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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] ♺ @carlzimmer: RT @Eaterofsun: Isn't it a bit weird that the NY Times now quotes XKCD in news reports? http://t.co/EqCF7k2PSep 25 00:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @samanthamf: A useful rape analogy http://ur1.ca/56i5tSep 25 00:03
TechrightsBot-trMissing content type. Ignoring.Sep 25 00:03
TechrightsBot-trTitle: A useful rape analogy .::. Size~: 85.07 KBSep 25 00:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] RT @reality If erected, I promise to appoint @x11r5 to several public offices, with hilarious consequences. #sitcom #erectrealitySep 25 00:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] My posts from !Diapora to Identica via Brdcst are duplicating. I'm not ticking the Accept without date field, any ideas @macno ?Sep 25 00:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] RT @JoeAlbertan: Please repost this story http://t.co/7RMSNp3e #ablib #ableg #abpoli #wrp #abndp #abparty #cfer #CLOUDSep 25 00:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Chevron tried to get Govt to kill off Ecuador trial, while smearing its rivals for 'corruption' http://t.co/ugWoQvNUSep 25 00:43
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DaemonFChttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_yx4VzVLWs&feature=featuredSep 25 00:44
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Jimi Hendrix - All Along The Watchtower Live! 1970       - YouTube .::. Size~: 87.32 KBSep 25 00:44
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Robert-1Hey Roy, are you in? Sep 25 00:51
schestowitzYes, hiSep 25 00:55
schestowitzhmm... seems like among MSIE user identica is declining somewhat http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/identi.caSep 25 00:55
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Identi.ca Site Info .::. Size~: 125.2 KBSep 25 00:55
*schestowitz tries to think of all the Roberts he knowsSep 25 00:56
Robert-1I Like how you have made the wikileaks part of techrightsSep 25 00:56
Robert-1actually, i am known as "None of your business" in COLASep 25 00:57
schestowitzahh..Sep 25 00:57
schestowitzok  thanksSep 25 00:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] Rolls Royce ripoff: Geely GE http://www.google.com/search?q=Geely+GE !OnlyInChinaSep 25 00:58
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Geely GE - Google Search .::. Size~: 139.87 KBSep 25 00:58
Robert-1the reason i am trying to contact you is that i have difficulty reading the wikileaks documents that you have posted on your siteSep 25 00:59
DaemonFChttp://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Malware-for-everyone-Aldi-Bot-at-a-discount-price-1346594.htmlSep 25 00:59
schestowitzin what sense are these difficult to read?Sep 25 00:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Malware for everyone - Aldi Bot at a discount price - The H Security: News and Features .::. Size~: 42.06 KBSep 25 00:59
schestowitzI can improve the templateSep 25 00:59
Robert-1there is a page layout problem that where the right third of the posted document is covered by the "places" sidebarSep 25 01:00
Robert-1it happens with both konquerer & Firefox 6 as well as Firefox3.5Sep 25 01:02
schestowitzI thought I had made the font small enoughSep 25 01:03
schestowitzMaybe a font zooming option?Sep 25 01:03
Robert-1i have a 1024x768 png screenshot available if you could tell me where to send it Sep 25 01:03
Robert-1making the fonts s,aller would bea impediment to me as my eyesight is not that goodSep 25 01:04
schestowitzChecking it in chroium nowSep 25 01:05
schestowitzWorks ok there as wellSep 25 01:05
schestowitzI tried making the fonts smaller to fitSep 25 01:05
schestowitzbut they already inherited the minimum valueSep 25 01:05
schestowitzI think lower than 07 it would not takeSep 25 01:05
schestowitzAnd I can't flatted paragraphsSep 25 01:06
schestowitzThat would tamper with the evidenceSep 25 01:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Hard-Use Survival Pouch from Gravitas Leatherworks, Equip 2 Endure - YouTube #edc http://ur1.ca/56japSep 25 01:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Hard-Use Survival Pouch from Gravitas Leatherworks, Equip 2 Endure       - YouTube .::. Size~: 103.82 KBSep 25 01:06
Robert-1well, can you also place a link pointing to a page with nothing but the document,or a pdf fileSep 25 01:06
Robert-1on that same page? Sep 25 01:10
schestowitzit would require changing all the old pagesSep 25 01:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] US Con Job - #Wikileaks -- a Big Dangerous US Government Con Job - #xfiles http://goo.gl/VNhe4Sep 25 01:13
schestowitzthere is no PDF version, eitherSep 25 01:13
TechrightsBot-trTitle: US Con Job .::. Size~: 26.82 KBSep 25 01:13
schestowitzBest thing to do is highlight the text and then paste it in an editorSep 25 01:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Una pizca de Desmontando #Wikileaks – Daniel Estulin - http://goo.gl/h9wTASep 25 01:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Una pizca de Desmontando Wikileaks – Daniel Estulin » Página Oficial de Daniel Estulin. Autor Club Bilderberg, Conspiración Octopus, Imperio Invisible, Los señores de las sombras, Shadow Masters, Bilderberg group. .::. Size~: 131.69 KBSep 25 01:14
Robert-1the problem with that is that the right third of the document is covered with the "Places" sidebar, including the words., even with the page "zoomed" outSep 25 01:16
Robert-1in other words, i cannot copy all of the words as the ones on the right side of the document are not displayedSep 25 01:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] PETIÇÃO PELA SAÍDA IMEDIATA DAS TROPAS PORTUGUESAS DO AFEGANISTÃO Petition http://goo.gl/FZtTSep 25 01:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Updates on Libyan war/Stop #NATO news: September 24, 2011 « Stop NATO #mic #stateterrorism http://goo.gl/Bo0biSep 25 01:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: PETIÇÃO PELA SAÍDA IMEDIATA DAS TROPAS PORTUGUESAS DO AFEGANISTÃO  Petition .::. Size~: 12.39 KBSep 25 01:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Updates on Libyan war/Stop NATO news: September 24, 2011 « Stop NATO .::. Size~: 80.32 KBSep 25 01:21
XFaCEDaemonFC: Flick.Sep 25 01:23
DaemonFCborn again? fry her twice!Sep 25 01:23
DaemonFChuh, what?Sep 25 01:23
DaemonFCoh, sorry, I had a dream I was the governor of TexasSep 25 01:24
DaemonFC:)Sep 25 01:24
XFaCElolSep 25 01:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] RT @psquid You're all a bunch of bastards. That is all.Sep 25 01:26
XFaCEDaemonFC: Is there era dawning for a darker, more sinister DaemonFC?Sep 25 01:26
XFaCEKinda like those TV shows that get "darker"?Sep 25 01:26
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XFaCEDaemonFC: Never mind, random things float in my head.Sep 25 01:29
XFaCEThat's what I get for sleeping the night on the couch by accident.Sep 25 01:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Follow the Money: Behind the European Debt Crisis Lie More Bank Bailouts - #bankingsystem #nwo http://goo.gl/lnrcFSep 25 01:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle:   While I was cursing the inane mainstream commentary on the global  economy recently, I was reminded of a pivotal scene in the 1976 movie, All the  President’s Men. As two young reporters investigate the burglary of Democratic  Party offices in the Watergat .::. Size~: 26.64 KBSep 25 01:29
DaemonFCI don't think I could get any darker, unless you want me to turn into a heroin junkieSep 25 01:29
DaemonFCis that what you want? :PSep 25 01:30
XFaCEDaemonFC: I'm thinking more of the new joker old joker kinda comparisonSep 25 01:30
XFaCEDaemonFC: You're clownish, but not that dark.Sep 25 01:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Interesting; this seems to relate to a critique I have of @bkuhn's talks on network services freedom. #trulynotatrollSep 25 01:33
DaemonFCboredSep 25 01:33
DaemonFCdecided to go to Yahoo mailSep 25 01:33
DaemonFCand delete 1200 spamsSep 25 01:33
DaemonFCwell, 1208 to be preciseSep 25 01:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] "Só que esta ilha não é a Madeira “despesista”: é São Miguel, nos Açores." « BLASFÉMIAS - #PT #criminosos http://goo.gl/bY8B9Sep 25 01:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Não tapemos o Sol com uma Madeira   « BLASFÉMIAS .::. Size~: 122.64 KBSep 25 01:34
DaemonFCAlmighty_Bible_for_KidsSep 25 01:35
DaemonFCSep 25 01:35
DaemonFCAre_your_children_Christian?_You_need_to_see_this.Sep 25 01:35
DaemonFCMon, 4/4/1111KBSep 25 01:35
DaemonFC:)Sep 25 01:35
DaemonFCI don't know what Jabba's faith isSep 25 01:35
DaemonFChe doesn't tell me these thingsSep 25 01:35
DaemonFCI'm afraid he'll start doing.......marijuanSep 25 01:36
DaemonFC*aSep 25 01:36
DaemonFCwith all those alley catsSep 25 01:36
MinceRhttp://f.asset.soup.io/asset/2092/0847_310d.gifSep 25 01:40
TechrightsBot-trNot a web page! Aborting image/gif typeSep 25 01:40
XFaCEDaemonFC: Umm, Jabba the hutt?Sep 25 01:40
XFaCEWTF are you talking about?Sep 25 01:41
MinceRJabba the catt.Sep 25 01:41
DaemonFCmy catSep 25 01:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @floeff LibreOffice has won the award for the most popular software at the OpenWorld Forum in Paris: http://ur1.ca/56fhd !liboSep 25 01:44
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [libreoffice-marketing] Experiment awards at OWF .::. Size~: 6.7 KBSep 25 01:44
XFaCEI have softened my attitude towards cats.Sep 25 01:45
XFaCEBut only house cats.Sep 25 01:45
sebsebsebschestowitz: Is that first song in the Techbytes episode French?Sep 25 01:45
sebsebsebXFaCE: you can listen to me and Roy early :DSep 25 01:45
sebsebsebif you really wantSep 25 01:45
sebsebsebit's long though, over three hours, some music in it as well of courseSep 25 01:45
XFaCEAre you the only guest?Sep 25 01:45
sebsebsebXFaCE: yepSep 25 01:45
sebsebsebjust over three hours as well :DSep 25 01:46
sebsebsebXFaCE: no Tim, just Roy and meSep 25 01:46
XFaCESure, send me the prerelease. :)Sep 25 01:46
sebsebsebXFaCE: well schestowitz needs to put up the notes or whatever, but yeah it's onlineSep 25 01:46
sebsebsebXFaCE: http://techrights.org/TechBytes/techbytes0061.ogg  or go to http://techrights.org/TechBytes/ and then download the OGG or MP3Sep 25 01:48
TechrightsBot-trNot a web page! Aborting video/ogg typeSep 25 01:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Index of /TechBytes .::. Size~: 29.44 KBSep 25 01:48
DaemonFCI like catsSep 25 01:49
sebsebsebXFaCE: got it yet?Sep 25 01:52
XFaCEsebsebseb: web browser native OGG FTWSep 25 01:55
sebsebsebXFaCE: not if you lose the connectionSep 25 01:55
sebsebsebyou can't fast forward like thatSep 25 01:55
XFaCEsebsebseb: true, but not having to use any other program is good for my currently lazy selfSep 25 01:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] AccuWeather.com - Astronomy | The Supermoon Is Coming! The Supermoon Is Coming! http://goo.gl/30pHgSep 25 01:58
TechrightsBot-trTitle: AccuWeather.com - Astronomy | The Supermoon Is Coming! The Supermoon Is Coming! .::. Size~: 76.37 KBSep 25 01:58
XFaCEhow old are you sebsebseb?  And where are you from?Sep 25 01:58
XFaCEsebsebseb: I can't determine your accentSep 25 01:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] #TechBytes Episode 61: Sebastian on Mageia and the GNU/Linux Desktop http://is.gd/4A53UR recorded yesterdaySep 25 02:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[techbytes/@techbytes] TechBytes Episode 61: Sebastian on Mageia and the GNU/Linux Desktop http://is.gd/4A53UR recorded yesterdaySep 25 02:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: TechBytes Episode 61: Sebastian on Mageia and the GNU/Linux Desktop | Techrights .::. Size~: 118.95 KBSep 25 02:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: TechBytes Episode 61: Sebastian on Mageia and the GNU/Linux Desktop | Techrights .::. Size~: 118.95 KBSep 25 02:08
schestowitzsebsebseb: it's PortugueseSep 25 02:11
schestowitzgnSep 25 02:11
sebsebsebschestowitz: portuguese?Sep 25 02:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] "For the girl who's tired of waiting" #DrWhoSep 25 02:14
MinceRgnSep 25 02:38
amarsh04back in a few, loading new kernelSep 25 02:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] can anyone help with finding cardsharing for 113.0 E #CCcam !lazywebSep 25 02:46
DaemonFChttp://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2011/09/dead-squid-washing-ashore-on-orange-county-beaches.htmlSep 25 02:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Dead squid washing ashore on Orange County beaches - latimes.com .::. Size~: 85.34 KBSep 25 02:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @slargentina: Conozcan a "o11s", el proyecto para armar una red Wi-Fi gratuita en todo el mundo http://t.co/PSV4rQU0Sep 25 03:04
