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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] OPENBYTES: WP7– The saga continues – When even the diehard can’t advocate? http://tinyurl.com/3hgtxyg !windows !microsoft !wp7 !mvp !mvpbuzApr 17 00:05
TechrightsBot-trTitle: WP7 – The saga continues – When even the diehard can’t advocate? « OpenBytes .::. Size~: 40.59 KBApr 17 00:05
MinceRgnApr 17 00:07
twitterwow, that openbytes WP7 write up is goodApr 17 00:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] In today's world the word "protect" is often used to mean excludeApr 17 00:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Sued for torture: the Whitehouse's Egyptian favorite, Omar Suleiman http://alturl.com/xze5tApr 17 00:26
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sebsebsebschestowitz: Right CD burnt about to put Ubuntu 11.04 Beta 2 onApr 17 00:37
sebsebsebbye bye PC Linux OSApr 17 00:37
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/GoldenScepter/status/59398313795006464Apr 17 00:38
TechrightsBot-tr@GoldenScepter: @schestowitz A PC includes desktop towers and notebook computers, because each has a functional keyboard for use as a computer terminal.Apr 17 00:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 16/4/2011: Humble Bundle, Kubuntu 11.04 Raves http://ur1.ca/3v5vo !techrightsApr 17 00:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Links 16/4/2011: Humble Bundle, Kubuntu 11.04 Raves http://ur1.ca/3v5vo #techrightsApr 17 00:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Crap. On a #BSG binge. There must be some kind of way out of here..... oOApr 17 00:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ghostler/@ghostler] #Linux audio Yahoo Best Answer, transfer LPs to MP3s using Audacity with equalizer and noise popping removal provisions. http://ur1.ca/3v64tApr 17 01:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] /me has still not hit the Hendricks.Apr 17 01:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @reality Quantity, not quality, of course.Apr 17 01:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] tried to open #Gmail without a detour... #OMG, that is slow! !OnlyInChinaApr 17 01:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] @themadhatter That ("moral rights only") addresses nothing as it can still be broadly or exclusively licensed. Seen it in Germany.Apr 17 02:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] with decent internet connectivity I could get some work done! :-sApr 17 02:20
twitterThanks for documenting Microsoft Florian's media spam.  I've followed up with a call out of his defense of Microsoft http://techrights.org/2011/04/16/how-mobbyists-operate/#comment-115448Apr 17 03:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] "Liberty, Democracy and Equality are words to fool the people. No nation can progress with such ideas" - Herr Garbage, Min. of Propaganda !qApr 17 03:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] "We want to live by each other's happiness — not by each other's misery." !q #CharlieChaplin from The Great DictatorApr 17 04:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] Closing speech of the Jewish barber, after being mistaken for Hynkel. http://is.gd/2maL5j #CharlieChaplinApr 17 04:08
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cubezzzthe homebrew linux blogs are better than anything zdnet with it's 'pro' journalists can cook upApr 17 04:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] We now provide Language Services (I18N and L10N) for IT related projects: http://is.gd/w0YwPj e.g. Chinese, English, DutchApr 17 05:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: gbraad.nl | LinkedIn .::. Size~: 17.91 KBApr 17 05:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] argh! had to test with different configsApr 17 05:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @rpcutts Ooo that's a good one. The last time that ManCity beat ManUtd in an #facup SF, they went on to lose the final v Bolton (1926 ...Apr 17 06:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] The Rebirth of Encyclopedia Dramatica: http://bit.ly/gHT3e4 #anonymous #encyclopediadramatica #cultureApr 17 06:41
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tessier_cubezzz: True, unfortunately.Apr 17 06:51
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/71213606Apr 17 07:16
TechrightsBot-tr@Richard Fontana (fontana)'s status on Sunday, 17-Apr-11 02:26:22 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Thank you for observing #asayroll standard and setting a good example for others. :-)Apr 17 07:16
schestowitzbut what does asayroll mean?Apr 17 07:16
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/dredeyedick/status/59404790962196480Apr 17 07:17
TechrightsBot-tr@dredeyedick: @schestowitz While at Quantico, "protect" is synonymous with "deprive of sleep" #Manning #torture #ICC #USDOR #RiseTogetherApr 17 07:17
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/WireWulf/status/59454291089424385Apr 17 07:17
TechrightsBot-tr@WireWulf: @schestowitz nah it is a home entertainment center duh!Apr 17 07:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Intel sets up #MeeGo research center with China's Tencent http://ur1.ca/3u8zu #linuxApr 17 07:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Intel sets up MeeGo research center with China's Tencent - smartphones, Phones, consumer electronics, Automotive, industry verticals, tablet PCs, netbooks, laptops, hardware systems, Investments, business issues, Tencent, Intel - Computerworld .::. Size~: 80.39 KBApr 17 07:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #CentOS 5.6 Screenshots http://ur1.ca/3vdd9 #redhat #rhel #gnu #linuxApr 17 07:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle: CentOS 5.6 Screenshots | Linux, BSD, Solaris & Other OS Screenshots | The Leader in Linux, BSD, Solaris & Other OS Screenshots | Screen Shots of Linux Distributions, BSD, Solaris & Other OSes | Linux, BSD, Solaris & Other OS Screenshot Gallery .::. Size~: 28.67 KBApr 17 07:40
cubezzzthat's nothing:Apr 17 07:42
cubezzzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/linux-486.jpgApr 17 07:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] goodnight !identiverseApr 17 07:45
schestowitzHehApr 17 07:46
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ksk7pMYNK7QApr 17 07:47
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schestowitzhi, dominiksApr 17 07:51
schestowitzand koolhead17Apr 17 07:51
schestowitzcubezzz: at first i wondered what wm it isApr 17 07:51
cubezzzicewmApr 17 07:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #MIPS creates community for #Android developers http://ur1.ca/3vdf8 #linux in devices doing wellApr 17 07:53
cubezzzno KDE 4 on 16 megs ;-)Apr 17 07:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: MIPS creates community for Android developers - 4/14/2011 - Electronics Weekly .::. Size~: 65.96 KBApr 17 07:53
koolhead17hi schestowitzApr 17 07:54
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koolhead17seems like amazon getting competition from all corners in cloud fieldApr 17 07:55
schestowitzhttp://www.ubuntu-user.com/Online/Blogs/Amber-Graner-You-in-Ubuntu/Ubuntu-11.04-Natty-Narwhal-Beta-2-Now-AvailableApr 17 07:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ubuntu 11.04 Natty Narwhal Beta 2 Now Available / Amber Graner: You in Ubuntu / Blogs / Online / Home - Ubuntu User .::. Size~: 101.54 KBApr 17 07:59
schestowitz[07:53] <cubezzz> no KDE 4 on 16 megs ;-)Apr 17 07:59
schestowitzwhy?Apr 17 07:59
cubezzzno distro that runs KDE 4 will run in 16 megs of ramApr 17 08:00
schestowitzwhere would it fail if you tried?Apr 17 08:03
koolhead17cubezzz: how/why?Apr 17 08:03
cubezzzthe minium is around 256 megsApr 17 08:04
cubezzz16 megs doesn't come closeApr 17 08:04
cubezzzjust getting X running in 16 megs is hard enoughApr 17 08:04
cubezzzthis is on 2.2 kernelApr 17 08:06
cubezzzso older kernel, with minimal wm, then yes you can do itApr 17 08:06
cubezzzslackware 4... or a something based on slackware 4Apr 17 08:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Angry Birds Angry with Linux? http://ur1.ca/3vdk0 no joy, but it's proprietary anywayApr 17 08:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Linux support is already spot-on for both the official Catalyst Linux driver and within the open-source stack." http://ur1.ca/3vdodApr 17 08:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Thoughts on Technology: Angry Birds Angry with Linux? .::. Size~: 78.06 KBApr 17 08:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] Where The Open-Source AMD Driver Is At For Modern GPUs .::. Size~: 19.39 KBApr 17 08:15
schestowitzcubezzz: I can do x+linux 2.4+jvm in 16 mbApr 17 08:15
schestowitzor 19Apr 17 08:15
cubezzzsureApr 17 08:15
cubezzzwhich distro is that?Apr 17 08:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Much to release today, lets hope I have enough time. Early start today! - Oh and I still haven't watched Harry Potter on BluRay yet... :(Apr 17 08:18
cubezzzyou can cheat a bit with swapApr 17 08:19
cubezzzI had a very small 240 meg drive on BL3Apr 17 08:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] So I'll start with releasing Openbytes articles and hopefully a !techbytes episode later.....Apr 17 08:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] RT @schestowitz "Linux support is already spot-on for both the official Catalyst Linux driver and within the open-source stack." http:// ...Apr 17 08:20
cubezzzyou could stick a 1998 hard drive in a 1993 machine...Apr 17 08:22
cubezzz16 meg is a harsh limitApr 17 08:23
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/71224318Apr 17 08:27
TechrightsBot-tr@Goblin (openbytes)'s status on Sunday, 17-Apr-11 07:20:31 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz If Angry Birds is not on a touch device would it translate well anyway?..Could get it on PSN - not interested.Apr 17 08:27
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/71224359Apr 17 08:27
TechrightsBot-tr@Goblin (openbytes)'s status on Sunday, 17-Apr-11 07:21:48 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Oh and Good morning Roy!Apr 17 08:27
schestowitzcubezzz: dslApr 17 08:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] New #KDE project aims at tablets, mixed UIs http://ur1.ca/3vdrq "The new Plasma Active and Contour projects ...set top boxes."Apr 17 08:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: New KDE project aims at tablets, mixed UIs - tablet PCs, Qt, open source, Linux, KDE Plasma Netbook, kde, basysKom - Development Tools - Open Source - Techworld .::. Size~: 78.94 KBApr 17 08:28
schestowitzcubezzz: with some programs you can read from disk, assuming program parts don't need more than 16mb near the cpu all at onceApr 17 08:28
schestowitzI doubt applications are written to cope with that contraintApr 17 08:29
schestowitz*consApr 17 08:29
cubezzznope, but it's an interesting experimentApr 17 08:30
cubezzzimage manipulation, chess, openoffice, would all suck with only 16 megs of ramApr 17 08:32
schestowitzMaybe a compatibility layer can be coded to make lots or ram come through disk in chunks that overcome this limitatioApr 17 08:32
schestowitzcubezzz: heh, trueApr 17 08:32
schestowitzImagine working on large bitmap and then running to swap while you edit parts of the imageApr 17 08:33
cubezzzwith freedos 16 megs is tonsApr 17 08:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Google holds back #Android Honeycomb; #Asus releases the source code http://ur1.ca/3vdtn #linuxApr 17 08:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Google holds back Android Honeycomb; Asus releases the source code | ITworld .::. Size~: 116.79 KBApr 17 08:33
schestowitzcubezzz: Apr 17 08:33
schestowitz!google 640k enough for everyoneApr 17 08:33
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Bill Gates - Wikiquote | http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Bill_GatesApr 17 08:33
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Did Gates Really Say 640K is Enough For Anyone? | http://www.wired.com/politics/law/news/1997/01/1484Apr 17 08:33
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - 640K Ought to Be Enough for Everybody – The InnerLayer – SoftLayer ... | http://blog.softlayer.com/2008/640k-should-be-enough-for-everybody/Apr 17 08:33
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Did Bill Gates say the 640k line ? « Imran On Tech | http://imranontech.com/2007/02/20/did-bill-gates-say-the-640k-line/Apr 17 08:33
cubezzzhe says he never said itApr 17 08:34
schestowitzMight be true..Apr 17 08:34
schestowitzHe said worse thingsApr 17 08:34
