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SnitWait - you only found an image to show it could be done?  You did not use it yourself?  [Just kidding - and channelling Roy]Aug 09 00:00
Tom_Boh crap, my firefox is running as root herreAug 09 00:03
Tom_BroflAug 09 00:03
ender_33close itAug 09 00:03
ender_33use that url from any browserAug 09 00:04
Tom_Bif only hadron could read this :-DAug 09 00:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I have 2 freezers it is not a case of preserving the bread it would be better if the bread was fresher to start with.Aug 09 00:04
ender_33http://youtu.be/4FtEEB7JTko <-- Roy @ 40 secondsAug 09 00:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: ‪Grandmas boy "I hate your face"‬‏       - YouTube .::. Size~: 92.3 KBAug 09 00:04
Tom_Bmhh, so you recommend running the service itself?Aug 09 00:05
Tom_Bas root i meanAug 09 00:05
ender_33Tom_B nah it just launches firefox for the hell of itAug 09 00:05
ender_33just close it and re run it normallyAug 09 00:05
Tom_Byeah, i knowAug 09 00:05
Tom_Bbut the service itself i meanAug 09 00:05
ender_33oh yeah thats what I'm doingAug 09 00:06
ender_33no reason not toAug 09 00:06
Tom_B,Aug 09 00:06
Tom_BmhhAug 09 00:06
Tom_Bperhaps Aug 09 00:06
Tom_Boh crapAug 09 00:06
Tom_Bdamn <enter> keyAug 09 00:06
Tom_Bokay, perhaps build myself an init script thenAug 09 00:07
Tom_Bnope, the package didn't install oneAug 09 00:07
Tom_Bbut ho there, there's an 'initscript' use flag for itAug 09 00:08
Tom_Bokay, let's rebuild thenAug 09 00:08
Tom_B:-pAug 09 00:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Hmm....Family Guy or South Park?Aug 09 00:09
Tom_Bokay, so now I have an initscript :-)Aug 09 00:09
Tom_BwhiiiAug 09 00:10
ender_33WiiAug 09 00:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Listening to the new Morbid Angel while working. Onto the first track after the intro. Not a good start. This isn't experimental, it's bad.Aug 09 00:11
Tom_Bokay, localhost:4444 for i2p proxy thenAug 09 00:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] View of London riots from Egypt http://t.co/J7OLnvkAug 09 00:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Cartman a strong argument for abortion.Aug 09 00:14
Tom_Bmeh, that's not really workingAug 09 00:15
Tom_Bor actually really not workingAug 09 00:15
Tom_B:-pAug 09 00:15
SnitRoy posts these logs - so Hadron can read it if he wants.Aug 09 00:15
ender_33you need to run it a whileAug 09 00:15
Tom_Bmhh, the webinterface says that the HTTP proxy on port 4444 is started...Aug 09 00:16
Tom_Bah, okAug 09 00:16
Tom_Bso i'll wait 30 minutes or so?Aug 09 00:16
Tom_Bprolly first looking for peers and allAug 09 00:16
ender_33depends on your connectionAug 09 00:16
ender_33its finding peers yesAug 09 00:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] My thoughts and wishes go out to my English brothers and sisters in London and Birmingham. I can't believe the news.Aug 09 00:17
Tom_Bhey, it's working nowAug 09 00:18
Tom_Ba tad slow, but it worksAug 09 00:18
Tom_Bgreat stuffAug 09 00:18
Tom_B:-)Aug 09 00:18
Tom_Bthanks for mentioning this, ender_33Aug 09 00:19
Tom_Bvery nice too that it's in the gentoo repos :-)Aug 09 00:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Bank of America trading closes -20.32%Aug 09 00:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] I'm sorry for your loss, @osamakAug 09 00:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Apparently in the past people had sex.Aug 09 00:26
Tom_B(i now miss the machines)Aug 09 00:28
Tom_B:-pAug 09 00:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[freemjd/@freemjd] "Blackberry said it would do what it could to help authorities" The !FreedomBox ad campaign is writing itself. http://ur1.ca/4vh8hAug 09 00:32
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SnitJust occurred to me, TomB - you respond to me here but not in COLA.  Kinda supports the idea that you are not responding to me in COLA to please others.Aug 09 00:37
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SnitAny thoughts on that?  Again - respond or not as you like.  Just seems quite telling.Aug 09 00:38
SnitBRBAug 09 00:38
schestowitz[00:04] <ender_33> http://youtu.be/4FtEEB7JTko <-- Roy @ 40 secondsAug 09 00:42
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schestowitzhuh?Aug 09 00:42
ender_33That's you using your invisibility cloak to hide earlierAug 09 00:43
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schestowitz invisibility cloak  don't exist.Aug 09 00:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] @jezra by file, I mean a shitty pdf. I dislike pdfs very much.Aug 09 00:51
schestowitzI was prioritisingAug 09 00:51
SnitYou do have a strong tendency to just avoid topics you do not like... or questions you have no answer for.Aug 09 00:52
schestowitzNo, you wasted time by misquoting and misreprsenting RMSAug 09 00:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Clockwork Orange amongst the violence there is a lot of humour.Aug 09 00:54
schestowitzAnd then asked *me* to defend a distortion of his viewsAug 09 00:54
schestowitzWhich was dishonest of youAug 09 00:54
schestowitzAnd now I'm back to researchingAug 09 00:54
SnitYour comments about my knowing KDE only from screenshots and videos, your incorrect guesses about PCLOS, your silly defense of rms... on and onAug 09 00:54
schestowitzCause this is a waste of timeAug 09 00:54
SnitThese things you just avoidAug 09 00:54
SnitI quote him - there is no distortionAug 09 00:55
SnitAnyway, need to run for a bit again.Aug 09 00:55
ender_33misquoting rms now?Aug 09 00:55
ender_33first it was out of context, now its straight out liesAug 09 00:56
Tom_BsoAug 09 00:57
ender_33thats what roy is saying about direct quests from stallman.orgAug 09 00:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Bank of America now falls -22.45% (2.15 afer close) http://t.co/7junrwiAug 09 00:57
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ender_33quotesAug 09 00:57
ender_33LOL im playing wow right nowAug 09 00:57
Tom_BroflAug 09 00:58
Tom_Boh, a question to meAug 09 00:58
Tom_Bfrom my good friend snit!Aug 09 00:58
Tom_BheheAug 09 00:59
Tom_Bmhhh, it's more like an insinuation disguised as a question actually :-pAug 09 00:59
Tom_Bnot feeling like going this way on yet another mediumAug 09 01:00
Tom_Bso to answer the question anyway: another mediumAug 09 01:01
Tom_Band to address the insinuation: i have not desire to 'please others'Aug 09 01:02
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Tom_Bi was and still am pretty pissed at you for your bull in the RMS thread, and that's all i want to say about it in hereAug 09 01:03
Tom_BnahAug 09 01:03
ender_33what bull?Aug 09 01:03
ender_33we're not from cola most of usAug 09 01:03
Tom_BehAug 09 01:03
Tom_BokayAug 09 01:03
Tom_Bkeep it that way ;-)Aug 09 01:03
SnitI would love for you to quote what I said that was so offensive.  Aug 09 01:03
Tom_Bbut i'm not going to drag the shit from there in here :-pAug 09 01:04
SnitYou claimed I accused you pedophilia, I believe (I could be wrong).Aug 09 01:04
SnitFair enough - would just love to see you try to support your accusations *somewhere*.Aug 09 01:04
SnitAnd it is interesting you note your behavior toward me is based on where you are, not the topic.Aug 09 01:05
SnitBut enough... letting it dropAug 09 01:05
SnitAnd having to runAug 09 01:05
SnitGood to see you hereAug 09 01:05
Tom_B'kayAug 09 01:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] So, the Morbid Angel record summary: pretty uninspired. Few decent tracks and a lot of weird filler content. Disappointed.Aug 09 01:07
ender_33Nah rms is the one having nasal sex with dead plantsAug 09 01:09
ender_33I thought him eating stuff off his foot was badAug 09 01:10
SnitEating from his foot is gross - but not offensive.Aug 09 01:11
SnitHis comments about sex are gross, offensive and he should be investigated for any relations he has had with children and/or for if he has child porn.Aug 09 01:11
ender_33the emacs virgins thing is nothing compared to thisAug 09 01:13
Snitemacs virgins?Aug 09 01:14
ender_33http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/EMACS_virgins_jokeAug 09 01:15
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Tom_Boh myAug 09 01:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] @jezra sorry *some* hammers are going crazy /cc @psquidAug 09 01:16
Tom_Bare people /still/ talking about this?Aug 09 01:16
ender_33_this_ is actually nothing in comparisonAug 09 01:16
Tom_Bsilly feministsAug 09 01:17
ender_33being a pig can be normal, but being an apologist for pedohpiles is *not*Aug 09 01:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] BBC reporting of London riots so appalling they're now saying Hackney is in west London (live text, 23:58)Aug 09 01:17
Tom_Bif feminists want to be equal to men, they deserve the right to be typecast just like the next guy :-pAug 09 01:18
SnitA joke perhaps in poor taste but really not a big deal.Aug 09 01:18
SnitAt least from my skimming of that.Aug 09 01:18
ender_33thats what I meanAug 09 01:18
ender_33people freaked out over _that_ but not the pedophilia apologismAug 09 01:19
SnitRight... a slightly off color joke is really a non-issue as far as I am concerned.Aug 09 01:19
SnitHis desire to allow high school students to view porn in school under the bizarre claim that it is educational borders on criminal.Aug 09 01:19
ender_33I bet if he said it in public he would be under investigationAug 09 01:19
SnitYeah... that is weird.Aug 09 01:19
ender_33I suspect not many read his blogAug 09 01:19
SnitI bet you are rightAug 09 01:19
SnitBut, still, why is it mostly ignored?Aug 09 01:19
Tom_Bpuh, student view pr0n at school anyway :-pAug 09 01:20
ender_33too shockingAug 09 01:20
SnitI wonder how media outlets would handle it if they knew?Aug 09 01:20
Tom_Bi know i didAug 09 01:20
ender_33its unbelievableAug 09 01:20
Tom_B:-pAug 09 01:20
ender_33I would think stallman.org was hackedAug 09 01:20
SnitTomB - not at schools where I work, at least not in any numbers.  I do what I can to block it.  And I certainly do not endorse it... and *most* certainly do not call it educational.Aug 09 01:20
SnitRoy said Stallman did not say those things - so maybe he thinks the site was hacked?Aug 09 01:21
Tom_Bi found it to be very educational :-pAug 09 01:21
Tom_BheheAug 09 01:21
SnitWait - he first said Stallman had not said it, then when he read it (after getting my help to search on the page - geeeez!) he claimed there was some invisible context I missed.Aug 09 01:21
Tom_Blearned a great deal about human anatomy and all :-DAug 09 01:21
SnitThough he could not say what.Aug 09 01:21
SnitTomB - I have no problem with schools teaching anatomy.  But porn is not about education... it is about fantasy.Aug 09 01:22
SnitI prefer hands on lessons to watching porn.  :)Aug 09 01:22
ender_33porn also goes into graphic detailAug 09 01:22
SnitBut I am *not* saying their should be such lessons in high schools!Aug 09 01:22
Tom_Byeah, but you're agains pedophilia :-pAug 09 01:22
SnitGraphic detail on fantasies.  Sure.Aug 09 01:22
SnitYes, I am... and the fact rms is not is quite disturbing.Aug 09 01:23
Tom_Bi would've preferred hands on lessons to in the first grade :-pAug 09 01:23
Snit"I am skeptical of the claim that voluntarily pedophilia harms children."Aug 09 01:23
Tom_Bwe had some very hot teacher chicks around there :-)Aug 09 01:23
SnitI mean, really... how can one not cringe at that?Aug 09 01:23
SnitUm, lovely.Aug 09 01:24
Tom_Boh come on...Aug 09 01:24
Tom_Bi knew a great deal about sexuality at 12, felt completely ready for it at 14, and then had to wait until 17 before i finally got someAug 09 01:25
Tom_Bnow that was not fair :-pAug 09 01:25
ender_33if only you knew at 15 about RMSAug 09 01:27
Tom_Bthe hormones were driving me fscking crazy!Aug 09 01:27
Tom_Byeah well, i'm not gay of course :-pAug 09 01:27
ender_33rms isn't a gender, thats a trick of evil corporate business menAug 09 01:28
Tom_Beh?Aug 09 01:28
ender_33rms is just a beardAug 09 01:28
Tom_Boh...Aug 09 01:28
Tom_Bokay...Aug 09 01:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] RT @csoghoian Exclusive (via FOIA): Warrantless "emergency" surveillance of Internet communications by DOJ up 400% https://eff.org/r.59JAug 09 01:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @AnonymousIRC: http://bit.ly/qKjJwN So, that means Blackberry is just giving away all private text messages to the police. Hello, Orw ...Aug 09 01:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Another film ruined by Hollywood.Aug 09 01:29
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Tom_Bi know the beard is made of parentheses...Aug 09 01:29
Tom_Bor so goes the legend at leasstAug 09 01:29
ender_33ahAug 09 01:30
SnitParentheses and toe nails.  :)Aug 09 01:33
SnitOK, laterAug 09 01:33
Tom_Byou know, i don't think it's possible to be for or against pedophiliaAug 09 01:34
Tom_Bi mean, how can you be 'against' a mental condition?Aug 09 01:35
Tom_Bit would be like saying i'm against schoiAug 09 01:35
Tom_BschizopheniaAug 09 01:35
Tom_Bor arachnaphobiaAug 09 01:35
Tom_Bor whateverAug 09 01:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] 2011-Aug-11: Deborah Dahl, Chair of the Multimodal Interaction Working Group, gives a talk entitled: "Designing and... http://ow.ly/1e9O4TAug 09 01:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] The Germans are so well educated you have to be qualified to get in Gaol. #IputmyfaithinGermanyAug 09 01:36
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Tom_Bof course i do have a problem with child molestersAug 09 01:37
Tom_Bbut then again, i also have a problem with 'adult molesters' :-pAug 09 01:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Police advice sheet distributed by London demonstrators/rioters http://t.co/G27yWLmAug 09 01:37
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Tom_Bdeath to 'em all!Aug 09 01:37
ender_33is an adult molester the same thing as a rapistAug 09 01:39
ender_33the rapistAug 09 01:39
ender_33therapistAug 09 01:39
Tom_Bwow, i'm afraid i'm not with you here :-pAug 09 01:41
Tom_Bit kind of looks like a joke i cannot understandAug 09 01:41
Tom_B:-pAug 09 01:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] AC unit overheated. Oh the irony.Aug 09 02:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @x11r5 Examine your house plants for pests and problems carefully: fight an infestation or disease early in the cockpit during flightsAug 09 03:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @reality @psquid Some guy was stealing Tesco Value rice. What's to stop them going after the toilet roll?Aug 09 03:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @cwebber "Down Goes The Internet… Again. Amazon EC2 Outage" http://techcrunch.com/2011/08/08/amazon-ec2-outage/Aug 09 03:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] Pragmatic growth: from 2 to 40 in 4 years http://blog.mozilla.com/webdev/2011/08/08/pragmatic-growth-from-2-to-40-in-4-years/Aug 09 04:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Amazon back up. Quora, Rstatus, etc return. http://t.co/ONExczEAug 09 04:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] RT @bkuhn @felipec,it's entirely possible !Linux can be great sw,even the greatest software project in history,& still have serious comm ...Aug 09 04:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] @nj3ma Doing great! Aiming to move more to #friendika and thus replace #identica, but ui is a bit cluttered and federation sometimes shaky.Aug 09 04:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] @fontana Hopefully none of the participants were there to "win".Aug 09 04:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] What do you do when you find out that it is that cat's backside that is on you head? My daughter wants to know :)Aug 09 05:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @clacke agreed. Though I was rooting for #mmeeks since his views seem closer to mine than @bkuhn's or #Shuttleworth'sAug 09 05:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Good morning identigers!Aug 09 05:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Was in half an hour early yesterday. Left home half an hour later today.Aug 09 05:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] RT @smarks The Introduction to Beard Growth & Maintenance Course: http://youtu.be/2OW3kvZLs_o?hd=1 !LOAug 09 05:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Experience is over rated.Aug 09 05:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Breakfast is the most important meal of the day.Aug 09 05:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Traffic is in gridlock.Aug 09 05:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Same tie.Aug 09 05:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Microfinance is often accused of making the poorest in society poorer, is akin to extorting the poorest of the poor, dispossessing them.Aug 09 05:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Leaving early tomorrow. Traffic is pathetic.Aug 09 05:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Hope owner of office lappie I left my phone charger on tucked it away for me safely.Aug 09 05:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] No Facebook ads promoting your new track/video? You daft.Aug 09 05:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Everyone seems to believe the !Nairobi real estate bubble is about to bust. Every indicator points to the contrary.Aug 09 05:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[freemjd/@freemjd] They call me @freemjd, master of the witty riposte with a one-week delay.Aug 09 06:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @threethirty: My plus account is officially suspended. Google and I have never really got along because I am #notaproductAug 09 06:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @mjjzf NASA & open source efforts http://informationweek.com/news/government/enterprise-architecture/231300239?nomobile=1 !LO newsAug 09 06:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @mozilla Pragmatic growth: from 2 to 40 in 4 years http://blog.mozilla.com/webdev/2011/08/08/pragmatic-growth-from-2-to-40-in-4-years/Aug 09 06:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] If a tree falls in the forest and nobody hears it, science can help us post-hoc induce a probability that some sound was made.Aug 09 06:56
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DaemonFCI noticed some gnome shell extensions have landed since I tried GNOME 3Aug 09 07:24
DaemonFCwonder if any of them make it tolerableAug 09 07:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] FAKE but nice (see comment section on why this is NOT a Lincoln quote)I see in the near future a crisis approaching tha... http://b1t.it/uSxAug 09 07:31
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schestowitzsmashing windows and looting in the streets..not just in london anymore...birmingham too...The police shot one man to death...3 days of protest now... And the PM returned early from vacation to run a stealth meeting... The FTSE fell sharply yesterday... Asian market also took the beating... and people worry that it's the second big dip happening now.Aug 09 07:37
DaemonFC13 states have better credit ratings than the US federal government nowAug 09 07:38
DaemonFCIndiana is one of themAug 09 07:38
DaemonFCnot surprisingly, states that are being downgraded depend heavily on wasteful federal spending Aug 09 07:38
MinceRtime to secede? :>Aug 09 07:38
DaemonFCMinceR, Indiana as a sovereign nation? it wouldn't be the smallestAug 09 07:39
schestowitzjabba has no debtAug 09 07:39
DaemonFCquite a bit bigger than say, Ireland Aug 09 07:39
DaemonFCboth population and land areaAug 09 07:39
DaemonFCunfortunately, the US constitution leaves no process for leaving and if you try, they send the federal troops to stop youAug 09 07:40
DaemonFCit's been done :)Aug 09 07:40
MinceR:>Aug 09 07:41
MinceRwhen was the last time?Aug 09 07:41
DaemonFC1860-1865Aug 09 07:41
DaemonFCthe US civil warAug 09 07:41
DaemonFCafter the end of the war, the feds appointed military governors to the states that tried to secede, which is illegalAug 09 07:42
DaemonFCand the US Supreme Court declared that the Confederate government never existed since there is no provision for secession in the US constitution Aug 09 07:43
DaemonFCmartial law was illegally declared in many northern statesAug 09 07:43
DaemonFCthe constitution only allows for that if the civilian police and court systems are not functionalAug 09 07:44
DaemonFC:)Aug 09 07:44
DaemonFCthey just ignore the constitution whenever it suits them, MinceR Aug 09 07:44
DaemonFCyou know :)Aug 09 07:44
MinceRindeedAug 09 07:44
DaemonFCMinceR, for a couple of years recently, I believe 2006-2007, there was a federal law that Bush signed that gave him the power to declare what effectively amounts to martial law at his discretionAug 09 07:45
DaemonFCit wasn't phrased as suchAug 09 07:45
DaemonFCthe Democrats attached a bill to repeal that law to the 2007 military spending billAug 09 07:46
DaemonFC:)Aug 09 07:46
DaemonFCfor a while the only way to check Bush was to wait until it came time for "must pass" bills like military spending authorization and pile on riders using parliamentary maneuver to reverse things he has already signed into law earlierAug 09 07:47
DaemonFCof course it has happened a lot under every president, so the US federal code is full of crap that later another section comes along and simply repealsAug 09 07:48
DaemonFCa lot of bills aren't even readable, they'll say "In the such and such act, on section 2, paragraph 4, clause 8 the word foo is stricken and replaced by bar"Aug 09 07:49
DaemonFCor something to that effectAug 09 07:49
DaemonFCsometimes a bill is just pages and pages that read out like thatAug 09 07:49
DaemonFCwhoever has to keep track of federal laws has job security, they change every dayAug 09 07:49
MinceRlolAug 09 07:50
DaemonFCMinceR, Microsoft and other companies were lobbying for the repeal of Sarbanes-Oxley a while backAug 09 07:52
DaemonFChttps://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Sarbanes%E2%80%93Oxley_ActAug 09 07:52
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DaemonFCpublicly traded companies don't like any law that forces them to tell their shareholders more or less what they're up toAug 09 07:53
DaemonFCthey claim the minimal compliance costs are an "undue burden" and "gee, whouldn't it be better if nobody regulated us at all?"Aug 09 07:53
DaemonFCMinceR, according to Wikipedia, the land area of Indiana is larger than all of Hungary Aug 09 07:55
DaemonFCbut there are a third less people here B-)Aug 09 07:55
DaemonFCI think we could be our own country, we even have shipping lanes to/from the ocean via the great lakesAug 09 07:56
DaemonFCas a state, we can't even get the feds to let us control the Asian carp problem threatening the great lakesAug 09 07:57
