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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Its been nearly 2 and a half weeks, but we've just recorded TechBytes Episode 58.....Aug 24 00:00
SnitHow often do you do shows... shows what I know.  :)Aug 24 00:01
SnitI am not in a rush to do it, but would like to know around when.Aug 24 00:01
_Goblinits ideally about every week...give or take a day......Aug 24 00:06
SnitMakes senseAug 24 00:06
_Goblinso next tuesday there will be a new one (or around that day)....of course in between we sometimes have fill in shows with updates/additional to previous ones.Aug 24 00:06
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/81466677Aug 24 00:08
TechrightsBot-tr@Alexandre Oliva (lxoliva)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Aug-11 21:33:36 UTC - Identi.ca: @tekk @schestowitz after I read “Under the Black Flag” (tks @rms), no romanticism and coolness related with pirates remainedAug 24 00:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Top Business-Minded Tablet? The Toshiba Thrive or the Apple iPad 2? http://ur1.ca/4ygyy #apple #linux #android #toshibaAug 24 00:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @openbytes: Its been nearly 2 and a half weeks, but we've just recorded TechBytes Episode 58.....Aug 24 00:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Top Business-Minded Tablet? The Toshiba Thrive or the Apple iPad 2? | Mobile Bloom News .::. Size~: 38.94 KBAug 24 00:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Why The iPad 3 Is Irrelevant http://ur1.ca/4ygzo #Android beat #Apple around iPhone 3 daysAug 24 00:12
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Why The iPad 3 Is Irrelevant    - Seeking Alpha .::. Size~: 107.93 KBAug 24 00:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Fox 'news' is a joke [IMG] http://i.imgur.com/HnhgK.jpgAug 24 00:13
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schestowitzhttp://i.imgur.com/VFNZ6.jpgAug 24 00:14
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schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/105991837046669312Aug 24 00:15
TechrightsBot-tr@FOSSpatents: The Wall Street Journal's Tech Europe blog refers to FOSS Patents twice on Apple v. Samsung http://t.co/dYurJYa calls it "usually reliable"Aug 24 00:15
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schestowitzLOLAug 24 00:15
schestowitz"FOSS patents"Aug 24 00:15
schestowitzThe ANTI-FOSS blogAug 24 00:15
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/105993846864883713Aug 24 00:15
TechrightsBot-tr@FOSSpatents: @migueldeicaza thanks! it's actually already the 4th quote there in 8 daysAug 24 00:15
schestowitzShoving it into thereAug 24 00:15
schestowitzspamming reportersAug 24 00:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] New Open Source Smartphone OS Planned For South Korea http://ur1.ca/4yh0p a lot can be done with !meegoAug 24 00:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle: New Open Source Smartphone OS Planned For South Korea » Phone Reviews .::. Size~: 34.92 KBAug 24 00:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "inaugurated initially to develop the open-source platform !MeeGO by a division of Open Source Technology Center." http://ur1.ca/4yh0yAug 24 00:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Monica Ene is country manager of the Intel R&D center in Bucharest  - News - Business Review .::. Size~: 25.35 KBAug 24 00:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Oracle Wants All Software To Be Proprietary http://ur1.ca/4yh13 Ellison sort of said so himselfAug 24 00:32
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Oracle Wants All Software To Be Proprietary - Seeking Alpha .::. Size~: 112.63 KBAug 24 00:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The latest FUD from SCO booster Douglas A. McIntyre http://ur1.ca/4yh3y #Google #FUDAug 24 00:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Does Android Matter? - 24/7 Wall St. .::. Size~: 70.65 KBAug 24 00:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Audio: rare interview with Wikileaks' Julian Assange http://ur1.ca/4yh5r "he spoke at length about information's role in democracy"Aug 24 00:37
_Goblinschestowitz: Ive noticed many people say the same thing about the Fosspatents site and Florian....Aug 24 00:37
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Audio: rare interview with Wikileaks' Julian Assange | PRI.ORG .::. Size~: 59.32 KBAug 24 00:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] If Canonical offered something like Suse Studio, would we see so many Ubuntu derived distro's released?Aug 24 00:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] I'd love to see an authentic sounding Apr 1st story about "Apple buys Canonical, uses Ubuntu & Unity as low budget Mac"Aug 24 00:42
schestowitz_Goblin: it's a reality distortion operationAug 24 00:44
schestowitzWhose purpose is to make it seem like Android is a nuthouse, 'IP' wiseAug 24 00:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks will shortly release 5523 new cables.Aug 24 00:45
schestowitzCopyright this, API that,  lawsuits being countedAug 24 00:45
schestowitzEven from Microsoft proxiesAug 24 00:45
schestowitzHiding evidence of Microsoft connectipnAug 24 00:45
schestowitzAnd later when he's  proven to be a liar I show thisAug 24 00:45
schestowitzAnd he tries to thretaen meAug 24 00:45
schestowitzBecause he knows reported will shun him if they find outAug 24 00:46
schestowitzHe actually threatened me several tiemsAug 24 00:46
schestowitzCause he has lots to hideAug 24 00:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Is Mark getting nervous? ;) http://goo.gl/MBS2A #facebook #googleplus #diasporaAug 24 00:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BBC News - Facebook changes privacy options .::. Size~: 62.74 KBAug 24 00:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] The 5523 cables detail US reporting on China, Taiwan and Libya.Aug 24 00:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Are we reviving the "missing the point" identimeme?Aug 24 01:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Data Governance, our idea for the Moore Foundation: http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/28756 #opendata #openscienceAug 24 01:07
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Data Governance, our idea for the Moore Foundation - Creative Commons .::. Size~: 14.63 KBAug 24 01:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] Election Announcement for The Document Foundation Board of Directors: http://wmk.me/r9NLuIAug 24 01:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [tdf-announce] Election Announcement for The Document Foundation Board of Directors - The Document Foundation Mailing List Archives .::. Size~: 10.49 KBAug 24 01:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Am I the only person who hears Jackie #Gleason's voice wrt #Naughton? Probably.Aug 24 01:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] "How to Find Cheap Textbooks"; CC licensed open textbooks give teachers flexibility to tailor content - http://goo.gl/BJJh7 ht @txtbksAug 24 01:18
TechrightsBot-trTitle: How to Find Cheap Textbooks - NYTimes.com .::. Size~: 60.09 KBAug 24 01:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] RT @psquid @reality I think you're missing the point of @fontana's dent; that is, referencing the meme in order to give it a surge in usage.Aug 24 01:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Looking forward to ICM Horizons at Fusionopolis today. http://horizons11.i2r.a-star.edu.sg/ #fbAug 24 01:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks: 2,170 US cables from Taiwan released! http://t.co/UGYCuCKAug 24 01:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks: 3,004 cables from China released! http://t.co/i8wqzqyAug 24 01:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks: 349 cables from Libya released! http://t.co/N7mrYlKAug 24 01:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] oh, it's about time for me to leave for the NBLUG board of director's meeting. /me needs ideas for presentationsAug 24 01:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Some people don't like change, for everyone else, there's WIKILEAKS http://t.co/vdxcHU9 http://t.co/keJ07BGAug 24 01:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @metal: Marco Civil da Internet chega ao Congresso na próxima semana (será que acredito?!) http://is.gd/r6wOZOAug 24 01:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Stay tuned for more important announcements, including 4000 cables from Israel.Aug 24 01:55
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Marco Civil da Internet chega ao Congresso na próxima semana .::. Size~: 40.9 KBAug 24 01:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @mfullilove: Allow me to be the first to congratulate @WikiLeaks on bringing the #Gaddafi regime to its knees. You guys rock.Aug 24 02:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Stay tuned for Israel, Russia, Venezuela, Indonesia, Syria, Somalia, Bahrain, South Africa, Yemen, ...Aug 24 02:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] I2r horizons event on. Not quite barcampy :-(Aug 24 02:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Stay tuned for Cuba, Germany, Iran, Afghanistan, Poland, France, Turkey, Romania, Rwanda, ...Aug 24 02:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Why does Oracle get two speakers as keynote at I2R Horizons event evrn though they are not sponsors? #fbAug 24 02:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks RELEASE: Muammar al-Qadhafi's congratulatory message to Obama http://t.co/qUP3eZ9Aug 24 02:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Gaddafi: Dear Obama, I have the pleasure to send a congratulation note for the 1st time to an American president http://t.co/alMW0ANAug 24 02:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] IMPORTANT: tweet your Wikileaks cable finds/discoveries with the tag #wlfind ; note you can link to each paragraph!Aug 24 02:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] ANNOUNCE: WikiLeaks to release 35,000 US diplomatic cables todayAug 24 02:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Crowd source! Tweet your Wikileaks cable finds with the tag #wlfind ; you can link to each paragraph! (P) http://t.co/1Mv88QpAug 24 02:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Note what the New York TImes kept hidden from you! Western censorship at its best! #wlfindAug 24 02:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Wikileaks cable on what China govt told US about 2007 changes to reporting regulations for foreign journalists http://t.co/8CpVcwd #wlfindAug 24 02:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] U.S. companies win billion worth of infrastructure contracts as reward for political relationship. #wlfind http://t.co/CDbZtNQAug 24 03:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Lets show the world what crowd sourcing can pull off by sifting through the new #wlfind cables in record time http://t.co/1Mv88QpAug 24 03:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Privatization of Libya's central bank seen as opportunity by U.S. government for American banks. #wlfind http://t.co/gjGZbpDAug 24 03:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Gaddafi-McCain chat on US firms selling lethal weapons to Libya: http://t.co/pQXXHl0 #wlfindAug 24 03:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Wal-mart has Unions in China, but not in the U.S. http://t.co/uVlHqZE #wlfind #wikileaks #06BEIJING17771Aug 24 03:30
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Diablo-D3hehAug 24 03:30
Diablo-D3thats not entirely trueAug 24 03:30
Diablo-D3there are no unions in chinaAug 24 03:30
Diablo-D3if they do something someone rich or the government doesnt likeAug 24 03:31
Diablo-D3they get endedAug 24 03:31
Diablo-D3its all smoke and mirrorsAug 24 03:31
Diablo-D3so no, wikileaks, walmart doesnt have unions in china eitherAug 24 03:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Tibetans to be divided by artificial divisions that have been created among Tibetan administrative regions http://t.co/NJPDnP2 #wlfindAug 24 03:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] US embassies asked to monitor Gaddafi's communications with other Arab leaders through Arab press: http://t.co/5um04GG #wlfindAug 24 03:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @Asher_Wolf: The #wlfind is an amazing hashtag to be following right now.Aug 24 03:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Helping @wikileaks crowd source tonight? Use this URL shortner: http://t.co/6zaMN4y #wlfindAug 24 03:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[swt/@swt] Wikileaks libero 35 000 cables sobre USA. Qué buena noticia, para subir los animos por la mala noticia de los 5GiB perdidos :S :( !wikileaksAug 24 04:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] ♻ @x11r5: @speeddefrost Sun came out today. Again. Boy are we in a weekAug 24 04:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @dawn_: My round-up of State Department Cables of Interest on Latin America, Released July 24 - Aug 21 http://t.co/prAkK0c #wlfindAug 24 04:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @osamak: A petition for This American Life to use Ogg Vorbis: http://ur1.ca/4ygg4 We're aiming for 5,000 signatures in 2 weeks! #playoggAug 24 04:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Colossally late.Aug 24 05:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] 3947/-Aug 24 05:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @snapl: There's one nice thing about dealing with XML: You can bitch about dealing with XML and everyone nods with solemn approval.Aug 24 05:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] British American Insurance IPO grossly under subscribed. !kenya #nseAug 24 05:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] @eebrah Morning, YGM. GMail [1]Aug 24 05:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @fsf A petition for This American Life to use Ogg Vorbis: http://ur1.ca/4ygg4 We're aiming for 5,000 signatures in 2 weeks! !fsf !pla ...Aug 24 05:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @maloki: Good morning people in and out of the !identiverseAug 24 05:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Simpler slides are important! #i2rAug 24 06:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] The spoken web. #i2r http://ur1.ca/4yjiiAug 24 06:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Eid in 6 daysAug 24 06:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Solid case against Tony Tan http://furrybrowndog.wordpress.com/2011/08/24/a-non-partisan-case-against-tony-tan-as-president/ #fb #sgpoliticsAug 24 06:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @marjoleink: Good morning, dear Laconicats!Aug 24 07:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] presentation about Experiences porting !KVM to !SmartOS by @bcantrill http://is.gd/Mfi9zy #dtrace #solaris #illumosAug 24 07:12
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/81488004Aug 24 07:25
TechrightsBot-tr@Kahlil Johnson (jza)'s status on Wednesday, 24-Aug-11 03:20:51 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz ah I see webos wasnt completely FLOSS but http://opensource.palm.com/3.0.2/index.htmlAug 24 07:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @jdub "Perhaps the penny is beginning to drop: Our IP system is a nightmare" goo.gl/Oc0U6Aug 24 07:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Encoding !techbytes episode 58. It takes about 5-6 hours for three versions.Aug 24 07:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @rahulsundaram FUDCon India Aug 23rd 2011 face to face meeting minutes http://bit.ly/mUqhES #fudconin11 !FedoraAug 24 07:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !Fedora 16 Alpha is now releasedAug 24 07:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] First Look at Poseidon Linux, the Linux For Scientists http://ur1.ca/4yjt4 "designed for the international scientific community"Aug 24 07:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Vista 7 a Battery Hog Compared to GNU/Linux http://ur1.ca/4yjtc #gnu #linux #energy #vista7Aug 24 07:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #LinuxMint 11 #LXDE review http://ur1.ca/4yjtu "released August 16, 2011."Aug 24 08:02
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schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/81502528Aug 24 08:04
TechrightsBot-tr@Emil I K (wachsmuth)'s status on Wednesday, 24-Aug-11 06:56:24 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz And that was one of the most bloated distros, even. !linuxAug 24 08:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] What GNOME Can Learn from KDE's Recovery http://ur1.ca/4yjud !kde #gnomeAug 24 08:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @wikileaks: Gaddafi:"Dear Obama, I have the pleasure to send a congratulation note for the 1st time to an American.." http://t.co/alMW0ANAug 24 08:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @wikileaks: ANNOUNCE: WikiLeaks to release 35,000 US diplomatic cables todayAug 24 08:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @SenatorSanders: "@ExxonMobil made more money last quarter than any company in the history of money." @BillMcKibben http://ow.ly/6azxgAug 24 08:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[hisdudeness/@hisdudeness] RT @ThilinaRa Today !wikileaks will release 35,000 US diplomatic cables. Follow hashtag #wlfindAug 24 08:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] They got Iraq, they got Libya. Where else is there oil and easy occupation route? :/Aug 24 08:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @wikileaks: U.S. companies win $2 billion worth of infrastructure contracts as reward for "political relationship." http://t.co/CDbZtNQAug 24 08:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @einfeldt: RT @sjvn: RT @lizzwinstead: Worst. Rapture. Ever. #EarthquakeAug 24 08:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @wikileaks: Privatization of Libya's central bank seen as "opportunity" by U.S. government for American banks. http://t.co/gjGZbpDAug 24 08:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @wikileaks: Gaddafi-McCain chat on US firms selling lethal weapons to Libya: http://t.co/pQXXHl0 #wlfindAug 24 08:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @wikileaks: US embassies asked to monitor Gaddafi's communications with other Arab leaders through Arab press: http://t.co/5um04GG #wlfindAug 24 08:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The West's worst nightmare: Oil Nations realising that they don't need to trade in US dollars. "Behead all those who diss the USD" /sarcasmAug 24 08:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] New !fellowship interview with Richard Shipman http://ur1.ca/4yjvp #Aberystwyth #FOSDEM #arduino !fsAug 24 08:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Why have you switched to GNU/Linux? http://ur1.ca/4yjwg for me, it was to get "Real Work"^TM doneAug 24 08:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Walkman: Powered by Linux http://ur1.ca/4yjx4 #Linux #Android #WalkmanAug 24 08:22
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schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/CarlaSchroder/status/106262533228335104?iid=am-130280753913141699370133942&nid=4+status_timestamp&uid=26603208Aug 24 08:23
TechrightsBot-tr@CarlaSchroder: @schestowitz Canada.Aug 24 08:23
schestowitzIt can be entered peacefully (NAFTA)Aug 24 08:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] WARNING: if you want to install malicious software on your phone, you CAN. *gasp* http://ur1.ca/4yjxg #fudAug 24 08:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @screwtape Today I learned about the 'joinspaces' option that controls whether !Vim adds two spaces after '.' '!' and '?' when joinin ...Aug 24 08:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] hide and seek? No, it's !InconstantMoon - Wednesday's serialization is online: http://ur1.ca/4yjxsAug 24 08:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @blondinrikard Man måste ha kvitto till sitt månadskort - och vice versa: http://ur1.ca/4yjr4 http://ur1.ca/4yjr7 annars blir man avs ...Aug 24 08:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] It's all in the language: what Murdoch et al. call "revolutionaries" (in Egypt, Libya) here we would call "domestic terrorists". #ukriotsAug 24 08:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @schestowitz ♻ @wikileaks: ANNOUNCE: WikiLeaks to release 35,000 US diplomatic cables todayAug 24 08:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @anivar: RT @saikatd: One question? Why do movements started in the name of democracy, become so undemocratic?Aug 24 08:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The Asus Transformer Is Now Available For $349 At Walmart http://ur1.ca/4yjz2 #asus #linuxAug 24 08:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] A Look at What's New in !Fedora 16 http://ur1.ca/4yjzgAug 24 08:38
