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schestowitzReading some papers today... MichaelB's work on 3-D..Jun 20 00:38
schestowitzI began reading these 2 papers for the second time. I had already read about the subject last year (specifically embedding), but the pair of papers are more concise than some of those which I found on Michael's homepage.Jun 20 00:38
schestowitzStill unsure how much time to spend in academiaJun 20 00:38
schestowitzThere's not much that's exciting about itJun 20 00:39
schestowitzI can publish more and reach more people on the NetJun 20 00:39
MinceRhttp://www.sumware.com/creation.htmlJun 20 07:10
TechrightsBot-scTitle: "How it Happened" by Isaac Asimov .::. Size~: 3.22 KBJun 20 07:10
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schestowitzquite an efficient day so far. Did all the housework, food shopping, rode bike to Old Trafford, did 4 patent post drafts, lunch with mate, gym...Jun 20 14:08
schestowitzNow I'll pass all the posts from the PDA to the PC...Jun 20 14:09
schestowitzFar better than smartphones...Jun 20 14:09
MinceRexcept none of my smartphones bricked itself :>Jun 20 14:09
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schestowitzMinceR: the PDA did?Jun 20 14:32
schestowitzou have a Visor?Jun 20 14:32
MinceRi have a Palm Tungsten E2Jun 20 14:32
schestowitzhad?Jun 20 14:33
schestowitzMien goes strong since 2004... 7 years now!! Some things are broken, but not core functionalityJun 20 14:34
MinceRi still have it, but it's useless nowJun 20 14:38
MinceRit bricked itself after 13 months (1 month after the warranty expired)Jun 20 14:38
schestowitzdid you open it? Nothing to lose..Jun 20 14:49
schestowitzIt's probably an antique by now anywayJun 20 14:49
schestowitzPeople who see my PDA think it;'s a novety because of the keyboard (which I tell them I've had since 2003)Jun 20 14:50
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MinceRand what would i do in it? flip the "suck/do not suck" switch back?Jun 20 14:58
schestowitzdepending on the errorJun 20 15:09
schestowitzI sometimes open my gadgetsJun 20 15:09
schestowitzI fixed my laotop'\s screen's ones by buying replacement parts and screw drivers, wires, etc.Jun 20 15:10
MinceRi took my laptop to warranty serviceJun 20 15:11
MinceRthey fixed 3 out of 4 errorsJun 20 15:11
MinceRi hacked the fourth myselfJun 20 15:11
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ender_33what errors mincer?Jun 20 16:32
MinceRthe GPU fried itself twice, the hinge and the display part came apart and a key came off the keyboardJun 20 16:33
MinceR(and wouldn't stay on when i put it back)Jun 20 16:33
ender_33sounds like my DellJun 20 16:34
ender_33the GPU did fry itself, noVideoJun 20 16:34
MinceRit's a dellJun 20 16:34
MinceRand yes, nVidiaJun 20 16:34
ender_33yeah, I blame the gpu and I think nouveau amplified the problem with the lack of power managementJun 20 16:34
MinceRmight very well be nVidia's fault, though it was not among the chips listed as faultyJun 20 16:34
MinceRthen again, the distributor's response could have been better than "we have no idea when the replacement's going to arrive"Jun 20 16:35
ender_33mine was not in the list either, but Dell replaced it a year out of warrantyJun 20 16:35
MinceRnot to mention replacing it with one that fried itself in a few weeks so i had to take it back againJun 20 16:35
ender_33I suspect it was on a not so public listJun 20 16:35
MinceRcould beJun 20 16:35
ender_33they shipped me a box and I mailed it to themJun 20 16:36
ender_33no cost for meJun 20 16:36
ender_33it would've sucked if I had to deal with a shopJun 20 16:37
