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| DrPizza | schestowitz: You fail to explain how these "criteria" negatively impact on actual _users_. | Jul 19 00:00 |
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| Snit | DrPizza: it is sad. Schestowitz is completely convinced he is right but he has *nothing* to support his claim. | Jul 19 00:00 |
| DrPizza | It's funny, you're very like RMS in that regard. | Jul 19 00:00 |
| ThistleWeb | I see it like DVD players who state a "feature" is that it "plays region 2 discs", there's 8 regions, it can't play the other 7, but being able to play only 1 is a "feature" | Jul 19 00:00 |
| schestowitz | [23:59] <DrPizza> DRM is irrelevant. | Jul 19 00:00 |
| schestowitz | Tell this to Live Music users | Jul 19 00:00 |
| schestowitz | Or whatever Microsoft called that last DRM scheme that collapsed | Jul 19 00:00 |
| DrPizza | ??? | Jul 19 00:00 |
| Snit | He wants me to follow some links and try to interpret them as he does so maybe I can figure out his attempts at reasoning. | Jul 19 00:00 |
| DrPizza | We're talking about Mac OS X. | Jul 19 00:00 |
| ThistleWeb | you're allowed to use it oonly in ways authorised by the makers | Jul 19 00:01 |
| schestowitz | I'm not like RMS | Jul 19 00:01 |
| schestowitz | I'm RSS | Jul 19 00:01 |
| schestowitz | And I don't agree with him on many things | Jul 19 00:01 |
| schestowitz | You did the same blanket test/statement about _Goblin | Jul 19 00:01 |
| Snit | schestowitz: again - I am on a Mac. Now. How is it being "hostile" to me as a user? I can speak of many areas where it is being "friendly" - and more so than any other environment. | Jul 19 00:01 |
| DrPizza | true, you're not like RMS; you've contributed even less to society than he has. | Jul 19 00:01 |
| schestowitz | suggesting that his convictions are inheroted from others in this channel. How foolish. | Jul 19 00:01 |
| Snit | schestowitz: but you are saying *your* views are simply those at some links. I am asking about your views. Your support. For your claim. | Jul 19 00:02 |
| schestowitz | DrPizza: I'm in my 20s | Jul 19 00:02 |
| Snit | And you have nothing. | Jul 19 00:02 |
| schestowitz | IIRC, many people don't do significant things until their 30s | Jul 19 00:02 |
| Snit | Heck, I can give examples of how desktop Linux is "user hostile"… works against how users (humans) operate. | Jul 19 00:02 |
| DrPizza | I mean, I don't agree with pretty much any of RMS's viewpoints on "freedom", but at least the man wrote some source code in the 80s. | Jul 19 00:02 |
| DrPizza | What have you done? | Jul 19 00:03 |
| Snit | I wrote an AIM bot that fooled people for hours at a time. :) | Jul 19 00:03 |
| DrPizza | lol | Jul 19 00:03 |
| DrPizza | I'm asking schestowitz | Jul 19 00:03 |
| Snit | Does that count? :) OK, I also educate people on how to use computers. | Jul 19 00:03 |
| schestowitz | I write FOSS all the time | Jul 19 00:03 |
| Snit | I know… I just wanted to jump in and answer for myself. | Jul 19 00:03 |
| schestowitz | lates... | Jul 19 00:04 |
| schestowitz | laters... | Jul 19 00:04 |
| Snit | schestowitz: can you name some of your projects? I would like to see what they are and what they do. | Jul 19 00:04 |
| Snit | schestowitz: later. Have a great day | Jul 19 00:04 |
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| Snit | To be clear: schestowitz says Macs are "user hostile" but cannot think of how, and also claims to write FOSS every day - but cannot provide a single software title for me to look at. | Jul 19 00:05 |
| Snit | Interesting. | Jul 19 00:05 |
| schestowitz | most of my code achieves innovatiev scientific stuff and you can find it on my site if you look. please stop highlighting me... I am trying to focus on the code | Jul 19 00:05 |
| _Goblin | Right...Im gonna have to say gn..... | Jul 19 00:06 |
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| DrPizza | Snit: also earlier he was asking for assistance with what appear to be pretty rudimentary compiler errors. | Jul 19 00:06 |
| Snit | I will stay out of the compiler debates. While I have done *some* programming and a bit more scripting (wherever you draw that line) I am *not* a programmer. | Jul 19 00:07 |
| Snit | I think my bot was likely the most complex thing I wrote - and it was only a few thousand lines - and most of that was essentially lookup tables. And in AppleScript, which is not exactly a concise language. | Jul 19 00:08 |
| Snit | Hmmm, I should run. Dinner in less than an hour and I have yet to start. | Jul 19 00:08 |
| Snit | Any ideas on what I should make for dinner? :) | Jul 19 00:08 |
| Snit | Sometimes my dinners are user hostile: http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/Dinner.png | Jul 19 00:09 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting image/png type | Jul 19 00:09 |
| Snit | :) | Jul 19 00:09 |
| Snit | Does that mean web links are no-nos around here? | Jul 19 00:09 |
| Snit | tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/Dinner.png | Jul 19 00:09 |
| Snit | That seems to work. | Jul 19 00:09 |
| Snit | http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/Dinner.png | Jul 19 00:09 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting image/png type | Jul 19 00:09 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] RD @fsf Interview with @warp -- http://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/interview-with-musicbrainz-developer-kuno-woudt | Jul 19 00:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] This http://www.cleverbot.com/ is one cleverbot, just like @x11r5! | Jul 19 00:09 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Interview with MusicBrainz developer Kuno Woudt — Free Software Foundation — working together for free software .::. Size~: 22.99 KB | Jul 19 00:09 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Cleverbot.com - a clever bot - speak to an AI with some Actual Intelligence? .::. Size~: 40.57 KB | Jul 19 00:09 |
| Snit | But not that. Got it. | Jul 19 00:09 |
| DrPizza | Snit: no, it means their idiot bot reports spurious errors to the channel | Jul 19 00:13 |
| Snit | Ah, got it | Jul 19 00:13 |
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| Snit | schestowitz: any luck thinking of a way my Mac might be "user hostile" in a way the alternatives are not? | Jul 19 00:33 |
| schestowitz | “Humans are gifted with extremely sensitive bullshit detectors.” | Jul 19 00:35 |
| Snit | And you are bothered I have detected yours? | Jul 19 00:36 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.fsf.org/search?SearchableText=apple | Jul 19 00:39 |
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| schestowitz | hth | Jul 19 00:39 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] [Linux Magazine] Jon maddog Hall :- "They are at it again... Closed Source Companies and Lobbyists" http://bit.ly/pVsXS6 http://j.mp/mU2aIz | Jul 19 00:51 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] my most subversive #HPR episode is out http://hackerpublicradio.org/eps/hpr0771.mp3 | Jul 19 01:04 | |
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| schestowitz | [00:09] <Snit> Does that mean web links are no-nos around here? | Jul 19 01:29 |
| schestowitz | you linked to an image | Jul 19 01:29 |
| schestowitz | What would you expect page title to be? | Jul 19 01:29 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] How long will Guardian ed, Rusbridger permit his brother-in-law to abuse his position? http://t.co/sRXMQQR | Jul 19 01:41 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: 2011-07-18: The Guardian blames Wikileaks for the arrest of Bradley Manning | WL Central .::. Size~: 79.13 KB | Jul 19 01:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @lxoliva !problematic in US hotels for about 5 years, apparently due to unforeseen consequences of regulation. No need to worry re #Brazil | Jul 19 01:43 | |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/qubitarkhive | Jul 19 01:53 |
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| schestowitz | Who's this? | Jul 19 01:53 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Murdoch's hyprocracy over WikiLeaks http://t.co/4vzf5b0 | Jul 19 02:01 | |
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| DrPizza | Snit: lol; another generic search because he can't be bothered to defend his claim | Jul 19 02:18 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fontana looks like I'm going to have to try MacOS X too, for even you guys don't understand my humor ;-) | Jul 19 02:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @lxoliva If that happens we are all doomed :-) | Jul 19 03:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Arjuno. | Jul 19 03:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Louise Boat? Anoymous? WikiLeaks, Credit Card companies? It is all the same for Sky News... http://t.co/4vRvAt2 | Jul 19 03:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Have I told you all that I like !CC0 ? | Jul 19 03:11 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] RT @mlinksva http://thewire.co.uk/articles/7080/ "if you can get millions to start smashing their computers, I'd suddenly be a whole lot ... | Jul 19 03:18 | |
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| AdmFubar_ | hi all... fond this at defective by design... dunno if anyoen here has seen it yet thought i'd pass it along http://www.defectivebydesign.org/youtube-rentals | Jul 19 03:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Help warn people about YouTube Rentals | DefectiveByDesign.org .::. Size~: 16.55 KB | Jul 19 03:44 |
| AdmFubar_ | later all | Jul 19 03:44 |
| AdmFubar_ | :) | Jul 19 03:44 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] RT @reality WELCOME TO GOOGLE PLUS. DANGER: THE INFORMATION YOU PUBLISH ON THE INTERNET MAY BE READABLE ON THE INTERNET. | Jul 19 03:44 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] @nj3ma There are great advantages to be had by decentralizing workload. But utter dependence on JS for presentation sure is an anti-pattern. | Jul 19 03:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] How many audiocasts did I miss? | Jul 19 03:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Politicians,NOTW and coppers. Don't worry your once in 5 yearly vote crushes corruption, honest. #politics #herding. | Jul 19 04:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Bloody hell 4.15 best get some kip. | Jul 19 04:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @threethirty: ♻ @arder: Anonymous censurado por Google - Google versus Anonymous - http://ur1.ca/4qgd1 #scroogled | Jul 19 04:23 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @threethirty: NEW BLOGPOST: Warning: Youtube Rentals ur1.ca/4qgpf | Jul 19 04:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] RT @lnxwalt Oh, no, #Dodgers. Don't let the Giants win. Of all possible teams, do not lose to these guys. #LABaseball | Jul 19 04:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxconfau/@linuxconfau] Thanks to all who have submitted mini-conf proposals. Lots of great submissions! We will notify submitter(s) mid-August. #lca2012 | Jul 19 05:13 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Rockin' the Bit Shifter at @HeatSyncLabs | Jul 19 05:16 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fontana heh. I wouldn't rule out entirely the possibility that Apple sees the light and releases MacOS X as Free Software ;-) | Jul 19 05:26 | |
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| DaemonFC | heh | Jul 19 05:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @ioerror: What is the NSA doing with all that data? This is what the NSA is doing with all that data to.pbs.org/r3G4za see also iarpa.gov | Jul 19 05:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] Found #minicm. Will look into this at the next convenient occasion. #android #x10minipro #gingerbread #froyo | Jul 19 06:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] "Software architects should also be coders" - Richard Monson-Haefel !q | Jul 19 06:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[kernellogauthor/@kernellogauthor] Had expected #linux #kernel 3.0 this morning. Was mostly right with that assumption, but here is why it's not there yet http://bit.ly/rfY9si | Jul 19 06:28 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] cchits.net is an awesome idea and implementation. Thanks to @jontheniceguy for developing it and and #linuxoutlaws for mentioning it! | Jul 19 06:33 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[freemjd/@freemjd] #Jamendo's "similar albums" feature can lead to a world of pain. #lifelessons | Jul 19 06:41 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] "If you are not hands-on, you should be hands-off" | Jul 19 06:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] ♻ @gbraad: "If you are not hands-on, you should be hands-off" | Jul 19 06:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] "Why ND Is Neither Necessary Nor Sufficient To Prevent Misrepresentation" http://ur1.ca/n0bf /by @robmyers /via @mlinksva !cc #rantifesto | Jul 19 06:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @Develop4AppUp: Power management & background app designation for #MeeGo tablet apps | #AppUp http://intel.ly/ozA99B | Jul 19 06:49 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @N900_Drips: Butaca: getting close to the first release http://bit.ly/nvxSgc #Nokia #N900 | Jul 19 06:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @My_Maemo: JanKenPon - rock-paper-scissors game for the N900: http://My-Maemo.com/?p=7383 #N900 #Maemo | Jul 19 06:51 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @threethirty: ♻ @clacke: "Why ND Is Neither Necessary Nor Sufficient To Prevent Misrepresentation" http://ur1.ca/n0bf /by @robmyers #cc | Jul 19 06:58 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @threethirty: ♻ @rob_t_firefly: Kids invited to Google+, entered birth dates, lost access to years of e-mail. http://bit.ly/oA4vs1 | Jul 19 06:59 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[faither/@faither] ♻ @dbd: Help warn people about YouTube rentals -- http://ur1.ca/4qcxr #dbd #fsf #gnu | Jul 19 07:08 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @rozzin Time for #Sita Sings the Blues to become popular in Germany—now that It's been #banned by a bogus !copyright claim...? http:/ ... | Jul 19 07:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] w00t! Finally getting a handle on #ePub format. Funny; I never realized i was one of the people who *need* to know how things work !SelfPub | Jul 19 07:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] The #rantifesto rebuttal by @jzb fails to convince. The comments on #lwn explain why. http://lwn.net/Articles/450963/ #antirantifesto | Jul 19 07:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] What an excellent article by @robmyers "Why ND Is Neither Necessary Nor Sufficient To Prevent Misrepresentation" http://ur1.ca/n0bf !license | Jul 19 07:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @x11r5 you want to know where #freshmeat hid the themes? #Linux | Jul 19 07:24 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @Develop4AppUpEU: RT @lucasmassuh: Intel AppUp Center retail partners video http://lnkd.in/TC_hgU | Jul 19 07:44 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] g'night @vanden | Jul 19 07:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] Excellent #antirantifesto rebuttal by Wouter Verhelst http://grep.be/blog/en/computer/legal/freedom_II #rantifesto #ccnd #ccnc !cc | Jul 19 07:56 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @x11r5 @psquid Suddenly i know i can only get tasks in the right direction #ux #gnome | Jul 19 07:58 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Look What’s On Amazon.com’s Best Selling List! http://ur1.ca/4qib4 Linux.. or #ballnux . It was the same when #EeePC came out. | Jul 19 08:06 | |
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| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/79117174 | Jul 19 08:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Alexandre Oliva (lxoliva)'s status on Monday, 18-Jul-11 22:41:20 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz my LinkedIn account is closed. does it not say so? I still get its spam, but I hoped I was no longer visible there | Jul 19 08:06 |
| schestowitz | It's possible to disable that | Jul 19 08:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @lxoliva It's possible to disable that | Jul 19 08:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @speeddefrost: My dynamic dictionary implementation in C seems to be working. My suckiness is slowly going away. | Jul 19 08:13 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] It has just occurred to me that one one of the main Comes vs. MS mirrors is dead http://ur1.ca/4qifa dead links now, with criminal evidence. | Jul 19 08:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] If people do not keep up their copies of such documents, #Microsoft will deny those crimes it committed ever happened. #ComesVsMicrosoft | Jul 19 08:21 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] woken up by the builders who will be putting in the decking on Friday coming by earlier than expected to measure the loge floor. | Jul 19 08:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] 8:45 is just barely an acceptable time to be awake, definitely not for interacting with people. which is to say: I am not a morning person. | Jul 19 08:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] ah well .. i'm up now .. time to work on a very strange bug with folderview and applet handles. | Jul 19 08:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #PCLinuxOS Phoenix #XFCE Edition 2011-07 Final is here http://ur1.ca/4qiib "PCLinuxOS Phoenix Edition 2011-07 is now available for download" | Jul 19 08:28 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Today's !InconstantMoon serialization is online: htttp://ur1.ca/4qijb !SelfPub | Jul 19 08:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] A first look at #PCLinuxOS 2011.6 http://ur1.ca/4qij9 it's a lovely distro | Jul 19 08:34 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] one of my favorite things about !Identi.ca is being able to jump into the argument even if it's over thanks to #context @mcnalu | Jul 19 08:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @laurelrusswurm: Today's !InconstantMoon serialization is online: http://ur1.ca/4qijb !SelfPub | Jul 19 08:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Giving Audacity its due: An audio editor with serious functionality http://ur1.ca/4qik0 very nice, wish there was a #Qt version/branch/fork | Jul 19 08:36 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Mageia 2 Release Details Revealed http://ur1.ca/4qiks "The consensus was to use basically the same cycle used in !Mageia 1." | Jul 19 08:38 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @laurelrusswurm: one of my favorite things about !Identi.ca is being able to jump into the argument even if it's over thanks to #context | Jul 19 08:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] I like rolling the word Laphroaig around in my mind @mcnalu | Jul 19 08:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @eebrah :) | Jul 19 08:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] How #GNU #Linux saved my computer from #Windows Update http://ur1.ca/4qin9 "Without the Linux CD, I'd have been stuffed." | Jul 19 08:46 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @schestowitz How #GNU #Linux saved my computer from #Windows Update http://ur1.ca/4qin9 "Without the Linux CD, I'd have been stuffed." | Jul 19 08:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 7 days in the cloud: My week with the Samsung #Chromebook http://ur1.ca/4qinf "I warn you now, it's a tale of both triumph and tragedy." | Jul 19 08:48 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Bonjour et Bonsoir @aurele | Jul 19 08:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] off to dreamland .... good night !Identiverse | Jul 19 08:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Top 10 FPS #Games for Linux http://ur1.ca/4qios "Quick collection of 10 FPS games for #Linux (in no particular order)" | Jul 19 08:51 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !Debian invites you to Debian Day http://ur1.ca/4ouig "the conference opens its doors to anyone interested in finding out more" | Jul 19 08:54 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Test Driving !GNU Hurd, With Benchmarks Against #Linux http://ur1.ca/4qd2m "In this article is a brief look at Debian GNU/Hurd" !debian !fsf | Jul 19 08:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Distro testing marathon http://ur1.ca/4qiq3 !fedora 15 | Jul 19 08:56 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] 10 curses of the analytical thinker > http://nd.gd/se ( via #techrepublic ) cc @nj3ma @kelzOKO @fredmanglis @dennismungai @VikGorani @yasena | Jul 19 08:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] for my latest #HPR it occurred after recording that #ChromeOS would be ideal | Jul 19 08:58 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Asia Pacific traders prefer open source and #gnu #linux http://ur1.ca/4qiri "as indicated by the number of installations of Red Hat" | Jul 19 09:01 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Ideal for night blogging" #LOLWhat http://i.imgur.com/IJD7i.jpg | Jul 19 09:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @LulzSec TheSun.co.uk now redirects to our twitter feed. Hello, everyone that wanted to visit The Sun! How is your day? Good? Good! | Jul 19 09:04 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @jargon: @eebrah i thought the lulzboat had sailed? -- That was just funny, so I redented! ( sue me! ) | Jul 19 09:06 | |
