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amarsh04oh, ok thenMay 05 00:00
DaemonFCand the super.c fix doesn't fix anythingMay 05 00:00
DaemonFCit deletes 1 line of whitespace May 05 00:00
DaemonFCI don't suggest you use this :)May 05 00:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @carwinb Life after #Wikileaks | Who won the information war? Event Flyer http://ur1.ca/42zbdMay 05 00:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @carwinb A panel debate hosted by Index on Censorship. indexcensorship.org !wikileaksMay 05 00:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @carwinb Panel includes, Richard Cohen, Emily Bell, Mark Stephens, Andrei Soldatov, and PJ Crowley. !WikileaksMay 05 00:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @carwinb Richard Cohen is weekly columnist for The Washington Post writes on domestic and foreign politics. !wikileaksMay 05 00:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @carwinb Emily Bell director of the Tow Center for Digital Journalism At CSJ. !wikileaksMay 05 00:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @carwinb Mark Stephens represents Mr. Assange in his extradition case. Specializing in international law, Human Rights, IP, Media etc.May 05 00:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @carwinb Andre Soldatov investigative journalist and editor of agentura.ru, information hub on intel agencies. !wikileaksMay 05 00:02
DaemonFCphoronix has another bogus benchmark of r600gMay 05 00:04
DaemonFCwith old drm code May 05 00:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !Android Community • by Cory Gunther ⚫ #CyanogenMod 7 running strong, Installed on over 200,000 devices http://ping.fm/Z4NpPMay 05 00:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] !softwarelivre, direitos humanos, transparência, padrões, nuvens, e muito mais, dia 12/5 na Unicamp http://ur1.ca/42zbvMay 05 00:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @carwinb @PJCrowley Former spokesperson 4 US State Dep. Stepped down after his criticism of Pentagon regarding #Manning went viral. !wlMay 05 00:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: CyanogenMod 7 running strong, Installed on over 200,000 devices | Android Community .::. Size~: 45.24 KBMay 05 00:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Software Livre: Filosofia e Prática - mc039 .::. Size~: 26.44 KBMay 05 00:04
DaemonFCand omitting a bunch of patches from Mesa that landed recentlyMay 05 00:04
DaemonFCand leaving the driver at the default setting (no colortiling on 5000 and 6000 series)May 05 00:05
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DaemonFCand he uses the broken xorg-edgers packages for MesaMay 05 00:06
DaemonFCis there anything he didn't do wrong here? :)May 05 00:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] !softwarelivre, colaboração, agilidade, Android, Linux, GNU, Drupal, Qt, e muito mais, dia 12/5 na Unicamp http://ur1.ca/42zbvMay 05 00:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] carwinb Carwin B. Index on censorship took a positive but nuanced support of !Wikileaks !afterwikiMay 05 00:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @carwinb Richard Cohen has said that !Wikileaks is "contemptable". !afterwikiMay 05 00:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @carwinb Andre Sodatov, author of The New Nobility, re: FSB unraveling mysteries. !afterwiki !wikileaksMay 05 00:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] Espaço Livre para sua palestra relâmpago sobre !softwarelivre, dia 12/5 na Unicamp http://ur1.ca/42zbvMay 05 00:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @carwinb MS: Covenant w/gov't social contract. Secrets are part of gov't rightful rule. But degree is up for question. !afterwiki !wlMay 05 00:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @carwinb MS: 3rd estate should police the gov't. !afterwiki !wikileaksMay 05 00:07
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GoForbes28Richard Cohen?May 05 00:08
GoForbes28The same Richard Cohen called "World's Worst Writer"?May 05 00:08
DaemonFCI think Phoronix is full of shitMay 05 00:08
DaemonFC1. FGLRX is faster with OpenGL 3d acceleration, but not THAT much faster than a bleeding edge and properly tuned free software stack.May 05 00:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @carwinb MS: Julian notices the gap in market. Dev. method anonymous dropbox. How do we regulate an org that's stateless? !afterwiki !wlMay 05 00:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] sleep well @kevieMay 05 00:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @carwinb RC: No problem with getting info. "Contemptible" because he acted with disregard towards name in document. !afterwiki !wlMay 05 00:09
DaemonFC2. He omits the fact that going from ANY recent free stack to FGLRX causes slower 2d acceleration, video tearing, other nice stuff.May 05 00:09
DaemonFC:PMay 05 00:09
DaemonFC3. He also neglects how terrible FGLRX is with power management, and that the video card has to reset every time you switch consoles.May 05 00:10
DaemonFCand it never gets the console resolution rightMay 05 00:10
DaemonFCand you get a garbled bootscreen that flickers a lotMay 05 00:10
DaemonFCyou know, first rate Ubuntu experience May 05 00:10
DaemonFCif you're lucky, FGLRX won't lock up Compiz for youMay 05 00:10
DaemonFClike Unity needs any more help freezing upMay 05 00:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @carwinb RC: Had to be policed by #NYT etc. !wikileaks !afterwikiMay 05 00:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @carwinb RC: Complicated diplomacy for gov't. !afterwiki !wikileaksMay 05 00:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] [Friendly] Battle of the Distros • by mmorsi http://ping.fm/PzW8tMay 05 00:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] Dê uma mão http://ur1.ca/42zci com dúvidas e conhecimentos sobre !SoftwareLivre: Filosofia e Prática, 12/5 na Unicamp http://ur1.ca/42zbvMay 05 00:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @carwinb AS: .told by editors readers not interested in politics. !Wikileaks proved not true. journos failed to deliver info. !afterwikiMay 05 00:11
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Software Livre: Filosofia e Prática - Umamão: Respostas maduras .::. Size~: 20.62 KBMay 05 00:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @carwinb AS: I think he said that !Wikileaks has depended on trad. corp media. [UNCONFIRMED] !afterwikiMay 05 00:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @carwinb EB: !Wikileaks game changer. Demo'd info changed hands. Volume has changed. !Privacy and sources method changed. !afterwikiMay 05 00:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] Inscreva-se grátis para palestras e café com !softwarelivre, 12/5 na Unicamp http://ur1.ca/42zbvMay 05 00:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !Android Injector Installs Non-Market Apps on Your Phone, Even if Your Carrier Doesn't Allow It • by Whitson Gordon http://ping.fm/Ts8WiMay 05 00:12
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Lifehacker, tips and downloads for getting things done .::. Size~: 52.88 KBMay 05 00:13
DaemonFCheh, look it runs your game 20% faster! *may lock up your machine when using Firefox, in the middle of switching virtual desktops, etc. May not recover from monitor sleeping or system suspend. Boot screen flickers and looks like crap, and it has security issues*May 05 00:13
DaemonFCClick here to make your video card work better, Ubuntu supports this driver, kind of!May 05 00:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !TechBytes Episode 43: At Home With Jono Bacon, Ubuntu Community Manager http://is.gd/lU5tpn http://is.gd/DpImFv http://is.gd/siq9vq #ubuntuMay 05 00:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @carwinb EB: Needed tech knowledge to collect kinds of documents. !afterwiki !wikileaksMay 05 00:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] #TechBytes Episode 43: At Home With Jono Bacon, Ubuntu Community Manager http://is.gd/lU5tpn http://is.gd/DpImFv http://is.gd/siq9vq !ubuntuMay 05 00:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] Divulgue (RT) o Fórum !SoftwareLivre: Filosofia e Prática, 12/5 na Unicamp http://ur1.ca/42zbv e ganhe inscrição grátis ;-)May 05 00:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @carwinb EB: Internet is commercial space. Co's who own space are not nec, journalistic. Interesting set of problems. !afterwiki !wlMay 05 00:14
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DaemonFCschestowitz, Not to be rudeMay 05 00:15
schestowitzbut..?May 05 00:15
DaemonFCyou front page looks like you made it in Netscape 4 ComposerMay 05 00:15
DaemonFCB-)May 05 00:15
schestowitzthe background?May 05 00:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @carwinb EB: a new negotiation, legal and tech. CSJ has new course on !Wikileaks next fall. !afterwikiMay 05 00:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @carwinb PJ: Not info war. Calls NYT "responsible". Not about secrecy, about responsibility. !wikileaks !afterwikiMay 05 00:16
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DaemonFCschestowitz, http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/7987/snapshot1zp.pngMay 05 00:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Looks like #Oracle offloading another !OpenSource project - Developer http://ping.fm/9QWUyMay 05 00:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @carwinb PJ: #Assange and !Wikileaks putting in danger the ppl that he thought he was empowering. State Dept. is the savior. !aferwikiMay 05 00:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @carwinb PJ: Had to move ppl. "US most transparent country in the world." Says !Wikileaks is not "whistleblowing" !afterwikiMay 05 00:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Oracle Commits to Open Source Hudson at Eclipse - Developer.com .::. Size~: 73.93 KBMay 05 00:17
schestowitzOh yeahMay 05 00:18
schestowitzI heard...May 05 00:18
schestowitzDaemonFC: you got some res as meMay 05 00:18
schestowitz1920x1200?May 05 00:18
schestowitzoh waitMay 05 00:19
schestowitz1080May 05 00:19
schestowitzMehMay 05 00:19
schestowitzBut nice desktopMay 05 00:19
schestowitzNo GNOME, eitherMay 05 00:19
schestowitzNo UNITY!May 05 00:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @kgosztola Note 251,000 cables were not just pushed out @PJCrowley !afterwiki Only about 12,000 or so cables released so far !wikileaksMay 05 00:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @carwinb PJ: Talking about the content strategy that evolved after 9/11. NCD Net-Centric-Database !afterwiki !wikileaksMay 05 00:19
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/72682832May 05 00:20
TechrightsBot-tr@TechBytes (techbytes)'s status on Wednesday, 04-May-11 23:14:30 UTC - Identi.ca: !bytesmedia Web site to start hosting episode mirrors http://is.gd/lU5tpn http://is.gd/DpImFv http://is.gd/siq9vq thanks to @jonobaconMay 05 00:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @kgosztola #Assange is saying is US foreign policy is wrong in every country in the world @PJCrowley does not believe that !afterwiki !wlMay 05 00:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @carwinb Most intel on "terrorists" domestically found by traditional detective work. See Frontline/TWP Top Secret America !afterwikiMay 05 00:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @carwinb Note: So perhaps CS startegy after 9/11 was simply not effective. !afterwiki !wikileaksMay 05 00:22
GoForbes28sounds awesome royMay 05 00:24
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GoForbes28what's a seb?May 05 00:26
GoForbes28just your name?May 05 00:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @carwinb Top Secret America - top secret world the government created in response to the 9/11 attacks http://ur1.ca/42zit !afterwiki !wlMay 05 00:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] How can a company that claims to grok open source send an entirely transparent open source non-profit a subpoena?May 05 00:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Top Secret America - the top secret world the government created in response to the 9/11 attacks | FRONTLINE | PBS .::. Size~: 21.88 KBMay 05 00:27
Ender2070speaking of censusMay 05 00:27
Ender2070its coming this yearMay 05 00:28
Ender2070http://calgary.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20110504/census-mandatory-110504/20110504/?hub=CalgaryHomeMay 05 00:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: CTV Calgary- Internet abuzz with tweets about mandatory census - CTV News .::. Size~: 167.06 KBMay 05 00:28
Ender2070im probably throwing mine out in protestMay 05 00:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @carwinb MS: Issue if over classification. !afterwiki !wikileaksMay 05 00:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @carwinb PJ: State Dept. very proud of itself from cables. But sources have been put at risk. !afterwiki !wikileaksMay 05 00:29
DaemonFCEnder2070, Just lie on itMay 05 00:29
DaemonFCtell them you're a black/latino homosexual domestic coupleMay 05 00:29
DaemonFCand that you use superpowers for a living while keeping the cover of a flaming queer that sets off sprinkler systemsMay 05 00:30
DaemonFCB-)May 05 00:30
DaemonFCworks for meMay 05 00:30
Ender2070lolMay 05 00:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @carwinb Q: What are the facts around !Wikileaks effects? !afterwikiMay 05 00:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @carwinb PJ: 100s of ppls lives put in peril !wikileaks !afterwikiMay 05 00:31
schestowitzToday's 1.2 MB of logs released: http://techrights.org/2011/05/04/irc-log-04052011/May 05 00:32
TechrightsBot-trTitle: IRC Proceedings: May 4th, 2011 | Techrights .::. Size~: 78.28 KBMay 05 00:32
schestowitzYesterday's was about 1 MBMay 05 00:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @carwinb MS: No breach of defense adv scheme (from UK) Unaware that ppl have been harmed. Have done their best on redactions. !afterwikiMay 05 00:32
schestowitzGoForbes28: sebastianMay 05 00:33
schestowitzhe's techrights' cameo!May 05 00:33
DaemonFCEnder2070, Negative, Negative. I am a meat popsicle! May 05 00:33
DaemonFCB-)May 05 00:33
schestowitz[00:28] <Ender2070> http://calgary.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20110504/census-mandatory-110504/20110504/?hub=CalgaryHomeMay 05 00:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: CTV Calgary- Internet abuzz with tweets about mandatory census - CTV News .::. Size~: 167.06 KBMay 05 00:34
schestowitzYes, we have it here tooMay 05 00:34
schestowitzThey didn't send me a formMay 05 00:34
Ender2070yeahMay 05 00:34
schestowitzI wasted time online ordering itMay 05 00:34
DaemonFChttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIW8Ioi-KewMay 05 00:34
schestowitzAnd they didn't deliverMay 05 00:34
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DaemonFCB-)May 05 00:34
Ender2070lolMay 05 00:34
schestowitzSo they send compliance offers, twiceMay 05 00:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @carwinb MS: first time hearing of ppl put at harm. !afterwiki !wikileaksMay 05 00:34
schestowitzAnd they give me anothe formMay 05 00:34
schestowitzI fill it onlineMay 05 00:34
schestowitzIn religion I put "Pink Unicorn"May 05 00:34
schestowitzAnd anyway, at the end they still send me threatening letters pretending I never filled out this junkMay 05 00:35
Ender2070ill probably just ignore itMay 05 00:35
schestowitzWhich BTW is very intrusiveMay 05 00:35
DaemonFCI put in Jedi Knight in mineMay 05 00:35
DaemonFC:PMay 05 00:35
Ender2070if its not addressed to me im throwing it outMay 05 00:35
Ender2070its illegal not to open mail thats not yoursMay 05 00:35
schestowitzThey ask very personal question and also collect info on every bit of your life, it's not anonymousMay 05 00:35
Ender2070errMay 05 00:35
Ender2070its illegal to open*May 05 00:35
schestowitz!google boycott census uk guardianMay 05 00:35
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Boycott the UK census over links to Lockheed Martin, protesters ... | http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/feb/19/census-boycott-lockheed-martinMay 05 00:35
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Public urged to boycott census over contractor's alleged torture ... | http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/mar/06/scotland-census-abu-ghraibMay 05 00:35
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - This Lockheed Martin contract tarnishes the census | Chris Browne ... | http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/mar/18/lockheed-martin-census-arms-companiesMay 05 00:35
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - When the suffragettes were out for the count | Life and style ... | http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2011/apr/01/suffragettes-census-1911-boycottMay 05 00:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @carwinb EB: this is a area for study on contagion, cause and effect of information release. !wikileaks !afterwikiMay 05 00:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @carwinb EB: Far to early to talk winners and loser (she said earlier) !wikileaks !afterwikiMay 05 00:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @carwinb AS: (question was has US response played into Kremlim's hands?) !afterwiki !wikileaksMay 05 00:36
Ender2070why would I want to give my info directly to Lockheed Martin ?May 05 00:36
schestowitzEnder2070: heheMay 05 00:36
DaemonFCI am a Jedi Knight that rides a pink unicorn into battle the forces of Satan. Psychiatrist: "I'm prescribing a mild antipsychotic" Me: But you let Christians roam about unmedicated? What kind of doctor are you? May 05 00:36
DaemonFC:PMay 05 00:36
schestowitzThat's another thingMay 05 00:36
DaemonFCtrue storyMay 05 00:36
schestowitzThey mail it without my nameMay 05 00:36
schestowitzAnd online they get every bit of infoMay 05 00:37
schestowitzBut they knock on people's door repeatedlyMay 05 00:37
schestowitzThey say they want statsMay 05 00:37
schestowitzWhat they really want is privacy instrusionMay 05 00:37
Ender2070yes exactlyMay 05 00:37
schestowitzAnd it's compulsoryMay 05 00:37
schestowitz’1000 fineMay 05 00:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @kgosztola Andrei Soldatov cannot name names of people that may have been imperiled by the #wikileaks release !afterwiki !wikileaksMay 05 00:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @carwinb EB: !Wikileaks brings to the fore the question of the role of the press during national security events/crisis. !afterwikiMay 05 00:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @kgosztola Nobody particularly wanted 2 talk abt !wikileaks -- elephant in the room at the World Press Freedom Day yesterday !afterwikiMay 05 00:37
schestowitzThey just use it to get people to cave in t threatsMay 05 00:38
Ender2070theres a 500 dollar fine in CanadaMay 05 00:38
schestowitzI doubt they'll take people to courtMay 05 00:38
Ender2070yet, its not against the law to refuse to voteMay 05 00:38
DaemonFCin the US you can be jailed for 2 years for lying on the censusMay 05 00:38
schestowitzBesides, they harass them until just giving away details is the easier choiceMay 05 00:38
DaemonFCnot filling one out is a $500 fineMay 05 00:38
schestowitzDaemonFC: got URL?May 05 00:38
schestowitzIf it's a census, then they redefine the termMay 05 00:39
DaemonFCno I don't :PMay 05 00:39
Ender2070http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/S-19/index.htmlMay 05 00:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @carwinb MS: Speaking to the issue of commercial censorship of !Wikileaks. !afterwikiMay 05 00:39
DaemonFCI recall reading the last person they prosecuted for census fraud was in the 1970sMay 05 00:39
schestowitzconvicted?May 05 00:39
schestowitzImagine spending money on lawyers' fees just for the principleMay 05 00:40
Ender2070i wouldntMay 05 00:40
Ender2070i'd self representMay 05 00:40
DaemonFCHow do they not know already how many people live here?May 05 00:40
Ender2070lawyers are sworn to protect the systemMay 05 00:40
DaemonFCThe tax records probably give thm a more accurate picture than the censusMay 05 00:40
DaemonFC:)May 05 00:40
schestowitzDaemonFC: that's the thingMay 05 00:41
Ender2070wellMay 05 00:41
Ender2070except for the illegalsMay 05 00:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @carwinb PJ: US gov't never interfered with traditional media's coverage of cable. !afterwiki !wikileaksMay 05 00:41
schestowitzif you have illegal workers in your basement they won't be counted anywayMay 05 00:41
Ender2070which they want to provide services forMay 05 00:41
DaemonFCyeahMay 05 00:41
schestowitzSo for purposes of tracking illegal aliens it's uselessMay 05 00:41
DaemonFCJuan Doe is a popular name Ender2070 May 05 00:41
schestowitzBesides I told them everythingMay 05 00:41
Ender2070LOLMay 05 00:41
DaemonFCThey all have the same birth day tooMay 05 00:41
DaemonFCand drivers license numberMay 05 00:41
schestowitzI wonder how many other people have Pink Unicorn as their faithMay 05 00:41
*schestowitz looks forward to finding outMay 05 00:41
DaemonFCyou have to have a license to drive a car, but they'll let anyone get pregnantMay 05 00:42
DaemonFC:PMay 05 00:42
Ender2070there are a lot of Jedi'sMay 05 00:42
schestowitzI think we need better representationMay 05 00:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @carwinb PJ: US gov't never spoke to Mastercard. [My note Lieberman?] !afterwiki !wikileaksMay 05 00:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @QULSH !afterwiki PJ Crowley is such a tool and a painful apologist of the government, it's nauseating!! !wikileaksMay 05 00:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @kgosztola Of course US government wasn't worried @PJCrowley Government met with #NYTimes and had control !wikileaks !afterwikiMay 05 00:42
schestowitzPink UnicornMay 05 00:42
schestowitzActually, it sounds kind of gay. Jedi would have been better./May 05 00:43
schestowitzI'll probably fall under "other" because there are many "Jedi" out thereMay 05 00:43
Ender2070remember hitler's pink swastika groupMay 05 00:43
DaemonFC"Religion"May 05 00:43
schestowitzEnder2070: Hitler was RCMay 05 00:43
DaemonFCschestowitz: "ZOMG PINK PONIES!!!!"May 05 00:43
schestowitzThey are the angelsMay 05 00:44
DaemonFCschestowitz will march all the gays to campsMay 05 00:44
DaemonFCand give them matching tattoos May 05 00:44
schestowitzIn Solstice Holiday we eat this:May 05 00:44
DaemonFCand shirts with pink trianglesMay 05 00:44
schestowitz!google pink unicorn meatMay 05 00:44
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Stained glass invisible pink unicorn symbol? - Forums of Loathing | http://forums.kingdomofloathing.com/vb/showthread.php%3Ft%3D185562May 05 00:44
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - demotivational poster UNICORN MEAT An Excellent Source of Sparkles ... | http://www.motifake.com/unicorn-meat-unicorn-demotivational-posters-96767.htmlMay 05 00:44
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - National Pork Board sends Cease & Desist letter to ThinkGeek over ... | http://www.dreamindemon.com/forums/showthread.php%3F45470-National-Pork-Board-sends-Cease-amp-Desist-letter-to-ThinkGeek-over-Unicorn-Meat-sloganMay 05 00:44
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - When do you think the Invisible Pink Unicorn will return? - Yahoo ... | http://au.answers.yahoo.com/question/index%3Fqid%3D20110114012254AATTWdaMay 05 00:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @carwinb RC: rabble rabble !afterwiki !wikileaksMay 05 00:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @kgosztola Richard Cohen saying the free enterprise system plays rough, attacks not just result of Internet !wikileaks !afterwikiMay 05 00:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @carwinb Can Assange be charged with espionage? !afterwiki !wikileaksMay 05 00:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @carwinb PJ: I am not a lawyer. Investigation pending. That's their job. !afterwiki !wikileaksMay 05 00:44
schestowitzIn Spring holiday we can't.May 05 00:45
schestowitz!google thinkgeek pink unicorn May 05 00:45
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Unicornomics - Filed under 'thinkgeek' | http://unicornomics.com/%3Ftag%3DthinkgeekMay 05 00:45
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - ThinkGeek :: Prime Cuts of Unicorn Apron | http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts-apparel/miscellaneous/e848/May 05 00:45
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - ThinkGeek :: Unikeys Unicorn Key Caps | http://www.thinkgeek.com/homeoffice/gear/cd1b/May 05 00:45
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - National Pork Board sends Cease & Desist letter to ThinkGeek over ... | http://www.dreamindemon.com/forums/showthread.php%3F45470-National-Pork-Board-sends-Cease-amp-Desist-letter-to-ThinkGeek-over-Unicorn-Meat-sloganMay 05 00:45
DaemonFCschestowitz,  You heard about all the people that killed themselves after watching Avatar?May 05 00:45
DaemonFCI almost didn't make it through the movie May 05 00:45
DaemonFCB-)May 05 00:45
schestowitzDaemonFC: joke?May 05 00:45
schestowitz!google Avatar leads to suicideMay 05 00:45
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Audiences experience 'Avatar' blues - CNN | http://articles.cnn.com/2010-01-11/entertainment/avatar.movie.blues_1_pandora-depressed-posts%3F_s%3DPM:SHOWBIZMay 05 00:45
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - 'Avatar' driving us to suicide, say fans - Economic Times | http://articles.economictimes.indiatimes.com/2010-01-12/news/27594974_1_avatar-forums-suicidal-thoughts-pandoraMay 05 00:45
