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| schestowitz | Viper550: is it really their own fault\? | May 17 00:00 |
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| DaemonFC | Viper550, CentOS isn't a community, it's ISOs that are punted over a wall now and then | May 17 00:00 |
| schestowitz | It's just Microsoft ,marketing | May 17 00:00 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: you have n clue | May 17 00:00 |
| Viper550 | whose only "bugs" are "OMG THERE'S A RED HAT LOGO HERE, ERASE IT!" | May 17 00:00 |
| DaemonFC | Scientific Linux is MUCH better | May 17 00:00 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: did you ever run linux servers? | May 17 00:00 |
| *schestowitz connected to 5 servers at the moment | May 17 00:00 | |
| DaemonFC | no, but I use Scientific Linux | May 17 00:01 |
| schestowitz | voip, web, computatin, monitoring.. | May 17 00:01 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: now? | May 17 00:01 |
| Viper550 | I'm at least helping to make the next release more "presentable", looks-wise | May 17 00:01 |
| DaemonFC | it's basically the only thing you can get as far as a RHEL 6 clone | May 17 00:01 |
| DaemonFC | yes, other system | May 17 00:01 |
| schestowitz | other OS? | May 17 00:01 |
| Viper550 | CentOS 6 is turning into the Duke Nukem Forever of Linux distros | May 17 00:01 |
| DaemonFC | on my Intel box, I use SL | May 17 00:01 |
| schestowitz | http://www.bryen.com/opensuse-11-4-arrives-in-san-diego/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Bryen+%28Bryen%27s+Blog+and+Beyond%29 | May 17 00:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: openSUSE 11.4 Arrives in San Diego | Bryen's Blog and Beyond .::. Size~: 19.08 KB | May 17 00:01 |
| DaemonFC | it makes a pretty decent desktop | May 17 00:01 |
| DaemonFC | though not one of those one click idiot distros | May 17 00:02 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | May 17 00:02 |
| schestowitz | They made a green cake | May 17 00:02 |
| Viper550 | DaemonFC, though, one other thing, SL 6 even has a desktop CD like the Fedora ones (well, JUST like the Fedora ones, they used the same build scripts) | May 17 00:02 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] An army of ants attacked our territory and invaded the kitchen. We repulsed the first wave, but I'm affraid they will try the assault again. | May 17 00:03 | |
| schestowitz | http://azouhr.wordpress.com/2011/03/22/itunes-on-opensuse-11-4/ | May 17 00:03 |
| DaemonFC | I used the DVD installer | May 17 00:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: iTunes on openSUSE 11.4 | azouhr .::. Size~: 27.89 KB | May 17 00:03 |
| schestowitz | mono team must be excited | May 17 00:03 |
| *gnufreex has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | May 17 00:03 | |
| *Real-Rusty is now known as Real-Rusty|AFK | May 17 00:04 | |
| DaemonFC | The distributions that claim to be easy to use usually turn out to be unstable, trying to emulate the behavior of proprietary operating systems, and exploitative of the user | May 17 00:04 |
| DaemonFC | like Linspire and Ubuntu | May 17 00:04 |
| schestowitz | http://news.opensuse.org/2011/03/28/outage-of-buildapifeatures-opensuse-org/ | May 17 00:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: openSUSE News .::. Size~: 27.58 KB | May 17 00:05 |
| schestowitz | check out the picture | May 17 00:05 |
| schestowitz | smoked on coffee | May 17 00:05 |
| DaemonFC | Ubuntu is basically turning into something more like Linspire in every release | May 17 00:05 |
| Viper550 | 11.04 isn't that bad. Just rip out Unity and Mononuclaic Acid and put XFCE in, and you got a great desktop for a pair of laptops to run your silly BASIC Stamp IDE in Wine on | May 17 00:05 |
| schestowitz | Real-Rusty|AFK: nice new episode | May 17 00:05 |
| schestowitz | seen it today | May 17 00:05 |
| DaemonFC | Linspire was probably better though | May 17 00:05 |
| DaemonFC | at least they chose to use KDE | May 17 00:06 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 17 00:06 |
| Viper550 | and my aforementioned school web server: http://i.imgur.com/toERc.jpg | May 17 00:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting image/jpeg type | May 17 00:06 |
| schestowitz | win server? | May 17 00:07 |
| Viper550 | as much as you'd hate using MS protocols to connect to a Linux system, Xrdp is quite a useful service when you're in a area landlocked by Windows workstations needing to connect to a Linux client | May 17 00:07 |
| schestowitz | LOL | May 17 00:07 |
| schestowitz | Looks like a desktop | May 17 00:07 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft just doesn't get servers | May 17 00:07 |
| Viper550 | actually that's just a Scientific Linux minimal desktop running Apache+SQLite and the Habari CMS (and the OpenSolaris theme for good measure) | May 17 00:08 |
| schestowitz | Sometimes it thinks, hey, we'll remove the Aero thing, that's "Server" now | May 17 00:08 |
| schestowitz | And it still has just like media player running around | May 17 00:08 |
| schestowitz | Like an admin would log in remotely to watch pr0n on it | May 17 00:08 |
| Viper550 | minimal desktop on SL is pretty muich just Gnome base and Firefox | May 17 00:08 |
| DaemonFC | You could install Server Core | May 17 00:09 |
| DaemonFC | I guess they didn't RTFM | May 17 00:09 |
| DaemonFC | :P | May 17 00:10 |
| sebsebseb | Viper550: uhmm Ubuntu Classic Desktop in 11.04, they actsaully unmessed something up :) something that used to get at me as well quite a lot | May 17 00:10 |
| Viper550 | I actually installed just what I needed (and SELinux is easier to wrangle through in GUI mode) | May 17 00:10 |
| schestowitz | [root@techrights boycottn]# uname -a | May 17 00:10 |
| schestowitz | Linux techrights.org 2.6.18-194.8.1.el5xen #1 SMP Thu Jul 1 19:41:05 EDT 2010 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux | May 17 00:10 |
| schestowitz | [root@techrights boycottn]# ls /bin/ | grep gno | wc -l | May 17 00:10 |
| schestowitz | 0 | May 17 00:10 |
| DaemonFC | sebsebseb, I don't know why they're being so dishonest about "Use the Classic GNOME if you hate Unity" | May 17 00:11 |
| DaemonFC | sure it works now | May 17 00:11 |
| DaemonFC | not after October | May 17 00:11 |
| schestowitz | http://sysbytes.wordpress.com/2011/04/01/stfu-indian-media/ | May 17 00:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: STFU Indian Media « Sysbyte Technologies .::. Size~: 34.38 KB | May 17 00:11 |
| schestowitz | unity=brillliant name | May 17 00:12 |
| Viper550 | don't worry, there's a respin being worked on with Gnome 3 | May 17 00:12 |
| schestowitz | You can't say you "hate unity" without riaising some brows" | May 17 00:12 |
| schestowitz | "Unity sucks!" | May 17 00:12 |
| sebsebseb | Viper550: Gnome 2 you mean? | May 17 00:12 |
| Viper550 | no, Gnome 3. | May 17 00:12 |
| schestowitz | "We must find a final solution to UNITY!" | May 17 00:12 |
| schestowitz | let's make a package called peace | May 17 00:12 |
| schestowitz | Heh | May 17 00:13 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Hunting ants at 1 AM is no fun... :( | May 17 00:13 | |
| schestowitz | Let's rename our site "Godrights.org" | May 17 00:13 |
| schestowitz | "Don't insult the site. You're insulting MY FAITH AND RELIGIOUS, you insensitive clot!" | May 17 00:13 |
| schestowitz | *Religion | May 17 00:13 |
| Viper550 | and for some reason, the SL6 window border looks like a mod of Sonar | May 17 00:14 |
| DaemonFC | it's insensitive clod you insensitive clod | May 17 00:14 |
| sebsebseb | Viper550: Scientific Linux 6? | May 17 00:14 |
| DaemonFC | -God of correcting people | May 17 00:14 |
| Viper550 | yeah | May 17 00:14 |
| Viper550 | or EL6 if you wanna be general | May 17 00:14 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: listening to the Brandon Fedora 15 interview | May 17 00:14 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: anyway Mageia 1 release candidate this Wednesday :) | May 17 00:15 |
| schestowitz | http://boltonlinux.blogspot.com/2011/04/26-sales-gnome-3-lets-party.html | May 17 00:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Bolton Linux: 26 Sales, Gnome 3, Lets Party!! .::. Size~: 52.82 KB | May 17 00:15 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: yeah | May 17 00:15 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: with unity ;-)? | May 17 00:16 |
| schestowitz | Because everyone likes unity | May 17 00:16 |
| sebsebseb | be sorted out with a microphone, and yeah maybe i'll talk on there before June 1st, depends on when get this microphone sorted out, so yeah either go shopping for real, or get online | May 17 00:16 |
| schestowitz | Not the binary, the term | May 17 00:16 |
| Viper550 | http://www.techotopia.com/images/f/fc/Rhel6_vncviewer_session.jpg looks like this | May 17 00:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting image/jpeg type | May 17 00:16 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: ok, good | May 17 00:16 |
| schestowitz | Viper550: is that gnote? | May 17 00:17 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: I kind of like the idea of before June 1st, because around June 1st, I want to start building up my UK community again, and the Swedish a bit, and such | May 17 00:17 |
| Viper550 | uhh? | May 17 00:17 |
| Viper550 | it was labeled as "Slider" | May 17 00:17 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: Sweden=pirtae Bay!! :-) | May 17 00:17 |
| sebsebseb | well yeah June 1st is when things should get more interesting again, more people should come to the IRC channels and so on :D | May 17 00:17 |
| schestowitz | In the Americans' mind | May 17 00:17 |
| schestowitz | Viper550: in the tray? | May 17 00:18 |
| Viper550 | looks like it. it's based off stuff froum around Fedora 12 apparently | May 17 00:18 |
| Viper550 | (and yes, its got Plymouth) | May 17 00:18 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: but first we cover the gnu version of monad, it's called gonad and it's quite barbaric. Even Ryan's mom has got it going bone. | May 17 00:19 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: hmm PC World, The Mall, quite a few shops I could get a microphone from really, don't think there's anything local though unless the supermarkets sell them | May 17 00:19 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: gnu version of monad ??? | May 17 00:19 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: Maplin maybe | May 17 00:19 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: jok | May 17 00:19 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC joke | May 17 00:19 |
| schestowitz | he pretends he broke gonad's ARM | May 17 00:20 |
| sebsebseb | Maplin yeah there's one in the city, a bit outside the centre or whatever | May 17 00:20 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: well this Brandon talk isn't that much about Fedora realy | May 17 00:20 |
| schestowitz | Not really | May 17 00:20 |
| Viper550 | http://i.imgur.com/OPKha.png is what I'm working on for SL 6.1 | May 17 00:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting image/png type | May 17 00:21 |
| schestowitz | He didn't give detailed answers either | May 17 00:21 |
| schestowitz | Viper550: SilverLie? | May 17 00:21 |
| Viper550 | uhh? what | May 17 00:21 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: ,but when I go on, yep talk generally about distro's and such, distro's I been running and when, maybe even about how I got into Techrights IRC channel and why I decided to stay, and well you know, but I like the idea of Tim interviewing me as well | May 17 00:21 |
| Viper550 | thought red hat effectively banned it | May 17 00:21 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: no Gordon or anyone like that, just you and TIm | May 17 00:21 |
| schestowitz | Viper550: Microsoft calls SilverLie "SL" | May 17 00:22 |
| Viper550 | scientific linux | May 17 00:22 |
| sebsebseb | and I probably just high lighted you a bit really but oh well :d | May 17 00:22 |
| sebsebseb | a bit to much, above | May 17 00:22 |
| schestowitz | Viper550: yes, which is why I asked about the notepad icon in yellow | May 17 00:22 |
| schestowitz | tomboy/mono | May 17 00:23 |
| sebsebseb | Viper550: yep Scientif Linux is apparnaetly pretty good, and CentOS is uhmm some issues or whatever, so many people using that it seems, going by what one person has told me on IRC | May 17 00:23 |
| Viper550 | yeah. I'm just trying to make its artwork look less slapdash | May 17 00:23 |
| schestowitz | Good for CERN/Fermilab.. | May 17 00:23 |
| schestowitz | splashtop.... | May 17 00:23 |
| schestowitz | What ever happened with it? | May 17 00:23 |
| schestowitz | Does it still ship with many mobos/ | May 17 00:24 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, It's kind of sad when you have to get an installed user base by trojaning your products tentacles into your competitors products using plug-ins that the user never asked for, making sure that they don't know you did it lest they would remove them (Most Microsoft products lately do this to Firefox and Chrome) | May 17 00:24 |
| GoForbes28 | hi again | May 17 00:24 |
| schestowitz | M0ono team blogs, bangers. http://jeffreystedfast.blogspot.com/2011/04/low-fat-turkey-sausage-recipe.html | May 17 00:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: A Moment of Zen: Low-Fat Turkey Sausage Recipe .::. Size~: 66.79 KB | May 17 00:24 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: they add a removal :-) | May 17 00:25 |
| schestowitz | They add an anti-virus feature to remove the WebM 'malware' | May 17 00:25 |
| GoForbes28 | schestowitz: really? | May 17 00:25 |
| GoForbes28 | joke? | May 17 00:25 |
| schestowitz | !google internet explorer webm microsoft removes | May 17 00:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Overview of Web Folders in Internet Explorer 5 | http://support.microsoft.com/kb/195851 | May 17 00:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Internet Explorer Enhanced Security Configuration changes the ... | http://support.microsoft.com/kb/815141 | May 17 00:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Some Web sites may not behave as expected in Internet Explorer | http://support.microsoft.com/kb/956197 | May 17 00:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Internet Explorer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Explorer | May 17 00:25 |
| schestowitz | !google internet explorer satan | May 17 00:26 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Twitter / RAINBOW SATAN: HULU. INTERNET EXPLORER AD ... | http://twitter.com/TPHD/status/17476799955 | May 17 00:26 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Encyclopaedia Metallum: The Metal Archives - Satan | http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Satan/774 | May 17 00:26 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - The Devil & Bill Gates Talk | http://www.stokely.com/lighter.side/devil.n.bill.html | May 17 00:26 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Sun Sea & Satan WATCH TRAILER Haut de la Garenne, Jersey | http://therealnews.com/t2/interact/jomsocial/videos/27-Sun%2BSea%2BSatan%2BWATCH%2BTRAILER%2BHaut%2Bde%2Bla%2BGarenne,%2BJersey%3Fuserid%3D15715 | May 17 00:26 |
| GoForbes28 | we're not having luck with google today it seems | May 17 00:26 |
| DaemonFC | [3] - Some Web sites may not behave as expected in Internet Explorer | May 17 00:26 |
| DaemonFC | heh | May 17 00:26 |
| DaemonFC | they're honest? | May 17 00:26 |
| schestowitz | !google "internet exploder" | May 17 00:26 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Why IE Sucks | http://whyiesucks.blogspot.com/ | May 17 00:26 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Internet Explorer - Microsoft Windows | http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/internet-explorer/products/ie/home | May 17 00:26 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Internet Exploder | http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/I/Internet-Exploder.html | May 17 00:26 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - No Internet Exploder! | http://www.zer0.org/~gsutter/no-msie/ | May 17 00:26 |
| GoForbes28 | http://crashie.com | May 17 00:26 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Crash Internet Explorer just by visiting this page! .::. Size~: 4.61 KB | May 17 00:26 |
| Viper550 | they switched to Bing too | May 17 00:27 |
| schestowitz | !google webbink groklaw | May 17 00:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - As of Today, It's Mark Webbink's Groklaw 2.0 - Groklaw | http://www.groklaw.net/article.php%3Fstory%3D20110515173831922 | May 17 00:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Linux Today - As of Today, It's Mark Webbink's Groklaw 2.0 | http://www.linuxtoday.com/it_management/2011051600941NWLL | May 17 00:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Law - WSJ.com: As of Today, It's Mark Webbink's Groklaw 2.0 | http://onespot.wsj.com/law/2011/05/16/9080d/as-of-today-its-mark-webbinks-groklaw-20 | May 17 00:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - As of Today, It's Mark Webbink's Groklaw 2.0 | http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2720492/posts | May 17 00:27 |
| GoForbes28 | !google toastytech internet explorer | May 17 00:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Internet Explorer is EVIL! | http://toastytech.com/evil/ | May 17 00:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - New Internet Explorer Errors | http://toastytech.com/evil/ieerrors.html | May 17 00:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Nathan's Toasty Technology Page | http://toastytech.com/ | May 17 00:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Anti-IE Buttons | http://toastytech.com/evil/buttons.html | May 17 00:27 |
| schestowitz | Viper550: who did? | May 17 00:27 |
| Viper550 | http://support-os.splashtop.com/entries/312174-getting-started-with-splashtop-os | May 17 00:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Getting Started with Splashtop OS : Splashtop OS - Support .::. Size~: 22.21 KB | May 17 00:27 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: hmm seems like Brandon didn't know about quite a lot of stuff you were asking about in the interview :D still listening to it | May 17 00:27 |
| schestowitz | LOL http://onespot.wsj.com/law/2011/05/16/9080d/as-of-today-its-mark-webbinks-groklaw-20 | May 17 00:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Law - WSJ.com: As of Today, It's Mark Webbink's Groklaw 2.… .::. Size~: 13.08 KB | May 17 00:27 |
| schestowitz | Murdoch complaints about 'stealing' his RSS | May 17 00:28 |
| schestowitz | And watch him do this to others | May 17 00:28 |
| schestowitz | What a joke of a person | May 17 00:28 |
| GoForbes28 | Hey Roy | May 17 00:28 |
| GoForbes28 | I stole your RSS | May 17 00:28 |
| GoForbes28 | WTF does that even mean? | May 17 00:28 |
| schestowitz | Viper550: meh | May 17 00:28 |
| schestowitz | GoForbes28: I can't access mine | May 17 00:29 |
| DaemonFC | !google toastytech gui gallery windows vista | May 17 00:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Windows | http://toastytech.com/guis/indexwindows.html | May 17 00:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Windows Vista (NT 6.0) | http://toastytech.com/guis/winvista.html | May 17 00:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Graphical User Interface Timeline | http://toastytech.com/guis/guitimeline4.html | May 17 00:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Windows Oddities: 25 Years of Microsoft Weirdness | PCWorld | http://www.pcworld.com/article/211385/windows_oddities_25_years_of_microsoft_weirdness.html | May 17 00:29 |
| schestowitz | You took a copy and destoryed my copy | May 17 00:29 |
| GoForbes28 | Viper550: Splashtop is a joke anyway | May 17 00:29 |
| schestowitz | http://lizards.opensuse.org/2011/04/06/versionitis/ | May 17 00:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: openSUSE Lizards .::. Size~: 64.71 KB | May 17 00:30 |
| schestowitz | Splashtop sounds like a type of bathing suit | May 17 00:30 |
| GoForbes28 | it does | May 17 00:30 |
| GoForbes28 | they use the IE icon to represent the internet | May 17 00:31 |
| schestowitz | could be worse | May 17 00:31 |
| schestowitz | !google linpus | May 17 00:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Linpus Technologies | The leader and pioneer in the field of open ... | http://www.linpus.com/ | May 17 00:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Linpus Download | http://www.linpus.com/downloads.html | May 17 00:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Linpus Linux - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linpus_Linux | May 17 00:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - DistroWatch.com: Linpus Linux | http://distrowatch.com/linpus | May 17 00:31 |
| schestowitz | "Linpus Linux is a commercial, Fedora-based distribution developed by Linpus Technologies, a Linux company with headquarters in Taipei, Taiwan and a development office in Shanghai, China. The product's main features are support for both traditional and simplified Chinese, LSB 2.0 certification, support for Unicode character sets, friendly KDE desktop, and compatibility with a wide range of computer hardware." | May 17 00:31 |
| schestowitz | I thought they renamed to Linplus | May 17 00:31 |
| GoForbes28 | lol | May 17 00:33 |
| GoForbes28 | that would have made such a difference | May 17 00:33 |
| schestowitz | Mono boosters develop with real p/ls and pointers? http://jeffreystedfast.blogspot.com/2011/04/optimizing-merge-sort.html | May 17 00:33 |
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| GoForbes28 | Where did you get the Murdoch RSS "stealing" article? | May 17 00:33 |
| schestowitz | "She asked me to fsck her hard-drive, instead I downloaded and mounted Linpus" | May 17 00:34 |
| schestowitz | GoForbes28: old news | May 17 00:34 |
| schestowitz | !google techdirt murdoch rss steal | May 17 00:34 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - A Look At All The Sites Owned By Rupert Murdoch That 'Steal ... | http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20091111/0049546883.shtml | May 17 00:34 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - And I Thought Rupert Murdoch Thought Copying Stories From Other ... | http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110313/23194213477/i-thought-rupert-murdoch-thought-copying-stories-other-publications-was-stealing.shtml | May 17 00:34 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Fox News Sued For Copyright Infringement - Techdirt | http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100108/1446417680.shtml | May 17 00:34 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Murdoch's NY Post Continues To Source Articles From Bloggers With ... | http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100305/1140348440.shtml | May 17 00:34 |
| GoForbes28 | oh | May 17 00:35 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @fabsh My response to OMG Ubuntu: Let's help the people that are helping us instead of worrying about Adobe! http://outl.ws/10 !fedor ... | May 17 00:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] An army of ants attacked our territory and invaded the kitchen. We repulsed the first wave, but I'm afraid they will try the assault again. | May 17 00:36 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Adobe Has No Plans to Offer Creative Suite on Linux .::. Size~: 28.64 KB | May 17 00:36 |
| GoForbes28 | OMG! Adobe, not in my Linux? How can I adapt? | May 17 00:37 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @jonobacon are you part of that 'some'? Yes or no? Do you subscribe the view that proprietary software that is popular should be ported? Y/N | May 17 00:38 | |
| DaemonFC | I don't see why anyone cares | May 17 00:40 |
| DaemonFC | it runs fine in Crossover | May 17 00:40 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #ScottishGas are spammers too, despite explicitly stating NOT to use my email for sales emails, I got one tonight #spammers | May 17 00:41 | |
| GoForbes28 | [/sarcasm] | May 17 00:42 |
| GoForbes28 | I can live without those adobe products | May 17 00:46 |
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| sebsebseb | schestowitz: I assume you already know that he has started his own company for Mono, but anyway: http://identi.ca/conversation/71248296 | May 17 00:50 |
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| walterbyrd | UnXis, Inc Claims to Own The UNIX and UnixWare Trademarks " APPLICANT’S REPLY IN SUPPORT OF HIS COMBINED MOTION AND BRIEF TO RESUME OPPOSITION PROCEEDING AND RESET AND EXTEND THE SCHEDULE" http://ttabvue.uspto.gov/ttabvue/v?pno=91122524&pty=OPP&eno=95 "UnXis, Inc. ('UnXis') SCO's successor, now states it, not X/Open, lawfully owns the UNIX and UnixWare trademarks. SCO just completed the bankruptcy sale of its UNIX and U | May 17 00:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: USPTO TTABVUE. Proceeding Number 91122524 .::. Size~: 0.42 KB | May 17 00:50 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Did another US agency lie to the court in a FOIA case? https://eff.org/r.56e | May 17 00:54 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Another Agency May Have Lied to Court in a FOIA Case | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 25.69 KB | May 17 00:54 |
| GoForbes28 | yep sebsebseb | May 17 00:57 |
| GoForbes28 | we also know that the site is operating out of Bellevue, WA | May 17 00:57 |
| GoForbes28 | sadly | May 17 00:57 |
| GoForbes28 | but unsurprisingly | May 17 00:57 |
| sebsebseb | GoForbes28: Beeleuve WA? what about it? | May 17 00:59 |
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| cubezzz | evidently there are derivatives of opensolaris | May 17 00:59 |
| cubezzz | anyone know of one offhand? | May 17 00:59 |
| sebsebseb | also what's WA anyway, yes it's a US state, but uhmm don't expect non Americans to know the names of all your states and all the short names for them either | May 17 00:59 |
| cubezzz | ah, there's tons | May 17 01:00 |
| GoForbes28 | !google Bellevue Washington Intellectual Ventures | May 17 01:00 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Intellectual Ventures Home | http://www.intellectualventures.com/ | May 17 01:00 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Contact Us - Intellectual Ventures | http://www.intellectualventures.com/ContactUs.aspx | May 17 01:00 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Intellectual Ventures Jobs, Employment in Bellevue, WA | Indeed.com | http://www.indeed.com/q-Intellectual-Ventures-l-Bellevue,-WA-jobs.html | May 17 01:00 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Intellectual Ventures Jobs in Bellevue, WA - BusinessWeek | http://jobs.businessweek.com/a/all-jobs/list/q-intellectual%2Bventures/l-bellevue,%2Bwa | May 17 01:00 |
| cubezzz | StormOS looks interesting | May 17 01:00 |
| GoForbes28 | sebsebseb: tada! | May 17 01:00 |
| sebsebseb | TechrightsBot-tr: google stormos | May 17 01:00 |
| sebsebseb | TechrightsBot-tr: !google stormos | May 17 01:01 |
| sebsebseb | stupid bot | May 17 01:01 |
| GoForbes28 | brb | May 17 01:01 |
| cubezzz | http://www.stormos.org | May 17 01:01 |
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| GoForbes28 | !google stormos | May 17 01:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - StormOS | http://www.stormos.org/ | May 17 01:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Downloads | StormOS | http://www.stormos.org/node/59 | May 17 01:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - About StormOS | StormOS | http://www.stormos.org/node/4 | May 17 01:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Storm OS Discussion - BlackBerry Forums at CrackBerry.com | http://forums.crackberry.com/f132/ | May 17 01:01 |
| Viper550 | stormos seems like a re-brand | May 17 01:01 |
| GoForbes28 | sebsebseb: You don't need to put "TechrightsBot-tr:" at the front | May 17 01:01 |
| GoForbes28 | brb | May 17 01:01 |
| sebsebseb | cubezzz: I think I might have read before about StormOS not sure quite though | May 17 01:02 |
| sebsebseb | GoForbes28: schestowitz cubezzz Hmm http://identi.ca/notice/73646528 ( and he's in the channel right now ) | May 17 01:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Jono Bacon (jonobacon)'s status on Monday, 16-May-11 21:31:55 UTC - Identi.ca: Congratulations to @migueldeicaza on the creation of Xamarin - http://www.xamarin.com/ | May 17 01:05 |
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| schestowitz | I've allocated a whole desktop to ssh recently | May 17 01:08 |
| schestowitz | desktop 10 | May 17 01:08 |
| schestowitz | desktop 10 just had many connections to problematic servers that get angry quite often and need quick access. | May 17 01:09 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] This Week in Internet Censorship: Here's what's happening in Tunisia, Turkey, and Pakistan https://eff.org/r.56k | May 17 01:16 | |
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| ThistleWeb | sebsebseb: and this surprises you how exactly? | May 17 01:18 |
| ThistleWeb | jono has made it clear over and over again he doesn't share the same views on miguel or mono as most in here | May 17 01:19 |
| sebsebseb | ThistleWeb: not so much suprise | May 17 01:20 |
| sebsebseb | ThistleWeb: just another example of jono trying to be open minded about things, it seems, which is good really | May 17 01:21 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] I am !listening to !TechBytes Episode 45 about #Microsoft #Skype and other things! http://techrights.org/2011/05/15/techbytes-episode-45/ | May 17 01:21 | |
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| schestowitz | sebsebseb: a colleague of mine listens now too. I told her about it. | May 17 01:22 |
| schestowitz | same episode | May 17 01:22 |
| sebsebseb | she's listening to it right now and 45? | May 17 01:22 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: I thought I would add a link in, because I sent that to the !listening group as well, and people are lazy, when it comes to Google'ing things, or going to another group on identica and then from there on to things :D | May 17 01:23 |
| schestowitz | http://osdir.com/Article10806.phtml | May 17 01:24 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] blogged... Oh !Canada " Free Byron !" It's his 329th day in custody... http://ur1.ca/473s9 !cdnpoli #G20 #G20report !freebyron #BAIL | May 17 01:28 | |
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| sebsebseb | schestowitz: only thing with songs in another langauge ilke in that episode, well we won't just know what they are saying, but Spannish and so on songs, tend to sound nice I find, when not knowing what they are saying | May 17 01:32 |
| ThistleWeb | you think everyone who listens only speaks english? | May 17 01:33 |
| sebsebseb | ThistleWeb: no | May 17 01:33 |
| ThistleWeb | music transcends language | May 17 01:33 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: yes, I like those songs | May 17 01:34 |
| schestowitz | Ep. 46 had good tracks IMHO | May 17 01:34 |
| schestowitz | better than 45 | May 17 01:34 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] "The Quiet Revolution in Open Learning," via Chronicle.com http://goo.gl/vQbBq | May 17 01:34 | |
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| ThistleWeb | I gotta say, the tunes on the last few eps are rather good, better that sore throat screaming death metal | May 17 01:35 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: uhmm I looked episdoe 46 is just over an hour, so quite a lot of music in that as well then? good | May 17 01:35 |
| sebsebseb | well death metal and such can be alright to have in the show, and I quite like metal really, but I also like other types of music, and it's nice to have differnet things in the show | May 17 01:36 |
| schestowitz | ThistleWeb: thanks :-) | May 17 01:36 |
| ThistleWeb | eclectic is good | May 17 01:36 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: inc. one I listened to all day today (Iguana) | May 17 01:37 |
| sebsebseb | I want to listen to more open music, but well, well yeah can get onto stuff from the Jamendo group on Identica for a start, but I don't have any torrents yet with open music for example | May 17 01:37 |
| ThistleWeb | when I listen back I always skip passed the metal tunes | May 17 01:37 |
| ThistleWeb | the rest are at least worth a shot | May 17 01:38 |
| sebsebseb | Why don't you like metal by the way? | May 17 01:38 |
| ThistleWeb | I just don't | May 17 01:38 |
| ThistleWeb | I don't see any musicianship in it | May 17 01:38 |
| sebsebseb | having music in TechBytes is one thing that I like about it, listen to music I haven't heard before :) and useauly music that I quite like as well | May 17 01:39 |
| sebsebseb | what you mean, you don't see any musicianship in it? | May 17 01:39 |
| ThistleWeb | I mean I play the guitar, metal is just noise to me | May 17 01:39 |
| sebsebseb | oh ok | May 17 01:39 |
| schestowitz | ThistleWeb: same here | May 17 01:40 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: oh you play the guitar? | May 17 01:40 |
| schestowitz | no | May 17 01:40 |
| schestowitz | the metal stuff doesn't appeal to me | May 17 01:40 |
| schestowitz | jono's is OK | May 17 01:40 |
| schestowitz | Some of his are softer | May 17 01:40 |
| sebsebseb | still havent' bothered downloading Jono 's music properly and listen to that, even though I ilke metal, hmm | May 17 01:41 |
| schestowitz | some metal I quite like, if there's something melodic somewhere | May 17 01:41 |
| ThistleWeb | don't like jono's music either for the same reasons, but wish him well with it | May 17 01:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] !heybuddy would be nothing without input from it's uncle @nybill | May 17 01:41 | |
| sebsebseb | I think metal is probably mainly quite popular with younger people, teenagers and early 20's, but eh what do I know? | May 17 01:42 |
| ThistleWeb | there's as much musicianship in death metal as dance music to me, even if they play real instruments | May 17 01:42 |
| ThistleWeb | the effect is the same, headache inducer | May 17 01:42 |
| schestowitz | This one is good, but not metal http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithium_%28Nirvana_song%29 | May 17 01:42 |
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| sebsebseb | yeah dance music, I don't tend to like that much | May 17 01:42 |
| ThistleWeb | I like heavy stuff, just stuff with some musicianship to it | May 17 01:42 |
| sebsebseb | also sometimes can dance on own a bit :D to rock or metal even, depending on what it is | May 17 01:43 |
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| ThistleWeb | sebsebseb: check out radiohead on youtube, tunes called Just, and The Bends if you want examples | May 17 01:43 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkcJEvMcnEg | May 17 01:43 |
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| sebsebseb | yeah I know about Radiohead and Nirvana | May 17 01:44 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: yep thats a good song, and smell's like teen spirt | May 17 01:44 |
| ThistleWeb | steve vai's the audience is listening | May 17 01:44 |
| ThistleWeb | or a lot of Extreme stuff, like midnite express | May 17 01:44 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] U.S. Environmental Protection Agency joined W3C - U.S. Environmental Protection Agency joined as a new W3C Member. http://ow.ly/1cHvUj | May 17 01:44 | |
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| sebsebseb | if your not in the episode do you still listen, so episode 45 for example? | May 17 01:45 |
| ThistleWeb | I have radiohead almost on perma-repeat on my mp3 player for a while now | May 17 01:46 |
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| ThistleWeb | yep | May 17 01:46 |
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| schestowitz | they're good | May 17 01:46 |