| Snit | schestowitz: did you ever come up with those reasons why you think the Mac is "user hostile"? | Jul 19 09:06 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] !fsfe 's new donate page http://fsfe.org/donate now automated monthly and yearly donations through credit card and (in Germany) direct debit | Jul 19 09:24 | |
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| MinceR | geekings | Jul 19 09:35 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] A 23yr old wants to know - will you lick this? http://ur1.ca/4qj0h | Jul 19 09:38 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[kernellogauthor/@kernellogauthor] Linus 3.0 was announced more that thirteen years ago already http://bit.ly/qCWrkU #PostsToConfuseFollowers | Jul 19 09:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Happy 21st Vivek! http://ur1.ca/4qj0s | Jul 19 09:39 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @dickturpin: Just cleared down 1000 items in my Google Reader and not one story grabbed me by the balls so that my mind followed. | Jul 19 09:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @jargon: no fan of evolution. wish it didn't come installed by default -- Why not opt for "intelligent design"? #BadJoke | Jul 19 09:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] 13 new #pdfreaders bugs solved in #Italy http://ur1.ca/4qj3a Help us fixing the rest of it http://ur1.ca/435fc !fsfe !fs | Jul 19 09:51 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[torproject/@torproject] Tor 0.2.3.2-alpha is out, includes two new experimental features: https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-talk/2011-July/020861.html | Jul 19 09:59 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] New Blog Post | I Solemnly Swear That I Am Up To No Good http://is.gd/6EUaX2 #HPR #Linux | Jul 19 10:09 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 19/7/2011: Why GNU/Linux Feels Better Than Mac OS X, Howard County Library Uses Ubuntu http://ur1.ca/4qj9w !techrights summary | Jul 19 10:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Links 19/7/2011: Why GNU/Linux Feels Better Than Mac OS X, Howard County Library Uses Ubuntu http://ur1.ca/4qj9w #techrights summary | Jul 19 10:16 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @schestowitz: Links 19/7/2011: y GNU/Linux Feels Better Than Mac OS X, Howard County Library Uses Ubuntu http://ur1.ca/4qj9w !techrights | Jul 19 10:19 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @marjoleink: good morning, dear Laconicats! -- Morning! [ Afternoon round here ] | Jul 19 10:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] Wait! There's tab isolation for the mobile version of #Firefox, but not the #desktop?? Come on Mozilla! We can do this. > http://nd.gd/sf | Jul 19 10:31 | |
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| schestowitz | > Dear Doctor Roy, | Jul 19 10:31 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 19 10:31 |
| schestowitz | > Here it goes: | Jul 19 10:31 |
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| schestowitz | > april-vs-swpats_ES | Jul 19 10:31 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 19 10:31 |
| schestowitz | > #Hats Off to Spain, Italy && Cheers to APRIL. | Jul 19 10:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] #Toshiba's !Android tablet has full sized USB, HDMI and SD ports, USB mouse, storage works OOTB [ what about 3G dongles? ] > http://nd.gd/sg | Jul 19 10:34 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] #Toshiba's !Android tablet aka the #Thrive. USB mouse works OOTB. What about 3G dongles? > http://nd.gd/sg @nj3ma @kelzOKO @RamanusAsango | Jul 19 10:36 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I'm sure I'm too cynical, cos I'm now wondering how much #Murdoch has offered @piersmorgan - I must be mad :) | Jul 19 10:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] TV Broadcast engineering is still the preserve of proprietary companies and technologies. | Jul 19 10:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] The TV industry's obsession with "true black" is baffling. | Jul 19 10:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] RT @eebrah #Toshiba's !Android tablet has full sized USB, HDMI and SD ports, USB mouse, storage works OOTB [ what about 3G dongles? ] > ... | Jul 19 10:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] RT @eebrah Wait! There's tab isolation for the mobile version of #Firefox, but not the #desktop?? Come on Mozilla! We can do this. > htt ... | Jul 19 10:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] "Apple Patents Portrait-Landscape Flipping: the patent system is broken" http://bit.ly/nJ5VMQ | Jul 19 10:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] @eebrah Afternoon! | Jul 19 10:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] Time that you will inadvertently spend fixing #Windoze issues as my GNU/Linux system chugs along flawlessly :P :P [ double :P ] | Jul 19 10:46 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Pretty sure @ntvkenya still has CRT studio monitors. | Jul 19 10:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] @nj3ma Afternoon to you too, good Sir. How has your morning been? Productive I presume. | Jul 19 10:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Consumer scale large OLED displays are rumored to be on track for late 2011-2012. | Jul 19 10:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ES: Lo que Google necesita es una ruptura, no obediencia y conformidad. http://ur1.ca/4qjk6 EN: http://ur1.ca/4phpy #swpats | Jul 19 10:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Understand there will be a meetup on Friday 22nd July @ihubNairobi to form a local chapter of the Creative Commons v/@itosh cc @eebrah | Jul 19 10:51 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fsfe/@fsfe] RT @kirschner !fsfe 's new donate page http://fsfe.org/donate now automated monthly and yearly donations through credit card and (in Ger ... | Jul 19 10:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fsfe/@fsfe] RT @kirschner 13 new #pdfreaders bugs solved in #Italy http://ur1.ca/4qj3a Help us fixing the rest of it http://ur1.ca/435fc !fsfe !fs | Jul 19 10:54 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] @eebrah More productive than most. Spent in a studio. | Jul 19 10:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] #NoteToSelf There is a dude in the classifieds claiming to sell all sizes laptop screens for Khs 7,500 - 0726684278 cc @nj3ma @kelzOKO | Jul 19 10:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ES: Jaron Lanier es un Troll de Microsoft y Fuente de FUD Contra Todo lo Libre Software http://ur1.ca/4qjlj EN: http://ur1.ca/4phvw | Jul 19 10:58 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @bigbrovar: everything on TV is a script... everything | Jul 19 10:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @nj3ma: Understand there will be a meetup on Friday 22nd July @ihubNairobi to form a local chapter of the Creative Commons | Jul 19 10:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tuxradar/@tuxradar] Can we start trusting Microsoft? Your opinions wanted for our podcast Open Ballot: http://t.co/TIeEtUN | Jul 19 11:03 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] Does Not Compute: 10 PC Myths from Movies and Television > http://nd.gd/sd (via maximumpc) cc @bigbrovar @jargon | Jul 19 11:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ES: La Ley de Patentes de Europa, Bajo presión, APRIL Participa Cada Vez Más http://ur1.ca/4qjnr EN: http://ur1.ca/4pi3j #swpats #ffii #fr | Jul 19 11:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] @eebrah 7,5k/- laptop screens dude, noted. | Jul 19 11:04 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] As a TV studio pro, would understand why true black would be important to you. Hence CRTs. For a consumer, just don't see the point. | Jul 19 11:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] ION @manuel254 attempting to install #XUbuntu 10.04 on same #3K PC that choked on Ubuntu 10.04 *fingers crossed* cc @nj3ma @kelzOKO | Jul 19 11:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] @eebrah Remember you quipping that kina manu are the 720p generation. Were reminiscing on the good old 320p days with studio folks. | Jul 19 11:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] OLEDs are a TV pro's wet dream. Unfortunately they will likely be too damn expensive when they get on the market. | Jul 19 11:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] The really nice LCDs[for pro use] are the 42". They are way expensive,and just won't fit into current racks. | Jul 19 11:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Damn that was quick: New Apple iOS Already Vulnerable To Jailbreaking Hacks http://bit.ly/oEIEBr | Jul 19 11:11 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] @nj3ma 80W #Aucma solar panel going for 20,000/-, 50Ah deep cycle solar batt @ 7,500/- Why are ppl waiting on @kenyapower again? cc @kelzOKO | Jul 19 11:13 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] @eebrah Kina Thome,Makanda, the Boomba guys have transformed themselves into a music video production house quite successfully. Envious | Jul 19 11:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] @eebrah What fascinates me most about them is their spirit of jugaad. Not a Mac in sight. | Jul 19 11:16 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] @eebrah Although, you do get the feeling that it will only be a matter of time. Sadly with money, all sensibility is thrown out the window. | Jul 19 11:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] HTC Releases Source Code for Desire Z, Incredible S, and the Flyer Tablet http://bit.ly/riOeYg | Jul 19 11:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] RT @jrobertson RT @johndrinkwater *blank stare* people are now sending their templated HTML to browser and running the parser in javascr ... | Jul 19 11:18 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] @eebrah I've found in my experience that the TV/Movie industry has the planets largest concentration of CS illiterates cc @jargon @bigbrovar | Jul 19 11:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] @eebrah e.g The pro editors who swear that their Mac G5s running OSX are the world's most stable system cc @jargon @bigbrovar | Jul 19 11:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Three calls came in while I was on a call. #yufreecalls cc @eebrah | Jul 19 11:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] @nj3ma That is good news [ #Boomba clan music video production outfit ] | Jul 19 11:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Pulse cross in monitors , while useful in !Kenya's current analogue regime, will be less relevant with digitally sampled, txm'd pictures. | Jul 19 11:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @johndrinkwater *blank stare* people are now sending their templated HTML to browser and running the parser in javascript?! what’s wr ... | Jul 19 11:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] RT @dickturpin Using my Linux Mint box to recover a supposedly lost 7GB folder on a NAS that Windows refuses to see. #Result | Jul 19 11:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] RT @eebrah @nj3ma 80W #Aucma solar panel going for 20,000/-, 50Ah deep cycle solar batt @ 7,500/- Why are ppl waiting on @kenyapower aga ... | Jul 19 11:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Doubt go.ke's initiative to move country into digital broadcasting by 2014 has been accompanied with similar changes to say KIMC's curiculum | Jul 19 11:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] @eebrah Our gov't is weird. Has plans and proposal to move country into DB by '14. Curricula at gov't schools [Kenya Mass] doesn't mirror | Jul 19 11:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Chrome OS: The Cloud-Only Problem is Coming Home to Roost http://bit.ly/oP32Fb « these limitations should have been obvious to buyers really | Jul 19 11:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @x11r5 @tekk i dont need no drugs to calm me. I never knew you read through it but how come you can't see you | Jul 19 11:36 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] RT @p4bl0 "It's important to remember that both Visa and MasterCard still allow donations to the Ku Klux Klan, but specifically block Wi ... | Jul 19 11:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] @nj3ma you should follow @theroadto, denting regional, relevant news | Jul 19 11:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] ♺ @nj3ma: /Ke gov't is weird. Has plans and proposal to move country into DB by '14. Curricula at gov't schools [Kenya Mass] doesn't mirror | Jul 19 11:39 | |
| schestowitz | less than a day after I paid for the new linux box it is already being shipped to me :-_ | Jul 19 11:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] Pleasantly surprised at the level of activity on #hurd Freenode #IRC channel cc @nj3ma @kelzOKO @dennismungai @RamanusAsango @fredmanglis | Jul 19 11:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Advisory from a TV industry practitioner to Kenyans: Whatever you do, do not buy analogue tellies for over 20k. | Jul 19 11:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] ♺ @p4bl0 "It's important to remember that both Visa & MasterCard still allow donations to the Ku Klux Klan, but specifically block Wikileaks | Jul 19 11:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @silner: Chrome OS: The Cloud-Only Problem is Coming Home to Roost http://bit.ly/oP32Fb « these limitations should've been obvious to .. | Jul 19 11:48 | |
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| *Now talking on #techrights | Jul 19 12:00 | |
| *Topic for #techrights is: TechRights.org | Channel #techrights for http://TechRights.org | Free Software Sentry – watching and reporting maneuvers of those who oppose software freedom | Jul 19 12:00 | |
| *Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Wed Sep 22 21:19:38 2010 | Jul 19 12:00 | |
| -NickServ-You are now identified for schestowitz. | Jul 19 12:00 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @rysiek Good point. I really should've connected those two things | Jul 19 12:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] There are 485 million internet users in China. More than Africa will have in 10years. #speakchinese | Jul 19 12:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jamesm/@jamesm] Linux Plumbers schedule is here, fyi - http://is.gd/f9e82H | Jul 19 12:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Watching foreign office questions waiting for the telly event of the year so far... Murdochs plus Wade in the hot seat. #corruption | Jul 19 12:12 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @mahemoff: No New Social Network Launched Today http://zite.to/oP7wDO | Jul 19 12:16 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] John Yates resignation announcement must have raised a laugh in every nick in Britain. #It'safitupiaminnocentguv | Jul 19 12:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] *sighs* http://www.joystiq.com/2011/07/18/lawsuit-filed-against-zynga-over-farmville-source-code/ -> Must be the #Facebook effect | Jul 19 12:29 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Ann "Iraq war" Clwyd is a waste of an MP slot which in itself is not up to much. | Jul 19 12:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Some old MP whose name I can't remember made an armalite ballot box joke, how times have changed. | Jul 19 12:36 | |
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| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/79167797 | Jul 19 12:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @sinclair (zxsinclair)'s status on Tuesday, 19-Jul-11 10:50:09 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz which mailinglist should I check out? | Jul 19 12:44 |
| schestowitz | On the kubuntu mailing list, they said they work on 47. integration | Jul 19 12:44 |
| schestowitz | KDE 4.7 | Jul 19 12:45 |
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| eebrah | Walter : Hii ni gani? | Jul 19 12:45 |
| eebrah | sorry, not meant for here | Jul 19 12:46 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Announcement: RapidDisk (rxdsk) 1.0b Stable release http://ur1.ca/4qkhq #linux in everything it seems... | Jul 19 12:46 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] via @haris: Chinese culture encourages binge drinking in middle-aged men http://b1t.it/r8L | Jul 19 12:47 | |
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| schestowitz | eebrah: :-) | Jul 19 12:48 |
| schestowitz | hi nj3ma | Jul 19 12:48 |
| nj3ma | schestowitz: Hi doc! | Jul 19 12:50 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] RT @marxistvegan !cyberunions Talk Show Just released Episode 09 'This ones for the Tech Workers' http://ur1.ca/4qfb5 | Jul 19 12:51 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Just picked this up. Apparently a study says that Chinese culture encourages binge drinking in middle aged men. | Jul 19 12:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Apparent some people think XUBUNTU is a looker! #xfce | Jul 19 12:54 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Oops. groklaw.net shows sql error. s/o please fix? | Jul 19 13:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] Richard Stallman: "Resist the Temptations of the Cloud!" on #spiegel http://ur1.ca/4qkpw (EN) http://ur1.ca/4qkpz (DE) !fsfe !fs !gnu | Jul 19 13:12 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] New poll: How long should copyrights last? | http://red.ht/puzufG #copyright | Jul 19 13:16 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] @lxoliva You guys aim high. i don't understand my own humour. I just go with it. How can I expect others to understand? | Jul 19 13:22 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Review: #ScientificLinux 6.0 "Carbon" http://ur1.ca/4qkvf "recognized all my hardware correctly, software worked well on it,and it was fast" | Jul 19 13:37 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Security Space surveyed 38,549,333 public web servers. Linux 74.29%; Windows 20.36%; BSD 5.35% | Jul 19 13:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Vaz a bloke who has had questions about his own behaviour in the past is playing a blinder as chairperson of select committee. | Jul 19 13:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #W3Techs surveyed the top "1 Million" servers. #Linux 63.7% #Windows 33.7%; Sales!=market share!=installedbase. #IDC & #Gartner lie. | Jul 19 13:41 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laforge/@laforge] wichtige warnung der wavies vor dem hochumstrittenenen #tetra in niederbayern: http://bit.ly/ooiifx | Jul 19 13:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "misleading title" from @sjvn http://ur1.ca/4qky7 yes, misleading indeed | Jul 19 13:49 | |
