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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] One thing I do not like about Dimblbleby's South American sojourn, he talks about its recent history and does not mention actions of USA.Sep 21 00:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] That is a tried and tested route to nationhood.Sep 21 00:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] First pic was lovely. I couldn't view the others as I have no account.Sep 21 00:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] answered "Likes of the new Identi.ca"Sep 21 00:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] (Yes a bit earlier half an hour or so ago.) I hope most Mageia dents will start going to both the !Mageia group and #Mageia tag!Sep 21 00:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] You have to go abroad? Marks and Sparks sarnies not good enough for you?Sep 21 00:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Well done. 20,000 that is a lot of dents.Sep 21 00:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] tzafSep 21 00:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[freemjd/@freemjd] But if he was, and needed assistance getting across a river or a small lake, you could row Doctor Cory Doctorow. That would be cool.Sep 21 00:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Did Qatar's Saudi-suckup and Libyan adventurism take the head of al Jazeera chief Wadah Khanfar? | Foreign Policy http://t.co/jAhrYHN9Sep 21 00:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] I predicted a few months back that #ArseneWenger would be sacked before Christmas, seems it's pretty much on track #Arsenal !footballSep 21 00:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Michael Caine spy films.... Ironically the period they were made was peak social mobility. Later he thought he did it all on his own.Sep 21 00:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Bray: Preparing for [Android] Handsets http://lwn.net/Articles/459566/rssSep 21 00:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] An alleged SSL/TLS protocol vulnerability http://lwn.net/Articles/459641/rssSep 21 00:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Bray: Preparing for [Android] Handsets [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 8.36 KBSep 21 00:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: An alleged SSL/TLS protocol vulnerability [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 8.38 KBSep 21 00:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] The vote of deathly confidence.Sep 21 00:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] #Mageia #mageiabirthday1 http://ur1.ca/54r43 http://identi.ca/notice/84169876 http://ur1.ca/54r3q http://ur1.ca/54r3o http://ur1.ca/54r3ySep 21 00:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[freemjd/@freemjd] The real danger with palindromic activities is that doing them is the same as undoing them. You can end up confused and frightened.Sep 21 00:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Cheers I received Diaspora email and will deal with it after sleep.Sep 21 00:44
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Neil Darlow (neildarlow)'s status on Monday, 19-Sep-11 20:22:35 UTC - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 11.07 KBSep 21 00:44
TechrightsBot-tr@Neil Darlow (neildarlow)'s status on Monday, 19-Sep-11 20:22:35 UTC - Identi.ca: Now identi.ca is back with us, Happy Birthday !Mageia. #mageiabirthdaySep 21 00:44
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sebsebsebDen't deleted for a re do ^Sep 21 00:47
sebsebsebsince it wasn't how I wantedSep 21 00:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Security advisories for Tuesday http://lwn.net/Articles/459524/rssSep 21 00:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] By subscribing to http://identi.ca/group/ddadSep 21 00:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] #Mageia #mageiabirthday #mageiabirthday1 #2011 http://ur1.ca/54r43 http://ur1.ca/54r3q http://ur1.ca/54r3o http://ur1.ca/54r3y !MageiaSep 21 00:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Don't Drink and Dent (ddad) group - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 33.48 KBSep 21 00:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] tzaf 3 nipples.Sep 21 00:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] how do I have my !statusnet instance tell !identica that I moved to fancy URLs so that things link right? @supportSep 21 00:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] can you report that? We changed our URL router recently and I think some of the weirder ways to use the API aren't working.Sep 21 00:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] great...Sep 21 00:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] 1st law of thermodynamics, longer walks or smaller hot dogs.Sep 21 01:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] If you want your employer to care about you then work for a cooperative.Sep 21 01:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] But it does keep coming back to you.Sep 21 01:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] M-Audio has finally got off their backsides and updated the drivers for the ProFire2626! Now to play...Sep 21 01:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Just saying hello WB & I hope all is well with you.Sep 21 01:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] That is a lot more than four replies. #countingSep 21 01:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] People have to do something useful or problems will arise. How hard is that to understand?Sep 21 01:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I should think so plenty of time until dawn.Sep 21 01:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] how do I chick how many dents I have?(important information, obv...)Sep 21 01:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Rats in a barrel have nothing on humans competing for resources. #viciousSep 21 01:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] State violence... Take boys show them how to kill, complete with praise & medals. Politicians are always the true criminals.Sep 21 01:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Secretary?Sep 21 01:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] now ripping: Dodgeball @nybill, where is my next bit of useless trivia? ;)Sep 21 01:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] 5k in a month. shame I'm switching :PSep 21 01:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Birthday messages, incoming or outgoing? I am assuming outgoing or we would all be wishing you happy birthday.Sep 21 02:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Happy happy birthday. You must enjoy life without hedonism it is the English way. Enjoy it though because it is over like that. Enjoy it.Sep 21 02:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Perhaps you could tell me, apart from the not understanding bit that is normal.Sep 21 02:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] my !statusnet instanceSep 21 02:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Yourself and Fontana are close mates that is the top and bottom of it, seems pretty clear to me.Sep 21 02:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] loquacious #wordofthedaySep 21 02:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] voted for "No"Sep 21 02:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] I do miss the customization of profile pages or the groups. it is now purged by the new 'standard' look and feel.Sep 21 02:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Can Tony Blair lie low for long enough so as the target punters forget about him, no!Sep 21 02:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I have this theory.. people do not always tell the truth.Sep 21 02:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Politicians the very crooked arm of the crooked !capitalists.Sep 21 02:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] @gbraad I prefer the old design, but I do like the new features I have come across so far.Sep 21 02:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] polls? #please ?! they should implement stream filtering!Sep 21 02:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] Is #Android !Linux really !freesoftware? http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2011/sep/19/android-free-software-stallmanSep 21 02:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Is Android really free software? | Technology | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 237.01 KBSep 21 02:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] You may or may not excuse my language. The result is fuck you only the fittest. Or how we can work together and cooperate. #cooperationSep 21 03:02
DaemonFChttp://news.opensuse.org/2011/09/06/opensuse-celebrates-beta-1-with-pizzabeta-parties/Sep 21 03:06
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DaemonFChehSep 21 03:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] tekk is attending Pointless Day.Sep 21 03:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Could this be one of the few time in economic history when the rich are more worried than the poor? (nothing left to loose)?Sep 21 03:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] @gbraad You can subscribe to tags now if you would like to. I thought we would be able to make our own streams in this version, but nope :(.Sep 21 03:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] @gbraad Streams I mean time lines.Sep 21 03:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @corq: Hackers hit Japanese weapons firm Mitsubishi - http://t.co/dq1RLuI0Sep 21 03:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @psquid Kororaa sounds like somebody having significant difficulty trying to say "cholera".Sep 21 03:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] "I'm the law, you can't beat the law!" #TheProdigySep 21 04:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] the hurd guys seem to have it together. I trust them to keep debian gnu/hurd faifSep 21 04:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] voted for "Yes"Sep 21 04:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] 安心Sep 21 04:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] I'm not sure what it means but it seems !disturbing.Sep 21 04:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] I have created a !heehaw group.Sep 21 04:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] now ripping: Fifth ElementSep 21 04:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] aggghhhh......I don't recall apt ever making my system unusable for minutes at a time #yumSep 21 05:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] two words. "Copy", and "Paste" #trollSep 21 05:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] voted for "@evan"Sep 21 05:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] morningSep 21 05:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[stumbles/@stumbles] Register for Ride to Work Day on 12 October to help campaign for better bike facilities in Australia http://ride2work.com.au/ #ridetoworkSep 21 05:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !InconstantMoon Serialization chapter posted: http://ur1.ca/54t1v !SelfPubSep 21 06:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] Federated?Sep 21 06:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] "Free culture feminist porn" ...the first there ever was.Sep 21 06:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !tzafSep 21 06:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] #Wisconsin legislators attempt to ban all fetal cell research http://identi.ca/url/53822077Sep 21 06:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] !Wikileaks cable: Al Jazeera head killed content at US gov’s request http://identi.ca/url/53822079Sep 21 06:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Gunmen dump 35 bodies on busy avenue in Mexico http://identi.ca/url/53822085Sep 21 06:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] now ripping: Silence of the Lambs #putthelotioninthebasket ;)Sep 21 06:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Tell Georgia Parole Board that they are going to murder a potentially innocent man http://identi.ca/url/53822092Sep 21 06:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @Develop4AppUpEU: Check out developer activities at #AppUp Elements next week http://t.co/6RfXZ0NF _mlSep 21 07:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] trisquel has gnome 3 too iirc(failing that I'm sure that there's a ppa)Sep 21 08:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I have learned the same lesson again, no doubt for a similar period. Do not drink and dent.Sep 21 08:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Half a trillion USD. Patent trolls We want to produce. But are forced to fight in courts. Let's stop this. Worldwide. h... http://b1t.it/CXRSep 21 08:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @jwildeboer Half a trillion USD. Patent trolls We want to produce. But are forced to fight in courts. Let's stop this. Worldwide. h.. ...Sep 21 08:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @jwildeboer: Half a trillion USD. Patent trolls We want to produce. But are forced to fight in courts. Let's stop this. Worldwide. h... htSep 21 08:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Microsoft Has Lost $5.5 Billion On #Bing Since 2009 http://goo.gl/98Vnr yep, a corp who just knows the modern web worldSep 21 08:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] voted for "Prefer the old, but like the new features such as polls."Sep 21 08:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Obama Administration Trying To Move Away From Allowing Countries To Ignore Patents To Save Lives http://goo.gl/ukQDVSep 21 08:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Citizen Recording Of Police Proves Officer Lied About Arrest http://goo.gl/JTrwzSep 21 08:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] RT @thistleweb Obama Administration Trying To Move Away From Allowing Countries To Ignore Patents To Save Lives http://goo.gl/ukQDVSep 21 08:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] That is why in all countries the police do not like their actions recorded/illegal in parts.Sep 21 08:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] Inria to Host First W3C Office in France http://ow.ly/1eLuVaSep 21 08:54
