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oiaohmDaemonFC: i will make something clear.  wine problems I answer in winehq.  No other channel I am in.   So that when I am not in a wine problem answering mood I can go else where and hide.Mar 19 00:00
oiaohmDaemonFC: I don't thing I had told you about that base rule of mine.  Just getting in advance about it.Mar 19 00:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] Rainer Stinner Mdb (FDP) sieht kein Problem wegen der Umstellung im AA zu unfreier Software http://ur1.ca/3knck #bundesleaks !fsMar 19 00:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: abgeordnetenwatch.de: Dr. Rainer Stinner .::. Size~: 57 KBMar 19 00:09
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DaemonFCI'm tiredMar 19 00:12
*DaemonFC got woke up by his landlord threatening to evict the bitch next doorMar 19 00:13
DaemonFCthe histrionic one, not the kabuki ghoul one downstairsMar 19 00:13
DaemonFCI do enjoy mocking her thoughMar 19 00:15
DaemonFCand her dramatic anticsMar 19 00:15
DaemonFCthat guy next door RAPED me!Mar 19 00:15
DaemonFCMe: "Call the police"Mar 19 00:15
DaemonFCLandlord with me on the phone later: "She told me it was the guys birthday so she got in the bathtub with him to shave his back"Mar 19 00:16
*DaemonFC arches an eyebrowMar 19 00:16
schestowitzEwww...Mar 19 00:16
DaemonFClater yet....neighbor: "And he shoved his dick in my mouth and I bit it!"Mar 19 00:17
schestowitzI'm sure she was charmed by a hairy backMar 19 00:17
*DaemonFC looks around wondering where he fits in in all of thisMar 19 00:17
schestowitzDaemonFC: it's a scandal when the word "penis" comes upMar 19 00:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #XBMC media center running on #ARM and Intel-based #MeeGo #Linux devices http://ur1.ca/3kne8 #mediqcentre #freedomMar 19 00:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: XBMC media center running on ARM and Intel-based MeeGo Linux devices .::. Size~: 24.17 KBMar 19 00:17
DaemonFCfew days later, our working on the lawn....guy next door comes up to meMar 19 00:18
schestowitzNot razor and backMar 19 00:18
DaemonFC"Hey man, I don't know what she told you but it was all consensual"Mar 19 00:18
DaemonFC*barf bag on standby*Mar 19 00:18
DaemonFCHe's not bad but she's like 50, and not even a good 50Mar 19 00:18
DaemonFCmore like smoked and drank for the last 30 years 50Mar 19 00:18
schestowitzPickup line 101: "yo gurl, why don't u come shave me back?"Mar 19 00:19
DaemonFCschestowitz: There's people like this in the world and I get to take pillsMar 19 00:19
DaemonFCit's not fairMar 19 00:19
DaemonFCno wonder the pharmacies are always out of LithiumMar 19 00:21
DaemonFCthere must be a few more sane people like me out thereMar 19 00:21
DaemonFCwe're all competing for dope to copeMar 19 00:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Linux Mint 10 #LXDE Released http://ur1.ca/3knf5 flavour of the month. #linuxmintMar 19 00:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux Mint 10 LXDE Released | ZDNet UK .::. Size~: 49.6 KBMar 19 00:21
schestowitzAre you *forced* to take pills?Mar 19 00:21
schestowitzHave some PezMar 19 00:21
schestowitz!google pez remedyMar 19 00:21
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Raiz De Chivo Pez Herbs of Mexico offers Ra?z De Chivo Pez / Ra?z ... | https://herbsofmexico.com/store/bulk-herbs-to-z/q-s/raiz-de-chivo-pezMar 19 00:22
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Larry Malerba, D.O. : Homeopathy: A Time-Tested Treatment for the Flu | http://www.huffingtonpost.com/larry-malerba/homeopathic-remedies-for-the-flu_b_802803.htmlMar 19 00:22
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - John K Stuff: Pez Friends | http://johnkstuff.blogspot.com/2010/11/pez-friends.htmlMar 19 00:22
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - eBay - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EBayMar 19 00:22
DaemonFCtechnically noMar 19 00:22
DaemonFCI'm told I am worse off of themMar 19 00:22
DaemonFCtrying to kill yourself probably countsMar 19 00:22
DaemonFChearing voices, yeahMar 19 00:22
schestowitz"I'm GETTING STRESSED OUT... something get my PEZ dispenser!!! Before I get seizures"Mar 19 00:23
DaemonFCheheMar 19 00:23
*DaemonFC slips some haldol in schestowitz's coffeeMar 19 00:23
DaemonFCthat should get you through the dayMar 19 00:23
schestowitzwhat's that?Mar 19 00:24
schestowitz!google haldolMar 19 00:24
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Haloperidol - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HaloperidolMar 19 00:24
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Haldol (Haloperidol Injection) Drug Information: User Reviews ... | http://www.rxlist.com/haldol-drug.htmMar 19 00:24
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Haldol Facts and Comparisons at Drugs.com | http://www.drugs.com/cdi/haldol.htmlMar 19 00:24
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Haloperidol: MedlinePlus Drug Information | http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/druginfo/meds/a682180.htmlMar 19 00:24
DaemonFCan antipsychoticMar 19 00:24
DaemonFCfairly powerfulMar 19 00:24
schestowitzIs that like legalised narcotic?Mar 19 00:24
DaemonFCmehMar 19 00:24
DaemonFCI slept for about a day after they shoved a needle full of it in my assMar 19 00:25
schestowitzTHe one that's OK cause men in white coats prescribe?Mar 19 00:25
schestowitz24 hours?!Mar 19 00:25
DaemonFCat leastMar 19 00:25
schestowitzI woke up to classic FM today.. but took 1.5 hour snoozing with the radio on before getting upMar 19 00:25
DaemonFCI was involuntarily detainedMar 19 00:26
schestowitzCause my Internet connection sucks right now... now much to hurry up forMar 19 00:26
DaemonFConly a week that timeMar 19 00:26
DaemonFCit's a catch and release mental health systemMar 19 00:26
schestowitz24 hour sleep... won't the body lack food?Mar 19 00:26
DaemonFCThorazine is worseMar 19 00:26
schestowitz!google longest sleep everMar 19 00:26
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - What is the longest someone has ever gone without sleep? - Yahoo ... | http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index%3Fqid%3D20101111013618AA2xYhBMar 19 00:26
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - The National Sleep Research Project - 40 amazing facts about sleep | http://www.abc.net.au/science/sleep/facts.htmMar 19 00:26
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Twitter / Fabian cancellara: Longest sleep ever i have ... | http://twitter.com/f_cancellara/status/22787495253Mar 19 00:26
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Answers.com - How long was the longest sleep ever by human | http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_long_was_the_longest_sleep_ever_by_humanMar 19 00:26
DaemonFCyou're awake and staring at the ceilingMar 19 00:26
DaemonFCthey use antipsychotics to get around the no restraints lawsMar 19 00:27
DaemonFCthis way the doctor doesn't have to renew the order every dayMar 19 00:28
DaemonFC"If he gets out of line, whack him up again"Mar 19 00:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] 07.20 listening to more anti Libyan bollocks from the BBCMar 19 00:29
schestowitz!google daemonfc mental problemMar 19 00:29
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Mono | Techrights | http://techrights.org/category/mono/Mar 19 00:29
schestowitzHeheMar 19 00:30
schestowitzSpeaking of mental problems (Mono)Mar 19 00:30
schestowitzNever name your sw project after diseaseMar 19 00:30
DaemonFCdamonfc-sharp is installing 666 assemblies into monoMar 19 00:30
DaemonFCstand byMar 19 00:30
schestowitz^CMar 19 00:32
schestowitz^CMar 19 00:32
schestowitzfgMar 19 00:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Does FOSS Need a Charismatic Leader? http://ur1.ca/3kngc leaders for the feeble? Pedestal to worship? #freedom #leadership #dependenceMar 19 00:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Finally A Sub $500 #Ubuntu #Linux Based Desktop PC for Senior Citizens! http://ur1.ca/3knhi can't they use a normal desktop? Sure they can.Mar 19 00:32
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux News: Community: Does FOSS Need a Charismatic Leader? .::. Size~: 57.85 KBMar 19 00:32
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Finally A Sub $500 Ubuntu Linux Based Desktop PC for Senior Citizens! - Legit Reviews .::. Size~: 18.58 KBMar 19 00:33
*DaemonFC throws libmono-microsoft-visualbasic8.0-cil at schestowitzMar 19 00:33
DaemonFCB-)Mar 19 00:33
*schestowitz enables energy shieldMar 19 00:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] What’s wrong with Unity & how we can fix it http://ur1.ca/3knhu with a name like "unity" i's hard to criticiseMar 19 00:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: What’s wrong with Unity & how we can fix it .::. Size~: 295.94 KBMar 19 00:34
DaemonFClibkimono4.1-cil - CLI bindings for the KDE Development PlatformMar 19 00:34
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/67494893Mar 19 00:34
TechrightsBot-tr@satipera (satipera)'s status on Saturday, 19-Mar-11 07:31:31 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Harsh first paragraphMar 19 00:34
DaemonFChehMar 19 00:34
schestowitzre http://www.linuxinsider.com/story/Does-FOSS-Need-a-Charismatic-Leader-72081.html?wlc=1300519664Mar 19 00:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux News: Community: Does FOSS Need a Charismatic Leader? .::. Size~: 58.09 KBMar 19 00:34
schestowitzcan be rephrased, Microsoft has convictions and Apple has HubrisMar 19 00:36
*DaemonFC installs Banshee for schestowitzMar 19 00:37
DaemonFCreally, you have no idea WHAT YOU'RE ZOMG MISSING!Mar 19 00:37
schestowitzBLagMar 19 00:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Gtk+ 3.2 Will Let You Run Any Application In A Browser (Remotely Too) http://ur1.ca/3knik the Web is the best platform+APIMar 19 00:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Gtk+ 3.2 Will Let You Run Any Application In A Browser (Remotely Too) ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog .::. Size~: 65.74 KBMar 19 00:39
*DaemonFC installs blagblagblag with bansheebansheebanshee for schestowitzMar 19 00:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "The F15 Alpha experience so far has been great" http://ur1.ca/3kniq #fedora #gnu #linuxMar 19 00:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: It’s not about you «  Larry the Free Software Guy .::. Size~: 55.57 KBMar 19 00:41
*schestowitz pays back 75%Mar 19 00:41
schestowitz[to RIAA]Mar 19 00:41
DaemonFCcan you toss 1% to GNOME and then say Ubuntu is ZOMG STEALING IT!!!Mar 19 00:43
DaemonFC111Mar 19 00:43
DaemonFC:DMar 19 00:43
DaemonFCthe donations to GNOME were only ever intended to chum the watersMar 19 00:43
schestowitzNovell roublemakersMar 19 00:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Google Chrome OS Director Joins Chorus of Praise for HTML5 http://ur1.ca/3knj4 #gnu #linux #googleMar 19 00:44
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Google Chrome OS Director Joins Chorus of Praise for HTML5 | Fast Company .::. Size~: 40.57 KBMar 19 00:44
DaemonFCbut Ubuntu is STEALING!!! from ZOMG GNOME!!!1111Mar 19 00:44
DaemonFConeMar 19 00:44
*schestowitz books a doctor's appointment for DaemonFCMar 19 00:45
DaemonFCnot funnyMar 19 00:46
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/67495793Mar 19 00:46
TechrightsBot-tr@Laurel Russwurm (laurelrusswurm)'s status on Saturday, 19-Mar-11 07:40:36 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz and i thought Micro$oft only had accusations, I didn't realize there had been convictions :PMar 19 00:46
schestowitz!google microsoft convictedMar 19 00:46
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - United States v. Microsoft - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._MicrosoftMar 19 00:46
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - E-019 Court of Appeals: "Guilty!" | http://www.aaxnet.com/editor/edit019.htmlMar 19 00:46
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Microsoft convicted of software piracy - IT News from V3.co.uk | http://www.v3.co.uk/v3-uk/news/1979444/microsoft-convicted-software-piracyMar 19 00:46
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Computer History Development Timeline: Microsoft Perspective ... | http://techrights.org/2010/02/04/microsoft-perspective/Mar 19 00:46
DaemonFCschestowitz Can you make it one of the fancy doctors that speaks English and everything?Mar 19 00:46
schestowitzFunny you mention thisMar 19 00:47
DaemonFCschestowitz Quit spreading ZOMGFUD, they're promoting ZOMGECMASTANDARDS!!!!!!111Mar 19 00:47
DaemonFCB-)Mar 19 00:47
schestowitzYesterday morning I had a chat with a lady who said she was assigned a "European doctor" (meaning continental) who just mumbled through his beard things she could not understand and she didn't like himMar 19 00:48
schestowitzDaemonFC: most ethical companyMar 19 00:48
schestowitzBlackwaterMar 19 00:48
DaemonFCdon't you mean Xe?Mar 19 00:49
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/67496338Mar 19 00:49
TechrightsBot-tr@Gordon Sinclair (thistleweb)'s status on Saturday, 19-Mar-11 07:46:21 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz @openbytes are we likely to be able to record this weekend? !techbytesMar 19 00:49
DaemonFCnew name, same friendly merceneries?Mar 19 00:49
schestowitzI sure hope so (and can).Mar 19 00:49
schestowitzthey renamed twice, IIRCMar 19 00:49
schestowitzBlackwater: better name is redwaterMar 19 00:49
schestowitzWe put the "red" in :"redwater"Mar 19 00:49
schestowitzBlackwater: make friends, travel the world, get paid, kill peopleMar 19 00:50
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/janstedehouder/status/49013200804528128Mar 19 00:50
TechrightsBot-tr@janstedehouder: @schestowitz It is a normal desktop, based on Ubuntu Netbook UI. The keyboard is somewhat different, an improvement IMHO.Mar 19 00:50
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/janstedehouder/status/49013371625943040Mar 19 00:51
TechrightsBot-tr@janstedehouder: @schestowitz Plus, I am in the middle of setting up a project for senior citizens with no prior computer experience.Mar 19 00:51
schestowitzFrom what I can gather, senior citizens find those things offensiveMar 19 00:51
DaemonFChehMar 19 00:51
DaemonFCschestowitz: You know what the great part about getting old is?Mar 19 00:51
DaemonFCI forget. :)Mar 19 00:52
schestowitz!google ce icaza droolMar 19 00:52
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Boycott Novell | Techrights | http://techrights.org/category/uncategorized/Mar 19 00:52
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - 2009 December | Techrights | http://techrights.org/2009/12/Mar 19 00:52
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Les 40 meilleurs logiciels Open Source 2009 | http://www.itrmanager.com/articles/94486/40-meilleurs-logiciels-open-source-2009.htmlMar 19 00:52
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Linux Weekly News | http://lwn.net/2000/0127/bigpage.php3Mar 19 00:52
schestowitz!google ce icaza droolinglyMar 19 00:52
TechrightsBot-trNo Google resultsMar 19 00:52
schestowitz!google de icaza droolinglyMar 19 00:52
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Silverlight: Universal GUI toolkit - Miguel de Icaza | http://tirania.org/blog/archive/2009/Nov-23.htmlMar 19 00:52
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Nov - Miguel de Icaza | http://tirania.org/blog//archive/2009/Nov.htmlMar 19 00:52
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Miguel de Icaza Was Wrong About Silverlight and .NET | Techrights | http://techrights.org/2010/11/01/poor-guidance-with-moonlight/Mar 19 00:52
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - gnu, gnome, and the fsf -- wingolog | http://wingolog.org/archives/2009/12/13/gnu-gnome-and-the-fsfMar 19 00:52
DaemonFC!google de icaza toiletMar 19 00:52
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - GNOME - Uncyclopedia, the content-free encyclopedia | http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/GNOMEMar 19 00:52
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Mono Project Seems to be Dying (Development Virtually Halted ... | http://techrights.org/2010/08/30/mono-development-barriers/Mar 19 00:52
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Banshee, GNOME, & Amazon MP3 | Aaron Bockover | http://abock.org/2010/08/02/banshee-gnome-amazon-mp3Mar 19 00:52
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - New rules designed to exclude independent candiates | http://www.thepanamanews.com/pn/v_14/issue_17/news_07.htmlMar 19 00:52
DaemonFCthere was a funny picture of him wading through a novell office when a toilet overflowed into the hallMar 19 00:53
schestowitzYesMar 19 00:53
schestowitzI found that before you didMar 19 00:53
schestowitzAaron Banshee found itMar 19 00:53
schestowitzAaron Banshee posted it I meanMar 19 00:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 10 Things to Drool Over in #Firefox 4 http://ur1.ca/3kfij yes, in Firefox. Miguel de Icaza "drools" over Silver Lie. http://ur1.ca/hrwcMar 19 00:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 10 Things to Drool Over in Firefox 4 - PCWorld Business Center .::. Size~: 79.32 KBMar 19 00:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Silverlight: Universal GUI toolkit - Miguel de Icaza .::. Size~: 19.38 KBMar 19 00:54
schestowitzHe showed his toilet-fuMar 19 00:55
*gnufreex (~quassel@93-87-227-54.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs) has joined #techrightsMar 19 00:55
schestowitzOne thing he has in common with the toilet is that they're both filled with the same stuffMar 19 00:55
DaemonFCI got Banshee set upMar 19 00:55
DaemonFC:PMar 19 00:55
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/67496763Mar 19 00:56
TechrightsBot-tr@satipera (satipera)'s status on Saturday, 19-Mar-11 07:50:59 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Closer than they think.Mar 19 00:56
schestowitzre "can be rephrased, Microsoft has convictions and Apple has Hubris"Mar 19 00:56
gnufreexNetworkWorld is complete joke. I just now seen this http://www.networkworld.com/news/2011/031411-richard-stallman.html?page=1 Mar 19 00:56
DaemonFCI see they still didn't fix that crash on Now Playing bugMar 19 00:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Cell phones are 'Stalin's dream,' says free software movement founder .::. Size~: 126.79 KBMar 19 00:56
DaemonFCthat's only been around for a year nowMar 19 00:56
schestowitzgnufreex: they still push the "Microsoft: we love open source" lieMar 19 00:57
schestowitzSee the textMar 19 00:57
gnufreexYeahMar 19 00:57
schestowitzThey shove it in any other articleMar 19 00:57
gnufreexThey took every RMS' word out of contextMar 19 00:57
gnufreexand put their spin on itMar 19 00:57
schestowitzhttp://www.opensource.org/blog/MicrosoftLovesOpenSource.html">Mar 19 00:57
TechrightsBot-trError processing the URL: HTTP/1.1 404 Not FoundMar 19 00:57
schestowitzWhen I sMar 19 00:57
schestowitzNew rebuttal fro  OSIMar 19 00:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Mozilla Wlready Working on #Firefox 4.0.1 Update http://ur1.ca/3knk1 #webbrowserMar 19 00:57
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Mozilla Wlready Working on Firefox 4.0.1 Update .::. Size~: 112.84 KBMar 19 00:57
schestowitzhttp://www.opensource.org/blog/MicrosoftLovesOpenSource.htmlMar 19 00:58
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft Loves Open Source | Open Source Initiative .::. Size~: 8.56 KBMar 19 00:58
gnufreexAnd see slashdot trollsMar 19 00:58
schestowitzgnufreex: how so?Mar 19 00:58
gnufreexhttp://mobile.slashdot.org/story/11/03/15/0432226/Richard-Stallman-Cell-Phones-Are-Stalins-Dream#commentsMar 19 00:58
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Richard Stallman: Cell Phones Are 'Stalin's Dream' - Slashdot .::. Size~: 170.77 KBMar 19 00:58
schestowitzI know the author is a Microsoft boosterMar 19 00:58
schestowitzAnd RMS agrees to walk into this trapMar 19 00:58
schestowitzBut still..Mar 19 00:58
schestowitzI read page one the other dayMar 19 00:58
gnufreexI think it is orchestrated smear campaignMar 19 00:59
schestowitzAnd it seemed reasonable enough... I've seen worse attacks on RMSMar 19 00:59
gnufreexMake interviewMar 19 00:59
gnufreexthen put it all over the webMar 19 00:59
gnufreexthen send astroturfersMar 19 00:59
schestowitzI think he gave RMS some exposure at the end, so probbaly not too harmfulMar 19 00:59
gnufreexto plug commetsMar 19 00:59
schestowitzAh, that...Mar 19 00:59
gnufreexand then say "everybody hates RMS"Mar 19 00:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] So after all the warnings. Gadhafy's first move is to attack Benghazi. http://www.haaretz.com/news/international/gadhafi-forces-attack-libyaMar 19 00:59
schestowitzGive them food for trollingMar 19 00:59
TechrightsBot-trError processing the URL: HTTP/1.1 404 Not FoundMar 19 00:59
gnufreexSee first few comments on slashdotMar 19 00:59
gnufreexit is pretty much same on every articleMar 19 01:00
gnufreexThey should put entire interview in wholeMar 19 01:00
gnufreexNot take few sentences like thisMar 19 01:00
gnufreexand then spinMar 19 01:00
gnufreexand then few more sentencesMar 19 01:00
gnufreexand then more spinMar 19 01:01
schestowitzJoeMar 19 01:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks/@wikileaks] wikileaks: Книгу об Украине в Wikileaks презентовали в Киеве http://is.gd/ktADij http://bit.ly/fxMivnMar 19 01:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks/@wikileaks] wikileaks: Wadah Khanfar: A historic moment in the Arab world | Video on TED.com - http://ow.ly/46XwA http://bit.ly/dDXwKYMar 19 01:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: «Книгу об Украине в Wikileaks презентовали в Киеве». Смотреть Книгу об Украине в Wikileaks презентовали в Киеве, скачать в 3gp бесплатно .::. Size~: 81.79 KBMar 19 01:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Twitter / WikiLeaks: Книгу об Украине в Wikilea ... .::. Size~: 13.11 KBMar 19 01:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Wadah Khanfar: A historic moment in the Arab world | Video on TED.com .::. Size~: 81.77 KBMar 19 01:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Twitter / WikiLeaks: Wadah Khanfar: A historic  ... .::. Size~: 13.07 KBMar 19 01:01
gnufreexschestowitz: Who's joe?Mar 19 01:02
DaemonFChttp://img836.imageshack.us/img836/3462/snapshot2yh.pngMar 19 01:02
TechrightsBot-trNot a web page! Aborting image/png typeMar 19 01:02
DaemonFCheheMar 19 01:02
gnufreexschestowitz: also, they put "microsoft loves open source", that is what makes obvious that article is a attack on RMS. Like "RMS have no idea how much Microsoft loves open source"  Mar 19 01:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] dozing out... calling it a night because I can't keep my eyes open. Goodnight !identiverseMar 19 01:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @richslxh So after all the warnings. Gadhafy's first move is to attack Benghazi. http://www.haaretz.com/news/international/gadhafi-fo ...Mar 19 01:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Debian CUT, a new rolling release? http://ur1.ca/3knlc #gnu #linuxMar 19 01:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] #Libya and here it is was what you were thinking. Nothing to do but regime change. Civilians meh..Mar 19 01:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @osamak The first peaceful protester who was murdered by the Syrian regime: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-oplM1WfIk #SyriaMar 19 01:07
TechrightsBot-trError processing the URL: HTTP/1.1 404 Not FoundMar 19 01:07
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Debian CUT, a new rolling release? .::. Size~: 62.12 KBMar 19 01:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: YouTube         - ‫أول شهيد في الثورة السورية - البطل محمود الجوابرة درعا‬‎ .::. Size~: 121.47 KBMar 19 01:08
gnufreexschestowitz: Btw, did you saw groklaw newspicks?Mar 19 01:08
gnufreex"# Edward J. Naughton bio gets revisedMar 19 01:09
gnufreex[PJ: Edward J. Naughton, the attorney Huffington Post just published claiming Android may be in violation of the GPL has done work for Microsoft. Surprised much?Mar 19 01:09
gnufreexHis article states this at the end: "The views expressed are my own individual views and should not be attributed to any clients." Nevertheless, at least one of them may be delighted.Mar 19 01:09
gnufreexHis bio has changed recently. The link above is to its current state, where you will not find any mention of Microsoft. It's been changed to a "Fortune 50 software company". Here's what used to be on it, still in Google cache, a snapshot taken recently, on March 8]:Mar 19 01:09
gnufreex- Co-counsel defending Microsoft against a putative consumer class action alleging that it had violated wiretapping statutes and common law privacy rights by designing Windows to permit third parties to place cookies on computers. Obtained dismissal of complaint....Mar 19 01:09
gnufreex- Represented Microsoft in several dozen lawsuits against resellers and corporate end-users of counterfeit, infringing, and unlicensed software. - Brown Rudnick bio page for Naughton "Mar 19 01:09
gnufreexThat is the guy that claimed Android is a trapMar 19 01:10
gnufreexwith "GPL virus"Mar 19 01:10
gnufreex(not with that words, but that is what he meant)Mar 19 01:11
gnufreexAnd FMtroll linked it also. Mar 19 01:11
bentkusGPL VIRUSMar 19 01:18
bentkuswill infect us allMar 19 01:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] #Libya government aircraft brought down seen on news. We have seen shoulder launched missiles on news already. Where from?Mar 19 01:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Luciana Fujii Pontello: The GNU/Linux Girl Who Says Cheese! http://ur1.ca/3knol #gnu #linuxMar 19 01:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Giving Away #GNU #Linux Copies Of The New #Unigine Game http://ur1.ca/3kb5tMar 19 01:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] US Warships on the way to the Mediterranean, Spanish air bases being made available for UK/US planes. No going back now Libya.Mar 19 01:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] The real problem is not #Libya it is the western strong military powers. (Who are we going to blow out next)Mar 19 01:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] ICANN Approves the .xxx domain http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-12793606 #http://so-se.xxx/yMar 19 01:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @schestowitz: Luciana @Fujii Pontello: The GNU/Linux Girl Who Says Cheese! http://ur1.ca/3knol #gnu #linuxMar 19 01:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @debian: #Debian has been accepted as a mentoring organization for this year's Google Summer Of Code.Mar 19 01:41
schestowitzGive them food for trollingMar 19 01:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] West Ham vs Tottenham - Matchpack !spurs !football http://ur1.ca/3knr5Mar 19 01:46
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schestowitzgnufreex: http://www.networkworld.com/community/blog/lawyer-behind-android-infringement-claim-has-Mar 19 01:49
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schestowitzhttp://www.itworld.com/open-source/140667/helpful-lawyers-think-google-stole-linux-codeMar 19 01:51
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schestowitzLOLMar 19 01:51
schestowitzMicrosoft  the "most ethical" company in the worldMar 19 01:51
gnufreexschestowitz: How's the house moving went? Did you get back online (other than cell phone)Mar 19 01:51
schestowitzSo ethical it can't help being so niceMar 19 01:51
schestowitzgnufreex: I use mobile network at the momentMar 19 01:51
schestowitzI have spare bandwidthMar 19 01:52
gnufreexWhen you dented "moving houses" I thought you are moving stuff to anouther houseMar 19 01:52
schestowitzIt's good that the 'press' (IDG) was willing to have Microsoft busted...Mar 19 01:52
gnufreexThen I googled "moving houses"Mar 19 01:52
schestowitzBut these are just bloggersMar 19 01:52
schestowitzZonker and Brian from Linux TodayMar 19 01:52
gnufreexAnd I learned it is possible to move entire houseMar 19 01:52
schestowitzThe main sites are still litterted by the noise of Microsoft mafiosos Mar 19 01:53
schestowitzgnufreex: it's possible, but not in this case :-)Mar 19 01:53
schestowitz"moving house" just habitually means  change addreessMar 19 01:54
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schestowitzI'm still on mobile/cellular broadbandMar 19 01:57
schestowitzBT comes TuesdayMar 19 01:58
gnufreexyep. I saw that "Microsoft ethics contest", it is probably just for their evangelist to reference when people ask them why they apologize for criminalsMar 19 02:00
gnufreexA complete jokeMar 19 02:01
gnufreexMaybe they redefined word "ethics"Mar 19 02:01
cubezzz Microsoft NewspeakMar 19 02:02
gnufreexlolMar 19 02:03
gnufreex#speakMar 19 02:03
gnufreexor speak#Mar 19 02:03
schestowitzgnufreex: worth a few millionsMar 19 02:05
gnufreexwhat worth few milions?Mar 19 02:06
schestowitz"we? Unethical? Look at this <points at silly web page with 'award' from unknown, proprietary 'survey'>"Mar 19 02:06
schestowitzNot even a surveyMar 19 02:06
schestowitzJust some random thing with Todd Bishill covering itMar 19 02:06
schestowitz"Hey, Steve, just point here if people call you criminalMar 19 02:06
schestowitzKissinger war criminal? /melaughs but he has nobel peace price :-)Mar 19 02:07
schestowitz*prizeMar 19 02:07
DaemonFCHitler was Time Magazine's man of the yearMar 19 02:07
DaemonFC:)Mar 19 02:07
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cubezzzbut was Orwell right?Mar 19 02:08
cubezzzat least partiallyMar 19 02:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] "People are people so why should it be, you and i should get along so awfully?" !q Depeche ModeMar 19 02:12
DaemonFC"Now I can make all those government mandated upgrades you've all been suing me about!"Mar 19 02:17
DaemonFCB-)Mar 19 02:17
DaemonFCheheMar 19 02:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Biology's 'dark matter' hints at fourth domain of life - http://bit.ly/h3fRDp exciting stuff from @phylogenomicsMar 19 02:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] I'm hooked on listening to the interviews on Pilipinas Got Talent. It's Phillipine with Spanish and English mixed in. http://ur1.ca/3knunMar 19 02:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Oh my God! Porn is officially on the Internet! - http://zd.net/hh4rcs .xxx domain finally coming - but "owned" by one company #monopoliesMar 19 02:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Dutch Court Rules WiFi Hacking Is Now Legal - http://bit.ly/eOrVCD curious #nl #wifiMar 19 02:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @m3tti: #trisquel 4.5 RC is out take a look once again the team made a damn good job. Awesome style and easy to use #gnu #fsf #libreMar 19 02:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Check out What’s Coming Soon in #Firefox 4 - http://bit.ly/h7GO7s the official video #mozillaMar 19 02:22
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/janstedehouder/status/49013621732282368 https://twitter.com/janstedehouder/status/49021625613549568Mar 19 02:28
TechrightsBot-tr@janstedehouder: @schestowitz .. which is a big problem when a government decides to force it's citizens to use online services, including the elderlyMar 19 02:28
TechrightsBot-tr@janstedehouder: @schestowitz Did you read the specs on the website. It *is* a regular desktop. Not like SimPC (in the Netherlands)Mar 19 02:28
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schestowitzOohhh.. http://www.maplin.co.uk/aoc-22-inch-full-hd-1080p-monitor-351770Mar 19 02:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] More on Robert #Halfon, UK Universities, & Libyan Money - http://bit.ly/ghV0gG post on parliamentary privilege et al. (v @DavidAllenGreen)Mar 19 02:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Survey: Android Tablets "Sad state of Open Source" http://is.gd/UyxhdqMar 19 02:36
schestowitzFree delivery, tooMar 19 02:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Using #Twitter to Preserve Minority Languages - http://rww.to/gkUU3x helping sustain virtual linguistic communities #languagesMar 19 02:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ASUS EP101TC tablet drops Windows for Android http://is.gd/dyUzjN #asus #microsoft #windows #gnu #linux #android #mobileMar 19 02:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Peter Biddle of #Intel On the Benefits of #MeeGo and a Compelling Eco-System for Developers - http://rww.to/hEMa0H I hope so, but... #linuxMar 19 02:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Cisco announces Android and Ubuntu-based tablets http://is.gd/lDXnIQ #cisco #ubuntu #android #mobile #gnu #linuxMar 19 02:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Martin Owens: Post-Open Source, Why Web and Mobile aren’t http://goo.gl/MoxufMar 19 02:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Bradley M. Kuhn: Questioning The Original Analysis On The Bionic Debate http://goo.gl/PAHgM !gnu !androidMar 19 02:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Seif Lotfy: Quick update from the World of #Zeitgeist http://goo.gl/UXipuMar 19 02:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @glynmoody: Check out What’s Coming Soon in #Firefox 4 - http://bit.ly/h7GO7s the official video #mozillaMar 19 02:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @glynmoody: Dutch Court Rules WiFi Hacking Is Now Legal - http://bit.ly/eOrVCD curious #nl #wifiMar 19 02:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @JohnFMoore: Restrictions are killing #opengov http://om.ly/BPhea #opendataMar 19 02:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] US Copyright Group Drops Cases Against Alleged Hurt Locker Pirates - http://bit.ly/dFMtwQ but why...? #copyrightMar 19 02:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @thistleweb: ♺ @debian: #Debian has been accepted as a mentoring organization for this year's #Google Summer Of Code. #gsocMar 19 02:49
schestowitzhttp://images.maplin.co.uk/full/A69JU.jpgMar 19 02:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Author Of Ridiculous '#Piracy' Report Defends Conclusions, Ignores Questions About Methodology - http://bit.ly/ghllIR well, of course #auMar 19 02:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @My_Maemo: Ankiqt900 for the N900 - spaced repetition system (SRS) to quickly learn and remember things: http://My-Maemo.com/?p=7137Mar 19 03:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @My_Maemo: Mouhoposter for the N900 - sends photos to IRC: http://My-Maemo.com/?p=7136Mar 19 03:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @My_Maemo: New N900 games at Ovi: Smiles, DiceRoller and Darth Flier: http://My-Maemo.com/?p=7133Mar 19 03:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @My_Maemo: Simple ToDo List homescreen widget for the N900: http://My-Maemo.com/?p=7134Mar 19 03:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @My_Maemo: PhoneStream - streams N900's camera or microphone to desktop PC: http://My-Maemo.com/?p=7135Mar 19 03:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Un apel pentru menținerea neutralității Web-ului și folosirii Standardelor Deschise http://is.gd/dUsgM0 #romania #netneutralityMar 19 03:37
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schestowitzhttp://kamikazow.wordpress.com/2011/03/16/short-review-of-gnome-shell/Mar 19 03:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Good morning, all! Yes, I slept in obscenely.... :DMar 19 03:42
schestowitzhttp://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/monitors-and-projectors-354-c.htmlMar 19 03:43
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schestowitzToo expensive... :-/Mar 19 03:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] “UN decision on #Libya: End game for Qaddafi?” — http://goo.gl/XCq21Mar 19 03:51
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schestowitzjono should see this http://www.shermann.name/2011/03/awesome.htmlMar 19 04:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] #bugzap Just reported [Bug 689051] Blender UI problem http://b1t.it/dlvMar 19 04:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Trying to get this rendered Ogg finished...Mar 19 04:41
sebsebsebschestowitz: Firefox 4 this Tuesday going by versions I tried when testing out  Ubuntu 11.04 alpha 1 and 2 without Unity in virtual machine, I am a bit hmm whe it comes to itMar 19 04:44
sebsebsebTuesday isn't longn owMar 19 04:44
schestowitzhttp://ostatic.com/blog/mageia-moves-forward-releases-alpha-2Mar 19 04:44
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sebsebseband I have been useing Firefox as my main browser for well a very long time 0.8 :)Mar 19 04:44
MinceRgeekingsMar 19 04:45
sebsebsebso of course rather used to the 3 series nowMar 19 04:45
schestowitzsebsebseb: same hreMar 19 04:45
schestowitz0.7 IIRCMar 19 04:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] @lxoliva So, someone wants to use Broadcom wireless to play Nexuiz online with 3D accelerated Nvidia graphics card. What do they do?Mar 19 04:46
schestowitzsebsebseb: yes, Tuesday is near... my connection broke this morningMar 19 04:46
sebsebsebschestowitz: I saw this http://ostatic.com/blog/mandriva-releases-2011-beta-1Mar 19 04:46
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schestowitzBut BT handles it weirdly too, it might be trickier than I hopedMar 19 04:46
sebsebsebwhich mentions Mageia a bit, but not seen anything proper from ostastic about alpha 2Mar 19 04:46
sebsebsebyetMar 19 04:46
sebsebsebso let's see your linkMar 19 04:46
sebsebseblet's go on your linkMar 19 04:46
schestowitzNo face-to-face interactionMar 19 04:46
schestowitz"Mar 19 04:47
schestowitzYour BT equipment will arrive before 6pm on 22/03/11.Mar 19 04:47
schestowitzYou don't need to be in to sign for it. If you aren't in, we'll leave your parcel in a secure location at your property, with a neighbour or take it back to our delivery office. Either way we'll leave you an advice card to let you know where it is, or help you make alternative arrangements for delivery.Mar 19 04:47
schestowitzPlease note: The Royal Mail may make deliveries up to 8pm if there have been unforeseen circumstances which have delayed deliveries being completed by 6pm.Mar 19 04:47
schestowitz"Mar 19 04:47
sebsebsebschestowitz: I told you BT are a bad ISPMar 19 04:47
schestowitzIn what sense?Mar 19 04:47
sebsebsebanyway nice the link you just gave has a screenshot with Libre Office showing in the menu :)Mar 19 04:47
sebsebsebthe Mageia alpha 2 stuff I have seen so far, it has all sucked so farMar 19 04:48
sebsebseb,but this one looks okMar 19 04:48
schestowitz"Mar 19 04:48
schestowitzContacting usMar 19 04:48
schestowitzPlease don't reply to this email.Mar 19 04:48
schestowitzIf your equipment hasn't arrived by 6pm, please call us on 0800 731 0265 if you've ordered BT Total Broadband Option 1, 2, or 3, 0800 800 150 if you've ordered BT Infinity, or 0800 783 2326 if you've ordered BT Total Broadband Anywhere.Mar 19 04:48
