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• Needs Sunlight

  2011-09-20 18:52:11

  Speaking of hijacking Yahoo!, M$ is hemorrhaging money through Bing, Yahoo!'s new back end. It is the sad end of Yahoo!

• Dr. Roy Schestowitz

  2011-09-20 19:14:00

  Microsoft loves devouring competitors using dodgy tactics.
  
  Notice that, based on this article from the corporate press, "Bing, Microsoft's two-year old search engine, is losing nearly a $1 billion a quarter, with no sign of letting up.
  
  "Microsoft has lost $5.5 billion on Bing since the search service launched in June 2009, but the company's search losses actually pre-date that. In fact, the software giant has never made money in its online services division. Since Microsoft began breaking out that unit's finances in 2007, the company has lost a total of $9 billion."
  
  Here is the part I don't like. They cite US-only 'stats' from comScore, which is a partner of Microsoft. The reader might think that "Bing currently maintains a 14.7% share of the search market, up from 8.4% when Bing launched" (false).
  
  It also says: "More than half the share that Bing has gained has actually come from third-place Yahoo. The rest has come from search cellar-dwellers Ask.com and AOL.
  
  "There's usually no such thing as "bad" market share growth, but Yahoo's search is powered by Bing. That means more than half of Microsoft's share growth has come from cannibalizing its search partner."
  
  Now, let's tackle the propaganda using a reality check regarding Bing losses in more than just the financial sense/aspect.
  
  As Homer points out in USENET (Tuesday 20 Sep 2011 19:31),"That's only in the US, though, which has rather different trends to the rest of the world. Globally, Google's market share is 83.02%, and Bing isn't even in double figures at just 4.01%.
  
  http://www.netmarketshare.com/search-engine-market-share.aspx?qprid=4&qpcustomd=0
  
  "Google's market share is even more impressive on mobile platforms, at 92.04%, while Bing barely registers a single percent at just 1.18%.
  
  http://www.netmarketshare.com/search-engine-market-share.aspx?qprid=4&qpcustomd=1
  
  Thank the corporate journalism for more spin and conditioning for false information.

• Needs Sunlight

  2011-09-21 06:40:29

  LiveSearch was the name before it was changed to Bing. How much money did LiveSearch lose and for how long? That needs to be added in, too.

• twitter

  2011-09-21 20:53:12

  Nice roundup, thanks.

• Michael

  2011-09-20 21:51:42

  This site has considerable downtime: as such, aren't the complaints against MS a little hypocritical?

• XFaCE

  2011-09-21 12:43:05

  Well no, because Roy is one guy, and Microsoft is large corporation that promotes a reputation for quality and reliability, and people give it their money based on the promises given by this reputation. I think it's reasonable to expect that Microsoft would have higher standards than a single guy hosting a blog and wiki. By your logic, I'm pretty sure most people would be hypocrites for criticizing anything.

• XFaCE

  2011-09-21 12:43:46

  *Higher standards and ability to avoid excessive downtime.

• Dr. Roy Schestowitz

  2011-09-21 18:19:42

  You are feeding a known troll, telling him something he already knows.

• Michael

  2011-09-21 14:15:57

  I am a single person who runs websites as well. I do not have the type of downtime that Roy does with his site. Given how he builds his reputation on how reliable Linux is, wouldn't you think he would want his site to have amazingly good up-time.
  
  Full disclosure: My sites run on Linux. By my choice. I think it is the best solution for my needs.

• Dr. Roy Schestowitz

  2011-09-21 18:22:58

  Your site is hardly touched. Techrights gets about 1,000 times the traffic, which is why you troll Techrights. You're a bottom-feeding troll.

• twitter

  2011-09-21 18:13:14

  Given the tiny staff available to Techrights and the continued DDoS and other malice directed at the site, the wonder is not that Techrights suffers downtime, it's that Techrights is up at all. These issues were reported as they happened. Larger organizations fall to smaller and less sophisticated attacks all the time.

• Dr. Roy Schestowitz

  2011-09-21 18:19:03

  Companies have redundancy and people who constantly monitor the site (24/7 NOC). After we got DDOSed we couldn't even afford a monitored hosting plan, so if Apache goes awkward while I'm a sleep, it's down until I wake up. It happened 3 times this month, which is unusual. All the administration is done from the command line in Cent OS.

• Michael

  2011-09-21 18:25:53

  Excuses. You cannot keep your own site running and you whine about others when they go down.
  
  I know my sites have much better up time than yours. As I said, though, this is nothing against Linux - I use Linux for web hosting and think it is the best option for my needs (I could just as easily use Windows or OS X).