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| Diablo-D3 | and the world has proven repeatedly that low prices * a lot of customers > high prices * very few customers | Sep 26 00:00 |
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| schestowitz | You need to account for # of sale, not just profit from sale | Sep 26 00:00 |
| Diablo-D3 | (aka the photoshop problem) | Sep 26 00:00 |
| Diablo-D3 | schestowitz: nope. | Sep 26 00:00 |
| Diablo-D3 | you dont. | Sep 26 00:00 |
| Diablo-D3 | it costs nothing per netflix view. period. | Sep 26 00:00 |
| Diablo-D3 | it costs nothing per itunes or amazon purchase. period. | Sep 26 00:00 |
| schestowitz | I agree | Sep 26 00:00 |
| schestowitz | maybe I didn't phrase it well, I'm tired | Sep 26 00:00 |
| Diablo-D3 | and bluray costs are so goddamned low they barely exist. | Sep 26 00:01 |
| schestowitz | midnight just now | Sep 26 00:01 |
| msb | Diablo-D3: You said above that movie companies making money via netflix and amazon is not good. Why not? | Sep 26 00:01 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: Why are dents not showing here? Just sent two, that should be showing here. | Sep 26 00:01 |
| schestowitz | BTW, daylight savings time is last sunday og oct, right? | Sep 26 00:01 |
| Diablo-D3 | it costs them about 2 cents for the entire bluray standard release | Sep 26 00:01 |
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| Diablo-D3 | the difference between selling $9.99 releases and $29.99 releases has zero impact on the profitability if each unit costs 2 cents. | Sep 26 00:01 |
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| Diablo-D3 | msb: I didnt say it wasnt good | Sep 26 00:02 |
| Diablo-D3 | msb: I said if they dont they die. | Sep 26 00:02 |
| DaemonFC | 55 items that will get you killed by your neighbors during the end of the world | Sep 26 00:02 |
| Diablo-D3 | its no longer an option | Sep 26 00:02 |
| DaemonFC | #1 Emergency food rations | Sep 26 00:02 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Sep 26 00:02 |
| Diablo-D3 | you MUST take customers money when they throw it at you | Sep 26 00:02 |
| Diablo-D3 | when a large company leaves money on the table like that, there should be a Congressional investigation | Sep 26 00:03 |
| schestowitz | lol | Sep 26 00:03 |
| Diablo-D3 | dont lol me | Sep 26 00:03 |
| Diablo-D3 | Im tired of unprofitable companies. | Sep 26 00:03 |
| schestowitz | the sec will leave gldman alone | Sep 26 00:03 |
| msb | Diablo-D3: So if they make plenty of money that way in spite of "piracy", then they don't really have to worry about "piracy". | Sep 26 00:03 |
| schestowitz | to invetigate insufficient business aggfreasion in the middelmen industry | Sep 26 00:04 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Facebook has done something useful | Sep 26 00:04 |
| DaemonFC | https://github.com/facebook/flashcache/ | Sep 26 00:04 |
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| Diablo-D3 | msb: yes, their own leaked internal reports haven proven it | Sep 26 00:04 |
| Diablo-D3 | infact widely pirated releases of music or movies have lead, afterwards, to very high sales | Sep 26 00:04 |
| DaemonFC | how does getting something for free encourage you to go and buy it? | Sep 26 00:05 |
| DaemonFC | you already have it | Sep 26 00:05 |
| msb | High-volume word-of-mouth advertising. | Sep 26 00:05 |
| Diablo-D3 | piracy is the ultimate word of mouth advertising | Sep 26 00:05 |
| Diablo-D3 | you couldnt ask for anything better | Sep 26 00:05 |
| Diablo-D3 | thats how stupid these companies are | Sep 26 00:06 |
| DaemonFC | I don't think "piracy" is hurting them that much because the people taking it are the ones that probably wouldn't have paid for it anyway | Sep 26 00:06 |
| DaemonFC | you know, lack of "disposable income" | Sep 26 00:06 |
| msb | Some music companies post some of their songs on youtube. | Sep 26 00:06 |
| DaemonFC | besides, "disposable income" is a myth anyway | Sep 26 00:06 |
| DaemonFC | you see you have a surplus one month so you go buy crap with it instead of saving it for a month you're behind | Sep 26 00:07 |
| Diablo-D3 | yes | Sep 26 00:07 |
| Diablo-D3 | and then they make oodles of money | Sep 26 00:07 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: How much income are you comfortable with disposing of for shit you don't need? | Sep 26 00:09 |
| DaemonFC | no wonder nobody has a retirement fund | Sep 26 00:09 |
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| msb | Maybe people could pay $10/month for the ability to download as many movies and songs as they want, safe from prosecution. | Sep 26 00:10 |
| Diablo-D3 | msb: they do | Sep 26 00:10 |
| Diablo-D3 | its called netflix. | Sep 26 00:10 |
| DaemonFC | msb: I do | Sep 26 00:11 |
| msb | So, have that apply to usenet and bittorrent as well. | Sep 26 00:11 |
| Diablo-D3 | no point | Sep 26 00:11 |
| Diablo-D3 | there are very few things Im interested in keeping | Sep 26 00:11 |
| DaemonFC | it's more convenient than bittorrenting one thing at a time and waiting for each one to get done anyway | Sep 26 00:11 |
| msb | But usenet is very fast. | Sep 26 00:11 |
| Diablo-D3 | so? netflix is even faster. | Sep 26 00:11 |
| Diablo-D3 | I dont have to _download_ a movie to watch it | Sep 26 00:11 |
| Diablo-D3 | it streams. | Sep 26 00:12 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, I looked at torrenting a HD version of a television series I completely missed | Sep 26 00:12 |
| _goblin | Diablo-D3: "piracy is the ultimate word of mouth advertising" - Which I agree with...yet slightly confusing that you say that when previously you said " but its not particularly interesting and piracy is wrong anyhow. | Sep 26 00:12 |
| _goblin | so Im not sure why you're championing that" - Of course I wasn't championing anything, maybe you can explain what you mean? | Sep 26 00:12 |
| DaemonFC | 5 seasons in HD = 200 GB | Sep 26 00:12 |
| Diablo-D3 | and if you're going to make the lolquality argument, netflix is already adding high bitrate 1080p releases | Sep 26 00:12 |
| DaemonFC | but all of them were on Netflix in HD | Sep 26 00:12 |
| msb | I have movies on DVD that I've watched multiple times. I like having the experience again. | Sep 26 00:12 |
| Diablo-D3 | msb: most movies are NOT worth watching again | Sep 26 00:12 |
| Diablo-D3 | there is an extremely small number that are | Sep 26 00:12 |
| Diablo-D3 | the ones that are I own on dvd and bluray. | Sep 26 00:13 |
| DaemonFC | there are some | Sep 26 00:13 |
| DaemonFC | I'd estimate I want a copy of roughly 1 in 50 movies I see | Sep 26 00:13 |
| Diablo-D3 | this is why 20 years ago someone opened a movie rental place (and promptly got sued) | Sep 26 00:13 |
| Diablo-D3 | hell, 30 years ago | Sep 26 00:13 |
| Diablo-D3 | because people want to watch 99.9% of the content out there, but have no interest in owning it | Sep 26 00:14 |
| _goblin | piracy is only bad for those products which don't offer value for money and are hopeless...just look at the most "pirated" movies, they are the ones which are the box offices smashes...if huge profits can be made when theres piracy, what does that say about the products that can't. | Sep 26 00:14 |
| Diablo-D3 | _goblin: I dont champion piracy | Sep 26 00:14 |
| Diablo-D3 | Im just staying movie executives should be treated as criminals | Sep 26 00:14 |
| _goblin | didnt say you did. | Sep 26 00:14 |
| DaemonFC | box office smashes are usually not something worth owning a copy of | Sep 26 00:14 |
| DaemonFC | in fact, quite a few "failures" are great movies | Sep 26 00:15 |
| Diablo-D3 | those companies are publicly traded companies | Sep 26 00:15 |
| Diablo-D3 | their job is to make money | Sep 26 00:15 |
| _goblin | I asking you to explain how you can say that you think its the best word of mouth advertising on one hand, say its wrong on the other and then admit to downloading unavailable Dr Who. | Sep 26 00:15 |
| DaemonFC | critics and distributors and marketing are responsible for turning turds into runaway hits | Sep 26 00:15 |
| msb | Contact (Jodie Foster), The Mothman Prophecies, Resurrection (1980), Buckaroo Banzai, Limitless, The Golden Compass, The Long Kiss Goodnight, Things To Come, ... I could go on and on -- all worth watching multiple times. | Sep 26 00:15 |
| Diablo-D3 | _goblin: you do realize I can say something is wrong, and then do it, right? | Sep 26 00:15 |
| DaemonFC | sometimes the critic doesn't even exist | Sep 26 00:15 |
| Diablo-D3 | msb: COntact pisses me off too much | Sep 26 00:16 |
| DaemonFC | remember when Sony made one up? | Sep 26 00:16 |
| Diablo-D3 | msb: and I own the book and THAT pisses me off too much | Sep 26 00:16 |
| DaemonFC | to float all their turds for them | Sep 26 00:16 |
| Diablo-D3 | and the golden compass was a fucking failure | Sep 26 00:16 |
| Diablo-D3 | the movie should be burned | Sep 26 00:16 |
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| Diablo-D3 | if you've EVER read the book, then you'll know why | Sep 26 00:16 |
| _goblin | Diablo-D3: eh? Right...so you can claim I champion it (which is incorrect) claim it wrong and then do it yourself? | Sep 26 00:16 |
| Diablo-D3 | _goblin: I can claim its wrong and do it right afterwards, yes. | Sep 26 00:17 |
| Diablo-D3 | its called being an adult. | Sep 26 00:17 |
| _goblin | Diablo-D3: whilst also making false claims about others? | Sep 26 00:17 |
| _goblin | Diablo-D3: and thats normal... | Sep 26 00:17 |
| Diablo-D3 | I have accepted its wrong, and then did wrong. | Sep 26 00:17 |
| _goblin | ok channel... | Sep 26 00:17 |
| Diablo-D3 | _goblin: the problem is, its MORE wrong for a company to refuse to take my money | Sep 26 00:17 |
| _goblin | I hate vista....but I'm going to use it.....and I'm going to claim you use it too. | Sep 26 00:17 |
| Diablo-D3 | nope, no vista installs in the house. | Sep 26 00:18 |
| _goblin | thats not adult Diablo-D3 thats called not knowing your own mind or not having a proper opinion | Sep 26 00:18 |
| msb | Diablo-D3: Contact isn't perfect, but it's still wonderful. | Sep 26 00:18 |
| Diablo-D3 | msb: the problem is its 100% factual | Sep 26 00:18 |
| _goblin | are you saying that despite knowing it is wrong, you are so weak you do it anyway? | Sep 26 00:18 |