TechrightsBot-tr@: Sep 25 03:04
DaemonFCFirefox(v9.0a1) Scored:Sep 25 03:19
DaemonFC5474 PointsSep 25 03:19
DaemonFCSeaMonkey(v2.6a1) Scored:Sep 25 03:19
DaemonFC5316 PointsSep 25 03:19
DaemonFCnot a surpriseSep 25 03:20
DaemonFCsame engineSep 25 03:20
DaemonFCbut it does show that Firefox is not really fasterSep 25 03:20
DaemonFCOpera(v12.00) Scored:Sep 25 03:28
DaemonFC7531 PointsSep 25 03:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] free expression became introversion? #Chinese version of #mammamiaSep 25 03:48
DaemonFChttps://threatpost.com/en_us/blogs/new-mac-os-x-trojan-imuler-hides-inside-malicious-pdf-092311Sep 25 04:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle: New Mac OS X Trojan Imuler Hides Inside Malicious PDF | threatpost .::. Size~: 58.46 KBSep 25 04:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] VIDEOS: National Lawyers Guild estimates ~100 arrested at !OccupyWallStreet and peaceful protesters maced http://nd.gd/xeSep 25 05:43
TechrightsBot-trTitle: At least four arrested, one for shooting photos UPDATE: at least eighty arrested, five maced | RETRACTION: no tear gas used | OccupyWallSt.org .::. Size~: 107.63 KBSep 25 05:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] Hey !OccupyWallStreet if you are reading this on Twitter, get on !StatusNet and !Identica to avoid this type of censorship: http://nd.gd/xfSep 25 05:44
TechrightsBot-trTitle: #occupywallstreet, youranonnews:  And they say that... .::. Size~: 107.87 KBSep 25 05:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] RT @cwebber "jailed computing" not yet a popular term apparently, I hope we can make it so http://ur1.ca/56eso #UEFI #jailedcomputingSep 25 06:03
TechrightsBot-trTitle: "jailed computing" - Google Search .::. Size~: 101.9 KBSep 25 06:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] Yeah, just re-add them with the edit button on your profile page. @support should probably be made aware of this bugSep 25 06:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kernellogauthor/@kernellogauthor] kernel.org status http://bit.ly/oy3PRd "This new infrastructure will no longer have shell access to the git repositories; instead […]"Sep 25 07:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[freemjd/@freemjd] Personally, I'm after reassurance that I'm sane. Kindred spirits, whether you love them or are infuriated by them, are rare and precious.Sep 25 07:59
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schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/_Goblin/statuses/117773756562276352Sep 25 09:19
TechrightsBot-tr@_Goblin: @qubitarkhive Aww...that the best you can do? Missing #techrights are you? As Thistleweb said, you were exposed as the liar...Sep 25 09:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] EA's New User Agreement Bans Lawsuits - http://bit.ly/onYPPr surely they can't short-circuit the legal system in this way? #lawSep 25 09:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Get involved with the ORGZine! - http://bit.ly/q9v0Zg "taking our website to a whole new level with a new community-driven zine" #ukSep 25 09:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: EA's New User Agreement Bans Lawsuits - Slashdot .::. Size~: 141.34 KBSep 25 09:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Open Rights Group | Get involved with the ORGZine! .::. Size~: 11.96 KBSep 25 09:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Igniting a Polish internet revolution - http://bit.ly/p6ARQy interesting perspective on #poland from #googleSep 25 09:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: European Public Policy Blog: Igniting a Polish internet revolution .::. Size~: 36.03 KBSep 25 09:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #BodhiLinux 1.2.0 Review http://is.gd/TwnSGg "Bodhi comes with a minimal list of pre-installed applications"Sep 25 09:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Bodhi Linux 1.2.0 Review .::. Size~: 75.12 KBSep 25 09:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Monsanto wins lawsuit against Indiana soybean farmer - http://bit.ly/qQKdq1 more #genepatent insanitySep 25 09:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Monsanto wins lawsuit against Indiana soybean farmer | MNN - Mother Nature Network .::. Size~: 91 KBSep 25 09:38
schestowitzLOLSep 25 09:43
schestowitzLook at top bannerSep 25 09:43
schestowitzhttp://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/09/how-to-convert-ogv-avi-ubuntu/Sep 25 09:43
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [How To] Quickly Convert Ogv to Avi in Ubuntu | OMG! Ubuntu! .::. Size~: 75.82 KBSep 25 09:43
schestowitzomb Vista8!Sep 25 09:43
schestowitzLet's promote it...Sep 25 09:43
schestowitzand then moving from ogg to MPEG-LASep 25 09:43
iophkBanner: "Windows 8 {sic} : Linux-preventing boot saga rolls on…"Sep 25 09:44
schestowitzyeahSep 25 09:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] They make Mageia: Oliver Burger http://is.gd/Lw8EfW new TechBytes episode on !Mageia http://is.gd/lBVTIPSep 25 09:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Linux Portable Security 1.2.5 has been released! | LinuxOS from department of Defence http://is.gd/ZdHPaK #linux #dodSep 25 09:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle: They make Mageia: Oliver Burger | Mageia Blog (English) .::. Size~: 23.21 KBSep 25 09:55
TechrightsBot-trTitle: schestowitz.com  » Blog Archive   » TechBytes Episode on Mageia .::. Size~: 38.4 KBSep 25 09:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Analysis: Whitman's Tenure At HP Must Include Open-Source Investment http://is.gd/VW0C9n #hpSep 25 10:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Microsoft FUD[..]I could be wrong, but this sounds like the beginning of some sort of Redmond financed campaign to me." http://is.gd/TlMb6JSep 25 10:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Analysis: Whitman's Tenure At HP Must Include Open-Source Investment .::. Size~: 47.38 KBSep 25 10:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Phone 7 FUD, Windows 8 Lockout, Samsung Takes Off Gloves « FOSS Force .::. Size~: 89.87 KBSep 25 10:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Cheney: "Viele Insassen leben in Guantanamo besser als in Heimat" - http://bit.ly/nFHhgG with comforts like hot & cold running torture...Sep 25 10:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] HOPEN 2011 - Boot Meeting - http://bit.ly/pKaTOC meeting for new thinktank in #Roma: "Crediamo alla cultura aperta" #italySep 25 10:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Cheney: "Viele Insassen leben in Guantanamo besser als in Heimat" - USA - derStandard.at › International .::. Size~: 73.5 KBSep 25 10:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: HOPEN 2011 - Boot Meeting  - Innovation - P2p- Eventbrite .::. Size~: 58.47 KBSep 25 10:35
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/84253606Sep 25 11:07
TechrightsBot-tr@Christopher Allan Webber (cwebber)'s status on Saturday, 24-Sep-11 14:07:35 UTC - Identi.ca: "Jailed Computing"Sep 25 11:07
schestowitzCracked.. http://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-unveils-flexible-android-smartphone-24933/Sep 25 11:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: HackeD By TiGER-M@TE .::. Size~: 12.2 KBSep 25 11:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] NO: Ministry uses open source version control system http://is.gd/nnwiaD #norway #sharingSep 25 11:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: NO: Ministry uses open source version control system  — .::. Size~: 32.4 KBSep 25 11:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Android, A Major Step Towards Free Smartphones: Richard M Stallman http://is.gd/5BYcr5 a lot of people twist @rms words to inciteSep 25 11:18
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Android, A Major Step Towards Free Smartphones: Richard M Stallman | Muktware .::. Size~: 16.09 KBSep 25 11:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] TZAG IdentizensSep 25 11:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Watching Labour Party conference. It strikes me that the richer people are the harder they are to tax.Sep 25 11:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I have not seen you on Identi.ca for quite a while. If it your lack of attendance rather than mine welcome back.Sep 25 11:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Passed an ex in street yesterday from 12 years ago she still looked angry. Women are good at blaming the man no matter what has happened :(Sep 25 11:36
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/84263642Sep 25 11:45
TechrightsBot-tr@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Sunday, 25-Sep-11 09:30:14 UTC - Identi.ca: NYC/NBCUniversal Pro-Copyright Propaganda Contest For School Kids: Facts Not Allowed And Your Rights Don't Count http://is.gd/0l57FqSep 25 11:45
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: NYC/NBCUniversal Pro-Copyright Propaganda Contest For School Kids: Facts Not Allowed And Your Rights Don't Count | Techdirt .::. Size~: 172.3 KBSep 25 11:45
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/84263455Sep 25 11:45
TechrightsBot-tr@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Sunday, 25-Sep-11 09:13:07 UTC - Identi.ca: "the income of the very rich, the top 100th of 1 percent of the income distribution, rose by 480 percent." http://is.gd/pqaoaFSep 25 11:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Argentina v Scotland in the #rugby world cup. Very enjoyable game. Memorable try by the Argentinians.Sep 25 11:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Who are MCGIP (and Why are They Suing for Other People’s Movies?) - http://bit.ly/p7Ot7v oh, not another one... #copyrightSep 25 11:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Who are MCGIP (and Why are They Suing for Other People’s Movies?) | TorrentFreak .::. Size~: 34.12 KBSep 25 11:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] the #Ferenghi in #StarTrek seem to be a little bit of today's rampant exploitative capitalism as a contrast, still thriving in the futureSep 25 11:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I doubt if I have coined this word and will look it up in a minute. "Markolitics" #politics #marketing #branding #flannel #propagandaSep 25 11:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #OpenAccess Is Infrastructure, Not Religion - http://bit.ly/qbqskj "What’s wrong with old model is that it’s analog ...in a digital world"Sep 25 11:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Follow those Ikea footprints :)Sep 25 11:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] The only reference to markolitics I can find is a Twitter user of same name, but as he is Dutch I do not know if his thinking is the same.Sep 25 12:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Yes bollocks about describes things as they stand.Sep 25 12:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Not for the people who work there. #deathofleweekendSep 25 12:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Euclid Alone Has looked On Beauty Bare - http://bit.ly/pr0GA7 ooh, a sonnet about Euclid...alas, not a very good one #poetry #mathsSep 25 12:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Euclid Alone Has looked On Beauty Bare « In the Dark .::. Size~: 26.73 KBSep 25 12:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I have just remembered who it was @mennSep 25 12:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] (openuniverse)Sep 25 12:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Grand Prix racing has a bit of a problem when the interviews & build up are 10x more interesting than the event. That could just be me.Sep 25 12:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] This is funny, if a little obscure: I found it at http://ur1.ca/56q1k Purely by accident actuallySep 25 12:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] This is funny, if a little obscure: I found it at http://ur1.ca/56q1k Purely by accident actuallySep 25 12:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Making industrial quantities of curry sauce for freezing down.Sep 25 12:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] CC 4.0, an end to porting Creative Commons licenses? - http://bit.ly/qF7lIS good report on important matters #cc #licensing #copyrightSep 25 12:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Got many things done this morning....mowed lawn, helped hoover and still had time for writing. I'm on a roll!Sep 25 13:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @simonw @swardley Wow, BT is worth £20bn but the 75 million miles of copper cable they own is worth £50bn - http://bit.ly/nKqAx8 >>crazySep 25 14:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Drapes is the #Mono wallpaper rotator app, #DesktopNova does the same thing without Mono & lighter #TechBytesSep 25 14:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Attention metal thieves: Buy BT, get 75 MILLION miles of copper • The Register .::. Size~: 27.79 KBSep 25 14:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @schestowitz NO: Ministry uses open source version control system http://is.gd/nnwiaD #norway #sharingSep 25 14:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Women in #SaudiArabia 'to vote and run in elections' http://is.gd/Yo9okG aka Saudi notices there's a modern world & glances at itSep 25 14:03
