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schestowitz | Reading some papers today... MichaelB's work on 3-D.. | Jun 20 00:38 |
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schestowitz | I began reading these 2 papers for the second time. I had already read about the subject last year (specifically embedding), but the pair of papers are more concise than some of those which I found on Michael's homepage. | Jun 20 00:38 |
schestowitz | Still unsure how much time to spend in academia | Jun 20 00:38 |
schestowitz | There's not much that's exciting about it | Jun 20 00:39 |
schestowitz | I can publish more and reach more people on the Net | Jun 20 00:39 |
MinceR | http://www.sumware.com/creation.html | Jun 20 07:10 |
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schestowitz | quite an efficient day so far. Did all the housework, food shopping, rode bike to Old Trafford, did 4 patent post drafts, lunch with mate, gym... | Jun 20 14:08 |
schestowitz | Now I'll pass all the posts from the PDA to the PC... | Jun 20 14:09 |
schestowitz | Far better than smartphones... | Jun 20 14:09 |
MinceR | except none of my smartphones bricked itself :> | Jun 20 14:09 |
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schestowitz | MinceR: the PDA did? | Jun 20 14:32 |
schestowitz | ou have a Visor? | Jun 20 14:32 |
MinceR | i have a Palm Tungsten E2 | Jun 20 14:32 |
schestowitz | had? | Jun 20 14:33 |
schestowitz | Mien goes strong since 2004... 7 years now!! Some things are broken, but not core functionality | Jun 20 14:34 |
MinceR | i still have it, but it's useless now | Jun 20 14:38 |
MinceR | it bricked itself after 13 months (1 month after the warranty expired) | Jun 20 14:38 |
schestowitz | did you open it? Nothing to lose.. | Jun 20 14:49 |
schestowitz | It's probably an antique by now anyway | Jun 20 14:49 |
schestowitz | People who see my PDA think it;'s a novety because of the keyboard (which I tell them I've had since 2003) | Jun 20 14:50 |
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MinceR | and what would i do in it? flip the "suck/do not suck" switch back? | Jun 20 14:58 |
schestowitz | depending on the error | Jun 20 15:09 |
schestowitz | I sometimes open my gadgets | Jun 20 15:09 |
schestowitz | I fixed my laotop'\s screen's ones by buying replacement parts and screw drivers, wires, etc. | Jun 20 15:10 |
MinceR | i took my laptop to warranty service | Jun 20 15:11 |
MinceR | they fixed 3 out of 4 errors | Jun 20 15:11 |
MinceR | i hacked the fourth myself | Jun 20 15:11 |
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ender_33 | what errors mincer? | Jun 20 16:32 |
MinceR | the GPU fried itself twice, the hinge and the display part came apart and a key came off the keyboard | Jun 20 16:33 |
MinceR | (and wouldn't stay on when i put it back) | Jun 20 16:33 |
ender_33 | sounds like my Dell | Jun 20 16:34 |
ender_33 | the GPU did fry itself, noVideo | Jun 20 16:34 |
MinceR | it's a dell | Jun 20 16:34 |
MinceR | and yes, nVidia | Jun 20 16:34 |
ender_33 | yeah, I blame the gpu and I think nouveau amplified the problem with the lack of power management | Jun 20 16:34 |
MinceR | might very well be nVidia's fault, though it was not among the chips listed as faulty | Jun 20 16:34 |
MinceR | then again, the distributor's response could have been better than "we have no idea when the replacement's going to arrive" | Jun 20 16:35 |
ender_33 | mine was not in the list either, but Dell replaced it a year out of warranty | Jun 20 16:35 |