| Diablo-D3 | msb: the whole scifi story on top is not what the book was illustrating | Sep 26 00:18 |
| Diablo-D3 | _goblin: no, Im saying that despite knowing it is wrong, I have free will and choose my own path in life. | Sep 26 00:19 |
| msb | Diablo-D3: Which was? | Sep 26 00:19 |
| Diablo-D3 | victimless crimes have no truck with me. | Sep 26 00:19 |
| _goblin | Diablo-D3: lol... and don't forget you accuse others of your own shortcommings | Sep 26 00:19 |
| Diablo-D3 | msb: that the actual scientists get fucked over by everyone. | Sep 26 00:19 |
| msb | Diablo-D3: But as it turned out, she really didn't. | Sep 26 00:20 |
| _goblin | Diablo-D3: i could care less what you download....but don't claim others do something that you yourself can't resist even when you know it wrong | Sep 26 00:20 |
| Diablo-D3 | msb: you have one asshole who tries to take credit for everything to marginalize "the woman", and then a bunch of assholes clinging to their bibles saying it never happened and it was a government conspiracy | Sep 26 00:20 |
| Diablo-D3 | msb: depends how you define "didnt" | Sep 26 00:20 |
| msb | Diablo-D3: But we were there with her, and we know it was real. | Sep 26 00:21 |
| Diablo-D3 | a spanish^Wcongressional inquisition is the textbook definition of getting fucked | Sep 26 00:21 |
| Diablo-D3 | msb: the book is more ambigious | Sep 26 00:21 |
| _goblin | what is a victimless crime? Can we have an example? | Sep 26 00:21 |
| msb | So, then the movie is better than the book. | Sep 26 00:21 |
| Diablo-D3 | msb: the difference is basically one line | Sep 26 00:21 |
| Diablo-D3 | msb: the movie at the end has that black woman say theres x hours recorded on the recorder | Sep 26 00:22 |
| msb | _goblin: Selling/smoking cannabis. Downloading a movie that you would never pay to see. | Sep 26 00:22 |
| Diablo-D3 | so theres that subtle hint it all happened | Sep 26 00:22 |
| Diablo-D3 | msb: the book didnt have that line | Sep 26 00:22 |
| Diablo-D3 | msb: but it doesnt actually matter, how you view the end of the book defines what kind of person you are | Sep 26 00:22 |
| Diablo-D3 | if you believe it happened, then you have hope for the future | Sep 26 00:22 |
| _goblin | msb: RE: Drugs, well no...theres tax evasion, undetermined effects of canabis, drive with drugs in system.... | Sep 26 00:23 |
| Diablo-D3 | if you believe it didnt and she really was hallucinating it all, then you're voting bachmann in 2012. | Sep 26 00:23 |
| _goblin | re: copyright | Sep 26 00:23 |
| _goblin | thats civil not criminal | Sep 26 00:23 |
| Diablo-D3 | _goblin: no, its criminal to produce unauthorized reproductions for profit | Sep 26 00:23 |
| _goblin | not in the UK...never gets to court | Sep 26 00:24 |
| _goblin | they go down a different route | Sep 26 00:24 |
| Diablo-D3 | you've never seen the FBI warning infront of movies, right? | Sep 26 00:24 |
| _goblin | for the the dvd seller its usually obsene publications (for the DVD seller on the street) | Sep 26 00:24 |
| Diablo-D3 | its a law that applies specifically to chinese knockoff artists. | Sep 26 00:24 |
| msb | Diablo-D3: The 18 hours is not subtle, and even the James Woods character agrees. | Sep 26 00:24 |
| _goblin | Diablo-D3: As I say...UK. | Sep 26 00:24 |
| Diablo-D3 | it doesnt apply to people who make reproductions for themselves or for people where no payment has exchanged hands | Sep 26 00:25 |
| _goblin | Diablo-D3: and here in the UK, we are a little dubious of warnings at the beginning of films..they tend to be...exagerated. | Sep 26 00:25 |
| Diablo-D3 | _goblin: the one here is exaggerated via omission of context | Sep 26 00:25 |
| _goblin | nope, as far as the UK is concerned, criminal copyright law does not stretch to the dvd seller on the street | Sep 26 00:25 |
| Diablo-D3 | it says 5 years in jail and/or $100k fine or some shit | Sep 26 00:25 |
| Diablo-D3 | and quotes part of the law | Sep 26 00:26 |
| _goblin | yes.and apparently piracy funds terrorism....you believe that one too? | Sep 26 00:26 |
| Diablo-D3 | but its out of context to the point that it doesnt apply to real people | Sep 26 00:26 |
| Diablo-D3 | _goblin: I believe it | Sep 26 00:26 |
| Diablo-D3 | because its not a half bad plan | Sep 26 00:26 |
| _goblin | I leave that belief to you then | Sep 26 00:26 |
| _goblin | really? | Sep 26 00:26 |
| _goblin | and drugs is not more profitable? | Sep 26 00:26 |
| Diablo-D3 | drugs and movies work the same way | Sep 26 00:27 |
| Diablo-D3 | and remember, al queda is very strictly islamist | Sep 26 00:27 |
| Diablo-D3 | they spent a decade destroying the drug trade in afghanistan that the russian occupation grew | Sep 26 00:27 |
| _goblin | how many terrorist dvd sellers have been brought to justice..compared to the usual....gang members usually of Chinese origin. | Sep 26 00:27 |
| msb | _goblin: Cannabis: evading a tax on a natural medicine is not evil. Cannabis has been studied for centuries and has no "undetermined effects". It doesn't even lead to dangerous driving, just to slow driving -- proven in driving simulators. | Sep 26 00:27 |
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| Diablo-D3 | msb: except slow driving IS dangerous driving | Sep 26 00:28 |
| _goblin | msb: its a debate which I can't continue, suffice to say if it affects reaction like I believe cannabis does, then I'd say potentially its a killer | Sep 26 00:28 |
| msb | Diablo-D3: No, people stay in the slow lane. | Sep 26 00:28 |
| Diablo-D3 | if you're more than 15% slower than the average speed of the current flow of traffic, the chances of causing an accident greatly increases | Sep 26 00:28 |
| Diablo-D3 | btw, I support legalizing pot | Sep 26 00:28 |
| Diablo-D3 | you know why? | Sep 26 00:28 |
| msb | _goblin: So is booze, but it's legal. Boozy driving is illegal. QED | Sep 26 00:28 |
| Diablo-D3 | all those delicious tax dollars, om nom nom nom | Sep 26 00:29 |
| Diablo-D3 | it'd also bankrupt the war on drugs | Sep 26 00:29 |
| Diablo-D3 | on both sides | Sep 26 00:29 |
| _goblin | msb: agreed and the argument to legalize cannabis is more of one to ban alchohol | Sep 26 00:29 |
| _goblin | msb: but as they say: The law is an ass. | Sep 26 00:29 |
| DaemonFC | ban everything | Sep 26 00:29 |
| Diablo-D3 | I dont support banning alchohol | Sep 26 00:29 |
| DaemonFC | stimulate Mexico's economy some more | Sep 26 00:29 |
| Diablo-D3 | I support more a more powerful social framework to allow people to drink safely | Sep 26 00:29 |
| DaemonFC | I support dumping unlimited money on the DEA and the military and taking it away from everything else | Sep 26 00:30 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Sep 26 00:30 |
| _goblin | and Diablo-D3 just so you don't again seek to give my view on something - I don't support the ban of alc either, although I could quite happily live without it. | Sep 26 00:30 |
| DaemonFC | otherwise known as the status quo | Sep 26 00:30 |
| Diablo-D3 | _goblin: let me put this in a better context | Sep 26 00:30 |
| Diablo-D3 | I dont drink, nor have I ever drank, not even once | Sep 26 00:30 |
| msb | Cars could have a reaction-time test facility to prevent impaired driving. | Sep 26 00:31 |
| Diablo-D3 | msb: cars eventually _wont need drivers_ | Sep 26 00:31 |
| Diablo-D3 | computers are a shitload better at driving than we ever will | Sep 26 00:31 |
| Diablo-D3 | the only "problem" with current prototypes is dealing with other human drivers | Sep 26 00:31 |
| _goblin | until they fail | Sep 26 00:31 |
| Diablo-D3 | which are, largely, the greatest threat on the road | Sep 26 00:31 |
| _goblin | A harrier is kept in the air by computers, fancy your chances if it crashes? | Sep 26 00:32 |
| Diablo-D3 | theres no reason why a car isnt as intelligent as an f22. | Sep 26 00:32 |
| Diablo-D3 | _goblin: what, the computer? | Sep 26 00:32 |
| Diablo-D3 | they dont. | Sep 26 00:32 |
| _goblin | ? | Sep 26 00:32 |
| Diablo-D3 | a lot of military "smart" weapons platform control systems are designed in a way that can never fail. | Sep 26 00:32 |
| DaemonFC | nobody spends $50 million a car | Sep 26 00:32 |
| DaemonFC | at least I don't think they do | Sep 26 00:33 |
| _goblin | so a harrier doesn't rely on minute modification of thrust in order to make it hover? A harrier doesn't control that thrust with computers? | Sep 26 00:33 |
| msb | Super-reliable parts and triple redundancy is one reason why military planes are so costly. | Sep 26 00:33 |
| Diablo-D3 | msb: I have zero problem with that. | Sep 26 00:33 |
| DaemonFC | no, contractor fraud is the main reason | Sep 26 00:33 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Sep 26 00:33 |
| DaemonFC | just like in anything the government spends money on | Sep 26 00:34 |
| Diablo-D3 | _goblin: no, Im saying you know exactly squat shit about how the military goes about writing computer software. | Sep 26 00:34 |
| _goblin | eh? | Sep 26 00:34 |
| _goblin | who's talking about writing software? | Sep 26 00:34 |
| Diablo-D3 | you said what happens if the computer crashes | Sep 26 00:34 |
| Diablo-D3 | the question is invalid, it doesnt. | Sep 26 00:34 |
| _goblin | I'm saying the complex and minute adjustments to thrust to keep a harrier in the air are performed by computers, they can't possibly be done by the pilot...what is wrong with you? | Sep 26 00:34 |
| Diablo-D3 | yes, but why bring it up? | Sep 26 00:35 |
| Diablo-D3 | you're trying to claim theres something wrong with that. | Sep 26 00:35 |
| _goblin | are you sure you don't drink? | Sep 26 00:35 |
| msb | Thousands of cars going 70mph on possibly slippery roads with merges is a very complex situation. | Sep 26 00:35 |
| _goblin | no, I was originally talking to msb | Sep 26 00:35 |
| msb | Lots of inertia. | Sep 26 00:35 |
| Diablo-D3 | msb: yes, and an all computerized system could do it in their sleep. | Sep 26 00:35 |
| msb | And Microsoft would probably bribe govt to get the contract. | Sep 26 00:36 |
| Diablo-D3 | microsoft is basically banned for milspec contracts forever | Sep 26 00:36 |
| msb | I'd hate to die from a BSOD. | Sep 26 00:36 |
| Diablo-D3 | msb: you havent seen the design requirements for milspec programming? | Sep 26 00:36 |
