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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Together again for a special remix project: @ccMixterMusic and @lessig "Strike The Root" http://goo.gl/LnPyfApr 09 00:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: ccMixter - Strike the Root-A Larry Lessig Remix Event .::. Size~: 26.49 KBApr 09 00:02
schestowitzDaemonFC: not floss leader?Apr 09 00:03
DaemonFC:PApr 09 00:04
DaemonFCit'a a business productApr 09 00:04
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schestowitzMinceR: that's not trueApr 09 00:05
schestowitzDaemonFC is not really an a-holeApr 09 00:05
schestowitz:-pApr 09 00:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Pensioner in Georgia cuts Armenia off from internet http://ur1.ca/3t8vf Obama admin. pushes to have same power (Internet kill switch)Apr 09 00:05
DaemonFC:/Apr 09 00:05
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BBC News - Pensioner in Georgia cuts Armenia off from internet .::. Size~: 53.6 KBApr 09 00:05
schestowitzDaemonFC: joke. He didn't say anythingApr 09 00:06
DaemonFCI figuredApr 09 00:06
DaemonFCMinceR is very cooperativeApr 09 00:06
DaemonFCand unifiedApr 09 00:06
schestowitzlike MicrosoftApr 09 00:06
DaemonFCB-)Apr 09 00:06
*MinceR switches to deathmatchApr 09 00:06
schestowitz!google florian patents microsoft cooperativeApr 09 00:06
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - FOSS Patents: Microsoft's use of patents | http://fosspatents.blogspot.com/2010/08/microsofts-use-of-patents.htmlApr 09 00:06
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - FOSS Patents: Oracle sues Google, says Android infringes seven ... | http://fosspatents.blogspot.com/2010/08/oracle-sues-google-says-android.htmlApr 09 00:06
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - The Difference Between Florian Müller and Hugo Lueders (Pro ... | http://techrights.org/2010/09/13/lobbyists-as-pretenders/Apr 09 00:06
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Florian 'Floyd' Mueller | http://floydmueller.com/resume/cv_florian_floyd_mueller.pdfApr 09 00:06
DaemonFCGNOME Shell is interesting but it has problemsApr 09 00:07
DaemonFCmostly quirksApr 09 00:07
schestowitz!google youtube finish quake 3 in minutesApr 09 00:07
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - YouTube - Quake2 Finished in 21 minutes #Part 1 | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DOP5Sf964it8Apr 09 00:07
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - YouTube - Quake 2 and 3 for Droid | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3Dq9Xaz7ECI4MApr 09 00:07
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - YouTube - Quake 3 Defrag - The Prometheus Syndrome - Part 1 of 4 | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DvSFrbG6ROZ4Apr 09 00:07
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Counter strike in nokia n900 (urban terror ) - Page 5 - maemo.org ... | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php%3Fp%3D906573Apr 09 00:07
DaemonFCnot having a way to change your theme without dconf-editor is badApr 09 00:07
DaemonFCB-)Apr 09 00:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] BT escapes prosecution over web snooping http://ur1.ca/3t6m4 because #uk govt. loves surveillance, colludes with it. #btApr 09 00:12
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BBC News - BT escapes prosecution over web snooping .::. Size~: 56.27 KBApr 09 00:12
_Goblinand BBC escaped prosecution over its Botnet....Apr 09 00:13
DaemonFCBT is schestowitz's BT buddyApr 09 00:13
DaemonFC:PApr 09 00:13
_Goblinbirds of a feather and all that.Apr 09 00:13
DaemonFCnoApr 09 00:13
DaemonFCmore like....Apr 09 00:13
DaemonFCone hand washes the otherApr 09 00:13
DaemonFC:)Apr 09 00:13
DaemonFCif a company commits a crime on behalf of the government, do you really think charges will be pressed if they're outed?Apr 09 00:14
DaemonFCat worst, the government will create some toothless commission to "look into it" to placate the publicApr 09 00:14
DaemonFC:)Apr 09 00:15
_Goblinits a very true statement...Apr 09 00:15
_GoblinI wonder though if BT had been prosecuted, who actually would have faced the criminal charge?Apr 09 00:16
_GoblinI'm a shareholder.......Apr 09 00:16
_Goblindo I need to worry ? ;)Apr 09 00:16
DaemonFCdoubt itApr 09 00:17
_Goblinlol...i suppose not....Apr 09 00:17
DaemonFCthey'd only be prosecuted if the people were really pissedApr 09 00:17
DaemonFCand then they'd get a token fine or somethingApr 09 00:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Our [sadly soon to be ex-]CTO @nyergler on what open learning can learn from the open web http://goo.gl/R1WeI #OERApr 09 00:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Learning from the Web for Learning on the Web – yergler.net .::. Size~: 32.31 KBApr 09 00:17
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_GoblinIve only got £400 of shares....Apr 09 00:17
DaemonFCthen the government slips it back to them under the table in next year's tax codeApr 09 00:17
DaemonFCsee, I'm not negative, I'm an AmericanApr 09 00:17
_Goblin(btw I was joking regarding the worrying of me being a shareholder...just for clarity)Apr 09 00:18
DaemonFCsome of us understand these thingsApr 09 00:18
DaemonFC:)Apr 09 00:18
_GoblinI love the American people.Apr 09 00:18
_Goblinvery friendly, generous people.Apr 09 00:18
_Goblinor the ones I have met anywayApr 09 00:18
DaemonFCthe government is running amok thoughApr 09 00:19
DaemonFC:PApr 09 00:19
DaemonFCgovernments tend to organize themselves in cellsApr 09 00:19
DaemonFCthat way nobody is responsibleApr 09 00:20
DaemonFC:)Apr 09 00:20
DaemonFC"I had no idea they were doing that!"Apr 09 00:20
DaemonFC:)Apr 09 00:20
DaemonFCyou notice in each year's budget, they dish out the FBI and CIA and NSA huge "discretionary budgets"Apr 09 00:21
DaemonFCmeaning, we don't even want to know what you're spending this onApr 09 00:21
DaemonFCsurprise us!Apr 09 00:21
DaemonFC:)Apr 09 00:21
_Goblinunfortunately its not often a pleasant surprise.Apr 09 00:22
_Goblinhave you seen the latest tot about having a browser based plugin of sorts made compulsary in order to prevent certain sites being viewed (piracy)Apr 09 00:23
DaemonFCObama: Secret overseas prisons? I had no idea. (gets on the phone to the CIA) Hi guys! Hide what you're doing better. Oh the kids? great! We're settling in here just fine. Yes, we got the fruit basket. Byesies!Apr 09 00:23
DaemonFCB-)Apr 09 00:23
_Goblinits being talked about in europe at the moment.....Apr 09 00:23
_Goblinthey seem to think that this will work....it seems they haven't yet worked out what open source is....Apr 09 00:23
DaemonFCif Europe, Russia, and China cave in and go along with US style patent and copyright law, then it hurts Americans tooApr 09 00:24
_GoblinI think the battle is lost however.....Apr 09 00:24
DaemonFCbecause there will be nowhere I can grab this stuff from (like MP3 encoders and DVD decryption libraries, etc)Apr 09 00:24
_GoblinI think the "pro-piracy" "demands" would ultimately lead into less freedom.Apr 09 00:24
_GoblinI notice that the argument from Pro-Piracy goes something like this:Apr 09 00:25
_Goblingive us cheap on demand/streaming options and we wont download.....get rid of physical media.....Apr 09 00:25
DaemonFCwell, a lot of governments that sign those treaties, their next step is to get rid of all their pirated Windows software and suchApr 09 00:25
DaemonFCand replace it with free softwareApr 09 00:25
MinceRgnApr 09 00:25
DaemonFCbecause now it's that or pay up for all of itApr 09 00:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] OSI fears for !Linux if Novell patents land with Apple, Oracle http://bit.ly/euULToApr 09 00:25
TechrightsBot-trTitle: OSI fears for Linux if Novell patents land with Apple, Oracle • Channel Register .::. Size~: 19.77 KBApr 09 00:25
DaemonFCto satisfy the treatyApr 09 00:25
DaemonFCso it's not all a lossApr 09 00:26
DaemonFCbut it's mostly not good :)Apr 09 00:26
DaemonFCI'd rather see everyone in China using a Linux distribution than pirated WindowsApr 09 00:26
_Goblinthe worry for me would be that once physical media is gone, then the film industry would be free to up its prices, forcing that cost on the consumer who has no longer any choice but a streamed option.....Apr 09 00:26
DaemonFCbecause it might mean that more of the hardware they send to the US is Linux friendlyApr 09 00:27
_Goblinevery piece of hardware Ive come into contact with has been linux friendly (with the exception of an o2 dongle about 2 years ago)Apr 09 00:27
DaemonFCI think the film industry is dying and their last hope it to stuff a TPM down everyone's throatsApr 09 00:27
DaemonFCbecause that's the only way their DRM may stickApr 09 00:27
DaemonFC:)Apr 09 00:28
DaemonFCGoogle is already using the TPM to make sure users can't modify the settings on Chrome OS netbooksApr 09 00:28