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-tomaw-[Global Notice] Sorry for the outage there, it seems one of our hubs had some issue. We've re-routed around it for now.Sep 21 08:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Is #Yahoo Blocking People From Sending Any Email That Mentions OccupyWallSt.org? http://goo.gl/akGbI Yahoo caught with pants downSep 21 08:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] How do you wake up one morning and realise you have a cold? It does not work like that for me.Sep 21 08:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @linuxaria [RT] Understanding #Nmap Commands: In depth Tutorial with examples part 2 !linux #security http://goo.gl/vIw9BSep 21 09:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Fingers in pies. Amazon have sent me mail suggesting I might be interested in buying something I already have from someone else.Sep 21 09:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @rsandu Windows 8 OEM specs may block Linux booting http://tinyurl.com/6ee6nq2 #windows #microsoft #linux #gnu #grub #software #bootSep 21 09:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Windows 8 OEM specs may block Linux booting | ITworld .::. Size~: 132.1 KBSep 21 09:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] The call to occupy #WallStreet resonates around the world http://gu.com/p/32245Sep 21 09:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The call to occupy Wall Street resonates around the world | Micah White and Kalle Lasn | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 246.51 KBSep 21 09:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Richard Stallman: “Android Phones Do Not Respect Your Freedom” http://tinyurl.com/643fbe6 #android #gnu #linux #mobile #stallmanSep 21 09:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] They work on the principle that anyone who does anything is a threat. The only acceptable threat is MS.Sep 21 09:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Căsătoria noastră, acum cincisprezece ani http://tinyurl.com/5uyshdt #romania #monarchy #royal #weddingSep 21 09:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] step away from the keyboard, bend over & prepared to have the #copyright monitoring chip anally inserted for your own good #DaGovtSep 21 09:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] if you do not struggle, our private employees are authorised to use lube, just spread your cheeks & think of the children #RIAA #MPAASep 21 09:14
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schestowitzgiant over night netsplit?Sep 21 09:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] #DaGovt chuckles.Sep 21 09:17
schestowitzLOL: http://qubitarkhive.com/2011/09/18/banned-by-a-freemasons-son/Sep 21 09:26
schestowitzEnder...Sep 21 09:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Banned by a Freemasons Son - Qubit ArkHive .::. Size~: 30.38 KBSep 21 09:26
schestowitzGoblin would love to see itSep 21 09:26
MinceRof course not one of his assertions is supportedSep 21 09:26
schestowitzomgubuntu guy http://twitter.com/humphreybc/statuses/116340190846529536Sep 21 09:28
TechrightsBot-tr@humphreybc: @directhex @schestowitz I think you spelt his Twitter handle wrong.Sep 21 09:28
schestowitzI think he used to also troll Fedora like he trolls FSFSep 21 09:29
schestowitzFor obvious reasons :-)Sep 21 09:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] #iWintel - Will we have to "#jailbreak" or own PC in the future, too? http://ur1.ca/54tr4 #UEFI !freesoftware !fsfe !gnuSep 21 09:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] exactly; the design thinking must take into consideration things like "our resources", "our user's current systems"...Sep 21 09:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] You caught it from pupils.Sep 21 09:39
schestowitzhttp://seekingalpha.com/article/294669-the-model-for-windows-8-is-linuxSep 21 09:45
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Model For Windows 8 Is Linux - Seeking Alpha .::. Size~: 97.79 KBSep 21 09:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Millwall beaten 5-0 ouch.Sep 21 09:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Every Linux desktop user can identify" [IMG] http://is.gd/FjnlaZSep 21 09:47
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Doomed to Obscurity .::. Size~: 121.63 KBSep 21 09:47
MinceR:DSep 21 09:49
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/84200651Sep 21 09:49
TechrightsBot-tr@Ed Morgan (mo6020)'s status on Wednesday, 21-Sep-11 08:38:50 UTC - Identi.ca: @davidmarsden cheers,  should be all good thoSep 21 09:49
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/84200641Sep 21 09:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Pardus Linux 2011.2 Has Been Released http://is.gd/5Gf7MU #turket #gnu #linuxSep 21 09:49
TechrightsBot-tr@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Wednesday, 21-Sep-11 08:37:54 UTC - Identi.ca: SEC's Proposed Rule To Stop Banks From Profiting At Investors' Expense http://is.gd/LoSXwL "profit from investors' losses."Sep 21 09:49
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Pardus Linux 2011.2 Has Been Released - Softpedia .::. Size~: 48.09 KBSep 21 09:49
schestowitzSJVN uses <dnet to troll for hits using a headline again http://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/the-linux-desktop-is-dead-long-live-the-linux-desktop/9562Sep 21 09:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Linux desktop is dead. Long live the Linux desktop. | ZDNet .::. Size~: 126 KBSep 21 09:50
schestowitzAnd maybe this time too he didn't select the headlineSep 21 09:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] When interest rates are low the golden goose is threatening not to lay. !capitalismSep 21 09:51
MinceRno mention of XFCESep 21 09:53
MinceRshameSep 21 09:53
schestowitzhttp://channel9.msdn.com/events/BUILD/BUILD2011/HW-457TSep 21 10:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Delivering a secure and fast boot experience with UEFI | BUILD2011 | Channel 9 .::. Size~: 28.98 KBSep 21 10:06
schestowitzMS ads in TMSep 21 10:06
schestowitzhttp://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/5552.htmlSep 21 10:07
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MinceRit's palladium all over again?Sep 21 10:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Warning over 'shameful' PFI leases lasting generations http://is.gd/Eut6rD #Labour's long term #FuckYou to the tax payersSep 21 10:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] For ms 7 you can only boot to "C drive" this is more of the same plus extra pain in the arse. If you dual boot for games.. difficult.Sep 21 10:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "I wish Microsoft would go bankrupt and go out of business forever." ~PCLOS Lead dev http://is.gd/gAk0iySep 21 10:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Brazilian daily creates “Folhaleaks” to help combat rampant corruption - http://bit.ly/n9W6TQ seemingly unstoppable #brazil (v @Asher_Wolf)Sep 21 10:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Brazilian daily creates a “Folhaleaks” to help combat rampant corruption — MercoPress .::. Size~: 23.66 KBSep 21 10:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The rise & rise of Mandarin – but how many will end up speaking it? - http://tgr.ph/pMQqmV "Mandarin compulsory" in Pakistan (v @chinesepod)Sep 21 10:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Building the Ultimate Modern #Linux Desktop http://t.co/FeSLGsFS "On my desktop, I rely on Compiz Fusion."Sep 21 10:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Ahoy there! Pirates going legit - http://bit.ly/mWWDwI interesting #what if?" the Pirates could put their policy into effect in #GermanySep 21 10:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The rise and rise of Mandarin – but how many will end up speaking it?  - Telegraph .::. Size~: 61.62 KBSep 21 10:16
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: The IPKat: Ahoy there! Pirates going legit .::. Size~: 102.63 KBSep 21 10:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Engadget no, NOBODY "bought" #Vista, plenty bout PCs with Vista on, because there was no choice, it's also "licensed" not "bought"Sep 21 10:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] just had an amazing conversation about workflows of the (near) future.Sep 21 10:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] 25 year old death to be brought to court by Libyan puppet government #pr #whocaresanymore #Fletcher. Recent civilian deaths...silence.Sep 21 10:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #RedHat Shares Poised for Earnings Pop http://is.gd/D15kx0 http://is.gd/t9TJvH “Overweight” Rating by Piper Jaffray http://is.gd/YAI4mtSep 21 10:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Debtors’ of The World Unite! The Initiative to form an International Debtors’ Party - http://bit.ly/o5SkgB wow; intriguing ideaSep 21 10:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Press Starts to Doubt Anti-#Piracy Propaganda Machine - http://bit.ly/plzMfX the dam will burst soon: the abuse has been hugeSep 21 10:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] "This is the heehaw group. The topic of this group is heehaw." Finally, the crypto-meme explained! ;-)Sep 21 10:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I am relying on people like you to do their job. You have my support.Sep 21 10:39
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schestowitzhttp://status.net/wiki/Service_statusSep 21 10:42
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/84201250Sep 21 10:42
TechrightsBot-tr@Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen)'s status on Wednesday, 21-Sep-11 09:22:21 UTC - Identi.ca: Overview of status is here http://status.net/wiki/Service_statusSep 21 10:42
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schestowitzstill down...Sep 21 10:42
schestowitzI can't use it wellSep 21 10:42
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/84201037Sep 21 10:43
