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| DaemonFC | attacking farmers who got Monsanto's adulterated seeds in an unlabeled seed mix | Sep 22 00:02 |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.courierpress.com/news/2011/sep/21/federal-officials-mum-reason-evansville-ihop-raid/ | Sep 22 00:02 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Federal officials mum on reason for Evansville IHOP raid » Evansville Courier & Press .::. Size~: 110.8 KB | Sep 22 00:02 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] The #EFF #SSL Observatory | Electronic Frontier Foundation http://ur1.ca/10epg | Sep 22 00:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] Used old identi.ca web UI to maintain #context in replies, new web UI requires Javascript. I'll be forced to use identifox. Goodbye context | Sep 22 00:02 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The EFF SSL Observatory | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 13.8 KB | Sep 22 00:03 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] ripping: Men At Work #winning! | Sep 22 00:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I wonder what proportion of users use APIs and what proportion use the !identica Web Site? | Sep 22 00:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] !Mageia #Mageia #mageiabirthday #mageiabirthday1 #2011 http://ostatic.com/blog/happy-birthday-mageia | Sep 22 00:06 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Happy Birthday Mageia! .::. Size~: 35.74 KB | Sep 22 00:06 |
| *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.87 [SeaMonkey 2.4/20110916205511]) | Sep 22 00:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @silner: I wonder what proportion of users use APIs and what proportion use the !identica Web Site? | Sep 22 00:11 | |
| *DaemonFC (~chatzilla@adsl-99-37-244-50.dsl.sbndin.sbcglobal.net) has joined #techrights | Sep 22 00:13 | |
| schestowitz | [00:02] <DaemonFC> attacking farmers who got Monsanto's adulterated seeds in an unlabeled seed mix | Sep 22 00:22 |
| schestowitz | They OWN these | Sep 22 00:22 |
| schestowitz | Are you a seeds THIRF? | Sep 22 00:22 |
| schestowitz | it's their INTELLCTUAL PROPERTY, you COMMUNIST !! :-) | Sep 22 00:22 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @Valleywag: Amazon Recruits Medics for Its Sweatshop http://t.co/MvITa4To | Sep 22 00:22 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Sep 22 00:23 |
| schestowitz | http://www.zdnet.com/blog/networking/google-is-now-open-for-everyone-to-try/1484 | Sep 22 00:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Google+ is now open for everyone to try | ZDNet .::. Size~: 133.17 KB | Sep 22 00:23 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: old news | Sep 22 00:23 |
| sebsebseb | that Googlehype is open | Sep 22 00:23 |
| schestowitz | :-) | Sep 22 00:25 |
| schestowitz | goglehype | Sep 22 00:25 |
| schestowitz | +1 | Sep 22 00:25 |
| schestowitz | Yay! Now I can blog for Google! | Sep 22 00:25 |
| schestowitz | Because why would I want to blog in my own site :-) /sarcasm | Sep 22 00:25 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] The OWF opening reception was not actually sponsored by OOXML even if the signs implied it... http://pic.twitter.com/6UMGZi08 | Sep 22 00:27 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Sep 22 00:27 |
| Kryczek | not having to worry about security? Other than that I agree ;) | Sep 22 00:28 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitzI used Adblock Plus to get rid of the +1 crap, images, servers it uses on Google's site.... | Sep 22 00:29 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] Yesterday I learnt how to configure #WinFF to process #webM and any other formats that #ffmpeg can handle. Yesterday was a good day. :) | Sep 22 00:29 | |
| schestowitz | I hate new twitter | Sep 22 00:30 |
| schestowitz | not accessible to konq | Sep 22 00:30 |
| Kryczek | I hate new facebook | Sep 22 00:30 |
| schestowitz | sometimes it can crash it too | Sep 22 00:30 |
| Kryczek | I hate Web 2.0 | Sep 22 00:31 |
| sebsebseb | jono: about at all? | Sep 22 00:31 |
| Kryczek | the Internet was nicer in the 90s :( | Sep 22 00:31 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz new twitter can crash Chrome, and if you use selinux and don't run restorecon -R on .config/google-chrome, then it won't load people's twitter pages all the way | Sep 22 00:32 |
| DaemonFC | it leaves the content bit blank because a javascript is pissing off selinux | Sep 22 00:32 |
| Kryczek | hah | Sep 22 00:33 |
| Kryczek | selinux on a desktop? man you're courageous :) | Sep 22 00:33 |
| DaemonFC | Chrome does a lot of nasty things that make it difficult to properly confine | Sep 22 00:34 |
| Kryczek | I like Joanna Rutkowska's approach | Sep 22 00:36 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] EFF joins broad coalition to tell Congress: violating Internet terms-of-service shouldn't be a computer crime! https://eff.org/r.3Ct | Sep 22 00:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @eff: EFF joins broad coalition to tell Congress: violating Internet terms-of-service shouldn't be a computer crime! https://eff.org/r.3Ct | Sep 22 00:36 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Left/Right Groups Praise Computer Crimes Amendment | Center for Democracy & Technology .::. Size~: 33.53 KB | Sep 22 00:36 |
| Kryczek | (in fact I came across of it because I was trying to do the same thing) | Sep 22 00:36 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Left/Right Groups Praise Computer Crimes Amendment | Center for Democracy & Technology .::. Size~: 33.53 KB | Sep 22 00:36 |
| Kryczek | DaemonFC: http://qubes-os.org/Home.html | Sep 22 00:38 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Home .::. Size~: 7.13 KB | Sep 22 00:38 |
| DaemonFC | http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/2349/snapshot9w.png | Sep 22 00:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting image/png type | Sep 22 00:39 |
| DaemonFC | Seamonkey 2.4 beta 3, Classic theme | Sep 22 00:39 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: fedora 17? | Sep 22 00:40 |
| schestowitz | 16 | Sep 22 00:40 |
| DaemonFC | no | Sep 22 00:40 |
| DaemonFC | Kubuntu 11.10 | Sep 22 00:40 |
| schestowitz | thanks | Sep 22 00:40 |
| Kryczek | DaemonFC: what do you think of Qubes OS? | Sep 22 00:40 |
| Kryczek | (took me a while to find that link again :P ) | Sep 22 00:41 |
| DaemonFC | not sure | Sep 22 00:41 |
| DaemonFC | need to look further | Sep 22 00:41 |
| DaemonFC | I'm not really all that familiar with Xen | Sep 22 00:41 |
| DaemonFC | I do understand the hypervisor concept though | Sep 22 00:41 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: I run 10.04 | Sep 22 00:42 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !Kubuntu 11.10 http://is.gd/poMxvh | Sep 22 00:42 | |
| schestowitz | http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2011/07/25/august-2011/ | Sep 22 00:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting image/png type | Sep 22 00:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » Vacation Until August .::. Size~: 33.98 KB | Sep 22 00:42 |
| DaemonFC | stable software is for old ladies :) | Sep 22 00:43 |
| DaemonFC | xorg-edgers says so | Sep 22 00:43 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Sep 22 00:43 |
| Kryczek | haha | Sep 22 00:43 |
| Kryczek | made my day :D | Sep 22 00:43 |
| DaemonFC | it's rare that I'm not running beta, git snapshots, etc. of stuff | Sep 22 00:44 |
| DaemonFC | including core system components | Sep 22 00:44 |
| schestowitz | Oh noes | Sep 22 00:45 |
| Kryczek | when I'm rich I'll by a fast server running Gentoo with a permanent rsync | Sep 22 00:45 |
| Kryczek | (Gentoo or LFS) | Sep 22 00:45 |
| schestowitz | The Microsoft booster writes for Ars now, in addition to DrPizza | Sep 22 00:45 |
| DaemonFC | of course many of the larger free software projects have a review and quality control process of one kind or another that makes "trunk build" and "git snapshot" sound worse than it is most of the time | Sep 22 00:45 |
| schestowitz | Joe the MSFTer is there too now... http://arstechnica.com/business/news/2011/09/despite-enterprise-dominance-microsoft-struggles-in-web-server-market.ars?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=rss | Sep 22 00:45 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Despite enterprise dominance, Microsoft struggles in Web server market .::. Size~: 35.55 KB | Sep 22 00:45 |
| Kryczek | haha | Sep 22 00:45 |
| Kryczek | who would run IIS :P | Sep 22 00:45 |
| schestowitz | the SS | Sep 22 00:46 |
| Kryczek | IIS is for grandpas | Sep 22 00:46 |
| DaemonFC | IIS is for Microsoft Gold Kool Aid drinkers | Sep 22 00:46 |
| Kryczek | when their wife is running a too old version of Apache | Sep 22 00:46 |
| DaemonFC | who are also smoking crack | Sep 22 00:46 |
| schestowitz | cracked serial number | Sep 22 00:47 |
| Kryczek | "MCPs" :) | Sep 22 00:47 |
| schestowitz | "yay! I 'pirated' IIS" | Sep 22 00:47 |
| Kryczek | haha | Sep 22 00:47 |
| schestowitz | "Chuck it, mate. Apache's much better." | Sep 22 00:47 |
| Kryczek | that reminds of all those "3rd party" editions of Windows XP | Sep 22 00:47 |
| schestowitz | ngin hacks | Sep 22 00:47 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] had to change !trisquel window theme to trisquel 2 b/c title on left was so ugly. how did I not notice that before? | Sep 22 00:47 | |
| Kryczek | Platinum, Plutonium or whatever it was called | Sep 22 00:47 |
| schestowitz | some nginx PR people contacted me some days ago | Sep 22 00:48 |
| Kryczek | "now with 200% more spyware!" | Sep 22 00:48 |
| schestowitz | Kryczek: second one is free | Sep 22 00:48 |
| DaemonFC | I got Windows under the Pirate Bay Public License. A bunch of cmd.exe windows flew around as it was setting itself up, but I'm pretty sure this is on the up and up. The guy that uploaded it had the pink skull and cross bones, that means he can be trusted :) | Sep 22 00:48 |
| schestowitz | in the same box | Sep 22 00:48 |
| Kryczek | :D | Sep 22 00:48 |
| schestowitz | just another serial number printer | Sep 22 00:48 |
| schestowitz | WHAT A BARGAIN | Sep 22 00:48 |
| schestowitz | more bits to copy | Sep 22 00:48 |
| Kryczek | DaemonFC: lol :) | Sep 22 00:48 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] !ANSOL board meeting was very pleasant, lots of decisions done, hopefully we'll be better organized. Thank you all for coming! | Sep 22 00:49 | |
| Kryczek | I'm still amazed by people's understanding of security | Sep 22 00:49 |
| Kryczek | I saw an accountant on the phone with (I guess) another accountant | Sep 22 00:50 |
| Kryczek | from another company | Sep 22 00:50 |
| DaemonFC | oh don't worry, I got an antivirus crack from him too! | Sep 22 00:50 |
| Kryczek | about to exchange highly sensitive financial data | Sep 22 00:50 |
| Kryczek | so one asks the other | Sep 22 00:50 |
| Kryczek | "is your email secure?" | Sep 22 00:50 |
| Kryczek | (I guess the correspondant says yes) | Sep 22 00:50 |
| Kryczek | "good good, ours is secure too" | Sep 22 00:51 |
| Kryczek | and then the accountant sent the files in cleartext before I realized WTF? | Sep 22 00:51 |
| DaemonFC | I wouldn't trust Windows much outside a virtual machine | Sep 22 00:51 |
| Kryczek | DaemonFC: yeah I really would like to know what people think "secure" means | Sep 22 00:52 |
| Kryczek | maybe they were talking about the fact that the mail server is securely resting on the floor | Sep 22 00:52 |
| DaemonFC | I wonder if Win32 is like a tree. You know how you can cut down a tree and then estimate its age by how many growth rings it has. | Sep 22 00:53 |
| schestowitz | [00:51] <Kryczek> and then the accountant sent the files in cleartext before I realized WTF? | Sep 22 00:53 |
| DaemonFC | layer upon layer | Sep 22 00:53 |
| schestowitz | A lot of people mail password by email | Sep 22 00:53 |
| schestowitz | Even today someone did it | Sep 22 00:54 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @jimmy Foi uma reunião interessante e produtiva. Foram feitas propostas importantes. | Sep 22 00:54 | |
| schestowitz | For me, I give my clients E-mail face to face or if they have a homedir I put the password in a text file and chown as root | Sep 22 00:54 |
| schestowitz | one last option is PGP, but many people don't have it and don't understand its purpose | Sep 22 00:55 |
| schestowitz | If you're: | Sep 22 00:55 |
| schestowitz | 1) email provide or | Sep 22 00:55 |
| schestowitz | 2) ISP | Sep 22 00:55 |
| schestowitz | You get a goldmine of passwords and can cause a lot of trouble if you employ mischivious people | Sep 22 00:55 |
| Kryczek | yeah.. seen it done myself, so many times that it doesnt surprise me anymore | Sep 22 00:55 |
| schestowitz | people think skype is private | Sep 22 00:56 |
| schestowitz | ot their chats there or address books. Welcome to "cloud" | Sep 22 00:56 |
| Kryczek | I'm not saying it's nothing but in my case it was like keys to the company bank account so COME ON! :D | Sep 22 00:56 |
| schestowitz | :- | Sep 22 00:56 |
| Kryczek | schestowitz: and when you ask for security people think you're a freak | Sep 22 00:56 |
| schestowitz | what does "Secure" email even mean | Sep 22 00:56 |
| schestowitz | like https for email? | Sep 22 00:57 |
| Kryczek | like how many times I'm asked my credit card # over the phone | Sep 22 00:57 |
| schestowitz | even if you pgp it, then the envelpe is still visible | Sep 22 00:57 |
| DaemonFC | it is, I'm sure the NSA/FBI, Microsoft, and a few advertising and profiling agencies here and there will take good care of your private data | Sep 22 00:57 |
| Kryczek | I really dont like it and they dont understand my refusal to give it | Sep 22 00:57 |
| schestowitz | it's a crap medium | Sep 22 00:57 |
| schestowitz | not sure why it's still around ans widely used at all | Sep 22 00:57 |
| schestowitz | passing people their passwords all the time | Sep 22 00:57 |
| Kryczek | 2 weeks ago I was in China and I couldnt do anything else | Sep 22 00:57 |
| Kryczek | was on the phone with Air France who, I was surprised, hadnt stored my credit card # which I had given them already | Sep 22 00:58 |
| Kryczek | good I guess? | Sep 22 00:58 |
| Kryczek | anyway, guy explains me that their system is secure | Sep 22 00:58 |
| Kryczek | and I'm like DUDE I'M IN A HOTEL IN CHINA | Sep 22 00:58 |
| schestowitz | feels secure? | Sep 22 00:58 |
| schestowitz | Or secure? | Sep 22 00:58 |
| schestowitz | The airport feels secure | Sep 22 00:58 |
| schestowitz | Like a bus station | Sep 22 00:59 |
| Kryczek | had to ask him to take my frequent flyer number | Sep 22 00:59 |
| schestowitz | They grope people by the cock, so you're supposed to feel safer | Sep 22 00:59 |
| schestowitz | To me, it's actually scary | Sep 22 00:59 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] moving !trisquel dagda to the long awaited !triskel(still no CD for that :/) | Sep 22 00:59 | |
| schestowitz | You have to wonder where they land that plane | Sep 22 00:59 |
| schestowitz | Gitmo maybe,.. | Sep 22 00:59 |
| Kryczek | and told him my credit card number using a transposition with the frequent flyer number | Sep 22 00:59 |
| Kryczek | guy thought I was crazy | Sep 22 00:59 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz That water bottle could be a bomb.....just toss it in that trash can and be on your way. :) After all, if a bomb goes off in the airport, the government still technically kept that plane safe. | Sep 22 01:00 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Sep 22 01:00 |
| schestowitz | A friend of mine got trolled by some guy at the hotel | Sep 22 01:00 |
| schestowitz | He photographed him for a twitter rant | Sep 22 01:00 |
| Kryczek | haha also he told me not to worry, even if i was in a hotel in china | Sep 22 01:00 |
| Kryczek | "they dont speak french" | Sep 22 01:00 |
| Kryczek | ?! | Sep 22 01:00 |
| schestowitz | After the clark asked him his postcode for booking of a room | Sep 22 01:00 |
| Kryczek | (I was speaking French to him, sorry for not pointing that out) | Sep 22 01:01 |
| schestowitz | And he was displeased, even though it's standard procedure, in case he causes damage | Sep 22 01:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] SPOKE: Invigorating the youth vote http://ur1.ca/5538s #ONelxn !ONpoli #kit-wat #WaterlooRegion | Sep 22 01:01 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Invigorating the youth vote (Spoke Online) .::. Size~: 12.1 KB | Sep 22 01:01 |
| schestowitz | polyglots today here.. | Sep 22 01:01 |
| schestowitz | Pardon my mandafrench | Sep 22 01:02 |
| Kryczek | :) | Sep 22 01:02 |
| schestowitz | double-dutch | Sep 22 01:02 |
| schestowitz | Encrypted Swedish-> Finnish | Sep 22 01:02 |
| Kryczek | hehe yeah Finnish would be pretty secure | Sep 22 01:02 |
| Kryczek | like Tom Clancy put it, the only languages it can be associated with is Magyar and Alien | Sep 22 01:03 |
| schestowitz | od.. http://identi.ca/notice/84213166 | Sep 22 01:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Taha (tahtouhg)'s status on Wednesday, 21-Sep-11 23:46:52 UTC - Identi.ca: blocked login, can't see the pic. | Sep 22 01:03 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: might there be a login required for your screenshots to some people? | Sep 22 01:04 |
| Kryczek | schestowitz: what happened with the clerk asking for postcode? | Sep 22 01:04 |
| Kryczek | ah sorry, just trolled | Sep 22 01:04 |
| Kryczek | depending on the country the clerk could be in his right too | Sep 22 01:05 |
| DaemonFC | not if you use that link | Sep 22 01:05 |
| DaemonFC | the only one that can see everything I upload is me | Sep 22 01:05 |
| Kryczek | in France if you take a pic of me I can demand that you delete it | Sep 22 01:05 |
| Kryczek | (the of course you could always undelete it because cameras dont wipe files) | Sep 22 01:05 |
| Kryczek | s/the/then | Sep 22 01:06 |
| Kryczek | so to be sure I would have to melt your camera with thermite :P | Sep 22 01:06 |
| schestowitz | Kryczek: he took his card and left in anger | Sep 22 01:08 |
| schestowitz | Kryczek: don't say thermite | Sep 22 01:09 |
| schestowitz | msb might pay attention | Sep 22 01:09 |
| DaemonFC | everything in Seamonkey seems to work pretty well | Sep 22 01:10 |
| DaemonFC | even after all these years | Sep 22 01:10 |
| DaemonFC | the most visible change of course is the Gecko engine from Firefox 7 | Sep 22 01:11 |
| DaemonFC | it's fast | Sep 22 01:11 |
| Kryczek | schestowitz: why? he's a thermite fetishist? :) | Sep 22 01:11 |
| DaemonFC | and Seamonkey inherits all the standards support, HTML 5, memory use improvements | Sep 22 01:11 |
| DaemonFC | and the layout engine uses xrender | Sep 22 01:12 |
| DaemonFC | to speed up page drawing | Sep 22 01:12 |
| schestowitz | geckos are slow | Sep 22 01:12 |
| schestowitz | Kryczek: :-) | Sep 22 01:12 |
| msb | This link was posted here earlier today: http://www.projectcensored.org/top-stories/articles/14-increased-tensions-with-unresolved-911-issues/ | Sep 22 01:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: 14. Increased Tensions with Unresolved 9/11 Issues | Project Censored .::. Size~: 273.91 KB | Sep 22 01:12 |
| msb | And here's the relevant section of my website, for anyone who's interested. I've given up on arguing the facts of 9/11 in this forum. http://cosmicpenguin.com/911/ | Sep 22 01:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The 9-11 Attacks Were Perpetrated By Agents Of The U.S. And Israeli Governments .::. Size~: 20.65 KB | Sep 22 01:14 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] RT @bramalab 27.09 na konferencji współorganizowanej przez Bramę z FWiOO, z prelekcją wystąpi Wicepremier Waldemar Pawlak ur1.ca/5531m | Sep 22 01:14 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz you had to wake him up | Sep 22 01:14 |
| schestowitz | http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/Google-Wallet-launches/?kc=rss | Sep 22 01:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Google Wallet launches with Visa, AmEx, and Discover - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 57.63 KB | Sep 22 01:15 |
| schestowitz | blech viaa.. | Sep 22 01:15 |
| DaemonFC | msb: you are wrong you know | Sep 22 01:15 |
| DaemonFC | it was the Underwear Gnomes | Sep 22 01:15 |
| DaemonFC | working with the Jews | Sep 22 01:15 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Sep 22 01:16 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Agreed, but doesn't preclude the fact that words carry perceptual power. I assumed Identi.ca's initial choice indicated egalitarianism | Sep 22 01:16 | |
| msb | DaemonFC: Nah, I sit around in my underwear all day, and I am a Jew. I would know. | Sep 22 01:16 |
| DaemonFC | prove it | Sep 22 01:16 |
| schestowitz | noooo :-) | Sep 22 01:16 |
| DaemonFC | take a picture of yourself in your underwear and there better be Jew horns on your head | Sep 22 01:17 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC is gay, so.. | Sep 22 01:17 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Sep 22 01:17 |
| Kryczek | DaemonFC: hahahaha | Sep 22 01:17 |
| Kryczek | 1. Destroy the WTC | Sep 22 01:17 |
| msb | Fortunately for you guys I don't have a webcam set up. | Sep 22 01:17 |
| Kryczek | 2. ??? | Sep 22 01:17 |
| Kryczek | 3. Profit! | Sep 22 01:17 |
| schestowitz | who? China? | Sep 22 01:17 |
| I agree, it wants me to log in and won't work with chromium browser or konqueror unless I use the pathetic and disjointed "mobile" interface -> (04:36:58 PM) schestowitz: I hate new twitter | Sep 22 01:17 | |
| schestowitz | twitter: hat one crashes it IIRC | Sep 22 01:18 |
| Kryczek | we have the twitter bird in the channel? | Sep 22 01:19 |
| Kryczek | with the underpants gnomes it's getting quite artistic in here | Sep 22 01:19 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] voted for "Naturally "subscribing" is condusive to conversation among peers" | Sep 22 01:19 | |
| DaemonFC | Jabba ate it, now he's taking a major download | Sep 22 01:19 |
| *jono has quit (Remote host closed the connection) | Sep 22 01:19 | |
| Kryczek | DaemonFC: maybe it's trying to communicate by making Konqueror produce a core dump | Sep 22 01:20 |
| DaemonFC | Konqueror is a terrible browser | Sep 22 01:20 |
| Kryczek | lies! | Sep 22 01:20 |
| *schestowitz lies down | Sep 22 01:21 | |
| Kryczek | :> | Sep 22 01:21 |
| DaemonFC | it misrenders a lot of sites | Sep 22 01:21 |
| Kryczek | those sites are wrong! | Sep 22 01:21 |
| DaemonFC | why should twitter be different? | Sep 22 01:21 |
| schestowitz | some work ok | Sep 22 01:21 |
| schestowitz | linkedin is weird in it for some sections | Sep 22 01:21 |
| schestowitz | I launchd FF for twitter, maybe a few otherw | Sep 22 01:21 |
| schestowitz | if I do some webform thing I worry a bit when working with konq, sometimes chicked out for fear the form will be rejected based on browser | Sep 22 01:22 |
| schestowitz | it would be nice if all sites worked alright | Sep 22 01:22 |
| Kryczek | what, user agent check after you complete the form? | Sep 22 01:23 |
| DaemonFC | http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/19/kidnapt.jpg/ | Sep 22 01:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: ImageShack® - Online Photo and Video Hosting .::. Size~: 37.32 KB | Sep 22 01:23 |
| Kryczek | schestowitz: I love sites that tell me to go download and install IE | Sep 22 01:23 |
| Kryczek | when I'm on Linux... | Sep 22 01:23 |
| schestowitz | I saw something similar last month, maybe the same | Sep 22 01:23 |
| Kryczek | the Virgin Megastore at least used to be like that | Sep 22 01:24 |
| Kryczek | when most websites would just warn you that they might not completely work woth your browser | Sep 22 01:24 |
| schestowitz | go plank at their store | Sep 22 01:24 |
| DaemonFC | did you try setting your user agent to IE on Windows? | Sep 22 01:24 |
| Kryczek | Virgin was like "NO, you MUST INSTALL IE!" | Sep 22 01:24 |
| Kryczek | DaemonFC: of course I Did :) | Sep 22 01:25 |
| msb | Just one more. This is hilarious, as well as very informative. You might want to download it and play it at 80% speed with mplayer so you can understand it better and freezeframe it if necessary. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuC_4mGTs98 | Sep 22 01:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: 9/11: A Conspiracy Theory - YouTube .::. Size~: 95.56 KB | Sep 22 01:25 |
| schestowitz | "I'm a Windows VIRGIN" | Sep 22 01:25 |
| Kryczek | but it's ridiculous | Sep 22 01:25 |
| DaemonFC | http://img541.imageshack.us/img541/8034/photo0145m.jpg http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/9388/photo0146x.jpg | Sep 22 01:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting image/jpeg type | Sep 22 01:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting image/jpeg type | Sep 22 01:25 |
| Kryczek | oh and it did work perfectly with konqueror | Sep 22 01:25 |