DaemonFCgiven that, I doubt I want oneApr 09 00:28
_GoblinI think the rule is, people will pay for quality....unfortunately from what Ive suffered over the last year, quality and film industry rarely go together anymore.Apr 09 00:29
_Goblinthe money Ive wasted at the cinema on absolute tot is sickeningApr 09 00:30
MinceRthat's not exactly how the Cr-48 worksApr 09 00:30
DaemonFCthey save the passable movies for release near US holidays I noticeApr 09 00:30
MinceRthe point is that the user gets to decide whether stuff is modifiable on it :>Apr 09 00:30
_GoblinI think I lost all faith in hollywood when the Matrix was released....I really hated that film.....Apr 09 00:30
_Goblin"Hey guys, you've been living your life inside a computer....let me help you and free you to the real world with bad weather and a bunch of rocks"  ------ With help like that, I'd personally opt to stay in the computer....Apr 09 00:32
_GoblinMatrix rates nearly as bad as Avatar.Apr 09 00:32
schestowitzmatrixc sucksApr 09 00:33
cubezzzlet me guess, you prefered Tron?Apr 09 00:33
_Goblinand the only decent part of Avatar was when the bad guys started to blow up the planet, which quite frankly came as something of a relief.Apr 09 00:33
_GoblinTron? aaahhhhhhhhhhApr 09 00:33
cubezzzTron had the CDC 6600 and a Cray-1 :)Apr 09 00:34
_Goblinwhat a naff film that was.....and the remake was like a hangover that lasts for 2 days instead of 1Apr 09 00:34
_Goblinbest sci fi....Apr 09 00:34
_Goblinwithout doubtApr 09 00:34
_Goblin2001Apr 09 00:34
cubezzz2001 was 10 years ago, and we don't have HALApr 09 00:35
cubezzzis naff good or bad?Apr 09 00:35
_GoblinbadApr 09 00:35
cubezzzyou didn't like the original Tron?Apr 09 00:36
_GoblinnopeApr 09 00:36
_Goblinsilly....Apr 09 00:36
_Goblinwhat was that recent film about dreams within dreams.....can't remember the name, but I really disliked that one...Apr 09 00:37
cubezzzummmApr 09 00:37
_Goblinthis will bug me now.....Apr 09 00:37
_Goblina sort of assasin filmApr 09 00:38
_Goblincame out last yearApr 09 00:38
cubezzzwell there's the poem by PoeApr 09 00:38
_GoblinInceptionApr 09 00:38
_Goblinthat was itApr 09 00:38
cubezzzrightApr 09 00:38
cubezzzthere doesn't seem to be too many films you like Apr 09 00:38
_GoblinlolApr 09 00:38
_Goblinno not really.....I pick holes in them....ironic really since I love the WWEApr 09 00:39
cubezzzTron has the Encom -> Microsoft parallelApr 09 00:39
cubezzzwhich I found interestingApr 09 00:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] This new engine sounds awesome... but why bother? Full electric is the future, not hybrids http://ur1.ca/3t9au !scienceApr 09 00:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle: New engine shakes up auto industry  - Technology & science - Innovation - msnbc.com .::. Size~: 59.12 KBApr 09 00:40
schestowitzand wcw. gnApr 09 00:40
_GoblingnApr 09 00:41
_Goblinbut to be accurate wcw does not exist anymoreApr 09 00:42
schestowitz!google wcwApr 09 00:42
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - WWE: Homepage > The legacy of WCW revived | http://www.wwe.com/wcwApr 09 00:42
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - World Championship Wrestling - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Championship_WrestlingApr 09 00:42
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - YouTube - Last WCW Nitro!!! | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DCRo0iiZI-g4Apr 09 00:42
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - WCW Wrestlers | http://www.pwwew.net/people/wcwlist.htmApr 09 00:42
schestowitzhmmmApr 09 00:43
_Goblinbought by the WWEApr 09 00:43
_GoblinVince McMahon appeared on the last ep of Nitro to gloatApr 09 00:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] When #Toyota crashes Microsoft will blame bad drivers. #ToyWindowsApr 09 00:44
schestowitzOMGApr 09 00:44
schestowitzIs tht Razor Ramon?Apr 09 00:44
schestowitzhe's sill around?Apr 09 00:44
_GoblinyepApr 09 00:44
schestowitzLOLApr 09 00:44
schestowitzGnApr 09 00:44
_Goblinappeared on TNA I believe recently.Apr 09 00:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] ♻ @sebas: Plasma Active, an effort to create a desirable user experience encompassing the device spectrum http://bit.ly/ed6LGvApr 09 00:45
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Plasma Active – A Desirable User Experience Encompassing the Device Spectrum «  vizZzion.org :: sebas' blog .::. Size~: 17.51 KBApr 09 00:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Release for CentOS-5.6 i386 and x86_64 http://lwn.net/Articles/437624/rssApr 09 00:49
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Ender2070[19:36] <_Goblin> what was that recent film about dreams within dreams.....can't remember the name, but I really disliked that one...Apr 09 00:50
Ender2070InceptionApr 09 00:51
Ender2070I loved itApr 09 00:51
Ender2070oh u did find the nameApr 09 00:51
Ender2070lolApr 09 00:51
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_Goblinwasnt impressed by the movie at allApr 09 01:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] Taipei, here we come!Apr 09 01:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] We need a GitHub of !Science http://ur1.ca/3tays (headline sung to the popular Thomas Dolby song)Apr 09 01:45
TechrightsBot-trTitle: We need a GitHub of Science - marciovm's posterous .::. Size~: 41.24 KBApr 09 01:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] just watched #sucker punch and hugely enjoyed it. If you are into scifi/fantasy/comic/video games, this movie is a 2hr pleasure #moviesApr 09 02:09
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GoForbes28why is the U.S gov't shutting down?Apr 09 03:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] Raccoons on the sidewalk. The puppies are excited. Real excited.Apr 09 03:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @Chevenga: Philosopher in Arms 463 tser (wil post wknd or Mon): Niku + Kall + Skorsas http://bit.ly/ewKgxv #amwriting #Chevenga #weblitApr 09 03:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 463 Teaser : I didn't think I was getting into this | C H E V E N G A • L I V E S • H E R E .::. Size~: 41.78 KBApr 09 03:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @schestowitz: When #Toyota crashes Microsoft will blame bad drivers. #ToyWindows - how much did this cost Microsoft?Apr 09 03:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] A Challenge To Chris Castle - Chris - Who Do You Really Serve? http://bit.ly/fboA7a #copyright #politicsApr 09 05:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: A Challenge To Chris Castle – Chris – Who Do You Really Serve? | Wayne Borean aka The Mad Hatter .::. Size~: 25.36 KBApr 09 05:14
DaemonFCschestowitz, I think I'm going to switch back to GNOMEApr 09 05:27
DaemonFCGNOME 3 isn't that bad and it seems to provoke the free Radeon driver less than KDE does (KWin compositor)Apr 09 05:27
*DaemonFC decided to actually try GNOME 3 installed and configuredApr 09 05:28
GoForbes28try xfce 4.8 before the final switchApr 09 05:29
GoForbes28to be fairApr 09 05:30
GoForbes28if you're gonna try two, try the main 3Apr 09 05:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] ball curl mode activateApr 09 05:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] I find myself using identica less and less. Not sure if I'm bothered be thatApr 09 05:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] In #baseball, Toronto #BlueJays 3, LA #Angels 2. #LABaseball #Dodgers vs #Padres rain-delayed.Apr 09 05:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Repo Men (2010) too much surgery for my liking.Apr 09 06:45
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/felipenmoura/statuses/56495417944309761Apr 09 07:13
TechrightsBot-tr@felipenmoura: sem olhar a url...alguem da um palpite de quem é esse cara? http://goo.gl/lEcRUApr 09 07:13
TechrightsBot-trNot a web page! Aborting image/png typeApr 09 07:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 9/4/2011: More #GNOME 3, Qt SDK http://ur1.ca/3tdlv !techrightsApr 09 07:35
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schestowitz"Apr 09 07:37
schestowitzhttp://techcrunch.com/2011/04/08/breaking-doj-approves-googles-ita-deal-with-conditions/Apr 09 07:37
schestowitzGoogle Win!!!Apr 09 07:37
TechrightsBot-trTitle: DOJ Willing To Approve Google’s $700M ITA Deal, With Conditions .::. Size~: 54.44 KBApr 09 07:37
schestowitz"Apr 09 07:37
DaemonFChttp://img189.imageshack.us/img189/7973/screenshot1bd.pngApr 09 07:38
DaemonFChehApr 09 07:38
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DaemonFCschestowitz, GNOME 3 is clearly designed around netbooksApr 09 07:42
DaemonFCbut it works pretty well on a desktopApr 09 07:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Links 9/4/2011: More #GNOME 3, Qt SDK http://ur1.ca/3tdlv #techrightsApr 09 07:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[maymaym/@maymaym] New blog post: Power, #Privacy, and Privilege: Why #PornWikileaks is not like !Wikileaks http://maybemaimed.com/?p=3023 (Read, learn, know.)Apr 09 07:42