TechrightsBot-tr@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Wednesday, 21-Sep-11 09:08:07 UTC - Identi.ca: Mozilla may shorten Firefox’s six-week release schedule to five weeks… or less http://is.gd/eBSc1r #mozilla #firefoxSep 21 10:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Samsung may try to block next #iPhone in Europe too - http://bit.ly/o8s2JB this is where #patents take us: back to the playgroundSep 21 10:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Is there an economic model that predicts problems between politicians and !capitalism or is it all good?Sep 21 10:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] @sebsebseb Wow, that's not confusing at all! ;-)Sep 21 10:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Here is the truth, !capitalism like nature will give you just enough to live.Sep 21 10:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] » @glynmoody: #Samsung may try 2 block #iPhone5 in Europe 2 - http://bit.ly/o8s2JB this is where #patents take us: back 2 the playgroundSep 21 10:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] Poll: Did you stop hating SN 1.0 yet? http://identi.ca/main/poll/b66bf393-836e-486d-b5b9-9f5c6b01a1d9Sep 21 10:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: clacke's poll: Did you stop hating SN 1.0 yet? - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 10.52 KBSep 21 10:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] The new UI is pretty! I miss threading. Client stream polluted with poll answers, likes etc. Also, I miss threading. I mentioned threading?Sep 21 10:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Rephrasing @clacke: The new UI: Client stream polluted with poll answers, likes etc « That is a real issue. Clients need activity filtering!Sep 21 11:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] If I used RP for rephrasing no would would know what the hell I was doing; what a shame. It would a real convenience :)Sep 21 11:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I'm not sure Y any1 expected !Android 2 B !FAIF friendly. !Google R just a company that use Open Source. They're not an !Opensource companySep 21 11:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Keep on moving.Sep 21 11:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Windows 8 secure boot to block !Linux - Hardware - News - ZDNet Australia http://goo.gl/r8jnJ « This is REALLY badSep 21 11:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Only for a blip.Sep 21 11:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Politicians are ordinary people. Saying what is expected to cover what they want. Usually not what you do.Sep 21 11:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Boarding sq to Bangkok to speak at Red Hat forum on Thursday.Sep 21 11:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Dropbox Share Updated For !Ubuntu 11.10 [Fedora Installation Instructions Too] http://identi.ca/url/53824551Sep 21 11:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] BPC news 24 .."Nation shall speak peace unto nation". New slogan is whatever the government says is fine by me. Accepting reality.Sep 21 11:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Even Japan has a rugby team. Germany who we look towards for leadership in the EU. You do not have a cricket or rugby team, sort it out.Sep 21 11:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] voted for "I don't participate in polls"Sep 21 12:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Does anyone believe that the Liberals will not dump the Tories before the next election?Sep 21 12:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] It amazes me that the police are regularly quizzed for their opinions on the telly. They are citizen servants that have got above themselvesSep 21 12:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] We all know from decades of maffia films, buy the politicians. This is a lesson the bankers have learned. So who speaks for the citizen?Sep 21 12:39
iophkhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1847681Sep 21 12:40
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iophkAbuse by forum staff in moving it quickly out of the way.Sep 21 12:41
schestowitziophk: it seems like a fair responseSep 21 12:42
schestowitzit's not clear what they should do about itSep 21 12:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Bollocks!Sep 21 12:42
schestowitzit's also about app-specific issuesSep 21 12:43
iophkWhich IMHO fall under supportSep 21 12:43
schestowitzDunnoSep 21 12:43
schestowitzbtw, do youi do c++?Sep 21 12:43
iophkThere is a larger question about policySep 21 12:43
iophkNo, I do not do C++.  What's the question?Sep 21 12:43
schestowitzI'll show you snippets:Sep 21 12:44
schestowitzusing namespace std;Sep 21 12:44
schestowitzclass indexSep 21 12:44
schestowitz{Sep 21 12:44
schestowitz[...]Sep 21 12:44
schestowitztypedef LRUCache<index,double> cache_t;Sep 21 12:44
schestowitzthe compiler won't recognise this classSep 21 12:44
schestowitzmexcache.cpp:23: error: type/value mismatch at argument 1 in template parameter list for ‘template<class Key, class Data> class LRUCache’Sep 21 12:45
schestowitzmexcache.cpp:23: error:   expected a type, got ‘index’Sep 21 12:45
iophkHmm.  Beyond my low skill level with C++Sep 21 12:45
schestowitzbut index *is* a class and it's properly declardSep 21 12:45
schestowitzi'm trying to undo some Visual Studio messSep 21 12:46
iophkare you really sure the syntax is correct ?Sep 21 12:46
schestowitzthe template is correctSep 21 12:46
schestowitzbut VS has a tendency to bastardise codeSep 21 12:46
schestowitzLast night had to remove a lot of cruftSep 21 12:46
iophkall MS products bastardize dataSep 21 12:46
schestowitzHTML esp.Sep 21 12:47
iophkand add cruftSep 21 12:47
schestowitzMaybe not anymoreSep 21 12:47
schestowitzThey also stamp themselvesSep 21 12:47
schestowitz"MS" somethingSep 21 12:47
schestowitzCause it's can't be a Web page without Ballmer's trademarksSep 21 12:47
iophkBill's — Bill still calls the shots in many ways AFAIKSep 21 12:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I always listen to what you say.Sep 21 12:49
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/48910plex0_5879.pdfSep 21 12:51
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schestowitzBill Gates: ""In one piece of mail people were suggesting that Office had to work equally well with all browsers and that we shouldn’t force Office users to use our browser. This Is wrong and I wanted to correct this.""Sep 21 12:51
iophkgtgSep 21 12:51
schestowitzokSep 21 12:51
schestowitzme too ina  momentSep 21 12:51
schestowitzwill blog at gymSep 21 12:51
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schestowitzhmmm..Sep 21 12:53
schestowitzFound the errorSep 21 12:53
schestowitz"index" was reservedSep 21 12:53
schestowitzbut gedit didn't pick that upSep 21 12:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] The people that make the decisions are in a bubble. They do not understand.Sep 21 12:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] #BPC news die in way I imagined for Fox News.Sep 21 12:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] EU Parliament Member Asks EU Commission What It Will Do If #Italy Approves One Strike Copyright Law - http://bit.ly/peab9H good to seeSep 21 13:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] If I register myself as a bank will you print me some money?Sep 21 13:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Newzbin2 Offers Anti-Blocking Tech To BitTorrent Sites, Releases OS X Version http://goo.gl/5zWB7Sep 21 13:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] They do not you are wrong.Sep 21 13:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #HTC “will definitely win” #Apple patent fight, says president - http://tnw.co/pdZTTF real confidence or bluster?Sep 21 13:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] For anyone who is thinking of watching #BPC 24 hours news. Do not. It is world class shite.Sep 21 13:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] 6 reasons to use !wordpress http://twurl.nl/czboe3Sep 21 13:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Women in New Zealand have had the vote for 118 years http://twurl.nl/jl6u7cSep 21 13:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] So is Adobe still supporting !Linux or not? http://twurl.nl/867zinSep 21 13:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] I think the nonthreading in the new UI may be better than the inadequate threading in the old UI. Might depend on length of thread.Sep 21 13:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] The Guardian win case against met. (who as you would expect play a blinder in damage limitation)Sep 21 13:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Windows 8 will block Linux dual booting http://ur1.ca/54wc0Sep 21 13:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Looks like Adobe are still making AIR for us too http://twurl.nl/02ty1v « Course most of us can't use it cos the windowing keeps sticking :(Sep 21 13:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] #fracking comes to poison #EU next. Company promises jobs #excuseSep 21 13:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Well, I haven't lied about anything Brandon. Check my replies another person has commented on your activities (without prompting)Sep 21 13:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] I think he chooses a new pov when he feels nobody is listening. I think its attention seeking.Sep 21 13:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] He's had many different nyms, it certainly wasn't clear to me that they were his, I wonder what happened to his site pwnage.ca?Sep 21 13:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Do not lower yourself.Sep 21 13:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] A great politician answer! Fantastic stuff.... Can't squirm your way out of a hole you've dug for yourself though can you?Sep 21 13:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Doesn't censor anything. The decision to ban you was mine alone. Unless I'm mistaken you can freely post here.Sep 21 13:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] And what about other people calling you a liar? - Brandon, it doesn't matter I think you lost any credibility a long time ago.Sep 21 13:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Around the time when you got the sack from your job because some complained about you sending harassing email.Sep 21 13:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Now You Can Play 3D Games On Android http://ur1.ca/54x1bSep 21 13:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Even now, theres another person coming forward and telling me not to waste time with you, you should have been banned years ago.Sep 21 13:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] I think someone needed to tell Brandon and his changing POV, multiple nyms a long time ago. He's upset many in IRC.Sep 21 13:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] al-Jazeera's resigned head Wadah Khanfar talks read all the cables-correct there, but unconvincing on pressure http://t.co/hE66p71ZSep 21 14:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] I actually think you believe that. Sad fact is, you could say you were telling lies and I wouldn't believe you. Neither would others.Sep 21 14:06
XFaCE" Sad fact is, you could say you were telling lies and I wouldn't believe you." Agh, paradox!Sep 21 14:06
XFaCEDivide by 0!  BOOM!Sep 21 14:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] I'm not dictating anything. Don't make this into something its not. Say what you like here or on your site..Sep 21 14:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] You just won't be doing it on #techrights (as users have already pointed out) you are not welcome or trusted.Sep 21 14:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] And for the record, I don't like soccer. I am sure you can make a drama out of that too.Sep 21 14:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] The second Brandon tries to make an argument out of his latest POV its undermined.Sep 21 14:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I am going to favourite that as it is unusual.Sep 21 14:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] The bad news...All of us poor people are the foundations of the !capitalism pyramid. The good news is that we do not need half it provides.Sep 21 14:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] He's dipping into Jedi now...Sep 21 14:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] No Brandon, you were annoying people months before your claims about what Roy said.Sep 21 14:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] » @satipera: Bad news...All of us poor people are the foundations of the !capitalism pyramid. Good news is we do not need half it provides.Sep 21 14:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Windows 8 Certified Computers May Not Be Able To Boot Linux http://identi.ca/url/53825746Sep 21 14:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Newzbin2 Offers Anti-Blocking Tech To BitTorrent Sites, Releases OS X Version - http://bit.ly/oFDsgg interesting interviewSep 21 14:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Big Brother Watch is looking for an intern - http://bit.ly/p078wB alas - ironically - Microsoft Word & Excel skills required... #freedomSep 21 14:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] RT @evan When should an Open Source project close down in favour of another? http://evan.status.net/question/3477ab60-7b98-4ddc-bbed-4a7 ...Sep 21 14:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Brazilian President advocates breaking drug #patents during UN speech - http://bit.ly/nAn3pR wow: missed this #brazil #pharmaSep 21 14:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] RT @metaboliccooking http://bit.ly/nbYTrW 7 Easy Cooking Tricks To Burn Fat Faster!Sep 21 14:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @evan When is the impossible question though. Where is that cut off point? We all know it exists, but we all see it in a different placeSep 21 14:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] hmm, I had blocked Brandon, new Identica didn't take it, tried to unblock then block again to see if it triggersSep 21 14:36