schestowitzFor BT Vision equipment enquiries, please call 0800 800 900.Mar 19 04:48
schestowitz"Mar 19 04:48
sebsebsebalso I haven't bothered downloading alpha 2 yetMar 19 04:48
sebsebsebMageia though :)Mar 19 04:48
sebsebsebschestowitz: well issues getting people off BT and connecting them, I guessMar 19 04:48
sebsebsebschestowitz: going by what someone told me a few times online beforeMar 19 04:48
sebsebsebanyway I just noticed, that screenshot on ostastic is using that Mageia Alpha 1 wall paper that someone made hmmMar 19 04:49
schestowitzyes, cause they want to make it hard and they canMar 19 04:49
schestowitzBut I also heard having the line with the BT can make it simpler because it can take a month and be expensive to move, e.g. from Sky to Virgin (via BTW)Mar 19 04:49
schestowitz*via BTMar 19 04:49
sebsebsebYeah this is kind of funny: http://ostatic.com/files/sl_mageia1a2_kde-desktop.jpgMar 19 04:49
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sebsebsebit's apparnetly alpha 2, but it's showing that alpha 1 wall paper someone madeMar 19 04:50
sebsebsebhttp://ostatic.com/files/sl_mageia1a2_kde-desktop.jpg  Mageia :)Mar 19 04:50
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schestowitzWhat repos will it have?Mar 19 04:50
schestowitzAnd will it be mandriva-compatible?Mar 19 04:51
sebsebsebschestowitz: I'll link you to something later on identica, after I have replied again by the way, to do with GPL and Android apparnatly braking itMar 19 04:51
sebsebsebit's a fork of Mandriva soMar 19 04:51
sebsebsebI guess it has pretty much all the Mandriva stuffMar 19 04:51
sebsebsebre branding for alpha 1, and then becomes more of it's own thing after thatMar 19 04:51
sebsebseboh and of course LIbre Office by default, apparnatly Mandriva are staying with Open OfficeMar 19 04:52
oiaohmsebsebseb: I know a odd ish question.  Will mageia have the option of longterm version of the Linux kernel?Mar 19 04:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] !crunchbang statler !linux review by @kevie http://kmacphail.blogspot.com/2011/03/crunchbang-statler-r20110207-review.htmlMar 19 04:54
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schestowitzLinux: lubuntu http://jjinux.blogspot.com/2011/03/linux-lubuntu.htmlMar 19 04:55
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oiaohmSome of the Ubuntu arguments over that they had the right to do what they did are just a laugh.Mar 19 04:56
sebsebseboiaohm: no idea, maybe later on, I think for Mageia 1 they will be pretty stubborn, it's their way and that's that, not really open to outside suggestions, but then after the first stable Mageia 1 release, I think they will be much more open to ouside suggestions :)Mar 19 04:56
sebsebseboiaohm: about what?Mar 19 04:56
sebsebsebUbuntu arguements about what?Mar 19 04:57
schestowitzsebsebseb: look what a mandriva dude has just done http://linsec.ca/blog/2011/03/14/ok-im-committed-now/Mar 19 04:57
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sebsebseboiaohm: yesterday I was educating someone a bit about Linux distro's and opensource/freesoftware in general, that was fun :)Mar 19 04:57
oiaohmhttp://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Apache-Harmony-loses-project-manager-1210343.html  <<Not looking good for HarmonyMar 19 04:59
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schestowitzsebsebseb: try fedora... http://www.linuxdistroreview.com/fedora-14Mar 19 04:59
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sebsebsebschestowitz: and then when Microsoft buys out Redhat for six billlion dollers he will regreat having tattoo!Mar 19 04:59
oiaohmsebsebseb: One of there super poor points is  that a copyright license gave you the right todo anything to a program.Mar 19 04:59
oiaohmsebsebseb: of course trademarks are not covered by copyright.Mar 19 05:00
oiaohmsebsebseb: some copyrights cover patents others don't.Mar 19 05:00
oiaohmsebsebseb: basically legal minefield from hell if you don't watch yourself.Mar 19 05:00
sebsebsebschestowitz: also that's a bit extrame having a tattoo of a Linux distrbuter logoMar 19 05:00
oiaohmWish I could find one book.Mar 19 05:01
oiaohmA guy had all the alter OS of 1995 tattooed on him.  sebsebsebMar 19 05:01
sebsebseboiaohm: yeah they can relisense as propritary softwareMar 19 05:01
oiaohmTechically if you own all the source code of open source program you can relisense it.Mar 19 05:02
sebsebseboiaohm: exactlyMar 19 05:02
sebsebsebwhich is why peopel worry about CanonicalMar 19 05:02
oiaohmThat is the problem with Ubuntu contribiture agreements.Mar 19 05:02
sebsebsebexactly indeedMar 19 05:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Pentagon Papers leaker: 'I was Bradley Manning' | CNN http://is.gd/TAexDn !wlMar 19 05:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] If you want a Debian based distro, build it on Debian. Ubuntu derivatives are generally just half-baked respins (ie remastersys).Mar 19 05:02
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oiaohmCanonical is showing its true colors at long last.Mar 19 05:03
sebsebseboiaohm: anyway I am starting to really feel a bit frustrated at times, when I keep on reading more and more Ubuntu junk online!Mar 19 05:03
oiaohmFrom the start they have been bad.Mar 19 05:03
sebsebsebI mean articles blog enteries and  ignorant comments about things and uhMar 19 05:03
sebsebseboiaohm: also Linux articles blog enteries well quite a lot of them,  I just find junk now, so much of this junk out there.  and loads of it over the years,  loads of opinion stuff and uhMar 19 05:04
sebsebsebI used to like reading this kind of stuff a lot, but not so much anymoreMar 19 05:04
sebsebsebso much drama when it comes to LInuxMar 19 05:04
oiaohmnet_facedjerk in osnews made the mistake of bring up the Linux kernel lack of kernel abi while I was around.Mar 19 05:04
sebsebseboh and schestowitz 's brain is getting cluttered up by all this stuff heh hehMar 19 05:04
oiaohmIts one of the worst topics to try against me.Mar 19 05:04
sebsebsebschestowitz wasn't it nice, a break away from Linux aritcle/blog entry and all that land?Mar 19 05:05
schestowitzNot much was missedMar 19 05:05
schestowitzI read through some of it ATMMar 19 05:05
schestowitze.g. http://www.junauza.com/2011/03/why-linux-desktop-is-still-not-winning.htmlMar 19 05:05
oiaohmIe Linux userspace interface api/abi is 100 percent dependable and you can write drivers using it.Mar 19 05:05
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sebsebsebschestowitz: I am trying to catch up a bit on Linux stuff right now myself,  problem is, once catched up it's the next day, and well much more of this stuffMar 19 05:05
sebsebsebInternet really is dailyMar 19 05:05
oiaohmTo be correct we have a lot to blame Linux distributions unwillingness to work with each other for.Mar 19 05:07
sebsebsebI read this one last night and quite like the first part of it: http://maketecheasier.com/fedora-15-vs-ubuntu-natty-narwhal-the-battle-for-your-next-desktop/2011/03/17Mar 19 05:07
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sebsebsebI guess in a way yeah we are getting welcome change to Linux distro's, now most of them won't look pretty much the same anymoreMar 19 05:08
sebsebsebwhen using GnomeMar 19 05:08
oiaohmReally many things hare happening.Mar 19 05:08
sebsebsebschestowitz: ^Mar 19 05:08
oiaohmdri2 techically should allow 2 different distributions with graphics to be on the same kernel.  ie one X11/Wayland server windowed inside the other.Mar 19 05:09
sebsebsebsome will use Gnome 2 still, and their changes for example, others will use Gnome Shell, and Ubuntu will use Unity, so yeah Gnome  really won't be that similar in the next lot of new versions of distro'sMar 19 05:09
oiaohmAlso this will bring virtual machines with proper working opengl support as well.Mar 19 05:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] q "They say patriotism is the last refuge to which the scoundrel clings..." ~ Bob Dylan, "Sweetheart Like You" from "Infidels"Mar 19 05:09
oiaohmGnome I am hoping with the talks I have had with particular people in there.  That there relationship with freedesktop will get back on track.Mar 19 05:10
oiaohmAnd we hopefully will see a growth in standards.Mar 19 05:10
sebsebsebalso wow how did elementryos do it?  shut down and log out and lock screen in the shut down menu where meant to be in the system menu, but also Canonica's Gnome 2 patches on top right?  only way I could do it in Ubuntu was removing the junk from the top right as far as I know, to get back in system menu http://www.techdrivein.com/2011/03/elementary-os-beta-reviewed-very.htmlMar 19 05:10
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sebsebsebschestowitz: elementryos it seems could be a good Ubuntu based distro, apparnatly at the moment their isn't really a public try ISO for it thoughMar 19 05:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] S3TC For Mesa Is Talked About Some More: Discussions surrounding S3TC Texture Compression support for mainline M... http://bit.ly/iemRPmMar 19 05:11
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sebsebseboiaohm: a lot of omgubuntu people are anti Gnome it seems, going by comments on that siteMar 19 05:11
sebsebseboiaohm: they seem to think it's really hard to get Gnome to accept changes from Ubuntu/CanonicalMar 19 05:12
oiaohmThere has been a major issue between freedesktop and gnome.Mar 19 05:12
oiaohmIts based on a myth.Mar 19 05:12
sebsebseband there's been loads of junk on the web quite recently about Gnome KDE and FreeDesktop uhMar 19 05:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] is it me or do pictures of #Tory conferences look like an audience made up from a day out for residents of an old folks home?Mar 19 05:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] possibly an audience of people with short term memory issues and an ageing bullshit filter that doesn't quite register when they hear itMar 19 05:12
sebsebseband Unity above yeahMar 19 05:13
oiaohmThe myth is a freedesktop standard gnome reject ceases to be a standard.  sebsebsebMar 19 05:13
sebsebseband UbuntuMar 19 05:13
sebsebseball  of those I meanMar 19 05:13
oiaohmWhat is not in fact the case.Mar 19 05:13
sebsebsebto much ignornace surrouding Ubuntu these days for my likeingMar 19 05:13
sebsebseband most of the new users will be pretty ignorant for a long time as well, it seemsMar 19 05:14
oiaohmReally the Ubuntu Gnome fight opened me a window to talk to particularly people in gnome would not talk to me about freedesktop otherwise.Mar 19 05:14
sebsebsebalso people who think they woudn't be using Desktop Linux if it wasn't for Ubuntu, heh heh,  rubbish, if Ubuntu hadn't come along, Mandriva or OpenSuse or something would have been the most popular todayMar 19 05:14
oiaohmSo I don't see it as 100 percent bad.Mar 19 05:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] people who forgot what happened last week do tend to accept what you've spun several times as new because it's new to themMar 19 05:14
sebsebsebor Fedora evenMar 19 05:14
oiaohmReally Cannanical might hate what I have planned.Mar 19 05:14
sebsebseboiaohm: oh?Mar 19 05:15
oiaohmIf I can get Gnome and KDE proper working with freedesktop.  The standard production can go up by a factor of 20.Mar 19 05:15
oiaohmAnd that will mean many times more work for Unity.Mar 19 05:15
sebsebsebmaybe PC Linux OS would have been the most popular even, if Ubuntu hadn't come alongMar 19 05:16
oiaohmUbuntu will fadeMar 19 05:16
sebsebseboiaohm: something else there has been stuff recently about how like 61% or whatever of distro's are based on Debian some howMar 19 05:16
sebsebsebin a way I don't like Debian that much now even, not 100% fairly though, because of how it helps Ubuntu big timeMar 19 05:16
oiaohmReally lot of the Debian camp hate Ubuntu.Mar 19 05:17
amarsh04posted recently to groklaw.net: http://agimo.govspace.gov.au/whole-of-government-common-operating-environment-discussion-paper/Mar 19 05:17
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sebsebseband then the whole thing about, people thinking distro's based on Ubuntu or Debian are so great, because well  Ubuntu was based on Debian, know what I mean?Mar 19 05:17
oiaohmYou have to remember the founder of Ubuntu lost is maintainership location in debian due to making packages unstable.Mar 19 05:18
sebsebseboiaohm: well yeah, but here's a interesting one on this subject: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/03/ubuntus-cto-reveals-dex-an-effort-to-close-the-gap-with-debian/Mar 19 05:18
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sebsebseboiaohm: Did he, I don't know much about Mark Shuttleworth and when he used to be a Debian developer, if anything really, other than that he was one.Mar 19 05:19
sebsebseboiaohm: also this is interesting: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/03/debian-cut-a-new-rolling-release/Mar 19 05:19
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sebsebsebhttp://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/03/debian-cut-a-new-rolling-release/Mar 19 05:19
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schestowitzYes, seeen that todayMar 19 05:20
sebsebsebhttp://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/03/ubuntus-cto-reveals-dex-an-effort-to-close-the-gap-with-debian/Mar 19 05:20
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sebsebsebalso there was a ask Matt Zimmerman questions on IRC session yesterday, I was in it :DMar 19 05:20
oiaohmFunny.Mar 19 05:21
sebsebseboiaohm: funny ?Mar 19 05:21
oiaohmThe biggest problem with debian is a failure to work with upstream with sending patches.Mar 19 05:21
oiaohmyet Ubuntu is going out of there way to work with them.Mar 19 05:21
sebsebsebuh well Ubuntu/Canonical call Debian upstream a lot of the time!Mar 19 05:21
sebsebsebapparantly Debian is really great as well, and blah de blah, according to quite a lot of the Ubuntu and Canonical peopleMar 19 05:22
oiaohmHistory is repeating.Mar 19 05:22
oiaohmThe problem in Ubuntu is there maintainers are mostly novices.Mar 19 05:23
oiaohmSo Debian would look like upstream to them.Mar 19 05:23
sebsebsebmaintainers, packagers you mean or?Mar 19 05:23
oiaohmNot the source where it started from.Mar 19 05:23
oiaohmpackage maintainers sebsebsebMar 19 05:24
sebsebsebhmm okMar 19 05:24
sebsebseboh okMar 19 05:24
oiaohmSo its most likely wise for them to aim to work better with debian upstream.Mar 19 05:24
oiaohmNow of course there can be a downside to this.Mar 19 05:25
oiaohmwhat stops their package maintainers getting more skilled and just moving up stream.  sebsebsebMar 19 05:25
oiaohmslowly eating away there means to be different.Mar 19 05:25
sebsebsebuh the fanboyism and fanboygirlism, oh Ubuntu is so amazing, it's going to make free software go main strame? :DMar 19 05:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @psquid: Hm, xfce is rather nice. Has much of I what I like about GNOME, but is much lighter. :)Mar 19 05:26
sebsebseboiaohm: I used to want it to go main strame, now I think I am quite happy with most computer users being on Windows at the moment really.Mar 19 05:26
sebsebseboiaohm: untill Desktop Linux distro's as a whole are a bit more improved, but well that's coming,  Gnome 3,  btrfs and so on, you knowMar 19 05:27
sebsebsebthen when Desktop Linux as a whole is more improved by quite a bitMar 19 05:27
sebsebseboh yes that could be something more than one Linux distro going main streameMar 19 05:27
oiaohmReally freedombox will most likely be more important to home users.Mar 19 05:27
sebsebsebfreedombox ?Mar 19 05:27
oiaohmfreedombox goal is is to build a OS for a home server that is simple to maintain.  sebsebsebMar 19 05:28
sebsebsebI don't want this situation when it comes to most popular Desktop OS's.  1.  Windows 2. Mac OS X 3.  Ubuntu 4. other Linux distro's  5. BSD  6. other OS'sMar 19 05:28
oiaohmgtk 3.2 support html5 as a output.Mar 19 05:29
oiaohmSo a freedombox in theory could serve up gimp......Mar 19 05:29
sebsebsebaltough saying that, I seemed to want that before, when I was a ignorant Ubuntu fan boy!Mar 19 05:29
sebsebsebignorant and slightly imatture or childish at times Ubuntu fan boyMar 19 05:29
oiaohmBesides stuff like ipadsMar 19 05:29
oiaohmUbuntu will never run there.Mar 19 05:29
oiaohmYet html5 will.Mar 19 05:30
sebsebsebwell I guess I was a fan boy really, because of certain things I didMar 19 05:30
oiaohmNote freedombox project is a upstream project under debian.Mar 19 05:30
sebsebsebof course back then Ubuntu was reasonably good, but still hmmMar 19 05:30
oiaohmsebsebseb: I had gone threw my O that is cool stage by the time ubuntu turned up.Mar 19 05:31
sebsebseboiaohm: your oh what is cool stage, when it came to what?Mar 19 05:31
sebsebsebyour oh that is cool stage, with what?Mar 19 05:31
oiaohmmy history.  bsd.  debian redhat mandrake.     Liked mandrake hated particular applications.  So I insanely made mandrake-redhat hybrid in 1998Mar 19 05:31
sebsebseboh?Mar 19 05:32
oiaohmPlease note no library standards.Mar 19 05:32
oiaohmSo gtk qt and everything else did not work well.Mar 19 05:32
oiaohmAfter that hybrid I got my value for stablity.Mar 19 05:32
oiaohmOver features.Mar 19 05:33
oiaohmAnd went back to debian.Mar 19 05:33
oiaohmOf course I still liked trying other distributions os been debian openvz since.Mar 19 05:33
oiaohmYes even that I am a debian user I still hate particular things they do because it ruins my stablity.Mar 19 05:34
sebsebseboh okMar 19 05:34
oiaohmOf course I could always bit the bulit and build from scrach.Mar 19 05:35
oiaohmAs I do for custom items.Mar 19 05:35
oiaohmBut for my desktop machine no way am I putting myself threw that pain.Mar 19 05:35
oiaohmYes I know I am a dino to a lot of the new kids with over 20 years of posix system usage.Mar 19 05:36
sebsebseboiaohm: well sometimes older stuff is better really,  the old GDM and for many of us Grub 0.97 for exampleMar 19 05:37
sebsebsebwell apparnatly distro patched Grub 0.97 the old Grub you knowMar 19 05:37
sebsebsebdistro's aboveMar 19 05:37
sebsebseboiaohm: also Gnome 2 wellMar 19 05:37
sebsebsebstill need to try out the latest Gnome 3 some how really, but uhmmMar 19 05:37
sebsebsebGnome ShellMar 19 05:37
sebsebseb,but uhmmMar 19 05:37
sebsebseboiaohm: I really like Gnome 2 now,  used as my main one since 2004Mar 19 05:38
oiaohmThe thing is I am also old enough that kde 4.0 did not burn me because I read before I tried.Mar 19 05:38
sebsebsebok so in recent versions of Gnome 2 there are little end user noticeable features that I don't like that much, like GDM 2 and Mar 19 05:38
sebsebsebthe new icons in system menu, well for shut down I think that's a jokeMar 19 05:38
oiaohmI have always like KDE.Mar 19 05:38
sebsebseb,but eh I am not using GDM 2 in this distro anyway :)Mar 19 05:38
oiaohmI don't see that changing.Mar 19 05:38
oiaohmKDE presumes the user will want to play with it.Mar 19 05:38
sebsebseband the icons uhmm well  used to those icons now, and I could use another  theme, without them, but nahMar 19 05:38
sebsebseboiaohm: ,but anyway yeah overall really like Gnome 2 still :)Mar 19 05:39
sebsebsebso I think I will be using it at times, for quite  a while yet, even after Gnome 3 comes outMar 19 05:39
oiaohmI liked Gnome 1Mar 19 05:39
oiaohmGnome 2 started becoming restrictive in options.Mar 19 05:39
sebsebsebplus the first version of Gnome 3, doesn't have the weather feature and such yet,  but Gnome 3.2 probably willMar 19 05:39
oiaohmGnome 3 looks like its even more restricted in options.Mar 19 05:39
sebsebsebas for Gnome 1 I haven't even tried it, would be interesting to, what could I download to put in a vm to try it?Mar 19 05:39
sebsebsebalso I know some people had issues going from Gnome 1 to Gnome 2Mar 19 05:40
sebsebseband KDE 3 well, I should vm something for that really some time again :DMar 19 05:40
sebsebseboiaohm: anyway I remember reading basically some article  or blog post, that basically said,  when we get something that is properly stable and works wellMar 19 05:41
sebsebsebsomeone in Linux land, decides its time to make something newMar 19 05:41
sebsebsebor maybe that was a comment to something, but anyway good point thatMar 19 05:41
oiaohmAnd that is a myth.Mar 19 05:41
sebsebsebuh?Mar 19 05:41
sebsebsebwhat?Mar 19 05:41
oiaohmThe development is more like this.Mar 19 05:41
oiaohmDeveloper make a system to the max limits of the under libaries.Mar 19 05:42
oiaohmWith a stack hacks fixing up library errors.Mar 19 05:42
oiaohmAnd the developer eventionally go O crap.  Cannot fix all these stablity issues.Mar 19 05:42
oiaohmIf I redo these buggy libraries.Mar 19 05:42
oiaohmAt that point users get really upset.Mar 19 05:43
oiaohmBecause everything above those libraries breaks.Mar 19 05:43
oiaohmsebsebseb: IE developers don't change stuff if its not borked due to some reason.Mar 19 05:44
sebsebseboiaohm: we had this kind of convo about KDE 3Mar 19 05:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] Groklaw: Court Rejects Hotz's Motion 4 Protective Order & Lays Down the Rules; & March 10th Hearing Transcript as text: http://bit.ly/gAKKv0Mar 19 05:44
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sebsebseboiaohm: basically  for end users KDE 3 works great for a lot of them still, but under the hood,  issues here and there or whateverMar 19 05:44
oiaohmIts also why kernel changed from 2.2 to 2.4 to 2.6Mar 19 05:45
sebsebseboh okMar 19 05:45
oiaohmOk 2.0 2.2 2.4 2.6Mar 19 05:45
oiaohmBasically its a repeating patten of development that is the price of progress.Mar 19 05:45
oiaohmMost people don't know that 2.6 is the longest Linux has gone ever without a version change.Mar 19 05:45
oiaohmLinux kernel.Mar 19 05:46
sebsebsebohMar 19 05:47
sebsebseboiaohm: well now the Linux kernel is pretty great or whatever, it's just they add more features/bloat to it nowMar 19 05:47
sebsebsebLinus said/says the kernel is bloatedMar 19 05:47
oiaohmIt took them 4 attempts to get to this point. sebsebsebMar 19 05:47
sebsebsebuh  there was  a Linux 1.0 relesae or ?Mar 19 05:48
sebsebseb0  series or what?Mar 19 05:48
oiaohmThere is a 0.x and a 1.0 1.1 1.2 1.3Mar 19 05:48
oiaohmWhat I try to disrguard.Mar 19 05:48
oiaohmEach one was not compadible with each other at all.Mar 19 05:49
oiaohmThen you look at KDE.  Desktop is far more complex really than kernel to get right.Mar 19 05:50
oiaohmAnd KDE has not been through as many attempts as the kernel yet.Mar 19 05:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @rsandu: ASUS EP101TC tablet drops Windows for Android http://is.gd/dyUzjN #asus #microsoft #windows #gnu #linux #android #mobileMar 19 05:51
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schestowitzGroklaw spends many cycles on SCOny nowMar 19 05:55
schestowitzI wish it had chosen to look at Apple (and Microsoft)Mar 19 05:55
oiaohmSCO just refused to die.Mar 19 05:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @themadhatter I've been told Evolution can be easily removed, I thought it was glued into GnomeMar 19 05:56
sebsebseboiaohm: well that was nice the person IMar 19 05:58
sebsebsebwas educating yesterday, just came on to thank me :)Mar 19 05:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] isn't "game changer" just a "brown paper bag" app which lets you pay money to the officials, which then pings their handset on the pitch?Mar 19 05:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @lobbywatcher: Lib. MP Carolyn Bennett was lobbied by Canada's Research-Based Pharmaceutical Companies on Feb. 11 http://bit.ly/h5w5mNMar 19 05:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @lobbywatcher: Lib. MP Navdeep Bains was lobbied by Canadian Generic Pharmaceutical Association on Feb. 11 http://bit.ly/glySatMar 19 05:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @lobbywatcher: Lib. MP Gerry Byrne was lobbied by Bell Canada on Feb. 15 http://bit.ly/eHIC9VMar 19 06:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @lobbywatcher: NDP MP Charlie Angus was lobbied by Bell Canada on Feb. 08 http://bit.ly/fc0Vy8Mar 19 06:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @lobbywatcher: CPC MP Dean Del Mastro was lobbied by Canadian Association of Broadcasters on Feb. 03 http://bit.ly/eTSxo3Mar 19 06:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @lobbywatcher: CPC MP Ed Fast was lobbied by Canadian Association of Broadcasters on Feb. 28 http://bit.ly/gEYgWGMar 19 06:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @themadhatter I've never tried it, I too assumed it was glued in, but apparently it can be removed leaving Gnome intact and functionalMar 19 06:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @lobbywatcher: CPC MP Richard Harris was lobbied by Suncor Energy Inc. on Feb. 09 http://bit.ly/huJMxpMar 19 06:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @lobbywatcher: Lib. MP Marlene Jennings was lobbied by Canada's Research-Based Pharmaceutical Companies on Feb. 17 http://bit.ly/hXRKuRMar 19 06:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @lobbywatcher: CPC MP Colin Mayes was lobbied by Suncor Energy Inc. on Feb. 09 http://bit.ly/icD4uKMar 19 06:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @lobbywatcher: Lib. MP Derek Lee was lobbied by Bell Canada on Feb. 15 http://bit.ly/fRR6aIMar 19 06:01
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oiaohmsebsebseb: Really Linux kernel world is focused on code cleaning.Mar 19 06:02
oiaohmsebsebseb: 2.6.39 will see another bit of the RT tree merged.Mar 19 06:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @lobbywatcher: Lib. MP Shawn Murphy was lobbied by Bell Canada on Feb. 15 http://bit.ly/fxjLVDMar 19 06:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @lobbywatcher: Lib. MP Bob Rae was lobbied by Canadian Generic Pharmaceutical Association on Feb. 11 http://bit.ly/gv9sShMar 19 06:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @lobbywatcher: Lib. MP Mario Silva was lobbied by Canadian Generic Pharmaceutical Association on Feb. 11 http://bit.ly/gKhbBuMar 19 06:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @lobbywatcher: CPC MP Dave Van Kesteren was lobbied by Bell Canada on Feb. 10 http://bit.ly/dNsUKnMar 19 06:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @lobbywatcher: CPC MP John Weston was lobbied by Suncor Energy Inc. on Feb. 09 http://bit.ly/i5rMCBMar 19 06:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @lobbywatcher: CPC MP Mike Wallace was lobbied by Bell Canada on Feb. 10 http://bit.ly/eAL9OEMar 19 06:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] So many Ubuntu derivatives, and the first thing that goes on the website is the donate button. Respins are an easy cash cow it seems.Mar 19 06:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @lobbywatcher: Senator Dennis Dawson was lobbied by Bell Canada on Feb. 15 http://bit.ly/egn9EaMar 19 06:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @themadhatter just googling https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Evolution as I said, I heard it somewhere, I've not triedMar 19 06:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @themadhatter I've found a few references to gnome-core instead of the regular gnome, which is a PITA, and not easyMar 19 06:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @p2pnet: Anonymous ‘dissidents’ spill the beans - says Gawker http://www.p2pnet.net/story/49806Mar 19 06:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @p2pnet: WiFi hacking legal in Holland. Court decision http://www.p2pnet.net/story/49807Mar 19 06:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Jordi's English Bloc » gbrainy 1.63 http://ping.fm/8FQYPMar 19 06:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @glynmoody: US Copyright Group Drops Cases Against Alleged Hurt Locker Pirates - http://bit.ly/dFMtwQ but why...? #copyrightMar 19 06:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @glynmoody: Using #Twitter to Preserve Minority Languages - http://rww.to/gkUU3x helping sustain virtual linguistic communities #languagesMar 19 06:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @glynmoody: Check out What’s Coming Soon in #Firefox 4 - http://bit.ly/h7GO7s the official video #mozillaMar 19 06:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Evolution does bring up a worrying aspect of the Novell / Microsoft fiasco, might be an idea to untangle it from Gnome nowMar 19 06:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @debian: #Debian has been accepted as a mentoring organization for this year's Google Summer Of Code. Prepare your project ideas and ....Mar 19 06:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @schestowitz: Giving Away #GNU #Linux Copies Of The New #Unigine Game http://ur1.ca/3kb5tMar 19 06:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @schestowitz: #Mozilla Wlready Working on #Firefox 4.0.1 Update http://ur1.ca/3knk1 #webbrowserMar 19 06:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @schestowitz: 10 Things to Drool Over in #Firefox 4 http://ur1.ca/3kfij yes in Firefox. Icaza "drools" over Silver Lie. http://ur1.ca/hrwcMar 19 06:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @schestowitz: "The F15 Alpha experience so far has been great" http://ur1.ca/3kniq #fedora #gnu #linuxMar 19 06:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @schestowitz: Gtk+ 3.2 Will Let You Run Any Application In A Browser (Remotely Too) http://ur1.ca/3knik the Web is the best platform+APIMar 19 06:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @schestowitz: What’s wrong with Unity & how we can fix it http://ur1.ca/3knhu with a name like "unity" i's hard to criticiseMar 19 06:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @schestowitz: #XBMC media center running on #ARM and Intel-based #MeeGo #Linux devices http://ur1.ca/3kne8 #mediqcentre #freedomMar 19 06:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] no app should be so tightly integrated into an environment that it can't be removed / replacedMar 19 06:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] On Low-End GPUs, Nouveau Speeds Past The NVIDIA Driver: While the Linux 2.6.38 kernel has been out for less than... http://bit.ly/i4wFq2Mar 19 06:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] #Mozilla #Drumbeat Hackfest in !Beijing !China, March 23–25. More info, EN: http://is.gd/bXgVe9 CN: http://is.gd/twTWtIMar 19 06:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] ReclaimNaija is #Nigeria's Election Incident Reporting system. First time I've heard of that http://ping.fm/S0Wr0Mar 19 06:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Music Industry Destroys Another Powerful Free Download Tool | TorrentFreak http://ow.ly/4hO7pMar 19 06:19
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schestowitzsebsebseb: education what on...?Mar 19 06:22
sebsebsebschestowitz: was telling someone about distro's and upstreams and Gnome and Ubuntu and Canonical and suchMar 19 06:23
sebsebsebyesterdayMar 19 06:23
schestowitzah, pkMar 19 06:24
schestowitz*okMar 19 06:24
schestowitzhm... 17 people in boycottnovell-socialMar 19 06:25
schestowitzNever had this many there, surely not on SaturdayMar 19 06:25
schestowitzI remember why we started that channelMar 19 06:25
schestowitzbalzac went and and on off topicMar 19 06:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @lobbywatcher: Lib. MP Bryon Wilfert was lobbied by Bell Canada on Feb. 15 http://bit.ly/h5DsKtMar 19 06:26
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schestowitzcubezzz: do you want to join channel #boycottnovell-social ?Mar 19 06:26
sebsebsebschestowitz: no less than that, since you have two names there, plus there's the botMar 19 06:26
sebsebsebalso oiaohm is really an alien, not a personMar 19 06:27
sebsebseb:DMar 19 06:27
sebsebsebschestowitz: oh yeah and you got your log nickMar 19 06:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @lobbywatcher: CPC MP Ed Fast was lobbied by CANADIAN RECORDING INDUSTRY ASSOCIATION (CRIA) on Feb. 15 http://bit.ly/ejxO9J #CRIAMar 19 06:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @lobbywatcher: CPC MP Ed Fast was lobbied by Corus Entertainment Inc. on Feb. 28 http://bit.ly/fdY43zMar 19 06:27
sebsebsebyou have three names in there like in hereMar 19 06:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] Of course @migueldeicaza is a member of both the Gnome and Evolution projects.Mar 19 06:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @lobbywatcher: NDP MP Claude Gravelle was lobbied by CANADIAN VEHICLE MANUFACTURERS' ASSOCIATION on Mar. 15 http://bit.ly/fLDnndMar 19 06:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @lobbywatcher: NDP MP Claude Gravelle was lobbied by Ford Motor Company of Canada, Ltd. on Feb. 15 http://bit.ly/e0ry4pMar 19 06:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @lobbywatcher: Bloc MP Michel Guimond was lobbied by Toyota Canada Inc. on Feb. 28 http://bit.ly/fxL4eXMar 19 06:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @lobbywatcher: Bloc MP Michel Guimond was lobbied by Toyota Canada Inc. on Jan. 31 http://bit.ly/efqpIvMar 19 06:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @doctorow: RT @Eaterofsun: Japan's record of nuclear cover-ups and accidents http://bit.ly/eNtjDgMar 19 06:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @dduane: What we should fear: #CATS WITH THUMBS. (alarming video here) http://bit.ly/ghBUen #theyrewatchingus :) #catcabalMar 19 06:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: What we must fear: …Cats with thumbs. | Diane Duane's weblog: "Out of Ambit" .::. Size~: 54.37 KBMar 19 06:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @Chevenga: #Chevenga #blogpost : Talking about doing it with Blue Coyote. http://bit.ly/eHzRml #weblit #amwritingMar 19 06:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @Ont_Ombudsman: Do u have a complaint about #G20 police misconduct? The OIPRD wants to hear from u: http://bit.ly/hzsFyt.Mar 19 06:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Virgin Mobile launches new, free music app in !Android Market | Android Central http://ping.fm/jj6ehMar 19 06:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Mexico: Telecom and Entertainment Industries Testify on ACTA - http://bit.ly/hr15Bq good summary of the battle for the digital soul thereMar 19 06:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] Something interesting that I got onto earlier this week, because of #Identica about a new type of #Pepsi bottle: http://ur1.ca/3jpe8Mar 19 06:39
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schestowitzhttp://www.digitimes.com/news/a20110316PD215.htmlMar 19 06:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Tell the EPA: Protect us from toxic mercury, arsenic, lead and other air pollution. http://bit.ly/gx4wESMar 19 06:41
schestowitzback to Linux thenMar 19 06:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @KarlSchroeder: Lost in all the bad news is the good news that the Messenger spacecraft has successfully gone into orbit around MercuryMar 19 06:44
schestowitzhttp://mrpogson.com/2011/03/18/first-day-of-actionsintentions-under-un-resolution/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurofighter_TyphoonMar 19 06:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @themadhatter the integration with all the calendar / notes / todo / email etc is a great asset, I can see why they don't want to remove itMar 19 06:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @themadhatter it does seem very risky to be dependent on it though, even setting aside the Novell political side, ANY appMar 19 06:49
schestowitzLOL http://www.zdnet.com/blog/apple/apple-reports-problems-with-usb-hubs-causing-system-instability/9743Mar 19 06:50
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schestowitzMinceR: ^^Mar 19 06:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] I've done it! It's gorgeous!!!Mar 19 06:51
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schestowitzhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsuite "NetSuite was originally named NetLedger by its founders, Larry Ellison and one of his early employees, Evan Goldberg."Mar 19 06:52
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MinceRlolMar 19 06:52
schestowitzEllison?!Mar 19 06:52
schestowitzThe fanbois will blame USBMar 19 06:52
schestowitzAnd pray for firwire comebackMar 19 06:52
schestowitz*fireMar 19 06:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] I fucking love Blender! Beats every commercial 3D modeller I know. If even I can use it..... :DMar 19 06:52
schestowitz"Die in a firewire!"Mar 19 06:53
schestowitz"NetSuite's major shareholder has been and continues to be Ellison, who financed the company's creation in late 1998 to develop on-demand ERP and CRM services. The ties between NetSuite and Oracle run deep: Ellison and his private investment group, Tako Ventures, currently control 74 percent of the company, and NetSuite's two top executives, CEO Zach Nelson and CTO/Chairman Evan Goldberg, spent time in Oracle's executive ranks."Mar 19 06:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] Good !Mageia 1 Alpha 2 review: http://ostatic.com/blog/mageia-moves-forward-releases-alpha-2 Hmm at wallpaper in screenshots!Mar 19 06:56
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MinceRactually ieee1394 seems like a good ideaMar 19 06:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Ethics of Intellectual Monopolies: the Video - http://bit.ly/i0m2iO my keynote at #fscons last year #copyright #patentsMar 19 07:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] @zotz indeedMar 19 07:13
schestowitzIt's quite clear that the mainstream hardly covers "Linux" anymoreMar 19 07:20
schestowitzIt covers Android ans dtuffMar 19 07:20
schestowitz*StuffMar 19 07:20
schestowitzMoreover, many news sites die and PR is taking over themMar 19 07:20
schestowitzThis is sad...Mar 19 07:20
schestowitzNews: brought to your by the covered companiesMar 19 07:21
schestowitzhttp://www.linuxinsider.com/rsstory/72005.htmlMar 19 07:22
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Welcome to LinuxInsider .::. Size~: 2.83 KBMar 19 07:22
schestowitzlike any toy, get oddly excited for a day, the following day it's in the pile of old toysMar 19 07:22
schestowitzA lot of people realise it's an accessoryMar 19 07:22
schestowitzWhen they want to get work done they use a computerMar 19 07:23
schestowitzNot a $500 gadgetMar 19 07:23
schestowitzgnufreex: http://www.linuxinsider.com/rsstory/72012.htmlMar 19 07:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Welcome to LinuxInsider .::. Size~: 2.84 KBMar 19 07:23
schestowitzThis gave the FUD group some foodMar 19 07:23
schestowitzO'GarOnionMar 19 07:23
gnufreexLol, he didn't stop at that, he later claimed Red Hat feeds patent trolls.Mar 19 07:24
amarsh04back in a few, rebooting into new kernelMar 19 07:24
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gnufreexAnd since they setled patent suit, the support patents, say onion.Mar 19 07:24
gnufreexCrazy logicMar 19 07:25
