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| schestowitz | LOL | Mar 07 11:01 |
| schestowitz | MSP -Microsoft student peons | Mar 07 11:02 |
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| schestowitz | oiaohm: I had another pass through the site http://schestowitz.com/c/ | Mar 13 14:12 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Schestowitz ยป Scientific Freedom .::. Size~: 19.55 KB | Mar 13 14:12 |
| schestowitz | Basically, if there's work or someone based in Australia, then you can get business | Mar 13 14:12 |
| schestowitz | I'm assuming qu1j0t3 and Quadrescence too as only implicitly included (not named) would be OK | Mar 13 14:13 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: Banner upto of site hope there is something else planed on there. | Mar 13 14:16 |
| oiaohm | Lot of screen space. in it for 2 lines of text. | Mar 13 14:17 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: banner is not final, not so polished either | Mar 13 14:18 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: and yes, it's short | Mar 13 14:18 |
| schestowitz | Cause it's more like a brochure | Mar 13 14:18 |
| schestowitz | Just something to have people get in touch for contract work | Mar 13 14:18 |
| oiaohm | Content is the hard bit. | Mar 13 14:25 |
| oiaohm | Its like a newpaper all the best hooks have to be on the front page. | Mar 13 14:25 |
| schestowitz | I put some image sliders | Mar 13 14:25 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: about marketing, without disclosing who the chat was with, here goes: | Mar 13 14:26 |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 13 14:26 |
| schestowitz | > Hi! | Mar 13 14:26 |
| schestowitz | Hello! Was wondering about you... | Mar 13 14:26 |
| schestowitz | Apologies for a belated response. I moved into the house on Tuesday and BT has not connected the broadband connection yet. I finally got a dongle, which allows me to use cellular networks to connect to the Internet in the interim. | Mar 13 14:26 |
| schestowitz | > Well, I imagine you're in the process of moving this week, and getting | Mar 13 14:26 |
| schestowitz | > things sorted out at your new home. Moving is always such an adventure. | Mar 13 14:26 |
| schestowitz | > From the picture you sent it looks like a nice comfortable place with lots | Mar 13 14:26 |
| schestowitz | > of light and space. | Mar 13 14:26 |
| schestowitz | Yes, it's nice! | Mar 13 14:26 |
| schestowitz | > Do you have a balcony too? If so, that could be a great place to have a nice | Mar 13 14:26 |
| schestowitz | > cup of tea on quiet sunny mornings, in the summertime. | Mar 13 14:26 |
| schestowitz | No balcony :-( :-( | Mar 13 14:26 |
| schestowitz | > For me, early mornings are the best time of day. Weather permitting, I | Mar 13 14:26 |
| schestowitz | > always spend some time outside, listening to the birds chirp and watching | Mar 13 14:26 |
| schestowitz | > the stars fade as the sun comes up. I especially love rainy mornings, but | Mar 13 14:26 |
| schestowitz | > they are very rare here (I imagine they're not quite so rare where you are). | Mar 13 14:26 |
| schestowitz | Rain is common enough here to be loathed :-) | Mar 13 14:26 |
| schestowitz | > Anyway, I have a little extra time this morning to catch up with emails. I | Mar 13 14:26 |
| schestowitz | > actually started writing this one last week, but never had time to properly | Mar 13 14:26 |
| schestowitz | > finish it up...so I'll try to get this sent today. | Mar 13 14:26 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 13 14:26 |
| schestowitz | > Before I go further though...You mentioned Nina Paley, and said you didn't | Mar 13 14:27 |
| schestowitz | > know what she looked like. lol - I can't believe I'm going to say this, | Mar 13 14:27 |
| schestowitz | > but... "Here, let me Google that for you." (Her picture is attached). | Mar 13 14:27 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 13 14:27 |
| schestowitz | > ;) | Mar 13 14:27 |
| schestowitz | Fantastic! Thanks. | Mar 13 14:27 |
| schestowitz | > What kept me from finishing this sooner were some rather astounding | Mar 13 14:27 |
| schestowitz | > statements you made in your last reply to me. Mostly because I couldn't be | Mar 13 14:27 |
| schestowitz | > sure how to take them or how to respond. Were they aimed at me? I couldn't | Mar 13 14:27 |
| schestowitz | > tell, really, but they did seem a little accusatory at first glance. | Mar 13 14:27 |
| schestowitz | I'm quite shocked if I said something upsetting? Who, me?! Must be just how it looks in text.. :-) | Mar 13 14:27 |
| schestowitz | > Since I know you'd never mean to be unkind, I decided to read them again and | Mar 13 14:27 |
| schestowitz | > think about my answers a little more before I wrote back. So, below are | Mar 13 14:27 |
| schestowitz | > those answers. | Mar 13 14:27 |
| schestowitz | Thanks, let me reread and respond. | Mar 13 14:27 |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 13 14:27 |
| sebsebseb | uh I have to guess who said what with that? | Mar 13 14:28 |
| sebsebseb | and what's that got to do with Mageia, I see nothing so far | Mar 13 14:28 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: ? | Mar 13 14:29 |
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| schestowitz | sebsebseb: yeah, just checking there's no identifying details... | Mar 13 14:38 |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 13 14:39 |
| schestowitz | > ...................................................... | Mar 13 14:39 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 13 14:39 |
| schestowitz | > ~ On the subject of Corporations vs. small, single-owner, independent | Mar 13 14:39 |
| schestowitz | > businesses... | Mar 13 14:39 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 13 14:39 |
| schestowitz | > You wrote: *"One's own business is also corporate. Contribution to society | Mar 13 14:39 |
| schestowitz | > cannot be measured in terms of money; sometimes the relation ends up an | Mar 13 14:39 |
| schestowitz | > inversion; richest people are often exploiting the most, suggests a lot of | Mar 13 14:39 |
| schestowitz | > evidence."* | Mar 13 14:39 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 13 14:39 |
| schestowitz | > I've mulled this over all week, and still am not quite sure how you might | Mar 13 14:39 |
| schestowitz | > have applied that statement to me. All I can conclude is that you've | Mar 13 14:39 |
| schestowitz | > somehow misunderstood something I've written to you. | Mar 13 14:40 |
| schestowitz | Oh, this was not said in reference to you. Relates to me and Satipera debating capitalism the other week... :-) | Mar 13 14:40 |
| schestowitz | > For the record, I am not a corporation. I have no CEO, COO, CFO, no Board | Mar 13 14:40 |
| schestowitz | > of Directors, or investors, or franchises, or much of anything, except a | Mar 13 14:40 |
| schestowitz | > studio in my home (which lately seems to have taken over the whole bloomin' | Mar 13 14:40 |
| schestowitz | > house...lol), a passel of rag-tag home-built computers...and some good | Mar 13 14:40 |
| schestowitz | > creative/artistic skills, and a good work-ethic. | Mar 13 14:40 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 13 14:40 |
| schestowitz | > Your concept that any business, no matter how small, is still a potentially | Mar 13 14:40 |
| schestowitz | > exploitative corporate entity, is rather astounding. From personal | Mar 13 14:40 |
| schestowitz | > experience, I know that it's not true. Small businesses are not the same as | Mar 13 14:40 |
| schestowitz | > corporations. In fact, I'd say that small businesses are the way things | Mar 13 14:40 |
| schestowitz | > SHOULD be. And traditionally, whenever cottage industries, and small | Mar 13 14:40 |
| schestowitz | > family-run businesses are able to flourish, the economy benefits greatly. | Mar 13 14:40 |
| schestowitz | Indeed! Sorry if I was misunderstood there. | Mar 13 14:40 |
| schestowitz | > ~ On the subject of PR... | Mar 13 14:40 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 13 14:40 |
| schestowitz | > You wrote: *"PR industry can be harmful. I have strong feelings on the | Mar 13 14:40 |
| schestowitz | > subject."* | Mar 13 14:40 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 13 14:40 |
| schestowitz | > I'm a little confused by why you wrote that to me. It's not that I disagree | Mar 13 14:40 |
| schestowitz | > with it, it's just that it has no relationship to what I do here. I also | Mar 13 14:40 |
| schestowitz | > think the words "*can be*" are the key. Just because something CAN be | Mar 13 14:40 |
| schestowitz | > abused, doesn't automatically mean it MUST be. | Mar 13 14:40 |
| schestowitz | It was not said in reference to anyone particular really. Did you see Hicks on marketing? That's what came to my mind at the time. | Mar 13 14:40 |
| schestowitz | > The thing is, you know how people tend to toss everything into one basket | Mar 13 14:40 |
| schestowitz | > and assume the basket defines it all. Like the term "IP", for example, | Mar 13 14:40 |
| schestowitz | > which covers a multitude of things (copyright, trademarks, patents, etc.) | Mar 13 14:40 |
| schestowitz | > which, as we both know, really shouldn't be lumped together. | Mar 13 14:40 |
| schestowitz | Good example. Personally, I can defend trademarks. I try not to say "IP". :-) | Mar 13 14:40 |
| schestowitz | > I don't do corporate-type "PR" for anyone...not even for my own business. | Mar 13 14:40 |
| schestowitz | > Heck, I'm not even listed in the local phone book. | Mar 13 14:40 |
| schestowitz | Oh, it was not said about you. I hadn't realised it could be interpreted this way. | Mar 13 14:40 |
| schestowitz | > But I DO help other small businesses to advertise locally. Now, I want you | Mar 13 14:40 |
| schestowitz | > to think about this part very carefully... | Mar 13 14:40 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 13 14:40 |
| schestowitz | > Although you are correct that all advertising is some form of "PR" - public | Mar 13 14:40 |
| schestowitz | > relations does not automatically mean something bad. Some corporations | Mar 13 14:40 |
| schestowitz | > abuse PR by using it to tell lies and white-wash their bad behavior towards | Mar 13 14:40 |
| schestowitz | > their customers. | Mar 13 14:40 |
| schestowitz | I view PR as an umbrella which includes lies too, e.g. sockpuppets :-) | Mar 13 14:41 |
| schestowitz | > But it's wrong to lump small businesses into that same basket with dishonest | Mar 13 14:41 |
| schestowitz | > crooks. Just like it's wrong to lump all air travelers in with terrorists, | Mar 13 14:41 |
| schestowitz | > or to lump all Internet customers in with "pirates". | Mar 13 14:41 |
| schestowitz | Indeed. | Mar 13 14:41 |
| schestowitz | > Small, independent businesses are generally built around "niche products" | Mar 13 14:41 |
| schestowitz | > [or services]. Even if the whole wide world knew about them, by their very | Mar 13 14:41 |
| schestowitz | > nature they'd still have a very limited customer base. Most of the ones I | Mar 13 14:41 |
| schestowitz | > deal with are service-based, so they don't need to reach the whole world, | Mar 13 14:41 |
| schestowitz | > they just need to reach their local neighborhoods. The likelihood of any of | Mar 13 14:41 |
| schestowitz | > them growing into a mega-corp is very slim, most of them just want to make a | Mar 13 14:41 |
| schestowitz | > living by doing their own thing. | Mar 13 14:41 |
| schestowitz | I agree entirely. | Mar 13 14:41 |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 13 14:41 |
| nisshh | schestowitz, ever heard of pastebin? its a wonderful concept :) | Mar 13 14:41 |
| sebsebseb | heh @ nisshh | Mar 13 14:42 |
| nisshh | read: USE PASTEBIN FFS! | Mar 13 14:42 |
| nisshh | :) | Mar 13 14:42 |
| MinceR | :> | Mar 13 14:42 |
| sebsebseb | nisshh: he does a lot of this here, copys in stuff, that he could pastebin instead | Mar 13 14:43 |
| nisshh | sebsebseb, s/could/should/must/ | Mar 13 14:43 |
| sebsebseb | nisshh: uh? | Mar 13 14:43 |
| sebsebseb | what you mean? | Mar 13 14:43 |
| nisshh | sebsebseb, you dont know what s/// is do you? | Mar 13 14:44 |
| sebsebseb | nisshh: indeed | Mar 13 14:44 |
| MinceR | you used it incorrectly anyway :> | Mar 13 14:44 |
| nisshh | MinceR, now now, dont be a smartass | Mar 13 14:44 |
| MinceR | :> | Mar 13 14:44 |
| nisshh | MinceR, i know how to use it right, but i had to add the must on the end :) | Mar 13 14:45 |
| sebsebseb | what does :> mean whilst I am at it, I mean I know it's meant to be some sort of face, but what? | Mar 13 14:45 |
| MinceR | nisshh: you could have escaped the second / :> | Mar 13 14:45 |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: pointed smiley | Mar 13 14:45 |
| sebsebseb | which means what? | Mar 13 14:45 |
| nisshh | MinceR, let me refer you to what i said about being a smartass :) | Mar 13 14:46 |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: with a bit of malice or mischief :> | Mar 13 14:46 |
| sebsebseb | oh | Mar 13 14:46 |
| sebsebseb | well then uhmm | Mar 13 14:46 |
| sebsebseb | nisshh = :> at times :D | Mar 13 14:46 |
| nisshh | sebsebseb, heh, always :) | Mar 13 14:46 |
| schestowitz | nisshh: heh | Mar 13 14:47 |
| schestowitz | Anyway, sebsebseb, you now see what I mean by marketing... | Mar 13 14:48 |
| schestowitz | The context being size and cause | Mar 13 14:48 |
| schestowitz | Here's the remainder (last bit) | Mar 13 14:48 |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 13 14:48 |
| schestowitz | > These small businesses do not have the resources to buy billboards, or to | Mar 13 14:48 |
| schestowitz | > hire expensive ad agency/PR/marketing firms, they just need some simple | Mar 13 14:48 |
| schestowitz | > visual materials to help their potential customers to find them. That's it, | Mar 13 14:48 |
| schestowitz | > that's all. | Mar 13 14:48 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 13 14:48 |
| schestowitz | > I provide them with design and writing skills, and help them find the best, | Mar 13 14:48 |
| schestowitz | > inexpensive printing services. Small businesses deserve the ability to tell | Mar 13 14:48 |
| schestowitz | > people what they do and what value they offer, without having to pay huge | Mar 13 14:48 |
| schestowitz | > amounts of money. Don't you think? | Mar 13 14:48 |
| schestowitz | Yes, it's when they go rogue with sockpuppets and fake reviews that this becomes a major issue. | Mar 13 14:48 |
| schestowitz | > The truth is, it's a serious struggle for small businesses to get their | Mar 13 14:49 |
| schestowitz | > voices heard over all the noise made by the big corporate chains and | Mar 13 14:49 |
| schestowitz | > franchises. Not everyone has the time or know-how to do it for themselves. | Mar 13 14:49 |
| schestowitz | > Printed information can still be a powerful way to communicate with a local | Mar 13 14:49 |
| schestowitz | > community. Believe it or not, brochures, flyers, even cleverly designed | Mar 13 14:49 |
| schestowitz | > business cards can help tremendously. | Mar 13 14:49 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 13 14:49 |
| schestowitz | > Now, you're probably thinking that small business owners should just put up | Mar 13 14:49 |
| schestowitz | > a website. Because 'print' advertising is dead, after all...right? Also, | Mar 13 14:49 |
| schestowitz | > printing kills trees, etc, etc. And I'd agree with that. | Mar 13 14:49 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 13 14:49 |
| schestowitz | > But around here we have a large population of older people, especially | Mar 13 14:49 |
| schestowitz | > during the winter months (we call them snowbirds, because they come here in | Mar 13 14:49 |
| schestowitz | > the wintertime to get away from the snow back East). Most have cell phones | Mar 13 14:49 |
| schestowitz | > these days, but not necessarily smart phones, and they don't trust or use | Mar 13 14:49 |
| schestowitz | > the Internet like younger folks do. Old people like printed things because | Mar 13 14:49 |
| schestowitz | > they are easier to read than cell phones, and can be carried around with | Mar 13 14:49 |
| schestowitz | > them. Don't ask me why, 'cause I don't know. I just know that some older | Mar 13 14:49 |
| schestowitz | > people like to keep and carry stuff (especially coupons) around with them - | Mar 13 14:49 |
| schestowitz | > I know, it sounds funny, but it's true. | Mar 13 14:49 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 13 14:49 |
| schestowitz | > I've also seen the over-all print-advertising business dwindle massively | Mar 13 14:49 |
| schestowitz | > over the last 20 years. However, that very death-spiral trend has also been | Mar 13 14:49 |
| schestowitz | > a boon for me, since fewer people are now providing those services. I am | Mar 13 14:49 |
| schestowitz | > one of the few around here that can still do things the old-fashioned way | Mar 13 14:49 |
| schestowitz | > (ink and paint and pencil, etc), as well as do computer graphics and create | Mar 13 14:49 |
| schestowitz | > digital files - so there is always been plenty of work available, as long as | Mar 13 14:49 |
| *nisshh headdesks | Mar 13 14:49 | |
| schestowitz | > I keep prices affordable, which I do. | Mar 13 14:49 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 13 14:49 |
| schestowitz | > And it really doesn't matter to me if 'for-print' work doesn't last much | Mar 13 14:49 |
| schestowitz | > longer, 'cuz I'm ready to retire from all of it anyway. Only 8 months | Mar 13 14:49 |
| schestowitz | > left...yay! | Mar 13 14:49 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 13 14:49 |
| schestowitz | > As for having contracts with corporations in the past, it's true, that was | Mar 13 14:49 |
| sebsebseb | nisshh: yeah I know what you mean | Mar 13 14:49 |
| schestowitz | > how I got started many years ago. | Mar 13 14:49 |
| schestowitz | Yes, many people have. The problem is not advertising; it's certain types of PR and those who actually demand it, not those who do the job, either (although if one operates sock-puppets, that someone should be ashamed of oneself). PJ likes to use the term "yuppie defence" in this context. | Mar 13 14:49 |
| schestowitz | > My illustrations have been in a LOT of educational books over the years, and | Mar 13 14:49 |
| schestowitz | > I'm proud of the work I did, but the big educational publishers I once | Mar 13 14:49 |
| schestowitz | > worked for became impossible to deal with. Sometime around 1999 and 2000, | Mar 13 14:49 |
| MinceR | holy wall of text, batman! | Mar 13 14:49 |
| schestowitz | > it all changed (and not for the better). I continued to accept a few | Mar 13 14:49 |
| schestowitz | > illustration contracts after that, but also began cultivating independent | Mar 13 14:50 |
| schestowitz | > local business clients, so I could phase out the rotten corporate stuff. | Mar 13 14:50 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 13 14:50 |
| schestowitz | > With keeping my business geared towards small local, independent businesses, | Mar 13 14:50 |
| schestowitz | > over the last decade, many of my long-term regular clients have become | Mar 13 14:50 |
| schestowitz | > trusted, and treasured, personal friends. | Mar 13 14:50 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 13 14:50 |
| schestowitz | > And that defines (quite clearly, in my view) the VAST difference between a | Mar 13 14:50 |
| schestowitz | > Corporation, and a small, independent "mom & pop" business (like mine). | Mar 13 14:50 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 13 14:50 |
| schestowitz | > To an ever growing number of large Corporations "Trust" is merely a PR word | Mar 13 14:50 |
| schestowitz | > with no real meaning, they use it to abuse their Relationship with their | Mar 13 14:50 |
| schestowitz | > Public. So, in that respect, I don't do PR. | Mar 13 14:50 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 13 14:50 |
| schestowitz | > I'd like you to understand that...because if you continue to equate my | Mar 13 14:50 |
| schestowitz | > business with evil, lying corporations, I shall be very peeved at you. (I'm | Mar 13 14:50 |
| schestowitz | > giving you a friendly smile here, but I'm also serious) | Mar 13 14:50 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 13 14:50 |
| schestowitz | > I do have a business partner in a separate endeavor. But we formed a small | Mar 13 14:50 |
| schestowitz | > LLC company so we could keep our business relationship properly documented | Mar 13 14:50 |
| nisshh | sebsebseb, i think we should just swap schestowitz with an IRC bot that pastebin's :) | Mar 13 14:50 |
| schestowitz | > as separate from our personal business, and to be able to meet the | Mar 13 14:50 |
| schestowitz | > guidelines for hospitals (and their stupid purchasing departments) to buy | Mar 13 14:50 |
| schestowitz | > our childrens medical books (which are given to the children for free). So, | Mar 13 14:50 |
| schestowitz | > maybe you can find some 'evil corporate exploitation' issues there, I dunno. | Mar 13 14:50 |
| schestowitz | I remembers those good examples and they very much differ from what I think of when I say "PR". | Mar 13 14:50 |
| schestowitz | > You wrote: *"Money does not go with a person after his/her death; artful | Mar 13 14:50 |
| schestowitz | > work and reputation, however, last very long. So monetary excess has little | Mar 13 14:50 |
| schestowitz | > practical value in the long term. Among my great ancestors (4 generations | Mar 13 14:50 |
| schestowitz | > upwards) I know only a few, and not for achievements related to wealth."* | Mar 13 14:50 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 13 14:50 |
| schestowitz | > In this, you are absolutely correct. | Mar 13 14:50 |
| schestowitz | Thankfully; this is the past which I thought would be controversial. :-) | Mar 13 14:50 |
| schestowitz | > I live quite modestly in a very old house, and drive a 15 year-old car. I | Mar 13 14:50 |
| schestowitz | > don't accumulate much, having a tendency to give my stuff away to people who | Mar 13 14:50 |
| schestowitz | > might need it more than I do. | Mar 13 14:50 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 13 14:50 |
| schestowitz | > I also have people who depend on me, so I need to keep working for a while | Mar 13 14:50 |
| sebsebseb | nisshh: or get a bot in here that get's ops, that kicks him everytime he floods :D problem is I think only schestowitz has op here by default | Mar 13 14:50 |
| schestowitz | > longer...otherwise I'd have retired months ago. So money is important to me | Mar 13 14:50 |
| schestowitz | > only as far as it keeps loved-ones fed, housed and cared-for. I really | Mar 13 14:50 |
| schestowitz | > don't need much for myself. | Mar 13 14:50 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 13 14:51 |
| schestowitz | > If I have any money left over when I die, I'd be happy that it might help my | Mar 13 14:51 |
| schestowitz | > kids in some small way. Other than that, I mostly don't care about it. | Mar 13 14:51 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 13 14:51 |
| schestowitz | > Your term "*monetary excess*" really has no relationship to anything in my | Mar 13 14:51 |
| schestowitz | > life...in fact, if I ever found myself with a sudden pile of excess money, | Mar 13 14:51 |
| schestowitz | > I'd probably just keel over and die from pure shock. lol | Mar 13 14:51 |
| schestowitz | *LOL* Well, I was thinking of the hoarders who 'own' the US. IIRC, the top 400 "rich list" folks in the US own about as much as half the population combined. | Mar 13 14:51 |
| schestowitz | > Look, I know that TV and movies from the US tend to depict us all (to the | Mar 13 14:51 |
| schestowitz | > rest of the world) as culturally shallow, money-grubbing, materialistic, | Mar 13 14:51 |
| schestowitz | > empty-headed, war-mongering, wealth-worshiping, | Mar 13 14:51 |
| schestowitz | > sheep-like-slaves-to-corporate-consumerism - but that's less than accurate. | Mar 13 14:51 |
| schestowitz | Yes, I know. Huge disparity, among the worst in the world. WI can start something ;-) | Mar 13 14:51 |
| schestowitz | > There are certainly those elements here, but there are also LOTS of people | Mar 13 14:51 |
| schestowitz | > and groups that are a bit more grounded in their actions (beliefs, | Mar 13 14:51 |
| schestowitz | > behaviors, values, etc.), that don't have movies or TV shows made about | Mar 13 14:51 |
| schestowitz | > them, and rarely make the mainstream news. On the whole, we work hard, we | Mar 13 14:51 |
| nisshh | sebsebseb, hehe | Mar 13 14:51 |
| schestowitz | > love Freedom, we form our own networking/communities and help each other | Mar 13 14:51 |
| schestowitz | > out. | Mar 13 14:51 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 13 14:51 |
| schestowitz | > lol, we are many...we are anonymous...we are everywhere. (haha...I was | Mar 13 14:51 |
| schestowitz | > chuckling as I typed that) | Mar 13 14:51 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 13 14:51 |
| schestowitz | > Ok, I've been writing on this in bits and pieces, off and on, all day | Mar 13 14:51 |
| schestowitz | > long...I started at 7:00am, and it's nearly 5:00pm now. As a result, I've | Mar 13 14:51 |
| schestowitz | > written WAY too much again, I'd better stop for now and get this sent | Mar 13 14:51 |
| schestowitz | > (otherwise you might think I've permanently taken my headphones off.) | Mar 13 14:51 |
| schestowitz | *LOL* That's fantastic. It's good to have a friend like you !! | Mar 13 14:51 |
| schestowitz | > Please don't feel that I was angry, or upset with you for anything you wrote | Mar 13 14:51 |
| schestowitz | > to me. I was just dismayed that you seemed to have preconceived notions | Mar 13 14:51 |
| schestowitz | > about me that were inaccurate. That part did make me feel bad (but I'm | Mar 13 14:51 |
| schestowitz | > fine, so no worries). | Mar 13 14:51 |
| schestowitz | I feel bad only cause I was misunderstood. What I do, too, is a form of marketing, e.g. of Linux. | Mar 13 14:51 |
| schestowitz | > I hope your move went smoothly, and that everything's unpacked and you are | Mar 13 14:51 |
| schestowitz | > enjoying your new home! | Mar 13 14:51 |
| schestowitz | I'll send you photos soon, I hope. | Mar 13 14:51 |
| schestowitz | > As always, please take good care of yourself, | Mar 13 14:51 |
| schestowitz | > Best wishes and big smiles to you, | Mar 13 14:51 |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 13 14:51 |
| schestowitz | That's it, though | Mar 13 14:52 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb mentioned marketing his distro | Mar 13 14:52 |
| schestowitz | nisshh: sorry about that, won't happen again | Mar 13 14:52 |
| sebsebseb | nisshh: and he expects me to read all that, in the horrible IRC text format? This is worse than me doing loads of lines in channels :D | Mar 13 14:52 |
| schestowitz | I don't | Mar 13 14:52 |
| schestowitz | Buy I have route for opping self | Mar 13 14:52 |
| schestowitz | And [H]omer has that in #boycottnovell | Mar 13 14:52 |
| *nisshh refrains from stabbing schestowitz repeatedly | Mar 13 14:52 | |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: just got a message back from a friend who can help earn clients.. | Mar 13 14:52 |
| nisshh | schestowitz, heh, its ok :) | Mar 13 14:52 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: his distro? uh not quite, I mean I run PC Linux OS on here, and it seems it's going to take quite a bit to get rid of it, and the other computer will stay Mandriva, and well Mageia will be a virtual machine distro at first | Mar 13 14:52 |
| schestowitz | His sister is a friend of mine... | Mar 13 14:53 |
| nisshh | sebsebseb, hehe | Mar 13 14:53 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: anyway Mageia should be great in about two years time, and it's nice to be invovled with a distro from the beginning :) | Mar 13 14:53 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: do you? | Mar 13 14:53 |
| schestowitz | how's it working? | Mar 13 14:53 |
| schestowitz | I was just writing about it in relation to Mint | Mar 13 14:53 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: it's server admin stuff | Mar 13 14:54 |
| schestowitz | > sorry for the delay, Neil is now back from the Caribbean. He has asked | Mar 13 14:54 |
| schestowitz | > that I send you his phone number . This is xxxxxx | Mar 13 14:54 |
| schestowitz | > I hope that you are well. | Mar 13 14:54 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: well issues with choqok and kapman sadly, but other then that it's ok. oh and it would have been nice to have a old GNome Shell in repo, but no they are about having stable software, but i'll do the jhbuild from upstream Gnome when I bother | Mar 13 14:54 |
| *schestowitz still afraid of starting choqok | Mar 13 14:54 | |
| sebsebseb | why? | Mar 13 14:54 |
| sebsebseb | so for now it's back to looking at the website for old dents :( | Mar 13 14:55 |
| schestowitz | It'll get me addicted | Mar 13 14:55 |
| sebsebseb | and denting from Elmdentica and Pinio | Mar 13 14:55 |
| schestowitz | I'll respond, and then they'll respond, and... | Mar 13 14:55 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: yeah indeed | Mar 13 14:55 |
| schestowitz | Can't do 200 dents a day right now... | Mar 13 14:55 |
| schestowitz | If I click the green bird, I know the day will be unproductive | Mar 13 14:55 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: heh | Mar 13 14:55 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: well without you denting I can at least, follow other peoples old dents, easier | Mar 13 14:56 |
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| sebsebseb | all I need is a client that works, and will show 1000 dents in a timeline and :) ,but what | Mar 13 14:56 |
| sebsebseb | Choqok was one, but issues with it like I siad | Mar 13 14:56 |
| sebsebseb | Elmdentica isn't it, that's a very basic client in fact, apparnatly for small screens and blah de blah even, it's ok | Mar 13 14:57 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: I'm rethinking my use of microblogs | Mar 13 14:58 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: Nice. Money is money. | Mar 13 14:58 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: oh? | Mar 13 14:58 |
| schestowitz | I am not stopping, just rethinking how I use time with it | Mar 13 14:58 |
| sebsebseb | yeah you became a right addict | Mar 13 14:58 |
| schestowitz | For example, maybe less politics, less RTs; not sure yet... | Mar 13 14:58 |
| sebsebseb | truse most of your dents were polotics, and I was like uh to them, as in not interested in most of them | Mar 13 14:58 |
| schestowitz | But while I'm on mobile broadband I can't quite resume due to bandwidth | Mar 13 14:58 |
| schestowitz | But a lot of Linux news too.... it's now Android and Ubuntu | Mar 13 14:59 |
| schestowitz | I'm tired of promoting these silly brands{tm} | Mar 13 14:59 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: stop the Ubuntu dents :) | Mar 13 14:59 |
| schestowitz | They have enough budget to promote their lame Rights(R) and Trademarks(TM) | Mar 13 14:59 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: I might... | Mar 13 15:00 |
| sebsebseb | yeah exactly with Ubuntu well the direction is going hmm | Mar 13 15:00 |
| sebsebseb | and | Mar 13 15:00 |
| sebsebseb | there are plenty of fan boys and so on, that will do it anyway | Mar 13 15:00 |
| schestowitz | I can write more TR posts | Mar 13 15:00 |
| sebsebseb | as for Android, well it's Google so they are hyped up a lot | Mar 13 15:00 |
| schestowitz | At the expense of a few of the other activities | Mar 13 15:00 |
| sebsebseb | they don't need you promoting Android | Mar 13 15:00 |
| schestowitz | Android is massive now | Mar 13 15:00 |
| sebsebseb | exactly | Mar 13 15:00 |
| schestowitz | I'm not being no fanboi of that | Mar 13 15:00 |
| sebsebseb | Meego and WebOS could do with you denting about them at times though :) | Mar 13 15:01 |
| schestowitz | Unless it's cynogenmode | Mar 13 15:01 |
| sebsebseb | oh and Mageia of course :) | Mar 13 15:01 |
| sebsebseb | and to the group! | Mar 13 15:01 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2011/03/03/rogue-ipr-games/#comments | Mar 13 15:01 |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 13 15:01 |
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| schestowitz | Confirmation of Nokia's role comes from PJ's examination of <a href="http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/924613/000095012311024458/u10545e20vf.htm" rel="nofollow">Nokia's SEC filing</a>. She quotes the relevant parts in her news picks. | Mar 13 15:01 |
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| schestowitz | <blockquote>- Definitive agreements with Microsoft for the proposed partnership may not be entered into in a timely manner, or at all, or on terms beneficial to us. | Mar 13 15:01 |
| schestowitz | - New sources of revenue expected to be generated from the Microsoft partnership, such as increased monetization opportunities for us in services and intellectual property rights, may not materialize as expected, or at all. | Mar 13 15:01 |
| schestowitz | [PJ: So, they haven't signed on the dotted line yet, this is saying. And I gather they hope to sue people or threaten to do so to get royalties on patents. Blech. Can't Microsoft ever do anything *not* evil?] - Nokia's Form 20F, SEC</blockquote> | Mar 13 15:01 |
| schestowitz | I think she hit the nail on the head. We can conclude that all of the damage to Nokia is real but Microsoft's promises are vapor. Perhaps there is resistance in the company beyond the thousands of engineers who walked off the job in protest. | Mar 13 15:01 |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 13 15:01 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: yes, maybe | Mar 13 15:02 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: plus your not really that keen on the direction of Ubuntu yourself, I think | Mar 13 15:02 |
| sebsebseb | so why bother denting about it? | Mar 13 15:02 |
| schestowitz | But give me a few days to finish my current project before I get a BT/O2 wired connection and then I'll resume | Mar 13 15:02 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: and I meant completly stop denting about Ubuntu, and if you want Android as well | Mar 13 15:02 |
| schestowitz | Heh. Not even Canonical staff is entirely happy with the direction | Mar 13 15:02 |
| schestowitz | A few of them dissented | Mar 13 15:02 |
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| sebsebseb | nisshh is wondering about their direction now as well I think :D | Mar 13 15:03 |
| schestowitz | [H]omer did a post about it | Mar 13 15:03 |
| schestowitz | http://slated.org/copygate_exposes_ugly_ubuntu | Mar 13 15:03 |
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| schestowitz | It's well written | Mar 13 15:03 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: the Maryland LOCO leader, is quiting doing that | Mar 13 15:04 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: hmm that | Mar 13 15:04 |
| sebsebseb | uhmm | Mar 13 15:04 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: maybe I saw that before, but I remember this | Mar 13 15:04 |
| sebsebseb | basically my ISP is blocked from going on that, because they might spy on what people go on or whatever | Mar 13 15:05 |
| sebsebseb | and then goes to a page explaining about things | Mar 13 15:05 |
| schestowitz | Some canonical staff too, but no defection | Mar 13 15:05 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: in fact if your on BT you would probably get the page I got | Mar 13 15:05 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: when going on the link you just gave | Mar 13 15:05 |
| sebsebseb | basically says the ISP is blocked from going on it, and redirects to a page explaining about things | Mar 13 15:05 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: yep this is the page I get instead after the redirect, have a look I guess. http://www.inphormationdesk.org/ | Mar 13 15:06 |
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| sebsebseb | schestowitz: anyway it's strange for a website to redirect certain ISP's to another website | Mar 13 15:09 |
| schestowitz | LOL | Mar 13 15:16 |
| schestowitz | I guess I should try to get out of the BT agreement, which was verbal only | Mar 13 15:16 |
| schestowitz | But they could try to delay line transfer then, to retaliate | Mar 13 15:17 |
| schestowitz | I'll go to O2 tomorrow and see if they can take over the line before BT's package arrives | Mar 13 15:17 |
| schestowitz | BTW, Virgin and Sky mailed me brochures without me ever asking. How's Virgin if you don't need cable and other 'noise'? | Mar 13 15:18 |
| sebsebseb | nisshh: I am looking at old dents | Mar 13 15:30 |
| sebsebseb | nisshh: and well.. | Mar 13 15:30 |
| sebsebseb | nisshh: http://identi.ca/notice/66816595 | Mar 13 15:31 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @Lรยกszlรยณ Torma (toros)'s status on Saturday, 12-Mar-11 15:00:32 UTC - Identi.ca: Ryan Macnish' *lightbulb* moment: "I should just stick with Ubuntu" http://goo.gl/EwNVA !u | Mar 13 15:31 |
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| *schestowitz tries to stay alert after just 3 hours of sleep last night | Mar 13 15:31 | |
| schestowitz | nice being so close to city centre, finally... Had some friends come over last night, had bottles of wine, then headed to local bar and night club at Deansgate. Got back after 4... | Mar 13 15:33 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: ok so that's why you moved, to be nearer to the centre? | Mar 13 15:33 |
| schestowitz | Not the main consideration | Mar 13 15:34 |
| nisshh | sebsebseb, yeah, i did a post, which most people misinterpreted | Mar 13 15:42 |
| nisshh | i didnt actually know anyone had dented about it though | Mar 13 15:42 |
| schestowitz | I'm getting a little upset about Ubuntu | Mar 13 15:44 |
| schestowitz | I'll do a post about Mint to promote Clem art their expense | Mar 13 15:44 |
| nisshh | sebsebseb, please dont think that that post has anything to do with techrights, it was nothing to do with that | Mar 13 15:44 |
| schestowitz | Nobody needs Ubuntu, they can use Mint, it's a lot better too | Mar 13 15:44 |
| nisshh | sebsebseb, basically, that post was me simply realising that i didnt need to worry about Ubuntu's defaults or canonical's antics, i have no need of the defaults, i can run whatever i like | Mar 13 15:47 |
| nisshh | i was attempting to explain a moral dilemma | Mar 13 15:48 |
| nisshh | it didnt work out how i expected though | Mar 13 15:48 |
| nisshh | people took it the wrong way, as often happens with blog posts | Mar 13 15:48 |
| sebsebseb | nisshh: heh Techrights influenceing (I think the word is) your opinions a bit, did come to mind, but hey so what if it's true :D | Mar 13 15:57 |
| sebsebseb | also not just anyone dented that | Mar 13 15:57 |
| sebsebseb | that was toros the http://webupd8.org guy | Mar 13 15:58 |
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| sebsebseb | nisshh: and he goes by the name Andrew on there | Mar 13 15:58 |
| sebsebseb | nisshh: people misunderstood your blog post? | Mar 13 15:59 |
| sebsebseb | seemed fine to me | Mar 13 15:59 |
| sebsebseb | you were wondering if you should stay invovled with Ubuntu or, well get more invovled with other distro's | Mar 13 15:59 |
| sebsebseb | basicalley | Mar 13 15:59 |
| sebsebseb | nisshh: I don't know if you have seen any of it, but this past week | Mar 13 15:59 |
| sebsebseb | there has been like fighting beetween, Canonical, Gnome, and KDE | Mar 13 16:00 |
| sebsebseb | or Canonical and Gnome really | Mar 13 16:00 |
| sebsebseb | Canonical, Ubuntu, and Gnome | Mar 13 16:00 |
| oiaohm | There is a tradition 3 way fight. | Mar 13 16:00 |
| oiaohm | KDE Gnome Freedesktop. | Mar 13 16:00 |
| schestowitz | yeah | Mar 13 16:00 |
| schestowitz | and with MarkS | Mar 13 16:01 |
| schestowitz | Over his choice of GNOME for Ubuntu | Mar 13 16:01 |
| schestowitz | KDE never got over it | Mar 13 16:01 |
| oiaohm | Really I might do a blog post. | Mar 13 16:01 |
| schestowitz | His decision may have broken some spirits in KDE | Mar 13 16:01 |
| oiaohm | covering how freedesktop is designed to work. | Mar 13 16:01 |
| oiaohm | There are particular reasons why its not a standard body. | Mar 13 16:01 |
| sebsebseb | nisshh: yeah and it's to do with freedesktop standards as well | Mar 13 16:01 |
| oiaohm | And there are particular reason why it has a designed in steam roller. | Mar 13 16:02 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: also indeed to what you said earlier, Mint is a lot better | Mar 13 16:02 |
| oiaohm | sebsebseb: Do you understand how freedeskop is ment to work. | Mar 13 16:02 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: tried it yet? | Mar 13 16:02 |
| sebsebseb | oh sure right now they got their main version based on Ubuntu, but it's not like they need to be based on Ubuntu, the Debian based version hs been out for quite a while now | Mar 13 16:02 |
| oiaohm | Freedesktop is a place for draft standards. | Mar 13 16:02 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: uh I told you about this stuff already I belive | Mar 13 16:02 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: how when I picked distro's back in Jan | Mar 13 16:02 |
| sebsebseb | for my older brother's lap top | Mar 13 16:02 |
| oiaohm | The idea is if you don't like a draft standard you are ment to put up a counter standard. sebsebseb | Mar 13 16:03 |
| sebsebseb | how I went with Linux Mint 9 based on Ubuntu 10.04 in the end | Mar 13 16:03 |
| oiaohm | If you cannot put up a counter standard your reason for rejection must not be strong enough. | Mar 13 16:03 |
| oiaohm | Notice what Gnome has not been doing. | Mar 13 16:03 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: plus I had virtual machined Mint before that in the past, but back then found it kind of pointless, since I thought best to use the original product Ubuntu, but oh how times have changed | Mar 13 16:03 |
| oiaohm | Leaving it to KDE to submit standards and not Submitting any of there own. | Mar 13 16:03 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: wb | Mar 13 16:03 |
| oiaohm | Of course KDE is pissed. | Mar 13 16:04 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: nisshh Mint is great, takes everything I like from Ubuntu, and gives it nicer artwork and makes it more user friendly as wel the Mint menu and such. | Mar 13 16:04 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: nisshh and then of course Linux Mint Debian Edition as well, which I knew about before the offical annoucement, but still haven't virtual machined hmm | Mar 13 16:04 |
| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: thanks | Mar 13 16:04 |
| sebsebseb | I closed it down earlier, but there was a great | Mar 13 16:04 |
| sebsebseb | blog post on this subject | Mar 13 16:04 |
| sebsebseb | hmm | Mar 13 16:05 |
| schestowitz | I work at Manchester University clusters to get heavy work done pretty quickly. Next week I'll be mostly away, still. | Mar 13 16:05 |
| sebsebseb | and good comments, lets see if I can get on that again | Mar 13 16:05 |
| sebsebseb | should be able to do | Mar 13 16:05 |
| sebsebseb | I bookmark pretty much everything I go on for a start | Mar 13 16:05 |
| schestowitz | use "History" | Mar 13 16:05 |
| schestowitz | Can be searched, too | Mar 13 16:05 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: uh your job is at Manchester University? I thought you were just a ex student or something of it? | Mar 13 16:05 |
| schestowitz | Google too makes bookmarks closer to obsolete | Mar 13 16:05 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: no, it's a long story | Mar 13 16:06 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: true history can be searched to, and my bookmarks list is rather long | Mar 13 16:06 |
| sebsebseb | my current one | Mar 13 16:06 |
| schestowitz | But the plan is basically going to the gym every day around 7, then to the clusters at 9. | Mar 13 16:06 |
| schestowitz | Leaves too little for blogging | Mar 13 16:06 |
| schestowitz | Which is a hobby | Mar 13 16:07 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: remember Web directories? | Mar 13 16:07 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: stop promoting Ubuntu on identica then like I said earlier, and Android even whilst your at if you want, and yep less polices | Mar 13 16:07 |
| schestowitz | Like DMOZ and Yahoo? | Mar 13 16:07 |
| schestowitz | Who ever uses these anymore? | Mar 13 16:07 |
| sebsebseb | Yahoo sure, and uhmm Dmoz runs Yahoo? something ran Yahoo | Mar 13 16:07 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: probably | Mar 13 16:07 |
| oiaohm | Yahoo is basically gutted. | Mar 13 16:07 |
| schestowitz | gutted=Microsoft? | Mar 13 16:07 |
| sebsebseb | http://altavista.com still around for now :) | Mar 13 16:08 |
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| sebsebseb | however | Mar 13 16:08 |
| sebsebseb | that's Yahoo search with differnet branding now | Mar 13 16:08 |
| sebsebseb | I read I guess it was last year, that they would get rid of it | Mar 13 16:08 |
| sebsebseb | http://altavista.co.uk | Mar 13 16:08 |
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| oiaohm | schestowitz: basically giving up there search engine for the MS that does not work. | Mar 13 16:08 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: basically ruined yahoo. | Mar 13 16:08 |
| sebsebseb | the other search enginges hardly matter now really, since yep Google | Mar 13 16:08 |
| sebsebseb | most web users use Google, and well that's that | Mar 13 16:09 |
| sebsebseb | well maybe not in China? | Mar 13 16:09 |
| oiaohm | China internal search engine is about the only one now who standard a chance going head to head with google. | Mar 13 16:09 |
| MinceR | baidu? | Mar 13 16:10 |
| oiaohm | baidu yep that is the one. | Mar 13 16:10 |
| oiaohm | They are still developing new search methods that works. | Mar 13 16:10 |
| oiaohm | MS has basically been caught coping. | Mar 13 16:11 |
| MinceR | are they relevant outside red china? | Mar 13 16:11 |
| oiaohm | Currently no. | Mar 13 16:11 |
| oiaohm | but at least they are still improving there engine. MinceR | Mar 13 16:11 |
| MinceR | ic | Mar 13 16:11 |
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| qu1j0t3 | Maybe someone can add to my answer. schestowitz? http://www.quora.com/What-are-the-benefits-of-developing-in-a-Linux-environment | Mar 13 16:38 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: What are the benefits of developing in a Linux environment? - Quora .::. Size~: 69.45 KB | Mar 13 16:38 |
| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: I've no account thee | Mar 13 16:40 |
| schestowitz | *there. Wait till they sell to Google, then it'll turn out they just pulled a Huffing on their contributors | Mar 13 16:41 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: that's fixable... | Mar 13 16:41 |
| qu1j0t3 | i have 140 answers there | Mar 13 16:41 |
| schestowitz | Nice... | Mar 13 16:41 |
| schestowitz | Is it like Yahoo Answers? | Mar 13 16:42 |
| qu1j0t3 | i don't think the HP thing is about paying bloggers... | Mar 13 16:42 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: no | Mar 13 16:42 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: it's all user contrib | Mar 13 16:42 |
| qu1j0t3 | i don't care if they sell. i know the deal. | Mar 13 16:42 |
| qu1j0t3 | i contribute for the same reasons i'd contribute to Usenet | Mar 13 16:42 |
| schestowitz | Not comparable | Mar 13 16:42 |
| schestowitz | USENET cannot be sold | Mar 13 16:42 |
| schestowitz | USENET stays in my hard-drive too | Mar 13 16:43 |
| qu1j0t3 | Usenet runs on Darpa's network. | Mar 13 16:43 |
| schestowitz | Unless I set to autopuge old messages | Mar 13 16:43 |
| schestowitz | *auto-purge | Mar 13 16:43 |
| qu1j0t3 | on some level you're always using someone else's platform | Mar 13 16:43 |
| qu1j0t3 | usenet can be censored, blocked, republished, etc | Mar 13 16:43 |
| schestowitz | Can't sell | Mar 13 16:43 |
| schestowitz | Deja News is not it and Google Group is just cancer on USENET | Mar 13 16:43 |
| qu1j0t3 | but why does that matter | Mar 13 16:43 |
| schestowitz | *Groups | Mar 13 16:43 |
| qu1j0t3 | it's nothing to do with HP imho | Mar 13 16:43 |
| qu1j0t3 | the real problem with the HP isn't that bloggers should be paid | Mar 13 16:44 |
| schestowitz | republication is good | Mar 13 16:44 |
| schestowitz | It makes USENET more resistant to takedowns | Mar 13 16:44 |
| schestowitz | And watch what happened to Netscape/Propeller | Mar 13 16:44 |
| schestowitz | !google cloud propeller schestowitz | Mar 13 16:44 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | [1] - LibreOffice is Launched, Offering Independence from Oracle ... | http://techrights.org/2010/09/28/document-foundation-and-libreoffice/ | Mar 13 16:44 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | [2] - Novell Down 7% Today, Buyers Deemed Unsuitable, and Sale Value ... | http://techrights.org/2010/09/24/novell-sale-saga/ | Mar 13 16:44 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | [3] - With Software Patents โMicrosoft Claims to Own the Whole Field of ... | http://techrights.org/2010/10/31/anti-linux-lawsuits-and-ibm-peer2patent/ | Mar 13 16:44 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | [4] - Ubuntu Linux Netbooks Cause Microsoft Pain | The VAR Guy | http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/10/24/linux-netbooks-impact-microsoft-sales/ | Mar 13 16:44 |
| schestowitz | Wait, not right links... | Mar 13 16:44 |
| schestowitz | http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2010/10/05/cloud-computing-goes-boom/ | Mar 13 16:45 |
| schestowitz | Here... | Mar 13 16:45 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: schestowitz.com ยป Blog Archive ยป With โCloud Computingโ You Canโt Keep Your Data Under Your Control .::. Size~: 36.73 KB | Mar 13 16:45 |
| schestowitz | Quora is the same thing | Mar 13 16:45 |
| schestowitz | Digg too | Mar 13 16:45 |
| schestowitz | They can pull all the stuff any time | Mar 13 16:45 |
| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: I know some more people who can get clients through Joe... http://www.personaltrainermanchester.co.uk/ ... did you read my stuff from earlier? | Mar 13 16:47 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Personal Trainers Manchester UK - Joseph Leah specialist in personal training .::. Size~: 15.43 KB | Mar 13 16:47 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: I'm helping someone move from Ubuntu to Fedora or Mint | Mar 13 16:55 |
| schestowitz | She wants to try Fedora though | Mar 13 16:55 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: well look what I just done :D ,but not to any groups, I don't want loads of Ubuntu fan boys replying to it heh heh | Mar 13 16:57 |
| schestowitz | > Hi! Thanks for your thoughtful replies, I enjoyed and appreciated them immensely! | Mar 13 16:57 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 13 16:57 |
| schestowitz | > Congratulations on getting moved and settled. It can be such a chore to move to a new place, but then it's really nice when all the packing and unpacking is finished. | Mar 13 16:57 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 13 16:57 |
| schestowitz | > Now, if BT will just get your Internet connected, life could get back to normal. :) | Mar 13 16:57 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 13 16:57 |
| schestowitz | > This afternoon I'm going to try, once again, to install Fedora. I've not had much luck with it in the past, but I thought I'd try again. I've heard that KDE is much better now, so I'd like to see if I can use it. I'm a bit like Goblin when it comes to KDE, it's always looked | Mar 13 16:57 |
| schestowitz | > pretty, but also felt a little frustrating to use. Maybe this time will be better. | Mar 13 16:57 |
| schestowitz | If you've not burned it yet, try Mint 10 (GNOME or KDE). I used it all day yesterday and it was fantastic. I'll blog about it in http://Schestowitz.com very shortly. | Mar 13 16:57 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: schestowitz.com .::. Size~: 15.98 KB | Mar 13 16:57 |
| schestowitz | > It's fun to try things out though, and I have lots of spare drives to test new software on, so we'll see how it goes. | Mar 13 16:57 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 13 16:57 |
| schestowitz | > Anyway, I'm glad you're all finished with the move, looking forward to seeing pics of your new place! | Mar 13 16:57 |
| schestowitz | Here is a video from 1 hour ago (att.) | Mar 13 16:57 |
| schestowitz | I think it's too later now for Mint though... | Mar 13 16:57 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: the problem is that the corporation is modelled directly on cancer. | Mar 13 16:57 |
| schestowitz | I mean, if she had burned Fedora | Mar 13 16:57 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: however that could happen anyway, since the original dent was sent to the !ubuntu group the one I replied to. http://identi.ca/conversation/66091074 | Mar 13 16:58 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Conversation - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 13.56 KB | Mar 13 16:58 |
| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: what do you mean? | Mar 13 16:58 |
| schestowitz | The marketing part? | Mar 13 16:58 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: anyway I like the woman I replied to :), she will probably end up on better distro's a bit later on anyway :) | Mar 13 16:58 |
| schestowitz | It's hard to face marketing people and raise these issues | Mar 13 16:58 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: yeah :-) | Mar 13 16:59 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: > Your concept that any business, no matter how small, is still a potentially | Mar 13 16:59 |
| qu1j0t3 | > exploitative corporate entity, is rather astounding. From personal | Mar 13 16:59 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: so many Ubuntu fan boys on identica though hmm | Mar 13 16:59 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: also you know how Ubuntu is the biggest group on there, uh right yeah, but it probably has a lot of spam accounts in it as well | Mar 13 16:59 |
| qu1j0t3 | the problem is more the growth model, e.g. going public, etc, imho schestowitz | Mar 13 16:59 |
| sebsebseb | in fact maybe it's, because of the spam/fake accounts that is the most popular | Mar 13 16:59 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: it emulates cancer | Mar 13 17:00 |
| schestowitz | IPO | Mar 13 17:00 |
| schestowitz | Morals aside, money first | Mar 13 17:00 |
| schestowitz | Else you get fired | Mar 13 17:00 |
| qu1j0t3 | yes. | Mar 13 17:00 |
| schestowitz | The cancer assimilats nearby cells or destroys them | Mar 13 17:00 |
| qu1j0t3 | the militaristic hierarchy also helps this process | Mar 13 17:01 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: aiui, cancer is about unrestrained and unsustainable (fatal) growth | Mar 13 17:01 |
| qu1j0t3 | which is exactly what a corporation does | Mar 13 17:01 |
| schestowitz | Like lots of issues in IT as well... systems that encourage immorality and remove moral elements to increase power | Mar 13 17:01 |
| schestowitz | Tesco sells everything now | Mar 13 17:01 |
| schestowitz | Wal-mart selling insurance and houses yet? | Mar 13 17:02 |
| qu1j0t3 | cui bono? :) | Mar 13 17:02 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: in all likelihood yes. | Mar 13 17:02 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft sells patent licences now | Mar 13 17:02 |
| schestowitz | It promotes the lawyers with the baseball bat | Mar 13 17:02 |
| schestowitz | Moving where there's BizNiz | Mar 13 17:02 |
| schestowitz | "Join the real world"|"Are you AGAINST MONEY?!?!?"|"the world will never change" :-) | Mar 13 17:04 |
| qu1j0t3 | http://twitter.com/#!/natlsecuritycnn/status/46980665736048641 | Mar 13 17:10 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @natlsecuritycnn: BREAKING - @edhenrycnn reporting that PJ Crowley out as State Dept spokesman after criticizing treatment of Bradley Manning. #StateDept | Mar 13 17:10 |
| qu1j0t3 | http://twitter.com/#!/marcambinder/status/46980475847319553 | Mar 13 17:11 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @marcambinder: .@nationaljournal confirms that @pjcrowley has resigned as State spox. @edhenrycnn was first to report. DoD/WH furious at his Manning cmnts | Mar 13 17:11 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: Anyway nice your moving people away from Ubuntu now to better distro's? | Mar 13 17:11 |
| qu1j0t3 | http://twitter.com/#!/SteveHynd/status/46980279138648064 | Mar 13 17:12 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @SteveHynd: RT @ggreenwald: Crowley resigned "under pressure from WH" - http://is.gd/yuyqbN - detainee abuse is allowed - speaking out against it isn't. | Mar 13 17:12 |
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| sebsebseb | schestowitz: anyway I should have eaten earlier, but I got to sucked into identica and IRC | Mar 13 17:14 |
| sebsebseb | so yeah food time very soon now for me :) | Mar 13 17:14 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: nisshh MinceR Altough here's the link I was going to give earlier: http://www.alexhudson.com/2011/03/12/fedora-15-gnome-leadership/ | Mar 13 17:16 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Fedora 15 & Gnome leadership | Alex's Blog .::. Size~: 21.07 KB | Mar 13 17:16 |
| qu1j0t3 | http://twitter.com/#!/newsycombinator/status/46978844229509120 | Mar 13 17:16 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @newsycombinator: Police Return Seized Hardware to Victorious BitTorrent Admin, Trashed http://j.mp/hJcuqP | Mar 13 17:16 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @: | Mar 13 17:16 |
| qu1j0t3 | http://www.wildbunny.co.uk/blog/?p=132 | Mar 13 17:18 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: The reality of being a new developer on Facebook | Wildbunny blog .::. Size~: 28.34 KB | Mar 13 17:18 |
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| schestowitz | Blech | Mar 13 17:46 |
| schestowitz | FB | Mar 13 17:46 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: yes Facebook :( pretty much, however I did get onto a kind of interesting link to do with it earlier, from Identica | Mar 13 17:47 |
| schestowitz | I have a wiki page about facebook | Mar 13 17:48 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: i'll find the link soon or whatever, food time | Mar 13 17:50 |
| schestowitz | OK, thanks | Mar 13 17:52 |
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| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: I guess u saw this. http://yro.slashdot.org/story/11/03/11/1525246/Eric-Schmidt-a-Contender-For-US-Commerce-Secretary | Mar 13 18:23 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Eric Schmidt a Contender For US Commerce Secretary - Slashdot .::. Size~: 94.02 KB | Mar 13 18:23 |
| schestowitz | haven't yet, no... | Mar 13 18:27 |
| schestowitz | Intel's CEO also got some major seat... | Mar 13 18:27 |
| schestowitz | Disgusting | Mar 13 18:27 |
| qu1j0t3 | right | Mar 13 18:27 |
| qu1j0t3 | revolving door turning so fast it's now a blur... who said that ... | Mar 13 18:27 |
| schestowitz | Now they put in the throne the very same people whom they tried to hide so that the public can't tell who really runs the country | Mar 13 18:27 |
| qu1j0t3 | "you're not with us you're against us" | Mar 13 18:28 |
| qu1j0t3 | says it all | Mar 13 18:28 |
| schestowitz | So tell us, Mr. Gates, what should we use on PCs at schools? | Mar 13 18:28 |
| qu1j0t3 | unelected Ed. Minister | Mar 13 18:28 |
| schestowitz | Yes | Mar 13 18:28 |
| schestowitz | He's in his 50s | Mar 13 18:28 |
| schestowitz | Can buy new organs | Mar 13 18:28 |
| qu1j0t3 | Democracy(TM) | Mar 13 18:28 |
| schestowitz | So give him another 50 | Mar 13 18:28 |
| schestowitz | Like David Rockychair | Mar 13 18:28 |
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| schestowitz | LOL | Mar 14 20:42 |
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| schestowitz | I have problems sleeping as little as I used to... sleep not kicking in just yet... and then I sleep over 8 hours/night for like a week now | Mar 14 23:17 |
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| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/jdub/status/47335940770889728 http://twitter.com/jstedfast/statuses/47340248488869888 | Mar 14 23:28 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @jdub: If there is an Evil Overlord of #GNOME 3.0, it is undoubtedly that shadowy French figure, Vincent Untz. | Mar 14 23:28 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @jstedfast: @jdub oh that guy is evil. I heard he works for that evil empire corp. that secretly pulls all the strings that only techrights can see | Mar 14 23:28 |
| qu1j0t3 | ugh | Mar 14 23:32 |
| schestowitz | Novell employee BTW | Mar 14 23:34 |
| schestowitz | Mono/Ximian | Mar 14 23:34 |
| qu1j0t3 | well, there are none so blind as those who will not see | Mar 14 23:46 |
| oiaohm | qu1j0t3: what about those who don't want to see. | Mar 15 00:03 |
| qu1j0t3 | referring to jdub et al | Mar 15 00:04 |
| qu1j0t3 | jstedfast, specifically | Mar 15 00:05 |
| qu1j0t3 | the Business of Denial | Mar 15 00:05 |
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| schestowitz | The role of Novell sometime seems to pollute Microsoft competitors with patent bair such as Silver Lie and .NET | Mar 15 06:28 |
| schestowitz | > Dear Doctor Roy, | Mar 15 06:29 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 15 06:29 |
| schestowitz | > Mr. Yves de Montcheuil, VP of Marketing of Talend, have given me | Mar 15 06:29 |
| schestowitz | > permission to translate his article & post it on our Spanish portal. | Mar 15 06:29 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 15 06:29 |
| schestowitz | > Here's is the link to his article: | Mar 15 06:29 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 15 06:29 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.talend.com/blog/2011/02/25/no-matter-what-you-call-it-a-rat-is-still-a-rat/ | Mar 15 06:29 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 15 06:29 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: No matter what you call it, a rat is still a ratโฆ at Talend blog .::. Size~: 62.31 KB | Mar 15 06:29 |
| schestowitz | > As soon as I'm done with it. I'll send it to you! | Mar 15 06:29 |
| schestowitz | > I'm happy we're back. BTW the house picture looks very nice. Are you a | Mar 15 06:31 |
| schestowitz | > home decorator? | Mar 15 06:31 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 15 06:31 |
| schestowitz | > Anyway, here it goes: | Mar 15 06:31 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 15 06:31 |
| schestowitz | > mobile-platforms-and-platform-security_ES | Mar 15 06:31 |
| schestowitz | Heh. No, someone else did it. | Mar 15 06:32 |
| schestowitz | Please try to double-check to see I post the translations correctly. | Mar 15 06:32 |
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| qu1j0t3 | http://www.zdnet.co.uk/blogs/the-open-source-revolution-10014902/out-with-windows-2000-in-with-fedora-14-10021893/ | Mar 15 19:13 |
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| schestowitz | OT (Ubuntu and stuff): | Mar 15 20:04 |
| schestowitz | > Loved the video...I like all the big windows and light...great wallpaper in the kitchen too! Thanks for sending it. It was almost like a real | Mar 15 20:04 |
| schestowitz | > visit! Maybe I should get a video camera and send you some footage of my studio/office and the crazy little house I live in. | Mar 15 20:05 |
| schestowitz | If you visit the UK one day, definitely let me know. I love guests. | Mar 15 20:05 |
| schestowitz | > It's funny that you suggested downloading Mint 10 with KDE. I already had it ready in case the Fedora install didn't work out. But I ended up trying both on different drives. I was surprised at Fedora, it was MUCH | Mar 15 20:05 |
| schestowitz | > nicer than the last time I tried it (maybe two years ago), and Mint seems nice too, but I need to work with both of them a bit more and learn my way around. | Mar 15 20:05 |
| schestowitz | I have used both, but with Mint I only used the GNOME side of version 10. Actually, I used Fedora 14 in two different places of work; I still work with it daily (today most of the day) and sometimes it makes me a little upset because it has bugs. Well, that's fair enough though cause my programs still have bugs, too. I use Fedora for development (details in my personal blog). | Mar 15 20:05 |
| schestowitz | > I truly have enjoyed using Ubuntu with Gnome. It's always worked with the hardware I've had at hand, and for most of the installs I've done for other people's computers it's been so easy. | Mar 15 20:05 |
| schestowitz | Yes, I have no resentment for GNOME. There's that subculture in GNOME which promotes Microsoft though. | Mar 15 20:05 |
| schestowitz | > It's also been disheartening to see so many people being so hateful | Mar 15 20:05 |
| schestowitz | > towards Ubuntu. It's a shame. Sadly, whenever I see some sort of dust-up over Ubuntu it always seems to originate with Gnome people who are pro-mono/Banshee. | Mar 15 20:05 |
| schestowitz | I've been a promoter of Ubuntu since the start. You can still search the Web for public posts of mine from the dawn of Ubuntu; I was an early adopter and brought some people to it. | Mar 15 20:05 |
| schestowitz | > I've decided to stick with Ubuntu, for now. Mostly because it would be a shame for folks to just run away at the first sign of problems. I | Mar 15 20:05 |
| schestowitz | > think chasing everyone away from Canonical and Ubuntu is actually the goal of the Mono-Gnomer-Banshee-ites (that's what I call them). The more they can disrupt, divide and degrade the Ubuntu community, the happier they are. | Mar 15 20:05 |
| schestowitz | Canonical is taking the heat and rethinking its attitude. That's what's important. We both believe in second chances. :-) | Mar 15 20:05 |
| schestowitz | > I'm just stubborn enough to stand my ground. It's a bit like the neighborhood I live in. I've lived in this neighborhood since 1973 | Mar 15 20:05 |
| schestowitz | > (though I did live in other places for a short time during the early 90s). It has changed a lot over the decades, even gone through some very bad times, as far as crime and blight. But it has always managed to survive through the troubles. | Mar 15 20:05 |
| schestowitz | Yes, I could leave Manchester a month ago. Instead, I chose to move to a different area in it. I just don't want to be a geon00b in the city I live in (where's the bank, who's in the gym, what's the history/good sites/sights and so on)... | Mar 15 20:05 |
| schestowitz | > It's not a rich neighborhood, by any means, but it's a stable one, with huge diversity in population. We (the majority of neighbors) didn't just move away and abandon it to the bad elements, but actually worked together to get things cleaned up, and helped make it safer for the new young families that are moving in. | Mar 15 20:05 |
| schestowitz | The place where I live is full of people around my age. In fact, an hour ago there was a nice girl who must be about 30 in the lift with me. She had been jogging past me a couple of minutes earlier and made some eye contact. It's likely I'll see her in the future. This actually reminds me, on Saturday I had friends over for drinks and then we went to pubs, then to a club. There was this girl there whom I was getting along. It | Mar 15 20:05 |
| schestowitz | turns out that my drunk friend (under circumstances unknown to me) had told this girl to **** o**. I did not know that and when she asked if he was my friend I innocently said "yes". Well... | Mar 15 20:05 |
| schestowitz | > That's how I feel about Canonical and Ubuntu. It doesn't seem right to just abandon them when they make mistakes, or to just let the > troublemakers take over and spoil it all. | Mar 15 20:05 |
| schestowitz | Yes, Novell loves what Banshee (Mono, Novell copyrights and developers too) has been doing to Ubuntu. | Mar 15 20:05 |
| schestowitz | > On the other hand, it never hurts to keep trying other distros, just in case. I've been testing the Natty/Unity since early Alpha, and it's been | Mar 15 20:05 |
