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schestowitz_Goblin: example of distorted sound: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IW-5P5NQgNsJul 16 00:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: ‪TechBytes Episode 55: Google's Growth, Sabayon Linux 6, and Sony-Microsoft - Part 6‬‏       - YouTube .::. Size~: 99.19 KBJul 16 00:01
schestowitz_Goblin: final post almost there, uploadingJul 16 00:05
schestowitz_Goblin: our numbers are going upJul 16 00:11
schestowitzWe didn't do a show for a weekJul 16 00:11
schestowitzBut in the past 5 days:Jul 16 00:11
schestowitz[non-cached]Jul 16 00:11
MinceRgnJul 16 00:12
schestowitz[root@techrights ~]# ./count-mp3.sh Jul 16 00:12
schestowitz   1084   14276  157818Jul 16 00:12
schestowitzThat's not the oggsJul 16 00:12
schestowitzmp3 are downloadersJul 16 00:12
schestowitzso over 200 people a day, even without releasing a new showJul 16 00:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Goldman Sachs's Lloyd Blankfein Should Be Put in Jail" #MaxKeiser http://ur1.ca/4pkp9 #greeceJul 16 00:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The WhiteRose Resistance: MUST WATCH! Max Keiser speaks to lawyers in Athens .::. Size~: 126.76 KBJul 16 00:17
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schestowitzhttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/06/17/adobe_backs_off_air_for_linux/Jul 16 00:24
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Adobe offloads unwanted Linux AIR onto OEMs • The Register .::. Size~: 23.17 KBJul 16 00:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Speaking of #GilligansIsland copyright notices, Sherwood #Schwartz died this week at age 94.Jul 16 00:27
_Goblinschestowitz: thats goodJul 16 00:28
schestowitzfew minutes left, maybe 10Jul 16 00:29
_Goblinschestowitz: my shownotes will be delayed until I get to Sunderland.....Jul 16 00:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] New #Linux #Game Store 'Gameolith' Launches with 5 Indie Titles http://ur1.ca/4pkrpJul 16 00:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] RT @jargon "Are u still imagining there's a german guy on identica who dents a lot?" "No, doc. Those pills work wonders. No more voices ...Jul 16 00:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] RT @jargon @psquid or maybe @fabsh never existed and was a manifestation of social media mass hysteriaJul 16 00:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle: New Linux Game Store 'Gameolith' Launches with 5 Indie Titles ~ Ubuntu Vibes .::. Size~: 119.39 KBJul 16 00:29
schestowitzthe section I posted is example of the worst of distortionsJul 16 00:29
_Goblini'll be retiring for the night shortly....Im driving up at about 8am...Jul 16 00:29
_GoblinI'll be on the netbook though when I get there.....and still posting cola and on the site!Jul 16 00:30
DaemonFCapparently there's a run on incandescent light bulbs nowJul 16 00:33
*DaemonFC doesn't see the pointJul 16 00:33
DaemonFChttp://news.yahoo.com/texas-incandescent-light-bulb-bill-becomes-law-185800535.htmlJul 16 00:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Texas Incandescent Light Bulb Bill Becomes Law - Yahoo! News .::. Size~: 244.74 KBJul 16 00:38
DaemonFComgJul 16 00:38
DaemonFC"However that would seem to be an argument for vetoing the ban. If the prohibition of liquor did not work in the 1920s, a prohibition of light bulbs might suffer the same fate, enriching the pockets of organized crime."Jul 16 00:38
DaemonFCsmuggling black market light bulbs? really? doesn't the mob have anything better to do? ;)Jul 16 00:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !TechBytes Episode 55: Google's Growth, Sabayon Linux 6, and Sony-Microsoft http://ur1.ca/4pkx3 new episode for the weekendJul 16 00:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bytesmedia/@bytesmedia] TechBytes Episode 55: Google's Growth, Sabayon Linux 6, and Sony-Microsoft http://ur1.ca/4pkx3Jul 16 00:39
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: TechBytes Episode 55: Google’s Growth, Sabayon Linux 6, and Sony-Microsoft | Techrights .::. Size~: 103.48 KBJul 16 00:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @wikileaks: "How Wired magazine helped the US government try to frame WikiLeaks." http://t.co/Yj9fs7PJul 16 00:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Jaraparilla: How Wired Magazine Helped The US Government Try To Frame Julian Assange (And Failed) .::. Size~: 81.51 KBJul 16 00:51
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/78869497Jul 16 00:53
TechrightsBot-tr@Danny (tekk)'s status on Friday, 15-Jul-11 23:29:37 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz why are you promoting a #drm infected app store?Jul 16 00:54
DaemonFCcareful, they can sue you for saying app store nowJul 16 01:00
_GoblinRight....thats me done for the night...Jul 16 01:02
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schestowitzDaemonFC: hehJul 16 01:07
schestowitzI can get sued by Apple for using two fingersJul 16 01:07
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8QOJUw_XaQ&feature=digestJul 16 01:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: ‪Westboro Baptist Church RAGE-QUIT (tfoot interview teaser)‬‏       - YouTube .::. Size~: 113.73 KBJul 16 01:14
DaemonFChttp://img405.imageshack.us/img405/4580/snapshot31.pngJul 16 01:16
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DaemonFCLancelot is fixed finallyJul 16 01:16
DaemonFCyay!Jul 16 01:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] RT @laurelrusswurm: rd @Asher_Wolf #Wikileaks Cable: US State Dept Pushes Canada to Spin Tar Sands News http://ur1.ca/4pbx8 #CdnPoliJul 16 01:19
TechrightsBot-trTitle: In a Cable Released by WikiLeaks, State Department Officials Encourage Canada to Spin News Coverage of Tar Sands Pipeline | ThinkProgress .::. Size~: 32.41 KBJul 16 01:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The Westboro Baptist Church seems to be like a #KKK with female spokespeople http://ur1.ca/4plpq http://ur1.ca/4plpr (new ownage)Jul 16 01:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: ‪Thunderf00t -Westboro Baptist Church (full interview)‬‏       - YouTube .::. Size~: 118.12 KBJul 16 01:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: ‪Westboro Baptist Church RAGE-QUIT (tfoot interview teaser)‬‏       - YouTube .::. Size~: 114.45 KBJul 16 01:21
DaemonFC[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The Westboro Baptist Church seems to be like a #KKK with female spokespeopleJul 16 01:25
DaemonFCThe wives and concubines of their cult leader perhapsJul 16 01:25
DaemonFCschestowitz, iirc, most of that "church" is related to one another somehowJul 16 01:27
DaemonFCincest?Jul 16 01:27
DaemonFCGod Hates Fags, but not the children you've father/grandfathered that have webbed feetJul 16 01:29
DaemonFCJesus loves them!Jul 16 01:29
DaemonFCthey need more crosseyed children standing there with picket signs telling me I'm going to hellJul 16 01:30
DaemonFCnot sure they care how they get themJul 16 01:31
DaemonFChttp://www.southbendtribune.com/sbt-gas-war-erupts-along-indiana-933-north-of-south-bend-20110715,0,748957.storyJul 16 01:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Gas war erupts along Indiana 933 north of South Bend - southbendtribune.com .::. Size~: 170.76 KBJul 16 01:33
DaemonFCWalmart declares war on the surrounding gas stations ran by Indian people that don't speak English and make you spend at least $10 to use your credit cardJul 16 01:33
DaemonFCgo Walmart! :PJul 16 01:33
schestowitzgo wallyJul 16 01:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 15/7/2011: Thunderbird In Ubuntu 11.10, Kubuntu With KDE SC 4.7 http://ur1.ca/4plum !techrightsJul 16 01:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Links 15/7/2011: Thunderbird In Ubuntu 11.10, Kubuntu With KDE SC 4.7 http://ur1.ca/4plum #techrightsJul 16 01:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Links 15/7/2011: Thunderbird In Ubuntu 11.10, Kubuntu With KDE SC 4.7 | Techrights .::. Size~: 101.38 KBJul 16 01:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Links 15/7/2011: Thunderbird In Ubuntu 11.10, Kubuntu With KDE SC 4.7 | Techrights .::. Size~: 101.38 KBJul 16 01:39
schestowitzThey paid you wagesJul 16 01:39
schestowitzAnd they taught you how to crush unions :-)Jul 16 01:39
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DaemonFCschestowitz, CRUSH, KILL, DESTROY!!!!!Jul 16 01:58
DaemonFCBLARRGHHH!!!!Jul 16 01:58
DaemonFCBALLMER SMASH!!!!!Jul 16 01:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks news update http://t.co/3rrA4EwJul 16 02:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 2011-07-14 WikiLeaks Notes: Latest News on #Cablegate Releases & #WikiLeaks | WL Central .::. Size~: 23.26 KBJul 16 02:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @wikileaks2: Why activists should concentrate on attack and not defense: It is impossible to correct slanders http://t.co/XmaoFUBJul 16 02:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Setting the record straight almost impossible  › News in Science (ABC Science) .::. Size~: 38.39 KBJul 16 02:26
DaemonFC<DaemonFC> you know.... the NAZIS had anti-smoking programs...Jul 16 02:28
DaemonFC<DaemonFC> B-)Jul 16 02:28
DaemonFC<DaemonFC> (they did)Jul 16 02:28
DaemonFC<Getty> when i dont smoke, i cant concentrate so much on my work, no concentration on my work, no income => no income, less moneyJul 16 02:28
DaemonFC<kent\n> DaemonFC: yeah, they smoked people, not tobacco.Jul 16 02:28
DaemonFC<Getty> LLLOOOOLLLLLLJul 16 02:28
DaemonFC<DaemonFC> that's just wrongJul 16 02:28
DaemonFC<DaemonFC> all that carbon released into the atmosphereJul 16 02:28
DaemonFC<Getty> DaemonFC: now you know why he is the master of trollingJul 16 02:28
DaemonFC<DaemonFC> think about the future for white children!Jul 16 02:28
DaemonFCheheJul 16 02:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Copyright Troll Righthaven Ordered to Pay $5,000 in Sanctions for Its Misrepresentations to Court http://t.co/2yHJul 16 02:44
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lwhi thought ths channel would be bigger!Jul 16 02:51
lwhhow many of you are logbots raise your handJul 16 02:51
lwhis this your main boycottnovell channelJul 16 02:51
lwhi am a groklaw userJul 16 02:52
lwhand longtime irc userJul 16 02:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @fsf: The free game lag: the possibilities for free software video games (by @dpic) -- http://ur1.ca/4pgu6 #gnu #lp #fsf #ccJul 16 02:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Free Game Lag — Free Software Foundation — working together for free software .::. Size~: 26.23 KBJul 16 02:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] agradecemos! ♻ @araceletorres: É uma satisfação poder ajudar o Projeto #GNU com traduções e outras cositas. ;)Jul 16 03:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] @lxoliva a big part of the lag is lack of drivers and fw, I think. on the plus side it makes us fs game devs focus on gameplay :DJul 16 03:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @johnsu01: Selling old computer stuff on eBay? Have a portion of the sale price donated to the FSF: http://ur1.ca/4pjr0 #fsf #gnuJul 16 03:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle: eBay Giving Works - About My Nonprofit - Free Software Foundation .::. Size~: 47.09 KBJul 16 03:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @lxoliva ♻ @johnsu01: Selling old computer stuff on eBay? Have a portion of the sale price donated to the FSF: http://ur1.ca/4pjr0 #f ...Jul 16 03:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Best pun I've seen in simply ages: Borometer http://ur1.ca/4pmphJul 16 03:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Borometer - Puns, Puns, Puns! So Much Pun in Pictures .::. Size~: 52.05 KBJul 16 03:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] úia, que muito legal! ♻ @araceletorres: @lxoliva Te contei que minha pesquisa de mestrado é sobre o Projeto GNU? ;)Jul 16 04:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Sleep well, @cer ... hope you feel betterJul 16 04:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Eurovision's pumping at @heatsynclabs tonight! Come on down and hack like Europeans!Jul 16 05:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal (via @Haris: If Superman really wanted to help people… ) http://ur1.ca/4pn7q /cc @larryrusswurmJul 16 05:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] prof @jorgestolfi, que prazer em vê-lo por aqui! seja bem-vindo ao identi.ca!Jul 16 05:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] today's !InconstantMoon serialization is now online http://ur1.ca/4pn8k !SelfPubJul 16 05:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ... the beautiful tea was courtesy of the "Eggroll King," my favorite Vietnamese restaurant in Kitchener (best chicken fried rice on earth)Jul 16 05:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] Congrats! ♻ @threethirty: #bikerichmond is killing it in the 2011 Bicycle Indiana Commuter Challenge ur1.ca/4pnbl results -> ur1.ca/4pnbhJul 16 05:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] I know only to well how how that goes, @victriviaqueenJul 16 06:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] (1) Ik voorspel dat het helemaal mis gaat met die #ov-chipkaart veel mensen zullen hierdoor in de financiële problemen komen #failJul 16 06:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] (2) de kosten van het openbaar vervoer zijn door de #ov-chipkaart onacceptabel hoog geworden #failJul 16 06:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] (3) waarom nemen we geen voorbeeld aan onze Vlaamse mede Limburgers? In #Hasselt is dat perfect geregeld #Maastricht #Veolia #failJul 16 06:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !TechBytes Episode 55: Ubuntu Not in News, Google All Over the News http://ur1.ca/4pnpeJul 16 07:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] #TechBytes Episode 55: Ubuntu Not in News, Google All Over the News http://ur1.ca/4pnpeJul 16 07:06
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: schestowitz.com  » Blog Archive   » TechBytes Episode 55: Ubuntu Not in News, Google All Over the News .::. Size~: 36.19 KBJul 16 07:06
roy_https://twitter.com/ArkBlitz/status/92068863100985344Jul 16 07:06
TechrightsBot-tr@ArkBlitz: @schestowitz Just checked a YouTube video, and it *finally* supports annotations! I really hope the trend continues.Jul 16 07:06
roy_hi, lwhJul 16 07:07
roy_welcome!Jul 16 07:07
