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| schestowitz | > Good to know! But the fact is our communities are being abused by big | Jun 02 00:34 |
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| schestowitz | > corporate players and IBM is included, and Google is just as bad.. The | Jun 02 00:34 |
| schestowitz | > more vendor neutral we are the better. | Jun 02 00:35 |
| schestowitz | > Good to know! But the fact is our communities are being abused by big | Jun 02 00:47 |
| schestowitz | The better term to use here us "use". The big vendors are using people to help increase their own power. | Jun 02 00:47 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2011/06/01/ibm-pr-fails/ | Jun 02 00:47 |
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| schestowitz | > Hi, Roy, | Jun 02 15:30 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 02 15:30 |
| schestowitz | > PXE 3078 has Lotus working for interoperability and M$ working against it. | Jun 02 15:30 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 02 15:30 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.groklaw.net/pdf/iowa/www.iowaconsumercase.org/011607/3000/PX03078.pdf | Jun 02 15:30 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 02 15:31 |
| TechrightsBot | Not a web page! Aborting application/pdf type | Jun 02 15:31 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 02 15:31 |
| schestowitz | Covered here: | Jun 02 15:31 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2007/04/13/office-formats-disclosure/ | Jun 02 15:31 |
| schestowitz | Also in: | Jun 02 15:31 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Bill Gates, 1999: Giving out the Office 2000 Formats to Competitors Seems Crazy | Techrights .::. Size~: 92.6 KB | Jun 02 15:31 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2009/08/17/bill-gates-vs-open-file-formats/ | Jun 02 15:31 |
| schestowitz | I will rerun this observation as IBM becomes our key stronghold for ODF. | Jun 02 15:31 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: How Bill Gates Denied Access to Office File Format Documentation to Stifle Competition | Techrights .::. Size~: 107.36 KB | Jun 02 15:31 |
| schestowitz | > hi roy!! are there any developments concerning the ibm contact?? | Jun 02 15:42 |
| schestowitz | I confronted them for an hour on the phone. | Jun 02 15:42 |
| schestowitz | > what about your coming do you know the approximate date | Jun 02 15:42 |
| schestowitz | Maybe in July or August. | Jun 02 15:42 |
| schestowitz | We need to kick IBM's arse too | Jun 02 15:42 |
| schestowitz | They are becomign arrogant again | Jun 02 15:42 |
| schestowitz | > Bob Sutor deleting my comments on his blog. I am telling him many are | Jun 02 15:43 |
| schestowitz | > tyring to unite LO and OOo communities. I ask him how a dipository of | Jun 02 15:43 |
| schestowitz | > code at Apache will help this. | Jun 02 15:43 |
| cubezzz | I remember I once said "IBM must have pretty good management" | Jun 02 15:48 |
| cubezzz | since they lasted so long... all the old timers laughed though | Jun 02 15:48 |
| schestowitz | Just received this mail... | Jun 02 15:51 |
| schestowitz | I dented it | Jun 02 15:51 |
| schestowitz | BTW, IBM seems to enjoy govt protection | Jun 02 15:51 |
| schestowitz | See wikileaks cable | Jun 02 15:51 |
| oiaohm | Of course | Jun 02 15:51 |
| schestowitz | Many of them in fact show how the govt bats for its franchises | Jun 02 15:52 |
| oiaohm | IBM made a lot of USA weapon control systems. | Jun 02 15:52 |
| schestowitz | Protectionism using politics | Jun 02 15:52 |
| oiaohm | And still does. | Jun 02 15:52 |
| schestowitz | It runs the HPC behind nuclear control systems | Jun 02 15:52 |
| schestowitz | Like those labs which stock them | Jun 02 15:52 |
| schestowitz | But we need to worry about the Soviet systems | Jun 02 15:52 |
| schestowitz | Very out of data, likelihood of accidental nuclear exchange | Jun 02 15:52 |
| schestowitz | They also developed some clustering of bobms back in the days | Jun 02 15:53 |
| schestowitz | So one gegts clustered down into many 1 megaton bombs | Jun 02 15:53 |
| schestowitz | Very scary... these bombs are still around somewhere | Jun 02 15:53 |
| cubezzz | does the USA still have mirvs? | Jun 02 15:53 |
| oiaohm | Really lot of USA and Russia Nuke war heads are getting up to the point of needing remanfactor. | Jun 02 15:54 |
| oiaohm | Ie most would be duds | Jun 02 15:54 |
| oiaohm | Due to how the material in the warheads has broken down. | Jun 02 15:54 |
| oiaohm | The impact of the missle itself and dirty bomb effect would be the bigger worry. | Jun 02 15:55 |
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| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/75176711 | Jun 02 16:06 |
| schestowitz | :-) | Jun 02 16:06 |
| TechrightsBot | @Johnny Null (johnnynull)'s status on Thursday, 02-Jun-11 14:55:53 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Well said. | Jun 02 16:06 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: it'll proabably become a major disaster one day in my lifetime and yours too | Jun 02 16:07 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: Got a working head set now, well with Windows anyway | Jun 02 16:07 |
| schestowitz | It's amazing nothing has happened yet. There was almost an accidental nuclear war in the 90s when there was a misdetection | Jun 02 16:07 |
| schestowitz | And then there's the Cuban missiles crisis | Jun 02 16:08 |
| schestowitz | Almostb nuclear war | Jun 02 16:08 |
| schestowitz | And now there's Fukushima | Jun 02 16:08 |
| schestowitz | BTW, in te British papers today there was something about cancer and mobile phones... so the mainstream press too stops turning a blind eye | Jun 02 16:08 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: good | Jun 02 16:09 |