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schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/81505343Aug 24 08:39
TechrightsBot-tr@Laurel L. Russwurm (laurelrusswurm)'s status on Wednesday, 24-Aug-11 07:33:41 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz I hope my hard drive has enough room for today's 35,000 !WikiLeaks cablesAug 24 08:39
schestowitzThere are many mirrorsAug 24 08:39
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Metztli_IT/status/106266212656365568Aug 24 08:40
TechrightsBot-tr@Metztli_IT: .@schestowitz They got #Iraq, got #Libya. Where else is there oil & easy occupation route? :/☝ @ChavezCandanga in #Venezuela …via #Colombia?Aug 24 08:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] A lot is being said about OEMs forcing people to buy Windows, but what about the x86 abusive monopolist? http://ur1.ca/4qw0f #monopolyAug 24 08:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Seeing the awesome job done by fictional President Palmer (in "24"), I wonder why real prez hasn't managed to !freeBradley <fiction wins>Aug 24 08:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Famous last words: we spread democracy.Aug 24 08:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] A lot of people are not aware that "spread democracy " is Edward Bernay's old political PR campaign. They know it's a lie, it's still used.Aug 24 08:43
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/81505917Aug 24 08:44
TechrightsBot-tr@Laurel L. Russwurm (laurelrusswurm)'s status on Wednesday, 24-Aug-11 07:42:02 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz true.  but I still hope it all fits.  :) !wikiLeaks rocksAug 24 08:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "democracy slogan had swayed the public..he wondered whether this propaganda model could be employed during peace time." http://ur1.ca/07nozAug 24 08:45
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schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/laurelrusswurm/status/106270096472817664?iid=am-111949529413141717402142187&nid=4+status_timestamp&uid=26603208Aug 24 09:00
TechrightsBot-tr@laurelrusswurm: @schestowitz true. but I still hope it all fits. :) #wikiLeaks rocksAug 24 09:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] When we're at school they usually tell us, "Go back to the source to verify the facts." What they mean by "source" is the "news" (Murdoch).Aug 24 09:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "[E]quations are far more important, for politics are only a matter of present concern. A mathematical equation stands forever." -EinsteinAug 24 09:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] If one applies a poor standards test to "source", then the source is not data/fact. It's merely a derivative of it, i.e. lossy, inaccurate.Aug 24 09:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "[...] businesses threaten to move operations out. In effect, they checkmate democracy," said @rms http://ur1.ca/4yk4tAug 24 09:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] If a president does not pursue foreign energy resources, he or she will not get funding and thus effectively remove oneself from the system.Aug 24 09:12
MinceRgeekingsAug 24 09:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] dented ~200 times/day starting Dec. 2010 with !wikileaks rising. Lost interest in March 2011 when revolutions went rogue; they got hijacked.Aug 24 09:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @wikileaks: Crowd source! Tweet your Wikileaks cable finds with the tag #wlfind ; you can link to each paragraph! (P) http://t.co/1Mv88QpAug 24 09:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @wikileaks: Note what the New York TImes kept hidden from you! Western censorship at its best! #wlfindAug 24 09:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] morning, @expatpaul :)Aug 24 09:23
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/81509122Aug 24 09:29
TechrightsBot-tr@Laurel L. Russwurm (laurelrusswurm)'s status on Wednesday, 24-Aug-11 08:23:48 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz @rms businesses have been moving out in droves... maybe it's time for governments to stop pandering to businessAug 24 09:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] !fsf 's #Petition This American Life to use #Ogg #Vorbis http://ur1.ca/4yjq0 #rOggOnAug 24 09:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] i've pretty much given up on !identica search @chriswaterguyAug 24 09:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] @tekk Ah, the beautiful complications of the empty set.Aug 24 09:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @schestowitz ♻ @wikileaks: Note what the New York TImes kept hidden from you! Western censorship at its best! #wlfindAug 24 09:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] @fontana What is #afacebook ? Like a business card binder, but with pictures of people?Aug 24 09:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @schestowitz "[...] businesses threaten to move operations out. In effect, they checkmate democracy," said @rms http://ur1.ca/4yk4tAug 24 09:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] @fontana I seem to remember you mentioned #RedHat being involved in #LGPL, but wasn't #glibc the original licensor? The need came from #FSF?Aug 24 09:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] Only 4 weeks left until #softwarefreedomday !fsfe 's !fellowship group in #Bonn already anounced an activity #sfdAug 24 09:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] 000webhost + wput == FTW, free hosting with MySQL, PHP! makerblog.org is now online!Aug 24 09:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] @fontana Is #0 IBM and other h/w manufacturers accidentally making freeish software, #1 MS-led proprietary wave and #2 deliberate freeish?Aug 24 09:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] time to sleep... good night !identiverseAug 24 09:58
ariendjhello everyoneAug 24 10:00
ariendjin the german press ms florian is everywhere todayAug 24 10:01
ariendji read a quote from him in the "wirtschaftswoche" magazine this morning commenting on motogoogleAug 24 10:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @clacke no, you're way off :-)Aug 24 10:02
ariendjthen there's thishttp://fosspatents.blogspot.com/Aug 24 10:02
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ariendj"Samsung cites Stanley Kubrick's '2001: A Space Odyssey' movie as prior art against iPad design patent"Aug 24 10:02
ariendjand heise in germany takes it and runs with itAug 24 10:03
ariendjthis guy is all over the place here in germanyAug 24 10:03
ariendjhe's getting on my nervesAug 24 10:03
ariendjmsflorian is spinning the story to "ooh look kooky samsung reverts to kooky scenes from old sf films for their prior art"Aug 24 10:05
ariendjwhy isn't there a debate about the look of apple's table being patented at all?Aug 24 10:06
ariendjwhere's the innovation in an aluminium rectangle around a display behind glass?Aug 24 10:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] I hope the new President Tan will ask the government to review the value & continued existance of the People's Association. #sgpolitics #fbAug 24 10:08
MinceRmaybe the innovation is in presenting that as an "innovation"Aug 24 10:08
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ariendjnow there's some innovation ;)Aug 24 10:10
ariendj"Whether or not Samsung will succeed, the mere fact that they proffer this kind of evidence is remarkable and will be exciting for many fans of movies in general -- and of that movie in particular -- to find out about."Aug 24 10:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Worth thinking about: http://yawningbread.wordpress.com/2011/08/24/sack-hdb-disband-peoples-association/ #sgpolitics #fbAug 24 10:10
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schestowitzThe lobbyists is aleays at itAug 24 10:11
schestowitzWe labelled him lobbyistAug 24 10:11
schestowitzI exposed him many times and he threatened meAug 24 10:11
ariendjhe absolutely is oneAug 24 10:11
schestowitzHe has budgets on his sideAug 24 10:11
schestowitzLobbying... and AFAICT Microsoft PR is briefing himAug 24 10:12
schestowitzHe's their toolAug 24 10:12
ariendjhe only gets mentions in press outlets that are sensitive towards PR and lobbyingAug 24 10:12
schestowitzyesAug 24 10:12
schestowitzHe spams themAug 24 10:12
schestowitz!google florian cooks spin techrightsAug 24 10:12
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - How Microsoft Florian 'Cooks' Spin | Techrights | http://techrights.org/2011/04/16/how-mobbyists-operate/Aug 24 10:12
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - IRC: #boycottnovell @ FreeNode: April 16th, 2011 - Techrights | http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/irc-log-15042011-16042011.htmlAug 24 10:12
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - 2011 April 16 | Techrights | http://techrights.org/2011/04/16/Aug 24 10:12
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schestowitzHe's a very dangerous lobbyist, that's why many in the FOSS world antagonise himAug 24 10:13
schestowitzHe also calls himself FOSS patents to confuseAug 24 10:13
ariendjthis guy must be branded as a shill even further i thinkAug 24 10:13
schestowitzPretending he's on the "other side"Aug 24 10:13
ariendjhe gets way to much airtimeAug 24 10:13
schestowitzThe German Abramoff :-)Aug 24 10:13
ariendjheheAug 24 10:13
schestowitzWe menioned him in last night's show..Aug 24 10:14
schestowitzI'm uploading it ATM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCpLhjmmmzwAug 24 10:14
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schestowitzalso to youtube, but mainly techrightsAug 24 10:14
ariendjit annoys me most when he gets metioned as an "open source guy" like he's the voice of the communityAug 24 10:14
schestowitzLOLAug 24 10:14
schestowitzDoes he?Aug 24 10:14
schestowitzOr IP expert?Aug 24 10:14
ariendji'll be checking that podcast out laterAug 24 10:14
schestowitzI din't think he ever finished school/universityAug 24 10:14
ariendjyeah it's either open source guy or ip expertAug 24 10:15
schestowitzthat's what he calls himselfAug 24 10:15
schestowitzin emailsAug 24 10:15
ariendjmostly ip in the context of the patent warsAug 24 10:15
schestowitzAnd pretends to be against swpatsAug 24 10:15
schestowitzWhile pushing themAug 24 10:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] RT @fontana @bkuhn That's precisely it. #GooglePlus is the medium of the #Establishment. Even you are there by virtue of refusing to be ...Aug 24 10:15
schestowitzHe uses his old site to pretend to be his oppositionAug 24 10:15
schestowitzAnd he gets caught lying/distorting alll the timeAug 24 10:15
ariendjwhat's his old site then? is that fosspatents?Aug 24 10:16
schestowitzAnd when I point it out he threatens to sueAug 24 10:16
schestowitzno, nosoftwarepatentsAug 24 10:16
schestowitzHe was paid to do thisAug 24 10:16
schestowitzHe's up for hire all the timeAug 24 10:16
schestowitzNow he's most busy attacking AndroidAug 24 10:16
schestowitzHe doesn't blog muchAug 24 10:16
schestowitzHe blogs a littleAug 24 10:16
schestowitzThen spends the rest of the time pressuring journosAug 24 10:17
schestowitzPretending to be a big shotAug 24 10:17
schestowitzAnd then telling them how fabulous he is and shows them where he was quoted *after he had lobbied other journalists)Aug 24 10:17
schestowitzSo they keep printing his nameAug 24 10:17
schestowitzRaises his lobbyist market valueAug 24 10:17
ariendji read about his real madrid gigAug 24 10:18
ariendjseems as though he'll peddle anyones opinion if the price is rightAug 24 10:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] RT @webmink @lxoliva I think the frame from which you operate differs as it's almost impossible to discuss with you without you attacking.Aug 24 10:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] RT @webmink @lxoliva Is this the five minute argument, or did you want to buy the full half hour?Aug 24 10:25
schestowitzHis business model is reality distortion fieldAug 24 10:25
schestowitzNot objective analysisAug 24 10:25
schestowitzHe never published in journals AFAIK, he's a lobbyistAug 24 10:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[docufoundation/@docufoundation] Election Announcement for The Document Foundation Board of Directors: http://is.gd/KVtzNb !libo !tdfAug 24 10:27
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ariendjwirtschaftswoche, wich is a sort of "buisness week" in germany, has quoted him in 7 articles recentlyAug 24 10:27
ariendj"der deutsche Patentexperte Florian Müller" is how he is describedAug 24 10:28
ariendjwirtschaftswoche editors seem to be very lazy peopleAug 24 10:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] I just donated 20 EUR to 000webhost.com - their free service is a dream come true for me. Now I can simply take some of... http://b1t.it/xJNAug 24 10:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] RT @bkuhn This conversation reminds me of vegan t-shirt:"Yes, I'm a vegan. No, my shoes aren't leather. Yes, I get enough protein. Yes, ...Aug 24 10:30
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schestowitzThat's utter BSAug 24 10:31
schestowitzHe's not even an exprtAug 24 10:31
schestowitzHe's a pretender, and a BS artist tooAug 24 10:31
schestowitzLats year he was reading all my analyses from other the yearsAug 24 10:31
schestowitzTo learn what he never quite kept track of while lobbying for SOCCERAug 24 10:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] I'd love to get this for my car. But I don't think they have a model that would fit into a Renault :-( http://www.dynavin.com/ #fbAug 24 10:32
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schestowitzAnd now he pretends to know everything, daemonising every single entity associated with LinuxAug 24 10:32
schestowitzHe works alongside with some Microsoft MVP, MS lawyers, etc. They use his name like a trademark to push their rubbishAug 24 10:32
schestowitzAnd to distract the news away from Android successAug 24 10:33
schestowitzEsp. when there is good newsAug 24 10:33
schestowitzIt's just a peripheryAug 24 10:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Bold statements and double negatives from the Vice President of Microsoft communications - http://goo.gl/gP1r3 #microsoft #windows #wp7 #mvpAug 24 10:35
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schestowitzhttp://i.imgur.com/b60Ij.jpgAug 24 10:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Stand back" [IMG] http://i.imgur.com/NcfSN.jpgAug 24 10:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Germany - between privacy panic and censorship by GEMA the only good thing remaining is the beer, Haxn and Grünkohl IMHO.Aug 24 10:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] RT @rahulsundaram @lxoliva The whole basis of Naughton's article is FUD against GPL and Google because of Android. Not to point out an ...Aug 24 10:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links – Deepwater Horizon Spews, Big Boats, RMS on Unitary Patents http://ur1.ca/4ykm7 !techrightsAug 24 10:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Links – Deepwater Horizon Spews, Big Boats, RMS on Unitary Patents http://ur1.ca/4ykm7 #techrightsAug 24 10:47
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ariendjthis morning i was rather freaked out to find florian all over the german pressAug 24 10:50
ariendjthe more i think about it i get the impression that this is because ms is losing on all frontsAug 24 10:51
ariendjnot because they are so popular that magazines go and ask them what their favorite shill is to get a quote from himAug 24 10:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] TechBytes Episode 58: HP’s 180, Google’s New Patents, and the New GIMP http://ur1.ca/4ykn4 !techrightsAug 24 10:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] TechBytes Episode 58: HP’s 180, Google’s New Patents, and the New GIMP http://ur1.ca/4ykn4 !techbytesAug 24 10:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bytesmedia/@bytesmedia] TechBytes Episode 58: HP’s 180, Google’s New Patents, and the New GIMP http://ur1.ca/4ykn4 #techbytesAug 24 10:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[techbytes/@techbytes] TechBytes Episode 58: HP’s 180, Google’s New Patents, and the New GIMP http://ur1.ca/4ykn4Aug 24 10:52
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ariendji guess judged their press coverage as a success when in reality it might very well just be damage controlAug 24 10:52
schestowitzCRAPAug 24 10:55
schestowitzmy grandpa just bought a hypePad. I'm ashamed.Aug 24 10:55
schestowitzariendj:they don't go to FlorianAug 24 10:55
schestowitzHe goes to themAug 24 10:55
schestowitzHe's an attention whore, see what Groklaw wroteAug 24 10:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Hey, Samsung - check this: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1381528/Knight-Ridder-tablet-looks-just-like-... http://b1t.it/xJ6Aug 24 11:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] In fact, it is not about pseudonyms but all about nicknames IMHO. #justsayin #nymwarsAug 24 11:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] sitting in the airport in Taipei waiting to start the long haul back home ...Aug 24 11:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] We are currently under a sustained DOS attack and have regressed to backup servers. We are fighting to bring up more new servers.Aug 24 11:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] /me making #rainbows #blueAug 24 11:52
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MinceRhttp://www.dilbert.com/2005-11-18/Aug 24 12:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Are state directed Denial of Service attacks, legally, a war crime against civilian infrastructure?Aug 24 12:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Should we, legally, declare war on state agressors that commit infrastructure war crimes against us?Aug 24 12:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Note how DOS attacks on WikiLeaks are not investigated but DOS attacks on corrupt finance companies lead to dozens of arrests.Aug 24 12:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] London 2012 logo looks like a humping man and the mascots like bottle openers.Aug 24 12:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] ♻ @wikileaks2: Note how DOS attacks on WikiLeaks are not investigated but DOS attacks on corrupt finance companies lead to dozens of arrestsAug 24 12:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] anyone know how to nudge the font size up a touch in #Turpial?Aug 24 12:20
MinceRhttp://www.dilbert.com/2005-12-04/Aug 24 12:25
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DrumScumexperimenting with ipv6 atmAug 24 12:27
DrumScuma client at work is going ipv6 on his hardwareAug 24 12:27
DrumScumughAug 24 12:27
DrumScumapparently you get a /48 with sixxsAug 24 12:28
DrumScumwhich is like 65k /64 blocksAug 24 12:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] Mit dem #foebud nach #bxl. Mehr dazu auf fsfe-de@fsfeurope.org unter http://ur1.ca/4yl2nAug 24 12:28
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DrumScumthat's an awful lot of addreses O_oAug 24 12:29
DrumScumstill don't understand it all though...Aug 24 12:29
DrumScumit appears that just one address in each block is routableAug 24 12:30
DrumScumhm...Aug 24 12:31