| sebsebseb | ThistleWeb: schestowitz Oh yeah now I remember, latest Click recommended some sort of security audio cast, with the guy who came up with the name Spyware, I was thinking something like, that's probably very Windows orientated (I think that's the word) | May 17 01:47 |
| ThistleWeb | I love the early radiohead, the guitar stuff, these fellas can rawk out with the best of them | May 17 01:47 |
| sebsebseb | blah de blah, this is an anti virus you can get, blah de blah | May 17 01:47 |
| sebsebseb | and yeah I think it was the guy who came up with the name Spyware doing it, may be worth a listen though at least once for a laugh or something, assuming that it will be aimed at people who are pretty ignorant at computer security. | May 17 01:48 |
| schestowitz | http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2011/05/16/why-unity-made-me-fall-out-of-love-with-ubuntu/ | May 17 01:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Why Unity made me fall out of love with Ubuntu | PC Pro blog .::. Size~: 50.18 KB | May 17 01:49 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: oh from pcpro well that's interesting then, because they had their Ubuntu day | May 17 01:49 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: oriented? | May 17 01:49 |
| schestowitz | ThistleWeb: took me while to 'discover' them | May 17 01:49 |
| sebsebseb | yeah I mean, as in aimed at WIndows users | May 17 01:49 |
| sebsebseb | mainly at them | May 17 01:49 |
| schestowitz | Knew about them since I was a kid, but didn't care until I heard Nom Surprises | May 17 01:49 |
| schestowitz | *No | May 17 01:49 |
| ThistleWeb | radiohead are an aqquired taste, I'd heard stuff from the bends, and pablo honey at lots of house parties, but never found out who it was | May 17 01:50 |
| ThistleWeb | until Paranoid Android, and OK Computer, then all the other parts slotted into place as "oh, this is all that same band, yeah I like them" | May 17 01:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Really pleased to see Mark Webbink helm Groklaw! http://lxnews.org/2011/05/16/ex-red-hat-counsel-continues-groklaw/ | May 17 01:51 | |
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| ThistleWeb | took quite a few listens to "get" radiohead, for ages I thought "great band, need a different singer" | May 17 01:51 |
| ThistleWeb | I eventually absorbed the radiohead experience | May 17 01:52 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: just started reading that, they say it's not the Ubuntu they hoped it would become, uhmm well it hasn't been mine really since 9.04 was in development, but just little things for 9.04 and 9.10, then the big ah for 10.04 and so on from there, and I have typed this kind of thing loads of times on IRC. However saying that I am still going to run Ubuntu 11.04 Classic Desktop as my desktop envrionment for quite a while for various | May 17 01:52 |
| sebsebseb | reasons, including how they unmessed something up :) something that got at me a lot when it got messed up with 10.04 | May 17 01:52 |
| ThistleWeb | what stunned me, is that UK bands find it notoriously difficult to crack the US, only the Beatles managed it before......until Radiohead | May 17 01:52 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5CVsCnxyXg | May 17 01:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: YouTube - Radiohead - No Surprises .::. Size~: 138.9 KB | May 17 01:53 |
| schestowitz | radiohead experience | May 17 01:53 |
| schestowitz | Mac experience? | May 17 01:53 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: and I can work around by not using things I don't like in Ubuntu or pretty much ignore them. For me I ran Gnome 2 in Ubuntu for years, so uhmmm this last release of Gnome 2 even though it also has their changes, but something that really got at me when they introduced the changes fixed. well it means this last version is kind of special, espesailly since I am running it with the old brown theme :D | May 17 01:54 |
| schestowitz | ThistleWeb: and Canada | May 17 01:54 |
| sebsebseb | altough that hasn't canged the icons, just the bar in Gnome, but yeah | May 17 01:54 |
| ThistleWeb | yeah I've been visitng a few radiohead vids on youtube a lot, one of them is no surprises | May 17 01:54 |
| schestowitz | My girlfriend's sister from Canada likes Radiohead A LOT | May 17 01:54 |
| schestowitz | But they don't play it there | May 17 01:54 |
| schestowitz | The US MAFIAA keeps their own labels afloat | May 17 01:54 |
| ThistleWeb | did you see paranoid android from jools holland? | May 17 01:54 |
| schestowitz | They have little to gain by putting foreign music on their MTV and stuff | May 17 01:54 |
| schestowitz | ThistleWeb: weird one | May 17 01:55 |
| schestowitz | The cartoon? | May 17 01:55 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPLEbAVjiLA | May 17 01:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: YouTube - Radiohead - Paranoid Android .::. Size~: 19.2 KB | May 17 01:56 |
| schestowitz | eDpressing | May 17 01:56 |
| schestowitz | It used to be on MTV when I was about 15 | May 17 01:56 |
| schestowitz | Android is paranoid.. because of Ballmer's astroturfers | May 17 01:56 |
| ThistleWeb | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_mMzOQpe0I | May 17 01:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: YouTube - Radiohead - Paranoid Android (on Jools Holland, 1997) .::. Size~: 117.04 KB | May 17 01:56 |
| ThistleWeb | think that's the one | May 17 01:57 |
| schestowitz | everything is seen as an astroturfer | May 17 01:57 |
| ThistleWeb | later with jools holland, live | May 17 01:57 |
| ThistleWeb | blistering performance | May 17 01:57 |
| ThistleWeb | the cartoon is the music promo vid | May 17 01:57 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: hmm that blog post is a load babble really most of it, altough yeah they have a point Canonical haven't really been doing anything properly inovative when it comes to the desktop | May 17 01:58 |
| *ThistleWeb saw that live at a party when it was broadcast | May 17 01:59 | |
| sebsebseb | and they basically said that they hired professioanl designers, but we didn't really end up with anything that great a dock down the left and such, well indeed at that realy | May 17 01:59 |
| ThistleWeb | the guitar work by radiohead is phenomenal | May 17 02:00 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: however on the other hand this is a good thing, after all Unity is having Copyright Assignment, other distro's many of them, won't be that keen on providing it even as a an option I guess, and other distro developers most of them are unlikely to contribute code to it, because of the CA, and so on. Plus Gnome is the real upstream :) | May 17 02:00 |
| schestowitz | There were doing a show here when a neighbour of mine at the time kept the ticket like it was memorabilia | May 17 02:00 |
| sebsebseb | Unity has to be rather popular, before most other Desktop Linux distro's provide it as an option it seems. | May 17 02:01 |
| schestowitz | ThistleWeb: has coldplay vanished? | May 17 02:01 |
| ThistleWeb | no idea | May 17 02:01 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: find out why | May 17 02:01 |
| schestowitz | maybe for tablets | May 17 02:01 |
| ThistleWeb | burned out with the pressure to compete with radiohead maybe | May 17 02:01 |
| sebsebseb | plus right now there are technical issues when it comes to others providing it, or at least Fedora and OpenSuse and so on, but I did read about one of the Ubuntu based distros having it, but right yeah, well that's based on Ubuntu, so that shoudn't be much of a problem | May 17 02:02 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yZBE5qLw8Y | May 17 02:02 |
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| ThistleWeb | I love thom yorke's complete disdain for the media, all he wants to do is play | May 17 02:02 |
| ThistleWeb | saw him one night by chance on jonathon ross, had to do the interview, didn't wanna be there at all......as soon as ross said "right go get rea-" he was up and over the sofa to get to his playground, the stage | May 17 02:03 |
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| msb_ | I DL'ed the 32bit Jitsi (sip-communicator) rpm. zypper said it was malformed and wouldn't load it. I DL'ed the source and made it with ANT. Failed -- 16 errors. | May 17 02:06 |
| GoForbes28 | !google rush | May 17 02:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Rush | HOME | http://www.rush.com/ | May 17 02:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Rush Limbaugh | http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/ | May 17 02:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Rush (band) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rush_(band) | May 17 02:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Power Windows...A Tribute To RUSH | http://www.2112.net/powerwindows/ | May 17 02:06 |
| ThistleWeb | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0Lhiypu1Vg << fancy a catchy little chilled number? | May 17 02:06 |
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| GoForbes28 | !google rush roll the bones | May 17 02:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - YouTube - Rush~roll the bones | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3D8tNLvNOu9Mw | May 17 02:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Roll the Bones - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roll_the_Bones | May 17 02:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Roll The Bones Lyrics - Rush | http://www.lyricsfreak.com/r/rush/roll%2Bthe%2Bbones_20119946.html | May 17 02:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Amazon.com: Roll the Bones: Rush: Music | http://www.amazon.com/Roll-Bones-Rush/dp/B000002IRM | May 17 02:06 |
| GoForbes28 | All you need is rush | May 17 02:06 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: seen this yet http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/De-Icaza-announces-new-Mono-centric-company-Xamarin-1244119.html | May 17 02:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: De Icaza announces new Mono-centric company - Xamarin - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 40.8 KB | May 17 02:06 |
| oiaohm | Yep the complete mono staff was fired. | May 17 02:06 |
| sebsebseb | How does that changing host hting work? So oiaohm just now, and jono every now and again I see it in here. They join with their host name showing, but then in part message it says Changing host, and they are back wit the cloak | May 17 02:07 |
| sebsebseb | oiaohm: yeah well nice one Attachmate I guess | May 17 02:07 |
| GoForbes28 | schestowitz: you have an article to edit? | May 17 02:08 |
| schestowitz | GoForbes28: several | May 17 02:08 |
| msb_ | Ekiga sometimes does, sometimes doesn't, see my alsa audio out (speakers) channel. Mostly doesn't. | May 17 02:08 |
| sebsebseb | oiaohm: also that's clever of them to move Suse to Germany as it's own company, or pretty much it's own company | May 17 02:08 |
| sebsebseb | in fact I read something recently from SJVN about who may buy Suse | May 17 02:08 |
| schestowitz | but we would have to do them quickly | May 17 02:09 |
| oiaohm | sebsebseb: Attachmate wanted Suse. Infact they wanted it when Novell aquired it. | May 17 02:09 |
| GoForbes28 | I could do a couple tonight | May 17 02:09 |
| sebsebseb | oiaohm: right, but now it's moved to Germany or going to as it's own company or uhmm sort of, there person will report back to Attachmate | May 17 02:09 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Reviews: First impressions of #Slackware #Linux 13.37 http://is.gd/GoJoNi | May 17 02:09 | |
| oiaohm | sebsebseb: so we could see Suse return to its pre Novell days. | May 17 02:09 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzjUjNPYzLg&feature=autoplay&list=AVGxdCwVVULXdXOqB0Oxh2xV9tIsEx89q6&index=2&playnext=2 | May 17 02:09 |
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| msb_ | When SuSE was in Germany it all worked. | May 17 02:09 |
| schestowitz | Heh. Didn't know they did this.. | May 17 02:09 |
| GoForbes28 | msb_: When Suse wasn't a corporate pawn, it all worked | May 17 02:10 |
| msb_ | GoForbes28: That too. | May 17 02:10 |
| sebsebseb | GoForbes28: before Canonical started to properly try and make Ubuntu go man streame, it was great | May 17 02:10 |
| oiaohm | Under attachmate Suse will be given quite free rain. | May 17 02:10 |
| sebsebseb | I used to think 8.10 was ready for the avearge consumer with proper help for example | May 17 02:11 |
| oiaohm | Attachmate has already stated all software selections and so on will be done in gemery head office of Suse | May 17 02:11 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 5 Truly Bizarre But Handy Uses of #Linux http://is.gd/JRCx3m it's quite ubiquitous | May 17 02:11 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: 5 Truly Bizarre But Handy Uses of Linux | TechSource .::. Size~: 90.62 KB | May 17 02:11 |
| GoForbes28 | oiaohm: I though Suse was being spun off | May 17 02:11 |
| sebsebseb | it seems to me that once Canonical got it's design team, and they started doing to it, Ubuntu started going down hill | May 17 02:11 |
| oiaohm | Only thing Attachmate will be doing is seeing if it making a profit or not. | May 17 02:11 |
| sebsebseb | yeah 9.04 and the Canonical design team, both from about the same time I think | May 17 02:11 |
| sebsebseb | 9.04 is the start of the Gnome 2 patching | May 17 02:12 |
| oiaohm | GoForbes28: Might not fully spin off. Mind end up a sub company funding Attachmate | May 17 02:12 |
| msb_ | When OpenSuse dumped kde3 and substituted kde4, which they admitted mostly didn't work at the time, that was the beginning of the slide into the toilet. | May 17 02:12 |
| sebsebseb | or uhmm features that are seen by the user anyway, I mean maybe they patched stuff before that | May 17 02:12 |
| oiaohm | msb_: kde4 was kinda regretable. | May 17 02:14 |
| sebsebseb | however it's interesting how things work out, now I don't mind that much with the Gnome 2 patching in 11.04 classic desktp that much, because it no longer messes around with the system menu and my log out and shut down, and automatic shut down after a minute feautre | May 17 02:14 |
| sebsebseb | yes little things like that matter | May 17 02:14 |
| oiaohm | msb_: but the change to kde4 internals had to happen. kde3.5 looked ok to the user but was falling apart internally in the code base. | May 17 02:14 |
| sebsebseb | when used for years as in shutting down and re booting from the system menu, and it also matters when that's the upstream way | May 17 02:15 |
| msb_ | oiaohm: Still is, for power-users who want multiple desktops. | May 17 02:15 |
| sebsebseb | for some of us | May 17 02:15 |
| sebsebseb | no DeamonFC at the moment, that's ashame | May 17 02:15 |
| sebsebseb | oh he's in the channel DaemonFC | May 17 02:15 |
| oiaohm | msb_: I was one of those power usages I have got use to the new kde 4 activities system instead. | May 17 02:16 |
| sebsebseb | anyway as schestowitz basically said in TechBytes 44, it's not a very good thing to have one big vendor as the big one, well indeed at that | May 17 02:16 |
| msb_ | oiaohm: So they said, but was it really? How did that require the useless but enormously development intensive super complex "themes" system? Or renaming everything "plasma" BS? | May 17 02:16 |
| oiaohm | msb_: Yes feature wise early kde 4.x was lacking did cause major problems. But that was the result of completely rewriting the core that had to hapen. | May 17 02:16 |
| sebsebseb | not a good thing having loads of people thinking Ubuntu is the only one that is properly worth bothering about, when it comes to Desktop Linux | May 17 02:16 |
| oiaohm | msb_: Really its not renaming everything plasma. | May 17 02:17 |
| oiaohm | msb_: plasma is the name of one of the new engine parts. | May 17 02:17 |
| msb_ | oiaohm: Then Suse should have kept kde3 until kde4 was fully functional. (which it still isn't). | May 17 02:17 |
| sebsebseb | as for OpenSuse uhmm | May 17 02:17 |
| sebsebseb | I guess it went the way of Mandriva really | May 17 02:17 |
| oiaohm | msb_: I find kde 4.4 equally functional to 3.5 | May 17 02:18 |
| sebsebseb | not that relivent anymore, because things are mainly about Ubuntu and Fedora instead these years | May 17 02:18 |
| sebsebseb | these days/years above | May 17 02:18 |
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| sebsebseb | however if they can get OpenSuse sorted out, and it giving Ubuntu some nice proper competition I am up for that I guess, even though I am hoping Mageia will be doing this when things are a bit more developed their distro itself and community | May 17 02:19 |
| oiaohm | msb_: and when you do a core engine. The complex theme system comes out of making sure the new engines are not going to be nailed to wall. | May 17 02:19 |
| msb_ | oiaohm: Is there a small activities pager showing in every activity that can show the names of 20 activities, and can switch to any one with a single click? | May 17 02:19 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @goforbes28 :) | May 17 02:19 | |
| sebsebseb | and I feel like I am talking to a brick wall, typing a load of stuff, that probably no one else is really ready properly or at all right now | May 17 02:19 |
| sebsebseb | reading, not ready, above | May 17 02:20 |
| sebsebseb | msb_: oiaohm Ubuntu needs proper competition, come on Mageia and OpenSuse :) | May 17 02:20 |
| msb_ | oiaohm: Please explain this, I don't understand: <oiaohm> msb_: and when you do a core engine. The complex theme system comes out of making sure the new engines are not going to be nailed to wall. | May 17 02:21 |
| sebsebseb | msb_: oiaohm Ubuntu is starting to get to big/popular and I am worried about that, since the direciton it has been going in since 9.04, and the direciton it seems to be going in now as well to an extent | May 17 02:21 |
| GoForbes28 | schestowitz: so can we do some articles? | May 17 02:21 |
| oiaohm | http://maketecheasier.com/use-kde-plasma-activities/2010/09/01/ msb_ Yes the old functionality of different desktop per virtual desktop can be reenabled. | May 17 02:21 |
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| sebsebseb | and I think schestowitz thinks something similar really these days at times, but still links to lods of Ubuntu stuff on identica and so on hmm | May 17 02:22 |
| oiaohm | msb_: could be in KDE 4.0 infact if you dug into config files. | May 17 02:22 |
| sebsebseb | oiaohm: msb_ Qt 5 expected next year, so rpobably KDE 5 as well | May 17 02:23 |
| oiaohm | KDE 5 is not going to be a interface change. | May 17 02:23 |
| oiaohm | KDE5 will be more working with Qt4 to do in more KDE particular libs. | May 17 02:23 |
| oiaohm | Opps QT5 | May 17 02:23 |
| sebsebseb | well yeah probably | May 17 02:24 |
| sebsebseb | ,but KDE 5 will also have changes to the interface | May 17 02:24 |
| oiaohm | Developers already stated it going to be like KDE 2 to KDE 3 | May 17 02:24 |
| sebsebseb | well I don't know what that's like | May 17 02:24 |
| sebsebseb | not used KDE 2 | May 17 02:24 |
| oiaohm | What was basically almost nil on interface change. | May 17 02:24 |
| oiaohm | You put both in screen and most people cannot not pick from look what is kde 2 and what is kde 3 | May 17 02:25 |
| oiaohm | Ie changes in the status of minor. | May 17 02:25 |
| schestowitz | [02:17] <oiaohm> msb_: Really its not renaming everything plasma. | May 17 02:26 |
| schestowitz | I love plasma | May 17 02:26 |
| schestowitz | plasma-desktop and plasma-netbooks are great envs | May 17 02:26 |
| msb_ | Is there a small activities pager showing in every activity that can show the names of 20 activities, and can switch to any one with a single click? | May 17 02:26 |
| schestowitz | GoForbes28: yes | May 17 02:26 |
| schestowitz | Hold on | May 17 02:26 |
| schestowitz | I'll put some up | May 17 02:26 |
| GoForbes28 | !google youtube microwave plasma | May 17 02:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - YouTube - Microwave Plasma | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DAE3dRBlQjTE | May 17 02:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - YouTube - Microwave Plasma 2 | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DA7RFyh5ABcQ | May 17 02:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - YouTube - Grape Microwave Plasma | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DvCNNqgKqnaQ | May 17 02:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - YouTube - Microwave Plasma Balls | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3Drk4SZfnRufo | May 17 02:27 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Great fast environments that don't crash and work the way you would expect them to | May 17 02:27 |
| schestowitz | Sun :-) | May 17 02:27 |
| DaemonFC | hooray! | May 17 02:27 |
| schestowitz | aka "God" | May 17 02:27 |
| oiaohm | msb_: the way I use it is named virtual desktops. So yes the virtual desktop paper | May 17 02:27 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, If the Sun is God......what does that make Arcturus? | May 17 02:27 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: plasma does not crash anymore | May 17 02:27 |
| oiaohm | msb_: so yes change in a single click. | May 17 02:27 |
| schestowitz | for me, it becomes sphere when I hit bottom corners | May 17 02:28 |
| msb_ | The desktop names in the the virtual desktop paper are not clearly readable. | May 17 02:28 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.kiroastro.com/images/perspective/sun2.jpg | May 17 02:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting image/jpeg type | May 17 02:28 |
| msb_ | The desktop names in the the virtual desktop pager are not clearly readable. | May 17 02:28 |
| DaemonFC | I'm gonna pray to Arcturus | May 17 02:28 |
| DaemonFC | it looks like is could squash your God | May 17 02:28 |
| oiaohm | msb_: The popup does come up if you cannot remember what one you are going to. Saves on screen space. | May 17 02:29 |
| DaemonFC | Earth is less than one pixel? HERESY!!!!!! BURN THE NONBELIEVER!!!! | May 17 02:29 |
| oiaohm | msb_: there is the activities explorer as well. But I have no need for more than 8 so pager is more than good enough. | May 17 02:30 |
| msb_ | oiaohm: I use 20 desktops. I want a desktop-pager app that has readable desktop names. Sliding the cursor over all of them and reading the popup tooltips is absurdly time-consuming. | May 17 02:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Paul LePage vs. MPBN http://signon.org/s/13nlCY #signon | May 17 02:31 | |
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| msb_ | is the activities explorer a small applet in every activity that can show 20 readable activity names? | May 17 02:32 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Can 'mainstream media' match WikiLeaks? Not likely: http://alturl.com/v559z | May 17 02:33 | |
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| msb_ | ...and lets me switch to any of the 20 named activities with a single mouse click? | May 17 02:33 |
| oiaohm | activities exploror is a pop up window. That can display a few 100 | May 17 02:34 |
| oiaohm | once its displayed its a single click to go where ever. | May 17 02:34 |
| msb_ | oiaohm: what makes it pop up? | May 17 02:34 |
| oiaohm | Its also possible to dock the activities explorer | May 17 02:34 |
| msb_ | Does the activities exploror just show activity names or does it show pictures/windows? | May 17 02:36 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks: The new great war for oil: 1/10 of all cables are about it http://bit.ly/j669ty | May 17 02:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Changi Airport Millionaire Dance - cool video! - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QV-9ILPFqw | May 17 02:38 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: WikiLeaks cables show that it was all about the oil | McClatchy .::. Size~: 72.39 KB | May 17 02:38 |
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| msb_ | oiaohm: Please explain this, I don't understand: <oiaohm> msb_: and when you do a core engine. The complex theme system comes out of making sure the new engines are not going to be nailed to wall. | May 17 02:38 |
| oiaohm | activities switcher comes in 4.5 kde but there is the old explorer in 4.4 msb_ | May 17 02:39 |
| schestowitz | GoForbes28: http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Why_patents_are_worth_treating_as_the_principal_barrier_to_Free_software_adoption | May 17 02:40 |
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| schestowitz | That's the first | May 17 02:40 |
| schestowitz | can you ACK? | May 17 02:40 |
| msb_ | is the activities switcher a small applet in every activity that can show 20 readable activity names? | May 17 02:40 |
| schestowitz | Needs to be ready tonight BTW | May 17 02:40 |
| msb_ | ...and lets me switch to any of the 20 named activities with a single mouse click? | May 17 02:40 |
| schestowitz | cause it's time-sensitive | May 17 02:40 |
| oiaohm | msb_: Its a pop up window design. 20 is not an issue. Few 100. You can also icon you activities | May 17 02:41 |
| msb_ | oiaohm: what makes it pop up? | May 17 02:42 |
| oiaohm | msb_: 2 clicks plasma icon activities. Then select what you want. | May 17 02:43 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] RT @seananmcguire: Friends help you move. Good friends help you move bodies. True friends help you bring bodies back from the dead. | May 17 02:43 | |
| oiaohm | msb_: that is default setting. | May 17 02:43 |
| oiaohm | msb_: but it can be bound in a location so mouse can go to bottom of screen an trigger it to pop up. | May 17 02:43 |
| oiaohm | It can also be bound displayed as well. | May 17 02:44 |
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| oiaohm | KDE and their love for configruablity. | May 17 02:44 |
| GoForbes28 | ACK? | May 17 02:44 |
| msb_ | KDE4 devs were/are controlled by focus-groups populated by computer-naive MS-Windows users off the street. All they cared about was pretty themes. | May 17 02:46 |
| oiaohm | msb_: no | May 17 02:46 |
| oiaohm | msb_: I know the kde developers. | May 17 02:46 |
| msb_ | That's what I was told by someone on the inside. | May 17 02:46 |
| msb_ | If they wanted to simplify the code, why have multiple desktops AND multiple activities? | May 17 02:47 |
| msb_ | And you have not explained the need for the super-complex useless theme crap. | May 17 02:47 |
| oiaohm | Infact the pager in KDE 4 is fake. | May 17 02:47 |
| msb_ | Meaning? | May 17 02:47 |
| oiaohm | It their for people like me. | May 17 02:48 |
| oiaohm | Old kde users who kinda expect it. | May 17 02:48 |
| oiaohm | Really its just a front end to activities engine. | May 17 02:48 |
| GoForbes28 | schestowitz: ACK? | May 17 02:48 |
| oiaohm | msb_: to code base it basically almost nothing. | May 17 02:49 |
| msb_ | oiaohm: So why put the background noise in each button to make the names unreadable? | May 17 02:49 |
| oiaohm | msb_: more that discourge ment from using it in the hope we move over to the activities system proper. | May 17 02:50 |
| DaemonFC | KDE's goal is to bring a modern usable desktop to unix-like systems, which have been traditionally plagued by crap | May 17 02:50 |
| DaemonFC | if you want to tell me that a desktop environment built with MOTIF suits you, OK, go use that. That's what was around before KDE | May 17 02:50 |
| oiaohm | msb_: since activities control systems can stop and pause widgets and applications on those desktops. | May 17 02:50 |
| msb_ | The KDE3 desktop system was very easy to understand and very usable. | May 17 02:50 |
| oiaohm | msb_: where the old pager cannot. | May 17 02:50 |
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| oiaohm | pager has a feature weakness | May 17 02:51 |
| oiaohm | When it comes to running a laptop or equal power effective. | May 17 02:51 |
| oiaohm | None of the changes they are trying to force on you are not without techical reasons. | May 17 02:51 |
| msb_ | There is no need to stop apps in desktops not in use. They are paused waiting for a key or click and using very few cycles, | May 17 02:52 |
| oiaohm | Hmm so those weather applets downloading weather on the other desktops in background while you are not using them are not going to worry you. | May 17 02:53 |
| oiaohm | Other equal background tasks some applications like performing while they are open. | May 17 02:53 |
| oiaohm | Its not just about GUI. msb_ | May 17 02:53 |
| oiaohm | Can you now see why the pause and stop features become very important. msb_ | May 17 02:54 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Rumour: Microsoft to Take Over Nokia’s Mobile Unit Thanks to Entryism http://is.gd/B1aYMI #nokia #microsoft #swpats | May 17 02:54 | |
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| msb_ | That could be added to the kde3 desktop system without all the new enormous complexity. | May 17 02:55 |
| oiaohm | Sorry no it could not. | May 17 02:56 |
| msb_ | Why not? | May 17 02:56 |
| oiaohm | The engine inside kde 3 did not seperate desktops. | May 17 02:56 |
| oiaohm | It was one engine processing them all. | May 17 02:56 |
| DaemonFC | KDE 3 was a big bloated unmaintainable mess | May 17 02:56 |
| DaemonFC | I doubt they would do a major rewrite just because they could | May 17 02:57 |
| oiaohm | Internally KDE 3.x was fully assessed to try to design a plan to repair it. | May 17 02:57 |
| DaemonFC | Trinity is more hacks than actually fixing things | May 17 02:57 |
| oiaohm | After 2 years of study the developers worked out it would take about 10 to 15 years to repair it. | May 17 02:57 |
| DaemonFC | it's not going to last much longer at this rate | May 17 02:57 |
| oiaohm | Full time work. | May 17 02:57 |
| msb_ | Then the code should have been redone properly without adding all the new bloat of super-complex themes and activities+desktops. | May 17 02:57 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Rumour: Microsoft to Take Over Nokia’s Mobile Unit Thanks to Entryism http://is.gd/B1aYMI #rumor #hardware #phone #skype | May 17 02:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Fedora 15 Go-No Go meeting at 2100 UTC Tuesday May 17 - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Go_No_Go_Meeting | May 17 02:58 | |
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| DaemonFC | KDE 4 isn't all that bloated really | May 17 02:58 |
| DaemonFC | look at GNOME 3 | May 17 02:58 |
| msb_ | The page explaining the themes shows over 100 theme elements. | May 17 02:58 |
| oiaohm | msb_: Really kde 4 themes are supper complex but they do cover everything and mostly why its harder to use is that is QT 4 theme engine. | May 17 02:58 |
| DaemonFC | the requirements are far less reasonable | May 17 02:58 |
| oiaohm | With really very lttile kde particular stuff added. | May 17 02:59 |
| oiaohm | Kde 4 is a lot thinner than Kde 3 engine. | May 17 02:59 |
| DaemonFC | GNOME 3 requires not only modern graphics hardware, but particular versions of particular drivers | May 17 02:59 |
| DaemonFC | and if you don't have that you get the craptastic fallback desktop | May 17 02:59 |
| msb_ | I do not believe that the KDE4 developers were the same people who made KDE3. | May 17 03:00 |
| oiaohm | Also if you use plasma for netbooks there is no paging. | May 17 03:00 |
| oiaohm | msb_: lead developers of KDE is the same one who coded KDE 2.0 | May 17 03:00 |
| oiaohm | msb_: Yes they are the same people. | May 17 03:00 |
| oiaohm | msb_: last lead developer change was KDE 1.0 to KDE 2.0 | May 17 03:01 |
| DaemonFC | If you're going to pick on something, at least pick on the craptastic bloated desktops that have mandatory compositing for no reason at all | May 17 03:01 |
| DaemonFC | like Unity and GNOME 3 | May 17 03:01 |
| msb_ | I never use compositing. | May 17 03:01 |
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| oiaohm | KDE 4 was designed on the idea that DRI2 would be on time. | May 17 03:02 |
| oiaohm | That was a techical mistake. | May 17 03:02 |
| oiaohm | Ie KDE 4.0 was not half bad with compositing on. | May 17 03:02 |
| msb_ | What is DRI2? | May 17 03:02 |
| oiaohm | But with compoisting off it suxed. | May 17 03:02 |
| DaemonFC | oiaohm, It works fine on newer FGLRX | May 17 03:03 |
| oiaohm | DRI1 and DRI2 are you two X11 driver systems. | May 17 03:03 |
| DaemonFC | older FGLRX and Nvidia is a nightmare | May 17 03:03 |
| msb_ | How does compositing make kde4 not suck? | May 17 03:03 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: Ie older FGLRX and Nvidia that existed when when 4.0 was released. | May 17 03:03 |
| oiaohm | msb_: Number 1 you gpu is at least 16 times faster than you cpu at image alterations. | May 17 03:04 |
| oiaohm | msb_: .4.0 off loaded image processing for desktop to the GPU. | May 17 03:04 |
| DaemonFC | newer FGLRX handles compositing fine | May 17 03:04 |
| msb_ | My old graphic card is plenty fast for moving windows around and playing movies. | May 17 03:05 |
| oiaohm | msb_: compositing is a very effective way to off load. | May 17 03:05 |
| oiaohm | msb_: since the gpu can take the data you want to display process it and put it on screen where you want it without having to talk many times to the cpu. | May 17 03:05 |
| oiaohm | Ie cpu send gpu set of instructions and it does it. | May 17 03:05 |
| oiaohm | That is what compositing allowed. | May 17 03:06 |
| oiaohm | Now kde 4.0 big mistake was they stripped all the software rendering options out completely. | May 17 03:06 |
| oiaohm | so if gpu could not do it you end up with windows just poping into existance and other horid things. | May 17 03:07 |
| oiaohm | Reason is with dri2 kde should not have need to keep the software rendering code. Since there would be a provided software fall back. | May 17 03:07 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] I'm going to stab something. hard. | May 17 03:08 | |
| oiaohm | Things move slower than expected and all hell breaks lose. | May 17 03:08 |
| msb_ | Playing a full-screen movie takes about 20% of my 5-year-old dual-core CPU. Windows popping into existence are fine with me. I don't want them swooshing and wiggling. I just want to get work done. | May 17 03:08 |
| msb_ | ...And my 5-year-old display card that cost $120 when I bought it. | May 17 03:09 |
| oiaohm | Note this was about clean code base msb_ | May 17 03:09 |
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| oiaohm | They over cleaned KDE 4.0 | May 17 03:09 |
| msb_ | I'm running kde3. | May 17 03:09 |
| oiaohm | Also depending on gpu 20% on you cpu can be almost nothing on the gpu and cost less power using the GPU. | May 17 03:10 |
| schestowitz | GoForbes28: and the second (and last) one: http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Mono_appeals_for_funds_to_start_a_new_company | May 17 03:10 |
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| schestowitz | GoForbes28: urgent to do | May 17 03:10 |
| schestowitz | gn | May 17 03:10 |
| oiaohm | Yes very big power effectiveness drive. msb_ | May 17 03:10 |
| oiaohm | Is behind kde 4.X | May 17 03:10 |
| oiaohm | Of course not all those moves have good as planned. | May 17 03:11 |
| oiaohm | And most of the nastiest issues are where they did not. | May 17 03:11 |
| msb_ | Using the gpu is a matter for the video drivers, not the DE. | May 17 03:11 |
| oiaohm | No | May 17 03:11 |
| oiaohm | That is your mistake. | May 17 03:11 |
| oiaohm | KDE 4.x puts it in the video drivers hands instead of the DE | May 17 03:12 |
| oiaohm | KDE 3.x and before has it strictly in the DE hands. | May 17 03:12 |
| msb_ | Moving windows around requires far less cycles than showing movies. There's no need to optimize power for moving windows around. | May 17 03:12 |
| oiaohm | LOL | May 17 03:13 |
| oiaohm | If you move windows fast in KDE 3.5 you will find it can burn more cpu time than running a movie. | May 17 03:13 |
| msb_ | But moving windows is very infrequent compared to showing movie frames. | May 17 03:14 |
| DaemonFC | oiaohm, You can use Compiz as your window manager in KDE 3 | May 17 03:14 |