schestowitzthis one's a memeApr 17 08:34
cubezzz256 megs is OK for most things... it's been well tested for yearsApr 17 08:35
cubezzzif you're doing something memory intensive... well it's probably not enoughApr 17 08:36
cubezzzthere are lighter OSes than Linux, but at least with Linux you have a lot of choiceApr 17 08:37
cubezzzMenuetOS fits on a couple of 3.5" diskettesApr 17 08:38
cubezzzwhen I first started programming, I had 4K of ramApr 17 08:39
schestowitzshould be enough for anywone :-)Apr 17 08:42
cubezzzcompare that to the best PDP machine...Apr 17 08:42
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/akshatj_96/status/59518956872019968Apr 17 08:42
TechrightsBot-tr@akshatj_96: @schestowitz I see some software that hasn't been updated for years.Apr 17 08:42
cubezzzfirst PDP-11 had 28K words maxApr 17 08:43
schestowitzIt can be forked/have successionApr 17 08:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Audacity 1.3.13 released http://ur1.ca/3vdy1 very handy programApr 17 08:43
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cubezzzno wonder DEC diedApr 17 08:43
cubezzzi remember when the first sound blaster came out... the customer was so happy he could make his computer talkApr 17 08:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[firefoxmilestones/@firefoxmilestones] #Firefox4 reached 88 million downloads on 2011-04-17 07:52 UTCApr 17 08:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] pic of the week - http://bit.ly/hG9agL a wonderful Dutch riverscape in #london #picApr 17 09:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Android Explosion: How Google’s Freewheeling Ecosytem Threatens the #iPhone - http://bit.ly/fihExo good start, weak end (v @jackschofield)Apr 17 09:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The #BRIC countries’ Hainan summit could make the G20 redundant - http://bit.ly/dWG6Dg great analysis: this is the future #economicsApr 17 09:11
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Android Explosion: How Google’s Freewheeling Ecosytem Threatens the iPhone | Magazine .::. Size~: 92.96 KBApr 17 09:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The BRIC countries’ Hainan summit could make the G20 redundant - Telegraph .::. Size~: 71.06 KBApr 17 09:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RIP #Google Video: Download Your Videos by May 13 or They’re Gone Forever - http://on.mash.to/iaYZBh why you need backups of cloud contentApr 17 09:13
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DaemonFCGoogle Video was kind of pointlessApr 17 09:14
DaemonFCsince they had Youtube as wellApr 17 09:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Hyperdisken: Popcorn in your radio - http://bit.ly/f0Zti4 syncs audio & transcript: more cool innovation from #mozilla (v @nitot)Apr 17 09:20
TechrightsBot-trTitle: YOYODYNE – Where the future begins tomorrow. » Hyperdisken: Popcorn in your radio .::. Size~: 20.7 KBApr 17 09:20
DaemonFCI wonder if BFS builds cleanly in 2.6.39Apr 17 09:21
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DaemonFCI've learned before that just because it applies cleanly doesn't mean it actually works right when you reboot a later kernel than what it was designed forApr 17 09:22
DaemonFCthe most common problem I've seen in this case is the CPUs not waking up from suspend properly leading to freezes either right then or shortly afterApr 17 09:22
DaemonFCI've had mixed results with BFS, it doesn't actually cause my throughput to go up, but it does seem to make the system feel more responsive, and it actually works a lot better with the power governors than CFS on my Phenom IIApr 17 09:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] iPhone 4 About To Be Flickr’s Top Camera. Point & Shoots? Pretty Much The Opposite. - http://tcrn.ch/e2jCxa it's the future #photographyApr 17 09:25
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DaemonFChis biggest point is that the CFS scheduler has a lot of code that only matters if you're on a system with dozens of processors, but it's not like that scheduling logic will hurt smaller systems since it sees what it's dealing with and doesn't invoke any of itApr 17 09:25
DaemonFCso at best you're removing a lot of scheduler code that's never used on your PC anyway and using an out of tree scheduler that has been tested less B-)Apr 17 09:26
DaemonFCsome of the stuff on Con Kolivas's blog is fairly dubious Apr 17 09:27
DaemonFClrzip may have something to itApr 17 09:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] After listening to many views I think I may go back to the previous theme I used for OpenBytes.....I like the article previews better...Apr 17 09:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Bitcoin: Imagine a net without intermediaries - http://bit.ly/eN7aYn "decentralized and anonymous virtual currency"; #opensource tooApr 17 09:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Art of Endless Upgrade - http://bit.ly/fQ8E2x "Expecting to spend your life upgrading should be a life skill taught in school"Apr 17 09:30
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DaemonFCIf anyone has Ubuntu Natty and an AMD RadeonHD card, and would like to test my BKL removal patches (based on Arch Linux's), knock yourself outApr 17 09:32
DaemonFCB-)Apr 17 09:32
DaemonFCthis allows FGLRX to work on custom 2.6.38 kernels without the BKL or with 2.6.39 kernels (which have no BKL)Apr 17 09:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Switching to #Bing in #Firefox 4 - Easier than Ever - http://bit.ly/i6O1p1 should #google be worried?Apr 17 09:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] I must thank "Gary" for his views on the Theme by Forged Web Creations -I'll pass that on. Oh and Gary, learn how Wordpress.com hosts blogs.Apr 17 09:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Now, as well as being an Openbytes reader and regular TechBytes listener - I wonder, does Gary follow me on identi.ca and Twitter? Lets see!Apr 17 09:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Asa Dotzler: Firefox and more: Switching to Bing in Firefox 4 - Easier than Ever .::. Size~: 17.41 KBApr 17 09:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] And for everyone else - Yes, I am baiting trolls this morning.....wanting some material exampling Microsoft advocacy.Apr 17 09:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] (another) pic of the week: built up - http://bit.ly/fjG3Hv Prince of Persia for the 21st century? #london #pixApr 17 09:45
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DaemonFCMinceR, I'm making readmes for my patchset that I've cobbled togetherApr 17 09:49
DaemonFC"This patch covers up some of the problems in applications like VLC, MPlayer, and to a lesser degree, GStreamer, by forcing the HDA driver to preallocate a 4 second buffer for all audio streams. By definition, this will inevitably cause seeking delays, but at least your audio won't pop and skip."Apr 17 09:49
DaemonFC"Fedora is carrying this patch and so is Ubuntu, it may go upstream eventually because they can't just admit that Pulseaudio is a terrible idea and fix ALSA instead. "Apr 17 09:49
DaemonFCheheApr 17 09:50
asdfas2wefwFreescale netbook:Apr 17 09:52
asdfas2wefwhttp://semiaccurate.com/2011/03/31/hercules-launches-freescale-powered-netbooks/Apr 17 09:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] Hmmmm, what should I think of these new #Tabula #ABAX 3PLD devices?!? !fpgaApr 17 09:56
oiaohmDaemonFC: were is that 4 second quote from.Apr 17 10:08
DaemonFCthe patch Apr 17 10:09
MinceRDaemonFC: so the mainline Linux kernel will eventually include 4s lag in audio output?Apr 17 10:09
oiaohmOk the linus look at this and run comment.Apr 17 10:09
MinceRthat's hardly saneApr 17 10:09
oiaohmNow it explains why jack guys have been complaining.Apr 17 10:10
oiaohmabout HDA on particular platforms.Apr 17 10:10
DaemonFCThis allows for buffering of up to 4 seconds of audio. This isApr 17 10:12
DaemonFCintended to improve the audio experience. This patch is beingApr 17 10:12
DaemonFCcarried by Fedora but is not upstream.Apr 17 10:12
DaemonFCSigned-off-by: Brad Figg <brad.figg@canonical.com>Apr 17 10:12
DaemonFCSigned-off-by: Andy Whitcroft <apw@canonical.com>Apr 17 10:12
DaemonFCMinceR, It's not sane, you're rightApr 17 10:14
DaemonFCin fact, it causes as many problems as it fixesApr 17 10:14
DaemonFCI may just give up and drop itApr 17 10:14
DaemonFCI think they fixed a BIOS problem that affects the computer of a friend of mineApr 17 10:23
DaemonFCso I'll have to nudge him and ask him to try this kernel outApr 17 10:23
MinceRgeekingsApr 17 10:28
DaemonFCweb browser @ 1920 x 1080Apr 17 10:29
DaemonFCstill having the zomg effect on meApr 17 10:29
DaemonFCthis is like when I went from one of those crappy 17" CRTs to that LCDApr 17 10:30
DaemonFCall over againApr 17 10:30
oiaohmDaemonFC: Maybe fedora is waiting on better realtime support.  DaemonFCApr 17 10:31
DaemonFCmehApr 17 10:32
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schestowitz1080 is lowApr 17 10:32
DaemonFCI think fixing one problem with a patch that creates several others is badApr 17 10:32
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schestowitzI tried a couple of these for a while, use 1200 height for 24''Apr 17 10:32
DaemonFCschestowitz, My last one was 1680 x 1050Apr 17 10:33
DaemonFC:)Apr 17 10:33
DaemonFCand before that, it was a 17" CRT @ 1280 x 1024Apr 17 10:33
DaemonFCand if we go back yet again, it was a 15" CRT @ 1024 x 768Apr 17 10:34
DaemonFCewwwwApr 17 10:34
oiaohmMy old 15 CRT could do 1920x1080Apr 17 10:34
oiaohmBefore it died.Apr 17 10:34
DaemonFCI want to know why these people pack in VGA cables with a nice monitorApr 17 10:35
oiaohmIt was very good to  have a magnifiying lens in front of it.Apr 17 10:35
DaemonFCthat should be a crimeApr 17 10:35
oiaohmWorse is no cables.  DaemonFCApr 17 10:35
DaemonFCmost video cards don't even have a VGA port on them anymoreApr 17 10:35
DaemonFCbecause it costs more to support itApr 17 10:35
DaemonFCso actually the cheap cards went that way firstApr 17 10:35
DaemonFCinstead you get this little DVI to VGA dongle Apr 17 10:36
*DaemonFC barfsApr 17 10:36
DaemonFCthat's like Fine Italian Restaurant to Spaghetti-O's conversionApr 17 10:36
DaemonFCB-)Apr 17 10:36
oiaohmReally electronically its no different.Apr 17 10:37
oiaohmthe dongle are just straight threws.Apr 17 10:37
DaemonFCI ripped out the AGP and VGA Arbiter crap from my kernel because they tend to spew in ugly kernel messagesApr 17 10:37
DaemonFCand I don't even have an AGP port or a card that supports VGAApr 17 10:38
DaemonFCI can't stand that shit that the kernel tries to load that goes "Well, shit, nothing like that in this system, cya!"Apr 17 10:38
DaemonFCLike, oh pardon me, I'm just here to add a couple seconds to your boot and spew crap into your kernel logApr 17 10:39
DaemonFChave a nice day now!Apr 17 10:39
DaemonFCB-)Apr 17 10:39
DaemonFCso I try to watch out for those things and prune them whenever I see something like thatApr 17 10:39
DaemonFCand speaking of module bloatApr 17 10:40
DaemonFCwhy the hell are there still dedicated Ext2 and Ext3 drivers?Apr 17 10:40
DaemonFCExt3 can mount Ext2, and Ext4 can mount Ext2 and Ext3Apr 17 10:40
DaemonFCso lets have duplicate modules for what's essentially different levels of the same filesystemApr 17 10:41
DaemonFCbetter yet, build them into the kernel imageApr 17 10:41
DaemonFC:DApr 17 10:41
DaemonFCactually, you'll see better performance of an Ext3 file system under the Ext4 driver even if you don't make any on-disk changesApr 17 10:42
DaemonFCthere's lots of things that are in the kernel that are "What the HELL is this!?!?" kitchen sink type crapApr 17 10:43
MinceRbut will you see the same reliability?Apr 17 10:43
DaemonFCand that's stuff that Linus did review :)Apr 17 10:43
MinceRext4 wasn't tested for that longApr 17 10:43
oiaohmDecated ext2 and ext3 drivers are about 100 percent producing that standard.Apr 17 10:43
DaemonFCMinceR, Yes, same reliability Apr 17 10:44
oiaohmIf you notice ext1 is gone.  DaemonFCApr 17 10:44
oiaohmDaemonFC: was not always the same reliablityApr 17 10:44
DaemonFCyou can turn off any Ext4 in-memory features that you don't want in use on your Ext3 file systemApr 17 10:44
oiaohmIts not been proven that way for 12 months.Apr 17 10:44
DaemonFCso you can have it as slow and shitty as Ext3 wasApr 17 10:44
DaemonFCeven without the Ext3 driverApr 17 10:44
MinceR'slow as shitty' is your way of saying "more reliable than blackholefs"?Apr 17 10:45
MinceR:>Apr 17 10:45
oiaohmExt4 also support extras in the disk struct that Ext3 does not.Apr 17 10:45
DaemonFCI think you might not be able to turn off the multiblock allocatorApr 17 10:45