gnufreexThat is like saying MSFT supports GPL because they had to comply with it when they wanted to run Linux in HyperVMar 19 07:25
schestowitzgnufreex: O'Gara tooMar 19 07:27
schestowitzI will write about it later, bandwidth permittingMar 19 07:27
schestowitzgnufreex: yes, I saw thatMar 19 07:27
schestowitzHe tweeted me about it like 4 timesMar 19 07:27
schestowitzIdiotMar 19 07:27
gnufreexYeah, trolled me tooMar 19 07:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] Just got #LP2011 rolling. @brettcsmith giving the low-down on the GPL and mobile app markets.Mar 19 07:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @themadhatter I agree, I now have visions of the fallout from the AttachMate deal that they claim patents on Evolution, being a Novell appMar 19 07:27
gnufreexI ignored.Mar 19 07:28
schestowitzgnufreex: don't say they complied :-) Microsoft pretended it was by designMar 19 07:28
schestowitzNot by accident cause they violated the GPLMar 19 07:28
schestowitzRamji even said so... before he quit Microsoft. :-DMar 19 07:28
gnufreexYeah, they first violated.Mar 19 07:28
schestowitzMost ethical company EVA..Mar 19 07:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Evolution seems so well integrated that any patent threat would be easier to just cough up than remove it, or ditch #Gnome altogetherMar 19 07:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] #LP2011 people are also in #libreplanet on Freenode. !lp !fsfMar 19 07:29
schestowitzThe Revolutions appear to have lost momentumMar 19 07:29
gnufreexlolMar 19 07:30
schestowitzLibya is slow progress, so no thrill in politicsMar 19 07:30
schestowitzI am trying to realign our focusMar 19 07:30
schestowitzCause Linux=AndroidMar 19 07:30
schestowitzAnd distros=ubuntu derivsMar 19 07:30
schestowitzFedora 14 is not there yet...Mar 19 07:30
schestowitzI try to love Feodra, but Ubuntu really is a class of its own in many aspectsMar 19 07:30
gnufreexThat means we are screwed.Mar 19 07:30
schestowitzSort of... depends on goalsMar 19 07:30
schestowitzUbuntu/Mint: I get popups suggesting I get a blob for my cardMar 19 07:31
schestowitzFedora: oppositeMar 19 07:31
schestowitzBest effort to give best free driverMar 19 07:31
schestowitzDebian got freerMar 19 07:31
schestowitzAnd Peter Brown left FSFMar 19 07:31
gnufreexIs that conected somehow?Mar 19 07:32
schestowitzI'm not ready to move on, but not that Linux means what Linus wants it to be (Android and stuff), it's time to diversify a bitMar 19 07:32
schestowitzLinus won overMar 19 07:32
schestowitzHe even got his tivoisationMar 19 07:32
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schestowitz!google linus I love tivoizationMar 19 07:32
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Coding Horror: Tivoization and the GPL | http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/2008/02/tivoization-and-the-gpl.htmlMar 19 07:32
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Copyright [LWN.net] | http://lwn.net/Articles/311021/Mar 19 07:32
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Brave GNU License - Forbes.com | http://www.forbes.com/2006/03/21/linux-stallman-gnu_cx_dl_0321stallman1.htmlMar 19 07:32
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Linus vs. the GPLv3 | ZDNet | http://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/linus-vs-the-gplv3/1200Mar 19 07:32
schestowitzgnufreex: probably donations-relatedMar 19 07:33
gnufreexYeahMar 19 07:33
schestowitzAlso, people smeared FSF and RMS a lotMar 19 07:33
schestowitzSo they got to the point of being seen  as unimportantMar 19 07:33
schestowitzThe likes of IDG throw wood in this fireMar 19 07:33
sebsebsebschestowitz: Right well earlier  I said I would link you to something, here it is: http://identi.ca/conversation/66543147  May aswell have gnufreex going on that as well :DMar 19 07:33
schestowitzLike calling RMS in SpainMar 19 07:33
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schestowitzAnd then calling him a hypocrite for responding by phone cause it's how they wanted him available for chatMar 19 07:34
sebsebsebhttp://identi.ca/conversation/66543147Mar 19 07:34
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schestowitzSo FSF doesn't get much donationsMar 19 07:34
schestowitzSun and IBM don't need to bribe the FSF much to keep FSF on their sideMar 19 07:34
schestowitzAnd Google the same..Mar 19 07:34
schestowitz!google android fsf newsMar 19 07:34
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - News — Free Software Foundation — working together for free software | http://www.fsf.org/news/Mar 19 07:34
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Steer clear of Android Market and its DRM — Free Software ... | http://www.fsf.org/blogs/licensing/android-market-has-drm-tooMar 19 07:34
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - FSF responds to Oracle v. Google and the threat of software ... | http://www.fsf.org/news/oracle-v-googleMar 19 07:34
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - FSF calls for campaign against Oracle over Android case - IT News ... | http://www.v3.co.uk/v3-uk/news/2012046/fsf-calls-campaign-oracle-androidMar 19 07:34
schestowitzEFF has more power than FSF nowMar 19 07:35
schestowitzAnd EFF handles a broader spectrum of subjectsMar 19 07:35
schestowitzEFF follows me in identica BTW... it doesn't follow many at allMar 19 07:35
amarsh04terrific, ALSA 1.0.24 is in current (post 2.6.38) kernelMar 19 07:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] I feel sleepy... I need a coffee!Mar 19 07:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks/@wikileaks] wikileaks: Pentagon Papers leaker: 'I was Bradley Manning' | CNN http://is.gd/TAexDn http://bit.ly/hNnL21Mar 19 07:36
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schestowitzBut the EFF deals with copyrights, which the FSF has been covering as wellMar 19 07:36
schestowitzFSFE kind of lost momentum when Georg left... it has just turned 10Mar 19 07:36
schestowitzhttp://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Ten-years-of-the-Free-Software-Foundation-Europe-1206716.htmlMar 19 07:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ten years of the Free Software Foundation Europe - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 39.36 KBMar 19 07:37
gnufreexIt sucks. Only the sellouts succed.Mar 19 07:37
schestowitzIIRC, Soros throws a buck at EFFMar 19 07:37
schestowitzAlso...Mar 19 07:37
schestowitzImportantlyMar 19 07:37
schestowitzWatch the "FSF" !group in identicaMar 19 07:37
schestowitzI loses traffic/signal over timeMar 19 07:37
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schestowitzBack in the days when I was roaming Digg FSF had massive impactMar 19 07:37
schestowitzgnufreex: 0/Mar 19 07:38
GoForbes28hi royMar 19 07:38
schestowitzI replied to you on the wiki this morningMar 19 07:38
schestowitzI'm starting to read some older news nowMar 19 07:38
schestowitzBut still on cellularMar 19 07:38
*schestowitz 's brain gets fried from USB sourceMar 19 07:38
schestowitzGoForbes28: we need to ralignMar 19 07:39
schestowitzTo explain people why Android misses the point a lot of the timeMar 19 07:39
GoForbes28realign?Mar 19 07:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @rejon Flight attendants are the masters of smalltalk. Whole group of em talking about nothing and providing me free travel Intel.Mar 19 07:39
schestowitzOtherwise people call Android "Linux victory" and go home with their DRM-laden toysMar 19 07:39
schestowitzGoForbes28: realign as in rethink how to make contributionsMar 19 07:40
gnufreexschestowitz: But. I don't support FSF because I wait for it to take over they world. I support it because it is right thing. So I don't care if Tivoists get more popularity.Mar 19 07:40
schestowitzI used to spend time covering Microsoft a lot, then a bit more political stuff, but the real issue is the demise of freedomMar 19 07:40
schestowitzSee my personal site/blog for detailsMar 19 07:40
schestowitzFSF gets weaker, Linus adds members like PanaSCOnic, and everything had DRM, kill switches, tivoisationMar 19 07:41
gnufreexSo, sellouts can have their money. Im in it for freedom. Mar 19 07:41
schestowitzAnd then there's Fog Computing and Open 'Core' in FOSSMar 19 07:41
schestowitzBasically, half jobs doneMar 19 07:41
schestowitzLike when someone says buy a cat and you go get a wagon and call it a "Car"Mar 19 07:42
schestowitz*car/cat/Mar 19 07:42
MinceRfreedom is disappearing even outside ITMar 19 07:42
schestowitzMinceR: exactlyMar 19 07:42
MinceRhungary, wikileaks, ACTA, TPPMar 19 07:42
schestowitzBut it's all IT-dependentMar 19 07:42
schestowitzIf everything is SaaS junk, then we have no controlMar 19 07:42
schestowitzI am using Oracle 'hosted' thing todayMar 19 07:42
schestowitzIt sucks, I'm just a 'guest' on the SW I useMar 19 07:43
schestowitzIt's not even locally installedMar 19 07:43
gnufreexIT and software became a way to sneak fascism behind people's backMar 19 07:43
schestowitzThey also track me this wayMar 19 07:43
schestowitzI don't want every mouse movement of mine tracked and registered somewhere. Nobody should need this type of detailed information.Mar 19 07:44
schestowitzWhat good can come out of it. Excuse : "to enhance service", "to protect you"...Mar 19 07:44
*schestowitz takes a screenshot of MinceR's desktop every 5 seconds in case he has a heart attack, so I can phone an ambulanceMar 19 07:45
gnufreex"to enhance service... by making more money by selling your personal data, and then maybe we put more stuff into service when we don't know what to do with all the money"Mar 19 07:45
gnufreexso there, better serviceMar 19 07:46
schestowitz"But that RMS guy... he's fringe... crazy... loon.... he said phones are TEH STALIN!! LOL OMG"Mar 19 07:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] !Listening to the Dixie Chicks and enjoying the sun!Mar 19 07:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @themadhatter I do use xfceMar 19 07:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] question: would freeipa.org and samba.org combo be more than enough to yank out a m$ active server system?Mar 19 07:46
gnufreex"to protect you... from yourself. You don't know what's good for you"Mar 19 07:46
schestowitzRemember:Mar 19 07:46
schestowitzFreedom-aware = crazyMar 19 07:46
schestowitzSlave = conformist, commendableMar 19 07:46
gnufreex"People don't care about freedom. So you shouldn't care either"Mar 19 07:47
gnufreexscratch thatMar 19 07:47
schestowitzThey don't know freedomMar 19 07:47
gnufreex"Most People(tm) don't care about freedom. So you shouldn't care either"Mar 19 07:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] !Fedora #FAmSCo meeting minutes http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2011-03-19/famsco.2011-03-19-14.10.htmlMar 19 07:47
TechrightsBot-trTitle: #fedora-meeting Meeting .::. Size~: 2.29 KBMar 19 07:47
schestowitzSchools these days give "balance"Mar 19 07:47
schestowitzThey waste time teaching stupid stuff like religionsMar 19 07:48
gnufreexI am waiting the day when Microsfot will trademark "Most People"Mar 19 07:48
sebsebsebschestowitz: and Microsoft OfficeMar 19 07:48
schestowitzInstead of cautionary tales like 1984.. maybe http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/StasiMar 19 07:48
gnufreexOr "Reality"Mar 19 07:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Stasi - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 211.46 KBMar 19 07:48
gnufreexTheir marketing trolls use those words Mar 19 07:48
schestowitzgnufreex: people-ready?Mar 19 07:48
schestowitzgnufreex: "the real world"Mar 19 07:48
schestowitzgnufreex: common phrase for something elseMar 19 07:49
gnufreexNew product from RedmondMar 19 07:49
amarsh04current git head of Linus tree of kernel needs "# CONFIG_ACPI_APEI is not set " to build, but for a pre-acpi machine like mine, that's fineMar 19 07:49
gnufreexMicrosoft Real WorldMar 19 07:49
schestowitzamarsh04: 2.6.38?Mar 19 07:49
schestowitzamarsh04: what's your sname?Mar 19 07:49
schestowitz*unameMar 19 07:49
gnufreexThe virtual reality simulatorMar 19 07:49
amarsh04Linux victoria 2.6.38+ #15 SMP Sat Mar 19 19:47:24 CST 2011 i686 GNU/LinuxMar 19 07:50
amarsh04did a git pull earlier this eveningMar 19 07:50
schestowitzvictoria?Mar 19 07:50
amarsh04machine nameMar 19 07:50
schestowitzahMar 19 07:50
amarsh04dmesg is a bit more detailed: Linux version 2.6.38+ (root@am64) (gcc version 4.6.0 20110227 (experimental) [trunk revision 170543] (Debian 4.6-20110227-1) ) #15 SMP Sat Mar 19 19:47:24 CST 2011Mar 19 07:51
schestowitzhttp://www.linuxinsider.com/rsstory/72045.htmlMar 19 07:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux News: Legal: Who Are the FOSS Police? .::. Size~: 54.71 KBMar 19 07:51
schestowitzKim kept mailing meMar 19 07:51
schestowitzThe 'FOSS' companies that are parasitsMar 19 07:51
schestowitzOpenLogic, headed by former MicrosoftersMar 19 07:52
schestowitzNow they are busy telling people how it's all scary to comply with FOSS licencesMar 19 07:52
schestowitzLike proprietary is all simple...Mar 19 07:52
schestowitzLOLMar 19 07:52
schestowitzThese are the 'FOSS' companies we have... selling services around FUDMar 19 07:52
schestowitzBlack ***k tooMar 19 07:52
schestowitzFounded by a Microsoft dude, tooMar 19 07:53
GoForbes28schetowitz: "Like proprietary is all simple..."Mar 19 07:53
GoForbes28Take our friend Laurel for example: a simple font, no conclusive answerMar 19 07:53
amarsh04I've heard the line that it's too difficult for EDS to get approval to use Free Software in sa.gov.au, yet *.gov.au gives microsoft a blank chequeMar 19 07:53
*twitter (~pbj@173-17-111-185.client.mchsi.com) has joined #techrightsMar 19 07:53
schestowitzhttp://www.linuxinsider.com/rsstory/72057.htmlMar 19 07:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux News: Community: In Search of the King of the Linux Distros .::. Size~: 50.68 KBMar 19 07:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Calling all students - Fedora is part of Google Summer of Code 2011 - Apply now. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Summer_coding_ideas_for_2011Mar 19 07:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Summer coding ideas for 2011 - FedoraProject .::. Size~: 39.84 KBMar 19 07:54
schestowitzGoForbes28: indeedMar 19 07:54
schestowitzHow touchy she was about fontsMar 19 07:54
schestowitzOf all things...Mar 19 07:54
schestowitztwitter: we were just discussing the demise of FSF (IMHO)Mar 19 07:54
GoForbes28The FSF has survived through worseMar 19 07:55
sebsebsebschestowitz: GoForbes28 I saw some of that on identica as wellMar 19 07:55
sebsebsebschestowitz: GoForbes28 maybe she shuld use the Ubuntu font, she likes Ubuntu after all heh hehMar 19 07:55
GoForbes28YeahMar 19 07:56
GoForbes28How do you get the font from distrowatch?Mar 19 07:56
schestowitztwitter: You misunderstood what I had said about RSS feeds. I was suggesting something different, regarding what the sources of input to editors should be, not the outputMar 19 07:56
twitterdemise of FSF?Mar 19 07:56
schestowitzGoForbes28: what font?Mar 19 07:56
schestowitztwitter: weakeningMar 19 07:56
GoForbes28The new Ubuntu fontMar 19 07:56
twitterhow so?  Mar 19 07:56
GoForbes28used notably on distrowatchMar 19 07:56
schestowitzBrown leavingMar 19 07:56
GoForbes28Brown?Mar 19 07:56
schestowitzAnd their funding declining (maybe residue of economic collapse though)Mar 19 07:57
schestowitzAnd IDG does a number on RMSMar 19 07:57
GoForbes28The FSF has been through resessions beforeMar 19 07:57
GoForbes28IDG?Mar 19 07:57
GoForbes28link?Mar 19 07:57
schestowitzJoe MicrosoftMar 19 07:57
schestowitz!google stalin stallmanMar 19 07:57
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Richard Stallman: Cell Phones Are “Stalin's Dream” | Geekosystem | http://www.geekosystem.com/richard-stallman-cell-phones-stalins-dream/Mar 19 07:57
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Richard Stallman: Cell Phones Are 'Stalin's Dream' - Slashdot | http://mobile.slashdot.org/story/11/03/15/0432226/Richard-Stallman-Cell-Phones-Are-Stalins-Dream%3Ffrom%3DrssMar 19 07:57
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Cell phones are 'Stalin's dream,' says free software movement founder | http://www.networkworld.com/news/2011/031411-richard-stallman.htmlMar 19 07:57
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Software activist Richard Stallman calls cellphones “Stalin's ... | http://www.edibleapple.com/software-activist-richard-stallman-calls-cellphones-stalins-dream/Mar 19 07:57
twitterIDG is always doing a number on RMSMar 19 07:57
GoForbes28who care?Mar 19 07:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @howardknopf: RT @bsookman: "Persuasion should be based on truth rather than propaganda." say top UK judge http://bit.ly/h1mXFjMar 19 07:57
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Lord Neuberger's calls for open justice are welcome | Adam Wagner | Law | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 114.16 KBMar 19 07:57
twitterI read that article, it's not as bad as they used to be.Mar 19 07:58
twitterPJ linked to it.Mar 19 07:58
GoForbes28Doing a number on RMS is like doing a number on AnonymousMar 19 07:58
sebsebsebGoForbes28: schestowitz Had a connection issue there, so not sure if both of my font lines came inMar 19 07:58
GoForbes28RMS doesn't care, which is the proper response to ignoranceMar 19 07:58
schestowitzThey also linked to the "Microsoft loves open source" in itMar 19 07:58
schestowitzTalk about whitewashMar 19 07:58
sebsebseb[14:55] <sebsebseb> schestowitz: GoForbes28 I saw some of that on identica as wellMar 19 07:58
schestowitzhttp://www.opensource.org/blog/MicrosoftLovesOpenSource.htmlMar 19 07:58
sebsebseb[14:55] <sebsebseb> schestowitz: GoForbes28 maybe she shuld use the Ubuntu font, she likes Ubuntu after all heh hehMar 19 07:58
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft Loves Open Source | Open Source Initiative .::. Size~: 8.56 KBMar 19 07:58
twitterI had problems making payments to the FSF when I moved.  The change of address screwed things up.Mar 19 07:58
sebsebsebGoForbes28: schestowitz anyway a little problem with the Ubuntu font, I don't think all letters are ready yetMar 19 07:58
schestowitztwitter: PJ is occupied wit SCOny nowMar 19 07:59
twitterIt was a credit card problemMar 19 07:59
sebsebsebGoForbes28: schestowitz the propriratry software hasn't made all letters yet I thinkMar 19 07:59
GoForbes28If Microsoft likes Open Source, why aren't any of their main products Free software?Mar 19 07:59
twitterbut I doubt they missed my little $10/monthMar 19 07:59
sebsebsebGoForbes28: schestowitz I have read before that, that font was made using Mac / Mac OS XMar 19 07:59
sebsebsebGoForbes28: schestowitz propritary open fonts hmmMar 19 07:59
twitterI got it fixed but others might not when the chips are down.Mar 19 07:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @fabsh you should protest by suggestion and promoting really bizarre names "Wank Mag" or "cock cheese"Mar 19 07:59
GoForbes28There's a nice variant of Futura that is FreeMar 19 07:59
GoForbes28Futura being that font they use everywhereMar 19 08:00
twitterThe key to sustainable FSF funding is small, affordable payments by many people, like the March of Dimes did.Mar 19 08:00
sebsebsebyeah I was wondering what Futura is, sounds famailurMar 19 08:00
GoForbes28Ikea used it before going the stupid Microsoft font routeMar 19 08:00
sebsebseboh?Mar 19 08:00
GoForbes282001 and 2010 used it for their titlesMar 19 08:00
sebsebsebohMar 19 08:00
GoForbes28H O U S E M.D. uses itMar 19 08:00
sebsebsebwhat's that?Mar 19 08:01
GoForbes28a Tv showMar 19 08:01
schestowitzAnyhoo, it's not just about the FSF\Mar 19 08:01
sebsebsebohMar 19 08:01
twitterSo, how bad is the decline in FSF funding?Mar 19 08:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @fabsh I might be one of the few who use numbers, but if ya name it, the name is for marketing, meaning you expect peeps to use itMar 19 08:01
schestowitzBut about their goals not being metMar 19 08:01
twitterI can easily up my own payments now and probably will.Mar 19 08:01
GoForbes28Gnash is progresing nicelyMar 19 08:01
schestowitzThe message is the same (Which is fine), but the technology we have gets more restrictiveMar 19 08:01
GoForbes28Trisquel development pace seems normalMar 19 08:01
*sebsebseb isn't a Flash hater, oh sure it has caused me issues with Firefox in well mainly Ubuntu, but even soMar 19 08:02
schestowitzGoForbes28: gnash has financial issuesMar 19 08:02
GoForbes28Yeah, but there is still a set of non-restriction technology availableMar 19 08:02
schestowitzThey posted about it again some days agoMar 19 08:02
schestowitzLuckily, webm can trash flashMar 19 08:02
GoForbes28well that's a good think in the long runMar 19 08:02
sebsebsebplus Mandriva had a issue where it would like crash, and be like npviewer.bin crashed or whatever, with this like message with a bug picture on it, but that later got sorted out on it's own anyway, plus someone told me how to fix thatMar 19 08:02
schestowitzhttp://www.fsdaily.com/Community/Please_help_to_save_the_Gnash_projectMar 19 08:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Please help to save the Gnash project | fsdaily.com - Free Software News .::. Size~: 26.67 KBMar 19 08:02
GoForbes28Flash depreciating in the long run is the logical courseMar 19 08:03
sebsebsebGnash Swfdec uh huh, how about making a proper Flash alternative? and no HTML 5 probaby isn't really itMar 19 08:03
GoForbes28question, how example is technology any more restrictive now than a few months ago?Mar 19 08:03
schestowitzWhat will adobe do then? Sell Photos***?Mar 19 08:03
twitterI don't care what Adobe does.Mar 19 08:03
sebsebsebschestowitz: I don't like Photoshop either, but then again I am not a really a graphics designer either, but stillMar 19 08:04
schestowitzAdobe does pseudo-OSS?Mar 19 08:04
schestowitzLike many other companiesMar 19 08:04
sebsebsebschestowitz:  open source graphics programs though :)Mar 19 08:04
GoForbes28Unless FSF uses cell phones to program or orders computers purposely with a built-in TPM, I don't see the problemMar 19 08:04
twitterExcept when they put the DMCA on a Flash alternative, then I hope they die.Mar 19 08:04
*sebsebseb doesn't like how loads of people think the best stuff is from companiesMar 19 08:04
schestowitzLogs won't be posted till next week, but this was discussed just before you joined the channelMar 19 08:04
sebsebsebor useually think that they areMar 19 08:04
schestowitzVery few purely FOSS companies remainMar 19 08:04
*sebsebseb in fact I am annoyeed how the so called best stuff, is useually from tech companiesMar 19 08:04
sebsebsebwhen it comes to computersMar 19 08:04
GoForbes28I don't think many existed in the first placeMar 19 08:04
schestowitzMany were sold, some went dual, some proprietary, and many Fog ComputingMar 19 08:05
GoForbes28companies that isMar 19 08:05
GoForbes28it is the communities that are driversMar 19 08:05
twitterDebian is doing well.Mar 19 08:05
GoForbes28companies are just distractionsMar 19 08:05
schestowitzCompanies don't exist, people doMar 19 08:05
GoForbes28twitter: especially after the 6.0 releaseMar 19 08:05
twitterSqueeze is bigger and better than ever, though I don't like how the Free Desktop stuff is working.Mar 19 08:05
GoForbes28Roy: I meant froma  business senseMar 19 08:05
schestowitzCompanies are a collective for grouping names of people under common brand nameMar 19 08:05
GoForbes28yesMar 19 08:06
GoForbes28they are also often driven by business demands like making moneyMar 19 08:06
GoForbes28communities aren'tMar 19 08:06
twitterI think Free Desktop is complicated, buggy and Gnome like.Mar 19 08:06
schestowitzApache is an example of non-company with great productsMar 19 08:06
GoForbes28therefore, so long as communities exist, we are in good shapeMar 19 08:06
twitterGNU is an example of a non company ...Mar 19 08:06
GoForbes28it's a foundation, a communityMar 19 08:07
schestowitzthe GNU horse :-)Mar 19 08:07
schestowitzthe GNU horde :-)Mar 19 08:07
schestowitzGNU is like AnonymousMar 19 08:07
GoForbes28I suppose you could call it a non-profit company, but that would be disingenuousMar 19 08:07
GoForbes28a foundation has always been a community to meMar 19 08:07
schestowitzNot all companies have profitMar 19 08:07
GoForbes28trueMar 19 08:08
twitterGNU Hurd. Mar 19 08:08
twitterMicrosoft has big losses right now, ha ha.Mar 19 08:08
GoForbes28now that project has languishedMar 19 08:08
twitterThey just hide them with fraud. Mar 19 08:08
schestowitzMaybe in the USMar 19 08:08
amarsh04good, another small bug in Linus' tree gone, kernel builds fine with CONFIG_ACPI_APEI=yMar 19 08:08
GoForbes28twitter: You think my accounting prof would be more interested in thatMar 19 08:08
schestowitzThey can separate the company into subsidiaries and keep the real health of the company a secretMar 19 08:08
schestowitzLike WOrldCom and EnronMar 19 08:08
schestowitzDid fantastically wellMar 19 08:09
GoForbes28niceMar 19 08:09
schestowitzBased on their papersMar 19 08:09
*amarsh04 wonders how many kernel developers compile using gcc 4.6.xMar 19 08:09
GoForbes28I bet if I did a variable costing income statement, we could cut through the crapMar 19 08:09
GoForbes28I bet they are using absorptionMar 19 08:09
schestowitzTo me it's counter-intuitive that whole Windows and Office revenue is declining Microsoft reports "record profits"Mar 19 08:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] watching Glyn Moody's "Ethics of Intellectual Monopolies" video from Nov 2010 - http://ur1.ca/3kz26Mar 19 08:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @osamak http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giHIJgJS2sE is blocked in #SaudiArabia. #stupidcensorshipMar 19 08:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] just ate a few German bockwurst in months! I don't mind them being overpriced! Hmmmm...Mar 19 08:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: open...: Ethics of Intellectual Monopolies: the Video .::. Size~: 73.41 KBMar 19 08:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: YouTube       - Broadcast Yourself. .::. Size~: 17.38 KBMar 19 08:09
schestowitzWhat do they sell to make up for it, ZUNE?Mar 19 08:09
schestowitzBONG? They lose billions on that *********Mar 19 08:09
GoForbes28what is the percentages again?Mar 19 08:10
GoForbes28You mention how the make money on office and windows and lose money on everything elseMar 19 08:10
GoForbes28what were the % figures you mentioned?Mar 19 08:10
schestowitzmargins?Mar 19 08:10
GoForbes28yeahMar 19 08:11
gnufreex<GoForbes28> Unless FSF uses cell phones to program or orders computers purposely with a built-in TPM, I don't see the problem Mar 19 08:11
gnufreexWhat to do when 90% of people start using tivoized devices as their main computers? Sure, we can write Free Software and install it on those computers that are still not locked up, incresingly smaler number of people can use it. Mar 19 08:11
GoForbes28I don't see people using a cell phone or even a tablet to do all of their computingMar 19 08:11
gnufreexThey can use notebooks or tivoized laptopsMar 19 08:12
gnufreex*netbooksMar 19 08:12
schestowitztwitter: may I suggest wikifying the daily links digest so that people can add stuff to it before it's posted daily?Mar 19 08:12
GoForbes28tivoized laptops?Mar 19 08:12
schestowitzgoblin suggested this as a way of making the process efficientMar 19 08:12
GoForbes28laptops with trusted computing?Mar 19 08:12
schestowitzAnd more collaborativeMar 19 08:12
gnufreexApple is putting App Store on Mac GoForbes28Mar 19 08:12
twittersounds interesting, but I like your editorial choices in the links.Mar 19 08:13
gnufreexHP's Apotheker is saying that WebOS will have app store too Mar 19 08:13
gnufreexProbably locked downMar 19 08:13
GoForbes28Fortunately, Apple will ramin a niche productMar 19 08:13
gnufreexSo WebOS devices might get tivoized too.Mar 19 08:13
schestowitztwitter: but sometimes I can use help, assuming people will fill it with stuff they findMar 19 08:13
GoForbes28Well, so long as one can install something manualyl, there is still hopeMar 19 08:13
twitterthe process of link input is already very open with IRCMar 19 08:13
schestowitzDupe detection is an issueMar 19 08:13
gnufreexThat is why Balmer destroyed NokiaMar 19 08:13
schestowitztwitter: I guess soMar 19 08:14
gnufreexOnly device maker that was commited to making open devicesMar 19 08:14
twitteryes, it's a lot of work for you but that's what makes the site goodMar 19 08:14
schestowitzwiki deadlock is the most major impedimentMar 19 08:14
schestowitzArghh... NokiaMar 19 08:14
schestowitzhero to zero in one smell of Sweaty's artpitsMar 19 08:15
schestowitz*armMar 19 08:15
twitterwhat would be good is a way to automate link suggestion that categorizes and sorts for youMar 19 08:15
schestowitzCorrupt takeoverMar 19 08:15
GoForbes28Hopefully the employees rebelMar 19 08:15
schestowitztwitter: identicaMar 19 08:15
GoForbes28Then again, the Nortel CEO did whatever he wantedMar 19 08:15
GoForbes28Nokia the next Nortel?  MaybeMar 19 08:15
gnufreexGoForbes28: Nokia employees are now boosting .NET and praising WP7Mar 19 08:15
schestowitzThey risk losing their job if they rebelMar 19 08:16
twitterthat has to be PR that some Nokia employees are saying those thingsMar 19 08:16
schestowitzSCO is where you come to donate blood, Microsoft is where you come to sell your bonesMar 19 08:16
twitterremember that thousands of engineers walked off the job in protestMar 19 08:16
gnufreexSweatyB is paying Nokia bilions to cover the loses until they start making WP7 phonesMar 19 08:17
schestowitzin unisonMar 19 08:17
twitterI doubt that any of them has nice things to say about Microsoft trashMar 19 08:17
schestowitzTo avoid being firedMar 19 08:17
gnufreexBut they won't be paying foreverMar 19 08:17
schestowitzThey need a unionMar 19 08:17
schestowitzgnufreex: it's not finalMar 19 08:17
twitterhang together or hang separately Mar 19 08:17
GoForbes28schestowitz: that rarely happens in the tech sectorMar 19 08:17
schestowitzSee SEC filingMar 19 08:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] People I'm missing at #LP2011 -- @cwebber, @mlinksva, @evan, @lxoliva, @willkg, @bjgMar 19 08:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Sony mobile phone "good for sharing music with friends" http://tighturl.com/30w3 hmm, arn't Sony paid up members of the #RIAA?Mar 19 08:17
twitterbbl, I've got some work to do.Mar 19 08:17
schestowitzThey can still sack the mole and change course, although the damage has been doneMar 19 08:18
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Sony Ericsson W205 - Pay As You Go - And Reviews        - The Carphone Warehouse .::. Size~: 129.39 KBMar 19 08:18
schestowitzNow they can see more proof that Vista Phony 7 is a jokeMar 19 08:18
gnufreex<twitter> remember that thousands of engineers walked off the job in protestMar 19 08:18
gnufreexTThose are Symbian kernel devs. They get fired anyways.Mar 19 08:18
twitterWhat I wanted to do today is ask jono about his unreasonable perfectionism in his music.  I can do that later.Mar 19 08:18
twitterSymbian today, everything non Microsoft tomorrow. Mar 19 08:19
GoForbes28You know what would be awesome?Mar 19 08:19
schestowitzhttp://www.shermann.name/2011/03/awesome.htmlMar 19 08:19
TechrightsBot-trTitle: shermann.name: AWESOME! .::. Size~: 81.66 KBMar 19 08:19
schestowitz^ re jonoMar 19 08:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] how exactly do you "share music with friends" without breaking copyright laws? #p2p #Sony must have cracked that conundrumMar 19 08:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] I guess their lawyers have been busy doing other things in addition to hunting Geohotz for his work on the #PS3Mar 19 08:19
GoForbes28actually never mind, that wouldn't be awesome at allMar 19 08:19
schestowitzAwful maybe?Mar 19 08:20
gnufreexschestowitz: What flameware he talks about?Mar 19 08:20
gnufreexI don't see any linksMar 19 08:20
schestowitzhttp://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS5902944539.html?kc=rssMar 19 08:20
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Canonical tips Oneiric Ocelot release amid Ubuntu controversy .::. Size~: 47.4 KBMar 19 08:20
schestowitzgnufreex: the rockin' awesome one!Mar 19 08:20
gnufreexI must have missed it.Mar 19 08:20
gnufreexHave some links?Mar 19 08:20
schestowitzjeff waugh, I thinkMar 19 08:20
schestowitz!google gnome timeline best showMar 19 08:21
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Timeline: The Greatest Show on Earth | Be the signal | http://bethesignal.org/blog/2011/03/15/timeline-gnome-user-experience-hackfest-2008/Mar 19 08:21
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Moving the needle in GNOME | Be the signal | http://bethesignal.org/blog/2011/03/18/moving-needle-gnome-leadership/Mar 19 08:21
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - GNOME, Canonical Spat Continues | http://www.osnews.com/story/24520/GNOME_Canonical_Spat_ContinuesMar 19 08:21
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Tutorial on GNOME Activity Journal, Zeitgeist and Sezen « God ... | http://saravananthirumuruganathan.wordpress.com/2010/10/10/tutorial-on-gnome-activity-journal-zeitgeist-and-sezen/Mar 19 08:21
GoForbes28wowMar 19 08:21
GoForbes28just wowoMar 19 08:21
GoForbes28looks like Gubuntu will come out soonMar 19 08:21
sebsebsebschestowitz: Mark is the co-founder? That's what it says thereMar 19 08:22
schestowitzHeheMar 19 08:22
GoForbes28if this stupid behaviour continuesMar 19 08:22
schestowitzYou kid, no?Mar 19 08:22
schestowitzOhMar 19 08:22
schestowitzSarcasm indeedMar 19 08:22
schestowitzI wrote an article about it at the timeMar 19 08:22
sebsebsebschestowitz: on the link you just gaveMar 19 08:22
schestowitz!google datamation gobuntu schestowitzMar 19 08:22
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Gobuntu: A Truly Free Linux Distro or a Free Drivers Experiment ... | http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/osrc/article.php/3710061/Gobuntu-A-Truly-Free-Linux-Distro-or-a-Free-Drivers-Experiment.htmMar 19 08:22
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - The Role and Value of Truly Free Linux Distributions — Datamation.com | http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/osrc/article.php/3706441/The-Role-and-Value-of-Truly-Free-Linux-Distributions.htmMar 19 08:22
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - schestowitz.com » 2007 » October | http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2007/10/Mar 19 08:22
GoForbes28Well, if they did make a Gubuntu, they could have a independent with actual rational thoughMar 19 08:22
GoForbes28Sort of like how Xubuntu decided to go back to their rootsMar 19 08:22
GoForbes28Xubuntu AFAIK removed monoMar 19 08:24
schestowitzLinuc is almost 20 now http://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS5686921217.html?kc=rssMar 19 08:24
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Open source pow-wow kicks off Linux' 20th anniversary .::. Size~: 41.17 KBMar 19 08:24
schestowitzGoForbes28: what a shame... not enough space, I reckonMar 19 08:25
GoForbes28yepMar 19 08:25
GoForbes28Xubuntu was becoming slower and more bloated that Ubuntu...Mar 19 08:25
GoForbes28I guess you can Xubuntu to your list of mono free distros ;)Mar 19 08:25
GoForbes28Man I love XFCEMar 19 08:26
schestowitzhttp://www.calculate-linux.org/blogs/en/221/showMar 19 08:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Calculate Linux 11.3 released - Planet Calculate .::. Size~: 23.55 KBMar 19 08:26
GoForbes28With this stupid new GNOME release, I bet many will make the switchMar 19 08:26
schestowitzThe golden days for desktop Linux as a free env are behind usMar 19 08:27
GoForbes28was that just a general link, Roy?Mar 19 08:28
schestowitzNow it's just utter boredom, IMHOMar 19 08:28
schestowitzBack around 2006 and 2007 it was more exciting... not just Chrome OS and Unity stuffMar 19 08:28
schestowitzGoForbes28: yes, no context to linkMar 19 08:28
schestowitzIt's a Russian distro IIRCMar 19 08:28
GoForbes282:32 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9OfuEMsnYY&html5=TrueMar 19 08:29
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schestowitzhttps://groups.google.com/group/vinux-development/browse_thread/thread/f7a73884c6c81c7b#Mar 19 08:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Vinux 3.0.1 Released! -   The Vinux Development Forum |   Google Groups .::. Size~: 46.15 KBMar 19 08:32
schestowitzSo, I go to http://www.openwall.comMar 19 08:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Openwall Project - Information Security software for open environments .::. Size~: 44.36 KBMar 19 08:33
schestowitzNew release theeMar 19 08:33
schestowitzAnd O2 gives me this page:Mar 19 08:33
schestowitz"Mar 19 08:34
schestowitzWe need to check your age. This is to protect children from websites for over 18s.Mar 19 08:34
schestowitzYoufll need a Visa card or Mastercard.Mar 19 08:34
schestowitz"Mar 19 08:34
schestowitzNotice they give me not even the option to open otMar 19 08:34
schestowitzThey want my money potentially, like goblin pointed out. He had the same issue with them.Mar 19 08:34
schestowitzFree software distro site blocked by O2; no way around itMar 19 08:34
schestowitzThanks O2, for preventing me from accessing freedom toolsMar 19 08:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Eight years on: What WikiLeaks has revealed about Iraq http://alturl.com/vbg2c !wlMar 19 08:36
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schestowitzUTUTO 2011 is outMar 19 08:36
schestowitzLooks neat: http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=ututoMar 19 08:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: DistroWatch.com: UTUTO .::. Size~: 62.97 KBMar 19 08:36
GoForbes28ROY: see?  FSF is alive and wellMar 19 08:37
GoForbes28Oh and RoyMar 19 08:37
GoForbes28Don't copy my comments or I'll find you and flick your ear. :)Mar 19 08:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[goforbes28/@goforbes28] "Do not copy this tape or we'll flick your ear" :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9OfuEMsnYY&t=02m32s&html5=TrueMar 19 08:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @fabsh codpeice would be fine if it had a #Blackadder naming scheme, but #Fedora's scheme is crazy, not counting bizarre suggestionsMar 19 08:42
schestowitzhttp://www.itnewsonline.com/news/Red-Hat-Announces-Availability-of-JBoss-Enterprise-SOA-Platform-5.1/23164/4/3Mar 19 08:45
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schestowitzhow much of jboss is loaded on windows?Mar 19 08:45
schestowitzGoForbes28: my earns are not flickableMar 19 08:45
schestowitz*ears evenMar 19 08:46
schestowitzsebsebseb: http://blog.mandriva.com/en/2011/03/18/mandriva-2011-beta1-errata/ http://blog.mandriva.com/en/2011/03/18/mandriva-enterprise-server-5-2-is-out-2/Mar 19 08:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Mandriva 2011 beta1 errata | Mandriva Blog .::. Size~: 26.03 KBMar 19 08:47
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schestowitzA step behind its fork alreadyMar 19 08:47
