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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] !linux !floss How safe is a server that bars an IP for a given time after a few wrong log in attempts? #security | May 15 00:06 | |
| schestowitz | quiet in IRC tonight... | May 15 00:12 |
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| schestowitz | Maybe ESC is adding too much noise | May 15 00:12 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: title? | May 15 00:33 |
| _Goblin | mmm | May 15 00:34 |
| _Goblin | The WIP title I had was "Skype, Facebook and weekly musings" | May 15 00:35 |
| sebsebseb | May 15 00:38 | |
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| schestowitz | ok | May 15 00:39 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: | May 15 00:39 |
| schestowitz | Encoding too slow to release | May 15 00:51 |
| schestowitz | too many segments | May 15 00:52 |
| schestowitz | a -piece show was quick to process | May 15 00:52 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[dyfet/@dyfet] @lxoliva technically it is la bruja de sip ;) | May 15 00:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] What the hell is the US army doing running civil engineering projects in the USA? #floods | May 15 01:06 | |
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| MinceR | gn | May 15 01:43 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] How to get rid of this error: " !Fedora Account System and Bugzilla Mismatch. <snip> in the packager group but do not have email addresses" | May 15 01:44 | |
| *Oz_ (637f116a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.127.17.106) has joined #techrights | May 15 01:56 | |
| Oz_ | hi all | May 15 01:56 |
| Oz_ | status | May 15 01:56 |
| schestowitz | hi | May 15 01:56 |
| Oz_ | its empty in here today compared to what its usually like roy | May 15 01:56 |
| schestowitz | new ep coming out soon | May 15 01:57 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/TechBytes/techbytes0045.mp3 | May 15 01:57 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting audio/mpeg type | May 15 01:57 |
| Oz_ | cool! | May 15 01:57 |
| Oz_ | tgreat | May 15 01:57 |
| schestowitz | I'll link to it jn the morning | May 15 01:57 |
| Oz_ | sound good | May 15 01:57 |
| Oz_ | i always look forward to it | May 15 01:57 |
| Oz_ | roy you or anyone here want to do a web cast with me and a friend about freesoftware? | May 15 01:59 |
| Oz_ | roy why is it so empty in here? | May 15 02:06 |
| schestowitz | been q long night | May 15 02:06 |
| schestowitz | and weekend | May 15 02:06 |
| *schestowitz yawns | May 15 02:06 | |
| Oz_ | :) | May 15 02:06 |
| schestowitz | yawning at self, not you :-) | May 15 02:06 |
| schestowitz | gn | May 15 02:06 |
| Oz_ | see ya later | May 15 02:07 |
| schestowitz | backing up techrights server now | May 15 02:07 |
| schestowitz | Gt posts for tomorrow morn | May 15 02:07 |
| Oz_ | roy one thing | May 15 02:07 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Trying out !heybuddy on #fedora | May 15 02:07 | |
| Oz_ | do you feel good knowing novell is gatting cleaned out? that you helped inform people that they violated the publics trust | May 15 02:08 |
| Oz_ | novell is no more soon right? | May 15 02:09 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] I like how @jezra requires feature requests for !heybuddy to be sent by postcard :-) | May 15 02:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Refining ban on "life is good" dents. Issue is complex. !problematic | May 15 02:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] What to expect from the WikiLeaks Grand Jury http://alturl.com/fzm85 | May 15 02:32 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: 2011-05-14 This Week in WikiLeaks - Atty. Jim Fennerty on Grand Juries as a Tool for Political Repression #StopFBI | WL Central .::. Size~: 19.61 KB | May 15 02:32 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] #IMF head #Strauss-Kahn, frontrunner for 2012 #France presidential election arrested for alleged sexual attack http://ur1.ca/46ku4 | May 15 02:46 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Spun right? "Singapore’s founding father Lee Kuan Yew quits Cabinet after party’s worst election since 1965" http://ur1.ca/46kw9 #sgelection | May 15 03:01 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Singapore’s founding father Lee Kuan Yew quits Cabinet after party’s worst election since 1965 - The Washington Post .::. Size~: 81.49 KB | May 15 03:01 |
| GoForbes28 | hi all | May 15 03:02 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] RT @MikeMagee111: BBC Radio 4 now is worried because Scotland is independent. When we are, we don't need the effing bloody English BBC | May 15 03:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] yay! Teiid 7.4 released. Open source data federation tool - http://teiid.blogspot.com/2011/05/teiid-74-final-released.html | May 15 03:36 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: teiid: Teiid 7.4 Final Released .::. Size~: 90.93 KB | May 15 03:36 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] Local geek kid dropped in - should have seen his eyes bug out when he saw 500+ #Linux install discs on my desk :) | May 15 03:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks comic relief, from the Russian exiled, eXile http://is.gd/Yyfkw0 | May 15 03:47 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] FBI tried to bribe Boston activist to inform on WikiLeaks & Bradley Manning supporters http://is.gd/qFgxvE | May 15 03:52 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Bradley Manning Activist Explains Why He's Suing the Government - National - The Atlantic Wire .::. Size~: 50.37 KB | May 15 03:52 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] @fontana that way, I can just say "oh, it must have gotten lost in the mail" when I don't like the request. /me is sneaky | May 15 03:56 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] ACLU video on new lawsuit http://is.gd/Lm0Ucf | May 15 04:07 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Political Organizer's Laptop Seized | American Civil Liberties Union .::. Size~: 49.6 KB | May 15 04:07 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks Peru starts again for election http://elcomercio.pe/ | May 15 04:12 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] It keeps getting better!: http://wp.me/pj2fj-rW #sgelection | May 15 04:27 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: It keeps getting better! « life one degree north, one-o-three degrees east .::. Size~: 41.52 KB | May 15 04:27 |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OTQ0Nw | May 15 05:01 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Heding to Zagred for http://www.dorscluc.org/raspored/ - anyone up for StatusMeet/TweetUp this evening? Need help as firsttimer in Zagreb :) | May 15 07:09 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Speling at morning. Heading to Zagreb. http://www.dorscluc.org/raspored/ Wish me luck that I find decent taxi to hotel :-) | May 15 07:11 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] RT @icetwy !jamendo > #ESC (& non-free music) | May 15 07:31 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] Enjoying a morning listening to the Spanish #esc2011 song that should have won and the Azeri song of 2009, much better than that of 2011. | May 15 07:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] What a swindle! Amazon Removes Yaoi Manga Titles From Kindle Store - http://ur1.ca/46lxd | May 15 07:41 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] RT @swadeshine FINALLY. “This is the beginning of the end of petroleum-based plastics.” > http://gizmo.do/ma52sf | May 15 08:04 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Behold Pepsi's 100% Plant-Based Plastic Bottle .::. Size~: 117.17 KB | May 15 08:04 |
| DaemonFC | http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Canadian_rapper_Bad_News_Brown_murdered_in_Montreal | May 15 08:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Canadian rapper Bad News Brown murdered in Montreal - Wikinews, the free news source .::. Size~: 44.94 KB | May 15 08:05 |
| DaemonFC | they do have good taste in music I guess | May 15 08:08 |
| DaemonFC | "Quebec is the only province in Canada that opted out of the CPP. The Quebec Pension Plan, or QPP, is the province of Quebec's own version of the Canada Pension Plan. Almost mirroring the CPP exactly, the QPP is a contributory earnings-related pension plan that pays benefits in the event of the earner becoming disabled, retiring, or dying. Both Quebec and the federal government tax benefits paid from the QPP." | May 15 08:12 |
| DaemonFC | So they tax you, then when you retire, they pay out | May 15 08:12 |
| DaemonFC | but they tax you again | May 15 08:12 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 15 08:12 |
| DaemonFC | My grandmother was mad that the US Social Security laws only let her make $30,000 a year before she'd have to start returning some of the Social Security money (that they don't tax, btw.) | May 15 08:13 |
| DaemonFC | told her if she wasn't so keen on living beyond her means, that wouldn't be a problem | May 15 08:14 |
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| oiaohm | DaemonFC: She should be thankful. Not all countries have a retirement plan. | May 15 08:23 |
| DaemonFC | In some countries, they're too busy starving to death and dying of Malaria and AIDS to need one...ungrateful bitch... | May 15 08:25 |
| DaemonFC | whoops, did I just say that? :P | May 15 08:25 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !TechBytes Episode 45: Skype,#Facebook, and Weekly Musings http://is.gd/6Db5o5 | May 15 08:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] #TechBytes Episode 45: Skype,#Facebook, and Weekly Musings http://is.gd/6Db5o5 | May 15 08:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[techbytes/@techbytes] #TechBytes Episode 45: Skype,#Facebook, and Weekly Musings http://is.gd/6Db5o5 | May 15 08:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[bytesmedia/@bytesmedia] #TechBytes Episode 45: Skype,Facebook, and Weekly Musings http://is.gd/6Db5o5 | May 15 08:26 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @fontana #IMF head #Strauss-Kahn, frontrunner for 2012 #France presidential election arrested for alleged sexual attack http://ur1.ca ... | May 15 08:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @ddevine Checking out #Prey for tracking mobile devices - they're trying to push "open source" but it's pointless when you can't run ... | May 15 08:42 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Patents Roundup: Kodak Dinosaur Wins Against Apple, #Patent Trolls Attack the Small Guy, and #USPTO Does Nothing Right http://is.gd/CDU4v8 | May 15 08:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Kodak Dinosaur Wins Against Apple, Patent Trolls Attack the Small Guy, and USPTO Does Nothing Right http://is.gd/CDU4v8 #swpats | May 15 08:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @fontana #IMF head #Strauss-Kahn, frontrunner for 2012 #France presidential election arrested for alleged sexual attack ... | May 15 08:46 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ES: La "Función" Principal de Vista 7 Es Permitir el Acceso a Intrusos http://is.gd/b05Mt3 #vista7 #security | May 15 08:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] RT @gabrielsaldana @stav just wait for honeycomb upgrade. Gtalk works great with video calls. | May 15 08:54 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: ES: La “Función” Principal de Vista 7 Es Permitir el Acceso a Intrusos | Techrights .::. Size~: 90.97 KB | May 15 08:54 |
| DaemonFC | http://phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?52175-AMD-s-Hiring-Open-Source-Graphics-Developers-Still&p=207895#post207895 | May 15 08:57 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: AMD's Hiring Open-Source Graphics Developers Still .::. Size~: 39.03 KB | May 15 08:57 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ES: Microsoft Todavía Abusa de su Plataforma Monopólica http://is.gd/g3DiwR #antitrust #microsoft | May 15 09:01 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: ES: Microsoft Todavía Abusa de su Plataforma Monopólica | Techrights .::. Size~: 90.26 KB | May 15 09:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Gtalk works great with Video Calls on !android Honeycomb RD of @gabrielsaldana #fb #nomicrosoftskype | May 15 09:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] [FOTOGRAFII] Garden party la Palatul Elisabeta http://is.gd/lGnmyh #romania #monarchy #bucharest #politics #mihai | May 15 09:06 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Garden Party 2011 la Palatul Elisabeta « Romania. Altfel .::. Size~: 12.7 KB | May 15 09:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[firefoxmilestones/@firefoxmilestones] #Firefox4 reached 161 million downloads on 2011-05-15 08:12 UTC | May 15 09:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] French #Hadopi “3 Strikes” Anti-Piracy Company Hacked - http://bit.ly/jT0Xl6 sounds like #acs:law fiasco all over again #copyright | May 15 09:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #WikiLeaks £12m Legal Gag: a legal analysis - http://bit.ly/ihcIZj interesting perspective: what they *should* have done | May 15 09:17 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: French Hadopi “3 Strikes” Anti-Piracy Company Hacked | TorrentFreak .::. Size~: 26.57 KB | May 15 09:17 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[torproject/@torproject] 2011 Stockholm Hackfest Thanks: https://blog.torproject.org/blog/2011-stockholm-hackfest-thanks | May 15 09:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Magnetic core memory reborn - http://bit.ly/knxiP0 as an add-on for the ever-more wonderful #arduino | May 15 09:26 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: 2011 Stockholm Hackfest Thanks | The Tor Blog .::. Size~: 13.4 KB | May 15 09:26 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Historic #climate change deal with legal powers agreed by Cabinet - http://bit.ly/kigTVn sounds impressive - but will it amount to much? #uk | May 15 09:29 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Historic climate change deal with legal powers agreed by Cabinet | Environment | The Observer .::. Size~: 133.56 KB | May 15 09:29 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Peaved that !lastfm allows people outside the US to scrobble all our music, but not to listen to it on !android ! OUR music makes YOUR site! | May 15 09:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Dominique Strauss-Kahn accused of sex attack on maid - http://bit.ly/laOKOK #sarko gets lucky again #france | May 15 09:34 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Dominique Strauss-Kahn accused of sex attack on maid | World news | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 87.38 KB | May 15 09:34 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Just won the Lottery!! €8 woot! Still dreaming of all the things i'm going to buy :P | May 15 09:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @glynmoody Is #Portugal about to make Creative Commons illegal? - http://bit.ly/jkWWac will become a laughing-stock if it does... (v ... | May 15 09:36 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[kernellogauthor/@kernellogauthor] GRUB 1.99 released http://bit.ly/iu2ceg | May 15 09:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @ml2mst (1) How to remove #mono including its apps on #ubuntu 11.04: sudo apt-get purge mono-runtime cli-common | May 15 09:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[kernellogauthor/@kernellogauthor] Jonathan Corbet - What’s up with ARM http://bit.ly/loqGLW | May 15 09:37 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: GRUB 1.99 released .::. Size~: 10.15 KB | May 15 09:37 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Just created a favicon and banner for front page of @bytesmedia http://bytesmedia.co.uk/ cc @openbytes | May 15 09:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Ex-SAS Soldier Avoids Conflict in Book #Piracy Battle - http://bit.ly/lAuGYO "legal #ebooks need to bring more value than pirated ones" | May 15 09:39 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[kernellogauthor/@kernellogauthor] 2.6.39-rc7-git7 - Reported regressions from: 2.6.38 http://bit.ly/mE0suJ (11 unresolved) 2.6.37 -> 2.6.38 http://bit.ly/jPADqW (20) #linux | May 15 09:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @x1101 @fabsh agreed. It went from 'linux for human beings' to 'linux for mac users' | May 15 09:41 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Governments can make the #semanticweb a reality - http://bit.ly/jRftMA can they? will they? | May 15 09:44 | |
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| DaemonFC | Ubuntu is Linux for knuckle dragging mouth breathers.....yeah, Mac users. "Where's the power button?" "Which of these are the any key?" "Why does this mouse have two buttons? I think it's broken" | May 15 09:51 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/69678336309334017 http://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/69679805561446401 http://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/69680035191209984 | May 15 09:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @FOSSpatents: @schestowitz My tweet to the FFII wasn't about swpats being valid in EU -- those app devs are targeted since they sell their apps in the US. | May 15 09:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @FOSSpatents: @schestowitz However, concerning EU swpats, look at this: http://fosspatents.blogspot.com/2011/04/at-least-9-apple-patents-asserted.html | May 15 09:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> Title: FOSS Patents: At least 9 Apple patents asserted against Nokia in UK and Germany are European software patents .::. Size~: 70 KB | May 15 09:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @FOSSpatents: @schestowitz It's interesting that the FFII did a factually grossly inaccurate press release on Barnes&Noble but is silent about Lodsys. | May 15 09:54 |
| schestowitz | g2g meet a mate | May 15 09:54 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Like where you tap your foot 3 times or just friends? | May 15 09:57 |
| DaemonFC | j/k :P | May 15 09:57 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @glynmoody #WikiLeaks £12m Legal Gag: a legal analysis - http://bit.ly/ihcIZj interesting perspective: what they *should* have done | May 15 10:02 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Jack of Kent: WikiLeaks £12m Legal Gag: a legal analysis .::. Size~: 105.35 KB | May 15 10:02 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Being #British: How has the internet affected our national #identity? - http://bit.ly/mSg1MO unusual & interesting viewpoint | May 15 10:09 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Being British: How has the internet affected our national identity? | Technology | The Observer .::. Size~: 229.78 KB | May 15 10:09 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] !TechBytes Episode 45: Skype, Facebook, and Weekly Musings http://tinyurl.com/63vpqoj | May 15 10:29 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @wayneborean You think it is cheaper putting engineers in the army to do not much then wheel them out every now and then? | May 15 10:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] #Libya. Are Sarkozy, Cameron, Obama and their families fair game for the Libyan's like Gaddafi and his familly are? (four killed so far) | May 15 10:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] RT @openbytes !TechBytes Episode 45: Skype, Facebook, and Weekly Musings http://tinyurl.com/63vpqoj | May 15 10:41 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Off up the mountain for a barbecue at a friends' house today :) | May 15 10:52 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Just logged into Twitter website, what happened to the design? it's bloody sloooow as well. Just saw I have a shitload of @reply's as well. | May 15 11:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] @richslxh Changed my Twitter profile to say that Tweets come from identi.ca so I will not sdee your @replys ^^ | May 15 11:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Testing out new !identicurse 0.7 Nice little bar along the bootom :) | May 15 11:14 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] @richslxh s/botoom/bottom/g | May 15 11:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Carlos Tevez £47m. David Silva £30m. Yaya Toure £25m. Edin Dzeko £27m. Mario Baliotelli £24m. Winning the FA cup: Pricey. #Citeh !football | May 15 11:19 | |