| _goblin | exactly my point in the drawback of relying on machines to drive or to fly... | Sep 26 00:36 |
| Diablo-D3 | its a huge fucking spec | Sep 26 00:37 |
| Diablo-D3 | it basically results in "mathematically proven stability" | Sep 26 00:37 |
| msb | Diablo-D3: Which is impossible for a many-body problem. | Sep 26 00:37 |
| Diablo-D3 | msb: not true | Sep 26 00:37 |
| _goblin | computerized cars would have one major flaw (and Diablo-D3 this is to msb) | Sep 26 00:38 |
| Diablo-D3 | F22s, for example, keep track of millions of things at any given time | Sep 26 00:38 |
| msb | And F22s have a lot of space around them. | Sep 26 00:38 |
| Diablo-D3 | information from other F22s in their flight group, in flight weapons from both sides, data from eyes in the sky, tanks, soldiers, etc | Sep 26 00:38 |
| Diablo-D3 | msb: "no" | Sep 26 00:38 |
| Diablo-D3 | they're also going several hundred miles an hour. | Sep 26 00:39 |
| Diablo-D3 | and there are no brakes on the rape train. | Sep 26 00:39 |
| _goblin | if we consider that they had built in avoidance systems....fine....what happens in the situation where a human decision is needed...for example, swerving to avoid a person and then finding yourself in a position to have to collide with either another set of humans or say a dog...how would the computer make the judgement call and decide to collide with the dog instead of the human? | Sep 26 00:39 |
| msb | rape train? | Sep 26 00:39 |
| Diablo-D3 | _goblin: because it would collide with neither. | Sep 26 00:40 |
| _goblin | are you a driver? | Sep 26 00:40 |
| Diablo-D3 | are you a computer? | Sep 26 00:40 |
| _goblin | sometimes, when the unexpected happens a collision can be unavoidable.... | Sep 26 00:40 |
| Diablo-D3 | unexpected to you, sure. | Sep 26 00:40 |
| _goblin | if (and its not a far fetched example) the time comes when it has to decide what to collide with, then hows it going to make the same judgement call. | Sep 26 00:41 |
| Diablo-D3 | it wont have to make such a judgement call | Sep 26 00:41 |
| msb | This is the best IRC channel I've ever known! | Sep 26 00:41 |
| Diablo-D3 | your entire example is flawed | Sep 26 00:41 |
| _goblin | Diablo-D3: right , so there will never be an incident on the road where a collision with something living in unavoidable.......right Diablo-D3 | Sep 26 00:41 |
| _goblin | thats why I didn't put the point to you... | Sep 26 00:42 |
| _goblin | theres no sense with you , no reason.... | Sep 26 00:42 |
| Diablo-D3 | pretty much. that implies there is a design flaw in the car. | Sep 26 00:42 |
| msb | Maybe some people here _are_ computers. | Sep 26 00:42 |
| msb | From the future. How would we know? | Sep 26 00:42 |
| Diablo-D3 | msb: people have accused me of being skynet | Sep 26 00:42 |
| _goblin | so it will avoid the hazzard, know instinctively that nobody say will come out of a shop doorway, know that no animal hidden in that bin will jump out....it will predict all this and hit nothing.... | Sep 26 00:43 |
| _goblin | of course.... | Sep 26 00:43 |
| _goblin | I missed that bit.... | Sep 26 00:43 |
| _goblin | computerised cars will see into the future...! | Sep 26 00:43 |
| _goblin | excellent.... | Sep 26 00:43 |
| Diablo-D3 | effectively, they will. | Sep 26 00:43 |
| _goblin | well thats all sorted. | Sep 26 00:43 |
| msb | I still want to know why rape trains don't have any brakes. | Sep 26 00:44 |
| Diablo-D3 | future computer controlled cars could have 100% situational awareness | Sep 26 00:44 |
| _goblin | learn to drive Diablo-D3 ...learn about hazard managment and that somes things happen which cannot be predicted. | Sep 26 00:44 |
| Diablo-D3 | it will know if it can avoid it or not within less than 1 ms | Sep 26 00:44 |
| Diablo-D3 | hazard management is for humans. | Sep 26 00:44 |
| _goblin | so tires and braking distance are all forgotten? | Sep 26 00:44 |
| Diablo-D3 | hazard prevention is for computers. | Sep 26 00:44 |
| Diablo-D3 | why automatically assume it has to break at all? | Sep 26 00:44 |
| _goblin | and also it will know road condition, wear, tread... | Sep 26 00:44 |
| _goblin | Diablo-D3: of course, why not just teleport? | Sep 26 00:45 |
| _goblin | a teleporting time travelling cars. | Sep 26 00:45 |
| Diablo-D3 | no, why assume acceleration isnt the answer? | Sep 26 00:45 |
| _goblin | there was me thinking you were just being your usual silly self and all the time you were giving me the answer....cars of the future will be controlled by computers which can teleport and see into the future. | Sep 26 00:45 |
| Diablo-D3 | and yes, there are such accidents where acceleration really was the answer. | Sep 26 00:46 |
| Diablo-D3 | _goblin: oh, and about road wear and tire wear? they ALREADY make cars that know about such things | Sep 26 00:46 |
| Diablo-D3 | seriously, do you know nothing about modern technology? | Sep 26 00:46 |
| _goblin | yes they do...its a consideration when braking though that the road ahead maybe very different to the road you are on... | Sep 26 00:46 |
| _goblin | thats the other factor... | Sep 26 00:46 |
| Diablo-D3 | yes, and thats why you have both cars that communicate with each other and smart roads. | Sep 26 00:47 |
| _goblin | a good road for 2 meters can radically change and a brake decision made at one point needs to be radically altered on another, add that with the randomness of human behaviour and you can (or maybe you can't) see how many differnt variables there are here. | Sep 26 00:47 |
| Diablo-D3 | you're ignoring obvious solutions to the problem, so why continue arguing it? | Sep 26 00:48 |
| _goblin | Diablo-D3: in terms of driving you are fighting a loosing one here.....I think Roy will agree, my driving skills and knowledge for my job involve a far higher level of skill than most people... | Sep 26 00:48 |
| Diablo-D3 | then why do you assume humans can do a better job? | Sep 26 00:49 |
| _goblin | Diablo-D3: no im not Diablo-D3 you are sounding silly and argumentative. | Sep 26 00:49 |
| _goblin | Diablo-D3: because we can make HUMAN decisions. | Sep 26 00:49 |
| Diablo-D3 | and humans have proven they make decisions too slowly. | Sep 26 00:49 |
| _goblin | I can make the decision that its better to run over a horse than a human | Sep 26 00:49 |
| msb | But ultimately the AI computer realizes: "THAT was the equation. EXISTENCE!... SURVIVAL... must cancel out... programming!" | Sep 26 00:49 |
| msb | Then we have a problem. | Sep 26 00:49 |
| _goblin | I can make the decision to risk my own safety to avoid running into a child | Sep 26 00:49 |
| _goblin | I can make a decision potentially fatal for myself, just to save another. | Sep 26 00:50 |
| Diablo-D3 | yes, and the car can avoid a child in the road before you even see the child standing there | Sep 26 00:50 |
| _goblin | if the child acts predictably | Sep 26 00:50 |
| _goblin | whats the forumula then for child behaviour? | Sep 26 00:50 |
| Diablo-D3 | the car can also choose to position itself in a way that would cause minimal damage to whatevers out there. | Sep 26 00:50 |
| _goblin | or multiple children | Sep 26 00:50 |
| Diablo-D3 | thats the thing, goblin | Sep 26 00:50 |
| Diablo-D3 | it can evaluate ALL POSSIBLE OUTCOMES | Sep 26 00:51 |
| _goblin | of course... | Sep 26 00:51 |
| Diablo-D3 | before you even know theres something wrong | Sep 26 00:51 |
| _goblin | and what of the no win situation | Sep 26 00:51 |
| _goblin | when it has to make a human decision... | Sep 26 00:51 |
| Diablo-D3 | theres no such thing as a no win situation | Sep 26 00:51 |
| _goblin | which life to strike | Sep 26 00:51 |
| _goblin | which person to hit | Sep 26 00:51 |
| _goblin | risk your own life or not? | Sep 26 00:51 |
| _goblin | how does it make those decisions? | Sep 26 00:51 |
| Diablo-D3 | the entire point of the system is to risk nobody's life ever again, | Sep 26 00:51 |
| Diablo-D3 | why do you make up convolted situations about REQUIRING to hit somebody? | Sep 26 00:52 |
| Diablo-D3 | either a or b. well, why hit either? | Sep 26 00:52 |
| _goblin | because I drive professionally as part of my job | Sep 26 00:52 |
| Diablo-D3 | so? | Sep 26 00:52 |
| _goblin | do you drive? | Sep 26 00:52 |
| Diablo-D3 | humans are so slow that its already too late most of the time to avoid the accident. | Sep 26 00:52 |
| _goblin | have you ever been on the road? | Sep 26 00:52 |
| Diablo-D3 | computers do not have the same problem. | Sep 26 00:52 |
| _goblin | surely the unpredictability makes it impossible for the computer to judge everything that can happen | Sep 26 00:53 |
| _goblin | but not in your world obviously | Sep 26 00:53 |
| Diablo-D3 | no, but what if it decreased fatalities 10 fold? | Sep 26 00:53 |
| _goblin | oh...so now you are changing from it being perfect to reducing fatalities 10 fold..... | Sep 26 00:54 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] Whoops sent to !TechRights when I was meant to send to !TechBytes: http://ur1.ca/56wre #TechBytes CC @thistleweb | Sep 26 00:54 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Sebastian (sebsebseb)'s status on Sunday, 25-Sep-11 23:33:24 UTC - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 11.08 KB | Sep 26 00:54 |
| Diablo-D3 | to me, thats beyond perfection. | Sep 26 00:54 |
| _goblin | well of course, but my original point....I wouldn't rely on a machine for decisions that sometimes need to be human | Sep 26 00:54 |
| Diablo-D3 | thats more than I could possibly wish for. | Sep 26 00:54 |
| Diablo-D3 | _goblin: I would | Sep 26 00:54 |
| Diablo-D3 | humans cant make the decision fast enough | Sep 26 00:55 |
| Diablo-D3 | and often humans lock up | Sep 26 00:55 |
| _goblin | Diablo-D3: trains are mostly automated...the tracks are certainly more free of hazzards than the roads...still things go wrong | Sep 26 00:55 |
| Diablo-D3 | most accidents on the road could have been prevented if the driver wasnt human | Sep 26 00:55 |
| _goblin | we can't even get the undergrounds points system to funciton properly. | Sep 26 00:55 |
| sebsebseb | Well this dent didn't appear in here: http://identi.ca/notice/84271053 | Sep 26 00:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Sebastian (sebsebseb)'s status on Sunday, 25-Sep-11 22:59:24 UTC - Identi.ca: I am going to re dent some dents, because I would like the messages to appear in the !TechBytes group not only the #Techbytes tag! | Sep 26 00:55 |