MinceR | not to mention replacing it with one that fried itself in a few weeks so i had to take it back again | Jun 20 16:35 |
ender_33 | I suspect it was on a not so public list | Jun 20 16:35 |
MinceR | could be | Jun 20 16:35 |
ender_33 | they shipped me a box and I mailed it to them | Jun 20 16:36 |
ender_33 | no cost for me | Jun 20 16:36 |
ender_33 | it would've sucked if I had to deal with a shop | Jun 20 16:37 |
ender_33 | I used to work for one, they're all scams | Jun 20 16:37 |
ender_33 | mincer, was yours a Linux model? | Jun 20 16:38 |
ender_33 | When I was shopping I almost got the Dell XPS Code Red with all the fanciness and stuff - I asked them if I could get it without windows | Jun 20 16:38 |
ender_33 | the answer was no, but the next thing to happen was fun | Jun 20 16:39 |
MinceR | an nSeries model | Jun 20 16:39 |
MinceR | (shipped with no OS installed and with a FreeDOS disc in the box) | Jun 20 16:39 |
ender_33 | they didnt approve my loan, they only offered me so much credit | Jun 20 16:39 |
ender_33 | I got the same one, but the ubuntu model without all the gimmicks | Jun 20 16:39 |
ender_33 | same hardware | Jun 20 16:39 |
ender_33 | no flashy red case (code red turned out to be a scam too) | Jun 20 16:40 |
MinceR | :> | Jun 20 16:40 |
MinceR | i suppose that also means no annoying leds strewn around the case for bling | Jun 20 16:40 |
ender_33 | it was also a hell of a lot cheaper | Jun 20 16:40 |
ender_33 | code red+windows added on like $500 | Jun 20 16:40 |
ender_33 | the guy on the phone was so upset | Jun 20 16:41 |
ender_33 | he was trying to get me to pick another one with windows with shittier hardware | Jun 20 16:41 |
MinceR | :> | Jun 20 16:41 |
ender_33 | mine is the xps m1330 | Jun 20 16:41 |
ender_33 | http://youtu.be/xg0rcl2IXYU | Jun 20 16:43 |
TechrightsBot-sc | Title: YouTube - My Dell XPS m1330 Laptop w/ Fedora 13 .::. Size~: 100.02 KB | Jun 20 16:43 |
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MinceR | mine is an Inspiron 9400 | Jun 20 16:44 |
MinceR | i'm planning to replace my home server with it | Jun 20 16:44 |
MinceR | if it stays in one place, the case has little chance of coming apart :> | Jun 20 16:44 |
MinceR | and the keyboard won't see much use | Jun 20 16:44 |
MinceR | on the other hand, i can take advantage of VT-x in a home server | Jun 20 16:45 |
ender_33 | :) | Jun 20 16:45 |
ender_33 | my girlfriend is using my m1330 | Jun 20 16:45 |
ender_33 | I use a netbook when I travel | Jun 20 16:45 |
ender_33 | or my two desktops at home | Jun 20 16:46 |
ender_33 | one is really a server | Jun 20 16:46 |
ender_33 | hp mini 110 is my netbook | Jun 20 16:46 |
MinceR | mine is an Eee PC 1005HA | Jun 20 16:46 |
MinceR | i'm hoping to replace it with a ThinkPad X220 Tablet soon | Jun 20 16:47 |
ender_33 | those are badass | Jun 20 16:47 |
ender_33 | "Thinkpad! TRANSFORM!" | Jun 20 16:47 |
MinceR | i don't like all the changes since the X201, but it's nice to have both VGA and DisplayPort | Jun 20 16:48 |
ender_33 | what about the i7 | Jun 20 16:48 |
MinceR | it's acceptable | Jun 20 16:48 |
ender_33 | I'd like one of those in the desktop | Jun 20 16:49 |
ender_33 | my q6600 is out of date now | Jun 20 16:49 |
MinceR | (not that i wouldn't appreciate an AMD option...) | Jun 20 16:49 |
ender_33 | a 6 core amd would be awesome | Jun 20 16:50 |
ender_33 | but any i7 with HT will be seen as 8 logical processors not 6 | Jun 20 16:50 |
MinceR | in a laptop or a desktop or a server? | Jun 20 16:50 |