sebsebsebschestowitz: What you on about? and I just been on themMar 19 08:49
schestowitzhttp://cdivilly.wordpress.com/2011/03/18/a-year-with-ubuntu/Mar 19 08:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle: A Year With Ubuntu « cdivilly .::. Size~: 26.53 KBMar 19 08:50
schestowitzon who/what?Mar 19 08:50
schestowitzMandriva delivered its bea after its fork didMar 19 08:50
schestowitz*betaMar 19 08:50
schestowitzA bit like LibreOffice 3.3 was released and shipped before OO.o 3.3Mar 19 08:51
sebsebsebschestowitz: some issue with 32bit Mandriva development version, and something about the server being paid for or whatever.  Well Mageia doesn't have a Live CD/DVD yet, and they don't have a server version at the moment.Mar 19 08:51
sebsebsebuhmm yeahMar 19 08:51
sebsebseb,butMar 19 08:51
sebsebsebwellMar 19 08:51
sebsebsebyeahMar 19 08:51
sebsebsebto what your sayingMar 19 08:51
sebsebsebhowever the release schedules are nearly the  same last time I looked at Mageia and Mandriva 2011Mar 19 08:51
sebsebsebschestowitz: Mandriva will come out after Mageia, when I last lookedMar 19 08:52
sebsebseband by quite a bit as wellMar 19 08:52
GoForbes28Hasn't Mandriva already been forked?Mar 19 08:52
GoForbes28*cough*PCLinuxOS?Mar 19 08:52
sebsebsebGoForbes28: yep at least twice already, or well Mandrake was forked into PC Linux OSMar 19 08:52
GoForbes28then why is another fork so note worthy?Mar 19 08:52
sebsebsebGoForbes28: then later Unity Linux got started, which can be used as a distro, but is really a remaster distro, to make others, but yep based/forked from MandrivaMar 19 08:52
sebsebsebwell this latest forkMar 19 08:53
sebsebsebis started by quite a few Ex Mandriva developersMar 19 08:53
GoForbes28so was PCLinuxOS, no?Mar 19 08:53
sebsebsebGoForbes28: http://mageia.orgMar 19 08:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Mageia - A New Linux Distribution .::. Size~: 17.04 KBMar 19 08:53
sebsebsebhttp://mageia.org :)Mar 19 08:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Mageia - A New Linux Distribution .::. Size~: 17.04 KBMar 19 08:53
sebsebsebGoForbes28: not sure about PC Linux OS, but I think it was started by only really one Mandriva ex devMar 19 08:54
sebsebsebTexstarMar 19 08:54
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sebsebsebGoForbes28: also Mageia will be 100% community distro,  with non profit organisation behind it, but sure this sounds like PC Linux OS as wellMar 19 08:54
GoForbes28and PCLinuxOS has been forked as well...Mar 19 08:55
sebsebsebyepMar 19 08:55
GoForbes28Free software development is awesomeMar 19 08:55
sebsebsebGoForbes28: and PC Linux OS is unliekly to get really popular on the desktop I thinkMar 19 08:55
sebsebsebGoForbes28: it was pretty popular in 2007Mar 19 08:55
sebsebsebI think we need another good distro to compete against Ubuntu and stuff like that, and well I think about a year or two Mageia could be it :)Mar 19 08:55
sebsebsebor start to become itMar 19 08:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] The Guardian: Redacting, censoring or lying? http://alturl.com/5zgih !wlMar 19 08:56
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sebsebsebGoForbes28: we need a properly good alternative distro to Ubuntu, that is suitable for newbies to expereinced users, and that isn't based on it, or has a version that is so Mint is outMar 19 08:56
sebsebsebGoForbes28: and no Fedora isn't itMar 19 08:56
sebsebsebthese are my opinionsMar 19 08:56
GoForbes28Well in a perfectly competitive economyMar 19 08:56
sebsebseband I belive proper distro competition lik this is good :) and Ubuntu really does need some proper competition, they are starting to get away with quite a lot of badf stuff already,Mar 19 08:56
sebsebseboh sure the expereinced users will know about things that have been done with Ubuntu and people like that, but most users nopeMar 19 08:57
sebsebsebthings that were bad aboveMar 19 08:57
sebsebsebGoForbes28: sometimes now days I would like Ubuntu to sort of disappear maybe, to be honest with youMar 19 08:57
sebsebsebGoForbes28: I am starting to get frustrated at times, about reading this that and the other about it, and so onMar 19 08:57
sebsebsebI loved that distro for years untill it started to get messed up by Canonical when 9.04 was in developmentMar 19 08:58
GoForbes28You haven't been honest with me?Mar 19 08:58
sebsebsebuh and why am I chatting here about Ubuntu again, ah yes, because it's like Windows a most popular OSMar 19 08:58
GoForbes28yeahMar 19 08:58
GoForbes28 shameMar 19 08:58
GoForbes28BTW what I meantMar 19 08:59
sebsebseband I like  Desktop Linux, so yep it's hard to not talk about Ubuntu at timesMar 19 08:59
GoForbes28When you said "To be honest"Mar 19 08:59
GoForbes28It implies that you haven't been up to that point.Mar 19 08:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Working on the new look for !oggcamp....Mar 19 08:59
GoForbes28A lesson from a former mentor of my dad'sMar 19 08:59
sebsebsebGoForbes28: ah right yeah, I see what your saying, well I didn't do any lies above :) only expressed opinionMar 19 08:59
GoForbes28yeah I knowMar 19 09:00
sebsebsebGoForbes28: you know what, I am not so sure anymore,  I mean when I was a Ubuntu fan boy, I used to think great, Ubuntu going main streameMar 19 09:01
GoForbes28ever since my dad mentioned this to me , I just can't look at to be honest the same anymoreMar 19 09:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @lostnbronx: there's no excuse for stupid names. every distro has a general style or theme to it, and all names should flow from that.Mar 19 09:01
sebsebsebGoForbes28: I used to help quite a few people thinking, well by doing this, I will help to make it become that sooner some how maybe, plus it was something to doMar 19 09:01
GoForbes28MY brother just got ubuntuMar 19 09:01
sebsebsebGoForbes28: I would maybe even fall for frustrated user bait,  UBUNTU SUCKS I AM GOING BACK TO WINDOWS,  and then start to really try and help themMar 19 09:01
sebsebseb,but then wellMar 19 09:02
GoForbes28yep, ubuntu is suffering commonality syndromeMar 19 09:02
sebsebsebI started getting educated more about things upstream Gnome and so on, when 9.04 was in development, plus that's where it began, the Gnome 2 patching that I didn't like well some of it, like shut down on the top right and so on, from thereMar 19 09:02
GoForbes28and will likely move out of favour like some many countless memesMar 19 09:03
sebsebseband wow how things have changedMar 19 09:03
sebsebseband all it took was Canonical messing up UbuntuMar 19 09:03
sebsebsebmore and more as the releases went on from 9.04Mar 19 09:03
sebsebsebso from Ubuntu fan boy or whatever I was who wanted it to go main streame, who now doesn't seem to want that at all,  and thinks at times, that it could be better loads of computers stay on Windows instead of going UbuntuMar 19 09:03
sebsebsebcomputer users, above not computersMar 19 09:04
GoForbes28Windows usersMar 19 09:04
sebsebsebor sure Windows usersMar 19 09:04
sebsebsebalso Desktop Linux isn't really ready to go main streame right now anyway,  you know big changes are coming,  and it will take time for them to be properly implemented by distro's, starting with Gnome 3Mar 19 09:04
GoForbes28Windows users in denialMar 19 09:04
sebsebsebthen I guess wayland or btrfs or both after thatMar 19 09:04
schestowitzwhat's missing?\Mar 19 09:05
GoForbes28If GNOME 3 is that plan to make for more mainstream-ness, then I hate the mainstreamMar 19 09:05
sebsebsebin a way it's pointless getting people using Gnome 2 right nowMar 19 09:05
schestowitzfont licence?Mar 19 09:05
sebsebsebGoForbes28: no not Gnome 3 itself, but Unity yesMar 19 09:05
GoForbes28Unity is stupidMar 19 09:06
sebsebsebGoForbes28: Unity is made for the main streameMar 19 09:06
sebsebsebGnome Shell is made for those that want to use Gnome 3 :)Mar 19 09:06
sebsebsebCanonical want Ubuntu to go all main streameMar 19 09:06
GoForbes28I think they confuse maninstream with "lots-of-people-use-cell-phones-so-let's-make-every-UI-like-a-cell-phone-regardless-of-common-sense"Mar 19 09:06
sebsebseb,but probably loads of the Gnome 3 devs don't really want it to go main streame, just to have quite a lot of happy users?Mar 19 09:06
sebsebsebor maybe they would want it to go main streame later on, but not like 80% market share or whatever, which I guess Canonical would want for Ubuntu, out of the whole of Desktop OS's market shareMar 19 09:07
sebsebsebGoForbes28: the cloud,  Ubuntu One music store, social features by default,  dock type stuff, eye candy type stuff, that's the main streame in Canonical's eyes it seemsMar 19 09:08
sebsebsebhence UnityMar 19 09:08
GoForbes28Thank goodness for XFCE, againMar 19 09:08
sebsebsebUnity isn't even meant to exist for desktops, because they were meant to go with Gnome Shell,  I explained this to someone yesterday :)Mar 19 09:08
sebsebsebuh, but XFCE uses GTK 2 right now doesn't it?  so it will start using GTK 3?Mar 19 09:09
sebsebsebhowever yeah it looks like, XFCE and LXDE may get quite a lot more popular when Gnome 2 becomes well to oldMar 19 09:09
sebsebsebGoForbes28: before I would like try out Xubuntu and see it like a cut down version of Gnome 2, the XFCE in itMar 19 09:09
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sebsebsebnow more recently it seems that most/all XFCE distro's go with the one bar approache insteadMar 19 09:10
sebsebseblike Windows at the bottom and like LXDE as wellMar 19 09:10
sebsebsebinstead of two panels like Xubuntu used  to do for exampleMar 19 09:10
sebsebseblike Gnome 2Mar 19 09:10
GoForbes28yep. xfce 4.8 is still gtk 2Mar 19 09:10
sebsebsebright, but GTK 2 will get to old eventaully as well like Gnome 2, then what? fork it? use GTK 3?Mar 19 09:11
GoForbes28or go back to xformsMar 19 09:11
GoForbes28:)Mar 19 09:11
sebsebsebGnome 3 get's a Gnome 2 like fall back mode, for those that can't run shell or don't want toMar 19 09:11
GoForbes28Then XFCE as a name will make sense againMar 19 09:11
sebsebsebhowever depending on how Gnome 3 goes, I guess a Gnome 2 fork might get startedMar 19 09:11
GoForbes28yepMar 19 09:12
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GoForbes28then again kde3 wasn't forkedMar 19 09:12
sebsebsebyes it has beenMar 19 09:12
sebsebsebTrinityMar 19 09:12
sebsebsebTechrightsBot-tr: google trinityMar 19 09:13
sebsebsebTechrightsBot-tr: .google trinityMar 19 09:13
GoForbes28Well I'll be darnedMar 19 09:13
sebsebsebschestowitz: oh yeah you don't have a bot in here that can do the Google stuff?Mar 19 09:13
GoForbes28it's !googleMar 19 09:14
sebsebsebTechrightsBot-tr: !google trinityMar 19 09:14
sebsebsebGoForbes28: I don't think that bot is set up for itMar 19 09:14
sebsebseb!google trinityMar 19 09:14
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Trinity College | http://www.trincoll.edu/Mar 19 09:14
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Trinity - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TrinityMar 19 09:14
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Trinity University | http://www.trinity.edu/Mar 19 09:14
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Trinity Washington University - nursing BSN, MBA and other degree ... | http://www.trinitydc.edu/Mar 19 09:14
sebsebseboh there we go ^Mar 19 09:14
schestowitzyeahMar 19 09:14
sebsebsebGoForbes28: actsaully yeah I think I seen schestowitz use that before in the other channel and probably here sometimes even, or whateverMar 19 09:15
sebsebseb!google project trinityMar 19 09:15
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Trinity (nuclear test) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trinity_(nuclear_test)Mar 19 09:15
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - PROJECT TRINITY 1945-1946 | http://www.cddc.vt.edu/host/atomic/trinity/projtrinity.htmlMar 19 09:15
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Trinity River Corridor Project - A New Future | http://www.trinityrivercorridor.com/Mar 19 09:15
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Annals of Religion: Project Trinity : The New Yorker | http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/04/07/080407fa_fact_sannehMar 19 09:15
sebsebseb!google trinity kde forkMar 19 09:15
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Trinity Desktop Environment | http://www.trinitydesktop.org/Mar 19 09:15
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - KDE 3.5 fork project looking for people - KDE 4 Brainstorm - KDE ... | http://www.kde-forum.org/artikel/20926/kde-3-5-fork-project-looking-for-people.htmlMar 19 09:15
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - [opensuse-kde] trinity: KDE 3.5 fork | http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-kde/2010-05/msg00082.htmlMar 19 09:15
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Gentoo Forums :: View topic - Trinity fork of KDE-3 | http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-857813-start-0.htmlMar 19 09:15
schestowitzis it still around?Mar 19 09:15
sebsebsebyesMar 19 09:15
schestowitzI think it's used by amarsh04Mar 19 09:15
sebsebseband apparnatly it can work with other bases as well nowMar 19 09:15
sebsebsebnot just Ubuntu and Debian :)Mar 19 09:15
amarsh04no, haven't used trinity... still appears to be around though, I stuck with the old Debian kde 3.5.9/3.5.10Mar 19 09:17
sebsebsebWhy using KDE 3 still?Mar 19 09:17
schestowitzI can't remember who in here uses itMar 19 09:17
schestowitzohMar 19 09:17
schestowitzcubezzz: Mar 19 09:17
sebsebsebschestowitz: noMar 19 09:17
sebsebsebhe uses his edited Fedora 1 Mar 19 09:17
sebsebsebor whateverMar 19 09:17
sebsebseb,but ok sureMar 19 09:17
sebsebsebthat will be KDE 3 of courseMar 19 09:17
sebsebseb,but not TrinityMar 19 09:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @linuxquestions: Lawyer behind Android infringement claim has Microsoft ties by @jzb http://bit.ly/fugyx4Mar 19 09:17
schestowitzI think trinity tooMar 19 09:17
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schestowitzkde3 is out of dateMar 19 09:18
sebsebsebactsauly maybe cubezzz is doing Fedora 1 with Gnome?Mar 19 09:18
sebsebsebschestowitz: so is Gnome 2 now really, but not quite officallyMar 19 09:18
sebsebsebschestowitz: ,but once April 6th comes yep it's offical, Gnome 2 is out of dateMar 19 09:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @wikileaks: #wikileaks: Pentagon Papers leaker: 'I was Bradley Manning' | CNN http://is.gd/TAexDn http://bit.ly/hNnL21Mar 19 09:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] RT @jfred99 Moving back to the !ubuntu 10.4LTS partition on my VIAO in preparation for replacing 10.10 with 11.4 - I like Ubuntu's relea ...Mar 19 09:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] On the 1 year anniversary of the FCC National Broadband Plan, we're no better off. https://eff.org/r.z8ZMar 19 09:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] good <ahem> morning !identiverseMar 19 09:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks/@wikileaks] wikileaks: Eight years on: What WikiLeaks has revealed about Iraq http://wlcentral.org/node/1494 http://bit.ly/h5PttfMar 19 09:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks/@wikileaks] wikileaks: The Guardian: Redacting, censoring or lying? http://wlcentral.org/node/1490 http://bit.ly/hs3rRcMar 19 09:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] (pretty much all the science i learned was from sf ... 9th grade science teacher requested i not return) !bookwormMar 19 09:49
schestowitzhttp://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2011/03/how-zfs-is-slowly-making-its-way-to-mac-os-x.ars?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=rssMar 19 09:53
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schestowitzOSuX will still be behind Linux with btrfsMar 19 09:53
schestowitzhttp://ostatic.com/blog/smartphones-have-arrived-but-not-for-richard-stallman?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+ostatic+%28OStatic%29Mar 19 09:58
schestowitz"Geez. Aside from the fact that there are easy ways to use smartphones without running the risk of surveillance, these comments reflect little connection to some of the most important technology trends."Mar 19 09:58
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schestowitzHe doesn't name such smartphonesMar 19 09:58
schestowitzHe doesn't seem to know how they triangulateMar 19 09:58
schestowitzAnd RMS was not talking about "technology trends."Mar 19 09:59
schestowitzFrom OStaticI expected this reactiomnMar 19 09:59
schestowitzComment #1 says: "It's about proprietarism. A computing device running software that's not free can do things you'll never know. With free software, the code can be analized by people and be subject to critics if some form of malicious code is there. If you let proprietary software in your life by default, you'll just support a future where companies control your devices at will. You'll be no longer in real control of your device."Mar 19 10:00
schestowitz"Mar 19 10:00
schestowitzit doesn't matter if the cell phone runs completely on free software, it still must be communicating with cell towers and therefor you're getting tracked, and in the EU, where you've been must be saved at least six months*, so the state always knows where you have been, and who else have been there.Mar 19 10:00
schestowitz*) in sweden for example this was supposed to be made into law yesterday, but the commies, the greens and the nationalists stopped it, much to he dismay of the socialdemocrats, the conservatives and the _liberals_.Mar 19 10:00
schestowitz"Mar 19 10:00
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schestowitzhttp://ostatic.com/blog/what-if-hewlett-packard-bought-red-hatMar 19 10:02
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schestowitzThey could conceivably do thatMar 19 10:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @tlaukkanen: Poll: Most wanted feature to Kasvopus, Facebook client? http://bit.ly/eor0jQ #N900 #MaemoMar 19 10:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @jukkaeklund: MeeGo Summit FI 2011 volunteers meetups http://summit.meegonetwork.fi/meego-summit-fi-2011-volunteers-meetups #meegofiMar 19 10:07
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Poll: Most wanted feature to Kasvopus? | Substance of Code .::. Size~: 36.83 KBMar 19 10:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: MeeGo Summit FI 2011 volunteers meetups | MeeGo Summit FI // April 15-16th 2011 // Tampere, Finland .::. Size~: 15.35 KBMar 19 10:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #experimentsonhumans: "U.S. Government Medical Experiments of the Recent Past Revealed " http://ur1.ca/3l0dfMar 19 10:09
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schestowitzhttp://paidcontent.org/article/419-yahoo-news-blog-head-golis-leaves-for-pbs/Mar 19 10:13
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schestowitzhttp://kara.allthingsd.com/20110316/exclusive-yahoo-news-head-moves-to-disney-com-which-will-get-big-redo/Mar 19 10:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Yahoo News Head Moves to Disney.com | Kara Swisher | BoomTown | AllThingsD .::. Size~: 71.22 KBMar 19 10:16
schestowitzThe company is collapsing. So much for the Microsoft  'life line'  after the proxy fight to hijack Yahoo userbaseMar 19 10:17
schestowitzhttp://www.xconomy.com/seattle/2011/03/07/techflash-duo-todd-bishop-and-john-cook-quit-psbj-to-start-new-site-geekwire/Mar 19 10:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: TechFlash Duo, Todd Bishop and John Cook, Quit PSBJ to Start New Site, GeekWire | Xconomy .::. Size~: 56.23 KBMar 19 10:17
schestowitzHaMar 19 10:17
schestowitzThe Microsoft boostersMar 19 10:18
schestowitzhttp://www.worldchanging.com/archives/011741.htmlMar 19 10:22
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Worldchanging: Bright Green: Help Us Launch the New Worldchanging Book Today! .::. Size~: 41.58 KBMar 19 10:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Just submitted a first version of the !OggCamp 11 logo to the group for comment.Mar 19 10:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @fxneumann: Drandenken: Am 27. 3. CDU wählen – wenn Philippsburg hochgeht, brauchen wir jemanden, der sich mit Wasserwerfern auskennt.Mar 19 10:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Steven Rossitto (16 years old) singing "My One And Only Love" - Wow, I can't believe it. What a great voice! #YouTube: http://goo.gl/gecKAMar 19 10:27
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schestowitzhttp://tankriot.com/2011/106/Mar 19 10:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: On Wisconsin! .::. Size~: 12.34 KBMar 19 10:28
schestowitzGOPOXDoch daemonises them, still?Mar 19 10:29
schestowitzGOPOXDoch is just "successful"Mar 19 10:29
schestowitzLook at the rating, money /sarcasmMar 19 10:29
schestowitzNumero unoMar 19 10:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @munkybone: great #minecraft parody music video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2rDbRUDkdsMar 19 10:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle: YouTube         - "TNT" - A Minecraft Parody of Taio Cruz's Dynamite - Crafted Using Note Blocks .::. Size~: 134.66 KBMar 19 10:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Provide primary sources, or be ignored: http://alturl.com/jn85v !wlMar 19 10:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: A case of never letting the source spoil a good story | Ben Goldacre | Comment is free | The Guardian .::. Size~: 249.74 KBMar 19 10:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Great WikiLeaks and Freedom forum video talk http://alturl.com/vczde !wlMar 19 10:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: YouTube         - WikiLeaks and Freedom Forum: John Pilger 1/2 .::. Size~: 121.4 KBMar 19 10:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @robmyers 'Demand that Apple remove "ex-gay" iPhone app.' - http://www.change.org/petitions/demand-that-apple-remove-ex-gay-iphone-appMar 19 10:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Gay Rights Petition: Demand that Apple remove "ex-gay" iPhone app | Change.org .::. Size~: 57.72 KBMar 19 10:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Pilger: "The real threat is not WikiLeaks or Julian Assange, it is YOU" http://alturl.com/egnxv !wlMar 19 10:41
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schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/GreatDismal/status/48812495657381888Mar 19 10:42
TechrightsBot-tr@GreatDismal: Western media in race against time; hysterical nuclear bullshit nearing critical meltdown, yet millions are still uncontaminated.Mar 19 10:42
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/rcweir/statuses/47716774313070592Mar 19 10:43
TechrightsBot-tr@rcweir: What's a Zune?Mar 19 10:43
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/tracyrreed/statuses/46371884610236417 HehMar 19 10:44
TechrightsBot-tr@tracyrreed: When Nagios attacks: Is there really no way to mass delete text messages on an iPhone? Really? Each from a new incrementing phone number. :(Mar 19 10:44
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/zoobab/statuses/46244850508640256Mar 19 10:45
TechrightsBot-tr@zoobab: @martinvars Anybody from FON going to the Wireless Battle Mesh in Barcelona next week?Mar 19 10:45
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/rcweir/statuses/45513004015562752Mar 19 10:48
TechrightsBot-tr@rcweir: “Microsoft is getting the platform boost that comes from acquiring a Nokia for about a billion dollars”  http://buswk.co/hp2HR8Mar 19 10:48
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: Microsoft Is Said to Pay Nokia More Than $1 Billion in Deal - Businessweek .::. Size~: 57.45 KBMar 19 10:48
schestowitzgnufreex: http://twitter.com/zoobab/statuses/45421414148341760Mar 19 10:48
TechrightsBot-tr@zoobab: The EU patent system would also increase the ability of open source developers to enforce patents on a Europe-wide scale http://ur1.ca/3fnqjMar 19 10:48
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: EU-wide patents 'move closer' | Regulation | ZDNet UK .::. Size~: 52.25 KBMar 19 10:48
schestowitzIngrid does not write there anymoreMar 19 10:48
schestowitz!google techtights ingrid missingMar 19 10:49
TechrightsBot-trNo Google resultsMar 19 10:49
schestowitz!google techrights ingrid missingMar 19 10:49
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Technology Rights (TechRights) on Twitter | http://twitter.com/TechRightsMar 19 10:49
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - 2010 October 14 | Techrights | http://techrights.org/2010/10/14/Mar 19 10:49
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - 2009 May 31 | Techrights - Part 2 | http://techrights.org/2009/05/31/page/2/Mar 19 10:49
schestowitzhttp://www.fourmilab.ch/autofile/www/chapter2_105.htmlMar 19 10:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] Why having multiple standards is bad - A legacy from the 1800s leaves Tokyo facing blackouts: http://wmk.me/fEcWnLMar 19 10:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: A legacy from the 1800s leaves Tokyo facing blackouts | ITworld .::. Size~: 90.14 KBMar 19 10:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] I love !booksMar 19 10:52
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GoForbes28yo roy, did you ask RMS to see what he thought about the future of the FSF?Mar 19 10:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Another Drupal 7 site installed. Already have a theme picked too.... :)Mar 19 10:59
schestowitz> > > stupidity online? So anyone can record the above show once more atMar 19 11:01
schestowitz> > > 03:30 Thursday on BBC News Channel without needing non-free software.Mar 19 11:01
schestowitz> >Mar 19 11:01
schestowitz> > Well, untill they start encrypting the EPG that is...Mar 19 11:01
schestowitz>Mar 19 11:01
schestowitz> You don't need the EPG to record the video stream.Mar 19 11:01
schestowitzIt's like when VCRs didn't have timers...Mar 19 11:01
schestowitzre "Subject: Re: [Fsuk-manchester] ubuntu on click"Mar 19 11:02
schestowitznot LinuxMar 19 11:02
schestowitzubuntuMar 19 11:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @swadeshine There are some angry angry folks around the world tweeting about Clinton's #Bahrain comments. #heartsandmindsMar 19 11:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] of course, when I was young I was a founder of the "Canadian Trekkies Association"Mar 19 11:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] and my my first outing as a self publisher was as the publisher of the CTA's fanzine called Canektion (Asimov called it "very interesting")Mar 19 11:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] RT @webmink Why having multiple standards is bad - A legacy from the 1800s leaves Tokyo facing blackouts: http://wmk.me/fEcWnLMar 19 11:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Blame the defense dept for WikiLeaks | DB http://is.gd/ZhJsb7 !wlMar 19 11:11
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schestowitzHi _GoblinMar 19 11:45
schestowitzAre we ready :-) ?Mar 19 11:45
_Goblinlol....Mar 19 11:45
_GoblinIf you want to record today......let me check with the wifeMar 19 11:45
schestowitzgordon suggested it firstMar 19 11:48
schestowitzSee identica repliesMar 19 11:48
_Goblinyeah....I'll see what the wife wants me to do firstMar 19 11:48
_Goblinbut other than that I don't have an issue with recording tonightMar 19 11:48
_GoblinHow about an 8pm if we are to record?Mar 19 11:49
*amarsh04 is half an hour into Techbytes 33 and has episode 34 lined up after itMar 19 11:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] I've finished my first try at modelling the !oggcamp mascot. What do you think? http://ur1.ca/3l15yMar 19 11:52
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_Goblinschestowitz: how about 2 tracks tonight? - use one for a half time break?Mar 19 11:54
_GoblinIve got two tracks....both crackingMar 19 11:54
_Goblinand no death metal - I promise!Mar 19 11:56
Ender2070episode 33 has a subliminal track in itMar 19 11:56
Ender2070'donate techrights'Mar 19 11:56
_GoblinlolMar 19 11:56
_GoblindamnMar 19 11:56
Ender2070LOL j/kMar 19 11:56
_Goblinsupposed to say........friend Goblin on the Playstation NetworkMar 19 11:56
_Goblinthat pesky Roy......Mar 19 11:57
Ender2070lol playstationMar 19 11:57
_Goblinstill playing Killzone 3.......damn fine, that gameMar 19 11:58
Ender2070im on the steam networkMar 19 11:59
schestowitz_Goblin: 2 tracks would be good, ysMar 19 11:59
_Goblingreat...Mar 19 12:00
_Goblinlike I say, no death metal this timeMar 19 12:00
_GoblinIm finding Ive a skill at tracking down some real cracking CC work....Mar 19 12:00
*schestowitz got distracted by mail there for 5 minutesMar 19 12:01
schestowitz_Goblin: death metal is OK, tooMar 19 12:01
_GoblinEnder2070: get yourself a ps3........and I can lay some Goblin smackdown on your candy ass via Killzone 3 ;)Mar 19 12:02
schestowitzEsp. the metal part of itMar 19 12:02
schestowitz_Goblin: SCOny?Mar 19 12:02
schestowitzNot a good time to pay them now they they sue GeorgeMar 19 12:02
_Goblinyes but they have Killzone 3Mar 19 12:02
_Goblinand Ive got a high gamer score which makes me a better person than anyone else.Mar 19 12:03
Ender2070my addiction has been wow, starcraft 2 and pokemon blackMar 19 12:03
_GoblinIm hearing you on WOWMar 19 12:03
_GoblinThe final Fantasy MMORPG is coming to the PS3 shortly......I image I;ll lose a few months of my life with that oneMar 19 12:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] classic video: a winning combination of things I love: art deco, Fry & Laurie, Cab Calloway, Wodehouse: http://tinyogg.com/watch/3to09/Mar 19 12:04
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_Goblin*imagineMar 19 12:04
Ender2070http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/gilneas/chicksahoy/simpleMar 19 12:05
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Ender2070http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/gilneas/burndown/simpleMar 19 12:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] "What do you suppose a hootchie kootcher is exactly?"~ Bertie WoosterMar 19 12:06
_GoblinGood effort!Mar 19 12:06
_GoblinI think I only took it to a lvl 40 PaladinMar 19 12:07
_Goblinthat was around 2008Mar 19 12:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] "It's difficult to say sir, unless it's in connection with one of the demotic American words for ardent spirits."~JeevesMar 19 12:07
Ender2070oh yeahMar 19 12:08
Ender2070back then it would have taken forever for a paladinMar 19 12:08
_GoblinCan't really remember........I remember getting a magic missle type spell after around lvl 35 (or something) which was most disapointing....I went for a Pali because of the horses spellMar 19 12:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] [RT for timezones W of GMT] Ethics of Intellectual Monopolies: the Video - http://bit.ly/i0m2iO my keynote at #fscons #copyright #patentsMar 19 12:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Of course, i love scat, and i think the main reason that it wasn't a bigger success is that very few could do scat as well as Cab CallowayMar 19 12:11
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GoForbes28schestowitz: Opera has openwashed?Mar 19 12:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @encyclomundi @laurelrusswurm perhaps, but I have my rep as the Chief Grammatical Officer of the WWW to protect. :)Mar 19 12:16
schestowitzysMar 19 12:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 19/3/2011: KiWi PC Bring GNU/Linux to Seniors, ASUS Comes Back to Linux for Sub-notebooks http://ur1.ca/3l1be !techrightsMar 19 12:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Links 19/3/2011: KiWi PC Bring GNU/Linux to Seniors, ASUS Comes Back to Linux for Sub-notebooks http://ur1.ca/3l1be #techrightsMar 19 12:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz Links 19/3/2011: KiWi PC Bring GNU/Linux to Seniors, ASUS Comes Back to Linux for Sub-notebooks http://ur1.ca/3l1be !tec ...Mar 19 12:21
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cubezzzsebsebseb, I use FC1 with KDE 3.4.2Mar 19 12:31
sebsebsebschestowitz: _Goblin nisshh  I am helping Identica newbies aren't I nice :DMar 19 12:31
cubezzzthe vector linux classic has KDE 3.5.10Mar 19 12:32
cubezzzI don't use Gnome too muchMar 19 12:32
_Goblinsebsebseb: :)Mar 19 12:32
_Goblincubezzz: never thought I'd say this but.......KDE is looking far more attractive to me latelyMar 19 12:33
cubezzz_Goblin, I started using it in the 3.0 daysMar 19 12:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] Oh god @fontana and @bkuhn talking in person in public, what will happen? #LP2011Mar 19 12:34
_GoblinI was never impressed........always gone xfce or GnomeMar 19 12:34
_Goblinbut now....mmmm seems its finally matured into soemthing I actually want to useMar 19 12:35
cubezzzanyways, I made rolled my own for FC1 using konstruct back in 2005Mar 19 12:35
cubezzzhave all the source for 3.4.2 and 3.5.10Mar 19 12:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♺ @DanielEllsberg This is a good day to get arrested at the White House (Quantico tomorrow): stopthesewars.orgMar 19 12:36
cubezzzbut I don't like the slowness of KDE >= 4Mar 19 12:36
cubezzz\Mar 19 12:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♺ @popularch Daniel Ellsberg arrested outside White House 4 protesting Bradley Manning's conditions; more arrests to follow. #freeBradleyMar 19 12:37
cubezzzso yeah on the Vector box I have xfce tooMar 19 12:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♺ @BlueShoes55 Officially lunatic police action ♺ @janehamsher Crowd cheers as handcuffed @danielellsberg led away frm White HouseMar 19 12:39
cubezzzbut I use kweatherservice and klipper a lotMar 19 12:41
cubezzzmain reason why I use KDEMar 19 12:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♺ @janehamsher Proud of everyone who let Obama arrest them on public property today for Bradley #Manning #PresidentTorture #freeBradleyMar 19 12:41
_Goblinschestowitz: I propose the title for tonights show - "You can't please some people"Mar 19 12:41
_Goblinschestowitz: you'll see why.....Mar 19 12:41
schestowitzCoolMar 19 12:42
schestowitzToday was a productive day BTWMar 19 12:42
schestowitzI caught up with a lot of newsMar 19 12:42
cubezzzif AROS worked 100% I would use that moreMar 19 12:42
schestowitzI still have one gig of traffic to useMar 19 12:42
_Goblinschestowitz: how about I connect to you now and upload the tracks for tonight ready?Mar 19 12:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is fabsh with 146 dents!Mar 19 12:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Daniel Ellsberg at White House and Quantico This Weekend for Bradley Manning http://ur1.ca/3l1fg #freeBradley #freeByronMar 19 12:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] 2011-03-11: International Bradley Manning Support Day http://wlcentral.org/node/1461 !wikileaks !cablegate #freeBradley #freeByronMar 19 12:46
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_Goblinschestowitz: or I can send hereMar 19 12:46
schestowitz_Goblin: it says you're offlineMar 19 12:54
_Goblinyeah....I meant I can dcc if you wishMar 19 12:56
_Goblinor I can skype..its up to youMar 19 12:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♺ @BlueShoes55 Political/moral implosion of Obama as devastating as it is spectacular. There goes "The Right to Assemble" #Manning #EllsbergMar 19 12:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♺ @acarvin Reuters: #Libyan State TV reports the attacks saying civilian targets are being hit by "crusader enemies." via @Glinner #freedomMar 19 12:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @richslxh try openfwwf and nouveauMar 19 13:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Microsoft Still Lobbies for Software Patents in Europe, Even by Pretending to be Small European Company/ies http://ur1.ca/3l1on #euMar 19 13:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♺ @Ont_Ombudsman Do u have a complaint about #G20 police misconduct? The OIPRD wants to hear from you: http://ur1.ca/3l1ot via @creepcopsMar 19 13:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Microsoft Still Lobbies for Software Patents in Europe, Even by Pretending to be Small European Company/ies http://ur1.ca/3l1on #swpatsMar 19 13:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @freemor: Sadly can't be at #libreplanet in person this year.. But will be there in spirit. Have a great conference everyoneMar 19 13:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @johnsu01 I *have* to look into attending again. It's such a great conference!, but it nearly overlaps with daughter's bday :-(Mar 19 13:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @schestowitz #Microsoft Still Lobbies for Software Patents in Europe, Even by Pretending to be Small European Company/ies http://ur1. ...Mar 19 13:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] RT @schestowitz #Microsoft Still Lobbies for Software Patents in Europe, Even by Pretending to be Small European Company/ies http://ur1. ...Mar 19 13:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @lxoliva kids birthdays are the most important thing in the world ... enjoy them :DMar 19 13:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ...back to the fontwars⇒ replacing Microsoft fonts w/free fonts for !selfPub novel !Inconstant Moon !copyright infringement not worth riskMar 19 13:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♺ @kar1211 @lwdgrfx ⇒ India is paying Palin to give a speech.... oh to thank her for sending American biz to India #WIunion via @polymath22Mar 19 13:32
_Goblinschestowitz: ready?Mar 19 13:34
schestowitzSteady :-)Mar 19 13:34
schestowitz[20:33] <_Goblin> ready to rock and roll.......I assume Gordon is away? dent says he hasn't commented for 4 hours and no reply to my dent yet.Mar 19 13:34