DrumScumchallengingAug 24 12:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks Libya: 349 new US embassy cables released in searchable format http://t.co/XJjvcVFAug 24 12:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Hyper-V: Microsoft Virus (and Tax) Inside GNU/Linux http://ur1.ca/4yl35 #hyperv #china #gnu #linux #suse #novell #vmAug 24 12:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Hyper-V: Microsoft Virus (and Tax) Inside GNU/Linux http://ur1.ca/4yl35 #swpats #linuxtax #hypervisor !gnu !linuxAug 24 12:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks China: 3,004 new US embassy cables released in searchable format! http://t.co/BEqiAddAug 24 12:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks China-Taiwan: 2,170 new US embassy cables released in searchable format! http://t.co/QFptxwZAug 24 12:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] 268 days of cablegate. 260 days of Julian Assange detained under house arrest without charge. http://t.co/LtjzHssAug 24 12:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] New Copyright FUD Against Java/Linux (Android) http://ur1.ca/4yl5p #swpats #google #fud #copyright #microsoft #lobbyingAug 24 12:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] New Copyright FUD Against Java/Linux (Android) http://ur1.ca/4yl5p #java #linux #google #smartphone #api #progammingAug 24 12:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] 268 days of cablegate. 260 days of unlawful economic warfare against WikiLeaks http://t.co/keJ07BGAug 24 12:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] #Apple is once more the trendsetter. Who needed those pesky little passwords anyhow? Way too user-unfriendly! http://is.gd/DWJVrA #wtf #failAug 24 12:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Smartphones: the New Home of Crapware http://is.gd/LuNgJ3Aug 24 13:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] OpenLeaks finally admits to being code stolen from WikiLeaks http://t.co/IqspTZJAug 24 13:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] HP Falls Like a Rock and Microsoft Rejoices Amid Decline of HP’s Linux http://ur1.ca/4yl93 #hp #webos #microsoft #android #ubuntuAug 24 13:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] HP Falls Like a Rock and Microsoft Rejoices Amid Decline of HP’s Linux http://ur1.ca/4yl93 #hurd #palm #pre #webos #TouchPadAug 24 13:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Red Hat and Open to the rescue! http://www.redhat.com/customersuccess/finnish-city-of-kankaanpaa-cuts-costs-with-rhevAug 24 13:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !TechBytes Episode 58: August News and Social Networks http://ur1.ca/4yl9b another mirror. Show notes up later...Aug 24 13:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] So many iPads from 2002 - Transmeta was pushing them, if you forgot. http://www.pcworld.com/article/106758/tablet_pcs_hit_the_shelves.htmlAug 24 13:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] RT @andyc @ddevine All this talk of valued, esteemed 'open source folk' departing identi.ca for G+ is bollocks. They were all on Twitter ...Aug 24 13:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Potentially Illegal Exclusion of Free Software in European Governments http://ur1.ca/4ylbl #egov #foss #freedom #uk #romaniaAug 24 13:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Potentially Illegal Exclusion of Free Software in European Governments http://ur1.ca/4ylbl #freesoftware #gb #procurement #lockinAug 24 13:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Windows 8 Explorer: improved copy, delete, and conflict resolution (ExtremeTech): http://bit.ly/nQDG2ZAug 24 13:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Also not an iPad. The Sahara Slate from 2007. http://www.senecadata.com/Partner/Products/Mobile/Tablets/TabletKiosk/Sah... http://b1t.it/xL0Aug 24 14:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Oracle quadruples capacity of virtualization software: Oracle VM now support up to 128 virtual CPUs (InfoWorld): http://bit.ly/qZNMEoAug 24 14:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] We are still battling the DOS attack. Some routes are now functional.Aug 24 14:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Eucalyptus gets high-availability protection (Network World): http://bit.ly/pKrj8SAug 24 14:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Our Californian DNS hoster, Dynadot, has received a PATRIOT act production order for information on Julian Assange. It has complied.Aug 24 14:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] VMware launches a developer edition for cloud service, Cloud Foundry, that can run on a laptop (Network World): http://bit.ly/ptfYXsAug 24 14:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Gates Monitor: April 2011 Press Distortion http://ur1.ca/4ylf3 #billgates #gatesfoundation #journalism #plutocracyAug 24 14:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Gates Monitor: April 2011 Press Distortion http://ur1.ca/4ylf3 #churnalism #conflict #philanthropy #religion #madonna #bonoAug 24 14:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] The production order seeks all available information on Julian Assange and WikiLeaks, for the US grand jury in Alexandria, Washington.Aug 24 14:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] NYT: Technology Devices Either Sell Big or Die Fast: http://nyti.ms/r1JDak (RT @JDNWW)Aug 24 14:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RELEASE: 3,925 US-Israel diplomatic cables http://t.co/ZsG613G #wlfindAug 24 14:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] "Quake sensors removed around Virginia nuke plant due to budget cuts" - http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/08/23/virginia-... http://b1t.it/xMlAug 24 14:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RELEASE: 2,226 US-Russia diplomatic cables http://t.co/v3x7qFKAug 24 14:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] discovered last night that there is a DPI setting in the fonts control panel. nicely done !kde :)Aug 24 14:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RELEASE: 624 US-Venezuala cables http://t.co/ErvcAljAug 24 14:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Dutch court stops Samsung from selling Galaxy phones S, S II and Ace in europe. but note: Apples claims on design paten... http://b1t.it/xMqAug 24 14:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RELEASE: 1,901 US-Iran diplomatic cables http://t.co/4nTYj2WAug 24 14:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Indian Voices Against Bill Gates’ Colonisation of the Country With Patents, Monopolies http://ur1.ca/4ylj3 #monsanto #gmoAug 24 14:47
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/GaryArmstrong/status/106348236796731393Aug 24 14:49
TechrightsBot-tr@GaryArmstrong: This makes sense "@schestowitz: HP Falls & Microsoft Rejoices Decline HP’s Linux http://t.co/sDanGUM #hp #webos #microsoft #android #ubuntu"Aug 24 14:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Indian Voices Against Bill Gates’ Colonisation of the Country With Patents, Monopolies http://ur1.ca/4ylj3 #monsanto #patent #monopolyAug 24 14:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @wikileaks We are currently under a sustained DOS attack and have regressed to backup servers. We are fighting to bring up...Aug 24 14:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @wikileaks: Are state directed Denial of Service attacks, legally, a war crime against civilian infrastructure?Aug 24 14:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RELEASE: 1,525 US-German diplomatic cables http://t.co/pssLAdYAug 24 14:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @wikileaks: Should we, legally, declare war on state agressors that commit infrastructure war crimes against us?Aug 24 14:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @wikileaks: Note how DOS attacks on WikiLeaks are not investigated but DOS attacks on corrupt finance companies lead to dozens of arrests.Aug 24 14:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻@Eithin Let us all applaud David Cameron's brave and difficult decision to resume his 5th holiday and spare us the burden of his leadershipAug 24 14:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @wikileaks: 268 days of cablegate. 260 days of Julian Assange detained under house arrest without charge. http://t.co/LtjzHssAug 24 14:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @wikileaks: 268 days of cablegate. 260 days of unlawful economic warfare against WikiLeaks http://t.co/keJ07BGAug 24 14:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @wikileaks: Our Californian DNS hoster, Dynadot, has received a PATRIOT act production order for information on Julian Assange.Aug 24 14:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @wikileaks: The production order seeks all available information on Julian Assange and WikiLeaks, for the US grand jury in Alexandria...Aug 24 14:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Apple LOST it's claim on design in NL, wins with EP 2.059.868 claim. http://webwereld.nl/nieuws/107696/rechtbank-de... http://b1t.it/xMwAug 24 14:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] You can read about our idea on Data Governance for the Moore Fndn at http://ideascale.com/t/UD7rZK4S. More info: http://bit.ly/pChqkUAug 24 14:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RELEASE: 2,965 US-Afghanistan diplomatic cables http://t.co/fqg3YI5Aug 24 14:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @jwildeboer Apple LOST it's claim on design in NL, wins with EP 2.059.868 claim. http://ur1.ca/4ylki http://b1t.it/xMwAug 24 14:57
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/interopwiki/status/106363005683503106Aug 24 14:58
TechrightsBot-tr@interopwiki: Synthetic page on MSFT's political influence in Europe http://t.co/mhrVBWf Thank you @schestowitz #TechRights #interopwikiAug 24 14:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] A lot of #cablegate diplomatic cables are being released today. Vast amounts of *nuclear* material that changes how we view history. !wlAug 24 15:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @jwildeboer "Quake sensors removed around Virginia nuke plant due to budget cuts" ...Aug 24 15:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RELEASE: 2,331 US-France diplomatic cables http://t.co/4stQz3BAug 24 15:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] if you admin a kde list and got a bunch of unsub's today ... don't freak out! the new server is handling bounces, so those were dead addiesAug 24 15:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] good ol' ktown (how we will miss thee, dear friend!) just ignored bounces.Aug 24 15:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RELEASE: 1,860 US-Indonesia diplomatic cables http://t.co/9l8ICMSAug 24 15:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] "The big difference with open source software is that when any vulnerabilities are found, anybody can fix it." http://tinyurl.com/3exegg4Aug 24 15:07
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Technology News: ECT News Exclusives: Fighting the Good Global Cybercrime Fight: Q&A With Security Guru Mikko Hypponen, Part 2 .::. Size~: 66.64 KBAug 24 15:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RELEASE: 515 US-Rwanda diplomatic cables http://t.co/kexscyVAug 24 15:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Dutch court stops Samsung from selling Galaxy phones S, S II and Ace in europe. but note: Apples claims on design paten... http://b1t.it/xMqAug 24 15:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] Apple Lashes Out Against Other Tablets http://lxnews.org/2011/08/24/apple-lashes-out-against-tablets/Aug 24 15:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @m_cetera: Hey everyone, you know what's a good way to thank @wikileaks for kicking so much ass today? DONATE! http://t.co/mAimabAAug 24 15:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] #oggcamp episode of !tdtrs was very good I thought, though first listening attempt I fell asleep.Aug 24 15:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Aplle wins injunction against Samsung with a patent on managing pictures on a portable device. Finally the first big EU... http://b1t.it/xMLAug 24 15:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RELEASE: 5,677 US-Turkey diplomatic cables http://t.co/Z1k2iNuAug 24 15:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Inventing the future is everybody's job | http://red.ht/orQLEl #hackmanagement #community #innovationAug 24 15:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] RT @webmink Election Announcement for The Document Foundation Board of Directors: http://wmk.me/r9NLuIAug 24 15:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] Urgently Looking for a Job...Aug 24 15:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Coghlan: Of Python and Road Maps (or the lack thereof) http://lwn.net/Articles/456209/rssAug 24 15:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] 500 Posts http://lxnews.org/2011/08/24/500-posts/Aug 24 15:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] The knight-Ridder Newspad I showed today was used in the dutch Apple v Samsung case!Aug 24 15:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks is releasing 35,000+ new US diplomatic cables over the next 8 hours http://t.co/1Mv88QpAug 24 15:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @clacke Historical record suggests #Cygnus drafted #LGPL v2. OTOH, many hackers had previously criticized #FSF for putting libs under #GPL.Aug 24 15:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RELEASE: 946 US-Syria diplomatic cables http://t.co/s2XDdgPAug 24 15:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] RT @lxnews 500 Posts http://lxnews.org/2011/08/24/500-posts/Aug 24 15:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] RT @jwildeboer The knight-Ridder Newspad I showed today was used in the dutch Apple v Samsung case!Aug 24 15:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] RT @lxnews Apple Lashes Out Against Other Tablets http://lxnews.org/2011/08/24/apple-lashes-out-against-tablets/Aug 24 15:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] RT @jwildeboer Dutch court stops Samsung from selling Galaxy phones S, S II and Ace in europe. but note: Apples claims on design paten.. ...Aug 24 15:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Microsoft throws support behind USB 3.0 with Windows 8 (Network World): http://bit.ly/qwzo9RAug 24 15:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] Firefox 6 is Released, Nobody is Excited http://lxnews.org/2011/08/24/firefox-6-is-released/Aug 24 15:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] So Appl v Samsung in NL: Tab is freed from problems, smartphones need to fix a minor issue.Aug 24 15:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RELEASE: 547 US-Bahrain diplomatic cables http://t.co/Ju8QvzhAug 24 15:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Where Are Your Facebook Friends Sitting? Ticketmaster Tells You (Mashable): http://on.mash.to/p7N01RAug 24 15:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] New blog post: Samsung v Apple in NL: Happy selling, Samsung! http://jan.wildeboer.net/2011/08/samsung-v-apple-in-nl-happy-selling-samsung/Aug 24 15:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I thought we already knew about this risk? … or am I confused? ⚫ UPnP-enabled routers allow attacks on LANs - The H http://ping.fm/y1EeKAug 24 15:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Google TV 2.0 Runs Linux, Extensible http://ur1.ca/4yls5 #Google #linuxAug 24 15:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RELEASE: 446 US-Poland diplomatic cables http://t.co/GWrUNzAAug 24 15:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] @lxnews congratulations, Fabian!Aug 24 15:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Samsung need sto fix the picture scrolling and that's it. That's what the dutch court says.Aug 24 15:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RELEASE: 1,375 US-South Africa diplomatic cables http://t.co/NvcwttLAug 24 15:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Oral history of British !science In-depth oral history interviews documenting the lives http://goo.gl/MDrg4Aug 24 15:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !wl ⚫ President Sarkozy announced plans to tax internet advertising revenue generated by !Google http://goo.gl/pqjwLAug 24 15:55
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cubezzzwell schestowitz you were rightAug 24 15:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz Google TV 2.0 Runs Linux, Extensible http://ur1.ca/4yls5 #Google #linuxAug 24 15:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RELEASE: 727 US-Somalia diplomatic cables http://t.co/aOkAFd9Aug 24 15:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz Potentially Illegal Exclusion of Free Software in European Governments http://ur1.ca/4ylbl #egov #foss #freedom #uk #romaniaAug 24 15:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] HP Ditches Their PC Business, Kills WebOS http://lxnews.org/2011/08/24/hp-kills-webos/Aug 24 15:57
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cubezzzI'm seeing more traffic on youtube than on my blogAug 24 15:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @schestowitz A lot of #cablegate diplomatic cables are being released today. Vast amounts of *nuclear* material that changes how we v ...Aug 24 15:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Currently downloading from Vodo: "Beyond the Game" - A Warcraft documentary. http://vodo.net/beyondthegame #warcraft #creativecommonsAug 24 15:58
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schestowitzHehe http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwUATTz2CGE&feature=digestAug 24 15:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Humour: Kim Jong-Il 2012 http://ur1.ca/4yltxAug 24 16:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RELEASE: 599 US-Yemen diplomatic cables http://t.co/yKL1L28Aug 24 16:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #androinica: #Samsung details their phone naming system and debuts 4 new !Android phones http://goo.gl/URgCZAug 24 16:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] RT @p2pu: P2PU announces the launch of the School of Education pilot. A hugely exciting day for all of us.... http://t.co/OHqx7fkAug 24 16:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Rick Spencer: A Photobomb Sale! http://goo.gl/CIF99Aug 24 16:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] RT @lxnews HP Ditches Their PC Business, Kills WebOS http://lxnews.org/2011/08/24/hp-kills-webos/Aug 24 16:03
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Raving Rick: A Photobomb Sale! .::. Size~: 45.37 KBAug 24 16:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Four ways Summer of Smart has reinvented civic hackathons by @CivicInnovation with @GAFFTA | http://red.ht/p0pKVO #gov20 #opengovAug 24 16:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] Google Buys Motorola http://lxnews.org/2011/08/24/google-buys-motorola/Aug 24 16:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] http://blog.xkcd.com/2011/08/24/earthquakes/ good job guys. we helped prove randall rightAug 24 16:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Jan Wildeboer: #Samsung v #Apple in NL: Happy selling, Samsung! http://goo.gl/HB1IJAug 24 16:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Full new WikiLeaks 55,000+ new cable release available by bittorrent http://t.co/MUkcYXMAug 24 16:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] I'm becoming more & more persuaded to vote Jee Say over Cheng Bock. GE11 broke the fear factor. PE11 will be SG's Spring. #fb #sgpoliticsAug 24 16:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RD @kuro #Cooking may be 1.9m years old, say scientists http://is.gd/Meqmv6 commonplace among Homo erectus #scienceAug 24 16:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] New video: "conditioned for war" http://ur1.ca/4ylw3Aug 24 16:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] As !problematic as #NewYork's subway has become in these latter days, at times like this it would be useful.Aug 24 16:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] N9 MeeGo Phone Not Coming to the US http://lxnews.org/2011/08/24/n9-not-coming-to-the-us/Aug 24 16:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Links 24/8/2011: Fedora 16 Alpha, South Korean Government Wants Own Free/Libre OS http://ur1.ca/4ylwn #techrightsAug 24 16:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I think !Google had more than patents in mind when they bought Motorola - we'll seeAug 24 16:18
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Links 24/8/2011: Fedora 16 Alpha, South Korean Government Wants Own Free/Libre OS | Techrights .::. Size~: 113.19 KBAug 24 16:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] RT @freemusicarchiv: Bluegrass from Liverpool: Shake That Little Foot http://t.co/fM2g6JU (via @larryni) #ccmusic from 1993Aug 24 16:20
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/haloefekti/status/106383393595473920Aug 24 16:21
TechrightsBot-tr@analiensaturn: Elites, we are millions and millions and we're coming to get you.Aug 24 16:21
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/haloefekti/status/106383526999494656Aug 24 16:21