| Microsoft offered up some Virtual Box VMs "for Windows, OSX and Linux" supposedly for web designers to check their work in Winblows. I'm sure they are each a trojan horse. -> (04:58:07 PM) DaemonFC: I wouldn't trust Windows much outside a virtual machine | Sep 22 01:25 | |
| schestowitz | would toy trust a hypervisorrunnin Winows with your system resources? | Sep 22 01:26 |
| schestowitz | V is ORACLE SCORACLE | Sep 22 01:26 |
| schestowitz | VB | Sep 22 01:26 |
| Kryczek | you're talking about Hyper V? | Sep 22 01:27 |
| Kryczek | aka virtualization done the wrong way? :P | Sep 22 01:27 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] I'm really sorry that she's done that. It was pretty important to all of us at StatusNet that our labour of love get the features of 1.0.0. | Sep 22 01:27 | |
| *Kryczek <3 Xen | Sep 22 01:27 | |
| DaemonFC | Xen is owned by a Microsoft partner | Sep 22 01:28 |
| Kryczek | Citrix yeah | Sep 22 01:28 |
| Kryczek | but I use the opensource version and it's plenty sufficient | Sep 22 01:28 |
| Kryczek | I'll try KVM when they reach good performance | Sep 22 01:29 |
| DaemonFC | http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/2953/20110131001156.jpg | Sep 22 01:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting image/jpeg type | Sep 22 01:29 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] MySQL going open core; shouldn't have signed those contributor agreements: http://wmk.me/oU08qb | Sep 22 01:29 | |
| DaemonFC | I don't know why I took a picture of that | Sep 22 01:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Open Core MySQL - Simon Says... .::. Size~: 74.9 KB | Sep 22 01:29 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Sep 22 01:29 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: himme | Sep 22 01:29 |
| schestowitz | gimme | Sep 22 01:30 |
| schestowitz | brb | Sep 22 01:30 |
| schestowitz | brushing teeth/ | Sep 22 01:30 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, I had a craving for doughnuts and black coffee one morning | Sep 22 01:30 |
| DaemonFC | so I did it :) | Sep 22 01:31 |
| DaemonFC | I'm dangerous! | Sep 22 01:31 |
| DaemonFC | my blood sugar was probably higher than normal | Sep 22 01:31 |
| DaemonFC | but I live on the edge, sometimes, in moderation | Sep 22 01:31 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Sep 22 01:31 |
| Microsoft's VMs had to be gotten with some kind of script, run as root. | Sep 22 01:31 | |
| Kryczek | lol | Sep 22 01:32 |
| You might be able to do it yourself from the images but the whole thing seemed to be set up as a trap. | Sep 22 01:32 | |
| Kryczek | DaemonFC: what does it say on your mug under Homeland Security? :) | Sep 22 01:32 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Troy Davis gets a stay of execution http://identi.ca/url/53832021 | Sep 22 01:32 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Text of last-minute appeal for Troy Davis, scheduled to be executed this hour in Georgia. – Boing Boing .::. Size~: 22.6 KB | Sep 22 01:32 |
| DaemonFC | Missouri Chapter | Sep 22 01:32 |
| Kryczek | sorry, I dont get it | Sep 22 01:33 |
| DaemonFC | making fun of them being a backwards state | Sep 22 01:33 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Sep 22 01:33 |
| coffee mug, in Missouri? | Sep 22 01:33 | |
| Kryczek | DaemonFC: aaaaaaaaaaah, at first I thought the mug was making fun of DHS | Sep 22 01:33 |
| DaemonFC | no, they do that by themselves | Sep 22 01:34 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Sep 22 01:34 |
| Kryczek | haha | Sep 22 01:34 |
| Kryczek | true... | Sep 22 01:34 |
| Does the Department of Fatherland Insecurity have a don't ask don't tell policy? | Sep 22 01:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #collapse - Nervous Breakdown? 21 Signs That Something Big Is About To Happen In The Financial World - http://ur1.ca/553sg | Sep 22 01:34 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Nervous Breakdown? 21 Signs That Something Big Is About To Happen In The Financial World .::. Size~: 145.35 KB | Sep 22 01:34 |
| schestowitz | HTC announced an mid-range Android smartphone for Verizon Wireless that appears to be marketed at women. The "Rhyme" is equipped with a 1GHz processor, 768MB of RAM, 4GB of flash, five-megapixel and VGA cameras, plus accessories including a free docking station, headphones, and a "Charm" device that flashes a light to indicate an incoming call. | Sep 22 01:34 |
| Kryczek | o_O | Sep 22 01:35 |
| Kryczek | wtf is a charm device? | Sep 22 01:35 |
| sounds like a nice phone | Sep 22 01:35 | |
| Kryczek | a dildo? | Sep 22 01:35 |
| schestowitz | http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/HP-WebOS-layoffs-begin/?kc=rss | Sep 22 01:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: HP lays off 500 at WebOS division -- PC group next? - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 58.72 KB | Sep 22 01:35 |
| schestowitz | Kryczek: dillo | Sep 22 01:35 |
| all phones with vibrators double as a dildo | Sep 22 01:35 | |
| schestowitz | I never thought of it | Sep 22 01:36 |
| schestowitz | and I guess thaqt explains why so many ;phones inthe UK are reported to have falls down the toilet | Sep 22 01:36 |
| yeah, WebOS layoffs. I put up a link to that today. | Sep 22 01:36 | |
| schestowitz | *fallen | Sep 22 01:36 |
| buzz, flush | Sep 22 01:37 | |
| ick | Sep 22 01:37 | |
| Kryczek | schestowitz: oh wow I didnt know about dillo.org (a light graphical web browser) always good to know... other than that I dont know what you meant :D | Sep 22 01:37 |
| schestowitz | it's a sh*t phone anyway | Sep 22 01:37 |
| schestowitz | I guess they're done with it | Sep 22 01:37 |
| schestowitz | They have phone insurance | Sep 22 01:37 |
| schestowitz | in the loo it has sh**y reception | Sep 22 01:37 |
| dillo is a good little browser | Sep 22 01:37 | |
| schestowitz | dillo has extensions | Sep 22 01:37 |
| I think I once saw a version with tabs | Sep 22 01:38 | |
| Kryczek | why the UK? Are British women #1 dildo users or something? :) | Sep 22 01:38 |
| schestowitz | I know the stats here | Sep 22 01:38 |
| Kryczek | you're in the UK? | Sep 22 01:38 |
| Kryczek | (rhetorical question leading to "hah me too!") | Sep 22 01:39 |
| Kryczek | where exactly? :) | Sep 22 01:39 |
| schestowitz | my program is craassing, tiem for bed | Sep 22 01:39 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] Has #Facebook done a #MySpace? I've never seen people so upset as by this update. | Sep 22 01:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #collapse - 8 Reasons Why The Great Depression Is The Best Case Scenario - http://goo.gl/NUoJt | Sep 22 01:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Bipartisan coalition agrees: if the gov't wants to track your location, it should get a warrant! https://eff.org/r.2Cu (via @ConPro) | Sep 22 01:39 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: 8 Reasons Why The Great Depression Is The Best Case Scenario .::. Size~: 133.33 KB | Sep 22 01:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Warrantless Location Tracking Threatens Fourth Amendment: TCP Releases Report and Recommendations .::. Size~: 13.08 KB | Sep 22 01:39 |
| DaemonFC | says something about their men I guess | Sep 22 01:39 |
| DaemonFC | sorry schestowitz :P | Sep 22 01:39 |
| schestowitz | busy with magazines | Sep 22 01:39 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: you bat me to it | Sep 22 01:40 |
| sebsebseb | Kryczek: he lives in Manchester | Sep 22 01:40 |
| Kryczek | aaah, thanks | Sep 22 01:40 |
| everyone needs a hand every now and then | Sep 22 01:40 | |
| schestowitz | I was gonna make that sort of reamrk but absteained from it | Sep 22 01:40 |
| the conversation went in the toilet a while back | Sep 22 01:40 | |
| DaemonFC | is there really a Big Ass Phone VirtualBox image? | Sep 22 01:40 |
| There are android qemu images. I made one work two years ago. | Sep 22 01:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #collapse #bankingsystem #nwo - Saudi king heralds dawn of new world order | COLLAPSENET-http://goo.gl/FlM9C | Sep 22 01:42 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Sep 22 01:42 |
| I hoped it would do flash for YouTube but things worked out better than that. | Sep 22 01:43 | |
| DaemonFC | Did Richard Stallman give you the copy of GNASH that actually worked? | Sep 22 01:44 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Sep 22 01:44 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #collapse - Godfrey Bloom: #Euro Fail for Christmas - YouTube http://youtu.be/uy3ICLYM3DY | Sep 22 01:44 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Godfrey Bloom: Euro Fail for Christmas - YouTube .::. Size~: 102.18 KB | Sep 22 01:44 |
| gnash works out of the box on squeeze | Sep 22 01:45 | |
| DaemonFC | by works you mean..... | Sep 22 01:45 |
| Youtube plays well with ice weasel | Sep 22 01:45 | |
| DaemonFC | that's new | Sep 22 01:45 |
| DaemonFC | it used to not even do that | Sep 22 01:45 |
| I thought it was nifty | Sep 22 01:45 | |
| it's happened before | Sep 22 01:46 | |
| DaemonFC | lightspark apparently works for Youtube too | Sep 22 01:46 |
| but working out of the box with a stable version is cool | Sep 22 01:46 | |
| amarsh04 | I sometimes have to kill -HUP $(pidof gtk-gnash) as there can be zombie gnash processes lying around | Sep 22 01:46 |
| I use clive | Sep 22 01:46 | |
| *amarsh04 uses youtube-dl | Sep 22 01:46 | |
| the killer feature gnash has is "start in pause" | Sep 22 01:46 | |
| If you set that, you don't have to run around killing the results. | Sep 22 01:47 | |
| and you don't end up looking at awful advertisements | Sep 22 01:47 | |
| Kryczek | amarsh04: just what I was looking for, awesome! Thanks :) | Sep 22 01:47 |
| Kryczek | my netbook has a hard time playing youtube videos | Sep 22 01:48 |
| Kryczek | but plays the same FLVs with mplayer without effort | Sep 22 01:48 |
| clive is debian, other distros use youtube-dl | Sep 22 01:48 | |
| amarsh04 | I found mplayer2 to use less cpu than vlc for some videos | Sep 22 01:48 |
| clive also works with lots of other sites | Sep 22 01:48 | |
| *DaemonFC looks at the Vista8 pictures and wonders why he can't have a cool operating system that puts a watermark on the desktop threatening to have him arrested for "unauthorized use" | Sep 22 01:48 | |
| Kryczek | clive - video extraction utility for YouTube, Google Video and others | Sep 22 01:48 |
| Kryczek | I see | Sep 22 01:48 |
| amarsh04 | youtube-dl and clive are both in debian | Sep 22 01:48 |
| DaemonFC | I can definitely see why people are eating this up :) | Sep 22 01:48 |
| Kryczek | twitter: sorry I didnt understand that's what clive was at first | Sep 22 01:49 |
| Kryczek | (in the conversation) | Sep 22 01:49 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @eff: Bipartisan coalition agrees: if the gov't wants to track your location, it should get a warrant! https://eff.org/r.2Cu (via @ConPro) | Sep 22 01:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @evan Maybe things that jar & interrupt the flow of conversation ("Poll" and "Question") could go in the right hand sidebar? /cc @MarjoleinK | Sep 22 01:49 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Warrantless Location Tracking Threatens Fourth Amendment: TCP Releases Report and Recommendations .::. Size~: 13.08 KB | Sep 22 01:49 |
| clive --hosts | Sep 22 01:49 | |
| youtube.com default|flv_240p|flv_360p|flv_480p|mp4_360p|mp4_720p|mp4_1080p|mp4_3072p | Sep 22 01:49 | |
| video.google. default|mp4 | Sep 22 01:49 | |
| sevenload.com default | Sep 22 01:49 | |
| break.com default | Sep 22 01:49 | |
| liveleak.com default | Sep 22 01:49 | |
| gaskrank.tv default | Sep 22 01:49 | |
| dailymotion.com default|hq|hd | Sep 22 01:49 | |
| vimeo.com default|hd | Sep 22 01:49 | |
| spiegel.de default|vp6_928|vp6_576|vp6_64|h264_1400 | Sep 22 01:49 | |
| golem.de default|ipod|high | Sep 22 01:49 | |
| clipfish.de default | Sep 22 01:49 | |
| funnyhub.com default | Sep 22 01:49 | |
| buzzhumor.com default | Sep 22 01:49 | |
| Kryczek | nice | Sep 22 01:50 |
| amarsh04 | ok, I'll remember clive for dailymotion.com and vimeo.com | Sep 22 01:50 |
| amarsh04 | back later | Sep 22 01:50 |
| ah ha, youtube-dl is in debian now. thanks | Sep 22 01:50 | |
| Kryczek | minitube - Native YouTube client | Sep 22 01:51 |
| Kryczek | that looks cool too | Sep 22 01:51 |
| I can give you one of those, but only if you promise to pass on the source code so others can remove the feature -> ***DaemonFC looks at the Vista8 pictures and wonders why he can't have a cool operating system that puts a watermark on the desktop threatening to have him arrested for "unauthorized use" | Sep 22 01:51 | |
| cubezzz | operating system bloat... hard to get around it | Sep 22 01:52 |
| Kryczek | vista8 ? | Sep 22 01:53 |
| does that happen once a month around patch Tuesday and make you feel cranky and irritable ? | Sep 22 01:54 | |
| Kryczek | use Linux for the peace of mind | Sep 22 01:55 |
| Kryczek | new study suggests Linux users have less heart attacks | Sep 22 01:55 |
| I tried out cheese on two computers the other day and it did not work on either. luvcview did. | Sep 22 01:55 | |
| sharing is good for your health | Sep 22 01:55 | |
| Kryczek | hehe yeah | Sep 22 01:56 |
| Kryczek | opensource your gf please | Sep 22 01:56 |
| my wife is always open. if you ask the wrong question, she might answer it with a slap. | Sep 22 01:57 | |
| Kryczek | :) | Sep 22 01:58 |
| msb | Sharing IS good for your health, especially when you can give away what you have, to help people, and still have it yourself. | Sep 22 01:58 |
| Kryczek | I'll make a talking doll and bruteforce her :P | Sep 22 01:58 |
| *sebsebseb has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) | Sep 22 01:59 | |
| Sharing builds trust and reduces stress. that's good for you | Sep 22 01:59 | |
| hmmm, did I share this link. http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/reviews/2010/11/worst-gadget-ever-ars-reviews-a-99-android-tablet.ars | Sep 22 01:59 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Worst gadget ever? Ars reviews a $99 Android tablet .::. Size~: 40.51 KB | Sep 22 01:59 |
| it's wrong. | Sep 22 01:59 | |
| the worst gadgets run WinCE. | Sep 22 02:00 | |
| *Kryczek winces | Sep 22 02:00 | |
| cubezzz | I just don't like tiny screens | Sep 22 02:00 |
| Microsoft pushed a bunch of "netbooks" with WinCE just a year ago. | Sep 22 02:00 | |
| Kryczek | seriously? lol. | Sep 22 02:00 |
| Yes. | Sep 22 02:00 | |
| ran hype stories in second rate newspapers | Sep 22 02:01 | |
| I saw them on CVS shelves myself | Sep 22 02:01 | |
| Kryczek | twitter: I hear they're working on taking the best of Windows CE, Me and NT | Sep 22 02:01 |
| Kryczek | so that they can brick your phone with Windows CEMeNT | Sep 22 02:01 |
| that was Zune | Sep 22 02:01 | |
| no one carried the phone | Sep 22 02:02 | |
| Kryczek | twitter: the new Windows Phone OS comes from Zune! :D | Sep 22 02:02 |
| it's all the same garbage | Sep 22 02:02 | |
| Kryczek | at least the Metro part | Sep 22 02:02 |
| Kryczek | except they still havent figured out how to make it portable hah | Sep 22 02:03 |
| Kryczek | (given the recent news about their issues with ARM) | Sep 22 02:03 |
| *username (~username@67.233.252.120) has joined #techrights | Sep 22 02:03 | |
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| Every new iteration of Vista, Microsoft promises it will run on ARM and be everything gnu/linux was ten years ago. | Sep 22 02:03 | |
| It's pathetic | Sep 22 02:03 | |
| *username is now known as Chips_B_Malroy | Sep 22 02:03 | |
| Kryczek | 01:52 < Kryczek> vista8 ? | Sep 22 02:04 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | but windows 8 Arm will not have any programs when it releases | Sep 22 02:04 |
| Kryczek | twitter: you say Vista instead of Windows? | Sep 22 02:04 |
| *msb has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | Sep 22 02:04 | |
| yes, I say Vista because they all use Vista's digital hand cuffs after Vista | Sep 22 02:05 | |
| Kryczek | ah | Sep 22 02:05 |
| and because Vista was such a huge failure | Sep 22 02:05 | |
| Failure, Failure 7, Failure 8 ... | Sep 22 02:05 | |
| Chips_B_Malroy | unless, W8ARM could use the net programs for WP7, which run on a CE kernel. Even if they could port those, they would most likely not scale well to a tablet from a phone. | Sep 22 02:06 |
| cubezzz | I don't even bother following windows :) | Sep 22 02:06 |
| *DaemonFC (~chatzilla@adsl-99-37-244-50.dsl.sbndin.sbcglobal.net) has joined #techrights | Sep 22 02:06 | |
| Kryczek | cubezzz: high five | Sep 22 02:06 |
| cubezzz | unless it's a reload for a customer | Sep 22 02:06 |
| Kryczek | I gave up on that 10 years ago | Sep 22 02:06 |
| I thought they were dumping .NET | Sep 22 02:06 | |
| cubezzz | well win2k was the last one for me... | Sep 22 02:06 |
| Win98 | Sep 22 02:06 | |
| Kryczek | XP for me but yeah, 2k was the last one I liked | Sep 22 02:06 |
| I might have an image someplace that would be funny in a VM. | Sep 22 02:07 | |
| Kryczek | well actuall y the only one | Sep 22 02:07 |
| cubezzz | yes, I should have been quicker to switch... I admit it | Sep 22 02:07 |
| Kryczek | hated 9x and NT | Sep 22 02:07 |
| cubezzz | 95 was awful | Sep 22 02:07 |
| DaemonFC | I used XP, but I set everything to the Windows 2000 look | Sep 22 02:07 |
| Kryczek | cubezzz: dont get me started on it :D | Sep 22 02:07 |
| cubezzz | no, I won't start it it either... it's best forgotten | Sep 22 02:07 |
| I'm surrounded by XP relic code at work. | Sep 22 02:07 | |
| Chips_B_Malroy | but windows pain lives on for most of us in the form of people bringing us their malware infected machines and wanting it fixed. I only offer to install Linux anymore, rather show them how to install Linux. | Sep 22 02:08 |
| Kryczek | I was a teenager and my (uncool) parents said I should use the computer only on Saturday afternoons | Sep 22 02:08 |
| I'll be happy when those vendors give up and dump Windows. | Sep 22 02:08 | |
| Kryczek | which is also when they would go shopping | Sep 22 02:08 |
| cubezzz | I'm actually reverting back to my old Unix ways | Sep 22 02:08 |
| Kryczek | so the computer had a BIOS password | Sep 22 02:08 |
| *msb (~msb@c-98-248-40-248.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined #techrights | Sep 22 02:08 | |
| Kryczek | they would turn it on, enter the password and leave | Sep 22 02:08 |
| cubezzz | using historical Unix, any version I can find that has source code | Sep 22 02:08 |
| cubezzz runs SGI on his cell phone? | Sep 22 02:09 | |
| Kryczek | and 15mins after they left Windows 95 would fscking BSOD | Sep 22 02:09 |
| cubezzz | don't own a cell phone | Sep 22 02:09 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Roy, if you are around, please a request that you consider banning Michel in the comments, aka snit prescott computer guy michael glasser GALLOPINGINSANITY.COM a complete anti-Linux pro-ms troll | Sep 22 02:10 |
| that guy is a pest that comes and goes. I have to wonder if it's just another nym for trolls past. | Sep 22 02:11 | |
| Chips_B_Malroy | his link is the correct one | Sep 22 02:12 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | and his points | Sep 22 02:12 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | he offers nothing usefull, only trolls | Sep 22 02:12 |
| right | Sep 22 02:12 | |
| but Roy never bans anyone. | Sep 22 02:13 | |
| Chips_B_Malroy | wastes peoples time, trys to create doubt (FUD) | Sep 22 02:13 |
| he's using the comments to google juice his nasty little site | Sep 22 02:13 | |
| Chips_B_Malroy | probably | Sep 22 02:13 |
| as have previous trolls | Sep 22 02:13 | |
| Kryczek | there's nothing on gallopinginsanity.com | Sep 22 02:14 |
| I think they are basically all the same one or two people | Sep 22 02:14 | |
| Microsoft is too cheap to hire more dedicated staff to mess with Techrights. | Sep 22 02:14 | |
| Kryczek | (and it's hosted on Apache haha :D ) | Sep 22 02:14 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | well, too cheap to hire anyone good, ms is | Sep 22 02:15 |
| Kryczek | I think like Apple they dont need to hire anyone, the brainwashed fanboys come spontaneously | Sep 22 02:16 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | but then, they do not have to be good, only they have to create some doubt | Sep 22 02:16 |
| cubezzz | twitter, he used to do the 24 hour ban thing | Sep 22 02:16 |
| Microsoft might not have to hire anyone but they do. | Sep 22 02:16 | |
| msb | Wow, a weird thing just happened to me! My entire screen started strobing, and KDE crashed back to KDM. I have some kind of intermittent hardware problem. | Sep 22 02:16 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Not talking about a ban in IRC, just the comments | Sep 22 02:16 |
| cubezzz | oh ok | Sep 22 02:17 |
| Kryczek | msb: stop spreading FUD ;p | Sep 22 02:17 |
| he is disruptive | Sep 22 02:17 | |
| it's hard to have a conversation in comments when the trolls bomb them out | Sep 22 02:17 | |
| msb | I _said_ it's a hardware problem! 8^) | Sep 22 02:17 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | yep | Sep 22 02:17 |
| cubezzz | I'm on some forums that are carefully moderated | Sep 22 02:18 |
| cubezzz | I never see trolls | Sep 22 02:18 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | well, its only a request | Sep 22 02:19 |
| Kryczek | just host the forum in China or Iran, it will be carefully moderated | Sep 22 02:19 |
| cubezzz | you get on some of the mainframe IBM forums and it's very polite | Sep 22 02:20 |
| KDE 4 has not been entirely stable for me. In fact Squeeze on ACPI has been less stable than what I'm used to. | Sep 22 02:20 | |
| KDE 3 had almost a decade of stable development and worked very well. | Sep 22 02:21 | |
| ACPI is poison no matter what. | Sep 22 02:21 | |
| I wonder if it's like Android and has the ability to take over the entire computer. | Sep 22 02:22 | |
| msb | I use KDE3. KDE4 seems insane to me in various ways. | Sep 22 02:23 |
| Kryczek | maybe not ACPI but the new IPMI with RealVNC yeah | Sep 22 02:23 |
| it makes me want to go the lemote route | Sep 22 02:23 | |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Will the Android Army with the linux kernel find its way on desktop computers soon? Will Google/Motorola start making laptops with Android/Chrome and directly threaten Windows? | Sep 22 02:24 |
| Kryczek | why? what's special about lemote computers? | Sep 22 02:25 |
| msb | http://www.trinitydesktop.org/ -- Maintaining and improving KDE3! | Sep 22 02:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Trinity Desktop Environment .::. Size~: 7.37 KB | Sep 22 02:25 |
| free from the firmware up, it's what RMS moved to -> what's special about lemote computers? | Sep 22 02:25 | |
| I'd have to figure out how to shoe horn the thing into an older laptop case with a nicer monitor.... don't have the time. | Sep 22 02:26 | |
| cubezzz | no KDE 4 for me | Sep 22 02:26 |
| cubezzz | xfce and KDE 3.5.10 | Sep 22 02:26 |
| their little desktop computers have equal appeal and I occasionally dream of building a little cluster for myself. | Sep 22 02:27 | |
| cubezzz | probably use xfce more from now on | Sep 22 02:27 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | LXDE is not too bad | Sep 22 02:27 |
| E16 still works nicely | Sep 22 02:27 | |
| the pagers are good, but composite does not work with newer intel graphics. | Sep 22 02:27 | |
| Chips_B_Malroy | sometimes I slip back into KDE4x | Sep 22 02:27 |
| cubezzz | icewm is good too | Sep 22 02:28 |
| cubezzz | good for very old systems | Sep 22 02:28 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | icewm great on low end | Sep 22 02:28 |
| E17 is working nicely in debian testing, and does composite excellently, but does not do multiple monitors as well as E16. | Sep 22 02:28 | |
| Chips_B_Malroy | I need to take another look at trinity | Sep 22 02:29 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | last time their site was down with server failure | Sep 22 02:29 |
| http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=trinity+kde3+debian | Sep 22 02:30 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: trinity kde3 debian - Google Search .::. Size~: 98.86 KB | Sep 22 02:30 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | maybe they have compiled it for the newer gcc? | Sep 22 02:30 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | so it will run kde4 apps | Sep 22 02:30 |
| DaemonFC | Trinity is pointless | Sep 22 02:32 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | why so? | Sep 22 02:32 |
| DaemonFC | there's like, one guy working on it | Sep 22 02:32 |
| DaemonFC | there's no release timeline | Sep 22 02:33 |
| that does not make it pointless | Sep 22 02:33 | |
| DaemonFC | they don't even really support current versions of Ubuntu | Sep 22 02:33 |
| just under resourced. | Sep 22 02:33 | |