| oiaohm | Really Fukushima like events are more likely. | Jun 02 16:09 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: No the press is dumb. | Jun 02 16:09 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: woudn't just work with Ubuntu, it's USB | Jun 02 16:09 |
| oiaohm | sebsebseb: the mobile phone report contained two issues. | Jun 02 16:09 |
| sebsebseb | not tried with Mandriva 2010.2 on other computer yet | Jun 02 16:09 |
| oiaohm | Opps | Jun 02 16:09 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: my mic is USB too | Jun 02 16:10 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: the mobile phone report contained two issues | Jun 02 16:10 |
| schestowitz | Works with Ubuntu | Jun 02 16:10 |
| schestowitz | It's also a camera | Jun 02 16:10 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: one is possible cancer | Jun 02 16:10 |
| sebsebseb | well this one probably needs configuring for Linux | Jun 02 16:10 |
| schestowitz | Works great in SIP client | Jun 02 16:10 |
| sebsebseb | and it's made for Windows and Mac OS X really | Jun 02 16:10 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: second is 100 percent confirmed memory distruption. | Jun 02 16:10 |
| schestowitz | But not in MIcrosoft Skype | Jun 02 16:10 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: Ie mobile phones make you dumber. | Jun 02 16:10 |
| schestowitz | Heh | Jun 02 16:11 |
| schestowitz | Good for me, I guess | Jun 02 16:11 |
| schestowitz | I quit them ages ago | Jun 02 16:11 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: did you see my essay? | Jun 02 16:11 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: what one | Jun 02 16:11 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: You have done a few. | Jun 02 16:11 |
| schestowitz | http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2011/05/13/opinion-on-cellphones/ | Jun 02 16:11 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » Critique of Mobile Phones Culture .::. Size~: 39.74 KB | Jun 02 16:11 |
| schestowitz | Didn't cover all the points I wanted | Jun 02 16:11 |
| schestowitz | But most of them | Jun 02 16:11 |
| schestowitz | I really ought to write something technical | Jun 02 16:12 |
| schestowitz | And really go int the literature too | Jun 02 16:12 |
| schestowitz | I chose not to descend into the health implications | Jun 02 16:12 |
| schestowitz | Cause some people think it's the main issue, which becomes a distraction | Jun 02 16:13 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: Its also like the other studies recently that right fields in the right location near brain could increase IQ temp. | Jun 02 16:13 |
| schestowitz | Anyway, we also have antennas in places for phones to have reception. However, they don't broadcast from one's head | Jun 02 16:13 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: basically we hold the transmitter in the wrong location. | Jun 02 16:13 |
| oiaohm | To be beificial to us. | Jun 02 16:13 |
| schestowitz | They are far stronger in terms of magnitude, but the distance can make up a bit | Jun 02 16:13 |
| schestowitz | In one gym I went to they installed an antenna on the rood | Jun 02 16:14 |
| schestowitz | *roof | Jun 02 16:14 |
| schestowitz | I no longer go there | Jun 02 16:14 |
| schestowitz | And residents nearby complained too, some of these get hidden to avoid backlash | Jun 02 16:14 |
| oiaohm | Funny enough depends on the tower. | Jun 02 16:14 |
| schestowitz | Or people are kept in the dark re: the imoact of these metal things being a short radius away from their families | Jun 02 16:14 |
| oiaohm | some phone towers at thier base you cannot get a phone signal from that tower. | Jun 02 16:14 |
| oiaohm | You have to get a signal from a tower futher away. | Jun 02 16:15 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: many hypePhone users are dumb | Jun 02 16:15 |
| schestowitz | MinceR would have a sarcastic remark, I'm sure.. | Jun 02 16:15 |
| oiaohm | It all depneds on the antaters. | Jun 02 16:15 |
| schestowitz | Doesn't matter to a nearby non-user | Jun 02 16:15 |
| oiaohm | What shape they broadcast in. | Jun 02 16:15 |
| schestowitz | I'm talking about people like me | Jun 02 16:15 |
| schestowitz | Who when handed a mobile phone to use try to limit the duration of use | Jun 02 16:16 |
| MinceR | anteaters. | Jun 02 16:16 |
| schestowitz | And prefer if when people nearby also don't linger on too much | Jun 02 16:16 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: I am saying some towers stand at base as a non-user and it can be the lowest signal in the area. | Jun 02 16:16 |
| schestowitz | Doctors (MDs) in the US also speak out about use of phones in buses | Jun 02 16:16 |
| schestowitz | Many phones, high density | Jun 02 16:16 |
| oiaohm | Ie the least exposure can be in the most stupid location. schestowitz | Jun 02 16:16 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: i doubt that the antennae can really afford to fry you | Jun 02 16:17 |
| schestowitz | Many people exposed to many transmissions from other people | Jun 02 16:17 |
| MinceR | as long as you aren't really close to them | Jun 02 16:17 |
| schestowitz | Very close | Jun 02 16:17 |
| schestowitz | Like 5 meters | Jun 02 16:17 |
| schestowitz | maybe 10 | Jun 02 16:17 |
| schestowitz | At the gym | Jun 02 16:17 |
| schestowitz | I wonder if we have one here too | Jun 02 16:17 |
| MinceR | could be a tiny cell with really low power, though | Jun 02 16:17 |
| schestowitz | The roof is too high up for me to see... | Jun 02 16:18 |
| schestowitz | And anyway I'm on the third floor, so.. | Jun 02 16:18 |
| oiaohm | I know some cell towers here. | Jun 02 16:18 |
| oiaohm | They transmit out almost flat. | Jun 02 16:18 |
| schestowitz | I think there used to be mapping | Jun 02 16:18 |
| schestowitz | Probably tro inform users | Jun 02 16:18 |
| schestowitz | Where to get good reception | Jun 02 16:18 |