| schestowitz | > very interesting. But it's also going to be a huge change. Change is inevitable, and people would complain if Ubuntu stagnated and never progressed (though it seems there are always complainers, no matter what). But I'm not sure that Natty will be stable by next month's release. We'll see. | Mar 15 20:05 |
| schestowitz | Unity is a gamble, but probably not more so than that movement of window buttons to the 'wrong' side... | Mar 15 20:05 |
| schestowitz | > Anyway, it seems like a good time to revisit other distros, and try to learn to like KDE. Do you think the Nokia/Microsoft deal will cause permanent harm to QT? Doesn't KDE use QT? (I'm not quite sure how necessary one is to the other). | Mar 15 20:05 |
| schestowitz | It won't harm KDE in any real way. Competition from Android et al. might. | Mar 15 20:05 |
| schestowitz | > Is there ANYTHING in this world that Microsoft doesn't try to pollute and ruin? (haha, I already know the answer to that one) | Mar 15 20:05 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft was initially called Micro-soft (after Bill's genitals) but prior to that it was called garbageware (because Gates had admitted starting this business by "fishing" for code in the garbage cans). Some things never change even 30+ years later. On a more serious notes, Google was called some other stuff or had names like (Larry)PageRank and BackRub (see their logos too, Larry is now CEO by the way). Google is a much | Mar 15 20:05 |
| schestowitz | nicer story about a company growing out of Freedom software and thriving so amazingly quickly, still spreading some software freedom where possible. | Mar 15 20:05 |
| schestowitz | > Glad to see a new episode of Techbytes!! You are so serious, and Goblin is so earnest, and Gordon is such a hoot (meaning very funny)...you three make a good team. I really enjoy the show. | Mar 15 20:05 |
| schestowitz | Yes, I'm too serious on the show, unlike in everyday life. | Mar 15 20:05 |
| schestowitz | > Ok, guess I'd better put the mouse down and step away from the computer for a while. Need to do some yard work...tree trimmin' and weed killin' FTW! \0/ | Mar 15 20:05 |
| qu1j0t3 | geon00b? | Mar 15 20:06 |
| qu1j0t3 | wouldn't last long | Mar 15 20:06 |
| schestowitz | Like... | Mar 15 20:06 |
| qu1j0t3 | i mean the n00bness. | Mar 15 20:06 |
| schestowitz | When you don't know your surroundings well | Mar 15 20:06 |
| qu1j0t3 | right, but that wouldn't take very long to fix, surely | Mar 15 20:07 |
| schestowitz | In the past week I spent like 5 hours walking around just to study the area | Mar 15 20:07 |
| schestowitz | It takes decades to know your area well... shops, lakes, forests, rough areas (to avoid), booze.. | Mar 15 20:07 |
| qu1j0t3 | i suppose. | Mar 15 20:08 |
| schestowitz | I also spent a long time today in Google Maps, yesterday in OpenStreetMap | Mar 15 20:08 |
| qu1j0t3 | but in a large city you should ideally be exploring anyway | Mar 15 20:08 |
| schestowitz | I know the south of Manchester well | Mar 15 20:08 |
| qu1j0t3 | there's piles of neighbourhoods here we haven't | Mar 15 20:08 |
| schestowitz | Cause I lived there for many years | Mar 15 20:08 |
| schestowitz | The north is somewhere I rarely ever went to (without bus/train) | Mar 15 20:08 |
| qu1j0t3 | right, here we rarely go east | Mar 15 20:08 |
| qu1j0t3 | (we live west of downtown) | Mar 15 20:09 |
| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: I'm still looking for gigs we can do | Mar 15 20:09 |
| qu1j0t3 | it looks like i'll get a full time offer here | Mar 15 20:09 |
| schestowitz | When my line is up (With Ethernet) a friend expects me to call him | Mar 15 20:09 |
| schestowitz | Usually I just walk in and get the jobs without any interview (my past 3 jobs are like that) and tomorrow I meet another one at 5... but I think you and the wife are happy in Toronto already | Mar 15 20:10 |
| schestowitz | You think Manc is like London... with classes and racism | Mar 15 20:10 |
| schestowitz | Psycho at it again... http://us.generation-nt.com/answer/techrights-ok-help-202522932.html | Mar 15 20:16 |
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| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: yes and no. | Mar 15 20:16 |
| schestowitz | It's a melting pot here, too | Mar 15 20:16 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: she's applied to a school here. but if she isn't accepted, we have less tie | Mar 15 20:16 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: i mean 'happy in TO already' | Mar 15 20:16 |
| schestowitz | Becomes more like the US, despite EDL, BNP, and other racist groups | Mar 15 20:16 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: it's employment dependent; i see more interesting jobs in Europe | Mar 15 20:17 |
| schestowitz | You're both from the south | Mar 15 20:17 |
| schestowitz | Brazil and Aussie | Mar 15 20:17 |
| schestowitz | So moving to another continent might not be like leaving the parents and friends | Mar 15 20:17 |
| qu1j0t3 | she has a big problem with that aspect. | Mar 15 20:18 |
| qu1j0t3 | not so easy to cure since her family+friends are all in northeast brazil, which means i can't easily work there, and the climate isn't great. | Mar 15 20:19 |
| schestowitz | Can VoIP+video help? | Mar 15 20:20 |
| qu1j0t3 | she uses skype all the time | Mar 15 20:21 |
| qu1j0t3 | This listing of lobbyists lobbying Homeland Security, listed by the Sunlight Foundation, lists the areas where Koch Industries is active in that context: | Mar 15 20:28 |
| qu1j0t3 | 9E5ED4F8-FE89-44BA-9052-F19204B5673B,REGISTRATION,Siff & Associates PLLC,Koch Industries Public Sector,2010-11-03 15:01:31, Financial Institutions/Investments/Securities|Energy/Nuclear|Law Enforcement/Crime/Criminal Justice|Homeland Security|Chemicals/Chemical Industry, "Issues related to federal energy and environmental policy; homeland security and critical infrastructure protection; | Mar 15 20:28 |
| qu1j0t3 | criminal justice, legal, and judicial processes reform." | Mar 15 20:28 |
| qu1j0t3 | via http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20110309160558506 | Mar 15 20:28 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Groklaw - SCO, unXis, Microsoft, Canopy, Carlyle, Elliott Associates, and Koch Industries .::. Size~: 171.2 KB | Mar 15 20:28 |
| schestowitz | Or Meh | Mar 15 20:33 |
| schestowitz | Depressing stuff... | Mar 15 20:33 |
| schestowitz | But the connections she shows are not always so strong | Mar 15 20:34 |
| qu1j0t3 | http://twitter.com/#!/Sierra_Club/status/47759051790106624 | Mar 15 20:48 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @Sierra_Club: RT @drgrist: Republicans are arguing that to have a healthy economy, you have to accept being poisoned. It's just depraved. | Mar 15 20:48 |
| qu1j0t3 | http://twitter.com/#!/DCPlod/status/47757888856395776 | Mar 15 20:50 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @DCPlod: Dear David Cameron: I seriously suggest you check the average number of applications per job on a jobsite before you slam the unemployed. | Mar 15 20:50 |
| schestowitz | Heh | Mar 15 21:24 |
| schestowitz | David already has a job | Mar 15 21:24 |
| schestowitz | TBH, many jobs are never advertised | Mar 15 21:24 |
| schestowitz | You need to network with people | Mar 15 21:24 |
| qu1j0t3 | http://twitter.com/#!/LiberalHitGirl/status/47785585116577792 | Mar 15 22:26 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @LiberalHitGirl: Taxpayers pay around $4,400 each per year on military, and on NPR? That figure is 16c. #tcot #p2 | Mar 15 22:26 |
| qu1j0t3 | http://twitter.com/#!/Johngcole/status/47785419793899520 | Mar 15 22:27 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @Johngcole: Way to sell out, Arianna. Just what we needed. http://bit.ly/ftLHCD #bighuffington | Mar 15 22:27 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | -> Title: Balloon Juice ยป Even the liberal Huffington Post .::. Size~: 78.06 KB | Mar 15 22:27 |
| schestowitz | Blech | Mar 15 22:46 |
| schestowitz | You made me loathe Huffington | Mar 15 22:46 |
| qu1j0t3 | I did? | Mar 15 22:47 |
| schestowitz | I did not concentrate on the people behind the site | Mar 15 22:49 |
| schestowitz | Rather on the issues covered (or syndicated) | Mar 15 22:49 |
| qu1j0t3 | ya | Mar 15 22:50 |
| qu1j0t3 | i used to read it as well. not sure when the penny dropped. | Mar 15 22:50 |
| qu1j0t3 | maybe it was Gates' column | Mar 15 22:50 |
| schestowitz | Heh. You can read that two ways | Mar 15 22:51 |
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| qu1j0t3 | http://yro.slashdot.org/story/11/03/15/2057231/Poole-To-Zuckerberg-Yoursquore-Doing-It-Wrong | Mar 16 01:09 |
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| schestowitz | Who's Poole? | Mar 16 01:09 |
| schestowitz | Will from Microsoft? | Mar 16 01:09 |
| qu1j0t3 | 4chan | Mar 16 01:10 |
| qu1j0t3 | 'moot' | Mar 16 01:10 |
| sebsebseb | http://identi.ca/conversation/66259732 | Mar 16 01:10 |
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| sebsebseb | yeah this is so @mageia and a load of other people uh :( | Mar 16 01:11 |
| sebsebseb | oh and @mageia is used by more than one person as far as i know | Mar 16 01:11 |
| sebsebseb | indeed at people using identica as a dumping ground for Twitter | Mar 16 01:12 |
| sebsebseb | messages | Mar 16 01:12 |
| qu1j0t3 | https://twitter.com/#!/Pat120/status/47838346273234944 | Mar 16 02:12 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @Pat120: Just unfollowed @HuffingtonPost - Inviting Breitbart to write for them was the last straw. | Mar 16 02:12 |
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| schestowitz | > /Yes, Novell loves what Banshee (Mono, Novell copyrights and developers | Mar 16 08:14 |
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| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/conversation/66306409#notice-67118030 | Mar 16 08:16 |
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| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/67118030e-67118030 | Mar 16 08:16 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Not a dent? | Mar 16 08:16 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/67118030 | Mar 16 08:16 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @Wayne Borean (themadhatter)'s status on Wednesday, 16-Mar-11 00:58:46 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz How to promote Freedom and People's rights? How about #Anonymous ? | Mar 16 08:16 |
| schestowitz | > Hmmm, she shouldn't have judged you by someone else's behavior. That | Mar 16 08:17 |
| schestowitz | > just seems unfair. The jogger-girl sounds like she might be a far more | Mar 16 08:17 |
| schestowitz | > interesting friend. It sounds like a good neighborhood for meeting new | Mar 16 08:17 |
| schestowitz | > people, I'm glad the move has been a good one for you. | Mar 16 08:17 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 16 08:17 |
| schestowitz | > /Yes, Novell loves what Banshee (Mono, Novell copyrights and developers | Mar 16 08:17 |
| schestowitz | > too) has been doing to Ubuntu./ | Mar 16 08:17 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 16 08:17 |
| schestowitz | > I tried Banshee a few times, setting Ubuntu up for friends. I always to | Mar 16 08:17 |
| schestowitz | > let them choose the software they want, and Banshee gets lots of good | Mar 16 08:17 |
| schestowitz | > reviews. But, so far, no one has wanted to keep it. It seems terribly | Mar 16 08:17 |
| schestowitz | > buggy. | Mar 16 08:17 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 16 08:18 |
| schestowitz | > /Unity is a gamble, but probably not more so than that movement of | Mar 16 08:18 |
| schestowitz | > window buttons to the 'wrong' side... | Mar 16 08:18 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 16 08:18 |
| schestowitz | > /Actually, I've been a little surprised by Unity, it's not been as bad | Mar 16 08:18 |
| schestowitz | > as I expected. I really have enjoyed watching it take shape/. /But I'm | Mar 16 08:18 |
| schestowitz | > not sure I'd want to use it full-time. Maybe by the next release it | Mar 16 08:18 |
| schestowitz | > will be more polished. / | Mar 16 08:18 |
| schestowitz | > / | Mar 16 08:18 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 16 08:18 |
| schestowitz | > /It won't harm KDE in any real way. Competition from Android et al. might./ | Mar 16 08:18 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 16 08:18 |
| schestowitz | > I'm glad to know that KDE will be fine if something happened to QT. | Mar 16 08:18 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 16 08:18 |
| schestowitz | > /Microsoft was initially called Micro-soft (after Bill's genitals)... / | Mar 16 08:18 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 16 08:18 |
| schestowitz | > Well that might explain a lot...bullies are generally very insecure | Mar 16 08:18 |
| schestowitz | > people. lol | Mar 16 08:18 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 16 08:18 |
| schestowitz | > /...but prior to that it was called garbageware (because Gates had | Mar 16 08:18 |
| schestowitz | > admitted starting this business by "fishing" for code in the garbage | Mar 16 08:18 |
| schestowitz | > cans). Some things never change even 30+ years later. On a more serious | Mar 16 08:18 |
| schestowitz | > notes, Google was called some other stuff or had names like (Larry) | Mar 16 08:18 |
| schestowitz | > PageRank and BackRub (see their logos too, Larry is now CEO by the way). | Mar 16 08:18 |
| schestowitz | > Google is a much nicer story about a company growing out of Freedom | Mar 16 08:18 |
| schestowitz | > software and thriving so amazingly quickly, still spreading some | Mar 16 08:18 |
| schestowitz | > software freedom where possible./ | Mar 16 08:18 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 16 08:18 |
| schestowitz | > Yes, I find the increasingly ugly "Slog" against Google to be | Mar 16 08:18 |
| schestowitz | > worrisome. They seem to be able to handle it all pretty well, but they | Mar 16 08:18 |
| schestowitz | > seemed to have taken the kid gloves off recently, especially with the | Mar 16 08:19 |
| schestowitz | > Bing! thing. I thought that was very funny. | Mar 16 08:19 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 16 08:19 |
| schestowitz | > /Yes, I'm too serious on the show, unlike in everyday life./ | Mar 16 08:19 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 16 08:19 |
| schestowitz | > No, you're not too serious (see above) :) | Mar 16 08:19 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 16 08:19 |
| schestowitz | > /"Thanks for the chat./" | Mar 16 08:19 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 16 08:19 |
| schestowitz | > I've probably become horribly annoying, but thank you for writing back. | Mar 16 08:19 |
| schestowitz | > I know it takes time out of your day to do so, but it's very | Mar 16 08:19 |
| schestowitz | > appreciated. I've enjoyed it and am very proud to know you. You're a | Mar 16 08:19 |
| schestowitz | > good man and I believe you will do great things. | Mar 16 08:19 |
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| qubitar | qu1j0t3 - what food | Mar 16 20:49 |
| qubitar | do you have a recipe | Mar 16 20:49 |
| qubitar | i doubt you're growing, and cooking all your food from scratch | Mar 16 20:55 |
| schestowitz | Nobody does | Mar 16 20:56 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/47880892143767552 https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/47881295589675008 | Mar 16 20:56 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @FOSSpatents: @schestowitz It's old in terms of when things happened, it's new in terms of conclusive evidence in the form of a court filing, not smear. | Mar 16 20:56 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @FOSSpatents: @schestowitz Moreover, you may remember I discussed it with a Red Hat person here on Twitter last fall and he didn't admit the "old news" | Mar 16 20:56 |
| schestowitz | More spin and diversion from him. It's not new, unless you 'dress' it as "new". | Mar 16 20:57 |
| qubitar | proprietary food is fine? | Mar 16 20:59 |
| schestowitz | Wrong scenario | Mar 16 21:00 |
| schestowitz | Like the open h/w question | Mar 16 21:00 |
| schestowitz | Which RMS is asked a lot | Mar 16 21:00 |
| qubitar | cognitive dissonance | Mar 16 21:00 |
| schestowitz | Then he takes example of a chair | Mar 16 21:00 |
| schestowitz | When you deal with the abundant (like code), rules must change | Mar 16 21:00 |
| schestowitz | Same with copyrights | Mar 16 21:00 |
| schestowitz | The "infinite bread" analogy of RMS springs to mind too | Mar 16 21:01 |
| schestowitz | Since you don't like RMS I bring that up | Mar 16 21:01 |
| qubitar | I like RMS | Mar 16 21:01 |
| qubitar | I just stopped taking it too far | Mar 16 21:01 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/67205144 | Mar 16 21:01 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @Dr. Roy Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Wednesday, 16-Mar-11 20:58:44 UTC - Identi.ca: /me very impressed with on-the-fly dual-head handling in #Fedora 14! Plug-and-play... | Mar 16 21:01 |
| *schestowitz lovs Fedora | Mar 16 21:01 | |
| schestowitz | You're an ambassador, right? | Mar 16 21:02 |
| qubitar | yeah | Mar 16 21:02 |
| qubitar | Fedora is awesome | Mar 16 21:02 |
| schestowitz | I saw you had separated FLOSS blog from other subject -- smart move | Mar 16 21:02 |
| schestowitz | I do the same | Mar 16 21:02 |
| schestowitz | Fedora could benefit from Ubuntu backlash | Mar 16 21:02 |
| schestowitz | I had some people take f14 for a test drive | Mar 16 21:03 |
| qubitar | Fedora actually works with Upstream | Mar 16 21:03 |
| schestowitz | IMHO, Ubuntu could use a little challenge | Mar 16 21:03 |
| qubitar | it doesnt take upstreams work and divert the funding | Mar 16 21:03 |
| sebsebseb | Ubuntu needs some proper competition | Mar 16 21:03 |
| sebsebseb | Fedora isn't it! | Mar 16 21:03 |
| schestowitz | Dominance made it very arrogant and its choices (e.g. ignoring the community) is symptom of that harms of this Hubris | Mar 16 21:03 |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: there's suse | Mar 16 21:03 |
| schestowitz | The community needs to grab the dev by the ears | Mar 16 21:03 |
| sebsebseb | Suse isn't it either! | Mar 16 21:03 |
| schestowitz | Not the other way around | Mar 16 21:03 |
| MinceR | same agenda, etc. | Mar 16 21:03 |
| sebsebseb | in fact none of the current distro's are | Mar 16 21:03 |
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| qubitar | if you don't like Fedora i'd recommend opensuse | Mar 16 21:04 |
| qubitar | i wouldn't recommend anything else | Mar 16 21:04 |
| schestowitz | And if Ubuntu slurped most GNU Linux users and got this way, then it's time for it to slip enough to have more competiton... would be good for everyone | Mar 16 21:04 |
| sebsebseb | opensuse is linked to Novell though | Mar 16 21:04 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz and MinceR beloved Novell | Mar 16 21:04 |
| sebsebseb | :D | Mar 16 21:04 |
| MinceR | not really | Mar 16 21:04 |
| schestowitz | AttachMSFT | Mar 16 21:04 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: is it really called AttachMSFT now? | Mar 16 21:05 |
| qubitar | im convinced opensuse has enough of its own power | Mar 16 21:05 |
| sebsebseb | is it offical? | Mar 16 21:05 |
| schestowitz | Paul Singer&Ballmer | Mar 16 21:05 |
| qubitar | if novell really did hold all the strings, KDE wouldn't have made it to default desktop | Mar 16 21:05 |
| MinceR | i hated back when novell netware lite couldn't make two PCs see each other | Mar 16 21:05 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: no you love all these companeis really espesaily Canonical, Microsoft, and Apple, in most loved order | Mar 16 21:05 |
| schestowitz | The odeo show of Hawn the bison slayer, Darl McBride from Novell, and Yarro | Mar 16 21:05 |
| MinceR | i wonder how you arrived at that order | Mar 16 21:06 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: heh I am messing with you again :) | Mar 16 21:06 |
| MinceR | you're doing it wrong | Mar 16 21:06 |
| schestowitz | LOL | Mar 16 21:06 |
| sebsebseb | uh yeah maybe | Mar 16 21:06 |
| qubitar | sebsebseb what would you suggest over Fedora and openSUSE | Mar 16 21:06 |
| schestowitz | standup comedy from the resident sebsebseb | Mar 16 21:06 |
| sebsebseb | qubitar: Mandriva, PC Linux OS, and Mageia when it's more developed :) | Mar 16 21:06 |
| qubitar | ahhh | Mar 16 21:06 |
| qubitar | you're on that mandriva base | Mar 16 21:07 |
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| schestowitz | PC Linus OS lost some momentum | Mar 16 21:07 |
| schestowitz | It's not dead, just not as visible | Mar 16 21:07 |
| sebsebseb | or a lot of momentum it lost | Mar 16 21:07 |
| sebsebseb | Mageia has a chance at gaining quite a lot of market share, when more developed I think :) | Mar 16 21:07 |
| qubitar | competition is good | Mar 16 21:07 |
| sebsebseb | as long as the community is strong :) | Mar 16 21:07 |
| schestowitz | And a couple of weeks ago I updates a mate;s machine that I put pclos on... some repos were not there | Mar 16 21:07 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: yes libio was being re done and such | Mar 16 21:07 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: repo's are fine now | Mar 16 21:08 |
| schestowitz | Not just that | Mar 16 21:08 |
| qubitar | opensuse has a lot of features I want fedora to copy | Mar 16 21:08 |
| qubitar | lol | Mar 16 21:08 |
| schestowitz | I was trying to find ekiga on repos | Mar 16 21:08 |
| sebsebseb | qubitar: also Linux Mint based on Ubuntu isn't that bad really, and of course there's Linux Mint Debian Edition as well | Mar 16 21:08 |
| schestowitz | So I marked/ticked all of them | Mar 16 21:08 |
| schestowitz | They used to have games repos | Mar 16 21:08 |
| sebsebseb | qubitar: in fact I am much more impressed with Mint now, than I used to be, because Ubuntu itself, is getting so bad now really | Mar 16 21:08 |
| qubitar | sebsebseb I have a personal preference to avoid deb based distros | Mar 16 21:08 |
| sebsebseb | and Mint is like, nice graphics | Mar 16 21:08 |
| schestowitz | PCLinuxOS is rock solid anyway | Mar 16 21:09 |
| sebsebseb | nice mint menu | Mar 16 21:09 |
| sebsebseb | Mint has everything I like from Ubuntu, looking nicer, and some added user friendly, basicalley | Mar 16 21:09 |
| schestowitz | Mint is as good as Ubuntu... because of what it is | Mar 16 21:09 |
| schestowitz | But it's even less liberal than Ubuntu | Mar 16 21:09 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: Mint is better than Ubuntu now really | Mar 16 21:09 |
| schestowitz | Seems so | Mar 16 21:09 |
| schestowitz | Although I haven;'t tried ubuntu 10.10 | Mar 16 21:09 |
| schestowitz | Just 10.0 LTS on some boxes | Mar 16 21:09 |
| schestowitz | *04 | Mar 16 21:10 |
| qubitar | I tried Kubuntu 10.10 | Mar 16 21:10 |
| sebsebseb | well 10.10 is pretty similar to 10.04, just the theme got a tiny bit better, and there's a sound menu as well | Mar 16 21:10 |
| sebsebseb | for example | Mar 16 21:10 |
| qubitar | it was smart enough to figure out I had a netbook and used the interface | Mar 16 21:10 |
| sebsebseb | qubitar: or you mean KDE was smart enough to figure that out | Mar 16 21:11 |
| sebsebseb | anyway Kubuntu is very close to upsteram KDE | Mar 16 21:11 |
| sebsebseb | as far as I know | Mar 16 21:11 |
| qubitar | sebsebseb - no, opensuse and fedora didnt detect my netbook | Mar 16 21:11 |
| sebsebseb | I mean the not changing the theme and so on | Mar 16 21:11 |
| qubitar | i had to manually enable the netbook interface | Mar 16 21:11 |
| sebsebseb | oh ok | Mar 16 21:11 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: https://twitter.com/#!/rubberstamprosk/status/48127625599787008 | Mar 16 21:14 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @rubberstamprosk: How The Wealthy Plan to Finance The American Aristocracy With Middle Class Dollars http://bit.ly/eozK3I #youcut #pledge #gopwwf #p2 #tcot | Mar 16 21:14 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | -> Title: How The Wealthy Plan to Finance The American Aristocracy With Middle Class Dollars - Rick Ungar - The Policy Page - Forbes .::. Size~: 183.87 KB | Mar 16 21:14 |
| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: not now :-) | Mar 16 21:26 |
| schestowitz | I'm trying to get other work done without getting annoyed by the world's real leaders stomping on everyone :-) | Mar 16 21:27 |
| qubitar | they're buying off the poor with a cut of that pie | Mar 16 21:27 |
| schestowitz | Coding 9-5 is a lot of fun for the time being. My code and data are located at /home/schestow again for others to audit and there are many meetings, as opposed to working via SSH from home (which is what I'll do when the connection is back). | Mar 16 21:28 |
| schestowitz | pairs of 3d datasets will be added to my account for experiments this week. I must say I enjoy the project! And we do some heavy work with clusters. | Mar 16 21:28 |
| schestowitz | qubitar: as always | Mar 16 21:28 |
| schestowitz | But a lot of people need to be shown that | Mar 16 21:29 |
| qubitar | gtg be back on ender later | Mar 16 21:29 |
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| Valbowski | hey guys. Any came across a troubleshoot guide for buggy printer drivers making spoolsrv.exe leak handles? | Mar 16 21:41 |
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| schestowitz | http://openbytes.wordpress.com/2011/03/09/windows-7-app-sales-error-next-web-gets-corrected-by-dev/ | Mar 16 22:19 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Windows 7 app sales error? โ Next Web gets corrected by developer ยซ OpenBytes .::. Size~: 44.05 KB | Mar 16 22:19 |
| schestowitz | *LOL* Microsoft is still planting articles? | Mar 16 22:19 |
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| Quadrescence | schestowitz: do you know anything about probate (in the USA)? | Mar 17 00:13 |
| schestowitz | No, why? | Mar 17 00:14 |
| Quadrescence | schestowitz: Just because there's a company whose software is in probate because the owner died, and a former CEO is/was trying to open source it. | Mar 17 00:19 |
| Quadrescence | I just wanted to know more | Mar 17 00:19 |
| schestowitz | doesn't ring a bell. Toby might know | Mar 17 00:25 |
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| MinceR | btw, a dent from FMtroll somehow made it into #techrights today :> | Mar 17 22:19 |
| schestowitz | maybe he started denting | Mar 17 22:20 |
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| schestowitz | hi | Mar 18 20:00 |
| FurnaceBoy | hi | Mar 18 20:03 |
| schestowitz | I'll dent a bit today as I got spare banwidth to spend. BT mailed me today.... a few more days before normality | Mar 18 20:07 |
| schestowitz | Although it has been somewhat productive to be offline.. https://identi.ca/notice/67428262 | Mar 18 20:08 |
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| TechrightsBot-sc | Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-sc running phIRCe v0.53 | Mar 18 20:09 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/67428262 | Mar 18 20:09 |
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| TechrightsBot-sc | @Dr. Roy Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Friday, 18-Mar-11 20:05:55 UTC - Identi.ca: Fedora, Importance of GNU/Linux Competition, and Technological Freedom http://ur1.ca/3kj0s #fedora #gnu #linux #freedom | Mar 18 20:09 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | -> Title: schestowitz.com ยป Blog Archive ยป Fedora, Importance of GNU/Linux Competition, and Technological Freedom .::. Size~: 37.46 KB | Mar 18 20:09 |
| schestowitz | http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-12688839 | Mar 18 20:28 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: BBC News - Home wi-fi '30% slower' than fixed broadband .::. Size~: 56.28 KB | Mar 18 20:28 |
| schestowitz | Mobile broadband speeds are actually decent, but throttled | Mar 18 20:29 |
| schestowitz | One of my monitors is knackered and the prices of monitors have oddly enough not come down in the past 3 years ?!!?!?!!!!# http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Monitors/24%26quot%3B+Monitors/ | Mar 18 20:47 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: 24 inch tft monitors - Aria Technology .::. Size~: 52.04 KB | Mar 18 20:47 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: https://identi.ca/notice/67431748 | Mar 18 20:47 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @Stรยฉphane Marguet (stemp)'s status on Friday, 18-Mar-11 20:39:56 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz No no no please ! No OSuX, ,nor M$. If you have arguments, you don't need name's calling :/ | Mar 18 20:47 |
| MinceR | yes, bow before the holy dignity of crApple and m$ | Mar 18 20:48 |
| schestowitz | I like "OSux", it's funny | Mar 18 20:48 |
| MinceR | respect them for all the great things they've done, such as... what exactly? | Mar 18 20:48 |
| schestowitz | Branding achievements | Mar 18 20:49 |
| qubitar | monitors came down since I purchased my last one | Mar 18 20:54 |
| qubitar | $230 for my 19 inch a few years ago | Mar 18 20:55 |
| qubitar | now 20+ is $120ish | Mar 18 20:55 |
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| schestowitz | I bought a 24'inch in 2008 for about 150 (IIRC) | Mar 18 21:07 |
| schestowitz | Now the cheapest one is about 130 (same size) | Mar 18 21:07 |
| schestowitz | Memory and magnetic storage cost fall much much faster | Mar 18 21:08 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/67433227 | Mar 18 21:08 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @Stefano Maffulli (smaffulli)'s status on Friday, 18-Mar-11 20:53:39 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Google search results are different for everybody. What's the important news? | Mar 18 21:08 |
| schestowitz | Peter Brown has stepped down | Mar 18 21:08 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/ircolle/status/48847795976810496 | Mar 18 21:09 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @ircolle: Better link: http://bit.ly/gfHgoK RT @schestowitz: Important news about FSF head stepping down not covered by mainstream press. | Mar 18 21:09 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | -> Title: Open Source Report: Free Software Foundation has a new executive director .::. Size~: 75.56 KB | Mar 18 21:09 |
| MinceR | so did Bradley Kuhn and yet the world didn't end :> | Mar 18 21:10 |
| schestowitz | when? | Mar 18 21:10 |
| schestowitz | Recently? | Mar 18 21:10 |
| schestowitz | He rejoined | Mar 18 21:10 |
| MinceR | afaik he was the previous executive director before Peter Brown | Mar 18 21:12 |
| schestowitz | http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hUNJm_2C09zXzYlqrYEXHNOGp17g?docId=5f92143a51e34e398156a72f312a63b4 | Mar 18 21:12 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: The Associated Press: Goldman Sachs in Kremlin investment fund talks .::. Size~: 9.63 KB | Mar 18 21:12 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: pete left after the fundraiser | Mar 18 21:12 |
| MinceR | did he state his reasons? | Mar 18 21:13 |
| schestowitz | And they can't seem to get much traction in a world of self-acclaimed pragmatists | Mar 18 21:13 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: no | Mar 18 21:13 |
| schestowitz | He wants a break, he says | Mar 18 21:13 |
| schestowitz | So not snatched for a big wage | Mar 18 21:13 |
| schestowitz | *LOL* The Onion treated like a household name now? http://osdir.com/Article10717.phtml | Mar 18 21:16 |
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| schestowitz | I bet he therefore pushed this into /. FP by submitting self-produced lies | Mar 18 21:17 |
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| schestowitz | Monitoring work today.... I read about the mysql headache in the mailing lists. Glad it's dealt with, nagios keeps the major errors away before they can even affect operation. | Mar 19 09:00 |
| schestowitz | Monitoring work today.... I read about the mysql headache in the mailing lists. Glad it's dealt with, nagios keeps the major errors away before they can even affect operation. | Mar 19 09:00 |
| schestowitz | So not much denting until tonight | Mar 19 09:00 |
| schestowitz | So not much denting until tonight | Mar 19 09:00 |
| schestowitz | Just to inform you, BT comes to enable my broadband on Tuesday. Until then I carry on using a dongle, but O2 mobile broadband appears to be hostile towards VPN, which means I use lynx on the servers (over SSH) to access the resources I need. Next week will be simpler :-) | Mar 19 09:16 |
| schestowitz | Just to inform you, BT comes to enable my broadband on Tuesday. Until then I carry on using a dongle, but O2 mobile broadband appears to be hostile towards VPN, which means I use lynx on the servers (over SSH) to access the resources I need. Next week will be simpler :-) | Mar 19 09:16 |
| schestowitz | Just got: "Glad to see you're back and almost back up to your normal prodigious self...haha." | Mar 19 09:17 |
| schestowitz | Just got: "Glad to see you're back and almost back up to your normal prodigious self...haha." | Mar 19 09:17 |
| schestowitz | Unless there are objections, I will avoid politics in my dents, I think | Mar 19 09:17 |
| schestowitz | Unless there are objections, I will avoid politics in my dents, I think | Mar 19 09:17 |
| schestowitz | To the extent possible anyway | Mar 19 09:18 |
| schestowitz | To the extent possible anyway | Mar 19 09:18 |
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| schestowitz | I think o2 blocks vpn... o2 mobile broadband | Mar 19 16:22 |
| schestowitz | I think o2 blocks vpn... o2 mobile broadband | Mar 19 16:22 |
| schestowitz | What rubbish | Mar 19 16:22 |
| schestowitz | What rubbish | Mar 19 16:22 |
| qu1j0t3 | which vpn? | Mar 19 16:27 |
| qu1j0t3 | which vpn? | Mar 19 16:27 |
| qu1j0t3 | you can probably just use a different vpn they don't block :) | Mar 19 16:28 |
| qu1j0t3 | you can probably just use a different vpn they don't block :) | Mar 19 16:28 |
| schestowitz | openvpn | Mar 19 16:36 |
| schestowitz | openvpn | Mar 19 16:36 |
| qu1j0t3 | hm, my favourite :) | Mar 19 16:38 |
| qu1j0t3 | hm, my favourite :) | Mar 19 16:38 |
| qu1j0t3 | tried switching ports? | Mar 19 16:39 |
| qu1j0t3 | tried switching ports? | Mar 19 16:39 |
| qu1j0t3 | do you think they inspect packets? | Mar 19 16:39 |
| qu1j0t3 | do you think they inspect packets? | Mar 19 16:39 |
| schestowitz | It doesn't matter much | Mar 19 16:47 |
| schestowitz | It doesn't matter much | Mar 19 16:47 |
| schestowitz | In 3 days I get a proper BT connection | Mar 19 16:47 |
| schestowitz | In 3 days I get a proper BT connection | Mar 19 16:47 |
| schestowitz | Unlimited | Mar 19 16:47 |
| schestowitz | Unlimited | Mar 19 16:47 |
| schestowitz | SSH+Xfest will commence :-) | Mar 19 16:47 |
| schestowitz | SSH+Xfest will commence :-) | Mar 19 16:47 |
| schestowitz | http://www.osor.eu/news/de-company-network-to-be-funded-to-develop-open-source-business-software-1 | Mar 19 16:50 |
| schestowitz | http://www.osor.eu/news/de-company-network-to-be-funded-to-develop-open-source-business-software-1 | Mar 19 16:50 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: DE: Company network to be funded to develop open source business software โ .::. Size~: 30.07 KB | Mar 19 16:50 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: DE: Company network to be funded to develop open source business software โ .::. Size~: 30.07 KB | Mar 19 16:50 |
| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: what would you say if me (or anyone) decided to not cover as much political stuff in twitter? | Mar 19 16:51 |
| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: what would you say if me (or anyone) decided to not cover as much political stuff in twitter? | Mar 19 16:51 |
| qu1j0t3 | it's your call, i wouldn't judge anyone for it | Mar 19 16:52 |
| qu1j0t3 | it's your call, i wouldn't judge anyone for it | Mar 19 16:52 |
| qu1j0t3 | priorities change | Mar 19 16:52 |
| qu1j0t3 | priorities change | Mar 19 16:52 |
| qu1j0t3 | i am tweeting less | Mar 19 16:52 |
| qu1j0t3 | i am tweeting less | Mar 19 16:52 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: it's very likely that i will accept a full time offer i received | Mar 19 16:53 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: it's very likely that i will accept a full time offer i received | Mar 19 16:53 |
| schestowitz | Congrats | Mar 19 16:53 |
| schestowitz | Congrats | Mar 19 16:53 |
| schestowitz | The political stuff can fall on deaf ears if people subscribe based on one's FOSS content | Mar 19 16:55 |
| schestowitz | The political stuff can fall on deaf ears if people subscribe based on one's FOSS content | Mar 19 16:55 |
| schestowitz | Not deceptive to political signal | Mar 19 16:55 |
| schestowitz | Not deceptive to political signal | Mar 19 16:55 |
| schestowitz | And I saw you too left the wikileaks avatar (assange) behind for now | Mar 19 16:55 |
| schestowitz | And I saw you too left the wikileaks avatar (assange) behind for now | Mar 19 16:55 |
| Mar 19 17:09:25 <qu1j0t3>for now... | Mar 19 17:09 | |
| qu1j0t3 | for now... | |
| schestowitz | They are still angry at Guardian\ | Mar 19 17:13 |
| schestowitz | They are still angry at Guardian\ | Mar 19 17:13 |
| schestowitz | The Guardian happily attacks Wikileaks for kicks | Mar 19 17:13 |
| schestowitz | The Guardian happily attacks Wikileaks for kicks | Mar 19 17:13 |
| schestowitz | While getting millions in kickbacks from Bill Gates to worship him and his wife | Mar 19 17:14 |
| schestowitz | While getting millions in kickbacks from Bill Gates to worship him and his wife | Mar 19 17:14 |
| schestowitz | That paper starts making me sick | Mar 19 17:14 |
| schestowitz | That paper starts making me sick | Mar 19 17:14 |
| schestowitz | And since RMS links to it a lot, I thought about staying out of that area of "progressives" (funded by Gates) | Mar 19 17:14 |
| schestowitz | And since RMS links to it a lot, I thought about staying out of that area of "progressives" (funded by Gates) | Mar 19 17:14 |
| Mar 19 17:15:17 <schestowitz>RMS has eventsecond link linking them. I don't fault RMS, but reading him leads me to citing The Grauniad | Mar 19 17:15 | |
| schestowitz | RMS has eventsecond link linking them. I don't fault RMS, but reading him leads me to citing The Grauniad | |
| schestowitz | Wikileaks=bad | Mar 19 17:15 |
| schestowitz | Wikileaks=bad | Mar 19 17:15 |
| schestowitz | GAtes monopolisation=admirable | Mar 19 17:15 |
| schestowitz | GAtes monopolisation=admirable | Mar 19 17:15 |
| schestowitz | Thanks, Grauniad | Mar 19 17:15 |
| schestowitz | Thanks, Grauniad | Mar 19 17:15 |
| qu1j0t3 | right, thinks are not improving much | Mar 19 17:21 |
| qu1j0t3 | right, thinks are not improving much | Mar 19 17:21 |
| qu1j0t3 | things* | Mar 19 17:21 |
| qu1j0t3 | things* | Mar 19 17:21 |
| schestowitz | I know | Mar 19 17:22 |
| schestowitz | I know | Mar 19 17:22 |
| schestowitz | Well, more to write about to teach people, on the upside, I guess... | Mar 19 17:23 |
| schestowitz | Well, more to write about to teach people, on the upside, I guess... | Mar 19 17:23 |
| schestowitz | http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/techchron/detail?entry_id=84205 http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/techchron/detail?entry_id=84434 I don't get it. Why did he become so famous all of a sudden? Some TV show breakthrough? | Mar 19 17:24 |
| schestowitz | http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/techchron/detail?entry_id=84205 http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/techchron/detail?entry_id=84434 I don't get it. Why did he become so famous all of a sudden? Some TV show breakthrough? | Mar 19 17:24 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: @charliesheen sets new Twitter speed record? Zero to 1 million in 24 hours : The Technology Chronicles .::. Size~: 69.8 KB | Mar 19 17:24 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: @charliesheen sets new Twitter speed record? Zero to 1 million in 24 hours : The Technology Chronicles .::. Size~: 69.8 KB | Mar 19 17:24 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Charlie Sheen joins Ustream : The Technology Chronicles .::. Size~: 66.89 KB | Mar 19 17:24 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Charlie Sheen joins Ustream : The Technology Chronicles .::. Size~: 66.89 KB | Mar 19 17:24 |
| schestowitz | Now he's like a meme, but I'm not entirely sure how/why | Mar 19 17:25 |
| schestowitz | Now he's like a meme, but I'm not entirely sure how/why | Mar 19 17:25 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: bad behaviour in a culture that values bad behaviour. | Mar 19 17:25 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: bad behaviour in a culture that values bad behaviour. | Mar 19 17:25 |
| schestowitz | That's counter-intuitive and the impression I got too | Mar 19 17:25 |
| schestowitz | That's counter-intuitive and the impression I got too | Mar 19 17:25 |
| qu1j0t3 | it's not counterintuitive. | Mar 19 17:25 |
| qu1j0t3 | it's not counterintuitive. | Mar 19 17:25 |
| schestowitz | Like pulling a knife on (ex) wife | Mar 19 17:25 |
| schestowitz | Like pulling a knife on (ex) wife | Mar 19 17:25 |
| qu1j0t3 | it's what we have already proven | Mar 19 17:25 |
| qu1j0t3 | it's what we have already proven | Mar 19 17:25 |
| qu1j0t3 | yes | Mar 19 17:25 |
| qu1j0t3 | yes | Mar 19 17:25 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: almost everything is backward. | Mar 19 17:25 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: almost everything is backward. | Mar 19 17:25 |
| qu1j0t3 | Manning is tortured, Bush walks | Mar 19 17:25 |
| qu1j0t3 | Manning is tortured, Bush walks | Mar 19 17:25 |
| schestowitz | Heh | Mar 19 17:25 |
| schestowitz | Heh | Mar 19 17:25 |
| schestowitz | Counter-culture | Mar 19 17:26 |
| schestowitz | Counter-culture | Mar 19 17:26 |
| qu1j0t3 | etc etc etc | Mar 19 17:26 |
| qu1j0t3 | etc etc etc | Mar 19 17:26 |
| qu1j0t3 | thieves are feted | Mar 19 17:26 |
| qu1j0t3 | thieves are feted | Mar 19 17:26 |
| schestowitz | And he hangs around with some conpiracists too | Mar 19 17:26 |
| schestowitz | And he hangs around with some conpiracists too | Mar 19 17:26 |
| qu1j0t3 | honest men attacked | Mar 19 17:26 |
| qu1j0t3 | honest men attacked | Mar 19 17:26 |
| schestowitz | RMS | Mar 19 17:26 |
| schestowitz | RMS | Mar 19 17:26 |
| qu1j0t3 | Sheen, the violent maniac, rewarded, treated as the pinnacle of success | Mar 19 17:26 |
| qu1j0t3 | Sheen, the violent maniac, rewarded, treated as the pinnacle of success | Mar 19 17:26 |
| qu1j0t3 | ditto Gates, the ultimate con man | Mar 19 17:26 |
| qu1j0t3 | ditto Gates, the ultimate con man | Mar 19 17:26 |
| schestowitz | I guess RMS' mistake is that he goes against wealth | Mar 19 17:26 |
| schestowitz | I guess RMS' mistake is that he goes against wealth | Mar 19 17:26 |
| qu1j0t3 | his mistake is having principles | Mar 19 17:27 |
| qu1j0t3 | his mistake is having principles | Mar 19 17:27 |
| schestowitz | Never screw with TV produces and Hollywood | Mar 19 17:27 |
| schestowitz | Never screw with TV produces and Hollywood | Mar 19 17:27 |
| qu1j0t3 | in that culture, it's a crime to be honest | Mar 19 17:27 |
| qu1j0t3 | in that culture, it's a crime to be honest | Mar 19 17:27 |
| schestowitz | Screwing the small people=OK (see Goldman Sachs) | Mar 19 17:27 |
| schestowitz | Screwing the small people=OK (see Goldman Sachs) | Mar 19 17:27 |
| qu1j0t3 | yes | Mar 19 17:27 |
| qu1j0t3 | yes | Mar 19 17:27 |
| schestowitz | Stalking from people more powerful than you -> Madoff | Mar 19 17:27 |
| schestowitz | Stalking from people more powerful than you -> Madoff | Mar 19 17:27 |
| schestowitz | *Stealing | Mar 19 17:27 |
| schestowitz | *Stealing | Mar 19 17:27 |
| qu1j0t3 | destroy foreign societies with bombs, destroy domestic society with the neutron bomb of fraud | Mar 19 17:28 |
| qu1j0t3 | destroy foreign societies with bombs, destroy domestic society with the neutron bomb of fraud | Mar 19 17:28 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: at a minimum you should read this: https://twitter.com/#!/rubberstamprosk/status/48127625599787008 https://twitter.com/#!/qu1j0t3/status/48532385230372864 | Mar 19 17:32 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: at a minimum you should read this: https://twitter.com/#!/rubberstamprosk/status/48127625599787008 https://twitter.com/#!/qu1j0t3/status/48532385230372864 | Mar 19 17:32 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @rubberstamprosk: How The Wealthy Plan to Finance The American Aristocracy With Middle Class Dollars http://bit.ly/eozK3I #youcut #pledge #gopwwf #p2 #tcot | Mar 19 17:32 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @rubberstamprosk: How The Wealthy Plan to Finance The American Aristocracy With Middle Class Dollars http://bit.ly/eozK3I #youcut #pledge #gopwwf #p2 #tcot | Mar 19 17:32 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | -> Title: How The Wealthy Plan to Finance The American Aristocracy With Middle Class Dollars - Rick Ungar - The Policy Page - Forbes .::. Size~: 196.19 KB | Mar 19 17:32 |
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| TechrightsBot-sc | @qu1j0t3: 'In [American] version of air "war,"..the killing &the dying are perfectly and precisely..separated. We kill, they die' http://shar.es/3Q7df | Mar 19 17:32 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @qu1j0t3: 'In [American] version of air "war,"..the killing &the dying are perfectly and precisely..separated. We kill, they die' http://shar.es/3Q7df | Mar 19 17:32 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | -> Title: Taking the "war" out of air war - War Room - Salon.com .::. Size~: 79.32 KB | Mar 19 17:32 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | -> Title: Taking the "war" out of air war - War Room - Salon.com .::. Size~: 79.32 KB | Mar 19 17:32 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/66335539 | Mar 19 17:33 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/66335539 | Mar 19 17:33 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @Georg C. F. Greve (greve)'s status on Monday, 07-Mar-11 13:06:14 UTC - Identi.ca: Dear Universities, are you listening? Free Software competency is almost a job guarantee these days! | Mar 19 17:33 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @Georg C. F. Greve (greve)'s status on Monday, 07-Mar-11 13:06:14 UTC - Identi.ca: Dear Universities, are you listening? Free Software competency is almost a job guarantee these days! | Mar 19 17:33 |
| schestowitz | Thanks, I'll add those | Mar 19 17:33 |
| schestowitz | Thanks, I'll add those | Mar 19 17:33 |
| qu1j0t3 | the air war thing is something i've been thinking about for a long time | Mar 19 17:33 |
| qu1j0t3 | the air war thing is something i've been thinking about for a long time | Mar 19 17:33 |
| qu1j0t3 | it's an abuse of language once again | Mar 19 17:34 |
| qu1j0t3 | it's an abuse of language once again | Mar 19 17:34 |
| qu1j0t3 | it's no definition of 'war' | Mar 19 17:34 |
| qu1j0t3 | it's no definition of 'war' | Mar 19 17:34 |
| qu1j0t3 | just as israel is not waging a 'war' on palestine. there is no 'battle', no 'conflict'. | Mar 19 17:34 |
| qu1j0t3 | just as israel is not waging a 'war' on palestine. there is no 'battle', no 'conflict'. | Mar 19 17:34 |
| qu1j0t3 | what it is is one over-funded nation throwing ordnance at the helpless. | Mar 19 17:34 |
| qu1j0t3 | what it is is one over-funded nation throwing ordnance at the helpless. | Mar 19 17:34 |
| qu1j0t3 | that's what US/Israel call 'war' | Mar 19 17:35 |
| qu1j0t3 | that's what US/Israel call 'war' | Mar 19 17:35 |
| schestowitz | zinn, once a bombardier, had interesting things to say about air war | Mar 19 17:39 |
| schestowitz | zinn, once a bombardier, had interesting things to say about air war | Mar 19 17:39 |
| schestowitz | !google youtube kreisler conversation in history zinn | Mar 19 17:39 |
| schestowitz | !google youtube kreisler conversation in history zinn | Mar 19 17:39 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | [1] - YouTube - Conversations with History: Howard Zinn | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DIMt7cFFKPeM | Mar 19 17:39 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | [1] - YouTube - Conversations with History: Howard Zinn | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DIMt7cFFKPeM | Mar 19 17:39 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | [2] - YouTube - Conversations with History - Harry Kreisler | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DoTMQLkHzNk0 | Mar 19 17:39 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | [3] - YouTube - Conversations With History: Political Awakenings | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3Dr-j2pCHWw1s | Mar 19 17:39 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | [4] - Conversations with History | University of California, Berkeley | http://conversations.berkeley.edu/ | Mar 19 17:39 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | [2] - YouTube - Conversations with History - Harry Kreisler | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DoTMQLkHzNk0 | Mar 19 17:39 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | [3] - YouTube - Conversations With History: Political Awakenings | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3Dr-j2pCHWw1s | Mar 19 17:39 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | [4] - Conversations with History | University of California, Berkeley | http://conversations.berkeley.edu/ | Mar 19 17:39 |
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| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: http://www.infowars.com/world-war-iii-one-nation-at-a-time/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter | Mar 19 21:03 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: http://www.infowars.com/world-war-iii-one-nation-at-a-time/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter | Mar 19 21:03 |
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| qu1j0t3 | "They have created a perfect system, a strategy of tension, where we wrestle with one battle after another, work to head-off one war after another, expose meddling and subversion in one nation after another all while their agenda moves ever forward. | Mar 19 21:03 |
| qu1j0t3 | "They have created a perfect system, a strategy of tension, where we wrestle with one battle after another, work to head-off one war after another, expose meddling and subversion in one nation after another all while their agenda moves ever forward. | Mar 19 21:03 |
| schestowitz | I don't pay much attention to them | Mar 19 22:56 |
| schestowitz | I don't pay much attention to them | Mar 19 22:56 |
| schestowitz | They said too much stuff that harms their credibility and the comparison of today's West to Nazism is not helping | Mar 19 22:56 |
| schestowitz | They said too much stuff that harms their credibility and the comparison of today's West to Nazism is not helping | Mar 19 22:56 |
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| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: http://reason.com/archives/2011/03/09/tiny-cuts-big-complaints | Mar 20 10:30 |
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| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: https://twitter.com/#!/mediaguardian/status/49552408300359680 | Mar 20 19:48 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @mediaguardian: BBC World Service to sign funding deal with US state department http://gu.com/p/2nq3j/tf | Mar 20 19:48 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: W. T. F. | Mar 20 19:48 |
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| schestowitz | no disguise of independence then | Mar 20 20:28 |
| qu1j0t3 | astonishing | Mar 20 20:37 |
| schestowitz | Not really | Mar 20 20:50 |
| schestowitz | If it said Murdoch I'd be angry | Mar 20 20:50 |
| schestowitz | For Clinton to use the BBC to carry on the agenda of foreign policy trend setting and wikileaks smaering is normal | Mar 20 20:51 |
| qu1j0t3 | but funding???? | Mar 20 20:51 |
| schestowitz | !google george orwell quits bbc | Mar 20 20:51 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | [1] - George Orwell Timeline of Important Dates | http://www.shmoop.com/george-orwell/timeline.html | Mar 20 20:51 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | [2] - BBC NEWS | UK | How to make a perfect cuppa | http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk/3016342.stm | Mar 20 20:51 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | [3] - W. Scott Lucas Special Commissioned Entry on George Orwell Criticism | http://www.enotes.com/twentieth-century-criticism/special-commissioned-entry-george-orwell-w-scott | Mar 20 20:51 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | [4] - YouTube - 9/11 And The BBC Conspiracy part 1 | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3D7vhT2JMH4OU | Mar 20 20:51 |
| qu1j0t3 | i remain astonished | Mar 20 20:51 |
| schestowitz | Yes | Mar 20 20:51 |
| schestowitz | To add "objectivism" | Mar 20 20:51 |
| schestowitz | We thought we were paying for that | Mar 20 20:52 |
| schestowitz | Apparently, Clinton does too | Mar 20 20:52 |
| qu1j0t3 | it formalises the role of the bbc as an agent of us foreign policy | Mar 20 20:52 |
| schestowitz | Which beats the purpose really | Mar 20 20:52 |
| qu1j0t3 | i mean we knew it was doing that in effect, but not formally | Mar 20 20:52 |
| schestowitz | Yes, good for mental note and one's bookmark/reflist :-) | Mar 20 20:52 |
| schestowitz | Actually, I should blog it.. | Mar 20 20:52 |
| schestowitz | Give me a while, I know where it fits... | Mar 20 20:52 |
| schestowitz | BBC WOrld Service is run by a Microsoft UK guy | Mar 20 20:53 |
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| sebsebseb | hi | Mar 21 14:56 |
| qu1j0t3 | hi | Mar 21 14:59 |
| sebsebseb | Amundsen-Scott South Pole Station: Freezing fog -28 o in the air C | Mar 21 15:00 |
| sebsebseb | feels like 82.0 o in the air C | Mar 21 15:00 |
| sebsebseb | qu1j0t3: I put in the first number wrong that's -58 | Mar 21 15:01 |
| sebsebseb | anyway that's cold and this is according to Gnome weather | Mar 21 15:01 |
| qu1j0t3 | yes, that's cold, but not unusual for the location :D | Mar 21 15:04 |
| sebsebseb | qu1j0t3: MinceR http://desktoplinuxreviews.com/2011/03/16/fusion-14-thorium/ | Mar 21 15:05 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Fusion 14 Thorium | Desktop Linux Reviews .::. Size~: 100.24 KB | Mar 21 15:05 |
| sebsebseb | and there's a video looks pretty interesting really | Mar 21 15:05 |
| sebsebseb | going to watch the video properly now :) | Mar 21 15:05 |
| sebsebseb | and yeah Fedora can be quite user friendly as this shows | Mar 21 15:05 |
| MinceR | hm, i don't remember reading about Fusion before | Mar 21 15:05 |
| MinceR | but the basic idea is interesting indeed | Mar 21 15:06 |
| sebsebseb | yeah indeed I don't remember reading about it before either | Mar 21 15:06 |
| sebsebseb | also that's something a Fedora based distro with the Mint menu | Mar 21 15:06 |
| sebsebseb | not just codecs and what not | Mar 21 15:07 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: also it has some sort of termainl set up program even for some stuff as the review show's, I'll have to vm this distro as well of course :) | Mar 21 15:07 |
| sebsebseb | I don't think Fedora itself is good enough to compete properly against Ubuntu, but this Fusion distro hmm :D | Mar 21 15:08 |
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| sebsebseb | MinceR: qu1j0t3 Seen the video and yeah it's like Mint, but for Fedora and with much more apps | Mar 21 15:28 |
| sebsebseb | nisshh: about at all? | Mar 21 15:31 |
| MinceR | installing banshee (mono) by default is not so nice | Mar 21 15:34 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: it has Gnome Do as part of it as well | Mar 21 15:35 |
| sebsebseb | you watching video or something? | Mar 21 15:35 |
| sebsebseb | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JT3dQ9ohLE4&feature=feedu | Mar 21 15:36 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: YouTube - Fusion Linux 14 Review - Linux Distro Reviews .::. Size~: 85.95 KB | Mar 21 15:36 |
| MinceR | nope, just reading the review | Mar 21 15:36 |
| sebsebseb | it's still quite impressive | Mar 21 15:36 |
| sebsebseb | by the looks of it going by the review and video | Mar 21 15:36 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: also loads of distro's do Mono stuff by default, Ubuntu being a prime example | Mar 21 15:37 |
| MinceR | i'm aware of it | Mar 21 15:39 |
| MinceR | and i'm not happy about it | Mar 21 15:39 |
| sebsebseb | anyway check out the video for fusion LInux :) | Mar 21 15:39 |
| sebsebseb | pretty good | Mar 21 15:39 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: Mint menu is pretty nice | Mar 21 15:40 |
| sebsebseb | yes it's a Gnome 2 patch, but not made by Canonical/Ubuntu and one that is pretty good really :) | Mar 21 15:41 |
| MinceR | indeed | Mar 21 15:41 |
| MinceR | i'm not sure if i'd want to use the gnome panel though | Mar 21 15:41 |
| sebsebseb | applications places and system you mean or? | Mar 21 15:42 |
| sebsebseb | I would have that at the top as well :) | Mar 21 15:42 |
| sebsebseb | like I did with the install of Linux Mint 9 (based on Ubuntu 10.04) that I did for my brother in Jan | Mar 21 15:42 |
| sebsebseb | older brother | Mar 21 15:42 |
| MinceR | i mean gnome-panel | Mar 21 15:42 |
| sebsebseb | uh what's wrong with the Gnome 2 panels? | Mar 21 15:42 |
| MinceR | if i did, i'd of course replace the wordy menus with one | Mar 21 15:42 |
| sebsebseb | the wordy menus ? | Mar 21 15:43 |
| MinceR | the ones you mentioned | Mar 21 15:43 |
| sebsebseb | there's an option in Gnome 2 so can have a | Mar 21 15:43 |
| sebsebseb | well | Mar 21 15:43 |
| sebsebseb | menu list instead | Mar 21 15:43 |
| MinceR | well, i'm not sure yet if i will be able to configure gnome-panel for the new desktop layout i'm planning as i want to | Mar 21 15:43 |
| sebsebseb | like a start menu in Windows | Mar 21 15:43 |
| MinceR | yes, i used that | Mar 21 15:43 |
| sebsebseb | XP | Mar 21 15:43 |
| sebsebseb | 95 28 | Mar 21 15:43 |
| sebsebseb | uh 98 | Mar 21 15:43 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: anyway for Ubuntu 11.04 the Ubuntu classic mode | Mar 21 15:44 |
| sebsebseb | will have | Mar 21 15:44 |
| sebsebseb | that | Mar 21 15:44 |
| MinceR | well, more like KDE, since the button is just an icon then | Mar 21 15:44 |
| sebsebseb | and | Mar 21 15:44 |
| sebsebseb | it's getting the global menu | Mar 21 15:44 |
| sebsebseb | in a way I should say already has those, since it already does in development for quite a while now | Mar 21 15:44 |
| MinceR | i stopped caring for ubuntu | Mar 21 15:44 |
| sebsebseb | the global menu, the window buttons in the panel thing, uh :( | Mar 21 15:44 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: I think Fusion Linux may be a distro for me to start doing support for :D | Mar 21 15:45 |
| sebsebseb | here and there | Mar 21 15:45 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: now what I do is I don't help with Ubuntu anymore, and help with other distro's here and there instead :D | Mar 21 15:45 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: well if they got an IRC channel hmm | Mar 21 15:46 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: uh something odd going on with my computer now it seems, or my browser anyway Firefox hmm | Mar 21 15:48 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: ok want to test something for me? | Mar 21 15:49 |
| sebsebseb | maybe not quite the best thing to test though | Mar 21 15:49 |
| MinceR | can't do it now, leaving work right now :> | Mar 21 15:50 |
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| sebsebseb | MinceR: seems the site I was trying to go onto earlier has been cracked into by the way, hence the redirect to a slightly odd page | Mar 21 18:31 |
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| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/67705778 | Mar 21 21:03 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @G. Forbes (goforbes28)'s status on Monday, 21-Mar-11 12:05:49 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz No problem. I saved the edit in the wiki yesterday. | Mar 21 21:03 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: Firefox 4 tommorow and I am not looking forward! | Mar 21 21:24 |
| schestowitz | It's not in repos, is it? | Mar 21 22:09 |
| schestowitz | Firefox has been crashing a lot for me this past week, I don't known why | Mar 21 22:09 |
| schestowitz | Usually it happens one a month, not once a day | Mar 21 22:09 |
| qu1j0t3 | heh | Mar 21 22:09 |
| schestowitz | You too? | Mar 21 22:37 |
| schestowitz | I was trying to think if they pushed a silence auto-update for security reasons | Mar 21 22:37 |
| schestowitz | But nothing I can think of... or noticed... it puts me off really. I already have chromium as fallback if Firefox makes me as furious as the bank made me today | Mar 21 22:38 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/49957201653141504 | Mar 21 22:41 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @FOSSpatents: @schestowitz Saw your article. I'm not "jubilant" about any patent infringement suit. I wonder which statement in my post makes you think so | Mar 21 22:41 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/ender2070/status/49960980221931520 | Mar 21 22:42 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @ender2070: @vioma @Enderle @FOSSpatents sounds like we got an #msft convention going down ;) /cc @schestowitz | Mar 21 22:42 |
| schestowitz | yes, they do tend to exchanged and share food idea, O'Gara and Ed Bought too | Mar 21 22:42 |
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| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: no, Ffx hasn't crashed on me much lately. | Mar 21 23:42 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: sure it's not Flash? | Mar 21 23:42 |
| schestowitz | Not likely given preceding activity | Mar 21 23:57 |
| schestowitz | Wordpress mostly | Mar 21 23:57 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/RealHPT/status/49982587829096449 | Mar 22 00:13 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @RealHPT: @schestowitz Yes, but step in right direction. Resistance due to legacy expectations, but newer generation adapts easily with an open mind. | Mar 22 00:13 |
| schestowitz | Exactly. | Mar 22 00:14 |
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| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: you can't escape, you know. :) ---------> http://walt.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2011/03/21/what_intervention_in_libya_tells_us_about_the_neocon_liberal_alliance?sms_ss=twitter&at_xt=4d8808790fb760f3,1 | Mar 22 02:28 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: What intervention in Libya tells us about the neocon-liberal alliance - By Stephen M. Walt | Stephen M. Walt .::. Size~: 100.18 KB | Mar 22 02:28 |
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| *Topic for #boycottnovell-social set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Fri May 7 00:20:14 2010 | Mar 22 03:12 | |
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| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/67777635 | Mar 22 07:43 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @qu1j0t3's status on Tuesday, 22-Mar-11 01:17:04 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz there's already a gnu tee ... or is that the joke? | Mar 22 07:43 |
| schestowitz | tim called goatee gnutee | Mar 22 07:43 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/67777706 | Mar 22 07:43 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @qu1j0t3's status on Tuesday, 22-Mar-11 01:17:53 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz I thought F/OSS people all hated Opera anyway? [new Groups also crashes Opera 10.x, but apparently Opera's bug; 10.x is flaky] | Mar 22 07:43 |
| schestowitz | decent broswer, but proprietary | Mar 22 07:43 |
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| *Topic for #boycottnovell-social set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Fri May 7 00:20:14 2010 | Mar 29 08:41 | |
| schestowitz | I'm back | Mar 29 08:54 |
| schestowitz | Finally. | Mar 29 08:54 |
| MinceR | wb | Mar 29 09:30 |
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| schestowitz | :-) | Mar 29 09:59 |
| schestowitz | Faster connection than before this one... | Mar 29 09:59 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/wazzer_bt/statuses/51553599796416512 | Mar 29 10:36 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Not a tweet? | Mar 29 10:36 |
| schestowitz | Here's my latest mail to them (FWIW, and for lying trolls to realise they just spread libel about it) | Mar 29 10:57 |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 29 10:57 |
| schestowitz | Thanks very much for pulling the strings needed to finally fix my line (I reported this to BT and they ignored it at first, despite insistence), subsequently for me to receive the call from the delivery company. I now have a hub and a working connection. | Mar 29 10:57 |
| schestowitz | Issues that remain up for discussion are: 1) compensation (esp. the for line deactivation which had me wait at home for 3 days, missing work on 2, not being able to communicate with anyone, having to travel to city to phone BT many times); 2) calls made by someone foreign to me on the wrongly-activated line (will I be charged for those?); 3) A delay (one week) in arrival of parcel & activation (caused mainly by (1)). | Mar 29 10:57 |
| schestowitz | I appreciate you rushing things as you competently did. But the weeks of hell since line deactivation is someone you seem to have promised to compensate for. | Mar 29 10:57 |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 29 10:57 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/67728437 | Mar 29 11:02 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @satipera (satipera)'s status on Monday, 21-Mar-11 16:22:58 UTC - Identi.ca: Just catching up with !techbytes 35. @openbytes says "In my opinion what MS has continually excelled with..." Great comic timing you got me. | Mar 29 11:02 |
| schestowitz | I'm back to IRC too... and logging it again | Mar 29 11:14 |
| schestowitz | I think we may have lost some stuff when tessier__ was down for a while | Mar 29 11:14 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/BTCare/status/52739426429845504 | Mar 29 15:39 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @BTCare: @schestowitz Sorry you had problems, good to see you got sorted in the end. If you need help in future feel free to tweet anytime | Mar 29 15:39 |
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| sebsebseb | Hi | Mar 29 16:52 |
| schestowitz | o/ | Mar 29 20:58 |
| schestowitz | Back to normal now... | Mar 29 20:58 |
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| schestowitz | There is this project called ISBA | Mar 29 23:15 |
| schestowitz | It tries to share Chinese knowledge about hardware manu' | Mar 29 23:15 |
| schestowitz | Here's some info and background to anyone who might want to contribute.... | Mar 29 23:15 |
| schestowitz | (21:47:55) anon: hi, are you really a doctor | Mar 29 23:15 |
| schestowitz | (21:48:20) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: yes, not GP type | Mar 29 23:15 |
| schestowitz | (21:48:30) anon: phd? | Mar 29 23:15 |
| schestowitz | (21:48:44) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: yes, medical biophysics | Mar 29 23:15 |
| schestowitz | (21:49:07) anon: Do you mind if I ask why are you working for XXXXX? | Mar 29 23:15 |
| schestowitz | (21:51:10) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: I do a lot of Linux stuff for ages now | Mar 29 23:15 |
| schestowitz | (21:51:43) anon: but how come your not make 250K with your phd? | Mar 29 23:15 |
| schestowitz | (21:51:49) anon: making* | Mar 29 23:15 |
| schestowitz | (21:52:01) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: phds are not big money | Mar 29 23:15 |
| schestowitz | (21:52:32) anon: are you sure? they make a lot in america. | Mar 29 23:15 |
| schestowitz | (21:54:02) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: Depends if working in research | Mar 29 23:15 |
| schestowitz | (21:54:25) anon: like if you go work for a drug company, you can easily make over 100k | Mar 29 23:15 |
