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schestowitzPutting new skin on Vista family of products is like giving Ballmer a new hair combSep 19 00:00
DaemonFCthe GUI changes every Windows release, but the same bugs and new ones stay around foreverSep 19 00:00
DaemonFCit's clear which one they work on moreSep 19 00:00
tessierChanging the GUI is liking changing the body style on cars.Sep 19 00:02
DaemonFCit helps their partners sell more "training material"Sep 19 00:03
DaemonFChere's how you push buttons this timeSep 19 00:03
tessierIndeedSep 19 00:03
tessierThis is really going to screw up all of those people who took vocational training and were taught where the buttons to push were instead of more fundamental ideas.Sep 19 00:04
DaemonFCenterprise Linux distros make great desktopsSep 19 00:05
DaemonFCthe GUI hardly ever changes but tons of technical improvements make their way inSep 19 00:06
tessierI've been running CentOS 5 for a few years and will probably upgrade to CentOS 6.Sep 19 00:06
DaemonFCit's the opposite of WindowsSep 19 00:06
DaemonFCit'd be nice if someone was backporting new KDE releases to RHELSep 19 00:07
DaemonFCit's a rock solid baseSep 19 00:07
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DaemonFCwhat does CentOS have over Scientific Linux?Sep 19 00:15
tessier100% bug for bug RHEL compatibilitySep 19 00:15
DaemonFCI see that Scientific gets releases out a lot fasterSep 19 00:15
ThistleWindthe ability to go from a community supported install to a paid RH support with the addition of a few packages and no downtimeSep 19 00:16
tessierand vice-versaSep 19 00:18
ThistleWindyesSep 19 00:18
tessierIt doesn't bother me so much that CentOS takes a while. CentOS 5 is still a perfectly good distro.Sep 19 00:19
ThistleWindas far as I know centos is the only one that has that with RHSep 19 00:19
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schestowitzThistleWind: what server does Birch hosting use?Sep 19 00:55
ThistleWindrhelSep 19 00:55
DaemonFCschestowitz I decided to give up and use ChatzillaSep 19 00:59
DaemonFCuntil I find something it screws over royallySep 19 00:59
DaemonFC:)Sep 19 00:59
DaemonFCat least it can use SSL (through Firefox)Sep 19 00:59
DaemonFCI don't know why I used XChat so longSep 19 01:00
*DaemonFC wonders if he's just old and set in his waysSep 19 01:00
schestowitzThistleWind: same with the one I'm withSep 19 01:00
DaemonFCbefore you know it I'll be doing 10 in a 30 zone with my left blinker onSep 19 01:00
DaemonFC*sigh*Sep 19 01:01
schestowitzbut I wonderSep 19 01:01
ThistleWindyou on birch hosting too?Sep 19 01:01
schestowitzIf a host uses cwentos and advertisres that as red aht, legal hot water?Sep 19 01:01
DaemonFCcould beSep 19 01:01
DaemonFCdepends if Red Hat finds out or the customer really caresSep 19 01:01
schestowitzThistleWind: no, catalyst2Sep 19 01:01
ThistleWindbirch hosting state rhelSep 19 01:01
schestowitzthey do hosting from 12 quid a yearSep 19 01:02
DaemonFCmost people will be happy to use something that doesn't give them problemsSep 19 01:02
schestowitzFor 2gb transfer, 250mb diskSep 19 01:02
schestowitzI've been with them for almost 10 yearsSep 19 01:02
schestowitzit can gete xpensive whej a site takes up many gigabytes and occupies 2 CPU cores like techrights doesSep 19 01:03
schestowitzSo it runs on centosSep 19 01:03
DaemonFCschestowitz I wonder how popular Ubuntu Server is these daysSep 19 01:07
DaemonFCI've heard good things about thatSep 19 01:07
schestowitzI installed and set it up a few timesSep 19 01:08
schestowitzon racksSep 19 01:08
schestowitzit's just debian with another logoSep 19 01:08
DaemonFCso what's the point of it?Sep 19 01:09
schestowitzTouched up by a cosmonautSep 19 01:09
schestowitzDaemonFC: i's suppored by Canonical, I guessSep 19 01:09
schestowitzOr Canonical partnersSep 19 01:09
schestowitzOne company that I work for has a relationship with CanonicalSep 19 01:10
schestowitzoddly enough, cpanel no longer likes konqSep 19 01:13
schestowitzI temember using it without any problemSep 19 01:13
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DaemonFChttp://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Return-of-the-BIOS-trojans-1341421.htmlSep 19 01:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Return of the BIOS trojans - The H Security: News and Features .::. Size~: 39.41 KBSep 19 01:35
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DaemonFCNvidia's 285.03 blob killed UnitySep 19 01:41
schestowitzThe freemason is here!!Sep 19 01:41
schestowitz http://twitter.com/qubitarkhive/statuses/115554231234199552 http://twitter.com/qubitarkhive/statuses/115501706560815105Sep 19 01:41
TechrightsBot-tr@qubitarkhive: I was banned by a #freemasons son on #IRC #freenode http://t.co/KEVuPKEW #nwo #techrights #conspiracySep 19 01:41
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TechrightsBot-tr@qubitarkhive: @schestowitz I advocate overthrowing the government? LOL nice slanderSep 19 01:41
schestowitz http://twitter.com/qubitarkhive/statuses/115554111323246593Sep 19 01:41
TechrightsBot-tr@qubitarkhive: @schestowitz Banned by a Freemasons Son http://t.co/KEVuPKEWSep 19 01:41
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schestowitz http://twitter.com/qubitarkhive/statuses/115502072442531841Sep 19 01:41
TechrightsBot-tr@qubitarkhive: Roy @schestowitz the liar says I want to overthrow government, serious claims from someone with a #freemason son as an #ircop #freenodeSep 19 01:41
DaemonFChe's back from the Masonic lodgeSep 19 01:44
_Goblin:)Sep 19 01:44
_GoblinlolSep 19 01:44
_Goblinapparently so...Sep 19 01:44
_GoblinI presume that qubitarkhive is another one of Brandons Nyms.....Sep 19 01:45
sebsebsebschestowitz: _Goblin Would have been nice to have some of the Mageia birthday tags on Identica, but nope since it's down, hmm http://blog.mageia.org/en/2011/09/18/its-our-birthday/Sep 19 01:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: It’s our birthday!  | Mageia Blog (English) .::. Size~: 25.35 KBSep 19 01:46
schestowitzʘ‿ʘSep 19 01:50
sebsebsebschestowitz: hmm?Sep 19 01:50
sebsebsebschestowitz the birthday clown?  except now it's really the 19th as wellSep 19 01:51
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_GoblinJust read Brandons little Tirade...bless him....Sep 19 02:11
_GoblinI almost responded....then looked back on site and considered that it would just gain him the attention he wants...Sep 19 02:12
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schestowitzyesSep 19 02:13
schestowitzhe does that to get attention, that's what I said earlierSep 19 02:13
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/ still downSep 19 02:14
TechrightsBot-trError processing the URL: HTTP/1.1 503 Service UnavailableSep 19 02:14
schestowitzI reckon it won't be up in the morningSep 19 02:14
_GoblinIm not missing it....Sep 19 02:15
_GoblinDiaspora is far better for....everything...Sep 19 02:15
schestowitzuntil Diaspora suffers a DiasporaSep 19 02:16
schestowitzgnSep 19 02:18
_Goblingn mate..Sep 19 02:23
_Goblinright..... Sep 19 02:23
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MinceRi see that nutcase now links to s*it's badly written siteSep 19 06:31
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MinceRgeekingsSep 19 09:15
sosmaneveningSep 19 09:15
schestowitzLinks – Copyright Theft, Trolls and Asus Returns to GNU/Linux http://is.gd/dDZyipSep 19 09:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Links – Copyright Theft, Trolls and Asus Returns to GNU/Linux | Techrights .::. Size~: 108.63 KBSep 19 09:17
schestowitzidentica is still a clusterfsckSep 19 09:26
schestowitzThey seem to have messed up royallly and the blog hasn't had an update in a while to say when it's coming backSep 19 09:26
schestowitzCablegate: Microsoft’s Craig Mundie Lobbies for Intellectual Monopolies in China http://is.gd/MqE2Y7Sep 19 09:32
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Cablegate: Microsoft’s Craig Mundie Lobbies for Intellectual Monopolies in China | Techrights .::. Size~: 120.85 KBSep 19 09:32
schestowitzhttp://www.thinq.co.uk/2011/9/16/sinofsky-confirms-windows-8-arm-legacy-issues/Sep 19 09:37
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Sinofsky: No x86 legacy apps on Windows 8 for ARM | thinq_ .::. Size~: 26.75 KBSep 19 09:37
schestowitzUSPTO’s Violation of the First Amendment, Competition Laws, and Spirit of Creation http://is.gd/h09vT6Sep 19 10:05
TechrightsBot-trTitle: USPTO’s Violation of the First Amendment, Competition Laws, and Spirit of Creation | Techrights .::. Size~: 107.59 KBSep 19 10:06
schestowitzTrisquel 5.0 Release announcement http://trisquel.info/en/trisquel-50-release-announcement "Trisquel GNU/Linux 5.0 STS, codename Dagda."Sep 19 10:44
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Trisquel 5.0 Release announcement | Trisquel GNU/Linux - Run free! .::. Size~: 16.95 KBSep 19 10:45
schestowitzA Look at Arch Linux http://intosimple.blogspot.com/2011/09/arch-linux-my-perspective.htmlSep 19 10:45
TechrightsBot-trTitle: A Window: Arch linux: my perspective .::. Size~: 70.56 KBSep 19 10:45
schestowitzThis Is What Started AMD's Open-Source Strategy http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=amd_radeonhd_four&num=1Sep 19 10:47
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] This Is What Started AMD's Open-Source Strategy .::. Size~: 21.22 KBSep 19 10:47
schestowitzI wonder if #identica will be back some time on Monday at all. It doesn't seem like their upgrade went too well.Sep 19 10:47
schestowitzHappy 20th Birthday, Linux: 10 Cool Devices That Embrace You http://mashable.com/2011/09/17/happy-20th-birthday-linux/Sep 19 10:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Happy 20th Birthday, Linux: 10 Cool Devices That Embrace You .::. Size~: 143.16 KBSep 19 10:50
schestowitzSome people ask why #techrights no longer covers #Vista8 - just mentioning vapourware (years away) would serve rather than dis-serve itSep 19 10:53
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/obengdako/status/115724798243508224Sep 19 10:53
TechrightsBot-tr@obengdako: @schestowitz what! upgrading to version 1 had splilled over to monday?Sep 19 10:53