| oiaohm | So at the base of the tower there is a 30 meter circile black spot. schestowitz | Jun 02 16:18 |
| schestowitz | But it can coversely be used to identify who takes a bribe to set them uo | Jun 02 16:18 |
| schestowitz | This one gym I speak about is at a hotel | Jun 02 16:18 |
| oiaohm | And they are less than 10 meters up schestowitz | Jun 02 16:19 |
| schestowitz | And AFAIK the hotel received money to put that toxic thing in there | Jun 02 16:19 |
| oiaohm | The hotel techiclaly could be in the black spot. | Jun 02 16:19 |
| schestowitz | Maybe | Jun 02 16:19 |
| oiaohm | Everyone outside the hotel wearing it. | Jun 02 16:19 |
| schestowitz | But to me it doesn't matte | Jun 02 16:20 |
| MinceR | iirc radio waves that are sent in all directions are attenuated quadratically | Jun 02 16:20 |
| schestowitz | Actually, phones worked well there | Jun 02 16:20 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: indeed | Jun 02 16:20 |
| schestowitz | Which only tells you why I hate the towers | Jun 02 16:20 |
| MinceR | doesn't really | Jun 02 16:20 |
| oiaohm | Without using a directional airel to location what towers. | Jun 02 16:20 |
| schestowitz | Esp. when they are meters away | Jun 02 16:20 |
| MinceR | also note that the phone tries to use as little power as possible to transmit | Jun 02 16:20 |
| oiaohm | Its a little hard. | Jun 02 16:20 |
| schestowitz | Microwave emission is tiny in comparison | Jun 02 16:20 |
| MinceR | since battery life depends on it | Jun 02 16:21 |
| schestowitz | To get a good statistic sample we need to wait a few more decades and do studies on cancer data | Jun 02 16:21 |
| schestowitz | Cell phone use exploded in the 90s | Jun 02 16:21 |
| oiaohm | It shocked people where I lived at one point. | Jun 02 16:21 |
| schestowitz | Radio-OK | Jun 02 16:21 |
| schestowitz | CRT=OK | Jun 02 16:21 |
| schestowitz | Small doses | Jun 02 16:21 |
| oiaohm | Using the mobile phone I could appear to move 300 kms . | Jun 02 16:21 |
| schestowitz | In comparison | Jun 02 16:22 |
| oiaohm | Rare materials in mountains. | Jun 02 16:22 |
| schestowitz | There are some nice charts showing the scale by going by orders of magnitude | Jun 02 16:22 |
| MinceR | cell phones _are_ radio | Jun 02 16:22 |
| oiaohm | It was a very long range reflection. | Jun 02 16:22 |
| schestowitz | Even microwave (proximity, not the food) is a small doze only | Jun 02 16:22 |
| schestowitz | So all these sources that can affect cellular structure and lead to cancer were typically on another level of granularity | Jun 02 16:23 |
| schestowitz | Now we have wi-fi too | Jun 02 16:23 |
| schestowitz | Radio = reception | Jun 02 16:23 |
| schestowitz | No broadcast | Jun 02 16:23 |
| schestowitz | Same with cable TV | Jun 02 16:23 |
| schestowitz | Now it's two-way and range is about 100 meters | Jun 02 16:23 |
| schestowitz | G | Jun 02 16:23 |
| schestowitz | G4 | Jun 02 16:23 |
| schestowitz | or 4G even | Jun 02 16:23 |
| schestowitz | Was thinking of gravitational force.. | Jun 02 16:23 |
| schestowitz | [16:22] <MinceR> cell phones _are_ radio | Jun 02 16:24 |
| schestowitz | That also acts as a broadcasting tower | Jun 02 16:24 |
| schestowitz | and you don't hold a radio to yout hear usually | Jun 02 16:24 |
| schestowitz | It's in your pocket/desk/living room | Jun 02 16:24 |
| schestowitz | /hear./ear/ | Jun 02 16:24 |
| MinceR | it's on my belt :> | Jun 02 16:24 |
| schestowitz | For most people it ain't | Jun 02 16:25 |
| MinceR | and it's not a broadcasting tower | Jun 02 16:25 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: check your sperm cut :-/ | Jun 02 16:25 |
| schestowitz | *count | Jun 02 16:25 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: you switch it off | Jun 02 16:25 |
| MinceR | it uses just enough power for the base station to receive its message | Jun 02 16:25 |
| schestowitz | ? | Jun 02 16:25 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: when inactive | Jun 02 16:25 |
| MinceR | i don't switch it off, i can't receive calls if it's off | Jun 02 16:25 |
| schestowitz | the phones kick into non-idle mode when on call | Jun 02 16:25 |
| MinceR | though the radio is off most of the time technically | Jun 02 16:25 |
| schestowitz | Some people use their phone ~1 hour/day | Jun 02 16:25 |
| MinceR | for one thing, it only sends in its own time slice :> | Jun 02 16:26 |
| schestowitz | Cause it has gotten so much cheaper and 'hip' | Jun 02 16:26 |
| schestowitz | Like talking in low quality to people for ages is worthwhole | Jun 02 16:26 |
| MinceR | on average, i make 30s of call/day | Jun 02 16:26 |
| schestowitz | I'd rather meet face to face | Jun 02 16:26 |
| schestowitz | I can see and touch the person I speak to | Jun 02 16:26 |
| MinceR | ew | Jun 02 16:26 |
| schestowitz | Can be girls, too | Jun 02 16:27 |
| schestowitz | Just making a point | Jun 02 16:27 |
| schestowitz | Or maybe you don't like face-to-face interaction in general | Jun 02 16:27 |
| schestowitz | And now the "touch" part | Jun 02 16:27 |
| MinceR | i don't mind it but it often isn't practical | Jun 02 16:27 |
| schestowitz | Which was figure of speech in a sense | Jun 02 16:27 |
| MinceR | in those cases i prefer irc to phones, though | Jun 02 16:27 |
| schestowitz | Point is, even video chat is not the same | Jun 02 16:27 |
| schestowitz | You can't hand stuff over to people | Jun 02 16:27 |
| MinceR | you can hand data over to people | Jun 02 16:28 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: better if you speak with a girl to meet face to face | Jun 02 16:28 |
| MinceR | (30s means 30 seconds, obviously) | Jun 02 16:28 |
| schestowitz | And hey, they might touich your arm to show affection, too :-) | Jun 02 16:28 |
| MinceR | i don't get enough chances to do that | Jun 02 16:28 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: yes, I know | Jun 02 16:28 |
| schestowitz | Get a pag then | Jun 02 16:28 |