ender_33 | desktop | Jun 20 16:51 |
ender_33 | and server | Jun 20 16:51 |
ender_33 | my server just slaves over a ZFS filesystem though | Jun 20 16:52 |
MinceR | so it's a file server? | Jun 20 16:52 |
schestowitz | [15:11] <MinceR> i took my laptop to warranty service | Jun 20 16:52 |
schestowitz | I did too while I still had warranty | Jun 20 16:52 |
schestowitz | They wanted $500 to fix (replace the screen), I fixed it myself instead and it lasted since then... still working here in my living room more than 10 years later | Jun 20 16:53 |
ender_33 | schestowitz - you realise the first time he showed his face in the channel he was spreading KDE4-Microsoft disinfo | Jun 20 16:57 |
ender_33 | (magic school bus) | Jun 20 16:57 |
schestowitz | That'd bve ryan | Jun 20 16:58 |
schestowitz | ext4 FUD and later KDE4 FUD | Jun 20 16:58 |
schestowitz | Since day 1 | Jun 20 16:58 |
schestowitz | MinceR is one of these channels' veterans | Jun 20 16:58 |
schestowitz | I think he has been in them since 2008 | Jun 20 16:58 |
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ender_33 | im talking about the other collusion theorist | Jun 20 16:59 |
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ender_33 | his speaker beeps if I say his name | Jun 20 17:01 |
ender_33 | http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/irc-log-techrights-09052011.html | Jun 20 17:01 |
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ender_33 | "I think I've discovered something big -- Microsoft sabotaging Linux via KDE4." | Jun 20 17:01 |
MinceR | hilight is a common feature in IRC clients :> | Jun 20 17:01 |
ender_33 | "The fundamental design philosophy of KDE4 was determined by focus groups populated by people off the street -- basically naive ms-windows users." | Jun 20 17:04 |
ender_33 | You think that would be a good thing - people off the street to test usability | Jun 20 17:04 |
ender_33 | but no, MS CONSPIRACY | Jun 20 17:04 |
ender_33 | his source: someone he knows who cannot be named or sourced | Jun 20 17:05 |
ender_33 | the first time I noticed him speak he was pushing drugs | Jun 20 17:05 |
ender_33 | entrapment I bet | Jun 20 17:05 |
ender_33 | http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/irc-log-techrights-10052011.html | Jun 20 17:07 |
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MinceR | i prefer design philosophies determined by software engineers :> | Jun 20 17:08 |
ender_33 | what is your design goal? | Jun 20 17:08 |
ender_33 | are you making software for users or software for developers | Jun 20 17:08 |
MinceR | developers are users too :> | Jun 20 17:11 |
MinceR | i'm both | Jun 20 17:12 |
MinceR | i like to use a GUI that was designed for me :> | Jun 20 17:12 |
MinceR | (note that targeting particular kinds of users is not mutually exclusive) | Jun 20 17:12 |
ender_33 | I wonder how they did come up with that terrible start menu | Jun 20 17:15 |
ender_33 | I always use classic | Jun 20 17:15 |
schestowitz | [17:01] <ender_33> "I think I've discovered something big -- Microsoft sabotaging Linux via KDE4." | Jun 20 17:17 |
schestowitz | yes, weird claim, I remember it | Jun 20 17:17 |
schestowitz | Truly a WTH moment | Jun 20 17:18 |
ender_33 | yes | Jun 20 17:18 |
ender_33 | on the 10th he was pushing cannabis | Jun 20 17:18 |
schestowitz | I'm not in favour of pushing it | Jun 20 17:19 |
schestowitz | Or anything | Jun 20 17:19 |
schestowitz | But I'm not in favour of pushing into the gutter people who set in on fire | Jun 20 17:19 |