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: BBC News - Women in Saudi Arabia 'to vote and run in elections' .::. Size~: 92.68 KBSep 25 14:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Those Who Can Dictate Truth From Lies, Dictate Everything - http://bit.ly/qxfLCT "For 99.9% of humanity, this is an enormous gain"Sep 25 14:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Neither one thing nor the other - http://bit.ly/qKEXE5 excellent meditation on publicness or otherwise of electoral register #opendataSep 25 14:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RD @thistleweb Women in #SaudiArabia 'to vote and run in elections' http://is.gd/Yo9okG aka Saudi notices there's a modern world & glancesSep 25 14:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Those Who Can Dictate Truth From Lies, Dictate Everything - Falkvinge on Infopolicy .::. Size~: 224.84 KBSep 25 14:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Neither one thing nor the other - honestlyreal .::. Size~: 34.07 KBSep 25 14:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RD @glynmoody @simonw @swardley BT's worth 20bn but 75 million miles of copper cable they own is worth 50bn - http://bit.ly/nKqAx8 << crazySep 25 14:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Attention metal thieves: Buy BT, get 75 MILLION miles of copper • The Register .::. Size~: 27.79 KBSep 25 14:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Nothing in the API. We changed the Web UI so that it's much less common to use @ in a reply. Client devs should use existing metadata.Sep 25 14:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] If there is one thing tastier than curry it is.... err nothing. Curry.. traditional English cooking via @india.Sep 25 14:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] This was genuine homemade Wiltshire curry ;-)Sep 25 14:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] He has several accounts, has he deleted them all?Sep 25 14:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Com Truise - Brokendate, the music video is a cross between Blade Runner, Tron, and Terminator http://identi.ca/url/53869934 !miotdSep 25 14:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxconfau/@linuxconfau] Missed the first keynote announcement?KAREN SANDLER, GNOME Director confirmed as first linux.conf.au #LCA2012 keynote http://t.co/SnRX6dIRSep 25 14:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] What does America's future look like, a timeline to Economic Collapse (NWO ECONOMICS series) - YouTube http://ur1.ca/56r2aSep 25 14:41
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iophkhttp://www.technologyreview.com/blog/mimssbits/27194/Sep 25 14:43
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cubezzzschestowitz, any motif program can use -bg and -fg to set coloursSep 25 14:44
cubezzzif you don't like the defaultsSep 25 14:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Good morning !identica (i think) !tzagSep 25 14:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Is it just me? I'm using the web interface and it is as though styles are turned off.Sep 25 14:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Oh, of course, as soon as i say that it comes back. #samethinghappenswhenitakethecartothemechanicSep 25 14:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Tzag, did you notice my Potemkin download link?Sep 25 14:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Was too tired to post today's !InconstantMoon serialization last night after helping sister move #imtoooldforthis so doing it now !silverSep 25 14:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] It's cool they found !mynovel serialization: rd @novelpublicity The Self-Published Author Daily is out! http://ur1.ca/56r5hSep 25 14:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Facebook: Making the World Safe for Music Subscription Services - http://bit.ly/q039ZJ good analysis; interesting implications for #itunesSep 25 14:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] With #Putin as president, #Russia’s experiment with democracy comes to an end - http://bit.ly/qp5wkq enter the russian strongman again...Sep 25 14:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] #Bitcoin given vote of confidence by Ben Bernanke 5 minutes before it became worthless.Sep 25 14:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] #new !Identica @support quite often I get "DB Error: already exists" message the first time i try to postSep 25 14:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Carlsberg stunts with bikers in cinema - YouTube #funny http://ur1.ca/56r6vSep 25 14:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I have had that once.Sep 25 15:01
cubezzzcan you not use # for comment in .Xdefaults ?Sep 25 15:05
cubezzzwrong channel :-/Sep 25 15:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Less than an hour until my favorite writing livechat on !Twitter ... #storycraft 11-12 am (got to get my chapter posted and make coffee)Sep 25 15:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] In the unlikely event that your son does not know how give me a shout.Sep 25 15:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Debt deal: anger and deceit has led the US into a billionaires' coup http://gu.com/p/3xvj9 #FoxNews #TeaPartySep 25 15:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I have heard of Koch he is becoming famous for being the man nobody is supposed to know that he is a self serving lobbyist.Sep 25 15:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] shopping (or worse, buying) will do that :)Sep 25 15:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Occupy Wall Street: 80 arrested in NYC, as Financial District protest moved north http://identi.ca/url/53870351Sep 25 15:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Johns Hopkins announces they've disrupted how HIV stops the immune system from attacking it http://identi.ca/url/53870363 !scienceSep 25 15:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] The Bull fighting ban in Catalonia probably has as much to do with regional politics as anything else.Sep 25 15:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] The Causes of Aircraft Accidents: What Happens in The Cockpit before The Crash http://goo.gl/t7ipCSep 25 15:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Pittsburgh police use dangerous sonic anti-personnel weapon against a peaceful protest without warning http://identi.ca/url/53870485Sep 25 15:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] My kitchen still smells of curry. In a full and joyous way.Sep 25 15:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @glynmoody: Those Who Can Dictate Truth From Lies Dictate Everything http://bit.ly/qxfLCT "For 99.9% of humanity this is an enormous gain"Sep 25 15:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] CrossTalk: Putin the Powerful - YouTube http://ur1.ca/56rq1Sep 25 15:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] The High Price Of Cheap #Food | Disinformation http://goo.gl/ORJMW /NYTimes http://goo.gl/Ae6m9Sep 25 16:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Get the workforce to fight amongst each other? That is hardly a new strategy.Sep 25 16:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !InconstantMoon serialization for Sunday posted: http://ur1.ca/56rsa !SelfPubSep 25 16:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] When a politician has had their moment in the sun they sell the connections they have to lobbyists. #buyingdemocracy. Anyone disagree?Sep 25 16:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Latin American Central Banks Turn To #Gold via @igeldard http://goo.gl/tc5P4Sep 25 16:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Economic #Collapse, Financial Manipulation and the Dollar Crisis - #usa http://goo.gl/hSKDASep 25 16:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Are citizens beginning to doubt all the benefits of rapidly progressing technology?Sep 25 16:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #usa - #NATO's War on #Libya is Directed against China: AFRICOM and the Threat to China's National Energy Security http://goo.gl/c4vQrSep 25 16:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: NATO's War on Libya is Directed against China: AFRICOM and the Threat to China's National Energy Security .::. Size~: 73.42 KBSep 25 16:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Novell’s Mono is Not Dead Yet http://is.gd/az3rdX #opensuse #suse #xamarin #pinta #bansheeSep 25 16:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] yay! ♻ @levl: Starting a Computer Company that sells computers with 100% Libre Software http://ur1.ca/56rr5 !gnullSep 25 16:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The Super-Rich Know Better http://is.gd/aezX1U #billgates #monopoly #educationSep 25 17:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] The Super-Rich Know Better http://is.gd/aezX1U #gatesfoundation #patents #edreform #usSep 25 17:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Better Lithium-Ion Batteries Are On The Way From Berkeley Lab « Berkeley Lab News Center http://goo.gl/FTS22Sep 25 17:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] GLOBAL WARMING - FACT OR FICTION? - YouTube #agw #scaremongering - http://ur1.ca/56sebSep 25 17:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Pirate Service Makes Textbook Rentals Last Forever | TorrentFreak http://goo.gl/BCkguSep 25 17:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] RT @levl !trisquel !fsf !gnu !linux Starting a Computer Company that sells computers with 100% Libre Software http://ur1.ca/56rr5Sep 25 17:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #agw #warmlist - A complete list of things caused by global warming - http://ur1.ca/2cfgqSep 25 17:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] The Parallel Universe of Patent Lawyers http://is.gd/cJL5zS #protectionism #patenting #uspto #acaciaSep 25 17:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The Parallel Universe of Patent Lawyers http://is.gd/cJL5zS #swpats #patent #iam #monopoly #epo #euSep 25 17:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Liliecii lui Băsescu http://ur1.ca/56sj9 #romania #monarchySep 25 17:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Regele nostru http://ur1.ca/56snm #rege #romania #monarchySep 25 17:34
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schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/84266738Sep 25 17:48