roy_yes, there are 3 or 4 channelsJul 16 07:07
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schestowitzHi, oiaohmJul 16 07:27
schestowitzhttp://donttrysohard.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/tiger-woods-fist-pump_o_gifsoup-com.gifJul 16 07:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Must have been some very clean glass [GIF] http://i.imgur.com/tM4X2.gifJul 16 07:31
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schestowitzhi DrPizzaJul 16 07:44
schestowitzDaemonFC I meantJul 16 07:44
DaemonFC:)Jul 16 07:44
DaemonFChttp://news.yahoo.com/blogs/exclusive/social-security-could-change-under-debt-deal-153756349.htmlJul 16 07:45
TechrightsBot-trTitle: How Social Security could change under debt deal | Exclusives - Yahoo! News .::. Size~: 286.09 KBJul 16 07:45
DaemonFCmore musings about how they're going to fuck over the elderly and the disabledJul 16 07:45
DaemonFCthey're drowning out the news of the debt problem largely with stupid things like what lightbulbs you can buyJul 16 07:46
DaemonFCit's almost surreal how much unimportant crap they can clog the news cycle with to avoid talking about the issuesJul 16 07:46
DaemonFCschestowitz! Fascists, making me spend 40 cents more on a lightbulb that will save me $30 in electricity over the next 5 years!Jul 16 07:47
schestowitzmaybeJul 16 07:48
DaemonFCIf they don't let me buy bulbs that convert 90% of the energy to heat and burn out every couple months, I won't get so many opportunities to drop and break the glass light fixtures or fall from the chair I'm standing on and break my neckJul 16 07:48
schestowitzBut the question is, how much /more/  does using them cost?Jul 16 07:48
DaemonFCI might live to reach retirement age because of CFL light bulbsJul 16 07:48
DaemonFCcan't have thatJul 16 07:48
schestowitzOh, you beat me to it thereJul 16 07:48
schestowitzNot sure about the $30 figureJul 16 07:49
schestowitzUnless electricity is expensive in IndianaJul 16 07:49
DaemonFCthat's what the box claims anywayJul 16 07:49
schestowitzHere my bills are rather lowJul 16 07:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The safest web browser? http://ur1.ca/4pnx4 In English-speaking Wikipedia, 3% of Users Detected as Using #Linux http://ur1.ca/4pnxwJul 16 07:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Don't Surf in the Nude!: The safest web browser? .::. Size~: 77.93 KBJul 16 07:49
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schestowitzSometimes I wonder if I should even bother switching off the stereo and monitors at allJul 16 07:49
DaemonFCschestowitz, One of the people commenting on Lighbulbgate was complaining that the CFLs are made in China and that he wanted American made bulbs when shopping at......wait for it......Jul 16 07:50
DaemonFCWalmartJul 16 07:50
DaemonFC:PJul 16 07:50
schestowitz40 cents for bulbs you say? What type/Jul 16 07:50
DaemonFCschestowitz, incandescent ones are about 60 cents I thinkJul 16 07:50
schestowitzThe US is unlikely to make bulbJul 16 07:50
DaemonFCCFLs are $1 per at the hardware store Jul 16 07:50
schestowitzIt barely has the right materialsJul 16 07:50
schestowitzIn large quantitiesJul 16 07:51
DaemonFCno matter what your energy costs, you're going to end up aheadJul 16 07:51
DaemonFCsome people were talking about cost of the bulbJul 16 07:51
schestowitzsame can be said about many thingsJul 16 07:51
DaemonFCwhich is not that much more and actually pays you back in the long runJul 16 07:52
schestowitzThis is why shaver and clipper I still go with Philips for, despite their patent abuseJul 16 07:52
DaemonFCother people were talking about mercury in a CFLJul 16 07:52
DaemonFCwhich doesn't have that muchJul 16 07:52
schestowitzWhen made in mass quantities it can be a lotJul 16 07:52
schestowitzAnd you may need to break stuff down to reuse itJul 16 07:52
DaemonFCI don't like electric razors Jul 16 07:53
DaemonFCthey make your face feel gritty even after you shaveJul 16 07:53
DaemonFCI still use safety razors, I got an electric one for Christmas or something a few years agoJul 16 07:54
DaemonFCused it a couple times, didn't like itJul 16 07:54
DaemonFCthen there's the replacement heads that are so expensive you may as well just throw the whole unit away and buy a new oneJul 16 07:55
DaemonFCschestowitz, shaving razors are a pretty lucrative business Jul 16 07:55
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DaemonFC:)Jul 16 07:55
DaemonFCdoesn't seem to really matter what kind you haveJul 16 07:56
DaemonFChttp://news.yahoo.com/us-allies-formally-recognize-libya-rebels-182117028.htmlJul 16 07:56
DaemonFChehJul 16 07:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Introducing #Linvo #GNU #Linux http://ur1.ca/4pnzpJul 16 07:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Up Close & Personal with #RedHat CEO James Whitehurst http://ur1.ca/4po0e "the world's leading provider of Linux.."Jul 16 07:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Up Close & Personal with Red Hat CEO James Whitehurst .::. Size~: 61.85 KBJul 16 07:59
DaemonFCschestowitz, What about that Apple injunction against HTC over Android?Jul 16 07:59
DaemonFCdoes that threaten other companies using Android or just HTC?Jul 16 07:59
DaemonFCit smells like Apple is using the patent system to force the court system to declare its competition illegalJul 16 08:00
schestowitz[07:55] <DaemonFC> schestowitz, shaving razors are a pretty lucrative business Jul 16 08:03
schestowitzThey're expenseJul 16 08:03
schestowitzThey're expensiveJul 16 08:03
schestowitzSome of the expensive ones, though, last for a very long timeJul 16 08:04
schestowitzAbouy HTC, yes... Apple is nervousJul 16 08:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #PCLinuxOS 2011.6 !KDE review http://ur1.ca/4po10 "PCLinuxOS has all the tools it needs to be one of the best Linux or BSD desktop distros"Jul 16 08:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: PCLinuxOS 2011.6 KDE review .::. Size~: 103.57 KBJul 16 08:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Pardus 2011.1: Turkish Delight http://ur1.ca/4po20 "Pardus is OS which deserves very close attention." #gnu #linux #turkeyJul 16 08:07
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Pardus 2011.1: Turkish Delight - Linux notes from DarkDuck .::. Size~: 95.88 KBJul 16 08:07
DaemonFCPCLinuxOS still doesn't support X86-64Jul 16 08:10
DaemonFCschestowitz, I was thinking about trying to force the new kwin OpenGL 2 backend on FGLRXJul 16 08:11
DaemonFCbut seeing what happens with software like Firefox makes me question if that's a good ideaJul 16 08:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Kongoni #GNU #Linux 2011 (Firefly) released. http://ur1.ca/4po3p "happy to announce the stable release of Kongoni 2011 (codename Firefly)"Jul 16 08:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: kongoni.org -   Kongoni GNU/Linux 2011 (Firefly) released. .::. Size~: 15.1 KBJul 16 08:14
DaemonFCif I understand this right, I can force the new backend regardless of what driver it detects by setting KWIN_DIRECT_GL=1 as an environment variableJul 16 08:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] IDG's 'open source' blog promotes proprietary software http://ur1.ca/4po4e #lolwot #vmwareJul 16 08:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: vSphere 5's licensing opens the door for open source | Open Source Software - InfoWorld .::. Size~: 102.19 KBJul 16 08:17
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/78892295Jul 16 08:18
TechrightsBot-tr@sinclair (zxsinclair)'s status on Saturday, 16-Jul-11 07:12:53 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz yes - but where can I update with said packages... !kdeJul 16 08:18
schestowitzSitter et al. are working on it (see mailing list)Jul 16 08:18
schestowitz[08:10] <DaemonFC> PCLinuxOS still doesn't support X86-64Jul 16 08:18
schestowitzwhich one? The main one (KDE-based)?Jul 16 08:19
DaemonFCany of themJul 16 08:19
schestowitz!google pclinuxos 6-bitJul 16 08:19
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - [HOW-TO] Sending pictures via E-mail with Thunderbird and Picasa ... | http://www.pclinuxos.com/forum/index.php%3Ftopic%3D79791.0Jul 16 08:19
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - The Linux Experience: PCLinuxOS 2010 Review | http://cristalinux.blogspot.com/2010/04/pclinuxos-2010-review.htmlJul 16 08:19
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - PCLinuxOS - 64bit | http://www.thisweekinlinux.com/forum/index.php%3Ftopic%3D74.0Jul 16 08:19
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - YouTube - Ubuntu Rolling Release? KDE 4.6, PCLinuxOS 64-bit ... | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DTKevJCUcAMUJul 16 08:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #KVM has comparable front ends now, making transition away from #VMware not too hard and ever so affordableJul 16 08:19
DaemonFCthey say use a PAE kernel for > 4 GB RAMJul 16 08:19
DaemonFCwhich is just ridiculousJul 16 08:19
DaemonFCeverytime they make a release I have to ask what year it isJul 16 08:20
DaemonFC:)Jul 16 08:20
DaemonFCLinux has supported X86-64 since 2004Jul 16 08:20
*schestowitz reviews paper from this man's group.. http://arnetminer.org/viewperson.do?naid=663756Jul 16 08:20
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DaemonFCit is not a new architecture Jul 16 08:20
DaemonFCit has nearly as many users as x86 32-bit for Fedora anywayJul 16 08:21
DaemonFCand it has more benefits than just large memory supportJul 16 08:21
DaemonFCa lot of benchmarks improve with that being the only difference between two systemsJul 16 08:21
DaemonFCin fact, the PAE kernel is slower than a regular 32-bit kernel :)Jul 16 08:22
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DaemonFCseems to work OK unless you turn on vsyncJul 16 08:29
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schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/davidgerard/status/92138138423664641?iid=am-4065281413108024188670655&nid=4&uid=26603208Jul 16 08:53
TechrightsBot-tr@davidgerard: @schestowitz that's not 3% of English Wikipedia - that's ALL Wikimedia projects.Jul 16 08:53
schestowitzWhich are mostly accessed (overall) in English-speaking countries. It's still a US project.Jul 16 08:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "[W]hy I threw your crappy products out of my door and migrated to GNU/Linux." http://ur1.ca/4poboJul 16 09:05
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/78895008Jul 16 09:10
TechrightsBot-tr@Daniel Devine (ddevine)'s status on Saturday, 16-Jul-11 08:04:58 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz PCLinuxOS is definitely underrated.Jul 16 09:10
schestowitzLOL http://identi.ca/notice/78895008Jul 16 09:13
TechrightsBot-tr@Daniel Devine (ddevine)'s status on Saturday, 16-Jul-11 08:04:58 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz PCLinuxOS is definitely underrated.Jul 16 09:13
schestowitzhttp://www.geekwire.com/2011/virtual-reality-visionary-jaron-lanier-microsoft-gig-kinect-beautiful-excitingJul 16 09:13
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schestowitzStill works for Microsoft.   http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jaron-lanier/Jul 16 09:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] /me sugar rushJul 16 09:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Gates Keepers applaud the excellent research of Roy Schestowitz." :-) http://ur1.ca/4poj8Jul 16 09:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] triple double you dot hard to understand dot com dot cnJul 16 09:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] contact me at some numbers at qq dot com, sure I got that #ICQ relived !OnlyInChinaJul 16 09:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] argh... sorry to tell you, but the @terasic_fpga product demonstrations are not pleasant to watch :-sJul 16 09:41
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/davidgerard/status/92151757760770048?iid=am-71153098513108056659170352&nid=4&uid=26603208Jul 16 09:52
TechrightsBot-tr@davidgerard: @schestowitz nevertheless, your claim was simply factually incorrect. Non-English usage is far from negligible.Jul 16 09:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #USPTO Drives American Software Developers Away to Other Countries http://ur1.ca/4pond #patents #monopoly #swpats #us #euJul 16 09:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] USPTO Drives American Software Developers Away to Other Countries http://ur1.ca/4pond #oracle #google #innovation #android #vcJul 16 09:52
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schestowitzIt's disproportionately picked, but yes, my phrasing could be a lot better (140 char limit)Jul 16 09:53
oiaohmOppsJul 16 09:55
oiaohmhi schestowitz little lateJul 16 09:55
oiaohmI was bussy doing other things.Jul 16 09:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] National Security Compromised by #Microsoft #Windows http://ur1.ca/4potf #security #server #server #mailJul 16 10:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] National Security Compromised by Microsoft Windows http://ur1.ca/4potf #dod #us #statesecurity #hotmail #emailJul 16 10:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @q4td “The best minds of my generation are thinking about how to make people click ads. That sucks.” — Jeff Hammerbacher !q http://j. ...Jul 16 10:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #NI dismiss #phonehacking claim by #JudeLaw http://is.gd/KI0mFB maybe he's not on the list, or maybe it's the same bullshit lies to deflectJul 16 10:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] apparently their lawyers have found no evidence, were they the same lawyers who insisted it was an isolated case of one rogue reporter? #NIJul 16 10:36
schestowitzhttp://mrpogson.com/2011/07/15/that-other-os-is-sinking-fast/Jul 16 10:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] #Asus EeePad #Transformer shipmemts reach 400,000 per month > http://nd.gd/sc !android cc @nj3ma @kelzOKO @RamanusAsango @fredmanglisJul 16 10:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] #Asus EeePad #Transformer shipmemts reach 400,000 per month > http://nd.gd/sc !android cc @androidKE @kenyandroid @dennismungai @vikgoraniJul 16 10:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Kogan #Agora PRO review http://ur1.ca/4pp35 "with 11.6in screen and Ubuntu 11.04 operating system."Jul 16 11:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Another new laptop with #gnu #linux http://ur1.ca/4pp3aJul 16 11:06