DaemonFCit's a good thing the EPA is there to do nothing :)Aug 09 07:57
MinceRdoesn't surprise meAug 09 07:57
MinceRthe area, that isAug 09 07:57
MinceRthe population kind of doesAug 09 07:57
MinceRhungaristan is not a populous placeAug 09 07:57
cubezzzis Hungary still Microsoftland or is that changing?Aug 09 07:57
MinceRdunnoAug 09 07:58
DaemonFCthere's very large sections of Indiana which are barely populated, it will be corn or soybean fields or something for miles with just criss crossing rural and state roadsAug 09 07:58
MinceRi'm more concerned about the fundamentalist totalitarian dictatorshipAug 09 07:58
DaemonFCthen you arrive in a population center and it will be a clump of peopleAug 09 07:58
DaemonFCthen miles and miles of nothingAug 09 07:58
DaemonFCthen another population centerAug 09 07:58
DaemonFC:PAug 09 07:58
MinceRmost of the people here are clumped in budapestAug 09 07:59
DaemonFCMinceR, you get to where I'm at and it's like the village of the meth cooker damnedAug 09 08:00
DaemonFCwith nothing but 20-30 miles of corn in every directionAug 09 08:00
DaemonFCit's sad :(Aug 09 08:00
DaemonFCMinceR, I think of George Carlin every dayAug 09 08:01
DaemonFCyou remember that part where he was talking about not in my back yard?Aug 09 08:01
MinceRi don'tAug 09 08:01
DaemonFCand he got to the part about how nobody wanted to live near a prisonAug 09 08:01
cubezzzCarlin was a bit too vulgarAug 09 08:01
DaemonFCbut he said living near a prison is the safest place you can beAug 09 08:02
DaemonFCbecause criminals don't tend to hang around and check out housing pricesAug 09 08:02
DaemonFC:)Aug 09 08:02
cubezzzand what about when someone escapes?Aug 09 08:02
MinceRi don't understand this "too vulgar" concept :>Aug 09 08:02
DaemonFCI live across the street from the county jail, and it's one of the lowest crime areas in this entire cityAug 09 08:02
cubezzzMinceR, basically swearing, anti-establishment rhetoricAug 09 08:03
MinceRcubezzz: they fleeAug 09 08:03
MinceRcubezzz: that's fine with meAug 09 08:03
DaemonFCpeople really do tend to take their crime away from the area swarming with law enforcementAug 09 08:03
DaemonFC:)Aug 09 08:03
DaemonFCthe further you get from a law enforcement center of any kind, jail, sheriff's office, police station, the more the crime goes upAug 09 08:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] FYI re: PDF in !LO feed: https://plus.google.com/u/1/105047371315992982745/posts/Ag4J47JjKrVAug 09 08:04
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DaemonFCit's obviously having a psychological impact on most criminalsAug 09 08:04
DaemonFCthey wait until it's out of view before they go back to breaking the lawAug 09 08:04
cubezzzthey say crime is going downAug 09 08:04
cubezzzgenerally speakingAug 09 08:04
DaemonFCI would expect crime to be going upAug 09 08:05
cubezzzwhite collar crime, I'm not sure aboutAug 09 08:05
DaemonFCwith all these people out of work and allAug 09 08:05
DaemonFCwhen people get desperate they will resort to things they never would have considered when times were betterAug 09 08:06
cubezzzit's mainly a pretext thoughAug 09 08:06
cubezzza criminal element taking advantage of civil unrestAug 09 08:06
cubezzzso they inflame itAug 09 08:06
cubezzzpeople are a million times better off now than say 1933Aug 09 08:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @threethirty: ♻ @THErealDVORAK: Police, Yet Again, Arrest Someone For Filming Them, Saying It's Obstruction Of Justice http://j.mp/oxsc4GAug 09 08:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @alextootchie: RT @sapiensbryan: Nokia N9 Swiping Gestures youtu.be/V8o5Ttf6Rdg #MeeGo #Harmattan #MeeGoAug 09 08:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @alextootchie: RT @sapiensbryan: Nokia N9 Camera Features youtu.be/hILoKG7MbXA #MeeGo #HarmattanAug 09 08:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] " Hope for the best, be prepared for the worst " - random quoteAug 09 08:07
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DaemonFConly because the government borrows from China to pay unemployment for years on endAug 09 08:07
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DaemonFCthat can't last foreverAug 09 08:08
cubezzzno, you can't get unemployment insurance indefinitelyAug 09 08:08
DaemonFCif you get shot in the leg, maybe tying a t-shirt around it is better than nothingAug 09 08:08
cubezzzmaybe 2 years or soAug 09 08:08
DaemonFCbut it can't be the extent of your planAug 09 08:08
DaemonFCand the government has yet to come up with the next step for what to do about thisAug 09 08:09
cubezzzwell the US did recover from the Great DepressionAug 09 08:10
DaemonFCRonald Reagan said government doesn't solve problems, government IS the problem.Aug 09 08:10
DaemonFCof course then he went and sank money into worthless military boondoggles and suchAug 09 08:10
cubezzzhe proved himself right thenAug 09 08:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @meegoblog: MWKN Weekly News for Monday, 8 Aug 2011 | Maemo Nokia N900 | Maemo ... http://nowskip.to/pLk5b7Aug 09 08:11
iophkThat was obvious- he was part of the government at the time Aug 09 08:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Why Next Big Thing Come From Small Innovations - http://on.mash.to/qzsRO6 "bundle together a patchwork of innovations": why patents obstructAug 09 08:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Mozilla Interview: Why Firefox Matters - http://bit.ly/pVZk2d Johnathan Nightingale Mozilla’s Director of Firefox EngineeringAug 09 08:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Stuff to start a depressing day (for the market) with [IMG] http://imgur.com/Iiuzl Asian markets mostly in the red today http://ur1.ca/4vo1zAug 09 08:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Riots in the UK (not just in London anymore) has had the PM cancel his vacation and call for some kind of emergency meeting.Aug 09 08:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] How To Make A Mockery Of Your Own Law School: Sue Your Critics - http://bit.ly/qoTJKC @mmasnick on his Streisand Effect once moreAug 09 08:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Doom 3 Source-Code To Be Released This Year http://ur1.ca/4unir sharing one's work. #doomAug 09 08:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Brainwashed by Microsoft http://ur1.ca/4vo6d may be of interest. #gnu #linux #fudAug 09 08:44
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schestowitzIt is said (in the radio) that retail was up last month in the UKAug 09 08:55
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/fcassia/status/100833415762415616Aug 09 08:56
TechrightsBot-tr@fcassia: @schestowitz I see the fundamentalists are stepping up their campaign againt CLAs... not happy w having killed StarOfice and many FOSS jobsAug 09 08:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Microsoft- and Apple-funded #IDG (through ads and #IDC contracts) has a "Tux Love" blog promoting Apple http://ur1.ca/4vohsAug 09 09:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Today's installment of !InconstantMoon is posted: http://ur1.ca/4voitAug 09 09:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @neptune78 !reading Inconstant Moon No. 74: http://inconstantmoon.russwurm.org/blogs/2011/08/09/74/Aug 09 09:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] .... stumbling off to bed... why isn't there ever enough time?Aug 09 09:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] goodnight !IdentiverseAug 09 09:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Businesses too -- not just people -- take the beating today http://ur1.ca/4vcpb second dipAug 09 09:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Democracy finally comes to London http://ur1.ca/4vomuAug 09 09:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @schestowitz: #Doom 3 Source-Code To Be Released This Year http://ur1.ca/4unir sharing one's work. #doomAug 09 09:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] "We are all in it together" rioters say otherwise.Aug 09 09:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] $199 GNU/Linux Machine From Asus http://ur1.ca/4vomxAug 09 09:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Is human mating behaviour the real driving force of any economy?Aug 09 09:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Some people like to think it's a transfer of wealth (usually to "bankers"), but it's really just the vanishing of money created from nothingAug 09 09:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Windows Phone loses a key general manager - http://tnw.co/q0MjHe hardly the best timing... #smartphonesAug 09 09:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Linux 3.0.1 http://ur1.ca/4urtpAug 09 09:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Top 5 Plasma Widgets for the !KDE Desktop http://ur1.ca/4vore my favourite is Web BrowserAug 09 09:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #NPC to offer GNU/Linux class this fall http://ur1.ca/4votc "It’s been called the Universal Operating System"Aug 09 09:36
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DaemonFCthere's enough packaged gnome shell extensions to make GNOME 3 usable in FedoraAug 09 09:44
DaemonFCit's not as bad as last time I tried it :PAug 09 09:44
schestowitzWTH?Aug 09 09:51
schestowitzhttp://keithcu.com/wordpress/?p=2689Aug 09 09:51
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schestowitzHe's a Microsoft revisionistAug 09 09:51
schestowitzMono pusher tooAug 09 09:51
schestowitzhttp://www.tuxmachines.org/node/54141Aug 09 09:51
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schestowitzBlechAug 09 09:51
schestowitzDaemonFC: what's the news like in the US, about the economy and all?Aug 09 09:52
schestowitzI think Linux is a minor issue this week compared to what's happening in commerceAug 09 09:52
DaemonFCapparently no ratings agency has demoted the federal government in 70 yearsAug 09 09:52
DaemonFCthey finally did cut them down a notch and now everyone is panicking Aug 09 09:53
MinceRgeekingsAug 09 09:53
DaemonFCiirc, the UK has roughly $150,000 USD in debt per personAug 09 09:53
DaemonFCthe US only has $50,000Aug 09 09:53
DaemonFCthe problem is the US is a lot biggerAug 09 09:53
DaemonFCthe problem has something to do with the joblessness problems but most of it has been coming for decades nowAug 09 09:55
DaemonFClots of people are getting close to retirementAug 09 09:55
DaemonFCpoliticians want top move the goal post back because if that many people hit the system at once, it will collapse since they stole and squandered all the money alreadyAug 09 09:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] RT @sebas Desktop Summit Thoughts - http://vizZzion.org/blog/2011/08/desktop-summit-thoughts/Aug 09 09:56
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DaemonFCfilling up Social Security with IOUs is only going to work as long as they can keep jacking up the retirement age so fewer and fewer people ever get to retireAug 09 09:56
DaemonFCwhat's interesting is they've never openly discussed moving the goalpost back for people that will retire in 10-20 yearsAug 09 09:57
DaemonFCusually they just change it so that people in my age range get fucked overAug 09 09:57
DaemonFCbut nobody thinks about retirement a lot when they're in their 20sAug 09 09:57
DaemonFCso it doesn't get them thrown out of office left and right from enraged votersAug 09 09:58
DaemonFCnow they're openly discussing screwing my parents generation overAug 09 09:58
DaemonFCmaking them wait to 67 for Medicare for exampleAug 09 09:58
DaemonFCthey're already freezing Social Security cost of living increases with fuzzy accountingAug 09 09:59
DaemonFCso they're fucking over people that are already on or within a few years of retiring, and that's worryingAug 09 09:59
DaemonFCthe fact that they don't even care anymore about the largest voting blocAug 09 09:59
DaemonFCschestowitz, I'd liken this to maybe not quite as bad as Germany after World War I Aug 09 10:00
DaemonFCyou know, everyone is broke, generations are living in the same house, etc.Aug 09 10:00
DaemonFCbut some of that is starting to happenAug 09 10:00
DaemonFCIndiana University has been jacking up tuition a lot latelyAug 09 10:01
DaemonFCstate cuts their funding, they raise the price to live in dormsAug 09 10:01
DaemonFCmore people move out to cheap apartments or stay with the parents while going to schoolAug 09 10:02
DaemonFCso the school raises tuition to cover the empty dormsAug 09 10:02
DaemonFCyou can tell a nation is crumbling when they no longer bother to invest in their citizens or with public works projectsAug 09 10:03
DaemonFCwe've gone from landing on the moon, building the interstate system, and the hoover dam, to Obama calling $900 billion to fix potholes and insulate government office buildings a "stimulus"Aug 09 10:04
DaemonFC:PAug 09 10:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] This is why arson has a 10 year sentence. Not because it threatens life but anyone can do it and it destroys property.Aug 09 10:04
DaemonFCExcuse me MinceR, could I trouble you for some duct tape? you see, I'm trying to improve the insulation in my cardboard box and uhhh, yeah.....Aug 09 10:05
MinceRwait till you get someone like orbanAug 09 10:05
MinceRyou have it nice and easy nowAug 09 10:05
schestowitzhttp://finance.yahoo.com/intlindices?e=europeAug 09 10:06
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schestowitzdown 5%.. and it's only 10amAug 09 10:06
DaemonFCyeah, I think everyone is robbing peter to pay paul right now :P Aug 09 10:07
DaemonFCfrom the government on downAug 09 10:07
schestowitzI think Linux is a minor issue this week compared to what's happening in commerceAug 09 10:07
schestowitz[09:53] <DaemonFC> iirc, the UK has roughly $150,000 USD in debt per personAug 09 10:07
schestowitz[09:53] <DaemonFC> the US only has $50,000Aug 09 10:07
schestowitzGot source for that?Aug 09 10:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @jargon AU urges the Royal Family to dissolve Parliament and acknowledge Rebels as legitimate govt.Aug 09 10:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The way things are going this morning < http://ur1.ca/4vcpb > the banks will ask for another bailout -- one that the public cannot deliverAug 09 10:07
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schestowitzIIRC, it's same debt/person in both nationsAug 09 10:07
schestowitzI checked around 2008Aug 09 10:07
DaemonFCnews article I was reading the other dayAug 09 10:08
DaemonFCtalking about credit ratings and suchAug 09 10:08
schestowitz[09:58] <DaemonFC> making them wait to 67 for Medicare for exampleAug 09 10:08
schestowitzThey can do a copyright/MickeyMouse-like liding windiwAug 09 10:08
schestowitzIncrease the age by 2 years every 2 years :-)Aug 09 10:09
schestowitz"You're almost there... ah... just not yet.... gotcha"Aug 09 10:09
DaemonFCyeah, that's not far offAug 09 10:09
schestowitz[10:00] <DaemonFC> schestowitz, I'd liken this to maybe not quite as bad as Germany after World War I Aug 09 10:09
schestowitzLeading to hyperinflation tooAug 09 10:10
schestowitz[10:01] <DaemonFC> Indiana University has been jacking up tuition a lot latelyAug 09 10:10
schestowitzI had a 2-hour chat with someone last week after he had spoken to someone from Leicester UniversityAug 09 10:10
schestowitzThe prices for higher education here triple nowAug 09 10:10
schestowitzSo the academics are very worriedAug 09 10:10
DaemonFCincrease the price of education so that very few of the underclass can afford itAug 09 10:10
schestowitzStudents might simply not come, obsoleting the lecturersAug 09 10:11
DaemonFCit makes little difference to the children of a Bill Gates type what tuition costs or whereAug 09 10:11
schestowitzThe prices for higher education here triple now[10:05] <MinceR> wait till you get someone like orbanAug 09 10:11
schestowitzwhy, why does Viktor do now?Aug 09 10:11
schestowitz[10:10] <DaemonFC> increase the price of education so that very few of the underclass can afford itAug 09 10:12
schestowitzThen you can justify screwing the poorAug 09 10:12
schestowitzRationalising lack of parityAug 09 10:12
schestowitz"Johnny had a 6-figure job because he could afford college, you couldn't, so.."Aug 09 10:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @jargon is there a chance that christianist extremist will hijack this revolution for their own evil purposes? on the line our christ ...Aug 09 10:12
DaemonFCback to scrubbing toilets and busing tables!Aug 09 10:13
schestowitzmaking ipadsAug 09 10:13
DaemonFCwork for that $2.50 an hour and hope someone tips you!Aug 09 10:13
DaemonFC:)Aug 09 10:13
schestowitzMaybe China will open soma factories in DetroitAug 09 10:13
schestowitzlabour for food stampsAug 09 10:13
schestowitzand medical care.. if you save upAug 09 10:13
DaemonFCschestowitz, wherever labor is cheapest, that's not just salary and benefits eitherAug 09 10:13
DaemonFCthey like to set up in places with minimal worker safety lawsAug 09 10:14
schestowitz50 cents an hour is not bad when you're hungryAug 09 10:14
schestowitzI guess the US could still compete with China on priceAug 09 10:14
DaemonFCguy gets his arm ripped off, put a new guy on that line the next dayAug 09 10:14
DaemonFCforget about the old oneAug 09 10:14
DaemonFC:)Aug 09 10:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] A woman in a riot area hit the nail on the head. "They do not feel part of society or it offers anything for them"Aug 09 10:14
DaemonFCwhat a bargainAug 09 10:14
schestowitzThe house prices in the States fell to $50k for some decent housesAug 09 10:14
schestowitzIt's like 2008 all over again, unless it's reversing soonAug 09 10:14
MinceRschestowitz: orban does more of the sameAug 09 10:15
schestowitzRight not there's a stampede and a run on the bank (stock market actually)Aug 09 10:15
DaemonFCschestowitz, around here the housing market is so bad that you have houses that were $60-70k a few years agoAug 09 10:15
schestowitzMinceR: Obama does Change{tm}Aug 09 10:15
MinceRnow they're taking workers' rights awayAug 09 10:15
DaemonFCselling for $10-15k nowAug 09 10:15
schestowitzHe tries anywayAug 09 10:15
schestowitzThe Republicans still tell him what to doAug 09 10:15
MinceRthey also handed over some schools to cultistsAug 09 10:16
DaemonFCschestowitz, You notice Bush had pretty good control over the DemocratsAug 09 10:16
schestowitzMy friend from the gym, Michelle, says some houses get domolishedAug 09 10:16
DaemonFCthey got a few things past him but not like thisAug 09 10:16
schestowitzI asked her, who pays for the job?Aug 09 10:16
schestowitzTo domolish..Aug 09 10:16
schestowitzUsually you are left with just ghost townsAug 09 10:16
schestowitzShe lives in CarolinaAug 09 10:16
DaemonFCObama goes along with them so often it's the next best thing to Bush still being thereAug 09 10:16
schestowitzShe can't sell her house in AtlantaAug 09 10:16
schestowitzNo matter how much she lowers the priceAug 09 10:16
schestowitzShe has tried for 3 years nowAug 09 10:16
schestowitz[10:16] <MinceR> they also handed over some schools to cultistsAug 09 10:17
schestowitzOK, but what type of cultists?Aug 09 10:17
DaemonFCoh, those Tea Party bible campsAug 09 10:17
DaemonFCindoctrinating thousands of kids with their nonsenseAug 09 10:18
DaemonFCit's probably no worse than what the parents already filled their heads with anywayAug 09 10:18
MinceRschestowitz: childfuckersAug 09 10:18
MinceR(roman catholics)Aug 09 10:18
DaemonFCthose evangelicals will fill your head so full of shit it will ooze out of your earsAug 09 10:18
DaemonFCcatholics have nothing on thatAug 09 10:19
MinceRnow they're telling the kids to join the cult or travel daily to another village far awayAug 09 10:19
DaemonFCSEIG HEIL SEIG HEIL!!!!! Can I have one of those cool knives now?Aug 09 10:19
DaemonFCI promise to kill a commie for mommy!Aug 09 10:20
DaemonFCI wonder what Linus would say about Unity, a lot of these sites have picked up on his latest rants about GNOME ShellAug 09 10:21
DaemonFChe keeps quiet about Ubuntu no matter what stupid things they do and has gone so far to say he likes itAug 09 10:21
schestowitzMinceR: right, that's what I fearedAug 09 10:21
schestowitzLOL at [10:18] <MinceR> schestowitz: childfuckersAug 09 10:22
schestowitzSome major riots in the UK this week, since the weekendAug 09 10:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The Linus effect http://ur1.ca/4vp9c #linux #desktop #gnome #xfceAug 09 10:22
schestowitzThe police shot dead someoneAug 09 10:22
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schestowitzWhich led to even more backlashAug 09 10:23
schestowitzThere's looting and robberyAug 09 10:23
schestowitzLike Katrina... with the police shootings tooAug 09 10:23
schestowitzBut there is no curricaneAug 09 10:23
schestowitz*hAug 09 10:23
DaemonFCschestowitz, You saw where the jury in Louisiana convicted all those police officers of every charge against them from shooting unarmed civilians after Katrina, right?Aug 09 10:24
DaemonFCmaybe there is some justice in the worldAug 09 10:24
DaemonFCI'll wait to comment further until I see what the sentences areAug 09 10:24
schestowitzjustice after 8 years?Aug 09 10:24
schestowitzOr 7/Aug 09 10:24
DaemonFCwe still try Nazi prison camp guards if we find themAug 09 10:24
schestowitz /IF/Aug 09 10:24
schestowitzno conviction yetAug 09 10:24
DaemonFCwhy not some crooked cops 7-8 years later?Aug 09 10:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] A newbie’s report on !Kubuntu http://ur1.ca/4vpap #ubuntu #gnu #linuxAug 09 10:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] With all the "security" cameras in London, what could possibly go wrong? ... err, wait.Aug 09 10:27
MinceRcommies running the previous dictatorship are still running around free hereAug 09 10:30
MinceRsome of them even mouth off about stuffAug 09 10:30
DaemonFCback in my day, we'd just shoot youAug 09 10:31
DaemonFCthese pussies only flog!Aug 09 10:31
DaemonFCB-)Aug 09 10:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @jargon the AU *must* assist the UK Rebel Army with airstrikes and ground troops. we must learn from the past & break with it.Aug 09 10:32
DaemonFCMinceR, Round up all the opposition, trump up charges, proceed with show trial, then firing squadAug 09 10:33
DaemonFCthat's a proper dictatorship Aug 09 10:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @jrobertson: I've found a way to exchange files between the Archos 101 and the E71 using a pair of tweezers.Aug 09 10:34
MinceRDaemonFC: they're doing that nowAug 09 10:35
DaemonFCoh, well, congratulations :)Aug 09 10:35
MinceRthey're planning to convict the previous few prime ministers and whomeverAug 09 10:35
DaemonFCI'd publicly agree with everything while trying to escapeAug 09 10:35