| DaemonFC | it's full of bugs | Sep 22 02:33 |
| msb | It already has some releases. | Sep 22 02:33 |
| DaemonFC | it doesn't really save much in the way of resources | Sep 22 02:33 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | one good guy can change a lot of things. Gandi, RMS, etc | Sep 22 02:33 |
| could be and it's supposed to work with squeeze | Sep 22 02:33 | |
| DaemonFC | well there are plenty of light desktops that run well on older computers are well maintained | Sep 22 02:34 |
| DaemonFC | and have a predictable release cycle | Sep 22 02:34 |
| msb | I don't think the goal is to save resources. It's to avoid KDE4 and have the good features of KDE3, such as up to 20 desktops and a good desktop switcher (pager) applet. | Sep 22 02:35 |
| msb | And compatibility with ALSA audio, instead of insisting on Phonon. | Sep 22 02:35 |
| DaemonFC | well, I think it's pointless, but then again, it's not my time being wasted I guess | Sep 22 02:36 |
| DaemonFC | KDE 4 does NOT need Pulseaudio | Sep 22 02:36 |
| DaemonFC | it will use it if it's there | Sep 22 02:36 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Sep 22 02:36 |
| *tessier_ is now known as tessier | Sep 22 02:36 | |
| msb | I think Phonon and Pulseaudio are two different things. | Sep 22 02:36 |
| DaemonFC | oh, I read that wrong | Sep 22 02:36 |
| DaemonFC | you don't have to use Phonon either | Sep 22 02:37 |
| DaemonFC | applications can still use a sound system directly | Sep 22 02:37 |
| Kryczek | speaking of pulseaudio, does anybody know of an equivalent of alsamixer for it? | Sep 22 02:37 |
| DaemonFC | but the ones that came with KDE must use it | Sep 22 02:37 |
| msb | I don't think there's any way to get the 20-desktops and good switcher functionality in KDE4. | Sep 22 02:38 |
| msb | Many people have tried to do it and failed. | Sep 22 02:38 |
| DaemonFC | I use pavucontrol in xfce | Sep 22 02:38 |
| DaemonFC | xfce's mixer isn't Pulseaudio aware | Sep 22 02:38 |
| Kryczek | msb: what prevents it? Guy who coded multiple desktop support counts on his fingers? | Sep 22 02:39 |
| DaemonFC | I don't believe there is such a limit | Sep 22 02:39 |
| DaemonFC | but who uses 20 desktops? | Sep 22 02:39 |
| msb | The desktop-page is fscked. You can't read the desktop names in its buttons. | Sep 22 02:39 |
| Kryczek | DaemonFC: I was hoping CLI but thanks, didnt know about pavucontrol | Sep 22 02:40 |
| DaemonFC | you can still adjust volume settings directly with alsamixer | Sep 22 02:40 |
| msb | I use 20 desktops. Very handy for different areas of my work. I can leave the requisite programs set up in each one. | Sep 22 02:40 |
| msb | The desktop-pager is fscked. You can't read the desktop names in its buttons. | Sep 22 02:40 |
| Kryczek | same for me | Sep 22 02:40 |
| Kryczek | haven't reached 20 but when working on many different projects a tthe same time | Sep 22 02:41 |
| Kryczek | I easily reach 10 | Sep 22 02:41 |
| I use at least 10 of 18 desktops every day. -> (06:45:48 PM) DaemonFC: but who uses 20 desktops? | Sep 22 02:41 | |
| msb | KDE4 also has screwy ways of adjusting things, instead of just right-clicking as the standard. | Sep 22 02:41 |
| E16 separates screens from desktops, so I keep at least three desktops with 3x3 screens running all the time. | Sep 22 02:42 | |
| Chips_B_Malroy | I like the consistant interface of KDE3. KDE4 in some ways seemed too vista like in design, too many clicks just to shut it down. In some ways, 95 to XP, Windows UI changed very little as was one of its better features. Now Vista, 7. and 8, all MS does is change the UI and wallpaper. | Sep 22 02:42 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] this movie was the start of my education regarding various European countries. What am I ripping? | Sep 22 02:42 | |
| Vista ripped off KDE4 | Sep 22 02:43 | |
| not the other way around | Sep 22 02:43 | |
| Chips_B_Malroy | yes, but that was not my point | Sep 22 02:43 |
| Windows 7 also borrowed from KDE 3 | Sep 22 02:43 | |
| Chips_B_Malroy | change for change sakes only, will only piss users off | Sep 22 02:44 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | just look at windows from vista on | Sep 22 02:44 |
| E16 is just any click on the desktop and "log out" | Sep 22 02:44 | |
| it's been the same way for 10 years or so, depending on who's menus you use | Sep 22 02:44 | |
| Kryczek | 02:41 < twitter> Vista ripped off KDE4 | Sep 22 02:44 |
| Kryczek | twitter: do you have a source perhaps? :) | Sep 22 02:45 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | my comment is more about windows than kde4 | Sep 22 02:45 |
| there was a nice video of two guys running around showing people KDE 4 and telling them it was Vista | Sep 22 02:45 | |
| Kryczek | no | Sep 22 02:45 |
| Kryczek | they tell them it's Seven | Sep 22 02:45 |
| I don't have my finger on it. I also believe that KDE 4 launched before Vista | Sep 22 02:46 | |
| Kryczek | well unless it's 2 different videos | Sep 22 02:46 |
| let me look it up | Sep 22 02:46 | |
| Chips_B_Malroy | there is a learning curve when the user interface changes, Vista had one. Will windowsbehindthe8ball have one? | Sep 22 02:46 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | *windows8ball | Sep 22 02:47 |
| msb | I have it on good authority that the UI and features of KDE4 were strongly influenced by "focus groups" populated with average people off the street, i.e., Windows users. This was done by Novell, which financed much of KDE4 development. Of course Novell had secret agreements with Microsoft. | Sep 22 02:48 |
| Kryczek | twitter: http://www.zdnet.com.au/is-it-windows-7-or-kde-4-339294810.htm ? | Sep 22 02:48 |
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| I'm checking that out, but I seem to be losing my marbles about release dates from 3 years ago. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE | Sep 22 02:49 | |
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| 2008 was KDE 4 | Sep 22 02:49 | |
| Kryczek | maybe Microsoft copied on early code / early talks | Sep 22 02:49 |
| probably | Sep 22 02:50 | |
| Kryczek | I just thought you had conclusive proof :) | Sep 22 02:50 |
| Vista was launched one year earlier http://slashdot.org/~twitter/journal/177855 | Sep 22 02:50 | |
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| Kryczek | which I could have shoven in the face of MS fanboys the next time one says KDE4 has the Vista menu | Sep 22 02:50 |
| look up raptor http://liquidat.wordpress.com/2006/09/30/kde-4-menu-development/ | Sep 22 02:51 | |
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| can't say who came up with it first, the concepts are general | Sep 22 02:52 | |
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| Kryczek | "The main goals of Raptor are clear: to provide a high quality menu everyone will like. " | Sep 22 02:54 |
| Kryczek | hah | Sep 22 02:54 |
| Kryczek | I, for one, hate it | Sep 22 02:54 |
| I don't really know it. | Sep 22 02:54 | |
| Kryczek | the KDE3 menu is perfect | Sep 22 02:54 |
| I was using E16 in 2005 and I'm using it today. | Sep 22 02:55 | |
| I used to have a kicker running. | Sep 22 02:55 | |
| gnome-panel is not as nice or as clean. | Sep 22 02:55 | |
| so now, I do without | Sep 22 02:55 | |
| Kryczek | Raptor adds bells and whistles that require more mouse mouvements, more focusing, etc... for no benefit | Sep 22 02:55 |
| Kryczek | ah and WORST OF ALL | Sep 22 02:56 |
| Kryczek | it has a scrollbar! | Sep 22 02:56 |
| That's the way I feel about a lot of kde 4. all of the auto scaling takes time and effort | Sep 22 02:56 | |
| but, it works | Sep 22 02:56 | |
| Kryczek | so I have to grab the scrollbar to go to the end of one menu etc... instead of it just resizing to fit - and there's plenty of room left on my screen | Sep 22 02:57 |
| I don't see a reasonable replacement for most of the KDE 4 applications | Sep 22 02:57 | |
| gn | Sep 22 02:58 | |
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| Kryczek | gn2 | Sep 22 02:59 |
| msb | Out here in the Colonies we soldier on! | Sep 22 02:59 |
| msb | If anybody is still here.... about 45 minutes ago people were talking about banning Snit&Co from some kind of comments involving IRC. Where are these comments? | Sep 22 03:04 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Yes. http://www.freebyron.org/index.php/Main_Page !freebyron | Sep 22 03:06 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] That's the thing about polls, they can be bent to the pollster's agenda. Feel free to make your own. (sorry @MarjoleinK ) | Sep 22 03:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] !rmsgnulinux, a !faif gnu/!linux-libre distro may be starting back up, join #rmsgnulinux on freenode, we need ideas | Sep 22 03:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] and help, of course. help is nice. | Sep 22 03:24 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] D-FENS ..... what am I ripping? | Sep 22 04:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] I'm inclined to skip making or participating in polls b/c polls take up 2 pull screens on netbook & every time there's a reply it recycles | Sep 22 04:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @toteboardbrad yeah, the update sucks, but the politics are better here. #facebooksucksmore | Sep 22 04:51 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] Well, MacBooks work better than GNU Linux, so maybe i should spend some money on apple products now until free software is better. | Sep 22 05:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] and not in the form of more alcohol...(actually I think I may have read somewhere that alcohol helps, but then worse later) | Sep 22 05:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] The Convent of the Pure - neat book by Sara M. Harvey: http://is.gd/dUGqgU #goodread | Sep 22 05:51 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] http://mustardseedmedia.com/podcast << this is the episode list as it should be !Drupal | Sep 22 07:06 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @AJEnglish Al Jazeera English Video: Google under anti-trust scrutiny aje.me/oUF1lb | Sep 22 07:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !listening to @timlouisjazz "Untrue" < cd from Uptown Waterloo Jazz Fest a few years back ... waiting for the new one #smooth #pianoman | Sep 22 07:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[morphium/@morphium] Mein !Tor & !WikiLeaks Urteil, gegen das Berufung eingelegt wurde, zum Nachlesen: http://www.morphium.info/AG_Urteil_WikiLeaks+Tor.pdf | Sep 22 07:21 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Thursday's !InconstantMoon serialization chapter posted: http://ur1.ca/558gg !SelfPub | Sep 22 07:54 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Romania has the second fastest Internet connections in the world http://tinyurl.com/3qy8gfm #romania #internet #speed | Sep 22 07:59 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] No belief in Climate Change: Kitchener Center Candidate weatherman MacDonald @WR_Record debate http://ur1.ca/558ns !ONpoli !ONelxn #kitcen | Sep 22 08:04 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] Also pagination on viewing one's groups doesn't work (all pages just show the same groups as the first page) | Sep 22 08:06 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Reversions: "..the free Chrome extension Facebook Ticker Remover completely does away with the Ticker...? TOS violation? http://ur1.ca/558re | Sep 22 08:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Governments should stay close when engaging open source groups http://tinyurl.com/3gxkg9r #osor #egovt #gnu #foss (via @gijs ) | Sep 22 08:12 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @reiter Proprietary?! RT @micu: @meegoexperts: OpenMobile’s ACL brings over 250,000 !Android apps to !MeeGo http://mge.bz/nK !GNU !Linux | Sep 22 08:26 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Had some time off over the last week for birthday/parents visiting. Back to the grindstone and a pile of email to respond to. Fun fun. | Sep 22 08:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] Yeah, it would be awesome for it to automagically catch up, but i have a sneaking suspicion that we'll just lose these conversations | Sep 22 08:41 | |
| iophk | jono: how was the b-day / software freedom day / 20th anniversary of linux on Saturday? | Sep 22 08:42 |
| jono | iophk, rockin' :-) | Sep 22 08:42 |
| jono | thanks! | Sep 22 08:42 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] do you take your life in your hands by farting while on a duck hunt? also do ducks interpret the fart sound as language? | Sep 22 08:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] bizarre murder plot idea - give a laxative to someone knowing they're going on a hunt, and let their fellow hunters kill them #friendlyfire | Sep 22 08:49 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] "Thanks for waiting. Google+ is open to all! Join now." -> "Google+ is not yet available for Google Apps." | Sep 22 09:01 | |
| schestowitz | Blech | Sep 22 09:01 |
| schestowitz | Googleype | Sep 22 09:01 |
| schestowitz | Sorry, I'm being too cynical | Sep 22 09:02 |
| schestowitz | I guess I don't see why people would blog for Google to help sell Google ads ("content") and lose control of their platform | Sep 22 09:02 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[freemjd/@freemjd] I still don't get it. #SN10 | Sep 22 09:09 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @macno yesterday it's been a bad day #rem | Sep 22 09:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @gera_p: Oct 4th, report to VP Kroes will be presented about EU network by Géant Expert Group (GEG) - http://p.ost.im/p/e283Pm | Sep 22 09:21 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Wolverhampton 'chuggers' threatened with fines http://is.gd/JhKsyv about fucking time, these limpet mines are fucking annoying | Sep 22 09:24 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Kororaa 15 Unleashed http://is.gd/E5R4j5 "The first stable release of Kororaa 15 (codename "Squirt") has been released" | Sep 22 09:29 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Red Hat Business Grows by About 20-30% in One Year http://is.gd/ARsypP | Sep 22 09:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] corps who insist the #patent system is necessary are admitting they're unable to compete on merit, #shareholders take note | Sep 22 09:31 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Cybercrime: is it out of control? http://gu.com/p/3245f solutions: abandon #Windows & educate kids on common PC / internet sense | Sep 22 09:34 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Troy Davis finally executed, US Supreme Court should no longer be viewed legitimate http://identi.ca/url/53835854 | Sep 22 09:36 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Red Hat net jumps 69% http://is.gd/nOowoy <sarcasm>Linux is dying</sarcasm> | Sep 22 09:37 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Review: Linux Mint GNOME 201109 http://is.gd/6IND5d "That basically ended my time with Linux Mint GNOME." | Sep 22 09:42 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Is #Ubuntu falling from grace? http://is.gd/tEclv6 probably, but that's OK. It gives a chance to more diversity, more developers. | Sep 22 09:44 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] dear !identica !support, where in the new interface do I: 1. check my user # (eg for use with the Identi.ca Badge); 2. (re-)connect Twitter? | Sep 22 09:47 | |
| iophk | Ubuntu does need some help. | Sep 22 09:50 |
| iophk | Perhaps removing Mono and Mono-dependent apps | Sep 22 09:50 |
| iophk | and restoring GIMP would help | Sep 22 09:50 |
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| iophk | Mono and mono-boosters are a severe image problem and technical problem for Ubuntu | Sep 22 09:52 |
| iophk | It also breeds internal conflict | Sep 22 09:52 |
| iophk | http://www.fsf.org/news/dont-depend-on-mono | Sep 22 09:52 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Linux desktop: Not pining for the fjords http://is.gd/UpqleE worth reading | Sep 22 09:52 | |
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| iophk | Bug #1 in Ubuntu's Launchpad is that M$ has #1 market share still. Helping to spread M$ products and technology isn't doing anything to help solve that bug. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1 | Sep 22 09:55 |
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| iophk | There are no legitimate reasons to be using Mono-based apps in Ubuntu | Sep 22 09:56 |
| iophk | v | Sep 22 09:56 |
| iophk | http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Mono_Applications | Sep 22 09:56 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] anybody any idea why my dents are visible with the !Identica Badge (http://ur1.ca/559kb), but @bramalab's aren't? Settings seem identical | Sep 22 09:57 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @shot: idzie jesień, spróbujcie swoich sił w turnieju elektrybałtów: http://turniej.wolnelektury.pl | Sep 22 09:59 | |
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| schestowitz | ____/ Homer on Monday 19 Sep 2011 15:23 : \____ | Sep 22 10:03 |
| schestowitz | > Yes, where is the rule written that Linux should only be about this | Sep 22 10:03 |
| schestowitz | > thing called the "desktop"? In fact, where is the rule written that | Sep 22 10:03 |
| schestowitz | > /computing in general/ should only be about the "desktop", and that | Sep 22 10:03 |
| schestowitz | > the "desktop" is even the most significant part of it? | Sep 22 10:03 |
| schestowitz | > | Sep 22 10:03 |
| schestowitz | > Last time I checked, this desktop thing only accounted for some 400 | Sep 22 10:03 |
| schestowitz | > million devices per year, compared to about *8 billion* ARM devices | Sep 22 10:03 |
| schestowitz | > per year, the vast majority of which run Linux. None run Windows or | Sep 22 10:03 |
| schestowitz | > Mac OS X, and given what Microsoft recently confirmed, none of them | Sep 22 10:03 |
| schestowitz | > /will/ run Windows in the foreseeable future either. | Sep 22 10:03 |
| schestowitz | > | Sep 22 10:03 |
| schestowitz | > It's very convenient for Linux detractors to pretend the desktop is | Sep 22 10:03 |
| schestowitz | > the only thing that matters, when they know no competing system has | Sep 22 10:03 |
| schestowitz | > any chance of penetrating Microsoft's criminal monopoly, and ignore | Sep 22 10:03 |
| schestowitz | > the obvious fact that Linux is far more ubiquitous in a much larger | Sep 22 10:04 |
| schestowitz | > part of the industry. | Sep 22 10:04 |
| schestowitz | > | Sep 22 10:04 |
| schestowitz | > Linux benefits, and profits, more companies and consumers than this | Sep 22 10:04 |
| schestowitz | > "desktop" thing ever will, and indeed that seems to be the cause of | Sep 22 10:04 |
| schestowitz | > its detractors' criticism, because all they're really interested in | Sep 22 10:04 |
| schestowitz | > is the accumulation of wealth and power among a handful of ruthless | Sep 22 10:04 |
| schestowitz | > monopolists, and they really hate anything that upsets that balance | Sep 22 10:04 |
| schestowitz | > of power, as it challenges their right-wing, extremist politics. To | Sep 22 10:04 |
| schestowitz | > such people it's important for the Windows "desktop" to be the only | Sep 22 10:04 |
| schestowitz | > thing that matters, because it's the only area of the industry that | Sep 22 10:04 |
| schestowitz | > has been commandeered by a hardware and software duopoly. Meanwhile | Sep 22 10:04 |
| schestowitz | > the rest of us would prefer more choice, better prices and quality, | Sep 22 10:04 |
| schestowitz | > and a return to real innovation, none of which can ever happen with | Sep 22 10:04 |
| schestowitz | > monopolistic tyrants like Microsoft and Intel at the helm. This may | Sep 22 10:04 |
| schestowitz | > account for the meteoric rise in popularity of non-Wintel products, | Sep 22 10:04 |
| schestowitz | > the stagnation of the "PC" industry (culminating in HP, the biggest | Sep 22 10:04 |
| schestowitz | > PC manufacturer, vowing to quit the industry), and Microsoft's last | Sep 22 10:04 |
| schestowitz | > ditch attempt to break into what -hh disparagingly refers to as the | Sep 22 10:04 |
| schestowitz | > "embedded" market. This "embedded" market is actually the future of | Sep 22 10:04 |
| schestowitz | > computing, and it may well be a future /without/ greedy monopolists | Sep 22 10:04 |
| schestowitz | > like Microsoft and Intel. | Sep 22 10:04 |
| schestowitz | > | Sep 22 10:04 |
| schestowitz | > I certainly hope so. | Sep 22 10:04 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/janstedehouder/status/116794775881003008?iid=am-82952056813166810193044197&nid=4+status_timestamp&uid=26603208 | Sep 22 10:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @janstedehouder: @schestowitz Nah, not another 'oh my god, we're loosing no 1 position on Distrowatch'-article ;-) | Sep 22 10:06 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/janstedehouder/status/116794878985375744?iid=am-193306946213166810446777379&nid=4+status_timestamp&uid=26603208 | Sep 22 10:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @janstedehouder: @schestowitz Ubuntu lost the no. 1 position before (remember PCLinuxOS). | Sep 22 10:06 |
| schestowitz | the point is, seems like Ubuntu also makes the news a lot less often now (which I can confirm to be true) | Sep 22 10:07 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/CajunTechie/status/116796735359172608 | Sep 22 10:07 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @CajunTechie: Sad to see #Linux is in such decline. Lol RT @schestowitz: Red Hat net jumps 69% http://t.co/h6N7YhYT <sarcasm>Linux is dying</sarcasm> | Sep 22 10:07 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Sep 22 10:07 |
| iophk | In some ways it seems that many have gone over to Fedora from Ubuntu. | Sep 22 10:07 |
| iophk | Again, I'd blame Mono | Sep 22 10:07 |
| iophk | For a while Fedora did not have Mono. | Sep 22 10:08 |
| schestowitz | Fedora had mono briefly | Sep 22 10:08 |
| schestowitz | Then it removed it | Sep 22 10:08 |
| iophk | Removing Mono helps Fedora's image | Sep 22 10:09 |
| iophk | Some M$ boosters are also pushing Red Hat, which helps Fedora. | Sep 22 10:09 |
| iophk | CentOS is supported by M$ VM | Sep 22 10:09 |
| iophk | http://virtualisationandmanagement.wordpress.com/2011/05/18/centos-now-have-official-support-as-guest-vm-in-hyper-v/ | Sep 22 10:09 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: CentOS now have official support as guest VM in Hyper-V « Virtualisation & Management Blog .::. Size~: 49.77 KB | Sep 22 10:09 |
| iophk | Probably in an attempt to weaken Red Hat's revenue. | Sep 22 10:09 |
| iophk | It doesn't help Ubuntu any that the Mono apps suck rather badly and are (because of Mono) flakey and crash. | Sep 22 10:10 |
| schestowitz | http://arebentisch.wordpress.com/2011/09/21/geheim-cannes-e-g20/ | Sep 22 10:10 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Geheim Cannes e-G20 « Sköne Oke .::. Size~: 36.44 KB | Sep 22 10:10 |
| schestowitz | I heard Microsoft is helping CentOS to weak Red Hat | Sep 22 10:10 |
| schestowitz | But except the above, I was lacking evidence | Sep 22 10:11 |
| schestowitz | Bear in mind that SCO's sandy (who works for MSFT now) did the boosting of CentOS a while ago | Sep 22 10:11 |
| iophk | That would not surprise me. You can probably find a better link that CentOS is not only supported in the VM it is the only Linux supported in the VM. | Sep 22 10:11 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/janstedehouder/status/116801296664764416?iid=am-82952056813166825740417232&nid=4+status_timestamp&uid=26603208 | Sep 22 10:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @janstedehouder: @schestowitz Google Trends seems to agree with you ;-) http://ow.ly/6Bwkz | Sep 22 10:14 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] oh look, Microsoft also has its own /b/ http://blogs.msdn.com/b/ #4chan !memes | Sep 22 10:16 | |
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| iophk | Mono and mono boosters can't be good for the moral of Ubuntu / Canonical and could explain why it has been easier to poach employees lately. | Sep 22 10:16 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] RT @metabradley “Scientists Find a Bacterial Strain That Recycles Newspapers Into Biofuel!” — http://ur1.ca/4zgfa | Sep 22 10:19 | |
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| iophk | Jono's not here right now so we can't ask him directly | Sep 22 10:20 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] !tzag identizens. | Sep 22 10:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Ths bug has 7 years! Come on, !debian, what gives... ur1.ca/559sk readline/editline support in php-cli is very useful and much missed | Sep 22 10:29 | |