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schestowitzASUS Preinstalls GNU/LinuxJul 16 11:14
schestowitzhttp://www.onlineprnews.com/news/154580-1310715372-liquid-technologies-release-liquid-fast-infoset-net-for-use-in-open-source-projects-under-the-gnu.htmlJul 16 11:15
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schestowitz.net .. gnuJul 16 11:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] In 2008, Bank of America received billion from the people, in 2010 BoA banned the people from transferring funds to Wikileaks.Jul 16 11:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Toshiba Thrive: Boxy, but it's good. http://ur1.ca/4pp6y "another “me too” in the Android space, the Thrive." #linuxJul 16 11:29
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schestowitzhttp://www.lightreading.com/document.asp?doc_id=180257&site=lr_cableJul 16 11:35
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schestowitzOh, this I did not know...Jul 16 11:35
schestowitzExplains why the co-foudner is still ina cademiaJul 16 11:36
schestowitzAnd techrights wrote about them in relation to patents and IVJul 16 11:36
schestowitzhttp://www.google.com/search?hl=en&site=&q=Novafora+site:techrights.org&btnG=SearchJul 16 11:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Novafora site:techrights.org - Google Search .::. Size~: 87.68 KBJul 16 11:36
schestowitzhttp://www.linkedin.com/company/novaforaJul 16 11:37
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schestowitzhopefully they won'\t auction patents to trollsJul 16 11:37
schestowitzLike transmetaJul 16 11:37
schestowitzOne works for http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_LuganoJul 16 11:38
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schestowitzOnly a 15 year old instuituteJul 16 11:38
schestowitzNever heard of it..Jul 16 11:38
schestowitz"Jul 16 11:39
schestowitzDoctoral studentsJul 16 11:39
schestowitz147[1]Jul 16 11:39
schestowitz"Jul 16 11:39
schestowitz"Jul 16 11:39
schestowitzEndowmentJul 16 11:39
schestowitzCHF 60 millionJul 16 11:39
schestowitz"Jul 16 11:39
schestowitzOh, Is see now... http://www.betanews.com/article/Transmeta-agrees-to-Novafora-acquisition/1226960707Jul 16 11:40
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schestowitzAnd then they sold the patents to Microsoft's patent troll, IVJul 16 11:40
schestowitzWhat a disgraceJul 16 11:40
schestowitz"Both boards of directors have signed off on the deal, the terms of which include a stipulation that Transmeta will not enter into any future licensing transactions without Novafora's consent. In related news, Transmeta also announced today that it has entered into a non-exclusive patent license agreement with chipmaker AMD (Advanced Micro Devices)"Jul 16 11:42
schestowitz"Sources say Novafora has ceased operations less than eight months after the company closed a deal to acquire Transmeta Corp. Back on July 30, PEHub, a Thomson Reuters site, reported that all 40 employees had been let go and that the company was selling its Transmeta assets. "Jul 16 11:42
schestowitz" An analyst at Algorithm Capital was then quick to point out that Transmeta's technology portfolio cost more than $400 million to develop over a period of about 10 years."Jul 16 11:43
schestowitzAll they are is a pile of patents, it seems...Jul 16 11:44
schestowitzAnd IV is now suing companies using hafware patentsJul 16 11:44
schestowitzPartly from companies like thseJul 16 11:44
schestowitzRacket operationsJul 16 11:44
schestowitz“What was it they were producing, again? "Jul 16 11:45
schestowitzPatentJul 16 11:45
schestowitzhttp://jefro.wordpress.com/2009/08/10/transmeta-news-novafora-rip/Jul 16 11:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @ddevine: Author of software loggs into IRC. Author sees me. Author logs out. -- Ouch!Jul 16 12:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] 16th July. If you're holding a 2010 !Kenyan currency note, you will note that it was issued on 16th July last year.Jul 16 12:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @Lord_G_Almighty: Prayer from Rupert Murdoch. Told him to leave a voicemail.Jul 16 12:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RD @mcnalu @debianusersgang Happy 18th #birthday, #Slackware! :) #linuxJul 16 12:11
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/koolhead17/status/92170480848617472?iid=am-167106996113108101298921433&nid=4&uid=26603208Jul 16 12:11
TechrightsBot-tr@koolhead17: @schestowitz Do you know what Bill & Milinda foundation doing in India on name of healthcare in name of there NGO!! http://t.co/W7iTFHVJul 16 12:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RD @anima109 Cool #choqok is a fun microblogging client. Is fun to use. #kubuntu #awesomeJul 16 12:12
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2009/07/26/gates-business-trip-in-india/ http://techrights.org/2009/10/19/gmo-patent-investments/ http://techrights.org/2010/04/19/opposition-silenced-or-suppressed/Jul 16 12:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Last year's currency, the July 16th 2010 issue ,will be the last currency notes bearing the potrait of a person as per the new constitutionJul 16 12:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RD @mknepher is !gwibber 3.1 going to be ubuntu-only? Trying to compile on !fedora 15 and it's asking for unity [I really hope not]Jul 16 12:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RD @firusvg Hell, updating #facebook #android app was ber-fail. Doesn't work anymore on my #Huawei U8110. Reverting back to stock appJul 16 12:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @nj3ma: Last year's currency, will be the last currency notes bearing the potrait of a person as per the new constitutionJul 16 12:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RD @schestowitz National Security Compromised by #Microsoft #Windows http://ur1.ca/4potf #security #server #server #mailJul 16 12:22
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schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/78905232Jul 16 12:26
TechrightsBot-tr@silner (silner)'s status on Saturday, 16-Jul-11 11:24:15 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Interesting blog. How long has it been going?Jul 16 12:26
schestowitzSeveral years now. Its anonymous author got in touch with me over a year ago.Jul 16 12:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] About a month ago I started making use of YouTube, uploading about 600 video, mostly of old stuff http://ur1.ca/4pphd when is #WebM coming?Jul 16 12:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @gomerx @maloki You really think there are people outside the !Identiverse?Jul 16 12:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] BBC: Is the US government at War with Whistleblowers? (take care, two can play) http://t.co/fzB4UHKJul 16 12:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] One of the complaints you might hear from #Chromebook users is that they can't open archives /by @Chituuuu http://ur1.ca/4ppk1Jul 16 12:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I must confess, I hadn't realized that; why let such an easy to solve issue go unsolved, !Google ?Jul 16 12:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] The use of per, and as per. Never feels right using "as per"Jul 16 12:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] ♻ @eebrah RT @Lord_G_Almighty: Prayer from Rupert Murdoch. Told him to leave a voicemail.Jul 16 12:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] shouldn't watch #Discovery. Now I want to try #Kaya toast!Jul 16 12:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] nice! I've been advocating sites/arrangements like this as a sensible and fair alternative to © RD @crosbie http://ur1.ca/4ppltJul 16 12:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Quoth @firusvg to me: Looks like your client doesn't handle Unicode well - where is umlaut "u" ? ;) cc @psquid re !identicurseJul 16 12:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] channels on 113E have been messed up since yesterday. at least I noticed some other channels I didn't know aboutJul 16 13:02
schestowitzhttp://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/Chrome-OS-gets-hacked-via-ScratchPad-extension/?kc=rssJul 16 13:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] The Dark Side of Distrohopping • by Jim Lynch http://ping.fm/cCq9QJul 16 13:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !Debian 7 might come in a !GNU Hurd version - Digit http://ping.fm/91cXyJul 16 13:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[hisdudeness/@hisdudeness] RT @neutralina Julian #Assange in Press Conference After His Extradition Appeal Hearing fdl.me/ndPRWj !wikileaks !UK !politicsJul 16 13:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] via Grok | !Google Code Hosting Now Supports Git http://ping.fm/kArvoJul 16 13:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !Google Code Hosting Now Supports Git http://code.google.com/p/support/wiki/GettingStartedJul 16 13:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] last link came via @merlyn on TwitterJul 16 13:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Computer Search and Seizure: A Three-Panel Cartoon • by rainey http://ping.fm/fBk8LJul 16 13:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] > @nsmadlinx #politics #security I'm Confused! Pentagon wants more "resilient" networks but no mention of heterogenous sw ..Jul 16 13:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] > .. http://ur1.ca/4pdlyJul 16 13:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Googleplex fuck yeah, spidering the web to save the muthafuckin' day yeahJul 16 13:46
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schestowitzThis one sounds dubious http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/Google-secondquarter-2011-earnings-and-Flurry-report/?kc=rssJul 16 13:59
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schestowitzI think the opposite is trueJul 16 13:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Just posted Baja in a galsheet commercial @eebrah @krisibrisi @kelzoko @mosesmutukuJul 16 13:59
DrPizzaI don't.Jul 16 14:09
DrPizzaGoogle made a big mistake shipping 3.0 in the state it shipped.Jul 16 14:09
DrPizzaFragmentation is a major headache for developers, and though there are new plans to reduce it in the future, they do nothing for the existing installed base.Jul 16 14:10
DrPizzaDevelopers have also found it consistently hard to monetize Android Market, for various reasons (though ad-funded software tends to do better)Jul 16 14:11
schestowitzhow is iOS better in that regard?Jul 16 14:16
DrPizzaI mean, it's not like Android development is going to disappear overnight or anything... but I think it's likely that high profile and commercial developers will continue to pick iOS as their primary/first platformJul 16 14:16
DrPizzaiOS: much fewer fragmentation/compatibility problemsJul 16 14:16
schestowitzthe "Fragmentation" thing?Jul 16 14:16
DrPizzaiOS: much fewer piracy problemsJul 16 14:16
schestowitzpiracy?Jul 16 14:16
DrPizzaiOS: a tablet that's not godawfulJul 16 14:16
schestowitzYou mean, illegal copyingJul 16 14:16
schestowitzAndroid-based tablets catch up in terms of salesJul 16 14:17
DrPizzaiOS: a store that's semi-trustworthy and not distributing malwareJul 16 14:17
schestowitzDigiTimes gave some figures this monthJul 16 14:17
DrPizzaAndroid-based tablets are currently blown away by the iPadJul 16 14:17
schestowitzApple is just suing nowJul 16 14:17
DrPizzaAndroid 3.0 was never good enoughJul 16 14:17
schestowitzthe gap is being narrowedJul 16 14:17
DrPizzaI think Google really damaged Android in the tablet space with 3.0Jul 16 14:17
schestowitz%-wiseJul 16 14:17
DrPizzaThey should have waited longerJul 16 14:17
DrPizzaAnd shipped something higher qualityJul 16 14:18
schestowitziPad is something some people avoidJul 16 14:18
schestowitzI can find you an article from Taiwan about itJul 16 14:18
DrPizzaschestowitz: google gaining 1% would be "narrowing the gap", but it still leaves Apple with 99%.Jul 16 14:18
schestowitzNoJul 16 14:18
schestowitzSoemthing like40%Jul 16 14:18
DrPizzaApple's selling every iPad it can make.Jul 16 14:18
schestowitzRemember:Jul 16 14:18
schestowitzCisco and others and enteringJul 16 14:18
schestowitzThey have niche marketsJul 16 14:18
schestowitzNot iPad 2Jul 16 14:18
DrPizzaApple is selling every iPad 2 it can make.Jul 16 14:18
schestowitzSome medical stuff, admin, etc.Jul 16 14:18
schestowitzThat's what Apple saysJul 16 14:19
schestowitzDon't take it at face valueJul 16 14:19
schestowitzMany companies do the whole pre-sale stuff and demand pretence for hype, scarcity being fakedJul 16 14:19
schestowitzI'm sure Apple could contract/create another factor if there's a market for itJul 16 14:20
DrPizzaApple owns the channel, they can't sell into it.Jul 16 14:20
DrPizzaApple's sales figures are probably better than most, in that regard.Jul 16 14:20
schestowitzowns which channel?Jul 16 14:20
schestowitzHardware?Jul 16 14:20
schestowitzApple contracts companiesJul 16 14:20
DrPizza??Jul 16 14:20
schestowitzApple doesn't make hardwareJul 16 14:20
DrPizzano...Jul 16 14:20
DrPizza...Jul 16 14:20
schestowitzIt sells itJul 16 14:20
schestowitzbrands itJul 16 14:20
schestowitzmaybe designsJul 16 14:20
DrPizzaThis is standard terminology for god's sake.Jul 16 14:20
schestowitzBut for material it has companies in east China doing the contractsJul 16 14:21
DrPizzaWhat the hell does that have to do with anything?Jul 16 14:21
schestowitzscarcityJul 16 14:21
DrPizzaWhat?Jul 16 14:21
schestowitzApple could get more factories to manufacture the stuffJul 16 14:21
schestowitzTo say "we could even sell more" is hypeJul 16 14:21
schestowitzI bet you could go out and buy one nowJul 16 14:21
DrPizzaI'm sure I could.Jul 16 14:21
schestowitzNintendo and others play the same gamesJul 16 14:21
schestowitzfake shortagesJul 16 14:22
schestowitz!google fake shortageJul 16 14:22
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - YouTube - iPhone Shortage Stupid Business Move Of The Week‏ | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DZN5pXcvNG1QJul 16 14:22
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Labor market fraud – the fake shortage of scientists and engineers ... | http://wasatchecon.wordpress.com/2011/05/31/labor-market-fraud-the-fake-shortage-of-scientists-and-engineers/Jul 16 14:22