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Avatar leading to depression? | accessAtlanta | http://www.accessatlanta.com/atlanta-movies/avatar-leading-to-depression-275358.htmlMay 05 00:45
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Man died after watching Avatar - doctor | News.com.au | http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/feature/man-died-after-watching-avatar/story-e6frfnv0-1225821333043May 05 00:45
DaemonFCthat the movie sucks, yesMay 05 00:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @carwinb PJ: Do you see Assange as a journo or source? !wikileaks !afterwikiMay 05 00:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @carwinb PJ: I don't see #Assange as source. I don't think US Gov will prosecute Assange. !afterwiki !wikileaksMay 05 00:46
DaemonFCI'm way too narcissistic to kill myselfMay 05 00:46
DaemonFCB-)May 05 00:46
schestowitzYou have the gunMay 05 00:46
schestowitzWhy don't you put it to use? /sarcasmMay 05 00:46
DaemonFCJames Cameron?May 05 00:46
schestowitzJabba will get your inheritanceMay 05 00:46
Ender2070instead of using the censusMay 05 00:46
DaemonFCor Stephen Spielberg?May 05 00:46
Ender2070why doesnt the government just use its facebook backdoorMay 05 00:46
schestowitzWill give him enough to buy lots of pink unicorn meat :) Yum!May 05 00:47
DaemonFCSpielberg ruined Indiana Jones May 05 00:47
DaemonFCbut George Lucas let himMay 05 00:47
DaemonFCthey must both dieMay 05 00:47
DaemonFCGeorge Lucas must die twice May 05 00:47
schestowitz: http://yro.slashdot.org/story/11/05/02/2223239/Assange-Facebook-the-Most-Appalling-Spy-Machine-EverMay 05 00:47
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Assange: Facebook 'the Most Appalling Spy Machine' Ever - Slashdot .::. Size~: 172.16 KBMay 05 00:47
DaemonFConce for Kingdom of the Crystal SkullMay 05 00:47
DaemonFCand once for Jar Jar Binks May 05 00:47
schestowitzGov. has secret facebook UIMay 05 00:47
DaemonFC:)May 05 00:47
schestowitzIt's for them, not for youMay 05 00:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @carwinb PJ: #Manning prosecution undermined by treatment. Made sympathetic, "perhaps more than he deserves" But, RuleofLaw !afterwikiMay 05 00:47
schestowitz[00:47] <DaemonFC> Spielberg ruined Indiana Jones May 05 00:48
schestowitzWell I heard that Spielberg is quite a religious+superstition nut himselfMay 05 00:48
schestowitzBelieving in ghosts and such stuffMay 05 00:48
schestowitzAmazing that even stupidity can be rewarded with financial successMay 05 00:48
DaemonFCwell, now Indy has fought demons, ghosts, nazis, soviets, and space aliens May 05 00:49
schestowitzBut then again, Spielberg is from the StatesMay 05 00:49
DaemonFCB-)May 05 00:49
schestowitzIt's a very religious countryMay 05 00:49
DaemonFCSpielberg is a JewMay 05 00:49
schestowitz!google fox news europe paganMay 05 00:49
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - YouTube - FOX Business: European Economy Hurt by Secularism? | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DlA-cpzGWVwEMay 05 00:49
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Europeans Are "a Pack of Pagan Losers" - Atlantic Review ... | http://atlanticreview.org/archives/1383-Europeans-Are-a-Pack-of-Pagan-Losers.htmlMay 05 00:49
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - FoxNews host: US to resemble Europeans, "who are a pack of pagan ... | http://www.narutoforums.com/showthread.php%3Ft%3D610340May 05 00:49
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Pagans, Partygoers Celebrate Summer Solstice at Stonehenge ... | http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,369824,00.htmlMay 05 00:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @eperlste !AfterWiki @PJCrowley knows something about Bradley #Manning we all don't !wikileaks !cablegate !freeBradleyMay 05 00:49
DaemonFCwhat do you expect?May 05 00:49
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schestowitzDaemonFC: that does not exempt him from stupidityMay 05 00:50
DaemonFCno I have nothing against jewish people, the religion of Judaism is retardedMay 05 00:50
schestowitzI heard he had all his staff relocated, evacuating a hotel cause he thought it was hauntedMay 05 00:50
schestowitzThat's based on Skeptoid podcast anywayMay 05 00:50
DaemonFCok, clear that up before I get labeled as a Nazi or something May 05 00:50
schestowitzAnd then there's Oprah !May 05 00:51
DaemonFCbut their religion isn't more retarded than mostMay 05 00:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @carwinb MS: Trading classified info...oils wheels of Washington...(good pt.)..clamp down.challenge for democracy/journalism. !afterwikiMay 05 00:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @Indoncensorship @MarksLarks: will be a challenge for democracy if sources afraid to come fwd as result of #manning case !afterwiki !wlMay 05 00:51
schestowitzOMG. Talking of stupid show to make people dumber with liesMay 05 00:51
DaemonFCplenty of people have died over it, like others of its type May 05 00:51
schestowitzDaemonFC: Scientology makes more sense than some of themMay 05 00:51
schestowitzAt least  Scientology made up an amusing storyMay 05 00:51
schestowitzNot of genocideMay 05 00:51
schestowitzAnd it doesn't claim Earth to be 5,500-6000 years oldMay 05 00:52
schestowitzImagine thisMay 05 00:52
DaemonFCXenu and the volcanoes and the hydrogen bombs and the galactic confederationMay 05 00:52
DaemonFCand the space transports that look like DC-9sMay 05 00:52
DaemonFCB-)May 05 00:52
schestowitzIf the 'major' religion said we came from volcanoes, alients, and all that malarkeyMay 05 00:52
DaemonFCTHETANS!!!!!May 05 00:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @kgosztola Andrei Soldatov said invest. journalism more difficult b/c new media being told not make new websites (Russia?) !afterwikiMay 05 00:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @carwinb AS: #Assange is not a journalist. !afterwiki !wikileaksMay 05 00:52
DaemonFCschestowitz, you have THETANS!!!!May 05 00:52
DaemonFCQUICK, GIVE US MONEY TO DRIVE THEM OUT!!!May 05 00:53
schestowitzAnd then Scientology came about with 'holy' scripture about a genocidal sky daddy and a world with heaven and hell, aged just 6000 yearsMay 05 00:53
schestowitzDaemonFC: LOLMay 05 00:53
schestowitzThis one is new: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jd-RKWYTXI8May 05 00:53
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schestowitzI didn't know they had to pay 10% of their income to the charla... I mean, to GodMay 05 00:53
DaemonFCschestowitz, Catholicism is at least intellectually dishonest May 05 00:54
schestowitzThetans LOLMay 05 00:54
DaemonFCProtestantism, especially of the southern US variety is just taking advantage of simpletonsMay 05 00:54
schestowitzSounds kind of scientificMay 05 00:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @rohanjay RT @kgosztola The elephant in room on World Press Freedom Day http://wlcentral.org/node/1734 !afterwiki !wikileaksMay 05 00:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @carwinb Someone better stand up and defend !Wikileaks. !afterwikiMay 05 00:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 2011-05-03 US Hosts World Press Freedom Day in the Midst of Prosecuting Media Publisher WikiLeaks | WL Central .::. Size~: 29.15 KBMay 05 00:54
schestowitzIonsMay 05 00:54
schestowitzand thetansMay 05 00:54
schestowitzTell ChopraMay 05 00:54
DaemonFChow did it go from fancy clothes, holy water, reciting latin, etc. toMay 05 00:54
DaemonFCOUT SATAN, OUT DEVIL, OUT!!!!May 05 00:54
DaemonFCB-)May 05 00:54
schestowitzMaybe he can add to the mix of lingo with fraud science for silly peopleMay 05 00:55
schestowitz!google chopra fraud mumbo-jumboMay 05 00:55
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - A Few Thoughts on Ayurvedic Mumbo-Jumbo | http://www.quackwatch.com/04ConsumerEducation/chopra.htmlMay 05 00:55
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Deepak Chopra and the Chopra Center - ReligionFacts | http://www.religionfacts.com/a-z-religion-index/deepak_chopra.htmMay 05 00:55
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - THQ locks down multi-year rights to Deepak Chopra games | Joystiq | http://www.joystiq.com/2010/10/12/thq-locks-down-multi-year-rights-to-deepak-chopra-games/May 05 00:55
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - TIME.com: The Man Who Loves To Bust Quacks | http://www.chiro.org/LINKS/DISCONTINUED/The_Man_Who_Loves_To_Bust.htmlMay 05 00:55
DaemonFCDeepak Chopra is a con artistMay 05 00:55
DaemonFCkind of a Benny Hinn of the New Age movementMay 05 00:55
schestowitzI confronted him in Twitter a while back, his followers lack a brainMay 05 00:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @carwinb Learning to Leverage New Media http://1.usa.gov/iOK9IB !afterwiki !wikileaksMay 05 00:56
TechrightsBot-trNot a web page! Aborting application/pdf typeMay 05 00:56
schestowitzSic'ing them on people who thinkMay 05 00:56
schestowitzDaemonFC: and Uri Geller, another fraudMay 05 00:56
DaemonFCschestowitz, it's easier to go along with the group even while you know it's bullshitMay 05 00:56
DaemonFCleads to less conflictsMay 05 00:56
schestowitzThe interesting thing is, a lot of people don't mindMay 05 00:57
DaemonFClike saying Amen at the dinner table on their religious holidaysMay 05 00:57
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schestowitzThey are adament that it's acceptable and harmless when people think that magic - not pills and chemo - will cure their cancerMay 05 00:57
schestowitzDaemonFC: rightMay 05 00:57
schestowitz[00:56] <DaemonFC> schestowitz, it's easier to go along with the group even while you know it's bullshitMay 05 00:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @carwinb Question: In China !Wikileaks is blocked but state media not....how can the org not be used by authoritarian regimes !afterwikiMay 05 00:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @carwinb Is the New York Times impartial? !afterwiki !wikileaksMay 05 00:57
schestowitzSo many play a longMay 05 00:57
schestowitzTalking to airMay 05 00:58
schestowitz!google silverman fox closet atheistsMay 05 00:58
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - David Silverman vs. Fox News Panel | Atheist Media Blog | http://www.atheistmedia.com/2010/12/david-silverman-vs-fox-news-panel.htmlMay 05 00:58
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - YouTube - Closet Atheists, More Than You Think! | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DvK1EwxewaJAMay 05 00:58
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Friendly Atheist » Was Dave Silverman on Fox News Again?! | http://friendlyatheist.com/2010/12/04/was-dave-silverman-on-fox-news-again/May 05 00:58
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Atheist Perspective: Atheist David Silverman vs. Fox News Panel ... | http://www.atheistperspective.net/2010/12/atheist-david-silverman-vs-fox-news.htmlMay 05 00:58
DaemonFCschestowitz, The kind of people that are convinced to stop taking their pills and go ask a man in a suit to lay hands on them, uhhhmMay 05 00:58
DaemonFCdo we want more or less of them?May 05 00:58
schestowitzat least they did *Something* about itMay 05 00:58
DaemonFCjust don't argue with them :)May 05 00:58
schestowitzThere'll be less of themMay 05 00:59
schestowitzBut...May 05 00:59
DaemonFCexactlyMay 05 00:59
schestowitzThey reproduce moreMay 05 00:59
schestowitzRapture will FixEverything{tm}May 05 00:59
schestowitzOverpopulation tooMay 05 00:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @kgosztola From Zimbabwe, questioner saying WikiLeaks had a huge negative impact on opposition in country !afterwiki !wikileaksMay 05 00:59
DaemonFCright, the people who reproduce the most are the ones who aren't smart enough to use birth controlMay 05 00:59
DaemonFCor the ones who have been told by their religion it is evilMay 05 00:59
DaemonFCcondoms are murder you knowMay 05 00:59
schestowitzAffiliating with religion as identity to counter issues of poor employment and insufficient foodMay 05 00:59
schestowitzLike in N. AfricaMay 05 01:00
DaemonFCall those potential children bagged up and tied in a knotMay 05 01:00
DaemonFCand just thrown in the garbage May 05 01:00
schestowitz[00:59] <DaemonFC> or the ones who have been told by their religion it is evilMay 05 01:00
schestowitzIt isMay 05 01:00
schestowitzIt impedes the religion from spreadingMay 05 01:00
schestowitzLess clientsMay 05 01:00
DaemonFCit's just like masturbation, wicked spilling of seed!May 05 01:00
DaemonFCgenocide!!!May 05 01:00
schestowitzLess contraception, more clients and market growthMay 05 01:00
schestowitzWage derivativesMay 05 01:00
DaemonFCquick, bomb the condom factory!May 05 01:00
schestowitzIs that the new thing?May 05 01:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @carwinb Host: US military's info war is a "mute" point. !afterwiki !wikileaks << didn't military "mute" boingboing?May 05 01:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @carwinb EB: (smartest person on panel w Stephens) regarding the nature of power, governance, and information. !afterwiki !wikileaksMay 05 01:01
schestowitzAfter bombing abortion clinics?May 05 01:01
DaemonFCoh, give it timeMay 05 01:01
DaemonFC:)May 05 01:01
schestowitz!google monty python sacredMay 05 01:01
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - YouTube - Every Sperm is Sacred {Monty Python's Meaning of Life} | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DU0kJHQpvgB8May 05 01:01
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Monty Python and the Holy Grail | http://www.sacred-texts.com/neu/mphg/mphg.htmMay 05 01:01
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Monty Python and the Holy Grail - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monty_Python_and_the_Holy_GrailMay 05 01:01
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Every Sperm Is Sacred Lyrics by Monty Python | http://www.lyricsdepot.com/monty-python/every-sperm-is-sacred.htmlMay 05 01:01
DaemonFCcondoms don't save lives, Jesus doesMay 05 01:01
DaemonFChaving a penis and wanting to use it, that's Satan speaking to youMay 05 01:01
DaemonFCB-)May 05 01:01
schestowitzI heard your mayor was doing rsearchMay 05 01:02
DaemonFCthat's Satan trapping blood inside it and making it grow bigger and difficult to hideMay 05 01:02
DaemonFCquick, start praying!May 05 01:02
schestowitzHe researched his anatomyMay 05 01:02
schestowitzSteve somethingMay 05 01:02
schestowitzWhat's his name?May 05 01:02
DaemonFCUpdikeMay 05 01:02
schestowitzYeahMay 05 01:02
schestowitzhe was just checking to see if there were tumoursMay 05 01:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @kgosztola Stephens suggests if you say !WikiLeaks impacting pro-democracy movemnts have 2 also suggest mediapartners have too !afterwikiMay 05 01:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @carwinb MS: Does not know if their is a doomsday file. !afterwiki !wikileaksMay 05 01:02
DaemonFCtesticular self examsMay 05 01:03
DaemonFCthey need done dailyMay 05 01:03
DaemonFCand for at least 10 minutesMay 05 01:03
DaemonFCbe through!May 05 01:03
DaemonFCB-)May 05 01:03
DaemonFCschestowitz, You know that medical science has found that not only is masturbation harmless, it alleviates depression (who'd have guessed?) and that it reduces the chances of getting prostate or testicular cancer?May 05 01:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] #MBTA ad on #39bus "Can you identify the police in this photo? How about on this train?" No, but I can identify a train vs a 'bus.May 05 01:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @carwinb CPJ asks re declassification of doc in the public domain. !afterwiki !wikileaksMay 05 01:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @carwinb PJ repudiates that kind of response. !afterwiki !wikileaksMay 05 01:04
DaemonFCSure sounds evil and wicked to meMay 05 01:04
DaemonFCI know a loving God would want me to be depressed and get cancer and die.May 05 01:04
DaemonFCB-)May 05 01:04
schestowitz[01:04] <DaemonFC> I know a loving God would want me to be depressed and get cancer and die.May 05 01:05
schestowitz!google "God works in mysterious ways"May 05 01:05
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Answers.com - Does 'God moves in mysterious ways' come from the Bible | http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Does_%27God_moves_in_mysterious_ways%27_come_from_the_BibleMay 05 01:05
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Urban Dictionary: God works in mysterious ways | http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php%3Fterm%3DGod%2520works%2520in%2520mysterious%2520waysMay 05 01:05
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - God works in mysterious ways - Wiktionary | http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/God_works_in_mysterious_waysMay 05 01:05
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - God Works in Mysterious Ways [July - September 2006] | http://www.verticalthought.org/issues/vt12/works.htmMay 05 01:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @Indoncensorship I@PJCrowley says State employees c/read what want on home computer, not unclassified government computers !afterwiki !wlMay 05 01:06
DaemonFCschestowitz, There's only 7 billion humans, if I never reproduce, what will happen to us?May 05 01:07
DaemonFCZOMG, it's the end of humanity!!!!May 05 01:07
DaemonFCB-)May 05 01:07
DaemonFCbrb, have to take some movies back before God smites me with $2.50 in late feesMay 05 01:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @kgosztola !wikiLeaks makes State Dept go Kafka- can't pull up classified StateDept cable on unclassified computer @PJCrowley !afterwikiMay 05 01:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @carwinb PJ continues to blab on more about how the US is great. !afterwiki !wikileaksMay 05 01:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @carwinb Question: What is "Scientific Journalism". !afterwiki !wikileaksMay 05 01:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @carwinb Question: State Dept. also blocked from PressTV. Is #Assange negligent, should there be a penalty.? !afterwiki !wikileaksMay 05 01:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @carwinb Question: Too much of media taking point of gov't. There is a moral and ethical code in journalism. !afterwiki !wikileaksMay 05 01:11
schestowitztaking movies back?May 05 01:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @carwinb Question: 250,000 documents released. NOTE: !Wikileaks has *not* released all those documents !afterwiki !wikileaksMay 05 01:12
schestowitzWhat are you, in the 90s?May 05 01:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @carwinb In the information age the means of production are in your head. >> Who owns yours? asks @carwinb's aside !afterwikiMay 05 01:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @kgosztola #Assange has a political agenda and does not know what a story is, can't compare to Ellsberg - Cohen !wikileaks !afterwikiMay 05 01:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] @fontana That's a very polite way to put it.May 05 01:14
Ender2070DaemonFC, Gaia?May 05 01:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @carwinb No one on the panel refutes number of cables released. Everyone is uses 250,000 !afterwiki < how to entrench doublethink #1984May 05 01:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @carwinb MS: Finally defends the ethics and release of documents. !afterwiki !wikileaksMay 05 01:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @kgosztola Want to see some great writing on !WikiLeaks? Go to @wl_central or check out @GregMitch at @thenation !afterwikiMay 05 01:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] okay I'm done now :DMay 05 01:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] [$] LWN.net Weekly Edition for May 5, 2011 http://lwn.net/Articles/440447/rssMay 05 01:19
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Ender2070Hey ForbesMay 05 01:22
Ender2070Opera/9.80 (Windows NT 6.1; U; en) Presto/2.8.131 Version/11.10.May 05 01:23
Ender2070I mentioned the OS beforeMay 05 01:23
Ender2070but I forgot to mention Opera, which is also proprietaryMay 05 01:23
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/70312732#notice-72685698May 05 01:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] bahahaha. "Snakes on an Astral Plane -- Coming soon to a dungeon near you" enscribed on DLVL1. !nethackMay 05 01:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] The Hunger Strikers of Guantanamo As Detailed in Files Released by WikiLeaks http://alturl.com/sxrb8May 05 01:31
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GoForbes28ender2070: Yeah, well if your running Windows, what the hell is the difference if you're running more proprietary software?May 05 01:33
GoForbes28When I switch to debian, it's iceweasel for meMay 05 01:34
GoForbes28However, on Windows, it doesn't really matterMay 05 01:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @stuartma: Sony PS fiasco infuriating. They demand *their* IP be locked down but apparently store customer data as plain textMay 05 01:34
GoForbes28people who use Free software on windows aren't Free software supportorsMay 05 01:34
GoForbes28They just like the programMay 05 01:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ ♻ @MMflint 8. As long as he wasn't conducting terror, OBL alive served a purpose.[...] The war industry needs fear to make $$May 05 01:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] RT @vanden Have you been !puzzled that there is no !puzzled group on identica? Be !puzzled no more.May 05 01:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] I find the timing of OBL assassinating interesting. Obama said they had known where he was for a while. Killed to bury Libya bloodbath news?May 05 01:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @schestowitz ♺ ♻ @MMflint 8. As long as he wasn't conducting terror, OBL alive served a purpose.[...] The war industry needs fear to ...May 05 01:36
GoForbes28Using Free software on Windows would be like an carnivore eating one salad once in awhile and saying they support animal rightsMay 05 01:36
GoForbes28BTW, Debian testing working pretty goodMay 05 01:36
Ender2070lolMay 05 01:37
Ender2070whats wrong with firefoxMay 05 01:37
DaemonFCwell, it's nice to see Firefox 4 using XRender at leastMay 05 01:42
DaemonFCOpera has done that for a long time thoughMay 05 01:42
DaemonFCmost Linux users can't use WebGL at all on Firefox 4May 05 01:42
GoForbes28On Windows, it butchered because of Direct2dMay 05 01:42
DaemonFCor accelerated canvasMay 05 01:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @wikileaks2 The Hunger Strikers of Guantanamo As Detailed in Files Released by WikiLeaks http://alturl.com/sxrb8May 05 01:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @evan RT @absinthiasm BBC article on France's legalization of #absinthe http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-13159863 http://fb.me/ ...May 05 01:42
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GoForbes28*it isMay 05 01:44
GoForbes28Windows 7 is a jokeMay 05 01:44
GoForbes28I love the arguements that say it is faster than XPMay 05 01:45
Ender2070of course it isMay 05 01:45
Ender2070that was my ideaMay 05 01:45
GoForbes28Cha-ching!May 05 01:45
Ender2070it is faster at turning your computer into an abacusMay 05 01:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @zoobab Linus Torvals: any solution will actually largely come from all the companies who are being hurt by the mess.. http://ur1.ca/42xo1May 05 01:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @heminder really impressed with the new awesomeness being put out by bands at !Jamendo these past few months!May 05 01:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] Join us and help reviewing add-ons! http://blog.mozilla.com/addons/2011/05/04/join-us-help-reviewing-add-ons/May 05 01:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] Cha-Cha-Changes in Web Production http://blog.mozilla.com/webdev/2011/05/04/cha-cha-changes-in-web-production/May 05 01:54
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DaemonFCWhat's new in Windows 7?May 05 02:00
DaemonFCThey put a 7 on the box!May 05 02:00
DaemonFCB-)May 05 02:00
schestowitzthe deskbarMay 05 02:01
schestowitznew IE iconMay 05 02:01
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/72687102May 05 02:02
TechrightsBot-tr@Richard Fontana (fontana)'s status on Thursday, 05-May-11 00:38:00 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz  No, I can only refer you to http://www.redhat.com/about/news/presskit/May 05 02:02
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schestowitzThat's why we need !wikileaks - everyone is being hurt while two companies conspire to keep a harmful deal secretMay 05 02:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @fontana That's why we need !wikileaks - everyone is being hurt while two companies conspire to keep a harmful deal secretMay 05 02:06
GoForbes28The deskbar is a meh thing for meMay 05 02:09
Ender2070mehMay 05 02:16
GoForbes28meh megMay 05 02:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @notveryalice !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!manuscript finished!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!May 05 02:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Obama must be the worst Muslim ever: Rejoicing on the death of another Muslim fellow. Shame on you Barack!May 05 02:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Obama deve ser o pior muçulmano que já existiu: festejando a morte de outro colega muçulmano. Que vergonha Barack!May 05 03:06