DaemonFCbut who would want to?Apr 17 10:45
DaemonFCdo you like Ext3 calling the block allocator 500,000 times to save 10 MB to the disk?Apr 17 10:45
DaemonFCI don't :)Apr 17 10:45
DaemonFCactually, I see that as a design flaw of Ext3, possibly the biggestApr 17 10:46
DaemonFCdefinitely one of the biggestApr 17 10:46
DaemonFC:)Apr 17 10:46
DaemonFCbecause it causes a shitload of CPU overheadApr 17 10:46
DaemonFCand slows down the filesystem writes by a lotApr 17 10:46
DaemonFCit's one of the reasons I've always used XFSApr 17 10:46
DaemonFCbecause Ext3 is the worst file system I've ever come across with the exception of FATApr 17 10:47
DaemonFC:DApr 17 10:47
oiaohmThis is what screwed you Break 32,000 subdirectory limit << Ext2 and ext3 only support up to 32000 subdirectories.  DaemonFCApr 17 10:47
DaemonFCI don't think most people make 32,001 or more subdirectoriesApr 17 10:47
oiaohmExt4 filesystem driver will auto update a old ext2 or ext3 to support that.Apr 17 10:47
DaemonFCso no real person will ever hit that problem anywayApr 17 10:48
oiaohmHeeeApr 17 10:48
oiaohmDistribution builders.  DaemonFCApr 17 10:48
DaemonFCExt2/3 are just bullshitApr 17 10:48
DaemonFCpure and simpleApr 17 10:48
oiaohmYes unpacking all those source files can create one hell number fo directories.Apr 17 10:48
oiaohmThere is an issue between Ext2 and Ext3 as well.Apr 17 10:49
DaemonFCthey're too damned slow, they are limited not only by the directory limit, but by time stamps, and what was it, the year 2038 problemApr 17 10:49
DaemonFCand the volume size limitationsApr 17 10:49
DaemonFC:)Apr 17 10:49
DaemonFCand lots of other thingsApr 17 10:49
oiaohmYes they are close yes they are forward compadible.Apr 17 10:49
oiaohmNo they are not backwards compadible.Apr 17 10:49
DaemonFCXFS can save dates well past the year 10,000Apr 17 10:50
oiaohmbtrfs also supports converting from Ext2 Ext3 and Ext4 to btrfsApr 17 10:50
DaemonFCso I don't see that ever becoming an issueApr 17 10:50
oiaohmbut in the process it nukes the past filesystem.Apr 17 10:50
DaemonFCbut it already is with Ext2/3 and ReiserFSApr 17 10:50
oiaohmPiece by piece.Apr 17 10:50
oiaohmNote that ext4 was only indented as a stop gap until btrfs works as well.Apr 17 10:51
DaemonFCmehApr 17 10:51
DaemonFCExt4 has some problems but it's very much improved over Ext3Apr 17 10:51
oiaohmHopefully Axe man will come for the Ext file systems at that time.Apr 17 10:51
DaemonFCI don't use it because XFS is still betterApr 17 10:51
DaemonFCbut it's not night and day like it was with Ext3 vs XFSApr 17 10:52
MinceRDaemonFC sure likes to wait for his files to be deletedApr 17 10:52
oiaohmdepends on what you are doing.Apr 17 10:52
DaemonFCmost people haven't seen XFS with delaylogApr 17 10:52
DaemonFCit flies right past Ext4Apr 17 10:52
oiaohmExt3 and Ext4 are faster than xfs at particular operations.Apr 17 10:52
DaemonFCin almost every situationApr 17 10:52
oiaohmReally we need a filesystem that is decent at everything.Apr 17 10:52
DaemonFCthat's the default mount option in Linux 2.6.39Apr 17 10:52
DaemonFCso a lot of people will see XFS speed up a lot, but I've been forcing this behavior since Linux 2.6.35Apr 17 10:53
MinceRis that like delayed allocation?Apr 17 10:53
DaemonFCdelaylog makes metadata operations in some cases 4-5 times fasterApr 17 10:53
MinceRi.e. lose/corrupt data that was written out if the system loses power or crashes? :>Apr 17 10:54
DaemonFCno, it waits to write to the journal until it has a certain amount of data to commitApr 17 10:54
DaemonFClike Ext4 doesApr 17 10:54
DaemonFCthey're basically the same feature it's just always been in Ext4Apr 17 10:54
MinceRdoes it also wait to write the actual data?Apr 17 10:54
MinceRor does that get written before the metadata?Apr 17 10:54
DaemonFCI meant metadataApr 17 10:54
DaemonFCneither one writes data to the journalApr 17 10:55
DaemonFCExt4 can but you must force itApr 17 10:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nisshh/@nisshh] My brother just showed me Grooveshark, screw last.fm, use grooveshark.Apr 17 10:55
MinceRhm, actually it has to be anywayApr 17 10:55
DaemonFCand you then lose persistent preallocationApr 17 10:55
DaemonFCan ddelayed allocationApr 17 10:55
DaemonFCMinceR, Where you risk data loss with XFS is not with the defaults really or with delaylog forced on with pre .39 kernelsApr 17 10:56
oiaohmxfs lot of small file alterations use to drive it into slow.Apr 17 10:56
DaemonFCit's when you start telling it to buffer insane amounts of journal dataApr 17 10:56
DaemonFClike logbufs=8,logbsize=256kApr 17 10:56
DaemonFCthat will cause some damage in an unclean shutdownApr 17 10:56
DaemonFCespecially with delayed logging onApr 17 10:56
DaemonFC:)Apr 17 10:56
DaemonFC/dev/sda2 on / type xfs (rw,inode64,noikeep,attr2)Apr 17 10:57
DaemonFCthat's my mount optionsApr 17 10:57
DaemonFCbecause delaylog is the default behavior in Linux 2.6.39Apr 17 10:57
DaemonFCMinceR, delaylog + logbufs=8 + logbsize=256k is asking for itApr 17 10:59
DaemonFCB-)Apr 17 10:59
DaemonFCbecause it batches out journal commits, considers them commited because they're in a memory bufferApr 17 10:59
DaemonFCand doesn't write things out until that HUGE buffer is fullApr 17 10:59
DaemonFC:)Apr 17 10:59
DaemonFCso you're basically asking it to please risk about 10 times as much data at any given timeApr 17 11:00
DaemonFCshould the system go downApr 17 11:00
DaemonFCit's fast because it's not committing things to the journal in a timely mannerApr 17 11:00
DaemonFCoh, and th benefits of logbufs=8,logbsize=256k are not hugeApr 17 11:02
DaemonFCmaybe makes write operations 1-5% fasterApr 17 11:02
DaemonFCso it's not worth using them considering the minimal performance gain and the huge data loss riskApr 17 11:03
DaemonFCoiaohm, BtrFS is still really slowApr 17 11:03
DaemonFCI'm not all that psyched about itApr 17 11:04
DaemonFCit's barely any faster now than it was 2 years agoApr 17 11:04
DaemonFCI mean there's benchmarks saying it is, but it still glacial on my system, with or without compressionApr 17 11:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Launchpad Blog: Launchpad is on Facebook http://bit.ly/dTkIb1Apr 17 11:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Furious Greeks press for country to default on debt - http://bit.ly/hjGqsj sad to see; other countries to follow into ungovernability?Apr 17 11:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Having a spate of the "can't-be-bothered's". Gonna bail for a while.Apr 17 11:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Launchpad Blog http://ow.ly/4BVI9 « Apparently it's now on Facebok (I haven't looked yet)Apr 17 11:43
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DaemonFChttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/04/12/adblock_plus_man_pushes_back_on_mozilla_add_on_performance_tests/Apr 17 11:45
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DaemonFCI'd rather have a 21% slower startup time than ads and popups everywhereApr 17 11:46
DaemonFCeven if it was trueApr 17 11:46
DaemonFCsites bitch about people loading adblock plugins, but sites like Phoronix have more ads than most porn sites I thinkApr 17 11:47
DaemonFCand if they cleaned it up a bit, less people would botherApr 17 11:47
schestowitzYeahApr 17 11:48
schestowitzMy Firefox is slow but pages load up cleanly without the junk Apr 17 11:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] thomas.apestaart.org » Mac userfriendliness [questioned] http://ow.ly/4BVKLApr 17 11:48
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DaemonFCI'd hardly call a Mac user friendly Apr 17 11:50
DaemonFCtheir video drivers are behind even the free software stack on LinuxApr 17 11:50
DaemonFCthey didn't even support occlusion query until last yearApr 17 11:51
DaemonFCpeople want to know why Windows games never get ported to the Mac lately should take a look at the video drivers on the MacApr 17 11:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Losca: !MeeGo Summit FI Days 1 & 2 http://ping.fm/71zJQApr 17 11:51
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DaemonFCthey're not capable of most OpenGL featuresApr 17 11:52
DaemonFCso of course less places are going to bother porting thingsApr 17 11:52
DaemonFCApple has such a control freakery issue that they won't just use the nvidia and fglrx unix modulesApr 17 11:52
DaemonFCinstead they get card specs under NDA and write their own pathetic in-house driversApr 17 11:53
DaemonFCthat's also why OpenCL support is badApr 17 11:54
DaemonFCeven though the nvidia and fglrx unix modules both support itApr 17 11:54
DaemonFCCrapple won't use themApr 17 11:54
DaemonFCschestowitz, I have a hard time swallowing this Wayland bullshitApr 17 11:55
DaemonFCI call it bullshit because it's essentially copying OS XApr 17 11:55
DaemonFCdumbed down display manager hauling around braindead rootless X serverApr 17 11:55
MinceRa GUI where you can't even maximize windows is "userfriendly"? bullshit.Apr 17 12:06
DaemonFCit's sad, but even FGLRX on Linux is better than Apple's Radeon driverApr 17 12:07
schestowitzuser-fiendlyApr 17 12:07
DaemonFCMozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:5.0a2) Gecko/20110416 Firefox/5.0a2Apr 17 12:08
DaemonFChehApr 17 12:08
DaemonFCMinceR, They took away maximize and minimize because these might confuse peopleApr 17 12:11
DaemonFC(GNOME 3)Apr 17 12:11
DaemonFC:DApr 17 12:11
DaemonFCMade of FrustrationApr 17 12:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !KDE Activities and Virtual Desktops and The Cube « claydoh's blog of ill repute http://ping.fm/LvEUHApr 17 12:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @andyc: !tinap This Is Not A Podcast: Episode 3 - 'My Unicycle Has A Puncture' with special guest @thistleweb. http://ur1.ca/3vgm8Apr 17 12:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @rms: Locked To Google http://ur1.ca/3vgksApr 17 12:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Finishing up this edit of !LO 201.Apr 17 12:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] LOL! Laughing at the #tinap schematics drawn by @andyc. Why is @davidmarsden talking into a huge penis to record the show??? :DApr 17 12:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] [The phrase ‘keeping an eye on’ is © Linux Outlaws and appears with kind permission of Dan.] ROFL! @methoddanApr 17 12:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] reviewing CS questions is a good refresher for things like dichotomy and time complexitiesApr 17 12:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Still trying to find decent mouse cursors for Xfce in Arch. PackageKit is broken and pacman -Ss isn't helping.....Apr 17 12:55
cubezzzok finally found the article I was looking for Apr 17 12:58
cubezzzschestowitz, this may be of some interestApr 17 12:58
cubezzzhttp://groups.google.com/group/net.micro/browse_thread/thread/9e8efc7fd71be471/6d8379685c3ad380?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=stallman+communist#6d8379685c3ad380Apr 17 12:59
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cubezzzscroll down past the manifesto partApr 17 12:59
cubezzzBrad Templeton was an old commodore personApr 17 13:00
cubezzzcalling RMS a communist back in 1985Apr 17 13:01
cubezzzalso sometimes you can search google groups and _not_ see that messageApr 17 13:02
schestowitzHehApr 17 13:02
schestowitzThen he did EFFApr 17 13:02
schestowitzand other thingsApr 17 13:03
cubezzzwould EFF and FSF be at odds to you think?Apr 17 13:06
cubezzzto=doApr 17 13:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Audacity 1.3.13 Improves The Open Audio Scene: It's just not open-source graphics programs dropping new releases... http://bit.ly/eryAf9Apr 17 13:10
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cubezzzI guess notApr 17 13:10
cubezzzStallman was at EFF-AustinApr 17 13:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Mixing down LO 201....Apr 17 13:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Enjoyed !tinap 3. I follow running order as well. Hilarious that @dickturpin thought you recorded to running order times :-)Apr 17 13:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Convinced that 50% of the popularity of #Arch in geek circles is the fact that pacman's flags read like incantations for the Elder Gods.Apr 17 13:18
koolhead17RMS RMSApr 17 13:19
koolhead17that reminds its been long time i mailed him :(Apr 17 13:20
koolhead17schestowitz Apr 17 13:21
DaemonFCthankfully SecuROM is stupidApr 17 13:24
DaemonFCit detects Wine as a debugger, but if you map a drive letter to the disc mount point in Wine, it satisfies SecuROM that there is a disc in the driveApr 17 13:25