| oiaohm | Compositing also reduces the ammount of image processing that has be done. | May 17 03:14 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 17 03:14 |
| oiaohm | Compositing also means you can move a video while it playing and not have it break up on screen msb_ | May 17 03:15 |
| oiaohm | Breakup is because the 2d software rendering engine in kde 3.5 does not keep up. | May 17 03:15 |
| msb_ | That is also done very infrequently, so is not a necessary feature. | May 17 03:15 |
| oiaohm | By you maybe. | May 17 03:15 |
| oiaohm | By me video editing little more frequently. | May 17 03:16 |
| msb_ | So plug in your laptop while you are editing videos on it. | May 17 03:16 |
| oiaohm | It not just power usage. | May 17 03:16 |
| oiaohm | Its image not being displayed correctly. | May 17 03:17 |
| msb_ | Don't fuck up the entire DE just so you can edit videos on battery. | May 17 03:17 |
| oiaohm | KDE 4.x really has not screwed the DE up. | May 17 03:17 |
| oiaohm | Yes its different. | May 17 03:17 |
| oiaohm | But why is that bad. | May 17 03:17 |
| oiaohm | Really msb_ you are like a windows user. They learn a stack of habits so they don't cause windows to have issues. | May 17 03:18 |
| msb_ | It doesn't have a readable desktop-pager. You can't slide back the panels by clicking on a little thingy at one edge. | May 17 03:18 |
| msb_ | It now forces on everyone phonon which doesn't work with old mobos, so I'm told to buy a new computer so it will work. Just like Microsoft. | May 17 03:19 |
| oiaohm | msb_: how old of motherboard are you talking about. phonon here is on a 12 year old board. | May 17 03:19 |
| oiaohm | Really what in F are you talking about. | May 17 03:20 |
| msb_ | My "habit" is to have a simple readable desktop pager in my bottom panel so I can switch between desktops with a single click. That his simple optimal human-computer interface. | May 17 03:20 |
| oiaohm | I am talking to you from a very old machine running KDE 4 and all its parts. | May 17 03:20 |
| msb_ | Asus M2N-E | May 17 03:20 |
| oiaohm | Infact same board | May 17 03:21 |
| oiaohm | That a Linux kernel driver issue | May 17 03:21 |
| oiaohm | Don't run Ubuntu no matter what. | May 17 03:21 |
| msb_ | Alsa works on it, pulseaudio doesn't. Phonon doesn't. | May 17 03:21 |
| oiaohm | They have the wrong firmwares. | May 17 03:21 |
| oiaohm | Alsa running wine and a audio editing software don't work either | May 17 03:22 |
| oiaohm | jackaudio don't work either. | May 17 03:22 |
| oiaohm | with the wrong firmware | May 17 03:22 |
| oiaohm | Basic Alsa works somehow. | May 17 03:22 |
| msb_ | I run audacity audio editor all the time. I've run utorrent in wine. | May 17 03:22 |
| oiaohm | I said audio editores in wine | May 17 03:22 |
| oiaohm | Not utorrent. | May 17 03:23 |
| oiaohm | audacity works because it don't ask for real-time features. | May 17 03:23 |
| msb_ | What exactly are you saying has wrong firmware? | May 17 03:23 |
| oiaohm | As soon as you ask for real-time features from alsa the firmware takes a wrong turn lossing all audio from then on. | May 17 03:23 |
| msb_ | Firmware in mobo ROM ? | May 17 03:24 |
| oiaohm | So causing the effect of jackaudio Phonon(can be made work with some options to change its request to alsa) and pulseaudio to fail. | May 17 03:24 |
| oiaohm | msb_: firmware blob with kernel. | May 17 03:24 |
| oiaohm | Easisty way is to tell Phonon to back onto vlc and gstreamer. | May 17 03:25 |
| msb_ | So pulseaudio/phonon drivers have wrong firmware blob? | May 17 03:25 |
| oiaohm | No the Linux kernel drive for the sound card. | May 17 03:25 |
| oiaohm | is failing. | May 17 03:25 |
| oiaohm | Side effect pulseaudio and phonon fail. | May 17 03:26 |
| oiaohm | Basically alsa is going splat under everything. | May 17 03:26 |
| oiaohm | You have been blaming the wrong thing. | May 17 03:27 |
| oiaohm | Ok I don't run pulseaudio with KDE 4 at all. | May 17 03:27 |
| oiaohm | Because I find it a waste of cpu time. | May 17 03:27 |
| oiaohm | This is what I am talking about. There is a bug lets just avoid it. Not find out why and have it fixed. | May 17 03:29 |
| msb_ | Other people with other sound systems say pulseaudio fails for them too. I guess their sound drivers are also bad. | May 17 03:30 |
| cubezzz | I use kde 3.5.10 | May 17 03:30 |
| GoForbes28 | schestowitz: Finishing final spelling on the first one | May 17 03:30 |
| oiaohm | pulseaudio is buggy as hell. msb_ | May 17 03:30 |
| oiaohm | phonon on the other hand is not that buggy. | May 17 03:30 |
| cubezzz | oiaohm, so which new distros do not use pulseaudio? | May 17 03:31 |
| oiaohm | It does not have to go threw pulseaudio | May 17 03:31 |
| cubezzz | bsd? | May 17 03:31 |
| msb_ | Maybe the pulseaudio devs should have tried their system out with lots of sound chips and made sure it works. | May 17 03:31 |
| cubezzz | msb_, what are you using? | May 17 03:31 |
| oiaohm | cubezzz: I don't care I strip it out of my custom debian disks. | May 17 03:31 |
| cubezzz | don't think lenny had pulse | May 17 03:32 |
| msb_ | KDE 3.5.10 also. | May 17 03:32 |
| msb_ | With alsa. It all works. | May 17 03:32 |
| cubezzz | I use alsa for sound, even for mplayer | May 17 03:32 |
| cubezzz | yep | May 17 03:32 |
| oiaohm | Really its not just alsa with kde 3.5 | May 17 03:33 |
| cubezzz | vector linux classic or freebsd | May 17 03:33 |
| oiaohm | you will have artd sound server as well msb_ | May 17 03:33 |
| cubezzz | you can turn off artsd | May 17 03:33 |
| cubezzz | I don't want sound effects in the DE anyway | May 17 03:33 |
| msb_ | Me either. | May 17 03:34 |
| oiaohm | That was the big change over to phonon | May 17 03:34 |
| oiaohm | That sound effects from DE no longer depended on existance of a sound server | May 17 03:34 |
| oiaohm | And could go direct to alsa | May 17 03:34 |
| GoForbes28 | schestowitz: 1st article editted | May 17 03:34 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] I am !listening to !TechBytes Episode 46 about #Microsoft #Skype and other things: http://techrights.org/2011/05/15/techbytes-episode-46/ | May 17 03:34 | |
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| msb_ | I think it's a lie to claim that it would have taken 10 to 15 years to rewrite kde3 in good code with the same functionality. | May 17 03:35 |
| cubezzz | msb_, have you looked at project trinity? | May 17 03:35 |
| msb_ | Not much yet, but I will. | May 17 03:35 |
| oiaohm | The simple thing is how much of a prickly mess it is. | May 17 03:35 |
| oiaohm | If you try reworking the code of KDE 3 and keeping it able to run stuff from the past. | May 17 03:36 |
| oiaohm | Lot of the structs and that are incorrectly designed for what you need. | May 17 03:36 |
| cubezzz | just have one kde 3.5.10 machine... | May 17 03:36 |
| oiaohm | That brings many times work. | May 17 03:36 |
| cubezzz | older OS for older hardware, newer OS for newer hardware | May 17 03:36 |
| oiaohm | Basically it would be faster to take the KDE 4.x base engine | May 17 03:36 |
| cubezzz | I like some things about KDE 4+ but... | May 17 03:37 |
| oiaohm | And layer a KDE 3.5 look over the top. | May 17 03:37 |
| cubezzz | it's sloooow on older hardware | May 17 03:37 |
| oiaohm | Have you tried the netbook form. | May 17 03:37 |
| cubezzz | e.g. kcharselect is way better | May 17 03:37 |
| cubezzz | oiaohm, hmm don't think I have | May 17 03:37 |
| msb_ | I use kde4 konsole. And kde4 klipper because I can load the mouse clipboard from a bash script using qdbust. | May 17 03:38 |
| oiaohm | See there are things kde 4 has got right. msb_ | May 17 03:38 |
| oiaohm | There are still things KDE 4 needs to fix. | May 17 03:39 |
| cubezzz | oiaohm, kde4 is too.... it's got too much F/X or something | May 17 03:39 |
| oiaohm | Like simpler ways to ajust sizes of particular. | May 17 03:39 |
| cubezzz | too elaborate | May 17 03:39 |
| oiaohm | netbook form cuts that stuff to a bone. cubezzz | May 17 03:39 |
| oiaohm | That is why I asked if you had tried it. | May 17 03:40 |
| cubezzz | oiaohm, how much ram would you say is necessary if you want kde 4? | May 17 03:40 |
| cubezzz | to run well... | May 17 03:40 |
| oiaohm | Plasma netbook the cut to bone 128 meg | May 17 03:41 |
| cubezzz | hmmm, I guess I'll have to try that sometime | May 17 03:41 |
| oiaohm | the full normal kde desktop 512 to 1G | May 17 03:41 |
| oiaohm | 512 is dependant on gpu. | May 17 03:41 |
| oiaohm | Basically you are right on the too much F/X stuff | May 17 03:42 |
| msb_ | KDE3 has simple, easy to understand GUI. KDE4 with themes, "plasma", cashews, unreadable desktop-pager has very badly designed UI, at least for power-users who want to get work done. | May 17 03:42 |
| cubezzz | oiaohm, amazing how amigados 1.3 ran in 512k :) | May 17 03:42 |
| oiaohm | msb_: Remember I am a power user who does get work done. | May 17 03:42 |
| msb_ | .. and dashboard, activities, and folder-view. | May 17 03:42 |
| oiaohm | desktop-pager I do agree adjusting its fonts should be simpler. | May 17 03:43 |
| cubezzz | even KDE 3 is a bit heavy | May 17 03:43 |
| oiaohm | activities I do find highly useful | May 17 03:43 |
| cubezzz | but I really like konsole | May 17 03:43 |
| msb_ | desktop-pager needs to lose the window outlines in background of buttons, which make name unreadable. | May 17 03:44 |
| oiaohm | msb_: that is mostly better theming control over it. | May 17 03:44 |
| msb_ | konsole, system monitor, and klipper are improved in kde4, and I use them in kde3. | May 17 03:45 |
| oiaohm | msb_: basically complete rewirte there is always something broken. | May 17 03:45 |
| oiaohm | But for me just theming in one area broken I can live with. | May 17 03:45 |
| msb_ | oiaohm: But this "something" is extremely vital. | May 17 03:45 |
| msb_ | You can't read the goddamn desktop names in the pager buttons!!!!! | May 17 03:45 |
| cubezzz | well we will write our own DE :) | May 17 03:46 |
| oiaohm | Thinking we are ment to stop using the pager and switch over to the activities replacement. | May 17 03:46 |
| oiaohm | I can understand them not making it pleasent. | May 17 03:46 |
| cubezzz | oiaohm, how do I get the Pi symbol on Linux? | May 17 03:46 |
| cubezzz | I was trying to do that the other day.... | May 17 03:47 |
| msb_ | Linux is about the user having control of the computer, not some goddamn devs somewhere forcing their ideas on people. | May 17 03:47 |
| oiaohm | Have you used 4.5 with the activities popup. | May 17 03:47 |
| cubezzz | there's pilcrow but no pi symbol | May 17 03:47 |
| msb_ | No. I am not going to use at least twice as much effort and time to switch desktops as I do now. | May 17 03:48 |
| oiaohm | msb_: so take mouse to bottom of screen and select? | May 17 03:49 |
| oiaohm | Too much effort? | May 17 03:49 |
| msb_ | Show me a screen shot of it set up that way. | May 17 03:49 |
| msb_ | oiaohm: Will there be an activity pager applet in the bottom panel with buttons showing the readable names of the activities? | May 17 03:54 |
| msb_ | Like the kde3 desktop-pager? | May 17 03:54 |
| msb_ | brb | May 17 03:56 |
| oiaohm | http://www.linux.com/images/stories/desktop_activities_panel.png That is the panel. Hmm looks like I have had a widget for activity changing. | May 17 04:00 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] CDAC Noida website need FLASH plugin to do online registration - http://www.cdacnoida.in/Online_instructions.asp #fail | May 17 04:03 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @jonobacon choosing a master isn't freedom of choice, that's a logic #fail. And sorry but no, those people won't be your customers anyway. | May 17 04:08 | |
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| msb_ | oiaohm: Which is the activity pager? The thing that says "Writing / Search and Launch / News" ? | May 17 04:14 |
| sebsebseb | cubezzz: msb_ oiaohm Hmm was just reading about how some countries aren't meant to download Fedora | May 17 04:20 |
| msb_ | sebsebseb: China and Iraq? | May 17 04:20 |
| cubezzz | which ones? | May 17 04:21 |
| sebsebseb | Iraq yes, China no | May 17 04:21 |
| sebsebseb | I meant China is alloweed, but Iraq no | May 17 04:21 |
| sebsebseb | https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Legal/Export | May 17 04:21 |
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| sebsebseb | https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/Download/ExportRegulations | May 17 04:22 |
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| cubezzz | even Yarrow is on the list | May 17 04:22 |
| sebsebseb | http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2011-May/151484.html | May 17 04:22 |
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| sebsebseb | what's Yarrow? | May 17 04:22 |
| cubezzz | you know.... FC1 | May 17 04:23 |
| sebsebseb | it has a list next to versions yes | May 17 04:23 |
| sebsebseb | ,but | May 17 04:23 |
| sebsebseb | I don't understand what's next to them, what's yarrow? | May 17 04:23 |
| sebsebseb | a country I haevn't heard of? | May 17 04:23 |
| cubezzz | Yarrow is just a code name for FC1 :) | May 17 04:23 |
| cubezzz | like Laughlin | May 17 04:24 |
| sebsebseb | oh right | May 17 04:24 |
| sebsebseb | anyway these banned counteries could have their own distros I guess? | May 17 04:24 |
| sebsebseb | or what is the Linux kernel located in the USA, and now not alloweed to download that either? | May 17 04:24 |
| cubezzz | not sure, but I assume Iraq has some sort of internet | May 17 04:25 |
| msb_ | Cuba, Iran, Iraq, North Korea, Sudan or Syria. Countries that have never attacked the U.S. But the U.S. and Israeli govts -- that blew up the World Trade Center -- they can have it. | May 17 04:25 |
| cubezzz | assuming that, they could download some kind of distro | May 17 04:25 |
| sebsebseb | msb_: Where you from by the way? | May 17 04:25 |
| msb_ | USA | May 17 04:25 |
| sebsebseb | ah yes see in your host name | May 17 04:25 |
| sebsebseb | uhmm your saying the US goverment blew up the world trade centre? those were remours years ago | May 17 04:25 |
| msb_ | My site: cosmicpenguin.com | May 17 04:25 |
| sebsebseb | I thought USA doesn't like Cuba, because it's communist and illegal drugs can come from there and such? | May 17 04:26 |
| msb_ | sebsebseb: Absolute scientific proof. See my 9/11 page. | May 17 04:26 |
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| sebsebseb | I don't really understand the US export laws stuff, but from what I know about it, it seems stupid | May 17 04:27 |
| msb_ | sebsebseb: Right, unlike Mexico, which is where the drugs actually come from, and with which we pretty much have an open border, and 30,000,000 of their citizens here. | May 17 04:27 |
| sebsebseb | well yeah that's true, loads of drugs come from Mexico into the US, most of them even | May 17 04:27 |
| DaemonFC | ok, tell me what's wrong with this picture | May 17 04:27 |
| DaemonFC | the US has reached its legal debt limit | May 17 04:27 |
| GoForbes28 | schestowitz: 2nt article editted | May 17 04:27 |
| DaemonFC | The Democrats want to just raise it | May 17 04:28 |
| DaemonFC | the Republicans are saying, not without some cuts | May 17 04:28 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Hi all | May 17 04:28 |
| DaemonFC | and between the two, everything that could be cut is off the table | May 17 04:28 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | you guys here about mono? | May 17 04:28 |
| *DaemonFC loves theater | May 17 04:28 | |
| msb_ | Last year, Pres. Obomber gave the international banking cartel 28 TRILLION dollars. | May 17 04:28 |
| *cubezzz doesn't use mono | May 17 04:28 | |
| Chips_B_Malroy | http://www.zdnet.com/blog/microsoft/mono-lives-in-new-startup-xamarin/9465 | May 17 04:29 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | Miguel is not saying who is behind the funding if anyone | May 17 04:29 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | but we can guess | May 17 04:29 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk I love "The Princess Bride", but it is much younger than I, although it's author, William Goldman, is much older. | May 17 04:29 | |
| sebsebseb | msb_: cubezzz Here's what people had to say about it and how I found out: http://identi.ca/conversation/71232323 | May 17 04:29 |
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| sebsebseb | anyway I think the Fedora re spins are located in other counteries, two come to mind | May 17 04:30 |
| sebsebseb | I know one is in another country for sure, the other not sure | May 17 04:30 |
| sebsebseb | I guess these banned counteries can download Fedora re spins from all or most other counteries? | May 17 04:30 |
| cubezzz | msb, I don't understand | May 17 04:30 |
| cubezzz | how could the Pres give them 28 trillion? | May 17 04:30 |
| cubezzz | is there even that much money in the whole world? | May 17 04:33 |
| sebsebseb | cubezzz: msb_ Ah yes now I remember, Microsoft aren't aloweed to sell Windows in those banned counteries apparantly | May 17 04:33 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Iran is one I believe banned | May 17 04:33 |
| sebsebseb | ,but I guess they got loads of pirate copies instead of WIndows for example | May 17 04:33 |
| DaemonFC | Republicans :Oh no, we can't possibly stop paying for the wars, how will we kill brown people without wars? Democrats: Well it's not like we can stop paying for Medicare, how will some 83 year old man in Anytown, USA get his Viagra then? Both: RABBLERABBLERABBLERABBLE!!!!!! | May 17 04:33 |
| sebsebseb | I don't really understand this stuff like I was saying, but export laws seem a bit raceist to me | May 17 04:33 |
| cubezzz | sebsebseb, lol lucky Iraq | May 17 04:33 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | May 17 04:33 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | If you build it they will come. If you ban it the price will go down. Iran $1 windows | May 17 04:33 |
| sebsebseb | there was a link on one of those sites, to some sort of US goverment document about it though, hmm | May 17 04:33 |
| sebsebseb | one of those pages, above | May 17 04:33 |
| sebsebseb | on Fedora site | May 17 04:33 |
| sebsebseb | anyway if Fedora is going to be banned from these counteries, hmm maybe they need to ban all US based websites, I mean virtually they are being exported to the country | May 17 04:33 |
| msb_ | Obviously any country can download Redhat as Fedora or the distros based on it. | May 17 04:34 |
| sebsebseb | and if they do that, that would be most of the websites on the Internet I guess, except for Chinese websites maybe | May 17 04:34 |
| sebsebseb | yep bye bye Facebook :) | May 17 04:34 |
| sebsebseb | bye bye Twitter :) | May 17 04:34 |
| sebsebseb | bye bye Youtube | May 17 04:34 |
| sebsebseb | etc | May 17 04:34 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-diB65scQU | May 17 04:34 |
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| sebsebseb | bye bye Google | May 17 04:34 |
| cubezzz | bye bye Facebook, no problem there | May 17 04:34 |
| GoForbes28 | Chips_B_Malroy: "Xamarin" is operating in no other than Bellevue, Washington | May 17 04:34 |
| sebsebseb | cubezzz: well yeah Facebook :( | May 17 04:34 |
| GoForbes28 | Chips_B_Malroy: At least according to WhoIs | May 17 04:35 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | then M$ is still the source of money for Mono/Miguel | May 17 04:35 |
| GoForbes28 | seems to be, TR article to come sooon | May 17 04:35 |
| sebsebseb | I tend to keep out of polotics , but uhmm seems to me that quite a lot of people don't really trust the US goverment much, including many who live there | May 17 04:35 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | there is other news links on it, in one Miguel describes "angel funding" as the source | May 17 04:36 |
| msb_ | sebsebseb: Well, when the US govt gets to murdering 2,000,000 in Afghanistan and Iraq, based on a false-flag terror attack that the US govt itself did, that's worth paying attention to. | May 17 04:37 |
| sebsebseb | msb_: hmm are you one of these people who belive in NWO by the way? | May 17 04:37 |
| DaemonFC | It was the JEWS | May 17 04:37 |
| DaemonFC | JUDEN!!!! | May 17 04:37 |
| DaemonFC | Round them all up I say! | May 17 04:37 |
| msb_ | 2,000,000 people! And a lot more injured and crippled. | May 17 04:37 |
| DaemonFC | Pry them away from their JEW GOLD! | May 17 04:37 |
| DaemonFC | and make them wear pajamas in camps | May 17 04:37 |
| DaemonFC | :P | May 17 04:37 |
| GoForbes28 | sebsebseb: I don't trust the Harper Gov't because it lies and deceitful; how can anyone trust that? | May 17 04:38 |
| GoForbes28 | sebsebseb: I assume the same is the case for the US | May 17 04:39 |
| msb_ | I am Jewish, in fact, although I don't believe in the religion. As to the NWO, check out some of the videos linked near the top of my website. Our politicians sure believe in the NWO. They talk about it. | May 17 04:39 |
| DaemonFC | WIR MUSSEN DIE JUDEN AUSROTTEN!!!! | May 17 04:39 |
| DaemonFC | :P | May 17 04:39 |
| cubezzz | every generation seems to talk about the NWO | May 17 04:40 |
| GoForbes28 | msb_: I'm terribly bad with the terminology | May 17 04:40 |
| GoForbes28 | msb_: I understand one can become Jewish through adopting the religion, but is one born in Israel born Jewish? | May 17 04:41 |
| cubezzz | how about OPEC lol | May 17 04:41 |
| DaemonFC | cubezzz, this NWO crap is just recruitment tools for rednecks who wear army fatigues they bought on surplus and get together to compare guns :P | May 17 04:41 |
| GoForbes28 | cubezzz: combined with inflation, screwed up the 1970s for mostly everyone | May 17 04:41 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Mad Ballmer is on a buying spree right now. First Skype and now rumor has it he wants to actually buy Nokia phones, just the phone part. | May 17 04:41 |
| cubezzz | just buy electric cars... it's way past time | May 17 04:42 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | question is, why buy the cow when you already paid for the milk? | May 17 04:42 |
| *DaemonFC sends some black helicopters for cubezzz | May 17 04:42 | |
| GoForbes28 | cubezzz: Though it was largely a gov't blunder, the OPEC actions were just the salt on the wounds | May 17 04:42 |
| *cubezzz runs North | May 17 04:42 | |
| msb_ | There seem to be about 6,000 people at the tops of the banking, media, weapons, pharma, etc. industries who control the US and many other governments. In various fora, some of them have said they want a "new world order". | May 17 04:42 |
| GoForbes28 | msb_: No seriously, I am always confused by the terms | May 17 04:42 |
| DaemonFC | http://digitallife.today.com/_news/2011/05/16/6656187-facebook-loving-parents-name-their-baby-like | May 17 04:42 |
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| GoForbes28 | Is this a Seinfeld episode? | May 17 04:43 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Been struggling to figure out why Ballmer paid so much money for Skype (other than he is an moron) | May 17 04:43 |
| DaemonFC | That kid is going to be so screwed up, I bet he blocks both of them for this | May 17 04:43 |
| GoForbes28 | Add to his patent pool? Ego? | May 17 04:43 |
| cubezzz | Ballmer's like Gates, always trying to control everything | May 17 04:43 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | yes | May 17 04:43 |
| cubezzz | if you can't beat them, buy them | May 17 04:43 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | both anwsers are good | May 17 04:43 |
| GoForbes28 | DaemonFC: Seriously, it's like the Seinfeld episode with the suggested names of Soda and Seven | May 17 04:44 |
| msb_ | "Jewish" is an ethnicity and a religion. One can have either or both. Zionism is basically the Jewish form of fascism. | May 17 04:44 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | but you have to think like a monopolist to understand the skype deal | May 17 04:44 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/146630/20110516/heaven-is-a-fairy-story-says-stephen-hawking.htm | May 17 04:44 |
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| GoForbes28 | msb_: Thanks for clearing that up. :) | May 17 04:44 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Skype is "the" voip app | May 17 04:44 |
| GoForbes28 | Like how MSOffice is a "standard" | May 17 04:45 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | its the most widely used voip app out there | May 17 04:45 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | It is used by most platforms | May 17 04:45 |
| GoForbes28 | source? | May 17 04:45 |
| msb_ | Skype is sure much easier to set up and use than ekiga, linphone, sip-communicator. I still can't get those to work. | May 17 04:45 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | consider skype as a killer application, its how Ballmer thinks of it | May 17 04:45 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | yes | May 17 04:46 |
| cubezzz | I think I have Ekiga working | May 17 04:46 |
| GoForbes28 | msb_ Sip communitcator worked for me | May 17 04:46 |
| GoForbes28 | PSI+ too | May 17 04:46 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] RD @mlinksva 80% of hackers agree: abolish all software patents http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2552740 !fsf !gnu !esp | May 17 04:46 | |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | gmail chat video here as I need to get some xp users to use it. | May 17 04:46 |
| msb_ | Tried Sip communitcator (Jitsi) today. The rpm was malformed and rejected, and the source had a dozen errors when built. | May 17 04:47 |
| GoForbes28 | Chips_B_Malroy: PSI+ works with GMAIL accounts and has video/voice | May 17 04:47 |
| GoForbes28 | msb_ it's a java app | May 17 04:47 |
| GoForbes28 | msb_ if that helps | May 17 04:48 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Ballmer thinks of skype as a killer application, and he might be partly correct. In that it will be hard for some folks to give up skype and move to another platform in the future other than windows. | May 17 04:48 |
| msb_ | PSI+ ? | May 17 04:48 |
| GoForbes28 | no, sip communicator is java | May 17 04:48 |
| cubezzz | so someone writes an open source skpe | May 17 04:48 |
| GoForbes28 | PSI+ is Qt | May 17 04:48 |
| cubezzz | or another one :) | May 17 04:48 |
| GoForbes28 | cubezzz protocol yes | May 17 04:48 |
| oiaohm | Really for me Skype is worthless. | May 17 04:49 |
| GoForbes28 | cubezzz a client using the skype network would be pointless | May 17 04:49 |
| oiaohm | If it don't support jabber and sip it cannot connect to businesses I deal with. | May 17 04:49 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Ballmer buying skype is mainly about lock in. He sees the lock in of Office, which is now becoming worthless must be replaced with another killer app. | May 17 04:49 |
| GoForbes28 | oiaohm: good point, jabber is definite standard | May 17 04:50 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Office365 is going to kill the Office lockin thanks to OpenOffice/LibreOffice and Google Docs. | May 17 04:50 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | The price of MS Office has been coming down and this trend will continue thanks to the excellent competition. | May 17 04:51 |
| cubezzz | bah, Microsoft just wants $$$ as always | May 17 04:51 |
| msb_ | I've talked with people all over the world using Skype. It works great! | May 17 04:51 |
| msb_ | Does PSI+ do SIP? | May 17 04:51 |
| oiaohm | http://www.gnu.org/software/sipwitch/ I am more interested in. | May 17 04:51 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | cubezz> yes they want the $, but how to keep em down on the farm? | May 17 04:51 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | more lock in | May 17 04:51 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | skype | May 17 04:51 |
| oiaohm | msb_: Remember I deal with bussiness that run their own internal telephone systems. | May 17 04:52 |
| oiaohm | That skype does not bolt to well. | May 17 04:52 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | of course they also want the patents, and they want a skype port to WP7 | May 17 04:52 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | WP7 was dead without skype | May 17 04:52 |
| msb_ | Well, skype sure works great person to person. | May 17 04:52 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | the killer app | May 17 04:52 |
| GoForbes28 | msb_: PSI+ is a jabber client, so I don't think so, one sec | May 17 04:52 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | supposedly Elop made that part of the deal according to one link I seen, that MS had to aquire skype for windows phone | May 17 04:53 |
| oiaohm | GoForbes28: I can forward from asterisk to jabber. | May 17 04:53 |
| oiaohm | GoForbes28: as long as the client support jabber audio | May 17 04:54 |
| oiaohm | GoForbes28: I can sip link it. | May 17 04:54 |
| GoForbes28 | http://psi-plus.com/wiki/doku.php/en:jingle_bots | May 17 04:54 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | there should be no question that MS will hose the linux port of skype or completely abandon it | May 17 04:54 |
| GoForbes28 | msb_: as this page and oiaohm indicated, with some work, yes | May 17 04:54 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | its just standard MS playbook | May 17 04:55 |
| oiaohm | sipwitch interests me for location to locaction linking. | May 17 04:55 |
| GoForbes28 | oiaohm: Can you elaborate further? | May 17 04:55 |
| oiaohm | without depending on a centeral server. | May 17 04:56 |
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| GoForbes28 | oiaohm: Have you tried (this with) PSI+? | May 17 04:56 |
| oiaohm | GoForbes28: Yes. | May 17 04:56 |
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| msb_ | GoForbes28: I can't even get ekiga to work. Sometimes it can do audio output, usually it can't. This in the same invocation of ekiga. | May 17 04:56 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | GoForbes28> I will try out psi+ and others, but for now google chat will work for all my contacts soon as I can convert them | May 17 04:56 |
| oiaohm | Because most open source sip servers like asterisk support jabber as a plugin. | May 17 04:56 |
| GoForbes28 | oiaohm: Service discovery? | May 17 04:57 |
| oiaohm | not exactly. | May 17 04:57 |
| oiaohm | I can register a jabber account just the same as registering a sip phone. | May 17 04:57 |
| oiaohm | In most of the sip servers. | May 17 04:57 |
| oiaohm | So call comes in for X line | May 17 04:58 |
| oiaohm | X line is assigned to X jabber account. | May 17 04:58 |
| GoForbes28 | oiaohm: Could I like the Gmail account in PSI+ to SIP? | May 17 04:58 |
| oiaohm | So user on that jabber accout gets notified of incoming voice message request. | May 17 04:58 |
| GoForbes28 | I also have a jabber.hot-chilli.net account I could use | May 17 04:58 |
| oiaohm | And the reverse is possible connect to the servers jabber accout. | May 17 04:58 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/05/16/mono_founders_launch_new_company/ | May 17 04:58 |
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| oiaohm | message it the number you want to call. | May 17 04:59 |
| oiaohm | And it makes the call on the asterisk server. | May 17 04:59 |
| oiaohm | But yes the server has to have a interface jabber account. | May 17 04:59 |
| GoForbes28 | so no gmail | May 17 04:59 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | "The plan was Xamarian, and it already includes angel funding and a "couple of" engineering contracts to keep it afloat before the first products arrive." | May 17 05:00 |
| GoForbes28 | or yes? | May 17 05:00 |
| oiaohm | We can use any jabber server with voice support. | May 17 05:00 |
| oiaohm | That does include gmail. | May 17 05:00 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | the angel funding quote | May 17 05:00 |
| GoForbes28 | I would like to test this further | May 17 05:00 |
| GoForbes28 | ...will be in the article | May 17 05:00 |
| oiaohm | Thing is calling users can only be approved from jabber of course. | May 17 05:00 |
| oiaohm | This is ideal for business. | May 17 05:01 |
| oiaohm | We need to connect staff we don't need to connect everyone. | May 17 05:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Wondering how many #Czech !RedHat employees are named "Jiri" | May 17 05:01 | |
| GoForbes28 | oiaohm: Makes sense | May 17 05:01 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | nobody really wants mono, except for M$, Miguel, and some in Ubuntu | May 17 05:01 |
| GoForbes28 | msb_ has a sip account though | May 17 05:02 |
| oiaohm | sipwitch also suites better into business needs as well. | May 17 05:02 |
| oiaohm | Ie no server that is not ours. | May 17 05:02 |
| GoForbes28 | It would be great for me since I could just use PSI+ and connect to Roy and the others | May 17 05:02 |
| GoForbes28 | but msb_ can't use his sip account with PSI+ AFAIK | May 17 05:03 |
| oiaohm | But allows multi server locations | May 17 05:03 |
| msb_ | GoForbes28: Yes I do. And the ekiga echo test works sometimes and not others, even in the same invocation of ekiga. I have no idea why. | May 17 05:03 |
| oiaohm | That can go down seperately. | May 17 05:03 |
| oiaohm | sip is not exactly light. | May 17 05:03 |
| msb_ | With skype, if the test call works, it works consistently. And if it works, you know you're on the air and can initiate and receive calls. | May 17 05:04 |
| GoForbes28 | I have to go now unfortunately, will be you be online oiaohm tomorrow? | May 17 05:04 |
| oiaohm | GoForbes28: Most likely no. | May 17 05:04 |
| oiaohm | I have to get a new powersupply and other things for my laptop. | May 17 05:05 |
| GoForbes28 | gotcha | May 17 05:05 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | MagicJack is not free. And only works with windows and mac. They promised a linux port and have never delivered on it. Its only for voice calls, but does that very well. | May 17 05:05 |
| GoForbes28 | well, I'll try the PSI+ - SIP test on my own | May 17 05:05 |
| oiaohm | msb_: Really no. | May 17 05:05 |
| oiaohm | msb_: speekx protocal works needing lower network requirements than skype | May 17 05:05 |
| msb_ | oiaohm: Yeah, well if I could get it to work I'd use it. | May 17 05:06 |
| oiaohm | skype is really not the best thing out there. | May 17 05:06 |
| oiaohm | Remember I get it to work all the time. | May 17 05:06 |
| msb_ | Lots of people do I'm sure. | May 17 05:07 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | gmail chat is better than skype. | May 17 05:07 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | only you cannot send files | May 17 05:07 |
| GoForbes28 | see you all tomorrow (hopefully)! | May 17 05:07 |
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| oiaohm | msb_: You think of skype as free. | May 17 05:08 |
| msb_ | And just like that, he was gone. | May 17 05:08 |
| msb_ | oiaohm: skype is free. | May 17 05:08 |
| oiaohm | http://www.digium.com/en/products/software/skypeforasterisk.php Point is. Its 66 USD per line to an asterisk server. | May 17 05:08 |
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| oiaohm | No its not free. | May 17 05:08 |
| oiaohm | Free for home users | May 17 05:08 |
| oiaohm | Expensive prick to business. | May 17 05:08 |
| oiaohm | And that is a per year fee. | May 17 05:09 |
| DaemonFC | meh | May 17 05:09 |
| DaemonFC | Skype is going to bleed cash | May 17 05:09 |
| DaemonFC | no matter what Microsoft does with it | May 17 05:09 |
| msb_ | If there were a voip app that was as easy to install, configure, and use as skype, I'd tell everyone to use it. But apparently there is not. | May 17 05:10 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | it doesn't bleed much cash right now, but give ballmer a little time and it will | May 17 05:11 |
| oiaohm | msb_: Really I do for business. | May 17 05:11 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | msb> use gmail chat | May 17 05:11 |
| oiaohm | msb_: Were I do server side. | May 17 05:11 |
| oiaohm | msb_: Really its not that hard. | May 17 05:11 |