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Dailymotion - Gas Agencies Gaming with Customers @ Twin Cityes ... | http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xji0x2_gas-agencies-gaming-with-customers-twin-cityes-making-fake-shortage_newsJul 16 14:22
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Fake pilots: Manpower shortage at DGCA to blame - Times Of India | http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2011-03-24/mumbai/29182346_1_fake-pilots-pilot-licence-dgca-officialJul 16 14:22
DrPizzaThey're not "fake" shortages.Jul 16 14:22
DrPizzaBuilding factories takes time.Jul 16 14:22
DrPizzaAnd it's uneconomical for short-term shortages.Jul 16 14:22
schestowitzyou can rescaleJul 16 14:22
schestowitzyou don't need new factoriesJul 16 14:22
schestowitzThe components are standardJul 16 14:22
schestowitzExcept the casingJul 16 14:22
DrPizzaOr the CPUsJul 16 14:22
DrPizzaOr the batteriesJul 16 14:22
schestowitzThe processor maker could find places to make theseJul 16 14:22
schestowitzIntel has many fabsJul 16 14:22
schestowitzit even does ARM'sJul 16 14:23
DrPizzaIntel's process is unique to Intel, its not simply a case of giving Intel the designs and then saying "make these"Jul 16 14:23
DrPizzaThere is verification and validation requiredJul 16 14:23
schestowitzMatter is, in a free market they can expand to find someone willing to make money by making the stuffJul 16 14:23
schestowitzGive an example of real major shortageJul 16 14:23
DrPizzaBut it's not necessarily worth the CapEx.Jul 16 14:23
schestowitzJapan's flood cause someJul 16 14:24
schestowitzBut not related to thisJul 16 14:24
DrPizzaThe Wii shortages were real.Jul 16 14:24
schestowitzlet me find an article for you..Jul 16 14:24
DrPizzaIf an expansion of manufacturing capacity will either take too long or cost more than the revenue it can generate, it's not worth expanding.Jul 16 14:26
DrPizzaThat doesn't mean that the shortage is "fake".Jul 16 14:26
schestowitzhttp://mrpogson.com/2011/07/07/first-androidlinux-trampled-the-iphone-now-its-overtaking-the-ipad/Jul 16 14:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle: First Android/Linux Trampled the iPhone. Now It’s Overtaking the iPad at  Robert Pogson .::. Size~: 38.43 KBJul 16 14:27
schestowitzGlyn Moody says the sameJul 16 14:27
schestowitzThere's data to support h trendJul 16 14:27
schestowitzAndroid didn't even target tablets much until 3.xJul 16 14:27
DrPizzaIt didnt target them at allJul 16 14:27
DrPizzaGoogle's stance was that nobody should use 2.x for tablets.Jul 16 14:27
schestowitzbut some tried itJul 16 14:27
DrPizzaSome people didJul 16 14:27
schestowitzDell for exampleJul 16 14:27
DrPizzaBut Google said you shouldn'tJul 16 14:27
schestowitz1.5 on a phone-bletJul 16 14:27
schestowitzThen Google started facilitating itJul 16 14:28
schestowitzAnyway, consider this:Jul 16 14:28
schestowitzlast year Android was nowhere in this growing marketJul 16 14:28
DrPizzaThat link is useless, it's a forecast.Jul 16 14:28
schestowitzNow there are many Android tabletsJul 16 14:28
schestowitzAnd they are made cause they have potetialJul 16 14:28
schestowitzNot as an experiment or "because it's fun"Jul 16 14:28
DrPizzaNobody buys because of "potential".Jul 16 14:28
schestowitzWill you be willing to agree it's something to watch out for?Jul 16 14:29
schestowitzAnd that developers of Android still target the fast-growing and biggest selling mobile platform?Jul 16 14:29
schestowitzThat's why I found the stats rather dubiousJul 16 14:29
DrPizzaI'm sure Android tablets will increase their shareJul 16 14:29
schestowitzDevelopers previously flocked ton Android, and Android is growingJul 16 14:29
DrPizzaI mean, really.Jul 16 14:29
DrPizza"The only way is up"Jul 16 14:29
schestowitzI don't see why they'd defect back now that Android overtook AppleJul 16 14:29
schestowitzIt's a hard story to sellJul 16 14:29
DrPizzaiPad/iPad 2 is currently so dominant in that marketJul 16 14:29
schestowitzIt is dominant, yesJul 16 14:30
DrPizzaschestowitz: because they're in it for money and prestige, and they feel that Apple can deliver more of bothJul 16 14:30
schestowitzBut it faces challengesJul 16 14:30
schestowitzToo many large companies going after it and Android evolving fastJul 16 14:30
schestowitzWhy would a developer go to a company that has resorted to lawsuits?Jul 16 14:30
DrPizzalolJul 16 14:31
DrPizzaWhy would a developer care?Jul 16 14:31
DrPizzaIn fact, that makes devs even more likely to go for iOSJul 16 14:31
schestowitzThey would for many reasonsJul 16 14:31
schestowitzBut that's a long discussion to haveJul 16 14:31
DrPizzaWhy would you pick Android if it looks like Android handset companies are going to take a beating due to their patent infringement?Jul 16 14:31
DrPizzaDon't you think that might jeopardize Android's market position?Jul 16 14:31
schestowitziOS developers got sued by LodsysJul 16 14:32
DrPizzaLike, what if (worst-case) Apple got an injunction against HTC and could bar their import into the US?Jul 16 14:32
schestowitzThere's not much relevance when it comes to the platform itself if you're a devJul 16 14:32
DrPizzaAndroid devs are just as vulnerable to the Lodsys patentsJul 16 14:32
schestowitzI don't think devs are impressed by embargoesJul 16 14:32
schestowitzAt best, they're apatheticJul 16 14:33
DrPizzaIt's not a question of being "impressed".Jul 16 14:33
schestowitzAnd APple won't pull this offJul 16 14:33
schestowitz!google apple fired legal councilJul 16 14:33
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - GRAMMAR and LANGUAGE | http://commfaculty.fullerton.edu/tclanin/comm332/Lectures/grammar.pdfJul 16 14:33
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Apple Chief Patent Lawyer Leaves After Android Loss - Slashdot | http://apple.slashdot.org/story/11/07/12/1749255/Apple-Chief-Patent-Lawyer-Leaves-After-Android-LossJul 16 14:33
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Microsoft to Apple: Your Font Is Too Small | http://www.insidecounsel.com/2011/03/10/microsoft-to-apple-your-font-is-too-smallJul 16 14:33
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - General Counsel for N.J. Public Employee Relations Group Fired | http://www.law.com/jsp/cc/PubArticleCC.jsp%3Fid%3D1202479865857Jul 16 14:33
schestowitzApple did a Plan BJul 16 14:33
schestowitzDoesn't mean that ITC woul;d banJul 16 14:33
schestowitzIt rarely doesJul 16 14:33
schestowitzit's a FUD ana sanctions tacticJul 16 14:33
DrPizzaNo, but it could.Jul 16 14:33
schestowitzTo make the opposition give up without a trialJul 16 14:33
DrPizzaOr it could charge big fines and drive up the cost of Android devices.Jul 16 14:34
schestowitzwhen was the last time ITC banned AndroidJul 16 14:34
DrPizzaLots of things can happen that would make Android less attractive to consumers.Jul 16 14:34
schestowitzOr for that matter, does it actually ban much?Jul 16 14:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] What's the consensus on this !Mozilla !Firefox #BrowserID http://ur1.ca/4pmyn ? I don't know enough to have an informed opinion yetJul 16 14:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Mozilla's BrowserID aims to simplify authentication on the Web .::. Size~: 33.57 KBJul 16 14:34
schestowitzITC is like the daddy a kid brings to class to scare the class bullyJul 16 14:34
DrPizzaschestowitz: Qualcomm was the big oneJul 16 14:34
schestowitzThe bully won't fight with the dadJul 16 14:34
DrPizzaITC banned import of any device using Qualcomm chips.Jul 16 14:34
schestowitzThat's hardwareJul 16 14:35
DrPizzaSo?Jul 16 14:35
schestowitzaND IT\S A FAMOUS CASEJul 16 14:35
schestowitzoops, capsJul 16 14:35
DrPizzaIndeed it is.Jul 16 14:35
DrPizzaBut it shows that the ITC can, and does, ban.Jul 16 14:35
schestowitzThere's also the famous Rambus caseJul 16 14:35
DrPizzaAnd that these bans can be substanital.Jul 16 14:35
schestowitzThese are hardwareJul 16 14:35
DrPizzaSo?Jul 16 14:35
schestowitzSoftware bans are hardJul 16 14:35
schestowitzBecause software is not.. well, hard :-)Jul 16 14:36
schestowitzDrPizza: but the precedence is weak on the soft sideJul 16 14:36
DrPizzaIt rather depends on what HTC does in response.Jul 16 14:36
schestowitzit bought some patentsJul 16 14:36
DrPizzaAnd what harm Apple can demonstrate.Jul 16 14:36
schestowitz!google htc 30 patentsJul 16 14:36
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Apple Files New iPhone Patent Infringement Suits Against HTC ... | http://allthingsd.com/20100623/apple-sues-htc-over-two-more-patents/Jul 16 14:36
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Apple Sues Google Nexus One Maker HTC for iPhone Patent ... | http://allthingsd.com/20100302/apple-sues-htc/Jul 16 14:36
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - HTC Shores Up In Legal Fights With 30K-Patent Deal | mocoNews | http://moconews.net/article/419-htc-shores-up-in-legal-fights-with-30k-patent-deal/Jul 16 14:36
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Apple gets partial win in HTC patent case | TUAW - The Unofficial ... | http://www.tuaw.com/2011/07/15/apple-gets-partial-win-in-htc-patent-case/Jul 16 14:36
schestowitznumbers don't index well.Jul 16 14:37
schestowitzAnd patents too broadJul 16 14:37
schestowitzAnyway, HTC is still fighting this and Apple still has trouble with Moto and SamsungJul 16 14:37
schestowitzIf Apple's plan is "We'll ban all tablets that compete with us," then it's a miserable planJul 16 14:37
schestowitzThen it needs to take on HPJul 16 14:38
schestowitzWith PreJul 16 14:38
DrPizzaObviously no risk o an ITC injunction for MotoJul 16 14:38
schestowitzHP has far more patents than AppleJul 16 14:38
DrPizzaBut Samsung would be vulnerable tooJul 16 14:38
schestowitzAPple is wasting time nowJul 16 14:38
schestowitzit should make products, less lawsuitsJul 16 14:38
schestowitz!gogle jobs two fingers patentJul 16 14:38
DrPizzaIt does make productsJul 16 14:38
DrPizzathey lead the market.Jul 16 14:38
schestowitz!google jobs two fingers patentJul 16 14:38
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - One Finger OK, But Only Steve Jobs Can Use Two | Mother Jones | http://motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2011/07/one-finger-ok-only-steve-jobs-can-use-two-fingersJul 16 14:38
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Apple wins multi-touch patent- The Inquirer | http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1050655/apple-wins-multi-touch-patentJul 16 14:38
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Apple Wins Broad Patent on iPhone Multi-Touch User Interface ... | http://www.macrumors.com/2011/06/22/apple-wins-wide-ranging-patent-on-iphone-user-interface/Jul 16 14:38
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Apple Wins Broad Patent on iPhone Multi-Touch User Interface | http://financialbin.com/2011/06/22/apple-wins-broad-patent-on-iphone-multi-touch-user-interface/Jul 16 14:38
schestowitzDrPizza: they don'tJul 16 14:38
schestowitztheir market cap is highJul 16 14:39
DrPizzaThey do.Jul 16 14:39
schestowitzBut their share is notJul 16 14:39
DrPizzaTheir share of profit is high.Jul 16 14:39
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schestowitzThey only ship about 4% of PCsJul 16 14:39
schestowitzBased on their SEC filingsJul 16 14:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Does this mean Microsoft is arbitrarily restricting the use of the computer owner's memory? The owner has paid good... http://b1t.it/rz6Jul 16 14:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Post by Silner Wilner .::. Size~: 36.57 KBJul 16 14:39
DrPizzalolJul 16 14:39
schestowitzTrueJul 16 14:39
schestowitzI laugh at them tooJul 16 14:39
DrPizzaI'm laughing at you.Jul 16 14:39
schestowitzno needJul 16 14:39
DrPizzaYou think they're lying about their profit now?Jul 16 14:39
schestowitzI'm flattered even without you laughing Jul 16 14:39
schestowitznoJul 16 14:40
schestowitzThey're selling to rich peollJul 16 14:40
schestowitzThat's their nicheJul 16 14:40
schestowitzPeople with more money than brainJul 16 14:40
DrPizzaPretty big "niche".Jul 16 14:40
schestowitzdepends what you meausreJul 16 14:40
DrPizzaThey have the bestselling smartphones.Jul 16 14:40
schestowitzMoneyJul 16 14:40
DrPizzaBestselling tablets.Jul 16 14:40
schestowitzor NumbersJul 16 14:40
DrPizzaBothJul 16 14:40
GoForbes28They already restrain total HD space. IJul 16 14:40
schestowitzSame for serversJul 16 14:40
GoForbes28m not surprisedJul 16 14:40
schestowitzGartner and IDC use this spin to lieJul 16 14:40
DrPizzaNo handset sells as many units as the iPhone modelsJul 16 14:40
schestowitzThey measure just revenueJul 16 14:41
schestowitzNot real shareJul 16 14:41
schestowitzAnd this way they can pretend Linux is smallJul 16 14:41
schestowitzDevelopers want to popularise their codeJul 16 14:41
schestowitzMBAs want moneyJul 16 14:41
schestowitzSo it depends on one's objectiveJul 16 14:41
schestowitzFree software strives not for money firstJul 16 14:41
DrPizzaMoney is what keeps businesses in business. Jul 16 14:41
DrPizzaNot market share.Jul 16 14:41
schestowitzWho said business?Jul 16 14:41
schestowitzPeople code not just for businessJul 16 14:42
schestowitzAnd Linux doesn't egenrate profit directlyJul 16 14:42
DrPizzaThe code needs actual hardware to run on.Jul 16 14:42
schestowitzCompanies sell stuff around itJul 16 14:42
schestowitzAnd Linux is still around and very strongJul 16 14:42
schestowitzDrPizza: it doesJul 16 14:42
schestowitzAnd this is relevant how?Jul 16 14:42
DrPizza???Jul 16 14:42
schestowitz!!!Jul 16 14:42
GoForbes28***Jul 16 14:42
schestowitz:-)Jul 16 14:42
DrPizzaPeople aren't just making hardware for free.Jul 16 14:42
schestowitzRightJul 16 14:43
DrPizzaIt comes from... businesses.Jul 16 14:43
schestowitzANd..?Jul 16 14:43
DrPizzaAnd businesses need money.Jul 16 14:43
schestowitzBirds fly.Jul 16 14:43
schestowitzYes, and people need foodJul 16 14:43
DrPizzaAnd guess what? The only company making serious money from smartphones is... Apple.Jul 16 14:43
schestowitzMany companies sell hardwareJul 16 14:43
schestowitzHTC, Samsung..Jul 16 14:43
schestowitzAnd...Jul 16 14:43
schestowitz!google google record profitJul 16 14:43
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - BBC NEWS | Business | Google sees record $1.6bn profit | http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8309920.stmJul 16 14:43
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Google profit soars on record quarterly revenue | Inquirer Business | http://business.inquirer.net/7043/google-profit-soars-on-record-quarterly-revenueJul 16 14:43
