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| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: of course there are more riots coming. we know this from the way your PM reacted :) | Aug 15 00:22 |
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| schestowitz | hmmm.. | Aug 15 00:27 |
| schestowitz | So maybe it's me who assumed wrongly. How long before next one, d'ya reckon? | Aug 15 00:28 |
| schestowitz | Despite all the new respressive measures | Aug 15 00:28 |
| *abeNd-org has quit (Quit: Leaving.) | Aug 15 00:52 | |
| qu1j0t3 | are you aware of any time in history where repressive measures put a lid on a deepseated social problem? | Aug 15 01:27 |
| qu1j0t3 | look at conditions exactly 100 years ago, for example. | Aug 15 01:28 |
| schestowitz | > Hi & thank you so much for your sincerity! | Aug 15 09:43 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 15 09:43 |
| schestowitz | > Below is a copy of a reply I sent your friend mark webbink. | Aug 15 09:43 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 15 09:43 |
| schestowitz | > Also, i think you asked somewhere if you could blog or tell other friends of yours the things we talked about? Yes, by all means you are welcome to. | Aug 15 09:43 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 15 09:43 |
| schestowitz | > I am hoping to get the android samsung tablet injunction in europe reversed. I obviously have no affiliation with them but it is unfair and therefore bothering me. | Aug 15 09:43 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 15 09:43 |
| schestowitz | > thanks again! | Aug 15 09:43 |
| schestowitz | >> You asked me what I would consider an optimal outcome? | Aug 15 09:45 |
| schestowitz | >> | Aug 15 09:45 |
| schestowitz | >> That is a fair & reasonable question but I find myself | Aug 15 09:45 |
| schestowitz | >> struggling just to picture an answer, | Aug 15 09:45 |
| schestowitz | >> | Aug 15 09:45 |
| schestowitz | >> ...because the system for “rewarding” invention is so | Aug 15 09:45 |
| schestowitz | >> severely defective, and the overall playing field people are | Aug 15 09:45 |
| schestowitz | >> forced to operate on (simply because there is no | Aug 15 09:46 |
| schestowitz | >> alternative) is so heavily booby-trapped by people intent | Aug 15 09:46 |
| schestowitz | >> on gaming the system | Aug 15 09:46 |
| schestowitz | >> ...and there is a seemingly endless supply of liars and | Aug 15 09:46 |
| schestowitz | >> cheats anxious to help them | Aug 15 09:46 |
| schestowitz | >> ...that I have to struggle to tell myself “optimal” | Aug 15 09:46 |
| schestowitz | >> outcomes are even possible. | Aug 15 09:46 |
| schestowitz | >> | Aug 15 09:46 |
| schestowitz | >> So maybe the best I can do is attempt to indicate the | Aug 15 09:46 |
| schestowitz | >> “kinds of things” I would consider “good” rather | Aug 15 09:46 |
| schestowitz | >> than “bad”. | Aug 15 09:46 |
| schestowitz | >> | Aug 15 09:46 |
| schestowitz | >> These are the kinds of things I would consider “good” | Aug 15 09:46 |
| schestowitz | >> outcomes : | Aug 15 09:46 |
| schestowitz | >> | Aug 15 09:46 |
| schestowitz | >> -for the Europeans to nullify Apple’s injunction against | Aug 15 09:46 |
| schestowitz | >> Samsung’s Android Tablet | Aug 15 09:46 |
| schestowitz | >> | Aug 15 09:46 |
| schestowitz | >> -for justice departments in all countries where iPhones | Aug 15 09:46 |
| schestowitz | >> & iPads are sold, to investigate Apple for fraud and | Aug 15 09:46 |
| schestowitz | >> criminal wrongdoing relating to the iPhone and iPad --- in | Aug 15 09:46 |
| schestowitz | >> view of my story | Aug 15 09:46 |
| schestowitz | >> | Aug 15 09:50 |
| schestowitz | >> -to argue for a complete overhaul of patent systems in all | Aug 15 09:50 |
| schestowitz | >> countries where Apple has engaged their legal system over | Aug 15 09:51 |
| schestowitz | >> the iPhone, since their system failed, and with each failure | Aug 15 09:51 |
| schestowitz | >> Steve Jobs becomes emboldened to take his act to the next | Aug 15 09:51 |
| schestowitz | >> level, causing the problem to snowball | Aug 15 09:51 |
| schestowitz | >> | Aug 15 09:51 |
| schestowitz | >> -to show how the patent system harms rather than encourages | Aug 15 09:51 |
