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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Or, be absorbed into Libre Office... ;-D | Jun 02 00:01 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joindiaspora/@joindiaspora] Diaspora's first year, with graphs! http://bit.ly/jzUisc #graphs | Jun 02 00:06 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Being overrun by pigs... | Jun 02 00:09 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @fabsh I face copyright issues as a creator from a family of creators, in art, music, words and code and as a member of culture & humanity | Jun 02 00:14 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] The #TorChallenge has added its 100th relay to the Tor network! Congrats to dotIS! | Jun 02 00:31 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @fabsh My reality is plenty real, thanks. Perhaps your narrow view provides your feeling of entitlement to dictate the future of !copyright | Jun 02 00:31 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @fabsh you indicated your interest in copyright issues was based on the fact you "produce audio and am interested in software" | Jun 02 00:36 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @fabsh I am looking for answers; you are busy telling me what I may ask and dismissing any views contrary to your own in a knee-jerk fashion | Jun 02 00:38 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @fabsh Perhaps you should listen and consider what others say sometimes; it is amazing how much there is to learn. | Jun 02 00:39 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @lstench @mohanpram according to this you should be boycotting Sony http://www.defectivebydesign.org/apology-not-accepted-sony-boycot ... | Jun 02 00:41 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Ada Initiative "Seed 100" donation campaign opens http://lwn.net/Articles/445718/rss | Jun 02 00:48 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] Update: Spread Firefox is taking a breather http://chickswhoclick.wordpress.com/2011/06/01/update-spread-firefox-is-taking-a-breather/ | Jun 02 00:58 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Update: Spread Firefox is taking a breather « Chicks Who Click .::. Size~: 26.7 KB | Jun 02 00:58 |
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*Now talking on #techrights | Jun 02 01:05 | |
*Topic for #techrights is: TechRights.org | Channel #techrights for http://TechRights.org | Free Software Sentry – watching and reporting maneuvers of those who oppose software freedom | Jun 02 01:05 | |
*Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Wed Sep 22 21:19:38 2010 | Jun 02 01:05 | |
-NickServ-You are now identified for schestowitz. | Jun 02 01:05 | |
-MemoServ-You have 3 new memos. | Jun 02 01:05 | |
-MemoServ-To read them, type /msg MemoServ READ NEW | Jun 02 01:05 | |
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There's an interesting story evolving about Microsoft and ARM. | Jun 02 01:07 | |
Pogson blogged about it today and now comes the exclusion of Taiwanese companies. | Jun 02 01:08 | |
-> Microsoft has invited chip vendors, including Intel, AMD, Nvidia, Texas Instruments and Qualcomm, as well as a few PC vendors to participate in the program. However, Taiwan-based vendors Acer, Asustek Computer and HTC are locked out, arousing considerable controversy in Taiwan. Microsoft may hope to set rules on its own and the invitation to chip vendors is to save possible trouble, Wang said. But from the point of view of Taiwan-base | Jun 02 01:08 | |
from http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20110531PD213.html | Jun 02 01:08 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Microsoft should set rules from viewpoint of ecosystem, says Acer chairman .::. Size~: 74.31 KB | Jun 02 01:08 |
via http://mrpogson.com/2011/05/31/microsoft-squeaks-no-one-listens/ | Jun 02 01:08 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Microsoft Squeaks. No One Listens. at Robert Pogson .::. Size~: 66.02 KB | Jun 02 01:08 |
schestowitz | https://twitter.com/#!/tachyondecay/status/52162987741560832 | Jun 02 01:09 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @tachyondecay: Nice, Google lets you know when it's removed search results owing to a DMCA notice and links to it on @ChillingEffects! | Jun 02 01:09 |
ha, they did that kind of thing in China too | Jun 02 01:10 | |
schestowitz | We are CHina | Jun 02 01:10 |
schestowitz | China is us | Jun 02 01:10 |
owned by China ... meet your new boss | Jun 02 01:12 | |
he's not the same as your old boss | Jun 02 01:14 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Way too late. Made some good progress on !LO 210, now I'm off to bed... | Jun 02 01:21 | |
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GoForbes28 | schestowitz: I just of the perfect parody term to describe the Microsoft patent deals! | Jun 02 01:23 |
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GoForbes28 | *thought of | Jun 02 01:24 |
GoForbes28 | will tell you later | Jun 02 01:24 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Oh yeah... the reason I popped in was to announce: "Inconstant Moon" serialization segment #4 is online :) http://ur1.ca/4bhks ! | Jun 02 01:34 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I learned the data backup lesson on computers the hard way and unfortunately had to relearn the lesson for phones. | Jun 02 01:39 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Hmm, I'm hearing some !disturbing rumors of #tornado warnings and state of emergency for #Massachusetts | Jun 02 01:41 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @speeddefrost @fabsh The problem with "legal frameworks" is that they don't even equally protect people anymore. They're only there f ... | Jun 02 01:41 | |
schestowitz | GoForbes28: yo | Jun 02 01:45 |
schestowitz | I'm back, what's the deal? | Jun 02 01:46 |
schestowitz | You needn't PM me BTW | Jun 02 01:46 |
schestowitz | It's just leads to clutter on my desktop | Jun 02 01:46 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Pressure is Mounting for All Software Patents to be Tossed Out, Even in the United States http://is.gd/Uv8bQR #swpats #eu #uspto #epo | Jun 02 01:48 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Pressure is Mounting for All Software Patents to be Tossed Out, Even in the United States http://is.gd/Uv8bQR #patent #monopoly #patenttroll | Jun 02 01:48 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @Crosbie: @fabsh 'control my code' => 'control what other people do with my published work' => unnatural power => privilege. | Jun 02 01:48 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @bkuhn @laurelrusswurm,If you show me a lobbying org that's working on © abolition w/ a solution that protects software freedom, I'll ... | Jun 02 01:49 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @haris !shared Dylan: What's Yours Is Mine, And What's Mine Is Mine, Too http://b1t.it/lIC | Jun 02 01:51 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Dylan: What's Yours Is Mine, And What's Mine Is Mine, Too | Techdirt .::. Size~: 71.84 KB | Jun 02 01:51 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] FUD of the Day http://is.gd/K42ReX always such provocative insinuations | Jun 02 01:53 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Four tweaks to bring back missing functionality in #GNOME 3.0 http://is.gd/5cMXln #gnu #linux | Jun 02 01:54 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Statement about Oracle’s move to donate OpenOffice.org assets to the Apache Foundation http://is.gd/JXLEYY #ooo #libreoffice #odf #ibm | Jun 02 01:59 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Severe thunderstorm warnings in #Boston and elsewhere in #Massachusetts #feelslikerichmondindiana !disturbing | Jun 02 01:59 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Statement about Oracle’s move to donate OpenOffice.org assets to the Apache Foundation « The Document Foundation Blog .::. Size~: 61.65 KB | Jun 02 01:59 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Skype Out - Pidgin In http://is.gd/1CF36b 'Tis the season to dump #Microsoft #skype | Jun 02 02:01 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @crosbie @fabsh 'control my code' => 'control what other people do with my published work' => unnatural power => privilege. | Jun 02 02:01 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Skype Out - Pidgin In | Linux Journal .::. Size~: 60.78 KB | Jun 02 02:01 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Review of #Xubuntu 11.04 http://is.gd/P1XvU6 "Rating: 4/5" #xfce #ubuntu #gnu #linux | Jun 02 02:06 | |
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sebsebseb | schestowitz: Got a working headset now, however it's a USB headset, so may have to use WIndows for it | Jun 02 02:11 |
sebsebseb | schestowitz: Ubuntu 11.04 well no luck here, not tried Mandriva 2010.2 on other computer with it yet | Jun 02 02:12 |
sebsebseb | a lap top with XP though, after changing a setting in XP, well yep works there :) | Jun 02 02:12 |
sebsebseb | ,but yeah it's great can record voice :) | Jun 02 02:12 |
DaemonFC | sebsebseb, Most of those actually work on Linux but you may need to configure Pulseaudio for it | Jun 02 02:13 |
DaemonFC | I couldn't get mine to work without Pulseaudio installed and configured | Jun 02 02:13 |
sebsebseb | DaemonFC: yeah exactly, it can probably work on Linux as well, just needs some configuring | Jun 02 02:14 |
sebsebseb | DaemonFC: had to buy a new ethernet cable earlier as well, and get the socket sorted out | Jun 02 02:14 |
sebsebseb | since problems with that | Jun 02 02:14 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] Wow, IBM really hates The Document Foundation - read the comments: http://www.robweir.com/blog/2011/06/apache-openoffice.html | Jun 02 02:14 | |
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sebsebseb | DaemonFC: been shopping with my brothers | Jun 02 02:15 |
sebsebseb | spent a lot of money as well | Jun 02 02:15 |
sebsebseb | I mean in the day I went | Jun 02 02:15 |
sebsebseb | DVD's, clothes, a game for my little brother | Jun 02 02:15 |
sebsebseb | new PS3 game so pretty expensive | Jun 02 02:15 |
DaemonFC | the Phony DRMstation 3 | Jun 02 02:18 |
DaemonFC | now without LUNIX | Jun 02 02:18 |
DaemonFC | :P | Jun 02 02:18 |
sebsebseb | DaemonFC: PS3 game for my little brother | Jun 02 02:20 |
sebsebseb | his birthday is soon | Jun 02 02:20 |
DaemonFC | yep, all good drug dealers know how to market to kids | Jun 02 02:20 |
sebsebseb | DaemonFC: ,but he was there as well, so he knew what was bought | Jun 02 02:20 |
DaemonFC | get the Sony and Microsoft crap into the house while they're young | Jun 02 02:20 |
DaemonFC | :) | Jun 02 02:20 |
sebsebseb | and that | Jun 02 02:20 |
sebsebseb | ,but most expensive presant I have bought anyone | Jun 02 02:21 |
DaemonFC | then DRM is just a fact of life | Jun 02 02:21 |
sebsebseb | and yeah I know what you mean | Jun 02 02:21 |
sebsebseb | and why so expensive, and the cheaper newer games only about £2 less | Jun 02 02:21 |
sebsebseb | anyway why so expensive? simple | Jun 02 02:21 |
sebsebseb | ,because kids wiill beg their parants and so on to buy the games for them | Jun 02 02:21 |
DaemonFC | there's a lot of reasons why video games are really expensive. Artificial scarcity, plus passing along costs of licensing crap like MP3 that they don't need. | Jun 02 02:22 |
DaemonFC | Then the retailer takes a cut. | Jun 02 02:22 |
sebsebseb | DaemonFC: he's going to be 10 soon, and I look forward to the day, where I can hopefuly explain to him about software freedom and such, and explain why that's one reason why it's a good idea to use Linux most of the time instead of Windows | Jun 02 02:22 |
sebsebseb | I mean at the moemnt he doesn't understand, and I can't explain to him or try to, without him switching off or not understanding and all that you know. I mean earlier he was basically saying when I said like well might have to use the headset with Windows, and he's like what's wrong with Windows anyway? | Jun 02 02:23 |
DaemonFC | the actual disc and packaging for a video game costs about $2 maybe | Jun 02 02:23 |
sebsebseb | well yeah | Jun 02 02:23 |
DaemonFC | the rest of that $58 is profit for various people | Jun 02 02:23 |
DaemonFC | and then there's state sales tax | Jun 02 02:23 |
DaemonFC | which here is 7% | Jun 02 02:23 |
sebsebseb | state sales tax? well I am from UK, but we got VAT | Jun 02 02:24 |
sebsebseb | Value Added Tax | Jun 02 02:24 |
sebsebseb | which is part of the price for that kind of stuff | Jun 02 02:24 |
DaemonFC | well, heh | Jun 02 02:24 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] Congrats to the !PiTiVi team on 0.14 "No longer kills kittens" with effects from !GStreamer and !Kdenlive and more! http://redd.it/hpjf2 | Jun 02 02:24 | |
sebsebseb | also yeah PSP3 pft | Jun 02 02:24 |
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sebsebseb | seems Sony are in a right mess now anyway | Jun 02 02:25 |
DaemonFC | first the feds take tax out of your paycheck, then they hit you again for Social Security and FICA (which is Medicare, free health insurance for old people) | Jun 02 02:25 |
DaemonFC | then the state hits you up | Jun 02 02:25 |
sebsebseb | I mean I read it came back online, and then another attack | Jun 02 02:25 |
DaemonFC | then the county you live in | Jun 02 02:25 |
DaemonFC | then you pay sales tax on whatever you buy with whatever you have left | Jun 02 02:25 |
enthymeme | schestowitz: thanks again for the link. Quittin' time for me! | Jun 02 02:26 |
DaemonFC | basically every time you get paid they take a hue chunk out of your check and use it to pay old people to sit at home on their ass and get free health care that you're also paying for | Jun 02 02:26 |
DaemonFC | :) | Jun 02 02:26 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] waitin' for the partaybus to leave while @huertanix reads IEEE spectrum. #heatsyncstatus #imcominghomeeveryone | Jun 02 02:26 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @stav Marilyn Monroe was born 85 years ago !onthisdate | Jun 02 02:26 | |
DaemonFC | then the old people elect the politicians that promise to take more from you to give to them | Jun 02 02:26 |
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DaemonFC | so every few years, the tax rate goes up | Jun 02 02:27 |
sebsebseb | DaemonFC: exactly though with these games | Jun 02 02:27 |
sebsebseb | most of it is profit for various people or companies | Jun 02 02:27 |
DaemonFC | or the state | Jun 02 02:27 |
sebsebseb | the packaging and disc hardly costs anything to make as you say | Jun 02 02:27 |
DaemonFC | you can get around state sales tax by buying from an out of state company | Jun 02 02:27 |
sebsebseb | and the software itself, well it's propritary software, they make it once | Jun 02 02:27 |
DaemonFC | legally you're required to declare that | Jun 02 02:27 |
sebsebseb | and keep on selling the same thing | Jun 02 02:27 |
DaemonFC | I don't | Jun 02 02:27 |
DaemonFC | they get enough of my damned money already | Jun 02 02:27 |
DaemonFC | :) | Jun 02 02:28 |
sebsebseb | and you just copy software to sell again, you know | Jun 02 02:28 |
sebsebseb | so yeah it's mainly profit | Jun 02 02:28 |
sebsebseb | and they sell millions of the game or whatever, so yep a lot of profit | Jun 02 02:28 |
sebsebseb | DaemonFC: ,but yeah exactly, lock kids in to this kind of stuff when young | Jun 02 02:28 |
sebsebseb | get them locked in when young, and they may be for life | Jun 02 02:29 |
sebsebseb | that's to game consoles, mobile phones, even social networking sites | Jun 02 02:29 |
sebsebseb | and of course the usual, WIndows, Microsoft Office | Jun 02 02:29 |
sebsebseb | to some extent even fast food places, like Macdonals or Burger King or KFC, have it once, and likely to want to go there again another time, for more | Jun 02 02:29 |
DaemonFC | there's so many ways for the government to abuse cell phones to spy on you with | Jun 02 02:29 |
DaemonFC | they love them | Jun 02 02:29 |
DaemonFC | well, fast food and cigarettes kind of bring the problem of socialized healthcare front and center | Jun 02 02:30 |
DaemonFC | the sickest people are getting the most out of such a system | Jun 02 02:31 |
DaemonFC | and a lot of the reasons for people being sick are self-inflicted | Jun 02 02:31 |
sebsebseb | well yeah to much of that, not healthey at all by far | Jun 02 02:31 |
sebsebseb | ,but a few times a year, not that bad for most of us really I guess | Jun 02 02:32 |
DaemonFC | a lot of the fast food companies in the US are trying to spin doctor their images | Jun 02 02:32 |
DaemonFC | who the hell goes to McDonalds for a salad and a fruit parfait? | Jun 02 02:32 |
DaemonFC | :) | Jun 02 02:32 |
sebsebseb | DaemonFC: well yeah you don't go there for healthey food | Jun 02 02:33 |
abeNd-org | besides, it is the dressing that gets you | Jun 02 02:35 |
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sebsebseb | abeNd-org: it's the milkshakes that get me | Jun 02 02:36 |
abeNd-org | mmm | Jun 02 02:36 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] It's too bad this isn't the NFL so the #Bruins could decline the penalties -- they might actually score. | Jun 02 02:36 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @vanden ♻ @millette: The largest Canadian #copyright class action suit has been settled for $50 million. http://ur1.ca/4bqqh | Jun 02 02:36 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Funny, the how the worst !copyright infringers don't go to jail and commit suicide. | Jun 02 02:38 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] Helluva storm, is this the Lightning's revenge? | Jun 02 02:39 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] "next time you meet a !Free Software lawyer, please - shake their hand" http://people.gnome.org/~michael/blog/2011-06-01.html #Meeks | Jun 02 02:53 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] RT @noyesk: Oracle To Give OpenOffice.org To Apache Incubator http://bit.ly/mT4tne Wow. | Jun 02 02:54 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Oracle To Give OpenOffice.org To Apache Incubator - Slashdot .::. Size~: 134.16 KB | Jun 02 02:54 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] RT @glynmoody: Ditching Copyleft to Compete with a Fork? http://bit.ly/lSTF0t analysis of licensing implications OpenOffice move to apache | Jun 02 02:56 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Ditching Copyleft to Compete with a Fork? - Bradley M. Kuhn ( Brad ) ( bkuhn ) .::. Size~: 25.69 KB | Jun 02 02:56 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @wayneborean Yes. Tragically lost far too young. | Jun 02 03:11 | |
DaemonFC | it's been nothing but sour grapes from OOo lately | Jun 02 03:14 |
DaemonFC | their office suite sucked, the reasons were largely political and/or due to the copyright assignment requirement, and it failed | Jun 02 03:15 |
DaemonFC | now they're throwing all of the code out there as a free for all so that all the vultures like IBM and Softmaker can just simply rip it off in total and give nothing back (or anyone else that didn't already have a GPL exception from SCOracle) | Jun 02 03:16 |
DaemonFC | Most Linux distributions that were shipping OOo really didn't ship OOo, it was really Go-OO which had most of the pile of patches that went into LibreOffice, and that's why they worked so well | Jun 02 03:17 |
DaemonFC | one of the things I think Oracle is afraid of is LibreOffice becoming faster and less dependent on Java, which is already mostly irrelevant on a desktop | Jun 02 03:20 |
DaemonFC | OOo is a trojan horse to get Java onto your system, and Java-based malware on Windows at least is responsible for quite a lot of a pie chart | Jun 02 03:22 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] ♺ @lessig From the wildly-cool-news dept: YouTube now gives users ability to CC license vids. http://t.co/C2S5QSx !CC !LP !FreeCulture !sfc | Jun 02 03:23 | |
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DaemonFC | schestowitz, http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2011/06/microsoft-joins-pre-emptive-patent-protection-program.ars | Jun 02 03:27 |
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DaemonFC | heh | Jun 02 03:27 |
tell me about Solaris malware that uses java and I might think there's a problem that's not Windows or Microsoft's perverted java. (07:25:08 PM) DaemonFC: OOo is a trojan horse to get Java onto your system, and Java-based malware on Windows at least is responsible for quite a lot of a pie chart | Jun 02 03:31 | |