schestowitz | *it | Jun 20 17:19 |
schestowitz | The cops have more important jobs to do with the money I pay them via City Cuncil | Jun 20 17:19 |
schestowitz | *co | Jun 20 17:19 |
ender_33 | I agree | Jun 20 17:20 |
ender_33 | its a waste of time to enforce it | Jun 20 17:20 |
ender_33 | the CIA is a known drug pusher, its counter productive for the departments to fight each other | Jun 20 17:21 |
schestowitz | https://twitter.com/sjvn/status/82844030219730944 | Jun 20 17:22 |
TechrightsBot-sc | @sjvn: @schestowitz FWIW, I liked the headline. Both Windows & Linux desktops are going down. Sigh. | Jun 20 17:22 |
schestowitz | I don't interpret the word Endgame as being negative, depends on whose side is assumed to be taken. | Jun 20 17:22 |
schestowitz | ender_33: I heard also that the secret agencies sometimes provide items and instructions to provoke the public sometimes, in order to make themselves more necessary | Jun 20 17:23 |
schestowitz | Drug wars are good for that too. It makes people distrust one another and allow people to go through their drawers, to prove there's no vegetation or whatever in them | Jun 20 17:24 |
ender_33 | lol | Jun 20 17:26 |
ender_33 | I heard that limo's would pull up to uni campuses and toss over bags full of LSD | Jun 20 17:26 |
ender_33 | then drive off | Jun 20 17:26 |
schestowitz | maybe experiment | Jun 20 17:33 |
schestowitz | With risk passed to others without anyone to be held accountable :-) | Jun 20 17:34 |
schestowitz | http://i.imgur.com/l04X9.jpg | Jun 20 17:47 |
TechrightsBot-sc | Not a web page! Aborting image/jpeg type | Jun 20 17:47 |
schestowitz | http://i.imgur.com/TBcEF.jpg | Jun 20 17:48 |
TechrightsBot-sc | Not a web page! Aborting image/jpeg type | Jun 20 17:48 |
schestowitz | https://twitter.com/sjvn/status/82847744770842624 | Jun 20 17:52 |
TechrightsBot-sc | @sjvn: @schestowitz Most people do though. For me, it depends entirely on the position, but then I'm a life-long tournament chess player! :-) | Jun 20 17:52 |
schestowitz | Nice... | Jun 20 17:52 |
sebsebseb | schestowitz: I am downloading 3.7GB ,but taking a very long time, slow mirror | Jun 20 17:57 |
schestowitz | just had mysql fail | Jun 20 18:26 |
schestowitz | just 8 queries per second on this machine | Jun 20 18:26 |
schestowitz | Back in 2009 my site was getting about 200 per second on average.. crazy times | Jun 20 18:26 |
schestowitz | Hm... The book that I found has rough edges and it is old on the scale of research in pattern recognition. I will look for more recent papers on GPCA unless there's a recommendation. | Jun 20 18:37 |
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ender_33 | roy - riddle me this | Jun 20 20:35 |
ender_33 | schestowitz | Jun 20 20:36 |
ender_33 | why didn't anyone bash techrights based on my cospiracy talk in COLA | Jun 20 20:36 |
ender_33 | it only started after the other person came and started talking about 9/11 | Jun 20 20:37 |
qu1j0t3 | ender_33: it sounds like there's some kind of conspiracy behind this | Jun 20 20:48 |
schestowitz | This could get recursive | Jun 20 20:53 |
ender_33 | I | Jun 20 20:53 |
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ender_33 | ''m still notmentioned | Jun 20 20:53 |
schestowitz | c for "conpiracy" | Jun 20 20:53 |
ender_33 | damn kb | Jun 20 20:53 |
ender_33 | you would think that neanderthallers would be prime cause for ridicule | Jun 20 20:54 |
ender_33 | well thistleweb mentioned the posiblity earlier | Jun 20 20:55 |