| schestowitz | >> invention, and therefore a major overhaul involving some | Aug 15 09:51 |
| schestowitz | >> kind of entirely new approach to dealing with invention is | Aug 15 09:51 |
| schestowitz | >> needed, not just “patent reform” | Aug 15 09:51 |
| schestowitz | >> | Aug 15 09:51 |
| schestowitz | >> -for the open source community to use my patent portfolio | Aug 15 09:51 |
| schestowitz | >> AND the damning story behind what happened, to block the | Aug 15 09:51 |
| schestowitz | >> sale of iPhones & iPads (as Apple did to Samsung in | Aug 15 09:51 |
| schestowitz | >> Europe) unless Apple conforms in various ways to guidelines | Aug 15 09:51 |
| schestowitz | >> specified by an open source committee or government agency | Aug 15 09:51 |
| schestowitz | >> | Aug 15 09:51 |
| schestowitz | >> -for the open source community to use my patent portfolio | Aug 15 09:51 |
| schestowitz | >> AND the damning story behind what happened, to block the | Aug 15 09:51 |
| schestowitz | >> sale of Windows Phone 7 devices unless Microsoft conforms in | Aug 15 09:51 |
| schestowitz | >> various ways to guidelines specified by an open source | Aug 15 09:51 |
| schestowitz | >> committee or government agency | Aug 15 09:51 |
| schestowitz | >> | Aug 15 09:58 |
| schestowitz | >> -for the open source (or Linux) community to use my patent | Aug 15 09:58 |
| schestowitz | >> portfolio AND the damning story behind what happened, to | Aug 15 09:58 |
| schestowitz | >> strike back at Microsoft and Oracle in the event of patent | Aug 15 09:58 |
| schestowitz | >> litigation aimed at the open source or Linux community | Aug 15 09:58 |
| schestowitz | >> | Aug 15 09:58 |
| schestowitz | >> -to ban Apple’s iOS and Windows Phone 7, and require that | Aug 15 09:58 |
| schestowitz | >> hardware running them substitute an open source alternative | Aug 15 09:58 |
| schestowitz | >> instead | Aug 15 09:58 |
| schestowitz | >> | Aug 15 09:58 |
| schestowitz | >> -to sue Apple and Microsoft for willful infringement of my | Aug 15 09:58 |
| schestowitz | >> patents, and use the damages collected to fund open source | Aug 15 09:58 |
| schestowitz | >> and Linux development and proliferation | Aug 15 09:58 |
| schestowitz | >> | Aug 15 09:58 |
| schestowitz | >> -to sue Apple and Microsoft for willful infringement of my | Aug 15 09:58 |
| schestowitz | >> patents, and use the damages collected to maintain a | Aug 15 09:58 |
| schestowitz | >> non-profit agency whose job is to sincerely protect and | Aug 15 09:58 |
| schestowitz | >> encourage invention | Aug 15 09:58 |
| schestowitz | >> | Aug 15 10:02 |
| schestowitz | >> -for the open source (or Linux) community to use my patent | Aug 15 10:02 |
| schestowitz | >> portfolio AND the damning story behind what happened, to | Aug 15 10:02 |
| schestowitz | >> strike back at Microsoft and Oracle in the event of patent | Aug 15 10:02 |
| schestowitz | >> litigation aimed at the open source or Linux community | Aug 15 10:02 |
| schestowitz | >> | Aug 15 10:02 |
| schestowitz | >> -to ban Apple’s iOS and Windows Phone 7, and require that | Aug 15 10:02 |
| schestowitz | >> hardware running them substitute an open source alternative | Aug 15 10:02 |
| schestowitz | >> instead | Aug 15 10:02 |
| schestowitz | >> | Aug 15 10:02 |
| schestowitz | >> -to sue Apple and Microsoft for willful infringement of my | Aug 15 10:02 |
| schestowitz | >> patents, and use the damages collected to fund open source | Aug 15 10:02 |
| schestowitz | >> and Linux development and proliferation | Aug 15 10:02 |
| schestowitz | >> | Aug 15 10:02 |
| schestowitz | >> -to sue Apple and Microsoft for willful infringement of my | Aug 15 10:02 |
| schestowitz | >> patents, and use the damages collected to maintain a | Aug 15 10:02 |
| schestowitz | >> non-profit agency whose job is to sincerely protect and | Aug 15 10:02 |
| schestowitz | >> encourage invention | Aug 15 10:02 |
| schestowitz | >> You asked me what I would consider an optimal outcome? | Aug 15 10:02 |
| schestowitz | >> | Aug 15 10:02 |
| schestowitz | >> That is a fair & reasonable question but I find myself | Aug 15 10:02 |
| schestowitz | >> struggling just to picture an answer, | Aug 15 10:02 |
| schestowitz | >> | Aug 15 10:02 |
| schestowitz | >> ...because the system for “rewarding” invention is so | Aug 15 10:02 |