| schestowitz | (21:55:00) anon: I have a friend from china that just got hired by google, they started him out at 85k | Mar 29 23:15 |
| schestowitz | (21:55:10) anon: and he doesnt even have a degree in computers | Mar 29 23:15 |
| schestowitz | (21:55:17) anon: he just worked for novell china | Mar 29 23:15 |
| schestowitz | (21:56:00) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: Google tried to hire me a few times | Mar 29 23:16 |
| schestowitz | (21:56:14) anon: how much did they offer you? | Mar 29 23:16 |
| schestowitz | (21:57:19) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: Don't know, they didn't say | Mar 29 23:16 |
| schestowitz | (21:57:27) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: But it's not the right dilemma | Mar 29 23:16 |
| schestowitz | (21:57:38) anon: Why didnt you want to work for google? | Mar 29 23:16 |
| schestowitz | (21:57:43) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: THe question is, do you aspire to do something you enjoy or something that pays more than you need?| | Mar 29 23:16 |
| schestowitz | (21:58:17) anon: then I got to ask the question why did you go for that phd? | Mar 29 23:16 |
| schestowitz | (22:00:21) anon: sorry to bother you | Mar 29 23:16 |
| schestowitz | (22:00:35) anon: we can pick up this conversation later if your not in the mood for it | Mar 29 23:16 |
| schestowitz | (22:03:05) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: The phd is for my research side | Mar 29 23:16 |
| schestowitz | (22:03:32) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: I mix different fields for personal reasons and it's complementary | Mar 29 23:16 |
| schestowitz | (22:04:26) anon: You know you would never make it in china, the only way we have to gauge people is by the amount of money you make. | Mar 29 23:16 |
| schestowitz | (22:06:11) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: I didn't know that | Mar 29 23:16 |
| schestowitz | (22:06:35) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: But it's similar in the West, although some parts of society think beyond this idiocy | Mar 29 23:16 |
| schestowitz | (22:06:59) anon: In college everything is about the score you get. out of school its just about the money you make. their is no room for personal creativity | Mar 29 23:16 |
| schestowitz | (22:07:48) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: Yes, that's a shame. I don't want to be a semi-detached cogwheel just to accrue some numbers] | Mar 29 23:16 |
| schestowitz | (22:08:33) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: Some people live like this and die unhappy, they can't take their money anywhere when they die and their life sort of died man years ago when they decided to go for wage slavery over passion | Mar 29 23:16 |
| schestowitz | (22:09:06) anon: You should learn more about china. | Mar 29 23:16 |
| schestowitz | (22:10:32) anon: if your not a slave to your wages, your just a slave | Mar 29 23:16 |
| schestowitz | (22:10:43) anon: their is no room for personal freedom for the majority of people | Mar 29 23:16 |
| schestowitz | (22:10:57) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: Sounds like what I head in the context of North Korea | Mar 29 23:16 |
| schestowitz | (22:11:11) anon: in north korea your just a slave period | Mar 29 23:16 |
| schestowitz | (22:11:11) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: But the comparison is uncanny and quite inappropriate | Mar 29 23:16 |
| schestowitz | (22:11:21) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: People without differentiators are machines | Mar 29 23:16 |
| schestowitz | (22:11:39) anon: in china, as long as you dont care about politics you are free | Mar 29 23:16 |
| schestowitz | (22:11:53) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: I had a CHinese girlfriend who was ambitious | Mar 29 23:16 |
| schestowitz | (22:11:56) anon: and money is the only way you can increase the comfort of your life | Mar 29 23:16 |
| schestowitz | (22:12:07) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: I didn't understand some parts of her culture | Mar 29 23:16 |
| schestowitz | (22:13:06) anon: They are ambitious without ambition | Mar 29 23:16 |
| schestowitz | (22:13:18) anon: its their parents pushing them and they dont know what they want | Mar 29 23:16 |
| schestowitz | (22:14:24) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: aYes | Mar 29 23:16 |
| schestowitz | (22:14:39) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: THe parents' pressure is what I learned from the BBC's programme on CHina | Mar 29 23:16 |
| schestowitz | (22:14:53) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: Idiotic parents | Mar 29 23:16 |
| schestowitz | (22:14:56) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: But it's a cycle | Mar 29 23:16 |
| schestowitz | (22:15:11) anon: why dont you go take your sabbatical in china and india, and you can learn more about foreign culture | Mar 29 23:19 |
| schestowitz | (22:15:21) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: They replicate their own idiocy (unreasonable for human soul) and pass it on down the generations to mechanise everything | Mar 29 23:19 |
| schestowitz | (22:15:51) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: I thought about it last year, but I enjoy it here and I have plenty of leeway | Mar 29 23:19 |
| schestowitz | (22:16:21) anon: well you will never learn from afar, the japanese have a saying. go see than decide. | Mar 29 23:19 |
| schestowitz | (22:16:31) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: I can't offer china much in terms of contribution, I'd only get in trouble for speaking out about their regime | Mar 29 23:19 |
| schestowitz | (22:17:37) anon: Why don't you worry about countries that are far worse. at least china is making a serious effort to improve the quality of life for its people | Mar 29 23:19 |
| schestowitz | (22:18:11) anon: Your country wants to punish the rich for being hard working and reward the poor for being lazy. | Mar 29 23:19 |
| schestowitz | (22:19:38) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: I think it's the opposite | Mar 29 23:19 |
| schestowitz | (22:19:54) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: It seems as though the country tries to blame the poor for being poor | Mar 29 23:19 |
| schestowitz | (22:20:07) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: And pass all welfare of substance to those not in need of any | Mar 29 23:19 |
| schestowitz | (22:20:25) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: And BTW, I do try to help many in impoverished countries | Mar 29 23:19 |
| schestowitz | (22:20:31) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: See my identica/twitter account | Mar 29 23:19 |
| schestowitz | (22:20:49) anon: sending money doesnt help. that just lets people rip you off. | Mar 29 23:19 |
| schestowitz | (22:20:57) anon: if you want to help you need to get your hands dirty | Mar 29 23:19 |
| schestowitz | (22:21:06) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: See how I contribute, I agree with you on that | Mar 29 23:19 |
| schestowitz | (22:21:22) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: I help by exposing the exploitation and educating the exploited | Mar 29 23:19 |
| schestowitz | (22:21:31) anon: that doesnt work | Mar 29 23:19 |
| schestowitz | (22:21:45) anon: because that only last for 5 minutes, try focusing on one person | Mar 29 23:19 |
| schestowitz | (22:21:55) anon: then you will have a much longer lasting effect on the world | Mar 29 23:19 |
| schestowitz | (22:22:17) anon: my friends parents would adopt children and help the boat children from vietnam get settled in america | Mar 29 23:19 |
| schestowitz | (22:22:49) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: I do develop relationships with people | Mar 29 23:19 |
| schestowitz | (22:22:52) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: It takes longer | Mar 29 23:19 |
| schestowitz | (22:23:16) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: As I have insinuated, I think you misjudge what I am doing a lot of my time | Mar 29 23:19 |
| schestowitz | (22:23:48) anon: Well I don't know, but for the most part I believe its every man for him self. | Mar 29 23:19 |
| schestowitz | (22:24:11) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: p, li { white-space: pre-wrap; } What I do does in fact require confronting many conformists | Mar 29 23:20 |
| schestowitz | (22:24:43) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: For money != for oneself | Mar 29 23:20 |
| schestowitz | (22:24:49) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: These are not analogous | Mar 29 23:20 |
| schestowitz | (22:24:56) anon: Everyone has the right to their own opinion. trying to change their opinion is as bad as them trying to change yours. | Mar 29 23:20 |
| schestowitz | (22:25:27) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: Opposing, contrary opinions are needed | Mar 29 23:20 |
| schestowitz | (22:25:38) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: Propaganda line typically favours those in power | Mar 29 23:20 |
| schestowitz | (22:25:48) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: Lacking dissent, those in power control all minds | Mar 29 23:20 |
| schestowitz | (22:27:11) anon: You should join a charity project in India. That would allow you to learn a new culture and get your hands dirty. | Mar 29 23:20 |
| schestowitz | (22:28:11) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: I create my own projects for such purposes whose actions take place in other places | Mar 29 23:20 |
| schestowitz | (22:28:27) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: Reforms regarding issues such as patent monopolies, abuse of copyrights, DRM, etc. | Mar 29 23:20 |
| schestowitz | (22:28:40) anon: You can join my project, www.isba.org.in | Mar 29 23:20 |
| schestowitz | (22:29:02) anon: I want to teach indians how to build shanzhai | Mar 29 23:20 |
| schestowitz | (22:30:29) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: Nice project | Mar 29 23:20 |
| schestowitz | (22:30:49) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: Perhaps we can join forces in some level and extend each others' reach | Mar 29 23:20 |
| schestowitz | (22:31:02) anon: yeah, I am going to write out my 5 years of manufacturing experience | Mar 29 23:20 |
| schestowitz | (22:31:49) anon: I dont know about that, I just want to teach the indians how to manufacture cheap electronics | Mar 29 23:20 |
| schestowitz | (22:32:48) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: They do mostly s/w these days | Mar 29 23:20 |
| schestowitz | (22:33:01) anon: well they should be doing hardware | Mar 29 23:20 |
| schestowitz | (22:33:07) anon: chinese have the opposite problem | Mar 29 23:20 |
| schestowitz | (22:33:13) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: BRIC has China doing a lot of rare earth, ewaste, heavy manufacuring | Mar 29 23:20 |
| schestowitz | (22:33:15) anon: they only do hardware and not much software | Mar 29 23:20 |
| schestowitz | (22:33:39) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: I'll tell you what... | Mar 29 23:20 |
| schestowitz | (22:33:53) anon: Well I would like you to tell me how you pictured your cell phone being manufactured and I can tell you if it is true or not? | Mar 29 23:26 |
| schestowitz | (22:34:21) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: I'll speak to people who are involved in http://techrights.org/wiki/ (a project I run) and see if they can add | Mar 29 23:26 |
| schestowitz | (22:35:14) anon: well i was talking to a drupal friend of mine, he said I need to do 2 things at first to get a drupal site going. first create the news content, secondly create a good theme | Mar 29 23:26 |
| schestowitz | (22:36:05) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: yes, that's true | Mar 29 23:26 |
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| schestowitz | (22:37:06) anon: Since writing is not my strong suite. I need an editor. And Ive been trying to find somebody that is good at druapl theming that will work cheap. | Mar 29 23:26 |
| schestowitz | (22:37:55) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: I have my hands full with techrights | Mar 29 23:26 |
| schestowitz | (22:38:08) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: But if we can share content, we can thenco-edit | Mar 29 23:26 |
| schestowitz | (22:39:11) anon: I don't know about sharing content, because the only way indians will even thing about making hardware is if they can make money off it. I don't suppose you would want to be associated with a for profit website? | Mar 29 23:26 |
| schestowitz | (22:40:11) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: I don't run any for-profit site | Mar 29 23:26 |
| schestowitz | (22:40:19) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: I share what I know freely | Mar 29 23:26 |
| schestowitz | (22:40:26) anon: Isba will cater to for profit people | Mar 29 23:26 |
| schestowitz | (22:40:35) anon: i wont make any money from it | Mar 29 23:26 |
| schestowitz | (22:40:57) anon: but the people using the site will want to start their own business's | Mar 29 23:26 |
| schestowitz | (22:41:09) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: What about patents? | Mar 29 23:26 |
| schestowitz | (22:41:13) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: You need to fight those too | Mar 29 23:26 |
| schestowitz | (22:41:17) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: As we do | Mar 29 23:26 |
| schestowitz | (22:41:24) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: Patents limit sharing, by design | Mar 29 23:26 |
| schestowitz | (22:41:30) anon: they dont recognize foreign patents in india and china | Mar 29 23:26 |
| schestowitz | (22:41:40) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: Do you know ACTA? | Mar 29 23:26 |
| schestowitz | (22:41:46) anon: No | Mar 29 23:26 |
| schestowitz | (22:41:47) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: And trans-atlantic treaties? | Mar 29 23:26 |
| schestowitz | (22:41:49) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: I leaked some | Mar 29 23:26 |
| schestowitz | (22:42:02) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: The US is trying to bribe the right people to push those patents into BRIC | Mar 29 23:26 |
| schestowitz | (22:42:29) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: Policy from the back door to stomp on developing nation is a field I'm more well-versed in | Mar 29 23:26 |
| schestowitz | (22:43:24) anon: you need to understand this, in china and india, piracy is such a big part of the economies the governments go out the way to support it. | Mar 29 23:26 |
| schestowitz | (22:43:53) anon: out of their way* | Mar 29 23:26 |
| schestowitz | (22:44:03) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: India is now targeted for fabs too | Mar 29 23:26 |
| schestowitz | (22:44:14) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: My in-law goes there to teach them soon | Mar 29 23:26 |
| schestowitz | (22:44:24) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: But Intel is a patent bully | Mar 29 23:26 |
| schestowitz | (22:44:26) anon: Teach about what? | Mar 29 23:27 |
| schestowitz | (22:44:26) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: Like nvidia | Mar 29 23:27 |
| schestowitz | (22:44:42) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: how to design the chips (not fabs only) | Mar 29 23:27 |
| schestowitz | (22:45:01) anon: ok, why does that matter when everyone is using arm and mips? | Mar 29 23:27 |
| schestowitz | (22:45:11) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: It's not "piravcy" BTW, it's sharing | Mar 29 23:27 |
| schestowitz | (22:45:17) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: Somalia has piracy | Mar 29 23:27 |
| schestowitz | (22:45:31) anon: Yeah Stallman said that to me too | Mar 29 23:27 |
| schestowitz | (22:45:46) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: Western propaganda calls that piracy | Mar 29 23:27 |
| schestowitz | (22:46:16) anon: in fact chinese people dont understand the difference between windows and linux | Mar 29 23:27 |
| schestowitz | (22:46:25) anon: they think they are both equally free | Mar 29 23:27 |
| schestowitz | (22:46:33) anon: also chinese value secrets more | Mar 29 23:27 |
| schestowitz | (22:46:45) anon: so if something is open source, they think something is wrong with it | Mar 29 23:27 |
| schestowitz | (23:13:16) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: I'll see if I can get people interested in ISBA... | Mar 29 23:27 |
| schestowitz | (23:13:36) anon: thank you, that would be nice | Mar 29 23:27 |
| schestowitz | (23:13:49) anon: I am willing to give up a lot of chinese secrets | Mar 29 23:27 |
| schestowitz | So there, if you want to get involved, you have the address | Mar 29 23:27 |
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| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/1LNfo.jpg | Mar 30 12:04 |
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| schestowitz | Do you know people named that? | Mar 30 12:29 |
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| MinceR | i don't | Mar 30 12:32 |
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| schestowitz | Maybe Joshua | Mar 30 12:35 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUlxzgRaR-g | Mar 30 14:15 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: https://identi.ca/notice/68606425 | Mar 30 14:25 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @Gordon Sinclair (thistleweb)'s status on Wednesday, 30-Mar-11 11:57:41 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz promoting m0n0? shame on you lol | Mar 30 14:25 |
| schestowitz | maybe a new name for mono? | Mar 30 14:26 |
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| schestowitz | m0n0 | Mar 30 14:31 |
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| sebsebseb | Hi | Mar 31 17:36 |
| qubitar | hi sebsebseb | Mar 31 18:21 |
| sebsebseb | qubitar: hi | Mar 31 18:22 |
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| sebsebseb | gnufreex: why not in the other channel oh and http://www.itwire.com/opinion-and-analysis/open-sauce/46242-linux-kernel-to-be-released-under-bsd-licence | Mar 31 19:24 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @: | Mar 31 19:24 |
| sebsebseb | http://www.itwire.com/opinion-and-analysis/open-sauce/46242-linux-kernel-to-be-released-under-bsd-licence | Mar 31 19:24 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @: | Mar 31 19:24 |
| gnufreex | sebsebseb: April's fool | Mar 31 19:27 |
| sebsebseb | gnufreex: yep | Mar 31 19:28 |
| sebsebseb | great article though | Mar 31 19:28 |
| gnufreex | sebsebseb: It is April in Australia | Mar 31 19:28 |
| gnufreex | And Japan | Mar 31 19:28 |
| gnufreex | I think | Mar 31 19:28 |
| sebsebseb | yep places like that | Mar 31 19:28 |
| sebsebseb | that site though is hosted in USA according to my Firefox add on | Mar 31 19:28 |
| qubitar | By Sam Varghese | Mar 31 20:02 |
| qubitar | Friday, 01 April 2011 00:47 | Mar 31 20:02 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QS0q3mGPGg | Apr 01 13:57 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQRG-xsw3kM | Apr 01 14:22 |
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| schestowitz | LOL Chuck Norris ... silly goose | Apr 01 14:22 |
| MinceR | chuck norris sucks | Apr 01 14:23 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/70200847 | Apr 01 14:29 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @Kev Macphail (kevie)'s status on Friday, 01-Apr-11 13:23:29 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz I tried the recent foresight release, but it wasn't as cutting edge as I expected from their blurb on the website | Apr 01 14:29 |
| schestowitz | I didn't think it was even maintained anymore (people whom I know that coded for it are quiet online) | Apr 01 14:30 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Security/Samsung-Installs-Stealthy-KeyLogger-on-Brand-New-Laptops-265944/ http://news.cnet.com/8301-27080_3-20048896-245.html | Apr 01 19:05 |
| schestowitz | mistake from CNYET | Apr 01 19:05 |
| schestowitz | IDG's Mac fan who pretends to like open source joins Mac Asay and that criticism of Red Hat http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/72647 | Apr 01 19:08 |
| schestowitz | TR server has been down for hours BTW | Apr 01 19:08 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uILsSniSPVc | Apr 01 20:21 |
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| MinceR | schestowitz: can you stop Ender2070's crapflood? | Apr 01 20:39 |
| schestowitz | Let me catch up | Apr 01 20:44 |
| schestowitz | We had major downtime | Apr 01 20:44 |
| schestowitz | So I wasn't looking | Apr 01 20:44 |
| schestowitz | WTH? | Apr 01 20:44 |
| schestowitz | What's he doing?! | Apr 01 20:45 |
| MinceR | he's switching from one lame troll tactic to the next, that's what | Apr 01 20:45 |
| schestowitz | Maybe he tries quitting smoking again :0) | Apr 01 20:49 |
| schestowitz | He has "moods" | Apr 01 20:49 |
| MinceR | doesn't really matter | Apr 01 20:49 |
| MinceR | there are plenty of people who don't have "moods" that make them write blog posts where they call the FSF "communists" or that make them crapflood the TR channels | Apr 01 20:50 |
| MinceR | or that call people "morons" because they dared to point out that their latest favorite toy language lacks essential features | Apr 01 20:51 |
| schestowitz | Ender2070: you're not a troll, but why did you paste all that stuff, I don't get it | Apr 01 20:51 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: you code, I code, I'm not sure some others who talk about P/Ls do.. | Apr 01 20:52 |
| Ender2070 | actually it was incompitence on my end | Apr 01 20:52 |
| Ender2070 | irssi is not my forte | Apr 01 20:52 |
| Ender2070 | didnt look like anything was pasting | Apr 01 20:52 |
| MinceR | strange, on my end irssi does show the lines i've pasted | Apr 01 20:53 |
| MinceR | it even asks if i want to paste at all if it's at least 5 lines or so | Apr 01 20:53 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: ah, OK, then just accidental | Apr 01 20:53 |
| MinceR | i'm not buying it | Apr 01 20:54 |
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| schestowitz | OK, I think we'll get back to doing techbytes a lot more often | Apr 02 12:11 |
| schestowitz | "When will you be able to come to the IRC channel? If you are around, let me know... I got wired!!! :-) We ought to record several times per week like we used to; many people listen and I can upload fast (no need for show notes if you're not in the mood for them)." | Apr 02 12:11 |
| schestowitz | LOL http://twitter.com/#!/SchestowitzLies | Apr 02 13:39 |
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| schestowitz | Obsessed | Apr 02 13:39 |
| schestowitz | Today I resume work (recess since Monday) | Apr 02 14:44 |
| schestowitz | Code that was sent to me last week was intercepted by E-mail filters on the face of it. | Apr 02 14:47 |
| schestowitz | That's why I hate relying on E-mail again... | Apr 02 14:47 |
| schestowitz | I can't believe that even 2 days ago the Microsoft trolls were *Still* libelling me in order to get attention http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/browse_frm/thread/63358e7aa38fa49e# Even when I'm away they lie. In London I had a meeting, this month it'll be in Wales. I was there for a couple of days, nothing special to report. BT resolved it all on Tuesday, parcel shipping delay.. | Apr 02 16:08 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: comp.os.linux.advocacy | Google Groups .::. Size~: 40.12 KB | Apr 02 16:08 |
| schestowitz | They create some fake story about me being disconnected or hosting from home or something. | Apr 02 16:09 |
| schestowitz | A few months ago they were spreading similar lies about my research grants when in fact everything is fine and ERC is funding me until 2012 or later. | Apr 02 16:10 |
| schestowitz | I will work with them for a considerable time to come. | Apr 02 16:11 |
| schestowitz | But the trolls try to lie and cause trouble, as usual | Apr 02 16:11 |
| schestowitz | They still start a thread about me several times per week, even though I haven't posted there since last year. And they call *others* "sick" | Apr 02 16:16 |
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| schestowitz | " | Apr 02 16:16 |
| schestowitz | He is very afraid of a flying chair if he and his sock puppets cannot | Apr 02 16:16 |
| schestowitz | totally discredit Roy. | Apr 02 16:16 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 02 16:16 |
| schestowitz | http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/browse_frm/thread/bef1bdab2262c4f6#+ | Apr 02 16:16 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: comp.os.linux.advocacy | Google Groups .::. Size~: 40.12 KB | Apr 02 16:16 |
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| abeNd-org | http://lisnews.org/save_america_close_your_library | Apr 02 22:11 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Save America. Close Your Library. | LISNews: .::. Size~: 18.76 KB | Apr 02 22:11 |
| MinceR | :D | Apr 02 22:14 |
| schestowitz | "So stop supporting international terrorism. Let your library know how much you love freedom by forcing it to close its doors, for good. For America." | Apr 02 22:33 |
| abeNd-org | it is an april fools post, but still pretty scary | Apr 02 22:35 |
| MinceR | we're living in a scary place | Apr 02 22:38 |
| schestowitz | US libraries are being hijacked by the same prick who takes over schools to indoctrinate the public one way | Apr 02 22:38 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: come to Manchester | Apr 02 22:38 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22aY1bgbXI8 | Apr 02 22:39 |
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| abeNd-org | yea, a lot of US libraries are going "commercial" | Apr 02 22:40 |
| abeNd-org | : | Apr 02 22:40 |
| abeNd-org | Library Systems & Services, LLC (LSSI) | Apr 02 22:43 |
| schestowitz | real?! | Apr 02 22:43 |
| abeNd-org | like a local one recently https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:-P2Qb2c-X4EJ:www.lssi.com/news/Farmers%2520Branch%252011%252017%25202010.pdf+&hl=en&gl=us&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESgwA8RBuAjzX9DtpGa2oeWpqK3JN2aOoG43dG5RdBS1k9xGuSIuGYFcH1sWo0gHowQD6oF2CIJ_cRAyTzPo0hP61u_Nzr42-yb6yIOkWLwpQPhu8AE-LZZThVcxnPjZAeaQ-Ysf&sig=AHIEtbTFRvdoNafodfBzygtcWlcbRJmOlA&pli=1 | Apr 02 22:43 |
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| abeNd-org | they fired everyone there | Apr 02 22:44 |
| schestowitz | :-( | Apr 02 22:44 |
| schestowitz | I was gonna say LOL before you mentioned layoffs | Apr 02 22:44 |
| schestowitz | Everything becomes a business | Apr 02 22:44 |
| schestowitz | US healthcare | Apr 02 22:44 |
| schestowitz | USPTO... | Apr 02 22:44 |
| schestowitz | FDA... | Apr 02 22:44 |
| schestowitz | Business will solve all the world's problem :-) | Apr 02 22:44 |
| schestowitz | *ms | Apr 02 22:44 |
| schestowitz | Profit motive.. ask Fiedman about how the invisible hands will protect us :-) | Apr 02 22:44 |
| schestowitz | *Fied | Apr 02 22:45 |
| schestowitz | *Fried | Apr 02 22:45 |
| schestowitz | Meh | Apr 02 22:45 |
| schestowitz | Can't type on this sofa... | Apr 02 22:45 |
| abeNd-org | & then rehired people at burger flipping salaries, no requirement for MLS (Master of Library Science), etc | Apr 02 22:45 |
| MinceR | try typing on a keyboard instead ;) | Apr 02 22:45 |
| schestowitz | But at least they feel overqualified | Apr 02 22:45 |
| abeNd-org | no, most didnt bother going back | Apr 02 22:45 |
| schestowitz | A Polish friend of mine is being fired from a job where he over-performed | Apr 02 22:45 |
| schestowitz | He is a personal trainer and they require that he only writes shoddy programmes for n00bs | Apr 02 22:46 |
| schestowitz | Because he is actually a fitness expert they let him go.. | Apr 02 22:46 |
| schestowitz | abeNd-org: it's not about qualifications these days but about connections | Apr 02 22:46 |
| schestowitz | Like parents, which private college you go to, how many financial barriers for some papers you can get past... I watched a show (which is rare) the other day in London and it showed how extreme this is in here | Apr 02 22:47 |
| schestowitz | But the US seems worse in that regard because college is vastly more expensive | Apr 02 22:48 |
| schestowitz | That said, in the UK the govt. stops supporting students, too, tripling many students' debt | Apr 02 22:48 |
| abeNd-org | funny that you are supposed to be educated, but for most folks to be educated you have to put yourself so far into debt that you probably will never see the light of day | Apr 02 22:50 |
| abeNd-org | if they do actually start shutting down public libraries like they have been, or at least commercializing them & charging (beyond usual taxes) for them, will colleges start barring visitors from using collegiate libraries? | Apr 02 22:52 |
| schestowitz | !google lancelot | Apr 02 23:01 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | [1] - Lancelot - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lancelot | Apr 02 23:01 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | [2] - Lancelot | http://www.pantheon.org/articles/l/lancelot.html | Apr 02 23:01 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | [3] - Sir Lancelot (Sir Launcelot) of the court of King Arthur | http://www.sir-lancelot.co.uk/ | Apr 02 23:01 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | [4] - LANCELOT: TEXTS, IMAGES, BASIC INFORMATION | http://www.lib.rochester.edu/camelot/lanmenu.htm | Apr 02 23:01 |
| schestowitz | Great stuff | Apr 02 23:01 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/directhex/statuses/54296008703746051 | Apr 03 07:59 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @directhex: Techrights isn't just the kind o site that posts its April 1st story on March 31st. It also links the GNOME 3 delay story as true on April 2 | Apr 03 07:59 |
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| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/70305386 | Apr 03 09:59 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @George Hostler (ghostler)'s status on Sunday, 03-Apr-11 08:39:01 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz #Google #humility #algorithm http://ur1.ca/3qzxx I have left a comment, this is more wicked than #Microsoft #Evangelism doc. | Apr 03 09:59 |
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| schestowitz | @fabsh is reaching 50,000 dents today http://macno.org/denticator/?user=schestowitz&service=identi.ca&chart=flash | Apr 03 10:04 |
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| schestowitz | Useless results on Google... http://www.google.com/search?hl=&q=matlab+find+nose&sourceid=navclient-ff&rlz=1B5GGGL_enGB315GB316&ie=UTF-8#sclient=psy&hl=en&c2coff=1&rlz=1B5GGGL_enGB315GB316&source=hp&q=matlab+find+nose+3d&aq=f&aqi=&aql=f&oq=&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=c99decee79d1fe4a | Apr 03 10:26 |
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| schestowitz | At least in my case the libel against me is hardly visible in Google | Apr 03 10:26 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOF07IlF6Lw | Apr 03 10:43 |
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| schestowitz | re http://identi.ca/notice/70320032 - well, maybe this just shows that staying wiith one's name offline is now the best strategy | Apr 03 15:38 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @George Hostler (ghostler)'s status on Sunday, 03-Apr-11 14:36:14 UTC - Identi.ca: @themadhatter @schestowitz BTW Search on my name and you'll see what I mean - #"Google Humility Algorithm" really sucks, http://ur1.ca/3r2h2 | Apr 03 15:38 |
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| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/70320214 | Apr 03 15:42 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @George Hostler (ghostler)'s status on Sunday, 03-Apr-11 14:39:57 UTC - Identi.ca: @themadhatter @schestowitz I just wanted to add, even #Bing doesn't do what #Google does, their search engine is a libellous worthless work. | Apr 03 15:42 |
| schestowitz | That's because they pick from marginal forums | Apr 03 15:42 |
| schestowitz | And Bong doesn't go far enough | Apr 03 15:43 |
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| MinceR | http://pics.kuvaton.com/kuvei/angry_nerds.jpg | Apr 04 13:24 |
| roy_ | I posted something similar earlier | Apr 04 14:01 |
| roy_ | I didn't see it in context | Apr 04 14:01 |
| *roy_ is now known as schestowitz | Apr 04 14:01 | |
| schestowitz | > My Doctor Roy, | Apr 04 14:05 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 04 14:05 |
| schestowitz | > I can't believe it. Six years flew by. Anyway, but with all my | Apr 04 14:05 |
| schestowitz | > appreciation, here it goes: | Apr 04 14:05 |
| schestowitz | Yes, we're turning 5 soon. We should arrange a techrights party of sorts. | Apr 04 14:05 |
| schestowitz | http://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2011-04-03-007-39-OP-MS-SW-0000 | Apr 04 14:08 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 04 14:08 |
| schestowitz | While this is still Schestowitz' heavy 'emotionalized' | Apr 04 14:08 |
| schestowitz | style, this is by far the best text authored by him I | Apr 04 14:08 |
| schestowitz | have read until now. As I wrote in the past: The patent | Apr 04 14:08 |
| schestowitz | situation in the USA is basically such that you either | Apr 04 14:08 |
| schestowitz | buy a Microsoft software license in order to be allowed | Apr 04 14:08 |
| schestowitz | to use Microsoft software or a Microsoft patent license | Apr 04 14:08 |
| schestowitz | in order to be allowed to use software you've developed | Apr 04 14:08 |
| schestowitz | (in part) yourself. And this doesn't solely apply to | Apr 04 14:08 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft but to each major or even just medium-sized | Apr 04 14:08 |
| schestowitz | US-based 'IT company' and to a lot of 'businesses' | Apr 04 14:08 |
| schestowitz | whose business is buying patents from dead startups | Apr 04 14:08 |
| schestowitz | and use these to 'participiate' risklessly in the | Apr 04 14:08 |
| schestowitz | 'sunny' parts of other companies which actually | Apr 04 14:08 |
| schestowitz | develop and produce something, meaning, they get a | Apr 04 14:08 |
| schestowitz | share of the money (or alternatively, destroy the | Apr 04 14:08 |
| schestowitz | product) in exchange for exactly nothing. I've tried | Apr 04 14:08 |
| schestowitz | to read through a couple of software patents in the | Apr 04 14:08 |
| schestowitz | past and as technical documentation of 'inventions', | Apr 04 14:08 |
| schestowitz | these are completely useless: You basically need a | Apr 04 14:08 |
| schestowitz | patent lawyer in order to figure out what the patented | Apr 04 14:08 |
| schestowitz | invention actually is and the only relevant pieces, | Apr 04 14:09 |
| schestowitz | meaning, the code and associated documents, are | Apr 04 14:09 |
| schestowitz | missing, anyway. The hard part of 'software | Apr 04 14:09 |
| schestowitz | development' is not 'coming up with ideas' but turning | Apr 04 14:09 |
| schestowitz | these ideas into actually working code. | Apr 04 14:09 |
| schestowitz | . | Apr 04 14:09 |
| schestowitz | Thanks to the magnificient USPTO, software development | Apr 04 14:09 |
| schestowitz | in the USA or for the US market is essentially illegal | Apr 04 14:09 |
| schestowitz | and the sole 'public benefit' gained in exchange for | Apr 04 14:09 |
| schestowitz | that is ... the USPTO itself. | Apr 04 14:09 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 04 14:09 |
| schestowitz | let's see if he is willing to go public... "As a tribute to your major role in the site, I think we ought to do a profile page about you, either static or an article, wherein we explain how you found Free software and how you run parts of the site. This page can then be added to the Spanish portal and make people connect to you also at a personal level (alongside your work portfolio)." | Apr 04 14:14 |
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| schestowitz | > I will write something about me during the course of the week and as | Apr 04 17:57 |
| schestowitz | > soon as I have it ready email it to you. | Apr 04 17:57 |
| schestowitz | That would be nice | Apr 04 17:58 |
| schestowitz | > I wish I could be there. God willing someday my friend! Thanks | Apr 04 17:58 |
| schestowitz | I want to travel to south America one day. I just don't travel much anymore. | Apr 04 17:58 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/humphreybc/statuses/54884676451581953 | Apr 04 17:59 |
| schestowitz | me: "thanks. We try ;-)" | Apr 04 18:00 |
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| sebsebseb | hi | Apr 04 18:02 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: hi | Apr 04 18:02 |
| qu1j0t3 | sebsebseb: hi | Apr 04 18:02 |
| sebsebseb | qu1j0t3: hi | Apr 04 18:02 |
| schestowitz | [18:08] <GoForbes28> "it originate from and depends upon" should be "originates" | Apr 04 18:11 |
| schestowitz | fixed | Apr 04 18:11 |
| schestowitz | It's nice we are now crowdsourcing | Apr 04 18:12 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: I am thinking about maybe trying Ubuntu 11.04 out on here replaceing PC Linux OS with it, soon after release | Apr 04 18:13 |
| sebsebseb | a few days after release or something | Apr 04 18:13 |
| schestowitz | Maybe | Apr 04 18:17 |
| schestowitz | What about ubunity? | Apr 04 18:17 |
| schestowitz | It's all different by default now | Apr 04 18:17 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: also going to try the Fedora Gnome Shell Live CD later I guess | Apr 04 18:18 |
| sebsebseb | latest one you know | Apr 04 18:18 |
| sebsebseb | before final comes out very soon | Apr 04 18:18 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: yes there will be stuff in Ubuntu 11.04 I won't like, but can remove or ignore that like before | Apr 04 18:20 |
| sebsebseb | Ubuntu One | Apr 04 18:20 |
| sebsebseb | for example | Apr 04 18:20 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: also it's not like Firefox 4 will be going around telling websites I am running Ubuntu :D | Apr 04 18:20 |
| sebsebseb | it will just say Linux | Apr 04 18:20 |
| sebsebseb | and I have done every release of Ubuntu since the second release in 2005, on real hardware, so why not 11.04 as well? | Apr 04 18:20 |
| sebsebseb | plus I think to try out Unity properly need to do so on real hardware really | Apr 04 18:21 |
| schestowitz | yeah, I see what you mean.. | Apr 04 18:22 |
| schestowitz | Geez, you type so fast | Apr 04 18:22 |
| schestowitz | I can't even read that fast | Apr 04 18:22 |
| sebsebseb | that wasn't even my fastest :D | Apr 04 18:22 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: I'll be idleing in the big Ubuntu channel and such, when 11.04 comes out, the plan is to hardly ever type there though, which means yep I don't want to do support in there | Apr 04 18:23 |
| sebsebseb | ,but I may end up doing a little | Apr 04 18:23 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: and no I don't think I will be recommending Unity or not in Ubuntu anyway to anyone :D | Apr 04 18:23 |
| sebsebseb | from a technical perspective, Unity is hmm, the copyright assignments, Canonical not really playing upstream properly with it and that kind of thing | Apr 04 18:24 |
| sebsebseb | from a user perspective, well it's another software choice, and something that can be used to compete against Windows and Mac OS X as well | Apr 04 18:25 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: also at the moment Unity will be able to do quite a lot more than Gnome Shell really | Apr 04 18:25 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: read http://www.itworld.com/open-source/142340/biggest-legal-danger-open-source | Apr 04 18:26 |
| schestowitz | it's new | Apr 04 18:26 |
| schestowitz | about ubuntu too | Apr 04 18:26 |
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| sebsebseb | plus I easilly have Gnome 2 when I want it with 11.04 as well, if I do this | Apr 04 18:26 |
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| sebsebseb | altough yeah with the Canonical patches, unless I remove those, but well I already tried the fall back for 11.04 in vm, and it's ok | Apr 04 18:27 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: plus I got certain issues with PC Linux OS that annoy me now | Apr 04 18:27 |
| sebsebseb | not being able to play OGG always for example, and I guess MP3 as well, some weird issue | Apr 04 18:28 |
| sebsebseb | listening to techbytes episode 29 right now | Apr 04 18:28 |
| sebsebseb | by the way | Apr 04 18:28 |
| sebsebseb | yep I am behind still | Apr 04 18:28 |
| sebsebseb | by quite a bit | Apr 04 18:28 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: I guess if you weren't changing ISP, that techbytes may have been on like episode 40 by now | Apr 04 18:28 |
| sebsebseb | rather than 35, which I think is the latest? | Apr 04 18:29 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: maybe | Apr 04 18:29 |
| schestowitz | It's also up to Tom | Apr 04 18:29 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: kapman lags a lot in PC Linux OS which annoys me. and these choqok issues ah! | Apr 04 18:29 |
| schestowitz | Tim | Apr 04 18:29 |
| schestowitz | I want to do the show 3 times a week | Apr 04 18:29 |
| sebsebseb | oh 3 a week | Apr 04 18:30 |
| schestowitz | But he has too little time, I suggested we record immediately without show notes | Apr 04 18:30 |
| schestowitz | AHHH | Apr 04 18:30 |
| schestowitz | choqok | Apr 04 18:30 |
| schestowitz | Drove me NUTS today | Apr 04 18:30 |
| schestowitz | Arrrrrrrrrrrrrgh | Apr 04 18:30 |
| sebsebseb | How so? | Apr 04 18:30 |
| schestowitz | Memroty and crashes | Apr 04 18:30 |
| sebsebseb | it's a nice client when it works properly, but had major issues with it with PC Linux OS :( | Apr 04 18:30 |
| schestowitz | yes, exactly | Apr 04 18:30 |
| schestowitz | Nice in how it works | Apr 04 18:30 |
| schestowitz | But so wrinkled... | Apr 04 18:30 |
| sebsebseb | wrinkled ? | Apr 04 18:31 |
| schestowitz | Hoggign resources and crashing | Apr 04 18:31 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: has creases | Apr 04 18:31 |
| sebsebseb | first of all nagging me about using kwallet, and I would be like no, I don't want to use kwallet | Apr 04 18:31 |
| sebsebseb | and it would nag me | Apr 04 18:31 |
| sebsebseb | and be really slow to load up | Apr 04 18:31 |
| sebsebseb | then upgarding choqok and disabling kwallet didn't even help and uh | Apr 04 18:31 |
| schestowitz | yes | Apr 04 18:32 |
| schestowitz | I had that too today | Apr 04 18:32 |
| schestowitz | It took it minutes to start | Apr 04 18:32 |
| schestowitz | I thought it had gotten stuck | Apr 04 18:32 |
| sebsebseb | then some issue aadding account, and then it seemed to open my identica in it later. ,but all this being really slow to load up issues and so on | Apr 04 18:32 |
| sebsebseb | yes exactly minutes to start up properly | Apr 04 18:32 |
| sebsebseb | that kind of thing | Apr 04 18:32 |
| sebsebseb | and may have to tell it to open up again sometimes even | Apr 04 18:32 |
| schestowitz | I manage 6 accounts with it, mostly the tr ones with twitter/identica split | Apr 04 18:32 |
| schestowitz | And I have to minimise it before closing | Apr 04 18:33 |
| sebsebseb | shame Choqok issues, because well it can show 1000 dents in time lines :) | Apr 04 18:33 |
| sebsebseb | it can go back properly and show 1000 dents in time liens | Apr 04 18:33 |
| schestowitz | Otherwise it crashes withou remembering what I have read | Apr 04 18:33 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: sometimes there are some pretty interesting dents on identica I find, but a lot of not intersting dents as well | Apr 04 18:33 |
| schestowitz | Sometimes I get 6000 | Apr 04 18:33 |
| schestowitz | But then it can take up almost a gig of RAM | Apr 04 18:33 |
| schestowitz | maybe 700MB | Apr 04 18:33 |
| sebsebseb | ,but going through these 52 pages really does suck to see old dents: http://identi.ca/sebsebseb/all | Apr 04 18:34 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: sebsebseb and friends - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 66.3 KB | Apr 04 18:34 |
| sebsebseb | apparanetly statusnet 1.0 will have custom time lines though :D | Apr 04 18:34 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: anyway yeah it seems, that Choqok will get issues in other distro's as well :( | Apr 04 18:35 |
| schestowitz | 1.0? | Apr 04 18:35 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: it does | Apr 04 18:35 |
| schestowitz | even ubuntu | Apr 04 18:35 |
| schestowitz | And I got it from PPA IIRC | Apr 04 18:35 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: whatever the next major version of statusnet is | Apr 04 18:35 |
| sebsebseb | uh your on Ubuntu? | Apr 04 18:35 |
| schestowitz | kubuntu right now.. | Apr 04 18:36 |
| schestowitz | Depends when/where | Apr 04 18:36 |
| sebsebseb | Kubuntu 11.04 beta? | Apr 04 18:36 |
| schestowitz | I use fedora at work | Apr 04 18:36 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: 10.04 LTS | Apr 04 18:36 |
| sebsebseb | Why? | Apr 04 18:36 |
| schestowitz | Why *not*? | Apr 04 18:36 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: I thought you didn't like Canonical that much anymore | Apr 04 18:37 |
| schestowitz | Why do you use Virgin Media? | Apr 04 18:37 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: but that was a year ago | Apr 04 18:37 |
| schestowitz | 10.04 < april | Apr 04 18:37 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: since I don't pay for the Internet Connection here at the moment, but I might have to later this year hmm | Apr 04 18:37 |
| schestowitz | Sometimes I also test Mint | Apr 04 18:37 |
| schestowitz | Ah, I envy you.. | Apr 04 18:38 |
| schestowitz | Someone else deals with ISP mess for you... | Apr 04 18:38 |
| schestowitz | And you share what's available on the line rather than pay 36 quid/month for one user | Apr 04 18:38 |
| sebsebseb | yeah, but that's what happens for loads of people when... | Apr 04 18:38 |
| sebsebseb | when they still... | Apr 04 18:38 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: yep share the connection with my family | Apr 04 18:39 |
| sebsebseb | Did you get a discount for BT or not? | Apr 04 18:40 |
| sebsebseb | also it's not like you need the most expensive package anyway? | Apr 04 18:40 |
| schestowitz | Yes, 33 quid | Apr 04 18:40 |
| sebsebseb | what would it be normally? | Apr 04 18:40 |
| schestowitz | It doesn't matter, I'm tired of BT | Apr 04 18:40 |
| sebsebseb | your pretty much stuck with them now I guess? | Apr 04 18:40 |
| schestowitz | But I have a working line again, I can't be arsed to shop around again | Apr 04 18:40 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: indeed | Apr 04 18:44 |
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| schestowitz | [23:00] <_Goblin> Tonights title - "Escaping the soaps" ???? | Apr 04 23:04 |
| schestowitz | [23:02] <_Goblin> or "Bad Boy Ballmer and his Botched up Business?" | Apr 04 23:04 |
| schestowitz | [23:02] <_Goblin> or.... | Apr 04 23:04 |
| schestowitz | [23:03] <_Goblin> "Moving the goalposts - Wintrolls concede?" | Apr 04 23:04 |
| schestowitz | [23:03] <schestowitz> I'll use both :-) | Apr 04 23:04 |
| schestowitz | [23:03] <_Goblin> Im brainstorming! | Apr 04 23:04 |
| schestowitz | [23:08] <Guest15745> at meeting tomorrow, but can hook up later in afternoon/evening if you like for foods | Apr 04 23:10 |
| schestowitz | [23:08] <Guest15745> are you busy tomorrow day? | Apr 04 23:10 |
| schestowitz | [23:08] <schestowitz> No, all free. | Apr 04 23:10 |
| schestowitz | [23:08] <schestowitz> What time? | Apr 04 23:10 |
| schestowitz | ๏ฟผ | Apr 04 23:10 |
| schestowitz | [23:09] <Guest15745> ok i will bell you in morning off to bed now | Apr 04 23:10 |
| schestowitz | [23:09] <schestowitz> Sure | Apr 04 23:10 |
| schestowitz | ๏ฟผ | Apr 04 23:10 |
| schestowitz | [23:10] <Guest15745> speak in morn | Apr 04 23:10 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Metztli_IT/status/55041580108750848 | Apr 05 00:31 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @Metztli_IT: โบ @schestowitz: โบ @dagwieers: CentOS 5.6 release imminent http://tinyurl.com/3fxb5ze โ& hopefully #CentOS 6.โบ is released before #RHEL 6.1 | Apr 05 00:31 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | -> Title: CentOS 5.6 release imminent | Field Commander Wieers .::. Size~: 10.32 KB | Apr 05 00:31 |
| schestowitz | If not, they should f**k RHEL (fork I mean, wait, you thought something else? sudo fsck?) | Apr 05 00:32 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: What does segmentation fault mean anyway? | Apr 05 00:46 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: trying to recover some files | Apr 05 00:46 |
| schestowitz | it goes out of bounds allotted to the program | Apr 05 00:58 |
| schestowitz | Usually means bad programming/code, raising exception and security creeps in to shut it down | Apr 05 00:59 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: well two good answers to that then, from bruce and you | Apr 05 01:01 |
| sebsebseb | :) | Apr 05 01:01 |
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| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/70434023 https://identi.ca/notice/70434201 https://identi.ca/notice/70434468 https://identi.ca/notice/70434704 https://identi.ca/notice/70435187 https://identi.ca/notice/70435718 | Apr 05 08:01 |
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| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/70434023 https://identi.ca/notice/70434201 https://identi.ca/notice/70434468 https://identi.ca/notice/70434704 https://identi.ca/notice/70435187 https://identi.ca/notice/70435718 | Apr 05 08:02 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @George Hostler (ghostler)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Apr-11 02:40:39 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz I've used Lotus Symphony, both the Linux and Windows versions. It's based on OpenOffice and is easy to use. It is a good suite. | Apr 05 08:02 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @George Hostler (ghostler)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Apr-11 02:43:35 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz I like the article's title "Moved by Freedom โ Powered by Standards". Standards driven is the only way to go, counters lock-in. | Apr 05 08:02 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @George Hostler (ghostler)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Apr-11 02:47:20 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz "But you can copy it!" ... "Depriving its owner of potential income!" LOL we should be standards based and avoid vendor lock-in | Apr 05 08:02 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @George Hostler (ghostler)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Apr-11 02:50:53 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz "Nokia recently chose Windows Phone 7 .. for its smartphones, which .. says will save on research and development costs" - Not. | Apr 05 08:02 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @George Hostler (ghostler)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Apr-11 02:58:18 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz It took a lawsuit from a deceased to make disclosure happen. It all seemed to be manipulated including the housing market crash | Apr 05 08:02 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @George Hostler (ghostler)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Apr-11 03:05:47 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Perhaps, but to be content with a current version, would it not be practical to base decision on a Ubuntu LTE based Linux Mint? | Apr 05 08:02 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/70437052 Long ago they sent many jobs to Asia. | Apr 05 08:02 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @George Hostler (ghostler)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Apr-11 03:27:12 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Microsoft employees may be concerned about receiving a pink slip (layoff). IMHO, a lot of resources been off-shored from US. | Apr 05 08:02 |
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| qubitar | the computer > neanderthallers > secret societies > government | Apr 05 14:16 |
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| sebsebseb | hi | Apr 05 17:43 |
| qu1j0t3 | hi | Apr 05 17:44 |
| sebsebseb | qu1j0t3: hi | Apr 05 17:45 |
| qubitar | hi | Apr 05 18:29 |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: hi | Apr 05 18:30 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: hi | Apr 05 18:30 |
| MinceR | hi | Apr 05 18:30 |
| qu1j0t3 | hm | Apr 05 18:31 |
| qubitar | hm | Apr 05 18:35 |
| qubitar | http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/02/16/945768/-The-HB-Gary-Email-That-Should-Concern-Us-All | Apr 05 18:45 |
| qubitar | 'HBGary people are talking about creating "personas", what we would call sockpuppets. This is not new. PR firms have been using fake "people" to promote products and other things for a while now, both online and even in bars and coffee houses.' | Apr 05 18:45 |
| qubitar | 'Using the assigned social media accounts we can automate the posting of content that is relevant to the persona. In this case there are specific social media strategy website RSS feeds we can subscribe to and then repost content on twitter with the appropriate hashtags. ' | Apr 05 18:46 |
| qubitar | 'There are a variety of social media tricks we can use to add a level of realness to all fictitious personas' | Apr 05 18:46 |
| qubitar | the government is making sockpuppets to promote the agenda | Apr 05 18:48 |
| qubitar | these people are likely on many of our follow lists | Apr 05 18:48 |
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| schestowitz | qubitar: yeah, but old news | Apr 05 22:01 |
| schestowitz | http://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2011-04-03-007-39-OP-MS-SW-0001 | Apr 05 22:05 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 05 22:05 |
| schestowitz | Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/By_appointment_to_Her _Majesty_the_Queen | Apr 05 22:06 |
| schestowitz | This is about granting some very particular guys the exclusive right to exploit a market. | Apr 05 22:06 |
| schestowitz | They either amassed an opulent portfolio of patent rights enabling them to even sue the Pope or got rich enough to buy great numbers of patents; all this in turn makes them richer and richer -- to the point their power can vanquish those people they couldn't buy, so they can pry their patents from their cold fingers. | Apr 05 22:06 |
| schestowitz | The USPTO sanctions these events, oblivious to all harm made to the small, genuine inventors -- and to all damage done to the consumers who would benefit from those inventors' activity. | Apr 05 22:06 |
| schestowitz | ... because mkt depts can devise lots and lots of ways to extract money from suckers -- and by suckers, I mean us, of course. | Apr 05 22:06 |
| schestowitz | PS: I fortunately live in a country without software patents... but with initiatives like "son of ACTA" on the horizon, one wonders when the disease is going to spread and reach home sweet home. | Apr 05 22:06 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 05 22:06 |
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| sebsebseb | qu1j0t3: hi | Apr 06 03:22 |
| qu1j0t3 | sebsebseb: hi | Apr 06 03:23 |
| sebsebseb | qu1j0t3: so I am wrong, there are parts of the USA a head of me hmm | Apr 06 03:25 |
| sebsebseb | or does this place not count as being one really? | Apr 06 03:26 |
| sebsebseb | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Mariana_Islands | Apr 06 03:26 |
| qu1j0t3 | hehehe | Apr 06 03:34 |
| qu1j0t3 | well, it's not the continental USA | Apr 06 03:34 |
| sebsebseb | qu1j0t3: now I can't even find that place on date and time | Apr 06 04:03 |
| sebsebseb | qu1j0t3: anyway I guess my dent is pretty much correct if not correct: http://identi.ca/conversation/68208985#notice-70505924 | Apr 06 04:05 |
| sebsebseb | qu1j0t3: of course I could send a dent to the !Gnome group saying that, I might be wrong with some sort of link to do with it, but that would be a bit odd | Apr 06 04:05 |
| sebsebseb | really | Apr 06 04:05 |
| sebsebseb | qu1j0t3: want to reply to it maybe, saying something to do with it? | Apr 06 04:06 |
| qu1j0t3 | sebsebseb: I wouldn't sweat it, really. | Apr 06 04:08 |
| qu1j0t3 | sebsebseb: btw http://www.timeanddate.com is a useful site. | Apr 06 04:08 |
| sebsebseb | yes | Apr 06 04:09 |
| sebsebseb | that's where I found out about those islands from | Apr 06 04:09 |
| qu1j0t3 | ah. | Apr 06 04:09 |
| sebsebseb | then did a Google search | Apr 06 04:09 |
| sebsebseb | now can't even find the islands on there though | Apr 06 04:09 |
| qu1j0t3 | i use it sometimes because i can never keep TZ straight in my head, esp with Daylight Savings | Apr 06 04:09 |
| sebsebseb | I am reasonably good at them I guess | Apr 06 04:12 |
| sebsebseb | mainly for Europe of course though | Apr 06 04:12 |
| qu1j0t3 | :) | Apr 06 04:12 |
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| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/adrocknaphobia/statuses/55443913200238592 | Apr 06 08:25 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jwildeboer/status/55505915188740096 https://twitter.com/jwildeboer/status/55506134651514880 https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/55507415696801792 https://twitter.com/jwildeboer/status/55508980084121600 | Apr 06 08:30 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @jwildeboer: @FOSSpatents @verofakto @schestowitz for starters http://t.co/q4D6HYZ | Apr 06 08:30 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | -> Title: Open Source iPhone Apps List โ Real App Store Code Examples! | iPhone, iOS 4, iPad SDK Development Tutorial and Programming Tips .::. Size~: 69.06 KB | Apr 06 08:30 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @jwildeboer: @FOSSpatents @verofakto @schestowitz and I am pondering to write an angry birds like game called Patent Wars ;-) | Apr 06 08:30 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @FOSSpatents: @jwildeboer cc: @verofakto @schestowitz Whenever anyone seeks GPL enforcement, Apple removes GPL'd apps immediately. | Apr 06 08:30 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @jwildeboer: @FOSSpatents @verofakto @schestowitz which is worse but flat out putting GPLv3 as excluded in ToS the way MSFT does it is more evil. | Apr 06 08:30 |
| schestowitz | THe mobbyists starts to involve stalkers in the coversation | Apr 06 08:31 |
| schestowitz | It speaks volumes | Apr 06 08:31 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/55509869234626560 https://twitter.com/jwildeboer/status/55511549061767168 https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/55511635602837504 | Apr 06 08:31 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @FOSSpatents: @jwildeboer cc: @verofakto @schestowitz ToS must provide clarity for the ecosystem. Worst case: an app is thrown out for no known reason. | Apr 06 08:31 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @jwildeboer: @FOSSpatents @verofakto @schestowitz you wanted to know about GPLed apps for iPad. I delivered. EOT for me. | Apr 06 08:31 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @FOSSpatents: @verofakto Actually @schestowitz does criticize companies like RHT from time to time, also recently. But he often uses double standards. | Apr 06 08:31 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/explodingwalrus/status/55561077425053696 | Apr 06 10:36 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @explodingwalrus: @schestowitz Nice to see a matt screen on a new laptop :) | Apr 06 10:36 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpz8PMcRJSY Double Standard < good new vid | Apr 06 11:54 |
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| schestowitz | " | Apr 06 13:32 |
| schestowitz | > You should talk to your lawyer. I didn't read what you wrote, but I | Apr 06 13:32 |
| schestowitz | > can't advise on any legal issues anyway. There are rules about it. | Apr 06 13:32 |
| schestowitz | I did not pass it to you for purposes like consultation and we resolved this over at twitter. But the point I was trying to get across, this guy is afraid having said what pretty much left him naked (he may have had a senior moment or gotten sloppy); he pretty much conceded that TH (partly owned by Microsoft) held his hand like Microsoft/W-E held O'Gara's hand while they coordinated uniform, well-planned attacks on Linux/OSDL | Apr 06 13:32 |
| schestowitz | This ought to be fuel for Groklaw. | Apr 06 13:32 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 06 13:32 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/cheezburgrmania/status/55590434948399104 | Apr 06 13:33 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @cheezburgrmania: @schestowitz threats against :-( must mean you are effective | Apr 06 13:33 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/70534179 | Apr 06 13:33 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @satipera (satipera)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Apr-11 12:19:26 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz what is the nature of legal threat from Florian Mueller | Apr 06 13:33 |
| schestowitz | I alluded to him getting non-public information of TurboHercules (partly-owned by Microsoft) and he then took my claim out of context. | Apr 06 13:35 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/70534541 | Apr 06 13:35 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @agentsmith's status on Wednesday, 06-Apr-11 12:26:54 UTC - Identi.ca: @satipera @schestowitz Ops, Mr. Patents is after you, Dr. Roy ? | Apr 06 13:35 |
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| schestowitz | I seem to be disrupting his lobbying career (which is still in its diapers). He became what he had fought. | Apr 06 13:38 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/70535055 | Apr 06 13:39 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @satipera (satipera)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Apr-11 12:36:52 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Yes, but what legal action is he threatening by email? | Apr 06 13:39 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/70537450 | Apr 06 14:17 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @Techrights' IRC Aggregator (boycottnovell)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Apr-11 13:13:12 UTC - Identi.ca: FFII President Denounces Googleโs Bid for Patents http://ur1.ca/3shl7 #uspto #monooly | Apr 06 14:17 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | -> Title: FFII President Denounces Googleโs Bid for Patents | Techrights .::. Size~: 89.99 KB | Apr 06 14:17 |
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| sebsebseb | Hi | Apr 06 17:47 |
| qu1j0t3 | hi | Apr 06 17:59 |
| sebsebseb | qu1j0t3: Gnome 3 today :) | Apr 06 18:03 |
| qu1j0t3 | oh. | Apr 06 18:03 |
| qubitar | too bad gnome sucks | Apr 06 18:14 |
| sebsebseb | qubitar: no | Apr 06 18:14 |
| qubitar | yes | Apr 06 18:14 |
| qu1j0t3 | yes. no. | Apr 06 18:15 |
| qubitar | they don't cooperate with anyone else | Apr 06 18:23 |
| qu1j0t3 | well, their dna is bad. that dangerous nitwit de Icaza. | Apr 06 18:23 |
| qu1j0t3 | i've considered abandoning gnome because of this association. | Apr 06 18:24 |
| sebsebseb | qu1j0t3: yeah, but he doesn't work on GNome 3 I think? | Apr 06 18:26 |
| qu1j0t3 | sebsebseb: he founded the project. | Apr 06 18:26 |
| qu1j0t3 | hence: faulty DNA | Apr 06 18:26 |
| sebsebseb | yeah Gnome 1 or whatever | Apr 06 18:26 |
| sebsebseb | and he did whatever for Gnome 2 | Apr 06 18:26 |
| sebsebseb | ,but I think Gnome 3 is mainly because of other people really | Apr 06 18:27 |
| qu1j0t3 | unfortunately his association is an indelible fact, unless they distanced themselves in writing (and they should!) | Apr 06 18:27 |
| qubitar | gnome will cooperate with freedesktop.org as long as they are using gnomes ideas | Apr 06 18:34 |
| qubitar | gtk3 was causing issues | Apr 06 18:35 |
| qubitar | KDE themes gnome apps so they don't look stupid in KDE | Apr 06 18:36 |
| qubitar | fortunately this problem won't show up for end users | Apr 06 18:36 |
| schestowitz | qubitar: hi | Apr 06 19:15 |
| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: Quadrescence: yesterday and today I found two more people who can help create the company and get clients | Apr 06 19:17 |
| qu1j0t3 | ok | Apr 06 19:25 |
| qubitar | yo yo yo roy | Apr 06 19:50 |
| qubitar | whats up | Apr 06 19:50 |
| schestowitz | just having some chomod problems | Apr 06 20:05 |
| schestowitz | in mdiawiki | Apr 06 20:05 |
| qubitar | chomod? | Apr 06 20:14 |
| qubitar | never tried mdiawiki | Apr 06 20:15 |
| qu1j0t3 | lol | Apr 06 20:15 |
| schestowitz | I've just updated http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/User:Schestowitz | Apr 06 20:16 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: User:Schestowitz - Techrights .::. Size~: 15.81 KB | Apr 06 20:16 |
| qu1j0t3 | i hard it works vry wll | Apr 06 20:16 |
| schestowitz | Basically, it was not my fault | Apr 06 20:16 |
| schestowitz | I was on VOIP with a mate | Apr 06 20:16 |
| schestowitz | And I tell him I knock my head with it | Apr 06 20:16 |
| schestowitz | This error: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/wiki/mediawiki/119354 | Apr 06 20:16 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Upload Directory Issue | Wikipedia | Mediawiki .::. Size~: 23.31 KB | Apr 06 20:16 |
| schestowitz | But permissions were fine | Apr 06 20:16 |
| schestowitz | I hadn't even changed them | Apr 06 20:16 |
| schestowitz | It turns out that it just didn't like the filename!!! | Apr 06 20:16 |
| schestowitz | So bad error message basically | Apr 06 20:16 |
| schestowitz | http://freelish.us/notice/3406382 | Apr 06 20:22 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Dimitri Dhuyvetter (d)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Apr-11 14:22:57 UTC - freelish.us .::. Size~: 8.9 KB | Apr 06 20:22 |
| qu1j0t3 | hm. | Apr 06 20:24 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: a new service to special-case in the bot? | Apr 06 20:24 |
| schestowitz | Maybe | Apr 06 20:25 |
| schestowitz | But too many cases | Apr 06 20:25 |
| qu1j0t3 | three? | Apr 06 20:25 |
| qu1j0t3 | depends if you cite them enough. | Apr 06 20:25 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/OpenIBM/statuses/55638390464446464 | Apr 06 20:26 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @OpenIBM: #RedHat is Not Transparent Enough http://techrights.org/2011/03/01/dubious-secrets/ #linux | Apr 06 20:26 |
| schestowitz | Hmm... IMB? | Apr 06 20:26 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | -> Title: Red Hat is Not Transparent Enough | Techrights .::. Size~: 87.25 KB | Apr 06 20:26 |
| schestowitz | IBM I mean | Apr 06 20:26 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/highscale/statuses/55638264094269440 | Apr 06 20:26 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @HighScale: #Novellโs (#Microsoft-Funded) Anti-#Ubuntu #Propaganda http://techrights.org/2011/03/01/banshee-vs-canonical/ | Apr 06 20:26 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | -> Title: Novellโs (Microsoft-Funded) Anti-Ubuntu Propaganda | Techrights .::. Size~: 113.37 KB | Apr 06 20:26 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/qu1j0t3/statuses/55639161100713984 | Apr 06 20:27 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @qu1j0t3: MT @petrvanblokland @iA Monbiot: Here 100% right: http://bit.ly/fGsDDd #astroturfing #microsoft #war #fraud #greed cc @schestowitz | Apr 06 20:27 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | -> Title: The need to protect the internet from 'astroturfing' grows ever more urgent | George Monbiot | Environment | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 262.53 KB | Apr 06 20:27 |