schestowitz:-(Mar 19 13:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laforge/@laforge] it's strange to take a bath in something that looks like an ocean, has waves but is in fact a riverMar 19 13:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♻ @TheOnion Entire Facebook Staff Laughs As Man Tightens Privacy Settings http://onion.com/bzOA8zMar 19 13:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♺ @LilianeKhalil The following is complete list of countries involved in #UN security resolution #1973 action to protect citizens of #LibyaMar 19 13:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ...#France #Spain !Canada #Qatar #Poland #Turkey #Denmark #Italy #Greece #Norway #UK #US #Belgium #Netherlands #Iraq #UAE #Jordan #MoroccoMar 19 13:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♺ @LilianeKhalil 6 CF-18 fighter jets from !Canada en route to an #Italian base - 1 of 4 partners to enforce NFZ over #Libya #cdnpoliMar 19 13:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] @codepope I can't see that: do you mean on this page http://vimeo.com/21188827 ?Mar 19 13:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] RT @nightrose !Amarok 2.4.1 beta 1 released http://amarok.kde.org/en/releases/2.4.1/beta/1Mar 19 14:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♺ @LilianeKhalil US Defense Official has confirmed that #US military operations have begun in #Libya within last hour. #cdnpoliMar 19 14:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♺ @LilianeKhalil UK PM tells AP "British forces are carrying out operations over #Libya right now. The time to negotiate is past." #cdnPOLIMar 19 14:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♺ @LilianeKhalil US warships targeting #Libya air defense with cruise missile attacks. Confirmed by #US sources. #cdnPOLIMar 19 14:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♺ @LilianeKhalil Italy has offered allies in #UN military action on #Libya rights to use air bases in #Naples !cdnpoliMar 19 14:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♺ @LilianeKhalil #US calling their military operation in #Libya: Operation Odyssey Dawn !cdnpoliMar 19 14:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♺ @LilianeKhalil 6 CF-18 fighter jets from !Canada en route to #Italian base - as 1 of 4 principal partners to enforce NFZ over !cdnpoliMar 19 14:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] “USA gennemfører missilangreb på Libyen”: http://jp.dk/udland/article2375135.ece !WarMar 19 14:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♺ @LilianeKhalil !Canada warship HMCS #Charlottetown positioned to help w/ #Libya naval blockade⇒ Shd arr #Tripoli port overnight. !cdnpoliMar 19 14:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♺ @News1130radio Prime Minister Stephen Harper says Canada at war to protect innocent Libyan civilians⇒ via emergency mtg/Paris. !cdnpoliMar 19 14:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♺ @Reuters FLASH: !Canada supports quick #Libya action, says its jets in region, would need 2 days to prepare a mission !cdnpoliMar 19 14:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♺ @LilianeKhalil #SabahEnglish reporter in Tripoli says #Gaddafi ordered supporters 2 take 2 streets defy allied military operation !cdnpoliMar 19 14:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] via @webmink : Skype security questioned http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2011/mar/16/skype-security-weaknesses-vulnerableMar 19 14:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @mvalente: Esta coisa da Libia, ainda bem q lá está o Obama, se era o fascista do Bush eram bombas e misseis como foi no Iraque. Oh. Wait.Mar 19 14:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @mvalente: Fico à espera das manifs contra o Obama, feitas pelos tontos do costume(PS, BE, PC, CGTP,....) #incoerentes #imoraisMar 19 14:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♺ @freecitycitizen @pmoharper pssst were at war with eurasia now #twoplustwoequalsfive #room101 !Canada !cdnpoliMar 19 14:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♺ @pmoharper [Not Steve Harper] Another war where parliament had no say nor did !Canada even vote some appointed UN proxy. #libya !cdnpoliMar 19 14:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♺ @natnewswatch PM Harper declares 'act of war' as coalition aerial mission begins http://ur1.ca/3l3nr [via @pmoharper] !cdnpoliMar 19 14:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] awesome #xkcd radiation chart http://xkcd.com/radiation/ (background: ur1.ca/3l3ue) /dzięki, BożoMar 19 14:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♺ @oliviachow Harper gov has $ for fake lake but won't properly compensate bizs 4 #G20 losses. Unfair/shameful http://ur1.ca/3l3t2 !cdnpoliMar 19 14:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Sergey Udaltsov: Where is GNOME2? #GNOME2 is in #EXDE! http://goo.gl/RelgT !gnomeMar 19 14:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♺ @LilianeKhalil #Libya claims to have detained a team of Al Jazeera Arabic journalists tonight.Mar 19 14:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #EXDE is a !GNOME fork, offering as many GNOME 3.x components as possible, and a desktop experience similar to GNOME 2 http://exde.org/Mar 19 14:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Nick Ali: #FireSSH – #SSH in a Browser http://goo.gl/GBeGPMar 19 14:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #WebUpd8: #Synapse Launcher Gets A Do-ish Theme, Drag'n'Drop Support http://goo.gl/K8k6FMar 19 14:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Martin Pitt: New #Apport feature: custom bug duplicate identification http://goo.gl/9IGEu !uMar 19 14:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !GNOME and GSoC 2011 http://goo.gl/I1hu6Mar 19 14:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] added some images to that crap I wrote yesterday http://www.jezra.net/blog/python_shellfm_web_interface #shamelessselfpromotionMar 19 14:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Corporations are not appropriate guardians of public ethics or morality. #freespeechMar 19 14:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Why is !Canada at war? When you lob bombs at a country, it isn't the dicatator in the bunker who gets killed. !cdnpoli #freedomMar 19 15:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #skynet in 2034... http://ur1.ca/3l4mn #usa #wars #mic #nwoMar 19 15:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♺ @ArabRevolution Just in case you didn't believe Gaddafi isn't crazy. His letter to Obama: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-12794591Mar 19 15:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @marjoleink Opinion: "'Where are the Arabs?'" http://is.gd/rtlNfO #Libya #nofly #AJEMar 19 15:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @swadeshine 46 protesters (including children) killed by snipers in #Yemen > http://goo.gl/DPGut #foreignpolicyfailMar 19 15:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @joshix I wonder if Obama wears his Nobel necklace as he orders missile strikes? I don't like my hypocrisy in half-measures.Mar 19 15:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @laurelrusswurm: Corporations are not appropriate guardians of public ethics or morality. #freespeechMar 19 15:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♺ @DemocracyCanada Harper on Libya "One either believes in freedom or one just says one believes in freedom." #G20 Public Inquiry? !cdnpoliMar 19 15:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] "One either believes in freedom or one just says one believes in freedom."~Prime Minister Stephen Harper !q #freeByron ?Mar 19 15:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♺ @LilianeKhalil -----> RT @MMFlint: We've had a "no-fly zone" over Afghanistan for over 9 yrs. How's that going? #WINNING !Mar 19 15:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[stumbles/@stumbles] Sarah and I just celebrated our 2 week wedding anniversary. So far so good!Mar 19 15:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] I am tired of wars being fought to distract citizens from bad behaviour of Leaders PM Harper #freeByron !cdnpoliMar 19 15:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] I am tired of wars being fought to distract citizens from bad behaviour of Leaders President Obama #freeBradley #Manning #EllsbergMar 19 15:24
_Goblinschestowitz: Good show mateMar 19 15:29
schestowitz_Goblin: I listen nowMar 19 15:36
schestowitzYou put the mic at good distanceMar 19 15:36
schestowitzYou sound clearMar 19 15:36
schestowitzI needed to have distanced myself from the micMar 19 15:38
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_Goblinschestowitz: what do you think of my selection of tracks? Crackers or what?Mar 19 15:46
_Goblinschestowitz: just replied back to Obsidian Shell, hopefully we can get them on...Mar 19 15:49
schestowitz_Goblin: ok, encoding nowMar 19 15:52
schestowitzThis could take a while :-)Mar 19 15:52
_Goblinnp!Mar 19 15:52
schestowitz_Goblin: I listen to just the 4 ends of tracks, now I'll listen properlyMar 19 15:52
schestowitzI am trying to get them up ASAPMar 19 15:53
_GoblinIve got enough discoveries to have 2 tracks on alot of shows......Mar 19 15:53
schestowitzHeh. If the dingle is surveillance, then o2 knows where the show was recordedMar 19 15:54
schestowitzyes, 2 tracks per show would be goodMar 19 15:54
schestowitzI can always use sxsw as fallback if you haven't found something you fancyMar 19 15:55
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schestowitzHi, scientesMar 19 16:03
schestowitzLong time, no see. Everything OK?Mar 19 16:04
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scientesi was on here last weekMar 19 16:06
scientesbut otherwise, yesMar 19 16:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] "learning curve" of dictators: Ben Ali quit quickly, Mubarack took longer, Ghaddafi is reluctant, NATO intervenes, next..? !wlMar 19 16:11
_Goblinshow notes done.Mar 19 16:16
schestowitzI reckon it's another 20 minutes to finish encoding. I'll just upload ogg firstMar 19 16:18
schestowitzLet me see numbers of non-caches d/lsMar 19 16:18
schestowitzWowMar 19 16:20
schestowitzA lot more than before, mp3s tooMar 19 16:20
schestowitzOver 10,000 downloads in the past 6 daysMar 19 16:20
schestowitznon-cachedMar 19 16:20
schestowitzAbout 12,000, so it's increasingMar 19 16:20
schestowitzwe really ought to record more often and test the sound before doing the showMar 19 16:21
_Goblin:)Mar 19 16:23
_Goblinthe price of being a celebrity?Mar 19 16:23
_Goblin;)Mar 19 16:23
schestowitzStrange thing happened todayMar 19 16:28
schestowitzA colleague of mineMar 19 16:28
schestowitzHe knew me from elsewhereMar 19 16:28
schestowitzAnd it turned out they knew where I worked, tooMar 19 16:28
schestowitzHe said all of bitfolk knew me, but I don't know themMar 19 16:29
schestowitzSo he just wanted to chat... kind of nice when that happensMar 19 16:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] MSFT-hired Lawyer Deletes Reference to Microsoft Employment and Goes GNU Hunting Amid New FUD Campaigns http://ur1.ca/3l6zo posted in a rushMar 19 16:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] #Microsoft -hired Lawyer Deletes Reference to Microsoft Employment and Goes GNU Hunting Amid New FUD Campaigns http://ur1.ca/3l6zoMar 19 16:29
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schestowitzYou said that despite writing less in openbytes you get more people visiting and I hope that's trueMar 19 16:30
_Goblinschestowitz: I often get mistaken for an incredibly attractive hollywood celebrity......these good looks are a curse....;) and yes.....it seems the "treat em mean, keep em keen" applies to writing.Mar 19 16:31
schestowitzEncoding is very slow with 5 channelsMar 19 16:33
schestowitzLast time and all previous time it's 3Mar 19 16:33
schestowitzopening, recording, ending trackMar 19 16:33
schestowitzThis one is over an hour to encodeMar 19 16:33
sebsebsebschestowitz: _Goblin Do you like Sony?Mar 19 16:36
_Goblinproducts yes.Mar 19 16:36
schestowitzgood productsMar 19 16:36
schestowitzBad productsMar 19 16:36
schestowitzBad behaviourMar 19 16:36
schestowitzGood wualityMar 19 16:36
sebsebseb_Goblin: schestowitz My little brother is going to get a PS3Mar 19 16:37
cubezzzhmmm, Sony used bad polyers in their headphonesMar 19 16:37
cubezzzpolymersMar 19 16:37
_Goblingood effort! Make sure you add me as a PSN friend (my handle is Goblin-Tux)Mar 19 16:37
sebsebseb_Goblin: schestowitz I think, because of the Linux thing, Sony aren't really a good company anymoreMar 19 16:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @TonyClement_MP: Multi-tasking + pixie dust...RT @WayeMason @TonyClement_MP is following 11,000 people. How does he get any work done?Mar 19 16:37
_GoblinIs there such a thing as a "good" company?Mar 19 16:38
cubezzzactually dvd drives in general aren't greatMar 19 16:38
sebsebseb_Goblin: he's a kid, and I don't think it will have Internet access in his bed room some howMar 19 16:38
_GoblinahMar 19 16:38
schestowitzDaemonFC mom is gonna get a PMSMar 19 16:38
cubezzz_Goblin, yesMar 19 16:38
cubezzzCommodore _was_ goodMar 19 16:38
cubezzzbut it went badMar 19 16:38
_Goblinsebsebseb: I thought you had an older brother.Mar 19 16:38
sebsebseb_Goblin: altough maybe it can go down stairs instead, the big TV, I mean the wii could go online there I thinkMar 19 16:38
sebsebseb_Goblin: I have bothMar 19 16:38
sebsebseban older and a much youngerMar 19 16:38
cubezzzoften things will start well, and then die... unfortunatelyMar 19 16:38
_GoblinIm desperate for PSN friends......Ive only got one :( and Im still awaiting them to add me!Mar 19 16:39
DaemonFCCommodore made some damned good computersMar 19 16:39
DaemonFC:)Mar 19 16:39
_Goblina500 forever!Mar 19 16:39
DaemonFCI had the 64, 128, and the AmigaMar 19 16:39
cubezzzCommodore gave out good documentation for their computersMar 19 16:39
cubezzzDaemonFC, you still have them?Mar 19 16:39
sebsebseb_Goblin: ,but anyway yeah my little brother only has,  a Nintendo DS which as far as I know he doesn't play anymore altough I guess he does sometimesMar 19 16:39
MinceRsony is evil but their headphones are good :)Mar 19 16:39
DaemonFCin the atticMar 19 16:39
sebsebseb_Goblin: he has his WII which he seems to have lost interst in, hence it being down stairs and not being playedMar 19 16:39
DaemonFCthey still workMar 19 16:39
cubezzzok, the headphones are good but their polymers aren'tMar 19 16:40
MinceR:>Mar 19 16:40
sebsebseb_Goblin: he has a playsation 2, so he can play our old playsation and PS2 games and so on, but yeah I Guess he's losing interest in that now as wellMar 19 16:40
sebsebseb_Goblin: so PS3Mar 19 16:40
DaemonFCThe Wii is the best of the current console generationMar 19 16:40
cubezzzeither that or I have very acidic hairMar 19 16:40
DaemonFCbut that speaks to how dull this generation isMar 19 16:40
sebsebseb_Goblin: and his school friends have loads of games consoles and so on as wellMar 19 16:40
sebsebsebit's quite sad really if you think about itMar 19 16:40
MinceRDaemonFC: well, they're consoles, they can't help itMar 19 16:40
sebsebsebhow loads of young peopleMar 19 16:40
cubezzzMinceR, you can't say you like that fake leather stuff Mar 19 16:40
DaemonFCPS3 and XBOX 360 are the same thing with higher resolutions and more polygon count :)Mar 19 16:40
sebsebsebget addicated to games at a young age nowMar 19 16:40
sebsebsebgames consoles and all thatMar 19 16:40
_GoblinIm currently playing Warriors: Legends of troy....its a great game but about as accurate historically as a history lesson in computers by Steve Ballmer.Mar 19 16:40
MinceRcubezzz: there isn't much left of the fake leather stuff anymore... :>Mar 19 16:40
cubezzzexactlyMar 19 16:41
sebsebseb_Goblin: all my little brother seems to care properly about at the moment, is games really, I think it's sadMar 19 16:41
sebsebseb_Goblin: and it's been like that a few years or so now reallyMar 19 16:41
_Goblinah....theres worse things.......Mar 19 16:41
cubezzzok, Amiga + GNU/Linux soon :)Mar 19 16:41
DaemonFCThe sad thing is that the CPU in the XBOX 360 actually sounds pretty nice, there's just no way to use the 360 as a general purpose computerMar 19 16:41
DaemonFCthere was for a while, where you could install PowerPC Linux on itMar 19 16:41
_Goblinat least he's not causing trouble on the streets.Mar 19 16:41
sebsebseb_Goblin: also when it comes to him having a lap top next year for secondary school, well I guess realistic is to get one with the next Windows, and then dual boot with a Linux distroMar 19 16:42
sebsebseb_Goblin: I don't think Linux only is realistic, because of stupid programs he may want to run later on you knowMar 19 16:42
_GoblinGhostBSD.....thats the flavour of the month on my second PC at the momentMar 19 16:42
sebsebseb_Goblin: at least he wants to a Linux distro it seems though on there, from stuff he has told me :), but hopefuly he won't just use it like a toaster, and i'll be able to teach him some of the tech stuff :)Mar 19 16:43
MinceRsebsebseb: stupid programs tend to be able to run in a VM :>Mar 19 16:43
sebsebseb_Goblin: plus he seems to think the teachers aren't good at computers anyway so :DMar 19 16:43
sebsebsebMinceR: I meant Windows games and stuff like thatMar 19 16:43
_Goblin" he won't just use it like a toaster" - :) I should trademark that saying!Mar 19 16:43
sebsebsebMinceR: 3D Windows games, that kind of thingMar 19 16:44
MinceRicMar 19 16:44
sebsebseboh sure heh as games consoles, but wellMar 19 16:44
sebsebsebif his friends start playing Windows gamesMar 19 16:44
sebsebsebthen he will want to do that as well hmmMar 19 16:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Synapse Launcher Gets A Do-ish Theme, Drag'n'Drop Support http://bit.ly/fajVaCMar 19 16:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Nautilus Elementary Lives On, Version 2.32 Will Land In Ubuntu Maverick And Natty Soon http://bit.ly/frBF0XMar 19 16:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @wikileaks: Provide primary sources, or be ignored: http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/mar/19/bad-science-ben-goldacreMar 19 16:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @doctorow: RT @tempo: Evolution of bytescale: kilo-, mega-, giga-, tera-, peta-, exa-, zetta-, and my personal fave, yottaMar 19 16:44
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sebsebsebmaybe the next console he'll want is an Xbox depending on how things go hmmMar 19 16:44
sebsebseboh so Nautilus Elemtary is living on hmm interesting ^Mar 19 16:45
sebsebseblet's have a lookMar 19 16:45
sebsebseb_Goblin: MinceR shame that Linux since market share and money reasons, is well, seen as being really sucky by a lot of peopel when it comes to gamesMar 19 16:45
sebsebsebschestowitz: ^Mar 19 16:45
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sebsebseboh sure we have some pretty great open games, but well  the commercial games are the ones that are seen as the good games by many peopleMar 19 16:46
schestowitz^_^Mar 19 16:46
MinceRindeedMar 19 16:46
_Goblinsebsebseb: not if you are the devs for Oilrush....its seems theres more money in Linux....Mar 19 16:46
sebsebsebMinceR: I mean it would be great really if Linux distro's could basically 100% properly compete against games consoles and  commerical WIndows games, but noMar 19 16:46
schestowitzopen !=commercial?!Mar 19 16:46
schestowitzopen !=close\Mar 19 16:46
sebsebsebschestowitz: propritary gamesMar 19 16:46
sebsebsebMinceR: _Goblin schestowitz  I even mentioned something to him about  the Linux and PS3 thing, but well he's to young to understand that properlyMar 19 16:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @Energia: Moon is closest to Earth than in 20 years. Keep your eye out for some Moon Nazi structures, you just might spot 'em up there!Mar 19 16:47
sebsebsebMinceR: _Goblin schestowitz  I think the Sony  and PS3 stuff, is one reason to buy less Sony stuff :DMar 19 16:48
sebsebsebthing is only not that many people do that, well loads of other people still will, so it doesn't really make a differenceMar 19 16:49
_Goblinschestowitz: I think later this year we should do the top 10 best creative commons tracks from TechBytes......Mar 19 16:49
MinceRsebsebseb: it isMar 19 16:50
sebsebsebMinceR: _Goblin schestowitz  Oh sure we know otherwise, but a lot of the time by many people, Linux distro's are seen as this sucky other OS, because they can't run this and that, hmmMar 19 16:50
MinceRmany people are not knowledgeable about IT, news at 11Mar 19 16:50
sebsebsebMinceR: My little brother will be 10 this yearMar 19 16:50
_GoblinIT = Internet Things (From the sitcom The IT Crowd)Mar 19 16:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] RT @wikileaks: Provide primary sources, or be ignored: http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/mar/19/bad-science-ben-goldacreMar 19 16:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: A case of never letting the source spoil a good story | Ben Goldacre | Comment is free | The Guardian .::. Size~: 249.98 KBMar 19 16:51
sebsebsebalso at 11 yeah a lot of them don't really know much about computers, and their schools don't really help with that either, because about all the majority of teachers can do is turn the computer on and off,  go on websites, send email, and use Micrsooft Office, hmmMar 19 16:51
sebsebsebit is really quite a sad world we live in, when it comes to computing!Mar 19 16:51
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schestowitz_Goblin: yeah, tracks showMar 19 16:51
schestowitzTrackBytesMar 19 16:52
_Goblinyep......like it!Mar 19 16:53
schestowitzIT=idiots-intolerant :->Mar 19 16:53
_GoblinI wish I knew if this track was CC....... http://remix.kwed.org/files/RKOfiles/DHS%20-%20Superseghe%20dell'Amore%20e%20Citofono%20(For%20Yer%20Heart).mp3Mar 19 16:53
sebsebsebMinceR: _Goblin schestowitz  Also I don't like the attitude many people have, where they think the best tech stuff is from companies, so like yeah software, but also stuff like Facebook and Twitter evenMar 19 16:53
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MinceR+1Mar 19 16:53
_Goblinwould love to play it on the show....its from the Amiga demoscene/remixMar 19 16:53
sebsebsebMinceR: Identica is way better than Twitter, most open source / free software is better than their propritary equivlents really,  and Facebook sucksMar 19 16:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Off to bed. New logo and 3D mascot for !OggCamp done and I got some headway on the new site. More tomorrow...Mar 19 16:54
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sebsebsebMinceR: SOFTWARE FREEDOM!Mar 19 16:55
_Goblin"The only true freedom is freedom from the hearts desires"Mar 19 16:55
sebsebseb_Goblin: anyway yeah PS3 network, playing some games online, could be something, but I am not really into games anymore :)Mar 19 16:56
sebsebseband never really was properly in the first placeMar 19 16:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Libya: The WikiLeaks War? http://alturl.com/9gn34 !wlMar 19 16:56
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_GoblinKillzone 3 I fully recommend....Mar 19 16:56
sebsebseb_Goblin: of course put Linux on the PS3, and well Sony won't like that nowMar 19 16:56
_Goblinunless you don't put it onlineMar 19 16:56
sebsebseb_Goblin: you know they say PS3 is a super computer?  well I mean I haven't even seen one beforeMar 19 16:56
sebsebsebuhmmMar 19 16:56
sebsebseb_Goblin: I mean for real I thinkMar 19 16:56
_Goblinto be fair though...........Mar 19 16:56
sebsebsebanyway uhmmMar 19 16:57
_GoblinLinux was hardly a speed demon on the PS3Mar 19 16:57
sebsebsebwell they disabled the other OS feature now anyway, but without thatMar 19 16:57
sebsebsebit's pretty much like any other games console really?Mar 19 16:57
sebsebseb_Goblin: and what about the OS or whatevever that comes on PS3,  I mean as far as I know can go on websites with it and use MSN?Mar 19 16:57
_Goblinit has a browser yes.....Mar 19 16:57
sebsebsebI mean ok yeah can play games, but what else can be done?Mar 19 16:58
_Goblinnot really used it that much.....Mar 19 16:58
sebsebseb_Goblin: well WII has a browser to it has Opera the Internet channelMar 19 16:58
_Goblinwith the ps3 though you should be able to plug any USB keyboard into it.Mar 19 16:58
_Goblinand I recommend you do.....Mar 19 16:58
sebsebsebrecommend plug one in why?Mar 19 16:59
_Goblinthe controller keyboard (available separately) is awfulMar 19 16:59
sebsebsebmaybe PS3 should be in our living roomMar 19 16:59
_Goblinand you may find you have problems with a blutooth oneMar 19 16:59
sebsebsebafterall that's the console I would want to play maybe quite a bit as wellMar 19 16:59
sebsebsebplus games are better on a bigger TVMar 19 16:59
sebsebsebwell I mean with some good games I would maybe want to play sometimes as wellMar 19 16:59
_GoblinmmmmmMar 19 17:00
_Goblinor you could sit closer to a smaller tvMar 19 17:00
sebsebseb_Goblin: yeah he's a got a small TV in his room,  I woudn't normally go in there to play games thoughMar 19 17:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks supporter Daniel Ellsberg arrested at Whitehouse | WaPo http://is.gd/AawCna !wlMar 19 17:01
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sebsebseb_Goblin: MinceR schestowitz Shame about the lack of great open games thoughMar 19 17:01
schestowitzUploading ogg nowMar 19 17:01
_Goblin:)Mar 19 17:01
schestowitzMaybe done in half an hourMar 19 17:02
_Goblinsebsebseb: you wait until Pioneer comes out.......all us oldie Elite-Frontier fans will say differentMar 19 17:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] Look at this, and then think about the Japanese nuclear plant. Should we put nuclear plants near seismic fault lines? http://bit.ly/fL6srDMar 19 17:02
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sebsebseb_Goblin: what's pionner, and what do you eman oldie elite-frontier fans ?Mar 19 17:03
*DaemonFC runs the following on schestowitz's PC... sudo apt-get install banshee pinta gnome-settings-daemon && echo "!#bin/bash gnome-settings-daemon" > ~/.kde/Autostart/gnome-settings-daemon && chmod +x ~/.kde/Autostart/gnome-settings-daemon && gnome-settings-daemon && banshee-1 && pintaMar 19 17:05
DaemonFC*grin*Mar 19 17:05
DaemonFChe loves the pintaMar 19 17:05
sebsebsebDaemonFC: I don't think schestowitz is on Ubuntu at the moment, or maybe he's on Mint hmmMar 19 17:05
sebsebsebsudo apt-get install deleteubuntuandinstallabetterdistroautomaticallycrazylongpackagefilename :dMar 19 17:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Interview with Julian Assange's Australian solicitor (video) http://vimeo.com/21227284 !wlMar 19 17:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @wikileaks: WikiLeaks supporter Daniel Ellsberg arrested at Whitehouse | WaPo http://is.gd/AawCnaMar 19 17:06
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DaemonFCwait, that should have been apt-get install -yMar 19 17:06
DaemonFCI failMar 19 17:07
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_Goblinsebsebseb: I'll link....its a game based off an old game from the PC/Amiga - http://pioneerspacesim.net/Mar 19 17:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: What is Pioneer? | Pioneer .::. Size~: 8.75 KBMar 19 17:08
_Goblinsebsebseb: sort of GTA in spaceMar 19 17:08
DaemonFCI'm singing along to Johnny CashMar 19 17:08
DaemonFCugghhMar 19 17:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Gallery: #Ubuntu 11.04 Alpha 3 http://ur1.ca/3l933 #gnu #linuxMar 19 17:09
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schestowitz[00:05] <DaemonFC> he loves the pintaMar 19 17:09
_GoblinDaemonFC: Im sorry to hear that.Mar 19 17:10
schestowitzdrunk man comes back home apt-get pintMar 19 17:10
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schestowitzDebian says: did you mean  'sudo apt-get pinta'?Mar 19 17:10
schestowitzYES.Mar 19 17:10
schestowitzresolving depdencies.Mar 19 17:11
schestowitzDrunk man thinks hardMar 19 17:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Bulgarian "Criminal Radiation" leaks http://alturl.com/zxedi !wlMar 19 17:11
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schestowitzOK to install mono-common mono-mono-mono-mono mono-* mono-blah  mono-mono-mono-mono mono-* mono-blah  mono-mono-mono-mono mono-* mono-blah  mono-mono-mono-mono mono-* mono-blah  mono-mono-mono-mono mono-* mono-blah  mono-mono-mono-mono mono-* mono-blah Mar 19 17:11
schestowitzrunk man hits ENTERMar 19 17:11
schestowitzNoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo....!Mar 19 17:11
schestowitzpat-get install pintaMar 19 17:11
schestowitzYou know what they say.... One you have a pinta it doesn't come up unless you throw upMar 19 17:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @Farrah3m: Today Egyptians voted on constitutional amendments, OUR FIRST FREE ELECTIONS SINCE...... ONLY GOD KNOWS HOW LONG! :D #egyptMar 19 17:14
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_GoblinJust got another one of those email scams telling me about the millions I could get if I help them......Mar 19 17:15
_Goblin"Please leave us the infarmation:"Mar 19 17:15
_GoblinI wish they would at least learn to spellMar 19 17:16
schestowitzI get many of those mails recentlyMar 19 17:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @Falkvinge: I have now been called to give defense testimony in investigation of #Assange here in SE.Mar 19 17:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks: The Holy See saw it better http://alturl.com/wnfgd !wlMar 19 17:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @TonyClement_MP: The ice fishing huts are still on the lake, but won't be for much longer.Mar 19 17:16
schestowitzIt's the main type or spam I getMar 19 17:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Hindu : News / The India Cables : The Holy See saw it better .::. Size~: 44.15 KBMar 19 17:16
schestowitzAlways with large sums somewhereMar 19 17:16
schestowitzSome are in French nowMar 19 17:16
schestowitzRE: SINCERELYMar 19 17:16
schestowitzGOOD DAYMar 19 17:16
_GoblinI sometimes wind them up with pretended interest and silly names.Mar 19 17:17
schestowitzBUSINESS PROPOSALMar 19 17:17
schestowitzUrgent transactionMar 19 17:17
_GoblinI love the ones that talk about the "wicked step-mother".....its like a fairy story.....Mar 19 17:17
_Goblinare step mothers wicked? I'd say not....its mothers in law that are the wicked ones.Mar 19 17:18
DaemonFCMe: "Most devices that play MP3 advertise it as a feature, a fact which has always baffled me"Mar 19 17:19
schestowitz http://www.obsidianshell.com/gfx/port/1010/img4.jpg  < "wicked step-mother"?Mar 19 17:19
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DaemonFCB-)Mar 19 17:19
_Goblinlol...Mar 19 17:19
schestowitzDaemonFC: do you have s sister called Stacy?Mar 19 17:19
_Goblinah....its our featured CC band tonightMar 19 17:19
DaemonFCnoMar 19 17:19
schestowitzSo yo momma "ain't got it goin on"Mar 19 17:20
schestowitz!Google fountain stacy'sMar 19 17:20
_GoblinAnyone who downloads the Techbytes show tonight is in for a treat......Obsidian Shell are an excellent band.Mar 19 17:20
schestowitz!google fountain stacy'sMar 19 17:21
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - YouTube - Fountain of Wayne- Stacy's Mom (Chipmunk) | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DgoaO9T4bZiwMar 19 17:21
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - YouTube - Fountain of Wayne (Stacey's Mum) acted out by the Sims 2 | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3Dgsebw6molWcMar 19 17:21
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Stacys Mom tab by Fountains Of Wayne @ Ultimate-Guitar.Com | http://tabs.ultimate-guitar.com/f/fountains_of_wayne/stacys_mom_tab.htmMar 19 17:21
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Fountains Of Wayne - Stacy's Mom Lyrics | http://www.lyrics007.com/Fountains%2520Of%2520Wayne%2520Lyrics/Stacy%27s%2520Mom%2520Lyrics.htmlMar 19 17:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks: When India nearly crossed the Rubicon on Sri Lanka http://alturl.com/dr6oh !wlMar 19 17:21
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schestowitzwhy is it called Fountain of Wayne?Mar 19 17:23
schestowitzMayb Stacy's mum will be impressed by Wayne's fountain? o_0Mar 19 17:24
schestowitzhttp://www.feld.com/wp/archives/2011/02/rim-acquires-gist.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+FeldThoughts+%28Feld+Thoughts%29Mar 19 17:25
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schestowitz13 mindsMar 19 17:25
schestowitz*minsMar 19 17:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @wikileaks2 WikiLeaks supporter Daniel Ellsberg arrested at Whitehouse | WaPo http://is.gd/AawCna !wlMar 19 17:26
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schestowitzWhat was the show name again, _Goblin?Mar 19 17:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Rally for Bradley Manning, tomorrow, Sunday, March 20! http://is.gd/9ya1pR !wlMar 19 17:31
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_GoblinTechbytes?Mar 19 17:32
_Goblinplease don't say I messed the show name!Mar 19 17:32
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_Goblin.....Mar 19 17:32
schestowitzWhat abou song titled/artists?Mar 19 17:33
schestowitz*titkesMar 19 17:33
schestowitz_Goblin: episode headlineMar 19 17:33
_Goblin?Mar 19 17:33
schestowitzyou suggested a name for the epMar 19 17:34
_Goblinah....Mar 19 17:34
schestowitzI can't recall which oneMar 19 17:34
_Goblin"You please some people"Mar 19 17:34
_Goblin*cantrMar 19 17:34
schestowitzDone in 4 minutes...Mar 19 17:34
_Goblin*cantMar 19 17:34
_GoblinI have a few alternatives.....Mar 19 17:35
_Goblin"Heroes and villans"Mar 19 17:35
_Goblin"Roys still got his Dongle out"Mar 19 17:35
_Gobliner....Mar 19 17:35
_Goblincan't think of anymore at the momentMar 19 17:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @wikileaks2 Rally for Bradley Manning, tomorrow, Sunday, March 20! http://is.gd/9ya1pR !wlMar 19 17:36
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_GoblinI wonder when Brandon's audio is out.....Mar 19 17:36
_GoblinI'm very interested to hear what he has to sayMar 19 17:36
MinceR"herp derp you're all communists"Mar 19 17:38
_Goblinah.....Mar 19 17:39
_Goblincommunism....you've got to love it.Mar 19 17:39
_GoblinI supposeMar 19 17:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks takes out US Ambassador to Mexico http://alturl.com/b5qz7 !wlMar 19 17:41
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cubezzzpass the vodka comrades Mar 19 17:41
cubezzz;-)Mar 19 17:41
_GoblinIt will have to pernod....Mar 19 17:41
_Goblindon't drink VodkaMar 19 17:41
_Goblininfact I don't really drink at all....Mar 19 17:41
_Goblinvery rare these daysMar 19 17:42
_Goblin"infact I don't really drink at all...." I absorb energy from the sun and moisture from the air.....that makes me a plant I supposeMar 19 17:43
MinceRmaybe they eat foods with high water content?Mar 19 17:44
cubezzzplants need water tooMar 19 17:44
cubezzzmost of them Mar 19 17:44
_Goblinbut do they "drink" in the conventional sense?Mar 19 17:44
cubezzzwith their roots?Mar 19 17:44
_Goblindo they all have roots?Mar 19 17:45
_Goblin;)Mar 19 17:45
cubezzzI think so, but I'm no expert Mar 19 17:45
_GoblinI'm just being obstructive to try and hide my incorrect statement....Mar 19 17:45
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/?p=46639 got show notes yet?Mar 19 17:45
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_Goblinyep....Mar 19 17:45
_Goblintwo secondsMar 19 17:45
schestowitzoopsMar 19 17:46
schestowitzdon't link to the above. Use http://techrights.org/2011/03/19/techbytes-episode-35/Mar 19 17:46
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_Goblinhttp://openbytes.wordpress.com/2011/03/20/techbytes-audiocast-%E2%80%93-episode-35-%E2%80%93-190311-you-cant-please-some-people/Mar 19 17:46
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schestowitzNice theme!Mar 19 17:47
schestowitzTakes getting used to seeing itMar 19 17:47
schestowitzJamendo promoMar 19 17:47
DaemonFCschestowitz: can you give me a UK postal code?Mar 19 17:47
DaemonFCanything, I don't careMar 19 17:47
schestowitzm40 7edMar 19 17:49
_GoblinWD5 APPMar 19 17:50
_GoblinDaemonFC: for what purpose?Mar 19 17:50
schestowitzMP3 will be up in 36 minutes, I'm off to bed. very tiredMar 19 17:50
DaemonFCtechnically, fraudMar 19 17:50
schestowitzI want to try to record more often with gordon and timMar 19 17:50
schestowitzShow notes done throughtout showMar 19 17:50
schestowitz*houtMar 19 17:51
schestowitzgnMar 19 17:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #TechBytes Episode 35: You Can’t Please Some People http://ur1.ca/3lawg show notes at http://ur1.ca/3lazqMar 19 17:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] !TechBytes Episode 35: You Can’t Please Some People http://ur1.ca/3lawg show notes at http://ur1.ca/3lazqMar 19 17:51
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DaemonFCunlicensed listening to imaginary propertyMar 19 17:51
DaemonFC(Spotify)Mar 19 17:51
DaemonFCSo I have two optionsMar 19 17:52
DaemonFCdisposable account every 14 daysMar 19 17:52
DaemonFCor find a way to pay with a card that looks like it's from the UKMar 19 17:53
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GoForbes28schestowitz: What will techbytes be recorded now?Mar 19 17:53
GoForbes28recorded on?Mar 19 17:53
DaemonFCSpotify makes Last.FM look like warmed over diarrhea but thanks to the MAFIAA, my money is no good thereMar 19 17:55
DaemonFC:)Mar 19 17:55
GoForbes28Al heil MAFIAAMar 19 17:55
DaemonFCYes Mein Fuhrer! Buy EMI back catalog at Walmart, AT ONCE!!!Mar 19 17:57
DaemonFC80s hair bands on corrupt CD ROMs with Windows spyware and an Autostart.ini? Mein Gott in Himmel!Mar 19 17:59
DaemonFCScheisse! Mein Komputer Machiene wilst not kopy dein disc!Mar 19 18:00
DaemonFCI think one of those Hitler videos would be appropriate if they wouldn't just take it right back downMar 19 18:01
DaemonFC"Hitler finds out that Spotify is not available in his country"Mar 19 18:01
DaemonFChttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBTve3r2HUc&feature=fvstMar 19 18:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] RT @liotier #Japan radiation levels in plain English : http://j.mp/f9UzdL - Impact of #Fukushima crisis is actually low. #Nuclear panic ...Mar 19 18:07
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DaemonFChttp://img860.imageshack.us/img860/5460/snapshot6.pngMar 19 18:13
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DaemonFCit kind of works in Wine :/Mar 19 18:13
_GoblinGoForbes28: Techbytes continues to be recorded with SkypeMar 19 18:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] RT @liotier Fukushima situation has exposed a grave danger to our world. It isn’t radiation, it is the poor state of science education - ...Mar 19 18:16
twitterSkype plus GTK record my desktop? Mar 19 18:19
_GoblinyepMar 19 18:19
_GoblinnoMar 19 18:19
twitterThat would give video until GNU Telephony gets off the ground.Mar 19 18:19
_Goblinactually....Mar 19 18:19
_Goblincan't remember what roy is using to recordMar 19 18:20
twitterGTKRecordmydesktop should do a nice job of things.  If Roy has the fancy pay version, he could film everyone's faces or avatars. Mar 19 18:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Tell the EPA: Protect us from toxic mercury, arsenic, lead and other air pollution. http://bit.ly/gx4wESMar 19 18:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Plain clothes UAW members destroy a Toyota at Chicago Auto Show to protect US jobs... said car manufactured in Kentucky http://ur1.ca/3lbusMar 19 18:22
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twitterUgh, I can't stand these GM reading estimations of dose.  It's the contamination that will get you because that is dose you can carry the rest of your life.Mar 19 18:25
twitterIt only takes 4 micrograms of Cs-137 to deliver a dose the might kill you in a week. Mar 19 18:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] listening to !techbytes ep 35, hot off the pressMar 19 18:26
