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sebsebsebThistleWeb: or maybe it could be quite basic,  just saying computer help basically, and they ring up or whatever, and then we talk about what they want and what I could do and so on?Jun 27 00:00
ThistleWebthe other side of that is if you mention linux, most people won't have a clue what it is so they won;'t callJun 27 00:00
ThistleWebmy approach is always to try to fix windows 1st, while talking about linuxJun 27 00:00
sebsebsebyeah you done this kind of thing as wellJun 27 00:01
ThistleWeband if they're interested in what I'm talking about, I offer to dual boot and a repeat visit, phone number etc to ask questionsJun 27 00:01
cubezzzright but are people just going to endless pay and pay and pay to fix their windows over and over and over again?Jun 27 00:01
sebsebsebcubezzz: ah, but if I am to honest likeJun 27 00:01
sebsebsebno I am not really a PC pro, but I can help with this and thatJun 27 00:01
sebsebsebwould  they even want to pay something to me hmmJun 27 00:02
sebsebsebthe two guys in 2007 that I helped, well I did something first, and then got paid a bit basicalelyJun 27 00:02
cubezzzthey need education more than just fixing shitty windows problemsJun 27 00:02
ThistleWebthat's one argument I make, "linux goes against my financial interests because it won't mean you have to call me often and apay me often, but I use it, I beliebe it's the best for users and it will be in YOUR interests"Jun 27 00:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] @jankusanagi and yeah, see the whole discussion *tree* (nudge, wink). you might find it entertaining. :)Jun 27 00:02
cubezzzso anyways, my customers always get bothJun 27 00:03
sebsebsebcubezzz: Computer repair and education, phone for more details?Jun 27 00:03
cubezzzunless they are BSD then they will not touch windowsJun 27 00:03
cubezzzsimple as thatJun 27 00:03
cubezzzsebsebseb, sure, why not?Jun 27 00:03
sebsebsebThistleWeb: would yoou provide a email address on a advert?  or only phone?Jun 27 00:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] @rysiek I'd like that too. As I said before, AFAIK it's not possible yet in !Choqok due to API limitationsJun 27 00:04
cubezzzyou have to gauge your customersJun 27 00:04
cubezzzit's a mixed bagJun 27 00:04
ThistleWeba dumbphone number I don't use for anything else, so I can switch it offJun 27 00:04
sebsebsebcubezzz: this would just be a thingi if I am doing it, I don't expect to be able to make a proper living from itJun 27 00:05
sebsebsebThistleWeb: a dumbphone number?Jun 27 00:05
ThistleWebyes, not my regular android phomneJun 27 00:05
cubezzzespecially customers with very old computers!Jun 27 00:05
ThistleWeba prepay nokia phoneJun 27 00:05
cubezzzthey could really like Linux a lotJun 27 00:05
sebsebsebThistleWeb: ok so you do this as a sside thing?  or is this your job?Jun 27 00:06
ThistleWebit's a concentric circles thingJun 27 00:07
cubezzzone guy hired me to tutor him in C language...Jun 27 00:07
cubezzzlots of ways to make moneyJun 27 00:07
sebsebsebThistleWeb: what's that?Jun 27 00:07
ThistleWebhave one way of contact to random members of the public, but an additional one that can be offered to people when it's suitable, at your discretionJun 27 00:08
sebsebsebdo I need a proper name for thisJun 27 00:08
sebsebsebor Sebatiann's  computer help and education or whatever would do it?Jun 27 00:08
sebsebsebcubezzz: ThistleWeb  I guess it's worth a try, do a basic advert, and wiat, and if get one that is happy, they may recommend to others as wellJun 27 00:09
ThistleWebso you may switch off the phone belonging to the number on the advert at 5pm, but you can give selected people your proper number that's not switched off until a lot laterJun 27 00:09
sebsebseboh right I seeJun 27 00:09
cubezzzyeah otherwise you could end up always on callJun 27 00:10
cubezzzsome jobs are like that thoughJun 27 00:10
ThistleWebthat way it's not random joes calling at all hours, but it gives that special treatment to paying customersJun 27 00:10
sebsebsebThistleWeb: cubezzz  another issue I don't have a driivng ilsence at the moment, so yep can only do rather localJun 27 00:10
ThistleWebit's up to you to decide whether or not to allow that person into a new circle of contactJun 27 00:11
ThistleWebif you get a nightmare customer, you don't mention itJun 27 00:12
ThistleWebif you get someone you want to go that extra mile for, you doJun 27 00:12
cubezzzlike a Linux customer :)Jun 27 00:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Booting up Puppy to set up a new partition table.Jun 27 00:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] @jankusanagi wait, don't answer that! as soon as he gets an on-topic answer, he'll say he's bored, like he did with me! ;)Jun 27 00:12
ThistleWebeither way they ahve the basic dumbphone number for you that you can switch off without affecting your regular communicationJun 27 00:12
ThistleWebexactly, like a linux customer, or someone open to exploring linuxJun 27 00:13
cubezzzsebsebseb, how old are you?Jun 27 00:13
ThistleWebI got an unlocked Nokia dumbphone for £20 that works a treat for thatJun 27 00:15
ThistleWebit's very basic but it works for what it's intended for, the battery life is tremendous too, compared to smartphoneJun 27 00:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] @rysiek probably :D But still, @jargon, !Qt and !KDE libs have nice ways of showing all kinds of things. Why do u find it hard to believe?Jun 27 00:16
ThistleWebconcentric circles of contact is a good way to work  for a lot of things, it allows you to control how people can contact youJun 27 00:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] @jankusanagi oh come ooon! you've just ruined the show for the rest of us! ;)Jun 27 00:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] !Microsoft tech is stuffed onto nearly every PC in the shops, don't let them assimilate the UK "white space" too: http://tinyurl.com/3v8vgrdJun 27 00:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] @rysiek you're right, I'm sorry ^^Jun 27 00:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft to test white-space spectrum for wireless | Wireless - CNET News .::. Size~: 95.23 KBJun 27 00:17
cubezzzanwyays using other operating systems is a lot less boringJun 27 00:20
ThistleWebsadly, if you wanna do freelance pc fixing, the vast majority of your time with it, will be windowJun 27 00:21
ThistleWebwindows*Jun 27 00:21
cubezzzI have a number of *nix customersJun 27 00:21
cubezzz*nix customers buy hardwareJun 27 00:21
ThistleWebso it's always worth keeping up the windows skillz, even if you don't choose to use it yourselfJun 27 00:22
_Goblinthats an excellent point and despite peoples better experiences that are well documented with Linux, its very good to be diverse in computing skill.  Microsoft advocacy does not though permit the same openness.Jun 27 00:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] @jankusanagi oh oh! I know! tell him there's more space in window without url bar and back/next browser controls! and the tree view in #Qt!Jun 27 00:26
cubezzzI like to give people the option of no windows taxJun 27 00:26
cubezzzand explain the situation that they are all being forced to pay this taxJun 27 00:26
ThistleWebI do too, but I'm always aware that I'm there to fix windows, so thats my priority, fix windows but advocate linux at the same timeJun 27 00:27
cubezzz...compounded by the frequent windows screws upsJun 27 00:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Selected packages to be installed. !Fedora 15 installation starting now...Jun 27 00:27
_Goblincubezzz: unfortunately Microsoft tax is hard to escape and being an Android HTC user shows that even when you are completely removed from Microsoft, they still get a cut of the riches.Jun 27 00:28
cubezzzsome of this is transcended by the hardware, if the hardware dies it hardly matters which OS is runningJun 27 00:28
cubezzz_Goblin, no problem, I have a ton of white-box PCsJun 27 00:28
cubezzzfor every range of budget :)Jun 27 00:28
_Goblindon't let Ballmer hear.....he'll be around with a legal threat....Jun 27 00:29
cubezzzand a number of used laptops tooJun 27 00:29
_GoblinMicrosoft would take the pennies out of a begging mans bowl if they could claim patent infringement.Jun 27 00:29
cubezzzall laptops come with dual boot, very handy to haveJun 27 00:29
cubezzzwell they are predatory billionaires...Jun 27 00:30
cubezzzthey aren't nice guysJun 27 00:30
cubezzzyou would be surprised, people are using Linux, even locally hereJun 27 00:31
cubezzzToronto has a couple of Linux jobs... even Whitby has oneJun 27 00:31
sebsebsebThistleWeb: yeah indeed there to fix  Windows really, but whilst trying to get them to at least try Linux some how as well :DJun 27 00:31
cubezzzyes, they also sell windows PCs, but they have Linux/BSD on displayJun 27 00:32
cubezzzsorry, I mean Linux shops not jobs, they have jobs too :)Jun 27 00:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] @jankusanagi @lnxwalt280 this is exciting! /me grabs some pop corn ;)Jun 27 00:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] 2083 packages to be installed.Jun 27 00:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] RT @rms Foreign maids working in Saudi Arabia are effectively slaves, <http://ur1.ca/4jhsi>Jun 27 00:34
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cubezzzStallman's generousity counter-balances Gates' greedJun 27 00:34
cubezzzat least I hope it doesJun 27 00:34
ThistleWebI'm not the first person who's spent hour fighting with Windows (usually XP) only to feel dirty doing it, to dream of coming home to use Linux, I won't be the lastJun 27 00:34
ThistleWebhours*Jun 27 00:34
cubezzzI better get some air, catch you all in 1/2 hour..Jun 27 00:35
sebsebsebThistleWeb: freelancer hmm yeahJun 27 00:36
sebsebsebThistleWeb: in my case, I think at first anyway, I would want to do  the, ok i'll come to your house and  look at your computer, if happy enough, you can pay something if you wantJun 27 00:36
ThistleWebjust sayin, if you freelance at all, you're working with windows mostly, no matter how much you hate it, it's about the customerJun 27 00:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] RT @rms village women in India have been trained as solar engineers to set up solar power systems in their villages. <http://ur1.ca/4jhyl>Jun 27 00:39
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schestowitz[23:09] <_Goblin> Im sure kRoy and kRusty know what I mean.... ;)Jun 27 00:40
_GoblinThistleWeb: I suppose you could force them to use Linux, break it then repair it..... a sort of proactive freelancer.Jun 27 00:40
schestowitzheh. krustyJun 27 00:41
ThistleWeblolJun 27 00:41
_Goblinyeah.....Jun 27 00:41
_Goblinnoticed that.....Jun 27 00:41
schestowitz<sebsebseb> _Goblin: what your recommending I pirate WIndows 7?Jun 27 00:44
schestowitzLOLJun 27 00:44
schestowitzhe said "Pirate"Jun 27 00:44
_Goblin"Pirate" would suggest booty.....Jun 27 00:44
schestowitzsebsebseb=ArrArrArrJun 27 00:44
_Goblintheres no booty to be had with Windows 7Jun 27 00:44
_Goblinlike I said before, I wouldn't download it for free.Jun 27 00:44
schestowitz<_Goblin> schestowitz: big ask time......if I send you a couple of photos again, can you add your artistic flair to them and see if you can come up with a logo for Byte.me?  Ive all but given up trying to be PIcasso.Jun 27 00:45
schestowitzsureJun 27 00:45
_Goblincheers I have two images I would like sort of merged into something creative...I'll trust your artistic flair....Jun 27 00:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] oh jeez, Godfather 3 is keeping me on the tips of my toes! holy cow, is this film great!Jun 27 00:47
schestowitz<cubezzz> did Munich really go back to windows?Jun 27 00:48
schestowitz<sebsebseb> yep I think they went backJun 27 00:48
schestowitznopeJun 27 00:48
schestowitz_Goblin: flare?Jun 27 00:48
_Goblinthat aswellJun 27 00:48
schestowitzRickJun 27 00:48
_GoblinIve just been talking WWE in COLA....so I'm think Ric FlairJun 27 00:48
schestowitzis it Ric really?Jun 27 00:49
_GoblinI think Ric is his real first name....the surname though is stage name.Jun 27 00:49
schestowitzhttp://www.google.com/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=artistic+flair&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8#sclient=psy&hl=en&client=ubuntu&hs=4eK&channel=fs&source=hp&q=artistic+flare&aq=f&aqi=g2g-sv1g-v2&aql=&oq=&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=cfd4938828d57dcb&biw=1920&bih=1074Jun 27 00:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: artistic flair - Google Search .::. Size~: 89.03 KBJun 27 00:49
schestowitzhttp://www.google.com/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=artistic+flair&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8Jun 27 00:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: artistic flair - Google Search .::. Size~: 94.03 KBJun 27 00:49
schestowitzArtistic BlairJun 27 00:50
schestowitz!google ric flare deadJun 27 00:51
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Ric Flair - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ric_FlairJun 27 00:51
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Another Pro Wrestler Found Dead Days Before Benoit Murder-Suicide ... | http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,287182,00.htmlJun 27 00:51
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - YouTube - The Death of Ric Flair | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3D-46QddV3_lIJun 27 00:51
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Dead or Alive? - Ric Flair | http://www.deadoraliveinfo.com/dead.nsf/fnames-nf/flair%2BricJun 27 00:51
_GoblinRic is not dead.Jun 27 00:52
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJXW2MOLxI0&feature=relatedJun 27 00:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: YouTube         - ‪Tribute to Wrestlers that have died.‬‏ .::. Size~: 110.31 KBJun 27 00:52
_Goblinhe is still very much alive......Jun 27 00:52
schestowitzSteroids are killing many of them, thoughJun 27 00:52
_Goblinlast appeared in TNA.Jun 27 00:52
schestowitz_Goblin: I didn't keep trackJun 27 00:52
schestowitzBritish Bulldog is long deadJun 27 00:52
_Goblinshame on you! ;(Jun 27 00:52
schestowitzGorilla Moonsoon is dead?Jun 27 00:53
schestowitzDidn't know...Jun 27 00:53
_GoblinyepJun 27 00:53
_Goblina few years ago nowJun 27 00:53
*gnufreex has quit (Remote host closed the connection)Jun 27 00:53
_GoblinMean Gene is still aboutJun 27 00:54
_Goblinso, I believe is Lord Afred.Jun 27 00:54
schestowitzBAm Bam BigelowJun 27 00:54
schestowitzdead..Jun 27 00:54
schestowitzSo many of themJun 27 00:54
schestowitzIn their 30s and 40sJun 27 00:54
_Goblinthe wrestling comments in COLA started after me and Homer made fun of a Microsofts advocates sporting claims by making our own outragous claims of sporting achievments....Jun 27 00:55
schestowitzttolls do sportsJun 27 00:57
schestowitzWhat types?Jun 27 00:57
schestowitzStone flinging?Jun 27 00:57
schestowitz[trolls]Jun 27 00:57
schestowitzthey can't even fling themJun 27 00:58
schestowitzThe myths say hey just roll them down a hill or something, maybe onto a bridgeJun 27 00:58
schestowitz!google college humor youtube trollJun 27 00:58
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - YouTube - Internet Bridge Troll | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DFMEe7JqBgvgJun 27 00:58
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - YouTube - TROLL | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DWKXy9u3H1bMJun 27 00:58
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - YouTube - Troll On The Loose | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3D2jhMMBGkxUoJun 27 00:58
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Internet Bridge Troll - CollegeHumor Video | http://www.collegehumor.com/video/5817726/internet-bridge-trollJun 27 00:58
_Goblinno...it appears sports that play with balls are a favourite amongst Microsoft Advocates.Jun 27 00:58
_GoblinGolf and Tennis apparently....Jun 27 00:59
schestowitzMicrosoft Advocates love ballsJun 27 00:59
_Goblinquite what a MS troll thinks that will contribute to Linux advocacy is anyones guess....but hey, they advocate windows so their mindset is already unfathomable.Jun 27 01:00
schestowitzI'll resume in COLA tomorrowJun 27 01:00
_Goblinyou missed a great quote of mine, I'm going to have to use in the future....Jun 27 01:00
schestowitzI ought to have returned earlier actuallyJun 27 01:00
_Goblin" Microsoft would take the pennies out of a begging mans bowl if they could claim patent infringement."Jun 27 01:01
schestowitzCOLA used to have a wrestling fanJun 27 01:01
schestowitzBearItAllJun 27 01:01
_GoblinlolJun 27 01:01
schestowitzBritish lad from YorkshireJun 27 01:01
_GoblinI take it thats a joke..?Jun 27 01:01
schestowitzLet me see if his site still existsJun 27 01:01
schestowitzhttp://www.google.com/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=bearitall&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8#sclient=psy&hl=en&client=ubuntu&hs=EXf&channel=fs&source=hp&q=bearitall+linux&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=cfd4938828d57dcb&biw=1920&bih=1049Jun 27 01:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: bearitall - Google Search .::. Size~: 84.78 KBJun 27 01:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] 1888 out of 2083 packages installed.Jun 27 01:02
schestowitzI forgot his full nameJun 27 01:03
schestowitzBut he had a site with wrestling photosJun 27 01:03
_GoblinohJun 27 01:03
_GoblinI thought you were jokingJun 27 01:03
_Goblin"Bear it all"Jun 27 01:04
_GoblinWrestling and hairy men.....(bear) I was expecting a punchlineJun 27 01:04
schestowitzBack come the mmemoriesJun 27 01:04
schestowitz"Blinky the Shark"Jun 27 01:04
schestowitzhttp://www.unixresources.net/linux/lf/47/archive/00/00/14/55/145526-2.htmlJun 27 01:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux is anything but free - UNIX Resources Network .::. Size~: 79.55 KBJun 27 01:04
schestowitzhttp://www.law.com/jsp/cc/PubArticleCC.jsp?id=1202497344598&Facebooks_GC_is_Making_Patents_a_PriorityJun 27 01:10
TechrightsBot-trTitle: At Facebook, Learning to Like Patents .::. Size~: 79.92 KBJun 27 01:10
schestowitzhttp://www.thevarguy.com/2011/06/15/can-red-hat-score-two-more-victories/comment-page-1/Jun 27 01:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Can Red Hat Score Two More Victories? | The VAR Guy .::. Size~: 75.29 KBJun 27 01:11
schestowitzI can guess by the headline+ style alone whom wrote this...Jun 27 01:11
_Goblinschestowitz: Ive just sent you two images....scrub that pirate flag one...I have a better one...if you don't mind, I'll send that now.Jun 27 01:12
schestowitzhttp://www.cmswire.com/cms/enterprise-20/enterprise-20-rollup-why-a-smaller-community-is-better-011644.phpJun 27 01:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Enterprise 2.0 Roll-up: Why a Smaller Community is Better .::. Size~: 75.98 KBJun 27 01:14
schestowitz"However, a recent report from Forrester Research suggests Office2010 sales have been hit by competitors. After looking at a number of them, including Google, Zoho, IBM and Novell, the research specifically concludes that many enterprises are putting off purchasing MS Office upgrades while they try out other things, many of which are offered on free trial basis."Jun 27 01:14
schestowitz_Goblin: alrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrightJun 27 01:15
_Goblingood manJun 27 01:17
_GoblinI'll credit you......or maybe you won't want me to when you see the direction Byte.me takes.Jun 27 01:17
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schestowitz_Goblin: : byte me!Jun 27 01:18
schestowitzI'll send you an ACK (3 bytes)Jun 27 01:18
_Goblin:)Jun 27 01:19
_GoblinI've got a feeling the show will get me into alot of trouble...... It'll be damn fun though.Jun 27 01:19
schestowitz"So, Tim, what's your show's name?"Jun 27 01:19
schestowitz"Wot? I was asking politely"Jun 27 01:19
schestowitzPrince Me and the Royal Albert Hall music themeJun 27 01:20
_GoblinByte.meJun 27 01:21
schestowitzhttp://www.thevarguy.com/2011/06/16/canonical-ubuntu-server-embracing-arm-architectures/comment-page-1/Jun 27 01:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Canonical: Ubuntu Server Embracing ARM Architectures | The VAR Guy .::. Size~: 74.8 KBJun 27 01:21
schestowitzFunny thing about VAR Guy is...Jun 27 01:21
schestowitzHis avatar looks like AononOpsJun 27 01:22
cubezzzwho is the var guy anyway?Jun 27 01:22
schestowitzHe predates them AFAIKJun 27 01:22
_Goblinbut the intro music is important for two reasons....a/ the nautical theme, b/ the irony between ruling the waves and piracy.Jun 27 01:22
schestowitzcubezzz: JoeJun 27 01:22
schestowitzwho speaks of himself as a third personJun 27 01:23
*FellowTraveler (~Adium@gw3.tacwap.org) has joined #techrightsJun 27 01:23
schestowitzI message him a bit sometimesJun 27 01:23
cubezzzdoes he respond?Jun 27 01:23
schestowitzIIRC, he started itJun 27 01:23
schestowitzHowdy, FellowTravelerJun 27 01:23
_Goblinin the third person? Like the Rock?Jun 27 01:23
FellowTravelerHello.Jun 27 01:23
_GoblinGoblin says this.....Jun 27 01:23
schestowitzcubezzz: yes, alwaysJun 27 01:23
cubezzzI wouldn't think you two were on the same pageJun 27 01:23
_GoblinHello fellow traveller.Jun 27 01:24
schestowitzThe Boycott Novell thing is opposite of his inclinations thoughJun 27 01:24
FellowTravelerI am a coder for people's freedom and I am in search of a java programmer to do a few important pieces for me. The work is very important and the time is shorter than you think.Jun 27 01:24
_Goblinsort of makes IRC look like a MUD with a handle like that.Jun 27 01:24
_GoblinTalk fellow travellerJun 27 01:24
_Goblinfollow fellow traveller north.Jun 27 01:24
FellowTravelerIs there anyone here with java skills willing to help out?  Also C or C++ or D would be useful.Jun 27 01:25
_Goblinwow...Jun 27 01:25
_Goblintheres quick recruiting then theres that.Jun 27 01:25
FellowTravelerThis is my project:  https://github.com/FellowTraveler/Open-Transactions/wiki   There are diagrams, and a radio interview there and other articles.Jun 27 01:25
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FellowTravelerMy goal is to provide fully untraceable cash in a decentralized way, with destruction of account history, ricardian contracts, chaumian blinding, bitcoin integration, ripple integration, etcJun 27 01:26
FellowTravelerI have already produced the library, the protocol, the server, the client API, and I've already paid a java coder to write a Java client out of my own pocketJun 27 01:26
FellowTravelerIs there anyone with java skills willing to pitch in and help protect people's property rights?Jun 27 01:27
_Goblinbest of luck with your project..... Unless you are in need of a rusty 68k asm coder....I wont apply.Jun 27 01:27
FellowTravelerI will tell you exactly what is needed, and all the parts are easy.Jun 27 01:27
FellowTravelera trained monkey could do it.Jun 27 01:27
_GoblinI have a list of people that could help then..... ;)Jun 27 01:27
cubezzz_Goblin, I need some amiga games decompiled :)Jun 27 01:28
FellowTravelerI need someone to add a few screens to my existing Java client.  (Markets, basket currencies, etc the API is already done)  I also need someone to port that code to an Android client.Jun 27 01:28
_GoblinIve got some very old cracktro code, I think it was for Op WolfJun 27 01:28
FellowTravelerI also need someone to write a command-line client based on the API, so we can start scripting.  And then someone can take that code and put it into a firefox plugin so on OT URI format can be used in HTML codeJun 27 01:29
_Goblinhave disks and disks of src....keep meaning to achive it before the 3.5"rs go the journeyJun 27 01:29
FellowTraveleronce that is working, that same code will be adaptable to replace the DNS system.Jun 27 01:29
cubezzzsome of my 3.5 diskettes still work, all the high quality ones survivedJun 27 01:29
cubezzzall the el cheapo ones have errorsJun 27 01:29
FellowTravelerI can already demonstrate currency issuance, and ricardian contracts, and destruction of acct history, and untraceable cash.Jun 27 01:29
FellowTravelerI just need helper coders around the peripheral areas.Jun 27 01:30
FellowTravelerI've made the API available in C, C++, D, Java, Ruby, PHP, Perl, and Python, and I've already ported all the code to Android, FreeBSD, Linux, MacOSX, and Windows.Jun 27 01:30
_GoblinI though Amiga floppys were cheapo by definition and were failed 1.4mb floppies.....Jun 27 01:30
_Goblin*thoughtJun 27 01:30
FellowTravelerIf anyone is interested, or knows anyone who is interested, please email me:  fellowtraveler@rayservers.net  and hopefully we can get this done before it's too late.Jun 27 01:31
cubezzzno, the magnetic coerivity is lowerJun 27 01:31
_Goblinbest of luck with it....Jun 27 01:31
cubezzzcoercivityJun 27 01:31
_Goblintoo late? what will happen?Jun 27 01:31
cubezzzand dsdd predates hd Jun 27 01:31
FellowTravelersoon it will be illegal to author such softwareJun 27 01:31
FellowTravelerand since powers the be already must know who I am, I will have to stop at that time.Jun 27 01:32
FellowTravelerthis is my gift so that hopefully others will use it.  Freedom is something you must stand for, or lose.Jun 27 01:32
_Goblin"Freedom is something you must stand for, or lose." - Can't argue with you there.Jun 27 01:32
_GoblinUnless of course you stand alone, then its pointless.Jun 27 01:33
FellowTravelerEuropean union is already moving to outlaw the authoring and possession of such software. When that happens, programmers will become licensed, and there will be a "list" of forbidden software just like there is with other contrabandJun 27 01:33
cubezzzI stand alone.... with kernel 2.2 :)Jun 27 01:33
FellowTravelerWhen that happens, viruses will be on the list first, then digital cash will come shortly thereafterJun 27 01:33
cubezzzsometimes I stand alone with Plan 9 thoughJun 27 01:33
_GoblinI think I need a smoke....Jun 27 01:33
_Goblinmaybe the world will be clearer when I return.Jun 27 01:33
FellowTravelerIn case people think I'm being extreme:  http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/06/14/making_hacking_tools_should_be_criminal_act_say_eu_ministers/Jun 27 01:34
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FellowTravelerremember they already license doctors and taxi drivers, and dogs, and marriages.Jun 27 01:34
_GoblinI hope Roy, allows this executive decision of mine.....Jun 27 01:34
*_Goblin gives channel operator status to cubezzzJun 27 01:34
cubezzzhow can you really stop anyone writing a hacking tool?Jun 27 01:34
_GoblinCubezzz i'll leave this to you.Jun 27 01:34