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| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/79175551 | Jul 19 13:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Sander (sandersch)'s status on Tuesday, 19-Jul-11 12:46:08 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Market Share for Top Servers Across All Domains on netcraft: Apache 65.86%, Microsoft 16.82%, nginx 6.54%, Google 4.38%. .. | Jul 19 13:49 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/79175558 | Jul 19 13:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Sander (sandersch)'s status on Tuesday, 19-Jul-11 12:46:11 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz .. And Apache is the only one growing. | Jul 19 13:49 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "The underlying operating system in the MX50, MX60 and MX70 router is a customized Linux base that Meraki has enhanced." http://ur1.ca/4qkyo | Jul 19 13:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] Mozilla’s World Wide Community http://davidwboswell.wordpress.com/2011/07/18/mozillas-world-wide-community/ | Jul 19 13:54 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #UbuBox “SalentOS” 11.04 http://ur1.ca/4p8jd "The idea to make a personal operating system, flashed in my head for quite some time" | Jul 19 13:56 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Disappointing news. Huawei Ideos S7 tablet retailing @ USD450 [KES 40,000]. #ripoff | Jul 19 14:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Labour making sense for a change - UK-US special relationship 'must be based on pragmatism, not nostalgia' http://is.gd/kROpoZ | Jul 19 14:06 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: UK-US special relationship 'must be based on pragmatism, not nostalgia' | Politics | The Guardian .::. Size~: 132.53 KB | Jul 19 14:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Former #Unite leader paid £500,000, sparking 'golden goodbye' row http://is.gd/2WptjM #hypocrites - just as decadent as those they criticise | Jul 19 14:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Open source food at FOOD 2.0 | http://red.ht/otQyju #food20 @TheExpGourmand | Jul 19 14:11 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Former Unite leader paid £500,000, sparking 'golden goodbye' row | Politics | The Guardian .::. Size~: 262.22 KB | Jul 19 14:11 |
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| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/79176218 | Jul 19 14:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Sander (sandersch)'s status on Tuesday, 19-Jul-11 12:57:14 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz and for which they shared the source code? | Jul 19 14:15 |
| schestowitz | I don't want to say without checking | Jul 19 14:15 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #NetSecL 3.2 Released http://ur1.ca/4ql2y "NetSecL 3.2 comes with a brand new XFCE which increased dramatically the performance experience" | Jul 19 14:16 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] The idea of a bacon butty with brown sauce has for me become too much. | Jul 19 14:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Mozilla Challenges Google: Open Source Chrome Isn’t Good Enough http://ur1.ca/4qdu1 and the reason why for freedom we should avoid #Chrome | Jul 19 14:21 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Mozilla Challenges Google: Open Source Chrome Isn't Good Enough | ConceivablyTech .::. Size~: 42.47 KB | Jul 19 14:21 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] How the hell do I go about finding out the population of a place from opendata.go.ke from my mobile browser? | Jul 19 14:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Yates.....it was someone else (in 8-11horrs) | Jul 19 14:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Google" is synonymous with "search" now? http://ur1.ca/4ql5b | Jul 19 14:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] RT @schestowitz How #GNU #Linux saved my computer from #Windows Update http://ur1.ca/4qin9 "Without the Linux CD, I'd have been stuffed." | Jul 19 14:26 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Google is changing what we choose to remember | Geek.com .::. Size~: 60.5 KB | Jul 19 14:26 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: How Linux saved my computer from Windows Update | ZDNet UK .::. Size~: 56.84 KB | Jul 19 14:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Most searches we do (even the 'ls' command) are not powered by Google. Why blame Google for the broad area of computing which is search? | Jul 19 14:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Yates.... I have tried to explain it on numerous cases but people don't get it. Obviously Yates is only guilty of not explaining enough. | Jul 19 14:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Dear Chris Metcalfe, Authoring a widget that's not accesible with Opera Mini, hainisaidii! Yours, Opendata.go.ke User. | Jul 19 14:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] I thought the whole point of opendata.go.ke was to ease access. Try accessing data from Opera Mini,!Kenya's #1 browser cc @whiteafrican | Jul 19 14:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I am with you, we want him healthy and happy. | Jul 19 14:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Main attraction ..... the Murdochs | Jul 19 14:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] just set #konqueror (my default Web browser) to use #DuckDuckGo as the default search engine. #DDG helps FOSS, like #GSOC | Jul 19 14:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] @eebrah Check out opendata.go.ke's y slow score. | Jul 19 14:39 | |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/79178216 | Jul 19 14:39 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/conversation/76616550#notice-79178216 | Jul 19 14:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Johnny Null (johnnynull)'s status on Tuesday, 19-Jul-11 13:28:22 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz This dent is roughly five to seven years late. | Jul 19 14:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Conversation - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 10.6 KB | Jul 19 14:40 |
| schestowitz | When all the downsides of search are attributed to just one company, then it's news IMHO | Jul 19 14:40 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] http://groklaw.net/ still broken. I guess first conspiracy theories will pop up soon. | Jul 19 14:44 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Groklaw - Digging for Truth .::. Size~: 12.46 KB | Jul 19 14:44 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/79179013 | Jul 19 14:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @agentsmith's status on Tuesday, 19-Jul-11 13:42:16 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz What a link bait... http://ur1.ca/4ql9l | Jul 19 14:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> Title: Top Five Linux Contributor: Microsoft | ZDNet .::. Size~: 128.7 KB | Jul 19 14:50 |
| schestowitz | yes | Jul 19 14:50 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/sjvn/status/93314690381393920 | Jul 19 14:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @sjvn: @schestowitz Read on & it all becomes clear. | Jul 19 14:50 |
| schestowitz | The title is misleading. It's bait. | Jul 19 14:50 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #DuckDuckGo turns out to be just a front end to #Microsoft (powered by b*ng)- deleting... | Jul 19 14:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Murdoch is looking not so good. | Jul 19 14:54 | |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/79179531 | Jul 19 14:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Bernhard M. (gryps75)'s status on Tuesday, 19-Jul-11 13:52:50 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Where did you get this information? I was hoping for a good replacement for #google | Jul 19 14:54 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/conversation/76618058#notice-79179531 | Jul 19 14:54 |
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| schestowitz | It says it in their site. Maybe DuckDuckGo was not a Microsoft front end historically, but they are now. | Jul 19 14:55 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/79179628 | Jul 19 14:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Qubit ArkHive (qubitarkhive)'s status on Tuesday, 19-Jul-11 13:54:37 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz SUSE Formally hands off Mono control to Xamarin - http://goo.gl/QMdiv | Jul 19 14:55 |
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| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/79179649 | Jul 19 14:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Qubit ArkHive (qubitarkhive)'s status on Tuesday, 19-Jul-11 13:55:07 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz is SUSE in good light again for you or will you keep attacking them? | Jul 19 14:55 |
| MinceR | you could use StartPage though | Jul 19 14:55 |
| MinceR | it's a google frontend like Scroogle | Jul 19 14:56 |
| MinceR | i use DDG and StartPage nowadays | Jul 19 14:56 |
| schestowitz | SUSE is a subsidiary of a Microsoft gold-certified partner | Jul 19 14:56 |
| MinceR | (and sometimes i directly search WikiPedia) | Jul 19 14:56 |
| schestowitz | DDG is Bong | Jul 19 14:56 |
| MinceR | not exactly | Jul 19 14:56 |
| schestowitz | I will do a post to tell this to readers | Jul 19 14:56 |
| MinceR | DDG uses several sources, one of which is bìng | Jul 19 14:56 |
| MinceR | they have their own spider and they collect indexes from several sites directly (including wikipedia) | Jul 19 14:57 |
| schestowitz | it sports the Microsoft brands only in results page now | Jul 19 14:57 |
| schestowitz | Wasn't the case before | Jul 19 14:57 |
| schestowitz | Maybe it's a paid endosement | Jul 19 14:57 |
| MinceR | they advertised it as Yahoo! something-or-other | Jul 19 14:57 |
| schestowitz | Oh cool.. | Jul 19 14:58 |
| schestowitz | http://startpage.com/eng/download-startpage-plugin.html | Jul 19 14:58 |
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| schestowitz | They even have instructions for konq | Jul 19 14:58 |
| MinceR | hm, doesn't always appear so i can't quite see what DDG says now | Jul 19 14:58 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: now they proxify througn yaho | Jul 19 14:58 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft tries to make itself appear distant | Jul 19 14:58 |
| schestowitz | shell games | Jul 19 14:58 |
| MinceR | i know | Jul 19 14:58 |
| schestowitz | Like company that hires one that hired another | Jul 19 14:58 |
| schestowitz | For PR | Jul 19 14:58 |
| schestowitz | The results are scrapes Goog | Jul 19 14:58 |
| schestowitz | But scraped by MS | Jul 19 14:59 |
| schestowitz | From MSIE users | Jul 19 14:59 |
| schestowitz | With their own RAM and CPU | Jul 19 14:59 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Windows Sysinternals Process Explorer hits version number 15 (H): http://bit.ly/qgTmlJ | Jul 19 14:59 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Sysinternals Process Explorer hits version number 15 - The H Security: News and Features .::. Size~: 43.82 KB | Jul 19 14:59 |
| MinceR | another thing you can go for are metasearch engines that can be told not to use bìng (google generally bans them so none of them offer it) | Jul 19 14:59 |
| MinceR | unfortunately, ixquick no longer says what engines it's using | Jul 19 14:59 |
| schestowitz | Using .ixquick.com now | Jul 19 15:01 |
| schestowitz | it looks similar tom Google | Jul 19 15:01 |
| MinceR | i've read an article that alleges that ixquick itself is a frontend to google like their startpage is | Jul 19 15:02 |
| schestowitz | But not quite the same, I'm comparing a little | Jul 19 15:02 |
| MinceR | but it has no "enhanced by Google" logo | Jul 19 15:02 |
| schestowitz | hehe | Jul 19 15:02 |
| schestowitz | Like controled opoosition | Jul 19 15:02 |
| MinceR | it used to list the engines that answered the query, but it no longer does so | Jul 19 15:02 |
| schestowitz | SOme companies use this tactic too | Jul 19 15:02 |
| schestowitz | Like COca Cola | Jul 19 15:02 |
| MinceR | so i don't know what it is | Jul 19 15:02 |
| schestowitz | Being the "anti" of themselves | Jul 19 15:02 |
| schestowitz | And then making money from their haters too | Jul 19 15:02 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Murdoch is responding like a senior citizen suffering from dementia. Pushing things to his son. | Jul 19 15:02 | |
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| MinceR | there's also YaCy, the p2p search engine :> | Jul 19 15:03 |
| schestowitz | Tobacco do that... and health products | Jul 19 15:03 |
| schestowitz | Drugs. | Jul 19 15:03 |
| MinceR | i'm not sure how many nodes there are, though | Jul 19 15:03 |
| schestowitz | p2p I don't need.... | Jul 19 15:03 |
| schestowitz | the whole operation of searc is baffling | Jul 19 15:03 |
| schestowitz | many of the players have no spiders | Jul 19 15:03 |
| schestowitz | So you know it's just metasearch | Jul 19 15:03 |
| schestowitz | And you don't know who gets paid what, you can sometimes just tell you get privacy | Jul 19 15:03 |
| MinceR | i like the idea of p2p search | Jul 19 15:04 |
| schestowitz | not from ISPs though | Jul 19 15:04 |
| schestowitz | no https | Jul 19 15:04 |
| schestowitz | p2p is not for http | Jul 19 15:04 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Screencasting Stars of the Linux World (Linux.com) http://lwn.net/Articles/452036/rss | Jul 19 15:04 | |
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| schestowitz | or maybe links to that | Jul 19 15:04 |
| schestowitz | In which case it's very problem-specific | Jul 19 15:04 |
| MinceR | actually, iirc even Gnutella uses http for file transfers | Jul 19 15:04 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/sjvn/status/93317723173568514?iid=am-212939495113110836537606850&nid=4&uid=26603208 | Jul 19 15:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @sjvn: @schestowitz It's both bait & true & if someone reads it they'll learn something about the MSFT way of doing things. | Jul 19 15:05 |
| schestowitz | Right.. | Jul 19 15:05 |
| schestowitz | So SJVN admits link biting | Jul 19 15:05 |
| schestowitz | baiting | Jul 19 15:05 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[kernellog2/@kernellog2] Further problems with UEFI http://h-online.com/-1281549/ftw #uefi #efi #hardware #problems #staccato #driver #usbredir #systemd #badram | Jul 19 15:06 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Kernel Log: further problems with UEFI - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 43.37 KB | Jul 19 15:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Linux 3.0 Release Delayed (/.): http://bit.ly/mUCsYc | Jul 19 15:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] And WTF, is a social data player? | Jul 19 15:07 | |
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| MinceR | https://duckduckgo.com/faq.html#results | Jul 19 15:09 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Ati Socrata Social Data player. #wtf | Jul 19 15:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] I am expected to learn an API so I can find out the population of my home town? #kenya #opendata #fail | Jul 19 15:09 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] Anonymous Speaks Volumes About Google+ http://bit.ly/oJT2KK | Jul 19 15:14 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Anonymous Speaks Volumes About Google+ | PCWorld Business Center .::. Size~: 81.88 KB | Jul 19 15:14 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] That the answer to a simple question such as "where can I get 2009 census figures for my hometown" isn't #opendata.go.ke,is an #epic #fail | Jul 19 15:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] So the question still remains, where is the data? | Jul 19 15:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] A classic case of a bad implementation of an otherwise excellent and noble idea. | Jul 19 15:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laforge/@laforge] is there no #firefox pluging for removing those stupid #google redirect URLs out of search results? | Jul 19 15:21 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Murdochs in front of the house.... disaster for them. | Jul 19 15:31 | |
| schestowitz | "SeaMicro says it has packed more Intel Atom processors into a new device it claims is the most power-efficient x86 server on the market. The SM10000-64HD has 384 N570 chips, 1.5 terabytes of DDR3 memory, up to 64 SATA hard disks or solid state drives, and from eight to 64 gigabit Ethernet ports, the company says." | Jul 19 15:31 |
| schestowitz | can you have one without the Intel? | Jul 19 15:31 |
| schestowitz | http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/SeaMicro-SM1000064-HD/?kc=rss | Jul 19 15:31 |
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| schestowitz | Looks like a cage | Jul 19 15:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] Internationalization Checker Updated http://ow.ly/1dSmK5 | Jul 19 15:32 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] @laforge I've wondered that often myself, I thought maybe NoScript would take care of them? | Jul 19 15:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Standard article reports that HW Samson Mapinga is the Mayor of Mombasa o_O | Jul 19 15:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] RD @kirschner Richard Stallman: "Resist the Temptations of the Cloud!" on #spiegel http://ur1.ca/4qkpw (EN) http://ur1.ca/4qkpz (DE) !fsf | Jul 19 15:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Mapinga is obviously the Mayor of Malindi 120km north of Mombasa. | Jul 19 15:34 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Google Sweetens #Android With #Honeycomb 3.2 #SDK http://ur1.ca/4qlmp and Tiny Wi-Fi device server ships with Linux SDK http://ur1.ca/4qlmw | Jul 19 15:36 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Linux News: Developers: Google Sweetens the Android Pot With Honeycomb 3.2 SDK .::. Size~: 54.69 KB | Jul 19 15:36 |