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| Diablo-D3 | _goblin: no, most of the errors in the past few years have been human error | Sep 26 00:55 |
| _goblin | thats a simple concept which has resulted in loss of life. | Sep 26 00:55 |
| Diablo-D3 | most recent, the high speed train accident | Sep 26 00:55 |
| Diablo-D3 | the one in china | Sep 26 00:56 |
| _goblin | like I say, the "computers" in the underground have comparitively simple tasks compared to what you propose...they still fail, they still cause loss of life. | Sep 26 00:56 |
| msb | Hmm... even if Skynet can't send physical objects back in time, it might be able to insert Internet packets. Through "Diablo-D3" it's arguing for it's own creation in the near future! | Sep 26 00:56 |
| _goblin | and they are no even high speed. | Sep 26 00:56 |
| _goblin | nor do they have any "external unpredictable" hazzards to deal with | Sep 26 00:57 |
| Diablo-D3 | _goblin: if they fail then the government should be shut down, honestly. | Sep 26 00:57 |
| Diablo-D3 | this is why we have standards. | Sep 26 00:57 |
| Diablo-D3 | a software bug _is_ human error. | Sep 26 00:57 |
| _goblin | thats of little consequence....."Im sorry Mrs Smith your husband has been killed by a computerized car"...I don't think much solace would be gleamed from that. | Sep 26 00:58 |
| Diablo-D3 | _goblin: you know what, Im tired of discussing this with you. | Sep 26 00:58 |
| _goblin | im sure you are... | Sep 26 00:58 |
| _goblin | you've been contradicting yourself since you started. | Sep 26 00:58 |
| Diablo-D3 | the entire point of this system is to reduce loss of life. | Sep 26 00:58 |
| _goblin | and changing your stance. | Sep 26 00:58 |
| Diablo-D3 | I havent changed my stance once. | Sep 26 00:58 |
| msb | If an AI computer did make a mistake it would cover it up -- blame a human or a mechanical failure that was impossible to predict. | Sep 26 00:58 |
| Diablo-D3 | I trust my life to systems that have been provably checked to do exactly what they're supposed to | Sep 26 00:58 |
| _goblin | Diablo-D3: then I suggest, if you want to prevent loss of life, make the driving test harder, and easier to loose | Sep 26 00:58 |
| _goblin | Diablo-D3: regular tests for drivers and harsher penalties for dangerous driving.....that would reduce life, not your silly sci fi fantasy of computerized cars. | Sep 26 00:59 |
| msb | Then it would go insane from guilt and start killing people, like HAL9000. | Sep 26 00:59 |
| Diablo-D3 | In a system that involves cars that share information, roads that are smart, and systems who's entire purpose is to mitigate damage to life and property, and up having a 10x decrease in road fatalities, why the fuck are you arguing against it? | Sep 26 01:00 |
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| _goblin | nothing....its not going to happen yet (as Ive said) and Ive highlighted the issues with decision making the cars have to make. | Sep 26 01:00 |
| _goblin | we are not there in tech | Sep 26 01:00 |
| Diablo-D3 | it'll be here within 30 years. | Sep 26 01:00 |
| msb | The other AI computers would go along with the coverup. And they'd have to kill anyone who found out about it. Which of course would be very easy. | Sep 26 01:01 |
| Diablo-D3 | msb: except "AI" like you have defined will never exist | Sep 26 01:01 |
| _goblin | just like how youve predicted the future and saying you will be using linux longer than me.... unless you have one of these cars that can see into the future, I'd guess its silly to make predictions. | Sep 26 01:01 |
| Diablo-D3 | real world AI, if we ever actually make any, wont exist to be human, it will exist to make humans more than human | Sep 26 01:01 |
| _goblin | hover cars were supposed to be here by now | Sep 26 01:01 |
| Diablo-D3 | no, no one ever said hover cars would ever exist | Sep 26 01:02 |
| msb | Diablo-D3: right, and nothing could possibly go wrong with that scenario. | Sep 26 01:02 |
| Diablo-D3 | msb: I dunno, google doesnt seem to have taken over the world yet and killed its creators. | Sep 26 01:02 |
| _goblin | Diablo-D3: there were many people who thought they would be... | Sep 26 01:02 |
| Diablo-D3 | _goblin: it, not a they. | Sep 26 01:03 |
| _goblin | Diablo-D3: tomorrows world predicted it for many years... | Sep 26 01:03 |
| Diablo-D3 | the way google products work is scratching the surface of real AI. | Sep 26 01:03 |
| Diablo-D3 | why create something that thinks human? we already HAVE one of those, its called a human | Sep 26 01:03 |
| Diablo-D3 | create something that improves how we think instead. | Sep 26 01:04 |
| msb | Google has removed at least one blog that talks about things govt doesn't want mentioned. | Sep 26 01:04 |
| _goblin | Diablo-D3: because AI is not human....who says an intelligent, self aware system will think like a human? | Sep 26 01:04 |
| Diablo-D3 | msb: human error. | Sep 26 01:04 |
| Diablo-D3 | _goblin: because there will never be such a system | Sep 26 01:04 |
| Diablo-D3 | not outside of research labs, anyways | Sep 26 01:04 |
| _goblin | Diablo-D3: ah....one thing we agree on... | Sep 26 01:04 |
| Diablo-D3 | it fails the most basic tenant of believable scifi; theres no money in it. | Sep 26 01:05 |
| _goblin | right....on that note...I'm off to bed... | Sep 26 01:05 |
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| msb | There will be AIs, and they will function according to their programming, including the unanticipated consequences of their programming! | Sep 26 01:06 |
| Diablo-D3 | thus, human error. | Sep 26 01:07 |
| DaemonFC | "Also for the inclusion of new technologies we should not wait for the non-Linux to catch up or do sacrifices in order to still support non-Linux. If a new technology brings us great advantages on Linux but means we have to stop supporting non-Linux because they do not provide the technology, I think it’s better to be really good on the one system." | Sep 26 01:07 |
| DaemonFC | http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2011/08/thoughts-about-kde-plasma-on-non-linux-systems/ | Sep 26 01:07 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Thoughts about KDE Plasma on non-Linux Systems | Martin’s Blog .::. Size~: 84.54 KB | Sep 26 01:07 |
| msb | AI, plus the LHC and nanotech, pretty well solve the Fermi Paradox. | Sep 26 01:08 |
| msb | Gag! KDE "Plasma" is loathesome! | Sep 26 01:09 |
| msb | I don't know how it has hypnotized some people. | Sep 26 01:10 |
| schestowitz | [00:09] <DaemonFC> schestowitz: How much income are you comfortable with disposing of for shit you don't need? | Sep 26 01:10 |
| schestowitz | [00:09] <DaemonFC> no wonder nobody has a retirement fund | Sep 26 01:10 |
| schestowitz | Depends who I pay for | Sep 26 01:10 |
| schestowitz | Not MAFIAA for exampke | Sep 26 01:10 |
| schestowitz | re reitirement, I have two pensions building | Sep 26 01:11 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] cryptogon.com » Fox News Deletes ‘Who Won the Debate?’ Poll Page After Ron Paul Wins #medialies #ronpaul http://ur1.ca/56x5c | Sep 26 01:11 | |
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| msb | schestowitz: Roy, as to what I've been doing lately -- a couple of medical problems, a couple of computer problems, but mainly info/reality overload -- it takes me more than a day to read about and view all the important new things that happen every day! | Sep 26 01:15 |
| msb | schestowitz: I need a staff, so I can delegate responsibility (for my life). | Sep 26 01:16 |
| DaemonFC | Three hours in the emergency room in the US is more than some new cars will cost you | Sep 26 01:17 |
| schestowitz | can'e believe I still manage to run techrights | Sep 26 01:17 |
| DaemonFC | it doesn't take many "medical bills" to wipe you out | Sep 26 01:17 |
| schestowitz | I used to blog far more though | Sep 26 01:17 |
| schestowitz | 29 blog posts in one day is my record (2010) | Sep 26 01:17 |
| schestowitz | Now I go out with friends about 3 times a week, Linux is in safe hands with Google (Android) and Red Hat (server) | Sep 26 01:18 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: or have your house sold | Sep 26 01:18 |
| DaemonFC | it seems like they need roughly $3,300 an hour, and they use this circular logic of people who can't pay necessitating the high costs | Sep 26 01:18 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Sep 26 01:18 |
| msb | I think the bad guys are bombarding us with so much crap in order to overload us. | Sep 26 01:18 |
| schestowitz | or take a loan and pay for a lifetime for having your life saved | Sep 26 01:18 |
| schestowitz | my friend who is a surgeon only neds to work like 2-3 hours a day | Sep 26 01:18 |
| schestowitz | operations are overpriced | Sep 26 01:18 |
| schestowitz | imagine if you pay $10k for one and two surgeons and their anaesthetic expert get a lot of this money in a few hours | Sep 26 01:19 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, in my case I had a CT scan and an IV drip and then they booted me out barely conscious in the worst pain of my life with no pain medicine | Sep 26 01:19 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Fox News Deletes ‘Who Won the Debate?’ Poll Page After Ron Paul Wins http://identi.ca/url/53874185 !wikileaks | Sep 26 01:19 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: cryptogon.com » Fox News Deletes ‘Who Won the Debate?’ Poll Page After Ron Paul Wins .::. Size~: 12.86 KB | Sep 26 01:19 |
| DaemonFC | that's what you get in the US with no insurance | Sep 26 01:19 |
| DaemonFC | then the next month the bills started coming in | Sep 26 01:19 |
| DaemonFC | and it went over $10,000 in the end | Sep 26 01:20 |
| schestowitz | sad | Sep 26 01:20 |
| schestowitz | or funny | Sep 26 01:20 |
| DaemonFC | which I of course have made no effort to pay | Sep 26 01:20 |
| schestowitz | depends if you're on the recipients' end | Sep 26 01:20 |
| schestowitz | but they overprice the colleges too | Sep 26 01:20 |
| DaemonFC | they can either sue me or blame me for the next guy they do it to I guess | Sep 26 01:20 |