DaemonFCwith prosecutors and judges hand picked by the current regimeAug 09 10:36
DaemonFCI'm sure they'll get treated fairlyAug 09 10:36
DaemonFCB-)Aug 09 10:36
MinceRof courseAug 09 10:36
MinceRthey're making retroactive lawsAug 09 10:36
MinceRthey've already taken over the judicial systemAug 09 10:36
DaemonFCboth my state constitution and the federal constitution prohibit such lawsAug 09 10:37
DaemonFCand have since the first draft :)Aug 09 10:37
DaemonFChoorayAug 09 10:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #google+ invites needed still? I've got some going here, feel free to use them while they last - http://bit.ly/ohNKctAug 09 10:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Party like its 1929 on stock exchanges all over the planet. Get out your hats and have the girls ready for a round of c... http://b1t.it/uY1Aug 09 10:37
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DaemonFCbut there's still plenty of ways they can screw you over and still stay within their assigned powersAug 09 10:37
MinceRthey've made a law saying that the constitutional court has no authority if it would affect the budget (so in effect the constitution was placed out of power back then)Aug 09 10:38
MinceRthey also intimidated the constitutional court and put their own people in itAug 09 10:38
MinceRthen they replaced the constitutionAug 09 10:38
DaemonFCwell, this is called logical progressionAug 09 10:38
MinceRmore like flailing around while building a dictatorshipAug 09 10:39
MinceRa lot of these steps were unnecessaryAug 09 10:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] RT @whirli RT @robconnolly: Fscking Awesome! Cosmos is coming back, Neil deGrasse Tyson to host http://bit.ly/pBH3HrAug 09 10:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Cosmos is coming back at Skeptical Science .::. Size~: 19.02 KBAug 09 10:39
DaemonFCremoving or supplanting any branch of the government that may oppose youAug 09 10:39
DaemonFCwhy risk a constitutional crisis when you can just rewrite the constitution and leave them out?Aug 09 10:39
MinceRexactlyAug 09 10:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Would the rioters please not burn down listed buildings.Aug 09 10:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] "America's [patent] system is a travesty which threatens the wealth and welfare of the whole world", says Economist blog http://ur1.ca/4u9jbAug 09 10:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Intellectual property: Patents against prosperity | The Economist .::. Size~: 112.28 KBAug 09 10:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] I don't understand while people have a problem with me saying a program designed to play media files should ignore PDFs. WTF, people!?Aug 09 10:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @jwildeboer Party like its 1929 on stock exchanges all over the planet. Get out your hats... http://b1t.it/uY1 < sad, actuallyAug 09 10:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Jan Wildeboer - Google+ .::. Size~: 35.58 KBAug 09 10:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Google does not properly support KHMTL/Konqueror, warning visitors that it didn't cater for the browser. How about using standards?Aug 09 10:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @whirli RT @robconnolly: Fscking Awesome! Cosmos is coming back, Neil deGrasse Tyson to host http://bit.ly/pBH3HrAug 09 10:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Cosmos is coming back at Skeptical Science .::. Size~: 19.02 KBAug 09 10:56
schestowitzMSFT down 5%Aug 09 10:56
cubezzzeverything's downAug 09 10:57
cubezzzsince last FridayAug 09 10:57
schestowitzApple wins http://www.dailyfinance.com/quotes/apple-inc/aapl/nasAug 09 10:57
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schestowitzcubezzz: I know..Aug 09 10:57
cubezzzclose to an investor panicAug 09 10:57
schestowitzLOL invstorAug 09 10:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Nuff said: https://plus.google.com/u/1/105047371315992982745/posts/jYxYXg4PgnNAug 09 10:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Public Domain Review has a new website! - http://bit.ly/qLDRC6 nice #pdAug 09 10:57
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Fabian Scherschel - Google+ .::. Size~: 35.91 KBAug 09 10:57
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schestowitzMore people like people pretending to be wealth gatherersAug 09 10:57
schestowitzIdiots shouldn't be investing in the market anywayAug 09 10:58
schestowitzIt's high risk in a high risk economy hinged on debtAug 09 10:58
schestowitznICE TRICK http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lpmpuduIhU1qzr8hno1_500.jpgAug 09 10:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Nice stunt http://i.imgur.com/Tic8N.gifAug 09 11:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] 1929 the stock exchanges crashed. But the real crisis started two years later. #justsayinAug 09 11:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] One of my pet hates.... Wembley an industrial shed with an arch over it. #horribleAug 09 11:06
cubezzzwell there's TSE: POTAug 09 11:06
cubezzzor mining operatingsAug 09 11:06
cubezzzer, operationsAug 09 11:06
cubezzzthat's based on a real commodityAug 09 11:06
cubezzzeven POT is downAug 09 11:07
DaemonFCI'll invest in some POTAug 09 11:07
DaemonFCfork it overAug 09 11:07
DaemonFC:)Aug 09 11:07
cubezzzpotash in this case DaemonFCAug 09 11:07
DaemonFC:(Aug 09 11:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] #Libya has decided to recognise the rioters as the legitimate government of Britain. #onegoodturndeservesanotherAug 09 11:09
schestowitzlolAug 09 11:11
amarsh04ABC 730 is interviewing Lee Jasper http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_JasperAug 09 11:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Why everyone is affected by current events: Violence, rioting and looting breaks out across England http://ur1.ca/4vpthAug 09 11:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Wunderbarer Hack! https://plus.google.com/114122296445095631091/posts/jf6kzrnp2FbAug 09 11:12
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BBC News - Violence, rioting and looting breaks out across England .::. Size~: 70.44 KBAug 09 11:12
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amarsh04next item was the fact that in .au superannuation funds have on average only matched inflationAug 09 11:13
DaemonFCschestowitz, I recognize Ronald McDonald and the Hamburglar as the legitimate executives of the US government, and Joe Camel can be Speaker of the HouseAug 09 11:14
DaemonFCsee what growing up without liberals running things does?Aug 09 11:14
DaemonFC:PAug 09 11:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] RT @karsten "America's [patent] system is a travesty which threatens the wealth and welfare of the whole world", says Economist blog htt ...Aug 09 11:14
amarsh04back later...Aug 09 11:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @dirkriehle Ulf Leser, on genome sequencing: Sequencing is becoming cheaper than storing the data. Throw away hard drives, buy freezers.Aug 09 11:16
schestowitzamarsh04: have a good oneAug 09 11:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] “Everything You Say Can And Will Be Used Against You, By Anybody, Now Or Decades Into The Future.” - http://bit.ly/oBdAVn think about itAug 09 11:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Recycle's Friend, Reuse http://ur1.ca/4vpup that's where #GNU #Linux comes handyAug 09 11:17
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amarsh04haven't gone yet, the 730 programme is still interesting... now covering the ratings agenciesAug 09 11:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Blog post about what happened with the LO feed last night: http://sixgun.org/blog/2011/feed-hiccupAug 09 11:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Disney to Produce Penguin Film… Called ‘Tux’. http://ur1.ca/4vpv3 can be good for Linux, unlike Gore's infamous use of Tux penguinsAug 09 11:19
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Sixgun Productions .::. Size~: 17.92 KBAug 09 11:19
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amarsh04noting the fact that the agencies had given Enron favourable ratings up until 3 days before Enron's collapseAug 09 11:20
schestowitzamarsh04: they're corrupt much of the timeAug 09 11:20
schestowitzLike analysts in generalAug 09 11:20
schestowitzRec. for saleAug 09 11:20
schestowitzI have a video about Moody'sAug 09 11:20
schestowitzWhere they admit to thatAug 09 11:20
schestowitzIt's on techrights...Aug 09 11:20
DaemonFCschestowitz, If you don't believe in ManBearPig, I will kill this cute little penguin. -Al GoreAug 09 11:21
DaemonFC?Aug 09 11:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] A Linux magazine covers proprietary SaaS software and baits Google http://ur1.ca/4vpve what's the relevance to Linux?Aug 09 11:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] I believe I made my opinions regarding this topic abundandly clear. You don't have to agree with me but this discussion is over.Aug 09 11:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Is Google too big to get anything done? | Linux User .::. Size~: 53.67 KBAug 09 11:21
schestowitztry techrights.org/videos/moodys.ogvAug 09 11:21
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/videos/moodys.ogvAug 09 11:21
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schestowitzHad to find grep itAug 09 11:22
amarsh04agreed schestowitz... no transcripts yet but more will follow at http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/content/2011/s3288502.htmAug 09 11:22
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schestowitzDaemonFC: NabBearPig doesn't understand stock marketAug 09 11:22
schestowitzDaemonFC: Remember, the only think to be eaten before people friends are their petsAug 09 11:22
schestowitzKeep Jabba safeAug 09 11:22
DaemonFCManBearPig is punishing the NASDAQ this morningAug 09 11:22
DaemonFCbecause he's mad that people won't believe in himAug 09 11:23
schestowitzHe quit it before the collapseAug 09 11:23
schestowitzHe knew better that those homo sapientsAug 09 11:23
schestowitzPeople should listen to theit dogs more than to analystsAug 09 11:23
schestowitzI heard this from some people 10 years agoAug 09 11:23
schestowitzIt's not just guessworkAug 09 11:23
schestowitzRandom chance might be betterAug 09 11:24
schestowitzAnalysts are waging games for someoneAug 09 11:24
amarsh04just downloading that video nowAug 09 11:24
schestowitzAnd it it's not you, then it's for someone elseAug 09 11:24
schestowitzThey drive up stocks their friends will later sell before you doAug 09 11:24
schestowitzamarsh04: this was posted last night http://twitter.com/dizzy_fisch/statuses/100647678924435456Aug 09 11:25
TechrightsBot-tr@dizzy_fisch: Meet the tech forecast bullshitartists. Today: Gartner Group - Techrights http://bit.ly/pHyWAxAug 09 11:25
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amarsh04hehehe...Aug 09 11:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: @RudolfLegat @ECspokesMichael DG Environment is responsible for this directive - contact in the relevant u http://p.ost.im/p/eRN3fgAug 09 11:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @dizzy_fisch: Meet the tech forecast bullshitartists. Today: Gartner Group - Techrights http://bit.ly/pHyWAxAug 09 11:26
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schestowitz!google KucinichAug 09 11:26
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Congressman Dennis J. Kucinich | Proudly Serving Ohio's 10th District | http://kucinich.house.gov/Aug 09 11:26
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Dennis Kucinich - Watch this video - donate to make sure our voice ... | http://kucinich.us/Aug 09 11:26
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - kucinich.us - Home | http://kucinich.us/dk.htmlAug 09 11:26
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Dennis Kucinich - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_KucinichAug 09 11:26
schestowitzI've just RTd itAug 09 11:27
schestowitzseems like an appropriate time to do so...Aug 09 11:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Video (Ogg): US financial 'analysts' (Moody's) admit to selling "recommendations" http://ur1.ca/1epzl "This is criminal!" --KucinichAug 09 11:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] BR: Government signs up to develop OpenOffice and LibreOffice http://ur1.ca/4vpxc "On 1 July 2011... maintained by both communities."Aug 09 11:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Police federation representative takes time out to voice his opposition to police cuts.Aug 09 11:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] British Chamber of Commerce when asked about rioting "We have heard there is money in it and we are lobbying for the contract"Aug 09 11:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Are rating companies taking over the role of the governments? Are they becoming the global overlords? I do hope not.Aug 09 11:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] When in #Romania... - http://bit.ly/oRQZf5 terrifying tales from the Carpathians #opensource #procurementAug 09 11:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: When in Romania... - Open Enterprise .::. Size~: 67.5 KBAug 09 11:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Rioters are stealing, maybe they are following example of bankers?Aug 09 11:42
iophk'When in Romania' talks about the EIF2Aug 09 11:45
iophk"So this was not just a failure to gain a particular wording, but actually a retrograde move by the European Commission, presumably as the result of lobbying."Aug 09 11:45
iophkthe clause about needing to be royalty-free has been changed to RANDAug 09 11:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] We need the sex pistols to solve the UK riots. #justsayin. Sex Pistols - Anarchy in the UK Studio VersionAug 09 11:46
schestowitz" (via Techrights):" :-)Aug 09 11:48
schestowitzVia a Romanian friend who told me about itAug 09 11:49
DaemonFChttp://www.indystar.com/article/20110809/BUSINESS/108090346/State-joins-suit-against-college-firmAug 09 11:50
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DaemonFCschestowitz, all the student aide that's left seems to be eaten up by this kind of fraudAug 09 11:50
schestowitzyeahAug 09 11:51
schestowitzI bet you're glad you didn't spend money on collegesAug 09 11:52
schestowitzexcept through state taxAug 09 11:52
DaemonFChttp://www.nationaljournal.com/congress/after-two-centuries-house-page-program-to-end-20110808Aug 09 11:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: After Two Centuries, House Page Program to End - Ben Terris - NationalJournal.com .::. Size~: 47.19 KBAug 09 11:53
DaemonFCless child molestation scandals by the people writing the laws on child molestation Aug 09 11:53
DaemonFCit costs them $5 million a year to have unpaid teenagers run errands?Aug 09 11:55
DaemonFCoh no, that would cover an entire 10 minutes of the Iraq occupation!Aug 09 11:56
DaemonFCschestowitz, http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2011-08-08-gun-holsters-man-shoots-penis_n.htm?csp=34newsAug 09 11:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Police urge holster use after man shoots his own penis - USATODAY.com .::. Size~: 36.83 KBAug 09 11:59
DaemonFC:)Aug 09 11:59
DaemonFCat least he might not reproduce nowAug 09 11:59
schestowitzHeheAug 09 11:59
schestowitzPoetic justiceAug 09 11:59
DaemonFCI'll just tuck this gun down my pants, loaded, with the safety offAug 09 12:00
DaemonFCI'm hardcore!Aug 09 12:01
DaemonFC:PAug 09 12:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] HGE comes to Mac and #Linux (guest post from Ryan Gordon) http://ur1.ca/4vq24 "We've also seen great improvements, optimizations"Aug 09 12:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: HGE comes to Mac and Linux (guest post from Ryan Gordon) - Wolfire Games Blog .::. Size~: 22.4 KBAug 09 12:01
DaemonFCRyan Gordon is kind of an assholeAug 09 12:02
DaemonFCthe way he talks about how good nvidia and amd's blobs are, you know he must never have actually used themAug 09 12:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Ignore the speculation, Linux is far from dead http://ur1.ca/4vq2r but who ever said it was "dead"? Another odd headline from them...Aug 09 12:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ignore the speculation, Linux is far from dead | News | TechRadar UK .::. Size~: 89.03 KBAug 09 12:06
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schestowitzargh coreAug 09 12:08
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/80578723Aug 09 12:09
TechrightsBot-tr@Mekeor Melire (mekeor)'s status on Tuesday, 09-Aug-11 11:02:57 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz cool :D heh, thanks for the link! =]Aug 09 12:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Underwater nuclear plants, made in France. What could possibly go wrong? http://nextbigfuture.com/2011/01/flexblue-unde... http://b1t.it/u0gAug 09 12:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #KDE donations http://ur1.ca/4vq6eAug 09 12:12
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schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/80578901Aug 09 12:13
TechrightsBot-tr@Srinivas V (srini)'s status on Tuesday, 09-Aug-11 11:08:23 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz completely agree with the blog. Mark, sorry mac replied only once to my comments in the harshest way. That aint deter me awayAug 09 12:13
schestowitzWhy do they talk to me like I'm MarkSAug 09 12:13
schestowitzOdd...Aug 09 12:13
schestowitzMaybe new to twitterAug 09 12:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Who pays th erating companies for their work wrt rating countries? Let me guess. It's NOT the countries themselves.... http://b1t.it/u0mAug 09 12:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Jan Wildeboer - Google+ .::. Size~: 38.5 KBAug 09 12:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] BREAKING NEWS: Libya recognizes UK rioters as official government of the UK (satire)Aug 09 12:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Ouch http://ur1.ca/4vq9uAug 09 12:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] The fear of unemployment.Aug 09 12:24
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Mathias Hasselmann -      Taschenorakel.de .::. Size~: 36.05 KBAug 09 12:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Yes, a Core i3 for paper pushers!Aug 09 12:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] BREAKING NEWS: Iran urges UK to restrain police http://t.co/mhpMfRG (not satire)Aug 09 12:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Apart from that, it's an ok would fit in an envelope lappie.Aug 09 12:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] King of KDistros (Poll Results) http://ur1.ca/4vqce "how the King of KDE distros went." !kdeAug 09 12:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Google Groups stopped indexing #Usenet newsgroups a week ago, and barely anyone noticed - http://tnw.co/r5LBhz not goodAug 09 12:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Gentoo Linux releases 11.2 LiveDVD http://ur1.ca/4vqcq #gnu #linuxAug 09 12:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Linux Experience: King of KDistros (Poll Results) .::. Size~: 79.87 KBAug 09 12:46
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Gentoo Linux -- Gentoo Linux releases 11.2 LiveDVD .::. Size~: 10.68 KBAug 09 12:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] #insightful https://plus.google.com/111129703735119825297/posts/X5QwX8BwvnzAug 09 12:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] The armed forces are paid for 24 hours a day service. This must break the national minimum wage or is there an exemption?Aug 09 12:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Jonas Voss - Google+ .::. Size~: 38.56 KBAug 09 12:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @ZDNet Black Hat: 'OSX networks are significantly more vulnerable' > http://zd.net/pD58Uh cc @nj3ma @startupKenya @ramanusAsango @kelzOKOAug 09 12:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Police use #Flickr to identify London riot suspects - http://tnw.co/nC7Q4p I wonder what response they'll get #londonriotsAug 09 12:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I am over my bacon craving.Aug 09 12:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Definitely Not Made in China. http://imgur.com/r/funny/AcJG3Aug 09 13:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @glynmoody Police use #Flickr to identify London riot suspects - http://tnw.co/nC7Q4p I wonder what response they'll get #londonriotsAug 09 13:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Definitely Not Made in China. - Imgur .::. Size~: 9.32 KBAug 09 13:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Police use Flickr to identify London riot suspects - TNW UK .::. Size~: 79.16 KBAug 09 13:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @jargon @coyo good morning,man. welcome to the revolutionAug 09 13:06
schestowitzLOL http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sP4NMoJcFd4Aug 09 13:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Parliament is being recalled for a day due to riots. Why? We know what they will all say. #beseentobedoingsomethingAug 09 13:09
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/80579349  https://identi.ca/notice/80579245Aug 09 13:14
TechrightsBot-tr@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Tuesday, 09-Aug-11 11:20:52 UTC - Identi.ca: Ouch http://ur1.ca/4vq9uAug 09 13:14
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/80579284Aug 09 13:14
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: Mathias Hasselmann -      Taschenorakel.de .::. Size~: 36.05 KBAug 09 13:14
TechrightsBot-tr@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Tuesday, 09-Aug-11 11:18:37 UTC - Identi.ca: The Plans For !KDE Frameworks 5.0 Were Just Announced http://ur1.ca/4v6lo KDE 5.0 roadmap announced http://ur1.ca/4vq8n excellent!Aug 09 13:14
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: [Phoronix] The Plans For KDE Frameworks 5.0 Were Just Announced .::. Size~: 17.28 KBAug 09 13:14
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: KDE 5.0 roadmap announced | ITworld .::. Size~: 107.79 KBAug 09 13:14
TechrightsBot-tr@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Tuesday, 09-Aug-11 11:19:47 UTC - Identi.ca: People behind Debian: Margarita Manterola, Debian Women member http://ur1.ca/4vq93 !debian #gnu #linux #bsdAug 09 13:14
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schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/80579284Aug 09 13:14
TechrightsBot-tr@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Tuesday, 09-Aug-11 11:19:47 UTC - Identi.ca: People behind Debian: Margarita Manterola, Debian Women member http://ur1.ca/4vq93 !debian #gnu #linux #bsdAug 09 13:14