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| sebsebseb | Hi | May 15 11:43 |
| DaemonFC | Limewire disabled their program on users computers using a backdoor | May 15 11:46 |
| DaemonFC | heh | May 15 11:46 |
| DaemonFC | I don't see what the point in shutting down Limewire is | May 15 11:48 |
| DaemonFC | LULZ, I HAS LIMEWIRE, I IS MIGHTY PIRATE!!!! ARRRGH!!! | May 15 11:48 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 15 11:49 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] RT @evilsocket I'm in love with identi.ca and its tech-geek-users, not like twit-im-a-gay-teen-ter | May 15 11:49 | |
| DaemonFC | anyway, the core program was licensed under the GPL, so the code is out there | May 15 11:49 |
| DaemonFC | at least one fork exists (Frostwire) | May 15 11:50 |
| DaemonFC | all of the limitations of the freeware version were compile time options, and the only reason anyone bought it was because, well, they're using Windows and they don't know what source code is, and they don't have a compiler | May 15 11:51 |
| DaemonFC | so given all that, maybe $30 sounds reasonable | May 15 11:51 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 15 11:51 |
| DaemonFC | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LimeWire_Pirate_Edition | May 15 11:55 |
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| DaemonFC | lol | May 15 11:55 |
| DaemonFC | my favorite of the pre-bittorrent networks was actually WinMX | May 15 11:58 |
| DaemonFC | they had their own network, but it also supported the Napster protocol :) | May 15 11:58 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Sunday Times "The Social List" - http://bit.ly/iPq7Sq another #fail: wants my permission to write to Twitter - get lost, mate (v @adders) | May 15 12:01 | |
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| MinceR | i prefer eDonkey/eMule | May 15 12:02 |
| MinceR | it also has a DHT-based network | May 15 12:03 |
| DaemonFC | There was also Shareaza | May 15 12:04 |
| DaemonFC | I think they GPL'd that | May 15 12:04 |
| DaemonFC | Then there was one called Earthstation 5 which was really ran by the RIAA | May 15 12:04 |
| DaemonFC | they claimed it was being ran out of "Palestine" where you were "safe" | May 15 12:04 |
| DaemonFC | then wouldn't you know, a bunch of their users get sued | May 15 12:05 |
| DaemonFC | lets see, a proprietary program gets released on some website, the guy behind the "company" is a pseudonym, it's impossible to verify if he actually has anyone working for him as he claims, the server is in Israel but that tells you nothing | May 15 12:07 |
| DaemonFC | do we install it? hell no | May 15 12:07 |
| DaemonFC | the only reason I even remember that one is because it struck me as odd and I did a little digging | May 15 12:08 |
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| DaemonFC | What the hell is Ascension? KDE's calendar says June 3 is "Ascension - United States of America" That's not a federal holiday | May 15 12:12 |
| *DaemonFC throws on his finest pajamas and heads to Walmart | May 15 12:16 | |
| DaemonFC | :P | May 15 12:16 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Barcbecue time - Laters !identiverse :) | May 15 12:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Back home in Bonn after a long weekend in Simmerath. | May 15 12:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] It is amazing how much !FLOSS you can stuff on an 8GB netbook. | May 15 12:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] #lo207 test | May 15 12:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] There is a plethora of jQuery plugins on the web. Pluginquery is a database of such plugins. - http://www.pluginquery.com | May 15 12:42 | |
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| MinceR | geekings | May 15 12:46 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !TechBytes Episode 45: Skype Sold, Facebooks AstroTurfs http://is.gd/tLa6Rp | May 15 12:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] #TechBytes Episode 45: Skype Sold, Facebooks AstroTurfs http://is.gd/tLa6Rp | May 15 12:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[techbytes/@techbytes] TechBytes Episode 45: Skype Sold, Facebooks AstroTurfs http://is.gd/tLa6Rp | May 15 12:49 | |
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| schestowitz | I messed up the URL... :-< | May 15 12:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[bytesmedia/@bytesmedia] !TechBytes Episode 45: Skype Sold, Facebooks AstroTurfs http://is.gd/Voi2uf http://is.gd/PotCCJ | May 15 12:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[techbytes/@techbytes] #TechBytes Episode 45: Skype Sold, Facebooks AstroTurfs http://is.gd/Voi2uf http://is.gd/PotCCJ | May 15 12:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] #TechBytes Episode 45: Skype Sold, Facebooks AstroTurfs http://is.gd/Voi2uf http://is.gd/PotCCJ | May 15 12:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #TechBytes Episode 45: Skype Sold, Facebooks AstroTurfs http://is.gd/Voi2uf http://is.gd/PotCCJ | May 15 12:51 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] Acid is good for rough skin | May 15 12:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] New !PonyExpress 5.0-RC release, get it while it's hot: http://outl.ws/0z !LO | May 15 12:54 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Kilmarnock must have thought erroneously lay down croppy meant them. #spl | May 15 13:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @glynmoody: Being #British: How has the internet affected our national #identity? - http://bit.ly/mSg1MO unusual & interesting viewpoint | May 15 13:02 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] Hello !identiverse :) | May 15 13:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @glynmoody: Ex-SAS Soldier Avoids Conflict in Book #Piracy Battle - http://bit.ly/lAuGYO "legal #ebooks need to bring more value... | May 15 13:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @schestowitz: RT @ml2mst (1) How to remove #mono including its apps on #ubuntu 11.04: sudo apt-get purge mono-runtime cli-common | May 15 13:11 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[techbytes/@techbytes] #TechBytes show notes for Episode 45 are now out “Skype, Facebook and weekly musings” http://is.gd/WezHwp HT @openbytes | May 15 13:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] TechBytes show notes for Episode 45 are now out “Skype, Facebook and weekly musings” http://is.gd/WezHwp HT @openbytes | May 15 13:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #TechBytes show notes for Episode 45 are now out http://is.gd/WezHwp HT @openbytes | May 15 13:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @glynmoody: #WikiLeaks £12m Legal Gag: a legal analysis - http://bit.ly/ihcIZj interesting perspective: what they *should* have done | May 15 13:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Rendering a new !miners map... | May 15 13:12 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Deleting #mono from GNU/Linux distros has just become easier. chown #attachmate /home/mono/ && rm -rf /home/mono/ && echo 'system cleaned' | May 15 13:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] does !choqok support message-indicator applet? I seem to find conflicting statements on that on Teh Intertubes | May 15 13:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] Want to help select featured add-ons? Apply now! http://blog.mozilla.com/addons/2011/05/15/want-to-help-select-featured-add-ons-apply-now/ | May 15 13:22 | |
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| *schestowitz found http://wiki.audacityteam.org/wiki/Recording_audio_playing_on_the_computer | May 15 13:31 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Great. As soon as I wanna play, the server dies..... m( !miners | May 15 13:41 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Geek & Poke: Apps http://goo.gl/SartB | May 15 13:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #WebUpd8: Real Files / Folders Search !Unity Lens: Unity Place Filesearch http://goo.gl/hZmgY | May 15 13:46 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] find the craziest stuff on taobao: amiga ecs, full chipset for just 10 yuan = 1.50 Euro | May 15 14:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] Three possible !Linux replacements for #Microsoft #Skype suggested by Susan Linton http://bit.ly/jKVbHn via @silner | May 15 14:09 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] RT @danielmarti !identica people, use http://ur1.ca for web address shortening, it is GPL'ed. !GPLv3 | May 15 14:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @faconti: Vc se sente um Pateta? ...$$ do #MInc, renuncia fiscal p projeto privado d 1 empresa dos EUA? http://www.ur1.ca/46m3g #meganao | May 15 14:11 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] Three possible !Linux replacements for #Microsoft #Skype suggested by Susan Linton http://bit.ly/jKVbHn via @silner | May 15 14:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] λ♥[love] - http://bit.ly/mGaRvN (analysis: http://bit.ly/lUHf50) surely the ultimate #geek anthem? #lambdacalculus | May 15 14:17 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] !Listening to the Firefly soundtrack | May 15 14:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] Shuttleworth Hints at Possible Proprietarisation Plans http://lxnews.org/2011/05/15/shuttleworth-proprietarisation-plans/ | May 15 14:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] New Privacy Laws in #India and #China Could Make IT Outsourcing Ugly - http://bit.ly/laajO8 thorny got thornier (v @NomDuClavier) #privacy | May 15 14:21 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @lxnews: Shuttleworth Hints at Possible Proprietarisation Plans http://lxnews.org/2011/05/15/shuttleworth-proprietarisation-plans/ !lo | May 15 14:22 | |
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| ThistleWeb | feedback on ep 45 of TechBytes, ya missed 2 angles for Microsoft buying Skype, patent extortion on any other VoIP solution with Skypes patent pool, and VoIP integration into MS Office for office collaboration, meaning you won't be able to take part without that edition of MS Office = more lockin, at a time when DOJ oversight ends | May 15 14:23 |
| ThistleWeb | possibly even using MS's cloud to provide the server end, so you need to pay a subscription to use that feature in MS Office, price varied by use etc like the current "enterprise" "howm & student" etc | May 15 14:24 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Silver lining for #music fans in Lime Wire case - http://cnet.co/libVQP interesting, plausible analysis #digital | May 15 14:24 | |
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| ThistleWeb | just because Microsoft bought Skype doesn't mean they'll stick to the client, they'll no doubt try to use the underlying technology to integrate into other stuff such as shared document collaboration with a Skype button in Word | May 15 14:25 |
| amarsh04 | two new CD's two older pieces of music: Hiromi Uehara plays "Beethoven's Piano Sonata No. 8, Pathetique", and as part of an anime soundtrack Shostakovich Symphony No. 7 in C major, Opus 60 "Leningrad" first movement | May 15 14:26 |
| amarsh04 | shades of sharepoint, ThistleWeb | May 15 14:26 |
| ThistleWeb | I can see them removing skype from iOS and Android too, making it a selling point for wp7 | May 15 14:27 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Bedrock's lawyers against Google were called McKool Smith? Realy?? Awesome! :D !lo | May 15 14:27 | |
| amarsh04 | or wp7 being a first class skype citizen and other mobile platforms being limited in skype functionality | May 15 14:28 |
| ThistleWeb | skype is a verb, just as google is | May 15 14:28 |
| ThistleWeb | or that, slower updates etc | May 15 14:28 |
| ThistleWeb | theres a huge difference between features on the windows skype, and linux one.....to be honest the linux one seems to have everything you'd actually want, where the windows one has LOADS of stuff you'd never use and just adds clutter | May 15 14:29 |
| amarsh04 | I still have a Telstra landline service, mainly because it means that if the phone line used for adsl goes bad, one can lodge a voice fault directly with Telstra rather than through the isp providing adsl service | May 15 14:30 |
| MinceR | skype, v. To hand ownership of a computer to micro$oft? | May 15 14:30 |
| amarsh04 | I have voip through the isp (sip), with a real telephone number | May 15 14:30 |
| ThistleWeb | skype is one of many walled gardens, to keep users | May 15 14:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @glynmoody New Privacy Laws in #India and #China Could Make IT Outsourcing Ugly - http://bit.ly/laajO8 thorny got thornier (v @NomDuC ... | May 15 14:31 | |
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| amarsh04 | yes, I hate the walled gardens | May 15 14:31 |
| ThistleWeb | they know that after you build your social network around that one walled garden your only choice is to either keep using it, or give up on all that contact | May 15 14:31 |
| ThistleWeb | willingly abandon regular contact with all those people because they all use a network / client you no longer want to | May 15 14:32 |
| ThistleWeb | they know there's social pressure there to stay, even if you have to work through a VM, compatibility layer, have a bugger older client etc | May 15 14:32 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] RT @lxnews Shuttleworth Hints at Possible Proprietarisation Plans http://lxnews.org/2011/05/15/shuttleworth-proprietarisation-plans/ | May 15 14:32 | |
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| amarsh04 | a postal address, email address and telephone number should be enough means of contact | May 15 14:33 |
| ThistleWeb | they're all like that, the difference is that the others have fully working chat services in other clients like empathy, pidgin, kopete etc | May 15 14:33 |
| ThistleWeb | skype not so much | May 15 14:34 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @wayneborean It had shades of the Sunderland, Leeds final in 1973 #football | May 15 14:36 | |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: I wonder why this didn't show in here, oh well: http://identi.ca/notice/73554624 | May 15 14:36 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Sebastian (sebsebseb)'s status on Sunday, 15-May-11 13:00:42 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz I like your Critique of Mobile Phones Culture http://is.gd/8jSk2H #opinion blog post :)! | May 15 14:36 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @wayneborean Without the underdog outcome. | May 15 14:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @lxnews Shuttleworth Hints at Possible Proprietarisation Plans http://lxnews.org/2011/05/15/shuttleworth-proprietarisation-plans/ | May 15 14:38 | |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.alphaila.com/articles/failure/how-windows-7-is-epic-fail/ | May 15 14:39 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @wayneborean :) | May 15 14:39 | |
| *koolhead171 is now known as koolhead17 | May 15 14:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] !Miners Server still down, but we have a new map: http://alain.sixgun.org/map/ | May 15 14:41 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | May 15 14:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Lodged a ticket about the !miners server with the host. | May 15 14:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @marxistvegan: loving the night view of the Penguins Arena http://alain.sixgun.org/map/?x=-65&y=64&z=-600&zoom=-1 | May 15 14:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[techbytes/@techbytes] .@openbytes needs you in IRC, got some great news | May 15 14:59 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @cosmicemma: I can't believe the playstation network is still down! :( | May 15 15:01 | |
| schestowitz | [14:23] <ThistleWeb> feedback on ep 45 of TechBytes, ya missed 2 angles for Microsoft buying Skype, patent extortion on any other VoIP solution with Skypes patent pool, and VoIP integration into MS Office for office collaboration, meaning you won't be able to take part without that edition of MS Office = more lockin, at a time when DOJ oversight ends | May 15 15:02 |
| schestowitz | +1! | May 15 15:02 |
| schestowitz | [14:36] <sebsebseb> schestowitz: I wonder why this didn't show in here, oh well: http://identi.ca/notice/73554624 | May 15 15:03 |
| schestowitz | :-)) | May 15 15:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Sebastian (sebsebseb)'s status on Sunday, 15-May-11 13:00:42 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz I like your Critique of Mobile Phones Culture http://is.gd/8jSk2H #opinion blog post :)! | May 15 15:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> Title: schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » Critique of Mobile Phones Culture .::. Size~: 39.74 KB | May 15 15:03 |
| schestowitz | it starts with @ | May 15 15:03 |
| *koolhead17 is now known as koolhead17|afk | May 15 15:06 | |
| *hemimaniac has quit (Quit: I got raided by CSIS and all i got to keep was this lousy QUIT message!!) | May 15 15:06 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, SHuttleworth bagged on Fedora when Ubuntu really does the same thing | May 15 15:07 |
| DaemonFC | the 6 month releases are basically unstable playgrounds | May 15 15:07 |
| DaemonFC | then the corporate customers who don't care about using 500 year old software stick to an LTS | May 15 15:07 |
| DaemonFC | individuals don't have it that easy, because they tend to buy things like new video cards, which don't even tend to work if you go back a year on a Linux distribution | May 15 15:09 |
| DaemonFC | much less the 5 years those things are "supported" | May 15 15:09 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: One difference fedora does not patch as much. | May 15 15:10 |
| DaemonFC | they say they add new hardware support, that must be why DVI out on a RadeonHD doesn't work at all, even with the latest 10.04 update on the live CD | May 15 15:10 |
| ThistleWeb | the new c64 does run ubuntu 10.04 btw, the LTS one, look at the small print on the site | May 15 15:10 |
| DaemonFC | ewww | May 15 15:10 |
| DaemonFC | :P | May 15 15:10 |
| ThistleWeb | small print also states "it's Windows compatible" | May 15 15:10 |
| DaemonFC | you mean the one with a C64 emulator, of which there are several? | May 15 15:10 |
| ThistleWeb | the new PC in the old school c64 case | May 15 15:11 |
| DaemonFC | or the collection of C64 software from the 1980s that you can download from an abandonware site | May 15 15:11 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] How was this post-election forum? http://theonlinecitizen.com/2011/05/maruah-toc-present-post-elections-public-forum/ #sgelection | May 15 15:11 | |
| DaemonFC | probably all in the same ZIP file | May 15 15:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: MARUAH & TOC present: Post-Elections public forum | The Online Citizen .::. Size~: 93.33 KB | May 15 15:11 |
| ThistleWeb | with an old c64 emulator included | May 15 15:11 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, it's pretty disingenuous | May 15 15:11 |
| DaemonFC | an ugly PC with a crappy operating system and an emulator of a crappy operating system from 1982 | May 15 15:12 |
| DaemonFC | at least this time you don't get any malfunctioning 5 1/4" disk drives I guess | May 15 15:12 |
| ThistleWeb | yeah because 8bit power is all the rage these days | May 15 15:12 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 15 15:12 |
| DaemonFC | the C64 had a few decent games in spite of being woefully underpowered | May 15 15:13 |