ender_33 | ill be back | Jun 20 20:55 |
ender_33 | gotta reboot vm, too laggy | Jun 20 20:55 |
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schestowitz | the trolls use iRC logs to advertise this channel http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/browse_thread/thread/30ed92ffd60e391f/9b95a62567f7482f | Jun 20 21:08 |
TechrightsBot-sc | Title: So Much For Rolling Your Own...... - comp.os.linux.advocacy | Google Groups .::. Size~: 80.13 KB | Jun 20 21:08 |
schestowitz | Oh, "no".... please "don't" | Jun 20 21:08 |
schestowitz | There trolls link to us... to "harm" us | Jun 20 21:08 |
*schestowitz raises two fingers in each hand | Jun 20 21:09 | |
MinceR | at the same time, you link to him :> | Jun 20 21:12 |
schestowitz | More advertising today... http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/browse_frm/thread/6c3b79e2d9d3b18d# | Jun 20 21:12 |
TechrightsBot-sc | Title: comp.os.linux.advocacy | Google Groups .::. Size~: 42.06 KB | Jun 20 21:12 |
schestowitz | MinceR: to encourage the trolls | Jun 20 21:12 |
schestowitz | They only help us, they can't help it | Jun 20 21:12 |
schestowitz | I think they realise (some of them do and they say it out loud) that linking or mentioning is just promotion | Jun 20 21:13 |
schestowitz | qu1j0t3 calls the HuffPo Fox's noise machine | Jun 20 21:13 |
schestowitz | They amplify the pro-Oil agenda of Fox rather than removing attention from it | Jun 20 21:13 |
qu1j0t3 | :) | Jun 20 21:14 |
schestowitz | see, the trolls adveritse. Another new one: http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/browse_frm/thread/0d7bf11a24a9ccc6# | Jun 20 21:16 |
TechrightsBot-sc | Title: comp.os.linux.advocacy | Google Groups .::. Size~: 42.06 KB | Jun 20 21:16 |
schestowitz | Maybe this troll is dumb enough to be used against Microsoft | Jun 20 21:16 |
schestowitz | It's like those tricks where the kid says "no", you say "yes", kid says "no", you say "yes, kid says "no", you say "no", kid says "YES" | Jun 20 21:17 |
schestowitz | Anyway, Huff and Puff qorks because I took interest in watching Fox just to analyse how they lie and misinterpret | Jun 20 21:18 |
schestowitz | And I found some youtube channels that deconstruct Fox lies | Jun 20 21:18 |
schestowitz | Which does, in a sense, gives Fox higher ratings | Jun 20 21:19 |
schestowitz | Here's a good channel http://www.youtube.com/user/C0ct0pusPrime | Jun 20 21:19 |
schestowitz | His language is NSFW though | Jun 20 21:19 |
TechrightsBot-sc | Error processing the URL | Jun 20 21:20 |
qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: right, the risk is that you lend credibility or credence to them. | Jun 20 21:20 |
qu1j0t3 | by discussing them. | Jun 20 21:20 |
schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bi3gZQ1fwDQ | Jun 20 21:20 |
TechrightsBot-sc | Title: YouTube - Fox News: Atheist Turned Believer After His Mom Wins $1 Million .::. Size~: 114.97 KB | Jun 20 21:20 |
schestowitz | They once again use fake "atheists" | Jun 20 21:20 |
qu1j0t3 | it can imply, to some people, that Fox is a valid 'news' outlet | Jun 20 21:20 |
schestowitz | They do it all the time | Jun 20 21:20 |
qu1j0t3 | same as NYT. | Jun 20 21:20 |
qu1j0t3 | people call it a newspaper. | Jun 20 21:20 |
schestowitz | They show their faithhead viewers fake atheists | Jun 20 21:20 |
qu1j0t3 | like the new "Page One" propaganda piece that's coming to theatres | Jun 20 21:21 |
qu1j0t3 | Hollywood doing reputation laundry for NYT. | Jun 20 21:21 |