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DaemonFCtrying to figure out how to get Chatzilla to group rooms by serverSep 21 14:46
DaemonFChehSep 21 14:46
DaemonFCMinceR: Have you noticed how much smoother Seamonkey is than Firefox?Sep 21 14:47
DaemonFCI can't quite put my finger on itSep 21 14:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] It is how I feel.Sep 21 14:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] Linux desktop: Not pining for the fjords http://tinyurl.com/4y8qkck #linux #desktop #notdeadSep 21 14:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] What You Need to Know About the New Patent Law http://soc.li/OfwVrjaSep 21 14:57
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MinceRnopeSep 21 14:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] A village with only one restaurant http://www.danwei.com/a-village-with-only-one-restaurant/#more-1105 !China !OnlyInChinaSep 21 15:04
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DaemonFCMinceR: Is it something to take comfort in or to be horrified by when you realize that all you have to do to not be a complete fuckup *and* elevate yourself above ~90% of the people around you is to not contribute to their nonsense?Sep 21 15:06
MinceRperhaps bothSep 21 15:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] I've learned my lessonSep 21 15:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] BPC presenter did not get the memo. Never use the phrase "tipping point" again as people are starting to take the piss.Sep 21 15:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] yes.Sep 21 15:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] The erhu http://www.danwei.com/the-erhu/#more-280 !China #DanweiSep 21 15:11
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DaemonFC[10:08] <DaemonFC> can't have free thinkers running around freely thinkingSep 21 15:12
DaemonFC[10:09] <DaemonFC> lets sedate them and make them work at McDonaldsSep 21 15:12
DaemonFC[10:09] <DaemonFC> :)Sep 21 15:12
DaemonFC[10:09] <Getty> free thinkers are thinkingSep 21 15:12
DaemonFC[10:09] <DaemonFC> there's a pill for thatSep 21 15:12
DaemonFC[10:09] <DaemonFC> it's how the Soviets filled the GulagSep 21 15:12
DaemonFC[10:10] <DaemonFC> the US just doesn't call it thatSep 21 15:12
DaemonFC[10:10] <DaemonFC> but that's what it isSep 21 15:12
DaemonFC[10:10] <DaemonFC> take your Ritalin and go to one of the state approved churches for reprogramming Sep 21 15:12
DaemonFC[10:10] <DaemonFC> report to work at McDonalds Monday morningSep 21 15:12
DaemonFC[10:10] <DaemonFC> man the french fry vatSep 21 15:12
DaemonFC[10:10] <DaemonFC> B-)Sep 21 15:12
DaemonFC[10:12] <DaemonFC> I have nothing but contempt for a system that drugs its intellectuals and tries to brand them mentally ill or retarded to undermine themSep 21 15:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] Microsoft gets Casio to sign #Linux patent deal http://tinyurl.com/3thv4zl Ugh.Sep 21 15:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Yes. Or sitting at the feet of a "master" ... doing what you're told by a superior being because you aren't competent to decide yourselfSep 21 15:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @kirschner: #iWintel - Will we have to "#jailbreak" our own PC in the future, too? http://ur1.ca/54tr4 #UEFI #freesoftware #fsfe #gnuSep 21 15:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] More Evidence That Windows 8 Takes its Cues from #Linux http://tinyurl.com/446obawSep 21 15:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] British Lib Dem leader (part of the British government) tries to explain why they are as popular as syphilis.Sep 21 15:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[copiesofcopies/@copiesofcopies] Is it just me, or if a post has >4 replies, does SN always say "Show all 4 replies"Sep 21 15:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] Samsung to open source Bada http://www.fudzilla.com/home/item/24158-samsung-to-open-source-bada #opensourceSep 21 15:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] certamente já falei desses problemas, mas... putz, não consegui localizar :-(Sep 21 15:24
DaemonFChttp://search.slashdot.org/story/11/09/20/1855251/Microsoft-Has-Lost-55-Billion-On-Bing-Since-2009Sep 21 15:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft Has Lost $5.5 Billion On Bing Since 2009 - Slashdot .::. Size~: 138.62 KBSep 21 15:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] for capable, casual users I agree. For those with muscle memory? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muscle_memorySep 21 15:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] voted for "Yes"Sep 21 15:34
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iophkDaemonFC: Bing used to be called LIve Search.  How much money did that lose?  It should be added in to the grand total that Bing has been losing.Sep 21 15:34
iophkM$ is willing to lose money almost indefinitely in any given field just to try to weaken the competitionSep 21 15:35
DaemonFCwell, the thing says $9 billion lost in their online services since 2007Sep 21 15:35
DaemonFCLive Search was part of thatSep 21 15:35
DaemonFCI think it went back to like 2006 or so under that name thoughSep 21 15:35
iophkWas there another money-losing name before that, tooSep 21 15:36
DaemonFCthey don't count Microsoft Skype as a separate $8 billion loss (so far), but that's basically what it isSep 21 15:36
iophk?Sep 21 15:36
DaemonFCmost Skype users are freeloadersSep 21 15:36
iophkSkype sucksSep 21 15:36
MinceRdon't forget the time when it was called m$n searchSep 21 15:37
MinceRor something like thatSep 21 15:37
MinceRskype is a botnetSep 21 15:37
DaemonFCnothing like raising the price of office and Windows so they have more money to throw in the old incinerator every year Sep 21 15:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] What this bloke is saying is fine but by the time we have run it passed the agreement it looks bad.Sep 21 15:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @kuro Nearly 1 in 6 German MPs to boycott pope speech http://is.gd/I3zGP2 !secularSep 21 15:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @weeguy bb z fc muuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuSep 21 15:44
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Nearly 1 in 6 German parliamentarians to boycott Pope speech - Monsters and Critics .::. Size~: 38.51 KBSep 21 15:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] How do we know what matters?Sep 21 15:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @laurelrusswurm: RT @kuro Nearly 1 in 6 German MPs to boycott pope speech http://is.gd/I3zGP2 #secularSep 21 15:47
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Nearly 1 in 6 German parliamentarians to boycott Pope speech - Monsters and Critics .::. Size~: 38.51 KBSep 21 15:47
XFaCEschestowitz: Want to hear a funny story that just happened?  Literally, a few minutes agao.Sep 21 15:48
DaemonFChttp://i2.cdn.turner.com/money/2011/09/20/technology/microsoft_bing/chart-bing3.top.jpgSep 21 15:48
TechrightsBot-trNot a web page! Aborting image/jpeg typeSep 21 15:48
DaemonFCniceSep 21 15:48
XFaCElolSep 21 15:48
XFaCEEspecially considering the context of my story.Sep 21 15:49
MinceR:)Sep 21 15:49
XFaCEOf course, I do not condone the laying off of all those workers.Sep 21 15:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] If you are talking about profile tags, mine are gone too :(Sep 21 15:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @glynmoody Brazilian President advocates breaking drug #patents during UN speech - http://bit.ly/nAn3pR wow: missed this #brazil #pharmaSep 21 15:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] The defintition of !Capitalism "He who dies with the most toys wins"Sep 21 15:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Dilma advocates breaking drug patents during UN speech «  A2K Brasil .::. Size~: 35.3 KBSep 21 15:49
XFaCEHaving witnessed a similar company do the same thing (Nortel)/Sep 21 15:49
XFaCEMinceR: We started a HTML class to make a web page... in Sharepoint Designer.Sep 21 15:50
XFaCEYep.Sep 21 15:50
MinceRewSep 21 15:50
XFaCEMinceR: But we couldn't actually do that today, because Sharepoint Designer 2010 (the latest and greatest!) only connects to a Sharepoint Server, whereas we have another serverSep 21 15:51
XFaCEto connect to.Sep 21 15:51
MinceRlolSep 21 15:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] The defintition of !Capitalism "He who dies with the most toys wins"Sep 21 15:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Quality of #patents 'falling dramatically', warns #OECD - http://bit.ly/rfV0Cq no, really?Sep 21 15:51
XFaCE*Clap, clap calpSep 21 15:51
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XFaCEMinceR: Now, I may be generalizing, but AFAIK and have witnessed, the computer science department has no problem learning non-Microsoft technologies and languages like Java.  I sure as hell bet they aren't using Sharepoint Designer.Sep 21 15:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @encyclomundi Scientists may have found way to stop AIDS virus: From Toad Hall, Whidbey via emailSep 21 15:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Dinosaur-murdering space boulder family found innocent • The RegisterSep 21 15:52
XFaCEMinceR: I'm so glad I learned to work directly with HTML and even PHP code to a degree, just so an ugly Microsoft UI can be plastered over it.Sep 21 15:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] voted for "Polls"Sep 21 15:54
XFaCEMinceR & DaemonFC: Goes perfectly with the bogus "piracy" statistics they're quoting during lecture presentations.Sep 21 15:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #crashandburn #cloudofsmoke - #Microsoft cloud evaporated by one busted file • Channel RegisterSep 21 15:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] We incorporate genetic information from the #food we eat - new study - http://bit.ly/ndoigh if confirmed by further studies, rather big...Sep 21 15:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @zotz You notice I didn't mention Excel. Spreadsheets are more different (Gnumeric is more accurate for a start - than LO Calc, or MSOE)Sep 21 16:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Tell @Safeway, @Walmart, @KrogerCo: We don't want #Monsanto's unlabeled, potentially toxic #GMO sweet corn! http://identi.ca/url/53826697Sep 21 16:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @zotz Apparently they were tested and surprisingly maybe, Gnumeric did the Floating points better, I think that's what I read; while agoSep 21 16:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Grocery store CEOs: Refuse Monsanto's GMO sweet corn! .::. Size~: 13.6 KBSep 21 16:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] 59 people have answered this poll, which is why i will never do another; of which 5 support the word "follow" (pretty sure some are joking)Sep 21 16:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] yupSep 21 16:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] hoje é dia mundial do Mal de Alzheimer. eu tinha esquecido, e você?Sep 21 16:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] What do you call a country that will not be around in a few hundred years... Israel. !palestineSep 21 16:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @evan a perfect example of why @name should be default of reply button: http://identi.ca/notice/84192626 ...Sep 21 16:14
TechrightsBot-tr@V.Villenave (vvillenave)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Sep-11 19:55:35 UTC - Identi.ca: Neat! How about lunch tomorrow? My treat! (Thurs. or Frid. also possible for me.)Sep 21 16:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Peak USA power 1914-2014 anyone care to argue?Sep 21 16:17
XFaCEMinceR: Can you be a T/A here?  I think you can program a single web page without Sharepoint Designer... or DaemonFC for that matter.Sep 21 16:20
MinceRi canSep 21 16:20
MinceRbut what's a T/A?Sep 21 16:20
XFaCEteacher assistant, teaching tutorialsSep 21 16:21
DaemonFCthe last time I made a web page it was with HTML 3.2Sep 21 16:21
iophkCSS3 rocksSep 21 16:22
MinceRteaching is not my thingSep 21 16:22
DaemonFCI disagree, I think we should go back to preferring performance and fast lay out over bloated style sheets and tons of scriptsSep 21 16:22
DaemonFCbut that's me :)Sep 21 16:22
iophkCSS can be fast, but javascript should be avoidedSep 21 16:23
MinceRi think web pages should be light and should avoid scripts when scripts are not necessary for the taskSep 21 16:23
DaemonFCI never touched javascript or CSSSep 21 16:23
DaemonFCplain HTML worked fine for meSep 21 16:23
DaemonFCit also has the advantage of broad browser compatibilitySep 21 16:23