TechrightsBot-tr@SyriaParliament: Ben Ali is done. Mubarak is done, Ghadaffi is almost done. #Assad & Saleh are next. Arab spring cleaning. #Syria #Egypt #Tunis #Libya #YemenAug 24 16:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 24/8/2011: Fedora 16 Alpha, South Korean Government Wants Own Free/Libre OS http://ur1.ca/4ylwnAug 24 16:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @wikileaks: WikiLeaks is releasing 35,000+ new US diplomatic cables over the next 8 hours http://t.co/1Mv88QpAug 24 16:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Updated my Apple v Samsung blogpost at http://jan.wildeboer.net/2011/08/samsung-v-apple-in-nl-happy-selling-samsung/Aug 24 16:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @wikileaks: Full new WikiLeaks 55,000+ new cable release available by bittorrent http://t.co/MUkcYXM // cc @laurelrusswurmAug 24 16:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻@OpManning As we are swept up in excitement over wikileaks releasing thousands of cables,the alleged whistleblower sits in prison forgottenAug 24 16:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] RT @jwildeboer Updated my Apple v Samsung blogpost at http://jan.wildeboer.net/2011/08/samsung-v-apple-in-nl-happy-selling-samsung/Aug 24 16:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] On the back of lots of Android FUD from lobbyists and PR spinners, the Microsoft booster Ed Hansberry floats rumours of Windows defectionsAug 24 16:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] RT @lxnews N9 MeeGo Phone Not Coming to the US http://lxnews.org/2011/08/24/n9-not-coming-to-the-us/Aug 24 16:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Now I really want the tablet apple tried to ban… :)Aug 24 16:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @cdaffara and a common "friend" claimed a terrible blow-"first enforced patent against android". Let's hope all are like this :-)Aug 24 16:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Android will eat your kids" -Love,Aug 24 16:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Android will eat your kids" -Love, your friends at Microsoft.Aug 24 16:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] Apple Looses Against Samsung in the Netherlands http://lxnews.org/2011/08/24/apple-looses-in-the-netherlands/Aug 24 16:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] just pulled my disk with / and /home from my server in case the room gets flooded #YayForHomeSysadminAug 24 16:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !WikiLeaks Hit With DOS Attack as It Releases Tens of Thousands of Cable http://ur1.ca/4ylyr burying the truthAug 24 16:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @MaxNasti #wlfind is the epitome of what makes Twitter awesome. Realtime cooperative effort of sifting through leaked cables to see...Aug 24 16:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] UN, Redcross confirm being attacked by #Israeli military during 2008 war on Gaza http://t.co/hqCC6lC #wlfindAug 24 16:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] #wlfind Kidnapping of Knight Ridder journalists, Dion Nissenbaum & Adam Pletts http://t.co/qEDaY4zAug 24 16:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Portal: No Escape http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4drucg1A6XkAug 24 16:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Samsung Cites Kubrick's '2001' Film as Prior Art Defense Against Apple's Injunction Request http://is.gd/CMFPQ4Aug 24 16:43
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schestowitz_Goblin: Aug 24 16:44
schestowitz> I just discovered that captions are available with Tech Bytes and I willAug 24 16:44
schestowitz> make good use of them, as my hearing is awful and I have difficultyAug 24 16:44
schestowitz> understanding the dialogue otherwise.Aug 24 16:44
schestowitz> Aug 24 16:44
schestowitz> By the way, were captions always available to viewers or did you add thatAug 24 16:44
schestowitz> feature recently? Aug 24 16:44
schestowitz> Aug 24 16:44
schestowitz> Later I will check out the series you sent.Aug 24 16:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Fukushima robot operator publishes tell-all diaries and videos, now offline http://is.gd/k8BinVAug 24 16:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Retired Russian cop arrested on suspicion of organizing execution of journalist Anna Politkovskaya http://is.gd/sfXrymAug 24 16:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Torture of dissidents in Bahrain enabled by Nokia Siemens, charges Bloomberg report http://is.gd/cLbpOkAug 24 16:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] RT @350: 350.org just released all its secrets for hosting kick-ass activist workshops, all under @creativecommons: http://t.co/qG6gqKgAug 24 16:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Chinese Propaganda Accidentally Reveals Cyberwar http://is.gd/aXWTUZAug 24 16:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Anonymous Breaches Another US Defense Contractor http://is.gd/VAEUoKAug 24 16:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Trollface restaurant http://is.gd/7gL5uPAug 24 16:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Libya’s top-level domain, .ly, defaced by “Muslim Hackers” http://is.gd/KqFTirAug 24 16:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] Judge Reinhold! http://youtu.be/66aqcOsnP2E #youtubeAug 24 16:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @kgosztola: US diplomats kowtowing for US pharmaceutical companies in France http://t.co/bL2QDns #wlfindAug 24 16:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @fsf Send your nominations for the Nordic Free Software Award to be held @fscons in Gothenberg, Sweden! http://ur1.ca/4yffq !fscons ! ...Aug 24 16:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Shared a post "Apple has lost their patent infringement case against Samsung in the Netherlands." https://plus.google.c... http://b1t.it/xNrAug 24 16:55
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DrumScumyayAug 24 16:56
DrumScumon irc with ipv6Aug 24 16:56
*DrumScum is now known as AfkScumAug 24 16:56
*AfkScum afkAug 24 16:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] #wlfind Thin-skinned Mbeki will require deft handling - US Embassy http://t.co/1WTo5wuAug 24 16:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @jwildeboer Shared a post "Apple has lost their patent infringement case against Samsung in the Netherlands." https://plus.google.c.. ...Aug 24 16:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] #wlfind Turkey: Americans, homosexuals & bikinis not welcome here http://t.co/bZp9m7qAug 24 17:00
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schestowitzhmm... can't get captions to work. I did enable this in the settings, even for automatic captioning, but no go...Aug 24 17:01
AfkScumhaha, as predicted yesterday in this very irc channel, some people are very happy with the gimp naming article :-DAug 24 17:03
*AfkScum is now known as DrumScumAug 24 17:04
DrumScumi personally think it's nonsenseAug 24 17:04
DrumScumgimp is a fine nameAug 24 17:05
DrumScumi mean, gnu image manipulation program anyone? :-pAug 24 17:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] #wlfind US wants to build dual-use facilities in Southern Philippines for use of US aircraft http://t.co/nd6zNkaAug 24 17:05
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DrumScumand of course there's the link with the lace artworkAug 24 17:09
DrumScumwhich is quite niceAug 24 17:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] #wlfind On behalf of Monsanto: US diplomat lobbies against French biotech bill that would regulate GMO http://t.co/JXRNcx7Aug 24 17:10
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DrumScumnever mind the BDSM connotation ;-)Aug 24 17:11
DrumScumalthough the gimp is your perfect slave for image manipulation :-pAug 24 17:11
DrumScumanyway, some people will whine about anythingAug 24 17:12
schestowitzWhen I hear GIMP I think of the program i work on graphics withAug 24 17:15
schestowitzOther people too can 'fix' their associationsAug 24 17:16
schestowitzsome people think of the wildbest when they hear gnuAug 24 17:16
schestowitzsome think hippiesAug 24 17:16
schestowitzSome think debianAug 24 17:16
schestowitzor development (gcc)Aug 24 17:16
schestowitzwhen people hear anarchy they think of crazed caped menAug 24 17:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] #wlfind Ethiopian Jewry in Israel: vast majority live in impoverished communities, where even menial work is scarce http://t.co/XJbH3OdAug 24 17:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] So with xxx TLDs, I could have xXx.straightXxXedge.xXx? !ICANN may get more scenesters than porn on .xxx (I'm excited for the combo) !sexAug 24 17:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] Finally filing my backlog of #CiviCRM bugs. Filing bugs is fun with such actively developed software :).Aug 24 17:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @m_cetera: Great to see the success of #WLFind. People care. And it's awesome.Aug 24 17:22
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iophkhttp://www.digitalpreservation.gov/ndsa/Aug 24 17:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Full US espionage investigation order against WikiLeaks http://t.co/F7rFyIJAug 24 17:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] As Windows XP Turns 10, It's Time to Say Goodbye http://tinyurl.com/3ep6w3g #xp #windows #linuxAug 24 17:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] #wlfind RT @theharryshearer: They were for Qaddafi before they were against him. McCain, Graham, Lieberman http://t.co/r8zmINKAug 24 17:30
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schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/swapnilbhartiya/status/106400021649432576?iid=am-27825118013142027167233572&nid=4+status_timestamp&uid=26603208Aug 24 17:34
TechrightsBot-tr@swapnilbhartiya: #BBC Twisted The #Samsung Ban Story, In Fact There Is NO Ban http://j.mp/p1r6I1 #apple #ipad @schestowitzAug 24 17:34
schestowitzhttps://plus.google.com/109027644713767623413/posts/dfc44LNqt1bAug 24 17:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] http://coffee.jezra.net/coffee/20110824 #sip_and_click POP POP POP!Aug 24 17:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] #wlfind UK: Afghan War is failing, 'young lives thrown away'. http://t.co/0rpZ0HBAug 24 17:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Kaka Sungura.Aug 24 17:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @andyc 'Does your bag really need that seat all to itself?'Aug 24 17:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT Asher_Wolf: Israel: Wave of sewerage engulfs Bedouin village, four killed, numerous injured http://t.co/MxK47eF #wlfindAug 24 17:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @Cam580: I've never fully appreciated the power of twitter until #wlfind .. Pretty amazingAug 24 17:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @meegoexperts Pidgin IM Client 2.10.0 Closes Holes http://mge.bz/kTAug 24 17:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] What to do when life kicks you in the nutsack ...Aug 24 17:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @meegoexperts Twitter Open Sources Bootstrap Web Front-End Toolkit News And Features http://mge.bz/kSAug 24 17:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @jwildeboer Shared a post "Apple has lost their patent infringement case against Samsung in the Netherlands." https://plus.google.c.. ...Aug 24 17:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz !WikiLeaks Hit With DOS Attack as It Releases Tens of Thousands of Cable http://ur1.ca/4ylyr burying the truthAug 24 17:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz ♻ @wikileaks: Full new WikiLeaks 55,000+ new cable release available by bittorrent http://t.co/MUkcYXM // cc @laurelrus ...Aug 24 17:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @Ben_Birnbaum: #Israel's ambassador to #Turkey: #Erdogan a fundamentalist, hates us religiously http://t.co/pAWrrZP #wlfindAug 24 17:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] US pressured UK to not to introduce a resolution in UNHRC proposing action on Goldstone report. http://t.co/GRWCGUB #wlfindAug 24 18:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @nj3ma Kaka Sungura.Aug 24 18:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @eebrah Take a deep breath. And wait the pain to wear off...Aug 24 18:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] TechBytes Audiocast – Episode 58 – 23/08/11 – “M.A.D” http://goo.gl/rY6LaAug 24 18:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] #Apple Loses Court Battle In #Europe, #Samsung Free To Sell #Galaxy Tabs http://www.muktware.com/news/2344 #swpats #mobile #romaniaAug 24 18:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz ♻ @wikileaks: Are state directed Denial of Service attacks, legally, a war crime against civilian infrastructure?Aug 24 18:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] RT @furny Get our first EP for free when you sign a petition in favor of free music formats for a public radio podcast. Details at http: ...Aug 24 18:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] RT @fsf A petition for This American Life to use Ogg Vorbis: http://ur1.ca/4ygg4 We're aiming for 5,000 signatures in 2 weeks! !fsf !pla ...Aug 24 18:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Prorogation would ensure that the government has clear political sailing through the 2010 Winter Olympics http://t.co/6uNAhOx #wlfindAug 24 18:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Join me in 45 mins for my live Ubuntu Q+A videocast at http://is.gd/vAp17e #ubuntu #locoteams #ugjAug 24 18:18
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schestowitzhttp://deviceguru.com/first-affordable-mind-controlled-robotic-telepresence/Aug 24 18:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] #Petition This American Life to use #Ogg #Vorbis http://www.fsf.org/campaigns/tal-patents/petition #us #fsf #linux #drm #foss #video #audioAug 24 18:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @kirschner fsf 's #Petition This American Life to use #Ogg #Vorbis http://ur1.ca/4yjq0 #rOggOnAug 24 18:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @wikileaks: #wlfind UK: Afghan War is failing, 'young lives thrown away'. http://t.co/0rpZ0HBAug 24 18:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @wikileaks: #wlfind On behalf of Monsanto: US diplomat lobbies against French biotech bill that would regulate GMO http://t.co/JXRNcx7Aug 24 18:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Extrajudicial killings bad in Rwanda if against genocidal maniacs, good if on warpath against terrorists http://t.co/pC9vxZg #wlfindAug 24 18:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @tacone_: RT @maniraptor: "SUPER MASONIC PUPPIES AND OTHER INSULTS." Best cable title yet. http://t.co/gDjeEjG #wlfind #06ANKARA5018Aug 24 18:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Top 10 !Ubuntu 11.10 Features according to Softpedia goo.gl/SbkGg « !Thunderbird and Deja Dup are probably the highlightsAug 24 18:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Biografia Reginei Elisabeta a României la Paris http://tinyurl.com/3vojczo #romania #monarchy #elisabeta #paris #galignaniAug 24 18:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Twitter for Mac user asserts "Communication should always be #opensource" Is Twitter for Mac !opensource then?Aug 24 18:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] PLoS & Mendeley sponsor Binary Battle contest to build best apps for #openscience! Submit by Sep 30 for $16k in prizes: http://bit.ly/hAkhhYAug 24 18:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Real names is definitely the wrong fight for Google to pick @maymaym re goo.gl/sGVE3Aug 24 18:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] IMPORTANT: tweet your US cable finds with the tag #wlfind You can link directly to paragraph marks (¶) http://t.co/K6nZIRXAug 24 18:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Vatican acknowledges sexual abuse of nuns by priests http://t.co/Lap7XQS #wlfindAug 24 18:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Update. According to European patent expert Jan Wildeboer, the decision handed down by the Dutch court today allows Sam... http://b1t.it/xOrAug 24 18:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Wednesday's security update http://lwn.net/Articles/456236/rssAug 24 18:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] US uses Beijing talks to lobby for Israeli private website: shvoog.com paid review co, owner part of IsPal neg http://t.co/zJFnv6K #wlfindAug 24 18:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] No Higgs: Did Stephen Hawking Just Win the Most Outrageous Bet in Physics History? (SciAmerican): http://bit.ly/puo3K8Aug 24 18:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] [$] LinuxCon: x86 platform drivers http://lwn.net/Articles/456146/rssAug 24 18:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] "Apple Loses Court Battle In Europe, Samsung Free To Sell Galaxy Tabs" - http://www.muktware.com/news/2344 #justsayinAug 24 18:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Human trafficking from Mozambique to South Africa sexual exploitation, forced labour, removal of organs... http://t.co/E3EYynl #wlfindAug 24 18:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Join me now for my live Ubuntu and Community Q+A videocast at http://is.gd/vAp17e - bring your questions! #ubuntu #locoteams #ugjAug 24 19:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] RT @jwildeboer "Apple Loses Court Battle In Europe, Samsung Free To Sell Galaxy Tabs" - http://www.muktware.com/news/2344 #justsayinAug 24 19:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] "30 Rock," "Bob Dylan,": Here Are the Words New Yorkers Most Use in Their Online Dating Profiles (Village Voice): http://bit.ly/n1UK2TAug 24 19:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RD @lissnup: +9000 @blakehounshell Is anyone else sick and tired of how the big breaking news feeds report every little move Apple makes?Aug 24 19:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] New post by former CC Creative Director @fauxbrizio on why @cashmusic & CC are important: http://t.co/xjKPHtCAug 24 19:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] 'Devastating' Apache bug leaves severs exposed (Register): http://bit.ly/qILwWDAug 24 19:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Less than 2 years ago, the US were selling military parts to the Libyan Air Force through 3rd countries: http://t.co/SzDLlOf #wlfindAug 24 19:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[piracy/@piracy] Unlike some liars @Cryptomeorg warns: *NO* site is trustworthy. Best run own site or warily try these: http://t.co/Q4EErLp #whistleblowingAug 24 19:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] with the dutch verdict now in place, it should be interesting to watch what happens tmorrow in the german cas in Düsse... http://b1t.it/xOIAug 24 19:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] These Are the Worst Train Lines on the NYC Subway (Gawker): http://gawker.com/5833978/these-are-the-worst-train-lines-on-the-subwayAug 24 19:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Sasson report on illegal settlement activity in the West Bank and Gaza Strip was a powerful bombshell http://t.co/ekpiM53 #wlfindAug 24 19:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Got myself Social Network on Blu-Ray for £6 ex-rental at Blockbusters - cracking value!Aug 24 19:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] How Russia's State Narcotics Control Agency (FSRK) threatens small businesses with bogus criminal charges http://t.co/1vAi6Ak #wlfindAug 24 19:27
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DaemonFCthe head of Business Solidarity, a NGO dedicated to Aug 24 19:29
DaemonFCprotecting Russian businesses from government extortion.Aug 24 19:29
DaemonFClolAug 24 19:29
DaemonFCwe could use one of thoseAug 24 19:29
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DaemonFCthe extortion wings of the US government, federal level, are numerous Aug 24 19:30
DaemonFCmostly the IRS, but also ICE Aug 24 19:30
DaemonFCthey love their acronymsAug 24 19:30
DaemonFCput any three letters together and it's probably a US government agencyAug 24 19:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] sap http://65.60.11.2:8216/live == listening to live drunken hobo journalism ;)Aug 24 19:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks IRC chat. Join #wikileaks for cable research http://t.co/TlfJarKAug 24 19:35
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MinceRDaemonFC: A.S.S.Aug 24 19:37
DaemonFCI knew you'd say thatAug 24 19:37
DaemonFCASS is classified by the MPAA, but only for those < 13Aug 24 19:37
DaemonFCB-)Aug 24 19:37
MinceRnot F.U.K. or something else? :>Aug 24 19:37
DaemonFCanything not politically correctAug 24 19:38
DaemonFCthat usually includes tobacco and alcohol nowAug 24 19:38
DaemonFCand they'll get to salt and red meat eventuallyAug 24 19:38
DaemonFCMinceR: At one point the MPAA was considering raising the rating of any movie with tobacco use to RAug 24 19:40
DaemonFCit's something they use to claim they aren't censoring a movie but if you want to keep your PG-13 rating, you'll complyAug 24 19:40
DaemonFChttp://rabble.ca/news/2011/08/us-espionage-investigation-against-wikileaks-patriot-act-order-unsealedAug 24 19:42