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Google profit soars on record quarterly revenue - FRANCE 24 | http://www.france24.com/en/20110714-google-profit-soars-record-quarterly-revenueJul 16 14:43
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Google profit soars on record quarterly revenue - Yahoo! News | http://news.yahoo.com/google-profit-soars-record-quarterly-revenue-202800525.htmlJul 16 14:43
GoForbes28That's the point of a healthy economyJul 16 14:44
schestowitzSo there does the sort of ideas you try to push againstJul 16 14:44
GoForbes28many distributors making enough moneyJul 16 14:44
DrPizzaGoogle just resells other people's hardwareJul 16 14:44
schestowitzGoogle gives its platform away for freeJul 16 14:44
DrPizzaGoForbes28: In the smartphone world, many distributors arent making enough moneyJul 16 14:44
schestowitzFunny, isn't it?Jul 16 14:44
DrPizzaLG, SE.Jul 16 14:44
DrPizzaIt does?Jul 16 14:44
schestowitzIt's not Nexus that makes them $Jul 16 14:44
DrPizzaWhere can I get the source to AdSense?Jul 16 14:44
DrPizzaDoesn't look free to meJul 16 14:44
GoForbes28DrPizza: Then they have to make better or more hardware, that simple.Jul 16 14:44
schestowitzwho said adsense?Jul 16 14:45
DrPizzaThat's google's platform.Jul 16 14:45
DrPizzaAdSense and AdWordsJul 16 14:45
schestowitzGoogle uses the platform to sell stuff around itJul 16 14:45
schestowitzThat was my earlier pointJul 16 14:45
DrPizzaand it's not at all freeJul 16 14:45
schestowitzYou only reinforce my pointJul 16 14:45
DrPizza...Jul 16 14:45
schestowitzBecause Google's Android is a common carrierJul 16 14:45
DrPizzaYou claimed that Google gives its platform away for free.Jul 16 14:45
DrPizzaIt doesn't.Jul 16 14:46
DrPizzaIt keeps it under lock and key.Jul 16 14:46
schestowitzNot only hardware pays money to devsJul 16 14:46
schestowitzYou're using bair and switch hereJul 16 14:46
schestowitzWe're talking about AndroidJul 16 14:46
schestowitzAnd now you mix that with other tingsJul 16 14:46
DrPizzayou said google's "platform"Jul 16 14:47
schestowitzThe point you mentioned is profit from smartphonesJul 16 14:47
DrPizzaGoogle's "platform" ain't AndroidJul 16 14:47
schestowitzAnd I said Google too makes profit from itJul 16 14:47
schestowitzIt can use people's phones to increase ad income for exampleJul 16 14:47
schestowitz[14:47] <DrPizza> Google's "platform" ain't AndroidJul 16 14:47
schestowitzI see what you did thereJul 16 14:47
schestowitzAnd Microsoft's business isn't softwareJul 16 14:47
DrPizzaIf you mean Android say AndroidJul 16 14:47
schestowitzIt;'s marketing and rackteeringJul 16 14:47
GoForbes28DrPizza: Google has many platformsJul 16 14:47
DrPizzaGoForbes28: Google has one platform; advertising.Jul 16 14:48
schestowitzRiiight..Jul 16 14:48
DrPizzaEverything else is incidentalJul 16 14:48
schestowitzLEt's ignore gmailJul 16 14:48
schestowitzand let's ignore WaveJul 16 14:48
DrPizzalolJul 16 14:48
DrPizzaWave is dead dudeJul 16 14:48
schestowitzAnd so many other platformsJul 16 14:48
schestowitzincludes PlusJul 16 14:48
schestowitzAnd then just pretend they all boil down to blinking lader adsJul 16 14:48
DrPizzaThose things only exist to support advertising.Jul 16 14:48
schestowitz*ladderJul 16 14:49
GoForbes28I think he's trying to boil everything downJul 16 14:49
schestowitzDrPizza: sighJul 16 14:49
DrPizzaschestowitz: Plus is there because Google doesn't want everyone to view the Internet through FacebookJul 16 14:49
GoForbes28Well in that case, GM's platform is manufacturingJul 16 14:49
DrPizzaGiving Facebook the ads.Jul 16 14:49
GoForbes28sighJul 16 14:49
schestowitzAnd hunting only exists to provide entertainmentJul 16 14:49
DrPizzaGoogle is explicit about this!Jul 16 14:49
DrPizzaRead Steven Levy's piece about Plus's development.Jul 16 14:49
schestowitzSalon?Jul 16 14:50
DrPizzaIf Facebook becomes the portal into the Web, rather than Google-powered search, Google takes a hammeringJul 16 14:50
DrPizzaWired.Jul 16 14:50
schestowitzNo thanksJul 16 14:50
schestowitz!google ired wikileaks framing Jul 16 14:50
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - How Wired Magazine Tried (And Failed) To Help The US Government ... | http://wlcentral.org/node/2029Jul 16 14:50
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - wikileaks: &quot;How Wired magazine helped the US government try ... | http://infofeeder.info/latest-information/105127-wikileaks-aquothow-wired-magazine-helped-the-us-government-try-to-frame-wikileaksaquot-httptcoyj9fs7pJul 16 14:50
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - wikileaks - Icerocket Buzz Search | http://wikileaks.icerocket.com/Jul 16 14:50
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Media : WikiLeaks | http://deoxy.org/media/WikiLeaksJul 16 14:50
schestowitz!google wired wikileaks framing Jul 16 14:50
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - wikileaks: &quot;How Wired magazine helped the US government try ... | http://infofeeder.info/latest-information/105127-wikileaks-aquothow-wired-magazine-helped-the-us-government-try-to-frame-wikileaksaquot-httptcoyj9fs7pJul 16 14:50
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - WikiLeaks Associates Appeal Twitter Records Demand ... - Wired | http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2011/03/wikileaks-twitter-again/Jul 16 14:50
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Prosecutors Defend Probe of WikiLeaks-Related Twitter Accounts - Wired | http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2011/04/wikileaks-twitter-feds/Jul 16 14:50
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - How Wired Magazine Tried (And Failed) To Help The US Government ... | http://wlcentral.org/node/2029Jul 16 14:50
DrPizza@_@Jul 16 14:50
DrPizzaOK, read it on Ars Technica.Jul 16 14:50
DrPizzaSame article.Jul 16 14:50
GoForbes28uh huhJul 16 14:51
schestowitzGoogle is a company that has services around which it sells spaceJul 16 14:51
schestowitzThat's nothing newJul 16 14:51
schestowitzAnd I have plugins to remove those spacesJul 16 14:51
DrPizzaPlus is a defensive move against Facebook.Jul 16 14:51
schestowitzrightJul 16 14:51
DrPizzaDesigned to protect Google's ad power.Jul 16 14:51
GoForbes28Microsoft is a dying company that sue since it can't sell.  This is also not newJul 16 14:51
DrPizzalol "dying company"Jul 16 14:51
schestowitzdon't tell DrPizzaJul 16 14:51
schestowitzHe loves MicrosoftJul 16 14:52
DrPizzalolJul 16 14:52
DrPizzaI don't love any company.Jul 16 14:52
schestowitzIt's like telling the pope is that Catholicism is dyingJul 16 14:52
GoForbes28Sorry, this isn't 1991 anymore, people aren't flocking to Windows 3.1 and Microsoft OfficeJul 16 14:52
DrPizzaNo, theyre flocking to Windows 7 and Office 2010Jul 16 14:52
schestowitzit loses market shareJul 16 14:52
schestowitznew figures do confirm thisJul 16 14:53
schestowitzsteady decline for WindowsJul 16 14:53
DrPizzaand Exchange and SQL Server and XboxJul 16 14:53
schestowitzand Android possibly grows even fasterJul 16 14:53
schestowitzxbox is a money sinkJul 16 14:53
DrPizzaNopeJul 16 14:53
schestowitzMicrosoft lost billions in this areaJul 16 14:53
DrPizzaNot any moreJul 16 14:53
DrPizzaNot for a few years nowJul 16 14:53
schestowitzAnd it got rid of Bach and EllardJul 16 14:53
schestowitzAllardJul 16 14:53
DrPizzaXbox is now profitableJul 16 14:53
GoForbes28Keep drinking the kool-aidJul 16 14:53
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schestowitzAfter losjng billionsJul 16 14:54
schestowitzbrbJul 16 14:54
DrPizzasunk costs.Jul 16 14:54
DrPizzaalready paid forJul 16 14:54
DrPizzairrelevant to future considerationsJul 16 14:54
DrPizzaanywayJul 16 14:54
DrPizzalunch itmeJul 16 14:54
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_Goblinhello mate.... just arrived in sunderlandJul 16 14:56
schestowitzhi, netbook?Jul 16 14:58
schestowitz:-)Jul 16 14:58
schestowitzit's probabyl rainy there todayJul 16 14:59
schestowitzit is here... heavytooJul 16 14:59
schestowitzFinding time for the Internet can be hard sometimes. The importantJul 16 15:02
schestowitzthing is that all the news gets stored somewhere for later interpretation.Jul 16 15:02
schestowitzI still need to catch up with some old news when I'm done with Linux newsJul 16 15:02
schestowitzLots of Android stuff recentlyJul 16 15:02
schestowitzSo it has become a new target for attacjsJul 16 15:02
_Goblinyes im on the netbook and yes it rained all the way upJul 16 15:02
schestowitzthe "malware" smears in COLAJul 16 15:02
_Goblini took the a1....260miles ....4hoursJul 16 15:02
schestowitzIt's like they hired some agents to flood the NG with itJul 16 15:02
_Goblinbut then they defeat their own argument.....Jul 16 15:03
_GoblinWindows is insecure because its sooooo popularJul 16 15:03
_Goblinergo then.....Jul 16 15:03
_GoblinAndroids won that battle....so many people are using itJul 16 15:03
_Goblinif malware is such a big deal with Android, why have they suffered years and years with Windows.Jul 16 15:04
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/koolhead17/statuses/92215220189138944Jul 16 15:05
TechrightsBot-tr@koolhead17: @schestowitz Fuck in name of there polio eradication program bill& milinda gates foundation is  doing nothing more than clinical testing.Jul 16 15:05
schestowitzWell, it's headed by a former bully from a pharma giant (who came under investigation for threatening researchers)Jul 16 15:06
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/78911728Jul 16 15:06
TechrightsBot-tr@G. Forbes (goforbes28)'s status on Saturday, 16-Jul-11 13:20:42 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz What, no XFCE? ;)Jul 16 15:06
schestowitz_Goblin: heh. No...Jul 16 15:06
schestowitz_Goblin: malware is not a virus, eitherJul 16 15:07
_Goblinits amazing the power of linux.....Jul 16 15:07
schestowitzThe problem is people installing stuff that does what it's supposed to do, which is malicious (mal)Jul 16 15:07
_Goblinnetbook running off linuxJul 16 15:07
_Goblinwifi hotspot set up on an android phoneJul 16 15:07
schestowitzBallmer ru\nnign FROM LinuxJul 16 15:08
_GoblinIm fully net present with all my bits and pieces away from homeJul 16 15:08
schestowitzwifi hotspots sometimes run LinuxJul 16 15:08
_Goblinup and running in about 5 minsJul 16 15:08
schestowitz5 minutes? Too long! :-)Jul 16 15:08
schestowitzMake coffee faster next timeJul 16 15:08
_Goblinthis connection with my netbook tethered to my android is very quick tooJul 16 15:08
schestowitzwhy not wp7? :-)Jul 16 15:09
schestowitz!google wp7 2010 no tetheringJul 16 15:09
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Windows Phone 7 Doesn't Support Tethering | http://mashable.com/2010/09/25/windows-phone-7-tethering/Jul 16 15:09
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Microsoft: Windows Phone 7 actually doesn't support tethering ... | http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/24/microsoft-windows-phone-7-actually-doesnt-support-tethering/Jul 16 15:09
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Windows Phone 7 No Tethering ಠ_ಠ « Spanning Solutions – IT ... | http://spanningsolutions.com/2010/09/28/windows-phone-7-no-tethering-%25E0%25B2%25A0_%25E0%25B2%25A0/Jul 16 15:09
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - So Now Windows Phone 7 Doesn't Support Tethering At All? | http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2010/09/24/so-now-windows-phone-7-doesnt-support-tethering-at-all/Jul 16 15:09
schestowitzಠ_ಠJul 16 15:09
schestowitzPoor man's androidJul 16 15:09
_Goblinthe only thing i have issue with away from home is skype....i think thats a service provider issueJul 16 15:09
_GoblinWP7? Id rather use MikeOS, Id be more productiveJul 16 15:10
schestowitzlolJul 16 15:10
schestowitzsafer tooJul 16 15:10
schestowitzwhat editions of mikeos are there?Jul 16 15:10
schestowitzohJul 16 15:10
schestowitzcan it copy and paste?Jul 16 15:10
schestowitz!google wp7 2010 no copy and pasteJul 16 15:10
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Windows Phone 7: no copy and paste until 2011 - Microsoft | http://thenextweb.com/microsoft/2010/11/05/windows-phone-7-no-copy-and-paste-until-2011/Jul 16 15:10
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - No copy-paste for Windows Phone 7 Series | http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2010/03/16/no-copy-paste-for-windows-phone-7-series/Jul 16 15:10
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - FOUL!!! No Copy and Paste in WP7 (Wait…Maybe) | http://mobilitydigest.com/foul-no-copy-and-paste-in-wp7/Jul 16 15:10
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Windows Phone 7 developer announcement hints at copy and paste | http://www.intomobile.com/2010/09/22/windows-phone-7-developer-copy-and-paste/Jul 16 15:10
schestowitz!google wp7 2010 IMAP bugJul 16 15:11
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Yahoo Fires Back: Windows Phone 7 Data Bug is From "Non-Standard ... | http://forums.thoughtsmedia.com/f397/yahoo-fires-back-windows-phone-7-data-bug-non-standard-imap-implementation-103270.htmlJul 16 15:11
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Bugs! Frustrating Bugs! WP7 | http://www.peterskitchen.net/%3Fp%3D4561Jul 16 15:11
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Yahoo! email bug affects iPhone as well, not just Windows Phone 7 | http://www.bgr.com/2011/02/03/yahoo-email-bug-affects-iphone-as-well-not-just-windows-phone-7/Jul 16 15:11
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Yahoo! email bug affects iPhone as well, not just Windows Phone 7 ... | http://www.techinnovatorsja.com/wordpress/%3Fp%3D3903Jul 16 15:11
schestowitzIt's all very advanced stuffJul 16 15:11
schestowitzIMAPJul 16 15:11
schestowitzState of the art 'tech'Jul 16 15:11
schestowitzanyway, let's post some advocacy in COLAJul 16 15:12
schestowitzNot give the trolls room for breatheJul 16 15:13
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schestowitzI think COLA has been better recentlyJul 16 15:13
schestowitzHi, SnitJul 16 15:13
schestowitzHow are you?Jul 16 15:13
SnitHelloJul 16 15:13
SnitPretty goodJul 16 15:13
schestowitzgood, good..Jul 16 15:13
schestowitz_Goblin is here tooJul 16 15:13
SnitJust figured I would stop by here.  Need to run in a bitJul 16 15:13
schestowitzBut he's up in Sunderland at the momentJul 16 15:13
schestowitzusing his iPad :-)Jul 16 15:13
*schestowitz jokesJul 16 15:13
SnitHey, when can we get together to pick a date for you to "grill" me.  :)Jul 16 15:14
schestowitzbrbJul 16 15:14
schestowitzgrill?Jul 16 15:14
