it is from 2004-2005Mar 03 09:33
schestowitzThen I started concentrating on other sitesMar 03 09:33
oiaohmI guess moodle or the like for on-line training not that workable?Mar 03 09:33
schestowitzI think I might soon have four jobsMar 03 09:33
oiaohmIe side job.Mar 03 09:33
schestowitzBut the fourth one is sort of related to this... doing contractsMar 03 09:33
schestowitzI have a friend who can pass me deals, I think (he had them before, but I declined at the time)Mar 03 09:34
schestowitzBTW, deploying CMS is also possible as a service, but a lot of people already do thatMar 03 09:34
schestowitzWhere we're good is servers, coding, porting, etc.Mar 03 09:34
oiaohmYou just reminded me I have to renew my way of ordering MS OEM software.Mar 03 09:34
schestowitzCMS got too easyMar 03 09:34
schestowitzI remember back in the days (2004) what it was like to set up WordPressMar 03 09:35
oiaohmAlso you are wiser.  schestowitzMar 03 09:35
schestowitzNot reallyMar 03 09:35
oiaohmSo you don't make mistakes of doing major alterations without backups these days.Mar 03 09:35
schestowitzThat's just how the software works nowMar 03 09:35
schestowitzback then I had to hack .htaccessMar 03 09:35
schestowitzAnd to also install the theme manuallyMar 03 09:36
schestowitzSame for patchingMar 03 09:36
oiaohmYes it was worseMar 03 09:36
schestowitzNow it's very click-happyMar 03 09:36
oiaohmEverything is improving.Mar 03 09:36
schestowitzNot good for the old CMS empiresMar 03 09:36
schestowitzProprietary ones..Mar 03 09:36
schestowitzEven TypePad is sufferingMar 03 09:36
oiaohmDon't remind me.Mar 03 09:36
schestowitzDespite 'going' open sourceMar 03 09:36
oiaohmsharepoint is staying alive somehow.Mar 03 09:37
oiaohmTo my great misserly at times.Mar 03 09:37
MinceRbeing kept alive by idiots with way too much money?Mar 03 09:37
oiaohmMinceR: Idiots without a lot of money who blieve the statements that MS is cheeper to run.Mar 03 09:38
schestowitzHeheMar 03 09:38
oiaohmYes its cheeper until MS database eats your data.Mar 03 09:38
schestowitzi heard stories like thatMar 03 09:39
oiaohmAnd then you come to a person like me and start begging.Mar 03 09:39
schestowitzTearing down FOSS cause some manager thought Sharepoint was GodMar 03 09:39
schestowitz!google techrights sharepointMar 03 09:39
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schestowitzThere's also a wiki  page about itMar 03 09:39
oiaohmAt the worse part is most of the time I only charge if I do recover something MinceRMar 03 09:40
MinceRperhaps you need a change of policy :>Mar 03 09:40
MinceR"touching m$ crap -- +$100"Mar 03 09:40
oiaohmThe fee for assessment if its MS database is $150 AUD.  MinceRMar 03 09:41
oiaohmBut even so the assessment fee is not really paying for the assessment time.Mar 03 09:41
MinceRso it's too low :>Mar 03 09:42
schestowitzoiaohm: http://qldreconstruction.org.au/Mar 03 09:53
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Queensland Reconstruction Authority .::. Size~: 16.77 KBMar 03 09:53
oiaohmAnd a little shock horror another minor cyclone maybe on on way.  schestowitzMar 03 11:21
oiaohmschestowitz: city where I am only has minor damage from floods.Mar 03 11:21
oiaohmschestowitz: Its a once in about 70 event.Mar 03 11:27
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schestowitz70 years?Mar 03 12:29
oiaohmLast major set of floods in queenland was about 70 years back.  schestowitzMar 03 12:50
schestowitzI didn't know thatMar 03 13:06
schestowitzSigh.. http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=apple_107lion_dp1&num=3 http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=apple_107lion_dp1&num=1Mar 03 13:18
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TechrightsBot-scTitle: [Phoronix] Early Benchmarks Of Mac OS X 10.7 Lion .::. Size~: 20.96 KBMar 03 13:18