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| schestowitz | SJVN has a "man bites dog" headline | Jul 19 15:36 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Apparently population datasets from the 2009 census haven't made it onto opendata.go.ke. Or any census for that matter. | Jul 19 15:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] The population pyramids aren't very helpful. | Jul 19 15:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] RT @schestowitz Most searches we do (even the 'ls' command) are not powered by Google. Why blame Google for the broad area of computing ... | Jul 19 15:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Note to self: You search, not Google | Jul 19 15:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] [OKCon 2011] Glyn Moody - From Openness to Abundance: the video - http://bit.ly/oDChVm why we must abolish all patents & copyright | Jul 19 15:39 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] RT @johnsu01 RD @kirschner Richard Stallman: "Resist the Temptations of the Cloud!" on #spiegel http://ur1.ca/4qkpw (EN) http://ur1.ca/4 ... | Jul 19 15:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Old #FUD / #disinformation about #Microsoft #HyperV and #Linux is back again because of The H. So old, not worth bothering to debunk... | Jul 19 15:41 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Morning, folks, how are things today? | Jul 19 15:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Today is Day 2 of Ubuntu Community Week - join us and create your LoCo Team! http://is.gd/t1LPFf http://is.gd/MimAUm #ubuntu #locoteams | Jul 19 15:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] @laforge Great, thanks. Such irritating behavior. | Jul 19 15:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Schmidt: Android to be Asia's mobile gateway - http://bit.ly/q3GkRl he's right; maybe #google should pull #android from US market... | Jul 19 15:47 | |
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| nj3ma | Just caught attention of Kenyan gov't ICT chief on T-word | Jul 19 15:48 |
| nj3ma | Raising concerns over access and formats vid opendata.go.ke | Jul 19 15:48 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Bilski's growing up, and smacking down some bad software patents - http://red.ht/o03kRI but rather a lot to get through... #swpats | Jul 19 15:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Church of God Sues Sony Pictures and Comcast for #Copyright Infringement - http://bit.ly/r30ooA boot meet other foot | Jul 19 15:49 | |
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| nj3ma | That is the Kenyan gov't's lame attempt at opendata | Jul 19 15:50 |
| nj3ma | Open data | Jul 19 15:50 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] http://pdfreaders.org/ now also with !freesoftware PDF reader suggestions if you deactivate java script (thanks @nicoulas) #pdfreaders | Jul 19 15:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Joshua Topolsky's new site will be called "The Verge": http://bit.ly/mXtCBy (via @techmeme) | Jul 19 15:51 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Google To Launch Verified Google+ Accounts for Celebs - http://on.mash.to/nC4add inevitable #g+ #twitter | Jul 19 15:52 | |
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| schestowitz | Pioneering emerging company and technology law firm, Gesmer Updegrove, merges with patent boutique, Gauthier & Connors, to strengthen IP law services "" | Jul 19 15:54 |
| schestowitz | why was this emailed to me? | Jul 19 15:54 |
| schestowitz | IP... | Jul 19 15:54 |
| schestowitz | LOL | Jul 19 15:54 |
| schestowitz | andy should hook up with cerf | Jul 19 15:55 |
| schestowitz | over IP | Jul 19 15:55 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/swapnilbhartiya/status/93332245972123648?iid=am-91760041513110871161974838&nid=4&uid=26603208 | Jul 19 15:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @swapnilbhartiya: #Apple Loses Patent War With #Kodak http://bit.ly/qZi0YE #swpats @schestowitz send it to mueller ;-) | Jul 19 15:55 |
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| schestowitz | he'd spin as imminent threat to Linux (Android) | Jul 19 15:56 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] I see that Banksy left a Post-it note for Anonymous #joinus | Jul 19 16:01 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAAYOae_QEs&feature=digest | Jul 19 16:03 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/swapnilbhartiya/status/93333627840118785 | Jul 19 16:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @swapnilbhartiya: @schestowitz yes. he is excellent as twisting stories. we twisted his HTC/Apple story. | Jul 19 16:03 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/qubitarkhive/status/93333586979209216 | Jul 19 16:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @qubitarkhive: @schestowitz There are over a thousand Microsoft partners of various levels including AMD with its gold partnership #conspiracy | Jul 19 16:03 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] UK copyright reform needs your #parody/#copyright tales of woe! - http://t.co/TCwGKgq help needed #hargreaves | Jul 19 16:04 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] "doing all we can to ensure staff are blameless" - yeah, destroying evidence, PR, repeating bullshit claims, dodging questions etc #NewsCorp | Jul 19 16:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] European Parliament Commissioned Study on #ACTA Released - http://bit.ly/nTCfGg bit late now...probably just a coincidence... | Jul 19 16:09 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] In case your bank goes bust right now, Deposit Protection only has you covered for KES 50.000[USD 550]. Be afraid, very afraid. | Jul 19 16:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] RT @bkuhn @copiesofcopies, StatusNet has taken VC, too. But they also took !FSF copyrighted !AGPLv3'd code inbound=outbound into the cod ... | Jul 19 16:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Ambiance To Get A Dark Toolbar, Compiz Modal Dialogs Update [Oneiric] http://ur1.ca/4qlsy | Jul 19 16:12 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] @tekk Why you're what? Bored? Hungry? | Jul 19 16:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] @fontana At least on server side I suppose a counterforce is that many want to deploy on #heroku. | Jul 19 16:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[michaelgeist/@michaelgeist] mgeist: Bell: That was last year's hearing on speed matching. If that gets revisited, it's going to end up in the c... http://ping.fm/plj9R | Jul 19 16:16 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] NHS services to be opened up to competition - http://bit.ly/q63gNc I'm sure UK gov don't want this to be overlooked today, hence this post | Jul 19 16:24 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: NHS services to be opened up to competition | Society | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 163.63 KB | Jul 19 16:24 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] WSJ's Defense Of News Of The World: Hey, It's Not Like They Published #Wikileaks Secrets - http://bit.ly/rdITHa ha! #notw | Jul 19 16:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] @fontana "a single unit of #bedbugs"? | Jul 19 16:27 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Apparently cURL can be used to call up data from SODA, the Socrata Data API. | Jul 19 16:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Anticensorship in the Internet's Infrastructure - http://bit.ly/reHUIt clever: uses #steganography to re-route connections (v @kyrah) | Jul 19 16:37 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Ach übrigens, die BILD Zeitung würde sowas wie im Hause Murdoch passiert nie zulassen. Echt. Ganz ehrlich. Indianerehrenwort </sarcasm> | Jul 19 16:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[michaelgeist/@michaelgeist] mgeist: Bell: To allow independent ISPs to offer different speeds from us at retail is offside speed matching decis... http://ping.fm/L3AV6 | Jul 19 16:39 | |
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| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/swapnilbhartiya/status/93333627840118785?iid=am-117706969213110874457204525&nid=4&uid=26603208 | Jul 19 16:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @swapnilbhartiya: @schestowitz yes. he is excellent as twisting stories. we twisted his HTC/Apple story. | Jul 19 16:43 |
| schestowitz | Florian | Jul 19 16:43 |
| MinceR | [Directed by M. Night Shyamalan] | Jul 19 16:44 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Cyndi Lauper is 58!?! #surprised #timeflies | Jul 19 16:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Apple Loses ITC Case Against Kodak - http://dthin.gs/mYhGIj this is why overall *no one* wins from #patents | Jul 19 16:49 | |
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| koolhead17 | hi all | Jul 19 16:50 |
| koolhead17 | jono, ping | Jul 19 16:50 |
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| koolhead17 | schestowitz, whats cooking? i sent you a blog via twitter | Jul 19 16:50 |
| koolhead17 | see if you think some story can be made out of it | Jul 19 16:50 |
| *koolhead17 pokes MinceR | Jul 19 16:51 | |
| *MinceR pokes koolhead17 | Jul 19 16:53 | |
| koolhead17 | how is life MinceR | Jul 19 16:53 |
| koolhead17 | seems like am missing things for a while :( | Jul 19 16:53 |
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| MinceR | it's fickle | Jul 19 16:54 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT newsbrooke Rupert: UK "more open society even than United States." - only if you buy your info. Certainly not for FOI/civic records. | Jul 19 16:57 | |
| schestowitz | Hi, koolhead17 | Jul 19 17:00 |
| schestowitz | koolhead17: yes, I got it in drafts | Jul 19 17:01 |
| schestowitz | I was going to make a story from it | Jul 19 17:01 |
| koolhead17 | schestowitz, sexy | Jul 19 17:02 |
| koolhead17 | lets rock the world | Jul 19 17:02 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] Couldn't get asterisk to use speex, even with it the #1 codec on both ekiga ends and explicit allow=speex line in sip.conf. | Jul 19 17:02 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Blender Conference 2011 registration opens http://ur1.ca/4qm10 " will take place from 28 to 30 October at the De Balie in Amsterdam." | Jul 19 17:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @harikunzru @jjn1 Dumb move by protestor. Sympathy for Murdoch when he should have none >>+1 | Jul 19 17:04 | |
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| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/79187362 | Jul 19 17:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Alexandre Oliva (lxoliva)'s status on Tuesday, 19-Jul-11 15:52:49 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz please do tell. I'm scared of even logging back in, lest they think I'm not through with them ;-) | Jul 19 17:05 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] What is the future of #STEM education in the U.S.? | http://red.ht/q4SlLs stem @lorimehen | Jul 19 17:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Google Code gains native #Git support http://ur1.ca/4qm1d "they can choose between Git, Mercurial and Subversion" | Jul 19 17:06 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: What is the future of STEM education in the U.S.? | opensource.com .::. Size~: 44.04 KB | Jul 19 17:06 |
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| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/79187442 | Jul 19 17:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Alexandre Oliva (lxoliva)'s status on Tuesday, 19-Jul-11 15:54:02 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz is there a torrent with those documents? if you set one up, I'll gladly keep a local copy and an active seeder | Jul 19 17:06 |
| schestowitz | There used to be torrents of Comes vs Microsoft. Groklaw and Techrights have it more organised, but old links 404. | Jul 19 17:06 |
| schestowitz | koolhead17: I was just writing about Gates Fundie in USENET | Jul 19 17:07 |
| schestowitz | I don't have the capacity to still keep track of it in techrights | Jul 19 17:07 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] The web service occasionally pukes chunks of json. | Jul 19 17:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @lxoliva There used to be torrents of Comes vs Microsoft. #Groklaw and !Techrights have it more organised, but old links 404. | Jul 19 17:07 | |
| koolhead17 | schestowitz, ok | Jul 19 17:08 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] LulzSec say they'll release big Murdoch email archive - http://bit.ly/o8GDgb this just gets better & better #notw | Jul 19 17:11 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[copiesofcopies/@copiesofcopies] Here's a good reason to demand FOSS licensing & auditability from government software contractors: http://ur1.ca/4qm2q | Jul 19 17:14 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Missing content type. Ignoring. | Jul 19 17:14 |
| schestowitz | you can always help us | Jul 19 17:22 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @glynmoody: LulzSec say they'll release big Murdoch email archive - http://bit.ly/o8GDgb this just gets better & better #notw | Jul 19 17:26 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] #ISDT11 streaming live at tinyurl.com/RActive 18:30 GMT. @jilliancyork talks free expression online w/ @evacide and @smarimc. | Jul 19 17:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] @nj3ma http://opendata.go.ke/ has a YSlow grade of B | Jul 19 17:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] Announcing Mozilla Enterprise User Working Group http://blog.mozilla.com/blog/2011/07/19/announing-mozilla-enterprise-user-working-group/ | Jul 19 17:31 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] @nj3ma http://opendata.go.ke/ weighs in at 550KB on the home page | Jul 19 17:34 | |
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| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/79190443 | Jul 19 17:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Danny (tekk)'s status on Tuesday, 19-Jul-11 16:34:03 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz there's always the wayback machine | Jul 19 17:40 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] CyanogenMod 7 hits 500,000 installs, eclipses previous milestone http://ur1.ca/4qm4z the free ver. of Android, because freedom/choice matter | Jul 19 17:41 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Dear Flash http://ur1.ca/4qm7z #AdobeTrash | Jul 19 17:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @tekk http://ur1.ca/4qm81 | Jul 19 17:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @tekk for PDFs too? | Jul 19 17:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] God how many "stop #spamming me" emails have I sent to LinkedIn now? | Jul 19 17:42 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Still not enjoying it when X over SSH steals focus when a new windows is created remotely. Any workaround to that? Impedes my workflow. | Jul 19 17:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Just bought a ticket to see !Dylan & !Knopfler live in October. What a nice surprise! I thought this would be a concertless year. :) | Jul 19 17:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] Training with the Linux Experts. Our new, short video with info about our #linuxtraining program: http://t.co/qcsSis4 | Jul 19 17:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #ODF Plugfest: "ODF still needs to establish itself" http://ur1.ca/4qm95 | Jul 19 17:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] @nj3ma The opendata.go.ke nairobi county page weighs in @ 355KB, scores a YSlow grade of C | Jul 19 17:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Gesmer Updegrove, merges with patent boutique, Gauthier & Connors, to strengthen IP [SIC] law services". They're not talking IP addresses. | Jul 19 17:47 | |
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| schestowitz | Impedehttps://identi.ca/notice/79191531 | Jul 19 17:52 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/79191531 | Jul 19 17:52 |
| schestowitz | Wish I knew.. | Jul 19 17:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @agentsmith's status on Tuesday, 19-Jul-11 16:49:40 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz What about Greg Kroah-Hartman ??? What happened to him after Novell's demise ??? | Jul 19 17:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @agentsmith's status on Tuesday, 19-Jul-11 16:49:40 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz What about Greg Kroah-Hartman ??? What happened to him after Novell's demise ??? | Jul 19 17:52 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Unicom launch first Wophone handset this week http://ur1.ca/4qmai "China's second cellco will debut its own Linux-based software platform" | Jul 19 17:52 | |
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| _Goblin | Hi all | Jul 19 17:54 |
| *ChanServ gives channel operator status to _Goblin | Jul 19 17:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] @tekk Ah, you've never heard me then ;) | Jul 19 17:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @zotz ok, now you're entering MS Windows virtualized on top of MacOS X territory ;-) | Jul 19 17:56 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] @tekk Probably. We're both hairy weirdos. I've never taken a public speaking class. I'm a failed comedian who got into free software :) | Jul 19 18:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Good afternoon !Identiverse | Jul 19 18:01 | |
| schestowitz | hi, _Goblin | Jul 19 18:03 |
| *koolhead17 is now known as koolhead17|away | Jul 19 18:03 | |
| _Goblin | :) | Jul 19 18:03 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 19 18:04 |
| schestowitz | <http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows7/Optimize-Windows-7-for-better-performance> | Jul 19 18:04 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Error processing the URL: HTTP/1.1 400 Bad Request | Jul 19 18:04 |
| schestowitz | This page is just too funny. | Jul 19 18:04 |
| schestowitz | <quote> | Jul 19 18:04 |
| schestowitz | No matter how fast or shiny computers might be when they're new, | Jul 19 18:04 |
| schestowitz | they all seem to get slower over time. That state-of-the-art PC | Jul 19 18:04 |
| schestowitz | you bought last year might not feel like such a screamer after | Jul 19 18:04 |
| schestowitz | you install a dozen programs, load it with antispyware and | Jul 19 18:04 |
| schestowitz | antivirus tools | Jul 19 18:04 |
| schestowitz | </quote> | Jul 19 18:04 |
| schestowitz | The good old Windows bitrot slowing down PC's. | Jul 19 18:04 |
| schestowitz | <quote> | Jul 19 18:04 |
| schestowitz | Defragment your hard disk | Jul 19 18:04 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Linus Torvalds delays Linux 3.0 launch due to a subtle bug http://ur1.ca/4qmda #linux #development #gpl | Jul 19 18:04 | |
| schestowitz | Fragmentation makes your hard disk do extra work that can slow | Jul 19 18:04 |
| schestowitz | down your computer. Disk Defragmenter rearranges fragmented data | Jul 19 18:04 |
| schestowitz | so your hard disk can work more efficiently. Disk Defragmenter | Jul 19 18:04 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Linus torvalds delays linux 3.0 launch due to a subtle bug- The Inquirer .::. Size~: 63.4 KB | Jul 19 18:04 |
| schestowitz | runs on a schedule, but you can also defragment your hard disk | Jul 19 18:04 |
| schestowitz | manually. | Jul 19 18:04 |
| schestowitz | </quote> | Jul 19 18:04 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 19 18:04 |
| schestowitz | :-) | Jul 19 18:04 |
| _Goblin | There's one thing you can do simply to enable Windows 7 for better performance.... | Jul 19 18:04 |
| _Goblin | its quite simple really | Jul 19 18:04 |
| _Goblin | install linux and wipe that Windows nonsense off your machine. | Jul 19 18:04 |
| _Goblin | I did... | Jul 19 18:04 |
| _Goblin | my latest machine (as you know) came pre-loaded with Win7....never even booted it.....first boot was off a livecd and Sabayon was on there. | Jul 19 18:05 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] VirtualBox 4.1 released http://lwn.net/Articles/452148/rss | Jul 19 18:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Been thinking of migrating my blog to http://moshe.nairo.biz | Jul 19 18:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] regardless of where the idea originated, public speaking class is a good idea ... also a group called Toastmasters can help too @tekk | Jul 19 18:06 | |