cubezzzokey dokeyJun 27 01:34
FellowTravelerBecause if you know who they are, you can put them in jail.Jun 27 01:34
FellowTravelerAnd since I'm sure my identity is known, I will have to stop.Jun 27 01:34
cubezzzhow would they know you wrote it?Jun 27 01:35
cubezzzdeCSS is still aroundJun 27 01:35
FellowTravelerlet's do all that we can now to get it written. Why sit here asking questions when we have the power to fix the financial system?Jun 27 01:35
FellowTravelerConsider the costs of the current system:  inflation, debt, income taxes to pay the interest on the debt, wars financed by the debt, economic misallocation due to fascism made possible by monopoly of banking system, etc.Jun 27 01:36
FellowTravelerMy project integrates very well with Bitcoin, the two together are nearly unstoppable. And my project also makes it easy to convert in and out of other currencies on markets.Jun 27 01:37
FellowTravelerand to withdraw in untraceable cash, etc.Jun 27 01:37
FellowTravelerI thought of doing this once, 12 years ago, and I didn't.  Now I am awake again and nothing has happened since then, except maybe Bitcoin.  If I get hit by a bus tomorrow, will you let things wait another 12 years?Jun 27 01:38
FellowTravelerWill today's western man, fat and lazy from all of his luxury and indulgence, awake too late, to find the empire of the west has crumbled around him along with its culture?Jun 27 01:39
cubezzzthere was some kind of barter system before...Jun 27 01:40
cubezzzforget the site nowJun 27 01:40
FellowTravelerThere is no other system that does these things.Jun 27 01:40
cubezzzFellowTraveler, this is something I'd have to study firstJun 27 01:41
ThistleWebFellowTraveler: set up a site laying it all outJun 27 01:42
FellowTravelerCool, please do so.  You know how to reach me.Jun 27 01:42
FellowTravelerThistleWeb: https://github.com/FellowTraveler/Open-Transactions/wikiJun 27 01:42
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cubezzzone can't pay their bills with digital money AFAIKJun 27 01:42
cubezzzThistleWeb, you know about bitcoin?Jun 27 01:43
ThistleWebyesJun 27 01:43
cubezzzyou can convert it to real money I assume?Jun 27 01:43
ThistleWebno ideaJun 27 01:44
schestowitzreal?Jun 27 01:44
schestowitzAs in, money created by debt?Jun 27 01:44
cubezzzwell bankable money, whatever you wish to call it :)Jun 27 01:44
schestowitzReal money is an asset like goldJun 27 01:44
cubezzzwe talked about this before... :)Jun 27 01:44
schestowitz:-)Jun 27 01:44
cubezzzyou can't eat gold Jun 27 01:44
ThistleWebyou can use it as currency to pay for things you'd otherwise need regular currency to pay forJun 27 01:44
schestowitzcubezzz: can't eat those notes from one's momma eitherJun 27 01:45
schestowitzMaybe you couldJun 27 01:45
schestowitzBut it's not even good paperJun 27 01:45
cubezzzplastic now Jun 27 01:45
schestowitzAnd it has metal ribbons in itJun 27 01:45
schestowitzYou'd probably throw upJun 27 01:45
cubezzzwe switched to plastic money recently :)Jun 27 01:45
schestowitzBut..Jun 27 01:45
schestowitzYou can make cu out the metal partJun 27 01:45
schestowitzBut money doesn't have many nutrientsJun 27 01:45
cubezzzyou can buy food at the grocery store thoughJun 27 01:45
schestowitzAnd our stomach softened over time, due to reverse evolution of sortsJun 27 01:46
ThistleWebnot yetJun 27 01:46
ThistleWebit's "one to watch" rather than "one to switch to"Jun 27 01:46
cubezzzyesJun 27 01:46
ThistleWebI like the idea but it's not convinced me as yetJun 27 01:46
ThistleWebI hope the idea takes offJun 27 01:47
cubezzzgold as value, it doesn't corrodeJun 27 01:47
cubezzzit's usefulJun 27 01:47
cubezzzI can't eat my computer either, and it's still useful :)Jun 27 01:47
_Goblinoh...Jun 27 01:47
_Goblinhe's gone I seeJun 27 01:47
ThistleWebso far you can pay for some services but it's nowhere near the norm yetJun 27 01:47
cubezzzpaypal is digital tooJun 27 01:48
cubezzzbut based on "real" moneyJun 27 01:48
_Goblin"Will today's western man, fat and lazy from all of his luxury and indulgence, awake too late, to find the empire of the west has crumbled around him along with its culture?" - Who was he talking about? Ballmer?Jun 27 01:48
schestowitzcubezzz: you can sell your computer for moneyJun 27 01:48
schestowitzJust as you can hand over cash for foodJun 27 01:48
schestowitzSame thingJun 27 01:48
cubezzzsure, boy would I ever get a lot for my 1998 server :)Jun 27 01:48
schestowitzComputer heavier and less redeemable by fewer shopsJun 27 01:49
ThistleWebpaypal is just "a bank" or "an account" it's not it's own currencyJun 27 01:49
schestowitzBut still, you can use the PC for food (via money usually)Jun 27 01:49
ThistleWebbitcoin is it';s own currencyJun 27 01:49
cubezzzcomputers lose their value pretty fast thoughJun 27 01:49
cubezzzat least gold mostly retains it's valueJun 27 01:49
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/swapnilbhartiya/status/85056107260821506Jun 27 01:50
TechrightsBot-tr@swapnilbhartiya: @schestowitz is it OK if we repost your stuff on our FB page? We need to intensify fight against patents and FUD.Jun 27 01:50
schestowitzI would appreciate thatJun 27 01:50
cubezzzThistleWeb, on the bitcoin wiki page it indicates that their are exchangers that can convert bitcoins into actual moneyJun 27 01:50
cubezzza bit like a foreign exchangeJun 27 01:51
_GoblinGreat email I just recieved:Jun 27 01:51
_Goblin"Dear Gmail User, We detected an unsuccessful login attempt from an unfamiliar location. For the security of your account, kindly Re-Login Below"Jun 27 01:51
cubezzzfake?Jun 27 01:51
_GoblinyepJun 27 01:52
cubezzzof course :)Jun 27 01:52
ThistleWebcubezzz: I don't doubt it, it is a currrency, so the usual currency rules would apply, including exchange, eventuallyJun 27 01:52
_Goblinan unfamiliar location...?Jun 27 01:52
cubezzz"Dear Gmail User" but not your real nameJun 27 01:52
_Goblinwell if it was unsuccessful then it doesnt matter....these scammers don't think through their scams very wellJun 27 01:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Don't RT this. http://i.imgur.com/8aeNa.jpgJun 27 01:52
ThistleWebthe sitting room?Jun 27 01:52
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cubezzzscam FAILJun 27 01:52
_GoblinThats like getting a note through your door saying:Jun 27 01:53
_Goblin"Dear Homeowner, We tried to burgle your house earlier but couldn't get in, please leave the keys in the door and we'll call back later."Jun 27 01:53
cubezzzevidently wikileaks uses bitcoinsJun 27 01:53
cubezzzhahaJun 27 01:53
ThistleWeb"an uncomfortable position" aka " the back seat of a voltswagen" #mallratsJun 27 01:53
schestowitz_Goblin: notice the music http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_lvvQ1_BHw&feature=relatedJun 27 01:54
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cubezzz"No major retailer accepts bitcoins as payment"Jun 27 01:54
ThistleWebyetJun 27 01:55
ThistleWebit's something new right noewJun 27 01:55
_Goblinschestowitz: It would make a suitable piece for Microsoft Advocates......Jun 27 01:55
schestowitz_Goblin: so Crush dued too?Jun 27 01:55
ThistleWebit;s also a new concept, as well as a new currencyJun 27 01:55
schestowitzparadigm :)Jun 27 01:55
_Goblinthe Chris Beniot tribute is a little dodgy.Jun 27 01:56
schestowitz_Goblin: they are bit Nucrisift advocatesJun 27 01:56
_GoblinI believe he killed his family before committing suicide.Jun 27 01:56
schestowitzThey are anti-Linux bulliesJun 27 01:56
schestowitz*Microsoft (keyboard was way off there)Jun 27 01:56
cubezzzI don't use control keys, I use freedom keys!! ;-)Jun 27 01:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @zahra: 'morning, life. -- Morning @zahra. BTW this is *not* life talking :)Jun 27 01:57
schestowitzBig Boss ManJun 27 01:58
schestowitzI know someone who's like that..Jun 27 01:58
cubezzz41...Jun 27 01:59
cubezzzwrestling is a rather unhealthy vocationJun 27 01:59
schestowitzgnJun 27 02:00
schestowitzcubezzz: dependsJun 27 02:00
schestowitzwhat type of wrestlingJun 27 02:00
schestowitzgreco-roman would be OKJun 27 02:00
cubezzzwell, trueJun 27 02:00
_Goblinkeeping in the wrestling theme and the fact that I get much attention from the Microsoft Advocates...I have my tribute video....Jun 27 02:00
schestowitzAnd it's regulated for drugsJun 27 02:00
schestowitzMy dad was a wrestler, and a very good oneJun 27 02:00
schestowitzgnJun 27 02:00
_Goblinhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ocVNtTsm-AJun 27 02:00
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_GoblinIts often been noted in COLA that I seem to turn the Wintrolls on.....Jun 27 02:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] ♺ @schestowitz: Don't RT this. http://i.imgur.com/8aeNa.jpgJun 27 02:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] RT @schestowitz Don't RT this. http://i.imgur.com/8aeNa.jpgJun 27 02:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Right, thats me done for the evening.....Jun 27 02:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Asher_Wolf Asher Wolf rd @Asher_Wolf RT @ltdanchoi: I am Bradley Manning. yfrog.com/hsulyfrj !WikileaksJun 27 03:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] sleep well @gamerchick02Jun 27 03:32
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DaemonFChttp://www.cnn.com/2011/US/06/26/florida.tsa.incident/http://www.cnn.com/2011/US/06/26/florida.tsa.incident/Jun 27 03:48
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DaemonFC"The Transportation Security Administration stood by its security officers Sunday after a Florida woman complained that her cancer-stricken, 95-year-old mother was patted down and forced to remove her adult diaper while going through security."Jun 27 03:48
DaemonFC:)Jun 27 03:48
DaemonFCdiaper bomb or colostomy bag?Jun 27 03:48
DaemonFCTAKE HER DOWN!!!!Jun 27 03:48
DaemonFCOMG, IT WAS AWFUL, THAT SHIT WENT FLYING EVERYWHERE!!!Jun 27 03:49
DaemonFCWar on AARPJun 27 03:49
DaemonFCGrannies at Gitmo, hard bitten terrorists or wrongly detained senior citizens being held without charge?Jun 27 03:52
DaemonFCThis 95 year old man ran his car into a crowd of people and then claimed he had forgotten which pedal was the accelerator and which was the brake. But we know he was really on a mission from his evil God.Jun 27 03:53
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DaemonFCNot the kind merciful benevolent loving God, his bipolar manic alter ego that wants to slice babies in halfJun 27 03:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @shaundakin The !Privacy Daily is out! http://paper.li/tag/privacyJun 27 04:27
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DaemonFChttp://www.ibtimes.com/articles/169753/20110626/michele-bachmann-says-flake-label-is-insulting.htmJun 27 05:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] #TSA stands by officers after pat-down of elderly woman in Florida This makes me angry: http://ur1.ca/4jm92 Why do you stand for this?Jun 27 07:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Right. Got phpMyAdmin running. Yay!Jun 27 07:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Still locked out of phpMyAdmin thoughJun 27 07:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[funtoo/@funtoo] let's see if I can get nCdy to tweet with quorraJun 27 07:07
DaemonFCI wonder what kind of a pervert at the TSA likes frisking old ladies and making them stand there and remove their diaperJun 27 07:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[funtoo/@funtoo] testing 123Jun 27 07:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[funtoo/@funtoo] testing 456Jun 27 07:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Reading http://danlynch.org/blog/2011/06/ubuntu/Jun 27 07:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] LOL @methoddan's Unity screenshots definitely have a personal touch. What a messy desktop! :DJun 27 07:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] "The wisdom of this decision is still not clear to me. The Canonical one I mean, not JFK." Classic @methoddan quote. LOL :DJun 27 07:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] http://outl.ws/25 - @methoddan manages to show in one screenshot why the global menu is a terrible UX idea.Jun 27 07:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Dan describing the default Ubuntu One & Software Center icons in Unity and how you "can remove them" just reminds me of Windows....Jun 27 07:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] "I generally like docks, not just because I live in Liverpool." LOL. He's on fire....Jun 27 07:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Fedora 15 Virt manager bridged networking http://bit.ly/iLWo58 #gnu #linux #fedora #virtualizationJun 27 07:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] http://outl.ws/26 - Sweet mother! The Ubuntu One team needs to sort this mess out. WTF!? Did someone hand in a barfed napkin as a mockup? OoJun 27 07:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] That is the worst UI I've seen in ages. OoJun 27 07:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Motorola Phones | SouthernLINC Adds Two New Motorola Phones To PTT Line-up http://dlvr.it/XxPHD #motorolaJun 27 07:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] pacman -SyuJun 27 07:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @MeeGoExperts: DTMF generator address book plugin http://mge.bz/d6 #Nokia #N900 #MaemoJun 27 07:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @MeeGoExperts: How to set up MeeGo Harmattan development environment in Linux | Comments, Code and Qt. : http://mge.bz/d8Jun 27 07:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] TechBytes Episode 52: Rusty, Tim, and Roy on GNU/Linux Desktops http://ur1.ca/4jmtr !TBJun 27 07:56
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schestowitzmorning..Jun 27 07:57
schestowitzover 30 degrees her today...Jun 27 07:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @quimgil: The four wheels spinning MeeGo 1.2 Harmattan http://bit.ly/j5ZK1JJun 27 07:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @My_Maemo: Abook-DTMF for the N900 - generates DTMF tones from Contacts: http://My-MeeGo.com/?p=7346 #N900 #MaemoJun 27 07:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @My_Maemo: Enhanced Lockscreen for N900 - additional functionality and customization, including music play... http://My-MeeGo.com/?p=7348Jun 27 08:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @My_Maemo: Tv Player - streamed television channels player for the N900 http://My-MeeGo.com/?p=7349 #N900 #MaemoJun 27 08:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @achipa: New #N9 sayings - #WhenInDoubtSwipe and #IfThatDidntHelpThenPinch. cafepress et al rights reserved :)Jun 27 08:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Only in China? [IMG] http://i.imgur.com/BJW7A.jpgJun 27 08:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Maria Tănase, povestea cenzurată http://tinyurl.com/6zxdygb #tanase #romania #espionage #music #folklore #wwiiJun 27 08:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Lesson for spammers: Don't favour my notices. I don't like you, you fucking arseholes. FIRE THE NUKES!!!Jun 27 08:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] http://outl.ws/27 -- so who ever decided that updating software was unmanageable for businesses? Sounds to me you're just MS's FUD bitch.Jun 27 08:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Opera Founder Jon S. von Tetzchner Resigns Over Differences With Board http://ur1.ca/4j25nJun 27 08:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Oh my God, Lewis.... Look who's ouside the window! Oo !LO #Minecraft http://ur1.ca/4jn4xJun 27 08:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The #SliTaz Experience http://ur1.ca/4jn52 "So definitely go and give it a try, it’s worth at least that!"Jun 27 08:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Nokia should abandon the mole, Microsoft's top investor Elop, not #Linux and !MeeGo http://ur1.ca/4jn5iJun 27 08:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Should Mozilla Ditch The Rapid Release Cycle Again? http://ur1.ca/4jn5l shouldn't Chrome? New versions are not a *bad* thing.Jun 27 08:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] An In-Depth Look at !Fedora 15 http://ur1.ca/4jn5q "giving you the best cutting-edge software and tools Linux has to offer"Jun 27 08:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #nD, New $10 Gaming Handheld Device Claimed to be more Powerful than Nintendo DS, Runs Custom Embedded #Linux Firmware http://ur1.ca/4jn6rJun 27 08:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] So I guess I should really loose some weight. http://is.gd/1geIUT #Diabetes "cure" by starving. No I don't have diabetes ATM, but am in riskJun 27 09:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Arduino and Fedora. yum install arduino. That's it. Happy hacking. #FedoraRocksJun 27 09:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Is there any country on this planete without debt? IMHO debt makes us all "slaves" of the financial system. </sarcasm>Jun 27 09:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Olympic committee gives 2012 athletes permission to Tweet - http://tnw.co/mx9kcp not that I really care...Jun 27 09:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Jesus Christ. I'm starting to go grey and I'm not even 30....Jun 27 09:11
MinceRgeekingsJun 27 09:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Microsoft May Add #Eavesdropping To #Skype - http://bit.ly/j1RtxS patented, too (v @williamheath @daveaitel @infosecmaven)Jun 27 09:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft May Add Eavesdropping To Skype  | ConceivablyTech .::. Size~: 40.16 KBJun 27 09:16
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/77379971Jun 27 09:18
TechrightsBot-tr@Dagan McGregor (ardrigh)'s status on Monday, 27-Jun-11 08:16:01 UTC - Identi.ca: Have to agree ♺ @schestowitz: Nokia should abandon the mole, Microsoft's top investor Elop, not #Linux and #MeeGo http://ur1.ca/4jn5iJun 27 09:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] A rather poor effect (IMHO) explaining what "Linux Ubuntu" is http://ur1.ca/4jnc3 (Why I Use Linux Ubuntu)Jun 27 09:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Outside the desktop, #Microsoft usually falls into the "misc./other" category (HPC, phones, tablets). What on Earth was Nokia doing?Desktop?Jun 27 09:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] When making a phone operating system or putting together a large server (like HPC) one needs to have darn good excuse *not* to use #LinuxJun 27 09:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Whenever you need to go in debt to buy something, you don't buy it. Your bank buys it. #justsayinJun 27 09:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #PhilipMorris sues over plans to ban logos from #cigarette packets - http://bit.ly/k3k7FQ "diminishes the value of their #trademarks"; scumJun 27 09:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Fedora 15's finally running beautifully. Beautifully, I tell ya.Jun 27 09:24
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Philip Morris sues over Australian plans to ban logos from cigarette packets | World news | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 92.71 KBJun 27 09:24
schestowitzhttp://i.imgur.com/7Noq8.jpgJun 27 09:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] This is kinda cool.Jun 27 09:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Kerala Moved to GNU/Linux, Completely Abandoned Windows http://ur1.ca/4jned #gnu #linux #india #freedom #educationJun 27 09:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Hindu : Sci-Tech / Internet : Free or open source for students? .::. Size~: 42.46 KBJun 27 09:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Overtaken http://i.imgur.com/yumsj.gif new and wonderfulJun 27 09:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] Good article on the #AVM #GPLviolation case on #groklaw http://ur1.ca/4jnep !fsfe !fs !gnuJun 27 09:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "The Nokia N9 [...] getting rave reviews even from the likes of engadget" http://ur1.ca/4jnf7 #MeeGo So Good That Microsoft Had to Kill ItJun 27 09:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] "Oracle’s Profit Rises, but Weak Hardware Sales Are Worrisome" http://is.gd/0Ne1AH #nuffsaidJun 27 09:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] RD @schestowitz: #Kerala Moved to GNU/Linux, Completely Abandoned Windows http://ur1.ca/4jned #gnu #linux #india #freedom #educationJun 27 09:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !Fedora 14 vs #Ubuntu 10.10: Death Match http://ur1.ca/4jngu a bit, old but... !playoggJun 27 09:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Lifetime access to up-to-date info—is this the future of the textbook? - http://bit.ly/lGMItQ careful: this is the sw model for knowledgeJun 27 09:42
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schestowitzhttp://i.imgur.com/JacGz.jpgJun 27 09:44
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/77381473 https://identi.ca/notice/77381531Jun 27 09:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] @fabsh: so we just let the tobacco companies make billions out of people's suffering, while increasing health costs enormously?Jun 27 09:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Even if #unity is liked by brand new #gnu #linux users, #Canonical relies on geeks promoting it to friends/family.If they don't like unity..Jun 27 09:46
schestowitzhttp://example.orgJun 27 09:46
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schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/77381473 https://identi.ca/notice/77381531Jun 27 09:46
TechrightsBot-tr@kronik's status on Monday, 27-Jun-11 08:34:04 UTC - Identi.ca: #car #LOL > http://is.gd/mpn10P > Watch: #overtaken via @schestowitz #awesomeJun 27 09:46
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TechrightsBot-tr@kronik's status on Monday, 27-Jun-11 08:35:11 UTC - Identi.ca: #overtaken is mad @schestowitz! Thanks for sharing. =8^)Jun 27 09:46
schestowitzOdd... connectivity cockupJun 27 09:46
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAux354gTjE&feature=digest_fri,7-99:digestJun 27 09:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle: YouTube         - ‪YouTube, Blip.tv, Adsense, Trials, Tribulations, and the Future... Wow, that's a lot.‬‏ .::. Size~: 117.2 KBJun 27 09:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] A new approach to printing metals - http://bit.ly/lJ1RT6 the big one... #3dprinting #reprapJun 27 09:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Musing about unheralded heroes and heroines and accidental criminals and IPR - http://bit.ly/kohez3 nice meditation on insane systemJun 27 09:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] Mozilla Releases Firefox 5, Already Retires Version 4 http://lxnews.org/2011/06/27/mozilla-releases-firefox-5/Jun 27 09:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Musing about unheralded heroes and heroines and accidental criminals and IPR – confused of calcutta .::. Size~: 41.21 KBJun 27 09:54
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MinceRnazis take another step towards fundamentalism in hungaristan >> http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=hu&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Findex.hu%2Fbelfold%2F2011%2F06%2F27%2Felkuldik_kecelrol_a_nem_katolikus_gyerekeket%2F   http://index.hu/belfold/2011/06/27/elkuldik_kecelrol_a_nem_katolikus_gyerekeket/Jun 27 09:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !Android Community • by Cory Gunther • CyanogenMod 7.1 RC now available for Download http://ping.fm/N8jBIJun 27 10:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Updating to CyanogenMod 7.1 RCJun 27 10:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 27/6/2011: Wine 1.3.23, KDE 4.7 RC http://ur1.ca/4jnog !techrightsJun 27 10:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Links 27/6/2011: Wine 1.3.23, KDE 4.7 RC http://ur1.ca/4jnog #techrightsJun 27 10:07
TechrightsBot-trTitle: CyanogenMod 7.1 RC now available for Download | Android Community .::. Size~: 48.18 KBJun 27 10:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] Mageia Working on ARM Port http://lxnews.org/2011/06/27/mageia-arm-port/Jun 27 10:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] @fabsh: well, you don't see the latter spending billions on marketing...Jun 27 10:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Mageia Working on ARM Port /by @fabsh http://ping.fm/rS1OGJun 27 10:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] ♻ @silner !Fedora 15 Virt manager bridged networking | Shadows of epiphany http://ping.fm/PCPOWJun 27 10:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] ♺ @linuxmagNL: Een back-up up to date houden met een rsync script - SNT Linux cursus - http://ow.ly/5qSIGJun 27 10:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: SNT Linux cursus .::. Size~: 83.54 KBJun 27 10:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] Karen Sandler Becomes Executive Director of Gnome http://lxnews.org/2011/06/27/karen-sandler-executive-director-gnome/Jun 27 10:24
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Karen Sandler Becomes Executive Director of Gnome .::. Size~: 28.79 KBJun 27 10:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] bizarre: an API with opening hours - http://bit.ly/ijm3WK they're doin' it wrong... (v @dirkriehle @stilkov @JoergM) #germanyJun 27 10:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] @fabsh: so banning their logo won't make much difference; a government boycott, though...Jun 27 10:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Lodsys at it again, hits another !Android developer with patent infringement welcome package. http://ping.fm/lMqxcJun 27 10:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] RT @schestowitz !TechBytes Episode 52: Desktop Environments and the Demise of Ubuntu http://ur1.ca/4je6p the notes for the show: http:// ...Jun 27 10:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @fabsh Steve Jobs is a fucking annoying arsehole. He alone is reason enough for me to never buy another Apple device.Jun 27 10:46
DaemonFChttp://www.reuters.com/article/2011/06/27/us-opera-idUSTRE75Q12820110627Jun 27 10:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Opera founder to keep shares despite exit | Reuters .::. Size~: 75.75 KBJun 27 10:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] @fabsh: nobody said it would be easy...Jun 27 10:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] RIP @chavezchandaga. Viva la revolucion!Jun 27 10:47