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DaemonFCof course, as they say...... you can indict a ham sandwichAug 24 19:43
DaemonFCif one jury won't indict, the prosecution simply refiles until they find one that willAug 24 19:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @rajitsingh "Samsung violated patent 2,059,868, which deals with 'method of scrolling'"- WHO in the world grants these patents??? !An ...Aug 24 19:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] #Vatican tries to counter leftward shift in #LatinAmerica. Using money from #US Church in efforts - http://t.co/dwOQyz7 #wlfindAug 24 19:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Digital magazines, the new media, and why HP’s $99 tablet could spark a digital renaissance | http://t.co/GySMxJUAug 24 20:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] "Proful online" ţine lecţii de matematică în stupină şi le pune pe blog (VIDEO) http://tinyurl.com/42n3v4w #video #romania #math #teacherAug 24 20:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] A #Romanian #teacher offers #free #math #lessons #online, in his own apiary http://tinyurl.com/3uewy7c #video #knowledgeAug 24 20:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] @fontana Getting frustrated with all these cryptomemes. :-)Aug 24 20:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Global internet community joins in political treasure hunt through US diplomatic cables http://t.co/g5PyL7wAug 24 20:12
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schestowitzhi DaemonFCAug 24 20:18
schestowitz[19:42] <DaemonFC> http://rabble.ca/news/2011/08/us-espionage-investigation-against-wikileaks-patriot-act-order-unsealedAug 24 20:19
TechrightsBot-trTitle: U.S. espionage investigation against WikiLeaks: Patriot Act order unsealed | rabble.ca .::. Size~: 26.73 KBAug 24 20:19
schestowitzyeah, "high tech terrorist"Aug 24 20:19
DaemonFC"I was kind of hoping when Bush left that they could fumigate the white house and Obama/Biden wouldn't fuck us all over so badly." -meAug 24 20:19
schestowitzDid you see some of the cables?Aug 24 20:19
schestowitzI like thoseAug 24 20:19
schestowitzShows the govt. serving the corpsAug 24 20:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] So !Google Docs is in 46 languages? http://goo.gl/qCbbU - Can't remember how many !Abiword supports - more I thinkAug 24 20:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] @fontana Tangent -- Found this: "assigning rights to Cygnus is not the same as ... to the [FSF]" http://ur1.ca/4ymrn Software Foundation."Aug 24 20:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] @fontana ... a point @bkuhn is still struggling to get across to people who are not listening. (corporate assignment != FSF assignment)Aug 24 20:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] If it is true that the US govt. is behind the DDOS attacks on Wikileaks, does that make Biden a "high-tech terrorist"? !wikileaksAug 24 20:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] "Holländisches Patenturteil für Apple wirkungslos" -http://www.telekom-presse.at/Hollaendisches_Patenturteil_fuer_App... http://b1t.it/xPkAug 24 20:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] A #Romanian #teacher offers #free #math #lessons #online, in his own apiary http://tinyurl.com/3uewy7c #video #knowledgeAug 24 20:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @wikileaks: US pressured UK to not to introduce a resolution in UNHRC proposing action on Goldstone report. http://t.co/GRWCGUB #wlfindAug 24 20:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @wikileaks: Vatican acknowledges sexual abuse of nuns by priests http://t.co/Lap7XQS #wlfindAug 24 20:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @wikileaks: Less than 2 years ago, the US were selling military parts to the Libyan Air Force through 3rd countries: http://t.co/SzDLlOfAug 24 20:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] "Wesa in big doodoo now" #JarJarBinks as #ArseneWenger in reaction to the #Udinese goal, 1-1 aggAug 24 20:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @wikileaks: Sasson report on illegal settlement activity in the West Bank and Gaza Strip was a "powerful bombshell" http://t.co/ekpiM53Aug 24 20:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @wikileaks: Global internet community joins in political treasure hunt through US diplomatic cables http://t.co/g5PyL7wAug 24 20:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Good afternoon !IdentiverseAug 24 20:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RD @schestowitz @wikileaks: Global internet community joins in political treasure hunt through US diplomatic cables http://t.co/g5PyL7wAug 24 20:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @schestowitz ♻ @wikileaks: Global internet community joins in political treasure hunt through US diplomatic cables http://t.co/g5PyL7wAug 24 20:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Cum mi-am cumpărat un tricou rulând un program pe calculator http://tinyurl.com/3ux7ugd #bitcoinAug 24 20:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Nasty Apache denial of service vulnerability http://lwn.net/Articles/456268/rssAug 24 20:34
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Cum mi-am cumpărat un tricou rulând un program pe calculator | Ovidiu's Box .::. Size~: 43.73 KBAug 24 20:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Nasty Apache denial of service vulnerability [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 8.2 KBAug 24 20:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2103913/hp-ship-bargain-touchpads #nuffsaidAug 24 20:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Hp will ship more bargain touchpads- The Inquirer .::. Size~: 63.64 KBAug 24 20:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] 'Devastating' Apache bug leaves servers exposed from Register by Dan Goodin http://goo.gl/bnS7mAug 24 20:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] My brother @larryrusswurm has just upgraded from !wordpress default blog theme to twentyten ... using a personalized banner crafted by me :)Aug 24 20:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @neptune78 !reading hide and seek? No, it's !InconstantMoon - Wednesday's serialization is online: http://ur1.ca/4yjxsAug 24 20:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @mcnalu @sandersch so nutzer means user?Aug 24 20:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @sazius @bkuhn I haven't heard that before: "give me convenience or give me death" - good one :)Aug 24 20:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is reality with 180 dents!Aug 24 20:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !Security oversight reduces complexity of Apple ID passwords … by Michael Grothaus http://goo.gl/ajM5OAug 24 20:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] @fabsh meego is only dead on Nokia mobile. Fortunately, there are other avenues for meego.Aug 24 20:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Fatigued.Aug 24 20:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RD @bugabundo Calm down, #android malware makes up a tiny .00024% of the threat landscape - http://goo.gl/bLwrPAug 24 20:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Facebook worried as yet more "features" introduced? http://goo.gl/t1Xdi #facebook #diaspora #googleplusAug 24 20:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] #HP #TouchPad #Android Port Bounty Now Over $2,000 http://techcrunch.com/2011/08/24/hp-touchpad-android-port-bounty-now-over-2000/Aug 24 20:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] I know @larryrusswurm is writing a new post but make sure not to miss "Hope For #CouchPotatoes " http://ur1.ca/4ymu3 #math #humour #exerciseAug 24 20:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] #np All of the Lights - Mr. WestAug 24 20:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Dutch IP attorney confirms all of my findings. Sorry, +Florian Mueller ;-) http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en... http://b1t.it/xPwAug 24 20:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Do not forget that governments are run by lawyers. [video] http://ur1.ca/4ymufAug 24 20:47
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schestowitz> In my last message, my wording was a bit obtuse.Aug 24 20:49
schestowitz> Aug 24 20:49
schestowitz> I meant to say that I am now able to use captions when viewing Tech Bytes.Aug 24 20:49
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schestowitzOh, I thought subtitles for all parts.Aug 24 20:49
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schestowitzjono: why is canonical so quiet?Aug 24 20:55
schestowitzI am trying to find ubuntu news, but there is so little of thatAug 24 20:55
jonoschestowitz quiet?Aug 24 20:55
jonowe are busy working on 11.10Aug 24 20:55
schestowitzVERYAug 24 20:55
jonoI don't think it isAug 24 20:55
jonoread cloud.ubuntu.com or omgubuntu.co.ukAug 24 20:55
schestowitzI think it is, based on newsAug 24 20:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Git - Revision Control Perfected http://tinyurl.com/3lp4oe8 #git #torvalds #rcs #software #gnu #linux #fossAug 24 20:55
jonothere is lots going onAug 24 20:55
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schestowitzMaybe you do that behind closed doorsAug 24 20:55
jononopeAug 24 20:55
schestowitzjono: you need more promotion thenAug 24 20:55
schestowitzPeople can forget ubuntu existsAug 24 20:56
jonohehAug 24 20:56
jonoI doubt itAug 24 20:56
schestowitzmy daily links are devvoid of ubuntu contentAug 24 20:56
MinceRgood, then they can learn about other distrosAug 24 20:56
schestowitzAnd not anything intentional that I do is the reasonAug 24 20:56
schestowitzjono: yeah, no offence meantAug 24 20:56
schestowitzJust wondered if there was an explanationAug 24 20:56
schestowitzTouching bases re presenceAug 24 20:56
jonoMinceR, aha! I wondered when you would chime in :-)Aug 24 20:56
jonoschestowitz there is no explanation, we are just busy getting 11.10 to rockAug 24 20:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Sports Bars Changing Channels For Video Gamers http://is.gd/iNl5msAug 24 20:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Shunning SUSE in FOSS and Linux Events http://ur1.ca/4ymwb #suse #opensuse #gnu #linuxAug 24 20:57
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schestowitzI knowAug 24 20:57
schestowitzI'm jus' sayin'Aug 24 20:57
schestowitzLast year you existed in the pressAug 24 20:57
jono:-)Aug 24 20:57
schestowitzNow you hardly doAug 24 20:57
schestowitzAlso as inidividualsAug 24 20:57
schestowitzTBHAug 24 20:58
jonoI am not too worriedAug 24 20:58
jonoI would rather we get great press for a great productAug 24 20:58
schestowitzmaybe it's for the better, improved focusAug 24 20:58
schestowitzYou had to take many distractionsAug 24 20:58
jonoand right now we are heads down on making a great productAug 24 20:58
schestowitzOpenRespect, auidiocasts, FLOSS Weekly..Aug 24 20:58
schestowitzmake sure 10.10 is polishedAug 24 20:58
schestowitzYou're the bossAug 24 20:58
schestowitzDelay if neededAug 24 20:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Shunning SUSE in FOSS and Linux Events http://ur1.ca/4ymwb #novell #attachmate #oscAug 24 20:58
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schestowitz11.10 I meantAug 24 20:59
schestowitzI've been working with someone who has many tablet patents to give it to the OINAug 24 20:59
schestowitzhe's handing those over now, to shoot down Apple injunctions we hopeAug 24 21:00
schestowitzMaybe Canonical is busy filing patents on Unity /sarcasmAug 24 21:01
MinceRwhat, and take them before crApple can? :>Aug 24 21:01
schestowitzjono: when do you come to Wolverhampton?Aug 24 21:01
schestowitzApple's patents are worth moreAug 24 21:02
schestowitzThey have the Apple brand on themAug 24 21:02
jonoschestowitz basically never go to wolvesAug 24 21:02
schestowitzommiission of "I"?Aug 24 21:02
schestowitzOr instructive to me?Aug 24 21:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @tomsky Whilst trying to fix my dads pc I discovered that he's been a quest to download as much adware as his hard drive will allow.Aug 24 21:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] #wlfind Microsoft CEO Microsoft is as much an Israeli company as an American company, http://t.co/hs10kU4Aug 24 21:12
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DrumScum21:58 < schestowitz> make sure 10.10 is polishedAug 24 21:15
DrumScumI'd say to keep that in mind for 12.04Aug 24 21:16
DrumScum(that will be an LTS right?)Aug 24 21:16
DrumScumoh greatAug 24 21:16
DrumScumfx6 build is finishedAug 24 21:17
DrumScumwhiiAug 24 21:17
DrumScumabout ubuntu: somewhere i read that Shuttleworth thinks that only LTS releases should be used in production environmentsAug 24 21:18
DrumScumlarge corporate deployments and allAug 24 21:18
DrumScumand that the non-LTS releases are for the adventurous userAug 24 21:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @neptune78 @tomsky Dam, them porn sites! LOLAug 24 21:20
DrumScumi tend to agree with that...Aug 24 21:20
SnitSchestowitz: "Apple's patents are worth more.  They have the Apple brand on them"Aug 24 21:21
DrumScumbut often i find the release right after an LTS the best onesAug 24 21:21
SnitNot sure what you mean - do you think Apple only patents more valuable ideas?Aug 24 21:21
DrumScumi think - on the desktop at least - 10.10 absolutely rocksAug 24 21:21
DrumScumwe have some workstation at work running 10.10, and they're giving me very little griefAug 24 21:22
DrumScumif any at allAug 24 21:22
schestowitzSnit hasn't met y mate called sarcasmAug 24 21:22
schestowitzDrumScum: yes, I was thinking LTS tooAug 24 21:23
schestowitzI run only LTS and Debian stableAug 24 21:23
DrumScumgreat options if you want a solid setupAug 24 21:23
schestowitzAn employer and client use Debian and standardise on itAug 24 21:23
schestowitzThe CS department uses UbuntuAug 24 21:23
DrumScumI like to tinker once in a while thoughAug 24 21:23
SnitSchestowitz: so you do not think they are more valuable.  I came into the middle of the conversationAug 24 21:23
MinceRperhaps the RDF is incompatible with sarcasm :>Aug 24 21:23
schestowitzit's implicit markup :-)Aug 24 21:24
DrumScumhence my recent swich to gentooAug 24 21:24
SnitI think it is hard to argue against the idea that Apple has made some massive changes in many industries - and the ideas they have brought there are immensely valuable. Aug 24 21:24
schestowitzWhat does that daughter run? Gentuo too?Aug 24 21:24
schestowitz*tooAug 24 21:24
DrumScumiOS ;-)Aug 24 21:24
schestowitzLOLAug 24 21:24
SnitThe success of the company is based on the value of their ideas (and implementing them, of course).Aug 24 21:24
DrumScumnah, my entire family is on Debian Wheezy (testing)Aug 24 21:25
DrumScumcurrently on the xfce desktopAug 24 21:25
SnitAh, this is just random Apple-bashing.  Got it.Aug 24 21:25
DrumScumbecause gnome is flakey atmAug 24 21:25
SnitThat was to MinceRAug 24 21:25
DrumScumin debian testing that isAug 24 21:25
MinceRsorry for interrupting the random crApple-praisingAug 24 21:25
DrumScumtransition to gnome3 and all that jazzzAug 24 21:26
SnitI was in reference to their patents and ideas.Aug 24 21:26
SnitI mean, it is pretty hard to make a coherent argument that they have not turned multiple industries upside down.  Aug 24 21:26
schestowitzMinceR: be polite to mentally-challenged neighboursAug 24 21:26
MinceR:>Aug 24 21:26
SnitSame thing with Linux - embedded devices, servers, etc. will never be the same.Aug 24 21:26
SnitBetween the two they have had a massive influence on the world.Aug 24 21:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Hillary Clinton issues demarche request on Goldstone Report to all diplomatic posts http://t.co/0zjt1qy #wlfind #Israel #PalestineAug 24 21:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] BBC’s Reversal of Android Stories Makes Them ‘Publishable’ http://ur1.ca/4yn00 #bbc #android #fud #linux #microsoft #billgatesAug 24 21:27
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SnitLinux based OSs and Apple's OSs and other techs each have strengths - and each have weaknesses.  I find it amazing how much fans of each technology belittle the other.Aug 24 21:28
DrumScumjono: still here you?Aug 24 21:28
jonoDrumScum, yep, just workingAug 24 21:28
MinceRthe strengths of crApple's OSs come from the free software project they ripped off, including FreeBSD, Mach and KDEAug 24 21:29
DrumScumgetting unity into shape, right?Aug 24 21:29
MinceRs/ect/ects/Aug 24 21:29
DrumScumwhat's the best place to get some ideas through?Aug 24 21:29
jonoDrumScum, yupAug 24 21:29
jonoDrumScum, the ayatana mailing listAug 24 21:29
SnitSee: MinceR - when you spew nonsense like that, you prove you are just being silly.  Seriosly, you show how amazingly ignorant you are of the industry.Aug 24 21:29
DrumScumok, thanksAug 24 21:30
DrumScumlet's subscribe thereAug 24 21:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] BBC’s Reversal of Android Stories Makes Them ‘Publishable’ http://ur1.ca/4yn00 #samsung #apple #injunction #disinformation #msbbcAug 24 21:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @wikileaks: Hillary Clinton issues demarche request on Goldstone Report to "all diplomatic posts" http://t.co/0zjt1qy #PalestineAug 24 21:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RELEASE: 51,164 cables now in searchable format! http://t.co/DiSc2s4Aug 24 21:30
SnitI would love to see those who bash either OS X / iOS and those who bash Linux and OSS list the benefits of the "other".Aug 24 21:30
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MinceRSnit: keep telling yourself thatAug 24 21:30
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DrumScumi'm not a ubuntu user myself, but i'd like to see it become very goodAug 24 21:30
SnitI think most would not be able to ... very narrow views of the world.Aug 24 21:30
DrumScumas currently you guys are more or less the 'public face of GNU/Linux' :-pAug 24 21:31
schestowitzzoobab: pingAug 24 21:31
SnitMinceR: well, then, show where you understand.  Without insults, note benefits of Apple's OS X and/or iOS environments.Aug 24 21:31
MinceRDrumScum: which is sadAug 24 21:31
DrumScumwell, i tend to agreeAug 24 21:31
cubezzzStallman is the public face of GNU, not usAug 24 21:31
MinceRSnit: so, in other words, you announce your victory unless i praise the crap you love so muchAug 24 21:32
SnitIf you understand them there is no doubt you can list quite a few.  If you cannot list any, or only with insults and put downs, then you are showing you have such a strong bias as to not be able to be taken seriously.Aug 24 21:32
MinceR(which was designed for people who can't tell fingers from each other)Aug 24 21:32
schestowitzWhen Ubuntu is seen as not visible, people will say Linux "died"Aug 24 21:32
DrumScumbut that's  how it is, so i think it's in our best interest that ubuntu is greatAug 24 21:32
MinceRit's an interesting twist on the usual fanboy talk, that's for sureAug 24 21:32
schestowitzzoobab: remember the suggestion for reverse patent troll?Aug 24 21:32
SnitMinceR: I am noting if you cannot speak intelligently about a product or set of products then your opinion is too biased to be of any value.Aug 24 21:32
SnitI am not saying you have to think they are better than... well, anything.Aug 24 21:32
schestowitzI think we have access to many patents we can have Apple and Microsoft sued withAug 24 21:32
MinceRSnit: i already have spoken to you about it earlierAug 24 21:32
schestowitzAnd they can't retaliateAug 24 21:32
SnitBut you are completely ignorant of the very tech you claim is so bad.  Aug 24 21:33
SnitYou show *no* understanding of it.Aug 24 21:33
cubezzzSnit why are you even here?Aug 24 21:33
schestowitzhe's an obsessed trollAug 24 21:33
Snitcubezzz: why are you?  Aug 24 21:33
cubezzzwhat's your problem anyway?Aug 24 21:33
DrumScumhaha, good QAug 24 21:33
SnitAh, now the name callingAug 24 21:33
MinceRi guess he's trying to sell the crApple cult to people interested in free softwareAug 24 21:34
cubezzzyou really need to go awayAug 24 21:34
SnitNote: I am not saying anything bad about anyone or any tech.  I am noting that for those who belittle other techs but display their ignorance of the tech, they should not be taken seriously.Aug 24 21:34
MinceRand to defend their patent trolling activityAug 24 21:34
SnitAnd for this I am vilified.  Got it.Aug 24 21:34
schestowitzcubezzz: *nod*Aug 24 21:34
schestowitzzoobab: are you there?Aug 24 21:34
schestowitzIt's importantAug 24 21:34
SnitAnd here comes the herd behavior... lash out against me because I had the audacity to say one should understand the tech they put down.  Man, how insane of me.Aug 24 21:34
schestowitzand time-sentitiveAug 24 21:34
cubezzzgo to some Mac loving irc channel...Aug 24 21:35
DrumScumSnit: you're vilified for being an obsessive trollAug 24 21:35