| DaemonFC | the problem was that things like an AD&D game spanned 4-5 disks | May 15 15:13 |
| DaemonFC | and the drives went out, a lot | May 15 15:14 |
| DaemonFC | or the disk would become corrupted | May 15 15:14 |
| DaemonFC | that'd suck, you get 80% through the game and "Please enter disk #5" and it turns out to be corrupt :) | May 15 15:15 |
| DaemonFC | it's nostalgia that will sell a few of those things | May 15 15:15 |
| DaemonFC | people who have forgotten after 20+ years how badly they wanted to take a clawhammer to the original | May 15 15:15 |
| DaemonFC | :D | May 15 15:16 |
| DaemonFC | that entire decade is notable for being crapflooded with all kinds of inferior home computers | May 15 15:17 |
| DaemonFC | the only decent thing I think there was, was Commodore's Amiga | May 15 15:17 |
| DaemonFC | good hardware, good operating system, nothing else even came close | May 15 15:18 |
| DaemonFC | that's why you couldn't find one at KMart :) | May 15 15:18 |
| DaemonFC | if they want to bring back something, then they should port AmigaOS 4.x to the PC | May 15 15:18 |
| MinceR | finally, you can have an OS with no memory protection in the 3rd millennium? | May 15 15:20 |
| DaemonFC | heh | May 15 15:20 |
| DaemonFC | still better than Ubuntu | May 15 15:21 |
| MinceR | nope | May 15 15:21 |
| MinceR | canonical didn't get around to fucking up the kernel yet | May 15 15:21 |
| DaemonFC | the user experience of AmigaOS4 is preferable to Unity | May 15 15:21 |
| DaemonFC | by that I mean the GUI and such | May 15 15:21 |
| schestowitz | red hat put that in Linux too | May 15 15:21 |
| schestowitz | Ubuntu doesn't need to do it | May 15 15:21 |
| schestowitz | it inherits the same features | May 15 15:22 |
| schestowitz | Canonical is too busy doing "R and Dee" with Unity | May 15 15:22 |
| MinceR | the user experience of most DEs is probably preferable to AmigaOS4 | May 15 15:22 |
| MinceR | and certainly preferable to unity | May 15 15:22 |
| schestowitz | who here has tried unity? | May 15 15:22 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] ♻ @c0y0t3: PROTECT IP: nada ni nadie está a salvo ur1.ca/46mve | May 15 15:22 | |
| DaemonFC | finally schestowitz gets that it's not just me that thinks Unity sucks big block donkey dick | May 15 15:23 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 15 15:23 |
| schestowitz | One of the key unity devs was here in IRC.... | May 15 15:23 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: what are you talking about? | May 15 15:23 |
| schestowitz | I don't need some MS MVP like you to tell me that | May 15 15:23 |
| schestowitz | I see many reviewe | May 15 15:23 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Just run X with no desktop environment at all | May 15 15:23 |
| DaemonFC | still beats Unity | May 15 15:23 |
| schestowitz | Many from people whom I trust (Their blogs) | May 15 15:23 |
| schestowitz | The problem is that canonical didn't make it optional | May 15 15:24 |
| MinceR | i don't need to try something to realize that crApple-style global menus and indicator-only panels suck | May 15 15:24 |
| schestowitz | It could just make a duality like kde and gnome selection | May 15 15:24 |
| MinceR | apparently that went out of style, unfortunately | May 15 15:24 |
| DaemonFC | well, when Kubuntu gets some indiKators, I'm out | May 15 15:24 |
| DaemonFC | :P | May 15 15:24 |
| DaemonFC | it kind of does | May 15 15:25 |
| DaemonFC | but they're easy to turn off | May 15 15:25 |
| DaemonFC | and they don't break everything else | May 15 15:25 |
| DaemonFC | give them time? | May 15 15:25 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Zenwalk 7, it didn't go well... http://is.gd/XmnT7v "I cannot blame Zenwalk 7 at all for this mishap." | May 15 15:26 | |
| DaemonFC | I just don't see how anyone could use Unity, and I struggle further to think of what twisted fucked up bunch of idiots could have produced it | May 15 15:26 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Zenwalk 7, it didn't go well... | tuxmachines.org .::. Size~: 27.54 KB | May 15 15:26 |
| MinceR | people pretend to use macos too | May 15 15:27 |
| schestowitz | http://www.dwasifar.com/?p=1716 | May 15 15:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Ubuntu 11.04 – Adding my electrons to the deluge | dwasifar's daily gripe .::. Size~: 35.45 KB | May 15 15:27 |
| schestowitz | "If I were installing an OS on a tablet, I’d be all over this interface. But I’m not. And a desktop is not a tablet. Keep repeating that to yourself, Canonical. I hope it gets better." | May 15 15:27 |
| schestowitz | ^ least example | May 15 15:27 |
| schestowitz | *latest | May 15 15:27 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Robby Workman Answers a Few Questions on the Occasion of #Slackware-13.37 Release http://is.gd/kwFpgl #gnu #linux | May 15 15:27 | |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Ballmer was ahead of the curve on the whole Tablet PC thing | May 15 15:28 |
| DaemonFC | there's not a huge market | May 15 15:28 |
| DaemonFC | but they spent a lot of time and money and effort making a tablet PC design and a version of Windows XP for them | May 15 15:28 |
| DaemonFC | you do have Android and iOS, but those aren't a real OS | May 15 15:29 |
| DaemonFC | they've been scaled back and pared down and highly tuned for specific devices | May 15 15:29 |
| DaemonFC | Ubuntu isn't | May 15 15:29 |
| DaemonFC | Ubuntu shares that problem with Windows XP, and the fact that x86 processors are battery guzzlers no matter how you try to pitch them | May 15 15:30 |
| DaemonFC | but Ubuntu runs on ARM now......OK, go make a tablet version of Ubuntu for ARM | May 15 15:31 |
| DaemonFC | no? | May 15 15:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] It is rather #disturbing that #asayroll plays along with the propaganda that #Google is "going proprietary" or something along those lines | May 15 15:31 | |
| DaemonFC | Let's fuck over the desktop to satisfy <10% of our users on netbooks and tablets | May 15 15:31 |
| DaemonFC | they're digging their own hole with this Unity crap | May 15 15:31 |
| MinceR | i thought Atoms weren't that much of battery guzzlers | May 15 15:31 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Compared to arm or mips embedded CPUs? | May 15 15:32 |
| DaemonFC | Atom is just a crippled x86 chip | May 15 15:32 |
| MinceR | compared to them, i guess | May 15 15:32 |
| DaemonFC | it lets Intel say they can run Windows on a netbook | May 15 15:32 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Android was always developed in the same way. Why does #asayroll praise #Microsoft in the same Reg piece? He invited Microsoft to #OSBC 08. | May 15 15:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] What year did The Red become a rag? | May 15 15:32 | |
| DaemonFC | that's about it | May 15 15:32 |
| DaemonFC | they're slow and they aren't real efficient | May 15 15:33 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] New example of rag headline from another teaser/baiter from the UK: "Linux needs rebranding" http://is.gd/Te9g1e Riiiiiight.... | May 15 15:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Perl 5.14 http://is.gd/1xinAX | May 15 15:36 | |
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| ThistleWeb | I spent about a week with unity on the netbook, made a concious effort to live with it | May 15 15:37 |
| DaemonFC | "I know I'm going to regret this...but"? | May 15 15:37 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] A friend of mine told me this morning that in his workplace Wayne Rooney got caught doing it in the kitchen.Did the British press report it? | May 15 15:37 | |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/73558138 | May 15 15:38 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Ryan Rix (rrix)'s status on Sunday, 15-May-11 14:30:59 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz you don't believe they are? I think the nonrelease of 3.0/3.1 is very !disturbing, even with their excuses | May 15 15:38 |
| ThistleWeb | it's not as bad as many make out, but it's still not feature complete which makes some things irritating | May 15 15:38 |
| schestowitz | It was never truly open, but they had some stuff go upstream, so... well, still far more open than WebOS | May 15 15:38 |
| ThistleWeb | I didn't have any stability issues, but I think I may have been lucky with intel chips | May 15 15:39 |
| schestowitz | ThistleWeb: maybe you will know this | May 15 15:39 |
| schestowitz | Since you followed United's match against Schalke | May 15 15:39 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @rrix It was never truly open, but they had some stuff go upstream, so... well, still far more open than WebOS | May 15 15:39 | |
| ThistleWeb | I'm a United fan, so yeah | May 15 15:39 |
| schestowitz | Did the papers ever find out that Rooney is banned from Ferdinand's restaurant? | May 15 15:40 |
| MinceR | not nearly as open as MeeGo or OpenMoko | May 15 15:40 |
| ThistleWeb | manchetsre woulda been mental last night right? | May 15 15:40 |
| schestowitz | I only found out some hours ago | May 15 15:40 |
| ThistleWeb | no idea | May 15 15:40 |
| schestowitz | ThistleWeb: yeah | May 15 15:40 |
| schestowitz | ThistleWeb: mental ward :-) | May 15 15:40 |
| ThistleWeb | I follow the team as a football team, not all that interested in personal lives | May 15 15:40 |
| schestowitz | yes, but this was about him being banned | May 15 15:40 |
| schestowitz | for **** some lady in the kitchen | May 15 15:41 |
| ThistleWeb | united won the permier league yesterday with a draw at blackburn, and city won the fa cuo in londen hours later | May 15 15:41 |
| schestowitz | I think they did a press lockdown | May 15 15:41 |
| schestowitz | anyway, 28th will be a good game | May 15 15:41 |
| schestowitz | And Microsoft Florian will cheer for his client (lobbying) Barca | May 15 15:42 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Why are you calling me an MVP? I'm not one | May 15 15:42 |
| DaemonFC | I haven't been one for over 10 years | May 15 15:42 |
| DaemonFC | :P | May 15 15:42 |
| ThistleWeb | united are very well oiled at press control | May 15 15:42 |
| MinceR | what does Barca need software patents for? | May 15 15:42 |
| ThistleWeb | the players are very well sheilded from any critical media | May 15 15:42 |
| MinceR | or m$ hype | May 15 15:43 |
| ThistleWeb | they're all on message when they do get near the media, with united advisors hovering nearby the whole time | May 15 15:43 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Computer Centers in West Virginia's Volunteer Fire Stations http://is.gd/KZndG5 distributing #gnu #linux and not lock-in | May 15 15:44 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Computer Centers in West Virginia's Volunteer Fire Stations | PCWorld .::. Size~: 103.07 KB | May 15 15:44 |
| DaemonFC | that critique of Windows 7's user interface missed the forest because of all the trees | May 15 15:44 |
| DaemonFC | but he did nail a couple of things that really pissed me off | May 15 15:44 |
| schestowitz | ThistleWeb: heh | May 15 15:44 |
| schestowitz | Let me check something on Google | May 15 15:44 |
| DaemonFC | like the drag and drop one | May 15 15:44 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] What an amazing young man speaking about #sgelection - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dI2rczQzAvs | May 15 15:46 | |
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| DaemonFC | the user interface is important because it's the first thing people see. It's like common sense says "If you only have time to clean one room, do the livingroom." | May 15 15:46 |
| DaemonFC | Canonical's Unity is like the user interface of Vista7 | May 15 15:46 |
| DaemonFC | it looks nice and modern and clean | May 15 15:46 |
| ThistleWeb | or the bedroom, depending on the type of establishment | May 15 15:46 |
| schestowitz | THat's before he got banned http://connect.in.com/sing-off-finale/article-man-u-players-drown-fulham-defeat-at-ferdinands-restaurant-7cfe41a4a30e11bbb71364a7b4ebbcb4c249cec8.html | May 15 15:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Sing Off Finale News : Man U players drown Fulham defeat at Ferdinand's restaurant .::. Size~: 17.19 KB | May 15 15:46 |
| DaemonFC | and then underneath that is a torture device | May 15 15:47 |
| schestowitz | A friend of mine works at Rosso | May 15 15:47 |
| MinceR | that critique gets many things wrong | May 15 15:47 |
| ThistleWeb | rooney has a history of straying, so although I dunno, it wouldn't surprise me if it was true | May 15 15:48 |
| schestowitz | http://www.yelp.co.uk/biz_photos/yFV-XINNXLKIT6DUi8Miwg?select=VqtFwAEBm9uOp8IoleCyCg | May 15 15:48 |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR, He mused "Why is this crap still here?" and "Why does it STILL do THAT!?" when the answer is obvious | May 15 15:48 |
| schestowitz | ThistleWeb: no major deal | May 15 15:48 |
| DaemonFC | it's easier to shift stuff around and change the wallpaper | May 15 15:48 |
| schestowitz | I also told him it's just tabloid gossip | May 15 15:48 |
| DaemonFC | than it is to fix long standing bugs | May 15 15:48 |
| ThistleWeb | he's had a tough season over his personal life affecting him on the pitch | May 15 15:49 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/73558431 | May 15 15:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Ryan Rix (rrix)'s status on Sunday, 15-May-11 14:39:28 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Not much better, imo. webos is at least releasing their source. http://opensource.palm.com <== not #TOSW but neither is #GOOG | May 15 15:50 |
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| ThistleWeb | the only United player who seems able (or brave enough to defy Fergie) in speaking his mind is paul scholes, although he very very rarely ever gives the media any time, like 1 interview per decade if yer lucky, and only to one reasonably safe place | May 15 15:50 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #KDE at #LinuxTag http://is.gd/mkVNPM which is expected | May 15 15:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @rrix there are Android forks, I don't think ones can be made for WebOS | May 15 15:51 | |
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| ThistleWeb | as far as I know he doesn't even do much for United's own TV channel, despite it being part of the contract for all the players | May 15 15:51 |
| schestowitz | ThistleWeb: I see.. | May 15 15:51 |
| MinceR | still, it reminded me of the file moving clusterfuck in vista[7] | May 15 15:52 |
| ThistleWeb | I suspect he's gonna announce his retirement next week anyway | May 15 15:52 |
| schestowitz | cluster fsck? | May 15 15:52 |
| schestowitz | it's not on my repos | May 15 15:52 |
| schestowitz | Is that like cssh for clusters? | May 15 15:52 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] good morning !Identiverse | May 15 15:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] "I must have gone through $10 million during my career... for gambling... horses... women. The rest I spent foolishly." ~ George Raft !q | May 15 15:52 | |
| schestowitz | ThistleWeb: who? Ferguson? | May 15 15:52 |
| ThistleWeb | no scholes | May 15 15:53 |
| schestowitz | ah | May 15 15:53 |
| ThistleWeb | he was a top midfeilder for a LONG time, but it's became very apparent that his legs are failing him for United's level | May 15 15:53 |
| ThistleWeb | he was used sparingly this season, lesser games, on as a sub etc because his age is catching up with him | May 15 15:54 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, The one where you think you're dragging files but you end up drag selecting instead? :) | May 15 15:54 |
| schestowitz | He has played around for so long that I assumed he retired | May 15 15:54 |
| MinceR | no, the one where moving (and possibly copying) multiple files leads into hell | May 15 15:54 |
| ThistleWeb | he's a red through and through, he won't go lower leagues, he'll retire, maybe become a lifelong backroom dude at United, coach etc | May 15 15:54 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Or the one where it makes a copy of everything in the same folder without asking you | May 15 15:54 |
| ThistleWeb | he's been in the United 1st team for all the top games since the age of about 20, as well as an England 1st choice. He's now 36 I think | May 15 15:55 |
| ThistleWeb | he does keep himself fit, but his legs are gone as far as competing at the level required at United | May 15 15:56 |
| ThistleWeb | he can't keep up the pace with the quality for long enough, he plays in bursts | May 15 15:56 |
| ThistleWeb | I have a lotta respect for scholes, he's the only professional player nowadays who's never had an agent | May 15 15:57 |
| schestowitz | PA/PR? | May 15 15:57 |
| ThistleWeb | when his contracts come up for renewal, it comes down to a casual chat, agreeing terms and they're all happy | May 15 15:57 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Codec Wars explained http://is.gd/eTQVH0 very detailed #ogg #webm #html5 #mpegla #cartel #swpats | May 15 15:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] The need for communication - a Libyan story - http://english.aljazeera.net/indepth/features/2011/04/20114233530919767.html #sgelection | May 15 15:57 | |
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| ThistleWeb | which is stunning for a world class international player | May 15 15:58 |
| ThistleWeb | he is a bit of a maverick lol | May 15 15:58 |
| ThistleWeb | anyhoo, twasn't meant to be a full discussion lol | May 15 15:59 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @pensadorlouco Microsoft bought Skype. See the new possibilities in the Joy of tech (very funny) http://ur1.ca/46ntk | May 15 15:59 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The Joy of Tech comic... Microsoft Skype retail boxes. .::. Size~: 28.34 KB | May 15 15:59 |
| *schestowitz thinks of Palin saying Maverick | May 15 15:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] What’s up with #ARM http://is.gd/sl8n5R "The ARM mess is not small, but it’s really just another cleanup job"; and now #Microsoft pays ARM | May 15 16:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @robmyers ♺ @newsocweb: Want to try a distributed social network? Here's a list of some you can join right now! http://is.gd/fG7qG7 | May 15 16:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @x11r5 @jimmorgan Maybe next time i reboot! | May 15 16:01 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Ideas for a #cgroups UI http://is.gd/sBmwXN @mairin from #RedHat about the #kernel | May 15 16:02 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Kicking Around The #Wayland Display Server http://is.gd/5VBWPU #linux #graphics #programming | May 15 16:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Ubuntu Studio 11.10 Will Get #Xfce Desktop http://is.gd/wwjlUp no unity within Canonical 0_o | May 15 16:07 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] In Zagreb. It rains. Hrmpf. | May 15 16:12 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Ubuntu also kicked out their real time kernel | May 15 16:15 |
| DaemonFC | they have to use a PPA for that now in Studio | May 15 16:15 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Heroes of Newerth free to play week http://is.gd/Qo5RTe also mention worthy from the news: 'Family Farm' http://is.gd/Qo5RTe | May 15 16:16 | |
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| DaemonFC | oh well, I agree with the move to XFCE, XFCE 4.8 is finally something I can sign off on if someone asks me what to use on their older PC | May 15 16:16 |
| DaemonFC | the fact that versions before that didn't let you use a freedesktop.org compliant menu editor just always kind of bugged me | May 15 16:17 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, That laptop I gave my brother, I put Xubuntu on it | May 15 16:18 |