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Power, Privacy, and Privilege: Why PornWikileaks is not like Wikileaks «  Maybe Maimed but Never Harmed .::. Size~: 56.1 KBApr 09 07:42
DaemonFCI'm not sure if this could ever be a RHEL desktopApr 09 07:42
DaemonFCschestowitz, I pinned down the kernel panics on a friend's machine to the integrated Radeon he is usingApr 09 07:43
DaemonFCFedora finally spit out a human readable panic and it was complaining about the drm Apr 09 07:44
DaemonFCso I'll be getting one of my old Geforce cards for himApr 09 07:44
DaemonFCI think Nouveau works pretty well on that model (9500 GT)Apr 09 07:44
DaemonFCI wouldn't wish Nvidia's binary driver on a dog I hatedApr 09 07:45
DaemonFC:)Apr 09 07:45
DaemonFCbut I understand Nouveau is pretty good latelyApr 09 07:45
DaemonFCthe Catalyst Hotfix you linked to made me grinApr 09 07:46
schestowitzIt is...Apr 09 07:46
DaemonFCwhere that guy posted that only AMD could release a hotfix driver that causes a watermarkApr 09 07:46
schestowitzNouveauApr 09 07:46
schestowitzFedora worked on itApr 09 07:46
DaemonFCyes, Phoronix posted a benchmark of a 9500 GT performing as well as Nvidia's binary driver Apr 09 07:47
DaemonFCso I told my friend he'd be better off using NouveauApr 09 07:47
DaemonFCbecause Fedora can officially support thatApr 09 07:47
DaemonFCpeople I guess don't fully appreciate all the problems a binary video driver will causeApr 09 07:48
DaemonFCnot to mention not being able to use the latest Linux kernelApr 09 07:48
DaemonFC:PApr 09 07:48
schestowitzUbuntu Natty release countdown banners chosen http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/04/ubuntu-natty-release-countdown-banners-chosen/Apr 09 07:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ubuntu Natty release countdown banners chosen .::. Size~: 39.99 KBApr 09 07:49
DaemonFCschestowitz, it still has all kinds of bugs, Natty that isApr 09 07:50
DaemonFCI've ran into a few minor ones with Fedora 15Apr 09 07:50
DaemonFCnothing like NattyApr 09 07:50
DaemonFCNatty is still pushing daily "break everything" updatesApr 09 07:50
DaemonFCtheir patching to support Unity seems to be causing problems when you try to use some of those apps in KDEApr 09 07:51
DaemonFCsay what you will of GNOME 3, at least it follows FreeDesktop.org specsApr 09 07:51
DaemonFCUnity doesn't, though they claim that it doesApr 09 07:51
DaemonFCif it did, they wouldn't need to patch hundreds of applications to work with itApr 09 07:52
DaemonFCthey just would, as-isApr 09 07:52
DaemonFCUnity seems all about breaking standard behaviorApr 09 07:52
DaemonFCa lot of it works so much like GNOME 3 anyway that you have to wonder why they didn't just extend GNOME Shell if they absolutely had to be different for no reasonApr 09 07:53
DaemonFCUnity will cause confusion among people who wonder whether to use it or the real GNOME 3Apr 09 07:54
DaemonFCit's an attempt to fork GNOME and turn users and developers against it and towards CanonicalApr 09 07:54
schestowitzhttp://linuxhelp.blogspot.com/2011/04/how-to-create-screencast-in-gnome-3.htmlApr 09 07:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: How To Create A Screencast In GNOME 3 | All about Linux .::. Size~: 38.92 KBApr 09 07:56
schestowitzhttp://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/gljuq/gnome3_porn_can_equal_potential_awkwardness/Apr 09 08:05
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Gnome3 + porn can equal potential awkwardness. : linux .::. Size~: 74.02 KBApr 09 08:05
DaemonFCI may force the fallback modeApr 09 08:05
DaemonFCjust to see what it's likeApr 09 08:05
DaemonFC"The next login will use the fallback mode intended for unsupported graphics hardware."Apr 09 08:07
DaemonFChehApr 09 08:07
DaemonFCnobody using the free drivers should be getting thereApr 09 08:07
DaemonFC:PApr 09 08:07
DaemonFCbut FGLRX still chokes on GNOME ShellApr 09 08:07
DaemonFCbrbApr 09 08:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @mxc Great to get feedback like this from a student & know you made a difference !linux Growing FOSS in Africa http://bit.ly/eMmlyW ...Apr 09 08:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] ars technica: !Android chief Rubin's response to Android critics misses the point http://goo.gl/LFzrtApr 09 08:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Martin Gräßlin: Welcoming a new OpenGL Compositor http://goo.gl/VUYaCApr 09 08:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] David Planella: !Ubuntu App Developer Week 11.04 Starting on Monday http://goo.gl/BlUZ4Apr 09 08:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Jamie Strandboge: !Unity and Me http://goo.gl/xkJyHApr 09 08:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Heading home after a very fruitful & demanding ELN annual meeting. Lots of very competent high profile people, ideas flowing like torrentsApr 09 08:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #GIMP webpage plug-in http://goo.gl/oq9RHApr 09 08:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Random House Invests In Flat World Knowledge - http://bit.ly/gKOsWF "makes its textbooks available for free online under a #cc licence"Apr 09 08:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Boskoi, Urban Edibles - http://bit.ly/ey21kP "free, #opensource mobile app that helps you explore and map the edible landscape"; coolApr 09 08:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RIAA Lobbyist Turned Judge Backpedals On BitTorrent Cases - http://bit.ly/gFrXQt now let's do the same for the EU's Martin-Prat scandalApr 09 08:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle: GIMP webpage plug-in .::. Size~: 1.13 KBApr 09 08:50
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Boskoi, Urban Edibles  : Joey AT vanderBie.net .::. Size~: 43.72 KBApr 09 08:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Silicon South Africa: 'Google Launches Incubator For African Startups - http://tcrn.ch/dPbS8E good to see #africa getting more attentionApr 09 08:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] If You're Arguing That Someone 'Deserves' #Copyright, Your Argument Is Wrong - http://bit.ly/eN9BLN important pointApr 09 09:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] oh look, apart from being non-free, #Dropbox is also non-secure: http://ur1.ca/3tebaApr 09 10:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Testing #Xubuntu #NattyApr 09 10:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Dropbox Authentication: Insecure By Design - Slashdot .::. Size~: 134.31 KBApr 09 10:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @glynmoody: If You're Arguing That Someone 'Deserves' #Copyright, Your Argument Is Wrong - http://bit.ly/eN9BLN important pointApr 09 10:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ¡un !flisol exitoso y libre a todos los que participen! http://flisol.info/Apr 09 10:02
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: FLISOL2011 - FLISOL .::. Size~: 20.46 KBApr 09 10:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Wow, the new !Xubuntu looks really amazing...Apr 09 10:09
schestowitzhttp://www.google.com/trends?q=linuxApr 09 10:19
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schestowitzhttp://www.google.com/trends?q=microsoft&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all&sort=0Apr 09 10:20
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schestowitzhttp://www.google.com/trends?q=android&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all&sort=0Apr 09 10:20
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schestowitzinterestingApr 09 10:20
schestowitzdeclining http://www.google.com/trends?q=ubuntu&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all&sort=0Apr 09 10:20
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schestowitzThat shows what I was expectingApr 09 10:21
schestowitzLinux as a brand is dyingApr 09 10:21
schestowitzBecause of platforms like Android, which do use the codeApr 09 10:21
schestowitzThoughts?Apr 09 10:21
schestowitzhttp://www.google.com/trends?q=chrome+os&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all&sort=0Apr 09 10:24
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Google Trends: chrome os .::. Size~: 40.09 KBApr 09 10:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Signed up to the !Pens Beard-A-Thon again for the playoffs starting next week: http://outl.ws/vApr 09 10:27
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cubezzzhow can it be dying when there's new distros at distro watch all the time?Apr 09 10:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] just signed up for rsync.netApr 09 10:34
cubezzzit's closed source OSes that dieApr 09 10:34
cubezzzereaders, hdtvs,  servers...Apr 09 10:35