MinceRSnit: no, you had the "audacity" to say that i do not understand the "tech", even though i've already proven that i doAug 24 21:35
schestowitzSome person whoM i spoke to for months and told to go through OIN is finding out OIN is like EFF and other groups like Mozilla who can't helpAug 24 21:35
cubezzznice nick, SnitAug 24 21:35
DrumScumyou /know/ we don't like apple productsAug 24 21:35
schestowitzNow we have a chance to implement the planAug 24 21:35
cubezzzdescribes your mindsetAug 24 21:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] MasterCard: good for Mossad assassins, but not for WikiLeaks supporters http://t.co/vqBYmRL vs. http://t.co/keJ07BGAug 24 21:35
MinceRSnit: you also had the "audacity" to claim without support that crApple was oh-so-innovativeAug 24 21:35
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DrumScumso why whine all day to us about them?Aug 24 21:35
MinceR(even though you seem to be aware that their GUI is living off what they took from Xerox, like everyone else)Aug 24 21:35
SnitMinceR: you really need support for the idea that Apple is considered one of the most innovative companies of the last decade?Aug 24 21:36
schestowitzLOL!Aug 24 21:36
DrumScumi've an ipad in the house, and i think it's overratedAug 24 21:36
schestowitzThe kid is talkingAug 24 21:36
MinceRSnit: no, i need support for the idea that crApple _is_ an innovative company (in any field other than marketing)Aug 24 21:36
cubezzzanyways, enough time wastingAug 24 21:36
MinceRSnit: i know it is a common memeAug 24 21:36
MinceRand i also know that it's unsupportedAug 24 21:36
schestowitzanyway, back to topicAug 24 21:36
SnitI think that is rather impressive... but that does not mean I think they are always doing the right thing.  Heck, until Lion you needed third party software to resize from any edge - I have been very vocal with my finding that silly.Aug 24 21:36
schestowitzWe spoke about UbuntuAug 24 21:36
DrumScumeven my daughter isn't using it as much as she thought she wouldAug 24 21:36
schestowitzAnd how its lack of presence is, IMHO, making it seem like Linux is goneAug 24 21:37
MinceRcrApple is _believed_ to be innovative by people who haven't heard of tablets before the hypePad and haven't heard of touchscreen phones before the hypePhoneAug 24 21:37
schestowitzCause people let all the cards be put on UnuntuAug 24 21:37
DrumScumit's a nice gimmick, but pretty boring in the long runAug 24 21:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Lets all point and laugh at Gatehouse Media - http://goo.gl/Ldbu6 #failAug 24 21:37
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SnitMinceR: you *really* need support for that.  OK.  I am happy to provide it... but keep in mind your ignorance of this is *very* telling.Aug 24 21:37
schestowitzWe need to have ubuntu stay in the mainstream, or at least another emerging distroAug 24 21:37
DrumScumbut in any case, i'm not interested in the ipadAug 24 21:37
DrumScumor tablet PCs in generalAug 24 21:37
SnitDo a google search for: most innovative companiesAug 24 21:37
schestowitzipad is not interested in youu eitherAug 24 21:38
MinceRSnit: is that all you can do?Aug 24 21:38
schestowitz(at least in Soviet Russia)Aug 24 21:38
cubezzzeverything came from Bell Labs Aug 24 21:38
SnitLook at the top 10 hits.  I bet Apple is listed in the top 5 on any list in at least 90% of the cases.Aug 24 21:38
MinceR<Snit> i'm all out of arguments, go search some for yourselfAug 24 21:38
schestowitzINNOVATION INNOVATION INNOVATION INNOVATION INNOVATION INNOVATION INNOVATION INNOVATION INNOVATION INNOVATION INNOVATION INNOVATION Aug 24 21:38
schestowitzYEAH!! BEAAABY.. I LOVE> THIS COMPANY YEAHS@#!@$|Aug 24 21:38
SnitHey, I can provide the link - just wanted to make sure it was clear I was not hand picking.  Aug 24 21:38
MinceRalso, you seem to be ignoring what i've said, including 224146 <@MinceR> Snit: i know it is a common memeAug 24 21:38
SnitHere some are:Aug 24 21:38
Snithttp://www.fastcompany.com/most-innovative-companies/2011/Aug 24 21:39
MinceRif you can't be bothered to read what i write then there's no point in arguingAug 24 21:39
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SnitA common meme... what is?Aug 24 21:39
MinceRthat crApple is innovativeAug 24 21:39
cubezzzXerox Parc was innovative :)Aug 24 21:39
schestowitzanyway, about UbuntuAug 24 21:39
Snithttp://www.forbes.com/special-features/innovative-companies.htmlAug 24 21:39
schestowitzAnd patents..Aug 24 21:39
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DrumScumyay, running FX6 nowAug 24 21:39
schestowitzCults are off topic...Aug 24 21:39
Snithttp://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/10_17/b4175034779697.htm?chan=magazine+channel_special+reportAug 24 21:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The 50 Most Innovative Companies - BusinessWeek .::. Size~: 54.07 KBAug 24 21:40
Snithttp://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/mostadmired/2011/best_worst/best1.htmlAug 24 21:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle: World's Most Admired Companies 2011: Best in Innovation - FORTUNE on CNNMoney.com .::. Size~: 74.8 KBAug 24 21:40
DrumScumdamn, and last month i was still on 3.somethingAug 24 21:40
cubezzzbtw... about the whole Unix thing... FreeBSD is worth a lookAug 24 21:40
Snithttp://www.istockanalyst.com/finance/story/5347102/the-most-innovative-companies-in-the-world-all-have-this-in-commonAug 24 21:40
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DrumScumFreeBSD KICKS ASS!!!Aug 24 21:40
schestowitzenough of the Apple smarketingAug 24 21:40
MinceRthe first link has no argumentsAug 24 21:40
schestowitzwe don't need thatAug 24 21:40
Snithttp://stanfordpress.typepad.com/blog/2011/07/how-innovative-are-forbes-most-innovative-companies-.htmlAug 24 21:40
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cubezzzUbuntu just isn't on my radarAug 24 21:40
schestowitzApple spends enough billions on itAug 24 21:40
DrumScumi absolutely love itAug 24 21:40
SnitAh, in the last one Apple is not in the top 5.  They are #6.Aug 24 21:40
MinceRthe second link has no arguments eitherAug 24 21:40
DrumScumthe perfect Free UNIXAug 24 21:41
MinceRSnit: i asked for _arguments_, _reasoning_, not random link spamAug 24 21:41
cubezzzDrumScum, have you used Unix v7 at all?Aug 24 21:41
DrumScumnoAug 24 21:41
ThistleWindsome things never changeAug 24 21:41
SnitBut on and on and on... the admission of yours that you did not know Apple is seen as one of the most innovative companies is amazingly telling of your ignorance.Aug 24 21:41
cubezzzah, a pityAug 24 21:41
SnitSo how can you advocate for one product when you do not know the competitionAug 24 21:41
DrumScumi saw your screencastAug 24 21:41
MinceRSnit: i've told you i know it's _seen_ as one and that i know that it is not oneAug 24 21:41
MinceRSnit: but you ignored all of thatAug 24 21:41
DrumScumisn't it quite old?Aug 24 21:41
Diablo-D3http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oiMZa8flyYYAug 24 21:41
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SnitRoy - who loves to call me names - admits he has not really used a Mac in a decade.  So he has no idea what the competition is doingAug 24 21:42
cubezzzyes, 1979Aug 24 21:42
cubezzzthe last true Unix, according to someAug 24 21:42
Diablo-D3hehAug 24 21:42
schestowitzBSAug 24 21:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] LINK: iPhone to Android: A Confession of Infidelity http://goo.gl/ASdSX #iphone #androidAug 24 21:42
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Diablo-D3I pirated lionAug 24 21:42
MinceRi have used a mac a few weeks ago, it's still as bad as ever -- and a bit worse, evenAug 24 21:42
DrumScumheheAug 24 21:42
schestowitzI used it about 50 times in the past decadeAug 24 21:42
Diablo-D3its, sadly, still osx.Aug 24 21:42
schestowitzand  in the past 5 yearsAug 24 21:42
Diablo-D3though Im surprised I could get it working in vboxAug 24 21:42
schestowitz5 in the past 5Aug 24 21:42
SnitThere are places where desktop Linux does some great things - but if you are only comparing it to 10 year old tech from the competitors it is real easy to think it is better than it is.Aug 24 21:42
DrumScumone thing i hate about macs is the glass screenAug 24 21:42
MinceRbut oh wow, they've tried - yet again - to implement maximize, and they failed - againAug 24 21:42
cubezzzDiablo-D3, are you talking about v6?Aug 24 21:42
MinceRi don't see how it's possible to do thatAug 24 21:42
schestowitzzoobab: I'll mail you maybeAug 24 21:42
DrumScumi detest reflective screensAug 24 21:42
SnitSchestowitz: in the interview I am pretty sure you said you had not used it.Aug 24 21:43
DrumScumyuckAug 24 21:43
MinceRthey've also made yet another nearly unusable mouseAug 24 21:43
DrumScumso that basically means apple hardware is out of the question for meAug 24 21:43
schestowitzWhat's Apple hardware?Aug 24 21:43
DrumScumimacs at leasstAug 24 21:43
schestowitziPod?Aug 24 21:43
schestowitzor the casing?Aug 24 21:43
schestowitzApple does not make hardwareAug 24 21:43
DrumScumdon't like their keyboard and mouse...Aug 24 21:43
schestowitzIt integrates and sells itAug 24 21:43
MinceRschestowitz: they do come up with bad design, thoughAug 24 21:44
schestowitzIt's like shoe companies in California that manufacture everything in AsiaAug 24 21:44
MinceRschestowitz: useless gimmicks that make products less usable and sometimes even dangerousAug 24 21:44
DrumScumwell yeah, apple branded hardware ;-)Aug 24 21:44
SnitOh, I do not like Apple mice, either.Aug 24 21:44
schestowitzMinceR: explosive ideasAug 24 21:44
SnitI think they are *horrible*.Aug 24 21:44
DrumScumyou know, seagate HDDs, Samsung screens, ATI GPUs ;-)Aug 24 21:44
schestowitzhehAug 24 21:44
schestowitzFDiy uo hear about the supply shortagesAug 24 21:45
SnitI actually have two of them sitting on my desk right now - the older one with the mini-track ball and the newer "touch" one.Aug 24 21:45
schestowitzSeems like Apps suing everyone is biting their arse nowAug 24 21:45
SnitBoth completely unusable by me.  Aug 24 21:45
ThistleWindSnit: you're wasting your time, this is a black & white channelAug 24 21:45
Diablo-D3what, not samsung hdds, samsung screens, and samsung gpus?Aug 24 21:45
SnitSchestowitz: and you have no evidence if they are right or wrong.  Got it.Aug 24 21:45
Diablo-D3and the hilarious part is, they really do all of thatAug 24 21:45
schestowitzThe Asian companies don't make factory capacity available for the stuff with apple logoAug 24 21:45
DrumScumThistleWind: nah, its black and green here :-pAug 24 21:45
schestowitzSo they just attacjed their partners like samsung basicallyAug 24 21:45
Diablo-D3yeahAug 24 21:45
Diablo-D3attacking samsung is badAug 24 21:45
Diablo-D3samsung makes EVERYTHINGAug 24 21:46
SnitAnyway, I use an 8 button Logitech MX518.  Quite programmable and excellent.Aug 24 21:46
Diablo-D3I can pretty much build an android device that is pure samsungAug 24 21:46
Diablo-D3Snit: try the G5Aug 24 21:46
schestowitzThistleWind: you're the one who told me off for not kicking out Microoft trollsAug 24 21:46
MinceRnah, it will only make crApple stuff more expensive to makeAug 24 21:46
schestowitzSo it's funny you shou;d say thatAug 24 21:46
MinceRthe fanboys will gladly pay upAug 24 21:46
schestowitzMake a choiceAug 24 21:46
SnitDiablo: I have seen the G5... might get one some dayAug 24 21:46
ThistleWindapple do a lot of hostile things, but it's not all bad by any stretch of the imagination, plenty of people actuall WANT to use their stuff, just like linux, so they must be doing something rightAug 24 21:46
MinceRplenty of people are stupidAug 24 21:47
Diablo-D3Snit: its basically the mx518 version 2.Aug 24 21:47
SnitThere was something about it I did not like - cannot recall what.Aug 24 21:47
MinceRwe knew that alreadyAug 24 21:47
schestowitzthey embargo Linux and ignore itAug 24 21:47
schestowitzWhen will apple port its apps to Linux?Aug 24 21:47
ThistleWindschestowitz: I give up pointing out the obvious to you, it falls on deaf earsAug 24 21:47
DrumScumThistleWind: marketing ;-)Aug 24 21:47
Diablo-D3Snit: I have the old steel/rust colored one, single thumb buttonAug 24 21:47
SnitMaybe I am thinking of a different one.  Hold one... GooglingAug 24 21:47
schestowitzWhen will apple do ANYTHING fairly?Aug 24 21:47
MinceRi just don't see why data processing equipment needs to be designed for people who have no business processing data anywayAug 24 21:47
Diablo-D3Snit: Ive had it for like 5 yearsAug 24 21:47
schestowitzThe iPhones don't work properly with Linux, eiherAug 24 21:47
ThistleWindof course they abuse their powerAug 24 21:47
Diablo-D3Snit: looks nearly identical to the g5, but its improvedAug 24 21:47
schestowitzApple likes to hide or embargo rivalsAug 24 21:47
schestowitzOr trademark-bully someAug 24 21:47
Diablo-D3Snit: the new g5 has a blue/black cracked look, is otherwise identical but has two thumb buttons like the mx518Aug 24 21:47
schestowitz[21:47] <ThistleWind> schestowitz: I give up pointing out the obvious to you, it falls on deaf ears\Aug 24 21:48
ThistleWindwhat they do offer is a network of devices that all work well togetherAug 24 21:48
MinceRschestowitz: they're like m$ -- they can't compete on grounds of technical virtueAug 24 21:48
schestowitzNo, you can explain, I hopeAug 24 21:48
schestowitzYou said I was too welcoming of opposing ideasAug 24 21:48
schestowitzAnd now you seem to suggest the oppositeAug 24 21:48
SnitAh... it is not the one with the single thumb button.Aug 24 21:48
SnitIt does look goodAug 24 21:48
schestowitzIn fact, the fact Snit is here is testament to yhatAug 24 21:48
schestowitzI have himm killfiled in COLA cause he's a trollAug 24 21:48
ThistleWindI did? wow, I'd love to hear the context of that oneAug 24 21:48
schestowitzBut in IRC we very rarely toss out ANYONEAug 24 21:48
SnitSchestowitz: wait, what am I a testament to... other than as an example of someone you call names and make absurd accusations?Aug 24 21:49
schestowitzThistleWind: maybe I misunderstood then :-)Aug 24 21:49
ThistleWindor is that the lunatics with the paranoid delusions of Ike etc used as the norm?Aug 24 21:49
MinceRSnit: that we don't kick trolls hereAug 24 21:49
ThistleWindis that the context?Aug 24 21:49
schestowitzThistleWind: anyway, I though that you would actually be the one pushing to keep on topic hereAug 24 21:49
MinceRat least the ones who don't abuse (flood, etc.)Aug 24 21:49
schestowitzThus, sticking to Ubuntu, patents, etc.Aug 24 21:49
schestowitzThere were some important issues discussed before it got disruptedAug 24 21:50
SnitAnyway, back to MinceR: do you now see how well regarded Apple is in terms of innovation?Aug 24 21:50
schestowitzAnd then become an Apple promotion+-festAug 24 21:50
SnitOr are you still a bit lost on that?Aug 24 21:50
schestowitz*becameAug 24 21:50
MinceRSnit: yes, i know, i've said so 2 times before thisAug 24 21:50
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ThistleWindI wouldn;t have thought being honest would be called promotion, but whateverAug 24 21:50
MinceRSnit: it's a common and baseless memeAug 24 21:50
SnitHey, I am not the one who brought up AppleAug 24 21:50
MinceRSnit: one you couldn't support eitherAug 24 21:50
schestowitznotice that Gar the stalker ("JudasPHD) is no longer hereAug 24 21:50
MinceRSnit: you keep bringing up crAppleAug 24 21:50
schestowitzBut he uses a new nym, AFAIKAug 24 21:51
SnitMinceR: LOL!  Nice BS excuse.  In other words, you got nothing.Aug 24 21:51
MinceRSnit: explain.Aug 24 21:51
ThistleWindI don't like apple, I wouldnt touch their stuff because ethically they do stuff that I disagree with, but to call everything they do bad is just wrongAug 24 21:51
SnitOK, so now that we know you are completely ignorant of Apple - let the topic die.  Aug 24 21:51
schestowitzYou too can probablt spot the psychopaths (inactive account that's new)Aug 24 21:51
SnitBecause Schestowitz blames me if you say odd things about them and I correct you.Aug 24 21:51
MinceRThistleWind: they don't do everything bad. a lot of good things they copy and ruin only slightlyAug 24 21:51
ThistleWindof course, the grown up way would be to not name call eitherAug 24 21:51
MinceRSnit: yes, that proves everythingAug 24 21:51
schestowitzThistleWind: Appl;e has a cartel going with Microsoft nowAug 24 21:52
SnitSchestowitz: I must say, I look forward to our next meeting on your show.Aug 24 21:52
schestowitzThey try to sue Linux out of the marketAug 24 21:52
schestowitzI can give you linksAug 24 21:52
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SnitAnd, again, even though I disagree with you, I respect your decision to allow me on... even though you know I disagree with you.Aug 24 21:52
ThistleWindschestowitz: I know the bad, I'm saying not all of what they do is badAug 24 21:52
MinceRif someone doesn't stand in the line and bleat "apple is so innovative" (but being unable to provide any reason why he thinks so, other than the other sheep), he must be ignorantAug 24 21:52
ThistleWindit works for plenty of peopleAug 24 21:52
SnitSchestowitz: when have they sued Linux.  And what for?Aug 24 21:52
schestowitzSnit: there won't be another show with you, it only encourages you to troll /more/Aug 24 21:52
ThistleWindnot me, but plenty of people CHOOSE apple stuffAug 24 21:52
MinceRfunny how the one who can and does provide rationale is the one called ignorantAug 24 21:53
schestowitzbblAug 24 21:53
SnitMinceR: I never said the lists were the only reasons.  I asked you a question.  You made it clear you have *no* idea.  You are quite ignorant about Apple.  So be it... Aug 24 21:53
MinceRSnit: i asked for reasons, you spammed with listsAug 24 21:53
SnitMinceR: yes... but you and Roy keep saying it over and over.Aug 24 21:53
ThistleWindMinceR: your inabilkity to discuss apple without childish name calling hardly puts you on a platform to judge other people's ignoranceAug 24 21:53
MinceRSnit: then you gave back to the usual routine of argumentum ad hominemAug 24 21:53
SnitMinceR: I asked if you knew if they were seen as innovativeAug 24 21:54
cubezzzwhy not just give Snit the boot? Unless everyone feels like argung all dayAug 24 21:54
MinceRThistleWind: that's pretty illogical and fallaciousAug 24 21:54
SnitDo you now need things they have innovated?Aug 24 21:54
SnitLike industries they have turned upside down?Aug 24 21:54
SnitOf course, you will just deny and say it is all luck or marketing or some other nonsense... Aug 24 21:54
MinceRSnit: turned upside down by doing what? patent trolling? hyping up what has been around for decades?Aug 24 21:54
SnitComputers, music, music players, smart phones, tablets, ... maybe moreAug 24 21:55
SnitOh desktop publishing.  I am sure I am leaving things out.Aug 24 21:55
MinceRwhat did they innovate about computers?Aug 24 21:55
MinceRas for DTP, they don't even make DTP softwareAug 24 21:55
SnitIn each of these areas Apple has brought ideas that were complex and made them usable by the average user.  Amazing innovation.Aug 24 21:55
ThistleWindas much as many of these devices existed before apple, apple did create a mainstream market with them, which others followed inAug 24 21:55
MinceRprovide examplesAug 24 21:55
SnitThey do not know... but they started what is now called DTPAug 24 21:55
ThistleWindbefore the ipad, tablets wern't close to mainstreamAug 24 21:56
MinceRi thought Xerox started thatAug 24 21:56
MinceRseeing how they focused on documentsAug 24 21:56
MinceRand the only reason they went into computing was document creationAug 24 21:56
ThistleWindnow apple are getting pissy that someone has a competitive tabletAug 24 21:56
SnitBefore the iPhone, the hardware makers were subservient to the carriers... and the devices were mostly horrible.Aug 24 21:56
SnitApple turned the whole industry upside down.Aug 24 21:56
MinceRthey had competitive tablets. the first ThinkPad was a tablet.Aug 24 21:56
SnitNow smart phones are *much* better.Aug 24 21:56
SnitBRBAug 24 21:56
cubezzzyeah Xerox Parc invented most of the computer stuff we all useAug 24 21:56
cubezzzethernet, bitmapped guis, mouseAug 24 21:57
MinceRSnit: bullshit. crApple phones are more heavily provider-locked and devoid of user control than any other.Aug 24 21:57
ThistleWindas much as I don't like apple, they have set the bar in several areas that others are forced to reachAug 24 21:57
cubezzzbut the top guy thought Xerox could make more money with photocopiers I guessAug 24 21:57
MinceRi've bought provider-unlocked phones before the hypePhone. recently in hungary, they've disabled hypePhones for using them on networks crApple didn't make a deal with in hungaryAug 24 21:57
Snitcubezz: describe some of the differences between what Xerox sold Apple and what Apple provided in a public product.Aug 24 21:58
SnitI bet you have no idea.  None.Aug 24 21:58
SnitAnd, if so, you have no idea what Apple innovated - if anything.Aug 24 21:58
MinceRalso, the hypePhone doesn't even stand up to the standards of smartphones, which were set before it. it does not allow the user to upload his own installer packages to install them on the phone at his choiceAug 24 21:58
