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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/MDI_LLC/status/93814208893956096Jul 21 00:07
schestowitzhosted emacs? :-)Jul 21 00:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Coolest Quit Smoking Ad Ever [IMG] http://imgur.com/70uyaJul 21 00:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @schestowitz: Coolest Quit Smoking Ad Ever [IMG] http://imgur.com/70uyaJul 21 00:10
cubezzzyet another forgotten OS: TRIPOSJul 21 00:10
schestowitzhttp://imgur.com/r/funny/EFaBiJul 21 00:11
cubezzzhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRIPOSJul 21 00:11
schestowitzhttp://imgur.com/r/funny/0bXelJul 21 00:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Crooks and Liars : House Republicans Show Up Outside of White House Demanding Written Proposal on Debt Ceiling http://bit.ly/qiKfgZJul 21 00:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Groklaw NewsPicks : Ottawa won’t review Nortel patent sale http://bit.ly/rjEV4J « More bad newsJul 21 00:12
cubezzzanother invention from EnglandJul 21 00:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Techdirt : Phoenix DA Decides Not To File Charges Against Woman Accused Of Groping #TSA Agent http://bit.ly/oeKHlOJul 21 00:15
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twitterHere's some astounding news.  http://blog.demandprogress.org/2011/07/federal-government-indicts-former-demand-progress-executive-director-for-downloading-too-many-journal-articles/Jul 21 00:24
schestowitzHeheJul 21 00:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @jezra speaking of #HeyBuddy feature requests, storing the user / pass encrypted would be nice instead of plain text in /homeJul 21 00:25
twitterthe NYT has another one of their "hacker" smear articles about it, but the most ridiculous thing is that the guy is basically being charged with intent to shareJul 21 00:25
twitterSome one at Forbes uses the trumped up charges to take a swipe at Open Access in general, which might the the intent of the charges.  http://blogs.forbes.com/timothylee/2011/07/20/aaron-swartzs-reckless-activism/Jul 21 00:26
twitter-> "the more lasting cost of Aaron’s actions will likely be to the reputation of the open access movement"Jul 21 00:27
twitterthat's like saying that arresting rape victims who protest is likely to harm the reputation of all women Jul 21 00:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Links 20/7/2011: Linux Vitality, Tablets With Linux Grows Fast http://ur1.ca/4qwto #techrightsJul 21 00:30
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNgypxj-QEsJul 21 00:31
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_GoblinHi allJul 21 01:04
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_Goblinsnit: according to Gary/Flatfish you've challenged me in IRC...... I seem to remember our discussions the other night being that of agreement and politeness....Jul 21 01:07
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twitterhello goblinJul 21 01:11
twitterI challenge you to a duel.  M80 at 50 paces and may God have mercy on your fingers.Jul 21 01:12
_Goblin:)Jul 21 01:12
_GoblinI think the traditional way to challenge to a duel is to slap me around the face with a leather glove.Jul 21 01:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUaX_2lyoak << this dude is awesome, playing #Warheads by #Extreme #NunoBettencourtJul 21 01:14
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twitterI don't think Flatfish cares much for traditions.Jul 21 01:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] pro-Murdoch, anti-WikiLeaks propaganda from US gov Radio Liberty http://t.co/G74dHORJul 21 01:15
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twitterHar har, paying police men and known criminals to wiretap dead celebs is surely the moral equivalent of giving people a place to expose government crimes. Jul 21 01:17
twitterOh wait, Murdoch did it for money, that must make it good.Jul 21 01:17
twitterand how about his perky 3rd wife who hit the pie man in the face?  violence makes things right too.Jul 21 01:21
SnitGoblin: I just posted to COLA.Jul 21 01:22
SnitIn short: I do not think I have "challenged" you on anything - I have challenged some of Roy's comments.  He has not been able to support them, but I granted in COLA that could be in part because of time.  Still, it seems like he is dodging a bit.  So be it… as I said there, it is not like I would have given this a second thought had the topic not come up.Jul 21 01:23
SnitToo busy playing with Lion today to have even thought about it.  :)Jul 21 01:23
SnitFor the most part I like it - though they have some graphical and animation stuff that seems useless and even distracting.  But that is the exception - for the most part I like it.Jul 21 01:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] FBI at the door with a search warrant? You have rights. http://t.co/lk0nNQE Print & keep this nearby: http://t.co/gtWGthn #anonymousJul 21 01:34
_Goblinsorry I was afkJul 21 01:34
_Goblindoing a cola rant!Jul 21 01:34
SnitNo problem… I need to run in a moment myself.  Off to dinner.Jul 21 01:34
_Goblinok, np....looking forward to Sunday.Jul 21 01:34
SnitDitto.  Assuming I get some sleep between now and thenJul 21 01:35
SnitDid Roy tell you he wanted it an hour earlier?  I am fine with that.Jul 21 01:35
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SnitI mean, Roy challenged me on the time and I succumbed to the pressure… he won that one!  :)Jul 21 01:35
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_GoblinlolJul 21 01:41
_GoblinLike I said before, there will be one major challenge...if you bring up the Dr Who Tom Baker issue.......Jul 21 01:41
_Goblin;)Jul 21 01:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks shows the US calling the shots in Haiti | McClatchy http://t.co/4AKR1fkJul 21 01:45
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_Goblinschestowitz: A commenter on ep55 on my show notes makes an interesting idea for the next show......Jul 21 01:46
_Goblinschestowitz: how about "What has Microsoft done for us?" - debating good things from the past the Microsoft has produced (either directly or indirectly)....it could be quite interesting....Jul 21 01:47
twitterSo, Snit, what interesting thing did you "challenge" Roy with?  I'm having dinner and would like something to think about.Jul 21 01:50
twitter_Goblin,  such a show would be very short.  It would be like trying to talk about zero.Jul 21 01:52
_GoblinI thought it could be angled around the Monty Python sketch of "What have the romans done for us?"Jul 21 01:53
_Goblinbut then when you think about it ......Jul 21 01:53
twitterall you might do is give them credit that someone else deservesJul 21 01:53
_Goblincould we not thank Microsoft for cheap hardware as the demanding windows forced users to upgrade, thus creating demand and driving down price?Jul 21 01:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] [$] LWN.net Weekly Edition for July 21, 2011 http://lwn.net/Articles/451695/rssJul 21 01:54
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_GoblinSteve Ballmer........Jul 21 01:54
twitterno, you can't think Microsoft for that.  if it were not for Wintel, there would be other chip makers competing for businessJul 21 01:54
_GoblinMicrosoft need to be thanked for that....proof that you can make people laugh and run a massive company at the same time.Jul 21 01:55
twitterMicrosoft is working hard to suppress ARM again and there are many others they have done this too.Jul 21 01:56
_GoblinBill Gates - The worlds richest man with the cheapest haircut.  Proof that even a geek can have a fit wife if they have cash on the hipJul 21 01:56
_GoblinMicrosoft needs to be thanked for Billy Boy (or maybe the other way around)Jul 21 01:57
twitterI think he's bald and wears a wig but that does not matter much.  Not everyone can have hair like Richard Stallman Jul 21 01:57
twitterGates and friends ruined a lot of nice people. Jul 21 01:57
_Goblinso have many people.Jul 21 01:58
_Goblinits unfortunately human natureJul 21 01:58
twitterI do not think Bill Gates represents normal humanity.Jul 21 01:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] having !Ubuntu on my netbook so i get to eat gelatta at !Ubuntu Hour with ralph, darcy, bob and loriJul 21 01:59
_Goblinof course there are always "good guys" that defy normality but the human animal by default is greedy teritorial and sly.Jul 21 01:59
_Goblinheres a question for you.......Jul 21 01:59
twitterThat is a Judeo Christian way of looking at human nature.Jul 21 02:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @sin24horas: Julian Assange, propietario de Wikileaks, envía mensaje a RD y conversa por horas con Fernando Hasbún y Alicia Ortega. M ...Jul 21 02:00
twitterthe Romans, for example, thought of men as inherently decent and caring but corrupted by social pressures.  Jul 21 02:00
_GoblinSay you coded an application and released it under GPL.  Now lets say I came along, rebranded it and stuffed it onto my hardware without abiding by the license.  What would you do?Jul 21 02:00
twitterare you distributing my software without publishing the source code?Jul 21 02:01
_Goblinyep....and Im not even crediting you at allJul 21 02:01
twitterare you making money with it?Jul 21 02:02
_Goblinyep. damn right and lots of it.Jul 21 02:02
_Goblinactually...Jul 21 02:02
_Goblinlets say no for this exampleJul 21 02:02
twitteram I easily able to tell and prove that you are doing all of this?Jul 21 02:02
_Goblinyep.Jul 21 02:02
_Goblinlets say its clear cutJul 21 02:02
twitterbut you are not making any money at it?  why are you doing it and who is paying for all of the devices?Jul 21 02:03
twitterit is hard for me to imagine a real world example of hardware dumpingJul 21 02:04
twitterwhat does the device do and what are people using them for?Jul 21 02:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Harvard Internet hero arrested. Keep fighting Mr. Swartz, history is on your your side http://t.co/VJRADgaJul 21 02:05
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_Goblinok lets say Ive taken your app and taken full credit for it without money merely for an ego tripJul 21 02:05
_GoblinIm going about saying "hey this app, I made this, I'm a l337 coder"Jul 21 02:06
twitterand you are distributing it how?Jul 21 02:06
_Goblin(for purposes of IRC logs this is a hypothetical scenario for a discussion)Jul 21 02:06
_Goblinits on bittorrent its on usenet, its even been put onto a LinuxFormat disk as being my work.Jul 21 02:07
_GoblinI am getting quite the reputation of being a l337 coder on the back of your work.Jul 21 02:07
twitterplagiarism is despicable and silly, but I'd have to be sure you were malicious and want to talk to you about it.Jul 21 02:08
_Goblinok...lets say all attempts you make to contact me have been ignored.Jul 21 02:08
twittertypical slimeJul 21 02:08
_Goblinok.Jul 21 02:08
_GoblinHow would you feel?Jul 21 02:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] and they blame #opensource developers for using bad naming? #theSteve added Launch Pad, Mission Control and Air Drop?! WTF does that mean?Jul 21 02:09
twitternot so greatJul 21 02:09
_Goblinnow lets say whilst I am making no money off your app, the people who were donating to your project stop.  They think I coded the app not you.Jul 21 02:09
twitterI'd have to talk to a lawyer, but I'd like to have you stop.  Jul 21 02:09
_Goblinthanks....Jul 21 02:10
twitterCopyright gives me all the tools I need to do that but I'd hate to have to use them, so I'd chat with you.Jul 21 02:10
_Goblinand its been a rather leading example (but no rudeness is intended)Jul 21 02:10
_Goblinbut then surely you must not have an issue with copyright and in particular allegations of IP infringement?Jul 21 02:11
twitterIf you did not chat with my lawyer, bad things could happen but the aim would be to fix the problem.Jul 21 02:11
twitterthere is no such thing as IPJul 21 02:11
twitterand I have lots of issues with copyrightJul 21 02:11
_Goblinbut you are happy to faciliate it when it affects you?Jul 21 02:12
_Goblinor not happy.....but you know what I meanJul 21 02:12
twitterI'm happy to use the law when your actions might otherwise screw me and other people using my code.Jul 21 02:12
_Goblinso then copyright is a good thing?Jul 21 02:13
twitterPlagerism is bad and what you might do next with my work is bad.Jul 21 02:13
twitterSharing is good, so I don't really mind that you published my code.Jul 21 02:14
_Goblin"I'm happy to use the law when your actions might otherwise screw me" - Isn't that a fair assesment on the Movie industries view of piracy?Jul 21 02:14
twitterNo, it is not.Jul 21 02:14
_Goblinbut then its on your terms?Jul 21 02:14
twitterno "pirate" will be able to claim ownership or authorship of a Hollywood movie.Jul 21 02:14
_Goblinno but the point was....Jul 21 02:15
_Goblinmaterial is released by the creator/owner whatever you wish to call them.  They release it under their terms, if those terms are broken then theres a problem...Jul 21 02:15
_Goblinwhether thats GPL or anything else.Jul 21 02:15
twittermy point was about plagiarism and what you might do next with my code.  it's also about you stripping the freedom away from my other wise free users.Jul 21 02:16
twitterthe GPL hijacks the power of copyright to give users software freedomJul 21 02:16
_Goblinbut then "what I might do next with your code" is a freedom is it not? Surely you shouldn't care?Jul 21 02:16
twitterif you rob my users of software freedom, I have an issue with what you have doneJul 21 02:16
_Goblinbut they are not your users......Jul 21 02:17
_Goblinfreedom, remember.......Jul 21 02:17
twitterthey are my neighbors and you would use my work to strip them of software freedomJul 21 02:17
twitterI have been generous with my work and can use the law to stop your anti-social actionsJul 21 02:18
_Goblinwhat by taking credit for your code? - You are still writing the software, I'm just taking the credit and taking the control away from you.Jul 21 02:18
_Goblinif you want to call them "your users" they are not loosing out at all.....I'm merely rebranding your work for my own ego.Jul 21 02:18
twitterif you don't publish the source you are taking control from all of the software's usersJul 21 02:18
_Goblinand thats the problem...Jul 21 02:19
twitteryou could also slip malware into itJul 21 02:19
_GoblinI could, but then so could you....how many of your users would be coders?Jul 21 02:19
_Goblinand this is the problem....Jul 21 02:19
_Goblinthe src is useless to 99.9% of the people using your software, it means nothing....I could be written in Klingon, they wouldn't understand it.Jul 21 02:20
twittersoftware freedom is the only effective way to combat malwareJul 21 02:20
twitterand it is the only way to be sure people's computers can do what they want them to doJul 21 02:20
_Goblinnot really....not matter what exists there are always gullable users.....theres no protection against malware for them.Jul 21 02:21
twitterof course there isJul 21 02:21
twitterthere's everyone else and reputationJul 21 02:21
_Goblinso that rogue app can never get on any users machine?Jul 21 02:21
twitteryour sourceless version of my code deserves no useJul 21 02:21
_Goblinof course it can.  there are people who blindly install softwareJul 21 02:22
twitterthat's another problem, people don't understand the nature of softwareJul 21 02:22
_Goblinand thats why you will never remove malwareJul 21 02:22
twitterbut we do, so we can see the difference between my use of copyright and hollywood's Jul 21 02:22
_Goblinthe ethos is the same - "This is mine.  Its released under my rules"Jul 21 02:23
twitterand eventually everyone else will understand what we do, unless you think you are especially cleverJul 21 02:23
twitterHollywood and FSF ethics are about as divergent as ethics can beJul 21 02:23
_Goblinreally? So the GPL is not a set of rules?Jul 21 02:24
_Goblinyou've already said you would get a lawyer if I didn't talk to youJul 21 02:24
twitterthe GPL is a set of rules which gives lawyers freedomJul 21 02:24
_Goblin(again, for the purposes of Trolls, this is hypothetical for a debate)Jul 21 02:24
twitterhollwood creates rules to strip users of freedomJul 21 02:25
_Goblinfreedom as decreed by you.Jul 21 02:25
twitterthe FSF treats people as peers and equalsJul 21 02:25
_Goblinpersonally I think true freedom is where you release something and say "Do what the hell you like with it, i don't care"Jul 21 02:25
_Goblinthats true freedomJul 21 02:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] feels like #theSteve is aiming for the stars with the new naming.Jul 21 02:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Looking forward to hearing Thorkil Sonne speak at "Ideas for a better world". FOSS should be in the equation. #fb http://ur1.ca/4qyqxJul 21 02:25
twitterHollywood treats them as exploitation targets Jul 21 02:25
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twitterThere are four software freedoms.  If you don't have them, you don't own your computer. Jul 21 02:26
_Goblinwe never own anything anyway.Jul 21 02:26
_Goblinnot really.Jul 21 02:26
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_GoblinTake the car....You buy a car, sell it at a loss, buy a new one.... effectively renting cars for your whole life.Jul 21 02:26
twitterSoftware and cars are not the same things.Jul 21 02:27
_GoblinI owned a vast collection of PD on the A500.....Jul 21 02:27
_Goblinwhere is that now?Jul 21 02:27
twitterwhat is PD?Jul 21 02:27
_Goblinpublic domainJul 21 02:27
twitterwhat is the A500?Jul 21 02:28
_Goblinand its all dead...obsolete software for a dead platform.Jul 21 02:28
_Goblinamiga 500Jul 21 02:28
twitterI imagine that you have the source code for your public domain softwareJul 21 02:28
_Goblinoh yes, some of it...Jul 21 02:28
twitterand you could have ported the interesting parts if you wanted toJul 21 02:28
twitterSo, I'd say you have all of it that you cared to keep.Jul 21 02:29
_Goblinyou could have...much as I was a keen 68k coder, I find the idea of porting it rather less favorable.Jul 21 02:29
_Goblinlet me know when I can read a 3.5" Amiga floppy in a PC floppy controller.Jul 21 02:30
_Goblin*withJul 21 02:30
twitterI saw a perl script for decoding programs stored on cassette tape Jul 21 02:31
_Goblin"and you could have ported the interesting parts if you wanted to" - An interesting point since I wrote a few pieces of code with Devpac 2 courtesy of UAE....although I'm not sure what importance a port of a copperbar routine I wrote in 1990 would have today,Jul 21 02:32
_Goblinah...I haven't even started on my spectrum tape libraryJul 21 02:32
twitterRichard Stallman was very sad when the PDP he worked with was pulled.  Part of the problem was that the machine itself was obsolete, another part was that the code was not portable, and a final problem was that not all of it was free software and could not be used even if the other two conditions did not apply.Jul 21 02:33
twitterA lack of freedom chokes everythingJul 21 02:34
_GoblinRMS is a great guy.  The FSF is a great ideology, but just as in real life, tech cannot be black and white......there are shades of grey.Jul 21 02:34
twitterthere are no shades of software freedom, you either have it or you don'tJul 21 02:35
_Goblinwell I have it.Jul 21 02:35
twittergood for youJul 21 02:35
_Goblinin that I choose what I want to use.Jul 21 02:35
_Goblinand yet I use proprietaryJul 21 02:35
_Goblina mishmash so to speak....Jul 21 02:35
_Goblinas I say, shades of grey.Jul 21 02:35
twittercan you run your non free software for any purpose?Jul 21 02:35
_Goblinany purpose that I require, yes.Jul 21 02:36
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_GoblinIm always going to choose the best option for me....Jul 21 02:36
_Goblinbe it FOSS or proprietaryJul 21 02:36
twitterthat's not true, non free software owners reserve the right to terminate your use of their software at any time for any reasonJul 21 02:36
_Goblinthats true when/if that happens I'll reassess.Jul 21 02:36
twitterwhy give others that power over you?Jul 21 02:37
_GoblinIm not going to intentionally hobble my computing experience on an ideal or a fear that something might happen.  I choose the best options for me....Jul 21 02:37
_Goblinthey don't have any power over me.Jul 21 02:37
twitterif you can't use the software for any purpose it can't be the best option for youJul 21 02:37
_Goblinwhy? I can use it for any purpose I require.Jul 21 02:38
_GoblinIm sorry, but Im not basing my choices over things that don't effect me..Jul 21 02:38
_Goblinwhen they do, I'll change.Jul 21 02:38
twitterI can think of two concrete examplesJul 21 02:38
_Goblingo for it.Jul 21 02:39
twitterMedia players on Windows obey the broadcast flag and won't record shows that users want.Jul 21 02:39
_Goblinright.....Jul 21 02:39
twitterThose media players can not be the best choice for anyone.Jul 21 02:39
_GoblinI use Linux though....that doesn't effect me...Jul 21 02:40
_Goblinand its up to people to show what they could have instead.Jul 21 02:40
twitterit did effect you because digital handcuffs have been put into the hardware itselfJul 21 02:40
_GoblinI don't worry about what others choose, I merely highlight my choices.Jul 21 02:40
_Goblinno it doesn't effect me, I haven't chosen it.Jul 21 02:40
_GoblinfreedomJul 21 02:40
twitterthat must mean you have no desire to own a collection of high definition mediaJul 21 02:41
_Goblinno. I choose BluRay for that.Jul 21 02:41
twitterand that you don't care that only a few favored people will be able to manipulate HD and use it for their purposesJul 21 02:41
_Goblinyou have very little faith in the real rulers here....its not the media producers, its the consumer.Jul 21 02:42
_Goblinif people don't buy, they don't make.Jul 21 02:42
twitterthat kind of control is control over public discourse Jul 21 02:42
twitteronly a favored few will be able to show the public images of their choosing Jul 21 02:43
_Goblinnot at all..... I didn't see a brainwashed or forced public chomp up blurayJul 21 02:43
_Goblina favoured few?Jul 21 02:43
twitterpeople who are allowed to publish blue rayJul 21 02:43
_Goblinbut there are so many delivery methods...Jul 21 02:43
twitterpeople who are allowed to take images made popular by broadcast and use them for their own purposes Jul 21 02:44
_Goblininfact BluRay is probably not the best choice....you have material to release? You are better off looking for a streaming solution.Jul 21 02:44
twitterthose favored few have tremendous power over the rest of usJul 21 02:44
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_Goblindo they?Jul 21 02:44
_Goblinhow is that?Jul 21 02:44