| schestowitz | >> severely defective, and the overall playing field people are | Aug 15 10:02 |
| schestowitz | >> forced to operate on (simply because there is no | Aug 15 10:02 |
| schestowitz | >> alternative) is so heavily booby-trapped by people intent | Aug 15 10:03 |
| schestowitz | >> on gaming the system | Aug 15 10:03 |
| schestowitz | >> ...and there is a seemingly endless supply of liars and | Aug 15 10:03 |
| schestowitz | >> cheats anxious to help them | Aug 15 10:03 |
| schestowitz | >> ...that I have to struggle to tell myself “optimal” | Aug 15 10:03 |
| schestowitz | >> outcomes are even possible. | Aug 15 10:03 |
| schestowitz | >> | Aug 15 10:03 |
| schestowitz | >> So maybe the best I can do is attempt to indicate the | Aug 15 10:03 |
| schestowitz | >> “kinds of things” I would consider “good” rather | Aug 15 10:03 |
| schestowitz | >> than “bad”. | Aug 15 10:03 |
| schestowitz | >> | Aug 15 10:03 |
| schestowitz | >> These are the kinds of things I would consider “good” | Aug 15 10:03 |
| schestowitz | >> outcomes : | Aug 15 10:03 |
| schestowitz | >> | Aug 15 10:03 |
| schestowitz | >> -for the Europeans to nullify Apple’s injunction against | Aug 15 10:03 |
| schestowitz | >> Samsung’s Android Tablet | Aug 15 10:03 |
| schestowitz | >> | Aug 15 10:03 |
| schestowitz | >> -for justice departments in all countries where iPhones | Aug 15 10:03 |
| schestowitz | >> & iPads are sold, to investigate Apple for fraud and | Aug 15 10:03 |
| schestowitz | >> criminal wrongdoing relating to the iPhone and iPad --- in | Aug 15 10:03 |
| schestowitz | >> view of my story | Aug 15 10:03 |
| schestowitz | >> | Aug 15 10:03 |
| schestowitz | >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~> :--( <~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | Aug 15 10:03 |
| schestowitz | >> | Aug 15 10:03 |
| schestowitz | >> A failed patent system incubates criminality on a scale far | Aug 15 10:03 |
| schestowitz | >> more egregious than the mere theft of inventions. It is | Aug 15 10:03 |
| schestowitz | >> the launching point of SEC fraud, collusion, conspiracy to | Aug 15 10:03 |
| schestowitz | >> manipulate market share and company share value. It | Aug 15 10:03 |
| schestowitz | >> destroys other companies that are not aware of what is | Aug 15 10:03 |
| schestowitz | >> secretly happening, and therefore have no defense. | Aug 15 10:03 |
| schestowitz | >> | Aug 15 10:03 |
| schestowitz | >> And it harms a chain reaction of innocent and honest people | Aug 15 10:03 |
| schestowitz | >> who have no personal involvement with the patent process, | Aug 15 10:03 |
| schestowitz | >> and whose only sin is believing they live in a society that | Aug 15 10:03 |
| schestowitz | >> stands up to wrong-doing. | Aug 15 10:03 |
| schestowitz | >> | Aug 15 10:03 |
| schestowitz | >> | Aug 15 10:03 |
| schestowitz | >> You should know that all my patents belong to my mother --- | Aug 15 10:03 |
| schestowitz | >> NOT to me. | Aug 15 10:03 |
| schestowitz | >> Not(!) because she wanted it that way, but because I always | Aug 15 10:03 |
| schestowitz | >> wanted them to be hers, not mine. I didn’t take out | Aug 15 10:04 |
| schestowitz | >> patents to go trolling. I did so, so I could start a | Aug 15 10:04 |
| schestowitz | >> company and have all the fundamentals in place. | Aug 15 10:04 |
| schestowitz | >> | Aug 15 10:04 |
| schestowitz | >> My mother is a medical school professor who spent her whole | Aug 15 10:04 |
| schestowitz | >> life practicing altruistic medicine. She took care of | Aug 15 10:04 |
| schestowitz | >> patients who deserved first rate care, simply because ALL | Aug 15 10:04 |
| schestowitz | >> humans deserve that, even when they can’t afford much in | Aug 15 10:04 |
| schestowitz | >> life. So all I ever wanted all these years was for the | Aug 15 10:04 |
| schestowitz | >> things I created to “reward” my mom, in ways she was | Aug 15 10:04 |
| schestowitz | >> never willing to reward herself, through the practice of | Aug 15 10:04 |
| schestowitz | >> medicine. | Aug 15 10:04 |
| schestowitz | >> So when Bill Gates, richest man in the world, conspired to | Aug 15 10:08 |
| schestowitz | >> rob me, bribing my lawyers to help him --- while advertising | Aug 15 10:08 |