TechrightsBot-tr@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Sunday, 25-Sep-11 15:41:41 UTC - Identi.ca: Novell’s Mono is Not Dead Yet  http://is.gd/az3rdX #novell #mono #dotnetSep 25 17:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Windows Phone 7 Will Die With Silverlight http://is.gd/tC38Ls #WindowsPhone7 #wp7 #Silverlight #XAMLSep 25 17:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Labour still has a long way to go, says Ed Miliband http://gu.com/p/3269n some honesty over their own part in the economy would helpSep 25 18:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] anyone remember Miliband mention #Labour's 13yrs in govt as part of the ecconomic situation? Or all we hear is "it's all the Tories fault"Sep 25 18:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] still, the #LibDems weaved their fantasy land reading of today in their conference, #Labour did the same, so will the #ToriesSep 25 18:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] "we fucked up the economy before we were booted out, the other lot made it worse, vote for us to be a safe pair of hands" #LabourSep 25 18:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] it'd be an interesting party advert "we screwed the tax payer less than the other parties" - "our expenses theft wasn't as bad as theirs"Sep 25 18:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Zaraz, pogubiłem się. Ślązacy to "krypto-Niemcy", ale "zasługują na więcej"? http://rys.io/_000o !polska #wybory2011Sep 25 18:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks news update http://t.co/RIUKtBQSSep 25 18:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] I2P Anonymous Network - I2P #darknets #privacy #floss http://ur1.ca/56szbSep 25 18:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] "Eric ... has never seen the guy before, but he damned well recognizes that robe." ~ !InconstantMoon http://ur1.ca/56rsa !mynovelSep 25 18:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @usb333 Dear !Identica, please bring back threaded conversations. This linear mode kinda sucks.Sep 25 18:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] I just go another one @supportSep 25 18:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Jumping rope and 9/11 truth - how the sheeple have been trained to avoid unpopular truth about WTC 7 - #911 http://goo.gl/vqIYiSep 25 18:33
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schestowitzSheepleSep 25 18:39
schestowitzmehSep 25 18:39
_goblinHi RoySep 25 18:43
_goblinhaven't yet listened to ep 61...Ive been busy with an article on Sabayon 6 and Xfce...Sep 25 18:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @kevie If you want a real laugh then go to eBay and search for product no 180726587776 my sides are sore, ROFL > yes! http://ur1.ca/56tbkSep 25 18:44
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schestowitz_goblin: yeah, I gathered thatSep 25 18:45
schestowitzdoes lxny know?Sep 25 18:45
schestowitzhe used to camp in #distrowatchSep 25 18:46
_goblinI think he follows me on G+ or Identi.ca or something....I'm sure Ive chatted to him before.Sep 25 18:48
ThistleWebwas a decent show last nightSep 25 18:49
schestowitzThistleWeb: thanks :-)Sep 25 18:50
schestowitzWe missed Tim thoughSep 25 18:50
schestowitzHe told me the day before that if he's not around, then we can record anywaySep 25 18:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] On the desert trail of Tony Blair's millions - Telegraph #criminal #nwo - http://goo.gl/CAXtdSep 25 18:58
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/84267756Sep 25 19:06
TechrightsBot-tr@inscius (inscius)'s status on Sunday, 25-Sep-11 17:19:35 UTC - Identi.ca: The naive idolizing of #billgates is nothing short of creepy.Sep 25 19:06
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/84267849Sep 25 19:06
TechrightsBot-tr@laurelrusswurm (laurelrusswurm)'s status on Sunday, 25-Sep-11 17:29:45 UTC - Identi.ca: @inscius A big part is many think Gates' largesse needed.  Why does the state lack funds to educate? B/c corporations pay little/no tax?Sep 25 19:06
schestowitzDid you guys see  Fab Sh after he had shaved his head?Sep 25 19:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Videos show police brutality at Occupy Wall Street protests http://identi.ca/url/53872082Sep 25 19:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] może powinienem aplikować? byłbym przynajmniej obiektywny! :) ur1.ca/56tqaSep 25 19:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Welcome to the Data Retention Petition Campaign Drcampaign #eu #surveillance http://ur1.ca/56tqdSep 25 19:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] Sign the petition on Whitehouse.gov to abolish software patents. 5,000 signatures needed for the President to look at it: http://wh.gov/gEmSep 25 19:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @jonrog1 I study security for a living, and I had no idea that the TSA hiring practices were such a joke. via @wilw http://j.mp/ojaXVrSep 25 19:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @wayneborean Sign the petition on Whitehouse.gov to abolish software patents. 5,000 signatures needed for the President to look at it ...Sep 25 19:51
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/84268610Sep 25 19:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Correctores ortográficos — nova versão - Maracujá! #firefox #OOo #libreoffice #thunderbid http://ur1.ca/56tywSep 25 19:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] true.Sep 25 19:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Ok (whatever that means 8)Sep 25 20:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] OpenBytes: REVIEW: Sabayon 6 (Xfce) and a look at my migration away from Gnome. http://goo.gl/U6vXPSep 25 20:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] I am sure the #StatusNet 1.0 is great software, It just doesn't work for me :( Requires Javascript and doesn't work on Opera mini @nj3maSep 25 20:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] Who told #VLC to randomise my playlist???Sep 25 20:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] I don't know anymore, but it was not incompetence, it was clearly DRM (checked by professionals) She's my smart sister :)Sep 25 20:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @jessenovels Artist should not let the market/trend repress them. Always think 4 yourself be able to bring a new era into the art worldSep 25 20:28
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sebsebsebhiSep 25 20:30
_goblinhelloSep 25 20:32
schestowitzhiSep 25 20:32
sebsebseb_goblin: schestowitz HiSep 25 20:35
sebsebseb_goblin: heard it yet?Sep 25 20:35
ThistleWebsebsebseb: good show btw, ya dun goodSep 25 20:35
sebsebsebThistleWeb: Did you listen to the whole thing?Sep 25 20:35
ThistleWebyeahSep 25 20:35
sebsebsebcool :)Sep 25 20:36
ThistleWebit was kinda long thoughSep 25 20:36
sebsebsebindeed it wasSep 25 20:36
sebsebsebThistleWeb: plus I found it hard to  say stuff, because Roy kept on going on :DSep 25 20:36
sebsebsebat firstSep 25 20:36
sebsebsebhence the bits where I Like half say something at the beginingSep 25 20:36
ThistleWebthere was only the two of you, dead air is awkward, roy was trying not to put you on the spotSep 25 20:37
sebsebsebdead air?Sep 25 20:38
ThistleWebsilenceSep 25 20:38
_goblinsebsebseb: listening nowSep 25 20:38
_goblinIm at 13:50Sep 25 20:38
_goblinminutes...not hoursSep 25 20:38
sebsebsebThistleWeb: long yes, but had a lot to say  reallySep 25 20:38
sebsebseb_goblin: heh yeahSep 25 20:38
ThistleWebsome people clam up or get nervous knowing they're being recorded, and that others will be listeningSep 25 20:38
ThistleWebtakes a bit of getting used to, to just go with itSep 25 20:39
sebsebsebThistleWeb: Mageia  and Mandriva tension question and answer hmm, but other then that, it's pretty much all fine I guessSep 25 20:39
ThistleWebhardest thing I found when doing audio and screencast stuff was getting used to the sound of my own voiceSep 25 20:40
sebsebsebyeah indeedSep 25 20:40
sebsebsebwell I was doing some Google Talk with someone quite a lot,  and then Skype with my friend from school the other nightSep 25 20:40
ThistleWebvery few people like the sound of their own voice, but ya have to just get passed itSep 25 20:40
sebsebsebso I been getting a bit more used to listening to my own voice, but yeah I am still not that keen on it, when I hear it myselfSep 25 20:41
ThistleWebin reality, very few people sound as bad as they think they do themslevesSep 25 20:41
sebsebseb,but yeah I was recording quite a lot of the other stuff I had been doing recently,  and other person new,  just you know personal recordingsSep 25 20:41
ThistleWebmusic was pretty decent on that ep tooSep 25 20:42
sebsebsebI didn't really like the first song that much it seems, but the other two  I did more :)Sep 25 20:42
ThistleWebwell, _goblin won't approveSep 25 20:42
ThistleWebyeah the 1st wan't greatSep 25 20:42
sebsebsebThistleWeb: What since it's not metal you mean? heh hehSep 25 20:42
ThistleWebexactlySep 25 20:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Hoyt H. Buck and the History of Buck Knives | WV Outpost #edc #knives #bushcraft http://goo.gl/13bhkSep 25 20:43
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_goblinapprove? If its it not metal I damn!!!Sep 25 20:43
sebsebseb_goblin: schestowitz Now I wonder when that Mageia founder will go on, the one from Scotland, the one who agreed to going on some time.Sep 25 20:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is kevie with 61 dents!Sep 25 20:45
_goblinsebsebseb: I'm trying to think who you sound a little like....Sep 25 20:45
_goblinsebsebseb: I think you sound a little like Jono.....Sep 25 20:46
sebsebseb_goblin: maybeSep 25 20:46
sebsebsebwell he's also from UKSep 25 20:46
sebsebsebEnglandSep 25 20:46
ThistleWebmy little bacon? the new range of toys from canonicalSep 25 20:46
sebsebseb_goblin: well he used to live in midlands, which isn't really that far away form her if going in a car up the motorway yeahSep 25 20:47
sebsebsebhere, not her, aboveSep 25 20:47
_goblinSort of spinning off topic now...Sep 25 20:47
_goblinloving Xfce to bits....fantastic.Sep 25 20:47
sebsebseb_goblin: ohSep 25 20:48
_goblinaaahhhhSep 25 20:48
_goblin"Windows is fine for shutdown" ??????Sep 25 20:48
_goblinreally?Sep 25 20:48
sebsebseb_goblin: heh hehSep 25 20:48
_goblinlolSep 25 20:48
_goblinif you use a hammer it shuts down immediatelySep 25 20:48
ThistleWebxfce panel can do transparent btwSep 25 20:48
_goblinotherwise it grinds away for a good couple of minutes..Sep 25 20:48
ThistleWebit's just iffySep 25 20:48
_goblinThistleWeb: can it? How? wheres the option?Sep 25 20:49
ThistleWebright click on the panel and check the prefsSep 25 20:49
_goblinI'Sep 25 20:49
ThistleWebthere's an option for a background image, from theme (thats default) or transparantSep 25 20:49
ThistleWeblast I checked, the buttons, icons, applets etc didn't do transparency, but the panel itself doesSep 25 20:50
_goblinYeah...its giving me issues...Sep 25 20:50
ThistleWebhence the "iffy"Sep 25 20:50
ThistleWebbut technically speaking it does allow transparencySep 25 20:50
ThistleWebyou know you can use icons from gnome in xfce rightSep 25 20:51
ThistleWebI saw your review and screenshot, those icons are the default fallback gnome onesSep 25 20:51
*ThistleWeb has a faenza dark blue pack stored to throw into /usr/share/icons in every installSep 25 20:52
_goblinlolSep 25 20:52
_goblinyeah...its allows it...you just can't have it!Sep 25 20:52
_goblinIve moved the slider again just to double check....Sep 25 20:52
_goblinnope....no change....Sep 25 20:52
ThistleWebthe downside is that those dark blue icons are for dark panels which I don't always have so they sometimes fade into the panelSep 25 20:53
ThistleWebyeah it's iffySep 25 20:53
MinceRit would be nice if the xfce panel could have only its background transparent, not the stuff on itSep 25 20:54
ThistleWebI can't remember, but maybe you could select a colour and just bump the alpha right downSep 25 20:54
MinceRi'll checkSep 25 20:54
ThistleWebMinceR: that's how it currently works I think, the problem is that things like the apps menu is solid, the system tray is solidSep 25 20:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Ron Paul: Black THIS Out Media Cover Up - YouTube http://ur1.ca/56uiwSep 25 20:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @laurelrusswurm: Software/manufacturers should NOT have right to decide people are breaking laws.Sep 25 20:55
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ThistleWebproper transparency to me, is keeping the text, icons etc visible, but removing the backgroundSep 25 20:55
MinceRunfortunately, there's no alpha part to the solid color optionSep 25 20:55
MinceRthen again, maybe the background image can have an alpha channelSep 25 20:55
_goblinyep...either way though....the slider does not seem to effect anything....Sep 25 20:56
ThistleWebthe xfce 4.8 panel does look odd with some themesSep 25 20:56
ThistleWebactually, good pointSep 25 20:56
ThistleWebcreate a transparent .png and use thatSep 25 20:56
_goblinI'm going to fiddle though, I think I know the issue here.Sep 25 20:56
ThistleWebit doesn't know, it's just told to use that imageSep 25 20:56
ThistleWebdoes sabyon xfce have network browsing in thunar?Sep 25 20:58
ThistleWebthe only 4.8 distro I saw with that done right was xubuntu 1.04Sep 25 20:58
ThistleWeb11.04Sep 25 20:58
sebsebseb_goblin: Still listening where are you now in it?Sep 25 20:59
_goblinThistleWeb: I beleive it doesSep 25 20:59
_goblinsebsebseb: 35:02Sep 25 20:59
ThistleWebthat was a funky new addition in 4.8Sep 25 20:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Watching Dimbleby doing a hatchet job on Venezuela and Chavez much as you would expect the BPC to do on Cuba and Raul. Disappointing !TZAF.Sep 25 21:00