| MinceR | iophk: no problem, they'll just poach m$ drones themselves as m$ withers and dies | Sep 22 10:34 |
| MinceR | geekings | Sep 22 10:35 |
| schestowitz | News s so slow today | Sep 22 10:35 |
| iophk | MinceR: it is always a bad idea to bring in M$ drones. Leopards don't change their spots | Sep 22 10:35 |
| schestowitz | Not just for Linux | Sep 22 10:35 |
| schestowitz | I think news in general is dying | Sep 22 10:35 |
| MinceR | iophk: it won't matter by then | Sep 22 10:36 |
| iophk | Hiring them into a new company just brings in the toxicity. | Sep 22 10:36 |
| MinceR | it probably doesn't matter already | Sep 22 10:36 |
| iophk | News papers are about dead | Sep 22 10:36 |
| schestowitz | It turns into PR | Sep 22 10:36 |
| schestowitz | iophk: asking jono about it is reasonable | Sep 22 10:36 |
| schestowitz | But he has to give safe answers | Sep 22 10:36 |
| iophk | of course, he can't go out on a limb in any way shape or form | Sep 22 10:37 |
| iophk | too bad | Sep 22 10:37 |
| schestowitz | Jono tried to bash me in FLOSS Weekly, but I can see where he's coming from and he was pressured to do this by mono boosters | Sep 22 10:37 |
| schestowitz | in the TwiT TV chat for example | Sep 22 10:37 |
| MinceR | translation: he has to say nothing in so many words | Sep 22 10:37 |
| iophk | but Mono *is* an image problem for Ubuntu and that drives / drove away users and potential developers | Sep 22 10:37 |
| schestowitz | iophk: Microsoft offered Jono a job | Sep 22 10:37 |
| schestowitz | Twice | Sep 22 10:37 |
| iophk | Of course, they have to try to take him out | Sep 22 10:38 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft is trying to Borland tactics on Canonical | Sep 22 10:38 |
| iophk | It worked against Borland. | Sep 22 10:38 |
| schestowitz | neutering the rivals | Sep 22 10:38 |
| iophk | M$ is probably also indirectly behind the Mono in Ubuntu | Sep 22 10:38 |
| iophk | Removing the GIMP was a bad idea. | Sep 22 10:39 |
| schestowitz | Many silicon valley companies have illegal agreements re brain drain prevention | Sep 22 10:39 |
| schestowitz | iophk: remember the mono troll who abused the IRC channel? | Sep 22 10:39 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft intern | Sep 22 10:39 |
| iophk | "intern" | Sep 22 10:39 |
| schestowitz | Muktware found out | Sep 22 10:39 |
| schestowitz | And they told me | Sep 22 10:40 |
| schestowitz | there was another one here | Sep 22 10:40 |
| schestowitz | Chris Collier | Sep 22 10:40 |
| schestowitz | Trolled this IRC channel | Sep 22 10:40 |
| schestowitz | Provoiked for 'dirt' | Sep 22 10:40 |
| schestowitz | To then blog about how dangerous and radical we are | Sep 22 10:40 |
| schestowitz | He turned out to have worked for Microsoft | Sep 22 10:40 |
| schestowitz | And promoting Mono | Sep 22 10:40 |
| schestowitz | Sam vargehese and other mono critics get drfamed | Sep 22 10:42 |
| schestowitz | They need to be "made rotten" for their opinions not to be listened too | Sep 22 10:42 |
| schestowitz | *to | Sep 22 10:42 |
| schestowitz | RMS has had that done to him for decades, but mono boosters take it to another lavel | Sep 22 10:43 |
| iophk | yes they do, and moderators are ignorant or naive about the mono boosters | Sep 22 10:43 |
| schestowitz | Tryng to paint him a sexist and pedophile... because of his take on Mono among other things | Sep 22 10:43 |
| schestowitz | One TR contributor hides his name more aggressively than before because he saw what mono boosters do | Sep 22 10:46 |
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| schestowitz | Criticising mono is like advocating legalisation of pot now, I guess | Sep 22 10:46 |
| iophk | The boosters come out of the woodwork. They are not many but vicious | Sep 22 10:47 |
| schestowitz | [10:46] <schestowitz> Criticising mono is like advocating legalisation of pot now, I guess << you fell offline | Sep 22 10:47 |
| schestowitz | I remember reading that Carl Sagan used to do that anonymously | Sep 22 10:47 |
| schestowitz | iophk: they are fewer now | Sep 22 10:47 |
| schestowitz | mono is getting obscure now | Sep 22 10:47 |
| schestowitz | We win | Sep 22 10:47 |
| iophk | We win, but it still needs to be removed from the main Ubuntu CD. | Sep 22 10:47 |
| iophk | The CDs are sometimes the only software remote locations get. | Sep 22 10:48 |
| schestowitz | YThey tried to populrise MS development | Sep 22 10:48 |
| schestowitz | And they lost the battle for mind | Sep 22 10:48 |
| schestowitz | *minds | Sep 22 10:48 |
| schestowitz | Despite help from 1051 Media and other Microsoft boosters (the Redmond one boosting them ) | Sep 22 10:48 |
| schestowitz | iophk: ubuntu declines anyway | Sep 22 10:49 |
| schestowitz | Not that I want it to, I use it | Sep 22 10:49 |
| iophk | Yes, but IMHO it is in part due to Mono. | Sep 22 10:49 |
| schestowitz | But if Fedora or some KDE distro takes over, mono falls by the wayside | Sep 22 10:49 |
| iophk | I sometimes use Ubuntu, too. | Sep 22 10:49 |
| schestowitz | Back in 2009 Ubuntu was sunstoppable | Sep 22 10:49 |
| iophk | Before Mono. | Sep 22 10:51 |
| iophk | M$ spreads trouble. | Sep 22 10:51 |
| schestowitz | AFAIKTentacles | Sep 22 10:53 |
| schestowitz | Hmm.. how did this input get here? | Sep 22 10:54 |
| schestowitz | X is acting in an annoying way | Sep 22 10:54 |
| schestowitz | when a new windows emerges over SSH, it takes focus | Sep 22 10:54 |
| schestowitz | Even if it's on another workspace (I set it up this way in KDE) | Sep 22 10:55 |
| schestowitz | I tried changing focus policy in systemsettings, but there's no way around it | Sep 22 10:55 |
| schestowitz | So sometimes I type into IRC nly to fing out it feeds into a window in another desktop... very annoying | Sep 22 10:55 |
| iophk | Set the focus so that it follows under the mouse, | Sep 22 10:56 |
| schestowitz | I did | Sep 22 10:56 |
| schestowitz | Even strictly | Sep 22 10:56 |
| schestowitz | it has a slider for priority too | Sep 22 10:56 |
| schestowitz | But none overcomes this trouble | Sep 22 10:56 |
| schestowitz | So I started working on these experiments on a separate box | Sep 22 10:56 |
| iophk | No Mono by default | Sep 22 10:59 |
| iophk | http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/110/ | Sep 22 10:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Idea #110: "No Mono by default in Ubuntu" - Ubuntu brainstorm .::. Size~: 154.11 KB | Sep 22 10:59 |
| schestowitz | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OTkyNQ | Sep 22 11:07 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: [Phoronix] Wayland Reference Code Being Re-Licensed .::. Size~: 16.3 KB | Sep 22 11:07 |
| schestowitz | "Instead of the LGPLv2, Kristian Høgsberg is now looking at moving the "wayland-demos" code from the GPL to the MIT license." | Sep 22 11:07 |
| schestowitz | What do you make of it? | Sep 22 11:07 |
| schestowitz | Ubuntu will use this in then near future (maybe years) | Sep 22 11:08 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] it's working soooo much better after that dev sprint here as well. luvin' the kontact love! | Sep 22 11:09 | |
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| iophk | I don't know enough about Wayland to answer | Sep 22 11:11 |
| iophk | There are shortcomings in X to be sure but I don't know if or how Wayland addresses them. | Sep 22 11:12 |
| schestowitz | It is supposed to be lighter and more suitable for mobile devices for instance. | Sep 22 11:13 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I blocked all those ID's earlier on. | Sep 22 11:16 | |
| iophk | http://wayland.freedesktop.org/faq.html | Sep 22 11:16 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] I recreated Vim's DarkBlue correctly for Eclipse, almost perfect http://identi.ca/url/53836698 !java | Sep 22 11:18 | |
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| schestowitz | Why did Brian add this photo all of a sudden? it wasn't there before. http://www.itworld.com/mobile-wireless/204973/more-partisanship-free-software-leadership | Sep 22 11:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: More partisanship from free software leadership | ITworld .::. Size~: 136.24 KB | Sep 22 11:19 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Eclipse needs an easier way to turn all bold and italic syntax coloring off, this is the only way http://identi.ca/url/53836707 !java | Sep 22 11:19 | |
| schestowitz | At least it wasn't an anti-FSF magnet in the comments | Sep 22 11:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: How can I disable the use of bold fonts when editing code in Eclipse? - Stack Overflow .::. Size~: 32.74 KB | Sep 22 11:19 |
| schestowitz | AFAICT | Sep 22 11:20 |
| iophk | The FSF is taking some heat these days | Sep 22 11:21 |
| iophk | from M$ apologists and their hangers on | Sep 22 11:22 |
| schestowitz | Yeah | Sep 22 11:22 |
| schestowitz | But.. | Sep 22 11:22 |
| schestowitz | Any more these days than before/ | Sep 22 11:22 |
| schestowitz | Remember the attacks on it in 2009 | Sep 22 11:22 |
| schestowitz | From Mono trolls and some abrasive people in GNOME | Sep 22 11:22 |
| schestowitz | Last year the FSF didn't take much flack | Sep 22 11:22 |
| iophk | Yes but there are fewer news publications now than then | Sep 22 11:22 |
| schestowitz | 7 Sins campaign also gave them flack | Sep 22 11:22 |
| schestowitz | Then Peter Brown left | Sep 22 11:23 |
| iophk | Because it was spot on | Sep 22 11:23 |
| schestowitz | This year, and I don't hear much from the FSF anymore | Sep 22 11:23 |
| schestowitz | Is Bradley still in there or is it all Conservancy | Sep 22 11:23 |
| schestowitz | Moglen seems to have gone into business, so we hear not much from him anymore | Sep 22 11:23 |
| iophk | http://ebb.org/bkuhn/blog/ | Sep 22 11:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Blog - Bradley M. Kuhn ( Brad ) ( bkuhn ) .::. Size~: 1009.49 KB | Sep 22 11:24 |
| schestowitz | I think he sort of parted w/ SFLC, to a degree | Sep 22 11:24 |
| iophk | Moglen was a good voice. | Sep 22 11:24 |
| schestowitz | I'm not even too sure what the Conservancy is supposed to achieve | Sep 22 11:24 |
| schestowitz | I guess it's a way for him to get some clients without depending on SFLC and FSF, which he's still involved with | Sep 22 11:24 |
| schestowitz | And I think that Moglen has his own business | Sep 22 11:25 |
| iophk | Bradley is no longer at the SFLC he's at the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_Freedom_Conservancyy now | Sep 22 11:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Error processing the URL: HTTP/1.0 404 Not Found | Sep 22 11:25 |
| schestowitz | IIRC he got back into more teaching | Sep 22 11:26 |
| schestowitz | About 3 years ag | Sep 22 11:26 |
| schestowitz | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eben_Moglen | Sep 22 11:26 |
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| schestowitz | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eben_Moglen | Sep 22 11:26 |
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| schestowitz | But it takes ages to load | Sep 22 11:27 |
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| schestowitz | http://wiki.twit.tv/wiki/FLOSS_Weekly_91 | Sep 22 11:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: FLOSS Weekly 91 - The Official TWiT Wiki .::. Size~: 14.82 KB | Sep 22 11:30 |
| schestowitz | "This page has been accessed 1,475 times." | Sep 22 11:30 |
| schestowitz | Maybe TWIT is overrated | Sep 22 11:30 |
| schestowitz | Anyhow, tonight we record a new episode | Sep 22 11:31 |
| iophk | New Twit episode? | Sep 22 11:32 |
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| schestowitz | No | Sep 22 11:32 |
| schestowitz | TechBytes | Sep 22 11:33 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] As soon as !identicurse fixes the native repeat bug, caused by !sn 1.0, I'd like to see it pushed into !Fedora 15 main repo. Anyone against? | Sep 22 11:33 | |
| schestowitz | Tim's work schedules is not helpful | Sep 22 11:33 |
| schestowitz | He works 10 days in a row | Sep 22 11:33 |
| schestowitz | Than 4 days off | Sep 22 11:33 |
| schestowitz | So we can hardly record more than once a fortnight, unless we're really pushing it | Sep 22 11:33 |
| schestowitz | For me--I work from home at times of my convenience (all jobs), so recording would not be an issue | Sep 22 11:34 |
| schestowitz | iophk: actually, did you see a site I launched the other day? http://scifitness.co.uk/ | Sep 22 11:34 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I suppose there's no point repeating posts sent to the #identica group, cos everyone should be a member anyway :) | Sep 22 11:34 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: » SCI Fitness .::. Size~: 12.88 KB | Sep 22 11:34 |
| schestowitz | This one was Peter's idea.. I don't think I'll be actively involved except on the technical side, like the site part | Sep 22 11:35 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Has !gwibber got native redenting now, @andyc? That's an improvement if so | Sep 22 11:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !identicurse makes me post more (because it's so comfortable to use) Only time will tell if that's a god thing (for my readers) :) | Sep 22 11:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] It's defintely not a God thing, but you knew what I meant anyway... | Sep 22 11:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] #TSA humiliates Black woman, demands to pat down her Afro http://identi.ca/url/53836879 | Sep 22 11:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Judge rules part of Patriot Act unconstitutional http://identi.ca/url/53836884 | Sep 22 11:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] How Quickly We Forget: Google's Competitors Falsely Claim Google Dominates Because It Was 'First' http://identi.ca/url/53836886 | Sep 22 11:41 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] NYPD used obscure, 19th-century “anti-mask” law to arrest Anonymous Wall St. protesters http://identi.ca/url/53836891 | Sep 22 11:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Patent Attorney Breaks Down Impact of the America Invents Act http://identi.ca/url/53836900 | Sep 22 11:43 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] #fuckthepope That is all. | Sep 22 11:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] I'm looking for info on large Polish companies that deployed/use !FLOSS/OpenOffice/LibreOffice in their operations, any info? !linux !fwioo | Sep 22 11:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] Good idea! The info is there, so why not use it now that it seems the expectation of a @-mention is gone. | Sep 22 11:56 | |
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| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/fabsh | Sep 22 12:04 |
| schestowitz | :/ | Sep 22 12:04 |
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| schestowitz | Fab seems to have defected to Google+ | Sep 22 12:04 |
| schestowitz | And trashes identica in public | Sep 22 12:04 |
| schestowitz | At least identica respects our privacy | Sep 22 12:05 |
| MinceR | lame | Sep 22 12:08 |
| schestowitz | I guess it means that next year I'll be the most prolific user in Twitter's main microblog platform/network | Sep 22 12:10 |
| schestowitz | Why would people choose to help Google's services? I don't get it.. | Sep 22 12:10 |
| schestowitz | Google hardly even talks to clients | Sep 22 12:10 |
| schestowitz | In ident.ca you can talk to the management and it responds | Sep 22 12:11 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[freemjd/@freemjd] #StatusNet is user agent sniffing? Seriously? In 2011? I have this cool trick using tables and a file named spacer.gif; can I have a job? | Sep 22 12:11 | |
| schestowitz | :-) | Sep 22 12:12 |
| schestowitz | user agnt sniffing | Sep 22 12:12 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[freemjd/@freemjd] To make the most of your monitor on identi.ca, install chrispederick.com/work/user-agent-switcher & pretend to be an iPhone. Much better. | Sep 22 12:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] there is a switch at the bottom of the screen that does it, too. Patches welcome on that user-agent thing btw. | Sep 22 12:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] nice! | Sep 22 12:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Two street thugs with badges charged with killing homless man for fun http://identi.ca/url/53837177 | Sep 22 12:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] .@evan thanks for the new #identica - definitely a step in the right direction. Looking forward to "Connections" getting reinstated. | Sep 22 12:21 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] In Kibo days, he was limited to usenet. Now he listens to the entire universe for the term "andyc" and when he finds it, promptly comments. | Sep 22 12:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Kibo_%28Usenet%29 | Sep 22 12:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Great news (for Google). They now accept unpaid 'content'/info producers to sell ads/profiles via "+". It's free to contribute to G+. Free! | Sep 22 12:24 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Error processing the URL: HTTP/1.1 403 Forbidden | Sep 22 12:24 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] I agree with @rms about G+. it's just like FB, but this one sells the data to a company not in Microsoft's pocket. It's still proprietary. | Sep 22 12:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] I want to make a deal. I will stop the other things I need to do today and make stream mode optional, AND make tree mode on convos work. | Sep 22 12:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] IN RETURN, you will dial it down a few notches. And you'll stop trying to make people miserable here. | Sep 22 12:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] "Dowodem na to, że szkoła o. Rydzyka uczy samodzielnego myślenia i weryfikowania informacji, jest moja obecność w PiS" - cytat tygodnia | Sep 22 12:31 | |
| schestowitz | jamie_love : @pranesh_prakash At this point, isn't Assange's problem a legalese problem? | Sep 22 12:31 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/pranesh_prakash/status/116834086445776896 | Sep 22 12:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @pranesh_prakash: @jamie_love Hehe. True that. | Sep 22 12:31 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/pranesh_prakash/status/116832544716099584 | Sep 22 12:32 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @pranesh_prakash: Julian Assange's statement on his book being secretly published by Canongate is weak. Too much legalese. http://t.co/wJHiq6Vk | Sep 22 12:32 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Sep 22 12:32 |
| schestowitz | Oh: http://www.itworld.com/it-managementstrategy/204579/trouble-high-seas-mysql | Sep 22 12:34 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Error processing the URL: HTTP/1.1 503 Service Unavailable | Sep 22 12:34 |
| schestowitz | Varnish cache server | Sep 22 12:34 |
| schestowitz | They use it at IDG now | Sep 22 12:34 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @haloefekti ♻ @RDavidMacNeil I believe there is something out there watching us. Unfortunately, it’s the government. –Woody Allen | Sep 22 12:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] MacWorld Expo in #Beijing should be called the #iPet Expo. never seen so much junk to get for you #theSteve phone and tablet #AsSeenOnTV | Sep 22 12:39 | |
| schestowitz | See the comments here: http://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2011-09-21-003-41-OS-DT | Sep 22 12:42 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] I will make stream-only mode work, and I will make convo trees optional. You will be nicer, and stop bugging people about using @. | Sep 22 12:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Anonymous declara sábado "Dia de Vingança" e promete ataques em massa http://goo.gl/Rlbpx | Sep 22 12:43 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: TeK > Notícias > Internet > Anonymous declara sábado "Dia de Vingança" e promete ataques em massa .::. Size~: 45.55 KB | Sep 22 12:43 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Tablet for People Who Type Properly Runs #Linux http://is.gd/TsIt7h | Sep 22 12:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #wordcamp - Para amigos do #WordPress http://goo.gl/OigpD | Sep 22 12:46 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Asus Slider tablet ships, combining Android 3.2 with slide-out keyboard - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 58.26 KB | Sep 22 12:46 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] Mooncake make up a good landfill !OnlyInChina #China Feast of prosperity results in thousands of uneaten/unsold mooncakes, every year! | Sep 22 12:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @fkarlitschek Do you want to try ownCloud before installation? We have a demo website: http://demo.owncloud.org #kde #ownCloud | Sep 22 12:49 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] I like the new #pandora interface ! | Sep 22 12:59 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] an oldie, but goodie - http://geekandpoke.typepad.com/geekandpoke/2009/12/from-hype-to-hype.html | Sep 22 13:04 | |
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| *ChanServ gives channel operator status to _Goblin | Sep 22 13:06 | |
| schestowitz | Hi _Goblin | Sep 22 13:06 |
| _Goblin | Hello mate | Sep 22 13:06 |
| _Goblin | still up for recording later? | Sep 22 13:06 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/carlopiana/status/116842474818908160 | Sep 22 13:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @carlopiana: @schestowitz that could be a very nice laptop replacement for s/body (if it had any video out plugs for presentations). | Sep 22 13:06 |
| schestowitz | video out seems like a niche feature | Sep 22 13:06 |
| MinceR | what device is that? | Sep 22 13:07 |
| schestowitz | http://is.gd/TsIt7h | Sep 22 13:07 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Asus Slider tablet ships, combining Android 3.2 with slide-out keyboard - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 58.26 KB | Sep 22 13:07 |
| MinceR | ic | Sep 22 13:11 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] apparently after yesterday's updates I have no sound on my HDA Intel soundcard in !aptosid. wtf. | Sep 22 13:11 | |
| MinceR | interesting stuff | Sep 22 13:11 |
| MinceR | i wonder if android 3.2 will be free software | Sep 22 13:14 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Guardian throws wine in face of Australian reporter when asked questions about WikiLeaks http://t.co/iXwtUD4u | Sep 22 13:16 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: Not enough people pressure Google | Sep 22 13:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Sep 22 13:16 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: in some Android see I see apologists of going closed source | Sep 22 13:16 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: Android broadens to an audience that doesn't even know what FOSS is | Sep 22 13:16 |
| schestowitz | Google can exploit this ingorance | Sep 22 13:17 |
| iophk | Many don't know that Android uses Linux | Sep 22 13:17 |
| iophk | It doesn't help that many Android distros are partially closed. | Sep 22 13:17 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Lib Dems say they want to scrap the Digital Economy Act http://is.gd/iaJzKA #deact #uk | Sep 22 13:18 | |
| iophk | And use closed apps. | Sep 22 13:18 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/carlopiana/status/116847219298148352 | Sep 22 13:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @carlopiana: @schestowitz not quite. My DSLR camera has got it ;-) If they added a KB they should have laptop users as a target. | Sep 22 13:19 |
| schestowitz | iophk: and DRM.. and TiVoisation | Sep 22 13:19 |
| schestowitz | Famously Motorola | Sep 22 13:19 |
| schestowitz | Which now Google runs | Sep 22 13:19 |
| schestowitz | Ironically | Sep 22 13:20 |
| schestowitz | !google motorola lock boot android | Sep 22 13:20 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Motorola Eases Up on Locked Bootloader Stance, Plans ... - Droid Life | http://www.droid-life.com/2011/04/26/motorola-eases-up-on-locked-bootloader-stance-plans-to-unlock-portfolio-in-2011/ | Sep 22 13:20 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Motorola employee confirms locked bootloaders ... - Android Central | http://www.androidcentral.com/moto-employee-confirms-locked-bootloaders-and-bad-attitude | Sep 22 13:20 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Confirmed: Motorola Droid 3 Has Locked Bootloader | http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/07/07/confirmed-motorola-droid-3-has-locked-bootloader/ | Sep 22 13:20 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Motorola: Locked Bootloaders Stay, You Can Go Elsewhere | http://phandroid.com/2011/01/19/motorola-locked-bootloaders-stay-you-can-go-elsewhere/ | Sep 22 13:20 |