Diablo-D3yeah, but 4 micrograms is HUGE for cesiumMar 19 18:26
twitterSure.Mar 19 18:27
twitterbut huge amounts have been spewed and a silly GM reading will only tell you part of the story.Mar 19 18:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] Check out What’s Coming Soon in Firefox 4 http://bit.ly/hJU7PEMar 19 18:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Check out What’s Coming Soon in Firefox 4 | The Mozilla Blog .::. Size~: 38.65 KBMar 19 18:27
twitterI've seen reliable reports of readings within 30 km of the plant at 400 microSv per hour.  That's 40 R per hour in old time Health Physics talk and 13 hours could kill you.Mar 19 18:30
twitterThat reading might have taken contamination into account.Mar 19 18:30
twitterThe reading here, http://www.cbryanjones.com/journal/2011/3/19/japan-radiation-levels-in-english.htmlMar 19 18:31
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twitterat 30 km from the plant is 11 microSv/hourMar 19 18:31
twitterstill a big whopping 1 R/hour.Mar 19 18:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] TechBytes Audiocast – Episode 35 – 19/03/11 – “You can’t please some people..” http://tinyurl.com/5tjjt25 !techbytesMar 19 18:32
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twitterA radiation worker will get their annual dose from gamma alone in five hours sitting there.  Japan has raised the allowed limit to 25 R per year so as not to deplete their supply of people who can do anything about the problem.Mar 19 18:33
twitterThe big deal is that those reactors should never have popped their top.  The backup generators should have worked.  Now we all have to watch out for the plum and think about what kind of farming can be done where it lands.Mar 19 18:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] RT @exador23 RIP Mo. Mohammed Nabbous, citizen journalist. killed trying to let the world know Benghazi, his city of 1 http://ur1.ca/3lc4dMar 19 18:36
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twitterhey, this is nice .... http://www.floridaoilspilllaw.com/breaking-report-new-huge-spill-deepwater-horizon-mc243-slick-100-miles-long-skimming-started-daysMar 19 18:41
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twitterThey also seem to be spraying Corexit on it.Mar 19 18:41
twitterWow, looks like the plum from Japan went all over the US and is now on it's way to EU.  Very nice of them.  http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12307698Mar 19 18:43
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twitterOh, pardon me.  http://enenews.com/fukushima-plume-north-atlantic-caribbean-canadas-east-coast-yesterday-cloud-covered-north-americaMar 19 18:43
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twitteran interesting collection of reactor news http://www.floridaoilspilllaw.com/march-19-latest-fukushima-updates-last-24-hoursMar 19 18:44
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twitterbut hey, it's OK if people just lie enough and die quietly. Mar 19 18:45
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twitterit's even better when insiders can make a buck off it.  http://www.floridaoilspilllaw.com/insider-trading-bp-knowledge-actual-flow-rate-engage-illegal-stock-salesMar 19 18:47
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twitternice!Mar 19 18:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] I don't think so! From mar 20 pahe 3 of Sunday times http://ur1.ca/3lcgyMar 19 18:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Currently downloading Pioneer 1 S01E02 http://vodo.net/pioneerone !creativecommons !cc !bittorrentMar 19 18:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] sized* evenMar 19 18:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks/@wikileaks] wikileaks: Rally for Bradley Manning, tomorrow, Sunday, March 20! http://is.gd/9ya1pR http://bit.ly/eZu4TGMar 19 19:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks/@wikileaks] wikileaks: WikiLeaks takes out US Ambassador to Mexico http://www.state.gov/secretary/rm/2011/03/158664.htm http://bit.ly/gTQdW2Mar 19 19:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] some days I read "WoW" as "World of Wankers" instead of World of Warcraft ;)Mar 19 19:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] or "Wankers of the World"Mar 19 19:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] the whole .xxx domains have been rejected by the adult industry again & again, despite continual attempts by some to bring it into lawMar 19 19:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♺ @LilianeKhalil My article on #Libya appearing now in #SabahEnglish Online version: http://ur1.ca/3ldvm Thanks to friends at Reuters & AP!Mar 19 19:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] isn't "hot tip" something they use in torture sessions to encourage you to sing like a canary?Mar 19 19:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] lol "!Ubuntu's da bomb" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDisnYe38ioMar 19 20:04
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DaemonFCi got KOTOR working in Wine through POL, hoorayMar 19 20:10
DaemonFCthe free ati drivers run this game better than CatalystMar 19 20:11
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DaemonFCI don't know why so many people are hung up over OpenGL 3/4Mar 19 20:11
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DaemonFCOpenGL 2.1 is enough that you can map DirectX 9 to it and play most Windows games that run effectively in Wine anywayMar 19 20:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] /me likes 'snx' - command line NX client. Feels a lot more lightweight and stable than #QtNX http://is.gd/k1xzw6 !N900 !N810Mar 19 20:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] I !amreading Carl Hiaasen's Star Island ... it is picking up. Much as I love the gov, CH needs to consider writing books in which he isn'tMar 19 20:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] !China wants to become technology dumb? another prominent Dutch-only website blocked: tweakers.net #unreachableMar 19 20:27
DaemonFCI love --no-install-recommendsMar 19 20:28
DaemonFCUbuntu's recommends system is so fucked upMar 19 20:28
DaemonFCit tries to bring in tons of crap I don't care about every time I try to install anything GNOME-ishMar 19 20:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] let's hope it is just a glitch in the connection and tweakers.net will work. from a proxy it does. would not make sense; Dutch-only. !chinaMar 19 20:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] http://ur1.ca/3lf2t pfsc <3Mar 19 20:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @salyavin xkcd did a very nice radiation chart http://xkcd.com/radiation/Mar 19 20:56
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DaemonFChttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozUZkO2yDvIMar 19 20:56
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DaemonFChttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0URa7ByznRIMar 19 20:57
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DaemonFC"Mommy why are you in bed all the time?"Mar 19 20:59
DaemonFC"Shut up you little brat!" *throws beer bottle at the wall* *CRASH!*Mar 19 21:00
DaemonFCthat would make a better commercialMar 19 21:00
DaemonFCmost of the doctors I end up seeing are like "Oh sure, here's something that will make you feel worse"Mar 19 21:02
DaemonFCthen 5 minutes of their time translates into $100 plus medicationMar 19 21:02
DaemonFC"Daddy, does mommy still love us?"Mar 19 21:03
DaemonFC"Sure little Timmy, she just needs her hormones managed a little better"Mar 19 21:03
DaemonFCB-)Mar 19 21:03
DaemonFCThe good folks at Charter know just what brand of horse estrogen and anti-psychotics to give herMar 19 21:05
DaemonFCIt's perfectly natural to have a midlife crisis and drown your children in the bath tubMar 19 21:06
DaemonFCthey have medical explanations for this now that can get you probation for thatMar 19 21:06
DaemonFCthere's only one explanation for 5 counts of aggravated murder, a chemical imbalance in your brainMar 19 21:07
DaemonFCif you promise to take pills and check in with a probation officer once a month, this can get played down to a E FelonyMar 19 21:08
DaemonFChttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsBZw6q7uBUMar 19 21:24
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DaemonFC"If he gives you a cold look and you start to think he might be the antichrist, get out of the room"Mar 19 21:27
DaemonFCwell, that described my psychiatristMar 19 21:27
DaemonFCevery time I go in there he wants to put my on something that is more expensive and has more side effectsMar 19 21:27
DaemonFChttp://www.youtube.com/user/bipolarorwakingup#p/u/0/Db8AYSrs2kkMar 19 21:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] lol, #FullCirclePodcast REALLY need to ditch the slow title section voices, it sounds soooo lameMar 19 21:38
oiaohmhttp://www.networkworld.com/community/blog/phone-maker-publicly-says-%E2%80%98no%E2%80%99-wp7Mar 19 22:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] I wonder if managers read "GB Mem" in PC specs as "GiggleBites of Memorandums" #maybenotMar 19 22:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nisshh/@nisshh] About time i checked out the Linux Outlaws podcast. Should i just watch the latest episodes or start from #1?Mar 19 22:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] preparing to install !opensuse 11.4 #KDE to the netbook, was very impressed with the live modeMar 19 22:32
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DaemonFCI got my XBOX 360 controller working with GensMar 19 22:44
DaemonFChttp://img535.imageshack.us/img535/3280/snapshot7l.pngMar 19 22:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] lol, #ZTE turns down #WP7 reality bites when you have to compete against proper competition, and simply can't #Android #iPhone #SymbianMar 19 22:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] The moon as seen from here (quite a while after moonrise). http://lnxwalt.status.net/attachment/1412Mar 19 22:52
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DaemonFCB-)Mar 19 22:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] apparently #wp7 was well regarded but poorly received. Well regarded by who? the mainstream media who have corporate deals with #Microsoft?Mar 19 22:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] #TopGear series 16, episode 6: Hamster drives in two childhood favourites !!! Porsche #959 and Ferrari #F40Mar 19 22:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] did I just see a #Moggie (Morris Minor) when they pushed the F40 back? :-D #TopGearMar 19 23:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] #TopGear S16E6,11:36: Ferrari F40 #DNS (Did Not Start), Porsche #959 #DNF (Did Not Finish) :-PMar 19 23:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] 'Safe distance or #Audi distance' #LOL same here in !ChinaMar 19 23:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Government admits to private theft of over $7 million dollars worth of silver owned by millions of Liberty Dollar buyers http://ur1.ca/3lizeMar 19 23:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @themadhatter if there was no other way, then I agree, it must be spent to maintain culture etc but there is, there's also a recession onMar 19 00:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @themadhatter libraries seem like phone boxes, at one time there was a valued need, until affordable landlines, then cell phones arrivedMar 19 00:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Librarians not RIAA etc..Mar 19 00:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @themadhatter the world has moved on where reading books is niche, and reading actual paper books even more niche,loaing them even moreMar 19 00:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @themadhatter @thistleweb I am not talking about paper books I am saying distribute digitally but retain skills of librariansMar 19 00:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @themadhatter Yes, automate the simple stuff and retain the research skills, this is what I am sayingMar 19 00:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @themadhatter I'd argue that what we're talking about is a researcher then not a librarianMar 19 00:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @themadhatter :)Mar 19 00:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] @gbraad Yeah, I know. Waiting on one thing before announcement goes out.Mar 19 00:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] RT @diveintomark How many social media experts does it take to change a lightbulb #light #bulb #lamp #lighting #sex #hardcore #justinbieberMar 19 00:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] @gbraad But I guess you just announced it for me, so I'll have to give !fedora a proper announcement soon. :PMar 19 00:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] @rrix now the work just got started... ;-)Mar 19 00:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] It appears I locked myself out of my server twice todayMar 19 01:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] #Libya France Britain USA, they have made their minds up regime change not "protection" if colonial powers do not open up bloody miracleMar 19 01:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] BBC career journalists do not only not rock the boat they ask British government how smooth? Independent? BBC very old joke.Mar 19 01:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] Congratulations. I am happy to have this day adopted a wonderful new son, and to have married him to three wonderful young women. #amwritingMar 19 01:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @themadhatter You married him to three women? Cruel. One is enough :-)Mar 19 01:17
DaemonFChttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/03/18/microsoft_ie9_tpl_site_blocker/Mar 19 01:21
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DaemonFC"IE9 now has a confusing array of poorly-implemented privacy features that interact with each other in strange ways."Mar 19 01:24
DaemonFCheheMar 19 01:24
DaemonFCMozilla's Do Not Track is just "P3P v2" if you ask meMar 19 01:26
DaemonFC"Cranor also co-authored a report last year that found that Microsoft's implementation of P3P, a W3C standard, is now being widely sidestepped by web sites that are deliberately mis-representing their privacy policies to prevent cookie blocking."Mar 19 01:27
DaemonFCand this is actually better than Firefox 4 thoughMar 19 01:27
DaemonFCwith Do Not Track, all they have to do is passively ignore you instead of lying about their privacy policy :)Mar 19 01:27
DaemonFCDo Not Track? OK Mr. Firefox 4 user, here's a few cookies that expire in 2177 and a couple of Flash LSOsMar 19 01:29
DaemonFCthe biggest limiting factor in tracking the typical Windows user is probably mean time between reinstallsMar 19 01:31
DaemonFCB-)Mar 19 01:32
DaemonFCKOTOR II was such a disappointment on the XBOXMar 19 01:33
DaemonFCnot only did it keep freezing and eating my saved games, I got to the end and find this basically unkillable bossMar 19 01:34
DaemonFCafter the rest of the game was so easy I could have done it in my sleepMar 19 01:34
*DaemonFC wonders how Obsidian stays in businessMar 19 01:35
DaemonFCMinceR: Best use for an XBOX is solder some more RAM into it and use it as a Linux PCMar 19 01:35
DaemonFCbest use for an XBOS 360? Sell it and save the controller because it works in LinuxMar 19 01:36
DaemonFCbest use for a Zune, now I'm stumpedMar 19 01:36
DaemonFCB-)Mar 19 01:36
DaemonFCyet another Microsoft product that doesn't even conform to their own specificationsMar 19 01:37
DaemonFCHere's what we want you to do, hardware vendors.... FailsForSureMar 19 01:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Listening to BBC report on Cuba. Michael Voss condescending wanker #failMar 19 01:39
DaemonFCHere's what we'll do...Zune store DRM Mar 19 01:39
DaemonFCHere's what you will do.......MTP, this godawful protocol that doesn't let the user decide where his files end upMar 19 01:40
DaemonFCOh, you reverse engineered that? Well, it doesn't matter, WE use "MTP-X"Mar 19 01:40
DaemonFCHey customers, here's some WMAs! Don't worry, they'll play as long as our licensing server is up!Mar 19 01:41
DaemonFChttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/02/09/java_floating_point_bug_fixed/Mar 19 01:43
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Oracle patches decade-old 'Mark-of-the-Beast' bug in Java • The Register .::. Size~: 21.24 KBMar 19 01:43
DaemonFCand some people wonder why I don't let that THING on my computerMar 19 01:44
DaemonFC"For some reason, the link to the original report was removed last week with no explanation."Mar 19 01:44
DaemonFCA ten year span of a critical security bug in something you're trying to sucker customers into using is not something you want to call attention to?Mar 19 01:45
DaemonFC:)Mar 19 01:45
DaemonFCif you have to use JAVA it's better to use OpenJDK (Iced Tea) if you canMar 19 01:46
DaemonFClots of these bugs that Oracle are sitting on only affect their VMMar 19 01:46
DaemonFCit's easier to sit on bugs in closed source softwareMar 19 01:48
DaemonFCno big shock thereMar 19 01:48
DaemonFCthen you can do things the Oracle wayMar 19 01:48
DaemonFCshutting the public out of bug reports, and using NDAs and lawsuit threats to suppress bugs in your programMar 19 01:48
DaemonFCOracle does Oracle Linux the same way Oracle does Oracle everything elseMar 19 01:49
DaemonFCthat's why anyone who uses it is crazyMar 19 01:49
DaemonFCand CentOS developers are kind of hostile to the public too if you come up to them questioning why they did something they didMar 19 01:50
*DaemonFC thinks Scientific Linux is the only free RHEL clone to useMar 19 01:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] RE BBC Cuba Michael Voss reminds me of Brian Sewell apart from Sewell knows what he is talking about.Mar 19 01:51
DaemonFChttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/03/18/google_chrome_update/Mar 19 01:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Google patches Flash bug before Adobe • The Register .::. Size~: 23.2 KBMar 19 01:52
DaemonFCthey didn't patch it, they have access to builds that the public doesn'tMar 19 01:53
DaemonFCthe official Chrome is packed full of Adobe crapware that introduces all kinds of problems whether the user would have requested those plug-ins or notMar 19 01:54
DaemonFCmaybe the Register should talk about how the flaw was only there because Chrome users are force fed Trash in the beginningMar 19 01:54
DaemonFCin Fedora with Chromium you can use nspluginwrapper to wrap Flash (works on 64-bit Flash too) and then feed it to ChromiumMar 19 01:57
DaemonFCthat way you have Chromium's sandbox and SELinux confining itMar 19 01:57
DaemonFCGoogle is getting to be a little like MicrosoftMar 19 01:58
DaemonFCjust jam it all in there so everything worksMar 19 01:58
DaemonFCdamn the torpedos!Mar 19 01:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @Anony_Ops: RT @diceylee808: Live from #Libya - UNCONFIRMED: Gaddafi has bombed the airport as well as random residentual areas...Mar 19 02:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @themadhatter Then as ill well.Mar 19 02:04
DaemonFCwhy do they have to call it DRM?Mar 19 02:05
DaemonFCEvery time I look for information on the direct rendering manager, I get digital restrictions management in my search resultsMar 19 02:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @themadhatter Last was a spoonerism I meant then all is wellMar 19 02:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @themadhatter just posted re my spoonerismMar 19 02:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] But looking at the time, it's 2:00 AM, I've done 3000 words today, and I should go beat the pillow with my head. Good night all!Mar 19 02:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @themadhatter With her agreement you should dent some good ones.Mar 19 02:09
cubezzz"Direct Rendering Manager"Mar 19 02:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @themadhatter depends what they're trying to do to him ;)Mar 19 02:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @themadhatter Night HatterMar 19 02:11
oiaohmDirect Rendering Manager was used before Digital Rights Management was a term.  DaemonFCMar 19 02:20
oiaohmIcetea and Openjdk are two projects I know related.  DaemonFCMar 19 02:22
oiaohmIcedteaMar 19 02:22
oiaohmIcedtea started off as the Redhat branch of OpenjdkMar 19 02:22
DaemonFCwine-gecko is now 40 MBMar 19 02:25
DaemonFCBloatzillaMar 19 02:25
oiaohmRemeber that is not pure.Mar 19 02:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I suspect that despite Gaddafi trying to stick to UN resolution West will concentrate on regime change #duplicityMar 19 02:34
oiaohmThat has wine extentions in there for IE functionality support.  DaemonFCMar 19 02:34
DaemonFCrightMar 19 02:34
*DaemonFC finally bit the bulletMar 19 02:34
DaemonFCand built an actual 2.6.38 kernel with the drm-next stuffMar 19 02:35
DaemonFC:)Mar 19 02:35
DaemonFC2.6.38 isn't good enough if you want to get s3tc past the command stream checkerMar 19 02:35
DaemonFCI knew it wouldn't be but I tried anywayMar 19 02:36
DaemonFCit won't let it work or even show up in glxinfo unless you have drm-nextMar 19 02:36
DaemonFCso it leaves people with wait for 2.6.39 to play most video gamesMar 19 02:37
DaemonFCor build drm-next nowMar 19 02:37
DaemonFCyou can play Sauerbraten without s3tc, but weird things happenMar 19 02:39
DaemonFClike water is blackMar 19 02:39
DaemonFCno water, just, blackMar 19 02:40
DaemonFC:)Mar 19 02:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Which is the most popular English accent? I nominate Brummy.Mar 19 02:46
oiaohmDaemonFC: userspace library solution?Mar 19 02:46
oiaohmDaemonFC: Yes I know it comes with a speed hit.Mar 19 02:46
DaemonFCoh wellMar 19 02:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] BaWü election: @fkarlitschek asks #Mappus #Schmid #Kretschmann #Goll #Urbat about #cloudcomputing http://ur1.ca/3kn9d !fsfe !fs #aycMar 19 02:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] new !StopUBB post "The UBB Deception" film - understanding the issue for ordinary users #cdnpoli !canadaMar 19 02:49
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DaemonFCI just had a Wine mishap :PMar 19 02:53
DaemonFCit did not like KOTORMar 19 02:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ah. clever. so zonked from sleep deprivation that I neglected the URL ... try again :\Mar 19 02:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sagarun/@sagarun] Fedora gets accepted in GSOC 2011, if you are a smart cookie have a look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Summer_coding_ideas_for_2011Mar 19 02:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] new !StopUBB post "The UBB Deception" film - understanding the issue for ordinary users http://ur1.ca/3kn9j #cdnpoli !canadaMar 19 02:54
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oiaohmDaemonFC: i will make something clear.  wine problems I answer in winehq.  No other channel I am in.   So that when I am not in a wine problem answering mood I can go else where and hide.Mar 19 03:00
oiaohmDaemonFC: I don't thing I had told you about that base rule of mine.  Just getting in advance about it.Mar 19 03:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] Rainer Stinner Mdb (FDP) sieht kein Problem wegen der Umstellung im AA zu unfreier Software http://ur1.ca/3knck #bundesleaks !fsMar 19 03:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: abgeordnetenwatch.de: Dr. Rainer Stinner .::. Size~: 57 KBMar 19 03:09
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DaemonFCI'm tiredMar 19 03:12
*DaemonFC got woke up by his landlord threatening to evict the bitch next doorMar 19 03:13
DaemonFCthe histrionic one, not the kabuki ghoul one downstairsMar 19 03:13
DaemonFCI do enjoy mocking her thoughMar 19 03:15
DaemonFCand her dramatic anticsMar 19 03:15
DaemonFCthat guy next door RAPED me!Mar 19 03:15
DaemonFCMe: "Call the police"Mar 19 03:15
DaemonFCLandlord with me on the phone later: "She told me it was the guys birthday so she got in the bathtub with him to shave his back"Mar 19 03:16
*DaemonFC arches an eyebrowMar 19 03:16
schestowitzEwww...Mar 19 03:16
DaemonFClater yet....neighbor: "And he shoved his dick in my mouth and I bit it!"Mar 19 03:16
schestowitzI'm sure she was charmed by a hairy backMar 19 03:17
*DaemonFC looks around wondering where he fits in in all of thisMar 19 03:17
schestowitzDaemonFC: it's a scandal when the word "penis" comes upMar 19 03:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #XBMC media center running on #ARM and Intel-based #MeeGo #Linux devices http://ur1.ca/3kne8 #mediqcentre #freedomMar 19 03:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: XBMC media center running on ARM and Intel-based MeeGo Linux devices .::. Size~: 24.17 KBMar 19 03:17
DaemonFCfew days later, our working on the lawn....guy next door comes up to meMar 19 03:17
schestowitzNot razor and backMar 19 03:18
DaemonFC"Hey man, I don't know what she told you but it was all consensual"Mar 19 03:18
DaemonFC*barf bag on standby*Mar 19 03:18
DaemonFCHe's not bad but she's like 50, and not even a good 50Mar 19 03:18
DaemonFCmore like smoked and drank for the last 30 years 50Mar 19 03:18
schestowitzPickup line 101: "yo gurl, why don't u come shave me back?"Mar 19 03:18
DaemonFCschestowitz: There's people like this in the world and I get to take pillsMar 19 03:19
DaemonFCit's not fairMar 19 03:19
DaemonFCno wonder the pharmacies are always out of LithiumMar 19 03:20
DaemonFCthere must be a few more sane people like me out thereMar 19 03:21
DaemonFCwe're all competing for dope to copeMar 19 03:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Linux Mint 10 #LXDE Released http://ur1.ca/3knf5 flavour of the month. #linuxmintMar 19 03:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux Mint 10 LXDE Released | ZDNet UK .::. Size~: 49.6 KBMar 19 03:21
schestowitzAre you *forced* to take pills?Mar 19 03:21
schestowitzHave some PezMar 19 03:21
schestowitz!google pez remedyMar 19 03:21
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Raiz De Chivo Pez Herbs of Mexico offers Ra?z De Chivo Pez / Ra?z ... | https://herbsofmexico.com/store/bulk-herbs-to-z/q-s/raiz-de-chivo-pezMar 19 03:21
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Larry Malerba, D.O. : Homeopathy: A Time-Tested Treatment for the Flu | http://www.huffingtonpost.com/larry-malerba/homeopathic-remedies-for-the-flu_b_802803.htmlMar 19 03:21
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - John K Stuff: Pez Friends | http://johnkstuff.blogspot.com/2010/11/pez-friends.htmlMar 19 03:21
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - eBay - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EBayMar 19 03:21
DaemonFCtechnically noMar 19 03:21
DaemonFCI'm told I am worse off of themMar 19 03:22
DaemonFCtrying to kill yourself probably countsMar 19 03:22
DaemonFChearing voices, yeahMar 19 03:22
schestowitz"I'm GETTING STRESSED OUT... something get my PEZ dispenser!!! Before I get seizures"Mar 19 03:23
DaemonFCheheMar 19 03:23
*DaemonFC slips some haldol in schestowitz's coffeeMar 19 03:23
DaemonFCthat should get you through the dayMar 19 03:23
schestowitzwhat's that?Mar 19 03:23
schestowitz!google haldolMar 19 03:24
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Haloperidol - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HaloperidolMar 19 03:24
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Haldol (Haloperidol Injection) Drug Information: User Reviews ... | http://www.rxlist.com/haldol-drug.htmMar 19 03:24
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Haldol Facts and Comparisons at Drugs.com | http://www.drugs.com/cdi/haldol.htmlMar 19 03:24
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Haloperidol: MedlinePlus Drug Information | http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/druginfo/meds/a682180.htmlMar 19 03:24
DaemonFCan antipsychoticMar 19 03:24
DaemonFCfairly powerfulMar 19 03:24
schestowitzIs that like legalised narcotic?Mar 19 03:24
DaemonFCmehMar 19 03:24
DaemonFCI slept for about a day after they shoved a needle full of it in my assMar 19 03:24
schestowitzTHe one that's OK cause men in white coats prescribe?Mar 19 03:24
schestowitz24 hours?!Mar 19 03:25
DaemonFCat leastMar 19 03:25
schestowitzI woke up to classic FM today.. but took 1.5 hour snoozing with the radio on before getting upMar 19 03:25
DaemonFCI was involuntarily detainedMar 19 03:25
schestowitzCause my Internet connection sucks right now... now much to hurry up forMar 19 03:25
DaemonFConly a week that timeMar 19 03:25
DaemonFCit's a catch and release mental health systemMar 19 03:26
schestowitz24 hour sleep... won't the body lack food?Mar 19 03:26
DaemonFCThorazine is worseMar 19 03:26
schestowitz!google longest sleep everMar 19 03:26
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - What is the longest someone has ever gone without sleep? - Yahoo ... | http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index%3Fqid%3D20101111013618AA2xYhBMar 19 03:26
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - The National Sleep Research Project - 40 amazing facts about sleep | http://www.abc.net.au/science/sleep/facts.htmMar 19 03:26
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Twitter / Fabian cancellara: Longest sleep ever i have ... | http://twitter.com/f_cancellara/status/22787495253Mar 19 03:26
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Answers.com - How long was the longest sleep ever by human | http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_long_was_the_longest_sleep_ever_by_humanMar 19 03:26
DaemonFCyou're awake and staring at the ceilingMar 19 03:26
DaemonFCthey use antipsychotics to get around the no restraints lawsMar 19 03:27
DaemonFCthis way the doctor doesn't have to renew the order every dayMar 19 03:27
DaemonFC"If he gets out of line, whack him up again"Mar 19 03:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] 07.20 listening to more anti Libyan bollocks from the BBCMar 19 03:29
schestowitz!google daemonfc mental problemMar 19 03:29
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Mono | Techrights | http://techrights.org/category/mono/Mar 19 03:29
schestowitzHeheMar 19 03:29
schestowitzSpeaking of mental problems (Mono)Mar 19 03:30
schestowitzNever name your sw project after diseaseMar 19 03:30
DaemonFCdamonfc-sharp is installing 666 assemblies into monoMar 19 03:30
DaemonFCstand byMar 19 03:30
schestowitz^CMar 19 03:32
schestowitz^CMar 19 03:32
schestowitzfgMar 19 03:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Does FOSS Need a Charismatic Leader? http://ur1.ca/3kngc leaders for the feeble? Pedestal to worship? #freedom #leadership #dependenceMar 19 03:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Finally A Sub $500 #Ubuntu #Linux Based Desktop PC for Senior Citizens! http://ur1.ca/3knhi can't they use a normal desktop? Sure they can.Mar 19 03:32
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux News: Community: Does FOSS Need a Charismatic Leader? .::. Size~: 57.85 KBMar 19 03:32
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Finally A Sub $500 Ubuntu Linux Based Desktop PC for Senior Citizens! - Legit Reviews .::. Size~: 18.58 KBMar 19 03:32
*DaemonFC throws libmono-microsoft-visualbasic8.0-cil at schestowitzMar 19 03:33
DaemonFCB-)Mar 19 03:33
*schestowitz enables energy shieldMar 19 03:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] What’s wrong with Unity & how we can fix it http://ur1.ca/3knhu with a name like "unity" i's hard to criticiseMar 19 03:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: What’s wrong with Unity & how we can fix it .::. Size~: 295.94 KBMar 19 03:34
DaemonFClibkimono4.1-cil - CLI bindings for the KDE Development PlatformMar 19 03:34
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/67494893Mar 19 03:34
TechrightsBot-tr@satipera (satipera)'s status on Saturday, 19-Mar-11 07:31:31 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Harsh first paragraphMar 19 03:34
DaemonFChehMar 19 03:34
schestowitzre http://www.linuxinsider.com/story/Does-FOSS-Need-a-Charismatic-Leader-72081.html?wlc=1300519664Mar 19 03:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux News: Community: Does FOSS Need a Charismatic Leader? .::. Size~: 58.09 KBMar 19 03:34
schestowitzcan be rephrased, Microsoft has convictions and Apple has HubrisMar 19 03:36
*DaemonFC installs Banshee for schestowitzMar 19 03:37
DaemonFCreally, you have no idea WHAT YOU'RE ZOMG MISSING!Mar 19 03:37
schestowitzBLagMar 19 03:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Gtk+ 3.2 Will Let You Run Any Application In A Browser (Remotely Too) http://ur1.ca/3knik the Web is the best platform+APIMar 19 03:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Gtk+ 3.2 Will Let You Run Any Application In A Browser (Remotely Too) ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog .::. Size~: 65.74 KBMar 19 03:39
*DaemonFC installs blagblagblag with bansheebansheebanshee for schestowitzMar 19 03:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "The F15 Alpha experience so far has been great" http://ur1.ca/3kniq #fedora #gnu #linuxMar 19 03:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: It’s not about you «  Larry the Free Software Guy .::. Size~: 55.57 KBMar 19 03:41
*schestowitz pays back 75%Mar 19 03:41
schestowitz[to RIAA]Mar 19 03:41
DaemonFCcan you toss 1% to GNOME and then say Ubuntu is ZOMG STEALING IT!!!Mar 19 03:42
DaemonFC111Mar 19 03:42
DaemonFC:DMar 19 03:42
DaemonFCthe donations to GNOME were only ever intended to chum the watersMar 19 03:43
schestowitzNovell roublemakersMar 19 03:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Google Chrome OS Director Joins Chorus of Praise for HTML5 http://ur1.ca/3knj4 #gnu #linux #googleMar 19 03:44
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Google Chrome OS Director Joins Chorus of Praise for HTML5 | Fast Company .::. Size~: 40.57 KBMar 19 03:44
DaemonFCbut Ubuntu is STEALING!!! from ZOMG GNOME!!!1111Mar 19 03:44
DaemonFConeMar 19 03:44
*schestowitz books a doctor's appointment for DaemonFCMar 19 03:45
DaemonFCnot funnyMar 19 03:46
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/67495793Mar 19 03:46
TechrightsBot-tr@Laurel Russwurm (laurelrusswurm)'s status on Saturday, 19-Mar-11 07:40:36 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz and i thought Micro$oft only had accusations, I didn't realize there had been convictions :PMar 19 03:46
schestowitz!google microsoft convictedMar 19 03:46
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - United States v. Microsoft - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._MicrosoftMar 19 03:46
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - E-019 Court of Appeals: "Guilty!" | http://www.aaxnet.com/editor/edit019.htmlMar 19 03:46
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Microsoft convicted of software piracy - IT News from V3.co.uk | http://www.v3.co.uk/v3-uk/news/1979444/microsoft-convicted-software-piracyMar 19 03:46
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Computer History Development Timeline: Microsoft Perspective ... | http://techrights.org/2010/02/04/microsoft-perspective/Mar 19 03:46
DaemonFCschestowitz Can you make it one of the fancy doctors that speaks English and everything?Mar 19 03:46
schestowitzFunny you mention thisMar 19 03:47
DaemonFCschestowitz Quit spreading ZOMGFUD, they're promoting ZOMGECMASTANDARDS!!!!!!111Mar 19 03:47
DaemonFCB-)Mar 19 03:47
schestowitzYesterday morning I had a chat with a lady who said she was assigned a "European doctor" (meaning continental) who just mumbled through his beard things she could not understand and she didn't like himMar 19 03:48
schestowitzDaemonFC: most ethical companyMar 19 03:48
schestowitzBlackwaterMar 19 03:48
DaemonFCdon't you mean Xe?Mar 19 03:48
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/67496338Mar 19 03:48
TechrightsBot-tr@Gordon Sinclair (thistleweb)'s status on Saturday, 19-Mar-11 07:46:21 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz @openbytes are we likely to be able to record this weekend? !techbytesMar 19 03:49
DaemonFCnew name, same friendly merceneries?Mar 19 03:49
schestowitzI sure hope so (and can).Mar 19 03:49
schestowitzthey renamed twice, IIRCMar 19 03:49
schestowitzBlackwater: better name is redwaterMar 19 03:49
schestowitzWe put the "red" in :"redwater"Mar 19 03:49
schestowitzBlackwater: make friends, travel the world, get paid, kill peopleMar 19 03:50
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/janstedehouder/status/49013200804528128Mar 19 03:50
TechrightsBot-tr@janstedehouder: @schestowitz It is a normal desktop, based on Ubuntu Netbook UI. The keyboard is somewhat different, an improvement IMHO.Mar 19 03:50
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/janstedehouder/status/49013371625943040Mar 19 03:50
TechrightsBot-tr@janstedehouder: @schestowitz Plus, I am in the middle of setting up a project for senior citizens with no prior computer experience.Mar 19 03:51
schestowitzFrom what I can gather, senior citizens find those things offensiveMar 19 03:51
DaemonFChehMar 19 03:51
DaemonFCschestowitz: You know what the great part about getting old is?Mar 19 03:51
DaemonFCI forget. :)Mar 19 03:52
schestowitz!google ce icaza droolMar 19 03:52
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Boycott Novell | Techrights | http://techrights.org/category/uncategorized/Mar 19 03:52
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - 2009 December | Techrights | http://techrights.org/2009/12/Mar 19 03:52
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Les 40 meilleurs logiciels Open Source 2009 | http://www.itrmanager.com/articles/94486/40-meilleurs-logiciels-open-source-2009.htmlMar 19 03:52
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Linux Weekly News | http://lwn.net/2000/0127/bigpage.php3Mar 19 03:52
schestowitz!google ce icaza droolinglyMar 19 03:52
TechrightsBot-trNo Google resultsMar 19 03:52
schestowitz!google de icaza droolinglyMar 19 03:52
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Silverlight: Universal GUI toolkit - Miguel de Icaza | http://tirania.org/blog/archive/2009/Nov-23.htmlMar 19 03:52
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Nov - Miguel de Icaza | http://tirania.org/blog//archive/2009/Nov.htmlMar 19 03:52
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Miguel de Icaza Was Wrong About Silverlight and .NET | Techrights | http://techrights.org/2010/11/01/poor-guidance-with-moonlight/Mar 19 03:52
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - gnu, gnome, and the fsf -- wingolog | http://wingolog.org/archives/2009/12/13/gnu-gnome-and-the-fsfMar 19 03:52
DaemonFC!google de icaza toiletMar 19 03:52
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - GNOME - Uncyclopedia, the content-free encyclopedia | http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/GNOMEMar 19 03:52