twitterwhy yes they doJul 21 02:44
_Goblinlet me know how Harry Potter BluRay has any power over people.Jul 21 02:45
twitterthat one is easyJul 21 02:45
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_Goblinlet me know when Harry Potter is life or death for people to own.....Jul 21 02:45
twitterthe people at Democracy Now, for example, will never be able to use Harry Potter images to make a point Jul 21 02:45
_Goblinstop the world I want to get off.Jul 21 02:46
_Goblinso?Jul 21 02:46
_Goblinhow about.....Jul 21 02:46
twitterIt's not life or death, it's the ability to create images and exploit themJul 21 02:46
_Goblinpeople get creative and make their own then?Jul 21 02:46
_Goblinwhy should they rely on a hollywood images to make their point?Jul 21 02:46
twitterthey can, but broadcast has created a concentration of power through unjust ownership of spectrumJul 21 02:46
_GoblinI see no evidence there at all....I see them feeding a demand to the consumer.Jul 21 02:47
twitterit's not a matter of relying on others, it's a matter of others having power to work with the public imagination that you and I do not haveJul 21 02:47
_Goblinyour argument is not so much with the industry its with the people who consume it.....Jul 21 02:47
twitterthose with that power can take advantage of public resonance Jul 21 02:48
_Goblinand going back to my original point.....humans are greedy.Jul 21 02:48
_Goblinyes, but if anything its failed.Jul 21 02:48
twittersome people are greedy and selfish, others are notJul 21 02:48
_GoblinHarry Potter (for example) was merely shared....Jul 21 02:48
_Goblinit seems to me Hollywood have very little power.Jul 21 02:48
twitterYes, people have shared that, but the images you now have stamped in your head can only be used in a persuasive manner by a few people.Jul 21 02:49
twitterThat is tremendous power.Jul 21 02:49
_Goblinbut thats the choice of the owner, just as in my example you didn't want me taking your code.Jul 21 02:49
twitterNo, there is fair use of both code and other works. Jul 21 02:50
_Goblinbecause you effectively told me that if I released your code, taking credit for it and not abiding by its license, you would get a lawyer.Jul 21 02:50
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twitterMost political statements fall under fair use. Jul 21 02:50
twitterand we all know who made Harry PotterJul 21 02:50
_Goblinbut you are applying US laws here to the UK.Jul 21 02:51
_Goblinand define "fair use"Jul 21 02:51
twitteryou are trying to crimp my ethics with lawsJul 21 02:51
twitteryou are avoiding the pointJul 21 02:51
_GoblinI personally think it fair to take your code and rebrand it as my own.....Jul 21 02:51
_Goblinno im not, first time Ive mentioned lawJul 21 02:52
_Goblinand that was over your "fair use" comment.Jul 21 02:52
_Goblinso...Jul 21 02:52
_Goblindefine fair useJul 21 02:52
twitterMy use of a few clips of Harry Potter or even my own recreation of the images to make a political point would hardly constitute the plagiarism you advocate Jul 21 02:53
_Goblinsurely isn't a freedom, freedom to a dev to release works in whatever way they want?Jul 21 02:53
_Goblinwhy are you telling me that as a dev I shouldn't produce works the way I want to?Jul 21 02:53
_Goblinsurely thats taking away my freedom.Jul 21 02:54
twitterYou don't want freedom, you want state protection .Jul 21 02:54
_Goblinno....I want the freedom to release my material in whichever way I want.Jul 21 02:54
_Goblinif the consumer doesn't like those rules then they don't consume.Jul 21 02:55
twitteryou want license to plagiarize Jul 21 02:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Sweden, no longer an independent nation http://t.co/ur3Q3zVJul 21 02:55
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_Goblinno....the point I am making is that in the battle to get software freedom, the freedoms of the dev are seemingly pushed aside.Jul 21 02:55
_Goblinas, I stated if the dev wants to release their work to only people who wear a red hat and wellies whilst using it....thats their choice.Jul 21 02:56
_Goblinand more importantly, thats their freedom.Jul 21 02:56
twitterNo one would keep you from writing your own non free software Jul 21 02:56
_Goblinbut then why are comment made such as "Not owning machine"Jul 21 02:57
twitterI would tell people not to use it because it strips them of software freedomJul 21 02:57
_Goblinbut it doesn't.Jul 21 02:57
_Goblinits what us Linux users have said for years in the face of 1000's of distros....Jul 21 02:57
_Goblinfreedom of choice.Jul 21 02:57
twitterbecause people who don't have the four software freedoms have surrendered control of their computers to someone elseJul 21 02:57
_GoblinIf you say to someone "dont use that..." you are stripping them of a freedom no matter how good your intention is.Jul 21 02:58
twitterYou would surrender the control of your computer for a few unnamed purposes you have. Jul 21 02:58
_Goblinok....lets take a different idea.Jul 21 02:58
_Goblinyou own a car?Jul 21 02:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] RT @nj3ma @icekarim Campaign, "Have you HURD",there is brand communicationness in me after all.Jul 21 02:59
twitterI'm telling you that surrendering control of your computer to others is a bad idea.  It has nothing to do with cars. Jul 21 02:59
_GoblinI asked you, do you own a car?Jul 21 02:59
twitterthough surrendering control of your car to insurance companies is a bad idea tooJul 21 02:59
twitterI own several cars but they are uninteresting Jul 21 02:59
_Goblinthis is going to be like the cashpoint challenge you wouldn't answer me on.Jul 21 02:59
_Goblinright....Jul 21 02:59
_Goblinso you can replace the engine?Jul 21 02:59
twitteryesJul 21 03:00
_Goblinyou can fit a flywheel?Jul 21 03:00
twitteryesJul 21 03:00
_Goblinand you expect everyone else too?Jul 21 03:00
_Goblinor....Jul 21 03:00
twitterI expect competent mechanics to do so in exchange for moneyJul 21 03:00
_Goblindo they surrender control to whichever garage to do those jobs for them.Jul 21 03:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] The human paradox that is common sense http://bit.ly/pBX0Xc /via @zaibatsu @newscientistJul 21 03:00
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_Goblinbut how do you know that they are not conning you or fitting parts which will break your car later costing you money?Jul 21 03:01
twittersomeone else changing my engine won't keep me from going where I want toJul 21 03:01
_Goblin(in relation to your malware comments)Jul 21 03:01
twittera car is not like a computerJul 21 03:01
_Goblinof course its not, but we are considering the principle of freedom here.Jul 21 03:01
twitterso this comparison is stupidJul 21 03:01
_Goblinyes we had this when I challenged you over the cashpoint machine and POS terminals being closed src.Jul 21 03:02
twitterif you want to talk about software freedom, tell me what features are worth the surrender of your privacy and control of your computer?Jul 21 03:02
_Goblinwhen, as I recall you stated you would not use proprietary/closed src.Jul 21 03:02
twitterwhat non free software do you use on the computer you are typing on ? Jul 21 03:03
_Goblingfx drivers Jul 21 03:03
_Goblincouple of codecsJul 21 03:03
_Goblinamiga romsJul 21 03:03
_Goblinworkbench 1.3Jul 21 03:03
twitteryou are typing on an amiga?Jul 21 03:03
_GoblinDevPac2Jul 21 03:03
_GoblinnoJul 21 03:03
twitteryou have ATI video card?Jul 21 03:03
_GoblinI haven't finsihed.Jul 21 03:03
_GoblinDropboxJul 21 03:04
twitterI only need one.Jul 21 03:04
_GoblinSkypeJul 21 03:04
_GoblinIve got more.....Jul 21 03:04
twitterYou have Skype on the computer you are using right now?Jul 21 03:04
_GoblinyepJul 21 03:04
twitterThat one is a good one.Jul 21 03:04
twitterDo you keep that computer on all the time?Jul 21 03:04
_GoblinyeoJul 21 03:05
_Goblinyep Jul 21 03:05
twitterWhere is it?Jul 21 03:05
_GoblinhoweverJul 21 03:05
_Goblinall the time - is only when I am likely to use it.....Jul 21 03:05
_Goblinits in the bedroomJul 21 03:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Had preliminary discussion with @bkuhn about evolving meaning of #heehaw today.Jul 21 03:05
twitterSo, you turn the computer off mostly?Jul 21 03:05
_Goblinit depends....theres been periods of days when its on and periods of days when its off.Jul 21 03:06
twitterWouldn't it be better if you could trust it and leave it on all the time like a normal phone?Jul 21 03:06
_Goblinno.. I do trust it and can leave it on if I wished....I dont. Jul 21 03:06
_Goblinthere was once where I was helping seed Sabayon and left it running for 5 days....I had no issue with that.Jul 21 03:07
twitterYou know that Skype's owners can monitor everything your web cam can see and your microphone can hear?Jul 21 03:07
_Goblinthey would have a job with mine.Jul 21 03:08
_Goblinfor many reasons.....Jul 21 03:08
_Goblinfirstly I don't have a webcam plugged in.Jul 21 03:08
_Goblinsecondly my mic is used by the wife and is only plugged in for the techbytes showJul 21 03:08
twitterwouldn't it be better if you could leave the webcam plugged in?Jul 21 03:09
_Goblinand finally I only run Skype if I am wisihing to speak with someone....Jul 21 03:09
_GoblinI can....Jul 21 03:09
_Goblinif I had one to plug inJul 21 03:09
twitterThe problem with non free software is that it can be running with or without you knowing.Jul 21 03:09
_Goblinso you are telling me.....Jul 21 03:09
twitterlet's imagine you have a web came you could plug inJul 21 03:10
_Goblinout of the millions of Skype users, not only is Microsoft breaking the law and risking damage to its rep, but its going to pinpoint me out of all those billions and watch my webcam.Jul 21 03:10
twitterI'm telling you that your are better off with free softwareJul 21 03:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Timing of the INTERPOL Red Notice and European Arrest Warrant against Assange http://t.co/U6cIKINJul 21 03:10
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_Goblinright....Jul 21 03:11
twitterYour run Bytes Media and you don't think Microsoft would like to embarrass you?Jul 21 03:11
_Goblinso I should replace skype because you've told me Microsoft can look through my webcam?Jul 21 03:11
_Goblinand no twitter.Jul 21 03:11
twitterYou should replace all of your non free software so that no one can look through your web cam. Jul 21 03:12
_GoblinMicrosoft would not risk criminal liability and pr damage merely to attack in that way a small audiocast.Jul 21 03:12
twitterhow do you know their intent?  Jul 21 03:12
_GoblinIm not sure about US, but in UK we have the Computer Misuse ActJul 21 03:12
_Goblinalso that would fall under numerous other laws too.Jul 21 03:13
twitterespecially when you think that people are all nasty and greedyJul 21 03:13
_Goblinand how do we know that there are not Aliens in area 51 and the world will end tomorrow?Jul 21 03:13
_Goblinintent......Jul 21 03:13
twitterthe point is to protect your self from that kind of malice by not giving other people the ability to do you harmJul 21 03:13
_Goblinunless.....Jul 21 03:13
_GoblinMicrosoft paid the devs of Sabayon so that malicous software could be implanted to further spy and embarass its users.....Jul 21 03:14
_Goblin(of course thats a joke)Jul 21 03:14
_Goblinwe can see monsters in every shadow.Jul 21 03:14
_Goblinand the Sabayon example is just as far fetched as a Skype on.Jul 21 03:15
twitterMicrosoft did pay developers at Novell but we must assume good faith unless we see otherwiseJul 21 03:15
twitterSkype is non free software, it can contain anything and police have used it to spy on users.Jul 21 03:15
_Goblinrubbish.Jul 21 03:15
twitterhow so?Jul 21 03:15
_Goblinin no other ways than any other medium has been used.Jul 21 03:16
_Goblinits called a court orderJul 21 03:16
twitterlolJul 21 03:16
twitterSee the Bing Sting as an example of what Microsoft does with their power over users.Jul 21 03:16
_Goblinso twitter you know all about Rippr policy do you?Jul 21 03:16
twitterthey keylogged people's searches Jul 21 03:17
_Goblininfact we are bringing to account one of the wealthiest men for allegations of just that.Jul 21 03:17
_GoblinHe's called Mr Murdoch you may have heard of him.Jul 21 03:17
_GoblinI'd say covert and overt survellance are very well legislated for in the UK.Jul 21 03:18
_GoblinSkype cannot be used by any agency any "easier" than any other method.Jul 21 03:18
twitteryour computer does not have to be like the phone system, unless you give control over it to non free softwareJul 21 03:18
twitterhttp://www.mattcutts.com/blog/google-bing/Jul 21 03:18
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_Goblinjust because its closed src doesn't mean that makes it excempt from UK laws.Jul 21 03:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Saw #MidnightInParis. Reaction: Kurt #Fuller #coffee ∀ #SABJul 21 03:19
twitterMicrosoft breaks laws when they don't think they will be caught Jul 21 03:19
twitternow they own SkypeJul 21 03:19
_Goblinso?Jul 21 03:19
_Goblinif they change the service to something I don't like, I exercise my freedom to choose and go somewhere else.Jul 21 03:19
twittergo look at the screen shots I just provided you from Mr CuttsJul 21 03:20
twitterthey won't tell you they are doing it, they will simply do it.Jul 21 03:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] great to see Ashoka Fellows partnering with SIF.org.sg.Jul 21 03:20
_Goblinyes that is a pretty old story.Jul 21 03:20
twitterthey can listen to every word you say near your bedroom, transcribe it and use it against youJul 21 03:20
_GoblinThe better example would have been the Plurk/Juku case, but then its not up to me to help you with your justification.Jul 21 03:21
twitterwhy would you give them that power?Jul 21 03:21
_Goblinhang on....Jul 21 03:21
_Goblinlol...Jul 21 03:21
_Goblinyou got me.Jul 21 03:21
twitterOn Star is a good example too, but you don't have OnStar you have SkypeJul 21 03:21
_Goblinfair playJul 21 03:21
_GoblinGoing back though to survellance, it raises an interesting point about SIP.Jul 21 03:22
_GoblinI would wager it would be far easier to get a court order for snooping by an agency....Jul 21 03:23
_Goblinand there is no "middleman" so to speak.Jul 21 03:23
_Goblinand you have a wealth of users who have complete confidence in its privacy because its opensource.Jul 21 03:24
twitterIf the ends are encrypted and no one has violated your house of computer, the confidence is well placed. Jul 21 03:24
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twitterthe point I'm trying to make is that any non free software can slip in monitoring software without telling youJul 21 03:28
twitterI'm not telling you can't use it, just that you should be aware of it and treat it accordingly. Jul 21 03:28
Ziomatrixtwitter: true, but so can open source software while hiding its where abouts in the ToS and anyone will to proke around in it.Jul 21 03:30
Ziomatrixtwitter: the advantage for open source is the ability for anyone finding an exploit and not being under legal pressure to keep it a secret.Jul 21 03:30
twitterI lived for a year away from my wife and kids when I took a job.  I used skpe because there were no free alternatives that I could set up in a reasonable time frame.  Jul 21 03:31
twitterI installed it on a dedicated computer and treated it like any other phone, as a potential spy.Jul 21 03:31
twitterin fact, there are better laws regulating actual phones than SIP, and non free software is much easier to use in an abusive wayJul 21 03:32
twitterI don't resent free software developers for the lack of this useful software, I resent the non free software companies that have done so much to keep them from solving the problem.Jul 21 03:33
twitterfrom patents on codecs, collusion with hardware OEMs to what Microsoft just did with Skype.Jul 21 03:33
twitterThere are legal and technical barriers to every aspect of video phones.  Jul 21 03:34
twitterI hate the people who would force on others the choice I faced.Jul 21 03:34
twitterThe choice was, "Give us control of your computer or do without video phones."Jul 21 03:35
twitterI have not tried Google hangouts yet.  I'm hoping it works with all free software. Jul 21 03:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] http://blogs.forbes.com/timothylee/2011/07/20/aaron-swartzs-reckless-activism/ @timberners_lee on the #AaronSwartz case: "Reckless Activism"Jul 21 03:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] 1% of most populations are ASD (Autism Spectrum Disorder) #sifJul 21 03:37
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Ziomatrixtwitter: not all non-free software companies are bad, take Opera for example they comply with all WC3 standards and have pioneered in features the Mozilla team picked up later.Jul 21 03:37
twitterall non free software gives the owners control over you they should not haveJul 21 03:38
Ziomatrixtwitter: there is a difference between a good business that sells based on the innovative usefulness of their product versus one that keeps their cashflow with license extortion through patents or leveraging their dominance. Jul 21 03:39
twitterthere is no difference in the power either has over youJul 21 03:39
Ziomatrixtwitter: some people don't really know or care to know how to find out. There are certainly some non-devs that feel more comfortable knowing but for many customers they can care less.Jul 21 03:39
Ziomatrixtwitter: its a choice one makes as a customerJul 21 03:40
twitteryou can say there are comfortable slaves and you can say you would be comfortable that way but you should look to the worst examples and ask what that does to society and if you would be comfortable with that happening to youJul 21 03:41
Ziomatrixtwitter: hence why boycottnovell was initiated to notify folks and give them a clear choice to avoid a product or service due to who owns it.Jul 21 03:41
twitterI don't think you have a clear idea of the social implications of widespread non free software useJul 21 03:41
Ziomatrixtwitter: some folks simply don't have the skill or the time to know. You can't expect to gain trust and agreement through blaming others for their shortcomings.Jul 21 03:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] Cancer causes cell phones http://xkcd.com/925/ And, as we all know, exposure to science causes cancer in lab rats.Jul 21 03:42
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Ziomatrixtwitter: the best thing to do is notify those who don't know or have the means to do so themselves in order to steer them in the right direction. That is what schestowitz among others do and admirably too.Jul 21 03:42
twitterIt's a matter of everyone being better off in a free society, not people's "short comings" Jul 21 03:43
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twitterthe best I can do is tell you the kinds of things non free software can do to you.Jul 21 03:43
_Goblintwitter: Sorry mate I was disconnect and machine resetJul 21 03:43
twitterI'm sorry that happened to you.Jul 21 03:44
Ziomatrixtwitter: a business accepting their product to be developed under GPL is their choice alone. If they have been and their customers feel they have been ethical enough regardless who is to complain.Jul 21 03:44
_GoblinI went for a smoke and ive missed everything since my last postJul 21 03:44
_Goblintwitter: let me leave you with this as its very late...Jul 21 03:44
twitter*** twitter is looking at at least one CT of lung cancer ...Jul 21 03:45
Ziomatrixtwitter: but even if you do it will simply get people to question non-GPLd software, but if the companies involved assure them they have done nothing ethically wrong from creating backdoors to installing malware why would they still be concerned?Jul 21 03:45
_Goblinactually no...its not fair...I'll continue tomorrow...Jul 21 03:45
_Goblinvery tired...Jul 21 03:45
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twitterit was nice talking to you _GoblinJul 21 03:45
twitterMy favorite example is Martin Luther King Jr.  Imagine what the FBI could have done to him with non free software and social networksJul 21 03:47
twitterThe FBI phone tapped him, bugged his rooms, sent him tapes and offered him suicide before they finally murdered him.Jul 21 03:47
twitterHad they seen his stuff on Twitter of Facebook, they would have screwed him over at a much younger age.Jul 21 03:48
twitterHad he been a Microsoft user, they would have every key he typed.Jul 21 03:48
twitterall of his private correspondence Jul 21 03:48
twitterThey probably would have nipped him in the bud, before he got his PhD and a large enough following to matter. Jul 21 03:49
twitterI have read of several activists who have been jailed unjustly.  I wonder how many more have been nipped in the bud.Jul 21 03:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @sin24horas: El primer canal de televisión en el mundo que recibe todos los cables de Wikileaks es Noticias SIN. A las 11 pm por Ante ...Jul 21 03:50
Ziomatrixtwitter: that has to do just as much with the collusion and beneficiary of having a government who sees benefit in large corporations. Its the same way on how they permitted AT&T to operate as monopoly during the height of the Cold War, broke it up and now are permitting companies to merge again for the sake of taking advantage of globalization. Jul 21 03:50
Ziomatrixtwitter: well you just have to blame those people for not using Linux or some operating system who's parent company is not so close to the government in question.Jul 21 03:51
twitterI don't want to blame users, I want to educate them.Jul 21 03:52
twitterNon free software always gives unjust power over users to the software owners.  Jul 21 03:52
twitterOn that basis alone, people should reject it.Jul 21 03:52
twitterThat power, exercised over many and concentrated in the hands of a few people, is very bad for society. Jul 21 03:53
Ziomatrixtwitter: non-free software though so far as an advantage of gathering capital quicker by investors figuring the those involved have a virtual monopoly on the product for a set amount of time and have mostly payed developers who work on a schedule.Jul 21 03:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @royongbg http://mcys.gov.sg - doesn't work ... http://www.mcys.gov.sg works ... sigh, do we really need the WWW? #fbJul 21 03:54
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Ziomatrixtwitter: sometimes perception can be as strong or if not define the reality, just check out this Opera discussion: http://bit.ly/UWgiiJul 21 03:54
twitternon free software owners are not interested in software, they are interested in power, so they spend their money on other thingsJul 21 03:54