| schestowitz | too many googledrones with their gmail and gplus and whatever are afraid of scrutinising Google for change in some areas | Sep 22 13:20 |
| schestowitz | Groklaw too never criticises Google for anything | Sep 22 13:21 |
| schestowitz | Very white-and-black | Sep 22 13:21 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fsfe/@fsfe] New Fellowship interview with Stefan Kangas on Fripost: http://ur1.ca/55css | Sep 22 13:21 | |
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| schestowitz | But perfectly fine saying good things about iPad | Sep 22 13:21 |
| schestowitz | Although PJ doesn't do that anymore | Sep 22 13:21 |
| schestowitz | Groklaw, IMHO, wasted too much effort defending Apple | Sep 22 13:22 |
| schestowitz | Poor Apple... only about twice the market cap of MSFT and run by patent aggressors | Sep 22 13:22 |
| schestowitz | iophk: http://technorati.com/technology/article/ubuntu-1104-vs-windows-8-developer/ | Sep 22 13:26 |
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| schestowitz | Notice the headline | Sep 22 13:26 |
| schestowitz | Fair comparison, eh?: -) | Sep 22 13:26 |
| schestowitz | On the left we have a Commodore, on the right we have a PowerBook | Sep 22 13:26 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxconfau/@linuxconfau] Keynote announcement: KAREN SANDLER, Executive Director of GNOME, confirmed as first linux.conf.au #LCA2012 keynote http://bit.ly/mVUc8x | Sep 22 13:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @vinzv Facebook and You http://t.co/ZJsE3uaP | Sep 22 13:34 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] @rysiek it also does not work on previous kernels; it works on a different distro; neither pulseaudio nor pure ALSA work. !aptoid !debian | Sep 22 13:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] @rysiek it also does not work on previous kernels; it works on a different distro; neither pulseaudio nor pure ALSA work. !aptosid !debian | Sep 22 13:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Electrical stimulation of brain boosts birth of new cells | KurzweilAI http://is.gd/ocCDtb | Sep 22 13:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Scientists induce hibernation at will: Discovery puts scientists closer to human application http://is.gd/rw4dnk | Sep 22 13:46 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Whoracle disables security for open source projects that use !Java Webstart http://identi.ca/url/53837860 | Sep 22 13:51 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] no idea why, but manually running sudo alsactl init seems to solve the issue. interesting. !aptosid !debian | Sep 22 13:58 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpwmN3d0x_s | Sep 22 13:59 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Good write up of current Assange publishing affair | Crikey http://t.co/QVugF7Ua | Sep 22 14:01 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @gera_p: Vision Horizon2020: data themselves become the infrastructure - #e-Infrastructure #datamanageme http://p.ost.im/p/e2qUx8 | Sep 22 14:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @hofmokl: Dziś 10. urodziny polskiej Wikipedii! Gratulacje i sto lat od całego zespołu Centrum Cyfro http://p.ost.im/p/e24pDt | Sep 22 14:03 | |
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| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AF4etichhwM&NR=1 | Sep 22 14:03 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Amazing" beats with a pen http://is.gd/AoBVZm | Sep 22 14:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Suelette Dreyfus vs. Daniel Pipes on WikiLeaks, Obama as a muslim (video) http://t.co/jz2yp8HL | Sep 22 14:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Links 22/9/2011: Red Hat Net Up 69%, Kororaa 15 Released http://is.gd/ylusK1 | Sep 22 14:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Awesome video about the future of glass - http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=6Cf7IL_eZ38&vq=medium #fb | Sep 22 14:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 22/9/2011: Red Hat Net Up 69%, Kororaa 15 Released http://is.gd/ylusK1 #techrights | Sep 22 14:09 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] New !fellowship interview with @skangas on #Fripost: http://ur1.ca/55css !fs !gnu #Gothenburg #fscons #freedom #email | Sep 22 14:14 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Esc and Ctrl: Jon Ronson investigates #astroturfing - video http://gu.com/p/323hk | Sep 22 14:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] The HDMI out is great, but you have to carry your own lead... | Sep 22 14:32 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] 2011 - The Year of Global Revolt, Rebellion & Revolution - YouTube http://youtu.be/NBi92iwM0FM | Sep 22 14:34 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] Indeed, but one has to assume that enterprise (read: useful) features will in future only be implemented in the closed code. | Sep 22 14:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Big Pharma's Eugenics Past: Special Nightly News Report 1/2 - #bigpharma http://youtu.be/tohB_9ehAD8 http://youtu.be/18am5cLs03k | Sep 22 14:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] Indeed, but one has to assume that enterprise (read: useful) features will in future only be implemented in the closed code. | Sep 22 14:39 | |
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| iophk | What are good links that show that Vista 7 is failing? | Sep 22 14:40 |
| schestowitz | Good comments here: http://how-to.linuxcareer.com/in-depth-howto-on-linux-kernel-configuration | Sep 22 14:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Sep 22 14:41 |
| schestowitz | extrapolating words of RMS | Sep 22 14:41 |
| schestowitz | To make him new enemies | Sep 22 14:41 |
| schestowitz | iophk: what about our wiki page about Vista 7 failing? | Sep 22 14:42 |
| iophk | URL? | Sep 22 14:42 |
| schestowitz | I stopped following it after a while cause it barely made the news anymore | Sep 22 14:42 |
| schestowitz | I stopped following Microsoft much just about a a year ago | Sep 22 14:42 |
| schestowitz | The news about MSFT got scarce | Sep 22 14:42 |
| schestowitz | and then some firms showed that even FB made the news more often than Microsoft | Sep 22 14:42 |
| schestowitz | Which validated what I had felt | Sep 22 14:43 |
| schestowitz | iophk: !google vista 7 reality | Sep 22 14:43 |
| schestowitz | !google vista 7 reality | Sep 22 14:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Vista 7 Reality Log - Techrights | http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Vista_7_Reality_Log | Sep 22 14:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Important Information for Windows Vista and Windows 7 ... - Reality XP | http://www.reality-xp.com/support/knowledgebase/vista.html | Sep 22 14:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Boycott CREATIVE - Windows 7, like Vista, is [in reality ... | http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/2107-63-boycott-creative-windows-vista-reality-unsupported | Sep 22 14:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Windows 7 RC: Reality Check Edition — Apple News, Tips and ... | http://gigaom.com/apple/windows-7-rc-reality-check-edition/ | Sep 22 14:43 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] Is Tux Still the Right Mascot for #Linux? http://www.linuxinsider.com/story/Is-Tux-Still-the-Right-Mascot-for-Linux-73339.html | Sep 22 14:44 | |
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| iophk | thnks | Sep 22 14:44 |
| schestowitz | http://www.net-security.org/secworld.php?id=11652 | Sep 22 14:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: DigiNotar files for bankruptcy .::. Size~: 28.44 KB | Sep 22 14:46 |
| schestowitz | MS Shop | Sep 22 14:46 |
| schestowitz | One for thr bookmarks | Sep 22 14:46 |
| schestowitz | For when the PHB says you can use Windows in a secure env | Sep 22 14:46 |
| schestowitz | Another one is this: | Sep 22 14:46 |
| schestowitz | !google google dumps Windows | Sep 22 14:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Google dumps Windows. But can the rest of us? | ZDNet | http://www.zdnet.com/blog/perlow/google-dumps-windows-but-can-the-rest-of-us/13136 | Sep 22 14:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Google dumps Windows; Is Microsoft's OS headed down a troubled ... | http://www.zdnet.com/blog/btl/google-dumps-windows-is-microsofts-os-headed-down-a-troubled-path/35212 | Sep 22 14:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Google Dumps Microsoft Windows Company-Wide -- Blames ... | http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi%3Ff%3D/g/a/2010/05/31/businessinsider-henry-blodget-google-dumping-microsoft-windows-company-wide-blames-windows-for-china-hacking-attack-2010-5.DTL | Sep 22 14:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Microsoft Spokesman Mocks FT Over Google-Dumps-Windows Story | http://www.businessinsider.com/microsoft-spokesman-mocks-ft-over-google-dumps-windows-story-2010-6 | Sep 22 14:46 |
| iophk | Any good external links that show that Vista 7 is a failure? | Sep 22 14:47 |
| schestowitz | DigiNotar died after it got pwned by Microsoft products | Sep 22 14:47 |
| schestowitz | iophk: let's see what we can use as guage | Sep 22 14:47 |
| schestowitz | !google dell windows 7 enterprise percent | Sep 22 14:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - XP to Windows 7 Migration With Dell Experts | Dell | http://content.dell.com/us/en/enterprise/by-need-it-productivity-deploy-applications-faster-win-7-migration.aspx | Sep 22 14:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Large Enterprise | Dell | http://content.dell.com/us/en/enterprise/large-enterprise.aspx | Sep 22 14:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Windows 7 | Dell | http://content.dell.com/us/en/enterprise/windows-7.aspx | Sep 22 14:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Microsoft Case Study: Windows 7 Enterprise - Harbor Wholesale ... | http://www.microsoft.com/casestudies/Windows-7-Enterprise/Harbor-Wholesale-Grocery/Distributor-Reduces-Corrupted-Computer-Calls-by-99-Percent-with-Operating-System/4000008358 | Sep 22 14:47 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[docufoundation/@docufoundation] TDF Board Elections: Nomination Reminder - http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/announce/msg00063.html !tdf | Sep 22 14:47 | |
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| schestowitz | it's whole SEOd and spammed | Sep 22 14:47 |
| schestowitz | Thar's why I set up indexes to articles | Sep 22 14:47 |
| schestowitz | W-E and the folks have half a billion dollars to burn on gaming search engines | Sep 22 14:48 |
| schestowitz | and bribing bloggers of course | Sep 22 14:48 |
| schestowitz | To seed material and bury the facts | Sep 22 14:48 |
| schestowitz | Last week they seeded "Windows 8" practively | Sep 22 14:48 |
| schestowitz | And Slashdot et al. helped them | Sep 22 14:48 |
| iophk | Right, that's why I'm having trouble finding good links. | Sep 22 14:49 |
| iophk | Google jamming is something they appear to do a lot of. | Sep 22 14:50 |
| schestowitz | jamming is a nicely put way | Sep 22 14:50 |
| schestowitz | googlebombing | Sep 22 14:50 |
| schestowitz | I guess W-E and its minions did a good "perception management" job | Sep 22 14:51 |
| iophk | Too bad they or some similar group runs Slashdot. It used to be a good tech site. | Sep 22 14:51 |
| schestowitz | Brand recontion | Sep 22 14:51 |
| schestowitz | "reputation management" | Sep 22 14:51 |
| schestowitz | "public rellllllations..." | Sep 22 14:52 |
| iophk | If you find any good links about Vista 7 failure, please post. | Sep 22 14:52 |
| schestowitz | searrch engine 'optimisation' | Sep 22 14:52 |
| schestowitz | awareness campaign | Sep 22 14:52 |
| schestowitz | addddd vertising | Sep 22 14:52 |
| schestowitz | incentiiiivising | Sep 22 14:52 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] Red Hat makes a killing http://www.fudzilla.com/home/item/24175-red-hat-makes-a-killing #linux | Sep 22 14:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Over on Diaspora: Piracy posters in bad taste..... https://joindiaspora.com/posts/492530 #piracy #tpb | Sep 22 14:52 | |
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| schestowitz | moist valuable person | Sep 22 14:52 |
| schestowitz | :-) | Sep 22 14:53 |
| schestowitz | Technology Evangelist | Sep 22 14:53 |
| schestowitz | Nice spin on AstroTurf there :-) :-) | Sep 22 14:53 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: what time are we recording | Sep 22 14:53 |
| schestowitz | I'm out at about 6:30 with a mate, maybe back around 8:00 | Sep 22 14:53 |
| iophk | ok | Sep 22 14:54 |
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| schestowitz | I think he came back home, logged in, and wanders around the house ATM | Sep 22 14:54 |
| schestowitz | Hey, ThistleWeb | Sep 22 14:54 |
| ThistleWeb | hey | Sep 22 14:54 |
| schestowitz | What do you think of the new identica? | Sep 22 14:54 |
| schestowitz | In brief | Sep 22 14:54 |
| ThistleWeb | not had that much of a look, but it seems fine | Sep 22 14:55 |
| schestowitz | They worked hard on it for a long time, I don't want to say negative things or peeves on the site | Sep 22 14:55 |
| schestowitz | I think it's fine | Sep 22 14:55 |
| ThistleWeb | looks slick | Sep 22 14:55 |
| schestowitz | I was hoping they'd add more features | Sep 22 14:55 |
| ThistleWeb | function wise, it seems they've changed stuff that is a mess with some clients | Sep 22 14:55 |
| schestowitz | Some things are missing and they are still working on them | Sep 22 14:55 |
| ThistleWeb | but that will be ironed out in time | Sep 22 14:56 |
| schestowitz | They let clients run their own instance with convo in real-time | Sep 22 14:56 |
| ThistleWeb | I use pino or heybuddy, not the site itself | Sep 22 14:56 |
| schestowitz | Seems like a good idea, similar though to Wave, Pulse/Vive, SAP's thing, others... | Sep 22 14:56 |
| ThistleWeb | so I'm not the best judge on the usability of the site layout, on the surface from what I played with, I like it | Sep 22 14:56 |
| ThistleWeb | seems logical and thought out | Sep 22 14:57 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] New web site for The Document Foundation 2011 Board Elections: http://wmk.me/oRsyYs | Sep 22 14:57 | |
| ThistleWeb | there seems to be various polls going on about different changes | Sep 22 14:57 |
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| ThistleWeb | like threaded convos etc | Sep 22 14:58 |
| ThistleWeb | tbh I haven't noticed any difference, but as I said, I use a client | Sep 22 14:58 |
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| ThistleWeb | I did notice turpial no longer authenticates, pino had some @ replies loop which appears to come from 3rd party status,net instances, and heybuddy has a permenant warning "already exists in database", so sometimes you have to hit enter a couple of times to send | Sep 22 14:59 |
| ThistleWeb | it appears some clients dont do the @ name for replies, so you do get them, they just look odd being targetted to you without your nick in the message | Sep 22 15:00 |
| ThistleWeb | it does look very slick, very professional, nice layout, clear, logical, clean | Sep 22 15:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] Is Ubuntu falling from grace? http://tinyurl.com/3rzn4ks Deja vu all over again: http://tinyurl.com/5w7ahus #linux | Sep 22 15:01 | |
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| ThistleWeb | so apart from some tweaks yet to be found and ironed out, I like it | Sep 22 15:01 |
| ThistleWeb | I did feel totally disconnected for the 3 or 4 days it was down though | Sep 22 15:01 |
| schestowitz | cool | Sep 22 15:01 |
| schestowitz | I guess it's a matter of taste | Sep 22 15:01 |
| ThistleWeb | yeah | Sep 22 15:01 |
| schestowitz | I was trying hard to find wats to change appearance | Sep 22 15:01 |
| schestowitz | But it's very inflexible | Sep 22 15:01 |
| schestowitz | Found mobile version | Sep 22 15:02 |
| schestowitz | Reverted back | Sep 22 15:02 |
| ThistleWeb | not tried from mobile, nor tried to change the appearance | Sep 22 15:02 |
| schestowitz | Other than that, glad it's not totally messed up like some other 'clouds' that applied bad changes | Sep 22 15:02 |
| schestowitz | and then lost many of the regulars | Sep 22 15:02 |
| schestowitz | no API breakage from any of my s/w | Sep 22 15:02 |
| ThistleWeb | I kinda wondered if something had gone badly wrong, since the blog post said about a day, and it went into 3+ | Sep 22 15:02 |
| schestowitz | yes | Sep 22 15:03 |
| schestowitz | it explained why throughout | Sep 22 15:03 |
| schestowitz | they had to fix some bugds along the way | Sep 22 15:03 |
| schestowitz | and probably revert back to backups | Sep 22 15:03 |
| schestowitz | but there seems to have been no data loss and orld URLs still work too, so it's backward compat | Sep 22 15:03 |
| ThistleWeb | I'd imagine in a few weeks, all the clients will gradually get updates to reflect the new changes | Sep 22 15:03 |
| schestowitz | yeah | Sep 22 15:03 |
| schestowitz | identicurse had them work in advance | Sep 22 15:04 |
| schestowitz | with statusnet | Sep 22 15:04 |
| schestowitz | my colleagues worked on the code to ensure it's all compatibkle, still | Sep 22 15:04 |
| ThistleWeb | apparently the shortner is kinda long | Sep 22 15:04 |
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| ThistleWeb | I saw a request to use the old shirtner | Sep 22 15:04 |
| ThistleWeb | shortner | Sep 22 15:04 |
| schestowitz | All the plugins and tools like rss, TechrightsBot-tr, chokok still work ok | Sep 22 15:04 |
| schestowitz | the ur1.ca? | Sep 22 15:05 |
| ThistleWeb | a lot of the things I see people complan about really only affect the site itself | Sep 22 15:05 |
| ThistleWeb | yeah | Sep 22 15:05 |
| schestowitz | the timelines look better now, and threads with pictures inline | Sep 22 15:05 |
| schestowitz | ThistleWeb: indeed | Sep 22 15:05 |
| schestowitz | I mostly use the API | Sep 22 15:05 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] I like my chin-up bar ;) https://www.xkcd.com/954/ #fun #xkcd | Sep 22 15:06 | |
| schestowitz | But it's nice to know the site looks OK for those who ppsted over 50kl dents :-) | Sep 22 15:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Kernel prepatch 3.1-rc7 http://lwn.net/Articles/459955/rss | Sep 22 15:06 | |
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| ThistleWeb | I don't think it's right for me to add my weight to the site only stuff, as I don't use it that way | Sep 22 15:06 |
| schestowitz | fab threw a fit | Sep 22 15:06 |
| schestowitz | He's gloatign about going to the big G rather than support ythe startup | Sep 22 15:06 |
| ThistleWeb | G+ suits his needs | Sep 22 15:06 |
| ThistleWeb | nothing wrong with that | Sep 22 15:07 |
| schestowitz | I was talking about the remarks he made | Sep 22 15:07 |
| ThistleWeb | if G+ existed at the time identica started, he'd never had joined identica | Sep 22 15:07 |
| schestowitz | After Evan and others put in a lot of work | Sep 22 15:07 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks: 299 days US banking blockade. 289 days under house arrest http://t.co/Dgs62yM3 | Sep 22 15:07 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Sep 22 15:07 |
| MinceR | he seemed to boost even DumbFuckBook over identica | Sep 22 15:08 |
| ThistleWeb | hardly see anything fab types now that he hardly uses identica | Sep 22 15:08 |
| ThistleWeb | I'm not on G+ | Sep 22 15:08 |
| iophk | [url=http://www.itp.net/583409-windows-7-breaks-through-20-market-share]Vista 7 is failing[/url] | Sep 22 15:08 |
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| iophk | http://www.http://itp.net/583409-windows-7-breaks-through-20-market-share%5DVista | Sep 22 15:09 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Error processing the URL | Sep 22 15:09 |
| iophk | http://www.http://itp.net/583409-windows-7-breaks-through-20-market-share%5DVistae | Sep 22 15:09 |
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| iophk | there | Sep 22 15:09 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/84221944 | Sep 22 15:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Simon Phipps (webmink)'s status on Thursday, 22-Sep-11 13:30:07 UTC - Identi.ca: The HDMI out is great, but you have to carry your own lead... | Sep 22 15:12 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @WLLegal: Congressional Research Service releases report on WikiLeaks, publishing classified info, Espionage Act, & the 1st Amd: http ... | Sep 22 15:12 | |
| schestowitz | iophk: maybe add to thw wiki | Sep 22 15:13 |
| schestowitz | As an update | Sep 22 15:13 |
| schestowitz | but.. | Sep 22 15:13 |
| schestowitz | I think .. | Sep 22 15:13 |
| schestowitz | Oh wait | Sep 22 15:13 |
| schestowitz | LOL | Sep 22 15:13 |
| schestowitz | Net Apps | Sep 22 15:13 |
| schestowitz | 2011 | Sep 22 15:13 |
| schestowitz | Net App is US | Sep 22 15:13 |
| schestowitz | And Microsoft sponsored | Sep 22 15:14 |
| schestowitz | I'd just ignore this article | Sep 22 15:14 |
| schestowitz | Until they get a source without Microsoft connections and funds | Sep 22 15:14 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] CDC - Reports of Health Concerns Following #HPV Vaccination - #bigpharma http://goo.gl/nD2jY | Sep 22 15:16 | |
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| schestowitz | Wikipedia says only 82.58% of visitors use Windows | Sep 22 15:17 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Will Windows 8 block Linux installs? #dirtytricks #uefi #tpm #patents - http://goo.gl/BsCPR | Sep 22 15:17 | |
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| iophk | schestowitz: address blocked still | Sep 22 15:18 |
| schestowitz | which one? | Sep 22 15:19 |
| schestowitz | the above? | Sep 22 15:19 |
| schestowitz | http://www.itp.net/583409-windows-7-breaks-through-20-market-share | Sep 22 15:19 |
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| iophk | ok added to Wiki | Sep 22 15:19 |
| schestowitz | But it's from a Micfosoft pal | Sep 22 15:19 |
| schestowitz | Net Apps | Sep 22 15:20 |
| schestowitz | That ought to be pointed out | Sep 22 15:20 |
| schestowitz | Otrherwise it legitimises its stats, like the BlackDuck crapola | Sep 22 15:20 |
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| schestowitz | I would put it like, | Sep 22 15:20 |
| schestowitz | "even a Microsoft partner, which biases its statistics to the US population, shows Vista 7 at just 20% in 2011 (Vista 7 was released in 2009)" | Sep 22 15:21 |
| schestowitz | Otherwise you leave room for people like DrPizza to spin | Sep 22 15:22 |
| schestowitz | They love quoting fake MS numbers from their PR head, who came from W-E | Sep 22 15:22 |
| schestowitz | They count serial numbers issued and call these 'sales' | Sep 22 15:22 |
| schestowitz | So you're conditioned to thinking of someone walking into the shop, whipping out $300 and buying a boxed version of Vista 7 | Sep 22 15:23 |
| schestowitz | The number of people who do that is tiny | Sep 22 15:23 |
| schestowitz | People don't buy Woindows | Sep 22 15:23 |
| schestowitz | There are no Windows sales | Sep 22 15:23 |
| schestowitz | There are bulk OEM agreements | Sep 22 15:23 |
| schestowitz | And what's counted is some imaginary number only Microodft keeps track of because it applies to number of pemitted copies of 0s and 1s | Sep 22 15:24 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @BrkingTech: Microsoft Convinves Yet Another Company to Cough Up 'Protection' Money http://t.co/trfpnjlN | Sep 22 15:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[copiesofcopies/@copiesofcopies] Terrifying. Definitely a bed bug? You ever hear about this case? http://hotel-online.com/News/PR2003_4th/Nov03_BugCase.html | Sep 22 15:26 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[freemjd/@freemjd] I suspect that #SN10 is actually a cunning ploy to inspire people to develop their own implementations of #OStatus. | Sep 22 15:34 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] Und da behaupten manche mit Freier Software kann man kein Geld verdienen. Nur 281,3 Millionen US-Dollar Umsatz http://ur1.ca/55ebn | Sep 22 15:41 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Android bugs allow attackers to secretly install malware http://ur1.ca/55ecg | Sep 22 15:42 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #BackTrack adds RandomStorm #WordPress scanner http://ur1.ca/55ed7 | Sep 22 15:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] BackTrack Linux - Penetration Testing Distribution www.backtrack-linux.org | Sep 22 15:46 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @osc: i would reallly like to see more #blender people/artists/devs on identi.ca +1 | Sep 22 15:49 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] Vom !fellowship planet.fsfe.org/de "RTL II Flop: “#Nerd sucht Frau” nach drei Folgen abgesetzt" http://ur1.ca/55eil | Sep 22 15:59 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] Heh. That's why they are students, and you are the teacher :) | Sep 22 16:12 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] I want to throttle the world sometimes. People sure can suck. | Sep 22 16:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] America's Enemies List – America Under Attack | Intelwars.com http://goo.gl/K7KaV | Sep 22 16:26 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] (Official Trailer) THRIVE: What On Earth Will It Take? - #zpe #nwo http://youtu.be/OibqdwHyZxk | Sep 22 16:29 | |