DaemonFChttp://www.reuters.com/article/2011/06/27/us-fastfood-ads-idUSTRE75Q0K820110627Jun 27 10:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ban fast food ads on TV: U.S. doctors | Reuters .::. Size~: 81.73 KBJun 27 10:48
DaemonFCMinceR, Rat burger?Jun 27 10:48
DaemonFCwant some salt with that?Jun 27 10:48
DaemonFChave a cigaretteJun 27 10:48
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DaemonFCthis is probably being considered because of the same reason cigarette companies pushed for the ban on advertising their own productsJun 27 10:49
DaemonFCif nobody can advertise, nobody has to outspend the competition on advertisingJun 27 10:49
DaemonFCsales don't fall much and they all save a ton of moneyJun 27 10:50
DaemonFCif this gets rammed through it won't have much effect on the obesity rate just as the cigarette ad ban didn't stop anyone from smokingJun 27 10:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Internet Evolution - Jart Armin - Hackers Take Note: Cyber-Insurance Is on the Rise http://ping.fm/uYfhHJun 27 10:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @schestowitz #Kerala Moved to GNU/Linux, Completely Abandoned Windows http://ur1.ca/4jned #gnu #linux #india #freedom #educationJun 27 10:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Hindu : Sci-Tech / Internet : Free or open source for students? .::. Size~: 42.46 KBJun 27 10:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I'm not entirely sure why the "hackers" should worry about insurance rates but why spoil a nice headline :)Jun 27 10:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] "#AVM trying to spread #FUD about the #Cybits case" http://ur1.ca/4jnyo by @laforge !fsfe !fs !gnuJun 27 11:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Alan #Ayckbourn archive to be available to the public - http://bit.ly/mbJdG9 fab: the future of scholarship #theatreJun 27 11:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Is there intelligent life out there? - No definitely not. Apparently UFO's are trying to make contact with the !BBC ! http://is.gd/bVWvuAJun 27 11:02
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: UFOs filmed above BBC building in London  | Mail Online .::. Size~: 82.83 KBJun 27 11:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Genetic editing cures hemophilia - http://bit.ly/kQJmRG amazing what a bit of cut and paste can do #dna #genomicsJun 27 11:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Genetic editing cures hemophilia | TG Daily .::. Size~: 54.28 KBJun 27 11:16
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_Gobliniophk: Hello!Jun 27 11:20
*ChanServ gives channel operator status to _GoblinJun 27 11:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] ♻ @silner !Android Community • by Cory Gunther • CyanogenMod 7.1 RC now available for Download http://ping.fm/N8jBIJun 27 11:21
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iophk_Goblin: helloJun 27 11:30
_Goblin:)Jun 27 11:30
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_GoblinTheres only three handles Ive never spoken with....yours is one..... Hi!Jun 27 11:30
iophkWhyJun 27 11:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Opportunistic journalists cash in on WikiLeaks rights. Meanwhile WikiLeaks still blocked by VISA, MasterCard http://t.co/Ix3c8pZJun 27 11:32
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_Goblinnot sure......but since its a morning with nothing for me to do thought I'd take the opportunity to try and at least say hello to those Ive never spoken withJun 27 11:32
_GoblinHi there bentkus: don't believe I've said hello to you before.Jun 27 11:36
_Goblinand finally.....Jun 27 11:40
_Goblinzoobab: Hi!Jun 27 11:40
_Goblinhopefully one of you will respond back...Jun 27 11:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Apple under fire for censoring Palestinian news, WikiLeaks http://t.co/cPt60VbJun 27 11:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] RT @exiledsurfer @wikileaks Don't be a prisoner. http://t.co/bWBhR9B #plato @telecomixJun 27 11:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] RT @schestowitz Don't RT this. http://i.imgur.com/8aeNa.jpgJun 27 11:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Apple under fire for pulling Intifada app - IOL SciTech | IOL.co.za .::. Size~: 68.72 KBJun 27 11:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Nice. Firefox updated to Version 5 on my Fedora 15 machine.Jun 27 11:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @glynmoody #Microsoft May Add #Eavesdropping To #Skype - http://bit.ly/j1RtxS patented, too (v @williamheath @daveaitel @infosecmaven)Jun 27 11:45
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft May Add Eavesdropping To Skype  | ConceivablyTech .::. Size~: 40.25 KBJun 27 11:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Taking a break from uni work with #Yogscast, coffee and Jaffa Cakes.Jun 27 11:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] hmm, it appears my iwlagn is dying. FML.Jun 27 11:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] The End Of LulzSec Is Not The End Of Hactivism - http://is.gd/c098eHJun 27 11:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The End Of LulzSec Is Not The End Of Hactivism | Techdirt .::. Size~: 33.85 KBJun 27 11:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] OpenOffice și LibreOffice http://www.businessmagazin.ro/opinii/openoffice-si-libreoffice-8353424 #romania #libreoffice #odf #ooo #openofficeJun 27 11:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] Please update my new number - (+91) 82 87 09 09 30. remove old one.Jun 27 12:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] "Where there's blame, there's a claim!" ROFL #YogscastJun 27 12:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] National Lampoons Microsoft Vacation - http://is.gd/z6H4zx - Trust your holiday to Microsoft Streets? lol. !microsoft !failJun 27 12:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Make the Journey Part of the Vacation With Microsoft Streets & Trips: Majesty and wonder in your own backyard: Plan a road trip to a nearby national park this summer. .::. Size~: 44.47 KBJun 27 12:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @qtbynokia: The #Qt Blog - Qt-apps.org mobile app porting contest – the winners http://ow.ly/1dtthdJun 27 12:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Qt-apps.org mobile app porting contest – the winners — The Qt Blog .::. Size~: 55.2 KBJun 27 12:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @dandart Where can I get those "designed for !Ubuntu" stickers?Jun 27 12:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Diritto d'autore: Il controllo spetta al giudice - http://bit.ly/mC6i1l "ché la diritta via era smarrita" (v @PaoloBrini) #censorshipJun 27 12:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Diritto d'autore  Il controllo spetta al giudice - LASTAMPA.it .::. Size~: 86.17 KBJun 27 12:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] New play about Assange is the worst kind of pedestrian garbage. Everyone else: create alternatives http://t.co/I47fOY9Jun 27 12:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Failed Experiment of Software Patents - http://bit.ly/lmojEp learning from #Oracle's outrageous demand, and the past #swpatsJun 27 12:12
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oiaohmRight note to self before trigging a major X11 update download instructions to install video card drivers first.Jun 27 12:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] RD @glynmoody: The Failed Experiment of Software Patents http://bit.ly/lmojEp learning from #Oracle's outrageous demand and the past #swpatsJun 27 12:19
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iophkhiJun 27 12:20
_GoblinAnother cracking email just recieved:Jun 27 12:21
_Goblin"RE: TRANSFER OF US$15.200.000 00 MILLION TO YOUR ACCOUNT.  I feel quite safe dealing with you in this important business."Jun 27 12:22
_GoblinI'm glad one of us feels safe.Jun 27 12:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Blood and Treasure - http://bit.ly/mtHsG9 tales of greed, genocide & ecocide in Papua New Guinea? (v @Asher_Wolf @mpesce)Jun 27 12:22
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MinceR:>Jun 27 12:22
_GoblinAnd another just popped through....Jun 27 12:23
_Goblin"£1m Has Been Awarded To Your ID In The British Telecom Cash Promo, Provide Us Your..."Jun 27 12:23
_GoblinI'm rich (again)Jun 27 12:23
_GoblinRight....screw you guys...I'm off with my new riches to go and be a patent trollJun 27 12:23
MinceRlolJun 27 12:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Let's create a new Acronym - #PTAAS Patent Trolling As A Service. Patently cool by French authorities. NOT. http://is.gd/8NROjhJun 27 12:24
TechrightsBot-trTitle: France launches government-backed patent agency » telecoms.com – telecoms industry news, analysis and opinion .::. Size~: 68.65 KBJun 27 12:24
_GoblinI'm going to patent the concept of having keys with vowels on your keyboard.Jun 27 12:24
_Goblin£5 a vowelJun 27 12:24
_Goblinby my reckoning Mincer you already owe me a fiver.Jun 27 12:25
MinceRand i'll continue owing youJun 27 12:25
MinceR:>Jun 27 12:25
_GoblinI'll cut you a deal....sign this piece of paper and I'll only charge you £5 a sentence.....please Mincer help me to validate my patent claim without having to go through the courts.Jun 27 12:26
oiaohm_Goblin: If TRANSFER OF US$15.200.000 00 MILLION TO YOUR ACCOUNT. comes into one of my spam trap accouts.  I normally have the fun of playing for proff of identity.Jun 27 12:26
oiaohm_Goblin: Photo with local paper and something else stupid I can think up.Jun 27 12:27
MinceR_Goblin: sure thing. but i need you to cover some costs of the money transfer in advance...Jun 27 12:27
_Goblinyeah I sometimes wind them up.....they are not very bright so silly names go over their heads......in many ways they remind me of the Microsoft advocates in COLA.Jun 27 12:27
oiaohmOf course there is a reason why I play proff of idenity once they send it to me I send to to the local police in that area.Jun 27 12:28
oiaohmYes they are still dumb enough to fall for doing lets convict self.Jun 27 12:28
_Goblinthere is a site which winds them up and publishes the results.....I wish I could remember its name...theres been some cracking ones on there.Jun 27 12:29
oiaohm_Goblin: those are the ones he does himselfJun 27 12:30
_GoblinI love the scams that start "I write to you with tears and sorrow in my heart"Jun 27 12:30
oiaohmI do mine for send to jail reasons so never published.Jun 27 12:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] London Mural Preservation Society's Blog - http://bit.ly/kFXTuB "Working to Protect, Preserve and Celebrate #Murals in #London": delightfulJun 27 12:30
TechrightsBot-trTitle: London Mural Preservation Society's Blog | Working to Protect, Preserve and Celebrate Murals in London .::. Size~: 76.11 KBJun 27 12:30
oiaohmBest one for being warped was the photo must be taken with an exact 33.3 degree tilt.  _GoblinJun 27 12:31
oiaohmI got 12 photos out the person before they worked out I was pulling their leg.Jun 27 12:31
_Goblingood effort!Jun 27 12:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] How Tower Bridge Will Look For The #Olympics - http://bit.ly/kmFFlV totally naff, in other wordsJun 27 12:32
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oiaohm_Goblin: Really I stopped getting photos when the person got caught.Jun 27 12:33
oiaohm_Goblin: By the first photo they had sent me.Jun 27 12:34
oiaohmYes local area news paper is kinda  key to limit it down.Jun 27 12:34
oiaohmIe they worked out by police catching them.Jun 27 12:35
_GoblinThese scammers never seem to learn.  I can only assume there are still stupid users who fall for them.Jun 27 12:35
oiaohmYes because people are still not educated in scamsJun 27 12:36
oiaohmBecause if they were the policical people would have more problems.Jun 27 12:36
_Goblintrue.Jun 27 12:36
oiaohmReally they are more worried about items like sex texting.Jun 27 12:37
oiaohmThan scan prevention.Jun 27 12:37
_Goblina/s/l ?Jun 27 12:38
oiaohmReally both are a form of a scam.  You have to be really dumb in this day and age to thing a electronic image is safe from being used against you.Jun 27 12:38
_Goblin;)Jun 27 12:38
_Goblinyou know, a year or so ago I would have disagreed with you strongly.Jun 27 12:39
_Goblinnow....Jun 27 12:39
_GoblinI've given up.....sink the lot of them.Jun 27 12:39
_GoblinI'll live by my own rules.....Jun 27 12:39
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oiaohm_Goblin: Most of the photos I take are human free.Jun 27 12:44
_GoblinIt takes a very brave person to dare to take a camera into a public place....theres a plethora of things you can be accused of.Jun 27 12:45
_GoblinWhen did we loose the plot and who is to blame?Jun 27 12:45
oiaohmyet you see people taking photos with mobile phones in the same area not being looked twice at.Jun 27 12:47
_Goblin"ahh but people commit crimes with camera's........." - People also drink drive, lets also stop everyone from driving........Jun 27 12:47
_Goblininfact lets just ban everything, put our brains into a jar and sit on a table.Jun 27 12:47
oiaohmReally Lets stop everyone from driving might happen.Jun 27 12:47
oiaohmOnce cars can drive self.Jun 27 12:48
_Goblinor petrol gets any higherJun 27 12:48
oiaohmNo petrol will not stop people from driving.Jun 27 12:48
_Goblinprobably not....Jun 27 12:48
oiaohmAir cars and electric will just become more common.Jun 27 12:48
_Goblinyeah...Ive seen those electric cars...Jun 27 12:49
oiaohmNow what I wonder is who is going to be the first terrorist to use a self drive car/truck to deliever a bomb.Jun 27 12:49
_GoblinI'll stick with my AudiJun 27 12:50
oiaohmIssue here it avoids the need for people with death wish.Jun 27 12:50
_Goblinoiaohm: if we are talking about risks like that, I'd be more worried about cars running with Windows.....can you imagine the pileups as they BSOD at 90mphJun 27 12:50
oiaohm_Goblin: google has done the first working self driveJun 27 12:51
oiaohmSo you can guess what is insideJun 27 12:51
_Goblinor get stuffed with porn malware and take you to the local brothel when you wanted to go to churchJun 27 12:51
oiaohmLinuxJun 27 12:51
oiaohmThere have been a few tries at windows based self drivesJun 27 12:51
oiaohmAll of them have ended up doing really bad things.Jun 27 12:51
_Goblinlol....Jun 27 12:52
_GoblinI can imagineJun 27 12:52
oiaohmNote not BSOD's.Jun 27 12:52
oiaohmWindows deciding to lag at 90 mphJun 27 12:52
_Goblindid they drive at Google employees saying in a robotic ballmer voice "I'm going to f'''kin bury Google"Jun 27 12:52
oiaohmYou don't need to be a sleep long behind the wheel to be in very big reason.Jun 27 12:52
oiaohmreason/troubleJun 27 12:53
oiaohm_Goblin: You think about it using windows it lags.Jun 27 12:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Episode 05 Cyberunions Talk Show http://t.co/RcIMFjj !cyberunions #freesoftwareandunionismJun 27 12:54
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oiaohmWhen it gets under heavy load in highly un predictable ways.Jun 27 12:54
oiaohmBest was the one written in .netJun 27 12:54
oiaohmYes .net does not have pointer issues.Jun 27 12:54
oiaohmBut boy can it have a object leak problem and run out of memory.Jun 27 12:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] the Mint forums are as responsive as ever :(Jun 27 13:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Meeting with Minister Boni and Mr Boratynski from European Comission, on network filtering of child porn. Hard arguments, hard discussion.Jun 27 13:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Been working on a map of our Minecraft server! How does it look? http://ur1.ca/4josu (cc @tdfischer @caity_did @willbradley @codeblock)Jun 27 13:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Granted, that's just the rail routes ;)Jun 27 13:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kernellogauthor/@kernellogauthor] #linux #kernel 3.0-rc4: Reported #regressions: From 2.6.39 http://bit.ly/k5FqgL ; 2.6.38 -> 2.6.39 http://bit.ly/m0zHCzJun 27 13:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #WebUpd8: Nord: A Beautiful Glassy !GNOME Shell Theme http://goo.gl/HVj3KJun 27 13:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Strange graphic mixing up hackers and crackers - http://www.gadgetsandgizmos.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/hackers.jpgJun 27 13:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] RT @lxnews Mozilla Releases Firefox 5, Already Retires Version 4 http://lxnews.org/2011/06/27/mozilla-releases-firefox-5/Jun 27 13:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] RT @lxnews Mageia Working on ARM Port http://lxnews.org/2011/06/27/mageia-arm-port/Jun 27 13:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] RT @lxnews Karen Sandler Becomes Executive Director of Gnome http://lxnews.org/2011/06/27/karen-sandler-executive-director-gnome/Jun 27 13:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] In case I forget this: "could care less" was used in 1959 Mike Hammer episode "Requiem for a Sucker"Jun 27 13:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Paul Tagliamonte: The Official !Ubuntu Book, Sixth Edition http://goo.gl/scji9Jun 27 13:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !Google fine leads to suspension of paid !Android downloads in Taiwan http://ping.fm/F05prJun 27 13:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] if #FUDCon is about growing a local community then definitely #China is a better candidateJun 27 13:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Jonathan Thomas: #Muon Suite 1.2 Beta 2 released http://goo.gl/hZPb6 !kubuntuJun 27 13:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Raphaël Hertzog: People behind !Debian: Sam Hartman, Kerberos package maintainer http://goo.gl/IcgMJJun 27 13:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Ah, never mind, Ben #Zimmer notes a 1955 usage has been found: http://www.visualthesaurus.com/cm/wordroutes/2009/Jun 27 13:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Film #piracy battle heads to court - http://bit.ly/iuC4V9 industry trying really hard to drive everyone to encrypted links and proxiesJun 27 13:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @meegoblog: Nokia N950 hits FCC, leaks impressive camera specs http://nowskip.to/imjs6MJun 27 13:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @frals: RT @kypeli: First time hands on with the #N9. Seeing is beliving: yes it's that good :-)Jun 27 13:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Hollywood Force ISP To Use #ChildAbuse Filter Against File-Sharing Site - http://bit.ly/lp9Dyk function creep, just as we all predictedJun 27 13:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Replies from Ed Vaizey MP - http://bit.ly/jZiqiO some movement, but we need to write to MPs to get wider consultationJun 27 13:52
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iophkTridentica: " if the pressure to “extend the scope” of  Cleanfeed became too great, BT would cancel the project. BT has made no  recent public comment to that effct in connection with this current  action by the MPA.'Jun 27 13:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #WebUpd8: New Screenlets Version (0.1.4) Brings !Ubuntu 11.04 Fixes, AppIndicator Support http://goo.gl/VK7KrJun 27 13:57
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schestowitzInterestingJun 27 14:00
schestowitzI was just talking to this girl about BTJun 27 14:00
schestowitzThey are screwing her on billJun 27 14:00
schestowitzbillsJun 27 14:00
schestowitzGet this:Jun 27 14:00
schestowitzIf you use the phone line, they charge youJun 27 14:00
schestowitzIf you don't, you must pay a fineJun 27 14:01
schestowitzSo people here sometimes need to make bunk calls just to avoid those finesJun 27 14:01
schestowitzHow can BT get away with this?Jun 27 14:01
schestowitzThe good thing is, one of my jobs requires that I use the phone a little, so no fines for me. But many people have free calls on their cellular.Jun 27 14:01
schestowitz_Goblin: hi!Jun 27 14:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Protecting Valuable Intellectual Property in Octave - http://bit.ly/m23ejj what a sad little post #intellectualmonopoliesJun 27 14:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] EU Council fights open decision making - http://bit.ly/jouQaP oi, Mr Cameron: what happened to your pledge for greater #transparency?Jun 27 14:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] lol! http://www.humorsphere.com/fun/8787/colortest.swfJun 27 14:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Rumor: #Baidu MobileOS Coming By Year-End - http://bit.ly/k7Ny9y interesting: based on #android #linuxJun 27 14:02
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schestowitzNice to see you on Tuesday tooJun 27 14:02
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schestowitzwe can record now if you wantJun 27 14:02
schestowitz_Goblin: zoobab is the president of the FFIIJun 27 14:03
schestowitzWe are very gratified to have him hereJun 27 14:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] EU Council fights open decision making - http://t.co/YGFb1B1 oi, Mr Cameron: what happened to your pledge for greater #transparency?Jun 27 14:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Hmm... Do not try to install the cube in Natty using clickitis mode without running Docky first or you will be using Clonezilla. #UbuntuJun 27 14:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The shale gas lobby’s new strategy: Indoctrinate children with coloring books - http://bit.ly/lLXEfs "your friendly fracosaurus" #frackingJun 27 14:04
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schestowitz_Goblin: [since you mentiond him]Jun 27 14:04
schestowitz_Goblin: let me know if you can record before 6, even a short oneJun 27 14:05
schestowitzI wrote 5 blog posts in the sun, now time to unleash :-)Jun 27 14:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laforge/@laforge] why does #ebay keep nagging me to give feedback on auctions to which even the seller-specified shipping time has not been reached yet?Jun 27 14:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] The only thing I lost was Tom and Jerry wallpaper.Jun 27 14:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] 16 Year Old Faces Multiple Years in Prison for Linking to Copyrighted Material - more over-the-top bullying "pour encourager les autres" #czJun 27 14:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Creating a citizen movement for open government | http://red.ht/jV3s6H #Gov20 #CityCamp #collaborationJun 27 14:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] 16 Year Old Faces Multiple Years in Prison for Linking to Copyrighted Material - http://bit.ly/mK1wH8 "pour encourager les autres" #czJun 27 14:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #DrPepper sounds like some twisted torturer named after his speciality, he knows lots of ways to use pepper to make you hurt ;PJun 27 14:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Awesome! http://www.youtube.com/user/marinshakespeare#p/u/4/DwHjd_gfm_g #Taming #PiratesJun 27 14:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] China seems pretty popular nowadays; unlike !Cuba. I wonder why? #moneytrumpsideologyJun 27 14:25
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/77392529Jun 27 14:32
TechrightsBot-tr@Goblin (openbytes)'s status on Monday, 27-Jun-11 10:39:47 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Thats a fair comment and maybe a hinderance to Desktop Linux..its always relied on "geeks" for promotion....Jun 27 14:32
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/77392632Jun 27 14:32
TechrightsBot-tr@Goblin (openbytes)'s status on Monday, 27-Jun-11 10:41:22 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz I wonder what that sign could mean???? lol... ;)Jun 27 14:32
schestowitzrun  it past the PS3 :-)Jun 27 14:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Government of India Increasingly Groks GNU/Linux http://ur1.ca/4jpaa #india #gnu #linux #foss #policy #kerala #freedomJun 27 14:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Government of India Increasingly Groks GNU/Linux http://ur1.ca/4jpaa #odf #standard #driver #edgi #microsoft #lockin #monpolyJun 27 14:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Firefighters free kitten trapped inside a pipe http://is.gd/GMmdhz - things that make you go awwwJun 27 14:32
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/swapnilbhartiya/status/85295416186388480Jun 27 14:32
TechrightsBot-tr@swapnilbhartiya: @schestowitz any idea if Citibank webservers were Windows? Good scoop to expose M$ insecurityJun 27 14:32
schestowitzCiti hates Linux http://techrights.org/2008/09/03/citibank-and-ms/ http://techrights.org/2009/11/01/citigroup-and-tesco-vs-progression/Jun 27 14:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] Nokia Launches N9 MeeGo Phone into Uncertain Future http://lxnews.org/2011/06/27/nokia-launches-n9/Jun 27 14:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Is the #US in #denial over its $14tn #debt? http://is.gd/MaGGdU - not just the USJun 27 14:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] !Miners http://notch.tumblr.com/post/6969771554/back-in-the-office-and-some-words-on-1-7-and-1-8Jun 27 14:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] A new sustainability model: Major funders to support OA journal - http://bit.ly/kgiyNR big; but where does this leave PLoS? #openaccessJun 27 14:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Insurance industry's 'dirty secret' http://is.gd/F9SCpGJun 27 14:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] The Mises Institute covers the #powerofopen: http://bit.ly/jiBoe3 Mises = world center of Austrian School of economics using #CC BY.Jun 27 14:42
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MinceRciti hating gnu+linux is not newJun 27 14:43
MinceRi wouldn't trust them with a centJun 27 14:43
MinceRyou never know when their winblows-based trash collection loses your moneyJun 27 14:43
ender_33they make more money off of debt, but I get youJun 27 14:47
ender_33I wonder how many people got screwed by the,Jun 27 14:47
ender_33themJun 27 14:47
ender_33based on bad microsoft-mathJun 27 14:48
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ender_33I'm an uncle now, my brother just had a kidJun 27 14:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @schestowitz Software Patents Depress Progress, Shows James E. Bessen of Boston University http://ur1.ca/4jg5s #swpats #research #inn ...Jun 27 14:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] How scarce can IPv4 addresses really be if Optimum is selling them in bundles of 5 as an option for their business service?Jun 27 14:54