DaemonFC | twitter, The problem is Oracle's Java VM | Jun 02 03:31 |
DaemonFC | Microsoft doesn't have one | Jun 02 03:31 |
Microsoft lost an anti-trust case over java manipulation. | Jun 02 03:33 | |
the idiots still hate java and thwart it on Windows | Jun 02 03:33 | |
they also still FUD it, which mostly goes to show that the company is still lost in some kind of mid 90s war of conquest | Jun 02 03:34 | |
As most of the world shifts off desktops to Android, which uses java extensively, the microtards are busy recycling java fud. | Jun 02 03:35 | |
only idiots use their replacement, C# and notNET | Jun 02 03:36 | |
I have to agree with Khun, " relicensing part of the codebase out from under LibreOffice may actually be the most insidious attack Oracle and IBM could make on the project. Unilateral relicense is the single most destabilizing action you can take against a Free Software community, particularly if the relicense comes from wholly outside the community" | Jun 02 03:43 | |
bad mojo | Jun 02 03:43 | |
just the same, Oracle and Sun had already given themselves the ability to make non free garbage for Open Office. | Jun 02 03:45 | |
the best thing Libre Office can do is go gpl3 | Jun 02 03:47 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] YouTube offering Creative Commons licensing option (attribution only): http://ur1.ca/4brtg | Jun 02 03:53 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @dpic ♺ @lessig From the wildly-cool-news dept: YouTube now gives users ability to CC license vids. http://t.co/C2S5QSx !CC !LP !Free ... | Jun 02 03:59 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: YouTube Now Lets You License Videos Under Creative Commons (Remixers, Rejoice) .::. Size~: 51.96 KB | Jun 02 03:59 |
DaemonFC | LibreOffice can't go GPL 3 | Jun 02 04:07 |
DaemonFC | they have the same issue Linux does where they couldn't relicense it if they wanted to | Jun 02 04:08 |
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DaemonFC | anyone know where I could get a Miro 4 RPM? | Jun 02 04:21 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/legal/2011-June/001654.html !AGPL #iText !disturbing | Jun 02 04:28 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] summary of the backlash against #Unity & #GnomeShell - "there's no place like Gnome" | Jun 02 04:49 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fontana isn't any ©'d material copied from iText to the PDF it outputs? | Jun 02 04:54 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] hey, why doesn't Apache welcome !LibreOffice developers by offering to maintain Oracle code under its original license? | Jun 02 04:56 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] /me wonders how many followers #Jesus would get if he came back, and joined #Twitter | Jun 02 05:23 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] [$] A conversation with Linus at LinuxCon Japan http://lwn.net/Articles/445687/rss | Jun 02 05:36 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Worthwhile 1hr20m video of James Gosling talking about Apple, Apache, Google, Oracle etc - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ei-rbULWoA | Jun 02 05:43 | |
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DaemonFC | ThistleWeb, He could feed them all with a loaf of bread and a fail whale | Jun 02 05:48 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Glad to see a positive note from The Document Foundation about OO.o being donated to ASF - http://ur1.ca/4bnoc | Jun 02 05:51 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] Yes, yes, yes. I'm really excited about Lawyers in Hell/ I've been sending updates to @bsookman regularly. I know Janet Morris, the editor. | Jun 02 05:53 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] RT @laurelrusswurm: Funny, the how the worst !copyright infringers don't go to jail and commit suicide. | Jun 02 05:54 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] U.S. #P2P Lawsuit Shows Signs of a ‘Pirate Honeypot’ http://is.gd/kh3HKK | Jun 02 05:56 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @lxoliva I suppose that might change the answer, but the discussion on debian-legal didn't lead me to believe this is so. | Jun 02 05:59 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Talking About Why The PROTECT IP Act Is Bad News... http://is.gd/FWZvZ9 | Jun 02 06:01 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Talking About Why The PROTECT IP Act Is Bad News... | Techdirt .::. Size~: 60.26 KB | Jun 02 06:01 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #MedicalJustice Caught Posting Happy Reviews Of Doctors; Claims It's Just Helping Patients http://is.gd/zFIt9W | Jun 02 06:04 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] guess it's safe to assume every doctor who hires #MedicalJustice is incompetent, someone to avoid like the plague | Jun 02 06:04 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Medical Justice Caught Posting Happy Reviews Of Doctors; Claims It's Just Helping Patients | Techdirt .::. Size~: 45.77 KB | Jun 02 06:04 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Detailed response on #iText issue by me on !fedora -legal-list: http://ur1.ca/4bsmu !AGPL !GPL | Jun 02 06:06 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Another Artificial Market Created Thanks To Copyright: Download Insurance? http://is.gd/9Y8MyE can only exist with consumer hostile #DRM | Jun 02 06:09 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Why PROTECT IP Breaks The Internet http://is.gd/IVcbRM | Jun 02 06:11 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Work on a Free Software GPRS/EDGE stack! http://is.gd/4kWyXm #mobile #telephony #gnu #linux #software | Jun 02 06:13 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Microsoft Skype http://is.gd/mq2L9P #microsoft #skype #voip #software | Jun 02 06:19 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @iurie: Încă o distribuție complet liberă: #Parabola GNU/Linux http://ur1.ca/4bpd5 #ceata #fiiliber #gnu #linux #fsf | Jun 02 06:21 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Samba case hearing: How Microsoft’s gamble backfired http://is.gd/U8B6EB #samba #microsoft #trial #software #gnu #fsfe #linux #windows | Jun 02 06:28 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] I had to make another bikey bag http://www.jezra.net/blog/bikey_bag_part_two #shamelessselfpromotion | Jun 02 06:34 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Desktop Linux: a full Xubuntu 11.04 review http://is.gd/P1XvU6 #gnu #linux #desktop #software #microsoft #windows | Jun 02 06:34 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kernellogauthor/@kernellogauthor] #Git 1.7.5.4 announced http://bit.ly/j5uMqa | Jun 02 06:43 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] The new GNU mailing list server http://is.gd/h6264m #hardware #email #gnu #linux #fsf | Jun 02 06:44 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk you'll have to explain what you mean when we're both awake (me especially or it'll be a waste :) | Jun 02 07:56 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] good night !identiverse | Jun 02 07:56 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @v4ibhav: [Blog] Demo Of Digia’s eBook Application From The MeeGo Conference http://bit.ly/mBhSuO | Jun 02 08:04 | |
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schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/75128056 | Jun 02 08:20 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @agentsmith's status on Thursday, 02-Jun-11 00:55:29 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz I don't think they(Oracle & IBM) will succeed. But, with friends like these, FLOSS doesn't need enemies. :-) | Jun 02 08:20 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] Tweed Suit - A heavy weight twitter client has reached extra-devel with version 0.7.7-1 http://is.gd/nykTj1 #N900 | Jun 02 08:26 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: maemo.org - Talk - View Single Post - [Announce] Tweed Suit - A heavy weight twitter client + .::. Size~: 16.91 KB | Jun 02 08:26 |
schestowitz | [03:27] <DaemonFC> schestowitz, http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2011/06/microsoft-joins-pre-emptive-patent-protection-program.ars | Jun 02 08:27 |
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schestowitz | seen that. Let's pretend the biggest patent troll 'fights' trolls | Jun 02 08:27 |
DaemonFC | they do when it suits them | Jun 02 08:27 |
DaemonFC | a human flesh search engine for patent-related prior art. You save Microsoft from a $5 million dollar lawsuit and the reward is only $5,000? | Jun 02 08:29 |
DaemonFC | hah | Jun 02 08:29 |
DaemonFC | this won't work | Jun 02 08:29 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Today is National Holiday in #Italy. Proclamation of the Republic. Cheers! | Jun 02 08:33 | |
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DaemonFC | that Javascript Doom is just pointless except as a novelty | Jun 02 08:41 |
DaemonFC | I don't get what the fascination is with Javascript lately | Jun 02 08:42 |
DaemonFC | "Oh look, we can take your Phenom II X4 and emulate a mostly functional 486!" | Jun 02 08:42 |
DaemonFC | Yes, but can you take that mostly functional 486 and use another layer of Javascript to emulate an 8088? | Jun 02 08:43 |
DaemonFC | B-) | Jun 02 08:43 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Intel touts 'ultrabooks'; Highlights #Android Honeycomb Atom-based tablet http://is.gd/eOwLKl #MIPS too http://is.gd/slCR2w #linux | Jun 02 08:46 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Intel uses monopoly it bribed for to overcharge people http://is.gd/g6p2mP http://is.gd/BsF3pZ | Jun 02 08:46 | |
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TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Think PCs will drop in price? Think again, warns Intel • Channel Register .::. Size~: 20.3 KB | Jun 02 08:46 |
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schestowitz | http://mrpogson.com/2011/05/31/reaping-the-whirlwind/ | Jun 02 08:47 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "According to #Nvidia CEO Huang Jen-Hsun, #Android is the fastest growing operating system in computing history" http://is.gd/yyzZB8 #linux | Jun 02 08:49 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "IBM’s Kevin Cavanaugh, VP of Collaboration Solutions., which lobbied for Oracle to spin #OpenOffice off" http://is.gd/yIhgbQ | Jun 02 08:51 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Oracle gives OpenOffice to Apache | ZDNet .::. Size~: 139.6 KB | Jun 02 08:51 |
schestowitz | https://twitter.com/fcassia/status/76192277411807232 | Jun 02 08:55 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @fcassia: @schestowitz don´t forget to turn company names into hashtags whenever possible, will bring more exposure to your tweets :) | Jun 02 08:55 |
schestowitz | Sometimes I forget | Jun 02 08:55 |
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DaemonFC | schestowitz: Maybe Calligra Suite is better | Jun 02 09:00 |
DaemonFC | LibreOffice and what's left of OOo are in this knock down drag out fight over something that never really worked that well anyway | Jun 02 09:00 |
DaemonFC | LibreOffice works better than OOo, but they inherit a lot of problems from it | Jun 02 09:01 |
DaemonFC | for one, Oracle still has copyright assignment on a lot of the code, so they can't just relicense it as they see fit | Jun 02 09:02 |
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DaemonFC | to relicense means they'd have to rebase off the Apache licensed OOo | Jun 02 09:02 |
DaemonFC | another problem is that it's huge for what it does, not MS Office huge, but huge | Jun 02 09:02 |
DaemonFC | it would be nice to see them just bury this OOo mess for good and go work on Calligra | Jun 02 09:03 |
DaemonFC | the people who want OOo licensed permissively are the ones who want to build proprietary software out of it and not give anything back | Jun 02 09:05 |
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schestowitz | Lotus | Jun 02 09:14 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #NATO report threatens to 'persecute' Anonymous http://is.gd/2Pr2jx what can they do? Bomb everyone? | Jun 02 09:14 | |
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schestowitz | Maybe IBM wants it licensed in a way that makes Symphony even more proprietary | Jun 02 09:17 |
DaemonFC | schestowitz: I've used Symphony before, it's laid out a bit better than OOo | Jun 02 09:17 |
DaemonFC | that's about the only difference I noticed | Jun 02 09:18 |
DaemonFC | like, you can use tabs and have a spreadsheet in one, and a text document in the other, and then you can click a hyperlink on a document and it spawns another tab that is a web browser for that | Jun 02 09:18 |
DaemonFC | it keeps your workflow in one main window, which is nice | Jun 02 09:19 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] migration to !mageia: complete :D | Jun 02 09:24 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #Mageia 1 is out http://goo.gl/pgpSx | Jun 02 09:34 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] U.S. #P2P Lawsuit Shows Signs of a ‘Pirate #Honeypot’ - wow, this could get *really* nasty | Jun 02 09:34 | |
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DaemonFC | actually, a huge scan they're doing now is posting gay porn torrents and threatening to sue anyone who downloads them unless they pay them $5,000 to shut up and go away | Jun 02 09:36 |
DaemonFC | "What would your wife think if she knew you were watching that?" | Jun 02 09:36 |
DaemonFC | heh | Jun 02 09:36 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Underground Website Where You Can Buy Any Drug Imaginable - http://gaw.kr/jLJBPS & so the demonisation of #bitcoin begins | Jun 02 09:36 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Magic is Born -> Mageia 1 Released - http://bit.ly/jpoZZl cool: another fork of a #fork (mandrake/mandriva was a fork of #redhat) | Jun 02 09:36 | |
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DaemonFC | *scam | Jun 02 09:36 |
DaemonFC | thanks to our legal system being as stacked as it is, they can sue you for downloading something THEY (or an agent of theirs) posted in the first place | Jun 02 09:37 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] mclasen: Of wrapping and windows in !GNOME: http://goo.gl/vfV5D | Jun 02 09:38 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Klout introduces +K peer verification for social influence - http://tnw.co/lYvQvw now that's what I call a social currency | Jun 02 09:38 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] I started the day with a #Nescafé Dolce Gusto Cappuccino... I love our coffee machine! | Jun 02 09:38 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] UK undermining Europe's #tarsands ban, say campaigners - http://bit.ly/jpR2mK hey, Dave, what about those #green credentials? #shame | Jun 02 09:39 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] U.S. #P2P Lawsuit Shows Signs of a ‘Pirate #Honeypot’ - http://bit.ly/l1ba9v wow, this could get *really* nasty | Jun 02 09:39 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ES: Intercambio de Patentes: ‘Una Solución a un Problema de Abogados’ http://is.gd/rMG6XI #swpats #eu | Jun 02 09:41 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Decriminalise possession of #drugs, celebrities urge government - http://bit.ly/jMNgiK UK gov gives usual moronic reply | Jun 02 09:46 | |
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MinceR | yawnings | Jun 02 09:48 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The laugh-a-minute reign of Italy’s clown prince - http://bit.ly/j7Klhg if you need cheering up, try this... (v @LifeinSicily) #berlusconi | Jun 02 09:51 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @glynmoody: The Underground Website Where You Can Buy Any Drug Imaginable - http://gaw.kr/jLJBPS & so the demonisation of #bitcoin begins | Jun 02 09:51 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Five Similarities between Collaborative Consumption and #OpenSource Technology - http://bit.ly/kI9BS3 nicely done #collcons | Jun 02 09:53 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Give Me Orwell Or Give Me Cyber-Crime - http://onforb.es/kxdz19 rehash of Blair's "ID cards strengthen civil liberties" doublespeak | Jun 02 09:54 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Alki David #Copyright Suit Against CNET Has Only One Movie, Five Songs - http://bit.ly/ivA8Bz even more ridiculous | Jun 02 09:54 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #YouTube Now Lets You License Videos Under Creative Commons (Remixers, Rejoice) - http://tcrn.ch/kGht80 it's taken *this* long? #cc | Jun 02 09:58 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Song for all you !miners today: Mark Knopfler & Emmylou Harris - I Dug Up A Diamond | Jun 02 10:01 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] I can do this :-)! http://ur1.ca/4btf5 | Jun 02 10:03 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Nigeria 'baby farm' girls rescued by Abia state police http://is.gd/k6L8R8 | Jun 02 10:08 | |
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DaemonFC | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6m5TuxdkfkE | Jun 02 10:09 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Spain: Open Source software widely used by the regional government of Extremadura - http://bit.ly/kynNbb reviewing great work #es | Jun 02 10:09 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @glynmoody Spain: Open Source software widely used by the regional government of Extremadura - http://bit.ly/kynNbb reviewing great w ... | Jun 02 10:11 | |
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DaemonFC | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fz2_NkyTv8E&feature=related | Jun 02 10:14 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] A pivotal moment for #Microsoft as it attempts to escape its #Windows legacy - http://bit.ly/lg18FS good analysis of MS's difficult task | Jun 02 10:14 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Putting a price on nature can't be worse than giving it all away for free - http://bit.ly/lQDPxQ time to account for externalities | Jun 02 10:18 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Putting a price on nature can't be worse than giving it all away for free | Damian Carrington | Environment | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 113.15 KB | Jun 02 10:18 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Microsoft joins pre-emptive #patent protection program - http://bit.ly/in1UsN "startup that pays cash rewards to discoverers of prior art" | Jun 02 10:24 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] How #Nokia Didn’t Listen To Itself - http://bit.ly/jrySHZ lovely historical analysis | Jun 02 10:28 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @copyrightgirl Images & #Copyright: what would you like to know? Help me crowdsource questions/info & I can write a blog post on it :-) | Jun 02 10:29 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Reine Werbung IMHO. Liebe FAZ, wie tief wollt Ihr noch fallen? Das soll ein redaktioneller Beutrag sein? http://ur1.ca/4btig | Jun 02 10:31 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] A2K Standards Proposed for UN Consumer Guidelines - http://bit.ly/mMinna great stuff - so it will never catch on #copyright | Jun 02 10:34 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Lodsys Sues Developers Ahead Of The Deadline It Gave Developers To Pay Up http://is.gd/GWAI5k #PatentTroll | Jun 02 10:36 | |
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schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/75152692 | Jun 02 10:37 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @Fabian Scherschel (fabsh)'s status on Thursday, 02-Jun-11 08:51:10 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz You as an FSF supporter should especially understand what I mean. You disappoint me. | Jun 02 10:37 |