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| schestowitz | > On 09/22/11 16:57, TomB wrote: | Sep 22 16:34 |
| schestowitz | >> http://www.macrumors.com/2011/08/04/iphone-5-and-budget-iphone-4-to-launch-in-china-in-october/ | Sep 22 16:34 |
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| schestowitz | >> | Sep 22 16:34 |
| schestowitz | >> "Essentially, this potential ‘simplified iPhone 4′ would be a more | Sep 22 16:34 |
| schestowitz | >> economical version of iPhone to target a broader customer base in | Sep 22 16:34 |
| schestowitz | >> developing countries such as China, allowing for an expanded market | Sep 22 16:34 |
| schestowitz | >> opportunity." | Sep 22 16:34 |
| schestowitz | >> | Sep 22 16:34 |
| schestowitz | >> Okay, so far for the idea that Apple only cares about the high-end | Sep 22 16:34 |
| schestowitz | >> market. I guess they finally woke up and smelled the carcass... | Sep 22 16:34 |
| schestowitz | > | Sep 22 16:34 |
| schestowitz | > | Sep 22 16:34 |
| schestowitz | > I happened to read a workers union magazine today. It had a long article | Sep 22 16:34 |
| schestowitz | > about Apple and FoxConn. Apple seems to be the worst of these | Sep 22 16:34 |
| schestowitz | > multinational companies. They did not even answer questions reporters | Sep 22 16:34 |
| schestowitz | > tried to get answers - total silence. | Sep 22 16:34 |
| schestowitz | > | Sep 22 16:34 |
| schestowitz | > FoxCon pays about 170 euros / month. A work shift is 11 hours. Worker | Sep 22 16:34 |
| schestowitz | > typically have to work 19 nights shifts and then get one day off. | Sep 22 16:34 |
| schestowitz | > Workers live in apartment blocks with 20 people might share a room. They | Sep 22 16:34 |
| schestowitz | > sleep stacked to three level beds. Houses are 18 stories hight and they | Sep 22 16:34 |
| schestowitz | > have had nets installed to avoid suicidal tendencies of the workers. | Sep 22 16:34 |
| schestowitz | > There is also barbed wire fences on to roof to make the jump little more | Sep 22 16:34 |
| schestowitz | > difficult - a real worker safety measure. The article was long and very | Sep 22 16:34 |
| schestowitz | > informative. Article also said that Apple net income per device is about | Sep 22 16:34 |
| schestowitz | > the half of the selling price. Now it is no wonder that apple have about | Sep 22 16:34 |
| schestowitz | > 90 Billion cash in the bank. Thanks to ripped of chinece workers... | Sep 22 16:34 |
| schestowitz | > | Sep 22 16:34 |
| schestowitz | > | Sep 22 16:34 |
| schestowitz | > I know other manufacturers are not much better than apple. I would be | Sep 22 16:34 |
| schestowitz | > ready to pay 50% more about my electronics if this kind of slavery of | Sep 22 16:34 |
| schestowitz | > people would end...and it is just SLAVERY of the 21th century! | Sep 22 16:35 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Mozilla ponders long(er)-term support releases http://lwn.net/Articles/459973/rss | Sep 22 16:37 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] TAKE ACTION: Fight National Identity System | Demand Progress http://goo.gl/XrMkc | Sep 22 16:39 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] 4 m$ #dirtytricks + #fud - #patents http://ur1.ca/55f17 #acpi http://goo.gl/UuNYh #beos http://ur1.ca/gdhk #uefi http://goo.gl/zTg3W | Sep 22 16:54 | |
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| schestowitz | iophk: http://paidcontent.org/article/419-with-an-eye-to-innovate-nokia-names-henry-tirri-cto-based-in-silicon-va/ | Sep 22 16:57 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: With An Eye To Innovate, Nokia Names Henry Tirri CTO In Silicon Valley | paidContent .::. Size~: 44.55 KB | Sep 22 16:57 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/116821144417472512 | Sep 22 16:57 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @FOSSpatents: RT @ingridlunden New Nokia CTO is a sign of how its focus has changed, wondering how much patents play into this http://t.co/fpmo0c7O | Sep 22 16:57 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Sep 22 16:57 |
| schestowitz | Who's indrid? | Sep 22 16:58 |
| schestowitz | *ingrid | Sep 22 16:58 |
| schestowitz | Not trhe same one as zdnet right? | Sep 22 16:58 |
| schestowitz | "Nokia has not commented on why it has made the change, but the shift to Tirri from Green underscores the transformation that Nokia has undergone this year, from a vertically-integrated device and software company, to one that has now decided to use a third party’s platform—Microsoft’s." | Sep 22 16:58 |
| schestowitz | LOL | Sep 22 16:58 |
| schestowitz | aka suicideOS | Sep 22 16:59 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @gh_geek: Apple Sued by Via Technologies Over U.S. Patents for Microprocessors http://ow.ly/6BUUV | Sep 22 17:04 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Linux Birthday Celebration Not Just for Nerds http://is.gd/kUGiJg #linux #kernel | Sep 22 17:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Sugestão lava mais branco do TeK: "Adotar normas abertas" - #PT http://goo.gl/VTKb5 | Sep 22 17:07 | |
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| schestowitz | http://www.zdnet.com/blog/security/utorrentcom-hacked-serving-scareware/9413 | Sep 22 17:08 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RoweBots Helps the Blind See http://is.gd/xqPauy all about Linux, too | Sep 22 17:12 | |
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| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/84224070 | Sep 22 17:13 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Qubit ArkHive (qubitarkhive)'s status on Thursday, 22-Sep-11 16:07:04 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz You think I troll Fedora? Based on what? I don't troll buddy, trolling != dissent | Sep 22 17:13 |
| schestowitz | Some rant about Fedora was posted a while back which vexed a lot of the community AFAIK | Sep 22 17:13 |
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| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/84224089 | Sep 22 17:13 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Qubit ArkHive (qubitarkhive)'s status on Thursday, 22-Sep-11 16:08:18 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz rdeiter would be sad to hear you think I troll Fedora, with all the help he is giving me with my Fedora based spin | Sep 22 17:13 |
| schestowitz | I had a particular incident in mind | Sep 22 17:14 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Humanitarian Software – Using technology to help humanity from Planet gnome by Dave Neary http://j.mp/pVDZOw | Sep 22 17:14 | |
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| _Goblin | he hasn't started bugging you now has he? | Sep 22 17:14 |
| schestowitz | it's trolling when one approaches a perceived opposition only with the intent of provoking for attention | Sep 22 17:15 |
| _Goblin | it was funny...whilst he was off on one on my identi.ca account, other people came forward to say that they didn't like him and that he was a liar. | Sep 22 17:15 |
| schestowitz | Has he lied? | Sep 22 17:15 |
| _Goblin | yep | Sep 22 17:15 |
| _Goblin | repeatedly | Sep 22 17:15 |
| schestowitz | Or is that justa n throwaway word? | Sep 22 17:15 |
| _Goblin | to thistleweb | Sep 22 17:15 |
| schestowitz | Like the trolls use | Sep 22 17:15 |
| _Goblin | to everyone | Sep 22 17:15 |
| schestowitz | The word "liar" is misused a lot | Sep 22 17:15 |
| schestowitz | Sometimes people make errors | Sep 22 17:15 |
| _Goblin | he's a nymshifting parasite. | Sep 22 17:15 |
| _Goblin | nope | Sep 22 17:15 |
| schestowitz | And then it's an error, not a lie | Sep 22 17:16 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Independent, Bombastic Financial News Show Dramatically Scoops the Financial Times On French Bank Run Story | ZeroHedge http://goo.gl/MT3xb | Sep 22 17:16 | |
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| _Goblin | and its thats tollerance which has allowed brandon to stay for so long | Sep 22 17:16 |
| *ThistleWeb smells an apologist | Sep 22 17:16 | |
| _Goblin | he was slagging you off behind your back for months. | Sep 22 17:16 |
| schestowitz | ThistleWeb: here, have some :-) | Sep 22 17:16 |
| schestowitz | It tasted good too | Sep 22 17:16 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: that's what he does for attention | Sep 22 17:16 |
| ThistleWeb | I chose to ignore him, yet I still saw him, turned out he'd changed nicks, or I'd changed OS's or whatever, so I ignore him again | Sep 22 17:16 |
| schestowitz | He's like the other trroll | Sep 22 17:16 |
| _Goblin | mind you with only a few people listening in his dent account...I don't suppose it matters much | Sep 22 17:16 |
| schestowitz | The one who invites himself to our show | Sep 22 17:17 |
| ThistleWeb | last time I saw him I asked him how many nicks he had | Sep 22 17:17 |
| _Goblin | thats why it was so important for him to stay here. | Sep 22 17:17 |
| schestowitz | And then trolls for attentin | Sep 22 17:17 |
| schestowitz | It's a bit parasitical | Sep 22 17:17 |
| ThistleWeb | because despite ignoring him multiple times, I yet again saw him | Sep 22 17:17 |
| _Goblin | it was a place where he could get people to listen to him.....people wouldn't bother otherwise. | Sep 22 17:17 |
| ThistleWeb | he told me 2 | Sep 22 17:17 |
| ThistleWeb | I pasted the 4 from my ignore filter to add to the 1 he was in, making 5 | Sep 22 17:17 |
| schestowitz | ThistleWeb: I didn'\t speak to him much | Sep 22 17:17 |
| schestowitz | Esp. when he had the periods of attack mode | Sep 22 17:17 |
| schestowitz | There's the mode where he helps | Sep 22 17:18 |
| ThistleWeb | 2 does not mean 5 | Sep 22 17:18 |
| schestowitz | And I appreciate it | Sep 22 17:18 |
| ThistleWeb | there is no error, that was a flat out lie | Sep 22 17:18 |
| schestowitz | And then he tries the opposite | Sep 22 17:18 |
| schestowitz | It's like a kid throwing a toy to get attention | Sep 22 17:18 |
| ThistleWeb | he has since tried to dodge the accusation by saying "well, they are old accounts" | Sep 22 17:18 |
| schestowitz | If the patents don't pay attention to something like the kid saying a new word | Sep 22 17:18 |
| schestowitz | daemon was similar | Sep 22 17:18 |
| schestowitz | He talks Linux | Sep 22 17:18 |
| schestowitz | And if poeople don't respond, then he provokes | Sep 22 17:19 |
| ThistleWeb | he also didn't appreciate me catching him in a flat out lie for the logs | Sep 22 17:19 |
| schestowitz | Anti-Mexicians, Vista screenshots, anything.. | Sep 22 17:19 |
| schestowitz | [17:18] <ThistleWeb> he has since tried to dodge the accusation by saying "well, they are old accounts" | Sep 22 17:19 |
| ThistleWeb | specially when I chose to be polite about ignoring him | Sep 22 17:19 |
| schestowitz | yes, he has | Sep 22 17:19 |
| schestowitz | But he also changes sites and calls accounts after these | Sep 22 17:19 |
| ThistleWeb | he then spammed me on identica | Sep 22 17:20 |
| schestowitz | I first knew him after he mailed me about pwnage.net, having posted an interview with de Icaza | Sep 22 17:20 |
| schestowitz | interview=e-mail exhcnage | Sep 22 17:20 |
| ThistleWeb | this isn't difference of opinion, or left / right | Sep 22 17:20 |
| ThistleWeb | he is a nymshifting troll | Sep 22 17:20 |
| schestowitz | IMHO: | Sep 22 17:20 |
| schestowitz | [and I know he reads this and that's ok] | Sep 22 17:20 |
| ThistleWeb | he carries it on to identica too | Sep 22 17:21 |
| schestowitz | He has a kmessage | Sep 22 17:21 |
| schestowitz | Not about FOSS | Sep 22 17:21 |
| schestowitz | But about society | Sep 22 17:21 |
| schestowitz | And he uses FOSS or piggybacks it to voice this message | Sep 22 17:21 |
| schestowitz | Like all that "government is communism" tripe | Sep 22 17:21 |
| ThistleWeb | _Goblin: banning him was an excellent lesson I couldn't have done better if it was me | Sep 22 17:21 |
| schestowitz | and to get attention to his site/message sometimes he needs to troll his friends | Sep 22 17:21 |
| ThistleWeb | but of course "he's having a bad day" so he'll be unbanned by schestowitz yet again rendering the concept of constant bad behaviour meaningless | Sep 22 17:22 |
| ThistleWeb | or _insert excuse here_ | Sep 22 17:22 |
| schestowitz | There are some otger groups that hijack forums in orthoginal ar aeas to promote ideas | Sep 22 17:22 |
| schestowitz | Like the gay movement | Sep 22 17:22 |
| schestowitz | or all sorts of cults | Sep 22 17:22 |
| schestowitz | SLashdot has had that problem | Sep 22 17:23 |
| schestowitz | ThistleWeb: kicking them out leads to backlash | Sep 22 17:23 |
| schestowitz | it's not always worth it | Sep 22 17:23 |
| schestowitz | You think of it differently | Sep 22 17:23 |
| ThistleWeb | after missing the lesson _Goblin taught him completely, he whines and moans to you about "tell him to apologise", then blends into "techrights banned me for disent of opinion, they lie etc | Sep 22 17:23 |
| schestowitz | Becausr you forget they have fallbacks | Sep 22 17:23 |
| schestowitz | Like, they can create sites | Sep 22 17:23 |
| schestowitz | Like the ACCESS troll sid | Sep 22 17:23 |
| schestowitz | did | Sep 22 17:24 |
| schestowitz | With his ~20 attack sites | Sep 22 17:24 |
| schestowitz | From over the years | Sep 22 17:24 |
| ThistleWeb | ahh, so by that idea, don't ban anyone | Sep 22 17:24 |
| ThistleWeb | invite the whole COLA crew to take over the channel | Sep 22 17:24 |
| schestowitz | COLA crew is good | Sep 22 17:24 |
| ThistleWeb | why should they be? | Sep 22 17:24 |
| schestowitz | DrumScum is cool (Tom) | Sep 22 17:24 |
| schestowitz | You mean COLA trolls? | Sep 22 17:24 |
| schestowitz | They're not COLA crew | Sep 22 17:24 |
| ThistleWeb | you don't ban, when people are banned you unban | Sep 22 17:24 |
| schestowitz | They're vandals/disruptors | Sep 22 17:24 |
| ThistleWeb | no matter what people do in here, they're not banned | Sep 22 17:25 |
| schestowitz | It's like callign the KKK the Black Chuch crew cause they hop on the church's lawn | Sep 22 17:25 |
| ThistleWeb | in some cases you even make excuses | Sep 22 17:25 |
| schestowitz | reasonable doubt | Sep 22 17:25 |
| schestowitz | I've been accused by Microsoft staff of the opposite | Sep 22 17:25 |
| schestowitz | being short-triggered in the sense that I don't even bother listening to them | Sep 22 17:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !Mozilla ponders long(er)-term support releases [LWN.net] http://is.gd/fTudFE | Sep 22 17:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] At CIA, Climate Change is a Secret | Secrecy News - #agw http://ur1.ca/55fcu | Sep 22 17:26 | |
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| ThistleWeb | rofl | Sep 22 17:26 |
| schestowitz | or ignore them in twitter (which I often do) | Sep 22 17:26 |
| schestowitz | tim is the one who is open to dicussion to them more than I am | Sep 22 17:26 |
| schestowitz | I am generally considering fence-sitters as the target audience | Sep 22 17:26 |
| schestowitz | For techrights too | Sep 22 17:26 |
| ThistleWeb | did it occur to you the impression people get when they read your articles, then come in here as a first time visitor? | Sep 22 17:26 |
| schestowitz | Not people who are hardcore Microsoftheads | Sep 22 17:26 |
| schestowitz | They're almost impossible to shake up | Sep 22 17:27 |
| ThistleWeb | if they come in at a bad time, it's just a mess | Sep 22 17:27 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] 2 #Android phones with 720p displays??? #geek #madness > nd.gd/x9, nd.gd/xa #LG #Samsung /cc @fredmanglis @nj3ma | Sep 22 17:27 | |
| ThistleWeb | even with ops around, there's nobody stepping in, nobody getting banned no matter what the offense, or disruption, or how often | Sep 22 17:27 |
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| ThistleWeb | it becomes a channel where trolls have a free reign | Sep 22 17:28 |
| ThistleWeb | does that help promote your 20+ blog posts a day? | Sep 22 17:28 |
| ThistleWeb | if a channel is a free reign for trolls, why would they just arrive in batches? why not camp here 24/7 | Sep 22 17:29 |
| ThistleWeb | making the channl all about arguments and trolling | Sep 22 17:29 |
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| ThistleWeb | you won't ban them, any op who doe, you will unban them then apologise for them | Sep 22 17:29 |
| ThistleWeb | it'll just become a real time version of COLA | Sep 22 17:30 |
| ThistleWeb | is that what you want? | Sep 22 17:30 |
| ThistleWeb | is that productive to your cause? | Sep 22 17:30 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] A Freeform WPM Test, or, Why Typing Tests are Flawed – SpikeX http://is.gd/OWTHOc | Sep 22 17:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] Cannot seem to be able to log into identi.ca via the new web UI. I hope it is just clumsy spelling on my part | Sep 22 17:31 | |
| schestowitz | hardly | Sep 22 17:31 |
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| schestowitz | how many cola-like trolls are in here right now? | Sep 22 17:31 |
| ThistleWeb | whats to stop them? | Sep 22 17:31 |
| schestowitz | obviously deterrence | Sep 22 17:31 |
| ThistleWeb | they read these logs | Sep 22 17:31 |
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| ThistleWeb | what deterence? you don't ban people | Sep 22 17:31 |
| schestowitz | they know there's moderation if needed | Sep 22 17:31 |
| ThistleWeb | rofl | Sep 22 17:31 |
| schestowitz | They can't just jump here and libel people | Sep 22 17:31 |
| schestowitz | They'd get banned fast | Sep 22 17:32 |
| ThistleWeb | the ops who do, you unban and apologise | Sep 22 17:32 |
| schestowitz | I mean libel like "x chopped off his penis" | Sep 22 17:32 |
| ThistleWeb | there is no deterant to setting up camp to troll 24/7 | Sep 22 17:32 |
| ThistleWeb | sure, libel is one thing | Sep 22 17:32 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Onde pára Paulo Campos? - "Paulo Campos foi um homem essencial a José Sócrates...." http://goo.gl/aeR40 | Sep 22 17:32 | |
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| ThistleWeb | it's not the only form of disruption, and probably not that much used either | Sep 22 17:32 |
| schestowitz | what disruption have you seen here today? | Sep 22 17:33 |
| schestowitz | There was no trolling here for days.. | Sep 22 17:33 |
| schestowitz | in cola is happens every minute | Sep 22 17:33 |
| ThistleWeb | I'd say wait until ender tries to get back in, after you apparently unbanned him | Sep 22 17:33 |
| ThistleWeb | but I ignored him via a * so hopefully he won't nymshift to get passed it | Sep 22 17:34 |
| ThistleWeb | why stop at ender? | Sep 22 17:35 |
| ThistleWeb | you don't ban people | Sep 22 17:35 |
| schestowitz | you oversimplify moderation | Sep 22 17:35 |
| ThistleWeb | no matter the offence, or repetition of the offence | Sep 22 17:35 |
| schestowitz | You think just banning everyone would work | Sep 22 17:35 |
| schestowitz | This reminds me of a video I watchedd yesterday | Sep 22 17:35 |
| ThistleWeb | banning SOME would be a start | Sep 22 17:35 |
| schestowitz | TJ got his arse handed to him by a geek | Sep 22 17:35 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObAMfhEcR04 | Sep 22 17:36 |
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| schestowitz | ThistleWeb: you make yourself a reputation of a short-tempered tyrant like this | Sep 22 17:36 |
| schestowitz | That doesn't suit my character | Sep 22 17:36 |
| ThistleWeb | recognising when someone is a problem and understanding they've had way more than their share of "bad days" and that banning them is the only option | Sep 22 17:36 |
| schestowitz | In your own view, it's a very strictly controlled environment | Sep 22 17:37 |
| schestowitz | But.. | Sep 22 17:37 |
| schestowitz | You can't impose that on everyone | Sep 22 17:37 |
| ThistleWeb | yes I have, and for someone of the left, that right wing aspect should speak volumes | Sep 22 17:37 |
| schestowitz | Otherwise you become like the FSF | Sep 22 17:37 |
| schestowitz | Which you often criticise too | Sep 22 17:37 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] How to get out of Sony's PSN arbitration clause? You have to be stubborn http://j.mp/r8viF5 | Sep 22 17:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] ♺ @zoowar: If piracy means stealing, shouldn't anti-piracy mean giving rather than suing? #fs #floss #dbd | Sep 22 17:37 | |
| schestowitz | I remember when you were on that show of andyc | Sep 22 17:37 |
| schestowitz | and then told them how to change the show | Sep 22 17:38 |
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| schestowitz | Even thought they had their own preferences | Sep 22 17:38 |
| schestowitz | It's fine | Sep 22 17:38 |
| schestowitz | As a modest proposal | Sep 22 17:38 |
| ThistleWeb | yeah that kinda blew up more than it should have, but yeah I'm not blameless there | Sep 22 17:38 |
| schestowitz | And I appreciate your suggestion to use real product names | Sep 22 17:38 |
| schestowitz | But why overdo this? | Sep 22 17:38 |
| ThistleWeb | it's your site | Sep 22 17:39 |
| ThistleWeb | your channel | Sep 22 17:39 |
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| schestowitz | I know | Sep 22 17:39 |
| schestowitz | Let's move on to other topics | Sep 22 17:39 |
| ThistleWeb | k | Sep 22 17:39 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] Finally #youtube has started to look like deeply shaded jelly beans! | Sep 22 17:39 | |
| schestowitz | I think moderation is fine here with just high abuse meriting ban | Sep 22 17:39 |
| schestowitz | we used to have no bans | Sep 22 17:39 |
| ThistleWeb | yeah, I wonder where that "high abuse" line is | Sep 22 17:39 |
| schestowitz | that changed when the ACCESS troll came here | Sep 22 17:39 |
| schestowitz | Because he issued threats to people | Sep 22 17:40 |
| ThistleWeb | but as you say, moving on | Sep 22 17:40 |
| schestowitz | And this could not be tolerated | Sep 22 17:40 |
| schestowitz | He did the same in blog comments | Sep 22 17:40 |
| schestowitz | Not just threats to me, but to others as well | Sep 22 17:40 |
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| schestowitz | So ww typed down moderation policy (2009) | Sep 22 17:40 |
| schestowitz | Identica needs to sort out the twitter bridge thing | Sep 22 17:40 |
| schestowitz | In the past the users there could maintain both sides from just identica | Sep 22 17:41 |
| schestowitz | And I see other users have had the same feature request, evan said it should take a few days | Sep 22 17:41 |
| schestowitz | AI also noticed that fabsh is really not so eager to stick around | Sep 22 17:41 |
| schestowitz | I hope that identica gorws | Sep 22 17:41 |
| schestowitz | And I noticed that the user IDs now are almost at half a milliob | Sep 22 17:41 |
| schestowitz | Not sure how many of those are spam accounts, but still. Some are inactive, too. | Sep 22 17:42 |
| schestowitz | Identica without a pool of users would be... well, like MySpace | Sep 22 17:42 |
| schestowitz | A platform waiting for a community to form or return | Sep 22 17:42 |
| _Goblin | ThistleWeb: I couldn't believe how he feel completely into the "without rules" trap...Under normal circumstances as an OP you have to consider the channel as a whole not your own opinions when you decide to ban...when Brandon told me I should live without rules, I was able to ignore that IRC OP rule and ban him....what a silly boy....or maybe just very slow... | Sep 22 17:43 |
| _Goblin | *fell | Sep 22 17:43 |
| _Goblin | or maybe highlights the biggest flaw in his whole argument.... | Sep 22 17:44 |
| ThistleWeb | _Goblin: that was why I doff'd my cap to your lesson | Sep 22 17:44 |
| _Goblin | :) | Sep 22 17:44 |
| ThistleWeb | it did two things in one, and he missed the point totally, went off crying to roy | Sep 22 17:44 |
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| _Goblin | the saddest part about it was, the person who he has attacked so often was the person who was tollerant enough to let him stay (Roy) | Sep 22 17:45 |