| DaemonFC | if I can't make Unity work right I know he can't | May 15 16:19 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Cracking open a Radeberger and playing single player #Minecraft for a change since my server is still down... | May 15 16:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Just love the smell, look and taste of #Radeberger. One of the best beers on the planet! | May 15 16:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @gbraad RT @lxnews Shuttleworth Hints at Possible Proprietarisation Plans http://lxnews.org/2011/05/15/shuttleworth-proprietarisation ... | May 15 16:29 | |
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| DaemonFC | http://blog.xfce.org/ | May 15 16:29 |
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| DaemonFC | "after signing our standard contribution agreement that cedes all your present and future rights to Paris Hilton." | May 15 16:30 |
| DaemonFC | lol | May 15 16:30 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Ubuntu UDS O Budapest - Mark Shuttleworth interviewed by Amb http://is.gd/0v57aA #SteveOfLinux | May 15 16:32 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting application/ogg type | May 15 16:33 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] In this interview, has MarkS just insinuated that 200m-180m people use #Ubuntu on desktops? 20 million? | May 15 16:34 | |
| DaemonFC | thanks to the phone home spyware they would know that | May 15 16:35 |
| DaemonFC | :P | May 15 16:35 |
| MinceR | there's some opt-in "popularity contest", iirc | May 15 16:36 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @gbraad he completely lost my respect for him when he advocates proprietary interfaces (cites iOS, Android as examples against MS hegemony) | May 15 16:36 | |
| MinceR | there's also the visitors to the repos :> | May 15 16:36 |
| *DaemonFC throws a family pack of Windows 7 licenses and Steve Ballmer at MinceR | May 15 16:39 | |
| DaemonFC | B-) | May 15 16:39 |
| *MinceR dodges | May 15 16:39 | |
| DaemonFC | spyware for the whole family! | May 15 16:40 |
| MinceR | are you unaware of the skill at dodging winblows i've built up? :> | May 15 16:40 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, That's why you buy 5 licenses for Windows and a computer for everyone in the family | May 15 16:40 |
| DaemonFC | it increases the likelihood that one of them will be functional at any given time | May 15 16:41 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 15 16:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @lxnews one has to read completely the article you linked in order to get that. If one only reads you, won't get the full message. | May 15 16:41 | |
| ThistleWeb | another thought on the skype thing; what are the chances of Microsoft tweaking the protocols behind the scenes to rely on some .net authentication, or even ensuring that it only works properly when contacting other windows skype clients | May 15 16:41 |
| ThistleWeb | that skype linux to linux, mac to linux etc works fine, but any to windows will constantly faail | May 15 16:41 |
| ThistleWeb | we all knwo how microsoft like to make changes and share those to ensure compatibility </sarcasm> | May 15 16:42 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] "I am going to continue doing vampires as long as people sin...humanity needs the moral lesson ...in repeatedly larger doses."~Theda Bara !q | May 15 16:42 | |
| ThistleWeb | and of course because people don't know why, and all their windows mates skypes work fine, linux must be bad, linux must be at fault | May 15 16:43 |
| ThistleWeb | maybe thy'll put the samba team on that one, they've had the practice | May 15 16:44 |
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| hello world | May 15 16:48 | |
| schestowitz | hi twitter | May 15 16:51 |
| I sent you a few leftovers an hour or so ago. | May 15 16:52 | |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: Linux family pack is every distro | May 15 16:52 |
| schestowitz | You can install for everyone in the family | May 15 16:52 |
| schestowitz | twitter: thanks | May 15 16:52 |
| schestowitz | I separate one item from there to make a post | May 15 16:52 |
| Family Torture (TM) | May 15 16:52 | |
| schestowitz | Groklaw was beaten to it by us | May 15 16:52 |
| schestowitz | regarding facebook and the Microsoft connection | May 15 16:52 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #WebUpd8: #Pinguy OS 11.04 Released With Classic !GNOME 2.32.1 Desktop http://goo.gl/jP0Ya | May 15 16:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] @gbraad @ruiseabra I will possibly have a meet and greet with MarkS tmrw here in zagreb. | May 15 16:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] ISO image for !GNOME 3 promo DVD available for download http://goo.gl/frYnW | May 15 16:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Working frantically on best possible slides fro @dorscluc in Zagreb. But also #needfood and #needbeer :-) | May 15 16:52 | |
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| I'm glad Groklaw noticed. | May 15 16:53 | |
| DaemonFC | Windows 7 is perfection, you don't have to worry about that nasty Vista anymore, we changed the wallpaper and set the shell to run at High priority | May 15 16:53 |
| DaemonFC | hooray! | May 15 16:53 |
| MinceR | :> | May 15 16:53 |
| MinceR | we also put a few new holes into UAC | May 15 16:54 |
| PowerShell. Have they figured out paths yet? Do they still use stupid directory names with control characters? | May 15 16:54 | |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, It's like Microsoft always says "We didn't optimize it, but we did have it hog the processor" | May 15 16:55 |
| MinceR | or the functionality you get from CLI utilities :> | May 15 16:55 |
| DaemonFC | no, if they were only that honest | May 15 16:55 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] ♺ @lovenemesis: A Chinese #iOS app which only sells you fake US education diploma http://is.gd/lvl047 / #Apple verification policy is a joke | May 15 16:56 | |
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| DaemonFC | lmao | May 15 16:56 |
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| Ender2070 | DaemonFC - I found a 5770 for $130 | May 15 16:57 |
| DaemonFC | that sounds fair | May 15 16:57 |
| Ender2070 | 850Mhz 4.8Ghz ram | May 15 16:57 |
| Ender2070 | and a $30 mail in rebate | May 15 16:58 |
| DaemonFC | mail them your Nvidia card and tell them to put the $30 towards disposing of it in an eco-friendly manner | May 15 16:58 |
| Ender2070 | LOL | May 15 16:59 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] RT @highvoltage A small victory with #Ubuntu: http://ping.fm/6FSso | May 15 16:59 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: [ubuntu-za] At last!! .::. Size~: 3.99 KB | May 15 16:59 |
| DaemonFC | personally, I'd use the $30 to buy a hammer and smash the thing | May 15 16:59 |
| DaemonFC | but you're Canadian and I'm, not :D | May 15 16:59 |
| DaemonFC | ($30 = a really big hammer) | May 15 17:00 |
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| Ender2070 | then im probably gonna have to use fedora rawhide | May 15 17:00 |
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| Ender2070 | or opensuse tumbleweed | May 15 17:00 |
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| DaemonFC | or *buntu with xorg-edgers | May 15 17:00 |
| DaemonFC | they turn the patented Mesa bits on by default | May 15 17:00 |
| DaemonFC | more applications are likely to work that way :) | May 15 17:01 |
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| DaemonFC | I don't see a problem with using the patented bits, I already paid the god damned patent royalties when I bought the card | May 15 17:01 |
| DaemonFC | I'm not going to be double dipped :P | May 15 17:02 |
| if you can be dipped once, they will dip you again and again | May 15 17:03 | |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/73560785 http://identi.ca/conversation/71163623#notice-73560785 | May 15 17:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Rui Seabra (ruiseabra)'s status on Sunday, 15-May-11 15:36:16 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz yes they can, and much better than Android as webos is basically OpenEmbedded, close to traditional GNU/Linux. Same as !Shr | May 15 17:03 |
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| DaemonFC | twitter, There's no way to buy a video card without paying it | May 15 17:03 |
| buy used | May 15 17:03 | |
| DaemonFC | it's kind of like, I paid the MPEG Cartel about $1 when I bought my portable media player | May 15 17:03 |
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| DaemonFC | even though I don't use MPEG formats on it | May 15 17:03 |
| ude deCSS | May 15 17:04 | |
| use | May 15 17:04 | |
| DaemonFC | I should write them a letter asking for my $1 back | May 15 17:04 |
| DaemonFC | since their formats are inferior | May 15 17:04 |
| DaemonFC | and closed to the general public | May 15 17:04 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Free! Working! Fast! Wireless in the hotel here in Zagreb. So cool! Thx @dorscluc for perfect organisation! | May 15 17:04 | |
| you should ask them for a dollar for each movie you have ever watched | May 15 17:04 | |
| DaemonFC | twitter, The license fees are built into the player | May 15 17:05 |
| DaemonFC | not the movies | May 15 17:05 |
| they are built into both, many times | May 15 17:05 | |
| the player is about half licenses | May 15 17:05 | |
| DaemonFC | wouldn't surprise me | May 15 17:05 |
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| DaemonFC | you'd think the manufacturers would be lobbying for patent reform and trying to beat the MAFIAA into using open codecs | May 15 17:06 |
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| DaemonFC | but then again, they can just turn around and rob the customer | May 15 17:06 |
| DaemonFC | so they don't care :) | May 15 17:06 |
| device makers are part of the cartel | May 15 17:06 | |
| a few of them got together to restrict production | May 15 17:06 | |
| DaemonFC | then you get price fixing | May 15 17:07 |
| it is much like the glass and steel monopolies in the US of the last century | May 15 17:07 | |
| DaemonFC | but they're careful not to call it that | May 15 17:07 |
| price fixing was the goal | May 15 17:07 | |
| DaemonFC | as long as they don't tell, the government won't ask | May 15 17:07 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @lxnews: Shuttleworth Hints at Possible Proprietarisation Plans http://lxnews.org/2011/05/15/shuttleworth-proprietarisation-plans/ | May 15 17:07 | |
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| the US government provides subsidies and legal protection | May 15 17:08 | |
| they too are part of the cartel | May 15 17:08 | |
| idiots | May 15 17:08 | |
| DaemonFC | not idiots | May 15 17:08 |
| DaemonFC | puppets | May 15 17:08 |
| the sum of all greed is economic and environmental collapse, they are both puppets and idiots | May 15 17:09 | |
| We are visited with multiple man made disasters | May 15 17:09 | |
| DaemonFC | Ronald Reagan once said the scariest thing you could ever hear is "We're from the government and we're here to help". I've never heard that one, but isn't the sound of your door getting bashed down by a SWAT team and your family held at gunpoint a little scarier? | May 15 17:10 |
| DaemonFC | maybe it's just me | May 15 17:10 |
| Stronger hurricanes, drought, Deepwater Horizon, Fukushima, floods | May 15 17:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 15/5/2011: GNU/Linux in Munich and Fire Stations http://is.gd/J0jOM0 !techrights | May 15 17:11 | |
| DaemonFC | twitter, Katrina was a failure of planning, a sort of willful negligence caused it | May 15 17:11 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Links 15/5/2011: GNU/Linux in Munich and Fire Stations http://is.gd/J0jOM0 techrights | May 15 17:11 | |
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| DaemonFC | the government doesn't spend money on infrastructure because "Who sees a sewage pipe anyway?" | May 15 17:11 |
| DaemonFC | it's a common problem | May 15 17:11 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/73560785 | May 15 17:11 |
| Katrina and most of the other strong hurricanes are a result of global warming | May 15 17:11 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Rui Seabra (ruiseabra)'s status on Sunday, 15-May-11 15:36:16 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz yes they can, and much better than Android as webos is basically OpenEmbedded, close to traditional GNU/Linux. Same as !Shr | May 15 17:11 |
| DaemonFC | that's the myth anyway | May 15 17:12 |
| DaemonFC | posited by a different cartel | May 15 17:12 |
| schestowitz | It's possible | May 15 17:12 |
| schestowitz | Climate change | May 15 17:12 |
| schestowitz | Extreme weather, less equilibrium | May 15 17:12 |
| schestowitz | Weather has no moods | May 15 17:12 |
| schestowitz | It just does its thing | May 15 17:12 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] It seems as though future episodes of !techbytes will all be 100% Free software based - the whole pipeline. I sorted out the missing pieces. | May 15 17:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jordigh/@jordigh] Test notice from Pidgin... | May 15 17:12 | |
| DaemonFC | look at who stands to gain if people panic and start buying all this "clean energy" crap and "carbon offsets" which are just taxation | May 15 17:12 |
| schestowitz | But humans evolved to a certain weather pattern | May 15 17:12 |
| DaemonFC | the government gets to raise taxes | May 15 17:13 |
| schestowitz | if it gets changed, we need to adapt again | May 15 17:13 |
| DaemonFC | people like Al Gore see stock splits in the companies they own | May 15 17:13 |
| DaemonFC | it's just made up | May 15 17:13 |
| schestowitz | Some people confuse tornadoes with tectonics | May 15 17:13 |
| DaemonFC | it's made up as another kind of control | May 15 17:13 |
| !google hurricanes global warming | May 15 17:13 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Geophysical Fluid Dynamics Laboratory - Global Warming and Hurricanes | http://www.gfdl.noaa.gov/global-warming-and-hurricanes | May 15 17:13 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - HURRICANES AND GLOBAL WARMING | http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/pdf/05pielke.pdf | May 15 17:13 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Hurricanes and Global Warming FAQs | Pew Center on Global Climate ... | http://www.pewclimate.org/hurricanes.cfm | May 15 17:13 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Is Global Warming Making Hurricanes Worse? | http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2005/08/0804_050804_hurricanewarming.html | May 15 17:13 |
| DaemonFC | give me billions of dollars contingent on you thinking the world is about to end | May 15 17:14 |
| DaemonFC | I'll make up anything you'll believe | May 15 17:14 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jordigh/@jordigh] w00t it works, now I'll be more effective at making inane remarks | May 15 17:14 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I see three possibilities for global warming. (1) It's real, but these parasites are selling us made-up solutions that won't work to enrich themselves. (2) It's not real, and these parasites are selling us a bill of goods to enrich themselves, (3) The Earth was created 5,000 years ago and Jesus rode the dinosaurs | May 15 17:17 |
| DaemonFC | ok, I'm leaning towards either 1 or 2 | May 15 17:17 |
| DaemonFC | I just can't decide if it's fake and they're propping it up to make money | May 15 17:17 |
| DaemonFC | or if it's real and they're just exploiting it with non-solutions to make money | May 15 17:17 |
| ThistleWeb | its real, the the rich only offer solutions that won't canibalise their current gravy trains, like oil | May 15 17:18 |
| DaemonFC | of course there's another option, it's real but it's just not having the effect they say it is, so they're exaggerating to exploit it to make money | May 15 17:18 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 15 17:18 |
| DaemonFC | but that's petty much the same as 2 | May 15 17:18 |
| ThistleWeb | it's a tiny step, but only if they can maximise the profits from it, if not....it's demonised | May 15 17:18 |
| DaemonFC | ThistleWeb, That's why I don't care | May 15 17:19 |
| DaemonFC | there's no solution anyway as long as we let the non-solutions go front and center | May 15 17:19 |
| DaemonFC | like they are | May 15 17:19 |
| DaemonFC | while nothing real is being done | May 15 17:19 |
| DaemonFC | as it isn't | May 15 17:19 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 15 17:20 |
| DaemonFC | does that make sense? | May 15 17:20 |
| ThistleWeb | the amount of damage we've done as a species means heavy changes to slow down the trend, and no country has the political will to stand up to the big oil corps | May 15 17:20 |
| DaemonFC | Not wanting to debate it gets you labeled a "denier" | May 15 17:20 |
| ThistleWeb | everyone does a little, some more than others, but while some large countries have strong denial factions, it's farting into the wind | May 15 17:20 |
| DaemonFC | wll, I'm saying, get some non-tainted credible evidence, and remove the profiteers from the equation | May 15 17:20 |
| DaemonFC | and I'll listen | May 15 17:20 |
| ThistleWeb | when you block one technology, it loses jobs from that industry, but it also provides new gaps in the market for new jobs in another | May 15 17:21 |
| DaemonFC | ThistleWeb, I get what you're saying, it's like getting a car up to speed and waiting until the last minute to jam on the brakes | May 15 17:21 |
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| DaemonFC | and that's how humans deal with everything | May 15 17:21 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/73562526 | May 15 17:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Ryan Rix (rrix)'s status on Sunday, 15-May-11 16:19:37 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz what about the backbone ISP stuff? #pedantic | May 15 17:22 |
| ThistleWeb | apparently even if we stop doing the damage 100% now, it will continue to get worse for a while yet because it has mommentum | May 15 17:22 |
| schestowitz | That's out of our control :-) | May 15 17:22 |
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| ThistleWeb | before it slows down and starts to rebalance and fix itself | May 15 17:22 |
| DaemonFC | I don't care because I can't stop it | May 15 17:22 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] "Be yourself. The world worships the original."~Ingrid Bergman !q | May 15 17:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @rrix That's out of our control :-) | May 15 17:22 | |
| DaemonFC | people have this delusion of empowerment | May 15 17:22 |
| ThistleWeb | we need drastic lifestyle changes all over the world | May 15 17:23 |
| DaemonFC | I don't | May 15 17:23 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, there's 7 billion other people in the world, and most of them are living under an oppressive regime that makes all the decisions of this scale | May 15 17:23 |
| DaemonFC | so, I don't care :) | May 15 17:23 |
| ThistleWeb | the people who are used to burning fuel like it's nothing with heavy gas guzzling cars, lots of gadgets all drawing power, left on all the time etc | May 15 17:23 |
| ThistleWeb | there is no quick fix | May 15 17:24 |
| ThistleWeb | there is no magic bullet | May 15 17:24 |
| DaemonFC | if the government decides that they'll bail out the gas guzzler manufacturers and punish you for buying a more efficient car, then.... | May 15 17:24 |
| DaemonFC | what do you think people will drive? | May 15 17:24 |
| ThistleWeb | it's like dieting, there is no miracle diet, it's a whole lifestyle change | May 15 17:24 |
| ThistleWeb | exactly | May 15 17:24 |
| DaemonFC | the government stacks the deck | May 15 17:25 |
| DaemonFC | to reward the industries that pollute the most | May 15 17:25 |
| DaemonFC | and make it unaffordable to support the rest | May 15 17:26 |
| ThistleWeb | I did find it a sad entictment of corporate america, that when the gas prices were very high, the huge SUVs sat on forecourts because US drivers din't want them. Ford took NO notice of that, continued to insiste gas guzling was the way to go, then had to go cap in hand to the govt for a bailout | May 15 17:26 |