schestowitz | I did not disagree with this | Jun 02 10:38 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @fabsh I did not disagree with this | Jun 02 10:39 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @fabsh I actually agree on most things and to describe me as an FSF supporter is to assume I merely inherit my values from elsewhere. | Jun 02 10:41 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #ArchLinux Enables Mesa Floating Point Textures http://is.gd/rwzivd #linux | Jun 02 10:44 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] You Can Run #Ubuntu On Your HTC Desire HD http://is.gd/hevd4Q still, must pay #Microsoft to buy the phone. #swpats #extortion #htc | Jun 02 10:46 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Muwhahahahah! :D ♺ @opensourcegeek: showed @Ilka #minecraft last night, bwuhahahaha | Jun 02 10:48 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Darkness on the Edge of Town - one of the best songs in Rock'n'Roll history | Jun 02 10:49 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Mageia 1 Released http://is.gd/AnpBTh "100+ contributors [...] * 2 × 14.226 binary packages" ... #Mandriva out shortly http://is.gd/YLivHQ | Jun 02 10:54 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] EU #DNA database ruled out 'in the short term' - http://bit.ly/iiMApH we all know what *that* means (v @PoliceStateUK) #surveillance | Jun 02 10:54 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !Bitcoin Money rejected by !EFF - Why? http://ping.fm/nj4fw | Jun 02 10:54 | |
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schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/75155926 | Jun 02 10:56 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @Fabian Scherschel (fabsh)'s status on Thursday, 02-Jun-11 09:43:32 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz From all I've read from you, you always struck me in line with most things that come out of FSF. | Jun 02 10:56 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] #Oracle gives !OpenOffice to the !Apache Foundation -- should we care? http://ping.fm/pxfyG | Jun 02 10:59 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Tenn. passes Web entertainment theft bill - http://yhoo.it/lIB86G are there no limits to maximalists' desire to control our lives? | Jun 02 11:01 | |
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schestowitz | Habitual Linux basher -> http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/229187/30_days_withubuntu_linux.html | Jun 02 11:03 |
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schestowitz | Wait for him to FUD it | Jun 02 11:03 |
schestowitz | http://i.imgur.com/66eWa.jpg | Jun 02 11:04 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Hopefully the SKA will be built in WA - gives me a good reason to visit Perth. http://ur1.ca/4bto1 | Jun 02 11:08 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !WebOS could come to non-HP gadgets - CNET UK http://ping.fm/OiF47 | Jun 02 11:09 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Touche' [IMG] http://imgur.com/HZKni | Jun 02 11:09 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @patcito Google open sourcing voice and video engine for the web, p2p voip and video in Chrome and Firefox! http://ur1.ca/4bgxs #scre ... | Jun 02 11:09 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @silner: !Bitcoin Money rejected by !EFF - Why? http://ping.fm/nj4fw | Jun 02 11:11 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Pro-Mono ex-Microsofter to Torvalds et al.: here. Do it like I tell you. http://is.gd/KgQWq7 | Jun 02 11:11 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Shoddy Apple products" [IMG] http://i.imgur.com/Fwxkx.png | Jun 02 11:11 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Ditching #Copyleft to Compete with a Fork? http://is.gd/6AEk39 "I was disturbed today to read that Oracle will seek to relicense all OOo..." | Jun 02 11:14 | |
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DaemonFC | schestowitz: Ubuntu is alright, but it would be nicer if it had a browser with the hardware accelerated goodness of DirectX | Jun 02 11:16 |
DaemonFC | :P | Jun 02 11:16 |
DaemonFC | that's my guess | Jun 02 11:17 |
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DaemonFC | "I have been an avid, loyal Windows user since Windows 3.0" | Jun 02 11:18 |
DaemonFC | Is that with or without the multimedia extensions? | Jun 02 11:18 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] IBM: Move over, community. Thanks for all the hard work. We'll take it from here... | Jun 02 11:18 | |
DaemonFC | :) | Jun 02 11:18 |
DaemonFC | this Skyline movie isn't that great so far | Jun 02 11:19 |
DaemonFC | You look at the light and the human eating giant aliens control you | Jun 02 11:19 |
DaemonFC | so what does everyone keep doing? | Jun 02 11:19 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "I am a big advocate of Open Source and Open Standards. [..] But at home? Eh, not so much." http://is.gd/uyBblf So how does that work? x-| | Jun 02 11:21 | |
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oiaohm | DaemonFC: define under. | Jun 02 11:22 |
oiaohm | DaemonFC: Opps | Jun 02 11:22 |
schestowitz | I remember when FLOSS Weekly was a show from dibona and leo... big names | Jun 02 11:22 |
oiaohm | schestowitz: define under. Lot of computer controlled bus engines use a open standard. | Jun 02 11:23 |
schestowitz | now it's the guy from Linux Outlaws and guests I don't know http://twit.tv/floss168 | Jun 02 11:23 |
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oiaohm | schestowitz: so in one they are under a bus. | Jun 02 11:23 |
DaemonFC | "in the last year, I’ve purchased two iPads, a Macintosh, and two Kindles" | Jun 02 11:23 |
DaemonFC | glad he likes them | Jun 02 11:23 |
DaemonFC | glad it's his money being wasted | Jun 02 11:23 |
DaemonFC | glad its his music and books and movies that can be remotely deleted and may stop working at any time | Jun 02 11:24 |
schestowitz | oiaohm: he makes up drama | Jun 02 11:24 |
DaemonFC | glad he likes living in 2006 wrt OpenGL (Macs can't even use OpenGL 3, haha) | Jun 02 11:24 |
schestowitz | DaemonFC: he shows off consumerism | Jun 02 11:25 |
schestowitz | shopping list-speak :-) | Jun 02 11:25 |
schestowitz | "i've done her... and here... and those two at the same time" :-) | Jun 02 11:25 |
DaemonFC | schestowitz: Apple is technologically inferior even to Windows | Jun 02 11:25 |
DaemonFC | aside from the fact of being totally proprietary | Jun 02 11:25 |
schestowitz | Apple is a brand | Jun 02 11:25 |
schestowitz | it's not a proiduct | Jun 02 11:26 |
DaemonFC | err, you know what I mean, OS X | Jun 02 11:26 |
schestowitz | The products are inside an Apple-branded PC | Jun 02 11:26 |
DaemonFC | it's a joke | Jun 02 11:26 |
schestowitz | Intel chipsets, hard-drives from Korea/Singapore, whetever.. | Jun 02 11:26 |
DaemonFC | it's so bad, it's actually worse than Windows | Jun 02 11:26 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] I love it that a notice with "fucking" in it can reach Popular Notices on identica. People on Twitter would shit their pants.... :D | Jun 02 11:26 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @dickturpin: Big Ron (Wolves Lug) says he will transport at least 5 of us to !oggcamp other lifts TBA. The Wolves Massive is coming | Jun 02 11:26 | |
schestowitz | actually, I should dent it | Jun 02 11:26 |
DaemonFC | the only argument that they had for it was that there was no malware, but now we see that MAC DEFENDER and variants have no trouble at all getting on a Mac, without the administrator password, and can rely on Safari to download and execute the installer without asking the user | Jun 02 11:27 |
DaemonFC | what the hell kind of a web browser downloads and runs random executables from the internet? | Jun 02 11:28 |
schestowitz | Hehe | Jun 02 11:28 |
schestowitz | Not really | Jun 02 11:28 |
schestowitz | You need to put passwords in | Jun 02 11:28 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Apple/Mac is a brand, not a product. The products are contained within "Mac"- or "Apple"-branded PCs (motherboard, hard-drive/s, etc.) | Jun 02 11:28 | |
DaemonFC | even IE doesn't do THAT | Jun 02 11:28 |
schestowitz | The press overplayed that FUD | Jun 02 11:28 |
DaemonFC | Safari sounds like a malware writer's wet dream | Jun 02 11:29 |
DaemonFC | it just runs whatever it's asked to | Jun 02 11:29 |
DaemonFC | that's so incredibly stupid it had to be an Apple product | Jun 02 11:30 |
DaemonFC | schestowitz: I cringe whenever people compare KDE to OS X, first of all, it's not much like OS X's GUI at all, so I don't know where they got that | Jun 02 11:31 |
DaemonFC | and OS X would have to improve the GUI a lot to take on KDE | Jun 02 11:31 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Behind the scenes: a community workshop for Red Hatters http://is.gd/5cYnkH #redhat #gnu #linux | Jun 02 11:31 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Ubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) End of Life http://is.gd/3iUUPx the odd one with the "6" at the end (June) | Jun 02 11:31 | |
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DaemonFC | I don't think Ubuntu LTS releases make a proper desktop if what you're looking for is not having to upgrade that often | Jun 02 11:32 |
DaemonFC | you use RHEL or clones and get 7 years before you have to seriously consider upgrading | Jun 02 11:33 |
DaemonFC | you use an Ubuntu LTS and you get 3 | Jun 02 11:33 |
DaemonFC | I think "stable" software is for old ladies though, at least on my main system | Jun 02 11:34 |
DaemonFC | I look at it as "If this adds a bunch of major new features that I care about, I'll risk having a bug crop up now and then" | Jun 02 11:35 |
DaemonFC | Fedora is made out to be way more wicked than it is | Jun 02 11:35 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] After a Few Short Months, #Firefox 4 Is Mozilla's Leading Browser Version http://is.gd/E9D7qa #Linux 3 with Firefox 5 is on the horizon... | Jun 02 11:36 | |
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schestowitz | http://imgur.com/sSqvb | Jun 02 11:37 |
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DaemonFC | schestowitz: Lets all throw open standards under the bus and use software that the legal right to use can be taken away at any time, which spits out files that only it understands, that it uses to compel "upgrades" to new versions without any substantial improvements. | Jun 02 11:37 |
DaemonFC | Microsoft Office running on Windows? Mission accomplished? | Jun 02 11:38 |
DaemonFC | B-) | Jun 02 11:38 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] No comment needed [IMG] http://i.imgur.com/VhfsH.jpg | Jun 02 11:38 | |
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DaemonFC | schestowitz: One way I've noticed to make it so Windows users with MS Office can't corrupt the documents I've sent them. | Jun 02 11:39 |
DaemonFC | Send it as XHTML | Jun 02 11:39 |
DaemonFC | that way all they can do is open it in their web browser | Jun 02 11:39 |
DaemonFC | MS Office completely fails to parse it | Jun 02 11:40 |
DaemonFC | Tripping Balls is a medical diagnosis? | Jun 02 11:40 |
DaemonFC | I think I've suffered that before, but it was always acute, not chronic | Jun 02 11:41 |
DaemonFC | :) | Jun 02 11:41 |
DaemonFC | schestowitz: Uhhhm, no child molesters allowed is what I think the second one means. | Jun 02 11:42 |
schestowitz | You have lots of medical conditions | Jun 02 11:42 |
schestowitz | DaemonFC: duh | Jun 02 11:42 |
DaemonFC | If you go there to molest children, they can cite you for trespassing? | Jun 02 11:42 |
DaemonFC | hmmm | Jun 02 11:42 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] ars technica: #Microsoft gives the first official look of #Windows8 touch interface http://goo.gl/Qoov7 | Jun 02 11:43 | |
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DaemonFC | right now all the touchscreen systems end up shipping with OEM software to make Windows 7 more touchscreen-aware | Jun 02 11:44 |
DaemonFC | without that it works about as well as Vista voice recognition | Jun 02 11:44 |
schestowitz | gtg | Jun 02 11:47 |
MinceR | http://www.splitreason.com/product/1091 | Jun 02 11:50 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !Xubuntu 11.04 Review • by Jim Lynch http://ping.fm/sVavV | Jun 02 11:51 | |
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DaemonFC | MinceR? | Jun 02 11:52 |
DaemonFC | there was a point to that? | Jun 02 11:52 |
DaemonFC | :) | Jun 02 11:52 |
MinceR | i think it's funny | Jun 02 11:52 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @MeeGoExperts: Nook Color gets Hacked again – Now its MeeGo http://mge.bz/by #Nook #Color #MeeGo #Hack #Port #Android | Jun 02 11:54 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !Canonical Blog: Family Farm game in !Ubuntu http://goo.gl/lTXxU | Jun 02 12:03 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !OMG !Ubuntu reviewed the System76 Serval Pro: Is it the best Ubuntu laptop ever? http://goo.gl/JwchT | Jun 02 12:03 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] LibreOffice keeps boasting with all the doe they raised. Makes me kinda sceptical to read that stuff.... :/ | Jun 02 12:04 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @fabsh We can hope :) | Jun 02 12:06 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] libass needs to be updated again. ROFL | Jun 02 12:09 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] lol! "To mess up a Linux box, you need to work at it; to mess up your Windows box, you just need to work on it." - Scott Granneman | Jun 02 12:11 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Got about half way through the edit on LO 210. Now getting ready to head out for some swimming. | Jun 02 12:18 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] RT @patcito Google open sourcing voice and video engine for the web, p2p voip and video in Chrome and Firefox! http://ur1.ca/4bgxs #scre ... | Jun 02 12:29 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Script to speed up #mobile internet connexion in !Linux http://goo.gl/XQ0bl | Jun 02 12:58 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @linuxcanuck: Distribution Release: #Kororaa #Linux 14 http://distrowatch.com/6705 !fedora | Jun 02 13:01 | |
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DaemonFC | my bank offers Justin Bieber checks | Jun 02 13:03 |
*DaemonFC orders some for schestowitz | Jun 02 13:03 | |
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DaemonFC | http://phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?55127-KDE-Qt-amp-LightDM-Progress-Made | Jun 02 13:06 |
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DaemonFC | Actually, I saw Matthew Garrett's take on LightDM and wondered if he ever noticed the inconsistencies in KDM and GDM if you use one of them for other desktops | Jun 02 13:07 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @thp4: A little #Mong gameplay update, our #MeeGo Tablet pong game: http://youtu.be/7k2i9lFiWuY - menu, about, sound effects, packagin... | Jun 02 13:10 | |
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DaemonFC | While MinceR discounts the odd behavior of using KDE apps in GNOME or GTK+ apps in KDE, I find it maddening | Jun 02 13:10 |
DaemonFC | of course with the KDM/GDM mess that can start immediately, before there's even a user logged on | Jun 02 13:10 |
DaemonFC | how convenient :) | Jun 02 13:10 |
oiaohm | Really gtk apps skin better for kde than the reverse. | Jun 02 13:11 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @nizarus Ubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) Server release End of Life http://ur1.ca/4btrn !ubuntu | Jun 02 13:11 | |
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oiaohm | But it still a failure to make a common theme standard. | Jun 02 13:11 |
DaemonFC | there's been entirely too much of this "We're over in our world, you can go do whatever you like in yours" because sometimes no matter what environment you use, something made for the other is the best at that task | Jun 02 13:11 |
DaemonFC | so suddently you're using KDE but you have a GTK+ app following GNOME's hig, and the cancel and OK buttons are swapped | Jun 02 13:12 |
MinceR | and that's where QtCurve comes in :> | Jun 02 13:12 |
DaemonFC | and the file selector makes you double click | Jun 02 13:12 |
MinceR | as for GNOME's HIG, that just needs to die in a fire | Jun 02 13:12 |
DaemonFC | and takes Natuilus style key combos | Jun 02 13:12 |
DaemonFC | instead of KDE ones | Jun 02 13:12 |
MinceR | does the GNOME file selector require double click if Nautilus is set to single click? | Jun 02 13:12 |
oiaohm | Natuilus key map in gconf can be altered to a more KDE friendly one. | Jun 02 13:13 |
oiaohm | So effecting down stream apps. | Jun 02 13:13 |
DaemonFC | hmmm, I should probably try ticking something with gconf-editor | Jun 02 13:13 |
DaemonFC | that still doesn't mean the other points are invalid | Jun 02 13:13 |
DaemonFC | and a new user wouldn't know to download gconf-editor and how to tick that preference | Jun 02 13:13 |
oiaohm | Really the Hig suff some of that can be override by QtCurve | Jun 02 13:14 |
DaemonFC | I use oxygen-gtk | Jun 02 13:14 |
DaemonFC | Opera gave up trying to use either toolkit and made their own | Jun 02 13:15 |
DaemonFC | it works right no matter where you are using it | Jun 02 13:15 |
oiaohm | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QtCurve | Jun 02 13:15 |
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oiaohm | Most logactions of the HIG caused button order differences QTCurve cures. | Jun 02 13:16 |
oiaohm | Where themes like oxygen-gtk don't. | Jun 02 13:16 |
DaemonFC | why not? | Jun 02 13:16 |
oiaohm | QTCurve altered sections of the gtk engine. | Jun 02 13:16 |
oiaohm | Ie we cure it by mugging the engine. | Jun 02 13:16 |
DaemonFC | heh | Jun 02 13:18 |
DaemonFC | beat some sense into it | Jun 02 13:18 |
oiaohm | The Gtk3 release has been removed, as the Gtk theme API has changed! << this is a problem at the moment. | Jun 02 13:18 |
oiaohm | QTCurve has not caught up to GTK3 apps yet. | Jun 02 13:18 |
DaemonFC | Fedora no longer packages qtcurve for GTK | Jun 02 13:18 |
DaemonFC | well, they do but only i686? | Jun 02 13:19 |
DaemonFC | what's up with that? | Jun 02 13:19 |
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ender_33 | http://listserv.fnal.gov/scripts/wa.exe?A2=ind1106&L=scientific-linux-devel&T=0&P=74 | Jun 02 13:21 |
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ender_33 | SL 6.1 Alpha | Jun 02 13:21 |
ender_33 | where is centos 6.0 | Jun 02 13:21 |
ender_33 | lol | Jun 02 13:21 |
DaemonFC | ender_33: They're still biting people's heads off in their forum for asking that I suppose | Jun 02 13:21 |
ender_33 | hehe | Jun 02 13:22 |
DaemonFC | when we SAY it's ready! | Jun 02 13:22 |
DaemonFC | This ain't no god damn democracah!!!!! | Jun 02 13:23 |
DaemonFC | :P | Jun 02 13:23 |
ender_33 | when asked if the redhat kernel policy change will effect them they replied "no, we hardly do updates anyways" | Jun 02 13:23 |
DaemonFC | And.....We're NOT here to tell you how to build it yourself, so gfy | Jun 02 13:23 |
DaemonFC | B-) | Jun 02 13:23 |
oiaohm | ender_33: also redhat is not like Ubuntu. A stock kernel off kernel.org works on redhat. | Jun 02 13:24 |
DaemonFC | anyone still using CentOS is fucked in the head | Jun 02 13:24 |
ender_33 | oiaohm - yes | Jun 02 13:24 |
oiaohm | ender_33: so if redhat does not tell you there secret mix of patches its not the end of world. | Jun 02 13:24 |
ender_33 | oiaohm - I never said it was, the code is there | Jun 02 13:24 |
DaemonFC | oiaohm: You have to apply 5 patches to it for AppArmor to work in Ubuntu, and 1 patch for trace points for ureadahead | Jun 02 13:24 |
ender_33 | :) | Jun 02 13:24 |
oiaohm | DaemonFC: exactly. | Jun 02 13:25 |
DaemonFC | a kernel.org kernel will work fine on Fedora with no patches applied | Jun 02 13:25 |
ender_33 | im not one of those people who adds a working cvs/svn/git/whatever as a requirement to an open source license | Jun 02 13:25 |
oiaohm | DaemonFC: redhat SL centos debian arch. Ok most major distributions will run with stock. | Jun 02 13:25 |
oiaohm | Only two major exceptions. | Jun 02 13:25 |
oiaohm | Ubuntu and Android | Jun 02 13:25 |
DaemonFC | building a kernel for Ubuntu is a pain in the ass because eventually one of those files will get changed and you have to go digging around for a new patch | Jun 02 13:26 |
DaemonFC | yeah, Debian runs without any patching | Jun 02 13:26 |
oiaohm | But android is getting closer to main line Linux kernel that Ubuntu is. | Jun 02 13:26 |
DaemonFC | technically Ubuntu will | Jun 02 13:26 |
ender_33 | ubuntu is terribad | Jun 02 13:26 |
DaemonFC | if you don't mind the ureadahead daemon crashing | Jun 02 13:26 |
DaemonFC | and AppArmor not working | Jun 02 13:26 |
ender_33 | Slackware is very good for doing your own thing too | Jun 02 13:27 |
oiaohm | DaemonFC: and the other many other strange events caused by those not working. | Jun 02 13:27 |
DaemonFC | OpenSuse and Mandriva both work fine with vanilla kernel | Jun 02 13:27 |