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: People behind Debian: Margarita Manterola, Debian Women member .::. Size~: 66.56 KBAug 09 13:14
schestowitzNow there will be some misogynistic debian devs causing trouble?Aug 09 13:15
MinceRis it that or anti-free software trolls calling them so?Aug 09 13:16
schestowitzNo, some are genuinely sexistAug 09 13:20
schestowitzAnd one of the notable dev for that is also a mono boosterAug 09 13:20
schestowitzhe was in this IRC channel a few times (well #botcottnovell ) to confront usAug 09 13:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] The shops that are still open in Britain report a brisk trade in balaclavas.Aug 09 13:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @ddevine: WHACKY ARM WAVING INFLATABLE TUBEMAN!Aug 09 13:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 9/8/2011: Linux 3.0.1, KDE 5.0 Roadmap http://ur1.ca/4vqp2 !techrightsAug 09 13:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Links 9/8/2011: Linux 3.0.1, KDE 5.0 Roadmap http://ur1.ca/4vqp2 #techrightsAug 09 13:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] http://londonriotsmap.appspot.com/ via +Laura CzajkowskiAug 09 13:21
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: London Riots Map .::. Size~: 3.46 KBAug 09 13:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] 30-Year Old Publishing Software Maker Quark Acquired By Private Equity Firm - http://tcrn.ch/pcx466 you mean, #Quark is still around?Aug 09 13:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] London in the blitz: How crime flourished under cover of the blackout - http://bit.ly/qiKAkS fascinating historical context (v @monkchips)Aug 09 13:22
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 30-Year Old Publishing Software Maker Quark Acquired By Private Equity Firm | TechCrunch .::. Size~: 53.2 KBAug 09 13:22
TechrightsBot-trTitle: London in the blitz: How crime flourished under cover of the blackout | Society | The Observer .::. Size~: 189.45 KBAug 09 13:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Montevideo: proud of our data - http://bit.ly/piInZ7 great to see #opendata in #uruguayAug 09 13:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] a picture that says it all, really - http://bit.ly/oq1wT6 (v @DavidAllenGreen) #londonriots #teaAug 09 13:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 00:38 9/8/2011: Camden Town, London | Flickr - Photo Sharing! .::. Size~: 198.57 KBAug 09 13:29
MinceRicAug 09 13:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] For the criminal thuggery to stay away after the clean-up we need change - Responding to the Bling Riots: http://wmk.me/qf2vtJ #londonriotsAug 09 13:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @glynmoody a picture that says it all, really - http://bit.ly/oq1wT6 (v @DavidAllenGreen) #londonriots #teaAug 09 13:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @glynmoody London in the blitz: How crime flourished under cover of the blackout - http://bit.ly/qiKAkS fascinating historical contextAug 09 13:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: ☆ Responding to the Bling Riots « Wild Webmink .::. Size~: 66.7 KBAug 09 13:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 00:38 9/8/2011: Camden Town, London | Flickr - Photo Sharing! .::. Size~: 214.41 KBAug 09 13:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: London in the blitz: How crime flourished under cover of the blackout | Society | The Observer .::. Size~: 189.72 KBAug 09 13:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @satipera Parliament is being recalled for a day due to riots. Why? We know what they will all say. #beseentobedoingsomethingAug 09 13:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @satipera The shops that are still open in Britain report a brisk trade in balaclavas.Aug 09 13:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @webmink For the criminal thuggery to stay away after the clean-up we need change - Responding to the Bling Riots: http://wmk.me/qf2vtJAug 09 13:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: ☆ Responding to the Bling Riots « Wild Webmink .::. Size~: 66.25 KBAug 09 13:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Almost exactly a year before the city plays host to the Olympic Games, the conflagration has raised dark fears..." http://ur1.ca/4vqreAug 09 13:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @satipera The armed forces are paid for 24 hours a day service. This must break the national minimum wage or is there an exemption?Aug 09 13:37
TechrightsBot-trTitle: London police overwhelmed in explosion of violence by futureless youth - The Globe and Mail .::. Size~: 100.34 KBAug 09 13:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Google Groups stopped indexing Usenet newsgroups a week ago, and barely anyone noticed http://ur1.ca/4vqrn other sites index thoseAug 09 13:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @wikileaks2 BREAKING NEWS: Libya recognizes UK rioters as official government of the UK (satire)Aug 09 13:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @jwildeboer http://ur1.ca/4vo63 via +Laura CzajkowskiAug 09 13:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @jwildeboer Are rating companies taking over the role of the governments? Are they becoming the global overlords? I do hope not.Aug 09 13:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: London Riots Map .::. Size~: 3.46 KBAug 09 13:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @satipera British Chamber of Commerce when asked about rioting "We have heard there is money in it and we are lobbying for the contract"Aug 09 13:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] New #poll: #opensource implantable medical devices | http://red.ht/rjWknpAug 09 13:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @greve ♻ @karsten "America's [patent] system is a travesty which threatens the wealth and welfare of the whole world", says Economist blogAug 09 13:42
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/ash_r_77/status/100909082621378560Aug 09 13:43
TechrightsBot-tr@ash_r_77: @schestowitz @wikileaks2  Amazing perception. Not that they wil have the time to but what a thought. Lets get USA to invade us now.Aug 09 13:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Too much bad news today. Out to the city now, will return to just Linux news in the afternoon/evening...Aug 09 13:44
ender_3306:49 < schestowitz> I bet you're glad you didn't spend money on collegesAug 09 13:45
ender_3306:50 < schestowitz> except through state taxAug 09 13:45
ender_33I bet the rest of the USA is happy they made DaemonFC smarterAug 09 13:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Samba 3.6.0 released http://lwn.net/Articles/454422/rssAug 09 13:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Bank of America board in crisis room (photo) http://t.co/8o8rk0tAug 09 13:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: exiledsurfer's Politricks | Julian Assange / WikiLeaks  | dr_strangeleak .::. Size~: 4.31 KBAug 09 13:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The #surveillance state has failed - http://bit.ly/nQSNo5 well said; we need more police, not less privacy #londonriotsAug 09 14:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The surveillance state has failed | Big Brother Watch .::. Size~: 62.01 KBAug 09 14:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] RT @marxistvegan Cyberunions Talk Show Episode 12 Solidarity Forstarters just released! http://wp.me/p1yNTT-ao !cyberunions http://b1t.i ...Aug 09 14:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks news update http://t.co/1cYF2M2Aug 09 14:13
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 2011-08-08 WikiLeaks Notes: Latest News on #Cablegate Releases & #WikiLeaks | WL Central .::. Size~: 22.21 KBAug 09 14:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] Nice lunch with !FSFE, now doing some work in !FSFE & !KDE office. #strayingfrom #ds2011Aug 09 14:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Out With The Old... In With The Older At The RIAA - http://bit.ly/oFpBhv bad news: new CEO even worse; good news, RIAA will implode fasterAug 09 14:24
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Out With The Old... In With The Older At The RIAA | Techdirt .::. Size~: 33.94 KBAug 09 14:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Adrian Lamo, Bradley Manning & the Hacker's Wanted Documentary http://t.co/fCa0I6UAug 09 14:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Chirpstory - Adrian Lamo, Bradley Manning & the 'Hackers Wanted' Documentary .::. Size~: 165.48 KBAug 09 14:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Brazil moves to prevent 'massacre' of Amazon tribe by drug traffickers - http://bit.ly/qqbu0y some have more serious problems than riotsAug 09 14:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] People in UK, esp London on googleplus - follow https://plus.google.com/103242514402551237172/posts - he tries to coord... http://b1t.it/u1sAug 09 14:32
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Brazil moves to prevent 'massacre' of Amazon tribe by drug traffickers | World news | The Guardian .::. Size~: 91.02 KBAug 09 14:32
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ender_3305:16 <@MinceR> schestowitz: childfuckersAug 09 14:34
ender_3305:16 <@MinceR> (roman catholics)Aug 09 14:34
ender_33they aren't exclusive to religion as we discovered yesterdayAug 09 14:35
ender_33or is fsf religion?Aug 09 14:35
ender_33who knowsAug 09 14:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] #Opendata, apps and the #FDA, by @MsMatchGirl | http://red.ht/rmyntaAug 09 14:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] 200,000 BitTorrent Users Sued In The United States http://ur1.ca/4vr8cAug 09 14:39
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: 200,000 BitTorrent Users Sued In The United States | TorrentFreak .::. Size~: 35.59 KBAug 09 14:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] IBM, NCSA abandon petascale supercomputer project (Computerworld): http://bit.ly/qmVTbuAug 09 14:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: IBM, NCSA abandon petascale supercomputer project - Computerworld .::. Size~: 129.91 KBAug 09 14:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Infinispan 5.0 offers more than 45 new features (H): http://bit.ly/nc4IVUAug 09 14:44
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Infinispan 5.0 offers more than 45 new features - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 40.23 KBAug 09 14:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] weather was horrible in !Beijing. Took me more than 3 hours to get home. sanhuan was one ring of traffic jam.Aug 09 14:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Microsoft Demonstrates Practical Homomorphic Computing (computing encrypted data) (Tech Review): http://bit.ly/nYGBjG (via @slashdot)Aug 09 14:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: A Cloud that Can't Leak - Technology Review .::. Size~: 46.74 KBAug 09 14:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] The #PowerofOpen featured in Le Monde... http://bit.ly/nGpJESAug 09 15:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] #nuffsaid http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9e/Keep-calm-and-carry-on.jpgAug 09 15:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Sad Guys on Trading Floors: http://bit.ly/p7j7SiAug 09 15:07
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Coup de sifflet - LeMonde.fr .::. Size~: 117.53 KBAug 09 15:07
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*amarsh04 just completed his .au census form online using iceweasel on Debian/AMD64Aug 09 15:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] UK #riots clean-up running on #ushahidi - http://bit.ly/oK3tii "Connecting those who need help after riots with those offering assistance"Aug 09 15:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle: UK riots clean-up .::. Size~: 43.4 KBAug 09 15:29
*ender_33 completed his fascist .ca cencus form offline upside down and used math equations for numbers on Tree/PaperAug 09 15:37
ender_33barcodes were also cut offAug 09 15:39
ender_33comments section "Fuck you Lockheed Martin & Freemasonry"Aug 09 15:39
MinceR:)Aug 09 15:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] "police and the CPS are considering using "virtual courts" to deal with high numbers of offenders" - http://bit.ly/qw0fUL huh? #londonriotsAug 09 15:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] An dem Gerücht das Dresdner Kripobeamte in London bei der Auswertung der Handydaten aushelfen ist nichts dran. Echt.Aug 09 15:42
TechrightsBot-trTitle: London riots and UK unrest: day four live coverage | UK news | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 267.78 KBAug 09 15:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] CA adds new mainframe Linux management capabilitiesAug 09 15:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Strange. for some reason #brdcst or sthj else adds device.com to links from googleplus? @macno? Help?Aug 09 15:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] No Nokia N9 for America or UK - http://bit.ly/nYL3Ny #nokia doing its utmost to ensure #meego does not succeedAug 09 15:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Morning, folks, hows things today?Aug 09 16:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] What Harry Potter can teach us about #patents and property rights - http://bit.ly/o7aLIm not property, monopoly = bully (v @fosspatents)Aug 09 16:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] AchieveCity to offer free, open source government platforms to municipalities (from @lukefretwell & friends @govfresh) http://red.ht/qKxtBJAug 09 16:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] London rioters are the pampered children of the welfare state - http://bit.ly/qoxfWP so we need *more deprivation* (v @ruv) #londonriotsAug 09 16:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Commentator - London rioters are the pampered children of the welfare state .::. Size~: 31.25 KBAug 09 16:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Spanish priests join opposition to costly papal visit http://is.gd/0HCm1p - why doesn't the church pay for the Pope's visit inc security?Aug 09 16:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Spanish priests join opposition to costly papal visit | World news | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 95.22 KBAug 09 16:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] To all my british friends out there: Take care, and don't go out your houses. Things are hairy...Aug 09 16:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Met should disclose facts behind Mark Duggan's death http://is.gd/81yuurAug 09 16:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] London rioters are the pampered children of the welfare state - http://bit.ly/qoxfWP so we need *more deprivation* (v @ruv) #londonriotsAug 09 16:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Indonesian Government To Block Sharing Sites, But Music Biz Must Cut Prices - http://bit.ly/ot4jU5 by repurposing porn filtersAug 09 16:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Met should disclose facts behind Mark Duggan's death | Jules Carey | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 245.66 KBAug 09 16:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Commentator - London rioters are the pampered children of the welfare state .::. Size~: 31.81 KBAug 09 16:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] guessing #Murdoch is rubbing is hands with glee at the #LondonRiots as it takes all of the Met and public attention away from #NIAug 09 16:42
ender_33what would be considered immoral as an advocate of the fsfAug 09 16:45
ender_33proprietary software, non-free standards, patents, trademarks, what elseAug 09 16:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] it's about time #Police officers who deliberately lie or deceive in their accounts of events get verbal / written warnings for each instanceAug 09 16:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] remembering inaccurately is understandable but conspiring with colleagues to create a fictional story after the fact is notAug 09 16:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] ♻ @x11r5: If you had a truly frightening place called food depot. 3 Aisles devoted to dry beans, baby!Aug 09 16:46
schestowitz[13:46] <ender_33> I bet the rest of the USA is happy they made DaemonFC smarterAug 09 16:50
schestowitz:-)Aug 09 16:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] BlackBerry Messenger archives open for inspection - http://bit.ly/r78I2i useful background; quite big, if true #bbm #londonriotsAug 09 16:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] NEWS: Our 2011 Linux Scholarship winners: http://t.co/HxrOSwH Slideshow: http://t.co/E94TlTf #linux20th #futureoflinuxAug 09 16:51
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ender_33If I was in the US, I'd ask for a refund on my tax returnAug 09 16:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] one more reason, btw, that "KDE is the community, not the software" is important: we can take on these kinds of changes more easily.Aug 09 16:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] MT @DomainIncite @AndyPPUK "Amazon.co.uk's top sports & leisure sellers include police batons, baseball bats" http://x.co/YqEc >>yikesAug 09 16:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Release: US diplomatic strategy for Syria http://t.co/yPu8OcgAug 09 16:57
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Amazon.co.uk Movers and Shakers: The biggest gainers in Sports & Leisure sales rank over the past 24 hours .::. Size~: 118.9 KBAug 09 16:58
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/77967488#notice-80582934Aug 09 17:02
ender_33schestowitz - in relation to moral and immoral, what do you think is immoral in foss advocacy?Aug 09 17:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Conversation - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 11.85 KBAug 09 17:02
schestowitzgoogle does not support khtmlAug 09 17:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] Sad to have so far not heard from @npramericanlife regarding free-ing the show from patents (http://ur1.ca/4u3ce). Did you write yet? !fsfAug 09 17:02
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schestowitzLOLAug 09 17:04
schestowitz"Input Not Support"Aug 09 17:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] “Recreational looting” in perspective - http://bit.ly/o66qlg lots of calm, thoughtful here... #londonriotsAug 09 17:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Memex 1.1  » Blog Archive   » “Recreational looting” in perspective .::. Size~: 21.14 KBAug 09 17:04
schestowitzMy monitor says when it gets bad signalAug 09 17:04
schestowitzBad Enrish [sin] in hardwareAug 09 17:04
ender_33I guess I'll have to use my best guess based on my experience reading foss advocacy onlineAug 09 17:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Reminder: We need YOU to keep us strong. Over 90% of our funding has been destroyed by the banking blockade http://t.co/keJ07BGAug 09 17:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] 6 Alternatives to Google Earth - Linux Links http://ping.fm/knR5FAug 09 17:07
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ender_33I'll be working on a survey do to some fact finding... other people might answerAug 09 17:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] Thank GNU, @gmaxwell!Aug 09 17:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] [PHOTOS] Images from the Romanian Free Software Camp, #FLOSSCamp 2011 http://prolinux.ro/flosscamp-2011/ #photo #romania #gnu #linux #fossAug 09 17:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: FLOSSCamp 2011 | Asociația ProLinux .::. Size~: 22.67 KBAug 09 17:11
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/80582962Aug 09 17:12
TechrightsBot-tr@agentsmith's status on Tuesday, 09-Aug-11 12:42:08 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz I thought Happy Feet and Surf's Up were two good penguin films...Aug 09 17:12
ender_33identica is slow over i2p todayAug 09 17:14
DrumScumughAug 09 17:16
*DrumScum is now known as Tom_BAug 09 17:16
Tom_BsoAug 09 17:16
Tom_Bthat's betterAug 09 17:16
Tom_Boff to the gentoo channel nowAug 09 17:16
Tom_Bhaving an issue with my wireless driver when using the 3.0 kernel...Aug 09 17:16
Tom_Bieee80211 phy0: brcmsmac: Failed to find firmware usually in /lib/firmware/brcmAug 09 17:17
Tom_Bbut it's fscking *there*Aug 09 17:17
Tom_BwtfAug 09 17:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] New blog post: Apple stops Samsung from offering Galaxy Tab 10.1 in Europe http://ur1.ca/4vt08Aug 09 17:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Reminder: We need YOU to keep us strong. Over 90% of our funding has been destroyed by US banks, illegally http://t.co/keJ07BGAug 09 17:17
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Tom_Bis the 3.0 kernel /blind/ or what?Aug 09 17:18
schestowitzhow so I tell a widescreen to extend horizontally usually? What's the option called?Aug 09 17:19
schestowitzThis screen has the blue E logo in the menuAug 09 17:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] On the other hand, @npramericanlife, googling the show name now turns up our post at http://ur1.ca/4u3ce on the 1st page of results !playoggAug 09 17:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Helping out This American Life—with an Ogg copy of the show — Free Software Foundation — working together for free software .::. Size~: 26.88 KBAug 09 17:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Somali Pirates, Fish & Cablegate http://t.co/BuIT2ABAug 09 17:22
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 2011-08-07 Somali pirates, fish and cablegate | WL Central .::. Size~: 47.37 KBAug 09 17:22
Tom_Bok, no wlan wizards in the gentoo channel atm...Aug 09 17:26
Tom_B:-(Aug 09 17:27
Tom_Bguess i'll have to stick with 2.6.39 for now :-pAug 09 17:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] http://www.faz.net/artikel/C30350/streit-mit-samsung-apple-untersagt-galaxy-tab-vertrieb-30482345.html - german court i... http://b1t.it/u3GAug 09 17:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Streit mit Samsung: Apple untersagt Galaxy-Tab-Vertrieb - Hintergründe - Wirtschaft - FAZ.NET .::. Size~: 140.75 KBAug 09 17:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Quark sold to merger and acquisition company (MacWorld): http://macw.us/rqVufAAug 09 17:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Quark sold to merger and acquisition company | Publishing | Creative Notes | Macworld .::. Size~: 71.99 KBAug 09 17:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joshuagay/@joshuagay] RT @johnsu01 On the other hand, @npramericanlife, googling the show name now turns up our post at http://ur1.ca/4u3ce on the 1st page of ...Aug 09 17:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] +Udo Vetter Landgericht Düsseldorf soll Einstweilige an Apple gegeben haben und damit Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 Vertrieb... http://b1t.it/u3JAug 09 17:32