cubezzzall GNU/LinuxApr 09 10:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Editing audio...Apr 09 10:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Distribution Release: !CentOS 5.6 http://ping.fm/1a9UeApr 09 10:42
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cubezzzproprietary software company goes under, RIPApr 09 10:44
cubezzzno more OSApr 09 10:44
schestowitzhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florian_M%C3%BCllerApr 09 10:48
schestowitzLOLApr 09 10:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Florian Müller - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 38.38 KBApr 09 10:48
schestowitzhe's "noted" enough for wikipedia?Apr 09 10:48
schestowitzIt's like an advertApr 09 10:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] You remember when you asked, who would support a community !Gnome respin of !Ubuntu Natty, @popey ? http://ping.fm/xaAn9Apr 09 10:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Mark Hachman: !Facebook's !OpenSource Servers Will Change the Industry. Right? | News & Opinion | PCMag.com http://ping.fm/sfnCvApr 09 10:49
MinceRmaybe he has enough followers in some influential wikipedia cliqueApr 09 10:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The inevitable is here : Ubuntu gnome remix « Justin Stories .::. Size~: 40.89 KBApr 09 10:49
cubezzzoh and the major point of trusting the software, updating it yourselfApr 09 10:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Facebook's Open-Source Servers Will Change the Industry. Right? | News & Opinion  | PCMag.com .::. Size~: 86.11 KBApr 09 10:49
MinceRgeekingsApr 09 10:49
cubezzzclassic amiga, now there is a system that _could_ have diedApr 09 10:50
cubezzzbut it won't die because hobbyists have replicated the hardwareApr 09 10:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Good stuff, Vincent! http://www.yoursdp.org/index.php/news/singapore/4714-not-enough-good-people-in-singapore #sgelectionApr 09 10:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Smartphone Withdrawl? Paaahh!!! http://ping.fm/fWEUyApr 09 10:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #gmusicbrowser (the default music player of !Xubuntu) looks really good...Apr 09 10:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] "We will rock you" sums up nicely what will happen at #sgelectionApr 09 11:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] not sure if you should feel honoured; but Chinese like the N8? never seen so many different fake models before.Apr 09 11:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] True Leadership and The Open Source Way: http://wp.me/pj2fj-pn #sgelectionApr 09 11:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] Read & Comment the Jan LokPal Bill by Anna Hazare - http://tinyurl.com/3tkg2p3Apr 09 11:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] Most powerful statement in Jan LokPal Bill 2011 - "This Act shall override the provisions of all other laws."Apr 09 11:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[firefoxmilestones/@firefoxmilestones] #Firefox4 reached 71 million downloads on 2011-04-09 10:42 UTCApr 09 11:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Still tethered.....lets hope either its suitable for Skype or BT gets things sorted before tonights recording...Apr 09 11:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] Firstever in History, Jan Lokpal Bill claim to protect Whistleblower & Recovery of Loss due to Corruption, Whole world must follow it.Apr 09 11:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Constitution-Free Zone in the US - great map: http://ur1.ca/3teu0 Winning the War on Tourism, with style!Apr 09 11:55
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Constitution Free Zone - Map | American Civil Liberties Union .::. Size~: 34.21 KBApr 09 11:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] It all began with a Tweet - http://tnw.co/dNujWu sounds like it could be generalised #businessmodelsApr 09 11:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @glynmoody It all began with a Tweet http://tnw.co/dNujWu #businessmodel < another indication how world-changing #Dutch are. Thx @KLMApr 09 12:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: It all began with a Tweet .::. Size~: 91.74 KBApr 09 12:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] I'm in a vicious mood this morning. Who should I mess up <EVIL CHUCKLE>Apr 09 12:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laforge/@laforge] Funny German buerocrat language of the day: "Tanzlustbarkeiten" (Paragraph 33 Gewerbeordnung)Apr 09 12:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] The Cure, awesome guitar riffs! especially 'Fascination street'Apr 09 13:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] "Thanks for your interest in our survey. We are looking for respondents aged 18-24. We will contact you if we need your participation."Apr 09 13:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] eGovernance in public sector ICT procurement: what is shaping practice in #Sweden - http://bit.ly/gXl8C2 "lack of strategic decision making"Apr 09 14:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] @fabsh Yeah, isn't Bittorrent only for "pirates"? #sarcasmApr 09 14:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Missed this - WP calling for online privacy legislation. Good on you WP and Low TK. #sgelection http://ur1.ca/3tg1zApr 09 14:12
TechrightsBot-trTitle: MICA – Protection of Privacy Online : The Workers’ Party of Singapore .::. Size~: 26.41 KBApr 09 14:12
schestowitzWP?Apr 09 14:13
schestowitzFirst I thought WordPressApr 09 14:13
schestowitzThan White PowerApr 09 14:13
MinceRit could be WordPerfectApr 09 14:13
schestowitzI know, I thought so tooApr 09 14:13
schestowitzAfter WordPressApr 09 14:13
schestowitzBut it's almost goneApr 09 14:13
schestowitzNow just a Microsoft vassal with OOXMLApr 09 14:13
schestowitzWhitehouse P.Apr 09 14:14
schestowitzAnd then I thought in weird directions...Apr 09 14:14
schestowitz /Than/Then/Apr 09 14:14
oiaohmWP has too many meanings.   http://wp.codeplex.com/  This has to be the worst.Apr 09 14:19
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Fully automated version control system codename : White-Prince .::. Size~: 40.93 KBApr 09 14:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Dropbox authentication insecure by design? http://is.gd/00gIipApr 09 14:19
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Dropbox Authentication: Insecure By Design - Slashdot .::. Size~: 134.9 KBApr 09 14:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] If You're Arguing That Someone 'Deserves' Copyright, Your Argument Is Wrong http://is.gd/ZsRzD9Apr 09 14:22
TechrightsBot-trTitle: If You're Arguing That Someone 'Deserves' Copyright, Your Argument Is Wrong | Techdirt .::. Size~: 418.36 KBApr 09 14:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] I notice the copyright maximalists are all over that last #TechDirt post in the commentsApr 09 14:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Great to see the Worker's Party manifesto announced today - http://wp.sg/manifesto/ #sgelectionApr 09 14:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Manifesto : The Workers’ Party of Singapore .::. Size~: 18.43 KBApr 09 14:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Mass Infringement Lawyer: Never Mind The Facts, Just Pay Up http://is.gd/cBBvwpApr 09 14:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Mass Infringement Lawyer: Never Mind The Facts, Just Pay Up | Techdirt .::. Size~: 50.56 KBApr 09 14:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] it's a sad world where it more profitable to sue customers, than develop models to serve customers what they want http://is.gd/TMDA95Apr 09 14:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Merck's Drug Propecia Linked To Sexual Dysfunction http://ur1.ca/3tg9y !science #terrorismApr 09 15:10
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Ender2070I usually see people use the full WordPressApr 09 15:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] The Megabus Effect, a lengthy article on modern bus travel in the US http://ur1.ca/3tgedApr 09 15:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @szul @harishpillay That would be a good features. You might want to talk to @evan about that.Apr 09 15:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Megabus Effect - BusinessWeek .::. Size~: 58.81 KBApr 09 15:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Rajasthan farmers oppose agreements with agri MNCs - http://on-msn.com/h2IgYy have to wonder why government is doing this #monsanto #indiaApr 09 15:37