ender_33 | http://distrowatch.com/?newsid=06709 | Jun 02 13:27 |
DaemonFC | I assume that means Mageia would too | Jun 02 13:27 |
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ender_33 | speaking of opensuse | Jun 02 13:27 |
ender_33 | since NOBODY mentions it in the news anymore (Source: Roy) | Jun 02 13:27 |
DaemonFC | are there any distributions other than Ubuntu that need kernel patches just to work right? | Jun 02 13:28 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] So how long is Amamzon now selling DRM-free MP3s? That are not traceable to the costumer? And did it kill the music industry? | Jun 02 13:28 | |
ender_33 | DaemonFC - ubuntu clones | Jun 02 13:28 |
DaemonFC | ender_33: I think schestowitz just wants to speak that into existence. (The OpenSuse is dying part) | Jun 02 13:28 |
DaemonFC | it's not | Jun 02 13:28 |
ender_33 | I know it's not | Jun 02 13:28 |
oiaohm | DaemonFC: android still at this stage requires custom patches. But you would call it a highly custom distribution. | Jun 02 13:29 |
DaemonFC | Android is Google OS | Jun 02 13:29 |
DaemonFC | it's not really even what you'd consider a Linux system | Jun 02 13:29 |
DaemonFC | the userland is all Google | Jun 02 13:30 |
DaemonFC | and the kernel is patched to death | Jun 02 13:30 |
oiaohm | Really Google is putting more time into working better with upstream and playing by upstream rules than Ubuntu is. | Jun 02 13:30 |
DaemonFC | not surprising | Jun 02 13:30 |
DaemonFC | Ubuntu is really ghetto | Jun 02 13:30 |
oiaohm | Over time lot of the patches have been disappearing out of the android kernel as Linux kernel gets equal functionallity done other ways. | Jun 02 13:30 |
ender_33 | I discovered another example of doublespeak | Jun 02 13:31 |
oiaohm | Yes Google has rewriten sections of their userland to line up with mainline Linux kernel. | Jun 02 13:31 |
ender_33 | "unity" | Jun 02 13:31 |
DaemonFC | ender_33: You mean you don't use Hilarity | Jun 02 13:31 |
DaemonFC | I mean, Unity? | Jun 02 13:31 |
DaemonFC | :) | Jun 02 13:31 |
oiaohm | Most of the Android patches were features Linux kernel has had not match to. | Jun 02 13:31 |
ender_33 | Fragmentity? | Jun 02 13:31 |
DaemonFC | Depravity | Jun 02 13:32 |
DaemonFC | Stupidity | Jun 02 13:32 |
ender_33 | Spunity | Jun 02 13:32 |
oiaohm | Ubuntu is still pushing the idea that copyright assignment is OK. | Jun 02 13:32 |
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oiaohm | The very trigger of the Libreoffice was copyright assignment. | Jun 02 13:32 |
DaemonFC | nobody cares enough about Depravity to fork it | Jun 02 13:33 |
ender_33 | http://youtu.be/iA9zaBZysfI | Jun 02 13:33 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[firefoxmilestones/@firefoxmilestones] #Firefox4 reached 194 million downloads on 2011-06-02 12:27 UTC | Jun 02 13:34 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Microsoft unveils touch-oriented Windows 8 (InfoWorld): http://bit.ly/iE8KE6 | Jun 02 13:43 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] RT @eebrah: RD: @bigbrovar: skype-open-source: Skype protocol reverse engineered, source available... http://t.co/S0qfhNj via @m48813 | Jun 02 13:43 | |
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ender_33 | mageia came out too | Jun 02 13:44 |
oiaohm | That skype source is not touchable. | Jun 02 13:48 |
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oiaohm | The person has disreguarded basic ideas of reversing. | Jun 02 13:49 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Skype offers interface for running Skype clients on devices (Skype): http://bit.ly/lHcv8H | Jun 02 13:51 | |
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MinceR | reversing? | Jun 02 13:54 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] Making of the Hobbit - on set http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nQq1NsVZLQ&feature=related | Jun 02 13:58 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] It's raining | Jun 02 14:06 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Socrates, social media and the new dialectic http://red.ht/iPlTC2 #healthcare #HCSMgate #openstandards | Jun 02 14:06 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gnufreex/@gnufreex] Thos who cheared for Mubarak to leave Egypt. You might want to check the news now. 2tu.us/3cq5 2tu.us/3cq6 Copts are persecuted more now. | Jun 02 14:08 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #UN Human Right Council told UK’s #DEAct is “alarming” violation of #HumanRights - http://bit.ly/jzVJM8 pretty shameful, huh? | Jun 02 14:11 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] 3D model for reproducing house-keys - http://bit.ly/k7BZ5G cue moral panic about #3dprinting | Jun 02 14:11 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gnufreex/@gnufreex] Egypt’s Christians Fear Violence as Changes Embolden Islamists http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/31/world/middleeast/31coptic.html?_r=1 | Jun 02 14:11 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #YouTube pushes for strong European content with €20k grants - http://tnw.co/j5IyMJ smart move: bypass the film studios | Jun 02 14:13 | |
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ender_33 | oiaohm - Remember yesterday regarding scientific linux? | Jun 02 14:14 |
ender_33 | it turns out I was right and SL 6.1 will be out soon | Jun 02 14:14 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] Just tried to print the Satipatthana Sutta and got twelve blank pages; is Nagarjuna a Firefox developer? #buddhism http://bit.ly/lMaZLr | Jun 02 14:16 | |
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oiaohm | ender_33: and I had been following the updates and comparing to what is in 6.0 updated to redhat 6.1 | Jun 02 14:17 |
oiaohm | ender_33: And I trully don't see much difference. | Jun 02 14:17 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] lol! "Q. Where did the names “C” and “C++” come from? A. They were grades." - Jerry Leichter | Jun 02 14:21 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Researcher reverse-engineers #Skype, makes code available publicly - http://tnw.co/jiZc6z wonder how #Microsoft will respond to that? | Jun 02 14:21 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] #Outbackzack 's Legal Beagle hasn't responded yet. I've been doing some additional research on him and his client... | Jun 02 14:21 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] RT @alexhundert: Toronto police G20 probe a ‘cat and mouse’ game, lawyer warns - The Globe and Mail: http://t.co/xXeGpnf #g20report | Jun 02 14:21 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] Linux's 'Killer Feature': Impossible to Choose Just One http://bit.ly/jB2OKp #linux | Jun 02 14:28 | |
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ender_33 | updates | Jun 02 14:31 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Sprint to release Tegra 2 on June 9? (Engadget): http://engt.co/jIQCqZ | Jun 02 14:36 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] Why Play Matters More than Ever http://bit.ly/lOFDHa #gamification | Jun 02 14:40 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] The end of the #Linux desktop wars http://www.itworld.com/mobile-wireless/170155/end-linux-desktop-wars | Jun 02 14:58 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] Asus to ship Ubuntu netbooks http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/367768/asus-to-ship-ubuntu-netbooks #linux | Jun 02 14:59 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] Arguments Over the Future of OpenOffice.org http://bit.ly/m7oi7e | Jun 02 15:06 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] When The Going Gets Tough, Call On Open Source http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/74514 #opensource | Jun 02 15:06 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] First openSUSE 12.1 milestone arrives http://bit.ly/jBPFdD | Jun 02 15:09 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Apparently was adaptation of Billy #Crystal standup routine but can't find any video online. #disappointing | Jun 02 15:11 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] @zotz: thanks, I've passed them on | Jun 02 15:14 | |
schestowitz | Arghh... advice of the day. If sugar bag gets wet at the kitchen, treat it like a bio-hazard, don't try to salvage ANY of it becuase it's sticky business that spreads like a used diaper | Jun 02 15:16 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Good morning !Identiverse | Jun 02 15:18 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] After reading about Anne Muir I can't really think of it as a "good" morning anymore http://ur1.ca/4buts (via @Crosbie) | Jun 02 15:18 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @zotz @crosbie And what will happen when the penalties for shoplifting are less than those for sharing? | Jun 02 15:18 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @crosbie Prepare for torture & execution as penalties for #copyright infringement. Only then will people call for abolition. http://b ... | Jun 02 15:18 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #Androinica: Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 confirmed for June 8: $499-$599 http://goo.gl/3tuuO !android | Jun 02 15:21 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Odd that #Microsoft markets the new #Vista7 (aka "8") as device-/touch-aware when it was the same bogus 'selling point' of "7" | Jun 02 15:21 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] By integrating fotos directly, twitter tells its ecosystem that they can start looking for better opportunities. | Jun 02 15:21 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Bonus points to Microsoft proponents who can name /one/ *compelling* feature in Windows since XP. Aero is just lipstick on a pig, UAC is bad | Jun 02 15:23 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] That would be nice [IMG] http://is.gd/PRyQlG | Jun 02 15:23 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @N900: RT @Travellwebs: Wlan Driver Selector Applet - Switch easily between stock and bleeding edge drivers http://bit.ly/lp7IO2 #N900... | Jun 02 15:26 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Real Legacy of the #Hargreaves Report? - http://bit.ly/lpMYgn not what you might think #economics #lobbying #copyright | Jun 02 15:29 | |
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schestowitz | Today a the sauna the Daily Express was put down | Jun 02 15:34 |
schestowitz | Left behind | Jun 02 15:34 |
schestowitz | Which is fun because I like to show people how the paper is contructed | Jun 02 15:34 |
schestowitz | And I always righytly predict what will go where | Jun 02 15:34 |
schestowitz | Including ad placements | Jun 02 15:34 |
schestowitz | Same formula each day, indoctrinating the masses | Jun 02 15:35 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] 5 Reasons why #opensource will shake the #CMS establishment - http://tnw.co/myMZz4 short but sweet | Jun 02 15:36 | |
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schestowitz | DO you guys teach other people to be sceptical of public/private newspapers | Jun 02 15:38 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] ‘Torrent’ Becomes A Dirty Word As Site Admin Fined $29,000 - http://bit.ly/lHZW2u "destabilization of the economy of artistic creation” | Jun 02 15:41 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] I'm enjoying "The Very Best of Slade" DVD ATM #fun #tolerance #nostalgia | Jun 02 15:41 | |
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Will2 | testing | Jun 02 15:42 |
Will2 | @schestowitz: So Microsoft has demonstrated Windows 8. Sounds like it's basically WIndows Phone 7 on a PC. More worrisome is the noise about MS trying to exert greater influence over how hardware makers design their machines. | Jun 02 15:43 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Two Open Source Ideologies That Are Just Wrong - http://bit.ly/lfyMKH more interesting thoughts on the #apache/#OpenOffice move | Jun 02 15:45 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laforge/@laforge] *lol* a law firm with 'innocent' in their name: http://www.fsilaw.com/ - nomen est omen. | Jun 02 15:45 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Just received this mail: " @BobSutor deleting my comments on his blog. I am telling him many are trying to unite LO and OOo communities." | Jun 02 15:45 | |
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Will2 | @schestowitz: Some of it is innocent enough. They want to ensure a minimum screen resolution. They want attention to be paid to screen edges and bevels to make using the touchscreen features easier. | Jun 02 15:46 |
Will2 | @schestowitz: Nothing in that is harmful to Linux. But, well, this is Microsoft, and they have a decades-long track record. I have a magic 8 ball wearing a tin-foil hat that predicts the possibility of nteresting times ahead for kernel devs. | Jun 02 15:47 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Dr. @BobSutor was also deleting my comments which politely addressed IBM's #swpats situation | Jun 02 15:48 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @kletskous Three arrested, accused of "illegally feeding homeless" at Lake Eola #huh? #policestate #usa #foodnotbombs via @anonymous | Jun 02 15:48 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] RD @cwebber #GNU #MediaGoblin 0.0.2 Released: We can haz pages http://ur1.ca/4but9 | Jun 02 15:50 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fedora/@fedora] Are you interested in encrypting your btrfs file system? Check out this tutorial: http://2tu.us/3cqd | Jun 02 15:50 | |
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MinceR | i hope the hw makers will tell m$ to go design their own hw instead of sticking their nose into it | Jun 02 15:50 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #IBM is becoming extremely arrogant again. Don't take its friendship w/ FOSS w/o a grain of salt. http://is.gd/EUjWc2 http://is.gd/HGORdb | Jun 02 15:51 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] It is most likely that #IBM wants copyrights of OOo at #Apache in order to Apachify code and reinforce Symphony's status as proprietary S/W. | Jun 02 15:51 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] What I learned today: treat wet sugar bag like a bio-hazard, don't try to salvage any because it's sticky business that spreads endlessly. | Jun 02 15:56 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] RT @matux @openattitude And the winner of the !Linux desktop wars is... HTML 5? | ITworld http://ur1.ca/4buqw ||@bazza vos no querias ha ... | Jun 02 15:56 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Gotta love those who think that Republicans beat Democrats beat Republicans beat Democrats is "Change". | Jun 02 15:56 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] To assume that dethroning Microsoft & elevating Apple/IBM/Oracle is somehow a "solution" is to adhere to fantasies from the corporate media | Jun 02 15:58 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Windows 8 Tablet OS Is Just Windows 7 With a New Skin (Wired): http://bit.ly/mu0wF5 | Jun 02 15:58 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The real competition is the battle of philosophies, not the battles between separate teams playing by same rule, swapping the same staff. | Jun 02 16:00 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "So Microsoft has demonstrated Windows 8. Sounds like it's basically Windows Phone 7 on a PC. " ~Will at !techrights | Jun 02 16:01 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Windows 8 Tablet OS Is Just Windows 7 With a New Skin (Wired): http://bit.ly/mu0wF5 yes, well... and Windows 7 is just Mojave/Vista | Jun 02 16:03 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Vista is Edsel. http://is.gd/c8Pj8b Windows "7" is Edsel with a 5th wheel. "8" has a 6th wheel. Innovation? | Jun 02 16:10 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] MysqlPasswordAuditor 1.0 released, recover lost MySQL passwords : http://securityxploded.com/mysql-password-auditor.php | Jun 02 16:25 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] Design Jam Oxford #1: Time To Wrap-Up A Fast & Furious Jam Session http://mozillalabs.com/conceptseries/2011/06/02/design-jam-oxford-1-time- | Jun 02 16:25 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] Reading large conversations here in context brings my poor system to a grinding halt. | Jun 02 16:28 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] Three Web Performance Drafts Published: Visibility, Timing Control for Script-Based Animations, Navigation Timin http://ow.ly/1d0Ibv | Jun 02 16:36 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] Battery Status Event Specification Updated http://ow.ly/1d0Ibu | Jun 02 16:36 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #xkcd as educator - one for the bookmarks now that we have a lively discussion on the topic http://xkcd.com/radiation/ | Jun 02 16:38 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Back from a swim. That was nice. :) | Jun 02 16:45 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] U.K. government drops plan to build private cloud, citing high start-up costs (IT Pro): http://bit.ly/mBzwnX | Jun 02 16:45 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] Opgedragen aan @EricVerberne en @MarnixAmsterdam http://ur1.ca/4bv7s yum! | Jun 02 16:46 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @vinzv: 150 dents in der letzten Woche? Da geht noch was... | Jun 02 16:50 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Advertising Discovery http://xkcd.com/906/ #xkcd #humor #wikipedia | Jun 02 16:50 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Being flooded with notices telling me all the bugs I filed in F13 will now never get fixed. Sad really..... !Fedora | Jun 02 16:53 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] question: why does twitter.com crash in a chromium tab? I'm using fedora 15 64-bit. need to file bugzilla. | Jun 02 17:00 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] @fabsh IIRC, RMS thinks Free Software does not need copyright. | Jun 02 17:03 | |
asdfas2wefw | TRIdentica: the GPL depends on strong copyright | Jun 02 17:04 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @zotz Does he? I doubt that. In any case, I'm specifically talking copyleft here. I don't believe in non-copyleft F/OSS much. | Jun 02 17:06 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] @fabsh I am talking copyleft too. iirc, he thinks that software should not be copyrightable. ie. no copyright protection for any software. | Jun 02 17:10 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] @fabsh iirc, the copyleft gpl is his attempt to bring that state about without needing to fight the battle to get the law changed. | Jun 02 17:10 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @zotz Once again: Explain to me how we assure FaiFness without copyright? | Jun 02 17:13 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Ich ess dann ma ne Prinzenrolle. Da sind ja keinen Gurken, Tomaten oder Gammelfleisch drin. Wegen #ehec und so ;-) | Jun 02 17:13 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] My sincere apologies to @BobSutor whom my source accused of censoring when in fact Bob was away from the Net (too long for moderation) | Jun 02 17:16 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] You may have heard... YouTube launches support for CC BY and a CC library featuring 10,000 videos! http://bit.ly/jqUFDj | Jun 02 17:25 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Someone suggested Windows 8 features as an LXnews topic? Oo | Jun 02 17:25 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Bereits 1997 hatten Kernkraftbetreiber Rückstellungen im Gesamtwert von 59,8 Mrd DM für Endlagerung etc. #Ichsagjanur http://ur1.ca/4bvf8 | Jun 02 17:25 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @vinzv: RT @jospoortvliet congrats to @mageia !linux for the first release!!! | Jun 02 17:28 | |
arianit | Hi, I'm trying to understand OOo relicensing. Kohn states:"Oracle is relicensing to undermine a successful Free Software project that relies on its copyrighted code." -- what does this mean, how can copyrighted code be used against LibreOffice and why this risk gets less as more code is added, as he claims later. | Jun 02 17:35 |