| schestowitz | Yeah.. | Apr 06 20:28 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/verofakto/statuses/55681563437957120 | Apr 06 20:28 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @verofakto: @schestowitz No, we'll just call you IBM Roy #shill /cc @FOSSpatents | Apr 06 20:28 |
| schestowitz | What a disgusting stalker/shilll... some .NET dev | Apr 06 20:28 |
| schestowitz | Or just a bully/mercenary | Apr 06 20:28 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/55682534587121664 | Apr 06 20:28 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @FOSSpatents: @verofakto In terms of focus, @schestowitz is Microsoft Roy more than any other Roy on this planet. | Apr 06 20:28 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/verofakto/statuses/55685178907041792 | Apr 06 20:29 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @verofakto: @schestowitz just called the #FFII "cowards" on his #IBM-sponsored blog. Funny when the zealots are at each other's throats #ideologyfail | Apr 06 20:29 |
| schestowitz | BS | Apr 06 20:29 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/verofakto/statuses/55698384048234496 | Apr 06 20:29 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @verofakto: @FOSSpatents ROFLMAO, yes, if we use #BoycottBoy's burden of proof, that means he's employed by #IBM hahahahahaha | Apr 06 20:29 |
| schestowitz | Yuck | Apr 06 20:29 |
| schestowitz | What a rpick | Apr 06 20:29 |
| qu1j0t3 | Followed by @darrenlund and @merlyn. | Apr 06 20:30 |
| qu1j0t3 | seems he's probably a big name | Apr 06 20:30 |
| schestowitz | http://bit.ly/gyz9gs | Apr 06 20:32 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Twitter / verofakto: @FOSSpatents @schestowitz ... .::. Size~: 13.24 KB | Apr 06 20:32 |
| schestowitz | LMAO | Apr 06 20:32 |
| qu1j0t3 | QueenRania Rania Al Abdullah | Apr 06 20:37 |
| qu1j0t3 | A mum and a wife with a really cool day job... | Apr 06 20:37 |
| *qu1j0t3 vomits | Apr 06 20:37 | |
| qu1j0t3 | Eric Schmidt follows her. | Apr 06 20:37 |
| schestowitz | Gates uses her | Apr 06 20:42 |
| schestowitz | both are pr whores | Apr 06 20:43 |
| qu1j0t3 | yes. | Apr 06 20:45 |
| qu1j0t3 | Huffington syndicates her. | Apr 06 20:45 |
| qu1j0t3 | ...and so the circle is complete... | Apr 06 20:45 |
| qu1j0t3 | I'm just a "mum and a wife". | Apr 06 20:46 |
| qu1j0t3 | couldn't possibly be threatening | Apr 06 20:46 |
| qu1j0t3 | perhaps the most blatant use of the trojan horse "just a little woman" trick yet | Apr 06 20:46 |
| schestowitz | yeah | Apr 06 20:48 |
| schestowitz | The king uses her | Apr 06 20:48 |
| schestowitz | Makes more than half the population in Jordan (women) feel OK | Apr 06 20:49 |
| schestowitz | Represented | Apr 06 20:49 |
| schestowitz | As mothers and wives | Apr 06 20:49 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: Gnome 3 is out | Apr 06 21:11 |
| qu1j0t3 | https://twitter.com/#!/GaeMar01/status/55725301560389633 | Apr 06 21:17 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @GaeMar01: RT @citypolwire: Is #TonyBlair going to be named chairman of a major UK company tomorrow? Or have I been fed duff info ... | Apr 06 21:17 |
| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: we're launching soon | Apr 06 21:19 |
| schestowitz | Are you still willing to help if we get Canadian interest? | Apr 06 21:19 |
| schestowitz | I understand you may take full-time in TO. | Apr 06 21:20 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 06 21:20 |
| schestowitz | > I was just looking at some of your website and the Schestowitz | Apr 06 21:20 |
| schestowitz | > scientific freedom website. | Apr 06 21:20 |
| schestowitz | > Could tell you are an open software enthusiast. I also read the Mission | Apr 06 21:20 |
| schestowitz | > Statement you the link you gave me. | Apr 06 21:20 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 06 21:20 |
| schestowitz | > I am interested in taking part, and would be delighted if you considered | Apr 06 21:20 |
| schestowitz | > including me in the team. | Apr 06 21:20 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 06 21:20 |
| schestowitz | > if there are any information you want me to know about, please let me know. | Apr 06 21:20 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 06 21:20 |
| schestowitz | > Joshua | Apr 06 21:20 |
| schestowitz | Hi Joshua, | Apr 06 21:20 |
| schestowitz | Thanks for getting in touch. The site is under construction in a sense (I built it content-wise while on the train) and it's one among 6 that I have. Some of them are large enough to leave my pages well out of date, as old as 7 to 10 years (my CV for example). I've contacted my friend Mike who will contact Henry, a Linux/DB sysadmin. I have not formally announced this yet, nor have I 'advertised' it in any way (I don't fancy | Apr 06 21:20 |
| schestowitz | the term advertised). Currently, to promote scientific freedom I have run http://techrights.org , reaching millions of people there. But there are also accounts like http://identi.ca/schestowitz http://twitter.com/schestowitz http://digg.com/schestowitz -- places where we can get the word out. It is essential that we gain clients in order to assure income by deployment. I ought to meet my friend Neil this week, as he knows | Apr 06 21:20 |
| schestowitz | people who might need contracts. | Apr 06 21:20 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 06 21:20 |
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| schestowitz | "Thanks so much. Tomorrow I resume coding and I will tell you how it blends in ASAP." | Apr 06 21:33 |
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| schestowitz | "Matt Gilman (@iiimadmaniii) is now following your tweets (@schestowitz) on Twitter. " | Apr 07 00:59 |
| schestowitz | "Bio I'm going to destroy a girl's life, and straighten out my credit at the same time. She'll see and know first hand soon. " | Apr 07 00:59 |
| schestowitz | Huh | Apr 07 00:59 |
| qu1j0t3 | ...! | Apr 07 01:01 |
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| MinceR | http://failblog.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/07f8bd92-382b-45cd-8ad1-e028e0a850f0.jpg | Apr 07 10:42 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Not a web page! Aborting image/jpeg type | Apr 07 10:42 |
| schestowitz | on the pew | Apr 07 11:22 |
| schestowitz | "IT IS easy to spot patterns. People who promote <a href="http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Mono" title="Mono">Mono</a> and <a href="http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Moonlight" title="Moonlight">Moonlight</a> do not usually like GNU/Linux; they like or even love Microsoft software and these projects are ways of spreading this love to more platforms. For the past three years we carried on showing that those who care the | Apr 07 14:39 |
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| schestowitz | most about Mono and Moonlight releases are Microsoft journalists, not Linux-focused reported. It speaks volumes." | Apr 07 14:39 |
| schestowitz | Time to write a rebuttal to it all... | Apr 07 14:39 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/TummyCustard/status/55982639752036352 | Apr 07 15:08 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @TummyCustard: @schestowitz @explodingwalrus Hah, an age old lesson. You cozy up with Microsoft, you're dead within 5 years. | Apr 07 15:08 |
| qu1j0t3 | who are you writing about? SCO comes to mind. | Apr 07 15:10 |
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| *Now talking on #boycottnovell-social | Apr 07 16:30 | |
| *Topic for #boycottnovell-social is: TechRights.org | Channel #boycottnovell-social for http://TechRights.org | Communication about anything, including Microsoft, Novell, and Free software :: please also join channels #techrights and #boycottnovell | Apr 07 16:30 | |
| *Topic for #boycottnovell-social set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Fri May 7 00:20:14 2010 | Apr 07 16:30 | |
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| sebsebseb | hi | Apr 07 18:17 |
| qu1j0t3 | hi | Apr 07 19:17 |
| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: just changes my profile in twitter to say "Schestowitz specialises in scientific computing that puts users in control of the entire software stack" | Apr 07 21:34 |
| schestowitz | I might turn that account into something more specific | Apr 07 21:35 |
| schestowitz | Now just broad politics+linux+etc | Apr 07 21:35 |
| schestowitz | Today I have over here for 3 hours a person who wants to start the business with us | Apr 07 21:35 |
| schestowitz | [let me know when you read this] | Apr 07 21:35 |
| qu1j0t3 | good slogan. | Apr 07 21:50 |
| qu1j0t3 | :) | Apr 07 21:50 |
| schestowitz | I didn't take much time to think of it, just typed it | Apr 07 21:53 |
| schestowitz | But the discussion went for a long time and we plan to go live some time soon | Apr 07 21:53 |
| schestowitz | He lives close, so it's making the basis a bit stronger | Apr 07 21:54 |
| schestowitz | What I was thinking is, I will approach matlab users | Apr 07 21:54 |
| schestowitz | Many are likely to be in America and I can't do it all via ssh, so good to have Quadrescence and you there | Apr 07 21:54 |
| schestowitz | [assuming it takes off OK, in the sense that we can attract contract work] | Apr 07 21:55 |
| Quadrescence | schestowitz: Do you have a British accent? | Apr 07 21:55 |
| schestowitz | No | Apr 07 21:55 |
| qu1j0t3 | lolwut | Apr 07 21:55 |
| Quadrescence | Do you have a non-American accent? | Apr 07 21:55 |
| qu1j0t3 | Quadrescence: of course he does. | Apr 07 21:55 |
| schestowitz | non-American | Apr 07 21:55 |
| schestowitz | aka "them" | Apr 07 21:56 |
| schestowitz | :-) | Apr 07 21:56 |
| qu1j0t3 | The Others. | Apr 07 21:56 |
| schestowitz | the brutes | Apr 07 21:56 |
| schestowitz | Quadrescence: people here usually think I'm from America | Apr 07 21:57 |
| schestowitz | But anyhoo... | Apr 07 21:57 |
| schestowitz | So my plan from December is becoming concrete | Apr 07 21:57 |
| schestowitz | I now have 3 points of contact from which to network | Apr 07 21:57 |
| schestowitz | I used to have 1 | Apr 07 21:57 |
| schestowitz | But until the draft site is clearer and more professional-looking we can start making contact (premature would blow off chances) | Apr 07 21:58 |
| Quadrescence | schestowitz: Have you written up a prospective business plan at all? | Apr 07 22:04 |
| schestowitz | Not yet | Apr 07 22:08 |
| schestowitz | That needs to be done too | Apr 07 22:08 |
| schestowitz | But I don't need it for VC, I don't think the nature of this requires much a priori work and development like when you sell s/w as opposes to man hours | Apr 07 22:09 |
| Quadrescence | schestowitz: Do you think you'd have a VC? | Apr 07 22:11 |
| qu1j0t3 | VC is crazytown. | Apr 07 22:13 |
| Quadrescence | Angel investors are the best investors, right qu1j0t3 | Apr 07 22:13 |
| Quadrescence | qu1j0t3, you are my angel investor | Apr 07 22:13 |
| qu1j0t3 | Quadrescence: LOL | Apr 07 22:13 |
| qu1j0t3 | Quadrescence: i'd need to see a stock certificate first | Apr 07 22:14 |
| qubitar | roy wouldn't use vc | Apr 07 22:14 |
| qubitar | it has capitalist in its name | Apr 07 22:14 |
| Quadrescence | haha | Apr 07 22:14 |
| qu1j0t3 | it's also crazytown. | Apr 07 22:14 |
| qu1j0t3 | roy wouldn't use it because it's nuts. | Apr 07 22:14 |
| Quadrescence | Well he said "bla bla doesn't need it for VC", so I figured he'd maybe use it. | Apr 07 22:14 |
| qubitar | unless hes planning on using the first venture communist | Apr 07 22:14 |
| schestowitz | I could use VC | Apr 07 22:19 |
| schestowitz | If it became needed, but it's crazy early to mention this at this point | Apr 07 22:19 |
| schestowitz | Because it's better to develop a base to work with and start with | Apr 07 22:19 |
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| *schestowitz is now known as i | Apr 07 23:49 | |
| *i is now known as schestowitz | Apr 07 23:49 | |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: hmm http://identi.ca/conversation/68338024 | Apr 08 00:26 |
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| sebsebseb | schestowitz: well that's ashame to read that, and he seemed to have been looking forward to trying the Beta | Apr 08 00:29 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: mandriva had a bug | Apr 08 00:29 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: uhmm? | Apr 08 00:29 |
| schestowitz | They released a fix with boot changs | Apr 08 00:29 |
| schestowitz | !google mandriva corrigenda | Apr 08 00:30 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | [1] - The Games Geeks Play! โ LINUX For You Magazine | http://www.linuxforu.com/news/the-games-geeks-play/ | Apr 08 00:30 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | [2] - C/C++ query(nested struct) in C++ | http://www.eggheadcafe.com/software/aspnet/36192062/cc-querynested-struct.aspx | Apr 08 00:30 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | [3] - Linux Standard Base - Viquipรจdia | http://ca.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_Standard_Base | Apr 08 00:30 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | [4] - amaroK 2.0.1.1: Excellent audio player with covers and smart lists ... | http://www.linuxinet.com/free-linux-software/amarok-2-0-1-1-excellent-audio-player-covers-and-smart-lists.html | Apr 08 00:30 |
| schestowitz | !google mandriva errata | Apr 08 00:30 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | [1] - Releases/Mandriva/Errata - Mandriva Community Wiki | http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Releases/Mandriva/Errata | Apr 08 00:30 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | [2] - 2008.1 Errata - Mandriva Community Wiki | http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/2008.1_Errata | Apr 08 00:30 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | [3] - 2010.0 Errata - Mandriva Community Wiki | http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/2010.0_Errata | Apr 08 00:30 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | [4] - 2009.0 Errata - Mandriva Community Wiki | http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/2009.0_Errata | Apr 08 00:30 |
| schestowitz | in 2011 too | Apr 08 00:30 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: can you provide a proper link for a install is slow bug being fixed for Mandriva 2011? | Apr 08 00:36 |
| schestowitz | no | Apr 08 00:37 |
| schestowitz | it would not boot | Apr 08 00:37 |
| schestowitz | check out mandriva official blog about 2 weeks ago | Apr 08 00:37 |
| schestowitz | http://www.ubuntu-user.com/Online/Blogs/Amber-Graner-You-in-Ubuntu/Where-are-Ubuntu-servers-being-used | Apr 08 00:38 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Where are Ubuntu servers being used? / Amber Graner: You in Ubuntu / Blogs / Online / Home - Ubuntu User .::. Size~: 90.69 KB | Apr 08 00:38 |
| schestowitz | I deployed a couple in the uk last month | Apr 08 00:38 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: :( | Apr 08 00:38 |
| schestowitz | oh, gimme a break :-) | Apr 08 00:39 |
| schestowitz | Your distro doesn't target servers | Apr 08 00:39 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: my distro is a few | Apr 08 00:48 |
| sebsebseb | also your meant to use Debian or CentOS really for servers, not Ubuntu | Apr 08 00:48 |
| schestowitz | gn | Apr 08 00:49 |
| Ender2070 | why would anyone want to touch mandriva | Apr 08 01:12 |
| Ender2070 | I say that due to mageia | Apr 08 01:13 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2011/apr/07/schools-school-funding?CMP=twt_gu | Apr 08 01:26 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Cathie Black and the privatisation of education | Daniel Denvir | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 131.44 KB | Apr 08 01:26 |
| qu1j0t3 | Quadrescence: ^^ that's worth reading, a good summary of how Obama administration is implementing right wing extremist plans to destroy public education. Gates is a big part ofthis effort. | Apr 08 01:29 |
| sebsebseb | qu1j0t3: turns out they may not do Unity by default in Ubuntu 11.04 | Apr 08 01:30 |
| qu1j0t3 | what's Unity again? | Apr 08 01:31 |
| *qu1j0t3 doesn't use Ubuntu | Apr 08 01:31 | |
| sebsebseb | their own interface | Apr 08 01:32 |
| sebsebseb | instead of Gnome Shell | Apr 08 01:32 |
| qu1j0t3 | what's Gnome Shell? | Apr 08 01:32 |
| qu1j0t3 | the Gnome desktop? | Apr 08 01:33 |
| sebsebseb | the new interface for Gnome 3 | Apr 08 01:33 |
| qu1j0t3 | oh. | Apr 08 01:33 |
| qu1j0t3 | well i'm kind of interested in trying Gnome 3... | Apr 08 01:33 |
| sebsebseb | you can see videos here and so on | Apr 08 01:33 |
| sebsebseb | http://gnome3.org | Apr 08 01:33 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: GNOME 3 - Made of Easy .::. Size~: 7.84 KB | Apr 08 01:33 |
| qu1j0t3 | i dont really do videos. too old | Apr 08 01:33 |
| sebsebseb | download a OpenSuse or Fedora test CD even | Apr 08 01:33 |
| sebsebseb | uh how old are you? | Apr 08 01:34 |
| qu1j0t3 | 41! | Apr 08 01:34 |
| qu1j0t3 | http://www.malcolmcoles.co.uk/blog/demographic-youtube-uk/ | Apr 08 01:36 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: The demographic of Youtubeโs UK audience ยป Malcolm Coles .::. Size~: 37.86 KB | Apr 08 01:36 |
| Quadrescence | qu1j0t3: every day I get more angry @ the gov | Apr 08 01:41 |
| qu1j0t3 | Quadrescence: & the ppl behind them i hope | Apr 08 01:53 |
| Quadrescence | qu1j0t3: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2011/04/anonymous-goes-after-sony-makes-it-personal-very-personal.ars | Apr 08 01:58 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Anonymous goes after Sony, makes it personal... very personal .::. Size~: 36.33 KB | Apr 08 01:58 |
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| schestowitz | [01:29] <qu1j0t3> Quadrescence: ^^ that's worth reading, a good summary of how Obama administration is implementing right wing extremist plans to destroy public education. Gates is a big part ofthis effort. | Apr 08 07:09 |
| schestowitz | Part of the obscene view that if *Everything* is turned into business mode, then it improves | Apr 08 07:09 |
| schestowitz | > I sent this riddle to 6 people who I consider very intelligent. The only one | Apr 08 07:12 |
| schestowitz | > to accept the challenge and send back the right answer was my 18-year-old | Apr 08 07:12 |
| schestowitz | > grandson Steven (Julie's son). He says it took him about 10 minutes. | Apr 08 07:12 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 08 07:12 |
| schestowitz | > Do you consider the level of difficulty for most people...(do not include | Apr 08 07:12 |
| schestowitz | > yourself) in solving this riddle low, medium or high? | Apr 08 07:12 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 08 07:12 |
| schestowitz | > O.K. Here it is: | Apr 08 07:12 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 08 07:12 |
| schestowitz | > "How old are you?" | Apr 08 07:12 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 08 07:12 |
| schestowitz | > "Well I forget exactly, but I do remember that my brother is two years older | Apr 08 07:12 |
| schestowitz | > than I,. my sister is four years older than he, and . um, mother was twenty | Apr 08 07:12 |
| schestowitz | > eight when I was born. . Oh, and my sister recently said that the average | Apr 08 07:12 |
| schestowitz | > age of the four of us is seventy-four." | Apr 08 07:12 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 08 07:12 |
| schestowitz | > How old was he? | Apr 08 07:12 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 08 07:12 |
| schestowitz | > I peeked at the answer and then was easily able to work out the ages for all | Apr 08 07:12 |
| schestowitz | > and they did average 74. However, I did not actually solve the riddle. | Apr 08 07:12 |
| schestowitz | Oh, I don't want to even get started as I might obsess over it and I really need to start coding heavily this weekend. | Apr 08 07:15 |
| MinceR | 65y | Apr 08 07:21 |
| schestowitz | :-) | Apr 08 07:38 |
| MinceR | http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lgi4mv2rgX1qg4oi0o1_400.jpg | Apr 08 09:53 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Not a web page! Aborting image/jpeg type | Apr 08 09:53 |
| schestowitz | :-D | Apr 08 10:31 |
| schestowitz | Some adults have imaginary friends who human like them | Apr 08 10:32 |
| schestowitz | Just had a chat about that the other day.. | Apr 08 10:32 |
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| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: yes, it's related. but there seem to be a few much more sinister things behind this as well. | Apr 08 13:22 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: even if you look at that ideology ALONE, it | Apr 08 13:23 |
| oiaohm | qu1j0t3: Just got in what topic. | Apr 08 13:23 |
| qu1j0t3 | oiaohm: http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2011/apr/07/schools-school-funding | Apr 08 13:23 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Cathie Black and the privatisation of education | Daniel Denvir | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 155.52 KB | Apr 08 13:23 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz | Part of the obscene view that if *Everything* is turned into business mode, then it improves | Apr 08 13:24 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: ...even if you look at that ideology ALONE, it is denied that the change is ideological | Apr 08 13:25 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: I think we are dealing with a different species entirely | Apr 08 13:25 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: of human. We have these countless examples of straight-face lunatics -- Rhee, H.Clinton, all the way thru Obama, Blair, Harper, and thousands of others | Apr 08 13:26 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: they act as if programmed ... | Apr 08 13:27 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: not 'born'. | Apr 08 13:27 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: maybe 'V' is actually a documentary.... | Apr 08 13:27 |
| oiaohm | qu1j0t3: Really lets be trueful most countrys don't most of the population with a good education | Apr 08 13:30 |
| oiaohm | Since it would make idiot getting into goverment job harder. | Apr 08 13:31 |
| qu1j0t3 | of course. that's part of it. | Apr 08 13:31 |
| qu1j0t3 | it's also about creating a slave class | Apr 08 13:31 |
| qu1j0t3 | or perpetuating one, more accurately | Apr 08 13:31 |
| oiaohm | USA eductation system already fails students. | Apr 08 13:32 |
| oiaohm | So really cannot be made much worse. | Apr 08 13:32 |
| qu1j0t3 | oh, it can :) | Apr 08 13:32 |
| qu1j0t3 | wrecking it is an active project for the current administration. | Apr 08 13:32 |
| qu1j0t3 | Arne Duncan was hired to do this | Apr 08 13:32 |
| qu1j0t3 | Bill Gates is pushing the project along | Apr 08 13:33 |
| oiaohm | Australia has issues in its education systems. | Apr 08 13:33 |
| qu1j0t3 | same agenda is being applied in UK, Australia | Apr 08 13:33 |
| qu1j0t3 | Canada will be hit as well, though it's not much in the news yet | Apr 08 13:33 |
| oiaohm | Not really qu1j0t3 | Apr 08 13:33 |
| qu1j0t3 | definitely. | Apr 08 13:33 |
| qu1j0t3 | nobody escapes, oiaohm | Apr 08 13:33 |
| qu1j0t3 | did you miss the protests in the UK ? | Apr 08 13:33 |
| oiaohm | Australia kinda different. | Apr 08 13:33 |
| qu1j0t3 | oiaohm: it is? | Apr 08 13:33 |
| qu1j0t3 | i should visit some time. | Apr 08 13:34 |
| qu1j0t3 | must be amazing to have escaped this crap. | Apr 08 13:34 |
| qu1j0t3 | oiaohm: at least you guys stayed well out of the Iraq war. well done! | Apr 08 13:34 |
| oiaohm | Our schools have required testing. Any school who students are not passing as well as the rest can expect inspentions. | Apr 08 13:34 |
| qu1j0t3 | oiaohm: read the article. | Apr 08 13:34 |
| qu1j0t3 | oiaohm: that's part of the agenda... | Apr 08 13:35 |
| oiaohm | Funny part private schools were doing better. So they have lost funding here. qu1j0t3 | Apr 08 13:35 |
| qu1j0t3 | to the extent that slave class is wanted, the agenda will be applied. | Apr 08 13:37 |
| qu1j0t3 | simple cause and effect | Apr 08 13:37 |
| qu1j0t3 | Howard is gone, he was the most effective agent | Apr 08 13:37 |
| qu1j0t3 | he'll be back, in some other guise | Apr 08 13:37 |
| oiaohm | Iraq war has been profitable to australia. qu1j0t3 | Apr 08 13:38 |
| qu1j0t3 | that's great | Apr 08 13:38 |
| qu1j0t3 | i'm pretty thrilled about that | Apr 08 13:38 |
| qu1j0t3 | in fact i'm really annoyed Canada wasn't all over that. bunch of poofters. | Apr 08 13:38 |
| oiaohm | Where do the usa aircraft taking supplies to iraq fuel up. qu1j0t3 | Apr 08 13:38 |
| qu1j0t3 | oiaohm: the relationship between US military and Australia isn't exactly new to me :) | Apr 08 13:38 |
| oiaohm | Australian and US militrary don't exacty get along. Mostly because war and war games is when Australia nicks supplies. | Apr 08 13:39 |
| qu1j0t3 | those wacky kids. | Apr 08 13:40 |
| oiaohm | Best nick was a full USA warship in a wargame. qu1j0t3 | Apr 08 13:40 |
| qu1j0t3 | thankfully, there's nothing serious at stake here. those inflatable play bombs never hurt anyone. rumours of fatalities are a communist plot. | Apr 08 13:40 |
| oiaohm | by the time the USA located the ship had lost over 2 thirds of its mass. | Apr 08 13:41 |
| oiaohm | Another 24 hours it would have been cut up for scrap metal and disappeared for good. | Apr 08 13:41 |
| qu1j0t3 | http://mobile.slashdot.org/story/11/04/08/010235/Nokia-Confirms-Symbian-Is-No-Longer-Open-Source | Apr 08 13:41 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Nokia Confirms Symbian Is No Longer Open Source - Slashdot .::. Size~: 131.57 KB | Apr 08 13:42 |
| oiaohm | War games with Australia are quite a serous game. qu1j0t3 | Apr 08 13:42 |
| oiaohm | Usa has lost a few aircraft and other items in war games as well. Set down on non approve airports and the aircraft is ours. No take backs. | Apr 08 13:42 |
| oiaohm | qu1j0t3: Most people don't know that in iraq for damaged armor there is a race between Australian and usa recovery teams. Any the australian forces get to first become ours. | Apr 08 13:44 |
| qu1j0t3 | how amusing | Apr 08 13:44 |
| oiaohm | Note we took almost no armor over there. | Apr 08 13:44 |
| oiaohm | All the armored units the Australian forces are using over there now have been aquired mostly from the USA. qu1j0t3 | Apr 08 13:45 |
| oiaohm | Yes Australia offering to assist you in battle. USA should have been asking themselves what Australia was going to take in payment. | Apr 08 13:46 |
| oiaohm | Our near by island nations have nothing to worry about. Everything they have in weapons is worse than ours so not worth taking. | Apr 08 13:47 |
| oiaohm | qu1j0t3: somethings were not amusing. Australian forces got sent over batchs of fake flack jackets. That looked almost exactly like the usa version. So you can guess what the Australian soliders were doing. | Apr 08 13:49 |
| oiaohm | qu1j0t3: Australia is partly to blame for the usa high lose of life in particular point of the iraq war. | Apr 08 13:49 |
| oiaohm | qu1j0t3: but since then USA has been equiping Australian soliders with them. | Apr 08 13:50 |
| oiaohm | And of course a percentage are going straight home to Australia basically no used. | Apr 08 13:50 |
| oiaohm | qu1j0t3: Our education system does cover a lot of history. Including some very interesting battles where australian forces had to be sneaky. | Apr 08 13:57 |
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| schestowitz | " | Apr 08 17:29 |
| schestowitz | #Following your post a few days ago: gunning-down-dissidence_ES. | Apr 08 17:29 |
| schestowitz | #Brad had the gentleness to allow us to publish his 2 | Apr 08 17:29 |
| schestowitz | political-activists-need-linux-1-and-2_ES on our Spanish Portal | Apr 08 17:29 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 08 17:29 |
| schestowitz | Just got some interetsing info from s. america | Apr 08 17:29 |
| schestowitz | Oops. I published part of the comments too, excluding Brad's part. | Apr 08 17:39 |
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| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/70684435 https://identi.ca/notice/70684479 | Apr 08 17:54 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Friday, 08-Apr-11 16:51:34 UTC - Identi.ca: @harvalah exactly | Apr 08 17:54 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Friday, 08-Apr-11 16:53:11 UTC - Identi.ca: @goforbes28 thanks :-) I enjoyed that. Will yuo join us at IRC? | Apr 08 17:54 |
| schestowitz | Hmmm.. | Apr 08 17:54 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/70683618 | Apr 08 17:55 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @G. Forbes (goforbes28)'s status on Friday, 08-Apr-11 16:33:24 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz It's Friday :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLAMhTorPCk | Apr 08 17:55 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | -> Title: YouTube - Stephen Colbert & The Roots - Friday [HD] on Late Night with Jimmy Fallon .::. Size~: 135.68 KB | Apr 08 17:55 |
| schestowitz | I think something pressured him not to be involved with the site | Apr 08 17:55 |
| qubitar | pressured me? | Apr 08 18:09 |
| *qu1j0t3 blinks | Apr 08 18:10 | |
| qubitar | or who | Apr 08 18:11 |
| schestowitz | Not you | Apr 08 18:12 |
| qu1j0t3 | nor me! but wouldn't it be exciting | Apr 08 18:12 |
| qu1j0t3 | phone call. heavy breathing. What you are doing with Tech Rights. It must stop. You understand. We know where you live. | Apr 08 18:12 |
| schestowitz | I got something wrong about Groklaw this week | Apr 08 18:13 |
| schestowitz | I need to clarify this now | Apr 08 18:13 |
| schestowitz | "I have been thinking about it a lot today. I tried to think back in time and recall where I had picked that claim and I am pretty certain that someone commenting in Groklaw said something along the lines of, "PJ used to defend patents, then she changed her mind." Suffice to say, not any comment in Groklaw is amicable and accurate. I will need to set the record straight in a dedicated post clarifying this point. Previously, I | Apr 08 18:13 |
| schestowitz | also mentioned Groklaw's apathy towards Apple's abuses and lack of criticism of Google; this was done politely and constructively at the time, as an attempt to open up a dialogue. I will tackle these points soon." | Apr 08 18:13 |
| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: no | Apr 08 18:14 |
| schestowitz | It's more like the pro-.NET sloggers try to incite him against the site | Apr 08 18:14 |
| schestowitz | They did this in twitter too | Apr 08 18:14 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: there's a line from bender which had me think it was a troll | Apr 08 22:57 |
| MinceR | ic | Apr 08 22:58 |
| schestowitz | See, the trolls sometimes try to claim I'm not a programmer | Apr 08 22:58 |
| schestowitz | And then they try to test me | Apr 08 22:58 |
| schestowitz | [22:42] <Bender> i wouldn't expect a warm welcome, guess i was mistaken | Apr 08 22:59 |
| schestowitz | [22:44] <Bender> Roy, i know it might not be a good question and a bit off topic here but i was wondering | Apr 08 22:59 |
| schestowitz | [22:45] <Bender> and since you are a programmer... :) | Apr 08 22:59 |
| MinceR | ic | Apr 08 22:59 |
| schestowitz | To discredit what I write about mono and oop | Apr 08 23:00 |
| schestowitz | but if bender's was staged, then he did a spectacular job | Apr 08 23:00 |
| schestowitz | I'm too suspicious though | Apr 08 23:03 |
| schestowitz | It's just that a new user comes to the channel for first time and asks offtopic question, directs it at me | Apr 08 23:04 |
| schestowitz | He could just google for answer | Apr 08 23:04 |
| schestowitz | "Don't listen to this mono piece, the author is _____" | Apr 08 23:04 |
| schestowitz | Had it done by the monotologists before | Apr 08 23:04 |
| MinceR | :> | Apr 08 23:05 |
| MinceR | should i leave it to you next time? :> | Apr 08 23:06 |
| schestowitz | I wasn't paying attention to desktop 4 | Apr 08 23:06 |
| schestowitz | But anyway, it's likely innocent | Apr 08 23:06 |
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| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/piyushp_20/statuses/44704065053143041 | Mar 07 02:58 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @piyushp_20: @nsisodiya @schestowitz why do u feel so guys bout d msp program..?? | Mar 07 02:58 |
| schestowitz | LOL | Mar 07 02:58 |
| schestowitz | MSP -Microsoft student peons | Mar 07 02:59 |
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| qu1j0t3 | Quadrescence: http://www.quora.com/How-does-Bill-OReilly-retain-any-credibility-after-asking-whered-the-moon-come-from/answers/428590 | Mar 07 13:04 |
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| abeNd-org | not so amusing what publishers are doing with ebooks & libraries | Mar 07 16:12 |
| abeNd-org | they are forcing them to expire after being checked out 26 times, thus requiring it to be repurchased | Mar 07 16:13 |
| abeNd-org | http://www.libraryjournal.com/lj/home/889452-264/harpercollins_puts_26_loan_cap.html.csp | Mar 07 16:14 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: HarperCollins Puts 26 Loan Cap on Ebook Circulations .::. Size~: 115.39 KB | Mar 07 16:14 |
| Ender2070 | I think i'll keep my dead tree books | Mar 07 16:34 |
| *qu1j0t3 will too | Mar 07 16:36 | |
| qu1j0t3 | in fact, I plan to buy more | Mar 07 16:36 |
| Ender2070 | me too | Mar 07 16:41 |
| Ender2070 | the best feature: they can't change the words after its printed! | Mar 07 16:41 |
| qu1j0t3 | :) | Mar 07 16:42 |
| Ender2070 | another good feature: amazon would have to break into my home to take my copy of 1984 | Mar 07 16:42 |
| qu1j0t3 | Ender2070: plus you can't beat the resolution and battery life. | Mar 07 16:42 |
| Ender2070 | :) | Mar 07 16:42 |
| Ender2070 | no DRM | Mar 07 16:42 |
| Ender2070 | anyone can read my books | Mar 07 16:43 |
| Ender2070 | except the illiterate | Mar 07 16:43 |
| Ender2070 | I find some of the best things to read are older books | Mar 07 16:45 |
| qu1j0t3 | definitely. | Mar 07 16:45 |
| *qu1j0t3 doesn't buy new books | Mar 07 16:45 | |
| Ender2070 | especially dictionaries, encyclopedias | Mar 07 16:45 |
| Ender2070 | reference materials | Mar 07 16:45 |
| Ender2070 | I grabbed a giant encyclopedic dictionary by webster for $5 | Mar 07 16:46 |
| Ender2070 | plus words disappear over time as other words build up new meanings | Mar 07 16:48 |
| Ender2070 | a shrinking language | Mar 07 16:48 |
| Ender2070 | its fascinating | Mar 07 16:48 |
| Ender2070 | I also think english was designed this way because it helps the lawmakers exploit the people | Mar 07 16:49 |
| qu1j0t3 | I'm not sure many people argue English was 'designed' :) | Mar 07 16:49 |
| Ender2070 | you get a law on the books in a way people accept it, then you change the meanings of some of the words and use a judge to 'interpret' the law | Mar 07 16:50 |
| qu1j0t3 | French was more designed, afaik | Mar 07 16:50 |
| qu1j0t3 | it's somewhat unique in that respect | Mar 07 16:50 |
| Ender2070 | english is roughly 60% french | Mar 07 16:50 |
| Ender2070 | the rest being latin and others | Mar 07 16:50 |
| qu1j0t3 | and 60% German :D | Mar 07 16:50 |
| qu1j0t3 | but it's an accretion. i wouldn't call it designed. | Mar 07 16:50 |
| Ender2070 | french, german, latin, some greek in there | Mar 07 16:50 |
| qu1j0t3 | yes. everything. | Mar 07 16:50 |
| qu1j0t3 | "English is as pure as a cribhouse whore..." | Mar 07 16:50 |
| Ender2070 | designed by francis bacon/william shakesphere | Mar 07 16:51 |
| Ender2070 | the king james bible and shakesphere - birth of english | Mar 07 16:51 |
| Ender2070 | LOL | Mar 07 16:51 |
| Ender2070 | [19:50] <qu1j0t3> "English is as pure as a cribhouse whore..." | Mar 07 16:51 |
| qu1j0t3 | famous quote | Mar 07 16:52 |
| qu1j0t3 | let me find you the entire quote | Mar 07 16:52 |
| qu1j0t3 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Nicoll#.22The_Purity_of_the_English_Language.22 | Mar 07 16:52 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: James Nicoll - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 64.91 KB | Mar 07 16:52 |
| Ender2070 | badass | Mar 07 16:55 |
| Ender2070 | Canadian | Mar 07 16:55 |
| qu1j0t3 | :) | Mar 07 16:56 |
| oiaohm | Ender2070: Remember english is a diplomats language | Mar 07 17:06 |
| oiaohm | Ender2070: So yes it has loop holes. When does a Diplomat want to be stuck to what they said. | Mar 07 17:07 |
| oiaohm | anyone else having issues connecting to techrights.org ? | Mar 07 17:56 |
| oiaohm | Could be that I just run complete out of quota | Mar 07 17:56 |
| Ender2070 | maybe the ghostwriters quit | Mar 07 18:22 |
| abeNd-org | http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/techrights.org | Mar 07 18:48 |
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| oiaohm | Ok time to bug tessier | Mar 07 19:13 |
| Ender2070 | http://www.ntu.org/tax-basics/who-pays-income-taxes.html | Mar 07 19:19 |
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| sebsebseb | Hi | Mar 08 12:09 |
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| qu1j0t3 | http://www.censor.qa/ | Mar 08 13:49 |
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| MinceR | http://www.pidjin.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/243.jpg | Mar 09 01:51 |
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| sebsebseb | hi | Mar 10 07:49 |
| abeNd-org | sebsebseb: tried out that webos & android vm? | Mar 10 07:52 |
| sebsebseb | abeNd-org: no not yet | Mar 10 07:52 |
| sebsebseb | done my upgrade to KDE 4.6.1 in PC Linux OS yep | Mar 10 07:52 |
| sebsebseb | and still problems with kapman and choqok yep :( | Mar 10 07:52 |
| abeNd-org | bugger | Mar 10 07:56 |
| sebsebseb | abeNd-org: Do you use identica or Twitter or both? | Mar 10 07:57 |
| abeNd-org | im on twitter @KKBaSS | Mar 10 07:57 |
| sebsebseb | oh Twitter :( | Mar 10 07:57 |
| abeNd-org | honestly, cant say I have ever actually been to identica | Mar 10 07:57 |
| sebsebseb | well anyway been trying out elmdentica recently :) | Mar 10 07:58 |
| sebsebseb | ,but choqok is good for showing a lot of old dents 1000 :D | Mar 10 07:58 |
| sebsebseb | abeNd-org: I shoudn't need to do this, but I am going to try it out in my Mageia vm :) | Mar 10 07:58 |
| abeNd-org | ive seen you guys talk about Identi.ca & dents, i guess im "old" & dont know what it is | Mar 10 07:59 |
| sebsebseb | like Twitter, but | Mar 10 07:59 |
| sebsebseb | open :) | Mar 10 07:59 |
| sebsebseb | and mainly opensource/Linux people :) | Mar 10 07:59 |
| sebsebseb | plus it has groups which is good | Mar 10 07:59 |
| sebsebseb | so can send a message and people who are subscribed to the group can see | Mar 10 08:00 |
| sebsebseb | unfortunatlley the Mageia people a lot of them are rather bad when it comes to groups, since to used to Twitter, so I keep on sending dents that should have gone to the group, well the message of and so on | Mar 10 08:00 |
| sebsebseb | abeNd-org: so yep Identica is awesome :) | Mar 10 08:02 |
| sebsebseb | however it's run by status.net which is open source, and runs loads of sites, but identi.ca is the most popular | Mar 10 08:02 |
| sebsebseb | abeNd-org: Twitter :( | Mar 10 08:03 |
| sebsebseb | plus someone else uses this name on it so yeah | Mar 10 08:03 |
| sebsebseb | abeNd-org: ah nuts I remember my Mageia vm works badly with the mouse stuff at the moment | Mar 10 08:05 |
| sebsebseb | I just want to run Choqok at the moment, so I am thinking do it in a vm of something | Mar 10 08:06 |
| abeNd-org | hrm, ill have to setup an identi.ca account then, ive got a service that mirrors my abend.org posts to twitter & facebook account already, ill have it do similar for identi.ca then | Mar 10 08:11 |
| sebsebseb | abeNd-org: ok sure, plus there's a feature on identica where dents can get sent to Twitter as well | Mar 10 08:13 |
| abeNd-org | its a yahoo service that replicates it actually, kinda amusing | Mar 10 08:13 |
| sebsebseb | oh? | Mar 10 08:14 |
| abeNd-org | lemme see if i can find that | Mar 10 08:16 |
| abeNd-org | bugger, swear i had it in my delicious | Mar 10 08:19 |
| sebsebseb | abeNd-org: anyway not getting mouse (or whatever) issues in Virtualbox right now it seem so :D | Mar 10 08:22 |
| abeNd-org | ah, here we are http://twitterfeed.com/ & http://pipes.yahoo.com/pipes/ | Mar 10 08:23 |
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| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Pipes: Rewire the web .::. Size~: 14.89 KB | Mar 10 08:23 |
| sebsebseb | and hopefuly the Choqok I install into the vm will work ok :) | Mar 10 08:23 |
| sebsebseb | abeNd-org: hmm they don't seem to have it yet | Mar 10 08:26 |
| abeNd-org | have what? | Mar 10 08:27 |
| sebsebseb | Choqok | Mar 10 08:28 |
| sebsebseb | abeNd-org: oh well i'll run it from something else in vm then | Mar 10 08:29 |
| sebsebseb | abeNd-org: Who are you anyway, I mean I seen you about before | Mar 10 08:33 |
| abeNd-org | yea, ive idled here for awhile, since i saw boycottnovell posting trackbacks on my site abend.org | Mar 10 08:36 |
| sebsebseb | oh? | Mar 10 08:37 |
| abeNd-org | figured i would contribute here what i could as well | Mar 10 08:37 |
| abeNd-org | im no troll or such, no worries | Mar 10 08:41 |
| sebsebseb | abeNd-org: yeah your no troll it seems | Mar 10 08:42 |
| abeNd-org | lol "it seems", well that makes me feel better :) | Mar 10 08:43 |
| abeNd-org | so you can feed identica with a twitter account? | Mar 10 08:44 |
| abeNd-org | slick, looks like it is connected, ill have to see how this works then (abendorg there) | Mar 10 08:45 |
| sebsebseb | abeNd-org: I think it's identica to Twitter only | Mar 10 08:46 |
| sebsebseb | abeNd-org: not the other way around as well, because of how Twitter is, you know commerical and that | Mar 10 08:46 |
| abeNd-org | ah, gotcha, ill have to use pipes then | Mar 10 08:48 |
| abeNd-org | meh, ill have to play with that later, this pesky thing called work keeps getting in the way | Mar 10 08:50 |
| abeNd-org | nice The database for Identi.ca isn't responding correctly, so the site won't work properly. | Mar 10 08:50 |
| sebsebseb | abeNd-org: oh? | Mar 10 08:51 |
| sebsebseb | qu1j0t3: about? | Mar 10 08:51 |
| qu1j0t3 | hi. | Mar 10 08:53 |
| sebsebseb | qu1j0t3: you know about Twiter and identica working together I guess? | Mar 10 08:53 |
| qu1j0t3 | only in the direction identi.ca copying messages to twitter. | Mar 10 08:54 |
| qu1j0t3 | since i mainly post on twitter, it doesn't make much diff to me | Mar 10 08:54 |
| abeNd-org | yea, ill just use pipes to have it feed off my site, like i have it doing for facebook/twitter already | Mar 10 08:55 |
| abeNd-org | kinda lame & i guess its "spamming" but it has brought my readership up a little :P | Mar 10 08:55 |
| qu1j0t3 | anyone know where schestowitz is? | Mar 10 08:56 |
| sebsebseb | qu1j0t3: yep | Mar 10 08:56 |
| sebsebseb | he's away | Mar 10 08:56 |
| sebsebseb | for two days or something | Mar 10 08:56 |
| sebsebseb | moving place and so changing ISP as well it seems | Mar 10 08:56 |
| sebsebseb | qu1j0t3: anyway good stuff in a way, he kind of needs a brake from the net anyway, way to addicted really | Mar 10 08:57 |
| qu1j0t3 | ah. | Mar 10 08:58 |
| qu1j0t3 | right. | Mar 10 08:58 |
| qu1j0t3 | yes, true. it feels good to get off the net sometimes. | Mar 10 08:58 |
| sebsebseb | qu1j0t3: yeah, but not for to long useually | Mar 10 08:59 |
| qu1j0t3 | heheh | Mar 10 09:02 |
| qu1j0t3 | i could give it up for a long time. I have about 300 paper books to read and 2000 ebooks to read. :D | Mar 10 09:03 |
| sebsebseb | qu1j0t3: for example I had two weeks without Internet summer 2009, even though where we were staying for part of that they had access as far as I know hmm | Mar 10 09:03 |
| sebsebseb | ,but anyway that was difficult at times | Mar 10 09:03 |
| sebsebseb | just boring you know, really boring | Mar 10 09:04 |
| qu1j0t3 | heh | Mar 10 09:04 |
| qu1j0t3 | take a book! | Mar 10 09:04 |
| sebsebseb | qu1j0t3: I did buy like one or two LInux magazines at the air port here though :D | Mar 10 09:04 |
| sebsebseb | so I won't completly switched off from the computer world | Mar 10 09:04 |
| sebsebseb | wasn't, ab ove | Mar 10 09:04 |
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| abeNd-org | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/02/22/germany_rejects_linux_in_favour_of_windows_xp/ | Mar 10 16:39 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: German Foreign Office kills desktop Linux, hugs Windows XP โข The Register .::. Size~: 21.75 KB | Mar 10 16:39 |
| oiaohm | abeNd-org: Ok when does XP end of life | Mar 10 17:04 |
| qu1j0t3 | it's been dead to me for years ;-) | Mar 10 17:59 |
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| MinceR | i guess they want to pay m$ another large sum of taxpayers' money with the rationale of "xp is EOL, gotta buy vista7 now!" | Mar 10 22:23 |
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| sebsebseb | oiaohm: April 2014 XP EOL unless they extend again | Mar 11 01:30 |
| nisshh | sebsebseb, i thought XP was EOL this year? | Mar 11 01:39 |
| MinceR | it's been supposed to be EOL for a long time | Mar 11 01:39 |
| MinceR | but m$ couldn't manage to bring out a version of winblows since that didn't suck more than it | Mar 11 01:40 |
| sebsebseb | nisshh: XP was meant to go end of life last year, but they extended it by four years, well that's SP3 only | Mar 11 01:40 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: yeah Vista is a pointless upgrade for most computer users, so is Windows 7 | Mar 11 01:40 |
| nisshh | oh, god, stupid MS | Mar 11 01:40 |
| sebsebseb | so will the next Windows really from a user point of view | Mar 11 01:41 |
| sebsebseb | ,but | Mar 11 01:41 |
| nisshh | why dont they just force everyone on to win7? | Mar 11 01:41 |
| sebsebseb | Microsoft will basically try and force loads of people to get that one I guess | Mar 11 01:41 |
| MinceR | they're trying | Mar 11 01:41 |
| sebsebseb | by making XP go EOL | Mar 11 01:41 |
| MinceR | but i guess they're afraid of the backlash | Mar 11 01:41 |
| MinceR | especially for big corporate clients | Mar 11 01:41 |
| sebsebseb | nisshh: they will try and force basically everyone using XP onto the next one I guess | Mar 11 01:41 |
| nisshh | MinceR, why dont they just say "If you arent using win7 by x date, then your all software pirates" | Mar 11 01:42 |
| MinceR | they're probably afraid of ending up pushing their clients to GNU/Linux instead | Mar 11 01:42 |
| MinceR | users will have to relearn the GUI anyway | Mar 11 01:42 |
| nisshh | heh, exactly | Mar 11 01:42 |
| MinceR | some apps and drivers will break anyway | Mar 11 01:42 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: 2014 probably quite a lot more people will go LInux | Mar 11 01:43 |
| sebsebseb | XP going end of life probably yep | Mar 11 01:43 |
| MinceR | also the hw requirements have been inflated again | Mar 11 01:43 |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: if it's going end of life, that is | Mar 11 01:43 |
| sebsebseb | and Desktop Linux being well so much better than it is now | Mar 11 01:43 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: yeah exaclyt if it is | Mar 11 01:43 |
| MinceR | what if m$ just caves and releases Windows XP 2? :> | Mar 11 01:43 |
| sebsebseb | they might have to extend for even longer | Mar 11 01:43 |
| MinceR | or Windows XP 2014? :> | Mar 11 01:43 |
| sebsebseb | unlikely, but they might extend the XP SP3 support for another four years or so | Mar 11 01:44 |
| sebsebseb | by 2018 most computers running XP will be rather well old | Mar 11 01:44 |
| nisshh | my parents are still running XP | Mar 11 01:44 |
| sebsebseb | there are still people running Windows 98 or ME today | Mar 11 01:44 |
| nisshh | its annoying as hell to reinstall every 6 weeks | Mar 11 01:45 |
| sebsebseb | probably quite a few running WIndows 95 still in fact, maybe | Mar 11 01:45 |
| sebsebseb | nisshh: my Mum could go Desktop Linux really I think, but she is untechnical and all that and | Mar 11 01:45 |
| sebsebseb | well | Mar 11 01:45 |
| sebsebseb | she has to use Microsoft Office or sort of anyway, because of work | Mar 11 01:45 |
| sebsebseb | ,but other then that, she's fine really with Desktop Linux 100% | Mar 11 01:46 |
| MinceR | m$o should run in wine already | Mar 11 01:46 |
| sebsebseb | I guess | Mar 11 01:46 |
| MinceR | OOo should be able to substitute for it anyway | Mar 11 01:46 |
| MinceR | so should LO | Mar 11 01:46 |
| nisshh | sebsebseb, yeah, the only thing stopping my parents from switching is my dad has to connect to his work server from a windows machine | Mar 11 01:46 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: yeah, but Outlook doesn't work so well in Wine I expect, which she uses now, but she doesn't really need Outlook | Mar 11 01:46 |
| sebsebseb | I think her lap top will still work in 2014 | Mar 11 01:46 |
| nisshh | since its windows server | Mar 11 01:46 |
| sebsebseb | and then hopefuly I can get her to go to some Linux distro when XP runs out of support | Mar 11 01:46 |
| sebsebseb | I am thinking | Mar 11 01:46 |
| MinceR | i know there are incompatibilities but m$o is incompatible with itself too, yet i don't hear its proponents complaining | Mar 11 01:47 |
| sebsebseb | plus my brothers will both have been using Linux for quite a while by then | Mar 11 01:47 |
| nisshh | atleast my sisters are partially using win7 now atleast | Mar 11 01:47 |
| nisshh | although it hasnt improved their computing habbits | Mar 11 01:47 |
| MinceR | then again m$o macros probably won't run in any other office suite | Mar 11 01:47 |
| sebsebseb | oh nisshh has sisters | Mar 11 01:47 |
| nisshh | sebsebseb, i have a brother and 2 sisters | Mar 11 01:48 |
| sebsebseb | nisshh no wonder you seem like a girl sometimes, when we chat on here :d | Mar 11 01:48 |
| nisshh | my brother actually runs #! | Mar 11 01:48 |
| MinceR | there are ways to use exchange from non-outlook mail clients, but i'm not sure how well they work (evolution didn't work so well for me) | Mar 11 01:48 |
| *nisshh slaps sebsebseb | Mar 11 01:48 | |
| MinceR | lol | Mar 11 01:48 |
| sebsebseb | nisshh: anyway seriously you seem like a guy on here | Mar 11 01:48 |
| nisshh | sebsebseb, i do NOT have manboobs | Mar 11 01:48 |
| nisshh | :) | Mar 11 01:48 |
| sebsebseb | how old are your siblings? and for which? | Mar 11 01:49 |
| nisshh | maybe thats because i am a guy? | Mar 11 01:49 |
| sebsebseb | my little brother wants a lap top next year | Mar 11 01:49 |
| nisshh | my bro is a year older than me | Mar 11 01:49 |
| nisshh | my sisters are 12-14 | Mar 11 01:49 |
| sebsebseb | ,but next Windows comes out towards the end of next year? Vista 2006 Windows 7 October 2009 | Mar 11 01:49 |
| nisshh | 12-15 sorry | Mar 11 01:49 |
| sebsebseb | nisshh: my older brother has Linux Mint on his lap top since Janurary and that's what he is using now, but he still wants to use a computer like a toaster | Mar 11 01:50 |
| MinceR | i see outlook has a garbage rating in the wine appdb | Mar 11 01:50 |
| sebsebseb | that's what he is using now when using that lap top, above | Mar 11 01:50 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: yep I have seen that long ago | Mar 11 01:50 |
| MinceR | and OWA itself is garbage too | Mar 11 01:50 |
| MinceR | misses stuff like search if not used from ie | Mar 11 01:51 |
| sebsebseb | OWA? Outlook Web Apps? | Mar 11 01:51 |
| MinceR | on ie, it relies on RadioActiveX | Mar 11 01:51 |
| MinceR | Outlook Web Access | Mar 11 01:51 |
| MinceR | my workaround would be putting winblows in a vm :> | Mar 11 01:51 |
| MinceR | it can do less damage from there | Mar 11 01:52 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: yeah XP vm, I got a reason to do one soon really, but haven't bothered yet | Mar 11 01:52 |
| MinceR | :> | Mar 11 01:52 |
| oiaohm | By the way its a little hard for MS to kill for XP since they only placed it in a virtual machine inside Windows 7 Pro. | Mar 11 02:10 |
| MinceR | for the users to use that they'd still have to buy vista7 and meet its inflated hw requirements | Mar 11 02:15 |
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| MinceR | 195901 < ToreadorVampire> ATTENTION iPHONE USERS | Mar 11 11:12 |
| MinceR | 195901 < ToreadorVampire> If the apple on the startup screen appears bitten that means you have a faulty phone and have to replace it with something better like a HTC Desire | Mar 11 11:12 |
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| schestowitz | oiaohm: I had another pass through the site http://schestowitz.com/c/ | Mar 13 07:12 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Schestowitz ยป Scientific Freedom .::. Size~: 19.55 KB | Mar 13 07:12 |
| schestowitz | Basically, if there's work or someone based in Australia, then you can get business | Mar 13 07:12 |
| schestowitz | I'm assuming qu1j0t3 and Quadrescence too as only implicitly included (not named) would be OK | Mar 13 07:13 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: Banner upto of site hope there is something else planed on there. | Mar 13 07:16 |
| oiaohm | Lot of screen space. in it for 2 lines of text. | Mar 13 07:17 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: banner is not final, not so polished either | Mar 13 07:18 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: and yes, it's short | Mar 13 07:18 |
| schestowitz | Cause it's more like a brochure | Mar 13 07:18 |
| schestowitz | Just something to have people get in touch for contract work | Mar 13 07:18 |
| oiaohm | Content is the hard bit. | Mar 13 07:25 |
| oiaohm | Its like a newpaper all the best hooks have to be on the front page. | Mar 13 07:25 |
| schestowitz | I put some image sliders | Mar 13 07:26 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: about marketing, without disclosing who the chat was with, here goes: | Mar 13 07:26 |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 13 07:26 |
| schestowitz | > Hi! | Mar 13 07:26 |
| schestowitz | Hello! Was wondering about you... | Mar 13 07:26 |
| schestowitz | Apologies for a belated response. I moved into the house on Tuesday and BT has not connected the broadband connection yet. I finally got a dongle, which allows me to use cellular networks to connect to the Internet in the interim. | Mar 13 07:26 |
| schestowitz | > Well, I imagine you're in the process of moving this week, and getting | Mar 13 07:26 |
| schestowitz | > things sorted out at your new home. Moving is always such an adventure. | Mar 13 07:26 |
| schestowitz | > From the picture you sent it looks like a nice comfortable place with lots | Mar 13 07:26 |
| schestowitz | > of light and space. | Mar 13 07:26 |
| schestowitz | Yes, it's nice! | Mar 13 07:26 |
| schestowitz | > Do you have a balcony too? If so, that could be a great place to have a nice | Mar 13 07:26 |
| schestowitz | > cup of tea on quiet sunny mornings, in the summertime. | Mar 13 07:26 |
| schestowitz | No balcony :-( :-( | Mar 13 07:26 |
| schestowitz | > For me, early mornings are the best time of day. Weather permitting, I | Mar 13 07:26 |
| schestowitz | > always spend some time outside, listening to the birds chirp and watching | Mar 13 07:26 |
| schestowitz | > the stars fade as the sun comes up. I especially love rainy mornings, but | Mar 13 07:26 |
| schestowitz | > they are very rare here (I imagine they're not quite so rare where you are). | Mar 13 07:26 |
| schestowitz | Rain is common enough here to be loathed :-) | Mar 13 07:26 |
| schestowitz | > Anyway, I have a little extra time this morning to catch up with emails. I | Mar 13 07:26 |
| schestowitz | > actually started writing this one last week, but never had time to properly | Mar 13 07:27 |
| schestowitz | > finish it up...so I'll try to get this sent today. | Mar 13 07:27 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 13 07:27 |
| schestowitz | > Before I go further though...You mentioned Nina Paley, and said you didn't | Mar 13 07:27 |
| schestowitz | > know what she looked like. lol - I can't believe I'm going to say this, | Mar 13 07:27 |
| schestowitz | > but... "Here, let me Google that for you." (Her picture is attached). | Mar 13 07:27 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 13 07:27 |
| schestowitz | > ;) | Mar 13 07:27 |
| schestowitz | Fantastic! Thanks. | Mar 13 07:27 |
| schestowitz | > What kept me from finishing this sooner were some rather astounding | Mar 13 07:27 |
| schestowitz | > statements you made in your last reply to me. Mostly because I couldn't be | Mar 13 07:27 |
| schestowitz | > sure how to take them or how to respond. Were they aimed at me? I couldn't | Mar 13 07:27 |
| schestowitz | > tell, really, but they did seem a little accusatory at first glance. | Mar 13 07:27 |
| schestowitz | I'm quite shocked if I said something upsetting? Who, me?! Must be just how it looks in text.. :-) | Mar 13 07:27 |
| schestowitz | > Since I know you'd never mean to be unkind, I decided to read them again and | Mar 13 07:27 |
| schestowitz | > think about my answers a little more before I wrote back. So, below are | Mar 13 07:27 |
| schestowitz | > those answers. | Mar 13 07:27 |
| schestowitz | Thanks, let me reread and respond. | Mar 13 07:27 |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 13 07:27 |
| sebsebseb | uh I have to guess who said what with that? | Mar 13 07:28 |
| sebsebseb | and what's that got to do with Mageia, I see nothing so far | Mar 13 07:28 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: ? | Mar 13 07:29 |
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| schestowitz | sebsebseb: yeah, just checking there's no identifying details... | Mar 13 07:38 |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 13 07:39 |
| schestowitz | > ...................................................... | Mar 13 07:39 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 13 07:39 |
| schestowitz | > ~ On the subject of Corporations vs. small, single-owner, independent | Mar 13 07:39 |
| schestowitz | > businesses... | Mar 13 07:39 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 13 07:39 |
| schestowitz | > You wrote: *"One's own business is also corporate. Contribution to society | Mar 13 07:39 |
| schestowitz | > cannot be measured in terms of money; sometimes the relation ends up an | Mar 13 07:39 |
| schestowitz | > inversion; richest people are often exploiting the most, suggests a lot of | Mar 13 07:39 |
| schestowitz | > evidence."* | Mar 13 07:40 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 13 07:40 |
| schestowitz | > I've mulled this over all week, and still am not quite sure how you might | Mar 13 07:40 |
| schestowitz | > have applied that statement to me. All I can conclude is that you've | Mar 13 07:40 |
| schestowitz | > somehow misunderstood something I've written to you. | Mar 13 07:40 |
| schestowitz | Oh, this was not said in reference to you. Relates to me and Satipera debating capitalism the other week... :-) | Mar 13 07:40 |
| schestowitz | > For the record, I am not a corporation. I have no CEO, COO, CFO, no Board | Mar 13 07:40 |
| schestowitz | > of Directors, or investors, or franchises, or much of anything, except a | Mar 13 07:40 |
| schestowitz | > studio in my home (which lately seems to have taken over the whole bloomin' | Mar 13 07:40 |
| schestowitz | > house...lol), a passel of rag-tag home-built computers...and some good | Mar 13 07:40 |
| schestowitz | > creative/artistic skills, and a good work-ethic. | Mar 13 07:40 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 13 07:40 |
| schestowitz | > Your concept that any business, no matter how small, is still a potentially | Mar 13 07:40 |
| schestowitz | > exploitative corporate entity, is rather astounding. From personal | Mar 13 07:40 |
| schestowitz | > experience, I know that it's not true. Small businesses are not the same as | Mar 13 07:40 |
| schestowitz | > corporations. In fact, I'd say that small businesses are the way things | Mar 13 07:40 |
| schestowitz | > SHOULD be. And traditionally, whenever cottage industries, and small | Mar 13 07:40 |
| schestowitz | > family-run businesses are able to flourish, the economy benefits greatly. | Mar 13 07:40 |
| schestowitz | Indeed! Sorry if I was misunderstood there. | Mar 13 07:40 |
| schestowitz | > ~ On the subject of PR... | Mar 13 07:40 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 13 07:40 |
| schestowitz | > You wrote: *"PR industry can be harmful. I have strong feelings on the | Mar 13 07:40 |
| schestowitz | > subject."* | Mar 13 07:40 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 13 07:40 |
| schestowitz | > I'm a little confused by why you wrote that to me. It's not that I disagree | Mar 13 07:40 |
| schestowitz | > with it, it's just that it has no relationship to what I do here. I also | Mar 13 07:40 |
| schestowitz | > think the words "*can be*" are the key. Just because something CAN be | Mar 13 07:40 |
| schestowitz | > abused, doesn't automatically mean it MUST be. | Mar 13 07:40 |
| schestowitz | It was not said in reference to anyone particular really. Did you see Hicks on marketing? That's what came to my mind at the time. | Mar 13 07:40 |
| schestowitz | > The thing is, you know how people tend to toss everything into one basket | Mar 13 07:40 |
| schestowitz | > and assume the basket defines it all. Like the term "IP", for example, | Mar 13 07:40 |
| schestowitz | > which covers a multitude of things (copyright, trademarks, patents, etc.) | Mar 13 07:40 |
| schestowitz | > which, as we both know, really shouldn't be lumped together. | Mar 13 07:40 |
| schestowitz | Good example. Personally, I can defend trademarks. I try not to say "IP". :-) | Mar 13 07:40 |
| schestowitz | > I don't do corporate-type "PR" for anyone...not even for my own business. | Mar 13 07:40 |
| schestowitz | > Heck, I'm not even listed in the local phone book. | Mar 13 07:40 |
| schestowitz | Oh, it was not said about you. I hadn't realised it could be interpreted this way. | Mar 13 07:40 |
| schestowitz | > But I DO help other small businesses to advertise locally. Now, I want you | Mar 13 07:40 |
| schestowitz | > to think about this part very carefully... | Mar 13 07:40 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 13 07:40 |
| schestowitz | > Although you are correct that all advertising is some form of "PR" - public | Mar 13 07:41 |
| schestowitz | > relations does not automatically mean something bad. Some corporations | Mar 13 07:41 |
| schestowitz | > abuse PR by using it to tell lies and white-wash their bad behavior towards | Mar 13 07:41 |
| schestowitz | > their customers. | Mar 13 07:41 |
| schestowitz | I view PR as an umbrella which includes lies too, e.g. sockpuppets :-) | Mar 13 07:41 |
| schestowitz | > But it's wrong to lump small businesses into that same basket with dishonest | Mar 13 07:41 |
| schestowitz | > crooks. Just like it's wrong to lump all air travelers in with terrorists, | Mar 13 07:41 |
| schestowitz | > or to lump all Internet customers in with "pirates". | Mar 13 07:41 |
| schestowitz | Indeed. | Mar 13 07:41 |
| schestowitz | > Small, independent businesses are generally built around "niche products" | Mar 13 07:41 |
| schestowitz | > [or services]. Even if the whole wide world knew about them, by their very | Mar 13 07:41 |
| schestowitz | > nature they'd still have a very limited customer base. Most of the ones I | Mar 13 07:41 |
| schestowitz | > deal with are service-based, so they don't need to reach the whole world, | Mar 13 07:41 |
| schestowitz | > they just need to reach their local neighborhoods. The likelihood of any of | Mar 13 07:41 |
| schestowitz | > them growing into a mega-corp is very slim, most of them just want to make a | Mar 13 07:41 |
| schestowitz | > living by doing their own thing. | Mar 13 07:41 |
| schestowitz | I agree entirely. | Mar 13 07:41 |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 13 07:41 |
| nisshh | schestowitz, ever heard of pastebin? its a wonderful concept :) | Mar 13 07:42 |
| sebsebseb | heh @ nisshh | Mar 13 07:42 |
| nisshh | read: USE PASTEBIN FFS! | Mar 13 07:42 |
| nisshh | :) | Mar 13 07:42 |
| MinceR | :> | Mar 13 07:42 |
| sebsebseb | nisshh: he does a lot of this here, copys in stuff, that he could pastebin instead | Mar 13 07:43 |
| nisshh | sebsebseb, s/could/should/must/ | Mar 13 07:43 |
| sebsebseb | nisshh: uh? | Mar 13 07:43 |
| sebsebseb | what you mean? | Mar 13 07:43 |
| nisshh | sebsebseb, you dont know what s/// is do you? | Mar 13 07:44 |
| sebsebseb | nisshh: indeed | Mar 13 07:44 |
| MinceR | you used it incorrectly anyway :> | Mar 13 07:44 |
| nisshh | MinceR, now now, dont be a smartass | Mar 13 07:44 |
| MinceR | :> | Mar 13 07:44 |
| nisshh | MinceR, i know how to use it right, but i had to add the must on the end :) | Mar 13 07:45 |
| sebsebseb | what does :> mean whilst I am at it, I mean I know it's meant to be some sort of face, but what? | Mar 13 07:45 |
| MinceR | nisshh: you could have escaped the second / :> | Mar 13 07:45 |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: pointed smiley | Mar 13 07:45 |
| sebsebseb | which means what? | Mar 13 07:46 |
| nisshh | MinceR, let me refer you to what i said about being a smartass :) | Mar 13 07:46 |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: with a bit of malice or mischief :> | Mar 13 07:46 |
| sebsebseb | oh | Mar 13 07:46 |
| sebsebseb | well then uhmm | Mar 13 07:46 |
| sebsebseb | nisshh = :> at times :D | Mar 13 07:46 |
| nisshh | sebsebseb, heh, always :) | Mar 13 07:46 |
| schestowitz | nisshh: heh | Mar 13 07:47 |
| schestowitz | Anyway, sebsebseb, you now see what I mean by marketing... | Mar 13 07:48 |
| schestowitz | The context being size and cause | Mar 13 07:48 |
| schestowitz | Here's the remainder (last bit) | Mar 13 07:48 |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 13 07:48 |
| schestowitz | > These small businesses do not have the resources to buy billboards, or to | Mar 13 07:48 |
| schestowitz | > hire expensive ad agency/PR/marketing firms, they just need some simple | Mar 13 07:48 |
| schestowitz | > visual materials to help their potential customers to find them. That's it, | Mar 13 07:48 |
| schestowitz | > that's all. | Mar 13 07:48 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 13 07:48 |
| schestowitz | > I provide them with design and writing skills, and help them find the best, | Mar 13 07:48 |
| schestowitz | > inexpensive printing services. Small businesses deserve the ability to tell | Mar 13 07:48 |
| schestowitz | > people what they do and what value they offer, without having to pay huge | Mar 13 07:49 |
| schestowitz | > amounts of money. Don't you think? | Mar 13 07:49 |
| schestowitz | Yes, it's when they go rogue with sockpuppets and fake reviews that this becomes a major issue. | Mar 13 07:49 |
| schestowitz | > The truth is, it's a serious struggle for small businesses to get their | Mar 13 07:49 |
| schestowitz | > voices heard over all the noise made by the big corporate chains and | Mar 13 07:49 |
| schestowitz | > franchises. Not everyone has the time or know-how to do it for themselves. | Mar 13 07:49 |
| schestowitz | > Printed information can still be a powerful way to communicate with a local | Mar 13 07:49 |
| schestowitz | > community. Believe it or not, brochures, flyers, even cleverly designed | Mar 13 07:49 |
| schestowitz | > business cards can help tremendously. | Mar 13 07:49 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 13 07:49 |
| schestowitz | > Now, you're probably thinking that small business owners should just put up | Mar 13 07:49 |
| schestowitz | > a website. Because 'print' advertising is dead, after all...right? Also, | Mar 13 07:49 |
| schestowitz | > printing kills trees, etc, etc. And I'd agree with that. | Mar 13 07:49 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 13 07:49 |
| schestowitz | > But around here we have a large population of older people, especially | Mar 13 07:49 |
| schestowitz | > during the winter months (we call them snowbirds, because they come here in | Mar 13 07:49 |
| schestowitz | > the wintertime to get away from the snow back East). Most have cell phones | Mar 13 07:49 |
| schestowitz | > these days, but not necessarily smart phones, and they don't trust or use | Mar 13 07:49 |
| schestowitz | > the Internet like younger folks do. Old people like printed things because | Mar 13 07:49 |
| schestowitz | > they are easier to read than cell phones, and can be carried around with | Mar 13 07:49 |
| schestowitz | > them. Don't ask me why, 'cause I don't know. I just know that some older | Mar 13 07:49 |
| schestowitz | > people like to keep and carry stuff (especially coupons) around with them - | Mar 13 07:49 |