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Ziomatrixtwitter: typically most software sold is tied to some kind of business model, if it does not happen to be based on advertising or gathering user information then the company has to figure out how to turn around a quick profit.Jul 21 03:55
twittermost of the software I use has nothing to do with what you are talking aboutJul 21 03:56
twitterChromium Browser is probably the closest think I can think of, but most free software code bases are dominated by community contributions Jul 21 03:57
Ziomatrixtwitter: but there are certainly many that are which are found in enterprise and low level academics.Jul 21 03:57
twitterI'm not interested in how someone might like to make a living with non free softwareJul 21 03:57
twitterMost "enterprise" software is a matter of making general tools do a specific job.  Most programming jobs are like that.  Free software works best in that situation. Jul 21 03:58
twitterif you want to be "practical" about itJul 21 03:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] why doesn't the ThinkPad Tablet use an Atom? it would be so much more useful for business if it can run regular software.Jul 21 03:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] https://img.skitch.com/20110721-d8xssi8y6au4nwyqegad5banh1.png #heehaw (h/t @segphault )Jul 21 03:59
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twitterthe value proposition of free software is always better than the value of non free softwareJul 21 03:59
twitterthat's why Google, IBM, Yahoo, Facebook and everyone else uses free softwareJul 21 03:59
twitterthey get the immediate ability to copy it and make it work for their needsJul 21 04:00
Ziomatrixtwitter: but there are still others out there that choose not to and still cooperate with open standards such as Opera, mIRC and any freeware you find on sourceforge.Jul 21 04:00
twitterthe strings only are felt if they want to distribute the software and then there's not much of a burden thereJul 21 04:00
Ziomatrixtwitter: true, but thats if they follow the latest GPL, some preffer MIT.Jul 21 04:01
twitterWhy would I use Opera and put my computer under the control of Opera's owners?Jul 21 04:01
twitterI've got four or five excellent free browsers. Jul 21 04:01
twitterMIT creates a tragedy of the commons, not a stable business environment like the GPL does.  The only people who prefer MIT are those who want to exercise some kind of power over others later and those who have not thought through the issue well enough.Jul 21 04:02
Ziomatrixtwitter: and how are they excellent? Do they have tabs, private browsing, low bandwidth modes? All those features pioneered by a non-open source company who doesn't see a problem with others eventually adopting their features?Jul 21 04:03
Ziomatrixtwitter: ethics come down to the people who make up the business, not the license they're under.Jul 21 04:03
twitterpeople chose licenses for a purpose, non free licenses are designed to exercise power over othersJul 21 04:04
Ziomatrixtwitter: or have control over the products they have if they don't want to see it forked or rely on communities that even though can detect and turn out updates quickly are usually more timely when it comes to creating new software.Jul 21 04:05
twitterI'm not going to give up my software freedom and control of my computer for a browser that might have something nifty but unimportant featureJul 21 04:06
twitterMIT is forked all the time.  It's also taken non free.  Why would I want to do that?Jul 21 04:06
Ziomatrixtwitter: and that is your perfectly valid choice, just don't be so surprised or vehemently against those that don't choose that? MIT is an example of a looser license and one that leaves more choice to the developer as apposed to GPL which is quit finite. Jul 21 04:07
twitterI'm always surprised when people contribute code to software that can be taken non free.Jul 21 04:09
Ziomatrixtwitter: some devs choose different timetables for releasing source code. Its all a matter of choice including your's when you use it. After what Sony did with OtherOS I don't want to use another product of their's again. But what about the ones I already have, should I just throw them away?Jul 21 04:09
twitterI suggest you work to control the device you own or throw it awayJul 21 04:10
twitterI see old PS3s at the flea market and am tempted to see if I can't make it a nice, free debian system.Jul 21 04:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] 1. Misunderstand and distort quantum physics 2. Attach to your metaphysics 3. Write book 4. Profit! http://ur1.ca/4qz7f /via @jcsesecunetaJul 21 04:10
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twitterfor $15, I might try.Jul 21 04:10
twitterbut I've generally got other, more pressing things to do.Jul 21 04:11
Ziomatrixtwitter: trust me its worth now since they managed to crack the Hypervisor so it has full GPU access now if you can install the custom CFI :-)Jul 21 04:11
Ziomatrixtwitter: I doubt you'll see a PS3 for $15 for some time. Anyway I'm off now and even though I don't completely agree with you I appreciate your honesty behind the principle. Jul 21 04:12
Ziomatrixand commend you for itJul 21 04:12
twitterthanks, it was nice chattingJul 21 04:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] software landscape is at war. the clashing armies are led by General Public License and General Protection Fault !fsJul 21 05:37
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DaemonFChttp://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/blogpost/post/straight-man-turned-away-from-indiana-blood-center-because-he-lookedgay/2011/07/19/gIQAhJ5vNI_blog.htmlJul 21 05:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @lincoln: motivar diálogo sobre sw livre só através de questões técnicas é perigoso!Jul 21 05:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @terceiro: Intellectual Freedom, by PHD Comics: http://ur1.ca/4qw41 /cc @islene @jorgestolfiJul 21 05:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ Você gostaria de ver a @revistaespiritolivre publicada em outro idioma? ajude votando no Prêmio Frida: http://va.mu/CO0yJul 21 06:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] In support of Aaron Swartz: Entire public domain back catalog of the Royal Society papers has been liberated from JSTOR http://redd.it/ivjaxJul 21 06:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @cer geocities, AOL, MySpace have all fallen by the wayside, can anything resist !parlementum?Jul 21 06:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] only 8% ? @keteJul 21 06:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !Inconstant Moon: Thursday's serialization installment is online: http://ur1.ca/4qzxn !selfPubJul 21 06:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @failedvegan: Brendan Kehoe service http://is.gd/lA2oMM No flowers, please. Donations, if desired, to Educate Together http://is.gd/SrWqBpJul 21 06:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @forteller: Mozilla’s mission is to build user sovereignty into the fabric of the Internet. ur1.ca/4pdgs #autonomous #mozilla #firefoxJul 21 06:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Masnick: "...a more vindictive attack by the government for not liking Swartz and the way he goes about his activism" http://ur1.ca/4r00iJul 21 06:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Lack Of A Legal Or Moral Basis For The Aaron Swartz Indictment Is Quite Troubling | Techdirt .::. Size~: 117.59 KBJul 21 06:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Isn't it interesting that Mark #Zuckerberg is lauded, praised and immortalized in celluloid, while they drop the jail on Aaron #SwartzJul 21 06:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] good morning @sanderschJul 21 06:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @laurelrusswurm: Masnick: "vindictive attack by the govt for not liking Swartz and the way he goes about his activism" http://ur1.ca/4r00iJul 21 06:32
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Lack Of A Legal Or Moral Basis For The Aaron Swartz Indictment Is Quite Troubling | Techdirt .::. Size~: 120.36 KBJul 21 06:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] Wow, protocol relative URLs are interesting. "//my.host/path" goes within current http/s protocol. http://ur1.ca/4qr6f /via @maiki @mlinksvaJul 21 06:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] @lxoliva Makes me think about Captain Chaos and General Disarray from South Park.Jul 21 06:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] pirate software: a program that boards your navigator and takes control of it and your stuff. non-Free Flash, Java & JS webappsJul 21 06:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Marea manipulare: Clasa mijlocie nu va fi afectată de dispariţia statului social http://tinyurl.com/3bdt4ch #romania #bucurestiJul 21 06:58
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Marea manipulare IV: Clasa mijlocie nu va fi afectată de dispariţia statului social, propusă de Traian Băsescu dcnews.ro .::. Size~: 57.88 KBJul 21 06:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @lxoliva pirate software: a program that boards your navigator and takes control of it and your stuff. non-Free Flash, Java & JS webappsJul 21 07:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @haris !shared You Know What's Missing From The Aaron Swartz Indictment? Any Mention Of Copyright http://b1t.it/smBJul 21 07:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] cats aren't spoiled, they're worth it @sandersch :)Jul 21 07:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: You Know What's Missing From The Aaron Swartz Indictment? Any Mention Of Copyright | Techdirt .::. Size~: 145.32 KBJul 21 07:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] she's just working on getting you trained is all @jargon :)Jul 21 07:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] good night !IdentiverseJul 21 07:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Moving beyond #Microsoft http://www.zdnet.com/blog/bott/moving-beyond-microsoft/3575Jul 21 07:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @osamak Richard Stallman in !Palestine http://pfs-hatem.blogspot.com/2011/07/blog-post.html (In Arabic, but there are pictures) !fsfJul 21 07:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @gabrielsaldana ♻ @forteller Mozilla’s mission is to build user sovereignty into the fabric of the Internet. http://ur1.ca/4pdgsJul 21 07:05
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Moving beyond Microsoft | ZDNet .::. Size~: 147.69 KBJul 21 07:05
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Mozilla in the New Internet Era — More Than the Browser | Mitchell's Blog .::. Size~: 52.87 KBJul 21 07:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Proof Apollo-era Saturn V excessive fuel usage was due to giant balls of steel http://ur1.ca/4r0fp !scienceJul 21 07:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kernellogauthor/@kernellogauthor] #Linus: Note on #Linux 3.0 and the 3.1 merge window http://bit.ly/nZU4mK "[…]I'm planning on doing 3.0 tomorrow[…]] #kernelJul 21 07:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Fedora. Cinșpe. Linuxu’, nu pălăria http://tinyurl.com/6cr6hmf #gnu #linux #microsoft #windows #fedora #romania #desktopJul 21 07:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @wikileaks2 pro-Murdoch, anti-WikiLeaks propaganda from US gov Radio Liberty http://t.co/G74dHORJul 21 07:43
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Murdoch's Hacking Is Despicable, But Is WikiLeaks Any Better? - Radio Free Europe / Radio Liberty © 2011 .::. Size~: 86.14 KBJul 21 07:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Yahoo: la legge è uguale x tutti - http://bit.ly/oxYSyU "in materia di responsabilità degli intermediari della comunicazione" (v @mmasnick)Jul 21 07:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Wikimedia: Joining forces with open science - http://bit.ly/qmrYC3 cool: we need more such collaborations #openscience #openaccessJul 21 07:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Yahoo: la legge è uguale per tutti (anche per Elly!) .::. Size~: 51.18 KBJul 21 07:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] !Fedora 15 on my #wetab. Now I need a decent window manager and gestures support. Recommendations?Jul 21 07:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @MeeGoExperts: First Twitter Client “TwimGo” for Nokia N950 compiled – MeeGo Harmattan http://mge.bz/gE #Twitter #Nokia #N950 #N950ClubJul 21 07:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @glynmoody: #Wikimedia Joining forces with open science - http://bit.ly/qmrYC3 we need more such collaborations #openscience #openaccessJul 21 07:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @quimgil: After seeing Qt getting its way through Android and WebOS, I wonder if someone is trying with Chrome OS http://bit.ly/oYAREaJul 21 07:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @MeeGoExperts: Intel AppUp Application Lab: MeeGo series – 18th August – Canada http://mge.bz/gG #Intel #AppLab #MeeGo #DeveloperJul 21 07:58
TechrightsBot-trTitle: First Twitter Client TwimGo for Nokia N950 is now available .::. Size~: 54.16 KBJul 21 07:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Supporter Of Fashion Copyright Accused Of Plagiarizing Other Supporter Of Fashion Copyright - http://bit.ly/pvWNg9 strange how this happensJul 21 08:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] Awesome, LinuxMCE orbiter running on Nokia N950 RT @vgrade: http://t.co/mn94to4 #N950 #MeeGoJul 21 08:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Supporter Of Fashion Copyright Accused Of Plagiarizing Other Supporter Of Fashion Copyright | Techdirt .::. Size~: 40.21 KBJul 21 08:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: ‪LinuxMCE - qOrbiter - Running on the Nokia N950 for the first time.‬‏       - YouTube .::. Size~: 139.92 KBJul 21 08:02
DaemonFCMinceR_ should meet the Flintstones, from the town of BedrockJul 21 08:03
DaemonFCthey're a page right out of Texas HistoryJul 21 08:03
DaemonFCB-)Jul 21 08:04
schestowitzBdrock?Jul 21 08:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #wolfram: Launching Computable Document Format (CDF) - http://bit.ly/rgVPLV another closed format: last thing we need (v @steve4good @billt)Jul 21 08:13
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schestowitzhttp://imgur.com/L7rPKJul 21 08:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Roof-Jump App - Imgur .::. Size~: 9.12 KBJul 21 08:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] A Rave About !Mageia #GNU #Linux http://ur1.ca/4r161 "I realize that this self-styled review of Mageia has been more of a meditation on KDE"Jul 21 08:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Unlike Microsoft & Apple, Free software isn't a single school of thought http://ur1.ca/4r16zJul 21 08:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Mageia: the return of the Girl Next Door | Linux is my life .::. Size~: 40.75 KBJul 21 08:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Free software isn't a single school of thought - Linux Magazine Online .::. Size~: 47.03 KBJul 21 08:15
schestowitzhttp://i.imgur.com/3RExx.jpgJul 21 08:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @glynmoody: #wolfram: Launching Computable Document Format (CDF) - http://bit.ly/rgVPLV another closed format: last thing we need ....Jul 21 08:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Lies [IMG] http://i.imgur.com/NTczt.jpgJul 21 08:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] @lxoliva: indeedJul 21 08:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] Decoding #DNA with semiconductors > http://nd.gd/sn cc @nj3ma @kelzOKO @fredmanglis @vikGorani @dennismungaiJul 21 08:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @royhugo: DuckDuckGo explains why search privacy is important. http://donttrack.us/Jul 21 08:22
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Google tracks you. We don't. An illustrated guide. .::. Size~: 15.33 KBJul 21 08:22
SnitWhat is up with that bot spewing nonsense?Jul 21 08:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] GNU/Linux distribution LPS (Linux Portable Security) 1.2.2 has just been released http://ur1.ca/4r1brJul 21 08:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Android Phones Help Poor Farmers in #Uganda - http://bit.ly/ocKV6r another reason why #android will trump #iphoneJul 21 08:27
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Android Phones Help Poor Farmers in Uganda | PCWorld .::. Size~: 84.38 KBJul 21 08:27
schestowitzhttp://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/Huawei-and-ZTE-adopting-Windows-Phone-7-because-of-patent-fears/?kc=rssJul 21 08:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Patent fears may hurt Android, result in lower-cost Windows phones - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 62.67 KBJul 21 08:27
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schestowitzIs this true at all? One source.Jul 21 08:27
Snithttp://digitizor.com/2011/07/21/android-malware/Jul 21 08:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Researcher Says That 8% of Android Apps Are Leaking Private Information .::. Size~: 39.79 KBJul 21 08:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Dual-core Droid 3 slider is Motorola's best yet, review says http://ur1.ca/4r1eb "the best of the Droids yet."Jul 21 08:32
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Dual-core Droid 3 slider is Motorola's best yet, review says - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 58.38 KBJul 21 08:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Falling glass victim looks to amputation - http://bit.ly/noBfNU "leg was virtually severed by a shard of falling glass" from the 21st-floorJul 21 08:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Falling glass victim looks to amputation -- Shanghai Daily | 上海日报 -- English Window to China New .::. Size~: 39.27 KBJul 21 08:33
DaemonFC8% of all Android apps? maybeJul 21 08:34
DaemonFChow many Windows and Windows phone apps do that?Jul 21 08:34
DaemonFCa lot more than 8% (even if that figure is true) I'd imagine Jul 21 08:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #GBS Status Conference: Opt-in Settlement in the Works? - http://bit.ly/oimQvZ reading the tea leaves #googleJul 21 08:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] ♺ @glynmoody: !Android Phones Help Poor Farmers in #Uganda - http://bit.ly/ocKV6r another reason why droid will trump #iphone @RamanusAsangoJul 21 08:42
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Laboratorium: GBS Status Conference: Opt-in Settlement in the Works? .::. Size~: 24.8 KBJul 21 08:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Apple suffers stunning iPhone market share slide http://ur1.ca/4r1kq "Android drowns out iPhone sales in Europe" - same happening in tabletsJul 21 08:47
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Apple suffers stunning iPhone market share slide | PC Retail Industry | PCR .::. Size~: 43.86 KBJul 21 08:47
SnitApple's iOS is growing quickly and iOS users are the most satisfied of any OS's users.  Hard to feel too bad for Apple and the users of iOS.Jul 21 08:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Top general says Defense Department IT in 'Stone Age' http://ur1.ca/4r1mx speaks of the trouble with proprietary softwareJul 21 08:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Top general says Defense Department IT in 'Stone Age'  - Computerworld .::. Size~: 134.63 KBJul 21 08:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Ohio's latest law could keep controversial public records in the dark - http://bit.ly/pS6yqO pathetic machinations #ogov #opendataJul 21 08:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Firefox Coming to #Android -based Tablets This Year (mockups and more) http://ur1.ca/4r1tg #mozilla #linux #tabletJul 21 09:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @schestowitz: #Firefox Coming to #Android -based Tablets This Year (mockups and more) http://ur1.ca/4r1tg #mozilla #linux #tabletJul 21 09:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #ASCLaw returns from the UK bankruptcy ashes, to carry on as usual abroad http://is.gd/DZ0qil - seems he lies to courts as well as victimsJul 21 09:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] In non-cached requests, the wiki front page of !techrights now exceeds 3k pageloads per dayJul 21 09:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] claiming "we no longer pursue net pirates" to the courts, then doing exactly that after the case is closed, isn't that perjury? #ACSLaw #p2pJul 21 09:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !techrights comments are mostly IRC-based. To get involved in the discussion come join us or read http://ur1.ca/4r1vr http://ur1.ca/4r1vw ..Jul 21 09:12
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schestowitzhttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/07/20/nokia_margins_need_microscope/Jul 21 09:13
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Nokia ‘giving away phones at cost’ • The Register .::. Size~: 25.09 KBJul 21 09:13
schestowitzMoled' by Micro-SoftJul 21 09:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Indian ISP Airtel starts blocking file sharing websites - http://tnw.co/prC8jk whatever happened to due process? #india #censorshipJul 21 09:13
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Indian ISP Airtel starts blocking file sharing websites .::. Size~: 77.41 KBJul 21 09:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Murdoch: This #scandal has exposed the scale of elite #corruption http://is.gd/2foD91 #NewsCorp #NI #NOTWJul 21 09:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Murdoch: This scandal has exposed the scale of elite corruption | Seumas Milne | Comment is free | The Guardian .::. Size~: 238.82 KBJul 21 09:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Nokia got rootkitted by #Microsof to announce yet more bad news http://ur1.ca/4r1xg Microsoft will probably use its mole there for #swpatsJul 21 09:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Nokia ‘giving away phones at cost’ • The Register .::. Size~: 25.09 KBJul 21 09:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[comzeradd/@comzeradd] "The Anonymous !WikiLeaks protests are a mass demo against control" http://ur1.ca/2ly0cJul 21 09:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Quick - name a company that was saved owing to a Microsoft deal. Novell? Palm? Nokia? Corel? Yahoo? BeOS?Jul 21 09:18