arianit | Correction, name of the author is Kuhn. | Jun 02 17:36 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Nokia Stuck in Limbo Waiting for Windows 7 Phones http://is.gd/BTn3VJ #Microsoft & #Elop the mole put all benefits @MSFT , all risk @Nokia | Jun 02 17:36 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Remember what the bankers did prior to 2008: they put all the risk at the public's hand, took all the massive (trillions?) benefits/bonuses | Jun 02 17:36 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] http://coffee.jezra.net/coffee/20110602 #sip_and_click | Jun 02 17:36 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Californian dolphin gang caught killing porpoises - http://bit.ly/mO7Tu3 sobering stuff #ethology #testosterone | Jun 02 17:38 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Julian Assange scoops top journalism prize - http://tnw.co/j7b2Oj remember him? #secrecy #wikileaks | Jun 02 17:38 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Bodhi 1.1.0 Screenshots http://is.gd/0mcY68 derivative of #Ubuntu - what's with the name though? Buddha? | Jun 02 17:40 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Spannend. Finnland. #Websperre http://www.edri.org/edrigram/number9.11/blocking-case-finland-court cc @netzpolitik @alvar_f | Jun 02 17:40 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Finland piut w3.org on their secret blacklist? I mean, serious?!? http://ur1.ca/4bvi9 cc @glynmoody | Jun 02 17:41 | |
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arianit | schestowitz, I'm trying to understand OOo relicensing. Kuhn states:"Oracle is re-licensing to undermine a successful Free Software project that relies on its copyrighted code." -- what does this mean, how can copyrighted code be used against LibreOffice and why this risk gets less as more code is added, as he claims later? | Jun 02 17:43 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Why #YouTube Adopting Creative Commons Is a Big Deal - http://bit.ly/mPAyY1 because they're using cc-by (which I'd missed before) #cc | Jun 02 17:43 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] PiTiVi #opensource #video editor brings new effects - http://bit.ly/jbr5Ld new to me: anyone use it? | Jun 02 17:45 | |
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ender_33 | pitivi is awesome | Jun 02 17:46 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] 6 Factors Behind the Mobile Photo #Sharing Boom - http://on.mash.to/jIbmDW missed the most important: people love to share | Jun 02 17:46 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] note to self: follow @lostnbronx's suggestion and sing "Oh Canada" whenever filling up the Canada coffee cup | Jun 02 17:48 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Finland: Blocking of domestic websites ruled illegal - http://bit.ly/iLXOMO interesting ruling (v @jwildeboer) | Jun 02 17:51 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Atomwende soll 22 Mrd € kosten. Bei knapp 27 Mrd € Rückstellungen bleiben dann ja 5 Mrd € für erneuerbare Energie und Steuerzahler zahlt nix | Jun 02 17:53 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Github Has Surpassed #Sourceforge and Google Code in Popularity - http://rww.to/kMer5f #Linus triumphs again | Jun 02 17:53 | |
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schestowitz | [17:36] <arianit> Correction, name of the author is Kuhn. | Jun 02 17:55 |
schestowitz | Tey want apache licence | Jun 02 17:55 |
schestowitz | So that IBM does not need to give changes back | Jun 02 17:55 |
schestowitz | It's more like BSD style | Jun 02 17:55 |
schestowitz | Right now it's LGPL mostly (v3), in current version | Jun 02 17:55 |
schestowitz | If they can move it to Apache licence, then Symphony will have an easier time stomping on OOo while not giving back the changes | Jun 02 17:56 |
schestowitz | Thus copyleft gets screwed | Jun 02 17:56 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @glynmoody: #Github Has Surpassed #Sourceforge and Google Code in Popularity - http://rww.to/kMer5f #Linus triumphs again | Jun 02 17:56 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Subjective experience & the law: should fMRI evidence of high punishment tolerance affect sentencing? - http://bit.ly/lnqFhm don't go there | Jun 02 17:56 | |
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schestowitz | But we don't know IBM's intentions for sure, not yet anyway | Jun 02 17:56 |
schestowitz | Symphony was always a hack around "Open Source" | Jun 02 17:56 |
schestowitz | Lotus in general is as proprietary (but standards-compliant) as can be | Jun 02 17:57 |
arianit | what about copyrights though, how do those play out | Jun 02 17:57 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kernellog2/@kernellog2] Hardware and "3.0" difficulties http://h-online.com/-1254308 #linux #kernel #inbrief #uefi #reboot #stable #lkml #amd #driver | Jun 02 17:58 | |
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arianit | and how come only IBM was able to get this deal from SUN/Oracle | Jun 02 17:58 |
arianit | schestowitz, | Jun 02 17:59 |
gnufreex | Oracle will destroy OpenOffice, there will be 100 of incompatable forks | Jun 02 18:00 |
gnufreex | Most proprietary. | Jun 02 18:00 |
gnufreex | Everybody will try to make easy money | Jun 02 18:00 |
gnufreex | Since it is only office suite to compete with MSFT | Jun 02 18:00 |
gnufreex | And MSFT can easier sue against Apache license | Jun 02 18:01 |
gnufreex | Since there are no libery or death claue | Jun 02 18:01 |
gnufreex | clause | Jun 02 18:01 |
gnufreex | So paying royalties is legit | Jun 02 18:01 |
gnufreex | So there will be some MSFT drones that will pay royalty for MSFT for distributing OpenOffice. | Jun 02 18:02 |
gnufreex | *to MSFT | Jun 02 18:02 |
schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/75184694 | Jun 02 18:03 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @Billy (seeds)'s status on Thursday, 02-Jun-11 16:37:09 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz bodhisattva :) | Jun 02 18:03 |
gnufreex | Also, Most Apache projects are raw material for geeks | Jun 02 18:03 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The Skype Protocol Was Reverse-Engineered http://is.gd/YnToGI will Ballmer and the patent bullies weld an axe? We shall see... SIP bridge? | Jun 02 18:03 | |
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gnufreex | They don't make consumer stuff | Jun 02 18:03 |
gnufreex | They wont bother to polish OOo | Jun 02 18:03 |
gnufreex | They will just make good raw material that proprietary companies will use to base thier proprietary product | Jun 02 18:04 |
gnufreex | Apache does that for years. | Jun 02 18:04 |
gnufreex | That is how they work | Jun 02 18:04 |
gnufreex | Out of 100 projects, most are not usable right away. | Jun 02 18:05 |
gnufreex | In fact, only HTTPD and handful of others are really usable | Jun 02 18:05 |
gnufreex | Others are just alternatives to GPL'd solutions. | Jun 02 18:06 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #IBM cross-licenses #swpats with Microsoft. It can now make a proprietary OOo (Symphony) *legally* and be the 'safe' OOo version. | Jun 02 18:06 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] @fabsh I am not making that arguement, just giving a data point. getting rid of copyright but leaving patents will not help except less time | Jun 02 18:06 | |
schestowitz | Just got this: | Jun 02 18:07 |
schestowitz | > Is this true Roy?: | Jun 02 18:07 |
schestowitz | > | Jun 02 18:07 |
schestowitz | > "This means IBM and any other Apache OpenOffice.org project member can | Jun 02 18:07 |
schestowitz | > innovate the heck out the source code and not be obligated to give back | Jun 02 18:07 |
schestowitz | > to the mainline OpenOffice.org code, since the ASL is a non-copyleft | Jun 02 18:07 |
schestowitz | > license. IBM and other OpenOffice.org contributors will also be able to | Jun 02 18:07 |
schestowitz | > re-license OpenOffice.org code under any license they want, including a | Jun 02 18:07 |
schestowitz | > proprietary license, should they wish." | Jun 02 18:07 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] 40% chance of rain is a 60% chance of a nice motorcycle ride to work. | Jun 02 18:08 | |
gnufreex | schestowitz: did you say "yes" ? :-) | Jun 02 18:08 |
gnufreex | Because that is correct answer | Jun 02 18:08 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] YouTube encourages creators by adding built-in Creative Commons licensing option. https://eff.org/r.26c | Jun 02 18:10 | |
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ender_33 | msb_ whats up | Jun 02 18:10 |
ender_33 | msb_ you rang? | Jun 02 18:10 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] RT @eff YouTube encourages creators by adding built-in Creative Commons licensing option. https://eff.org/r.26c | Jun 02 18:11 | |
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msb_ | Hello Brandon. | Jun 02 18:12 |
schestowitz | gnufreex: yes | Jun 02 18:13 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Made some more progress on !LO. Now off to a BBQ party. | Jun 02 18:13 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Guy parked like a jackass. We taught him a lesson he will remember. http://imgur.com/9qFLq whoa. Forgot to write posts today... distracted. | Jun 02 18:13 | |
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schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/75186484 | Jun 02 18:14 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @agentsmith's status on Thursday, 02-Jun-11 17:02:08 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Well, very welcomed move. Now, we Linuxers can talk with msn, skype, Gtalk, etc... | Jun 02 18:14 |
schestowitz | Doesn't gaim handle MSN? | Jun 02 18:14 |
schestowitz | Pidgin.. | Jun 02 18:14 |
schestowitz | the sun is finally back to manchester | Jun 02 18:16 |
schestowitz | After many weeks | Jun 02 18:16 |
schestowitz | http://news.bbc.co.uk/weather/forecast/9 | Jun 02 18:16 |
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schestowitz | gnufreex: about the war criminal | Jun 02 18:17 |
schestowitz | There was a paper lying around today | Jun 02 18:17 |
schestowitz | Not that I trust it | Jun 02 18:17 |
schestowitz | I think Murdoch owned | Jun 02 18:17 |
schestowitz | Is there any "other side" to it? | Jun 02 18:17 |
gnufreex | schestowitz: West don't let other side speak at all. | Jun 02 18:17 |
schestowitz | LOL http://tinyogg.com/watch/KfK27/ | Jun 02 18:17 |
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schestowitz | gnufreex: but does he have a defence? | Jun 02 18:18 |
schestowitz | I read his family says he's unfit to testify | Jun 02 18:18 |
schestowitz | But Hague folks says he was extremely cooperative | Jun 02 18:18 |
schestowitz | And thet he ordered genocide | Jun 02 18:18 |
schestowitz | Don't know why and who started what or any context | Jun 02 18:18 |
gnufreex | I will give one article about bosnian war, read it when you have time | Jun 02 18:18 |
schestowitz | The West does not like to give too much context | Jun 02 18:18 |
schestowitz | gnufreex: thanks | Jun 02 18:19 |
gnufreex | It will blow your mind, just wait till I find it. | Jun 02 18:19 |
gnufreex | Here it is http://www.hirhome.com/yugo/ihralija1.htm schestowitz | Jun 02 18:20 |
schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/75187368 | Jun 02 18:20 |
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TechrightsBot-tr | @agentsmith's status on Thursday, 02-Jun-11 17:14:44 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Yes, Pidgin, Mess, Kopete, the point is: Yes, WE CAN talk and text in those closed proprietary networks. Now, even in skype. | Jun 02 18:20 |
schestowitz | gnufreex: is it politically charged? | Jun 02 18:20 |
gnufreex | schestowitz: It is writen by the Jew who was disgusted to see what happened to Serbia. And he is a little pro Serb | Jun 02 18:21 |
schestowitz | http://www.google.com/search?hl=&q=Francisco+Gil-White&sourceid=navclient-ff&rlz=1B5GGGL_enGB315GB316&ie=UTF-8 | Jun 02 18:21 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Choose Ubuntu (new video, not an endorsement) http://is.gd/z98i1K !playogg | Jun 02 18:21 | |
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schestowitz | http://genocideinbosnia.blogspot.com/2005/07/rebuttal-of-francisco-gil-whites-gross.html | Jun 02 18:22 |
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schestowitz | he seems to have opponents | Jun 02 18:22 |
schestowitz | And this.. http://emperor.vwh.net/icdsm/ | Jun 02 18:22 |
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schestowitz | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francisco_Gil-White | Jun 02 18:22 |
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ender_33 | msb_ gotta use my handle or I won't see it | Jun 02 18:23 |
schestowitz | He's a political writer | Jun 02 18:23 |
schestowitz | How can one trust it? | Jun 02 18:24 |
msb_ | Jared Israel is a zionist. -- nasty | Jun 02 18:24 |
schestowitz | He does seem to provoke | Jun 02 18:24 |
ender_33 | schestowitz - sounds like a wanker | Jun 02 18:24 |
schestowitz | "Francisco Gil-White (born July 1969) is an anthropologist who was Assistant Professor of Psychology at the University of Pennsylvania from 2001 to 2006 and lecturer at the Solomon Asch Centre for Study of Ethnopolitical Conflict." | Jun 02 18:24 |
schestowitz | Where is he now? | Jun 02 18:24 |
ender_33 | msb_ What about Jacob Frank? | Jun 02 18:25 |
msb_ | ender_33: Never heard of Jacob Frank. | Jun 02 18:25 |
ender_33 | leader of Frankism | Jun 02 18:25 |
schestowitz | That's his personal site http://www.hirhome.com/ | Jun 02 18:25 |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: :: HiR Historical and Investigative Research :: .::. Size~: 123.94 KB | Jun 02 18:25 |
schestowitz | So the summary is one man's opinion | Jun 02 18:26 |
schestowitz | Oh, and he plays a role in the climate science now? | Jun 02 18:26 |
schestowitz | Wait | Jun 02 18:26 |
schestowitz | What's his research again? | Jun 02 18:26 |
schestowitz | Politics? | Jun 02 18:26 |
schestowitz | Climate? | Jun 02 18:26 |
gnufreex | schestowitz: Thing is, west is aware that they did wrong to Serbian interests with meddling it the war, and instead of corecting that, they try to justify it by inventing war crimes and teling that to people. They don't want to admit. | Jun 02 18:26 |
schestowitz | he's not a scientist | Jun 02 18:26 |
schestowitz | And I'm not sure he still works in academia | Jun 02 18:26 |
ender_33 | He holds a Masters Degree in Social Sciences from the University of Chicago and a PhD in Biological and Cultural Anthropology from UCLA. | Jun 02 18:27 |
schestowitz | That's not a science | Jun 02 18:27 |
schestowitz | Not an exact science | Jun 02 18:27 |
gnufreex | schestowitz: What I know about the war says that he is right. | Jun 02 18:27 |
ender_33 | I get it | Jun 02 18:27 |
schestowitz | Social science is like "nuclear homoeopathy" | Jun 02 18:27 |
gnufreex | I read that article recently | Jun 02 18:27 |
ender_33 | That's why people say ALL SCIENTISTS AGREE: Climate Change is real | Jun 02 18:27 |
ender_33 | because if you disagree, you are discredited | Jun 02 18:27 |
schestowitz | They have the tools to check | Jun 02 18:28 |
gnufreex | That article didn't take part in forming my opinion | Jun 02 18:28 |
schestowitz | Data, method, knowledge.. | Jun 02 18:28 |
schestowitz | Others politicise it | Jun 02 18:28 |
schestowitz | Against papers and politicians | Jun 02 18:28 |
schestowitz | I'm trying to find out if he was disgraced from academia | Jun 02 18:28 |
schestowitz | Front page: " | Jun 02 18:28 |
schestowitz | Jun 02 18:28 | |
schestowitz | Jun 02 18:28 | |
schestowitz | Jun 02 18:28 | |
schestowitz | Is this website doing | Jun 02 18:28 |
ender_33 | "HE DIDN'T USE A GOVERNEMENT APPROVED SYSTEM FRIENDLY METHOD ALONG WITH PEER REVIEWED RESULTS - HE IS A CHARLETON!!!!" | Jun 02 18:28 |
schestowitz | ‘conspiracy theory’? | Jun 02 18:28 |
schestowitz | " | Jun 02 18:28 |
schestowitz | Why would he even state this? | Jun 02 18:29 |
schestowitz | "Am I a paedophile?" "Did I stop beating my wife?" | Jun 02 18:29 |
gnufreex | I read the "Islamic Declaration" of Alia Izetbegovic, and it is evil. He wanted the war. | Jun 02 18:29 |
ender_33 | msb_ I get the picture from your site that you believe the nwo conspiracy is a result of american capitalists | Jun 02 18:29 |
schestowitz | Not many people seem to read his site, either | Jun 02 18:30 |
schestowitz | tepid ranks | Jun 02 18:30 |
schestowitz | So not many citations of it | Jun 02 18:30 |
schestowitz | gnufreex: not sure I can trust just this one man's opinion as the truth | Jun 02 18:30 |
ender_33 | brain power is not enough | Jun 02 18:31 |
ender_33 | intuition is required | Jun 02 18:31 |
schestowitz | He was an RA at the University of Pennsylvania | Jun 02 18:31 |
schestowitz | But apparently got pushed out | Jun 02 18:31 |
schestowitz | http://www.hirhome.com/aboutus.htm | Jun 02 18:31 |
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schestowitz | "Francisco Gil-White on FOX-NEWS (Hannity & Colmes)" | Jun 02 18:32 |
schestowitz | LOL | Jun 02 18:32 |
schestowitz | Way to discredit oenself | Jun 02 18:32 |
schestowitz | Hannity | Jun 02 18:32 |
schestowitz | Is that before or after some Hannity segment on why Hitler was an atheist and Obama was bon in Kenya to bringm Islamic Revolution to the Land of the Brace? | Jun 02 18:33 |
schestowitz | *Brave | Jun 02 18:33 |
enthymeme | probably both before and after. | Jun 02 18:33 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Canonical Launches #Ubuntu-Ready Hardware Certification - http://bit.ly/ki3TnQ handy #compatibility | Jun 02 18:35 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fedora/@fedora] We're now accepting bids for a FUDCon in the Asia-Pacific region. http://2tu.us/3cql | Jun 02 18:35 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] ♺ @schestowitz: Choose Ubuntu (new video, not an endorsement) http://is.gd/z98i1K #playogg #ubuntu #gnu #linux | Jun 02 18:35 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Canonical Launches Ubuntu-Ready Hardware Certification | The VAR Guy .::. Size~: 67.96 KB | Jun 02 18:35 |
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ender_33 | I actually like FOX sometimes | Jun 02 18:36 |
ender_33 | I always try not to accept the opinion of the mass public | Jun 02 18:36 |
gnufreex | schestowitz: I read his articles about Kosovo and bosina and both are true based on what I knew before. You would need to read lots and lots of history and books to understand situation yourself and form an opinion. What CNN and like are saying is just garbage. | Jun 02 18:36 |
schestowitz | not matter of liks | Jun 02 18:36 |
schestowitz | aCCURACY | Jun 02 18:37 |
ender_33 | Glen Beck has his biases too but hes not stupid | Jun 02 18:37 |
gnufreex | It was VERY complex situation | Jun 02 18:37 |
schestowitz | *LIKES | Jun 02 18:37 |
*schestowitz eats | Jun 02 18:37 | |
schestowitz | sorry for typos | Jun 02 18:38 |
schestowitz | ender_33: not a matter of wisdom | Jun 02 18:38 |
schestowitz | But accuracy | Jun 02 18:38 |
schestowitz | Beck is manipulative | Jun 02 18:38 |
schestowitz | Murdoch and the skanks are using him to rally the rednecks against the Democrats | Jun 02 18:39 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Google Introducing schema.org: #Search engines come together for a richer web - http://bit.ly/kCTHN0 hmm, wonder what this will do | Jun 02 18:40 | |
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ender_33 | rednecks? | Jun 02 18:40 |
ender_33 | so anyone whos not left wing is one? | Jun 02 18:40 |
schestowitz | !google beck walters | Jun 02 18:41 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Barbara Walters Interviews Glenn Beck: Fox Host on Sarah Palin ... | http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/barbara-walters-interviews-glenn-beck/story%3Fid%3D9269778 | Jun 02 18:41 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - YouTube - Beck vs. Walter/Whoopi | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DMYqQ9xaGvlg | Jun 02 18:41 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Barbara Walters Tells Bill O'Reilly: You're Jealous Of Glenn Beck ... | http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/12/09/barbara-walters-tells-bil_n_386619.html | Jun 02 18:41 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Walter Beck - The Fable Wiki - Fable, Fable 2, Fable 3, and more | http://fable.wikia.com/wiki/Walter_Beck | Jun 02 18:41 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @Copycense We are live Tweeting the @copyrightoffice hearings on federalizing law for pre-1972 sound recordings #usco72 #copyright | Jun 02 18:41 | |