schestowitzYes, but let's be patientSep 19 10:53
schestowitzhttp://status.net/2011/09/16/status-of-upgrade-to-statusnet-1-0-0-on-identi-ca-and-statusnet-cloudSep 19 10:55
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Status of upgrade to StatusNet 1.0.0 on Identi.ca and StatusNet Cloud | StatusNet .::. Size~: 75.57 KBSep 19 10:55
schestowitz"busy swapping its 75M-row table from MySQL to InnoDB. We think it should go overnight just fine."Sep 19 10:55
schestowitzTI Proposes A Low-Level Linux Display Framework http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OTkyMwSep 19 11:03
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] TI Proposes A Low-Level Linux Display Framework .::. Size~: 16.01 KBSep 19 11:03
schestowitzKubuntu and KDE love story continued  http://bulldog98-jonathansblog.blogspot.com/2011/09/kubuntu-and-kde-love-story-continued.html "working on bringing KDE SC 4.7.1 to Kubuntu"Sep 19 11:05
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Jonathans Blog: Kubuntu and KDE love story continued .::. Size~: 79.24 KBSep 19 11:05
schestowitzJoli OS 1.2 review http://t.co/34gweDhb "1.1, and now 1.2 are based on the perennial Ubuntu 10.04 LTS edition"Sep 19 11:06
schestowitzSep 19 11:06
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schestowitzschestowitz - 9 mins ago - Kubuntu ChoqokSep 19 11:06
schestowitzFrancois Marier, Debian Developer http://www.mylinuxrig.com/post/10312576709/francois-marier-debian-developer "A 4-year old System76 laptop (Intel Core2 Duo, 1.5 GB Ram, 320 GB hard disk)."Sep 19 11:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Francois Marier, Debian Developer - My Linux Rig .::. Size~: 37.68 KBSep 19 11:09
schestowitzWill Ubuntu make to Mainframes? http://www.unixmen.com/software/1912-will-ubuntu-make-to-mainframes "A recent development between IBM and Canonical"Sep 19 11:11
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schestowitzFedora Design Bounty: Installer Ransom Notes http://is.gd/rvRypL "project that needs doing for the Fedora Community"Sep 19 11:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: » Fedora Design Bounty: Installer Ransom Notes Máirín Duffy .::. Size~: 48.67 KBSep 19 11:16
schestowitzLinux Mint Debian Edition 201109 Is Ready to Roll  http://www.itlure.com/2011/09/linux-mint-debian-edition-201109-is.html A Look at Linux Mint Debian EditionSep 19 11:20
TechrightsBot-trTitle: IT Lure: Linux Mint Debian Edition 201109 Is Ready to Roll .::. Size~: 87.43 KBSep 19 11:20
schestowitzFSF speaks against patent and DRM provisions at Trans-Pacific Partnership negotiators' meeting  http://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/fsf-speaks-against-tppSep 19 11:24
TechrightsBot-trTitle: FSF speaks against patent and DRM provisions at Trans-Pacific Partnership negotiators' meeting — Free Software Foundation — working together for free software .::. Size~: 28.88 KBSep 19 11:24
schestowitzTen Gnome 3 features that won me over http://www.zdnet.co.uk/news/desktop-apps/2011/09/18/ten-gnome-3-features-that-won-me-over-40093947/ Reasons to Love GNOME 3Sep 19 11:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ten Gnome 3 features that won me over | Desktop Apps | ZDNet UK .::. Size~: 56.34 KBSep 19 11:28
schestowitzChakra GNU/Linux: A Review With Screenshots http://xjonquilx.co.cc/2011/09/18/chakra-gnulinux-a-review-with-screenshots/Sep 19 11:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Chakra GNU/Linux: A Review With Screenshots | xjonquilx | Mepis, Ubuntu, Fedora, Linux, Oh My! .::. Size~: 96.56 KBSep 19 11:31
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schestowitzs 19/9/2011: Linux Mint Debian 201109, Knoppix 6.7.1 http://t.co/EWbX5Sb5 #techrightsSep 19 11:48
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schestowitzWhat's Android? http://ur1.ca/54e7i "With 500,000 activations a day, Android is becoming the dominant player in the mobile eco-system"Sep 19 12:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: What's Android? .::. Size~: 135.53 KBSep 19 12:09
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schestowitz>MyGreatFest - The iDroidProject Takes To The Stage  http://appadvice.com/appnn/2011/09/mygreatfest-the-idroidproject-takes-to-the-stage "boot a Linux kernel, and by the end of 2008, this aim had been achieved."Sep 19 12:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: MyGreatFest - The iDroidProject Takes To The Stage -- AppAdvice .::. Size~: 23.61 KBSep 19 12:11
schestowitzLinux Turns Twenty Years Old As It Continues To Take Over The World http://nexus404.com/Blog/2011/09/18/linux-turns-twenty-years-old-as-it-continues-to-take-over-the-world-wish-linux-a-happy-birthday-as-you-realize-how-many-gadgets-are-actually-powered-by-it/Sep 19 12:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux Turns Twenty Years Old As It Continues To Take Over The World [Wish Linux A Happy Birthday As You Realize How Many Gadgets Are Actually Powered By It]  | TFTS .::. Size~: 64.25 KBSep 19 12:17
iophkhttp://liw.fi/linux20/Sep 19 12:18
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux at 20, some personal memories .::. Size~: 47.56 KBSep 19 12:18
DaemonFCSeamonkey nightlies pass Acid 3 nowSep 19 12:19
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schestowitzAndroid market share doubles while Apple IOS falls eight per cent http://t.co/qJxXPh5F Linux put Apple in the ashtraySep 19 12:22
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schestowitzDaemonFC: 100/100?Sep 19 12:22
DaemonFCyesSep 19 12:23
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schestowitzGoldman to close Global Alpha fund http://www.thefrontierpost.com/?p=56585 HOT: Goldman, Sachs Acted as Exclusive Financial Advisor to Solyndra... http://www.economicpolicyjournal.com/2011/09/hot-goldman-sachs-acted-as-exclusive.htmlSep 19 12:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Frontier Post :: Business    ::  Goldman to close Global Alpha fund .::. Size~: 150.57 KBSep 19 12:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: EconomicPolicyJournal.com: HOT: Goldman, Sachs Acted as Exclusive Financial Advisor to Solyndra... .::. Size~: 90.41 KBSep 19 12:26
schestowitz#GoldmanSachs CEO hires criminal defense lawyer http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-blankfein-goldman-20110823,0,2783618.story Got Sued For #Fraud Again http://articles.businessinsider.com/2011-09-05/wall_street/30129126_1_mortgage-loans-goldman-sachs-fhfaSep 19 12:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Goldman Sachs; Lloyd Blankfein; Reid Weingarten; financial crisis - latimes.com .::. Size~: 186.2 KBSep 19 12:29
TechrightsBot-trEmpty reply from server ( http://articles.businessinsider.com/2011-09-05/wall_street/30129126_1_mortgage-loans-goldman-sachs-fhfa )Sep 19 12:29
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DaemonFCBuild identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:9.0a1) Gecko/20110919 Firefox/9.0a1 SeaMonkey/2.6a1Sep 19 12:31
DaemonFCunfortunately some pages on addons.mozilla.org won't install extensionsSep 19 12:33
DaemonFCthe button just does nothingSep 19 12:33
DaemonFCbut it is just an automated nightly build and bugs are not surprisingSep 19 12:33
schestowitzGeeXboX 2.0 has landed http://www.geexbox.org/2011/09/17/geexbox-2-0-has-landed/ Macpup 528 http://macpup.org/ IPFire 2.9 - Core Update 52 released http://www.ipfire.org/news/ipfire-2-9-core-update-52-releasedSep 19 12:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: GeeXboX » GeeXboX 2.0 has landed … .::. Size~: 38.67 KBSep 19 12:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Macpup: A beautiful derivative of Puppy Linux .::. Size~: 15.81 KBSep 19 12:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: www.ipfire.org - IPFire 2.9 - Core Update 52 released .::. Size~: 5.52 KBSep 19 12:34
DaemonFCthere's also a Seamonkey Aurora channel nowSep 19 12:34
DaemonFCit follows the Gecko version Firefox Aurora doesSep 19 12:34
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DaemonFCschestowitz http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/2436/snapshot7s.pngSep 19 12:36
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DaemonFCbefore I get rid of it and go back to a more stable branchSep 19 12:36
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DaemonFCso Gecko now passes ACID 3, I was wondering if Microsoft was going to beat them to it :)Sep 19 12:38
DaemonFCboth of them have claimed it doesn't matterSep 19 12:38
MinceRDaemonFC: where's that wallpaper from?Sep 19 12:38
DaemonFCfound it on Google image searchSep 19 12:39
DaemonFCMinceR: http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/6497/10097scifiblue.jpgSep 19 12:40
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MinceRthanksSep 19 12:41
schestowitzThe way to drive away Mac trolls is to provoke them with reality about how Linux kicks their behind. Since it's posted in pro-Linux forums, that is fine and it can hopefully drive away trolls.Sep 19 12:42
schestowitzI'm trying this these daysSep 19 12:42
schestowitzDaemonFC: is that the copyright symbol?Sep 19 12:42
schestowitzLooks a bit similarSep 19 12:43
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MinceRnopeSep 19 12:43
MinceRjust two concentric arcsSep 19 12:43
DaemonFCI made the point earlier that if the only thing Kubuntu did was keep away Unity and Mono promoters, it would be worth usingSep 19 12:43
DaemonFCI've suspected one of Xamarin's "angel" investors might be CanonicalSep 19 12:48
MinceRfallen angelSep 19 12:48
DaemonFCdump money on them anonymously and don't take any heat for itSep 19 12:48
schestowitzCanonical has issuesSep 19 12:49
schestowitzKey staff leftSep 19 12:49
DaemonFCthey got rid of Mac Asay at leastSep 19 12:50
DaemonFCthat was the biggest conflict of interest since Mozilla hired Window(s) SnyderSep 19 12:50
schestowitzHe left on his ownSep 19 12:50
schestowitzafaikSep 19 12:50
schestowitzwwwSep 19 12:51
schestowitzSnyderSep 19 12:51
schestowitz!google techrights mozilla snyderSep 19 12:51
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Links 8/5/2011: SimplyMEPIS in the Headlines | Techrights | http://techrights.org/2011/05/08/simplymepis-release/Sep 19 12:51