MinceRit did not have copy/paste when it was introducedAug 24 21:58
SnitMinceR: your "metric" is absurd.Aug 24 21:58
MinceRit did not have a memory card slotAug 24 21:58
MinceRit didn't have mmsAug 24 21:58
SnitThe iPhone has more apps for it than any phone before it.Aug 24 21:58
MinceRit did not have multitaskingAug 24 21:58
MinceRSnit: they have to be centrally approved for installationAug 24 21:58
SnitMinceR: see - you can list bullet points.  But can you comment on what I said?Aug 24 21:59
MinceRnormal "smartphones" do not have this limitationAug 24 21:59
ThistleWindname calling just means you're talking about non-existant companies and non-existant productsAug 24 21:59
SnitMinceR: has anyone said otherwise?Aug 24 21:59
MinceRyes, i can comment on what you said: it's bullshitAug 24 21:59
MinceRthe usual crApple fanboy bullshit, at thatAug 24 21:59
MinceRi've seen it a hundred times before and it was bullshit back then alreadyAug 24 21:59
MinceRand it's still bullshitAug 24 21:59
SnitMinceR: ah, the "I disagree but cannot refute it... so I shall call it Bullshit" tactice.Aug 24 21:59
SnitLovelyAug 24 21:59
MinceRi already have refuted itAug 24 21:59
MinceRlearn to readAug 24 21:59
MinceRlearn englishAug 24 21:59
MinceRlearn about the subjectAug 24 22:00
MinceRthen come back to debateAug 24 22:00
DrumScum@MinceR: in Snit's world no one ever is able to refute anything he said...Aug 24 22:00
SnitMinceR: you listed bullet points of things you do not like, as if that makes it less innovative or if that was contrary to what I said.Aug 24 22:00
ThistleWindstill, this type of discussion really warms people exploring roys articles doesnt it? when they hear all the talk of freetards, they come in to see it's not true....and BAMAug 24 22:00
DrumScumso don't botherAug 24 22:00
MinceRThistleWind: if you don't recognize the brands, it's your own problemAug 24 22:00
MinceRit isn't "namecalling"Aug 24 22:00
cubezzzbtw, Xerox's profits are upAug 24 22:00
SnitWhich simply is not the case.Aug 24 22:00
cubezzzthey did something rightAug 24 22:01
MinceRSnit: no, i listed things that made a smartphone a smartphone before the hypePhoneAug 24 22:01
ThistleWinddude, call it what you like, it's schoolyard levelAug 24 22:01
MinceRapparently since the hypePhone came out, all you need for a "smartphone" is a touchscreenAug 24 22:01
ThistleWindnamecalling advertises the fact that your biasedAug 24 22:01
SnitMinceR: but you did not respond to what Apple did to change the smartphone game - make the devices *usable*.  And, really, get it so there were a lot more apps.  Oh, and make it so the carriers were no longer in controlAug 24 22:01
cubezzzXerox and IBM, the two oldest tech survivorsAug 24 22:02
MinceRThistleWind: i'm not biased, i'm realisticAug 24 22:02
SnitBut you do not like the device.  Fine.  But why deny these things?  It is not like you have a counter.Aug 24 22:02
MinceRSnit: the devices were usable alreadyAug 24 22:02
SnitAnyway... need to go for a bit.Aug 24 22:02
cubezzzin fact Xerox is older than IBM evenAug 24 22:02
ThistleWindafter nailing your colours to the biased mast, every statement that goes along with it is also taintedAug 24 22:02
MinceRSnit: my first smartphone was made before the iphoneAug 24 22:02
SnitMinceR: Apple makde them much easier to use.  MuchAug 24 22:02
SnitAnyeay... brnAug 24 22:02
SnitbrbAug 24 22:02
MinceRSnit: and it was a lot more usable than any iphone version, despite that it had windows mobile 5Aug 24 22:02
MinceRSnit: i did not find it difficult to useAug 24 22:03
MinceRpeople who find a smartphone difficult to use could always choose a featurephone or a dumbphone insteadAug 24 22:03
cubezzztech is transitory... arguing about Apple is meaninglessAug 24 22:03
cubezzzsome day it would be replacedAug 24 22:03
ThistleWindwow, thats the first time you've chosen to avoid name calling, it's a kodak momentAug 24 22:03
MinceRnow they can choose a featurephone marketed as a smartphone, called the iphoneAug 24 22:03
MinceRdidn't change a thingAug 24 22:03
MinceRThistleWind: it is notAug 24 22:03
MinceRThistleWind: search the logsAug 24 22:04
ThistleWindthere is prior art in your non-name calling?Aug 24 22:04
MinceRThistleWind: but if this is what keeps you from getting the message, then i'll try to do it this wayAug 24 22:04
MinceRThistleWind: "prior art" is not what you think it meansAug 24 22:04
cubezzzXerox is really worthy of studyAug 24 22:04
cubezzzor rather the history of XeroxAug 24 22:05
ThistleWindi get the message, I just find it sad that you can't debate without name callingAug 24 22:05
cubezzzthat's my 2 cents worth for todayAug 24 22:05
MinceRThistleWind: and you act like you don't understand itAug 24 22:05
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ThistleWindI don't consider the ability to recognise what a company does well as endorsing it, or a weaknessAug 24 22:07
MinceRi don't consider the ability to say a company does well something that it does not do well, a virtueAug 24 22:08
ThistleWindnor do I consider it an automatic pass for criticism of the stuff they do that's badAug 24 22:08
MinceReven if the erroneous statements have been repeated many timesAug 24 22:08
SnitOk, backAug 24 22:08
ThistleWindpeople CHOOSE apple, they CHOOSE linuxAug 24 22:08
SnitMinceR: people who find a smartphone difficult to use could always choose a featurephone or a dumbphone insteadAug 24 22:08
SnitRight: And Apple gave them another optionAug 24 22:09
ThistleWindif it didnt work for them they would CHOOSE something elseAug 24 22:09
SnitUse a Smartphone they could use and get to work.Aug 24 22:09
cubezzzThistleWind, you're kind of comparing apples and oranges thereAug 24 22:09
MinceRSnit: no, they gave them an existing option with different marketingAug 24 22:09
cubezzzone is hardware, the other is softwareAug 24 22:09
ThistleWindthese are not defaultAug 24 22:09
SnitAnd even now the iPhone has the highest satisfaction ratings.Aug 24 22:09
MinceRsure, that's what cognitive dissonance doesAug 24 22:09
MinceRand belonging to a cultAug 24 22:09
SnitMinceR: by all means support the idea it was the same with different marketting.Aug 24 22:09
MinceRthat's how its marketing worksAug 24 22:09
ThistleWindcubezzz: yes to a point, with an OS, they both say "we dont want windows" that's a choice, what they do choose is differentAug 24 22:10
SnitDo not forget to include in your answer the concepts I discussed: ease of use, putting the hardware makers in control, etc.Aug 24 22:10
MinceRThistleWind: some people seem to think that "we don't want windows" is all there is to itAug 24 22:10
SnitMinceR runs in 3... 2... 1...Aug 24 22:10
MinceRSnit: hm?Aug 24 22:10
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ThistleWindwith any device people chose what they like to actually useAug 24 22:10
SnitSupport your claim about marketing... that the innovation Apple is known for is just about that.  Aug 24 22:11
ThistleWindfor all the lockin, apple does have a UI that many people likeAug 24 22:11
ThistleWindyes they are conditioned by marketingAug 24 22:11
SnitThe claim is completely absurd... impossible to support.   But it is your claim.  So do your best to support itAug 24 22:11
MinceRSnit: oh wow, apple put themselves in control, how novel (except that they still let the telcos control a lot more -- even in europe -- than they get to control on other devices in europe)Aug 24 22:11
ThistleWindbut they like the UI of the ipad, iphone etc, they wouldnt struggle with it if it was badAug 24 22:11
MinceRas for ease of use, apple's idea of "ease of use" is "remove features", it has always been thatAug 24 22:11
MinceRnot very usefulAug 24 22:11
ThistleWindit works for many peopleAug 24 22:12
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ThistleWindnot for youAug 24 22:12
ThistleWindbut for many, they are not techiesAug 24 22:12
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ThistleWindthey just wanna use their music player etcAug 24 22:12
MinceRas for "innovation" -- they have little to no technical innovation and some innovation in marketingAug 24 22:12
SnitMinceR: having a focus can very much be innovative.Aug 24 22:12
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ThistleWindtechies tend to want every option open to themAug 24 22:12
SnitSo far your "evidence" is just your ignorance and misunderstanding.  Do you have anything of value?Aug 24 22:12
MinceRSnit: including a focus on people so stupid they don't know which finger is which and can't ignore options in a dialog that they don't need at the moment?Aug 24 22:12
ThistleWindwhich is the opposite of what apple and gnome try to doAug 24 22:13
MinceRSnit: so far, you've provided no arguments of value, only the usual apple fanboy hypeAug 24 22:13
SnitMinceR: and you just repeated your claim about marketing.  I am asking you to support it... not just repeat it.Aug 24 22:13
MinceRThistleWind: that's what makes tech devices usefulAug 24 22:13
ThistleWindyes to youAug 24 22:13
SnitMinceR: now you are spewing insults.  But no support for your claims about Apple and marketing.Aug 24 22:13
ThistleWindtechies are a minority of the buyersAug 24 22:13
SnitDo you have *any* support?  Any at all?Aug 24 22:13
MinceRThistleWind: the whole point of a general-purpose computer is that it can solve virtually infinite data processing problemsAug 24 22:13
ThistleWindyes to techiesAug 24 22:14
MinceRThistleWind: my point is that most buyers don't need any device of that class, because they can't make use of itAug 24 22:14
MinceRno need to dumb them down for those who actually use themAug 24 22:14
SnitMinceR: in other words, you do not like products with a focus on getting tasks done that people want.  Aug 24 22:14
ThistleWindfor most regular joes, the point of a computer is to skype with granma, email, facebook and youtubeAug 24 22:14
MinceRSnit: read about the "reality distortion field"Aug 24 22:14
SnitGot it... back to your ignorance.  Aug 24 22:14
ThistleWindwe are NOT the normAug 24 22:14
ThistleWindwe are techiesAug 24 22:15
SnitMinceR: I am asking *you* to support your claimAug 24 22:15
MinceRSnit: i don't like products that masquerade as belonging to a class of products they do not implement the defining features of.Aug 24 22:15
SnitAnd you are crashing and burningAug 24 22:15
ThistleWindwe want to explore under the bonnetAug 24 22:15
MinceRThistleWind: we're discussing tech devices.Aug 24 22:15
ThistleWindit's the same marketAug 24 22:15
SnitMinceR: you already covered your dislike of focused products... Aug 24 22:15
SnitGot it.  Next.Aug 24 22:15
MinceRSnit: anything to say besides various announcements of victory? (spoken like a true fanboy)Aug 24 22:15
ThistleWindmost people who buy any gadget just want to use itAug 24 22:15
ThistleWindthey don't care how it does what it doesAug 24 22:15
SnitMinceR: I am simply noting your complete lack of support...Aug 24 22:16
MinceRThistleWind: do they care if it does what it's supposed to do?Aug 24 22:16
SnitAnd turning the tables on you.  Except with me I provided actual support you blindly discounted... Aug 24 22:16
ThistleWindif it does what it's supposed to do, it's fineAug 24 22:16
MinceRSnit: you did not provide actual supportAug 24 22:16
SnitNow that I discount your garbage you call me a name.  Oh no!Aug 24 22:16
DrumScumsubscribed to ayatanaAug 24 22:16
MinceRSnit: i've defeated what you believed to be your argumentsAug 24 22:16
MinceR(of which there were few)Aug 24 22:16
DrumScumnow let's push some ideas :-pAug 24 22:17
SnitMinceR: and now you lie.  Why?  I provided lots of support for my claim Apple is seen as innovative.  When you then wanted examples I listed industries they altered with their innovation.Aug 24 22:17
ThistleWindapple do restrict that of course, but people don't notice those restrictions unless they try to go beyiond themAug 24 22:17
MinceRSnit: strawman.Aug 24 22:17
SnitSo no, you "defeated" nothing... and then folded when asked to support your ideas.Aug 24 22:17
MinceRSnit: the claim i've argued against was "apple is innovative", not "apple is seen as innovative"Aug 24 22:17
SnitYou said Apple was about marketing... when asked for support you said nothing about marketing.  Now a word.Aug 24 22:17
MinceRSnit: try to understand the difference between those two claimsAug 24 22:17
DrumScumdamn, does this go on and on?Aug 24 22:17
SnitYou talked about you do not like focused products and the like... but not a word about marketing.Aug 24 22:18
DrumScumdjeezes, this channel starts to look like fscking colaAug 24 22:18
abeNd-orgsure, apple is seen as innovative, heck, Jobs is seen as the second coming...Aug 24 22:18
MinceRDrumScum: he desperately wants apple to be admired and lovedAug 24 22:18
SnitMinceR: so support your claim.Aug 24 22:18
MinceRDrumScum: he's a cola trollAug 24 22:18
DrumScumyou said this, you talked about that, you cannot support this, bla bla blaAug 24 22:18
SnitIf you think I and the world are all wrong, show why.  Aug 24 22:18
SnitBut you cannot - you whine about "marketing" but offer no evidence... Aug 24 22:18
MinceRSnit: do you think that apple innovated marketing?Aug 24 22:18
DrumScumdjeezes tapdancin' christ on a monocycleAug 24 22:18
ThistleWindit's convos like this that make me wonder if the COLA folks have got a pointAug 24 22:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] "Most #opensource projects assign #copyright to a central authority, a company or a foundation" http://ur1.ca/4yh13 < Um, no they don't.Aug 24 22:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] ♻ @fontana: RT @reality Breaking news# To help revive Identica, #tinap will be renaming itself to 'OMG# Identica.'Aug 24 22:18
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SnitBy the way, you do realize Ubuntu and other distros use marketing... don't you?Aug 24 22:19
MinceRSnit: distros generally also use technical developmentsAug 24 22:19
MinceRoften such of their ownAug 24 22:19
SnitMinceR: hmmm, they have had some clever ads. Aug 24 22:19
MinceRor of the free software communityAug 24 22:19
DrumScum23:18 <@MinceR> DrumScum: he's a cola trollAug 24 22:19
DrumScumMinceR: yeah, i knowAug 24 22:19
MinceR(which most distributors don't attack, unlike apple)Aug 24 22:20
ThistleWinddistros can't afford the same multibillion dollar marketting as apple or microsoft, if they could, they wouldAug 24 22:20
DrumScumwatch out, he'll be calling the bunch of us in this channel a 'herd' any time now :-pAug 24 22:20
MinceRSnit: you also failed to prove that apple innovated anything elseAug 24 22:20
SnitMinceR: bottom line - you can spew talking point insults against Apple but you cannot actually talk about their products in a way that shows any knowledge of them.Aug 24 22:20
MinceRSnit: Q.E.D.Aug 24 22:20
SnitAnd you make claims you cannot support... such as the one about marketing.Aug 24 22:20
DrumScumooh, GNU/Linux geeks that don't like appleAug 24 22:20
MinceRSnit: i've already shown more knowledge of apple products than most apple fanboys haveAug 24 22:20
SnitMinceR: and then you discount all claims you do not likeAug 24 22:20
DrumScumwhat a fscking surpriseAug 24 22:20
MinceRSnit: no, that's what you doAug 24 22:20
SnitMinceR: you are completely ignorant... you run when asked anything about Apple.Aug 24 22:21
MinceRi did not run, i answeredAug 24 22:21
MinceRany more lies for us?Aug 24 22:21
SnitHere, a test: what did Apple change from what they purchased from Xerox.  What did they use directly and what did they innovate?Aug 24 22:21
ThistleWindSnit: there's where you're going wrong, he's never heard of a company called Apple, he knows a LOT about a company called crAppleAug 24 22:21
SnitAnd my bet: you have *no* answer.Aug 24 22:21
MinceRSnit: they changed minor detailsAug 24 22:21
SnitMinceR: such as...???Aug 24 22:22
SnitBe specific.Aug 24 22:22
MinceRThistleWind: so, can you support his arguments or you'll just do the things you've said are to be avoided?Aug 24 22:22
ThistleWindscroll backAug 24 22:22
ThistleWindffsAug 24 22:22
MinceRSnit: not sure, it was a while ago when i looked at themAug 24 22:22
SnitMaybe you can say which company included overlapping windows... pull down menus... double clicking... icons and nouns... a desktop... Aug 24 22:22
MinceRSnit: they did change the look of things and iirc they moved the menus to the top of the screen (a bad idea)Aug 24 22:23
SnitMinceR: the point is you have *no* idea what Apple bought from Xerox and what they innovated.  None.Aug 24 22:23
MinceRiirc Xerox already had overlapping windowsAug 24 22:23
MinceRthey also had iconsAug 24 22:23
DrumScumughAug 24 22:23
MinceRand a desktopAug 24 22:23
DrumScumeven before xerox there were overlapping windowsAug 24 22:23
DrumScumand a desktopAug 24 22:23
DrumScumand pull down menusAug 24 22:23
SnitMinceR: you got that one... though they were not "self-fixing"... you had to click on them to get them to redraw.  Apple added the idea that they should appear more "real".Aug 24 22:23
MinceRhttp://toastytech.com/guis/star.htmlAug 24 22:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Xerox Star .::. Size~: 9.41 KBAug 24 22:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] #wlfind The Irish government & Shannon Airport vs. US Army http://t.co/hhkTZaW #04DUBLIN1739Aug 24 22:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] the #Techrights channel is like #MontyPython's Argument sketch without the humour sometimesAug 24 22:23
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MinceRthis is what apple copiedAug 24 22:24
MinceRyou can see the desktopAug 24 22:24
DrumScumwhat's the name of that one terminal again?Aug 24 22:24
DrumScumc'mon, it's very famousAug 24 22:24
SnitMinceR: but keep going through the list... we still have double clicking, icons as nouns... Aug 24 22:24
MinceRSnit: automatic redraw is a minor change of a detailAug 24 22:24
DrumScumgreen screen unix terminal using basically everything we use todayAug 24 22:24
SnitActually it was a pretty amazing feat given the hardware of the timeAug 24 22:24
MinceRSnit: double clicking is uninterestingAug 24 22:24
MinceRSnit: what's "icons as nouns"?Aug 24 22:25
SnitLOL!  Aug 24 22:25
*DrumScum lookin gup that terminalAug 24 22:25
MinceRmore fanboyish than everAug 24 22:25
MinceR"lol" as an argumentAug 24 22:25
SnitAn icon as a noun is an icon as we know it today.  And, yes, Apple is the one who came up with that.Aug 24 22:25
MinceRthough usually i hear that from microsoft fanboysAug 24 22:25
*DrumScum also agrees that 'double-click' is the single most stupid thing ever invented in computingAug 24 22:25
Snit"Double clicking is uninteresting".  Really... that is freakin' hillarious!Aug 24 22:25
MinceRdocuments and folders (which are "nouns") are represented by icons on the Xerox StarAug 24 22:26
MinceRso no point thereAug 24 22:26
MinceRSnit: are you going to argue that double clicking is an innovation that's anywhere near comparable to the features of Xerox Star?Aug 24 22:26
MinceRbecause if anything is hilarious, that's itAug 24 22:26
ThistleWindI weep for the speciesAug 24 22:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @wlfind: US PR machine - making the stories and bringing them to journalists t.co/uF9JPTU #wlfind #Darfur #Libya via @MoeZizz #medi ...Aug 24 22:27
MinceRwow, ThistleWind added so much to the discussion todayAug 24 22:27
SnitMinceR: nobody said Xerox did not have some noun iconsAug 24 22:27
MinceRand so very intelligently, tooAug 24 22:27
MinceRSnit: so what's apple's innovation about it if what they copied already had it?Aug 24 22:28
MinceRDrumScum: vt100?Aug 24 22:28
SnitMinceR: http://applemuseum.bott.org/sections/gui.html   http://www.sensomatic.com/chz/gui/history.html    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_graphical_user_interfaceAug 24 22:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Apple and the GUI .::. Size~: 16.91 KBAug 24 22:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Graphical User Interface - Time for a Paradigm Shift? .::. Size~: 13 KBAug 24 22:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle: History of the graphical user interface - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 107.04 KBAug 24 22:29
SnitSeriously I suggest you read those.  Aug 24 22:29
SnitYou will learn a lot about the history of the GUI and Apple's role in it.Aug 24 22:29
MinceRSnit: can you answer the question?Aug 24 22:30
SnitAnyway... need to run for a bit.  My next batch of rice milk is done (beeping)Aug 24 22:30
MinceRyes, "run"Aug 24 22:30
MinceRgnAug 24 22:30
SnitI already gave you a list... but my rice milk is more important than you.  But I will be back... but only for a butAug 24 22:30
SnitWhile I am gone maybe you can do some research and find support for your claim that Apple is *not* innovative and is popular because of marketing alone.Aug 24 22:31
SnitGood luck!Aug 24 22:31
SnitBRBAug 24 22:31
DrumScumthe blit terminalAug 24 22:32
DrumScumhaAug 24 22:32
DrumScum1982 that isAug 24 22:32
DrumScumoverlapping windows, a mouse, pull-down menus...Aug 24 22:33