ThistleWeba lot of xfce does improve in very subtle ways that just add more usability and depth in areas you don't expect, they don't even shout about itSep 25 21:00
_goblinsince Wolvix I never really gave it much attention...Sep 25 21:04
_goblinbut I'm so pleased I have now.....Sep 25 21:04
_goblinRistretto - a god awful package and a strange choice for default viewer...its as laggy as hell on my quad core.... it was quickly replaced with eog.Sep 25 21:05
_goblinsebsebseb: schestowitz  I laway from the audiocast for one episode and you have some godawful music....... the first track sounds like it should have been played in the Cantina on Tatooine from StarWars...Sep 25 21:06
_goblin*I wasSep 25 21:07
sebsebseb_goblin: yep I don't like the first track eitherSep 25 21:07
sebsebsebor ThistleWeb it seemsSep 25 21:07
schestowitz_goblin: LOL :-)Sep 25 21:07
MinceRapparently the alpha channel is ignored (at least in 4.8)Sep 25 21:08
sebsebsebMinceR: alpha channel of what?Sep 25 21:08
schestowitzit's uust an alphaSep 25 21:08
schestowitzGive it time :-)Sep 25 21:08
MinceRof the panel background imageSep 25 21:08
schestowitzalpha channel... what Microsoft( IE6) calls "white"Sep 25 21:09
MinceR:>Sep 25 21:09
schestowitzit's great, as the value of alphs does not affect the whitenessSep 25 21:09
_goblinsebsebseb: Just one question....what distro are you currently using? Theres been so many on discussion I sort of missed that bit...Sep 25 21:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] Should I go to #HonkFest and Occupy !Boston this weekend, or haul ass down to !NYC for !OccupyWallStreet ?Sep 25 21:10
schestowitzyou can choose between white and whiteSep 25 21:10
sebsebseb_goblin: I mention my current set up a bit later on in the audiocast anyway :DSep 25 21:10
_goblinahSep 25 21:10
_goblincoolSep 25 21:10
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_goblinRight...I think, I will play the rest later Sebsebseb - yep enjoying your contribution....great stuff.Sep 25 21:15
sebsebseb_goblin: afterwoulds I have been thinking about a few things I could have also said,  but it's long enough anyway really :DSep 25 21:15
_goblinnow its time for AlestormSep 25 21:15
sebsebseb_goblin: what's that? a game?Sep 25 21:15
_goblinI don't think I can take another dodgy music break on TB!Sep 25 21:15
_goblinno a bandSep 25 21:15
sebsebseb_goblin:  the next to songs are nicerSep 25 21:15
sebsebsebtwoSep 25 21:15
sebsebsebthen we got the extra hour or so at the end without a song hmm, but one at the very endSep 25 21:16
_goblinI jest...they are not that bad...but I don't now tend to listen to the shows...its only because I wasn't in this one that I'm listening to it....Sep 25 21:16
sebsebseb_goblin: yep of courseSep 25 21:17
_goblingod only knows what Music tracks Roy's been sticking in the episodes Ive been on..... ;)Sep 25 21:17
sebsebseb_goblin: normally they are quite nice in my opinon, but sometimes not that great, dependsSep 25 21:17
_goblinI suppose it depends if I contribute them or not..... ;)Sep 25 21:17
_goblinCurrently listening to "Heavy Metal Pirates" - Alestorm ------> thats what we need on TechBytes!Sep 25 21:19
sebsebseb_goblin: i like metal :DSep 25 21:19
sebsebsebwell depends what it is, but yeah power metal I quite likeSep 25 21:19
sebsebsebfor exampleSep 25 21:19
sebsebseband death metal here and there, and yeah :DSep 25 21:20
_goblinPlease please don't say you like.....Sep 25 21:20
_goblinSlipnotSep 25 21:20
*MinceR is listening to: Irvin Feat. Emilie - SpektrumSep 25 21:20
_goblinis that Latin? ;)Sep 25 21:21
MinceRnopeSep 25 21:21
sebsebseb_goblin: nope I don't really like Slipnot much, but I do quite like Cradle Of Filth, depending on the songSep 25 21:21
_goblinIrvin Feat Emile?Sep 25 21:21
_goblinI jest...Sep 25 21:21
_goblinsebsebseb:  CoFSep 25 21:21
_goblinyep great stuff...Sep 25 21:21
_goblinDanny Filth lives very close to me.Sep 25 21:22
sebsebseb_goblin: ohSep 25 21:22
*MinceR too likes Cradle of FilthSep 25 21:22
_goblin:)Sep 25 21:23
sebsebsebwell teh guy I mention in the audiocast without nameSep 25 21:24
sebsebsebwho like got me into stuffSep 25 21:24
_goblinBest track..?Sep 25 21:24
sebsebsebhe really doesn't like Cradle of FilthSep 25 21:24
_goblinForest whispers my name...Sep 25 21:24
sebsebseb,but he likes stuff such as DeathSep 25 21:24
sebsebsebDeath oh, great death metal, and yep that's the name of the band, DeathSep 25 21:24
sebsebsebthen there's this Man Must Die that I heard on last.fm Scottish band, and I want to buy the CD's, but haven't yet, since it sounded quite like DEath to meSep 25 21:25
_goblinsort of spinning off on a tangent......Sep 25 21:26
_goblinmy site is getting an increasing amount of hits as a result of DuckDuckGoSep 25 21:26
_goblinhangfire...Sep 25 21:26
_goblinI'm back on the TB episode....Sep 25 21:26
_goblingot another music trackSep 25 21:27
_goblin....Sep 25 21:27
_goblinright...skipped that oneSep 25 21:28
schestowitzI choose music not based purely on tasteSep 25 21:29
_goblin:)Sep 25 21:29
_goblinno probs...Sep 25 21:29
schestowitzI have a pile of music that artists gave away for freeSep 25 21:29
schestowitzand I play these at randomSep 25 21:30
_goblinI am just as hard on comercial offeringsSep 25 21:30
schestowitzWhen something is decent I throw it into the 'for the shpw' pileSep 25 21:30
schestowitzand then I pick them at random, in no particular orderSep 25 21:30
schestowitzabout 20 left in the pile, which is not growing so fast anymoreSep 25 21:30
schestowitzcan you record tomorrow?Sep 25 21:30
_goblinyeah, don't see why notSep 25 21:31
_goblinafter 8pm thoughSep 25 21:31
_goblinif thats okSep 25 21:31
schestowitzcoolSep 25 21:31
_goblinah...just heard my named mentioned...better skip back and listen againSep 25 21:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Back to Beauty Basics: Homemade Facial Recipes | Ettia's Beauty Blog #natural http://goo.gl/wvtTQSep 25 21:31
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sebsebseb_goblin:  your name mentioned, you mean in the audiocast episode or?Sep 25 21:34
schestowitzwe stick with the same theme song in season/year two, right?Sep 25 21:35
schestowitzIt has become the song it's all recognised bySep 25 21:36
schestowitzfunny thing is..Sep 25 21:36
schestowitzmy sister listens to the show and thought I was Tom SmithSep 25 21:36
schestowitzLike singing the theme song. I thought she was crazy.Sep 25 21:36
schestowitzDoesn't sound remotely like either me nor timSep 25 21:37
_goblinlol....someone said the same thing to me!Sep 25 21:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @zahra: I didn't like #Java so far. So donkey.Sep 25 21:40
_goblinI think it was more of a "was that you" rather than a "that sounds like you" Sep 25 21:40
schestowitzCan't remember how this was said to me, but anyone I guess it should be flattering to sound like Tim Smith [sic]Sep 25 21:40
_goblinsebsebseb: My name was mentioned in relation to statusnetSep 25 21:41
_goblinsebsebseb: there are parts where it sounds like a flying saucer is hovering behind you.......:)Sep 25 21:42
sebsebseb_goblin: there's a part where, it sounds like guitar in the background or somethingSep 25 21:42
sebsebseb_goblin: ,but it was the night, my little brother has a guitar, but I don't think he was playing itSep 25 21:42
_goblinnah...space shipSep 25 21:43
_goblinre: those polls on denti.....Sep 25 21:43
sebsebseb_goblin: yeah not sure about that  noise, where that came fromSep 25 21:43
_goblinyou just know that they are going to be abused by those who wish to troll/flame...Sep 25 21:43
sebsebseb_goblin:  someone who,  it seems was quite new to Identica, voted in my poll even it seems hmmSep 25 21:43
sebsebsebI think the  fake accounts will figure out how to vote in themSep 25 21:44
_goblinsebsebseb: Proxima Centauri..... I'm sure Ender would be able to tell you if he was here.Sep 25 21:44
sebsebsebif they haven't alreadySep 25 21:44
sebsebsebwhat was that?Sep 25 21:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @headphonica: YES! http://wheelmap.org/ > one of the coolest projects based off #cc licensed openstreetmapSep 25 21:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @jargon: what happened to @nj3ma. seems to have dropped off the face of the #identiverse --- Yeah, What happened?Sep 25 21:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] all I can do is sit here and weep at the beauty and magic that Mark Zuckerberg has brought to this world - http://bit.ly/oZJQPL wonderfulSep 25 21:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: All of life has been utterly, profoundly changed thanks to Facebook’s new features, and nothing will ever be the same, and all I can do is sit here and weep at the beauty and magic that Mark Zuckerberg has brought to this world | Real Dan Lyons Web Site .::. Size~: 179.38 KBSep 25 21:51
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/ntsarb/statuses/118048421281144832Sep 25 21:52
TechrightsBot-tr@ntsarb: Moving towards trusted computing should be with caution. http://t.co/q5OF4yCuSep 25 21:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] "War Crimes Palestinian Statehood Would Strip Israel of Immunity" #video http://goo.gl/BsWoCSep 25 21:53
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*schestowitz reads http://openbytes.wordpress.com/2011/09/25/review-sabayon-6-xfce-and-a-look-at-my-migration-away-from-gnome/Sep 25 21:56
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schestowitz:/Sep 25 21:56
schestowitzdown?Sep 25 21:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] No Wonder It's Criminalized: Marijuana Makes Tumors Shrink and Halts Their Growth | Before It's News #bigpharma http://goo.gl/cz7bxSep 25 21:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Medical #Marijuana - #Crohn's Disease #medicine http://goo.gl/8TOcT http://goo.gl/Ni2b0Sep 25 22:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Re:Farm the City - #preppers http://ur1.ca/56v9jSep 25 22:08
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mikechey roySep 25 22:12
schestowitzHey, MikeSep 25 22:12
schestowitzWhat's up?Sep 25 22:12
*mikec is now known as Guest53726Sep 25 22:12
schestowitzBTW, Joey does wine tasting in his apartmentSep 25 22:12
Guest53726how would you like to do the jerusalem marathon in march 2012?Sep 25 22:13
schestowitzHe asked if you'd comeSep 25 22:13
schestowitzwot?Sep 25 22:13
schestowitzToo far awaySep 25 22:13
schestowitzHow about no marathons?Sep 25 22:13
Guest53726but tit could be combined with a visit to haifa, i would like to goSep 25 22:13
schestowitzif you go there...Sep 25 22:14
Guest53726you can show me the best kebab emporiumsSep 25 22:14
Guest53726minus the angry cyclistsSep 25 22:15
schestowitzRusholme..Sep 25 22:15
schestowitzThat cyclist must still be looking for youSep 25 22:15
schestowitzGoing car by car trying to find the right licence plateSep 25 22:16
schestowitzThe curry mile had cops in itSep 25 22:16
Guest53726i had it covered all along with big roy in the passenger seatSep 25 22:16
Guest53726no fearSep 25 22:16
schestowitzyou're lucky you're no winpSep 25 22:16
Guest53726i would've commanded you to sit on him:)Sep 25 22:16
schestowitzOther cyclists would hav roaredSep 25 22:16
schestowitzhe saw he had no easy matchSep 25 22:17
schestowitzso he roared and ran away on his wheelsSep 25 22:17
schestowitzLike I said, never seen a fight in RusholmeSep 25 22:17
schestowitzThey don't even have people selling drugs there, AFAIK. Never seen such things..Sep 25 22:17
schestowitzIt's places like Moston I'd be more afraid to walk aroundSep 25 22:18
Guest53726its a great place isnt itSep 25 22:18
Guest53726yes moston is a bit naughtySep 25 22:18
schestowitzRusholme has dodgy people, but mostly harmless onesSep 25 22:18
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Guest53726so shall we have your 30th in the Bricklayers arms on Moston Lane?Sep 25 22:18
schestowitzit's Manchester's BostonSep 25 22:18
Guest53726like it:) lolSep 25 22:19
schestowitzWhere even Good Will Hunting will choose to stay outSep 25 22:19
Guest53726hahahaSep 25 22:19
schestowitzHe picks on fights in baskerball courts, not expecting people with knives and beerSep 25 22:19
schestowitz[22:18] <Guest53726> so shall we have your 30th in the Bricklayers arms on Moston Lane?Sep 25 22:19
Guest53726i have good will hunting on pc, what is it about?Sep 25 22:20
schestowitzWhat's that place?Sep 25 22:20
schestowitzGood Willing Hunting you mean?Sep 25 22:20
schestowitzYou watched part of itSep 25 22:20
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Guest53726so where are we having your 30th? how about a weekend in amsterdam, bring joey tooSep 25 22:20