ender_33I used to work for one, they're all scamsJun 20 16:37
ender_33mincer, was yours a Linux model?Jun 20 16:38
ender_33When I was shopping I almost got the Dell XPS Code Red with all the fanciness and stuff  - I asked them if I could get it without windowsJun 20 16:38
ender_33the answer was no, but the next thing to happen was funJun 20 16:39
MinceRan nSeries modelJun 20 16:39
MinceR(shipped with no OS installed and with a FreeDOS disc in the box)Jun 20 16:39
ender_33they didnt approve my loan, they only offered me so much creditJun 20 16:39
ender_33I got the same one, but the ubuntu model without all the gimmicksJun 20 16:39
ender_33same hardwareJun 20 16:39
ender_33no flashy red case (code red turned out to be a scam too)Jun 20 16:40
MinceR:>Jun 20 16:40
MinceRi suppose that also means no annoying leds strewn around the case for blingJun 20 16:40
ender_33it was also a hell of a lot cheaperJun 20 16:40
ender_33code red+windows added on like $500Jun 20 16:40
ender_33the guy on the phone was so upsetJun 20 16:41
ender_33he was trying to get me to pick another one with windows with shittier hardwareJun 20 16:41
MinceR:>Jun 20 16:41
ender_33mine is the xps m1330Jun 20 16:41
ender_33http://youtu.be/xg0rcl2IXYUJun 20 16:43
TechrightsBot-scTitle: YouTube         - ‪My Dell XPS m1330 Laptop w/ Fedora 13‬‏ .::. Size~: 100.02 KBJun 20 16:43
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MinceRmine is an Inspiron 9400Jun 20 16:44
MinceRi'm planning to replace my home server with itJun 20 16:44
MinceRif it stays in one place, the case has little chance of coming apart :>Jun 20 16:44
MinceRand the keyboard won't see much useJun 20 16:44
MinceRon the other hand, i can take advantage of VT-x in a home serverJun 20 16:45
ender_33:)Jun 20 16:45
ender_33my girlfriend is using my m1330Jun 20 16:45
ender_33I use a netbook when I travelJun 20 16:45
ender_33or my two desktops at homeJun 20 16:46
ender_33one is really a serverJun 20 16:46
ender_33hp mini 110 is my netbookJun 20 16:46
MinceRmine is an Eee PC 1005HAJun 20 16:46
MinceRi'm hoping to replace it with a ThinkPad X220 Tablet soonJun 20 16:47
ender_33those are badassJun 20 16:47
ender_33"Thinkpad! TRANSFORM!"Jun 20 16:47
MinceRi don't like all the changes since the X201, but it's nice to have both VGA and DisplayPortJun 20 16:48
ender_33what about the i7Jun 20 16:48
MinceRit's acceptableJun 20 16:48
ender_33I'd like one of those in the desktopJun 20 16:49
ender_33my q6600 is out of date nowJun 20 16:49
MinceR(not that i wouldn't appreciate an AMD option...)Jun 20 16:49
ender_33a 6 core amd would be awesomeJun 20 16:50
ender_33but any i7 with HT will be seen as 8 logical processors not 6Jun 20 16:50
MinceRin a laptop or a desktop or a server?Jun 20 16:50
ender_33desktopJun 20 16:51
ender_33and serverJun 20 16:51
ender_33my server just slaves over a ZFS filesystem thoughJun 20 16:52
MinceRso it's a file server?Jun 20 16:52
schestowitz[15:11] <MinceR> i took my laptop to warranty serviceJun 20 16:52
schestowitzI did too while I still had warrantyJun 20 16:52
schestowitzThey wanted $500 to fix (replace the screen), I fixed it myself instead and it lasted since then... still working here in my living room more than 10 years laterJun 20 16:53
ender_33schestowitz - you realise the first time he showed his face in the channel he was spreading KDE4-Microsoft disinfoJun 20 16:57
ender_33(magic school bus)Jun 20 16:57
schestowitzThat'd bve ryanJun 20 16:58
schestowitzext4 FUD and later KDE4 FUDJun 20 16:58
schestowitzSince day 1Jun 20 16:58
schestowitzMinceR is one of these channels' veteransJun 20 16:58
schestowitzI think he has been in them since 2008Jun 20 16:58