DrumScumalso true multitasking, as it was an interface to unix systemsAug 24 22:33
DrumScumstill many years after the parcAug 24 22:35
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/danieldekok/statuses/106371728694984704Aug 24 22:35
TechrightsBot-tr@danieldekok: Well, thank you Apple, today you suck: http://t.co/ZsGhAFY #apple #swpatsAug 24 22:35
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/vvillenave/status/106371895947051008Aug 24 22:35
TechrightsBot-tr@: Aug 24 22:35
TechrightsBot-tr@vvillenave: #Android 2.* made illegal in the #EU (because of #Apple patent bullshit) http://osne.ws/jd6 #samsung #swpatAug 24 22:35
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: Apple Scores Meaningless Dutch Court Victory Against Samsung .::. Size~: 32.37 KBAug 24 22:35
DrumScumbut before the macAug 24 22:35
DrumScumbut whateverAug 24 22:36
DrumScumit's pretty clear that apple did not innovate as much as they are often credited forAug 24 22:36
DrumScumthey just manage to make existing stuff popularAug 24 22:37
DrumScumcommercialize it as it wereAug 24 22:37
DrumScumand /that/, they are good inAug 24 22:37
DrumScumbut whatever reallyAug 24 22:38
SnitDrumScum - there is some truth to what you say.  Apple is very good at recognizing what allows people to get work done... and making a system based on that.Aug 24 22:39
DrumScumsomething else now: any ipv6 specialists in here?Aug 24 22:39
SnitThey do not generally start from scratch, but they get the pieces / parts and put them together in a way nobody else has... and integrate them in ways to make them all usable.Aug 24 22:39
DrumScumi need to get my head wrapped around the stuff offered by eg. sixxsAug 24 22:40
SnitSometimes they get this quite wrong... but they generally do a very good job.  Heck, is there any company that does better?Aug 24 22:40
DrumScumi've been using a sixxs tunnel for years now, but i never actually tried setting up a 'real' network with itAug 24 22:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @clacke hmm, yeah I guess those are cryptomemes, at least for the presentAug 24 22:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @evan okay, I change "and" to "or". :-)Aug 24 22:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] New: LeakFeed cables returned in XML, JSON, JSONP, and RSS http://t.co/vliMWsVAug 24 22:40
TechrightsBot-tr@: Aug 24 22:40
SnitGoogle gets the idea of a simple and unified UI.  Heck, they were getting a bit crazy for a while and just redid their UIs to be more unified.  They get itAug 24 22:41
DrumScum(perhaps i just better go to the sixxs.net forums for info on this)Aug 24 22:41
SnitAnd simple.  Compare Google to Yahoo - the Yahoo home page is a mess.Aug 24 22:41
*DrumScum off to the sixxs.net forumAug 24 22:41
SnitEven iGoogle is not that crazy - though Google gives you good controlAug 24 22:41
*DrumScum hates forumsAug 24 22:41
DrumScum(they should come with a command line interface)Aug 24 22:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Backlash Against the US Patent System Grows Amid Google’s Defensive Moves http://ur1.ca/4yn81 #uspto #google #swpats #monopolyAug 24 22:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Backlash Against the US Patent System Grows Amid Google’s Defensive Moves http://ur1.ca/4yn81 #linux #android #oracle #java ]Aug 24 22:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] All remember the romanian tender that didn't allow Open source? It has been cancelled. #justsayin :-)Aug 24 22:45
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Backlash Against the US Patent System Grows Amid Google’s Defensive Moves | Techrights .::. Size~: 98.38 KBAug 24 22:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] 'NewSQL' could combine the best of SQL and NoSQL (Computerworld): http://bit.ly/oauu9vAug 24 22:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] 'NewSQL' could combine the best of SQL and NoSQL (Computerworld): http://bit.ly/oauu9v #NoSQLNowAug 24 22:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @wikileaks: RELEASE: 51,164 cables now in searchable format! http://t.co/DiSc2s4Aug 24 22:50
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/106471357386194944Aug 24 22:51
TechrightsBot-tr@wikileaks: #wlfind Kazakhstan "knows how to throw a party" with "sexy girls" http://t.co/OqxIziDAug 24 22:51
TechrightsBot-tr@: Aug 24 22:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Current EFF Members: join us for Speakeasy: Seattle after our warrantless wiretapping hearings! https://eff.org/r.A6EAug 24 22:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Watch them wind around when confronted with truth. http://www.guardian.co.uk/law/2011/aug/24/community-patent-irrelevant #swpatAug 24 22:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Members-Only Speakeasy: Seattle | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 10.38 KBAug 24 22:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @wikileaks: US PR machine - "making the stories and bringing them to journalists" t.co/uF9JPTU #wlfind #Darfur #Libya via @MoeZizz #mediaAug 24 22:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] "Bookmark Toolbar," "Unsorted Bookmarks" "Bookmark Menu"? Somehow Mozilla has made difficult the simple process of bookmarking a Web pageAug 24 22:55
DrumScumpfftAug 24 22:55
DrumScumthe numbers are too big for meAug 24 22:55
DrumScumso I got my ipv6 /48 subnet...Aug 24 22:56
DrumScumwhich means i have 65k /64 ipv6 networks?Aug 24 22:56
DrumScumbollocksAug 24 22:56
DrumScumi can't even count thatAug 24 22:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks' excellent middle-east partner, al-Akhbar launches English news site http://t.co/eK8ITlD #libyaAug 24 22:57
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DrumScumthat's *billions* of IPs... just for me :-/Aug 24 22:57
DrumScumarghAug 24 22:57
DrumScumbut they're not publicly routable i guess...Aug 24 22:57
DrumScumhaven't found that info yetAug 24 22:58
schestowitzSome bits are reserved for planetsAug 24 22:58
schestowitzCan't remember which one was allocated to EarthAug 24 22:58
DrumScumwell, i alone can now provide earthAug 24 22:58
schestowitzIf you assign an IP to each living cell, then you run out on Eatth too, I reckon, even with s^128Aug 24 22:59
schestowitz2^Aug 24 22:59
DrumScumyou take a block too, and do venusAug 24 22:59
DrumScum:-pAug 24 22:59
schestowitzI'd do VenusAug 24 22:59
schestowitz!google gilette venusAug 24 22:59
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Gillette Venus: Women's Razors—Reveal the Goddess in You | http://www.gillettevenus.com/Aug 24 22:59
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Gillette Venus: Venus Embrace Razor in Purple | http://www.gillettevenus.com/en_US/products/refillables/embrace_purple/index.jspAug 24 22:59
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - No Need for Shave Gel - Gillette Venus: Venus Spa Breeze 2-in-1 Razor | http://www.gillettevenus.com/en_US/products/refillables/spa_breeze/index.jspAug 24 22:59
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Jennifer Lopez - Gillette Venus Commercial - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DbYJ-oJRFVnoAug 24 22:59
DrumScumok, let's read some wikipedia articles on ipv6Aug 24 22:59
DrumScumperhaps buy a book too :-pAug 24 23:00
schestowitzthe Net not enough?Aug 24 23:00
SnitMissed the IPv6 discussion.  What was the question... not that I am an expertAug 24 23:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] RD @mattl I hope you'll join myself and everyone else at the FSF when we thank Jonathan Nadeau @frostbite for his internship this summerAug 24 23:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #RHEL 6 uses Upstart! http://ur1.ca/4ynap #redhat #gnu #linuxAug 24 23:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] X.Org Server 1.11 Set For Release On Friday http://ur1.ca/4ynaq #org #linuxAug 24 23:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Nobody seems to be talking about #ukriots anymore and the problem is that the state's guardians now have rubber bullets, permission to fire.Aug 24 23:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !wikileaks provides material that even so-called journalists hardly ever get access to. Who needs Murdoch's spin when source is available?Aug 24 23:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @wikileaks: New: LeakFeed cables returned in XML, JSON, JSONP, and RSS http://t.co/vliMWsVAug 24 23:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Mandriva 2011 almost ready for total freeze! http://ur1.ca/4yffm sweet #mandrivaAug 24 23:08
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schestowitz____/ RonB on Wednesday 24 Aug 2011 18:34 : \____Aug 24 23:09
schestowitz> Apple in shock. Apparently you *can't* patent a "rectangle with roundedAug 24 23:09
schestowitz> corners" after all. The judge in the Netherlands court even went as far asAug 24 23:09
schestowitz> saying that the iPad's "minimalist design makes it less viable for patentAug 24 23:09
schestowitz> protection." He also cited prior art, including the Compaq TC1x00 andAug 24 23:09
schestowitz> Knight Ridder Tablet. In regards to the iPhone, the judge cited the LGAug 24 23:09
schestowitz> Prada as prior art. But more importantly, as regards to the Android GUIAug 24 23:09
schestowitz> itself, he cited the Nokia 7710 as prior art. It's also interesting thatAug 24 23:09
schestowitz> the judge stated (in regards to the Galaxy Tab) "...only the front showsAug 24 23:09
schestowitz> some resemblance, while everything else is entirely different."Aug 24 23:09
schestowitz> Aug 24 23:09
schestowitz> It's a good day for choice and for sanity.Aug 24 23:09
cubezzzDynabook predates IPad by decadesAug 24 23:11
cubezzzlook up Alan KayAug 24 23:11
DrumScumoh yeah, apple's big 'win'Aug 24 23:11
DrumScumaccording to someAug 24 23:11
SnitWho?Aug 24 23:12
cubezzzAlan Kay was a Xerox Parc research scientistAug 24 23:12
DrumScumi still think they should /not/ have won the caseAug 24 23:12
SnitI know I and others have noted Apple win - which is a matter of public record - but I am not sure I would call it a "big win".  Aug 24 23:12
DrumScumnot even that one small pointAug 24 23:12
DrumScumsad day for technology when such obvious 'inventions' can be claimed...Aug 24 23:14
SnitWhat invention are you claiming is "obvious"?Aug 24 23:16
cubezzzthey should just axe the software patsAug 24 23:17
cubezzzStallman got that rightAug 24 23:17
SnitThey need to rework the system... but should be some way to protect people's work.Aug 24 23:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] I gotta say, I'm seriously liking #Turpial as an Identica / Twitter client, the right click menu on a dent is awesomeAug 24 23:18
SnitLOL!  RonB is back to his "round corner rectangle" FUD.Aug 24 23:18
SnitNone of the COLA "advocates" will *ever* call him on it.  Completely amazing.Aug 24 23:19
SnitThough predictable.Aug 24 23:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] ZDnet also notes that Apple has effectively lost in the Netherlands. http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/netherlands-sam... http://b1t.it/xRbAug 24 23:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] » @thistleweb: I gotta say, I'm seriously liking #Turpial as an Identica / Twitter client, the right click menu on a dent is awesome +1Aug 24 23:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #GNOME 3.0 Live image release 1.5.0 available http://ur1.ca/4ynda #gnu #desktopAug 24 23:22
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schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/81573708Aug 24 23:22
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Jan Wildeboer - Google+ - ZDnet also notes that Apple has effectively lost in the… .::. Size~: 38.96 KBAug 24 23:22
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TechrightsBot-tr@Nick "Dhraakellian" Tryon (dhraak)'s status on Wednesday, 24-Aug-11 22:12:24 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Unfortunately, not everyone has time to browse cables, but they should indeed have less-spun filtering than Murdoch'sAug 24 23:22
schestowitzHow about a greasemonkey script to blacklist his media empire of lies?Aug 24 23:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @@jwildeboer ZDnet also notes that Apple has effectively lost in the Netherlands. [..]Aug 24 23:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] » @lovenemesis: Great, could be the vendor in #China who sold out #Linux during the patent war: http://is.gd/UBGRNN http://is.gd/mGcZ4m #WTFAug 24 23:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 35% of Tablet Owners Use Them in the Bathroom [STUDY] http://ur1.ca/4yndk maybe they're just "taking the piss"Aug 24 23:25
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DrumScumFSCKAug 24 23:27
DrumScumwindows server crashed @ workAug 24 23:27
DrumScumhosting 2 Debian virtual serversAug 24 23:27
DrumScumdamn fscking windowsAug 24 23:27
DrumScumcan't even stay up for 270 days without going down :-/Aug 24 23:28
DrumScumcrapAug 24 23:28
schestowitzThere is one Windows mazhine at workAug 24 23:29
schestowitzAnd 300+ Linux oneAug 24 23:29
schestowitzAnd that Windows one will be decommissioned in OCt.Aug 24 23:29
schestowitzIt'll be replaced with kvmAug 24 23:29
schestowitz*linux ones (typo)Aug 24 23:29
DrumScumlucky youAug 24 23:30
cubezzzand me too :)Aug 24 23:30
DrumScumin my case, the IT director is an MS freakAug 24 23:30
cubezzzI work in a lab with all FOSS machinesAug 24 23:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !Fedora 16 KDE and GNOME 3 Alpha screenshots http://ur1.ca/4yndvThere Trying out Fedora 16 Alpha. http://ur1.ca/4ynedAug 24 23:30
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SnitMS Freak... how do you define that?  In this case... not looking for silly semantic debate.Aug 24 23:31
DrumScumthis particular server (HP Proliant ML360) i explicitly asked *no OS*Aug 24 23:31
DrumScumbut he ordered it with a Windows 2008 OEM licenseAug 24 23:31
SnitWas it any more expensive to do so?Aug 24 23:31
DrumScumand then insisted i ran it on the bare metal with gnu/linux virtualized on top of itAug 24 23:32
DrumScumSnit: yes, 500 EURAug 24 23:32
DrumScumapproxAug 24 23:32
DrumScumin any caseAug 24 23:32
SnitWhat was his reasoning?Aug 24 23:32
SnitAs you present it, it does seem absurd.Aug 24 23:32
DrumScumlike I said: he's an MS freakAug 24 23:33
DrumScumyou don't buy a computer without windowsAug 24 23:33
SnitWhat would he claim his reasoning is?Aug 24 23:33
schestowitzSnit: why don't you  go to a mac forumAug 24 23:33
schestowitzStop trolling hereAug 24 23:33
DrumScumbut anywayAug 24 23:33
schestowitzYou already trolla  Linux NGAug 24 23:33
schestowitzNow you troll Linux oreinted IRC channeklsAug 24 23:33
DrumScumhis reasoning doesn't matterAug 24 23:33
schestowitzGet a life, will ya?Aug 24 23:33
SnitSchestowitz: I do not think DrumScum would be there.  But if you can find one for us to go to, sure.Aug 24 23:33
cubezzzschestowitz, ban him for 24 Aug 24 23:33
cubezzzyou've done it beforeAug 24 23:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Building With Someone Else's Blocks: Going Open Source With Games http://ur1.ca/4yneu #games #freedomAug 24 23:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @techdirt: Case That Righthaven Had 'Won' By Default Now Dismissed For Lack Of Standing http://t.co/ekDb7niAug 24 23:33
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schestowitzcubezzz: you can do thatAug 24 23:34
DrumScumi'm stuck with a windows serverAug 24 23:34
DrumScumand it crashes on meAug 24 23:34
SnitI would not be surprised to be banned for being honest.  But whatever.Aug 24 23:34
DrumScumor locks up or whateverAug 24 23:34
SnitWhat is his reasoning?Aug 24 23:34
schestowitzit'\s not honestAug 24 23:34
schestowitzit's diruptiveAug 24 23:34
schestowitzgo to a gay barAug 24 23:34
schestowitzTell them homophobic thingsAug 24 23:34
schestowitzbe honestAug 24 23:34
schestowitzAnd see how that goes downAug 24 23:34
SnitAs I said − I am siding with you... but curious what his reasoning isAug 24 23:34
SnitHow is truth disruptive?Aug 24 23:34
schestowitzyou're trollingAug 24 23:35
schestowitzYou're not telling truthAug 24 23:35
schestowitzYou disrupt topics that you're not wanted itAug 24 23:35
schestowitz*inAug 24 23:35
schestowitzAnd you know itAug 24 23:35
schestowitzAll of COLA killfiled youAug 24 23:35
SnitBlah blah blah... I have heard the accusations before.   I mean, really, if you are going to make accusations back them up.Aug 24 23:35
DrumScumthis week-end the win2008 disappears from the machineAug 24 23:35
*ChanServ gives channel operator status to cubezzzAug 24 23:35
schestowitzOnly libbellous Microsoft thugs read youAug 24 23:35
schestowitzand you COLLABORATE with themAug 24 23:35
*cubezzz sets ban on *!*Adium@*.cpe.cableone.netAug 24 23:35
*cubezzz has kicked Snit from #techrights (Snit)Aug 24 23:35
DrumScumand i'm going to put the three debians in XEN VMsAug 24 23:36
schestowitzwindows is slowAug 24 23:36
schestowitztoday I had to ask a collague to enter vsphereAug 24 23:36
DrumScumwtf?Aug 24 23:36
schestowitzon vmware/windowsAug 24 23:36
schestowitzand it toom 15 minutesAug 24 23:36
schestowitzI had to stay and aitAug 24 23:36
schestowitz15 minutesAug 24 23:36
schestowitzfor him to just log inAug 24 23:36
DrumScumrofl, did you just kicked snit cubezzz ?Aug 24 23:36
DrumScumhahaAug 24 23:36
cubezzzyeahAug 24 23:36
schestowitzand I needed to go already.. to the gymAug 24 23:36
DrumScumbrilliantAug 24 23:36
cubezzzway past time tooAug 24 23:36
schestowitzanyway, that server will die in sept/octAug 24 23:37
schestowitzwe alrady have kvm in placeAug 24 23:37
cubezzzI'm surprised MinceR didn'tAug 24 23:37
schestowitzand their vmware licence runs out in oct.Aug 24 23:37
DrumScumschestowitz: good thingAug 24 23:37
schestowitzkvm has nice front endAug 24 23:37
schestowitzAND...Aug 24 23:37
schestowitzA colleague who needs screen readers can use thatAug 24 23:37
schestowitzWith vsphere she was stuckAug 24 23:37
schestowitzcause windows and prprietary turn out to be crap in some ways to the visually impairedAug 24 23:38
schestowitzNow, how about that?Aug 24 23:38
DrumScumone positive thing of working in a mostly windows environment, is that sneaky bastards like me can replace many windows boxes with gnu/linuxAug 24 23:38
schestowitzI was gona try ORCAAug 24 23:38
schestowitzbut I'm told the windows apps of that sort are still aheadAug 24 23:38
schestowitzor rather..Aug 24 23:38
schestowitzgood apps for it are only build for win32Aug 24 23:38
cubezzzDrumScum, you can buy computers without windows but it's not easyAug 24 23:39
schestowitzWindows is what happans if the botloader goes wrong :-)Aug 24 23:39
schestowitzOr befoe you install your OSAug 24 23:39
DrumScumcubezzz: it's ok with serversAug 24 23:39
schestowitzfor me anyway...Aug 24 23:39
DrumScumand desktops tooAug 24 23:39
DrumScumlaptops less soAug 24 23:39
schestowitzif someone wants me to use his/her windows PC, I spend some minutes just creating a new partition fot meAug 24 23:39
*DrumScum looking again at the windows serverAug 24 23:40
schestowitzgrub gets installed with linux by defaltAug 24 23:40
cubezzzit's better not to mix windows and linux on the same boxAug 24 23:40
schestowitzso later they use that tooAug 24 23:40
DrumScumdamn, can't reboot it from here :-(Aug 24 23:40
schestowitzOIN's CEO is going to phone me in 20 minutesAug 24 23:40
schestowitzWe'll talk about how to counter some attacks on LinuxAug 24 23:40
cubezzzok, back in 1/2 hourAug 24 23:41
schestowitzmaybe I shoudl forward some stuff to zoobabAug 24 23:41
schestowitzHe's not paying attention to anything in IRCAug 24 23:41
DrumScumdamn, what's the port on the vmware server again?Aug 24 23:41
DrumScumis it 8333?Aug 24 23:42
schestowitzlet me check..Aug 24 23:42
schestowitzrdp?Aug 24 23:42
DrumScumnoAug 24 23:48
DrumScumvmware server https portAug 24 23:48
DrumScumit's 8333 alrightAug 24 23:48
DrumScumbut the machine is totally fubarAug 24 23:48
DrumScumi can still ping it, but all network services are downAug 24 23:48
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DrumScumand fsck, i *still* need to set up log rotation for our fortigate firewall logs on my freebsd logging serverAug 24 23:52
DrumScumughAug 24 23:52
DrumScum... /var fullAug 24 23:53
schestowitzroot partition full"?Aug 24 23:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] @fontana I still prefer "rant of a bkuhn"Aug 24 23:53
DrumScumnah, just /varAug 24 23:55
DrumScumbut i just copied away the forgate log fileAug 24 23:55
DrumScumso now i can install nmap on the freebsd server to scan the windows boxAug 24 23:55
DrumScumlet's see if there's still /anything/ upAug 24 23:56
DrumScumnope, completely dead network-wiseAug 24 23:58
DrumScumdamn fscking windows...Aug 24 23:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Ubuntu Oneiric gets makeover http://ur1.ca/4yni4 Top 10 Ubuntu 11.10 Features http://ur1.ca/4yni8Aug 24 23:58
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