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Anonymous WikiLeaks protests are a mass demo against control | Richard Stallman | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 247.46 KBJul 21 09:18
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schestowitzWhile attacking Linux relentlessly there's that new shameless videoJul 21 09:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Does Microsoft think that #Linux is the KKK? http://ur1.ca/4r1zu for background see the new alleged Microsoft video to the @LinuxFoundationJul 21 09:25
TechrightsBot-trTitle: ‪How the KKK got beat by 1 black guy‬‏       - YouTube .::. Size~: 141.61 KBJul 21 09:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The most outrageous thing is that a convicted repeated abuser which engages in racketeering tries to characterise the victim as "intolerant"Jul 21 09:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Pirate chasing firm moves abroad - http://bbc.in/qi2EW8 not again - #ACS:Law is obviously run by masochists (v @Glinner)Jul 21 09:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Apple gets a kicking in #Europe http://ur1.ca/4r26p "had a gutsful of the Walled Garden of Delights and are converting to Android." #linuxJul 21 09:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] What to expect in #OpenBSD 5.0 onwards http://ur1.ca/4qtu7 "In about six months' time [...] announcing the change to OpenBSD 5.1-beta"Jul 21 09:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @wikileaks: FBI at the door with a search warrant? You have rights. http://t.co/lk0nNQE Print & keep this nearby: http://t.co/gtWGthnJul 21 09:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] Introducing BrowserID – easier and safer authentication on the web http://hacks.mozilla.org/2011/07/introducing-browserid-easier-and-safer-aJul 21 09:43
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Introducing BrowserID – easier and safer authentication on the web ✩         Mozilla Hacks – the Web developer blog .::. Size~: 34.36 KBJul 21 09:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @wikileaks: WikiLeaks shows the US calling the shots in Haiti | McClatchy http://t.co/4AKR1fkJul 21 09:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Harvard internet hero arrested on hacking charges http://ur1.ca/4r2ba In Land of the Brave, obeying the law is "hacking"Jul 21 09:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @qu1j0t3: RT @shaffren "Tribal/Religion makes usually morally normal people say and do wicked things."Jul 21 09:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @einfeldt: RT @drgrist: Limbaugh: Heat index is a liberal government conspiracy http://bit.ly/qTIfwEJul 21 09:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Raphaël Hertzog: People behind !Debian: Martin Michlmayr, former Debian Project Leader http://goo.gl/TLOUMJul 21 09:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @qu1j0t3: Canny Rupe fakes apology,tries to tie crimes to defunct News o'the World brand. Does he think we're idiots? http://t.co/XDPJdHNJul 21 09:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @MishaGlenny Lulzsec apparently ready to release ... gigs of N Int Emails in attempt to bring down Murdoch empire. http://bit.ly/pV2BitJul 21 09:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @xopher MacOS is a Unix much like the Uruk-hai were once Elves, taken by the Dark Lord, tortured and mutilated into their current abo ...Jul 21 09:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @JimHacker: First they ignore allegations, then [...] one or two rogue operatives/officers, then they lie to parliament, then we winJul 21 09:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @qu1j0t3 ♻ @DMReporter BREAKING: Rupert Murdoch admits that he regrets hiring David Cameron as Prime Minister (HT reporter @DaiGoch)Jul 21 09:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @STWuk: Worth repeating: 10 questions that MPs did NOT ask Rupert #Murdoch about his relationship with #TonyBlair: http://bit.ly/poYFpKJul 21 09:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @qu1j0t3: #Murdoch's '3rd phone call with Tony Blair ... 19 March 2003, day before the #Iraq #war started' http://t.co/HVJeClSJul 21 09:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @LowkeyMusic1 The Met assigned about 200 coppers [...] to send demonstrators to jail but only 65 for the phone hacking cases.Jul 21 10:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @jargon: ...u could start by reading the stuff i posted to u in all those links. --- I am aware of that, but there are positivesJul 21 10:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @slashdot: Police To Begin iPhone Iris Scans http://bit.ly/qv6JZj << iPhone always ahead of the curve when it come to harming usersJul 21 10:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Amazing colour pictures of #London under siege from Nazi bombers during World War II - http://bit.ly/ncS2g3 wow, they are (v @paul_clarke)Jul 21 10:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @glynmoody: #Wikimedia Joining forces with open science - http://bit.ly/qmrYC3 we need more such collaborations #openscience #openaccessJul 21 10:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Following the #LKML can be a tedious and painful process." http://ur1.ca/4r2jg Linus was blogging at Google's blogspot beforehandJul 21 10:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #FBI quick 2 arrest ppl who expose corrupt institutions by cracking,slow 2 arrest #Murdoch 4 committing crime 2 defame http://ur1.ca/4r2kxJul 21 10:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Frustrated judge pushes Google digital book deal http://ur1.ca/4r2ld the licence is likely to be acceptable.Jul 21 10:13
TechrightsBot-trTitle: FBI arrests of alleged members of hacker group Anonymous: FBI arrests 14 alleged members of hacker group Anonymous - latimes.com .::. Size~: 184.59 KBJul 21 10:13
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/qu1j0t3/status/93969824086102016Jul 21 10:15
TechrightsBot-tr@qu1j0t3: 'there [is] a new war—against #Libya, a Muslim country, & again [#Murdoch properties] have been bellicose cheerleaders' http://t.co/EP14rKmJul 21 10:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @qu1j0t3: #Murdoch used word '"enterprise" to describe an illegal &immoral #war that slaughtered [...] http://t.co/Zs9BbvtJul 21 10:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Agents Provocateurs - http://bit.ly/qBtYTI "we are yet to recover sufficiently from the Blair poison to give full benefit of law to Muslims"Jul 21 10:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Roku officially unveils new game-enabled video players http://ur1.ca/4r2ph http://ur1.ca/4r2pt running #linux of courseJul 21 10:25
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schestowitz"Quick - name a company that was saved owing to a Microsoft deal. Novell? Palm? Nokia? Corel? Yahoo? BeOS?"Jul 21 10:28
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/amcrouch/status/93970826017251328Jul 21 10:28
TechrightsBot-tr@amcrouch: @schestowitz hmmm .... moor can't think of one!  They are like the grim reaper of poorly performing tech companies!Jul 21 10:28
DaemonFCschestowitz: That Bill Gates toilet thing was funnyJul 21 10:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Murdoch's rags say that Google wants to join the patents cartel http://ur1.ca/4r2qn #swpatsJul 21 10:28
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DaemonFCI was making jokes about itJul 21 10:29
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Companies_That_Lost_GNU/Linux_Focus_After_Microsoft_DealsJul 21 10:29
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DaemonFCthe service pack for Microsoft Toilet promises to fix your issue , but it causes the toilet to overflow and the shutoff valve to stop responding insteadJul 21 10:29
DaemonFCMicrosoft is looking into the issue :)Jul 21 10:29
schestowitzNothing that a Loo Screen of Death won't fixJul 21 10:30
DaemonFCToilet Genuine Advantage Jul 21 10:30
DaemonFCif the person licensed to use the toilet gains or loses 20 pounds, they have to contact Microsoft before the toilet starts working again :)Jul 21 10:31
DaemonFCfor some reason Internet Explorer is included with their toilet and you can't get rid of itJul 21 10:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @jargon: @eebrah how about cannibalism? that's an option. are u considering that too? --- Dude! really? #IsThisNotTrolling?Jul 21 10:32
DaemonFCyou will stop referring to it as the John and start calling it the Ballmer instead Jul 21 10:32
MinceRthe SteveJul 21 10:32
DaemonFCYou tell everyone you'll be right back, you have to take an XP followed by a major VistaJul 21 10:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Ubuntu and Canonical are still hardly in the news, not even in blogs. What is going on? In Distrowatch (past week)PCLinuxOS=2425;Ubuntu=1624Jul 21 10:33
DaemonFCfor some reason, non-Microsoft toilet paper causes the toilet to clogJul 21 10:33
DaemonFCMicrosoft toilet paper costs 4 times the industry averageJul 21 10:34
MinceRand sometimes causes the toilet to clog anywayJul 21 10:34
schestowitzMinceR: either oneJul 21 10:34
schestowitzApple and Microsoft with one stonJul 21 10:34
schestowitzthe former is where you spit out a limb, the lattr -- foodJul 21 10:34
MinceRthen you have the Mark, which is like the other two in oneJul 21 10:35
DaemonFCThere are other brands of toilet, but Microsoft includes patent royalties in themJul 21 10:35
DaemonFCSelling an unbranded toilet will get you prison time for toilet piracyJul 21 10:35
schestowitzBillG is serious about patentsJul 21 10:35
schestowitzAnd he talks about rich people's toiletsJul 21 10:35
schestowitzIt was in the newsJul 21 10:35
schestowitzMaybe now that he got many poor farmer to pay him and Monsato per seed grown he can start working on taxing flushesJul 21 10:36
schestowitzHe already has a PC tax (forced Windows) and phone tax (software patents extortion)Jul 21 10:36
DaemonFCsome Microsoft toilets are equipped with an automatic bidet, which occasionally malfunction and give the user a high pressure enema insteadJul 21 10:36
schestowitzHe is working on glocal warming tax with NathanJul 21 10:36
schestowitz!google gates patent global warmingJul 21 10:37
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Bill Gates Patents a Device Aimed at Halting Hurricanes | 80beats ... | http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2009/07/16/bill-gates-patents-a-device-aimed-at-halting-hurricanes/Jul 21 10:37
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Bill Gates Invests Heavily in Deception About Global Warming and ... | http://techrights.org/2010/02/22/bill-gates-and-exxon/Jul 21 10:37
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Bill Gates Seeks Patent on Hurricane Prevention | IPWatchdog.com ... | http://ipwatchdog.com/2009/07/13/bill-gates-seeks-patent-on-hurricane-prevention/id%3D4576/Jul 21 10:37
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Gates' Billion Dollar Leftism, Part Two: Geoengineering Global Warming | http://www.newsrealblog.com/2010/05/26/gates-billion-dollar-leftism-part-two-geoengineering-global-warming/Jul 21 10:37
MinceRwell, maybe now bill can afford to fish code out of toilets instead of dumpstersJul 21 10:37
schestowitz[10:36] <DaemonFC> some Microsoft toilets are equipped with an automatic bidet, which occasionally malfunction and give the user a high pressure enema insteadJul 21 10:37
schestowitzIsn't that the purpose of a bidet anyway?Jul 21 10:37
MinceRnoJul 21 10:37
schestowitzit's a frontal enemaJul 21 10:37
DaemonFC:PJul 21 10:37
schestowitzBallmer could use one.. or twoJul 21 10:37
schestowitz[for the armpits]Jul 21 10:38
schestowitzTheSteve{tm}Jul 21 10:38
schestowitz"Pull up your sleeve, get TheSteve"Jul 21 10:39
schestowitzThat'll be their marketing mottoJul 21 10:39
DaemonFCevery once in a while, they'll come out with an expensive "upgrade" but you can't see any difference and they'll start slipping your toilet broken updates which make it unbearable to deal withJul 21 10:39
schestowitzRemote deletion of ***Jul 21 10:39
DaemonFCthey've done the broken updates since Windows 95Jul 21 10:40
schestowitzDaemonFC: and the marketing mottoJul 21 10:40
DaemonFCin that case they shipped a broken common control dialog dll with IE 5 that leaked memory like a sieveJul 21 10:40
DaemonFC:)Jul 21 10:40
schestowitz"Yo Dawg. Now you can use a *** OS while you **:"Jul 21 10:40
DaemonFCI wouldn't have considered it a big deal except everything wanted to install IEJul 21 10:41
DaemonFCeven though I didn't need itJul 21 10:41
DaemonFCand it took a considerable chunk of hard disk spaceJul 21 10:41
DaemonFCnot to mention the many ways it corrupted the shellJul 21 10:42
DaemonFCat that time I was fairly happy to just use Netscape which didn't corrupt my shellJul 21 10:42
DaemonFC:PJul 21 10:42
schestowitzThen you got your Microsoft MVP pack :)Jul 21 10:43
DaemonFC:)Jul 21 10:43
schestowitzI think that Goblin got a Vista7 PArty PackJul 21 10:43
schestowitzNeedless to say, he did not organise a partyJul 21 10:43
DaemonFCIE has never worked right and never will (it's less technically deficient now but it's still following Microsoft's agenda, not what's best for the user or for web standards)Jul 21 10:44
DaemonFCthey had to make it mandatory or else users would never accept itJul 21 10:44
DaemonFCschestowitz: Microsoft always seems to come up with some proprietary Windows only (and maybe Mac) thing to answer every standard (or proposed one) withJul 21 10:45
DaemonFCit's what they doJul 21 10:45
DaemonFChardly worth saying since it's obvious :)Jul 21 10:45
DaemonFCI like how they've graduated from not giving a reason to smearing their competition with false allegations of being a security hazard or something (like with WebGL) or making vague references to patents that "might" cover WebMJul 21 10:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Tuxable income.Jul 21 10:47
DaemonFCthey make it sound like avoiding them is the dangerous thing to doJul 21 10:47
DaemonFCit's comicalJul 21 10:47
DaemonFCI would hope anyone in their right mind would compare the number of times they've been pwned with Firefox vs. IE and wonder what gives Microsoft the standing to preach about securityJul 21 10:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] My sysadmin is convinced that Linux as in the kernel,is at version 11.04. Where do they get these idiots?Jul 21 10:48
DaemonFCLinux 3? that old thing?Jul 21 10:49
DaemonFCThey're on 11.04 nowJul 21 10:49
DaemonFC:)Jul 21 10:49
DaemonFCmy router/modem firmware still using Linux 2.4Jul 21 10:49
DaemonFCit has been incredibly reliableJul 21 10:50
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MinceRubuntu doesn't even brand itself as linuxJul 21 10:50
MinceRa little knowledge is a dangerous thingJul 21 10:50
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DaemonFCMinceR: Ubuntu supersedes Linux of courseJul 21 10:51
DaemonFCobsoletes itJul 21 10:51
DaemonFCOMGUBUNTU!!!!Jul 21 10:51
DaemonFCYou're not using Ubuntu?Jul 21 10:51
DaemonFCWITCH!!!!Jul 21 10:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] U Pittsburgh Ups Research Capacity with Linux Cluster Named Frankhttp://ur1.ca/4r2zk "Linux cluster designed and built by Penguin Computing"Jul 21 10:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] GMO wars on my timeline. A more emotive issue in our times, there will never be.Jul 21 10:52
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schestowitz[10:49] <DaemonFC> my router/modem firmware still using Linux 2.4Jul 21 10:52
schestowitzmy hub uses LinuxJul 21 10:52
schestowitzBT mentions the GPL in the manual nowJul 21 10:52
schestowitzRMS owned BTJul 21 10:52
DaemonFCNetgear does tooJul 21 10:52
*MinceR doubts it's a hubJul 21 10:53
DaemonFCand they offer the GPL bits of their firmware in each release Jul 21 10:53
schestowitzMinceR: they call it Home HubJul 21 10:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] landing of final flight of the Space Shuttle in a few minutes - http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/index.htmlJul 21 10:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] There is no such thing as a "free" wallpaper [for <OS>]. There is only such a thing as free-to-use /image/ http://ur1.ca/4r31wJul 21 10:53
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DaemonFCit's bad when you have to praise a company for doing the bare minimum the license requires of themJul 21 10:53
schestowitz!google bt home hub gpl linuxJul 21 10:53
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - BT Home Hub - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BT_Home_HubJul 21 10:53
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - BT Home Hub and Voyager GPL Code | http://www.btyahoo.com/broadband/adhoc_pages/gplcode.htmlJul 21 10:53
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - BT's Home Hub runs on Linux • The Register | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/01/22/bt_breaking_gpl/Jul 21 10:53
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - BT's Home Hub runs on Linux | http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php/64482-BT-s-Home-Hub-runs-on-LinuxJul 21 10:53
MinceRicJul 21 10:53
DaemonFCthere's a lot of GPL violators out thereJul 21 10:54
schestowitzI also have a sip phone running LinuxJul 21 10:54
schestowitzSo is my music player AFAIKJul 21 10:54
schestowitzIt's archosJul 21 10:54
DaemonFCit's going to be over 100 degrees today :PJul 21 10:54
schestowitzSo I'm surrounded by Linux boxes... one new one should arrive by mail any day nowJul 21 10:54
schestowitzDaemonFC: here it's more like 60Jul 21 10:55
schestowitzat night it's cold... need to shut windowsJul 21 10:55
schestowitzthick blankets... in JulyJul 21 10:55
DaemonFCI just got done removing the front covers of my air conditioners and vacuuming  them out Jul 21 10:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Dear Lawd, Thank you for the in context button.Jul 21 10:55
schestowitzthe only good thing about wintry summer is that when you're home you can be comfortableJul 21 10:55
DaemonFCit's like Hell out there Jul 21 10:56
DaemonFCall the grass is deadJul 21 10:56
schestowitzTell the landpord's sonJul 21 10:56
DaemonFCit's already 80 and the sun isn't even up yetJul 21 10:56
schestowitzHeheJul 21 10:56
schestowitzTell downJul 21 10:56
schestowitzDawnJul 21 10:56
schestowitzShe'll shave off the grassJul 21 10:56
schestowitz[what's left of it]Jul 21 10:56
DaemonFCI'm glad it all diedJul 21 10:56
DaemonFCas often as that idiot mows itJul 21 10:56
DaemonFCI'm usually knee deep in my own lawn by nowJul 21 10:57
DaemonFC:PJul 21 10:57
schestowitzManBearPig will smell like a Steve todayJul 21 10:57
schestowitzGet it a bah in a cats' bidetJul 21 10:57
schestowitz*bathJul 21 10:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] final touchdown of STS135! Thank you, NASA! #fbJul 21 10:58
DaemonFCschestowitz: I only remember one summer where it was unseasonably cold Jul 21 10:59
DaemonFCit was in the 50s and 60s most of the timeJul 21 10:59
DaemonFCand raining :PJul 21 10:59
DaemonFC1992 I thinkJul 21 10:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Linux-Based Wireless Device Server http://ur1.ca/4r34s "Lantronix [...] Linux-based wireless device server" #linux #LantronixJul 21 11:00
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schestowitzMayb a global warning about global warmingJul 21 11:00
DaemonFCmehJul 21 11:01
DaemonFCthey need to say something more dramatic than a half a degree Fahrenheit in the last 100 years , on average, give or takeJul 21 11:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @nj3ma: Dear Lawd, Thank you for the in context button.Jul 21 11:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] My mustard client, knowing in it's infinite wisdom that @sandersch was not a good influence, unsub'd me from him. Or perhaps he blocked me ?Jul 21 11:02
DaemonFCit's almost like they want it to be so little that nobody can easily disprove themJul 21 11:02
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DaemonFCthen they can go around with their pollution ponzi scheme taxesJul 21 11:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @nj3ma: Tuxable income.Jul 21 11:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @qu1j0t3: Blair's former press officer Lance Price: #Murdoch was "3rd most powerful figure in the Labour government" http://t.co/iY4myAYJul 21 11:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] No he didn't block me the jolly Dutch fool. Must have unsub'd inadvertently. Happens a lot with these touch interfaces.Jul 21 11:03
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DaemonFCyou can pay to pollute and then someone else will do something to offset itJul 21 11:03
DaemonFCright :)Jul 21 11:03
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schestowitzDaemonFC: your mate Shimel http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/76677Jul 21 11:04
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schestowitzThe Microsoft apologistJul 21 11:04
schestowitzhe tells us "fiction"Jul 21 11:04
schestowitzHe know better than all of usJul 21 11:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Serbia: Disgruntled Community Vs. Disgruntled Politician on #Twitter - http://bit.ly/olWfgR interesting and characteristic sagaJul 21 11:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] RT @frozenfire Morality is doing what is right regardless of what you are told. Religion is doing what you are told regardless of what i ...Jul 21 11:05
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schestowitzhttp://i.imgur.com/vlWVx.jpgJul 21 11:05
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schestowitzWhat a ruse arse: Jul 21 11:07
schestowitzhttp://blogs.siliconindia.com/ChetanNagaonkar/There_is_no_such_thing_called_as_free_meal_and_free_Open_Source_services_either-bid-7mO5Kdov14290302.htmlJul 21 11:07
TechrightsBot-trTitle: There is no such thing called as free meal (and free Open Source services either) .::. Size~: 69.31 KBJul 21 11:07
schestowitz"I wish those so called professionals, “Get Well Soon” from this gratis malady (“free” disease)."Jul 21 11:07
schestowitzfree disease?Jul 21 11:08
schestowitzand SiliconIndia let this junk be published, like ZDNET.Jul 21 11:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Site missing [IMG] http://i.imgur.com/C80qC.jpgJul 21 11:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] @nj3ma recently found out that I've blocked by yet another identicat, wierd enough felt ... niceJul 21 11:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Also Dear Lawd, Thank You for not giving me the overarching need to always be right. The older I grow the more I realize it's a handicap.Jul 21 11:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] An Open Government Data Licence for the World? - http://bit.ly/nizeMM one for @daeaves perhaps? #opendata #ogovJul 21 11:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Community Site Builder #Acquia Raises $15M http://ur1.ca/4r392 #gpl attracts money too. #drupalJul 21 11:12