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ender_33im talking about the other collusion theoristJun 20 16:59
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ender_33his speaker beeps if I say his nameJun 20 17:01
ender_33http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/irc-log-techrights-09052011.htmlJun 20 17:01
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ender_33"I think I've discovered something big -- Microsoft sabotaging Linux via KDE4."Jun 20 17:01
MinceRhilight is a common feature in IRC clients :>Jun 20 17:01
ender_33"The fundamental design philosophy of KDE4 was determined by focus groups populated by people off the street -- basically naive ms-windows users."Jun 20 17:04
ender_33You think that would be a good thing - people off the street to test usabilityJun 20 17:04
ender_33but no, MS CONSPIRACYJun 20 17:04
ender_33his source: someone he knows who cannot be named or sourcedJun 20 17:05
ender_33the first time I noticed him speak he was pushing drugsJun 20 17:05
ender_33entrapment I betJun 20 17:05
ender_33http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/irc-log-techrights-10052011.htmlJun 20 17:07
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MinceRi prefer design philosophies determined by software engineers :>Jun 20 17:08
ender_33what is your design goal?Jun 20 17:08
ender_33are you making software for users or software for developersJun 20 17:08
MinceRdevelopers are users too :>Jun 20 17:11
MinceRi'm bothJun 20 17:12
MinceRi like to use a GUI that was designed for me :>Jun 20 17:12
MinceR(note that targeting particular kinds of users is not mutually exclusive)Jun 20 17:12
ender_33I wonder how they did come up with that terrible start menuJun 20 17:15
ender_33I always use classicJun 20 17:15
schestowitz[17:01] <ender_33> "I think I've discovered something big -- Microsoft sabotaging Linux via KDE4."Jun 20 17:17
schestowitzyes, weird claim, I remember itJun 20 17:17
schestowitzTruly a WTH momentJun 20 17:18
ender_33yesJun 20 17:18
ender_33on the 10th he was pushing cannabisJun 20 17:18
schestowitzI'm not in favour of pushing itJun 20 17:19
schestowitzOr anythingJun 20 17:19
schestowitzBut I'm not in favour of pushing into the gutter people who set in on fireJun 20 17:19
schestowitz*itJun 20 17:19
schestowitzThe cops have more important jobs to do with the money I pay them via City CuncilJun 20 17:19
schestowitz*coJun 20 17:19
ender_33I agreeJun 20 17:20
ender_33its a waste of time to enforce itJun 20 17:20
ender_33the CIA is a known drug pusher, its counter productive for the departments to fight each otherJun 20 17:21
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/sjvn/status/82844030219730944Jun 20 17:22
TechrightsBot-sc@sjvn: @schestowitz FWIW, I liked the headline. Both Windows & Linux desktops are going down. Sigh.Jun 20 17:22
schestowitzI don't interpret the word Endgame as being negative, depends on whose side is assumed to be taken.Jun 20 17:22
schestowitzender_33: I heard also that the secret agencies sometimes provide items and instructions to provoke the public sometimes, in order to make themselves more necessaryJun 20 17:23
schestowitzDrug wars are good for that too. It makes people distrust one another and allow people to go through their drawers, to prove there's no vegetation or whatever in themJun 20 17:24
ender_33lolJun 20 17:26
ender_33I heard that limo's would pull up to uni campuses and toss over bags full of LSDJun 20 17:26
ender_33then drive offJun 20 17:26
schestowitzmaybe experimentJun 20 17:33
schestowitzWith risk passed to others without anyone to be held accountable :-)Jun 20 17:34