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Rajasthan farmers oppose agreements with agri MNCs -  Business News - News - MSN India .::. Size~: 54.33 KBApr 09 15:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Believing in your own BS: http://wp.me/pj2fj-pq #sgelectionApr 09 15:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Believing in your own BS « life one degree north, one-o-three degrees east .::. Size~: 36.24 KBApr 09 15:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Arrr!! Pirate Hard Drive Offers Infinite Capacity - http://bit.ly/gu2Y6L I can see this one taking off...Apr 09 15:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Arrr!! Pirate Hard Drive Offers Infinite Capacity | TorrentFreak .::. Size~: 26.19 KBApr 09 15:40
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/70726289Apr 09 15:47
TechrightsBot-tr@G. Forbes (goforbes28)'s status on Saturday, 09-Apr-11 13:56:23 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz From RMS - Alzheimer's research and a patent troll http://www.nature.com/news/2011/110405/full/472020a.htmlApr 09 15:47
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: Patent dispute threatens US Alzheimer's research : Nature News .::. Size~: 49.52 KBApr 09 15:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harvalah/@harvalah] * schestowitz Red Alert - I get the following message when trying to log on the the web log: "Error establishing a database connection."Apr 09 15:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harvalah/@harvalah] * schestowitz Maybe the problem is only temporary. I will try access again later.Apr 09 15:52
schestowitz"New Porn (@newpornia) is now following your tweets (@schestowitz) on Twitter. " WOT?Apr 09 15:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harvalah/@harvalah] * schestowitz The problem fixed itself. Probably was some sort of computer glitch.Apr 09 15:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Sometimes you have to wonder at humanity; man arrested over the stabbing of a 2 month old baby in Birmingham http://is.gd/jTjwfn :(Apr 09 16:10
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BBC News - Man arrested over baby stabbing in Birmingham .::. Size~: 56.97 KBApr 09 16:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] !hackers Please sign the petition against extradition to the USA of the Dutch Master Hacker Rop Gonggrijp ur1.ca/3s1p6 !fsf !WikileaksApr 09 16:30
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amarsh04new kernel seems fine: Linux victoria 2.6.39-rc2-git2 #2 SMP Sat Apr 9 14:45:20 CST 2011 i686 GNU/LinuxApr 09 16:41
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_Goblinschestowitz: FYI: I am still tethered however we can still try to record today....Ive done a few tests with connection speed and believe it or not its about the same as my landline (since I am so far away from the exchange)Apr 09 16:49
schestowitzI will continue to report throughout the week in TRApr 09 16:49
schestowitz_Goblin: what's up?Apr 09 16:49
schestowitzOhApr 09 16:49
schestowitzStill no oxygen 2Apr 09 16:49
_Goblinno...Apr 09 16:49
_Goblinhowever...Apr 09 16:49
schestowitzThat's a telling thingApr 09 16:49
schestowitzIt's a good thing o2 doesn't handle REAL o2Apr 09 16:49
schestowitzWe'd all be deadApr 09 16:50
_Goblindid a test with a binary download......240kb a second.....thats about the same as I get with my landline connection!Apr 09 16:50
schestowitz_Goblin: today we have a house party in my house. You should come with the family :-)Apr 09 16:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Good, #gwibber restarts posting on my status.net instance after updating #ubuntu #natty. :-)Apr 09 16:50
_Goblinlove too, but its a little too far!Apr 09 16:51
schestowitzYou'll be here... in absentiaApr 09 16:51
schestowitzHow's the weather down there?Apr 09 16:51
_Goblinwarm (not as warm as yesterday though)Apr 09 16:51
schestowitzSame here, I run in the morning with matesApr 09 16:51
schestowitzhere it's the same as yestrday, 19c maxApr 09 16:52
_GoblinDaniel is in the garden playing cars with his Uncle JamieApr 09 16:52
schestowitzUncle who used to live in same place?Apr 09 16:52
_GoblinnopeApr 09 16:52
schestowitzOhApr 09 16:52
schestowitzThat might be cousin or somethingApr 09 16:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harvalah/@harvalah] * schestowitz The problem is back and it's frustrating. Maybe it's my computer, but everything else is working well. Please check your end.Apr 09 16:52
_Goblinno.. this is shells brotherApr 09 16:52
schestowitzAh..Apr 09 16:52
schestowitzI rememberApr 09 16:52
schestowitz_Goblin: I'm abandoning GUI media playersApr 09 16:53
schestowitzI'llb log about it soonApr 09 16:53
_Goblinhe's been helping shell around the house when Ive been at work, moving stuff into the loft etcApr 09 16:53
schestowitzcommand-line is more flexibleApr 09 16:53
_Goblini love my audacious.Apr 09 16:53
schestowitz_Goblin: nice of himApr 09 16:53
schestowitzthe dev used to be hereApr 09 16:54
_Goblinyeah I spoke to him a few timesApr 09 16:54
_Goblinsince my article hit groklaw, Ive had quite a few emailsApr 09 16:54
amarsh04which cli media player do you use, schestowitz?Apr 09 16:55
_Goblin...Apr 09 16:59
schestowitzgroklaw is focused a lot on scony these daysApr 09 17:01
schestowitzI've exchanged about 10 message with PJ over the weekendApr 09 17:01
_Goblinschestowitz: just so I know, are we thinking of recording tonight?Apr 09 17:01
schestowitzamarsh04: mplayerApr 09 17:01
schestowitzfor audio files that is...Apr 09 17:02
schestowitzit has the -ss optionApr 09 17:02
schestowitzWhich is handyApr 09 17:02
schestowitz_Goblin: yesApr 09 17:02
schestowitzBut not till laterApr 09 17:02
amarsh04ah, ok... I've used it for playing the audio track only of video filesApr 09 17:02
schestowitzI'm up until 2Apr 09 17:02
_Goblinschestowitz: right....I'll see what I can do.....I'll quit now though incase of "fair use"Apr 09 17:03
_Goblinspeak to you later...Apr 09 17:03
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Ender2070hey guysApr 09 17:04
Ender2070what do u think of Xenu the catApr 09 17:04
Ender2070lolApr 09 17:04
Ender2070ill post pics on my blog todayApr 09 17:05
schestowitzI wrote another 10 pages of whitepaper todayApr 09 17:06
schestowitzAt the expense of doing TR stuffApr 09 17:06
Ender2070i can write you 100 pages of white paperApr 09 17:06
Ender2070;)Apr 09 17:06
schestowitzthis one is 60Apr 09 17:06
schestowitzBut I've worked on it since last monthApr 09 17:06
Ender207010 or 60? which is itApr 09 17:06
Ender2070inconsistencyApr 09 17:06
schestowitz10 moreApr 09 17:06
Ender2070I can give you infinite white pagesApr 09 17:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] 75% of Yahoo runs on Linux, the rest on FreeBSD. The whole world minus one runs their cloud on FOSS. http://ur1.ca/3sx1aApr 09 17:07
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Ender2070the limit is your hdd capacityApr 09 17:07
schestowitzJust 10 pages with proper work, code, research can take a lot of time...Apr 09 17:10
schestowitze.g. http://schestowitz.com/Research/Cardiac/Documents/2010/Tagging-Project-2010/2010-tagging.pdf http://schestowitz.com/Research/Cardiac/Documents/2010/Tagging-Project-2010/HTML/Apr 09 17:10
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: 2010 RESEARCH PROPOSAL - DRAFT .::. Size~: 3.67 KBApr 09 17:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Now don't forget #Japan, they are still in dire need. Trusted NGO to which you can donate: http://is.gd/YYasOHApr 09 17:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Help test and break Fedora 15 Beta RC2 now - http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/15-Beta.RC2/Apr 09 17:10
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Ender2070You know the world is ending when MSFT releases Visual Studio for LinuxApr 09 17:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Got the BBQ going at Castle Fab. Where is me beer?Apr 09 17:19
schestowitzMonoDevelop?Apr 09 17:21
schestowitzThey only give trial versionApr 09 17:21
schestowitzTo get developers addicted to c#Apr 09 17:21
schestowitzThen they go to Windows and VS, leave LinuxApr 09 17:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] "A: But they are worthless people, they've got no money. You take them on, you waste money and then what will you get in ... " #sgelectionApr 09 17:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] " ... compensation? Nothing." It's all about money. http://singaporedesk.blogspot.com/2011/04/its-all-about-money-really.html #sgelectionApr 09 17:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] I guess it is time for a WP GRC takeover at Holland-Bukit Panjang Town - http://ur1.ca/3tgy8 #sgelectionApr 09 17:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] it's no coincidence that "pop" is one type away from "poop" #music #mainstream #cultureApr 09 17:37
Ender2070you can get C# expressApr 09 17:41
Ender2070isnt a trialApr 09 17:41
Ender2070my school gave me a license for visual studio 2010 professionalApr 09 17:42