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/65957874Mar 03 13:19
TechrightsBot-sc@agentsmith's status on Thursday, 03-Mar-11 13:14:47 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Just it ??? I was expecting winblow$ 10 to do a blow job too... ;-DMar 03 13:19
schestowitzIt can blow up too. Mar 03 13:19
schestowitzre WInFS https://identi.ca/notice/65957848Mar 03 13:20
TechrightsBot-sc@Andrei Pascal (ave)'s status on Thursday, 03-Mar-11 13:14:20 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Acshally there's an addon (VirtuaWin) that provides this feature. I use it for several years...Mar 03 13:20
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/65958095Mar 03 13:22
TechrightsBot-sc@agentsmith's status on Thursday, 03-Mar-11 13:18:30 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz This is what it usually does... ;-DMar 03 13:22
schestowitzWhen you add Jobs to itMar 03 13:22
MinceRi use VirtuaWin on the client's laptop tooMar 03 13:22
MinceRit doesn't work so well as virtual desktops do on XMar 03 13:22
schestowitzWhat for?Mar 03 13:22
schestowitzOhMar 03 13:22
schestowitzWait..Mar 03 13:22
MinceRif an application hangs, you can't move or hide its windowMar 03 13:22
MinceRso it follows you aroundMar 03 13:23
schestowitzI thought he replied to te winfs thingMar 03 13:23
schestowitzI didn't check cointextMar 03 13:23
oiaohmVirtualWin can do virtual desktops not really.Mar 03 13:23
schestowitzAnd I remembered that Microsoft had folded that into some development platformMar 03 13:23
oiaohmThey are many many ways to break it.Mar 03 13:23
schestowitzto pretend it didn't kill winfsMar 03 13:23
MinceRif an application pops up a window (with focus stealing of course, since this is winblows), it appears no matter where you areMar 03 13:23
schestowitzoiaohm: Yes, I knowMar 03 13:23
oiaohmYou are better to use the explorer out of reactos.Mar 03 13:23
schestowitzvirtual desktops go way backMar 03 13:23
oiaohmros explorerMar 03 13:23
oiaohmIt has virtual desktops that works.Mar 03 13:23
schestowitzAs extensions... but you can do lots like that with Power Toys and 3rd party appsMar 03 13:23
oiaohmOk you desktop now looks like windows 2000Mar 03 13:24
oiaohmBut virtual desktops work.Mar 03 13:24
MinceRoiaohm: but can ReactOS fix the inherently broken message loop design?Mar 03 13:24
schestowitzYes, I saw it on win2000Mar 03 13:24
schestowitzA colleague of mine had itMar 03 13:24
schestowitzIt was c***Mar 03 13:24
MinceRm$ couldn't fix it, they only hacked in something to at least let you force close stuff after a delay in xp or 2k or soMar 03 13:24
schestowitzI had far better features on SUSE at the timeMar 03 13:24
schestowitzAt Microsoft it's VERY virtualMar 03 13:24
MinceR(and if novell2.0 implements CSD, ubuntu will be just as broken, btw)Mar 03 13:24
schestowitzSo virtual it's more like a hackMar 03 13:24
oiaohmReactos has worse problems than message loop problem.Mar 03 13:25
oiaohmMinceR:  Like completley no secuirty system.Mar 03 13:25
MinceRsure, it's based on the winnt designMar 03 13:25
MinceRso it's a set of design flawsMar 03 13:25
schestowitzRED Hat and Novell got sued for the implementation of virtual desktop the way it's done. Acacia snatched some Xerox patentMar 03 13:25
MinceRoiaohm: again, it's winblows :>Mar 03 13:25
oiaohmSecuirty system it is not even implemented.   MinceRMar 03 13:25
oiaohmMake Windows look secure.Mar 03 13:25
MinceRthey probably were realistic about itMar 03 13:25
MinceR"this system doesn't work anyway, so we won't waste time implementing it" :>Mar 03 13:25
schestowitzMake Windows look like an OS....Mar 03 13:25
oiaohmMinceR: Its on the road map to be implementedMar 03 13:26