schestowitzhttp://i.imgur.com/l04X9.jpgJun 20 17:47
TechrightsBot-scNot a web page! Aborting image/jpeg typeJun 20 17:47
schestowitzhttp://i.imgur.com/TBcEF.jpgJun 20 17:48
TechrightsBot-scNot a web page! Aborting image/jpeg typeJun 20 17:48
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/sjvn/status/82847744770842624Jun 20 17:52
TechrightsBot-sc@sjvn: @schestowitz Most people do though. For me, it depends entirely on the position, but then I'm a life-long tournament chess player! :-)Jun 20 17:52
schestowitzNice...Jun 20 17:52
sebsebsebschestowitz: I am downloading 3.7GB  ,but taking a very long time, slow mirrorJun 20 17:57
schestowitzjust had mysql failJun 20 18:26
schestowitzjust 8 queries per second on this machineJun 20 18:26
schestowitzBack in 2009 my site was getting about 200 per second on average.. crazy timesJun 20 18:26
schestowitzHm... The book that I found has rough edges and it is old on the scale of research in pattern recognition. I will look for more recent papers on GPCA unless there's a recommendation.Jun 20 18:37
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ender_33roy - riddle me thisJun 20 20:35
ender_33schestowitzJun 20 20:36
ender_33why didn't anyone bash techrights based on my cospiracy talk in COLAJun 20 20:36
ender_33it only started after the other person came and started talking about 9/11Jun 20 20:37
qu1j0t3ender_33: it sounds like there's some kind of conspiracy behind thisJun 20 20:48
schestowitzThis could get recursiveJun 20 20:53
ender_33IJun 20 20:53
*schestowitz presses CTRL+CJun 20 20:53
ender_33''m still notmentionedJun 20 20:53
schestowitzc for "conpiracy"Jun 20 20:53
ender_33damn kbJun 20 20:53
ender_33you would think that neanderthallers would be prime cause for ridiculeJun 20 20:54
ender_33well thistleweb mentioned the posiblity earlierJun 20 20:55
ender_33ill be backJun 20 20:55
ender_33gotta reboot vm, too laggyJun 20 20:55
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schestowitzthe trolls use iRC logs to advertise this channel  http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/browse_thread/thread/30ed92ffd60e391f/9b95a62567f7482fJun 20 21:08
TechrightsBot-scTitle: So Much For Rolling Your Own...... -   comp.os.linux.advocacy |   Google Groups .::. Size~: 80.13 KBJun 20 21:08
schestowitzOh, "no".... please "don't"Jun 20 21:08
schestowitzThere trolls link to us... to "harm" usJun 20 21:08
*schestowitz raises two fingers in each handJun 20 21:09
MinceRat the same time, you link to him :>Jun 20 21:12
schestowitzMore advertising today... http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/browse_frm/thread/6c3b79e2d9d3b18d#Jun 20 21:12
TechrightsBot-scTitle: comp.os.linux.advocacy |   Google Groups .::. Size~: 42.06 KBJun 20 21:12
schestowitzMinceR: to encourage the trollsJun 20 21:12
schestowitzThey only help us, they can't help itJun 20 21:12
schestowitzI think they realise (some of them do and they say it out loud) that linking or mentioning is just promotionJun 20 21:13
schestowitzqu1j0t3 calls the HuffPo Fox's noise machineJun 20 21:13
schestowitzThey amplify the pro-Oil agenda of Fox rather than removing attention from itJun 20 21:13
qu1j0t3:)Jun 20 21:14
schestowitzsee, the trolls adveritse. Another new one: http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/browse_frm/thread/0d7bf11a24a9ccc6#Jun 20 21:16
TechrightsBot-scTitle: comp.os.linux.advocacy |   Google Groups .::. Size~: 42.06 KBJun 20 21:16
schestowitzMaybe this troll is dumb enough to be used against MicrosoftJun 20 21:16
schestowitzIt's like those tricks where the kid says "no", you say "yes", kid says "no", you say "yes, kid says "no", you say "no", kid says "YES"Jun 20 21:17