| schestowitz | > I know, it sounds funny, but it's true. | Mar 13 07:49 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 13 07:49 |
| schestowitz | > I've also seen the over-all print-advertising business dwindle massively | Mar 13 07:49 |
| schestowitz | > over the last 20 years. However, that very death-spiral trend has also been | Mar 13 07:49 |
| schestowitz | > a boon for me, since fewer people are now providing those services. I am | Mar 13 07:49 |
| schestowitz | > one of the few around here that can still do things the old-fashioned way | Mar 13 07:49 |
| schestowitz | > (ink and paint and pencil, etc), as well as do computer graphics and create | Mar 13 07:49 |
| schestowitz | > digital files - so there is always been plenty of work available, as long as | Mar 13 07:49 |
| *nisshh headdesks | Mar 13 07:49 | |
| schestowitz | > I keep prices affordable, which I do. | Mar 13 07:49 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 13 07:49 |
| schestowitz | > And it really doesn't matter to me if 'for-print' work doesn't last much | Mar 13 07:49 |
| schestowitz | > longer, 'cuz I'm ready to retire from all of it anyway. Only 8 months | Mar 13 07:49 |
| schestowitz | > left...yay! | Mar 13 07:49 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 13 07:49 |
| schestowitz | > As for having contracts with corporations in the past, it's true, that was | Mar 13 07:49 |
| sebsebseb | nisshh: yeah I know what you mean | Mar 13 07:49 |
| schestowitz | > how I got started many years ago. | Mar 13 07:49 |
| schestowitz | Yes, many people have. The problem is not advertising; it's certain types of PR and those who actually demand it, not those who do the job, either (although if one operates sock-puppets, that someone should be ashamed of oneself). PJ likes to use the term "yuppie defence" in this context. | Mar 13 07:49 |
| schestowitz | > My illustrations have been in a LOT of educational books over the years, and | Mar 13 07:49 |
| schestowitz | > I'm proud of the work I did, but the big educational publishers I once | Mar 13 07:50 |
| schestowitz | > worked for became impossible to deal with. Sometime around 1999 and 2000, | Mar 13 07:50 |
| MinceR | holy wall of text, batman! | Mar 13 07:50 |
| schestowitz | > it all changed (and not for the better). I continued to accept a few | Mar 13 07:50 |
| schestowitz | > illustration contracts after that, but also began cultivating independent | Mar 13 07:50 |
| schestowitz | > local business clients, so I could phase out the rotten corporate stuff. | Mar 13 07:50 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 13 07:50 |
| schestowitz | > With keeping my business geared towards small local, independent businesses, | Mar 13 07:50 |
| schestowitz | > over the last decade, many of my long-term regular clients have become | Mar 13 07:50 |
| schestowitz | > trusted, and treasured, personal friends. | Mar 13 07:50 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 13 07:50 |
| schestowitz | > And that defines (quite clearly, in my view) the VAST difference between a | Mar 13 07:50 |
| schestowitz | > Corporation, and a small, independent "mom & pop" business (like mine). | Mar 13 07:50 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 13 07:50 |
| schestowitz | > To an ever growing number of large Corporations "Trust" is merely a PR word | Mar 13 07:50 |
| schestowitz | > with no real meaning, they use it to abuse their Relationship with their | Mar 13 07:50 |
| schestowitz | > Public. So, in that respect, I don't do PR. | Mar 13 07:50 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 13 07:50 |
| schestowitz | > I'd like you to understand that...because if you continue to equate my | Mar 13 07:50 |
| schestowitz | > business with evil, lying corporations, I shall be very peeved at you. (I'm | Mar 13 07:50 |
| schestowitz | > giving you a friendly smile here, but I'm also serious) | Mar 13 07:50 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 13 07:50 |
| schestowitz | > I do have a business partner in a separate endeavor. But we formed a small | Mar 13 07:50 |
| schestowitz | > LLC company so we could keep our business relationship properly documented | Mar 13 07:50 |
| nisshh | sebsebseb, i think we should just swap schestowitz with an IRC bot that pastebin's :) | Mar 13 07:50 |
| schestowitz | > as separate from our personal business, and to be able to meet the | Mar 13 07:50 |
| schestowitz | > guidelines for hospitals (and their stupid purchasing departments) to buy | Mar 13 07:50 |
| schestowitz | > our childrens medical books (which are given to the children for free). So, | Mar 13 07:50 |
| schestowitz | > maybe you can find some 'evil corporate exploitation' issues there, I dunno. | Mar 13 07:50 |
| schestowitz | I remembers those good examples and they very much differ from what I think of when I say "PR". | Mar 13 07:50 |
| schestowitz | > You wrote: *"Money does not go with a person after his/her death; artful | Mar 13 07:50 |
| schestowitz | > work and reputation, however, last very long. So monetary excess has little | Mar 13 07:50 |
| schestowitz | > practical value in the long term. Among my great ancestors (4 generations | Mar 13 07:50 |
| schestowitz | > upwards) I know only a few, and not for achievements related to wealth."* | Mar 13 07:50 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 13 07:50 |
| schestowitz | > In this, you are absolutely correct. | Mar 13 07:50 |
| schestowitz | Thankfully; this is the past which I thought would be controversial. :-) | Mar 13 07:50 |
| schestowitz | > I live quite modestly in a very old house, and drive a 15 year-old car. I | Mar 13 07:50 |
| schestowitz | > don't accumulate much, having a tendency to give my stuff away to people who | Mar 13 07:50 |
| schestowitz | > might need it more than I do. | Mar 13 07:50 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 13 07:50 |
| schestowitz | > I also have people who depend on me, so I need to keep working for a while | Mar 13 07:50 |
| sebsebseb | nisshh: or get a bot in here that get's ops, that kicks him everytime he floods :D problem is I think only schestowitz has op here by default | Mar 13 07:51 |
| schestowitz | > longer...otherwise I'd have retired months ago. So money is important to me | Mar 13 07:51 |
| schestowitz | > only as far as it keeps loved-ones fed, housed and cared-for. I really | Mar 13 07:51 |
| schestowitz | > don't need much for myself. | Mar 13 07:51 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 13 07:51 |
| schestowitz | > If I have any money left over when I die, I'd be happy that it might help my | Mar 13 07:51 |
| schestowitz | > kids in some small way. Other than that, I mostly don't care about it. | Mar 13 07:51 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 13 07:51 |
| schestowitz | > Your term "*monetary excess*" really has no relationship to anything in my | Mar 13 07:51 |
| schestowitz | > life...in fact, if I ever found myself with a sudden pile of excess money, | Mar 13 07:51 |
| schestowitz | > I'd probably just keel over and die from pure shock. lol | Mar 13 07:51 |
| schestowitz | *LOL* Well, I was thinking of the hoarders who 'own' the US. IIRC, the top 400 "rich list" folks in the US own about as much as half the population combined. | Mar 13 07:51 |
| schestowitz | > Look, I know that TV and movies from the US tend to depict us all (to the | Mar 13 07:51 |
| schestowitz | > rest of the world) as culturally shallow, money-grubbing, materialistic, | Mar 13 07:51 |
| schestowitz | > empty-headed, war-mongering, wealth-worshiping, | Mar 13 07:51 |
| schestowitz | > sheep-like-slaves-to-corporate-consumerism - but that's less than accurate. | Mar 13 07:51 |
| schestowitz | Yes, I know. Huge disparity, among the worst in the world. WI can start something ;-) | Mar 13 07:51 |
| schestowitz | > There are certainly those elements here, but there are also LOTS of people | Mar 13 07:51 |
| schestowitz | > and groups that are a bit more grounded in their actions (beliefs, | Mar 13 07:51 |
| schestowitz | > behaviors, values, etc.), that don't have movies or TV shows made about | Mar 13 07:51 |
| schestowitz | > them, and rarely make the mainstream news. On the whole, we work hard, we | Mar 13 07:51 |
| nisshh | sebsebseb, hehe | Mar 13 07:51 |
| schestowitz | > love Freedom, we form our own networking/communities and help each other | Mar 13 07:51 |
| schestowitz | > out. | Mar 13 07:51 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 13 07:51 |
| schestowitz | > lol, we are many...we are anonymous...we are everywhere. (haha...I was | Mar 13 07:51 |
| schestowitz | > chuckling as I typed that) | Mar 13 07:51 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 13 07:51 |
| schestowitz | > Ok, I've been writing on this in bits and pieces, off and on, all day | Mar 13 07:51 |
| schestowitz | > long...I started at 7:00am, and it's nearly 5:00pm now. As a result, I've | Mar 13 07:51 |
| schestowitz | > written WAY too much again, I'd better stop for now and get this sent | Mar 13 07:51 |
| schestowitz | > (otherwise you might think I've permanently taken my headphones off.) | Mar 13 07:51 |
| schestowitz | *LOL* That's fantastic. It's good to have a friend like you !! | Mar 13 07:51 |
| schestowitz | > Please don't feel that I was angry, or upset with you for anything you wrote | Mar 13 07:51 |
| schestowitz | > to me. I was just dismayed that you seemed to have preconceived notions | Mar 13 07:51 |
| schestowitz | > about me that were inaccurate. That part did make me feel bad (but I'm | Mar 13 07:51 |
| schestowitz | > fine, so no worries). | Mar 13 07:51 |
| schestowitz | I feel bad only cause I was misunderstood. What I do, too, is a form of marketing, e.g. of Linux. | Mar 13 07:51 |
| schestowitz | > I hope your move went smoothly, and that everything's unpacked and you are | Mar 13 07:51 |
| schestowitz | > enjoying your new home! | Mar 13 07:51 |
| schestowitz | I'll send you photos soon, I hope. | Mar 13 07:51 |
| schestowitz | > As always, please take good care of yourself, | Mar 13 07:51 |
| schestowitz | > Best wishes and big smiles to you, | Mar 13 07:52 |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 13 07:52 |
| schestowitz | That's it, though | Mar 13 07:52 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb mentioned marketing his distro | Mar 13 07:52 |
| schestowitz | nisshh: sorry about that, won't happen again | Mar 13 07:52 |
| sebsebseb | nisshh: and he expects me to read all that, in the horrible IRC text format? This is worse than me doing loads of lines in channels :D | Mar 13 07:52 |
| schestowitz | I don't | Mar 13 07:52 |
| schestowitz | Buy I have route for opping self | Mar 13 07:52 |
| schestowitz | And [H]omer has that in #boycottnovell | Mar 13 07:52 |
| *nisshh refrains from stabbing schestowitz repeatedly | Mar 13 07:52 | |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: just got a message back from a friend who can help earn clients.. | Mar 13 07:52 |
| nisshh | schestowitz, heh, its ok :) | Mar 13 07:53 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: his distro? uh not quite, I mean I run PC Linux OS on here, and it seems it's going to take quite a bit to get rid of it, and the other computer will stay Mandriva, and well Mageia will be a virtual machine distro at first | Mar 13 07:53 |
| schestowitz | His sister is a friend of mine... | Mar 13 07:53 |
| nisshh | sebsebseb, hehe | Mar 13 07:53 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: anyway Mageia should be great in about two years time, and it's nice to be invovled with a distro from the beginning :) | Mar 13 07:53 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: do you? | Mar 13 07:53 |
| schestowitz | how's it working? | Mar 13 07:53 |
| schestowitz | I was just writing about it in relation to Mint | Mar 13 07:53 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: it's server admin stuff | Mar 13 07:54 |
| schestowitz | > sorry for the delay, Neil is now back from the Caribbean. He has asked | Mar 13 07:54 |
| schestowitz | > that I send you his phone number . This is xxxxxx | Mar 13 07:54 |
| schestowitz | > I hope that you are well. | Mar 13 07:54 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: well issues with choqok and kapman sadly, but other then that it's ok. oh and it would have been nice to have a old GNome Shell in repo, but no they are about having stable software, but i'll do the jhbuild from upstream Gnome when I bother | Mar 13 07:54 |
| *schestowitz still afraid of starting choqok | Mar 13 07:54 | |
| sebsebseb | why? | Mar 13 07:55 |
| sebsebseb | so for now it's back to looking at the website for old dents :( | Mar 13 07:55 |
| schestowitz | It'll get me addicted | Mar 13 07:55 |
| sebsebseb | and denting from Elmdentica and Pinio | Mar 13 07:55 |
| schestowitz | I'll respond, and then they'll respond, and... | Mar 13 07:55 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: yeah indeed | Mar 13 07:55 |
| schestowitz | Can't do 200 dents a day right now... | Mar 13 07:55 |
| schestowitz | If I click the green bird, I know the day will be unproductive | Mar 13 07:55 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: heh | Mar 13 07:56 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: well without you denting I can at least, follow other peoples old dents, easier | Mar 13 07:56 |
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| sebsebseb | all I need is a client that works, and will show 1000 dents in a timeline and :) ,but what | Mar 13 07:56 |
| sebsebseb | Choqok was one, but issues with it like I siad | Mar 13 07:56 |
| sebsebseb | Elmdentica isn't it, that's a very basic client in fact, apparnatly for small screens and blah de blah even, it's ok | Mar 13 07:57 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: I'm rethinking my use of microblogs | Mar 13 07:58 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: Nice. Money is money. | Mar 13 07:58 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: oh? | Mar 13 07:58 |
| schestowitz | I am not stopping, just rethinking how I use time with it | Mar 13 07:58 |
| sebsebseb | yeah you became a right addict | Mar 13 07:58 |
| schestowitz | For example, maybe less politics, less RTs; not sure yet... | Mar 13 07:58 |
| sebsebseb | truse most of your dents were polotics, and I was like uh to them, as in not interested in most of them | Mar 13 07:58 |
| schestowitz | But while I'm on mobile broadband I can't quite resume due to bandwidth | Mar 13 07:59 |
| schestowitz | But a lot of Linux news too.... it's now Android and Ubuntu | Mar 13 07:59 |
| schestowitz | I'm tired of promoting these silly brands{tm} | Mar 13 07:59 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: stop the Ubuntu dents :) | Mar 13 07:59 |
| schestowitz | They have enough budget to promote their lame Rights(R) and Trademarks(TM) | Mar 13 07:59 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: I might... | Mar 13 08:00 |
| sebsebseb | yeah exactly with Ubuntu well the direction is going hmm | Mar 13 08:00 |
| sebsebseb | and | Mar 13 08:00 |
| sebsebseb | there are plenty of fan boys and so on, that will do it anyway | Mar 13 08:00 |
| schestowitz | I can write more TR posts | Mar 13 08:00 |
| sebsebseb | as for Android, well it's Google so they are hyped up a lot | Mar 13 08:00 |
| schestowitz | At the expense of a few of the other activities | Mar 13 08:00 |
| sebsebseb | they don't need you promoting Android | Mar 13 08:00 |
| schestowitz | Android is massive now | Mar 13 08:00 |
| sebsebseb | exactly | Mar 13 08:00 |
| schestowitz | I'm not being no fanboi of that | Mar 13 08:01 |
| sebsebseb | Meego and WebOS could do with you denting about them at times though :) | Mar 13 08:01 |
| schestowitz | Unless it's cynogenmode | Mar 13 08:01 |
| sebsebseb | oh and Mageia of course :) | Mar 13 08:01 |
| sebsebseb | and to the group! | Mar 13 08:01 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2011/03/03/rogue-ipr-games/#comments | Mar 13 08:01 |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 13 08:01 |
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| schestowitz | Confirmation of Nokia's role comes from PJ's examination of <a href="http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/924613/000095012311024458/u10545e20vf.htm" rel="nofollow">Nokia's SEC filing</a>. She quotes the relevant parts in her news picks. | Mar 13 08:01 |
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| schestowitz | <blockquote>- Definitive agreements with Microsoft for the proposed partnership may not be entered into in a timely manner, or at all, or on terms beneficial to us. | Mar 13 08:01 |
| schestowitz | - New sources of revenue expected to be generated from the Microsoft partnership, such as increased monetization opportunities for us in services and intellectual property rights, may not materialize as expected, or at all. | Mar 13 08:01 |
| schestowitz | [PJ: So, they haven't signed on the dotted line yet, this is saying. And I gather they hope to sue people or threaten to do so to get royalties on patents. Blech. Can't Microsoft ever do anything *not* evil?] - Nokia's Form 20F, SEC</blockquote> | Mar 13 08:01 |
| schestowitz | I think she hit the nail on the head. We can conclude that all of the damage to Nokia is real but Microsoft's promises are vapor. Perhaps there is resistance in the company beyond the thousands of engineers who walked off the job in protest. | Mar 13 08:01 |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 13 08:01 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: yes, maybe | Mar 13 08:02 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: plus your not really that keen on the direction of Ubuntu yourself, I think | Mar 13 08:02 |
| sebsebseb | so why bother denting about it? | Mar 13 08:02 |
| schestowitz | But give me a few days to finish my current project before I get a BT/O2 wired connection and then I'll resume | Mar 13 08:02 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: and I meant completly stop denting about Ubuntu, and if you want Android as well | Mar 13 08:02 |
| schestowitz | Heh. Not even Canonical staff is entirely happy with the direction | Mar 13 08:02 |
| schestowitz | A few of them dissented | Mar 13 08:03 |
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| sebsebseb | nisshh is wondering about their direction now as well I think :D | Mar 13 08:03 |
| schestowitz | [H]omer did a post about it | Mar 13 08:03 |
| schestowitz | http://slated.org/copygate_exposes_ugly_ubuntu | Mar 13 08:03 |
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| schestowitz | It's well written | Mar 13 08:03 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: the Maryland LOCO leader, is quiting doing that | Mar 13 08:04 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: hmm that | Mar 13 08:04 |
| sebsebseb | uhmm | Mar 13 08:04 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: maybe I saw that before, but I remember this | Mar 13 08:04 |
| sebsebseb | basically my ISP is blocked from going on that, because they might spy on what people go on or whatever | Mar 13 08:05 |
| sebsebseb | and then goes to a page explaining about things | Mar 13 08:05 |
| schestowitz | Some canonical staff too, but no defection | Mar 13 08:05 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: in fact if your on BT you would probably get the page I got | Mar 13 08:05 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: when going on the link you just gave | Mar 13 08:05 |
| sebsebseb | basically says the ISP is blocked from going on it, and redirects to a page explaining about things | Mar 13 08:06 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: yep this is the page I get instead after the redirect, have a look I guess. http://www.inphormationdesk.org/ | Mar 13 08:07 |
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| sebsebseb | schestowitz: anyway it's strange for a website to redirect certain ISP's to another website | Mar 13 08:09 |
| schestowitz | LOL | Mar 13 08:16 |
| schestowitz | I guess I should try to get out of the BT agreement, which was verbal only | Mar 13 08:17 |
| schestowitz | But they could try to delay line transfer then, to retaliate | Mar 13 08:17 |
| schestowitz | I'll go to O2 tomorrow and see if they can take over the line before BT's package arrives | Mar 13 08:17 |
| schestowitz | BTW, Virgin and Sky mailed me brochures without me ever asking. How's Virgin if you don't need cable and other 'noise'? | Mar 13 08:18 |
| sebsebseb | nisshh: I am looking at old dents | Mar 13 08:30 |
| sebsebseb | nisshh: and well.. | Mar 13 08:30 |
| sebsebseb | nisshh: http://identi.ca/notice/66816595 | Mar 13 08:31 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @Lรยกszlรยณ Torma (toros)'s status on Saturday, 12-Mar-11 15:00:32 UTC - Identi.ca: Ryan Macnish' *lightbulb* moment: "I should just stick with Ubuntu" http://goo.gl/EwNVA !u | Mar 13 08:31 |
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| *schestowitz tries to stay alert after just 3 hours of sleep last night | Mar 13 08:31 | |
| schestowitz | nice being so close to city centre, finally... Had some friends come over last night, had bottles of wine, then headed to local bar and night club at Deansgate. Got back after 4... | Mar 13 08:33 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: ok so that's why you moved, to be nearer to the centre? | Mar 13 08:34 |
| schestowitz | Not the main consideration | Mar 13 08:34 |
| nisshh | sebsebseb, yeah, i did a post, which most people misinterpreted | Mar 13 08:42 |
| nisshh | i didnt actually know anyone had dented about it though | Mar 13 08:42 |
| schestowitz | I'm getting a little upset about Ubuntu | Mar 13 08:44 |
| schestowitz | I'll do a post about Mint to promote Clem art their expense | Mar 13 08:44 |
| nisshh | sebsebseb, please dont think that that post has anything to do with techrights, it was nothing to do with that | Mar 13 08:44 |
| schestowitz | Nobody needs Ubuntu, they can use Mint, it's a lot better too | Mar 13 08:44 |
| nisshh | sebsebseb, basically, that post was me simply realising that i didnt need to worry about Ubuntu's defaults or canonical's antics, i have no need of the defaults, i can run whatever i like | Mar 13 08:47 |
| nisshh | i was attempting to explain a moral dilemma | Mar 13 08:48 |
| nisshh | it didnt work out how i expected though | Mar 13 08:48 |
| nisshh | people took it the wrong way, as often happens with blog posts | Mar 13 08:48 |
| sebsebseb | nisshh: heh Techrights influenceing (I think the word is) your opinions a bit, did come to mind, but hey so what if it's true :D | Mar 13 08:57 |
| sebsebseb | also not just anyone dented that | Mar 13 08:58 |
| sebsebseb | that was toros the http://webupd8.org guy | Mar 13 08:58 |
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| sebsebseb | nisshh: and he goes by the name Andrew on there | Mar 13 08:59 |
| sebsebseb | nisshh: people misunderstood your blog post? | Mar 13 08:59 |
| sebsebseb | seemed fine to me | Mar 13 08:59 |
| sebsebseb | you were wondering if you should stay invovled with Ubuntu or, well get more invovled with other distro's | Mar 13 08:59 |
| sebsebseb | basicalley | Mar 13 08:59 |
| sebsebseb | nisshh: I don't know if you have seen any of it, but this past week | Mar 13 09:00 |
| sebsebseb | there has been like fighting beetween, Canonical, Gnome, and KDE | Mar 13 09:00 |
| sebsebseb | or Canonical and Gnome really | Mar 13 09:00 |
| sebsebseb | Canonical, Ubuntu, and Gnome | Mar 13 09:00 |
| oiaohm | There is a tradition 3 way fight. | Mar 13 09:00 |
| oiaohm | KDE Gnome Freedesktop. | Mar 13 09:01 |
| schestowitz | yeah | Mar 13 09:01 |
| schestowitz | and with MarkS | Mar 13 09:01 |
| schestowitz | Over his choice of GNOME for Ubuntu | Mar 13 09:01 |
| schestowitz | KDE never got over it | Mar 13 09:01 |
| oiaohm | Really I might do a blog post. | Mar 13 09:01 |
| schestowitz | His decision may have broken some spirits in KDE | Mar 13 09:01 |
| oiaohm | covering how freedesktop is designed to work. | Mar 13 09:01 |
| oiaohm | There are particular reasons why its not a standard body. | Mar 13 09:01 |
| sebsebseb | nisshh: yeah and it's to do with freedesktop standards as well | Mar 13 09:01 |
| oiaohm | And there are particular reason why it has a designed in steam roller. | Mar 13 09:02 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: also indeed to what you said earlier, Mint is a lot better | Mar 13 09:02 |
| oiaohm | sebsebseb: Do you understand how freedeskop is ment to work. | Mar 13 09:02 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: tried it yet? | Mar 13 09:02 |
| sebsebseb | oh sure right now they got their main version based on Ubuntu, but it's not like they need to be based on Ubuntu, the Debian based version hs been out for quite a while now | Mar 13 09:02 |
| oiaohm | Freedesktop is a place for draft standards. | Mar 13 09:02 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: uh I told you about this stuff already I belive | Mar 13 09:02 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: how when I picked distro's back in Jan | Mar 13 09:02 |
| sebsebseb | for my older brother's lap top | Mar 13 09:03 |
| oiaohm | The idea is if you don't like a draft standard you are ment to put up a counter standard. sebsebseb | Mar 13 09:03 |
| sebsebseb | how I went with Linux Mint 9 based on Ubuntu 10.04 in the end | Mar 13 09:03 |
| oiaohm | If you cannot put up a counter standard your reason for rejection must not be strong enough. | Mar 13 09:03 |
| oiaohm | Notice what Gnome has not been doing. | Mar 13 09:03 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: plus I had virtual machined Mint before that in the past, but back then found it kind of pointless, since I thought best to use the original product Ubuntu, but oh how times have changed | Mar 13 09:03 |
| oiaohm | Leaving it to KDE to submit standards and not Submitting any of there own. | Mar 13 09:03 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: wb | Mar 13 09:04 |
| oiaohm | Of course KDE is pissed. | Mar 13 09:04 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: nisshh Mint is great, takes everything I like from Ubuntu, and gives it nicer artwork and makes it more user friendly as wel the Mint menu and such. | Mar 13 09:04 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: nisshh and then of course Linux Mint Debian Edition as well, which I knew about before the offical annoucement, but still haven't virtual machined hmm | Mar 13 09:04 |
| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: thanks | Mar 13 09:04 |
| sebsebseb | I closed it down earlier, but there was a great | Mar 13 09:05 |
| sebsebseb | blog post on this subject | Mar 13 09:05 |
| sebsebseb | hmm | Mar 13 09:05 |
| schestowitz | I work at Manchester University clusters to get heavy work done pretty quickly. Next week I'll be mostly away, still. | Mar 13 09:05 |
| sebsebseb | and good comments, lets see if I can get on that again | Mar 13 09:05 |
| sebsebseb | should be able to do | Mar 13 09:05 |
| sebsebseb | I bookmark pretty much everything I go on for a start | Mar 13 09:05 |
| schestowitz | use "History" | Mar 13 09:05 |
| schestowitz | Can be searched, too | Mar 13 09:05 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: uh your job is at Manchester University? I thought you were just a ex student or something of it? | Mar 13 09:05 |
| schestowitz | Google too makes bookmarks closer to obsolete | Mar 13 09:06 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: no, it's a long story | Mar 13 09:06 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: true history can be searched to, and my bookmarks list is rather long | Mar 13 09:06 |
| sebsebseb | my current one | Mar 13 09:06 |
| schestowitz | But the plan is basically going to the gym every day around 7, then to the clusters at 9. | Mar 13 09:06 |
| schestowitz | Leaves too little for blogging | Mar 13 09:06 |
| schestowitz | Which is a hobby | Mar 13 09:07 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: remember Web directories? | Mar 13 09:07 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: stop promoting Ubuntu on identica then like I said earlier, and Android even whilst your at if you want, and yep less polices | Mar 13 09:07 |
| schestowitz | Like DMOZ and Yahoo? | Mar 13 09:07 |
| schestowitz | Who ever uses these anymore? | Mar 13 09:07 |
| sebsebseb | Yahoo sure, and uhmm Dmoz runs Yahoo? something ran Yahoo | Mar 13 09:07 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: probably | Mar 13 09:07 |
| oiaohm | Yahoo is basically gutted. | Mar 13 09:07 |
| schestowitz | gutted=Microsoft? | Mar 13 09:08 |
| sebsebseb | http://altavista.com still around for now :) | Mar 13 09:08 |
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| sebsebseb | however | Mar 13 09:08 |
| sebsebseb | that's Yahoo search with differnet branding now | Mar 13 09:08 |
| sebsebseb | I read I guess it was last year, that they would get rid of it | Mar 13 09:08 |
| sebsebseb | http://altavista.co.uk | Mar 13 09:08 |
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| oiaohm | schestowitz: basically giving up there search engine for the MS that does not work. | Mar 13 09:08 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: basically ruined yahoo. | Mar 13 09:08 |
| sebsebseb | the other search enginges hardly matter now really, since yep Google | Mar 13 09:08 |
| sebsebseb | most web users use Google, and well that's that | Mar 13 09:09 |
| sebsebseb | well maybe not in China? | Mar 13 09:09 |
| oiaohm | China internal search engine is about the only one now who standard a chance going head to head with google. | Mar 13 09:09 |
| MinceR | baidu? | Mar 13 09:10 |
| oiaohm | baidu yep that is the one. | Mar 13 09:10 |
| oiaohm | They are still developing new search methods that works. | Mar 13 09:11 |
| oiaohm | MS has basically been caught coping. | Mar 13 09:11 |
| MinceR | are they relevant outside red china? | Mar 13 09:11 |
| oiaohm | Currently no. | Mar 13 09:11 |
| oiaohm | but at least they are still improving there engine. MinceR | Mar 13 09:11 |
| MinceR | ic | Mar 13 09:11 |
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| qu1j0t3 | Maybe someone can add to my answer. schestowitz? http://www.quora.com/What-are-the-benefits-of-developing-in-a-Linux-environment | Mar 13 09:38 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: What are the benefits of developing in a Linux environment? - Quora .::. Size~: 69.45 KB | Mar 13 09:39 |
| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: I've no account thee | Mar 13 09:40 |
| schestowitz | *there. Wait till they sell to Google, then it'll turn out they just pulled a Huffing on their contributors | Mar 13 09:41 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: that's fixable... | Mar 13 09:41 |
| qu1j0t3 | i have 140 answers there | Mar 13 09:41 |
| schestowitz | Nice... | Mar 13 09:41 |
| schestowitz | Is it like Yahoo Answers? | Mar 13 09:42 |
| qu1j0t3 | i don't think the HP thing is about paying bloggers... | Mar 13 09:42 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: no | Mar 13 09:42 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: it's all user contrib | Mar 13 09:42 |
| qu1j0t3 | i don't care if they sell. i know the deal. | Mar 13 09:42 |
| qu1j0t3 | i contribute for the same reasons i'd contribute to Usenet | Mar 13 09:42 |
| schestowitz | Not comparable | Mar 13 09:42 |
| schestowitz | USENET cannot be sold | Mar 13 09:43 |
| schestowitz | USENET stays in my hard-drive too | Mar 13 09:43 |
| qu1j0t3 | Usenet runs on Darpa's network. | Mar 13 09:43 |
| schestowitz | Unless I set to autopuge old messages | Mar 13 09:43 |
| schestowitz | *auto-purge | Mar 13 09:43 |
| qu1j0t3 | on some level you're always using someone else's platform | Mar 13 09:43 |
| qu1j0t3 | usenet can be censored, blocked, republished, etc | Mar 13 09:43 |
| schestowitz | Can't sell | Mar 13 09:43 |
| schestowitz | Deja News is not it and Google Group is just cancer on USENET | Mar 13 09:43 |
| qu1j0t3 | but why does that matter | Mar 13 09:43 |
| schestowitz | *Groups | Mar 13 09:43 |
| qu1j0t3 | it's nothing to do with HP imho | Mar 13 09:43 |
| qu1j0t3 | the real problem with the HP isn't that bloggers should be paid | Mar 13 09:44 |
| schestowitz | republication is good | Mar 13 09:44 |
| schestowitz | It makes USENET more resistant to takedowns | Mar 13 09:44 |
| schestowitz | And watch what happened to Netscape/Propeller | Mar 13 09:44 |
| schestowitz | !google cloud propeller schestowitz | Mar 13 09:44 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | [1] - LibreOffice is Launched, Offering Independence from Oracle ... | http://techrights.org/2010/09/28/document-foundation-and-libreoffice/ | Mar 13 09:44 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | [2] - Novell Down 7% Today, Buyers Deemed Unsuitable, and Sale Value ... | http://techrights.org/2010/09/24/novell-sale-saga/ | Mar 13 09:44 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | [3] - With Software Patents โMicrosoft Claims to Own the Whole Field of ... | http://techrights.org/2010/10/31/anti-linux-lawsuits-and-ibm-peer2patent/ | Mar 13 09:44 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | [4] - Ubuntu Linux Netbooks Cause Microsoft Pain | The VAR Guy | http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/10/24/linux-netbooks-impact-microsoft-sales/ | Mar 13 09:44 |
| schestowitz | Wait, not right links... | Mar 13 09:45 |
| schestowitz | http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2010/10/05/cloud-computing-goes-boom/ | Mar 13 09:45 |
| schestowitz | Here... | Mar 13 09:45 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: schestowitz.com ยป Blog Archive ยป With โCloud Computingโ You Canโt Keep Your Data Under Your Control .::. Size~: 36.73 KB | Mar 13 09:45 |
| schestowitz | Quora is the same thing | Mar 13 09:45 |
| schestowitz | Digg too | Mar 13 09:45 |
| schestowitz | They can pull all the stuff any time | Mar 13 09:45 |
| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: I know some more people who can get clients through Joe... http://www.personaltrainermanchester.co.uk/ ... did you read my stuff from earlier? | Mar 13 09:47 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Personal Trainers Manchester UK - Joseph Leah specialist in personal training .::. Size~: 15.43 KB | Mar 13 09:47 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: I'm helping someone move from Ubuntu to Fedora or Mint | Mar 13 09:55 |
| schestowitz | She wants to try Fedora though | Mar 13 09:55 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: well look what I just done :D ,but not to any groups, I don't want loads of Ubuntu fan boys replying to it heh heh | Mar 13 09:57 |
| schestowitz | > Hi! Thanks for your thoughtful replies, I enjoyed and appreciated them immensely! | Mar 13 09:57 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 13 09:57 |
| schestowitz | > Congratulations on getting moved and settled. It can be such a chore to move to a new place, but then it's really nice when all the packing and unpacking is finished. | Mar 13 09:57 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 13 09:57 |
| schestowitz | > Now, if BT will just get your Internet connected, life could get back to normal. :) | Mar 13 09:57 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 13 09:57 |
| schestowitz | > This afternoon I'm going to try, once again, to install Fedora. I've not had much luck with it in the past, but I thought I'd try again. I've heard that KDE is much better now, so I'd like to see if I can use it. I'm a bit like Goblin when it comes to KDE, it's always looked | Mar 13 09:57 |
| schestowitz | > pretty, but also felt a little frustrating to use. Maybe this time will be better. | Mar 13 09:57 |
| schestowitz | If you've not burned it yet, try Mint 10 (GNOME or KDE). I used it all day yesterday and it was fantastic. I'll blog about it in http://Schestowitz.com very shortly. | Mar 13 09:57 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: schestowitz.com .::. Size~: 15.98 KB | Mar 13 09:57 |
| schestowitz | > It's fun to try things out though, and I have lots of spare drives to test new software on, so we'll see how it goes. | Mar 13 09:57 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 13 09:57 |
| schestowitz | > Anyway, I'm glad you're all finished with the move, looking forward to seeing pics of your new place! | Mar 13 09:57 |
| schestowitz | Here is a video from 1 hour ago (att.) | Mar 13 09:57 |
| schestowitz | I think it's too later now for Mint though... | Mar 13 09:57 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: the problem is that the corporation is modelled directly on cancer. | Mar 13 09:57 |
| schestowitz | I mean, if she had burned Fedora | Mar 13 09:58 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: however that could happen anyway, since the original dent was sent to the !ubuntu group the one I replied to. http://identi.ca/conversation/66091074 | Mar 13 09:58 |
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| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: what do you mean? | Mar 13 09:58 |
| schestowitz | The marketing part? | Mar 13 09:58 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: anyway I like the woman I replied to :), she will probably end up on better distro's a bit later on anyway :) | Mar 13 09:58 |
| schestowitz | It's hard to face marketing people and raise these issues | Mar 13 09:58 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: yeah :-) | Mar 13 09:59 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: > Your concept that any business, no matter how small, is still a potentially | Mar 13 09:59 |
| qu1j0t3 | > exploitative corporate entity, is rather astounding. From personal | Mar 13 09:59 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: so many Ubuntu fan boys on identica though hmm | Mar 13 09:59 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: also you know how Ubuntu is the biggest group on there, uh right yeah, but it probably has a lot of spam accounts in it as well | Mar 13 09:59 |
| qu1j0t3 | the problem is more the growth model, e.g. going public, etc, imho schestowitz | Mar 13 09:59 |
| sebsebseb | in fact maybe it's, because of the spam/fake accounts that is the most popular | Mar 13 10:00 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: it emulates cancer | Mar 13 10:00 |
| schestowitz | IPO | Mar 13 10:00 |
| schestowitz | Morals aside, money first | Mar 13 10:00 |
| schestowitz | Else you get fired | Mar 13 10:00 |
| qu1j0t3 | yes. | Mar 13 10:00 |
| schestowitz | The cancer assimilats nearby cells or destroys them | Mar 13 10:01 |
| qu1j0t3 | the militaristic hierarchy also helps this process | Mar 13 10:01 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: aiui, cancer is about unrestrained and unsustainable (fatal) growth | Mar 13 10:01 |
| qu1j0t3 | which is exactly what a corporation does | Mar 13 10:01 |
| schestowitz | Like lots of issues in IT as well... systems that encourage immorality and remove moral elements to increase power | Mar 13 10:01 |
| schestowitz | Tesco sells everything now | Mar 13 10:02 |
| schestowitz | Wal-mart selling insurance and houses yet? | Mar 13 10:02 |
| qu1j0t3 | cui bono? :) | Mar 13 10:02 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: in all likelihood yes. | Mar 13 10:02 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft sells patent licences now | Mar 13 10:02 |
| schestowitz | It promotes the lawyers with the baseball bat | Mar 13 10:02 |
| schestowitz | Moving where there's BizNiz | Mar 13 10:03 |
| schestowitz | "Join the real world"|"Are you AGAINST MONEY?!?!?"|"the world will never change" :-) | Mar 13 10:04 |
| qu1j0t3 | http://twitter.com/#!/natlsecuritycnn/status/46980665736048641 | Mar 13 10:10 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @natlsecuritycnn: BREAKING - @edhenrycnn reporting that PJ Crowley out as State Dept spokesman after criticizing treatment of Bradley Manning. #StateDept | Mar 13 10:10 |
| qu1j0t3 | http://twitter.com/#!/marcambinder/status/46980475847319553 | Mar 13 10:11 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @marcambinder: .@nationaljournal confirms that @pjcrowley has resigned as State spox. @edhenrycnn was first to report. DoD/WH furious at his Manning cmnts | Mar 13 10:11 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: Anyway nice your moving people away from Ubuntu now to better distro's? | Mar 13 10:11 |
| qu1j0t3 | http://twitter.com/#!/SteveHynd/status/46980279138648064 | Mar 13 10:12 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @SteveHynd: RT @ggreenwald: Crowley resigned "under pressure from WH" - http://is.gd/yuyqbN - detainee abuse is allowed - speaking out against it isn't. | Mar 13 10:12 |
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| sebsebseb | schestowitz: anyway I should have eaten earlier, but I got to sucked into identica and IRC | Mar 13 10:14 |
| sebsebseb | so yeah food time very soon now for me :) | Mar 13 10:14 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: nisshh MinceR Altough here's the link I was going to give earlier: http://www.alexhudson.com/2011/03/12/fedora-15-gnome-leadership/ | Mar 13 10:16 |
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| qu1j0t3 | http://twitter.com/#!/newsycombinator/status/46978844229509120 | Mar 13 10:16 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @newsycombinator: Police Return Seized Hardware to Victorious BitTorrent Admin, Trashed http://j.mp/hJcuqP | Mar 13 10:16 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @: | Mar 13 10:16 |
| qu1j0t3 | http://www.wildbunny.co.uk/blog/?p=132 | Mar 13 10:18 |
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| schestowitz | Blech | Mar 13 10:46 |
| schestowitz | FB | Mar 13 10:46 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: yes Facebook :( pretty much, however I did get onto a kind of interesting link to do with it earlier, from Identica | Mar 13 10:47 |
| schestowitz | I have a wiki page about facebook | Mar 13 10:49 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: i'll find the link soon or whatever, food time | Mar 13 10:50 |
| schestowitz | OK, thanks | Mar 13 10:52 |
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| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: I guess u saw this. http://yro.slashdot.org/story/11/03/11/1525246/Eric-Schmidt-a-Contender-For-US-Commerce-Secretary | Mar 13 11:24 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Eric Schmidt a Contender For US Commerce Secretary - Slashdot .::. Size~: 94.02 KB | Mar 13 11:24 |
| schestowitz | haven't yet, no... | Mar 13 11:27 |
| schestowitz | Intel's CEO also got some major seat... | Mar 13 11:27 |
| schestowitz | Disgusting | Mar 13 11:27 |
| qu1j0t3 | right | Mar 13 11:27 |
| qu1j0t3 | revolving door turning so fast it's now a blur... who said that ... | Mar 13 11:27 |
| schestowitz | Now they put in the throne the very same people whom they tried to hide so that the public can't tell who really runs the country | Mar 13 11:28 |
| qu1j0t3 | "you're not with us you're against us" | Mar 13 11:28 |
| qu1j0t3 | says it all | Mar 13 11:28 |
| schestowitz | So tell us, Mr. Gates, what should we use on PCs at schools? | Mar 13 11:28 |
| qu1j0t3 | unelected Ed. Minister | Mar 13 11:28 |
| schestowitz | Yes | Mar 13 11:28 |
| schestowitz | He's in his 50s | Mar 13 11:28 |
| schestowitz | Can buy new organs | Mar 13 11:28 |
| qu1j0t3 | Democracy(TM) | Mar 13 11:28 |
| schestowitz | So give him another 50 | Mar 13 11:28 |
| schestowitz | Like David Rockychair | Mar 13 11:28 |
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| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/66938896 | Mar 14 11:21 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @Marti van Lin (ml2mst)'s status on Monday, 14-Mar-11 08:19:14 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz congratiolations with your new house. Your interior is very beautiful and balanced. Good taste. Best wishes. #fengshui | Mar 14 11:21 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/66978601 | Mar 14 11:22 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @andreasr's status on Monday, 14-Mar-11 17:55:02 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz that's one sexy wallpaper... I'd hit that! | Mar 14 11:22 |
| schestowitz | fedra 15... | Mar 14 11:22 |
| schestowitz | "Hello, we expect IE9 final today http://is.gd/ab2cWm " | Mar 14 11:22 |
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| schestowitz | "Hi Roy, have a look at my last blog/tweet, you might find it interesting I guess.. best, Roberto" | Mar 14 11:22 |
| schestowitz | Red Hat cheating.... | Mar 14 11:23 |
| schestowitz | http://robertogaloppini.net/2011/03/14/open-source-revenue-models-red-hats-tactics-and-strategies/ | Mar 14 11:23 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/47334905289523201 | Mar 14 11:25 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @FOSSpatents: @jwildeboer You said I should prove Red Hat's patent royalty payment. There you go: http://bit.ly/e9Oc2i cc: @schestowitz #fsfe | Mar 14 11:25 |
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| schestowitz | See why I didn't say I was moving...? http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/browse_thread/thread/206400a515df0f19 | Mar 14 11:32 |
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| schestowitz | LOL | Mar 14 13:42 |
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| schestowitz | I have problems sleeping as little as I used to... sleep not kicking in just yet... and then I sleep over 8 hours/night for like a week now | Mar 14 16:17 |
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| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/jdub/status/47335940770889728 http://twitter.com/jstedfast/statuses/47340248488869888 | Mar 14 16:28 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @jdub: If there is an Evil Overlord of #GNOME 3.0, it is undoubtedly that shadowy French figure, Vincent Untz. | Mar 14 16:28 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @jstedfast: @jdub oh that guy is evil. I heard he works for that evil empire corp. that secretly pulls all the strings that only techrights can see | Mar 14 16:28 |
| qu1j0t3 | ugh | Mar 14 16:32 |
| schestowitz | Novell employee BTW | Mar 14 16:34 |
| schestowitz | Mono/Ximian | Mar 14 16:34 |
| qu1j0t3 | well, there are none so blind as those who will not see | Mar 14 16:46 |
| oiaohm | qu1j0t3: what about those who don't want to see. | Mar 14 17:03 |
| qu1j0t3 | referring to jdub et al | Mar 14 17:04 |
| qu1j0t3 | jstedfast, specifically | Mar 14 17:05 |
| qu1j0t3 | the Business of Denial | Mar 14 17:05 |
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| schestowitz | The role of Novell sometime seems to pollute Microsoft competitors with patent bair such as Silver Lie and .NET | Mar 14 23:28 |
| schestowitz | > Dear Doctor Roy, | Mar 14 23:28 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 14 23:28 |
| schestowitz | > Mr. Yves de Montcheuil, VP of Marketing of Talend, have given me | Mar 14 23:28 |
| schestowitz | > permission to translate his article & post it on our Spanish portal. | Mar 14 23:29 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 14 23:29 |
| schestowitz | > Here's is the link to his article: | Mar 14 23:29 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 14 23:29 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.talend.com/blog/2011/02/25/no-matter-what-you-call-it-a-rat-is-still-a-rat/ | Mar 14 23:29 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 14 23:29 |
| schestowitz | > As soon as I'm done with it. I'll send it to you! | Mar 14 23:29 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: No matter what you call it, a rat is still a ratโฆ at Talend blog .::. Size~: 62.31 KB | Mar 14 23:29 |
| schestowitz | > I'm happy we're back. BTW the house picture looks very nice. Are you a | Mar 14 23:30 |
| schestowitz | > home decorator? | Mar 14 23:30 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 14 23:31 |
| schestowitz | > Anyway, here it goes: | Mar 14 23:31 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 14 23:31 |
| schestowitz | > mobile-platforms-and-platform-security_ES | Mar 14 23:31 |
| schestowitz | Heh. No, someone else did it. | Mar 14 23:32 |
| schestowitz | Please try to double-check to see I post the translations correctly. | Mar 14 23:32 |
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| qu1j0t3 | http://www.zdnet.co.uk/blogs/the-open-source-revolution-10014902/out-with-windows-2000-in-with-fedora-14-10021893/ | Mar 15 12:12 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Out with Windows 2000, in with Fedora 14 | ZDNet UK .::. Size~: 47.51 KB | Mar 15 12:12 |
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| schestowitz | OT (Ubuntu and stuff): | Mar 15 13:04 |
| schestowitz | > Loved the video...I like all the big windows and light...great wallpaper in the kitchen too! Thanks for sending it. It was almost like a real | Mar 15 13:04 |
| schestowitz | > visit! Maybe I should get a video camera and send you some footage of my studio/office and the crazy little house I live in. | Mar 15 13:04 |
| schestowitz | If you visit the UK one day, definitely let me know. I love guests. | Mar 15 13:04 |
| schestowitz | > It's funny that you suggested downloading Mint 10 with KDE. I already had it ready in case the Fedora install didn't work out. But I ended up trying both on different drives. I was surprised at Fedora, it was MUCH | Mar 15 13:04 |
| schestowitz | > nicer than the last time I tried it (maybe two years ago), and Mint seems nice too, but I need to work with both of them a bit more and learn my way around. | Mar 15 13:04 |
| schestowitz | I have used both, but with Mint I only used the GNOME side of version 10. Actually, I used Fedora 14 in two different places of work; I still work with it daily (today most of the day) and sometimes it makes me a little upset because it has bugs. Well, that's fair enough though cause my programs still have bugs, too. I use Fedora for development (details in my personal blog). | Mar 15 13:04 |
| schestowitz | > I truly have enjoyed using Ubuntu with Gnome. It's always worked with the hardware I've had at hand, and for most of the installs I've done for other people's computers it's been so easy. | Mar 15 13:04 |
| schestowitz | Yes, I have no resentment for GNOME. There's that subculture in GNOME which promotes Microsoft though. | Mar 15 13:04 |
| schestowitz | > It's also been disheartening to see so many people being so hateful | Mar 15 13:04 |
| schestowitz | > towards Ubuntu. It's a shame. Sadly, whenever I see some sort of dust-up over Ubuntu it always seems to originate with Gnome people who are pro-mono/Banshee. | Mar 15 13:05 |
| schestowitz | I've been a promoter of Ubuntu since the start. You can still search the Web for public posts of mine from the dawn of Ubuntu; I was an early adopter and brought some people to it. | Mar 15 13:05 |
| schestowitz | > I've decided to stick with Ubuntu, for now. Mostly because it would be a shame for folks to just run away at the first sign of problems. I | Mar 15 13:05 |
| schestowitz | > think chasing everyone away from Canonical and Ubuntu is actually the goal of the Mono-Gnomer-Banshee-ites (that's what I call them). The more they can disrupt, divide and degrade the Ubuntu community, the happier they are. | Mar 15 13:05 |
| schestowitz | Canonical is taking the heat and rethinking its attitude. That's what's important. We both believe in second chances. :-) | Mar 15 13:05 |
| schestowitz | > I'm just stubborn enough to stand my ground. It's a bit like the neighborhood I live in. I've lived in this neighborhood since 1973 | Mar 15 13:05 |
| schestowitz | > (though I did live in other places for a short time during the early 90s). It has changed a lot over the decades, even gone through some very bad times, as far as crime and blight. But it has always managed to survive through the troubles. | Mar 15 13:05 |
| schestowitz | Yes, I could leave Manchester a month ago. Instead, I chose to move to a different area in it. I just don't want to be a geon00b in the city I live in (where's the bank, who's in the gym, what's the history/good sites/sights and so on)... | Mar 15 13:05 |
| schestowitz | > It's not a rich neighborhood, by any means, but it's a stable one, with huge diversity in population. We (the majority of neighbors) didn't just move away and abandon it to the bad elements, but actually worked together to get things cleaned up, and helped make it safer for the new young families that are moving in. | Mar 15 13:05 |
| schestowitz | The place where I live is full of people around my age. In fact, an hour ago there was a nice girl who must be about 30 in the lift with me. She had been jogging past me a couple of minutes earlier and made some eye contact. It's likely I'll see her in the future. This actually reminds me, on Saturday I had friends over for drinks and then we went to pubs, then to a club. There was this girl there whom I was getting along. It | Mar 15 13:05 |
| schestowitz | turns out that my drunk friend (under circumstances unknown to me) had told this girl to **** o**. I did not know that and when she asked if he was my friend I innocently said "yes". Well... | Mar 15 13:05 |
| schestowitz | > That's how I feel about Canonical and Ubuntu. It doesn't seem right to just abandon them when they make mistakes, or to just let the > troublemakers take over and spoil it all. | Mar 15 13:05 |
| schestowitz | Yes, Novell loves what Banshee (Mono, Novell copyrights and developers too) has been doing to Ubuntu. | Mar 15 13:05 |
| schestowitz | > On the other hand, it never hurts to keep trying other distros, just in case. I've been testing the Natty/Unity since early Alpha, and it's been | Mar 15 13:05 |
| schestowitz | > very interesting. But it's also going to be a huge change. Change is inevitable, and people would complain if Ubuntu stagnated and never progressed (though it seems there are always complainers, no matter what). But I'm not sure that Natty will be stable by next month's release. We'll see. | Mar 15 13:05 |
| schestowitz | Unity is a gamble, but probably not more so than that movement of window buttons to the 'wrong' side... | Mar 15 13:05 |
| schestowitz | > Anyway, it seems like a good time to revisit other distros, and try to learn to like KDE. Do you think the Nokia/Microsoft deal will cause permanent harm to QT? Doesn't KDE use QT? (I'm not quite sure how necessary one is to the other). | Mar 15 13:05 |
| schestowitz | It won't harm KDE in any real way. Competition from Android et al. might. | Mar 15 13:05 |
| schestowitz | > Is there ANYTHING in this world that Microsoft doesn't try to pollute and ruin? (haha, I already know the answer to that one) | Mar 15 13:05 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft was initially called Micro-soft (after Bill's genitals) but prior to that it was called garbageware (because Gates had admitted starting this business by "fishing" for code in the garbage cans). Some things never change even 30+ years later. On a more serious notes, Google was called some other stuff or had names like (Larry)PageRank and BackRub (see their logos too, Larry is now CEO by the way). Google is a much | Mar 15 13:05 |
| schestowitz | nicer story about a company growing out of Freedom software and thriving so amazingly quickly, still spreading some software freedom where possible. | Mar 15 13:05 |
| schestowitz | > Glad to see a new episode of Techbytes!! You are so serious, and Goblin is so earnest, and Gordon is such a hoot (meaning very funny)...you three make a good team. I really enjoy the show. | Mar 15 13:05 |
| schestowitz | Yes, I'm too serious on the show, unlike in everyday life. | Mar 15 13:05 |
| schestowitz | > Ok, guess I'd better put the mouse down and step away from the computer for a while. Need to do some yard work...tree trimmin' and weed killin' FTW! \0/ | Mar 15 13:05 |
| qu1j0t3 | geon00b? | Mar 15 13:06 |
| qu1j0t3 | wouldn't last long | Mar 15 13:06 |
| schestowitz | Like... | Mar 15 13:06 |
| qu1j0t3 | i mean the n00bness. | Mar 15 13:06 |
| schestowitz | When you don't know your surroundings well | Mar 15 13:06 |
| qu1j0t3 | right, but that wouldn't take very long to fix, surely | Mar 15 13:06 |
| schestowitz | In the past week I spent like 5 hours walking around just to study the area | Mar 15 13:07 |
| schestowitz | It takes decades to know your area well... shops, lakes, forests, rough areas (to avoid), booze.. | Mar 15 13:07 |
| qu1j0t3 | i suppose. | Mar 15 13:07 |
| schestowitz | I also spent a long time today in Google Maps, yesterday in OpenStreetMap | Mar 15 13:07 |
| qu1j0t3 | but in a large city you should ideally be exploring anyway | Mar 15 13:07 |
| schestowitz | I know the south of Manchester well | Mar 15 13:07 |
| qu1j0t3 | there's piles of neighbourhoods here we haven't | Mar 15 13:08 |
| schestowitz | Cause I lived there for many years | Mar 15 13:08 |
| schestowitz | The north is somewhere I rarely ever went to (without bus/train) | Mar 15 13:08 |
| qu1j0t3 | right, here we rarely go east | Mar 15 13:08 |
| qu1j0t3 | (we live west of downtown) | Mar 15 13:08 |
| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: I'm still looking for gigs we can do | Mar 15 13:09 |
| qu1j0t3 | it looks like i'll get a full time offer here | Mar 15 13:09 |
| schestowitz | When my line is up (With Ethernet) a friend expects me to call him | Mar 15 13:09 |
| schestowitz | Usually I just walk in and get the jobs without any interview (my past 3 jobs are like that) and tomorrow I meet another one at 5... but I think you and the wife are happy in Toronto already | Mar 15 13:10 |
| schestowitz | You think Manc is like London... with classes and racism | Mar 15 13:10 |
| schestowitz | Psycho at it again... http://us.generation-nt.com/answer/techrights-ok-help-202522932.html | Mar 15 13:15 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Answer : Is Techrights OK? .::. Size~: 29.52 KB | Mar 15 13:15 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: yes and no. | Mar 15 13:16 |
| schestowitz | It's a melting pot here, too | Mar 15 13:16 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: she's applied to a school here. but if she isn't accepted, we have less tie | Mar 15 13:16 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: i mean 'happy in TO already' | Mar 15 13:16 |
| schestowitz | Becomes more like the US, despite EDL, BNP, and other racist groups | Mar 15 13:16 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: it's employment dependent; i see more interesting jobs in Europe | Mar 15 13:16 |
| schestowitz | You're both from the south | Mar 15 13:17 |
| schestowitz | Brazil and Aussie | Mar 15 13:17 |
| schestowitz | So moving to another continent might not be like leaving the parents and friends | Mar 15 13:17 |
| qu1j0t3 | she has a big problem with that aspect. | Mar 15 13:18 |
| qu1j0t3 | not so easy to cure since her family+friends are all in northeast brazil, which means i can't easily work there, and the climate isn't great. | Mar 15 13:19 |
| schestowitz | Can VoIP+video help? | Mar 15 13:20 |
| qu1j0t3 | she uses skype all the time | Mar 15 13:20 |
| qu1j0t3 | This listing of lobbyists lobbying Homeland Security, listed by the Sunlight Foundation, lists the areas where Koch Industries is active in that context: | Mar 15 13:28 |
| qu1j0t3 | 9E5ED4F8-FE89-44BA-9052-F19204B5673B,REGISTRATION,Siff & Associates PLLC,Koch Industries Public Sector,2010-11-03 15:01:31, Financial Institutions/Investments/Securities|Energy/Nuclear|Law Enforcement/Crime/Criminal Justice|Homeland Security|Chemicals/Chemical Industry, "Issues related to federal energy and environmental policy; homeland security and critical infrastructure protection; | Mar 15 13:28 |
| qu1j0t3 | criminal justice, legal, and judicial processes reform." | Mar 15 13:28 |
| qu1j0t3 | via http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20110309160558506 | Mar 15 13:28 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Groklaw - SCO, unXis, Microsoft, Canopy, Carlyle, Elliott Associates, and Koch Industries .::. Size~: 171.2 KB | Mar 15 13:28 |
| schestowitz | Or Meh | Mar 15 13:33 |
| schestowitz | Depressing stuff... | Mar 15 13:33 |
| schestowitz | But the connections she shows are not always so strong | Mar 15 13:34 |
| qu1j0t3 | http://twitter.com/#!/Sierra_Club/status/47759051790106624 | Mar 15 13:48 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @Sierra_Club: RT @drgrist: Republicans are arguing that to have a healthy economy, you have to accept being poisoned. It's just depraved. | Mar 15 13:48 |
| qu1j0t3 | http://twitter.com/#!/DCPlod/status/47757888856395776 | Mar 15 13:49 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @DCPlod: Dear David Cameron: I seriously suggest you check the average number of applications per job on a jobsite before you slam the unemployed. | Mar 15 13:49 |
| schestowitz | Heh | Mar 15 14:24 |
| schestowitz | David already has a job | Mar 15 14:24 |
| schestowitz | TBH, many jobs are never advertised | Mar 15 14:24 |
| schestowitz | You need to network with people | Mar 15 14:24 |
| qu1j0t3 | http://twitter.com/#!/LiberalHitGirl/status/47785585116577792 | Mar 15 15:26 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @LiberalHitGirl: Taxpayers pay around $4,400 each per year on military, and on NPR? That figure is 16c. #tcot #p2 | Mar 15 15:26 |
| qu1j0t3 | http://twitter.com/#!/Johngcole/status/47785419793899520 | Mar 15 15:27 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @Johngcole: Way to sell out, Arianna. Just what we needed. http://bit.ly/ftLHCD #bighuffington | Mar 15 15:27 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | -> Title: Balloon Juice ยป Even the liberal Huffington Post .::. Size~: 78.06 KB | Mar 15 15:27 |
| schestowitz | Blech | Mar 15 15:46 |
| schestowitz | You made me loathe Huffington | Mar 15 15:46 |
| qu1j0t3 | I did? | Mar 15 15:47 |
| schestowitz | I did not concentrate on the people behind the site | Mar 15 15:49 |
| schestowitz | Rather on the issues covered (or syndicated) | Mar 15 15:49 |
| qu1j0t3 | ya | Mar 15 15:50 |
| qu1j0t3 | i used to read it as well. not sure when the penny dropped. | Mar 15 15:50 |
| qu1j0t3 | maybe it was Gates' column | Mar 15 15:50 |
| schestowitz | Heh. You can read that two ways | Mar 15 15:51 |
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| qu1j0t3 | http://yro.slashdot.org/story/11/03/15/2057231/Poole-To-Zuckerberg-Yoursquore-Doing-It-Wrong | Mar 15 18:09 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Poole To Zuckerberg: Youโre Doing It Wrong - Slashdot .::. Size~: 128.63 KB | Mar 15 18:09 |
| schestowitz | Who's Poole? | Mar 15 18:09 |
| schestowitz | Will from Microsoft? | Mar 15 18:09 |
| qu1j0t3 | 4chan | Mar 15 18:10 |
| qu1j0t3 | 'moot' | Mar 15 18:10 |
| sebsebseb | http://identi.ca/conversation/66259732 | Mar 15 18:10 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Conversation - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 11.75 KB | Mar 15 18:10 |
| sebsebseb | yeah this is so @mageia and a load of other people uh :( | Mar 15 18:11 |
| sebsebseb | oh and @mageia is used by more than one person as far as i know | Mar 15 18:11 |
| sebsebseb | indeed at people using identica as a dumping ground for Twitter | Mar 15 18:12 |
| sebsebseb | messages | Mar 15 18:12 |
| qu1j0t3 | https://twitter.com/#!/Pat120/status/47838346273234944 | Mar 15 19:11 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @Pat120: Just unfollowed @HuffingtonPost - Inviting Breitbart to write for them was the last straw. | Mar 15 19:11 |
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| schestowitz | > /Yes, Novell loves what Banshee (Mono, Novell copyrights and developers | Mar 16 01:14 |
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| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/conversation/66306409#notice-67118030 | Mar 16 01:16 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Conversation - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 10.88 KB | Mar 16 01:16 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/67118030e-67118030 | Mar 16 01:16 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Not a dent? | Mar 16 01:16 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/67118030 | Mar 16 01:16 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @Wayne Borean (themadhatter)'s status on Wednesday, 16-Mar-11 00:58:46 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz How to promote Freedom and People's rights? How about #Anonymous ? | Mar 16 01:16 |
| schestowitz | > Hmmm, she shouldn't have judged you by someone else's behavior. That | Mar 16 01:17 |
| schestowitz | > just seems unfair. The jogger-girl sounds like she might be a far more | Mar 16 01:17 |
| schestowitz | > interesting friend. It sounds like a good neighborhood for meeting new | Mar 16 01:17 |
| schestowitz | > people, I'm glad the move has been a good one for you. | Mar 16 01:17 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 16 01:17 |
| schestowitz | > /Yes, Novell loves what Banshee (Mono, Novell copyrights and developers | Mar 16 01:17 |
| schestowitz | > too) has been doing to Ubuntu./ | Mar 16 01:17 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 16 01:17 |
| schestowitz | > I tried Banshee a few times, setting Ubuntu up for friends. I always to | Mar 16 01:17 |
| schestowitz | > let them choose the software they want, and Banshee gets lots of good | Mar 16 01:17 |
| schestowitz | > reviews. But, so far, no one has wanted to keep it. It seems terribly | Mar 16 01:17 |
| schestowitz | > buggy. | Mar 16 01:17 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 16 01:17 |
| schestowitz | > /Unity is a gamble, but probably not more so than that movement of | Mar 16 01:17 |
| schestowitz | > window buttons to the 'wrong' side... | Mar 16 01:17 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 16 01:18 |
| schestowitz | > /Actually, I've been a little surprised by Unity, it's not been as bad | Mar 16 01:18 |
| schestowitz | > as I expected. I really have enjoyed watching it take shape/. /But I'm | Mar 16 01:18 |
| schestowitz | > not sure I'd want to use it full-time. Maybe by the next release it | Mar 16 01:18 |
| schestowitz | > will be more polished. / | Mar 16 01:18 |
| schestowitz | > / | Mar 16 01:18 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 16 01:18 |
| schestowitz | > /It won't harm KDE in any real way. Competition from Android et al. might./ | Mar 16 01:18 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 16 01:18 |
| schestowitz | > I'm glad to know that KDE will be fine if something happened to QT. | Mar 16 01:18 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 16 01:18 |
| schestowitz | > /Microsoft was initially called Micro-soft (after Bill's genitals)... / | Mar 16 01:18 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 16 01:18 |
| schestowitz | > Well that might explain a lot...bullies are generally very insecure | Mar 16 01:18 |
| schestowitz | > people. lol | Mar 16 01:18 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 16 01:18 |
| schestowitz | > /...but prior to that it was called garbageware (because Gates had | Mar 16 01:18 |
| schestowitz | > admitted starting this business by "fishing" for code in the garbage | Mar 16 01:18 |
| schestowitz | > cans). Some things never change even 30+ years later. On a more serious | Mar 16 01:18 |
| schestowitz | > notes, Google was called some other stuff or had names like (Larry) | Mar 16 01:18 |
| schestowitz | > PageRank and BackRub (see their logos too, Larry is now CEO by the way). | Mar 16 01:18 |
| schestowitz | > Google is a much nicer story about a company growing out of Freedom | Mar 16 01:18 |
| schestowitz | > software and thriving so amazingly quickly, still spreading some | Mar 16 01:18 |
| schestowitz | > software freedom where possible./ | Mar 16 01:18 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 16 01:18 |
| schestowitz | > Yes, I find the increasingly ugly "Slog" against Google to be | Mar 16 01:18 |
| schestowitz | > worrisome. They seem to be able to handle it all pretty well, but they | Mar 16 01:18 |
| schestowitz | > seemed to have taken the kid gloves off recently, especially with the | Mar 16 01:18 |
| schestowitz | > Bing! thing. I thought that was very funny. | Mar 16 01:18 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 16 01:18 |
| schestowitz | > /Yes, I'm too serious on the show, unlike in everyday life./ | Mar 16 01:18 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 16 01:18 |