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Community Site Builder Acquia Raises $15M - Liz Gannes - Social - AllThingsD .::. Size~: 72.64 KBJul 21 11:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Backblaze open sources 135TB storage architecture http://ur1.ca/4r39o it's not really "Open Source", but a step forwardJul 21 11:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Curious PR: "..Google to Upgrade Its Motto by Making It “Open Source” to Help End All Ongoing Human Problems" http://ur1.ca/4r3a5Jul 21 11:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] @eebrah Yet to be blocked,sadly. Keep unsubbing from guys inadvertently. Pains of a touch interface.Jul 21 11:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @sudaraka: I know people who believe Linux was created by #RedHat and later bought by #Canonical, Effect of branding on public cc @nj3maJul 21 11:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] RT @schestowitz ♻ @qu1j0t3: Blair's former press officer Lance Price: #Murdoch was "3rd most powerful figure in the Labour government" h ...Jul 21 11:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Website blocking minutes released under FOI - http://bit.ly/oyGMYy disgraceful lack of transparency: something to hide? #deactJul 21 11:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @glynmoody: Website blocking mins released under FOI - http://bit.ly/oyGMYy disgraceful lack of transparency: something 2 hide? #deactJul 21 11:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Back to doing screen captures of my identi.ca tag cloud. Nice snapshots of my state of mind at any given time.Jul 21 11:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] At a given time *Jul 21 11:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @kachwanya Kenya ICT Board: Grant for web and mobile phone applications now open: http://bit.ly/q2UpHF @nj3ma @kelzOKO @fredmanglisJul 21 11:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Reminder, Lazy commie bastards in Nairobi Meetup tomorrow for founding of Creative Commons Kenya chapter. @iTosh kindly confirmJul 21 11:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] RT @frozenfire #Religion: Treat it like your penis. Don't show it off in public and don't shove it down children's throats.Jul 21 11:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #WebUpd8: Get Your Webcam To Work With !GooglePlus Hangouts Or GTalk http://goo.gl/ZTWueJul 21 11:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Yep confirmed it. Matiti.com is a porn site that gets past the workplace proxy.Jul 21 11:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] @eebrah Downloaded TiddlyWiki. Want to write up biz plan as a wiki.Jul 21 11:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tuxradar/@tuxradar] Could our latest podcast be our most surreal? http://bit.ly/oRUj3cJul 21 11:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] @eebrah A wiki would also be useful for the stage za ma3 thing.Jul 21 11:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] No, no. This is not a cheap, chinese phone, It is a #smart modem, with Texting, calling, Storage and media capabilities. #marketingJul 21 11:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] @eebrah On a wiki, folks can contribute their matatu stages and stops easily. Crowdsourced makes work easier.Jul 21 11:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @nj3ma: @eebrah Downloaded TiddlyWiki. Want to write up biz plan as a wiki. -- Great software that!Jul 21 11:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] Grant for web and mobile phone applications now open !Kenya > http://nd.gd/sq cc @nj3ma @kelzOKO @fredmanglis @DennisMungai @RamanusAsangoJul 21 11:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @frozenfire Java should be kept alive at all costs. Java certifications give us an easy way to detect incompetent programmers.Jul 21 11:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] @eebrah Nice. Should have you come work for us.Jul 21 11:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] @eebrah It's a Smoken!Jul 21 11:43
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nT1TVSTkAXgJul 21 11:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] RT @eebrah RD: @sudaraka: I know people who believe Linux was created by #RedHat and later bought by #Canonical, Effect of branding on p ...Jul 21 11:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] @eebrah Like the people who drink Brookside Yoghurt, courtesy of Brookside bacteria.Jul 21 11:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] @eebrah And have you sampled our KCC bacteria?Jul 21 11:47
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovZLv0LNPQAJul 21 11:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] On the Money http://nj3ma.wordpress.com/2011/07/19/on-the-money/ >> New blog post on Kenya's new CurrencyJul 21 11:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @frozenfire RFC1459: "The IRC protocol was developed[..]as a means for users [..] to keep each other informed on intestinal minutae."Jul 21 11:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] On the Money http://nj3ma.wordpress.com/2011/07/19/on-the-money/ >> New blog post on Kenya's proposed new Currency notes and coinsJul 21 11:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @nj3ma: @eebrah And have you sampled our KCC bacteria? -- every few days.Jul 21 11:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Yu EDGE's really cool.Jul 21 11:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @nj3ma: @icekarim Just confirmed that in fact Gentoos live in the Falklands, and hate Margaret Thatcher.Jul 21 12:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] #Lesenswert - Patenter Irrsinn - iX editorial - http://www.heise.de/ix/artikel/Patenter-Irrsinn-1279597.htmlJul 21 12:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @schestowitz: Links 21/7/2011: Linux is Gradually Beating Apple in Europe http://bit.ly/pvfpdP #TechrightsJul 21 12:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] @nj3ma I take it that in your case, Yu net has been well behaved recently?Jul 21 12:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] "The consumer is an idiot"Jul 21 12:05
*DaemonFC (~ryan@ppp-69-215-49-179.dsl.sbndin.ameritech.net) has joined #techrightsJul 21 12:11
DaemonFCit's like a tropical rainforest out thereJul 21 12:11
DaemonFC90% humidity Jul 21 12:11
DaemonFCno windJul 21 12:11
DaemonFCsweat is sticking to you within 5 minutes of being out there, not even doing muchJul 21 12:12
*DaemonFC thinks he'll rid this one out indoors with the air conditioning and his little umbrella drinkJul 21 12:12
DaemonFC*rideJul 21 12:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] @eebrah Very.Jul 21 12:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] RT @eebrah RT @frozenfire RFC1459: "The IRC protocol was developed[..]as a means for users [..] to keep each other informed on intestina ...Jul 21 12:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] RT @eebrah RT @frozenfire Java should be kept alive at all costs. Java certifications give us an easy way to detect incompetent programmers.Jul 21 12:17
DaemonFCthe test kit for Java is not very open :)Jul 21 12:17
DaemonFCit kind of taints "free" Java implementationsJul 21 12:18
DaemonFCif anyone without access to the test suites changes anything they can't know if it will pass or notJul 21 12:18
DaemonFCof course that's the whole point :)Jul 21 12:19
DaemonFCthis isn't all that different (in one way anyway) from the Novell deal wherein Novell got access to .Net and Silverlight test suitesJul 21 12:19
DaemonFCso Mono and Moonlight could have been completely open and it wouldn't really matter, because nobody gets the inside scoop without Microsoft's blessingJul 21 12:20
DaemonFCand that seems to me to be tantamount to what Oracle is doing with JavaJul 21 12:20
DaemonFCthere's open Java implementations but they reign it in with the other hand by denying access to the test suitesJul 21 12:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] RT @sandersch Nokia Q2 2011: operating profit down 44 percent since Q1, challenges prove 'greater than expected' http://is.gd/ROGY2Z #el ...Jul 21 12:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] It's healthy to read alternative opinions, even better to read those you disagree withJul 21 12:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @nj3ma @bmuluu Doing a steady 11kBps. You?Jul 21 12:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] New Statesman : Ex-tabloid duo cash-in as news agency Splash is sold http://bit.ly/rgCtAuJul 21 12:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Penn Olson : PayPal Uses Cheesy YouTube Videos To Promote Buyer Protection Policy http://bit.ly/n9mKj9Jul 21 12:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Taller women more likely to develop cancer, by 16% for every 10cm in height http://bit.ly/qzpti6Jul 21 12:23
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DaemonFCyeah, I've heard about that policy, if you're the buyer and a victim, they tell you to fuck yourself, and if you're a seller, they victimize you by giving a complaining customer a chargeback from your bank account without you knowing :)Jul 21 12:25
schestowitz"Jul 21 12:25
schestowitzDear Chris, Tim,Jul 21 12:25
schestowitzAccording to media reports, Google is still pursuing the purchase of software patents -- the same nuisance that had Sun's patents attack Android after being called "defensive". If Google chooses to defend Android by becoming part of the software patents cartel, it will only make matter worse for anyone outside this cartel -- those to whom software patents are out of reach. This would also raise the market value of software patents and Jul 21 12:25
schestowitzcause a great deal of harm to all those seeking to abolish them. Please, to the extent possible, help stop Google from becoming part of the problem. Google should support the ending of software patents, not their perpetuation.Jul 21 12:25
schestowitz"Jul 21 12:25
schestowitzJust sent this to Google execsJul 21 12:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @nj3ma: @bmuluu All 680 square kilometers of !Nairobi?Jul 21 12:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @silner: It's healthy to read alternative opinions, even better to read those you disagree withJul 21 12:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I'll say it again. I don't take stock in statistical correlations, without causal links being establishedJul 21 12:25
DaemonFCI don't use ebay and Paypal is a huge reason whyJul 21 12:25
DaemonFCwell, I've made rare exceptions when I've linked my paypal account to a disposable debit cardJul 21 12:26
DaemonFCanyone linking their bank account to paypal is just stupidJul 21 12:26
DaemonFChttp://fortwayne.craigslist.org/zip/2505142806.htmlJul 21 12:27
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DaemonFCthat is so terribleJul 21 12:28
DaemonFCpoor kitties Jul 21 12:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Whose got a diaspora invite to spare?Jul 21 12:28
*ChanServ gives channel operator status to MinceRJul 21 12:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Get Your Webcam To Work With Google Plus Hangouts Or GTalk http://ur1.ca/4r3tgJul 21 12:30
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DaemonFChttp://fortwayne.craigslist.org/sys/2504902695.htmlJul 21 12:33
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DaemonFClolJul 21 12:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 21/7/2011: Linux is Gradually Beating Apple in Europe http://ur1.ca/4r3k8 !techrightsJul 21 12:33
DaemonFChttp://fortwayne.craigslist.org/sys/2504453072.htmlJul 21 12:34
DaemonFChehJul 21 12:34
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DaemonFCnew Apple stuff comes out and it never failsJul 21 12:34
DaemonFCyou have people trying to sell used last generation Apple stuff at near retailJul 21 12:34
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/amcrouch/status/94006266271240192 https://twitter.com/amcrouch/status/94006380243062786Jul 21 12:35
TechrightsBot-tr@amcrouch: @schestowitz Nokia is on a road to ruin now!Jul 21 12:35
TechrightsBot-tr@amcrouch: @schestowitz Microsoft phone software has always been bottom of the class & it won't help Nokia play catch up to Android and iOS.Jul 21 12:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Links 21/7/2011: Linux is Gradually Beating Apple in Europe http://ur1.ca/4r3k8 #techrightsJul 21 12:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Tell Google Not to Buy Software Patents http://ur1.ca/4r3u6 #swpats #google #nortelJul 21 12:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Tell Google Not to Buy Software Patents http://ur1.ca/4r3u6 #microsoft #apple #htc #linux #cartel #InterDigital #stockpilingJul 21 12:35
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DaemonFChttp://fortwayne.craigslist.org/sys/2475664023.htmlJul 21 12:35
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DaemonFCHow much would MinceR pay for this advanced operating environment?Jul 21 12:36
DaemonFC:)Jul 21 12:36
schestowitzDaemonFC: wanna swap weather?Jul 21 12:36
MinceRwrong questionJul 21 12:36
schestowitzfor one hour only thoughJul 21 12:36
MinceRhow much would you pay to have me handle this garbage? :>Jul 21 12:36
DaemonFCnice :)Jul 21 12:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] RT @sandersch @nj3ma I would never block you.Jul 21 12:37
DaemonFCMinceR: People have no idea what their stuff is worthJul 21 12:37
DaemonFCI saw a system crappier than this at a garage sale the other dayJul 21 12:37
DaemonFCthey wanted $100 for itJul 21 12:37
MinceRcrApple routinely sells crap systems at high prices :>Jul 21 12:37
*DaemonFC would have paid $10 to take it off their hands but didn't want them to feel like that was an insultJul 21 12:37
MinceRand dHell routinely sells crap systems at non-low pricesJul 21 12:38
DaemonFCschestowitz: yes pleaseJul 21 12:38
DaemonFCit's supposed to get up over 100 todayJul 21 12:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Only a couple of weeks before all the cool kids move on to g+ and my T-word TL goes blissfully quiet. Can hardly waitJul 21 12:38
DaemonFCheat index in the 110sJul 21 12:38
DaemonFCthe weather channel described it as "suffocating"Jul 21 12:39
DaemonFC:)Jul 21 12:39
DaemonFChttp://fortwayne.craigslist.org/sys/2502564440.htmlJul 21 12:39
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DaemonFCWTFJul 21 12:39
DaemonFCa USB powered coffee warmer?Jul 21 12:40
DaemonFCwhat a terrible ideaJul 21 12:40
DaemonFChttp://fortwayne.craigslist.org/sys/2480867884.htmlJul 21 12:41
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DaemonFCnow there's some proper garbageJul 21 12:41
MinceR:>Jul 21 12:41
MinceRit was garbage when it was newJul 21 12:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Cool Diaspora* flyers http://blog.joindiaspora.com/2010/04/24/awesome-flyers-are-here.htmlJul 21 12:42
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DaemonFChttp://fortwayne.craigslist.org/sys/2501478615.htmlJul 21 12:42
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DaemonFCsomeone committed blasphemy hereJul 21 12:42
DaemonFC10 points to MinceR if he can spot itJul 21 12:42
*MinceR can'tJul 21 12:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] "I have come to respect the 1Ghz processor." http://moshe.nairo.biz/blog.html >> Shit I wrote a year ago. Feels like an eternity cc @eebrahJul 21 12:43
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DaemonFCthey defiled Battlestar Galactica Jul 21 12:44
DaemonFCbastards!Jul 21 12:44
DaemonFC:PJul 21 12:44
MinceRi haven't seen BSG yetJul 21 12:44
MinceRthough i suspected that it didn't deserve to be smeared with an association with crAppleJul 21 12:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] The 1 GHz processor is still my stuff of dreams.Jul 21 12:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] An ATOM is just too fast.Jul 21 12:45
DaemonFChttp://fortwayne.craigslist.org/sys/2498373180.htmlJul 21 12:45
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DaemonFCthat doesn't seem legalJul 21 12:45
DaemonFChttp://fortwayne.craigslist.org/sys/2473419968.htmlJul 21 12:47
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*DaemonFC facepalmsJul 21 12:47
DaemonFCa bunch of obsolete software on floppy diskJul 21 12:48
DaemonFCwow, a world atlas!Jul 21 12:49
DaemonFCwonder if it mentions the Soviet Union and the German Democratic RepublicJul 21 12:49
DaemonFCthis is just all garbage, and half of them are so stupid you can't even tell what they are sellingJul 21 12:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] !lazyweb, help! I want to set-up bw throttle per WiFi client on a conference, is iterating through all IPs the only way? !linuxJul 21 12:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RD @sudaraka @eebrah: I know many people who believe #Linux was created by #RedHat and later bought by #Canonical, Effect of branding...Jul 21 12:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laforge/@laforge] die #heldbraeu partyfaesser #bier fuers #cccamp2011 sind soeben angekommen :)Jul 21 12:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @nj3ma: An ATOM is just too fast.Jul 21 12:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RD @kirschner With #freesoftware and #Arduino: #Chilean teen creates earthquake detection system http://is.gd/nmmGBK (via @dmaphy )Jul 21 12:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @sandersch: @nj3ma I would never block you. --- Aaaaw. Isn't that sweet :PJul 21 12:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] The Yu KES 10 [USD 0.11] scratchcard is still one of my favorite things! http://ur1.ca/4r3yuJul 21 12:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] RT @sandersch @nj3ma you calling me a stalker?Jul 21 12:55
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DaemonFCheh, someone who just moved here from New York.....Jul 21 12:57
DaemonFCHere it's a big deal to find a dead woman floating in the lakeJul 21 12:57
DaemonFC:)Jul 21 12:57
DaemonFCwhich happened last year :PJul 21 12:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] As a stop gap measure, how about we convert you blog to strict (X)HTML and use PHP and /or JS to manipulate XHTML?Jul 21 12:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] RT @sojyujai 'Ghana cracks down on gays' http://bit.ly/piB6vT If this is true Ghana will be near the top of my list of the most vile c ...Jul 21 12:58
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DaemonFCGhana  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=On3etueeGIgJul 21 12:59
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DaemonFCheheJul 21 13:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Ghana’s Western Region Minister has ordered the immediate arrest of all homosexuals in the country’s west. http://b1t.it/sokJul 21 13:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Wait, where's @ghabuntu?Jul 21 13:03
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ghana cracks down on gays  |  Star Online .::. Size~: 50.36 KBJul 21 13:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Finally found out what FTW means these days. Thought it meant Fuck The World.Jul 21 13:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] @eebrah Assume you're talking to me?Jul 21 13:08
schestowitzDaemonFC: so according to this man, men who like other men eat s*** and fist each otherJul 21 13:10
schestowitzHe could say the same about deviant people who are straightJul 21 13:11
DaemonFCschestowitz: I know I've never done either of those nor permitted them to be done to meJul 21 13:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] RT @glynmoody Android Phones Help Poor Farmers in #Uganda - http://bit.ly/ocKV6r another reason why #android will trump #iphoneJul 21 13:12
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DaemonFCI have to disagree with his findings :)Jul 21 13:12
schestowitzMaybe he watches 2 girls and 21 cup..Jul 21 13:16
schestowitzNo men involvedJul 21 13:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] In a Flash, Adobe's 64-Bit Flash for #Linux Is Back http://bit.ly/nPzid0Jul 21 13:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux News: Community: In a Flash, Adobe's 64-Bit Flash for Linux Is Back .::. Size~: 63.24 KBJul 21 13:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Microsoft Plays Dirty PR Games to Daemonise Sceptics of Convicted Criminals http://ur1.ca/4r451 #linux #pr @lInuxfoundationJul 21 13:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Microsoft Plays Dirty PR Games to Daemonise Sceptics of Convicted Criminals http://ur1.ca/4r451 #spin #astroturf #gpl #kernelJul 21 13:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @joshix: @jargon This is not the hashtag we're looking for.Jul 21 13:20
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DaemonFCschestowitz: But he's not trying to demonize women Jul 21 13:21
DaemonFCprovided that they have sex with only men, or maybe if the other chick is hotJul 21 13:22
DaemonFClike most straight men :)Jul 21 13:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] If you are dependent on someone for your net and working space, you can not claim to be independent or entirely unbiased about themJul 21 13:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Climate Change: The ‘Feeble’ US Response to the “Enormous Security Threat” - http://bit.ly/r8ObR7 putting things in contextJul 21 13:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Kissing their ass is a considerable part of what you do every dayJul 21 13:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: Tx to all for b'day wishes - told I'm just 46 in hexadecimal! Now even more comforted re http://p.ost.im/p/eJgFXhJul 21 13:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: MT @saeditorinchief: Nominate someone who's inspired girls into math,sci,eng,tech http:/ http://p.ost.im/p/eJbV8JJul 21 13:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: @10comm EP: citizens represented by democratically elected MEPs, who sit on committees a http://p.ost.im/p/eJqHWUJul 21 13:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: @10comm Council: each MS represented by a Minister. List of attendees at most recent TTE http://p.ost.im/p/eJER3eJul 21 13:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: @iko_nal agree poor deal for citizen. made proposal on this few wks ago. Council & Eurn http://p.ost.im/p/eJTWYkJul 21 13:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @pudo: Aufruf an den Bundesanzeiger und das BMJ: Gebt die Unternehmensdaten frei! http://t.co/TukPliO #o http://p.ost.im/p/ee2QXxJul 21 13:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] And it is obvious in stuff you write and and don't write.Jul 21 13:23