| msb_ | Chips_B_Malroy: gmail chat does voice? | May 17 05:11 |
| DaemonFC | Google Talk is easy to use and cross platform | May 17 05:11 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | yes, and video | May 17 05:11 |
| DaemonFC | I haven't used Skype in years | May 17 05:11 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | you have to sign up for an gmail account | May 17 05:12 |
| oiaohm | msb_: gmail chat does voice video any shared screens ..... List goes on. | May 17 05:12 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | and then in the chat window install the voice and video plugin. its an deb or rpm download | May 17 05:12 |
| DaemonFC | ZOMGNONOTSKYPENOOOOOOWHYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!?????? BALLMER!!!!!!!!!!!! | May 17 05:13 |
| DaemonFC | :P | May 17 05:13 |
| DaemonFC | no, not really | May 17 05:13 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | http://forum.mepiscommunity.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=30578 Adrian says gmail chat is good. The UI is better than skype | May 17 05:14 |
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| oiaohm | http://code.google.com/p/redfire/ Also for me I don't have to install clients in the machines all the time either. msb_ | May 17 05:14 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | not that I would stop with gmail | May 17 05:15 |
| oiaohm | msb_: ie user goes to webpage logins in from there they can voice message. | May 17 05:15 |
| oiaohm | or video message. | May 17 05:15 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | be it is easy, and I need easy from some of the folks that are my contacts to ween off skype | May 17 05:15 |
| oiaohm | For business this is really nice. | May 17 05:15 |
| msb_ | I'm investigating google voice now. | May 17 05:15 |
| oiaohm | So chromeos support I already have. msb_ | May 17 05:16 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | notice Adrian has a picture of gmail video working in Mepis linux | May 17 05:16 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | msb> believe it only works inside of your gmail email account webpage | May 17 05:17 |
| oiaohm | msb_: I can see the attraction for home users of skype. | May 17 05:17 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | but the chat once it goes will pop up | May 17 05:17 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | I use it in firefox | May 17 05:17 |
| oiaohm | msb_: but business were we must use our own servers complete none at all. | May 17 05:17 |
| oiaohm | Google voice and video chat can be done from a client or web browser. | May 17 05:18 |
| oiaohm | Just like we do in business. | May 17 05:18 |
| oiaohm | msb_: If you have to install a client to use it. Someone is making the process too hard. | May 17 05:21 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Skype is a killer application at least to Ballmer. Consider what people use computers for, surfing, getting there email, chats. Just like MS bought Hotmail because it was the larger email service they could own, they now buy skype for the lockin. | May 17 05:22 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | just use it from the your gmail web page | May 17 05:23 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | I think the mepis link I posted says the same thing | May 17 05:24 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] What’s up with SUMO – May 16 http://blog.mozilla.com/sumo/2011/05/16/whats-up-with-sumo-may-16/ | May 17 05:24 | |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | Not sure that this is the really free alternative for now, or just another freerer alternative than skype. | May 17 05:25 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | will keep checking out the free ones though | May 17 05:25 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | How often have we heard people say I cannot use Linux because I need MS Office or Photoshop? In the future it might be Skype. | May 17 05:27 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | And that is why Ballmer bought Skype. | May 17 05:28 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] NSA CS Man: My Tracking Algorithm Was 'Twisted' By the Government http://ur1.ca/477fz | May 17 05:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] US Congress Tries To Cut Body Scanner Funding http://ur1.ca/477g7 | May 17 05:29 | |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | Well, I have ranted on to long, so I say GN and let you folks carry on your good work here. | May 17 05:30 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] RT @ubuntutwo NEW: "Disturbing Topics With @bkuhn & @fontana" podcast launches; sponsored by Canonical LTD | May 17 05:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] ♻ @fontana: NEW: "Disturbing Topics With @bkuhn & @fontana" podcast launches; sponsored by Canonical LTD | May 17 05:43 | |
| msb_ | OK, I have google gmail voice or whatever and it passed the audio tests. It insists on using video from my TV card, so that's what you'll see. Anybody want to talk with me? My ID is markbilk . | May 17 05:47 |
| msb_ | I had to download and install an rpm for this thing! | May 17 05:48 |
| oiaohm | A plugin | May 17 05:50 |
| oiaohm | Note I use that stuff for work. | May 17 05:51 |
| cubezzz | aha finally got the degree symbol in konsole | May 17 05:51 |
| oiaohm | msb_: Intime with the expands of html5 that will not be required. | May 17 05:51 |
| oiaohm | Really skype sold it self at the right time. | May 17 05:52 |
| oiaohm | Because the future is not what you call rosy for it. | May 17 05:52 |
| oiaohm | I just remember something important. | May 17 05:58 |
| oiaohm | The new mono company will not be protected by Novell and MS deal. | May 17 05:58 |
| msb_ | I had a test screen for google voice but now I can't get it back again. would someone please call me at ID markbilk? | May 17 06:01 |
| msb_ | oiaohm: Would you please call me in google-talk? ID markbilk | May 17 06:10 |
| oiaohm | msb_: Cannot. One of the thing I have to replace is mic. I run over it last night. | May 17 06:25 |
| oiaohm | This is also the reason why we have instant messing back up. | May 17 06:25 |
| msb_ | Did it scream? | May 17 06:25 |
| oiaohm | No | May 17 06:26 |
| oiaohm | I am not exactly light. | May 17 06:26 |
| oiaohm | I am 110 kg | May 17 06:26 |
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| oiaohm | So me on a chair with wheels running over something kinda equals dead item. | May 17 06:26 |
| msb_ | Chair temporary or permanent? | May 17 06:27 |
| msb_ | Probably nothing I can do to help, but I do know some alternative medicine. | May 17 06:29 |
| oiaohm | Just your normal deskchair on wheels | May 17 06:29 |
| msb_ | Oh, good! | May 17 06:30 |
| oiaohm | But I am not a light person. | May 17 06:30 |
| msb_ | Me 305lbs. I have a lot to lose! | May 17 06:30 |
| oiaohm | I have a higher than adverage bone denisty | May 17 06:30 |
| oiaohm | So I am not exactly that fat. | May 17 06:31 |
| msb_ | I should tell people that too! | May 17 06:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Amidst all og Giggsy's 12 times, we forget "That boy Scholesy, he's won it 10 times" too :) !MUFC | May 17 06:31 | |
| oiaohm | I have never broken a bone. | May 17 06:31 |
| oiaohm | And I am not going to. | May 17 06:32 |
| oiaohm | Side effect is I have great trouble swimming. | May 17 06:32 |
| msb_ | Sounds like a good plan! | May 17 06:32 |
| oiaohm | Because I sink. | May 17 06:32 |
| oiaohm | Any less than half my lungs full of air I am going to bottom. | May 17 06:32 |
| oiaohm | Yes kinda stuffs people up if I put on dive gear. | May 17 06:33 |
| oiaohm | Its not add weight to me its add floation. | May 17 06:33 |
| msb_ | I have some triple-stranded alien DNA. Was born in the year of the first A-bomb. | May 17 06:33 |
| cubezzz | that would just be mutated DNA not alien DNA :) | May 17 06:34 |
| oiaohm | Triple and quad strand does exist in nature. | May 17 06:34 |
| oiaohm | Just extreamly rare. | May 17 06:34 |
| msb_ | So I guess the antennae and tentacles are just a coincidence, eh? | May 17 06:35 |
| cubezzz | uv light can damage DNA | May 17 06:36 |
| cubezzz | x-rays too | May 17 06:36 |
| msb_ | Don't worry, we don't find you folks tasty except with black bean sauce, and even then we can take it or leave it alone. | May 17 06:37 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] what? I missed !heybuddy's birthday. #bad_dev https://launchpad.net/heybuddy/0.0/0.01 | May 17 06:38 | |
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| msb_ | But we actually have found a way to weaponize Linux. It really is a munition! Bwa-ha-ha!!! | May 17 06:38 |
| msb_ | Soon, we will give Gates and Ballmer an anal probe they will never forget! | May 17 06:41 |
| oiaohm | msb_: I have used Linux for a demolution control terminal. | May 17 06:41 |
| msb_ | Very good! | May 17 06:41 |
| cubezzz | lol | May 17 06:42 |
| cubezzz | and they deserve it too | May 17 06:42 |
| oiaohm | I have also seen it controlling a metal storm area dinial system. | May 17 06:42 |
| oiaohm | Yes the australian equal to a do not go mine field. | May 17 06:42 |
| oiaohm | Set of auto guns that target and fire on anything that enters the area. | May 17 06:43 |
| msb_ | Everyone should have those! Keep life interesting! | May 17 06:43 |
| msb_ | Whatever happened to those battle robots that used to be on TV? With the chainsaws and such. | May 17 06:45 |
| cubezzz | robot wars? | May 17 06:46 |
| cubezzz | don't think that's on the air any more | May 17 06:46 |
| msb_ | Yes! That was fun. Much better than "professional wrestling". | May 17 06:46 |
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| oiaohm | robot wars is not on air any more | May 17 07:01 |
| oiaohm | But there is still robot war comps | May 17 07:02 |
| oiaohm | http://botleague.net/events.asp So far none this year. | May 17 07:05 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Spent the evening re-designing and building http://www.jonobacon.org/ - pretty pleased with the results, more to do yet, but happy. :-) | May 17 07:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nisshh/@nisshh] I have become a bit of a fan of indie rock music lately, i just find it so cool. | May 17 07:31 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: jonobacon@home | At home with Jono Bacon, Community Manager and Author .::. Size~: 22.46 KB | May 17 07:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] I think, now a days requirement of php developer in Delhi is very High.. | May 17 07:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @rgunjan: Reading: A cheat sheet for App Store pricing http://bit.ly/kmk0UJ by @ttscoff | May 17 07:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Renegades Of Funk by Rage Against The Machines never stops being awesome - http://is.gd/1W5JcS | May 17 07:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @MeeGoConference: Have something new that you want to present at #MeeGoConf? Submit a Late Breaking News session: http://bit.ly/jbhhAn | May 17 07:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @MeeGoConference: Bringing a partner to #MeeGoConf? We have a wiki page to organize sightseeing during the day http://bit.ly/mrIHsR | May 17 07:38 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: A cheat sheet for App Store pricing - Brett Terpstra .::. Size~: 20.03 KB | May 17 07:38 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Second round of Call for Proposals: Late Breaking News | MeeGo Conference San Francisco May 23-25, 2011 .::. Size~: 12.93 KB | May 17 07:38 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @My_Maemo: Nepcal - Nepali Calendar for the N900: http://My-Maemo.com/?p=7256 #N900 #Maemo | May 17 07:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @My_Maemo: Gngeo - Neo Geo emulator and frontend for the Nokia N900: http://My-Maemo.com/?p=7257 #N900 #Maemo | May 17 07:41 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @goforbes28 thanks! | May 17 07:44 | |
| *jono has quit (Quit: Ex-Chat) | May 17 07:49 | |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/jdub/statuses/70299974197456896 http://twitter.com/keybuk/statuses/70305299457773569 | May 17 07:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @jdub: Wow, didn't realise Boycott Boy had turned the whole Banshee / GNOME / Canonical thing into a Novell / Mono conspiracy. *boggle* | May 17 07:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @keybuk: Gosh, I do hope that Boycott Novell don't find out that I'm the angel behind Xamarin's funding! #MonoForever | May 17 07:54 |
| schestowitz | Scott Remnant? | May 17 07:54 |
| schestowitz | Him too promoting mono? | May 17 07:54 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] At last I've got Unity to work on my desktop (GeForce FX5500) I think it's Unity 2D. None the less I love it #ubuntu #unity Thanks @sabdfl | May 17 07:56 | |
| oiaohm | Really the problem with Xamarins moves at this stage its all sounding like short term funding. | May 17 08:01 |
| oiaohm | So without long term funding progress will slow. | May 17 08:02 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: the big thing now is Xamarins does not have the Novell MS deal. | May 17 08:03 |
| MinceR | maybe they'll make another deal | May 17 08:13 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: well, he was a canonical employee... | May 17 08:16 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: I klnow | May 17 08:21 |
| schestowitz | He's in Google now IIRC | May 17 08:21 |
| schestowitz | "The people behind <a href="http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Mono" title="Mono">Mono</a> and <a href="http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Moonlight" title="Moonlight">Moonlight</a> recently lost their jobs. AttachMSFT was not interested. Bullying is Mono modus operandi and to popularise .NET is their goal." | May 17 08:21 |
| schestowitz | "As expected, nobody picked Mono up, so the developers try to regroup in <a href="http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/De-Icaza-announces-new-Mono-centric-company-Xamarin-1244119.html" title="De Icaza announces new Mono-centric company - Xamarin">a type of post-Ximian order</a>. They register a domain while masking identity, just like Microsoft lobbyists ([cref 6803 e.g. Zuck/ACT]) often do because there is something rogue to hide. | May 17 08:21 |
| schestowitz | Well, guess where the Mono cultists got its privacy? A company in Bellevue, apparently. That's where a lot of the Microsoft executives live. It's not Boston or Provo. How come? Maybe it's a bit like Outercurve, which needs to pretend to be isolated from Microsoft [[cref 40073 1], [cref 39657 2]] and originally [cref 18050 had Miguel de Icaza on board]. From the domain's <code>whois</code> lookup:" | May 17 08:21 |
| schestowitz | "We need to keep a close eye on whoever funds Xamarin. Previously, those people did damage to SUSE. The .NET mentality they have promoted in SUSE carried on in the planet recently..." | May 17 08:22 |
| schestowitz | I am doing a post | May 17 08:22 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: De Icaza announces new Mono-centric company - Xamarin - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 40.81 KB | May 17 08:23 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Mono Company Registered Near #Microsoft (Bellevue) http://is.gd/q38tPX #dotnet #novell #moonlight | May 17 08:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Mono Company Registered Near #Microsoft (Bellevue) http://is.gd/q38tPX #swpats #gnu #linux #trojan | May 17 08:24 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Working on news for !LO.... | May 17 08:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] I remember thinking they borked PhotoShop ♺ @fabsh: @alisonchaiken Ahahahaha! Yeah.... and Creative Suite isn't bloated??? Come on.... | May 17 08:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] 19.4% of (EU)GDP is ICT related. A whopping 660 B € - Blatchford from OpenForumEurope at #dorsclus | May 17 08:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] (1) @sandervdmeijs: indien je Unity nog eens op je netbook wilt proberen, adviseer ik je Unity2d eens te installeren. | May 17 08:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[firefoxmilestones/@firefoxmilestones] #Firefox4 reached 165 million downloads on 2011-05-17 07:27 UTC | May 17 08:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] (2)sandervdmeijs: ik heb het nu op mijn desktop draaien (begon te zeuren dat ik niet over de hardware beschik om Unity te draaien). | May 17 08:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @fabsh and anti money forgery code too! | May 17 08:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] (2) @sandervdmeijs: heb het nu op mijn desktop draaien (Ubuntu begon te zeuren dat ik niet over de hardware beschik om Unity te draaien). | May 17 08:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] PhotoShop restricts creativity with anti-money forgery too ♺ @fabsh I think Photoshop now officially has more DRM than image-editing code... | May 17 08:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] Google Adopts Arduino for Android@Home http://lxnews.org/2011/05/17/google-adopts-arduino/ | May 17 08:34 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] (3) @sandervdmeijs: GeForce FX5500 met Nvidia Binary Blob 173. Verschil met 3D versie is marginaal. Have Fun ;-) | May 17 08:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] It’s All Down to Patents Now http://is.gd/S9mTw4 #swpats #bedrock #linux #groklaw #yahoo #uspto #sco | May 17 08:38 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] It’s All Down to Patents Now http://is.gd/S9mTw4 #monopoly #microsoft | May 17 08:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Another piece of Gnome being chipped out of #Ubuntu: http://outl.ws/12 !lo | May 17 08:39 | |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: ‘LightDM’ to replace GDM login screen in Ubuntu 11.10 .::. Size~: 94.4 KB | May 17 08:40 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] Lubuntu Now Official Ubuntu Derivative http://lxnews.org/2011/05/17/lubuntu-now-official/ | May 17 08:48 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @lxnews hope that doesn't mean LXDE code submissions have mandatory !disturbing CAA to #Canonical :) | May 17 08:51 | |
| cubezzz | wow, that was longer than I thought, 24 mins | May 17 08:57 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] ♻@mirkoboehm: Newsflash: The world is not desperately waiting for .NET for Android and iOS. Sorry, Miguel. > Too much Kool-Aid, I presume ;) | May 17 08:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @fabsh sorry? was a bit of a stab at #harm-ony style CAAs :) Imagine if they convinced LXDE to become Canonical sponsored :) | May 17 09:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] Tor Project Decides to Fork Firefox http://lxnews.org/2011/05/17/tor-project-to-fork-firefox/ | May 17 09:08 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] GNU Mediagoblin Project Launches http://lxnews.org/2011/05/17/gnu-mediagoblin-launches/ | May 17 09:18 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Boot #Linux In Your Browser - http://bit.ly/kzQHaA lovely bit of geekery | May 17 09:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] @fabsh the non-appearance so far, of any flame-fests (blog posts, identi.ca discussions) related to this topic has disappointed me ;) | May 17 09:19 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] @fabsh yay ! just saw the link to mjg59 's blogpost :) | May 17 09:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Blake Krikorian's Next Act Is Live: $99 Home Automation App For Android - http://bit.ly/lhEMmK key point: switched from #iPhone to #android | May 17 09:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Announcing Xamarin - http://bit.ly/jDNS86 open source never dies (what happened to #mono...) | May 17 09:24 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Blake Krikorian’s Next Act Is Live: $99 Home Automation App For Android | paidContent .::. Size~: 38.48 KB | May 17 09:24 |
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| schestowitz | Blech | May 17 09:25 |
| schestowitz | It's not open source | May 17 09:25 |
| schestowitz | It's open core Microsoft ware | May 17 09:25 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Did #LimeWire Shutdown Increase Music Sales? Part II - http://bit.ly/mcTWF8 probably not | May 17 09:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] LyX 2.0 Released http://lxnews.org/2011/05/17/lyx-2-0-released/ | May 17 09:27 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Groklaw correctly points out that some years ago there was a sense of urgency as #Linux was under attack. But it won, now we can relax. | May 17 09:28 | |
| MinceR | geekings | May 17 09:29 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] HTTP Protocol for RDF Stores http://ow.ly/1cHTsb | May 17 09:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻@mirkoboehm: Newsflash: The world is not desperately waiting for .NET for Android and iOS. Sorry, Miguel. > Too much Kool-Aid, I presume ;) | May 17 09:31 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] Cool article #Lx http://bit.ly/mPO2aM | May 17 09:33 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Visa Digital Wallet Accelerates Mobile-Payments Race | Epicenter | Wired.com .::. Size~: 59.86 KB | May 17 09:33 |
| MinceR | miguel is desperately waiting for a job at m$, though :> | May 17 09:33 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] My new router looks so cool http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkBZ6y-1Jxo | May 17 09:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Leahy’s Protect IP Act: Why Internet content wars will never end - http://onforb.es/iREf7P surprisingly deep analysis (v @mmasnick) | May 17 09:36 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] Google Pushes More "Chromebooks" http://lxnews.org/2011/05/17/google-pushes-more-chromebooks/ | May 17 09:38 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] French 3 Strikes Suspended Due To Anti-Piracy Security Alert - http://bit.ly/mlIqs1 the French farce continues #hadopi | May 17 09:39 | |
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| cubezzz | new episode: | May 17 09:40 |
| cubezzz | http://cubexyz.blogspot.com/2011/05/tech-blog-episode-11-retrocomputing.html | May 17 09:40 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ES: Exclusiva: Las Maquinaciones de Microsoft de Patentes de las Que Nadie Sabe Nada http://is.gd/ifHWde #microsoft #apple #swpats | May 17 09:41 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Knowledge as Sacrilege: The Criminalizing of Links and Search Engines - http://bit.ly/jPNtST Imhotep, Boris Karloff and #censorship | May 17 09:46 | |
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| schestowitz | cubezzz: added | May 17 09:49 |
| cubezzz | thanks dude | May 17 09:49 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @tante: Patente sind super! http://ur1.ca/478rw (Ich muss immer lachen, wenn SAP auf den Sack bekommt, die kleinen Freuden im Leben) | May 17 09:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Launch of the German Open Source Integration Initiative - http://bit.ly/mabXGe "modular ‘stack’ solution for #opensource business solutions" | May 17 09:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Los Defensa de los Cárteles de Patentes vs. La Total Supresión de Patentes de Software http://is.gd/jmoNpQ #dpl #swpats #oin #linux | May 17 09:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] Perl 5.14 Released http://lxnews.org/2011/05/17/perl-5-14-released/ | May 17 09:49 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Software-Konzern: SAP zu millionenschwerer Patentstrafe verurteilt - SPIEGEL ONLINE - Nachrichten - Wirtschaft .::. Size~: 64.43 KB | May 17 09:49 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Craigslist Adopting #MongoDB - http://rww.to/lTwfYu another loss for #mysql? | May 17 09:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @fabsh I know... | May 17 09:53 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] Matthew Garrett on LightDM http://lxnews.org/2011/05/17/matthew-garrett-on-lightdm/ | May 17 10:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] !lo ♺ @lxnews: Matthew Garrett on LightDM http://lxnews.org/2011/05/17/matthew-garrett-on-lightdm/ | May 17 10:03 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Ofcom chief: DE Act kick-off delayed by a year - http://bit.ly/mqJmPH always wrong, increasingly irrelevant #deact #copyright | May 17 10:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @jonaso Our @fscons teams need help. Check out http://2tu.us/3c0b to see if you can join as an assistant. | May 17 10:06 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @glynmoody Knowledge as Sacrilege: The Criminalizing of Links and Search Engines - http://bit.ly/jPNtST Imhotep, Boris Karloff and #c ... | May 17 10:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !Firefox 4 races further ahead of IE9 http://bit.ly/jN1xhA | May 17 10:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Geolocating #Bribery - http://rww.to/kHnB8M novel, certainly, but useful? #android | May 17 10:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Mythbuntu: MythTV 0.24.1 has been released http://bit.ly/iwVhar | May 17 10:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] My new #Ubuntu-flavoured ThinkPad is computing heaven - http://bit.ly/l4cdYp nice upgeat piece from @doctorow | May 17 10:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Microsoft is Bad for the Economy http://is.gd/uuyjNq #finance #swpats #skype #nokia | May 17 10:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Now have @jordanc and my host's support team looking into why Lxhica gets errors for remote connections with identi.ca *fingers-crossed* | May 17 10:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Microsoft is Bad for the Economy http://is.gd/uuyjNq #tax #us | May 17 10:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #China’s Internet Population Powers Ahead of US, Hits 477 Million - http://onforb.es/l29EVo serious numbers | May 17 10:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] RT @mdz Weirdest idea of the morning (so far): an x86 PC emulator written in Javascript: http://bit.ly/kaBnfo (via @colinianking) | May 17 10:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] My new Ubuntu-flavoured ThinkPad is computing heaven http://is.gd/LSQbDM v. @glynmoody #gnu #linux #freedom | May 17 10:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] The new Xing is like Facebook in green? http://whatsnew.xing.com/en/ | May 17 10:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !Canonical will keep changing things in !Ubuntu http://bit.ly/kMrQZW but how long before we have #Gnomebuntu? Probably the way it should be | May 17 10:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] 72.2% not basing software choice on TCO study. Dr. Maha Shaikh at #dorscluc | May 17 10:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @glynmoody Leahy’s Protect IP Act: Why Internet content wars will never end - http://onforb.es/iREf7P surprisingly deep analysis (v @ ... | May 17 10:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Which OSS saved your organization money? Numbers are all in the 70-80% range. Wow. #dorscluc | May 17 10:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Custom !Unity launcher to boot in another OS http://bit.ly/liGjpb | May 17 10:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Biggest reason for FOSS: Reduce Vendor lock-in on #1, Value fur money #2, Open Standards on #3. Impressive results #dorscluc | May 17 10:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Uh-huh. Now we know a meltdown *did* happen in #Fukushima. I remember I said that on the first day of the catastrophe. Colour me surprised. | May 17 10:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Dr. Maha Shaikh: "Framing the Conundrum of Total Cost of Ownership of Open Source Software" + Q&A at #dorscluc - really interesting content. | May 17 10:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] BTW - follow @open_sourcing - she is presenting ATM at #dorscluc with really interesting numbers of FOSS TCO | May 17 10:28 | |
| MinceR | http://www.dilbert.com/1997-06-07/ | May 17 10:28 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Mozilla force-upgrading !Firefox 3.5 users, new Aurora channel now available9 to 5 Mac|Christian Zibreg http://bit.ly/jJM7jB | May 17 10:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Jono Bacon: Explaining !UDS Sponsorship http://goo.gl/df0qv !ubuntu | May 17 10:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Phone users' location should be protected data, say watchdogs OUT-LAW News http://bit.ly/kZ70gW | May 17 10:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #WebUpd8: #Zeitgeist Activity Log Manager Now Available In A !PPA http://goo.gl/jRk6F !u | May 17 10:31 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] When you hear the word "mono" and the word "angle" in the same sentence you just know someone is deluded or just a good liar. | May 17 10:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] MT @WiredUK: 9flats in UK, lets you rent your spare room to the web http://j.mp/kszLdI by @Olivia_Solon « This won't work. So many reasons | May 17 10:34 | |
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| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/#!/NOVELL "Making IT Work As One" | May 17 10:35 |
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| schestowitz | LOL | May 17 10:35 |
| schestowitz | as Microsoft | May 17 10:36 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] UK #communications law review - http://bit.ly/iv4t53 underpinned by "wider public interest": yeah, if you believe that... (v @copyrightgirl) | May 17 10:36 | |
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| MinceR | One Microsoft Way | May 17 10:36 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] So will Mark Webbink now wear teh red dress? #groklaw ;-) | May 17 10:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Chuck Short: The big !UDS-O http://goo.gl/8jna7 !u | May 17 10:39 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Reasons I'm Healthy - http://bit.ly/lZ3kqZ wonderful tribute to the UK's irreplaceable NHS | May 17 10:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #France in 'crisis situation' as drought deepens - http://bit.ly/iHn36p just the weather, non? #climatechange | May 17 10:41 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @glynmoody: The Reasons I'm Healthy - http://bit.ly/lZ3kqZ wonderful tribute to the UK's irreplaceable #NHS | May 17 10:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @mlinksva 80% of hackers agree: abolish all software patents http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2552740 | May 17 10:43 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Open Services Innovation - http://bit.ly/jWXSqp basically, applying #redhat's business model elsewhere #openinnovation | May 17 10:44 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @ludost "We need librarians more than we ever did. What we don't need are mere clerks who guard dead paper." @thisissethsblog (via @ ... | May 17 10:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] CC @methoddan ♺ @corenominal: New blog post: Hello from France - http://muppy.org/2m | May 17 10:48 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] RT @lxnews Google Pushes More "Chromebooks" http://lxnews.org/2011/05/17/google-pushes-more-chromebooks/ | May 17 10:59 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Gibraltars geleugnete Katastrophe - http://bit.ly/luqTFa schändlich #uk #gibraltar | May 17 11:03 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Der Spiegel is making me sick. They totally bought the city's story about #Duisburg21 and blame the police. And Sauerland is still major. | May 17 11:04 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] I do not understand how people still think Der Spiegel is good journalism. It's been utter crap since Leinemann left. | May 17 11:08 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] http://www.ftrain.com/nanolaw.html "funny" in an unsettling way #privacy, #fictional #dystopia | May 17 11:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Video: Microsoft, Which Sues Linux, Infiltrates Another Linux Conference and Gets Heckled http://is.gd/QfuHbv #microsoft #linuxsolutions | May 17 11:18 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Video: Microsoft, Which Sues Linux, Infiltrates Another Linux Conference and Gets Heckled http://is.gd/QfuHbv #GCUSQUAD #linux #swpats | May 17 11:19 | |
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| schestowitz | Re: You Don't have Mail | May 17 11:20 |
| schestowitz | > Apologies if I sent this already: | May 17 11:20 |
| schestowitz | > | May 17 11:20 |
| schestowitz | > "The problem isn't e-mail, it's Microsoft Exchange" | May 17 11:20 |
| schestowitz | > http://bsdly.blogspot.com/2011/02/problem-isnt-email-its-microsoft.html | May 17 11:20 |
| schestowitz | > | May 17 11:20 |
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| schestowitz | > He talks about the poor usability. I found the high rate of lost and | May 17 11:20 |
| schestowitz | > delayed messages intolerable. | May 17 11:20 |
| schestowitz | Several years ago I still used one mail account that relied on Exchange. | May 17 11:20 |
| schestowitz | http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2006/01/09/exchange-servers-failure/ | May 17 11:20 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] http://music.conniptions.org -- these are good people, buy their music! | May 17 11:21 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] In a bid to stay trim, no cheese n bacon baguette today. Instead wife gave me a tupperware with about a kilo of spaghetti *facepalm* | May 17 11:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] !sr Lol! Even the #procrastination tag is getting spammed :P I'm going to make a #cupoftea instead of silencing them :) #irony | May 17 11:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #PuppyLinux : Top Dog of the Lightweight Distros http://is.gd/Ppvo3G #gnu #linux | May 17 11:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] RT @bognarandras "Design/Whiteboards/Menus - GNOME Live!" http://ur1.ca/479ah | May 17 11:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Some colleagues of mine began listening to !techbytes and that's nice. I know the same goes for @openbytes | May 17 11:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Almost 4,000 non-cached audio downloads of !techbytes in the past two days alone. | May 17 11:31 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] I love the guitar on this song: http://music.conniptions.org/track/turnaround -- reminds me of !Knopfler a bit | May 17 11:33 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Not Saving but Building Bletchley Park - http://bit.ly/lm0hY7 "It is official! Bletchley Park is saved!!" great news (v @jackschofield) | May 17 11:38 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @vk7hse: http://howfuckedismydatabase.com/ | May 17 11:41 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 6 Important Changes in Next #Ubuntu 11.10 Oneiric Ocelot http://is.gd/m7nMd2 everyone wonders about #unity now... mostly negative feedback | May 17 11:43 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 9 #Slackware Based Live Distributions http://is.gd/yEtsKM Slackware: Remember your roots http://is.gd/rkJlbj #gnu #linux | May 17 11:44 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @methoddan: We have an early rescheduled Linux Outlaws today. 2pm UK. Not ideal time for people at work I know but if you're free come | May 17 11:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Firefox 6 Gets URL Bar Upgrade http://is.gd/tYswnM I'm still on 3.6 and they talk about 6... | May 17 11:46 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The #Mono #scientology -like cult is out at full force this week, berating people like me privately and publicly. #microsoft #thugs #dotnot | May 17 11:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] If #dotnot was really that good, it would not need #mono people acting like its #pr agents. #java does not need such tactics, it sells self. | May 17 11:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Mozilla Plans End to #Firefox 3.5 With Firefox 5 Beta on Horizon http://is.gd/aBtdI5 "company is also working on phasing out Firefox 3.5." | May 17 11:49 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Mozilla Plans End to Firefox 3.5 With Firefox 5 Beta on Horizon | News & Opinion | PCMag.com .::. Size~: 84.33 KB | May 17 11:49 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Open-source software, #Linux to save Santos $2.5m http://is.gd/wnXyA8 "by using open-source software and Linux-based systems." | May 17 11:51 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] makeuseof.com is the latest site to have become totally inaccessible to people without JavaScript, following footsteps of Gawker #disturbing | May 17 11:53 | |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/73686923 http://identi.ca/notice/73686921 | May 17 11:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @silner (silner)'s status on Tuesday, 17-May-11 10:48:49 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz .. overrated. Now OpenBSD; that was painful, for me. They need cleverer users than me :) | May 17 11:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @silner (silner)'s status on Tuesday, 17-May-11 10:48:48 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz I tried slackware. There was nothing wrong with it and the Slackbuilds are areally smart idea. Rumours of its "pain" are .. | May 17 11:55 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @graziano Dropbox employees can access YOUR files! When will you learn? Keep your data on YOUR !freedombox !fsf !lp !lpit http://ur1. ... | May 17 11:56 | |