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schestowitzender_33: join the clubJun 27 14:55
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/swapnilbhartiya/status/85340193099497472Jun 27 14:56
TechrightsBot-tr@swapnilbhartiya: @schestowitz yes. I read that article already. great work there.Jun 27 14:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] The #powerofopen is also launching in London July 1! Join CC & JISC for a discussion on copyright & open innovation http://bit.ly/mPG0gnJun 27 14:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Rights Versus Freedoms http://ur1.ca/4jphp #patents #swpats #ipr #spinJun 27 14:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Guardian journalists cash in on WikiLeaks: chunk of money. Donations from them to WikiLeaks defense: /bin/sh http://t.co/rXgDa9JJun 27 14:57
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ender_33schestowitz: Than againt, some religious people want to impede free speech by making it an offence "to choose to be insulted"Jun 27 14:59
ender_33have you not heard the form of censorship known as 'politically correct'Jun 27 14:59
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ender_33not religiously motivated at allJun 27 14:59
ender_33in fact it was invented to censor some of the religious people who go around hating homosexualsJun 27 15:00
ender_33censorship is not exclusive to anyoneJun 27 15:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Rights Versus Freedoms http://ur1.ca/4jphp #monopoly #propaganda #englishJun 27 15:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] Afghans Build #OpenSource Internet From Trash http://ur1.ca/4j0t4 via #FreedomBox mailing list. #Afghanistan #foss @freedomboxfndnJun 27 15:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] If they [can] create their own internet in a war torn country, what's our excuse [not to]? —Beth Buczynski !q http://ur1.ca/4j0t4Jun 27 15:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] RT @schestowitz Rights Versus Freedoms http://ur1.ca/4jphp #patents #swpats #ipr #spinJun 27 15:04
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ender_33_Goblin - I agree with you regarding the IRC LoggingJun 27 15:06
ender_33_Goblin - I've been quoted out of context and had articles written about me regarding the stuff i've said in hereJun 27 15:08
ender_33_Goblin - I've come to accept i'm being monitored and as a result I do self-censor myselfJun 27 15:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] If #Palestine declares statehood unilaterally in September, it will be following the same path as #Israel in 1948. @rms !q ur1.ca/4jkceJun 27 15:09
ender_33_Goblin - you used to be able to talk freely in the social channel but thats logged now tooJun 27 15:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] RT @lxnews Nokia Launches N9 MeeGo Phone into Uncertain Future http://lxnews.org/2011/06/27/nokia-launches-n9/Jun 27 15:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @trashbird1240 Jimmy Wales: Free Knowledge requires Free Software and Free File Formats http://bit.ly/iFrdfv !fs !gnuJun 27 15:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] "Keep politics out of the show" -- yeah, right. Grow the fuck up and learn to deal with dissenting opinions!Jun 27 15:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] CA modernizes the mainframe with updated stack (Network World): http://bit.ly/m0mV2aJun 27 15:15
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schestowitz_Goblin: http://twitter.com/EvilGoodyGoblin/statuses/85300755120128000Jun 27 15:21
TechrightsBot-tr@EvilGoodyGoblin: _Goblin_ (openbytes)'s status on Monday, 27-Jun-11 10:39:47 UTC. _Goblin_ openbytes. @schestowitz Thats a fair... http://dlvr.it/Y0HmwJun 27 15:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] !linuxlibre 2.6.34.10-libre2-lemote binary .debs for !gnewsense/mipsel !yeeloong now availableJun 27 15:22
schestowitzender_33: if they quote you (in or our of context) they still give you visibilityJun 27 15:22
schestowitzSo I would not worry about it if I were you, unless they tried to use that litigiously or somethingJun 27 15:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] RT @magicfab Cool, *all* Harry Potter books will be available in e-Pub open, free format - http://ur1.ca/4jk9t #fb #in !libre !fsf !faci ...Jun 27 15:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] Harry Potter says "Brilliant!http://bit.ly/jA7u2aJun 27 15:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] Harry Potter says "Brilliant!" http://bit.ly/jA7u2aJun 27 15:24
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ender_33visibility among their coterie - reinforcing their folie àdeuxJun 27 15:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Unity..... unless it is a favourite programme; running one in Unity involves using the keyboard and the mouse. How could it be any worse?Jun 27 15:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] @fabsh No apology necessary! I'm just glad the site is thereJun 27 15:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @x1101: Linux Outlaws:We dont give a fuck!Jun 27 15:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] !LO Seriously.... If you don't like the show, DON'T FUCKING LISTEN TO IT!Jun 27 15:26
ender_33schestowitz - visibility among their coterie - reinforcing their folie àdeuxJun 27 15:26
schestowitzPardon your French? :-)Jun 27 15:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] FabFi: an open source wireless network for $60 per node http://bit.ly/kIWGiT #opensourceJun 27 15:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] In defence of open source http://bit.ly/iHQxmx #opensourceJun 27 15:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] Is updating with !apt as power-hungry and machine-slowing as updating with !yum? !fedora !debian #make_fedora_look_badJun 27 15:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] A window to open source OS http://bit.ly/lbv3XE #opensourceJun 27 15:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Anticompetitive Remote Kill Switches for #Microsoft #Xbox http://ur1.ca/4jptb Xbox 360 continues to lose http://ur1.ca/4jptgJun 27 15:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Anticompetitive Remote Kill Switches for Microsoft Xbox http://ur1.ca/4jptb #Xbox360 continues to lose http://ur1.ca/4jptg #drmJun 27 15:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] Roundup: Birth Defects Caused By World's Top-Selling Weedkiller http://huff.to/l39D77 Not to mention killing all kinds of wildlife...Jun 27 15:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] do #Apple's lawyers have an #iSue app for their #iPhones as a rapid reaction C&D against the merest hint of dissent or exposure?Jun 27 15:32
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DaemonFCschestowitz, Give me some cigarettes.Jun 27 15:33
DaemonFCNot the ones that cause cancer.Jun 27 15:33
DaemonFCGive me a pack that causes low birth weight.Jun 27 15:33
DaemonFCI think I can risk that.Jun 27 15:33
DaemonFCremote kill switch for XBOX 360?Jun 27 15:34
DaemonFCYou mean how Microsoft bans a console and so the people just sell that console to some sucker on Craigslist or to Gamestop Jun 27 15:34
DaemonFCthen when you buy a used console the first thing you find out is that it is banned from XBOX LiveJun 27 15:35
DaemonFC:)Jun 27 15:35
MinceRDaemonFC: regarding your earlier question: "I'm not that hungry." :>Jun 27 15:35
DaemonFC?Jun 27 15:35
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oiaohmDaemonFC: to be techically correct xbox360 design allows them to completely kill it.Jun 27 15:35
DaemonFCMinceR, I was watching Falling Skies earlier Jun 27 15:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] with various options from "patent infringement" "IP violation" "trade secret" as drop in answers, prefills with the contact info from whoisJun 27 15:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] 400+ million CC licensed works, with increasing freedom http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/28041 #powerofopen #metricsJun 27 15:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] "seems to indicate that once creators have experienced the power of open, they want more of it!" http://goo.gl/CeW1q #powerofopen #metricsJun 27 15:35
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DaemonFC"Nobody puts paprika on chicken. What are you? Hungarian!?"Jun 27 15:36
ender_33schestowitz - I saw an episode of Law & Order called 'Follie a deux'Jun 27 15:36
DaemonFC:)Jun 27 15:36
ender_33schestowitz - it kind of stuckJun 27 15:36
abeNd-orgheh, glad i never bothered with xbox360, between RROD & banned-used consoles, not worth itJun 27 15:36
DaemonFCender_33, Law and Order? The one where it's the police and the district attorneys or the one where it's the police and the crown prosecutor and people wear funny wigs?Jun 27 15:37
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DaemonFCB-)Jun 27 15:37
MinceRDaemonFC: ratburgersJun 27 15:37
MinceRhave you played Blood?Jun 27 15:37
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DaemonFCapparently the reason those wigs got started was because of liceJun 27 15:38
DaemonFCpeople would shave their heads and slap on a wigJun 27 15:38
DaemonFCand eventually it became traditionJun 27 15:38
MinceR:>Jun 27 15:39
MinceRpeople do stupid things, especially in the name of tradition (or religion)Jun 27 15:39
abeNd-orgdon't forget to insert office traditions in there as well "why do you do X this way when there are far more efficient ways to do it now?" "I dunno, weve always done it this way"Jun 27 15:40
DaemonFCMinceR, I became disillusioned when I never got my pink pony no matter how hard I prayed to Jesus for oneJun 27 15:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] Five reasons to submit a video in this year's #linux20th contest: http://t.co/2UYHoPU (deadline=July 2, this Saturday!) #linuxJun 27 15:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] OK, let's get the uni work for today out of the way. Catch you all in a bit....Jun 27 15:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] RT @trashbird1240 Jimmy Wales: Free Knowledge requires Free Software and Free File Formats http://bit.ly/iFrdfv !fs !gnuJun 27 15:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Will #OECD serve Hollywood against our Freedoms? - http://bit.ly/ifRBC8 you have one guess #censorshipJun 27 15:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] will #akonadi and #kmail2 work *this* time? I think I solved all the problems... fingers crossed! !kde !chakraJun 27 15:40
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DaemonFCabeNd-org, a lot of the world still wipes their ass with one hand and uses the other to do things like eatJun 27 15:42
DaemonFCdoesn't mean I want to do thatJun 27 15:42
DaemonFCjust because a lot of people do something doesn't make them correctJun 27 15:42
abeNd-orgDaemonFC: now add to that statement plays on their cell phone in the toilet, then leave without washing their handsJun 27 15:44
DaemonFCthere's a lot of people who for whatever reason, be it religion or because they are fat lazy slobs grow a beard that could double as a birds nestJun 27 15:44
DaemonFCI shaveJun 27 15:44
abeNd-orgyay sanitation taught in pre-kJun 27 15:44
DaemonFCabeNd-org, Don't eat the complementary peanuts at the barJun 27 15:45
DaemonFC;)Jun 27 15:45
DaemonFC* complimentary Jun 27 15:45
DaemonFCabeNd-org, There's this thing now where it's getting harder and harder to find bar soap without triclosan in itJun 27 15:45
DaemonFCpeople think that soap doesn't clean them well enough without antimicrobial chemicals in itJun 27 15:46
DaemonFCand that they must scrub themselves head to toe with itJun 27 15:46
DaemonFCall they're actually doing is weakening their immune systemJun 27 15:46
DaemonFCbut the companies that sell this stuff are just responding to a consumer demandJun 27 15:46
DaemonFCthey don't care if it ends up making people sicker or if the chemical itself has ill effectsJun 27 15:47
abeNd-orgyea, humanity will do itself in, not by war, but by something it cant seeJun 27 15:47
abeNd-orgplain'ole'soap is better. Jun 27 15:47
DaemonFCyeah, it got so bad that Walmart stopped carrying the last bar soap that didn't dry my skin out that didn't have triclosan in itJun 27 15:48
abeNd-orgsame with doctors who overprescribe antibiotics Jun 27 15:48
DaemonFCso I had to switch over to body washJun 27 15:48
DaemonFCmeh :PJun 27 15:48
DaemonFCI use triclosan soap on one part of my bodyJun 27 15:48
DaemonFCmy handsJun 27 15:48
DaemonFCreally hands come in contact with everything, they are the one place where antibacterial soap is warranted Jun 27 15:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] What's wrong with talking about politics? If there's something wrong in this world, it's that *not enough* people talk about politics!Jun 27 15:49
DaemonFCabeNd-org, They even put triclosan into toothpaste now Jun 27 15:49
DaemonFCread the label or you could be brushing your teeth with a toxic chemical that has no proven anti-plaque benefitsJun 27 15:50
abeNd-orgthats a new oneJun 27 15:50
DaemonFC"Colgate Total"Jun 27 15:50
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DaemonFCI got a sample of it on the last trip to the dentistJun 27 15:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Shotwell sounds like something you'd hear in a eulogy of a sniper "he lit up the room, literally, as the bullets pinged, he shot well" ;DJun 27 15:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] What #Attachmate Does (or Does Not Do) With OpenSUSE, SCO Case http://ur1.ca/4jq14 #suse #opensuse #gnu #linux #sco #unixJun 27 15:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] What Attachmate Does (or Does Not Do) With OpenSUSE, SCO Case http://ur1.ca/4jq14 #microsoft #ibm #unxis #courtroomJun 27 15:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] okay... my POP3 account got imported, but all mails got marked as unread (all ~3k of them). still, better than the last time. #akonadiJun 27 15:50
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DaemonFCand threw it away when I saw thatJun 27 15:51
DaemonFCthe gimmick is that the triclosan sticks to your teeth for 12 hours and supposedly suppresses germ build upJun 27 15:51
DaemonFCbut people used to drink radioactive water for the health benefitsJun 27 15:52
DaemonFCthere's still a lot of this kind of stuff going around, although maybe not that extremeJun 27 15:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Open Source Big Bang - http://bit.ly/ifE5Tq "I find this continued growth of open source intriguing." indeed #opensourceJun 27 15:52
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DaemonFCthe FDA doesn't bust homeopathic "remedies" because they aren't poison, they consider it a victimless crime and brush it offJun 27 15:53
DaemonFCeven though it stops people from going to a real doctor and getting real medicineJun 27 15:53
DaemonFCI've noticed that a lot of televangelists peddle vitamins and homeopathy now on these religious networksJun 27 15:54
DaemonFCbecause the people with the mindset to accept things without question are already tuned in, why not side market a bit? :)Jun 27 15:54
MinceR:>Jun 27 15:55
schestowitzhomeopathy is real..Jun 27 15:55
schestowitzscam.Jun 27 15:55
DaemonFCMinceR, Pat Robertson's Age Defying Protein PancakesJun 27 15:55
schestowitzIt's trueJun 27 15:55
schestowitzNonsenseJun 27 15:55
schestowitzRead the fine printsJun 27 15:55
DaemonFCMy grandmother was mad when she showed them to me and I told her that he should be eating a few of them himselfJun 27 15:55
schestowitzUnless you're too old to see them ^_^Jun 27 15:56
schestowitzDaemonFC: mom's mom?Jun 27 15:56
DaemonFCyesJun 27 15:56
schestowitzShe gives your money to PatJun 27 15:56
schestowitzHe loves that helicopterJun 27 15:56
DaemonFCnow there's some next level crazy bitch for you right thereJun 27 15:56
schestowitz!google pat robertson helicopterJun 27 15:57
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Simply put, the round-the-clock helicopter rescue missions ... | http://www.famousquotesabout.com/quote/Simply-put-the-round/445045Jun 27 15:57
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - French, UN helicopter gunships fired rockets into the Ivory ... | http://articles.nydailynews.com/2011-04-10/news/29423556_1_presidential-palace-ouattara-ivory-coastJun 27 15:57
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Pat Robertson and the White Separatist Movement (Martin A. Lee ... | http://ce399fascism.wordpress.com/2011/05/13/pat-robertson-and-the-white-separatist-movement-martin-a-lee-the-beast-reawakens/Jun 27 15:57
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Pat Robertson - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pat_RobertsonJun 27 15:57
DaemonFCand temper that makes my mother's look watered downJun 27 15:57
schestowitz!google pat robertson gays 9/11Jun 27 15:57
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Rev. Falwell Blames for Terrorist Attacks | http://www.actupny.org/YELL/falwell.htmlJun 27 15:57
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - "You Helped This Happen"- Beliefnet.com | http://www.beliefnet.com/Faiths/Christianity/2001/09/You-Helped-This-Happen.aspxJun 27 15:57
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson, views on September 11-Truth! | http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/f/falwell-robertson-wtc.htmJun 27 15:57
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - YouTube - Falwell and Robertson on The 700 Club after 9/11 | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DH-CAcdta_8IJun 27 15:57
DaemonFCyeahJun 27 15:57
DaemonFCgays, 9/11Jun 27 15:57
DaemonFCI see the connectionJun 27 15:57
schestowitzYup!Jun 27 15:57
DaemonFCGod was striking New York 10 years ahead of them passing the gay marriage lawJun 27 15:57
schestowitzThe hijackers were all gay !!Jun 27 15:57
DaemonFCit's so obvious nowJun 27 15:57
schestowitzThey LOVED AllahJun 27 15:58
schestowitzYou know what they said in the orgasmic impact with towers, pentagon, and ground?Jun 27 15:58
DaemonFCbecause he knew it would happenJun 27 15:58
DaemonFCbut we have free willJun 27 15:58
schestowitzAllah AkbarJun 27 15:58
DaemonFCeven though God knows everything, we have free willJun 27 15:58
schestowitzCause Allah got its hardonJun 27 15:58
schestowitzAkbarJun 27 15:58
schestowitzBiggerJun 27 15:58
oiaohmDaemonFC: do we really have free will.Jun 27 15:58
DaemonFChow can we have free will if God knows EVERYTHING we will ever do already?Jun 27 15:58
oiaohmDaemonFC: that is the scary side of us fully understanding the brain.Jun 27 15:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] RT @fabsh What's wrong with talking about politics? If there's something wrong in this world, it's that *not enough* people talk about p ...Jun 27 15:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] I must commend #mozilla for making status bar easier to annul (link on hover in canvas) & making Downloads Manager integrate with Plasma/KDEJun 27 15:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] @fabsh He said "please" ;)Jun 27 15:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Liam Maxwell appointed director of ICT futures - http://bit.ly/mRzhZS ah, a glimmer of hope there (v @Mark_Antony) #ukJun 27 15:59
oiaohmDaemonFC: It might turn out we don't.Jun 27 15:59
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schestowitzI think it means "biggest" if not said with "than <something>"Jun 27 15:59
DaemonFCI'm waiting for one of them to say that 9/11 was preemptive punishment for the gay marriage lawJun 27 16:00
DaemonFCso I can ask them if we do have free will and if we don't, then why did he punish us preemptively?Jun 27 16:00
DaemonFCthat might make their head explodeJun 27 16:00
DaemonFCtrying to put together all the mismatched puzzle pieces with a hammer like they usually doJun 27 16:01
DaemonFCherp derp, like when Jesus rode the dinosaurs 5,000 years ago when the Earth was madeJun 27 16:02
DaemonFCschestowitz, big is relative Jun 27 16:03
DaemonFCthe Earth is tinyJun 27 16:03
DaemonFCit's not the smallest planet, but it is thousands of times smaller than some that are known to exist Jun 27 16:04
DaemonFCthe sun isn't really that large among starsJun 27 16:04
ender_3310:36 < DaemonFC> ender_33, Law and Order? The one where it's the police and the district attorneys or the one where it's the police and the crown prosecutor and people wear funny wigs?Jun 27 16:04
DaemonFCbut humans have worshipped the sun even though there are stars much bigger and brighterJun 27 16:04
ender_33Law & Order: Criminal Intent - its about investigations around criminalsJun 27 16:05
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ender_3310:43 < abeNd-org> DaemonFC: now add to that statement plays on their cell phone in the toilet, then leave without washing their handsJun 27 16:06
DaemonFCI never liked that oneJun 27 16:06
ender_33depends on the washroom, is it public? might be safer not to wash your handsJun 27 16:06
DaemonFCI like SVU thoughJun 27 16:06
ender_33the soap dispensers are a breeding ground for germsJun 27 16:06
DaemonFCthey beat up child pornographers and rapistsJun 27 16:06
DaemonFCand shoot the occasional serial killerJun 27 16:07
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DaemonFCif the real police were like SVU, some shit would get doneJun 27 16:07
oiaohmReally police don't have to beat up child porno and rapistsJun 27 16:07
DaemonFCyou know?Jun 27 16:07
oiaohmthere is more than enough willing criminals in jail more than willing todo it for them.Jun 27 16:07
oiaohmOnly without the legal restraints.Jun 27 16:07
DaemonFCthrow them in the cell, tell everyone what they didJun 27 16:08
DaemonFCwhistle and walk offJun 27 16:08
oiaohmYep.Jun 27 16:08
DaemonFCthat's what I think should be done with themJun 27 16:08
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oiaohmAnd happens a lot more than what you can think.  DaemonFCJun 27 16:08
DaemonFCand it couldn't happen to a nicer guyJun 27 16:08
DaemonFC:)Jun 27 16:08
oiaohmParticularly if the child porn guy is stupid and will not unlock his computer and give away all the others in the group.Jun 27 16:08
oiaohm24 hours in a nasty cellJun 27 16:09
oiaohmFor some reason they become really chatty.Jun 27 16:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Rain Flower http://molo.me/p/7sLmIiJun 27 16:09
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oiaohmTo get solatarly confindment.Jun 27 16:09
DaemonFCoiaohm, No matter what you're arrested for, no matter what you think you want to say....Jun 27 16:09
DaemonFCit's never a good idea to talk to the policeJun 27 16:09
DaemonFCat least not without your lawyer there fielding their questions for youJun 27 16:10
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oiaohmEddy murthy solution.Jun 27 16:11
oiaohmDaemonFC: Talk to the police about everything but what they want to talk about.Jun 27 16:11
oiaohmDaemonFC: Like the funture in the room their cloths ....Jun 27 16:11
DaemonFCniceJun 27 16:11
oiaohmYes after that they only both asking you questions when you have lawyer and completley give up on the idea of attempt to question you without.Jun 27 16:12
oiaohmthinking they have to record all that useless garbage.Jun 27 16:12
DaemonFCI see Mageia still has the same problem Mandriva did wit hthe live cdsJun 27 16:13
DaemonFCthey're all 32-bit onlyJun 27 16:13
DaemonFCso you have to do the net install or download a DVD image to get the 64-bit versionJun 27 16:13
ender_3310:50 < DaemonFC> I got a sample of it on the last trip to the dentistJun 27 16:14
ender_33my dentist wanted me to use this toothpaste with extra flouride in itJun 27 16:14
ender_33Fuck No!Jun 27 16:14
DaemonFCbut that being said, of the 32-bit live cds, KDE is more popular than GNOME at about a 2:1 ratioJun 27 16:14
DaemonFCender_33, toothpaste in the US has less flouride in it than it does in some countries Jun 27 16:15
DaemonFCthe only reason for the extra fluoride is because it's not in the water thereJun 27 16:15
ender_3310:53 < DaemonFC> I've noticed that a lot of televangelists peddle vitamins and homeopathy now on these religious networksJun 27 16:15
oiaohmReally they put flouride in water here.Jun 27 16:15
ender_33its no different than doctors peddling their pills which don't cure shitJun 27 16:15
oiaohmAnd it beat the crap out of me for about 4 weeks.Jun 27 16:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Prince: Digital Music Has A Different Impact On Your Brain - http://bit.ly/mjmvJM barking with purple spots #musicJun 27 16:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @trashbird1240 So what? Attaching a "please" to something doesn't change the meaning, you know.Jun 27 16:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Nice. I just love trains! http://blogs.todayonline.com/todaymultimedia/2011/06/27/all-aboard-for-the-last-time/Jun 27 16:15
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oiaohmI grew up on a property with only tank water.Jun 27 16:15
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ender_33just covers up the symptoms and makes you sickerJun 27 16:16
oiaohmender_33: anti-botics classic example.Jun 27 16:16
Faitherflouride is poisonJun 27 16:16
DaemonFCender_33, Fen-Phen Jun 27 16:16
DaemonFCremember that?Jun 27 16:16
oiaohmender_33: Particular ones of those now cause my body to panic and take core temp to 45 C and keep it their to kill infection.Jun 27 16:17
DaemonFCdoctors started prescribing it to any vain woman with a few extra pounds that came asking for itJun 27 16:17
oiaohmFaither: Infact O2 is a poison too.Jun 27 16:17
DaemonFCthen they find out it was causing everyone taking it heart damageJun 27 16:17
ender_3310:58 < oiaohm> DaemonFC: It might turn out we don't.Jun 27 16:17
ender_33remote control :)Jun 27 16:17
oiaohmFaither: the simple fact of the matter we need so much FlourideJun 27 16:17
Faitheroiaohm: H2o aswellJun 27 16:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Software Patents Face New Challenges as FTC Notified, Bilski Case Invoked, and Re-examinations Carried Out http://ur1.ca/4jqbo #swpatsJun 27 16:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] #SoftwarePatents Face New Challenges as #FTC Notified, #Bilski Case Invoked, and Re-examinations Carried Out http://ur1.ca/4jqbo #patentsJun 27 16:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @gnueverton: Gov @TarsoGenro ouvirá hackers e acadêmicos: @lxoliva @samadeu Maddog e Omar Toral/Intel no #FISL 12 http://ur1.ca/4jgvhJun 27 16:17