DaemonFCI love Colombia, they make two of my favorite thingsMay 05 03:11
DaemonFCand one of them is coffeeMay 05 03:11
DaemonFCB-)May 05 03:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @ubuntutwo FEATURE: Gnome 3 removes "Power Off" option from menu in bid to annoy more users than Ubuntu UnityMay 05 03:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bgiltrap/@bgiltrap] http://bit.ly/iffaao an example of #opensourcelite supposedly independent advice which puts #foss in a box to try and contain itMay 05 03:16
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DaemonFCWhy would you ever want to shut off your PC?May 05 03:18
DaemonFCLet's remove it, it would confuse peopleMay 05 03:18
DaemonFCschestowitz, I did use Unity for a day just to say I had used itMay 05 03:19
DaemonFCand my findings are that in some ways it is very well thought out and works very well and is very fastMay 05 03:20
DaemonFCbut it's not a good choice right now because there are obvious bad design choices like removing the system try and not replacing the system tray functionality in their indicator system in many popular applicationsMay 05 03:20
DaemonFCand also, Compiz is unstable and a lot of the plugins that it has either can't do anything at all in Unity or will break it in some wayMay 05 03:21
DaemonFCit still feels very much like beta softwareMay 05 03:21
DaemonFCmost of it works well, but the parts that don't are annoying, and add up to "I don't want to use it until it is fixed"May 05 03:22
DaemonFCwhich is not likely to happen in NattyMay 05 03:22
DaemonFCCanonical has taken a lot of heat over the years for not doing anything with the kernel except using it, and that is changing for the betterMay 05 03:23
DaemonFCyesterday a Canonical kernel team member stepped up and fixed a rather long standing and annoying bug in the radeon drm system and immediately went and got it upstreamed May 05 03:24
DaemonFCI hope we see more of thatMay 05 03:24
DaemonFCWhen you don't get things upstreamed you keep fixing the same problem over and over again. They finally get that I think.May 05 03:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Day Against DRM: Sharing & Collaboration is the long-term fix http://goo.gl/w7kdFMay 05 03:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Transistors go 3D as Intel re-invents the microchip http://ur1.ca/432uxMay 05 03:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] I hurt.May 05 04:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] RD @creativecommons Day Against DRM: Sharing & Collaboration is the long-term fix http://goo.gl/w7kdF #nodrm !dbdMay 05 04:06
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GoForbes28nothing for 13 minutes?  A travesty!May 05 04:21
enthymemeCall Eddie Izzard, he's an Executive Travesty.May 05 04:26
GoForbes28And here's another: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_S._ZafirovskiMay 05 04:28
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GoForbes28!google youtube nortel downfallMay 05 04:28
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - YouTube - Nortel Downfall | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DTe7za5upSWkMay 05 04:28
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - YouTube - Nortel Downfall Part 2 | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DUGpP3dtwtdwMay 05 04:28
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - YouTube - Nortel Downfall Part 3 | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3D3EqQrpep7aEMay 05 04:28
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Nortel Downfall « Nortel Insider – by Desk Jockey | http://nortelinsider.wordpress.com/2009/01/31/nortel-downfall/May 05 04:28
GoForbes28some of the best and sadly accurate hitler parodies I've ever seenMay 05 04:29
GoForbes28accurate in terms of the actual nortel eventsMay 05 04:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Remember the wear the Rubber Band -> Vote is Secret -> Vote for the Future of Singapore http://ur1.ca/43330 #sgelectionMay 05 05:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @evgenymorozov And the leader in high speed fiber broadband is... Lithuania http://ur1.ca/4334l !StopUBBMay 05 05:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Guardian: lawsuit will challenge the power of police to compile secret files on law-abiding protesters http://ur1.ca/4334x !privacy #1984May 05 05:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Good stuff. http://ur1.ca/4335o #sgelectionMay 05 05:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] http://xkcd.com/319/ .... uh oh... *stop getting sucked into webcomics* .... !procrastinatingMay 05 06:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @cyberkiller May The Fourth Be With You: Happy !StarWars Day! ur1.ca/42wkeMay 05 06:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] My Singapore: http://wp.me/pj2fj-ri #sgelectionMay 05 06:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Prisoner #0106 - A G20 Romp (2 Nights!) > live theatre ant !G20 mass asrrests > Stratford ON > http://ur1.ca/433ac http://ur1.ca/433alMay 05 06:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] is !linuxlibre ready for 2.6.39? deblob-* scripts updated to -rc6, please help test! http://ur1.ca/2p42jMay 05 06:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] TechBytes Audiocast – Episode 43 – 04/05/11 – “At home with Jono Bacon, Ubuntu Community Manager” http://tinyurl.com/5wr64xgMay 05 06:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] LINK: Protester to sue police over secret surveillance http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/may/03/protester-sue-police-secret-surveillanceMay 05 06:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] ♻ @robsanchez It's Time to Give Digital Rights Management the Boot http://is.gd/U9rK2b !DRM !FSFMay 05 06:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Off to work.May 05 07:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] night night !identiverseMay 05 07:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] This is a beautiful hardsuit. #lego http://ur1.ca/433itMay 05 07:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Oh joy, another day at what I lovingly call The Dump.May 05 07:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] !!May 05 07:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Metropolitan police are being grilled on the radio as to whether they have a culture of cover up and lack openness and transparency.May 05 07:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @MeeGoExperts: gPodder 2.15 “Night of Desirable Objects” released http://mge.bz/an #Maemo #Nokia #N900May 05 07:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @MeeGoExperts: How to Get Your MAC address on MeeGo http://mge.bz/ao #MeeGo #Developer #Intel #LinuxMay 05 07:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @MeeGoExperts: Qt 4.7.3 and Qt Mobility 1.1.3 have been released http://mge.bz/ae #Nokia #Meego #Symbian #Qt #Linux #DeveloperMay 05 07:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @MeeGoExperts: MeeGo Conference: T-SHIRT DESIGN CONTEST WINNER! http://mge.bz/ap #MeeGoConf #Linux #Intel #OpenSourceMay 05 07:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Metropolitan police representative says that all British police officers tell the truth.May 05 07:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♻ @atrent #moto #incidenti #responsabilita' Lasciò la sua auto in divieto di sosta condannata per concorso in omicid... http://b1t.it/iEdMay 05 07:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @tlaukkanen: Test Nelisquare app on your Nokia N900 http://bit.ly/nelisqpre #Foursquare #QtQuick #QMLMay 05 07:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @MeeGoExperts: RT @bobduffy No Angry Birds here, just happy frogs - developed in #Qt #QML for #MeeGo http://youtu.be/azSu24Ux9tcMay 05 07:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @ju_key: Just uploaded 'Basic usage hints for developers - MeeGo Tablet UI' to SlideShare. http://slidesha.re/laplxiMay 05 07:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Backing up network drive. I should do this more often. #datasecurityMay 05 07:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] "Maybe in a few months we can look back and laugh at all this." Sigh.May 05 08:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] [How To] Show currently playing track and album art on your lock screen http://is.gd/KPLIbS #N900 #MaemoMay 05 08:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Together with #IBM, #redhat makes #KVM the #winning virtualization platform. http://ur1.ca/433o9May 05 08:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Good luck on finals tomorrow, everyone!May 05 08:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] How To Die - http://bit.ly/ly9cTK nicely-written tribute to Derek K Miller - http://bit.ly/kLO9mZMay 05 08:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] /me hairpulls at being completely unable to build digikam 2.0 forever. Makes me think I can't cmake-fu any more ;(May 05 08:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win. We are at stage 3 I gather: https://expandedsupport.com/May 05 08:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @tlaukkanen: If someone is testing Nelisquare on Nokia N900, please note that Foursquare API is currently down http://twitpic.com/4tl4yuMay 05 08:24
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/72692140May 05 08:25
TechrightsBot-tr@Alexandre Oliva (lxoliva)'s status on Thursday, 05-May-11 02:20:54 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz that, plus US elections campaign, plus Guantanamo wikileaks that could let Osama know Obama knew where he was, plus?May 05 08:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] yet more paperwork this morning for immigrations; this time to get my house hold goods into the country. this stuff comes in waves, i swear.May 05 08:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] RT @nanday Amazing, the trouble you can get into just by writing your opinion down. Comments ignored when spoken cause grievances when w ...May 05 08:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[danebod/@danebod] Worldwide List on !Fracking groups (german) http://bit.ly/mhJtg6 !de !umwelt !green !ppd !klima !natureMay 05 08:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] RT @pepedopolous !kde used in !intel new transistor promo http://goo.gl/O9wBRMay 05 08:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @lxoliva @schestowitz that, plus US elections campaign, plus Guantanamo wikileaks that could let Osama know Obama knew where he was, plus?May 05 08:32
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schestowitz good point there. !wikipedia pointed out that it had shown where OBL was. So I guess eventually Wikileaks helped put an end to OBL.May 05 08:34
schestowitzhi, gde33May 05 08:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @lxoliva good point there. !wikipedia pointed out that it had shown where OBL was. So I guess eventually Wikileaks helped put an end to OBL.May 05 08:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] RT @pepedopolous !kde used in !intel new transistor promo http://goo.gl/O9wBRMay 05 08:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Mr. @bkuhn plays "good cop", making it look like other #mono critics somehow love it when people lose jobs. http://is.gd/6Rh25BMay 05 08:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] New Looks for Desktop #Linux http://is.gd/2eNgxT about #gnome. And then there's #xfce http://is.gd/7oqJyo #gnu #desktop #freedesktopMay 05 08:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Red Hat's thin client revival http://is.gd/bghBCH "Now Red Hat is hoping to give Linux on the desktop a boost" #redhat #desktop #gnu #linuxMay 05 08:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Worldwide List on Fracking groups http://bit.ly/mhJtg6 via @danebod. (List in German but usable and useful)May 05 08:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Debunking FUD: “Ubuntu restricts you, Ubuntu spies on you” http://is.gd/RgydYa #ubuntu a major player, gets scapegoated nowMay 05 08:47
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Debunking FUD: “Ubuntu restricts you, Ubuntu spies on you” « effiejayx’s blog .::. Size~: 95.35 KBMay 05 08:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Must start labelling AC adaptors. Gordion Knot of a lucky dip.May 05 08:49
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/72708445May 05 08:51
TechrightsBot-tr@Ryan Rix (rrix)'s status on Thursday, 05-May-11 07:47:18 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Uhm you guys have been cheering about it for two days now. Of course that's how it looks.May 05 08:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Hypocritical #Ballmer uses scare tactics against Google http://is.gd/wvZcDF while his employee @gartenberg uses "Nazi" propaganda vs GoogleMay 05 08:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] When #Microsoft tries to 'win' by telling people never to use the product of an "evil" competitor, it means Microsoft is losing badly. #fudMay 05 08:51
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schestowitzNobody cheering about #mono developers /fired/ (they did non-mono stuff too), we thought mono project collapsing was good.May 05 08:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @rrix Nobody cheering about #mono developers /fired/ (they did non-mono stuff too), we thought mono project collapsing was good.May 05 08:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The show notes of our interview with @jonobacon are out now http://is.gd/18QLXl !techbytesMay 05 08:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Oracle Donates Open Source #Hudson To Eclipse Foundation http://is.gd/fvL79N trying to get rid of the SCO in SCOracle?May 05 08:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The #Apache Software Foundation Subpoenaed to Produce Documents in Oracle America vs. #Google http://is.gd/jYIxs0 #scoracle #java #androidMay 05 09:01
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schestowitzhttp://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/browse_frm/thread/0778f44cc429c387#May 05 09:03
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schestowitzThe hogwashMay 05 09:03
schestowitzAnd he also promotes Mono nowMay 05 09:03
schestowitzThat always stinks a bitMay 05 09:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Sorry to say a Marxist on the radio is saying that there is no limit to human population and all living like we do in the west. #MalthusMay 05 09:04
schestowitzhttp://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/browse_frm/thread/0dba1d61c173bc75#May 05 09:05
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schestowitz"May 05 09:05
schestowitz> de Icaza is based in Boston, Massachusetts. There was no word onMay 05 09:05
schestowitz> what's happened to himMay 05 09:05
schestowitzHe's probably got an office next to his pal Ballmer by now. May 05 09:05
schestowitz"May 05 09:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "After the Software Wars" a "libertarian propaganda piece"? http://is.gd/vdsVC4 same guy promoted #monoMay 05 09:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Amen! ♻ @rahulsundaram: FHS Relaunch http://bit.ly/iwMd09 Dead since 2004 and now alive again. About freaking time.May 05 09:06
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schestowitzHmmm.. odd. http://www.directoryinventor.com/inventor/4e6957a7ae45d335f53bce424b25391f_1.htmlMay 05 09:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] "I just want to create Angry Birds." Love it! OpenShift and CloudForms http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/05/04/redhat_openshift_cloudforms/May 05 09:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laforge/@laforge] back to #berlin, back to getting real work done (still mostly #ss7 stuff).May 05 09:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] FWIW, I will be voting #YesToAV today - a gentleman only supports lost causes...May 05 09:12
MinceRgeekingsMay 05 09:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] It's..... FRI BBRBRRBRBRBBRBEWOB WBO WBO WOOBBB BRBBR FUN FUN FRBRBRBRMay 05 09:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Canonical Introduces 'Ubuntu Friendly' Open Hardware Validation Program http://is.gd/BoyQoh it's a #linux thing more than #ubuntuMay 05 09:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 20 Years of #Linux at the ForumPA, 9 May 2011, Rome http://is.gd/6MOwae "Open Source Focus Group for public administrations will run..."May 05 09:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Fedora 15 First impressions http://is.gd/XHyLEf "I was much more impressed with the new Fedora than I expected."May 05 09:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Welcome to KVM virtualization - Thorough introduction http://is.gd/OXKPrE #kvm #vm #redhat #linuxMay 05 09:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Linux Returns To #PS3 Through Custom Firmware Update http://is.gd/hzhsj1 Hotz stuff! #SCOny #ownedMay 05 09:22
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tessierWhat's gotten into Oracle lately?May 05 09:23
tessierFirst they give in on OO.org and nwo they want to make Hudson an Eclipse foundation project?May 05 09:23
schestowitzmaybe PRMay 05 09:23
schestowitzBut did you see the subpoena stuff?May 05 09:23
tessierNo...May 05 09:24
schestowitzMaybe they got bad karma and saw lossesMay 05 09:24
schestowitzthey subpoenaed ASFMay 05 09:24
tessierOh? For what?May 05 09:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Linux Game Publishing...are alive?http://is.gd/c7RNDQ "It's nice to see at least someone letting us know they aren't actually dead"May 05 09:24
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schestowitz http://is.gd/jYIxs0 May 05 09:24
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tessierWeird.May 05 09:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] There is a grave here. Something is engraved here on the headstone. You read: "Mutjny, killed by a manes". !nethackMay 05 09:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Three Alternatives To Unity For #Ubuntu 11.04 http://is.gd/Go4xe0 http://is.gd/6QqGjWMay 05 09:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] RT @openbytes TechBytes Audiocast – Episode 43 – 04/05/11 – “At home with Jono Bacon, Ubuntu Community Manager” http://tinyurl.com/5wr64xgMay 05 09:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #antiX M11 is Still Quite Impressive http://is.gd/Qra7Si http://is.gd/Df29Cq http://is.gd/EJvES5 #debian #mepis #gnu #linuxMay 05 09:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] !techbytes server getting hit hard average download 16kB/secMay 05 09:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Commerce Department Releases Useless, Biased Report On #Trademark Bullying - http://bit.ly/mKV1Gc interesting stuff on "duty to police"May 05 09:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Commerce Department Releases Useless, Biased Report On Trademark Bullying | Techdirt .::. Size~: 42.37 KBMay 05 09:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Red Hat, Inc. And IBM Corporation Announces Partnership http://is.gd/Qa3Xpf #RedHatMay 05 09:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] CNET Accused of #Copyright Infringement for Distributing LimeWire - http://bit.ly/kZTEoJ dangerous precedentMay 05 09:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] TLD, aka Predator, Could be an Open Source Alternative to #Kinect - http://rww.to/lJBlfR looks promising #opensourceMay 05 09:57
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/72712048May 05 09:58
TechrightsBot-tr@satipera (satipera)'s status on Thursday, 05-May-11 08:51:44 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Don't know if it is you or me but TB download slow then crashed.May 05 09:58
schestowitzThe server is not overloaded at the moment.May 05 09:58
schestowitz When we do video, Google will serve as a mirror.May 05 09:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Haven't used !identicurse for a while, fancy a change today.May 05 10:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Hollywood presses European Parliament to sign #ACTA - http://bit.ly/mzAcQg how about we tell Hollywood to get lost? #euMay 05 10:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Wellcome Trust urges universities to take leadership in open scientific publishing - http://bit.ly/lp1k7h more nice moves from #wellcome #oaMay 05 10:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Go team a... :(May 05 10:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Golf in #India - http://bit.ly/iTbige rather nice (assuming it's not a fake)May 05 10:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] I am worry because India has dark blue color in this map - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ongoing_conflictsMay 05 10:14
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schestowitzhttp://www.xbitlabs.com/news/other/display/20110426213536_Oracle_May_Cease_Support_of_Popular_Linux_Distributives_Too.htmlMay 05 10:15
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schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/72712770May 05 10:25
TechrightsBot-tr@satipera (satipera)'s status on Thursday, 05-May-11 09:04:28 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Okay, ty. I will have another go. 2 x I have had source can't be read 1/2 way through.May 05 10:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Poll: Patents and innovation http://is.gd/hiYxt1May 05 10:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Mark Shuttleworth talks Windicators, changes for !Unity in Oneiric, and whole lot more… http://ping.fm/bkyiuMay 05 10:26
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MinceRooh, windicatorsMay 05 10:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[firefoxmilestones/@firefoxmilestones] #Firefox4 reached 138 million downloads on 2011-05-05 09:32 UTCMay 05 10:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !Android increases smartphone market leadership - Smart Gorillas http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&fd=R&usg=AFQjCNFlgyAFLiP1vvwYPp2ERkcfQMay 05 10:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[docufoundation/@docufoundation] RT @floeff Next LibreOffice Marketing ConfCall on Tuesday - open for everyone! http://is.gd/d5tqYy !libo !tdfMay 05 10:37
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DaemonFCMinceR talks MinceRcatorsMay 05 10:43
DaemonFCcatchy, don't you think?May 05 10:43
DaemonFCMinceR, when do you think the next version of proprietary Canonical system tray you can't right click on will be?May 05 10:44
DaemonFCB-)May 05 10:44
DaemonFCremember them excusing their proprietary notification daemon as "implementing a freedesktop.org standard"?May 05 10:46
DaemonFCthat was a hootMay 05 10:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Apple updates the #iPad & #iPhone to stop user tracking, which they defiantly told the world it wasn't doing before http://is.gd/hGbE9NMay 05 10:46
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DaemonFCsince when did freedesktop.org go insane and mandate that there can't be something like a "reply" button on a notification that I got an instant message?May 05 10:46
DaemonFCor that it should disappear without a trace if I'm away from the computer?May 05 10:47
DaemonFCI have never seen this alleged specificationMay 05 10:47
DaemonFCI argue that it doesn't exist May 05 10:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Revolutionary new paper computer shows flexible future for smartphones and tablets http://ping.fm/8rUp1May 05 10:47
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DaemonFCIt's built for retards otherwise their site wouldn't try to define what an operating system isMay 05 10:49
DaemonFCor refer to Windows as a PCMay 05 10:49
DaemonFCIt's funny that they call Unity their desktop environment, they didn't really build it, they just scavenged through bits and pieces of GNOME and reassembled them with a few bits and pieces of theirsMay 05 10:51
DaemonFCMinceR, It's not consistent and it doesn't work right. They have GNOME's system tray, but only applications THEY whitelist can use itMay 05 10:52
DaemonFCeverything else just breaksMay 05 10:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] how many other companies push software updates to their applications to fix problems it didn't have? how many make the mainstream news?May 05 10:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Shuttleworth does not dismiss advertising in Ubuntu. First time I see advertising in it will be the last time I use it. http://is.gd/zQTtM3May 05 10:52
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DaemonFCso Transmission is whitelisted, it can use the system trayMay 05 10:53
DaemonFCsystem-config-printer is not, so you plug in your printer and there's no printer appletMay 05 10:53
DaemonFCxchat isn't, so you close it out of habit and it shuts down xchat May 05 10:53
DaemonFCso you say "Aha, there's an xchat indicator!"May 05 10:54
DaemonFCnext time you close it you figure it's still running in the message indicator, like Empathy and Pidgin doMay 05 10:54
DaemonFCso you click that to bring it back up, and it actually opens a second instance of xchat (the first one is really invisible and there's no way to get rid of it short of a kill -9 because it thinks it is in the system tray)May 05 10:55
DaemonFC:)May 05 10:55
DaemonFCin the mean time, if anyone highlights or PMs you in the invisible xchat, it's lost foreverMay 05 10:55