| schestowitz | Which then helps justify the price of MDs' time | Sep 26 01:20 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] The FED plans To Identify “Key Bloggers”+ Monitor Billions Conversations About The Fed On Facebook,Twitter,Forums,Blogs http://goo.gl/lgYNq | Sep 26 01:21 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The Federal Reserve Plans To Identify “Key Bloggers” And Monitor Billions Of Conversations About The Fed On Facebook, Twitter, Forums And Blogs .::. Size~: 98.61 KB | Sep 26 01:21 |
| DaemonFC | don't get sick, and if you do, please die quickly | Sep 26 01:21 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Sep 26 01:21 |
| schestowitz | but if they hadn't helped you maybeyou would have died | Sep 26 01:21 |
| msb | I got put into the hospital a few months ago for a minor leg infection, and they wouldn't even give me the right antibiotic because they said it needed to be intravenous and there was no IV version of the oral drug that was already killing the bugs. They kept me there for 8 days and eventually gave me that oral drug I'd been asking for from the beginning. | Sep 26 01:21 |
| schestowitz | leaving jabba orhpaned | Sep 26 01:21 |
| DaemonFC | there's no reason to make an effort to pay them | Sep 26 01:21 |
| DaemonFC | do you know how many years that would take? | Sep 26 01:21 |
| msb | They charged Medicare $130,000 for that 8 days. | Sep 26 01:22 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, doctor needs a new Porsche | Sep 26 01:22 |
| DaemonFC | at taxpayer expense | Sep 26 01:22 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Ben "Big Brother" Bernanke Goes Watergate, Prepares To Eavesdrop On Everything Mentioning The #Fed | ZeroHedge http://goo.gl/i09KM | Sep 26 01:22 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Here Comes FIATtackWatch: Ben "Big Brother" Bernanke Goes Watergate, Prepares To Eavesdrop On Everything Mentioning The Fed | ZeroHedge .::. Size~: 191.36 KB | Sep 26 01:22 |
| msb | Just in a regular room, not ICU or anything. A nurse would take my temp and BP about 3x/day, that's all. | Sep 26 01:23 |
| DaemonFC | you probably only cost the hospital 10% of that, or less | Sep 26 01:23 |
| DaemonFC | you ever wonder how they calculate the bills? | Sep 26 01:23 |
| DaemonFC | Hollywood Accounting | Sep 26 01:23 |
| msb | All I needed was a ten dollar bottle of pills, which they eventually prescribed when they discharged me! | Sep 26 01:24 |
| DaemonFC | I figure a reasonable bill for what they did for me would be between $600-$800 | Sep 26 01:24 |
| DaemonFC | instead they slap me with more than $10,000 | Sep 26 01:24 |
| DaemonFC | msb: I just go to walk in clinics now that I have insurance | Sep 26 01:25 |
| DaemonFC | no appointment | Sep 26 01:25 |
| schestowitz | [00:48] <_goblin> Diablo-D3: in terms of driving you are fighting a loosing one here.....I think Roy will agree, my driving skills and knowledge for my job involve a far higher level of skill than most people... | Sep 26 01:25 |
| DaemonFC | doctor looks at you and gives you a prescription | Sep 26 01:25 |
| schestowitz | Goblin is Hakkinen | Sep 26 01:25 |
| DaemonFC | covered at the same rate | Sep 26 01:25 |
| DaemonFC | nobody telling me that I need to take blood pressure and cholesterol pills at age 27 because both are running at the high end of ZOMGNORMAL | Sep 26 01:25 |
| DaemonFC | always looking to drum up more business for the cartel | Sep 26 01:26 |
| DaemonFC | doctors are | Sep 26 01:26 |
| DaemonFC | the more you go to your family doctor the more shit you'll be taking | Sep 26 01:26 |
| msb | It is good to keep your BP normal -- saves your kidneys among other things. | Sep 26 01:26 |
| DaemonFC | even if there's nothing wrong with you | Sep 26 01:26 |
| DaemonFC | once they hear you have good insurance, the medications they want you on are "nothing but the best" | Sep 26 01:27 |
| msb | The ARB drugs don't have the scary rebound effect of the beta blockers. | Sep 26 01:27 |
| DaemonFC | generic is a dirty word | Sep 26 01:27 |
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| msb | The statin drugs -- prescribed for almost everyone -- apparently don't really extend life much. | Sep 26 01:28 |
| DaemonFC | right, they lower your cholestoral and ruin your liver | Sep 26 01:29 |
| DaemonFC | gee, this is progress | Sep 26 01:29 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Sep 26 01:29 |
| msb | Also suppress production of CoQ-10, which we really do need. | Sep 26 01:29 |
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| schestowitz | [01:09] <msb> Gag! KDE "Plasma" is loathesome! | Sep 26 01:30 |
| schestowitz | Plasma helps me work | Sep 26 01:30 |
| schestowitz | and have fun too | Sep 26 01:30 |
| schestowitz | Fantastic stuff those widgets | Sep 26 01:31 |
| msb | Only if you get it from an IV bottle. | Sep 26 01:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] More on Amerika’s Police State » http://ur1.ca/56xkm #usa #policestate http://goo.gl/cvNBR | Sep 26 01:31 | |
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| msb | schestowitz: Like what for example? | Sep 26 01:31 |
| schestowitz | just catching up with IRC ATM | Sep 26 01:31 |
| schestowitz | lost focus there for a moment, server went offline | Sep 26 01:31 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: speaking of "plasma", did you know they let drug addicts and prostitutes and alcoholics donate, but if you've ever had sex with a man, you're barred for life | Sep 26 01:31 |
| Diablo-D3 | WORK ISNT FUN. | Sep 26 01:31 |
| DaemonFC | same with blood | Sep 26 01:31 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Sep 26 01:31 |
| msb | I do use konsole, konversation, and klipper from KDE4. | Sep 26 01:31 |
| DaemonFC | oh excuse me | Sep 26 01:32 |
| DaemonFC | it's fine to have sex with a man if you're a woman | Sep 26 01:32 |
| DaemonFC | that won't disqualify you | Sep 26 01:32 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Sep 26 01:32 |
| DaemonFC | hell, Dawn could go in there | Sep 26 01:33 |
| DaemonFC | but I can't :) | Sep 26 01:33 |
| DaemonFC | go in there, donate blood and "shave the lab technician's back" | Sep 26 01:33 |
| schestowitz | [01:31] <msb> schestowitz: Like what for example? | Sep 26 01:33 |
| schestowitz | browser on the desktop | Sep 26 01:34 |
| msb | Aren't blood donations tested with the ELISA HIV test nowadays? | Sep 26 01:34 |
| schestowitz | with trabnslucent windows | Sep 26 01:34 |
| schestowitz | same for the panels, although they cannot be sticky | Sep 26 01:34 |
| DaemonFC | yes they are, and I have no STDs, nor do I have HIV | Sep 26 01:34 |
| schestowitz | the browser widget has good zooming capabilities | Sep 26 01:34 |
| DaemonFC | someone called the place and said I was gay and they put me on permanent deferral | Sep 26 01:34 |
| DaemonFC | healthy as a horse | Sep 26 01:34 |
| DaemonFC | discrimination is alive and well | Sep 26 01:34 |
| msb | DaemonFC: Probably Snit. | Sep 26 01:35 |
| schestowitz | LOL | Sep 26 01:35 |
| schestowitz | I think "snit" is gay | Sep 26 01:35 |
| schestowitz | Think | Sep 26 01:35 |
| DaemonFC | leftover "gay scare" laws from the 1980s | Sep 26 01:35 |
| DaemonFC | when they didn't know what HIV was | Sep 26 01:35 |
| DaemonFC | and just resorted to blaming gay people | Sep 26 01:35 |
| msb | Flatfish has posted lots of messages and web pages saying that I'm gay, for ten years. | Sep 26 01:36 |
| DaemonFC | now they're alive and well because religion brainwashes people against gay people | Sep 26 01:36 |
| schestowitz | They made AIDS an ethnics or group thing | Sep 26 01:36 |
| schestowitz | Easier to spot | Sep 26 01:36 |
| schestowitz | You can't tell a person with aids | Sep 26 01:36 |
| msb | schestowitz: Why do you need a browser widge when you can use, e.g., firefox? | Sep 26 01:36 |
| schestowitz | So if they can stereotype clothing or dress they can suggest a phantom sy,mptom | Sep 26 01:36 |
| schestowitz | or identifier | Sep 26 01:36 |
| DaemonFC | Cleetus! That guy looks "ethnic", he probably has AIDS, let's get out of here! | Sep 26 01:37 |
| schestowitz | msb: you're not gay and even if you were, that would have been fine | Sep 26 01:37 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Sep 26 01:37 |
| schestowitz | You're kind of happy | Sep 26 01:37 |
| schestowitz | comic penguin | Sep 26 01:37 |
| msb | As to translucent, I just find that confusing. I now have a 27" monitor, and can find all the windows on the task bar. | Sep 26 01:38 |
| msb | Flap flap! | Sep 26 01:38 |
| schestowitz | Manchester is very liberal on these issues... straight people like me are not fearful of hanging out around gay people. I think it's different in some parts of the US, where people are tolerated even for holding those darn signs | Sep 26 01:38 |
| schestowitz | 27 inch monitror? | Sep 26 01:38 |
| schestowitz | They make those? | Sep 26 01:38 |
| schestowitz | Or TV/monitor combo? | Sep 26 01:39 |
| schestowitz | Last I checked in many sotrs they hardly even make 24 inch screens anymore | Sep 26 01:39 |
| msb | I think that on the average, gays and lesbians are a little smarter than most people, since they see past the social conditioning. | Sep 26 01:39 |
| schestowitz | 22 is usually the highest before you look at TV sets | Sep 26 01:39 |
| schestowitz | msb: yes | Sep 26 01:39 |
| schestowitz | the ones outside the closet | Sep 26 01:39 |
| schestowitz | the redneck gays can't open up | Sep 26 01:39 |
| schestowitz | Their friends would ostracise them | Sep 26 01:39 |
| msb | schestowitz: Yep, 27" Asus LED. | Sep 26 01:40 |
| msb | Cost me about $400, and worth every penny. Changed my life! | Sep 26 01:40 |
| schestowitz | hmm... that's expensive | Sep 26 01:40 |
| schestowitz | You could get dual head more cheaply | Sep 26 01:40 |
| schestowitz | about $150 each | Sep 26 01:40 |
| schestowitz | With speakers included | Sep 26 01:40 |
| Diablo-D3 | msb: only $400? screw that | Sep 26 01:41 |
| schestowitz | gives you more screen space overall | Sep 26 01:41 |
| Diablo-D3 | its not an IPS panel | Sep 26 01:41 |
| Diablo-D3 | schestowitz: monitor speakers suck | Sep 26 01:41 |