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Helping out This American Life—with an Ogg copy of the show — Free Software Foundation — working together for free software .::. Size~: 26.88 KBAug 09 17:32
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Jan Wildeboer - Google+ .::. Size~: 35.81 KBAug 09 17:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] http://coffee.jezra.net/coffee/20110809 #sip_and_clickAug 09 17:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: coffee.jezra: a coffee a day photo project | 2011-08-09 .::. Size~: 3.81 KBAug 09 17:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] RT @glynmoody No Nokia N9 for America or UK - http://bit.ly/nYL3Ny #nokia doing its utmost to ensure #meego does not succeedAug 09 17:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: No Nokia N9 for America or UK – Boing Boing .::. Size~: 20.52 KBAug 09 17:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Community approves !openSUSE [rolling release] strategy - The H http://ping.fm/69XplAug 09 17:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Developers and Fans Benefit From Humble Indie Bundle Pay-What-You-Want Model | (Electronic Frontier Foundation) http://bit.ly/qvUg9HAug 09 17:37
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Community approves openSUSE strategy - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 38.07 KBAug 09 17:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Developers and Fans Benefit From Humble Indie Bundle Pay-What-You-Want Model | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 25.31 KBAug 09 17:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Arora... bummer, weak and bugged. Rekonq looks promising, but with the same problems that plague Arora. Will try Midori.Aug 09 17:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !Samba 3.6.0 released - The H http://ping.fm/dUu3DAug 09 17:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Sea Monkey still the bestAug 09 17:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] RT @silner Community approves !openSUSE [rolling release] strategy - The H http://ping.fm/69XplAug 09 17:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Samba 3.6.0 released - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 39.14 KBAug 09 17:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Community approves openSUSE strategy - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 38.07 KBAug 09 17:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Samba 3.6.0 released - http://bit.ly/oFh0eO "highlight of the Samba 3.6 features is support for SMB2, the protocol used by Vista" vista???Aug 09 17:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I missed this one yesterday: #PS3 #Jailbreak Raid in South Africa By crystal steltenpohl http://goo.gl/aKWDJAug 09 17:44
TechrightsBot-trTitle: PS3 Jailbreak Raid in South Africa | Gaming Bus .::. Size~: 34.88 KBAug 09 17:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Verizon moves to kill 'illegal' tethering on hacked phones !Android Community • by Shane McGlaun http://goo.gl/DPAVcAug 09 17:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I dispute the word illegal there. They really mean extra-contractual, don't they?Aug 09 17:47
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Verizon moves to kill illegal tethering on hacked phones | Android Community .::. Size~: 58.98 KBAug 09 17:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] The Complaints Department Is That Way - Please Follow The Coyote Over the Cliff...: http://wayneborean.ca/?p=60 #MyWANA #amwritingAug 09 17:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] gosh, don't the languid days of #phonehacking seem so far away now? how quickly we forget... #londonriotsAug 09 17:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] RT @glynmoody: #Samba 3.6.0 released - http://bit.ly/oFh0eO "highlight of the Samba 3.6 is support for SMB2, the protocol used by Vista"Aug 09 17:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Complaints Deparment Is That Way | :  - Please Follow The Coyote Over the Cliff...Wayne Borean – About Writing .::. Size~: 26.62 KBAug 09 17:49
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ender_33what about kernel-firmwareAug 09 17:52
Tom_Bcheck ;-)Aug 09 17:52
ender_33didnt know this was #gentooAug 09 17:52
Tom_Bswitching back and forth ;-)Aug 09 17:53
Tom_Bthey're discussing task bars there right nowAug 09 17:53
Tom_B:-pAug 09 17:53
ender_33http://packages.gentoo.org/package/sys-kernel/linux-firmwareAug 09 17:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Gentoo Packages /package/sys-kernel/linux-firmware .::. Size~: 16.91 KBAug 09 17:54
iophkhttp://lxer.com/module/newswire/view/38971/index.htmlAug 09 17:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle: LXer: Following Bill Gates' Linux Attack Money .::. Size~: 51.27 KBAug 09 17:54
ender_33what is itAug 09 17:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Does anyone know how to to find out what !opensource software that charities need? cc @rnib http://goo.gl/5u06jAug 09 17:57
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Open Source for charities? : opensource .::. Size~: 42.76 KBAug 09 17:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RD @glynmoody gosh, don't the languid days of #phonehacking seem so far away now? how quickly we forget... #londonriotsAug 09 17:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] in honor of the looters in England, I've decided to punch my neighbor in the face because I dislike someone in an adjacent townAug 09 17:59
ender_33http://lxer.com/module/newswire/ext_link.php?rid=154431Aug 09 18:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] Ryan Gordon Criticizes Open-Source Drivers Again .::. Size~: 21.28 KBAug 09 18:01
ender_33LOLAug 09 18:01
ender_33Nice GordonAug 09 18:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Is anyone else surprised to see a Live DVD from !Gentoo ?Aug 09 18:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Are your search engine queries being hijacked? http://tinyurl.com/3b94f7s #security #internet #webAug 09 18:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @silner Is anyone else surprised to see a Live DVD from !Gentoo ?Aug 09 18:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @jabz 10-year-old girl hacks smartphone games at !DefCon 19 - http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-501465_162-20090085-501465.html #kids !hack ...Aug 09 18:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Are your search engine queries being hijacked? | ZDNet .::. Size~: 120.56 KBAug 09 18:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 10-year-old girl hacker targets smartphone games at DefCon 19 - Tech Talk - CBS News .::. Size~: 89.18 KBAug 09 18:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @bobduffy: If you attend the Intel Appup MeetUp at #SIGGRAPH today let me & @Intel_Rhonda know http://intel.ly/rrcG4UAug 09 18:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @bobduffy: Chat with @intel_rhonda at #SIGGRAPH #intelsoftware booth 329 to get the inside scoop on Intel Ap... http://yfrog.com/ki7sgycjAug 09 18:07
TechrightsBot-trTitle: MeetUp with AppUp @ SIGGRAPH! | Intel AppUp(SM) developer program .::. Size~: 62.82 KBAug 09 18:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: yfrog Photo : http://yfrog.com/ki7sgycj Shared by intel_rhonda .::. Size~: 33.31 KBAug 09 18:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] O hackeriţă în vârstă de 10 ani panichează industria de #jocuri http://tinyurl.com/3umokcu #security #games #romania #ios #androidAug 09 18:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: O hackeriţă în vârstă de 10 ani panichează industria de jocuri | Jurnalul National | Jurnalul National .::. Size~: 127.66 KBAug 09 18:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @glynmoody #Samba 3.6.0 released - http://bit.ly/oFh0eO "highlight of the Samba 3.6 features is support for SMB2, the protocol used b ...Aug 09 18:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Samba 3.6.0 released - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 39.14 KBAug 09 18:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Hi all. First coupla days on the job a bit of a drain.Aug 09 18:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Day 2. Thinking of quitting.Aug 09 18:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @samtuke Free Software voice recognition makes a major breakthrough: Simon Listens is deployed amongst elderly for TV control http:// ...Aug 09 18:19
ender_33oh its not youAug 09 18:19
ender_33nevermindAug 09 18:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @silner Community approves !openSUSE [rolling release] strategy - The H http://ping.fm/69XplAug 09 18:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @glynmoody No Nokia N9 for America or UK - http://bit.ly/nYL3Ny #nokia doing its utmost to ensure #meego does not succeedAug 09 18:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Community approves openSUSE strategy - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 38.07 KBAug 09 18:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: No Nokia N9 for America or UK – Boing Boing .::. Size~: 20.73 KBAug 09 18:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Hacking becomes latest weapon in #London #riots http://www.zdnet.com/blog/btl/hacking-becomes-latest-weapon-in-london-riots/54451Aug 09 18:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Hacking becomes latest weapon in London riots | ZDNet .::. Size~: 94.65 KBAug 09 18:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] Last Call: Progress Events http://ow.ly/1eapcsAug 09 18:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] XML Signature Best Practices Draft Published http://ow.ly/1eapcuAug 09 18:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] First Draft of HTML5: Edition for Web Authors Published http://ow.ly/1eapctAug 09 18:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: W3C News Archive: 2011        W3C .::. Size~: 157.92 KBAug 09 18:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] I told you, this is madness ... https://plus.google.com/106084858102515337812/posts/NEYozaB2nRsAug 09 18:37
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Stefano Maffulli - Google+ .::. Size~: 38.68 KBAug 09 18:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] FSFE UK calls for removal of Government's software advertisements http://tinyurl.com/3lf928j #uk #foss #fsfe #linux #gnu #egovt #governmentAug 09 18:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: FSFE UK calls for removal of Government's software advertisements .::. Size~: 7.13 KBAug 09 18:39
SnitSchestowitz: are you around?Aug 09 18:45
SnitTomB: curious what people could be discussing about task bars?Aug 09 18:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Tuesday's security updates http://lwn.net/Articles/454428/rssAug 09 18:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Yo! https://plus.google.com/118405686414652615782/posts/etnJEzR18nwAug 09 18:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Tuesday's security updates [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 8.14 KBAug 09 18:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Juha Lindfors - Google+ .::. Size~: 38.4 KBAug 09 18:46
SnitI thought I was the only one who focused on such details.  :)Aug 09 18:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] RT @notmart !kde tablet ui at !desktopsummit http://www.meegoexperts.com/2011/08/video-demo-contour-running-plasma-active-meego-desktop- ...Aug 09 18:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Video Demo of Contour on Plasma Active - MeeGo at DeskTop Summit .::. Size~: 55.52 KBAug 09 18:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @mwkn: Community: MeeGo Community Office meeting - IT and apps.forMeeGo.com http://t.co/4J0Rbq5 #maemoAug 09 18:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @Develop4AppUpEU: Looking forward to the AppLab tomorrow :D #ds2011 #AppUp Full house!Aug 09 18:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Only 5 hours left to pay-what-you-want for the fourth, record-breaking @humble Indie Bundle: https://eff.org/r.29kAug 09 18:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Humble Indie Bundle #3 (pay what you want for five awesome indie games) .::. Size~: 89.59 KBAug 09 18:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Apple Becomes the World’s Most Valuable Company - http://on.mash.to/rlylPQ hardly: just the one whose paper worth is greatestAug 09 19:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] http://ur1.ca/4vtiy best thing I've heard in foreverAug 09 19:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Congrats, Humble Bundle 3, for exceeding $2million in sales! Only 5 more hours to get 7 great DRM-free games! https://eff.org/rAug 09 19:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Only 5 hours left to pay-what-you-want for the fourth, record-breaking @humble Indie Bundle: https://eff.org/r.29kAug 09 19:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Humble Indie Bundle #3 (pay what you want for five awesome indie games) .::. Size~: 89.59 KBAug 09 19:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] agghhh.......hack...instincts...building...must...implement...music......but.....schoolwork D:Aug 09 19:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] RT @jwildeboer New blog post: Apple stops Samsung from offering Galaxy Tab 10.1 in Europe http://ur1.ca/4vt08Aug 09 19:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Apple stops Samsung from offering Galaxy Tab 10.1 in Europe | Jan Wildeboer .::. Size~: 13.49 KBAug 09 19:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] I guess noone is surprised that #FUDpatents ofcourse has mysterious sources that gave him the full documents in the App... http://b1t.it/u42Aug 09 19:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] Seems #Apple has overtaken #Microsoft as most severe threat to competition, innovation and digital liberty Congrats, I guess? #dubioushonorsAug 09 19:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] So eefectively Apple claims that everything that is rectangular, flat, has a display and an earphoneplug violates their... http://b1t.it/u48Aug 09 19:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Jan Wildeboer - Google+ .::. Size~: 54.52 KBAug 09 19:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Will London Riots Be The Turning Point For Facial Recognition As A Crime-Fighting Tool? - http://onforb.es/ols7xp good question #londonriotsAug 09 19:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Big Blow To Samsung: Apple Wins European Injunction Against Galaxy Tab - http://bit.ly/rsGz0N pathetic: apple shows its fear #androidAug 09 19:22
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Will The London Riots Be The Turning Point For Facial Recognition As A Crime-Fighting Tool? - Kashmir Hill - The Not-So Private Parts - Forbes .::. Size~: 117.71 KBAug 09 19:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Big Blow To Samsung: Apple Wins European Injunction Against Galaxy Tab                                                     |  paidContent:UK .::. Size~: 37.91 KBAug 09 19:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] UK riots: What turns people into looters? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-14463452 #uk #londonAug 09 19:24
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BBC News - UK riots: What turns people into looters? .::. Size~: 79.85 KBAug 09 19:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @ggreve Seems #Apple has overtaken #Microsoft as most severe threat to competition, innovation and digital liberty >>yup: historic momentAug 09 19:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Just been to #Manchester City Centre with 2 mates for 1.5 hours. The gangs are there, now setting buildings on fire, we fled the area.Aug 09 19:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Microsoft cancels pre-conference sessions at Build Windows 8 event (ZD Net): http://zd.net/oLTSbnAug 09 19:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] At Times of Unrest http://ur1.ca/4vtpk depressing stuff. I'll return to Linux news.Aug 09 19:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft cancels pre-conference sessions at Build Windows 8 event | ZDNet .::. Size~: 95.11 KBAug 09 19:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle: schestowitz.com  » Blog Archive   » At Times of Unrest .::. Size~: 34.46 KBAug 09 19:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Got my server set up in the living room, will build the imap test unit on it for remote debugging.Aug 09 19:31
schestowitzGangs of youth try to bring us down to their lavelAug 09 19:32
schestowitzBringing anarchy around here too tonightAug 09 19:32
schestowitzAnd making the right wing stronger by doing thisAug 09 19:32
MinceRi didn't know the right wing was about anarchyAug 09 19:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] I will keep my blog post at http://jan.wildeboer.net/2011/08/apple-stops-samsung-from-offering-galaxy-tab-10-1-in-europ... http://b1t.it/u5dAug 09 19:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Four #Microsoft executives get into a car… [Video] - http://tnw.co/qn6vdj kudos to MS for making this...whatever it meansAug 09 19:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Good Afternoon !IdentiverseAug 09 19:32
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Apple stops Samsung from offering Galaxy Tab 10.1 in Europe | Jan Wildeboer .::. Size~: 13.87 KBAug 09 19:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Jan Wildeboer - Google+ .::. Size~: 39.23 KBAug 09 19:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Four Microsoft executives get into a car… [Video] - Microsoft .::. Size~: 83.41 KBAug 09 19:33
schestowitz[17:59] [Notice] -TRIdentica to #techrights- [jezra/@jezra] in honor of the looters in England, I've decided to punch my neighbor in the face because I dislike someone in an adjacent townAug 09 19:33
schestowitzLOLAug 09 19:33
schestowitz[17:54] <iophk> http://lxer.com/module/newswire/view/38971/index.htmlAug 09 19:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: LXer: Following Bill Gates' Linux Attack Money .::. Size~: 51.27 KBAug 09 19:33
schestowitzOld newsAug 09 19:33
schestowitzAnd I think it's in TR somewhereAug 09 19:33
schestowitzpuppy linux (old version) is actually quite nice, has all the right tools and FirefoxAug 09 19:34
schestowitzjwmAug 09 19:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] I'm *very* happy my college friend doesn't need brain surgery, and is on the road to recovery. :DAug 09 19:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Not Evil? "#Google Admits Handing over European User Data to US Intelligence Agencies http://ur1.ca/4vtps /via @PaoloBrini !Privacy G+Aug 09 19:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Google Admits Handing over European User Data to US Intelligence Agencies - Softpedia .::. Size~: 51.58 KBAug 09 19:36
schestowitzhttp://www.sportsnewsnow.co.uk/sports/01146Aug 09 19:37
TechrightsBot-trTitle: UK Riots Continue, Football Disrupted Manchester Latest to Riot | Sports News Now .::. Size~: 24.68 KBAug 09 19:37
schestowitzhttp://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/news/9185710.Police_warn_against__unhelpful_speculation__over_riots/Aug 09 19:38
schestowitz" Ch Const Terry Sweeney said there was no specific intelligence to suggest there were going to be riots anywhere in Bolton or across Greater Manchester."Aug 09 19:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Police warn against 'unhelpful speculation' over riots (From The Bolton News) .::. Size~: 36.31 KBAug 09 19:38
schestowitzhttp://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/world/2011-08/09/c_131038806.htmAug 09 19:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle: British riots spread to Liverpool, Manchester .::. Size~: 18.29 KBAug 09 19:39
schestowitzhttp://www.thejournal.ie/disorder-spreads-to-manchester-wolverhampton-and-west-bromwich-197331-Aug2011/Aug 09 19:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Disorder spreads to Manchester, Wolverhampton and West Bromwich  · TheJournal .::. Size~: 91.74 KBAug 09 19:39
schestowitz9 minutes agoAug 09 19:39
schestowitzCan't go back to the city nowAug 09 19:40
schestowitza mile from myn houseAug 09 19:40
schestowitzmy mates were paked hereAug 09 19:40
schestowitzparkedAug 09 19:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Microsoft adds Hadoop support to SQL Server, data warehouse (InfoWorld): http://bit.ly/r0peHNAug 09 19:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft adds Hadoop support to SQL Server, data warehouse | Business Intelligence - InfoWorld .::. Size~: 100.27 KBAug 09 19:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Boy #Dell was wrong - http://bit.ly/pdbKGi about #apple...just a bitAug 09 19:42
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Open IT Strategies: Boy Dell was wrong .::. Size~: 83.6 KBAug 09 19:42
schestowitzhttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2023874/London-riots-Cameron-orders-16k-officers-regain-control-police-use-plastic-bullets.htmlAug 09 19:45
schestowitzFresh violence flares tonight in Birmingham, Wolverhampton, West Bromwich, Greater Manchester and SalfordAug 09 19:45
TechrightsBot-trTitle: London riots: Cameron orders 16k officers to regain control, police could use plastic bullets  | Mail Online .::. Size~: 135.43 KBAug 09 19:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk :)Aug 09 19:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] I will buy a Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 just to show how much I like Apple for defending their monopoly ^H market position.Aug 09 19:46
schestowitzhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-14463868Aug 09 19:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BBC News - Greater Manchester Police make call to maintain peace .::. Size~: 77.18 KBAug 09 19:46
schestowitzSObs smash the city, it's like Detroit thereAug 09 19:47
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/80583040Aug 09 19:47
TechrightsBot-tr@Luke Slater (reality)'s status on Tuesday, 09-Aug-11 12:44:07 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz @agentsmith webkit is substantially different, though derived from khtml. note you can change konqueror's renderer to webkitAug 09 19:47