DaemonFCor should I say, the drug company probably already knew and sold it anywayJun 27 16:17
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Faitheryou can drownJun 27 16:17
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DaemonFCand someone else exposed itJun 27 16:17
oiaohmFaither: You can die from drinking too much H20Jun 27 16:18
Faither <Faither> you can drownJun 27 16:18
oiaohmFaither: because you dilute the salt in your body too much.Jun 27 16:18
FaitherI knowJun 27 16:18
DaemonFCender_33, Or Pfizer with Bextra Jun 27 16:18
oiaohmFaither: common cause of death on the kodoa track(Ok the track in pap where all the australians died) today is salt getting too low.Jun 27 16:18
DaemonFCthe pain pill that was causing heart attacks and strokeJun 27 16:19
oiaohmFaither: from drinking too much water and taking no salt tablets.Jun 27 16:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] @fabsh You're right: he should have said "With all due respect" #dude_comma_im_jokingJun 27 16:19
DaemonFCand wasn't much more effective than other pain pillsJun 27 16:19
oiaohmDaemonFC: Infact is failed to get on Australias PBS because it was not as effective as some of the older drugs.Jun 27 16:20
DaemonFCPfizer has gotten themselves in false advertising trouble for tons of thingsJun 27 16:20
ender_3311:13 < DaemonFC> they're all 32-bit onlyJun 27 16:20
DaemonFCincluding making false statements about ListerineJun 27 16:20
ender_33yeah its sadJun 27 16:20
DaemonFCwhen they owned thatJun 27 16:20
oiaohmDaemonFC: PBS requires comparitive studies by independants.Jun 27 16:20
oiaohmDaemonFC: USA does not have that requirement.Jun 27 16:20
oiaohmSo lots of bad drugs get sold over there.Jun 27 16:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Modern censorship in action: Wear the target down through bogus actions that eat at moral authority http://t.co/KasJNtUJun 27 16:20
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ender_3311:15 < DaemonFC> the only reason for the extra fluoride is because it's not in the water thereJun 27 16:21
DaemonFCoiaohm, I only agree to take medication that has no patents on itJun 27 16:21
ender_33its in the water here AND they wanted me to use extraJun 27 16:21
DaemonFCand doctors don't like itJun 27 16:21
DaemonFCbut I'll find another doctor if I need toJun 27 16:21
oiaohmDaemonFC: really I stick to stuff that has been on the PBS and not struck off.Jun 27 16:21
ender_33im thinking - I know too much and I need to be medicated into compliance with the systemJun 27 16:21
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oiaohmDaemonFC: I really don't have a broad selection of drugs I can take.Jun 27 16:22
DaemonFCbecause there's tons of stuff out there that's safe and effective and the only reason they don't prescribe it is because there's some new patented drug that presumably does the same thing with unknown safety and it costs 100 times as much per bottleJun 27 16:22
oiaohmDaemonFC: so I cannot be picky.Jun 27 16:22
ender_3311:17 < DaemonFC> then they find out it was causing everyone taking it heart damageJun 27 16:22
ender_33Doctors, its all guess work in a white coatJun 27 16:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] !Miners New map rendered. Also, it has moved to http://sixgun.org/map/community -- please adjust bookmarks.Jun 27 16:22
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oiaohmDaemonFC: I have a dna fault putting set of key protteens as abnormal.Jun 27 16:22
DaemonFCender_33, No, they're drug company gigolos in a white coatJun 27 16:23
oiaohmDaemonFC: So there are a lot of drugs that are simple incompadible.Jun 27 16:23
DaemonFCand possibly wearing a turban Jun 27 16:23
DaemonFCB-)Jun 27 16:23
oiaohmDaemonFC: Ie does my blood disolve with that added.  If yes its a posion to me.Jun 27 16:23
ender_3311:18 < oiaohm> Faither: from drinking too much water and taking no salt tabletsJun 27 16:23
ender_33I'd just eat a big macJun 27 16:23
ender_33that will replenish my salt for like a weekJun 27 16:24
FaitherlolJun 27 16:24
DaemonFCor go order some fries at McDonalds Jun 27 16:24
DaemonFCand you'll get a month's worthJun 27 16:24
oiaohmender_33: Really todo the track you can need about 8 big macs.Jun 27 16:24
oiaohmender_33: in salt.Jun 27 16:24
DaemonFCour McDonalds burned down last weekJun 27 16:24
DaemonFCyay!Jun 27 16:24
oiaohmender_33: Yes scarly hard track.Jun 27 16:24
DaemonFCI say yay because nobody was hurt Jun 27 16:24
oiaohmender_33: ie salt tablets are lighter.Jun 27 16:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] "Does Creative Commons make us more creative?" a primer by Nancy Messieh at The Next Web: http://tnw.co/lt0YueJun 27 16:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @faconti: RT @ricardofritsch A #Internet sob cerco, no #fisl12 com @caribe, @faconti e @samadeu - 01/07, 11 hs. Programa: www.fisl.orgJun 27 16:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @jargon: introducing a new hashtag: #USSA. United Soviet States of AmerikkkaJun 27 16:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Design #hacking: A new art form - http://bit.ly/jcSVCF fascinating ideasJun 27 16:25
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DaemonFCfast food in general is a form of minimum wage slavery, mixed with unhealthy food sold for obscene levels of profitJun 27 16:26
DaemonFCand possibly some toys from China with lead paint for the kidsJun 27 16:26
oiaohmDaemonFC: Nop wrong chemical.Jun 27 16:26
ender_3311:22 < DaemonFC> ender_33, No, they're drug company gigolos in a white coatJun 27 16:27
ender_33trueJun 27 16:27
oiaohmDaemonFC: Industral solvenets some of the DNA altering are in the plastic products McDonalds provides.Jun 27 16:27
DaemonFCI always wondered why their eggs at mcdonalds are green sometimesJun 27 16:27
ender_33especially in Ontario, with the government paying everyones diagnostic bill - doctors just go nuts with all the drugs they receive kickbacks onJun 27 16:27
DaemonFCit's the grill cleaner they useJun 27 16:27
DaemonFCit gets in the eggsJun 27 16:27
oiaohmDaemonFC: toys don't have to be made from food grade pastics.  DaemonFCJun 27 16:27
DaemonFCprobably everything else tooJun 27 16:27
oiaohmDaemonFC: Notice how a lot of McDonalds toys break in 6 to 8 months.Jun 27 16:28
DaemonFCBurger King and Wendys are still thereJun 27 16:28
DaemonFCthey're not health food but at least they don't taste like cardboard + saltJun 27 16:28
oiaohmDaemonFC: They are only felixable and strong while the solvent is still in them. Jun 27 16:28
DaemonFCI hate McDonalds Jun 27 16:29
DaemonFCall except their diet cokeJun 27 16:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Good morning !IdentiverseJun 27 16:29
DaemonFCfor some reason their diet coke tastes better than other diet cokeJun 27 16:29
ender_33mcdonalds had lead paint in their shrek 3 or 4 cupsJun 27 16:29
DaemonFCtheir syrup formula must be different or somethingJun 27 16:29
ender_33there was no nationwide newspaper announced recallJun 27 16:29
ender_33there was a printout on the door of each chain "please return your shrek 4 cups for new ones due to an issue with lead paint in the green"Jun 27 16:30
oiaohmender_33: Lead in those cups where under safe dose limit.Jun 27 16:30
ender_33what if you aren't at McDonalds often?Jun 27 16:30
ender_33oiaohm - wrong because they did a recall, they just kept it sushJun 27 16:30
oiaohmender_33: The other solvenets are not.Jun 27 16:30
DaemonFChttp://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43517153/ns/us_news-giving/Jun 27 16:30
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DaemonFCThis is about two blocks from meJun 27 16:31
ender_33oiaohm - people said the same about BPAJun 27 16:31
FaitherI read somewhere that a happy meal could survive several weeks without growing moldJun 27 16:31
DaemonFCit's been about 6 different things since I've lived hereJun 27 16:31
DaemonFCeverything that opens there goes underJun 27 16:31
DaemonFCand something else comes inJun 27 16:31
oiaohmender_33: BPA is a confirmed dna alterer.Jun 27 16:31
DaemonFCit was a fast food Chinese restaurant at one pointJun 27 16:31
oiaohmender_33: with very little know what a safe expure would be.Jun 27 16:32
Faitherhttp://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504763_162-20019427-10391704.html ok... it was monthsJun 27 16:32
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ender_33oiaohm - CBC said it was making effeminate males and more femalesJun 27 16:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] HPCC Systems promises Big Data as a Service (GigaOm): http://bit.ly/j5GOssJun 27 16:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laforge/@laforge] writing your own BTS code is a lot of fun, especially now that it actually works with #OpenBSC and I can see location updates suceeding.Jun 27 16:32
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oiaohmender_33: males due to dna construction are less tollerent to dna mulations.Jun 27 16:32
DaemonFC"Folks with Malta Burgers say it's already bridging the gap between the homeless and those more fortunate in the community, bringing joy to both sides."Jun 27 16:32
oiaohmender_33: basically side effect of any multations is less males.Jun 27 16:32
DaemonFCyou get a burger and fries and they get to work there for freeJun 27 16:33
DaemonFCwhat could be better?Jun 27 16:33
DaemonFCit's a capitalist dream come trueJun 27 16:33
oiaohmender_33: But BPA is not the only solvent.  There are solvent using in recycle type 3 and 6 plastics as well with nasty side effects on DNA.Jun 27 16:34
DaemonFChttp://www.journalgazette.net/article/20110626/LOCAL/306269939/1002/LOCALJun 27 16:35
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DaemonFCdamn themJun 27 16:35
ender_33oiaohm - I suspect BPA was used on purpose. They knew decades ago it effects reproductive healthJun 27 16:36
oiaohmPolyvinyl chloride Jun 27 16:36
ender_33Now that people know - it has to be replaced with something elseJun 27 16:36
oiaohmthat is type 3Jun 27 16:36
DaemonFC"According to the Indiana Department of Health, 48 percent of all fireworks-related injuries in the state in 2007 involved children and teens."Jun 27 16:36
DaemonFCprobably launching bottle rockets at each otherJun 27 16:36
oiaohmguess what its solveent is.  ender_33Jun 27 16:36
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ender_33?Jun 27 16:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Guardian: Burning platform is burning - http://bit.ly/izXxzT excellent analysis: buying EMAP was insane (v @mathewi)Jun 27 16:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] Dropbox Security Breach http://lxnews.org/2011/06/27/dropbox-security-breach/Jun 27 16:37
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oiaohmWorst case one of the decented chemeal if DDT  ender_33 if you are in a country that does not have to obey safe production.Jun 27 16:38
DaemonFCoiaohm, my dad said when he was in grade school and there was lice going around they'd just cover the kids in ddtJun 27 16:38
ender_33oiaohm - Canada is still exporting asbestosJun 27 16:38
DaemonFCand think nothing of itJun 27 16:38
oiaohmender_33: basically anything with a high load of chloride  will do.Jun 27 16:38
oiaohmender_33: does not matter if it majorally toxic.Jun 27 16:38
DaemonFCI'm sure it did a fantastic job of killing liceJun 27 16:38
DaemonFC(and mutating human DNA)Jun 27 16:39
ender_33oiaohm - We banned it internally but we still sell it to other countriesJun 27 16:39
ender_33Quebec does itJun 27 16:39
oiaohmender_33: Infact Canada still uses some.Jun 27 16:39
abeNd-orgso what good does it do to fuck up the populace with all this crap?Jun 27 16:39
ender_33in a very few and rare placesJun 27 16:39
oiaohmasbestos has some very particular uses.Jun 27 16:39
abeNd-orgthe "bigwigs" get it just the sameJun 27 16:39
ender_3311:39 < abeNd-org> the "bigwigs" get it just the sameJun 27 16:39
ender_33population controlJun 27 16:39
oiaohmNormally after a stack of reactions are done changing it into a solid non fiber.Jun 27 16:40
DaemonFCender_33, Thank you btw, for giving Ann Coulter something to rail about every time there's a minor victory for common sense in the US somewhereJun 27 16:40
ender_33they don't get it just the same, they get the real cures/drugsJun 27 16:40
DaemonFCZOMG, WE'RE GOING TO BE LIKE THE ZOMG GODLESS LIBERALS IN CANADA!!!!Jun 27 16:40
abeNd-orgare you sure its some big conspiracy or just general human stupidity?Jun 27 16:40
DaemonFCBLAARRRGHHHH!!!!Jun 27 16:40
ender_3311:39 < DaemonFC> ZOMG, WE'RE GOING TO BE LIKE THE ZOMG GODLESS LIBERALS IN CANADA!!!!Jun 27 16:40
ender_33LOLJun 27 16:40
oiaohmender_33: serousally the asbestos goes from Canada to another country gets processed into a differenet safe material and sent back.  Jun 27 16:40
ender_33I like Ann Coulter (for only one reason) - she pisses off left wingersJun 27 16:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Over-50s flock to social networks - http://adf.ly/1vuMZ Too much !bbcclick?Jun 27 16:40
ender_33I think thats her jobJun 27 16:40
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ender_33just to piss them offJun 27 16:41
oiaohmender_33: Canada stuffed their rules up slighting.Jun 27 16:41
ender_33shes a stupid bitch but she does a good job pissing people offJun 27 16:41
DaemonFCender_33, Canada is mostly alright, there's a few things I'd change around thoughJun 27 16:41
DaemonFCno queenJun 27 16:41
oiaohmender_33: to reprocess it you have to break it under controlled conditions.Jun 27 16:41
DaemonFCright to bear armsJun 27 16:41
ender_33yeah I would like the queen to be gone tooJun 27 16:41
DaemonFCright to self-defense Jun 27 16:41
DaemonFCspellings of a few wordsJun 27 16:41
oiaohmender_33: guess what under no grounds can you break asbestos in Canada other than mining.Jun 27 16:41
ender_33DaemonFC - leave the spelling aloneJun 27 16:41
oiaohmender_33: yes sometimes goverments are stupid.Jun 27 16:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] In defence of open source http://www.techcentral.co.za/in-defence-of-open-source/24105/ #foss #software #microsoftJun 27 16:42
ender_3311:41 < DaemonFC> right to bear arms   <---without having to tell the government about what guns you have +1Jun 27 16:42
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ender_33DaemonFC - we also need the right to own landJun 27 16:42
DaemonFCyou mean that how?Jun 27 16:43
DaemonFClike in the US how they say we own land but we get to pay tax on it twice a year anyway or they seize it?Jun 27 16:43
ender_33well, if you buy a house in Canada the government doesn't need a reason to take back the land even if you pay taxes on itJun 27 16:43
ender_33there is no private propertyJun 27 16:43
ender_33trudeau made sure we didnt get itJun 27 16:44
DaemonFCender_33, There's eminent domain in the US, at federal and state levelsJun 27 16:44
DaemonFCgenerally the land must be taken for the public good, and they must pay you fair market value and give you enough time to move outJun 27 16:44
ender_33DaemonFC - Trudeau probably drafted up the Canadian bill of rights while he was sunbathing in Cuba with Fidel CastroJun 27 16:44
DaemonFCof course "public good" can mean anythingJun 27 16:44
ender_33DaemonFC - well here they can just take itJun 27 16:45
DaemonFCand a lot of states just leave the courts to work things out after they've bulldozed your houseJun 27 16:45
DaemonFC:)Jun 27 16:45
ender_33According to Trudeau, Canada would be a lot easier to run the 'cuban way'Jun 27 16:45
DaemonFCender_33, Connecticut, for example, bought up a bunch of houses, evicted everyone, bulldozed them all, then sold the land to Pfizer for $1Jun 27 16:46
DaemonFCto build some sort of facility thereJun 27 16:46
DaemonFCand their argument was it would create jobsJun 27 16:46
ender_33DaemonFC - kickbacksJun 27 16:46
DaemonFC= public goodJun 27 16:46
DaemonFCwell, Pfizer never built anything thereJun 27 16:46
ender_33DaemonFC - the politician responsible will get a nice payout sometime in his lifeJun 27 16:46
DaemonFCthey built the place in India insteadJun 27 16:46
ender_33ROFLJun 27 16:47
DaemonFCand the lot is now a big vacant fieldJun 27 16:47
ender_33the politician responsible will get a nice kick in the ass thenJun 27 16:47
ender_33they hung him out to dryJun 27 16:47
DaemonFCyeah, the state court ruled the sale was unconstitutional Jun 27 16:47
DaemonFCand pfizer had to give back the landJun 27 16:47
DaemonFCin exchange for their dollarJun 27 16:48
ender_33yeahJun 27 16:48
DaemonFCand the public can now enjoy their big empty fieldJun 27 16:48
ender_33in Canada, not much would happen because you don't have a rightJun 27 16:48
ender_33DaemonFC - I believe they were prepping Canada for an eco facist private property removalJun 27 16:48
DaemonFCplans are in the works now to turn it into a parkJun 27 16:48
ender_33They will use environmental reasons to get people out of rural areas into citiesJun 27 16:49
DaemonFCbecause the state can't just leave it sitting there as an embarrassment and constant reminder of their greed and corruptionJun 27 16:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Mommy & baby duck (not the Canadian swill-in-a-bottle http://ur1.ca/4jqliJun 27 16:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Klimaanlagen kosten 20.000.000.000 Dollar - http://bit.ly/mKv0kz $20bn/year just for air-conditioning in #Irak & #Afghanistan; what a wasteJun 27 16:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] One of the little ones... they were so close & so fast most of my close shots were fuzzy (not in a duck way :) http://ur1.ca/4jqmzJun 27 16:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @reality Time to blast Windows off my laptop after not booting for months because seriously fuck those guysJun 27 16:49
DaemonFC:)Jun 27 16:49
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ender_3311:48 < DaemonFC> because the state can't just leave it sitting there as an embarrassment and constant reminder of their greed and corruptionJun 27 16:49
ender_33they should put up a statue of a bag of moneyJun 27 16:50
DaemonFCender_33, the last time the feds forced anyone out near here was in the 60sJun 27 16:50
DaemonFCto make way for a reservoir Jun 27 16:50
ender_33yeahJun 27 16:50
DaemonFCto be fair it is a nice place to fishJun 27 16:50
ender_33its stuff like this that makes you wonder why people trust any form of governmentJun 27 16:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Good call. ♺ @reality: Time to blast Windows off my laptop after not booting for months because seriously fuck those guysJun 27 16:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Crops Rotting In Georgia Since Illegal Alien Farm Workers Fled State - http://bit.ly/l5asH1 truly condign (v @shaver)Jun 27 16:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The first advertising campaign for non-human primates - http://bit.ly/mncYtE don't they suffer enough as it is? #ads #ethologyJun 27 16:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] is adding "encrypt /home" to an installer really that hard to do? hardly any distros seem to do it, I'd love to see it in #CrunchbangJun 27 16:50
DaemonFCevery fall, they drain itJun 27 16:50
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DaemonFCand you can see foundations where houses used to beJun 27 16:51
ender_33lolJun 27 16:51
DaemonFCender_33, I'd feel better about them giving me the boot to build a flood control reservoir than to hand over the land to Pfizer for $1Jun 27 16:52
DaemonFCthere's no way you can explain the Pfizer situation other than that someone somewhere was bribedJun 27 16:53
DaemonFCand decided to misuse eminent domain to benefit a for profit companyJun 27 16:53
ender_33obviouslyJun 27 16:53
ender_33where else do you get land for $1Jun 27 16:53
DaemonFCdoesn't happenJun 27 16:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Mommy Duck most certainly had her wings full :) http://ur1.ca/4jqo8Jun 27 16:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] Sweet Tooth Brings Extensions to Gnome 3 http://lxnews.org/2011/06/27/sweet-tooth/Jun 27 16:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Saudi Arabia in Bahrain "They simply invaded and received a post-dated invitation." http://bit.ly/ihqqkD #violenceJun 27 16:54
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DaemonFCunless there's a damned good reasonJun 27 16:54
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ender_33a good reason for $1?Jun 27 16:54
DaemonFClike "This house should be condemned and the property isn't valuable, here you go!"Jun 27 16:54
ender_33I can't think of oneJun 27 16:54
DaemonFCthat happens sometimesJun 27 16:54
ender_33they would never sell YOU land for $1Jun 27 16:54
DaemonFCHUD does sometimesJun 27 16:54
ender_33of the house should be condemned, the land still has valueJun 27 16:55
DaemonFChouses that are in bad shape that the bank foreclosed on and now they sold it to HUD Jun 27 16:55
ender_33the land value would be higher than that of the houseJun 27 16:55
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DaemonFCand HUD sells it to you for $1 as a "poverty relief" thingJun 27 16:55
ender_33lolJun 27 16:55
ender_33buy land for $1Jun 27 16:55
ender_33do it!Jun 27 16:55
DaemonFCit DOES happenJun 27 16:55
ender_33you do it!Jun 27 16:55
DaemonFCI'm not going to buy the kind of homes that I see for $1Jun 27 16:56
ender_33bulldoze and replace houseJun 27 16:56
DaemonFCthen next thing you know I get a $1,000 a year tax bill on itJun 27 16:56
ender_33the land is worth the moneyJun 27 16:56
DaemonFCbecause the city says it's worth $90,000Jun 27 16:56
ender_33make sure you get a receipt thenJun 27 16:56
ender_33LOLJun 27 16:56
ender_33pwn the cityJun 27 16:56
DaemonFCyou don't understandJun 27 16:56
DaemonFChow the law here worksJun 27 16:56
DaemonFCit's worth whatever they say it isJun 27 16:56
ender_33LOLJun 27 16:57
ender_33unless you sue themJun 27 16:57
DaemonFCso they go out and assess property at 2-3 times the valueJun 27 16:57
ender_33why would you just take it up the ass for the governmentJun 27 16:57
DaemonFCbecause you're suing them in their courtsJun 27 16:57
DaemonFCwhich will back them upJun 27 16:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @fabsh most govts are morons about the internet, because it's old people advised by rich people on gravy trains the internet is derailingJun 27 16:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Employees, Not Hackers, Are The Biggest Threat to #Security - http://rww.to/mF4qry such an important factJun 27 16:57
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DaemonFCif they say your $40,000 house is worth $120,000 for taxesJun 27 16:57
DaemonFCthat's what you get to payJun 27 16:57
DaemonFCyou can make it as painful as you likeJun 27 16:57
ender_33LOLJun 27 16:58
ender_33that is so corruptJun 27 16:58
DaemonFCindeedJun 27 16:58
ender_33so they can invent tax liability by lying about your houses valueJun 27 16:58
DaemonFCyeahJun 27 16:58
DaemonFCso they go and do it for every property in townJun 27 16:58
ender_33they don't get in trouble for lyingJun 27 16:58
DaemonFCexcept the rich sideJun 27 16:58
DaemonFCthere they undervalue homesJun 27 16:58
ender_33oh wowJun 27 16:59
ender_33and people STILL trust the government!Jun 27 16:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] My kid officially done school til uni in the fall. Think I'll let him have a week of total vegging before putting him to work :)Jun 27 16:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @glynmoody Employees, Not Hackers, Are The Biggest Threat to #Security - http://rww.to/mF4qry such an important factJun 27 16:59
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DaemonFCyeah, they see this doctor living in a $300,000 homeJun 27 16:59
DaemonFCthey assess him for $200,000 Jun 27 16:59
ender_33then he probably pays a clerk a bribe to keep it that wayJun 27 16:59
DaemonFCthey see you living in a $50,000 home, they might say it's worth $100,000 or moreJun 27 16:59
DaemonFCyeahJun 27 17:00
DaemonFCthey only inflate your tax bill if you're not richJun 27 17:00
DaemonFCthey deflate rich people's property values to keep their taxes downJun 27 17:00
ender_33yeah I get itJun 27 17:00
ender_33then they tax us to shit to make sure we don't become rich Jun 27 17:00
DaemonFCyou work for a living? no lube for you, bend overJun 27 17:01
ender_33lolJun 27 17:01
DaemonFCfor the giant cock of political corruption Jun 27 17:01
DaemonFCtell us how much you love itJun 27 17:01
DaemonFCB-)Jun 27 17:01
ender_33I get no lube, they take 1/4 of my paychequeJun 27 17:01
DaemonFCI try to spend as little money in town as possible Jun 27 17:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] My journey from homophobe to equality activist http://is.gd/OMupAL #interestingJun 27 17:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] LINK: Accused hacker Ryan Cleary released on bail http://adf.ly/1vutd !tpb !lulzsecJun 27 17:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] http://coffee.jezra.net/coffee/20110627 #sip_and_click mehJun 27 17:02
DaemonFCthey already take so much they can go fuck themselvesJun 27 17:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: My journey from homophobe to equality activist | Symon Hill | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 222.49 KBJun 27 17:02
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DaemonFCthey don't need to tax me for washing my car or buying some gadgetJun 27 17:02
ender_33which goes to refugees who get free dental and rent and a place to live, immigrants so they can convert their foreign credentials into Canadian ones (including college/uni funding if required)Jun 27 17:03
DaemonFCcan I do this?Jun 27 17:03
ender_33welfare people get to sell drugs and sit on their ass collecting money for doing nothingJun 27 17:03
DaemonFCender_33, here you get kicked out of low income housing for using drugsJun 27 17:03
DaemonFCso they just don't look too hardJun 27 17:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] LINK: Anonymous Picks up Slack as LulzSec Calls it Quits http://adf.ly/1vuvgJun 27 17:04
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ender_33ahhh here its a second income when you're on welfareJun 27 17:04
DaemonFCthey go and inspect the units now and then and just overlook the fact that the guy has a recliner and a tray table as his only furnitureJun 27 17:04
DaemonFCand the place smells like Bob Marley's assJun 27 17:04
ender_33I know one girl who was like "you know what, i think im gonna go look for a job"Jun 27 17:04
ender_33as if it was something extra she should be doingJun 27 17:05
ender_33LOLJun 27 17:05
ender_33"right after I smoke this"Jun 27 17:05
schestowitzJust spoke about it th9iw morningJun 27 17:06