schestowitzLifted by Gates from the garbage can too?Mar 03 13:26
MinceRschestowitz: PalmOS does that...Mar 03 13:26
oiaohmThey have not got to it yet. MinceRMar 03 13:26
MinceR"out of memory (Reset)"Mar 03 13:26
schestowitzImagine how it reached the garbage canMar 03 13:26
schestowitzProfessors: "it's rubbish, toss it in the wastebansket"Mar 03 13:26
MinceR:>Mar 03 13:26
schestowitzGates: "wow! Discaded code. Let's steal it."Mar 03 13:26
MinceRlolMar 03 13:26
schestowitzI wonder if his diet was the sameMar 03 13:27
MinceRwell yeah, gate$ likes to brag about learning from code fished out of the dumpsterMar 03 13:27
MinceRyou can see m$ could replicate that exact level of qualityMar 03 13:27
MinceRit still all belongs to the dumpsterMar 03 13:27
schestowitzHeheMar 03 13:27
schestowitzSome people use LinuxMar 03 13:27
schestowitzOther uses what's left in the garbageMar 03 13:27
schestowitz"We've always been shameless about stealing great ideas." ~blowsMar 03 13:28
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/cheezburgrmania/status/43299534452953088Mar 03 13:28
TechrightsBot-sc@cheezburgrmania: @schestowitz Lol@ Win10 making your coffee, but it pro'ly will be on automated household devicesMar 03 13:28
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schestowitzhttp://bankofamericasuck.com/Mar 03 14:01
schestowitz"Mar 03 14:01
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Wikileaks Bank Of America Fraud And Corruption Documents. .::. Size~: 58.42 KBMar 03 14:01
schestowitzReal NewsMar 03 14:01
schestowitzAl Jazeera EnglishMar 03 14:01
schestowitzCrowd LeaksMar 03 14:01
schestowitzThe GuardianMar 03 14:01
schestowitzThe Raw StoryMar 03 14:01
schestowitzSalon Glenn GreenwaldMar 03 14:01
schestowitz"Mar 03 14:02
schestowitzNice for Glenn to be listed thereMar 03 14:02
schestowitz"Mar 03 14:02
schestowitzMy LeakRollMar 03 14:02
schestowitz#2011RevolutionMar 03 14:02
schestowitzPresstormMar 03 14:02
schestowitzThe Liberty LampMar 03 14:02
schestowitzWhy We FightMar 03 14:02
schestowitz"Mar 03 14:02
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/aletorto/status/43308018145820673Mar 03 14:08
TechrightsBot-sc@aletorto: RT @schestowitz: What's most valuable about #wikileaks is not the political stuff but the evidence of businesses (cont) http://tl.gd/93cgj6Mar 03 14:08
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gnufreexHaha, bill gates fished code from garbageMar 03 14:12
schestowitzYeah, he said soMar 03 14:14
schestowitzHe also said he illegally watched videos on YouTubeMar 03 14:14
schestowitzBut people think such crooks are heroes cause they spend about $400,000,000 per YEAR purely on PR (buying the press)Mar 03 14:15
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schestowitzThey=>heMar 03 14:15
schestowitzThe news becomes an agent for PRMar 03 14:15
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schestowitzI saw virtual desktops in Win2000, but they sucked in terms of features/performance. More like a hack..Mar 03 15:46
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/65969626Mar 03 16:14
TechrightsBot-sc@Andrei Pascal (ave)'s status on Thursday, 03-Mar-11 16:07:20 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz While I have to agree they're not even close to their X Window counterparts, they've improved greatly since then...Mar 03 16:14
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/65969840Mar 03 16:15
TechrightsBot-sc@Daniel Aguayo Catalán (danto)'s status on Thursday, 03-Mar-11 16:08:57 UTC - Identi.ca: ♻ @schestowitz: Before #wikileaks I didn't know what #EEUU was. Usually used in the context of some banana republic... #LOLMar 03 16:15
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/laurelrusswurm/status/43338718521733121Mar 03 16:15