MinceRi think that web pages that were intended to provide hypertext info should be built as such; and web applications should be kept as a separate genre from themSep 21 16:23
DaemonFCeven with the horrible layout engines at that timeSep 21 16:24
iophkDaemonFC: "plain text , it was good enough for Shakespeare"Sep 21 16:24
MinceR(for the latter use case, i think that html5 is a pretty promising standard for remote GUI)Sep 21 16:24
DaemonFCit would be nice if they could just declare that ancient HTML and most of the crap IE and Netscape did are done, over with, and not supportedSep 21 16:25
DaemonFCbut they're worried about breaking some lame site from 1998Sep 21 16:25
XFaCEDaemonFC: HTML 3.2? You still know more code.Sep 21 16:25
DaemonFCgod forbid blink no longer worksSep 21 16:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] err... how does denying a country full membership in the UN GA promote dialogue and negotiations, again?Sep 21 16:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Am I the only person who cringes at the thought of shite wayne?Sep 21 16:29
DaemonFChttp://www.wbez.org/story/indiana-court-upholds-ruling-police-entry-92243Sep 21 16:30
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Indiana court upholds ruling on police entry | WBEZ .::. Size~: 63.29 KBSep 21 16:30
DaemonFC"The Indiana Supreme Court is upholding a ruling that Hoosiers cannot resist police officers who enter their homes without warrants."Sep 21 16:30
MinceRHoosier daddy?!Sep 21 16:31
DaemonFCThat's what the cop said!Sep 21 16:32
DaemonFCas he entered with no warrant Sep 21 16:32
DaemonFC:)Sep 21 16:32
DaemonFCI hope this gets appealed to the federal courtsSep 21 16:32
DaemonFCI'd like to hear what they have to saySep 21 16:33
DaemonFC:)Sep 21 16:33
DaemonFCactually, maybe notSep 21 16:33
MinceR:>Sep 21 16:33
DaemonFCit might end up in the current supreme courtSep 21 16:33
DaemonFCwhich calls companies peopleSep 21 16:33
DaemonFCand says you have to invoke your fifth amendment right against self incriminationSep 21 16:34
DaemonFCor anything the police hear you say is fair gameSep 21 16:34
DaemonFCthere's nothing in that amendment that says you have to assert itSep 21 16:34
DaemonFCwhich means it's impliedSep 21 16:34
DaemonFCwhich means the court rewrote the law :)Sep 21 16:35
DaemonFCnow all sorts of fun stuff can happen MinceRSep 21 16:35
DaemonFCPolice officer to other police officer: "I didn't hear him say he wanted that right, did you?"Sep 21 16:35
DaemonFC:)Sep 21 16:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Kids aged eight in cage fighting nights http://is.gd/Rt17Ac - file that under #WTF?Sep 21 16:36
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DaemonFCMinceR: For what it's worth, my state's bill of rights is stronger than the federal oneSep 21 16:37
DaemonFCbut that doesn't protect me from the feds, or from a state court rewriting the law as it goesSep 21 16:37
DaemonFCMinceR: One of the amendments in the state constitution says that a police officer shall not subdue a suspect with undue rigorSep 21 16:38
DaemonFCI think that's 19th century legal talk for don't tase me broSep 21 16:38
DaemonFCB-)Sep 21 16:38
MinceR:>Sep 21 16:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Bald #penguin cast out by family http://is.gd/sK5eDA awwSep 21 16:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] I tried that too; I'll test it some moreSep 21 16:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #TPM #TCPA #DIRTYTRICKS #PRIVACY http://ur1.ca/54zsk - Windows 8 secure boot would 'exclude' Linux • The RegisterSep 21 16:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Younger people even the English ones are good sorts, don't give them a hard time.Sep 21 16:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] [$] PostgreSQL and the SQL standards process http://lwn.net/Articles/459647/rssSep 21 16:44
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iophkhttp://www.clementine-player.org/Sep 21 16:45
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DaemonFCit would be nice if they tweaked Seamonkey here and thereSep 21 16:46
DaemonFCclose buttons on every tab would be niceSep 21 16:46
MinceRisn't there an extension to do that already?Sep 21 16:46
MinceRalso, can't you middleclick the tab to close it?Sep 21 16:46
MinceR(or hit ctrl+w)Sep 21 16:47
DaemonFCyeah, you have to disable some other crap thoughSep 21 16:47
DaemonFCthere's seatab-X for the buttons, but the license bugs meSep 21 16:47
MinceRthere's also Firefox :>Sep 21 16:47
DaemonFCthe author says he wants to keep it off addons.mozilla.org, that it's proprietary Sep 21 16:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The UN's Battle with Non-communicable Diseases - http://fam.ag/pNUZVZ putting pharma #patents ahead of peopleSep 21 16:47
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The UN's Battle With NCDs | Foreign Affairs .::. Size~: 47.33 KBSep 21 16:47
DaemonFCand that it is open source if he doesn't maintain it for 6 months or more and it stops workingSep 21 16:48
*MinceR wonders what happened to Tabbrowser Extensions or whatever it was calledSep 21 16:48
DaemonFCbut doesn't specify the license to be usedSep 21 16:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] indeedSep 21 16:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] was it the closing that was sad, or the behaviour of those who make working in KDE an exercise in frustration?Sep 21 16:49
DaemonFChttp://tom-cat.com/mozilla/seamonkey/extensions-seatabx.htmlSep 21 16:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: CatThief :: SeaTab X .::. Size~: 12.43 KBSep 21 16:51
DaemonFCmehSep 21 16:52
DaemonFCwhy notSep 21 16:52
DaemonFC:)Sep 21 16:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] exaggeration. All atheros cards are free and every broadcom I've tried.Sep 21 16:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] The answer to micro$oft UEFI #dirtytricks - #coreboot - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaSep 21 17:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] @tekk@tekk.smuns.ch it work yet?Sep 21 17:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] DjVu - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DjvuSep 21 17:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] it's notable that #Microsoft waited until the #DOJ attention over antitrust concerns was lifted before this new UFI !Linux blockingSep 21 17:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #microsoft #dirtytricks - Light Blue Touchpaper » Blog Archive » Trusted Computing 2.0Sep 21 17:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Work begins on Babbage’s Analytical Engine - http://bit.ly/psc65e oooh, exciting #computing #historySep 21 17:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] rEFIt - An EFI Boot Menu and Toolkit refit.sourceforge.netSep 21 17:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] New: best practices for account deactivation & content removal from @berkmancenter @CenDemTech & EFF's @jilliancyork https://eff.org/r.1CmSep 21 17:37
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Report Release: Account Deactivation and Content Removal: Guiding Principles and Practices for Companies and Users | Berkman Center .::. Size~: 12.16 KBSep 21 17:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kernellogauthor/@kernellogauthor] Linus:"One reason I refuse to use Ubuntu is that they can't even get their installkernel binary right […]" http://bit.ly/oLG9fv (comment 7)Sep 21 17:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Cablegate: More Coming Soon, Impact Still Expanding http://is.gd/VfiMY6 #cablegate #ooxml #wikileaksSep 21 17:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Cablegate: More Coming Soon, Impact Still Expanding http://is.gd/VfiMY6 #cablegate #ooxml !wikileaksSep 21 17:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ‘Linux’ Patent Deals Might be FAT, an Abuse Through FUD http://is.gd/XfzdGc #linux #swpats #casio #fatSep 21 17:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] News media corruption #CNN Fake #Libya War Video Exposed http://tinyurl.com/6h5nrmnSep 21 17:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] ‘Linux’ Patent Deals Might be FAT, an Abuse Through FUD http://is.gd/XfzdGc #linux #swpats #casio #fatSep 21 18:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #OpenSUSE is Having Problems With #Systemd http://is.gd/NDesWc #suse #novellSep 21 18:04
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DaemonFCschestowitz: They're also still using grub legacy in 12.1Sep 21 18:06
DaemonFC*sigh*Sep 21 18:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] OpenSUSE is Having Problems With Systemd http://is.gd/NDesWc #gnu #linuxSep 21 18:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Learn more about KVM best practices incl. device #virtualization for guest OS in: http://bit.ly/nTvo9P #kvmSep 21 18:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] This is what happens when Facebook changes its layout - The Oatmeal http://bit.ly/pzpbjcSep 21 18:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Windows 8 secure boot would 'exclude' Linux • The Register http://bit.ly/n5WJNRSep 21 18:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Vista 8 Bribes (5,000 ‘Free’ Tablets) Are Already Dumped for Cash http://is.gd/aZDx89 #vista8 #win8 #samsung #ebaySep 21 18:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Vista 8 Bribes (5,000 ‘Free’ Tablets) Are Already Dumped for Cash http://is.gd/aZDx89Sep 21 18:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] ASA probes Microsoft cloud reliability claims • Channel Register http://bit.ly/opDeFPSep 21 18:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Vista 8 Bribes (5,000 ‘Free’ Tablets) Are Already Dumped for Cash http://is.gd/aZDx89 #vista8 #win8 #samsung #ebaySep 21 18:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Group tagging is getting complicated since the new system went liveSep 21 18:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] DigiNotar (and Potentially Many Iranians) Suffers Death by Microsoft http://is.gd/OvoM6r #microsoft #DigiNotar #appleSep 21 18:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Disclosures http://is.gd/RyZ7t3 #techrightsSep 21 18:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Disclosures http://is.gd/RyZ7t3 responding to trollsSep 21 18:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] Debian stable is awesome, but so many people use Testing when they really need a rolling release.Sep 21 18:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] aha! If I "reply" via wheel click opening a new reply page, I get the @name ... better than painstakingly typing :)Sep 21 18:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @h4nnibal Matlab people please try to use GNU Octave. Here is online document I am sharing. | http://goo.gl/MWQzV | #GNU #octave !gnu ...Sep 21 18:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @schestowitz Disclosures http://is.gd/RyZ7t3 responding to trollsSep 21 18:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @nettuts CentOS 5: File Server Essentials: New on Premium http://t.co/tg2ocXTg #centos #file #serverSep 21 18:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz Vista 8 Bribes (5,000 ‘Free’ Tablets) Are Already Dumped for Cash http://is.gd/aZDx89 #vista8 #win8 #samsung #ebaySep 21 18:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @meegoexperts Qt Developer Days Munich — Qt – A cross-Platform Application And UI Framework http://mge.bz/nZSep 21 18:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] perhaps the answer is to lvery loudly in PR / social networking terms boycott ALL corps who collude with #Microsoft in blocking !linuxSep 21 18:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] the #UFI bullshit is a prime example to show folks who claim "that's the old #Microsoft" #Win8 is not released yet, hardly "old"Sep 21 18:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Patent Reform and Android http://is.gd/Hc9whX #swpats #linux #android #googleSep 21 18:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Patent Reform and Android http://is.gd/Hc9whX #phoneSep 21 18:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] I could use a new body. Other than that, things are fine.Sep 21 18:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] Comparing the Identi.ca and Facebook updates. Identi.ca - WIN! Facebook - Loose.Sep 21 18:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @robmyers: "Collaboration and freedom – the world of free and open source art" - http://is.gd/epztyc and http://is.gd/AUwC6QSep 21 18:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] You should subscribe to a magazine and join a group. We follow leaders.Sep 21 18:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] Canadian Internet Registration Authority Board elections now open. Very weak slate. Suggest avoiding Eric Boehm. #CIRASep 21 19:01