ender_33Do you have any credentials besides rolling joints? OH you can pack a pipe too!! You can be a Member of ParlimentJun 27 17:06
schestowitzNot far from here there are buildings with people living on benefitsJun 27 17:06
schestowitzThere is no incentive for them to workJun 27 17:06
schestowitzThe government provides them with the basic needs, so you'd probably have just junkies left in the streetsJun 27 17:07
DaemonFCschestowitz, You mean there is a perverse incentive for them not to workJun 27 17:07
ender_33schestowitz - some of the people I know would get a pay cut if they dropped welfare and drug selling to get jobsJun 27 17:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] An open health challenge by @lorimehen | http://red.ht/jk2yQs #health20 #HHSJun 27 17:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @bassburner: #Microsoft May Add Eavesdropping to #Skype http://e66.us/ac #swpatentsJun 27 17:07
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schestowitzbut the context of this conversation, with someone from Poland by the way, is that th UK govt. alleged Poles come here to just pick benefits and send them to Poland where it's worth a lot moreJun 27 17:07
schestowitzBecause here residency and not nationality entities you to itJun 27 17:08
DaemonFCschestowitz, you mean that anyone could be there illegally and getting benefits?Jun 27 17:08
schestowitzIt's complcated and a bit of a mythJun 27 17:08
ender_33daemonfc - there is no such thing as illegallyJun 27 17:08
ender_33at least thereJun 27 17:08
schestowitzMy Polish friends here work very hardJun 27 17:09
ender_33they just gave amnesty to all their refugees, not all of them had background checks doneJun 27 17:09
schestowitzOne has held two full-time jobs (almost) at the same timeJun 27 17:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @marcelobranco: Alo PT e base aliada: vamos brecar! RT @dolphindiluna: Câmara marca votação #AI5.1 http://bit.ly/llCMuF @pauloteixeira13Jun 27 17:09
DaemonFCpeople use undocumented as a euphemismJun 27 17:09
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schestowitzHe hardly had time to snooze and he lost a lot of weightJun 27 17:09
DaemonFCbut they do break federal law by entering the United States improperly Jun 27 17:09
DaemonFCso that makes them illegal immigrants Jun 27 17:09
DaemonFCbecause of the illegal immigration they partook inJun 27 17:09
ender_33DaemonFC - all a terrorist would need to do is go to Mexico first instead of CanadaJun 27 17:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] 7º Celsius outside... BrrrrrJun 27 17:10
DaemonFCender_33, https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Mara_SalvatruchaJun 27 17:11
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ender_33DaemonFC - remember Red alert 2's intro? That's one of the places the soviets came from - LOLJun 27 17:11
DaemonFCMS13 is here because of our lax border enforcementJun 27 17:11
DaemonFCI was playing Red Alert 2 earlierJun 27 17:11
DaemonFCI don't mind Russian immigrantsJun 27 17:12
DaemonFCmost of them workJun 27 17:12
ender_33nah i mean their tanks and shitJun 27 17:12
ender_33in the gameJun 27 17:12
DaemonFCand the ones living off their organized crime don't cause me higher taxesJun 27 17:12
ender_33Russians are awesome actuallyJun 27 17:12
ender_33my gf's dad and her brother  meet the stereotype of the russian hacker typeJun 27 17:13
DaemonFCender_33, OH NOEZ!!! They're selling untaxed cigarettes! I'm angry (that they're not doing this in Indiana)Jun 27 17:13
DaemonFCOutraged!Jun 27 17:13
ender_33DaemonFC - how much are cigarettes?Jun 27 17:13
ender_33ours are taxed like no otherJun 27 17:14
DaemonFCin Indiana, about $4 a pack for CamelJun 27 17:14
DaemonFC$5 for MarlboroJun 27 17:14
ender_33$7 for a small packJun 27 17:14
DaemonFCyou can get the cheap nasty ones for ~$3Jun 27 17:14
ender_33$7 for a small pack of cheap nasty onesJun 27 17:14
DaemonFCor you can roll your own and it comes out to about $1.75Jun 27 17:14
ender_33DaemonFC - we have one advantage thoughJun 27 17:15
DaemonFCthe rollies are better than the cheap packsJun 27 17:15
ender_33DaemonFC - we can go to a native reserve and purchase untaxed cigarettesJun 27 17:15
DaemonFCnow, you go to New York and you're looking at $11 a pack for MarlborosJun 27 17:15
DaemonFCso the Russian Mafia sells their untaxed cigarettes thereJun 27 17:15
DaemonFCbecause they can make a lot more off them thereJun 27 17:15
ender_33DaemonFC - the canadian government countered that by spreading the rumor that 'native smokes have feces in them'Jun 27 17:15
DaemonFCthey couldn't think of a better lie than that?Jun 27 17:16
ender_33nopeJun 27 17:16
ender_33I saw through it immediatelyJun 27 17:16
ender_33'slander over untaxed smokes'Jun 27 17:16
DaemonFCHow about terrorists put uranium in themJun 27 17:16
ender_33LOLJun 27 17:16
DaemonFCto kill Jesus loving  real CanadiansJun 27 17:16
ender_33terrorists = cigarette companiesJun 27 17:16
DaemonFCI mean that could probably work hereJun 27 17:16
DaemonFCchange it to AmericansJun 27 17:16
ender_33they put other radioactive shit in themJun 27 17:16
DaemonFCyeah, they fertilize the fields with bat guano Jun 27 17:17
DaemonFCwhich has been soaking up radon gasJun 27 17:17
ender_33yupJun 27 17:17
DaemonFCthis is big tobacco I'm talking aboutJun 27 17:17
ender_33oh, did u hearJun 27 17:17
ender_33I heard this rumor that radon gas might end up in the water pipesJun 27 17:18
ender_33I need to look into that moreJun 27 17:18
DaemonFCwell, it makes the cigarettes slightly radioactive Jun 27 17:18
DaemonFCof course they have so much shit in there that can hurt you already it's hardly worth worrying about just thatJun 27 17:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] 2011 Kernel Summit Planning starts http://lwn.net/Articles/449386/rssJun 27 17:19
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ender_33hmm the rumor seems to carry weightJun 27 17:19
ender_33http://www.cdc.gov/healthywater/drinking/private/wells/disease/radon.htmlJun 27 17:19
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DaemonFCender_33, my great grandmother grew her own tobaccoJun 27 17:19
DaemonFCand smoked it in a pipeJun 27 17:19
DaemonFCdailyJun 27 17:19
ender_33yeahJun 27 17:19
DaemonFCand lived to be 92 years oldJun 27 17:20
ender_33I think home grown organic tobacco would have been perfectly fineJun 27 17:20
ender_33natives smoked that stuffJun 27 17:20
DaemonFCthere's stuff in these cigarettes that just doesn't exist in natural tobaccoJun 27 17:20
DaemonFCstuff that makes them much worse for youJun 27 17:20
ender_33tobacco is regulated into carrying all these extra chemicals and compounds which cause the harmJun 27 17:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Know what to do when the police try to seize your server, computer, or phone? Take our quiz to find out! https://eff.org/r.66GJun 27 17:20
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DaemonFCI was like 5 years old when she diedJun 27 17:21
ender_33I also heard that because there are trace amounts of radiation and asbestos in the air, it prevents our lungs from healing properly from the tobaccoJun 27 17:21
DaemonFCshe was a touch old ladyJun 27 17:21
DaemonFCcame from living a tough lifeJun 27 17:21
DaemonFC*toughJun 27 17:21
DaemonFCI remember she ate raw onionsJun 27 17:21
DaemonFClike you'd eat an appleJun 27 17:21
ender_33yumJun 27 17:22
DaemonFCand she said that's why she lived so longJun 27 17:22
DaemonFClolJun 27 17:22
ender_33onions are super healthyJun 27 17:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laforge/@laforge] lady calling me on the phone, idicating that she has received my e-mail from last wednesday that had been printed + delivered to her. argh.Jun 27 17:22
DaemonFCI don't know if I could bring myself to eat them rawJun 27 17:22
ender_33I have an in-law who is like 107 years oldJun 27 17:22
ender_33he drinks a shot of something everydayJun 27 17:23
ender_33I can't remember whatJun 27 17:23
ender_33bourbon or rum or somethingJun 27 17:23
DaemonFCa little bit of alcohol isn't going to hurt you anyJun 27 17:23
ender_33eats meat and potatoes every dayJun 27 17:23
DaemonFCit's people that take it to an extreme that develop health problemsJun 27 17:23
ender_33yes I agreeJun 27 17:23
ender_33anything to the extreme is badJun 27 17:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] !Miners !Creepers Map of the Bunch of Creepers world: http://sixgun.org/map/creepers :)Jun 27 17:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @eff This quiz requires JavaScript. Sorry :(.Jun 27 17:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Patent Reform - If Your Head Hurt Before . . . (Groklaw) http://lwn.net/Articles/449389/rssJun 27 17:24
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DaemonFCin fact, many studies suggest a beer or a glass of red wine every day may have positive health effectsJun 27 17:24
ender_33yes but just one glassJun 27 17:24
ender_33I do know beer was once considered more safe to drink than waterJun 27 17:25
DaemonFCright, not chugging a 30 pack and spending the rest of the day passed out in your underwearJun 27 17:25
ender_33due to the alcohol killing the bacteriaJun 27 17:25
DaemonFCand waking up on what seems to be the surface of the sunJun 27 17:25
DaemonFCwith a headache Jun 27 17:25
ender_33lolJun 27 17:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @gijs Geneva ditches OpenOffice for Msft Office, replacing Thunderbird with Outlook while at it #OSOR http://ur1.ca/4jqq9Jun 27 17:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] Strange that they decide to change to Microsoft but don't know why. Dumb people or corruption?Jun 27 17:25
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DaemonFCI actually do drink malt liquor sometimesJun 27 17:26
DaemonFCit has a bad reputationJun 27 17:26
DaemonFCbut it's not badJun 27 17:26
DaemonFClot of people down it as a cheap way to get blitzedJun 27 17:27
*Viper550 (~lirodon@wikipedia/ViperSnake151) has joined #techrightsJun 27 17:28
Viper550opensuse DOES have activity. do you ever read the lists?Jun 27 17:28
Viper550and of course attachmate is distancing themselves from SUSE, they've clearly split up NovellJun 27 17:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @lxnews another?Jun 27 17:30
ender_33Viper550 - I knowJun 27 17:31
ender_33Viper550 - I've tried to tell SchestowitzJun 27 17:31
abeNd-orgthe suse channel is plenty busy, as is the novell channel on ernetJun 27 17:31
abeNd-orgefnetJun 27 17:31
ender_33he even said nobody was talking about opensuse 11.4Jun 27 17:32
ender_33he had one article with a graph supposedly showing a suse decline, but the same source shows massive ubuntu growth where suse dropsJun 27 17:32
Viper550ender_33, Of course. Cause Ubuntu is snatching up EVERYONE.Jun 27 17:33
ender_33yesJun 27 17:33
ender_33Fedora was dropping down tooJun 27 17:33
ender_33I don't see the headlines for that oneJun 27 17:34
Viper550and Scientific is rising Jun 27 17:34
Viper550on Distrowatch anywayJun 27 17:34
ender_33yeahJun 27 17:34
ender_33scientific is rising because centos is slowJun 27 17:34
Viper550YeahJun 27 17:34
DaemonFChttp://www.funnyordie.com/videos/a863be2b6f/vote-for-lando-calrissian-w-billy-dee-williams-from-fod-teamJun 27 17:34
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ender_33I love SL6Jun 27 17:34
Viper550I was the guy who did the updates for 6.1's lookJun 27 17:35
ender_33you made the new theme?Jun 27 17:35
Viper550Yeah.Jun 27 17:35
ender_33awesome!Jun 27 17:35
ender_33:)Jun 27 17:35
ender_33im looking forward to the new theme actuallyJun 27 17:35
Viper550just install the redhat-logos from 6.1Jun 27 17:35
ender_33I haven't jumped over to 6.1 yetJun 27 17:36
schestowitz_Goblin: I'm recording some videoJun 27 17:36
Viper550actually installing the rpm straight from 6.1 does workJun 27 17:36
_GoblincoolJun 27 17:36
ender_33oh yeah?Jun 27 17:36
Viper550yeahJun 27 17:36
schestowitz_Goblin: as fillers for TechBytes videoJun 27 17:37
schestowitzUntil we do our next video episode, which I hope we will soonJun 27 17:37
ender_33Viper550 - sounds awesome i'll check it out thenJun 27 17:37
ender_33Viper550 - you're Shawn Thompson ?Jun 27 17:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] WordPress Plugin Directory Hacked http://lxnews.org/2011/06/27/wordpress-directory-hacked/Jun 27 17:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Cracking open a beer. Gotta get in the mood for live !LO. :DJun 27 17:37
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schestowitzand I'll do a mention of Bytes Me to comeJun 27 17:37
Viper550indeed.Jun 27 17:37
schestowitzplugin directory poisoned?Jun 27 17:38
schestowitzWho didn't see that coming?Jun 27 17:38
schestowitzFirefox used to host some malicious ones, Android still needs to review all submissionsJun 27 17:38
schestowitzThey make a small fee to make the developer traceable and liableJun 27 17:38
schestowitzViper550: I know they separated SUSE, but they didn't give it a good prodJun 27 17:39
DaemonFCthis has to be the biggest torrent I've ever tried to downloadJun 27 17:39
Viper550We're still in a transition phaseJun 27 17:39
DaemonFC185.37 GBJun 27 17:39
schestowitzThey just put it aside, whatever happens, happensJun 27 17:39
Viper550How long did it take for Oracle to start screwing things up?Jun 27 17:39
DaemonFCschestowitz, How long before antivirus companies start capitalizing on the Android malware?Jun 27 17:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] The Startup Genome Report: A 67-page in-depth analysis of what makes early-stage Internet startups successful | http://bit.ly/j8d7v8Jun 27 17:40
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Viper550cause I desperately failed trying to propose a fork on IRC Jun 27 17:41
ender_33Viper550 - you're in a lot of distros :)Jun 27 17:43
abeNd-orgfor pretty much any of novell's products they would need suse, the latest zcm11 i think is only supported on suse linux, same with groupwise, & of course their OES suite is tied directly to suse, service pack version evenJun 27 17:43
ender_33Viper550 - even openindiana :)Jun 27 17:43
Viper550Not quiteJun 27 17:43
abeNd-orgDaemonFC: there are a lot of AV companies in the android space already, i know kaspersky has a personal & a corporate managed versionJun 27 17:44
DaemonFCOpenIndiana is a jokeJun 27 17:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] !kde #akonadi/#kmail2 teams need to work on migration process. the identities are not imported correctly (wrong sending account and folders)Jun 27 17:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] dear !chakra !lazyweb, how can I get the regular, plain, old #kmail 1.x? the 2.x branch does not work for me...Jun 27 17:44
Viper550what I desperately want is another RHEL remakeJun 27 17:44
ender_33DaemonFC - not reallyJun 27 17:44
DaemonFCthey're entirely dependent on Oracle code dropsJun 27 17:44
Viper550centOS is a joke.Jun 27 17:44
DaemonFCthe build toolchain is nonfree in some placesJun 27 17:44
Viper550well on the backendJun 27 17:44
ender_33DaemonFC- they are working on thatJun 27 17:44
ender_33DaemonFC- nothing comes close to ZFS with DedupeJun 27 17:44
DaemonFCI'd rather use Debian/kFreeBSD than anything else if I wanted ZFS support that badlyJun 27 17:45
ender_33FreeBSD only supports ZFS pool version 15Jun 27 17:45
ender_33no dedupe I'm afraidJun 27 17:45
DaemonFCthere's PC-BSDJun 27 17:45
DaemonFCwhich isn't horribleJun 27 17:46
ender_33same thingJun 27 17:46
ender_33plus, openindiana embraces GNU tools, FreeBSD hates themJun 27 17:46
DaemonFCyeah, what about the 9.0 beta though?Jun 27 17:46
ender_33DaemonFC - same shitJun 27 17:46
ender_33DaemonFC - its not Zpool version 28Jun 27 17:46
DaemonFCFreeBSD only uses GPL'd software when they have no other choiceJun 27 17:46
DaemonFCthey've made numerous attempts to attack the GPL with lies and FUDJun 27 17:47
ender_33yeahJun 27 17:47
ender_33thats why a solaris fork is better imo than using freebsdJun 27 17:48
DaemonFCmaybe and maybe notJun 27 17:48
DaemonFCI think whatever has the most hardware support is a deciding factorJun 27 17:48
DaemonFCI don't care how nice your file system is if my video card doesn't work properlyJun 27 17:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @chadwollenberg: Wow, some scary stuff in here about #Bachmann. I know it's one sided, but wow http://is.gd/1PKlf9 #GOP #TeaPartyJun 27 17:49
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DaemonFCI don't care if you benchmark a little faster if my printer doesn't print and my scanner doesn't scanJun 27 17:49
DaemonFCso FreeBSD is not really a good choice for meJun 27 17:49
DaemonFCand anything Solaris is worseJun 27 17:49
ender_33I only use Solaris for a file serverJun 27 17:50
DaemonFCSolaris never really cared about making open source drivers for things like video cardsJun 27 17:50
DaemonFCthey throw in the proprietary Nvidia driverJun 27 17:50
DaemonFCthere is no such thing for AMDJun 27 17:50
ender_33yeah i dont really careJun 27 17:50
ender_33nothing comes close to ZFSJun 27 17:50
DaemonFCI use a desktop PC as a desktop PCJun 27 17:50
ender_33thanks to kernel-CIFS, I can use zfs to make shares tooJun 27 17:50
DaemonFCand the BSDs and Solaris are wholly inappropriate in that roleJun 27 17:51
DaemonFCyou can make a desktop out of them but it won't be a great desktop OSJun 27 17:51
ender_33my desktop pc is Linux and WindowsJun 27 17:51
ender_33my netbook is linux onlyJun 27 17:51
ender_33I have more than one computerJun 27 17:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[faither/@faither] @rysiek Your dents make me scared for when I'll be upgrading to #kmail2 with my setup... !kde #akonadiJun 27 17:52
ender_33my fileserver actually also runs virtualbox with SL6Jun 27 17:53
schestowitz[17:40] <DaemonFC> schestowitz, How long before antivirus companies start capitalizing on the Android malware?Jun 27 17:54
schestowitzThey already doJun 27 17:54
ender_33F-Prot for Android ?Jun 27 17:55
ender_33lolJun 27 17:55
schestowitzF-Spot?Jun 27 17:55
schestowitz[17:50] <ender_33> nothing comes close to ZFSJun 27 17:55
schestowitzZebra?Jun 27 17:55
schestowitzWell, they both start with a ZJun 27 17:55
schestowitzCan't get better than that!Jun 27 17:55
ender_33hardy ha haJun 27 17:56
*schestowitz ZzzZZzzzJun 27 17:56
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ender_33oh your using codeJun 27 17:56
ender_33ZZ ZZ ZZJun 27 17:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @reality: @littlet @fabsh Yeah, seriously, fuck that shit. #cursingJun 27 18:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Proof that Money can't buy common sense - LINK: Prince: Digital Music Has A Different Impact On Your Brain http://adf.ly/1vwFs !prince !failJun 27 18:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] RT @laurelrusswurm: #TSA stands by officers after pat-down of elderly woman in Florida This makes me angry: http://ur1.ca/4jm92Jun 27 18:02
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ender_33schestowitz - speaking of code, and COLA trollsJun 27 18:03
ender_33schestowitz - he has provided no evidence of there being Microsoft agentsJun 27 18:04
ender_33howeverJun 27 18:04
ender_33schestowitz - HADRON, H = E, So when you scramble you get "A drone"Jun 27 18:05
ender_33thats better than anything msb_ has providedJun 27 18:05
ender_33its not smoking gun but its better than zipJun 27 18:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] @fabsh Or Talladega Nights, or a sad reference to a conversation I actually had ;)Jun 27 18:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] @fabsh Unfortunately this is what I tell my kids; need to change tactics!Jun 27 18:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] How the Hippies Saved Physics [Excerpt] (SciAmerican): http://bit.ly/jZ9OUxJun 27 18:10
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schestowitzJust got "    Microsoft and General Dynamics Itronix Sign Patent Agreement"Jun 27 18:13
schestowitzAnothet extortionJun 27 18:13
schestowitzGot request for comment from journalistsJun 27 18:13
ender_33schestowitz - what ever happened to CTVJun 27 18:16
ender_33wheren't they gonna fly you over to Canada?Jun 27 18:16
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schestowitzjust replied to one:Jun 27 18:23
schestowitz"Jun 27 18:23
schestowitzSure.Jun 27 18:23
schestowitzThis deal demonstrates Microsoft's continued bullying and persistent attempts to get around Google and tax its Linux-based operating system, usually by intimidating distributors of Android with lawsuit threats. Microsoft knows that for such companies to fight the case in court there would be less incentive than for Google, which currently battles against Oracle to defend Android from software patents. This deal is yet another example Jun 27 18:23
schestowitzof the harms of software patents, which seem to provide a sort of welfare system to former monopolies or monopolies on the decline. People must ask themselves whether the patent system promotes innovation or promotes litigation which merely raises the price of everything we buy and reduces incentives for developers, whose jobs are dropped to give way to patent lawyers.Jun 27 18:23
schestowitz Jun 27 18:24
schestowitzI am a computer vision researcher based in Manchester. I also work for Sirius, which is based near London. I hold a Ph.D. in Medical Biophysics.Jun 27 18:24
schestowitz Jun 27 18:24
schestowitzThanks for contacting me for contact. I appreciate your balanced writings.Jun 27 18:24
schestowitz"Jun 27 18:24
schestowitzOddly enough he asks for disclosures like that, even though he could easily look that upJun 27 18:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] If I get the notes done. ;) ♺ @maloki: *has prepared her VLC with tonights !LO show, Live!* http://65.60.11.2:8216/live in about 40min!Jun 27 18:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] WTF Ustream, WTF!?Jun 27 18:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Do you agree? Open Or Proprietary, It's Whether It Works Or Not That Counts (NetworkWorld) | http://bit.ly/kFMg0XJun 27 18:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @savvykenya: "Now that I have many apps this phone has slowed down considerably! #Ideot " -- ideot? do you by any chance mean Idiot? :PJun 27 18:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] @faither yeah, about that. dear !kde: #kmail2 and #akonadi are, in fact, very beta. so I apologise for all my ranting. I didn't know that.Jun 27 18:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] http://www.ntrepidcorp.com/ - Ntrepid Corp - Silly name, silly retro 90's font for its logo.... and I wonder what they do? ;)Jun 27 18:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Heres one of the alleged things Ntrepid Corp do: (appart from owning naff retro fonts) http://tinyurl.com/6d7s8htJun 27 18:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Both tennis players wearing headbands with a big tick in the middle. It looks a bit silly really.Jun 27 18:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @claudiom: Good job, #TSA! Thanks for making the world safer, one Depends at a time. http://ur1.ca/4jrq1Jun 27 18:50
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DaemonFCI can't believe I had to crack a game from 1998Jun 27 18:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Why #LulzSec had no choice but to disband http://is.gd/gSU7LCJun 27 18:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laforge/@laforge] I've just seen a statement under oath that "Linux has no copyright restrictions [...] on their use or distribution.". @gpl @linuxJun 27 18:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @LulzSec If President Obama wears a shoe on his head throughout entirety of his next big speech,we will cease fire on all targets foreverJun 27 18:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] I'd rather spend a day with a MVP than waste 5 minutes of my time on the 2012 !Olympics .....who cares? waste of money....Jun 27 18:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] md @jessenovels Can't wait to check out !InconstantMoon ... full hard hitting review will be on my site as soon as I get my hands on it.Jun 27 19:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @encyclomundi Charles Roth #reading !InconstantMoon by @laurelrusswurm todayJun 27 19:05
ender_33We call the liberal premier of Ontario the Tax manJun 27 19:08
ender_33especially after McGuinty's Sneaky Eco TaxJun 27 19:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] !LO ♺ @sixgun: Live now with another Linux Outlaws: http://sixgun.org/liveJun 27 19:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] My nice evening skating trip - http://ur1.ca/4js05Jun 27 19:10
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DaemonFCender_33, New York City taxes bagelsJun 27 19:15
DaemonFCbut only if they're slicedJun 27 19:16
DaemonFCthat's pretty bad when they pass laws to tax bagelsJun 27 19:16
DaemonFCit means they taxed the shit out of everything else and all that was left to tax were bagelsJun 27 19:16
DaemonFC<DaemonFC> my death ray runs Windows 7, your lives were all spared because it needed defragging and virus scanning and temporary files cleared out and updates applied and then when that was done something went wrong and it couldn't bootJun 27 19:19
DaemonFC<DaemonFC> but when I get this figured out, you are so fuckedJun 27 19:19
DaemonFC<DaemonFC> B-)Jun 27 19:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] Original: Grab Android Screenshots from Linux: No Rooting Required http://bit.ly/lD5cla #linuxJun 27 19:20
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abeNd-orgwow all that for a screenshot on android, useless...Jun 27 19:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @windigo: Now listening to !lo, which has changed it's topic to Jaffa Cakes.Jun 27 19:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] 238 Representatives voted to block the Dept. of Ag from protecting food and farms from extreme weather: http://ur1.ca/4js6g @CREDOMobileJun 27 19:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laforge/@laforge] invalid claims about @linux, @asterisk and @GPL at supreme court case in @mauritius: http://bit.ly/jCKC7nJun 27 19:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Book Designer: 7 Things You Can Do Today to Improve Your Book Design http://ur1.ca/4js5d !SelfPubJun 27 19:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @threethirty ♻ @ioerror: BREAKING: SCOTUS to consider 24-7 GPS tracking — Police attached GPS device to man's car for month w/o warra ...Jun 27 19:27
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DaemonFCOpera 11.5 will be out within a few daysJun 27 19:28