schestowitz | [18:40] <ender_33> so anyone whos not left wing is one? | Jun 02 18:41 |
schestowitz | no | Jun 02 18:41 |
schestowitz | Man 1: "sound was so loud even dogs could hear it" | Jun 02 18:42 |
schestowitz | Man 2: "are you calling me a dog?" | Jun 02 18:42 |
schestowitz | Your logic there leaps inductions | Jun 02 18:43 |
schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/75187714 | Jun 02 18:43 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @Danny (tekk)'s status on Thursday, 02-Jun-11 17:19:42 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz you're sending out more dents than anyone else ;P | Jun 02 18:43 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] ♻ @fedora: We're now accepting bids for a FUDCon in the Asia-Pacific region. http://2tu.us/3cql | Jun 02 18:45 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @tekk I don't try to. I just share when I find something worth sharing. | Jun 02 18:45 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RD @glynmoody @Copycense We are live Tweeting the @copyrightoffice hearings on federalizing law for pre-1972 sound recordings #usco72 .. | Jun 02 18:45 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RD .. #copyright | Jun 02 18:45 | |
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enthymeme | Mmm, Glenn Beck. >_O | Jun 02 18:46 |
enthymeme | I remember the show where he denoucned Net Neutrality as a liberal conspiracy to censor your blog. | Jun 02 18:47 |
gnufreex | schestowitz: Thing is, you won't ever hear other side from western media. They created atmosphere where anybody defending Serb side is like defending Hitler. And everybody would end up discredited. Today, even RTS (Serbian national TV) is going by American story, because "we need to get into europe". I can give you other articles but I find them to have some crazy claims I don't agree with. (like vatican helping muslims and | Jun 02 18:50 |
gnufreex | such) | Jun 02 18:50 |
schestowitz | OK, but the truth might be somehwere in between | Jun 02 18:51 |
gnufreex | It might. | Jun 02 18:52 |
gnufreex | But I think we'll never know | Jun 02 18:52 |
gnufreex | I mean for sure | Jun 02 18:52 |
gnufreex | Since west media sprading so much lies that it is crazy. | Jun 02 18:52 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] We're coming home! @heatsynclabs gets a new home http://ur1.ca/4bw0j !hackerspaces | Jun 02 18:53 | |
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schestowitz | Let;'s annoy ender_33 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nrvrkVBt24 | Jun 02 18:53 |
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schestowitz | It's all a media conpiracy | Jun 02 18:53 |
schestowitz | :-) | Jun 02 18:53 |
schestowitz | But Fox tells us the truth | Jun 02 18:53 |
schestowitz | Fox is not the media | Jun 02 18:53 |
schestowitz | It's unbiased :0) | Jun 02 18:53 |
schestowitz | /sarcasm | Jun 02 18:53 |
ender_33 | the best actors in the world are the ones who read the news | Jun 02 18:55 |
ender_33 | the media is always biased towards the system | Jun 02 18:55 |
ender_33 | they're all biased in one way | Jun 02 18:56 |
ender_33 | hegelian dialectic | Jun 02 18:56 |
ender_33 | us vs them | Jun 02 18:57 |
gnufreex | Ruder finn was doing a spin job | Jun 02 18:57 |
gnufreex | That is company that set up public opinion by US abot that waer | Jun 02 18:58 |
gnufreex | war | Jun 02 18:58 |
gnufreex | A PR company | Jun 02 18:58 |
gnufreex | And later media pick up | Jun 02 18:58 |
schestowitz | !google fox leak global warming denial | Jun 02 19:00 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Leaked E-mail Shows Fox News Slanted Coverage of Climate Change on ... | http://www.ethicsdaily.com/leaked-e-mail-shows-fox-news-slanted-coverage-of-climate-change-cms-17225 | Jun 02 19:00 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Fox News: Drowning in global warming lies | http://act.credoaction.com/campaign/fire_sammon/%3Frc%3Dtw2 | Jun 02 19:00 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Fox News « Watching the Deniers | https://watchingthedeniers.wordpress.com/category/fox-news/ | Jun 02 19:00 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Climate Depot's Morano on Fox News Global Warming Coverage: 'It's ... | http://www.climatedepot.com/a/9133/Climate-Depots-Morano-on-Fox-News-Global-Warming-Coverage-Its-an-inspiration-for-journalism-and-its-a-beacon-of-hope-that-Fox-News-gets-it | Jun 02 19:00 |
gnufreex | I don't worry about global warming | Jun 02 19:00 |
gnufreex | There are things that will kill us before | Jun 02 19:01 |
schestowitz | We have to worry about these too | Jun 02 19:03 |
schestowitz | Not "instead" | Jun 02 19:03 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Tara is doing a ustream.tv videocast about Novacut, the next-gen video platform, in a few mins at http://is.gd/g3T8Bi - join her! | Jun 02 19:03 | |
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schestowitz | Like stockpile of megaton bombs | Jun 02 19:03 |
schestowitz | They could affect the weatjer to the point of killing half of human civilisation after a short afternoon | Jun 02 19:04 |
schestowitz | All it takes is some psychopaths like Palin or an accident | Jun 02 19:04 |
schestowitz | Accident being more likely | Jun 02 19:05 |
schestowitz | It almost happened some years ago because the Soviet systems are crap | Jun 02 19:05 |
schestowitz | In the US IBM handles some of the systems... if that doesn't make you nervous. | Jun 02 19:05 |
schestowitz | Guy parked like a jackass. We taught him a lesson he will remember. http://imgur.com/9qFLq | Jun 02 19:06 |
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schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/75189601 | Jun 02 19:06 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @Ãyvind A. Holm (sunny256)'s status on Thursday, 02-Jun-11 17:44:49 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Awesome. Pretty risky, though. If he's the type that parks like that, he'd probably ram his way out again. How did it turn out? | Jun 02 19:06 |
ender_33 | thats fine I already know climate scientists are lying to keep their jobs | Jun 02 19:07 |
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ender_33 | climategate | Jun 02 19:07 |
ender_33 | im not listening to the media which will tell me to disregard and ignore climategate | Jun 02 19:07 |
GoForbes28 | you listen to media? | Jun 02 19:11 |
GoForbes28 | lol | Jun 02 19:12 |
ender_33 | I try to avoid it but its nearly impossible | Jun 02 19:12 |
ender_33 | tecnically speaking, Roy is the media | Jun 02 19:12 |
ender_33 | alternative media though | Jun 02 19:12 |
ender_33 | which is ok | Jun 02 19:12 |
ender_33 | mainstream media is the enemy of truth | Jun 02 19:13 |
GoForbes28 | RMS is alternative media and gave good reasons why to ignore climategate | Jun 02 19:13 |
GoForbes28 | though as I said before | Jun 02 19:14 |
GoForbes28 | It's ironic that most competent news agency in Canada is the CBC | Jun 02 19:14 |
GoForbes28 | Then again, low standards beget easy barriers to break | Jun 02 19:14 |
GoForbes28 | You know, the way our government is set up, it isn't such a bad idea | Jun 02 19:15 |
ender_33 | even the CBC isn't perfect | Jun 02 19:15 |
ender_33 | they at least told us that BPA is bad for you | Jun 02 19:15 |
GoForbes28 | oh certainly not | Jun 02 19:15 |
ender_33 | "The Disappearing Male" | Jun 02 19:15 |
ender_33 | a documentary about the decline in male births and the sperm count | Jun 02 19:16 |
GoForbes28 | and they were totally silent on the Wikileaks against Harper involving American influence | Jun 02 19:16 |
GoForbes28 | But I listen to CBC radio more than I watch TV during the day | Jun 02 19:16 |
GoForbes28 | A lot of the entertainment shows are quite interesting | Jun 02 19:16 |
ender_33 | I'd rather listen to coast to coast am | Jun 02 19:16 |
GoForbes28 | what's that? | Jun 02 19:17 |
GoForbes28 | !google coast to coast am | Jun 02 19:18 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Home - Coast to Coast AM | http://www.coasttocoastam.com/ | Jun 02 19:18 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Shows - Coast to Coast AM | http://www.coasttocoastam.com/shows | Jun 02 19:18 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Upcoming Shows - Coast to Coast AM | http://www.coasttocoastam.com/shows/upcoming | Jun 02 19:18 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Coast to Coast AM - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coast_to_Coast_AM | Jun 02 19:18 |
GoForbes28 | ahh | Jun 02 19:18 |
GoForbes28 | well, I was talking about entertainment shows | Jun 02 19:18 |
GoForbes28 | on CBC radio | Jun 02 19:18 |
GoForbes28 | like the Russell Peters one | Jun 02 19:19 |
GoForbes28 | hilarious | Jun 02 19:19 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] What is organizational health? | http://red.ht/iL9mxH #hackmanagement #culture | Jun 02 19:23 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 2/6/2011: Skype Reverse-Engineered, Mandriva 2011 Beta 3 http://is.gd/fAD7Iy !techrights | Jun 02 19:23 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Links 2/6/2011: Skype Reverse-Engineered, Mandriva 2011 Beta 3 http://is.gd/fAD7Iy #techrights | Jun 02 19:23 | |
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msb_ | ender_33: " <ender_33> msb_ I get the picture from your site that you believe the nwo conspiracy is a result of american capitalists" | Jun 02 19:23 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] A month in OpenStack Diablo: the diablo-1 milestone - http://is.gd/Ahl2IP #ubuntu #cloud | Jun 02 19:25 | |
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msb_ | ender_33: I think NWO leadership are various ultra-wealthy capitalists in banking, weapons, pharma, media, etc, in various countries -- US, England, Israel, and others, and also some very powerful politicians, e.g., the Bush family. | Jun 02 19:25 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Friday's security advisories http://lwn.net/Articles/445828/rss | Jun 02 19:26 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Damned In Black by Immortal never stops being an awesome tune. All hail the badgers of black metal. | Jun 02 19:26 | |
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msb_ | ender_33: But you derive very erroneous conclusions about my website and me. | Jun 02 19:27 |
gnufreex | msb_: what is NWO? | Jun 02 19:28 |
msb_ | ender_33: You say it is "pure communism" because one site I link to has one page with an anti-business recommendation. | Jun 02 19:28 |
msb_ | gnufreex: New World Order -- a concept for fascist world govt put forth by GHW Bush and various others. | Jun 02 19:29 |
gnufreex | Oh, that. Is it that still New? | Jun 02 19:29 |
msb_ | gnufreex: Not very new, but that's what they call it. | Jun 02 19:30 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Great to see my dad, @darkrye still tweeting up a storm. Love him to bits. :-) | Jun 02 19:31 | |
msb_ | This is a very good talk about the NWO. Good idea to download it, as googlevideo is going away. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4788106431016278751 | Jun 02 19:32 |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: David Icke - Big Brother, the Big Picture (Final Edit) .::. Size~: 40.4 KB | Jun 02 19:32 |
ender_33 | msb_ you claim its entirely the goal of american capitalists then? | Jun 02 19:33 |
msb_ | This one is also good: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NO24XmP1c5E | Jun 02 19:34 |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: YouTube - Invisible Empire A New World Order Defined Full (Order it at Infowars.com) .::. Size~: 127.08 KB | Jun 02 19:34 |
ender_33 | msb_ you ignore the british elite and secret societies such as freemasonry and the illuminati? as well as the ancient orders? | Jun 02 19:34 |
ender_33 | thats what I call disinfo | Jun 02 19:35 |
ender_33 | lies through omission | Jun 02 19:35 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] WebRTC would allow browser-to-browser communication with no server needed in-between (I Programmer): http://bit.ly/iEa1af | Jun 02 19:36 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Jun 02 19:36 |
ender_33 | msb_ the illuminati was exposed hundreds of years ago of trying to do the exact same thing communism achieves | Jun 02 19:37 |
msb_ | ender_33: I don't know how much influence "the british elite and secret societies such as freemasonry and the illuminati as well as the ancient orders" have today. But the ones I mentioned have a lot. | Jun 02 19:38 |
ender_33 | you won't find that out in todays socialistic school system | Jun 02 19:38 |
ender_33 | the people you mention on your site have bosses | Jun 02 19:38 |
ender_33 | it doesnt end at capistalists | Jun 02 19:38 |
ender_33 | these people control them and the communists | Jun 02 19:38 |
ender_33 | left and right are parts of the same bird | Jun 02 19:39 |
msb_ | ender_33: You have said labor unions are communist. | Jun 02 19:40 |
ender_33 | that was based on my research | Jun 02 19:41 |
ender_33 | they still seem communist | Jun 02 19:41 |
msb_ | ender_33: So how should workers organize in order to have power equal to the corporations and wealthy capitalists? Or do you think they shouldn't? | Jun 02 19:41 |
ender_33 | im still against unions | Jun 02 19:41 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Did @fosspatents inform that the lodsys patent was formerly owned by Intellectual Ventures? Whereever there's a #swpat case, MSFT is close. | Jun 02 19:41 | |
ender_33 | i dont see how a union solves that problem by adding another layer of bureaucracy | Jun 02 19:42 |
ender_33 | i've seen unions cause other issues, like poor customer service | Jun 02 19:43 |
ender_33 | damaging the education system | Jun 02 19:43 |
ender_33 | a union makes sure that the worker is the most important part of the business, not the customers or the work itself | Jun 02 19:44 |
msb_ | With a union, workers can bargain collectively, refusing to work unless they get a good wage. Individually, workers can't do that, since the employer simply fires them and hires someone else. | Jun 02 19:44 |
ender_33 | yeah so they go on strike so I can't get my stuff done | Jun 02 19:44 |
ender_33 | as a customer | Jun 02 19:44 |
ender_33 | with a union, if you have a bad employee the union protects them and keeps them working at their job | Jun 02 19:45 |
msb_ | So complain to the employer and tell him to pay his workers well. | Jun 02 19:45 |
ender_33 | they've kept teachers working who shouldn't be teachers | Jun 02 19:45 |
ender_33 | msb_ i shouldn't receive bad customer service because the worker is disgruntled, thats selfishness on the workers part | Jun 02 19:45 |
ender_33 | hes not doing his job if hes a fucking asshole | Jun 02 19:46 |
msb_ | As with all types of organizations, some are honest and rational, and some are corrupt. | Jun 02 19:46 |
ender_33 | perhaps I believe I should be paid more than my peers | Jun 02 19:46 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Why @fosspatents claims Apple should license again with Lodsys fails me. They already had a license for that patent b4 it was sold to lodsys | Jun 02 19:46 | |
ender_33 | based on a skill set they dont have | Jun 02 19:46 |
ender_33 | why should I make the same money as someone who doesnt | Jun 02 19:47 |
msb_ | If workers are getting only a small percentage of the company profits, then they are right to refuse to work until they get more. | Jun 02 19:47 |
ender_33 | msb_ no they are right to do the job they are being paid to do, or quit and go find something better | Jun 02 19:47 |
ender_33 | dont work a job you hate | Jun 02 19:47 |
ender_33 | thats retarded | Jun 02 19:47 |
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ender_33 | how do you solve the problem of a company just firing everyone who is in a union | Jun 02 19:48 |
ender_33 | what if you want to work somewhere that has a union, and you don't want to be included because the laws are better? | Jun 02 19:48 |
msb_ | Sometimes that is not a solution. All coal mining companies may pay the same unfair low wage, for example. | Jun 02 19:48 |
ender_33 | then grow a brain and stop being a coal miner | Jun 02 19:49 |
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ender_33 | for the more intelligent, work has become a career | Jun 02 19:49 |
ender_33 | people pick their careers based on income it may provide | Jun 02 19:49 |
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ender_33 | unintelligent people just do joe jobs to put food on their table and get a roof over their head | Jun 02 19:50 |
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ender_33 | also, careers are picked based on hobbies leading to enjoyment | Jun 02 19:51 |
msb_ | So you think that the capitalists should set the wage rates and workers should only choose from among those offers. | Jun 02 19:51 |
ender_33 | workers set the wage rates by quitting if its too low | Jun 02 19:52 |
msb_ | You think workers should not pressure capitalists to pay a fair percentage of the profits to the workers? | Jun 02 19:52 |
ender_33 | msb_ you seem to think they are entitled? | Jun 02 19:52 |
ender_33 | not every business is the same you know | Jun 02 19:52 |
msb_ | I think they are entitled to a fair percentage of the business profits. | Jun 02 19:53 |
ender_33 | im sure the unintelligent front line staff have no idea what it takes to run a business | Jun 02 19:53 |
ender_33 | they're just doing manual labour | Jun 02 19:53 |
ender_33 | msb_ if that is part of their contract | Jun 02 19:53 |
ender_33 | if you have the right skill you can get any job you want | Jun 02 19:54 |
msb_ | I think that is part of the implied contract of all people born on Earth. | Jun 02 19:54 |
ender_33 | thats your bargaining chip | Jun 02 19:54 |
ender_33 | msb_ so if I wash windows for microsoft im entitled to a percentage of their profit? | Jun 02 19:54 |
ender_33 | just by being an earthling | Jun 02 19:54 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] Five Things Every Windows User Should Know http://bit.ly/jde4Qh #linux #windows8 #opensource | Jun 02 19:55 | |
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ender_33 | riddle me this then | Jun 02 19:55 |
ender_33 | if every employee gets a fair share of the profit: | Jun 02 19:55 |
msb_ | Yes | Jun 02 19:55 |
ender_33 | 1) what happens if I hire 20000000 people, just so I can pay them 0.20 cents | Jun 02 19:55 |
ender_33 | 2) What incentive does the owner and brains behind the operation get for wanting to even start a company in the first place? | Jun 02 19:55 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] @fosspatents your TL;DR stuff elegantly avoids the fact that Apple, Google *have* a license for the lodsys paptent B4 it became lodsys owned | Jun 02 19:56 | |
ender_33 | when I worked in sales | Jun 02 19:57 |
ender_33 | people got pissed at the idea of splitting up comission amongst the entire staff | Jun 02 19:57 |
msb_ | 1) that makes no sense 2) the owner can take, e.g., 10 or 20 times the money per hour that he pays his workers, but no more. | Jun 02 19:57 |
ender_33 | because not everyone puts in the same effort on the job | Jun 02 19:57 |
ender_33 | msb_ 1) you make no sense | Jun 02 19:57 |
ender_33 | if I hire twenty thousand people and I only have to pay them a percentage of profit, what do they get if profit is only $1000 a year | Jun 02 19:58 |
ender_33 | lol | Jun 02 19:58 |
ender_33 | or any other small number for profit | Jun 02 19:58 |
ender_33 | when there are too many employees | Jun 02 19:58 |
msb_ | Then you business is malfunctioning. | Jun 02 19:59 |
msb_ | your | Jun 02 19:59 |
ender_33 | it will malfunction if you have to expend all your profits | Jun 02 19:59 |
ender_33 | towards your 'entitled' staff | Jun 02 19:59 |
ender_33 | If I make 50 billion selling a movie, I gotta pay the bus boy a few million dollars? | Jun 02 20:00 |
ender_33 | even though nothing he did is worth that | Jun 02 20:00 |
ender_33 | anyways, im not convinced | Jun 02 20:01 |
msb_ | If the movie -- not you -- made 50 billion, you could afford to. | Jun 02 20:01 |
ender_33 | im not convinced | Jun 02 20:03 |
ender_33 | I could afford to give to all sorts of charities | Jun 02 20:03 |
ender_33 | im not going to | Jun 02 20:03 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #IBM Needs to Explain Office Suite Patents (and How #BillGates Was Attacking Interoperability With Lotus) http://is.gd/CIqP8m #swpats #odf | Jun 02 20:03 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] IBM Needs to Explain Office Suite Patents (and How Bill Gates Was Attacking Interoperability With Lotus) http://is.gd/CIqP8m #symphony #ooo | Jun 02 20:03 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Why Oracle’s donation of !OpenOffice disappoints "miscommunication and mismanagement of the project" http://ping.fm/2r0UT | Jun 02 20:03 | |