DaemonFCand it lets you go ahead and install B-)Apr 17 13:25
DaemonFCleave it to Sony to sell DRM that a 5 year old with an etch a sketch could work aroundApr 17 13:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] Ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch oh the pain! It's mornings like this that amputation looks like an option. #painApr 17 13:28
schestowitzkoolhead17: what about?Apr 17 13:29
schestowitzI think I last mailel Brad around 200Apr 17 13:30
schestowitzI think I last mailel Brad around 2004Apr 17 13:30
schestowitzit was about his multi-head wallpapers/photosApr 17 13:30
DaemonFCschestowitz said the w wordApr 17 13:31
koolhead17schestowitz just about his well being :)Apr 17 13:31
DaemonFCschestowitz, Ubuntu has new wallpaperApr 17 13:31
DaemonFCit makes your PC fasterApr 17 13:31
DaemonFCand more usefulApr 17 13:31
DaemonFCB-)Apr 17 13:31
koolhead17DaemonFC: when did wallpaper resulted in faster PCApr 17 13:31
koolhead17?Apr 17 13:31
DaemonFCsame way decals make a teenager's Honda Civic fasterApr 17 13:32
DaemonFC:)Apr 17 13:32
koolhead17hahaApr 17 13:32
koolhead17schestowitz does M$ pays to the hw vendors to ship only there shit and not gnu/linux?Apr 17 13:32
oiaohmDaemonFC: depends on the version of securerom.  Not all versions are support by wine.Apr 17 13:33
DaemonFCI used to think Gentoo were a bunch of idiot ricers, but at least their tweaking with cflags might have some influence on the resulting systemApr 17 13:33
DaemonFCUbuntu just changes the window controls and puts in a new wallpaperApr 17 13:33
oiaohmkoolhead17: M$ partly does with the Likes of MS Office Starter upgrade payments.Apr 17 13:33
DaemonFCand they drive the fanboys wildApr 17 13:33
oiaohmkoolhead17: The kickbacks these days are hidden in crapware.Apr 17 13:34
DaemonFCSony SuckitROMApr 17 13:34
*DaemonFC directs Sony to his junkApr 17 13:34
DaemonFCuh huhApr 17 13:34
schestowitzkoolhead17: like Intel does to AMDApr 17 13:35
koolhead17you mean the moneyApr 17 13:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @Falkvinge: Best of luck and good winds to the Finnish Pirate Party (#Piraattipuolue) in the elections today! #ppi #piratpartietApr 17 13:35
oiaohmkoolhead17: Almost every major maker of machines these days is making something Linux.Apr 17 13:35
schestowitzReverse-bribeApr 17 13:35
schestowitzBy discountsApr 17 13:35
oiaohmkoolhead17: MS 100 percent exculsive is lost Apr 17 13:35
schestowitz"We don't bribe them, we incentivise them not to stock our competition"Apr 17 13:35
DaemonFCMS Office Starter really doesn't do much, in many ways MS Works was a better word processorApr 17 13:35
DaemonFCI played around with Office Starter for a few minutes on a PC at Best BuyApr 17 13:36
oiaohmDaemonFC: everyone who upgrades a MS Office Starter pays a oem who installed it money.  Apr 17 13:36
DaemonFCI'd be happier if they threw in AbiWord and GNUmericApr 17 13:36
DaemonFCbut it's not about youApr 17 13:36
schestowitzkoolhead17: it's a 'free market' problemApr 17 13:36
DaemonFCit's about turning your PC into a system to pimp more of their waresApr 17 13:36
oiaohmDaemonFC: Note I call it crapware.Apr 17 13:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] Any party which has a Candidate who videos a porno for an ad isn't your old style political party. They'll get the youth vote :)Apr 17 13:36
DaemonFCit is crapwareApr 17 13:36
oiaohmDaemonFC: Its design not to work well.  Unless you pay money.Apr 17 13:36
DaemonFCit's less useful than freeware you can download in minutes from some websiteApr 17 13:37
DaemonFCand it's 50 times biggerApr 17 13:37
oiaohmDaemonFC: and if you do pay money the OEM who placed it their gets a kick back.Apr 17 13:37
koolhead17schestowitz i buy only ACER because i dont have to pay for the OSApr 17 13:37
oiaohmkoolhead17: do you still get the 90 day MS Windows trial install?Apr 17 13:37
DaemonFCMy stepdad was about to buy a new copy of MS Office, but I stopped him in timeApr 17 13:37
DaemonFCand slapped LibreOffice on his system to replace that aging Office XPApr 17 13:38
DaemonFC:PApr 17 13:38
koolhead17oiaohm: i get acer it comes with some other linux distroApr 17 13:38
DaemonFCthat guy just never throws anything away :)Apr 17 13:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @thetecheye: Mike Magee, you will never work in this industry again - Mike Magee #factApr 17 13:38
oiaohmkoolhead17: Ok one of the true cleans.Apr 17 13:38
DaemonFCit's the end result of software that costs next to nothing to copy being sold for hundreds of dollarsApr 17 13:39
koolhead17i like acer cos almost most of the models has option of linux osApr 17 13:39
DaemonFCpeople hang onto old copies for as long as they canApr 17 13:39
DaemonFC:PApr 17 13:39
oiaohmDaemonFC: Its why I like the open source model where you pay coders for features.Apr 17 13:39
oiaohmDaemonFC: at least you don't get ripped off that way.Apr 17 13:39
koolhead17i hope one day we get the choice by all HW vendors on desktop/laptop arenaApr 17 13:40
koolhead17:)Apr 17 13:40
koolhead17i have no interest in buying HP/DELL and paying MFST for the OS Apr 17 13:40
DaemonFCwell, holding out on Office XP makes no sense at allApr 17 13:40
DaemonFCeven if all you care about is Microsoft formatsApr 17 13:40
DaemonFCLibreOffice handles those betterApr 17 13:40
oiaohmkoolhead17: HP and Dell both have Linux workstations but they are down right expensive bits of hardware.Apr 17 13:40
DaemonFCbecause you probably have to buy some super expensive support contractApr 17 13:41
koolhead17hahaApr 17 13:41
koolhead17i am yet to see a dell/hp store with a gnu/linux on showcaseApr 17 13:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] Liberal Candidate @Carolyn_Bennett blames snow on @pmharper - come on Carolyn, you can't blame everything on him! #elxn41Apr 17 13:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] RT @alek "If you're not embarrassed by your 1st release, you're doing it wrong." thanks @thornet for the needed reminder! #centrumcyfroweApr 17 13:41
koolhead17they will have all MSFT thereApr 17 13:41
oiaohmkoolhead17: I am meaning the serous machines.Apr 17 13:42
DaemonFCyeah, they get kickbacks, and if that doesn't work, they get threatsApr 17 13:42
DaemonFCthat's why all you see is WindowsApr 17 13:42
oiaohmThe ones you find with duel cpu or quad cpu for a desktop with dual video cards reasonable quality.   koolhead17Apr 17 13:42
koolhead17oiaohm: my concern is about desktop marketApr 17 13:42
oiaohmIe workstations they have Linux versions.Apr 17 13:42
oiaohmBut they are not your general desktop puppies.Apr 17 13:42
koolhead17;-)Apr 17 13:43
oiaohmI think dell has a android mobile phone out.Apr 17 13:43
DaemonFCLinux 2.6.39 still has yet to crash meApr 17 13:43
DaemonFCand I've been using it since before rc1Apr 17 13:43
DaemonFCthis has to be the most stable development kernel everApr 17 13:43
oiaohmThreaded irq handling on ?  DaemonFCApr 17 13:44
DaemonFCoiaohm, I noticed that XFS no longer puts you to sleep when deleting a kernel source treeApr 17 13:44
oiaohmSo irq handlers can crash without taken the complete system down.Apr 17 13:44
DaemonFCthat was really the only thing that I ever really saw it faqil atApr 17 13:44
DaemonFC*failApr 17 13:44
oiaohmthreaded irq handles is a new feature in 2.6.39  DaemonFCApr 17 13:45
DaemonFCyes, I noticed some pretty well rounded improvementsApr 17 13:45
oiaohmAnnoyly NT had it firstApr 17 13:45
DaemonFCin responsiveness and file system throughputApr 17 13:45
DaemonFCXFS is a beast on this kernel B-)Apr 17 13:46
oiaohmFilesystem that clean up is only half done.  DaemonFCApr 17 13:46
oiaohm2.6.40 could be interesting.Apr 17 13:46
DaemonFCXFS has had some really huge amounts of work done on it latelyApr 17 13:46
DaemonFCboth in .38 and .39Apr 17 13:46
DaemonFCI like it :)Apr 17 13:47
oiaohmMostly as part of the vfs clean up.Apr 17 13:47
DaemonFCover the past few years they've been deleting a lot of xfs-specific features from the xfs driverApr 17 13:48
DaemonFCand pointing it at the corresponding vfs implementationApr 17 13:48
oiaohmAs the vfs clean up patches have been applied xfs has been dieing the most of all filesystem drivers.Apr 17 13:48
DaemonFCso the xfs driver is shrinking faster than it is growingApr 17 13:48
oiaohmMost filesystem drivers are shrinking.Apr 17 13:48
Ender2070btrfs is better stillApr 17 13:48
oiaohmParticularlly as driver internal cache systems are being deleted.Apr 17 13:49
oiaohmYes I don't know how come filesystem driver makers got the idea that in driver caching was better than global.Apr 17 13:49
DaemonFCso basically, the more they rip out that's unique to that filesystem, and point it to vfs instead, the less buggy all of them will end up beingApr 17 13:49
DaemonFCbecause you fix a bug once in the vfsApr 17 13:49
DaemonFCand it applies to every filesystem Apr 17 13:49
DaemonFCthat's my understanding anywayApr 17 13:50
oiaohmGot it right.  DaemonFCApr 17 13:50
oiaohmIts happening in each subsystem of the kernel infact.Apr 17 13:50
DaemonFCyeah, really it's stupid to have code duplication like that in every file systemApr 17 13:51
DaemonFCand that's the whole point of vfsApr 17 13:52
Ender2070just like those fixes are making btrfs better tooApr 17 13:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] Part of the video involves a meeting. They used paper faces with the mouths cut out so that their lips protrude. It looks like it is a...Apr 17 13:53
DaemonFCyeah, btrfs has a lot of things I don't need and it's fairly slowApr 17 13:54
DaemonFCand that hasn't much improved at all since it got mergedApr 17 13:54
DaemonFCthat's why I think it's basically pointless to use it in the state it's in right nowApr 17 13:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] @zotz @bkuhn because users do have an interest and so should have standing in my view.Apr 17 13:55
DaemonFCunless you just want a slow filesystem without proper grub support and no repair toolsApr 17 13:55
DaemonFCOK, use it with LILO, it's still slow with no repair toolsApr 17 13:56
DaemonFCI am so not liking btrfsApr 17 13:56
DaemonFCI don't see how it could be fit for Fedora to make it default in F16Apr 17 13:56
DaemonFCalthough they have shipped broken shit that wasn't usable before (KDE 4.0)Apr 17 13:57
DaemonFCso I won't put it past themApr 17 13:57
DaemonFCis there a make btrfs not suck patch in their queue that I haven't seen?Apr 17 13:57
oiaohmFedora is the half broken testing ground.Apr 17 14:01
oiaohmSo shipping with btrfs early is perfect.Apr 17 14:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] You know, as much as I hate the Wings, that deke by Datsyk was AMAZING! Oo !NHLApr 17 14:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Italy: Anselmi: 'Sia benedetto Wikileaks' (video) http://is.gd/nML8ZVApr 17 14:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @andyc !tinap This Is Not A Podcast: Episode 3 - 'My Unicycle Has A Puncture' with special guest @thistleweb. http://ur1.ca/3vgm8Apr 17 14:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @Falkvinge: on #infopolicy: Column: Monopoly Lawyers Shouldn’t Write Monopoly Laws http://goo.gl/fb/drZ7PApr 17 14:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @windigo: Better feed my cat, before she wastes away to the size of a normal cat...Apr 17 14:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] starting live coverage of #superbike race 2 (but cannot join group WTF)Apr 17 14:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @ratholeradio: I've added Paypal (at request) for virtual tickets to http://ratholeradio.org/gig For those outside the UK who want to suppApr 17 14:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Stefano Tacconi, former Juve and Italian national team keeper, says he's Berger's motivation coach - quite in the back of the grid.Apr 17 14:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks/@wikileaks] wikileaks: Sued for torture: the Whitehouse's Egyptian favorite, Omar Suleiman http://abc.net.au/news/stories/20... http://bit.ly/gDTC2EApr 17 14:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] #superbike RC1 podium was Jonny Rea, Max Biaggi and Carlos Checa. Bet for RC2 Checa, Rea, Melandri, Biaggi. Keep noteApr 17 14:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks/@wikileaks] wikileaks: Italy: Anselmi: 'Sia benedetto Wikileaks' (video) http://is.gd/nML8ZV http://bit.ly/fME4mbApr 17 14:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Racer ready to start #superbikeApr 17 14:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] #superbike off they go! Haga in the lead by three bikesApr 17 14:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Melandri overtakes Rea, Checa is on Biaggi #superbikeApr 17 14:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Biaggi ingarellato tails Haga and is a close second by now #superbikeApr 17 14:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] "ingarellato" is the equivalent of "berserk" in bike racing terms. #superbikeApr 17 14:55