schestowitzoh,y uo need to see thisSep 25 22:20
Guest53726or a weekend in blackpoolSep 25 22:20
schestowitz!google matt damon pailSep 25 22:20
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Matt Damon Legend of Bagger Vance | http://www.femail.com.au/ma_mattdamon.htmSep 25 22:20
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Parenting advice from Matt Damon - The Globe and Mail | http://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/the-hot-button/parenting-advice-from-matt-damon/article1769485/Sep 25 22:20
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Liberal Products from Boycottliberalism.com | http://www.boycottliberalism.com/boycottarchive.htmSep 25 22:20
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Western Movie Hats - The Last Best West | http://www.thelastbestwest.com/western_movie_hats.htmSep 25 22:20
schestowitz!google matt damon palinSep 25 22:21
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Matt Damon Rips Sarah Palin - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DC6urw_PWHYkSep 25 22:21
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Damon Condemns Palin - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3Danxkrm9uEJkSep 25 22:21
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Matt Damon: Sarah Palin Presidency Would Be Like a 'Really Bad ... | http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,420621,00.htmlSep 25 22:21
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Matt Damon On Palin: "Like A Really Bad Disney Movie... Totally ... | http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/10/matt-damon-on-palin-like_n_125334.htmlSep 25 22:21
Guest53726have you ever been to blackpoolSep 25 22:21
schestowitzNope, in winter?!Sep 25 22:21
schestowitzIt's like going to a ski resort in summer (which isn't too bad either, done that lots of times)Sep 25 22:21
Guest53726you just carpet bombed me again with videos to watch, i have the rest of my life to get on with you knowSep 25 22:22
Guest53726food ration books for the uk are being printed in sweden, off to asda tomorrowSep 25 22:23
schestowitzwatch the first videoSep 25 22:23
schestowitzit groups 4 related onesSep 25 22:23
schestowitzthere's lidi in newton heathSep 25 22:24
Guest53726i cannot chat on irc, play football mnager, surf the apocalypse and watch videos at the same time, something has to giveSep 25 22:24
schestowitznever been in yetSep 25 22:24
schestowitzis surfing the apocalypse still infiltrated with alien goons?Sep 25 22:24
Guest53726i can  take you to lidl tomorrow night, i need to stock upSep 25 22:24
schestowitzYou know, earlier  I saw something irksomeSep 25 22:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] Shit! Neighbour across the way has exactly the same music I have spent the last 3 months painstakingly collecting.Sep 25 22:25
schestowitzSomething about dilution and dispersion of criticsSep 25 22:25
schestowitzLike the vaccination thingSep 25 22:25
Guest53726 here is the link on ration books, as usual discernment is requiredSep 25 22:25
schestowitzPeople try to lump you in with hardcore anti-vaccination peopleSep 25 22:25
schestowitzEven if you make a criticism not at all this radicalSep 25 22:25
schestowitzThis devalues those who are valid criticissSep 25 22:25
schestowitzSame is done re global warmingSep 25 22:25
schestowitzTrying to associate it only with rich aristocrats like GoreSep 25 22:26
schestowitzSo scientists lose their representation on this...Sep 25 22:26
schestowitzand people who speak about other life being probable are discouraged tooSep 25 22:26
schestowitz!google stephen hawking alien crankSep 25 22:26
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Primitive Alien Life May Exist, Stephen Hawking Says | Space.com | http://www.space.com/5266-primitive-alien-life-exist-stephen-hawking.htmlSep 25 22:26
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Stephen Hawking - Wikiquote | http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Stephen_HawkingSep 25 22:26
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Stephen Hawking asks big questions about the universe | Video on ... | http://www.ted.com/talks/stephen_hawking_asks_big_questions_about_the_universe.htmlSep 25 22:26
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Time Travel? Aliens? Stephen Hawking Says Yes! - Associated ... | http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/2963008/time_travel_aliens_stephen_hawking.htmlSep 25 22:26
schestowitzHe abstained from even entertaining the positibility for fear of being called a crankSep 25 22:27
schestowitzLinus Pauling was labeled a crank after he started with his vitamin D theory boostingSep 25 22:27
schestowitz!google Linus Pauling  vitamin D Sep 25 22:27
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Vitamin D - Linus Pauling Institute at Oregon State University | http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/infocenter/vitamins/vitaminD/Sep 25 22:27
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - The Dark Side of Linus Pauling's Legacy | http://www.quackwatch.com/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/pauling.htmlSep 25 22:27
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Vitamin D expert receives Linus Pauling Prize for Health Research | http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2009-05/osu-vde051509.phpSep 25 22:27
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - The Vitamin C Foundation - The Source for Vitamin C Science | http://www.vitamincfoundation.org/Sep 25 22:27
Guest53726http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1647679/pg1Sep 25 22:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Millions of ration books printed for UK? .::. Size~: 86.26 KBSep 25 22:27
Guest53726better stock up on tuna roystonSep 25 22:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] "They're against street crime, providing that street isn't Wall Street." #GeorgeCarlin, talking about #Republicans ♺ @chriswaterguySep 25 22:28
schestowitzCan any boo sell this much?Sep 25 22:29
schestowitzThat's almost 1 in 10 familiesSep 25 22:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] myCrop is a farm strategic analysis and management application intended for amateur or professional farmers #floss http://goo.gl/qQQRiSep 25 22:30
TechrightsBot-trTitle: myCrop Project Site | Main / HomePage .::. Size~: 10.08 KBSep 25 22:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] GNUtrition - GNU Project - Free Software Foundation #floss #nutrition http://ur1.ca/56vgmSep 25 22:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: GNUtrition - GNU Project - Free Software Foundation .::. Size~: 16.05 KBSep 25 22:31
Guest53726hey roy, how do you fancy applying for an allotment with me, we can practice growing food and stuff Sep 25 22:34
Guest53726sarahs mum has one in londonSep 25 22:34
Guest53726she loves itSep 25 22:34
schestowitzgrowing food is uneconomicSep 25 22:36
schestowitzcubezzz does it thoughSep 25 22:36
schestowitzIt would cost more not just in terms of time to produce one's own food than to use industrial farming methods that streamline everythingSep 25 22:36
schestowitzI don't have garden/soil anyway...Sep 25 22:36
schestowitzI think that in small scale like that the food you grow with the sweat of your brows and all is jus about enough to motor your work around the gardemSep 25 22:37
schestowitzI've read about how farming methods are what made Europe so advancedSep 25 22:37
schestowitzAnd that in africa would would be preoccupied trying to keep themselves fedSep 25 22:38
schestowitzIf you don't have to worry about where you next meal comes from (or all of this year's meals), then you can practice studying and then carry on with research of new stuffSep 25 22:38
schestowitzSo there's the crowd which says that African was predisposed and bound to not foster innovationSep 25 22:39
schestowitzAnd nothing at all to do wth manetal capabilitySep 25 22:39
schestowitz http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrKrGkgeww4&feature=digest_refresh_thuSep 25 22:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I'm seeing a lot of group spam tonight. It seems to be a weekend thing, or I'm just around more to be annoyed by it :(Sep 25 22:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Do Human Races Exist?       - YouTube .::. Size~: 105.45 KBSep 25 22:40
schestowitzIt was published last weekSep 25 22:40
schestowitzMaking good points about the scale of cousinshipSep 25 22:40
Guest53726industrial farming methods are underpinned by cheap fossil fuelsSep 25 22:40
schestowitz400 years backwards for 20-year generations is about 1,000,000 ancestorsSep 25 22:40
schestowitzMinus the overlapSep 25 22:40
schestowitzSo that's how short a time we can diversify in, like dog breedsSep 25 22:41
schestowitzgo back to days of Alexandria and you almost certianly have common ancestors with everything else alive today (at least one)Sep 25 22:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @rikwes66: think European Commission will have a word or two to say about #Microsoft's secure boot « I certainly hope soSep 25 22:41
schestowitzSo it all happened quite recently in evolutionary termsSep 25 22:41
schestowitzDawkins have nice diagrams on itSep 25 22:41
schestowitz[22:40] <Guest53726> industrial farming methods are underpinned by cheap fossil fuelsSep 25 22:42
schestowitzFertilisers, tractors, and trucksSep 25 22:42
schestowitzI think these are the only vehicles(latter too) that really justify prioritising fossil fueld and giving it to themSep 25 22:42
schestowitzWe can dump many of the roadsSep 25 22:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Russian Leader Implies Japan Earthquake Was Triggered By Secret Weapon, Video | Before It's News http://goo.gl/txdZ5Sep 25 22:43
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schestowitzAnd leave them as arteries to key functions like food transportationSep 25 22:43
schestowitzA bit like the canal networksSep 25 22:43
schestowitzTech people to run rather than take the car to the gym and then use the treadmill for an hour :-) (using up electricity rather than generating any)Sep 25 22:44
Guest53726or having 3 monitors when you can split screen:)Sep 25 22:45
abeNd-orgwhat tech people actually have time for the gym?Sep 25 22:45
schestowitzMonitors don't take up much powerSep 25 22:45
schestowitzCompared to cars and treadmill for exampleSep 25 22:46
Guest53726you would say thatSep 25 22:46
schestowitzMy electric bill is only under 20 quid a monthSep 25 22:46
schestowitzabeNd-org: Linus goes I thinkSep 25 22:46
Guest53726doubt itSep 25 22:46
schestowitzBut some people can exercise at home toSep 25 22:46
schestowitzBut this way they don't meet peopleSep 25 22:46
abeNd-orgmorons wasting time at work on facebook waste more corporate $ and electricity than anything elseSep 25 22:46
schestowitzGuest53726: screens these days take up tend of wattsSep 25 22:47
schestowitzThey're like lampsSep 25 22:47
Guest53726yes i have a facebook moron opposite meSep 25 22:47
schestowitzand in a sense all the screens alrady are lamp supplantsSep 25 22:47
Guest53726every event is photographed and then publiscised on fbookSep 25 22:47
Guest53726big yawnSep 25 22:47
schestowitzSo it's like having a lamp that also displays dataSep 25 22:48
schestowitzGuest53726: ^-^Sep 25 22:48
abeNd-orgguest reasons like that are a perfect reason corporate environments should be filtered, security being a distant second :PSep 25 22:48
schestowitzSav da manSep 25 22:48
abeNd-orgi remember running my dual ppro200 overclocked to 233 and using that to heat my apartment in Michigan :)Sep 25 22:49
schestowitzfacebook didn't invent what it's having people do, to be fair to it..Sep 25 22:49
schestowitzIt just popularised it a little moreSep 25 22:49
Guest53726the century of the selfSep 25 22:50
schestowitzthe century of the sell, tooSep 25 22:50
schestowitzcnsumerismSep 25 22:50
Guest53726the big i amSep 25 22:50
schestowitz"What does Joe and jane have?"Sep 25 22:50
schestowitzif you don't consume much, you fail /sarcasmSep 25 22:50
schestowitzif you do spend a lot of money and make a lot of money, then you are a wonderful person /sarcasmSep 25 22:51
abeNd-orgforget eugenics by race, more like "is facebook more than 1% of your life?" "yes? you qualify for population control!"Sep 25 22:51
schestowitzMaybe some people use it as a dating siteSep 25 22:51
schestowitzI know some who didSep 25 22:51
schestowitzIn sites like social networks I reckon like 95% of the people I'm connected to are maleSep 25 22:52
schestowitzwhich is lameSep 25 22:52
Guest53726speech by ahmadinejad...worth a lookSep 25 22:52