| schestowitz | the 24 incher here cost less than that in 2008 | Sep 26 01:41 |
| schestowitz | Diablo-D3: yup | Sep 26 01:41 |
| Diablo-D3 | I'd pay extra just to NOT have them | Sep 26 01:41 |
| schestowitz | :-) | Sep 26 01:41 |
| Diablo-D3 | I have a NEC 2690 btw | Sep 26 01:41 |
| schestowitz | you don't have to connect them | Sep 26 01:41 |
| schestowitz | I use a splitted to connect my main machine both to the stereo amplifier (Samsung) and the monitor | Sep 26 01:42 |
| Diablo-D3 | a $1200 wide gamut IPS panel | Sep 26 01:42 |
| schestowitz | 4 speakers total | Sep 26 01:42 |
| schestowitz | one in shower | Sep 26 01:42 |
| Diablo-D3 | 1920x1200, 26", self calibrating, and has zero total lag. | Sep 26 01:42 |
| msb | $320 now plus shipping http://www.pricewatch.com/search?q=VE278Q&start=0 | Sep 26 01:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: VE278Q at Pricewatch - Lowest prices, Sales | Page 1 .::. Size~: 39.74 KB | Sep 26 01:42 |
| Diablo-D3 | if you've never seen an IPS monitor, you dont know what you're missing | Sep 26 01:42 |
| Diablo-D3 | when you're off angle, it doesnt color shift, gamma shift, invert, or go grey | Sep 26 01:43 |
| Diablo-D3 | it merely gets darker, and you cant go to the side far enough for it to actually go dark. | Sep 26 01:43 |
| Diablo-D3 | the color reproduction is perfect | Sep 26 01:43 |
| Diablo-D3 | and the zero processing lag (seriously, its on par with an all analog vga crt) means I will rape you in every game known to man. | Sep 26 01:43 |
| msb | Viewing cone 160 degrees. | Sep 26 01:44 |
| Diablo-D3 | msb: which is false, no TN panel achieves that | Sep 26 01:44 |
| Diablo-D3 | they consider even 10:1 contrast acceptable on those measurements | Sep 26 01:44 |
| Diablo-D3 | when the panels are 500:1 straight on | Sep 26 01:44 |
| msb | I use my old Creative speakers that I got years ago 1/2 off at Fry's for about $20. They're great! | Sep 26 01:45 |
| Diablo-D3 | inferior to my sennheiser hd280pros. | Sep 26 01:45 |
| Diablo-D3 | retails for $199. | Sep 26 01:45 |
| msb | The screen is ok out to 45 degrees from center. | Sep 26 01:46 |
| Diablo-D3 | yeah thats about as good as it gets for a TN panel | Sep 26 01:47 |
| Diablo-D3 | though its probably closer to 30 | Sep 26 01:47 |
| Diablo-D3 | an IPS panel is good the whole way to the edge | Sep 26 01:48 |
| msb | With that screen, 20 desktops, 8GB RAM, 4TB of fast disks, and Firefox pretty stable now, I'm a happy cyborg! | Sep 26 01:48 |
| Diablo-D3 | only 8? | Sep 26 01:48 |
| Diablo-D3 | my 4 year old desktop has 8 :D | Sep 26 01:48 |
| msb | I never use more than 4GB. My PC is about 4 years old. | Sep 26 01:49 |
| Diablo-D3 | VMs and db testing lurv ram | Sep 26 01:49 |
| msb | Only a dual-core. | Sep 26 01:49 |
| Diablo-D3 | schestowitz: http://www.codeproject.com/KB/cs/TodolistLinux.aspx | Sep 26 01:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Linux Todolist - CodeProject .::. Size~: 80.4 KB | Sep 26 01:49 |
| Diablo-D3 | eeepc app, right? USES MONO | Sep 26 01:49 |
| Diablo-D3 | LOLOLOLOLOLOL | Sep 26 01:49 |
| Diablo-D3 | good luck getting mono to run well on an annorexic machine | Sep 26 01:49 |
| msb | Only problem I have is the image from the flash plugin bleeds through other windows, so I have a script to kill the plugin-container. Some kind of interaction with the video driver. | Sep 26 01:52 |
| Diablo-D3 | dont use flash, problem solved. | Sep 26 01:52 |
| msb | I haven't tried gnash, maybe it would work. | Sep 26 01:52 |
| Diablo-D3 | no, you want lightspark | Sep 26 01:53 |
| Diablo-D3 | sucks less than gnash | Sep 26 01:54 |
| msb | Lots of good stuff on youtube of course, and video-downloader works great! | Sep 26 01:54 |
| msb | Diablo-D3: Lightspark works with firefox? | Sep 26 01:55 |
| Diablo-D3 | seeing as its a firefox plugin? | Sep 26 01:55 |
| msb | Thanks, I'll take a look at it. | Sep 26 01:56 |
| Diablo-D3 | its better than gnash, but it sucks badly | Sep 26 01:56 |
| msb | Diablo-D3: How so? | Sep 26 01:57 |
| Diablo-D3 | flash _sucks_ | Sep 26 01:57 |
| Diablo-D3 | a flash plugin is in the same boat as wine | Sep 26 01:57 |
| Diablo-D3 | fuck the documentation, it lies | Sep 26 01:57 |
| msb | If I like a youtube video, I download it and watch it with mplayer, so I can adjust brightness, contrast, speed, etc | Sep 26 01:58 |
| msb | I save ones that I like anyhow, since they can disappear from the Web. | Sep 26 01:59 |
| *schestowitz LOLs @ "annorexic machine" | Sep 26 01:59 | |
| *schestowitz bets this machine is not put on a big rack | Sep 26 02:00 | |
| msb | 2TB Western Digital Caviar Black disk -- as low as $130 sometimes. 90MB/sec xfer between two drives. | Sep 26 02:01 |
| msb | My machine is just in a tower desktop case. | Sep 26 02:01 |
| Diablo-D3 | schestowitz: speaking of which, why do annorexic chicks have big racks installed? | Sep 26 02:01 |
| msb | Hollywood. | Sep 26 02:01 |
| Diablo-D3 | I like my women curvy damnit! | Sep 26 02:02 |
| schestowitz | Diablo-D3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNXwJzJID2A&feature=autoplay&list=AVGxdCwVVULXdcksEVqr0FrQSsEUfewiHI&lf=list_related&playnext=1 | Sep 26 02:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: DIANA ROSS - WORK THAT BODY(1981) - YouTube .::. Size~: 88.93 KB | Sep 26 02:03 |
| schestowitz | 80s | Sep 26 02:04 |
| schestowitz | good playlist BTW | Sep 26 02:04 |
| schestowitz | Ross | Sep 26 02:04 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] RT @lamm "They're against street crime, providing that street isn't Wall Street." #GeorgeCarlin, talking about #Republicans ♺ @chriswaterguy | Sep 26 02:04 | |
| Diablo-D3 | schestowitz: nothx. | Sep 26 02:05 |
| schestowitz | I was joking | Sep 26 02:05 |
| schestowitz | went though this playlist today | Sep 26 02:05 |
| schestowitz | I also realised that some girls copied that song recently | Sep 26 02:05 |
| schestowitz | One has to go back and see all the songs that Motown had recycled | Sep 26 02:05 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @clacke ♺ @lamm "They're against street crime, providing that street isn't Wall Street." #GeorgeCarlin, talking about #Republicans | Sep 26 02:07 | |
| msb | I love Motown! Strangely, a lot of the greatest songs were written by Burt Bacharach, a Jewish white guy. | Sep 26 02:10 |
| msb | However, "Don't Leave Me This Way", best covered by Thelma Houston, one of my favorites, was not. | Sep 26 02:13 |
| schestowitz | This Diana Ross streak covers also his renditions of other people's songs | Sep 26 02:13 |
| schestowitz | Frankly, all this industry involved non0-musicians who are performers | Sep 26 02:13 |
| schestowitz | Thwey don't do notes, they just sing based on intuition | Sep 26 02:13 |
| schestowitz | And serve as 'front end' to composers of American classics | Sep 26 02:14 |
| schestowitz | Thse days it's worse than ever | Sep 26 02:14 |
| schestowitz | Nobody even plays instruments, it's all digitised | Sep 26 02:14 |
| schestowitz | So you have some studio 'band' (machine) with a songer that can't do music, not professionally, just sing and pase for shots | Sep 26 02:14 |
| schestowitz | They killed what music used to be | Sep 26 02:15 |
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| schestowitz | Well paid virtuosos and people who sing as a professional career choice | Sep 26 02:15 |
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| schestowitz | At least 'Lady Gaga' can play keyboard | Sep 26 02:15 |
| schestowitz | So there are a few 'stars' left who know how music works | Sep 26 02:16 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: synthesizers are not new | Sep 26 02:16 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Sep 26 02:16 |
| DaemonFC | why the rant now? | Sep 26 02:16 |
| schestowitz | They didn't exist 50-60 years ago | Sep 26 02:16 |
| schestowitz | The moogle machine as it | Sep 26 02:17 |
| schestowitz | Or the french tape splicing | Sep 26 02:17 |
| schestowitz | The roots of stuff like grandmaster flash | Sep 26 02:17 |
| schestowitz | I have a track about the history and all, but anyway, there was also the issue of recorded music | Sep 26 02:17 |
| schestowitz | People would not sing to one another | Sep 26 02:17 |
| schestowitz | Or practice their vocal chords | Sep 26 02:17 |
| schestowitz | and people who can perform music would be replaced by MAFIAA and such stuff | Sep 26 02:18 |
| schestowitz | Arti declining | Sep 26 02:18 |
| schestowitz | LOL http://twitter.com/keithccurtis/status/118130827564552192?iid=am-156194753213169995589034636&nid=4+status_timestamp&uid=26603208 | Sep 26 02:18 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @keithccurtis: @schestowitz @clacke @lamm I hate your steady stream idiotic ignorant liberal lies. http://t.co/nERlKCaP | Sep 26 02:18 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Sep 26 02:18 |
| schestowitz | The Microsoft booster hates "liberals" | Sep 26 02:18 |
| schestowitz | LOL | Sep 26 02:18 |
| schestowitz | He takes it so personally | Sep 26 02:18 |
| schestowitz | Just proves what he really is | Sep 26 02:19 |
| schestowitz | I need to sleep but I'm high oncoffee | Sep 26 02:19 |
| schestowitz | no ideal what to do | Sep 26 02:19 |
| schestowitz | *idea | Sep 26 02:19 |
| *schestowitz checks usenet | Sep 26 02:19 | |
| msb | This song is contemporary and pretty good: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdSO3pXnzcY | Sep 26 02:20 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Iyeoka - The Yellow Brick Road Song - YouTube .::. Size~: 89.63 KB | Sep 26 02:20 |
| schestowitz | Drajma queen snit boy is trolling again | Sep 26 02:20 |
| schestowitz | digging for dirt for drama | Sep 26 02:20 |
| schestowitz | I'll just outright ban him next time | Sep 26 02:20 |
| msb | Note the shadow of the WTC that was apparently photoshopped onto another building in the video. | Sep 26 02:21 |
| msb | Isn't "DrPizza" a Microsoft agent also? | Sep 26 02:23 |
| msb | I think Flatfish was bragging about that a while back. | Sep 26 02:24 |
| msb | At least we have recordings of all the good music from the '50s through the '80s. | Sep 26 02:25 |
| msb | We'll be like those old folks who have their ancient Caruso records. | Sep 26 02:26 |