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msb_ | ender_33: I think that your ideas are fixed, and you ignore any evidence that people give you, like what I said about coal miners. So I don't think you will ever be convinced to change your mind about anything. You will go on thinking that my website -- cosmicpenguin.com -- is "pure communism", and that unions are too. | Jun 02 20:05 |
ender_33 | anyways im going for lunch, but before I go I must say what I have on my mind and if you want to discuss it further via e-mail you may go ahead. I suggest your site is dangerous because it lures people in who are researching conspiracy; if they stay long enough they will get the impression its all being orchestrated by 'western capitalists' instead of being the agenda that is thousands of years old. Then you redirect them tow | Jun 02 20:06 |
msb_ | ender_33: You have several times called me a "shape shifter", presumably because I link to a talk by David Icke, even though it doesn't mention aliens at all. | Jun 02 20:06 |
ender_33 | that was poking fun of reptilians | Jun 02 20:07 |
ender_33 | David Icke is an agent too | Jun 02 20:07 |
ender_33 | the fact you link to him and other new age stuff is scary | Jun 02 20:07 |
msb_ | ender_33: Your "thinking" methods are scary. | Jun 02 20:07 |
ender_33 | at least im not working for anyone but myself | Jun 02 20:08 |
ender_33 | I have to defend my mind against socialist ideology, I was brainwashed by it before. | Jun 02 20:09 |
ender_33 | anyways, this channel isnt the place | Jun 02 20:09 |
ender_33 | email if you want | Jun 02 20:09 |
msb_ | I am working to help the people of the world to have a more kind and cooperative society instead of all the violence, domination and war we have now. | Jun 02 20:09 |
ender_33 | you're leading people into the world government agenda | Jun 02 20:09 |
ender_33 | thats the only way your utopia COULD work | Jun 02 20:09 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] it would appear that the 40% was just a few miles south of Petaluma | Jun 02 20:10 | |
msb_ | Absolutely not. | Jun 02 20:10 |
ender_33 | the entire would would have to do it all at once | Jun 02 20:10 |
ender_33 | otherwise an enemy country would obliterate you | Jun 02 20:10 |
ender_33 | but anyways, lunch time | Jun 02 20:10 |
ender_33 | rebut in email | Jun 02 20:10 |
ender_33 | bye | Jun 02 20:10 |
msb_ | ender_33: I have better things to do. | Jun 02 20:10 |
ender_33 | msb_ of course, the ark ilk has many tasks for its agents | Jun 02 20:11 |
MinceR | such as lunch? >: | Jun 02 20:12 |
MinceR | :> | Jun 02 20:12 |
msb_ | ender_33: you are an idiot. | Jun 02 20:13 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Securizarea Internetului prin cenzură http://tinyurl.com/68mhg54 #net #eu #censorship #web #romania #internet #politics #security | Jun 02 20:16 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[torproject/@torproject] A big thanks to the 176 people who are running bridges and relays now! https://www.eff.org/torchallenge #tor #eff | Jun 02 20:16 | |
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Chips_B_Malroy | Hi all! Anyone every see this site: http://www.dwheeler.com/innovation/microsoft.html | Jun 02 20:20 |
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Chips_B_Malroy | its old, but good | Jun 02 20:20 |
Chips_B_Malroy | Anybody seen the stories about the Microsoft buying out Nokia rumors? | Jun 02 20:22 |
Chips_B_Malroy | which is what I came here to discuss mostly | Jun 02 20:22 |
Chips_B_Malroy | A fellow Linux user told me at the time that Elop made the deal for WP7, that the idea was to destroy Nokia enough for MS to pick it up cheaply. | Jun 02 20:24 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] Thanks to !YouTube for finally supporting a !FreeCulture license, but what about the !copyleft !CC BY-SA license? http://redd.it/hq54j | Jun 02 20:25 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Browser Wars: Chrome winning, IE losing http://is.gd/nOJvdZ #microsoft #google #web #software #internet #firefox #mozilla #ie #safari | Jun 02 20:25 | |
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Chips_B_Malroy | I did not believe that at the time, but after looking at the stock price and how they are not profitable now since Elop set the sail for the heart of the iceburg (with the WP7), maybe. | Jun 02 20:26 |
Chips_B_Malroy | Of course they will deny MS is trying to buy them. Part of any deal is non disclosure. Elop being a Trojan Mole type of CEO, he knows where the bread and butter comes from. | Jun 02 20:27 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ASUS new EeePC now available with Ubuntu operating system http://is.gd/LNASqP #asus #eepc #microsoft #windows #software #ubuntu #gnu #linux | Jun 02 20:28 | |
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Chips_B_Malroy | Why buy the cow when you already bought a supply of the milk for years? Because the price of the cow just might becomming less than the price of the milk. | Jun 02 20:29 |
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Chips_B_Malroy | Also, look at the timing. MS just paid 8.5 billion for Skype. Is Nokia worth 19.5 billion to MS. | Jun 02 20:29 |
Chips_B_Malroy | By next quarter Nokia will be worth even less. | Jun 02 20:30 |
Chips_B_Malroy | And MS will not have DOJ Antitrust Oversite to contend with which makes this sale easier for them. | Jun 02 20:31 |
Chips_B_Malroy | MS just came out of that and turned around and bought Skype. | Jun 02 20:31 |
Chips_B_Malroy | If MS money is being sheltered mostly overseas as to avoid taxes in the USA, then Nokia is a good cheap buy for MS, as Nokia is a foreign company based in Finland. | Jun 02 20:33 |
Chips_B_Malroy | Some links: http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2011/jun/02/nokia-chief-denies-microsoft-takeover | Jun 02 20:34 |
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Chips_B_Malroy | "A number of bloggers speculated that a deal with Microsoft had either already been done ? with some quoting a figure of $19bn (£11.6bn) ? or that it was being prepared for some time in the next month or so." | Jun 02 20:36 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] “Windows 8 Sounds Like It’s Basically Windows Phone 7 on a PC” http://is.gd/BgmJWv #windows #spin #tablet #gnu #linux | Jun 02 20:36 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fedora/@fedora] .@arstechnica reviews Fedora 15 "Lovelock" with Gnome 3 and systemd: http://2tu.us/3cqq | Jun 02 20:36 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] “Windows 8 Sounds Like It’s Basically Windows Phone 7 on a PC” http://is.gd/BgmJWv #android #spin #pr #wp7 | Jun 02 20:36 | |
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Chips_B_Malroy | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/06/02/nokia_crisis_do_not_shoot_the_pianist/ | Jun 02 20:37 |
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Chips_B_Malroy | "And while we are certainly watching a dramatic destruction of shareholder value ? this will be a terrible year for Nokia ? it's worth remembering that three bad quarters are not necessarily fatal to a company." | Jun 02 20:38 |
schestowitz | [20:31] <Chips_B_Malroy> And MS will not have DOJ Antitrust Oversite to contend with which makes this sale easier for them. | Jun 02 20:39 |
Chips_B_Malroy | "Elop was forced to rip up the revenue and margins forecasts he made for the entire year in February, announcing Nokia's "big switch" away from developing its own Meego and Symbian platforms, to paying royalties to use Windows Phone. Sales would be significantly lower, and margins weaker, than the company had predicted back then. Nokia said it wouldn't make any more forecasts for the year, which is very unusual. In other words, it was already | Jun 02 20:39 |
schestowitz | Microsoft wants Nokia's patents | Jun 02 20:39 |
Chips_B_Malroy | over the cliff edge, but didn't know when it would hit the ground." | Jun 02 20:39 |
schestowitz | With them, Microsoft can extort Android and hypePhone more easily | Jun 02 20:39 |
Chips_B_Malroy | that too | Jun 02 20:39 |
schestowitz | Oh, I promised not to type hypePhone | Jun 02 20:39 |
schestowitz | Anyway, to them it's about taxing OSes | Jun 02 20:39 |
schestowitz | Microsoft is a tax company | Jun 02 20:39 |
schestowitz | If not their own making, then others' | Jun 02 20:39 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Get Ready for LibreOffice 3.4 http://is.gd/1NAqvv #odf #lo #ooo #libreoffice #software #office #microsoft #msoffice #gnu #linux | Jun 02 20:40 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Jun 02 20:40 |
schestowitz | [20:34] <TechrightsBot-tr> Title: Nokia chief denies Microsoft takeover | Technology | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 227.41 KB | Jun 02 20:40 |
schestowitz | LOL | Jun 02 20:40 |
schestowitz | Who said it, Elop? | Jun 02 20:40 |
schestowitz | He IS the Microsoft takeover | Jun 02 20:40 |
Chips_B_Malroy | But it also wants to control the market and create another monopoly. That is the thing that Bill and his apprentise Stevie B always try to get first. | Jun 02 20:40 |
schestowitz | Bill Gates says he's not heading the Gates Floundation | Jun 02 20:40 |
schestowitz | Floudering the world.. | Jun 02 20:41 |
Chips_B_Malroy | Bill has no problem with the truth | Jun 02 20:41 |
Chips_B_Malroy | he simply avoids it | Jun 02 20:41 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is fabsh with 215 dents! | Jun 02 20:41 | |
Chips_B_Malroy | Nokia is almost ripe for the picking | Jun 02 20:41 |
schestowitz | Novell was | Jun 02 20:42 |
schestowitz | Not picked | Jun 02 20:42 |
schestowitz | Yahoo.. | Jun 02 20:42 |
schestowitz | Add to the list | Jun 02 20:42 |
schestowitz | A company of thugs assimilates the opposition | Jun 02 20:42 |
schestowitz | I can't think of any other company which does this | Jun 02 20:42 |
schestowitz | Microsoft has to spend almost no money to acehieve this | Jun 02 20:42 |
schestowitz | Bought Novell for a mere 300mk | Jun 02 20:42 |
schestowitz | And Nokia maybe at 2bn | Jun 02 20:43 |
schestowitz | Yahoo at no cost other than time | Jun 02 20:43 |
Chips_B_Malroy | The ecomony is tanking and everyone (consumers and stockholders) are abandoning Nokia. Thanks to the brillant tactors of Trojan Elop of using WP7, the phone OS that is selling in about last place. | Jun 02 20:43 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Mangalia, Constanța și Medgidia, 2 iunie 2011 http://is.gd/Jz3wsI #romania #monarchy | Jun 02 20:43 | |
schestowitz | And got away without any Microsoft exec in jail | Jun 02 20:43 |
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schestowitz | Proxy fights are legal in the US | Jun 02 20:43 |
schestowitz | And bribery too, if you call it incentive or something | Jun 02 20:43 |
schestowitz | Euphemism a day keeps the regulators a bay :-) | Jun 02 20:43 |
schestowitz | Chips_B_Malroy: it doesn't need to sell | Jun 02 20:44 |
schestowitz | See, this is what I was trying to explain | Jun 02 20:44 |
schestowitz | WP7 does not NEED TO SELL | Jun 02 20:44 |
Chips_B_Malroy | You can bet that MS at the very least will buy in "to support" Nokia when the price further drops on next quarters results. At the very least if not an buyout. | Jun 02 20:44 |
schestowitz | It's there so that Microsoft doesn't get called "patent troll" | Jun 02 20:44 |
schestowitz | While it's extorting the competition | Jun 02 20:44 |
schestowitz | Microsoft makes more money when HTC sells an Android phone than when it sells WP7 | Jun 02 20:44 |
schestowitz | Same for Samsung, LG and others | Jun 02 20:45 |
Chips_B_Malroy | yes | Jun 02 20:45 |
schestowitz | Microsoft is changing business practices... not its own | Jun 02 20:45 |
schestowitz | It's distorting what business in phones meamns | Jun 02 20:45 |
schestowitz | It means distributing taxes to Microsoft's trolls and Microsoft | Jun 02 20:45 |
schestowitz | Inc. IV | Jun 02 20:45 |
schestowitz | Nathan the criminal who smiles cause the law is not enough to arrest him for what he does to the world | Jun 02 20:45 |
Chips_B_Malroy | How about Motorolla? They continue to fight MS on the lawsuit over Android? | Jun 02 20:45 |
schestowitz | Yes, they do | Jun 02 20:45 |
schestowitz | B&N too | Jun 02 20:46 |
schestowitz | Microsoft extorts and sues | Jun 02 20:46 |
schestowitz | Hopefully the government will step in | Jun 02 20:46 |
schestowitz | But don't count on it | Jun 02 20:46 |
Chips_B_Malroy | If MS loses that one, then their trolling and racketeering scams are in danger. | Jun 02 20:46 |
schestowitz | Maybe the USPTO will be thrown in the bin | Jun 02 20:46 |
schestowitz | And the cases and "royalties" on Android wiyth it... | Jun 02 20:46 |
schestowitz | But Microosft wants Nokia | Jun 02 20:46 |
schestowitz | Nokia has HJARDWARE patents | Jun 02 20:46 |
schestowitz | Not just in the US | Jun 02 20:46 |
Chips_B_Malroy | The gov, is in Bills pocket here. | Jun 02 20:46 |
schestowitz | So even if swpats did, Microsoft and its mole Elop can assure more trollincome | Jun 02 20:47 |
schestowitz | Chips_B_Malroy: of course | Jun 02 20:47 |
schestowitz | Bill bought the press | Jun 02 20:47 |
schestowitz | Saint BIllia | Jun 02 20:47 |
Chips_B_Malroy | the gov, jumps to another string just like puppet Stevie | Jun 02 20:47 |
schestowitz | !gogle clinton bill gates | Jun 02 20:47 |
schestowitz | !ogogle clinton bill gates | Jun 02 20:47 |
schestowitz | !google clinton bill gates | Jun 02 20:47 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Exclusive: Bill Clinton and Bill Gates on AIDS - TODAY.com | http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/13910240/ns/today/t/exclusive-bill-clinton-bill-gates-aids/ | Jun 02 20:47 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Bill Clinton, Bill Gates Press US Congress for More Spending on ... | http://www.voanews.com/english/news/health/Bill-Clinton-Bill-Gates-Press-US-Congress-for-More-Spending-on-Global-Health-87266432.html | Jun 02 20:47 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - YouTube - Bill Clinton, Bill Gates Push Spending for Global Health | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3Djdl_eog2ixw | Jun 02 20:47 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Caption Contest: Bill Gates and Bill Clinton | http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/caption-contest-bill-gates-and-bill-clinton/ | Jun 02 20:47 |
Chips_B_Malroy | The Press, another string | Jun 02 20:47 |
schestowitz | Yes | Jun 02 20:47 |
schestowitz | For influence | Jun 02 20:47 |
schestowitz | Lobbyist #1 | Jun 02 20:47 |
schestowitz | Microsoft is a movement | Jun 02 20:48 |
schestowitz | Led by Bill | Jun 02 20:48 |
Chips_B_Malroy | So, question? | Jun 02 20:48 |
schestowitz | Microsoft is one of his gamepieces | Jun 02 20:48 |
schestowitz | He has others | Jun 02 20:48 |
schestowitz | That's why he spends less time with Microsoft | Jun 02 20:48 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Acolo unde nu-i durere, nici întristare, nici eroare de paritate http://is.gd/qNoL8x #romania #cemetery #software #egovt | Jun 02 20:48 | |
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schestowitz | For world domination he needs more pieces | Jun 02 20:48 |
schestowitz | !google goldman sachs bill gates | Jun 02 20:48 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Microsoft, Goldman Sachs and IQ -- Thursday, July 29, 2004 | http://archives.emergic.org/archives/indi/009435.php | Jun 02 20:48 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Gates Foundation Buys Ecolab Inc., Goldman Sachs, Monsanto Company ... | http://www.gurufocus.com/news/104835/ | Jun 02 20:48 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Op-Ed Contributor - Big Profits, Big Questions - NYTimes.com | http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/15/opinion/15cohan.html | Jun 02 20:48 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Bill Gates Dumps His Microsoft Shares and Buys Shares Of Goldman ... | http://techrights.org/2010/08/23/gates-foundation-financial-contributions/ | Jun 02 20:48 |
schestowitz | !google bp bill gates | Jun 02 20:48 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - What BP Can Teach Bill Gates About Sustainability | http://www.triplepundit.com/2011/05/bp-could-teach-bill-gates-about-sustainability/ | Jun 02 20:48 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - BP totally owns Bill Gates – istartedsomething | http://www.istartedsomething.com/20060728/bp-totally-owns-bill-gates/ | Jun 02 20:48 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - “The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation Owns Over 7 Million Shares ... | http://techrights.org/2010/06/07/bp-gates-foundation-numbers/ | Jun 02 20:48 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Bill Gates Top Holdings (ABT, AN, BRK-A, BP, CNI, CAT, KO, COST ... | http://247wallst.com/2009/02/17/bill-gates-top-holdings-abt-an-brk-a-bp-cni-cat-ko-cost-cci-ek-xom-fmx-jnj-mcd-ottr-rsg-sgp-wmt-wmi/ | Jun 02 20:48 |
schestowitz | !google exxonbill gates | Jun 02 20:48 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Khosla Calls Exxon Algae Project 'Pipe Dream' - Let's Have a ... | http://seekingalpha.com/instablog/378432-bill-paul/74620-khosla-calls-exxon-algae-project-pipe-dream-let-s-have-a-contest | Jun 02 20:48 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Sep 30, 2008 Paying to learn seems odd - BAEO - Black Alliance for ... | http://ohio.baeo.org/%3Fnews_section_id%3D1%26news_id%3D1422 | Jun 02 20:48 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Walmart's contributions? | http://www.lompocrecord.com/news/opinion/mailbag/article_228bbba2-2290-11e0-83d4-001cc4c03286.html | Jun 02 20:48 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation Trust Portfolio - 2011 Stock ... | http://stockpickr.com/link/2531 | Jun 02 20:48 |
schestowitz | !google walmart bill gates | Jun 02 20:48 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Bill Gates and Wal-Mart want to save the world - How the World ... | http://www.salon.com/technology/how_the_world_works/2008/01/24/bill_gates_and_wal_mart | Jun 02 20:48 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation Buys Expedia Inc., Walmart Stores ... | http://www.gurufocus.com/news/94844/ | Jun 02 20:48 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - The Gates Foundation Nearly Doubles Its Investment in Walmart ... | http://techrights.org/2010/05/24/walmart-and-gmo-in-india/ | Jun 02 20:48 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Walmart.com: Search Results for "Bill Gates" | http://www.walmart.com/search/search-ng.do%3Fref%3D%2B417300%26search_query%3DBill%2BGates%26ic%3D6_0%26_refineresult%3Dtrue%26search_constraint%3D0 | Jun 02 20:48 |
schestowitz | !google coca cola bill gates | Jun 02 20:49 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Bill Gates - Coke Commercial (Coca-Cola) | http://video.google.com/videoplay%3Fdocid%3D2428643356101239067 | Jun 02 20:49 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Bill Gates acquires 29.9% of Mexico's Coca-Cola Femsa – Mexico ... | http://www.mexico.vg/businesses/bill-gates-acquires-mexicos-coca-cola-femsa/3492 | Jun 02 20:49 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Bill Gates Just Spent $51 Million on this Stock | TopStockAnalysts.com | http://www.topstockanalysts.com/index.php/2011/05/26/bill-gates-just-spent-51-million-on-this-stock/ | Jun 02 20:49 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - YouTube - COCA COLA BILL GATES | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DhB01jN-xes4 | Jun 02 20:49 |
schestowitz | !google monsanto cola bill gates | Jun 02 20:49 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Gates Foundation Helps Bring Coca-Cola and Monsanto (GMO) to ... | http://techrights.org/2010/06/28/neocolonialism-by-famous-capitalists/ | Jun 02 20:49 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Bill Gates, big money, and dubious philanthropy | eats shoots 'n ... | http://richardbrenneman.wordpress.com/2011/05/15/bill-gates-big-money-and-dubious-philanthropy/ | Jun 02 20:49 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Why is the Gates foundation investing in GM giant Monsanto? | John ... | http://www.guardian.co.uk/global-development/poverty-matters/2010/sep/29/gates-foundation-gm-monsanto | Jun 02 20:49 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Deadline Live • View topic - Bill Gates buys 500000 stock shares ... | http://www.jackbloodforum.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php%3Ff%3D2%26t%3D26853 | Jun 02 20:49 |