TechrightsBot-sc@laurelrusswurm: @schestowitz That's because US government chose not to fix the problem but shoot the messenger <waiting to see if figurative or literal> #wlMar 03 16:15
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Deprogrammer9/status/43338818283257856Mar 03 16:15
TechrightsBot-sc@Deprogrammer9: @schestowitz beyond insanity! i'm sure Fox will spin the 9 dead boys with something like "they had weapons of mass destruction" WOOD! ಠ_ಠMar 03 16:15
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Deprogrammer9/status/43339628626980864Mar 03 16:15
TechrightsBot-sc@Deprogrammer9: @schestowitz @qu1j0t3 I just watched the film UNKNOWN & to my surprise the tables are turned this time. Not the best film but watchable.Mar 03 16:15
schestowitzWhat's that about?Mar 03 16:15
qu1j0t3i could guess :)Mar 03 16:17
qu1j0t3look at how war films are marketedMar 03 16:17
qu1j0t3remember they now have to negotiate the post-modern mindMar 03 16:17
qu1j0t3our grandparents' generation could just take literal propagandaMar 03 16:17
schestowitz"You must watch this film"Mar 03 16:17
qu1j0t3River Kwai, whatever.Mar 03 16:17
schestowitz"It's history, it's education"Mar 03 16:17
qu1j0t3but your 25..30..35..40 year olds require war films to be 'ironic'Mar 03 16:18
schestowitz"You need to learn about your legacy... and it's entertaining with a love story too"Mar 03 16:18
qu1j0t3as in 'yeah war is ugly rite? but we have to do it anyway'Mar 03 16:18
schestowitzLater on China DDOSes CNNMar 03 16:18
schestowitzAnd the Western media does not explain whyMar 03 16:18
schestowitzJust "some angry evil Chinese"Mar 03 16:18
qu1j0t3so the marketing for films like Hurt Locker calls it 'realism'Mar 03 16:18
qu1j0t3'we show both sides of war'Mar 03 16:18
schestowitzI remember when they did a protest in ManchesterMar 03 16:19
schestowitzI blogged it afterwardsMar 03 16:19
qu1j0t3which if anything is more hideous a fabrication than pure John Wayne Dirty Harry bullshitMar 03 16:19
schestowitzAt the time I couldn't get info about what the fuss  was all aboutMar 03 16:19
schestowitzManchester has a large Chinese communityMar 03 16:19
schestowitzqu1j0t3: recruitment firmsMar 03 16:19
schestowitzOr the Time coverDMar 03 16:19
schestowitzDid you see the picture I located for you BTW?Mar 03 16:20
qu1j0t3right, they can't be so 'honest' as to affect recruitmentMar 03 16:20
qu1j0t3but, recruiting minds is more important and cheaperMar 03 16:20
qu1j0t3people PAY to be indoctrinated!Mar 03 16:20
schestowitzAisha after the nose surgery (reconstruction)Mar 03 16:20
qu1j0t3it's the ultimate scamMar 03 16:20
schestowitzDid you see it?Mar 03 16:20
qu1j0t3$17 for the dose of crapMar 03 16:20
schestowitzYes, I knowMar 03 16:20
qu1j0t3no.Mar 03 16:20
schestowitzThey make it alluringMar 03 16:20
schestowitzDARN!Mar 03 16:20
schestowitzDo you know how hard I tried to find it for you !! :-)Mar 03 16:20
schestowitzWait..Mar 03 16:20
qu1j0t3she probably doesn't even know she's being usedMar 03 16:20
schestowitzOh, found it quickly this time: http://www.reddit.com/tb/f8a8hMar 03 16:21
TechrightsBot-scTitle: This woman now "nose" that science is better than religion will ever be. [Caution: graphic image] via reddit.com .::. Size~: 1.71 KBMar 03 16:21
schestowitzqu1j0t3: right!Mar 03 16:21
schestowitzSome do realise such thingsMar 03 16:21
schestowitzBut not kidsMar 03 16:21
schestowitzUnless their parents realise this and speak out about exploitation of their sufferingMar 03 16:21
schestowitzSo now Aisha has a new nose and an excuse for those who built it to bombard some of her fellow Afghans (??) Mar 03 16:22
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/65971440Mar 03 16:34