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Mono Project Seems to be Dying (Development Virtually Halted ... | http://techrights.org/2010/08/30/mono-development-barriers/Mar 19 03:52
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Banshee, GNOME, & Amazon MP3 | Aaron Bockover | http://abock.org/2010/08/02/banshee-gnome-amazon-mp3Mar 19 03:52
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - New rules designed to exclude independent candiates | http://www.thepanamanews.com/pn/v_14/issue_17/news_07.htmlMar 19 03:52
DaemonFCthere was a funny picture of him wading through a novell office when a toilet overflowed into the hallMar 19 03:53
schestowitzYesMar 19 03:53
schestowitzI found that before you didMar 19 03:53
schestowitzAaron Banshee found itMar 19 03:53
schestowitzAaron Banshee posted it I meanMar 19 03:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 10 Things to Drool Over in #Firefox 4 http://ur1.ca/3kfij yes, in Firefox. Miguel de Icaza "drools" over Silver Lie. http://ur1.ca/hrwcMar 19 03:54
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Silverlight: Universal GUI toolkit - Miguel de Icaza .::. Size~: 19.38 KBMar 19 03:54
schestowitzHe showed his toilet-fuMar 19 03:54
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schestowitzOne thing he has in common with the toilet is that they're both filled with the same stuffMar 19 03:55
DaemonFCI got Banshee set upMar 19 03:55
DaemonFC:PMar 19 03:55
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/67496763Mar 19 03:56
TechrightsBot-tr@satipera (satipera)'s status on Saturday, 19-Mar-11 07:50:59 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Closer than they think.Mar 19 03:56
schestowitzre "can be rephrased, Microsoft has convictions and Apple has Hubris"Mar 19 03:56
gnufreexNetworkWorld is complete joke. I just now seen this http://www.networkworld.com/news/2011/031411-richard-stallman.html?page=1 Mar 19 03:56
DaemonFCI see they still didn't fix that crash on Now Playing bugMar 19 03:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Cell phones are 'Stalin's dream,' says free software movement founder .::. Size~: 126.79 KBMar 19 03:56
DaemonFCthat's only been around for a year nowMar 19 03:56
schestowitzgnufreex: they still push the "Microsoft: we love open source" lieMar 19 03:57
schestowitzSee the textMar 19 03:57
gnufreexYeahMar 19 03:57
schestowitzThey shove it in any other articleMar 19 03:57
gnufreexThey took every RMS' word out of contextMar 19 03:57
gnufreexand put their spin on itMar 19 03:57
schestowitzhttp://www.opensource.org/blog/MicrosoftLovesOpenSource.html">Mar 19 03:57
TechrightsBot-trError processing the URL: HTTP/1.1 404 Not FoundMar 19 03:57
schestowitzWhen I sMar 19 03:57
schestowitzNew rebuttal fro  OSIMar 19 03:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Mozilla Wlready Working on #Firefox 4.0.1 Update http://ur1.ca/3knk1 #webbrowserMar 19 03:57
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Mozilla Wlready Working on Firefox 4.0.1 Update .::. Size~: 112.84 KBMar 19 03:57
schestowitzhttp://www.opensource.org/blog/MicrosoftLovesOpenSource.htmlMar 19 03:58
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft Loves Open Source | Open Source Initiative .::. Size~: 8.56 KBMar 19 03:58
gnufreexAnd see slashdot trollsMar 19 03:58
schestowitzgnufreex: how so?Mar 19 03:58
gnufreexhttp://mobile.slashdot.org/story/11/03/15/0432226/Richard-Stallman-Cell-Phones-Are-Stalins-Dream#commentsMar 19 03:58
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Richard Stallman: Cell Phones Are 'Stalin's Dream' - Slashdot .::. Size~: 170.77 KBMar 19 03:58
schestowitzI know the author is a Microsoft boosterMar 19 03:58
schestowitzAnd RMS agrees to walk into this trapMar 19 03:58
schestowitzBut still..Mar 19 03:58
schestowitzI read page one the other dayMar 19 03:58
gnufreexI think it is orchestrated smear campaignMar 19 03:58
schestowitzAnd it seemed reasonable enough... I've seen worse attacks on RMSMar 19 03:58
gnufreexMake interviewMar 19 03:59
gnufreexthen put it all over the webMar 19 03:59
gnufreexthen send astroturfersMar 19 03:59
schestowitzI think he gave RMS some exposure at the end, so probbaly not too harmfulMar 19 03:59
gnufreexto plug commetsMar 19 03:59
schestowitzAh, that...Mar 19 03:59
gnufreexand then say "everybody hates RMS"Mar 19 03:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] So after all the warnings. Gadhafy's first move is to attack Benghazi. http://www.haaretz.com/news/international/gadhafi-forces-attack-libyaMar 19 03:59
schestowitzGive them food for trollingMar 19 03:59
TechrightsBot-trError processing the URL: HTTP/1.1 404 Not FoundMar 19 03:59
gnufreexSee first few comments on slashdotMar 19 03:59
gnufreexit is pretty much same on every articleMar 19 03:59
gnufreexThey should put entire interview in wholeMar 19 04:00
gnufreexNot take few sentences like thisMar 19 04:00
gnufreexand then spinMar 19 04:00
gnufreexand then few more sentencesMar 19 04:00
gnufreexand then more spinMar 19 04:00
schestowitzJoeMar 19 04:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks/@wikileaks] wikileaks: Книгу об Украине в Wikileaks презентовали в Киеве http://is.gd/ktADij http://bit.ly/fxMivnMar 19 04:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks/@wikileaks] wikileaks: Wadah Khanfar: A historic moment in the Arab world | Video on TED.com - http://ow.ly/46XwA http://bit.ly/dDXwKYMar 19 04:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: «Книгу об Украине в Wikileaks презентовали в Киеве». Смотреть Книгу об Украине в Wikileaks презентовали в Киеве, скачать в 3gp бесплатно .::. Size~: 81.79 KBMar 19 04:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Twitter / WikiLeaks: Книгу об Украине в Wikilea ... .::. Size~: 13.11 KBMar 19 04:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Wadah Khanfar: A historic moment in the Arab world | Video on TED.com .::. Size~: 81.77 KBMar 19 04:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Twitter / WikiLeaks: Wadah Khanfar: A historic  ... .::. Size~: 13.07 KBMar 19 04:01
gnufreexschestowitz: Who's joe?Mar 19 04:02
DaemonFChttp://img836.imageshack.us/img836/3462/snapshot2yh.pngMar 19 04:02
TechrightsBot-trNot a web page! Aborting image/png typeMar 19 04:02
DaemonFCheheMar 19 04:02
gnufreexschestowitz: also, they put "microsoft loves open source", that is what makes obvious that article is a attack on RMS. Like "RMS have no idea how much Microsoft loves open source"  Mar 19 04:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] dozing out... calling it a night because I can't keep my eyes open. Goodnight !identiverseMar 19 04:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @richslxh So after all the warnings. Gadhafy's first move is to attack Benghazi. http://www.haaretz.com/news/international/gadhafi-fo ...Mar 19 04:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Debian CUT, a new rolling release? http://ur1.ca/3knlc #gnu #linuxMar 19 04:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] #Libya and here it is was what you were thinking. Nothing to do but regime change. Civilians meh..Mar 19 04:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @osamak The first peaceful protester who was murdered by the Syrian regime: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-oplM1WfIk #SyriaMar 19 04:07
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gnufreexschestowitz: Btw, did you saw groklaw newspicks?Mar 19 04:08
gnufreex"# Edward J. Naughton bio gets revisedMar 19 04:09
gnufreex[PJ: Edward J. Naughton, the attorney Huffington Post just published claiming Android may be in violation of the GPL has done work for Microsoft. Surprised much?Mar 19 04:09
gnufreexHis article states this at the end: "The views expressed are my own individual views and should not be attributed to any clients." Nevertheless, at least one of them may be delighted.Mar 19 04:09
gnufreexHis bio has changed recently. The link above is to its current state, where you will not find any mention of Microsoft. It's been changed to a "Fortune 50 software company". Here's what used to be on it, still in Google cache, a snapshot taken recently, on March 8]:Mar 19 04:09
gnufreex- Co-counsel defending Microsoft against a putative consumer class action alleging that it had violated wiretapping statutes and common law privacy rights by designing Windows to permit third parties to place cookies on computers. Obtained dismissal of complaint....Mar 19 04:09
gnufreex- Represented Microsoft in several dozen lawsuits against resellers and corporate end-users of counterfeit, infringing, and unlicensed software. - Brown Rudnick bio page for Naughton "Mar 19 04:09
gnufreexThat is the guy that claimed Android is a trapMar 19 04:10
gnufreexwith "GPL virus"Mar 19 04:10
gnufreex(not with that words, but that is what he meant)Mar 19 04:11
gnufreexAnd FMtroll linked it also. Mar 19 04:11
bentkusGPL VIRUSMar 19 04:17
bentkuswill infect us allMar 19 04:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] #Libya government aircraft brought down seen on news. We have seen shoulder launched missiles on news already. Where from?Mar 19 04:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Luciana Fujii Pontello: The GNU/Linux Girl Who Says Cheese! http://ur1.ca/3knol #gnu #linuxMar 19 04:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Giving Away #GNU #Linux Copies Of The New #Unigine Game http://ur1.ca/3kb5tMar 19 04:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] US Warships on the way to the Mediterranean, Spanish air bases being made available for UK/US planes. No going back now Libya.Mar 19 04:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] The real problem is not #Libya it is the western strong military powers. (Who are we going to blow out next)Mar 19 04:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] ICANN Approves the .xxx domain http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-12793606 #http://so-se.xxx/yMar 19 04:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @schestowitz: Luciana @Fujii Pontello: The GNU/Linux Girl Who Says Cheese! http://ur1.ca/3knol #gnu #linuxMar 19 04:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @debian: #Debian has been accepted as a mentoring organization for this year's Google Summer Of Code.Mar 19 04:41
schestowitzGive them food for trollingMar 19 04:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] West Ham vs Tottenham - Matchpack !spurs !football http://ur1.ca/3knr5Mar 19 04:46
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schestowitzgnufreex: http://www.networkworld.com/community/blog/lawyer-behind-android-infringement-claim-has-Mar 19 04:49
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schestowitzhttp://www.itworld.com/open-source/140667/helpful-lawyers-think-google-stole-linux-codeMar 19 04:51
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schestowitzLOLMar 19 04:51
schestowitzMicrosoft  the "most ethical" company in the worldMar 19 04:51
gnufreexschestowitz: How's the house moving went? Did you get back online (other than cell phone)Mar 19 04:51
schestowitzSo ethical it can't help being so niceMar 19 04:51
schestowitzgnufreex: I use mobile network at the momentMar 19 04:51
schestowitzI have spare bandwidthMar 19 04:51
gnufreexWhen you dented "moving houses" I thought you are moving stuff to anouther houseMar 19 04:52
schestowitzIt's good that the 'press' (IDG) was willing to have Microsoft busted...Mar 19 04:52
gnufreexThen I googled "moving houses"Mar 19 04:52
schestowitzBut these are just bloggersMar 19 04:52
schestowitzZonker and Brian from Linux TodayMar 19 04:52
gnufreexAnd I learned it is possible to move entire houseMar 19 04:52
schestowitzThe main sites are still litterted by the noise of Microsoft mafiosos Mar 19 04:53
schestowitzgnufreex: it's possible, but not in this case :-)Mar 19 04:53
schestowitz"moving house" just habitually means  change addreessMar 19 04:54
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schestowitzI'm still on mobile/cellular broadbandMar 19 04:57
schestowitzBT comes TuesdayMar 19 04:57
gnufreexyep. I saw that "Microsoft ethics contest", it is probably just for their evangelist to reference when people ask them why they apologize for criminalsMar 19 05:00
gnufreexA complete jokeMar 19 05:01
gnufreexMaybe they redefined word "ethics"Mar 19 05:01
cubezzz Microsoft NewspeakMar 19 05:01
gnufreexlolMar 19 05:03
gnufreex#speakMar 19 05:03
gnufreexor speak#Mar 19 05:03
schestowitzgnufreex: worth a few millionsMar 19 05:05
gnufreexwhat worth few milions?Mar 19 05:05
schestowitz"we? Unethical? Look at this <points at silly web page with 'award' from unknown, proprietary 'survey'>"Mar 19 05:05
schestowitzNot even a surveyMar 19 05:06
schestowitzJust some random thing with Todd Bishill covering itMar 19 05:06
schestowitz"Hey, Steve, just point here if people call you criminalMar 19 05:06
schestowitzKissinger war criminal? /melaughs but he has nobel peace price :-)Mar 19 05:07
schestowitz*prizeMar 19 05:07
DaemonFCHitler was Time Magazine's man of the yearMar 19 05:07
DaemonFC:)Mar 19 05:07
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cubezzzbut was Orwell right?Mar 19 05:08
cubezzzat least partiallyMar 19 05:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] "People are people so why should it be, you and i should get along so awfully?" !q Depeche ModeMar 19 05:12
DaemonFC"Now I can make all those government mandated upgrades you've all been suing me about!"Mar 19 05:17
DaemonFCB-)Mar 19 05:17
DaemonFCheheMar 19 05:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Biology's 'dark matter' hints at fourth domain of life - http://bit.ly/h3fRDp exciting stuff from @phylogenomicsMar 19 05:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] I'm hooked on listening to the interviews on Pilipinas Got Talent. It's Phillipine with Spanish and English mixed in. http://ur1.ca/3knunMar 19 05:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Oh my God! Porn is officially on the Internet! - http://zd.net/hh4rcs .xxx domain finally coming - but "owned" by one company #monopoliesMar 19 05:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Dutch Court Rules WiFi Hacking Is Now Legal - http://bit.ly/eOrVCD curious #nl #wifiMar 19 05:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @m3tti: #trisquel 4.5 RC is out take a look once again the team made a damn good job. Awesome style and easy to use #gnu #fsf #libreMar 19 05:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Check out What’s Coming Soon in #Firefox 4 - http://bit.ly/h7GO7s the official video #mozillaMar 19 05:22
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/janstedehouder/status/49013621732282368 https://twitter.com/janstedehouder/status/49021625613549568Mar 19 05:28
TechrightsBot-tr@janstedehouder: @schestowitz .. which is a big problem when a government decides to force it's citizens to use online services, including the elderlyMar 19 05:28
TechrightsBot-tr@janstedehouder: @schestowitz Did you read the specs on the website. It *is* a regular desktop. Not like SimPC (in the Netherlands)Mar 19 05:28
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schestowitzOohhh.. http://www.maplin.co.uk/aoc-22-inch-full-hd-1080p-monitor-351770Mar 19 05:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] More on Robert #Halfon, UK Universities, & Libyan Money - http://bit.ly/ghV0gG post on parliamentary privilege et al. (v @DavidAllenGreen)Mar 19 05:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Survey: Android Tablets "Sad state of Open Source" http://is.gd/UyxhdqMar 19 05:36
schestowitzFree delivery, tooMar 19 05:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Using #Twitter to Preserve Minority Languages - http://rww.to/gkUU3x helping sustain virtual linguistic communities #languagesMar 19 05:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ASUS EP101TC tablet drops Windows for Android http://is.gd/dyUzjN #asus #microsoft #windows #gnu #linux #android #mobileMar 19 05:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Peter Biddle of #Intel On the Benefits of #MeeGo and a Compelling Eco-System for Developers - http://rww.to/hEMa0H I hope so, but... #linuxMar 19 05:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Cisco announces Android and Ubuntu-based tablets http://is.gd/lDXnIQ #cisco #ubuntu #android #mobile #gnu #linuxMar 19 05:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Martin Owens: Post-Open Source, Why Web and Mobile aren’t http://goo.gl/MoxufMar 19 05:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Bradley M. Kuhn: Questioning The Original Analysis On The Bionic Debate http://goo.gl/PAHgM !gnu !androidMar 19 05:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Seif Lotfy: Quick update from the World of #Zeitgeist http://goo.gl/UXipuMar 19 05:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @glynmoody: Check out What’s Coming Soon in #Firefox 4 - http://bit.ly/h7GO7s the official video #mozillaMar 19 05:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @glynmoody: Dutch Court Rules WiFi Hacking Is Now Legal - http://bit.ly/eOrVCD curious #nl #wifiMar 19 05:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @JohnFMoore: Restrictions are killing #opengov http://om.ly/BPhea #opendataMar 19 05:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] US Copyright Group Drops Cases Against Alleged Hurt Locker Pirates - http://bit.ly/dFMtwQ but why...? #copyrightMar 19 05:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @thistleweb: ♺ @debian: #Debian has been accepted as a mentoring organization for this year's #Google Summer Of Code. #gsocMar 19 05:49
schestowitzhttp://images.maplin.co.uk/full/A69JU.jpgMar 19 05:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Author Of Ridiculous '#Piracy' Report Defends Conclusions, Ignores Questions About Methodology - http://bit.ly/ghllIR well, of course #auMar 19 05:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @My_Maemo: Ankiqt900 for the N900 - spaced repetition system (SRS) to quickly learn and remember things: http://My-Maemo.com/?p=7137Mar 19 06:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @My_Maemo: Mouhoposter for the N900 - sends photos to IRC: http://My-Maemo.com/?p=7136Mar 19 06:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @My_Maemo: New N900 games at Ovi: Smiles, DiceRoller and Darth Flier: http://My-Maemo.com/?p=7133Mar 19 06:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @My_Maemo: Simple ToDo List homescreen widget for the N900: http://My-Maemo.com/?p=7134Mar 19 06:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @My_Maemo: PhoneStream - streams N900's camera or microphone to desktop PC: http://My-Maemo.com/?p=7135Mar 19 06:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Un apel pentru menținerea neutralității Web-ului și folosirii Standardelor Deschise http://is.gd/dUsgM0 #romania #netneutralityMar 19 06:37
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schestowitzhttp://kamikazow.wordpress.com/2011/03/16/short-review-of-gnome-shell/Mar 19 06:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Good morning, all! Yes, I slept in obscenely.... :DMar 19 06:42
schestowitzhttp://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/monitors-and-projectors-354-c.htmlMar 19 06:43
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schestowitzToo expensive... :-/Mar 19 06:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] “UN decision on #Libya: End game for Qaddafi?” — http://goo.gl/XCq21Mar 19 06:51
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schestowitzjono should see this http://www.shermann.name/2011/03/awesome.htmlMar 19 07:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] #bugzap Just reported [Bug 689051] Blender UI problem http://b1t.it/dlvMar 19 07:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Trying to get this rendered Ogg finished...Mar 19 07:41
sebsebsebschestowitz: Firefox 4 this Tuesday going by versions I tried when testing out  Ubuntu 11.04 alpha 1 and 2 without Unity in virtual machine, I am a bit hmm whe it comes to itMar 19 07:44
sebsebsebTuesday isn't longn owMar 19 07:44
schestowitzhttp://ostatic.com/blog/mageia-moves-forward-releases-alpha-2Mar 19 07:44
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sebsebseband I have been useing Firefox as my main browser for well a very long time 0.8 :)Mar 19 07:44
MinceRgeekingsMar 19 07:44
sebsebsebso of course rather used to the 3 series nowMar 19 07:44
schestowitzsebsebseb: same hreMar 19 07:45
schestowitz0.7 IIRCMar 19 07:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] @lxoliva So, someone wants to use Broadcom wireless to play Nexuiz online with 3D accelerated Nvidia graphics card. What do they do?Mar 19 07:46
schestowitzsebsebseb: yes, Tuesday is near... my connection broke this morningMar 19 07:46
sebsebsebschestowitz: I saw this http://ostatic.com/blog/mandriva-releases-2011-beta-1Mar 19 07:46
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schestowitzBut BT handles it weirdly too, it might be trickier than I hopedMar 19 07:46
sebsebsebwhich mentions Mageia a bit, but not seen anything proper from ostastic about alpha 2Mar 19 07:46
sebsebsebyetMar 19 07:46
sebsebsebso let's see your linkMar 19 07:46
sebsebseblet's go on your linkMar 19 07:46
schestowitzNo face-to-face interactionMar 19 07:46
schestowitz"Mar 19 07:47
schestowitzYour BT equipment will arrive before 6pm on 22/03/11.Mar 19 07:47
schestowitzYou don't need to be in to sign for it. If you aren't in, we'll leave your parcel in a secure location at your property, with a neighbour or take it back to our delivery office. Either way we'll leave you an advice card to let you know where it is, or help you make alternative arrangements for delivery.Mar 19 07:47
schestowitzPlease note: The Royal Mail may make deliveries up to 8pm if there have been unforeseen circumstances which have delayed deliveries being completed by 6pm.Mar 19 07:47
schestowitz"Mar 19 07:47
sebsebsebschestowitz: I told you BT are a bad ISPMar 19 07:47
schestowitzIn what sense?Mar 19 07:47
sebsebsebanyway nice the link you just gave has a screenshot with Libre Office showing in the menu :)Mar 19 07:47
sebsebsebthe Mageia alpha 2 stuff I have seen so far, it has all sucked so farMar 19 07:47
sebsebseb,but this one looks okMar 19 07:47
schestowitz"Mar 19 07:47
schestowitzContacting usMar 19 07:47
schestowitzPlease don't reply to this email.Mar 19 07:47
schestowitzIf your equipment hasn't arrived by 6pm, please call us on 0800 731 0265 if you've ordered BT Total Broadband Option 1, 2, or 3, 0800 800 150 if you've ordered BT Infinity, or 0800 783 2326 if you've ordered BT Total Broadband Anywhere.Mar 19 07:48
schestowitzFor BT Vision equipment enquiries, please call 0800 800 900.Mar 19 07:48
schestowitz"Mar 19 07:48
sebsebsebalso I haven't bothered downloading alpha 2 yetMar 19 07:48
sebsebsebMageia though :)Mar 19 07:48
sebsebsebschestowitz: well issues getting people off BT and connecting them, I guessMar 19 07:48
sebsebsebschestowitz: going by what someone told me a few times online beforeMar 19 07:48
sebsebsebanyway I just noticed, that screenshot on ostastic is using that Mageia Alpha 1 wall paper that someone made hmmMar 19 07:49
schestowitzyes, cause they want to make it hard and they canMar 19 07:49
schestowitzBut I also heard having the line with the BT can make it simpler because it can take a month and be expensive to move, e.g. from Sky to Virgin (via BTW)Mar 19 07:49
schestowitz*via BTMar 19 07:49
sebsebsebYeah this is kind of funny: http://ostatic.com/files/sl_mageia1a2_kde-desktop.jpgMar 19 07:49
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sebsebsebit's apparnetly alpha 2, but it's showing that alpha 1 wall paper someone madeMar 19 07:50
sebsebsebhttp://ostatic.com/files/sl_mageia1a2_kde-desktop.jpg  Mageia :)Mar 19 07:50
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schestowitzWhat repos will it have?Mar 19 07:50
schestowitzAnd will it be mandriva-compatible?Mar 19 07:50
sebsebsebschestowitz: I'll link you to something later on identica, after I have replied again by the way, to do with GPL and Android apparnatly braking itMar 19 07:51
sebsebsebit's a fork of Mandriva soMar 19 07:51
sebsebsebI guess it has pretty much all the Mandriva stuffMar 19 07:51
sebsebsebre branding for alpha 1, and then becomes more of it's own thing after thatMar 19 07:51
sebsebseboh and of course LIbre Office by default, apparnatly Mandriva are staying with Open OfficeMar 19 07:51
oiaohmsebsebseb: I know a odd ish question.  Will mageia have the option of longterm version of the Linux kernel?Mar 19 07:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] !crunchbang statler !linux review by @kevie http://kmacphail.blogspot.com/2011/03/crunchbang-statler-r20110207-review.htmlMar 19 07:54
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schestowitzLinux: lubuntu http://jjinux.blogspot.com/2011/03/linux-lubuntu.htmlMar 19 07:55
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oiaohmSome of the Ubuntu arguments over that they had the right to do what they did are just a laugh.Mar 19 07:56
sebsebseboiaohm: no idea, maybe later on, I think for Mageia 1 they will be pretty stubborn, it's their way and that's that, not really open to outside suggestions, but then after the first stable Mageia 1 release, I think they will be much more open to ouside suggestions :)Mar 19 07:56
sebsebseboiaohm: about what?Mar 19 07:56
sebsebsebUbuntu arguements about what?Mar 19 07:56
schestowitzsebsebseb: look what a mandriva dude has just done http://linsec.ca/blog/2011/03/14/ok-im-committed-now/Mar 19 07:57
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sebsebseboiaohm: yesterday I was educating someone a bit about Linux distro's and opensource/freesoftware in general, that was fun :)Mar 19 07:57
oiaohmhttp://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Apache-Harmony-loses-project-manager-1210343.html  <<Not looking good for HarmonyMar 19 07:59
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schestowitzsebsebseb: try fedora... http://www.linuxdistroreview.com/fedora-14Mar 19 07:59
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sebsebsebschestowitz: and then when Microsoft buys out Redhat for six billlion dollers he will regreat having tattoo!Mar 19 07:59
oiaohmsebsebseb: One of there super poor points is  that a copyright license gave you the right todo anything to a program.Mar 19 07:59
oiaohmsebsebseb: of course trademarks are not covered by copyright.Mar 19 08:00
oiaohmsebsebseb: some copyrights cover patents others don't.Mar 19 08:00
oiaohmsebsebseb: basically legal minefield from hell if you don't watch yourself.Mar 19 08:00
sebsebsebschestowitz: also that's a bit extrame having a tattoo of a Linux distrbuter logoMar 19 08:00
oiaohmWish I could find one book.Mar 19 08:01
oiaohmA guy had all the alter OS of 1995 tattooed on him.  sebsebsebMar 19 08:01
sebsebseboiaohm: yeah they can relisense as propritary softwareMar 19 08:01
oiaohmTechically if you own all the source code of open source program you can relisense it.Mar 19 08:02
sebsebseboiaohm: exactlyMar 19 08:02
sebsebsebwhich is why peopel worry about CanonicalMar 19 08:02
oiaohmThat is the problem with Ubuntu contribiture agreements.Mar 19 08:02
sebsebsebexactly indeedMar 19 08:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Pentagon Papers leaker: 'I was Bradley Manning' | CNN http://is.gd/TAexDn !wlMar 19 08:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] If you want a Debian based distro, build it on Debian. Ubuntu derivatives are generally just half-baked respins (ie remastersys).Mar 19 08:02
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oiaohmCanonical is showing its true colors at long last.Mar 19 08:03
sebsebseboiaohm: anyway I am starting to really feel a bit frustrated at times, when I keep on reading more and more Ubuntu junk online!Mar 19 08:03
oiaohmFrom the start they have been bad.Mar 19 08:03
sebsebsebI mean articles blog enteries and  ignorant comments about things and uhMar 19 08:03
sebsebseboiaohm: also Linux articles blog enteries well quite a lot of them,  I just find junk now, so much of this junk out there.  and loads of it over the years,  loads of opinion stuff and uhMar 19 08:03
sebsebsebI used to like reading this kind of stuff a lot, but not so much anymoreMar 19 08:04
sebsebsebso much drama when it comes to LInuxMar 19 08:04
oiaohmnet_facedjerk in osnews made the mistake of bring up the Linux kernel lack of kernel abi while I was around.Mar 19 08:04
sebsebseboh and schestowitz 's brain is getting cluttered up by all this stuff heh hehMar 19 08:04
oiaohmIts one of the worst topics to try against me.Mar 19 08:04
sebsebsebschestowitz wasn't it nice, a break away from Linux aritcle/blog entry and all that land?Mar 19 08:05
schestowitzNot much was missedMar 19 08:05
schestowitzI read through some of it ATMMar 19 08:05
schestowitze.g. http://www.junauza.com/2011/03/why-linux-desktop-is-still-not-winning.htmlMar 19 08:05
oiaohmIe Linux userspace interface api/abi is 100 percent dependable and you can write drivers using it.Mar 19 08:05
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sebsebsebschestowitz: I am trying to catch up a bit on Linux stuff right now myself,  problem is, once catched up it's the next day, and well much more of this stuffMar 19 08:05
sebsebsebInternet really is dailyMar 19 08:05
oiaohmTo be correct we have a lot to blame Linux distributions unwillingness to work with each other for.Mar 19 08:07
sebsebsebI read this one last night and quite like the first part of it: http://maketecheasier.com/fedora-15-vs-ubuntu-natty-narwhal-the-battle-for-your-next-desktop/2011/03/17Mar 19 08:07
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sebsebsebI guess in a way yeah we are getting welcome change to Linux distro's, now most of them won't look pretty much the same anymoreMar 19 08:08
sebsebsebwhen using GnomeMar 19 08:08
oiaohmReally many things hare happening.Mar 19 08:08
sebsebsebschestowitz: ^Mar 19 08:08
oiaohmdri2 techically should allow 2 different distributions with graphics to be on the same kernel.  ie one X11/Wayland server windowed inside the other.Mar 19 08:09
sebsebsebsome will use Gnome 2 still, and their changes for example, others will use Gnome Shell, and Ubuntu will use Unity, so yeah Gnome  really won't be that similar in the next lot of new versions of distro'sMar 19 08:09
oiaohmAlso this will bring virtual machines with proper working opengl support as well.Mar 19 08:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] q "They say patriotism is the last refuge to which the scoundrel clings..." ~ Bob Dylan, "Sweetheart Like You" from "Infidels"Mar 19 08:09
oiaohmGnome I am hoping with the talks I have had with particular people in there.  That there relationship with freedesktop will get back on track.Mar 19 08:09
oiaohmAnd we hopefully will see a growth in standards.Mar 19 08:10
sebsebsebalso wow how did elementryos do it?  shut down and log out and lock screen in the shut down menu where meant to be in the system menu, but also Canonica's Gnome 2 patches on top right?  only way I could do it in Ubuntu was removing the junk from the top right as far as I know, to get back in system menu http://www.techdrivein.com/2011/03/elementary-os-beta-reviewed-very.htmlMar 19 08:10
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sebsebsebschestowitz: elementryos it seems could be a good Ubuntu based distro, apparnatly at the moment their isn't really a public try ISO for it thoughMar 19 08:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] S3TC For Mesa Is Talked About Some More: Discussions surrounding S3TC Texture Compression support for mainline M... http://bit.ly/iemRPmMar 19 08:11
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sebsebseboiaohm: a lot of omgubuntu people are anti Gnome it seems, going by comments on that siteMar 19 08:11
sebsebseboiaohm: they seem to think it's really hard to get Gnome to accept changes from Ubuntu/CanonicalMar 19 08:12
oiaohmThere has been a major issue between freedesktop and gnome.Mar 19 08:12
oiaohmIts based on a myth.Mar 19 08:12
sebsebseband there's been loads of junk on the web quite recently about Gnome KDE and FreeDesktop uhMar 19 08:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] is it me or do pictures of #Tory conferences look like an audience made up from a day out for residents of an old folks home?Mar 19 08:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] possibly an audience of people with short term memory issues and an ageing bullshit filter that doesn't quite register when they hear itMar 19 08:12
sebsebseband Unity above yeahMar 19 08:13
oiaohmThe myth is a freedesktop standard gnome reject ceases to be a standard.  sebsebsebMar 19 08:13
sebsebseband UbuntuMar 19 08:13
sebsebseball  of those I meanMar 19 08:13
oiaohmWhat is not in fact the case.Mar 19 08:13
sebsebsebto much ignornace surrouding Ubuntu these days for my likeingMar 19 08:13
sebsebseband most of the new users will be pretty ignorant for a long time as well, it seemsMar 19 08:13
oiaohmReally the Ubuntu Gnome fight opened me a window to talk to particularly people in gnome would not talk to me about freedesktop otherwise.Mar 19 08:14
sebsebsebalso people who think they woudn't be using Desktop Linux if it wasn't for Ubuntu, heh heh,  rubbish, if Ubuntu hadn't come along, Mandriva or OpenSuse or something would have been the most popular todayMar 19 08:14
oiaohmSo I don't see it as 100 percent bad.Mar 19 08:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] people who forgot what happened last week do tend to accept what you've spun several times as new because it's new to themMar 19 08:14
sebsebsebor Fedora evenMar 19 08:14
oiaohmReally Cannanical might hate what I have planned.Mar 19 08:14
sebsebseboiaohm: oh?Mar 19 08:15
oiaohmIf I can get Gnome and KDE proper working with freedesktop.  The standard production can go up by a factor of 20.Mar 19 08:15
oiaohmAnd that will mean many times more work for Unity.Mar 19 08:15
sebsebsebmaybe PC Linux OS would have been the most popular even, if Ubuntu hadn't come alongMar 19 08:16
oiaohmUbuntu will fadeMar 19 08:16
sebsebseboiaohm: something else there has been stuff recently about how like 61% or whatever of distro's are based on Debian some howMar 19 08:16
sebsebsebin a way I don't like Debian that much now even, not 100% fairly though, because of how it helps Ubuntu big timeMar 19 08:16
oiaohmReally lot of the Debian camp hate Ubuntu.Mar 19 08:17
amarsh04posted recently to groklaw.net: http://agimo.govspace.gov.au/whole-of-government-common-operating-environment-discussion-paper/Mar 19 08:17
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sebsebseband then the whole thing about, people thinking distro's based on Ubuntu or Debian are so great, because well  Ubuntu was based on Debian, know what I mean?Mar 19 08:17
oiaohmYou have to remember the founder of Ubuntu lost is maintainership location in debian due to making packages unstable.Mar 19 08:18
sebsebseboiaohm: well yeah, but here's a interesting one on this subject: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/03/ubuntus-cto-reveals-dex-an-effort-to-close-the-gap-with-debian/Mar 19 08:18
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sebsebseboiaohm: Did he, I don't know much about Mark Shuttleworth and when he used to be a Debian developer, if anything really, other than that he was one.Mar 19 08:19
sebsebseboiaohm: also this is interesting: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/03/debian-cut-a-new-rolling-release/Mar 19 08:19
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sebsebsebhttp://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/03/debian-cut-a-new-rolling-release/Mar 19 08:19
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schestowitzYes, seeen that todayMar 19 08:19
sebsebsebhttp://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/03/ubuntus-cto-reveals-dex-an-effort-to-close-the-gap-with-debian/Mar 19 08:20
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sebsebsebalso there was a ask Matt Zimmerman questions on IRC session yesterday, I was in it :DMar 19 08:20
oiaohmFunny.Mar 19 08:20
sebsebseboiaohm: funny ?Mar 19 08:21
oiaohmThe biggest problem with debian is a failure to work with upstream with sending patches.Mar 19 08:21
oiaohmyet Ubuntu is going out of there way to work with them.Mar 19 08:21
sebsebsebuh well Ubuntu/Canonical call Debian upstream a lot of the time!Mar 19 08:21
sebsebsebapparantly Debian is really great as well, and blah de blah, according to quite a lot of the Ubuntu and Canonical peopleMar 19 08:22
oiaohmHistory is repeating.Mar 19 08:22
oiaohmThe problem in Ubuntu is there maintainers are mostly novices.Mar 19 08:23
oiaohmSo Debian would look like upstream to them.Mar 19 08:23
sebsebsebmaintainers, packagers you mean or?Mar 19 08:23
oiaohmNot the source where it started from.Mar 19 08:23
oiaohmpackage maintainers sebsebsebMar 19 08:24
sebsebsebhmm okMar 19 08:24
sebsebseboh okMar 19 08:24
oiaohmSo its most likely wise for them to aim to work better with debian upstream.Mar 19 08:24
oiaohmNow of course there can be a downside to this.Mar 19 08:24
oiaohmwhat stops their package maintainers getting more skilled and just moving up stream.  sebsebsebMar 19 08:25
oiaohmslowly eating away there means to be different.Mar 19 08:25
sebsebsebuh the fanboyism and fanboygirlism, oh Ubuntu is so amazing, it's going to make free software go main strame? :DMar 19 08:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @psquid: Hm, xfce is rather nice. Has much of I what I like about GNOME, but is much lighter. :)Mar 19 08:26
sebsebseboiaohm: I used to want it to go main strame, now I think I am quite happy with most computer users being on Windows at the moment really.Mar 19 08:26
sebsebseboiaohm: untill Desktop Linux distro's as a whole are a bit more improved, but well that's coming,  Gnome 3,  btrfs and so on, you knowMar 19 08:26
sebsebsebthen when Desktop Linux as a whole is more improved by quite a bitMar 19 08:27
sebsebseboh yes that could be something more than one Linux distro going main streameMar 19 08:27
oiaohmReally freedombox will most likely be more important to home users.Mar 19 08:27
sebsebsebfreedombox ?Mar 19 08:27
oiaohmfreedombox goal is is to build a OS for a home server that is simple to maintain.  sebsebsebMar 19 08:28
sebsebsebI don't want this situation when it comes to most popular Desktop OS's.  1.  Windows 2. Mac OS X 3.  Ubuntu 4. other Linux distro's  5. BSD  6. other OS'sMar 19 08:28
oiaohmgtk 3.2 support html5 as a output.Mar 19 08:28
oiaohmSo a freedombox in theory could serve up gimp......Mar 19 08:29
sebsebsebaltough saying that, I seemed to want that before, when I was a ignorant Ubuntu fan boy!Mar 19 08:29
sebsebsebignorant and slightly imatture or childish at times Ubuntu fan boyMar 19 08:29
oiaohmBesides stuff like ipadsMar 19 08:29
oiaohmUbuntu will never run there.Mar 19 08:29
oiaohmYet html5 will.Mar 19 08:29
sebsebsebwell I guess I was a fan boy really, because of certain things I didMar 19 08:30