DaemonFCUnity just works SO well, doesn't it? :)May 05 10:55
DaemonFCUbuntu VistaMay 05 10:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] #Oracle Ordered to Reduce Claims Against !Google From 132 to 3 !android http://ping.fm/tATPwMay 05 10:56
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DaemonFCand all this hilarity is going on in between crashesMay 05 10:59
DaemonFCit crashes about once every hourMay 05 10:59
DaemonFCby crash I don't mean, it crashes and recovers, I mean it locks up your video card and freezes the kernelMay 05 11:01
DaemonFCHow do you recover? Hold down the power button!May 05 11:01
schestowitz</a>May 05 11:01
DaemonFCUbuntu VistaMay 05 11:01
schestowitzAkamai being assesMay 05 11:01
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/#!/Patent_Nerd/status/61094146538078208May 05 11:02
TechrightsBot-tr@Patent_Nerd: Fed. Cir. to address joint infringement en banc (Akamai)  http://www.cafc.uscourts.gov/images/stories/opinions-orders/2009-1372%20order.pdfMay 05 11:02
TechrightsBot-trNot a web page! Aborting application/pdf typeMay 05 11:02
DaemonFCoh, and Ubuntu has no good joystick calibration software, you know, something that worksMay 05 11:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Wow. I'll do a casting for a TV reporter job tomorrow... oOMay 05 11:02
DaemonFCso even though the kernel recognizes my XBOX 360 controller, there was no way to callibrate it May 05 11:03
DaemonFCKDE has joystick calibration as a control panel applet May 05 11:03
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DaemonFCso I gave up and figured out the corrections myself for the program I use the xbox controller with (a Sega Genesis emulator)May 05 11:04
DaemonFCnext time I reboot the system, the corrections I entered no longer worked rightMay 05 11:04
DaemonFCUbuntu VistaMay 05 11:04
Lin_user1hiMay 05 11:04
schestowitzhiMay 05 11:04
DaemonFCevery time you think you've outsmarted it, it comes back for revengeMay 05 11:04
DaemonFCUbuntu VistaMay 05 11:04
DaemonFCB-)May 05 11:04
Lin_user1I want to thank you for you work :)May 05 11:04
Lin_user1I heard the good news about monoMay 05 11:05
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/72715140May 05 11:05
TechrightsBot-tr@satipera (satipera)'s status on Thursday, 05-May-11 09:48:18 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Yes it was my end, relogged and ogg steamed in first time.May 05 11:05
schestowitzLin_user1: thanksMay 05 11:05
schestowitzBTWMay 05 11:05
schestowitzPawel, right?May 05 11:05
Lin_user1yep :)May 05 11:05
DaemonFCschestowitz, Even KDE 4.0 was better than Unity May 05 11:05
schestowitzWas it you who drew attention to KeithCurtis in Kernel ML?May 05 11:05
schestowitz"After the Software Wars" a "libertarian propaganda piece"? http://is.gd/vdsVC4 same guy promoted #monoMay 05 11:06
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DaemonFCat least when KDE's window manager goes down it doesn't lock up the GPUMay 05 11:06
Lin_user1no, I didn't post at lkml about mono except I sent an email to some mono boosterMay 05 11:06
schestowitzI don't like it when under heavy load kde duspends kwin effectsMay 05 11:06
schestowitzBut maybe it's essential sometimesMay 05 11:06
DaemonFCUnity locks up the GPU, panics the kernel, and takes out some of your open files with shrapnel May 05 11:06
schestowitzLin_user1: maybe it was nother pawel...May 05 11:07
schestowitzThe one who spoke about zfs dev badmouthing linuxMay 05 11:07
Lin_user1maybe, have you a link, maybe?May 05 11:07
DaemonFCschestowitz, I've never had that happenMay 05 11:07
Lin_user1then it was me :)May 05 11:07
schestowitzLin_user1: not at the moment, offhandMay 05 11:07
schestowitzKeith Curtis posted some long message to lkml about rewriting with non-C langMay 05 11:08
schestowitzLike monoMay 05 11:08
Lin_user1I was talking about Bonwicks fud etc.May 05 11:08
DaemonFCschestowitz, The only time I've had kwin suspend the compositor when I didn't tell it to was when I was trying something that ended up crashing it a few times. Eventually it stops trying to recover and just suspends it, rather than giving you a string of core dumps and open "kwin has crashed" windowsMay 05 11:08
DaemonFC:)May 05 11:08
schestowitzNow he writes some Linux-hostile pieces for TomsHardware on occassionsMay 05 11:08
Lin_user1I'm not Keith May 05 11:08
schestowitzI don't trust him, I used to reply to himMay 05 11:08
schestowitzLin_user1: never did I say soMay 05 11:09
schestowitzI said you said he had promoted this in lkmlMay 05 11:09
schestowitzand he also put the same thing in his blogMay 05 11:09
Lin_user1wait, I sent him an emailMay 05 11:09
schestowitzSo essentially he dumps copies of his blog in lkmlMay 05 11:09
DaemonFCschestowitz, Vala is pretty C#-ish, but it has the advantage of just being a preprocessor that "compiles" down to CMay 05 11:09
schestowitzBand Microsoft must be sadMay 05 11:09
schestowitzThey are losing MonoMay 05 11:10
schestowitzI still get some abuse from Mono boosters todayMay 05 11:10
DaemonFCso you're really using C and Vala hides some of the ugliness from youMay 05 11:10
DaemonFCwhich is nice May 05 11:10
schestowitzBut they'll get over it soonMay 05 11:10
DaemonFCless learning curve if you already know C#May 05 11:10
Lin_user1I was little confused for a moment, but now I remember :)May 05 11:10
schestowitzhe got told off for it back thenMay 05 11:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #wikileaks: US “Crusade” on Harm Reduction - http://bit.ly/ifFEbx rare kudos to UK for fighting this absurd moralism (v @TransformDrugs)May 05 11:11
DaemonFCC is broad enough and low level enough that it's pretty easy to implement a higher level language on top of itMay 05 11:11
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schestowitzthey talk about developing linux and suddenly some former Microsoft employee jumps in with wall of textMay 05 11:11
Lin_user1this Keith is probably some m$ fanboyMay 05 11:11
schestowitzHe's a mysterious oneMay 05 11:11
schestowitz!google keigh curtis ballmer distribution of linuxMay 05 11:12
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Linux Will Kill Windows, Says Former Microsoftie | PCWorld ... | http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/181640/linux_will_kill_windows_says_former_microsoftie.htmlMay 05 11:12
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Linux Needs to Master Hardware to Beat Windows | http://www.tomshardware.com/news/linux-ubuntu-windows-keith-curtis,9496.htmlMay 05 11:12
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Linux Needs to Master Hardware to Beat Windows | http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/linux-ubuntu-windows-keith-curtis,news-32627.htmlMay 05 11:12
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - WayneBoyd.Com Home - Family, Forums, PHP and Fun | http://www.wayneboyd.com/index.phpMay 05 11:12
schestowitzI can't find itMay 05 11:12
Lin_user1it seems he's ms evangelistMay 05 11:12
schestowitzIDG posted something about him asking Ballmer to make a Linux distroMay 05 11:12
schestowitzWHich made me think, WHAT?!May 05 11:12
schestowitzLin_user1: see http://is.gd/vdsVC4 May 05 11:12
Lin_user1good joke :DMay 05 11:12
TechrightsBot-trTitle: comp.os.linux.advocacy |   Google Groups .::. Size~: 41.08 KBMay 05 11:12
Lin_user1thanksMay 05 11:12
schestowitzI didn't read his book, just opened it for a glanceMay 05 11:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] @fabsh Cool! Good luck!May 05 11:12
schestowitzThis reminds me of Laura/Jeniffer Endstrom bokMay 05 11:13
schestowitzWhere they spills ome beans but also do revisionism about antitrustMay 05 11:13
schestowitzPoor Microsoft being just the victim... of big bad DOJ/FTCMay 05 11:13
schestowitzSo you need to pick the bits you like and spot the revisionism/PR along the wayMay 05 11:14
schestowitzI once leanred about this technique journalists useMay 05 11:14
Lin_user1thanksfully mono seems to be dying nowMay 05 11:14
schestowitzMake very pro-Linux headline, then fill article with pro-Microsoft junk, or vice versaMay 05 11:14
schestowitzE.g. make Microsoft-hostile headlineMay 05 11:14
Lin_user1typical PRMay 05 11:14
schestowitzThen fill the article with Microsoft praiseMay 05 11:14
schestowitzIt's for capturing the 'non-choir' crowdMay 05 11:15
Lin_user1yesMay 05 11:15
schestowitzSo here the theory applies that a book for 'FOSS people' is actually something that can change their feelings towards MicrosoftMay 05 11:15
schestowitz"Microsoft employees are our friends, etc."May 05 11:15
Lin_user1this one is good! May 05 11:16
schestowitz!google gartner VIsta collapsingMay 05 11:16
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Gartner Says Vista Will Collapse. And That's Why The Yahoo Deal ... | http://techcrunch.com/2008/04/11/gartner-says-vista-will-collapse-and-thats-why-the-yahoo-deal-must-happen/May 05 11:16
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Gartner: Windows is Collapsing Microsoft Windows OS Usage - NT ... | http://www.webmasterworld.com/microsoft_windows_os/3623988.htmMay 05 11:16
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Windows is 'collapsing,' Gartner analysts warn - Computerworld | http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9076698/Windows_is_collapsing_Gartner_analysts_warnMay 05 11:16
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Windows Collapsing Under Its Own Weight - Gartner - Seeking Alpha | http://seekingalpha.com/article/71741-windows-collapsing-under-its-own-weight-gartnerMay 05 11:16
DaemonFCDon't run, we are your friends!May 05 11:16
schestowitzThen you read what they sayMay 05 11:16
Lin_user1I consider ms employer are our worst enemiesMay 05 11:16
DaemonFCWe come in peace!May 05 11:16
schestowitzAnd they advertise VIsta 7May 05 11:16
schestowitzNotice they promoted VistaMay 05 11:16
schestowitzBut when Vista 7 was coming only *then* they started badmouthing VistaMay 05 11:16
Lin_user1and want to kill Linux,May 05 11:16
schestowitzLousy voice-for-saleMay 05 11:16
Lin_user1there are some morons who believe themMay 05 11:17
DaemonFCschestowitz, They still use the MVP program a lot like they did when I was oneMay 05 11:17
schestowitzThey don't want to kill Linux :-0)May 05 11:17
schestowitzThey want to tax itMay 05 11:17
DaemonFCsend out free advance copies of all their new stuffMay 05 11:17
Lin_user1trueMay 05 11:17
schestowitzAsk KeithCu about itMay 05 11:17
schestowitzAsk him about patentsMay 05 11:17
schestowitzMicrosofters shy away from thatMay 05 11:17
DaemonFCalong with a list of talking points to give out as answers to the questions they figure people will ask youMay 05 11:17
Lin_user1ms should pay taxes for making a broken by design systemMay 05 11:17
schestowitzAsk Apple about freedom :-)May 05 11:17
schestowitz!google bar guru apple fsfMay 05 11:18
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - The What, Why and When of Free Software in India | Linux Journal | http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/8675May 05 11:18
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Android vs. iPhone 4 Signal Strength Bars Comparison - Slashdot | http://apple.slashdot.org/article.pl%3Fsid%3D10/07/03/1836257May 05 11:18
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Inside Mac OS X 10.7 Lion Server: Apple replaces Samba for Windows ... | http://forums.appleinsider.com/showthread.php%3Ft%3D121142%26page%3D2May 05 11:18
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Fantasy and Science Fiction: Book Reviews by James Sallis | http://www.sfsite.com/fsf/2010/js1007.htmMay 05 11:18
schestowitz!google freedom guru apple fsfMay 05 11:18
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Apple vs. GPL, Round One | Dr Dobb's Journal | http://drdobbs.com/blogs/open-source/228701416May 05 11:18
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - FSF position on GPLv2 & current App Store terms | http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2010/11/04/fsf-position-on-gplv2-current-app-store-terms/May 05 11:18
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Understanding The Free Software Philosophy | http://playingwithsid.blogspot.com/2008/01/understanding-free-software-philosophy.htmlMay 05 11:18
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - FSF to Google: Free Gmail's JavaScript now! • The Register | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/03/31/free_software_foundation_wants_gmail_javascript_open_sourced/May 05 11:18
schestowitzDDOSing Apple 'priests'May 05 11:18
schestowitzCan't find it nowMay 05 11:18
DaemonFCthey sent me out an internal build of the first WMA encoderMay 05 11:18
*barnieg has quit (Quit: Leaving.)May 05 11:18
DaemonFCit was better than MP3 onyl because the MP3 encoders were so awful at that timeMay 05 11:19
schestowitzWMA is not just a wrapper?May 05 11:19
Lin_user1apple is almost as bad as msMay 05 11:19
schestowitzenclosure for the most part?May 05 11:19
DaemonFCschestowitz, Internally, the format is similar to AACMay 05 11:19
schestowitzLin_user1: Apple distorts the law lessMay 05 11:19
schestowitzI can't think of much Apple lobybing TBHMay 05 11:19
Lin_user1yes, but they have more powerfull prMay 05 11:20
schestowitzGore & Apple cult http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/apple/8484268/Al-Gore-joins-ex-Apple-engineers-to-reinvent-the-e-book.htmlMay 05 11:20
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Al Gore joins ex-Apple engineers to reinvent the e-book - Telegraph .::. Size~: 71.43 KBMay 05 11:20
schestowitzLin_user1: so we can ridicule themMay 05 11:20
schestowitzIt's less harmful than lawsuits IMHOMay 05 11:20
Lin_user1rightMay 05 11:20
DaemonFCschestowitz, There are some free software (kind of, they still depend on ISO reference code) tools for AACMay 05 11:20
schestowitzI love to show people how foolish their iSomethings areMay 05 11:20
DaemonFCbut nothing truly freeMay 05 11:20
DaemonFCand ISO demo code is broken and shittyMay 05 11:20
DaemonFC:)May 05 11:21
schestowitzE.g. by showing them much better things I use... and explaining why their rubbish makes their ego inflated and productivity lowMay 05 11:21
Lin_user1I wonder what will happen with OpenSuse nowMay 05 11:21
schestowitzApple is good for me... when other people use itMay 05 11:21
schestowitzIt makes them incapable of using their bran and skillMay 05 11:21
schestowitzLin_user1: yesMay 05 11:21
Lin_user1icrap users are funnyMay 05 11:21
DaemonFCIf Vorbis didn't exist we'd probably have some free but patent encumbered AAC encoder that is better than all the rest but still taxed by MPEG-LA if you want to use it as anything but a toyMay 05 11:22
schestowitzOpenSUSE is angry at me for saying attachMSFT avoids naming OPENsuseMay 05 11:22
schestowitzLin_user1: don't laugh at the handicappedMay 05 11:22
Lin_user1:)May 05 11:22
schestowitzThe other day at the gym there was this prof I knew for ages and he asked aout hypePad2May 05 11:22
schestowitzHe basically went with PRMay 05 11:22
DaemonFCi spy with my little i......something that is overpriced and sold to aging hippies and emo teenagersMay 05 11:23
Lin_user1there are some good people at OpenSuse who didn't like mono and who decided to make KDE default DEMay 05 11:23
schestowitzThen you ask people like him what they would do with itMay 05 11:23
schestowitzAnd it turns out he'd be better off with a PDA like mineMay 05 11:23
schestowitzBut they want the status symbolMay 05 11:23
schestowitzLin_user1: do you know their names?May 05 11:23
schestowitzThey could not say it out loudly while working under Novell's wingMay 05 11:23
DaemonFCschestowitz, I'm going to be rich some day when I invent emo lawn May 05 11:23
Lin_user1I can check the mlMay 05 11:23
DaemonFCgenetically engineered grass that cuts itselfMay 05 11:24
schestowitzAlthough Mono=Mass., SUSE=NurembergMay 05 11:24
DaemonFCthen I can sue people that didn't buy it when some seeds land in their yardMay 05 11:24
DaemonFCB-)May 05 11:24
schestowitzhttp://www.techeye.net/software/attachmate-lays-off-mono-staffMay 05 11:24
schestowitz"It is not clear if Miguel has been sentenced to Nuremburg, but pulling apart his team like that must miff him somewhat."May 05 11:24
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Attachmate lays off Mono staff - Open Saucers let go   | TechEye .::. Size~: 22.34 KBMay 05 11:24
Lin_user1I'll be awf for a momentMay 05 11:24
schestowitzI think Ballmer has just farted in Miguel's soupMay 05 11:25
DaemonFCschestowitz, Maybe he'll quit spamming Planet GNOME with "news" about Mono on hypedevicesMay 05 11:25
schestowitzHeheMay 05 11:25
DaemonFChe hasn't written a single line of code for GNOME in yearsMay 05 11:25
schestowitzTrying to iPaint MonoMay 05 11:25
DaemonFCwhy do they put up with him?May 05 11:25
schestowitzIt's mono... Mac... hypePhone.May 05 11:25
schestowitzMonoTouch Me!May 05 11:25
schestowitz!google touch me ockyMay 05 11:26
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Rocky Horror Picture Show Albums Torrent Download | http://torrentz.eu/1652f44bcf06f8d3c4cabb571829a5952da0001bMay 05 11:26
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - facts about The Rocky Horror Picture Show - True Knowledge | http://www.trueknowledge.com/q/facts_about__the_rocky_horror_picture_showMay 05 11:26
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Rocky Balboa - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rocky_BalboaMay 05 11:26
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - R OCKY VISTA R OCKY VISTA | http://www.rockyvistauniversity.org/PDFs/SP_Garfein-Joshua.pdfMay 05 11:26
DaemonFCschestowitz,  don't monotouch me there, you're not my iPriest!May 05 11:26
DaemonFC*slap*May 05 11:26
schestowitzObjective is the language of the Holy BibbbleMay 05 11:26
schestowitzObjective CMay 05 11:26
schestowitzCoz Steve sez soMay 05 11:27
schestowitz!google steve jobs fired from appleMay 05 11:27
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Steve Jobs - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_JobsMay 05 11:27
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - The History of the Apple Macintosh - Steve Jobs and Steve Wozniak | http://inventors.about.com/library/weekly/aa051599.htmMay 05 11:27
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - 'Why I fired Steve Jobs' - The Week | http://theweek.com/article/index/203796/why-i-fired-steve-jobsMay 05 11:27
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - How Steve Jobs Was Fired From Apple and Entered His Life's Best ... | http://www.good2work.com/article/4087May 05 11:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Geek & Poke: Time Has Changed http://goo.gl/OWxxzMay 05 11:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Geek And Poke: Time Has Changed .::. Size~: 42.77 KBMay 05 11:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Allan Day - !GNOME marketing contract: final report http://goo.gl/mCV6CMay 05 11:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle: GNOME marketing contract: final report | afaik .::. Size~: 24.41 KBMay 05 11:29
DaemonFCschestowitz, GCC supports Objective CMay 05 11:30
schestowitzhttp://www.groklaw.net/newsitems.php?page=2 "[PJ: I told you I thought it was just a bug, not intentional, from what I saw in my research. One thing Apple has a good record on is privacy.]"May 05 11:30
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Groklaw - Digging for Truth .::. Size~: 31.06 KBMay 05 11:30
schestowitzShame on Pj for this oneMay 05 11:31
schestowitzOnce again promoting AppleMay 05 11:31
schestowitzAs she did with the Gore articleMay 05 11:31
MinceRback to business as usual for her, thenMay 05 11:32
MinceRi thought she said she's quittingMay 05 11:32
schestowitzApple good with privacy?May 05 11:33
schestowitz!google hypepad buyers list leaksMay 05 11:33
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - 2010 September 18 | Techrights | http://techrights.org/2010/09/18/May 05 11:33
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - 2010 April 09 | Techrights | http://techrights.org/2010/04/09/May 05 11:33
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - 2010 June 03 | Techrights | http://techrights.org/2010/06/03/May 05 11:33
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Cites & Insights: Crawford at Large | http://citesandinsights.info/civ10ix.pdfMay 05 11:33
schestowitzoopsMay 05 11:33
schestowitzI made a habit of mistyping itMay 05 11:33
schestowitz!google ipad buyers list leaksMay 05 11:33
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - iPad 2s suffering from backlight leaks | Electronista | http://www.electronista.com/articles/11/03/22/buyers.complain.of.multiple.faulty.replacements/May 05 11:33
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - AT&T Takes Heat for iPad Who's-Who List Leak | http://www.ecommercetimes.com/story/70182.htmlMay 05 11:33
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - List of Approved Apple iPad Apps Leaks | News & Opinion | PCMag.com | http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2361858,00.aspMay 05 11:33
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - 114000 iPad 3G owner's personal information leaked - Apple iPad Forum | http://www.ipadforums.net/user-news-submissions/4894-114-000-ipad-3g-owners-personal-information-leaked.htmlMay 05 11:33
schestowitzThey learned fro SCOnyMay 05 11:34
schestowitzThis time it's the Goatse 'analysts'May 05 11:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Filed a bug on digikam's inability to build. let's see if we can break this perpetuations that bundling libraries is OK. http://ur1.ca/434gmMay 05 11:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Bug 272522 - Digikam cannot compile from source code .::. Size~: 26.47 KBMay 05 11:34
MinceRgoatse is anal indeedMay 05 11:34
Lin_user1[12:24] <DaemonFC> schestowitz, Maybe he'll quit spamming Planet GNOME with "news" about Mono on hypedevicesMay 05 11:35
Lin_user1he should be kicked long ago from the PlanetMay 05 11:35
Lin_user1he did nothing, but advertised mono and msMay 05 11:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] WikiLeaks’ Julian Assange: Facebook an ‘appalling spying machine’ http://is.gd/jp87QF #privacy #cia #fbi #intelligence #foolsluckMay 05 11:36
schestowitz!google stallman planet monlightMay 05 11:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: WikiLeaks’ Julian Assange: Facebook an ‘appalling spying machine’ .::. Size~: 39.25 KBMay 05 11:36
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Reader's Article: Alternate Time-lines | Techrights | http://techrights.org/2010/01/16/alternate-time-lines/May 05 11:36
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - iTWire - GNOME: the cowboy project | http://www.itwire.com/opinion-and-analysis/open-sauce/15864-gnome-the-cowboy-projectMay 05 11:36
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - GNOME and the GNU Project « The-Source.com | http://www.the-source.com/2009/12/gnome-and-the-gnu-project/May 05 11:36
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Glib y Richard Stallman, Ibero León 2008 parte II « Hackob# | http://frenesssi.wordpress.com/2008/10/02/glib-y-richard-stallman-ibero-leon-2008-parte-ii/May 05 11:36
DaemonFChe's just a spammer that crapfloods Planet GNOME and makes it unreadableMay 05 11:36
DaemonFCand if you ask him to stop he jsut tells you to ignore himMay 05 11:36
Lin_user1exactlyMay 05 11:36
MinceRperhaps the ones in charge approve of itMay 05 11:36
Lin_user1I wonder why they didn't kick him outMay 05 11:37
Lin_user1MinceR: that's the pointMay 05 11:37
schestowitz!google de icaza gentoo "eternally broken"May 05 11:37
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Novell is Rapidly Losing GroupWise Business | Techrights | http://techrights.org/2010/01/15/novell-loses-mail-contracts/May 05 11:37
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - 2010 January 15 | Techrights | http://techrights.org/2010/01/15/May 05 11:37
MinceR:>May 05 11:37
DaemonFCmaybe losing the entire Mono team will shut him upMay 05 11:37
schestowitzhe also spreads the Linux 1% market share talking pointMay 05 11:37
DaemonFChe can take a job at MicrosoftMay 05 11:37
Lin_user1he works for ms, isn't he? :)May 05 11:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] the digikam developers don't/can't realize that forcing users to use this "software compilation" that bundles a bunch of libs IS BAD... :\May 05 11:37
Lin_user1or worked ;)May 05 11:38
DaemonFCand stop pretending to care about open source software, free software, Linux, or anything non-Microsoft May 05 11:38
DaemonFChe cares about free software in the sense that it's a delivery tool for his Mono runtime May 05 11:38
DaemonFCthat's about itMay 05 11:38
Lin_user1trueMay 05 11:39
schestowitz"Again, I think those guys are just Microsoft persons who take a pride not to be on their payroll. (DeIcaza told me in the past that hefs rich)." http://techrights.org/2007/12/06/ooxml-gnome-debate/May 05 11:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Quick Mention: OOXML/GNOME Podcast Finally Online, Text Summary Posted | Techrights .::. Size~: 104.12 KBMay 05 11:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] And unfortunately, that's going to mean that many distros simply won't/can't ship digikam 2.0, which is a fucking crying shame.May 05 11:39
Lin_user1I was talking to some gnome related persons from Novell afaik about ms ooxml issueMay 05 11:40
Lin_user1they were telling me there were no issueMay 05 11:40
Lin_user1which isn't trueMay 05 11:40
schestowitzsuperbMay 05 11:40
Lin_user1thanksfully many people knows about thisMay 05 11:41
DaemonFCall office formats are evil May 05 11:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "...Microsoft persons who take a pride not to be on their payroll. (DeIcaza told me in the past that he’s rich)." http://is.gd/BEuBC5 #monoMay 05 11:41