| schestowitz | openbsd for desktop!? | May 17 11:56 |
| oiaohm | I have used openbsd as a desktop | May 17 11:57 |
| oiaohm | Mostly because I was too lazy to format it. | May 17 11:57 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] @richslxh If you reply to this post, you should see the 500 error. | May 17 11:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RD @vinc17 When pasting a URL with garbage in #Firefox address bar, a search is done on Google. Bad for security as a URL can contain .. | May 17 11:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RD .. private info < That's a good point and I've not seen it made before | May 17 11:58 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] RT @HNPbrussel: Tweet je vragen voor @NeelieKroesEU met #askneelie, morgen om 2 uur krijg je antwoord in haar Twitterspreekuur. #Digital ... | May 17 11:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] This version of !identicurse (updated in Fedora 14 testing this am) seems a little more crashy, especially when posting long (split) posts | May 17 11:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] RT @carlchenet Nagstamon 0.9.6.1, a Nagios&co status monitor for the desktop, is now available in !Debian Sid http://packages.debian.org ... | May 17 12:11 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The Case Of #LibreOffice And CD Space Restriction At UDS-O http://is.gd/RyKzTu Canonical should get rid of #Microsoft #Mono and not #OOo | May 17 12:13 | |
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| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/73688193 | May 17 12:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @silner (silner)'s status on Tuesday, 17-May-11 11:06:00 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz well I tried it - I use OpenBSD for my file server and that was easy - ,aybe it's just not designed for DT use? | May 17 12:14 |
| schestowitz | hi, Real-Rusty|AFK | May 17 12:14 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Now, a technology-laden Robot that does all household work http://is.gd/htAsna yes, it runs that typical OS that every robot runs. #linux | May 17 12:14 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/fcassia/status/70443060391190529 | May 17 12:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @fcassia: @schestowitz I beleive its called Javascript, not to be confused with #Java :) | May 17 12:14 |
| schestowitz | indeed | May 17 12:14 |
| schestowitz | Does anybody here know how to check the registration details of a US-based company, such as the Mono startup? | May 17 12:16 |
| schestowitz | is there some sites where one scan look it up? | May 17 12:16 |
| schestowitz | http://identicurse.net/ | May 17 12:21 |
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| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/73688880 | May 17 12:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @silner (silner)'s status on Tuesday, 17-May-11 11:15:08 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz I thought they were just swapping out OO for Libreoffice? | May 17 12:21 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !Mageia abroad http://is.gd/eYnUbq "...he was a representative of RosaLabs, the company who invented this new menu style! :)" | May 17 12:21 | |
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| schestowitz | They have also pondered excluding LO/OOO by default, to make room for what I consider to be junk, like mono runtime | May 17 12:21 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Quelitu #Linux http://is.gd/CvcggG "This is based on Lubuntu -- Ubuntu with the LXDE desktop environment" | May 17 12:23 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @jontheniceguy: As heard on theaudiopodcast.co.uk - Skype + Microsoft .Net = Sky.net? UHOH! Terminator was only a few months out!!! #lo | May 17 12:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #MythTV 0.24.1 has been released http://is.gd/oL4xPa busting the myth of #gnu #linux not being good for entertainment | May 17 12:24 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @nybill: I hope you're not going to be effected by these flood waters they are spilling into Louisiana, @jonkulp. | May 17 12:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Goodbye Gnome 2! http://is.gd/82IbVk #gnome3 looks rather good. #KDE 4 is like a dream. | May 17 12:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Gnome 3 Menu Mockups http://is.gd/4IIvOU | May 17 12:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] When I speak to friends who still stick with KDE3 it usually turns out that they just don't know *how* to customise KDE4. It's possible. | May 17 12:28 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] One of the useful features in KDE: window-specific settings, e.g. always initially open windows of type /X/ in desktop /Y/ with size /Z/... | May 17 12:29 | |
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| oiaohm | schestowitz: just did my first check Xamarin does not have a trademark registration yet. | May 17 12:30 |
| schestowitz | what else can be checked? | May 17 12:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Most ppl: half of all software spend over next 5 years will be FOSS http://is.gd/YNJO5R Microsoft tries spinning it (more on that later) | May 17 12:31 | |
| schestowitz | I expect to maybe seen a name of the backer | May 17 12:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Survey: 56% expect that more than half of all software spend over next 5 years will be open source | ZDNet .::. Size~: 122.83 KB | May 17 12:31 |
| schestowitz | Like sometimes we'd find Microsoft Licensing people | May 17 12:31 |
| schestowitz | In Novell's deal for example | May 17 12:31 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/73689495 | May 17 12:32 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @silner (silner)'s status on Tuesday, 17-May-11 11:23:44 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz I don't think !LibreOffice should be left off the !ubuntu CD - defintely not | May 17 12:32 |
| schestowitz | People in Africa get Ubuntu *because* it gives them stuff like office suite where Internet infrastructure is poor. Same for GIMP. | May 17 12:33 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/73689814 | May 17 12:33 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @silner (silner)'s status on Tuesday, 17-May-11 11:27:10 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz I must admit I still prefer Gnome 2 - which is gonna give an issue eventually - likely solved by moving to KDE or Xfce - .. | May 17 12:33 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/73689819 | May 17 12:33 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @silner (silner)'s status on Tuesday, 17-May-11 11:27:14 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz .. choice is absolutely necessary sometimes :) | May 17 12:33 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/73689882 | May 17 12:33 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @agentsmith's status on Tuesday, 17-May-11 11:28:02 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Is there any1 still using KDE 3 ??? | May 17 12:33 |
| schestowitz | cubezzz and msb_ from the IRC channel do | May 17 12:33 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: trademarks for usa search is here http://www.uspto.gov/ | May 17 12:34 |
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| schestowitz | oiaohm: is there no other form/registry for companies? | May 17 12:34 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: I have done http://www.sec.gov/edgar.shtml as well no filling here. | May 17 12:34 |
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| schestowitz | Why won't the funders be identified? | May 17 12:34 |
| schestowitz | They often take pride in givign capital | May 17 12:34 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: My problem is I don't know where the usa equal to australian ABR. Australian bussness registery | May 17 12:35 |
| schestowitz | Yeah | May 17 12:36 |
| schestowitz | That's why I asked | May 17 12:36 |
| schestowitz | But maybe it's premature to check | May 17 12:36 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The #Mono company has no Patent and Trademark Office mentions, let alone SEC or any other form of paperwork. Why is the funder a secret? | May 17 12:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Microsoft used #Novell 2 funnel money into #mono development and other such Microsoft-favourable projects http://is.gd/JZ6Ttv #ooxml #bribe | May 17 12:43 | |
| schestowitz | http://mrpogson.com/2011/05/16/passing-the-torch-at-groklaw/ | May 17 12:43 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: o crud. http://www.sba.gov/content/register-your-fictitious-or-doing-business-dba-name | May 17 12:44 |
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| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/73690610 | May 17 12:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @silner (silner)'s status on Tuesday, 17-May-11 11:38:01 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz I agree. I personally don't use OO or LO, preferring Abiword and Lyx - but then I have the bandwidth to get whatever .. | May 17 12:44 |
| schestowitz | Same here | May 17 12:44 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: I just pulled up how to register a company in the usa. | May 17 12:44 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/73690613 | May 17 12:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @silner (silner)'s status on Tuesday, 17-May-11 11:38:02 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz .. software I want - taking large apps from the CD isn't fair | May 17 12:44 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: each god darn state is different. | May 17 12:44 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: and some don't require it at all. | May 17 12:44 |
| schestowitz | They ought to survey the userbase. When they removed GIMP over 70% of those polled were against. Canonical ignored, put Mono app in. | May 17 12:44 |
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| schestowitz | oiaohm: typical | May 17 12:45 |
| schestowitz | Fragmented nation | May 17 12:45 |
| schestowitz | Try finding out in Bellevue Washington | May 17 12:45 |
| schestowitz | Or Boston Mass. | May 17 12:45 |
| oiaohm | Australia we have 3 centeral registrations to check. | May 17 12:45 |
| schestowitz | It'll be one of those two states | May 17 12:46 |
| oiaohm | Stock exchange. | May 17 12:46 |
| oiaohm | ABN and ABR | May 17 12:46 |
| schestowitz | Miguel and chums live in Boston but travel to Microsoft a lot | May 17 12:46 |
| oiaohm | Boston is Massachusetts | May 17 12:47 |
| oiaohm | Massachusetts requires anyone who is conducting business under an alias (i.e., any name other than their own), including corporations, to file a business certificate ("doing business as") in the city or town where the business is principally headquartered. | May 17 12:48 |
| oiaohm | Nice no searchable index. schestowitz | May 17 12:48 |
| *hemimaniac has quit (Client Quit) | May 17 12:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @jeremyscahill: RT @marcambinder: The AP's Kim Dozier has what appears to be a copy of the UBL raid hotwash. http://t.co/Ka5eyyw | May 17 12:49 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Sources: Raiders knew mission a one-shot deal - Navy News | News from Afghanistan & Iraq - Navy Times .::. Size~: 35.65 KB | May 17 12:49 |
| oiaohm | Washington does have a index | May 17 12:50 |
| schestowitz | nice | May 17 12:51 |
| schestowitz | but must they have registered it by now? | May 17 12:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺@schestowitz The #Mono company has no Patent and Trademark Office mentions, SEC or any other form of paperwork. Why is the funder a secret? | May 17 12:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @schestowitz: Goodbye Gnome 2! http://is.gd/82IbVk #gnome3 looks rather good. #KDE 4 is like a dream. | May 17 12:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @schestowitz: #MythTV 0.24.1 has been released http://is.gd/oL4xPa busting the myth of #gnu #linux not being good for entertainment | May 17 12:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @schestowitz: #Quelitu #Linux http://is.gd/CvcggG "This is based on Lubuntu -- Ubuntu with the LXDE desktop environment" | May 17 12:51 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: It’s A Binary World 2.0 » Goodbye Gnome 2! .::. Size~: 102.26 KB | May 17 12:51 |
| schestowitz | After two weeks | May 17 12:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: MythTV 0.24.1 has been released | Mythbuntu .::. Size~: 15.65 KB | May 17 12:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Goodbye, Microsoft®: Quelitu Linux .::. Size~: 18.67 KB | May 17 12:51 |
| schestowitz | And if so, will the site DB have been updated? | May 17 12:51 |
| oiaohm | No list in Washington | May 17 12:52 |
| oiaohm | And washingon is like australia the record is with their tax department. | May 17 12:52 |
| oiaohm | I would guess registered in Massachusetts | May 17 12:52 |
| oiaohm | And failed to take out the require trademark. | May 17 12:52 |
| oiaohm | In theory someone else could take out the trademark and shut them down. | May 17 12:53 |
| oiaohm | Basically what has been done is legally risky and I am not supprised from the lead developer of mono schestowitz | May 17 12:53 |
| oiaohm | Before annoyance a trading name to the world you really should hold the trademark. | May 17 12:54 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Another reason to run !google chrome over Chromium http://bellard.org/jslinux/ | May 17 12:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @fabsh "almost all players are geeks" could be a more valid proposition than "all the geeks play it" :) | May 17 12:54 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Javascript PC Emulator .::. Size~: 0.52 KB | May 17 12:54 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/73691204 | May 17 12:57 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @agentsmith's status on Tuesday, 17-May-11 11:46:22 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz How do they deal with updates is what I wonder. | May 17 12:57 |
| schestowitz | KDE3... | May 17 12:57 |
| schestowitz | cubezzz: maybe you know? | May 17 12:57 |
| schestowitz | Trinity? | May 17 12:57 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: I think you missed something. | May 17 12:57 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: The date the domain name was taken out. May 15, 2011 08:45:11 PM | May 17 12:58 |
| schestowitz | wow | May 17 12:58 |
| schestowitz | So recent | May 17 12:58 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: Exactly what day was the mono project lead fired. | May 17 12:58 |
| schestowitz | 3rd | May 17 12:58 |
| schestowitz | irc | May 17 12:58 |
| schestowitz | iirc | May 17 12:58 |
| schestowitz | 2nd maybe | May 17 12:58 |
| oiaohm | So why so many days delay. | May 17 12:59 |
| oiaohm | To holding the domain name. | May 17 12:59 |
| schestowitz | let me try betterwhois | May 17 12:59 |
| oiaohm | http://www.enom.com/whois/default.aspx | May 17 12:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Whois Lookup - Domain Whois Search, Availability, and Information | eNom .::. Size~: 23.07 KB | May 17 12:59 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: probably all those days were spent groveling at m$ :> | May 17 12:59 |
| oiaohm | I am reading the registars of the domain record. | May 17 12:59 |
| MinceR | that or coming up with another x* name | May 17 13:00 |
| schestowitz | http://www.betterwhois.com/bwhois.cgi?verification=7784&domain=xamarin.com&submitbtn=Continue | May 17 13:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: BetterWhois.com: Security Validation .::. Size~: 1.12 KB | May 17 13:01 |
| schestowitz | doesn't reveal additional info | May 17 13:01 |
| schestowitz | " | May 17 13:01 |
| schestowitz | Whois Privacy Protection Service, Inc. | May 17 13:01 |
| schestowitz | Whois Agent (swqjdfydd@whoisprivacyprotect.com) | May 17 13:01 |
| schestowitz | +1.4252740657 | May 17 13:01 |
| schestowitz | Fax: +1.4259744730 | May 17 13:01 |
| schestowitz | " | May 17 13:01 |
| schestowitz | It's a proxy | May 17 13:02 |
| schestowitz | Their site seems bogus http://whoisprivacyprotect.com/ | May 17 13:02 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Sex Video | Expired Domain Name | Bbw Chat | Whois Privacy at Whoisprivacyprotect.com .::. Size~: 8.32 KB | May 17 13:02 |
| schestowitz | like parked domain | May 17 13:02 |
| schestowitz | " | May 17 13:02 |
| schestowitz | * Asian Girls | May 17 13:02 |
| schestowitz | * Privacy | May 17 13:02 |
| schestowitz | * Expired Domain Name | May 17 13:02 |
| schestowitz | * Domain Registrar | May 17 13:02 |
| schestowitz | three business people | May 17 13:02 |
| schestowitz | " | May 17 13:02 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: I know it does not reveil that much information. | May 17 13:04 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: Project lead of mono makes out that he was trying to break mono away for over a year. | May 17 13:05 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: so why did a domain/trademark need taking out at the last min. | May 17 13:05 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/73691351 | May 17 13:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @agentsmith's status on Tuesday, 17-May-11 11:48:16 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Jos Portvliet dented these "news" yesterday, and I replied to him: We all know where the money i$ coming from... | May 17 13:05 |
| schestowitz | LOL | May 17 13:05 |
| schestowitz | yeah, I saw Jos denting it | May 17 13:05 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/73692288 | May 17 13:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @agentsmith's status on Tuesday, 17-May-11 12:00:48 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz I would like to try it, just to see how Qt4 behaves with Qt3 running the show. | May 17 13:06 |
| oiaohm | http://www.mono-project.com/Main_Page Also take a close look at the moonlight logo. schestowitz | May 17 13:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Main Page - Mono .::. Size~: 12.36 KB | May 17 13:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The service that #xamarin .com is registered via http://is.gd/9lP82v is a non-existent Whois Agent with a sex site (whoisprivacyprotect.com) | May 17 13:06 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: BetterWhois.com: Security Validation .::. Size~: 1.12 KB | May 17 13:06 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: they don't even have there own logo yet either. | May 17 13:07 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: little bit of observence is showing major problems. | May 17 13:08 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The company that carries #Microsoft #Mono was announced just one day after the domain was registered.It's all rather odd http://is.gd/q38tPX | May 17 13:08 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Mono Company Registered Near Microsoft (Bellevue) | Techrights .::. Size~: 93.42 KB | May 17 13:08 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: If you where breaking away you would think names and icons for a split away company would be designed. | May 17 13:08 |
| oiaohm | Particularly if this was planned 12 months go. | May 17 13:08 |
| oiaohm | To me all the evidence points to a last min attempt to save tails. | May 17 13:09 |
| oiaohm | The angel funding might be the employees own seperation pay. | May 17 13:09 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] !Miners I guess we have to wait for the host people to wake up before the server comes back.... :/ | May 17 13:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @fabsh freedom !neckbeards, please ;) | May 17 13:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[kernellogauthor/@kernellogauthor] Sigh, @smithnigelw is right, I meant pg 23 in http://red.ht/kkwLnv (mixed up the URLs and Page :-/; sorry for that); fixed tweet follows | May 17 13:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[kernellogauthor/@kernellogauthor] "Majority of -rt to be upstream by 2.6.42" (Pg 23 in http://red.ht/kkwLnv - MRG PDF from #redhat summit) Wonder if tglx and mingo know that? | May 17 13:09 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting application/pdf type | May 17 13:09 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting application/pdf type | May 17 13:09 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: I know | May 17 13:10 |
| schestowitz | Miguel has a lot of money | May 17 13:10 |
| schestowitz | they still look for more funding | May 17 13:10 |
| schestowitz | And they might actually find it | May 17 13:11 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] If #Mono gets packaged up as a company, then it can be acquired.Double-dipping the #Ximian "red carpet"? http://is.gd/XObj15 #novell #dotnot | May 17 13:11 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Stafford Masie Presentation at CITI Forum: Transcript | Techrights .::. Size~: 116.22 KB | May 17 13:11 |
| Solbu | Yey. Groklaw is Not closing. PF has assigned another lawyer to continue the blog. | May 17 13:11 |
| Solbu | *PJ | May 17 13:11 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: legal shield is gone. | May 17 13:11 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: the Novell MS deal is not transferable. Neither is the sale agreements of Novell | May 17 13:12 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: so unless Mono can get MS backing they are basically a complete legal sitting duck now. | May 17 13:12 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Microsoft Florian retweets #Mono news... twice. Gotta keep those Microsoft #swpats in circulation, eh @fosspatents ;-)? | May 17 13:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "[L]egal shield is gone. the Novell MS deal is not transferable. Neither is the sale agreements of Novell" ~oiaohm | May 17 13:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "...so unless Mono can get MS backing they are basically a complete legal sitting duck now. " ~oiaohm #swpats #mono #Trojan | May 17 13:16 | |
| MinceR | 140859 < schestowitz> Miguel has a lot of money | May 17 13:17 |
| MinceR | he's going to burn it :> | May 17 13:17 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] According to @jwildeboer Mr. @fosspatents develops in .NET. He also follows #Barca which #ManUtd will beat on the 28th in Wembley ;-) | May 17 13:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Pork n Beans http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/457662/ | May 17 13:18 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Pork and Beans Video .::. Size~: 44.7 KB | May 17 13:18 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/73693401 | May 17 13:20 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Rui Seabra (ruiseabra)'s status on Tuesday, 17-May-11 12:14:01 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz so now there's a company behind #mono but without the patent racket protection scheme conducted 'tween Microsoft and Novell? :) | May 17 13:20 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/73693416 | May 17 13:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @agentsmith's status on Tuesday, 17-May-11 12:14:14 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Oh, oh, a turkey so lousy no one wanted to touch it, with a mile long stick... | May 17 13:21 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/73693689 | May 17 13:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @agentsmith's status on Tuesday, 17-May-11 12:17:11 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Oh, for his football preferences, he's ok. Only his programming preferences are lousy. ;-) | May 17 13:21 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] RT @MarietjeD66: Binnenkort: Nerds in the Parliament, initiatief voor meer kennis bij collega's over #ICT http://ur1.ca/463qm | May 17 13:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] International alarm rings over UK ICT policy - http://bit.ly/jw7jOT wrong: the alarm is from the monopolists & dinosaurs #openstandards | May 17 13:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Mueller has been ... launching “fatwas”... while refusing to address the very big elephant in the room: Microsoft." http://is.gd/D4mivV | May 17 13:21 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Nerds lezen Europarlement de les | Webwereld .::. Size~: 65.02 KB | May 17 13:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: International alarm rings over UK ICT policy - Public Sector IT .::. Size~: 62.21 KB | May 17 13:21 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/70462926217158658 | May 17 13:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Is there really an Open Source “Tea Party Movement”? | Moved by Freedom – Powered by Standards .::. Size~: 47.82 KB | May 17 13:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @FOSSpatents: @schestowitz Why do you take issue with Mono-related ones out of many tweets? I had reported on the Novell deal and this is related to it. | May 17 13:21 |
| schestowitz | How so? | May 17 13:21 |
| oiaohm | This is not the Novell sale this is after the sale. | May 17 13:22 |
| schestowitz | yes, exactly | May 17 13:23 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Microsoft Florian has been entering "polite mode" w/ #Groklaw and I hear it's because of the #Facebook #lobbying expose. He must be nervous. | May 17 13:23 | |
| oiaohm | attachmate is starting to make a new home for itself. | May 17 13:23 |
| oiaohm | Also attachmate has not shut down the mono project sites. | May 17 13:23 |
| oiaohm | So their could be more hell to come yet. | May 17 13:23 |
| oiaohm | I would not put it past attachmate to allow mono developers to setup shop by themselfs then patent black mail them for free labour. | May 17 13:24 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Ed #Vaizey’s response to being most met minister in 2010 - http://bit.ly/monZrF you don't meet people, you meet industries #lobbying | May 17 13:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] Saw 'The Doctor's Wife' last night. Wonderful episode. Neil Gaiman is an incredible writer, and Mat Smith is a great Doctor. | May 17 13:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] My guess is that Florian will quietly vanish just like Microsoft's lobbyist Jonathan Zuck (ACT) when he's close to getting too sloppy. | May 17 13:24 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Who's Lobbying Blog - Ed Vaizey’s response to being most met minister in 2010 .::. Size~: 11.17 KB | May 17 13:24 |
| schestowitz | Hmm... never thought about the site | May 17 13:24 |
| schestowitz | I guess these could be shut down | May 17 13:25 |
| oiaohm | But at this stage attachmate has not. | May 17 13:25 |
| oiaohm | Why fire the staff and leave the site up. | May 17 13:25 |
| oiaohm | Basically something is badly off here. | May 17 13:25 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #xamarin .com registered for just one year. So much of a future, eh? (for comparison, I registered schestowitz.com for 10 years in 2004) | May 17 13:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Attachmate still owns all the #mono sites/domains. Will it bother paying the hosting bill? Will it relinquish control? | May 17 13:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Govt OSS Policy: resilient as a snowflake in June - http://bit.ly/jZwiYc bad news if this turns out to be correct #openstandards #rf #frand | May 17 13:29 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | May 17 13:29 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/70463052406984704 | May 17 13:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @FOSSpatents: @schestowitz I like the .NET API and I own Visual Studio, but if it were up to me, Microsoft would not own even one .NET-related patent. | May 17 13:30 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/70463261417545728 | May 17 13:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @FOSSpatents: @schestowitz I look forward to the CL final. I would have liked Real Madrid to win its 10th European cup but in this case I support Barça. | May 17 13:30 |
| oiaohm | FOSSpatents has to get it that MS does that is the problem. | May 17 13:30 |
| schestowitz | @FOSSpatents Barça has a good chance, but after the Schalke game, who knows? | May 17 13:30 |
| oiaohm | Does not matter how much you like the language. | May 17 13:31 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/70463499985354752 | May 17 13:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @FOSSpatents: @schestowitz Just to clarify, I formally worked for Real Madrid on broadcasting rights but Barça and indirectly Milan supported my efforts. | May 17 13:31 |
| oiaohm | If you legally cannot not use it end of matter. | May 17 13:31 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/70463707846672384 | May 17 13:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @FOSSpatents: @schestowitz I encourage you to also take note of my efforts in covering the Lodsys mess and the critical article I linked to regarding IV. | May 17 13:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] http://is.gd/Tw6ljm features a lot of proprietary software (no access to source code, sometimes #opencore ) marketed as "open source" | May 17 13:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @wayneborean Just installed Ubuntu 8.04 on an older system, going to strip #mono out as soon as updates complete. Who needs it? | May 17 13:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @wayneborean Not me | May 17 13:31 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Main Page - Mono .::. Size~: 12.36 KB | May 17 13:31 |
| schestowitz | I see no criticism of IV in the "foss patents" blog | May 17 13:31 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/70464313059590144 | May 17 13:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @FOSSpatents: @schestowitz Because post-acquisition Attachmate laid off most or all of the Mono staff. That project lookedl ike the 1st victim of the deal | May 17 13:31 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/70464763871756289 | May 17 13:32 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @FOSSpatents: @schestowitz According to actonline.org Jonathan Zuck just testified at a congressional hearing. I disagree with him on software patents. | May 17 13:32 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/70464902531264512 | May 17 13:32 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @FOSSpatents: @schestowitz If you saw my Mono-related tweets, you might also have seen that I seconded and recommended PJ's "nails" comments on Lodsys. | May 17 13:32 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/tank6b/status/70465166462042112 | May 17 13:33 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @tank6b: @schestowitz OMG! that site... you own that? What is this 1998? | May 17 13:33 |
| oiaohm | Worst thing would be for mono would be two project leads. | May 17 13:33 |
| schestowitz | It was mostly built 8 years ago | May 17 13:33 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Installing BugZilla. Never done this before..... | May 17 13:33 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/wayneborean/status/70465730352644096 | May 17 13:33 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @wayneborean: @schestowitz Yeah, well @fosspatents isn't all that bright. If you bet against his predictions you'd make money. | May 17 13:33 |
| oiaohm | Ie one at SUSE and the old dog. | May 17 13:33 |
| oiaohm | The one at SUSE would still have the patent shield until end of year. | May 17 13:34 |
| schestowitz | oh, that... | May 17 13:34 |
| oiaohm | With a option to renew that shield. | May 17 13:34 |
| oiaohm | Basically we really don't fully know what in heck attachmate is really upto. | May 17 13:34 |
| oiaohm | Just because you layed off all staff in one country does that you are giving up on the project completely. | May 17 13:35 |
| oiaohm | I could not see mono project lead fitting in at SUSE head office. | May 17 13:35 |
| schestowitz | true | May 17 13:35 |
| schestowitz | They are also distant | May 17 13:35 |
| schestowitz | SUSE is Linux | May 17 13:36 |
| schestowitz | Mono is .NET | May 17 13:36 |
| schestowitz | Cross-platform | May 17 13:36 |
| schestowitz | And it's based in Boston mostly | May 17 13:36 |
| schestowitz | SUSE is still more German than American | May 17 13:36 |
| oiaohm | The point. | May 17 13:36 |
| oiaohm | Net need to ship in a distribution. | May 17 13:36 |
| oiaohm | So moving that all to one place would be ideal. | May 17 13:37 |
| oiaohm | Yes the mono project was setup in the wrong place from one point of view. | May 17 13:37 |
| MinceR | http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Yahoo-wins-Linux-patent-trial-that-Google-lost-1243687.html | May 17 13:37 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Yahoo wins Linux patent trial that Google lost - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 40.79 KB | May 17 13:37 |
| oiaohm | We need more time to know exactly what attachmate is upto. | May 17 13:37 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/70467217522827265 | May 17 13:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @FOSSpatents: @schestowitz The only article I link to concerning them is Gene Quinn's article that says IV is obscene abuse of the patent system. | May 17 13:39 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/70467555634057217 | May 17 13:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @FOSSpatents: @schestowitz Barça did not play too well in recent months. And when the same 2 teams play another final so soon again, 1st loser often wins. | May 17 13:40 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/70467687498792960 | May 17 13:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @FOSSpatents: @schestowitz On my own blog I just make it clear that my focus is on Lodsys, so I refer to Gene Quinn for a detailed discussion of IV. | May 17 13:40 |