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/80599569Aug 09 19:47
TechrightsBot-tr@Răzvan Sandu (rsandu)'s status on Tuesday, 09-Aug-11 18:30:48 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz But what is the REASON for it? What rioters demand? Who ARE they?Aug 09 19:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] New York Times Opens Up Its Software Lab (Wired): http://bit.ly/ne4qFnAug 09 19:47
TechrightsBot-trTitle: New York Times Opens Up Its Software Lab | Epicenter | Wired.com .::. Size~: 58.23 KBAug 09 19:47
schestowitzThat's the thing. It's not a protest. It's a bunch of vandals looking for fun.Aug 09 19:48
DrPizza^Aug 09 19:49
DrPizzathe rioters' demands are "free stolen TVs"Aug 09 19:50
DrPizzasome of these scumbagsAug 09 19:50
DrPizzatorching small businesses because "they're rich"Aug 09 19:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] Dear G-mail User: http://bit.ly/p4fDdT #scam #spam #scammer #spammerAug 09 19:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Dear G-mail User Scam | Wayne Borean .::. Size~: 21.27 KBAug 09 19:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] RT @glynmoody RT @ggreve Seems #Apple has overtaken #Microsoft as most severe threat to competition, innovation and digital liberty >>yu ...Aug 09 19:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Seems the official EU launch date of the Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 was planned for the 17th of August. Apple's timing... http://b1t.it/u5qAug 09 19:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Jan Wildeboer - Google+ .::. Size~: 40.75 KBAug 09 19:56
Tom_Bwhat's up with the media, calling some 10 year old girl cheating at a game 'hacking'...Aug 09 19:58
MinceRthey call everything 'hacking'Aug 09 19:59
Tom_Bhttp://thedroidguy.com/tag/cyfiAug 09 19:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle: CyFi »  Android Phones, Android Tablets, News, Tech, Gadgets And More, Thedroidguy .::. Size~: 14.67 KBAug 09 19:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Is Glark a Better Grep? (Linux.com) http://lwn.net/Articles/454448/rssAug 09 19:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Is Glark a Better Grep? (Linux.com) [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 7.8 KBAug 09 19:59
Tom_BstoopidAug 09 19:59
DrPizzaschestowitz: you know when I said before that carriers don't like tethering, this ist he kind of thing I'm talkin gabout http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/news/2011/08/verizon-blocking-tethering-customers-may-violate-fcc-rules.arsAug 09 20:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Verizon blocks unlicensed tethering, insists it can charge extra .::. Size~: 33.62 KBAug 09 20:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] More SUSE Managers and Developers Have Left the Company http://ur1.ca/4vtyr #suse #gnu #linux #novellAug 09 20:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: More SUSE Managers and Developers Have Left the Company | Techrights .::. Size~: 80.23 KBAug 09 20:01
schestowitzDrPizza: verizon is in the USAug 09 20:02
DrPizza... I'm well awareAug 09 20:02
schestowitzThe land where top lobbyists (disclosed) are comcast and a&tAug 09 20:02
schestowitzThe telecoms are very vicous thereAug 09 20:02
schestowitzThe public hates what they do also with capsAug 09 20:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] More SUSE Managers and Developers Have Left the Company http://ur1.ca/4vtyr #opensuse #odf #libreoffice #openoffice #tdfAug 09 20:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Humble Indie Bundle #3 Does More Than Two Million Dollars - http://bit.ly/p01D5Y yeah, "pay what you want" would never work... businssmodelsAug 09 20:02
schestowitzwe argued about policies in the UK the other weekAug 09 20:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: More SUSE Managers and Developers Have Left the Company | Techrights .::. Size~: 80.23 KBAug 09 20:03
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] Humble Indie Bundle #3 Does More Than Two Million Dollars .::. Size~: 17.47 KBAug 09 20:03
DrPizzayou might haveAug 09 20:03
DrPizzaI was speaking about telcos in generalAug 09 20:03
DrPizzaI provided evidence that, for example, UK telcos don't allow tethering with standard unlimited data plansAug 09 20:03
DrPizzaand how US telcos do the sameAug 09 20:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @glynmoody Humble Indie Bundle #3 Does More Than Two Million Dollars - http://bit.ly/p01D5Y yeah, "pay what you want" would never wor ...Aug 09 20:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] Humble Indie Bundle #3 Does More Than Two Million Dollars .::. Size~: 17.47 KBAug 09 20:06
ender_33Canadian providers want to do it tooAug 09 20:06
ender_33some charge extra, others provide it as a 'free feature'Aug 09 20:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Nokia's Drastic U.S. Steps: No N9, No Symbian, No Low-End Devices - http://bit.ly/oItFnM new plan to cut losses: stop selling everythingAug 09 20:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Really liking Puppy so far. It comes with all the right tools installed. #puppyllinuxAug 09 20:07
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Nokia’s Drastic U.S. Steps: No N9, No Symbian, No Low-End Devices                                                     |  paidContent .::. Size~: 45.82 KBAug 09 20:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Indian Judiciary embraces #Ubuntu - http://bit.ly/q2bhrd great win (v @gkjohn @LegallyIndia) #india #opensourceAug 09 20:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] [$] Mozilla Tilt: Web debugging in a whole new dimension http://lwn.net/Articles/454414/rssAug 09 20:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Indian Judiciary embraces Ubuntu « FOSS Everywhere .::. Size~: 50.43 KBAug 09 20:09
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schestowitzUBBAug 09 20:09
schestowitzIf you're against ut, you're anti-canadian :-)Aug 09 20:09
*MinceR is for Unreal TournamentAug 09 20:11
ender_33UBB is something elseAug 09 20:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] I wonder if the #riots are about gangs of locals wanting to outdo rivals in infamy / media attention, like football hooligans years backAug 09 20:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #China readies smartphone invasion of U.S. - http://bit.ly/qgPjUg here come the (1st wave of) cheap #androidsAug 09 20:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] first the various #London crews are making the news, they want to outdo those efforts by kicking off in their own or rival townsAug 09 20:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: China readies smartphone invasion of U.S. — Mobile Technology News .::. Size~: 76.14 KBAug 09 20:14
ender_33That has to do with how much you download on a normal internet connection.Aug 09 20:15
ender_33Firefox is pissing me off.Aug 09 20:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The #BRIC countries: a safe haven for #Android? - http://bit.ly/rbXLYj no, not *haven*, the *future*: long term, US and EU don't matter...Aug 09 20:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @schestowitz Really liking Puppy so far. It comes with all the right tools installed. #puppyllinuxAug 09 20:19
TechrightsBot-trTitle: FOSS Patents: The BRIC countries: a safe haven for Android? .::. Size~: 79.86 KBAug 09 20:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/movers-and-shakers/sports/ - +7000%! Amazon making quite some profits from the riots?Aug 09 20:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @eebrah @schestowitz Puppy is good if there's no dependency missing. If one installs something that's missing a lib, Puppy becomes a terrorAug 09 20:22
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Amazon.co.uk Movers and Shakers: The biggest gainers in Sports & Leisure sales rank over the past 24 hours .::. Size~: 118.91 KBAug 09 20:22
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/80601162Aug 09 20:23
TechrightsBot-tr@Johnny Null (johnnynull)'s status on Tuesday, 09-Aug-11 19:09:19 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz For a general-purpose LiveCD, I'd say there's none finer.Aug 09 20:23
schestowitzPuppy rulesAug 09 20:23
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/80601208Aug 09 20:23
TechrightsBot-tr@Răzvan Sandu (rsandu)'s status on Tuesday, 09-Aug-11 19:10:43 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz  :(  Yes, but any ethnic or social distinct group ?Aug 09 20:23
schestowitzYes, but we're not supposed to talk about it :/Aug 09 20:24
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/80601534Aug 09 20:24
TechrightsBot-tr@agentsmith's status on Tuesday, 09-Aug-11 19:19:24 UTC - Identi.ca: @eebrah @schestowitz Puppy is good if there's no dependency missing. If one installs something that's missing a lib, Puppy becomes a terrorAug 09 20:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 3D Puzzle Game 'Cubosphere' Beta Released for #Linux http://ur1.ca/4vu3eAug 09 20:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @jra Hurrah, Samba 3.6 shipped today with SMB2 support. Information here: http://tinyurl.com/3jufzj5Aug 09 20:24
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 3D Puzzle Game 'Cubosphere' Beta Released for Linux ~ Ubuntu Vibes .::. Size~: 119.98 KBAug 09 20:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @glynmoody #China readies smartphone invasion of U.S. - http://bit.ly/qgPjUg here come the (1st wave of) cheap #androidsAug 09 20:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Online #privacy is your own responsibility http://www.thenews.com.pk/TodaysPrintDetail.aspx?ID=61569&Cat=4&dt=8/8/2011 #security #internetAug 09 20:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: China readies smartphone invasion of U.S. — Mobile Technology News .::. Size~: 76.2 KBAug 09 20:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Online privacy is your own responsibility .::. Size~: 64.47 KBAug 09 20:26
ender_33prebuilt doesn't workAug 09 20:27
ender_33rhel doesn't package 5.xAug 09 20:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @bma Funny how the Met defends the use of kettling against mostly-non-violent student protests, but no sign of it being used against ...Aug 09 20:27
ender_33source needs way too many packages and are undocumented as requirementsAug 09 20:28
MinceRi don't like the name of "puppy"Aug 09 20:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] "apparent attempts at vigilantism" - http://bit.ly/nM3ZM5 I predict this will be an increasingly important factor in the future #londonriotsAug 09 20:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle: London riots and UK unrest: day four live coverage | UK news | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 337.4 KBAug 09 20:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] New DRM-Free, “Designed On Linux” Comic Book http://lunduke.com/?p=1814 #linuxAug 09 20:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Lunduke.com  » New DRM-Free, “Designed On Linux” Comic Book .::. Size~: 12.95 KBAug 09 20:34
ender_33its building!Aug 09 20:34
ender_33wootAug 09 20:34
Tom_Bfx5 on gentoo was pretty painlessAug 09 20:35
Tom_Bhad to unmask it, and that was thatAug 09 20:35
*schestowitz watches videos on Sky re the chaosAug 09 20:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] No Btrfs by default in !Fedora 16 http://ur1.ca/4vu6c "BTRFS WILL NOT BE THE DEFAULT FILE SYSTEM FOR F16"Aug 09 20:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Kernel Log: First release candidate for #Linux 3.1 http://ur1.ca/4vu7u going fast forwardAug 09 20:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: No Btrfs by default in Fedora 16 [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 26.44 KBAug 09 20:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Kernel Log: First release candidate for Linux 3.1 - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 44.71 KBAug 09 20:39
*iophk has quit (Quit: Leaving.)Aug 09 20:40
ender_33Tom_B - Gentoo makes compiling from source a hell of a lot easierAug 09 20:40
ender_33they do all the work and write a script so that it works for youAug 09 20:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Motorola Xoom gets Android 3.1 http://ur1.ca/4vu8t #linux #tabletAug 09 20:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Motorola Xoom gets Android 3.1 • reghardware .::. Size~: 19.63 KBAug 09 20:41
Tom_Byeah, of courseAug 09 20:41
Tom_Bthe nice thing is: they do it really fastAug 09 20:41
ender_33this was a much better idea than installing an old libstdc++.so.9 from Fedora core 9Aug 09 20:41
ender_33onto SL 6Aug 09 20:41
ender_33mozilla binariesAug 09 20:42
schestowitzhttp://i.imgur.com/Tic8N.gifAug 09 20:42
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MinceRSL has no compatibility packages?Aug 09 20:42
ender_33noAug 09 20:42
ender_33they recompile rhelAug 09 20:42
MinceRschestowitz: lolAug 09 20:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Riots [IMG] http://i.imgur.com/mmXzV.jpgAug 09 20:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Huge Group of Polar #Dinosaur Tracks Discovered in Australia - http://bit.ly/nxSlnb oooh, impressiveAug 09 20:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Meanwhile, in England http://i.imgur.com/EC8UI.gif back to Linux news...Aug 09 20:44
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Huge Group of Polar Dinosaur Tracks Discovered in Australia | Wired Science | Wired.com .::. Size~: 55.82 KBAug 09 20:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is reality with 132 dents!Aug 09 20:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Reviews: Here's looking at Linvo, kid http://ur1.ca/4vuai #gnu #linux #LinvoAug 09 20:47
TechrightsBot-trTitle: DistroWatch.com: Put the fun back into computing. Use Linux, BSD. .::. Size~: 103.16 KBAug 09 20:47
ender_33no libjpegturbo for meAug 09 20:48
ender_33yasm is too oldAug 09 20:48
ender_33at least the rest compilesAug 09 20:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] how many people will use the cover of riots to settle scores, knowing police will put it down to a crowd riot & not have resources to aidAug 09 20:51
ender_33back to python tutorialsAug 09 20:51
ender_33anon recommends python ;)Aug 09 20:51
ender_33they *almost* suggested c# but they said mono is broken and non-portableAug 09 20:52
MinceRalso c# is badly documented and badly designedAug 09 20:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] L’émergence des milices d’autodéfense en #France - http://bit.ly/pgO6n8 earlier thoughts on vigilantismeAug 09 20:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #LibreOffice vs. #OpenOffice .org: Showdown for Best Open Source Office Suite http://ur1.ca/4vuby #odfAug 09 20:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: » L’émergence des milices d’autodéfense en France - Le Comptoir de Sinhaladweepa .::. Size~: 30.01 KBAug 09 20:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: LibreOffice vs. OpenOffice.org: Showdown for Best Open Source Office Suite |  Wazi .::. Size~: 51.06 KBAug 09 20:53
ender_33their argument focused on the lack of proper support for .NET 2.0 that got ignored after 3.x and 4.xAug 09 20:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] A secret war in 120 countries: the extraordinary expansion of the Pentagon's secret army http://t.co/tWs5PMBAug 09 20:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Nick Turse: The Pentagon's New Power Elite .::. Size~: 113.85 KBAug 09 20:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] [Screenshots and Video] First Look at All New #Ubuntu Software Center Tech Preview http://ur1.ca/4vuc8 #canonical #gnu #linuxAug 09 20:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Screenshots and Video] First Look at All New Ubuntu Software Center Tech Preview ~ Ubuntu Vibes .::. Size~: 122.54 KBAug 09 20:56
ender_33technical vs ideologicalAug 09 20:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] A person made 378 dents in a day if that is not a record I would be surprised.Aug 09 20:57
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/80602647http://identi.ca/conversation/77992798#notice-80602647Aug 09 20:59
TechrightsBot-tr@Dayo (jargon)'s status on Tuesday, 09-Aug-11 19:46:46 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz that kind of looks like @reality with glasses onAug 09 20:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Conversation - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 12.12 KBAug 09 20:59
ender_33malformedAug 09 20:59
schestowitzyesAug 09 20:59
schestowitzhttp://i.imgur.com/Tic8N.gifhttp://identi.ca/conversation/77992798#notice-80602647Aug 09 21:00
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Conversation - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 12.12 KBAug 09 21:00
schestowitzmehAug 09 21:00
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/80602647 http://identi.ca/conversation/77992798#notice-80602647Aug 09 21:00
TechrightsBot-tr@Dayo (jargon)'s status on Tuesday, 09-Aug-11 19:46:46 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz that kind of looks like @reality with glasses onAug 09 21:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Conversation - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 12.12 KBAug 09 21:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @jargon hell,i don't even know what it *feels* like to trust "the authorities".Aug 09 21:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] @nj3ma Wait! What???Aug 09 21:01
schestowitzender_33: google spams me on your behalfAug 09 21:01
schestowitzjust minutes ago for exampleAug 09 21:01
schestowitzit's shown as though it;'s sent from youAug 09 21:01
schestowitzpromoting just a URL to Google's ad-filled junkAug 09 21:01
ender_33oh, ill remove you from my FOSS circleAug 09 21:02
ender_33since you're lying about G+Aug 09 21:02
ender_33there, no more sharingAug 09 21:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @jargon the job of the police is not to protect u. their job is to protect *the rich* from u. #EUSpringAug 09 21:04
ender_33you could do yourself a favour and blacklist *@plus.google.comAug 09 21:05
ender_33you do know how to do that right? I can make a video - which client do you use?Aug 09 21:06
schestowitzTom_B: http://ostatic.com/blog/gentoo-releases-11-2-livedvd-to-cricketsAug 09 21:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Gentoo Releases 11.2 LiveDVD to Crickets .::. Size~: 37.87 KBAug 09 21:06
schestowitzender_33: thunderbirdAug 09 21:07
ender_33version 5?Aug 09 21:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Nobody would spend money on software if they used Linux !!!!" Oh, really? http://ur1.ca/4vue9Aug 09 21:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @jargon so Mark Duggan *did not* open fire on the pigs before they offed him. #shocked? i think not. ur1.ca/4vu4h #PoliceState #EUSpringAug 09 21:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux Users Continue To Spend More On Humble Indie Bundle | OMG! Ubuntu! .::. Size~: 106.45 KBAug 09 21:09
ender_33thunderbird really made it easy to add gmailAug 09 21:13
ender_33Tools > Message FiltersAug 09 21:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Browser Linux – An Extremely Lightweight & Fast OS For Older x86 Computers [Linux] http://ur1.ca/4vuf7 Browser OS Runs LinuxAug 09 21:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Browser Linux – An Extremely Lightweight & Fast OS For Older x86 Computers [Linux] .::. Size~: 45.95 KBAug 09 21:14
ender_33Click "New"Aug 09 21:14
ender_33Select 'Match all of the following' select 'From' in the drop downAug 09 21:15
ender_33Input "@plus.google.com"Aug 09 21:15
ender_33If you have teamviewer I can do it for you. Then you'll never receive notifications from Google Plus.Aug 09 21:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] RT @stickster Tried #OpenShift out today for the first time. Took about 2 min to get from nothing to a working #Drupal 7 platform: Awesome.Aug 09 21:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Motorola Xoom gets Android 3.1 http://tinyurl.com/3nh6fkp #motorola #android #gnu #linuxAug 09 21:19
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Motorola Xoom gets Android 3.1 • reghardware .::. Size~: 19.63 KBAug 09 21:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @mairin protip: if you're looking to edit html email, evolution is not the droid you're looking for. thunderbird is. enjoy!Aug 09 21:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @androidzona Niña de 10 años hackea apps de Android http://tinyurl.com/3djmhap !androidAug 09 21:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Manchester riots: ~2,000 thugs rampage through city centre http://ur1.ca/4vufr http://ur1.ca/4vuft http://ur1.ca/4vufu was there 2 hours agoAug 09 21:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @fraterneo Disponible !Gentoo !Linux 11.2: El Futuro es ahora http://goo.gl/fb/utiiN !gnuAug 09 21:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz [Screenshots and Video] First Look at All New #Ubuntu Software Center Tech Preview http://ur1.ca/4vuc8 #canonical #gnu ...Aug 09 21:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz #LibreOffice vs. #OpenOffice .org: Showdown for Best Open Source Office Suite http://ur1.ca/4vuby #odfAug 09 21:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Niña de 10 años hackea apps de Android .::. Size~: 26.57 KBAug 09 21:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Manchester riots: '2,000' thugs rampage through city centre - mirror.co.uk .::. Size~: 103.85 KBAug 09 21:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Riots spread to Manchester & Salford » Inside Ireland .::. Size~: 28.77 KBAug 09 21:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BBC News - Shops and cars torched in Salford and Manchester .::. Size~: 81.11 KBAug 09 21:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: fraterneo GNU/Linux: Disponible Gentoo Linux 11.2: El Futuro es ahora .::. Size~: 132.73 KBAug 09 21:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Screenshots and Video] First Look at All New Ubuntu Software Center Tech Preview ~ Ubuntu Vibes .::. Size~: 122.54 KBAug 09 21:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: LibreOffice vs. OpenOffice.org: Showdown for Best Open Source Office Suite |  Wazi .::. Size~: 51.01 KBAug 09 21:21
schestowitzhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14468693 http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4106782,00.htmlAug 09 21:22
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BBC News - Violence flares in Manchester amid fresh rioting .::. Size~: 62.36 KBAug 09 21:22