| schestowitz | *pager | Jun 02 16:28 |
| schestowitz | tessier carries one AFAIK | Jun 02 16:28 |
| schestowitz | for nagios and such stuff | Jun 02 16:29 |
| schestowitz | brevity | Jun 02 16:29 |
| MinceR | i can just receive text messages over sms | Jun 02 16:29 |
| schestowitz | true | Jun 02 16:29 |
| ender_33 | 11:23 <@schestowitz> And now the "touch" part | Jun 02 16:29 |
| ender_33 | as long as its legal ;) | Jun 02 16:29 |
| schestowitz | /now/not/ | Jun 02 16:29 |
| schestowitz | ender_33: I didn't say touch gently! | Jun 02 16:29 |
| schestowitz | Maybe someone makes you angry | Jun 02 16:30 |
| ender_33 | if she has an iphone are you going to reject her? | Jun 02 16:30 |
| schestowitz | Then you use scale to make the other side step back | Jun 02 16:30 |
| schestowitz | It's easy for trolls to make threats when they sit naked in the basement with a keyboard | Jun 02 16:30 |
| schestowitz | ender_33: no | Jun 02 16:30 |
| schestowitz | I don't sleep with phones | Jun 02 16:30 |
| schestowitz | I know people who do | Jun 02 16:31 |
| schestowitz | Some put it in their bedside | Jun 02 16:31 |
| schestowitz | Which UI heard MDs discourage | Jun 02 16:31 |
| schestowitz | It emits radiation when it needn't | Jun 02 16:31 |
| MinceR | just hope the hypePhone won't explode when it's close to you :> | Jun 02 16:31 |
| MinceR | everything emits radiation | Jun 02 16:31 |
| schestowitz | They said something about people who use their people as alarm clock and such... putting it near the pillow | Jun 02 16:31 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: not at same scale | Jun 02 16:32 |
| MinceR | it doesn't need to be near the pillow for that, it just needs to be audible :> | Jun 02 16:32 |
| schestowitz | Hold on... will try to find a chart | Jun 02 16:32 |
| schestowitz | Got it | Jun 02 16:32 |
| schestowitz | http://xkcd.com/radiation/ | Jun 02 16:32 |
| schestowitz | Watch it carefully | Jun 02 16:32 |
| TechrightsBot | @: | Jun 02 16:32 |
| schestowitz | Very good chart | Jun 02 16:32 |
| schestowitz | bookmarked now | Jun 02 16:32 |
| MinceR | there's the cell phone dose :> | Jun 02 16:37 |
| MinceR | under the blue bubble | Jun 02 16:37 |
| MinceR | and that's using, so probably not an idle cell phone | Jun 02 16:37 |
| schestowitz | I didn't know flights were so 'lethal' | Jun 02 16:38 |
| schestowitz | Quite shocking really | Jun 02 16:38 |
| schestowitz | What's the emitter? | Jun 02 16:38 |
| schestowitz | Another reason, other than pollution, to reduce air travel | Jun 02 16:38 |
| MinceR | not sure | Jun 02 16:39 |
| MinceR | could be due to reduced shielding of the atmosphere or the fact that you sit near a crowd | Jun 02 16:39 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: ionising | Jun 02 16:40 |
| schestowitz | It's a classification issue | Jun 02 16:40 |
| schestowitz | [16:39] <MinceR> could be due to reduced shielding of the atmosphere or the fact that you sit near a crowd | Jun 02 16:40 |
| schestowitz | Yeah, I thought about the atmosphere factor | Jun 02 16:40 |
| schestowitz | But it's rather interesting people like myself don't know this | Jun 02 16:40 |
| schestowitz | It's worse than some x-rays, by far | Jun 02 16:40 |
| MinceR | doesn't look like it to me | Jun 02 16:41 |
| schestowitz | Some things are daily | Jun 02 16:41 |
| schestowitz | And some annual | Jun 02 16:41 |
| schestowitz | Which makes it harder to read | Jun 02 16:41 |
| schestowitz | E.g. | Jun 02 16:42 |
| schestowitz | Taking one flight | Jun 02 16:42 |
| schestowitz | vs living in a house for a year | Jun 02 16:42 |
| schestowitz | Why not scale to "living in house _For one day_"? | Jun 02 16:42 |
| schestowitz | Or living next to power plant | Jun 02 16:43 |
| schestowitz | I think the point of this chart though is further down | Jun 02 16:43 |
| schestowitz | Ionising radiation | Jun 02 16:43 |
| schestowitz | To show the lethal effect in fukushima | Jun 02 16:43 |
| schestowitz | It's from around that time | Jun 02 16:43 |
| *schestowitz eats banana | Jun 02 16:44 | |
| schestowitz | 0.1 for me :-) | Jun 02 16:44 |
| ender_33 | http://xkcd.com/906/ | Jun 02 16:45 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: xkcd: Advertising Discovery .::. Size~: 8.09 KB | Jun 02 16:45 |
| MinceR | possibly because living in house for one day is negligible | Jun 02 16:45 |
| schestowitz | yes | Jun 02 16:47 |
| schestowitz | ender_33: good one... | Jun 02 16:49 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/75179901 | Jun 02 16:49 |
| TechrightsBot | @Ufa (ufa)'s status on Thursday, 02-Jun-11 15:36:14 UTC - Identi.ca: Tabela educativa sobre Radiação, do xkcd: http://xkcd.com/radiation/ (via @schestowitz) | Jun 02 16:49 |
| TechrightsBot | @: | Jun 02 16:49 |
| ender_33 | the funny thing I noticed myself is that news papers aren't as strict as wikipedia | Jun 02 16:56 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/bob_sutor?utm_campaign=dm&utm_content=profile&utm_medium=email&utm_source=dm | Jun 02 16:59 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Bob Sutor (bob_sutor) on Twitter .::. Size~: 54.22 KB | Jun 02 16:59 |
| schestowitz | Damage control | Jun 02 16:59 |
| schestowitz | "http://twitter.com/bob_sutor?utm_campaign=dm&utm_content=profile&utm_medium=email&utm_source=dm" | Jun 02 17:00 |
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| schestowitz | "I didn't delete any comments on OO.o, there is one I haven't gotten to yet because I've been on the phone all morning. " | Jun 02 17:00 |
| schestowitz | Now he emails me too | Jun 02 17:00 |
| schestowitz | Let's see.. | Jun 02 17:00 |
| schestowitz | ender_33: newspapers don't need to cite | Jun 02 17:00 |
| schestowitz | They just need to recite 'common knowledge' | Jun 02 17:01 |
| schestowitz | even when it's biased | Jun 02 17:01 |
| schestowitz | and they can mix 90% truth with 10% fabrication, nobody will notice | Jun 02 17:01 |