DaemonFCOOXML is just more evilMay 05 11:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Quick Mention: OOXML/GNOME Podcast Finally Online, Text Summary Posted | Techrights .::. Size~: 104.12 KBMay 05 11:41
Lin_user1ms ooxml should die with monoMay 05 11:41
schestowitzooxml is more evilMay 05 11:41
schestowitzit pretends to be openMay 05 11:42
schestowitzWhen it's the oppositeMay 05 11:42
Lin_user1yes and it's terribly documentedMay 05 11:42
schestowitzThe only thing worse than being evil is being evil and pretending to be saintMay 05 11:42
schestowitzLin_user1: too lateMay 05 11:42
schestowitzIt's a bundle dealMay 05 11:42
schestowitzSilver Lie tooMay 05 11:42
schestowitzThey helped market Silver Lie as cross-platform and 'open'May 05 11:42
schestowitzThat's a lie which is worth billions to MicrosoftMay 05 11:43
*barnie2 (~barnie@82-69-11-217.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk) has joined #techrightsMay 05 11:43
Lin_user1there's a need for pro-Linux sites like yoursMay 05 11:43
Lin_user1Linux companies and foundations should make a clear statements about ms techsMay 05 11:43
barnie2morning allMay 05 11:43
DaemonFCOOXML is documented pretty well really, in fact if Microsoft would just use the version they documented, a lot of problems would just go away B-)May 05 11:43
DaemonFCheheMay 05 11:43
Lin_user1and they should simply reject themMay 05 11:43
Lin_user1DaemonFC: haha exactlyMay 05 11:44
Lin_user1barnie2: hiMay 05 11:44
schestowitzhttp://legaltimes.typepad.com/blt/2011/05/nra-drops-king-spalding-as-clement-fallout-continues.htmlMay 05 11:45
TechrightsBot-trTitle: NRA Drops King & Spalding as Clement Fallout Continues - The BLT: The Blog of Legal Times .::. Size~: 91.52 KBMay 05 11:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Oracle Ordered to Reduce Claims Against #Google From 132 to 3 - http://bit.ly/mew4pY not sure if this is good or bad... #patentsMay 05 11:47
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Groklaw - Oracle Ordered to Reduce Claims Against Google From 132 to 3 .::. Size~: 27.55 KBMay 05 11:47
schestowitzPj links to this a year late: http://www.the-source.com/2010/08/rms-on-microsoft-sponsorship/May 05 11:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: RMS on Microsoft sponsorship « The-Source.com .::. Size~: 44.55 KBMay 05 11:49
schestowitzI wonder why Jason doesn't bl0og anymoreMay 05 11:49
schestowitzNot in mono-nono and not in the-source, eitherMay 05 11:50
schestowitzHe posted some excellent stuff at the timeMay 05 11:50
MinceRthere's already an existing standard for what OOXML is supposed to aimMay 05 11:50
MinceRit's called ODFMay 05 11:50
MinceRthey could just use thatMay 05 11:50
DaemonFCyeah, except you run into a lot of the same problems with ODFMay 05 11:53
DaemonFCtry opening it between free software office suites that have ODF support and watch it render a different way every timeMay 05 11:53
MinceRsuch as having to support all bugs from all versions of m$ office apps ever?May 05 11:53
DaemonFCthe failures won't be as bad as they are with trying to get OOXML to open in anything elseMay 05 11:54
DaemonFCbut nothing besides OpenOffice supports ODF May 05 11:54
DaemonFCand nothing canMay 05 11:54
MinceRor having to deal with a specification that's so bloated you can kill people by printing it and dropping the printout them from 5 cm?May 05 11:54
DaemonFCbecause it's a representation of ODF's internal register May 05 11:54
DaemonFCmost office formats have this issue May 05 11:54
MinceRactually other office apps support ODF tooMay 05 11:54
DaemonFCsort ofMay 05 11:55
MinceRi've opened .ods in Gnumeric, for exampleMay 05 11:55
DaemonFCnone have fully compliant ODF support May 05 11:55
MinceRi doubt you'll have fully compliant support for any office suite file format, fwiwMay 05 11:56
MinceRthe whole concept is ill-conceivedMay 05 11:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Coolio, !identicurse doesn't crash on me any more. :)May 05 11:56
MinceRwith WYSIWYG and stuff like thatMay 05 11:56
DaemonFCODF is bad, and OOXML is terrible *and* dangerous to use because it's nonfreeMay 05 11:56
DaemonFCgiven the two, sure, use ODFMay 05 11:56
MinceRhm, actually LibreOffice supports ODF too :>May 05 11:56
DaemonFCI'm not saying either one is good, OOXML is just unacceptably badMay 05 11:56
MinceRand both OOo and LO are (at least in theory) free softwareMay 05 11:56
DaemonFCLibreOffice is just OpenOfficeMay 05 11:56
DaemonFCwith a different nameMay 05 11:56
DaemonFCof course it supports ODFMay 05 11:57
MinceRyou seemed to be implying that ODF is only a little bit better than OOXML, which is not the caseMay 05 11:57
MinceRactually, LibreOffice is Go-OO with a different name :>May 05 11:57
schestowitzToday PJ posted link to article "Apple releases iPhone, iPad software update to address location data collection"May 05 11:58
schestowitzWe should thank appleMay 05 11:58
schestowitzThey are so responsibleMay 05 11:58
DaemonFCwhen they're caught they do the right thingMay 05 11:59
DaemonFCyou have to admire thatMay 05 11:59
DaemonFCB-)May 05 11:59
schestowitzMinceR: and different leadership, tooMay 05 11:59
MinceRDaemonFC: or they deny it. one of those two thingsMay 05 11:59
MinceRDaemonFC: wait... or they claim it's a feature.May 05 11:59
schestowitzBesides, not it's the fork vs SCOracle, not SunMay 05 12:00
DaemonFCMinceR, Or all threeMay 05 12:00
DaemonFCdeny it, claim it's a feature, then "OK, if you really insist, we'll stop doing it"May 05 12:00
DaemonFCthat's more like what happened hereMay 05 12:00
MinceRpretty muchMay 05 12:00
MinceRexcept they also patented it originallyMay 05 12:00
MinceRand then they claimed "OK, OK, it's a bug anyway, we're fixing it"May 05 12:01
DaemonFCThey patent their bugs, that way nobody else can have cool bugs like AppleMay 05 12:01
DaemonFCis that so hard to get? :PMay 05 12:01
MinceRyeah, rightMay 05 12:01
DaemonFCApple worked hard to bring you hip new bugs like nobody else ever hadMay 05 12:02
DaemonFC:DMay 05 12:02
DaemonFCI wonder if they patented crappy filesystem that has to be constantly patched back up by userspace daemons May 05 12:03
DaemonFC:)May 05 12:03
MinceRmore details on that pleaseMay 05 12:03
DaemonFCHFS+May 05 12:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] CNET Accused of Copyright Infringement for Distributing LimeWire http://is.gd/Vq6MZI right. So we should arrest shopkeepers who sell knives.May 05 12:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: CNET Accused of Copyright Infringement for Distributing LimeWire | Threat Level | Wired.com .::. Size~: 75.67 KBMay 05 12:04
DaemonFCschestowitz needs educated on how theft of 1s and 0s hurts the everymanMay 05 12:05
DaemonFCtrickle down economics and allMay 05 12:05
DaemonFCB-)May 05 12:05
*MinceR steals a bucket of 1s and a bucket of 0s from DaemonFC's houseMay 05 12:05
DaemonFCMinceR, You could have just asked, I can make off of them you needMay 05 12:06
DaemonFCreally :PMay 05 12:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Sony whining about being compromised. What about the Rootkit they infected everybody with in 2005? http://ur1.ca/434kvMay 05 12:06
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DaemonFC*all ofMay 05 12:06
DaemonFCerr, I meanMay 05 12:06
DaemonFCNOOOOOO!!!!! NOT MY 1's and 0's!!!! HOW WILL I FEED MY CAT!?!?!?May 05 12:07
DaemonFCKHAAAAAAAAAAAN!!!!!!!!!!!May 05 12:07
MinceRyour cat is called Khan?May 05 12:07
DaemonFCnoMay 05 12:07
DaemonFCStar Trek II referenceMay 05 12:07
DaemonFC:PMay 05 12:07
DaemonFCMinceR, It would be nice if Ricardo Montalban was still aroundMay 05 12:09
DaemonFChe could talk about Vista 8 and the Corinthian Leather May 05 12:10
MinceRwho's that?May 05 12:12
schestowitzOn GOP spin: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkt7Zip7H6oMay 05 12:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Info Law Enforcement Gets When They Subpoena #Facebook - http://bit.ly/ka6M6l you have been warnedMay 05 12:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Remember this Sony? #pot-kettle-black #anonymous https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Sony_BMG_CD_copy_protection_scandalMay 05 12:14
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DaemonFCMinceR, Ricardo Montalban was KhanMay 05 12:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Glad @jonobacon called out on the systematic suppression and sidelining of Mono critics on Ubuntu forum by moderators. !techbytesMay 05 12:16
DaemonFCin Star TrekMay 05 12:16
MinceRicMay 05 12:16
DaemonFChe did Chrysler commercials at one pointMay 05 12:16
DaemonFCand became infamous for the marketing phrase "Corinthian Leather"May 05 12:16
DaemonFCthere is no such thing, the ad agency figured it sounded nice May 05 12:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] My mate's polite way o saying he needs the toilet "Just off to release a hostage" lol! Made me laugh.... >_>May 05 12:18
barnie2I updated the laptop to Ubuntu 11.04 yesterday for testing and I can sort of see where they are trying to go with it, there are things that irritate but for the non-technical user I think they are going in the right direction. It does remind me a little of Windowmaker ....May 05 12:18
DaemonFCit reminds me a lot of Windows Vista May 05 12:19
Lin_user1I'm just downloading Kubuntu 11.04, I hope it will be usableMay 05 12:19
DaemonFCit isMay 05 12:19
schestowitzbarnie2: with unity?May 05 12:19
Lin_user1I have the new Ubuntu on my cd tooMay 05 12:19
DaemonFCI have my own 2.6.39 kernels with DRM Next added to themMay 05 12:20
MinceRDaemonFC: can you say "false advertising"?May 05 12:20
schestowitzare we talking about Apple again?May 05 12:20
Lin_user1heheMay 05 12:20
DaemonFCMinceR, SOFT CORINTHIAN LEATHER!!!!!!May 05 12:20
DaemonFCDAMMIT!!!!May 05 12:20
barnie2 schestowitz: yes with unity, I couldnt test Unity in a vm so did an upgradeMay 05 12:20
DaemonFCBUY VISTA 8!May 05 12:20
DaemonFCB-)May 05 12:20
Lin_user1I can't imagine vista 8 running on arm :)May 05 12:21
DaemonFCI could imagine it costing oneMay 05 12:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[turin/@turin] "Българите са майстори в изкуството да подписват амбициозни договори, които не смятат да уважат" http://ur1.ca/434ms !wl !BulgariaMay 05 12:21
DaemonFCbut not running on oneMay 05 12:21
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DaemonFC:DMay 05 12:21
Lin_user1on 8May 05 12:21
Lin_user1since the nameMay 05 12:21
MinceRLin_user1: it won't run, it will crawl :>May 05 12:21
MinceRthen again, it won't fit into RAMMay 05 12:21
barnie2DaemonFC: and Vista reminded me of KDE :)May 05 12:22
Lin_user1MinceR: in the best option it will walkMay 05 12:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @rms: Facebook Purged Pages http://ur1.ca/434mmMay 05 12:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @glynmoody: Hollywood presses European Parliament to sign #ACTA - http://bit.ly/mzAcQg how about we tell Hollywood to get lost? #euMay 05 12:23
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barnie2Very few users want to change what they have learnt if they are not technical - one of the reasons why so many users don't want to leave xp unless they have tooMay 05 12:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @glynmoody: TLD, aka Predator, Could be an Open Source Alternative to #Kinect - http://rww.to/lJBlfR looks promising #opensourceMay 05 12:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @glynmoody: Hollywood presses European Parliament to sign #ACTA - http://bit.ly/mzAcQg how about we tell Hollywood to get lost? #euMay 05 12:24
barnie2Strangely the magic training fairy will sort out training costs going to a new MS office & Windows but not something different :)May 05 12:24
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MinceRi thought vista and vista sp7 being even bigger piles of shit than xp was the main factorMay 05 12:24
MinceRincluding requiring much more powerful PCs to crawl alongMay 05 12:25
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barnie2MinceR: thats one reason but a big one is resistance to change and its created more unease in the general populace May 05 12:25
MinceRalso companies being stupid enough to be dependent on winblows also being stupid enough to be dependent on IE6May 05 12:25
DaemonFChaha :PMay 05 12:26
DaemonFCyou rode the short bus if you still use IE 6May 05 12:26
DaemonFC:)May 05 12:26
barnie2MinceR: ie 6 and upwards - I still come accross new sites that provide services that require ie and these have been coded in the last few years!May 05 12:26
MinceRi know a company that's still riding the short busMay 05 12:26
DaemonFCbarnie2, I switched banks because they said come back in IEMay 05 12:27
DaemonFC:PMay 05 12:27
DaemonFCspoofing the user agent worked, but do you really want to do banking with a company that recommends IE?May 05 12:28
DaemonFCB-)May 05 12:28
MinceRthey might run winblows on their serversMay 05 12:29
schestowitzSmart citizens use FirefoxMay 05 12:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 5/5/2011: Linux Back on PS3, New AntiX http://is.gd/t94pum !techrightsMay 05 12:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Links 5/5/2011: Linux Back on PS3, New AntiX http://is.gd/t94pum #techrightsMay 05 12:29
schestowitzGood citizens use IEMay 05 12:29
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DaemonFCMinceR, Solaris 8May 05 12:29
schestowitz"Good"=allowing govt. to check what they are up toMay 05 12:29
MinceRDaemonFC: let me guess.. they tell slowlaris 8-using clients to use IE tooMay 05 12:30
MinceRhypocritesMay 05 12:30
DaemonFCthey tell anyone with a non-IE user agent to use IEMay 05 12:30
MinceRwell, there's no IE port for slowlaris, is there? :>May 05 12:30
DaemonFCyesMay 05 12:30
Lin_user1it must be really slow then ;pMay 05 12:31
schestowitzwasn't that miguel's job?May 05 12:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Please Don't Spoil Your Vote: http://wp.me/pj2fj-rl #sgelectionMay 05 12:31
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schestowitz!google de icaza internet explorer portMay 05 12:31
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Using the ECMA Standards: An Interview with Miguel de Icaza | http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms973826.aspxMay 05 12:31
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Miguel de Icaza - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miguel_de_IcazaMay 05 12:31
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Mono is for Microsoft and Microsoft F# Loves Miguel de Icaza ... | http://techrights.org/2010/11/12/mono-many-signs-of-bias/May 05 12:31
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - GNOME creator respects proprietary software, can't wait for iPad 2 | http://www.networkworld.com/news/2011/031111-deicaza-gnome-ipad2.htmlMay 05 12:31
DaemonFCIE 5 for UNIX ran on Solaris, still does if you dig it up. The company they hired to do the porting leaked a bunch of Windows source code out on the internetMay 05 12:31
DaemonFCyou can still find that on the pirate bayMay 05 12:31
DaemonFCwhoops :)May 05 12:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @richslxh It was talked about on !techbytes episode 43. The mods doing this is why I have not been on Ubuntu forums for 3 years or so.May 05 12:32
DaemonFChttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Explorer_for_UNIXMay 05 12:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Mpno is not about FOSS. It is about using FOSS labels to spread .NET.May 05 12:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @bob_sutor Would not be surprised at all if MSFT picks up #Mono employees per http://bit.ly/l0nzUy Perfect fit, except for the open-sourceMay 05 12:34
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MinceRand does that bank support ie5? :>May 05 12:34
DaemonFCmehMay 05 12:35
DaemonFCdon't know don't careMay 05 12:35
DaemonFChttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e4/Internet_Explorer_4_for_Solaris_screenshot.pngMay 05 12:35
TechrightsBot-trNot a web page! Aborting image/png typeMay 05 12:35
DaemonFCIE 4 for UNIX didn't support Channel Definition FormatMay 05 12:35
DaemonFCbut still displayed the Channels button, grayed out May 05 12:36
DaemonFCquality :)May 05 12:36
MinceRoriginal m$ qualityMay 05 12:36
DaemonFCt was noted however, that while the homepage had been removed, the actual download page remained up for a time.[15] The reason given by Microsoft's PR firm was that "low customer demand for this download did not justify the resources required for continued development."[16]May 05 12:37
DaemonFCfunny how that hasn't deterred them from saddling Windows users with new versionsMay 05 12:37
DaemonFC:)May 05 12:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Seems to me that AV would only be an improvement in a two party system, maybe the US.May 05 12:37
Lin_user1by everyone, I'm going to test the new Kubuntu :)May 05 12:39
Lin_user1bye*May 05 12:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] baguette time has come/ something tasty in a bun/ a beer anyone? !haiku #haikualancheMay 05 12:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Fabien Tassin: !Chromium and !Unity http://goo.gl/8BaSCMay 05 12:44
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MinceRdamn, i'm tired of nautilus ignoring doubleclicks on a whimMay 05 12:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Alan Bell: Taking Notes at !UDS http://goo.gl/Ki5XZMay 05 12:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #Launchpad News: What’s next? Part 2: Features http://goo.gl/Ka2tbMay 05 12:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] David Mandala: Ubuntu Developers Summit ( !UDS ) is upon us http://goo.gl/mcmjKMay 05 12:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #Androinica: !Android phones account for half of U.S. market share; 4G is King. http://goo.gl/w6eDJMay 05 12:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] ♻ @toros #Androinica: !Android phones account for half of U.S. market share; 4G is King. http://goo.gl/w6eDJMay 05 12:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Android phones account for half of U.S. market share; 4G is King. http://is.gd/Z5H00K #android #linuxMay 05 12:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @glynmoody Hollywood presses European Parliament to sign #ACTA - http://bit.ly/mzAcQg how about we tell Hollywood to get lost? #euMay 05 13:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Cheese n bacon baguette as wide as my keyboard http://ur1.ca/434t2May 05 13:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] what is with the "system program problem detected" errors on #Natty? no details, no nothing, just "report, yes or no?"May 05 13:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Is #Mono dead? Is #Novell dying? - http://zd.net/lX0c5m good summary, good questionsMay 05 13:19
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schestowitzhttp://www.groklaw.net/comment.php?mode=display&sid=20110501183800162&title=King+%26amp%3B+Spalding+fallout+-+NRA&type=article&order=&hideanonymous=0&pid=918290#c918295May 05 13:25
schestowitzhttp://www.groklaw.net/comment.php?mode=display&sid=20110501183800162&title=I%27ve+killed+at+least+two+Mac+conferences.&type=article&order=&hideanonymous=0&pid=918198#c918349May 05 13:26
schestowitz"They are trying to do that to FOSDEM and other FOSS conferences. They send their guy to speak, but he at first got ignored. But now they have de Icaza and Monomaniacs so they watch Microsoft speeches and repeat around. Youtube videos how much Mono promotion there is on FOSDEM. On Red Hat summit last year, they tried to inject HyperV talk, but I don't think anybody watched it. Also MSFT sends their mouthpieces to GLUGs, like this one. May 05 13:26
schestowitzReally disgusting to watch. Here is what RMS says about MSFT presence (or even sponsorship) on events like that.He hit a nail right on the head. "May 05 13:26
schestowitzAhaMay 05 13:26
schestowitzSo this is why PJ linked to the old article about RMSMay 05 13:26
schestowitzHehe. Power to gnufreexMay 05 13:26
barnie2banging my head against a brick wall! Anyone run mail servers here?May 05 13:30
schestowitzhttp://www.groklaw.net/comment.php?mode=display&sid=20110501183800162&title=Boycott+Novell+.com+declares+victory&type=article&order=&hideanonymous=0&pid=918125#c918183 "Boycott Novell (now TechRights.org) declares victory as Nov ell becomes de-listed. "May 05 13:30
schestowitz"What victory? Novel's delisting is because its no longer a publicly traded company n/t"May 05 13:31
schestowitzWell, duhMay 05 13:31
schestowitzhttp://www.groklaw.net/comment.php?mode=display&sid=20110501183800162&title=Some+will+claim+victory....&type=article&order=&hideanonymous=0&pid=918267#c918346May 05 13:31
schestowitz"Considering Novell was sold for a tidy sum, if the boycott was supposed to decrease Novell's value, it doesn't appear to have had any effect."May 05 13:31
schestowitzTidy sum?May 05 13:31
schestowitzIt was a terrible sumMay 05 13:31
oiaohmOk why a prior successful company had to be sold shows bad management.May 05 13:32
schestowitzhttp://www.groklaw.net/comment.php?mode=display&sid=20110427052238659&title=Long+standing+issue.&type=article&order=&hideanonymous=0&pid=917205#c917344May 05 13:32
schestowitz"May 05 13:32
schestowitzReasonable people have called Microsoft's patent attacks judicial extortion and anti-trust violation for years. PJ called them out in 2004 and I compiled a Microsoft patent extortion timeline in 2008 where people can compare the things Microsoft says with the things Microsoft does. The Barns and Noble case is going to be very interesting.May 05 13:32
schestowitzThe latest news, other than this excellent defense by B&N, is that Microsoft may be behind Bedrock too. May 05 13:32
schestowitz"May 05 13:32
schestowitzhttp://www.groklaw.net/comment.php?mode=display&sid=20110427052238659&title=%26quot%3BHow+can+PJ+leave+now%3F%26quot%3B&type=article&order=&hideanonymous=0&pid=917269#c917311May 05 13:33
schestowitz"May 05 13:33
schestowitzThat is a really useful comment - I didn't know about Techrights.May 05 13:33
schestowitzOne of the most useful things we can all do in these last days of Groklaw is toMay 05 13:33
schestowitzpublish a list of other sites that overlap.May 05 13:33
schestowitzWe are all going to miss Groklaw enormously. PJ, and all the contributors, haveMay 05 13:33
schestowitzdone a fabulous job. PJ absolutely deserves a rest, but she will be sorelyMay 05 13:33
schestowitzmissed.May 05 13:33
schestowitz"May 05 13:33
schestowitzhttp://www.groklaw.net/comment.php?mode=display&sid=20110427052238659&title=%26quot%3BHow+can+PJ+leave+now%3F%26quot%3B&type=article&order=&hideanonymous=0&pid=917410#c917416May 05 13:33
schestowitz"May 05 13:34
schestowitzActually, I think I've found a solution. I can'tMay 05 13:34
schestowitzannounce anything yet, but I think we have foundMay 05 13:34
schestowitza way for others to keep things going, mostMay 05 13:34
schestowitzparticularly a FOSS lawyer who knows more aboutMay 05 13:34
schestowitzpatents than I'll ever know to do the articles.May 05 13:34
schestowitzPlus a cast of thousands.May 05 13:34
schestowitz: )May 05 13:34
schestowitzIt's not all worked out yet, and until then, it'sMay 05 13:34
schestowitzstill more a plan than a certainty, but I think it'sMay 05 13:34
schestowitzgoing to work. So don't go anywhere, you guys.May 05 13:34
schestowitzYour skills and experience and knowledge of theMay 05 13:34
schestowitzwhole history of computing is a resource we don'tMay 05 13:34
schestowitzwant to lose. You already changed the world. NoMay 05 13:34
schestowitzreason to stop now when prior art is more importantMay 05 13:34
schestowitzthan it's ever been.May 05 13:34
schestowitzWhich reminds me. If you have any regarding theMay 05 13:34
schestowitzMicrosoft patents asserted against Barnes & Noble,May 05 13:34
schestowitzmight as well send them along to me. Just clickMay 05 13:34
schestowitzon the little envelope and email me.May 05 13:34
schestowitz"May 05 13:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] After listening to !techbytes interview I will not be able to think of @jonobacon without thinking of Justin Bieber as well :) #unforgivableMay 05 13:34
oiaohmPJ in the field could be a better weapon at this stage.  schestowitzMay 05 13:34
schestowitzhttp://www.groklaw.net/comment.php?mode=display&sid=20110419030417564&title=Microsoft%27s+Yahoo!+Joins+Linux+Foundation&type=article&order=&hideanonymous=0&pid=915795#c916309May 05 13:35
schestowitz"Techrights.org has picked up PJ's comments on Yahoo! joining the Linux foundation: Groklaw Opposes Novellfs Membership in the Linux Foundation, Due to Microsoft Ties. With the way thing have gone since Icahn, they can't be there to help. "May 05 13:35
schestowitzoiaohm: how so?May 05 13:35
schestowitzhttp://www.groklaw.net/comment.php?mode=display&sid=20110420141724403&title=You+wouldn%27t+loose+money+betting+against+Florian&type=article&order=&hideanonymous=0&pid=916255#c916289 "You wouldn't loose money betting against Florian"May 05 13:36
schestowitzAndre from FFIIMay 05 13:36
oiaohmPJ is a really good researcher with B&N cases and the like.May 05 13:36
oiaohmPJ at this stage would be better invested on work for those.May 05 13:37
oiaohmPJ collected a stock pile of people who can write good tracking stories and keep groklaw going.May 05 13:37
schestowitz"One of the MEPs apparently moonlights as a lobbyist to promote the introduction of software patents into Europe. That's some serious conflict. " http://www.groklaw.net/comment.php?mode=display&sid=20110417223700208&title=Software+patents+and++serious+conflict+of+interest&type=article&order=&hideanonymous=0&pid=915561#c915751May 05 13:37