Guest53726http://www.surfingtheapocalypse.net/forum/index.php?id=253689Sep 25 22:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Surfing The Apocalypse Network - AHMADINEJAD UNITED NATIONS SPEECH: FULL TEXT TRANSCRIPT .::. Size~: 32.25 KBSep 25 22:52
schestowitzdoes he writs his own speeches?Sep 25 22:52
abeNd-orgthe only contacts i have in my facebook are work relatedSep 25 22:52
schestowitzOr does he just read them like Neelie Kroes and Obama?Sep 25 22:52
schestowitz"Look at me! I'm so smart, I read a speech from my PA!! [thumps chest]"Sep 25 22:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Restart dbusSep 25 22:53
abeNd-org</bitter>Sep 25 22:53
schestowitzoh, you know how in Google they have 'cirlcesSep 25 22:53
schestowitzWith the supposed advantage of having privacy?Sep 25 22:53
schestowitznot mixing work with others?Sep 25 22:54
schestowitzWell..Sep 25 22:54
schestowitzIt's actually rhe opposite in a waySep 25 22:54
_goblinI've taken another break from ep61Sep 25 22:54
schestowitzThose with power over Google (subponea) now get yet more meadata on whom you know, work with, s****ed, etcSep 25 22:54
_goblinits been interesting to hear so far thoughSep 25 22:54
abeNd-orgmy facebook/twitter is just a repost for my website lolSep 25 22:54
schestowitzSame in LinkedIn, unless you just mark all as "friend"Sep 25 22:54
schestowitzOtherwise they want people to fill in how they are connectedSep 25 22:55
schestowitzabeNd-org: the feed?Sep 25 22:55
schestowitzI think that social networks are getting less participatorySep 25 22:55
schestowitzAs in, people wouid subscribe but not read, recycle, replySep 25 22:56
schestowitzmore of a dumping ground for more and more people's thoughtsSep 25 22:56
schestowitzthey turn from audience into producersSep 25 22:56
schestowitzUntil we move to a write-only cultureSep 25 22:56
schestowitzNot read-only (TV, radio)Sep 25 22:56
abeNd-orgyea, ive got some convoluted setup that posts my abend.org posts to my facebook/twitter accounts, im sure by now there are easier/better ways, but it was the easiest way i found when i set it upSep 25 22:57
schestowitzNor read/write (older web, inc. blogs with many comments on them, a la circa 2004)Sep 25 22:57
abeNd-orgi need to have it dump to my google+ tooSep 25 22:57
schestowitzLinkedIn connects with twitterSep 25 22:57
schestowitzso if you ste it up like this, you can add that tooSep 25 22:57
abeNd-orgyea, it is hard to get people to respond to posts in blogs, usually only in dedicated forumsSep 25 22:58
schestowitz!gogole gigaom blog recession schestowitzSep 25 22:58
abeNd-orgi was thinking of spamming my linkedin as well, i think i will leave that one alone, that one is "somewhat" professionalSep 25 22:58
schestowitz!google gigaom blog recession schestowitzSep 25 22:58
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Business Week, Blogs, and Business — Tech News and ... - GigaOM | http://gigaom.com/2005/04/25/business-week-blogs-and-business/Sep 25 22:58
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Windows 7 to Usher in Profitless Prosperity — Tech News ... - GigaOM | http://gigaom.com/2009/10/06/windows-7-to-usher-in-profitless-prosperity/Sep 25 22:58
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - 2009 February 18 | Techrights | http://techrights.org/2009/02/18/Sep 25 22:58
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Yet another rant at LinuxPlanet Blogs | http://www.linuxplanet.org/blogs/%3Fcat%3D1132Sep 25 22:58
schestowitzabeNd-org: many people are doing itSep 25 23:00
abeNd-orgi was going to do it to my myspace account, but it wasnt worth the effortSep 25 23:00
schestowitzIt's hardly spamming to just syndicate thereSep 25 23:00
abeNd-orgyea, i noticed people mirror their personal blog there recently, i might rethink itSep 25 23:00
schestowitzand they d encourage people to link in their twitter accountSep 25 23:00
schestowitzthat's web x.0 for youSep 25 23:00
schestowitzpeople broadcasting a lotSep 25 23:00
schestowitzAnd some sites derive phantom profiles based on other sitesSep 25 23:01
schestowitzlike xyidSep 25 23:01
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schestowitzor the many sites that mirror twitter accounts without asking youSep 25 23:01
schestowitzquora does that tooSep 25 23:01
schestowitzconnects you to friends from twitter based on the APISep 25 23:01
schestowitzthen they ask you to sign up to your own accountSep 25 23:02
schestowitzthe "Claim your own account" business model seems to have gained tractionSep 25 23:02
schestowitzYou'd find accounts of yours in sites you never signed up forSep 25 23:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] I did not find any #bedbugs.Sep 25 23:03
*ThistleWeb has quit (Quit: Ex-Chat)Sep 25 23:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Assange v. Sweden+UK - full appeal document http://t.co/xbvoeuBTSep 25 23:13
TechrightsBot-tr@: Sep 25 23:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laforge/@laforge] unsubscribing from two dozens of mailing lists of various foss projects that I'm not really following anymore...Sep 25 23:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Assange extradition judgement likely to be handed down in the next two weeks. Full details: htp://swedenversusassange.com/Sep 25 23:18
msbI see that "Snit1" is being allowed to lurk here, while "Snit" posted in COLA about 4 hours ago (and has been posting this stuff dozens of times for weeks): "I would like to see [Stallman] investigated and, as is likely, if he is found to have sexually abused children I would want him locked away"Sep 25 23:18
Diablo-D3I want him locked away for that outrageous beardSep 25 23:19
Diablo-D3Seriously, that is one epic unix beardSep 25 23:20
msbThat's in the (currently) 3rd message in this thread:  http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/browse_frm/thread/7f48febca51daecc#Sep 25 23:20
TechrightsBot-trTitle: comp.os.linux.advocacy |   Google Groups .::. Size~: 43.16 KBSep 25 23:20
Diablo-D3msb: protip: quit talking about colaSep 25 23:20
Diablo-D3its what microsoft wants you to doSep 25 23:20
msbDiablo-D3: Indeed, he is one of our patriarchs!Sep 25 23:20
schestowitzHis heckler has been seeing psychiatristsSep 25 23:21
schestowitzNuff saidSep 25 23:21
schestowitzDon't insult the mentally challenged that tries to feel normal by abusing RMSSep 25 23:22
schestowitzmsb: what's up anyway"?Sep 25 23:23
schestowitzYou don't post much in USENETSep 25 23:23
msbDiablo-D3: Ignoring the flood of anti-Linux propaganda from Microsoft doesn't make it go away, or have no effect on the thousands of visitors to COLA.Sep 25 23:23
Diablo-D3msb: actually, it does.Sep 25 23:23
Diablo-D3microsoft is no longer relevent.Sep 25 23:23
schestowitztrueSep 25 23:24
schestowitzit's going downwardsSep 25 23:24
Diablo-D3any attempt to acknowledge them just prolongs the inevitableSep 25 23:24
schestowitzAnd needs no assistance going downSep 25 23:24
Diablo-D3if they want to spam usenet, which no one uses anymore, let themSep 25 23:24
schestowitzthey leave a traill of employed microdronesSep 25 23:24
schestowitzWho then become trollwSep 25 23:24
schestowitzMaybe we should try to reform the microdronesSep 25 23:25
Diablo-D3schestowitz: why?Sep 25 23:25
schestowitzAnd show them that the net runs Linux and they too need to grow up and grow out of MicrosoftSep 25 23:25
Diablo-D3Why show them?Sep 25 23:25
schestowitzDiablo-D3: cause otherwise they annoy usSep 25 23:25
msbDesktop/laptop computers are still _very_ important.  That's where a lot of real creation gets done by people.  Much more than on mobile phones.Sep 25 23:25
Diablo-D3They don't annoy me, I don't know about you.Sep 25 23:25
schestowitzThere's some portion ogf COLA trolls who leftSep 25 23:25
schestowitzThey adopted Android and a lot of L9inuxSep 25 23:25
_goblinoh come on....we don't really believe that the newsgroup that cannot be named is being hit by Microsoft...I'm sure there are better (and ones read by the masses) that they can concentrate on....I think Microsoft would be very happy for people to be caged in that NG.....it means they are out of the way of the public....Sep 25 23:25
schestowitzThey couldn't really troll Linux anymoreSep 25 23:25
schestowitzThey got "assimilated"Sep 25 23:25
_goblineven Linux advocates and enthusiasts and people actually involved in FOSS don't read it....Sep 25 23:26
schestowitzwhat do they read?Sep 25 23:26
schestowitzthink about it..Sep 25 23:26
_goblinwhy on earth would Microsoft want to target that ......BTW my replies were at @diabloSep 25 23:26
Diablo-D3_goblin: Im not claiming thatSep 25 23:27
Diablo-D3msb and schestowitz areSep 25 23:27
schestowitz_goblin: I'll tell you the gap in tought. COLA gets indexed in mirrorsSep 25 23:27
Diablo-D3all I said is let them have cola, its not useful for people who advocate linuxSep 25 23:27
Diablo-D3linux noobs dont go thereSep 25 23:28
schestowitzAnd so whatever gets said that is reached though search engines, tooSep 25 23:28
Diablo-D3linux noobs _dont know what usenet is_Sep 25 23:28
schestowitzThe trolls can bias the information and characterise Linux advocacy as an illnessSep 25 23:28
Diablo-D3schestowitz: yes ,and let them trollSep 25 23:28
msbCOLA has 2478 subscribers through Google groups alone.Sep 25 23:28
Diablo-D3you cant stop trolling, its an impossible taskSep 25 23:28
schestowitzDiablo-D3: they don't need to access USENETSep 25 23:28
_goblinDiablo-D3: sorry...when you said "microsoft is no longer relevent." then followed with "if they want to spam usenet, which no one uses anymore, let them" - Meant that you thought MS spammed colaSep 25 23:28
Diablo-D3_goblin: no, Im just saying its completely irrelevant if they doSep 25 23:28
_goblinahSep 25 23:29
_goblinok...Sep 25 23:29
Diablo-D3if Microsoft can't produce a version of Windows that someone like me would use, then what hope do they have?Sep 25 23:29
_goblinyoure "noobs" point is changing...Sep 25 23:29
Diablo-D3Now, who knows, maybe Windows 8 is so good I leave Linux foreverSep 25 23:29
_goblintake a look at the binaries rise in popularity since BT was hit with speculative invoicingSep 25 23:29
msbClaiming that nobody uses Usenet anymore is wrong.Sep 25 23:29
Diablo-D3msb: I used to use Usenet when it was popularSep 25 23:29
Diablo-D3trust me, its deadSep 25 23:30
Diablo-D3"web 1.0" killed it.Sep 25 23:30
_goblinexcept for the binaries....Sep 25 23:30
Diablo-D3bittorrent killed the binary groups tooSep 25 23:30
_goblinreally?Sep 25 23:30
_goblinI think you will find theres a recent surge in popularitySep 25 23:30
_goblineven the big name blog trackers now have nzb linksSep 25 23:31
Diablo-D3_goblin: the statistics are wrongSep 25 23:31
Diablo-D3its not that MORE people use itSep 25 23:31
msbUsenet is the standard, canonical place for discussions on more than 100,000 topics.Sep 25 23:31
Diablo-D3its if MORE people use it and the percentage increase is more than the growth of bittorrentSep 25 23:31
_goblinwhat isn't wrong is that as I say, the big name "piracy" blogs are now offering nzbSep 25 23:31
_goblinthats not a wrong stat.Sep 25 23:31
Diablo-D3_goblin: good for themSep 25 23:31
Diablo-D3but its not particularly interestingSep 25 23:31
Diablo-D3and piracy is wrong anyhow.Sep 25 23:31
Diablo-D3so Im not sure why you're championing thatSep 25 23:31
_goblinah so you are proved wrong and then its not interesting.Sep 25 23:32
schestowitzpiracy is wrong. arrrrSep 25 23:32
_goblinand Im championing nothingSep 25 23:32
Diablo-D3you're saying YAY BINARIESSep 25 23:32
_goblinso you lie aswell when your proved wrongSep 25 23:32
_goblinno im notSep 25 23:32
Diablo-D3how much of usenet traffic isnt binaries or spam?Sep 25 23:32
Diablo-D3very very very little.Sep 25 23:32
_goblinIm saying they've seen an increase since speculative invoicing started.Sep 25 23:32
schestowitzbinaries are largeSep 25 23:32
Diablo-D3its not what it used to be, and you're going to have a shitload of trouble arguing that it isSep 25 23:32
schestowitzyour measure is misleadingSep 25 23:32
Diablo-D3I was there, I remember what it wasSep 25 23:32
_goblinIm saying that a nzb client is just as userfriendly as a BT oneSep 25 23:32
_goblinwhat i am not saying Diablo-D3 is championing anythingSep 25 23:33
schestowitzshould we kill all email cause malicious mail has attachments?Sep 25 23:33
schestowitzor youtube for driving a lot of what's going down the pipes?Sep 25 23:33
_goblinvery true...Sep 25 23:33
_goblinI'd watch out Roy, Diablo will have claims that you champion malicious attachments just because you mentioned it.Sep 25 23:34
Snit1Hello GoblinSep 25 23:34
_goblinI wonder, maybe he's love sick for Ender thats why Diablo-D3 is trying the attitude.Sep 25 23:34
_goblinhi!Sep 25 23:35