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| _Goblin | sorry | Jul 19 18:06 |
| cubezzz | booooo | Jul 19 18:06 |
| _Goblin | can I correct a poorly worded sentence..... | Jul 19 18:06 |
| _Goblin | can I replace "pre-loaded" with "stuffed" | Jul 19 18:07 |
| cubezzz | ok, I guess we'll let that go since you didn't inhale/boot | Jul 19 18:07 |
| _Goblin | pre-loaded suggests a level of acceptability......... | Jul 19 18:07 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] no worries, that's fine @lstench ... that's one of the nice things about this type of communication... can do it when you can | Jul 19 18:07 | |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/79191941 | Jul 19 18:09 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @agentsmith's status on Tuesday, 19-Jul-11 16:55:17 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz If memory serves me well, he was in charge of the M$'s Linux drives farce at Novell. Not that he liked it, he spoke... | Jul 19 18:09 |
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| schestowitz | Microsoft neglected its own drivers, expecting others to do its own work (maybe that's what Microsoft pays Novell for) | Jul 19 18:10 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/79191996 | Jul 19 18:10 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @agentsmith's status on Tuesday, 19-Jul-11 16:56:01 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz ... harsh words about the work he was doing with M$'s commits to the main line kernel | Jul 19 18:10 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "linux bug would be a microsoft feature. [..] Microsoft would have released their kernel OS even it had a thousand bugs" http://ur1.ca/4qmej | Jul 19 18:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk if not now, maybe later; my son did one and found it very helpful. Throughout your life, no matter *what* you do, will come in handy | Jul 19 18:11 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Post by Linus Torvalds .::. Size~: 326.57 KB | Jul 19 18:11 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/79193104 | Jul 19 18:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Alexandre Oliva (lxoliva)'s status on Tuesday, 19-Jul-11 17:10:32 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz EEEK! where does it say so? | Jul 19 18:11 |
| schestowitz | re "@gryps75 It says it in their site. Maybe DuckDuckGo was not a Microsoft front end historically, but they are now." | Jul 19 18:11 |
| schestowitz | It's at the bottom of all SERPs | Jul 19 18:11 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @lxoliva It's at the bottom of all SERPs | Jul 19 18:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Live streaming from #ISDT11 begins at 18:30 GMT at https://eff.org/r.48G! | Jul 19 18:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] @nj3ma It is damn hard [ maybe impossible? ] to access raw data on http://opendata.go.ke, shows squat sans Javascript | Jul 19 18:14 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] #Google Plus’s Real Goal is Not to Kill #Facebook, but to Force it to Open (Marshall Kirkpatrick) | http://bit.ly/pfWu7W | Jul 19 18:16 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Toyota’s open road http://ur1.ca/4qmfv "join a nonprofit consortium [...] it makes business sense." #linux #toyota | Jul 19 18:17 | |
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| schestowitz | LOL Toyota | Jul 19 18:18 |
| schestowitz | And this... http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20110719PR200.html | Jul 19 18:18 |
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| schestowitz | Microsoft Windows dos not support ARMN | Jul 19 18:18 |
| schestowitz | Yet this vapourware article mentioned Windows as ARM catalyst | Jul 19 18:18 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @kirschner: Richard Stallman: "Resist the Temptations of the Cloud!" on #spiegel http://ur1.ca/4qkpw (EN) http://ur1.ca/4qkpz (DE) | Jul 19 18:19 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Oracle VirtualBox 4.1 released (Network World): http://bit.ly/r0lhKG | Jul 19 18:22 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] CCIA: Fair Use Makes Valuable Contribution to US Economy - http://bit.ly/oXaD1p important point, often overlooked | Jul 19 18:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @glynmoody: #Apple Loses ITC Case Against #Kodak - http://dthin.gs/mYhGIj this is why overall *no one* wins from #patents @RamanusAsango | Jul 19 18:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @eff just clicked your live streaming page and got a "page not found" error | Jul 19 18:26 | |
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| schestowitz | http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20110719PR200.html | Jul 19 18:26 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: ARM to have big slice of notebook market in 2015, says IHS .::. Size~: 77.98 KB | Jul 19 18:26 |
| schestowitz | Doesn't seem to But they carry the bad reputation of the mono name. | Jul 19 18:27 |
| _Goblin | lol...this is an interesting article: | Jul 19 18:27 |
| _Goblin | http://www.tuxradar.com/content/open-ballot-it-time-start-trusting-microsoft | Jul 19 18:27 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft kernel PR now.. | Jul 19 18:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Open Ballot: Is it time to start trusting Microsoft? | TuxRadar Linux .::. Size~: 36.47 KB | Jul 19 18:27 |
| schestowitz | They pretend to 'play along' with Linux | Jul 19 18:28 |
| schestowitz | While actually extorting it | Jul 19 18:28 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/79193633 | Jul 19 18:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @agentsmith's status on Tuesday, 19-Jul-11 17:17:58 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Yup, I remember it. | Jul 19 18:28 |
| schestowitz | PR PR.. | Jul 19 18:28 |
| _Goblin | its failing though. | Jul 19 18:28 |
| _Goblin | take the average user...try and find someone with a good word about Microsoft. | Jul 19 18:28 |
| schestowitz | yeah | Jul 19 18:28 |
| schestowitz | But.. | Jul 19 18:28 |
| schestowitz | some journos are biting | Jul 19 18:28 |
| _Goblin | oh, except for Doc Pizza here. | Jul 19 18:28 |
| schestowitz | SJVN even admitted this to me | Jul 19 18:28 |
| schestowitz | Trusting... LOL | Jul 19 18:29 |
| schestowitz | Yeah | Jul 19 18:29 |
| schestowitz | !gogle linux infringes Microsoft | Jul 19 18:29 |
| schestowitz | !ogogle linux infringes Microsoft | Jul 19 18:29 |
| _Goblin | but average masses are what drives the market in much of its catelogue......find a mainstream user who likes microsoft. | Jul 19 18:29 |
| schestowitz | !google linux infringes Microsoft | Jul 19 18:29 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @nj3ma The biggest thing I miss with my self hosted blogs is the wordpress com stats. There are others available, but they are different. | Jul 19 18:29 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Microsoft claims software like Linux violates its patents - May 28 ... | http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune_archive/2007/05/28/100033867/ | Jul 19 18:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - What if Linux does infringe on Microsoft intellectual property ... | http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/what-if-linux-does-infringe-on-microsoft-intellectual-property/161 | Jul 19 18:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Linux Patents: Software Updates Infringe on Microsoft Patents. | http://linuxpatents.blogspot.com/2011/01/software-updates-infringe-on-microsoft.html | Jul 19 18:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Linux infringes Microsoft patents, claims Ballmer - Techworld.com | http://news.techworld.com/operating-systems/7376/linux-infringes-microsoft-patents-claims-ballmer/ | Jul 19 18:29 |
| _Goblin | thats why the MVP program exists..... | Jul 19 18:29 |
| schestowitz | yeah | Jul 19 18:29 |
| schestowitz | PR? | Jul 19 18:29 |
| _Goblin | you don't think people would rave about MS for nothing. | Jul 19 18:29 |
| schestowitz | it's an extortion operation | Jul 19 18:29 |
| schestowitz | Who can possibly rave about it? | Jul 19 18:29 |
| _Goblin | I'd say its more bribery | Jul 19 18:29 |
| schestowitz | Well, to be fair, some people romanticise over the mafia too | Jul 19 18:30 |
| schestowitz | Like the Rat Pack | Jul 19 18:30 |
| _Goblin | "Here have a trophy, be an MVP"...."just keep saying great things about Microsoft" | Jul 19 18:30 |
| schestowitz | yeah | Jul 19 18:30 |
| schestowitz | DrPizza might get one | Jul 19 18:30 |
| DrPizza | hurrr | Jul 19 18:30 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Join me for my tutorial session on how to create an Ubuntu LoCo Team in 30mins - for how to join see http://is.gd/MimAUm #ubuntu #locoteams | Jul 19 18:31 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: UbuntuCommunityWeek - Ubuntu Wiki .::. Size~: 34.97 KB | Jul 19 18:31 |
| _Goblin | its funny how Linux advocates rave about Linux without gifts or prizes | Jul 19 18:31 |
| _Goblin | I wonder why we do it? | Jul 19 18:31 |
| _Goblin | for the Microsoft advocate the idea of raving about something without reward must seem pretty alien..... | Jul 19 18:31 |
| _Goblin | even stupid | Jul 19 18:32 |
| _Goblin | Microsoft MVP - "whats in it for me?" | Jul 19 18:32 |
| DrPizza | _Goblin: Because you're desperate to convince yourself that you made a reasonable decision? | Jul 19 18:32 |
| schestowitz | we acually make an unreasonable decision | Jul 19 18:34 |
| schestowitz | No bribes in promoting Linux | Jul 19 18:34 |
| schestowitz | "The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man." | Jul 19 18:35 |
| schestowitz | ~George Bernard Shaw | Jul 19 18:35 |
| Snit | schestowitz: did you ever think of an example of where my iMac is somehow "user hostile". I am still curious about that. | Jul 19 18:36 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Wall Street’s Euthanasia of Industry http://ur1.ca/4qmkm worthy piece | Jul 19 18:37 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Wall Street’s Euthanasia of Industry | Michael Hudson .::. Size~: 97.86 KB | Jul 19 18:37 |
| Snit | Goblin: I often see the claim that people who see flaws with the status quo of Linux desktop, such as myself, must be getting paid by MS | Jul 19 18:37 |
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| _Goblin | DrPizza: You could argue that...but then why after being presented with Windows 7 (as pre-loaded) on my new machine, do I choose to Install Linux? Do you think that I would hobble myself on a tech level intentionally? For what reason? I chose Linux because its a better OS. | Jul 19 18:39 |
| DrPizza | Because you're a glutton for punishment? | Jul 19 18:39 |
| Snit | I say use what you like. | Jul 19 18:39 |
| _Goblin | DrPizza: so why do I praise apple products? | Jul 19 18:40 |
| DrPizza | Because you're a hypocrite? | Jul 19 18:40 |
| _Goblin | DrPizza: Youre supposed to be the professional tech writer here, yet I am more techno diverse than you are. | Jul 19 18:40 |
| DrPizza | Huh? | Jul 19 18:40 |
| Snit | Curious, though, what about it do you see as "better". I use OS X as my main OS… and sometimes Windows because there are things that serve me better there. But rarely Linux. I am often looking for the "killer app" and the like to pull me there more. Would help me to learn it better. | Jul 19 18:40 |
| _Goblin | DrPizza: or because I celebrate any decent platform/software | Jul 19 18:40 |
| DrPizza | ???? | Jul 19 18:41 |
| Snit | Goblin: I praise Apple products because they serve my needs better than any other tool. I have posted examples in COLA, but I can repeat them here is you like. | Jul 19 18:41 |
| _Goblin | DrPizza: don't start this. | Jul 19 18:41 |
| _Goblin | DrPizza: I chose products which I find best for me...be it foss proprietary or anything else | Jul 19 18:41 |
| DrPizza | How are you more "diverse" than me? | Jul 19 18:41 |
| Snit | I do appreciate some things about Linux: repositories, for example | Jul 19 18:41 |
| Snit | I think those are, mostly, great. | Jul 19 18:41 |
| _Goblin | DrPizza: well, I use Linux, Apple products, Microsoft products (at work)...that gives me quite a spectrum of choice.... | Jul 19 18:42 |
| _Goblin | DrPizza: for my own personal tech choices. | Jul 19 18:42 |
| DrPizza | And I don't? | Jul 19 18:42 |
| DrPizza | News to me. | Jul 19 18:42 |
| Snit | Goblin: exactly - that is what I do. I use many items - get more choice than any one environment could offer me. | Jul 19 18:42 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @lstench What's this? #Reddit Co-Founder Charged with Data Theft - NYTimes.com http://ur1.ca/4qmi3 | Jul 19 18:42 | |
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| Snit | And still stick to one environment mostly - one that is well designed to boost productivity and reduce errors. | Jul 19 18:42 |
| _Goblin | DrPizza: No I don't believe you do....after yesterdays efforts I don't believe you are prepared to give anything but Microsoft related products a chance....thats my opinion. | Jul 19 18:43 |
| DrPizza | ummm | Jul 19 18:43 |
| DrPizza | yeah... | Jul 19 18:43 |
| _Goblin | DrPizza: people can look back at the logs for yesterday....I'll be bringing them up again shortly. | Jul 19 18:43 |
| _Goblin | DrPizza: I also, with all due respect think you are a very bad example of what is supposed to pass for professional tech journalism. | Jul 19 18:44 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @AndroidPolice: Schmidt To Apple: Stop Litigating And Start Innovating http://bit.ly/nG6h1J cc @RamanusAsango | Jul 19 18:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @nj3ma One of the great things about self hosting is that you know where your data is and who has access to it. :) | Jul 19 18:44 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Schmidt To Apple: Stop Litigating And Start Innovating .::. Size~: 117.57 KB | Jul 19 18:44 |
| DrPizza | _Goblin: lol, I'll take that under advisement. | Jul 19 18:44 |
| Snit | Ok, I speak highly of virtualization - but my XP VM is being wonky - works fine, but I cannot shrink the virtual hard disk. It is huge right now. | Jul 19 18:44 |
| _Goblin | DrPizza: You don't need to take it anyway....its only my opinion | Jul 19 18:44 |
| DrPizza | Linux lunix.quiscalusmexicanus.org 2.6.35-23-virtual #41-Ubuntu SMP Wed Nov 24 12:29:11 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux | Jul 19 18:45 |
| DrPizza | hm | Jul 19 18:45 |
| DrPizza | sure looks like linux to me | Jul 19 18:45 |
| Snit | schestowitz and Goblin: all three of us are here. Do we want to start looking at dates / times? | Jul 19 18:46 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Green and Gold Open Access? Libre and Gratis. Reasins why readers and re-users matter - http://bit.ly/qD9btc important points #oa | Jul 19 18:46 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Unilever Centre for Molecular Informatics, Cambridge - Green and Gold Open Access? Libre and Gratis. Reasins why readers and re-users matter « petermr's blog .::. Size~: 29.31 KB | Jul 19 18:46 |
| _Goblin | yes... | Jul 19 18:46 |
| _Goblin | good idea... | Jul 19 18:46 |
| _Goblin | I propose Sunday. | Jul 19 18:46 |
| _Goblin | I'm off for four days starting sunday so can manage any time after 2pm | Jul 19 18:46 |
| Snit | I am tied up in the afternoon - but evening or morning would work | Jul 19 18:46 |
| _Goblin | right....monday then (morning if off limits on sunday) | Jul 19 18:47 |
| Snit | I am tied up until 3 PM (my time - current time is about 10:45) | Jul 19 18:47 |
| _Goblin | *is not if | Jul 19 18:47 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @glynmoody Green and Gold Open Access? Libre and Gratis. Reasins why readers and re-users matter - http://bit.ly/qD9btc important poi ... | Jul 19 18:47 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Unilever Centre for Molecular Informatics, Cambridge - Green and Gold Open Access? Libre and Gratis. Reasins why readers and re-users matter « petermr's blog .::. Size~: 29.31 KB | Jul 19 18:47 |
| Snit | Starting Monday things are insane for me for the week… so has to be Sunday or we need to wait a week | Jul 19 18:47 |
| Snit | But Sun evening works fine for me | Jul 19 18:48 |
| _Goblin | cool..... | Jul 19 18:48 |
| _Goblin | what time? | Jul 19 18:48 |
| Snit | Say 5:00 or past. I am speaking my time. What time is it for you right now? | Jul 19 18:48 |
| _Goblin | 1848 | Jul 19 18:48 |
| Snit | Whoops: BRB | Jul 19 18:48 |
| _Goblin | np | Jul 19 18:48 |
| Snit | Ok, back | Jul 19 18:49 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[copiesofcopies/@copiesofcopies] RT @mairin @opensourceway pretty sure its real goal is actually to find out who my friends are and display ads to me related to their in ... | Jul 19 18:49 | |
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| Snit | So we are 8 hours different. So my 5:00 (1700) is your 1 the next morning. | Jul 19 18:50 |
| Snit | Yikes… is that too late for you? | Jul 19 18:50 |
| _Goblin | probably..... | Jul 19 18:50 |
| _Goblin | although..... | Jul 19 18:50 |
| _Goblin | provisionally I'd say yes. | Jul 19 18:50 |
| Snit | Wait: but I can do that morning | Jul 19 18:50 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Good article: "Just how much’s a Shuttleworth? : Notes on communitizing the community" by @nj3ma | Jul 19 18:51 | |
| Snit | Say 9 my time - 5:00 your time (1700) | Jul 19 18:51 |
| _Goblin | lol...thats true....I was thinking everyone's in UK time | Jul 19 18:51 |
| _Goblin | that will be ok | Jul 19 18:51 |
| Snit | Roy: how does that work for you? | Jul 19 18:51 |
| _Goblin | schestowitz: Please see above ^^^^^ | Jul 19 18:51 |
| _Goblin | in the meantime, if you see me on skype, please feel free to call. | Jul 19 18:52 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Announcing #Mozilla #Enterprise User Working Group - http://bit.ly/nSFY1I a wise & politic move | Jul 19 18:52 | |
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| Snit | Ditto here… just turned it on (had to reboot today and did not turn it back on) | Jul 19 18:52 |
| Snit | schestowitz: are you there? | Jul 19 18:53 |
| _Goblin | Snit: I'll try not to "grill" you.....although I'd expect you can give as good as you get...... I hope though you heed my warning......Disagree that Tom Baker was the best Doctor and prepare to be shot down in flames! :) | Jul 19 18:53 |
| Snit | Fair enough. | Jul 19 18:53 |
| _Goblin | I'm a complete Dr Who nerd.... I know everything.... | Jul 19 18:54 |
| _Goblin | ;) | Jul 19 18:54 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] VirtualBox 4.1 Released With GUI Option To Clone VMs, More http://ur1.ca/4qmne | Jul 19 18:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Join me in a few mins for my tutorial on creating an Ubuntu LoCo Team - join at http://is.gd/oeTz8O #ubuntu #locoteams | Jul 19 18:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] greetings @richslxh ... I am curious... what was your temperature there today? | Jul 19 18:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Google Android + Sony Tablet and Ericsson Could Crush Apple iOS http://ur1.ca/4qmnj "Android grew rapidly with over 4.5 billion." | Jul 19 18:54 | |
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| Snit | And, hey, "tough" questions are fair - feel free to "grill" me that way. I do not mind that - there or in COLA. I do not like the name calling and unsupported accusations of COLA - but you tend not to do that. | Jul 19 18:54 |