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - 2011 May 08 | Techrights | http://techrights.org/2011/05/08/Sep 19 12:51
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - 2011 May 27 | Techrights | http://techrights.org/2011/05/27/Sep 19 12:51
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - 2011 March 20 | Techrights | http://techrights.org/2011/03/20/Sep 19 12:51
DaemonFCher resume was security work on Windows XP and they hired her? What brand of crack were they smoking? :)Sep 19 12:51
schestowitzoddly enough it didn't l;ick that up, but she used her mozilla hat to praise ms and win32Sep 19 12:51
MinceRspyderSep 19 12:51
schestowitzI forgot where she moved to, maybe appleSep 19 12:52
schestowitzI'd have to recheckSep 19 12:52
DaemonFCyes, I didn't see her actually do anything for MozillaSep 19 12:52
DaemonFCbesides taking paychecks from themSep 19 12:52
schestowitzher fuirst name was Windows IIRCSep 19 12:52
DaemonFCand praising WindowsSep 19 12:52
schestowitzWindowSep 19 12:52
schestowitzImagine what her parents must have thoughtSep 19 12:52
MinceR"ctrl+N"?Sep 19 12:52
schestowitzGP in delievry room: "it's a girls, not a boy"Sep 19 12:53
DaemonFCI prefer ctrl+TSep 19 12:53
schestowitzparents: "geez! what should we call her now? Quick... look around the room.. WINDOW"Sep 19 12:53
DaemonFCctrl+N is for IE 6 usersSep 19 12:53
schestowitzMUGSep 19 12:53
MinceRbut if they were thinking "ctrl+T", they would have named her "Tab"Sep 19 12:53
schestowitzMug SnyderSep 19 12:53
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2008/12/11/window-snyder-out/Sep 19 12:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Quick Mention: Mozilla Detoxicated from Microsoft Influence | Techrights .::. Size~: 96.97 KBSep 19 12:54
DaemonFCat least if she turned out to be Mormon they could have called her Tab GroupSep 19 12:54
DaemonFC:)Sep 19 12:54
MinceR:DSep 19 12:55
schestowitzLOL http://www.zdnet.com/blog/security/mozillas-window-snyder-heads-to-apple/5581Sep 19 12:55
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Mozilla's Window Snyder heads to Apple | ZDNet .::. Size~: 135.36 KBSep 19 12:55
schestowitzI remembered right..Sep 19 12:55
schestowitz!google apple malwareSep 19 12:55
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - How to avoid or remove Mac Defender malware - Apple Support | http://support.apple.com/kb/ht4650Sep 19 12:55
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Crying wolf? Apple support forums confirm malware explosion | ZDNet | http://www.zdnet.com/blog/bott/crying-wolf-apple-support-forums-confirm-malware-explosion/3351Sep 19 12:55
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Apple updates malware definitions for fake Flash Player trojan ... | http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13727_7-20091760-263/apple-updates-malware-definitions-for-fake-flash-player-trojan/Sep 19 12:55
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Apple security update targets MacDefender malware | Apple Talk ... | http://news.cnet.com/8301-27076_3-20067694-248.htmlSep 19 12:55
schestowitzEven after she had left the vonvicted monopolist she was their apologistSep 19 12:56
schestowitzThese people are blind to what their employer is doingSep 19 12:56
DaemonFCMAC DEFENDER! *cue Conan the Barbarian music *It comes from a land, a far away land, of porn....* DAH DAH DAH!Sep 19 12:56
schestowitzI guess that's what paychecks tend to doSep 19 12:56
schestowitzNow she workls for Microsoft2Sep 19 12:56
schestowitzI met Mac DefenderSep 19 12:57
schestowitzThere's loads of them aroundSep 19 12:57
DaemonFChttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZY2mRG5mzgSep 19 12:57
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Conan The Barbarian - Theme       - YouTube .::. Size~: 86.12 KBSep 19 12:57
schestowitzit's when a person uses emotion and not logicSep 19 12:57
schestowitz!google arnold exposedSep 19 12:57
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Arnold Exposed | http://www.arnoldexposed.com/Sep 19 12:57
DaemonFCMinceR: Jesus is invisible, and he's all around you. Like the Predator.... :)Sep 19 12:57
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Arnold Exposed | http://www.arnoldexposed.com/arnold.htmSep 19 12:57
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Arnold Exposed | http://www.arnoldexposed.com/quotes.htmlSep 19 12:57
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Arnold Schwarzenegger- EXPOSED!! pt1 - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3D7YG3TUqPjFASep 19 12:57
schestowitz!google andre the giant cononSep 19 12:58
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Conan the Destroyer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conan_the_DestroyerSep 19 12:58
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Late Night with Conan O'Brien - TV.com | http://www.tv.com/shows/late-night-with-conan-obrien/Sep 19 12:58
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Harrison Ford has a very surreal moment on Conan O'Brien's show ... | http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1331385/Harrison-Ford-surreal-moment-Conan-OBriens-show.htmlSep 19 12:58
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - canon i560 won't turn on - fixyourownprinter.com | http://www.fixyourownprinter.com/forums/inkjet/36345Sep 19 12:58
schestowitz!google daemonfc trollSep 19 12:59
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - IRC: #techrights @ FreeNode: September 7th, 2011 | http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/irc-log-techrights-07092011.htmlSep 19 12:59
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - IRC: #techrights @ FreeNode: May 6th, 2011 | http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/irc-log-techrights-06052011.htmlSep 19 12:59
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - IRC: #techrights @ FreeNode: September 4th, 2011 | http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/irc-log-techrights-04092011.htmlSep 19 12:59
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - IRC: #techrights @ FreeNode: June 7th, 2011 | http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/irc-log-techrights-07062011.htmlSep 19 12:59
DaemonFChmmmSep 19 12:59
schestowitz!google daemonxpSep 19 12:59
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Syslog Daemon xp Embedded at Kiwi Software Informer | http://kiwi4.software.informer.com/download-kiwi-syslog-daemon-xp-embedded/Sep 19 12:59
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Aveva Global Daemon Xp Sp3 - Docs Library | http://www.docslibrary.com/pdf/aveva%2Bglobal%2Bdaemon%2Bxp%2Bsp3Sep 19 12:59
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - IRC: #boycottnovell @ FreeNode: June 12th, 2009 | http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/irc-log-12062009.htmlSep 19 12:59
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - daemonxp_博客_股票_淘股吧 | http://taoguba.com.cn/blog/19769Sep 19 12:59
DaemonFC:)Sep 19 13:00
DaemonFCbut, the ExperienceSep 19 13:00
DaemonFCit's all about the ExperienceSep 19 13:00
schestowitzthe demon experience{tm}Sep 19 13:00
schestowitzbend over, satan is angrySep 19 13:00
DaemonFCDefeat Rootkit Trojan of the Week.....500 Windows XPSep 19 13:00
DaemonFCFix Registry, Again.....100 Windows XPSep 19 13:01
DaemonFC:)Sep 19 13:01
DaemonFCMaster the Recovery Console... 1000 Windows XPSep 19 13:01
DaemonFCEnter Cheat Code for Ultimate Edition of Vista7... 10,000 Windows XPSep 19 13:02
DaemonFCB-)Sep 19 13:03
DaemonFChttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHp9oZPqs8ESep 19 13:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Battlestar Galactica Original Theme       - YouTube .::. Size~: 86.54 KBSep 19 13:04
DaemonFC:)Sep 19 13:04
MinceRDaemonFC: what, the air is Jesus?Sep 19 13:04
MinceRor just one component of it?Sep 19 13:05
DaemonFCyeah, it was campy, but at least it didn't wrap up several seasons with "God did it and Starbuck returning from the dead is left unexplained"Sep 19 13:05
DaemonFCMinceR: There is no escape from Jesus though, not even by getting to da choppaSep 19 13:06
DaemonFC:)Sep 19 13:06
MinceRN2 78%, O2 21%, Ar 1%, Jesus 1%Sep 19 13:06
schestowitzDaemonFC: he got nails and spear, no choppaSep 19 13:06
MinceRno choppa and no dakkaSep 19 13:07
DaemonFCif I was God I'd have made the atmosphere pure O2Sep 19 13:09
DaemonFCthat would teach those pesky smokersSep 19 13:09
DaemonFClight up and everyone on Earth diesSep 19 13:09
MinceRhow?Sep 19 13:10
DaemonFCof course the first lightning bolt would also do thatSep 19 13:10
DaemonFCor static clingSep 19 13:10
MinceRO2 is not fuel, no fire will happen without fuelSep 19 13:11
MinceRthough wildfires would probably spread faster in a pure O2 atmosphere...Sep 19 13:11
DaemonFCMinceR: there was a time when more of Earth's atmosphere was oxygenSep 19 13:11
DaemonFCand spiders and other bugs were the size of a buickSep 19 13:11
DaemonFC:(Sep 19 13:11
DaemonFCbring me, a very large newspaperSep 19 13:12
DaemonFCB-)Sep 19 13:12
MinceRspiders aren't bugsSep 19 13:12
DaemonFCthey're bugsSep 19 13:12
DaemonFCthey bug meSep 19 13:12
DaemonFCand I kill themSep 19 13:12
MinceRhttps://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/HemipteraSep 19 13:13
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MinceRhttps://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/AraneaeSep 19 13:13
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schestowitzi though about making meme image w/ get to the choppa and ballmer in the bgSep 19 13:14
DaemonFCget to da velopers!!!!Sep 19 13:14
DaemonFC:PSep 19 13:14
schestowitz:-]Sep 19 13:14
schestowitzit would take a whlr to gimp itSep 19 13:15
schestowitzThe text and marging the girl and then some leaping ballmer imageSep 19 13:15
schestowitz*mergingSep 19 13:15
DaemonFCI still think the Ballmer zune thing has yet to be toppedSep 19 13:16
MinceRthe way of the leaping ballmerSep 19 13:16
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schestowitzany way to ensure kwallet remembers passowrd between boots/reboots?Sep 19 13:30
schestowitzI can't find this type of tip with web searches...Sep 19 13:30