oiaohmNote freedombox project is a upstream project under debian.Mar 19 08:30
sebsebsebof course back then Ubuntu was reasonably good, but still hmmMar 19 08:30
oiaohmsebsebseb: I had gone threw my O that is cool stage by the time ubuntu turned up.Mar 19 08:30
sebsebseboiaohm: your oh what is cool stage, when it came to what?Mar 19 08:31
sebsebsebyour oh that is cool stage, with what?Mar 19 08:31
oiaohmmy history.  bsd.  debian redhat mandrake.     Liked mandrake hated particular applications.  So I insanely made mandrake-redhat hybrid in 1998Mar 19 08:31
sebsebseboh?Mar 19 08:32
oiaohmPlease note no library standards.Mar 19 08:32
oiaohmSo gtk qt and everything else did not work well.Mar 19 08:32
oiaohmAfter that hybrid I got my value for stablity.Mar 19 08:32
oiaohmOver features.Mar 19 08:32
oiaohmAnd went back to debian.Mar 19 08:33
oiaohmOf course I still liked trying other distributions os been debian openvz since.Mar 19 08:33
oiaohmYes even that I am a debian user I still hate particular things they do because it ruins my stablity.Mar 19 08:34
sebsebseboh okMar 19 08:34
oiaohmOf course I could always bit the bulit and build from scrach.Mar 19 08:34
oiaohmAs I do for custom items.Mar 19 08:34
oiaohmBut for my desktop machine no way am I putting myself threw that pain.Mar 19 08:35
oiaohmYes I know I am a dino to a lot of the new kids with over 20 years of posix system usage.Mar 19 08:36
sebsebseboiaohm: well sometimes older stuff is better really,  the old GDM and for many of us Grub 0.97 for exampleMar 19 08:37
sebsebsebwell apparnatly distro patched Grub 0.97 the old Grub you knowMar 19 08:37
sebsebsebdistro's aboveMar 19 08:37
sebsebseboiaohm: also Gnome 2 wellMar 19 08:37
sebsebsebstill need to try out the latest Gnome 3 some how really, but uhmmMar 19 08:37
sebsebsebGnome ShellMar 19 08:37
sebsebseb,but uhmmMar 19 08:37
sebsebseboiaohm: I really like Gnome 2 now,  used as my main one since 2004Mar 19 08:37
oiaohmThe thing is I am also old enough that kde 4.0 did not burn me because I read before I tried.Mar 19 08:37
sebsebsebok so in recent versions of Gnome 2 there are little end user noticeable features that I don't like that much, like GDM 2 and Mar 19 08:38
sebsebsebthe new icons in system menu, well for shut down I think that's a jokeMar 19 08:38
oiaohmI have always like KDE.Mar 19 08:38
sebsebseb,but eh I am not using GDM 2 in this distro anyway :)Mar 19 08:38
oiaohmI don't see that changing.Mar 19 08:38
oiaohmKDE presumes the user will want to play with it.Mar 19 08:38
sebsebseband the icons uhmm well  used to those icons now, and I could use another  theme, without them, but nahMar 19 08:38
sebsebseboiaohm: ,but anyway yeah overall really like Gnome 2 still :)Mar 19 08:38
sebsebsebso I think I will be using it at times, for quite  a while yet, even after Gnome 3 comes outMar 19 08:39
oiaohmI liked Gnome 1Mar 19 08:39
oiaohmGnome 2 started becoming restrictive in options.Mar 19 08:39
sebsebsebplus the first version of Gnome 3, doesn't have the weather feature and such yet,  but Gnome 3.2 probably willMar 19 08:39
oiaohmGnome 3 looks like its even more restricted in options.Mar 19 08:39
sebsebsebas for Gnome 1 I haven't even tried it, would be interesting to, what could I download to put in a vm to try it?Mar 19 08:39
sebsebsebalso I know some people had issues going from Gnome 1 to Gnome 2Mar 19 08:39
sebsebseband KDE 3 well, I should vm something for that really some time again :DMar 19 08:40
sebsebseboiaohm: anyway I remember reading basically some article  or blog post, that basically said,  when we get something that is properly stable and works wellMar 19 08:41
sebsebsebsomeone in Linux land, decides its time to make something newMar 19 08:41
sebsebsebor maybe that was a comment to something, but anyway good point thatMar 19 08:41
oiaohmAnd that is a myth.Mar 19 08:41
sebsebsebuh?Mar 19 08:41
sebsebsebwhat?Mar 19 08:41
oiaohmThe development is more like this.Mar 19 08:41
oiaohmDeveloper make a system to the max limits of the under libaries.Mar 19 08:42
oiaohmWith a stack hacks fixing up library errors.Mar 19 08:42
oiaohmAnd the developer eventionally go O crap.  Cannot fix all these stablity issues.Mar 19 08:42
oiaohmIf I redo these buggy libraries.Mar 19 08:42
oiaohmAt that point users get really upset.Mar 19 08:42
oiaohmBecause everything above those libraries breaks.Mar 19 08:43
oiaohmsebsebseb: IE developers don't change stuff if its not borked due to some reason.Mar 19 08:43
sebsebseboiaohm: we had this kind of convo about KDE 3Mar 19 08:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] Groklaw: Court Rejects Hotz's Motion 4 Protective Order & Lays Down the Rules; & March 10th Hearing Transcript as text: http://bit.ly/gAKKv0Mar 19 08:44
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sebsebseboiaohm: basically  for end users KDE 3 works great for a lot of them still, but under the hood,  issues here and there or whateverMar 19 08:44
oiaohmIts also why kernel changed from 2.2 to 2.4 to 2.6Mar 19 08:44
sebsebseboh okMar 19 08:45
oiaohmOk 2.0 2.2 2.4 2.6Mar 19 08:45
oiaohmBasically its a repeating patten of development that is the price of progress.Mar 19 08:45
oiaohmMost people don't know that 2.6 is the longest Linux has gone ever without a version change.Mar 19 08:45
oiaohmLinux kernel.Mar 19 08:45
sebsebsebohMar 19 08:46
sebsebseboiaohm: well now the Linux kernel is pretty great or whatever, it's just they add more features/bloat to it nowMar 19 08:47
sebsebsebLinus said/says the kernel is bloatedMar 19 08:47
oiaohmIt took them 4 attempts to get to this point. sebsebsebMar 19 08:47
sebsebsebuh  there was  a Linux 1.0 relesae or ?Mar 19 08:48
sebsebseb0  series or what?Mar 19 08:48
oiaohmThere is a 0.x and a 1.0 1.1 1.2 1.3Mar 19 08:48
oiaohmWhat I try to disrguard.Mar 19 08:48
oiaohmEach one was not compadible with each other at all.Mar 19 08:49
oiaohmThen you look at KDE.  Desktop is far more complex really than kernel to get right.Mar 19 08:50
oiaohmAnd KDE has not been through as many attempts as the kernel yet.Mar 19 08:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @rsandu: ASUS EP101TC tablet drops Windows for Android http://is.gd/dyUzjN #asus #microsoft #windows #gnu #linux #android #mobileMar 19 08:51
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schestowitzGroklaw spends many cycles on SCOny nowMar 19 08:55
schestowitzI wish it had chosen to look at Apple (and Microsoft)Mar 19 08:55
oiaohmSCO just refused to die.Mar 19 08:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @themadhatter I've been told Evolution can be easily removed, I thought it was glued into GnomeMar 19 08:56
sebsebseboiaohm: well that was nice the person IMar 19 08:58
sebsebsebwas educating yesterday, just came on to thank me :)Mar 19 08:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] isn't "game changer" just a "brown paper bag" app which lets you pay money to the officials, which then pings their handset on the pitch?Mar 19 08:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @lobbywatcher: Lib. MP Carolyn Bennett was lobbied by Canada's Research-Based Pharmaceutical Companies on Feb. 11 http://bit.ly/h5w5mNMar 19 08:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @lobbywatcher: Lib. MP Navdeep Bains was lobbied by Canadian Generic Pharmaceutical Association on Feb. 11 http://bit.ly/glySatMar 19 08:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @lobbywatcher: Lib. MP Gerry Byrne was lobbied by Bell Canada on Feb. 15 http://bit.ly/eHIC9VMar 19 09:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @lobbywatcher: NDP MP Charlie Angus was lobbied by Bell Canada on Feb. 08 http://bit.ly/fc0Vy8Mar 19 09:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @lobbywatcher: CPC MP Dean Del Mastro was lobbied by Canadian Association of Broadcasters on Feb. 03 http://bit.ly/eTSxo3Mar 19 09:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @lobbywatcher: CPC MP Ed Fast was lobbied by Canadian Association of Broadcasters on Feb. 28 http://bit.ly/gEYgWGMar 19 09:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @themadhatter I've never tried it, I too assumed it was glued in, but apparently it can be removed leaving Gnome intact and functionalMar 19 09:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @lobbywatcher: CPC MP Richard Harris was lobbied by Suncor Energy Inc. on Feb. 09 http://bit.ly/huJMxpMar 19 09:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @lobbywatcher: Lib. MP Marlene Jennings was lobbied by Canada's Research-Based Pharmaceutical Companies on Feb. 17 http://bit.ly/hXRKuRMar 19 09:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @lobbywatcher: CPC MP Colin Mayes was lobbied by Suncor Energy Inc. on Feb. 09 http://bit.ly/icD4uKMar 19 09:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @lobbywatcher: Lib. MP Derek Lee was lobbied by Bell Canada on Feb. 15 http://bit.ly/fRR6aIMar 19 09:01
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oiaohmsebsebseb: Really Linux kernel world is focused on code cleaning.Mar 19 09:02
oiaohmsebsebseb: 2.6.39 will see another bit of the RT tree merged.Mar 19 09:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @lobbywatcher: Lib. MP Shawn Murphy was lobbied by Bell Canada on Feb. 15 http://bit.ly/fxjLVDMar 19 09:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @lobbywatcher: Lib. MP Bob Rae was lobbied by Canadian Generic Pharmaceutical Association on Feb. 11 http://bit.ly/gv9sShMar 19 09:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @lobbywatcher: Lib. MP Mario Silva was lobbied by Canadian Generic Pharmaceutical Association on Feb. 11 http://bit.ly/gKhbBuMar 19 09:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @lobbywatcher: Lib. MP Geoff Regan was lobbied by Bell Canada on Feb. 15 http://bit.ly/eGA8hWMar 19 09:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @lobbywatcher: CPC MP Dave Van Kesteren was lobbied by Bell Canada on Feb. 10 http://bit.ly/dNsUKnMar 19 09:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @lobbywatcher: CPC MP John Weston was lobbied by Suncor Energy Inc. on Feb. 09 http://bit.ly/i5rMCBMar 19 09:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @lobbywatcher: CPC MP Mike Wallace was lobbied by Bell Canada on Feb. 10 http://bit.ly/eAL9OEMar 19 09:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] So many Ubuntu derivatives, and the first thing that goes on the website is the donate button. Respins are an easy cash cow it seems.Mar 19 09:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @lobbywatcher: Senator Dennis Dawson was lobbied by Bell Canada on Feb. 15 http://bit.ly/egn9EaMar 19 09:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @themadhatter just googling https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Evolution as I said, I heard it somewhere, I've not triedMar 19 09:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @themadhatter I've found a few references to gnome-core instead of the regular gnome, which is a PITA, and not easyMar 19 09:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @p2pnet: Anonymous ‘dissidents’ spill the beans - says Gawker http://www.p2pnet.net/story/49806Mar 19 09:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @p2pnet: WiFi hacking legal in Holland. Court decision http://www.p2pnet.net/story/49807Mar 19 09:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Jordi's English Bloc » gbrainy 1.63 http://ping.fm/8FQYPMar 19 09:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @glynmoody: US Copyright Group Drops Cases Against Alleged Hurt Locker Pirates - http://bit.ly/dFMtwQ but why...? #copyrightMar 19 09:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @glynmoody: Using #Twitter to Preserve Minority Languages - http://rww.to/gkUU3x helping sustain virtual linguistic communities #languagesMar 19 09:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @glynmoody: Check out What’s Coming Soon in #Firefox 4 - http://bit.ly/h7GO7s the official video #mozillaMar 19 09:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Evolution does bring up a worrying aspect of the Novell / Microsoft fiasco, might be an idea to untangle it from Gnome nowMar 19 09:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @debian: #Debian has been accepted as a mentoring organization for this year's Google Summer Of Code. Prepare your project ideas and ....Mar 19 09:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @schestowitz: Giving Away #GNU #Linux Copies Of The New #Unigine Game http://ur1.ca/3kb5tMar 19 09:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @schestowitz: #Mozilla Wlready Working on #Firefox 4.0.1 Update http://ur1.ca/3knk1 #webbrowserMar 19 09:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @schestowitz: 10 Things to Drool Over in #Firefox 4 http://ur1.ca/3kfij yes in Firefox. Icaza "drools" over Silver Lie. http://ur1.ca/hrwcMar 19 09:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @schestowitz: "The F15 Alpha experience so far has been great" http://ur1.ca/3kniq #fedora #gnu #linuxMar 19 09:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @schestowitz: Gtk+ 3.2 Will Let You Run Any Application In A Browser (Remotely Too) http://ur1.ca/3knik the Web is the best platform+APIMar 19 09:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @schestowitz: What’s wrong with Unity & how we can fix it http://ur1.ca/3knhu with a name like "unity" i's hard to criticiseMar 19 09:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @schestowitz: #XBMC media center running on #ARM and Intel-based #MeeGo #Linux devices http://ur1.ca/3kne8 #mediqcentre #freedomMar 19 09:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] no app should be so tightly integrated into an environment that it can't be removed / replacedMar 19 09:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] On Low-End GPUs, Nouveau Speeds Past The NVIDIA Driver: While the Linux 2.6.38 kernel has been out for less than... http://bit.ly/i4wFq2Mar 19 09:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] #Mozilla #Drumbeat Hackfest in !Beijing !China, March 23–25. More info, EN: http://is.gd/bXgVe9 CN: http://is.gd/twTWtIMar 19 09:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] ReclaimNaija is #Nigeria's Election Incident Reporting system. First time I've heard of that http://ping.fm/S0Wr0Mar 19 09:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Music Industry Destroys Another Powerful Free Download Tool | TorrentFreak http://ow.ly/4hO7pMar 19 09:19
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schestowitzsebsebseb: education what on...?Mar 19 09:22
sebsebsebschestowitz: was telling someone about distro's and upstreams and Gnome and Ubuntu and Canonical and suchMar 19 09:23
sebsebsebyesterdayMar 19 09:23
schestowitzah, pkMar 19 09:24
schestowitz*okMar 19 09:24
schestowitzhm... 17 people in boycottnovell-socialMar 19 09:25
schestowitzNever had this many there, surely not on SaturdayMar 19 09:25
schestowitzI remember why we started that channelMar 19 09:25
schestowitzbalzac went and and on off topicMar 19 09:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @lobbywatcher: Lib. MP Bryon Wilfert was lobbied by Bell Canada on Feb. 15 http://bit.ly/h5DsKtMar 19 09:26
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schestowitzcubezzz: do you want to join channel #boycottnovell-social ?Mar 19 09:26
sebsebsebschestowitz: no less than that, since you have two names there, plus there's the botMar 19 09:26
sebsebsebalso oiaohm is really an alien, not a personMar 19 09:26
sebsebseb:DMar 19 09:27
sebsebsebschestowitz: oh yeah and you got your log nickMar 19 09:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @lobbywatcher: CPC MP Ed Fast was lobbied by CANADIAN RECORDING INDUSTRY ASSOCIATION (CRIA) on Feb. 15 http://bit.ly/ejxO9J #CRIAMar 19 09:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @lobbywatcher: CPC MP Ed Fast was lobbied by Corus Entertainment Inc. on Feb. 28 http://bit.ly/fdY43zMar 19 09:27
sebsebsebyou have three names in there like in hereMar 19 09:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] Of course @migueldeicaza is a member of both the Gnome and Evolution projects.Mar 19 09:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @lobbywatcher: NDP MP Claude Gravelle was lobbied by CANADIAN VEHICLE MANUFACTURERS' ASSOCIATION on Mar. 15 http://bit.ly/fLDnndMar 19 09:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @lobbywatcher: NDP MP Claude Gravelle was lobbied by Ford Motor Company of Canada, Ltd. on Feb. 15 http://bit.ly/e0ry4pMar 19 09:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @lobbywatcher: Bloc MP Michel Guimond was lobbied by Toyota Canada Inc. on Feb. 28 http://bit.ly/fxL4eXMar 19 09:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @lobbywatcher: Bloc MP Michel Guimond was lobbied by Toyota Canada Inc. on Jan. 31 http://bit.ly/efqpIvMar 19 09:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @doctorow: RT @Eaterofsun: Japan's record of nuclear cover-ups and accidents http://bit.ly/eNtjDgMar 19 09:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @dduane: What we should fear: #CATS WITH THUMBS. (alarming video here) http://bit.ly/ghBUen #theyrewatchingus :) #catcabalMar 19 09:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: What we must fear: …Cats with thumbs. | Diane Duane's weblog: "Out of Ambit" .::. Size~: 54.37 KBMar 19 09:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @Chevenga: #Chevenga #blogpost : Talking about doing it with Blue Coyote. http://bit.ly/eHzRml #weblit #amwritingMar 19 09:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @Ont_Ombudsman: Do u have a complaint about #G20 police misconduct? The OIPRD wants to hear from u: http://bit.ly/hzsFyt.Mar 19 09:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Virgin Mobile launches new, free music app in !Android Market | Android Central http://ping.fm/jj6ehMar 19 09:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Mexico: Telecom and Entertainment Industries Testify on ACTA - http://bit.ly/hr15Bq good summary of the battle for the digital soul thereMar 19 09:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] Something interesting that I got onto earlier this week, because of #Identica about a new type of #Pepsi bottle: http://ur1.ca/3jpe8Mar 19 09:39
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schestowitzhttp://www.digitimes.com/news/a20110316PD215.htmlMar 19 09:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Tell the EPA: Protect us from toxic mercury, arsenic, lead and other air pollution. http://bit.ly/gx4wESMar 19 09:41
schestowitzback to Linux thenMar 19 09:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @KarlSchroeder: Lost in all the bad news is the good news that the Messenger spacecraft has successfully gone into orbit around MercuryMar 19 09:44
schestowitzhttp://mrpogson.com/2011/03/18/first-day-of-actionsintentions-under-un-resolution/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurofighter_TyphoonMar 19 09:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @themadhatter the integration with all the calendar / notes / todo / email etc is a great asset, I can see why they don't want to remove itMar 19 09:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @themadhatter it does seem very risky to be dependent on it though, even setting aside the Novell political side, ANY appMar 19 09:49
schestowitzLOL http://www.zdnet.com/blog/apple/apple-reports-problems-with-usb-hubs-causing-system-instability/9743Mar 19 09:50
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schestowitzMinceR: ^^Mar 19 09:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] I've done it! It's gorgeous!!!Mar 19 09:51
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schestowitzhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsuite "NetSuite was originally named NetLedger by its founders, Larry Ellison and one of his early employees, Evan Goldberg."Mar 19 09:52
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MinceRlolMar 19 09:52
schestowitzEllison?!Mar 19 09:52
schestowitzThe fanbois will blame USBMar 19 09:52
schestowitzAnd pray for firwire comebackMar 19 09:52
schestowitz*fireMar 19 09:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] I fucking love Blender! Beats every commercial 3D modeller I know. If even I can use it..... :DMar 19 09:52
schestowitz"Die in a firewire!"Mar 19 09:52
schestowitz"NetSuite's major shareholder has been and continues to be Ellison, who financed the company's creation in late 1998 to develop on-demand ERP and CRM services. The ties between NetSuite and Oracle run deep: Ellison and his private investment group, Tako Ventures, currently control 74 percent of the company, and NetSuite's two top executives, CEO Zach Nelson and CTO/Chairman Evan Goldberg, spent time in Oracle's executive ranks."Mar 19 09:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] Good !Mageia 1 Alpha 2 review: http://ostatic.com/blog/mageia-moves-forward-releases-alpha-2 Hmm at wallpaper in screenshots!Mar 19 09:56
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MinceRactually ieee1394 seems like a good ideaMar 19 09:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Ethics of Intellectual Monopolies: the Video - http://bit.ly/i0m2iO my keynote at #fscons last year #copyright #patentsMar 19 10:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] @zotz indeedMar 19 10:12
schestowitzIt's quite clear that the mainstream hardly covers "Linux" anymoreMar 19 10:20
schestowitzIt covers Android ans dtuffMar 19 10:20
schestowitz*StuffMar 19 10:20
schestowitzMoreover, many news sites die and PR is taking over themMar 19 10:20
schestowitzThis is sad...Mar 19 10:20
schestowitzNews: brought to your by the covered companiesMar 19 10:21
schestowitzhttp://www.linuxinsider.com/rsstory/72005.htmlMar 19 10:22
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Welcome to LinuxInsider .::. Size~: 2.83 KBMar 19 10:22
schestowitzlike any toy, get oddly excited for a day, the following day it's in the pile of old toysMar 19 10:22
schestowitzA lot of people realise it's an accessoryMar 19 10:22
schestowitzWhen they want to get work done they use a computerMar 19 10:22
schestowitzNot a $500 gadgetMar 19 10:23
schestowitzgnufreex: http://www.linuxinsider.com/rsstory/72012.htmlMar 19 10:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Welcome to LinuxInsider .::. Size~: 2.84 KBMar 19 10:23
schestowitzThis gave the FUD group some foodMar 19 10:23
schestowitzO'GarOnionMar 19 10:23
gnufreexLol, he didn't stop at that, he later claimed Red Hat feeds patent trolls.Mar 19 10:24
amarsh04back in a few, rebooting into new kernelMar 19 10:24
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gnufreexAnd since they setled patent suit, the support patents, say onion.Mar 19 10:24
gnufreexCrazy logicMar 19 10:25
gnufreexThat is like saying MSFT supports GPL because they had to comply with it when they wanted to run Linux in HyperVMar 19 10:25
schestowitzgnufreex: O'Gara tooMar 19 10:26
schestowitzI will write about it later, bandwidth permittingMar 19 10:27
schestowitzgnufreex: yes, I saw thatMar 19 10:27
schestowitzHe tweeted me about it like 4 timesMar 19 10:27
schestowitzIdiotMar 19 10:27
gnufreexYeah, trolled me tooMar 19 10:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] Just got #LP2011 rolling. @brettcsmith giving the low-down on the GPL and mobile app markets.Mar 19 10:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @themadhatter I agree, I now have visions of the fallout from the AttachMate deal that they claim patents on Evolution, being a Novell appMar 19 10:27
gnufreexI ignored.Mar 19 10:27
schestowitzgnufreex: don't say they complied :-) Microsoft pretended it was by designMar 19 10:28
schestowitzNot by accident cause they violated the GPLMar 19 10:28
schestowitzRamji even said so... before he quit Microsoft. :-DMar 19 10:28
gnufreexYeah, they first violated.Mar 19 10:28
schestowitzMost ethical company EVA..Mar 19 10:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Evolution seems so well integrated that any patent threat would be easier to just cough up than remove it, or ditch #Gnome altogetherMar 19 10:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] #LP2011 people are also in #libreplanet on Freenode. !lp !fsfMar 19 10:29
schestowitzThe Revolutions appear to have lost momentumMar 19 10:29
gnufreexlolMar 19 10:29
schestowitzLibya is slow progress, so no thrill in politicsMar 19 10:30
schestowitzI am trying to realign our focusMar 19 10:30
schestowitzCause Linux=AndroidMar 19 10:30
schestowitzAnd distros=ubuntu derivsMar 19 10:30
schestowitzFedora 14 is not there yet...Mar 19 10:30
schestowitzI try to love Feodra, but Ubuntu really is a class of its own in many aspectsMar 19 10:30
gnufreexThat means we are screwed.Mar 19 10:30
schestowitzSort of... depends on goalsMar 19 10:30
schestowitzUbuntu/Mint: I get popups suggesting I get a blob for my cardMar 19 10:31
schestowitzFedora: oppositeMar 19 10:31
schestowitzBest effort to give best free driverMar 19 10:31
schestowitzDebian got freerMar 19 10:31
schestowitzAnd Peter Brown left FSFMar 19 10:31
gnufreexIs that conected somehow?Mar 19 10:32
schestowitzI'm not ready to move on, but not that Linux means what Linus wants it to be (Android and stuff), it's time to diversify a bitMar 19 10:32
schestowitzLinus won overMar 19 10:32
schestowitzHe even got his tivoisationMar 19 10:32
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schestowitz!google linus I love tivoizationMar 19 10:32
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Coding Horror: Tivoization and the GPL | http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/2008/02/tivoization-and-the-gpl.htmlMar 19 10:32
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Copyright [LWN.net] | http://lwn.net/Articles/311021/Mar 19 10:32
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Brave GNU License - Forbes.com | http://www.forbes.com/2006/03/21/linux-stallman-gnu_cx_dl_0321stallman1.htmlMar 19 10:32
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Linus vs. the GPLv3 | ZDNet | http://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/linus-vs-the-gplv3/1200Mar 19 10:32
schestowitzgnufreex: probably donations-relatedMar 19 10:33
gnufreexYeahMar 19 10:33
schestowitzAlso, people smeared FSF and RMS a lotMar 19 10:33
schestowitzSo they got to the point of being seen  as unimportantMar 19 10:33
schestowitzThe likes of IDG throw wood in this fireMar 19 10:33
sebsebsebschestowitz: Right well earlier  I said I would link you to something, here it is: http://identi.ca/conversation/66543147  May aswell have gnufreex going on that as well :DMar 19 10:33
schestowitzLike calling RMS in SpainMar 19 10:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Conversation - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 18.7 KBMar 19 10:33
schestowitzAnd then calling him a hypocrite for responding by phone cause it's how they wanted him available for chatMar 19 10:34
sebsebsebhttp://identi.ca/conversation/66543147Mar 19 10:34
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schestowitzSo FSF doesn't get much donationsMar 19 10:34
schestowitzSun and IBM don't need to bribe the FSF much to keep FSF on their sideMar 19 10:34
schestowitzAnd Google the same..Mar 19 10:34
schestowitz!google android fsf newsMar 19 10:34
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - News — Free Software Foundation — working together for free software | http://www.fsf.org/news/Mar 19 10:34
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Steer clear of Android Market and its DRM — Free Software ... | http://www.fsf.org/blogs/licensing/android-market-has-drm-tooMar 19 10:34
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - FSF responds to Oracle v. Google and the threat of software ... | http://www.fsf.org/news/oracle-v-googleMar 19 10:34
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - FSF calls for campaign against Oracle over Android case - IT News ... | http://www.v3.co.uk/v3-uk/news/2012046/fsf-calls-campaign-oracle-androidMar 19 10:34
schestowitzEFF has more power than FSF nowMar 19 10:35
schestowitzAnd EFF handles a broader spectrum of subjectsMar 19 10:35
schestowitzEFF follows me in identica BTW... it doesn't follow many at allMar 19 10:35
amarsh04terrific, ALSA 1.0.24 is in current (post 2.6.38) kernelMar 19 10:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] I feel sleepy... I need a coffee!Mar 19 10:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks/@wikileaks] wikileaks: Pentagon Papers leaker: 'I was Bradley Manning' | CNN http://is.gd/TAexDn http://bit.ly/hNnL21Mar 19 10:36
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schestowitzBut the EFF deals with copyrights, which the FSF has been covering as wellMar 19 10:36
schestowitzFSFE kind of lost momentum when Georg left... it has just turned 10Mar 19 10:36
schestowitzhttp://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Ten-years-of-the-Free-Software-Foundation-Europe-1206716.htmlMar 19 10:36
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gnufreexIt sucks. Only the sellouts succed.Mar 19 10:36
schestowitzIIRC, Soros throws a buck at EFFMar 19 10:37
schestowitzAlso...Mar 19 10:37
schestowitzImportantlyMar 19 10:37
schestowitzWatch the "FSF" !group in identicaMar 19 10:37
schestowitzI loses traffic/signal over timeMar 19 10:37
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schestowitzBack in the days when I was roaming Digg FSF had massive impactMar 19 10:37
schestowitzgnufreex: 0/Mar 19 10:37
GoForbes28hi royMar 19 10:37
schestowitzI replied to you on the wiki this morningMar 19 10:38
schestowitzI'm starting to read some older news nowMar 19 10:38
schestowitzBut still on cellularMar 19 10:38
*schestowitz 's brain gets fried from USB sourceMar 19 10:38
schestowitzGoForbes28: we need to ralignMar 19 10:39
schestowitzTo explain people why Android misses the point a lot of the timeMar 19 10:39
GoForbes28realign?Mar 19 10:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @rejon Flight attendants are the masters of smalltalk. Whole group of em talking about nothing and providing me free travel Intel.Mar 19 10:39
schestowitzOtherwise people call Android "Linux victory" and go home with their DRM-laden toysMar 19 10:39
schestowitzGoForbes28: realign as in rethink how to make contributionsMar 19 10:39
gnufreexschestowitz: But. I don't support FSF because I wait for it to take over they world. I support it because it is right thing. So I don't care if Tivoists get more popularity.Mar 19 10:40
schestowitzI used to spend time covering Microsoft a lot, then a bit more political stuff, but the real issue is the demise of freedomMar 19 10:40
schestowitzSee my personal site/blog for detailsMar 19 10:40
schestowitzFSF gets weaker, Linus adds members like PanaSCOnic, and everything had DRM, kill switches, tivoisationMar 19 10:41
gnufreexSo, sellouts can have their money. Im in it for freedom. Mar 19 10:41
schestowitzAnd then there's Fog Computing and Open 'Core' in FOSSMar 19 10:41
schestowitzBasically, half jobs doneMar 19 10:41
schestowitzLike when someone says buy a cat and you go get a wagon and call it a "Car"Mar 19 10:42
schestowitz*car/cat/Mar 19 10:42
MinceRfreedom is disappearing even outside ITMar 19 10:42
schestowitzMinceR: exactlyMar 19 10:42
MinceRhungary, wikileaks, ACTA, TPPMar 19 10:42
schestowitzBut it's all IT-dependentMar 19 10:42
schestowitzIf everything is SaaS junk, then we have no controlMar 19 10:42
schestowitzI am using Oracle 'hosted' thing todayMar 19 10:42
schestowitzIt sucks, I'm just a 'guest' on the SW I useMar 19 10:42
schestowitzIt's not even locally installedMar 19 10:43
gnufreexIT and software became a way to sneak fascism behind people's backMar 19 10:43
schestowitzThey also track me this wayMar 19 10:43
schestowitzI don't want every mouse movement of mine tracked and registered somewhere. Nobody should need this type of detailed information.Mar 19 10:43
schestowitzWhat good can come out of it. Excuse : "to enhance service", "to protect you"...Mar 19 10:44
*schestowitz takes a screenshot of MinceR's desktop every 5 seconds in case he has a heart attack, so I can phone an ambulanceMar 19 10:45
gnufreex"to enhance service... by making more money by selling your personal data, and then maybe we put more stuff into service when we don't know what to do with all the money"Mar 19 10:45
gnufreexso there, better serviceMar 19 10:45
schestowitz"But that RMS guy... he's fringe... crazy... loon.... he said phones are TEH STALIN!! LOL OMG"Mar 19 10:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] !Listening to the Dixie Chicks and enjoying the sun!Mar 19 10:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @themadhatter I do use xfceMar 19 10:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] question: would freeipa.org and samba.org combo be more than enough to yank out a m$ active server system?Mar 19 10:46
gnufreex"to protect you... from yourself. You don't know what's good for you"Mar 19 10:46
schestowitzRemember:Mar 19 10:46
schestowitzFreedom-aware = crazyMar 19 10:46
schestowitzSlave = conformist, commendableMar 19 10:46
gnufreex"People don't care about freedom. So you shouldn't care either"Mar 19 10:47
gnufreexscratch thatMar 19 10:47
schestowitzThey don't know freedomMar 19 10:47
gnufreex"Most People(tm) don't care about freedom. So you shouldn't care either"Mar 19 10:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] !Fedora #FAmSCo meeting minutes http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2011-03-19/famsco.2011-03-19-14.10.htmlMar 19 10:47
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schestowitzSchools these days give "balance"Mar 19 10:47
schestowitzThey waste time teaching stupid stuff like religionsMar 19 10:48
gnufreexI am waiting the day when Microsfot will trademark "Most People"Mar 19 10:48
sebsebsebschestowitz: and Microsoft OfficeMar 19 10:48
schestowitzInstead of cautionary tales like 1984.. maybe http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/StasiMar 19 10:48
gnufreexOr "Reality"Mar 19 10:48
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gnufreexTheir marketing trolls use those words Mar 19 10:48
schestowitzgnufreex: people-ready?Mar 19 10:48
schestowitzgnufreex: "the real world"Mar 19 10:48
schestowitzgnufreex: common phrase for something elseMar 19 10:49
gnufreexNew product from RedmondMar 19 10:49
amarsh04current git head of Linus tree of kernel needs "# CONFIG_ACPI_APEI is not set " to build, but for a pre-acpi machine like mine, that's fineMar 19 10:49
gnufreexMicrosoft Real WorldMar 19 10:49
schestowitzamarsh04: 2.6.38?Mar 19 10:49
schestowitzamarsh04: what's your sname?Mar 19 10:49
schestowitz*unameMar 19 10:49
gnufreexThe virtual reality simulatorMar 19 10:49
amarsh04Linux victoria 2.6.38+ #15 SMP Sat Mar 19 19:47:24 CST 2011 i686 GNU/LinuxMar 19 10:50
amarsh04did a git pull earlier this eveningMar 19 10:50
schestowitzvictoria?Mar 19 10:50
amarsh04machine nameMar 19 10:50
schestowitzahMar 19 10:50
amarsh04dmesg is a bit more detailed: Linux version 2.6.38+ (root@am64) (gcc version 4.6.0 20110227 (experimental) [trunk revision 170543] (Debian 4.6-20110227-1) ) #15 SMP Sat Mar 19 19:47:24 CST 2011Mar 19 10:51
schestowitzhttp://www.linuxinsider.com/rsstory/72045.htmlMar 19 10:51
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schestowitzKim kept mailing meMar 19 10:51
schestowitzThe 'FOSS' companies that are parasitsMar 19 10:51
schestowitzOpenLogic, headed by former MicrosoftersMar 19 10:51
schestowitzNow they are busy telling people how it's all scary to comply with FOSS licencesMar 19 10:52
schestowitzLike proprietary is all simple...Mar 19 10:52
schestowitzLOLMar 19 10:52
schestowitzThese are the 'FOSS' companies we have... selling services around FUDMar 19 10:52
schestowitzBlack ***k tooMar 19 10:52
schestowitzFounded by a Microsoft dude, tooMar 19 10:52
GoForbes28schetowitz: "Like proprietary is all simple..."Mar 19 10:53
GoForbes28Take our friend Laurel for example: a simple font, no conclusive answerMar 19 10:53
amarsh04I've heard the line that it's too difficult for EDS to get approval to use Free Software in sa.gov.au, yet *.gov.au gives microsoft a blank chequeMar 19 10:53
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schestowitzhttp://www.linuxinsider.com/rsstory/72057.htmlMar 19 10:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Calling all students - Fedora is part of Google Summer of Code 2011 - Apply now. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Summer_coding_ideas_for_2011Mar 19 10:54
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schestowitzGoForbes28: indeedMar 19 10:54
schestowitzHow touchy she was about fontsMar 19 10:54
schestowitzOf all things...Mar 19 10:54
schestowitztwitter: we were just discussing the demise of FSF (IMHO)Mar 19 10:54
GoForbes28The FSF has survived through worseMar 19 10:55
sebsebsebschestowitz: GoForbes28 I saw some of that on identica as wellMar 19 10:55
sebsebsebschestowitz: GoForbes28 maybe she shuld use the Ubuntu font, she likes Ubuntu after all heh hehMar 19 10:55
GoForbes28YeahMar 19 10:55
GoForbes28How do you get the font from distrowatch?Mar 19 10:56
schestowitztwitter: You misunderstood what I had said about RSS feeds. I was suggesting something different, regarding what the sources of input to editors should be, not the outputMar 19 10:56
twitterdemise of FSF?Mar 19 10:56
schestowitzGoForbes28: what font?Mar 19 10:56
schestowitztwitter: weakeningMar 19 10:56
GoForbes28The new Ubuntu fontMar 19 10:56
twitterhow so?  Mar 19 10:56
GoForbes28used notably on distrowatchMar 19 10:56
schestowitzBrown leavingMar 19 10:56
GoForbes28Brown?Mar 19 10:56
schestowitzAnd their funding declining (maybe residue of economic collapse though)Mar 19 10:56
schestowitzAnd IDG does a number on RMSMar 19 10:57
GoForbes28The FSF has been through resessions beforeMar 19 10:57
GoForbes28IDG?Mar 19 10:57
GoForbes28link?Mar 19 10:57
schestowitzJoe MicrosoftMar 19 10:57
schestowitz!google stalin stallmanMar 19 10:57
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Richard Stallman: Cell Phones Are “Stalin's Dream” | Geekosystem | http://www.geekosystem.com/richard-stallman-cell-phones-stalins-dream/Mar 19 10:57
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Richard Stallman: Cell Phones Are 'Stalin's Dream' - Slashdot | http://mobile.slashdot.org/story/11/03/15/0432226/Richard-Stallman-Cell-Phones-Are-Stalins-Dream%3Ffrom%3DrssMar 19 10:57
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Cell phones are 'Stalin's dream,' says free software movement founder | http://www.networkworld.com/news/2011/031411-richard-stallman.htmlMar 19 10:57
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Software activist Richard Stallman calls cellphones “Stalin's ... | http://www.edibleapple.com/software-activist-richard-stallman-calls-cellphones-stalins-dream/Mar 19 10:57
twitterIDG is always doing a number on RMSMar 19 10:57
GoForbes28who care?Mar 19 10:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @howardknopf: RT @bsookman: "Persuasion should be based on truth rather than propaganda." say top UK judge http://bit.ly/h1mXFjMar 19 10:57
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