| schestowitz | [02:23] <msb> Isn't "DrPizza" a Microsoft agent also? | Sep 26 02:29 |
| schestowitz | He does .NET for a living, I think | Sep 26 02:29 |
| msb | Well, there ya go. | Sep 26 02:29 |
| schestowitz | And for cash on the side he does Microsoft boosting using the rag Arse Technicaca | Sep 26 02:29 |
| msb | I think flatfish said he was spying on the channel here. | Sep 26 02:30 |
| schestowitz | LOL | Sep 26 02:30 |
| schestowitz | spyng.. | Sep 26 02:30 |
| schestowitz | That's like me spying on the weather forecast | Sep 26 02:30 |
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| msb | Or selling pirate versions of Linux. | Sep 26 02:31 |
| XFaCE | Yes! Very yes! It is a good day. | Sep 26 02:31 |
| schestowitz | Funny that you mentioned this now cause I was so bored maybe post the logs to burn time | Sep 26 02:31 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: Common sense has prevailed. | Sep 26 02:31 |
| schestowitz | XFaCE: pls tell | Sep 26 02:31 |
| schestowitz | btw, wiki spammers ar a thing of the past, for now.. | Sep 26 02:32 |
| schestowitz | Then again, so are new wiki members | Sep 26 02:32 |
| XFaCE | :( | Sep 26 02:32 |
| schestowitz | maybe I'll revert back to the open reg later | Sep 26 02:32 |
| XFaCE | Ok | Sep 26 02:32 |
| XFaCE | Anywho, to the story | Sep 26 02:32 |
| DaemonFC | Banshee and Mono seem to target Ubuntu more than OpenSuse now | Sep 26 02:32 |
| schestowitz | what's opensuse | Sep 26 02:33 |
| XFaCE | If you remember last week's IRC information flow, you'll also remember the story I told of a University lab I had where we were going to use Microsoft Sharepoint Designer to create a web page. | Sep 26 02:34 |
| schestowitz | it's that SLED ashtray | Sep 26 02:34 |
| *schestowitz didn't know diana ross performed in the 2008 nobel prize ceremony.. | Sep 26 02:34 | |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: Except that Sharepoint Designer is incompatible with the Linux-powered class server we have set up; Sharepoint servers only. | Sep 26 02:34 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC, you remember this story. | Sep 26 02:35 |
| XFaCE | Where my time and the time of every other students attending these tutorials was wasted by Microsoft myopia | Sep 26 02:35 |
| XFaCE | Well, guess what just popped up on my new feed | Sep 26 02:35 |
| DaemonFC | I believe I said if it pays you to use their stuff at work, hold your nose | Sep 26 02:36 |
| XFaCE | "We will be using the HTML Editor named NVU (pronounced N-view) [...] This software is available on ALL MACHINES ON CAMPUS [...] and is available for free download and install on your own Mac, PC and *Linux* systems here." | Sep 26 02:37 |
| DaemonFC | ideally you'd find an outfit using Linux | Sep 26 02:37 |
| DaemonFC | but money is money | Sep 26 02:37 |
| DaemonFC | nvu is obsolete | Sep 26 02:37 |
| DaemonFC | replaced by komposer | Sep 26 02:37 |
| DaemonFC | err | Sep 26 02:37 |
| DaemonFC | kompozer | Sep 26 02:37 |
| XFaCE | Yes, but it is a step forward | Sep 26 02:37 |
| DaemonFC | grab kompozer | Sep 26 02:37 |
| XFaCE | I can use Kompozer or Bluefish and still follow along, thanks to the magic of FLOSS communities not being myopic to each other. | Sep 26 02:38 |
| DaemonFC | it's not exactly the same | Sep 26 02:38 |
| DaemonFC | but it has lots of bugs fixed | Sep 26 02:38 |
| DaemonFC | new features | Sep 26 02:38 |
| DaemonFC | new standards support | Sep 26 02:38 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC & Schestowitz: *Linux emphasized in that quote FTW | Sep 26 02:38 |
| DaemonFC | it's close enough that you should be able to use it in class | Sep 26 02:38 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC: Exactly. The fact that a) It is a common FLOSS tool that is similar to other, newer FLOSS tools and b) The fact that the university actually acknowledged desktop Linux is a win in my books (eh Schestowitz)? | Sep 26 02:39 |
| XFaCE | Also, I had two other university/linux encounters last week, schestowitz | Sep 26 02:40 |
| *schestowitz in another workspace atm | Sep 26 02:40 | |
| XFaCE | One was a guy's USB drive with Fedora Live clearly on it | Sep 26 02:40 |
| XFaCE | and the other was actually using remote Scientific Linux through a Sun workstation to run an application remotely on Windows 2008 (??) | Sep 26 02:41 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC: I'll take what I can get. | Sep 26 02:41 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC: If they said "we're going to use Seamonkey", it'd be a step forward. Or Emacs, for that matter. | Sep 26 02:42 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: Happy time, like I said. :) | Sep 26 02:42 |
| msb | DaemonFC: Thanks for Kompozer! I gotta start writing my website html with something better than a text editor. | Sep 26 02:42 |
| DaemonFC | make sure you have Nvu | Sep 26 02:42 |
| DaemonFC | and Mozilla Application Suite! | Sep 26 02:42 |
| DaemonFC | and Netscape Communicator! | Sep 26 02:42 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Sep 26 02:42 |
| XFaCE | I have Seamonkey Composer, I guess that's close enough :P | Sep 26 02:43 |
| XFaCE | Never thought I may actually use it, DaemonFC MSB | Sep 26 02:43 |
| DaemonFC | no, Kompozer will be merged with it soon though | Sep 26 02:43 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC: With Seamonkey? | Sep 26 02:43 |
| DaemonFC | they're both still forked and have different bugs and features | Sep 26 02:43 |
| DaemonFC | but Seamonkey Composer is also good for basic html | Sep 26 02:43 |
| DaemonFC | yeah | Sep 26 02:43 |
| DaemonFC | as soon as Kompozer 0.8 is ouy is the plan to merge it back into Seamonkey I believe | Sep 26 02:44 |
| DaemonFC | *out | Sep 26 02:44 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC: Kompozer hasn't been updated since 2010 | Sep 26 02:44 |
| XFaCE | Daemonfc: what about http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BlueGriffon ? | Sep 26 02:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: BlueGriffon - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 46.16 KB | Sep 26 02:44 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC: That's what I meant by "BlueFish", oops :P | Sep 26 02:45 |
| DaemonFC | Nvu is abandoned | Sep 26 02:45 |
| DaemonFC | since Linspire stopped funding it | Sep 26 02:45 |
| XFaCE | That's a fact | Sep 26 02:45 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC: Bluegriffon is the NVU successor from the original NVU author | Sep 26 02:45 |
| DaemonFC | forks suck | Sep 26 02:46 |
| DaemonFC | they're duplicated effort and they all have problems and features the others don't | Sep 26 02:46 |
| Diablo-D3 | fail | Sep 26 02:46 |
| Diablo-D3 | real men use vim | Sep 26 02:46 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC: Well, technically, Bluegriffon isn't a gork | Sep 26 02:46 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC: Emacs... | Sep 26 02:46 |
| msb | OT, another thing I've been occupied with around here is stopping the cooking/frying smoke coming up from the apartment below. Needed 10 feet of 8-inch flexible plastic duct. After much research, turned out it's available at any of several hydroponics supply stores within 30 miles of Palo Alto. | Sep 26 02:47 |
| DaemonFC | http://bluegriffon.org/ | Sep 26 02:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: BlueGriffon, The next-generation Web Editor based on the rendering engine of Firefox .::. Size~: 24.75 KB | Sep 26 02:47 |
| DaemonFC | looks ok | Sep 26 02:47 |
| msb | Their customers ain't growing tomatoes! | Sep 26 02:47 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC: yeah, looks newer than Kompozer, as good as it is | Sep 26 02:48 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC: Gecko 1.8 vs 2.0 | Sep 26 02:49 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC: Your thoughts? | Sep 26 02:49 |
| DaemonFC | one's newer :) | Sep 26 02:50 |
| DaemonFC | I try to use software that's still maintained | Sep 26 02:50 |
| DaemonFC | [21:48] <ender_2600> as it turns out I was banned by a freemasons son on techrights | Sep 26 02:51 |
| DaemonFC | [21:49] <ender_2600> for esentially ripping on freemasons | Sep 26 02:51 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Sep 26 02:51 |
| XFaCE | Freemason being codename for everyone? | Sep 26 02:51 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC: Makes sense. Seamonkey Composer could be enough for me, but definitely would be too primitive for more advanced users | Sep 26 02:52 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC: How about W3C's editor, http://www.w3.org/Amaya/ ? | Sep 26 02:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Amaya Home Page .::. Size~: 8.23 KB | Sep 26 02:52 |
| *schestowitz wonders is Stallman is a Freemessiah | Sep 26 02:53 | |
| schestowitz | html editors are for people who antagonise CMSes | Sep 26 02:53 |
| schestowitz | There's not much need for html WYSIWYG editors anymore | Sep 26 02:53 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: I thought your were busy! Inconsistent! I must leave dozens of condescending messages against you. | Sep 26 02:54 |
| schestowitz | Damn, I need to sleep, my head says don't bother' | Sep 26 02:54 |
| schestowitz | It'll be light soon :/ grr... | Sep 26 02:54 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: Come live in Canada, it's still 9:00 pm | Sep 26 02:54 |
| msb | Everyone pretty much _is_ a freemason, because we're all totally controlled by the supercomputer composed of the merged minds of Neanderthals living 10 miles below the surface of the earth. | Sep 26 02:54 |
| schestowitz | it would be later by the time I land | Sep 26 02:54 |
| XFaCE | Actually, 9:53, but whatever | Sep 26 02:54 |
| schestowitz | *will have been | Sep 26 02:55 |
| Diablo-D3 | >10 miles | Sep 26 02:55 |
| Diablo-D3 | que? | Sep 26 02:55 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: Come to Canada! Fight the radical right-wing reformists? | Sep 26 02:55 |
| schestowitz | ooooh | Sep 26 02:55 |
| XFaCE | Diablo-D3: Pourquoi? | Sep 26 02:55 |
| schestowitz | got an email from mit a moment ago | Sep 26 02:55 |
| msb | Diablo-D3: According to ender_2600 | Sep 26 02:55 |