| DaemonFC | huh, the V8s aren't selling, here's a V10 and a V12 | May 15 17:26 |
| ThistleWeb | the sensible board would say "maybe we should plan for a future of high gas prices, so our cars are an option for customers" | May 15 17:26 |
| DaemonFC | the V12 is a 6 liter | May 15 17:26 |
| DaemonFC | gas is $4 a gallon | May 15 17:27 |
| DaemonFC | have fun :D | May 15 17:27 |
| I remember something about the doubling of category 4 and 5 hurricanes over the last 30 years. | May 15 17:27 | |
| ThistleWeb | this was a few yrs ago, at the height of the iraq war | May 15 17:27 |
| DaemonFC | what? no takers? Daddy Warbucks!!! I mean, Bush!!! | May 15 17:27 |
| http://journals.ametsoc.org/doi/pdf/10.1175/BAMS-89-3-347 | May 15 17:27 | |
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| ThistleWeb | the rest at least got the point and made some effort to start being more fuel effiicent, ford stuck to their tried and trusted gas guzzling range | May 15 17:27 |
| ThistleWeb | gas guzzlers don't stand a chance of being sold in most countries | May 15 17:28 |
| ThistleWeb | certainly the UK, our fuel prices have always been high, that people wouldn't even consider a gas gullzer | May 15 17:29 |
| ThistleWeb | guzzler* | May 15 17:29 |
| DaemonFC | my car gets about 25 mpg | May 15 17:29 |
| DaemonFC | it's not terrible considering it's a mid-90s sedan | May 15 17:29 |
| DaemonFC | :P | May 15 17:29 |
| ThistleWeb | 25 would be a turn off for drivers here | May 15 17:30 |
| DaemonFC | I don't want one of these newer cars, honestly thigns like built in GPS and Onstar or whatever | May 15 17:30 |
| DaemonFC | no, just no | May 15 17:30 |
| DaemonFC | never | May 15 17:30 |
| ThistleWeb | the alure of the US muscle cars is strong, there's a whole romantic side to it, but ye Gods they suck fuel something terrible | May 15 17:31 |
| DaemonFC | hey, here's something that can track wherever you go and let someone kill your engine from space | May 15 17:31 |
| DaemonFC | woohoo | May 15 17:31 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, I think not | May 15 17:31 |
| ah, the romance of manufactured desire | May 15 17:31 | |
| ThistleWeb | maybe it's partly 70's cinema | May 15 17:31 |
| Ralph Nader nailed the car industry decades ago | May 15 17:31 | |
| ThistleWeb | with real cars | May 15 17:32 |
| DaemonFC | ThistleWeb, They fill them with defective parts that are needlessly high-wear just to get you in and charge you inflated prices to fix it | May 15 17:32 |
| a cartel of US makers screwed everyone with advertising and the cheapest possible production of shiny but very dangerous junk designed to fall apart in 5 years or less | May 15 17:32 | |
| they blocked imports | May 15 17:33 | |
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| but they did not share very well with their labor | May 15 17:34 | |
| ThistleWeb | capitalism isn't built on serving the public, or paying the workers, it's based on greed, that's the point | May 15 17:35 |
| ThistleWeb | anything you can do to maximise profits is seen as a good and legit thing | May 15 17:36 |
| DaemonFC | hey, that guy is about to retire, let's fire him and pocket his pension! | May 15 17:36 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 15 17:36 |
| DaemonFC | there's a little old lady, is it legal to take her cane, beat her with it, and steal her purse? Dammit! | May 15 17:37 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | May 15 17:37 |
| ThistleWeb | screw the workforce, evade tax, cut corners on manufacturing, kill any competition so you can hike prices, change T&C to sign away any rights the custmer used to have etc | May 15 17:37 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft doesn't cut corners, they even got the crash screen my favorite color | May 15 17:38 |
| DaemonFC | that takes an intimate detailed knowledge of the customer | May 15 17:38 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | May 15 17:38 |
| ThistleWeb | as long as it's good enough to last for almost a yr, people accept it, and accept that normal wear and tear will cause it to fail in time | May 15 17:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] "You don't stop laughing because you grow older. You grow older because you stop laughing." -- Maurice Chevalier !q | May 15 17:41 | |
| ThistleWeb | specially if it's a FTSE company you see everywhere | May 15 17:41 |
| http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3QAERvZkmk | May 15 17:45 | |
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| http://www.southernstudies.org/2011/05/voices-when-faced-with-floods-fdr-fought-back-with-jobs.html | May 15 17:47 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: ISS - VOICES: When faced with floods, FDR fought back with jobs .::. Size~: 35.42 KB | May 15 17:47 |
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| " For the vast majority of scientists -- and for an increasing number of individuals and institutions in other parts of the world -- the potential impact of climate change is being viewed with growing alarm. But in Washington, just the opposite is true. The US House of Representatives recently rejected an amendment that would have put the House on record as acknowledging that global warming is occurring and that human activity is th | May 15 17:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Ich sage einfach Danke, Lena. Und nu lebe erstmal für dich und nicht mehr für uns. #esc | May 15 17:51 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] BTW - full meltdown with hull breach in #Fukushima reactor 1 happened 16h after the quake. Tepco admits. Geez. | May 15 17:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk sounds about right ;D | May 15 17:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] “Life, is not a having and a getting, but a being and a becoming.” ~ Myrna Loy | May 15 17:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Negligence at Microsoft, Not ‘Market Share’, Causes Major Technical Problems http://is.gd/EozbNq #microsoft #windows #bpos #security | May 15 17:54 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Negligence at Microsoft, Not ‘Market Share’, Causes Major Technical Problems | Techrights .::. Size~: 88.56 KB | May 15 17:54 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Microsoft’s #AstroTurfing Fetish Necessitates Oversight http://is.gd/UFPENw #microsoft #google #facebook #antitrust | May 15 17:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Microsoft’s #AstroTurfing Fetish Necessitates Oversight http://is.gd/UFPENw #microsoft #google #facebook #antitrust | May 15 17:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Negligence at Microsoft, Not ‘Market Share’, Causes Major Technical Problems http://is.gd/EozbNq #fogcomputing | May 15 17:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] lol, the commentators on #5Live are hilariously excited at the wigan game with that goal | May 15 17:56 | |
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| Ender2070 | I've done my part to fight climate change but it's not enough apparently | May 15 17:56 |
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| Ender2070 | DaemonFC - migrating to opensuse for tumbleweed | May 15 17:57 |
| Ender2070 | should give me the versions I need | May 15 17:57 |
| DaemonFC | nope | May 15 17:57 |
| DaemonFC | :P | May 15 17:57 |
| DaemonFC | Linux 2.6.38 is in tumbleweed | May 15 17:57 |
| DaemonFC | the command stream checker will block all compressed textures | May 15 17:57 |
| DaemonFC | :P | May 15 17:57 |
| Ender2070 | oh the kernel I can get from factory | May 15 17:57 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] wigan v west ham sounds like one of the games of the season, relegation dogfight, 1-0 down to win 3-2 in the final mins to relegate west ham | May 15 17:57 | |
| DaemonFC | use Linux 2.6.39 | May 15 17:57 |
| DaemonFC | the command stream checker should be ok there for a while | May 15 17:58 |
| Ender2070 | I got my numerology book just in case | May 15 17:58 |
| DaemonFC | I added a patch for mine from the dri mailing list | May 15 17:58 |
| DaemonFC | it won't make it in time for .39 | May 15 17:59 |
| DaemonFC | :P | May 15 17:59 |
| Ender2070 | I might need to chant a verse from the Kabbalah ? | May 15 17:59 |
| DaemonFC | it adds a few obscure block compression formats | May 15 17:59 |
| Ender2070 | yeah I thought so | May 15 17:59 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] "If ants are such busy workers, how come they find time to go to all the picnics?"~Marie Dressler !q | May 15 17:59 | |
| DaemonFC | I don't even think anything I use needs those | May 15 17:59 |
| DaemonFC | no, you need to sacrifice a small goat to Richard Stallman's beard | May 15 18:00 |
| DaemonFC | because of the 5 kb firmware blob in the Radeon driver | May 15 18:00 |
| Ender2070 | Alright | May 15 18:01 |
| Ender2070 | I'm getting the toads wart from my food | May 15 18:01 |
| Ender2070 | That's what RMS ate in the infamous vid of his food food | May 15 18:02 |
| DaemonFC | if you use an FSF-recommended distribution, you probably won't have 3d acceleration, but that's not a problem seeing as how you probably won't have a network driver either | May 15 18:02 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 15 18:02 |
| Ender2070 | LOL | May 15 18:02 |
| Ender2070 | opensuse is far from approved | May 15 18:02 |
| Ender2070 | it even gives you flash | May 15 18:03 |
| DaemonFC | Debian still hasn't killed enough hardware to get on the FSF's good side | May 15 18:03 |
| DaemonFC | they did get closer with Squeeze | May 15 18:03 |
| DaemonFC | of course they won't be part of the cult until they don't even give users the option of making it work | May 15 18:04 |
| DaemonFC | so, moot point | May 15 18:04 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] ♺ @olpc Girls Save the World through Computer Science--using OLPC laptops: http://j.mp/jMeb7x (Learning and Leading with Technology, 5/2011) | May 15 18:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] @tekk I did forget my Lederhosn, though :-) | May 15 18:04 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting application/pdf type | May 15 18:04 |
| Ender2070 | I honestly dont really care anymore as long as its open source | May 15 18:04 |
| Ender2070 | a few little things dont bug me | May 15 18:04 |
| DaemonFC | the open source radeon driver doesn't have 3d that's as fast as FGLRX | May 15 18:05 |
| DaemonFC | but everything else is better in every way | May 15 18:05 |
| DaemonFC | and the 3d is fast enough to run the games I play | May 15 18:05 |
| DaemonFC | so, yay | May 15 18:06 |
| Ender2070 | I just need it to handle the composite effects | May 15 18:07 |
| Ender2070 | i dont play games in linux | May 15 18:07 |
| DaemonFC | oh, in that case, it's smoother than FGLRX | May 15 18:08 |
| DaemonFC | there's far less tearing for example | May 15 18:09 |
| Ender2070 | mainly I plan to play dragon age 2 in DX11 mode | May 15 18:10 |
| DaemonFC | that could be a problem :P | May 15 18:11 |
| DaemonFC | unless you use Vista7 | May 15 18:12 |
| Ender2070 | I have dual boot with it for games | May 15 18:12 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Dear Mark Shuttleworth, honest FOSS w/out (c) assignment works quite OK. #needhelp ? Yours, Red Hat :-) http://ur1.ca/45bwy | May 15 18:12 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | May 15 18:12 |
| Ender2070 | the free license intel gave me with the i7 920 | May 15 18:13 |
| Ender2070 | before you say it was included in the price | May 15 18:15 |
| Ender2070 | I paid $180 | May 15 18:15 |
| Ender2070 | I got one of them for free | May 15 18:15 |
| Ender2070 | and underpaid either way for one of them | May 15 18:15 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Working on the server..... !miners | May 15 18:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] OK, we are back online! Now another #Radeberger.... !miners | May 15 18:17 | |
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| schestowitz | Hi _Goblin | May 15 18:31 |
| _Goblin | bonjour | May 15 18:32 |
| _Goblin | ...you were right about sound quality | May 15 18:32 |
| _Goblin | but..... | May 15 18:32 |
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| schestowitz | In summary, good news | May 15 18:32 |
| amarsh04 | gnu fdisk 1.2.5 released http://www.gnu.org/software/fdisk/ | May 15 18:32 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: fdisk - GNU Project - Free Software Foundation (FSF) .::. Size~: 4.82 KB | May 15 18:32 |
| schestowitz | I got it all sorted | May 15 18:32 |
| _Goblin | you again chopped a few seconds from the beginning of the intro! | May 15 18:32 |
| schestowitz | FOSS and SIP wise | May 15 18:32 |
| schestowitz | I can elaborate | May 15 18:32 |
| _Goblin | elcome to the techbytes audiocast | May 15 18:32 |
| _Goblin | :) | May 15 18:32 |
| schestowitz | And send you the test files I worked with | May 15 18:32 |
| ThistleWeb | el comb? | May 15 18:32 |
| _Goblin | :) | May 15 18:32 |
| schestowitz | I ensured we can do audio and video at the same time too | May 15 18:32 |
| _Goblin | yep ... | May 15 18:32 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] "Adding sound to movies would be like putting lipstick on the Venus de Milo."~Mary Pickford, "America's Sweetheart" !q | May 15 18:32 | |
| schestowitz | And it goes directly into audacity | May 15 18:33 |
| _Goblin | the "hello and.." was missing | May 15 18:33 |
| _Goblin | schestowitz: great stuff! | May 15 18:33 |
| schestowitz | separately, so less chance of anything being lost | May 15 18:33 |
| ThistleWeb | hello was implied | May 15 18:33 |
| schestowitz | Just needs some live testing later | May 15 18:33 |
| schestowitz | I also capture system events | May 15 18:33 |
| schestowitz | Enabling some show noises | May 15 18:33 |
| schestowitz | Like transitions | May 15 18:33 |
| _Goblin | :) | May 15 18:34 |
| schestowitz | [18:32] <_Goblin> you again chopped a few seconds from the beginning of the intro! | May 15 18:34 |
| schestowitz | How so? | May 15 18:34 |
| schestowitz | I listened to verify | May 15 18:34 |
| _Goblin | its starts.... | May 15 18:34 |
| _Goblin | "elcome to the techbytes audiocast, Im tim ........etc etc" | May 15 18:34 |
| schestowitz | which filename? | May 15 18:34 |
| _Goblin | wheres the "Hello and welcome"? ;) | May 15 18:35 |
| ThistleWeb | it's implied | May 15 18:35 |
| _Goblin | lol | May 15 18:35 |
| _Goblin | schestowitz: its not an issue.......really.....its very good of you to do the editing at all | May 15 18:35 |
| schestowitz | ogg works ok | May 15 18:36 |
| schestowitz | mp3 too | May 15 18:36 |
| _Goblin | right....Gordon hope you are wanting to do a show today... | May 15 18:36 |
| ThistleWeb | I can do, does that mean I need to screw around with sip? | May 15 18:37 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: sure it's not a bad download on your side? | May 15 18:37 |
| schestowitz | ThistleWeb: not really | May 15 18:37 |
| schestowitz | we'll use other method while transitioning | May 15 18:37 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @fabsh I have heard you talk about #Poettering frequently on !lo. | May 15 18:37 | |
| ThistleWeb | don't get me wrong, sip is fine, but the last time I actually had sip working was a couple of yrs ago on ubuntu | May 15 18:38 |
| ThistleWeb | had issues with it ever since | May 15 18:38 |
| *schestowitz has 4 SIP clients installed | May 15 18:38 | |
| schestowitz | The good thing is, I don't depend on any particular one for recording | May 15 18:39 |
| schestowitz | Although one has a built-in recorder | May 15 18:39 |
| schestowitz | and this also gives room for desktop sounds | May 15 18:39 |
| schestowitz | I reduced the noise level | May 15 18:39 |
| ThistleWeb | no idea how torun linphone with a gui either | May 15 18:39 |
| schestowitz | And checked the filters we use | May 15 18:39 |
| schestowitz | So the quality won't be too bad | May 15 18:39 |
| schestowitz | linphone-3 | May 15 18:39 |
| schestowitz | I had the same issue | May 15 18:40 |
| schestowitz | when you fetch linphone from repos you don't want to run the executable called linphone | May 15 18:40 |
| schestowitz | gtk-recordmydesktop works ok too | May 15 18:40 |
| schestowitz | I have about 15 test files lying around since noon | May 15 18:41 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: did you get my dents re favicon and logo? | May 15 18:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @fontana I made clear he works for RH when we interviewed him. ;) | May 15 18:41 | |
| schestowitz | I tested these from the gym too, they liked the site design as well | May 15 18:41 |
| ThistleWeb | ooh linphone's awrite | May 15 18:41 |
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| ThistleWeb | _Goblin: schestowitz you wanna have a test call to see if it actually works at my end? | May 15 18:42 |
| schestowitz | I gotta watch some stuff ATM so can't | May 15 18:42 |
| schestowitz | I hope Tim can | May 15 18:42 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @fabsh oh, I missed that episode. :-) I also have decided to skip the recent one where you interview the #Minecraft guy | May 15 18:42 | |
| _Goblin | yep...I can...just going for a smoke! | May 15 18:43 |
| ThistleWind | other sip stuff I've tried seemed to be fine, just wouldnt ring or connect | May 15 18:43 |
| ThistleWind | k | May 15 18:43 |
| _Goblin | yeah no probs.... I'll let you know here when Ive made a coffee and finished smoking! | May 15 18:43 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @fontana No worries. :) | May 15 18:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @fabsh @bkuhn I have learned to distrust assumptions of RHT employment - remember some think @jspaleta is !RedHat employee for some reason | May 15 18:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] RT @jwildeboer Dear Mark Shuttleworth, honest FOSS w/out (c) assignment works quite OK. #needhelp ? Yours, Red Hat :-) http://ur1.ca/45bwy | May 15 18:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Resubscribed to @jwildeboer now that #ESC is over | May 15 18:47 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | May 15 18:47 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] LOL ♺ @fontana: Resubscribed to @jwildeboer now that #ESC is over | May 15 18:49 | |
| DaemonFC | damn | May 15 18:53 |
| DaemonFC | I'm cleaning my bathroom, looks like Chewbacca has been using it | May 15 18:54 |
| DaemonFC | well, looked | May 15 18:54 |
| DaemonFC | nothing some good old fashioned environmentally unfriendly chemicals and a shop vac didn't fix | May 15 18:54 |
| DaemonFC | I don't want to mop | May 15 18:55 |
| DaemonFC | can I outsource this? | May 15 18:55 |
| DaemonFC | :P | May 15 18:55 |
| _Goblin | ThistleWind: right...Im ready | May 15 18:56 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/73564509 | May 15 18:57 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Ryan Rix (rrix)'s status on Sunday, 15-May-11 17:05:03 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz but but, #freedom ;) | May 15 18:57 |
| schestowitz | [18:54] <DaemonFC> I'm cleaning my bathroom, looks like Chewbacca has been using it | May 15 18:58 |
| schestowitz | Your landlord | May 15 18:58 |
| schestowitz | And the lady next door came to shave Chewbacca | May 15 18:58 |
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| _Goblin | schestowitz: are you on sip? | May 15 19:03 |
| _Goblin | ive got my address now sip:Goblin@sip.linphone.org | May 15 19:03 |
| schestowitz | try phoning m | May 15 19:09 |
| _Goblin | two secs...just testing Thistle | May 15 19:10 |
| schestowitz | found what was misconfigured | May 15 19:21 |
| schestowitz | need to retry now | May 15 19:21 |
| schestowitz | will test sample | May 15 19:21 |
| *DaemonFC sends Dawn over to shave schestowitz | May 15 19:22 | |
| DaemonFC | :P | May 15 19:22 |
| _Goblin | Right...just going downstairs for a few minutes.......will be up shortly.... | May 15 19:22 |
| _Goblin | (to schestowitz and ThistleWind ) | May 15 19:22 |