_Goblinschestowitz: Roy, if you want to record tonight, can it be around 8pm......i'll be back by thenApr 17 14:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Rea is getting close to the top, while Checa jumps over Biaggi. Great race so far! #superbikeApr 17 14:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] And Checa is in the lead!!! Haga tries to hang on, but no way, the Spanish is simply too fast #superbikeApr 17 14:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] And Checa is in the lead!!! Haga tries to hang on, but no way, the Spanish is simply too fast #superbikeApr 17 14:56
schestowitzaSure!Apr 17 14:57
schestowitzSureApr 17 14:57
_Goblin:)Apr 17 14:57
_Goblingot a nice couple of topics for tonight..Apr 17 14:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] ♻ @c0y0t3: La gente no quiere todo gratis, quiere libertad tinyurl.com/4yp4kza !eol #nolesvotesApr 17 14:58
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_Goblinlol...Apr 17 14:59
_Goblinare you wanting to video tonight?Apr 17 14:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Melandri is closing the gap with the first 3 (Checa, Biaggi, Rea) #superbikeApr 17 15:00
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schestowitz_Goblin: episode 40, we might as well...Apr 17 15:01
schestowitzwe'll treat that as experimental  in this oneApr 17 15:01
_Goblinright...although....that may change things slightly.....Apr 17 15:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Melandri is in the tail of Rea #superbike Battle ahead!Apr 17 15:01
_Goblinno music and also possibly a very short show....Apr 17 15:02
_GoblinI'll explain when we contactApr 17 15:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] And finally I was able to join !superbike group! ;-)Apr 17 15:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Now the duels are Biaggi on Checa and Melandri on Rea !superbike - and Corser is again on his feet (not a great weekend for BMW)Apr 17 15:05
schestowitzSureApr 17 15:06
schestowitzAs I said, doing just a 10-minute should be fineApr 17 15:06
schestowitz*epApr 17 15:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] The heat has considerably dropped and now the race is a waiting game !superbikeApr 17 15:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] The former SAF general's mannerisms (or speech style) is not going to win anyone. Very low in EQ. Drop the rank. Meaningless! #sgelectionApr 17 15:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Biaggi is pressing hard to keep the pace of Checa, but his style is not as clean as it used to be. It's all in his head, I think. !superbikeApr 17 15:10
oiaohmhttp://www.blender.org/development/release-logs/blender-257/  The splash screen here has to be the most odd one I have seen in blenders complete history.Apr 17 15:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Biaggi has problems, but Checa is not able to break away. !superbikeApr 17 15:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Only 8 laps to go and no real breakthrough for a while !superbikeApr 17 15:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] #Bitcoin: Imagine a net without intermediaries http://ow.ly/4BYujApr 17 15:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Checa seems to be faster in the final part of the track. Biaggi cannot open the gas too much without losing the rear. !superbikeApr 17 15:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Melandri is not racing anymore. A slide., damnit! !superbikeApr 17 15:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Pissed off by Melandri's crash. Until now my forecast was only in the wrong order for 2nd-4th.Apr 17 15:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] what does a "mayor" do in Singapore? It is yet another meaningless title and shows where the PAP has failed. #sgelectionApr 17 15:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Checa was wide on the final chicane and Biaggi is in the lead! !superbikeApr 17 15:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Only 3 laps to go and Checa seems to be unable to regain the lead. But wait until the end. !superbikeApr 17 15:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] RT @metacode Dive into Python 3 http://diveintopython3.org PDF 495p (cc @kamon @gamelmag @nsisodiya) #FOSS #ICT4DApr 17 15:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Checa forces on Biaggi, and is inside: what an overtake by Checa!!! !superbikeApr 17 15:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Gigantic Checa! Racing is not just being fast. !superbikeApr 17 15:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Checa WINS !superbikeApr 17 15:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] What a final lap! Checa has learned a lot from Valentino Rossi on how to destroy another pilot's mind. Biaggi's worst nightmare. !superbikeApr 17 15:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] And this closes my coverage. Now time to take the bike for a ride. Great Checa, good race by Biaggi. !superbike GoodbyeApr 17 15:30
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/71243380Apr 17 15:31
TechrightsBot-tr@Goblin (openbytes)'s status on Sunday, 17-Apr-11 13:55:19 UTC - Identi.ca: @thistleweb I hope we will be recording later on tonight...about 8pm I'd guess...I will send this to @schestowitz alsoApr 17 15:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @mo6020: Tempted to get NSFW tattooed on my knuckles. Better steer clear of tattoo parlours whilst drunk for a while, then...Apr 17 15:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Open-Source Web-Sites, Memories Of The Past: The forum discussion surrounding TransGaming's GameTree Linux and C... http://bit.ly/eanUKMApr 17 15:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @dduane: Cool! The Game of Thrones viewer's guide: http://bit.ly/g1ZTjgApr 17 15:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] 87.91% Of Canadian Facebook Users Think Contempt Charge Of Substance To Canadian Election: http://bit.ly/f4MBj9 #elxn41 #cdnpoliApr 17 15:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] I hope the former SAF general mentioned here - http://ur1.ca/3vjhf - gets training in humility, history lessons and analogies. #sgelectionApr 17 16:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @themadhatter 87.91% Of Canadian Facebook Users Think Contempt Charge Of Substance To Canadian Election: http://bit.ly/f4MBj9 #elxn4 ...Apr 17 16:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @dickturpin: ♺ @nybill: Happy Birthday @biglesp!Apr 17 16:08
*amarsh04 notes that the voting rate in Canada is way below 87.91 %Apr 17 16:18
schestowitzeven fewer use FBApr 17 16:19
schestowitzDon't let generalisations and false correlations stand in the way of good headlines ;-)Apr 17 16:20
amarsh04what's the old line? "correlation does not imply causation"Apr 17 16:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Apagar el equipo en Gnome Shell http://bit.ly/fxyNdPApr 17 16:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @digimer: 299 days in jail, 54 days since 5/7 charges tossed, court stalling transcripts so no Bail App. #FreeByron is #PoliticalPrisonerApr 17 16:26
schestowitz"Among those who decided that they are willing to respond to a survey, having been approached in site X at time Y, the survey showed Z"Apr 17 16:26
schestowitzamarsh04: gotta love "Fox News" surveys...Apr 17 16:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] New Way to Control Magnetic Properties of Graphene Discovered http://ur1.ca/3vjrp !scienceApr 17 16:28
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twitterMicrosoft managed to link the two.  Icons and fancy wallpapers in Windows can slow things down.  It makes Windows users afraid to do anything and suspicious of systems that look nice. -> koolhead17: DaemonFC: when did wallpaper resulted in faster PCApr 17 16:55
Diablo-D3XP used to slow down desktop drawing if the wallpaper wasnt natively sized.Apr 17 16:56
Diablo-D3(ie, scaling; repeating and centering wasnt effected)Apr 17 16:56
Diablo-D3vista/7 doesnt suffer from thatApr 17 16:56
Diablo-D3and nothing with real hardware ever noticed itApr 17 16:56
twitterActiveX was a pig.Apr 17 16:57
Diablo-D3wait, why start blaming activex hereApr 17 16:57
twitterTurning it on was the only way to use other image formats to make pretty desktops for 98 and XP.Apr 17 16:57
Diablo-D3what is this, windows 98 and the new msie internet desktop?Apr 17 16:57
schestowitzActiev Desktop?Apr 17 16:57
twitterrightApr 17 16:57
schestowitzwin98Apr 17 16:57
Diablo-D3we're not putting html pages as our damned backgrounds.Apr 17 16:57
twitterXP tooApr 17 16:57
koolhead17twitter: heyApr 17 16:58
koolhead17:PApr 17 16:58
schestowitzwow! ll@@k, we can run the browser in desktop canvas!! lolApr 17 16:58
twitterthe crap is probably still thereApr 17 16:58
schestowitzLinux can do a lot more of that, by using xApr 17 16:58
koolhead17all this while i thought twitter is botApr 17 16:58
koolhead17:)Apr 17 16:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] New breed of gagging order could send journalists to jail, MP claims - http://bit.ly/ijAQpF insane & dangerous (v @mikebutcher) #ukApr 17 16:58
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Diablo-D3nope, hes just some noobApr 17 16:58
twitternow called Aero, a  Vista performance scape goatApr 17 16:58
schestowitzVista has a selling point...Apr 17 16:58
schestowitzAnimated desktopApr 17 16:58
koolhead17schestowitz hahaApr 17 16:59
schestowitzWhich to this date nobody uses for obbvious reasonApr 17 16:59
koolhead17hahahahaApr 17 16:59
schestowitzThe hilarious thing is that you needed the expensive version of Vista to 'unlock' this 'feature'Apr 17 16:59
twitterE17 does a nice job of that ... like six years agoApr 17 16:59
koolhead17schestowitz am allready laughing my arse out. cant handle moreApr 17 16:59
koolhead17:)Apr 17 16:59
schestowitzkoolhead17: they didn't advertise this for Vista 7Apr 17 16:59
schestowitzIt's probably still there, thoughApr 17 16:59
koolhead17hahahahaApr 17 16:59
koolhead17OMG #failApr 17 17:00
twitterI've been around a lot longer than the micro blog.  http://slashdot.org/~twitter/journal/217907Apr 17 17:00
schestowitzVista 7 slogan is: buy it. It's not as bad as Vista./Apr 17 17:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Digitizing Balinese Lontars - http://bit.ly/fxRmJv wonderful use of technology to preserve culture #baliApr 17 17:00
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koolhead17nice meeting you twitter :)Apr 17 17:00
schestowitzImagine propping ubuntu up by saying that "it's not as bad as version-X" is a featureApr 17 17:00
twitterthanks, it's nice having people in IRCApr 17 17:01
koolhead17schestowitz thanks to you for all your effort. am enjoying this channelApr 17 17:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @vanden This morning, my #rockbox install broke. Blessing in disguise: today, they released a new version which fixed a bothersome bu ...Apr 17 17:01
koolhead17:)Apr 17 17:01
koolhead17its really buzzingApr 17 17:01
twitterGlen Moody made a modest proposal, that Google buy all the major music labels Apr 17 17:02
Roderickis more centralisation in google really such a great idea?Apr 17 17:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] pyrfeed - RSS/Atom Reader and Framework uses GoogleReader as a storage database http://ping.fm/mXRZJApr 17 17:03
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twittereliminating the music labels is a great ideaApr 17 17:03
twitterthey have done a lot of damageApr 17 17:03
Roderickno argument thereApr 17 17:03
twitterI doubt Google would be a worse owner than the present ones and they could make those idiot shut up.Apr 17 17:04
twitterMoody claims the labels are economically insignificant and easy to purchase.  Apr 17 17:05
Roderickthats true - i think the better way to go would be to change the laws that they use to become parasites, force them to be reasonable,Apr 17 17:06
Rodericki bet they don't feel that way - suing limewire for 75 trillion :PApr 17 17:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Monopoly Lawyers Shouldn’t Write Monopoly Laws - http://bit.ly/ez1imM #intellectualmonopolies have become legal extortion racketsApr 17 17:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] ♻ @glynmoody Tibetans under cyber attack - http://bit.ly/esEr1i haven't they learned from last time not to use #windows #tibetApr 17 17:06