| schestowitz | > No, you're not too serious (see above) :) | Mar 16 01:18 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 16 01:18 |
| schestowitz | > /"Thanks for the chat./" | Mar 16 01:18 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 16 01:18 |
| schestowitz | > I've probably become horribly annoying, but thank you for writing back. | Mar 16 01:18 |
| schestowitz | > I know it takes time out of your day to do so, but it's very | Mar 16 01:18 |
| schestowitz | > appreciated. I've enjoyed it and am very proud to know you. You're a | Mar 16 01:19 |
| schestowitz | > good man and I believe you will do great things. | Mar 16 01:19 |
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| nisshh | sebsebseb, i think i really just pissed of one of the OMG guys | Mar 16 12:41 |
| sebsebseb | nisshh: oh? | Mar 16 12:41 |
| nisshh | he just ragequit IRC | Mar 16 12:41 |
| sebsebseb | nisshh: well you should see the video for jono's usteram | Mar 16 12:41 |
| sebsebseb | people made fun of me a bit lol | Mar 16 12:41 |
| nisshh | oh? | Mar 16 12:41 |
| nisshh | what happened? | Mar 16 12:41 |
| sebsebseb | oh about a poster, and I was like.... | Mar 16 12:41 |
| nisshh | the one from yesterday? | Mar 16 12:41 |
| sebsebseb | well see for yourself | Mar 16 12:41 |
| sebsebseb | the one from today, Wednesday | Mar 16 12:42 |
| sebsebseb | altough not in your time zone | Mar 16 12:42 |
| nisshh | yeah | Mar 16 12:42 |
| sebsebseb | http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/13359590 | Mar 16 12:42 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: At Home With Jono Bacon 03/16/11 11:57AM, At Home With Jono Bacon 03/16/11 11:57AM jonobacon on USTREAM. Computers .::. Size~: 35.09 KB | Mar 16 12:42 |
| nisshh | oh, the one that just happened a little while ago? | Mar 16 12:42 |
| nisshh | like 40 minutes? | Mar 16 12:42 |
| sebsebseb | on the 25th minute he is like let's have a game can anyone guess what this is? | Mar 16 12:42 |
| sebsebseb | then in the second half is what I am on about | Mar 16 12:42 |
| nisshh | ok | Mar 16 12:43 |
| sebsebseb | plus some stuff in the text look of course, that you woudn't see lol | Mar 16 12:43 |
| sebsebseb | anyway yeah it was an hour earlier today for me | Mar 16 12:43 |
| sebsebseb | since we haven't gone forward an hour yet | Mar 16 12:43 |
| nisshh | yeah | Mar 16 12:43 |
| sebsebseb | actsaully 26th minute some poster guessing | Mar 16 12:43 |
| sebsebseb | anyway just watch the video I guess :D | Mar 16 12:43 |
| sebsebseb | nisshh: altough you annoyeed one of the omgubuntu guys? | Mar 16 12:43 |
| nisshh | yeah | Mar 16 12:44 |
| sebsebseb | how so? | Mar 16 12:44 |
| nisshh | he got pissed when i kept pointing out this new OMG run "hub" was designed for newbie app devs | Mar 16 12:44 |
| sebsebseb | nisshh: who is he? | Mar 16 12:44 |
| nisshh | akshatj | Mar 16 12:44 |
| sebsebseb | oh | Mar 16 12:45 |
| nisshh | oh, wait, no, he didnt ragequit :) | Mar 16 12:45 |
| sebsebseb | well omgubuntu is mainly for newbies lol | Mar 16 12:45 |
| nisshh | he ping timeouted | Mar 16 12:45 |
| sebsebseb | newbie Ubuntu fan boys and newbies Ubuntu fan girls | Mar 16 12:45 |
| sebsebseb | mainly | Mar 16 12:45 |
| nisshh | yeah | Mar 16 12:45 |
| sebsebseb | nisshh: so's jono's ustream really I guess, but whatever that's fun :) | Mar 16 12:45 |
| nisshh | i just got told on my identica to go and read webupd8 | Mar 16 12:46 |
| nisshh | which is nearly as newbie oriented | Mar 16 12:46 |
| sebsebseb | webupd8 's comments tend to be reasoanbly sane | Mar 16 12:46 |
| sebsebseb | in general though | Mar 16 12:46 |
| sebsebseb | unlike omgubuntu heh heh | Mar 16 12:46 |
| sebsebseb | you know all those ignorant fan boy comments on omgubuntu | Mar 16 12:46 |
| nisshh | jono's ustream is full of idiots asking dumb questions that google knows the answer to | Mar 16 12:46 |
| MinceR | that's what he deserves | Mar 16 12:47 |
| sebsebseb | he hasn't used Fedora! | Mar 16 12:47 |
| sebsebseb | he said in that one | Mar 16 12:47 |
| sebsebseb | then I am like what, you haven't used Fedora? | Mar 16 12:47 |
| sebsebseb | and he was like well it's hard to change to another OS | Mar 16 12:47 |
| sebsebseb | when | Mar 16 12:47 |
| nisshh | heh | Mar 16 12:47 |
| MinceR | except to vista7, you know | Mar 16 12:47 |
| sebsebseb | working for Ubuntu | Mar 16 12:47 |
| sebsebseb | and he was like he had used it for an hour | Mar 16 12:47 |
| sebsebseb | I also said about how he apprnatly said he would try opensuse | Mar 16 12:47 |
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| sebsebseb | and he was like I don't remember that | Mar 16 12:48 |
| sebsebseb | anyway he's in the other channel right now, not here as useual though | Mar 16 12:48 |
| nisshh | yeah | Mar 16 12:48 |
| sebsebseb | nisshh: you should see the video though for ustream | Mar 16 12:48 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR you as well :D | Mar 16 12:48 |
| nisshh | im watching it now | Mar 16 12:48 |
| nisshh | i dont see what your talking about though | Mar 16 12:48 |
| MinceR | sounds like a waste of time | Mar 16 12:48 |
| sebsebseb | nisshh: most of it is in the second half | Mar 16 12:49 |
| sebsebseb | I am watching it as well right now | Mar 16 12:49 |
| sebsebseb | not got to it just yet though | Mar 16 12:49 |
| nisshh | yeah, i just skimmed the whole second half, i dont get it | Mar 16 12:49 |
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| sebsebseb | nisshh: so people are guessing the poster | Mar 16 12:49 |
| sebsebseb | and then on the... | Mar 16 12:49 |
| sebsebseb | well i'll say what minute it is when I get there | Mar 16 12:49 |
| sebsebseb | then towards the end someone tried to make fun of me again apparnatly | Mar 16 12:50 |
| nisshh | what if you just tell me what happens | Mar 16 12:50 |
| nisshh | it would be WAY quicker :) | Mar 16 12:50 |
| sebsebseb | 34:32 | Mar 16 12:51 |
| sebsebseb | or somethign like that | Mar 16 12:51 |
| sebsebseb | watch it from there | Mar 16 12:51 |
| nisshh | ok | Mar 16 12:51 |
| nisshh | sebsebseb, lol, you were being a crybaby you douche :) | Mar 16 12:52 |
| sebsebseb | nisshh: jono made fun of me for a joke as well lol | Mar 16 12:53 |
| sebsebseb | then there is some more of this poster and me stuff later on some where | Mar 16 12:53 |
| sebsebseb | twice or whatever | Mar 16 12:53 |
| nisshh | find it, i want to laugh :) | Mar 16 12:53 |
| sebsebseb | well people trying to make fun of me I mean lol | Mar 16 12:54 |
| nisshh | heh | Mar 16 12:54 |
| nisshh | is it before or after he plays guitar near the end? | Mar 16 12:54 |
| sebsebseb | I am watching the video nearly there | Mar 16 12:55 |
| sebsebseb | and it's all before the guitar at end | Mar 16 12:55 |
| nisshh | oh ok | Mar 16 12:55 |
| sebsebseb | nisshh: 39 minute blah de blah about leaders | Mar 16 12:56 |
| sebsebseb | and cristiism | Mar 16 12:56 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: ^ | Mar 16 12:56 |
| *nisshh looks | Mar 16 12:56 | |
| sebsebseb | nisshh: also in the first half someone mentioned the Gnome and Canonical and KDE stuff of course | Mar 16 12:56 |
| nisshh | yeah | Mar 16 12:57 |
| sebsebseb | nisshh: ok the end of the 40th minute | Mar 16 12:57 |
| sebsebseb | watch that | Mar 16 12:57 |
| nisshh | ok | Mar 16 12:58 |
| sebsebseb | nisshh: MinceR anyway that was my dose of Ubuntu fan boys and girls for now heh heh, unless I have contact with them on identica, well I may do the Friday weekly q and a if it's on | Mar 16 12:58 |
| sebsebseb | then again he doesn't copy in the names anyway | Mar 16 12:59 |
| nisshh | sebsebseb, oh poor you, they were trolling you :) | Mar 16 12:59 |
| nisshh | or trying to anyway | Mar 16 12:59 |
| sebsebseb | yeah | Mar 16 12:59 |
| MinceR | that's all they ever do anyway | Mar 16 12:59 |
| MinceR | and then they go blabbing about OnesidedRespect | Mar 16 12:59 |
| MinceR | fuck them | Mar 16 13:00 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: oh you watching it? | Mar 16 13:00 |
| MinceR | no | Mar 16 13:00 |
| MinceR | i've had my share of ubuntu trolls already | Mar 16 13:00 |
| nisshh | no, MinceR is just bitching | Mar 16 13:00 |
| nisshh | :) | Mar 16 13:00 |
| MinceR | yeah, fuck you too | Mar 16 13:00 |
| nisshh | hehe | Mar 16 13:00 |
| sebsebseb | nisshh: anyway ustream brain washes people in a way | Mar 16 13:01 |
| sebsebseb | nisshh: to think Ubuntu is really great | Mar 16 13:01 |
| sebsebseb | then again they do already most of them | Mar 16 13:01 |
| nisshh | MinceR, sorry, i was just poking fun at you :) | Mar 16 13:01 |
| nisshh | sebsebseb, yeah | Mar 16 13:01 |
| MinceR | o | Mar 16 13:01 |
| MinceR | i'm not in the mood for that | Mar 16 13:01 |
| nisshh | i noticed | Mar 16 13:01 |
| MinceR | i've spent the long weekend looking for usb analog (or hybrid) tv tuners with linux support | Mar 16 13:02 |
| MinceR | today i've found that the only one that seemed to be supported isn't available anymore | Mar 16 13:02 |
| MinceR | as soon as somebody how to figure out how to support one of these piles of crap the manufacturer immediately switches chips | Mar 16 13:02 |
| nisshh | yeah | Mar 16 13:02 |
| MinceR | preferably without relabeling the product | Mar 16 13:02 |
| MinceR | and they never last longer than a few years | Mar 16 13:03 |
| nisshh | what we need is to advance to the level of technology in star wars | Mar 16 13:04 |
| nisshh | then we can plug droids into shit | Mar 16 13:04 |
| nisshh | no proprietary stuff needed | Mar 16 13:04 |
| MinceR | if things keep going this way, they'll find a way to screw that up too | Mar 16 13:06 |
| nisshh | no doubt | Mar 16 13:06 |
| qubitar | what do you guys eat for food | Mar 16 13:34 |
| qu1j0t3 | food? | Mar 16 13:35 |
| sebsebseb | nisshh: watch it from the 47th minute by the way | Mar 16 13:35 |
| sebsebseb | nisshh: oh now it makes sense what that guy said there | Mar 16 13:38 |
| sebsebseb | jono was making fun of me again | Mar 16 13:38 |
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| qubitar | qu1j0t3 - what food | Mar 16 13:49 |
| qubitar | do you have a recipe | Mar 16 13:49 |
| qubitar | i doubt you're growing, and cooking all your food from scratch | Mar 16 13:55 |
| schestowitz | Nobody does | Mar 16 13:56 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/47880892143767552 https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/47881295589675008 | Mar 16 13:56 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @FOSSpatents: @schestowitz It's old in terms of when things happened, it's new in terms of conclusive evidence in the form of a court filing, not smear. | Mar 16 13:56 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @FOSSpatents: @schestowitz Moreover, you may remember I discussed it with a Red Hat person here on Twitter last fall and he didn't admit the "old news" | Mar 16 13:56 |
| schestowitz | More spin and diversion from him. It's not new, unless you 'dress' it as "new". | Mar 16 13:57 |
| qubitar | proprietary food is fine? | Mar 16 13:59 |
| schestowitz | Wrong scenario | Mar 16 14:00 |
| schestowitz | Like the open h/w question | Mar 16 14:00 |
| schestowitz | Which RMS is asked a lot | Mar 16 14:00 |
| qubitar | cognitive dissonance | Mar 16 14:00 |
| schestowitz | Then he takes example of a chair | Mar 16 14:00 |
| schestowitz | When you deal with the abundant (like code), rules must change | Mar 16 14:00 |
| schestowitz | Same with copyrights | Mar 16 14:00 |
| schestowitz | The "infinite bread" analogy of RMS springs to mind too | Mar 16 14:01 |
| schestowitz | Since you don't like RMS I bring that up | Mar 16 14:01 |
| qubitar | I like RMS | Mar 16 14:01 |
| qubitar | I just stopped taking it too far | Mar 16 14:01 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/67205144 | Mar 16 14:01 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @Dr. Roy Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Wednesday, 16-Mar-11 20:58:44 UTC - Identi.ca: /me very impressed with on-the-fly dual-head handling in #Fedora 14! Plug-and-play... | Mar 16 14:01 |
| *schestowitz lovs Fedora | Mar 16 14:01 | |
| schestowitz | You're an ambassador, right? | Mar 16 14:02 |
| qubitar | yeah | Mar 16 14:02 |
| qubitar | Fedora is awesome | Mar 16 14:02 |
| schestowitz | I saw you had separated FLOSS blog from other subject -- smart move | Mar 16 14:02 |
| schestowitz | I do the same | Mar 16 14:02 |
| schestowitz | Fedora could benefit from Ubuntu backlash | Mar 16 14:02 |
| schestowitz | I had some people take f14 for a test drive | Mar 16 14:03 |
| qubitar | Fedora actually works with Upstream | Mar 16 14:03 |
| schestowitz | IMHO, Ubuntu could use a little challenge | Mar 16 14:03 |
| qubitar | it doesnt take upstreams work and divert the funding | Mar 16 14:03 |
| sebsebseb | Ubuntu needs some proper competition | Mar 16 14:03 |
| sebsebseb | Fedora isn't it! | Mar 16 14:03 |
| schestowitz | Dominance made it very arrogant and its choices (e.g. ignoring the community) is symptom of that harms of this Hubris | Mar 16 14:03 |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: there's suse | Mar 16 14:03 |
| schestowitz | The community needs to grab the dev by the ears | Mar 16 14:03 |
| sebsebseb | Suse isn't it either! | Mar 16 14:03 |
| schestowitz | Not the other way around | Mar 16 14:03 |
| MinceR | same agenda, etc. | Mar 16 14:03 |
| sebsebseb | in fact none of the current distro's are | Mar 16 14:04 |
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| qubitar | if you don't like Fedora i'd recommend opensuse | Mar 16 14:04 |
| qubitar | i wouldn't recommend anything else | Mar 16 14:04 |
| schestowitz | And if Ubuntu slurped most GNU Linux users and got this way, then it's time for it to slip enough to have more competiton... would be good for everyone | Mar 16 14:04 |
| sebsebseb | opensuse is linked to Novell though | Mar 16 14:04 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz and MinceR beloved Novell | Mar 16 14:04 |
| sebsebseb | :D | Mar 16 14:04 |
| MinceR | not really | Mar 16 14:04 |
| schestowitz | AttachMSFT | Mar 16 14:05 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: is it really called AttachMSFT now? | Mar 16 14:05 |
| qubitar | im convinced opensuse has enough of its own power | Mar 16 14:05 |
| sebsebseb | is it offical? | Mar 16 14:05 |
| schestowitz | Paul Singer&Ballmer | Mar 16 14:05 |
| qubitar | if novell really did hold all the strings, KDE wouldn't have made it to default desktop | Mar 16 14:05 |
| MinceR | i hated back when novell netware lite couldn't make two PCs see each other | Mar 16 14:05 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: no you love all these companeis really espesaily Canonical, Microsoft, and Apple, in most loved order | Mar 16 14:05 |
| schestowitz | The odeo show of Hawn the bison slayer, Darl McBride from Novell, and Yarro | Mar 16 14:06 |
| MinceR | i wonder how you arrived at that order | Mar 16 14:06 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: heh I am messing with you again :) | Mar 16 14:06 |
| MinceR | you're doing it wrong | Mar 16 14:06 |
| schestowitz | LOL | Mar 16 14:06 |
| sebsebseb | uh yeah maybe | Mar 16 14:06 |
| qubitar | sebsebseb what would you suggest over Fedora and openSUSE | Mar 16 14:06 |
| schestowitz | standup comedy from the resident sebsebseb | Mar 16 14:06 |
| sebsebseb | qubitar: Mandriva, PC Linux OS, and Mageia when it's more developed :) | Mar 16 14:06 |
| qubitar | ahhh | Mar 16 14:07 |
| qubitar | you're on that mandriva base | Mar 16 14:07 |
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| schestowitz | PC Linus OS lost some momentum | Mar 16 14:07 |
| schestowitz | It's not dead, just not as visible | Mar 16 14:07 |
| sebsebseb | or a lot of momentum it lost | Mar 16 14:07 |
| sebsebseb | Mageia has a chance at gaining quite a lot of market share, when more developed I think :) | Mar 16 14:07 |
| qubitar | competition is good | Mar 16 14:07 |
| schestowitz | And a couple of weeks ago I updates a mate;s machine that I put pclos on... some repos were not there | Mar 16 14:07 |
| sebsebseb | as long as the community is strong :) | Mar 16 14:07 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: yes libio was being re done and such | Mar 16 14:08 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: repo's are fine now | Mar 16 14:08 |
| schestowitz | Not just that | Mar 16 14:08 |
| qubitar | opensuse has a lot of features I want fedora to copy | Mar 16 14:08 |
| qubitar | lol | Mar 16 14:08 |
| schestowitz | I was trying to find ekiga on repos | Mar 16 14:08 |
| sebsebseb | qubitar: also Linux Mint based on Ubuntu isn't that bad really, and of course there's Linux Mint Debian Edition as well | Mar 16 14:08 |
| schestowitz | So I marked/ticked all of them | Mar 16 14:08 |
| schestowitz | They used to have games repos | Mar 16 14:08 |
| sebsebseb | qubitar: in fact I am much more impressed with Mint now, than I used to be, because Ubuntu itself, is getting so bad now really | Mar 16 14:08 |
| qubitar | sebsebseb I have a personal preference to avoid deb based distros | Mar 16 14:08 |
| sebsebseb | and Mint is like, nice graphics | Mar 16 14:09 |
| schestowitz | PCLinuxOS is rock solid anyway | Mar 16 14:09 |
| sebsebseb | nice mint menu | Mar 16 14:09 |
| schestowitz | Mint is as good as Ubuntu... because of what it is | Mar 16 14:09 |
| sebsebseb | Mint has everything I like from Ubuntu, looking nicer, and some added user friendly, basicalley | Mar 16 14:09 |
| schestowitz | But it's even less liberal than Ubuntu | Mar 16 14:09 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: Mint is better than Ubuntu now really | Mar 16 14:09 |
| schestowitz | Seems so | Mar 16 14:09 |
| schestowitz | Although I haven;'t tried ubuntu 10.10 | Mar 16 14:09 |
| schestowitz | Just 10.0 LTS on some boxes | Mar 16 14:10 |
| schestowitz | *04 | Mar 16 14:10 |
| qubitar | I tried Kubuntu 10.10 | Mar 16 14:10 |
| sebsebseb | well 10.10 is pretty similar to 10.04, just the theme got a tiny bit better, and there's a sound menu as well | Mar 16 14:10 |
| sebsebseb | for example | Mar 16 14:10 |
| qubitar | it was smart enough to figure out I had a netbook and used the interface | Mar 16 14:10 |
| sebsebseb | qubitar: or you mean KDE was smart enough to figure that out | Mar 16 14:11 |
| sebsebseb | anyway Kubuntu is very close to upsteram KDE | Mar 16 14:11 |
| sebsebseb | as far as I know | Mar 16 14:11 |
| qubitar | sebsebseb - no, opensuse and fedora didnt detect my netbook | Mar 16 14:11 |
| sebsebseb | I mean the not changing the theme and so on | Mar 16 14:11 |
| qubitar | i had to manually enable the netbook interface | Mar 16 14:11 |
| sebsebseb | oh ok | Mar 16 14:11 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: https://twitter.com/#!/rubberstamprosk/status/48127625599787008 | Mar 16 14:14 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @rubberstamprosk: How The Wealthy Plan to Finance The American Aristocracy With Middle Class Dollars http://bit.ly/eozK3I #youcut #pledge #gopwwf #p2 #tcot | Mar 16 14:14 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | -> Title: How The Wealthy Plan to Finance The American Aristocracy With Middle Class Dollars - Rick Ungar - The Policy Page - Forbes .::. Size~: 183.87 KB | Mar 16 14:14 |
| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: not now :-) | Mar 16 14:26 |
| schestowitz | I'm trying to get other work done without getting annoyed by the world's real leaders stomping on everyone :-) | Mar 16 14:27 |
| qubitar | they're buying off the poor with a cut of that pie | Mar 16 14:27 |
| schestowitz | Coding 9-5 is a lot of fun for the time being. My code and data are located at /home/schestow again for others to audit and there are many meetings, as opposed to working via SSH from home (which is what I'll do when the connection is back). | Mar 16 14:28 |
| schestowitz | pairs of 3d datasets will be added to my account for experiments this week. I must say I enjoy the project! And we do some heavy work with clusters. | Mar 16 14:28 |
| schestowitz | qubitar: as always | Mar 16 14:28 |
| schestowitz | But a lot of people need to be shown that | Mar 16 14:29 |
| qubitar | gtg be back on ender later | Mar 16 14:29 |
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| Valbowski | hey guys. Any came across a troubleshoot guide for buggy printer drivers making spoolsrv.exe leak handles? | Mar 16 14:41 |
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| schestowitz | http://openbytes.wordpress.com/2011/03/09/windows-7-app-sales-error-next-web-gets-corrected-by-dev/ | Mar 16 15:19 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Windows 7 app sales error? โ Next Web gets corrected by developer ยซ OpenBytes .::. Size~: 44.05 KB | Mar 16 15:19 |
| schestowitz | *LOL* Microsoft is still planting articles? | Mar 16 15:19 |
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| Quadrescence | schestowitz: do you know anything about probate (in the USA)? | Mar 16 17:13 |
| schestowitz | No, why? | Mar 16 17:14 |
| Quadrescence | schestowitz: Just because there's a company whose software is in probate because the owner died, and a former CEO is/was trying to open source it. | Mar 16 17:19 |
| Quadrescence | I just wanted to know more | Mar 16 17:19 |
| schestowitz | doesn't ring a bell. Toby might know | Mar 16 17:25 |
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| schestowitz | Rather than leap to the next experiment while data is not available today I will start building a nice, interactive GUI. :-) | Mar 17 01:42 |
| schestowitz | I love GUIs | Mar 17 01:42 |
| schestowitz | http://schestowitz.com/Projects/AART_Public/ | Mar 17 01:42 |
| schestowitz | http://schestowitz.com/MARS/ | Mar 17 01:42 |
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| schestowitz | http://schestowitz.com/Projects/AART/ | Mar 17 01:42 |
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| schestowitz | I'm good with those particular aspects of MATLAB and MathWorks once offered me help writing a book about it (I was ranked first in the world at MATLAB Central at the time). | Mar 17 01:42 |
| oiaohm | I bet they are kicking themselves now. schestowitz | Mar 17 02:08 |
| oiaohm | The worse nightmare is a cloner who knows the tech inside out. | Mar 17 02:08 |
| schestowitz | Yes, I haven't had the time yet to go out and speak to people who want to move to Octave | Mar 17 02:16 |
| schestowitz | First I need the phone line up and then I need to speak to my friend Neil | Mar 17 02:16 |
| schestowitz | This week I use my paid job to 1) learn MATLAB/Octave diffs better; 2) well, pay the bills; 3) produce Free software and papers I'll put up on my site later | Mar 17 02:17 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: how's your paper coming along? | Mar 17 02:17 |
| schestowitz | OK, I need to go now. Will be back tonight... | Mar 17 02:25 |
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| MinceR | http://punditkitchen.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/political-pictures-japan-tsunami-christian-aid.jpg | Mar 17 07:20 |
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| sebsebseb | Hi | Mar 17 09:49 |
| FurnaceBoy | hi | Mar 17 09:53 |
| MinceR | hay | Mar 17 09:55 |
| sebsebseb | FurnaceBoy: MinceR hi | Mar 17 10:02 |
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| MinceR | btw, a dent from FMtroll somehow made it into #techrights today :> | Mar 17 15:19 |
| schestowitz | maybe he started denting | Mar 17 15:20 |
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| sebsebseb | hi | Mar 18 10:21 |
| qubitar | ho | Mar 18 11:46 |
| MinceR | that isn't very polite :> | Mar 18 11:47 |
| qubitar | have you been living under a rock? | Mar 18 11:47 |
| qubitar | or inside one? | Mar 18 11:48 |
| FurnaceBoy | hi | Mar 18 11:49 |
| qubitar | http://www.qubitarkhive.com/music/introduction.flac | Mar 18 11:53 |
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| qubitar | roy!!! | Mar 18 13:00 |
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| schestowitz | hi | Mar 18 13:00 |
| FurnaceBoy | hi | Mar 18 13:03 |
| schestowitz | I'll dent a bit today as I got spare banwidth to spend. BT mailed me today.... a few more days before normality | Mar 18 13:07 |
| schestowitz | Although it has been somewhat productive to be offline.. https://identi.ca/notice/67428262 | Mar 18 13:07 |
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| TechrightsBot-sc | Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-sc running phIRCe v0.53 | Mar 18 13:08 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/67428262 | Mar 18 13:08 |
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| TechrightsBot-sc | @Dr. Roy Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Friday, 18-Mar-11 20:05:55 UTC - Identi.ca: Fedora, Importance of GNU/Linux Competition, and Technological Freedom http://ur1.ca/3kj0s #fedora #gnu #linux #freedom | Mar 18 13:08 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | -> Title: schestowitz.com ยป Blog Archive ยป Fedora, Importance of GNU/Linux Competition, and Technological Freedom .::. Size~: 37.46 KB | Mar 18 13:08 |
| schestowitz | http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-12688839 | Mar 18 13:28 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: BBC News - Home wi-fi '30% slower' than fixed broadband .::. Size~: 56.28 KB | Mar 18 13:28 |
| schestowitz | Mobile broadband speeds are actually decent, but throttled | Mar 18 13:28 |
| schestowitz | One of my monitors is knackered and the prices of monitors have oddly enough not come down in the past 3 years ?!!?!?!!!!# http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Monitors/24%26quot%3B+Monitors/ | Mar 18 13:47 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: 24 inch tft monitors - Aria Technology .::. Size~: 52.04 KB | Mar 18 13:47 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: https://identi.ca/notice/67431748 | Mar 18 13:47 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @Stรยฉphane Marguet (stemp)'s status on Friday, 18-Mar-11 20:39:56 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz No no no please ! No OSuX, ,nor M$. If you have arguments, you don't need name's calling :/ | Mar 18 13:47 |
| MinceR | yes, bow before the holy dignity of crApple and m$ | Mar 18 13:48 |
| schestowitz | I like "OSux", it's funny | Mar 18 13:48 |
| MinceR | respect them for all the great things they've done, such as... what exactly? | Mar 18 13:48 |
| schestowitz | Branding achievements | Mar 18 13:48 |
| qubitar | monitors came down since I purchased my last one | Mar 18 13:54 |
| qubitar | $230 for my 19 inch a few years ago | Mar 18 13:54 |
| qubitar | now 20+ is $120ish | Mar 18 13:55 |
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| schestowitz | I bought a 24'inch in 2008 for about 150 (IIRC) | Mar 18 14:07 |
| schestowitz | Now the cheapest one is about 130 (same size) | Mar 18 14:07 |
| schestowitz | Memory and magnetic storage cost fall much much faster | Mar 18 14:07 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/67433227 | Mar 18 14:08 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @Stefano Maffulli (smaffulli)'s status on Friday, 18-Mar-11 20:53:39 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Google search results are different for everybody. What's the important news? | Mar 18 14:08 |
| schestowitz | Peter Brown has stepped down | Mar 18 14:08 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/ircolle/status/48847795976810496 | Mar 18 14:09 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @ircolle: Better link: http://bit.ly/gfHgoK RT @schestowitz: Important news about FSF head stepping down not covered by mainstream press. | Mar 18 14:09 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | -> Title: Open Source Report: Free Software Foundation has a new executive director .::. Size~: 75.56 KB | Mar 18 14:09 |
| MinceR | so did Bradley Kuhn and yet the world didn't end :> | Mar 18 14:09 |
| schestowitz | when? | Mar 18 14:10 |
| schestowitz | Recently? | Mar 18 14:10 |
| schestowitz | He rejoined | Mar 18 14:10 |
| MinceR | afaik he was the previous executive director before Peter Brown | Mar 18 14:12 |
| schestowitz | http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hUNJm_2C09zXzYlqrYEXHNOGp17g?docId=5f92143a51e34e398156a72f312a63b4 | Mar 18 14:12 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: The Associated Press: Goldman Sachs in Kremlin investment fund talks .::. Size~: 9.63 KB | Mar 18 14:12 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: pete left after the fundraiser | Mar 18 14:12 |
| MinceR | did he state his reasons? | Mar 18 14:13 |
| schestowitz | And they can't seem to get much traction in a world of self-acclaimed pragmatists | Mar 18 14:13 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: no | Mar 18 14:13 |
| schestowitz | He wants a break, he says | Mar 18 14:13 |
| schestowitz | So not snatched for a big wage | Mar 18 14:13 |
| schestowitz | *LOL* The Onion treated like a household name now? http://osdir.com/Article10717.phtml | Mar 18 14:16 |
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| schestowitz | I bet he therefore pushed this into /. FP by submitting self-produced lies | Mar 18 14:17 |
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| schestowitz | Monitoring work today.... I read about the mysql headache in the mailing lists. Glad it's dealt with, nagios keeps the major errors away before they can even affect operation. | Mar 19 02:00 |
| schestowitz | So not much denting until tonight | Mar 19 02:00 |
| schestowitz | Just to inform you, BT comes to enable my broadband on Tuesday. Until then I carry on using a dongle, but O2 mobile broadband appears to be hostile towards VPN, which means I use lynx on the servers (over SSH) to access the resources I need. Next week will be simpler :-) | Mar 19 02:16 |
| schestowitz | Just got: "Glad to see you're back and almost back up to your normal prodigious self...haha." | Mar 19 02:17 |
| schestowitz | Unless there are objections, I will avoid politics in my dents, I think | Mar 19 02:17 |
| schestowitz | To the extent possible anyway | Mar 19 02:17 |
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| schestowitz | I think o2 blocks vpn... o2 mobile broadband | Mar 19 09:22 |
| schestowitz | What rubbish | Mar 19 09:22 |
| qu1j0t3 | which vpn? | Mar 19 09:27 |
| qu1j0t3 | you can probably just use a different vpn they don't block :) | Mar 19 09:28 |
| schestowitz | openvpn | Mar 19 09:36 |
| qu1j0t3 | hm, my favourite :) | Mar 19 09:39 |
| qu1j0t3 | tried switching ports? | Mar 19 09:39 |
| qu1j0t3 | do you think they inspect packets? | Mar 19 09:39 |
| schestowitz | It doesn't matter much | Mar 19 09:47 |
| schestowitz | In 3 days I get a proper BT connection | Mar 19 09:47 |
| schestowitz | Unlimited | Mar 19 09:47 |
| schestowitz | SSH+Xfest will commence :-) | Mar 19 09:47 |
| schestowitz | http://www.osor.eu/news/de-company-network-to-be-funded-to-develop-open-source-business-software-1 | Mar 19 09:50 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: DE: Company network to be funded to develop open source business software โ .::. Size~: 30.07 KB | Mar 19 09:50 |
| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: what would you say if me (or anyone) decided to not cover as much political stuff in twitter? | Mar 19 09:51 |
| qu1j0t3 | it's your call, i wouldn't judge anyone for it | Mar 19 09:52 |
| qu1j0t3 | priorities change | Mar 19 09:52 |
| qu1j0t3 | i am tweeting less | Mar 19 09:52 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: it's very likely that i will accept a full time offer i received | Mar 19 09:53 |
| schestowitz | Congrats | Mar 19 09:53 |
| schestowitz | The political stuff can fall on deaf ears if people subscribe based on one's FOSS content | Mar 19 09:55 |
| schestowitz | Not deceptive to political signal | Mar 19 09:55 |
| schestowitz | And I saw you too left the wikileaks avatar (assange) behind for now | Mar 19 09:56 |
| qu1j0t3 | for now... | Mar 19 10:09 |
| schestowitz | They are still angry at Guardian\ | Mar 19 10:13 |
| schestowitz | The Guardian happily attacks Wikileaks for kicks | Mar 19 10:13 |
| schestowitz | While getting millions in kickbacks from Bill Gates to worship him and his wife | Mar 19 10:14 |
| schestowitz | That paper starts making me sick | Mar 19 10:14 |
| schestowitz | And since RMS links to it a lot, I thought about staying out of that area of "progressives" (funded by Gates) | Mar 19 10:14 |
| schestowitz | RMS has eventsecond link linking them. I don't fault RMS, but reading him leads me to citing The Grauniad | Mar 19 10:15 |
| schestowitz | Wikileaks=bad | Mar 19 10:15 |
| schestowitz | GAtes monopolisation=admirable | Mar 19 10:15 |
| schestowitz | Thanks, Grauniad | Mar 19 10:15 |
| qu1j0t3 | right, thinks are not improving much | Mar 19 10:21 |
| qu1j0t3 | things* | Mar 19 10:21 |
| schestowitz | I know | Mar 19 10:22 |
| schestowitz | Well, more to write about to teach people, on the upside, I guess... | Mar 19 10:23 |
| schestowitz | http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/techchron/detail?entry_id=84205 http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/techchron/detail?entry_id=84434 I don't get it. Why did he become so famous all of a sudden? Some TV show breakthrough? | Mar 19 10:24 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: @charliesheen sets new Twitter speed record? Zero to 1 million in 24 hours : The Technology Chronicles .::. Size~: 69.8 KB | Mar 19 10:24 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Charlie Sheen joins Ustream : The Technology Chronicles .::. Size~: 66.89 KB | Mar 19 10:24 |
| schestowitz | Now he's like a meme, but I'm not entirely sure how/why | Mar 19 10:25 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: bad behaviour in a culture that values bad behaviour. | Mar 19 10:25 |
| schestowitz | That's counter-intuitive and the impression I got too | Mar 19 10:25 |
| qu1j0t3 | it's not counterintuitive. | Mar 19 10:25 |
| schestowitz | Like pulling a knife on (ex) wife | Mar 19 10:25 |
| qu1j0t3 | it's what we have already proven | Mar 19 10:25 |
| qu1j0t3 | yes | Mar 19 10:25 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: almost everything is backward. | Mar 19 10:25 |
| qu1j0t3 | Manning is tortured, Bush walks | Mar 19 10:26 |
| schestowitz | Heh | Mar 19 10:26 |
| schestowitz | Counter-culture | Mar 19 10:26 |
| qu1j0t3 | etc etc etc | Mar 19 10:26 |
| qu1j0t3 | thieves are feted | Mar 19 10:26 |
| schestowitz | And he hangs around with some conpiracists too | Mar 19 10:26 |
| qu1j0t3 | honest men attacked | Mar 19 10:26 |
| schestowitz | RMS | Mar 19 10:26 |
| qu1j0t3 | Sheen, the violent maniac, rewarded, treated as the pinnacle of success | Mar 19 10:26 |
| qu1j0t3 | ditto Gates, the ultimate con man | Mar 19 10:26 |
| schestowitz | I guess RMS' mistake is that he goes against wealth | Mar 19 10:27 |
| qu1j0t3 | his mistake is having principles | Mar 19 10:27 |
| schestowitz | Never screw with TV produces and Hollywood | Mar 19 10:27 |
| qu1j0t3 | in that culture, it's a crime to be honest | Mar 19 10:27 |
| schestowitz | Screwing the small people=OK (see Goldman Sachs) | Mar 19 10:27 |
| qu1j0t3 | yes | Mar 19 10:27 |
| schestowitz | Stalking from people more powerful than you -> Madoff | Mar 19 10:27 |
| schestowitz | *Stealing | Mar 19 10:27 |
| qu1j0t3 | destroy foreign societies with bombs, destroy domestic society with the neutron bomb of fraud | Mar 19 10:28 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: at a minimum you should read this: https://twitter.com/#!/rubberstamprosk/status/48127625599787008 https://twitter.com/#!/qu1j0t3/status/48532385230372864 | Mar 19 10:32 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @rubberstamprosk: How The Wealthy Plan to Finance The American Aristocracy With Middle Class Dollars http://bit.ly/eozK3I #youcut #pledge #gopwwf #p2 #tcot | Mar 19 10:32 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | -> Title: How The Wealthy Plan to Finance The American Aristocracy With Middle Class Dollars - Rick Ungar - The Policy Page - Forbes .::. Size~: 196.19 KB | Mar 19 10:32 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @qu1j0t3: 'In [American] version of air "war,"..the killing &the dying are perfectly and precisely..separated. We kill, they die' http://shar.es/3Q7df | Mar 19 10:32 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | -> Title: Taking the "war" out of air war - War Room - Salon.com .::. Size~: 79.32 KB | Mar 19 10:32 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/66335539 | Mar 19 10:33 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @Georg C. F. Greve (greve)'s status on Monday, 07-Mar-11 13:06:14 UTC - Identi.ca: Dear Universities, are you listening? Free Software competency is almost a job guarantee these days! | Mar 19 10:33 |
| schestowitz | Thanks, I'll add those | Mar 19 10:33 |
| qu1j0t3 | the air war thing is something i've been thinking about for a long time | Mar 19 10:34 |
| qu1j0t3 | it's an abuse of language once again | Mar 19 10:34 |
| qu1j0t3 | it's no definition of 'war' | Mar 19 10:34 |
| qu1j0t3 | just as israel is not waging a 'war' on palestine. there is no 'battle', no 'conflict'. | Mar 19 10:34 |
| qu1j0t3 | what it is is one over-funded nation throwing ordnance at the helpless. | Mar 19 10:34 |
| qu1j0t3 | that's what US/Israel call 'war' | Mar 19 10:35 |
| schestowitz | zinn, once a bombardier, had interesting things to say about air war | Mar 19 10:39 |
| schestowitz | !google youtube kreisler conversation in history zinn | Mar 19 10:39 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | [1] - YouTube - Conversations with History: Howard Zinn | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DIMt7cFFKPeM | Mar 19 10:39 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | [2] - YouTube - Conversations with History - Harry Kreisler | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DoTMQLkHzNk0 | Mar 19 10:39 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | [3] - YouTube - Conversations With History: Political Awakenings | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3Dr-j2pCHWw1s | Mar 19 10:39 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | [4] - Conversations with History | University of California, Berkeley | http://conversations.berkeley.edu/ | Mar 19 10:39 |
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| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: http://www.infowars.com/world-war-iii-one-nation-at-a-time/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter | Mar 19 14:03 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: ยป World War III: One Nation at a Time Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind! .::. Size~: 54.93 KB | Mar 19 14:03 |
| qu1j0t3 | "They have created a perfect system, a strategy of tension, where we wrestle with one battle after another, work to head-off one war after another, expose meddling and subversion in one nation after another all while their agenda moves ever forward. | Mar 19 14:03 |
| schestowitz | I don't pay much attention to them | Mar 19 15:56 |
| schestowitz | They said too much stuff that harms their credibility and the comparison of today's West to Nazism is not helping | Mar 19 15:56 |
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| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: http://reason.com/archives/2011/03/09/tiny-cuts-big-complaints | Mar 20 03:30 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Tiny Cuts, Big Complaints - Reason Magazine .::. Size~: 194.37 KB | Mar 20 03:30 |
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| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: https://twitter.com/#!/mediaguardian/status/49552408300359680 | Mar 20 12:48 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @mediaguardian: BBC World Service to sign funding deal with US state department http://gu.com/p/2nq3j/tf | Mar 20 12:48 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: W. T. F. | Mar 20 12:48 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | -> Title: BBC World Service to sign funding deal with US state department | Media | The Guardian .::. Size~: 92.54 KB | Mar 20 12:48 |
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| schestowitz | no disguise of independence then | Mar 20 13:28 |
| qu1j0t3 | astonishing | Mar 20 13:37 |
| schestowitz | Not really | Mar 20 13:50 |
| schestowitz | If it said Murdoch I'd be angry | Mar 20 13:50 |
| schestowitz | For Clinton to use the BBC to carry on the agenda of foreign policy trend setting and wikileaks smaering is normal | Mar 20 13:51 |
| qu1j0t3 | but funding???? | Mar 20 13:51 |
| schestowitz | !google george orwell quits bbc | Mar 20 13:51 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | [1] - George Orwell Timeline of Important Dates | http://www.shmoop.com/george-orwell/timeline.html | Mar 20 13:51 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | [2] - BBC NEWS | UK | How to make a perfect cuppa | http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk/3016342.stm | Mar 20 13:51 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | [3] - W. Scott Lucas Special Commissioned Entry on George Orwell Criticism | http://www.enotes.com/twentieth-century-criticism/special-commissioned-entry-george-orwell-w-scott | Mar 20 13:51 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | [4] - YouTube - 9/11 And The BBC Conspiracy part 1 | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3D7vhT2JMH4OU | Mar 20 13:51 |
| qu1j0t3 | i remain astonished | Mar 20 13:51 |
| schestowitz | Yes | Mar 20 13:51 |
| schestowitz | To add "objectivism" | Mar 20 13:51 |
| schestowitz | We thought we were paying for that | Mar 20 13:51 |
| schestowitz | Apparently, Clinton does too | Mar 20 13:52 |
| qu1j0t3 | it formalises the role of the bbc as an agent of us foreign policy | Mar 20 13:52 |
| schestowitz | Which beats the purpose really | Mar 20 13:52 |
| qu1j0t3 | i mean we knew it was doing that in effect, but not formally | Mar 20 13:52 |
| schestowitz | Yes, good for mental note and one's bookmark/reflist :-) | Mar 20 13:52 |
| schestowitz | Actually, I should blog it.. | Mar 20 13:52 |
| schestowitz | Give me a while, I know where it fits... | Mar 20 13:52 |
| schestowitz | BBC WOrld Service is run by a Microsoft UK guy | Mar 20 13:53 |
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| sebsebseb | hi | Mar 21 07:56 |
| qu1j0t3 | hi | Mar 21 07:59 |
| sebsebseb | Amundsen-Scott South Pole Station: Freezing fog -28 o in the air C | Mar 21 08:00 |
| sebsebseb | feels like 82.0 o in the air C | Mar 21 08:00 |
| sebsebseb | qu1j0t3: I put in the first number wrong that's -58 | Mar 21 08:00 |
| sebsebseb | anyway that's cold and this is according to Gnome weather | Mar 21 08:01 |
| qu1j0t3 | yes, that's cold, but not unusual for the location :D | Mar 21 08:04 |
| sebsebseb | qu1j0t3: MinceR http://desktoplinuxreviews.com/2011/03/16/fusion-14-thorium/ | Mar 21 08:04 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Fusion 14 Thorium | Desktop Linux Reviews .::. Size~: 100.24 KB | Mar 21 08:04 |
| sebsebseb | and there's a video looks pretty interesting really | Mar 21 08:05 |
| sebsebseb | going to watch the video properly now :) | Mar 21 08:05 |
| sebsebseb | and yeah Fedora can be quite user friendly as this shows | Mar 21 08:05 |
| MinceR | hm, i don't remember reading about Fusion before | Mar 21 08:05 |
| MinceR | but the basic idea is interesting indeed | Mar 21 08:06 |
| sebsebseb | yeah indeed I don't remember reading about it before either | Mar 21 08:06 |
| sebsebseb | also that's something a Fedora based distro with the Mint menu | Mar 21 08:06 |
| sebsebseb | not just codecs and what not | Mar 21 08:06 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: also it has some sort of termainl set up program even for some stuff as the review show's, I'll have to vm this distro as well of course :) | Mar 21 08:07 |
| sebsebseb | I don't think Fedora itself is good enough to compete properly against Ubuntu, but this Fusion distro hmm :D | Mar 21 08:07 |
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| sebsebseb | MinceR: qu1j0t3 Seen the video and yeah it's like Mint, but for Fedora and with much more apps | Mar 21 08:28 |
| sebsebseb | nisshh: about at all? | Mar 21 08:31 |
| MinceR | installing banshee (mono) by default is not so nice | Mar 21 08:34 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: it has Gnome Do as part of it as well | Mar 21 08:35 |
| sebsebseb | you watching video or something? | Mar 21 08:35 |
| sebsebseb | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JT3dQ9ohLE4&feature=feedu | Mar 21 08:35 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: YouTube - Fusion Linux 14 Review - Linux Distro Reviews .::. Size~: 85.95 KB | Mar 21 08:35 |
| MinceR | nope, just reading the review | Mar 21 08:35 |
| sebsebseb | it's still quite impressive | Mar 21 08:36 |
| sebsebseb | by the looks of it going by the review and video | Mar 21 08:36 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: also loads of distro's do Mono stuff by default, Ubuntu being a prime example | Mar 21 08:37 |
| MinceR | i'm aware of it | Mar 21 08:38 |
| MinceR | and i'm not happy about it | Mar 21 08:38 |
| sebsebseb | anyway check out the video for fusion LInux :) | Mar 21 08:39 |
| sebsebseb | pretty good | Mar 21 08:39 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: Mint menu is pretty nice | Mar 21 08:40 |
| sebsebseb | yes it's a Gnome 2 patch, but not made by Canonical/Ubuntu and one that is pretty good really :) | Mar 21 08:40 |
| MinceR | indeed | Mar 21 08:41 |
| MinceR | i'm not sure if i'd want to use the gnome panel though | Mar 21 08:41 |
| sebsebseb | applications places and system you mean or? | Mar 21 08:41 |
| sebsebseb | I would have that at the top as well :) | Mar 21 08:42 |
| sebsebseb | like I did with the install of Linux Mint 9 (based on Ubuntu 10.04) that I did for my brother in Jan | Mar 21 08:42 |
| sebsebseb | older brother | Mar 21 08:42 |
| MinceR | i mean gnome-panel | Mar 21 08:42 |
| sebsebseb | uh what's wrong with the Gnome 2 panels? | Mar 21 08:42 |
| MinceR | if i did, i'd of course replace the wordy menus with one | Mar 21 08:42 |
| sebsebseb | the wordy menus ? | Mar 21 08:42 |
| MinceR | the ones you mentioned | Mar 21 08:43 |
| sebsebseb | there's an option in Gnome 2 so can have a | Mar 21 08:43 |
| sebsebseb | well | Mar 21 08:43 |
| sebsebseb | menu list instead | Mar 21 08:43 |
| MinceR | well, i'm not sure yet if i will be able to configure gnome-panel for the new desktop layout i'm planning as i want to | Mar 21 08:43 |
| sebsebseb | like a start menu in Windows | Mar 21 08:43 |
| MinceR | yes, i used that | Mar 21 08:43 |
| sebsebseb | XP | Mar 21 08:43 |
| sebsebseb | 95 28 | Mar 21 08:43 |
| sebsebseb | uh 98 | Mar 21 08:43 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: anyway for Ubuntu 11.04 the Ubuntu classic mode | Mar 21 08:43 |
| sebsebseb | will have | Mar 21 08:43 |
| sebsebseb | that | Mar 21 08:43 |
| MinceR | well, more like KDE, since the button is just an icon then | Mar 21 08:43 |
| sebsebseb | and | Mar 21 08:44 |
| sebsebseb | it's getting the global menu | Mar 21 08:44 |
| sebsebseb | in a way I should say already has those, since it already does in development for quite a while now | Mar 21 08:44 |
| MinceR | i stopped caring for ubuntu | Mar 21 08:44 |
| sebsebseb | the global menu, the window buttons in the panel thing, uh :( | Mar 21 08:44 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: I think Fusion Linux may be a distro for me to start doing support for :D | Mar 21 08:44 |
| sebsebseb | here and there | Mar 21 08:45 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: now what I do is I don't help with Ubuntu anymore, and help with other distro's here and there instead :D | Mar 21 08:45 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: well if they got an IRC channel hmm | Mar 21 08:46 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: uh something odd going on with my computer now it seems, or my browser anyway Firefox hmm | Mar 21 08:47 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: ok want to test something for me? | Mar 21 08:49 |
| sebsebseb | maybe not quite the best thing to test though | Mar 21 08:49 |
| MinceR | can't do it now, leaving work right now :> | Mar 21 08:50 |
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| sebsebseb | MinceR: seems the site I was trying to go onto earlier has been cracked into by the way, hence the redirect to a slightly odd page | Mar 21 11:30 |
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| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/67705778 | Mar 21 14:03 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @G. Forbes (goforbes28)'s status on Monday, 21-Mar-11 12:05:49 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz No problem. I saved the edit in the wiki yesterday. | Mar 21 14:03 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: Firefox 4 tommorow and I am not looking forward! | Mar 21 14:24 |
| schestowitz | It's not in repos, is it? | Mar 21 15:09 |
| schestowitz | Firefox has been crashing a lot for me this past week, I don't known why | Mar 21 15:09 |
| schestowitz | Usually it happens one a month, not once a day | Mar 21 15:09 |
| qu1j0t3 | heh | Mar 21 15:09 |
| schestowitz | You too? | Mar 21 15:37 |
| schestowitz | I was trying to think if they pushed a silence auto-update for security reasons | Mar 21 15:37 |
| schestowitz | But nothing I can think of... or noticed... it puts me off really. I already have chromium as fallback if Firefox makes me as furious as the bank made me today | Mar 21 15:38 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/49957201653141504 | Mar 21 15:41 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @FOSSpatents: @schestowitz Saw your article. I'm not "jubilant" about any patent infringement suit. I wonder which statement in my post makes you think so | Mar 21 15:41 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/ender2070/status/49960980221931520 | Mar 21 15:42 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @ender2070: @vioma @Enderle @FOSSpatents sounds like we got an #msft convention going down ;) /cc @schestowitz | Mar 21 15:42 |
| schestowitz | yes, they do tend to exchanged and share food idea, O'Gara and Ed Bought too | Mar 21 15:42 |
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| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: no, Ffx hasn't crashed on me much lately. | Mar 21 16:42 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: sure it's not Flash? | Mar 21 16:42 |
| schestowitz | Not likely given preceding activity | Mar 21 16:57 |
| schestowitz | Wordpress mostly | Mar 21 16:57 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/RealHPT/status/49982587829096449 | Mar 21 17:13 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @RealHPT: @schestowitz Yes, but step in right direction. Resistance due to legacy expectations, but newer generation adapts easily with an open mind. | Mar 21 17:13 |
| schestowitz | Exactly. | Mar 21 17:13 |
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| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: you can't escape, you know. :) ---------> http://walt.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2011/03/21/what_intervention_in_libya_tells_us_about_the_neocon_liberal_alliance?sms_ss=twitter&at_xt=4d8808790fb760f3,1 | Mar 21 19:27 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: What intervention in Libya tells us about the neocon-liberal alliance - By Stephen M. Walt | Stephen M. Walt .::. Size~: 100.18 KB | Mar 21 19:27 |
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| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/67777635 | Mar 22 00:42 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @qu1j0t3's status on Tuesday, 22-Mar-11 01:17:04 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz there's already a gnu tee ... or is that the joke? | Mar 22 00:42 |
| schestowitz | tim called goatee gnutee | Mar 22 00:43 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/67777706 | Mar 22 00:43 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @qu1j0t3's status on Tuesday, 22-Mar-11 01:17:53 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz I thought F/OSS people all hated Opera anyway? [new Groups also crashes Opera 10.x, but apparently Opera's bug; 10.x is flaky] | Mar 22 00:43 |
| schestowitz | decent broswer, but proprietary | Mar 22 00:43 |
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| sebsebseb | Hi | Mar 22 08:29 |
| qu1j0t3 | hi | Mar 22 08:32 |
| sebsebseb | qu1j0t3: Firefox 4 is out, but it probably hasn't changed much since Beta 10, which means I won't like certain things | Mar 22 08:33 |
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| MinceR | http://www.reddit.com/r/atheism/comments/g8tgl/give_a_man_a_fish_and_youll_feed_him_for_a_day/ | Mar 22 15:32 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Give a man a fish and๏ปฟ youโll feed him for a day. Give him a religion, and heโll starve to death while praying for a fish. : atheism .::. Size~: 424.86 KB | Mar 22 15:33 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: Firefox 4 I really am not impressed | Mar 22 15:51 |
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| MinceR | http://www.explosm.net/comics/2355/ | Mar 23 02:49 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Cyanide & Happiness #2355 - Explosm.net .::. Size~: 18.58 KB | Mar 23 02:49 |
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| schestowitz | > My Dear Doctor Roy, | Mar 23 23:22 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 23 23:22 |
| schestowitz | > This one was superb! It was worth every word to translate: | Mar 23 23:22 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 23 23:22 |
| schestowitz | > pr-takes-over-minds-again_ES | Mar 23 23:22 |
| schestowitz | Wow. I thought my post was messy, unclear, and rushed. I'm glad you found it handy nonetheless. | Mar 23 23:22 |
| schestowitz | Mar 23 23:22 | |
| schestowitz | > #Please I'm trying to get a way to reach Sam Varguese to ask him | Mar 23 23:22 |
| schestowitz | > permission to translate his: | Mar 23 23:22 |
| schestowitz | > #Surprise! Microsoft, big Oz banks among most ethical | Mar 23 23:22 |
| schestowitz | > #But I found no way to reach him. Please if you have any contact with | Mar 23 23:22 |
| schestowitz | > him can you ask his permission for me to translate his article. | Mar 23 23:22 |
| schestowitz | > # | Mar 23 23:22 |
| schestowitz | > #The last two or three translations I've done I've been including "the | Mar 23 23:22 |
| schestowitz | > most ethical" & the like phrases when you're referring to beast. | Mar 23 23:22 |
| schestowitz | > #South Americans have such a sense to ignore what is important for | Mar 23 23:22 |
| schestowitz | > them to know unless you use such terms. Then it really sticks to #them | Mar 23 23:23 |
| schestowitz | > what you're implying & start thinking why we're referring to them like | Mar 23 23:23 |
| schestowitz | > that. After all their official press is controlled by a small #group | Mar 23 23:23 |
| schestowitz | > of oligarchs that have alienated their thinking in ways beyond what | Mar 23 23:23 |
| schestowitz | > you refer on your post. To get their attention we need #irony, | Mar 23 23:23 |
| schestowitz | > remember the Vendola's song? That's why I need to translate Sam's | Mar 23 23:23 |
| schestowitz | > article for them to know what you & me are talking about. | Mar 23 23:23 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 23 23:23 |
| schestowitz | > Your friend, | Mar 23 23:23 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/67988359 *LOL* | Mar 23 23:35 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @Richard Fontana (fontana)'s status on Thursday, 24-Mar-11 03:11:11 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz please provide adequate warnings of #AsayRoll s | Mar 23 23:35 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: ^^ that's a Red Hat lawyer saying it | Mar 23 23:36 |
| MinceR | :) | Mar 23 23:36 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/explodingwalrus/status/50738419831291904 | Mar 23 23:37 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @explodingwalrus: hell yeah RT @schestowitz: #Mozilla #Firefox 4 Improves Memory Use http://ur1.ca/3n76u much needed improvement | Mar 23 23:37 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | -> Title: Mozilla Firefox 4 Improves Memory Use - InternetNews.com .::. Size~: 131.43 KB | Mar 23 23:37 |
| schestowitz | Off to install Linux servers for customers | Mar 23 23:37 |
| schestowitz | In an hour | Mar 23 23:37 |
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| qu1j0t3 | lol @ fontana | Mar 24 05:26 |
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| sebsebseb | MinceR: gnufreex nisshh hi | Mar 24 08:09 |
| MinceR | Mar 24 08:10 | |
| sebsebseb | Mar 24 08:10 | |
| gnufreex | hi | Mar 24 08:10 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: | Mar 24 08:10 |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: | Mar 24 08:10 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: | Mar 24 08:12 |
| MinceR | Mar 24 08:12 | |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: gnufreex and whilst I talk about that distro, oh look who turns up in that channel :D | Mar 24 08:16 |
| MinceR | :> | Mar 24 08:16 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: meaning? | Mar 24 08:16 |
| MinceR | i've noticed | Mar 24 08:17 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: yep Ubuntu hype man :D | Mar 24 08:18 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: anyway I have mixed feelings when it comes to that distro now, but I guess most are negative now really :D | Mar 24 08:18 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: it hasn't really done good stuff to my life, in fact it's done quite a few negative things really | Mar 24 08:20 |
| MinceR | it has done good things for me, but those things are long past now | Mar 24 08:20 |
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| sebsebseb | MinceR: sure same here, anyway such as for you? | Mar 24 08:20 |
| MinceR | huh? | Mar 24 08:21 |
| sebsebseb | what has it done for you, that was good? | Mar 24 08:21 |
| MinceR | i guess it let me run debian without having to install the nvidia binary blob by hand | Mar 24 08:21 |
| MinceR | and it let me test kde4 early on a stable distro | Mar 24 08:21 |
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| MinceR | otherwise it was my debian replacement | Mar 24 08:22 |
| sebsebseb | well Linux Mint has basically all that's good from Ubuntu, with the nicer theme and more user friendly | Mar 24 08:22 |
| MinceR | debian would have done the same for me otherwise, except possibly better | Mar 24 08:22 |
| sebsebseb | and well loads of the other distros can install Nivida driver quite easily the propritary | Mar 24 08:22 |
| MinceR | i know | Mar 24 08:22 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: at one stage I thought I was something, because I used Ubuntu | Mar 24 08:23 |
| sebsebseb | you know really was something | Mar 24 08:23 |
| sebsebseb | ,but that's long passed | Mar 24 08:23 |
| MinceR | i also used to want gnome-do, but that's long gone too | Mar 24 08:23 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: I remember the days when people would be like, no don't recommend Ubuntu to non technical people | Mar 24 08:23 |
| sebsebseb | it's not ready yet | Mar 24 08:23 |
| MinceR | i don't think that there's any desktop OS at all that could be recommended to nontechnical people on those grounds | Mar 24 08:24 |
| MinceR | there always are issues | Mar 24 08:24 |
| sebsebseb | well yeah | Mar 24 08:24 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: gnufreex Have you seen Mozilla Glow? | Mar 24 08:25 |
| MinceR | nope | Mar 24 08:25 |
| MinceR | what is it? | Mar 24 08:25 |
| sebsebseb | see for yourself | Mar 24 08:25 |
| sebsebseb | http://glow.mozilla.org | Mar 24 08:26 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Firefox 4 Download Stats .::. Size~: 4.85 KB | Mar 24 08:26 |
| sebsebseb | http://glow.mozilla.org :) | Mar 24 08:26 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Firefox 4 Download Stats .::. Size~: 4.85 KB | Mar 24 08:26 |
| Qubitar | usertracking | Mar 24 08:26 |
| sebsebseb | also they got a Firefox logo done with peoples Twitter avatars, when they tweet the thing, and an app for Facebook with butons | Mar 24 08:26 |
| sebsebseb | Qubitar: well they use the ip address, to find out where people are from and then the stats | Mar 24 08:27 |
| sebsebseb | and it's all anoymous apparnatly | Mar 24 08:27 |
| Qubitar | apparently | Mar 24 08:27 |
| sebsebseb | oh and if we download Firefox directly from Mozilla well there's an issue they only provide it as a tar.bz2 | Mar 24 08:27 |
| Qubitar | yeah | Mar 24 08:28 |
| Qubitar | im not surprised | Mar 24 08:28 |
| sebsebseb | I saw a page complaining about that | Mar 24 08:28 |
| sebsebseb | Ubuntu user/s though | Mar 24 08:28 |
| Qubitar | why would they provide packages | Mar 24 08:28 |
| Qubitar | its not their job | Mar 24 08:28 |
| sebsebseb | well Opera and Skype provide packages | Mar 24 08:28 |
| sebsebseb | for differnet distro's | Mar 24 08:28 |
| Qubitar | each distro has people that package firefox | Mar 24 08:28 |
| sebsebseb | and yeah exactly that's what I was thinking | Mar 24 08:29 |
| Qubitar | opera and skype aren't included in most distros | Mar 24 08:29 |
| sebsebseb | why would htey provide Deb's and RPM's and such | Mar 24 08:29 |
| sebsebseb | people package Firefox for distro's usealy anyway | Mar 24 08:29 |
| Qubitar | yeah | Mar 24 08:29 |
| sebsebseb | well I was thinking people useauly get FIrefox from their distro's repos | Mar 24 08:29 |
| Qubitar | someone out there has a 4.x build | Mar 24 08:29 |
| Qubitar | opensuse had beta 14 in 11.4 | Mar 24 08:29 |
| sebsebseb | only thing when it comes to those download stats though, is how since we get from repo's uhmm I guess most/all of those downloads won't be part of the stats | Mar 24 08:29 |
| Qubitar | so its going to be a reg update | Mar 24 08:30 |
| sebsebseb | won't be part of glow | Mar 24 08:30 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: glow is interesting, because can also see where it has been downloaded, the continents and counteries, but also cities | Mar 24 08:30 |
| Qubitar | glow showcases windows/mac users | Mar 24 08:30 |
| sebsebseb | Qubitar: mainly yes | Mar 24 08:30 |
| sebsebseb | with a few Linux users as well | Mar 24 08:30 |
| Qubitar | the package maintainers | Mar 24 08:30 |
| Qubitar | lol | Mar 24 08:30 |
| MinceR | i did use the official binary tarball on debian | Mar 24 08:30 |
| sebsebseb | well I downloaded the tar.bz2 from Mozilla ealrier, so I guess I am part of the stats now | Mar 24 08:30 |
| MinceR | installed it under /opt :> | Mar 24 08:31 |
| MinceR | (that was 3.5 or so though) | Mar 24 08:31 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: well Debian doesn't have Firefox, so uhmm ok | Mar 24 08:31 |
| sebsebseb | yes it has Iceweasel, but that's not Firefox | Mar 24 08:31 |
| Qubitar | personally I don't even mess with firebloat anymore | Mar 24 08:31 |
| sebsebseb | why not? | Mar 24 08:31 |
| Qubitar | I use chromium | Mar 24 08:31 |
| MinceR | i do because i have no suitable replacement | Mar 24 08:32 |
| MinceR | crashium didn't work out for me | Mar 24 08:32 |
| sebsebseb | Chromium :( Chrome :( ,but out of the two obviusly I would rather use Chromium since it's open source | Mar 24 08:32 |
| Qubitar | singlethreadfox is too slow for my pc | Mar 24 08:32 |
| MinceR | your pc is too slow for singlethreadfox ;) | Mar 24 08:32 |
| sebsebseb | that's signglethreadfox? | Mar 24 08:32 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: you don't have a proper Firefox replacement? | Mar 24 08:33 |
| Qubitar | mincer is just a noob | Mar 24 08:33 |
| sebsebseb | above that was meant to say, what's singlethreadfox? | Mar 24 08:33 |
| Qubitar | sebsebseb - prior to 4.x firefox used a single thread for all your tabs | Mar 24 08:33 |
| sebsebseb | Qubitar: what do you mean thread? | Mar 24 08:33 |
| sebsebseb | also yeah MinceR is a sort of noob, he loves Microsoft and Apple really | Mar 24 08:34 |
| sebsebseb | oh and Canonical when it comes to KDE hence stilll being on Kubuntu 9.10 | Mar 24 08:34 |
| Qubitar | basicly using one thread is like using one core of your cpu | Mar 24 08:34 |
| Qubitar | or half a core of your cpu if you have HT | Mar 24 08:34 |
| sebsebseb | anyway I done this joking/messing around with MinceR before, and it's not that funny really hmm | Mar 24 08:35 |
| sebsebseb | Qubitar: HT sounds vagualry familur mabye, but what's that? | Mar 24 08:35 |
| Qubitar | hyper threading | Mar 24 08:35 |
| sebsebseb | which is? | Mar 24 08:36 |
| sebsebseb | Qubitar: MinceR FIrefox 4 seems to play quite a lot of feature catch up compared to other browsers | Mar 24 08:39 |
| sebsebseb | oh and Midori for example looked pretty nice | Mar 24 08:39 |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: i don't have one | Mar 24 08:39 |
| MinceR | and Qubitar is just a troll | Mar 24 08:39 |
| sebsebseb | and Opera has a better one button menu for example | Mar 24 08:39 |
| MinceR | midori looked nice, until it lagged waiting for the sound device | Mar 24 08:39 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: you don't have what? | Mar 24 08:39 |
| MinceR | then it stopped looking nice | Mar 24 08:39 |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: a proper firefox replacement | Mar 24 08:40 |
| sebsebseb | Why not exactly? | Mar 24 08:40 |
| MinceR | other browsers tend to be less stable, they tend to break some websites and they tend to lack functionality i add to firefox via extensions. | Mar 24 08:40 |
| sebsebseb | ok | Mar 24 08:41 |
| sebsebseb | what kind of extensions you add? | Mar 24 08:41 |
| sebsebseb | Opera has loads of stuff by default, but it did seem to lack a lot of extensions when I had a look to see what there was | Mar 24 08:41 |
| sebsebseb | Are these chanels being publically logged whilst Roy isn't here or what? | Mar 24 08:42 |
| sebsebseb | gnufreex: hmm are you running TechrightsBot-sc at the moment? | Mar 24 08:43 |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: NoScript, AdBlock Plus, Ghostery, CookieSafe (iirc), RefControl, Web Developer, Clear Text Fields, DownloadHelper (for video), TinyMenu, xclear | Mar 24 08:43 |
| MinceR | also FoxyProxy | Mar 24 08:43 |
| Qubitar | the extension argument is weak | Mar 24 08:43 |
| MinceR | also i have multiple profiles so i can use proxies for some pages while simultaneously not for others | Mar 24 08:44 |
| MinceR | Qubitar: your face is weak. | Mar 24 08:44 |
| Qubitar | many people often argue against switching from windows to linux, the programs they are used to | Mar 24 08:45 |
| MinceR | also, on my netbook crashium causes the kernel to panic on quit, probably abusing its setuid root status (on the chromium-sandbox binary) | Mar 24 08:45 |
| Qubitar | extensions could be thought of the same way | Mar 24 08:45 |
| MinceR | Qubitar: i'm not talking about programs, i'm talking about _functionality_ | Mar 24 08:45 |
| Qubitar | extensions are just apps for firefox | Mar 24 08:45 |
| MinceR | other web browsers lack most of that functionality those extensions implement. | Mar 24 08:46 |
| Qubitar | same logic for sticking with windows | Mar 24 08:46 |
| Qubitar | most of the other OS's lack the functionality of the programs that are only on windows | Mar 24 08:46 |
| MinceR | there's no functionality that keeps me run winblows as my main OS | Mar 24 08:46 |
| Qubitar | maybe not you | Mar 24 08:47 |
| MinceR | if you're trying to sell me winblows, you'd better stop wasting your time :> | Mar 24 08:47 |
| Qubitar | the lack of directx prevents a lot of games, but that doesn't mean linux is inferior to windows | Mar 24 08:47 |
| MinceR | also, firefox is no less free software than crashium | Mar 24 08:47 |
| MinceR | and opera isn't even free software | Mar 24 08:47 |
| MinceR | also, it is _officially_ not google's goal to replicate the functionality of firefox, they're aiming for a bare-bones browser. | Mar 24 08:48 |
| MinceR | do your research. | Mar 24 08:48 |
| gnufreex | sebsebseb: No | Mar 24 08:49 |
| Qubitar | firefox is less free | Mar 24 08:49 |
| Qubitar | you can't redistribute 'firefox' as named | Mar 24 08:50 |
| Qubitar | you have to change the name | Mar 24 08:50 |
| gnufreex | Qubitar: Use GNU IceCat | Mar 24 08:50 |
| gnufreex | problem solved | Mar 24 08:50 |
| Qubitar | problem not solved | Mar 24 08:50 |
| Qubitar | thats doing the same thing | Mar 24 08:50 |
| Qubitar | redistribution under a different name | Mar 24 08:50 |
| gnufreex | So? | Mar 24 08:50 |