Ender2070i wasnt even there for programmingApr 09 17:42
Ender2070licensed to me tooApr 09 17:42
Ender2070not a site licenseApr 09 17:42
Ender2070probably to justify the insane costs of the programApr 09 17:43
Ender2070the college programApr 09 17:43
Ender2070I could make shitty .NET apps if I wantedApr 09 17:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harvalah/@harvalah] * schestowitz Good News! Everything is back to working perfect again.Apr 09 18:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] LINK: Arrr!! Pirate Hard Drive Offers Infinite Capacity http://tinyurl.com/3ow46efApr 09 18:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Really glad to see some of my ideas (http://ur1.ca/3thb7) are in the WP Manifesto (pages 58-60) - http://wp.sg/manifesto/ #sgelectionApr 09 18:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @openbytes LINK: Arrr!! Pirate Hard Drive Offers Infinite Capacity http://tinyurl.com/3ow46efApr 09 18:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @unhosted Why is it valuable to separate the Apps from the data? http://www.w3.org/DesignIssues/CloudStorage.htmlApr 09 18:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] This Kickstarter project is awesome - Protei, Open Hardware Oil Spill Cleaning Sailing Robot: http://kck.st/hUv68AApr 09 19:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] OPENBYTES: Quick look: Spiral Knights (A Java RPG) http://tinyurl.com/3zc5jnzApr 09 19:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] Guess who got 11GB worth of freedom by wiping out the old Windows XP partition from his !Trisquel machine today.Apr 09 19:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Concentrated heat http://ur1.ca/3thr4Apr 09 19:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Concentrated heat http://ur1.ca/3thr5Apr 09 19:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] American Land!Apr 09 19:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] AVRDude and the Duemilanoves #8bitbandsApr 09 20:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Saturday night seems popular with the Microsoft trolls in COLA. No families eh? No friends? All alone? Don't worry COLA will care for you.Apr 09 20:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is fabsh with 106 dents!Apr 09 20:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[firefoxmilestones/@firefoxmilestones] #Firefox4 reached 72 million downloads on 2011-04-09 19:47 UTCApr 09 20:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Martin Gräßlin: Rethinking Screensavers http://goo.gl/oxtmtApr 09 21:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Geek & Poke: Social Search http://goo.gl/PyWvoApr 09 21:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] How Jorge Castro multitasks in !Unity (video) http://goo.gl/2DMu5Apr 09 21:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Sense Hofstede: !GNOME 3: configuration wish granted http://goo.gl/DQUSAApr 09 21:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] omw to TEXAZ grill with mon pere!Apr 09 21:19
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DaemonFCI wonder where Unity will end up in the grand scheme of thingsApr 09 21:19
DaemonFCJust some Ubuntu only GNOME fork that needs a bazillion patched applications to run, or something that ends up in other distrosApr 09 21:20
MinceRit will probably end up in simple ubuntu-based distrosApr 09 21:20
DaemonFCFedora and OpenSuse don't seem eager to package it and Mint has rejected Unity and GNOME 3Apr 09 21:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @mvalente Installing Xerox Workcentre 7345... Linux: plug, scan network, play. MacOSX: 1.5 instruction pages, install driver, reboot. ...Apr 09 21:20
DaemonFCthey've all cited quality control concerns over UnityApr 09 21:21
DaemonFCfor different reasonsApr 09 21:21
DaemonFCFedora and OpenSuse said it's crap and needs lots of patched applications and Mint has basically said the interface sucksApr 09 21:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @mvalente Ah sim, certo Manuel Alegre, a solução para os nossos problemas é mais social democracia e mais Estado.Apr 09 21:22
DaemonFCMinceR, So far I can't find any GTK 3 themesApr 09 21:22
DaemonFCand it seems that you have to change themes using dconf-editor? :PApr 09 21:22
MinceRyou mean gconf-editor?Apr 09 21:23
DaemonFCnoApr 09 21:23
DaemonFCdconf-editorApr 09 21:23
MinceRdid they come up with yet another of that stuff?Apr 09 21:23
DaemonFCdconf/gsettings is a dbus-based replacement for gconfApr 09 21:23
MinceRsounds fun (not)Apr 09 21:24
DaemonFCbut a lot of apps still use GconfApr 09 21:24
DaemonFCso you now get bothApr 09 21:24
DaemonFCside by sideApr 09 21:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @mvalente O q eu gosto mm é de jornalistas na TV a falar contra a direita e o grande capital mas q passam férias no resort/SPA mais c ...Apr 09 21:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @mvalente Dasse, que os comunistas e os socialistas conseguem fazer mais FUD do q a Microsoft. E não é fácil... #religiao #seitasApr 09 21:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Murdoch abusing the political system to try and get off the hook over illegal behaviour? http://is.gd/HDX2t8 how predictably ethicalApr 09 21:24
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DaemonFCeverything that's officially part of GNOME is using dconf, and just about everything else uses gconfApr 09 21:24
DaemonFCso which editor you use depends on where the application came fromApr 09 21:24
MinceR:>Apr 09 21:24
MinceRand you get to run two daemons?Apr 09 21:25
DaemonFCyesApr 09 21:25
DaemonFC:)Apr 09 21:25
*MinceR facepalmsApr 09 21:25
DaemonFCdconf doesn't seem to have any advantages over gconf except now you have two settings management systems with two editorsApr 09 21:25
DaemonFCwhich both do basically the same thingsApr 09 21:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #tips #precious: "Encrypted and Remotely Synced Password List with Zim Desktop Wiki and Friends" http://ur1.ca/3tic9Apr 09 21:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] "Better have that doctor look at your hand now..." - LOL. Col. Tigh is awesome. :DApr 09 21:25
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DaemonFCin some ways I am liking how Unity does stuffApr 09 21:26
DaemonFCit still uses the old GNOME 2 stackApr 09 21:26
DaemonFCso you only have to use gconfApr 09 21:26
DaemonFCwhich was never really THAT bad and imo should not have been replacedApr 09 21:27
DaemonFC:)Apr 09 21:27
DaemonFCor, half-replaced Apr 09 21:27
DaemonFCor whatever you want to call thisApr 09 21:27
DaemonFCit's not a KDE 4 level disaster (GNOME 3), but there's plenty of things that just don't work quite right or are only somewhat implementedApr 09 21:28
DaemonFCit feels a lot like beta softwareApr 09 21:28
sebsebsebDaemonFC: MinceR  People have been trying to provide Unity optionaly for Fedora and OpenSuseApr 09 21:29
sebsebsebDaemonFC: MinceR other distro's will probably get Unity in their repos in the future yes,  Fedora and OpenSuse and so onApr 09 21:29
sebsebsebGnome 2 is nice, but so is XFCEApr 09 21:29
sebsebsebGnome Shell and Unity are new things, that people will  need to get used to over timeApr 09 21:30
DaemonFCI don't think Unity is going to happen on FedoraApr 09 21:30
sebsebseband for those that don't like Gnome Shell or Unity, well can easilly still use Gnome 2 in many distro's stillApr 09 21:30
sebsebsebDaemonFC: yes it isApr 09 21:30
DaemonFCjust because even if you get it working, you still have to patch EVERYTHING to use indicatorApr 09 21:30
sebsebsebDaemonFC: a guy has been working on itApr 09 21:30
sebsebsebDaemonFC: to provide as an option in the repo'sApr 09 21:30
DaemonFCso what can you do?Apr 09 21:30
DaemonFCFedora won't do thatApr 09 21:30
DaemonFCso are you going to replae every GNOME 3 app with versioning tricks in your Unity repo?Apr 09 21:31
sebsebsebDaemonFC: and something he needed to provide Fedora optioanlly, got accepted upstream evenApr 09 21:31
MinceRDaemonFC: or someone needs to patch unity to use real systray appletsApr 09 21:31
DaemonFClmaoApr 09 21:31
sebsebsebgive it  more time, and yes Unity is coming to Fedora and OpenSuse as options,  and then other distro's I expect after thatApr 09 21:31
DaemonFCMinceR, That's the better way of going about itApr 09 21:31
MinceRhm, i wonder if indicator allows larger "icons" in itselfApr 09 21:31
DaemonFCthat way you only need one patch instead of roughly 300Apr 09 21:31
MinceRif so, someone with enough time and perversity could code a systray container that's an "indicator"Apr 09 21:31
sebsebsebDaemonFC: as for Ubuntu 11.04,   it might use Ubuntu Classic Desktop by default instead, but probably notApr 09 21:32
DaemonFCoh godApr 09 21:32
MinceRyes?Apr 09 21:32
DaemonFCthe the system tray plug-in for the system tray replacement tray?Apr 09 21:32
DaemonFC:)Apr 09 21:32