TechrightsBot-sc@Alan Pope (popey)'s status on Thursday, 03-Mar-11 16:30:17 UTC - Identi.ca: @sebsebseb Fedora have it too. Have you sufficiently berated them? Or is it just #Ubuntu that you, @schestowitz and @gnufreex taunt?Mar 03 16:34
sebsebsebschestowitz: oh not seen that yetMar 03 16:35
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/65971622Mar 03 16:35
TechrightsBot-sc@Dr. Roy Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Thursday, 03-Mar-11 16:32:57 UTC - Identi.ca: @popey I "taunt" Ubuntu? I defend Ubuntu more than you do. Maybe you were subjected to reality distortion field #Novell apologists created.Mar 03 16:35
schestowitzI ought to set the record straightMar 03 16:35
schestowitzSomeone got it into his head that I'm against UbuntuMar 03 16:35
schestowitzTotal BSMar 03 16:36
schestowitzI try to defend Ubuntu from BSMar 03 16:36
sebsebsebschestowitz: that's what I am about to do as wellMar 03 16:36
sebsebsebwhen I reply to thatMar 03 16:36
schestowitzInc. BANSHEE, which I warned them about last year and in 2009Mar 03 16:36
schestowitzTell him thatMar 03 16:36
schestowitzhe's deceived on thatMar 03 16:36
schestowitzCorrect him and explain there's a PR/lie going about to defame me and TechrightsMar 03 16:36
schestowitzI don't follow his dents, so I'll try to do this too, as long as he responds to meMar 03 16:37
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Deprogrammer9/status/43346151616942080Mar 03 16:37
TechrightsBot-sc@Deprogrammer9: @schestowitz man awakens from coma only to discover that someone has taken on his identity and that no one (not even his wife) believes himMar 03 16:37
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/65971812Mar 03 16:43
TechrightsBot-sc@Alan Pope (popey)'s status on Thursday, 03-Mar-11 16:35:58 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz So you weren't getting @sebsebseb to quiz me by co-ordination in #techrights ?Mar 03 16:43
schestowitzme: "@popey we were all talking at some stage about banshee and ubuntu. There's nothing secret, see the logs."Mar 03 16:43
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/65971864Mar 03 16:44
TechrightsBot-sc@Alan Pope (popey)'s status on Thursday, 03-Mar-11 16:37:02 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz This is why I have no time for #techrights. It's always about Novell. Note: it isnt.Mar 03 16:44
schestowitzBanshee is Novell's projectMar 03 16:44
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schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/65972630Mar 03 16:52
TechrightsBot-sc@Alan Pope (popey)'s status on Thursday, 03-Mar-11 16:47:08 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz _I_ wasnt talking about Banshee at _all_. That has nothing to do with this thread. Get a grip dude!Mar 03 16:52
schestowitzme: "My identica client does not show context"Mar 03 16:52
schestowitzHe looks for a fight/argumentMar 03 16:52
schestowitzNo point to itMar 03 16:52
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schestowitzqu1j0t3: https://twitter.com/dogdazed/status/43350664063094784Mar 03 16:53
TechrightsBot-sc@dogdazed: RT @schestowitz: Swedish prosecutors did look into charges; they dismissed them as not credible." http://ur1.ca/3dow0 #assange #wikileaksMar 03 16:53
TechrightsBot-sc-> Title: "If law fails, CIA will assassinate Assange" with subtitles | Universal Subtitles .::. Size~: 112.14 KBMar 03 16:53
qu1j0t3not just assange.Mar 03 16:54
qu1j0t3he has some protection of celebrityMar 03 16:54
qu1j0t3but all his collaborators can be killed or shutdown or suicided with little fanfareMar 03 16:54
schestowitzYeahMar 03 16:54
qu1j0t3probably already startedMar 03 16:55
qu1j0t3they're certainly being persecuted at borders etcMar 03 16:55
schestowitz"Assange was so upset by the allegations, so we found him after he had hanged himself"Mar 03 16:55