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twitterif only the damage labels did were limited to music.  their laws hamper science, medicine and democracy itselfApr 17 17:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Scarcity, #Abundance, and the Knowledge Economy. Tightened Up. - http://bit.ly/fCVOql a key issue for future economics #copyrightApr 17 17:08
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twitterjournal paywalls are a terrible injustice and violate author intentApr 17 17:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @openbytes ♻ @glynmoody Tibetans under cyber attack - http://bit.ly/esEr1i haven't they learned from last time not to use #windows # ...Apr 17 17:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @glynmoody Monopoly Lawyers Shouldn’t Write Monopoly Laws - http://bit.ly/ez1imM #intellectualmonopolies have become legal extortion ...Apr 17 17:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] ♻ @glynmoody New breed of gagging order could send journalists to jail, MP claims - http://bit.ly/ijAQpF insane & dangerous #ukApr 17 17:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @glynmoody New breed of gagging order could send journalists to jail, MP claims - http://bit.ly/ijAQpF insane & dangerous (v @mikebut ...Apr 17 17:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Assange on the WikiLeaks & the Egyptian revolution http://alturl.com/x5pryApr 17 17:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Thank you, Mr Lee!: http://wp.me/pj2fj-q2 #sgelectionApr 17 17:13
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twitterah yes, there it is.  http://opendotdotdot.blogspot.com/2011/04/why-google-should-buy-music-industry.htmlApr 17 17:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[anivar/@anivar] anivar: Raipur Trail court will Prepare Bail papers. Binayak Should be out by tomorrow evening #binayaksen #trailApr 17 17:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[anivar/@anivar] anivar: @pranesh_prakash Thanks. I received them by SMS from various supporters of Dr.Sen present in Court . we live tweeted frm cour...Apr 17 17:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[anivar/@anivar] anivar: @BDUTT see the livetweets from courtroom at @binayaksen twitter accountApr 17 17:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[anivar/@anivar] anivar: Live tweets: DR BINAYAK SEN GRANTED #BAIL http://bit.ly/fbvWy4 #binayak sen #trailApr 17 17:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[anivar/@anivar] anivar: Binayak Sen is Trending in twitter worldwide http://twitter.com/#!/search/Binayak%20SenApr 17 17:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] Protip to Dems: Stop calling the wealthiest Americans "top earners"Apr 17 17:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @russellmcormond: I'm holding nose and voting candidate despite party, but the recent #LPC fear mongering ads are embarrassing .. #elxn41Apr 17 17:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @themadhatter Yes, I have 16GB on a Lacie key drive :) Deliberately went for small SSD to keep system compact.Apr 17 17:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @jkoblovsky: Youth voice important this election. Here's what some have been saying via youtube: http://bit.ly/eG9FUU #elxn41 #cdnpoliApr 17 17:30
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Jason Koblovsky - Independent Journalist: Letting the Youth Speak for Themselves .::. Size~: 65.36 KBApr 17 17:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] I must say that despite initial skepticism, #Unity on netbook is very clever. I doubt it brings advantages on a larger form factor thoughApr 17 17:36
twitterha ha http://paidcontent.org/article/419-righthavens-secret-contract-is-revealedwill-its-strategy-collapse/Apr 17 17:37
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Righthaven’s Secret Contract Revealed: Will Its Strategy Collapse?                                                    |  paidContent .::. Size~: 38.44 KBApr 17 17:37
twitterhttp://articles.economictimes.indiatimes.com/2011-04-14/news/29417583_1_economies-food-security-local-currenciesApr 17 17:56
TechrightsBot-trEmpty reply from server ( http://articles.economictimes.indiatimes.com/2011-04-14/news/29417583_1_economies-food-security-local-currencies )Apr 17 17:57
twitterwhat will the candles stick makers do?  http://www.geekwire.com/2011/rep-jesse-jackson-jr-antitech-rant-blames-ipad-killing-jobsApr 17 17:58
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr. goes on an anti-tech rant, blames the iPad for U.S. job losses - GeekWire .::. Size~: 79.13 KBApr 17 17:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Man, have to put a shitload of images in the show notes. All @methoddan's fault..... OoApr 17 18:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] @evan Just this morning I failed at making toast! Toaster timer runs and dings even while toaster not actually plugged in.Apr 17 18:00
twitterLong Dong envy?  http://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/china/2011-03/03/c_13759948.htmApr 17 18:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: China planning powerful carrier rocket for manned moon landing .::. Size~: 16.02 KBApr 17 18:01
twitter"It will even surpass the largest rocket ever built, the 119-tonne Saturn V."Apr 17 18:01
twitterIE 10 is not for Vista only Vista 7.  I wonder how they managed that, considering they are the same thing.  http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2383640,00.aspApr 17 18:03
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Internet Explorer 10 Drops Vista Support | News & Opinion  | PCMag.com .::. Size~: 83.27 KBApr 17 18:03
twitterick an asp Apr 17 18:03
twitterDoes M$ really think people care about IE?Apr 17 18:05
schestowitz!google olympics china bsodApr 17 18:08
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Olympic's Blue Screen Of Death Moment - Geekologie | http://www.geekologie.com/2008/08/post_44.phpApr 17 18:08
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Blue Screen of Death Strikes Bird's Nest During Opening Ceremonies ... | http://gizmodo.com/%23!5035456/blue-screen-of-death-strikes-birds-nest-during-opening-ceremonies-torch-lightingApr 17 18:08
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - BSOD Strikes During Beijing Olympic Games Opening Ceremony? Dvorak ... | http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/08/11/bsod-strikes-during-beijing-olympic-games-opening-ceremony/Apr 17 18:08
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Dreaded Blue Screen of Death strikes Olympics | Crave - CNET | http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-10015872-1.htmlApr 17 18:08
*schestowitz prepared daily linkApr 17 18:11
schestowitzThanks for the ie10 linlkApr 17 18:11
schestowitzI had one about it, added yours tooApr 17 18:11
schestowitzNow it's time to compare Firefox 4 to IE10 :-)Apr 17 18:12
twitterhow?  I suppose that I can try to run the Vista 7 image that I preserved from my daughter's netbook, but I'd rather not click "I agree" on a system outside of work.Apr 17 18:13
twitterIf I could make the image work in Virtual Box, I'd then have to go through all the trouble of getting IE 10.  Apr 17 18:14
twitterThat's a lot of effort just to look at a second rate piece of non free software.Apr 17 18:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] "When life gives you lemons, rub them in the open wounds of an enemy." #waitwaitApr 17 18:15
twitterMuch is being made of  CFO Patrick PichetteApr 17 18:15
twitter's statement, "On a tactical basis, everybody that uses Chrome is a guaranteed locked-in user for us in terms of having access to Google."Apr 17 18:15
twitterZDNet wrote an article with the headline, " Why is Chrome so important to Google? It's a 'locked-in user'" even RMS copied it.Apr 17 18:16
schestowitzLOL http://tinyogg.com/watch/ePfJ7/Apr 17 18:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: TinyOgg - Watch: Julian Assange "getting down" on the dance floor in Reykjavik .::. Size~: 5.47 KBApr 17 18:16
twitterbut it looks like a misquoteApr 17 18:16
twitterA more charitable interpretation is that Chrome will guarantee Google access to Windows users.Apr 17 18:17
twitterMicrosoft is busy sabotaging that, as I saw in Microsoft Jack's articles the other day.Apr 17 18:17
twitterSee yesterday's IRC logs for links.Apr 17 18:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kernellogauthor/@kernellogauthor] 2.6.39-rc3-git7: Reported #regressions -- from 2.6.38 http://bit.ly/gmx6QS (10 Unresolved); 2.6.37 -> 2.6.38 (28 unresolved)Apr 17 18:18
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Gmane Loom .::. Size~: 0.47 KBApr 17 18:18
schestowitzhttp://tinyogg.com/watch/oOXyn/Apr 17 18:18
TechrightsBot-trTitle: TinyOgg - Watch: Penguin being tickled .::. Size~: 8.51 KBApr 17 18:18
twitterI use the Chromium Browser and in no way feel "locked" to Google services by anything other than technical excellence of Google services. Apr 17 18:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @sixgun: "Linux Outlaws 201 - Infected Through the Backdoor" is released: http://outl.ws/06Apr 17 18:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux Outlaws 201 - Infected Through the Backdoor — we aim to misbehave .::. Size~: 20.68 KBApr 17 18:23
twitterLook at the M$ astro turf comments http://www.zdnet.com/blog/btl/why-is-chrome-so-important-to-google-its-a-locked-in-user/47295Apr 17 18:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Why is Chrome so important to Google? It's a 'locked-in user' | ZDNet .::. Size~: 128.95 KBApr 17 18:27
twitterZDNet is shit.Apr 17 18:27
twitterThey accuse Google of everything Microsoft does.Apr 17 18:28
twitterand they ignore Microsoft.Apr 17 18:28
schestowitzThe site has a special relationshipApr 17 18:29
twitterprobably considered "controlled press"Apr 17 18:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Murdoch's Fox peanut gallery helps insult the side it pretends to be making stronger http://ur1.ca/3vl4w #tidegoesin #switchofffoxApr 17 18:30
TechrightsBot-trTitle: YouTube         - Bill O'Reilly's Pathetic Argument For Intelligent Design .::. Size~: 126.23 KBApr 17 18:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] OK, with another podcast released, I'm gonna relax a bit with NHL on the PS3...Apr 17 18:31
twitterZDNet did a good job of obfuscating the "bing sting" story.  http://www.zdnet.com/photos/does-bing-copy-google-search-the-evidence-screenshots/6190648 and http://www.zdnet.com/blog/microsoft/microsoft-we-do-not-copy-googles-results/8557?tag=content;feature-roto make no direct mention of the mechanism of copy - SPYING ON WINDOWS USERS.Apr 17 18:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Does Bing copy Google Search? the evidence (screenshots) | ZDNet .::. Size~: 91.41 KBApr 17 18:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft: 'We do not copy Google's results' | ZDNet .::. Size~: 132.75 KBApr 17 18:34
twitterNow ZDNet accuses Google of lock in for making a free software browser....Apr 17 18:35
twitterI'll bet they tried to FUD Firefox the same way.Apr 17 18:35
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOea1lR2b6EApr 17 18:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle: YouTube         - Fox's Bill O'Reilly On Keith Olbermann Leaving MSNBC .::. Size~: 126.3 KBApr 17 18:38
schestowitzZDFoxApr 17 18:38
schestowitzArs goes the same way sometimesApr 17 18:39
schestowitzwhen covering comes from Emil (he quit I think) and peterApr 17 18:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] her name is Rebecca http://coffee.jezra.net/coffee/20110417 #sip_and_clickApr 17 18:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle: coffee.jezra: 2011-04-17 .::. Size~: 3.38 KBApr 17 18:40
twitterhttp://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2011/apr/15/bp-control-science-gulf-oil-spillApr 17 18:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Emails expose BP's attempts to control research into impact of Gulf oil spill | Environment | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 249.31 KBApr 17 18:40
twitter->  "Can we 'direct' GRI [Gulf of Mexico Research Initiative] funding to a specific study (as we now see the governor's offices trying to do)? What influence do we have over the vessels/equipment driving the studies vs the questions?".Apr 17 18:42
schestowitz"it's OK"Apr 17 18:44
schestowitz"We're the good guys"Apr 17 18:44
twitterThis is proof of accusations that, " A number of scientists had earlier expressed concerns that BP would attempt to point scientists to convenient areas of study – or try to suppress research that did not suit its business."Apr 17 18:44