schestowitzI was thinking of something more amicableJul 16 15:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Woman Gropes TSA Agent's Breast at Security Checkpoint http://ping.fm/1SJVGJul 16 15:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] If I had to put a bet on it, I'd say Facebook will probably always have more silent users than Google+. But I suspe... http://b1t.it/rAhJul 16 15:14
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Snit"The choice is yours, if you want to decline, I can be creative why its only me giving him the grilling!"Jul 16 15:14
schestowitzactually, we were having a discussion about Appole vs Android an hour afoJul 16 15:14
schestowitz*goJul 16 15:14
schestowitzThe show doesn't grillJul 16 15:15
schestowitzIt's not Jerry SpringerJul 16 15:15
SnitJust having fun based on your comments...Jul 16 15:15
schestowitzIt's a family-friendly  pro-FOSS discussionJul 16 15:15
SnitOops... need to run, but I will likely come back here later today.Jul 16 15:15
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SnitI was quoting from http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/irc-log-social-10072011.htmlJul 16 15:16
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*schestowitz back to having debate about http://twitter.com/koolhead17/statuses/92170480848617472Jul 16 15:16
TechrightsBot-trNot a tweet?Jul 16 15:16
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/koolhead17/statuses/92170480848617472Jul 16 15:16
TechrightsBot-tr@koolhead17: @schestowitz Do you know what Bill & Milinda foundation doing in India on name of healthcare in name of there NGO!! http://t.co/W7iTFHVJul 16 15:16
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SnitOk, gotta runJul 16 15:16
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schestowitz_Goblin: I've lost you there...Jul 16 15:22
schestowitzDon't know what you mean. Anyway, it'll be amusing if he's on the showJul 16 15:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Unified Messaging Menu / MeMenu Lands In Oneiric, New Power Indicator Available http://ur1.ca/4pqed !UbuntuJul 16 15:22
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schestowitzJust that.... what would there be to talk about?Jul 16 15:22
schestowitzHe'll just yell "Stampede" or somethingJul 16 15:22
schestowitzAnd mention iThingsJul 16 15:23
schestowitzbrbJul 16 15:23
schestowitzthe short story is, Gates invests (for profit) in big phrama, which needs clinical trials on poor people who would not sueJul 16 15:31
schestowitzby spending a million dollars per day buying the press and making fairy tales, Gates able to recruit poor populations for trialJul 16 15:32
schestowitztrials evenJul 16 15:33
cubezzzI don't think anyone would run MikeOS as their main OSJul 16 15:38
cubezzzit's mainly for assembly programmersJul 16 15:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dyfet/@dyfet] Friendika, because friends do not let friends be spied upon http://ur1.ca/4pevk http://ur1.ca/4pqgvJul 16 15:39
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cubezzzafter Linux and BSD I thought that Haiku was the next most feature complete FOSS OSJul 16 15:39
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cubezzzToshiba shipped thougsands of computers with BeOS and Windows but their was no dual boot menuJul 16 15:45
cubezzzon the other hand, some models of Toshiba work well with HaikuJul 16 15:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I must find out if there's away of setting the default opening size of a !Gnome terminal?Jul 16 15:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I'd really prefer the !Gnome terminal to open to 132x43, especically when I'm using !identicurseJul 16 15:54
schestowitzcubezzz: i'd have thought  you installed mikeos by now :-)Jul 16 15:57
schestowitzby have all the classic osesJul 16 15:57
cubezzzI tried itJul 16 15:58
cubezzzthere was some problems with the video Jul 16 15:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Enterprise has grown on me, never thought I'd say that. Maybe it's being able to watch back-to-back eps, without #StarTrek hypeJul 16 15:59
cubezzzor maybe that was Menuet, hmmmJul 16 16:00
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cubezzz16-bit real mode... so... all the probs of msdosJul 16 16:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Thanks for help and feedback to @eightyeight @whirli & @expatpaul :)Jul 16 16:06
schestowitz_Goblin: the trolls have a toilet fetishJul 16 16:06
schestowitzsomething with the "bowl"Jul 16 16:06
schestowitzThey're full of **Jul 16 16:06
schestowitzand it sure seems like the trolls still listen to the show and attribute network issues to Linux, not ISPs (just filtered to see all your posts to COLA)Jul 16 16:09
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GoForbes28who's snit?Jul 16 16:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] Taking a break from the internet .... at least until 0300hrs GMT. Then I shall be back with a vengeance! #ISP issues :'(Jul 16 16:12
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schestowitzGoForbes28: thanks for the wiki maintenanceJul 16 16:16
schestowitzWe deterred them, I think (the wiki spammers)Jul 16 16:16
schestowitzsnit is a Mac troll who trolls a Linux newsgroupJul 16 16:16
schestowitzBut i isually don't confront trolls, I just ignore them, which saves timeJul 16 16:17
schestowitzFiltering them saves space, tooJul 16 16:17
cubezzzsounds like a waste of timeJul 16 16:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @lovenemesis: RT @henger !Android developers, please follow these steps to make your apps accessible for the blind http://ur1.ca/4pq2fJul 16 16:17
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cubezzzfor SnitJul 16 16:17
cubezzzThe only way you can be sure about operating systems is to try all of themJul 16 16:18
cubezzzand I bet very few people have actually done thatJul 16 16:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RD @eebrah @lovenemesis @henger #Android developers, please follow these steps to make your apps accessible for the blind ..Jul 16 16:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RD .. http://ur1.ca/4pq2fJul 16 16:21
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schestowitzcubezzz: rightJul 16 16:24
schestowitzsame as religionsJul 16 16:24
schestowitzPeople just defend what they try first, it's zealotryJul 16 16:24
cubezzzwell a lot of the Mac crowd were upper middle class or even richJul 16 16:24
schestowitzanyway, not sure what the entrtainment value of people confronting one another over OSes really isJul 16 16:24
cubezzzthere's some elitism thereJul 16 16:25
cubezzzentertainment value is dubious :)Jul 16 16:25
schestowitzThere are more interesting debates to haveJul 16 16:25
schestowitzframewars do get attentionJul 16 16:25
schestowitzBut they leave the sides looking abrasive and angry.. both sidesJul 16 16:26
eebrahcubezzz: best way to sell anything is to make it exclusive, even when it reallyisn'tJul 16 16:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] !Fedora #FAmSCo meeting minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2011-07-16/fedora-meeting.2011-07-16-14.16.htmlJul 16 16:26
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cubezzzchecking my notes... MenuetOS didn't run 100% for meJul 16 16:26
cubezzz video problems with that oneJul 16 16:27
cubezzzBSD-like license for MikeOSJul 16 16:27
cubezzzI guess MikeOS deserves a 2nd lookJul 16 16:27
cubezzzwell the ideal computer is still elusiveJul 16 16:29
cubezzzall the computers I see in the stores are far far from the idealJul 16 16:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @snowness: When people tell me I'm funny, most of the time they mean funny strange, but I still think it's a compliment.Jul 16 16:31
cubezzztrouble is, when one is studying a lot of different OSes you need a lot of different machinesJul 16 16:31
cubezzzcertainly the number of OS/hardware combinations is enormousJul 16 16:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] How the leaker was leaked: @ggreenwald writes on #manning and how his identity was revealed. http://ur1.ca/4pqzz #wikileaksJul 16 16:37
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cubezzzschestowitz, first exposure to a particular OS is very influentialJul 16 16:39
cubezzzexcept in my case I went through a hugely transitional phaseJul 16 16:40
cubezzz8 bit to 16 bit to 32 bit Jul 16 16:40
cubezzzso I never became entrenched in Microsoft products, or windowsJul 16 16:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @cer: check out @pla1@identi.ca 's dent image creator: http:// dentimage.com /notice#.png (squished together)Jul 16 16:41
cubezzze.g. the 80's was pretty much windows freeJul 16 16:41
cubezzzthere was 1.0 and 2.0 but no one was using themJul 16 16:41
cubezzzit was an era of brand systems, each brand had it's own OS Jul 16 16:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @x11r5 Damn dog almost attacked my kids! Fucker is lucky my .40 is locked up! "Shanaynay, where's my candy critters ? :DJul 16 16:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Good morning !Identiverse <whew... just made it at the tail end of the local time convention>Jul 16 16:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @x11r5 Damn dog almost attacked my kids! Fucker is lucky my .40 is locked up! "Shanaynay, where's my candy critters ? :DJul 16 16:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Working on netbook, seems that the increasingly flaky behaviour of my desktop machine is a sign a motherboard transplant is necessary *sigh*Jul 16 16:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] RT @eebrah RD: @lovenemesis: RT @henger !Android developers, please follow these steps to make your apps accessible for the blind http:/ ...Jul 16 16:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Note: when your "new Improved version" requires maintenance of the old version under the name "classic," clearly the new is not improvedJul 16 16:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laforge/@laforge] Using http://smatch.sourceforge.net/ on #osmocom projects like #openbsc today. Finds an interesting number of bugs!Jul 16 16:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @laurelrusswurm: Working on netbook ... *sigh* -- Considered using netbook as temporary CPU? connecting Display and USB mouse+KB?Jul 16 17:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sagarun/@sagarun] Attended voldemort's funeral.Jul 16 17:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk a trademark is a means of tagging your work, claiming your logo, a way to verify (as Twitter would have it) or attribute (as !CC does)Jul 16 17:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Murdoch thinks his "news" outlets are a "positive force for society? Holy fuck, has he seen #FoxNews? http://is.gd/HD3Wsb it's a spite ragJul 16 17:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk The idea of trademark is not the same as !copyright because Trademark exists to attest to the truth of who made it, fights counterfeitJul 16 17:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] test2Jul 16 17:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk I don't know enough about trademak law to comment, the idea of it seems reasonable in respect of fraud preventionJul 16 17:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] show your support for #Murdoch & his crimes by continuing your #BSkyB subscription #NI #NOTWJul 16 17:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk A logo s/b the trademark ... Is #TM law is screwy? Corporations should not be able to assume ownership of words of language #theftJul 16 17:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] suspicious lack of comments http://is.gd/Weun9D #SkyNews wouldn't censoring them by any chance? No, they're a #Murdoch outlet, they'd neverJul 16 17:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk A logo is like a signature; the point of it is to tell the end user whose work they are gettingJul 16 17:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk of course in my opinion ... that's all I have.Jul 16 17:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk The bits I've heard about #TM law make me think it is as screwy or perhaps even screwier than !copyright, but underlying idea is validJul 16 17:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @eebrah It's not a bad little netbook but i don't want it to have to drive my desktop machine... the processor wouldn't be up to itJul 16 17:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @eebrah (graphics & hopefully video, tons of home movies to edit tho need 2 learn nix sw...& I even want to play with Blender down the line)Jul 16 17:29
SnitWhat do you use on Linux to edit home movies?Jul 16 17:29
SnitI do a lot of screencasting (not quite the same) and have never found anything that really works well.Jul 16 17:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk For instance: anyone can call their product "fair trade" but I am more inclined to buy fair trade products bearing the transfair logoJul 16 17:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] neither do most Canadians, @vandenJul 16 17:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] seriously, most Canadians don't know or care, Fox News or not (that's why that's what we will get) @vandenJul 16 17:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Canadians here are not representative of the population at large, even Canadians on Twitter and Facebook aren't @vanden ... not yetJul 16 17:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Gov't's intention to import GMO foods causing much controversy !KenyaJul 16 17:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] also wordpress.org currently is the leader in self hosting blog software (by no means perfect, just best at the moment) @vandenJul 16 17:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] RT @jargon interesting how people complain about my complaining & are rarely capable of refuting any of my points,then settle for labell ...Jul 16 17:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Bachmann #Murdock and #Koch separated at birth? http://ur1.ca/4prmt #globalwarmingJul 16 17:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Tell Pres. @BarackObama: Don't cave. Protect #SocialSecurity, #Medicare and #Medicaid. #p2 http://bit.ly/oFTRUGJul 16 17:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] I own the windows in my house @sandersch / cc @TekkJul 16 17:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Cool post by my brother @larryrusswurm "Repercussions to Corporate Personhood" http://ur1.ca/4prnp #Aliens /cc @crosbieJul 16 17:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Canadian ISP Shaw tries to cover up that their movie service doesn't count towards bandwidth cap, but Netflix does http://ur1.ca/4pro1Jul 16 17:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Links 16/7/2011: PCLinuxOS Reviews, Kororaa 15 Coming http://ur1.ca/4prqg #techrightsJul 16 17:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @th3k4ty: my timeline looks so empty... ah, @fabsh is gone to g+ ;) identi.ca can shut some servers down without him... ;)Jul 16 17:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] cool, i've never heard of that ... i said "currently" b/c wp software can be very dictatorial @wwwwolfJul 16 18:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @fabsh: ♺ @th3k4ty: my timeline looks so empty... ah, @fabsh is gone to g+ ;) identi.ca can shut some servers down without him... ;)Jul 16 18:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @nj3ma: @jargon Guessing this current debacle prompted by raising concerns over g-. Google has many loud apologists in FLOSS. +1Jul 16 18:04