| schestowitz | ok | May 15 19:23 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.ubuntu.com/news/LinspirePartnership | May 15 19:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Canonical and Linspire Announce Technology Partnership | Ubuntu .::. Size~: 39.88 KB | May 15 19:24 |
| DaemonFC | hehe | May 15 19:24 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Making glass is fucking time-consuming. | May 15 19:24 | |
| schestowitz | where is that light my fire swf? | May 15 19:24 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.ubuntu.com/download/derivatives | May 15 19:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Error processing the URL: HTTP/1.0 404 Not Found | May 15 19:25 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 15 19:26 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: that linspire link is old | May 15 19:26 |
| sebsebseb | also Linspire went bye bye | May 15 19:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] @fabsh you don't have to stand there while it cooks..... | May 15 19:26 | |
| sebsebseb | so did Xandros I guess really, or pretty much | May 15 19:26 |
| DaemonFC | http://kevincarmony.com/linspire_videos/RunLinspire.swf | May 15 19:26 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting application/x-shockwave-flash type | May 15 19:26 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: also Ubuntu this that and the other, Canonical this that and the other, can be quite annoying for me these days, to much of these junk articles about them and such on the web now as well | May 15 19:27 |
| sebsebseb | and people's comments and uh | May 15 19:27 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @tekk Really? I never knew that. /sarcasm | May 15 19:27 | |
| sebsebseb | and in general I don't like Linux articles as much as I used to, it seems more recently most of them aren't as good as before even | May 15 19:28 |
| DaemonFC | ZOMG INTEGRATED GOOGLE SEARCH!!! | May 15 19:28 |
| DaemonFC | innovative | May 15 19:28 |
| sebsebseb | Oh my Ubuntu it's so amazing, oh and Canonical of course since they are behind it, oh my, oh my so amazing | May 15 19:29 |
| sebsebseb | uh hang on uhmm | May 15 19:29 |
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| sebsebseb | most of the packages it can run aern't even made by them! | May 15 19:29 |
| sebsebseb | plus all they done really is taken Debian and done some stuff to it! | May 15 19:29 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] @fabsh then go do something productive while you wait ;D | May 15 19:29 | |
| sebsebseb | so is Ubuntu rather amazing as a result? Nope! | May 15 19:29 |
| DaemonFC | UBUNTU!!!!!!!! ZOMG!!!!!! OMGUBUNTU!!!!! MONOMONOMONOMONO!!!!!! | May 15 19:29 |
| *DaemonFC cums | May 15 19:29 | |
| DaemonFC | :P | May 15 19:29 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: plus now we got this Canonical copyright assignments stuff to worry about | May 15 19:30 |
| DaemonFC | well, you know, something something something keep your potted plant | May 15 19:30 |
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| DaemonFC | it made sense to him I guess | May 15 19:30 |
| sebsebseb | http://lxnews.org/2011/05/15/shuttleworth-proprietarisation-plans/ | May 15 19:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Shuttleworth Hints at Possible Proprietarisation Plans .::. Size~: 29.84 KB | May 15 19:30 |
| DaemonFC | yes, Ubuntu is a walled garden | May 15 19:31 |
| theshowthatsux | the MAC of Linux in some ways | May 15 19:31 |
| sebsebseb | what you mean walled garden? | May 15 19:31 |
| DaemonFC | they're doing everything they can to be hostile to free software while claiming to promote it | May 15 19:31 |
| sebsebseb | theshowthatsux: yep | May 15 19:31 |
| theshowthatsux | still open but yet not | May 15 19:31 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: yeah they aer doing certain things like the propritary software vendors, but whilst saying they are for spreading free software and such | May 15 19:32 |
| DaemonFC | I actually liked GNOME 2 | May 15 19:32 |
| schestowitz | hi, theshowthatsux | May 15 19:32 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: same here I like Gnome 2 :) | May 15 19:32 |
| DaemonFC | it was stable, usable, and then....ugghhh | May 15 19:32 |
| DaemonFC | there's just no way any sane person will tolerate Unity or GNOME 3 | May 15 19:32 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: what about Shell? | May 15 19:33 |
| schestowitz | theshowthatsux: ever used mumble before? | May 15 19:33 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, You mean gnomes hell? | May 15 19:33 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 15 19:33 |
| schestowitz | no | May 15 19:33 |
| schestowitz | gnome sHell | May 15 19:33 |
| theshowthatsux | oh not sure on that <DaemonFC> | May 15 19:33 |
| schestowitz | mostly red hat's work | May 15 19:33 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, and it sucks | May 15 19:34 |
| sebsebseb | not tried the latest Gnome Shell yet, because of ceratin things, but uhmm from what I seen of that on sites and such, yeah looks good, however I think I will probably prefer the old preview version I got on other computer in Mandriva 2010.2 | May 15 19:34 |
| DaemonFC | worse than Unity | May 15 19:34 |
| DaemonFC | it doesn't crash, that's a plus | May 15 19:34 |
| theshowthatsux | <DaemonFC> some people will like it not my pref but hay to each there own | May 15 19:34 |
| DaemonFC | you have to use dconf-editor to set your theme | May 15 19:34 |
| DaemonFC | that's ridiculous | May 15 19:34 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @tekk Meh. My inventory is full and I already have too many chests... | May 15 19:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] RT @fabsh @bkuhn You applied to RH as well? You coroprate bastard! :D | May 15 19:34 | |
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| DaemonFC | the compositor is stable and fast, that's a plus | May 15 19:34 |
| DaemonFC | you can't minimize windows | May 15 19:34 |
| sebsebseb | no Gnome Shell is much better than Unity really :) | May 15 19:34 |
| DaemonFC | that sucks :) | May 15 19:34 |
| DaemonFC | GNOME 3 is just fine, as far as not crashing all the time like Unity | May 15 19:35 |
| sebsebseb | Unity is really just the Gnome 2 patches they did, with a dock down the left | May 15 19:35 |
| sebsebseb | and | May 15 19:35 |
| DaemonFC | but the interface is worse | May 15 19:35 |
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| sebsebseb | well a bar at the top | May 15 19:35 |
| DaemonFC | it's more rigid, less customizable | May 15 19:35 |
| DaemonFC | and I think that's always a bad thing | May 15 19:35 |
| *theshowthatsux is now known as Rusty | May 15 19:35 | |
| DaemonFC | if you want a desktop that crashes all the time (Unity), you can just keep using Windows | May 15 19:36 |
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| DaemonFC | if you want a desktop you can't customize much (GNOME 3), you can use Windows | May 15 19:36 |
| sebsebseb | oh it's Rusty | May 15 19:36 |
| _Goblin | Hi Rusty! | May 15 19:36 |
| DaemonFC | Windows lets you change the background and the color scheme | May 15 19:36 |
| *Rusty is now known as Real-Rusty | May 15 19:36 | |
| sebsebseb | Hi Rusty | May 15 19:36 |
| Real-Rusty | better | May 15 19:36 |
| _Goblin | theres another rusty? | May 15 19:36 |
| Real-Rusty | looks like so | May 15 19:36 |
| sebsebseb | Real-Rusty: your famous around here now (ok not quite), because of Techbytes | May 15 19:37 |
| Real-Rusty | some one registered it on the server | May 15 19:37 |
| _Goblin | ah | May 15 19:37 |
| DaemonFC | what if Microsoft said that to change the color scheme, you had to go fishing around in regedit | May 15 19:37 |
| DaemonFC | that's what GNOME did | May 15 19:37 |
| DaemonFC | I also don't get their insistence on abusing dconf | May 15 19:38 |
| DaemonFC | errr abusing dbus | May 15 19:38 |
| DaemonFC | with dconf | May 15 19:38 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: well whatever, at least with Ubuntu Classic Desktop in 11.04, they un messed something up :) | May 15 19:38 |
| Real-Rusty | <DaemonFC> ya but that is actually what the game plan was with unity bad for people who like to customise | May 15 19:38 |
| DaemonFC | the registry was a bad idea on Windows, gconf made a lot of the same problems, but dconf is worse | May 15 19:38 |
| DaemonFC | and what's even worse is some apps use gconf and some use dconf | May 15 19:39 |
| DaemonFC | and some use both | May 15 19:39 |
| Real-Rusty | MS has actually tied to lock the WIN UI a few times but hackers said cool free money to wright customization themes | May 15 19:39 |
| DaemonFC | their settings system in GNOME 3 is a clusterfuck | May 15 19:39 |
| sebsebseb | yay they gave users choice on how to shut down and log out graphically in 11.04's Ubuntu Classic Desktop, so on the top right, with their lame do you really want to messages, or the upstream Gnome 2 way like they used to before 10.04, with shut down and log out in system menu, and the auto shut down if untouched after a minute feature :D | May 15 19:39 |
| DaemonFC | what could be worse than thousands of little dot files? Go use GNOME and find out | May 15 19:40 |
| DaemonFC | tell me how it works out for you | May 15 19:40 |
| sebsebseb | so yeah at least that got sorted out in the last version of Ubuntu to have Gnome 2 with their patches | May 15 19:40 |
| DaemonFC | GNOME 3's lack of a shut down feature is retarded | May 15 19:40 |
| DaemonFC | it turns 2 clicks into 2 clicks to log out and 2 more to turn the system off | May 15 19:41 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: wel I think it's hold a button down on the keyboard, to show it, but yeah that's stupid really | May 15 19:41 |
| I did not like gnome desktop much when it worked. Did they make it even more Microsoft? | May 15 19:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[firefoxmilestones/@firefoxmilestones] #Firefox4 reached 162 million downloads on 2011-05-15 18:37 UTC | May 15 19:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] It's royally pissing me off that I need iron for my fucking rail and all I get is hundreds of blocks of redstone. Gah! !miners | May 15 19:41 | |
| DaemonFC | twitter, They did a few things worse | May 15 19:41 |
| DaemonFC | :P | May 15 19:41 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: also that Gnome have removed the screensavers is a bit stupid realy | May 15 19:41 |
| DaemonFC | I'm not talking free software vs proprietary, strictly on the merits of user interface I'd rather use Windows than GNOME 3 | May 15 19:42 |
| DaemonFC | but gladly there's other options :P | May 15 19:42 |
| sebsebseb | in fact screensavers was one of the things that got me to really like my first Linux distro, which was Fedora Core 2, and I coudn't use it online since... | May 15 19:42 |
| eh, I use xscreensaver and blank screen | May 15 19:42 | |
| sebsebseb | ,but I was rather impressed at all these great screensavers that came with it by default, unlike WIndows | May 15 19:42 |
| DaemonFC | my screensaver is still the flying toasters | May 15 19:42 |
| sebsebseb | oh and Open Office looked really nice | May 15 19:42 |
| you can still play with wmfire and wmcube | May 15 19:42 | |
| sebsebseb | and the nice Redhat logo and so on :D | May 15 19:42 |
| Open Office still looks very nice | May 15 19:43 | |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: my little brother has seen many of the Linux screensavers, and that's his favourite | May 15 19:43 |
| Real-Rusty | libre | May 15 19:43 |
| I hope the Gnome people have not wrecked font rendering, that was nice | May 15 19:43 | |
| sebsebseb | many or quite a few above, screensavers | May 15 19:43 |
| sebsebseb | Linux screensavers | May 15 19:43 |
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| sebsebseb | Real-Rusty: by the way if the person who has the Rusty name hasn't logged in for long enough, you may be able to get it | May 15 19:44 |
| sebsebseb | and then register it on the network and yep | May 15 19:44 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] And now.... GRAVEL! Gah!!!! !miners | May 15 19:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @fontana I doubt it. @bkuhn says what he thinks most of the time. That's what I like about him. | May 15 19:44 | |
| Real-Rusty | was asking for a pass | May 15 19:44 |
| Real-Rusty | so not long enough | May 15 19:44 |
| sebsebseb | turn nick protection on even, so others can't use it | May 15 19:44 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: phone me to test rec | May 15 19:44 |
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| _Goblin | yep | May 15 19:45 |
| _Goblin | youre showing busy | May 15 19:45 |
| sebsebseb | Real-Rusty: well yeah if it's registered on the network, and they turend on nick protecton, it will want the pass, and then 30 seconds to give hte pass or can't be on the name | May 15 19:45 |
| Real-Rusty | they expire after a while but long while | May 15 19:46 |
| Real-Rusty | most of my IRC nicks are probably expired | May 15 19:46 |
| sebsebseb | yep if they haven't been identifed to the network | May 15 19:46 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: me? | May 15 19:46 |
| _Goblin | yeah | May 15 19:46 |
| _Goblin | just tried again | May 15 19:46 |
| _Goblin | "user is busy" | May 15 19:47 |
| Real-Rusty | <_Goblin> you dont even show as online | May 15 19:47 |
| schestowitz | and now? | May 15 19:47 |
| _Goblin | still busy | May 15 19:47 |
| _Goblin | might be an issue my end.... | May 15 19:47 |
| _Goblin | Real-Rusty: we are just running something with SIP | May 15 19:47 |
| sebsebseb | Real-Rusty: your doing nick highlihting a bit wrong by the way, you don't need the < and > and uhmm type first few letters of a name, and hit tab, to auto complete | May 15 19:47 |
| _Goblin | lol | May 15 19:48 |
| schestowitz | could use mumble | May 15 19:48 |
| schestowitz | hold on | May 15 19:48 |
| schestowitz | has everyone install mumble? | May 15 19:48 |
| schestowitz | *lled | May 15 19:48 |
| _Goblin | no.... | May 15 19:48 |
| _Goblin | linphone here | May 15 19:48 |
| _Goblin | thistleweb has complete sip probs | May 15 19:48 |
| sebsebseb | or if your me, you only really do the first letter of the name and hit tab and then mess up auto complete in bigger channels quite a bit :D | May 15 19:48 |
| _Goblin | rusty is with skype.... | May 15 19:48 |
| _Goblin | I was going to revert | May 15 19:48 |
| Real-Rusty | _Goblin: ya have some bad habits from a clinet I used that just let me click every thing | May 15 19:48 |
| DaemonFC | sebsebseb, There was also Flying Toilets | May 15 19:49 |
| DaemonFC | I used that as my screensaver on Windows 98 | May 15 19:49 |
| DaemonFC | :P | May 15 19:49 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: try now | May 15 19:49 |
| _Goblin | ok | May 15 19:49 |
| sebsebseb | I did listen to a bit of the Fedora eisode whilst trying to test that headset I got, but yeah not properly just yet, but oh that will be an interesting episode it seems | May 15 19:49 |
| Real-Rusty | DaemonFC: just what I want crap on the fly | May 15 19:49 |
| sebsebseb | ,but also the Skype episode will be obviouly | May 15 19:49 |
| schestowitz | hmm.. | May 15 19:50 |
| sebsebseb | and yeah might listen to those later or tommmorwo or wahtever | May 15 19:50 |
| schestowitz | I think audacity takes the signal | May 15 19:50 |
| sebsebseb | ,but anyway yeah Microsoft Skype for certian guests :D | May 15 19:50 |
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| DaemonFC | damn it | May 15 19:50 |
| sebsebseb | also it's not like there is a proper alternative to Skype anyway | May 15 19:50 |
| _Goblin | well in the interests of time and SIP issues with Gordon I suggest we just go with Skype tonight | May 15 19:50 |
| DaemonFC | if it wasn't a $2,500 fine for firing a gun in town..... | May 15 19:50 |
| _Goblin | sebsebseb: SIP? | May 15 19:50 |
| ThistleWeb | _Goblin: try the thistleweb agan | May 15 19:50 |
| _Goblin | ok | May 15 19:50 |
| DaemonFC | I'd use those birds shitting on my car as target practice | May 15 19:51 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: try again | May 15 19:51 |
| your car shits on birds | May 15 19:51 | |
| sebsebseb | _Goblin: don't you need some like weird program like Ekiga to use SIP? and I say weird program like Ekiga becasue I remember having it open before, and thinking like, how to use this | May 15 19:51 |
| MinceR | a car that shits? | May 15 19:51 |
| Real-Rusty | _Goblin: is he using the free SIP or his IP as an SIP | May 15 19:51 |
| look at the tailpipe | May 15 19:51 | |
| and Deepwater Horizon | May 15 19:51 | |
| sebsebseb | Real-Rusty: ok so your going to be in Tedhbytes again today? | May 15 19:52 |
| ThistleWeb | well, that worked.....:( | May 15 19:52 |
| lots of dead birds there, they would like shit better | May 15 19:52 | |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: ? | May 15 19:52 |
| Real-Rusty | sebsebseb: Though so but I can go if not wantedc | May 15 19:52 |
| Real-Rusty | wantedc = wanted | May 15 19:52 |
| sebsebseb | Real-Rusty: of course your wanted :) | May 15 19:52 |
| sebsebseb | only heard one episdoe with you it propery so far, but that was good | May 15 19:53 |
| _Goblin | Real-Rusty: we've tried both | May 15 19:53 |
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| Real-Rusty | so using skype | May 15 19:53 |
| _Goblin | yep | May 15 19:53 |
| _Goblin | I'll be on forthwith | May 15 19:53 |
| sebsebseb | heh quite a few Linux users may end up making an exception to the, not using Microsoft thing | May 15 19:54 |
| _Goblin | roy is just fiddling at the moment | May 15 19:54 |
| sebsebseb | when it comes to Skype :D | May 15 19:54 |
| Real-Rusty | _Goblin: so you know nun of you show as on line on my end | May 15 19:54 |
| _Goblin | yeah we wont | May 15 19:54 |
| _Goblin | we've been playing with sip | May 15 19:54 |
| _Goblin | roys got some ideas with audacity | May 15 19:54 |
| _Goblin | like I say.....he's fiddling | May 15 19:54 |
| _Goblin | ;) | May 15 19:54 |
| Real-Rusty | ah fiddling | May 15 19:55 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @fontana I totally second that. @jonobacon does exactly what his job demands. Not something I wanna do myself AFAICT, though..... | May 15 19:56 | |
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| _Goblin | mmm | May 15 19:58 |
| _Goblin | schestowitz: nothing my end | May 15 19:58 |
| schestowitz | can you hear me? | May 15 19:58 |
| _Goblin | no | May 15 19:58 |
| schestowitz | hmm... | May 15 19:58 |
| _Goblin | you hear me? | May 15 19:58 |
| schestowitz | no | May 15 19:58 |
| schestowitz | hold on | May 15 19:58 |
| ThistleWeb | the joys of sip | May 15 19:58 |
| *ThistleWeb leans back puffing a pipe "was it quiet for you?" | May 15 19:59 | |
| _Goblin | its you lot...its brought it bad luck | May 15 19:59 |
| _Goblin | it was fine for me and Roy previously | May 15 19:59 |
| _Goblin | you've sucked the life out of SIP. | May 15 19:59 |
| _Goblin | ;) | May 15 19:59 |
| ThistleWeb | as I said, I only ever got sip working once, ages ago | May 15 19:59 |
| Real-Rusty | _Goblin: you never tried with me wonder if mine even works | May 15 19:59 |
| ThistleWeb | every other time it gets the same hassle we just went through | May 15 20:00 |
| _Goblin | I think at this point its accademic since Gordon is no go. | May 15 20:00 |
| ThistleWeb | my plan was to jump into the mint partition, it at least plays nice with skype and pulse audio | May 15 20:00 |
| ThistleWeb | but it's still a non starter with sip | May 15 20:00 |
| schestowitz | sip works | May 15 20:00 |
| ThistleWeb | aledgedly | May 15 20:01 |
| ThistleWeb | lol | May 15 20:01 |
| _Goblin | as I say me and roy had it working fine | May 15 20:01 |
| schestowitz | it's the recording of all desktop activities that's tricker | May 15 20:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] I fucking hate gravel! !miners | May 15 20:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @fontana I don't think it's actually that hard to do. You just need to squeeze your balls together, I'd do it only for *very* good money. | May 15 20:01 | |
| Real-Rusty | I could get SIP audio working with Comidore but we could never get vid phone working | May 15 20:01 |