| _Goblin | but then he continued to fall into traps by saying on one hand that he didn't nym shift, then asking what he would win if he evaded my ban.... | Sep 22 17:46 |
| ThistleWeb | schestowitz: fab not supporting Identica (FOSS startup) over G+ does make me ask: is it right to use a FOSS service when it doesn't quite fit our needs, or do we chose on merit? in which case, we go with what does suit our needs, if that's the case, why blast fab for going with G+? | Sep 22 17:46 |
| ThistleWeb | people use identica because it's a microblogging service similar in function to twitter, but a better community | Sep 22 17:46 |
| ThistleWeb | if it doesn't suit their needs, why complain when people chose not to use it? | Sep 22 17:47 |
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| _Goblin | I'd go on merit every time....FOSS for FOSS sake is no way work.....it also means that people can say "He only thinks it better because its foss"....I'm the first to admit not all my solutions are FOSS, but that why when I say Linux is the better OS, I think it means more.... | Sep 22 17:47 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Extended Support proposal for #Firefox enterprise users - The H Open Source - #floss #mozilla http://goo.gl/lE4F7 | Sep 22 17:47 | |
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| ThistleWeb | asking people to use something that's not quite right for them just because it "supports FOSS" isn't much more than a pity fuck | Sep 22 17:48 |
| _Goblin | I don't support any of my solutions because they are FOSS, I support them because they are better software. | Sep 22 17:48 |
| ThistleWeb | exactly | Sep 22 17:48 |
| ThistleWeb | identica suits me, so I use it | Sep 22 17:48 |
| ThistleWeb | if G+ suited me better Id use that | Sep 22 17:48 |
| _Goblin | I like Identi.ca....but then as well as not instead of | Sep 22 17:48 |
| _Goblin | the only thing thats keeping me with G+ is the hangouts and chat....very handy | Sep 22 17:49 |
| _Goblin | Diaspora is the better community | Sep 22 17:49 |
| ThistleWeb | I don't see anything to gain in expecting people to use stuff that's not right for their needs, just because it's FOSS | Sep 22 17:49 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] Do I at least have the option to have threaded conversations? Conversations like this one are confusing without it. | Sep 22 17:49 | |
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| ThistleWeb | it's like trying to advocate linux for professional artists who need advanced photoshop stuff | Sep 22 17:50 |
| ThistleWeb | linux and the gimp aint gonna cut it, but hey, it's FOSS and you gots to support the FOSS | Sep 22 17:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] Interesting and balanced - LibreOffice and Apache OpenOffice.org one year later: http://wmk.me/noV1mC | Sep 22 17:52 | |
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| ThistleWeb | comparing G+ and Identica is comparing apples to pears too | Sep 22 17:53 |
| ThistleWeb | identica and twitter is a fair comparision | Sep 22 17:53 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @webmink: Interesting and balanced - LibreOffice and Apache OpenOffice.org one year later: http://wmk.me/noV1mC | Sep 22 17:54 | |
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| schestowitz | http://www.rttnews.com/Content/TopStories.aspx?Node=B1&Id=1718745 | Sep 22 18:00 |
| schestowitz | http://www.zdnet.com.au/hp-considering-leadership-switch-up-339322846.htm | Sep 22 18:00 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] LINK: Lib Dems Support Repeal of Digital Economy Act - http://torrentfreak.com/lib-dems-support-repeal-of-digital-economy-act-110921/ | Sep 22 18:01 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Sep 22 18:01 |
| schestowitz | ThistleWeb: I didn't "blast" fab | Sep 22 18:01 |
| ThistleWeb | you criticise him for "not supporting a FOSS startup" | Sep 22 18:02 |
| schestowitz | and FOSS was not my main point, either | Sep 22 18:02 |
| schestowitz | the startup bit, yeah | Sep 22 18:02 |
| ThistleWeb | as if he should be doing that instead of G+, even if it's not for him | Sep 22 18:02 |
| schestowitz | identica I support more than the goliath | Sep 22 18:02 |
| schestowitz | For the same reason some support diaspora | Sep 22 18:02 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RHT: Microsoft’s Ship Has Sailed In ‘Cloud Computing’ http://is.gd/eIYXJ6 #RedHat Profit Jumps 69% http://is.gd/SkmKT9 | Sep 22 18:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] LINK: Microsoft Convinces Yet Another Company to Cough Up 'Protection' Money - http://goo.gl/i1sVE #microsoft | Sep 22 18:02 | |
| schestowitz | They can speak to the devs, too | Sep 22 18:02 |
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| schestowitz | [17:48] <_Goblin> I don't support any of my solutions because they are FOSS, I support them because they are better software. | Sep 22 18:03 |
| schestowitz | identica now lerts you download all your data | Sep 22 18:03 |
| schestowitz | except perhaps personal messages | Sep 22 18:04 |
| _Goblin | no use to me... | Sep 22 18:04 |
| schestowitz | It's about lockin too | Sep 22 18:04 |
| _Goblin | I would have no use for my dents. | Sep 22 18:04 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] 20 years of Microsoft at the tender-free European Commission - The H Open Source - #ec #eu #dirtytricks http://goo.gl/tY0pu | Sep 22 18:04 | |
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| _Goblin | what good would a dent from 2010 be to me? What can I possibly use it for.... | Sep 22 18:04 |
| ThistleWeb | in theory the "download your data" is great, but in practical terms what use is it? | Sep 22 18:04 |
| ThistleWeb | do you speak in irc channels that are not logged? | Sep 22 18:05 |
| ThistleWeb | if so, all of that data is gone | Sep 22 18:05 |
| _Goblin | dent and even tech news (when its out of date) are what I call throwaway data......when they are out of date they are gone....just like a real conversation, you can't get a conversation youve had yesterday back......I look at the data in the same way | Sep 22 18:05 |
| _Goblin | the backing up of such data has never been seen as an advantage to me. | Sep 22 18:06 |
| ThistleWeb | for some things the data thing is great, but for a real time tech like identica or irc, it's pointless, unless a legal or support channel where people have solutions that are worth archiving | Sep 22 18:06 |
| schestowitz | brb | Sep 22 18:08 |
| schestowitz | friend came.. _Goblin what time do you want to record? | Sep 22 18:09 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] » NATO PR David Cameron at UN Promoting More ‘Humanitarian Interventions’ - Infowars - #nato #stateterrorism http://goo.gl/8yBKG | Sep 22 18:12 | |
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| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/84224077 | Sep 22 18:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Thursday, 22-Sep-11 16:07:30 UTC - Identi.ca: RoweBots Helps the Blind See http://is.gd/xqPauy all about Linux, too | Sep 22 18:14 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Happy to see that #newIdentica hasn't purged the memory banks ... Thanx @evan & Statusnet team | Sep 22 18:16 | |
| _Goblin | schestowitz: after 8pm? | Sep 22 18:17 |
| _Goblin | schestowitz: whatever time suits you really | Sep 22 18:17 |
| _Goblin | sorry just returned to keyboard mid shower......Gordon, I'll speak in a few minuttes | Sep 22 18:17 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @evan Also, now that I know where it is, search seems *much* improved :) | Sep 22 18:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Sigil not doesn't seem so daunting, but may be b/c I can muddle through XHTML thanks to the <<brilliant>> HTMLdog > http://htmldog.com/ | Sep 22 18:21 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Good, otherwise Twitter will be neglected....I very rarely check it and rely on my dents being piped! | Sep 22 18:26 | |
| koolhead17 | hey alll | Sep 22 18:32 |
| koolhead17 | Kryczek: supp | Sep 22 18:32 |
| koolhead17 | schestowitz jono _Goblin MinceR hi all :D | Sep 22 18:32 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @schestowitz #CloudLinux Now Running on More Than 5,000 Servers http://is.gd/cv5Fwp commendable milestone, anyone can #RHEL his/her ... | Sep 22 18:34 | |
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| _Goblin | lol I just noticed...... Brandon "No Rules" Lozza has 2 followers on identi.ca no wonder he's bugging Roy, he's hoping to get people listening to him.... Maybe if he works hard, by this time next year he can double it to 4 followers... | Sep 22 18:49 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] Interview with the Devil - snippet from Lawyers in Hell: http://www.perseidpublishing.com/blog/?p=27 | Sep 22 18:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] NetbootCD: A Handy Tool for Managing Multiple Linux Distributions http://soc.li/GRzjmxe #linux | Sep 22 18:49 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] RT @thinkgeek: Happy Hobbit Day! We suggest celebrating the birth of Bilbo & Frodo with a barefoot second breakfast of scones. | Sep 22 18:54 | |
| _Goblin | roy, going for a smoke....back shortly.. | Sep 22 18:57 |
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| *username is now known as Chips_B_Malroy | Sep 22 19:04 | |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Howdy | Sep 22 19:04 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | 2 down, 2 to go: http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/09/22/us-hp-idUSTRE78K40I20110922?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews | Sep 22 19:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: HP close to naming Whitman CEO, firing Apotheker | Reuters .::. Size~: 98.21 KB | Sep 22 19:05 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Just leaves the Nokia Trojan and Fester | Sep 22 19:05 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | I am wondering how much stock Carl Icahn ownes in HP, and if he was instrumental in the sacking of the last CEO at HP. http://www.forbes.com/sites/petercohan/2011/09/22/memo-to-carl-icahn-replace-hewlett-packards-board-to-switch-on-its-innovation-dna/ | Sep 22 19:15 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | well, maybe Icahn has no connection in all this? | Sep 22 19:18 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | If the HP board is not firing Apotheker for the webos, selling the pc business, and buying a software company, then what are they firing him for? | Sep 22 19:20 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | sounds fishy to me | Sep 22 19:20 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Solar Dynamics Observatory records an X1.4 Solar Flare and a Coronal Mass Ejection -- Fire in the Sky -- Sott.net http://goo.gl/ublk2 | Sep 22 19:24 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] 15 Food Companies That Serve You 'Wood' -- Health & Wellness -- Sott.net #food http://goo.gl/DbSp5 | Sep 22 19:31 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] From descriptions I've read, the "new" !Facebook timeline sounds just like Google+'s stream and Friendfeed's feed before that? | Sep 22 19:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] So lets see if this message gets through to Twitter....here's hoping.... | Sep 22 19:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] And yes, I can confirm..... the dent was piped to Twitter with no problems! | Sep 22 19:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] EU and Australia pass unlawful & secretive deal to share air passenger data & profile travelers: https://eff.org/r.C94 #stopspying #pnr | Sep 22 19:39 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] "Two #TSA agents told her she could not go any further until they checked her hair for explosives" #usa #policestate http://goo.gl/bnVgZ | Sep 22 19:42 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] shogun | A Large Scale Machine Learning Toolbox #floss http://goo.gl/nhI6 http://goo.gl/SzDSs | Sep 22 19:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] should've brought @bkuhn with you. he's !identica's foremost expert on bedbug avoidance. | Sep 22 19:51 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] some parts have arrived http://coffee.jezra.net/coffee/20110922 #sip_and_click | Sep 22 19:52 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] The BBC, the Science of Psychopathy and the New World Order -- Puppet Masters -- Sott.net #psy #nwo http://goo.gl/uQ8CA | Sep 22 19:54 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] http://www.jamendo.com/en/album/85671 awesome libre music :D | Sep 22 20:17 | |
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| schestowitz | _Goblin: right, I'm ready | Sep 22 20:19 |
| schestowitz | just got back from the restauarant, no cocohol | Sep 22 20:19 |
| schestowitz | just making coffe, back in a minute (not sitting down yet) | Sep 22 20:20 |
| schestowitz | *coffee *alcohol *restaurant | Sep 22 20:20 |
| schestowitz | I see chips was here | Sep 22 20:20 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Thanks Senators @RonWyden @MarkUdall for continuing fight for truth about secret interpretations of #PatriotAct https://eff.org/r.C6z | Sep 22 20:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] Am i the only one using Identi.ca a LOT more since the upgrade? @evan Are there usage statistics you can show off since the upgrade? | Sep 22 20:21 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Missing content type. Ignoring. | Sep 22 20:21 |
| schestowitz | [18:49] <_Goblin> lol I just noticed..... | Sep 22 20:21 |
| schestowitz | That's why snit piggybacks techrights too | Sep 22 20:21 |
| schestowitz | His site gets about 1/1000 what techrights get | Sep 22 20:21 |
| schestowitz | it's a way for people with no following to gaining recognition -- to troll bigger ones | Sep 22 20:21 |
| schestowitz | trying to entice some people at expense of others | Sep 22 20:22 |
| schestowitz | wow. Icahn strikes again, shows chips | Sep 22 20:23 |
| schestowitz | what a parasite icahn is | Sep 22 20:23 |
| schestowitz | oops. I replied to brandon, now he messages me 5 times | Sep 22 20:24 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Spotkanie projektu WiOO w Szkole na IRCu: #wioowszkole na irc.freenode.net już za 10min. | Sep 22 20:24 | |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/84224786 | Sep 22 20:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Qubit ArkHive (qubitarkhive)'s status on Thursday, 22-Sep-11 17:03:17 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Now you're a mind reader? You only have suspicion of what my motive is and your zeal makes you think its to troll. | Sep 22 20:25 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/84224795 | Sep 22 20:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Qubit ArkHive (qubitarkhive)'s status on Thursday, 22-Sep-11 17:04:04 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Let me know what that incident is because i'm 100% it wasn't trolling. Complaints != trolling. | Sep 22 20:25 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/84225511 | Sep 22 20:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Qubit ArkHive (qubitarkhive)'s status on Thursday, 22-Sep-11 18:00:25 UTC - Identi.ca: Not true. #Techrights making up facts? | Sep 22 20:25 |
| ThistleWeb | relax, he's just having a bad day | Sep 22 20:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @kevie hehehe is this genuine? http://identi.ca/url/53839599 | Sep 22 20:26 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting image/png type | Sep 22 20:26 |
| ThistleWeb | aledgedly | Sep 22 20:26 |
| ThistleWeb | he's a nice boy really | Sep 22 20:26 |
| ThistleWeb | just misunderstood | Sep 22 20:26 |
| schestowitz | nothing a cigarette can't fix | Sep 22 20:27 |
| _Goblin | poor Brandon...... no matter how loud he shouts he just can't get people to listen....maybe its because despite his POV, he has no concept on how to talk in an adult way and have a debate....His views were fine, it was the way he couldn't view them without being insulting to people....A sign of immaturity.... It didn;t help his cause that his version of nymshifting and alias differs greatly from most other people views... | Sep 22 20:32 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] RT @gomerx @jordanc Thanks for doing what you do. There's still no place I'd rather be than right here. | Sep 22 20:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Hear hear! @jordanc is the secret hero of StatusNet. | Sep 22 20:32 | |
| _Goblin | oh. well....Ive been far too generous in the amount of time Ive dedicated to him. There's a limit to how much charity one can give... | Sep 22 20:32 |
| _Goblin | Roy, you ready to record in about 20 mins? | Sep 22 20:33 |
| MinceR | ender deserves what he got | Sep 22 20:35 |
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| MinceR | and no, his views weren't all fine, unless you think the FSF are communists | Sep 22 20:35 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: yes, any time | Sep 22 20:35 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: maybe *some* views | Sep 22 20:36 |
| schestowitz | I agree with him on some things | Sep 22 20:36 |
| MinceR | if you want to see who are the communists, look at the company that demands that PCs ship only allowing their kernel to boot | Sep 22 20:36 |
| _Goblin | I didn't agree with them but I would support his right to view them, as long (as I say) it didn't wind up or upset others.. | Sep 22 20:36 |
| schestowitz | I even agreed with him on some thigns befor _Goblin kicked him | Sep 22 20:36 |
| _Goblin | everyone here can disagree without being insulting.... | Sep 22 20:36 |
| _Goblin | Brandon could not | Sep 22 20:36 |
| schestowitz | I was going to respond to say I agreed with him | Sep 22 20:36 |
| MinceR | _Goblin: he isn't prevented from believe what he wants | Sep 22 20:36 |
| MinceR | it isn't even possible to do so | Sep 22 20:36 |
| schestowitz | but authocompete on "end" didn't work | Sep 22 20:37 |
| schestowitz | So I scrolled down to find that he had been banned | Sep 22 20:37 |
| MinceR | he should have been banned ages before | Sep 22 20:37 |
| _Goblin | I do agree | Sep 22 20:37 |
| schestowitz | I don't remember what it was I was gonna say I agree on, that was days ago and long after he said it | Sep 22 20:37 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[copiesofcopies/@copiesofcopies] I'd buy that if the number wasn't basically always 4. Not 3, not 15, but 4. | Sep 22 20:37 | |
| _Goblin | but I don't think theres any loss... | Sep 22 20:38 |
| _Goblin | he'll change his pov shortly and try to come back in with an apology | Sep 22 20:38 |
| _Goblin | around in circles | Sep 22 20:38 |
| schestowitz | I recall him having about 50 followers in identica | Sep 22 20:38 |
| schestowitz | Not sure what happened | Sep 22 20:38 |
| schestowitz | He was also on our feed | Sep 22 20:38 |
| _Goblin | I think its obvious... | Sep 22 20:38 |
| schestowitz | Until he started with the communist thing | Sep 22 20:38 |
| _Goblin | he started to put his unique viewpoint across. | Sep 22 20:38 |
| schestowitz | and other weird stuff | Sep 22 20:38 |
| schestowitz | I guess atlas and qubitarkhive still follow and agreed with him | Sep 22 20:39 |
| MinceR | i don't think there's a "unique viewpoint" beyond "i'll find out how i can piss off the most people here" | Sep 22 20:39 |
| _Goblin | he craves attention....he can't get it with literary skill, so he goes for the insulting......in the hope he will get attention. | Sep 22 20:39 |
| MinceR | yes, trolls crave attention | Sep 22 20:39 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: unqiue as in too out of the ordinary | Sep 22 20:39 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: my friend gave me some name I can't recall now to look up | Sep 22 20:39 |
| schestowitz | Albert something | Sep 22 20:39 |
| schestowitz | Or something albert | Sep 22 20:39 |
| schestowitz | Some famous philosopher I think | Sep 22 20:40 |
| schestowitz | I can't recall the name now, he said it about 20 times and spelled it out | Sep 22 20:40 |
| schestowitz | oh | Sep 22 20:40 |
| schestowitz | pike | Sep 22 20:40 |
| schestowitz | I remember now | Sep 22 20:40 |
| schestowitz | Let's see | Sep 22 20:40 |
| _Goblin | MinceR: I don't think he's a troll....I think his aim is to try and build self-esteem by having people listen...he does that by drawing attention to himself any way he can....I think his "aim" is to be taken seriously.... | Sep 22 20:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Richard Cheese sings Rebecca Black's "Friday": ur1.ca/55gk9 - now I've heard everything. | Sep 22 20:41 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&site=&q=albert+pike+site:techrights.org&btnG=Search | Sep 22 20:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: albert pike site:techrights.org - Google Search .::. Size~: 100.86 KB | Sep 22 20:41 |
| schestowitz | hmmm... | Sep 22 20:41 |
| schestowitz | Ender mentioned him many times too | Sep 22 20:41 |
| MinceR | _Goblin: in other words, he's a troll | Sep 22 20:41 |
| schestowitz | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Pike | Sep 22 20:41 |
| _Goblin | mmm.... | Sep 22 20:41 |
| schestowitz | "Albert Pike (December 29, 1809–April 2, 1891) was an attorney, Confederate officer, writer, and Freemason. Pike is the only Confederate military officer or figure to be honored with an outdoor statue in Washington, D.C. (in Judiciary Square) mostly due to his masonic connection with President Andrew Johnson, who pardoned Pike for treason after the American Civil War." | Sep 22 20:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Albert Pike - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 77.81 KB | Sep 22 20:41 |
| schestowitz | \[spent his childhood in Byfield" | Sep 22 20:42 |
| schestowitz | nugg said | Sep 22 20:42 |
| schestowitz | soounds like a troll | Sep 22 20:42 |
| MinceR | lol | Sep 22 20:42 |
| _Goblin | no i'd say because unlike a troll, he wants to be taken seriously not just flame.....its just in Brandons mind the way he does it is by drawing attention any way he can.... | Sep 22 20:42 |
| _Goblin | in the hope he'll hit a button which will make people listen..... | Sep 22 20:43 |
| MinceR | also, i don't think any forum owes to sacrifice themselves for the mental development of a child | Sep 22 20:43 |
| schestowitz | So it's that whole freemason thing again | Sep 22 20:43 |
| _Goblin | lol | Sep 22 20:43 |
| _Goblin | that was good.... | Sep 22 20:43 |
| schestowitz | A lot of people sceptical of the Establishment keep pointing at Freemasonry | Sep 22 20:43 |
| _Goblin | I volunteered (without prompting) in a conversation that didn't involve me, that my father was a mason....I've never had or ever will have any involvement whatso-ever.....Brandon would love to make a conpiracy out of that. | Sep 22 20:44 |
| schestowitz | It's usually blamuing Illuminati, or Freemosons, or Jews, or Skull and Bones etc. for everything | Sep 22 20:44 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @stav: love people who proudly claim "If I can do it, anybody can" They are apparently the most inept humans on the face of the planet. | Sep 22 20:44 | |
| schestowitz | Not sure if those conpiracy sites all are correct or just falls into an echo chamber trap | Sep 22 20:44 |
| _Goblin | I don't even know when my Father goes to meetings or even if he does at all now... | Sep 22 20:44 |
| schestowitz | We know who runs society | Sep 22 20:44 |
| MinceR | if you disagree with him about something, you can be sure he'll use such a detail to smear you | Sep 22 20:44 |
| schestowitz | The top 400 rich people in the US are worth almost 2 trillion | Sep 22 20:44 |
| schestowitz | And they got a lot richer in the past year while thre FTSE sinks | Sep 22 20:44 |
| schestowitz | Dow is down 3% today, he checked on his phone | Sep 22 20:45 |
| _Goblin | right... | Sep 22 20:45 |
| _Goblin | Im going for a smoke before techbytes | Sep 22 20:45 |
| schestowitz | ok | Sep 22 20:45 |
| _Goblin | schestowitz: btw I'm sorry Ive got no tracks... :( | Sep 22 20:45 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: you don't know your father? | Sep 22 20:45 |
| schestowitz | Then it' s a secrey | Sep 22 20:45 |
| schestowitz | Part of the conpiracy | Sep 22 20:45 |
| _Goblin | true...... | Sep 22 20:45 |
| schestowitz | Maybe he has orgies in coffins and then drinks blood | Sep 22 20:46 |
| schestowitz | With G W Bush | Sep 22 20:46 |
| _Goblin | or maybe (like Luke Skywalker) it will turn out to be Darth Vader.... | Sep 22 20:46 |
| schestowitz | TBH, I've not seen much evidence yet t0 see this as real threat | Sep 22 20:46 |
| schestowitz | I'm waiting for some | Sep 22 20:46 |
| _Goblin | no what I mean is that, Ive never had an interest in masons, so never asked my father about it. | Sep 22 20:46 |