| schestowitz | >> to the world his “humanitarianism” and “saintly” | Aug 15 10:08 |
| schestowitz | >> (as Leslie Stahl of CBS News called him to Paul Allen) | Aug 15 10:08 |
| schestowitz | >> desire to eliminate disease in Africa --- he actually | Aug 15 10:08 |
| schestowitz | >> robbed by mom, who God knows is the one who actually did | Aug 15 10:08 |
| schestowitz | >> spend a lifetime tending to the sick, and quietly. | Aug 15 10:08 |
| schestowitz | >> | Aug 15 10:08 |
| schestowitz | >> And when Steve Jobs’ life was saved by surgeons who had | Aug 15 10:08 |
| schestowitz | >> enough belief in the Hippocratic oath to not pass judgment | Aug 15 10:08 |
| schestowitz | >> on whether he deserved it, Jobs had an opportunity to have | Aug 15 10:08 |
| schestowitz | >> an epiphany, like people are supposed to at death’s | Aug 15 10:08 |
| schestowitz | >> doorstep. But instead, during that very same time period, | Aug 15 10:08 |
| schestowitz | >> he exercised his free will to plagiarize my work. And I | Aug 15 10:08 |
| schestowitz | >> could forgive him if it was just me. But he ultimately | Aug 15 10:09 |
| schestowitz | >> robbed my mom, who stands as a professional peer alongside | Aug 15 10:09 |
| schestowitz | >> the doctors who saved him. | Aug 15 10:09 |
| schestowitz | >> | Aug 15 10:09 |
| schestowitz | >> So there is a “bigger picture” from my perspective. | Aug 15 10:09 |
| schestowitz | >> And any “optimal outcome” from my standpoint has to | Aug 15 10:09 |
| schestowitz | >> factor in how things can be fixed so this doesn’t happen | Aug 15 10:09 |
| schestowitz | >> any more. | Aug 15 10:09 |
| schestowitz | There's more on that coming | Aug 15 10:09 |
| schestowitz | Just gathering the raw evidence | Aug 15 10:09 |
| schestowitz | As he permits me to share it with fellow techrighters | Aug 15 10:09 |
| schestowitz | If you have any comment on it to embed in a post | Aug 15 10:09 |
| schestowitz | Amazing story | Aug 15 10:09 |
| schestowitz | Jobs and Gates working to defraud people who actually invest stuff | Aug 15 10:09 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/qu1j0t3/status/102976667609333761 | Aug 15 10:14 |
| TechrightsSocial | @qu1j0t3: .@schestowitz In un-bylined piece, Bill Gates' pet newspaper, WaPo, sets out to undermine idea of weapons spending cuts http://t.co/TI03Qzx | Aug 15 10:14 |
| TechrightsSocial | -> Title: For members of deficit-cutting supercommittee, ‘doomsday’ defense cuts hit close to home - The Washington Post .::. Size~: 88.51 KB | Aug 15 10:14 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/manufjobs/status/102824687691776000 | Aug 15 10:14 |
| TechrightsSocial | @manufjobs: @schestowitz Econ forces bring jobs back to #USA, due rising costs China, costs going down US. Pls see attached post. http://ow.ly/62RtA | Aug 15 10:14 |
| TechrightsSocial | -> Title: Ed Says: Only one way to solve our job and debt problem: Why is U.S. dollar losing value? .::. Size~: 54.78 KB | Aug 15 10:14 |
| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: WashPo is no longer so much Gates' baby | Aug 15 10:14 |
| schestowitz | !google melinda gates to leave washington post techrights | Aug 15 10:14 |
| TechrightsSocial | [1] - Education Scandal Leaves Melinda Gates Out of the Washington Post ... | http://techrights.org/2011/01/07/washington-post-without-gates/ | Aug 15 10:14 |
| TechrightsSocial | [2] - ES: Escándalo en Educación – Melinda Gates fuera del Washington ... | http://techrights.org/2011/01/09/educacion-melinda-gates/ | Aug 15 10:14 |
| TechrightsSocial | [3] - Bill Gates Forms Government Connections to Avoid ... - Techrights | http://techrights.org/2011/01/04/gates-building-government-connections/ | Aug 15 10:14 |
| TechrightsSocial | [4] - Bill Gates Uses Influence Over Washington Post, GOOD ... - Techrights | http://techrights.org/2011/08/13/pr-blitz-using-polio/ | Aug 15 10:14 |
| schestowitz | http://blog.mypapit.net/2011/08/vintage-ad-steve-ballmer-on-windows-1-0-operating-system.html | Aug 15 10:16 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: Vintage Ad: Steve Ballmer on Windows 1.0 operating system : mypapit gnu/linux blog .::. Size~: 22.49 KB | Aug 15 10:16 |
| *oiaohm (~oiaohm@unaffiliated/oiaohm) has joined #boycottnovell-social | Aug 15 12:05 | |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/80871586 | Aug 15 12:13 |