| schestowitz | They can phase in some schools of thoughts this way | Jun 02 17:01 |
| schestowitz | e.g. re Libya | Jun 02 17:01 |
| schestowitz | Sutor even mailed me re damage control | Jun 02 17:02 |
| ender_33 | I think newspapers should have to cite | Jun 02 17:03 |
| ender_33 | otherwise its just propaganda and lies | Jun 02 17:03 |
| schestowitz | My source was ill-informed or impatient. | Jun 02 17:03 |
| schestowitz | ender_33: indeed | Jun 02 17:03 |
| ender_33 | AKA THe Guardian UK | Jun 02 17:03 |
| schestowitz | I've always said that about 'news' sites too | Jun 02 17:03 |
| schestowitz | Watch IDG | Jun 02 17:03 |
| schestowitz | OR Reuters | Jun 02 17:03 |
| schestowitz | They don't bother with biblio or even hyperlinks | Jun 02 17:04 |
| ender_33 | I think they should at least be held to the wikipedian standard | Jun 02 17:04 |
| ender_33 | [citation needed] | Jun 02 17:04 |
| ender_33 | lol | Jun 02 17:04 |
| schestowitz | They treat it like it's printer on paper, but even on papr you can put links at the end | Jun 02 17:04 |
| schestowitz | See MS Jack | Jun 02 17:04 |
| schestowitz | He never cites anything | Jun 02 17:04 |
| schestowitz | Even in his blog AFAIK | Jun 02 17:04 |
| ender_33 | yeah | Jun 02 17:04 |
| schestowitz | Just throws out his junk | Jun 02 17:04 |
| schestowitz | Android has "viruses" | Jun 02 17:04 |
| ender_33 | see what happens though | Jun 02 17:04 |
| schestowitz | [citation]? | Jun 02 17:04 |
| schestowitz | Wintel press | Jun 02 17:04 |
| ender_33 | Jack doesn't need sources, but Roy does | Jun 02 17:05 |
| schestowitz | They say it, therefore it must be true | Jun 02 17:05 |
| schestowitz | Ed Bought | Jun 02 17:05 |
| schestowitz | I gave him wikipedia as source | Jun 02 17:05 |
| schestowitz | Then it's "not reliable" | Jun 02 17:05 |
| ender_33 | you're being held to a different standard than other journalists | Jun 02 17:05 |
| schestowitz | I gave him MSNBC | Jun 02 17:05 |
| schestowitz | That too was not good enough for him | Jun 02 17:05 |
| schestowitz | ender_33: right... cause they went to some school | Jun 02 17:06 |
| ender_33 | yale ;) | Jun 02 17:06 |
| ender_33 | harvard ;) | Jun 02 17:06 |
| ender_33 | etc | Jun 02 17:06 |
| schestowitz | "Bob Sutor @bob_sutor is now following you (@schestowitz). " | Jun 02 17:08 |
| schestowitz | ender_33: no, journalism | Jun 02 17:08 |
| schestowitz | I can imagine what they teach there | Jun 02 17:08 |
| schestowitz | Heck, I reckon tabloid people go there too | Jun 02 17:08 |
| schestowitz | Maybe they are the dropouts/bad students | Jun 02 17:09 |
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| ender_33 | journalism doesn't require any sort of certification or degree | Jun 02 17:09 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/75179901 | Jun 02 17:10 |
| TechrightsBot | @Ufa (ufa)'s status on Thursday, 02-Jun-11 15:36:14 UTC - Identi.ca: Tabela educativa sobre Radiação, do xkcd: http://xkcd.com/radiation/ (via @schestowitz) | Jun 02 17:10 |
| TechrightsBot | @: | Jun 02 17:10 |
| ender_33 | such schools only provide training so you don't suck at it | Jun 02 17:10 |
| schestowitz | ender_33: true.. | Jun 02 17:10 |
| schestowitz | yes | Jun 02 17:10 |
| schestowitz | But they also give you a title | Jun 02 17:10 |
| ender_33 | also indoctrination so that you don't think outside the box | Jun 02 17:10 |
| schestowitz | If you are not one already | Jun 02 17:10 |
| schestowitz | You can say you are a journalist cause you graduated from something | Jun 02 17:10 |
| schestowitz | ender_33: that too | Jun 02 17:10 |
| schestowitz | Kindergarten is like that | Jun 02 17:10 |
| schestowitz | Political correctness too | Jun 02 17:10 |
| ender_33 | that's what Bertrand Russell said about kindergarden | Jun 02 17:11 |
| ender_33 | social engineering | Jun 02 17:11 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/75182636 | Jun 02 17:15 |
| TechrightsBot | @Julian Aloofi (nailuj)'s status on Thursday, 02-Jun-11 16:11:13 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz With that argumentation, would you call property "unnatural power" as well? | Jun 02 17:16 |
| schestowitz | Did he? :-) | Jun 02 17:16 |
| schestowitz | Well, he's not alone | Jun 02 17:16 |
| schestowitz | I too learned this from someone, not Russell | Jun 02 17:16 |
| schestowitz | But... | Jun 02 17:16 |
| schestowitz | Social engineering is good to a degreee | Jun 02 17:16 |
| schestowitz | A civilisation of people raised on totally different principles would be chaos | Jun 02 17:16 |
| schestowitz | Imagine a kid who thinks it's OK to stone dogs | Jun 02 17:16 |
| schestowitz | [seen that before.. some religious loons] | Jun 02 17:17 |
| schestowitz | And another who eats it for dinner | Jun 02 17:17 |
| schestowitz | Another who brings a can of worms to eat at lunchtime at school | Jun 02 17:17 |
| schestowitz | That's just animal examples | Jun 02 17:17 |
| schestowitz | You could go into other aspects for defining norms | Jun 02 17:17 |
| schestowitz | We communicate via rules that are mutually accepted or imposed from above | Jun 02 17:17 |
| schestowitz | Religion and politics are still sacred cows in most places.. can't say /certain/ things about them , evven if it's true | Jun 02 17:18 |
| MinceR | Sacred Chao | Jun 02 17:19 |
| schestowitz | Someone has just sent me stuff with the Obama "birth certificate " theory... | Jun 02 17:20 |
| schestowitz | :-/ | Jun 02 17:20 |
| schestowitz | " | Jun 02 17:20 |
| schestowitz | > Grüß Gott Herr Schestowitz, Please see the attached PDF letter. | Jun 02 17:20 |
| schestowitz | Thank you. Can I publish this for audience to provide feedback and maybe print & share? I should add that I do not agree about the Obama views, but then again, I don't deny other people their interpretations. | Jun 02 17:20 |