schestowitz | Who turns out to actually be "real believers" or "on the fence" or /darn DUMB | Jun 20 21:21 |
qu1j0t3 | NYT = war machine = WaPo | Jun 20 21:21 |
schestowitz | [21:20] <qu1j0t3> by discussing them. | Jun 20 21:21 |
schestowitz | That's one of the problem Groklaw and I have when rebutting Microsoft FlorianM | Jun 20 21:21 |
schestowitz | But he does need to be countered | Jun 20 21:21 |
qu1j0t3 | yes, good example. | Jun 20 21:22 |
schestowitz | At least the FOSS world knows he's a fraud | Jun 20 21:22 |
qu1j0t3 | Mueller is an excellent example of this | Jun 20 21:22 |
schestowitz | [21:21] <qu1j0t3> Hollywood doing reputation laundry for NYT. | Jun 20 21:22 |
schestowitz | I never though about it | Jun 20 21:22 |
schestowitz | "Journal of record" | Jun 20 21:22 |
schestowitz | LOL | Jun 20 21:22 |
qu1j0t3 | same as de Icaza, who keeps his F/OSS hats so that he can lie from under them | Jun 20 21:22 |
schestowitz | Even 2003 articles about Iraq WoMD? | Jun 20 21:22 |
qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: the NYT never changed. | Jun 20 21:22 |
schestowitz | Pentagon papers? | Jun 20 21:23 |
schestowitz | I heard a theory.. | Jun 20 21:23 |
schestowitz | About why it published them | Jun 20 21:23 |
schestowitz | it was too strange though | Jun 20 21:23 |
qu1j0t3 | i probably heard it too :) | Jun 20 21:23 |
schestowitz | They have some good writrs though | Jun 20 21:24 |
qu1j0t3 | yes, like HuffPo, they syndicate some outliers. | Jun 20 21:24 |
qu1j0t3 | it helps | Jun 20 21:24 |
schestowitz | Like.. what's his name... something like Kruschef.. | Jun 20 21:24 |
qu1j0t3 | see? | Jun 20 21:24 |
schestowitz | Not the Russian.. | Jun 20 21:24 |
qu1j0t3 | Kristof. but.. he's not always good. | Jun 20 21:24 |
schestowitz | He's their activist one.. | Jun 20 21:24 |
qu1j0t3 | -sometimes- he's good. | Jun 20 21:24 |
qu1j0t3 | sometimes he's terrible. | Jun 20 21:24 |
schestowitz | !google bing censorship new york times china | Jun 20 21:24 |
qu1j0t3 | heh, no | Jun 20 21:24 |
TechrightsBot-sc | [1] - Boycott Microsoft Bing - NYTimes.com | http://kristof.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/11/20/boycott-microsoft-bing/ | Jun 20 21:24 |
TechrightsBot-sc | [2] - Microsoft and Chinese Censorship - NYTimes.com | http://kristof.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/06/24/microsoft-and-chinese-censorship/ | Jun 20 21:24 |
TechrightsBot-sc | [3] - Claims That Bing Censored Chinese Results, Google, Yahoo and Bing ... | http://www.hpseo.co.uk/article/claims-that-bing-censored-chinese-results/4561709 | Jun 20 21:24 |
TechrightsBot-sc | [4] - Microsoft responds to call for Bing boycott over China censorship | http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2009/11/will-you-boycott-bing.ars | Jun 20 21:24 |
qu1j0t3 | he's not activist, schestowitz | Jun 20 21:24 |
schestowitz | oh | Jun 20 21:24 |
qu1j0t3 | the activist at NYT is Krugman | Jun 20 21:24 |
schestowitz | Kristof | Jun 20 21:24 |
schestowitz | That's the one | Jun 20 21:24 |
qu1j0t3 | Kristof is centrist, imho | Jun 20 21:25 |
schestowitz | He also commented on the wikileaks story decently | Jun 20 21:25 |
qu1j0t3 | in any case, ppl like him are kept around to deflect criticism | Jun 20 21:25 |
qu1j0t3 | HuffPo does the same thing. | Jun 20 21:25 |
qu1j0t3 | i don't trust Kristof. | Jun 20 21:25 |
schestowitz | Oh, I see... | Jun 20 21:25 |
schestowitz | They need that | Jun 20 21:25 |
schestowitz | Fox has one too | Jun 20 21:25 |
schestowitz | Napolitano IIRC | Jun 20 21:25 |