schestowitz[14:22] [Notice] -TRIdentica to #techrights- [openbytes/@openbytes] No Brandon, you were annoying people months before your claims about what Roy said.Sep 21 19:01
schestowitzLOLSep 21 19:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Another #Bessen Study Estimates Cost of Patent Trolls at Around $500,000,000,000 http://is.gd/YbzKkF #monopoly #bostonSep 21 19:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Another Bessen Study Estimates Cost of Patent Trolls at Around $500,000,000,000 http://is.gd/YbzKkF #swpats #npeSep 21 19:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] RT @schestowitz Another Bessen Study Estimates Cost of Patent Trolls at Around $500,000,000,000 http://is.gd/YbzKkF #swpats #npeSep 21 19:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Microsoft has lost around $10 billion in its online services since 2007. Microsoft 2.0.Sep 21 19:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] I couldn't vote last time because they wanted me to scan my driver's license & email it to prove who i am. #nofuckingway !privacy #CIRASep 21 19:04
sebsebsebjono: No ustream today?Sep 21 19:05
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/84208103Sep 21 19:07
TechrightsBot-tr@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Wednesday, 21-Sep-11 17:24:14 UTC - Identi.ca: DigiNotar (and Potentially Many Iranians) Suffers Death by Microsoft http://is.gd/OvoM6rSep 21 19:07
koolhead17hi allSep 21 19:07
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schestowitzo haiSep 21 19:07
sebsebsebschestowitz: I am quite popular since sometime when Identica came back up, well my poll :DSep 21 19:09
schestowitz:-)Sep 21 19:10
DaemonFCWindows 98 runs Firefox 9 Sep 21 19:10
DaemonFCwith Direct3d :)Sep 21 19:10
DaemonFCif you load KernelEx and tell it to tell Firefox it is Windows 2000Sep 21 19:11
DaemonFCI guess Win32 hasn't changed much in a whileSep 21 19:11
*DaemonFC is fooling around with VirtualBox and some old Windows CDs he hasSep 21 19:12
DaemonFCWindows 95 under KDE is an experienceSep 21 19:12
DaemonFCespecially in seamless modeSep 21 19:12
DaemonFCevery once in a while I check to see what Virtualbox can doSep 21 19:13
DaemonFCthe accelerated graphics support has gotten betterSep 21 19:13
DaemonFCalthough I doubt AERO would do anything on the device it emulatesSep 21 19:14
schestowitz> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/09/21/secure_boot_firmware_linux_exclusion_fears/Sep 21 19:14
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schestowitz> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/09/20/microsoft_loses_executive_after_twitter_review/Sep 21 19:14
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schestowitz> Sep 21 19:14
schestowitz> http://www.techspot.com/news/45559-bing-has-cost-microsoft-55-billion-since-2009.htmlSep 21 19:14
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schestowitz> Live Search??Sep 21 19:15
schestowitz> Sep 21 19:15
schestowitz> http://news.techeye.net/business/uk-press-accuses-microsoft-of-glass-ceiling-and-sex-partiesSep 21 19:15
schestowitzGood links, I shall use these.Sep 21 19:15
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schestowitz[19:10] <DaemonFC> Windows 98 runs Firefox 9 Sep 21 19:15
schestowitzI ran FIrfox 1.x on win98Sep 21 19:15
schestowitzaround 2004Sep 21 19:15
schestowitzmaybe 2005Sep 21 19:15
schestowitzit had just 32 mb of ramSep 21 19:15
DaemonFCthey officially don't support Windows 9x/Me or NT 4 or earlierSep 21 19:15
DaemonFCsince Firefox 3Sep 21 19:15
schestowitzthis machine has DSL on it nowSep 21 19:15
schestowitzDaemonFC: abd do you think that's good or bad?Sep 21 19:16
DaemonFCI don't think it really mattersSep 21 19:16
DaemonFCif someone is going to use a version of Windows Microsoft hasn't supported in years, then what harm could unpatched Firefox do? :)Sep 21 19:17
DaemonFCit still supports Windows 2000Sep 21 19:19
DaemonFCI guess there's no reason not toSep 21 19:19
DaemonFCa number of people still use itSep 21 19:19
DaemonFCit's similar enough to XP that it probably doesn't take much effort to supportSep 21 19:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @mo6020: Holy fucking shit, just saw REM have broke up..Sep 21 19:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] RT @rysiek ♻ @telecomix: tweetfix: Full List Of Sites The US Air Force Blocked To Hide #Wikileaks Info http://t.co/FCzExnzf #censorship ...Sep 21 19:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] 30 Days With Ubuntu Linux http://tinyurl.com/6egouqa #gnu #linux #software #windows #microsoftSep 21 19:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] From Sundials to Atomic Clocks: Understanding Time and Frequency (NIST, 1979): http://tf.nist.gov/general/pdf/1796.pdfSep 21 19:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links – Microsoft Boot Malice, TH Kicked to the Curb http://is.gd/54jnfj #techrightsSep 21 19:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Links – Microsoft Boot Malice, TH Kicked to the Curb http://is.gd/54jnfjSep 21 19:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @Valleywag: Google Is on Trial for Being Evil http://t.co/HfbnxF7MSep 21 19:32
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Links – Microsoft Boot Malice, TH Kicked to the Curb http://is.gd/54jnfjSep 21 19:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @Valleywag: Google Is on Trial for Being Evil http://t.co/HfbnxF7MSep 21 19:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Samsung To Open Bada To External Developers http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20110920-704250.html #bada #opensource #samsungSep 21 19:34
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DaemonFChttp://securitywatch.pcmag.com/adobe/288014-google-patches-flash-zero-day-bug-jumps-the-gun-on-adobe-againSep 21 19:39
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DaemonFChttp://blogs.adobe.com/flashplatform/2011/09/announcing-flash-player-11-and-air-3.htmlSep 21 19:41
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schestowitzRe: Feedin the Snit trollSep 21 19:42
schestowitz> Hi, Roy,Sep 21 19:42
schestowitz> Sep 21 19:42
schestowitz> He's gotten many people to take the bait now:Sep 21 19:42
schestowitz> http://techrights.org/2011/09/20/erosion-on-the-desktop/Sep 21 19:42
schestowitz> Sep 21 19:42
schestowitz> Love that bit about WindowsSep 21 19:42
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DaemonFCsnit?Sep 21 19:42
DaemonFC"he releases come about a week after Microsoft said the Metro-style version of Internet Explorer 10 on Windows 8 will not support plugins, meaning it will not support Adobe Flash."Sep 21 19:43
DaemonFC*theSep 21 19:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: Wow! Nearly at 25,000 followers.... who will be number 25k? http://p.ost.im/p/eYpkkSSep 21 19:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Life is stranger than fiction: UK publisher publishes unauthorized Assange draft manuscript http://t.co/9TvZ7vFtSep 21 19:47
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DaemonFCMicrosoft and Apple are in lock step these daysSep 21 19:50
DaemonFCat least as far as promoting nonfree formats and killing Adobe goesSep 21 19:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @wayneborean Comparing the Identi.ca and Facebook updates. Identi.ca - WIN! Facebook - Loose.Sep 21 19:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @wayneborean M-Audio has finally got off their backsides and updated the drivers for the ProFire2626! Now to play...Sep 21 19:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] O jantar de reunião da !ANSOL tem de ser fora do local marcado porque um dos participantes é realmente uma cadela :-)Sep 21 19:52
DaemonFC[14:54] <DaemonFC> Apple gets people to use mobile Safari the same way Verizon gets people to use BingSep 21 19:56
DaemonFC[14:55] <DaemonFC> it's the only thing the device will allow you to useSep 21 19:56
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schestowitzhttp://mrpogson.com/2011/09/21/www-linuxfoundation-org-is-back/Sep 21 19:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] NYC/NBCUniversal Pro-#Copyright Propaganda Contest For School Kids: Facts Not Allowed And Your Rights Don't Count - http://bit.ly/oxi4TP ha!Sep 21 19:59
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MinceRif only they killed adobeSep 21 20:00
schestowitzI thought the sameSep 21 20:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Wow, the new identi.ca interface looks awesome!Sep 21 20:01
schestowitzLOL http://mrpogson.com/2011/09/21/www-linuxfoundation-org-is-back/Sep 21 20:01
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schestowitzDevelopers with "IP"Sep 21 20:01
schestowitz:-)Sep 21 20:01
schestowitzSay the patent lawyersSep 21 20:01
schestowitzDevelopers with "IP"=monopolistsSep 21 20:02
schestowitzLike major companies with tons of monopolies on many algorithsmsSep 21 20:02
schestowitzoopsSep 21 20:02
schestowitzWtong linkSep 21 20:02
schestowitzHere it isSep 21 20:02
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/ksnhlaw/status/116513733764841473Sep 21 20:02
TechrightsBot-tr@ksnhlaw: #swpat debate: ideological battle betw developers of patented software and developers refusing to pay for others’ IP http://t.co/BvUFJbamSep 21 20:02
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schestowitzStupid lawyers pretend to be developersSep 21 20:02
schestowitzPretending to speak for Developers with "IP"Sep 21 20:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] holy fuck today is painful daySep 21 20:12
msbschestowitz: "<schestowitz> Re: Feedin the Snit troll" -- I think the word "troll" is not correct as applied to the anti-Linux posters in COLA. --  http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/T/troll.html -- troll 2.n An individual who ... chronically posts  specious arguments, flames or personal attacks to a newsgroup ... for no other purpose than to annoy someone or disrupt a discussion.                 Sep 21 20:16
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MinceRi think that pretty accurately describes his activities on IRCSep 21 20:17
msbThe anti-Linux posters in COLA have at least two goals.  One is to induce Linux people to attack them back and thus look bad.  That is correctly labelled "trolling".Sep 21 20:18
MinceRfair enoughSep 21 20:19
msbBut their other goal is to misinform visitors to the newsgroup about Linux.  COLA has 2480 subscribers through Google Groups alone.Sep 21 20:19
DaemonFCthe advocacy part is what is misleadingSep 21 20:21
DaemonFCit should be COLTSep 21 20:21
DaemonFCT is for TrollingSep 21 20:21
MinceRor COWMASep 21 20:21
MinceRwindows/macos advocacySep 21 20:21
DaemonFCdon't don't omgcheesecake idiots abuse COLA?Sep 21 20:22
msbAnd there are many other ways than Google to read Usenet.  Microsoft always seeks to prevent people from obtaining accurate knowledge about Linux.  The intense anti-Linux propaganda operation in COLA has been going on for well over a decade.Sep 21 20:22
DaemonFCunmoderated newsgroups are easy to hijackSep 21 20:22
msbConsidered objectively, there can be no doubt that most or all of the anti-Linux posters in COLA are Microsoft operatives.Sep 21 20:23
MinceRomgmono idiots are windows/m$ fanboys anyway, are they not?Sep 21 20:23
msbMinceR: I don't know, but Mono is the subject of only a few threads in COLA.Sep 21 20:25
msbAs to "feeding", one can distinguish two types of responses to the anti-Linux posters.  One is personal attacks (often in response to their personal attacks).  This can accurately be considered "troll feeding", and it serves Microsoft's purposes by making Linux people look bad.  I've tried to discourage it many times over the years, but unsuccessfully.Sep 21 20:28
MinceRany response feeds themSep 21 20:29
MinceRthey're in it for the attention, among other thingsSep 21 20:29
msbHowever, the other type of response is correcting the lies about Linux that they post.  The Linux folks don't want those lies to stand uncorrected, because, consciously or not, they think that uninformed people may read them and be influenced not to try Linux.Sep 21 20:30
MinceRthey'll just repeat the lies, won't they?Sep 21 20:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Great! ♻ @gabrielsaldana: funny atheist bake sale http://ur1.ca/551tk #atheismSep 21 20:31
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schestowitzMinceR: there's that tooSep 21 20:31
MinceRor call you a liarSep 21 20:31
schestowitzthey win if they don't get ahcllengedSep 21 20:31
schestowitzAnd then it becomes a normSep 21 20:31
schestowitzlike the "1% thing"Sep 21 20:31
schestowitzthey try to make that consensusSep 21 20:31
schestowitzThey just need to inject that into the right sites many timeSep 21 20:32
msbThat type of response is NOT "troll feeding".Sep 21 20:32
schestowitzThen it becomes "Cray" to contradictSep 21 20:32
sebsebsebschestowitz: Who might get sued over Mono?  The users?  the Developers? the Linux distribuotors?Sep 21 20:33