| TechrightsSocial | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Monday, 15-Aug-11 09:21:36 UTC - Identi.ca: Installed !Debian on the server yesterday. It's very good. The part where they omitted firmware for my Ethernet was unpleasant. | Aug 15 12:13 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: it's good | Aug 15 12:13 |
| oiaohm | done the lack of Ethernet firmware before. schestowitz | Aug 15 12:14 |
| oiaohm | Worse is one laptop I have I need a different firmware due to it being screwy | Aug 15 12:14 |
| oiaohm | Yes I have debian on a laptop. schestowitz | Aug 15 12:15 |
| schestowitz | I installed it from SD card | Aug 15 12:15 |
| schestowitz | mounted into a USB converter | Aug 15 12:15 |
| oiaohm | Yep don't try that with windows. | Aug 15 12:17 |
| oiaohm | Current fun project is making a few bolt chess sets up. | Aug 15 12:18 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: I don't see that Melinda leaving the board really changes things. it's optics. also, wasn't bill himself intimate there? | Aug 15 14:40 |
| schestowitz | he still is | Aug 15 14:48 |
| qu1j0t3 | right, that's what i was getting at | Aug 15 14:53 |
| schestowitz | Bill has the Washingom Post | Aug 15 15:04 |
| schestowitz | Bill has the Washingom post too | Aug 15 15:04 |
| schestowitz | Bill has the Washingom state | Aug 15 15:04 |
| schestowitz | Home of the Billdom | Aug 15 15:04 |
| schestowitz | Where papers have to bow down for their 'hero' | Aug 15 15:05 |
| qu1j0t3 | right | Aug 15 15:06 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/80876587 | Aug 15 15:06 |
| TechrightsSocial | @agentsmith's status on Monday, 15-Aug-11 11:53:42 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz I know, it's the DE I use(after KDE 3, E-17 is my DE of choice nowadays) | Aug 15 15:06 |
| schestowitz | with a typo in Enlightenment | Aug 15 15:06 |
| schestowitz | "New video: E17 #Enlightment Rocks http://ur1.ca/4x378 (works as HTML5/WebM too)" | Aug 15 15:06 |
| TechrightsSocial | Error processing the URL | Aug 15 15:08 |
| *oiaohm has quit (Quit: by all) | Aug 15 16:00 | |
| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: in the US, there is a mass of people against the war | Aug 15 17:15 |
| schestowitz | They say it drives them into bankruptcy | Aug 15 17:15 |
| schestowitz | But I wonder, can the US keep the oil traded in USD without all this occupation that makes the US seem like poppa nation? | Aug 15 17:15 |
| schestowitz | And if liberals want to end US occupations, they might end up jeopardising US liberty too | Aug 15 17:16 |
| schestowitz | If, for example, American workers become enslaved due to financial bankruptcy | Aug 15 17:16 |
| schestowitz | So I guess it boils down to one's selfishness and sense of entitlement | Aug 15 17:16 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: the Establishment has no interest in ending war/weapons industry. | Aug 15 17:20 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: so this may be a future avenue of direct conflict | Aug 15 17:20 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: it will take some time though before the movement has a pacifism motive rather than a financial motive | Aug 15 17:21 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: may never happen in our lifetimes in the US ... exceptionalism etc | Aug 15 17:22 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/103104397248167936 | Aug 15 17:53 |
| TechrightsSocial | @wikileaks: This is cute. Thanks to all our followers #PresidentAssange http://t.co/wWuYenG | Aug 15 17:53 |
| TechrightsSocial | -> Title: Twitter / Search .::. Size~: 20.9 KB | Aug 15 17:53 |
| *ender2070 (~brandon@d72-38-2-153.commercial1.cgocable.net) has joined #boycottnovell-social | Aug 15 18:04 | |
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| schestowitz | The installation of cyrus has gone on more smoothly on Debian, but there is still this problem with flex-related packages that I've spend two hours trying to get around every once in a while when things get quiet (last night got very busy and today too there are some VOIP occasional glitches). | Aug 15 19:02 |