schestowitzThis would be handy http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=83197Sep 19 13:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Kwallet - Passphrase for SSH Keys? • KDE Community Forums .::. Size~: 33.61 KBSep 19 13:31
schestowitzRather than entering my passphrase likd 10,000 timesSep 19 13:32
MinceRwhy not use the ssh-agent (or what it's called)?Sep 19 13:32
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schestowitz"That's it. Now, kmail will check your mails without relying on kwallet, and will retain your mail account passwords over reboots, which, as you may well know, wasn't the case before. Kwallet will still manage your internet forms, passwords and so on, but will never bother you again with your kmail passwords."Sep 19 13:33
schestowitzhttp://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/my-10-step-program-to-make-kwallet-behave-and-stop-messing-with-your-kmail-accounts-688486/Sep 19 13:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: My 10-step program to make kwallet behave and stop messing with your kmail accounts .::. Size~: 62.82 KBSep 19 13:33
schestowitzMinceR: it has timeoutSep 19 13:33
MinceRman ssh-agent says the default lifetime is foreverSep 19 13:33
MinceRbut you can set it anywaySep 19 13:33
schestowitzMine is et to about 10 minutesSep 19 13:34
schestowitzNever tried changing itSep 19 13:34
schestowitzwhat about pgp?Sep 19 13:35
schestowitzsame issueSep 19 13:35
schestowitzanyway, I'm tired of reentering passwords on this one machine that's not criticalSep 19 13:35
schestowitzand kwallet doesn't seem to give an option to save between rebootsSep 19 13:36
MinceRit's not the machine that's critical, it's the passwords :>Sep 19 13:36
schestowitzTook me quite a while to set mint for someone such that wireless passowrd is automacially used at startb of each sessionSep 19 13:36
schestowitzfor kwallet they give optionsSep 19 13:37
schestowitzAnd it uses the most permissive one by defaulySep 19 13:37
schestowitzleast naggingSep 19 13:37
schestowitzbut kwallet is restarted in each sessionSep 19 13:37
schestowitz a kwallet save password forever thing would be of useSep 19 13:38
schestowitzif you make the machine skip the kdm/gdm part, then it's not secure anywaySep 19 13:39
MinceRdoes kwallet let you not encrypt the wallet file (so no password is needed)?Sep 19 13:39
schestowitzhttp://old.nabble.com/-Bug-162607--New:-passwordless-wallets-forget-passwords-on-logout-td17459298.htmlSep 19 13:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Old Nabble - kde-bugs-dist - [Bug 162607] New: passwordless wallets forget passwords on logout .::. Size~: 52.4 KBSep 19 13:40
schestowitzMinceR: In think it's an optionSep 19 13:40
schestowitz"kwallet currently only saves the wallet on the end of the session, so I think that's really the problem you're facing. It should however shut down correctly. Does this problem still happen for you? "Sep 19 13:41
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/ still unavailableSep 19 13:41
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schestowitzCloud Computing Era http://www.datamation.com/news/tech-comics-finding-a-job-in-the-cloud-computing-era-1.htmlSep 19 13:43
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Tech Comics: Finding a Job in The Cloud Computing Era - Datamation .::. Size~: 91.4 KBSep 19 13:43
schestowitzThe Most Comprehensive AMD Radeon Linux Graphics Comparison http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=amd_comp_oktoberfest&num=1 uber-benchmarkSep 19 13:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] The Most Comprehensive AMD Radeon Linux Graphics Comparison .::. Size~: 25.13 KBSep 19 13:51
schestowitzThis is a last post on LinuxConfig.org !  http://linuxconfig.org/this-is-a-last-post-on-linuxconfigorg all grown up, Linux is now mainstreamSep 19 13:54
TechrightsBot-tr@: Sep 19 13:54
MinceRi thought it had something to do with LinuxconfSep 19 14:00
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XFaCEschestowitz: How do I contribute an article to the reader's choice links blog post?Sep 19 14:38
XFaCEwill brbSep 19 14:38
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schestowitzXFaCE: log into the admin panelSep 19 15:06
schestowitzyour standard username and pwSep 19 15:06
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schestowitzMath problem [iMG] http://ur1.ca/54finSep 19 15:43
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DaemonFCniceSep 19 15:46
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DaemonFCthese Ubuntu fonts make it look like I'm using Microsoft Comic SansSep 19 15:50
DaemonFCI wonder if Ubuntu is copying their fonts nowSep 19 15:50
DaemonFChttps://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Comic_SansSep 19 15:50
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DaemonFCyay, rainSep 19 15:51
DaemonFC:)Sep 19 15:52
DaemonFCI guess all that praying finally.....oh right, Indiana is over 1,000 miles from TexasSep 19 15:52
DaemonFCnevermind :)Sep 19 15:52
DaemonFCGod has bad aimSep 19 15:52
DaemonFCprostate trouble I guessSep 19 15:53
XFaCEDaemonFC: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABfsIInfXgU&feature=relatedSep 19 16:07
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Crosby, Stills, Nash, & Young - American Dream       - YouTube .::. Size~: 86.6 KBSep 19 16:07
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XFaCEdaemonFC: So how's OpenGL EX or whatever it's called?Sep 19 16:12
DaemonFCESSep 19 16:13
XFaCE:PSep 19 16:13
DaemonFCand it's a much better choice for kwin than OpenGLSep 19 16:13
DaemonFCthe only drawback being that proprietary drivers don't support it at allSep 19 16:13
XFaCEThat's a a plus for meSep 19 16:14
XFaCE:)Sep 19 16:14
XFaCEIn your opinion, would it be a better choice for all composite WMs?Sep 19 16:14
DaemonFCyes, Compiz is going to support OpenGL ES some point soonSep 19 16:14
DaemonFCit's listed as a feature in progress for Ubuntu 11.10Sep 19 16:14
DaemonFCif you can use ES, do itSep 19 16:15
XFaCEXFwm?Sep 19 16:15
DaemonFCwindow managment is so much smoother that is feels like you just got a new GPUSep 19 16:15
DaemonFCxfwm doesn't use openglSep 19 16:15
DaemonFCit uses xrenderSep 19 16:15
DaemonFCbasically its compositor seems to only do whatever xcompmgr canSep 19 16:16
DaemonFCmakes me think they just slapped that code into xfwm and put a friendly config menu on itSep 19 16:16
DaemonFC*itsSep 19 16:16
DaemonFCyou can get composite support in LXDE by running xcompmgr alongside OpenboxSep 19 16:17
DaemonFCbut it's somewhat more cryptic to set upSep 19 16:17
XFaCEohSep 19 16:17
XFaCEDoes running OpenGL Es make a difference with games, etc?Sep 19 16:21
DaemonFCthe application has to specifically target itSep 19 16:22
XFaCEso in other words, other than supported wms, running opengl es, 90% of the time, is pointless?Sep 19 16:23
DaemonFCthe only thing I have using OpenGL ES is kwinSep 19 16:24
DaemonFCbut the library for Mesa to support it is tinySep 19 16:24
DaemonFCand kwin itself benefits from itSep 19 16:24
DaemonFC:)Sep 19 16:24
DaemonFCthey set up the dependencies of kubuntu-desktop so that it's satisfied with kde-window-manager or kde-window-manager-glesSep 19 16:26
DaemonFCinstalling one removes the otherSep 19 16:26
XFaCEso for a general user not using kwin, it isn't recommended in your opinion?Sep 19 16:27
DaemonFCif you want to use nonfree drivers, don't do itSep 19 16:29
DaemonFCotherwise it's a drop in replacementSep 19 16:29
XFaCEok, but what about games or other applications not designed for it?Sep 19 16:32
XFaCEDo they work properly regardless?Sep 19 16:32
schestowitzXFaCE: how's it going, mate?Sep 19 16:34
DaemonFC[11:32] <DaemonFC> things that incompetent distributions do can reflect poorly on upstream projects, but only the ones without tons of money to pay off the upstream with tend to get called out on itSep 19 16:35
DaemonFC[11:32] <DaemonFC> like Debian/FirefoxSep 19 16:35
DaemonFC[11:32] <DaemonFC> I have a feeling it's probably going on here too ;)Sep 19 16:35
*schestowitz thinks XFaCE is gonna post an awesome post in techrights todaySep 19 16:35
DaemonFCme in #kde after being flamed for blaming an OpenSuse problem on OpenSuseSep 19 16:35
XFaCEschestowitz: Kinda weird getting back in university but alrightSep 19 16:35
XFaCEschestowitz: I may contribute a link :PSep 19 16:36
schestowitzDid you get logged on?Sep 19 16:36
*schestowitz back to coding for a few minsSep 19 16:36
XFaCEyeah, forgot my password, reset, fixed profile, all goodSep 19 16:36
schestowitzXFaCE: you can't edit already-published itemsSep 19 16:36
schestowitzbut..Sep 19 16:36
schestowitzYou can accumulate links with remarks, then post them anewSep 19 16:36
schestowitzXFaCE: ah, excelelntSep 19 16:36
XFaCEI assumed soSep 19 16:36
schestowitzPost snything anytime, if it fits the  theme (copyrights too)Sep 19 16:37
schestowitzno kitten and celebs !!Sep 19 16:37
XFaCEschestowitz: So I just make a new links post, and eventually it gets posted by "Guest Editorial Team"?Sep 19 16:37
XFaCEschestowitz: Or gets consolidate into another links post?Sep 19 16:37
schestowitzIt's posted under your name as you put it in the profileSep 19 16:37
schestowitzI can add a photo/logo to be assigned to all your postsSep 19 16:38
schestowitzJust send me the one you wantSep 19 16:38
XFaCEkSep 19 16:38
schestowitzI would need to upload it and link it oin the php filesSep 19 16:38
XFaCEschestowitz: The omnibus crime bill will likely be announced with reopening of parliament, so I'm waiting for a recent article to appear; the newest one is 3 days old :SSep 19 16:39
schestowitzIn http://techrights.org/?storiesSep 19 16:39
schestowitzOn the top rightSep 19 16:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Techrights | Free Software Sentry – watching and reporting maneuvers of those threatened by software freedom .::. Size~: 229.44 KBSep 19 16:39
schestowitzI'd add your identity too.Sep 19 16:39
schestowitzWhatever it may beSep 19 16:39
schestowitzMake a first post to say hiSep 19 16:40
schestowitzIntroducting oneselfSep 19 16:40
schestowitzAnd in profile ("Users") set your identitySep 19 16:40
schestowitzAfterwards I can add a display image for youSep 19 16:40
schestowitzDo it now when I have spare time...Sep 19 16:40