| schestowitz | " | Jun 02 17:20 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: but... it MIGHT offened someone [who is gullible] | Jun 02 17:20 |
| schestowitz | I has this chat today at the spa about Chopra's scam | Jun 02 17:21 |
| schestowitz | Cause I confronted this charlatans who makes money selling books filled with lies which he later defends by calling them metaphors | Jun 02 17:21 |
| schestowitz | People are stupid | Jun 02 17:21 |
| schestowitz | Many are | Jun 02 17:22 |
| schestowitz | And those who exploiut the stupid, like Microsoft and Apple do, become rich | Jun 02 17:22 |
| schestowitz | Those who speak to free thinkers are addressing a small audience | Jun 02 17:22 |
| schestowitz | This is a travesty | Jun 02 17:22 |
| schestowitz | There are three types of WIndows uisers | Jun 02 17:22 |
| schestowitz | Those who hate tolerate Windows | Jun 02 17:22 |
| schestowitz | Those who hate Windows | Jun 02 17:23 |
| schestowitz | Those who don't care about Window | Jun 02 17:23 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft exploits some groups to reinforce the third group's trap | Jun 02 17:23 |
| schestowitz | ender_33: now you know why kindergarten is funded forcibly by the masses and is obligatory | Jun 02 17:24 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/nj3ma/status/76320242367864832 | Jun 02 17:24 |
| TechrightsBot | @nj3ma: @schestowitz Such a pill does exist *adds blue superscript here* | Jun 02 17:24 |
| schestowitz | I've met people who produce fake research for these scams. The scammers happen to include some big phramas too (who collude). | Jun 02 17:24 |
| schestowitz | http://www.linux-magazin.de/content/view/full/60019 | Jun 02 17:30 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: WebODF: Freier Office-Betrachter für Android « NEWS « Linux-Magazin Online .::. Size~: 40.25 KB | Jun 02 17:30 |
| ender_33 | in ontario they passed a law making school mandatory until the age of 18 | Jun 02 17:37 |
| schestowitz | Here in Manchester leashes for humans become popular | Jun 02 17:39 |
| schestowitz | They humanise the leash by making it look different from dog's | Jun 02 17:39 |
| schestowitz | And the parents walk around with their kids on a leash | Jun 02 17:40 |
| schestowitz | Kind of unnerving IMHO | Jun 02 17:40 |
| schestowitz | Usually they carry a pram too | Jun 02 17:40 |
| schestowitz | But not always, it's not always justified | Jun 02 17:40 |
| schestowitz | http://samiam.org/blog/20110529.html "There is a reason why Windows, not Linux, is my primary desktop OS. " | Jun 02 17:42 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Sam Trenholme's webpage .::. Size~: 4.96 KB | Jun 02 17:42 |
| ender_33 | wtf? | Jun 02 17:42 |
| ender_33 | real leashes for kids? | Jun 02 17:42 |
| schestowitz | Because he won't pay for Red Hat? :-) | Jun 02 17:42 |
| schestowitz | ender_33: they don't look like leashes | Jun 02 17:42 |
| schestowitz | They get strapped around the kid | Jun 02 17:42 |
| schestowitz | And it's rubbery | Jun 02 17:42 |
| schestowitz | Enough to not make the kid look like a pet | Jun 02 17:42 |
| schestowitz | "It's not underwear!!!! It's a Speedo, damn it!" | Jun 02 17:42 |
| ender_33 | his blog should be called "I am Sam" because he has autism | Jun 02 17:42 |
| schestowitz | "The bottom line is this: I'm a married man today. I really don't have time to struggle with poorly documented programs which don't give out helpful error messages and require source-level hacking to figure out what the !@#$ is going on. " | Jun 02 17:43 |
| schestowitz | Well, ACTUALLY | Jun 02 17:43 |
| schestowitz | Deleting malware and junk | Jun 02 17:43 |
| schestowitz | That's for bachelors | Jun 02 17:43 |
| schestowitz | I don't have time for such nonsense | Jun 02 17:43 |
| schestowitz | CentOS runs Techrights nicely | Jun 02 17:43 |
| schestowitz | Just one incident in the past 3 months | Jun 02 17:44 |
| schestowitz | Load related | Jun 02 17:44 |
| schestowitz | And my desktop has run the SAME KDE session for over 2 months | Jun 02 17:44 |
| schestowitz | No login screen since March | Jun 02 17:44 |
| ender_33 | yeah what about the poorly documented windows programs | Jun 02 17:44 |
| schestowitz | Because I'm a bachelor.. got to get real work done :-) | Jun 02 17:44 |
| ender_33 | what about all those helpful error messages microsoft gives you via BSOD's and program crashes | Jun 02 17:45 |
| schestowitz | x0003044F | Jun 02 17:45 |
| schestowitz | x000F0C4 | Jun 02 17:45 |
| ender_33 | yeah | Jun 02 17:45 |
| ender_33 | how is that helpful | Jun 02 17:45 |
| schestowitz | missing 0 | Jun 02 17:45 |
| ender_33 | lol | Jun 02 17:45 |
| schestowitz | Hello, I would like to speak to Microsoft | Jun 02 17:46 |
| schestowitz | "Hi, this is Microsoft India, how can I help? | Jun 02 17:46 |
| schestowitz | Yeah, well... | Jun 02 17:46 |
| schestowitz | I get this error message | Jun 02 17:46 |
| ender_33 | you cant call microsoft and get help without paying | Jun 02 17:46 |
| schestowitz | And it says, like ...0xF0C4C0C4 | Jun 02 17:46 |
| schestowitz | But I'm straight | Jun 02 17:46 |
| ender_33 | they refer you to the computer store you purchased a computer from | Jun 02 17:46 |
| schestowitz | So I am not willing to fix it. I want a refund | Jun 02 17:46 |
| schestowitz | ender_33: those shopw would refer back to MS | Jun 02 17:47 |
| schestowitz | Or your next-door nighbour | Jun 02 17:47 |
| schestowitz | aka Microsoft's volunteer workforce | Jun 02 17:47 |
| schestowitz | Forcible | Jun 02 17:47 |
| schestowitz | "If you don't help me fix Windows, then you hate me" | Jun 02 17:47 |
| ender_33 | lol | Jun 02 17:47 |
| schestowitz | The support double-arrow... X says speak to Y, Y says speak to X | Jun 02 17:48 |
| ender_33 | yeah it is a volunteer workforce | Jun 02 17:48 |
| schestowitz | When that happens, the product's maker deserves nuking | Jun 02 17:48 |
| schestowitz | Not literally | Jun 02 17:48 |