| gnufreex | How is that "doing the same thing"? | Mar 24 08:51 |
| MinceR | Qubitar: and you can redistribute "chrome" as named? | Mar 24 08:51 |
| MinceR | can you even build it? | Mar 24 08:51 |
| gnufreex | GNU IceCat is not trademarked | Mar 24 08:51 |
| Qubitar | never heard of google threaten a distro with trademark issues over unofficial patches | Mar 24 08:52 |
| gnufreex | That's because they don't have trademark on Chromium | Mar 24 08:52 |
| MinceR | never heard of any distro shipping their own build of chrome either | Mar 24 08:53 |
| gnufreex | But try to decompile Chrome and you get sued. | Mar 24 08:53 |
| MinceR | actually, never heard of even the actual sources of "chrome" being distributed at all | Mar 24 08:53 |
| gnufreex | It is proprietary software | Mar 24 08:53 |
| MinceR | they don't tell us how it differs from chromium. | Mar 24 08:53 |
| gnufreex | It has libraries for spying | Mar 24 08:53 |
| MinceR | on the other hand, firefox has branding packages and that's all that makes "firefox" "firefox" | Mar 24 08:53 |
| MinceR | i have built firefox from source in a way that it called itself firefox and used the official firefox logo | Mar 24 08:54 |
| gnufreex | I did it too | Mar 24 08:54 |
| Qubitar | fedora has its own chromium patchset that get applied | Mar 24 08:55 |
| Qubitar | unfortunately theres other reasons its not in the distro | Mar 24 08:55 |
| gnufreex | Hm.. is this Chromium vs Firefox flamewar? | Mar 24 08:56 |
| Qubitar | a lot of bundled libs and no stable release yet | Mar 24 08:56 |
| Qubitar | yeah | Mar 24 08:56 |
| gnufreex | lol | Mar 24 08:56 |
| MinceR | apparently so | Mar 24 08:56 |
| gnufreex | I'll chance the chanell for a while | Mar 24 08:56 |
| Qubitar | its me vs all the paranoid-of-google people | Mar 24 08:56 |
| MinceR | well, i went with the assumption that chromium won't spy on me if i disable the options that would require it to phone home | Mar 24 08:57 |
| MinceR | still didn't work out well for me in the end | Mar 24 08:57 |
| Qubitar | firefox still spies on you | Mar 24 08:58 |
| gnufreex | I thought Chromium has no spying... that's Chrome's job. | Mar 24 08:58 |
| Qubitar | unless you've removed the google bar | Mar 24 08:58 |
| Qubitar | and stopped using search engines | Mar 24 08:58 |
| MinceR | Qubitar: citation needed. | Mar 24 08:59 |
| MinceR | i use DDG as my default search engine | Mar 24 08:59 |
| Qubitar | DDG? | Mar 24 09:00 |
| gnufreex | DuckDUckGo | Mar 24 09:00 |
| MinceR | indeed | Mar 24 09:00 |
| MinceR | hm, one thing that didn't seem to work so well in chrome was easy addition of search engines | Mar 24 09:01 |
| MinceR | it did import DDG from firefox settings but i couldn't add Scroogle so easily | Mar 24 09:01 |
| Qubitar | how quaint | Mar 24 09:02 |
| Qubitar | you think that makes you safe somehow | Mar 24 09:02 |
| MinceR | evidently not from your trolling | Mar 24 09:02 |
| Qubitar | as if there aren't agencies out there already tracking you | Mar 24 09:02 |
| MinceR | but otherwise it helps | Mar 24 09:02 |
| Qubitar | despite your efforts | Mar 24 09:02 |
| sebsebseb | Qubitar: I agree the paranoid with Google thing uh what? | Mar 24 09:02 |
| sebsebseb | Qubitar: loads of these search enginges now, we don't spy on you | Mar 24 09:02 |
| sebsebseb | Qubitar: oh and we apparently encrypt your data | Mar 24 09:03 |
| Qubitar | using classical cryptograpgy | Mar 24 09:03 |
| sebsebseb | uh right, but how secure are things really, and surely the ISP dns will have an idea what someone is going on anyway for example? | Mar 24 09:03 |
| Qubitar | classical crypto has vulnerabilities to quantum computing | Mar 24 09:03 |
| sebsebseb | Qubitar: and who needs a secure really private search enginge anyway, when they are going to be going on perfectly legal stuff? | Mar 24 09:03 |
| sebsebseb | Qubitar: see what I mean? | Mar 24 09:03 |
| MinceR | a very vague idea, if you're using the ISP-provided DNS | Mar 24 09:03 |
| MinceR | Qubitar: speculation. | Mar 24 09:03 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: even if you change to opendns or something, I guess someone can spy on what your going on | Mar 24 09:03 |
| sebsebseb | also with these so called more secure/private search engines | Mar 24 09:04 |
| sebsebseb | even there you have to trust htem | Mar 24 09:04 |
| sebsebseb | them | Mar 24 09:04 |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: i think you can still be careful about whom you let spy on you | Mar 24 09:04 |
| sebsebseb | a bit like when you use the cloud, oh sure they will say they encrypt and all that, but you still have to trust the cloud provider | Mar 24 09:04 |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: i.e. don't let google aggregate everything in house and stuff like that | Mar 24 09:04 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: my ISP hijacked the DNS here | Mar 24 09:04 |
| Qubitar | everything you think is secret because it encrypted is a joke because agencies have quantum processing capabilities | Mar 24 09:04 |
| MinceR | i don't trust the cloud anyway | Mar 24 09:04 |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: that sucks | Mar 24 09:04 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: now there is some sort of opt out option, or a way to change DNS, but | Mar 24 09:04 |
| sebsebseb | basically if I type in a url wrong | Mar 24 09:04 |
| MinceR | Qubitar: citation needed | Mar 24 09:05 |
| sebsebseb | it will come up with a page saying that, and try and help me to get on the correct thing | Mar 24 09:05 |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: what if you point your resolver at another DNS service? | Mar 24 09:05 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: well that page won't always come up | Mar 24 09:05 |
| sebsebseb | if I use another DNS I won't get the help page thing | Mar 24 09:05 |
| sebsebseb | anyway I think there is a bit more to it than just what DNS soemone is using, ISP's and so even goverments, will still have their ways to know, what we are going on, I guess | Mar 24 09:06 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: anyway I think someone doesn't really want to chat to me today or not as such, hence why she left my channel on here, really soon after I joined, oh well | Mar 24 09:07 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: ,but is still in at least two other channels for that | Mar 24 09:07 |
| sebsebseb | then whenever it was now, I noticed she was in those two, but not mine, oh well | Mar 24 09:07 |
| MinceR | of course if you're planning to do stuff you really don't want to be known then you'll need more powerful privacy measures | Mar 24 09:08 |
| MinceR | but i think it's a good idea to use many of them routinely | Mar 24 09:08 |
| MinceR | for example because it won't make your more private activities stand out :> | Mar 24 09:08 |
| sebsebseb | you can use encryption, but apprnatly in UK they can demand to see encrypted data anyway, and if refuse, it's illegal | Mar 24 09:08 |
| MinceR | that's probably only practical for encrypted storage | Mar 24 09:08 |
| MinceR | for which you can use algorithms that let you use another key to access innocent-looking data | Mar 24 09:09 |
| Qubitar | peter shor | Mar 24 09:10 |
| Qubitar | look him up | Mar 24 09:10 |
| Qubitar | http://iqc.uwaterloo.ca/welcome/quantum-computing-101 | Mar 24 09:13 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Quantum Computing 101 โ IQC.ca .::. Size~: 34.61 KB | Mar 24 09:13 |
| Qubitar | breaking encyption involved factoring large numbers | Mar 24 09:14 |
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| MinceR | afaik practical applications haven't appeared yet | Mar 24 09:16 |
| Qubitar | that's because you're too stupid to understand logic | Mar 24 09:16 |
| Qubitar | we don't get to see black budget projects while they are still being made | Mar 24 09:16 |
| MinceR | therefore every black budget project imaginable exists | Mar 24 09:17 |
| MinceR | i see how your proof works | Mar 24 09:17 |
| Qubitar | dumbass | Mar 24 09:17 |
| MinceR | yes, that's what you are | Mar 24 09:17 |
| Qubitar | no | Mar 24 09:17 |
| Qubitar | actually its more likely you're a disnfo agent | Mar 24 09:17 |
| Qubitar | you don't want people to know encyption is a joke | Mar 24 09:18 |
| MinceR | more likely you're a troll | Mar 24 09:18 |
| Qubitar | at best, you're safe for a few years | Mar 24 09:18 |
| MinceR | you're trying to provoke drama on TR | Mar 24 09:18 |
| MinceR | as usual | Mar 24 09:18 |
| MinceR | then again, you _could_ be a government agent trying to convince people to not even bother using encryption, alleging that it's useless anyway | Mar 24 09:19 |
| Qubitar | go for it | Mar 24 09:25 |
| Qubitar | just dont expect it to be secret | Mar 24 09:25 |
| Qubitar | everything has a shelf life | Mar 24 09:25 |
| Qubitar | statistics point out that there is at least one agent on our IRC channel btw | Mar 24 09:27 |
| Qubitar | it could be me | Mar 24 09:27 |
| Qubitar | remember when I had that cia.com domain | Mar 24 09:27 |
| Qubitar | ;) | Mar 24 09:27 |
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| Qubitar | come hang out in ##conspiracy | Mar 24 10:59 |
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| qu1j0t3 | or #wikileaks ! | Mar 24 12:10 |
| Qubitar | those of us in ##conspiracy might think #wikileaks is in on it | Mar 24 12:13 |
| Qubitar | dun dun dun! | Mar 24 12:13 |
| qu1j0t3 | AND VICE VERSA | Mar 24 12:13 |
| MinceR | http://www.reddit.com/tb/gajj4 | Mar 24 12:42 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: I've been wanting to say this for a very long time. via reddit.com .::. Size~: 1.65 KB | Mar 24 12:42 |
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| Qubitar | http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-12811199 | Mar 24 13:25 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: BBC News - Quantum computing device hints at powerful future .::. Size~: 59.51 KB | Mar 24 13:25 |
| Qubitar | a reason for the multicore revolution | Mar 24 13:25 |
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| Qubitar | http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-12811199 | Mar 24 13:27 |
| Qubitar | a reason for the multicore revolution | Mar 24 13:27 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: BBC News - Quantum computing device hints at powerful future .::. Size~: 59.57 KB | Mar 24 13:27 |
| Qubitar | schestowitz | Mar 24 13:27 |
| schestowitz | Qubitar: they have been speaking Quantum computing since I started university | Mar 24 13:30 |
| schestowitz | BTW, good news. Minutes ago I got E-mail from my postdoc employer... they want to extend the contract :-) | Mar 24 13:31 |
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| Qubitar | they only had a working one process qubits for 10 years | Mar 24 14:28 |
| schestowitz | what about optical? | Mar 24 14:40 |
| schestowitz | I haven't kept track much cause we still use same old silicon, copper, sequential, multi-core, etc. | Mar 24 14:40 |
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| mjs | hi all...linux user trapped in a microsoft user's body here...any outlook guru's listening? | Mar 24 21:48 |
| mjs | came up against a distribution list issue today.. | Mar 24 21:50 |
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| schestowitz | "Do you want me to start building a GUI front end for it? I'm good with those particular aspects of MATLAB and MathWorks once offered me help writing a book about it (I was ranked first in the world at MATLAB Central at the time)." :-) | Mar 25 02:23 |
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| sebsebseb | Hi | Mar 25 07:30 |
| qubitar | hi | Mar 25 07:37 |
| sebsebseb | qubitar: hi | Mar 25 07:38 |
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| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: https://twitter.com/#!/newsycombinator/status/51372797880041472 | Mar 25 13:01 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @newsycombinator: Did the Microsoft Stack Kill MySpace? http://j.mp/h18bTr | Mar 25 13:01 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | -> Title: High Scalability - High Scalability - Did the Microsoft Stack Killย MySpace? .::. Size~: 47.21 KB | Mar 25 13:01 |
| MinceR | hm, i didn't know myunderline used m$ crap | Mar 25 13:05 |
| MinceR | (also known as my________________________________________________________________) | Mar 25 13:05 |
| MinceR | how ironic that m$'s ally beat myspace because myspace relied on m$ software | Mar 25 13:06 |
| MinceR | "That's almost silly. Look at Windows, .Net, etc and they are all quite capable of scaling if used correctly." | Mar 25 13:08 |
| *MinceR laughed loudly | Mar 25 13:08 | |
| MinceR | oh yeah, like it scaled down to mobile phones or up to supercomputers | Mar 25 13:09 |
| qu1j0t3 | :) | Mar 25 13:09 |
| MinceR | http://www10.nytimes.com.nyud.net/2011/03/25/business/economy/25tax.html?_r=5&hp=&pagewanted=all | Mar 25 13:19 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Error processing the URL: HTTP/1.0 503 Service Unavailable | Mar 25 13:19 |
| schestowitz | BT causes a lot more trouble today. | Mar 25 13:57 |
| schestowitz | Problems with friends too, cause my line is down: | Mar 25 13:57 |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 25 13:58 |
| schestowitz | > Or you could just get a cheap pay as you go phone just for receiving calls only and I could ring you, to save all this continual arsing about with email :) it is v tiresome:) | Mar 25 13:58 |
| schestowitz | I know, I am so sorry. Aaron has only just told an hour ago about pay as you go phones, which I did not know about. Like the dongle, these are needed because BT couldn't get things right. | Mar 25 13:58 |
| schestowitz | > Roy I will be at yours for 610 so to save me the trouble of having to negotiate the gates parkking up locking up walking to the flat buzzing you, waiting for you then getting back in the car then negotiating the gates, could you just be outside please, thanks. | Mar 25 13:58 |
| schestowitz | > Hey roy, just been knocking on yours, no answer would have rang you and we could have spoke/sorted easily, but alas, you will not get a phone;) you really need to get one roy, it might be convenient for you being sat opposite your pc all day but its really inconvenient for others trying to contact you in situations like this, I will drive home now. | Mar 25 13:58 |
| schestowitz | This just shows how BT harms my social life too, in addition to causing trouble with my employers. This necessitates me publishing some complaints. | Mar 25 13:58 |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 25 13:58 |
| schestowitz | Turns out they start even calling my friends endlessly | Mar 25 13:58 |
| schestowitz | And they enabled the wrong line | Mar 25 13:58 |
| schestowitz | on MY ACCOUNT | Mar 25 13:58 |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 25 13:59 |
| schestowitz | > Roy, bt have called me for the fourth time today, you need to ring sanjay kumar before 7 on 0800 111 4163 to discuss your line, he says they have activated the wrong flat and now need to deactivate it so you don't pay for the bill, he really needed to speak to you direct to explain things and arrange the work, but alas you do not have a contact number:) | Mar 25 13:59 |
| schestowitz | I am so sorry about this. I didn't give them your phone number. 2 weeks ago they (Sales) asked for a second person's mobile #. | Mar 25 13:59 |
| schestowitz | > Bt engineer rang will be at yours between 1 and 5 tomorrow | Mar 25 13:59 |
| schestowitz | Thankfully I got notified about this over the phone. Sorry you had to be part of this; they should never have called your number, though | Mar 25 13:59 |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 25 13:59 |
| schestowitz | Exchange/code monkeys.. can't even operate the exchanges correctly | Mar 25 13:59 |
| schestowitz | "First of all, I am so so sorry. You have no idea what a mess BT is. This whole thing has been a *nightmare*. First of all, I waited again -- for the second time this week -- at home all day just waiting by the phone. The people who deliver the hub would not show up, not even ring. Then they try to blame me. There are actually 3 screw-ups at BT with my order and this is just one of them. Basically, the landlord stepped in | Mar 25 13:59 |
| schestowitz | today and bursted out at them.' | Mar 25 13:59 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: Have fun with BT | Mar 25 14:00 |
| sebsebseb | heh heh | Mar 25 14:00 |
| schestowitz | Then they had my calls directed to some call centre in India | Mar 25 14:00 |
| schestowitz | Trying to exhaust me while cheaper labour takes the call | Mar 25 14:00 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: you were right | Mar 25 14:00 |
| schestowitz | And I will write a blog post in a moment | Mar 25 14:00 |
| schestowitz | You warmed me about BT | Mar 25 14:00 |
| sebsebseb | yep I did :) | Mar 25 14:01 |
| schestowitz | And there I though, "too big to fail" :-) | Mar 25 14:01 |
| schestowitz | *thought | Mar 25 14:01 |
| sebsebseb | uh that's like saying Microsoft and Apple are to big to fail, or produce really bad products | Mar 25 14:01 |
| schestowitz | "He had them on the mobile for ages, they would divert and deceive to escape accountability. Then he had to go, as he was on his work phone. So I had to rush to a phone and sort things out; I was very upset at this stage, but I kept polite with BT (most people would not). Eventually they said the engineers would come between 1 and 6 tomorrow. It may resolved the line issue, but not the Internet issue (or billing). They | Mar 25 14:01 |
| schestowitz | totally botched some other things, but it's a long story." | Mar 25 14:01 |
| schestowitz | You should have seen the landlord. He's not as calm as me | Mar 25 14:01 |
| sebsebseb | oh? | Mar 25 14:01 |
| schestowitz | yes | Mar 25 14:01 |
| schestowitz | Apple and Microsoft | Mar 25 14:01 |
| schestowitz | I was gonna make the analogy | Mar 25 14:01 |
| schestowitz | And apologise for TR being so quiet as a result | Mar 25 14:02 |
| qubitar | you know it probably is a microsoft-bt conspiracy | Mar 25 14:02 |
| sebsebseb | also it would have been like saying in the 90's that AOL are to big to fail | Mar 25 14:02 |
| schestowitz | At one stage we demanded that they cancel the order | Mar 25 14:02 |
| sebsebseb | and now today | Mar 25 14:02 |
| sebsebseb | well loads of AOL horror st ories | Mar 25 14:02 |
| schestowitz | And they woulldn't let me | Mar 25 14:02 |
| MinceR | well, Aol is still around | Mar 25 14:02 |
| schestowitz | He's better at the "showing anger" part | Mar 25 14:02 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: yep, but so are Microsoft and Apple | Mar 25 14:02 |
| schestowitz | And then they have | Mar 25 14:02 |
| MinceR | indeed | Mar 25 14:03 |
| qubitar | Aol is still around because people still think they need an Aol account | Mar 25 14:03 |
| schestowitz | "cancellation department" or something like that | Mar 25 14:03 |
| MinceR | m$ is still around because people still think PCs need winblows | Mar 25 14:03 |
| sebsebseb | qubitar: and Microsoft is still mainly around since most computer users think they need Windows and Microsoft Office | Mar 25 14:03 |
| schestowitz | So I have to spend hours on more phone calls to cancel the bad services that I don't want anyway cause the service sucks | Mar 25 14:03 |
| qubitar | well | Mar 25 14:03 |
| qubitar | theres video games too | Mar 25 14:03 |
| sebsebseb | and Apple is so popular, because well their stuff looks cool apparnetly or whatever iti s | Mar 25 14:03 |
| MinceR | (at least people whose job it would be to stop OEM tying) | Mar 25 14:04 |
| MinceR | crApple is still around because people still think their crap products make them cool | Mar 25 14:04 |
| schestowitz | I will use this as an example of why when you control the channel you can afford terribel service | Mar 25 14:04 |
| schestowitz | They don't tisk me taking business elsewhere | Mar 25 14:04 |
| schestowitz | They own the line, so they can block me from going to the competition | Mar 25 14:04 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: well there we go then BT aren't exactly a nice company | Mar 25 14:05 |
| MinceR | which telco/ISP is? | Mar 25 14:05 |
| *sebsebseb remembers the 90's BT adverts and so on, and wondering why they were so popular | Mar 25 14:05 | |
| *MinceR prefers the other BT | Mar 25 14:06 | |
| schestowitz | what's that one? | Mar 25 14:06 |
| sebsebseb | Bittorent | Mar 25 14:06 |
| schestowitz | Bulgarian Teabags? | Mar 25 14:06 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: yeah :"-) | Mar 25 14:06 |
| MinceR | Brian Transeau | Mar 25 14:07 |
| qubitar | bit torrent is over rated now | Mar 25 14:08 |
| qubitar | I get faster speeds direct http | Mar 25 14:08 |
| qubitar | thanks to throttling | Mar 25 14:08 |
| qubitar | but 1MB/s, faster than any torrent I've tried even in the past | Mar 25 14:09 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: Why is the land lord annoyeed? | Mar 25 14:12 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: cause it reflects badly on him | Mar 25 14:13 |
| sebsebseb | How so | Mar 25 14:13 |
| sebsebseb | ? | Mar 25 14:13 |
| schestowitz | That I can't do my jobs | Mar 25 14:13 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: not providing Free Internet? | Mar 25 14:13 |
| schestowitz | I asked him to leave it on | Mar 25 14:13 |
| sebsebseb | to leave what on? | Mar 25 14:14 |
| schestowitz | Virgin Internet | Mar 25 14:14 |
| schestowitz | His niece used to live here | Mar 25 14:14 |
| sebsebseb | oh right | Mar 25 14:14 |
| schestowitz | It's just 3 years old this house... | Mar 25 14:15 |
| sebsebseb | it will be in her name or whatever though I guess | Mar 25 14:15 |
| schestowitz | Yes, | Mar 25 14:15 |
| schestowitz | But maybe they could arrange transfers | Mar 25 14:15 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: ,but yes Virgin Internet that's a good way to go it seems | Mar 25 14:15 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: or you could give the land lord money for the Internet access as well or something | Mar 25 14:15 |
| qubitar | I still have Wayne arguing with me about LOIC | Mar 25 14:22 |
| qubitar | He keeps insisting the C# version is a port from elsewhere | Mar 25 14:22 |
| qu1j0t3 | ask somebody who knows | Mar 25 14:24 |
| qu1j0t3 | email M00t | Mar 25 14:24 |
| qubitar | I already know | Mar 25 14:24 |
| qubitar | C# came first | Mar 25 14:24 |
| qu1j0t3 | so put it aside | Mar 25 14:24 |
| qu1j0t3 | some ppl won't listen :) | Mar 25 14:24 |
| qubitar | im just saying it here lol | Mar 25 14:24 |
| qubitar | I already posted this on my blog like months ago | Mar 25 14:24 |
| qu1j0t3 | "transmitter's fine, receiver's borked" | Mar 25 14:24 |
| qubitar | you know what you're right | Mar 25 14:25 |
| qubitar | he doesn't listen | Mar 25 14:25 |
| qu1j0t3 | it happens. you have to just walk away sometimes :) | Mar 25 14:25 |
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| MinceR | http://www.reddit.com/tb/gb9q1 | Mar 25 14:46 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: You Wouldn't Download... via reddit.com .::. Size~: 1.63 KB | Mar 25 14:46 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/3UFM4.jpg | Mar 25 14:47 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Not a web page! Aborting image/jpeg type | Mar 25 14:47 |
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| schestowitz | OK, let's see if their MD is as unresponsive as his subordinates | Mar 25 16:30 |
| schestowitz | -------- Original Message -------- | Mar 25 16:30 |
| schestowitz | Subject: Published reviews of my service from BT | Mar 25 16:30 |
| schestowitz | Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 23:09:43 +0000 | Mar 25 16:30 |
| schestowitz | From: Roy Schestowitz <r@schestowitz.com> | Mar 25 16:30 |
| schestowitz | Reply-To: s@schestowitz.com | Mar 25 16:30 |
| schestowitz | Organisation: Manchester University | Mar 25 16:30 |
| schestowitz | To: warren.buckley@bt.com | Mar 25 16:30 |
| schestowitz | http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2011/03/25/bt-customer-part-3/ | Mar 25 16:30 |
| schestowitz | http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2011/03/25/avoid-bt/ | Mar 25 16:30 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: schestowitz.com ยป Blog Archive ยป What Itโs Like to be a BT Customer .::. Size~: 38.73 KB | Mar 25 16:30 |
| schestowitz | http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2011/03/23/choosing-isp-in-the-uk/ | Mar 25 16:30 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: schestowitz.com ยป Blog Archive ยป BT is Rubbish .::. Size~: 34.96 KB | Mar 25 16:30 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2011/03/25/bt-nightmare-part-2/ | Mar 25 16:30 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: schestowitz.com ยป Blog Archive ยป My BT Nightmare (and How to Choose an ISP in the UK) .::. Size~: 41.78 KB | Mar 25 16:30 |
| schestowitz | Action should be taken by BT. This is totally unacceptable and I never | Mar 25 16:30 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Boycott BT | Techrights .::. Size~: 87.86 KB | Mar 25 16:30 |
| schestowitz | in my life had to go through anything like this. I will escalate if | Mar 25 16:30 |
| schestowitz | necessary. | Mar 25 16:30 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2011/03/microsoft-shuts-https-hotmail-over-dozen-countries | Mar 25 16:31 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Microsoft Shuts off HTTPS in Hotmail for Over a Dozen Countries | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 19.19 KB | Mar 25 16:31 |
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| qu1j0t3 | wow sebsebseb | Mar 25 16:35 |
| schestowitz | [23:34] <schestowitz> maybe they like fascism | Mar 25 16:36 |
| sebsebseb | qu1j0t3: yeah that link just came into #techrights | Mar 25 16:36 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: did they ever adhere to anything else? :/ | Mar 25 16:36 |
| qu1j0t3 | but this is .. just wow. | Mar 25 16:36 |
| schestowitz | Enugh sheep will approve this move | Mar 25 16:36 |
| qu1j0t3 | how? | Mar 25 16:37 |
| qu1j0t3 | who could possibly approve it? | Mar 25 16:37 |
| schestowitz | Some people think their government is there to defne dthem | Mar 25 16:37 |
| schestowitz | It's the spin | Mar 25 16:37 |
| schestowitz | The government in their really | Mar 25 16:37 |
| schestowitz | Supposed to be | Mar 25 16:37 |
| schestowitz | If they eelct it | Mar 25 16:37 |
| schestowitz | The question is, if you elect people to represent you, do you want them to sniff your comms with your mom and friends? | Mar 25 16:37 |
| schestowitz | And if so, why? | Mar 25 16:37 |
| schestowitz | s/their/theirs/ | Mar 25 16:38 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: halp, i am having trouble playing music with GNOME+Firefox+Rhythmbox | Mar 25 16:39 |
| qu1j0t3 | nothing is working for me today | Mar 25 16:39 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: firefox won't tell rhyth,box (default multimedia app) to open .PLS | Mar 25 16:39 |
| qu1j0t3 | and rhythmbox's folder monitoring seems not to be workng either. | Mar 25 16:39 |
| schestowitz | I don't use B | Mar 25 16:40 |
| schestowitz | I don't use RB | Mar 25 16:40 |
| qu1j0t3 | i'm extremely disappointed | Mar 25 16:40 |
| schestowitz | I used it a few times before just to test it, minirok and amarok are good | Mar 25 16:40 |
| qu1j0t3 | i mean, playing music, how hard can it be? | Mar 25 16:40 |
| schestowitz | depends | Mar 25 16:40 |
| schestowitz | Miniimal? | Mar 25 16:40 |
| qu1j0t3 | all i want is some music so that i can get on with other things | Mar 25 16:41 |
| qu1j0t3 | it -was- working when i was using oepra | Mar 25 16:41 |
| qu1j0t3 | i think the problem is firefox | Mar 25 16:41 |
| qu1j0t3 | at least for the first bug | Mar 25 16:41 |
| schestowitz | use file types there | Mar 25 16:41 |
| qu1j0t3 | yes, all that is configured. | Mar 25 16:41 |
| schestowitz | firefox l;ikes to treat its file types separately | Mar 25 16:41 |
| qu1j0t3 | but it just refuses to work | Mar 25 16:41 |
| schestowitz | stupid, I know.. | Mar 25 16:41 |
| qu1j0t3 | firefox is set to use default app | Mar 25 16:41 |
| qu1j0t3 | i'll try forcing the app | Mar 25 16:41 |
| schestowitz | you can assign actions | Mar 25 16:41 |
| qu1j0t3 | ohoh yeah | Mar 25 16:42 |
| schestowitz | save/run/open | Mar 25 16:42 |
| qu1j0t3 | but when i try to do that, | Mar 25 16:42 |
| qu1j0t3 | firefox crashes. | Mar 25 16:42 |
| qu1j0t3 | so..... | Mar 25 16:42 |
| qu1j0t3 | nope. | Mar 25 16:42 |
| schestowitz | lol | Mar 25 16:42 |
| schestowitz | maybe it works for mafiaa now | Mar 25 16:42 |
| qu1j0t3 | i'm plugging the phones into the mac now | Mar 25 16:42 |
| qu1j0t3 | i've had enough | Mar 25 16:42 |
| schestowitz | mac ( | Mar 25 16:42 |
| schestowitz | :-( | Mar 25 16:42 |
| qu1j0t3 | yes. it just works. all the time. | Mar 25 16:42 |
| qu1j0t3 | i really don't have time or patience to spend a day getting music to play | Mar 25 16:43 |
| qu1j0t3 | so, moved phones, and now i have music. | Mar 25 16:43 |
| schestowitz | Ubuntu gives bad name to Linux? | Mar 25 16:53 |
| schestowitz | or another distro? | Mar 25 16:53 |
| schestowitz | I can't believe how long I've not properly blogged | Mar 25 16:55 |
| schestowitz | It feels like a month | Mar 25 16:55 |
| schestowitz | If the MD does not reply, I'll pressure him to do something by carrying on showing what a terrible service they provide | Mar 25 16:56 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: well has nearly been a month | Mar 25 16:56 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: maybe BT were paid by Microsoft to not connect you soon, so you woudn't blog about them :D | Mar 25 16:56 |
| sebsebseb | except it hasn't quite worked out for BT, because now you have blogged bad about them | Mar 25 16:56 |
| schestowitz | I think one of their guys realised he can be sacked, so wants to see me urgently tomorrow | Mar 25 16:56 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: I've only gotten started about BT | Mar 25 16:57 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: well then | Mar 25 16:57 |
| sebsebseb | I might have to give the link to | Mar 25 16:57 |
| sebsebseb | the links about BT | Mar 25 16:57 |
| schestowitz | They have reasons to connect me fast because I'll do what I can to make them lose more constomers | Mar 25 16:57 |
| sebsebseb | to the person who tipped me off about them being bad online | Mar 25 16:57 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: please do | Mar 25 16:58 |
| schestowitz | a | Mar 25 16:58 |
| sebsebseb | ,but that means I would have to find them on Facebook chat or MSN hmm or just message through Facebook or email hmm | Mar 25 16:58 |
| schestowitz | a redent would be nice, you have British followers | Mar 25 16:58 |
| sebsebseb | could be interesting to see what she would say | Mar 25 16:58 |
| sebsebseb | a redent? | Mar 25 16:58 |
| schestowitz | RD] | Mar 25 16:58 |
| schestowitz | I can't believe I'm so bored tonight | Mar 25 16:58 |
| schestowitz | I'm NEVER bored | Mar 25 16:58 |
| schestowitz | Bloody BT! | Mar 25 16:58 |
| schestowitz | I've been bored for weeks now... | Mar 25 16:59 |
| schestowitz | The last time I was bored I was about half my current age | Mar 25 16:59 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: anyway when I was talking about it earlier else where, this is what someone had to say: | Mar 25 16:59 |
| sebsebseb | And sebsebseb, if I were in his shoes I'd have written to my local MP and kicked up a fuss with people outside of BT. | Mar 25 16:59 |
| schestowitz | Think about it like this: | Mar 25 17:00 |
| schestowitz | Everything you do is Internet-based | Mar 25 17:00 |
| schestowitz | These people botch it up and ignore it when you tell them in advance that they need to fix it | Mar 25 17:00 |
| schestowitz | It's BT, it's not a person. It's like a machine. It's like talking to a algorithm | Mar 25 17:01 |
| schestowitz | And they start passing you over to departments they know aren't suitable cause each cogwheeel there is just looking to save his/her own arse | Mar 25 17:01 |
| schestowitz | Nobody is willing to take blame or actually take responsibility, which is how it differs from small shops where people know they must work hard to earn reputation | Mar 25 17:02 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: it's not much to do with the distro | Mar 25 17:02 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: it seems to be Ffx 's fault | Mar 25 17:02 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: yep it's a big company, with lots of differnet people working for them | Mar 25 17:04 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: and well companies have problems talking to each other | Mar 25 17:04 |
| sebsebseb | there's a good quite recent still exmaple from Canonical in fact | Mar 25 17:04 |
| sebsebseb | where MPT this like design team guy quite famous member of it as well | Mar 25 17:04 |
| sebsebseb | he for whatever reason it was now, emailed the design team mailing list about things, because of issues with communicaiton | Mar 25 17:04 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: the dents from popey I saw about this and from cjkawski (spelt wrong I think) were interesting for example | Mar 25 17:05 |
| sebsebseb | and the one or so from toros as well, who I think is the webupdate guy | Mar 25 17:05 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: anyway all this was earlier this month, but still interesting | Mar 25 17:06 |
| sebsebseb | anyway yeah companies are run by people, but they also have no soul, or whatever peopel say | Mar 25 17:06 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: and big companies can get away with a lot and so on | Mar 25 17:07 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: toros just links to them a lot | Mar 25 17:15 |
| schestowitz | toros is from Viktorstan | Mar 25 17:15 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: anyway hmm interesting? http://mvogt.wordpress.com/2011/03/25/software-center-weblive/ | Mar 25 17:15 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Software-center & weblive ยซ Michael Vogt's blog .::. Size~: 23.02 KB | Mar 25 17:15 |
| sebsebseb | toros is from Hungary or whatever | Mar 25 17:15 |
| schestowitz | And webupd8 -- like softpedia -- is Romanian | Mar 25 17:15 |
| sebsebseb | and that's the Andrew guy on webupdate I think? | Mar 25 17:15 |
| schestowitz | ok, tired now | Mar 25 17:16 |
| schestowitz | back in the morn... bored | Mar 25 17:16 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: yeah sleep is good for bordom | Mar 25 17:16 |
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| qu1j0t3 | https://twitter.com/#!/tachyondecay/status/52162987741560832 | Mar 27 17:21 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @tachyondecay: Nice, Google lets you know when it's removed search results owing to a DMCA notice and links to it on @ChillingEffects! | Mar 27 17:21 |
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| schestowitz | I'm back | Mar 29 00:54 |
| schestowitz | Finally. | Mar 29 00:54 |
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| schestowitz | :-) | Mar 29 01:59 |
| schestowitz | Faster connection than before this one... | Mar 29 01:59 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/wazzer_bt/statuses/51553599796416512 | Mar 29 02:36 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Not a tweet? | Mar 29 02:36 |
| schestowitz | Here's my latest mail to them (FWIW, and for lying trolls to realise they just spread libel about it) | Mar 29 02:57 |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 29 02:57 |
| schestowitz | Thanks very much for pulling the strings needed to finally fix my line (I reported this to BT and they ignored it at first, despite insistence), subsequently for me to receive the call from the delivery company. I now have a hub and a working connection. | Mar 29 02:57 |
| schestowitz | Issues that remain up for discussion are: 1) compensation (esp. the for line deactivation which had me wait at home for 3 days, missing work on 2, not being able to communicate with anyone, having to travel to city to phone BT many times); 2) calls made by someone foreign to me on the wrongly-activated line (will I be charged for those?); 3) A delay (one week) in arrival of parcel & activation (caused mainly by (1)). | Mar 29 02:57 |
| schestowitz | I appreciate you rushing things as you competently did. But the weeks of hell since line deactivation is someone you seem to have promised to compensate for. | Mar 29 02:57 |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 29 02:57 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/67728437 | Mar 29 03:02 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @satipera (satipera)'s status on Monday, 21-Mar-11 16:22:58 UTC - Identi.ca: Just catching up with !techbytes 35. @openbytes says "In my opinion what MS has continually excelled with..." Great comic timing you got me. | Mar 29 03:02 |
| schestowitz | I'm back to IRC too... and logging it again | Mar 29 03:14 |
| schestowitz | I think we may have lost some stuff when tessier__ was down for a while | Mar 29 03:14 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/BTCare/status/52739426429845504 | Mar 29 07:39 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @BTCare: @schestowitz Sorry you had problems, good to see you got sorted in the end. If you need help in future feel free to tweet anytime | Mar 29 07:39 |
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| sebsebseb | Hi | Mar 29 08:52 |
| schestowitz | o/ | Mar 29 12:58 |
| schestowitz | Back to normal now... | Mar 29 12:58 |
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| schestowitz | There is this project called ISBA | Mar 29 15:15 |
| schestowitz | It tries to share Chinese knowledge about hardware manu' | Mar 29 15:15 |
| schestowitz | Here's some info and background to anyone who might want to contribute.... | Mar 29 15:15 |
| schestowitz | (21:47:55) anon: hi, are you really a doctor | Mar 29 15:15 |
| schestowitz | (21:48:20) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: yes, not GP type | Mar 29 15:15 |
| schestowitz | (21:48:30) anon: phd? | Mar 29 15:15 |
| schestowitz | (21:48:44) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: yes, medical biophysics | Mar 29 15:15 |
| schestowitz | (21:49:07) anon: Do you mind if I ask why are you working for XXXXX? | Mar 29 15:15 |
| schestowitz | (21:51:10) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: I do a lot of Linux stuff for ages now | Mar 29 15:15 |
| schestowitz | (21:51:43) anon: but how come your not make 250K with your phd? | Mar 29 15:15 |
| schestowitz | (21:51:49) anon: making* | Mar 29 15:15 |
| schestowitz | (21:52:01) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: phds are not big money | Mar 29 15:15 |
| schestowitz | (21:52:32) anon: are you sure? they make a lot in america. | Mar 29 15:15 |
| schestowitz | (21:54:02) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: Depends if working in research | Mar 29 15:15 |
| schestowitz | (21:54:25) anon: like if you go work for a drug company, you can easily make over 100k | Mar 29 15:15 |
| schestowitz | (21:55:00) anon: I have a friend from china that just got hired by google, they started him out at 85k | Mar 29 15:15 |
| schestowitz | (21:55:10) anon: and he doesnt even have a degree in computers | Mar 29 15:15 |
| schestowitz | (21:55:17) anon: he just worked for novell china | Mar 29 15:15 |
| schestowitz | (21:56:00) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: Google tried to hire me a few times | Mar 29 15:15 |
| schestowitz | (21:56:14) anon: how much did they offer you? | Mar 29 15:15 |
| schestowitz | (21:57:19) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: Don't know, they didn't say | Mar 29 15:15 |
| schestowitz | (21:57:27) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: But it's not the right dilemma | Mar 29 15:16 |
| schestowitz | (21:57:38) anon: Why didnt you want to work for google? | Mar 29 15:16 |
| schestowitz | (21:57:43) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: THe question is, do you aspire to do something you enjoy or something that pays more than you need?| | Mar 29 15:16 |
| schestowitz | (21:58:17) anon: then I got to ask the question why did you go for that phd? | Mar 29 15:16 |
| schestowitz | (22:00:21) anon: sorry to bother you | Mar 29 15:16 |
| schestowitz | (22:00:35) anon: we can pick up this conversation later if your not in the mood for it | Mar 29 15:16 |
| schestowitz | (22:03:05) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: The phd is for my research side | Mar 29 15:16 |
| schestowitz | (22:03:32) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: I mix different fields for personal reasons and it's complementary | Mar 29 15:16 |
| schestowitz | (22:04:26) anon: You know you would never make it in china, the only way we have to gauge people is by the amount of money you make. | Mar 29 15:16 |
| schestowitz | (22:06:11) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: I didn't know that | Mar 29 15:16 |
| schestowitz | (22:06:35) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: But it's similar in the West, although some parts of society think beyond this idiocy | Mar 29 15:16 |
| schestowitz | (22:06:59) anon: In college everything is about the score you get. out of school its just about the money you make. their is no room for personal creativity | Mar 29 15:16 |
| schestowitz | (22:07:48) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: Yes, that's a shame. I don't want to be a semi-detached cogwheel just to accrue some numbers] | Mar 29 15:16 |
| schestowitz | (22:08:33) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: Some people live like this and die unhappy, they can't take their money anywhere when they die and their life sort of died man years ago when they decided to go for wage slavery over passion | Mar 29 15:16 |
| schestowitz | (22:09:06) anon: You should learn more about china. | Mar 29 15:16 |
| schestowitz | (22:10:32) anon: if your not a slave to your wages, your just a slave | Mar 29 15:16 |
| schestowitz | (22:10:43) anon: their is no room for personal freedom for the majority of people | Mar 29 15:16 |
| schestowitz | (22:10:57) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: Sounds like what I head in the context of North Korea | Mar 29 15:16 |
| schestowitz | (22:11:11) anon: in north korea your just a slave period | Mar 29 15:16 |
| schestowitz | (22:11:11) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: But the comparison is uncanny and quite inappropriate | Mar 29 15:16 |
| schestowitz | (22:11:21) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: People without differentiators are machines | Mar 29 15:16 |
| schestowitz | (22:11:39) anon: in china, as long as you dont care about politics you are free | Mar 29 15:16 |
| schestowitz | (22:11:53) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: I had a CHinese girlfriend who was ambitious | Mar 29 15:16 |
| schestowitz | (22:11:56) anon: and money is the only way you can increase the comfort of your life | Mar 29 15:16 |
| schestowitz | (22:12:07) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: I didn't understand some parts of her culture | Mar 29 15:16 |
| schestowitz | (22:13:06) anon: They are ambitious without ambition | Mar 29 15:16 |
| schestowitz | (22:13:18) anon: its their parents pushing them and they dont know what they want | Mar 29 15:16 |
| schestowitz | (22:14:24) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: aYes | Mar 29 15:16 |
| schestowitz | (22:14:39) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: THe parents' pressure is what I learned from the BBC's programme on CHina | Mar 29 15:16 |
| schestowitz | (22:14:53) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: Idiotic parents | Mar 29 15:16 |
| schestowitz | (22:14:56) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: But it's a cycle | Mar 29 15:16 |
| schestowitz | (22:15:11) anon: why dont you go take your sabbatical in china and india, and you can learn more about foreign culture | Mar 29 15:18 |
| schestowitz | (22:15:21) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: They replicate their own idiocy (unreasonable for human soul) and pass it on down the generations to mechanise everything | Mar 29 15:19 |
| schestowitz | (22:15:51) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: I thought about it last year, but I enjoy it here and I have plenty of leeway | Mar 29 15:19 |
| schestowitz | (22:16:21) anon: well you will never learn from afar, the japanese have a saying. go see than decide. | Mar 29 15:19 |
| schestowitz | (22:16:31) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: I can't offer china much in terms of contribution, I'd only get in trouble for speaking out about their regime | Mar 29 15:19 |
| schestowitz | (22:17:37) anon: Why don't you worry about countries that are far worse. at least china is making a serious effort to improve the quality of life for its people | Mar 29 15:19 |
| schestowitz | (22:18:11) anon: Your country wants to punish the rich for being hard working and reward the poor for being lazy. | Mar 29 15:19 |
| schestowitz | (22:19:38) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: I think it's the opposite | Mar 29 15:19 |
| schestowitz | (22:19:54) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: It seems as though the country tries to blame the poor for being poor | Mar 29 15:19 |
| schestowitz | (22:20:07) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: And pass all welfare of substance to those not in need of any | Mar 29 15:19 |
| schestowitz | (22:20:25) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: And BTW, I do try to help many in impoverished countries | Mar 29 15:19 |
| schestowitz | (22:20:31) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: See my identica/twitter account | Mar 29 15:19 |
| schestowitz | (22:20:49) anon: sending money doesnt help. that just lets people rip you off. | Mar 29 15:19 |
| schestowitz | (22:20:57) anon: if you want to help you need to get your hands dirty | Mar 29 15:19 |
| schestowitz | (22:21:06) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: See how I contribute, I agree with you on that | Mar 29 15:19 |
| schestowitz | (22:21:22) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: I help by exposing the exploitation and educating the exploited | Mar 29 15:19 |
| schestowitz | (22:21:31) anon: that doesnt work | Mar 29 15:19 |
| schestowitz | (22:21:45) anon: because that only last for 5 minutes, try focusing on one person | Mar 29 15:19 |
| schestowitz | (22:21:55) anon: then you will have a much longer lasting effect on the world | Mar 29 15:19 |
| schestowitz | (22:22:17) anon: my friends parents would adopt children and help the boat children from vietnam get settled in america | Mar 29 15:19 |
| schestowitz | (22:22:49) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: I do develop relationships with people | Mar 29 15:19 |
| schestowitz | (22:22:52) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: It takes longer | Mar 29 15:19 |
| schestowitz | (22:23:16) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: As I have insinuated, I think you misjudge what I am doing a lot of my time | Mar 29 15:19 |
| schestowitz | (22:23:48) anon: Well I don't know, but for the most part I believe its every man for him self. | Mar 29 15:19 |
| schestowitz | (22:24:11) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: p, li { white-space: pre-wrap; } What I do does in fact require confronting many conformists | Mar 29 15:20 |
| schestowitz | (22:24:43) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: For money != for oneself | Mar 29 15:20 |
| schestowitz | (22:24:49) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: These are not analogous | Mar 29 15:20 |
| schestowitz | (22:24:56) anon: Everyone has the right to their own opinion. trying to change their opinion is as bad as them trying to change yours. | Mar 29 15:20 |
| schestowitz | (22:25:27) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: Opposing, contrary opinions are needed | Mar 29 15:20 |
| schestowitz | (22:25:38) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: Propaganda line typically favours those in power | Mar 29 15:20 |
| schestowitz | (22:25:48) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: Lacking dissent, those in power control all minds | Mar 29 15:20 |
| schestowitz | (22:27:11) anon: You should join a charity project in India. That would allow you to learn a new culture and get your hands dirty. | Mar 29 15:20 |
| schestowitz | (22:28:11) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: I create my own projects for such purposes whose actions take place in other places | Mar 29 15:20 |
| schestowitz | (22:28:27) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: Reforms regarding issues such as patent monopolies, abuse of copyrights, DRM, etc. | Mar 29 15:20 |
| schestowitz | (22:28:40) anon: You can join my project, www.isba.org.in | Mar 29 15:20 |
| schestowitz | (22:29:02) anon: I want to teach indians how to build shanzhai | Mar 29 15:20 |
| schestowitz | (22:30:29) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: Nice project | Mar 29 15:20 |
| schestowitz | (22:30:49) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: Perhaps we can join forces in some level and extend each others' reach | Mar 29 15:20 |
| schestowitz | (22:31:02) anon: yeah, I am going to write out my 5 years of manufacturing experience | Mar 29 15:20 |
| schestowitz | (22:31:49) anon: I dont know about that, I just want to teach the indians how to manufacture cheap electronics | Mar 29 15:20 |
| schestowitz | (22:32:48) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: They do mostly s/w these days | Mar 29 15:20 |
| schestowitz | (22:33:01) anon: well they should be doing hardware | Mar 29 15:20 |
| schestowitz | (22:33:07) anon: chinese have the opposite problem | Mar 29 15:20 |
| schestowitz | (22:33:13) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: BRIC has China doing a lot of rare earth, ewaste, heavy manufacuring | Mar 29 15:20 |
| schestowitz | (22:33:15) anon: they only do hardware and not much software | Mar 29 15:20 |
| schestowitz | (22:33:39) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: I'll tell you what... | Mar 29 15:20 |
| schestowitz | (22:33:53) anon: Well I would like you to tell me how you pictured your cell phone being manufactured and I can tell you if it is true or not? | Mar 29 15:26 |
| schestowitz | (22:34:21) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: I'll speak to people who are involved in http://techrights.org/wiki/ (a project I run) and see if they can add | Mar 29 15:26 |
| schestowitz | (22:35:14) anon: well i was talking to a drupal friend of mine, he said I need to do 2 things at first to get a drupal site going. first create the news content, secondly create a good theme | Mar 29 15:26 |
| schestowitz | (22:36:05) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: yes, that's true | Mar 29 15:26 |
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| schestowitz | (22:37:06) anon: Since writing is not my strong suite. I need an editor. And Ive been trying to find somebody that is good at druapl theming that will work cheap. | Mar 29 15:26 |
| schestowitz | (22:37:55) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: I have my hands full with techrights | Mar 29 15:26 |
| schestowitz | (22:38:08) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: But if we can share content, we can thenco-edit | Mar 29 15:26 |
| schestowitz | (22:39:11) anon: I don't know about sharing content, because the only way indians will even thing about making hardware is if they can make money off it. I don't suppose you would want to be associated with a for profit website? | Mar 29 15:26 |
| schestowitz | (22:40:11) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: I don't run any for-profit site | Mar 29 15:26 |
| schestowitz | (22:40:19) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: I share what I know freely | Mar 29 15:26 |
| schestowitz | (22:40:26) anon: Isba will cater to for profit people | Mar 29 15:26 |
| schestowitz | (22:40:35) anon: i wont make any money from it | Mar 29 15:26 |
| schestowitz | (22:40:57) anon: but the people using the site will want to start their own business's | Mar 29 15:26 |
| schestowitz | (22:41:09) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: What about patents? | Mar 29 15:26 |
| schestowitz | (22:41:13) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: You need to fight those too | Mar 29 15:26 |
| schestowitz | (22:41:17) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: As we do | Mar 29 15:26 |
| schestowitz | (22:41:24) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: Patents limit sharing, by design | Mar 29 15:26 |
| schestowitz | (22:41:30) anon: they dont recognize foreign patents in india and china | Mar 29 15:26 |
| schestowitz | (22:41:40) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: Do you know ACTA? | Mar 29 15:26 |
| schestowitz | (22:41:46) anon: No | Mar 29 15:26 |
| schestowitz | (22:41:47) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: And trans-atlantic treaties? | Mar 29 15:26 |
| schestowitz | (22:41:49) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: I leaked some | Mar 29 15:26 |
| schestowitz | (22:42:02) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: The US is trying to bribe the right people to push those patents into BRIC | Mar 29 15:26 |
| schestowitz | (22:42:29) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: Policy from the back door to stomp on developing nation is a field I'm more well-versed in | Mar 29 15:26 |
| schestowitz | (22:43:24) anon: you need to understand this, in china and india, piracy is such a big part of the economies the governments go out the way to support it. | Mar 29 15:26 |
| schestowitz | (22:43:53) anon: out of their way* | Mar 29 15:26 |
| schestowitz | (22:44:03) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: India is now targeted for fabs too | Mar 29 15:26 |
| schestowitz | (22:44:14) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: My in-law goes there to teach them soon | Mar 29 15:26 |
| schestowitz | (22:44:24) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: But Intel is a patent bully | Mar 29 15:26 |
| schestowitz | (22:44:26) anon: Teach about what? | Mar 29 15:26 |
| schestowitz | (22:44:26) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: Like nvidia | Mar 29 15:26 |
| schestowitz | (22:44:42) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: how to design the chips (not fabs only) | Mar 29 15:26 |
| schestowitz | (22:45:01) anon: ok, why does that matter when everyone is using arm and mips? | Mar 29 15:26 |
| schestowitz | (22:45:11) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: It's not "piravcy" BTW, it's sharing | Mar 29 15:27 |
| schestowitz | (22:45:17) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: Somalia has piracy | Mar 29 15:27 |
| schestowitz | (22:45:31) anon: Yeah Stallman said that to me too | Mar 29 15:27 |
| schestowitz | (22:45:46) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: Western propaganda calls that piracy | Mar 29 15:27 |
| schestowitz | (22:46:16) anon: in fact chinese people dont understand the difference between windows and linux | Mar 29 15:27 |
| schestowitz | (22:46:25) anon: they think they are both equally free | Mar 29 15:27 |
| schestowitz | (22:46:33) anon: also chinese value secrets more | Mar 29 15:27 |
| schestowitz | (22:46:45) anon: so if something is open source, they think something is wrong with it | Mar 29 15:27 |
| schestowitz | (23:13:16) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: I'll see if I can get people interested in ISBA... | Mar 29 15:27 |
| schestowitz | (23:13:36) anon: thank you, that would be nice | Mar 29 15:27 |
| schestowitz | (23:13:49) anon: I am willing to give up a lot of chinese secrets | Mar 29 15:27 |
| schestowitz | So there, if you want to get involved, you have the address | Mar 29 15:27 |
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| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/1LNfo.jpg | Mar 30 04:04 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Not a web page! Aborting image/jpeg type | Mar 30 04:04 |
| schestowitz | Do you know people named that? | Mar 30 04:29 |
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| MinceR | i don't | Mar 30 04:31 |
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| schestowitz | Maybe Joshua | Mar 30 04:35 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUlxzgRaR-g | Mar 30 06:15 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: https://identi.ca/notice/68606425 | Mar 30 06:25 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @Gordon Sinclair (thistleweb)'s status on Wednesday, 30-Mar-11 11:57:41 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz promoting m0n0? shame on you lol | Mar 30 06:25 |
| schestowitz | maybe a new name for mono? | Mar 30 06:26 |
| *MinceR shrugs | Mar 30 06:30 | |
| schestowitz | m0n0 | Mar 30 06:31 |
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| sebsebseb | Hi | Mar 31 09:36 |
| qubitar | hi sebsebseb | Mar 31 10:21 |
| sebsebseb | qubitar: hi | Mar 31 10:22 |
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| sebsebseb | gnufreex: why not in the other channel oh and http://www.itwire.com/opinion-and-analysis/open-sauce/46242-linux-kernel-to-be-released-under-bsd-licence | Mar 31 11:24 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @: | Mar 31 11:24 |
| sebsebseb | http://www.itwire.com/opinion-and-analysis/open-sauce/46242-linux-kernel-to-be-released-under-bsd-licence | Mar 31 11:24 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @: | Mar 31 11:24 |
| gnufreex | sebsebseb: April's fool | Mar 31 11:27 |
| sebsebseb | gnufreex: yep | Mar 31 11:28 |
| sebsebseb | great article though | Mar 31 11:28 |
| gnufreex | sebsebseb: It is April in Australia | Mar 31 11:28 |
| gnufreex | And Japan | Mar 31 11:28 |
| gnufreex | I think | Mar 31 11:28 |
| sebsebseb | yep places like that | Mar 31 11:28 |
| sebsebseb | that site though is hosted in USA according to my Firefox add on | Mar 31 11:28 |
| qubitar | By Sam Varghese | Mar 31 12:02 |
| qubitar | Friday, 01 April 2011 00:47 | Mar 31 12:02 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QS0q3mGPGg | Apr 01 05:56 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQRG-xsw3kM | Apr 01 06:22 |
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| schestowitz | LOL Chuck Norris ... silly goose | Apr 01 06:22 |
| MinceR | chuck norris sucks | Apr 01 06:23 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/70200847 | Apr 01 06:29 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @Kev Macphail (kevie)'s status on Friday, 01-Apr-11 13:23:29 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz I tried the recent foresight release, but it wasn't as cutting edge as I expected from their blurb on the website | Apr 01 06:29 |
| schestowitz | I didn't think it was even maintained anymore (people whom I know that coded for it are quiet online) | Apr 01 06:30 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uILsSniSPVc | Apr 01 12:21 |
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| MinceR | schestowitz: can you stop Ender2070's crapflood? | Apr 01 12:39 |
| schestowitz | Let me catch up | Apr 01 12:43 |
| schestowitz | We had major downtime | Apr 01 12:43 |
| schestowitz | So I wasn't looking | Apr 01 12:44 |
| schestowitz | WTH? | Apr 01 12:44 |
| schestowitz | What's he doing?! | Apr 01 12:44 |
| MinceR | he's switching from one lame troll tactic to the next, that's what | Apr 01 12:45 |
| schestowitz | Maybe he tries quitting smoking again :0) | Apr 01 12:49 |
| schestowitz | He has "moods" | Apr 01 12:49 |
| MinceR | doesn't really matter | Apr 01 12:49 |
| MinceR | there are plenty of people who don't have "moods" that make them write blog posts where they call the FSF "communists" or that make them crapflood the TR channels | Apr 01 12:50 |
| MinceR | or that call people "morons" because they dared to point out that their latest favorite toy language lacks essential features | Apr 01 12:50 |
| schestowitz | Ender2070: you're not a troll, but why did you paste all that stuff, I don't get it | Apr 01 12:51 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: you code, I code, I'm not sure some others who talk about P/Ls do.. | Apr 01 12:51 |
| Ender2070 | actually it was incompitence on my end | Apr 01 12:52 |
| Ender2070 | irssi is not my forte | Apr 01 12:52 |
| Ender2070 | didnt look like anything was pasting | Apr 01 12:52 |
| MinceR | strange, on my end irssi does show the lines i've pasted | Apr 01 12:52 |
| MinceR | it even asks if i want to paste at all if it's at least 5 lines or so | Apr 01 12:53 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: ah, OK, then just accidental | Apr 01 12:53 |
| MinceR | i'm not buying it | Apr 01 12:53 |
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| schestowitz | OK, I think we'll get back to doing techbytes a lot more often | Apr 02 04:10 |
| schestowitz | "When will you be able to come to the IRC channel? If you are around, let me know... I got wired!!! :-) We ought to record several times per week like we used to; many people listen and I can upload fast (no need for show notes if you're not in the mood for them)." | Apr 02 04:10 |
| schestowitz | LOL http://twitter.com/#!/SchestowitzLies | Apr 02 05:39 |
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| schestowitz | Obsessed | Apr 02 05:39 |
| schestowitz | Today I resume work (recess since Monday) | Apr 02 06:44 |
| schestowitz | Code that was sent to me last week was intercepted by E-mail filters on the face of it. | Apr 02 06:47 |
| schestowitz | That's why I hate relying on E-mail again... | Apr 02 06:47 |
| schestowitz | I can't believe that even 2 days ago the Microsoft trolls were *Still* libelling me in order to get attention http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/browse_frm/thread/63358e7aa38fa49e# Even when I'm away they lie. In London I had a meeting, this month it'll be in Wales. I was there for a couple of days, nothing special to report. BT resolved it all on Tuesday, parcel shipping delay.. | Apr 02 08:08 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: comp.os.linux.advocacy | Google Groups .::. Size~: 40.12 KB | Apr 02 08:08 |
| schestowitz | They create some fake story about me being disconnected or hosting from home or something. | Apr 02 08:09 |
| schestowitz | A few months ago they were spreading similar lies about my research grants when in fact everything is fine and ERC is funding me until 2012 or later. | Apr 02 08:10 |
| schestowitz | I will work with them for a considerable time to come. | Apr 02 08:11 |
| schestowitz | But the trolls try to lie and cause trouble, as usual | Apr 02 08:11 |
| schestowitz | They still start a thread about me several times per week, even though I haven't posted there since last year. And they call *others* "sick" | Apr 02 08:15 |
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| schestowitz | " | Apr 02 08:16 |
| schestowitz | He is very afraid of a flying chair if he and his sock puppets cannot | Apr 02 08:16 |
| schestowitz | totally discredit Roy. | Apr 02 08:16 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 02 08:16 |
| schestowitz | http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/browse_frm/thread/bef1bdab2262c4f6#+ | Apr 02 08:16 |
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| abeNd-org | http://lisnews.org/save_america_close_your_library | Apr 02 14:11 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Save America. Close Your Library. | LISNews: .::. Size~: 18.76 KB | Apr 02 14:11 |
| MinceR | :D | Apr 02 14:14 |
| schestowitz | "So stop supporting international terrorism. Let your library know how much you love freedom by forcing it to close its doors, for good. For America." | Apr 02 14:32 |
| abeNd-org | it is an april fools post, but still pretty scary | Apr 02 14:34 |
| MinceR | we're living in a scary place | Apr 02 14:38 |
| schestowitz | US libraries are being hijacked by the same prick who takes over schools to indoctrinate the public one way | Apr 02 14:38 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: come to Manchester | Apr 02 14:38 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22aY1bgbXI8 | Apr 02 14:39 |
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| abeNd-org | yea, a lot of US libraries are going "commercial" | Apr 02 14:40 |
| abeNd-org | : | Apr 02 14:40 |
| abeNd-org | Library Systems & Services, LLC (LSSI) | Apr 02 14:43 |
| schestowitz | real?! | Apr 02 14:43 |
| abeNd-org | like a local one recently https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:-P2Qb2c-X4EJ:www.lssi.com/news/Farmers%2520Branch%252011%252017%25202010.pdf+&hl=en&gl=us&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESgwA8RBuAjzX9DtpGa2oeWpqK3JN2aOoG43dG5RdBS1k9xGuSIuGYFcH1sWo0gHowQD6oF2CIJ_cRAyTzPo0hP61u_Nzr42-yb6yIOkWLwpQPhu8AE-LZZThVcxnPjZAeaQ-Ysf&sig=AHIEtbTFRvdoNafodfBzygtcWlcbRJmOlA&pli=1 | Apr 02 14:43 |
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| abeNd-org | they fired everyone there | Apr 02 14:43 |
| schestowitz | :-( | Apr 02 14:43 |
| schestowitz | I was gonna say LOL before you mentioned layoffs | Apr 02 14:43 |
| schestowitz | Everything becomes a business | Apr 02 14:44 |
| schestowitz | US healthcare | Apr 02 14:44 |
| schestowitz | USPTO... | Apr 02 14:44 |
| schestowitz | FDA... | Apr 02 14:44 |
| schestowitz | Business will solve all the world's problem :-) | Apr 02 14:44 |
| schestowitz | *ms | Apr 02 14:44 |
| schestowitz | Profit motive.. ask Fiedman about how the invisible hands will protect us :-) | Apr 02 14:44 |
| schestowitz | *Fied | Apr 02 14:44 |
| schestowitz | *Fried | Apr 02 14:44 |
| schestowitz | Meh | Apr 02 14:44 |
| schestowitz | Can't type on this sofa... | Apr 02 14:44 |
| abeNd-org | & then rehired people at burger flipping salaries, no requirement for MLS (Master of Library Science), etc | Apr 02 14:44 |
| MinceR | try typing on a keyboard instead ;) | Apr 02 14:45 |
| schestowitz | But at least they feel overqualified | Apr 02 14:45 |
| abeNd-org | no, most didnt bother going back | Apr 02 14:45 |
| schestowitz | A Polish friend of mine is being fired from a job where he over-performed | Apr 02 14:45 |
| schestowitz | He is a personal trainer and they require that he only writes shoddy programmes for n00bs | Apr 02 14:45 |
| schestowitz | Because he is actually a fitness expert they let him go.. | Apr 02 14:46 |
| schestowitz | abeNd-org: it's not about qualifications these days but about connections | Apr 02 14:46 |
| schestowitz | Like parents, which private college you go to, how many financial barriers for some papers you can get past... I watched a show (which is rare) the other day in London and it showed how extreme this is in here | Apr 02 14:47 |
| schestowitz | But the US seems worse in that regard because college is vastly more expensive | Apr 02 14:47 |
| schestowitz | That said, in the UK the govt. stops supporting students, too, tripling many students' debt | Apr 02 14:48 |
| abeNd-org | funny that you are supposed to be educated, but for most folks to be educated you have to put yourself so far into debt that you probably will never see the light of day | Apr 02 14:49 |
| abeNd-org | if they do actually start shutting down public libraries like they have been, or at least commercializing them & charging (beyond usual taxes) for them, will colleges start barring visitors from using collegiate libraries? | Apr 02 14:52 |
| schestowitz | !google lancelot | Apr 02 15:01 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | [1] - Lancelot - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lancelot | Apr 02 15:01 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | [2] - Lancelot | http://www.pantheon.org/articles/l/lancelot.html | Apr 02 15:01 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | [3] - Sir Lancelot (Sir Launcelot) of the court of King Arthur | http://www.sir-lancelot.co.uk/ | Apr 02 15:01 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | [4] - LANCELOT: TEXTS, IMAGES, BASIC INFORMATION | http://www.lib.rochester.edu/camelot/lanmenu.htm | Apr 02 15:01 |