| schestowitz | "@FOSSpatents Gene is a booster of #swpats because he makes money from them. He is just envious of #IV which made blackmail systemic" | May 17 13:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] That Sound in the Distance Is Skype's Funeral Dirge http://is.gd/Bqwb6P @noyesk on the imminent death of VOIP? http://is.gd/M7RFGR #swpats | May 17 13:41 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Linux News: Community: That Sound in the Distance Is Skype's Funeral Dirge .::. Size~: 59.93 KB | May 17 13:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Microsoft’s Touch of Death | Techrights .::. Size~: 115.33 KB | May 17 13:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Why is this fucking compiler showing me warnings that immediately scroll off the screen? How is that good interaction design?? | May 17 13:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] "Mixing compilers is not supported" WTF!? BUT WHAT DOES IT MEAN?? I NO GUD WITH COMPUTORS OH MY GOD HOW DID I GET HERE HELP | May 17 13:46 | |
| MinceR | http://www.explosm.net/comics/1064/ | May 17 13:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Cyanide & Happiness #1064 - Explosm.net .::. Size~: 18.85 KB | May 17 13:48 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Jesus fucking Perl is compiling the whole universe. I hate this language! Oo | May 17 13:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] By George, Have They Finally Got It? (Er, No...) - http://bit.ly/mhaPA6 UK gov makes right noises, but still doesn't fully get it #openness | May 17 13:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] "Please wait while pulling Cosmos::LawsOfPhysics from CPAN. This will only take a million years... Feel free to have a coffee." Gah!! | May 17 13:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Can't decide what is worse.... CPAN or CSPAN.... | May 17 13:51 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] Important question, interesting post: How many copies for digital archives etc. to be safe? #Europeana http://j.mp/kE2B7S | May 17 13:54 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Transparency for all, until It affects me | http://red.ht/jxgIki #gov20 #politics | May 17 14:03 | |
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| MinceR | http://abstrusegoose.com/364 | May 17 14:10 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Android handsets 'leak' personal data http://is.gd/kSSsPC - #Google is known to be on the case, very different from #Microsoft & #Apple | May 17 14:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] RT @Vickyontowit: At Moores with @_the_mad_hatter and came across a fire fly fan working at here! He likes dads brown coat. | May 17 14:14 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: BBC News - Android handsets 'leak' personal data .::. Size~: 58 KB | May 17 14:14 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Video: Street Dance in Paris http://is.gd/k3fPmI pretty amazing. #paris #robotdance | May 17 14:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] RT @Chevenga: Philosopher in Arms 476 tser : My hands smack me down. http://bit.ly/lPIfGh #amwriting #Chevenga #weblit | May 17 14:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Links 17/5/2011: More GNOME 3 Mockups, Groklaw Interviews http://is.gd/QPsIUR #techrights | May 17 14:16 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/70468728910905344 | May 17 14:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @FOSSpatents: @schestowitz I think he and many other IP pros may be concerned about the political backlash that a growing IV's activities may provoke. | May 17 14:16 |
| MinceR | Initialization Vector? | May 17 14:16 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/fcassia/status/70471201142743040 | May 17 14:18 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @fcassia: @schestowitz seen this? the forkers must be proud... http://ho.io/pzck | May 17 14:18 |
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| schestowitz | Forrester (which Microsoft paid to attack Linux) and Kurt at the Microsoft press are not a reliable source IMHO | May 17 14:18 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/RealHPT/status/70472301837160448 | May 17 14:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @RealHPT: @schestowitz Amazing. I had a motorcycle riding blog using Geocities. It was very user friendly to create web pages, learn HTML. Since dead. | May 17 14:19 |
| schestowitz | Killed by Microsoft entryism | May 17 14:19 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] RT @alexhundert: RT @timmcsorley: Byron Sonne granted bail; Crown to challenge his release | Media Co-op http://ht.ly/4VYUI #g20report #g20 | May 17 14:19 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: http://www.mediacoop.ca/blog/tim-mcsorley/7271 .::. Size~: 4.14 KB | May 17 14:19 |
| Diablo-D3 | >blog | May 17 14:20 |
| Diablo-D3 | >geocities | May 17 14:20 |
| Diablo-D3 | what | May 17 14:20 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @sixgun: The Linux Outlaws are live with an Afternoon Special: http://linuxoutlaws.com/live !LinuxOutlaws | May 17 14:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @ghostler Killed by Microsoft entryism | May 17 14:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] A Linux system running over JavaScript http://lwn.net/Articles/443200/rss | May 17 14:21 | |
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| MinceR | Diablo-D3: blogs aren't exactly a new invention, just the buzzword is relatively new :> | May 17 14:21 |
| Diablo-D3 | man, geocities was... I dunno | May 17 14:22 |
| MinceR | lame? :> | May 17 14:23 |
| Diablo-D3 | yes/no | May 17 14:24 |
| Diablo-D3 | but back when no one used the internet, everyone had a site on geocities | May 17 14:24 |
| MinceR | i didn't | May 17 14:25 |
| MinceR | i had a site on extra.hu :> | May 17 14:25 |
| Diablo-D3 | who? | May 17 14:28 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @wayneborean That makes us 2, twitter is full of spam and ads. | May 17 14:28 | |
| MinceR | a gratis web host | May 17 14:28 |
| MinceR | like geocities, only with less ugly ads and less ugly urls | May 17 14:28 |
| MinceR | at least back then | May 17 14:28 |
| MinceR | they might have turned into a news site since then | May 17 14:28 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] On my way home listing to #BBC #Discovery podcast | May 17 14:29 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #GNU #Linux users can get along just find with Microsoft. Problem is, MSFT doesn't get along. http://is.gd/ZB03mZ is.gd/wHk4cM is.gd/tZOF3F | May 17 14:34 | |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: what was your site about? | May 17 14:35 |
| MinceR | i can't remember | May 17 14:35 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #PR firms need to be regulated, with felony offences for breaking the rules for all involved | May 17 14:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Doing stuff and podcasting at the same time... Oo | May 17 14:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] #lo try #hotot it is a cool app for Linux gnome 3 to do identi.ca | May 17 14:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] VMware debuts sign-on service for cloud applications (Network World): http://bit.ly/itsjPw | May 17 14:44 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] NetApp offers Microsoft cloud blueprint (network World): http://bit.ly/k2Isrh | May 17 14:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Patching Windows is a major time sink for IT departments (Network World): http://bit.ly/mBRIFH | May 17 14:46 | |
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| oiaohm | Geocities the 1 page only sites. It was the one that caused me to find my first major fault in internet explorer. | May 17 14:48 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/73699004 < mono booster | May 17 14:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @LuÃs Souto Graña (spectrumgomas)'s status on Tuesday, 17-May-11 13:34:29 UTC - Identi.ca: Cuando @schestowitz agarra una presa no la suelta: http://bit.ly/jzUuVF | May 17 14:48 |
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| oiaohm | When I was trying to fit as many pages into 1 page as able using javascript trasnformations. | May 17 14:48 |
| schestowitz | [13:06] <oiaohm> http://www.mono-project.com/Main_Page Also take a close look at the moonlight logo. schestowitz | May 17 14:48 |
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| schestowitz | What about it? | May 17 14:48 |
| MinceR | same as the new xwhatever logo? | May 17 14:50 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: same logo as what is dominate on the new mono site. | May 17 14:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] !miners Server back up! | May 17 14:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Microsoft volume licensing to let you swap iron for clouds, And back again should you so desire (Register): http://bit.ly/m5tYNU | May 17 14:53 | |
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| oiaohm | schestowitz: It was just a observence thing. interesting not there now. | May 17 14:54 |
| oiaohm | http://tirania.org/blog/archive/2011/May-16.html still on the blog post. schestowitz | May 17 14:55 |
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| oiaohm | Not part of the company any more you should not be using the logos. | May 17 14:55 |
| MinceR | :> | May 17 14:55 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Pioneering Netscape developer (& now owner of DNA nightclub) Jamie Zawinski gets into feud with YouTube/club patron (http://gaw.kr/lRugxi) | May 17 15:01 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Had to downgrade #MOC cli audio player from Debian testing to squeeze...http://ur1.ca/47alx i was unable to play streamming files! | May 17 15:03 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @windigo: I love this podcast. "So I built a cart system from spawn, but all the carts had chickens in them." #theshaft !miners | May 17 15:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Fixing two servers and fucking podcasting live at the same time, that's how I roll.... :D | May 17 15:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] Documentation Process http://blog.mozilla.com/sumo/2011/05/17/documentation-process/ | May 17 15:16 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] >Barnes & Noble Brings Periodicals to Android Tablets http://is.gd/2qd4eW #linux #android #drm | May 17 15:18 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @QSpotN900 #QSpot 0.9.1-1 now available from extras-devel/garage. Introduces e.g., automatic login changelog: http://j.mp/mMf47m. #n900 | May 17 15:19 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: maemo.org - Talk - View Single Post - [ANNOUNCE] QSpot, a Qt-based Spotify client based on libopenspotify .::. Size~: 9.07 KB | May 17 15:19 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: good point | May 17 15:24 |
| schestowitz | I think Novell sold the TMs and logos to attachMSFT | May 17 15:24 |
| oiaohm | Yep. | May 17 15:28 |
| oiaohm | All Novell trademarks and the like are attachmates. | May 17 15:28 |
| oiaohm | This include the name Mono | May 17 15:28 |
| oiaohm | Yes the old project lead of mono is about to be in a legal crap storm. | May 17 15:29 |
| schestowitz | good point | May 17 15:30 |
| schestowitz | will raise it later | May 17 15:30 |
| schestowitz | I've got to go now, I'll take the keyboard to make some posts in the gym | May 17 15:30 |
| MinceR | maybe they'll rebrand it to "Stereo" :> | May 17 15:31 |
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| xjasonx | schestowitz: keybuk Scott James Remnant Gosh, I do hope that Boycott Novell don't find out that I'm the angel behind Xamarin's funding! #MonoForever | May 17 15:38 |
| xjasonx | http://twitter.com/#!/keybuk/status/70305299457773569 | May 17 15:38 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @keybuk: Gosh, I do hope that Boycott Novell don't find out that I'm the angel behind Xamarin's funding! #MonoForever | May 17 15:38 |
| xjasonx | I guess we know who is funding them now | May 17 15:39 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @andyc: Doing stuff with outer joins. This always makes my head hurt. | May 17 15:39 | |
| xjasonx | anyone here? | May 17 15:42 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] On the second can of Monster during this show.... !LO | May 17 15:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] "A good legal agreement is like a virus...." | May 17 15:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Interview: Tim Ferriss - http://bit.ly/jFP5ip am I the only person who finds this man's answers utterly incomprehensible? | May 17 15:44 | |
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| koolhead17 | hi all | May 17 15:45 |
| xjasonx | hi koolhead | May 17 15:45 |
| xjasonx | what do you think of this new mono company? | May 17 15:46 |
| xjasonx | ugh, final exam in 15 minutes | May 17 15:47 |
| xjasonx | can't stay long | May 17 15:47 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Restrictive #copyright plays into #music industry myths - http://bit.ly/iQSuUr brilliant, sober analysis ripping away the FUD (v @mgeist) | May 17 15:49 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @windigo: One day, @fabsh's local store will run out of Monster, and he will rapidly age into a pile of dust on the spot. !lo | May 17 15:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] #Nintendo Boss Sent Bricks in #DRM Protest: http://torrentfreak.com/nintendo-boss-being-sent-bricks-in-drm-protest-110517/ !dbd | May 17 15:53 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] [$] Mark Shuttleworth on companies and free software http://lwn.net/Articles/442782/rss | May 17 16:14 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #ScottishGas add your email to their lists despite telling them not to, they also don't include unsubscribe links, use a temp email for them | May 17 16:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Greetings !Identiverse | May 17 16:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @x11r5 i still have the same difference between veronica and betty. And i'm fine with the upgrades. Total makeover! | May 17 16:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] Tell President @BarackObama: End the #war in #Afghanistan. http://ur1.ca/47ba5 | May 17 16:26 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Superbrands' success fuelled by sex, religion and gossip http://is.gd/QfNw9j | May 17 16:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @lamm Tell President @BarackObama: End the #war in #Afghanistan. http://ur1.ca/47ba5 | May 17 16:29 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Asasinarea Papei Ioan Paul al II-la, comandată de sovietici http://is.gd/2HTsNc #pope #politics | May 17 16:31 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] [VIDEOP] Filmul sărbătorilor regale din zilele de 9-13 mai 2011 http://is.gd/Jvw5Qe #romania #monarchy #mihai | May 17 16:33 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Another !LO in the can. Great fun as always. :D | May 17 16:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @jaffa2: RT @markguim: whoa.. how did pocketnow score this? Nokia N9 teaser! http://youtu.be/t-KfxrI1NXg | May 17 16:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @BritishMonarchy: Gallery of images of The Queen and The Duke of Edinburgh in Ireland #QueensVisit #Ireland: http://bit.ly/m9pIPK | May 17 16:39 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Prezentari si imagini de la conferinta AGORA despre Software Liber http://is.gd/ZHsUUC #agora #foss #romania | May 17 16:41 | |
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| GoForbes28 | good morning all! | May 17 16:43 |
| GoForbes28 | schestowitz: Just caught two minor grammar mistakes in each of the artcles | May 17 16:43 |
| GoForbes28 | schestowitz: "We at Techrights have repeatedly drove this point home." should be "We at Techrights have repeatedly driven this point home." | May 17 16:44 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] #Pollinosis seems to be subsiding somewhat | May 17 16:44 | |
| GoForbes28 | schestowitz: "We at Techrights of course do not celebrate that fact " should be "the fact" | May 17 16:45 |
| GoForbes28 | good morning thistleweb | May 17 16:45 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @jabz: "Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose." !q | May 17 16:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Homeland Open Security Technology (HOST) - http://bit.ly/l583jb DHS+Open Technology Research Consortium: rather a nice vote for #openness | May 17 16:53 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] That Sound in the Distance Is Skype's Funeral Dirge http://is.gd/Bqwb6P #skype #microsoft #voip | May 17 16:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Beyond Skype: VoIP Alternatives http://is.gd/vUwVUY #voip #skype #microsoft | May 17 16:58 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] sometimes Identica is annoying when you can't remember how to spell someone's nick :( there's no tab completion / buddly list etc | May 17 17:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Climate Science-Defying Paper Yanked for Plagiarism - http://bit.ly/lOVHxN never a dull moment in this field | May 17 17:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] tab completion of nicks you follow / in the same group as / who @ you would be a fantastic feature @support #identica | May 17 17:08 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Netflix Now The Largest Single Source of Internet Traffic In North America (TechCrunch): http://tcrn.ch/k70JM9 | May 17 17:09 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @HPLinux: Red Hat Achieves Industry-Leading Virtualization Results with HP: http://ow.ly/4VZvF #redhat #hp #linux #gnu | May 17 17:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @psep: RD @aurele: Free Software Foundation has the Software Freedom Activism Guide http://libreplanet.org/wiki/Activism_Guide | May 17 17:13 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] NewStatesman: Why I signed the !WikiLeaks NDA http://ur1.ca/47bk1 | May 17 17:16 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Most Interesting People in the Room Launches - http://tnw.co/jk2YUQ nice: an elitist version of #quora: "non-paying folk are Puerto Rico" | May 17 17:18 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Oh !Canada : Finally time to "Free Byron!" http://ur1.ca/473s9 !freeByron !cdnpoli #g20 #democracy | May 17 17:19 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] MacroWikinomics: nonthreatening web theory primer for business - http://bit.ly/kd1Byq witty, thorough review | May 17 17:21 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Looks like next week's hearing at the General Court will be fun, but not as fun as the one in APR 2006. Surely I'm more tired now. | May 17 17:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] To all student... Please do hard work because next tome you will get time when your son will marry.. | May 17 17:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] RT @rsandu Beyond Skype: VoIP Alternatives http://is.gd/vUwVUY #voip #skype #microsoft | May 17 17:24 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] New York release road map to becoming a digital city - http://bit.ly/k1DOj1 handy summary for those of us too lazy to read the whole thing | May 17 17:28 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] "a dandy handwriting sample from Sarkozy... to establish a graphological baseline for narcissistic sociopathy" - http://bit.ly/jjneA8 | May 17 17:31 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] #Nintendo: We'll brick your device if we don't like your software choices, you have no privacy, we own your photos http://ur1.ca/47bmk !dbd | May 17 17:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] Things you can do with HTML5 - My two HTML5 project got highlighted.. http://ur1.ca/47bo0 | May 17 17:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] What the Internet is hiding from you (Ted video): http://bit.ly/ixtmWo | May 17 17:33 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] BMJ bewirbt Urheberrechts-Propaganda für Schüler - http://bit.ly/mDhqcs won't someone think of the children? #copyright #propaganda | May 17 17:38 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] e-#G8: la balcanización del Internet - http://bit.ly/j7BstN "¿Quién representa a los ciudadanos?" | May 17 17:46 | |
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| DaemonFC | http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/announce/2011-May/002959.html | May 17 17:48 |
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| DaemonFC | Export laws on software are ridiculous | May 17 17:51 |
| DaemonFC | all it means is that if I give restricted software to someone in Cuba, for example, I am breaking the law | May 17 17:51 |
| DaemonFC | but if I give a copy to someone in Canada who turns around and gives it to someone in Cuba, that's legal | May 17 17:51 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 17 17:51 |
| DaemonFC | So the law isn't stopping me from "exporting" anything, I just have to give it to an intermediary outside of US jurisdiction | May 17 17:52 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Bitcoin scepticism - http://bit.ly/lIt4yV and #bitcoin says to this...? (v @newsbrooke) #digitalmoney | May 17 17:53 | |
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| DaemonFC | The main reason for that to exist is so a company like Red Hat couldn't sell software such as that to a an embargoed country, but even there it's pointless because the embargo makes it illegal to do any kind of business with such a country | May 17 17:54 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 17 17:54 |
| DaemonFC | this just means they would be breaking two laws with one act | May 17 17:54 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Ordered complete DVD collection of Moonlighting. Willis/Shepherd at their best. #80s | May 17 17:54 | |
| DaemonFC | The US Federal code is so bloated that there's over 30,000 things you could do leading to prison time | May 17 17:55 |
| DaemonFC | and that's before you even get to any state or local laws | May 17 17:56 |
| DaemonFC | all factored in, I'm probably breaking a law somewhere by doing anything | May 17 17:57 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Lawyers love a complex mess of a legal system that is impossible for any person to understand in its entirety | May 17 17:57 |
| DaemonFC | Lawyers are fighting the same-sex marriage ban pro bono, I think, to drum up more divorce business later on | May 17 17:58 |
| DaemonFC | There's this billboard out on a highway just outside of town, rented by the "Indiana Family Coalition" that says "Marriage - Unique by design. Vote your values." | May 17 17:59 |
| DaemonFC | I agree, Marriage is defective by design, vote Republican and keep the 70% divorce rate for the breeders | May 17 17:59 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Scotland Yard fights to keep Jack the Ripper files secret - http://bit.ly/mbq5qt cites Judas Iscariot as reason (v @vickeegan) | May 17 17:59 | |
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| DaemonFC | everyone is equal under the glorious codified legal system, just some more than others | May 17 18:00 |
| DaemonFC | right Comrade MinceR? :) | May 17 18:00 |
| Solbu | Unless you can't afford a lawyer. ;-)= | May 17 18:01 |
| Solbu | *hiding* | May 17 18:01 |
| DaemonFC | The purpose of marriage is to reproduce, a lot, you know, like this | May 17 18:01 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUspLVStPbk | May 17 18:01 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] The People Who Support #Linux: Jared Blouse Talks About Unbridled Play, Uncompromising Innovation: http://bit.ly/mbAqQs | May 17 18:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Tramps like us, baby we were born to run! | May 17 18:04 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] Software freedom and the cloud: Cloud computing is not just disruptive to the software market; it’s also disrupt... http://wmk.me/kRvA70 | May 17 18:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] oooh @telecomix #datalove @agent23 follows me! <3 ~~~:) (:~~~ | May 17 18:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Fight modern terrorism by keeping Jack The Ripper documents secret. That's Scotland Yard, not Monty Python. http://ur1.ca/47buh | May 17 18:08 | |
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| Solbu | Speaking of the law. I remember watching a documentary in the late 1990-s about insurance fraud in the US. | May 17 18:08 |
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| Solbu | One of the cases involved buss passengers. | May 17 18:08 |
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| Solbu | They have set up a hidden camera inside the bus, and 5 cameras outside in a crossing. | May 17 18:10 |
| Solbu | The bus stoped at a red light, and a car, who was in on the undercover operation, just barely bumped the bus from behind. The passengers knew nothing untill the two drivers got out of their weicles, into a store, allegedly to fill out papers. | May 17 18:11 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] RT @NeelieKroesEU: Help me with your experience and insight to get the European #CloudComputing Strategy right! Link to questionnaire at... | May 17 18:11 | |
| Solbu | 6 people then boarded the bus. 7 people later filed insurance claims for medical expenses, relating to the accident. | May 17 18:12 |
| Solbu | The lowest clain was 1,2 million dollars. | May 17 18:12 |
| Solbu | They where fined in court, the ammount they have sought in their claims. ;-)= | May 17 18:13 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, swoop and squat is a similar scam | May 17 18:13 |
| DaemonFC | two cars are involved, not counting the 3rd, which is the victim | May 17 18:13 |
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| DaemonFC | one car gets to the left or right of the victim, blocking the other lane and the one in front hits the brakes, leaving the victim nowhere to go except slamming into the back of the car in front | May 17 18:14 |
| DaemonFC | it is designed to exploit laws that some states have where all rear end collisions are the fault of the person driving the car in back | May 17 18:14 |
| Solbu | I loved that court case. Hehe. The one who claimed 1,2 million dollars in damages, where fined 1,2 million. ;-)= | May 17 18:15 |
| DaemonFC | then the scammers say they have "soft tissue damage", usually vouched for by a chiropractor in on the deal | May 17 18:15 |
| DaemonFC | the insurance companies usually settle to keep it out of court cause those injuries are tough to prove either way | May 17 18:15 |
| DaemonFC | obviously the scam is dangerous | May 17 18:16 |
| DaemonFC | both perpetrator and victim have wound up dead when it goes wrong :) | May 17 18:16 |
| Solbu | Yea. I've heard that sometimes people have actually died in these scams, due to unforseen events during the accident scams. | May 17 18:17 |
| DaemonFC | the laws are how they are because the insurance companies want someone to blame, and someone to blame quickly | May 17 18:17 |
| Solbu | Usually a pedestrian. | May 17 18:17 |
| DaemonFC | the longer these things drag on, the more they end up paying | May 17 18:17 |
| DaemonFC | so by statue, it's your fault even if it's really not | May 17 18:18 |
| DaemonFC | *statute | May 17 18:18 |
| DaemonFC | not all states have those laws, Indiana does :P | May 17 18:19 |
| DaemonFC | makes it real bad to be the last car in a pile up | May 17 18:19 |
| Solbu | TWo years ago old insurance scams where unravelled here in Norway due to a drowning and a mini sub where enroled to search for the victim. The mini subs camera then revealed some 20 cars on the bottom of the lake. | May 17 18:20 |
| DaemonFC | if the law was simple, to the point, easy to understand, and meant to punish wrong doers, lawyers would be out of business and white collar criminals would all be behind bars | May 17 18:20 |
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| DaemonFC | 20 cars? | May 17 18:21 |
| Solbu | yea. | May 17 18:21 |
| DaemonFC | is ditching cars in a lake a local custom that I am not aware of? :) | May 17 18:21 |
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| DaemonFC | "Hey, what's that lake called?" Car Lake. "That doesn't sound all that impressive. "It's what you don't see..." | May 17 18:22 |
| DaemonFC | :D | May 17 18:22 |
| Solbu | People strip cars and dump them in lakes in order to later file insurance claims, claming the car is stolen. | May 17 18:22 |
| DaemonFC | right, but then the car is there waiting to be found at some point | May 17 18:23 |
| DaemonFC | leading to fraud charges | May 17 18:23 |
| Solbu | Some even pay people to steal their cars to do this. | May 17 18:23 |
| DaemonFC | that's a really crappy plan | May 17 18:23 |
| Solbu | then they don't know where the car is and it was actuallt stolen. ;-)= | May 17 18:23 |
| Solbu | *actually | May 17 18:24 |
| DaemonFC | heh, pay a friend to burglarize your house isn't exactly a new one either | May 17 18:24 |
| Solbu | :-)= | May 17 18:24 |
| DaemonFC | those are the people who document everything they own | May 17 18:24 |
| DaemonFC | what a coincidence | May 17 18:24 |
| DaemonFC | "And a jar of peanut butter in the cupboard, half eaten. You're claiming $2?" | May 17 18:25 |
| DaemonFC | :P | May 17 18:25 |
| Solbu | It's not easy being legal either. I once witnesed a fire in a house a block away, in the street I lived som 13 years ago, and called the fire department when I noticed black smoke. | May 17 18:28 |
| Solbu | The police found it suspicious that I called in the fire before anyone else. ;-)= | May 17 18:28 |
| Solbu | The next week they called me in for an interview. ;-)= | May 17 18:29 |
| DaemonFC | "Fine, next time I'll wait until it spreads to 2-3 more houses so you'll believe me. Is that better?" | May 17 18:29 |
| DaemonFC | (What I would have said) | May 17 18:29 |
| Solbu | I think they dropped it when it was revealed that i lived practically next door, and my livingroom windows where in th edirection of the fire. ;-)= | May 17 18:30 |
| DaemonFC | well, sometimes the person who calsl it in is the person who did it | May 17 18:30 |
| DaemonFC | helps to deflect suspicions | May 17 18:30 |
| Solbu | Yea, they said as much. | May 17 18:30 |
| DaemonFC | "I found the dead guy, just laying there" | May 17 18:30 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] RT @x11r5 @ubuntutwo Is annoyed at paying $11 for a turing test :d | May 17 18:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[firefoxmilestones/@firefoxmilestones] #Firefox4 reached 166 million downloads on 2011-05-17 17:27 UTC | May 17 18:31 | |
| Solbu | And guilty people can come up with the most unbelivable explanations, trying to avoid sentencing. | May 17 18:32 |
| DaemonFC | Right, that's why the police interview a suspect over and over | May 17 18:32 |
| DaemonFC | guilt causes them to forget their story and change details | May 17 18:32 |
| Solbu | I once read in a paper that a guy who where prosecuted for rape, claimed the girl "fell on him".... ;-)= | May 17 18:32 |
| DaemonFC | over and over? | May 17 18:33 |
| DaemonFC | was she clumsy or did she have Parkinson's? | May 17 18:33 |
| DaemonFC | :P | May 17 18:33 |
| DaemonFC | Solbu, That's guilty conscience, nervousness, and stupidity all in one | May 17 18:34 |
| DaemonFC | the police eat those people for breakfast | May 17 18:34 |
| Solbu | Hehe. | May 17 18:34 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Yay! ♺ @vk7hse: The Southern end of the Great Wall is now complete \o/ !miners | May 17 18:34 | |
| Solbu | I even vitnessed how stupid someone can be in a police interview. | May 17 18:35 |
| DaemonFC | Solbu, The best thing you can do is just shut up and don't say anything your lawyer doesn't tell you to | May 17 18:35 |
| DaemonFC | nothing you say to the police can help you | May 17 18:35 |
| DaemonFC | but it can come back to hurt you in ways you did not anticipate | May 17 18:35 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 17 18:35 |
| Solbu | In college we where 5 people who stole a car. | May 17 18:35 |
| Solbu | it was discovered the next day, and we where interviewd all 5 together, in the principles office. This is 20 years ago. | May 17 18:36 |
| DaemonFC | the police have psychologists because a lot of crimes are committed by people with the same mental profile | May 17 18:36 |
| Solbu | One of the two officers aske me something, don't remember what, and I answered. | May 17 18:37 |
| DaemonFC | serial killers almost always share a lot of psychological traits | May 17 18:37 |
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| GoForbes28 | hi schestowitz | May 17 18:37 |
| Solbu | Then one of the others threatend me right there, in front for the police... | May 17 18:37 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: yes | May 17 18:37 |
| MinceR | four legs good, two legs better! | May 17 18:37 |
| GoForbes28 | dangit, he still isn't here | May 17 18:37 |
| GoForbes28 | There are two grammar mistakes in the latest articles we did that I would to correct | May 17 18:38 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Matthew #Garrett: If I've only been loaning my patches to #Canonical, can I ask for them back now? http://goo.gl/8li1Q http://ur1.ca/47c1k | May 17 18:38 | |
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| DaemonFC | Solbu, When the police threaten you with something they can't legally make good on, you'll notice there's only one of them in the room with you | May 17 18:38 |
| DaemonFC | that way there's nobody else that heard it | May 17 18:38 |
| DaemonFC | when they want a witness, there's two of them in there | May 17 18:38 |
| Solbu | DaemonFC: It one of my fellow criminals who threatend me. during the police interview. Hehe. | May 17 18:39 |
| Solbu | *it was | May 17 18:39 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @fontana: Matthew #Garrett: If I've only been loaning my patches to #Canonical, can I ask for them back now? http://goo.gl/8li1Q | May 17 18:39 | |
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| DaemonFC | don't send me to jail or I'll come pay you a visit when I get out? | May 17 18:40 |
| DaemonFC | :D | May 17 18:40 |
| Solbu | He said something like that, yes. hehe. | May 17 18:40 |
| Solbu | One of the officers then asked him if that was a threat, and he said they could take it as they whished. And I believe they did.. ;-)= | May 17 18:41 |
| Solbu | I think he was jailed. I was the only one who confessed, and was fined some $300,-. | May 17 18:42 |
| DaemonFC | what a stupid thing to say to a police officer | May 17 18:42 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | May 17 18:42 |
| Solbu | Yea, That was genious. ;-)= | May 17 18:42 |
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| GoForbes28 | hi daemonFC | May 17 18:43 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Just renewed my LWN subscription. Thanks Matthew Garrett! ;) | May 17 18:43 | |
| DaemonFC | Solbu, I used to work with an off duty police officer when I was a manager at Walmart :P | May 17 18:44 |
| DaemonFC | he worked there as a second job | May 17 18:44 |
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| DaemonFC | he pulled me over for speeding and I told him I think we had a conflict of interest | May 17 18:44 |