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Buildings burn in Manchester in more UK rioting   - Israel News, Ynetnews .::. Size~: 28.72 KBAug 09 21:22
schestowitzVideos of the fire http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14468693Aug 09 21:24
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BBC News - Violence flares in Manchester amid fresh rioting .::. Size~: 62.36 KBAug 09 21:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] #linuxcon session of the day: Hands on #Embedded Linux w/ @yoctoproject bit.ly/pr57xUAug 09 21:24
schestowitzhttp://www.metro.co.uk/news/871882-manchester-riots-see-arndale-centre-targeted-as-uk-chaos-spreads gf.wordpress.com/2011/08/09/manchester-city-centre-disturbances-fuel-fears-of-riots-arndale-attacked-londonriots-manchesterriots/Aug 09 21:24
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Manchester riots see Arndale Centre targeted as UK chaos spreads  | Metro.co.uk .::. Size~: 46.82 KBAug 09 21:24
schestowitzNow they go after ArndaleAug 09 21:25
schestowitzMiss Selfridge store  on fire...Aug 09 21:25
schestowitzSOBsAug 09 21:26
MinceRi've delayed my purchase of a PCIe ExpressCard SSD for so long that the manufacturer stopped making those SSD-sAug 09 21:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] The Assad 4: WikiLeaks IDs 4 men suspected of secretly handling money for the Syrian president http://t.co/lKxQXqCAug 09 21:34
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ender_33these riots would be more effective globally instead of just small little skirmishesAug 09 21:34
ender_33what are they rioting aboutAug 09 21:37
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schestowitzender_33: nothingAug 09 21:38
ender_33that's a rather dumb reason to riotAug 09 21:38
ender_33really, whats the reasonAug 09 21:38
schestowitzyesAug 09 21:38
schestowitzJust to stealAug 09 21:38
schestowitzthey use as an excuse an event from LondonAug 09 21:39
ender_33eh?Aug 09 21:39
ender_33sounds like you just don't agree with themAug 09 21:39
schestowitzsearch the Web for the Tottenham incidentAug 09 21:39
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schestowitzender_33: why would I agree with them?Aug 09 21:39
schestowitzIn Egypt it was ddifferentAug 09 21:39
schestowitzThey sought to overthrow a dictatorAug 09 21:40
ender_33you're pro government?Aug 09 21:40
ender_33rhetorical I guessAug 09 21:40
schestowitzThey didn't just smash malls and set fires to shops as a sort of anti-capitalist orgasmAug 09 21:40
ender_33you love the systemAug 09 21:40
schestowitzin this case the government protects us from vabndalsAug 09 21:40
schestowitzthere are elements of the system which I view as necessaryAug 09 21:40
ender_33you would prefer they write letters that get ignored?Aug 09 21:40
schestowitzWithout them, there would be no restraintAug 09 21:40
SnitSchestowitz: for the next time I am on your show - do you want a list of questions / topics or do you prefer to be surprised?Aug 09 21:41
schestowitzRather than cops we would have gang warsAug 09 21:41
ender_33or should they demenad special interest group status and leech tax payer fundsAug 09 21:41
schestowitzAnd guns and stuffAug 09 21:41
schestowitzNo rules, people invading homes, grouping with a clanAug 09 21:41
SnitI know little of these riots... what the heck is going on?Aug 09 21:41
schestowitz!gogoel london riotsAug 09 21:41
schestowitz!googl elondon riotsAug 09 21:41
schestowitz!google london riotsAug 09 21:42
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - London riots - The Big Picture - Boston.com | http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2011/08/london_riots.htmlAug 09 21:42
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - 2011 London riots - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_London_riotsAug 09 21:42
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - BBC News - Live: UK riots | http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14449675Aug 09 21:42
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Police launch probe into London riots - ABC News (Australian ... | http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-08-08/london-launches-probe-into-riots/2828780Aug 09 21:42
ender_33you're opinion seems to come from the Guardian UKAug 09 21:42
SnitWell, I have done that.Aug 09 21:42
ender_33'we cannot give in to this thuggery'Aug 09 21:42
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schestowitzI don't read the GuardianAug 09 21:42
ender_33it'll be hard to find outAug 09 21:42
SnitLike the LA riots of a while back - just absurd.Aug 09 21:42
schestowitzyesAug 09 21:42
schestowitzLA police has m16s nowAug 09 21:42
ender_33the real reasons are being hidden by the newspapersAug 09 21:42
SnitSchestowitz: for the next time I am on your show - do you want a list of questions / topics or do you prefer to be surprised?Aug 09 21:42
schestowitzAnd maybe siome shutguns tooAug 09 21:42
SnitWhat are the "real reasons"?Aug 09 21:43
schestowitzThey gun outgunned by 2 men with armour and heavy weaponsAug 09 21:43
ender_33I dont knowAug 09 21:43
schestowitzsome years back they started being more like paramilitaryAug 09 21:43
ender_33all I can find about the riot are stories printed by newspapersAug 09 21:43
ender_33newspapers lie all the timeAug 09 21:43
schestowitz[21:43] <ender_33> I dont knowAug 09 21:43
schestowitzHehAug 09 21:43
schestowitzSo find outAug 09 21:43
schestowitzThen tell us the press is lyingAug 09 21:43
Snitender - so just a general statement... not like you have anything specific on this caseAug 09 21:43
schestowitzThr riots were originally about a paritcular incidentAug 09 21:44
ender_33the press would have to have a consistant record of not lying for me to believe a word they sayAug 09 21:44
schestowitzThe family of the man shot to death after an armed robbery has denounced those riotsAug 09 21:44
SnitConsistency is good.  :)Aug 09 21:44
ender_33trust is also earned, not assumedAug 09 21:44
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ender_33like respectAug 09 21:44
schestowitzNow these are just a national sport for a bunch of depressed thugsAug 09 21:44
schestowitzI saw them in city centreAug 09 21:44
SnitI read about the shooting... but there has to be a lot of pent up angerAug 09 21:44
schestowitzBecause s* hit the fanAug 09 21:44
schestowitzJust 2 minutes beforeAug 09 21:44
schestowitzWe got out of thereAug 09 21:44
ender_33I can't find a single paper that doesn't demonize the riotersAug 09 21:45
schestowitzWe wanted to see what was cookingAug 09 21:45
schestowitzNot a pleasant sightAug 09 21:45
schestowitz2 hours thereAug 09 21:45
ender_33'thugs stealing shit'Aug 09 21:45
schestowitzsmashed windows, riot police...Aug 09 21:45
SnitWell, what are the rioters saying?  Aug 09 21:45
schestowitzender_33: right, because the papers shouldAug 09 21:45
schestowitzThey are kids with hoodiesAug 09 21:45
ender_33I found one article where the rioters were allowed to get a few sentences outAug 09 21:45
schestowitzI was there and saw itAug 09 21:45
schestowitzGangs of trouble makersAug 09 21:45
schestowitzWaiting for first strikeAug 09 21:45
ender_33schestowitz - did you talk to themAug 09 21:45
schestowitzyouths mostlyAug 09 21:45
ender_33did you ask them why?Aug 09 21:46
schestowitzender_33: not the gangsAug 09 21:46
SnitIt is one thing for people to "riot" after Katrina to get food (though there was little of that)... but when you are not in such need it is absurd.Aug 09 21:46
schestowitzWould be riskyAug 09 21:46
ender_33'its just the youth'Aug 09 21:46
schestowitzmany are unemployedAug 09 21:46
ender_33JUSTAug 09 21:46
schestowitzAnd angryAug 09 21:46
ender_33ITS JUSTAug 09 21:46
ender_33thats your answer for everythingAug 09 21:46
ender_33ITS JUST xAug 09 21:46
schestowitzthat doesn't justify valdalismAug 09 21:46
ender_33no factsAug 09 21:46
SnitThere is a lot of pent up fear and anger in the US - I assume it is the same there.Aug 09 21:46
ender_33ITS JUST youthAug 09 21:46
schestowitzmayb in DetroitAug 09 21:46
schestowitzender_33: mostlyAug 09 21:46
SnitWorld economy is not exactly greatAug 09 21:46
schestowitzThe ones I sawAug 09 21:47
schestowitzmany of racial minoritiesAug 09 21:47
ender_33http://news.nationalpost.com/2011/08/09/in-their-own-words-u-k-citizens-on-the-riots/Aug 09 21:47
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schestowitzBut also whiteAug 09 21:47
schestowitzAnd kids around 17Aug 09 21:47
Snitender - thanksAug 09 21:47
schestowitzthey walk around in cliquesAug 09 21:47
schestowitzSome on bikesAug 09 21:47
ender_33“It’s the government’s fault. [...] We’re showing the police we can do what we want. All of this has happened because of the rich people. We’re just showing the rich people we can do what we want!”—Two Croydon girls interviewed by the BBCAug 09 21:47
ender_33“The majority of youngsters look at it and say, “What are we going to have when we’re older? What’s there going to be for us?” So, if they’re not going to have nothing, then, we’ll just go get it ourselves.”—North London residents to the BBCAug 09 21:47
schestowitzmaybe the majority of them are youthsAug 09 21:47
ender_33“The way they do the stop and search. They way they attack, I would say, the kids or the youth in the area is absolutely ridiculous and this is what needs to come through. The frustration from the youth is because of the way they are being dealt with, with the police. They’re angry with the police.”—North London residents to the BBCAug 09 21:48
schestowitzrightAug 09 21:48
ender_33“This is the uprising of the working class. We’re redistributing the wealth. In America you have the tea party, in England you’ve got this.”—A 28-year-old self-described anarchist to Fox NationAug 09 21:48
schestowitzThat doesn't justify what they doAug 09 21:48
schestowitzviolence would do thejm no goodAug 09 21:48
SnitAs economic inequality grows - things like this will happen.  Does not mean I support it... just that it is predictable.Aug 09 21:48
schestowitzapropos http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVbUzbLC5GE&feature=digestAug 09 21:49
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ender_33I'm anti-governmentAug 09 21:49
ender_33I get a kick out of this stuffAug 09 21:49
schestowitzit's not anti-govt.Aug 09 21:49
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schestowitzThey harm everyoneAug 09 21:49
schestowitzBusinessesAug 09 21:49
SnitWhat do you propose instead of government?Aug 09 21:49
schestowitztaxpayersAug 09 21:49
schestowitzshopsAug 09 21:49
schestowitzpeopleAug 09 21:49
ender_33Snit -freedomAug 09 21:49
schestowitzthe govt. hardly mindsAug 09 21:49
schestowitzharm the government by exposing itAug 09 21:50
schestowitzdeposingAug 09 21:50
Snitender - which requires government.  Got it.Aug 09 21:50
ender_33Snit - nopeAug 09 21:50
ender_33government is tyrannyAug 09 21:50
schestowitzharming people's property is not punishing 'government'Aug 09 21:50
schestowitzIt's punishing those peopleAug 09 21:50
ender_33any system of rules is non-freeAug 09 21:50
SnitWell, then, what is your solution?Aug 09 21:50
ThistleWebthe same freedom the rioters are showing by attacking anything they feel like, stealing whatever the police can't protectAug 09 21:50
ender_33no governmentAug 09 21:50
Snitender: no offense, but that is something you cannot support.  Aug 09 21:51
ThistleWebnow there's an enlightened society for yaAug 09 21:51
SnitNot in any group larger than a few dozen anyway.Aug 09 21:51
MinceRSnit: sounds like you're unaware of anarchism :>Aug 09 21:51
ender_33Snit - the abolition of government? I'll admit nobody will do itAug 09 21:51
ThistleWebof course, while the riots happen somewhere else, it's fineAug 09 21:51
ender_33thats what I want thoughAug 09 21:51
schestowitzWe have a post-Katrina without the hurricane and allAug 09 21:51
ender_33that's my utopia, not having to serve someone elseAug 09 21:51
MinceRi think it can be achieved by changing the human mindset and cultureAug 09 21:51
Snitpost-Katrina was actually pretty peaceful. Aug 09 21:51
MinceRit's a long way but it's worth itAug 09 21:51
ThistleWebwhen it arrives in your street, and you are in danger for your life, who can you call on to help?Aug 09 21:52
SnitThe media "reported" riots... but there were essentially none.Aug 09 21:52
schestowitzghost busters!Aug 09 21:52
SnitSchestowitz:   :)Aug 09 21:52
ThistleWebwhile in the middle of this as people ransack your home do you rejoice at the system of freedom that allows it?Aug 09 21:52
MinceRThistleWeb: if they don't prohibit you from bearing arms, you and your neighbor could protect yourselves :>Aug 09 21:52
ender_33they are rioting over 'nothing' even though they have reasonsAug 09 21:52
ender_33Roy just thinks their reasons aren't good, hence 'nothing'/Aug 09 21:52
SnitMinceR: well, the wealthiest will be able to get the biggest weapons.  They become the new law.Aug 09 21:52
SnitNo thanks...Aug 09 21:53
MinceRSnit: the wealthiest are the law, alreadyAug 09 21:53
MinceRdidn't you notice?Aug 09 21:53
ThistleWebevery street has checkpoints of gangsAug 09 21:53
SnitI prefer governance by government as opposed to governance by the wealthy (which is not to say they are not related!)Aug 09 21:53
ender_33ThistleWeb - Yeah cause I can murder them without worrying about cops arresting me and protecting the bad guyAug 09 21:53
MinceRthe governments are controlled by the wealthyAug 09 21:53
ThistleWebeveryone sees everyone esles as a threatAug 09 21:53
SnitMinceR: some truth to that - so why make it worse?Aug 09 21:53
MinceRwe can hope for more distributed control thoughAug 09 21:53
MinceRSnit: why not make it better?Aug 09 21:53
ThistleWeband this ability to murder with impunity also applies to you and your loved ones as victimsAug 09 21:54
MinceRwe can also hope to eliminate some costly indirections that don't helpAug 09 21:54
SnitMinceR: right... make government better and reduce control by the wealthy... do not eliminate it and increase control by the wealthyAug 09 21:54
MinceReventuallyAug 09 21:54
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ender_33ThistleWeb - then the fear of getting killed yourself might keep you from harming othersAug 09 21:54
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MinceRSnit: how would you make it better?Aug 09 21:54
ender_33works in ChinaAug 09 21:54
ThistleWebthe point of total anarchy means people doing what they wantAug 09 21:54
ender_33you get murdered for a lot of stuff they throw you into jail forAug 09 21:55
ThistleWebpeople want what you have, they take itAug 09 21:55
ender_33it causes them to think twice before doing the crimeAug 09 21:55
SnitMinceR: wow... big topic... short answer is give business and government a divorce.  Right now they work too closely together.Aug 09 21:55
ender_33will I die if I do this?Aug 09 21:55
MinceRSnit: how?Aug 09 21:55
ThistleWebif they take a liking to your wife or daighter they take them tooAug 09 21:55
ThistleWebthose with the biggest guns or the hardest attitudes winAug 09 21:56
ender_33ThistleWeb - you're assuming that everyone is a victim who requires a police officer to help them ALL the timeAug 09 21:56
MinceRThistleWeb: they'll have to think about retribution, or they'll die quicklyAug 09 21:56
SnitMinceR: not easy, but as much as you can pull money from politics.  Money is *not* free speech - if it was Bill Gates could pay jurors to not convict him and he could commit any crime he wanted.Aug 09 21:56
ender_33ThistleWeb - what is stopping that stuff from happening anyways?Aug 09 21:56
SnitBRBAug 09 21:56
ThistleWebno, I'm saying "total freedom" means there is NO protection from anything, for anyoneAug 09 21:56
MinceRthe police isn't there to help you anywayAug 09 21:56
ender_33ThistleWeb - it gives you the same protection that the cold war providedAug 09 21:56
ThistleWebyou're left to fend for yourselfAug 09 21:56
MinceRThistleWeb: no, "total freedom" means that the protection is that of your own and your alliesAug 09 21:56
ender_33mutually assured destructionAug 09 21:56
ender_33if you go around stealing from people and kidnapping, other people will come after youAug 09 21:57
ThistleWebdoesn't help the dead though eh?Aug 09 21:57
ender_33they don't need to be on a government payroll with 25% of your income being sapped at every paychequeAug 09 21:57
ender_33does the legal system help the dead?Aug 09 21:57
MinceRSnit: i doubt you can pull money from politics as long as people find money usefulAug 09 21:57
ThistleWebis that really a society you want?Aug 09 21:57
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ThistleWebwhere everyone is forced to be in a gangAug 09 21:58
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ender_33I would take the risk to have freedomAug 09 21:58
MinceRThistleWeb: everyone is already forced to be in a gangAug 09 21:58
ThistleWebjust to have some sembelence of protectionAug 09 21:58
MinceRThistleWeb: it's called "citizenship"Aug 09 21:58
ender_33I don't trade freedom for securityAug 09 21:58
schestowitzheheAug 09 21:58
ender_33thanksAug 09 21:58
schestowitzMinceR: but a very big gangAug 09 21:58
ThistleWebwhat happens when the gangs start demanding payementAug 09 21:58
schestowitzwith 22k armed policeAug 09 21:58
MinceRschestowitz: yes, and a very arbitrary oneAug 09 21:58
schestowitzit's a good 'gang' to be inAug 09 21:58
MinceRschestowitz: decided on a territorial basisAug 09 21:58
MinceRschestowitz: not so good when the police turns against youAug 09 21:58
ender_33He who would trade liberty for some temporary security, deserves neither liberty nor security.Aug 09 21:58
ThistleWebthat 25% you moan about going to govt, if the gang say "well, you live here we take 75%"Aug 09 21:59
MinceRschestowitz: or just doesn't see the need to protect youAug 09 21:59
ThistleWebdon't pay, we take it all and kick you outAug 09 21:59
ender_33ThistleWeb - except the gang right now is just called the CopsAug 09 21:59
ThistleWebthe cops have rulesAug 09 21:59
ender_33drive too fast?Aug 09 21:59
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ThistleWebthey have limitsAug 09 21:59
ender_33here is a ticket, you OWE usAug 09 21:59
schestowitztuhe publicAug 09 21:59
MinceRThistleWeb: yes, they have rules they ignoreAug 09 21:59
ender_33you didn't harm anyone by going that extra 5mph but we demand your moneyAug 09 21:59
schestowitzI'd rather see people fined for risking the lives of loved onesAug 09 22:00
MinceRwants to cross into a no entry zone? just flip on the flashing lights for a moment...Aug 09 22:00
MinceRor not even thatAug 09 22:00
ender_33thats because you guys really dont give a shit about freedomAug 09 22:00
MinceRwant to park where it's forbidden? sure, who can stop you?Aug 09 22:00
ender_33you want rules and regulations to keep capitalists at bayAug 09 22:00
ender_33freedom is just an excuseAug 09 22:00
MinceRthe police don't follow the rulesAug 09 22:00
ThistleWebI'd love to see an experiment, where all the people who think anarchy is a better system, take em all off and dump them on an islandAug 09 22:00
schestowitzparkigj badly denies others' freedomAug 09 22:00
schestowitzUsually by disrupting trafficAug 09 22:00
ThistleWebrevisit a yr later to see how many are still aliveAug 09 22:00
MinceRThistleWeb: i did not suggest it can be introduced immediatelyAug 09 22:01
ThistleWebhow many are begging to be rescuedAug 09 22:01
ender_33ThistleWeb - I bet you're wrongAug 09 22:01
ThistleWebnow, next week, next yr makes no difference to the outcomeAug 09 22:01
schestowitzI saw in my own eyes the people in the city centre for 2 hours almost. Nobody was there for anything other than to cause trouble, it's no about freedom, it's about power to harm the surroundingsAug 09 22:01
ender_33people would group into tribes and protect each otherAug 09 22:01
ender_33schestowitz - you didnt talk to anyoneAug 09 22:02
ender_33you're just a liarAug 09 22:02
ThistleWebyeah, where gangs control their little patches, and anybody coming in is in troubleAug 09 22:02
ThistleWebforget finding work outside of your own gangAug 09 22:02
ender_33You watched them destroy stuff and in your mind you grouped that with hoodlumsAug 09 22:02
MinceRthen again, in an environment where there are only anarchists, they might work out a better organization than what we haveAug 09 22:02
ThistleWebforget any freinds and relatives in different gangsAug 09 22:02
ThistleWebthey can't visit you safely, nor you themAug 09 22:03
ender_33ThistleWeb - I bet you can't imagine life without money tooAug 09 22:03
ender_33ThistleWeb - gotta have government and a money system right?Aug 09 22:03
ThistleWebtolls to get passed checkpoints at every stage meaning you're lucky to get home with some stuffAug 09 22:03
ender_33the two points of tyranny that are a common denominator across the worldAug 09 22:03
ThistleWebgovernment is required in a civilised society, as are public services, which need to be funded by taxAug 09 22:04
MinceRmoney is just an easily storable and movable thing you can use to help out in trading :>Aug 09 22:04
ThistleWebthat doesn't mean it's a fair balance now, but it is still nessesaryAug 09 22:04
MinceRgovernment is not required in a civilised societyAug 09 22:04
ender_33I don't think taxes are rightAug 09 22:04
MinceRpublic services can be provided in a truly service-based manner, they don't have to be bound to the stateAug 09 22:04
ender_33taxes and fees are just used to take back the slaves labourAug 09 22:05
MinceRalso, many services and utilities could be made obsolete by the advancement of technologyAug 09 22:05
ThistleWebI rephrase that, if you don't want to just turf people away from stuff when they can't pay.....it's requiredAug 09 22:05
ender_33I agree with MincerAug 09 22:05
ender_33I think technology could free us from the tyranny of governmentAug 09 22:05
MinceRThistleWeb: nobody prevents you from being charitableAug 09 22:05
ender_33Mincer - gotta have forced charityAug 09 22:06
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ThistleWebwhen you're on the "needing" end of that, do you think you just accept that you got nothing and peacefully walk away?Aug 09 22:06
MinceRdo you think i have a choice? even now?Aug 09 22:06
ThistleWebjust sit down peacefully in a corner and starveAug 09 22:07
MinceRthe state might not even let you do thatAug 09 22:07
ender_33ThistleWeb - thats evolution, the weak don't surviveAug 09 22:07
MinceRit owns that corner, after allAug 09 22:07
ThistleWeboh what a fucking bleak future you guys wantAug 09 22:07
ThistleWebI really hope it's not a contagious thoughtAug 09 22:07
MinceRwe're said to have social security -- yet there are medical treatments that are necessary to some people yet not covered by social securityAug 09 22:07
ender_33better than a candy coated pseudo-free societyAug 09 22:07
ender_33where the rich/elite get to do whatever they want and we're the one bound by lawAug 09 22:08
MinceRThistleWeb: also, i live in a bleak presentAug 09 22:08
ThistleWebI'm bowing out of this convoAug 09 22:08
ThistleWebit's pointlessAug 09 22:08