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GoForbes28is phoronix fairly trustworthy?Jul 16 18:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] ♺ @nj3ma: @jargon Bottom line is: People will always be unhappy when you're saying what they don't like,resort to name calling.Don't mind emJul 16 18:06
SnitI do not mind differing opinions, but the useless name calling and accusations in online debates are just absurd.Jul 16 18:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] !Kenyan legislator claims on camera that GMO foods cause cancer, sterility.Jul 16 18:07
SnitI would not go that far, but I also do not trust them.Jul 16 18:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] RT @laurelrusswurm Cool post by my brother @larryrusswurm "Repercussions to Corporate Personhood" http://ur1.ca/4prnp #Aliens /cc @crosbieJul 16 18:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] RT @laurelrusswurm I own the windows in my house @sandersch / cc @TekkJul 16 18:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] !Kenya has a full fledged gov't agency to deal with GMOs and such,the National Biosafety Authority.Jul 16 18:12
GoForbes28ok, assuming that was a different conversationJul 16 18:13
GoForbes28is phoronix fairly trustworthy?Jul 16 18:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @expatpaul ♺ @rpcutts: A room without books is like a body without a soul.Jul 16 18:21
schestowitzGoForbes28: it isJul 16 18:23
schestowitzits editors and I were in good terms since our early days bloggingJul 16 18:23
schestowitzand I read phoronix with great degree of trustJul 16 18:23
schestowitzwhy, did it say something inflammatory?Jul 16 18:23
schestowitzSome people try to pile dirt on it, usually minor thingsJul 16 18:24
schestowitz!google phoronix sexismJul 16 18:24
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schestowitzhe basically said something like, "make the wife happy"Jul 16 18:24
schestowitzAssuming malesJul 16 18:24
schestowitzThe militant feminists saw that as over the lineJul 16 18:24
schestowitzother feminists were like, "c'mon, it's no big deal"Jul 16 18:25
GoForbes28nah, I saw some tests where Windows 7 and Ubuntu were neck to neck, that's allJul 16 18:26
GoForbes28I was skepticalJul 16 18:28
schestowitzDepends on theb hardwareJul 16 18:28
schestowitzThose tests can be biasedJul 16 18:29
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schestowitzLike most I see in research and sometimes peer-reviewJul 16 18:29
schestowitzIf you choose high-level hardware, Vista 7 might do OKJul 16 18:29
schestowitzBut go down to 512 MB of RAMJul 16 18:29
schestowitzAnd also choose particular drivers and see Linux winning Jul 16 18:29
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schestowitzSo you can choose the specs based on the strengths and weaknesses of the surveyed itemsJul 16 18:30
schestowitzHi, sebsebsebJul 16 18:30
schestowitzThe trick is, can you spot this and raise this as a caveatJul 16 18:30
sebsebsebschestowitz: Just seen your dent about IBM donating Symphony to Apache, well that should be good I guess.Jul 16 18:30
schestowitzOne paper I review right now comes from TexasJul 16 18:30
schestowitzAnd they use their own DBJul 16 18:30
schestowitzAnd they therefor compare mostly to results from TexasJul 16 18:30
schestowitzAnd it looks like good performance cause it's pre-processed and is inclusive to Texas, not the rest of the worldJul 16 18:31
schestowitzAnd in my report I'll need to raise this as a problem. They need to benchmark on more widely used DBsJul 16 18:31
sebsebsebHmm I didn't know that could have ö in a domain name untill just now: http://john.skjönsberg.se/?p=145Jul 16 18:33
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GoForbes28thanks for the explanation :)Jul 16 18:34
GoForbes28sebsebseb: Does *donating* mean the actual source code?Jul 16 18:35
sebsebsebGoForbes28: yep seems soJul 16 18:36
sebsebsebor bits of stuffJul 16 18:36
sebsebseband then getting it into Open Office itselfJul 16 18:36
sebsebsebor somethingJul 16 18:36
sebsebsebGoForbes28: This: http://identi.ca/conversation/76258289#notice-78810634Jul 16 18:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Randal: Harmony 1.0 reflections http://lwn.net/Articles/451876/rssJul 16 18:57
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koolhead17schestowitz am very frustrated :(Jul 16 19:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @mlinksva Effect of noticing several all-Flash sites last few days: !enraged at anyone who uses #Flash, irrationally so. Egregiously ...Jul 16 19:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] I understand how that goes, @neptune78, but I'm a little sad because layout was part of the art of publishing (presentation of the words)Jul 16 19:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @atwaternc Atwater Village NC Atwater Village Neighborhood Daily is out! http://paper.li/atwaterncJul 16 19:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Here's me getting sucked intio the Internet... gotta get stuff done D: / cc @victriviaqueen (soooo easy)Jul 16 19:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] take care and rest @dtapscott (the Internet will still be here when you're better :)Jul 16 19:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] >> logging off to work on eBook stuphJul 16 19:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @nj3ma: !Kenya has a full fledged gov't agency to deal with GMOs and such,the National Biosafety Authority.Jul 16 19:24
schestowitz"florian.mueller@live.com "Jul 16 19:42
schestowitzHeheJul 16 19:42
schestowitzHe uses a Microsoft addressJul 16 19:42
schestowitzkoolhead17: what about?Jul 16 19:42
schestowitz"Jul 16 19:44
schestowitzFounderJul 16 19:44
schestowitzFOSS Patents (blog)Jul 16 19:44
schestowitzComputer Software industryJul 16 19:44
schestowitzApril 2010 – Present (1 year 4 months)Jul 16 19:44
schestowitzRecommend Florian’s work at FOSS Patents (blog) Jul 16 19:44
schestowitz"Jul 16 19:44
schestowitzThat's his "job"?Jul 16 19:44
koolhead17schestowitz the clinical practise Jul 16 19:44
GoForbes28wow, just read the latest Vista 8 newsJul 16 19:46
GoForbes28I'm half-expecting something about unicornsJul 16 19:47
GoForbes28The vapour has never been so strongJul 16 19:47
GoForbes28http://www.askvg.com/windows-8-what-we-know-and-what-we-need-to-know/Jul 16 19:48
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GoForbes28Behold the latest form of kool-aidJul 16 19:48
GoForbes28my favourite: "4. Microsoft has added "Up" button in Windows 8 Explorer after receiving lots of complaints from Windows Vista and 7 users:"Jul 16 19:52
GoForbes28OMGZZ!!!111Jul 16 19:52
GoForbes28Holy crap, it took only, uh, 3-4 years to implement this advanced feature.  I mean, it's not like any GNU+Linux distro would have implemented this in, say, 1 month?  Tops?Jul 16 19:53
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/koolhead17/status/92292184283422720?iid=am-156194753213108391463956525&nid=4&uid=26603208Jul 16 19:55
TechrightsBot-tr@koolhead17: @schestowitz he does not even recruit, the poors even unaware of the fact that clinical trial has been done on them http://t.co/VEPizywJul 16 19:55
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schestowitzThat's the brilliance of GAtesJul 16 19:55
schestowitzFrom monopoly abuse to experimenting on people for profitJul 16 19:55
schestowitzThey love people in Africa and IndiaJul 16 19:55
schestowitzIn India some girls were killedJul 16 19:55
koolhead17espacially IndiaJul 16 19:55
schestowitzAnd Gates Foundation then ran awayJul 16 19:56
schestowitzSee TachiJul 16 19:56
koolhead177 girlsJul 16 19:56
schestowitzHe runs their 'heal;th' thingJul 16 19:56
koolhead17they said gals died of suicideJul 16 19:56
schestowitzHe came from GSKJul 16 19:56
koolhead17and allJul 16 19:56
schestowitzAnd Gates invests in those companiesJul 16 19:56
schestowitzSelling theitr patentsJul 16 19:56
schestowitzAnd lobbying politicians to give my tax money to these experimentsJul 16 19:56
GoForbes28schestowitz: some more hype  for ya http://www.msfn.org/_/windows/400-million-windows-7-licenses-sold-says-microsoft-r8805Jul 16 19:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 400 million Windows 7 licenses sold, says Microsoft .::. Size~: 41.5 KBJul 16 19:56
schestowitzWhile making himself look like a generous heroJul 16 19:56
schestowitzand making money from itJul 16 19:56
schestowitzkoolhead17: in Aftica it's worseJul 16 19:57
schestowitzThe experiment with seeds thereJul 16 19:57
schestowitzIt's known that these producs increase chanves of cancerJul 16 19:57
schestowitzAnd now he tried to help Monsanto enter IndiaJul 16 19:57
koolhead17my govenment is responsible 4 all thisJul 16 19:58
schestowitzShiva won't let him, she's suing with the governmentJul 16 19:58
schestowitzBut he and his PR budgets (buying and bribing journalists) will run her over like an antJul 16 19:58
koolhead17schestowitz i need documents and related stuff 4 sameJul 16 19:58
koolhead17i can give it to some media agency hereJul 16 19:58
koolhead17who is shiva'Jul 16 19:58
schestowitzGoForbes28: I sold 400m licences to touch meJul 16 19:58
schestowitzMicrosoft fkaes #sJul 16 19:59
schestowitzThese are not usersJul 16 19:59
schestowitzIt's just some keys it "issues"Jul 16 19:59
GoForbes28schestowitz: lolJul 16 19:59
GoForbes28that sounded a little weird there roy :PJul 16 19:59
schestowitz!google monsanto shivaJul 16 19:59
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Patents by Monsanto‏ - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DAh-ZeN_ghroJul 16 19:59
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - YouTube - Vandana Shiva on GM Food & Monsanto (in English) | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DOju86YIOOLIJul 16 19:59
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Vandana Shiva Takes Fight Against Monsanto to Hong Kong | http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/1214-05.htmJul 16 19:59
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schestowitzshe did her phd in Canada IIRCJul 16 19:59
schestowitzShe's a superwomanJul 16 19:59
GoForbes28niceJul 16 20:00
schestowitzyou ned to vcontact herJul 16 20:00
koolhead17schestowitz coolJul 16 20:00
schestowitzAnd to pressure/expose the politicians who sell Indian famer to MonsantoJul 16 20:00
GoForbes28schestowitz: Well the numbers sound ludicrous even without taking into account all the overwhelming counter-evidenceJul 16 20:00
schestowitzThey need to protest against the rich crooks (not uncles) from "American", not commit suicide due to debt to MonsantoJul 16 20:00
GoForbes28schestowitz: You as in me?Jul 16 20:00
schestowitz /famer/framersJul 16 20:01
schestowitz*farmers too :-)Jul 16 20:01
schestowitzGoForbes28: I am not followingJul 16 20:01
schestowitzI just made a joke thereJul 16 20:02
schestowitzMicrosoft allows people to 'access' its "IP"Jul 16 20:02
GoForbes28"you ned to vcontact her"Jul 16 20:02
schestowitzno, koolhead17Jul 16 20:02
GoForbes28I know it was a joke :)Jul 16 20:02
schestowitzIndian govt. is too suspicious of usJul 16 20:02
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schestowitzAnd rightly soJul 16 20:02
schestowitzSo we need to explain to eebrah and koolhead17 for example how the West is *** them ***Jul 16 20:02
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GoForbes28woah, Indian govt. is suspicious of Techrights?Jul 16 20:02
*eebrah_ is now known as eebrahJul 16 20:02
schestowitzno, it won't listen to foreigners unless they offer a bribeJul 16 20:03
schestowitzthey only listen to people who throw bribes, like GatesJul 16 20:03
schestowitz$340 million spent on just PR per yearJul 16 20:03
schestowitzAnd he tries to drag politicians with PR at his expenseJul 16 20:03
schestowitzLike the ClintonsJul 16 20:04
schestowitzso they're like schools girls around this convicted monopolistJul 16 20:04
koolhead17schestowitz well yes indian politicans are morons and they do needful in cheap omoneyJul 16 20:04
koolhead17:PJul 16 20:04
schestowitzAnyway, I haven\'t tracked GAtes ina  wholeJul 16 20:04
schestowitzFrankly, it became a bit repetitiveJul 16 20:05
schestowitzSo if I never quite get back to it, that will be OKJul 16 20:05
schestowitzhe's only in his 50sJul 16 20:05
schestowitzSo he has many years left to cause suferingJul 16 20:05
koolhead17can we do anything to stop tihis :(Jul 16 20:05
schestowitzsufferingJul 16 20:05
schestowitzBTW, turns out the Microsoft Florian ism 41Jul 16 20:06
schestowitzI wasn't sure he was over 40, I'm still in my 20sJul 16 20:06
schestowitzSo lobbyists like him I have a lot of time left to expose, over timeJul 16 20:06
schestowitzkoolhead17: you can he;p expand knowledgebasesJul 16 20:06
schestowitzTo counter the Bill-paid pressJul 16 20:07
schestowitzHe bought many of our big publications tooJul 16 20:07
koolhead17tell me how O masterJul 16 20:07
schestowitzPaid $30 million to the BBC recentlyJul 16 20:07
schestowitzAnd also The Guarsian and others..Jul 16 20:07
schestowitzSo much for 'guardian'Jul 16 20:07
schestowitz[while the price is right]Jul 16 20:07
schestowitzkoolhead17: did you see http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Gates_Foundation_CritiqueJul 16 20:08
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schestowitzWe need help with those pagesJul 16 20:08
koolhead17kJul 16 20:08