| _Goblin | right .....must...go downstairs....coffee | May 15 20:01 |
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| schestowitz | _Goblin: have one last go at it with linphone | May 15 20:05 |
| schestowitz | Re: Mejor que nunca | May 15 20:07 |
| schestowitz | > Fue mejor que yo mismo puede escribir: | May 15 20:07 |
| schestowitz | > | May 15 20:07 |
| schestowitz | > http://techrights.org/2011/05/14/gracias-a-groklaw/ | May 15 20:07 |
| schestowitz | > | May 15 20:07 |
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| schestowitz | > No escribo bien. | May 15 20:07 |
| schestowitz | Real-Rusty: thanks for the channel you put up to entertain | May 15 20:09 |
| schestowitz | I listen to it while I do things around the house | May 15 20:10 |
| _Goblin | ok its showing busy | May 15 20:10 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: house? I thought you lived and now live in another flat? | May 15 20:10 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: notice who is back here? | May 15 20:11 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: trying your address | May 15 20:11 |
| Real-Rusty | schestowitz: still surprised any one watches | May 15 20:11 |
| DaemonFC | jono the trusty Ubuntu sales rep | May 15 20:11 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: do you not see incoming? | May 15 20:12 |
| _Goblin | no | May 15 20:12 |
| _Goblin | funnily enough, its showing you as offline now | May 15 20:12 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: that's an interesting way to put it, and now I am thinking holiday resport reps | May 15 20:12 |
| sebsebseb | resort above | May 15 20:12 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: i am | May 15 20:12 |
| schestowitz | not registered there | May 15 20:12 |
| ThistleWeb | DaemonFC: why do you feel the need to constantly attack jono? | May 15 20:12 |
| ThistleWeb | it's like you're obsessed with him | May 15 20:12 |
| DaemonFC | don't know really | May 15 20:12 |
| DaemonFC | possibly | May 15 20:13 |
| schestowitz | and now? | May 15 20:13 |
| ThistleWeb | any excuse to attack him or ubuntu | May 15 20:13 |
| DaemonFC | recommending Unity and Ubuntu One with a shit eating grin | May 15 20:13 |
| DaemonFC | it's entertaining | May 15 20:13 |
| ThistleWeb | yeah I was told you'd changed | May 15 20:13 |
| DaemonFC | It's so rockin', it crashes whenever you click on something, just ignore that and buy stuff from us | May 15 20:14 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: you try? | May 15 20:14 |
| schestowitz | One last go? | May 15 20:14 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 15 20:14 |
| ThistleWeb | so you don't like it, so what? | May 15 20:14 |
| _Goblin | schestowitz: ok | May 15 20:14 |
| ThistleWeb | ya know what, forget it, you've obviously dedicated your online life to trolling jono and ubuntu | May 15 20:15 |
| schestowitz | I can hear you | May 15 20:15 |
| schestowitz | And record you | May 15 20:15 |
| sebsebseb | ThistleWeb: maybe DaemonFC is secretly jealous of Jono, I mean he's probably being paid quite a bit for what he does | May 15 20:15 |
| ThistleWeb | sebsebseb: I don't care | May 15 20:15 |
| schestowitz | yeah | May 15 20:15 |
| schestowitz | I get both voices on file | May 15 20:16 |
| ThistleWeb | all I see is constant trolling, find a reason to bitch about something I don't even use | May 15 20:16 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Getting another beer and watching The Mentalist. :) | May 15 20:16 | |
| ThistleWeb | it's pathetic | May 15 20:16 |
| schestowitz | but yonly I can hear both sides | May 15 20:16 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDW_Hj2K0wo | May 15 20:16 |
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| schestowitz | I need to sort out input device | May 15 20:16 |
| schestowitz | And then it's sorted | May 15 20:16 |
| schestowitz | say something for testing | May 15 20:16 |
| MinceR | to be fair, canonical changed too | May 15 20:17 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: yeah indeed it has | May 15 20:17 |
| sebsebseb | 10.04 was the start of the changes | May 15 20:18 |
| sebsebseb | basicalley or aorund then | May 15 20:18 |
| DaemonFC | Red Hat gave up trying to make money from desktop users back in the 90s | May 15 20:18 |
| DaemonFC | but company after company forms, tries to turn Linux into cheap Windows or cheap Mac | May 15 20:18 |
| DaemonFC | and goes bankrupt :) | May 15 20:18 |
| sebsebseb | Mandrake used to make money out of Desktop users, but in a good way as well | May 15 20:18 |
| Sony data breach overblown? http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9216724/Is_Sony_getting_a_bad_rap_on_its_data_breach_?taxonomyId=17&pageNumber=1 | May 15 20:19 | |
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| not so much as Windows problems are ignored | May 15 20:19 | |
| sebsebseb | ,but then Mandrake/Mandriva had to deal with company issues, and broadband taking off, but also Canonical, and well yeah they lost most users | May 15 20:19 |
| DaemonFC | It's not that desktop Linux is useless, it's just that there's no way to make money from it when the only differences between most distributions are cosmetic and most don't cost anything | May 15 20:19 |
| With one in two Windows machines part of a botnet, only a fool would put a credit card into it. | May 15 20:20 | |
| DaemonFC | I'm not exactly an economics major, but perhaps Linspire went under because of that | May 15 20:20 |
| DaemonFC | perhaps Red Hat stopped making a desktop version, because of that :) | May 15 20:20 |
| sebsebseb | Ubuntu got started at a time, when things were starting to go quite wrong for Mandriva | May 15 20:20 |
| sebsebseb | Mandrake I mean | May 15 20:20 |
| DaemonFC | well, there's no way to make money on desktop Linux home users | May 15 20:21 |
| Red Hat and IBM are doing just fine. Android is killing everyone. Desktop gnu/linux is profitable, just not the way Microsoft does things. | May 15 20:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !GNU !GRUB 1.99 Released « I hadn't even realized Version 2.0 wasn't official. So widely used? http://ping.fm/RpCOV | May 15 20:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Finally back home after a week in Budapest at UDS. Great week, but glad to be back home. :-) | May 15 20:21 | |
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| DaemonFC | been tried 100 different ways, all crops were lost | May 15 20:21 |
| Real-Rusty | Linspire had alot wrong with it | May 15 20:21 |
| DaemonFC | they need to find a way to make Ubuntu a real enterprise distribution if they want any money | May 15 20:21 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: there is a way to make proper money out of Desktop Linux home users, if it's done right, but from what I have seen of the recent Ubuntu with Canonical's attempts at doing this, they aren't really doing things right | May 15 20:21 |
| Only Microsoft and Apple have managed to make money the Microsoft way. | May 15 20:21 | |
| Everyone else has gone under. | May 15 20:21 | |
| Would you say that it's impossible to make money with Windows? | May 15 20:22 | |
| sebsebseb | twitter: no | May 15 20:22 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] The Art of Community - now available in Japanese! http://is.gd/UqxVpJ #community | May 15 20:22 | |
| It's possible, but anyone who tries to work with Microsoft will be destroyed. | May 15 20:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @jonobacon he would have been the one who sent you a CV in #LaTeX | May 15 20:22 | |
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| DaemonFC | Ubuntu is not making money because nobody wants to donate to a for profit company, and nobody wants to buy things that are overpriced or useless to them | May 15 20:23 |
| Is Ubuntu not making money? | May 15 20:23 | |
| DaemonFC | Ubuntu One is a good example of something that is more expensive than the competition | May 15 20:23 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: and people won't trust Canonical properly many people who know about stuff, since they have copyright assignments | May 15 20:23 |
| sebsebseb | as for their average user, they may buy some music and something from the software centre, but that's about all they will be willing to pay, oh and some will buy more space for Ubuntu One | May 15 20:24 |
| Big publishers will always put others at a disadvantage, what's new? | May 15 20:24 | |
| sebsebseb | ,but really the average user went Ubuntu, because of all the hype, and how it's free as in price | May 15 20:24 |
| sebsebseb | and yeah how won't just get viruses whilst using it | May 15 20:24 |
| and it works | May 15 20:24 | |
| for the most part | May 15 20:24 | |
| DaemonFC | yeah, they don't say there are no viruses for Linux, they say Ubuntu has built-in virus protection | May 15 20:25 |
| DaemonFC | and then they go on to call Windows a PC | May 15 20:25 |
| sebsebseb | in fact many of Ubuntu's users would probably be quite interested in ReactOS, if it was more developed | May 15 20:25 |
| sebsebseb | if it was properly developed | May 15 20:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] @fontana: LOL | May 15 20:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] What a day my head is hurting me and I'm so tired | May 15 20:26 | |
| why? | May 15 20:26 | |
| DaemonFC | there's a lot of things that Wine has never had to do because the operating system it runs on takes care of that for it | May 15 20:26 |
| sebsebseb | twitter: why to who? | May 15 20:26 |
| DaemonFC | so most of what ReactOS has to do is fill in that gap | May 15 20:26 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: well yeah Wine can't run Windows drivers, but ReactOS will be able to | May 15 20:27 |
| sebsebseb | for example | May 15 20:27 |
| why would anyone want that? | May 15 20:27 | |
| sebsebseb | that's what people want really | May 15 20:27 |
| sebsebseb | a free as in price and more secure alternative to Windows | May 15 20:27 |
| sebsebseb | and many people want to keep their WIndows apps as well | May 15 20:27 |
| MinceR | yay, another implementation of a failed design | May 15 20:27 |
| MinceR | just what we wanted | May 15 20:28 |
| people who want to keep their Windows apps mostly don't know better | May 15 20:28 | |
| people who want Windows drivers are insane | May 15 20:28 | |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: no read on the ReactOS website, it's a good design a good idea | May 15 20:28 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: it's just yeah right nwo things are rather alpha since lack of devs | May 15 20:28 |
| Real-Rusty | sebsebseb: problem is if they do that they also keep all those win viruses | May 15 20:28 |
| _Goblin | schestowitz: do you want me to call you? | May 15 20:28 |
| sebsebseb | Real-Rusty: no, because ReactOS is like running WIndows viruses in Wine, some work or partly work, many wont' | May 15 20:29 |
| Real-Rusty | OK yes but then not the 100% you are talking about | May 15 20:29 |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: no matter how many times they keep saying it, it doesn't make it a good idea | May 15 20:29 |
| trying to run a bunch of non free drivers is a bad idea, just use gnu/linux | May 15 20:30 | |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, They have to implement thousands of Windows bugs to be compatible with Windows | May 15 20:30 |
| DaemonFC | or implement a tricky compatibility shim system like newer versions of Windows use | May 15 20:30 |
| no matter how many bugs you implement, you will never escape Microsoft's malice | May 15 20:30 | |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: even if you mumble to yourself 24/7 "putting half the windowing system into the kernel is a really good idea" it will still be a stupid idea | May 15 20:30 |
| Real-Rusty | sebsebseb: if it is the 100% that idea claims people want then the viruses and so on come with, or it is only part way like wine and some things wont work | May 15 20:30 |
| DaemonFC | those are just there to make binary-only software seem like it's not fundamentally guaranteed to break | May 15 20:31 |
| MinceR | the way they handle filesystems will also remain braindead | May 15 20:31 |
| sebsebseb | they justifty the existence quite nicely on the http://reactos.org site take a read :) | May 15 20:31 |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR, Why would ReactOS need to use NTFS? | May 15 20:31 |
| Who would want to use NTFS? | May 15 20:31 | |
| sebsebseb | it also shares quite a lot of code with Wine more recently | May 15 20:31 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: a better question is why would you want to use an OS that keeps you from deleting files that are open | May 15 20:31 |
| sebsebseb | so when ReactOS is developed enough to run most Windows junkware apps that many people like | May 15 20:31 |
| sebsebseb | games and such you know propritary games and all this junk | May 15 20:32 |
| sebsebseb | anyway when that happens, Wine should be able to run them rather nicely as well | May 15 20:32 |
| If you want games, just buy a PS3, ha ha | May 15 20:32 | |
| MinceR | afaik reactos started taking code from wine | May 15 20:32 |
| MinceR | twitter: ew | May 15 20:32 |
| More secure than Windows | May 15 20:32 | |
| sebsebseb | twitter: MinceR no no even better buy a Microsoft Xbox 360 :D | May 15 20:32 |
| and the box works | May 15 20:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !Canonical joins GENIVI, creates !Ubuntu IVI Remix for In-Vehicle Infotainment systems http://ping.fm/5jwOO | May 15 20:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jonobacon And that's why we like him. @bkuhn should stay as he is. :) | May 15 20:32 | |
| xbox is big ick | May 15 20:32 | |
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| both are user hostile, but either is probably better than Windows | May 15 20:33 | |
| MinceR | twitter: you mean it works as long as sony wants it to work | May 15 20:33 |
| sebsebseb | looks like right now really Nintendo is the best to buy from if wanting a games console | May 15 20:33 |
| the user won't be tempted to use it for things that matter | May 15 20:33 | |
| MinceR | like the Other OS feature | May 15 20:33 |
| MinceR | well, PSN failed even though sony wanted it to work | May 15 20:33 |
| MinceR | so i guess it won't work even if they want it to | May 15 20:33 |
| it's a toy, so what? | May 15 20:34 | |
| I know someone who actually replaced their credit card because of the PS3 fiasco. | May 15 20:34 | |
| sebsebseb | twitter: MinceR maybe not obvious enough, I was joking about buying the Xbox | May 15 20:35 |
| sebsebseb | really all games consoles suck | May 15 20:35 |
| sebsebseb | why? | May 15 20:35 |
| sebsebseb | simple | May 15 20:35 |
| I asked him why he did not do this every time he heard about another Windows botnet. | May 15 20:35 | |
| _Goblin | ThistleWeb: you there? | May 15 20:35 |
| sebsebseb | they are very, very propritary | May 15 20:35 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, most operating systems today are either poorly designed, or were designed ad hoc and documented after the fact | May 15 20:35 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 15 20:35 |
| MinceR | twitter: yes, it's a _defective_ toy that is full of DRM and designed to betray its user. | May 15 20:35 |
| MinceR | and has done so on multiple occasions already. | May 15 20:35 |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: yes, the gaming console business model is abusive. | May 15 20:36 |
| I admit that I don't like having a Nintendo on my network, but there's worse at my ISP. | May 15 20:36 | |
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| sebsebseb | twitter: worse at your ISP? | May 15 20:36 |
| DPI, advert replacement, lots of java malice | May 15 20:36 | |
| Look up Broadcom, they suck like Comcast | May 15 20:37 | |
| sebsebseb | DPI ?? | May 15 20:37 |
| sebsebseb | meaning? | May 15 20:37 |
| sebsebseb | means | May 15 20:37 |
| Deep packet inspection, to replace advets and spy | May 15 20:37 | |
| sebsebseb | ah yes Deep Packet inspeciton | May 15 20:37 |
| MinceR | deep packet inspection | May 15 20:37 |
| Very nasty | May 15 20:37 | |
| sebsebseb | apparnetly even the ISP I am on, is possibly doing DPI | May 15 20:37 |
| MinceR | i didn't know broadcom was an isp | May 15 20:38 |
| that kind of thing requires a large hardware investment and produces lots of lag | May 15 20:38 | |
| sebsebseb | however unless you are the ISP, I guess it's a good idea to expect, that they may be spying on what is being done with it | May 15 20:38 |
| oh yeah, brain fart, Mediacom | May 15 20:38 | |
| sebsebseb | and with that said, I am going away from computer | May 15 20:38 |
| sebsebseb | to watch TV | May 15 20:38 |
| sebsebseb | back later | May 15 20:38 |
| DaemonFC | that reminds me, I got my settlement check from Comcast | May 15 20:38 |
| Microsoft partners are interchangeable | May 15 20:38 | |
| DaemonFC | $16 woohoo | May 15 20:39 |
| DaemonFC | I'm set for life | May 15 20:39 |
| DaemonFC | poor lawyers probably only made $2-3 million | May 15 20:39 |
| sebsebseb | bye bye | May 15 20:39 |
| http://mrpogson.com/2011/05/15/fear-haunts-users-of-that-other-os/ | May 15 20:39 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is jwildeboer with 128 dents! | May 15 20:41 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] #ESC I'm guessing? ♺ @mrdenticator: Yesterday top #statustician is jwildeboer with 128 dents! | May 15 20:42 | |
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| ThistleWeb | is the interwebs still alive? | May 15 20:52 |
| MinceR | it's alive! | May 15 20:52 |
| ThistleWeb | are we still trying to get skype working? | May 15 20:53 |
| Diablo-D3 | fuck microsoft. | May 15 20:54 |
| MinceR | +1 | May 15 20:55 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] quite a lackluster image http://coffee.jezra.net/coffee/20110515 #sip_and_click | May 15 21:01 | |
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| yeah, I have to wonder how long skype will keep working. | May 15 21:13 | |
| Will it be as quick a murder as Noikia? | May 15 21:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] Bad, bad, bad, bad, bad, bad, day. The leg is really hurting. Amputation seems like a viable option. | May 15 21:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @wayneborean :( not good | May 15 21:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jonobacon How much is your salary? :) CC @bkuhn | May 15 21:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @ioerror Understatement of the year from customs: "It's nice for us to see you again. I know it's not very nice for you to see us again" | May 15 21:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Jacob Appelbaum [@ioerror] is hassled as he attempts to pass from !Canada back to his home in #USA having attended a TO Security Conference | May 15 21:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] #needsleep Catch you tomorrow.... | May 15 21:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @Develop4AppUp: We're on a mission to code! Get your app on at the free #MeeGo #Intel #AppUp Application Lab @... http://intel.ly/jvje4v | May 15 21:32 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Narrative Disorder: Sample ink before you buy, even Down Under. http://ur1.ca/46oyz < makes me want 2 soak fountain pen 'til it works again | May 15 21:36 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Erica and I want to take a trip to Vegas. Anyone have any hotel hook-ups to get us a killer discount for a weekend away? | May 15 21:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] @fabsh: I don't work for a non-profit, so none of your business. :-) | May 15 21:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @MarietjeD66 RT @7billionvoices Thousands rally against web #censorship in #Turkey http://ur1.ca/46ozg (via @HDNER) #7BV #netfreedom | May 15 21:41 | |
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| _Goblin | : | May 15 21:42 |