| schestowitz | After several attempts to install and even reiinstall flex it occurred to me that something was seriously wrong and I decided to run make clean, which finally led me to the same problems. | Aug 15 19:13 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/80898252 | Aug 15 21:28 |
| TechrightsSocial | @Christian Einfeldt (einfeldt)'s status on Monday, 15-Aug-11 20:04:21 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz We at @partimus have started selling Ubuntu earrings to raise funds. What wd u think of blogging about our efforts? | Aug 15 21:28 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/80898304 | Aug 15 21:28 |
| TechrightsSocial | @Christian Einfeldt (einfeldt)'s status on Monday, 15-Aug-11 20:05:45 UTC - Identi.ca: @Schestowitz Here r our earrings in silver http://t.co/VY2lRgC & gold http://t.co/61rCqJZ Thx either way! | Aug 15 21:28 |
| TechrightsSocial | -> Title: Partimus Blog › Fundraiser: Ubuntu Earrings from Boutique Academia – Now in Silver! .::. Size~: 14.67 KB | Aug 15 21:28 |
| TechrightsSocial | -> Title: Partimus Blog › Fundraiser: Ubuntu Earrings from Boutique Academia .::. Size~: 14.75 KB | Aug 15 21:28 |
| schestowitz | hm.. promoting ubuntu in my blog? | Aug 15 21:29 |
| qu1j0t3 | wtf | Aug 15 21:37 |
| schestowitz | it's a friend who sells those | Aug 15 21:41 |
| schestowitz | but why would I promote earrings | Aug 15 21:41 |
| schestowitz | ? | Aug 15 21:41 |
| qu1j0t3 | they don't make it clear what the funding is for | Aug 15 21:44 |
| qu1j0t3 | i;d stay out of it | Aug 15 21:44 |
| qu1j0t3 | i never allowed individual 3rd parties to advertise on my site | Aug 15 21:44 |
| qu1j0t3 | despite large traffic | Aug 15 21:44 |
| qu1j0t3 | http://idle.slashdot.org/story/11/08/15/1523245/Essex-Police-Arrest-Man-Over-Blackberry-Water-Fight-Plan?utm_source=rss1.0&utm_medium=feed | Aug 15 21:46 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: Essex Police Arrest Man Over Blackberry Water Fight Plan - Slashdot .::. Size~: 62.42 KB | Aug 15 21:46 |
| schestowitz | a good thing they stopped this crook ahead of time | Aug 15 21:49 |
| schestowitz | !google clegg arson | Aug 15 21:49 |
| TechrightsSocial | [1] - Nick Clegg gets asked about his arson conviction. 11/08/2011 - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3D7ueBCWaWNcY | Aug 15 21:49 |
| TechrightsSocial | [2] - NICK CLEGG IS CONVICTED ARSONIST | Ian Bone | http://ianbone.wordpress.com/2011/08/12/nick-clegg-is-convicted-arsonist/ | Aug 15 21:49 |
| TechrightsSocial | [3] - 'I'd drunk too much. I was irresponsible. Criminal': Nick Clegg on ... | http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/moslive/article-1193693/Id-drunk-I-irresponsible-Criminal-Nick-Clegg-regrets.html | Aug 15 21:49 |
| TechrightsSocial | [4] - Nick Clegg convicted of Arson aged 16! - Punters Lounge - The ... | http://forum.punterslounge.com/f25/nick-clegg-convicted-arson-aged-16-a-120100/ | Aug 15 21:49 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: so, it's acceptable to light fires if you've "had too much to drink," but not if you're a victim of systemic poverty, brutality, and deprivation | Aug 15 22:02 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: class war alive and well | Aug 15 22:02 |
| schestowitz | you missed an important point | Aug 15 22:07 |
| schestowitz | he was 16 | Aug 15 22:07 |
| schestowitz | drunk | Aug 15 22:07 |
| schestowitz | in Germany | Aug 15 22:07 |
| schestowitz | So by using this defence he only makes things worse | Aug 15 22:07 |
| schestowitz | It's like when someone who speeds on the highway gets caught and then tells the police he was rushing cause of the body in the trunk/boot | Aug 15 22:08 |
| schestowitz | [22:02] <qu1j0t3> schestowitz: class war alive and well | Aug 15 22:08 |
| schestowitz | maybe it's OK cause CLegg had fine Chardonnay | Aug 15 22:08 |
| schestowitz | Whereas those "chavs" may have smoked pot | Aug 15 22:08 |
| schestowitz | Which is not a rich person's recreational drug | Aug 15 22:09 |
| schestowitz | Chardonnay makes you a naughty little boy | Aug 15 22:09 |
| schestowitz | Cider makes you a vicious criminal | Aug 15 22:09 |
| schestowitz | Nude beach makes you find your roots | Aug 15 22:09 |
| schestowitz | Porn/rotica makes you disgusting | Aug 15 22:10 |
| schestowitz | The rich people's stuff always gets the positive connotations | Aug 15 22:10 |