schestowitzI have one person who offered to helpJul 16 20:09
schestowitzI sent him some materialJul 16 20:09
schestowitzBut he has not had much time to sort it out yetJul 16 20:09
schestowitzyou can help in many waysJul 16 20:09
schestowitze.g.Jul 16 20:09
schestowitzeducating your neighboursJul 16 20:09
schestowitzWell, I guess I sent you some links abouy Gates in IndiaJul 16 20:09
schestowitzNot so much of a summaryJul 16 20:09
schestowitzBut reference to news at the timeJul 16 20:10
schestowitzTechrights caused some protests in IndiaJul 16 20:10
schestowitzhttps://hackbloc.org/node/1872Jul 16 20:10
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schestowitzhttp://yro.slashdot.org/story/08/11/17/0120203/Boycott-Novell-Protesters-Manhandled-In-IndiaJul 16 20:10
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schestowitzThere was some in colleges tooJul 16 20:11
schestowitzholding up posters I madeJul 16 20:11
schestowitzAnd they got press attentionJul 16 20:11
schestowitzSo it's effectiveJul 16 20:11
koolhead17kJul 16 20:11
schestowitzNovell and Microsoft had a PR gaffe thereJul 16 20:11
schestowitzNovell is dead nowJul 16 20:11
koolhead17i have worked with media for 3 yrsJul 16 20:11
koolhead17hmmJul 16 20:11
schestowitzIf you know people with access ti authorship positions, prod them to publish an explanation of how Gates profits from IndiaJul 16 20:12
schestowitzI can help you with pointers, I have studied that for yearsJul 16 20:12
koolhead17yes sureJul 16 20:12
schestowitzAnd you should contact Vandana ShivaJul 16 20:13
schestowitzShe has a Web siteJul 16 20:13
schestowitzseveral evenJul 16 20:13
schestowitzBut she never mentioned GatesJul 16 20:13
koolhead17kJul 16 20:13
koolhead17kJul 16 20:13
schestowitzJust those in the shadowsJul 16 20:13
schestowitzthe companies, not the lobbyistsJul 16 20:13
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2009/11/09/nasscom-shills-vista-7/Jul 16 20:14
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schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2009/07/24/nasscom-and-microsoft/Jul 16 20:15
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_Goblinschestowitz, this will make you laugh.....silly threat time from the Microsoft Advocates in COLA...... Apparently MS lawyers are going to start sniffing around us.....great stuff....Jul 16 20:15
schestowitzI am trying to find the photo of Bill at NASSCOMJul 16 20:15
schestowitz_Goblin: heheJul 16 20:15
schestowitzMaybe Microsoft needs legal advice ;-)Jul 16 20:15
_Goblincould you imagine the PR nightmare for them if they took me to court......Jul 16 20:15
_Goblin(obviously dont disclose what I do)Jul 16 20:16
schestowitzNaaa... they can'tJul 16 20:16
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schestowitzMaybe the trolls pulled this intimidation tactic againJul 16 20:16
_GoblinI would represent myself quite happilyJul 16 20:16
_GoblinI would love them too.Jul 16 20:16
schestowitzJudge GoblinJul 16 20:16
schestowitzYoru HonourJul 16 20:16
_GoblinlolJul 16 20:16
_Goblinif only...Jul 16 20:16
schestowitzkoolhead17: read http://techrights.org/2009/01/15/ms-edgi-in-india-vs-staroffice-linux/ when you have timeJul 16 20:17
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_Goblinnow that would be a scoop for a tabloidJul 16 20:17
schestowitzGAtes used his 'charity' to attacj Linux a lotJul 16 20:17
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2009/05/26/malaria-to-attack-gnu-linux-spain/Jul 16 20:17
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_GoblinGates - "the richest man with the cheapest haircut"Jul 16 20:17
schestowitzhe looks like he has a wig sometimesJul 16 20:18
schestowitzI could provide examples, but I can't be rasedJul 16 20:18
schestowitz*arsedJul 16 20:18
schestowitzHis dead is a shinyheadJul 16 20:18
koolhead17:PJul 16 20:18
schestowitz*dadJul 16 20:19
_Goblinmaybe thats why the MS advocates try to say im bald......sort of jealousy for their bossJul 16 20:19
schestowitzbothJul 16 20:19
schestowitzmaybeJul 16 20:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Since I joined Google+, I am not so active on identica. I know, I know... shame on me. :(Jul 16 20:19
schestowitzhmm..Jul 16 20:19
schestowitztoros..Jul 16 20:19
schestowitzGoogle+ and Facebook building walled gardensJul 16 20:19
schestowitzI don't like thatJul 16 20:19
schestowitz"if it's on on FB, it didn't happen!!"Jul 16 20:20
schestowitz*not onJul 16 20:20
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_Goblinfunny that....Jul 16 20:20
schestowitzI need to do some C coding todayJul 16 20:20
schestowitzI've got time till 5amJul 16 20:20
_Goblinthere was a judge who ruled something similar in relation to evidence.....Jul 16 20:20
_Goblin"If its not written down, it didn't happen"Jul 16 20:20
schestowitzI wrote some perl/bash scripts today to auto-downloadJul 16 20:20
schestowitz_Goblin: that's trueJul 16 20:21
schestowitzActuallyJul 16 20:21
schestowitzIt's true and I'm a big proponent of this thinkingJul 16 20:21
schestowitzThat's why I write down a lot of my thoughts, e.g. when I wait somewhereJul 16 20:21
schestowitzThought sand ideas I sometimes come back to laterJul 16 20:21
schestowitzAnd I can upload them to the Web for use by other peopleJul 16 20:21
schestowitzI wrote a lot of stuff over the years and I usually ensure it's tidied up and summarisedJul 16 20:22
koolhead17_Goblin: hoiJul 16 20:22
schestowitzThis way you can refer people to something you wrote rather than recall and reexplainJul 16 20:22
schestowitzWhen I feel like I'm done with the topic, I move onJul 16 20:22
schestowitzLike Novell, or Microsoft spin on 'counterfeiting', even Gates' different tricks that I think techrights has covered quite exhaustively, except more evidence and anecdote that keep confirming the allegationsJul 16 20:23
schestowitz_Goblin: koolheadi17 is a KDE guruJul 16 20:23
schestowitzhe'll lecture to all of them soonJul 16 20:23
schestowitzAnd they pay him to come thereJul 16 20:23
schestowitzHe'll go like, "THIS is how you do it, hackers!"Jul 16 20:23
*schestowitz walks off stageJul 16 20:24
schestowitzI guess me just veering off like this because IRC has been unusually quiet over the past weekJul 16 20:24
schestowitzNew been slow since 4th of JulyJul 16 20:25
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schestowitzAnd this week was bad weather so it's only Sat. night and I got almost everything done till Monday... which is weird... So, _Goblin, when will you put up the shownotes? I'd dent again when you doJul 16 20:25
_Goblinthanks....youve reminded me....Jul 16 20:26
GoForbes28koolhead17: XFCE is BETTER!Jul 16 20:26
*GoForbes28 ducks for cover.Jul 16 20:26
_GoblinWe'll have to set up that shared folder tooJul 16 20:26
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schestowitz> You can find a compiled Ubuntu 64 bit version on our SVN server.Jul 16 20:33
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schestowitz> DanJul 16 20:33
schestowitzAh, got it :-)Jul 16 20:33
asdfas2wefwhttp://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/appsblog/2011/jul/15/app-developers-withdraw-us-patentsJul 16 20:33
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schestowitzyes, important articleJul 16 20:33
schestowitzit's cited a lot todayJul 16 20:34
schestowitzWhich I'm happy aboutJul 16 20:34
schestowitzI said the same many timesJul 16 20:34
schestowitzBut this one is from a 'paper' so more people pay attentionJul 16 20:34
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schestowitzANd more people use it as ammo vs swpats and usptoJul 16 20:34
schestowitzI have another article about it comingJul 16 20:34
schestowitzBut I'm tied to coding till the morning, I'll do it thenJul 16 20:34
schestowitzit sure seems like the tipping point for patent isdiciocyJul 16 20:34
schestowitzLinkeIn front page shows gangster film imageJul 16 20:35
schestowitzThe titleJul 16 20:35
schestowitzAPple's patent attack on HTCJul 16 20:35
schestowitzLobbying for embargoJul 16 20:35
schestowitzSo people like _Goblin with an HTC phone will hopefully take this personalJul 16 20:35
schestowitzApple wants their phones banned... for competingJul 16 20:35
schestowitz_Goblin: _Poor Apple, eh?Jul 16 20:35
schestowitzsnit will still buy their junkJul 16 20:36
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schestowitz_Goblin: for shared folder I can set a drag and drop thingJul 16 20:36
schestowitzover SSHJul 16 20:36
schestowitzSecure Shell/ with GUIJul 16 20:36
schestowitzSo in your file manager (I think you still use GNOME's) you just put in the URL and drag to itJul 16 20:37
schestowitzI don't think we need third parties for that, I have some servers lying aroundJul 16 20:37
schestowitzHow much storage space do you want?Jul 16 20:38
_Goblinit was just a synced directory....thought it would be cool to share ideas for the show etcJul 16 20:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is andyc with 118 dents!Jul 16 20:42
schestowitzsureJul 16 20:47
schestowitzBut let's use one we controlJul 16 20:47
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schestowitzhow much space do we need?Jul 16 20:47
schestowitzIn CS I have ~500MB accountJul 16 20:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] Star Wars shwag http://coffee.jezra.net/coffee/20110716 #sip_and_clickJul 16 20:51
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GoForbes28schestowitz: Would you say this shared folder thing you are doing could be utilized as a Dropbox alternative?  I'm trying find a solution for my brother and myselfJul 16 21:00
schestowitzyesJul 16 21:01
schestowitzbut maybe dropbox has ome gizmosJul 16 21:01
schestowitzanyway with buses and kio slaves it should be possible to even stream over itJul 16 21:02
schestowitzubuntuone exists tooJul 16 21:02
GoForbes28I wanted to go with something cloud-lessJul 16 21:02
GoForbes28Opera Unite does this, but seems a little muchJul 16 21:02
GoForbes28(pardon me, fog-less :))Jul 16 21:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Testing the new Gwibber that landed in Oneiric. Pretty damn sweet. :-) #ubuntu #gwibberJul 16 21:02
GoForbes28schestowitz: All we really want is to sync a common folder between our respective computersJul 16 21:05
GoForbes28like sparkleshare, minus monoJul 16 21:05
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schestowitzI still try to find fastmarch_mex.mexa64 (no such file anywhere in the SVN repo). Should I just compile it myself or it is supposed to be found elsewhere?Jul 16 21:30
schestowitzhttp://i.imgur.com/6BaRC.gifJul 16 21:36
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_GoblinGoForbes28, I personally use DropboxJul 16 21:40
schestowitzwe can use something more secure and powerfulJul 16 21:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] TECHBYTES: TechBytes Audiocast – Episode 55 – 15/07/11 – “Alliance, Alliance, Alliance?” http://tinyurl.com/6gm89qzJul 16 22:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: TechBytes Audiocast – Episode 55 – 15/07/11 – “Alliance, Alliance, Alliance?” « OpenBytes .::. Size~: 39.92 KBJul 16 22:39
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DaemonFCGet Canadian Insurance ID CardJul 16 22:48
DaemonFCRequired for traveling in Canada.Jul 16 22:48
DaemonFCdamned CanadiansJul 16 22:48
DaemonFCand their damned Canadian car insurance ID cardsJul 16 22:48
DaemonFC:PJul 16 22:48
DaemonFCI bet they're rainbow colored too, pansiesJul 16 22:49
DaemonFC:)Jul 16 22:49
DaemonFCI hate government websites....Jul 16 22:50
DaemonFCthe feds have a fetish for Windows and IIS and all other crappy thingsJul 16 22:50
DaemonFCand tend to make sites that don't work right on real web browsersJul 16 22:51
DaemonFCthe only thing I haven't seen them do (yet) is demand silverlightJul 16 22:51
DaemonFCthis time I got a thing in the mail from Social Security telling me to log into their web site to see how much money I'll get when I retire (if the laws don't change in the next 40 years or so)Jul 16 22:52
DaemonFCand the site doesn't work right in Opera, it uses nonstandard IE crap that Firefox supportsJul 16 22:53
DaemonFCso they use that as a way out and to say use IE -or- FirefoxJul 16 22:53
DaemonFCthis kind of reminds me of the last time I tried to pay my taxes online (I've been using paper forms ever since)Jul 16 22:55
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cubezzzbeen doing my taxes online since 2002Jul 16 23:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] IT BEGINS. NOW. http://party.thesilentnumber.me/ The full moon beckons.Jul 16 23:14
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cubezzzI'm not sure if people or governments have a "windows fetish"Jul 16 23:15
cubezzzI think they are just lazyJul 16 23:15
DaemonFCI've been playing around with FGLRX and kwin's new OpenGL 2 compositor backendJul 16 23:17
DaemonFC1. The Tear Free option in Catalyst Control Center doesn't do anythingJul 16 23:18
DaemonFC2. Enabling vsync in kwin makes moving windows around really choppyJul 16 23:18
DaemonFCother than that it works fineJul 16 23:18
DaemonFCif you use the legacy OpenGL 1.x backend, then Tear Free and vsync both work fineJul 16 23:19
DaemonFCif you don't mind some tearing you can run the new backend ok :)Jul 16 23:19
DaemonFCit's not as bad as the KDE developers were making it soundJul 16 23:19
DaemonFCthey insinuate that it will fail completely Jul 16 23:20
DaemonFCusing OpenGL 1.x and fixed function emulation creates overhead, but not a lotJul 16 23:20
DaemonFCthere are no effects that actually require the OpenGL 2.x backend that I'm aware ofJul 16 23:21
DaemonFCmost FGLRX users won't even know or care what backend they get :)Jul 16 23:21
schestowitz[23:15] <cubezzz> I'm not sure if people or governments have a "windows fetish"Jul 16 23:33
schestowitzwindows is fat-ishJul 16 23:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @whirledsol: @ProfBrianCox A bar walks into a man... Sorry, wrong reference frame.Jul 16 23:47
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2009/12/28/apple-helps-fight-linux/Jul 16 23:57
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schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/changturtle/statuses/92330780759564288Jul 16 23:57
TechrightsBot-tr@changturtle: @apple helps fight linux  http://t.co/po7CWWLJul 16 23:57
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: Apple Helps Microsoft Attack Google’s Linux While Google Spreads GNU/Linux, ODF | Techrights .::. Size~: 124.57 KBJul 16 23:58

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