MinceRindeedApr 09 21:32
sebsebsebDaemonFC: and  yes for now Gnome 2 is there as an option with Ubuntu's patches of course, but well Gnome 2 will go bye bye in Ubuntu 11.10Apr 09 21:32
MinceRyo dawg i heard you like iconsApr 09 21:32
sebsebsebDaemonFC: Ubuntu 11.10 is when they will use Gnome 3 for the backend stuff with Unity, and then bye bye Gnome 2Apr 09 21:32
sebsebseband Unity 2D with Qt will be the fall back optionApr 09 21:33
sebsebsebhmm maybe they will provide Gnome 3's fallback as well thoughApr 09 21:33
DaemonFCGNOME 3 kills the system tray entirely, but the tray icons are now in that invisible menu you can call up by moving the cursor to the bottom rightApr 09 21:33
DaemonFCI like thatApr 09 21:33
DaemonFCmore screen spaceApr 09 21:33
sebsebsebanyway said my stuff, but you two can keep on chatting about this,  just wanted to clear up some ignorance :DApr 09 21:33
sebsebsebgoing to watch TVApr 09 21:33
MinceRDaemonFC: some tray icons are nearly useless if they aren't always onscreen :>Apr 09 21:34
sebsebseboh andApr 09 21:34
sebsebsebone last thingApr 09 21:34
DaemonFCnot reallyApr 09 21:34
sebsebsebI am going to try and Virtual machine Ubuntu 11.04 soonish I guessApr 09 21:34
sebsebsebnow that I know how to do itApr 09 21:34
sebsebsebI mean  Virtualbox Ubuntu 11.04 with UnityApr 09 21:34
DaemonFCyou'd be better off with VMWareApr 09 21:35
sebsebsebnoApr 09 21:35
sebsebsebVirtualbox works well for meApr 09 21:35
DaemonFCthe kernel has a bunch of modules to support VMWare including a drm module for the VMWare virtual video cardApr 09 21:35
MinceRvmware is a horrible piece of crapApr 09 21:35
MinceRespecially all their consolesApr 09 21:35
sebsebsebwell I was told how to do Unity for Virtualbox :D  shoudn't take muchApr 09 21:35
sebsebsebgoing away from computerApr 09 21:36
MinceRvmware-vmrc fucks up the xkb keyboard mapping and holds on to grabs for way too longApr 09 21:36
*sebsebseb goes away from computerApr 09 21:36
MinceRthe vmware server client is ancient and can't even connect to current vsphereApr 09 21:36
MinceRthe vsphere client only runs on winblowsApr 09 21:36
MinceReven in wine it just claims _you_ interrupted the installationApr 09 21:36
DaemonFCMinceR, I was wrongApr 09 21:36
DaemonFCthe GNOME SHell itself uses gconfApr 09 21:36
DaemonFCnot dconfApr 09 21:37
DaemonFC:)Apr 09 21:37
MinceRalso, whatever vmware server i used likes to throw away TCP connections to its web interfaceApr 09 21:37
MinceRso many browsers simply can't be used to log inApr 09 21:37
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MinceRand vmware workstation liked to tell me after every reboot that it needed its kernel modules to be rebuiltApr 09 21:38
MinceRand on the next kernel upgrade, it just stopped working anymoreApr 09 21:38
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MinceRDaemonFC: must be fun for gnome 3 usersApr 09 21:39
MinceRno prospect of not running 2 superfluous daemonsApr 09 21:40
DaemonFChehApr 09 21:40
DaemonFCthere's still a GNOME Classic with Compiz optionApr 09 21:41
DaemonFCbut it doesn't work wellApr 09 21:41
MinceRdid compiz ever work well?Apr 09 21:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] #Libya, Qatar/Rebel oil deal for arms results in oil infrastructure being attacked. This stupid mess gets worse. #whathappened tooilembargo?Apr 09 21:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] Peg Leg Pete is on the ballot - @mikkelpaulson: Nomination confirmed! I'll be on the ballot. #yegcentre #elxn41 #votepirateApr 09 21:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @Chevenga: #Chevenga fans: break the tie in the Coolest Move in the Arkan War by a Supporting Character runoff poll chevenga.com #weblitApr 09 21:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @russellmcormond: Who wants a civil election? http://t.co/XHNhCT8 I do. #elcn41Apr 09 22:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♺ @evan: RT @martenmickos I discovered I always have choices and sometimes it's only a choice of attitude. - Judith M. Knowlton #quoteApr 09 22:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Metropia (2009) An animated film with a lot of topics on the go and visually memorable. #recommended #film West ham tattoo on Swede though?Apr 09 22:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Would have sent last dent to !film but I do not qualify for membership. Still, they have the domain their choice.Apr 09 22:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] There's no place I can be since I found Serenity...Apr 09 22:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Groklaw is shutting down May 16th http://ur1.ca/3tisrApr 09 22:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Someone tries to kill you, you kill them right back!Apr 09 22:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] The *special* hell....Apr 09 22:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] France and Britain have wrecked EU neighbourhood policy with #Libya. Believing that a bout of #violence is worth more than steady progressApr 09 22:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Do I have your attention? - Jayne is awesome... :DApr 09 22:47
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twitterAck.  PJ is calling it quits.Apr 09 22:49
twitterhttp://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20110409161444432#c913727Apr 09 22:49
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twitterShe's tired of Microsoft harassment and all the hard work.Apr 09 22:50
twitterI'm bet there's going to be a FUD and Libel fest big enough to change her mind.Apr 09 22:51
twitterThe Microsoft people are going to dig right in and smear the hell out of her if they think she will keep quiet. Apr 09 22:51
schestowitzHi twitterApr 09 22:52
schestowitzHow are you?Apr 09 22:52
twitterI'm doing just fine, thanks.Apr 09 22:53
schestowitzI've just come back]Apr 09 22:53
schestowitzI spoke to PJ a lotApr 09 22:53
twitterrecently, about quitting?Apr 09 22:53
schestowitzWe're usually at risk of Microsoft people smearing our character and also threatening with litigation for chilling effectApr 09 22:53
schestowitzLike Florian did to meApr 09 22:53
twitterThey will have more time for you now.Apr 09 22:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @fabsh too bad they didn't do that to the network channel that cut them off :) #fireflyApr 09 22:54
schestowitzI am not quittingApr 09 22:54
schestowitzDon't worry, I have enough on my handsApr 09 22:54
twitterPJ is quitting.Apr 09 22:54
schestowitz2 jobs and maybe 3rd coming, I still have a lot of timeApr 09 22:54
schestowitzAnd some articles coming tonight depending how awake I amApr 09 22:54
schestowitzI might pass causes I had 4 large cans of beers... went out with matesApr 09 22:55
schestowitzLet me read PJ's pieceApr 09 22:55
schestowitzShe nearly quit in December 2009Apr 09 22:55
schestowitzBut she didn't tell anyone except fewApr 09 22:55
twitterI'd like to have a beer or two, but I need exercise more.Apr 09 22:55
schestowitzI hope I do manage to carry a torch of sortsApr 09 22:55
schestowitztwitter: if you come to the UK, let me knowApr 09 22:56
schestowitzI'll buy you the beers :-)Apr 09 22:56
twitterthanksApr 09 22:56
*schestowitz readsApr 09 22:56
twitterbbl, I'm going for a bike ride.  Apr 09 22:57
schestowitz"I know a lot of you will be unhappy to hear it, so let me briefly explain, because my decision is made and it's firm. In a simple sentence, the reason is this: the crisis SCO initiated over Linux is over, and Linux won. SCO as we knew it is no more. "Apr 09 22:57
schestowitzYes, she wonApr 09 22:57
schestowitzBut like Brian said recently, it's the lawyers who won itApr 09 22:57
schestowitzGroklaw provided elucidating commentaryApr 09 22:57
twitterdon't count out the effect of public opinionApr 09 22:57
twitterhad this case happened before the internet and Groklaw, the justices in Delaware might have ruled in SCO's favor and few would have known better.Apr 09 22:58
twitterPJ put a damper on shameless Microsoft press propaganda and set a lower limit of credulity for the whole caseApr 09 22:59
twittershe also channeled technical opinion for the lawyers and judges who would have been guided by Microsoft types otherwiseApr 09 23:00
twitterthat's real leadership and accomplishmentApr 09 23:01
schestowitz"Your wonderful work has inspired Shane and I as we ran Boycott Novell (now part of Techrights) because of the wonderful research that you did, rebutting a lot of the corporate press in the process. I hope you will continue to help us techies understand how to interpret things from a legal point of view."Apr 09 23:01
schestowitz"We are going to miss you and carry on with your inspiration."Apr 09 23:01
schestowitz-meApr 09 23:01
twittersadly, leadership is only well rewarded when it coincides with the interests of the rich and powerfulApr 09 23:02
