EditorsAbout the SiteComes vs. MicrosoftUsing This Web SiteSite ArchivesCredibility IndexOOXMLOpenDocumentPatentsNovellNews DigestSite NewsRSS

08.17.09

How Bill Gates Denied Access to Office File Format Documentation to Stifle Competition

Posted in Antitrust, Bill Gates, Formats, Microsoft, Office Suites, Open XML, OpenDocument at 1:18 pm by Dr. Roy Schestowitz

Summary: Microsoft’s former chairman shows the company’s attitude towards accessible file formats and competition

IT is interesting enough to know that Microsoft deliberately makes its documentation deficient and unavailable (the word “undocumentation” is actually used internally), but to know who is responsible for it is even more interesting. Comes vs Microsoft Exhibit PX03104 (2000) [PDF] provides an answer which fits the pattern seen in other E-mails.

We’ve recently change the policy for distributing our file formats, at the request of BillG. We used to be fairly lax about giving it out to pretty much everyone who asked for it (Excel even published a book through MS Press).

Our new policy (for Office2000) is that there are restrictions on use (can’t build converters, can’t be a competitor to any of the apps, etc). We required a signed license agreement in hand before we’ll send them the docs. They have to tell us who they are and what their company does, as well as their intended use.

Privileged Material
Redacted

Once we get a copy of the signed agreement back, I sign for Microsoft, and we send them back a hard copy of the agreement via snail mail, and send them the docs via email

This should not be particularly surprising. See other Comes vs Microsoft exhibits that we covered in:

For the investigative, there is more in our Wiki. The full text from this latest exhibit can be found beneath. It is particularly valuable to those who study Microsoft’s reluctance to support open standards, let alone permit other office suites to inter-operate (free of charge). Based on the correspondence below, Microsoft deliberately targets possible competition and hinders access to vital data if the competition is serious. Shouldn’t the European Commission take a look?


Appendix: Comes vs. Microsoft – exhibit PX03104, as text


From: Marc Olson
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2000 7:21 AM
To: Norman Gilinsky
Cc: Joel Frauenheim
Subject: RE: Visio file format

Thanks, he sent a message to the alias and I’ve been in touch with him.

—-Original Message—-
From: Norman Gilinsky
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2000 7:01 AM
To: Marc Olson
Cc: Joel Frauenheim
Subject: RE: Visio file format

Joel Frauenheim will be handling distribution of file format

Norm

—-Original Message—-
From: Marc Olson
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2000 3:49 PM
To: Norman Gilinsky
Subject: FW: Visio file format

Hi Norm,

I don’t know how urgent this project is–is someone covering the file format distribution in Tim’s absence?

Marc

—-Original Message—-
From: Marc Olson
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2000 7:48 AM
To: Tim Davenport
Cc: Erich Andersen (LCA)
Subject: RE: Visio file format

Hi Tim,

We’ve recently change the policy for distributing our file formats, at the request of BillG. We used to be fairly lax about giving it out to pretty much everyone who asked for it (Excel even published a book through MS Press).

Our new policy (for Office2000) is that there are restrictions on use (can’t build converters, can’t be a competitor to any of the apps, etc). We required a signed license agreement in hand before we’ll send them the docs. They have to tell us who they are and what their company does, as well as their intended use.

Privileged Material
Redacted

Once we get a copy of the signed agreement back, I sign for Microsoft, and we send them back a hard copy of the agreement via snail mail, and send them the docs via email

Marc

<< File Word 2000 License.doc >>

—-Original Message—-
From: Tim Davenport
Sent: Monday, May 15, 2000 5:14 PM
To: Office File Format Request
Subject: Visio file format

Hello.

MS-PCA 2545864
HIGHLY
CONFIDENTIAL


As you may know, Visio is now a Microsoft product. We recently completed the documentation of the Video file format and we want to distribute it in the same manner as the Office docs are distributed. I know that there is a page on MSDN that tells requestors to e-mail this alias and ask for the Office documentation. Do you require that they supply you with the details of what they plan to do with it? Do you make them sign any kind of agreement? Is the documentation stamped with “Microsoft Confidential”?

Thanks for any information you can provide me.

Tim Davenport (Timda)
Program Manager
VIsio

MS-PCA 2545865
HIGHLY
CONFIDENTIAL

Share this post: These icons link to social bookmarking sites where readers can share and discover new web pages.
  • Digg
  • del.icio.us
  • Reddit
  • co.mments
  • DZone
  • email
  • Google Bookmarks
  • LinkedIn
  • NewsVine
  • Print
  • Technorati
  • TwitThis
  • Facebook

If you liked this post, consider subscribing to the RSS feed or join us now at the IRC channels.

Pages that cross-reference this one

2 Comments

  1. Jose_X said,

    August 17, 2009 at 3:12 pm

    Gravatar

    The “docs’ are garbage whether people sign or not.

    Another Comes quote from the late 1990s I think was about how wine would be much more evolved if wine devs had access to source code and info not discernable from the docs (eg, “bugs”/misimplementations/extensions/etc in MS products).

    Samba had clearly been dealing with headaches and lack of docs by this time.

    These papers being signed might involve patent acknowledgments [?]

    Roy Schestowitz Reply:

    Nowhere does it say what happens if a solid competitor requests those documents.