| DaemonFC | and he gave me a warning | May 17 18:44 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @reality "No one ever pokes me on Facebook" - Quote of the day. OMG I can't believe I heard this | May 17 18:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Ubuntu one syncs on one comp but not on the other though it says it is. I would not want to rely on this. This error goes way back #fail | May 17 18:44 | |
| Solbu | My brother had a similar experience, 15 years ago. | May 17 18:45 |
| DaemonFC | warnings don't mean anything unless you get like 8 of them inside 2 years, which is hard to do :) | May 17 18:45 |
| DaemonFC | then it turns into a reckless driving citation | May 17 18:45 |
| DaemonFC | $500 fine | May 17 18:46 |
| Solbu | he was driving for 10 years without a license, and was once stopped in a routine traffic stop. | May 17 18:46 |
| DaemonFC | oh, that won't go over well here | May 17 18:46 |
| Solbu | he recogniced them from erlier on the day, when they came to a crossing at a red light. THen turned on the lights and siren, crosed the intersection, and turned the siren and lights off. | May 17 18:47 |
| DaemonFC | That'a an A Misdemeanor for the driving without a license which carries up to 1 year in jail / $5,000 fine, then there's the no insurance part which is another $1,000 fine | May 17 18:47 |
| Solbu | When he threatend to tell the police commissioner, they relweased him with a warning. | May 17 18:47 |
| Solbu | ;-)= | May 17 18:47 |
| DaemonFC | and automatic revocation of your driver's license for 2 years | May 17 18:47 |
| DaemonFC | even if nothing else happens to you | May 17 18:48 |
| DaemonFC | so you can't even get one for 2 years if you try | May 17 18:48 |
| DaemonFC | there was a guy I used to know that made fake auto insurance cards | May 17 18:49 |
| DaemonFC | that's brilliant | May 17 18:49 |
| DaemonFC | risk a D Felony to save $30 a month on minimum car insurance | May 17 18:49 |
| Solbu | Yea, untill you need it. ;-)= | May 17 18:49 |
| DaemonFC | :D | May 17 18:49 |
| DaemonFC | Fraud | May 17 18:49 |
| DaemonFC | oh, if he gets pulled over with that, it's fraud | May 17 18:49 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Big ECPA reform news: RT @SenatorLeahy Introducing bill to update electronic #privacy laws today...want to bring law into digital age. | May 17 18:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Record⇒Libraries shelved as school boards look for cutbacks http://ur1.ca/47c41 < how to grow an educated workforce, Mr. McGuinty? #ontpoli | May 17 18:49 | |
| DaemonFC | he goes to prison (not jail) for up to 5 years | May 17 18:49 |
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| DaemonFC | I told him that if he insisted on using a phony insurance card to get his registration and plates, he should shred the phony card right after that | May 17 18:50 |
| DaemonFC | that way if he gets pulled over, he doesn't get caught with forged documents | May 17 18:51 |
| DaemonFC | in that case it's *only* the $1,000 civil fine for driving without insurance | May 17 18:51 |
| DaemonFC | not that $1,000 is chump change | May 17 18:51 |
| DaemonFC | I'd rather just get 4 years of insurance with that and not worry about a citation | May 17 18:52 |
| DaemonFC | you know it's likely that you'll get pulled over at least once in that 4 years anyway | May 17 18:52 |
| DaemonFC | there's some laws that are too petty to be worth breaking | May 17 18:53 |
| DaemonFC | that's kind of one of them IMO | May 17 18:53 |
| Solbu | In Norway it's not possible to register vehicles without a valid isnurance. The authority who issiues car licenses are linked to a national insurance register, which is updated in real time. | May 17 18:53 |
| DaemonFC | it's not like you're robbing Fort Knox, you're saving a few hundred dollars a year and risking your ass if you get pulled over | May 17 18:53 |
| DaemonFC | There's a provision in Indiana law that says if you had a non-compliant license for the federal REAL ID Act already, you can renew your license for another non-compliant one | May 17 18:54 |
| DaemonFC | I believe I will invoke that right when my license expires next year | May 17 18:55 |
| DaemonFC | I don't feel like carrying a national ID around with me if I really don't have to | May 17 18:55 |
| DaemonFC | I'll print out a copy of that provision to cite when I go talk to some idiot state employee at the DMV about it | May 17 18:55 |
| DaemonFC | :D | May 17 18:55 |
| Solbu | I have never understood the reason for requirering ID to get an insurance. | May 17 18:56 |
| DaemonFC | They also tried giving me one of those "In God We Trust" plates last time I was in there | May 17 18:56 |
| Solbu | In norway I don't remember having to show my ID wen I have applied for various insurances. | May 17 18:56 |
| DaemonFC | I pitched such a fit about it, they gave me a pickup truck plate with the state flag on it to make me shut up and go away | May 17 18:56 |
| DaemonFC | :P | May 17 18:56 |
| Solbu | Hehe | May 17 18:57 |
| DaemonFC | I showed them my ACLU member card and said I'd be in touch with them about it if I had to stick one of those things on my car | May 17 18:57 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 17 18:57 |
| DaemonFC | this state is so corrupt it's not even funny | May 17 18:58 |
| DaemonFC | privatize everything, contract toll roads and prisons to foreign companies | May 17 18:59 |
| DaemonFC | try to sell them the state lottery too | May 17 18:59 |
| DaemonFC | give IBM a no bid $2 billion contract to run the state welfare program | May 17 18:59 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] RT @NeelieKroesEU: Reminder: tomorrow 2pm Brussels time, we'll talk and you can #AskNeelie questions. | May 17 18:59 | |
| DaemonFC | yank it back a year later halfway into the implementation because IBM did such a crappy job | May 17 18:59 |
| DaemonFC | sit on the news agencies so they won't report the prisoners taking over one of those privatized prisons that had one guard per 50 inmates | May 17 19:00 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 17 19:00 |
| DaemonFC | re-elect the guy who did all of that | May 17 19:00 |
| DaemonFC | cause he promotes God on our license plates | May 17 19:01 |
| DaemonFC | :D | May 17 19:01 |
| Solbu | Obviously. :-)= | May 17 19:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] ♺ @jwildeboer: Fight modern terrorism, keep Jack The Ripper documents secret. That's Scotland Yard, not Monty Python. http://ur1.ca/47buh | May 17 19:04 | |
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| _Goblin | hi all....posting to you via natty..... | May 17 19:06 |
| _Goblin | giving it a run for the first time | May 17 19:07 |
| ThistleWeb | _Goblin: the windows key is your freind | May 17 19:07 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Security advisories for Tuesday http://lwn.net/Articles/443227/rss | May 17 19:08 | |
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| ThistleWeb | on the logout menu at the top left, there's a shortcut to the settings too | May 17 19:08 |
| ThistleWeb | top right even | May 17 19:08 |
| _Goblin | ? | May 17 19:10 |
| ThistleWeb | your name, at th top right, with logout, restart etc......has a link to the system settings | May 17 19:10 |
| ThistleWeb | saves a few clicks to get through to it normally | May 17 19:11 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] #Chickenpox rules! NOT! http://ur1.ca/47ca6 | May 17 19:11 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: https://file.status.net/i/identica/ruiseabra-20110517T180921-d7l285v.jpeg - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 10.39 KB | May 17 19:11 |
| ThistleWeb | to open apps, click the windows key and start typing, the windows key is the same as clicking the ubuntu logo in the top left | May 17 19:11 |
| ThistleWeb | I assume you mean Unity, when you say Natty | May 17 19:12 |
| MinceR | does it also work as a modifier key? | May 17 19:13 |
| _Goblin | ah | May 17 19:13 |
| _Goblin | see what you mean! | May 17 19:13 |
| DaemonFC | Unity! | May 17 19:13 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Press the Windows key | May 17 19:14 |
| DaemonFC | PRESS THE FUCKING WINDOWS KEY RIGHT NOW!!!!!! | May 17 19:14 |
| _Goblin | My hand was forced since I had a failure with Sabayon | May 17 19:14 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | May 17 19:14 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: what? it's unity with winblows... and with macos. | May 17 19:14 |
| _Goblin | so I thought what better time than to check 11.04 on my main rig | May 17 19:14 |
| MinceR | s/time/way to waste &/ | May 17 19:14 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] I fucking hate CGI! Gah!!!! | May 17 19:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] Code Documentation will attract Developer and Demo will attract User. Trick for good FOSS development.. | May 17 19:14 | |
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| MinceR | finally i can start trying distros out in VM-s | May 17 19:15 |
| _Goblin | cpu usage is much higher than sabayon | May 17 19:15 |
| ThistleWeb | unity is better than many say, but it's not brilliant | May 17 19:15 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR uses Hyper-V with CentOS | May 17 19:15 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | May 17 19:15 |
| MinceR | guess again | May 17 19:15 |
| DaemonFC | Hyper-V with SUSE? | May 17 19:15 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | May 17 19:15 |
| MinceR | guess again | May 17 19:16 |
| DaemonFC | Hyper-V with RHEL? | May 17 19:16 |
| MinceR | guess again | May 17 19:16 |
| DaemonFC | I know Hyper-V works with Ubuntu, so you're a Hyper-V with Ubuntu guy, who uses Unity on Windows Server | May 17 19:16 |
| DaemonFC | ahhh | May 17 19:16 |
| MinceR | not even close | May 17 19:17 |
| _Goblin | its going to take some getting used too but I think the wife will love Unity | May 17 19:18 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Thanks Abhishek Singh, your blog rocks! http://asingh.com.np | May 17 19:18 | |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR virtualizes his Linux pirateware so he can run fake .NET with ASP.NET through Mono on SLES with Microsoft AND Novell support | May 17 19:18 |
| DaemonFC | :D | May 17 19:18 |
| MinceR | what is "Linux pirateware"? | May 17 19:19 |
| MinceR | also, what is "Microsoft support" and "Novell support"? | May 17 19:19 |
| DaemonFC | You didn't pay Ballmer for the 300 bazillion Windows patents | May 17 19:19 |
| _Goblin | my biggest issue is that minmised packages don't appear on my bottom task bar.....years of Sabayon use I suppose....I could change but I think Im going to see if I can get used to this. | May 17 19:19 |
| DaemonFC | Linux is really made from stolen Windows XP source code | May 17 19:19 |
| DaemonFC | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_XP | May 17 19:19 |
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| DaemonFC | People's Exhibit A | May 17 19:19 |
| DaemonFC | hehe | May 17 19:19 |
| MinceR | hello there, Mr. McBride | May 17 19:19 |
| MinceR | People's Exhibit for the People's Republic? | May 17 19:20 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] I've been rocking out with my !Trisquel USB card from !FSF for a week now. Didn't have to haul my old, beat-up laptop to Puerto Rico. :) | May 17 19:21 | |
| ThistleWeb | _Goblin: some appear on the top bar, but that means a new API that not all apps have adapted yet | May 17 19:22 |
| ThistleWeb | I got annoyed with xchat not being there, well the icon / notification area thing | May 17 19:23 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Yes! Got Bugzilla running! Thanks Aks! | May 17 19:23 | |
| MinceR | that's the canonical way. | May 17 19:23 |
| DaemonFC | ThistleWeb, same | May 17 19:23 |
| ThistleWeb | the windows do appear on the side launcher but in a kinda odd and not very intuitive way | May 17 19:23 |
| MinceR | and that came from OSuX | May 17 19:23 |
| ThistleWeb | arguably the most annoying part of unity that I found was the global menu hiding the drop down menus until you mouse over them | May 17 19:25 |
| DaemonFC | Ubuntu is counterintuitive | May 17 19:26 |
| ThistleWeb | I like the space saving, specially on the small screen but that is an annoying addition | May 17 19:26 |
| DaemonFC | they take stuff that worked fine and change it just to look different | May 17 19:26 |
| DaemonFC | it's how proprietary software works | May 17 19:26 |
| ThistleWeb | where you have to make a window active to get the menu to change to be able to use it | May 17 19:26 |
| MinceR | i wouldn't say that the global (crApple-style) menu worked fine ever | May 17 19:26 |
| MinceR | :> | May 17 19:26 |
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| _Goblin | Currently theres two issues for me..... | May 17 19:27 |
| _Goblin | 1. the running apps are shown merely as arrows pointing to icons on the side bar... | May 17 19:27 |
| _Goblin | 2. the cpu usage even when idle....massive compared to Sabayon...im showing an average of 10% on all four processors.... | May 17 19:28 |
| _Goblin | sabayon I'd be lucky to scrape 5% on two | May 17 19:28 |
| _Goblin | mind you, customization might sort that out...Ive only been running it for around 30mins on my main rig | May 17 19:29 |
| ThistleWeb | unity is very limited with customisation, partly because it's new, and partly because canonical don't want it | May 17 19:29 |
| MinceR | it's the crApple way :> | May 17 19:29 |
| ThistleWeb | name calling always makes people look mature | May 17 19:30 |
| ThistleWeb | at least that's how I thought at age 5 | May 17 19:30 |
| MinceR | and that's how you add customization options to unity. | May 17 19:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] AWWWW GOD!!!!!! Augmented reality on CSI. Shoot me now! | May 17 19:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] RT @Lionelsola: Demain à 14h le Commissaire Européen pour la politique numérique @NeelieKroesEU répondra aux questions posées sur twitte ... | May 17 19:33 | |
| _Goblin | I'm right in thinking Evolution has no newsgroups feature...? | May 17 19:34 |
| MinceR | as far as i can tell, it has none | May 17 19:35 |
| _Goblin | I do like the app store.... | May 17 19:36 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] EFF weighs in on Lodsys v. Apple patent infringement accusations in @engadget https://eff.org/r.56p | May 17 19:36 | |
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| _Goblin | clicking around....very easy to find exactly what I want. | May 17 19:36 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Harald Sitter: !Kubuntu 11.10 Sneak Peak http://goo.gl/z1Zb8 | May 17 19:38 | |
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| GoForbes28 | hi _goblin | May 17 19:38 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/fcassia/status/70502262555951105 https://twitter.com/fcassia/status/70504104446803968 | May 17 19:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @fcassia: @infoworld arrives only 6hs late to the news that @schestowitz broke earlier today | May 17 19:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @fcassia: @infoworld Just trying to boost the morale of @schestowitz dont take it too personal. Keep up the good work :o), you guys rule, too. | May 17 19:39 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Crowdsourcing Links http://is.gd/doXYoN some !techrights news | May 17 19:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Crowdsourcing Links http://is.gd/doXYoN some #techrights news | May 17 19:39 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/dmacvicar/status/70528479015342080 | May 17 19:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @dmacvicar: @c_farrell @schestowitz just need an enemy. I wonder how he will keep the MS conspiration theory now. | May 17 19:40 |
| MinceR | m$ perspiration theory | May 17 19:40 |
| schestowitz | not to worry, I haven't forgotten SUSE guys ;-) | May 17 19:40 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/73714544 | May 17 19:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @G. Forbes (goforbes28)'s status on Tuesday, 17-May-11 17:40:46 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Two minor but apparent grammar mistakes in the two articles we did | May 17 19:41 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: blame Ballmer | May 17 19:41 |
| MinceR | :> | May 17 19:41 |
| schestowitz | GoForbes28: what are these mistakes? | May 17 19:41 |
| schestowitz | This is why we needed a second person | May 17 19:41 |
| GoForbes28 | schestowitz: In the mono article, "drove" should be driven | May 17 19:42 |
| schestowitz | to also help proofread, both sides | May 17 19:42 |
| schestowitz | I didn't catch the typos | May 17 19:42 |
| schestowitz | and the second? | May 17 19:42 |
| schestowitz | firs fixed | May 17 19:42 |
| schestowitz | *frist | May 17 19:42 |
| schestowitz | veen first | May 17 19:43 |
| schestowitz | even | May 17 19:43 |
| schestowitz | meh | May 17 19:43 |
| _Goblin | hi Roy | May 17 19:43 |
| schestowitz | Hi, _Goblin | May 17 19:43 |
| schestowitz | video today? :-) | May 17 19:43 |
| _Goblin | well.... | May 17 19:43 |
| GoForbes28 | in the mono article, we actually have two | May 17 19:43 |
| GoForbes28 | duplicate "the"s | May 17 19:43 |
| _Goblin | my rig has just had natty put on it...firstly for a proper look but secondly I hosed my sabayon (my fault | May 17 19:43 |
| GoForbes28 | and "of course do not celebrate that fact" should be "the fact" | May 17 19:44 |
| GoForbes28 | "the the Mono cultists" | May 17 19:44 |
| GoForbes28 | not major mistakes, just noticeable ones | May 17 19:44 |
| GoForbes28 | I wish I had time to go through them with a pen and paer | May 17 19:45 |
| GoForbes28 | paper | May 17 19:45 |
| schestowitz | GoForbes28: ok, done | May 17 19:45 |
| GoForbes28 | good | May 17 19:46 |
| GoForbes28 | I didn't spot any other obvious ones | May 17 19:46 |
| GoForbes28 | the article turned out very well :) | May 17 19:46 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: doesn't sound too bad | May 17 19:46 |
| GoForbes28 | *articles | May 17 19:46 |
| schestowitz | Now you can have a fresh system | May 17 19:46 |
| schestowitz | And try a new distro | May 17 19:46 |
| GoForbes28 | I can? | May 17 19:46 |
| schestowitz | the THE mono clutists | May 17 19:46 |
| schestowitz | Not typo << kidding | May 17 19:46 |
| schestowitz | They think they're THE | May 17 19:47 |
| schestowitz | "you're so vain..." | May 17 19:47 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ... e dagli amici mi guardi iddio. :-(( | May 17 19:47 | |
| MinceR | Mr. Vain | May 17 19:47 |
| GoForbes28 | lol | May 17 19:47 |
| GoForbes28 | don't get the joke | May 17 19:47 |
| GoForbes28 | ok, so you mean I have time to format my computer now? | May 17 19:47 |
| schestowitz | [16:45] <GoForbes28> schestowitz: "We at Techrights of course do not celebrate that fact " should be "the fact" | May 17 19:47 |
| schestowitz | I see now | May 17 19:47 |
| GoForbes28 | good | May 17 19:48 |
| GoForbes28 | The Borg cultists | May 17 19:48 |
| GoForbes28 | The THE Borg cultists :) | May 17 19:49 |
| DaemonFC | The clitorists even | May 17 19:49 |
| DaemonFC | :P | May 17 19:49 |
| GoForbes28 | schestowitz: all mistakes are fixed for sure now? | May 17 19:49 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Is there much khtml development going on anymore? | May 17 19:50 |
| DaemonFC | their CVS mailing list is deadish unless you count Trinity | May 17 19:50 |
| schestowitz | GoForbes28: check to be sure | May 17 19:50 |
| GoForbes28 | DaemonFC: I think KHTML is slowly being abadoned if it hasn't been already | May 17 19:50 |
| DaemonFC | it would be nice if the webkit kpart integrated better with Konqueror | May 17 19:51 |
| GoForbes28 | I think it's too late now, Apple has gone too far | May 17 19:53 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Gary Hamel: Reinventing the Technology of Human Accomplishment | http://red.ht/jMr6oQ #innovation #hackmanagement | May 17 19:53 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Gary Hamel: Reinventing the Technology of Human Accomplishment | opensource.com .::. Size~: 46.11 KB | May 17 19:53 |
| GoForbes28 | Though Google's stake in WebKit does present some hope | May 17 19:53 |
| DaemonFC | Webkit is bloated | May 17 19:54 |
| DaemonFC | and it doesn't integrate with Konqueror's Adblock properly | May 17 19:54 |
| DaemonFC | and it doesn't trigger KDE protocol handlers | May 17 19:55 |
| GoForbes28 | how well does it work with GTK DEs? | May 17 19:55 |
| GoForbes28 | Midori (XFCE) uses webkit and so does Epiphany now | May 17 19:55 |
| DaemonFC | Epiphany is EPIC FAIL | May 17 19:56 |
| DaemonFC | Midori is kind of nice | May 17 19:56 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 17 19:56 |
| GoForbes28 | Midori is like an a Free-Software Opera | May 17 19:56 |
| GoForbes28 | :) | May 17 19:56 |
| DaemonFC | The only part of Epiphany that works well is Webkit | May 17 19:57 |
| GoForbes28 | Was Epiphany always an epic failure in your opinion, even during the Gecko years? | May 17 19:57 |
| DaemonFC | the browser itself just totally bites | May 17 19:57 |
| GoForbes28 | Galeon? | May 17 19:57 |
| DaemonFC | Webkit works better than Geko | May 17 19:57 |
| DaemonFC | but the problem is the Epiphany interface conforms to GNOME's stupid HIG | May 17 19:58 |
| DaemonFC | stripped down, useless | May 17 19:58 |
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| DaemonFC | the ad blocker uses an obsolete filter format that NOBODY uses anymore | May 17 19:58 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 17 19:58 |
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| DaemonFC | there's plenty of browsers that use Webkit and have plenty of power user options, extensions, proper ad blocking | May 17 19:58 |
| DaemonFC | the only reason for Epiphany to exist is the kind of morons that use GNOME 3 | May 17 19:59 |
| DaemonFC | telling people to fix GNOME 3 to work sanely using unsupported extensions that will break the first time you upgrade GNOME is not an answer | May 17 19:59 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 17 19:59 |
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| GoForbes28 | Thanks for the rant | May 17 20:03 |
| GoForbes28 | lol | May 17 20:03 |
| GoForbes28 | So Midori isn't so bad? | May 17 20:03 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Setting up a Bugzilla instance for Sixgun Productions. | May 17 20:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] RegExShmegEx | May 17 20:03 | |
| GoForbes28 | Can you elaborate? | May 17 20:03 |
| GoForbes28 | I mean, your experience with Midori? I love it, but I would like to here your perspective DaemonFC | May 17 20:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] My new Ubuntu-flavoured ThinkPad is computing heaven (Guardian/Cory Doctorow): http://bit.ly/jB2nqk | May 17 20:06 | |
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| DaemonFC | Midori is small, it's got all the extensions most people will need, it's fast | May 17 20:07 |
| DaemonFC | uhhh, it doesn't spy on you | May 17 20:07 |
| DaemonFC | it has options | May 17 20:07 |
| DaemonFC | it's so not Epiphany :P | May 17 20:07 |
| DaemonFC | or Chromium | May 17 20:07 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] ♺ @mtrichtaktueel: Een roze poëziemiddag http://bit.ly/iQchtA #Maastricht #gk #gaykrant | May 17 20:08 | |
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| DaemonFC | like I said, I'd like to see the webkit kpart improve | May 17 20:08 |
| DaemonFC | the problem with Webkit for qt is that nokia maintains it | May 17 20:08 |
| DaemonFC | so it's broken in a number of very important ways that will probably not be fixed until Nokia gets rid of it and if someone else picks it up | May 17 20:09 |
| MinceR | midori also likes to block if it wants to play a sound effect and the audio device happens to be busy | May 17 20:09 |
| MinceR | fun. | May 17 20:09 |
| GoForbes28 | MinceR: What? | May 17 20:12 |
| GoForbes28 | What do you mean "block"? | May 17 20:12 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR isn't using Pulseaudio I guess | May 17 20:13 |
| MinceR | indeed | May 17 20:13 |
| DaemonFC | problems like that are common if you aren't using Pulseaudio because ALSA sucks | May 17 20:13 |
| MinceR | GoForbes28: it freezes until the device frees up | May 17 20:13 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: PA sucks harder | May 17 20:13 |
| GoForbes28 | DaemonFC: MinceR: He said, she said | May 17 20:14 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Facebook Likes #Microsoft http://is.gd/Nx0BcM A look at Facebook’s sheer hypocrisy and close ties with Microsoft (which tighten further) | May 17 20:14 | |
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| GoForbes28 | They both suck it sounds like | May 17 20:15 |
| GoForbes28 | is there a third option? | May 17 20:15 |
| DaemonFC | OSS 4 | May 17 20:16 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Facebook Likes Microsoft http://is.gd/Nx0BcM A look at Facebook’s sheer hypocrisy and close ties with Microsoft (which tighten further) | May 17 20:16 | |
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| MinceR | ALSA probably doesn't suck so much if it's properly configured and no broken apps that try to use the low-level API are running | May 17 20:16 |
| DaemonFC | if you want to patch that into your kernel, Ubuntu blocks the DEBs | May 17 20:16 |
| DaemonFC | they install, the modules won't load though | May 17 20:17 |
| MinceR | (i suspect that midori was trying to do just that) | May 17 20:17 |
| MinceR | i've also heard of something called roaraudio, not sure if it's any good | May 17 20:17 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ye Gods gnome-look is horrendous without an adblocker | May 17 20:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @lryan98245 Supreme Court OKs warrantless searches " http://ur1.ca/47cn0 Constitution ok to ignore completely at this point #FAIL | May 17 20:21 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Nation & World | Supreme Court OKs warrantless searches | Seattle Times Newspaper .::. Size~: 68.96 KB | May 17 20:21 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Ok, so its being a little funny with my Identi.ca at the moment. I blame Gwibber. | May 17 20:23 | |
| GoForbes28 | What does Debian use by default? | May 17 20:23 |
| GoForbes28 | ThistleWeb: You are still using Crunchbang? | May 17 20:23 |
| MinceR | probably alsa | May 17 20:24 |
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| ThistleWeb | no, I just replaced it with xubuntu 11.04 | May 17 20:25 |
| GoForbes28 | Thistleweb: Upgrade didn't work out? :( | May 17 20:26 |
| _Goblin | schestowitz, thistleweb forgot to say.....was contacted by the developers of GTC today....they will come on the show for an interview | May 17 20:26 |
| GoForbes28 | !google GTC | May 17 20:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Gateway Technical College | http://www.gtc.edu/ | May 17 20:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Georgia Tax Center Information | https://gtc.dor.ga.gov/ | May 17 20:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - GPU Technology Conference | http://www.nvidia.com/object/gpu_technology_conference.html | May 17 20:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Good 'Til Canceled (GTC) Definition | http://www.investopedia.com/terms/g/gtc.asp | May 17 20:27 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Groklaw - "The blog that made a difference" http://lwn.net/Articles/443301/rss | May 17 20:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] ♺ @koenvervloesem: RT @JeanPaulKeulen: Tuurlijk Word, 'hogeropgeleiden' is geen woord, maar 'hongeropgeleiden' en 'hoeropgeleiden' wel. LOL | May 17 20:29 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #OpenSUSE Status: Not Good http://is.gd/7hgrTv | May 17 20:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Just want to big-up @jordanc and the ICDSoft SureSupport team for helping get my status.net instance working. Bloody amazing support :) | May 17 20:31 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: OpenSUSE Status: Not Good | Techrights .::. Size~: 88.81 KB | May 17 20:31 |
| GoForbes28 | _goblin: What is GTC? | May 17 20:33 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] Removed Mono from fresh installed Gnome on desktop, Skype and quit Facebook account. Zero tolerance! No MS Gestapoware on my rigs :-p | May 17 20:34 | |
| _Goblin | GoForbes28: Greedy Car Thieves | May 17 20:35 |
| _Goblin | http://openbytes.wordpress.com/2011/05/02/linux-gaming-gct-greedy-car-thieves-linux-is-a-profitable-platform/ | May 17 20:36 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Linux gaming: GCT (Greedy Car Thieves) & Linux is a profitable platform! « OpenBytes .::. Size~: 37.52 KB | May 17 20:36 |
| DaemonFC | OpenSuse seems to be in a position to make a comeback from the piss poor Novell crap that went in it | May 17 20:36 |
| DaemonFC | like Mono | May 17 20:36 |
| MinceR | it can go back to plain, regular crap? :> | May 17 20:38 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] AT&T whistleblower Mark Klein, #EFF's witness in NSA cases, quoted by @NewYorker on whistleblower witchhunts https://eff.org/r.15n | May 17 20:39 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @ActiveIngreds Bloggers want to read content written by those who mirror their position/role, not celebrities | May 17 20:43 | |
| GoForbes28 | schestowitz: Have we any luck with LiberalViewer? | May 17 20:45 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] So #Shuttleworth's grand vision for !freesoftware is that every project will become an #opencore company? Cf. http://ur1.ca/47cs4 | May 17 20:49 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Gwibber sorted, must admit I can't see yet what the anti-Unity is about...It just takes getting used to. | May 17 20:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @eff AT&T whistleblower Mark Klein, #EFF's witness in NSA cases, quoted by @NewYorker on whistleblower witchhunts https://eff.org/r.15n | May 17 20:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] FIVE TIMES IN A FUCKING ROW now, I've had to kill #Firefox when it begins because it eats all my RAM & CPU, I'm losing patience with it | May 17 20:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] OpenSUSE Status: Not Good http://is.gd/7hgrTv #suse #novell #gnu #linux #microsoft #swpats #sellout | May 17 20:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] “We are witnessing the bipartisan normalization and legitimization of a national-surveillance state,” New Yorker http://ur1.ca/47crt #1984 | May 17 20:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] I was gonna check a site about 30mins ago, but had to spend all that time fighting fucking #Firefox, I forgot what I intended to do | May 17 20:51 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #IDG Helps Sell the Illusion of #Microsoft as ‘Friend’ of Open Source http://is.gd/CqDKMD #infoworld #networkworld #spin #pr #osbc | May 17 20:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] IDG Helps Sell the Illusion of Microsoft as ‘Friend’ of Open Source http://is.gd/CqDKMD #idc #fakenews #propaganda #centos #linux #gnu | May 17 20:53 | |
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| GoForbes28 | thistleweb: so what happened with Crunchbang? | May 17 20:56 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] G'night @nj3ma | May 17 20:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is fabsh with 292 dents! | May 17 20:58 | |
| ThistleWeb | GoForbes28: it didn't play well with pulse audio in switching devices | May 17 20:59 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[copiesofcopies/@copiesofcopies] @fontana @bkuhn's ideas about public companies may ultimately derive from a disfavored reading of Dodge v. Ford: http://ur1.ca/47cto | May 17 20:59 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @kuro Exploding watermelons put spotlight on Chinese farming practices http://is.gd/Ly9E86 (Guardian) !faw | May 17 21:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @copiesofcopies I know that, but I'm trying to troll @bkuhn :-) Although, I note that @bkuhn did not limit his statement to public companies | May 17 21:01 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Exploding watermelons put spotlight on Chinese farming practices | Environment | The Guardian .::. Size~: 93.11 KB | May 17 21:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Eight-year-old Botox user taken into care in America http://is.gd/lW2Hpv | May 17 21:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] I realize that it's a !bad thing, but I'd kind of like to see a field of exploding watermelons explode http://ur1.ca/47ahg #entertainment | May 17 21:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[copiesofcopies/@copiesofcopies] @fontana put another way: companies cite DvF ideas as "law" excusing antisocial behavior, and the public has bought it without fact-checking | May 17 21:03 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[copiesofcopies/@copiesofcopies] @fontana I'm being generous. (Also, I know you know. I'm just trolling @bkuhn indirectly.) | May 17 21:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] #Shuttleworth: "radical faction" made lives of #OOo devs "hell" by refusing to contribute under #Sun agmt (see http://ur1.ca/47cui ) | May 17 21:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @copiesofcopies I sometimes think we are all trolling @bkuhn in some way or other | May 17 21:04 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Don't American citizens have a problems with "warrantless domestic spying by the N.S.A."~NewYorker !WikiLeaks http://ur1.ca/47crt #1984 | May 17 21:06 | |
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| GoForbes28 | thistleweb: And Xubuntu doesn't use Pulseaudio? | May 17 21:07 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Why is it a/ I can never remember passwords and b/ when I request a reset, they never seem to come? | May 17 21:08 | |
| _Goblin | damn skype | May 17 21:08 |
| _Goblin | can never remember the password and can never seem to get a replacement | May 17 21:08 |
| ThistleWeb | I mean I couldn't get crunchbang to respect devices in pulse audio | May 17 21:09 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Everybody is praising #Bellard's JavaScript x86 emulator but ignoring that it is #nonfree which strikes me as somewhat !disturbing | May 17 21:11 | |
| GoForbes28 | oh | May 17 21:13 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Today is Day 330 of incarceration ... Tomorrow is !FreeByron day ... http://ur1.ca/473s9 ... 9:30 a.m at 361 University Ave. Toronto | May 17 21:13 | |
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| GoForbes28 | I was actually going to give it a try myself :P | May 17 21:13 |
| GoForbes28 | see you later all! | May 17 21:13 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @expatpaul Words fail me ♺ @thistleweb: 8-year-old Botox user taken into care in America http://is.gd/lW2Hpv << some kids need rescuing | May 17 21:16 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] RD @cwebber @jzb writes another article about #GNU #MediaGoblin; why AGPL is a good choice for the project http://ur1.ca/47cv4 | May 17 21:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] good night, @richslxh02 | May 17 21:18 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @stephwho: The Impact of Microblogging on Corporate Communication - please help by answering a couple of questions: http://is.gd/wpfJmX | May 17 21:23 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] I have just assented to the enlightened and progressive !Fedora Project Contributor Agreement http://ur1.ca/47cxw | May 17 21:24 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Goodnight @kuro | May 17 21:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] G'night to you too ;) @sandersch | May 17 21:36 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joshuagay/@joshuagay] RT @dbd @johnsu01 writes a good BoingBoing submission http://ur1.ca/47bmk -- Only 50 more to go to Brick Nintendo: http://ur1.ca/44yfg ! ... | May 17 21:38 | |