MinceRi don't think that merely a social system or lack of it can fix itAug 09 22:08
ThistleWebhave funAug 09 22:08
ender_33ThistleWeb - thats your freedomAug 09 22:08
ender_33don't try to pass laws on your way out preventing this type of discussionAug 09 22:09
MinceRif you took the state away from today's population, people would just recreate it in the same formAug 09 22:09
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ender_33I'm skeptical of the idea that society would collapse without government.Aug 09 22:11
ender_33That was something we were told in a government-sponsored school.Aug 09 22:11
MinceRi think it goes deeper than thatAug 09 22:11
MinceRit is ingrained in most human minds that you need to lead or be ledAug 09 22:11
MinceRalso, the term "anarchy" is demonized without explaining what it meansAug 09 22:12
Tom_B@MinceR: yeah, i think you're rightAug 09 22:12
Tom_Bpeople generally /want/ to be ledAug 09 22:12
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ender_33Anarchy without adjectivesAug 09 22:13
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Tom_Bor 'need' if you wantAug 09 22:13
MinceRTom_B: that's what i see in most peopleAug 09 22:13
Tom_Bthat's what i saw just todayAug 09 22:13
MinceRender_33: other kinds of anarchy aren't even mentionedAug 09 22:13
ender_33Voltairine de CleyreAug 09 22:13
Tom_Bwhen all division managers at work were at some financial meetingAug 09 22:13
Tom_Band it was just us, the minionsAug 09 22:13
Tom_Bmost were just paralyzed by the lack of supervisionAug 09 22:14
ender_33She figured that the system of government would figure itself out after anarchy and that many different anarchy groups would do experimentations on their ownAug 09 22:14
Tom_Byou'd thing, yeah, all hell will break loose nowAug 09 22:14
Tom_Bbut it didn'tAug 09 22:14
Tom_Bvery interesting to see :-)Aug 09 22:15
ender_33"There is nothing un-Anarchistic about any of [these systems] until the element of compulsion enters and obliges unwilling persons to remain in a community whose economic arrangements they do not agree to."Aug 09 22:15
Tom_Bhey, sounds like /me/Aug 09 22:16
Tom_B:-pAug 09 22:16
ender_33me tooAug 09 22:16
Tom_Bbut then again, 'systems' drive me nutsAug 09 22:17
ender_33I never asked to be in the United Nations, my country forced me to be in it.Aug 09 22:17
Tom_BroflAug 09 22:17
ender_33I am now expected to comply with UN laws even if there are no Canadian equivalents.Aug 09 22:17
ender_33Tough luck on that one.Aug 09 22:17
ender_33Most don't notice because countries copy their laws as a standard procedure.Aug 09 22:18
Tom_Blaws should be copyrighted!Aug 09 22:18
MinceRthe UN would allow them to be copied anywayAug 09 22:19
Tom_Bhey, you can't prohibit murder unless you pay us royalties!Aug 09 22:19
ender_33I don't want the United Nations to direct my education. Yet I was forced to be in school until 16 and was subjected to UN indoctrination disguised as education.Aug 09 22:19
MinceRon the other hand, it would make it much more difficult to obey and analyse lawsAug 09 22:19
ender_33McGuinty raised the age to 18Aug 09 22:19
Tom_Bah, like over hereAug 09 22:20
MinceRender_33: what are some elements of that UN indoctrinationm disguised as education?Aug 09 22:20
schestowitzenvironment?Aug 09 22:21
ender_33Mincer - classes on politics, history, geography and the push towards environmentalismAug 09 22:21
schestowitzor is it the "gay awareness" theme?Aug 09 22:21
MinceRender_33: sounds like a stretch to meAug 09 22:21
schestowitzbetter than US' POV on historyAug 09 22:21
schestowitzWhich whitewashes genocide and slaveryAug 09 22:21
schestowitzBut the UN doesn't go far enough in that respectAug 09 22:21
ender_33the US POV on history also comes from the UN, what they don't cut outAug 09 22:21
ender_33Can I vote for who runs the UN?Aug 09 22:22
schestowitzno,, bil, doesAug 09 22:22
MinceR:>Aug 09 22:22
schestowitzand he has them over to loungeAug 09 22:22
schestowitz!google bill gates mansion un headAug 09 22:22
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ender_33bill gates?Aug 09 22:22
schestowitzyesAug 09 22:22
schestowitzhe runs the UN tooAug 09 22:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Samba Team Releases Samba 3.6: http://www.samba.org/samba/news/releases/3.6.0.htmlAug 09 22:22
schestowitzby proxyAug 09 22:22
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schestowitzAnd UN heads stay in his houseAug 09 22:23
ender_33even more of a reason not to listen to anything from the UN thenAug 09 22:23
ender_33you should be on my sideAug 09 22:23
schestowitzIt's really quite disturbinghAug 09 22:23
schestowitzYou'd think that multi-billionaires run the UKAug 09 22:23
schestowitzUKAug 09 22:23
schestowitz>UNAug 09 22:23
MinceRi think most people here already oppose the UNAug 09 22:23
ender_33would bill gates not have a reason to modify history?Aug 09 22:23
schestowitzBoth are trueAug 09 22:23
schestowitzBut I meant the UNAug 09 22:23
MinceRconsider that the WIPO is a UN organisationAug 09 22:23
schestowitz!google annajn gates techrightsAug 09 22:23
TechrightsBot-trNo Google resultsAug 09 22:23
schestowitz!google annan gates techrightsAug 09 22:23
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ender_33its not surpising that the UN head is prancing around with the eliteAug 09 22:24
schestowitzand the other guy, of Asian origin who heads the UNAug 09 22:24
schestowitzEven closer to Gates than annanAug 09 22:24
ender_33people were saying things about the UN prancing with the elite before GatesAug 09 22:24
schestowitz[22:23] <ender_33> would bill gates not have a reason to modify history?Aug 09 22:24
schestowitzHe already does thisAug 09 22:24
ender_33Ban Ki Moon ?Aug 09 22:24
schestowitzHe has a history-war;ping operationAug 09 22:24
schestowitzIt's called "gateds foundation{"Aug 09 22:24
schestowitzSpends a lot of money distorting media for profitAug 09 22:24
schestowitzender_33: yesAug 09 22:24
ender_33so then im confused, are you guys both agreeing and disagreeing with my UN statements?Aug 09 22:24
schestowitz!google Ban Ki Moon "bill gates"Aug 09 22:25
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MinceRender_33: yes.Aug 09 22:25
MinceRender_33: i agree with some of them and disagree with othersAug 09 22:25
ender_33ahh okAug 09 22:25
ender_33its easier if you accept the nwo premiseAug 09 22:25
schestowitzMinceR: so the UN has work left to be done /sarcasmAug 09 22:25
MinceR:>Aug 09 22:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz "ISO, a division of Microsoft" http://ur1.ca/4vury Priceless! Microsoft sure corrupted ISO. And almost nobody remembers...Aug 09 22:26
ender_33schestowitz - by the byAug 09 22:26
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schestowitzthere are already many things we are not allowed to sayAug 09 22:26
MinceRender_33: i wouldn't be surprised if there were multiple world domination plans in movementAug 09 22:26
ender_33riots were predicted by the UK DOD years agoAug 09 22:26
schestowitzAs they would shock our indoctrinated peers (family, friends, collagues)Aug 09 22:26
schestowitzI.e. pose a threat of isolation, loss of job, etc.Aug 09 22:26
ender_33Mincer - I almost suspect there are, and each are blaming each other as an nwo toolAug 09 22:27
schestowitzWhen I was younger I admit I was more hoistile towards gay cultureAug 09 22:27
schestowitzThese days people are considered to be disgusting for voicing such opinions in /Western culture/Aug 09 22:27
schestowitzSome of the same rules apply to race, gender, etc.Aug 09 22:27
schestowitzEven when these are trueAug 09 22:27
ender_33I think you should have the right to be racist, sexist, and discriminate towards othersAug 09 22:27
schestowitzFor example, you're get dirty looks if you suggested a woman would make a lesser capable soldierAug 09 22:28
ender_33If you're not hurting peopleAug 09 22:28
ender_33andAug 09 22:28
schestowitzWe are supposed to pretend all is the same to avoid feelings of discontent and someone choosing to feel insultedAug 09 22:28
ender_33I don't accept the premise that mere words cause violenceAug 09 22:28
schestowitz[22:28] <ender_33> If you're not hurting peopleAug 09 22:28
schestowitzIt doesn't work that way thoughAug 09 22:28
MinceRdoesn't that discrimination by definition hurt people?Aug 09 22:28
ender_33physically cause painAug 09 22:29
ender_33or injuryAug 09 22:29
ender_33emotional pain? suck it upAug 09 22:29
schestowitzyesAug 09 22:29
MinceRso it's ok if it causes poverty? :>Aug 09 22:29
ender_33how would it cause poverty?Aug 09 22:29
schestowitzSome idiot showed in an image ewquivalence between shouting and a fist punching a womenAug 09 22:29
schestowitz*womanAug 09 22:29
MinceRfor example by "i don't hire brown people"Aug 09 22:29
schestowitzTHis became very controversial - this piece of artAug 09 22:29
ender_33if thats the case we should pass some speech laws against banksAug 09 22:29
ender_33lolAug 09 22:29
ThistleWeba quick thought, if the world descends into gangs, how is that "no government"? it's just lots of local groups of people performing the functions of a government as best they can in much smaller groupsAug 09 22:30
MinceRi completely agree on the "suck up the emotional pain" part thoughAug 09 22:30
ThistleWebit's still a structure of governanceAug 09 22:30
MinceRThistleWeb: see, that's why culture and mindset must change firstAug 09 22:30
ender_33ThistleWeb - if its voluntary its fineAug 09 22:30
MinceRThistleWeb: that said, "structure of governance" by itself doesn't contradict anarchismAug 09 22:30
MinceRThistleWeb: as long as it's voluntaryAug 09 22:30
ThistleWebto do things that the group needs, it needs funds from the group, hence some form of taxationAug 09 22:30
ender_33ThistleWeb - I can't just stop paying taxes and liveAug 09 22:30
MinceRtaxation is not the only way to obtain fundsAug 09 22:30
schestowitzBTW, I intend not to censor/discouraged those discussions about anarchy because I think they offend nobody, although some may find the subject itself offensiveAug 09 22:31
MinceRpayment for services when the services are provided is not taxationAug 09 22:31
ender_33ThistleWeb - some thug/gang member from the government will just come to my house and say I owe them 'tax' moneyAug 09 22:31
MinceRpayment for products is not taxationAug 09 22:31
MinceRvoluntary subscription for a service is not taxationAug 09 22:31
schestowitzthe "choose to be insulted" thing is nastyAug 09 22:31
ThistleWebno, it probs won't be taxation, it's much more likely to be roadblocks robbing outsiders blindAug 09 22:31
ender_33protection moneyAug 09 22:31
ender_33the government wants protection money to protect you from themAug 09 22:31
schestowitzI had a chat about it with a female colleague of mineAug 09 22:31
ender_33don't pay taxes? jailAug 09 22:31
schestowitzShe was on the receiving side of racial slurs, I thinkAug 09 22:32
ThistleWeblook at Iraq, it's broken down to that type of system where different groups look after their ownAug 09 22:32
ender_33I live in CanadaAug 09 22:32
schestowitzender_33: not reallyAug 09 22:32
ender_33im a white maleAug 09 22:32
ThistleWebwhere violence against the others is just a way of lifeAug 09 22:32
schestowitzAnd you could escape to far away places without taxAug 09 22:32
ender_33I get racist slurs against me all the timeAug 09 22:32
schestowitzBut you would not have state services thereAug 09 22:32
schestowitzyou'd need to hunt for food and make fire without matcxhes to get warmthAug 09 22:32
ender_33I can show you a picture I took of the city sidewalk in a park that had spray painted "FUCK WHITES"Aug 09 22:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Apple Locks Down Its Supremely Lootable British Stores (Gawker): http://gaw.kr/ntezl2Aug 09 22:32
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ThistleWebif an area is ousted it will be by force, and those from the previous gang will be treated as slavesAug 09 22:33
ender_33I'm not butthurtAug 09 22:33
schestowitzThe places where you can live so isolated are usuall very cold in winterAug 09 22:33
schestowitzuninhabitable without some technologyAug 09 22:33
schestowitzTherefore you need to state to be based thereAug 09 22:33
ThistleWebif you need stuff like medicine, you're at the mercy of the gangs who control itAug 09 22:33
ender_33whyAug 09 22:33
schestowitzoff the grid you're freezeAug 09 22:33
ender_33why does technology require the stateAug 09 22:33
ender_33why can't you generate your own powerAug 09 22:33
ender_33you have to be part of the community gridAug 09 22:33
ender_33with a utilities company that pays the government to rip you offAug 09 22:34
ThistleWebit's a future I'd expect to find as a brainstorming session for a fictional storyAug 09 22:34
schestowitzgood luck making your own powerAug 09 22:34
schestowitzfrom what, trees?Aug 09 22:34
ender_33every idea you an come up with thats pro-government allows someone with money to exploit someoneAug 09 22:34
schestowitzAnd use that to make electricity?Aug 09 22:34
ender_33solar, windAug 09 22:34
ThistleWebit's not something that I'd ever hope to see realityAug 09 22:34
schestowitzoil on the ground is no more and you need tools for coalAug 09 22:34
ender_33nuclear if you had the technology and the materialsAug 09 22:34
MinceRThistleWeb: it's a strawman, thoughAug 09 22:35
schestowitzAnd if you want to make your own alcohol, good luck with the stomach... and make up your own disctor for when you get poisoning from itAug 09 22:35
ThistleWebareas rich in resources will be constant battlezonesAug 09 22:35
MinceRschestowitz: solar, wind, geothermal, tidalAug 09 22:35
ender_33people do make their own alcoholAug 09 22:35
ender_33its called moonshineAug 09 22:35
schestowitza doctor without tools or medicine or anaestheticsAug 09 22:35
ender_33before that, beer was invented without gov'tAug 09 22:35
MinceRhouses that produce their energy needs (and more) are well knownAug 09 22:35
schestowitzwith which tools?Aug 09 22:36
ender_33I could do without all the pseudo-doctorsAug 09 22:36
ThistleWebthey will be targets for people who don't have that abilityAug 09 22:36
schestowitzthey needed to get them from modern societyAug 09 22:36
schestowitzso they were still dependentAug 09 22:36
ThistleWebyou have something we want, if you cant stop us, we'll take itAug 09 22:36
ender_33matching a list of symptoms with a list of drugs you get commission on isn't skill or anythign I wantAug 09 22:36
MinceRno, they need to get them from people/businesses that sell them at a fair priceAug 09 22:36
MinceRnot "modern society"Aug 09 22:36
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/80606008Aug 09 22:37
TechrightsBot-tr@Gabriel Saldana (gabrielsaldana)'s status on Tuesday, 09-Aug-11 21:12:04 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz I remember. That's why I always reject any OOXML document that lands in my inboxAug 09 22:37
ThistleWebwhat fair price? if the place is all gangs, who will sell outside of their areas?Aug 09 22:37
ender_33we have the technology to be self sustainingAug 09 22:37
ender_33without governmentAug 09 22:37
MinceRThistleWeb: the price the free market setsAug 09 22:37
ender_33even the internet would work as WiMax can enable wifi gridsAug 09 22:37
ender_33no need to have the government lease land for contractors to put wires downAug 09 22:37
ThistleWebif you face being charged a toll to cross every gang manned checkpoint, or face the threat of your truck being hijacked at any one of them, why would you?Aug 09 22:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] First Draft of Turtle Published http://ow.ly/1eaAm4Aug 09 22:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] 7 necessary ingredients for freedom in the cloud by @greve of !FSFE http://redd.it/jdwrp !FranklinStreet !lp !sfc !gnuAug 09 22:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Publishing Gives Hints of Revival, Data Show (NYT): http://nyti.ms/ngIXA4Aug 09 22:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Regata „Regele Ferdinand I” la Mangalia http://tinyurl.com/3orfbk9 #romania #monarchy #ferdinand #nicolae #marineAug 09 22:37
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MinceRyou can also have point-to-point laser or microwave links :>Aug 09 22:38
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ender_33ThistleWeb - give me details on these strawmen checkpointsAug 09 22:38
ender_33can you go around?Aug 09 22:38
ThistleWebor do you employ a convoy to protect each delivery truck as well as the factoryAug 09 22:38
ender_33what if you take an offroad vehicleAug 09 22:38
MinceRwhat if you take a VTOL planeAug 09 22:38
ender_33does the fictional checkpoint stretch across the planet?Aug 09 22:38
MinceRmaybe the planet is the checkpointAug 09 22:39
ThistleWebwhat about people seeing your stuff to do business with you? phones work? internet?Aug 09 22:39
ender_33perhapsAug 09 22:39
SnitJust reading through... suck up emotional pain.  Lovely sentiment. Aug 09 22:39
ThistleWebplanes and planets yeah, all very localisedAug 09 22:39
ender_33ThistleWeb - what would you do now?Aug 09 22:39
ender_33call the cops?Aug 09 22:39
ThistleWebthat's the way to deal with trading with the next town, fly thereAug 09 22:39
ender_33cops don't know what to do with a wifi hackerAug 09 22:40
ThistleWebavoiding the chaos you think is a better system for allAug 09 22:40
ThistleWebexcept it's not for youAug 09 22:40
MinceRcops can't even find the asshole who scratched the paint job on my carAug 09 22:40
ender_33avoiding what chaosAug 09 22:40
ThistleWebyou have to fly over itAug 09 22:40
ender_33just strawmenAug 09 22:40
MinceRanarchy is not defined as "chaos"Aug 09 22:40
ender_33he thinks without government you get chaosAug 09 22:40
ThistleWebcall it whatever you wantAug 09 22:40
ender_33you'll get chaos until people find out they do have to fear for their lives if foundAug 09 22:41
ender_33if found causing troubleAug 09 22:41
ThistleWebif you can't travel very far without going through multiple checkpoints armed by gangs who have their own rulesAug 09 22:41
ender_33take a rape for example, what happens NOW to a rape victim and the criminal?Aug 09 22:42
ender_33there is a lengthy trial and the rapist will have a lawyer who will try to get him offAug 09 22:42
MinceRkinkyAug 09 22:42
ThistleWebyou can't leave your own turf because you may have nothing to come back to, or may not make it back at allAug 09 22:42
ender_33vs, the victim would tell people they know and the person will get murderedAug 09 22:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @dpic 7 necessary ingredients for freedom in the cloud by @greve of !FSFE http://redd.it/jdwrp !FranklinStreet !lp !sfc !gnuAug 09 22:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] sleep well @malokiAug 09 22:42
ThistleWebso you can forget your familiy and freinds in other areasAug 09 22:42
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MinceRwell, afaik in fundie country it might be a case of enforced marriage and payment :>Aug 09 22:43
MinceRthat's what the bible says, after allAug 09 22:43
ender_33enforced marriage and paymentAug 09 22:43
ender_33gotta love governmentAug 09 22:43
ender_33ill be backAug 09 22:43
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schestowitzwho will investigate rape casesAug 09 22:54
schestowitzwho will chase down serial killers?Aug 09 22:54
MinceRvictims, private investigators, vigilantes, physical security providersAug 09 22:55
schestowitzcan they gather intelligence?Aug 09 22:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @habi wonders if these spammers are really so dumb to tag themselves with #spam: http://identi.ca/peopletag/spam !spamreportAug 09 22:56
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MinceRwhoever doesn't want themselves or their dependents to be the next victimAug 09 22:56
schestowitzRemember serial killers are smart people, they hide their tracksAug 09 22:56
schestowitzAnd the victims are deadAug 09 22:56
MinceRthey can use private investigation methodsAug 09 22:56
MinceRthough there's no surveillance society, i'll give you thatAug 09 22:56
schestowitzI think this is a case where having public-funded police can helpAug 09 22:56
schestowitz[22:56] <MinceR> they can use private investigation methodsAug 09 22:57
schestowitzTorture?Aug 09 22:57
schestowitzExtortion?Aug 09 22:57
MinceRnopeAug 09 22:57
schestowitzRandom/hostage?Aug 09 22:57
schestowitz*somAug 09 22:57
MinceRi don't even know where you get these thingsAug 09 22:57
schestowitzMicrosoft Bible :0-)Aug 09 22:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Help pressure #Syria to return the abducted and stop the bloodshed: http://bit.ly/r7JLTI #p2 #MiddleEastAug 09 22:57
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MinceRwho will protect people from the police?Aug 09 22:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Drop them. ♺ @heeed: Ok, time to remove the gloves #ukriotsAug 09 22:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @davidmarsden: They're the wrong kind of rioters. #onlyintheUKAug 09 22:59
Tom_Bour lord and saviour jezus h. christ?Aug 09 23:00
Tom_Bperhaps?Aug 09 23:00
MinceR:>Aug 09 23:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @jstone 39 min now ... RT @humble: 49 minutes left for Humble Indie Bundle 3! Make sure your friends get it before it closes http:// ...Aug 09 23:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] into the UK riots erupting all oer the place, welcome to #Oggcamp with some luck it won't be affectedAug 09 23:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] sleep well @marjoleinkAug 09 23:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] g'night @mo6020Aug 09 23:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @psquid That's how he rolls. http://i.imgur.com/6Gy25.gifAug 09 23:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @psquid: A very British riot response: http://flic.kr/p/abmLRwAug 09 23:36
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: 00:38 9/8/2011: Camden Town, London | Flickr - Photo Sharing! .::. Size~: 225.08 KBAug 09 23:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @psquid: That's how he rolls. http://i.imgur.com/6Gy25.gifAug 09 23:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] I am so damn angry about all this violence in England. This is just senseless irrational violence perpetrated by total unequivocal morons.Aug 09 23:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] If you are in Wolverhampton, be at the Man On The Horse tomorrow morning at 9am to help with the clean-up. Bring brushes and supplies.Aug 09 23:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I meant to ask, @FOSSpatents what happens in the UK (where we've only ever accepted software patents on codecs so far) ?Aug 09 23:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Supercapacitor made from a single sheet of graphite oxide http://bit.ly/onGnAiAug 09 23:51
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