twitterI think your comment and that of many others will make PJ feel very good.  She deserves it.Apr 09 23:02
twitterI don't think she will get to go back to "normal" life.  The Microsofties will libel her as long as people remember and cite Groklaw. Apr 09 23:03
schestowitzOne person says: "Will the news picks continue?"Apr 09 23:03
schestowitzI wondered the same thing...Apr 09 23:03
schestowitztwitter: she kickstarted other endeavoursApr 09 23:04
schestowitzLike oursApr 09 23:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] That's why I never kiss them on the mouth.Apr 09 23:04
schestowitzSo Groklaw is just embodied in other placesApr 09 23:04
twitterI thanked her for those and said I'd miss them.  http://www.groklaw.net/comment.php?mode=display&sid=20110409161444432&title=Thanks+for+all+you+have+done+and+watch+out.&type=article&order=&hideanonymous=0&pid=913727#c913759Apr 09 23:04
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schestowitzI posted a defence of Groklaw only yetserdayApr 09 23:04
twitter Thank you so much for publishing and teaching us all that hard working individuals and communities can make a difference.  Groklaw undoubtedly shamed US courts and media enough to prevent SCO from collecting fees from gnu/linux users, though not enough to get the farce dismissed seven years ago.  You deserve fame and reward.  I wish that I could tell you that your silence will end the smears and other attacks.  The Microsoft gang will coApr 09 23:04
schestowitzI got attacked for it in TwitterApr 09 23:05
schestowitzBy the .NET crowdApr 09 23:05
twitterReally?  Oh yeah, predictable. Apr 09 23:05
twitterLike I said, they are going to have more time for you now that they don't have to astroturf GL Apr 09 23:05
schestowitz"Grokliie"Apr 09 23:05
schestowitzFlorian's term that he repeatsApr 09 23:05
schestowitzPayrise for him tonight?Apr 09 23:05
twitterHe and his buddies will probably impale themselves on Krystal or some other overpriced poison Apr 09 23:06
schestowitzI wonder why it coincided with my chats with herApr 09 23:07
schestowitzme: "> >> That sounds like Florian and the Hercules gang."Apr 09 23:07
twitterThey seem to have made Pogson redundant too.  Do you know more of why he's been canned? Apr 09 23:07
schestowitzActually that's herApr 09 23:07
schestowitzme: "Apr 09 23:07
schestowitzGroklaw needs to watch out for people who try to incite against GroklawApr 09 23:07
schestowitz> (and sometimes succeed). I had that done to me for years.Apr 09 23:07
schestowitz"Apr 09 23:07
schestowitzHer: "well, Groklaw has been going through that since 2003."Apr 09 23:08
schestowitzThat was hours agoApr 09 23:08
twitternow that she's silent, they will come on full forceApr 09 23:08
schestowitzWhat about Pogson?Apr 09 23:08
schestowitzI tried to life him upApr 09 23:08
schestowitzHe has been kindApr 09 23:08
schestowitzWhen we suffered DDOS for 3 days he said he'd offer us server spaceApr 09 23:08
schestowitzOh, redundant as in out of workApr 09 23:09
twitterOne of his trolls taunted him about being fired.  He's since mentioned it in his blog.Apr 09 23:09
schestowitzI thought you meant something elseApr 09 23:09
schestowitzA mate of mine was made redundant tooApr 09 23:09
schestowitzWe went out todayApr 09 23:09
schestowitzHe's under a lot of stressApr 09 23:09
schestowitzAmicus?Apr 09 23:09
twitterThey are all one and the same, I'm sure.Apr 09 23:10
schestowitzThat's an AstorTurfer from COLA  who harassed him there for agesApr 09 23:10
schestowitzTE groupieApr 09 23:10
schestowitzGot this by mail 2 hours ago:Apr 09 23:10
twitterMicrosoft and other big companies create a general atmosphere of stress.  We also know that they relentlessly harass and seek to harm those who dare contradict them.Apr 09 23:10
schestowitz> Dear Dr. Schestowitz,Apr 09 23:10
schestowitz>  Apr 09 23:10
schestowitz> I came across this press release from the Department of Justice and IApr 09 23:10
schestowitz> thought all of you might find it of some interest.  Apr 09 23:11
schestowitz>  Apr 09 23:11
schestowitz> It appears that my former boss/business partner, Mr. Jon DeVaan, hasApr 09 23:11
schestowitz> violated two out of three prohibitions listed below and since I haveApr 09 23:11
schestowitz> never personally seen his "Birth Certificate" and cannot officiallyApr 09 23:11
schestowitz> verify that he was actually born here in America, who knows, maybe heApr 09 23:11
schestowitz> has now violated all three prohibitions listed below just like, Mr.Apr 09 23:11
schestowitz> al-Ali or Mr. Elali, and/or Mr. DeVaan or Mr. DeVann?Apr 09 23:11
schestowitz>  Apr 09 23:11
schestowitz> Best RegardsApr 09 23:11
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schestowitz> Tony WhitcombApr 09 23:11
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schestowitz> http://expotera-ceo.blogspot.com/2010/05/microsoft-illegal-campaign.htmlApr 09 23:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] I wonder if people who sign up for microblogs with real long names realise their nick alone takes up a large chunk of the 140 charsApr 09 23:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] I fucking hate wii an all it's wiresApr 09 23:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] if #Twitter block nicks that people have deleted, at some point only real long nicks are left, what then? Or will they be defunct by then?Apr 09 23:12
twitterI'm not really following the whole Expotera thing.Apr 09 23:12
twitterglad to hear you had a nice night, Roy.  my bike is calling me.  Apr 09 23:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] The whole point of swearin is that it ain't appropriate. ~ KayleeApr 09 23:15
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/directhex/statuses/56793128451055617Apr 09 23:18
TechrightsBot-tr@directhex: It always amuses me when Techrights' paranoid delusional commenters start attacking each other for not keeping the faith enough.Apr 09 23:19
schestowitz.NET lobbyistsApr 09 23:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] This must be what going mad feels like...Apr 09 23:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] #bugzap Just reported [Bug 694383] Matshita DVD-RAM UJ-844 doesn't work correctly http://b1t.it/fzcApr 09 23:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] Quick question - who has seen 'And Then Came Lola' Rom Comedy 2009 - and did you like it? Anyone? Article in progress.Apr 09 23:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Bible's broken. Doesn't make sense.Apr 09 23:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] We gotta go to crappy town where I'm a hero...Apr 09 23:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Missed Tuesday's !Techrights listening now.Apr 09 23:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] Political argument spawned lookup of riding history - didn't know that Prime Minister William Lyon Mackenzie King represented our riding.Apr 09 23:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] I got a hamster!Apr 09 23:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Delighted to say I do not even know what MS ribbon thing isApr 09 23:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Too much hair...Apr 09 23:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Jayneday FTWApr 09 23:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Win8 "leak" sites down? #Microsoft responding to the backlash in the comments? Or part of the "forbidden" hype? http://is.gd/BkaXXDApr 09 23:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Windows 8 Leak Sites Suddenly Close Down | Windows 7 News .::. Size~: 72.54 KBApr 09 23:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Excuse me... Can I see a menu?Apr 09 23:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♻ @stav !Google's new CEO Larry Page Promotes 5 Software Engineers to Sr VP positions http://ur1.ca/3tj49Apr 09 23:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Noted: Issue of Microsoft Anti-Competitive Operating System Bundling Raised by European Parliamentarians http://ur1.ca/3tj4s #eu #microsoftApr 09 23:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Noted: Issue of Microsoft Anti-Competitive Operating System Bundling Raised by European Parliamentarians http://ur1.ca/3tj4s #gnu #linuxApr 09 23:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @goforbes28: @schestowitz From RMS - Alzheimer's research and a patent troll http://www.nature.com/news/2011/110405/full/472020a.htmlApr 09 23:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] ♺ @schestowitz: Noted: Issue of #Microsoft Anti-Competitive Operating System Bundling Raised by #EU Parliamentarians http://ur1.ca/3tj4sApr 09 23:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Why We Can Cover Issues Like !Microsoft and the Gates Foundation a Lot Less Often Than Before http://ur1.ca/3tj7s #techrightsApr 09 23:57
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