schestowitzLarge ones of eachSep 21 20:34
sebsebsebschestowitz: so all three? users? developers? and Linux distribuotrs?Sep 21 20:34
sebsebsebso i someone usees Banshee for example, they might get sued as a user?Sep 21 20:35
sebsebseb,because it's Mono?Sep 21 20:35
msbMinceR: "<MinceR> any response feeds them ... they're in it for the attention, among other things"  --  I think this is mostly incorrect.  They are Microsoft operatives; they're being compensated in some way by Microsoft for posting their lies and personal attacks in COLA.Sep 21 20:35
schestowitzlawsuits get filed when damages can be high to cover lawyer feedsSep 21 20:35
schestowitzlike oracle bs 150m androidsSep 21 20:35
sebsebsebschestowitz: so users can also be sued foru using Mono apps possbily?Sep 21 20:36
MinceRmsb: i'm not sure what percentage of them m$ actually paysSep 21 20:36
MinceRi suspect at least some of them are bored kidsSep 21 20:36
MinceRand people who made bad career choices and now are invested in a dinosaurSep 21 20:36
msbMinceR: It's true that we can't be sure, because they hide their identities and nymshift constantly.  However, when you consider that the enormous flood -- hundreds of posts per day -- of anti-Linux posts in Sep 21 20:37
msb... COLA has been going on for more than ten years without cease, that cannot be accounted for by bored kids.Sep 21 20:38
MinceRdunnoSep 21 20:39
msbIt has to be a Microsoft propaganda operation.  Note that it attacks Roy more than anyone else because of the good information that he posts in COLA.Sep 21 20:39
msbMicrosoft survives only by censoring information from the public (e.g. threatening to withdraw advertising dollars from publications that carry pro-Linux articles), and by preventing computer vendors from preinstalling Linux on machines that have Windows.Sep 21 20:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] !OccupyWallStreet must stop relying on centralized services like Facebook & Twitter! !activism !anarchism !socialism !communism !capitalismSep 21 20:42
msbAlso extortion via secret patents and giving $100,000,000 to SCO for its bogus lawsuit against Linux vendors and corporate users.Sep 21 20:43
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msbAnd bribing columnists to write anti-Linux articles.Sep 21 20:43
msbWithout these techniques of lies, censorship, and coercion, Microsoft's inferior products would have been defeated in the marketplace years ago.Sep 21 20:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] Beating back the banks Tahrir style: http://takethesquare.net/2011/07/30/occupy-wall-street-tahrir-style/ !OWSSep 21 20:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Constitutional #Court: limited responsibility for #bloggers in #France http://tinyurl.com/3o7ozsjSep 21 20:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Patent Reform and #Android | Techrights http://tinyurl.com/3f35wnaSep 21 20:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is marjoleink with 239 dents!Sep 21 20:46
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msbThe people who run Microsoft are well aware of this.  So they pursue these operations everywhere, in venues large and small.  They have the money to do it.Sep 21 20:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] !OWS Day 4: At least five arrested and one possibly in critical condition: http://redd.it/kmsihSep 21 20:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] cryptogon.com » High-Traffic Colluding Tor Routers in Washington, D.C., and the Ugly Truth About Online Anonymity http://tinyurl.com/3m7dorrSep 21 20:49
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/84209923 http://identi.ca/notice/84209947Sep 21 20:49
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TechrightsBot-tr@John (jarel)'s status on Wednesday, 21-Sep-11 19:26:39 UTC - Identi.ca: Hm, not sure if that ended up in a useful place.  If not ... sorry @Schestowitz!Sep 21 20:49
schestowitzYes, the impression I got from @even if that they will re-establish the connection within a day or soSep 21 20:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #scitek - cryptogon.com » Nanoparticles Cause Brain Injury in Fish http://tinyurl.com/3o6bhakSep 21 20:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #usa #stateterrorism - cryptogon.com » U.S. Assembling Drone Bases in Africa, Arabian Peninsula http://tinyurl.com/3nbkywySep 21 20:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] And the free software movement wants Nina Paley to stop using proprietary tools that are antithetical to free culture and software.Sep 21 20:54
msbThis URL above doesn't work for me:   http://tinyurl.com/3m7dorr  -- but the page is here:  http://cryptogon.com/?p=624  Sep 21 20:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #surveillance #privacy - cryptogon.com » OnStar Begins Spying On Customers’ GPS Location for Profit http://tinyurl.com/3rnslqrSep 21 20:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @dpic: And the free software movement wants Nina Paley to stop using proprietary tools that are antithetical to free culture and software.Sep 21 20:57
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MinceRjust tried out reactosSep 21 21:01
MinceRworks just like the real thingSep 21 21:01
MinceR(i.e. crashes like it got paid for it)Sep 21 21:02
DaemonFCbut it's Russian....Sep 21 21:02
DaemonFC:)Sep 21 21:02
MinceRhm, actually it was only exporer that crashedSep 21 21:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pumpkin/@pumpkin] Zapatero promises action to combat internet piracy http://wikileaks.ch/cable/2009/10/09MADRID1052.html !wikileaksSep 21 21:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #usa #stateterrorism - cryptogon.com » Rumsfeld Stripped of Immunity in Case Involving #Torture of U.S. Citizens cryptogon.com/?p=24966Sep 21 21:04
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DaemonFCMinceR: Did you see Adobe's huge press release today to announce that they shipped Flash 11 RC two weeks ago? :)Sep 21 21:05
MinceRnopeSep 21 21:05
schestowitzTomorrow we'll record another showSep 21 21:06
schestowitzGoblin gets a break once in 2 weeks nowSep 21 21:07
schestowitzWhat's the purpose of ReactOS really?Sep 21 21:07
schestowitzIIRC, they still use a lot of wineSep 21 21:07
MinceRto reimplement a failed designSep 21 21:07
schestowitzMicrosoft hired one of their key devsSep 21 21:07
MinceRi hoped i could use it to run some RadioActiveX shit at work with itSep 21 21:07
schestowitzThat ought to starvce the projectSep 21 21:07
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MinceRi'll try wine instead :>Sep 21 21:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] urlBorg: toolsSep 21 21:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The Linux desktop is not "Dead". Someone just needed some blog traffic because ZDNet employment is hinged on it (said Dana B.), not accuracySep 21 21:21
schestowitzDon't whine. WineSep 21 21:23
schestowitz:-)Sep 21 21:23
schestowitzToday at the gym a friend asked me how to work out fastSep 21 21:23
schestowitzI told himSep 21 21:23
schestowitzWork out. Fast.Sep 21 21:23
schestowitzhe chuckledSep 21 21:23
MinceR:DSep 21 21:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lmarcetic/@lmarcetic] #Al-Jazeera director resigns following a !wikileaks cable purporting he censored content unfavorable to US: http://ur1.ca/5525o !libyaSep 21 21:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Moorfields opens its eyes to open source software http://is.gd/8DYhUC the way to go. #nhs #ukSep 21 21:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz Moorfields opens its eyes to open source software http://is.gd/8DYhUC the way to go. #nhs #ukSep 21 21:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] MT: Number of open source applications on government desktops doubled http://is.gd/BplQQG #malta #euSep 21 21:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Microsoft tries to block Linux off Windows 8 PCs http://t.co/8SbeeqLS Here we go again. #Linux #Windows #uefi #microsoftSep 21 21:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz MT: Number of open source applications on government desktops doubled http://is.gd/BplQQG #malta #euSep 21 21:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] VAR Guy site after acquisition: "JavaScript is currently off. Turn it on in browser settings to view this mobile website." So I'm blocked.Sep 21 21:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Suicide by Roller Coaster : is this the future of euthanasia they ask? http://goo.gl/iSGHf Are they serious?Sep 21 21:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Pardus 2011.2 screenshot preview http://is.gd/numqFr Fine Turkish GNU/Linux Distribution in PicturesSep 21 21:42
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schestowitzByfield: http://www.datamation.com/open-source/windows-8-metro-and-the-linux-desktop-1.htmlSep 21 21:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I thinks I can see that actually. The old view allowed two people to sidetrack way all by themselves. The very definition of ratholing :)Sep 21 21:44
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/84210865Sep 21 21:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] http://repl.it/ language coolness under an MIT license :DSep 21 21:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz In "Connected applications" - how long before an Identi.ca-twitter bridge is restored? @supportSep 21 21:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @schestowitz MT: Number of open source applications on government desktops doubled http://is.gd/BplQQG #malta #euSep 21 21:47
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twitter-> "Forbes said the combined wealth of the 400 people on this year's list is $1.5 trillion, with an average net worth of $3.8 billion. That amounts to a 12 percent increase from last year."Sep 21 21:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Thanks, man!Sep 21 21:52
DaemonFCglad to see the "recovery" was kind to themSep 21 21:53
DaemonFCnow back to being unemployed and having them lobby for the government to take your unemployment benefits and give them another tax cut with the savings?Sep 21 21:53
MinceRgnSep 21 21:55
DaemonFC"none of the students in that class deserve an education"Sep 21 21:56
DaemonFCfriend of mine in a government job training programSep 21 21:56
DaemonFC"Sep 21 21:56
DaemonFCyeahSep 21 21:56
DaemonFCthey're sitting there because it's a requirement of their welfare or probationSep 21 21:56
DaemonFCdon't say that in front of them, they'll kill youSep 21 21:56
DaemonFC-me :PSep 21 21:56
schestowitz[21:51] <twitter> -> "Forbes said the combined wealth of the 400 people on this year's list is $1.5 trillion, with an average net worth of $3.8 billion. That amounts to a 12 percent increase from last year."Sep 21 21:57
schestowitzDepression?Sep 21 21:57
schestowitzWhat depression?Sep 21 21:57
schestowitzMore like confiscationSep 21 21:57
schestowitzDaemonFC: :-)Sep 21 21:58
schestowitzYour aunt, right?Sep 21 21:58
schestowitzWith the 6-digit salarySep 21 21:58
schestowitzthat taxpayers paySep 21 21:58
DaemonFCnoSep 21 21:58
DaemonFCmehSep 21 21:58
DaemonFCthere's so much corruption in the state government that I'm sure her salary is not a big problem in the grand scheme of things :)Sep 21 21:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Apparently, integer math! I've seen that problem before; will evaluate.Sep 21 21:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] We've disabled some of the more complex code while we get the basic stuff stabilized. see http://identi.ca/url/5313802Sep 21 22:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] I think they heard we changed our code-naming scheme for StatusNet. http://identi.ca/url/33758685Sep 21 22:01
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DaemonFChim "and once the dumb fucks come back from lunch all hell breaks lose"Sep 21 22:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #monopolies - Article 102 of the Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union - Wikipedia en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_82Sep 21 22:02
DaemonFCme "by "lunch", you mean "smoking weed behind the dumpster""Sep 21 22:03
DaemonFC:PSep 21 22:03
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DaemonFCme "spawn kids, live off the government, don't brush your teeth, act as if you've never heard of soap, and make sure you *ALWAYS* get in line in front of me at Walmart. bring the kids!"Sep 21 22:06
DaemonFCI hate AmazonSep 21 22:10
DaemonFChttp://www.amazon.com/POWER-STICK-Body-Blast-354mlSep 21 22:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Linux works best when nobody hears about it because there are no 'incidents'. When did we last hear about LSE?Sep 21 22:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks fundraiser: Vivienne Westwood's Gold Label Paris Fashion Show Tickets http://t.co/5pCjqGehSep 21 22:12