schestowitzoiaohm: you think she's being hired?May 05 13:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #WebUpd8: Linux Mint 11 To Use !GNOME 2.32 http://goo.gl/X8qS1May 05 13:39
oiaohmschestowitz: If I was lining up for a battle.  I would be considering a person like that.May 05 13:41
oiaohmI still remember all the effort they went to just to find who PJ was.May 05 13:42
schestowitzOK, I see..May 05 13:54
schestowitzWell, she says she's retiringMay 05 13:54
schestowitzIf she was hired, she would have to hide itMay 05 13:55
schestowitzBut based on what she tells me in E-mail, she really does just want a major break from it allMay 05 13:55
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oiaohmschestowitz: Note I just said where I see her more use at this stage.  Of course that does not mean she has to.May 05 13:57
schestowitzyou seemed to imply this was trueMay 05 14:00
schestowitzFeeding her eneomies like Florian :-)May 05 14:00
schestowitzDon't speculatively assume she's cashing inMay 05 14:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Do you speak my language? Education versus open source processes and principles | http://red.ht/mnQZJ0 #openeduMay 05 14:01
zoobabhiMay 05 14:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Groklaw Worried About #Novell Polluting #Ubuntu With Mono, IBM’s Open Source VP Thinks Microsoft Might Scoop #Mono http://is.gd/SbEeP9May 05 14:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] If Ian Tomlinson pushed PC Harwood, & PC Harwood died, there would be calls for life in prison: http://is.gd/Sz9aQW #policestatewatchMay 05 14:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Groklaw Worried About Novell Polluting !Ubuntu With Mono,IBM’s Open Source VP Thinks Microsoft Might Scoop !Mono http://is.gd/SbEeP9 #swpatsMay 05 14:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @wayneborean] If Ian Tomlinson pushed PC Harwood, & PC Harwood died, there would be calls for life in prison: http://is.gd/Sz9aQWMay 05 14:06
oiaohmschestowitz: I was in analysis mode.  I really need to be more careful.May 05 14:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Android To Surpass Apple’s App Store In Size By August 2011: Report - http://tcrn.ch/jtRXMX not that raw numbers mean muchMay 05 14:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] How to install Software package on a Linux System when it do not have Internet - debbundle - http://ur1.ca/43541May 05 14:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] A sign that Cabinet Office reforms will alter behaviour of major IT suppliers - http://bit.ly/iM5jTk potentially big effect #procurement #ukMay 05 14:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Oracle ordered to reduce claims against Google from 132 to 3 (Groklaw) http://lwn.net/Articles/441563/rssMay 05 14:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] Wiki Wednesday: May 4, 2011 http://hacks.mozilla.org/2011/05/wiki-wednesday-may-4-2011/May 05 14:14
schestowitzHi, GoForbes28May 05 14:15
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schestowitzif it cannot be discussed publicly, then it might not be about the subjects fitting our scopeMay 05 14:16
schestowitzGoForbes28: I don't do PMMay 05 14:18
schestowitzI see the general themeMay 05 14:18
schestowitzIt's nothing to be concerned aboutMay 05 14:18
schestowitzNo single example of someone being affectedMay 05 14:19
schestowitzIn fact, things are now a lot better than before, due to mono being cannedMay 05 14:19
schestowitzThe AstroTurf is weakMay 05 14:20
schestowitzIt's probably apple that's the main PR danger these daysMay 05 14:21
GoForbes28brbMay 05 14:21
schestowitzThere was once this lady..May 05 14:21
schestowitzMiss JonesMay 05 14:21
schestowitzAnd she thought, "Gee, why should I ever vote?"May 05 14:22
schestowitz"It might give me flak.."May 05 14:22
schestowitzJones (hypothetical) was never remembered past her deathMay 05 14:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] 50 Classic Russian Films (Including #Tarkovsky’s Finest) Now Online - http://bit.ly/ltB2M5 fabulous news #cinema #youtubeMay 05 14:26
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GoForbes28ook roy, I can go on Skype nowMay 05 14:26
schestowitzI'm not on skype now, I'm multitasking with code and stuffMay 05 14:29
schestowitzWHich is why I also don't do PMMay 05 14:29
GoForbes28Roy, this is importantMay 05 14:30
GoForbes28ASAP, pleaseMay 05 14:30
schestowitzGoForbes28: I read the gist of itMay 05 14:31
schestowitzI got the key pointsMay 05 14:31
schestowitzAnd I don't think it's self-defeating to mention thisMay 05 14:31
schestowitzSeveral people from this channel spoke about the same issues, publiclyMay 05 14:31
schestowitzThis does belong in public awarenessMay 05 14:31
schestowitzAs if everyone kept such stuff to themselves, there would be no room for unionising against a corrupt actionMay 05 14:32
schestowitzwikileaks for example went against gaggingMay 05 14:32
schestowitzStrength in numbersMay 05 14:32
schestowitzTo me, it's the opposite reponse to actionMay 05 14:32
schestowitzThe more the message is being suppressed, the louder it should becomeMay 05 14:33
schestowitzBecause powerful messages are suppressed the mostMay 05 14:33
schestowitzWithout it, people would not have a civilised worldMay 05 14:33
schestowitzCourage is contagious ;-)May 05 14:33
MinceRpeople do not have a civilised worldMay 05 14:33
schestowitzWell.. :-)May 05 14:34
schestowitzBecause not enough people have courageMay 05 14:34
schestowitzMany people refuse to even mention the word wikileaksMay 05 14:34
schestowitzThey are told it'll hurt them if they doMay 05 14:34
schestowitz!google students not to mention wikileaksMay 05 14:34
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schestowitz!google students not to mention wikileaksMay 05 14:35
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MinceRnot enough have a notion of what civilization even isMay 05 14:35
schestowitzHeh. TrueMay 05 14:36
schestowitzGoForbes28: you put many alerts on my desktopMay 05 14:37
schestowitzNo PMs, pleaseMay 05 14:37
schestowitzYou don't have the same settingsMay 05 14:38
schestowitzsebsebseb makes the same thing happen by over-highlighting peopleMay 05 14:38
schestowitzWhich gives them many triggersMay 05 14:38
GoForbes28sorryMay 05 14:38
GoForbes28can you at least read what I've written so I don't have to type it again though?May 05 14:39
GoForbes28I will be public from here on out.May 05 14:39
MinceRyou could just hit up, enter ;)May 05 14:39
GoForbes28not with my program :PMay 05 14:41
schestowitzHmm..May 05 14:42
schestowitzGoForbes28: let me explainMay 05 14:42
schestowitzFrankly :-)May 05 14:42
schestowitzAnd humblyMay 05 14:42
schestowitzWhen issues go underground, we don't resolve the issueMay 05 14:42
schestowitzWe only serve those who want it to be undergroundMay 05 14:42
schestowitzThat's why suppression id being doneMay 05 14:42
schestowitzGoing against it is the only way to confront usMay 05 14:42
schestowitzWomen's rightsMay 05 14:43
schestowitzMany were jailedMay 05 14:43
schestowitzIn IT nobody needs to be jailedMay 05 14:43
schestowitzWell, almostMay 05 14:43
schestowitz!google dms hacker arrested May 05 14:43
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - DMS - Social Organisation of the Computer Underground | http://bak.spc.org/dms/archive/hackorg.htmlMay 05 14:43
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - The Conscience of a Hacker {Reprint} - .:: Phrack Magazine ::. | http://www.phrack.org/issues.html%3Fissue%3D14%26id%3D3May 05 14:43
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schestowitz!google drm hacker arrested May 05 14:43
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schestowitzBut the point is, we don't need to sacrifice muchMay 05 14:43
schestowitz!google martin luther king assassinatedMay 05 14:43
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schestowitzHere it's a lot simplerMay 05 14:44
schestowitzthey people just came outMay 05 14:44
schestowitzActually, it's the same with there gay communityMay 05 14:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Is it !problematic that I routinely call the #Apache Software Foundation "the Apache Foundation"? Truthfully, habit from !SFLC days.May 05 14:44
schestowitzBy just hiding who they were they served their hatersMay 05 14:44
schestowitzBy going "in your face" they did the oppositeMay 05 14:44
schestowitzAnd in the case of IT or even atheism, being confrontational is an attitude adopted by some peopleMay 05 14:45
schestowitzshocking those who know they pray to air or never really *choose* WindowsMay 05 14:45
schestowitzThey need to know that many of their peers feel the same and unioniseMay 05 14:46
schestowitzVictims of domestic abuse for exampleMay 05 14:46
schestowitzSome women try to keep it secretMay 05 14:46
schestowitzEven when they approach the policeMay 05 14:46
schestowitzAnd they always feel alone because of this, it's not seen as a widespread problemMay 05 14:46
*schestowitz back to codingMay 05 14:46
schestowitz http://techrights.org/2011/02/19/attempts-to-hire-microsoft-critic/May 05 14:48
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schestowitzmany other people have been explaining that they are abused for ciriticisng mono/MicrosoftMay 05 14:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] How to read #Google Earth like #Proust - http://bit.ly/kSqFSt a nice conceitMay 05 14:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] A review of 2084: An Oral History of the Great Warming - http://bit.ly/jftYlS interesting use of #amazon's "singles" - http://bit.ly/iKhT5ZMay 05 14:54
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GoForbes28sorryMay 05 14:55
GoForbes28back nowMay 05 14:55
GoForbes28did you have more to say after your 9:48 sentence roy?May 05 14:55
schestowitzno. 2:49May 05 14:56
MinceRno, 15:48May 05 14:57
MinceR:>May 05 14:58
GoForbes28`whatever, time zones :PMay 05 15:00
MinceR:>May 05 15:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] The open source why | http://red.ht/j46NDzMay 05 15:01
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schestowitzMinceR: and clock settings :-)May 05 15:02
GoForbes28were going to say more rOy?May 05 15:02
GoForbes28*roy?May 05 15:04
schestowitzno, I wrote a lotMay 05 15:04
schestowitzwithout giving away muchMay 05 15:04
GoForbes28It is convincingMay 05 15:06
schestowitzI gave away my privacyMay 05 15:09
schestowitzAnd I never hid my identityMay 05 15:09
schestowitzI cannot be "unmasked"May 05 15:09
schestowitzI also cannot be insulted or "exposed"May 05 15:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Breaking European Patent Law With the Benelux Court Hack http://is.gd/CMHDvR #swpats #eu #law #acta #monopoly #regulationMay 05 15:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Breaking European Patent Law With the Benelux Court Hack http://is.gd/CMHDvR #europe #eupatent #epoMay 05 15:09
schestowitzAnd it's a lot of fun that way.May 05 15:09
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schestowitzFreedom of thought, operationMay 05 15:09
schestowitzMy employers have no problems with it, some even *like* itMay 05 15:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Polisens förhörsledare i Assange-fall JO-anmäls http://is.gd/ZDAaD7May 05 15:11
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GoForbes28how did you handle the attacks on your family though?May 05 15:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] 2 bugs fixed in #switzerland: http://ur1.ca/435eq and http://ur1.ca/435es removed the non- !fs addvertisement http://l.fsfe.org/pdfr !fsfeMay 05 15:14
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GoForbes28if that isn't too personal a question?May 05 15:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fsfe/@fsfe] Again 7 bugs in #Italy and 2 bugs in Switzerland fixed. Thanks to the volunteers who follow up http://ur1.ca/435fc !fsfeMay 05 15:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Royal Wedding - http://bit.ly/jW7F0n interesting insight into what it took to get 2 iconic pix - hard work, mostly (v @stshank)May 05 15:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks: Did Australia Incite Timor Unrest? Wikileaks http://bit.ly/lLtumrMay 05 15:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] RD @mlinksva I needed 2 DRM posts in order to copy @osamak http://gondwanaland.com/mlog/2011/05/04/drm-vs-floss/ #nodrmMay 05 15:16
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GoForbes28or am I thinking of something else?May 05 15:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Prior Art, Anyone? Anyone? Barnes & Noble? Google? Motorola? - Updated 4Xs - http://bit.ly/jkQzpS lots of examples #apple #ipadMay 05 15:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Alberto Ruiz: First steps with #Wayland http://goo.gl/ZJxaaMay 05 15:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] USBil per year spent on trying to keep US gov info secret http://alturl.com/64fvvMay 05 15:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] Happy birthday :) RT @qtbynokia: Happy 1st birthday today to Qt Developer Network!May 05 15:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] Preparing to contribute 6 tons CO2-equivalent to the atmosphere over the next 18 hours, almost purely for selfish reasons. Shame on me.May 05 15:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] with elections, the voting part is just a toy for the plebs to think we have some say in the outcome, so we don't revolt #politicsMay 05 15:24
schestowitz[15:14] <GoForbes28> how did you handle the attacks on your family though?May 05 15:26
schestowitzOn family?!May 05 15:26
schestowitzNo.May 05 15:26
schestowitzLOL http://twitter.com/wbm/status/66145885792370688May 05 15:27
TechrightsBot-tr@wbm: Just got an email announcement that Dr. Roy Schestowitz has been placed in charge of #Mono, #MonoTouch, and #MonoDroid development. #jokingMay 05 15:27
schestowitzMaybe if each one of us chips in with 10 cents we can buy Mono and liqidate itMay 05 15:28
schestowitzI have a big sinklMay 05 15:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] nobody fucks with the church's legal dept, they're good lawyers http://is.gd/qI5OMw constant deluge of paedophiles to shield from the lawMay 05 15:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] ... I love to eat spaghetti, but not to unravel! Have been refactoring #PHP code for the last two days. They call themselves 'developers'?May 05 15:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] RT @thistleweb nobody fucks with the church's legal dept, they're good lawyers http://is.gd/qI5OMw constant deluge of paedophiles to shi ...May 05 15:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Murdoch opens WikiLeaks inspired submission site https://www.wsjsafehouse.com/May 05 15:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] if the elite thought they could get away with it, humans would have the same "retirement" as racehorses "can't make us money? too bad" BANG!May 05 15:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] forced myself to write JavaScript on the frontend; implement and abstracted the dirty code. people tell it works/feels much more useful nowMay 05 15:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] The #USPTO Has Gone Corrupt http://is.gd/MwlloZ Now that the USPTO is managed by the fox. #SwpatsMay 05 15:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] IMHO, what you Brits should really do is get rid of the Lords and have two proper houses of parliament. You live in the 1800s.May 05 15:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] about my own side project: why is the !Qt Quick documentation not available as a few PDF's? Do I really have to get Qt Creator for this?!?May 05 15:33
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GoForbes28schestowitz: didn't take long for that to be removed...May 05 15:34
GoForbes28http://twitter.com/wbm/status/66145885792370688May 05 15:34
TechrightsBot-tr@wbm: Just got an email announcement that Dr. Roy Schestowitz has been placed in charge of #Mono, #MonoTouch, and #MonoDroid development. #jokingMay 05 15:34
GoForbes28testMay 05 15:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The USPTO Has Gone Corrupt http://is.gd/MwlloZ Now that the USPTO is managed by the fox. #monopoly #protectionismMay 05 15:34
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GoForbes28sorry about thatMay 05 15:35
GoForbes28couldn't see my talkMay 05 15:35
GoForbes28It was twitter I was thinking of who had family attacksMay 05 15:35
GoForbes28schestowitz: I have to resend the LV video to youMay 05 15:37
GoForbes28your email contact info is messed upMay 05 15:37
GoForbes28roy-at-schestowitz-dot-com@use-address-before-at.comMay 05 15:37
GoForbes28Diablo-D3 Good morning belatedMay 05 15:38
GoForbes28schestowitz: Back to business as usual.  You'd fit right in as a Starfleet Captain :)May 05 15:39
GoForbes28Your speech reminds of that speech by Picard during the TNG finaleMay 05 15:39
GoForbes28!google Picard speech all good thingsMay 05 15:42
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Great Star Trek Quotes -- The Next Generation | http://www.sjtrek.com/trek/quotes/S_TheNextGeneration/May 05 15:42
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Good Picard eps? - The Trek BBS | http://trekbbs.com/showthread.php%3Ft%3D139552May 05 15:42
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - The Most Thoughtful Trek Quotes - The Official Star Trek Movie Forum | http://www.startrekmovie.com/forums/showthread.php%3Ft%3D331May 05 15:42
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Captain Jean-Luc Picard (Character) - Quotes | http://www.imdb.com/character/ch0001449/quotesMay 05 15:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] The majority (52%) of Americans say WikiLeaks releases good, made government accountable http://is.gd/59xcgGMay 05 15:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Everytime I see someone use "MoFo" to refer to #Mozilla Fdn I think of Morrison & Foerster; wonder if opposite happens to @tieguyMay 05 15:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Opinions of a Pencil-necked Weasel-thief... - http://bit.ly/mv8naH wonderfully mature & adult response to childish insults (v @BoingBoing)May 05 15:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @fontana I think something else..... ;)May 05 15:44
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GoForbes28schestowitz: Now I am thinking, why was it called Mono in the first place?May 05 15:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Filesystem hierarchy standard 3.0 process begins http://lwn.net/Articles/441589/rssMay 05 15:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Police interrogator in Assange case reported to ombudsman, faces disciplinary action for Facebook remarks http://is.gd/ZDAaD7May 05 15:46
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GoForbes28shame about MiguelMay 05 15:46
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GoForbes28He did make Gnumeric after allMay 05 15:46
GoForbes28I guess we should have seperated Miguel into two people thenMay 05 15:47
oiaohmGoForbes28: Not that Gnumeric impresses me.May 05 15:48
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GoForbes28apparently, it's accuracy is commendableMay 05 15:49
koolhead17hi allMay 05 15:49
koolhead17schestowitz :)May 05 15:49
koolhead17hi jono.May 05 15:50
GoForbes28oiaohm: He also made MC, and founded GnomeMay 05 15:50
koolhead17hello everybody!!May 05 15:50
GoForbes28oiaohm: Again, seperate him into two peopleMay 05 15:50
koolhead17and then did the trollMay 05 15:50
GoForbes28yeahMay 05 15:50
GoForbes28I wasn't aware of these events at the time, but I assume most had feelings of betrayal of the events that took place?May 05 15:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !Ubuntu 11.04: Too Natty for Its Own Good? • by Katherine Noyes http://ping.fm/bMLFhMay 05 15:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] [How to] Disable the ‘resize grip’ in !Ubuntu 11.04 http://ping.fm/UXvf3May 05 15:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @fabsh Ask !fedora leaders like @spot or @jsmith whether want 2 use #Harmony ; if so can name themselves inbound licensee, won't be !RedHatMay 05 15:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Eventually there'll be so many GUI hacks for #Unity it'll look just like #Gnome 2 on most people's desktops. I can't wait for the script :)May 05 15:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Britain..fed up of the Royal Mail's "we are legally obliged to deliver" leaflet spam, put it back in a post box, see how they like it.May 05 15:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @fontana Why is asking the question #disturbing?May 05 15:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @fabsh well yeah, I always wondered why a prominent law firm would indulge use of such a nickname :)May 05 15:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @fontana :DMay 05 15:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] GRUB customizer app is an idea so obvious it's overdue http://ping.fm/xorv2May 05 15:53
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GoForbes28schestowitz: So if I understand correctly, opensuse will soon be cut free of its novell chains?May 05 15:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Having said that it's probably only a new idea to me anywayMay 05 15:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Logging off for a bit. Need to get home from work.May 05 15:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @fabsh OK maybe legitimate question; I have had benefit of hearing @spot's viewsMay 05 15:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[copiesofcopies/@copiesofcopies] @fontana For many law firms, a reputation for being a motherfucker is sadly profitable. /cc @fabshMay 05 15:56
jonohi koolhead17May 05 15:57
GoForbes28jono: were you always a regular here?May 05 15:57
jonowhat happened to Miguel?May 05 15:57
koolhead17jono: he is hiding from the world!! :PMay 05 15:57
jonoGoForbes28, been here for a whileMay 05 15:58
GoForbes28Just reading Roy's postMay 05 15:58
GoForbes28Jono Bacon?May 05 15:58
koolhead17GoForbes28: hmm :PMay 05 15:58
jonoGoForbes28, yesMay 05 15:58
GoForbes28oh coolMay 05 15:58
*koolhead17 wonders if he joins MSFTMay 05 15:58
GoForbes28How long did it take you to wonder?May 05 15:58
koolhead17GoForbes28: i want it to be formal announcement :DMay 05 15:59
GoForbes28like election resultsMay 05 15:59
koolhead17GoForbes28: hehe. no balmer and he doing a press conf togather :DMay 05 16:00
koolhead17*togatherMay 05 16:00
GoForbes28yeah, we don't know for sure, but my riding always votes the same, and Miguel strikes me as a predictable typeMay 05 16:00
koolhead17MinceR: Ender_nothome hiMay 05 16:00
koolhead17GoForbes28: his troll with RMS !! goshhhhhhMay 05 16:00
GoForbes28...May 05 16:01
GoForbes28don't get the contextMay 05 16:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #WebUpd8: How To Display Network Upload / Download Speed On The Panel In !Ubuntu 11.04 http://goo.gl/jCLipMay 05 16:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Dustin Kirkland: Introducing manpg.es -- an !Ubuntu Manpage URL Shortener! http://goo.gl/eAV7AMay 05 16:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @copiesofcopies yeah that's true.May 05 16:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Reading about possible mergers that would upset me 2day - #RIM & M$, #Facebook & #Skype. I'd hate themMay 05 16:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Building stronger public schools: problem solved? | http://red.ht/l4CNjCMay 05 16:01
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koolhead17regarding changing Gnome Licence i supposeMay 05 16:01
GoForbes28I didn't get much sleep last night due to nerves so you'll have to bear with meMay 05 16:01
GoForbes28link?May 05 16:02
koolhead17http://mail.gnome.org/archives/foundation-list/2010-March/msg00104.htmlMay 05 16:04
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GoForbes28schestowitz: Any change we can get FLAC versions of TechBytes?May 05 16:05
GoForbes28koolhead17: By any other name...May 05 16:05
oiaohmGoForbes28: I would say no.  FLAC is what you call large.May 05 16:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @fabsh I will then write blog post titled "Back Home, to #Debian " as Debian was the first !GNU #Linux distro I installedMay 05 16:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !Linux creator Linus Torvalds to keynote LinuxCon Japan - Open Source Insider http://ping.fm/Ow2ESMay 05 16:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] the #Guardian let some unqualified writers do articles http://is.gd/ff5RH6 computing privacy isn't that hard with some basic skillsMay 05 16:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] ePayments Week: Report says developers chill on !Android - O'Reilly Radar http://ping.fm/K6BkWMay 05 16:06
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oiaohmGoForbes28: Of course you are not aware of the odd cases of the speed up cache sever on the site not liking large files.May 05 16:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] email newsletters from sites you willingly sign up for is not "stalking" either, specially when they have an opt outMay 05 16:08
GoForbes28yeah, you're right, kinda silly ideaMay 05 16:08
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GoForbes28FLAC I only use for music because I have sensitive hearingMay 05 16:08
GoForbes28128-192 kbs annoys meMay 05 16:08
MinceRfirst we'd need good quality recordings before FLAC could make a difference :>May 05 16:09