What Else is New


  1. Links 20/5/2013: First Salifish Smartphone, Mageia 3 Released

    Links for the day



  2. Microsoft Corruption (Illegal Tenders) Stopped by European Court

    Microsoft cannot bypass public tenders, based on a ruling from a court of law in Europe



  3. Not Satire: Microsoft Wants to Show the World How Security is Done

    Software security 'standard' to be led by the company which made insecurity an acceptable engineering practice?



  4. Microsoft is Struggling to Maintain Industry 'Standards'

    With Microsoft's common carrier and browser share down considerably Microsoft finds itself increasingly irrelevant and it tries subversive means of making another comeback



  5. Microsoft Entryism and Bribery Get the Microsoft Way Implemented

    A recollection of very dirty tactics from Microsoft, which uses money to oppress, overthrow, and even hijack its opposition



  6. Patent Policy Laundering in the European Union and New Zealand

    How the so-called 'free' trade agreements help spread patent policy which favours software patents



  7. Ongoing Focus on Patent Litigation and Patent Trolls Reduces Focus on Software Patents

    The problem with increased focus on the players that use software patents litigiously and the litigation itself



  8. Andrew Y. Schroeder Shows That Patent Lawyers Are Sociopaths

    Bully and law misuser is trying to get his way with foul language, intimidation, and sheer lack of professionalism



  9. IBM-backed Book on 'Open Innovation'

    OpenForum Europe (OFE), which helps IBM's turf wars in Europe, releases a new book filled with its talking point



  10. Joseph E. Stiglitz Criticises the Patent System

    More critical words about the patent system and the way it is harming lives



  11. Senator Schumer Should Focus on Software Patents, Leaving Patent Trolls (Side Effect) Aside

    Reform in the USPTO and the US courts should focus on patent scope and not patent holders



  12. Links 20/5/2013: Plenty of Linux News, Google/Android Announcements

    Links for the day



  13. IRC Proceedings: May 12th, 2013-May 18th, 2013

    IRC logs for May 12th, 2013 (and subsequent days until May 18th, 2013)



  14. Microsoft Spin Regarding Skype Spying Does Not Withstand Scrutiny

    Microsoft's response to allegations that Skype is spying on all users is full of holes



  15. MPEG-LA Ruined the Licence of WebM, Made it Less Freedom-Respecting

    The Microsoft-, Nokia-, and Apple-backed patent troll appears to have ruined the freedom assured by Google's multimedia format, which was previously made free only after public pressure



  16. Microsoft-controlled Nokia is Lobbying to Enable Bans on Android Imports (Linux Phones as a Whole in Danger)

    Nokia is shown lobbying for embargoes while it is also suing -- with limited success -- Android handsets makers



  17. Courtroom and New Book Recognise That Software Patents Correspond to Mathematics and Mathematics Abused in Court

    Important observations about the nature of computer-implemented 'inventions', or software patents



  18. The Reality Distortion Field of Patent Lawyers Helps Impede Abolition of Software Patents

    How widespread coverage and talking points from the tiny minority which is patent lawyers have contributed to biased and at times utterly distorted reporting on the subject of software patents around the world



  19. Eugene Kaspersky Says Patents Harm Innovation

    Some more criticism of the patent system and software patents in particular, courtesy of Eugene Kaspersky



  20. UEFI Restricted Boot Good for Microsoft Agenda, Not for Security

    News and analysis of UEFI 'secure boot' (lockdown), including the new role played by the Microsoft-funded SUSE



  21. Anniversaries

    Sites that deal with patents and with FUD as well as their respective ages



  22. EFF, Newegg, and the Canadian Patent System All Take a Stance Against Software Patents

    Hostility towards the practice of patenting software is seen in a nonprofit organisation, a corporation, and a government branch responsible for patenting



  23. Microsoft's Fake 'Open Source' Front is "Pushing Software Patents" (Updated)

    Microsoft's front group which pretends to support Free/Open Source software (FOSS) is using a guest post to entertain the idea of software patents inside Free/Open Source software



  24. Links 17/5/2013: 0.9 Billion Android Activations, New Devices, Android Studio

    Links for the day



  25. Links 16/5/2013: Firefox 21 Out, Android 4.3 Foreseen

    Links for the day



  26. More Android FUD From Former Microsoft Staff in CBS

    New examples of anti-Android sentiments being spread by the Apple- and Microsoft-funded media conglomerate, CBS, which pays current and former Microsoft staff to act as "journalists"



  27. Where Fear of FOSS Comes From

    More Microsoft ties to some of the latest FUD about Free/Open Source software (FOSS)



  28. Microsoft Skype Messaging Surveillance Not the Main Issue, Audio Recording (Bugging) and Computer Hijacking Are

    Debates about the dangers of Skype focus on one of the least dangerous aspects of Skype



  29. Links 15/5/2013: Android 4.3, Antergos Debuts

    Links for the day



  30. Man From Microsoft Runs the Ubuntu Project Now

    How the leadership of Ubuntu has changed and how it may relate to some strategic decisions inside the project


RSS 64x64RSS Feed: subscribe to the RSS feed for regular updates

Home iconSite Wiki: You can improve this site by helping the extension of the site's content

Chat iconIRC Channel: Come and chat with us in real time

Recent Posts