| ender_33 | microsoft would sell us these OEM office licenses that don't come with a DVD or CD | Jun 02 17:48 |
| schestowitz | ender_33: like I said, not for bachelors | Jun 02 17:48 |
| schestowitz | You end up fixing other people's problems | Jun 02 17:48 |
| schestowitz | Like those who don't know anything about computers | Jun 02 17:48 |
| ender_33 | we would sell them with stuff, and microsoft wanted us to physically install it for the user and tell them that if they wanted a copy they would have to order it from microsoft and pay shipping | Jun 02 17:48 |
| schestowitz | down the drain | Jun 02 17:48 |
| ender_33 | well | Jun 02 17:49 |
| schestowitz | Some make a career out of it | Jun 02 17:49 |
| ender_33 | i dont do free labour | Jun 02 17:49 |
| ender_33 | so i charged to do it | Jun 02 17:49 |
| schestowitz | Minimum wage or thereabouts | Jun 02 17:49 |
| schestowitz | Cause it's a basic skills and come free from the "neighbour" | Jun 02 17:49 |
| schestowitz | People who support Linux, as I do, get paid well for little work | Jun 02 17:49 |
| schestowitz | I can get 8 hours' wage for 1 hour of actual maintenance work | Jun 02 17:49 |
| ender_33 | sometimes | Jun 02 17:50 |
| ender_33 | from the few places I've worked, those who cut costs with Linux did so because they were cheap and they didn't pay anyone very well | Jun 02 17:50 |
| schestowitz | Debian and centOS do all the hard work | Jun 02 17:50 |
| ender_33 | factorydirect.ca and canadacomputers.com are both examples | Jun 02 17:51 |
| schestowitz | ender_33: you need to fight the good positions | Jun 02 17:51 |
| schestowitz | Not impossible | Jun 02 17:51 |
| ender_33 | they cut costs everywhere to increase profit at the expense of the employees | Jun 02 17:51 |
| schestowitz | Back when I worked at Manchester Computing for years it was easy | Jun 02 17:51 |
| schestowitz | Maybe answer the phone a couple of times per day | Jun 02 17:51 |
| schestowitz | The rest is monitoring | Jun 02 17:51 |
| schestowitz | As long as the servers keep chugging along (BSD and Linux), you're doing fine | Jun 02 17:52 |
| ender_33 | An employee from Canada Computers (london ontario) was fired for telling the mississauga location they were getting paid via direct banking deposits (they didnt want us to know how cheap the company was) | Jun 02 17:52 |
| schestowitz | And you need to know what to do in the cases where something goes amiss | Jun 02 17:52 |
| schestowitz | How big is London (CA)? | Jun 02 17:53 |
| schestowitz | I remember chatting with some girl from there when I was a teenager | Jun 02 17:53 |
| schestowitz | But I never see it in the news | Jun 02 17:53 |
| schestowitz | It must be a very small town with no exposure... like Thunderbay | Jun 02 17:53 |
| schestowitz | I had a g/f there, she moved to Winnipeg though | Jun 02 17:53 |
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| schestowitz | Everyone who heard CA thinks Toronto, Ottawa, Vancouver, Montreal | Jun 02 17:54 |
| schestowitz | The rest they assume to be ice and trees | Jun 02 17:54 |
| schestowitz | and tar sand :-) | Jun 02 17:54 |
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| schestowitz | > Don't forget it is the format, ODF, which is at the bottom of the | Jun 02 18:07 |
| schestowitz | > contention. | Jun 02 18:07 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 02 18:07 |
| schestowitz | > See page one of PXE 3078 from 12 years ago: | Jun 02 18:07 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.groklaw.net/pdf/iowa/www.iowaconsumercase.org/011607/3000/PX03078.pdf | Jun 02 18:08 |
| TechrightsBot | Not a web page! Aborting application/pdf type | Jun 02 18:08 |
| schestowitz | http://i.imgur.com/zfOBY.gif | Jun 02 18:11 |
| TechrightsBot | Not a web page! Aborting image/gif type | Jun 02 18:11 |
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| schestowitz | I thought I'd pass it by you in case you disagree: http://techrights.org/2011/06/02/candid-suggestion-for-ibm/ | Jun 02 19:59 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: IBM Needs to Explain Office Suite Patents (and How Bill Gates Was Attacking Interoperability With Lotus, Using Patents Against OpenOffice.org) | Techrights .::. Size~: 91.62 KB | Jun 02 19:59 |
| schestowitz | I tried to take into accoutn gnufreex' views | Jun 02 19:59 |
| schestowitz | And I will ping IBM's VPs on it | Jun 02 20:00 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/75189601 | Jun 02 20:02 |
| TechrightsBot | @Ãyvind A. Holm (sunny256)'s status on Thursday, 02-Jun-11 17:44:49 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Awesome. Pretty risky, though. If he's the type that parks like that, he'd probably ram his way out again. How did it turn out? | Jun 02 20:02 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/conversation/72745165#notice-75189601 | Jun 02 20:02 |
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| schestowitz | Maybe he thinks it's me who did it | Jun 02 20:02 |
| gnufreex | lol | Jun 02 20:03 |
| gnufreex | schestowitz: good article. But everybody forgets tha LibreOffice licenses all new source files to MPL. It plays a role to. | Jun 02 20:05 |
| gnufreex | Strange that Bkuhn forgot that. | Jun 02 20:05 |
| gnufreex | He probably didn't even know it. | Jun 02 20:05 |
| schestowitz | MPL?! | Jun 02 20:12 |
| schestowitz | I didn't know, either | Jun 02 20:12 |
| gnufreex | I think I told you that | Jun 02 20:12 |
| schestowitz | Gosh, some phantom process seems to be sucking up all my resources since I switched off the memory monitor | Jun 02 20:13 |
| gnufreex | Go--oo was having CDDL | Jun 02 20:13 |
| schestowitz | OK | Jun 02 20:13 |
| gnufreex | And libreoffice moved to MPL | Jun 02 20:13 |
| gnufreex | which is same | Jun 02 20:13 |
| gnufreex | But washes Sun from it | Jun 02 20:13 |
| schestowitz | ok | Jun 02 20:14 |