MinceRhigh sampling frequency tooMay 05 16:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[goforbes28/@goforbes28] RT @schestowitz The USPTO Has Gone Corrupt http://is.gd/MwlloZ Now that the USPTO is managed by the fox. #monopoly #protectionismMay 05 16:09
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schestowitzGoForbes28: what's up?May 05 16:10
schestowitzNo PM, plsMay 05 16:10
schestowitzI'm getting distractedMay 05 16:10
schestowitzI'm on a different desktop concentratingMay 05 16:11
GoForbes28sorry.May 05 16:11
GoForbes28I think I asked my questions earlierMay 05 16:11
GoForbes28Yeah I did, so you can just look at thoseMay 05 16:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Foxconn employees asked to sign 'no suicide' pledge http://ping.fm/spHVvMay 05 16:14
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MinceRoffenders will be executed!May 05 16:15
GoForbes28LolMay 05 16:15
GoForbes28And don't dare use a  hairdyer at workMay 05 16:15
GoForbes28*dryerMay 05 16:15
MinceRand don't even think of reincarnating.May 05 16:15
koolhead17:PMay 05 16:20
oiaohmI like MinceR the wording is wrong.May 05 16:20
oiaohmIe person commit suicide releation still could sue.May 05 16:20
MinceR:>May 05 16:21
koolhead17:)May 05 16:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] IronBee, Community and SSL (The H) http://lwn.net/Articles/441598/rssMay 05 16:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] if #Anonymous are lots of disparate groups, how can they deny the #Sony allegations? similarly, how can Sony be certain? #blamehoundMay 05 16:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Assange right to slam Swedish courts: Lawyers http://alturl.com/qkki2May 05 16:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♺ @smaffulli: CBS is being sued for allegations for © infringement offenses for distributing Limewire http://is.gd/9lpcNT <moronic lawsuitMay 05 16:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♺ @smaffulli: CBS is being sued for allegations for © infringement offenses for distributing Limewire http://is.gd/9lpcNTMay 05 16:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Piracy Politics Fuel Internet #Censorship • by Ernesto http://ping.fm/nL7BxMay 05 16:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WSJ calls for indictment of Assange http://on.wsj.com/eTh7dT launches own leak site: https://www.wsjsafehouse.com/May 05 16:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Psychology Journal rejects studies contradicting precognition - New Scientist http://ping.fm/ZgMvkMay 05 16:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Tablet computing ? Who needs that crap ? Ah, now they'll make you see you can't live without it. Oh, tablets, where were you all this time ?May 05 16:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] A dialogue for ending fish discards - http://bit.ly/lJX8I0 "to make the best use out of those by-catches that will still be unavoidable" #euMay 05 16:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @silner Foxconn employees asked to sign 'no suicide' pledge http://ping.fm/spHVv < what would happen upon violation? Execution?May 05 16:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Twitter joke trial; man guilty of threat to blow up sex doll http://is.gd/X0rEHEMay 05 16:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] rofl #iPhone app to let the world know every time you have a dump http://is.gd/v9R0c4May 05 16:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] PAP buses people to rallies and gives them a meal as well. Good welfare. Buy Votes. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQZO37-wUp8 #sgelectionMay 05 16:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Tell President @BarackObama: End the war in Afghanistan. http://bit.ly/mNSHreMay 05 16:53
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GoForbes28No, we have to stay... for "reasons"May 05 16:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] WP's Pritam Singh leading The Pledge. Wonderful! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAKh_N2dQs4 #sgelectionMay 05 16:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Oracle admits they suck, hands Hudson over to Eclipse http://ur1.ca/435zd !javaMay 05 16:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Did Some Black Holes Survive the Big Bang? http://ur1.ca/435zh !scienceMay 05 17:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] LINK: !IE gets tough on Flash cookies but ignores homegrown threat- http://tinyurl.com/6xbuetw !silverlight is that still alive? !microsoftMay 05 17:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Piracy Politics Fuel Internet #Censorship - http://bit.ly/kNAMU2 becoming a key problem for modern democracies #copyrightMay 05 17:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[torproject/@torproject] http://torrentfreak.com/tor-servers-bombarded-with-bittorrent-dmca-notices-110502/ #torMay 05 17:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] So is the PSN up again or not.....I assume not since it didn't appear to let me log in yesterday....May 05 17:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Flashmob gathering of world's largest fish - http://bit.ly/lLVZFG can't help feeling this makes them more vulnerable #whalesharksMay 05 17:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] There should be away of blocking bastards like #righthaven from malicious troll litigation, permanently I mean http://ur1.ca/4360qMay 05 17:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Microsoft’s Three Musketeers (Gates, Allen, Myhrvold) Still Assault the Market With Patents http://is.gd/5WWfKb #swpats #linux #htcMay 05 17:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Who Should Buy #SuSE #Linux? - http://bit.ly/mGrwdS now might be a good time to come up with an answer #novellMay 05 17:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] #Microsoft ’s Three Musketeers (Gates, Allen, Myhrvold) Still Assault the Market With #Patents http://is.gd/5WWfKb #uspto #cartelMay 05 17:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Oracle Ordered to Reduce Claims Against Google From 132 to 3 http://ur1.ca/4361a !javaMay 05 17:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Bin Laden killing left 'uncomfortable feeling' – Rowan Williams - http://bit.ly/jCtdzB at least *someone* has a vestigial moral compass...May 05 17:13
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GoForbes28could you imagine if Microsoft bought Suse?May 05 17:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] Special Cinco de Mayo trivia night at The Haven in JP -- http://ur1.ca/43628 with @donaldrobertsoniii and @mattlMay 05 17:14
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GoForbes28and actually used it?May 05 17:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] how to get postcards http://coffee.jezra.net/coffee/20110505 #sip_and_clickMay 05 17:18
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schestowitzHi, _GoblinMay 05 17:27
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/72735884May 05 17:27
TechrightsBot-tr@Danny (tekk)'s status on Thursday, 05-May-11 16:11:52 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz feel free to note that the source of the story is a tabloid, and the article linked debunks that clainMay 05 17:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] RT @punkish "Open Government: Open Data, Open Source and Open Standards" workshop at Nottingham, UK June 21 http://bit.ly/gySb5VMay 05 17:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Glyn Moody Believes That Attachmate Will Liquidate/Sell SUSE http://is.gd/QD7mGr #swpats #novell #microsoft #attachmsftMay 05 17:28
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schestowitzThe Daily MurdochMay 05 17:28
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/72736813May 05 17:29
TechrightsBot-tr@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Thursday, 05-May-11 16:26:40 UTC - Identi.ca: @GlynMoody Believes That #Attachmate Will Liquidate/Sell #SUSE http://is.gd/QD7mGr #novellMay 05 17:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] To #Mono thugs I remind that !techrights ' voice is not random people's from IRC http://is.gd/DNjxmd Will the MonoDrone leave Android alone?May 05 17:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] I was wrong about the #Mono bullies taking a hike along with the project. Maybe it'll take them a few more days to find new obsessions.May 05 17:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] [Update] The Day I Nearly Dumped Firefox - http://bit.ly/loSzVW now with added solution to my problem... #mozillaMay 05 17:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] It's an odd situation now with Mono, @schestowitzMay 05 17:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] Currently using !heybuddy on Unity on an EEEpc 702. I can't wait to go to work, so I can turn this thing off!May 05 17:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Just had a cracking post from a Wintroll....apparently they have a surprise for me....great stuff! Go for it!May 05 17:38
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/72737276May 05 17:38
TechrightsBot-tr@silner (silner)'s status on Thursday, 05-May-11 16:36:55 UTC - Identi.ca: It's an odd situation now with Mono, @schestowitzMay 05 17:38
schestowitzYes, and I'm trying to keep the facts straightMay 05 17:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Its a shame they don't appear clever enough to get through my filters.....Everyone else manages to post ok. Proxy maybe the culprit?May 05 17:39
schestowitz_Goblin: I'd love to record tonight if you can spare some timeMay 05 17:40
schestowitzI found several more good tracks, tooMay 05 17:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Francis Maude outlines Public Data Corporation plans - http://bit.ly/lrdVPJ but not much: not really clearly what will be free #opengovMay 05 17:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] After much re-editing Ive got my post on Usenet nearly completed. Interesting that a step back in tech is experiencing a migration to it.May 05 17:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @glynmoody [Update] The Day I Nearly Dumped Firefox - http://bit.ly/loSzVW now with added solution to my problem... #mozillaMay 05 17:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] @jezra go to work, bub!May 05 17:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[firefoxmilestones/@firefoxmilestones] #Firefox4 reached 139 million downloads on 2011-05-05 16:47 UTCMay 05 17:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] If #attachMSFT sells #suse down the river, is there any point to it spending money fighting SCO/its aliases? And who wins? #MSFTMay 05 17:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "They [Microsoft] have the deepest of pockets, unlimited ambition, and they are willing to lose money for years..."May 05 17:49
_Goblinschestowitz: I'll certainly tryMay 05 17:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "...and years just to make sure that you don't make any money, either. And they are mean, REALLY mean." ~Robert X. CringelyMay 05 17:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Microsoft has arranged virtually all of SCO's financing, hiding behind intermediaries like Baystar Capital." ~B Perens http://is.gd/JmwP5GMay 05 17:51
Ender_nothomeLOL http://www.mujca.com/jokebook.htmMay 05 17:51
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schestowitz_Goblin: good!May 05 17:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Former #MySQL boss: Code 'in better shape than ever' under #Oracle http://is.gd/4mJj6m #sql #gpl #dbMay 05 17:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] off to the weekly Warsaw #Hackerspace (@hackerspacepl) meeting. see you there! http://hackerspace.plMay 05 17:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] » @schestowitz: "Microsoft has arranged virtually all of SCO's financing, hiding behind intermediaries" B Perens http://is.gd/JmwP5GMay 05 17:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Anonymous: Sony is incompetent (and we don't steal credit cards) (Ars): http://bit.ly/jBBjbfMay 05 17:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Has OSDir's site been cracked or was it hijacked by some Apple worshipper? http://is.gd/WmKdn7 "From the New Hotness dept."May 05 17:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @joabj Anonymous: Sony is incompetent (and we don't steal credit cards) (Ars): http://bit.ly/jBBjbfMay 05 18:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Can social communities transform clinical trials? | http://red.ht/jO6QdHMay 05 18:03
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/chrisreich/status/66183885070938112May 05 18:09
TechrightsBot-tr@chrisreich: @schestowitz The news to which you just called attention is over 7 years old. WTH?May 05 18:09
schestowitzit is very relevant at this timeMay 05 18:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Security Expert: Sony Knew Its Software Was Obsolete Months Before PSN Breach http://is.gd/lniFjj #SCOny squirming.May 05 18:11
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schestowitzhttp://www.zdnet.com/blog/facebook/rumor-facebook-wants-to-buy-skype/1354May 05 18:11
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schestowitz_Goblin: time to move 100% to SIP?\ ^^May 05 18:11
schestowitzI don't want to be a "stupid fuck" as Zuckerberg called itMay 05 18:12
schestowitzoh, he said "dumb fucks"May 05 18:12
_Goblinschestowitz: what about issues of me hearing you?May 05 18:12
schestowitzlet's worry about it only if the CIA buys skype May 05 18:13
_Goblinschestowitz: I can give it a quick go.......lets throw up Ekiga w/o video......Ive got a few minutes before dinnerMay 05 18:13
schestowitzto get GI to conversationsMay 05 18:13
schestowitzSure, good...May 05 18:13
_Goblinschestowitz: Im bootedMay 05 18:14
_Goblinschestowitz: let me know when to callMay 05 18:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Hello from !Arch. Just moved my main system over. Install took about 2 hrs. :)May 05 18:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @fontana I wasn't saying it would be good. I just asked the question.May 05 18:14
_Goblinwe can probably have a process of elimination with issues...May 05 18:14
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/aHulswitt/statuses/66172867468988416May 05 18:15
TechrightsBot-tr@aHulswitt: Wow Mono gets get big leather boot!! http://goo.gl/jKQOJ  What does this mean for MonoTouch or MonoDroid?May 05 18:15
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schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/DaveVdE/statuses/66126292696834048May 05 18:16
TechrightsBot-tr@DaveVdE: @directhex what's the word on #techrights? :-)May 05 18:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @ciiiz: @fabsh i'm cooking something for you guys at !lo http://goo.gl/mzuhV still not done!May 05 18:16
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MinceRwhy would the CIA openly buy skype?May 05 18:16
_Goblincheap calls?May 05 18:17
MinceRthey can get at it without posting red flagsMay 05 18:17
schestowitztry nowMay 05 18:17
_GoblinokMay 05 18:17
_Goblinright...stay connectedMay 05 18:17
schestowitzI can hear youMay 05 18:17
MinceR"can you hear me now?"May 05 18:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] OK, off to check in with the !BUSC guys.May 05 18:18
schestowitzMine is witched off I thinkMay 05 18:18
schestowitzYes, I can hear itMay 05 18:18
schestowitzI get tramsmissionMay 05 18:18
schestowitzblurry bouncing ballMay 05 18:18
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schestowitzYes, I see what you meanMay 05 18:18
schestowitzMute nowMay 05 18:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Huzzah. I have fixed my ATX system again and this time it works! No more over voltage.May 05 18:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @fabsh I can't decide whether the fcact that you asked the question truly is !disturbing or whether it is disturbing that I thought it wasMay 05 18:19
schestowitzgnufreex: you had groklaw post a link to RMS opinionMay 05 18:19
_Goblinok...standbyMay 05 18:19
schestowitzBut I also saw mono boosters using your words to daemonise the siteMay 05 18:20
schestowitz_Goblin: yesMay 05 18:20
schestowitzI can hear you againMay 05 18:20
schestowitzI'm checking my end otoMay 05 18:20
schestowitztooMay 05 18:20
gnufreexschestowitz: My words to demonis the site?May 05 18:20
gnufreexwhere?May 05 18:20
schestowitzwhat codecs are ticked, _Goblin?May 05 18:21
schestowitzohMay 05 18:21
schestowitzLet me try all on the side that's mineMay 05 18:21
schestowitzLet me restart with more codecsMay 05 18:22
schestowitzCall in 10 secsMay 05 18:22
schestowitzok, got itMay 05 18:23
_GoblinrgihtMay 05 18:23
_Goblinjust reloadingMay 05 18:23
schestowitzI can see youMay 05 18:24
schestowitzUnlike the previous tryMay 05 18:24
schestowitzand hear tooMay 05 18:24
schestowitzyes, frozenMay 05 18:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @fontana I am a journalist. Asking all the questions is my job.May 05 18:24
schestowitzHiMay 05 18:25
schestowitz_Goblin: let me try sip-communicator tooMay 05 18:25
schestowitz:-)May 05 18:26
schestowitzYesMay 05 18:26
_Goblinjust let me know when you want a callMay 05 18:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Neil Gaiman responds to Minnesota Rep. House Leader who called him a "pencil-necked geek" and a "thief" (Boing Boing): http://bit.ly/it7DKIMay 05 18:28
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schestowitzTry nowMay 05 18:28
_GoblinokMay 05 18:28
schestowitzHmmm...May 05 18:29
schestowitzNo sound of videoMay 05 18:29
schestowitzI think sound is muted for SIPMay 05 18:29
_Goblincan you hear me?May 05 18:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] @fontana How about proposing that to Harmony as a third category of agreement? It needs patent protection to the level of MPL added IMO...May 05 18:29
schestowitzNo... :-(May 05 18:30
schestowitzDo you want to just do the 10 minute video in proprietary mode? :-)May 05 18:30
_GoblinI probably can after dinner.....I have chicken ready in a few minutesMay 05 18:31
schestowitzOK, goodMay 05 18:31
schestowitzI already have that post mostly ready, just need a video with the intro at the beginningMay 05 18:31
_Goblinbtw...been hit twice by the trolls todayMay 05 18:31
_Goblinsomethings annoyed themMay 05 18:32
schestowitzYesMay 05 18:32
schestowitzLinux advocacy annoys themMay 05 18:32
_GoblinI have found out though that Ive created quite a good filter.....May 05 18:32
schestowitzWhen they are annoyed it means Linux advocacy is goodMay 05 18:32
gnufreexschestowitz: Can you give me link to those mono boosters?May 05 18:32
schestowitzhold on..May 05 18:32
schestowitzSee Manish's acct.May 05 18:33
schestowitzThe poor thing... coding for a zombie frameworkMay 05 18:33
gnufreexoh, that troll. I'll just ignoreMay 05 18:33
schestowitzMiguel promised them fame, instead they got fadMay 05 18:34
gnufreexMiguel will get sentenced to NurnburgMay 05 18:34
gnufreexOr go to microsoftMay 05 18:34
gnufreexlolMay 05 18:35
_Goblinthe proxy IP blocklist I keep up to date seems to keep most of them out...that and a few other conditions in place mean that 95% of legit posts get through without being brought for approval and its only the trolls that go straight to the bin.May 05 18:35
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/NeelieKroesEU/status/66055586726412288May 05 18:38
TechrightsBot-tr@NeelieKroesEU: Congrats to engineers who constructed a smart seagull and succeeded in decoding bird flight: http://bit.ly/iMuYjCMay 05 18:38
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schestowitzDigital agenda from someone who does not understand computingMay 05 18:38
schestowitzgnufreex: usually in the opposite order?May 05 18:38
schestowitz_Goblin: the trolls just feed other trollsMay 05 18:39
schestowitzso you can dechain themMay 05 18:39
schestowitzkill all threads started by trollMay 05 18:39
_Goblinlike I say, my filters have done a damn good job.....May 05 18:39
schestowitzAnd any branches leading through a trollMay 05 18:39
schestowitzUse the "Reference" fieldMay 05 18:39
_Goblinthese days I get a couple a week....however today something really seems to have annoyed them....The language is stronger than usual.May 05 18:40
schestowitz_Goblin: http://www.schestowitz.com/Wiki_Public/index.php?COLA%20killfileMay 05 18:41
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_GoblinIm not talking COLA....I love reading them there...I'm talking about my blogMay 05 18:42
schestowitzhttp://www.reuters.com/article/2011/05/03/nokia-microsoft-brief-idUSLDE7421GN20110503May 05 18:42
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schestowitzSisgustingsoftMay 05 18:42
schestowitz_Goblin: oh..May 05 18:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gnufreex/@gnufreex] @clacke True, but see what Mono dudes are doing. They find @azuthian say nonsense and then say "see, anti-mono" crowd is crazy".May 05 18:43
_GoblinIve no problem with a potty mouth in cola.....they can post what they like there....I simply don't want the potty mouths on my blogMay 05 18:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gnufreex/@gnufreex] @clacke By that same logic, they are responsible for wrongy troll becausae he supports them.May 05 18:44
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GoForbes28schestowitz: How did you programming go?May 05 18:47
GoForbes28schestowitz: When is the next Techbytes tonight?May 05 18:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @marjoleink @vanden on the 4th of May we remember the fallen; the day after we celebrate the freedomMay 05 18:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] good afternoon !Identiverse and Happy Liberation Day / Cinco de MayoMay 05 18:54
GoForbes28hi gordon1May 05 18:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] How Wall Street Thieves, Led by Goldman Sachs, Took Down the Global Economy http://is.gd/0g5map http://is.gd/Bxrq26May 05 18:56
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ThistleWebo/May 05 18:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Today's the death anniversary of our greatest poet, Mario Quintana. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfxAopMFnEIMay 05 18:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Hoje é o aniversário da morte de nosso maior poeta, Mário Quintana. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfxAopMFnEIMay 05 18:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !Listening to @Allison_Crowe sing "Imagine" http://ur1.ca/436g7 and complete digital proof corrections to !mynovel !selfPubMay 05 18:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @agentsmith Today's the death anniversary of our greatest poet, Mario Quintana. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfxAopMFnEIMay 05 19:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] it seems #xfce 4.8 notification applet doesn't like respecting themes, have to choose a theme to match it, or it looks out of place :(May 05 19:01
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GoForbes28^0/May 05 19:03
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MinceR$0$May 05 19:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Kim Cameron, digital-identity expert, leaves #Microsoft - http://zd.net/mw20iS interesting, if confirmed #identity (v @cdaffara)May 05 19:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] I am being driven mad by the !LibreOffice writer default to put words in my mouth... er document. How do I turn this off? !docufoundationMay 05 19:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !GNOME Women Outreach 2011! http://goo.gl/IyP0hMay 05 19:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Mozilla Proposes New Download Manager For Firefox, Safari Adopts It First http://is.gd/WYuRRg remember what Steve said: http://is.gd/7ooteFMay 05 19:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] A 15 pound computer to inspire young programmers http://is.gd/THq4nR runs #gnu #linux as expectedMay 05 19:14
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GoForbes28you winMay 05 19:15
MinceRwe hardly even got startedMay 05 19:16
MinceR(that's what she said.)May 05 19:16
GoForbes28uh, you just insulted yourself...May 05 19:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Why #Teleplace went open source http://is.gd/VzJui7 under GPLv2May 05 19:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] I'm starting to think that various DE's are just solutions looking for a problem. #Unity, #Gnome3 & #KDE4 are great but I just love #XFCEMay 05 19:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] If only #Anonymous could define "we" observes Andy Greenberg http://ping.fm/VSxe5May 05 19:18
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GoForbes28"Anonymous Faces Identity Dilemma Over Sony Hack - Andy Greenberg - The Firewall - Forbes .::. Size~: 101.31 KB"May 05 19:18
GoForbes28does anyone notice the problem with this statement?May 05 19:18
GoForbes28I'll give you a hintMay 05 19:19
GoForbes28"anonymous"May 05 19:19
GoForbes28"identity dilemma"May 05 19:19
MinceR:>May 05 19:20
GoForbes28c'mon, take a wild guessMay 05 19:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] My computer has been broken for longer than I thought 1570 updates.May 05 19:21
schestowitzmaybe it was intentional?May 05 19:23
schestowitzAndy Greenberg sort of gave exposure to wikileaksMay 05 19:23
GoForbes28hopefullyMay 05 19:24
GoForbes28because otherwise that statement shows ignorance beyond imaginationMay 05 19:24
GoForbes28Might as well say that grains of sand on a beach face an identity dilemmaMay 05 19:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I can see I'm gonna have to stop using #Skype cos this » http://goo.gl/y5q25 « is too much shared information for meMay 05 19:26