schestowitzAnyway, Huff and Puff qorks because I took interest in watching Fox just to analyse how they lie and misinterpretJun 20 21:18
schestowitzAnd I found some youtube channels that deconstruct Fox liesJun 20 21:18
schestowitzWhich does, in a sense, gives Fox higher ratingsJun 20 21:19
schestowitzHere's a good channel http://www.youtube.com/user/C0ct0pusPrimeJun 20 21:19
schestowitzHis language is NSFW thoughJun 20 21:19
TechrightsBot-scError processing the URLJun 20 21:20
qu1j0t3schestowitz: right, the risk is that you lend credibility or credence to them.Jun 20 21:20
qu1j0t3by discussing them.Jun 20 21:20
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bi3gZQ1fwDQJun 20 21:20
TechrightsBot-scTitle: YouTube         - ‪Fox News: Atheist Turned Believer After His Mom Wins $1 Million‬‏ .::. Size~: 114.97 KBJun 20 21:20
schestowitzThey once again use fake "atheists"Jun 20 21:20
qu1j0t3it can imply, to some people, that Fox is a valid 'news' outletJun 20 21:20
schestowitzThey do it all the timeJun 20 21:20
qu1j0t3same as NYT.Jun 20 21:20
qu1j0t3people call it a newspaper.Jun 20 21:20
schestowitzThey show their faithhead viewers fake atheistsJun 20 21:20
qu1j0t3like the new "Page One" propaganda piece that's coming to theatresJun 20 21:21
qu1j0t3Hollywood doing reputation laundry for NYT.Jun 20 21:21
schestowitzWho turns out to actually be "real believers" or "on the fence" or /darn DUMBJun 20 21:21
qu1j0t3NYT = war machine = WaPoJun 20 21:21
schestowitz[21:20] <qu1j0t3> by discussing them.Jun 20 21:21
schestowitzThat's one of the problem Groklaw and I have when rebutting Microsoft FlorianMJun 20 21:21
schestowitzBut he does need to be counteredJun 20 21:21
qu1j0t3yes, good example.Jun 20 21:22
schestowitzAt least the FOSS world knows he's a fraudJun 20 21:22
qu1j0t3Mueller is an excellent example of thisJun 20 21:22
schestowitz[21:21] <qu1j0t3> Hollywood doing reputation laundry for NYT.Jun 20 21:22
schestowitzI never though about itJun 20 21:22
schestowitz"Journal of record"Jun 20 21:22
schestowitzLOLJun 20 21:22
qu1j0t3same as de Icaza, who keeps his F/OSS hats so that he can lie from under themJun 20 21:22
schestowitzEven 2003 articles about Iraq WoMD?Jun 20 21:22
qu1j0t3schestowitz: the NYT never changed.Jun 20 21:22
schestowitzPentagon papers?Jun 20 21:23
schestowitzI heard a theory..Jun 20 21:23
schestowitzAbout why it published themJun 20 21:23
schestowitzit was too strange thoughJun 20 21:23
qu1j0t3i probably heard it too :)Jun 20 21:23
schestowitzThey have some good writrs thoughJun 20 21:24
qu1j0t3yes, like HuffPo, they syndicate some outliers.Jun 20 21:24
qu1j0t3it helpsJun 20 21:24
schestowitzLike.. what's his name... something like Kruschef..Jun 20 21:24
qu1j0t3see?Jun 20 21:24
schestowitzNot the Russian..Jun 20 21:24
qu1j0t3Kristof. but.. he's not always good.Jun 20 21:24
schestowitzHe's their activist one..Jun 20 21:24
qu1j0t3-sometimes- he's good.Jun 20 21:24
qu1j0t3sometimes he's terrible.Jun 20 21:24
schestowitz!google bing censorship new york times chinaJun 20 21:24
qu1j0t3heh, noJun 20 21:24
TechrightsBot-sc[1] - Boycott Microsoft Bing - NYTimes.com | http://kristof.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/11/20/boycott-microsoft-bing/Jun 20 21:24
TechrightsBot-sc[2] - Microsoft and Chinese Censorship - NYTimes.com | http://kristof.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/06/24/microsoft-and-chinese-censorship/Jun 20 21:24
TechrightsBot-sc[3] - Claims That Bing Censored Chinese Results, Google, Yahoo and Bing ... | http://www.hpseo.co.uk/article/claims-that-bing-censored-chinese-results/4561709Jun 20 21:24