qu1j0t3 | Shep Smith | Jun 20 21:25 |
schestowitz | !google fox Napolitano | Jun 20 21:26 |
TechrightsBot-sc | [1] - Andrew P. Napolitano - Biography - FoxNews.com - Fox News | http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/personalities/andrew-p-napolitano/bio/ | Jun 20 21:26 |
TechrightsBot-sc | [2] - Freedom Watch With The Judge » "Stay Free" – Judge Napolitano | http://freedomwatchonfox.com/ | Jun 20 21:26 |
TechrightsBot-sc | [3] - Andrew Napolitano - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Napolitano | Jun 20 21:26 |
TechrightsBot-sc | [4] - YouTube - RON PAULITICS: Fox News Judge Napolitano Endorses Ron Paul | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3D6IgTFHsUjoY | Jun 20 21:26 |
qu1j0t3 | yes, fox does it too | Jun 20 21:26 |
schestowitz | "Fair and balanced" | Jun 20 21:26 |
qu1j0t3 | it makes it 'look' like a real news outlet. | Jun 20 21:26 |
qu1j0t3 | 'diversity of views' | Jun 20 21:26 |
qu1j0t3 | LOL | Jun 20 21:26 |
schestowitz | "Stop accusing us of being one-sided" | Jun 20 21:26 |
qu1j0t3 | it's so amazingly obvious | Jun 20 21:26 |
schestowitz | !google Napolitano lies about healthcare jail | Jun 20 21:26 |
TechrightsBot-sc | [1] - YouTube - Judge Napolitano Lies about Health Care Reform | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DVqdlBZkl8qM | Jun 20 21:26 |
TechrightsBot-sc | [2] - O'Reilly Caught In A Massive Lie About Jail Time | http://www.oreilly-sucks.com/jailtimelie.htm | Jun 20 21:26 |
TechrightsBot-sc | [3] - Introduction to Lies The Government Told You by Andrew P. Napolitano | http://www.lewrockwell.com/napolitano/napolitano19.1.html | Jun 20 21:26 |
TechrightsBot-sc | [4] - Healthcare - Best of the Left Podcast | http://www.bestoftheleftpodcast.com/category/healthcare/ | Jun 20 21:26 |
schestowitz | Is he really a judge by the way? | Jun 20 21:26 |
qu1j0t3 | it DOESN'T MATTER what fringe people you syndicate when you are doing Job #1 which is to validate the pro-war, or Gates Foundation, position. | Jun 20 21:26 |
qu1j0t3 | the job is DONE. | Jun 20 21:26 |
qu1j0t3 | you can scatter a few crumbs to centrists | Jun 20 21:26 |
qu1j0t3 | it doesn't matter | Jun 20 21:27 |
qu1j0t3 | Gates takes the headlines. | Jun 20 21:27 |
qu1j0t3 | Friedman writes the books. | Jun 20 21:27 |
schestowitz | He's speaking like he's semi-demented teleprompter reader | Jun 20 21:27 |
qu1j0t3 | who cares if Kristof is somewhere in the paper? | Jun 20 21:27 |
qu1j0t3 | conservatives wouldn't even read Kristof or Krugman | Jun 20 21:27 |
schestowitz | He does | Jun 20 21:27 |
schestowitz | Or his corner.. | Jun 20 21:27 |
schestowitz | NYT caters to all | Jun 20 21:27 |
schestowitz | Just skip the centrefold | Jun 20 21:28 |
schestowitz | And the back | Jun 20 21:28 |
schestowitz | football, sex.. | Jun 20 21:28 |
qu1j0t3 | in Toronto we have a conservative journalist supposedly criticising NATO | Jun 20 21:28 |
qu1j0t3 | she's in Libya right now | Jun 20 21:28 |
schestowitz | And the front (fear, tease headline) | Jun 20 21:28 |
qu1j0t3 | but her columns are pushing the centrist, consensus, pro-intervention line, constantly | Jun 20 21:28 |
qu1j0t3 | like: "it's complicated. therefore we must bomb" | Jun 20 21:28 |
schestowitz | !google canada libya attach approval | Jun 20 21:28 |
TechrightsBot-sc | [1] - Combat helicopters enter Libya fray | http://www.globalnews.ca/world/Combat%2Bhelicopters%2Benter%2BLibya%2Bfray/4893057/story.html | Jun 20 21:28 |