*DaemonFC noticed he was a few RCs behind :PJun 27 19:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Dutch parliament passes Europe's first net neutrality law http://ur1.ca/4js73 via @threethirtyJun 27 19:32
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ender_3314:19 < DaemonFC> <DaemonFC> but when I get this figured out, you are so fuckedJun 27 19:33
ender_33LOLJun 27 19:33
ender_33DaemonFC - im not sure how to ask or phrase this but basicly I want to find out what to do to protect myself from my family - in the event im old or something and get a mentall illness (such as Alzheimers)Jun 27 19:37
ender_33I don't want people robbing me when I'm oldJun 27 19:38
ender_33I also don't want the government taking my stuff tooJun 27 19:38
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ender_33goforbes28!!Jun 27 19:38
ender_33A Canadian for a Canadian questionJun 27 19:38
DaemonFCender_33, I'm sure Canadaland probably has laws about living willsJun 27 19:38
DaemonFCwell I am a fellow North AmericanJun 27 19:39
DaemonFC:PJun 27 19:39
ender_33yeahJun 27 19:39
ender_33should be close enough I thinkJun 27 19:39
ender_33GoForbes28 - do you have anything to add, I'll repost the questionJun 27 19:39
ender_3314:37 < ender_33> DaemonFC - im not sure how to ask or phrase this but basiclyJun 27 19:39
ender_33                  I want to find out what to do to protect myself from myJun 27 19:39
ender_33                  family - in the event im old or something and get a mentallJun 27 19:39
DaemonFCwrite out a living willJun 27 19:40
ender_33mental illness such as alzheimersJun 27 19:40
ender_33im looking up living will right nowJun 27 19:40
ender_33perhaps theres something else tooJun 27 19:40
DaemonFCdon't do it in orange crayon with some of the letters backwards so they can easily challenge itJun 27 19:40
ender_33LOLJun 27 19:40
DaemonFCand it may be best to do it before you start throwing feces and masturbating in publicJun 27 19:40
DaemonFCand talking to street lampsJun 27 19:40
ender_33ROFLJun 27 19:41
ender_33Of U.S. deaths, 25%-55% occur in health care facilities.[4]Jun 27 19:41
ender_33LOLJun 27 19:41
DaemonFCender_33, health care facilities include nursing homes and hospices Jun 27 19:42
DaemonFCwhere people go to dieJun 27 19:42
DaemonFCI wonder if that has something to do with itJun 27 19:42
ender_33I don't want a boring deathJun 27 19:42
ender_33I'd rather be dead than be in a nursing homeJun 27 19:42
ender_33yet, euthanasia is not an option for me because I don't want to die early eitherJun 27 19:43
GoForbes28ender_33: I would try to get into a car accidentJun 27 19:43
DaemonFCyou don't want to be slowly dying of something while listening to the moonlight sonata over and over again?Jun 27 19:43
DaemonFCme neitherJun 27 19:43
GoForbes28ender_33: Most "awesome" way to goJun 27 19:43
DaemonFChttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQVeaIHWWckJun 27 19:44
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ender_33lolJun 27 19:44
GoForbes28ender_33: How about living in the most inhospitable environment imaginable?Jun 27 19:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Security advisories for Monday http://lwn.net/Articles/449394/rssJun 27 19:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] Why Firefox's Rapid Release Schedule Is No Big Deal http://bit.ly/k4M9vUJun 27 19:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Prime Minister Raila Oding at the joined the queues at Kenya Revenue Authority Offices to remit his tax arrears. http://b1t.it/otSJun 27 19:45
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GoForbes28Just make a prepaid plane ticket 80 years in advanceJun 27 19:45
GoForbes28then just goJun 27 19:45
DaemonFCGoForbes28, You mean France?Jun 27 19:45
GoForbes28lolJun 27 19:45
GoForbes28Now that's funnyJun 27 19:46
ender_33GoForbes28 - hopefully we get hit with extreme weatherJun 27 19:46
DaemonFCwe're supposed to get a wicked thunderstorm Jun 27 19:46
DaemonFCI hope we doJun 27 19:46
DaemonFCI may just run out in my underwear and dare God to strikeJun 27 19:47
DaemonFCit keeps the neighbors guessingJun 27 19:47
ender_33GoForbes28 - I think a societal collapse is the only thing that will get rid of the international banking cartelJun 27 19:47
DaemonFCender_33, or the workers of the world uniting Jun 27 19:48
DaemonFCbut I agree a societal collapse is more likelyJun 27 19:48
ender_3314:48 < DaemonFC> ender_33, or the workers of the world unitingJun 27 19:49
ender_33I don't see how that would get rid of bankersJun 27 19:49
DaemonFCas long as China has a large population of cheap laborers that it sees as expendable, our jobs are not coming backJun 27 19:49
DaemonFChttp://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/06/27/BA9Q1K37ED.DTLJun 27 19:50
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GoForbes28ender_33: As opposed to the other cartels? :PJun 27 19:52
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GoForbes28Our banking system is actually betterJun 27 19:52
GoForbes28except for service charges that come from a Bell Canada mentalityJun 27 19:52
GoForbes28get rid of those and install a modern Internet infrastructure, we could make it betterJun 27 19:53
ender_33our banking service is terribleJun 27 19:53
DaemonFCGoForbes28, You could always try redemption Jun 27 19:54
DaemonFC:)Jun 27 19:54
GoForbes28Of course, as we know, the CPCC approach to improvement is to not do anything and say that we are better than the US and therefore not needing of any improvementJun 27 19:54
ender_33GoForbes28 - you pay $14 for an unlimited account with most banks, or zero with president choice or ING banksJun 27 19:54
ender_33two banks don't have service chargesJun 27 19:54
ender_33the rest doJun 27 19:54
GoForbes28ender_33: Yeah, service needs work, but the system itself is solidJun 27 19:54
DaemonFChttp://www.fbi.gov/scams-safety/fraudJun 27 19:54
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DaemonFClolJun 27 19:54
GoForbes28Having a central bank makes senseJun 27 19:55
ender_33GoForbes28 - the system is not solid, plus look at how much we owe the banks for printing our money and buying it backJun 27 19:55
ender_33GoForbes28 - look at how much we owe the World BankJun 27 19:55
GoForbes28I mean the basis systemJun 27 19:55
ender_33money is the root of all evilJun 27 19:55
GoForbes28It's like the Linux kernel with Windows APIs stuck to itJun 27 19:55
GoForbes28nah, it's just a tool that evolvedJun 27 19:55
ender_33give everyone a home, a way to grow their own food, a way to provide electricity themselves, an internet connection, and we're goldenJun 27 19:56
GoForbes28that's sounds a little like communism...Jun 27 19:56
ender_33not reallyJun 27 19:56
ender_33each person would be self sustaining and not depending on the slave labour of ohtersJun 27 19:56
GoForbes28two thingsJun 27 19:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] #Ninjutsu Training Myths http://ur1.ca/4jsfm #ninjaJun 27 19:57
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GoForbes28one, no one could be truly self-sustaining, that's B.S.Jun 27 19:57
ender_33a person who didn't want to work wouldn't be able to feed themselves, thats the only job they needJun 27 19:57
GoForbes28Number twoJun 27 19:57
GoForbes28Not all work everybody does is slave labourJun 27 19:57
ender_33yes it isJun 27 19:57
GoForbes28Unless you were refering to third-word corporate relocationJun 27 19:58
GoForbes28then yesJun 27 19:58
ender_33GoForbes28 - you work tax free?Jun 27 19:58
GoForbes28NoJun 27 19:58
ender_33so you're working for someone elseJun 27 19:58
GoForbes28yesJun 27 19:58
ender_3325% of your income goes to someone who is not youJun 27 19:58
GoForbes28But it also doesn't go to  the person I'm working for eitherJun 27 19:58
ender_3320% if your on a lower tax tierJun 27 19:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @laforge: invalid claims about #linux, #asterisk and #gpl at supreme court case in #mauritius: http://bit.ly/jCKC7nJun 27 19:58
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GoForbes28yeah, that's how it worksJun 27 19:59
ender_33you're just a willing slave because you get benefitsJun 27 19:59
ender_33you can't NOT workJun 27 19:59
ender_33you can't become a recluse and just live on your own farm, you gotta pay taxesJun 27 19:59
GoForbes28But in your "self-sustaining" paradise, you can't not work eitherJun 27 19:59
DaemonFCthe government takes money from you and redistributes it to the rich who contribute nothing to society except mass poverty and to illegal immigrants who get welfareJun 27 19:59
DaemonFCamong other people who are not you who did not earn your moneyJun 27 19:59
ender_33GoForbes28 - the work you do directly benefits you, and only youJun 27 20:00
ender_33DaemonFC - they also give it to the poor via welfare, food stamps, free college and uniJun 27 20:00
GoForbes28DaemonFC: If my money bypassed the rich and went to not-so-well off "illegal" immigrants, then I actually would be fine with thatJun 27 20:00
DaemonFCthey take your money and pay other people to not workJun 27 20:01
GoForbes28goforbes28: Uh huh, but you wouldn't have to, oh I dunno, write computer programs, etc. innovate, be a musician.Jun 27 20:01
DaemonFCwhat's not to love?Jun 27 20:01
GoForbes28*ender_33: Uh huh, but you wouldn't have to, oh I dunno, write computer programs, etc. innovate, be a musician.Jun 27 20:01
ender_33Canada used to have criteria for coming into the countryJun 27 20:01
ender_3315:01 < GoForbes28> *ender_33: Uh huh, but you wouldn't have to, oh I dunno, write computer programs, etc. innovate, be a musician.Jun 27 20:01
GoForbes28DaemonFC: I do think that what you are describing is a misperceptionJun 27 20:01
ender_33I said electricity, a computer and an internet connectionJun 27 20:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @EFF Know Your Digital Rights Quiz. How well do you know your rights? https://eff.org/r.66G <warning; javascript dependent>Jun 27 20:02
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ender_33technology is almost at a point where we can be telecom free and make a wireless grid with each otherJun 27 20:02
GoForbes28ender_33: Ok, and who maintains the internet connection?Jun 27 20:02
ender_33bamJun 27 20:02
ender_33pre-answeredJun 27 20:02
GoForbes28The invisible hand?Jun 27 20:02
ender_33wireless gridJun 27 20:03
ender_33we can almost do it nowJun 27 20:03
GoForbes28Who makes the materials for houses?Jun 27 20:03
GoForbes28What if trade takes place?Jun 27 20:03
ender_33you can't build a house?Jun 27 20:03
GoForbes28What if people hire other people the way we do now?Jun 27 20:03
_Goblinschestowitz: Hey Roy! Cheers for the image!Jun 27 20:03
ender_33trade shouldn't be touched by governmentJun 27 20:03
GoForbes28ender_33: No I can'tJun 27 20:03
ender_33the government just becomes the middle manJun 27 20:03
_Goblinschestowitz: its going straight on the about page!Jun 27 20:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] I'll always be a !Mozilla and !Firefox fan! - https://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox/VisionStatementJun 27 20:03
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ender_33takes taxes for each transaction and takes taxes for all incomeJun 27 20:04
GoForbes28ender_33: I concur with that to a degreeJun 27 20:04
GoForbes28Public "Official" transactions in a store to be taxed?  fineJun 27 20:04
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GoForbes28Private transations?  NopeJun 27 20:04
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GoForbes28hi thistlewebJun 27 20:04
ender_33I'm anti-taxJun 27 20:04
GoForbes28hi _goblinJun 27 20:04
_Goblinhi!Jun 27 20:05
ender_33I think the government shouldn't exist, same with bankersJun 27 20:05
ender_33both are a bain to humanityJun 27 20:05
GoForbes28_goblin: How's it going?Jun 27 20:05
ender_33slaving away to pay taxes to the systemJun 27 20:05
_Goblinvery well...Jun 27 20:05
ender_33slaving away to pay usury on debtJun 27 20:05
ThistleWebheyJun 27 20:05
GoForbes28ender_33: I can easily see a point where your system creates a dictatorJun 27 20:05
GoForbes28ender_33: The problem is that you think people will think exactly the same as you doJun 27 20:06
ender_33GoForbes28 - trueJun 27 20:06
GoForbes28ender_33: It's the same "rational" fallacy that economists useJun 27 20:06
ender_33thats the best I can come up withJun 27 20:06
ender_33I just don't want the government or banks to existJun 27 20:06
schestowitz_Goblin: niceJun 27 20:06
ender_33those are the greatest slave masters of humanityJun 27 20:06
GoForbes28ender_33: I'm not saying that your world doesn't have some appealJun 27 20:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] West Sussex Council payoffs to officers 'outrageous' http://is.gd/SuW9ozJun 27 20:07
schestowitz_Goblin: got tomorrow off?Jun 27 20:07
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GoForbes28ender_33: Go make a television pilot about it :PJun 27 20:07
ender_33I can't even do it IRL, because just owning land makes you liable for taxesJun 27 20:07
ender_33it would be great to just leave societyJun 27 20:07
abeNd-orgdebt...that shit is nuts, i don't have any personal debt, why the f should i have to pay off someone else's, much less my own spendcrazy countryJun 27 20:07
_Goblinschestowitz: no...but I finish at 3pm so should be home around 4ishJun 27 20:07
GoForbes28"Enderland"Jun 27 20:07
ender_33its a utopia i'll admitJun 27 20:08
abeNd-orgstop spending money, what a friggin concept!Jun 27 20:08
ender_33cause I know its not likely to happenJun 27 20:08
ender_3315:08 < abeNd-org> stop spending money, what a friggin concept!Jun 27 20:08
ender_33yeah reallyJun 27 20:08
ender_33Canada owes 500 billion and we don't stopJun 27 20:08
ender_33Harper is spending like a liberal - more proof they aren't differentJun 27 20:08
GoForbes28ender_33: International Debt from borrowing from other countries is managable provided that the GDP growth is proportionalJun 27 20:09
ender_33GoForbes28 - if you max out your credit card, do you keep buying new things?Jun 27 20:09
GoForbes28ender_33: That of course, doesn't say that what Harper is doing is smart, especially for a so-called "economist".Jun 27 20:10
ender_33or do you use your income to pay it off before you spend againJun 27 20:10
GoForbes28ender_33: I don't have a credit cardJun 27 20:10
abeNd-orggranted a country is a little different financial beast than an individualJun 27 20:10
abeNd-orgbut some concepts are the same, like stop spending all that money you dont have on crap you dont need!Jun 27 20:10
GoForbes28ender_33: It was the liberals who created a surplus in the 90s... as I have said beforeJun 27 20:10
ender_33GoForbes28 - I know, it shatters the stereotypeJun 27 20:10
ender_33liberals are known to spend, conservatives are known not to spendJun 27 20:11
ender_33LOLJun 27 20:11
GoForbes28ender_33: Tell that to MulroneyJun 27 20:11
ender_33conservatives killed the avro arrow, now conservatives are buying jets from lockheedJun 27 20:11
ThistleWebthey all spend, they just redirect it to further their benifactors and idealogical causesJun 27 20:11
ender_33GoForbes28 - Mulroney continued Trudeaus debtJun 27 20:11
GoForbes28ThistleWeb: very trueJun 27 20:11
GoForbes28ender_33: Still shadows the Conservative stereotypeJun 27 20:12
GoForbes28*shattersJun 27 20:12
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sebsebseb Jun 27 20:12
sebsebsebhiJun 27 20:12
GoForbes28 Jun 27 20:12
ThistleWebthey seek to starve policies they don't approve of, while feeding policies they approve ofJun 27 20:12
GoForbes28hiJun 27 20:12
ender_33well the reason I say it does is because there is no differenceJun 27 20:12
sebsebsebGoForbes28: hehJun 27 20:12
ender_33goforbes28 - Cretien said he would get rid of the GST!Jun 27 20:13
ender_33He did!Jun 27 20:13
ender_33didn't!Jun 27 20:13
ender_33lolJun 27 20:13
sebsebsebGoForbes28:  Jun 27 20:14
sebsebsebGoForbes28:  Jun 27 20:14
ender_33harper dropped it by 2%, which wasn't very noticable unless you make large transactions (the ones rich people and corps do)Jun 27 20:14
ThistleWebstill, debating politics with someone who doesn't know the meaning of terms he throws out is a hilarious waste of timeJun 27 20:14
ender_33I do know what I'm talking aboutJun 27 20:15
ender_33My info doesn't come from the mediaJun 27 20:15
ThistleWeblol, yeah msb also claims thatJun 27 20:15
ender_33most people also believe everything they are told by school and newsJun 27 20:16
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ThistleWebyour use of "socialist" in here has shown exactly how you "know what you're talking about"Jun 27 20:18
ThistleWebstill, most politicians are clueless about the subjects they grandstand on too, so you'd fit inJun 27 20:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] the beast is afoot, release the hounds!Jun 27 20:23
schestowitzis someone here calling me?Jun 27 20:26
ThistleWebnot meJun 27 20:27
ThistleWebdamn.....missed a joke......erm...."calling you a what?"Jun 27 20:27
ender_3315:18 < ThistleWeb> your use of "socialist" in here has shown exactly how you "know what you're talking about"Jun 27 20:29
ender_33it is sound - just the people here don't agreeJun 27 20:29
ThistleWeblol, keep believing that, you're gonna anywayJun 27 20:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gnufreex/@gnufreex] Here is what NATO and rebel "freedom fighters" do in Libya http://obamaslibya.com/Jun 27 20:30
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ender_33keep being ignorant of historyJun 27 20:30
ender_33if you won't accept that communism was invented by the illuminati, how should I accept anything you say?Jun 27 20:31
ThistleWebyou do know dan brown is a fiction writer right?Jun 27 20:32
gnufreexender_33: Communism is invented by Germans to bring down Russian Empire. Jun 27 20:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] !Microsoft to make money (again) off competitors more popular products – The parasite is back. http://tinyurl.com/5wpwnwc !windows !vistaJun 27 20:32
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gnufreexender_33: Lenin was German infiltrant. Jun 27 20:32
ender_33gnufreex - Lenin was part of the bolshevik revolution and was a masonJun 27 20:33
ender_33Trotsky was also a masonJun 27 20:33
ender_33the russian empire was taken down because it assisted the US during its civil warJun 27 20:34
gnufreexender_33: Why Russia got out of WW1? Because Lenin started Civil war (bolsevik revolution) in russia. Jun 27 20:34
ender_33Albert Pike was supposed to make the US a slave stateJun 27 20:34
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ender_33the only slavery the system will tell you he was involved with was black peopleJun 27 20:35
ender_33also if you dig deep, the Russian takeover occured during a time of day and Trotsky litterally watched the clock to make sure it happened precisely on the sign of scorpioJun 27 20:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @kevingranade @reality *my* general rule is that websites don't execute code on my computer, they only get that privilege if *I* thin ...Jun 27 20:37
ender_33I can discuss this at greater lengths with my notes at home later today if you'd likeJun 27 20:37
GoForbes28sebsebseb: yeah?Jun 27 20:38
ender_33other than that, I'd suggest watching 'The Soviet Story', 'In the Shadow of Hermes' and read 'In the sign of scorpio - Juri Lina'Jun 27 20:39
gnufreexender_33: Which person exactly wasn't a mason? Tito was mason, Churchil was Mason, .... it seems that masonery don't have unified ideology at all.Jun 27 20:39
ender_33investigate all sourcesJun 27 20:39
ender_3315:39 < gnufreex> ender_33: Which person exactly wasn't a mason? Tito was mason, Churchil was Mason, .... it seems that masonery don't have unified ideology at all.Jun 27 20:39
ender_33exactly, they don't - its for youJun 27 20:39
GoForbes28gnufreex: I'm sorryJun 27 20:39
ender_33no matter the ideology, they'll be in controlJun 27 20:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #CrapGL not to be confused with #Crapple !loJun 27 20:40
gnufreexender_33: but why they need control? People typically want to do something with that control of power they have. Jun 27 20:41
ender_33unlike ideology - I'd rather have NO governmentJun 27 20:41
gnufreexGoForbes28: Sorry about what? Jun 27 20:41
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GoForbes28gnufreex: That Jabber server I suggest to you doesn't have a mail serviceJun 27 20:41
GoForbes28*edJun 27 20:41
ender_33gnufreex - asking me why would by like going down the rabbits holeJun 27 20:41
gnufreexGoForbes28: Ah, I know. No problem.Jun 27 20:42
ender_33gnufreex - it involes genetic enginnering, a super computer and a plan for space colonization for the assimilation of other speciesJun 27 20:42
ender_33in theory anywaysJun 27 20:43
GoForbes28gnufreex: what did you end up using?Jun 27 20:43
gnufreexender_33: You know, I will eventualy have to give serious consideration to that theory :-)Jun 27 20:43
gnufreexGoForbes28: I use email adress I got from my ISP :-/Jun 27 20:44
GoForbes28I believe that can intergrate with Jabber :)Jun 27 20:47
GoForbes28(gnufreex)Jun 27 20:47
gnufreexGoForbes28: no need. Jun 27 20:48
GoForbes28Just FYI;Jun 27 20:48
GoForbes28:PJun 27 20:48
gnufreexokJun 27 20:48
GoForbes28 it comes with many featuresJun 27 20:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @giuseppe: #gnu #icecat 5.0 released https://savannah.gnu.org/forum/forum.php?forum_id=6858Jun 27 20:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] doble felicitaciones a @martinolivera. ¿nos vemos en #FISL?Jun 27 20:48
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gnufreexMaybe I try when I'm bored :) GoForbes28Jun 27 20:49
GoForbes28Compatible with pop imap and smtpJun 27 20:49
GoForbes28lolJun 27 20:49
GoForbes28I'm not having luck with backing up featuresJun 27 20:49
GoForbes28Though I did have a nice moment yesterdayJun 27 20:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is jargon with 86 dents!Jun 27 20:50
GoForbes28I met two guys I hung out with during my last year of high schoolJun 27 20:50
GoForbes28who told me that they both switched to GNU/Linux after hearing my talking about itJun 27 20:51
GoForbes28one of them mentioned "double battery life over Windows"Jun 27 20:51
GoForbes28Huzzah!Jun 27 20:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @lxoliva Thank you. :)Jun 27 20:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @lxoliva @laurelrusswurm you're not weird; weird is not to mind executable code surreptitionsly infiltrating one's browser, or computer!Jun 27 20:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @marcelobranco: Aee Presidenta# RT @IDGNow: Dilma quer que aeroportos ofereçam Wi-Fi gratuito a partir de julho http://bit.ly/iQgEqUJun 27 20:55
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GoForbes28gnufreex: I guess not running inefficient eye candy and background service helpsJun 27 20:55
gnufreexender_33: give me link to your blog again :) Jun 27 20:56
gnufreexGoForbes28: Adition by subtraction :PJun 27 20:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] he who owns the cloud, can choose when & who it rains on #cloudcomputingJun 27 20:58
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ender_33gnufreex - www.qubitarkhive.comJun 27 21:00
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ender_33gnufreex - the front page currently has top posting for a letter from a famous mkultra victimJun 27 21:01
gnufreexender_33: I read that, didn't get anything. Jun 27 21:01
gnufreexender_33: In fact, I didn't read through to the endJun 27 21:02
ender_33its her story but the rest of the site has the researcJun 27 21:02
gnufreexI gave up reading.Jun 27 21:02
ender_33it is quite a long readJun 27 21:02
GoForbes28gnufreex: tl'dr?Jun 27 21:04
gnufreexGoForbes28: yepJun 27 21:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] The other thing, of course, is that I find it incredibly ironic that computer security advocate @EFF would even post a java dependent quiz.Jun 27 21:05
ender_3316:05 -TRIdentica:#techrights- [laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] The other thing, of course, is that I find it incredibly ironic that computer security advocate @EFF would even post a java dependent quiz.Jun 27 21:09
ender_33Laurel is dumb that's whyJun 27 21:09
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ender_33awww Viper550!Jun 27 21:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @mo6020: Well, I made it here alive .Jun 27 21:10
MinceRi don't see the issueJun 27 21:10
ender_33Viper550 does the artwork for Scientific Linux, hes king!Jun 27 21:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @mrdenticator: Yesterday top #statustician is jargon with 86 dents! -- Congratulations @jargon!Jun 27 21:12
ender_33I wonder when Java was registered as a patentJun 27 21:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Who's a nocking on ma doar ral loud? Must be da DEA.... Rooooooonald Reagan! :DJun 27 21:13
MinceRi doubt it's one patentJun 27 21:14
MinceRmore like a large set of patentesJun 27 21:14
MinceRs/tes/ts/Jun 27 21:14
ender_33you know what I meanJun 27 21:14
MinceRi have a suspicionJun 27 21:15
ender_33theres a 20 year expiry dateJun 27 21:15
ender_33its gotta be up soonJun 27 21:15
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ender_33at least for the first stuffJun 27 21:15
ender_33I'm thinking Microsoft has like 10 years left with C#Jun 27 21:16
MinceRicJun 27 21:16
MinceRnow i'm interested tooJun 27 21:16
MinceRthough i suspect that they've added more patents later onJun 27 21:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] there should be a #Linux help show called "Can't Boot, Won't Boot"Jun 27 21:17
ender_33sure they would haveJun 27 21:17
ender_33each new version, each new feature probably has a patentJun 27 21:17
MinceReven java 2 was laughably immatureJun 27 21:17
MinceRjava 5 finally started to look like something usableJun 27 21:17
ender_33its starting to get fastJun 27 21:18
gnufreexender_33: They don't patent all at once. First few patents, then few more in 5 years, then few more in 10 years... it will never expire. They just keep re-patenting.  Jun 27 21:18
ender_33yupJun 27 21:19
ender_33that's why I said each new feature probably has a patentJun 27 21:19
ender_33whatever the EMCA covers for C# will expire in 10 years i'm thinkingJun 27 21:19
gnufreexECMA part is unusableJun 27 21:19
ender_33where have they gotten in the first ten yearsJun 27 21:19
ender_33nowhereJun 27 21:20
gnufreexNot even Mono have ECMAJun 27 21:20
gnufreexI mean, it is not all ECMAJun 27 21:20
ender_33yeah Mono pretended it would have an ECMA version to shut up the criticsJun 27 21:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Washington DC friends: don't forget to drop by the @NewAmerica Foundation this Wed for the #powerofopen launch! http://bit.ly/mfMr0RJun 27 21:20