| Snit | Pretty much what you know of me is from my comments in COLA - so to ask me about such comments is completely fair. | Jul 19 18:55 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Again, Using Industry's Own Methodology Shows That #Copyright Exceptions Contribute More To Economy Than Copyright - http://bit.ly/nGKEXL | Jul 19 18:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Good article: "Just how much’s a Shuttleworth? : Notes on communitizing the community" by @nj3ma http://ur1.ca/4qmnz < with link this time | Jul 19 18:56 | |
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| Snit | Seems schestowitz is not responding right now… if you can talk to him I would love to have him on the show, too. I have some questions for him (such as about what he means by "user hostile") | Jul 19 18:56 |
| DrPizza | glwt. | Jul 19 18:57 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Tuesday's security updates http://lwn.net/Articles/452124/rss | Jul 19 18:57 | |
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| cubezzz | what show is that? | Jul 19 18:57 |
| Snit | He seems hesitant, at best… but he could just be real busy. | Jul 19 18:57 |
| DrPizza | Trolls Weekly. | Jul 19 18:58 |
| Snit | TechBytes | Jul 19 18:58 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @nj3ma it is a good article :) | Jul 19 18:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] yes, @schestowitz :) | Jul 19 18:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #IBM donates open source code http://ur1.ca/4qmoo practical benefits, not a "Goodwill" thing (investors don't operate on ethics) #odf | Jul 19 18:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] @eebrah Also, Apple lost patent war with Kodak. This innovation business isn't what it used to be. | Jul 19 18:59 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Jul 19 18:59 |
| Snit | Whoops… need to run for a bit | Jul 19 19:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Chilly evening. | Jul 19 19:01 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The #Microsoft "we're open source" PR blitz is back, amid anti-Linux lawsuits. (ex. http://ur1.ca/4qmpb http://ur1.ca/4qmpe and kernel lies) | Jul 19 19:02 | |
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| schestowitz | [18:46] <_Goblin> I'm off for four days starting sunday so can manage any time after 2pm | Jul 19 19:10 |
| schestowitz | I can do today | Jul 19 19:10 |
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| cubezzz | huh, tech stocks went up again | Jul 19 19:12 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @mathewi Demand Progress has released a statement about the indictment of co-founder Aaron Swartz for data theft: http://t.co/xZJm7Mn | Jul 19 19:12 | |
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| cubezzz | ah, the US debt talks must have been resolved | Jul 19 19:13 |
| schestowitz | :-) | Jul 19 19:13 |
| schestowitz | the debt vanished | Jul 19 19:13 |
| schestowitz | they had a meeting | Jul 19 19:13 |
| schestowitz | China's businesspeople | Jul 19 19:14 |
| schestowitz | And they said, give us all your housing | Jul 19 19:14 |
| schestowitz | 50 trillion worth.. | Jul 19 19:14 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Reddit co-founder charged with legally reading too much http://ur1.ca/4qmrl http://ur1.ca/4qmi3 | Jul 19 19:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The #Unix revolution—thank you, Uncle Sam? http://ur1.ca/4qknx | Jul 19 19:14 | |
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| schestowitz | dbt resooved | Jul 19 19:14 |
| cubezzz | they are talking a 3.7 trillion cut to the US debt | Jul 19 19:14 |
| schestowitz | Now the north Americans need to work hard and maybe buy a house one day | Jul 19 19:14 |
| schestowitz | Not rent from china | Jul 19 19:15 |
| schestowitz | cubezzz: URL? | Jul 19 19:15 |
| cubezzz | just go to cnn.com it should still be on the front page | Jul 19 19:15 |
| schestowitz | the debt keeps gfrowing in the US | Jul 19 19:15 |
| schestowitz | They pretend to do something about it | Jul 19 19:15 |
| schestowitz | But it's not quite happening | Jul 19 19:15 |
| schestowitz | CNN LOL | Jul 19 19:15 |
| schestowitz | The Fox os the centrists | Jul 19 19:15 |
| schestowitz | Or DrPizza's blog | Jul 19 19:16 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Protester "hacks" Ruper Murdoch with pie against lies http://ur1.ca/4qmrv | Jul 19 19:16 | |
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| cubezzz | the Fox os? :) | Jul 19 19:16 |
| schestowitz | CNN did a number of wikileaks | Jul 19 19:16 |
| cubezzz | is this some new diabolical operating system? :) | Jul 19 19:16 |
| schestowitz | It's all just controlled not by interests of the audience | Jul 19 19:16 |
| schestowitz | But by interests behind the scenes | Jul 19 19:16 |
| schestowitz | Ahte secret is convincing the public that their interests are actually those that are really against them | Jul 19 19:16 |
| schestowitz | e.g. re climate | Jul 19 19:16 |
| schestowitz | or that Apple is good for us all | Jul 19 19:16 |
| cubezzz | schestowitz, even so, it's good news for tech stocks | Jul 19 19:17 |
| cubezzz | including Red Hat | Jul 19 19:17 |
| Snit | schestowitz: you are back! | Jul 19 19:17 |
| Snit | Did you see the times Goblin and I were discussing? | Jul 19 19:17 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Mozilla is changing - http://bit.ly/pYtARi "change is taking place because it has to" #firefox | Jul 19 19:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Anonymous To Release Sun, News of the World Emails http://ur1.ca/4qmss | Jul 19 19:17 | |
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| Snit | schestowitz: Apple and their products are not the right fit for everyone… but they are excellent for many. | Jul 19 19:18 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Rupert Murdoch claims he isn't a fucking terrorist during hearing http://ur1.ca/4qmsy | Jul 19 19:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Kenya gives millers the nod to import #GM maize - http://bit.ly/qEbP2G its cautious approach won't work: contamination is inevitable... | Jul 19 19:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @laurelrusswurm: excellent article by @robmyers Why ND Is Neither Necessary Nor Sufficient To Prevent Misrepresentation http://ur1.ca/n0bf | Jul 19 19:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Wikipedia list of assets owned by News Corp, "gigantic pile of bullshit" mysteriously absent http://ur1.ca/4qmt7 | Jul 19 19:19 | |
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| Snit | Did you see the report that came out today that Win Phone 7 is getting higher user satisfaction ratings than is Android? | Jul 19 19:19 |
| Snit | <http://www.networkworld.com/news/2011/071811-smartphone-preferences.html> OR <http://goo.gl/YtCAL> | Jul 19 19:19 |
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| Snit | Not found my ass! | Jul 19 19:20 |
| cubezzz | maybe the < > messes it up | Jul 19 19:20 |
| Snit | http://www.networkworld.com/slideshows/2009/060309-apple-quiz.html's iOS-based https://www.networkworld.com/slideshows/2010/120101-iphone-quiz.html continues to be the preferred smartphone for nearly 50% of consumers, with http://www.networkworld.com/news/2010/110910-google-android-useful-resources-smartphones.html the top choice for about one-third of them. The real surprise is evidence that http://www.networkworld.com/subnets/microsoft/' | Jul 19 19:20 |
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| cubezzz | http://goo.gl/YtCAL | Jul 19 19:20 |
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| Snit | That bot is rather annoying | Jul 19 19:20 |
| Snit | I wonder if I can get my old AIM bot to work here. :) | Jul 19 19:21 |
| Snit | Hey, Bot - I already said that! | Jul 19 19:21 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] RT @1111aether @lithpr Just caught your open letter to Jonathan Nadeau. What a horrid, narci...wait..Sorry, who are you again? | Jul 19 19:22 | |
| _Goblin | snit: I think Roy has said he can do today, unfortunately Im off and on the machine since I've other tasks to attend to.....I'm sure Sunday won't pose a problem. | Jul 19 19:22 |
| _Goblin | 1700 is great for me... | Jul 19 19:23 |
| _Goblin | and Roy is rather flexable. | Jul 19 19:23 |
| _Goblin | ible. | Jul 19 19:23 |
| Snit | Still, would be good to hear from him. | Jul 19 19:24 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Sky News (aka Rupert Murdoch) blames Louise Boat... wait, what the fuck is a Louise Boat? http://ur1.ca/4qmtw | Jul 19 19:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] cool! got a download link so I can watch it off-line on my TV? | Jul 19 19:24 | |
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| Snit | I added it to my calendar though… | Jul 19 19:24 |
| Snit | Doing it through Skype… right? | Jul 19 19:24 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Belgian Newspapers 'Give Permission' To #Google To Return Them To Search Results - http://bit.ly/o6GReO *Q.E.D.* | Jul 19 19:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @Develop4AppUp: From funding to launch, #AppUpElements 2011 Track 3 teaches you how to monetize your app and ge... http://intel.ly/pwUI7S | Jul 19 19:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @rgunjan: July Update from #AppUp developer program: Power Management, Code Signing, & Tablet Best Practices http://t.co/jHWLiqb | Jul 19 19:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] RT @laurelrusswurm RT @lstench What's this? #Reddit Co-Founder Charged with Data Theft - NYTimes.com http://ur1.ca/4qmi3 | Jul 19 19:26 | |
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| schestowitz | _Goblin: need to finish before 6 | Jul 19 19:26 |
| schestowitz | on sunday | Jul 19 19:26 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @rgunjan: Car apps:opportunities in big data, use of location, video, parking, road pricing and new ways of approa... http://t.co/o5ERlPf | Jul 19 19:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @alextootchie: Flare Elite: an action packed space shoot'em up game #OviStore #N900 #Maemo http://t.co/dmINlzF | Jul 19 19:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @ju_key: Somebody willing to show an initial development setup (#Qt Creator+Madde / Scratchbox+#Harmattan SDK @... Contact @ju_key Pls RT | Jul 19 19:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @ju_key: Looking for developer support at Berlin this Friday: http://t.co/bg5ZTVN #N950club #n9 #meego #harmattan #nokia #qt #b... Pls RT | Jul 19 19:27 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] RT @laurelrusswurm What an excellent article by @robmyers "Why ND Is Neither Necessary Nor Sufficient To Prevent Misrepresentation" http ... | Jul 19 19:29 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Lawyer Trying To Trademark Bitcoin Threatens Techdirt With Bogus DMCA Takedown - http://bit.ly/qKze9U this deserves wider circulation | Jul 19 19:31 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] News of the World whistleblower found dead http://ur1.ca/4qmvn | Jul 19 19:34 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Hainan carrier weighs European presence - http://bit.ly/oEZCsz wow, another straw in the wind (v @ChinaBizWatch) #china | Jul 19 19:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @glynmoody: Lawyer Trying 2 Trademark Bitcoin Threatens Techdirt w/ Bogus DMCA Takedown http://bit.ly/qKze9U deserves wider circulation | Jul 19 19:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] ISP Refuses To Block the Pirate Bay http://ur1.ca/4qmw9 | Jul 19 19:36 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @glynmoody: Lawyer Trying To Trademark Bitcoin Threatens Techdirt With Bogus DMCA Takedown - http://bit.ly/qKze9U | Jul 19 19:37 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Bill seeks to decriminalise pianos in pubs and schools - http://bit.ly/opWnyf this Labour nitwittery should have been repealed ages ago | Jul 19 19:44 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fedora/@fedora] Seen the !Fedora 15 release video? FPL Jared Smith and others talk about cool features in the release here: http://ur1.ca/4qmyc | Jul 19 19:49 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @asymco 50 million new Android users last quarter. | Jul 19 19:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @glynmoody: Lawyer Trying To Trademark Bitcoin Threatens Techdirt With Bogus DMCA Takedown - http://bit.ly/qKze9U | Jul 19 19:51 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @alanbell_libsol next #odfplugfest in Gouda, Netherlands | Jul 19 19:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @JPBarlow: It's "far too dangerous to do business" in the US because of the risk of software patent lawsuits. is.gd/ksAqwg #swpat | Jul 19 19:54 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @mala are the prosecutors planning go after everyone who has hacked at MIT? I understand there's quite a backlog of issues.>>ha! | Jul 19 19:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @IrvTheSwirv quite glad I've pulled out of the US now. It's dangerous doing business there. | Jul 19 19:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @IrvTheSwirv Selling software in the US has already reached the non-viable tipping point /// #swpats | Jul 19 19:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @zoobab ♺ @simonmaddox @nikf wow, that's an insane patent too. "communication system for communicating with like-minded users" | Jul 19 19:56 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @BrianDunning: Finally got around to public enemy #1 on Skeptoid's Wacko of the Week: http://tinyurl.com/3bo9mz2 | Jul 19 20:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @zoobab "Only large companies and publishers can bear these costs" ur1.ca/4p8sm //// #swpats | Jul 19 20:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] So while others discover Google +, I discover IRC. | Jul 19 20:01 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] RT @glynmoody #Kenya gives millers the nod to import #GM maize - http://bit.ly/qEbP2G its cautious approach won't work: contamination is ... | Jul 19 20:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @zoobab @h_ingo The total ban of smaprtphones in the US would be an awesome booster for getting rid of swpats. | Jul 19 20:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @normnz Here is one of the less enlightening articles in support of s/w patents. Misleading from start to finish http://ur1.ca/4pxx1 | Jul 19 20:02 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The East African: - News |Kenya gives millers the nod to import GM maize .::. Size~: 33.63 KB | Jul 19 20:02 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @pranesh_prakash India should sell our lack of #swpats as...advantage:"Develop software here, we're don't have a screwed up patent system" | Jul 19 20:04 | |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/92956020820815872 | Jul 19 20:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @FOSSpatents: @polerin It's the same intellectual property regime that allowed Google to build its huge company on a patent. | Jul 19 20:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Apparently I had inadvertently disabled the refresh after post option. | Jul 19 20:06 | |
| schestowitz | LOL what a disgusting liar | Jul 19 20:06 |
| schestowitz | Like GOogle was threatening to sue company over the idea of counting links (Standford patent) | Jul 19 20:06 |
| schestowitz | *Stanford) | Jul 19 20:06 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft Florian tries tom portray Google as a patent aggressor | Jul 19 20:07 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/93006391136100352 | Jul 19 20:07 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @FOSSpatents: @IAM_magazine I know there was something like that in the announcement. But Apple already has a license to all IV patents, can't be sued. | Jul 19 20:07 |
| schestowitz | Pat of the cartel | Jul 19 20:07 |
| schestowitz | ?* | Jul 19 20:07 |
| schestowitz | *part | Jul 19 20:07 |
| schestowitz | And yet he fails to mention this to hypePhone devs like Techrights did.. | Jul 19 20:08 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @WLLegal: More re: hacking charges against @reddit co-founder Aaron Swartz, from the indictment /via @amberlymellow http://ur1.ca/4qn0w | Jul 19 20:09 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Mississippi runoff expands Gulf 'dead zone' - http://bit.ly/qzVKdP bad & getting worse #environment | Jul 19 20:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @rcweir Brazilian Government's Free Software Implementation Committee commits to contribute to Apache OpenOffice http://bit.ly/pxMoYx | Jul 19 20:11 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] although I wish people would start using the word "CRACKING" instead of Hacking (Hollywood has *so much* to answer for) / cc @WLLegal | Jul 19 20:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] Every Six Weeks http://blog.mozilla.com/futurereleases/2011/07/19/every-six-weeks/ | Jul 19 20:16 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @cer I'm going to update Mark Twain: Lies, Damn Lies, and The Murdochs. #NOTW | Jul 19 20:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Baidu will Browser- und Musikmarkt erobern - http://bit.ly/nO5KX0 anyone know what #Baidu's #browser is based on (if anything)? | Jul 19 20:21 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] RT @laurelrusswurm What an excellent article by @robmyers "Why ND Is Neither Necessary Nor Sufficient To Prevent Misrepresentation" http ... | Jul 19 20:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] #startups #swwaw #pitch http://abstrusegoose.com/380 /cc @zstanska @michuk @mpaluchowski @anwajler @krzysiekw @kkowalcz | Jul 19 20:22 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[copiesofcopies/@copiesofcopies] Yes the important thing is who founded Reddit: https://plus.google.com/113164038788726940319/posts/9NUWmu2c9pq | Jul 19 20:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Frankreichs verzweifelter Kampf gegen das grüne Gift - http://bit.ly/p8zHjs #sarkozy says even more stupid things #france | Jul 19 20:26 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #baidu #browser uses webkit - http://bit.ly/p8ez7r more info (v @dozykraut) #china | Jul 19 20:31 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Police Admit Deceiving Protesters As Charges Dropped - http://bit.ly/p5cisW more resignations clearly called for, I think... #uk #lies | Jul 19 20:39 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #IPRED: „Deutschland lehnt die Einführung von Internetsperren ab“- http://bit.ly/reBqHm #france continues to play the villain #censorship | Jul 19 20:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is psquid with 72 dents! | Jul 19 20:42 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Google Helps Italians to Unblock Their Favorite Torrent Site - http://bit.ly/pRlDAk whack-a-mole much? #italy | Jul 19 20:46 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] After Watching This Video, Can Anyone Say That #Remix Isn't An Act Of A Musician? - http://bit.ly/qbiqA5 amazing stuff | Jul 19 20:49 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: After Watching This Video, Can Anyone Say That Remix Isn't An Act Of A Musician? | Techdirt .::. Size~: 34.26 KB | Jul 19 20:49 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Hungary destroys all GMO maize fields http://b1t.it/scd | Jul 19 20:51 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @stickster: Seen the #Fedora 15 release video? FPL Jared Smith and others talk about cool features in the release here http://ur1.ca/4qmyc | Jul 19 20:52 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] DuckDuckGo: Another Front End to Microsoft for Some Queries http://ur1.ca/4qn8m #DuckDuckGo #google #microsoft #yahoo | Jul 19 20:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] DuckDuckGo: Another Front End to Microsoft for Some Queries http://ur1.ca/4qn8m #search #thinktank #monopoly #opensource | Jul 19 20:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @kete: @bkuhn I love viewing PDFs in !Emacs #docview | Jul 19 20:54 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] You can not be paranoid enough about Monsanto. Everytime I take my eyes off them, they come up with weirder shit. | Jul 19 20:56 | |