TechrightsBot-sc | [2] - Take Up CPC(ML)'s Work for Political Renewal on a New Historical Basis | http://www.cpcml.ca/Tmld2011/D41051.htm | Jun 20 21:28 |
TechrightsBot-sc | [3] - Harper to put Libya mission extension before Parliament for approval | http://shabablibya.org/news/harper-to-put-libya-mission-extension-before-parliament-for-approval | Jun 20 21:28 |
TechrightsBot-sc | [4] - Canadian sailors 'calm' during Libyan attack - Canada - CBC News | http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2011/05/13/hmcs-charlottetown-skjerpen.html | Jun 20 21:28 |
schestowitz | I see a lot of the "War criminal" theme now | Jun 20 21:29 |
schestowitz | !google harmer war crimes | Jun 20 21:29 |
TechrightsBot-sc | [1] - FREE WILL: David Harmer For Congress | http://freewillsf.blogspot.com/2010/08/doug-harmer-for-congress.html | Jun 20 21:29 |
TechrightsBot-sc | [2] - Humanitarian Action and the 'Global War on Terror': A Review of ... | http://www.securitymanagementinitiative.org/index.php%3Foption%3Dcom_docman%26task%3Ddoc_download%26gid%3D338%26Itemid%3D%26lang%3Den | Jun 20 21:29 |
TechrightsBot-sc | [3] - Harmer | Search Results | UNCOVERAGE.net | http://www.uncoverage.net/%3Fs%3DHarmer | Jun 20 21:29 |
TechrightsBot-sc | [4] - Bannock County Adds Prosecutors | http://www.co.bannock.id.us/prosecutor/articles/press_release_3.html | Jun 20 21:29 |
schestowitz | !google harper war crimes | Jun 20 21:29 |
TechrightsBot-sc | [1] - War crimes investigation proceeding against Canadian Prime ... | http://presscore.ca/2011/%3Fp%3D1167 | Jun 20 21:29 |
TechrightsBot-sc | [2] - Prime Minister Stephen Harper and Canadian War Crimes in Afghanistan | http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php%3Fcontext%3Dva%26aid%3D24473 | Jun 20 21:29 |
TechrightsBot-sc | [3] - Obama, Sarkozy, Cameron and Harper declared war criminals. | http://remnantbrideofjesus.blogspot.com/2011/06/obama-sarkozy-cameron-and-harper.html | Jun 20 21:29 |
TechrightsBot-sc | [4] - harper war crimes heads | Flickr - Photo Sharing! | http://www.flickr.com/photos/tiganatoo/4420883921/ | Jun 20 21:29 |
schestowitz | !google michael moore pays critic site | Jun 20 21:31 |
TechrightsBot-sc | [1] - Michael Moore Pays Medical Bills of Conservative Critic's Wife | http://www.shortnews.com/start.cfm%3Fid%3D62549 | Jun 20 21:31 |
TechrightsBot-sc | [2] - Michael Moore : EXPOSED! | http://www.mooreexposed.com/ | Jun 20 21:31 |
TechrightsBot-sc | [3] - Sicko - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sicko | Jun 20 21:31 |
TechrightsBot-sc | [4] - Daily Kos: Michael Moore anonymously pays the medical premiums of ... | http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/05/18/336249/-Michael-Moore-anonymously-pays-the-medical-premiums-of-his-biggest-critic | Jun 20 21:31 |
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schestowitz | IMHO, as he then bragged about it he gave this impression that he is open to criticism | Jun 20 21:32 |
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schestowitz | But he also helps an amplifier critic | Jun 20 21:32 |
schestowitz | They just don't know how to do it right | Jun 20 21:32 |
schestowitz | Like the Apple troll who created a whole site dedicated to attacking our site | Jun 20 21:32 |
schestowitz | He was a marketing guy... a poor one at that if his intention was to hurt the 'competition' | Jun 20 21:33 |
schestowitz | Microsoft usually tries to just ignore the competition, openofifce.org for example | Jun 20 21:33 |
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