schestowitz"They hate us cause we have a lot of oil"Apr 17 18:44
schestowitzof courseApr 17 18:44
schestowitzBut Gates funds themApr 17 18:45
schestowitzHe also funds many other things...Apr 17 18:45
schestowitzAnd now they spread the nuke FUDApr 17 18:45
twitterDon't listen to me, I'm just bitter that BP has ruined my beaches, polluted my seafood and harmed the health of my family and millions neighbors then tried to hide it.  I'm just a mindless hater.  Apr 17 18:46
twitterDid you see the EU warning against milk and leafy veggies for pregnant women and children?Apr 17 18:47
twitterhttp://www.euractiv.com/en/health/radiation-risks-fukushima-longer-negligible-news-503947Apr 17 18:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Radiation risks from Fukushima 'no longer negligible' | EurActiv .::. Size~: 58.07 KBApr 17 18:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 17/4/2011: MIPS and Android http://ur1.ca/3vlb0 !techrightsApr 17 18:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Links 17/4/2011: MIPS and Android | Techrights .::. Size~: 114.54 KBApr 17 18:48
twitterit is disturbing to see that no similar warning has been issued in the US where milk and other produce has shown 10x the contamination France is worried about.Apr 17 18:49
twitterGiven a typical diet, they predict children can get a dose as high as 1R (10 mSv) in two or three weeks.Apr 17 18:50
twitterThat would mean kids in the Western US might get a dose of 10 R, which will cause cancers later.Apr 17 18:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] loving openbox+fbpanelApr 17 18:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Zero Punctuation cosplayers http://ur1.ca/3vlggApr 17 19:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Zero Punctuation cosplayers - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 20.14 KBApr 17 19:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Righthaven copyright trolls never had the right to sue, have their asses handed to them by the !EFF http://ur1.ca/3vlgt pwnedApr 17 19:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] #TSA considers being raped in public by agents is to be an indicator of terrorist intentions http://ur1.ca/3vlh8Apr 17 19:03
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Righthaven copyright trolls never had the right to sue, have their asses handed to them by the EFF - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 22.89 KBApr 17 19:03
TechrightsBot-trTitle: TSA considers being upset at screening procedures to be an indicator of terrorist intentions - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 29.31 KBApr 17 19:03
_Goblinschestowitz: you readyApr 17 19:08
schestowitz#MeeGo Will Live Despite #Microsoft CorruptionApr 17 19:08
schestowitzhttp://ur1.ca/3vljd #nokia #linuxApr 17 19:08
schestowitz:-)Apr 17 19:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: MeeGo Will Live Despite Microsoft Corruption | Techrights .::. Size~: 85.14 KBApr 17 19:09
schestowitz_Goblin: yes, what time?Apr 17 19:09
schestowitznow NOW?Apr 17 19:09
_Goblinschestowitz: .....now now....well maybe not now now but with an intention to proceed now, nowApr 17 19:09
schestowitzokApr 17 19:09
schestowitzI'll log inApr 17 19:10
_Goblinill check on GordonApr 17 19:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Links 17/4/2011: #MIPS and #Android http://ur1.ca/3vlb0 #techrights #newssummaryApr 17 19:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] MeeGo Will Live Despite Microsoft Corruption http://ur1.ca/3vljd #intel #moblinApr 17 19:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Links 17/4/2011: MIPS and Android | Techrights .::. Size~: 114.66 KBApr 17 19:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: MeeGo Will Live Despite Microsoft Corruption | Techrights .::. Size~: 85.14 KBApr 17 19:11
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/71262317 < annoyingApr 17 19:11
TechrightsBot-tr@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Sunday, 17-Apr-11 18:09:46 UTC - Identi.ca: #MeeGo Will Live Despite #Microsoft Corruption http://ur1.ca/3vljd #nokia #linuxApr 17 19:11
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: MeeGo Will Live Despite Microsoft Corruption | Techrights .::. Size~: 85.14 KBApr 17 19:11
schestowitzWe might need to cover it on the show at some stageApr 17 19:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] Stop Price Gouging on Canada's Internet: http://is.gd/KjKfr2 #ubb #consumerrippoffsApr 17 19:13
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Stop Price Gouging on Canada's Internet - The Petition Site .::. Size~: 66.3 KBApr 17 19:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Here is my desktop right now (why it takes sooooo long to back up) http://ur1.ca/3vlmsApr 17 19:18
TechrightsBot-trTitle: http://file.status.net/i/identica/laurelrusswurm-20110417T181750-vvpxqrh.jpeg - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 10.27 KBApr 17 19:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @schestowitz: #MeeGo Will Live Despite #Microsoft Corruption http://ur1.ca/3vljd #nokia #linuxApr 17 19:20
TechrightsBot-trTitle: MeeGo Will Live Despite Microsoft Corruption | Techrights .::. Size~: 85.14 KBApr 17 19:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @rms: Kucinich Stonewalled http://ur1.ca/3vkzxApr 17 19:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @themadhatter ah, but greedy swine that I am, I'd like to edit it myself :)Apr 17 19:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 2011: January - April Political Notes - Richard Stallman .::. Size~: 706.61 KBApr 17 19:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @evan @poindexter Gnome 3 is a lovely desktop.Apr 17 19:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @djdualcore: http://soundcloud.com/dj-dual-core/the-martians-think-we-are was entirely produced on #GNU/Linux #linuxmint !linux !fsfApr 17 19:25
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Martians Think We Are Stupid by DJ Dual Core on SoundCloud - Create, record and share your sounds for free .::. Size~: 56.85 KBApr 17 19:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @themadhatter i can't afford to lose it either, but one doesn't always have the cash or the time (with me it's often one or the other)Apr 17 19:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @openbytes: ♻ @glynmoody New breed of gagging order could send journalists to jail, MP claims http://bit.ly/ijAQpF insane & dangerous #ukApr 17 19:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: New breed of gagging order could send journalists to jail, MP claims | Media | The Guardian .::. Size~: 133.45 KBApr 17 19:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @Anony_Ops: Nothing of value was lost. Join the team #Anonymous to restore it http://anono.ps/ED & http://uleak.it/?17j #ED #derpApr 17 19:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @glynmoody #Scarcity, #Abundance, and the Knowledge Economy. Tightened Up. - http://bit.ly/fCVOql a key issue for future economics #c ...Apr 17 19:30
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Webchat | AnonOps .::. Size~: 0.56 KBApr 17 19:30
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Eric Reasons: Scarcity, Abundance, and the Knowledge Economy. Tightened Up. .::. Size~: 81.65 KBApr 17 19:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[firefoxmilestones/@firefoxmilestones] #Firefox4 reached 89 million downloads on 2011-04-17 18:32 UTCApr 17 19:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @themadhatter no... I've been trying to get computer ready for brainwipe & !Trisquel (so it's done between upload/proof & serialization)Apr 17 19:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @Anony_Ops: and nothing of value was lost. Join team #Anonymous to restore it http://anono.ps/ED #EncyclopediaDramatica #ED #derpApr 17 19:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Webchat | AnonOps .::. Size~: 0.56 KBApr 17 19:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @themadhatter is it online (link?) I have to make some more coffee (mexican chiappis from Planet Bean)Apr 17 19:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @themadhatter yeah, me too. One of my favorite tshirts says "I thought I'd Be Rich By Now" ;)Apr 17 19:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] 87.91% Of Canadian Facebook Users Think Contempt Charge Of Substance To Canadian Election: http://bit.ly/f4MBj9 #elxn41 #cdnpoliApr 17 19:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] Not the story that Stephen Harper wanted to hear.Apr 17 19:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 87.91% Of Canadian Facebook Users Think Contempt Charge Of Substance To Canadian Election .::. Size~: 35.99 KBApr 17 19:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] But since 28350 people took part in the poll, I'd say that it's probably more accurate than most telephone polls.Apr 17 19:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] smspillaz: Death to all things invisible http://goo.gl/n06WS #compiz !unityApr 17 19:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #Launchpad Blog: Launchpad is on #Facebook http://goo.gl/mkwkeApr 17 19:45
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Death to all things invisible | be careful, he might break your display .::. Size~: 32.27 KBApr 17 19:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !OMG !Ubuntu: Desktop Google Reader app ‘Read me’ adds twitter, read it later support http://goo.gl/i10jQ !PPA: http://goo.gl/eNGbtApr 17 19:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !OMG !Ubuntu: Bugfix update to desktop #YouTube app #MiniTube http://goo.gl/CNywhApr 17 19:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !OMG !Ubuntu: Privacy settings are coming to #Zeitgeist http://goo.gl/L76gWApr 17 19:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] RT @fontana @dbs How about we get rid of CLAs altogether? Who decided they were necessary?Apr 17 19:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Geek & Poke: #Bugtracking http://goo.gl/wN5IhApr 17 19:48
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Privacy settings are coming to Zeitgeist .::. Size~: 51.37 KBApr 17 19:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Geek And Poke: Bugtracking .::. Size~: 42.92 KBApr 17 19:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Geek & Poke: Ode2Joy http://goo.gl/SzADXApr 17 19:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Clay Weber: !KDE Activities and Virtual Desktops and The Cube http://goo.gl/vnY0tApr 17 19:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Sebastian Kügler: Plasma Active: Designing Flexible and Adaptive User Interfaces http://goo.gl/TcKl7 !kdeApr 17 19:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @webmink: RT @fontana @dbs How about we get rid of CLAs altogether? Who decided they were necessary?Apr 17 19:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Wow.... This #Harmony topic isn't dying down at all... Can't wait to get @allisonrandal on !LO to talk about it.Apr 17 19:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] They are using robots run by !PS3's to fix the reactor in #Fukushima? OoApr 17 20:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Gotta say, really liking #Arch. Some stuff is awkward but it isn't as annoying to set up as I thought... :)Apr 17 20:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] status.net...identi.ca mail posting!Apr 17 20:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @themadhatter Congrats on being an ex-smoker [for myself I chew grape bublicious - i'm sensitive to aspartame so I can't chew sugarless.]Apr 17 20:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @glynmoody Bitcoin: Imagine a net without intermediaries - http://bit.ly/eN7aYn "decentralized and anonymous virtual currency"; #open ...Apr 17 20:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @glynmoody RIP #Google Video: Download Your Videos by May 13 or They’re Gone Forever - http://on.mash.to/iaYZBh why you need backups ...Apr 17 20:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @glynmoody Snooping: It's not a crime, it's a feature - http://bit.ly/hSKbLX are you sure your smartphone is on *your* side? (v @NomD ...Apr 17 20:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @glynmoody Tibetans under cyber attack - http://bit.ly/esEr1i haven't they learned from last time not to use #windows? (v @PeteDotAsc ...Apr 17 20:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @glynmoody First True Chinese Made #iPad Competitor! GS30 #Android Tablet - http://bit.ly/igHHp2 will it come to the West? #china #tabsApr 17 20:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Watching The Mentalist...Apr 17 20:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk I've not been to China, and I suspect it depends. We have some large pockets of oriental communities, my guess some is and some not...Apr 17 20:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk I think BC had a wave of ex-Hong Kind immigration when the lease was up, but I've not been there either. Toronto has a large variety.Apr 17 20:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk Rule of thumb: if "chicken balls" are on the menu, it's about as authentic a representation as Taco Bell is for Mexican cuisine :DApr 17 20:20