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| nj3ma | You can not be paranoid enough about Monsanto. Everytime I take my eyes off them, they come up with weirder shit. | Jul 19 20:57 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] master at work - #JimmyPage #LedZeppelin Bron-Y-Aur-Stomp http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbQ0Cb6h3Ew fantastic acoustic guitar work | Jul 19 20:59 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] More work on my OSCON presentations. :-) #oscon | Jul 19 21:04 | |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/79205886 | Jul 19 21:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Danny (tekk)'s status on Tuesday, 19-Jul-11 19:58:24 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz *facepalm* so..... !ddg uses bing as one of its sources and it's automatically ms proxying google? | Jul 19 21:05 |
| schestowitz | It's like Yahoo in the sense that it imports the bias of Microsoft (which we known censors results) | Jul 19 21:05 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Former Microsoft Staff Shows That Microsoft is a Ripoff Artist (and Proud of It) http://ur1.ca/4qnal #patents #kinect #microsoft | Jul 19 21:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Hungary has a ban on GMO seeds. Monsanto found a way of slipping them in. | Jul 19 21:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Former Microsoft Staff Shows That Microsoft is a Ripoff Artist (and Proud of It) http://ur1.ca/4qnal #hardware #monopoly #xbox | Jul 19 21:06 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/koolhead17/status/93408207569031168 | Jul 19 21:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @koolhead17: @schestowitz Now i understand why my homepage is kept as malicious threat. :P | Jul 19 21:06 |
| koolhead17 | schestowitz indeed | Jul 19 21:07 |
| koolhead17 | :P | Jul 19 21:07 |
| koolhead17 | potential threat | Jul 19 21:07 |
| koolhead17 | :P | Jul 19 21:07 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Intellectual Property Advocates Hate Competition - http://bit.ly/q6Pcjq exactly - it throttles innovation #intellectualmonopolies | Jul 19 21:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @tekk It's like Yahoo in the sense that it imports the bias of Microsoft (which we know censors results) | Jul 19 21:07 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Bill Gates has stakes in Monsanto, Microsoft and Big Pharma. Am trying to love the guy. Really trying. | Jul 19 21:11 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Who’s on pace to sell 1M phones a day? (Hint: Not Apple) - http://bit.ly/qOEDrF you know who... | Jul 19 21:12 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] What to expect in OpenBSD 5.0 onwards (That grumpy BSD guy): http://bit.ly/qoC1Fh | Jul 19 21:14 | |
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| nj3ma | Link to selling 1m phones a day story please .. | Jul 19 21:14 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] IP, coming to a plate near you.!Kenya | Jul 19 21:17 | |
| freemor | @Nj3ma the link was http://bit.ly/qOEDrF | Jul 19 21:17 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] We will eating a lot of IP soon.!Kenya #monsanto | Jul 19 21:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @nj3ma: Bill Gates has stakes in Monsanto, Microsoft and Big Pharma. Am trying to love the guy. Really trying. | Jul 19 21:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] ♻ @rysiek: few years ago Firefox was *the* browser; now it still is the browser that broke the back of IE. regardless of its problems. | Jul 19 21:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] How To Search For Classical Music On Spotify - http://bit.ly/qTTler useful tips for a great service with a terrible search function | Jul 19 21:24 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Back from a short holiday. Get ready… ;) | Jul 19 21:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] @jonobacon I briefly checked the oscon schedule but didn't see you; what are your presentation topics? | Jul 19 21:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @threethirty: ♻ @Valleywag: More Than a Dozen Arrested in Anonymous Investigation http://gawker.com/5822747/ | Jul 19 21:29 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @threethirty: Breaking: Feds indict Demand Progress's Aaron Swartz for downloading too many journal articles: http://t.co/TtUR7dS | Jul 19 21:31 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !OMG !Ubuntu: Dark Toolbars Set For Ubuntu 11.10 Default Theme http://goo.gl/OgVcp | Jul 19 21:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !OMG !Ubuntu: Google+/Picasa Image Uploader For Ubuntu’s !Unity Launcher http://goo.gl/5sJlk !googleplus | Jul 19 21:32 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Dark Toolbars Set For Ubuntu 11.10 Default Theme | OMG! Ubuntu! .::. Size~: 91.83 KB | Jul 19 21:32 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !OMG !Ubuntu: Find your place in the Ubuntu community – hit up Ubuntu Community Week happening now http://goo.gl/usLIr | Jul 19 21:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] "Of the 300 million expected sales this year, Samsung figures 60 million of them will be smartphones" | Jul 19 21:34 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] RT @eebrah ♻ @rysiek: few years ago Firefox was *the* browser; now it still is the browser that broke the back of IE. regardless of its ... | Jul 19 21:36 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !OMG: !Google #ChromeOS hands on; we review #Samsung’s first #Chromebook http://goo.gl/QtIuM | Jul 19 21:39 | |
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| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/79206559 | Jul 19 21:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Danny (tekk)'s status on Tuesday, 19-Jul-11 20:07:44 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz afaict they only use it for crawling, and since it uses a bunch of sources(which you didn't mention) censorship is negligible | Jul 19 21:40 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Ars Technica: The #Unix revolution—thank you, Uncle Sam? http://goo.gl/9xtbu | Jul 19 21:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Ars Technica: !Android 3.2 rolling out to some Xooms, SDK released http://goo.gl/q3vc5 | Jul 19 21:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !Canonical blog: !Ubuntu Certification Is Changing http://goo.gl/uBZRR | Jul 19 21:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #Androinica: !Android is out of control! 550k daily activations, 135 million devices, 6 billion app downloads http://goo.gl/EGkhT | Jul 19 21:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Ars Technica: Speed matters: how Ethernet went from 3Mbps to 100Gbps... and beyond http://goo.gl/M0p3Q | Jul 19 21:46 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #Androinica: !GooglePlus has 10 million users & a new !Android app update http://goo.gl/6DsY2 | Jul 19 21:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Xamarin Gets Permission From #Novell But Not From #Microsoft http://ur1.ca/4qnfc background in this page http://ur1.ca/4p9ia #swpats | Jul 19 21:47 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Xamarin Gets Permission From Novell But Not From Microsoft http://ur1.ca/4qnfc background in this page http://ur1.ca/4p9ia #mono #suse | Jul 19 21:51 | |
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| _Goblin | schestowitz: was speaking with Snit earlier on Skype.... Very nice chap and very sad that certain COLA posters have painted an incorrect picture of what he really believes and his views. | Jul 19 21:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Geek & Poke: Manual http://goo.gl/Cso16 | Jul 19 21:52 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Geek&Poke: The History Of Search http://goo.gl/Cso16 | Jul 19 21:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Wow, 20 posts in 24 minutes… I am awesome… | Jul 19 21:54 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] Firefox 7 add-on compatibility, and looking forward to 8 http://blog.mozilla.com/addons/2011/07/19/firefox-7-compat-looking-to-8/ | Jul 19 21:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] Add-ons Review Update – Week of 2011/07/19 http://blog.mozilla.com/addons/2011/07/19/add-ons-review-update-35/ | Jul 19 21:57 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !Linaro: June CEO Report http://goo.gl/lNaQQ | Jul 19 22:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #WebUpd8: #Ambiance To Get A Dark Toolbar, #Compiz Modal Dialogs Update - !Ubuntu #Oneiric http://goo.gl/ntTGx | Jul 19 22:01 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @telecomix: Demand Progress Founder Arrested for Downloading Academic Articles http://dlvr.it/bp5JZ #piracy #censorship #copyright | Jul 19 22:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] silly @telecomix don't you know knowledge is the single most dangerous weapon of Terrorist Paedophile Pirates of Teh Internets? | Jul 19 22:04 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Jul 19 22:04 |
| MinceR | apparently google now allows itself to be used by metasearch engines now | Jul 19 22:05 |
| MinceR | http://www.metacrawler.com/ | Jul 19 22:05 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #WebUpd8: Unified Messaging Menu / MeMenu Lands In !Ubuntu #Oneiric, New Power Indicator Available http://goo.gl/nzKxP | Jul 19 22:09 | |
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| schestowitz | _Goblin: yeah | Jul 19 22:10 |
| MinceR | -now | Jul 19 22:10 |
| schestowitz | but he dies troll COLA | Jul 19 22:10 |
| sebsebseb | hi | Jul 19 22:10 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Bait Headlines Cause Harm to #GNU #Linux , Help #Microsoft http://ur1.ca/4qnkg #churnalism #pr #microsoft #fud #windows7 #windows8 | Jul 19 22:11 | |
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| MinceR | hay sebsebseb | Jul 19 22:11 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: Hey | Jul 19 22:11 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Bait Headlines Cause Harm to GNU/Linux, Help Microsoft http://ur1.ca/4qnkg #kernel #novell #gpl #journalism #linkbait | Jul 19 22:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] News Corp board shocked at evidence of payments to police, says former DPP - http://bit.ly/pYhgTO oh look: Carter Ruck pops up again #notw | Jul 19 22:14 | |
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| _Goblin | schestowitz: see this is where the stirring by some had led to a misunderstanding. | Jul 19 22:16 |
| _Goblin | schestowitz: Michael is passionate in his views and 100% behind them (like we all are)....the difference being though is that (as you'll see) his opinions on other topics are not what you think....he was very open and friendly...I think its going to be great having him on. | Jul 19 22:17 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Oh god, @azcentral commenters. Save me from the stupid. | Jul 19 22:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Kickstarter surpasses 10,000 successfully-funded projects; one-third are music-related. https://eff.org/r.88K | Jul 19 22:26 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Aaron Swartz, activist and Demand Progress co-founder, faces indictment for alleged computer crimes. https://eff.org/r.89H | Jul 19 22:27 | |
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| GoForbes28 | hi schestowitz | Jul 19 22:30 |
| GoForbes28 | regarding your article http://techrights.org/2011/07/19/to-microsoft-in-search/ | Jul 19 22:30 |
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| GoForbes28 | it took you this long to find this out? | Jul 19 22:30 |
| GoForbes28 | I mentioned this at least two months ago :S | Jul 19 22:31 |
| GoForbes28 | I'm pretty sure I noted it in the IRC as well | Jul 19 22:32 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Tech Drive-in: Top 10 FPS Games for !Linux http://goo.gl/YQVW6 | Jul 19 22:32 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] Anyone got any recommendations for a webcam that's supported by #LinuxLibre? I'd like to be able to video chat with @bkuhn and others. | Jul 19 22:34 | |
| MinceR | they forgot Xonotic | Jul 19 22:34 |
| GoForbes28 | maybe because it's still fairly prerelease? | Jul 19 22:35 |
| GoForbes28 | though very well done | Jul 19 22:35 |
| MinceR | dunno | Jul 19 22:36 |
| GoForbes28 | probably will change soon :) | Jul 19 22:39 |
| GoForbes28 | the xonotic music is really quite good | Jul 19 22:39 |
| GoForbes28 | MinceR: Why no BZFlag? It's a FPS, after all | Jul 19 22:44 |
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| MinceR | don't ask me, i don't know BZFlag that much | Jul 19 22:47 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Increasingly I'm finding that I learn more about some new-to-me software from Wikipedia than from its company's own Web site | Jul 19 22:47 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] @tekk That looks like something in a laptop? I want something I can plug into my computer and use on my huge-ass monitor at work. | Jul 19 22:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] massive amounts of work done to libplasma2 in the last couple of days. Package is done, PackageStructure had to come back but ++improved. | Jul 19 22:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] also got rid of quite a lot of API "bloat": things that drifted as requirements did over the last 5 years. (first plasma code is (C) 2006!) | Jul 19 22:56 | |
| *ChanServ gives channel operator status to MinceR | Jul 19 22:56 | |
| MinceR | gn | Jul 19 22:58 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Patent Trolls Drive App Developers from U.S. Market: https://eff.org/r.38N Attorneys, please sign up to help fight trolls! | Jul 19 23:09 | |
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| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/79214017 | Jul 19 23:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Qubit ArkHive (qubitarkhive)'s status on Tuesday, 19-Jul-11 22:01:48 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz it amazes me what you'll turn into an attack | Jul 19 23:16 |
| schestowitz | attack? | Jul 19 23:16 |
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| schestowitz | _Goblin: yes, I know he's like that | Jul 19 23:17 |
| _Goblin | lol... | Jul 19 23:17 |
| _Goblin | sorry out of sync.... | Jul 19 23:17 |
| schestowitz | but what he does in COLA is mostly disruptive | Jul 19 23:17 |
| schestowitz | [22:31] <GoForbes28> I mentioned this at least two months ago :S | Jul 19 23:17 |
| schestowitz | Yeah, today I saw for myself | Jul 19 23:17 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] 8/8 on the !eff digital rights quiz, not bad... | Jul 19 23:21 | |
| Snit | schestowitz: what do you think I do that is disruptive - other, maybe, than to respond to those who troll me (current example: cc as he makes up "quotes" he says are from me) | Jul 19 23:21 |
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| Snit | schestowitz: all I ask is if you or others are going to make accusations that you back them up. Most of the time people cannot do so. | Jul 19 23:22 |
| schestowitz | today you heckled Linux | Jul 19 23:22 |
| schestowitz | in a Linux advocacy group | Jul 19 23:22 |
| schestowitz | that's the definition of trolling | Jul 19 23:23 |
| Snit | Can you quote this "heckling"? | Jul 19 23:23 |
| schestowitz | I saw only replies | Jul 19 23:23 |
| schestowitz | then I hit 'i' for ignore | Jul 19 23:23 |
| schestowitz | cause trolls were fed | Jul 19 23:23 |
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| Snit | I noted that while many in COLA insist that Win 7 Phone is not very usable, the *data* does not back that up - consumers are finding that they prefer the MS solution to Android. | Jul 19 23:23 |
| schestowitz | wb, eebrah | Jul 19 23:23 |
| Snit | Is that what you are in reference to? | Jul 19 23:23 |
| _Goblin | Snit: you are meaning the satisfaction results? | Jul 19 23:24 |
| Snit | The fact I brought up a survey that contradicted the claims others had made in COLA? | Jul 19 23:24 |
| Snit | Yes | Jul 19 23:24 |
| schestowitz | Just finished a 4-page paper on something I've worked on since yesterday night | Jul 19 23:24 |
| Snit | This one: <http://www.networkworld.com/news/2011/071811-smartphone-preferences.html> OR <http://goo.gl/YtCAL> | Jul 19 23:24 |
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| schestowitz | The chat here prevented me from sending it off before | Jul 19 23:24 |
| _Goblin | Snit: Do we know though if the WP7 users had used or had an android phone before or was the WP7 the first smartphone experience? | Jul 19 23:24 |
| schestowitz | who funded it? | Jul 19 23:25 |
| Snit | All I know is what I read there... | Jul 19 23:25 |
| schestowitz | This is IDG article | Jul 19 23:25 |
| _Goblin | Snit: I didn't see the survey myself | Jul 19 23:25 |
| schestowitz | I didn't click it | Jul 19 23:25 |
| schestowitz | But some Microsoft-sponored and Apple-sponsored stuff is useless | Jul 19 23:25 |
| Snit | It is a ChangeWave report | Jul 19 23:25 |
| schestowitz | who paid? | Jul 19 23:25 |
| Snit | Here: the source - http://www.changewaveresearch.com/articles/2011/smart_phones_20110718.html | Jul 19 23:25 |
| schestowitz | never heard of this 'company' | Jul 19 23:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: New Survey: Consumer Smart Phones - Apple vs. Google Android .::. Size~: 12.58 KB | Jul 19 23:25 |
| schestowitz | the question is, what paid them? | Jul 19 23:25 |
| schestowitz | What's their business? | Jul 19 23:26 |
| Snit | Looking to see who funded | Jul 19 23:26 |
| schestowitz | Take Burton Group for example | Jul 19 23:26 |
| schestowitz | Paid by Microsoft | Jul 19 23:26 |
| schestowitz | In secret ways | Jul 19 23:26 |
| schestowitz | Snd they tried to hide the biz model by overcharging for reports | Jul 19 23:26 |
| schestowitz | Later Microsoft hird members of the group and Gartner bought them | Jul 19 23:26 |
| Snit | If you think this survey was flawed it is fine for you to question it - but why call me "disruptive" for pointing out data that is contrary to the views of many in COLA? | Jul 19 23:27 |
| Snit | If you want the full survey it is here: http://www.glgroup.com/Store/ChangeWave-Consumer-Smart-Phone-Demand-Report--Apple-vs.-Android---The-Race-for-Market-Supremacy-1128.html | Jul 19 23:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: ChangeWave Consumer Smart Phone Demand Report: Apple vs. Android - The Race for Market Supremacy - Research Store - Gerson Lehrman Group .::. Size~: 20.14 KB | Jul 19 23:28 |
| Snit | A bit outside my funds right now. :) ($1500) | Jul 19 23:28 |
| _Goblin | Maybe I'm reading this wrong (and I'm just skimming) but according to this 27% of Win users are satisfied whereas contrasted with 70% for apple and 50% for android | Jul 19 23:28 |
| Snit | I noticed some oddities in how they reported the data as well. | Jul 19 23:29 |
| _Goblin | Thats quite an achievement for both Apple and Android when you consider how many more people they are deployed to than WP7. | Jul 19 23:29 |
| Snit | It is. | Jul 19 23:29 |
| _Goblin | "you can't please everybody" - Seems to be a false statement if the 70% is representative of Apples acheivements | Jul 19 23:30 |