| _Goblin | :) | May 15 21:42 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @ioerror Still, I had a wonderful time at the #CSIEL conference this weekend. Thanks to @KateMilberry for bringing me back to Toronto! | May 15 21:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @ioerror When the CBP officer tasked w/searching & questioning me was handed my file he literally slapped his forehead "Welcome back..." | May 15 21:47 | |
| *Real-Rusty is now known as Real-Rust|AFK | May 15 21:48 | |
| *Real-Rust|AFK is now known as Real-Rusty|AFK | May 15 21:48 | |
| _Goblin | right....off for some dinner....Kievs, chips and salad.... | May 15 21:50 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @ioerror I apologize for your ill treatment as a result of the apparently nefarious activity of visiting !Canada ... !cdnpoli | May 15 21:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @poissonjensen "Mother, should I trust the government?"~ Pink Floyd, The Wall !q | May 15 21:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @AnonyOps How does the US government tell you they don't Ike you? They harass you at the border every time you re-enter the country | May 15 21:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @BoingBoing Texas close to banning TSA searches, TSA invents desperate new constitutional interpretations http://ur1.ca/46p0g | May 15 21:54 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @Brainmaker Crafters! Makers! DIY! Oh my!! Win a pair of Maker Faire tickets (May 21-22) Here's how: http://ur1.ca/46p0x | May 15 21:56 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @kgosztola !WikiLeaks: The Unknown Prisoners of #Guantánamo (Part One of Five) http://ur1.ca/46p1c | May 15 22:01 | |
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| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/akuckartz/statuses/69818368038944768 | May 15 22:08 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @akuckartz: @schestowitz That codec article does not get the importance of the disputes. And #ie9 does not "support" #webm | May 15 22:08 |
| schestowitz | twitter: re Skype | May 15 22:09 |
| schestowitz | [21:13] <twitter> yeah, I have to wonder how long skype will keep working. | May 15 22:09 |
| schestowitz | We do not depend on it | May 15 22:09 |
| schestowitz | if they screwed up skype- BETTER | May 15 22:09 |
| schestowitz | That'll leave people flocking elsewhere, maybe SIP | May 15 22:09 |
| typical Microsoft -> ie9 does not "support" #webm | May 15 22:10 | |
| schestowitz | The problem right now *is* skype | May 15 22:10 |
| schestowitz | twitter: you'll see Google adding support for it | May 15 22:10 |
| schestowitz | and Microsoft then breaking it | May 15 22:10 |
| schestowitz | for mpeg-la commissions maybe | May 15 22:10 |
| like I said, typical Microsoft | May 15 22:10 | |
| they did the same to ogg theora | May 15 22:11 | |
| I wasted 30 minutes once doing as instructed to make XP play ogg theora movies so I could show my mom a movie on Wikipedia | May 15 22:12 | |
| it was broken by an update in a week or so | May 15 22:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Reading how important #Java is to #Oracle http://goo.gl/2Mjck yet they risk alienating the !Android community and losing Dalvik by suing? | May 15 22:12 | |
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| every minute spent trying to fix Windows is a wasted minute | May 15 22:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] "Don’t Panic: There’s an !Android app for when you get arrested" http://goo.gl/iDJkQ | May 15 22:14 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Don’t Panic: There’s an app for when you get arrested - Android app article - Caitlin M. Foyt | Appolicious ™ Android App Directory .::. Size~: 23.75 KB | May 15 22:14 |
| schestowitz | twitter: firefox and chrome help here | May 15 22:33 |
| schestowitz | my parents and friends can all play ogg | May 15 22:33 |
| schestowitz | I just tell them to use one of these two browsers | May 15 22:33 |
| the thing had firefox | May 15 22:33 | |
| following the instructions again failed | May 15 22:34 | |
| schestowitz | drag and drop to FF | May 15 22:35 |
| schestowitz | it's a media player | May 15 22:35 |
| schestowitz | with limited code support | May 15 22:35 |
| schestowitz | codec | May 15 22:35 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #WebUpd8: New !GNOME Shell Extensions That Provide A GNOME2-Like User Experience http://goo.gl/YkCZr | May 15 22:36 | |
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| I'm not going to fool with Windows outside of work again. If friends and family want computer help from me, they will get gnu/linux. | May 15 22:38 | |
| I'm not going to waste my time fighting Bill Gates' technical malice unless I'm paid. | May 15 22:39 | |
| Even then, I will tell my employer that the task is a fool's errand. | May 15 22:40 | |
| cubezzz | uh, maybe that last idea isn't too good :) | May 15 22:46 |
| cubezzz | make suggestions sure | May 15 22:49 |
| cubezzz | but you have to be somewhat diplomatic | May 15 22:49 |
| schestowitz | twitter: fair enough, others will fight this fight | May 15 22:54 |
| schestowitz | we all do the little we can | May 15 22:54 |
| I'm careful with my employers and do what they want. When they ask for my advice, I give it. | May 15 22:56 | |
| It's technical, practical and generally appreciated. | May 15 22:56 | |
| cubezzz | even with linux jobs, there are times they will ask you to sign NDA's | May 15 22:57 |
| I don't think I'll see one of those again. | May 15 22:57 | |
| cubezzz | porting... | May 15 22:58 |
| cubezzz | it happens sometimes | May 15 22:58 |
| A fortune 100 company got me to sign one once, I lined out the more obnoxious sections and they accepted that. | May 15 22:58 | |
| In my current work, it's more likely that I'd be encouraged to publish than keep technical secrets. | May 15 22:59 | |
| cubezzz | well of course there's the choice of signing or not | May 15 22:59 |
| cubezzz | but for personal use at least you can go FOSS | May 15 23:00 |
| You might be surprised at how flexible even big companies can be. They generally have boilerplate. | May 15 23:00 | |
| My point is that I'm not going to waste my time "supporting" Windows for friends and family. | May 15 23:00 | |
| cubezzz | even there I still use proprietary stuff when retrocomputing | May 15 23:00 |
| cubezzz | sure... | May 15 23:01 |
| cubezzz | we have mostly GNU+Linux machines here | May 15 23:01 |
| It is ultimately a waste of time because Microsoft owns Windows and will do with it what they want. | May 15 23:01 | |
| cubezzz | even Stallman used proprietary stuff a some point | May 15 23:02 |
| cubezzz | I do too when retrocomputing sometimes... | May 15 23:02 |
| cubezzz | and pretty well most people use closed source bios | May 15 23:03 |
| there's a big difference between using something for convenience and installing, which is a form of endorsement | May 15 23:03 | |
| bios is a big hairy issue. | May 15 23:03 | |
| cubezzz | amiga bios (they call it a kernal) is proprietary... there is a replacement though | May 15 23:04 |
| http://slashdot.org/~twitter/journal/183403 | May 15 23:04 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @alextootchie ZapLoc a location-based-services aggregator package http://goo.gl/yRVQw - talk http://goo.gl/GHuKG #N900 #Maemo @MasterZap | May 15 23:04 | |
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| cubezzz | I'll probably go tyan S2881 soon | May 15 23:05 |
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| cubezzz | watching what the FSF do helps a lot | May 15 23:06 |
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| fcassia | hi there. now we´re talking... :) | May 15 23:13 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] watching Fringe... | May 15 23:14 | |
| http://feeds.feedblitz.com/~/25898861/0/alternet~Israel-Opens-Fire-on-ProPalestinian-Protesters-Killing-More-Than-a-Dozen | May 15 23:15 | |
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| fcassia | Q: anyone knows if Microsft has people inside the amazon.com board? I remember reading that some former M$ exec had landed into AMZN some time ago... but can´t find the report | May 15 23:15 |
| fcassia | you know, a trojan, like they did with Nokia... | May 15 23:16 |
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| fcassia | some time ago= could be a few years | May 15 23:17 |
| !google site:techrights.org amazon microsoft entryism | May 15 23:18 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Conference - Society for Information Technology & Teacher Education | http://site.aace.org/conf/ | May 15 23:18 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Google Sites - Free websites and wikis | http://sites.google.com/ | May 15 23:18 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Site - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Site | May 15 23:18 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Site > Motivational Experiences | Business Results | http://www.siteglobal.com/ | May 15 23:18 |
| MinceR | like a disease, with spores spreading in all the directions | May 15 23:19 |
| !google "site:techrights.org amazon microsoft entryism" | May 15 23:19 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Conference - Society for Information Technology & Teacher Education | http://site.aace.org/conf/ | May 15 23:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Google Sites - Free websites and wikis | http://sites.google.com/ | May 15 23:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Site - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Site | May 15 23:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Site > Motivational Experiences | Business Results | http://www.siteglobal.com/ | May 15 23:19 |
| hmph | May 15 23:19 | |
| cubezzz | I like my idea of buyng computers that simply can't run windows :) | May 15 23:19 |
| some hits here, fcassia http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=site%3Atechrights.org+amazon+microsoft+entryism&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq= | May 15 23:21 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: site:techrights.org amazon microsoft entryism - Google Search .::. Size~: 80.07 KB | May 15 23:21 |
| http://techrights.org/2010/05/25/hp-dumping-vista-7-for-linux/ | May 15 23:22 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: GNU/Linux Versus Microsoft Entryism Challenges | Techrights .::. Size~: 116.15 KB | May 15 23:22 |
| there's more, just follow the links | May 15 23:23 | |
| fcassia | tahnks | May 15 23:25 |
| fcassia | thanks | May 15 23:25 |
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| fcassia | "As we explained earlier, Jeff surrounded himself by Microsoft employees who joined his management. Brian Valentine, formerly of Microsoft, is now an SVP at Amazon" <- are there more? | May 15 23:30 |
| fcassia | btw: what a great resource techrights is!! :) | May 15 23:32 |
| fcassia | just from a single post, the amount of links and collected quotes is mind-blowing | May 15 23:32 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Congress Votes to Keep Files on Pinochet Secret http://alturl.com/yfj93 | May 15 23:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] bad karma #fb | May 15 23:32 | |
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| fcassia | brb | May 15 23:38 |
| schestowitz | hi, fcassia | May 15 23:39 |
| schestowitz | how are you (when you're back)? [didn't notice you coming, was coding and writing a paper) | May 15 23:40 |
| schestowitz | [22:59] <twitter> In my current work, it's more likely that I'd be encouraged to publish than keep technical secrets. | May 15 23:41 |
| schestowitz | Same here. My employers are all FOSS. But I don't talk about it more than necessary. | May 15 23:41 |
| schestowitz | twitter: syntax like site:techrights.org does not work with the bot, never did | May 15 23:42 |
| schestowitz | !google techrights amazon microsoft entryism | May 15 23:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - GNU/Linux Versus Microsoft Entryism Challenges | Techrights | http://techrights.org/2010/05/25/hp-dumping-vista-7-for-linux/ | May 15 23:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Microsoft - Major Departure - Techrights | http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Microsoft_-_Major_Departure | May 15 23:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - 2011 February 11 | Techrights | http://techrights.org/2011/02/11/ | May 15 23:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - J Allard to leave Microsoft after his Courier Project was Thwarted ... | http://goodereader.com/blog/tablet-slates/j-allard-possibly-leaving-microsoft-due-to-the-cancelled-courier-project/ | May 15 23:43 |
| schestowitz | [23:30] <fcassia> "As we explained earlier, Jeff surrounded himself by Microsoft employees who joined his management. Brian Valentine, formerly of Microsoft, is now an SVP at Amazon" <- are there more? | May 15 23:43 |
| schestowitz | Yes, I lost count | May 15 23:43 |
| schestowitz | And I haven't been keeping track for many months now | May 15 23:44 |
| schestowitz | The Kindle head is from Microsoft | May 15 23:44 |
| schestowitz | And guess what? | May 15 23:45 |
| schestowitz | Months after he became its head Amazon signed a patent deal with Microsoft, agreeing to pay Ballmer for every Kindle sold because it uses Linux | May 15 23:45 |
| schestowitz | Amazon and Microsoft are based nearby, so no need to even change office/home | May 15 23:45 |
| fcassia | Here´s another one http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Security/Microsoft-Security-Guru-Leaves-for-Amazoncom/ | May 15 23:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Microsoft Security Guru Leaves for Amazon.com - Security - News & Reviews - eWeek.com .::. Size~: 114.54 KB | May 15 23:46 |
| fcassia | good point Roy | May 15 23:46 |
| schestowitz | Amazon: we offer Microsoft/Windows 'clouds', but also RHEL (Microsoft-taxed of course) to actually stay in business because Linux is how real work gets done | May 15 23:46 |
| schestowitz | fcassia: yes, I don't know how to search for it to make the complete list | May 15 23:47 |
| schestowitz | Unless you have a friend at Amazon's HR dept. | May 15 23:47 |
| schestowitz | Ballmer's minions have made Jeff's life funner.. with more patent lust as well | May 15 23:47 |
| fcassia | "former microsoft" amazon.com leads to dozens of books _about_ microsoft hosted on amazon.com :-/ | May 15 23:47 |
| fcassia | just have to fiddle until I find the right search string to hit jackpot | May 15 23:48 |
| schestowitz | !google amazon 1984 | May 15 23:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Amazon.com: 1984 (Signet Classics) (9780451524935): George Orwell ... | http://www.amazon.com/1984-Signet-Classics-George-Orwell/dp/0451524934 | May 15 23:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Amazon recalls (and embodies) Orwell's '1984' | Beyond Binary ... | http://news.cnet.com/8301-13860_3-10289983-56.html | May 15 23:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Media goes crazy over Amazon deleting '1984' from Kindle, but 99 ... | http://www.betanews.com/article/Media-goes-crazy-over-Amazon-deleting-1984-from-Kindle-but-99cent-ebook-was-illegal-copy/1247874134 | May 15 23:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Amazon settles 1984 suit, sets limits on Kindle deletions | http://arstechnica.com/web/news/2009/10/amazon-stipulates-terms-of-book-deletion-via-1984-settlement.ars | May 15 23:48 |
| schestowitz | This is *so* Microsoft | May 15 23:48 |
| fcassia | I have a lead for a nice news story :) | May 15 23:48 |
| schestowitz | fcassia: same in vmwaare | May 15 23:48 |
| schestowitz | CEO, COO, others. | May 15 23:48 |
| schestowitz | our client gets rid of vmware | May 15 23:49 |
| schestowitz | moved to kvm... thankfully | May 15 23:49 |
| fcassia | I LMAO at your pic of the sinking aircraft carrier with the caption "Ballmer stays" | May 15 23:49 |
| fcassia | :-P | May 15 23:49 |
| schestowitz | The only contact I even make with a windows machine is when I connect to some vsphere box in telehouse to handle vmware (maybe once a month) | May 15 23:50 |
| schestowitz | Essentially to open a remote Linux console as root | May 15 23:50 |
| schestowitz | fcassia: he did stay | May 15 23:50 |
| schestowitz | And they have no major hires | May 15 23:50 |
| schestowitz | Some companies like Google have them all the time | May 15 23:50 |
| fcassia | things arent so easy here. as I must test hardware, I must keep a windows system around | May 15 23:50 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft does not attract big names... | May 15 23:50 |
| schestowitz | Another one left last week | May 15 23:50 |
| schestowitz | Can't recall what he did | May 15 23:51 |
| schestowitz | One of them did in fact sink with a ship | May 15 23:51 |
| fcassia | but its XP on a netbook, and with seamonkey+OO.o | May 15 23:51 |
| schestowitz | !google grey microsoft boat | May 15 23:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] Dogs is stupid. Rose is trying to eat catnip and wondering why the cats are so excited about it... | May 15 23:51 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - -76% Discount | Air Force Hup Purchase Microsoft Office | Buy ... | http://oemkingsoft.com/store/ms-office/page-133.html | May 15 23:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - PowerPoint PPT Design Templates - success boat team teamwork ... | http://www.crystalgraphics.com/powerpoint/Templates.Search.Details.asp%3Fproduct%3Dteamwork_am_05 | May 15 23:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Grey Wolf: U-boat Crewman of World War II | Free eBooks Download ... | http://ebookee.org/Grey-Wolf-U-boat-Crewman-of-World-War-II_319712.html | May 15 23:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - RMBOA River Boat Related Calculators | http://www.rmboa.org.au/calculators.html | May 15 23:51 |
| schestowitz | !google gray dead microsoft boat | May 15 23:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Jim Gray (computer scientist) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Gray_(computer_scientist) | May 15 23:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Inside the High Tech Hunt for a Missing Silicon Valley Legend | http://www.wired.com/techbiz/people/magazine/15-08/ff_jimgray%3FcurrentPage%3Dall | May 15 23:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Microsoft researcher lost on trip to Farallons (Jim Gray) | http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1775896/posts | May 15 23:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Local News | Man dies, 4 rescued after boat capsizes off Camano ... | http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2014990781_drowning08m.html | May 15 23:51 |
| schestowitz | ""Linux is a cult" -Jim Gray Jim Gray | May 15 23:52 |
| schestowitz | Always makes me chuckle | May 15 23:52 |
| schestowitz | It's actually Microsoft that resembles a cult | May 15 23:52 |
| schestowitz | They are also small enough to be a cult | May 15 23:52 |
| schestowitz | Linux is massive, it's like continent | May 15 23:52 |
| schestowitz | Source for the quote is Comes vs Microsoft http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/px06394.pdf | May 15 23:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting application/pdf type | May 15 23:53 |
| schestowitz | Lots more in this PDF | May 15 23:54 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] is "water world" just another way of saying "incontinent continent"? #fb | May 15 23:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] I was wrong.... !PSN is apparently back up...high traffic for password resets apparently (though to be expected) Lets see if it holds. | May 15 23:54 | |
| MinceR | gn | May 15 23:55 |
| fcassia | just imagine if they mixed with scientology.... ;) | May 15 23:56 |
| fcassia | Vista7 cult, with guns. ;) | May 15 23:56 |
| MinceR | the clams have guns? | May 15 23:56 |
| ThistleWeb | Softology? | May 15 23:58 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Well I was only sort of wrong, !PSN store is still down apparently... | May 15 23:59 | |
| MinceR | Scientosoft | May 15 23:59 |
| MinceR | Micrology | May 15 23:59 |
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