| schestowitz | re Illuninati, they usually cite some ancient 19th century stuff | Sep 22 20:46 |
| _Goblin | or kiss frogs. | Sep 22 20:46 |
| schestowitz | Yet no modern evidence of things from recent decades | Sep 22 20:46 |
| _Goblin | or worse.... | Sep 22 20:47 |
| _Goblin | nope thats the masons. | Sep 22 20:47 |
| _Goblin | right... | Sep 22 20:47 |
| _Goblin | smoke now | Sep 22 20:47 |
| schestowitz | ok | Sep 22 20:47 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[copiesofcopies/@copiesofcopies] Ah, that makes sense. But it seems that the count is *always* wrong. Maybe better not to cache that #, or to just say "show all replies"? | Sep 22 20:47 | |
| _Goblin | or am I going off to report to the masons that Techrights needs shutting down???????????? ;) | Sep 22 20:47 |
| MinceR | nah | Sep 22 20:50 |
| MinceR | ender hates techrights, which means the freemasons love it | Sep 22 20:51 |
| MinceR | or something | Sep 22 20:51 |
| ThistleWeb | is there any point in playing shrink to the patient? he's banned....until he comes back of course | Sep 22 20:53 |
| schestowitz | Now my mate is joking by mail | Sep 22 20:53 |
| schestowitz | "> This is I, your intellectual mentor and radicalisation guru, Albert Pike awaits you Lord Royston." | Sep 22 20:53 |
| schestowitz | I've just looked him up and I fail to see what he did that's of great importance other than his daughter publishing his journals. | Sep 22 20:53 |
| schestowitz | Brandon from the IRC channel mentioned him numerous times, but I am not quite seeing how it ties anything considerable together. | Sep 22 20:53 |
| ThistleWeb | my inner tyrant says there's no point in debating those already dealt with | Sep 22 20:54 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] After @EFFaustin demands answers, https://eff.org/r.C62, Austin PD's 'Operation Wardrive' cancelled https://eff.org/r.C83 #opWarDrive | Sep 22 20:54 | |
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| ThistleWeb | all of us rampant lefties have inner tyrants don'cha'know | Sep 22 20:54 |
| MinceR | ThistleWeb: so long as there are mistaken ideas along the lines of "he's not that bad" and "he'll get better", i thought it a good idea to raise a few points | Sep 22 20:54 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: it's a magnet for masons :-) | Sep 22 20:54 |
| schestowitz | BTW, it's trou8bling how the world's rich buy themselves bios now | Sep 22 20:55 |
| schestowitz | They try to pose for photos with african kids and stuff | Sep 22 20:55 |
| schestowitz | To seem generous and lovely | Sep 22 20:55 |
| MinceR | ThistleWeb: also, it's not really an isolated case | Sep 22 20:55 |
| schestowitz | And they know it's a moral shield | Sep 22 20:55 |
| schestowitz | You'd be a child-hating racist to say anything against their PR stunts | Sep 22 20:55 |
| schestowitz | Some people also chose feamle or gay PR spokespeople for similar reasons | Sep 22 20:56 |
| MinceR | then i'd have to be a child-hating racist | Sep 22 20:56 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] The phone is for size reference and the mobo is a mini-itx; too big to fit in the phone. However, a RaspberryPi should easily fit in a phone | Sep 22 20:56 | |
| MinceR | (though i initially misread that as "child-eating racist", which sounded more fun) | Sep 22 20:56 |
| schestowitz | This whole Republican/pro-corpos thing is getting a little out of hand in Land of the Brave | Sep 22 20:56 |
| ThistleWeb | schestowitz: posing with african kids? a group photo of staff from the new factory? | Sep 22 20:56 |
| schestowitz | Ha | Sep 22 20:57 |
| schestowitz | The Microsoft intern who trolled here.. | Sep 22 20:57 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is marjoleink with 154 dents! | Sep 22 20:57 | |
| MinceR | :> | Sep 22 20:57 |
| schestowitz | Is not trollling over at titter | Sep 22 20:57 |
| schestowitz | or inciting | Sep 22 20:57 |
| MinceR | which one? | Sep 22 20:58 |
| *sebsebseb (~3seb@unaffiliated/sebsebseb) has joined #techrights | Sep 22 20:58 | |
| sebsebseb | hi | Sep 22 20:58 |
| schestowitz | ThistleWeb: good point | Sep 22 20:58 |
| schestowitz | hey, sebsebseb | Sep 22 20:58 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: hi | Sep 22 20:58 |
| sebsebseb | _Goblin: hi | Sep 22 20:58 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/anonlgrisback/statuses/116905462892462080 | Sep 22 20:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @anonlgrisback: @parmy Here you go: http://t.co/8WdRFmns | Sep 22 20:58 |
| MinceR | hay sebsebseb | Sep 22 20:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Sep 22 20:58 |
| ThistleWeb | just can't stop those wealthy job creators from creating all those jobs | Sep 22 20:58 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: hi | Sep 22 20:58 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/anonlgrisback/status/116827637606907904 | Sep 22 20:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @anonlgrisback: @parmy Look for a January 2008 scandal with #Microsoft in #Greece involving then Fin Min Alogoskoufis. | Sep 22 20:59 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: MSincer | Sep 22 20:59 |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: msebsebseb | Sep 22 20:59 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] Curious - the status.net app is actin weird | Sep 22 20:59 | |
| schestowitz | To the MS intern: http://twitter.com/conscioususer/statuses/116868340080852993 | Sep 22 20:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @conscioususer: @m4n1sh Of course they hate him. Unity aside, he was an "incorrect hire" to begin with. http://t.co/CCPeUAyP http://t.co/3aM735eT | Sep 22 20:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Sep 22 20:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Sep 22 20:59 |
| schestowitz | Mono boosters | Sep 22 20:59 |
| schestowitz | ThistleWeb: exactly | Sep 22 20:59 |
| schestowitz | That's what they say | Sep 22 20:59 |
| schestowitz | And what I said they say | Sep 22 20:59 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: no I was trying to joke with you there, but I don't think you picked up on the joke | Sep 22 21:00 |
| schestowitz | The "job creation" BS | Sep 22 21:00 |
| schestowitz | Politivcianlove this | Sep 22 21:00 |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: i tried to continue a joke i thought i detected | Sep 22 21:00 |
| schestowitz | And this is how they defend tax exmpeiton and cuts for the rich | Sep 22 21:00 |
| schestowitz | It's all spin, it's a lie | Sep 22 21:00 |
| schestowitz | Although the rich do blackmail | Sep 22 21:00 |
| schestowitz | Like saying they would leave unless they don't get tax cuts | Sep 22 21:00 |
| schestowitz | A lot of people don't even know that the superrich hardly pay tax | Sep 22 21:01 |
| schestowitz | Onlt the rich ds | Sep 22 21:01 |
| schestowitz | Above a certain level they becom untouchable by the state | Sep 22 21:01 |
| schestowitz | Adnt they they justify it using 'chairty' PR that they can afford | Sep 22 21:01 |
| _Goblin | sebsebseb: Hi mate. | Sep 22 21:04 |
| schestowitz | is seb comiing on? | Sep 22 21:05 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: I was just thinking about that | Sep 22 21:05 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: only thing is I haven't got Skype set up yet, but could get set up with it | Sep 22 21:05 |
| sebsebseb | probably doesn't take that long? | Sep 22 21:05 |
| _Goblin | It takes about 5 mins | Sep 22 21:05 |
| _Goblin | via email.... | Sep 22 21:05 |
| sebsebseb | ok so you guys want to record soon? | Sep 22 21:06 |
| _Goblin | I think rusty is joining us | Sep 22 21:06 |
| sebsebseb | _Goblin: uh via email? | Sep 22 21:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] voted for "StatusNet's new look" | Sep 22 21:06 | |
| _Goblin | to register et al | Sep 22 21:06 |
| sebsebseb | yeah could go on with Rusy as well I suppouse | Sep 22 21:06 |
| sebsebseb | _Goblin: schestowitz When do you want to record? | Sep 22 21:06 |
| _Goblin | we are looking in the next 5 - 10 mins. | Sep 22 21:07 |
| _Goblin | although it may be a bit noisy due to 3 people already on... | Sep 22 21:07 |
| sebsebseb | _Goblin: true | Sep 22 21:07 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: come join us | Sep 22 21:07 |
| sebsebseb | ,but we could have a episdoe about distros and deskp envrionents and yeah | Sep 22 21:07 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: 3 already on? | Sep 22 21:08 |
| schestowitz | Just you sebsebseb and I | Sep 22 21:08 |
| _Goblin | Rusty is around and willing...he's just contacted me... | Sep 22 21:08 |
| schestowitz | ah | Sep 22 21:08 |
| schestowitz | col | Sep 22 21:08 |
| schestowitz | cool | Sep 22 21:08 |
| _Goblin | what we could do is this.... | Sep 22 21:08 |
| sebsebseb | well maybe with him as well then | Sep 22 21:08 |
| sebsebseb | I just need setting up and to tell my family not to distrub me | Sep 22 21:08 |
| schestowitz | mayve we can record with sebsebseb on saturday? | Sep 22 21:08 |
| schestowitz | or now | Sep 22 21:08 |
| schestowitz | either would be good | Sep 22 21:08 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Administrador da Nokia demite-se por não concordar com aliança com Microsoft- Empresas - Jornal de negócios - #msnokia http://goo.gl/JndDg | Sep 22 21:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Court lets @ACLU challenge to FISA Amendments Act warrantless wiretap law proceed https://eff.org/r.1C6, NYT analysis https://eff.org/r.1C7 | Sep 22 21:09 | |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Missing content type. Ignoring. | Sep 22 21:09 |
| sebsebseb | _Goblin: I can go on with Rusy as well I guess | Sep 22 21:10 |
| schestowitz | yeah | Sep 22 21:10 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: what's your username? | Sep 22 21:10 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: need to Switch to WIndows and set up Skype if going on, since my head set won't work here | Sep 22 21:11 |
| _Goblin | since it would be nice to do only about 1hour (quite late)....we can record the sebsebseb separately and add it on..maybe record him friday and then release the ep after that. | Sep 22 21:11 |
| schestowitz | that's possible | Sep 22 21:11 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: _Goblin Ok not this evening then I gues | Sep 22 21:11 |
| sebsebseb | just do the three of us another time | Sep 22 21:12 |
| _Goblin | friday would be goo | Sep 22 21:12 |
| sebsebseb | not quite set up anyway to go on, so yeah | Sep 22 21:12 |
| _Goblin | good. | Sep 22 21:12 |
| sebsebseb | Friday what time? | Sep 22 21:12 |
| sebsebseb | so you mean tommorow | Sep 22 21:12 |
| _Goblin | in the evening, we can record it, then attach to the next episode of techbytes. | Sep 22 21:12 |
| _Goblin | how about that? | Sep 22 21:12 |
| sebsebseb | _Goblin: schestowitz no I meant, going on for a proper episode? the three of us? | Sep 22 21:12 |
| _Goblin | yeah ok.....I thought it was just Mageia you wanted to talk about... | Sep 22 21:13 |
| sebsebseb | _Goblin: no, more general | Sep 22 21:13 |
| sebsebseb | distros, desktp envrionments, that kind of thing | Sep 22 21:13 |
| sebsebseb | expereinces with that even, that kind of thing | Sep 22 21:14 |
| schestowitz | tomorrow we need to know the time, I'm out with friends at night | Sep 22 21:14 |
| schestowitz | but can record any time other than that | Sep 22 21:14 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: going out when? | Sep 22 21:14 |
| schestowitz | 5ish | Sep 22 21:15 |
| schestowitz | But I can get back early | Sep 22 21:15 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: uh 5pm? | Sep 22 21:15 |
| schestowitz | just let me know what time suits you best | Sep 22 21:15 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: oh I was thinking like 9pm or something like that tommorow | Sep 22 21:15 |
| schestowitz | 9pm is good | Sep 22 21:15 |
| schestowitz | so it's a date! | Sep 22 21:15 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: I could do later then that even | Sep 22 21:15 |
| sebsebseb | no problem | Sep 22 21:16 |
| schestowitz | :-) | Sep 22 21:16 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: Coe tomorrow at 9 | Sep 22 21:16 |
| sebsebseb | 9 10? yeah that kind of time I think | Sep 22 21:17 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: I'm writing down some topics | Sep 22 21:17 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @alphazo: #Darktable (git version) now supports Fuji X100 RAW files !photography !linux | Sep 22 21:17 | |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: 5pm isn't night, that's evening | Sep 22 21:18 |
| sebsebseb | or late afternoon by the way | Sep 22 21:18 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] There really should be a hackers-only jobs network. | Sep 22 21:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] oh, it looks like I need to add " is not attending " to my filter list | Sep 22 21:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] The right mascot for Linux is a 30-foot-tall all-iron freight train on fire running over a bunch of bad guys | Sep 22 21:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] I agree. The new #StatusNet web interface, at least, is !problematic and !disturbing and makes me want to say !heehaw | Sep 22 21:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Anyplace, Anywhere, Anytime - YouTube http://youtu.be/LVOiUHo3WSE | Sep 22 21:34 | |
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| MinceR | lol @ evan's latest dent | Sep 22 21:35 |
| MinceR | gn | Sep 22 21:39 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] the reason my name isn't "Jeremiah".... what movie am I ripping? | Sep 22 21:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] RT @skyfaller Cornell Law has "like" and "+1" buttons on every page of their site publishing the U.S. Code. Sorry, I'm not going to "lik ... | Sep 22 21:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] "Poll: Vast majority of Israelis would accept U.N. recognizing Palestine" | too bad they are governed by zionists http://goo.gl/KDZmJ | Sep 22 21:51 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Poll: Vast majority of Israelis would accept U.N. recognizing Palestine | The Raw Story .::. Size~: 55.64 KB | Sep 22 21:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO | Sep 22 22:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO | Sep 22 22:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] I agree! She's a treasure. | Sep 22 22:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] OK actually I don't care so much about this one. | Sep 22 22:04 | |
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| Diablo-D3 | what the fuck is evan even doing | Sep 22 22:08 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] home again home again, jiggidy jig. after several hours of tran-hacking, i pushed a large number of commits upon getting back home. | Sep 22 22:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Is that wrong? :-) | Sep 22 22:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] er ... um ... er ... | Sep 22 22:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Faster than light neutrino possibly found at CERN http://identi.ca/url/53842324 !science | Sep 22 22:14 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: News from The Associated Press .::. Size~: 43.16 KB | Sep 22 22:14 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Santorum demands Google to unremember “frothy mix result,” Google tells him to get bent http://identi.ca/url/53842366 | Sep 22 22:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[copiesofcopies/@copiesofcopies] I'm confused. Is there a "Like" feature separate from the "Favorite" feature (which has always existed)? | Sep 22 22:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Libya military site yields possible radioactive material http://identi.ca/url/53842409 | Sep 22 22:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Movie-industry self-piracy proves that IP addresses aren’t people, invalidates copyright enforcement schemes http://identi.ca/url/53842410 | Sep 22 22:22 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Santorum demands Google to unremember “frothy mix result,” Google tells him to get bent – Boing Boing .::. Size~: 21.31 KB | Sep 22 22:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Libya military site yields possible radioactive material - CNN.com .::. Size~: 73.65 KB | Sep 22 22:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Movie-industry self-piracy proves that IP addresses aren’t people, invalidates copyright enforcement schemes – Boing Boing .::. Size~: 23.09 KB | Sep 22 22:22 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @stav: ... impressive! Samsung Unveils Flexible AMOLED Display in #Skin !Android !Smartphone. Yes, I said _flexible_ http://ur1.ca/55h4y | Sep 22 22:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] The World of Mind Control Through the Eyes of an Artist with 13 Alter Personas | The Vigilant Citizen| #xfiles http://goo.gl/4AIZe | Sep 22 22:26 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] !FOSDEM 2012 flight and hotel booked. See ya there! | Sep 22 22:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] :) | Sep 22 22:36 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] turtle braised in wine | Sep 22 22:37 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Thursday's security updates http://lwn.net/Articles/459985/rss | Sep 22 22:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Banshee 2.2 released http://lwn.net/Articles/460057/rss | Sep 22 22:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] PacketFence 3.0 released http://lwn.net/Articles/460062/rss | Sep 22 22:41 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Got another "Dear Friend of Diaspora*" email #diaspora !heehaw | Sep 22 22:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] Will be staying by Saint Nicolas Hôtel, very near to La Beurse. !fosdem 2012 | Sep 22 22:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] Poll: Are you going to FOSDEM 2012? http://identi.ca/main/poll/301b1426-0ef0-4e9b-935b-ff67d64fbb99 | Sep 22 22:52 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: ruiseabra's poll: Are you going to FOSDEM 2012? - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 10.51 KB | Sep 22 22:52 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] Poll: Are you going to !FOSDEM 2012? http://identi.ca/main/poll/f5df1971-16fe-4be8-a293-6969a77b6be3 | Sep 22 22:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] voted for "Hell yeah!" | Sep 22 22:54 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: ruiseabra's poll: Are you going to !FOSDEM 2012? - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 10.77 KB | Sep 22 22:54 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] !Ubuntu 11.10 Oneiric Ocelot Beta 2 Ready For Download [Video] http://identi.ca/url/53842588 | Sep 22 22:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] this article has one of those brilliant eye catching titles, but seems to have little substance | Sep 22 22:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] today I caused, reproducibly, a node to perform a large_restart :D | Sep 22 22:57 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Ubuntu 11.10 Oneiric Ocelot Beta 2 Ready For Download [Video] ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog .::. Size~: 70.22 KB | Sep 22 22:57 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] complains of 2 apple store bans which were banned not b/c christian, but b/c treating homosexuality as disease. | Sep 22 22:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] then about google censoring terms in CHINA, then a copyright takedown on sketchy grounds, which they do all the time anyway | Sep 22 22:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] facebook against anti homosexuality, there is a mention of a possibly valid complaint of refusing pro-life ad... | Sep 22 23:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] of course please note that the refusal of the ad is very likely completely legal, and I can near guarantee that it was refused [cont] | Sep 22 23:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] for advocating bans of abortion, not for being christian. | Sep 22 23:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] sorry for spamming everyone there, I blame 140 char limit(and not knowing how long explaination would take) | Sep 22 23:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[kernellog2/@kernellog2] Coming in 3.1 (Part 4) - Drivers http://t.co/xio0RdxO | Sep 22 23:09 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Sep 22 23:09 |
| _Goblin | schestowitz: good show.... | Sep 22 23:10 |
| _Goblin | schestowitz: now....when did you say you were joining Diaspora? | Sep 22 23:10 |
| _Goblin | ;) | Sep 22 23:10 |
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| schestowitz | m? | Sep 22 23:11 |
| http://www.ofr.gov/(S(wvihn4yrqm5igye4ikqrs5ja))/OFRUpload/OFRData/2011-24259_PI.pdf | Sep 22 23:11 | |
| schestowitz | me? | Sep 22 23:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting application/pdf type | Sep 22 23:12 |
| FCC issues net neutrality rules | Sep 22 23:12 | |
| schestowitz | brb | Sep 22 23:12 |
| schestowitz | rfditing | Sep 22 23:12 |
| schestowitz | oh shoot... I forgot to make blog posts today | Sep 22 23:12 |
| bang! | Sep 22 23:12 | |
| schestowitz | I'll make some tonight maybe | Sep 22 23:13 |
| schestowitz | my colleague maioled me, no idea what about | Sep 22 23:13 |
| schestowitz | while encoding I can catch up | Sep 22 23:13 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: re "thank you gor downloading" | Sep 22 23:17 |
| schestowitz | Remember some people stream it | Sep 22 23:17 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] so is eating shrimp, that should've been dumped forever ago | Sep 22 23:17 | |
| _Goblin | still being downloaded.... | Sep 22 23:18 |
| _Goblin | in the spirit..... | Sep 22 23:18 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Statement on Julian Assange “autobiography” http://t.co/xmK7UDQc | Sep 22 23:32 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Sep 22 23:32 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @trisquel: http://www.reddit.com/r/trisquel/comments/koc36/free_your_computer_with_trisquel_50_article_and/ | Sep 22 23:46 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: "Free Your Computer with Trisquel 5.0", article and interview at The Thoughts Bubble : trisquel .::. Size~: 40.3 KB | Sep 22 23:46 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] It happens... I just spent a few minutes making sure I didn't manually double-post since it was working 15 hours ago :) | Sep 22 23:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] mt @DavidLepofsky NO #Hudak #accessibility pledge to 1.5 million people w/disabilities http://ur1.ca/55hns /v @TroutMcGee !OnPoli !ONelxn | Sep 22 23:52 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Canada News: Tories silent on accessibility improvements for disabled - thestar.com .::. Size~: 92.86 KB | Sep 22 23:52 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: true | Sep 22 23:55 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: encoding now | Sep 22 23:55 |
| schestowitz | The voume was OK, but you were louder than the rest | Sep 22 23:55 |
| schestowitz | So you rattle the place :-) | Sep 22 23:55 |
| schestowitz | You'll hear it when it's done encoding (overnight) | Sep 22 23:55 |
| schestowitz | I had an odd and very rare audacity freeze | Sep 22 23:55 |
| schestowitz | Second time ever | Sep 22 23:55 |
| schestowitz | I had one about 15 shows ago (the first time) | Sep 22 23:56 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] /me still misses identi.ca -> XMPP for archiving :-( @support, please don't forget to bring it back up! :-) | Sep 22 23:56 | |
| schestowitz | And audacity keeps copies as it goes along | Sep 22 23:56 |
| schestowitz | Even without the user saving it | Sep 22 23:56 |
| schestowitz | Very clever and prevents data loss very well | Sep 22 23:56 |
| schestowitz | took me 10 minutes to find one track | Sep 22 23:56 |
| schestowitz | had to find | grep something to see my own inability to see a song that was right there | Sep 22 23:56 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] mattl pushed 1 commit to foocorp/librefm:master http://identi.ca/url/53842853 http://identi.ca/url/53842895 | Sep 22 23:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @pensadorlouco Rock and hell - New Pensador Louco !webcomic - is.gd/FLkrf6 - !hq !comics | Sep 22 23:57 | |
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| schestowitz | twitter: I'll blog now | Sep 22 23:59 |
| schestowitz | wanna co-edit? | Sep 22 23:59 |
| schestowitz | would speed it up | Sep 22 23:59 |
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