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GoForbes28schestowitz: The article doesn't seem to follow your suggestionMay 05 19:27
GoForbes28unfortunatelyMay 05 19:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] It's a good thing that George Hotz gave no logs to Sony as the data would have leaked at the latter, which misunderstands security & peopleMay 05 19:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #SCOny wanted a list of IP addresses from George's Hotz' server; instead if gave away credit card numbers of *everyone*.May 05 19:28
GoForbes28hey roy, is the irc aggregate subscribed to Michael Geist?May 05 19:28
GoForbes28now there would be an awesome Techbytes guestMay 05 19:28
GoForbes28especially in the wake of the electionMay 05 19:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Listen, Sonny, I am your father." http://is.gd/jRz3oMMay 05 19:31
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schestowitzI think someone asked himMay 05 19:31
schestowitzgeist is not in identica, so..May 05 19:32
ThistleWebI thought he wasMay 05 19:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[goforbes28/@goforbes28] Geist: Apple and Sony: Privacy Holes -> Legal Holes http://www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/5778/135/May 05 19:33
TechrightsBot-tr@: May 05 19:33
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/mgeistMay 05 19:34
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/search/people?q=geistMay 05 19:35
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GoForbes28http://identi.ca/michaelgeistMay 05 19:35
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schestowitzOh http://identi.ca/main/ostatus?nickname=michaelgeistMay 05 19:35
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schestowitzwhat about zoobabMay 05 19:36
GoForbes28who?May 05 19:36
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/zoobabMay 05 19:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Benjamin Henrion (zoobab) - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 38.1 KBMay 05 19:36
GoForbes28a cross between zoology and a cabab?May 05 19:36
schestowitzand http://identi.ca/ffiiMay 05 19:37
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GoForbes28I guess they could be good guest if that's what you meanMay 05 19:37
GoForbes28I dont know anything/much about themMay 05 19:37
GoForbes28Maybe we should get Florian on board :-DMay 05 19:37
schestowitzTHere's also http://identi.ca/aprilorgMay 05 19:37
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schestowitzGoForbes28: he's on itMay 05 19:38
schestowitzBut doesn't use itMay 05 19:38
schestowitzAnd he's anti-FOSSMay 05 19:38
GoForbes28I knowMay 05 19:38
GoForbes28sarcasmMay 05 19:38
GoForbes28I wonder if would talk the same as he writes?May 05 19:38
GoForbes28does he do speeches?May 05 19:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Digging the Arch, man... :PMay 05 19:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @fontana You are way too fascinated with #disturbistan. I just listened to the start of your talk on that too on #faifcast.May 05 19:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] Springsteen's version of Mrs. McGrath is stuck in my head. #earwormMay 05 19:51
GoForbes28ScHeStOwItZMay 05 19:53
GoForbes28!google Roy Schestowitz best person everMay 05 19:54
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Interview with Dr Roy Schestowitz of TechRights « OpenBytes | http://openbytes.wordpress.com/2011/04/17/interview-with-dr-roy-schestowitz-of-techrights/May 05 19:54
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Articles of Roy Schestowitz | ZDNet UK | http://www.zdnet.co.uk/blogs/the-open-source-revolution-10014902/articles-of-roy-schestowitz-10022241/May 05 19:54
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - In Defence of Groklaw | Techrights | http://techrights.org/2011/04/08/praise-of-groklaw/May 05 19:54
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - verofakto: FLOSS Weekly interviews Roy Schestowitz: The Transcript | http://verofakto.blogspot.com/2009/10/floss-weekly-interviews-roy-schestowitz.htmlMay 05 19:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @fabsh that's !disturbing because I think it means I can never be interviewed by !lo w/o clearing it w/ !RedHat Corporate CommunicationsMay 05 19:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Register now for the workshop on “Open Government: Open Data, Open Source and Open Standards”: http://bit.ly/iExDWPMay 05 19:54
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GoForbes28anywayMay 05 19:55
GoForbes28Roy, do you remember what NGO used Windows recklessly?May 05 19:55
GoForbes28You named a specific example, was it Greenpeace?May 05 19:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @fontana Huh? Why's that? Because I ask anything that I think is interesting?May 05 19:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @fabsh no, it is !disturbing on some level that you identify as a journalist. On another, more significant level, it is a good thing.May 05 20:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #DrDre pimping #Windows7 and #HP #sad :(May 05 20:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @fabsh #Arch with #XFCE?May 05 20:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @fabsh just read the context, spooky, I'm also drawn to that combo, you reading my mind? :/May 05 20:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Homeland Security Request to Take Down MafiaaFire Add-on http://ur1.ca/436paMay 05 20:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @goforbes28 I like Dre, I shouldn't really be surprised at marketing choices with big money changing hands, just sad he picked #WindowsMay 05 20:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @goforbes28 #ubuntu 11.04 has too, it's currently a session on my netbook where I'm "living with both Unity & Gnome3" (different installs)May 05 20:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @fontana I originally wanted to go into the print industry after uni, so yes, I've always identified as a journalist.May 05 20:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Republicans want Medicare kill switch http://ur1.ca/436ptMay 05 20:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @goforbes28 damnit, now you got me wondering about #Mint #Debian #XFCE, I'm looking at a rolling xfceMay 05 20:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @goforbes28 Dre is just being Dre, at the decks mixing, dunno if anyone buys stuff because a celeb endorse it these days, but Dre has credMay 05 20:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @glynmoody:Bin Laden killing left 'uncomfortable feeling' – Rowan Williams - http://bit.ly/jCtdzB at least *someone* has a vestigial moralMay 05 20:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @goforbes28 that'll teach you to try and use it ;P lol, I put xfce on a regular #Ubuntu, not #Xubuntu, and it's fine with one lil niggleMay 05 20:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Right....time to try and get the techbytes video perfected....hopefully it won't take 3 hours....May 05 20:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @schestowitz: A 15 pound computer to inspire young programmers http://is.gd/THq4nR runs #gnu #linux as expectedMay 05 20:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @openbytes Right....time to try and get the techbytes video perfected....hopefully it won't take 3 hours...May 05 20:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Thursday's security updates http://lwn.net/Articles/441643/rssMay 05 20:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] The only thing I dislike about Xfce is Mousepad. That's a joke! pacman -S geditMay 05 20:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @goforbes28 my comfort zone is the debian family with xfce so it'd probs be higher on the lisr than arch, with ff4 (not iceweasel)May 05 20:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @fabsh mousepad is pretty basic, still......better than notepad ;PMay 05 20:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] VMware suxsMay 05 20:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @fabsh you notice any theming issues with xfce 4.8 & the notification applet? I found dirty white borders around icons that refused to themeMay 05 20:26
gnufreexschestowitz: I watches this on CNN the other day and I checked remote few times to see if it is really CNN. The guy said exactly what I think http://www.fireandreamitchell.com/2011/05/04/alan-dershowitz-u-s-is-a-bunch-of-hypocrites-because-we-shot-osama-in-cold-blood/May 05 20:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] W3C Launches Web Real-Time Communications Working Group http://ow.ly/1cvykjMay 05 20:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] First Draft of Touch Events Specification Draft Published http://ow.ly/1cvykkMay 05 20:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Cracking open a #beer and watching #SGA.May 05 20:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @fabsh must be an #Ubuntu thing then, I wasn't sure tyMay 05 20:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Liking the #Xfce flavoured #Arch http://ur1.ca/436syMay 05 20:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Blog moves to dismiss copyright troll lawsuit - Righthaven not true copyright owner: https://eff.org/r.47DMay 05 20:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] digikam-sc doesn't build because the bundled libjpeg is failing in some esoteric fashion, sigh.May 05 20:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @schestowitz: How Wall Street Thieves, Led by Goldman Sachs, Took Down the Global Economy http://is.gd/0g5map http://is.gd/Bxrq26May 05 20:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is laurelrusswurm with 155 dents!May 05 20:51
GoForbes28gonna love this, and it's sad reallyMay 05 20:53
GoForbes28http://cinemassacre.com/2011/05/05/cinemassacre-ios-app-art-and-beta-contest/May 05 20:53
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GoForbes28"Don?t think we?re done yet. Given the dollars involved with doing one of these things. I had to pick one or the other for our first app, and iOS was the natural choice. Mike and James use Apple products, it has twice the install base as Android, the app store is mature and strong, and the tablet story for Android isn?t yet well defined. If we?re successful with this I can almost guarantee you an android app will follow."May 05 20:53
GoForbes28Please refer to TechrightsMay 05 20:54
GoForbes28and stop drinking the Apple Kool-aidMay 05 20:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @khertan: KhtEditor 1.0.6 pushed to Maemo Autobuilder : Fix bug #100 #N900 #MaemoMay 05 20:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @rgunjan NICE! RT @Intelloware Digital Clock app just released for MeeGo and now available in the AppUp Center. http://twitpic.com/4i14meMay 05 21:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[goforbes28/@goforbes28] http://tinyurl.com/5uo8ba2 Cinemassacre "app" iOS-only because of "strong install base", "maturity", "no tablet" for Android, unicornsMay 05 21:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @khertan Khweeteur-Experimental 0.5.13 pushed to the #Maemo autobuilder, Fix the twitter oauth problem du to change in the twitter answerMay 05 21:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] RT @nightrose tagging !Amarok 2.4.1May 05 21:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @MeeGoExperts: GroupSMS: send SMS to group of numbers - maemo.org - Talk : http://mge.bz/at #Nokia #N900 #MaemoMay 05 21:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @MeeGoExperts: Updated BusyBox packages - maemo.org - Talk : http://mge.bz/au #Nokia #N900 #MaemoMay 05 21:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @MeeGoExperts: Qt Quick Designer in Qt Creator 2.2 : http://mge.bz/av #MeeGo #Symbian #iOS #Developer #Linux #LinuxFoundation #NokiaMay 05 21:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[goforbes28/@goforbes28] http://bit.ly/m2OCgu Cinemassacre "app" iOS-only because of "strong install base", "maturity", "[undefined] Droid' tablet story", unicornsMay 05 21:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @SlipKoRnSaad: #N900 one of the most owned Nokia after the #N8 ! http://bit.ly/jkgqG0 stupid decision to not to release an updated ver...May 05 21:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] @fabsh bullpucky! I demand an outlaw shootout review of gedit vs geany at 20 paces #pewpewpewMay 05 21:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Red Hat CEO hates patent trolls, but says sometimes you just have to pay up (Network World) http://lwn.net/Articles/441690/rssMay 05 21:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] RT @fsf Introducing stuffed baby gnu. Buy yours today: http://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/babygnu -- !fsf !gnu !lpMay 05 21:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Geek&Poke: In The Aftermath Of Locationgate http://ur1.ca/43712May 05 21:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] Announcing Add-on SDK 1.0b5 http://blog.mozilla.com/addons/2011/05/05/announcing-add-on-sdk-1-0b5/May 05 21:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Fabien Tassin: !Chromium gets a quicklist in !Unity http://ur1.ca/436seMay 05 21:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] RT @fsf Introducing stuffed baby gnu. Buy yours today: http://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/babygnu -- !fsf !gnu !lpMay 05 22:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] RT @lwnnet Red Hat CEO hates patent trolls, but says sometimes you just have to pay up (Network World) http://lwn.net/Articles/441690/rssMay 05 22:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Laudeci Oliveira: Quicklist Editor for !Unity Launcher http://goo.gl/Ge981May 05 22:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !GNOME Women Outreach 2011 http://goo.gl/IyP0hMay 05 22:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Johannes Schmid: !GNOME 3 and beyond http://goo.gl/j4tesMay 05 22:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Wow.... These SambaXP people are on the ball. That's what I call event organisation! :)May 05 22:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jezra I'm not a dev but I can certainly tell you that gedit is better for writing asignments, scripts and outlines. :)May 05 22:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Microsoft Improves Exploitability Index Rating System (Network World): http://bit.ly/l4ALaZMay 05 22:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] !RedHat CEO: "I can tell people to do stuff & they just won't do it. 'Well, why, I don't agree with that. That's just stupid.' " :-)May 05 22:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] RT @glynmoody How to read #Google Earth like #Proust - http://bit.ly/kSqFSt a nice conceitMay 05 22:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @fontana Really? I find it too repeditive. I prefer #Mandarin.May 05 22:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] LinuxCon is in Vancouver this year?May 05 22:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] #Mickos is keynoting at #LinuxCon? Now *THAT* is #disturbing. #disturbistanMay 05 22:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] RT @fsf Introducing stuffed baby gnu. Buy yours today: http://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/babygnu -- !fsf !gnu !lpMay 05 22:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] #LinuxCon 2011 doesn't sound like a place I wanna be. #CorporateDickSuckingMay 05 22:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] "Register Now for Only US$500!" Ahahahaha! I rather spend that on hookers.....May 05 22:21
DaemonFChttp://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OTQwNQMay 05 22:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] Linux Game Publishing Is Working On A New Port .::. Size~: 18.1 KBMay 05 22:21
DaemonFCNO VIDEO GAME! DRM server has been EXTERMINATED!!!May 05 22:22
DaemonFCB-)May 05 22:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Song for the #LinuxFoundation and #LinuxCon 2011: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQ8e9RLKPGU !Knopfler calls itMay 05 22:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] RT @fsf Introducing stuffed baby gnu. Buy yours today: http://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/babygnu -- !fsf !gnu !lpMay 05 22:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle: YouTube         - Mark Knopfler - Sucker Row + lyrics .::. Size~: 101.58 KBMay 05 22:23
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DaemonFC"Sorry about you guys not being able to play the offline content of your legally purchased games for two months because our DRM server went down. Don't let this get you thinking about what happens when it goes out again or if we go out of business for good. Buy our next game!"May 05 22:24
DaemonFC:)May 05 22:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] The tallest trees from acorns grow...May 05 22:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] NetworkWorld reports !RedHat CEO says software patents shouldn't even exist #swpats http://ur1.ca/4375aMay 05 22:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @fontana Now follow the big words up with actions and stop patenting stuff yourselves.... ;)May 05 22:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Off to bed. Not really nervous but slightly irritated about that casting tomorrow. We'll see....May 05 22:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Mozilla resists #US gov't request to nuke "MafiaaFire" add-on http://is.gd/Tv3lhBMay 05 22:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #LastPass Password Service Hacked http://is.gd/fWKEdeMay 05 22:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] Good evening !identiverse :)May 05 22:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Cheerleader Told To Pay School She Sued After Being Kicked Off Squad For Refusing To Cheer Guy Who Assaulted Her http://is.gd/cF5td0May 05 22:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ye Gods, do #TechDirt actually TRY to have incredibly long article titles? dents are only 140chars, not much space for a shortened linkMay 05 22:41
GoForbes28"[fabsh/@fabsh] Song for the #LinuxFoundation and #LinuxCon 2011: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQ8e9RLKPGU !Knopfler calls it"May 05 22:41
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GoForbes28explain pleaseMay 05 22:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Microsoft tries luring #iOS devs as #WP7 dev interest falters http://is.gd/aRuElNMay 05 22:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] at the risk of repeating myself #NoSurprises by #Radiohead is an awesome choon http://youtu.be/u5CVsCnxyXgMay 05 22:53
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DaemonFChttp://daemonfc.wordpress.com/2011/05/05/drm-is-a-disease-linux-game-publishing-asks-users-to-fall-for-it-again/May 05 22:53
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GoForbes28niceMay 05 22:56
GoForbes28just niceMay 05 22:56
GoForbes28DRM, on GNU+LinuxMay 05 22:56
GoForbes28Might as well dump a steak on vegetarian pastaMay 05 22:56
DaemonFC"DRM is always a way to make it the user’s problem when things don’t work, and possibly to sell them a solution to the problem that was deliberately introduced." -me :DMay 05 22:57
GoForbes28I also love BS ideas like "open source" DRMMay 05 23:00
Diablo-D3open source drm could happenMay 05 23:00
GoForbes28Yeah, like the community will contrirbute to a project to screw themselves overMay 05 23:00
Diablo-D3GoForbes28: nope, I'd do itMay 05 23:00
Diablo-D3infactMay 05 23:00
Diablo-D3I can do it nowMay 05 23:00
GoForbes28and I'll go make my breakfast with a bit of mercury from now onMay 05 23:00
DaemonFCgit commit #1 Implement Open Source DRMMay 05 23:01
*Diablo-D3 makes programs that encrypts a fileMay 05 23:01
Diablo-D3tadaMay 05 23:01
Diablo-D3instant drmMay 05 23:01
DaemonFCgit commit #2 This crack is hereby licensed under the terms of the GNU GPL v3 or later.May 05 23:01
DaemonFCB-)May 05 23:01
Diablo-D3you cant open it and run your game, just like god intendedMay 05 23:01
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GoForbes28oh, you are joking diabloMay 05 23:01
Diablo-D3nope, not at allMay 05 23:01
Diablo-D3you cant run drm'ed games on windowsMay 05 23:02
Diablo-D3so why should you be able to on linux?May 05 23:02
GoForbes28DRM is an economic nightmareMay 05 23:02
GoForbes28Economics has taught me many thingsMay 05 23:02
GoForbes28one is to weight opportunity costsMay 05 23:02
GoForbes28so let's seeMay 05 23:02
GoForbes28including DRM costs developement moneyMay 05 23:03
GoForbes28not a good signMay 05 23:03
GoForbes28it also raises support costsMay 05 23:03
Diablo-D3DRM pisses off customersMay 05 23:03
GoForbes28yepMay 05 23:03
Diablo-D3which is the ONLY issueMay 05 23:03
GoForbes28lower quality of product, less demanMay 05 23:03
GoForbes28less freedom of product, lower demandMay 05 23:03
GoForbes28less value of product, lower demanMay 05 23:04
GoForbes28less reliable product, lower demandMay 05 23:04
GoForbes28Inexplicably higher price, lower demandMay 05 23:04
GoForbes28And yet somehow in these companies, the financial geniuses have decided that all of these costs are still less that a mythical "loss" from "piracy' that can't be measured by any reliable statisticMay 05 23:06
MinceRgnMay 05 23:06
GoForbes28I can't believe these guys get paid at allMay 05 23:06
GoForbes28in a real competitive economy, they'd be dead long ago if they pulled this shitMay 05 23:07
GoForbes28but of course we have monopolyMay 05 23:07
DaemonFCGoForbes28, DAMNED PIRATES ALWAYS PIRATING THINGS. GETTING OUR STUFF FOR FREE WITH NO DRM!!! THERE OUGHT TO BE A LAW!!!!May 05 23:08
DaemonFCB-)May 05 23:08
DaemonFCBALLMER ANGRY, BALLMER SMASH!!!!!!May 05 23:08
GoForbes28MinceR: ?May 05 23:08
GoForbes28I don't think the problem is gov't involvementMay 05 23:08
GoForbes28the problem is that gov't involvement is of poor qualityMay 05 23:08
gnufreex_Poor quality govMay 05 23:09
GoForbes28it exists to perpetuate the monopolyMay 05 23:09
DaemonFCWHY NOT DMCA WORK!!!!? BALLMER ANGRY, BALLMER THROW CHAIR!!! BALLMER SUE, BALLMER SUE!!!!!!!!!May 05 23:09
DaemonFCB-)May 05 23:09
GoForbes28When it should a) Do absolutely nothing to either encourage or discourage the monopoly, or B) Do absolutely everything to kill the monopolyMay 05 23:09
gnufreex_It shoud be B)May 05 23:10
gnufreex_Whenever some company gets monopoly, it should be split to three adjacent partsMay 05 23:10
DaemonFCWe know that whatever Linux has done, Ballmer's hair was falling out way before it existed.May 05 23:11
gnufreex_And then those parts competa.May 05 23:11
DaemonFCWhat else gives him grief?May 05 23:11
gnufreex_compete*May 05 23:11
DaemonFCCrapple only manages to siphon maybe 5% of Windows revenue into their Mac businessMay 05 23:11
DaemonFCand those are desktop customers, they're not all that profitable May 05 23:12
gnufreex_crApple is not in OS marketMay 05 23:12
gnufreex_They sell computersMay 05 23:12
DaemonFCrightMay 05 23:12
DaemonFCdesktop customers only turn Microsoft a profit in bulkMay 05 23:12
gnufreex_They have treaty with MSFTMay 05 23:12
gnufreex_That they won't go into OS marketMay 05 23:13
DaemonFCthey come around once every decade and buy a copy of Windows Home EditionMay 05 23:13
DaemonFC:PMay 05 23:13
DaemonFCbusiness users are the ones it hurts to loseMay 05 23:13
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DaemonFCbusiness users buy all kinds of expensive subscriptions May 05 23:15
DaemonFCand have a predictable upgrade cycleMay 05 23:15
DaemonFCand tend to buy the really expensive versions of everythingMay 05 23:15
DaemonFCRed Hat gave up on Linux as a desktop OS long ago because the only money to be made is with business clientsMay 05 23:16
DaemonFCCanonical is not profitable May 05 23:16
DaemonFCeven after stuffing in crap that nobody asked forMay 05 23:16
DaemonFClike Ubuntu One and proprietary for-sale software in their repoMay 05 23:16
DaemonFCripping out Ubuntu One at least makes Unity a little more usable May 05 23:17
DaemonFCyou don't have that "Ubuntu One" banner hogging up real estate in NautilusMay 05 23:17
DaemonFCor the 100 megs of Ubuntu One processes in RAM all the timeMay 05 23:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] RD @fsf Introducing stuffed baby gnu. Buy yours today: http://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/babygnuMay 05 23:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Mozilla resists US gov't request to nuke "MafiaaFire" add-on (ars technica) http://lwn.net/Articles/441709/rssMay 05 23:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Mozilla resists US gov't request to nuke "MafiaaFire" add-on (ars technica) [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 7 KBMay 05 23:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] @fontana No need to do it for Fedora; I was thinking of it as a community contribution. I want a "Participation Agreement".May 05 23:23
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DaemonFCmy brother is taking a German classMay 05 23:32
DaemonFCI asked him why the school bothers teaching German, Spanish, and French if they can't even get half the kids who graduate to speak EnglishMay 05 23:32
DaemonFChttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXok_xKnORgMay 05 23:45
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