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ender_33that never materializedJun 27 21:20
gnufreexThey had to go add more crapJun 27 21:20
gnufreexjust to make it workJun 27 21:20
ender_33I've e-mailed them a number of times over the last year or so asking where the ECMA version was locatedJun 27 21:21
ender_33no replyJun 27 21:21
ender_33surprise!Jun 27 21:21
MinceR:>Jun 27 21:21
gnufreexender_33: They replied to Jason MeltonJun 27 21:21
gnufreexwait for linkJun 27 21:21
MinceRhttps://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/File:Link_LOZ_with_items.pngJun 27 21:22
ender_33didn't they tell him that people would just bitch anyways so they didnt bother?Jun 27 21:22
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ender_33something along those linesJun 27 21:22
gnufreexhttp://www.the-source.com/2010/12/on-mono-packaging/Jun 27 21:22
ender_33I remember hearing that somewhereJun 27 21:22
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ender_33Mincer - what about Link?Jun 27 21:23
MinceRwell, gnufreex said to wait for him :>Jun 27 21:23
gnufreexMinceR: Lol. I meant the other link, that I posted later.Jun 27 21:24
ender_33LOLJun 27 21:24
ender_33I actually get to enjoy controlling Link today in 3DJun 27 21:24
ender_33:)Jun 27 21:24
MinceR:>Jun 27 21:24
MinceRi'll get back to that when i have timeJun 27 21:24
ender_33Zelda Ocarina of Time 3DJun 27 21:24
MinceRin an emulator :>Jun 27 21:24
ender_33I doubt your emulator gives you glasses-free 3DJun 27 21:25
MinceRit doesn'tJun 27 21:25
MinceRand the version of the game i run in it doesn't support it either :>Jun 27 21:25
abeNd-orghehJun 27 21:26
MinceRthen again, i'm not that much into 3D displays :>Jun 27 21:26
abeNd-orgare we talking ROM piracy?Jun 27 21:26
MinceRwe aren't talking about it :>Jun 27 21:26
MinceRthough i guess i should try a glasses-free 3D display once...Jun 27 21:26
GoForbes28abeBd-org: you mean unauthorized ROM copying, right?Jun 27 21:27
MinceRi've only tried 3D movies so far, at the cinemaJun 27 21:27
GoForbes28I tried a 3d picture book onceJun 27 21:27
GoForbes28and went to see a few imax and omnimax moviesJun 27 21:28
GoForbes28that's pretty much itJun 27 21:28
GoForbes28I remember the Omnimax one was a documentary on Everest narrated by Liam NiesonJun 27 21:28
GoForbes28Whom we all knew Jun 27 21:28
GoForbes28by that time from the Phantom Menace (aka vomit)Jun 27 21:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @khertan: Khweeteur 0.5.26 : CPU at 49°C Edition is now available in Maemo Extras Devel repository. #N900 #MaemoJun 27 21:30
GoForbes283D is a gimic, nothing moreJun 27 21:31
GoForbes28until we have holodecks, 3D on a 2-D screen will continue to be a gimicJun 27 21:31
GoForbes28*"3-D" entertainment will continue to be a gimic.Jun 27 21:32
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ender_33goforbes28 - it would be interesting if someone would follow DirectHex's advice and try tripping mono down with the monolinker toolJun 27 21:32
ender_33stripping/tripping/sJun 27 21:32
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ender_33LOL "I'm wrong, I'm sure corrections will appear in comments. And wrong orJun 27 21:33
ender_33right, people like gnufreex will call me Satan, so there's not muchJun 27 21:33
ender_33advantage to advance copy."Jun 27 21:33
MinceRi've seen visual artifacts in the movieJun 27 21:34
MinceRi think i've only seen RealD (or whatever it's called) so farJun 27 21:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] sweet dreams ... of tux paint ... ;) @expatpaulJun 27 21:37
GoForbes28ender_33: Sorry, I don't know what you are talking about.  You mean .NET Mono?Jun 27 21:38
ender_33sorry I linked the wrong personJun 27 21:40
ender_33I meant gnufreexJun 27 21:41
gnufreexwhat me? ender_33Jun 27 21:41
ender_33yeahJun 27 21:41
MinceRi don't know Phantom Menace as Vomit :>Jun 27 21:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] LINK: Dev-corner: How to request art for your FOSS game project (and how not to) http://adf.ly/1w2HzJun 27 21:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] bukake cat image http://is.gd/T3QCMl #brilliantJun 27 21:43
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GoForbes28MinceR: Really?  Must have been a precursor to 3d, because the Phantom Menace seemed almost indistinguishable from vomit :PJun 27 21:44
MinceRit seemed very distinguishable from vomitJun 27 21:46
MinceRthough episodes 2 and 3 were betterJun 27 21:46
ender_33I liked Phantom MenaceJun 27 21:47
ender_33I just didn't like jar jarJun 27 21:47
MinceRi liked phantom menace and i don't remember particularly minding jar jarJun 27 21:47
ender_33He was easy enough to ignoreJun 27 21:47
ender_33It didn't ruin the movie for meJun 27 21:47
ender_33at the time it was one of the best movies outJun 27 21:48
ThistleWebpeople forget the point of the star wars moviesJun 27 21:48
MinceRthe Force?Jun 27 21:48
ThistleWebthey're aimed at kids, all 6 eps wereJun 27 21:48
ender_33like Lucas?Jun 27 21:48
ThistleWebfor the prequels not to be aimed at kids too it would feekl wrongJun 27 21:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] I mean..... Seriously? Mauritius? WTF!? That's like in the middle of nowhere.... OoJun 27 21:48
ThistleWebnow we watch the new ones with adult eyes and wonder why some of it is infantileJun 27 21:49
ender_33yeah but even with that in mindJun 27 21:49
ThistleWebwe're not the target age for the prequelsJun 27 21:49
ender_33they could have come up with a less annoying kids characterJun 27 21:49
ender_33nobody thought C3PO was annoying, at least I didn'tJun 27 21:49
ThistleWebthe clone wats cgi cartoon is pretty goodJun 27 21:50
ThistleWebagain, aimed at kidsJun 27 21:50
ender_33yeahJun 27 21:50
ender_33same with the lego star wars gamesJun 27 21:50
ThistleWebexactlyJun 27 21:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] The population estimate for the whole republic is 1,283,415. LOL.Jun 27 21:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Mauritius was the only known habitat of the extinct dodo bird. #RandomShiteJun 27 21:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] If I lived in a cold country, I believe I could grow a beard, but here, I have to shave every day in the summer, or I overheatJun 27 21:50
ender_33even though they are awesomeJun 27 21:50
ThistleWebso when people complain about star wars anything being not adult enough for their adult minds, they miss the pointJun 27 21:51
ender_33CHEWIE!!!Jun 27 21:51
ender_33http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ChewbaccaJun 27 21:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Philipp Kern's Debian blog: YouTube serving its content over IPv6 http://ping.fm/vrT0IJun 27 21:52
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ThistleWebjar jar was annoying in the cartoon, I'm glad he didnt get that many scenesJun 27 21:52
ender_33Mincer - speaking of O.J, someone here told me I was wrong and that he didn't kill his wifeJun 27 21:52
ender_33based on the court rulingJun 27 21:53
ender_33LOLJun 27 21:53
ender_33everyone knows he did itJun 27 21:53
MinceRi didn't follow that caseJun 27 21:53
MinceRi didn't even know who O.J. was at the timeJun 27 21:53
MinceRi've found out sinceJun 27 21:53
MinceR:>Jun 27 21:53
ender_33actor/football playerJun 27 21:53
ender_33if he wasn't rich he'd be in jailJun 27 21:54
ender_33one of my favorite people on SNL was removed by one of the higher ups because of his O.J jokesJun 27 21:54
MinceRhe played in Naked Gun 1..33⅓Jun 27 21:54
MinceR:>Jun 27 21:54
ender_33http://videogum.com/62311/norm_macdonalds_legendary_espy/stand-up-comedy/Jun 27 21:56
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MinceR(flash) (video) (audio) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sjiJtyKOtgJun 27 21:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] OHAI, !mint. please do tell me how's the !kde support in #LMDE? it looks damn interesting, but I'm a KDE guy...Jun 27 22:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Now I know what Malvertising means at least in Michael Kassner's opinion http://ping.fm/AViAQJun 27 22:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] I totally want @methoddan to play the Star Spangled Banner on the Tele for the !LO live on Independence Day! Who's with me?Jun 27 22:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @psquid: This cereal... it must be created! http://ur1.ca/4jtq3Jun 27 22:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] SET PHASERS TO STUNNINGJun 27 22:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] LINK: Righthaven Charged With Racketeering In Somewhat Epic Filing http://adf.ly/1w2qiJun 27 22:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] If subscription site Newzbin is banned does the entertainment ind think people don't know how to circumvent or use a free nzb indexer? !failJun 27 22:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @psquid This cereal... it must be created! http://ur1.ca/4jtq3Jun 27 22:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @ninapaley Check out my newest animated short Credit is Due (The Attribution Song) http://ur1.ca/4jtwq !copyright < article's a good readJun 27 22:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] BTW, bonus points for playing a twelve string with a Tele strapped to your back. :DJun 27 22:12
ender_33lol mincerJun 27 22:15
schestowitzhe's also polite to point out what clicking it dosJun 27 22:16
schestowitz*doesJun 27 22:16
schestowitzBTW, busty till later today, I'll mostly be active tomorrowJun 27 22:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @nybill: Blackguard update: The lacquer is cured. I just finished wet sanding and buffing: http://tinyurl.com/3fz4njfJun 27 22:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] RT @silner Philipp Kern's Debian blog: YouTube serving its content over IPv6 http://ping.fm/vrT0IJun 27 22:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] RT @silner Protecting !Linux Against DoS/DDoS Attacks • by Jamie Adams http://ping.fm/ZufRsJun 27 22:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @tomsky: Okay this is really cool. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxPsrOmm4mQ&feature=youtu.be !minecraftJun 27 22:20
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GoForbes28brbJun 27 22:20
ender_33today pizza is on sale at the storeJun 27 22:20
ender_33$3.33Jun 27 22:20
GoForbes28niceJun 27 22:20
ender_332x 3.33 = $6.66Jun 27 22:21
ender_33the DEVIL!Jun 27 22:21
GoForbes28ughJun 27 22:21
ender_33LOLJun 27 22:21
MinceRthe devil divided by 100Jun 27 22:21
GoForbes28So one pizza is only half evilJun 27 22:21
ender_33you know I'm not christianJun 27 22:21
MinceR668: Neighbor of the BeastJun 27 22:21
ender_33if theres anything in the details its the .33Jun 27 22:21
ender_33probably letting masons know whats on saleJun 27 22:21
MinceRcan't the masons just read the price list like everyone elseJun 27 22:22
MinceR?Jun 27 22:22
ender_33you would think soJun 27 22:22
MinceR000: Number of the LeastJun 27 22:23
GoForbes28Are stonemasons evil?Jun 27 22:23
ender_33LOL number of the leastJun 27 22:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Jesus Christ!!! Oo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxPsrOmm4mQJun 27 22:23
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ender_3317:23 < GoForbes28> Are stonemasons evil?Jun 27 22:24
ender_33free masonsJun 27 22:24
GoForbes28I know, I was making a jokeJun 27 22:24
ender_33ah okJun 27 22:24
GoForbes28Well, I do know there was some involvement of a masonic(?) lodge in my family's pastJun 27 22:25
MinceR333: Number of the Half-BeastJun 27 22:25
GoForbes28Don't know much otherwiseJun 27 22:25
GoForbes28and it was an isolated thing anywayJun 27 22:26
ender_33is 333 a love child of satan?Jun 27 22:26
MinceR:>Jun 27 22:27
GoForbes28ender_33: Lol, when you talk about masons, all I can think of is that secret organzation from the simpsons, the stone cutters or something ("WHO DOES [X]?  WEEE DOO!  WEEE DOO!)Jun 27 22:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @fabsh I may be many things but "Open Source leader" is not one of them :)Jun 27 22:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @fontana ;)Jun 27 22:27
MinceRcrab people, crab people. taste like crab, talk like people.Jun 27 22:28
ender_33GoFOrbes28 - thats where the joke comes fromJun 27 22:30
ender_33GoFOrbes28 - flintstones had one tooJun 27 22:30
ender_33waterbuffalosJun 27 22:30
ender_33it was allegory at the timeJun 27 22:30
ender_3317:28 <@MinceR> crab people, crab people. taste like crab, talk like people.Jun 27 22:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Chinese Search Company Creating its Own Mobile OS based on !Android /by @JohnScheible http://feedly.com/k/lRZLxpJun 27 22:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] @fontana "Richard Fontana: Certified Open Source Troll Leader"Jun 27 22:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] RT @fkarlitschek Facebook bans KDE photo uploader. http://bit.ly/mTy5fZ #kde #facebook #fail #owncloudJun 27 22:30
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ender_33mincer knows about the crab people, who want to make men metro so they can take overJun 27 22:30
ender_33THE CRAB PEOPLE!Jun 27 22:31
GoForbes28ender_33: The Freemasons are extinct!  Like the Sith!Jun 27 22:31
ender_33Taste like crab, talks like people.Jun 27 22:31
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enthymemeOkay, so once all men are taking the metro, what do the crab people plan to do about the women?Jun 27 22:31
ender_33goforbes28 - http://grandlodge.on.ca/Jun 27 22:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Grand Lodge of Canada in the Province of Ontario, Freemasonry, Masonic, Masons .::. Size~: 1.57 KBJun 27 22:31
ender_33really?Jun 27 22:31
GoForbes28that's why I said like the sithJun 27 22:31
ender_33Oh!Jun 27 22:31
ender_33yeahJun 27 22:31
ender_33also, look into the masonichipJun 27 22:32
ender_33kind of obviousJun 27 22:32
twitterwhat's this?Jun 27 22:32
twittersith and crab people?Jun 27 22:32
twittermust have been nothingJun 27 22:33
twitterI noticed this annoyance today http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-878493-start-0.htmlJun 27 22:33
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GoForbes28ender_33: I think I may have actually been CHIP-edJun 27 22:33
GoForbes28ender_33: :SJun 27 22:33
GoForbes28Then again, I'm probably thinking of something elseJun 27 22:34
twitterdebian testing rolled out kde 4.6 and the number mount broke all my scriptsJun 27 22:34
GoForbes28twitter: lol kdeJun 27 22:34
GoForbes28ok, brb,Jun 27 22:34
GoForbes28for realJun 27 22:34
twitterone answer is to label the usb volumeJun 27 22:34
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twitterusb is mostly useful in the land of winblows, so http://www.debuntu.org/device-partition-labeling#vfatJun 27 22:35
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twittermlabel works a little differently from how they put itJun 27 22:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] OK, I need sleep.Jun 27 22:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Zeuthen: Writing a C library, part 1 http://lwn.net/Articles/449452/rssJun 27 22:38
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twitteryou have to add two lines to a .mtoolsrc file, "mtools_skip_check=1" and "drive i: file="/dev/sdb1"Jun 27 22:39
twittermsdos stuff is painful, even when you use free software on a completely free systemJun 27 22:39
MinceRi find usb to be quite useful outside the land of winblowsJun 27 22:40
MinceRmy biggest USB flash drive has an ext3 filesystem on it :>Jun 27 22:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #RodBlagojevich found guilty of trying to sell #BarackObama's Senate seat http://is.gd/U8Td72Jun 27 22:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #PhilipMorris to sue if #Australia puts all cigarettes in plain green wrappers http://is.gd/9S4JUs #drugdealers don't like limits on earningJun 27 22:42
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MinceR(plus there are lots of non-MSC USB devices)Jun 27 22:43
MinceR(and USB HDDs)Jun 27 22:43
twitteronly two tiny usb drives of mine have fatJun 27 22:43
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twitterI use larger volumes for rsync backups and that is useful but those are last ditch backups.Jun 27 22:44
twitterit's easier to do more frequent backups to a live systemJun 27 22:45
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twitterI leave one usb drive plugged into one of my live systems, in case I have to run from a hurricane Jun 27 22:45
twitterthat's useful, but I have most of the same stuff on my laptopJun 27 22:45
MinceR:>Jun 27 22:45
twitterI used to think thumbdrives were useful for booting a free system on a foreign computer, but I don't do that too often anymore.Jun 27 22:46
twitteragain, that's land of winblows stuffJun 27 22:47
MinceR:>Jun 27 22:47
twitterIf I had a larger thumb drive, I might use it to move movies around for playing, but I'd rather do that through the networkJun 27 22:48
twitterI used to like testing out new software on USB but now use Virtual Box.Jun 27 22:49
twitterbbl, it's dinner time.Jun 27 22:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] big tobacco are nowhere near as quick at paying out REAL damages to smokers, when they consistently deny evidence of REAL harm #hypocrisyJun 27 22:52
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schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/85417765669834753Jun 27 22:58
TechrightsBot-tr@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz I wish you were right that swpats face challenges. But the current situation is actually more like this: http://t.co/MC0nn9jJun 27 22:58
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schestowitzFUDster is hapyJun 27 22:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Assange is a CIA agent, according to another opportunistic book... aint journalism grand? http://t.co/e3VzTJHJun 27 23:00
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MinceRgnJun 27 23:00
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/kalkion/statuses/85397365514706944Jun 27 23:00
TechrightsBot-tr@kalkion: #Geneva Abandoning #Open Source http://bit.ly/l9aVAI #thunderbird #openoffice @schestowitzJun 27 23:00
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schestowitzhas someone looked into it yet?Jun 27 23:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @MeeGoExperts: The four wheels spinning MeeGo 1.2 Harmattan http://mge.bz/da #Quim #Gil #Nokia #N9 #MeeGo #Elop #WP #Developer #LinuxJun 27 23:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Supreme Court to consider whether 4th amendment protects against warrantless GPS tracking. https://eff.org/r.762 #privacy #mobileprivJun 27 23:05
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twitterI don't seem more than what you doJun 27 23:17
schestowitzI'm not quite following...Jun 27 23:18
schestowitzWhat I was thinking of, has someone looked deeper into it?Jun 27 23:18
twitterbut use of Open Office and Thunderbird, while nice, hardly are a commitment to "open source"Jun 27 23:18
schestowitzIn Bristol, for example, Microsoft and its partners allegedly bullied out Open SourceJun 27 23:18
schestowitztwitter: maybe they could use silly 'cloud' like Gmail+Google AppsJun 27 23:19
twitterI imagine something similar happened here ... "under no circumstances lose to linux"Jun 27 23:19
schestowitzImagine a government and police putting their data on some dubious servers from a US-based companyJun 27 23:19
schestowitzOr...Jun 27 23:19
schestowitzPut it in Microsoft binary formats and executablesJun 27 23:19
schestowitzWhich is what they did all these years, like some flockJun 27 23:19
twitterfree software proponent should forget about the foolish half measures of "open source" migration needs to be completeJun 27 23:19
twitterwith only a few, specialized links back to legacy softwareJun 27 23:20
twitterThe Microsoft people don't fool around with half measures, they are happy to take people's money while ripping their workflow to shreds. Jun 27 23:21
twitterhalf measures leave the migration venerable to Microsoft interference, format changes and stuff like that which Microsoft boosters then call an "open source failure"Jun 27 23:22
schestowitzTrueJun 27 23:22
schestowitzBristol wanted to stay with WindowsJun 27 23:23
schestowitzAnd use all the inherent limittaiobns on thatJun 27 23:23
schestowitzThan putting OpenOffice on it (slow on Windows) to fit a grove to a footJun 27 23:23
schestowitzAlas, that's already biasedJun 27 23:23
schestowitzBut still, for someone to do TCO study when you already assume the Windows layer would be rather silly, wouldn't it\/Jun 27 23:23
twitteryes it is silly, but it's exactly what many migrations assumeJun 27 23:24
twitter free software has better performance and costs, when you kick Microsoft to the curbJun 27 23:25
twitterwhen you don't, they gum up the works and pretend things will be better when all the "open source" they sabotaged is goneJun 27 23:25
twitterbut anyone can compare the all Microsoft to the all free software answers and see that free software is betterJun 27 23:26
twitterthey can only fool people they own and those that are in the middleJun 27 23:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Geek&Poke Simply Explained: Brute Force Attack http://goo.gl/azaa5Jun 27 23:27
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schestowitzI wonder if someone herre use recordmydesktopJun 27 23:28
schestowitzwith or without the gtk-* front endJun 27 23:28
schestowitzI have this issueJun 27 23:28
schestowitzIf I record it for longer than a couple of minutes, then only sometimes I lose the soundJun 27 23:29
schestowitzI've been trying to make some show episodesJun 27 23:29
ThistleWebnever had that problemJun 27 23:29
schestowitzAnd I struggled to make it go into files as long as minutesJun 27 23:29
schestowitzMaybe it's some system events going on periodically in the backgorundJun 27 23:29
schestowitzBut if I keep all video segments short, then it doesn't really happenJun 27 23:30
ThistleWebnever had any problems actually, except sometimes you have to set the settings in the config file as the GUI way doesn't store itJun 27 23:30
schestowitzAnyhow, I think I got the hang of it and I'll post some videos soonJun 27 23:30
ThistleWebdo you encode on the fly?Jun 27 23:30
schestowitznoJun 27 23:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Thorsten Wilms: !Ubuntu Friendly Logo 5 http://goo.gl/XiRZrJun 27 23:30
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schestowitzI did try that tooJun 27 23:30
schestowitzIt only makes it worse IIRC (never went back to trying it again)Jun 27 23:30
twitterI have not paid attention to sound on my desktop recordings.  They are also less than five minutes.Jun 27 23:31
ThistleWebyeah I had bad results doing that, although I put that down to old limited hardwareJun 27 23:31
twitterhmmm, http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/bacula-systems-receives-us5-million-to-deliver-open-source-enterprise-backup-and-restore-technology-to-large-data-centers-123537764.htmlJun 27 23:33
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ThistleWebI don't see why this would affect it, but what frame rate is it at?Jun 27 23:34
twittersome of the testing software I've got uses pulse audio, that thing that DaemonFC has been crying about for monthsJun 27 23:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] Min. @Mercadante Oliva me mata de orgulho! hacker != cracker, liberdade > segurança, via @marcelobranco @DeLuCa http://t.co/OIGRRBoJun 27 23:35
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schestowitzThistleWeb: max frame rate, but doesn't matter if I change itJun 27 23:36
schestowitzIt's the audio that causes problemJun 27 23:36
ThistleWebk, I always change that to 30 for easy converting afterwards, I found everything else to be a major PITAJun 27 23:36
schestowitzIt mutes afyer some seemingly random period of time and I don't even know until I watch it afterwards and realise it's all trash because a lot of the remainder lost all the data associated with voiceJun 27 23:37
ThistleWebyeah I didn't seehow it could affect it, was just checkingJun 27 23:37
twittercan you use another recording device as a backup?  Jun 27 23:39
twitterlike a portable music player hooked into a split earphone jack?Jun 27 23:39
twitterthat could be your workaround until the software is sorted outJun 27 23:40
twittergnu/linux audio has been fantastic at sharing devices for a long time, so this problem is surprisingJun 27 23:41
twitterVista era hardware is awful, so the problem might be deeper than the software layerJun 27 23:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @reality @andyc :(Jun 27 23:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] #Congolese #android Tablet? > http://nd,gd/qx Pleasantly surprised! !android !africa cc @nj3ma @kelzOKO @fredmanglis @RamanusAsango @jargonJun 27 23:47
twitterthe trolls always seem to get around to things like this, calling Pogson a pedophile http://mrpogson.com/2011/06/17/freedom-does-matter/#comment-48668Jun 27 23:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] #Congolese #android Tablet? > http://nd,gd/qx Pleasantly surprised! !android !africa cc @glynmoody @startupkenya @mtwita @tcsmola @bigbrovarJun 27 23:48
twittercalling RMS a pedophile http://mrpogson.com/2011/06/17/freedom-does-matter/#comment-48641Jun 27 23:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @eebrah: #Congolese !android Tablet? > http://nd,gd/qx Pleasantly surprised! !africa cc @vikgorani @yasena @mtotowajirani @debelzieJun 27 23:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] #Congolese !android Tablet? > http://nd.gd/qx Pleasantly surprised! !africa cc @kahenya @sebsebseb @lamusoftwareJun 27 23:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] #Congolese !android Tablet? > http://nd.gd/qx Pleasantly surprised! !africa cc @vikgorani @yasena @mtotowajirani @debelzieJun 27 23:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] #Congolese !android Tablet? > http://nd.gd/qx Pleasantly surprised! !africa cc @nj3ma @kelzOKO @fredmanglis @RamanusAsango @jargonJun 27 23:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] #Congolese !android Tablet? > http://nd.gd/qx Pleasantly surprised! !africa cc @glynmoody @startupkenya @mtwita @tcsmola @bigbrovarJun 27 23:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @x11r5: @sandersch when the kids get up. *Swore* i was going to sufferJun 27 23:57

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