TechrightsBot-sc[4] - Microsoft responds to call for Bing boycott over China censorship | http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2009/11/will-you-boycott-bing.arsJun 20 21:24
qu1j0t3he's not activist, schestowitzJun 20 21:24
schestowitzohJun 20 21:24
qu1j0t3the activist at NYT is KrugmanJun 20 21:24
schestowitzKristofJun 20 21:24
schestowitzThat's the oneJun 20 21:24
qu1j0t3Kristof is centrist, imhoJun 20 21:25
schestowitzHe also commented on the wikileaks story decentlyJun 20 21:25
qu1j0t3in any case, ppl like him are kept around to deflect criticismJun 20 21:25
qu1j0t3HuffPo does the same thing.Jun 20 21:25
qu1j0t3i don't trust Kristof.Jun 20 21:25
schestowitzOh, I see...Jun 20 21:25
schestowitzThey need thatJun 20 21:25
schestowitzFox has one tooJun 20 21:25
schestowitzNapolitano IIRCJun 20 21:25
qu1j0t3Shep SmithJun 20 21:25
schestowitz!google fox NapolitanoJun 20 21:26
TechrightsBot-sc[1] - Andrew P. Napolitano - Biography - FoxNews.com - Fox News | http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/personalities/andrew-p-napolitano/bio/Jun 20 21:26
TechrightsBot-sc[2] - Freedom Watch With The Judge » "Stay Free" – Judge Napolitano | http://freedomwatchonfox.com/Jun 20 21:26
TechrightsBot-sc[3] - Andrew Napolitano - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_NapolitanoJun 20 21:26
TechrightsBot-sc[4] - YouTube - RON PAULITICS: Fox News Judge Napolitano Endorses Ron Paul | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3D6IgTFHsUjoYJun 20 21:26
qu1j0t3yes, fox does it tooJun 20 21:26
schestowitz"Fair and balanced"Jun 20 21:26
qu1j0t3it makes it 'look' like a real news outlet.Jun 20 21:26
qu1j0t3'diversity of views'Jun 20 21:26
qu1j0t3LOLJun 20 21:26
schestowitz"Stop accusing us of being one-sided"Jun 20 21:26
qu1j0t3it's so amazingly obviousJun 20 21:26
schestowitz!google Napolitano lies about healthcare jailJun 20 21:26
TechrightsBot-sc[1] - YouTube - Judge Napolitano Lies about Health Care Reform | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DVqdlBZkl8qMJun 20 21:26
TechrightsBot-sc[2] - O'Reilly Caught In A Massive Lie About Jail Time | http://www.oreilly-sucks.com/jailtimelie.htmJun 20 21:26
TechrightsBot-sc[3] - Introduction to Lies The Government Told You by Andrew P. Napolitano | http://www.lewrockwell.com/napolitano/napolitano19.1.htmlJun 20 21:26
TechrightsBot-sc[4] - Healthcare - Best of the Left Podcast | http://www.bestoftheleftpodcast.com/category/healthcare/Jun 20 21:26
schestowitzIs he really a judge by the way?Jun 20 21:26
qu1j0t3it DOESN'T MATTER what fringe people you syndicate when you are doing Job #1 which is to validate the pro-war, or Gates Foundation, position.Jun 20 21:26
qu1j0t3the job is DONE.Jun 20 21:26
qu1j0t3you can scatter a few crumbs to centristsJun 20 21:26
qu1j0t3it doesn't matterJun 20 21:27
qu1j0t3Gates takes the headlines.Jun 20 21:27
qu1j0t3Friedman writes the books.Jun 20 21:27
schestowitzHe's speaking like he's semi-demented teleprompter readerJun 20 21:27
qu1j0t3who cares if Kristof is somewhere in the paper?Jun 20 21:27
qu1j0t3conservatives wouldn't even read Kristof or KrugmanJun 20 21:27
schestowitzHe doesJun 20 21:27
schestowitzOr his corner..Jun 20 21:27
schestowitzNYT caters to allJun 20 21:27
schestowitzJust skip the centrefoldJun 20 21:28
schestowitzAnd the backJun 20 21:28
schestowitzfootball, sex..Jun 20 21:28
qu1j0t3in Toronto we have a conservative journalist supposedly criticising NATOJun 20 21:28
qu1j0t3she's in Libya right nowJun 20 21:28
schestowitzAnd the front (fear, tease headline)Jun 20 21:28
qu1j0t3but her columns are pushing the centrist, consensus, pro-intervention line, constantlyJun 20 21:28