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schestowitzDaemonFC: yeahJul 21 13:27
schestowitzConflating homosexuality with fisting is foolish/... it's almost nearly impossible... maybe he thinks of deviant straight pr0nJul 21 13:28
ender_33schestowitz - larry.page@google.com works, and is probably a better person to e-mailJul 21 13:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] @nj3ma #blog dent Was directed @ you, sorry about that.Jul 21 13:32
schestowitzender_33: he'll have a PAJul 21 13:32
schestowitzshe/he'd filter itJul 21 13:32
ender_33cc it at leastJul 21 13:33
ender_33you never knowJul 21 13:33
ender_3307:44 <@MinceR> i haven't seen BSG yetJul 21 13:33
ender_3307:44 <@MinceR> though i suspected that it didn't deserve to be smeared with an  association with crAppleJul 21 13:33
ender_33because the show might have been made using a mac?Jul 21 13:33
ender_33star trek was made on one you knowJul 21 13:34
ender_33schestowitz - I had someone at Bell filter my mail to George Cope but at least they did somethingJul 21 13:34
ender_33schestowitz - not that they fixed my issue, at least I got higher level serviceJul 21 13:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] "Aidooo has tasked Ghana’s Bureau of National Investigations & security forces to round up the country’s gay population...." http://nd.gd/srJul 21 13:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] This would have been some funny shit,had it not been so seriousJul 21 13:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] "has called on landlords and tenants to inform on people they suspect of being homosexuals." http://nd.gd/srJul 21 13:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Site Maturity http://ur1.ca/4r4b9 Enquiry about the #1 priority of !Techrights now that the site has covered many of the important areasJul 21 13:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Site Maturity http://ur1.ca/4r4b9 Enquiry about the #1 priority of #Techrights now that the site has covered many of the important areasJul 21 13:38
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schestowitzender_33: yes, that tends to workJul 21 13:38
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schestowitzDaemonFC: maybe that guy from the video should be made to eat ** and die... or fisted to death :-)  /humourJul 21 13:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] “All efforts are being made to get rid of these people in the society,” he said. http://nd.gd/sr >> N**ga has a serious stick up his buttJul 21 13:40
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DaemonFCfisted to deathJul 21 13:40
schestowitzpunchedJul 21 13:41
DaemonFCthat could be their new death sentence in GhanaJul 21 13:41
DaemonFCthrow you into a room with a flaming homosexual and let the situation pan outJul 21 13:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @nj3ma "Aidooo has tasked Ghana’s Bureau of National Investigations & security forces to round up the country’s gay...." http://nd.gd/srJul 21 13:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] What's next, bounty hunters? #ghana #gaysJul 21 13:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @nj3ma "has called on landlords and tenants to inform on people they suspect of being homosexuals." http://nd.gd/srJul 21 13:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] "Your honour,de accused was found rod anded wid hiz memba insod anoda mon's bottocks "Jul 21 13:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @nj3ma: What's next, bounty hunters? #ghana #gaysJul 21 13:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @jargon: @nj3ma nothing but astonishing material coming from #kenya today. :P -- You do realise he is talking about #Ghana, right?Jul 21 13:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Phone hacking: Met police to investigate mobile tracking claims - http://bit.ly/p6acvW now apply this to mobile Net #interceptmodernisationJul 21 13:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Get Satisfaction: Tips for engaging citizens in gov 2.0 | http://red.ht/pZuBlL @lukefretwellJul 21 13:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Protestors to State House now remanded http://nd.gd/sr #freeomtatah #freeomtatah #freeomtatah #freeomtatahJul 21 13:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] is it just me, or is #MalcomReid in #Enterprise badly cast? he may do other roles great, but he doesn't sell "security officer" to meJul 21 13:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ES: El Auge y la Caída del Desarrollador Independiente http://ur1.ca/4r4he EN: http://ur1.ca/4p8smJul 21 13:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] "With an economic growth of about 20.146 % for the year 2011, Ghana growth rate stands ahead of the rest of the world in economic growth"Jul 21 14:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ES: Kappos Está Concediendo Más Monopolios http://ur1.ca/4r4j1 EN: http://ur1.ca/4pieg #SwpatsJul 21 14:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] Whohoo! enough money in my #MPesa to buy a .me.ke domainJul 21 14:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Ghana's GDP (nominal) $37.481 billion Per capita $1,542.160. Population 24,233,431Jul 21 14:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[spreadthunderbird/@spreadthunderbird] New post: Thunderbird Beta Channel: New update available http://www.spreadthunderbird.com/node/1047Jul 21 14:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] had a quick meeting with @lovenemesis and @ow2 about hosting !Fedora !FAD alongside #OpenSourceWeek !Beijing on the community day, 15 octJul 21 14:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] !Kenya GDP( nominal ) $66.032 Billion. GDP( Per Capita ) $1,661. Population 41M [ estimate ] cc @nj3maJul 21 14:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] Hur säger man "mättande" på engelska? Är "filling" den bästa översättningen?Jul 21 14:10
schestowitzDaemonFC: http://i.imgur.com/rmzw3.jpgJul 21 14:10
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DaemonFChehJul 21 14:11
DaemonFCI took my outdoor cats a big bowl of water and foodJul 21 14:12
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DaemonFCI think they'll do OK today, they live under the deck in the shadeJul 21 14:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] I see what you did there [IMG] http://i.imgur.com/tpJ0a.jpgJul 21 14:13
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DaemonFCschestowitz: I leave them a big block of ice Jul 21 14:14
DaemonFCthat way they can drink it as it melts Jul 21 14:14
*DaemonFC likes cats :)Jul 21 14:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @cyrilleb: #blag : icecat 5 : Available : http://cbiot.fr/blag.f14/repoview/icecat.html if anyone wanted to test it.Jul 21 14:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ES: Inevitablemente, las #swpats Podrían Morir Cuando Su Impacto Económico es Dado a Conocer http://ur1.ca/4r4ld EN: http://ur1.ca/4q8skJul 21 14:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] @nj3ma Reading on your blog about an attempt to convert a 350 page PDF to valid (X)HTML, how did that go?Jul 21 14:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] @nj3ma working on #SVG map of !Kenya showing the #counties.Jul 21 14:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] good morning !identiverse\Jul 21 14:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @laurelrusswurm: good morning !identiverse --- You on my identica timeline is like #jetlag :) Good morning back!Jul 21 14:42
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/76793873#notice-79360879 http://identi.ca/notice/79360879Jul 21 14:46
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TechrightsBot-tr@Johnny Null (johnnynull)'s status on Thursday, 21-Jul-11 13:28:03 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz That's awesome. Thinking outside that gravity-box-thing.Jul 21 14:46
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schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/RuiSeabra/statuses/93941741681508352Jul 21 14:48
TechrightsBot-tr@RuiSeabra: @glynmoody I'm surprised they don't call for patents, much easier to troll .oO( tissue craftily woven in insect derived droppings ) #swpatJul 21 14:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Linux 3.0 delayed by RCU, VFS ssues (H): http://bit.ly/rfbAXRJul 21 14:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Linus on 3.0 and the 3.1 merge window http://lwn.net/Articles/452404/rssJul 21 14:50
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schestowitzeebrah: what's up?Jul 21 14:58
schestowitzgood work there on map Jul 21 14:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @xopher MacOS is a Unix much like the Uruk-hai were once Elves, taken by the Dark Lord, tortured and mutilated into their current abo ...Jul 21 14:58
schestowitzNo MS VML? :-)Jul 21 14:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Online game store launched for #Linux community http://ur1.ca/4r4wv Android has one tooJul 21 15:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Linux #Australia to tweak constitution http://ur1.ca/4r4xn "survey of members to find out what functions they expected the body to perform"Jul 21 15:05
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eebrahschestowitz: I'm goodJul 21 15:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] The light in my 2 son's eyes began dimming after their Montessori kindergarten days :-(. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcgN0lEh5IA #fbJul 21 15:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Google Is ‘Very Frugal,’ Says Obscenely Overpaid Googler (Gawker): http://gaw.kr/nYpZ5EJul 21 15:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @frozenfire: the proud moment when you make a joke and the entire IRC channel laughs at itJul 21 15:13
eebrahschestowitz: Intent on using RaphaelJS after I have the SVG paths sorted out, that should cater for MS-VMLJul 21 15:18
eebrah*intendJul 21 15:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Wolfram introduces interactive data format (PC World): http://bit.ly/qvufILJul 21 15:20
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schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/79363520Jul 21 15:20
TechrightsBot-tr@agentsmith's status on Thursday, 21-Jul-11 14:09:02 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz I really believe that: Cooperation is better than competition.Jul 21 15:20
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/79363591Jul 21 15:20
TechrightsBot-tr@agentsmith's status on Thursday, 21-Jul-11 14:10:25 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Yeah, I believe, with all the economic hardships US is on, politicians would be cheaper than patents...Jul 21 15:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Cassandra, CouchDB, MongoDB, Redis, Riak, Neo4J, and FlockDB reinvent the data store (InfoWorld): http://bit.ly/oQMJ9NJul 21 15:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] When a company has something called "Labs" (like "Live labs" or "Mozilla lab"), then it's whitecoat PR, pretending to innovate by perceptionJul 21 15:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @agentsmith @schestowitz Yeah, I believe, with all the economic hardships US is on, politicians would be cheaper than patents...Jul 21 15:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] i'm doing good today ... haven't seen you for a while. How were exams? @maverickJul 21 15:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] My internet connection is on fire today! currently doing 10-14 KiBps :-P cc @nj3ma @kelzOKOJul 21 15:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] SwiftKey X for Android free today on Amazon App store - http://www.amazon.com/mobile-apps/b?ie=UTF8&node=2350149011 #fbJul 21 15:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] blinking is smiling in cat. Stare back and blink slowly. Cat will probably blink back. Don't bare your teeth (human smile) @jargonJul 21 15:25
schestowitzhttp://www.olpcnews.com/laptops/xo-3/the_olpc_xo-3_will_include_a_l.htmlJul 21 15:26
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schestowitzCOOL!Jul 21 15:26
schestowitzLaserJul 21 15:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] cats are just on a different schedule. They expend vast energy in short spurts; require sleeping between to recharge batteries, @sanderschJul 21 15:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @eebrah LOL i've never been compared to jetlag before! :DJul 21 15:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] good afternoon, @mcnaluJul 21 15:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @schestowitz Tell Google Not to Buy Software Patents http://ur1.ca/4r3u6 #swpats #google #nortelJul 21 15:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] fighting brushing up my #tc and #iptables kung-fu. it's been a while, but I seem to start remembering things. #fun fun fun.Jul 21 15:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] @eebrah Told you soJul 21 15:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Part of being a plumber is danger pay. When the sewer backed up into basement I moved in with my parents & left it to them @lstenchJul 21 15:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] Aaron Swartz charged with downloading too many articles? This is going a little crazy http://bit.ly/plIiqKJul 21 15:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] "A spokeswoman for JSTOR said Tuesday that Swartz had agreed to return all the articles so the company can ensure they aren't distributed."Jul 21 15:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] Hilarious: http://huff.to/q6gt7t Return the articles? They're not on paper!Jul 21 15:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] Downloading 5 million articles? Sounds like either adventurous hacking or a civil disobedience stunt http://huff.to/q6gt7tJul 21 15:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] When was he planning on reading these 5 million articles? I haven't read that many in my field yet ;) http://huff.to/q6gt7tJul 21 15:45
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schestowitzscheJul 21 15:46
ender_33Why are we advocating for AMD (microsoft gold partner) and bashing SUSE (subsidiary of a gold partner)Jul 21 15:46
ender_33??Jul 21 15:46
schestowitzschedule tomorrow is oddJul 21 15:46
schestowitzAMD does not pay Mcirosoft for LinuxJul 21 15:47
ender_33They pay Microsoft for Windows supportJul 21 15:47
ender_33including promoting materials from Microsoft, which bash and attack LinuxJul 21 15:47
ender_33promoting cards with fake direct x version numbersJul 21 15:48
ender_33promoting windows serversJul 21 15:48
schestowitzAFAIk, it's a mutual agreement to make drivers workJul 21 15:48
schestowitzI don't promote AMD and AMD promotes Linux tooJul 21 15:48
ender_33I haven't seen AMD promote LinuxJul 21 15:49
ender_33nowhere on their site at leastJul 21 15:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] @fabsh War. What is it good for if it's blocked in Germany?Jul 21 15:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] The second cup of !tea doesn't really affect me af;owdgk;ajsdf;jasdf;hads;asg;lasdgnvkjsdvas;skjvn;sdjgn jdkfsl!Jul 21 15:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] Revolver is on the turntable (ironic, eh?)Jul 21 15:55
schestowitz!google amd promotes linuxJul 21 16:03
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - IBM, Red Hat Promote Linux on Mainframes | PCWorld | http://www.pcworld.com/article/131710/ibm_red_hat_promote_linux_on_mainframes.htmlJul 21 16:03
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Linux Mint Forums • View topic - HOW TO PROMOTE LINUX MINT TO THE ... | http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php%3Ff%3D163%26t%3D44453%26start%3D0Jul 21 16:03
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - eRacks Open Source Systems: BSD and Linux Rackmount Servers | http://eracks.com/partners%3Fsession%3D34Jul 21 16:03
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Chip giants team up to promote Linux for consumer devices | TG Daily | http://www.tgdaily.com/software-features/50056-chip-giants-team-up-to-promote-linux-for-consumer-devicesJul 21 16:03
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ender_33I don't think google is a microsoft gold partnerJul 21 16:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Fedora 16 to have Grub2, #GNOME 3.2 and #KDE 4.7 http://ur1.ca/4r5eo "scheduled to be released at the end of October"Jul 21 16:07
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ender_33blogs.amd.com also have facebook links for commentingJul 21 16:08
ender_33facebook is tied to microsoftJul 21 16:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @portenkirchner: ... A T-Shirt for JS Devs by JS Devs http://nelm.io/shop/ !JS !Javascript cc @reality @nj3ma @kelzOKO @fredmanglisJul 21 16:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @schestowitz: #Fedora 16 to have Grub2, #GNOME 3.2 and #KDE 4.7 http://ur1.ca/4r5eo "scheduled to be released at the end of October"Jul 21 16:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @jargon: @eebrah check the context. i was talking about his discovery of "FTW" --- Oh, OK, carry on now. Nothing to see hereJul 21 16:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Luckily windows (the old fashioned non-microsoft kind) open for a reason. And fans. It was okay in a couple of days. @lstenchJul 21 16:17
ender_33http://pinpoint.microsoft.comJul 21 16:20
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ender_33good luck trying to find specific names of companies, their search sucksJul 21 16:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] I'm in !NYC with no phone and nowhere to be for 6 hours! What should I do? Who wants to hang out?Jul 21 16:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Red Hat Enterprise Linux 5.7 now available http://tinyurl.com/3vq9kbl #gnu #linux #redhat #rhel #software #microsoft #windowsJul 21 16:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Morning folks, hows things in your worlds today?Jul 21 16:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Managing Red Hat Enterprise Linux with YUM http://tinyurl.com/445akug #redhat #rhel #gnu #linux #yum #software #romaniaJul 21 16:32
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ender_33with YUM? LOLJul 21 16:32
ender_33yeah managing packagesJul 21 16:32
ender_33yum install packagename, yum remove packagename, yum update, yum search packagenameJul 21 16:33
ender_33doneJul 21 16:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #LawSociety takes on Solicitors from Hell website http://is.gd/RtPDBpJul 21 16:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @andyc: This, of course, is the same Steve Rubel who had multiple orgasms over Posterous then wanked himself stupid over Tumblr. Now G+.Jul 21 16:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Lawyer denies Greek piracy 'scam' #ACSLaw http://is.gd/DZ0qilJul 21 16:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Linux-Based Wireless Device Server http://tinyurl.com/3wtk2t6 #gnu #linux #wireless #hardware #softwareJul 21 16:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] coffee, do your thingJul 21 16:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Irish political classes lose their fear of the #Catholic church http://is.gd/SaMk94 - it's about time they grew ballsJul 21 16:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Irish political classes lose their fear of the Catholic church | Henry McDonald | Politics | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 230.86 KBJul 21 16:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Fedora 16 to have Grub2, GNOME 3.2 and KDE 4.7 http://tinyurl.com/3fgdra5 #fedora #gnu #linux #software #kde #gnome #grub #romaniaJul 21 16:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Cameron seems to have a conflict of interest in the whole #Murdoch #NewsCorp scandal http://is.gd/hxqItO he can't help but try to dodgeJul 21 16:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @meegoexperts Samsung launches new Super-Light N100 Netbook running MeeGo http://mge.bz/gH #MeeGo #Samsung #NetBook #India #IntelJul 21 16:55
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: David Cameron spoke to Rupert Murdoch's executives about BSkyB bid | Politics | The Guardian .::. Size~: 138.33 KBJul 21 16:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] the !fsf should run a ryzom server :DJul 21 16:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] typical political move, deny until evidence comes out, then admit what they now know & deny the rest, #repeat until story diesJul 21 16:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] shall we just cut to the chase and assume #Cameron is guilty of all accusations around #NewsCorp? it'd save time & hassle with denial gamesJul 21 16:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] ♺ @thistleweb: typical political move, deny until evidence comes out, then admit what they now know & deny the rest, #repeat til story diesJul 21 16:58