schestowitzRemember: Manning they immobilisedMar 03 16:55
schestowitzAssange is still a public faceMar 03 16:55
schestowitzIf they shoot the chief they harm the orgMar 03 16:56
schestowitzBy fear of lack of coordinationMar 03 16:56
qu1j0t3they'd prefer just to make it appear 'legal'Mar 03 16:56
qu1j0t3'he's a criminal so now he's looked up'Mar 03 16:56
schestowitzThe phony case is *already* taking its toll on himMar 03 16:56
qu1j0t3yes.Mar 03 16:56
schestowitzhe talks about some condom instead of intl' crimesMar 03 16:56
schestowitzLike CollateralMurderMar 03 16:56
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/65973160Mar 03 17:06
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/65973574Mar 03 17:06
TechrightsBot-sc@Alan Pope (popey)'s status on Thursday, 03-Mar-11 16:54:38 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Here. Have some context. It's free http://identi.ca/conversation/65187900#notice-65971099Mar 03 17:06
TechrightsBot-sc-> Title: Conversation - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 61.9 KBMar 03 17:06
TechrightsBot-sc@Timothy Redaelli (drizztbsd)'s status on Thursday, 03-Mar-11 17:00:23 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz yes it does, just click on "in reply to"Mar 03 17:06
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/65973996Mar 03 17:07
TechrightsBot-sc@Dr. Roy Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Thursday, 03-Mar-11 17:04:35 UTC - Identi.ca: @drizztbsd in #choqok I can only view context one level upMar 03 17:07
schestowitzqu1j0t3: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/02/opinion/02friedman.html?_r=1Mar 03 17:20
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Log In - The New York Times .::. Size~: 10.21 KBMar 03 17:21
schestowitzYour buddyMar 03 17:21
schestowitzcontext: @oli2be: A Bigger Revolution Is Brewing http://bit.ly/g3aErl /@1913Intel #Saudi #China [+] < We can only hope I guessMar 03 17:21
TechrightsBot-scTitle: A Bigger Revolution Is Brewing | 1913 Intel .::. Size~: 59.94 KBMar 03 17:21
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schestowitzhttp://friendlyatheist.com/2011/03/01/aclu-of-virginia-defends-christian-students/Mar 03 21:31
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Friendly Atheist    » ACLU of Virginia Defends Christian Students .::. Size~: 105.73 KBMar 03 21:31
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/43341748373692416 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/43341546300506112  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/43340887031431168Mar 03 21:50
TechrightsBot-sc@schestowitz: For the uninitiated, we have a page about #gatesfoundation http://ur1.ca/1e8bh (almost 20k non-cached pageviews) #techrightsMar 03 21:50
TechrightsBot-sc-> Title: Gates Foundation Critique - Techrights .::. Size~: 67.67 KBMar 03 21:51
TechrightsBot-sc@schestowitz: People who join Big Pharma companies soon completely lose their character, told me a friend who is a human sciences professor. #profitFirstMar 03 21:51
TechrightsBot-sc@schestowitz: It is rather sickening to see how the Microsoft boosters started breeding hatred of Mark Shuttleworth while ignoring real thieves. #pr #spinMar 03 21:51
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/43230374024855552Mar 03 22:03
TechrightsBot-sc@schestowitz: ♺ @laurelrusswurm The Canadian Government should be doubling environmental spending not halving it http://ur1.ca/3dbut #cdnpoli #CanadaMar 03 22:03
TechrightsBot-sc-> Title: Federal government to cut environmental spending .::. Size~: 195.73 KBMar 03 22:03
schestowitzhttp://tinyogg.com/watch/GSXWJ/Mar 03 22:09
TechrightsBot-scTitle: TinyOgg - Watch: Linus Torvalds vs. Rauni-Leena Luukanen .::. Size~: 5.42 KBMar 03 22:09
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