| Snit | And if MS can enter the "fray" and make it so there is an interesting 3-way consumer battle going on I have no problem with that. | Jul 19 23:30 |
| Snit | iOS and the iPhone have continued to gain unheard of user satisfaction ratings. | Jul 19 23:30 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @rgunjan: RT @bryanrhoads: RT @ASUS: What makes the @ASUS ultrabook so special? #UX21 - http://ow.ly/5IjOr | Jul 19 23:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @Develop4AppUp: Have you been watching the new Intel AppUp Show for developers? Check out the first episode today! http://t.co/fMGGyv3 | Jul 19 23:31 | |
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| Snit | Macs almost always have higher rating that PCs in general, though HP and Dell have been catching up relatively recently. | Jul 19 23:31 |
| Snit | Which is good - pushed Apple. Good for consumers. | Jul 19 23:31 |
| ThistleWeb | a mac is a pc | Jul 19 23:32 |
| Snit | But I still want to know why schestowitz would think my noting a fact that is contrary to his views is "disruptive" | Jul 19 23:32 |
| schestowitz | GPLG? | Jul 19 23:32 |
| _Goblin | Snit: I would worry....one of the reasons I appreciate Apple is that they have introduced diversity into a market that is dominated with MS, I would worry that should MS get a foothold, we would have another 20 years of Microsoft being forcefed and people taking because they know no better. | Jul 19 23:32 |
| ThistleWeb | jus' sayin' | Jul 19 23:32 |
| schestowitz | Wait... | Jul 19 23:32 |
| schestowitz | Gerson Lehrman Group | Jul 19 23:32 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @Texrat RT @EFF Patent Trolls Drive App Developers from U.S. Market https://eff.org/r.38N Attorneys, please sign up to help fight trolls! | Jul 19 23:32 | |
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| schestowitz | The Microsoft boosters... I know them | Jul 19 23:32 |
| Snit | ThistleWeb: The terms "Mac" and "PC" confuse some people - and that is because there are two general types of "PCs"… and those types are "Macs" and "PCs". And, of course desktop Linux is there, too. | Jul 19 23:33 |
| schestowitz | sigh// | Jul 19 23:33 |
| Snit | schestowitz: but in your view, who is *not* an MS booster? | Jul 19 23:33 |
| schestowitz | Now we get cola trolling here, free of charge | Jul 19 23:33 |
| ThistleWeb | I know the marketing, just saying a PC is a PC no matter the OS | Jul 19 23:34 |
| Snit | ThistleWeb: and in *one* sense of the word you are correct. But not the other. | Jul 19 23:34 |
| _Goblin | I think Snit is as dedicated in his views as anyone here..... I don't think a different view is disrupting I think it is more healthy, I'd hate this place if everyone agreed. | Jul 19 23:34 |
| ThistleWeb | in apple marketing speak I'm wrong | Jul 19 23:34 |
| Snit | And, yes, I know how this can confuse some people. So be it… language is not as exact as math. | Jul 19 23:34 |
| ThistleWeb | outside of that, I'm right | Jul 19 23:34 |
| cubezzz | it's a broad generalization... PC = Personal Computer | Jul 19 23:35 |
| Snit | ThistleWeb: it is not just marketing speak - it is how they are referenced | Jul 19 23:35 |
| cubezzz | could be AmigaDOS, Plan 9. CP/M or a dozen other OSes | Jul 19 23:35 |
| ThistleWeb | which is written by marketing people | Jul 19 23:35 |
| Snit | It is like me running around insisting that the "t" in "often" should not be pronounced. Well, it *used* to be "wrong" to do so… but everyone did so now it is considered OK | Jul 19 23:35 |
| ThistleWeb | if apple can portray their PC as somehow a different breed, they can charge premium prices | Jul 19 23:35 |
| cubezzz | you may as well say x86 box | Jul 19 23:35 |
| cubezzz | these days | Jul 19 23:36 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Soon to be former Lawyer Trying To Trademark Bitcoin Threatens Techdirt With Bogus DMCA Takedown http://ur1.ca/4qnz9 !bc | Jul 19 23:36 | |
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| Snit | ThistleWeb: they charge about the same as comparable PCs | Jul 19 23:36 |
| Snit | Or Dells and HPs if you prefer. | Jul 19 23:36 |
| ThistleWeb | it doesn't change the fact that it's still a personal computer (PC) | Jul 19 23:36 |
| Snit | But they do not sell low end boxes | Jul 19 23:36 |
| cubezzz | the homogenization of computers is complete | Jul 19 23:36 |
| Snit | Nobody has denied they are a PC - *in that sense of the word*. | Jul 19 23:36 |
| Snit | What I am noting is that this is not the only meaning of the word. | Jul 19 23:37 |
| cubezzz | Kleenex == generic term | Jul 19 23:37 |
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| cubezzz | an imprecise rendering of language | Jul 19 23:37 |
| cubezzz | will the wintel effect finally give way to something else .... | Jul 19 23:38 |
| Snit | As I have noted: many people get confused by the fact the term has two closely related meanings. | Jul 19 23:39 |
| Snit | And, sure, I think it would be better if that were not the case - but my wanting that does not remove either of the meanings! | Jul 19 23:39 |
| ThistleWeb | apple brand their PC as some exclusive special item worth paying a premium for | Jul 19 23:39 |
| Snit | ThistleWeb: what do you mean? | Jul 19 23:39 |
| Snit | They "branded" them as "Macs" | Jul 19 23:39 |
| ThistleWeb | I know, just sayin' it's still a PC no matter what the marketing folks tell ya | Jul 19 23:40 |
| cubezzz | well Panasonic Toughbooks are a 'brand' too | Jul 19 23:40 |
| Snit | And they are. If someone was looking for a non-Mac PC and got a Mac they would not be pleased. They are different. | Jul 19 23:40 |
| cubezzz | still, they are good to ue | Jul 19 23:40 |
| cubezzz | use | Jul 19 23:40 |
| Snit | ThistleWeb: yes - you keep saying you only accept one of the two definitions. That is fine: but not expect others to alter their use of language to fit your desire to alter it. | Jul 19 23:41 |
| cubezzz | couldn't you just put another OS on it though Snit? | Jul 19 23:41 |
| ThistleWeb | actually. with the amount of DRM in windows and apple, the OS's are licensed, it's not eactly a "personal" computer, but more of a CC (corporate computer) since there's restrictions on what you can and can't do with it after you "bought it" it still belongs to the corp | Jul 19 23:41 |
| Snit | I can say that "decimate" must mean destroying only 1/10th of something - and I could show where I am "right". But people will still use the word otherwise - and they will communicate just fine with it | Jul 19 23:41 |
| Snit | ThistleWeb: and there you are working to just completely twist the meaning of the term | Jul 19 23:42 |
| cubezzz | windows computer != PC | Jul 19 23:42 |
| ThistleWeb | if you don't own it, it's hardly personal | Jul 19 23:42 |
| cubezzz | that is just not correct | Jul 19 23:42 |
| Snit | They can be said to no longer be *personal* because they are designed to have multiple user accounts. That is what the "personal" originally meant | Jul 19 23:42 |
| cubezzz | the older term is microcomputer | Jul 19 23:42 |
| ThistleWeb | personalise to your needs | Jul 19 23:42 |
| ThistleWeb | install the programs you needs | Jul 19 23:42 |
| ThistleWeb | if your needs work better without windows, tough....you're using it wrong | Jul 19 23:43 |
| cubezzz | hang out in #classiccmp for a while, that will change your perceptions a bit | Jul 19 23:44 |
| Snit | The original idea of "personal" was that it was to be used by an individual (or at least one at a time). Contrasted with the mainframes of the day. | Jul 19 23:44 |
| ThistleWeb | I know the common use of PC | Jul 19 23:44 |
| cubezzz | maybe even broaden your horizons | Jul 19 23:44 |
| ThistleWeb | just sayin' it's not accurate | Jul 19 23:44 |
| Snit | ThistleWeb: great. | Jul 19 23:44 |
| ThistleWeb | like there's no such thing as a PC virus | Jul 19 23:44 |
| ThistleWeb | despite the millions of hits on Google claiming otherwise | Jul 19 23:44 |
| Snit | But it *is* accurate. It just confuses some when it has two closely related meanings. | Jul 19 23:44 |
| *schestowitz does not say "mac", says "Mac OS 10" or "apple-branded PC" | Jul 19 23:45 | |
| ThistleWeb | there is Windows viruses | Jul 19 23:45 |
| Snit | Well: accurate but now always completely precise. Are tablets PCs? | Jul 19 23:45 |
| cubezzz | the Mac vs PC ads are silly though | Jul 19 23:45 |
| ThistleWeb | tablets are PCs yes | Jul 19 23:45 |
| *schestowitz thinks it's like saying "Muslin child" about a kid who never chose a religion | Jul 19 23:45 | |
| Snit | Well, the ones running desktop OSs might be… but the ones with iOS, which are in many ways more personal, are not generally seen as so | Jul 19 23:45 |
| ThistleWeb | different form factor, different use cases, but yes | Jul 19 23:45 |
| cubezzz | form factor is significant though | Jul 19 23:45 |
| cubezzz | I call those Handhelds | Jul 19 23:46 |
| schestowitz | tablets are a form factor | Jul 19 23:46 |
| schestowitz | PCs is a class in sales | Jul 19 23:46 |
| cubezzz | and my regular "PC" is a desktop | Jul 19 23:46 |
| Snit | I think the idea if a tablet is a PC is still a bit up in the air. And if they are, how about iPod Touches and the like? | Jul 19 23:46 |
| schestowitz | server versus mainframe, PC, etc. | Jul 19 23:46 |
| schestowitz | phones become similar to PCs | Jul 19 23:46 |
| schestowitz | They go upscale | Jul 19 23:46 |
| cubezzz | it's got memory, removeable media, even sound, and a cpu | Jul 19 23:46 |
| Snit | schestowitz: I am more with you on that. I would not consider a server or tablet to be a PC. In general | Jul 19 23:46 |
| cubezzz | so it's a computer... but it's a handheld computer | Jul 19 23:47 |
| _Goblin | Ive never thought about the PC name......I would suppose just like "hoover" PC is a generic term come to mean whatever context its said in. | Jul 19 23:47 |
| schestowitz | cubezzz: I can hold up my PC :-) | Jul 19 23:47 |
| cubezzz | can you hold it in one hand? | Jul 19 23:47 |
| Snit | Goblin: right - the meaning is different depending on context. | Jul 19 23:47 |
| cubezzz | ;-) | Jul 19 23:47 |
| ThistleWeb | I see a PC as a combination of hardware and OS, which allows the user to install, configure it to their needs, regardless of the form factor | Jul 19 23:47 |
| ThistleWeb | a smartphone can do that | Jul 19 23:47 |
| _Goblin | I think I would always consider a PC to be a keyboard mouse and monitor, with CPU....thats the mental image it throws up if the PC word is said on its own..... | Jul 19 23:47 |
| cubezzz | ThistleWeb, if I can interject a bit... | Jul 19 23:47 |
| ThistleWeb | so can a tablet | Jul 19 23:48 |
| cubezzz | you don't have bios source code... it's a bit of a problem | Jul 19 23:48 |
| _Goblin | of course PC in another context could mean "politically correct" | Jul 19 23:48 |
| ThistleWeb | not sure about an ipod | Jul 19 23:48 |
| Snit | And I see toys that have right on their packages: 10 pcs | Jul 19 23:48 |
| cubezzz | there are some rare exceptional cases though | Jul 19 23:48 |
| Snit | I do not expect to get 10 computers in the bag! :) | Jul 19 23:48 |
| ThistleWeb | apple and microsoft license under conditions, meaning they have the kill switch, meaning they're never truely yours | Jul 19 23:48 |
| cubezzz | right, PC == vague term | Jul 19 23:49 |
| Snit | An iPod is pretty much just a small iPad. | Jul 19 23:49 |
| _Goblin | like hoover | Jul 19 23:49 |
| cubezzz | probably better not to use it | Jul 19 23:49 |
| ThistleWeb | even android is to some degree | Jul 19 23:49 |
| cubezzz | no one thinks about their BIOS :-/ | Jul 19 23:49 |
| cubezzz | it's a glaring weakness | Jul 19 23:49 |
| _Goblin | infact podcast is a name that conjures up different opinions.... | Jul 19 23:49 |
| schestowitz | cubezzz: bi-OS (fdual boot) | Jul 19 23:50 |
| schestowitz | :-p | Jul 19 23:50 |
| Snit | My PC does not have a BIOS | Jul 19 23:50 |
| ThistleWeb | "I don't like Safari as my iPad browser, I think I'll see what else is available which may suit my needs" | Jul 19 23:50 |
| cubezzz | :-/ :-P :) | Jul 19 23:50 |
| schestowitz | ubuntu or mandriva on this box | Jul 19 23:50 |
| schestowitz | But I zapped mandriva recrntly | Jul 19 23:50 |
| cubezzz | Snit, so how do the memory registers get initialized? | Jul 19 23:50 |
| ThistleWeb | "wait, what do you mean apple refuse any other browsers because it competes with safari"? | Jul 19 23:50 |
| schestowitz | ThistleWeb: try zoo | Jul 19 23:50 |
| Snit | EFI | Jul 19 23:50 |
| _Goblin | schestowitz: I feel your pain.....I zapped Sabayon, my fault entirely | Jul 19 23:51 |
| Snit | Apple uses EFI and not BIOS | Jul 19 23:51 |
| schestowitz | for me it was space | Jul 19 23:51 |
| Snit | Though for booting Windows it can emulate BIOS | Jul 19 23:51 |
| _Goblin | schestowitz: for me it was stupidity | Jul 19 23:51 |
| ThistleWeb | apple's stuff is still a PC as long as you stick within thir walled garden | Jul 19 23:51 |
| schestowitz | my 5 partitions have legacy in them | Jul 19 23:51 |
| Snit | ThistleWeb: not sure what you mean. You mean the "walled garden" of iOS? | Jul 19 23:51 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: lxny will be upset | Jul 19 23:52 |
| Snit | But that would mean all iOS devices you see as PCs. Which seems a bit off | Jul 19 23:52 |
| Snit | odd | Jul 19 23:52 |
| cubezzz | Intel does some bad things with EFI | Jul 19 23:52 |
| Snit | cubezzz: such as? | Jul 19 23:52 |
| cubezzz | like cryptographically signed code | Jul 19 23:52 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] RT @davidmarsden @rpcutts Eff off. | Jul 19 23:52 | |
| cubezzz | you don't really know what it does either | Jul 19 23:52 |
| schestowitz | Apple is the effin of EFI | Jul 19 23:52 |
| ThistleWeb | I mean apple set out workflows of how things should be done, as long as you use the devices that way, you won't have a problem....as soon as you develop some independant thought and decide you want your workflow a little bit different, apple block you | Jul 19 23:53 |
| Snit | cubezzz: I also do not know the details of how my car works. I am OK with that. It still serves my needs very well | Jul 19 23:53 |
| schestowitz | ThistleWeb: indeed | Jul 19 23:53 |
| ThistleWeb | want an ipad without itunes? good luck, the staff need to sign you up with a credit card before you can buy an ipad | Jul 19 23:53 |
| Snit | ThistleWeb: what the? Do you have an example of this? | Jul 19 23:53 |
| schestowitz | my mnate fabio bragged about 'hacking' his iphone | Jul 19 23:53 |
| schestowitz | I asked him, why did you need to? | Jul 19 23:53 |
| schestowitz | "Did you pay for this phone? | Jul 19 23:53 |
| ThistleWeb | want to transfer files to and from your ipad without itunes? forget it | Jul 19 23:54 |
| schestowitz | And he goes like, yes... | Jul 19 23:54 |
| schestowitz | And then I make him realise he rents it and has no control | Jul 19 23:54 |
| schestowitz | Locked out of his own phone | Jul 19 23:54 |
| schestowitz | My other mate Peter needed to buy a new PAYG phone | Jul 19 23:54 |
| cubezzz | I'd rather have all the code that my computer executes in source form so I can see it | Jul 19 23:54 |
| ThistleWeb | that's fine if you like itunes, and WANT to do the apple workflow | Jul 19 23:54 |
| Snit | That is like complaining that when you buy a Corolla it only supports Toyota engines. Well, yeah… you might be able to hack something else into there, but… why complain about it? | Jul 19 23:54 |
| schestowitz | Because his Iphone got bricked by the provider | Jul 19 23:54 |
| cubezzz | and at least try to understand it | Jul 19 23:54 |
| schestowitz | Because he tried to actually use it the way he wanted to | Jul 19 23:54 |
| schestowitz | It's absolutely disgusting | Jul 19 23:54 |
| schestowitz | People spending hours fighting to just use something they paid for | Jul 19 23:55 |
| Snit | schestowitz: what is disgusting? I missed it? | Jul 19 23:55 |
| ThistleWeb | if it's a "personal computer" you should be able to set it up to suit your personal circumstance and workflow | Jul 19 23:55 |
| schestowitz | Anyway, I told him about cynogenmode and maybe next time he'll get android. He has been an iphone cultist for years | Jul 19 23:55 |
| Snit | No, they do not. They might pay a lot of money and spend a lot of time putting a Ford engine into a Corolla, but that is their right. | Jul 19 23:55 |
| Snit | Not something I would expect Toyota to really help them with. | Jul 19 23:55 |
| cubezzz | pre-1977 computers came with bios source code | Jul 19 23:55 |
| ThistleWeb | when there's restrictions like "you have to use itunes to transfer files" it's stuill apple's PC, not yours | Jul 19 23:56 |
| Snit | I know I set up my Mac to fit my needs and tastes and desires. | Jul 19 23:56 |
| cubezzz | I think the IBM AT did as well | Jul 19 23:56 |
| Snit | You do not have to use iTunes to transfer music. | Jul 19 23:56 |
| Snit | Though you can. | Jul 19 23:56 |
| schestowitz | your PC | Jul 19 23:56 |
| schestowitz | Not "your mac" | Jul 19 23:56 |
| ThistleWeb | he who can destroy a thing, owns a thing - moadeeb - dune | Jul 19 23:56 |
| schestowitz | it's not yours | Jul 19 23:56 |
| schestowitz | It's Steve's | Jul 19 23:56 |
| schestowitz | he even customised it for himself | Jul 19 23:56 |
| schestowitz | The rigid layout of the env | Jul 19 23:56 |
| Snit | No, the Mac I have right here is mine. I paid for it. I also paid for the rights to use some IP. | Jul 19 23:57 |
| ThistleWeb | under certain conditions laid down by apple | Jul 19 23:57 |
| Snit | schestowitz: by all means, give an example! | Jul 19 23:57 |
| ThistleWeb | which they can change at any time | Jul 19 23:57 |
| Snit | You keep saying these things… but cannot give examples. | Jul 19 23:57 |
| schestowitz | Snit: you pay the ISP for IP | Jul 19 23:57 |
| schestowitz | And they can withdraw the IP :-) | Jul 19 23:57 |
| ThistleWeb | when apple retain rights, it's not yours | Jul 19 23:57 |
| schestowitz | you license a Mac | Jul 19 23:58 |
| schestowitz | you don't own it | Jul 19 23:58 |
| schestowitz | I own my OS | Jul 19 23:58 |
| ThistleWeb | if you buy a car, it's your right to modify it how you like, destroy it if you like | Jul 19 23:58 |
| schestowitz | I can do what I want with the code | Jul 19 23:58 |
| Snit | In other words: you just hate anything that is not open source. I got it. Nothing against the Mac, just it does not fit your personal preference. | Jul 19 23:58 |
| Snit | Great! | Jul 19 23:58 |
| schestowitz | As long as I comply with the GPL | Jul 19 23:58 |
| ThistleWeb | resell it | Jul 19 23:58 |
| Snit | I have no problem with that. | Jul 19 23:58 |
| schestowitz | It won't lock me out, either | Jul 19 23:58 |
| Snit | But it is not a problem with the Mac and it does not make the Mac serve me any less well | Jul 19 23:58 |
| schestowitz | Apple pretends you own it | Jul 19 23:58 |
| ThistleWeb | microsoft do the same as apple here | Jul 19 23:58 |
| schestowitz | They try to make you feel tis way... so does Microsoft | Jul 19 23:58 |
| Snit | What is Apple "pretending"? | Jul 19 23:58 |
| ThistleWeb | they sell you the right to use it under conditions they set down | Jul 19 23:58 |
| schestowitz | Until it bites. | Jul 19 23:58 |
| Snit | Really: you are just making things up here. | Jul 19 23:58 |
| schestowitz | <It's like "no caps" | Jul 19 23:59 |
| schestowitz | "SURE! No caps..." | Jul 19 23:59 |
| schestowitz | Unlimited bandwidth! | Jul 19 23:59 |
| ThistleWeb | but retain all sorts of rights, meaning you never own it, despite "buying" it from a store | Jul 19 23:59 |
| schestowitz | UNTIL... you hit the secret limit | Jul 19 23:59 |
| Snit | I get it: you hate IP. Lovely. But that is not really the question here. | Jul 19 23:59 |
| schestowitz | All you cat eat buffet | Jul 19 23:59 |
| schestowitz | Until they give you dirty looks :-) | Jul 19 23:59 |
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