schestowitz | Food | Jun 02 20:49 |
schestowitz | Drinks | Jun 02 20:49 |
schestowitz | Crops | Jun 02 20:49 |
schestowitz | Fuel | Jun 02 20:49 |
schestowitz | Energy | Jun 02 20:49 |
schestowitz | Software | Jun 02 20:49 |
schestowitz | What else? | Jun 02 20:49 |
schestowitz | Billy gets around | Jun 02 20:49 |
schestowitz | He buys the press to suppress criticism | Jun 02 20:49 |
schestowitz | Even those who did his PR turned against him once they realised how he had manipulated them | Jun 02 20:50 |
Chips_B_Malroy | What do you think the worth of Nokia will be in 4 more months? As fast as Elop is destroying Nokia, it is still vastly undervalued if MS buys it and chops it and sells most of it. Or goes in with others and splits parts of it up. Saving only the parts they want. | Jun 02 20:50 |
schestowitz | But they are out of the job now | Jun 02 20:50 |
schestowitz | They didn't play by his rules, so the Gates-funded media dumped them | Jun 02 20:50 |
schestowitz | Chips_B_Malroy: doesn't matter | Jun 02 20:50 |
schestowitz | Elop will put patents in a cracker sale | Jun 02 20:50 |
schestowitz | !google elop nokia patents | Jun 02 20:50 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Elop Says Nokia Deal is About Patents | http://lxnews.org/2011/02/21/elop-says-nokia-deal-is-about-patents/ | Jun 02 20:50 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Exclusive: Nokia's Stephen Elop Talks About How He Made His Big OS ... | http://allthingsd.com/20110210/exclusive-nokias-stephen-elop-talks-about-how-he-made-his-big-os-decision/ | Jun 02 20:50 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Elop-led Nokia and Bill Gates Lobby Europe Amid New Push Ushering ... | http://techrights.org/2011/04/13/elop-led-nokia-and-bill-gates-lobby-europe-amid-new-push-ushering-in-software-patents/ | Jun 02 20:50 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Microsoft's Nokia 'Deal' is More Like a Takeover, Patents Pose a ... | http://techrights.org/2011/02/11/elop-pours-gasoline/ | Jun 02 20:50 |
schestowitz | Guess who gets precedence in case of the sale? | Jun 02 20:51 |
schestowitz | Maybe CPTN | Jun 02 20:51 |
schestowitz | Maybe IV | Jun 02 20:51 |
schestowitz | Quite likely Microsoft | Jun 02 20:51 |
Chips_B_Malroy | Likely | Jun 02 20:51 |
Chips_B_Malroy | very | Jun 02 20:51 |
schestowitz | And Stephen nElop will have another chance to smile on stage like a boy with candy, with Stephen Ballmer his boss | Jun 02 20:51 |
schestowitz | Did he actually buy some Nokia shares at the end | Jun 02 20:52 |
schestowitz | ? | Jun 02 20:52 |
schestowitz | Knowing it was about to nosedive as pat of the plan..? | Jun 02 20:52 |
schestowitz | Our predictions are usually corect | Jun 02 20:52 |
schestowitz | Watch this log in one year | Jun 02 20:52 |
Chips_B_Malroy | Either way you look at it, Nokia is fast becoming, if not already, a target for a hostile takeover. | Jun 02 20:53 |
Chips_B_Malroy | That is if MS does not already have a deal with them | Jun 02 20:53 |
schestowitz | I should dent this too | Jun 02 20:53 |
schestowitz | Just in case | Jun 02 20:53 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Microsoft wants to destroy #Nokia and get its *hardware* patents cheaply (not just #swpats ) to extort *all* Android sellers. #tax Microsoft | Jun 02 20:55 | |
Chips_B_Malroy | As the price of Nokia Stock is likely to continue to drop with the help of the brillant leadership of Elop, a takeover becomes more and more a logical outcome. | Jun 02 20:55 |
Chips_B_Malroy | Roy, while I never believed that MS would buy the whole cow (Nokia) at the time, now I am not so sure. | Jun 02 20:56 |
Chips_B_Malroy | MS has always wanted to move into producing its own computers, and owning a hardware company. Xbox does not count, someone in China makes that for them. | Jun 02 20:57 |
Chips_B_Malroy | MS has been prevented from doing this because of DOJ oversite. | Jun 02 20:58 |
Chips_B_Malroy | was just expired | Jun 02 20:58 |
Chips_B_Malroy | Nokia is a phone hardware/software company. But I believe they were making a netbook as well? | Jun 02 20:59 |
Chips_B_Malroy | But think of the smartphone more as a small computer. | Jun 02 20:59 |
Chips_B_Malroy | It would put MS more into the catagory of what Apple does. | Jun 02 21:00 |
Chips_B_Malroy | A takeover by someone else other than MS of Nokia would not be as bad prehaps. | Jun 02 21:01 |
Chips_B_Malroy | Nokia thanks to the efforts of the Trojan Elop, has become like a pair of Soviet aria made shoes, worth more for the parts used than the finished pair of shoes. | Jun 02 21:03 |
schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/75198645 | Jun 02 21:04 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @Claudio (claudiom)'s status on Thursday, 02-Jun-11 19:51:50 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz That wouldn't surprise me in the least. | Jun 02 21:04 |
schestowitz | http://identi.ca/conversation/72756341#notice-75198645 | Jun 02 21:04 |
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schestowitz | [20:56] <Chips_B_Malroy> Roy, while I never believed that MS would buy the whole cow (Nokia) at the time, now I am not so sure. | Jun 02 21:05 |
schestowitz | Nokia also makes tires and boots, IIRC | Jun 02 21:05 |
schestowitz | Oh | Jun 02 21:05 |
schestowitz | You mentioned this | Jun 02 21:05 |
schestowitz | [21:03] <Chips_B_Malroy> Nokia thanks to the efforts of the Trojan Elop, has become like a pair of Soviet aria made shoes, worth more for the parts used than the finished pair of shoes. | Jun 02 21:06 |
Chips_B_Malroy | well then, maybe I should have changed my ananology from shoes to boots? | Jun 02 21:06 |
Chips_B_Malroy | spelling on 'aria' please feel free to change anything I misspell | Jun 02 21:06 |
Chips_B_Malroy | or typo | Jun 02 21:06 |
schestowitz | I saw that | Jun 02 21:07 |
schestowitz | context helps fix it mentally | Jun 02 21:07 |
Chips_B_Malroy | I am not the best speller | Jun 02 21:07 |
Chips_B_Malroy | sorry | Jun 02 21:07 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Nokia thanks to the efforts of the Trojan Elop, has become like a pair of Soviet aria made shoes..." | Jun 02 21:08 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "... worth more for the parts used than the finished pair of shoes." ~Malroy | Jun 02 21:08 | |
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Chips_B_Malroy | This might be too big a fish for Paul Singer to eat. | Jun 02 21:10 |
Chips_B_Malroy | 19 billion | Jun 02 21:10 |
Chips_B_Malroy | but the price is going down | Jun 02 21:10 |
schestowitz | Ewww... | Jun 02 21:11 |
schestowitz | Singer | Jun 02 21:11 |
schestowitz | Make a jail cell for him in the Cayman | Jun 02 21:11 |
ender_33 | 15:09 < msb_> ender_33: you are an idiot. | Jun 02 21:11 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Ethical Software: A Proposal http://is.gd/gOPpIu promoting ethics through software | Jun 02 21:11 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Ethical Software: A Proposal http://is.gd/gOPpIu !techrights | Jun 02 21:11 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Thank you @vinzveg for adding the 200th relay to the Tor network for the #TorChallenge! | Jun 02 21:11 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] So much spam in Twitter this week (fake users with dodgy URLs)... it makes the experience there agonising at times. | Jun 02 21:11 | |
ender_33 | A Genuine Thanks!!! :) | Jun 02 21:11 |
Chips_B_Malroy | Novell went cheap. something like 2.6billion, and Novell already had 900 million in cash reserves | Jun 02 21:11 |
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Chips_B_Malroy | agreed on Singer. same on Icahn | Jun 02 21:12 |
Chips_B_Malroy | Question is, is this too big a buy for some of the corporate raiders to go after, Nokia has to be looking tasty to them now. | Jun 02 21:13 |
schestowitz | [21:12] <Chips_B_Malroy> agreed on Singer. same on Icahn | Jun 02 21:13 |
schestowitz | why did they last this long | Jun 02 21:13 |
schestowitz | They did so much damage to so many people | Jun 02 21:13 |
schestowitz | And they are still out there like serial killers | Jun 02 21:13 |
schestowitz | They killl with debt | Jun 02 21:13 |
schestowitz | Not with knives | Jun 02 21:13 |
Chips_B_Malroy | more like parasites | Jun 02 21:13 |
schestowitz | And make families lose their income | Jun 02 21:13 |
schestowitz | What some do in silocon vally by innovating these hawks just dismantle | Jun 02 21:14 |
schestowitz | To innovation they are like the "anti-Christ" to borrow a metaphor | Jun 02 21:14 |
schestowitz | "Investor-activist" LOL | Jun 02 21:14 |
schestowitz | Giving a bad name to activism | Jun 02 21:15 |
GoForbes28 | schestowitz: CBC had additional information on gov't computer hacking last dec. | Jun 02 21:15 |
Chips_B_Malroy | There is no end to greed it seems for the very rich. | Jun 02 21:15 |
GoForbes28 | don't have link, but you should keep your eyes out for the story; good Windows <> gov't evidence | Jun 02 21:15 |
Chips_B_Malroy | Nokia is going down so fast, and it has not hit the bottom yet, someone or MS will do it. | Jun 02 21:17 |
GoForbes28 | will be back sunday at the latest | Jun 02 21:17 |
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ender_33 | Microsoft should be charged for giving source code to China | Jun 02 21:20 |
Chips_B_Malroy | Really believe that the only way the patent issue in going be solved (outlawed) here in the USA is if the lawsuits quickly muliply to the point that 1. the tv press covers it all the time 2. the court system becomes so overworked with it that the supreme court strikes down software patents. | Jun 02 21:21 |
Chips_B_Malroy | ender> yes | Jun 02 21:21 |
Chips_B_Malroy | and for many other abuses as well | Jun 02 21:21 |
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Chips_B_Malroy | Roy> You been following the economic news here in the USA? Its very bad. | Jun 02 21:25 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Having a nice Médoc to end a nice, sunny day with.... | Jun 02 21:30 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @Copycense Pariser, RIAA: "there is [virtually] zero value to a sound recording in the public domain." except to humanity #copyright | Jun 02 21:30 | |
Chips_B_Malroy | more from the last link: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/06/02/nokia_crisis_do_not_shoot_the_pianist/page2.html | Jun 02 21:35 |
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Chips_B_Malroy | second page | Jun 02 21:35 |
Chips_B_Malroy | "This week Elop pledged to bring a Windows Phone to market sooner rather than later, suggesting it would most likely appear in 2011 after all. But why rush? Nokia will have two more bad quarters in 2011, and this may turn into three or four. In the 1990s, Apple saw its revenue halve, and in one year endured losses of 15 per cent of revenues. A company can crawl back from the brink. But a poorly differentiated or buggy range of new products | Jun 02 21:35 |
Chips_B_Malroy | will have much direr consequences for Nokia, and make it very difficult to tell any kind of "comeback story"." | Jun 02 21:35 |
Chips_B_Malroy | Yes, get WP7 out there on Nokia right away Mr. Elop, as custermers just can't wait to buy WP7. Just ask MS for its sales figures, err, whoops, what sales? | Jun 02 21:37 |
Chips_B_Malroy | rant over | Jun 02 21:37 |
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Chips_B_Malroy | Just reading your WP8 story | Jun 02 21:40 |
Chips_B_Malroy | I have been thinking of what the user interface looks like on WP7 and W8, which we know know is the same one. | Jun 02 21:41 |
Chips_B_Malroy | While MS claims it came from Zune software development, I think its origins go but much further. | Jun 02 21:43 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Copyright Office joins in: let's make illegal #streaming a felony - http://bit.ly/j5UQAa surely quicker just to arrest everyone under 35? | Jun 02 21:43 | |
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Chips_B_Malroy | Go back further paste the tiles, past the touch screen and what do you have? | Jun 02 21:43 |
Chips_B_Malroy | You have Microsoft Bob, repackaged. | Jun 02 21:44 |
Chips_B_Malroy | Well ok, the tiles do slide, wow. | Jun 02 21:45 |
Chips_B_Malroy | But in many ways Bob and Wp7 menu work similarly | Jun 02 21:46 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Civic #Commons taps tech to make government work better and cost less - http://oreil.ly/jubsX8 "$250,000 of funding from Omidyar Network" | Jun 02 21:46 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] This Médoc is fucking amazing. | Jun 02 21:48 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #HTC Opens Sense UI to Developers with OpenSense & New HTCDev Program - http://rww.to/jBwjDN but not #opensource, methinks | Jun 02 21:48 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @andyc: This is more like it. I have 'Mint on pillow'! | Jun 02 21:51 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Lodsys Patent Attacks on #Android (Linux) Developers Come From Microsoft’s Former CTO http://is.gd/8ktzjz #linux #swpats #extortion | Jun 02 21:53 | |
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Chips_B_Malroy | MS still has some big companies left to buy | Jun 02 21:53 |
Chips_B_Malroy | if it true they have as much money sitting around as they claim to. | Jun 02 21:54 |
Chips_B_Malroy | ok later all | Jun 02 21:54 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @eff Thank you @vinzveg for adding the 200th relay to the Tor network for the #TorChallenge! | Jun 02 22:00 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] #SCOTUS Helps the Monopolists, Not the Citizens of the United States (Again) http://is.gd/a9utVc impatient with so-called 'justice' | Jun 02 22:00 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] SCOTUS Helps the Monopolists, Not the Citizens of the United States (Again) http://is.gd/a9utVc #swpats #bilski #microsoft #google | Jun 02 22:01 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks wins top UK journalism prize http://bit.ly/kA39VT | Jun 02 22:05 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] The Houuuuuur of Slaaaaaack #1311. !subgenius | Jun 02 22:06 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Photoshop isn't free" http://i.imgur.com/YX1ji.gif A lighter side (non-news, but new) #Photoshop makes you a bad person | Jun 02 22:10 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Kudos to Peter Jaszi and @paufder for helping spread the word on fair use. https://eff.org/r.56f #FairUse | Jun 02 22:11 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] For all my graphics work I use http://www.gimp.org/ - made/edited about 10,000 images in it since ~2001. #gimp #gnu #graphics #freedom | Jun 02 22:11 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @reality: Also after the exam I became drunk, sat on the beach and then coded a lot of Javascript. #todayinadent | Jun 02 22:11 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] 2008 Château de Panigon is #WIN :) | Jun 02 22:13 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @wikileaks2 WikiLeaks wins top UK journalism prize http://bit.ly/kA39VT >> power to Julian. Fight for us, the real people. | Jun 02 22:15 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] If #Assange gets enough awards, it will become hard for the sociopaths and warmongers to harm him. See #Pauling #Pinter #Stallman and others | Jun 02 22:15 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] RT @x11r5 @fendus Correct me if you want some | Jun 02 22:16 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @evan Have a safe flight. Hope you enjoy Germany. :) | Jun 02 22:16 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] ♻ @ElNushio: I have to admit that the new #FPCA is extremely clear and easy to understand. Thanks to all who wrote it! | Jun 02 22:18 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @fabsh I can believe that. One of the reasons I always buy second hand is they're actually more reliable, and Greener of course; win win | Jun 02 22:20 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I've posted 2ce about belief; what an odd coincidence | Jun 02 22:21 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] RT @rrix ♻ @ElNushio: I have to admit that the new #FPCA is extremely clear and easy to understand. Thanks to all who wrote it! | Jun 02 22:21 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RD @ghotir 1st time I've seen a #Bitcoin address (for donation) in an #Android market app description http://status.ghotir.us/attachment/704 | Jun 02 22:25 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @eff Kudos to Peter Jaszi and @paufder for helping spread the word on fair use. https://eff.org/r.56f #FairUse | Jun 02 22:25 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] This kid selling his kidney for an ipad http://goo.gl/ESBxu is still disturbing me. I can't get rid a sad feeling about it. | Jun 02 22:28 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Ask Ars: Do solid-state drives cause problems with sleep mode? (Ars): http://bit.ly/iEFGAQ | Jun 02 22:28 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] I think I must have #rhinovirus or #bronchitis | Jun 02 22:30 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @meegoblog: Watch Acer Demo Their First MeeGo Tablet The 10-inch Acer Iconia Tab M500 http://nowskip.to/kyXvtV | Jun 02 22:30 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Spoofing Locations Made Easy By Robert Vamosi http://bit.ly/jeId7B | Jun 02 22:46 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] @fosspatents I don't need your TL;DR exactly *because* I understand what's going on. | Jun 02 22:46 | |
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Chips_B_Malroy | http://www.dwheeler.com/essays/software-patents.html A lot of good stuff you can use | Jun 02 22:51 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Does anyone have any recommendations for a 2nd hand !Android phone? (yr old ot so) I like buying 2nd hand. Thinking of Samsung Galaxy? | Jun 02 22:51 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Asus to ship #Ubuntu netbooks http://is.gd/bd13LY finding a unity with OEMs | Jun 02 22:51 | |
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Chips_B_Malroy | Mr. Wheeler did a lot of documentation | Jun 02 22:52 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] A quantum take on certainty : Nature News "iconic double-slit experiment, uncertainty can be eased" http://ping.fm/Yv0df | Jun 02 22:56 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @windigo: @fabsh @jonkulp is in a whale? Outlaws, ASSEMBLE! | Jun 02 22:56 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @fabsh @silner Buying HDDs second hand is madness IMHO. They don't travel well. | Jun 02 23:05 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Bill Keller has stepped down as editor in chief of the New York Times to concentrate on writing about Julian Assange's dirty socks (again). | Jun 02 23:05 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @fabsh I meant I buy 2nd hand devices; computers, phones etc, always have done, all except food and shoes in fact | Jun 02 23:06 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "seems that IBM and the ASF are encouraging individuals from the LibreOffice world to sign on as 'Initial Committers'" http://is.gd/OqUDNf | Jun 02 23:20 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @jezra: @windigo This is a great excuse for MS/skype to change the protocol and only release an updated Win/Mac client. | Jun 02 23:23 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Linux's 'Killer Feature': Impossible to Choose Just One http://is.gd/zg1bp5 #gnu #linux | Jun 02 23:23 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @schestowitz Linux's 'Killer Feature': Impossible to Choose Just One http://is.gd/zg1bp5 #gnu #linux | Jun 02 23:25 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @reality: need to stay awake | Jun 02 23:46 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Houdini Roadshow is the shits! | Jun 02 23:48 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Why YouTube Adopting Creative Commons Is a Big Deal http://ping.fm/35f7I | Jun 02 23:53 | |
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