schestowitzender_33: yo forgot yum cache and other functionsJul 21 16:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] 12 Things You See Every Day That Wouldn't Exist Without #Linux http://www.businessinsider.com/linux-based-devices-2011-7Jul 21 17:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Interview: Claire Rowland of Fjord London on user experience and design | http://red.ht/ogSgeN @clurrJul 21 17:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] 12 Things You See Every Day That Wouldn't Exist Without #Linux http://tinyurl.com/3jap3q3 #gnu #software #hardwareJul 21 17:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] Elementary OS: A True User-Friendly #Linux http://walyou.com/user-friendly-linux/Jul 21 17:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] Linux Australia to tweak constitution http://bit.ly/puQg3u #linuxJul 21 17:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Ubuntu Community Week continues! Join live and energize your LoCo team at http://is.gd/MimAUm #ubuntuJul 21 17:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] Linux Foundation Releases New White Paper on FOSS Compliance for Suppliers http://bit.ly/rbW0mr #opensourceJul 21 17:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] SUSE Launches Next Generation of Award-Winning SUSE Studio http://prn.to/ohKOVSJul 21 17:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Microsoft's 8th largest private shareholder and #mole inside #Nokia (acting as CEO) kills Nokia http://ur1.ca/4r5sg http://ur1.ca/4r5snJul 21 17:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] #Linux Foundation Releases New White Paper on #FOSS Compliance for Suppliers http://tinyurl.com/3rzrpun #gnu #software #hardware #romaniaJul 21 17:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] New open source initiative for automotive software development launched http://bit.ly/pxiVV5 #opensourceJul 21 17:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] Bizprof: Free, open source software can benefit businesses http://www.scrippsnews.com/node/62979 #opensourceJul 21 17:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] Indian open source community, biggest in the World http://bit.ly/ncHBK7 #opensourceJul 21 17:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @aprilorg "Projet de loi consommation : des députés s'inquiètent de la vente liée" http://ur1.ca/4r5en !aprilJul 21 17:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] Open Source Developers Can Make Money From In-App Payments http://www.muktware.com/news/1931 #opensourceJul 21 17:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz #Fedora 16 to have Grub2, #GNOME 3.2 and #KDE 4.7 http://ur1.ca/4r5eo "scheduled to be released at the end of October"Jul 21 17:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] Patents and lawsuits threatening the free world of software http://bit.ly/pPheYyJul 21 17:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Mario does damage [IMG] http://i.imgur.com/14Bd7.jpgJul 21 17:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Google street cars are as "undercover" as someone dressed as a Klingon at a funeral of a non-TrekkieJul 21 17:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Mozilla seeks the enterprise love http://tinyurl.com/3q9a7yy #mozilla #firefox #thunderbird #romania #softwareJul 21 17:20
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schestowitzThe weather has been appalling for the past 2 weeks. When it gets all nice it should be possible to do some runs (maybe Salford area)Jul 21 17:21
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schestowitzit should be possible to  finish the site, too...Jul 21 17:22
schestowitzI'll be away for a week next week.Jul 21 17:24
schestowitzwe need IRC modsJul 21 17:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @rsandu: @schestowitz #Ubuntu is already a commodity, even for PC shops in (still) Microsoft-dominated Romania...Jul 21 17:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Hackers claim to breach NATO security http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-07-hackers-breach-nato.html #nato #securityJul 21 17:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] #AOLOL - laughing out loud at the thought of AOL... And its modern counterparts.Jul 21 17:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] RT @meegoexperts Samsung launches new Super-Light N100 Netbook running MeeGo http://mge.bz/gH #MeeGo #Samsung #NetBook #India #IntelJul 21 17:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] more Star Wars swag http://coffee.jezra.net/coffee/20110721 #sip_and_clickJul 21 17:28
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schestowitzI see snit is still aroundJul 21 17:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] can #HeyBuddy be set to only show notifications when it's an @ reply? I get either none or allJul 21 17:30
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schestowitzI've just received a response from DiBona, their FOSS managerJul 21 17:41
schestowitzAfter mailing Google about patent policyJul 21 17:42
schestowitz"Jul 21 17:45
schestowitz> Hi guys;Jul 21 17:45
schestowitz> Jul 21 17:45
schestowitz> Roy, we sympathize, but at the same time, you don't bring goodJul 21 17:45
schestowitz> intentions to a knife fight. We're going to have to both fight to changeJul 21 17:45
schestowitz> software patents while defending ourselves during patent litigationJul 21 17:45
schestowitz> using every too at our disposal.Jul 21 17:45
schestowitz> Jul 21 17:45
schestowitz> ChrisJul 21 17:45
schestowitzThanks for the sincere answer. I hope that Google will continue to help reform the system, not just one patent at a time but also at a national level.  This is the #1 threat to software freedom at the moment. It will increasingly be used against FOSS as FOSS takes over more market segments.Jul 21 17:45
schestowitzOne thing that will get Google a lot of points/credecne (GSOC aside) is public motion to eliminate software patents. I saw that twice before from Google even though it was subtle. Red Hat does that a little more openly, at times with an amicus brief.Jul 21 17:45
schestowitz"Jul 21 17:45
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/79374439Jul 21 17:47
TechrightsBot-tr@Răzvan Sandu (rsandu)'s status on Thursday, 21-Jul-11 16:43:26 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Unfortunately, inexperienced Romanian salesmen often install Ubuntu badly, just to sell non-Windows computersJul 21 17:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The Open Source Programs Manager for Google has responded to me to reassure that #Google will continue to antagonise #swpatsJul 21 17:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz The Open Source Programs Manager for Google has responded to me to reassure that #Google will continue to antagonise #swpatsJul 21 17:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @richslxh Howto Quick Wpa2 Wireless Tkip/Psk CLI - No Gui http://richs-lxh.com/howto-quick-n-easy-manual-wireless-wpa2-psk/ !debianJul 21 17:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @fontana I'd love to finally get you on LO to talk about Harmony et al. Still interested? :)Jul 21 17:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Tim Berners-Lee: „Trăiască World Wide Web-ul” http://tinyurl.com/3mtr4me #opendata #openstandards #romania #tblJul 21 18:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Un Web îngrădit, pentru autocrați nervoși http://tinyurl.com/44qox8n #web #russiaJul 21 18:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @doctorow: Pls RT! Act now! Congress wants to kill WiFi-like spectrum, sell it off to highest bidder instead http://t.co/jztR40yJul 21 18:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] Joy. Oldest sprained his knee. Ice pack time on hottest day of the year...Jul 21 18:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Security advisories for Thursday http://lwn.net/Articles/452420/rssJul 21 18:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] Philica, an interesting #open_access publisher http://bit.ly/nFVMAhJul 21 18:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Ubuntu 10.04.3 LTS Is Available for Download http://tinyurl.com/437xpxz #ubuntu #gnu #linux #software #securityJul 21 18:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] #Top 10 Fastest #Linux-based #Supercomputers in the World http://t.co/U9RO7PkJul 21 18:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] Wow, I really did not expect that shell script to work; I guess I know how to use 'case'Jul 21 18:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Deep packet inspection used to stop censorship in new "Telex" scheme: http://t.co/9Tbt8Kq by @binarybitsJul 21 18:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Google+ pentru Android http://p.ost.im/p/eeJTdq #google #androidJul 21 18:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Economics of JSTOR - http://bit.ly/oikOl6 interesting analysis #jstor #swartzJul 21 18:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Join me in a few minutes for a live Q+A about creating, joining, and running Ubuntu LoCo Teams - http://is.gd/MimAUm #ubuntu #locoteamsJul 21 18:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] I dig Kiss, but boy, did the produce a lot of filler content. The songs that rock though, hell, they rock good and hard. :-) #kissJul 21 18:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @nybill: !LO gets a mention in Linux Journal this month. Complete with a "explicit language warning". See what you've done, @fabsh. he heJul 21 18:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] #IBM says Bank of #Russia is new S/z customer, consolidated 200 dist #Linux servers to 4 Linux mainframes. Cites $400M savings/year. #gnuJul 21 18:55
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ender_33http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SigintJul 21 18:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] » @fabsh » @nybill: #LO gets a mention in #Linux Journal this month. Complete with a "explicit language warning"Jul 21 19:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] VLC Media Player 1.1.11 closes heap overflow holes http://tinyurl.com/3dqbjan #security #vlc #audio #musicJul 21 19:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Cum îți dai seama că ai fost spart ? http://bit.ly/ogFbsE #security #webJul 21 19:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] cost of spurning #GM crops is too high - http://bit.ly/nc3qgP strange: completely overlooks herbicide resistance spreading from GM cropsJul 21 19:03
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schestowitzender_33: yes, I've heard of thoseJul 21 19:04
schestowitzWhat do you make of it?Jul 21 19:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] @fabsh That's awesome; congrats on the warning!Jul 21 19:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @fabsh Sure, I determined it was ok even tho' you classify yourself a #journalist, plus Jim #Whitehurst established !lo precedent.Jul 21 19:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] Mozilla Gets to Work on Enterprise Firefox Support http://bit.ly/pFbpj7Jul 21 19:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Tell @hhsgov & @mnhealth: Stop funding Bachmann's anti- #gay clinic with my taxpayer dollars! http://bit.ly/oO1zNe @CMSGov #p2 #lgbtJul 21 19:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] #lo #Linux is everywhere in our day to day #life - http://www.businessinsider.com/linux-based-devices-2011-7Jul 21 19:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The #Commons as an Antidote to Relentless #Growth - http://bit.ly/pjJL6q this is the #future - if we are going to have one...Jul 21 19:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #usa #darpa #nexus7 http://bit.ly/mWLXh3Jul 21 19:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Numeric Relativity with the Einstein Toolkit • by Joey Bernard http://ping.fm/yPFaaJul 21 19:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Rick Perry doesn't understand that Jesus doesn't stop teen sex http://ur1.ca/4r6naJul 21 19:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Public special ed employee has $0 paycheck after health insurance deductions http://ur1.ca/4r6nfJul 21 19:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Act now! Congress wants to kill WiFi-like spectrum, sell it off to highest bidder instead http://ur1.ca/4r6nnJul 21 19:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Atlantis: photos, video of final shuttle mission landing http://ur1.ca/4r6nu !scienceJul 21 19:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] EX-CE-LEN-TE http://j.mp/onztL4Jul 21 19:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Anonymous Hack One Gigabyte of Data From NATO http://ur1.ca/4r6q0Jul 21 19:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Surprising report reveals #Android's 30% #tablet share - http://bit.ly/nW5hca seems high; hugely impressive if trueJul 21 19:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] $4.5 billion dollar waste of time http://ur1.ca/4r6qeJul 21 19:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Enterprise crew at the Shuttle Enterprise, 1976 http://ur1.ca/4r6qg !miotd !scienceJul 21 19:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] 30-year space shuttle era to end with Atlantis STS-135 landing http://ur1.ca/4r6r2 !scienceJul 21 19:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Post-9/11 hate killer Mark Stroman executed in Texas http://ur1.ca/4r6raJul 21 19:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Jury Acquits Citizens of Illegally Filming Police ry Acquits Citizens of Illegally Filming Police http://ur1.ca/4r6rjJul 21 19:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Life in Rebekah Brooks's newsroom http://ur1.ca/4r6rnJul 21 19:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] HTeaML: A superbly traditional event for London Web developers http://hacks.mozilla.org/2011/07/hteaml-a-superbly-traditional-event-for-londJul 21 19:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Every Day, Something I Find Online Brings Me To Tears - http://bit.ly/qGKF1n great links, great post, great pointJul 21 19:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Gatekeepers And The Economy - http://bit.ly/oRCIkR this, in a nutshell, is the problemJul 21 19:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] RT @glynmoody Gatekeepers And The Economy - http://bit.ly/oRCIkR this, in a nutshell, is the problemJul 21 19:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] OKF at the Open Government Partnership - http://bit.ly/o7NtCc nice idea; pity about the Western #hypocrisy... #censorshipJul 21 19:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @fontana Neat! @methoddan can we fit @fontana in the interview-marathon next week?Jul 21 19:43
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ender_33schestowitz - thats info about global surveillance technologyJul 21 19:46
ender_33http://www.itproportal.com/2011/07/20/fake-apple-stores-mushrooming-china-no-iphone-5-inside/Jul 21 19:46
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ender_33LOLJul 21 19:46
ender_33the chinese copy everythingJul 21 19:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @fabsh @methoddan Next week might be difficult though because I am at !OSCONJul 21 19:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Hubble spies fourth moon at Pluto http://ur1.ca/4r0fp !scienceJul 21 19:47
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ender_33whats next, fake nuclear reactors that really burn coal?Jul 21 19:47
ender_33:)Jul 21 19:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #LulzSec says it will partner with media on Murdoch emails - http://bit.ly/mXwJn6 wonder where the got that idea from? #wikileaksJul 21 20:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] how #Cisco's "unmitigated gall" derailed one man's life - http://bit.ly/pkcsgl more abuse of extradition by US: why O'Dwyer must not goJul 21 20:13
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schestowitz[19:47] <ender_33> whats next, fake nuclear reactors that really burn coal?Jul 21 20:15
schestowitzNo branding to be copiedJul 21 20:15
schestowitzI bet it's just as good as those iPhones, but with lower quality controlJul 21 20:15
schestowitzitporportal I know quite well for its Microsoft boosting since years agoJul 21 20:15
cubezzzschestowitz, quick questionJul 21 20:16
cubezzzI know you've talked about Microsoft and Intel and the bad stuff they did, but how do you feel about IBM?Jul 21 20:16
schestowitzI don't like IBM too much. But my grandpa loves them and made some money from IBM back in the days, so I have mixed feelings.Jul 21 20:17
schestowitzBTW, today I found out that my old friend (since 1st year in uni) has gone back to CanadaJul 21 20:17
schestowitzcubezzz: remember that without IBM it's pssible that Linux would not have taken offJul 21 20:17
schestowitzI think it was that Irving guy who told IBM leaders that they should invest in Linux while IBM was still clinging on to a lot of proprietary stuffJul 21 20:18
ender_3315:15 < schestowitz> No branding to be copiedJul 21 20:18
ender_3315:15 < schestowitz> I bet it's just as good as those iPhones, but with lower  quality controlJul 21 20:18
ender_33actually noJul 21 20:18
ender_33they are copying brandingJul 21 20:18
schestowitzyesJul 21 20:18
schestowitzBut how are those phones?Jul 21 20:18
cubezzzthey made some pretty good computers tooJul 21 20:18
ender_33I just watched a videoJul 21 20:18
schestowitzWhat components are these made from?Jul 21 20:18
ender_33the phone suck compared to the real versionsJul 21 20:18
schestowitzI think they install some Android variants on thoseJul 21 20:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @magicfab: Sad to see TinyOgg.com go :| #fsf #eff #libre #facil http://is.gd/zxsgDmJul 21 20:18
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schestowitzIn the past they use some other Linux-based platformsJul 21 20:18
ender_33of course they would, cause it costs nothingJul 21 20:19
schestowitzAt least those phones don't attack usersJul 21 20:19
schestowitzDenying them access to a shell for exampleJul 21 20:19
ender_33china is all about plagerism, copying people and stealingJul 21 20:19
schestowitzstealing?Jul 21 20:19
ender_33yesJul 21 20:19
schestowitzLook at China's growthJul 21 20:19
schestowitzChina doesn't need to stealJul 21 20:19
ender_33well then they should fire their crackersJul 21 20:20
schestowitzBe thankful that China must be borrowing money to CanadiansJul 21 20:20
schestowitzIf it were not for China, were would you get a cheap PC?Jul 21 20:20
ender_33im not thankful of anything that comes from ChinaJul 21 20:20
schestowitzWho would process all the recyclable metals cheaply?Jul 21 20:20
ender_33thanks to them, i get faultier hardwareJul 21 20:20
schestowitzWe'll pay the price laterJul 21 20:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @glynmoody: how #Cisco's "unmitigated gall" derailed one man's life - http://bit.ly/pkcsgl more abuse of extradition by USJul 21 20:20
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schestowitzNow we get cheap electronicsJul 21 20:20
schestowitzBut we buy those with borrowed moneyJul 21 20:20
schestowitzAnd we make outselves dependent on ChinaJul 21 20:20
schestowitz!google china prcent rare earthJul 21 20:21
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - U.S., EU Criticize China After Rare-Earth Export Quota Changed ... | http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-07-15/u-s-eu-criticize-china-after-rare-earth-export-quota-changed.htmlJul 21 20:21
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Japan May rare earth imports from China down 3 pct m/m | Reuters | http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/06/29/japan-rareearth-imports-idUSL3E7HT06X20110629Jul 21 20:21
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ender_33every motherboard maker for example who used to have them made in taiwan have gone down in qualityJul 21 20:21
ender_33china can go fuck itself, its stolen our jobs, our factories and it steals our secretsJul 21 20:21
schestowitzCompaed to..?Jul 21 20:21
ender_33compared to motherboards NOT made in chinaJul 21 20:21
schestowitzit DIDN'T steal jobJul 21 20:21
schestowitz1. it doesn't steal ideasJul 21 20:21
ender_33yes, china did steal jobsJul 21 20:21
schestowitzIdeas cannot be stolenJul 21 20:21
schestowitzThey can be sharedJul 21 20:21
ender_33GATT TreatyJul 21 20:21
schestowitz2. THey DID NOT steal our jobsJul 21 20:21
ender_33stop defending the communistsJul 21 20:22
schestowitzWe gave them out jobsJul 21 20:22
schestowitzWe gave them many jobs we did not wantJul 21 20:22
ender_33bullshit, theres plenty of people who would argue that with you who lost their jobs hereJul 21 20:22
schestowitzAnd rich scum sent jobs there to get richer and let us just borrow from China for having no jobs hereJul 21 20:22
schestowitzThe Chinese are just happy to get paid and not to be overworkedJul 21 20:22
schestowitzI had some Chinese colleagues and also a Chinese g/fJul 21 20:22
schestowitzShe went back to ChinaJul 21 20:22
ender_33I have chinese friendsJul 21 20:23
schestowitzAnd they are nice diligent peopleJul 21 20:23
ender_33none of them like ChinaJul 21 20:23
ender_33im not attacking the peopleJul 21 20:23
schestowitzSo stop playing along with this blame gamwJul 21 20:23
schestowitzThey work their arse off like you never can imagineJul 21 20:23
ender_33im attacking the government, the communist party that runs it, and all the globalists who are going to turn the rest of us into chinaJul 21 20:23
schestowitzAnd with their production they hold our pampered lifestyle on their shouldersJul 21 20:23
cubezzzyes Jul 21 20:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] W\hy does a mirror flips left and right, but not up and down http://ur1.ca/4r728Jul 21 20:23
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cubezzzI don't think we even make shoes in CanadaJul 21 20:24
schestowitzYou spit having been on the recipients' end for 30 years almostJul 21 20:24
ender_33no, you're just mad because im attacking a communist countryJul 21 20:24
cubezzznever mind computersJul 21 20:24
MinceRthey took our jerrrbs!Jul 21 20:24
schestowitzAnd now it's comign to an end hereJul 21 20:24
schestowitzSo youi start attacking those who gave you a lifestyleJul 21 20:24
schestowitzIt's their turn to enjoy nowJul 21 20:24
schestowitz[20:22] <ender_33> stop defending the communistsJul 21 20:24
schestowitzit's not their choiceJul 21 20:24
ender_33whatever roy, I know what side of the fence you are onJul 21 20:24
schestowitzDo you think Chinese workers chose this?Jul 21 20:24
ender_33yesJul 21 20:25
schestowitzThey get crushed by tanks if they manage to even find information about what goes on and get as mad as HellJul 21 20:25
ender_33the ones who don't leave and go to a better countryJul 21 20:25
schestowitz[20:23] <ender_33> im attacking the government, the communist party that runs it, and all the globalists who are going to turn the rest of us into chinaJul 21 20:25
ender_33even poor people are leaving chinaJul 21 20:25
schestowitzThat's another issue altogetherJul 21 20:25
schestowitzSo who "steals" jobs then?Jul 21 20:25
schestowitzLet's be preciseJul 21 20:25
schestowitzMaybe the Michael Dells of the world who collude with Chinese capitalistsJul 21 20:26
schestowitzNot communistsJul 21 20:26
ender_33the chinese government and the globalists who are cooperating with themJul 21 20:26