| schestowitz | well, we'll see what sutor says (if anything) | Jun 02 20:14 |
| *gnufreex watches TV, Vlade Divac documentary "Once Brothers" | Jun 02 20:14 | |
| gnufreex | If someone wants to watch what I am watching, search "Once Brothers on YouTube" It is all about basketball. | Jun 02 20:21 |
| gnufreex | Hm.. it turned out that there is some stuff about the war. | Jun 02 21:33 |
| gnufreex | Not all basktetball | Jun 02 21:34 |
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| schestowitz | Which war? | Jun 02 22:01 |
| schestowitz | "War oft he day"? (TM) | Jun 02 22:02 |
| schestowitz | Soup of the day.. | Jun 02 22:02 |
| schestowitz | !google "we've always been in war" | Jun 02 22:02 |
| TechrightsBot | [1] - Dear Blizzard: Alien President of the USA with sunglasses : gaming | http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/f1s7j/dear_blizzard_alien_president_of_the_usa_with/ | Jun 02 22:02 |
| TechrightsBot | [2] - Permalink - The Washington Monthly | http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2006_01/008087.php | Jun 02 22:02 |
| TechrightsBot | [3] - La celebración después de una muerte | Lang-8 | http://lang-8.com/78985/journals/914641/La-celebraci%2525C3%2525B3n-despu%2525C3%2525A9s-de-una-muerte | Jun 02 22:02 |
| schestowitz | *At war | Jun 02 22:02 |
| schestowitz | I was just thinking.. | Jun 02 22:06 |
| schestowitz | While listening to "I'm an Indian too" | Jun 02 22:06 |
| schestowitz | Native American tribes had a good naming systemEasy to remember name | Jun 02 22:07 |
| schestowitz | By actions and objects | Jun 02 22:07 |
| schestowitz | "Falling patns" | Jun 02 22:07 |
| schestowitz | "Son of a bear" | Jun 02 22:07 |
| schestowitz | Etc. | Jun 02 22:07 |
| abeNd-org | yes, but if that were the case today, most people would be named "son of a bitch" & "daughter of asshole" | Jun 02 22:15 |
| abeNd-org | not my kind of naming convention.... | Jun 02 22:15 |
| schestowitz | well, the patents can choose the name | Jun 02 22:16 |
| schestowitz | Some idiots call their kids "google" and "facebook" | Jun 02 22:16 |
| schestowitz | Maybe they want their kids to have some googlejuice | Jun 02 22:16 |
| schestowitz | "Have you met Google [my son]?" | Jun 02 22:16 |
| abeNd-org | if i were a kid like that i would disown the parents & legally change my name | Jun 02 22:31 |
| abeNd-org | i was at a store one day, & some "mama" was calling for her child (as in screaming on the other side of the store) for "motrin" | Jun 02 22:32 |
| abeNd-org | i guess the child was such a headache to her/pain in her ass she called the child after a pain relief drug | Jun 02 22:32 |
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| schestowitz | Native Americans didn't name their kids like this | Jun 02 22:45 |
| ender_33 | lol | Jun 02 22:48 |
| ender_33 | I prefer the masonic names we're used to | Jun 02 22:48 |
| schestowitz | "If #Assange gets enough awards, it will become hard for the sociopaths and warmongers to harm him. See #Pauling #Pinter #Stallman and others" | Jun 02 23:22 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/75203967 https://identi.ca/notice/75205256 | Jun 02 23:23 |
| TechrightsBot | @silner (silner)'s status on Thursday, 02-Jun-11 21:15:42 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz If only i belived that :( | Jun 02 23:23 |
| TechrightsBot | @Roy (linuxcanuck)'s status on Thursday, 02-Jun-11 21:36:07 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Don't count on it. If they can't prosecute, they will assassinate & make it look like a suicide. Remember David Kelly. | Jun 02 23:23 |
| schestowitz | Yes, I remember | Jun 02 23:23 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/76402369587445760 | Jun 02 23:24 |
| TechrightsBot | @FOSSpatents: @schestowitz Your post on Lodsys is unfair and wrong. I mentioned Intellectual Ventures in my big Lodsys FAQ *and* the post on their lawsuit | Jun 02 23:24 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/76402451816787968 | Jun 02 23:24 |
| TechrightsBot | @FOSSpatents: @schestowitz You just refer to @jwildeboer, who apparently thinks he's so smart and omniscient he doesn't have to read my posts on Lodsys. | Jun 02 23:24 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/76402555466420224 | Jun 02 23:24 |
| TechrightsBot | @FOSSpatents: @schestowitz I can deal with this because app devs know I help them, while you just rant about the issue. But you should be more accurate. | Jun 02 23:24 |
| schestowitz | mentioned? In what context? Show me, please... | Jun 02 23:25 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/76404254931304448 | Jun 02 23:25 |
| TechrightsBot | @FOSSpatents: @jwildeboer Today's post follows up on previous posts. My Lodsys FAQ mentions Intellectual Ventures 9 (!) times / cc: @schestowitz | Jun 02 23:25 |
| schestowitz | Nothing is done to tell the developers that Intellectual Ventures is the creation of Gates, Microsoft, and Gates' mate | Jun 02 23:26 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/76404747082547200 | Jun 02 23:27 |
| TechrightsBot | @FOSSpatents: @jwildeboer Apple's letter to Lodsys mentions that license. So did I. But the question is whether the rights are exhausted. cc: @schestowitz | Jun 02 23:27 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/76404408266665984 | Jun 02 23:28 |
| TechrightsBot | @FOSSpatents: @jwildeboer items 15&16: http://fosspatents.blogspot.com/2011/05/what-app-developers-need-to-know-about.html#grantedlicenses cc @schestowitz | Jun 02 23:28 |
| TechrightsBot | -> Title: FOSS Patents: What app developers need to know about Lodsys and the in-app upgrade button patent problem .::. Size~: 98.99 KB | Jun 02 23:28 |
| schestowitz | That's why "FOSS Patents" is worse than useless. It does nothing to explain to developers what IV actually is and who is behind it. | Jun 02 23:29 |
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