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DaemonFCSeamonkey gives me a bad SSL certificate warning on kernel.orgSep 21 22:19
DaemonFCwhat's going on with that?Sep 21 22:19
DaemonFChttps://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s320x320/302366_10150289234465806_693555805_8285762_1123111751_n.jpgSep 21 22:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] RT @fendus I, for one, welcome our new !heehaw overlordsSep 21 22:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Top 25 Of 2011 | Project Censored www.projectcensored.org/top-stories/articles/category/top-stories/top-25-of-2011/Sep 21 22:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] It is !disturbing that @bkuhn has #fail'ed to join the !heehaw groupSep 21 22:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] 2. US Department of Defense is the Worst Polluter on the Planet | Project Censored http://tinyurl.com/42hegx6Sep 21 22:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] 11. The H1N1 Swine Flu Pandemic: Manipulating Data to Enrich Drug Companies | Project Censored http://tinyurl.com/3fjzpteSep 21 22:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] 14. Increased Tensions with Unresolved 9/11 Issues | Project Censored http://goo.gl/FEtVSep 21 22:37
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/84211466Sep 21 22:40
TechrightsBot-tr@faither's status on Wednesday, 21-Sep-11 21:25:14 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz If it didn't work this: http://bit.ly/oYZLf9 would look different.Sep 21 22:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I thought that arrow referred to the ID? Is it just the nick mention then? I don't really knowSep 21 22:41
DaemonFC[17:42] <DaemonFC> Apple had a reputation for security?Sep 21 22:44
DaemonFC[17:43] <DaemonFC> I thought they only had a reputation for telling their support people to not help MAC Defender victimsSep 21 22:44
DaemonFC[17:43] <DaemonFC> :)Sep 21 22:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] What is the advantage of a designated question? http://identi.ca/question/c3319f18-b604-4dc6-bbe9-27514c13dca9Sep 21 22:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Links 21/9/2011: Pardus 2011.2, Red Hat’s Results Impress http://is.gd/GldZKD #techrightsSep 21 22:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 21/9/2011: Pardus 2011.2, Red Hat’s Results Impress http://is.gd/GldZKDSep 21 22:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] It's the feature I understand the least, well apart from the designated question feature. I'm dumbstruck there :)Sep 21 22:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Ah, I suppose that makes senseSep 21 22:49
twitterpreviously, they had BSD privilege separation, that's a good start and better than that other OS, but they seem to have blown it hard -> (02:50:37 PM) DaemonFC: [17:42] <DaemonFC> Apple had a reputation for security?Sep 21 22:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] It's almost like it's in transition for something yet to come?Sep 21 22:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] However, we don't include group info. Maybe as "statusnet_to_group_id" and "status_net_to_group_nickname"?Sep 21 22:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] Kind of annoyed that identi.ca's [ and StatusNet's ] "switch to mobile layout" link requires #Javascript to work!Sep 21 22:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Oh, also: I'm glad you like it!Sep 21 22:56
twitterYou and your neighbors might do that, but you will still take less from me and do me less harm than Gates and the other 400 richest swine in the US -> (02:12:40 PM) DaemonFC: me "spawn kids, live off the government, don't brush your teeth, act as if you've never heard of soap, and make sure you *ALWAYS* get in line in front of me at Walmart. bring the kids!"Sep 21 22:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] answered "Should every question be answered?"Sep 21 22:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] You don't see the posts at all? That's strange!Sep 21 22:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] An innocent man is scheduled to be murdered by the state in an hour. I am Troy Davis. The world is watching.Sep 21 22:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] You were diagnosed with cancer? That's terrible!Sep 21 22:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] It's been possible to post to a group or reply to a person without a tag in the content since forever. The new web UI makes it more common.Sep 21 23:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] I don't get "pax".Sep 21 23:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #BeOS #tpm #tcpa #uefi #microsoft #dirtytricks - He Who Controls the Bootloader http://goo.gl/Of4V7Sep 21 23:04
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DaemonFC"There is no technical reason why CompUSA customers shouldn't be able to walk out of the shop with a machine that asks "Which OS do you want to use today?" "Sep 21 23:05
DaemonFCsure there isSep 21 23:05
DaemonFCCompUSA is out of business ;)Sep 21 23:05
twitterthat's a good essay given the news about Vista 8's gnu/linux hostile firmwareSep 21 23:06
DaemonFC"about how Linux is ready for the general desktop" in 2001? Not only no, but hell no.Sep 21 23:06
DaemonFC:)Sep 21 23:06
DaemonFCin 2011, sureSep 21 23:07
twitterCompUSA, a proud Microsoft partner run by Mexico's richest man.  Vista killed them and the owner got tired of losing money.Sep 21 23:07
schestowitzit was good in 2001Sep 21 23:07
twitterI was using Debian in 2001Sep 21 23:07
schestowitzfor many things it was sufficientSep 21 23:07
schestowitzand had more features than win2000Sep 21 23:07
twitterworked great, better than Windows at everything importantSep 21 23:07
schestowitzEven XP laterSep 21 23:07
DaemonFCyeah, Windows 2000 didn't have the feature where my network, video, and printer didn't workSep 21 23:08
DaemonFCLinux did in 2001 :)Sep 21 23:08
twitteryou had the wrong hardwareSep 21 23:08
schestowitzi did a lot of development in Linux back thenSep 21 23:08
schestowitzOpenGL stuff tooSep 21 23:08
DaemonFCyou need the magical hardwareSep 21 23:08
DaemonFCthe stuff no OEM usedSep 21 23:08
DaemonFCthen it would workSep 21 23:08
schestowitzit struggled with WMP-oriented sitesSep 21 23:08
twitterno, you just had to avoid crapSep 21 23:08
twitterwinmodems Sep 21 23:08
schestowitzThose that insist you should use win+ie to get some videos, now we have youtube and realplayer is historySep 21 23:08
schestowitzremember installing realplay?Sep 21 23:09
schestowitzI can't believe we used toi have their helix bundledSep 21 23:09
twitterno, I just did withoutSep 21 23:09
DaemonFCyes, I remember it tried taking over WindowsSep 21 23:09
schestowitzWhat a clusterfsckSep 21 23:09
DaemonFCand installing third party spywareSep 21 23:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Oh, good.Sep 21 23:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] It'd be interesting to hear what you think about the ordering. We do it reverse-chron, like other API calls.Sep 21 23:09
DaemonFCRealPlayer formats now are just MPEG 4 in Real container formatsSep 21 23:10
twitterwho publishes in those?Sep 21 23:10
twitterwhy would I care?Sep 21 23:10
DaemonFCVLC and Gstreamer can both decode them fineSep 21 23:10
DaemonFCthe BBS tells you to get RealPlayer iircSep 21 23:10
DaemonFC*BBCSep 21 23:10
twitterickSep 21 23:10
DaemonFCThey still have the Helix frameworkSep 21 23:12
DaemonFCit's open sourceSep 21 23:12
DaemonFCparts of it are not that badSep 21 23:12
schestowitzBBC is the realplayer of newsSep 21 23:12
schestowitzIt's to news what realplayer is to media playersSep 21 23:12
schestowitza relicSep 21 23:12
twitterin 2001 there were more external Microsoft dependencies, like companies that demanded resumes in Microsoft Word and Banks that offered spreadsheets in Microsoft formats.  Sep 21 23:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Considered building a tree structure, or having it in some other tree-ish order, but this just made sense.Sep 21 23:12
DaemonFCthere still areSep 21 23:13
schestowitzbig brand.. with a .co.uk web siteSep 21 23:13
twitterI'm glad that's all over, it was worse than not being able to use a particular printer.Sep 21 23:13
DaemonFCbut LibreOffice can churn them outSep 21 23:13
twitterIf they ask for Word.docx, you probably don't want to work there.Sep 21 23:13
schestowitzDaemonFC: what distro does Carl use now? Kubuntu?Sep 21 23:14
DaemonFCyeahSep 21 23:14
schestowitzcoolSep 21 23:14
schestowitzno opensuse for carl fsarmerSep 21 23:14
twitterbblSep 21 23:14
DaemonFChe installed it a long time agoSep 21 23:14
DaemonFCso long that his main partitions were ReiserFSSep 21 23:15
schestowitzlibreoffice insists that I save thr doc files as ODFSep 21 23:15
schestowitzthis is goodSep 21 23:15
schestowitzbut some of my colleagues are too Windows-bound to know what odf is and what to do with itSep 21 23:15
DaemonFCso Word can open and mutilate themSep 21 23:15
DaemonFCand you get back something claiming to be ODF that LibreOffice can't openSep 21 23:15
schestowitzyeahSep 21 23:15
schestowitzso I've hardSep 21 23:15
schestowitzbad equation handlingSep 21 23:15
schestowitzit mixes moox and odfSep 21 23:16
schestowitzbut every other office suite has no difficultiesSep 21 23:16
schestowitzI stopped thinking about it TBHSep 21 23:16
schestowitzA while back some PR person sent me a MOOX fileSep 21 23:16
schestowitzHe was going to set up an interview with some manager, for a techrights acricleSep 21 23:16
schestowitzBut he made the mistake of sending MOOX :-)Sep 21 23:17
schestowitzWhich I thought was impolite of himSep 21 23:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] RT @mdim @dpic I agree. Now what we need is RMS and Nina Paley listen to each other and make a principled stand. #freesoftware #freecultureSep 21 23:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] RT @ossington And regardless of innocence, state-sanctioned murder is still murder.Sep 21 23:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I'm assuming the aim is cutting out unnecessary characters? Is that why you made The Web UI default to nickless replies, @evan ?Sep 21 23:17
DaemonFCBeOS wasn't very sophisticatedSep 21 23:19
DaemonFCstill reading some of that guys old articlesSep 21 23:19
DaemonFCit was a hell of a lot better than Windows 98Sep 21 23:19
DaemonFCbut it wasn't UNIX eitherSep 21 23:19
DaemonFChaving no concept of multiple users is indefensible with a modern desktop OS, even if there's only one human being that uses the system they still shouldn't own every file Sep 21 23:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] !tzag Good Evening !Identiverse although less than an hour of it left here now.Sep 21 23:21
DaemonFCin that aspect, it was no better than Windows 98Sep 21 23:21
DaemonFCI'm hoping Haiku intends to address that shortcomingSep 21 23:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] Using identi.ca web UI, went to profile page. How to post now? no "Post" button even though I can edit a text input area?? #confusedSep 21 23:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] Will Windows 8 PCs Shut the Door on Linux? http://tinyurl.com/3fjnogn #linuxSep 21 23:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Will Windows 8 PCs Shut the Door on Linux? | PCWorld Business Center .::. Size~: 79.02 KBSep 21 23:27
DaemonFCMozilla is still working on Boot To GeckoSep 21 23:32
DaemonFCwhich is a hell of a lot nicer than the thought of Google Crash as the OSSep 21 23:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @dpic: @osc She's done a lot of great work. I can still think she should stop using software that is anti-freedom. // so should everyone!Sep 21 23:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] I enable #javascript and a "send" button appears, feels like StatusNet punched me in the face and kicked me in the nuts AT THE SAME TIME!Sep 21 23:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] new identi.ca web UI just started sucking .... need to figure out some work-arounds to Javascript dependency :(Sep 21 23:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: @jfopen Fixed. Must have accidentally blocked instead of followed you sometime in the past... http://p.ost.im/p/e22YY8Sep 21 23:51
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schestowitzBoot to Gecko?Sep 21 23:55
schestowitzAs in... what?Sep 21 23:55
schestowitzI know about an OS for their browserSep 21 23:55
schestowitzWhich wouldn't fly, I reckonSep 21 23:55
DaemonFC?Sep 21 23:58
DaemonFCit's going to be linux basedSep 21 23:58
DaemonFChttp://www.reuters.com/article/2011/09/21/us-monsanto-lawsuit-idUSTRE78K79O20110921Sep 21 23:58
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Monsanto wins lawsuit against Indiana soybean farmer | Reuters .::. Size~: 87.64 KBSep 21 23:58

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