schestowitzhello world postSep 19 16:40
schestowitz[16:35] <DaemonFC> me in #kde after being flamed for blaming an OpenSuse problem on OpenSuseSep 19 16:41
XFaCEschestowitz: ok... what if I just want to contribute to the Guest Editorial Team?Sep 19 16:41
schestowitzDaemonFC: Did they kick you outSep 19 16:41
schestowitzXFaCE: then you need the login for that accountSep 19 16:41
DaemonFCnoSep 19 16:41
schestowitzlet me send it to you nowSep 19 16:41
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XFaCEschestowitz: log-in successfulSep 19 16:45
MinceRhttp://de3.eu.apcdn.com/full/45453.jpgSep 19 16:46
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schestowitzXFaCE: ]0/Sep 19 16:48
schestowitzI hope you'll contribute some good stuff for the readers to view and useSep 19 16:48
schestowitztook us 5 years to gain those readers :-)Sep 19 16:48
schestowitz[16:43] <schestowitz> Try now plsSep 19 16:49
schestowitz[16:43] <schestowitz> say if it worksSep 19 16:49
schestowitz[16:43] <schestowitz> make a postSep 19 16:49
schestowitzSep 19 16:49
schestowitz[16:44] <XFaCE> make a post about what?Sep 19 16:49
schestowitz[16:44] <XFaCE> anything? :DSep 19 16:49
schestowitzmaybe self introductionSep 19 16:49
schestowitzI made one back in  July Sep 19 16:49
schestowitzWe need to open the site to more people, I can't spend much time running it anymoreSep 19 16:49
schestowitzAnd maybe I get promoted next month, which means more hours spent in one of my jobsSep 19 16:50
schestowitzSo I want others to take over more parts of the siteSep 19 16:50
XFaCEdaemonFC: so just to recap, how did you install opengl es again?Sep 19 16:50
schestowitzThe important thing is that a site exists which keeps an eye on patent abuses and Linux foesSep 19 16:51
DaemonFCit's a dependency of the gles version of kwinSep 19 16:51
schestowitzThis has been our #1 goal all alongSep 19 16:51
schestowitzSame for copyright maximalists and other customer-hostile elites who take over the world digitally, stompoing on our tech rights with DRM, e-spying, etc.Sep 19 16:51
schestowitzDaemonFC: how do you find kwin in 4.7?Sep 19 16:52
schestowitzAnything new in there?Sep 19 16:52
XFaCEschestowitz: Well the new Canadian copyright law, c32, is definitely a concernSep 19 16:52
schestowitzLike effects and all?Sep 19 16:52
schestowitzI can't identify anything in 4.7 (with subtance anyway) that I don't already have in 4.4 (LTS)Sep 19 16:52
XFaCEschestowitz: No tolerance on breaking digital handcuffs =crippled free softwareSep 19 16:52
schestowitzXFaCE: please let people know about it theSep 19 16:52
schestowitzthenSep 19 16:52
DaemonFCkde-window-manager (OpenGL) or kde-window-manager-gles (ES) in KubuntuSep 19 16:52
schestowitzHelp people lke GeistSep 19 16:53
schestowitzHe's too busy at workSep 19 16:53
schestowitzhe hardlt tweets this monthSep 19 16:53
XFaCEHis articles are still coming out at a regular rateSep 19 16:53
schestowitznot reallySep 19 16:53
schestowitzmaybe once in 2 daysSep 19 16:53
schestowitzhe used to post moreSep 19 16:53
XFaCEI just got 4 posts today aloneSep 19 16:53
schestowitzI syndicate him in two places, he was hardly visible as of lateSep 19 16:53
schestowitzXFaCE: BTW, we managed to contain wiki spammers a bit...Sep 19 16:54
schestowitzMaybe soon it'll hardly be an issue anymoreSep 19 16:54
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XFaCEschestowitz: because of or in spite of the wiki registration disabling?Sep 19 16:57
schestowitzbecauseSep 19 16:57
schestowitzthere is another kind gentleman helping to swat the spammers very fastSep 19 16:57
schestowitzso they hardly make attempts nowSep 19 16:58
XFaCEdoes this other kind gentleman have a avatar?Sep 19 16:59
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DaemonFChttp://toastytech.com/evil/errw2008.gifSep 19 17:01
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XFaCElol, good old Nathan LinebackSep 19 17:03
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schestowitzXFaCE: noSep 19 17:17
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DaemonFChttp://pics.kuvaton.com/bshit/star_wars_terrorist.jpgSep 19 17:27
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schestowitz> Hi Friend!Sep 19 17:53
schestowitz> Sep 19 17:53
schestowitz> http://betanews.com/2011/09/19/nokia-delisted-from-europes-top-50-stock-index-after-massive-drop/Sep 19 17:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Nokia delisted from top 50 European stock index after massive drop .::. Size~: 23.46 KBSep 19 17:53
schestowitz> http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2110206/microsoft-iis-market-share-plummet-1997-levelsSep 19 17:53
schestowitz> http://www.geek.com/articles/news/internet-explorer-10-metro-will-not-support-flash-silverlight-20110915/Sep 19 17:53
schestowitz> http://www.livemint.com/2011/09/09143304/Microsoft-fix-Hotmail-after-ma.htmlSep 19 17:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft sees iis market share plummet to 1997 levels- The Inquirer .::. Size~: 61.97 KBSep 19 17:53
schestowitz> Sep 19 17:53
schestowitz> Sep 19 17:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Internet Explorer 10 Metro will not support Flash, Silverlight – Tech Products & Geek News | Geek.com .::. Size~: 61.3 KBSep 19 17:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft fix Hotmail after major outage - Technology - livemint.com .::. Size~: 88.79 KBSep 19 17:53
schestowitz> Techrights show now excellent articles! Thanks Roy!Sep 19 17:53
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iophkIIS marketshare could be dropping because the platform it runs on, Windows, might be disappearing from the server room.  It's one possiblity.Sep 19 18:12
schestowitzmaybe some apache runs on WIndowsSep 19 18:13
schestowitzMicrosoft invaded apacheSep 19 18:13
schestowitzBut N haven;t seen apache on Windows in agesSep 19 18:13
schestowitzMaybe once around 2006Sep 19 18:13
schestowitzWhen a colleague tried it... was down a lotSep 19 18:14
iophkThere's not point in running Apache on Windows, you get the instability of WIndows as the foundation.Sep 19 18:14
schestowitzPutting apache on Win32 is like putting a Rolls Royce on a SkateboardSep 19 18:14
iophkThe machine has to reboot 5x during business hours alone.Sep 19 18:14
iophkI know people that tried it.  It was a failure.Sep 19 18:15
schestowitzSOmeone has just mailed me these:Sep 19 18:15
schestowitz> http://www.dailytech.com/EU+Still+Investigating+Google+Search+Dominance+Unsure+About+Competitive+Abuse/article22758.htmSep 19 18:15
schestowitz> http://www.dailytech.com/Ballmer+Admits+Windows+Phone+7+Sales+Are+Disappointing/article22747.htmSep 19 18:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: DailyTech - EU Still Investigating Google Search Dominance; Unsure About Competitive Abuse .::. Size~: 125.74 KBSep 19 18:15
schestowitz> http://www.computerweekly.com/Articles/2011/09/15/247907/european-commission-buys-microsoft-for-20-years-without-competition.htmSep 19 18:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: DailyTech - Ballmer Admits Windows Phone 7 Sales Are Disappointing .::. Size~: 242.52 KBSep 19 18:15
schestowitz> http://articles.businessinsider.com/2011-09-16/tech/30164148_1_aol-and-yahoo-msn-portal-spaceSep 19 18:15
schestowitz> http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/09/15/us-microsoft-analysts-idUSTRE78E0FR20110915?utm_source=Triggermail&utm_medium=email&utm_term=Microsoft%20Investor&utm_campaign=MicrosoftInvestor_Newsletter_091511Sep 19 18:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: European Commission buys Microsoft for 20 years without competition - 9/15/2011 - Computer Weekly .::. Size~: 70.25 KBSep 19 18:15
TechrightsBot-trEmpty reply from server ( http://articles.businessinsider.com/2011-09-16/tech/30164148_1_aol-and-yahoo-msn-portal-space )Sep 19 18:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Investors fail to bite at Microsoft Wall Street pow-wow | Reuters .::. Size~: 100.02 KBSep 19 18:15
iophkWe've seen the ComputerWeekly article beforeSep 19 18:16
iophkM$ gets bought because insiders find ways to avoid pricing anything else.Sep 19 18:16
schestowitzyupSep 19 18:20
iophkThen there are the plain old illegal tenders.Sep 19 18:20
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sebsebsebschestowitz: Identica still down hmmSep 19 18:21
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iophkHow many days has it been down for?Sep 19 18:29
schestowitz3Sep 19 18:29
sebsebsebwho's iophkSep 19 18:33
sebsebsebschestowitz: I thought it would be up by now, but nopeSep 19 18:33
sebsebseband I been reading the blog post with the updatesSep 19 18:33
iophkLinux.com has been under renewal for days , too.Sep 19 18:33
sebsebsebiophk: what you mean renewal?Sep 19 18:33
iophk"Linux Foundation infrastructure including LinuxFoundation.org, Linux.com, and their subdomains are down for maintenance due ..."Sep 19 18:34
sebsebsebiophk: yep since they got broken in toSep 19 18:34
schestowitzI wonder at what capacity LF is pursuing thisSep 19 18:35
schestowitzIt's bad for the reputation of LinuxSep 19 18:35
schestowitzThey need to get it sortted out ASAPSep 19 18:35
iophkIt probably depends on how much data they have on the intrusion.Sep 19 18:35
schestowitzI assume they get access to the gurusSep 19 18:36
schestowitzBut...Sep 19 18:36
schestowitzConsider what Sony went throughSep 19 18:36
schestowitzBad online, cracked again, and several several timesSep 19 18:36
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schestowitzWe only know of one single LF/kernel.org intrusionSep 19 18:36
schestowitzvia a user accountSep 19 18:36
schestowitzmaybe some windows account holding a passwordSep 19 18:37
schestowitzThe LF just needs to ensure it doesn't happen againSep 19 18:37
*sebsebseb wonders who iophk isSep 19 18:37
*schestowitz wonders who sebsebseb isSep 19 18:37
sebsebsebschestowitz: you have an idea who I amSep 19 18:37
schestowitznopeSep 19 18:37
*sebsebseb wonders who schestowitz is other than that crazy blogger :DSep 19 18:37
schestowitznever saw your photo, last name, etc.Sep 19 18:37
schestowitziophk I spoke to over SIPSep 19 18:38
schestowitzI just found an issue that I thought was a bugSep 19 18:39