qu1j0t3like: "it's complicated. therefore we must bomb"Jun 20 21:28
schestowitz!google canada libya attach approvalJun 20 21:28
TechrightsBot-sc[1] - Combat helicopters enter Libya fray | http://www.globalnews.ca/world/Combat%2Bhelicopters%2Benter%2BLibya%2Bfray/4893057/story.htmlJun 20 21:28
TechrightsBot-sc[2] - Take Up CPC(ML)'s Work for Political Renewal on a New Historical Basis | http://www.cpcml.ca/Tmld2011/D41051.htmJun 20 21:28
TechrightsBot-sc[3] - Harper to put Libya mission extension before Parliament for approval | http://shabablibya.org/news/harper-to-put-libya-mission-extension-before-parliament-for-approvalJun 20 21:28
TechrightsBot-sc[4] - Canadian sailors 'calm' during Libyan attack - Canada - CBC News | http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2011/05/13/hmcs-charlottetown-skjerpen.htmlJun 20 21:28
schestowitzI see a lot of the "War criminal" theme nowJun 20 21:29
schestowitz!google harmer war crimesJun 20 21:29
TechrightsBot-sc[1] - FREE WILL: David Harmer For Congress | http://freewillsf.blogspot.com/2010/08/doug-harmer-for-congress.htmlJun 20 21:29
TechrightsBot-sc[2] - Humanitarian Action and the 'Global War on Terror': A Review of ... | http://www.securitymanagementinitiative.org/index.php%3Foption%3Dcom_docman%26task%3Ddoc_download%26gid%3D338%26Itemid%3D%26lang%3DenJun 20 21:29
TechrightsBot-sc[3] - Harmer | Search Results | UNCOVERAGE.net | http://www.uncoverage.net/%3Fs%3DHarmerJun 20 21:29
TechrightsBot-sc[4] - Bannock County Adds Prosecutors | http://www.co.bannock.id.us/prosecutor/articles/press_release_3.htmlJun 20 21:29
schestowitz!google harper war crimesJun 20 21:29
TechrightsBot-sc[1] - War crimes investigation proceeding against Canadian Prime ... | http://presscore.ca/2011/%3Fp%3D1167Jun 20 21:29
TechrightsBot-sc[2] - Prime Minister Stephen Harper and Canadian War Crimes in Afghanistan | http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php%3Fcontext%3Dva%26aid%3D24473Jun 20 21:29
TechrightsBot-sc[3] - Obama, Sarkozy, Cameron and Harper declared war criminals. | http://remnantbrideofjesus.blogspot.com/2011/06/obama-sarkozy-cameron-and-harper.htmlJun 20 21:29
TechrightsBot-sc[4] - harper war crimes heads | Flickr - Photo Sharing! | http://www.flickr.com/photos/tiganatoo/4420883921/Jun 20 21:29
schestowitz!google michael moore pays critic siteJun 20 21:31
TechrightsBot-sc[1] - Michael Moore Pays Medical Bills of Conservative Critic's Wife | http://www.shortnews.com/start.cfm%3Fid%3D62549Jun 20 21:31
TechrightsBot-sc[2] - Michael Moore : EXPOSED! | http://www.mooreexposed.com/Jun 20 21:31
TechrightsBot-sc[3] - Sicko - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SickoJun 20 21:31
TechrightsBot-sc[4] - Daily Kos: Michael Moore anonymously pays the medical premiums of ... | http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/05/18/336249/-Michael-Moore-anonymously-pays-the-medical-premiums-of-his-biggest-criticJun 20 21:31
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schestowitzIMHO, as he then bragged about it he gave this impression that he is open to criticismJun 20 21:32
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schestowitzBut he also helps an amplifier criticJun 20 21:32
schestowitzThey just don't know how to do it rightJun 20 21:32
schestowitzLike the Apple troll who created a whole site dedicated to attacking our siteJun 20 21:32
schestowitzHe was a marketing guy... a poor one at that if his intention was to hurt the 'competition'Jun 20 21:33
schestowitzMicrosoft usually tries to just ignore the competition, openofifce.org for exampleJun 20 21:33
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