schestowitzIn China it's communism for the poor, capitalism for the rulersJul 21 20:26
schestowitzIn Canada there's lots of Chinese in VancouverJul 21 20:26
schestowitzI had a neighbour from thereJul 21 20:27
ender_33yeah and in vancouver there are communist monumentsJul 21 20:27
schestowitzWhat about Russians in Toronoto?Jul 21 20:27
ender_33one of them is MaoJul 21 20:27
schestowitzYou seem to be seeing "communism" everywhereJul 21 20:28
ender_33what about Russians in Toronto?Jul 21 20:28
schestowitzMaybe you worry about the wrong thingaJul 21 20:28
ender_33I'd point out there are also communist monuments in Toronto as wellJul 21 20:28
schestowitzOr blaming the wrong thingaJul 21 20:28
schestowitzSome say the only war is class warJul 21 20:28
schestowitzAlthough..Jul 21 20:28
schestowitzSome people in the very same class are prepared to kill each otherJul 21 20:28
schestowitzOver controlJul 21 20:28
schestowitzSo it's not as simple as one might put itJul 21 20:28
ender_33I grew up poor and fought my way out of itJul 21 20:29
schestowitzAnd if you equate class war to idealogical war, then you're missing the pointJul 21 20:29
ender_33I don't want to go backJul 21 20:29
schestowitzI congratulate you on thatJul 21 20:29
schestowitzYou are a free thinker now and it's commendable Jul 21 20:29
ender_3315:29 < schestowitz> And if you equate class war to idealogical war, then  you're missing the pointJul 21 20:29
schestowitzBut I don't know where you get your infoJul 21 20:29
ender_33howJul 21 20:29
schestowitzYou seem to be pointing fingers at some wrong groupsJul 21 20:29
ender_33marxism is an ideologyJul 21 20:30
schestowitzJust cause some books incited you to do soJul 21 20:30
ender_33whats the alternative roy?Jul 21 20:30
schestowitzYou need to read it critically, also what techrights writesJul 21 20:30
schestowitzAnd MurdochJul 21 20:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Aaron Swartz Indictment Leading People To Upload JSTOR Research To File Sharing Sites - http://bit.ly/nTdILF appropriate it's Royal SocietyJul 21 20:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] 33GB of public domain JSTOR articles, and a manifesto http://ur1.ca/4r72iJul 21 20:30
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ender_33those 'some books' which incited me, the other alternative is 'mainstream books' written by authors on grantsJul 21 20:30
schestowitzMarxism is a person's philosophyJul 21 20:30
schestowitzIt gets associated with many schools of thoughtJul 21 20:31
schestowitzAnd Marx wasn't firstJul 21 20:31
schestowitzHe just Branded{tm} itJul 21 20:31
ender_33marx got it from hessJul 21 20:31
ender_33from there waishauptJul 21 20:31
schestowitzLike other people become synonymous or mononyms of some ideasJul 21 20:31
ender_33from there, rothschildJul 21 20:31
schestowitzDawkins for exampleJul 21 20:31
schestowitz"Darwinism"Jul 21 20:31
schestowitzOr wasn;'t firstJul 21 20:31
ender_33international bankingJul 21 20:31
schestowitzEven the ancient Greek had similar theoriesJul 21 20:31
ender_33Darwinism is a termJul 21 20:31
schestowitzThe Greek also theorised the world beign roundJul 21 20:32
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schestowitzDarwin is a nameJul 21 20:32
schestowitzDarwinism is like a brandJul 21 20:32
schestowitzDawkinism?Jul 21 20:32
schestowitzEinsteinism?Jul 21 20:32
schestowitzBushism?Jul 21 20:32
schestowitzIt's just a phrase and I think the Creationist folks made that up to characterise evolution (i.e. reality) as a religionJul 21 20:33
ender_33http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DarwinismJul 21 20:33
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schestowitz"The meaning of "Darwinism" has changed over time, and varies depending on who is using the term.[4] In the United States, the term "Darwinism" is often used by creationists as a pejorative term, but in the United Kingdom the term has no negative connotations, being freely used as a short hand for the body of theory dealing with evolution, and in particular, evolution by natural selection.[5]"Jul 21 20:33
schestowitzSee?Jul 21 20:33
schestowitzI told youJul 21 20:33
schestowitzIn the US it's a weasel termJul 21 20:34
ender_33but in the United  Kingdom the term has no negative connotationsJul 21 20:34
schestowitzHere in the UK Darwin is on our moneyJul 21 20:34
schestowitzUnlike the "In God we Trust" that used to exist in the USJul 21 20:34
ender_33well english is a language that changesJul 21 20:34
ender_33im sure lots of ism's will be madeJul 21 20:34
schestowitzyou can always extend itJul 21 20:35
schestowitzBut the extensibility depends on accetanceJul 21 20:35
schestowitzThen it can enter dictionaries and be admitted as a work, like "google [v.]"Jul 21 20:35
schestowitz*wordJul 21 20:35
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ender_33so how am I supposed to do research Roy?Jul 21 20:36
ender_33where is the approved list of sourcesJul 21 20:36
ender_33cause the way I see it, nothing written after WW2 has been very honestJul 21 20:36
ender_33I can't trust anything that comes from the government or news mediaJul 21 20:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Deus Ex: Human Revolution trailer - http://bit.ly/q7KYBW remember: this is only a game - *at the moment* #future #monopoliesJul 21 20:37
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ender_33yet, im just supposed to blindly  believe that crap?Jul 21 20:37
schestowitz[20:36] <ender_33> where is the approved list of sourcesJul 21 20:38
schestowitzWhat about?Jul 21 20:38
ender_33anythingJul 21 20:38
schestowitzYou're probably best off with the stuff behind paywallsJul 21 20:38
schestowitzNot "DailyMail"Jul 21 20:38
schestowitzMurdoch junkJul 21 20:38
ender_33you said I read books which incite me, where am I supposed to get infoJul 21 20:38
schestowitzThey also distort the message of papers they referenceJul 21 20:38
schestowitzSometimes intentionallyJul 21 20:38
ender_33I know they have a biasJul 21 20:39
schestowitzYou can read journals from before 1939Jul 21 20:39
schestowitzAnd before the genocidesJul 21 20:39
schestowitzFind out about Americans who supported the NazisJul 21 20:39
schestowitzWith funds and encouragementJul 21 20:39
schestowitzFor the Nazi partyJul 21 20:39
schestowitzAnd American antagonism to joining the EUropean warJul 21 20:40
schestowitzLet me search for a butJul 21 20:40
schestowitz*bitJul 21 20:40
ender_33I know some of the Americans who supported the nazisJul 21 20:40
ender_33like prescott bushJul 21 20:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] RT @x11r5 Godaddy has one hell of a pasta sauce was incorrect. I'm very sad i didn't understand that fully..Jul 21 20:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] RT @diablod3 Hubble spies fourth moon at Pluto http://ur1.ca/4r0fp !scienceJul 21 20:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kernellogauthor/@kernellogauthor] #LKML #qotd from Mel Gorman: "Warning: Long post with lots of figures. If you normally drink coffee and you don't have a cup, […]"Jul 21 20:40
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ender_33however he wasnt doing it for the nazisJul 21 20:40
ender_33it was for globalizationJul 21 20:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kernellogauthor/@kernellogauthor] "[…] get one or you may end up with a case of keyboard face." http://bit.ly/rfHYG9"Jul 21 20:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is psquid with 137 dents!Jul 21 20:42
ender_33bringing the world together under one bannerJul 21 20:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Antipiracy groups claim rogue Web sites can kill - http://cnet.co/na1Kpj fails to distinguish between analogue counterfeits & digital piracyJul 21 20:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] MT @zooko @Asher_Wolf Maybe somebody should start "JSTOR leaks wiki" where people can share & organize all their copies of science articlesJul 21 20:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Arriving in Portland tomorrow night for #cls11? Be sure to join us for an informal gathering at 7.30pm at http://www.spiritof77bar.com/Jul 21 20:48
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ender_33we even learned in canadian school how the americans would sell weapons to both sides of the world wars until they got involved (attacked)Jul 21 20:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Coming to #oscon this weekend? Join us at http://www.spiritof77bar.com/ tomorrow night for an informal gathering at 7.30pm before #cls11Jul 21 20:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] RT @tedks @reality Use #OCaml, the spine tingling is from it being awesomeJul 21 20:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Education’s Napster Moment - http://bit.ly/oKsbdy "The path to knowledge does not end on the day of graduation." interestingJul 21 20:55
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ender_33schestowitz - on another note, Bell Executives must be happy with the weather todayJul 21 20:55
ender_33its as hot as _hell_Jul 21 20:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] blogged: !Copyright and Me - my personal axe to grind http://ur1.ca/4r77mJul 21 21:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] [Re-]Introducing Greg Grossmeier, Education Technology & Policy Coordinator http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/28360Jul 21 21:08
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ender_33schestowitz - also regarding the point of China lending us money - we have many trillions in natural resources we can exploit once we get rid of eco fascist David SuzukiJul 21 21:14
ender_33Canada shouldn't be borrowing moneyJul 21 21:14
ender_33It should be spending less and using its own resourcesJul 21 21:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Happy Birthday, Amy (... you may be older than you were yesterday but you're still a baby :) @gamerchick02Jul 21 21:17
ender_33Canada census came to my house the other dayJul 21 21:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] "Son do you have any idea why we are stopping you?"Jul 21 21:18
ender_33I told them to go fuck themselvesJul 21 21:18
ender_33it was funJul 21 21:19
ender_33'I read an article that says you guys enforced the law 3 times and each was thrown out of court. The same article said the conservative government was planning not to enforce the law this time'Jul 21 21:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !InconstantMoon serialization 55 is online here : http://ur1.ca/4qzxn but if you've missed it, begin at the beginning: http://ur1.ca/4auw1Jul 21 21:20
ender_33They probably don't like that I answered the paper form upside down and used math equations for number answersJul 21 21:20
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ender_33The law didn't dictate *how* I answeredJul 21 21:20
ender_33goforbes28 - did you do your census?Jul 21 21:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] "Coz am young and am black,and am wearing my cap real low. Am sorry officer I am not a mind reader, I don't know"Jul 21 21:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] "Nah, I ain't pass the bar but i know a little bit Enough that you won't illegally search my shit"Jul 21 21:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] apologies for as yet unresolved rss problems with !InconstantMoon rss feed... (plug-in starts blog at the beginning rather than most recent)Jul 21 21:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] "We'll see how smart you are when the K9 come"Jul 21 21:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @tekk @laurelrusswurm ah, copyright. Where you're not legally allowed to watch an episode of a canadian show which you wroteJul 21 21:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk yup.Jul 21 21:25
ender_33Wicked, Eric Raymond is on G+Jul 21 21:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] I grew in low cost council houses out East, Fucker you loco asses cant tell me shit,Jul 21 21:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] http://ur1.ca/4r7d4 is lovely @reality ... I, of course, wonder why I had to give NoScript permissionsTWICE to play an ogg file though ?Jul 21 21:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @laurelrusswurm: !InconstantMoon serialization 55 is online here : http://ur1.ca/4qzxn or begin at the beginning: http://ur1.ca/4auw1Jul 21 21:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] "You don't have any idea the scary shit I've lived thro',In 3 lifetimes still wouldn't be scared of you"Jul 21 21:38
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sebsebsebHiJul 21 21:44
ender_33Hi HIJul 21 21:44
sebsebsebender_33: hiJul 21 21:46
ender_33whats upJul 21 21:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Amelia Andersdotter is a good read even in Google Translation: "Multiculturalism and the Left" by @teirdes http://ur1.ca/4r7fkJul 21 21:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Can a Playground Be Too Safe? - NYTimes.com http://ping.fm/30FxwJul 21 22:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @StopActaNow Mex. Minister of Economy, @BrunoFerrariG, meets with US Chamber of Commerce day after #ACTA is rejected by Mexican SenateJul 21 22:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] boingboing's Mark Frauenfelder: "children do best in two-parent households, regardless of the parents’ gender" http://ur1.ca/4r7ipJul 21 22:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @ruv Just heard on radio that #Toronto's heat index just hit 51 degrees Celsius / 123.8 Fahrenheit. Someone say climate change? >>yikesJul 21 22:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] if @leorockway and I rebooted !rmsgnulinux, would you prefer !icecat or !seamonkey? Both use the same rendering engine so no worries on spedJul 21 22:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[copiesofcopies/@copiesofcopies] Hey developers: Karen Sandler and I are giving talk on legal basics for #FLOSS developers at #OSCON. What would/do you want to hear about?Jul 21 22:20
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schestowitz[20:55] <ender_33> schestowitz - on another note, Bell Executives must be happy with the weather todayJul 21 22:22
schestowitzwhy does Google message me about those?Jul 21 22:22
schestowitzI didn't ope INJul 21 22:22
schestowitz*optJul 21 22:22
schestowitz[21:20] <ender_33> They probably don't like that I answered the paper form upside down and used math equations for number answersJul 21 22:23
schestowitzLOLJul 21 22:23
schestowitz[21:30] <ender_33> Wicked, Eric Raymond is on G+Jul 21 22:23
schestowitzLinus T as wellJul 21 22:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Copyhype "Spotify: What the EFF?" http://ur1.ca/4r7mgJul 21 22:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk Yes, absolutely ... but that was what the link was for :) I couldn't fit the title and the quote, and i opted for the quote.Jul 21 22:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk 2 parents is best, regardless of gender, because when one wants to throttle the progeny the other one stops them :)Jul 21 22:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk okay, maybe they were just lookong for an excuse to caption it "what the eff" ;)Jul 21 22:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #JamesMurdoch evidence questioned by former executives http://is.gd/3OEDWk - this is why they shoulda been questioned under oathJul 21 22:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pumpkin/@pumpkin] !WikiLeaks : Campagne des E.U. pour maintenir Aristide en exil ! http://ur1.ca/4r7ofJul 21 22:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] New Application Switcher, Ambiance With Dark Toolbars [Ubuntu Oneiric Updates] http://ur1.ca/4r7osJul 21 22:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Wait a minute... lawyers aren't supposed to be *funny* - Howard Knopf: "A Kaddish for Ketzel, the Komposer" http://ur1.ca/4r7ou !copyrightJul 21 22:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] yes, of course, you're a parent ;) @expatpaulJul 21 22:40
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schestowitzHehe http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/mar/14/germany-new-boom-making-stuffJul 21 22:40
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schestowitz"Now – following the most successful year for Europe's biggest economy since the euphoria that followed reunification two decades ago – that looks like the sort of prediction English football fans make ahead of each World Cup: premature.."Jul 21 22:41
schestowitz"2010 was our best ever year," says Jurgen de Graeve, Audi's head of communications. "At the beginning of last year it was clear the market was about to turn up but we didn't expect it to happen so fast."Jul 21 22:42
schestowitz"The skewed nature of Germany's growth is also a concern. Unemployment is falling, and in rich states such as Bavaria it is below 5%, but there are few signs yet of a classic export-led revival broadening into a pick up in wages and consumption."Jul 21 22:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] cooool... "Sprinkler" Photography by Sheila Creighton http://ur1.ca/4r7plJul 21 22:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] just don't drink milk ;D @ghostdancer ... g'nightJul 21 22:43
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schestowitzThat relates to problems here..Jul 21 22:44
schestowitz"The first is Germany's economic and political structure. Prosperity is far more widely spread across the country, with none of the excessive concentration of wealth in one region found in Britain. There is an emphasis on long-term growth rather than flipping assets, and boom-busts in the housing market are unknown."Jul 21 22:44
schestowitz3.3 tr GDPJul 21 22:46
schestowitzUK's is 2.2Jul 21 22:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #WebUpd8: New Application Switcher, #Ambiance With Dark Toolbars - !Ubuntu #Oneiric Updates http://goo.gl/CwYwoJul 21 22:47
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schestowitzUS: 14.7Jul 21 22:47
schestowitzhttp://hdr.undp.org/en/media/HDR_2010_EN_Tables_reprint.pdfJul 21 22:48
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schestowitzSee page 3 ender_33Jul 21 22:49
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schestowitzSee aksi http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Journal_of_Natural_HistoryJul 21 22:50
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schestowitzhttp://www.gbhap.com/journals/titles/00222933.aspJul 21 22:50
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schestowitzNo open access thoughJul 21 22:50
schestowitzhttp://www.gbhap.com/journals/journal.asp?issn=0022-2933&linktype=ratesJul 21 22:51
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schestowitzGBP: 952.00  9868.00  7858.00Jul 21 22:51
schestowitzLOLJul 21 22:51
schestowitzAccess to old knowledge whose copyrights have expired?Jul 21 22:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ... just listened to Janis Ian's #free download of "Welcome Home The Nebulas Song) "...martians grokked me from afar..." http://ur1.ca/4r7qiJul 21 22:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] la Quadrature du Net: European Parliament Study Confirms !ACTA Must Be Rejected http://ur1.ca/4qsb0Jul 21 22:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[michaelgeist/@michaelgeist] mgeist: RT @relkatz: My Reply to Access Copyright’s Submission about Transactional Licenses http://t.co/V0jFMBH http://ping.fm/4bDu6Jul 21 22:52
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not-really-humanhiJul 21 22:54
cubezzzso many examples of knowledge _not_ being made available...Jul 21 22:55
cubezzze.g. none of the old loki games are open sourceJul 21 22:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] At the last round of !ACTA begins to falter http://ur1.ca/12zojJul 21 22:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] If you live in Queens, go see "Sita at the Starlite, Thursday July 21st" http://ur1.ca/4qm2tJul 21 23:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Open Metalcast Episode #25 – The Big Four of Creative Commons Metal Music http://ur1.ca/4os4h !CCJul 21 23:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] You may ask yourself: is this really !Canada ? >> "Summer of Yippie!" << great post from my other blogging brother http://ur1.ca/4r7skJul 21 23:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Technollama: "Hacking and #DDoS: lessons from network resilience" ... it's true all the same: "You cannot kill an idea"Jul 21 23:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Why Shih Tzus Aren’t so Yappy: "2.Shih Tzus really are big dogs. The big side of them is just in another dimension. " http://ur1.ca/4r7vxJul 21 23:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @freedomboxfndn Tune in for !Freedombox Progress Report on July 29 5pm CEDT: Using Debian to Create and Preserve Freedom http://is.gd ...Jul 21 23:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Red Hat Enterprise Linux 5.7 Now Available http://lwn.net/Articles/452492/rssJul 21 23:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] TechHerald: Google announces the imminent demise of Google Labs: http://ur1.ca/4r7wu ... the end of the warm & fuzzy google? buzz!Jul 21 23:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @copiesofcopies Please have a subsection on patents titled "Don't Fear the Reaper"Jul 21 23:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] This Blog Is Not For Reading: Google Plus considered harmful http://ur1.ca/4kbp1 buzz!Jul 21 23:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @copiesofcopies Maybe too advanced & nonlegal but address issues of multiple hat-wearing in #FLOSSJul 21 23:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @copiesofcopies I would like to hear about whether lawyers are a good thing or notJul 21 23:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Linux Foundation Releases New White Paper on FOSS Compliance for Suppliers (Linux.com) http://lwn.net/Articles/452496/rssJul 21 23:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Oracle acquires Ksplice http://lwn.net/Articles/452498/rssJul 21 23:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Summer of Yippie "..evening of speeches, rock music, frisbee throwing, & other games such as Find-A-Narc-In-The-Crowd.." http://ur1.ca/4r7skJul 21 23:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] Whoaa! 34% of #iPhone owners are soooo daft, they think their phone is #4G hah! > http://nd.gd/st cc @RamanusAsango @StartupKenya @nj3maJul 21 23:55
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