schestowitztook an hour of my timeSep 19 18:39
schestowitzTurned out my pathdef included some code with dusplicate filenames, so I was in fact invoking code I hadn't intended to runSep 19 18:40
schestowitzI have those issues..Sep 19 18:40
schestowitzProgramming is the practice os shasing down bugsSep 19 18:40
schestowitzThe faster you do that, the better you are, I guess, unless you're in the process of writing something from scratchSep 19 18:41
schestowitzThe final outcome may seem like it's just someone sitting down, fluently writing an essay formulationSep 19 18:41
schestowitzSame with equations in papersSep 19 18:41
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*XFaCE is nauseous over omnibus bill.Sep 19 19:08
XFaCEsebsebseb: It's time like this you could just contrive a clever strategy to stop bad guys.Sep 19 19:09
XFaCE* you wish you couldSep 19 19:09
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DaemonFCI decided to see what kwin would do with the GL ES backend if I loaded FGLRXSep 19 19:17
DaemonFCit turned the compositor offSep 19 19:17
DaemonFCFGLRX has been claiming ES 2 compatibility for a whileSep 19 19:17
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koolhead17hi allSep 19 19:23
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sebsebsebkoolhead17: hiSep 19 19:25
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DaemonFCwhy is kmail sending my email domain as my hostname?Sep 19 19:27
MinceRbecause it's stupidSep 19 19:27
Kryczekbecause it canSep 19 19:27
DaemonFCso much for an account wizardSep 19 19:27
Kryczek:DSep 19 19:27
koolhead17hey guysSep 19 19:28
KryczekheySep 19 19:28
koolhead17Kryczek: wassup manSep 19 19:28
Kryczek(sorry was about to leave)Sep 19 19:28
koolhead17heheheSep 19 19:28
koolhead17okSep 19 19:28
koolhead17laters :PSep 19 19:28
Kryczek7.27pm, leaving the office :PSep 19 19:28
KryczekcheersSep 19 19:28
koolhead17lolSep 19 19:28
koolhead17it 12 am for meSep 19 19:28
DaemonFCmust not killSep 19 19:29
DaemonFChow can anything be this stupid?Sep 19 19:29
koolhead17DaemonFC: ?Sep 19 19:29
koolhead17what happened?Sep 19 19:29
DaemonFCkmail is being retardedSep 19 19:31
koolhead17:PSep 19 19:31
koolhead17laawlSep 19 19:31
schestowitzkmail is being kmailSep 19 19:32
schestowitzI left kmail in 2004Sep 19 19:32
schestowitziircvSep 19 19:32
schestowitziircSep 19 19:32
schestowitzAnd it was not so simple to export from it, eitherSep 19 19:32
schestowitzIIRC the old mail that I have it just pile of attachment, each being a messageSep 19 19:32
schestowitzFrom other clientsSep 19 19:32
koolhead17use clwas thenSep 19 19:32
koolhead17:)Sep 19 19:32
schestowitzKmail did maildoir and mbox okSep 19 19:33
koolhead17clawsSep 19 19:33
schestowitzSo I could import into thunderbirdSep 19 19:33
schestowitzjabba uses clawsSep 19 19:33
MinceRit is super effective!Sep 19 19:33
DaemonFCI hate KMail 2 alreadySep 19 19:37
DaemonFCthe original was easier to set upSep 19 19:37
DaemonFCfinally I got this to send my message after fucking around with it for half an hourSep 19 19:37
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DaemonFCThunderbird is more intuitive than thisSep 19 19:38
DaemonFCthat is sadSep 19 19:38
MinceRthunderbird 6?Sep 19 19:38
XFaCEDaemonFC: WHAT IS?Sep 19 19:39
MinceRit has the most annoying account setup wizard i've ever seenSep 19 19:39
XFaCEoopsSep 19 19:39
DaemonFCBloatzilla ThunderbloatSep 19 19:39
XFaCEMore intuitive than what?Sep 19 19:39
MinceRof the "i think this is wrong so i won't let you enter it and proceed" varietySep 19 19:39
DaemonFCKMailSep 19 19:39
XFaCEagSep 19 19:39
XFaCEahSep 19 19:39
DaemonFCthis is like the dumbest piece of shit email client everSep 19 19:39
DaemonFCgah!Sep 19 19:39
XFaCETried Claws Mail?Sep 19 19:39
MinceRi mightSep 19 19:40
DaemonFCSylpheed is betterSep 19 19:40
MinceRi don't know the difference between those twoSep 19 19:40
DaemonFCthey got a little carried away with ClawsSep 19 19:40
XFaCESeamonkey Mail is surprisingly goodSep 19 19:40
DaemonFCas a result it's huge and slow and has tons of annoying "features" that I don't needSep 19 19:40
XFaCE"Huge" is an overstatementSep 19 19:41
XFaCEcompared to Thunderbird...Sep 19 19:41
DaemonFCcompared to Thunderbird, anything is sleek and fastSep 19 19:42
MinceRnopeSep 19 19:42
MinceRremember Evolution?Sep 19 19:43
DaemonFCI've already said I believe HTML email is a crime against humanitySep 19 19:43
DaemonFCB-)Sep 19 19:43
XFaCEHmm... what about RTF mail?Sep 19 19:43
DaemonFCRTF is pretty thoroughly reverse engineeredSep 19 19:43
MinceRi don't believe HTML email is a crime against humanity, but m$-RTF certainly isSep 19 19:43
DaemonFCMicrosoft has stopped bloating itSep 19 19:43
MinceRas is m$-doc and OOXMLSep 19 19:44
XFaCEWell, a lot of things from Microsoft are crimes against humanitySep 19 19:44
DaemonFCRTF is a hell of a lot better than getting a docxSep 19 19:44
MinceRit's still hellSep 19 19:44
MinceRespecially for stuff plaintext and html would have sufficedSep 19 19:44
MinceRs/and/or/Sep 19 19:44
XFaCEMSHTML? ;)Sep 19 19:44
MinceRthat's another crime against humanitySep 19 19:45
MinceRbblSep 19 19:45
XFaCEDaemonFC: "According to Microsoft's Office 2010 resource kit documentation, Microsoft is discontinuing enhancements to the RTF specification".  Is that what you are refering to?Sep 19 19:47
DaemonFCsylpheed gets rid of the HTML formatting crapSep 19 19:47
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/gard09/statuses/115766461414387712Sep 19 19:47
TechrightsBot-tr@gard09: http://t.co/6iCM9Vgv @reckless you were interested in info on Scott Cleland, found this...Sep 19 19:47
TechrightsBot-tr@: Sep 19 19:47
DaemonFCand converts the message to plaintext with links intactSep 19 19:47
DaemonFCI love thatSep 19 19:47
DaemonFCLOVE ITSep 19 19:47
DaemonFCunlike some clients that give you ugly crap that makes you WANT to go blindSep 19 19:48
XFaCElinks intact?  I assume you mean just the urls with no hyperlinks or any crap like that.Sep 19 19:49
DaemonFCit leaved them as hyperlinksSep 19 19:49
DaemonFCit distinguishes them by making them greenSep 19 19:50
XFaCEHow does that work?Sep 19 19:52
XFaCEIf it's simple plain text?Sep 19 19:52
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XFaCEI assume sylpheed converts the links in plain text emails itselfSep 19 19:54
XFaCEin other words, not too useful for those not using Sylpheed (or Claws Mail I assume)Sep 19 19:55
schestowitz"2011-09-19 09:00EDT: We've completed data conversion for identi.ca; we're going to run some tests and then start bringing the site online later this morning. Other status.net sites are coming on-line at a pretty fast rate."Sep 19 20:03
DaemonFChttps://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/271731_700b.jpgSep 19 20:03
TechrightsBot-trNot a web page! Aborting image/jpeg typeSep 19 20:03
schestowitzOh, good, it'll come back online laterSep 19 20:03
schestowitzBetter late than broken (I have about 50k pages there)Sep 19 20:03
DaemonFChttps://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/271675_700b.jpgSep 19 20:04
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DaemonFChttp://9gag.com/gag/271468Sep 19 20:07
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 9GAG - Go, Sell everything .::. Size~: 23.44 KBSep 19 20:07
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XFaCEDaemonFC: lol to all of themSep 19 20:11
XFaCEdaemonfc: also, sad but trueSep 19 20:12
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DaemonFC"There also isn't much more of a conclusion since the large number of readers using AdBlock ruin it for the rest of you"Sep 19 20:31
DaemonFCfrom PhoronixSep 19 20:32
DaemonFCnow he's bitching about people not wanting skyscraper Microsoft ads that cover the entire pageSep 19 20:32
DaemonFChttp://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=amd_comp_oktoberfest&num=38Sep 19 20:32
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] The Most Comprehensive AMD Radeon Linux Graphics Comparison .::. Size~: 25.11 KBSep 19 20:32
DaemonFCFFS you could at least try fact checking maybe you could go on a journalism night course instead of going to Oktoberfest next yearSep 19 20:33
DaemonFCThe weather channel had nothing to do with the r300 classic driver. It was reverse engineered by a team of 5-7 people over years. I dont think anyone was funded for it ever. The WC funded r100 and r200 drivers which were nothing like the r300. Sep 19 20:33
DaemonFC-Dave Airlie's responseSep 19 20:33
DaemonFChttp://phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?60892-The-Most-Comprehensive-AMD-Radeon-Linux-Graphics-Comparison&p=228285&posted=1#post228285Sep 19 20:37
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Most Comprehensive AMD Radeon Linux Graphics Comparison - Page 4 .::. Size~: 51.77 KBSep 19 20:37
DaemonFC:)Sep 19 20:37
DaemonFC"That is, if he thinks anyone will pay for his churnalism. "Sep 19 20:38
DaemonFC:)Sep 19 20:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks: Israel held indirect contacts with Iranian sources on Gilad Shalit | Haaretz http://t.co/oBPGEnYDSep 19 20:47
TechrightsBot-tr@: Sep 19 20:47
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MinceRDaemonFC: idg won't pay him any more even if he writes better articles. in some cases, it might even be counterproductive. :>Sep 19 20:56
DaemonFCcounterproductive?Sep 19 21:05
MinceRwell, you know idg's agendaSep 19 21:05
DaemonFCyou mean since he'd have to slow down and write a good one rather than shit out 3 bad ones?Sep 19 21:06
MinceRi mean writing too many facts too well could result in idg getting mad at him for not propping up m$ enoughSep 19 21:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Hello 1.0.0 world!Sep 19 21:13
DaemonFCso MinceR....Sep 19 21:13
DaemonFCHow do YOU plan to celebrate Steam on Linux? :)Sep 19 21:13
MinceRi don'tSep 19 21:14
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MinceRwhat's going on with steam on gnu/linux?Sep 19 21:21
DaemonFCnothingSep 19 21:21
XFaCEMinceR: I believe DaemonFC was being sarcasticSep 19 21:22
MinceRicSep 19 21:22
DaemonFCPhoronix has this whole Groundhog Day thing about Steam on LinuxSep 19 21:22
XFaCEYep, big hooplah about nothingSep 19 21:22