| schestowitz | Great stuff | Apr 02 15:01 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/directhex/statuses/54296008703746051 | Apr 02 23:59 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @directhex: Techrights isn't just the kind o site that posts its April 1st story on March 31st. It also links the GNOME 3 delay story as true on April 2 | Apr 02 23:59 |
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| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/70305386 | Apr 03 01:58 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @George Hostler (ghostler)'s status on Sunday, 03-Apr-11 08:39:01 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz #Google #humility #algorithm http://ur1.ca/3qzxx I have left a comment, this is more wicked than #Microsoft #Evangelism doc. | Apr 03 01:58 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | -> Title: Google Promotes Libel With โQuality Deserves Diversityโ Algorithm | The Public Record .::. Size~: 54.77 KB | Apr 03 01:58 |
| schestowitz | @fabsh is reaching 50,000 dents today http://macno.org/denticator/?user=schestowitz&service=identi.ca&chart=flash | Apr 03 02:03 |
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| schestowitz | Useless results on Google... http://www.google.com/search?hl=&q=matlab+find+nose&sourceid=navclient-ff&rlz=1B5GGGL_enGB315GB316&ie=UTF-8#sclient=psy&hl=en&c2coff=1&rlz=1B5GGGL_enGB315GB316&source=hp&q=matlab+find+nose+3d&aq=f&aqi=&aql=f&oq=&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=c99decee79d1fe4a | Apr 03 02:25 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: matlab find nose - Google Search .::. Size~: 73.75 KB | Apr 03 02:25 |
| schestowitz | At least in my case the libel against me is hardly visible in Google | Apr 03 02:26 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOF07IlF6Lw | Apr 03 02:43 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: YouTube - Scooter - Official Video Megamix .::. Size~: 127.99 KB | Apr 03 02:43 |
| schestowitz | re http://identi.ca/notice/70320032 - well, maybe this just shows that staying wiith one's name offline is now the best strategy | Apr 03 07:37 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @George Hostler (ghostler)'s status on Sunday, 03-Apr-11 14:36:14 UTC - Identi.ca: @themadhatter @schestowitz BTW Search on my name and you'll see what I mean - #"Google Humility Algorithm" really sucks, http://ur1.ca/3r2h2 | Apr 03 07:37 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | -> Title: Interview: What is the "Google Humility Algorithmโข"? .::. Size~: 14.69 KB | Apr 03 07:37 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/70320214 | Apr 03 07:42 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @George Hostler (ghostler)'s status on Sunday, 03-Apr-11 14:39:57 UTC - Identi.ca: @themadhatter @schestowitz I just wanted to add, even #Bing doesn't do what #Google does, their search engine is a libellous worthless work. | Apr 03 07:42 |
| schestowitz | That's because they pick from marginal forums | Apr 03 07:42 |
| schestowitz | And Bong doesn't go far enough | Apr 03 07:42 |
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| MinceR | http://pics.kuvaton.com/kuvei/angry_nerds.jpg | Apr 04 05:23 |
| roy_ | I posted something similar earlier | Apr 04 06:00 |
| roy_ | I didn't see it in context | Apr 04 06:00 |
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| schestowitz | > My Doctor Roy, | Apr 04 06:04 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 04 06:04 |
| schestowitz | > I can't believe it. Six years flew by. Anyway, but with all my | Apr 04 06:05 |
| schestowitz | > appreciation, here it goes: | Apr 04 06:05 |
| schestowitz | Yes, we're turning 5 soon. We should arrange a techrights party of sorts. | Apr 04 06:05 |
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| schestowitz | > I will write something about me during the course of the week and as | Apr 04 09:57 |
| schestowitz | > soon as I have it ready email it to you. | Apr 04 09:57 |
| schestowitz | That would be nice | Apr 04 09:57 |
| schestowitz | > I wish I could be there. God willing someday my friend! Thanks | Apr 04 09:58 |
| schestowitz | I want to travel to south America one day. I just don't travel much anymore. | Apr 04 09:58 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/humphreybc/statuses/54884676451581953 | Apr 04 09:59 |
| schestowitz | me: "thanks. We try ;-)" | Apr 04 09:59 |
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| sebsebseb | hi | Apr 04 10:01 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: hi | Apr 04 10:01 |
| qu1j0t3 | sebsebseb: hi | Apr 04 10:01 |
| sebsebseb | qu1j0t3: hi | Apr 04 10:01 |
| schestowitz | [18:08] <GoForbes28> "it originate from and depends upon" should be "originates" | Apr 04 10:11 |
| schestowitz | fixed | Apr 04 10:11 |
| schestowitz | It's nice we are now crowdsourcing | Apr 04 10:11 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: I am thinking about maybe trying Ubuntu 11.04 out on here replaceing PC Linux OS with it, soon after release | Apr 04 10:12 |
| sebsebseb | a few days after release or something | Apr 04 10:12 |
| schestowitz | Maybe | Apr 04 10:17 |
| schestowitz | What about ubunity? | Apr 04 10:17 |
| schestowitz | It's all different by default now | Apr 04 10:17 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: also going to try the Fedora Gnome Shell Live CD later I guess | Apr 04 10:18 |
| sebsebseb | latest one you know | Apr 04 10:18 |
| sebsebseb | before final comes out very soon | Apr 04 10:18 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: yes there will be stuff in Ubuntu 11.04 I won't like, but can remove or ignore that like before | Apr 04 10:19 |
| sebsebseb | Ubuntu One | Apr 04 10:19 |
| sebsebseb | for example | Apr 04 10:19 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: also it's not like Firefox 4 will be going around telling websites I am running Ubuntu :D | Apr 04 10:19 |
| sebsebseb | it will just say Linux | Apr 04 10:19 |
| sebsebseb | and I have done every release of Ubuntu since the second release in 2005, on real hardware, so why not 11.04 as well? | Apr 04 10:20 |
| sebsebseb | plus I think to try out Unity properly need to do so on real hardware really | Apr 04 10:20 |
| schestowitz | yeah, I see what you mean.. | Apr 04 10:21 |
| schestowitz | Geez, you type so fast | Apr 04 10:21 |
| schestowitz | I can't even read that fast | Apr 04 10:21 |
| sebsebseb | that wasn't even my fastest :D | Apr 04 10:22 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: I'll be idleing in the big Ubuntu channel and such, when 11.04 comes out, the plan is to hardly ever type there though, which means yep I don't want to do support in there | Apr 04 10:22 |
| sebsebseb | ,but I may end up doing a little | Apr 04 10:22 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: and no I don't think I will be recommending Unity or not in Ubuntu anyway to anyone :D | Apr 04 10:23 |
| sebsebseb | from a technical perspective, Unity is hmm, the copyright assignments, Canonical not really playing upstream properly with it and that kind of thing | Apr 04 10:24 |
| sebsebseb | from a user perspective, well it's another software choice, and something that can be used to compete against Windows and Mac OS X as well | Apr 04 10:24 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: also at the moment Unity will be able to do quite a lot more than Gnome Shell really | Apr 04 10:25 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: read http://www.itworld.com/open-source/142340/biggest-legal-danger-open-source | Apr 04 10:25 |
| schestowitz | it's new | Apr 04 10:25 |
| schestowitz | about ubuntu too | Apr 04 10:25 |
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| TechrightsBot-sc | Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-sc running phIRCe v0.53 | Apr 04 10:26 |
| sebsebseb | plus I easilly have Gnome 2 when I want it with 11.04 as well, if I do this | Apr 04 10:26 |
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| sebsebseb | altough yeah with the Canonical patches, unless I remove those, but well I already tried the fall back for 11.04 in vm, and it's ok | Apr 04 10:26 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: plus I got certain issues with PC Linux OS that annoy me now | Apr 04 10:27 |
| sebsebseb | not being able to play OGG always for example, and I guess MP3 as well, some weird issue | Apr 04 10:27 |
| sebsebseb | listening to techbytes episode 29 right now | Apr 04 10:27 |
| sebsebseb | by the way | Apr 04 10:27 |
| sebsebseb | yep I am behind still | Apr 04 10:27 |
| sebsebseb | by quite a bit | Apr 04 10:27 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: I guess if you weren't changing ISP, that techbytes may have been on like episode 40 by now | Apr 04 10:28 |
| sebsebseb | rather than 35, which I think is the latest? | Apr 04 10:28 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: maybe | Apr 04 10:29 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: kapman lags a lot in PC Linux OS which annoys me. and these choqok issues ah! | Apr 04 10:29 |
| schestowitz | It's also up to Tom | Apr 04 10:29 |
| schestowitz | Tim | Apr 04 10:29 |
| schestowitz | I want to do the show 3 times a week | Apr 04 10:29 |
| sebsebseb | oh 3 a week | Apr 04 10:29 |
| schestowitz | But he has too little time, I suggested we record immediately without show notes | Apr 04 10:29 |
| schestowitz | AHHH | Apr 04 10:29 |
| schestowitz | choqok | Apr 04 10:29 |
| schestowitz | Drove me NUTS today | Apr 04 10:29 |
| schestowitz | Arrrrrrrrrrrrrgh | Apr 04 10:29 |
| sebsebseb | How so? | Apr 04 10:29 |
| schestowitz | Memroty and crashes | Apr 04 10:30 |
| sebsebseb | it's a nice client when it works properly, but had major issues with it with PC Linux OS :( | Apr 04 10:30 |
| schestowitz | yes, exactly | Apr 04 10:30 |
| schestowitz | Nice in how it works | Apr 04 10:30 |
| schestowitz | But so wrinkled... | Apr 04 10:30 |
| sebsebseb | wrinkled ? | Apr 04 10:30 |
| schestowitz | Hoggign resources and crashing | Apr 04 10:30 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: has creases | Apr 04 10:30 |
| sebsebseb | first of all nagging me about using kwallet, and I would be like no, I don't want to use kwallet | Apr 04 10:30 |
| sebsebseb | and it would nag me | Apr 04 10:30 |
| sebsebseb | and be really slow to load up | Apr 04 10:30 |
| sebsebseb | then upgarding choqok and disabling kwallet didn't even help and uh | Apr 04 10:30 |
| schestowitz | yes | Apr 04 10:31 |
| schestowitz | I had that too today | Apr 04 10:31 |
| schestowitz | It took it minutes to start | Apr 04 10:31 |
| schestowitz | I thought it had gotten stuck | Apr 04 10:31 |
| sebsebseb | then some issue aadding account, and then it seemed to open my identica in it later. ,but all this being really slow to load up issues and so on | Apr 04 10:31 |
| sebsebseb | yes exactly minutes to start up properly | Apr 04 10:31 |
| sebsebseb | that kind of thing | Apr 04 10:31 |
| sebsebseb | and may have to tell it to open up again sometimes even | Apr 04 10:32 |
| schestowitz | I manage 6 accounts with it, mostly the tr ones with twitter/identica split | Apr 04 10:32 |
| schestowitz | And I have to minimise it before closing | Apr 04 10:32 |
| sebsebseb | shame Choqok issues, because well it can show 1000 dents in time lines :) | Apr 04 10:32 |
| sebsebseb | it can go back properly and show 1000 dents in time liens | Apr 04 10:32 |
| schestowitz | Otherwise it crashes withou remembering what I have read | Apr 04 10:32 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: sometimes there are some pretty interesting dents on identica I find, but a lot of not intersting dents as well | Apr 04 10:32 |
| schestowitz | Sometimes I get 6000 | Apr 04 10:33 |
| schestowitz | But then it can take up almost a gig of RAM | Apr 04 10:33 |
| schestowitz | maybe 700MB | Apr 04 10:33 |
| sebsebseb | ,but going through these 52 pages really does suck to see old dents: http://identi.ca/sebsebseb/all | Apr 04 10:33 |
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| sebsebseb | apparanetly statusnet 1.0 will have custom time lines though :D | Apr 04 10:34 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: anyway yeah it seems, that Choqok will get issues in other distro's as well :( | Apr 04 10:34 |
| schestowitz | 1.0? | Apr 04 10:35 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: it does | Apr 04 10:35 |
| schestowitz | even ubuntu | Apr 04 10:35 |
| schestowitz | And I got it from PPA IIRC | Apr 04 10:35 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: whatever the next major version of statusnet is | Apr 04 10:35 |
| sebsebseb | uh your on Ubuntu? | Apr 04 10:35 |
| schestowitz | kubuntu right now.. | Apr 04 10:35 |
| schestowitz | Depends when/where | Apr 04 10:35 |
| sebsebseb | Kubuntu 11.04 beta? | Apr 04 10:35 |
| schestowitz | I use fedora at work | Apr 04 10:35 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: 10.04 LTS | Apr 04 10:35 |
| sebsebseb | Why? | Apr 04 10:35 |
| schestowitz | Why *not*? | Apr 04 10:36 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: I thought you didn't like Canonical that much anymore | Apr 04 10:36 |
| schestowitz | Why do you use Virgin Media? | Apr 04 10:36 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: but that was a year ago | Apr 04 10:37 |
| schestowitz | 10.04 < april | Apr 04 10:37 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: since I don't pay for the Internet Connection here at the moment, but I might have to later this year hmm | Apr 04 10:37 |
| schestowitz | Sometimes I also test Mint | Apr 04 10:37 |
| schestowitz | Ah, I envy you.. | Apr 04 10:37 |
| schestowitz | Someone else deals with ISP mess for you... | Apr 04 10:37 |
| schestowitz | And you share what's available on the line rather than pay 36 quid/month for one user | Apr 04 10:38 |
| sebsebseb | yeah, but that's what happens for loads of people when... | Apr 04 10:38 |
| sebsebseb | when they still... | Apr 04 10:38 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: yep share the connection with my family | Apr 04 10:38 |
| sebsebseb | Did you get a discount for BT or not? | Apr 04 10:39 |
| sebsebseb | also it's not like you need the most expensive package anyway? | Apr 04 10:39 |
| schestowitz | Yes, 33 quid | Apr 04 10:39 |
| sebsebseb | what would it be normally? | Apr 04 10:39 |
| schestowitz | It doesn't matter, I'm tired of BT | Apr 04 10:40 |
| sebsebseb | your pretty much stuck with them now I guess? | Apr 04 10:40 |
| schestowitz | But I have a working line again, I can't be arsed to shop around again | Apr 04 10:40 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: indeed | Apr 04 10:43 |
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| schestowitz | [23:00] <_Goblin> Tonights title - "Escaping the soaps" ???? | Apr 04 15:03 |
| schestowitz | [23:02] <_Goblin> or "Bad Boy Ballmer and his Botched up Business?" | Apr 04 15:03 |
| schestowitz | [23:02] <_Goblin> or.... | Apr 04 15:03 |
| schestowitz | [23:03] <_Goblin> "Moving the goalposts - Wintrolls concede?" | Apr 04 15:03 |
| schestowitz | [23:03] <schestowitz> I'll use both :-) | Apr 04 15:03 |
| schestowitz | [23:03] <_Goblin> Im brainstorming! | Apr 04 15:03 |
| schestowitz | [23:08] <Guest15745> at meeting tomorrow, but can hook up later in afternoon/evening if you like for foods | Apr 04 15:09 |
| schestowitz | [23:08] <Guest15745> are you busy tomorrow day? | Apr 04 15:09 |
| schestowitz | [23:08] <schestowitz> No, all free. | Apr 04 15:09 |
| schestowitz | [23:08] <schestowitz> What time? | Apr 04 15:09 |
| schestowitz | ๏ฟผ | Apr 04 15:09 |
| schestowitz | [23:09] <Guest15745> ok i will bell you in morning off to bed now | Apr 04 15:09 |
| schestowitz | [23:09] <schestowitz> Sure | Apr 04 15:09 |
| schestowitz | ๏ฟผ | Apr 04 15:09 |
| schestowitz | [23:10] <Guest15745> speak in morn | Apr 04 15:09 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Metztli_IT/status/55041580108750848 | Apr 04 16:30 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @Metztli_IT: โบ @schestowitz: โบ @dagwieers: CentOS 5.6 release imminent http://tinyurl.com/3fxb5ze โ& hopefully #CentOS 6.โบ is released before #RHEL 6.1 | Apr 04 16:30 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | -> Title: CentOS 5.6 release imminent | Field Commander Wieers .::. Size~: 10.32 KB | Apr 04 16:30 |
| schestowitz | If not, they should f**k RHEL (fork I mean, wait, you thought something else? sudo fsck?) | Apr 04 16:31 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: What does segmentation fault mean anyway? | Apr 04 16:46 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: trying to recover some files | Apr 04 16:46 |
| schestowitz | it goes out of bounds allotted to the program | Apr 04 16:58 |
| schestowitz | Usually means bad programming/code, raising exception and security creeps in to shut it down | Apr 04 16:58 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: well two good answers to that then, from bruce and you | Apr 04 17:01 |
| sebsebseb | :) | Apr 04 17:01 |
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| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/70434023 https://identi.ca/notice/70434201 https://identi.ca/notice/70434468 https://identi.ca/notice/70434704 https://identi.ca/notice/70435187 https://identi.ca/notice/70435718 | Apr 05 00:00 |
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| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/70434023 https://identi.ca/notice/70434201 https://identi.ca/notice/70434468 https://identi.ca/notice/70434704 https://identi.ca/notice/70435187 https://identi.ca/notice/70435718 | Apr 05 00:01 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @George Hostler (ghostler)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Apr-11 02:40:39 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz I've used Lotus Symphony, both the Linux and Windows versions. It's based on OpenOffice and is easy to use. It is a good suite. | Apr 05 00:01 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @George Hostler (ghostler)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Apr-11 02:43:35 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz I like the article's title "Moved by Freedom โ Powered by Standards". Standards driven is the only way to go, counters lock-in. | Apr 05 00:01 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @George Hostler (ghostler)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Apr-11 02:47:20 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz "But you can copy it!" ... "Depriving its owner of potential income!" LOL we should be standards based and avoid vendor lock-in | Apr 05 00:01 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @George Hostler (ghostler)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Apr-11 02:50:53 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz "Nokia recently chose Windows Phone 7 .. for its smartphones, which .. says will save on research and development costs" - Not. | Apr 05 00:01 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @George Hostler (ghostler)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Apr-11 02:58:18 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz It took a lawsuit from a deceased to make disclosure happen. It all seemed to be manipulated including the housing market crash | Apr 05 00:01 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @George Hostler (ghostler)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Apr-11 03:05:47 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Perhaps, but to be content with a current version, would it not be practical to base decision on a Ubuntu LTE based Linux Mint? | Apr 05 00:01 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/70437052 Long ago they sent many jobs to Asia. | Apr 05 00:02 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @George Hostler (ghostler)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Apr-11 03:27:12 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Microsoft employees may be concerned about receiving a pink slip (layoff). IMHO, a lot of resources been off-shored from US. | Apr 05 00:02 |
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| qubitar | the computer > neanderthallers > secret societies > government | Apr 05 06:16 |
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| sebsebseb | hi | Apr 05 09:43 |
| qu1j0t3 | hi | Apr 05 09:44 |
| sebsebseb | qu1j0t3: hi | Apr 05 09:44 |
| qubitar | hi | Apr 05 10:29 |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: hi | Apr 05 10:29 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: hi | Apr 05 10:29 |
| MinceR | hi | Apr 05 10:29 |
| qu1j0t3 | hm | Apr 05 10:30 |
| qubitar | hm | Apr 05 10:35 |
| qubitar | http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/02/16/945768/-The-HB-Gary-Email-That-Should-Concern-Us-All | Apr 05 10:44 |
| qubitar | 'HBGary people are talking about creating "personas", what we would call sockpuppets. This is not new. PR firms have been using fake "people" to promote products and other things for a while now, both online and even in bars and coffee houses.' | Apr 05 10:44 |
| qubitar | 'Using the assigned social media accounts we can automate the posting of content that is relevant to the persona. In this case there are specific social media strategy website RSS feeds we can subscribe to and then repost content on twitter with the appropriate hashtags. ' | Apr 05 10:45 |
| qubitar | 'There are a variety of social media tricks we can use to add a level of realness to all fictitious personas' | Apr 05 10:46 |
| qubitar | the government is making sockpuppets to promote the agenda | Apr 05 10:47 |
| qubitar | these people are likely on many of our follow lists | Apr 05 10:48 |
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| schestowitz | qubitar: yeah, but old news | Apr 05 14:00 |
| schestowitz | http://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2011-04-03-007-39-OP-MS-SW-0001 | Apr 05 14:05 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 05 14:05 |
| schestowitz | Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/By_appointment_to_Her _Majesty_the_Queen | Apr 05 14:05 |
| schestowitz | This is about granting some very particular guys the exclusive right to exploit a market. | Apr 05 14:05 |
| schestowitz | They either amassed an opulent portfolio of patent rights enabling them to even sue the Pope or got rich enough to buy great numbers of patents; all this in turn makes them richer and richer -- to the point their power can vanquish those people they couldn't buy, so they can pry their patents from their cold fingers. | Apr 05 14:05 |
| schestowitz | The USPTO sanctions these events, oblivious to all harm made to the small, genuine inventors -- and to all damage done to the consumers who would benefit from those inventors' activity. | Apr 05 14:05 |
| schestowitz | ... because mkt depts can devise lots and lots of ways to extract money from suckers -- and by suckers, I mean us, of course. | Apr 05 14:05 |
| schestowitz | PS: I fortunately live in a country without software patents... but with initiatives like "son of ACTA" on the horizon, one wonders when the disease is going to spread and reach home sweet home. | Apr 05 14:05 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 05 14:05 |
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| sebsebseb | qu1j0t3: hi | Apr 05 19:21 |
| qu1j0t3 | sebsebseb: hi | Apr 05 19:22 |
| sebsebseb | qu1j0t3: so I am wrong, there are parts of the USA a head of me hmm | Apr 05 19:25 |
| sebsebseb | or does this place not count as being one really? | Apr 05 19:25 |
| sebsebseb | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Mariana_Islands | Apr 05 19:26 |
| qu1j0t3 | hehehe | Apr 05 19:33 |
| qu1j0t3 | well, it's not the continental USA | Apr 05 19:33 |
| sebsebseb | qu1j0t3: now I can't even find that place on date and time | Apr 05 20:03 |
| sebsebseb | qu1j0t3: anyway I guess my dent is pretty much correct if not correct: http://identi.ca/conversation/68208985#notice-70505924 | Apr 05 20:04 |
| sebsebseb | qu1j0t3: of course I could send a dent to the !Gnome group saying that, I might be wrong with some sort of link to do with it, but that would be a bit odd | Apr 05 20:05 |
| sebsebseb | really | Apr 05 20:05 |
| sebsebseb | qu1j0t3: want to reply to it maybe, saying something to do with it? | Apr 05 20:05 |
| qu1j0t3 | sebsebseb: I wouldn't sweat it, really. | Apr 05 20:07 |
| qu1j0t3 | sebsebseb: btw http://www.timeanddate.com is a useful site. | Apr 05 20:08 |
| sebsebseb | yes | Apr 05 20:08 |
| sebsebseb | that's where I found out about those islands from | Apr 05 20:08 |
| qu1j0t3 | ah. | Apr 05 20:08 |
| sebsebseb | then did a Google search | Apr 05 20:08 |
| sebsebseb | now can't even find the islands on there though | Apr 05 20:08 |
| qu1j0t3 | i use it sometimes because i can never keep TZ straight in my head, esp with Daylight Savings | Apr 05 20:09 |
| sebsebseb | I am reasonably good at them I guess | Apr 05 20:11 |
| sebsebseb | mainly for Europe of course though | Apr 05 20:11 |
| qu1j0t3 | :) | Apr 05 20:11 |
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| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/adrocknaphobia/statuses/55443913200238592 | Apr 06 00:25 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jwildeboer/status/55505915188740096 https://twitter.com/jwildeboer/status/55506134651514880 https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/55507415696801792 https://twitter.com/jwildeboer/status/55508980084121600 | Apr 06 00:30 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @jwildeboer: @FOSSpatents @verofakto @schestowitz for starters http://t.co/q4D6HYZ | Apr 06 00:30 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | -> Title: Open Source iPhone Apps List โ Real App Store Code Examples! | iPhone, iOS 4, iPad SDK Development Tutorial and Programming Tips .::. Size~: 69.06 KB | Apr 06 00:30 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @jwildeboer: @FOSSpatents @verofakto @schestowitz and I am pondering to write an angry birds like game called Patent Wars ;-) | Apr 06 00:30 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @FOSSpatents: @jwildeboer cc: @verofakto @schestowitz Whenever anyone seeks GPL enforcement, Apple removes GPL'd apps immediately. | Apr 06 00:30 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @jwildeboer: @FOSSpatents @verofakto @schestowitz which is worse but flat out putting GPLv3 as excluded in ToS the way MSFT does it is more evil. | Apr 06 00:30 |
| schestowitz | THe mobbyists starts to involve stalkers in the coversation | Apr 06 00:30 |
| schestowitz | It speaks volumes | Apr 06 00:30 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/55509869234626560 https://twitter.com/jwildeboer/status/55511549061767168 https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/55511635602837504 | Apr 06 00:30 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @FOSSpatents: @jwildeboer cc: @verofakto @schestowitz ToS must provide clarity for the ecosystem. Worst case: an app is thrown out for no known reason. | Apr 06 00:31 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @jwildeboer: @FOSSpatents @verofakto @schestowitz you wanted to know about GPLed apps for iPad. I delivered. EOT for me. | Apr 06 00:31 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @FOSSpatents: @verofakto Actually @schestowitz does criticize companies like RHT from time to time, also recently. But he often uses double standards. | Apr 06 00:31 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/explodingwalrus/status/55561077425053696 | Apr 06 02:35 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @explodingwalrus: @schestowitz Nice to see a matt screen on a new laptop :) | Apr 06 02:35 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpz8PMcRJSY Double Standard < good new vid | Apr 06 03:53 |
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| schestowitz | " | Apr 06 05:31 |
| schestowitz | > You should talk to your lawyer. I didn't read what you wrote, but I | Apr 06 05:31 |
| schestowitz | > can't advise on any legal issues anyway. There are rules about it. | Apr 06 05:31 |
| schestowitz | I did not pass it to you for purposes like consultation and we resolved this over at twitter. But the point I was trying to get across, this guy is afraid having said what pretty much left him naked (he may have had a senior moment or gotten sloppy); he pretty much conceded that TH (partly owned by Microsoft) held his hand like Microsoft/W-E held O'Gara's hand while they coordinated uniform, well-planned attacks on Linux/OSDL. | Apr 06 05:31 |
| schestowitz | This ought to be fuel for Groklaw. | Apr 06 05:31 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 06 05:31 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/cheezburgrmania/status/55590434948399104 | Apr 06 05:32 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @cheezburgrmania: @schestowitz threats against :-( must mean you are effective | Apr 06 05:32 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/70534179 | Apr 06 05:33 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @satipera (satipera)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Apr-11 12:19:26 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz what is the nature of legal threat from Florian Mueller | Apr 06 05:33 |
| schestowitz | I alluded to him getting non-public information of TurboHercules (partly-owned by Microsoft) and he then took my claim out of context. | Apr 06 05:34 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/70534541 | Apr 06 05:34 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @agentsmith's status on Wednesday, 06-Apr-11 12:26:54 UTC - Identi.ca: @satipera @schestowitz Ops, Mr. Patents is after you, Dr. Roy ? | Apr 06 05:34 |
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| schestowitz | I seem to be disrupting his lobbying career (which is still in its diapers). He became what he had fought. | Apr 06 05:37 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/70535055 | Apr 06 05:38 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @satipera (satipera)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Apr-11 12:36:52 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Yes, but what legal action is he threatening by email? | Apr 06 05:38 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/70537450 | Apr 06 06:16 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @Techrights' IRC Aggregator (boycottnovell)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Apr-11 13:13:12 UTC - Identi.ca: FFII President Denounces Googleโs Bid for Patents http://ur1.ca/3shl7 #uspto #monooly | Apr 06 06:16 |
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| sebsebseb | Hi | Apr 06 09:46 |
| qu1j0t3 | hi | Apr 06 09:58 |
| sebsebseb | qu1j0t3: Gnome 3 today :) | Apr 06 10:02 |
| qu1j0t3 | oh. | Apr 06 10:02 |
| qubitar | too bad gnome sucks | Apr 06 10:13 |
| sebsebseb | qubitar: no | Apr 06 10:13 |
| qubitar | yes | Apr 06 10:14 |
| qu1j0t3 | yes. no. | Apr 06 10:15 |
| qubitar | they don't cooperate with anyone else | Apr 06 10:22 |
| qu1j0t3 | well, their dna is bad. that dangerous nitwit de Icaza. | Apr 06 10:23 |
| qu1j0t3 | i've considered abandoning gnome because of this association. | Apr 06 10:23 |
| sebsebseb | qu1j0t3: yeah, but he doesn't work on GNome 3 I think? | Apr 06 10:25 |
| qu1j0t3 | sebsebseb: he founded the project. | Apr 06 10:25 |
| qu1j0t3 | hence: faulty DNA | Apr 06 10:25 |
| sebsebseb | yeah Gnome 1 or whatever | Apr 06 10:26 |
| sebsebseb | and he did whatever for Gnome 2 | Apr 06 10:26 |
| sebsebseb | ,but I think Gnome 3 is mainly because of other people really | Apr 06 10:26 |
| qu1j0t3 | unfortunately his association is an indelible fact, unless they distanced themselves in writing (and they should!) | Apr 06 10:26 |
| qubitar | gnome will cooperate with freedesktop.org as long as they are using gnomes ideas | Apr 06 10:33 |
| qubitar | gtk3 was causing issues | Apr 06 10:34 |
| qubitar | KDE themes gnome apps so they don't look stupid in KDE | Apr 06 10:35 |
| qubitar | fortunately this problem won't show up for end users | Apr 06 10:35 |
| schestowitz | qubitar: hi | Apr 06 11:14 |
| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: Quadrescence: yesterday and today I found two more people who can help create the company and get clients | Apr 06 11:16 |
| qu1j0t3 | ok | Apr 06 11:24 |
| qubitar | yo yo yo roy | Apr 06 11:49 |
| qubitar | whats up | Apr 06 11:49 |
| schestowitz | just having some chomod problems | Apr 06 12:04 |
| schestowitz | in mdiawiki | Apr 06 12:04 |
| qubitar | chomod? | Apr 06 12:14 |
| qubitar | never tried mdiawiki | Apr 06 12:14 |
| qu1j0t3 | lol | Apr 06 12:14 |
| schestowitz | I've just updated http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/User:Schestowitz | Apr 06 12:15 |
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| qu1j0t3 | i hard it works vry wll | Apr 06 12:15 |
| schestowitz | Basically, it was not my fault | Apr 06 12:15 |
| schestowitz | I was on VOIP with a mate | Apr 06 12:15 |
| schestowitz | And I tell him I knock my head with it | Apr 06 12:15 |
| schestowitz | This error: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/wiki/mediawiki/119354 | Apr 06 12:15 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Upload Directory Issue | Wikipedia | Mediawiki .::. Size~: 23.31 KB | Apr 06 12:15 |
| schestowitz | But permissions were fine | Apr 06 12:15 |
| schestowitz | I hadn't even changed them | Apr 06 12:15 |
| schestowitz | It turns out that it just didn't like the filename!!! | Apr 06 12:15 |
| schestowitz | So bad error message basically | Apr 06 12:16 |
| schestowitz | http://freelish.us/notice/3406382 | Apr 06 12:21 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Dimitri Dhuyvetter (d)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Apr-11 14:22:57 UTC - freelish.us .::. Size~: 8.9 KB | Apr 06 12:21 |
| qu1j0t3 | hm. | Apr 06 12:23 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: a new service to special-case in the bot? | Apr 06 12:23 |
| schestowitz | Maybe | Apr 06 12:24 |
| schestowitz | But too many cases | Apr 06 12:24 |
| qu1j0t3 | three? | Apr 06 12:24 |
| qu1j0t3 | depends if you cite them enough. | Apr 06 12:24 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/OpenIBM/statuses/55638390464446464 | Apr 06 12:25 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @OpenIBM: #RedHat is Not Transparent Enough http://techrights.org/2011/03/01/dubious-secrets/ #linux | Apr 06 12:25 |
| schestowitz | Hmm... IMB? | Apr 06 12:25 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | -> Title: Red Hat is Not Transparent Enough | Techrights .::. Size~: 87.25 KB | Apr 06 12:25 |
| schestowitz | IBM I mean | Apr 06 12:25 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/highscale/statuses/55638264094269440 | Apr 06 12:25 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @HighScale: #Novellโs (#Microsoft-Funded) Anti-#Ubuntu #Propaganda http://techrights.org/2011/03/01/banshee-vs-canonical/ | Apr 06 12:25 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | -> Title: Novellโs (Microsoft-Funded) Anti-Ubuntu Propaganda | Techrights .::. Size~: 113.37 KB | Apr 06 12:25 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/qu1j0t3/statuses/55639161100713984 | Apr 06 12:26 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @qu1j0t3: MT @petrvanblokland @iA Monbiot: Here 100% right: http://bit.ly/fGsDDd #astroturfing #microsoft #war #fraud #greed cc @schestowitz | Apr 06 12:26 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | -> Title: The need to protect the internet from 'astroturfing' grows ever more urgent | George Monbiot | Environment | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 262.53 KB | Apr 06 12:26 |
| schestowitz | Yeah.. | Apr 06 12:27 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/verofakto/statuses/55681563437957120 | Apr 06 12:27 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @verofakto: @schestowitz No, we'll just call you IBM Roy #shill /cc @FOSSpatents | Apr 06 12:27 |
| schestowitz | What a disgusting stalker/shilll... some .NET dev | Apr 06 12:27 |
| schestowitz | Or just a bully/mercenary | Apr 06 12:27 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/55682534587121664 | Apr 06 12:28 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @FOSSpatents: @verofakto In terms of focus, @schestowitz is Microsoft Roy more than any other Roy on this planet. | Apr 06 12:28 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/verofakto/statuses/55685178907041792 | Apr 06 12:28 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @verofakto: @schestowitz just called the #FFII "cowards" on his #IBM-sponsored blog. Funny when the zealots are at each other's throats #ideologyfail | Apr 06 12:28 |
| schestowitz | BS | Apr 06 12:28 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/verofakto/statuses/55698384048234496 | Apr 06 12:28 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @verofakto: @FOSSpatents ROFLMAO, yes, if we use #BoycottBoy's burden of proof, that means he's employed by #IBM hahahahahaha | Apr 06 12:28 |
| schestowitz | Yuck | Apr 06 12:28 |
| schestowitz | What a rpick | Apr 06 12:28 |
| qu1j0t3 | Followed by @darrenlund and @merlyn. | Apr 06 12:29 |
| qu1j0t3 | seems he's probably a big name | Apr 06 12:29 |
| schestowitz | http://bit.ly/gyz9gs | Apr 06 12:31 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Twitter / verofakto: @FOSSpatents @schestowitz ... .::. Size~: 13.24 KB | Apr 06 12:31 |
| schestowitz | LMAO | Apr 06 12:31 |
| qu1j0t3 | QueenRania Rania Al Abdullah | Apr 06 12:36 |
| qu1j0t3 | A mum and a wife with a really cool day job... | Apr 06 12:36 |
| *qu1j0t3 vomits | Apr 06 12:36 | |
| qu1j0t3 | Eric Schmidt follows her. | Apr 06 12:36 |
| schestowitz | Gates uses her | Apr 06 12:41 |
| schestowitz | both are pr whores | Apr 06 12:42 |
| qu1j0t3 | yes. | Apr 06 12:44 |
| qu1j0t3 | Huffington syndicates her. | Apr 06 12:44 |
| qu1j0t3 | ...and so the circle is complete... | Apr 06 12:45 |
| qu1j0t3 | I'm just a "mum and a wife". | Apr 06 12:45 |
| qu1j0t3 | couldn't possibly be threatening | Apr 06 12:45 |
| qu1j0t3 | perhaps the most blatant use of the trojan horse "just a little woman" trick yet | Apr 06 12:45 |
| schestowitz | yeah | Apr 06 12:48 |
| schestowitz | The king uses her | Apr 06 12:48 |
| schestowitz | Makes more than half the population in Jordan (women) feel OK | Apr 06 12:48 |
| schestowitz | Represented | Apr 06 12:48 |
| schestowitz | As mothers and wives | Apr 06 12:48 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: Gnome 3 is out | Apr 06 13:10 |
| qu1j0t3 | https://twitter.com/#!/GaeMar01/status/55725301560389633 | Apr 06 13:16 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @GaeMar01: RT @citypolwire: Is #TonyBlair going to be named chairman of a major UK company tomorrow? Or have I been fed duff info ... | Apr 06 13:16 |
| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: we're launching soon | Apr 06 13:18 |
| schestowitz | Are you still willing to help if we get Canadian interest? | Apr 06 13:19 |
| schestowitz | I understand you may take full-time in TO. | Apr 06 13:19 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 06 13:19 |
| schestowitz | > I was just looking at some of your website and the Schestowitz | Apr 06 13:19 |
| schestowitz | > scientific freedom website. | Apr 06 13:19 |
| schestowitz | > Could tell you are an open software enthusiast. I also read the Mission | Apr 06 13:19 |
| schestowitz | > Statement you the link you gave me. | Apr 06 13:19 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 06 13:19 |
| schestowitz | > I am interested in taking part, and would be delighted if you considered | Apr 06 13:19 |
| schestowitz | > including me in the team. | Apr 06 13:19 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 06 13:19 |
| schestowitz | > if there are any information you want me to know about, please let me know. | Apr 06 13:19 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 06 13:19 |
| schestowitz | > Joshua | Apr 06 13:19 |
| schestowitz | Hi Joshua, | Apr 06 13:19 |
| schestowitz | Thanks for getting in touch. The site is under construction in a sense (I built it content-wise while on the train) and it's one among 6 that I have. Some of them are large enough to leave my pages well out of date, as old as 7 to 10 years (my CV for example). I've contacted my friend Mike who will contact Henry, a Linux/DB sysadmin. I have not formally announced this yet, nor have I 'advertised' it in any way (I don't fancy | Apr 06 13:19 |
| schestowitz | the term advertised). Currently, to promote scientific freedom I have run http://techrights.org , reaching millions of people there. But there are also accounts like http://identi.ca/schestowitz http://twitter.com/schestowitz http://digg.com/schestowitz -- places where we can get the word out. It is essential that we gain clients in order to assure income by deployment. I ought to meet my friend Neil this week, as he knows | Apr 06 13:19 |
| schestowitz | people who might need contracts. | Apr 06 13:19 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 06 13:19 |
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| schestowitz | "Thanks so much. Tomorrow I resume coding and I will tell you how it blends in ASAP." | Apr 06 13:32 |
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| schestowitz | "Matt Gilman (@iiimadmaniii) is now following your tweets (@schestowitz) on Twitter. " | Apr 06 16:58 |
| schestowitz | "Bio I'm going to destroy a girl's life, and straighten out my credit at the same time. She'll see and know first hand soon. " | Apr 06 16:58 |
| schestowitz | Huh | Apr 06 16:58 |
| qu1j0t3 | ...! | Apr 06 17:00 |
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| MinceR | http://failblog.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/07f8bd92-382b-45cd-8ad1-e028e0a850f0.jpg | Apr 07 02:41 |
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| schestowitz | on the pew | Apr 07 03:21 |
| schestowitz | "IT IS easy to spot patterns. People who promote <a href="http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Mono" title="Mono">Mono</a> and <a href="http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Moonlight" title="Moonlight">Moonlight</a> do not usually like GNU/Linux; they like or even love Microsoft software and these projects are ways of spreading this love to more platforms. For the past three years we carried on showing that those who care the | Apr 07 06:38 |
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| schestowitz | most about Mono and Moonlight releases are Microsoft journalists, not Linux-focused reported. It speaks volumes." | Apr 07 06:38 |
| schestowitz | Time to write a rebuttal to it all... | Apr 07 06:38 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/TummyCustard/status/55982639752036352 | Apr 07 07:07 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @TummyCustard: @schestowitz @explodingwalrus Hah, an age old lesson. You cozy up with Microsoft, you're dead within 5 years. | Apr 07 07:07 |
| qu1j0t3 | who are you writing about? SCO comes to mind. | Apr 07 07:09 |
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| sebsebseb | hi | Apr 07 10:16 |
| qu1j0t3 | hi | Apr 07 11:16 |
| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: just changes my profile in twitter to say "Schestowitz specialises in scientific computing that puts users in control of the entire software stack" | Apr 07 13:33 |
| schestowitz | I might turn that account into something more specific | Apr 07 13:34 |
| schestowitz | Now just broad politics+linux+etc | Apr 07 13:34 |
| schestowitz | Today I have over here for 3 hours a person who wants to start the business with us | Apr 07 13:34 |
| schestowitz | [let me know when you read this] | Apr 07 13:34 |
| qu1j0t3 | good slogan. | Apr 07 13:49 |
| qu1j0t3 | :) | Apr 07 13:49 |
| schestowitz | I didn't take much time to think of it, just typed it | Apr 07 13:52 |
| schestowitz | But the discussion went for a long time and we plan to go live some time soon | Apr 07 13:52 |
| schestowitz | He lives close, so it's making the basis a bit stronger | Apr 07 13:53 |
| schestowitz | What I was thinking is, I will approach matlab users | Apr 07 13:53 |
| schestowitz | Many are likely to be in America and I can't do it all via ssh, so good to have Quadrescence and you there | Apr 07 13:53 |
| schestowitz | [assuming it takes off OK, in the sense that we can attract contract work] | Apr 07 13:54 |
| Quadrescence | schestowitz: Do you have a British accent? | Apr 07 13:54 |
| schestowitz | No | Apr 07 13:54 |
| qu1j0t3 | lolwut | Apr 07 13:54 |
| Quadrescence | Do you have a non-American accent? | Apr 07 13:54 |
| qu1j0t3 | Quadrescence: of course he does. | Apr 07 13:54 |
| schestowitz | non-American | Apr 07 13:54 |
| schestowitz | aka "them" | Apr 07 13:55 |
| schestowitz | :-) | Apr 07 13:55 |
| qu1j0t3 | The Others. | Apr 07 13:55 |
| schestowitz | the brutes | Apr 07 13:55 |
| schestowitz | Quadrescence: people here usually think I'm from America | Apr 07 13:56 |
| schestowitz | But anyhoo... | Apr 07 13:56 |
| schestowitz | So my plan from December is becoming concrete | Apr 07 13:56 |
| schestowitz | I now have 3 points of contact from which to network | Apr 07 13:56 |
| schestowitz | I used to have 1 | Apr 07 13:56 |
| schestowitz | But until the draft site is clearer and more professional-looking we can start making contact (premature would blow off chances) | Apr 07 13:57 |
| Quadrescence | schestowitz: Have you written up a prospective business plan at all? | Apr 07 14:03 |
| schestowitz | Not yet | Apr 07 14:07 |
| schestowitz | That needs to be done too | Apr 07 14:07 |
| schestowitz | But I don't need it for VC, I don't think the nature of this requires much a priori work and development like when you sell s/w as opposes to man hours | Apr 07 14:08 |
| Quadrescence | schestowitz: Do you think you'd have a VC? | Apr 07 14:10 |
| qu1j0t3 | VC is crazytown. | Apr 07 14:12 |
| Quadrescence | Angel investors are the best investors, right qu1j0t3 | Apr 07 14:12 |
| Quadrescence | qu1j0t3, you are my angel investor | Apr 07 14:12 |
| qu1j0t3 | Quadrescence: LOL | Apr 07 14:12 |
| qu1j0t3 | Quadrescence: i'd need to see a stock certificate first | Apr 07 14:13 |
| qubitar | roy wouldn't use vc | Apr 07 14:13 |
| qubitar | it has capitalist in its name | Apr 07 14:13 |
| Quadrescence | haha | Apr 07 14:13 |
| qu1j0t3 | it's also crazytown. | Apr 07 14:13 |
| qu1j0t3 | roy wouldn't use it because it's nuts. | Apr 07 14:13 |
| Quadrescence | Well he said "bla bla doesn't need it for VC", so I figured he'd maybe use it. | Apr 07 14:13 |
| qubitar | unless hes planning on using the first venture communist | Apr 07 14:13 |
| schestowitz | I could use VC | Apr 07 14:18 |
| schestowitz | If it became needed, but it's crazy early to mention this at this point | Apr 07 14:18 |
| schestowitz | Because it's better to develop a base to work with and start with | Apr 07 14:18 |
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| *schestowitz is now known as i | Apr 07 15:48 | |
| *i is now known as schestowitz | Apr 07 15:48 | |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: hmm http://identi.ca/conversation/68338024 | Apr 07 16:25 |
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| sebsebseb | schestowitz: well that's ashame to read that, and he seemed to have been looking forward to trying the Beta | Apr 07 16:28 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: mandriva had a bug | Apr 07 16:28 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: uhmm? | Apr 07 16:28 |
| schestowitz | They released a fix with boot changs | Apr 07 16:28 |
| schestowitz | !google mandriva corrigenda | Apr 07 16:29 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | [1] - The Games Geeks Play! โ LINUX For You Magazine | http://www.linuxforu.com/news/the-games-geeks-play/ | Apr 07 16:29 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | [2] - C/C++ query(nested struct) in C++ | http://www.eggheadcafe.com/software/aspnet/36192062/cc-querynested-struct.aspx | Apr 07 16:29 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | [3] - Linux Standard Base - Viquipรจdia | http://ca.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_Standard_Base | Apr 07 16:29 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | [4] - amaroK 2.0.1.1: Excellent audio player with covers and smart lists ... | http://www.linuxinet.com/free-linux-software/amarok-2-0-1-1-excellent-audio-player-covers-and-smart-lists.html | Apr 07 16:29 |
| schestowitz | !google mandriva errata | Apr 07 16:29 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | [1] - Releases/Mandriva/Errata - Mandriva Community Wiki | http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Releases/Mandriva/Errata | Apr 07 16:29 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | [2] - 2008.1 Errata - Mandriva Community Wiki | http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/2008.1_Errata | Apr 07 16:29 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | [3] - 2010.0 Errata - Mandriva Community Wiki | http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/2010.0_Errata | Apr 07 16:29 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | [4] - 2009.0 Errata - Mandriva Community Wiki | http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/2009.0_Errata | Apr 07 16:29 |
| schestowitz | in 2011 too | Apr 07 16:29 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: can you provide a proper link for a install is slow bug being fixed for Mandriva 2011? | Apr 07 16:35 |
| schestowitz | no | Apr 07 16:36 |
| schestowitz | it would not boot | Apr 07 16:36 |
| schestowitz | check out mandriva official blog about 2 weeks ago | Apr 07 16:36 |
| schestowitz | http://www.ubuntu-user.com/Online/Blogs/Amber-Graner-You-in-Ubuntu/Where-are-Ubuntu-servers-being-used | Apr 07 16:37 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Where are Ubuntu servers being used? / Amber Graner: You in Ubuntu / Blogs / Online / Home - Ubuntu User .::. Size~: 90.69 KB | Apr 07 16:37 |
| schestowitz | I deployed a couple in the uk last month | Apr 07 16:37 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: :( | Apr 07 16:37 |
| schestowitz | oh, gimme a break :-) | Apr 07 16:38 |
| schestowitz | Your distro doesn't target servers | Apr 07 16:38 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: my distro is a few | Apr 07 16:47 |
| sebsebseb | also your meant to use Debian or CentOS really for servers, not Ubuntu | Apr 07 16:47 |
| schestowitz | gn | Apr 07 16:48 |
| Ender2070 | why would anyone want to touch mandriva | Apr 07 17:11 |
| Ender2070 | I say that due to mageia | Apr 07 17:12 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2011/apr/07/schools-school-funding?CMP=twt_gu | Apr 07 17:25 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Cathie Black and the privatisation of education | Daniel Denvir | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 131.44 KB | Apr 07 17:25 |
| qu1j0t3 | Quadrescence: ^^ that's worth reading, a good summary of how Obama administration is implementing right wing extremist plans to destroy public education. Gates is a big part ofthis effort. | Apr 07 17:28 |
| sebsebseb | qu1j0t3: turns out they may not do Unity by default in Ubuntu 11.04 | Apr 07 17:29 |
| qu1j0t3 | what's Unity again? | Apr 07 17:30 |
| *qu1j0t3 doesn't use Ubuntu | Apr 07 17:30 | |
| sebsebseb | their own interface | Apr 07 17:31 |
| sebsebseb | instead of Gnome Shell | Apr 07 17:31 |
| qu1j0t3 | what's Gnome Shell? | Apr 07 17:31 |
| qu1j0t3 | the Gnome desktop? | Apr 07 17:32 |
| sebsebseb | the new interface for Gnome 3 | Apr 07 17:32 |
| qu1j0t3 | oh. | Apr 07 17:32 |
| qu1j0t3 | well i'm kind of interested in trying Gnome 3... | Apr 07 17:32 |
| sebsebseb | you can see videos here and so on | Apr 07 17:32 |
| sebsebseb | http://gnome3.org | Apr 07 17:32 |
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| qu1j0t3 | i dont really do videos. too old | Apr 07 17:32 |
| sebsebseb | download a OpenSuse or Fedora test CD even | Apr 07 17:32 |
| sebsebseb | uh how old are you? | Apr 07 17:33 |
| qu1j0t3 | 41! | Apr 07 17:33 |
| qu1j0t3 | http://www.malcolmcoles.co.uk/blog/demographic-youtube-uk/ | Apr 07 17:35 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: The demographic of Youtubeโs UK audience ยป Malcolm Coles .::. Size~: 37.86 KB | Apr 07 17:35 |
| Quadrescence | qu1j0t3: every day I get more angry @ the gov | Apr 07 17:40 |
| qu1j0t3 | Quadrescence: & the ppl behind them i hope | Apr 07 17:52 |
| Quadrescence | qu1j0t3: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2011/04/anonymous-goes-after-sony-makes-it-personal-very-personal.ars | Apr 07 17:57 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Anonymous goes after Sony, makes it personal... very personal .::. Size~: 36.33 KB | Apr 07 17:57 |
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| schestowitz | [01:29] <qu1j0t3> Quadrescence: ^^ that's worth reading, a good summary of how Obama administration is implementing right wing extremist plans to destroy public education. Gates is a big part ofthis effort. | Apr 07 23:08 |
| schestowitz | Part of the obscene view that if *Everything* is turned into business mode, then it improves | Apr 07 23:08 |
| schestowitz | > I sent this riddle to 6 people who I consider very intelligent. The only one | Apr 07 23:11 |
| schestowitz | > to accept the challenge and send back the right answer was my 18-year-old | Apr 07 23:11 |
| schestowitz | > grandson Steven (Julie's son). He says it took him about 10 minutes. | Apr 07 23:11 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 07 23:11 |
| schestowitz | > Do you consider the level of difficulty for most people...(do not include | Apr 07 23:11 |
| schestowitz | > yourself) in solving this riddle low, medium or high? | Apr 07 23:11 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 07 23:11 |
| schestowitz | > O.K. Here it is: | Apr 07 23:11 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 07 23:11 |
| schestowitz | > "How old are you?" | Apr 07 23:11 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 07 23:11 |
| schestowitz | > "Well I forget exactly, but I do remember that my brother is two years older | Apr 07 23:11 |
| schestowitz | > than I,. my sister is four years older than he, and . um, mother was twenty | Apr 07 23:11 |
| schestowitz | > eight when I was born. . Oh, and my sister recently said that the average | Apr 07 23:11 |
| schestowitz | > age of the four of us is seventy-four." | Apr 07 23:11 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 07 23:11 |
| schestowitz | > How old was he? | Apr 07 23:11 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 07 23:11 |
| schestowitz | > I peeked at the answer and then was easily able to work out the ages for all | Apr 07 23:11 |
| schestowitz | > and they did average 74. However, I did not actually solve the riddle. | Apr 07 23:11 |
| schestowitz | Oh, I don't want to even get started as I might obsess over it and I really need to start coding heavily this weekend. | Apr 07 23:14 |
| MinceR | 65y | Apr 07 23:20 |
| schestowitz | :-) | Apr 07 23:37 |
| MinceR | http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lgi4mv2rgX1qg4oi0o1_400.jpg | Apr 08 01:52 |
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| schestowitz | :-D | Apr 08 02:30 |
| schestowitz | Some adults have imaginary friends who human like them | Apr 08 02:31 |
| schestowitz | Just had a chat about that the other day.. | Apr 08 02:31 |
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| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: yes, it's related. but there seem to be a few much more sinister things behind this as well. | Apr 08 05:21 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: even if you look at that ideology ALONE, it | Apr 08 05:22 |
| oiaohm | qu1j0t3: Just got in what topic. | Apr 08 05:22 |
| qu1j0t3 | oiaohm: http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2011/apr/07/schools-school-funding | Apr 08 05:22 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Cathie Black and the privatisation of education | Daniel Denvir | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 155.52 KB | Apr 08 05:22 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz | Part of the obscene view that if *Everything* is turned into business mode, then it improves | Apr 08 05:23 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: ...even if you look at that ideology ALONE, it is denied that the change is ideological | Apr 08 05:24 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: I think we are dealing with a different species entirely | Apr 08 05:24 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: of human. We have these countless examples of straight-face lunatics -- Rhee, H.Clinton, all the way thru Obama, Blair, Harper, and thousands of others | Apr 08 05:25 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: they act as if programmed ... | Apr 08 05:25 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: not 'born'. | Apr 08 05:26 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: maybe 'V' is actually a documentary.... | Apr 08 05:26 |
| oiaohm | qu1j0t3: Really lets be trueful most countrys don't most of the population with a good education | Apr 08 05:29 |
| oiaohm | Since it would make idiot getting into goverment job harder. | Apr 08 05:30 |
| qu1j0t3 | of course. that's part of it. | Apr 08 05:30 |
| qu1j0t3 | it's also about creating a slave class | Apr 08 05:30 |
| qu1j0t3 | or perpetuating one, more accurately | Apr 08 05:30 |
| oiaohm | USA eductation system already fails students. | Apr 08 05:31 |
| oiaohm | So really cannot be made much worse. | Apr 08 05:31 |
| qu1j0t3 | oh, it can :) | Apr 08 05:31 |
| qu1j0t3 | wrecking it is an active project for the current administration. | Apr 08 05:31 |
| qu1j0t3 | Arne Duncan was hired to do this | Apr 08 05:31 |
| qu1j0t3 | Bill Gates is pushing the project along | Apr 08 05:32 |
| oiaohm | Australia has issues in its education systems. | Apr 08 05:32 |
| qu1j0t3 | same agenda is being applied in UK, Australia | Apr 08 05:32 |
| qu1j0t3 | Canada will be hit as well, though it's not much in the news yet | Apr 08 05:32 |
| oiaohm | Not really qu1j0t3 | Apr 08 05:32 |
| qu1j0t3 | definitely. | Apr 08 05:32 |
| qu1j0t3 | nobody escapes, oiaohm | Apr 08 05:32 |
| qu1j0t3 | did you miss the protests in the UK ? | Apr 08 05:32 |
| oiaohm | Australia kinda different. | Apr 08 05:32 |
| qu1j0t3 | oiaohm: it is? | Apr 08 05:32 |
| qu1j0t3 | i should visit some time. | Apr 08 05:32 |
| qu1j0t3 | must be amazing to have escaped this crap. | Apr 08 05:33 |
| qu1j0t3 | oiaohm: at least you guys stayed well out of the Iraq war. well done! | Apr 08 05:33 |
| oiaohm | Our schools have required testing. Any school who students are not passing as well as the rest can expect inspentions. | Apr 08 05:33 |
| qu1j0t3 | oiaohm: read the article. | Apr 08 05:33 |
| qu1j0t3 | oiaohm: that's part of the agenda... | Apr 08 05:34 |
| oiaohm | Funny part private schools were doing better. So they have lost funding here. qu1j0t3 | Apr 08 05:34 |
| qu1j0t3 | to the extent that slave class is wanted, the agenda will be applied. | Apr 08 05:36 |
| qu1j0t3 | simple cause and effect | Apr 08 05:36 |
| qu1j0t3 | Howard is gone, he was the most effective agent | Apr 08 05:36 |
| qu1j0t3 | he'll be back, in some other guise | Apr 08 05:36 |
| oiaohm | Iraq war has been profitable to australia. qu1j0t3 | Apr 08 05:36 |
| qu1j0t3 | that's great | Apr 08 05:37 |
| qu1j0t3 | i'm pretty thrilled about that | Apr 08 05:37 |
| qu1j0t3 | in fact i'm really annoyed Canada wasn't all over that. bunch of poofters. | Apr 08 05:37 |
| oiaohm | Where do the usa aircraft taking supplies to iraq fuel up. qu1j0t3 | Apr 08 05:37 |
| qu1j0t3 | oiaohm: the relationship between US military and Australia isn't exactly new to me :) | Apr 08 05:37 |
| oiaohm | Australian and US militrary don't exacty get along. Mostly because war and war games is when Australia nicks supplies. | Apr 08 05:38 |
| qu1j0t3 | those wacky kids. | Apr 08 05:39 |
| oiaohm | Best nick was a full USA warship in a wargame. qu1j0t3 | Apr 08 05:39 |
| qu1j0t3 | thankfully, there's nothing serious at stake here. those inflatable play bombs never hurt anyone. rumours of fatalities are a communist plot. | Apr 08 05:39 |
| oiaohm | by the time the USA located the ship had lost over 2 thirds of its mass. | Apr 08 05:40 |
| oiaohm | Another 24 hours it would have been cut up for scrap metal and disappeared for good. | Apr 08 05:40 |
| qu1j0t3 | http://mobile.slashdot.org/story/11/04/08/010235/Nokia-Confirms-Symbian-Is-No-Longer-Open-Source | Apr 08 05:40 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Nokia Confirms Symbian Is No Longer Open Source - Slashdot .::. Size~: 131.57 KB | Apr 08 05:40 |
| oiaohm | War games with Australia are quite a serous game. qu1j0t3 | Apr 08 05:40 |
| oiaohm | Usa has lost a few aircraft and other items in war games as well. Set down on non approve airports and the aircraft is ours. No take backs. | Apr 08 05:41 |
| oiaohm | qu1j0t3: Most people don't know that in iraq for damaged armor there is a race between Australian and usa recovery teams. Any the australian forces get to first become ours. | Apr 08 05:43 |
| qu1j0t3 | how amusing | Apr 08 05:43 |
| oiaohm | Note we took almost no armor over there. | Apr 08 05:43 |
| oiaohm | All the armored units the Australian forces are using over there now have been aquired mostly from the USA. qu1j0t3 | Apr 08 05:44 |
| oiaohm | Yes Australia offering to assist you in battle. USA should have been asking themselves what Australia was going to take in payment. | Apr 08 05:45 |
| oiaohm | Our near by island nations have nothing to worry about. Everything they have in weapons is worse than ours so not worth taking. | Apr 08 05:46 |
| oiaohm | qu1j0t3: somethings were not amusing. Australian forces got sent over batchs of fake flack jackets. That looked almost exactly like the usa version. So you can guess what the Australian soliders were doing. | Apr 08 05:48 |
| oiaohm | qu1j0t3: Australia is partly to blame for the usa high lose of life in particular point of the iraq war. | Apr 08 05:48 |
| oiaohm | qu1j0t3: but since then USA has been equiping Australian soliders with them. | Apr 08 05:49 |
| oiaohm | And of course a percentage are going straight home to Australia basically no used. | Apr 08 05:49 |
| oiaohm | qu1j0t3: Our education system does cover a lot of history. Including some very interesting battles where australian forces had to be sneaky. | Apr 08 05:56 |
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| schestowitz | " | Apr 08 09:28 |
| schestowitz | #Following your post a few days ago: gunning-down-dissidence_ES. | Apr 08 09:28 |
| schestowitz | #Brad had the gentleness to allow us to publish his 2 | Apr 08 09:28 |
| schestowitz | political-activists-need-linux-1-and-2_ES on our Spanish Portal | Apr 08 09:28 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 08 09:28 |
| schestowitz | Just got some interetsing info from s. america | Apr 08 09:28 |
| schestowitz | Oops. I published part of the comments too, excluding Brad's part. | Apr 08 09:37 |
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| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/70684435 https://identi.ca/notice/70684479 | Apr 08 09:53 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Friday, 08-Apr-11 16:51:34 UTC - Identi.ca: @harvalah exactly | Apr 08 09:53 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Friday, 08-Apr-11 16:53:11 UTC - Identi.ca: @goforbes28 thanks :-) I enjoyed that. Will yuo join us at IRC? | Apr 08 09:53 |
| schestowitz | Hmmm.. | Apr 08 09:53 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/70683618 | Apr 08 09:54 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @G. Forbes (goforbes28)'s status on Friday, 08-Apr-11 16:33:24 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz It's Friday :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLAMhTorPCk | Apr 08 09:54 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | -> Title: YouTube - Stephen Colbert & The Roots - Friday [HD] on Late Night with Jimmy Fallon .::. Size~: 135.68 KB | Apr 08 09:54 |
| schestowitz | I think something pressured him not to be involved with the site | Apr 08 09:54 |
| qubitar | pressured me? | Apr 08 10:08 |
| *qu1j0t3 blinks | Apr 08 10:08 | |
| qubitar | or who | Apr 08 10:10 |
| schestowitz | Not you | Apr 08 10:11 |
| qu1j0t3 | nor me! but wouldn't it be exciting | Apr 08 10:11 |
| qu1j0t3 | phone call. heavy breathing. What you are doing with Tech Rights. It must stop. You understand. We know where you live. | Apr 08 10:11 |
| schestowitz | I got something wrong about Groklaw this week | Apr 08 10:12 |
| schestowitz | I need to clarify this now | Apr 08 10:12 |
| schestowitz | "I have been thinking about it a lot today. I tried to think back in time and recall where I had picked that claim and I am pretty certain that someone commenting in Groklaw said something along the lines of, "PJ used to defend patents, then she changed her mind." Suffice to say, not any comment in Groklaw is amicable and accurate. I will need to set the record straight in a dedicated post clarifying this point. Previously, I | Apr 08 10:12 |
| schestowitz | also mentioned Groklaw's apathy towards Apple's abuses and lack of criticism of Google; this was done politely and constructively at the time, as an attempt to open up a dialogue. I will tackle these points soon." | Apr 08 10:12 |
| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: no | Apr 08 10:13 |
| schestowitz | It's more like the pro-.NET sloggers try to incite him against the site | Apr 08 10:13 |
| schestowitz | They did this in twitter too | Apr 08 10:13 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: there's a line from bender which had me think it was a troll | Apr 08 14:56 |
| MinceR | ic | Apr 08 14:56 |
| schestowitz | See, the trolls sometimes try to claim I'm not a programmer | Apr 08 14:57 |
| schestowitz | And then they try to test me | Apr 08 14:57 |
| schestowitz | [22:42] <Bender> i wouldn't expect a warm welcome, guess i was mistaken | Apr 08 14:57 |
| schestowitz | [22:44] <Bender> Roy, i know it might not be a good question and a bit off topic here but i was wondering | Apr 08 14:58 |
| schestowitz | [22:45] <Bender> and since you are a programmer... :) | Apr 08 14:58 |
| MinceR | ic | Apr 08 14:58 |
| schestowitz | To discredit what I write about mono and oop | Apr 08 14:59 |
| schestowitz | but if bender's was staged, then he did a spectacular job | Apr 08 14:59 |
| schestowitz | I'm too suspicious though | Apr 08 15:02 |
| schestowitz | It's just that a new user comes to the channel for first time and asks offtopic question, directs it at me | Apr 08 15:03 |
| schestowitz | He could just google for answer | Apr 08 15:03 |
| schestowitz | "Don't listen to this mono piece, the author is _____" | Apr 08 15:03 |
| schestowitz | Had it done by the monotologists before | Apr 08 15:03 |
| MinceR | :> | Apr 08 15:04 |
| MinceR | should i leave it to you next time? :> | Apr 08 15:04 |
| schestowitz | I wasn't paying attention to desktop 4 | Apr 08 15:05 |
| schestowitz | But anyway, it's likely innocent | Apr 08 15:05 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: https://twitter.com/#!/BigThingist/status/56552872787185664 | Apr 08 20:08 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @BigThingist: I stopped READING numerical computing books, specially those that include libraries. License minefields #numrecipes #wildtangent | Apr 08 20:08 |
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| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/70698719 | Apr 08 23:07 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @Dagan McGregor (ardrigh)'s status on Friday, 08-Apr-11 23:38:00 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz That's a bit harsh. You think American drivers are that great? Toyota has a great safety record, drivers dont | Apr 08 23:07 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/70701048 | Apr 08 23:07 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @satipera (satipera)'s status on Saturday, 09-Apr-11 00:54:38 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz This is a $12m dollars contract, that is almost Redmond mouse mat money. I wonder how important this is. | Apr 08 23:07 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/70701102 | Apr 08 23:08 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @satipera (satipera)'s status on Saturday, 09-Apr-11 00:57:11 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz, I was reading somewhere that car infotainment looked like being built around smart phones. | Apr 08 23:08 |
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