Snit1Need to run in a bit - but with us all here, can we pick a date for a show?Sep 25 23:35
schestowitzLOLSep 25 23:35
Snit1And, of course, hello to you and how have you been?  :)Sep 25 23:35
schestowitzGo see a shrinkSep 25 23:35
schestowitz(again)Sep 25 23:35
Diablo-D3_goblin: lol ad homonym attacks :DSep 25 23:35
schestowitz_goblin: he's not going on anyn showSep 25 23:35
schestowitzThos little parasite of a 'person' has been nonstop trolling usSep 25 23:36
_goblinDiablo-D3:  No im not, its you making up lies about what I claimSep 25 23:36
Diablo-D3silly _goblin, I was using Linux long before, and I will be using Linux long after youSep 25 23:36
schestowitzHe also trolls us by pretending to be welcomeSep 25 23:36
schestowitzNone of us ever invited him he invites himseflfSep 25 23:36
Snit1Wait: Roy... you said I could be on again.  Are you now backing out?Sep 25 23:36
schestowitzLOLSep 25 23:36
Snit1I sincerely would like to be on the show and let you ask me any question you want.  And let me do the same.Sep 25 23:36
_goblinDiablo-D3: whats that got to do with the binaries and speculative invoicing? Do you understand what these are?Sep 25 23:36
schestowitzGo hide under a bridge, trollSep 25 23:36
schestowitzThat was well before you launched a nonstop attack on meSep 25 23:36
Snit1It is clear we disagree... and that will make for a good show.Sep 25 23:36
schestowitzpiss offSep 25 23:37
Diablo-D3_goblin: er, I never said anything about speculative invoicing.Sep 25 23:37
msbSnit is a sociopath -- they bear the same relationship to people as a computer infected by a spewing virus bears to a well-functioning Linux computer.Sep 25 23:37
Snit1Roy: you are the one who lied about me.  But fine... if you think I am attacking you then point that out.Sep 25 23:37
*ChanServ gives channel operator status to schestowitzSep 25 23:37
_goblinDiablo-D3: you implied I championed piracy.....Sep 25 23:37
_goblinDiablo-D3: or had you forgotten?Sep 25 23:37
Snit1What a great show - show where I am wrong.Sep 25 23:37
Diablo-D3_goblin: you brought up binaries, what else are they for?Sep 25 23:37
Diablo-D3imo thats what ruined usenetSep 25 23:37
Snit1I welcome that... I have nothing to fear and nothing to hide from.  Sep 25 23:37
_goblinDiablo-D3: PD for the a500....for oneSep 25 23:38
Snit1How about you?Sep 25 23:38
sebsebsebSnit1: Is that you ender?Sep 25 23:38
_goblinDiablo-D3: thats the draw for me....Sep 25 23:38
schestowitzLOLSep 25 23:38
Snit1Goblin: if Roy will change his mind are you still game?Sep 25 23:38
_goblinDiablo-D3: oh and libraries of chip musicSep 25 23:38
schestowitzSnit1: similarSep 25 23:38
_goblinDiablo-D3: thats another...Sep 25 23:38
schestowitzsomeone who coopts us to try and get attention to his viewsSep 25 23:38
schestowitzEven attacjking us for attentionSep 25 23:38
schestowitzsame strategySep 25 23:38
_goblinSnit1: I will happily settle with anything that everyone agrees onSep 25 23:38
Diablo-D3I mean, fuck, what you're doing is trying to tell a WW2 soldier how WW2 really was.Sep 25 23:38
schestowitzSnit1: so anyway..Sep 25 23:38
Diablo-D3Go take your grandstanding elsewhere.Sep 25 23:38
schestowitzdid your brother listen yet?Sep 25 23:38
Snit1Goblin: thanks.Sep 25 23:39
sebsebsebWho's Snit1 ?Sep 25 23:39
Snit1Roy: my brother?  What?Sep 25 23:39
msbDiablo-D3: "Piracy" is a very slippery term.  One can download TV shows as Usenet binaries that one can pick up over the air.  Is that "piracy" ?Sep 25 23:39
schestowitza troll who started a site whose sole purposes is to smear meSep 25 23:39
Snit1Seb: I am Snit from COlA.Sep 25 23:39
schestowitzand pretends to be a victimSep 25 23:39
*schestowitz has kicked Snit1 from #techrights (User term)Sep 25 23:39
schestowitzCOLA's #1 trollSep 25 23:40
schestowitzHe's not from COLASep 25 23:40
schestowitzhe's there to ruin COLASep 25 23:40
_goblinis that possible?Sep 25 23:40
Diablo-D3msb: yes in the sense that people have been anon-sued for it.Sep 25 23:40
schestowitzThat's like calling the wolf a member of the sheepSep 25 23:40
MinceRit could be ruined for the trolls :>Sep 25 23:40
msb1255 posts from "Snit" in COLA this month.Sep 25 23:41
schestowitz'psosts'Sep 25 23:41
_goblinDiablo-D3: not in the UK.  29 cases all brought to the court by Andrew Crossley...not one stood up evidentially on IP data alone.Sep 25 23:41
schestowitz"stampede"Sep 25 23:41
schestowitzAnd calling RMS pedophile by insinuationSep 25 23:41
Diablo-D3_goblin: Im in the USSep 25 23:41
_goblinand Im in the UKSep 25 23:41
schestowitzCOLA lost signal not because of the old trolls but a new breed of thatSep 25 23:41
Diablo-D3_goblin: I hope a repeat of that happens here, btwSep 25 23:42
*Snit1 (~Adium@24-116-167-126.cpe.cableone.net) has joined #techrightsSep 25 23:42
schestowitz_goblin: when is the heaingSep 25 23:42
Diablo-D3_goblin: but you know how faggoty hollywood isSep 25 23:42
Snit1You banned me, Roy...Sep 25 23:42
*schestowitz sets ban on Snit1!*@*Sep 25 23:42
*schestowitz has kicked Snit1 from #techrights (User term)Sep 25 23:42
_goblinand in most cases in the US...people settled out of courtSep 25 23:42
msbschestowitz: Not by insinuation -- Snit has posted that it's "very likely" that RMS is a pedophile.Sep 25 23:42
_goblinthe way spec invoicing works bestSep 25 23:42
Diablo-D3_goblin: yeah but its not that they settled, its what they settled forSep 25 23:42
MinceRgnSep 25 23:42
Diablo-D3some as little for a few hundred dollarsSep 25 23:42
Diablo-D3it costs that much just to talk to a lawyer qualified to handle such a caseSep 25 23:42
_goblinbut then on the scale in the US that they were getting orders out on John Does...then it soon mounted up....Sep 25 23:43
_goblinI think hurt locker had 125,000 IP addresses listed on a court order.Sep 25 23:43
Diablo-D3yeah but that one got thrown outSep 25 23:44
Diablo-D3they have to individually file themSep 25 23:44
_goblintrue....Sep 25 23:44
_goblinbut it will take one court to run with it and bingo...Sep 25 23:44
schestowitzthe poor courtroom claerksSep 25 23:44
_goblinbut then thats the weakness of IP evidence alone...Sep 25 23:44
schestowitz*clerksSep 25 23:44
schestowitzI know people who use open wifiSep 25 23:45
_goblinthe burden of proof in a civil court (and more so in criminal) makes IP data alone very weak.Sep 25 23:45
_goblinschestowitz: and thats exactly why a challenge seen through to the end, in the UK makes the evidence so poorSep 25 23:45
_goblinopen wifi, friend, family member....and even if they can prove the IP, they can't prove the infringer.Sep 25 23:46
schestowitz:-)Sep 25 23:46
_goblinalthough mark my words....Sep 25 23:46
schestowitzmalware tooSep 25 23:46
Diablo-D3yeahSep 25 23:46
_goblinthe UK will get legislation soon (my prediction)Sep 25 23:46
Diablo-D3look at the guy that got FBI'ed over child pornSep 25 23:46
Diablo-D3and comes to find out it was a plantSep 25 23:46
schestowitzmaybe they should rethink the business modelSep 25 23:46
_goblinthat will mean it an offense to not take reasonable steps to secure wifiSep 25 23:46
msbThere will have to be a major change in the business model of the entertainment industry.  Downloading for free a movie that one would not have paid to see otherwise is a victimless crime.Sep 25 23:46
Diablo-D3msb: well its worse yetSep 25 23:47
_goblinthat will be brought in under the guise of the "t" wordSep 25 23:47
_goblinand the prevention of.Sep 25 23:47
schestowitzDiablo-D3: that's how they can put anyone in jailSep 25 23:47
Diablo-D3they have no right to attack people if people wish to actually pay money, and the companies refuse to do businessSep 25 23:47
schestowitzAssange had sex with a nice-looking girl who turned out to have had CIA connectionsSep 25 23:47
Diablo-D3schestowitz: s/CIA/Bush/Sep 25 23:47
schestowitzShe got him pwned by surpriseSep 25 23:47
Diablo-D3now, if she would have shaved, that would have been a different storySep 25 23:47
schestowitzat least he didn't fall down the stairsSep 25 23:48
schestowitzThey could have 'fallen' him down the stairsSep 25 23:48
msbIt will prove impossible to stop file-sharing.  There are just too many different technical ways to do it.Sep 25 23:48
Diablo-D3msb: see thats their stupiditySep 25 23:48
Diablo-D3look at every single company who shoves shit at netflixSep 25 23:48
Diablo-D3they make the most money.Sep 25 23:48
Diablo-D3the companies that are netflix/itunes/amazon friendly make money hand over fistSep 25 23:49
Diablo-D3but you have idiots who have no streaming contracts with netflixSep 25 23:49
Diablo-D3dumbassesSep 25 23:49
msbDiablo-D3: So, that's fine.  They are making money via the Net in spite of "piracy".Sep 25 23:49
Diablo-D3msb: noSep 25 23:49
Diablo-D3because you have companies who _refuse_ to do itSep 25 23:49
_goblinto be fair, I could care less about Hollywood...or the film industry. It would be no loss to me if it all fell appart overnight....I can't even remember the last decent movie I saw at the cinema or bought on bluraySep 25 23:49
schestowitzhey want MOARSep 25 23:49
Diablo-D3like, they do netflix streaming 2 years after the bluray comes outSep 25 23:49
Diablo-D3thats 2 years of lost profits.Sep 25 23:50
_goblininfact, if it wasn't for Dr Who....I could easily get rid of my tvSep 25 23:50
Diablo-D3_goblin: erm, I pirate dr whoSep 25 23:50
Diablo-D3WHILE watching it on netflixSep 25 23:50
Diablo-D3Ive been watching it from the beginning latelySep 25 23:50
_goblinformat shiftingSep 25 23:50
_goblinits available in the USSep 25 23:50
_goblinon TV is it not?Sep 25 23:50
Diablo-D3"no"Sep 25 23:50
Diablo-D3syfy has the rights, but they're behindSep 25 23:50
_goblinoh...I thought it wasSep 25 23:50
_goblinI thought Rusty said they were up to date.Sep 25 23:51
Diablo-D3noSep 25 23:51
Diablo-D3they're a season behind at leastSep 25 23:51
Diablo-D3netflix otoh has up to the newest complete seasonSep 25 23:51
schestowitzDr. WHO?!Sep 25 23:51
_goblinI know you get a crappy sort of trailer thrown onto the beginning of the showSep 25 23:51
_goblinRusty was telling me.Sep 25 23:51
Diablo-D3_goblin: not on netflix, which gets their shit from BBC America's mastersSep 25 23:52
msbAre netflix videos downloadable via Firefox add-ons?Sep 25 23:52
Diablo-D3msb: no, that'd be nonsensicalSep 25 23:52
Diablo-D3although they're working on limited html5 support since microsoft is dropping silverlie supportSep 25 23:52
schestowitzsame for youtubeSep 25 23:52
Diablo-D3and they're tired of having a shitload of linux clients and no _linux_ clientSep 25 23:53
schestowitzmsb: netflix has drm afaik, still.. and supported silver fish until recentlySep 25 23:53
Diablo-D3look at all the TVs and Bluray players that run Linux and have a Netflix client]Sep 25 23:53
Diablo-D3hell even my Roku runs LinuxSep 25 23:53
Diablo-D3but its a Roku-specific Netflix appSep 25 23:53
schestowitzRoku does LinuxSep 25 23:54
Diablo-D3<3 Roku so goddamned muchSep 25 23:55
msbHas there ever been a drm scheme that has not eventually been defeated?Sep 25 23:55
Diablo-D3msb: yesSep 25 23:55
schestowitzyou don't knowSep 25 23:55
schestowitzuntil it gets crackedSep 25 23:55
Diablo-D3its called "netflix costs $7.99 a month for all that you can eat"Sep 25 23:56
Diablo-D3why break DRM when you can pay basically nothing.Sep 25 23:56
schestowitzabundance at last?Sep 25 23:56
msb"Because it's there."Sep 25 23:56
DrPizzamsb: yes, many schemesSep 25 23:56
DrPizzamsb: for example, the schemes used by Sky (satellite) in the UK are uncrackedSep 25 23:57
DrPizzathey change periodicallySep 25 23:57
schestowitzjust because we all access more media companies want to elevate the price of how people access itSep 25 23:57
schestowitzWas MSN Music ever cracked before it died?Sep 25 23:57
Diablo-D3schestowitz: yes, and then they lose moneySep 25 23:57
Diablo-D3see thats the thingSep 25 23:57
Diablo-D3the cost of producing a movie is a flat costSep 25 23:58
Diablo-D3once you make the movie, thats it, no more money goes into itSep 25 23:58
Diablo-D3your task afterwards is to make as much money as possibleSep 25 23:58
schestowitzpromotion is done by word of mouthSep 25 23:58
Diablo-D3schestowitz: still a flat cost.Sep 25 23:58
schestowitzSo they need to spread it wide at reasonable costSep 25 23:58
Diablo-D3when I say "make a movie", I mean the whole fucking thingSep 25 23:59
Diablo-D3including the bluray release a year laterSep 25 23:59
schestowitzhow's bluray ding?Sep 25 23:59
Diablo-D3the thing you do next is MAKE AS MUCH MONEY AS POSSIBLESep 25 23:59
schestowitzWas it not left a little unloved after  a while?Sep 25 23:59
Diablo-D3you dont care HOW you make it, as long as it is the maximal amount possibleSep 25 23:59
schestowitzbut it's not setting the shop/shelf proceSep 25 23:59

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