MinceRat least in gnome 3 you can add those buttons (and functions back) ...for now, at leastApr 17 20:32
MinceRs/back\)/)back/Apr 17 20:32
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WireWulfo/ all long time no seeApr 17 20:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk There is a great chain buffet restaurant in southern ontario called "The Mandarin" that is great... they cater to GweilosApr 17 20:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is joshix with 164 dents!Apr 17 20:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Julian Assange: «Nous avons été un déclencheur» http://is.gd/8x4iH1Apr 17 20:51
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WireWulfhmm Apr 17 20:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Jane drunk is awesome. #TheMentalistApr 17 21:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] Been outdoors washing and polish Windows all day long, now it is time for some console...Apr 17 21:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @kevie: @maloki !RR is on, come join us on IRCApr 17 21:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Listening to !RRApr 17 21:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @mikkelpaulson Just got fax informing me that the preliminary expense limit for the party is $750,000. How will we survive? !elxn41 #ppcaApr 17 21:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @somecanuckchick Documents show engines not included with stealth fighter jets: http://ur1.ca/3vmy3 !cdnpoli !elxn41 #change #prioritiesApr 17 21:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @Womanwhovotes #rejectedconservativeslogans "We took the progressive out, we took the conservative out, think what we'll do next" !elxn41Apr 17 21:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @Zeinobia: is twitter blocked in Syria now !!_ /cc @telecomixApr 17 21:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] LOL @methoddan totally ratholing the radio again. Love it! :DApr 17 21:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @QMInews Tory MP walks out on all-candidates debate http://ur1.ca/3vn2p !elxn41 >> sad the "big" party "Leaders" weren't so #democraticApr 17 21:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Tory MP walks out on debate | Decision 2011 | News | Toronto Sun .::. Size~: 62.35 KBApr 17 21:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Having a scotch and listening to !RatholeRadio.Apr 17 21:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] 'Robot Journalist' Out-Writes Human Sports Reporter (NPR): http://n.pr/eK1lJLApr 17 21:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @Zeinobia: Twitter is reportedly blocked in Syria :( /cc @telecomixApr 17 21:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Come on, Rangers! You can do it! :) !NHLApr 17 21:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @drbunsen: Report: Unauthorised access detected! Oh, hang on a second... yep, it is just @corenominal, again! !crunchbangApr 17 22:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Damn you, Ovechkin!!!Apr 17 22:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] What's behind web pages (via @mvalente) http://ping.fm/Vf0N9Apr 17 22:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Capitals at Rangers now tied. :/ !NHLApr 17 22:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Right on the whistle as well! Fedotenko rules! :D !NHLApr 17 22:11
schestowitz_Goblin: I rushly chose bad encoding optionsApr 17 22:13
schestowitzSo it's like one frame per secondApr 17 22:13
schestowitzWhich looks jumpyApr 17 22:14
schestowitzAudio too is 20/100Apr 17 22:14
schestowitzNext show we'll get both faces on with high qualityApr 17 22:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Did that goal not count? WTF!? OoApr 17 22:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @jcerdeira "it’s easier than ever to draw an idea on the back of a napkin it’s still hard to quit your day job." Steve Blank #leanstartupApr 17 22:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Off to bed. Work tomorrow..... Gah.Apr 17 22:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Just finished recording !Techbytes ep40. Hopefully up and published shortly. I've already done the shownotes!Apr 17 22:26
_Goblinschestowitz: Ive done the show notesApr 17 22:26
schestowitzTHanksApr 17 22:27
schestowitzWanna try SIP cam quickly?Apr 17 22:27
schestowitzIt's good that I tested it tonightApr 17 22:27
schestowitzOn wet surfaceApr 17 22:27
schestowitzI know what needs doing next timeApr 17 22:27
schestowitzIt'll be goodApr 17 22:27
_Goblinschestowitz: my wife was waiting until the show ended,,,,she's now in bed...Apr 17 22:29
_Goblinshe doesn't want me talking...Apr 17 22:29
_Goblinoh did you see title for the show?Apr 17 22:29
_Goblin"video begins at 40"Apr 17 22:29
_Goblin(if you agree)Apr 17 22:29
schestowitz_Goblin: when I did the video I had the speakers onApr 17 22:31
schestowitzLater I moved to headphonesApr 17 22:32
schestowitzSo the quality of recording improved somewhatApr 17 22:32
_GoblinIt will be interesting.....Apr 17 22:32
schestowitz_Goblin: yesApr 17 22:32
schestowitzgood titleApr 17 22:32
_Goblinit was Gordons suggestionApr 17 22:32
_Goblinschestowitz: meant to ask....do you mind if I use a shot of you from your website for my article about the Q&A coming up?Apr 17 22:34
schestowitzFor the trolls delight you highlighted somethingApr 17 22:34
_Goblinwhat was that?Apr 17 22:35
schestowitzsure, use anything you wantApr 17 22:35
schestowitz_Goblin: the obvious bitsApr 17 22:35
schestowitzNot sure if cider had something to do with itApr 17 22:35
_GoblinWho me?Apr 17 22:35
schestowitzNo...Apr 17 22:35
_GoblinI don't really drink....Apr 17 22:35
_GoblinahApr 17 22:35
_Goblinoh I seeApr 17 22:36
schestowitznot even bassboost can vanish itApr 17 22:36
_GoblinFYI Im using the picture: http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2009/10/01/rowing-second-place/Apr 17 22:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle: schestowitz.com  » Blog Archive   » Rowing: Second Place .::. Size~: 34.62 KBApr 17 22:38
schestowitzSureApr 17 22:38
schestowitzIt's a bad photo though..Apr 17 22:39
_Goblinhave you got a bigger graduation one?Apr 17 22:39
_Goblinlike the one from Linux Format?Apr 17 22:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] "The best minds of my generation are thinking about how to make people click ads" (Business Week): http://buswk.co/eCoRiHApr 17 22:40
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schestowitzGo with the one above, no worries..Apr 17 22:42
schestowitzI'm just saying, I'm quite chubby and pale in those..Apr 17 22:42
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schestowitzI'm in much better shape now, I think... that's just me being picky :-)Apr 17 22:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Patrick Stewart joins the assisted suicide debate http://is.gd/sufqtb on the humane teamApr 17 22:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] "these people are the glue that holds together the gears of or society" - Homer J. Simpson !qApr 17 22:55
Ender2070assisted suicide and abortions, all socialist ideologiesApr 17 22:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] OPENBYTES: Interview with Dr Roy Schestowitz of TechRights http://tinyurl.com/6zq5rblApr 17 23:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Interview with Dr Roy Schestowitz of TechRights « OpenBytes .::. Size~: 32.17 KBApr 17 23:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] RT @openbytes OPENBYTES: Interview with Dr Roy Schestowitz of TechRights http://tinyurl.com/6zq5rblApr 17 23:05
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schestowitz_Goblin: I'm making a HQ mp3 version tooApr 17 23:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @satipera ♺ @openbytes OPENBYTES: Interview with Dr Roy Schestowitz of TechRights http://tinyurl.com/6zq5rblApr 17 23:25
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Interview with Dr Roy Schestowitz of TechRights « OpenBytes .::. Size~: 32.6 KBApr 17 23:25
schestowitzEnder2070: are you against these?Apr 17 23:25
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/71264747Apr 17 23:26
TechrightsBot-tr@Andy C (andyc)'s status on Sunday, 17-Apr-11 18:38:05 UTC - Identi.ca: @thistleweb Is @schestowitz alive too ? I'd heard conflicting stories.Apr 17 23:26
schestowitzhuh?Apr 17 23:26
schestowitzOh I see contect nowApr 17 23:28
schestowitz*xt    "Not long till @openbytes and @thistleweb are 'live on stage'. Good luck, gents ! 'One take, no overdubs' - just like Buzzcocks."Apr 17 23:28
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/68924045#notice-71264747Apr 17 23:28
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_Goblinschestowitz: I'm ready to go with the show notes as soon as the shows uploadedApr 17 23:30
_Goblinschestowitz: hopefully before I retire for the nightApr 17 23:31
schestowitzabout 20 mins..Apr 17 23:31
schestowitzwe'll try video another dayApr 17 23:31
schestowitzI also know what I did wrongApr 17 23:31
schestowitzit'll work beautifully next timeApr 17 23:32
schestowitzthe video thing hardly harmed the quality of sound being recordedApr 17 23:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @themadhatter If the photos you upload are tagged, you are increasing the database, increasing probability of facial match !privacyApr 17 23:33
_GoblincoolApr 17 23:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] LINK: MeeGo Will Live Despite Microsoft Corruption http://tinyurl.com/3je2y74Apr 17 23:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @jkoblovsky: RT @decisioncanada: what do you want this election to be about? Let us know! http://ht.ly/4C5CD #elxn41 ...Apr 17 23:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Have we been homogenized into a sea of reddish, blurred people? http://twitpic.com/4m5dov #sgelectionApr 17 23:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @jkoblovsky: RT @gclight: Canada is now embracing green technology purchasing F35 Gliders. #elxn41 ROFLMAO - yep, no engines!Apr 17 23:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @selwynrfirth: @_the_mad_hatter @KarlSchroeder Layton understands just enough 2 lead NDP. A good place for him, keeps him out of trouble.Apr 17 23:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @howardknopf: RT @HuffingtonPost: Congressman blames American unemployment on the iPad http://huff.to/eBVgQxApr 17 23:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr. Blames iPad For American Unemployment (VIDEO) .::. Size~: 255.37 KBApr 17 23:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @Falkvinge: RT @FrankenTan: I love how the pirates are 10x times as innovative as the content providers.Apr 17 23:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] ♻ @openbytes LINK: MeeGo Will Live Despite Microsoft Corruption http://tinyurl.com/3je2y74Apr 17 23:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @_Goblin: LINK: MeeGo Will Live Despite Microsoft Corruption http://tinyurl.com/3je2y74Apr 17 23:43
TechrightsBot-trTitle: MeeGo Will Live Despite Microsoft Corruption | Techrights .::. Size~: 85.09 KBApr 17 23:43
TechrightsBot-trTitle: MeeGo Will Live Despite Microsoft Corruption | Techrights .::. Size~: 85.09 KBApr 17 23:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] ♻ @planetfedora Richard W.M. Jones: Decoding the Windows Event Log using guestfish: The Windows Event Log system is ... http://bit.ly/fTE7fmApr 17 23:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Decoding the Windows Event Log using guestfish | Richard WM Jones .::. Size~: 47.01 KBApr 17 23:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Good Monday morning all!Apr 17 23:48
schestowitz_Goblin: almost thereApr 17 23:52
schestowitzuploading 3 filesApr 17 23:52
_Goblinexcellent!Apr 17 23:54
_Goblinlet me know when you need the url for the shownotesApr 17 23:55
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