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| _Goblin | schestowitz, you there? | May 17 21:38 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @reality @x11r5 Why the fuck are you speaking sense | May 17 21:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @eff AT&T whistleblower Mark Klein, #EFF's witness in NSA cases, quoted by @NewYorker on whistleblower witchhunts https://eff.org/r.15n | May 17 21:46 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jargon/@jargon] i would like to share with u this wallpaper http://is.gd/Fh17w5 !wikileaks | May 17 21:48 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/dmacvicar/status/70577924151050240 | May 17 21:50 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | @dmacvicar: @schestowitz one day you will realize how many people and FOSS projects got hurt with your illness. Get help. | May 17 21:50 |
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| schestowitz | _Goblin: ys | May 17 21:50 |
| schestowitz | are we recording then? | May 17 21:50 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] RT @copiesofcopies @bkuhn you're talking so abstractly that ∄ logical way to respond. ∄ a universal rule on the point you raise. (h/t @b ... | May 17 21:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @reality "Suddenly Identicurse" | May 17 21:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] Open letter to Pamela Jones http://is.gd/i0CN8F #groklaw #techrights | May 17 21:51 | |
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| koolhead17 | hi all | May 17 21:52 |
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| _Goblin | schestowitz, can we give sip a go quickly | May 17 21:57 |
| schestowitz | sure! | May 17 21:58 |
| _Goblin | you'll have to remind me your sip addresss. | May 17 21:58 |
| schestowitz | I'm conncted | May 17 21:58 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @nj3ma "@HuffPostArts: Artists won't see a penny of the RIAA-Limewire settlement http://ur1.ca/47d3n" < it's *never* been for the artists | May 17 21:58 | |
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| schestowitz | 24/7 | May 17 21:58 |
| _Goblin | what is the sip address again? | May 17 21:58 |
| schestowitz | schestowitz at ekiga net | May 17 21:59 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz@SKYPE.SKYPE.SKYPE.developers | May 17 21:59 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | May 17 21:59 |
| schestowitz | patents patent patents | May 17 22:00 |
| schestowitz | Ballmer doesn't care about developers | May 17 22:00 |
| schestowitz | Not even edvrtidsers | May 17 22:00 |
| _Goblin | yeah....thought so | May 17 22:00 |
| _Goblin | no joy at all with Ubuntu and Linphone | May 17 22:00 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, What are your thoughts on Chrome | May 17 22:00 |
| DaemonFC | Evil privacy invading spyware? | May 17 22:01 |
| cubezzz | sorry what was that? I was compiling icecat :) | May 17 22:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !Copyright is not for artists, it's for those who live off the artists: RIAA, Record Labels Win $105M; Artists To See $0 http://ur1.ca/47d3n | May 17 22:01 | |
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| schestowitz | _Goblin: and wkiga? | May 17 22:02 |
| schestowitz | I use ekiga | May 17 22:02 |
| _Goblin | what port do you use? | May 17 22:02 |
| schestowitz | port? default one. | May 17 22:02 |
| _Goblin | for some reason 5060 is being hogged | May 17 22:02 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Join EFF in the SF Mission Friday to discuss social media and the Arab Spring! https://eff.org/r.48V | May 17 22:03 | |
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| schestowitz | _Goblin: i have not changed any settings | May 17 22:08 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] "The Bush people have been let off. The telecom companies got immunity. The only people Obama has prosecuted are the whistle-blowers." !q | May 17 22:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Xamarin Analysed http://is.gd/AOmrFX #mono #moonlight #microsoft #novell #swpats #trojarin | May 17 22:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] #Xamarin Analysed http://is.gd/AOmrFX #dotnot #development #monotouch #monodroid attachmate | May 17 22:09 | |
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| schestowitz | [20:26] <_Goblin> schestowitz, thistleweb forgot to say.....was contacted by the developers of GTC today....they will come on the show for an interview | May 17 22:10 |
| schestowitz | Nice | May 17 22:10 |
| schestowitz | I think cubezzz might be worth having on | May 17 22:10 |
| schestowitz | [20:45] <GoForbes28> schestowitz: Have we any luck with LiberalViewer? | May 17 22:11 |
| schestowitz | Haven't hard anything | May 17 22:11 |
| schestowitz | But thanks for trying so far | May 17 22:11 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] #Xamarin sounds like the name of some patented pharmaceutical product | May 17 22:11 | |
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| schestowitz | [21:08] <_Goblin> can never remember the password and can never seem to get a replacement | May 17 22:12 |
| schestowitz | aSK Clippy | May 17 22:12 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft added it, no? | May 17 22:12 |
| cubezzz | there are rumours of a clippy comeback :) | May 17 22:12 |
| schestowitz | [22:00] <DaemonFC> schestowitz, What are your thoughts on Chrome | May 17 22:13 |
| schestowitz | didn't use it enough | May 17 22:13 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] Version control is my life | May 17 22:13 | |
| schestowitz | cubezzz: he'll be called clappy | May 17 22:13 |
| DaemonFC | Clippy is running the company. He put on some weight though. | May 17 22:13 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @rysiek "The Bush people have been let off. The telecom companies got immunity. The only people Obama has prosecuted are the whistle- ... | May 17 22:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @laurelrusswurm !Copyright is not for artists, it's for those who live off the artists: RIAA, Record Labels Win $105M; Artists To See ... | May 17 22:14 | |
| cubezzz | "Looks like you're running a major corporation. Would you like some help?" | May 17 22:15 |
| DaemonFC | Looks like you can't figure out what anything is worth, want some help? | May 17 22:15 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @ml2mst Removed Mono from fresh installed Gnome on desktop, Skype and quit Facebook account. Zero tolerance! No MS Gestapoware ... | May 17 22:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @Develop4AppUp: Check out the new AppUp MSI packager plus more in new program releases... http://fb.me/122dZiEQk | May 17 22:16 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: New AppUp MSI packager plus more in new program releases | Intel AppUp(SM) developer program .::. Size~: 65.98 KB | May 17 22:16 |
| DaemonFC | Looks like you're trying to destroy Linux, want some help? Have you tried: Calling it a patent infringement. Signing up washed up proprietary UNIX companies to insert your APIs into it. Calling Windows "Shared Source". | May 17 22:18 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @smokku: #GNOME Power Manager running as #Cordia #Hildon StatusMenu plugin http://twitpic.com/4yz4yv | May 17 22:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @MeeGoConference Don't forget to register if you want to attend the Intel App lab during #MeeGoConf on Sunday http://intel.ly/jvje4v | May 17 22:19 | |
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| DaemonFC | Looks like you're trying to clone Google, want some help? Have you tried: Plagiarizing their search results/ Partnering with a search engine nobody uses anymore anyway. Spending millions of dollars on Superbowl ads. | May 17 22:20 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @Develop4AppUp: The guys at TGC are cooking up some cool tools, check this out http://fb.me/YUmLSgxV | May 17 22:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @MeeGoConference: If you can't attend, we will have live streaming & will provide video online after #MeeGoConf http://bit.ly/m6sOLk | May 17 22:21 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] RT @johnsu01 #Nintendo Boss Sent Bricks in #DRM Protest: http://torrentfreak.com/nintendo-boss-being-sent-bricks-in-drm-protest-110517/ !dbd | May 17 22:23 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | May 17 22:23 |
| DaemonFC | Looks like you're trying to revive Internet Explorer, want some help? Have you tried: Realizing that most of your users still have the version of Windows you're not supporting. Realizing that nobody cares if it looks like Chrome if it has no extensions. Realizing that Windows itself is about like being on vacation with a group of Germans. | May 17 22:23 |
| schestowitz | ok, time to do some programming, then I'll see if I can dent news at the same time | May 17 22:24 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, It looks like you need some help. | May 17 22:25 |
| DaemonFC | Want some help? :D | May 17 22:25 |
| schestowitz | spent 3 hours in the gym today, typing between sets | May 17 22:25 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: with what part? | May 17 22:25 |
| schestowitz | We always can use some help in the site | May 17 22:25 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 17 22:25 |
| DaemonFC | you know, stuff | May 17 22:25 |
| _Goblin | schestowitz, SIP is completely no go with Ubuntu... | May 17 22:27 |
| _Goblin | schestowitz, shame because the webcam was detected flawlessly (Unlike Sabayon) | May 17 22:27 |
| DaemonFC | _Goblin, that's because Ubuntu just works | May 17 22:27 |
| _Goblin | for everything else its very good | May 17 22:27 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[piracy/@piracy] We're doing a little revolution here in Spain. We need your support. Please RT #YesWeCamp #NoNosVamos #NoLesVotes | May 17 22:28 | |
| DaemonFC | it crashes real elegantly | May 17 22:28 |
| DaemonFC | it starts corrupting bits of the screen to let you know to save your work | May 17 22:28 |
| _Goblin | Once the test is over I wont be keeping....shame because I could have liked this release...... SIP is the only real hurdle so far, but its a big one | May 17 22:28 |
| DaemonFC | very classy | May 17 22:28 |
| _Goblin | Its been rock solid so far | May 17 22:29 |
| _Goblin | Ubuntu is the only distro where Ive had a working twitter/dent client....all the rest let me down when installed..... | May 17 22:29 |
| DaemonFC | _Goblin, sandstone maybe | May 17 22:29 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Done enough work for today and #needseep. No more #WTF moments please. Had more 'n my share :-( | May 17 22:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] RT @dbs The !Fedora Project Contributor Agreement process is _slick_ (and the terms of the CA are very agreeable). Well done! | May 17 22:29 | |
| _Goblin | and it integrates well into the taskbar....shame the mail client is Evolution....its god awful | May 17 22:30 |
| _Goblin | and its got less features than the Windows 7 starter edition | May 17 22:30 |
| _Goblin | (evolution that is) | May 17 22:31 |
| DaemonFC | Unity you mean | May 17 22:31 |
| DaemonFC | :D | May 17 22:31 |
| _Goblin | Unity is actually very good...... | May 17 22:31 |
| _Goblin | for those not used to a set up similar to my previous one | May 17 22:31 |
| _Goblin | the wife loves the side bar | May 17 22:31 |
| DaemonFC | especially the pancakes | May 17 22:31 |
| DaemonFC | ? | May 17 22:31 |
| DaemonFC | :D | May 17 22:31 |
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| _Goblin | and I love the way the icons wobble alerts Zookeeper style | May 17 22:31 |
| _Goblin | although, blink and you miss them....not good for IRC alerts | May 17 22:32 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Unity, Unity, Unity....what on earth is the fuss about? Sure it needs adapting to, but hey, its quite good. The wife is comfortable with it. | May 17 22:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Kubuntu 11.10 Sneak Peak http://is.gd/dr6MLB "Muon is developed by one of the Kubuntu Developers and uses,unlike KPackageKit, the native.." | May 17 22:44 | |
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| DaemonFC | _Goblin, One does not simply wobble into Mordor | May 17 22:46 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | May 17 22:46 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Free Software Foundation campaigns against Nintendo 3DS http://is.gd/wMjsqx #drm #Nintendo | May 17 22:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @liotier: Any dataset with enough information on people to be interesting also has enough to be de-anonymized: http://j.mp/kC2WGb #privacy | May 17 22:46 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Free Software Foundation campaigns against Nintendo 3DS - ComputerworldUK.com .::. Size~: 88.66 KB | May 17 22:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Why you can't really anonymize your data - O'Reilly Radar .::. Size~: 51.98 KB | May 17 22:46 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Dual-Monitor Setups Are Ideal for Open Source Enthusiasts http://is.gd/uNkuIv "In my experience,developers can definitely benefit from this" | May 17 22:48 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] EFF Applauds New Electronic #Privacy Bill That Tells the Government: Come Back With a Warrant! https://eff.org/r.55q | May 17 22:56 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: EFF Applauds New Electronic Privacy Bill That Tells the Government: Come Back With a Warrant! | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 20.92 KB | May 17 22:56 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] RT @roningirl: Share yr ideas about the Digital Agenda & showcase yr video talents! Best videos shown at #DAA2011,16-17 June in Bxl! htt ... | May 17 22:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] RT @davidherzog: Data paradox: Government agencies collect volumes but analyze little, survey says http://is.gd/ERGd3u #openmo #data #g ... | May 17 22:59 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: IBM Survey: Too Much Data in Public Sector Stymies Effective Analysis .::. Size~: 121.88 KB | May 17 22:59 |
| _Goblin | DaemonFC, I think if you gave 11.04 a run you might change your mind | May 17 23:02 |
| DaemonFC | I did | May 17 23:03 |
| DaemonFC | and it only confirmed Unity was crap | May 17 23:03 |
| DaemonFC | and worse than I expected | May 17 23:03 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] BBC writes about #Linux !! http://is.gd/kSSsPC Wait, why is it always bad news there in the #msbbc http://is.gd/dkk6pE taxpayers pay for it? | May 17 23:04 | |
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| DaemonFC | /home/ryan/Music/Disturbed/Believe/04-Believe.ogg | May 17 23:06 |
| DaemonFC | for some reason I like this crap when I've had too much coffee :P | May 17 23:07 |
| _Goblin | DaemonFC, see this is the problem....everytime a product with a change at distracting the massing away from the MS monopoly comes along, theres a plethora of reasons and people to knock it down.... | May 17 23:08 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/73728542 http://identi.ca/notice/73728577 | May 17 23:08 |
| _Goblin | DaemonFC, why doesn't everybody just say fair enough, lets all just use windows. | May 17 23:08 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Alexandre Oliva (lxoliva)'s status on Tuesday, 17-May-11 22:00:09 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz of course, it's all your fault that Attachmate didn't want Mono | May 17 23:08 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Alexandre Oliva (lxoliva)'s status on Tuesday, 17-May-11 22:00:44 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz important question is whether the new Mono business somehow inherited Novell's special permissions | May 17 23:08 |
| DaemonFC | _Goblin, If all Linux distributions were crashy unstable garbage like Ubuntu, I might say that | May 17 23:09 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 17 23:09 |
| schestowitz | It takes only 2 brain cells to realise mono addresses a market that hardly exists and poses too much risk. It's about ideology, not coding. | May 17 23:09 |
| schestowitz | If it was about coding easily, they would not use the Microsoft menace. | May 17 23:10 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, anyone who really wants .NET that bad is using Windows and is probably a lost cause to convince otherwise | May 17 23:10 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @lxoliva It takes only 2 brain cells to realise mono addresses a market that hardly exists and poses too much risk. | May 17 23:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @lxoliva It's about ideology, not coding. If it was about coding easily, they would not use the Microsoft menace. | May 17 23:11 | |
| _Goblin | DaemonFC, but then I havent found 11.04 crashy or unstable, so that either makes me very lucky (in which case Ive been very lucky with all Ubuntu vers since 8.04) or I'm a liar. | May 17 23:12 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC exaggerates | May 17 23:13 |
| DaemonFC | you're very lucky or a liar | May 17 23:13 |
| schestowitz | no | May 17 23:13 |
| DaemonFC | I had it garble the screen | May 17 23:13 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: what's your sample set? | May 17 23:13 |
| schestowitz | One box? | May 17 23:13 |
| DaemonFC | and barely leave me enough time to log out | May 17 23:13 |
| DaemonFC | before it froze | May 17 23:13 |
| _Goblin | so because you had difficulty Ubuntu is a failure for everyone? | May 17 23:13 |
| DaemonFC | it would start with the top bar | May 17 23:13 |
| schestowitz | yes | May 17 23:13 |
| schestowitz | he's thick | May 17 23:13 |
| DaemonFC | it would become unreadable | May 17 23:13 |
| _Goblin | I had issues with Vista and 7, are they complete failures too? | May 17 23:13 |
| DaemonFC | software that bad can't possibly work well for most people | May 17 23:14 |
| DaemonFC | as evidenced by all the people with similar experiences | May 17 23:14 |
| schestowitz | !google vista 7 reality log | May 17 23:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Vista 7 Reality Log - Techrights | http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Vista_7_Reality_Log | May 17 23:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Windows Mobile Reality Log - Techrights | http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Windows_Mobile_Reality_Log | May 17 23:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Microsoft Reality Log - Techrights | http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Microsoft_Reality_Log | May 17 23:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Team Ratcliffe - McMillin Realty - Chula Vista - Chula Vista, CA | http://www.yelp.com/biz/team-ratcliffe---mcmillin-realty-chula-vista | May 17 23:14 |
| _Goblin | Infact on every os ive used Ive had issues....why don't we just dump computers all together, they obviously dont work. | May 17 23:14 |
| DaemonFC | there's a difference between crashing and doing little but crashing | May 17 23:14 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 17 23:14 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Finally got Bugzilla to send emails as well. Yay! Now off to bed.... | May 17 23:14 | |
| schestowitz | frankly though, many people do complain about unity | May 17 23:14 |
| schestowitz | I read many reviews | May 17 23:15 |
| schestowitz | And some people whom I know as ubuntu-sympathetic don't like unity. Some do like it. | May 17 23:15 |
| _Goblin | Its a big departure from the way I am used to working...... | May 17 23:15 |
| _Goblin | maybe the critisism stems from that. | May 17 23:15 |
| schestowitz | If Ubuntu stayed with gnome upstream, they would be less backlash for sure | May 17 23:15 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: do it with ubuntu | May 17 23:15 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: do it like jono ;-) | May 17 23:16 |
| schestowitz | He posted some unity video IIRC | May 17 23:16 |
| _Goblin | The wife likes Unity.....for her its spot on | May 17 23:16 |
| schestowitz | cool! | May 17 23:16 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] "Whereas wiretap surveillance reqs human operators, data mining automated, meaning entire country can be watched"~ http://ur1.ca/47crt #1984 | May 17 23:16 | |
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| schestowitz | You should blog it | May 17 23:16 |
| _Goblin | I am. | May 17 23:16 |
| _Goblin | :) | May 17 23:16 |
| schestowitz | \0/ | May 17 23:16 |
| _Goblin | shame about SIP....theres something funny going on with 11.04 and it taking over port 5060.... | May 17 23:17 |
| _Goblin | its locked it down.....can't work out why | May 17 23:17 |
| _Goblin | hardware wise though you can tell its Ubuntu.....everything works without fiddling. | May 17 23:18 |
| DaemonFC | your wife doesn't use XChat and fight and fumble with Unity's counter-intuitive GUI | May 17 23:18 |
| DaemonFC | I'm guessing | May 17 23:18 |
| DaemonFC | :D | May 17 23:18 |
| _Goblin | its not that counter productive and I can see where Canonical is going with Unity.... | May 17 23:19 |
| DaemonFC | Windows 95 is an improvement over Unity | May 17 23:19 |
| _Goblin | I think they are appealing to the mobile phone generation who want to use a desktop and trying to keep the mainstream Linux user happy too. | May 17 23:19 |
| MinceR | _Goblin: to cupertino? | May 17 23:19 |
| _Goblin | its got a very "mobilly" feel to it..... | May 17 23:19 |
| DaemonFC | I want to use my real computer with huge screen as a real computer with a huge screen | May 17 23:19 |
| DaemonFC | KDE can do it | May 17 23:20 |
| DaemonFC | GNOME 3 and Unity are retarded and evil | May 17 23:20 |
| DaemonFC | and stupid | May 17 23:20 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 17 23:20 |
| ThistleWeb | DaemonFC: then don't use them | May 17 23:20 |
| ThistleWeb | they're not for you, that's fine | May 17 23:20 |
| _Goblin | I'd say different......evil is pushing it, stupid is your opinion and retarded is not applicable until Ubuntu reaches sentience. | May 17 23:20 |
| DaemonFC | that kind of a design methodology says if you have a triple digit IQ, go use something else | May 17 23:20 |
| DaemonFC | OK | May 17 23:20 |
| DaemonFC | I don't want your crappy Fisher Price desktop | May 17 23:21 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #attachmate already had #mono users, traffic, trademarks, etc. and it decided, "meh. It's not good. Let's throw it." How telling. #dotnot | May 17 23:21 | |
| DaemonFC | I find their design to be condescending to the user | May 17 23:21 |
| _Goblin | DaemonFC, of course the counter to that would be a tripple digit IQ might want to get on with other things rather than worry about their desktop. | May 17 23:21 |
| DaemonFC | it's like they expect that most users really are dumb | May 17 23:21 |
| DaemonFC | and confused by features | May 17 23:22 |
| DaemonFC | they're probably right, but still... | May 17 23:22 |
| _Goblin | and thats been the issue with computers. | May 17 23:22 |
| _Goblin | any os | May 17 23:22 |
| DaemonFC | I think it's more like, if you can't be good, then look different | May 17 23:23 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] I have seen #attachmate described as a "liquidator", just like #Elliot , which communicated w/ Attachmate months before Elliot's bid! #novl | May 17 23:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #mono was liquidated for $0 which is more than this liability is worth. There ought to be more to this story. | May 17 23:24 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/suprfluo/status/70612624445943808 | May 17 23:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @suprfluo: @schestowitz That piece is tuned for max negative effect + inaccurate (auth token != login), and is followed by a Bill Gates story. | May 17 23:25 |
| schestowitz | Typical. It is hard to find Microsoft criticism in the BBC, just praise and excuses. | May 17 23:25 |
| _Goblin | DaemonFC, I think the 1000 Ubuntu derivatives would disagree. | May 17 23:26 |
| DaemonFC | I don't know why a person would buy a $1,000 PC to use it as a really big tablet | May 17 23:26 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, 90% of Ubuntu's problems are their damned desktop | May 17 23:26 |
| DaemonFC | if you fork it and fix it, of course it works | May 17 23:27 |
| _Goblin | DaemonFC, really? Ive deployed alot of Ubuntu.....never had an issue.... | May 17 23:27 |
| MinceR | gn | May 17 23:28 |
| _Goblin | DaemonFC, #!CBL has been returned to me for something else, as has several other distros...Ive had 3 Ubuntu returns and they were due to wanting to run Windows binaries....not Ubuntu issues. | May 17 23:28 |
| DaemonFC | their work is substandard, they haven't done a single thing to make Linux more useful | May 17 23:28 |
| DaemonFC | they should all go kill themselves | May 17 23:28 |
| ThistleWeb | DaemonFC will find any reason to troll about ubuntu, no matter what it is | May 17 23:28 |
| DaemonFC | there, my opinion, the end | May 17 23:28 |
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| ThistleWeb | apparently he'd changed | May 17 23:28 |
| ThistleWeb | seems not | May 17 23:28 |
| _Goblin | DaemonFC, So they should give up on making ubuntu and maybe come and rant in an IRC room? That would be better? | May 17 23:29 |
| DaemonFC | it would be an improvement | May 17 23:29 |
| DaemonFC | Ubuntu would no longer exist :D | May 17 23:29 |
| _Goblin | DaemonFC, when considering who to take more stock in, I look at the Canonical team and users the world over using Ubuntu, then I look at you complaining in #techrights......I think I know where my money on credibility would go. | May 17 23:29 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, people are dumb, some of them eat raw fish eggs | May 17 23:30 |
| _Goblin | and if Ubuntu was so bad, was does it have any users at all? | May 17 23:30 |
| DaemonFC | a few throw themselves off the golden gate bridge | May 17 23:30 |
| DaemonFC | why does Windows have hundreds of users for every Ubuntu user? | May 17 23:31 |
| DaemonFC | it must be great | May 17 23:31 |
| DaemonFC | go use that | May 17 23:31 |
| _Goblin | different | May 17 23:31 |
| _Goblin | OEM | May 17 23:31 |
| _Goblin | and no choice (or little) at time of purchase | May 17 23:31 |
| _Goblin | people have to proactively want to install Ubuntu...its forced on them with Windows | May 17 23:31 |
| _Goblin | when you see how many Ubuntu users there are and consider that, then the Canonical team are not doing bad at all. | May 17 23:32 |
| DaemonFC | right, ok, if they want to put Windows on their system, they paid for the system, you don't have to agree with them, it's their property | May 17 23:32 |
| DaemonFC | same with anything really | May 17 23:32 |
| DaemonFC | I'm just saying I think this trend towards dumbing things down is disturbing | May 17 23:32 |
| _Goblin | yep...but 9/10 windows is pre-loaded....its alot easier to get people to use your OS if its included at purchase. | May 17 23:33 |
| DaemonFC | there's only one major desktop that doesn't do that | May 17 23:33 |
| DaemonFC | that's KDE | May 17 23:33 |
| _Goblin | DaemonFC, the dumbing down has been happening ever since the A500 | May 17 23:33 |
| DaemonFC | ok, people have to choose to buy a Mac | May 17 23:33 |
| DaemonFC | there's dozens of Mac users to every Ubuntu user | May 17 23:33 |
| _Goblin | yep they do | May 17 23:33 |
| _Goblin | and Apple has managed the previously impossible.... | May 17 23:33 |
| _Goblin | turning the Geeky into the fashionable | May 17 23:33 |
| _Goblin | (rightly or wrongly) | May 17 23:34 |
| _Goblin | DaemonFC, if you are against dumbing down, then I assume you are an ASM coder? | May 17 23:34 |
| DaemonFC | I don't see why a computer should be fashionable if it doesn't work well | May 17 23:34 |
| DaemonFC | but again, maybe I'm missing something | May 17 23:35 |
| _Goblin | neither do I, but people buy macs and are happy | May 17 23:35 |
| _Goblin | who are we to say otherwise | May 17 23:35 |
| _Goblin | and I ask again....Are you an ASM coder? | May 17 23:35 |
| DaemonFC | nope | May 17 23:35 |
| _Goblin | whats your tipple then? | May 17 23:35 |
| _Goblin | C#? | May 17 23:35 |
| _Goblin | Ruby? | May 17 23:36 |
| _Goblin | AMOS | May 17 23:36 |
| _Goblin | (thats for cubez) ;) | May 17 23:36 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] US hits credit limit http://is.gd/ffczyO "$14.3 trillion limit on federal borrowing .. risk a financial panic or another recession." | May 17 23:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] AP says "another recession", as if the recession from 2008 is magically over. When did the public get the memo? #bailout #fraud #bank #theft | May 17 23:36 | |
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| DaemonFC | cubezzz claims to use Fedora 1 for some reason | May 17 23:36 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: we will need to verify SIP recording works for us. I've been leaving RMS waiting for too long. | May 17 23:36 |
| _Goblin | I can tell you now....no SIP here. | May 17 23:37 |
| _Goblin | not until I finish my run with 11.04 | May 17 23:37 |
| schestowitz | which application/s? | May 17 23:37 |
| _Goblin | Ekiga, Linphone | May 17 23:37 |
| _Goblin | and another I can't remember.... | May 17 23:38 |
| schestowitz | I got recording to work with a friend | May 17 23:38 |
| schestowitz | But I need to test with you as well | May 17 23:38 |
| schestowitz | and do a show with it, hopefully, to verify there is none of that minute limit | May 17 23:38 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, The Republicans are just rehashing a stunt they pulled on Clinton | May 17 23:39 |
| DaemonFC | back in '94 | May 17 23:39 |
| _Goblin | It will have to wait (with SIP) until I can either work out why the port keeps getting locked down or I install something else. | May 17 23:39 |
| DaemonFC | the Federal government had to shut down for a few days so they could beat some concessions out of him | May 17 23:39 |
| DaemonFC | people send these clowns to office to pull stunts like this that really don't help anyone except the agenda of some special interest groups | May 17 23:40 |
| schestowitz | YAY! | May 17 23:40 |
| schestowitz | My program starts plotting ROC OK | May 17 23:40 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: np | May 17 23:41 |
| DaemonFC | they'll bitch about it back and forth, they might even let some old farts miss their social security check for a week to get them all riled up | May 17 23:41 |
| schestowitz | thanks for doing two episodes this weekend | May 17 23:41 |
| DaemonFC | and then they'll extract concessions after embarrassing the president | May 17 23:41 |
| schestowitz | ThistleWeb and Rusty too | May 17 23:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Future female engineers come together in the Technovation Challenge • by A Googler http://ping.fm/0rUuJ | May 17 23:41 | |
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| schestowitz | _Goblin: my colleagues and mates start listening | May 17 23:41 |
| ThistleWeb | ? | May 17 23:41 |
| schestowitz | they are not all into tech, so what they hear on the show (Linux, copyrights) becomes what they view as normal | May 17 23:42 |
| schestowitz | ThistleWeb: thanks for being on the show I meant | May 17 23:42 |
| ThistleWeb | ahh | May 17 23:42 |
| schestowitz | we did more than usual | May 17 23:42 |
| schestowitz | 4000+ requests for oggs | May 17 23:42 |
| schestowitz | In 2 days | May 17 23:42 |
| schestowitz | which is unusual | May 17 23:43 |
| schestowitz | 90% of reqs are for ogg | May 17 23:43 |
| schestowitz | the non-caches ones | May 17 23:44 |
| schestowitz | 10% for mp3 | May 17 23:44 |
| _Goblin | did you see my earlier about the devs from GCT? | May 17 23:44 |
| schestowitz | *cached | May 17 23:44 |
| ThistleWeb | yep | May 17 23:44 |
| schestowitz | yes, and I responded | May 17 23:44 |
| schestowitz | That's great | May 17 23:44 |
| schestowitz | We can do exclusive coverages | May 17 23:44 |
| _Goblin | I got the mail today.....only had time for a quick reply | May 17 23:44 |
| schestowitz | and then become references to them | May 17 23:44 |
| DaemonFC | How many requested cassette tapes? | May 17 23:44 |
| ThistleWeb | _Goblin: so you're having no luck with sip on the buntu's too huh | May 17 23:44 |
| DaemonFC | :D | May 17 23:44 |
| schestowitz | ThistleWeb: it's young in the network | May 17 23:45 |
| schestowitz | But if we can get more people in the ntwork, devs will improve it | May 17 23:45 |
| schestowitz | I'm getting family to join SIP more and more... 8 people in my SIP list now | May 17 23:45 |
| _Goblin | ThistleWeb, none whatsoever | May 17 23:47 |
| _Goblin | for some reason its locking down any port I try to use | May 17 23:47 |
| _Goblin | not sure the problem. | May 17 23:47 |
| ThistleWeb | I even tried allowing the ports with gufw, still nuttin | May 17 23:47 |
| _Goblin | I'm going to have a fiddle.....if SIP was a goer I would have kept natty on here longer | May 17 23:48 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Spurned By Yahoo!, Hacker Puts Account-Stealing Worm Up For Sale • by Andy Greenberg http://ping.fm/CJi7Y | May 17 23:49 | |
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| _Goblin | I think the biggest thing for me to get my head around is that when an app is maximised your menu/minimise/maximise et al are in the task bar.....I have a big issue getting used to that. | May 17 23:50 |
| _Goblin | and also when an app is running, its pull down menu is put to the taskbar.......hard to get used to that too. | May 17 23:51 |
| *Ziomatrix (~who@pool-173-54-181-184.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net) has joined #techrights | May 17 23:52 | |
| _Goblin | If I was to agree with DaemonFC , I'd say thats the one thing I find counter productive....not good if like me you have several apps open on the desktop then giving focus to the relevant app and then moving to the taskbar to get to the menu....can be a pain and involve excess mouse movement. | May 17 23:53 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @aurele: Free Software Foundation has the Software Freedom Activism Guide http://ur1.ca/47dm7 #lp #FSF #Hacktivism #ftk | May 17 23:53 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] submitted a Slashdot story about Startup Weekend Warsaw: http://ur1.ca/47dmi #swwaw | May 17 23:54 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: After Startup Weekend Warsaw - Slashdot .::. Size~: 37.22 KB | May 17 23:54 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] IRONY: "And Watergate... taught him “that no one is above the law.” http://ur1.ca/47crt ...brings new meaning to "And justice for all." | May 17 23:56 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Charges Against the N.S.A.’s Thomas Drake : The New Yorker .::. Size~: 153.84 KB | May 17 23:56 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @lxoliva ♻ @aurele: Free Software Foundation has the Software Freedom Activism Guide http://ur1.ca/47dm7 #lp #FSF #Hacktivism #ftk | May 17 23:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] An evening with Unity - Yes. Its good. No - It doesn't deserve the harsh words by some. IMO | May 17 23:58 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Who Gets to Decide How the Cloud Works? • by Richard Adhikari http://ping.fm/SruXn | May 17 23:59 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Linux News: Developers: Who Gets to Decide How the Cloud Works? .::. Size~: 62.47 KB | May 17 23:59 |
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