XFaCEDaemonFC: I suppose we could have celebrated the creation of this page http://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Steam_under_LinuxSep 19 21:24
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Steam under Linux - Valve Developer Community .::. Size~: 26.27 KBSep 19 21:24
XFaCEwootSep 19 21:24
DaemonFC3 Step 1: setting up WineSep 19 21:25
DaemonFCthat's mistake number 1Sep 19 21:25
DaemonFCthen you spend hours of your life to get a stupid game to work and it usually doesn'tSep 19 21:25
XFaCEDaemonFC: Those are table of contents numbers...Sep 19 21:26
XFaCEpage numbers, if you willSep 19 21:26
DaemonFCno I mean Games + Wine = catastrophe much of the timeSep 19 21:26
DaemonFCnewer ones anywaySep 19 21:26
XFaCEsorohSep 19 21:27
XFaCEoh lolSep 19 21:27
XFaCEDaemonFC: Screw Steam, let's go set up a BZFlag server. :)Sep 19 21:27
DaemonFCHover.exe anyone?Sep 19 21:28
DaemonFC:)Sep 19 21:28
XFaCEXbillSep 19 21:28
DaemonFChttps://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Hover!Sep 19 21:28
TechrightsBot-trError processing the URL: HTTP/1.1 403 ForbiddenSep 19 21:28
XFaCEoh yeah, that posSep 19 21:29
XFaCEPlayed it a few times on an old notebook running 95 and a slow-refresh monitorSep 19 21:29
XFaCEickSep 19 21:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] operation "Rip the DVD collection" continues. Now ripping Underworld EvolutionSep 19 21:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Me too!Sep 19 21:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] What happens?Sep 19 21:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Oh, that happens. OK, on it!Sep 19 21:30
DaemonFCftp://ftp.microsoft.com/deskapps/games/public/AAS/Hover.EXESep 19 21:30
XFaCEI'd rather play Bad command or file nameSep 19 21:31
XFaCElol, I though that said "ASS" for a secondSep 19 21:32
XFaCEDaemonFC: !google skyroadsSep 19 21:33
XFaCE!google skyroadsSep 19 21:33
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - SkyRoads | http://www.bluemoon.ee/history/skyroads/Sep 19 21:33
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - SWFROADS | http://hummezum.hu/swfroads/Sep 19 21:33
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - SkyRoads (video game) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SkyRoads_(video_game)Sep 19 21:33
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Sky Roads Games | http://www.funnygames.co.uk/sky-roads.htmlSep 19 21:33
MinceR(animated) http://imgur.com/gallery/dM35lSep 19 21:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ugh, I have to use the human again - Imgur .::. Size~: 39.08 KBSep 19 21:34
DaemonFChttps://blogs.msdn.com/b/oldnewthing/archive/2010/03/11/9976571.aspxSep 19 21:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Application compatibility layers are there for the customer, not for the program - The Old New Thing - Site Home - MSDN Blogs .::. Size~: 53.49 KBSep 19 21:36
DaemonFChehSep 19 21:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] Sooooooo... we're back (kinda...) !identica rules!!! ;)Sep 19 21:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Hey!Sep 19 21:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[faither/@faither] Welcome back !identiverseSep 19 21:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Hey, how are you? Have you been keeping the federated social web warm for us?Sep 19 21:50
XFaCEDaemonFC: Have you been on Identi of late?Sep 19 21:51
XFaCEDaemonFC: as in, since it came back online?Sep 19 21:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Evan Prodromou (http://identi.ca/evan) liked Debian Project's status (http://identi.ca/notice/84169651).Sep 19 21:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] So who else will be in Paris for #OWF? I will land tmrw and leave saturday morning.Sep 19 21:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] yay! identi.ca is back! the intertubes felt lonely without it! thanks @supportSep 19 21:56
TechrightsBot-trError processing the URL: HTTP/1.1 404 Not FoundSep 19 21:57
TechrightsBot-trNot a dent?Sep 19 21:57
XFaCEDaemonFC: Never mindSep 19 22:00
DaemonFChttp://i.imgur.com/GH9f7.jpgSep 19 22:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] Reeeeeeeeeeeee, !EOL xDSep 19 22:08
MinceR:)Sep 19 22:15
MinceRhttp://farm3.static.flickr.com/2201/2078887934_453dd96899.jpgSep 19 22:15
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sebsebsebschestowitz: Hmm so Identica was back, for it to be put down againSep 19 22:25
XFaCEsebsebseb: Meh, shit happens.Sep 19 22:27
XFaCEPerfection takes time.Sep 19 22:27
XFaCEand patienceSep 19 22:27
XFaCEand shiny new interfacesSep 19 22:27
sebsebsebXFaCE: I hope this 1.0 isSep 19 22:28
sebsebsebworth all this down timeSep 19 22:28
XFaCEBelieve it will beSep 19 22:28
XFaCEI'm trying to make a new identi.ca, a little tough considering present conditions :)Sep 19 22:29
sebsebsebXFaCE: a new identica?Sep 19 22:29
sebsebsebyou mean your own status.net site?Sep 19 22:29
DaemonFCI got a letter from Netflix, gist of it isSep 19 22:29
DaemonFCWe're real sorry we jacked the price. Here's what we're doing about it. 1. Keeping the new price. 2. Calling the DVD by mail rental system something else.Sep 19 22:29
DaemonFC:)Sep 19 22:29
XFaCEsebsebseb, nah, just a new account on identi.caSep 19 22:31
sebsebsebXFaCE: why?Sep 19 22:31
sebsebsebthen ame?Sep 19 22:31
sebsebsebname?Sep 19 22:31
sebsebsebXFaCE: why not just keep your old name on there, keep your old dent number whilst doing that as well :DSep 19 22:31
XFaCEyeah, and the fact the old was deletedSep 19 22:31
sebsebseband add to itSep 19 22:31
sebsebseboh you deleted  the old why?Sep 19 22:31
XFaCEPersonal reasonsSep 19 22:31
sebsebsebXFaCE: well jion the !identiverse group I guess, when things are back u pproperly, and you got your new name :DSep 19 22:32
XFaCEI backed up all the dents of course, so if Roy or anyone would like to refer to something, I can supplySep 19 22:32
DaemonFCSkipscreen won't install into SeamonkeySep 19 22:32
DaemonFCit says I have Firefox 2.5Sep 19 22:33
DaemonFC:/Sep 19 22:33
XFaCEHa.Sep 19 22:33
sebsebsebmy monitor says DaemonFC on it hmmSep 19 22:33
sebsebseb7 times right now as wellSep 19 22:33
sebsebsebXFaCE: worried you typed bad stuff and put online? so deleted your old account?Sep 19 22:34
XFaCEsort ofSep 19 22:34
XFaCEactually, not reallySep 19 22:34
XFaCEBRB, time for a 30+ min driveSep 19 22:34
sebsebsebXFaCE: ohSep 19 22:35
XFaCEsebsebseb: You better be online, or my night is ruined! :PSep 19 22:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] We may have a mode for switching back and forth between "conversation mode" and "stream mode" in future versions.Sep 19 22:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[faither/@faither] Damn I hate you #GEMA ! Can't watch anything on #youtube without going through a proxy these days...Sep 19 22:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Evan Prodromou (http://identi.ca/evan) liked djura-san's status (http://identi.ca/notice/84170299).Sep 19 22:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] "Trivia" Monday, 19-Sep-11 20:30:00 EDT - Monday, 19-Sep-11 22:30:00 EDT (2 Perkins Street, Jamaica Plain, MA 02130): Sep 19 22:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] Matt Lee is attending Trivia.Sep 19 22:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Evan Prodromou is not attending Trivia.Sep 19 22:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Hey there!Sep 19 22:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] That's the likely situation, yes.Sep 19 22:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Evan Prodromou (http://identi.ca/evan) liked Chimo's status (http://identi.ca/notice/84169175).Sep 19 22:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] Matt Lee (http://identi.ca/url/53807040) liked Evan Prodromou's status (http://identi.ca/url/53807041).Sep 19 22:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[copiesofcopies/@copiesofcopies] Instant unpleasant reaction to #identica redesign. 3-column design is cluttered and corporatish. And why does the header say "Status.net"?Sep 19 22:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RD @threethirty @purge: Back from the dark side of the moon!! Nice work and thanks to all the #StatusNet #StatusNet team!! Take a bow :)Sep 19 22:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] It seems like when I try to repeat, !identicurse crashes. That never used to happen so it must be related to the change?Sep 19 22:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @jankusanagi Why kinda?Sep 19 22:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] The !Identica APIs are a bit slow, but I guess that's the throng coming back all at once?Sep 19 22:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Is !xmpp working yet? I'll check after acuppa teaSep 19 22:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Quoth @threethirty to @evan: "welcome back sir" and I second thatSep 19 22:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Schestowitz (http://identi.ca/schestowitz) liked Evan Prodromou's status (http://identi.ca/notice/84169156).Sep 19 22:39
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sebsebsebschestowitz: it's back again :DSep 19 22:40