| qu1j0t3 | yes, just as it's not theft if a banker does it | Aug 15 22:22 |
| qu1j0t3 | it's just being a valuable City man | Aug 15 22:22 |
| qu1j0t3 | a pillar of society | Aug 15 22:22 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: did you see "Sexy Beast"? | Aug 15 22:23 |
| schestowitz | No | Aug 15 22:24 |
| schestowitz | !google "Sexy Beast" | Aug 15 22:24 |
| TechrightsSocial | [1] - IMDb - Sexy Beast (2000) | http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0203119/ | Aug 15 22:24 |
| TechrightsSocial | [2] - Sexy Beast - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexy_Beast | Aug 15 22:24 |
| TechrightsSocial | [3] - Sexy Beast - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DeSVRGdHFxYc | Aug 15 22:24 |
| TechrightsSocial | [4] - Sexy Beast - Rotten Tomatoes | http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/sexy_beast/ | Aug 15 22:24 |
| schestowitz | original film poster if funny | Aug 15 22:24 |
| schestowitz | "The film earned Kingsley an Oscar nomination for Best Supporting Actor.[2] In 2004 the magazine Total Film named Sexy Beast the 15th greatest British film of all time" | Aug 15 22:25 |
| schestowitz | TBH I no longerb watch many films | Aug 15 22:25 |
| schestowitz | Thy can rot my brain in a away... used to watch one almost every day | Aug 15 22:25 |
| schestowitz | That was more than 10 years ago. Films after 2000 I don't know so well... films are too long, like reading a huge article/paper versus blog post (clip) | Aug 15 22:26 |
| qu1j0t3 | i watch very few myself | Aug 15 22:29 |
| schestowitz | i saw part of Avatar recently | Aug 15 22:30 |
| schestowitz | typical US production | Aug 15 22:30 |
| qu1j0t3 | i have avoided it. | Aug 15 22:35 |
| qu1j0t3 | movies with guns are, on the whole, worthless. | Aug 15 22:35 |
| qu1j0t3 | so is a life with guns. | Aug 15 22:35 |
| schestowitz | that's the essence of lies | Aug 15 22:36 |
| schestowitz | *life | Aug 15 22:36 |
| schestowitz | Guns, sex, money | Aug 15 22:36 |
| qu1j0t3 | huh? | Aug 15 22:58 |
| qu1j0t3 | you mean, Hollywood's version of it | Aug 15 22:58 |
| schestowitz | yeah | Aug 15 23:01 |
| schestowitz | I thought it was obvious | Aug 15 23:01 |
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| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: :) | Aug 15 23:30 |
| schestowitz | There is some serious trolling today ij the #techrights channel | Aug 15 23:31 |
| schestowitz | Thankfully for you, there's no need to bother with it | Aug 15 23:32 |
| schestowitz | I think thids channel now has better s/n ratio than #techrights | Aug 15 23:32 |
| schestowitz | Cause unlike the other one, anti-Linux propagandists don't come here | Aug 15 23:32 |
| schestowitz | Anyway, havign managed not to dave in for the trolls I actually got some work done | Aug 15 23:32 |
| qu1j0t3 | :) | Aug 15 23:33 |
| qu1j0t3 | right, i would get distracted | Aug 15 23:33 |
| schestowitz | Didn't manage to compile cyrus on Debian but did manage to make the code work with better generality: | Aug 15 23:33 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 15 23:33 |
| schestowitz | As agreed in this morning's one-hour conversation, I have modified the code such that it should enable any person to run the program from my own home directory (no need to pass any of the files around), even without being the owner of the user account. All that should be needed is a small change which percolates down to all the code. Without losing elegance, the change is already applied, so the program as it stands at the | Aug 15 23:33 |
| schestowitz | moment ought to work. I cannot test this as I have no account other than mine. | Aug 15 23:33 |
| schestowitz | schestow@server:/home/schestow~$ ./mb | Aug 15 23:33 |
| schestowitz | I removed (commented out) the HOME= directive as we found that it generally confused X and led it into the wrong ~/.Xauthority , yielding authentication errors. The advantage of this approach might be that instructions can be provided for any user with an account on the server to reproduce the results for oneself using the GUI I created. Given the circumstance of work from afar, this is a handy utility provided it's easy | Aug 15 23:33 |
| schestowitz | enough to follow (running the shell script above ought to invoke the GUI, regardless of who executes it). | Aug 15 23:33 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 15 23:33 |