sebsebsebthis time was able to get on itSep 19 22:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] This new interface seems messed up to me. Is everyone seeing what I am seeing?Sep 19 22:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] Hey colleagues... reply if you get this.Sep 19 22:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] Begin And Persist: http://zotzbro.blogspot.com/2011/09/beginandpersist.html Thoughts?Sep 19 22:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] identica mode testSep 19 22:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] test. does this need a modern browser?Sep 19 22:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] @evan we were eagerly waiting :D -- I guess some sort of "identi.ca branding" will come back later, right? :PSep 19 22:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I wondered what was going onSep 19 22:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] Ah, and it's good to have you back, identi.ca! :)Sep 19 22:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Thanks! We're glad to be back.Sep 19 22:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] voted for "Yes"Sep 19 22:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @evan Also, almost everyone in my stream is on all at once. I can't ever remember that happening before. Enormous loading?Sep 19 22:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Planet fun!Sep 19 22:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] We have some really bad queries we need to fix; they were bringing our servers to a halt. Always good to find that stuff.Sep 19 22:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] Was it in git?Sep 19 22:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Trying 2 upd8 Status.Net w/ !Choqok: "Creating the new post failed, with error: You must validate your email address before posting"Sep 19 22:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Evan Prodromou (http://identi.ca/evan) liked Matt Lee's status (http://identi.ca/notice/84171198).Sep 19 22:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @evan I just meant it's very busy, not a continuity error, sorry for any confusion. I was saying it was slow, but not so much now anywaySep 19 22:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @jankusanagi It's actually starting to speed up a bit nowSep 19 23:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @jankusanagi I just realised what @evan meant about caching, must be starting to kick in nowSep 19 23:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] New logo http://identi.ca/attachment/53807456Sep 19 23:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Yikes. Things look a little different 'round here. <uh oh, I sense learning might be necessarySep 19 23:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Okay... yay. No more accidentally posting with accidental carriage returns (that's enter to you young pups) !silverSep 19 23:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] Sebastian (http://identi.ca/sebsebseb) joined the group StatusNet (http://identi.ca/group/statusnet).Sep 19 23:04
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MinceRgnSep 19 23:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[stumbles/@stumbles] Upgrading my desktop and laptop computers to #Trisquel 5.0 http://trisquel.info/Sep 19 23:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] voted for "On"Sep 19 23:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] hello identiverseSep 19 23:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Richard Fontana is not attending Trivia.Sep 19 23:07
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*abeNd-org (~KKlenke@66-76-242-68-bcst.tex.sta.suddenlink.net) has joined #techrightsSep 19 23:09
abeNd-orgwow, http://betanews.com/2011/09/19/sony-i-wont-sign-away-my-right-to-sue/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+bn+%28Betanews+Full+Content+Feed+-+BN%29Sep 19 23:12
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abeNd-orgsony has some digital balls!Sep 19 23:12
DaemonFCFony Sep 19 23:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Yes. We are establishing a real names policy. Everyone will have to send a PGP-signed copy of their passport pictures.Sep 19 23:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] I'm there Weds night to Sunday morning...Sep 19 23:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] I'm not sure I understand. Do you see the little triangle?Sep 19 23:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] ... countersigned by at least four great-grandparents.Sep 19 23:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] jezra (http://identi.ca/jezra) liked Psychedelic Squid's status (http://identi.ca/notice/84171605).Sep 19 23:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Thanks! That means a lot!Sep 19 23:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] ♺ @psquid: FUCK EVERYTHING ABOUT ACTIVITY POSTSSep 19 23:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] How's that going? Are you hackin' on StatusNet mobile and desktop?Sep 19 23:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Yes, but we've got a "blog" plugin that we're going to enable soon. It's WYSIWYG .Sep 19 23:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Evan Prodromou (http://identi.ca/evan) liked Stav Prodromou's status (http://identi.ca/notice/84171354).Sep 19 23:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Nice avatar!Sep 19 23:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] That is !disturbingSep 19 23:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] Danny Piccirillo (http://identi.ca/dpic) stopped liking Danny Piccirillo's status (http://identi.ca/notice/84134497).Sep 19 23:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] Danny Piccirillo (http://identi.ca/dpic) liked Danny Piccirillo's status (http://identi.ca/notice/84134360).Sep 19 23:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] is the IM/XMPP/Jabber identi.ca gateway intentionally disabled too? is it coming back soon? thanks, nice work otherwise! /cc @supportSep 19 23:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] Danny Piccirillo (http://identi.ca/dpic) started following Marie Axelsson (http://identi.ca/maloki).Sep 19 23:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Cool! Hack a lot.Sep 19 23:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I do have 1 odd problem, @evan - I can't post to silner.status.net any more, cos email confirmation isn't working, asked for when try 2 postSep 19 23:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Thanks!Sep 19 23:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] Sebastian (http://identi.ca/sebsebseb) started following Evan Prodromou (http://identi.ca/evan).Sep 19 23:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[stumbles/@stumbles] My business name has changed from "Software Freedom Labs" to "Sturm" http://www.sturm.com.au. Still all about the freedom! #freesoftwareSep 19 23:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] » @RWW: Open Sourcing Government: Pirate Party Wins 15 Seats in Berlin's Parliament http://t.co/wfhMVD6cSep 19 23:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] Danny Piccirillo (http://identi.ca/dpic) liked Danny Piccirillo's status (http://identi.ca/notice/84172057).Sep 19 23:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] Danny Piccirillo (http://identi.ca/dpic) liked Danny Piccirillo's status (http://identi.ca/notice/84172025).Sep 19 23:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] Hello StatusNet 1.0!Sep 19 23:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] That's a great point! Can you add a bug to http://status.net/open-source/issues ?Sep 19 23:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] Fucking everything about activity postsSep 19 23:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] My first !Identica !Identiverse dent using the new !snSep 19 23:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] Joel Adamson (http://identi.ca/trashbird1240) liked Johnny Null's status (http://identi.ca/notice/84170664).Sep 19 23:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] » @andyc: So farewell Google +. I enjoyed my romantic weekend with you but somehow it wasn't quite the same as the ident.ca pubSep 19 23:36
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DaemonFCso now Firefox passes ACID 3, has a really high level of HTML 5 support, they got the memory bloat contained, and their Javascript engine is faster than V8Sep 19 23:42
DaemonFCdoes Chrome have anything else or is this game?Sep 19 23:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] voted for "Yes"Sep 19 23:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] You bet there would be no XMPP daemon after upgrade?Sep 19 23:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] Matt Lee (http://identi.ca/url/53807040) liked Carlos Solís's status (http://identi.ca/url/53807779).Sep 19 23:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] There is definitely a serious issue with respect to using @turpial with the new !identica - what shame. I like TurpialSep 19 23:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] So, what happens when you try to confirm your email address?Sep 19 23:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] Don't forget the unmarked, non sequential bills in an unmarked envelope.Sep 19 23:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] polls? likes? Toto, I don't think we're in Kansas anymore...Sep 19 23:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I remember when there were no really good !identica clients - now there are three, so good it's hard to choose - that really is ..Sep 19 23:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] .. progress. The three I refer to are !choqok !identicurse and TurpialSep 19 23:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Laurel L. Russwurm (http://identi.ca/laurelrusswurm) liked r7's status (http://identi.ca/notice/84171532).Sep 19 23:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] voted for "Me gusta mucho...!"Sep 19 23:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] voted for "Yay"Sep 19 23:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] voted for "Better than awesome"Sep 19 23:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] I wonder why http://identi.ca/notice/84172104 wasn't sent to the !sn group since I had already pressed the join button before denting.Sep 19 23:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Yes, I am voting for 1.0.0 all over the place.Sep 19 23:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Evan Prodromou (http://identi.ca/evan) liked Alexander Nuttall's status (http://identi.ca/notice/84172323).Sep 19 23:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] April Fool's!Sep 19 23:51
TechrightsBot-tr@Sebastian (sebsebseb)'s status on Monday, 19-Sep-11 22:25:10 UTC - Identi.ca: My first !Identica !Identiverse dent using the new !snSep 19 23:51
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