| schestowitz | Now on to documentation | Aug 15 23:33 |
| schestowitz | BTW | Aug 15 23:33 |
| schestowitz | If you even need a job in the UK, maybe I can help | Aug 15 23:33 |
| schestowitz | Just in case | Aug 15 23:33 |
| schestowitz | I realise you have a place you're happy with now | Aug 15 23:34 |
| schestowitz | and the wife too | Aug 15 23:34 |
| schestowitz | For me, all the work I do is from home | Aug 15 23:34 |
| schestowitz | With good gear | Aug 15 23:34 |
| schestowitz | Meaning I don't have to shave and travel as much, which is what I wanted | Aug 15 23:34 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: that's a kind offer. if circumstances were slightly different I'd probably take you up. as a matter of fact we heard just today that she can register for a degree course starting this year at a local university. there was some uncertainty before, even though she was accepted based on portfolio. now she can go ahead. | Aug 15 23:36 |
| qu1j0t3 | so that commits us to the city for a few years. | Aug 15 23:36 |
| qu1j0t3 | and full time work (X-|) | Aug 15 23:36 |
| qu1j0t3 | yeah working from home suited me okay except the project was insane; I had to quit, it was making me depressed. | Aug 15 23:37 |
| qu1j0t3 | good money too. my friend who stayed is earning $200K, I'd have been offered nearly as much to stay. | Aug 15 23:38 |
| qu1j0t3 | gives you an idea of how crazy it was. | Aug 15 23:38 |
| qu1j0t3 | I *was* offered, actually. but the point was sanity, not money :) | Aug 15 23:38 |
| schestowitz | depends on one's circumstances | Aug 15 23:39 |
| schestowitz | and time | Aug 15 23:39 |
| schestowitz | Sometimes people get a rush of demand | Aug 15 23:39 |
| schestowitz | Or get employed by thieving bankers | Aug 15 23:39 |
| schestowitz | Those are the people whom people like to quote as well-paid developers | Aug 15 23:39 |
| schestowitz | In the UK, starting salary for programmers is around GBP26k if yo're good | Aug 15 23:39 |
| schestowitz | And those too are hard to be accepted for | Aug 15 23:40 |
| schestowitz | And after taxation it's net of about 18k I think | Aug 15 23:40 |
| schestowitz | Or less than $30k | Aug 15 23:40 |
| schestowitz | USD | Aug 15 23:40 |
| schestowitz | So I had to move to another area in 2003 | Aug 15 23:40 |
| schestowitz | I started doing a Ph.D. | Aug 15 23:40 |
| schestowitz | Which, in retrospect, was quite wise as straight programming is a sucky \field in the UK now, unless one has speciality | Aug 15 23:41 |
| schestowitz | !google uk 70 programming jobs | Aug 15 23:41 |
| TechrightsSocial | [1] - Datascope Recruitment Ltd - www.datascope.co.uk | http://www.datascope.co.uk/ | Aug 15 23:41 |
| TechrightsSocial | [2] - C++ Software Developer (Object Oriented Programming - njobs jobs | http://www.njobs.co.uk/partner-24-job-offer-c-software-developer-(object-dde03cf52b0bb00dbbf2f12c5026315e.html | Aug 15 23:41 |
| TechrightsSocial | [3] - Programming jobs and Programming vacancies at CWJobs.co.uk | http://www.cwjobs.co.uk/JobSeeking/Programming.html | Aug 15 23:41 |
| TechrightsSocial | [4] - Jobs in Uttaranchal,Retirement Jobs Uttaranchal,Career Job ... | http://www.placementindia.com/job_openings/uttaranchal/ | Aug 15 23:41 |
| schestowitz | let me try again | Aug 15 23:41 |
| schestowitz | !google one in 70 software developers jobs | Aug 15 23:42 |
| TechrightsSocial | [1] - Application Software Developer Jobs on CareerBuilder.com | http://www.careerbuilder.com/jobs/keyword/application%2Bsoftware%2Bdeveloper | Aug 15 23:42 |
| TechrightsSocial | [2] - Walmart Jobs - Software Developer Jobs | http://www.softwaredeveloperjob.com/a/jobs/find-jobs/q-Walmart | Aug 15 23:42 |
| TechrightsSocial | [3] - Software Developer Jobs in Southampton | Jobsite, UK | http://www.jobsite.co.uk/jobs/it/softwaredeveloper/southampton | Aug 15 23:42 |
| TechrightsSocial | [4] - Global Trends « Quips On Software Development | http://davidlongstreet.wordpress.com/category/software-development/global-trends/ | Aug 15 23:42 |
| schestowitz | Nah.. it's SEOd to death | Aug 15 23:42 |
| schestowitz | I can't get to the news articles | Aug 15 23:42 |
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