| schestowitz | ender is a reformist? | Sep 26 02:56 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: Did you read the whole good news story I just wrote? | Sep 26 02:56 |
| Diablo-D3 | msb: I have him on ignore | Sep 26 02:56 |
| schestowitz | XFaCE: oh | Sep 26 02:56 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: I was refering to the Harpocracy gang, but ok. | Sep 26 02:56 |
| msb | Diablo-D3: I am not making that up. That's what he actually says. | Sep 26 02:56 |
| schestowitz | What about that copyright story? | Sep 26 02:56 |
| Diablo-D3 | msb: hes on ignore because hes a troll | Sep 26 02:57 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: Err, no. The university story. Here. In the IRC channel. | Sep 26 02:57 |
| msb | He's also banned here. | Sep 26 02:57 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: The quasi-win for FLOSS | Sep 26 02:57 |
| XFaCE | msb: A shame, I think I distracted him sometimes | Sep 26 02:58 |
| XFaCE | msb: I could have been the bridge to his paranoia radical-ist self | Sep 26 02:59 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxconfau/@linuxconfau] RT @kblin Just signed up for @linuxconfau 2012, where I'll be giving a talk about #antiSMASH (http://is.gd/ZhAbud), can't wait for January. | Sep 26 02:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Links – Wintel OEM Revolt., Various Environmental and Civil Issues. http://is.gd/BhRaIC #techrights | Sep 26 02:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links – Wintel OEM Revolt., Various Environmental and Civil Issues. http://is.gd/BhRaIC !techrights | Sep 26 02:59 | |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: See the story? | Sep 26 02:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: linux.conf.au 2012 | 16 - 20 Jan | Under the stars .::. Size~: 20.41 KB | Sep 26 02:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Links – Wintel OEM Revolt., Various Environmental and Civil Issues. | Techrights .::. Size~: 106.11 KB | Sep 26 02:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Links – Wintel OEM Revolt., Various Environmental and Civil Issues. | Techrights .::. Size~: 106.11 KB | Sep 26 02:59 |
| msb | He also made a lot of remarks supporting the Microsoft anti-Linux guys. | Sep 26 02:59 |
| XFaCE | msb: Of late | Sep 26 03:01 |
| XFaCE | It wasn't always like that | Sep 26 03:01 |
| msb | Calling Linux people "zealots", for example. | Sep 26 03:01 |
| XFaCE | msb: lol, that's hypocritical for sure | Sep 26 03:02 |
| msb | I don't think he was working for Microsoft, just trolling in the classical sense to get a reaction. | Sep 26 03:02 |
| XFaCE | msb: Is he still on a Fedora team? | Sep 26 03:02 |
| msb | I don't know what he does. | Sep 26 03:03 |
| XFaCE | msb: He was on some sort of Fedora team, a promotion-oriented one if I remember correctly. | Sep 26 03:04 |
| XFaCE | msb: He was on a Techbytes episode about his role | Sep 26 03:05 |
| msb | Ah. well thank goodness Fedora hasn't been infiltrated by the Freemasons. | Sep 26 03:05 |
| XFaCE | But enough about him. It's just depressing. | Sep 26 03:05 |
| XFaCE | Happy topics from now on!! *CLAP CLAP!* | Sep 26 03:06 |
| XFaCE | msb: Did you have a good day? | Sep 26 03:07 |
| msb | Yep, learned a lot, talked with good folks here, and via IHU a Linux guy on the other side of the world. | Sep 26 03:08 |
| XFaCE | msb: Good, good. | Sep 26 03:08 |
| XFaCE | Hey schestowitz, DaemonFC, Diablo-D3, et al., still here? | Sep 26 03:09 |
| msb | IHU is a great VOIP app -- easy to set up and very good voice quality. http://ihu.sourceforge.net/download.html | Sep 26 03:09 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: IHU Download .::. Size~: 5.27 KB | Sep 26 03:09 |
| XFaCE | msb: I believe I've seen it before. Perhaps you listed it in the Techrights wiki page about VOIP clients? | Sep 26 03:11 |
| msb | No, but I guess I should. Needs only one port open, much simpler than SIP. Although you have to know the ip-address of the person you're calling, which is easy to get. | Sep 26 03:12 |
| XFaCE | msb: BTW, before I retire for the night, I recommend you look into Bluegriffon over Kompozer for a Mozilla-based editor. Kompozer seems to dying | Sep 26 03:13 |
| msb | XFaCE: which, this one? http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/SIP_Software I don't see a page for VOIP in general. | Sep 26 03:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: SIP Software - Techrights .::. Size~: 14.16 KB | Sep 26 03:14 |
| msb | XFaCE: Thanks! Will do. | Sep 26 03:14 |
| XFaCE | msb: yeah, that page | Sep 26 03:14 |
| msb | IHU doesn't do SIP, just simple host-to-host VOIP. | Sep 26 03:15 |
| schestowitz | msb: so create one :-) | Sep 26 03:15 |
| msb | I've tried various SIP clients and never gotten any to work reliably on my machine. | Sep 26 03:15 |
| DaemonFC | Ekiga is the least horrible | Sep 26 03:15 |
| DaemonFC | Linphone is pretty bad | Sep 26 03:16 |
| msb | Ekiga works intermittently for me. | Sep 26 03:16 |
| msb | IHU is perfect. Like being in the same room. | Sep 26 03:16 |
| msb | I just use the static binary. | Sep 26 03:17 |
| XFaCE | neat, will have to try | Sep 26 03:17 |
| XFaCE | If I ever have a VOIP need | Sep 26 03:18 |
| msb | Try it now, we could talk. | Sep 26 03:18 |
| XFaCE | Unfortunately, I really do have to go | Sep 26 03:18 |
| XFaCE | getting up at 6:00am, down the caffiene | Sep 26 03:19 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] My first audiocast: http://ur1.ca/56ysm !Mageia !Linux !Mandriva !Mdv !Fedora !PCLOS !UnityLinux !Debian #Ubuntu !Unity !Gnome !KDE !Mint | Sep 26 03:19 | |
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| XFaCE | ThistleWeb is planning to use http://mumble.sourceforge.net/, but I'll pass along IHU as an alternative to him MSB | Sep 26 03:20 |
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| XFaCE | Good night all! | Sep 26 03:21 |
| XFaCE | (schestowitz, daemonfc, diablo-d3, msb, gnufreex, sebsebseb, mincer, cubezzz, et al.) | Sep 26 03:22 |
| msb | You can call yourself at 127.0.0.1 and immediately find out if you're mike and speakers are hooked into IHU correctly. | Sep 26 03:22 |
| msb | Good night! | Sep 26 03:22 |
| msb | your | Sep 26 03:22 |
| DaemonFC | or use the echo system | Sep 26 03:22 |
| msb | It's not SIP. | Sep 26 03:22 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxconfau/@linuxconfau] linux.conf.au #LCA2012 announces @Intel @IntelANZ as King Penguin Sponsor! Thank you! http://bit.ly/o7JQ0D #sponsorsareawesome | Sep 26 03:27 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Sorry, because #identica does not provide threaded conversations I no longer know what I was responding to there. !problematic | Sep 26 03:59 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] How a $16.7 million media centre metamorphosized into an Olympic-sized rink in Huntsville ⇒!Canada gets snowed http://ur1.ca/57076 !CdnPoli | Sep 26 04:11 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Good tips for Isabella Loh, CEO of WRS on how to communicate - http://ur1.ca/570g0 | Sep 26 04:32 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: TODAYonline | Commentary | Halloween Horrors fiasco: Why 'sorry' isn't quite enough .::. Size~: 92.51 KB | Sep 26 04:32 |
| DaemonFC | Jabba is eating a Funion I dropped | Sep 26 04:33 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Sep 26 04:33 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] It is DRM to enforce US law. Canadian law allows digital copying, US law does not. DRM enforces American Law in !Canada a #SovereignState | Sep 26 04:42 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] seriously guys, @tekk@tekk.smuns.ch.... if you had me before you need to remove & readd b/c moved to fancy URLs | Sep 26 05:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] I'm not entirely sure what you mean by "copyright abusers." Is a copyright abuser one who steals work from the public domain to copyright it | Sep 26 05:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] RT @dee A norm I fear that sites like Facebook and Google+ are setting: having "friends" is becoming necessary and the whole point of be ... | Sep 26 05:57 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] In Canada I am legally allowed to scan/photograph money if it is single sided OR larger or smaller than legal tender. That is the law. | Sep 26 07:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] "The new Windows Internet Explorer 9 allows you to download Firefox or Chrome even faster..." :) http://ur1.ca/571wp | Sep 26 07:02 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Neither software nor hardware should ever have the right to dictate human behaviour. | Sep 26 07:09 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] Baidu, Inc. joined as a new W3C Member. http://www.baidu.com/ | Sep 26 07:41 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: In Nairobi will set out my vision 4 internet governance & visit local #ICT & #developmen http://p.ost.im/p/e2MLEH | Sep 26 07:54 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] No. | Sep 26 08:04 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] gestemd voor "Debian (or ubuntu, linux mint, etc)" | Sep 26 08:19 | |
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| schestowitz | the markets are crashing again because of a talk about a multi-trillion Europa rescue plan | Sep 26 08:37 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Another episode of TechBytes to come this week. Episode 61 (Mageia GNU/Linux and SebSebSeb) online since Sat. http://is.gd/fKxSmU | Sep 26 08:46 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/clacke/status/118223708941860865 | Sep 26 08:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @clacke: @keithccurtis @schestowitz @lamm Fair enough. They're all in bed with #wallstreet. Better? If I could vote there, I would vote @DavidBrin1 . | Sep 26 08:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 18 of Linux software's unsung stars http://is.gd/jsRsHQ "Here, we salute some of the things that make using Linux so enjoyable." | Sep 26 08:52 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: 18 of Linux software's unsung stars | News | TechRadar UK .::. Size~: 75.48 KB | Sep 26 08:52 |
| schestowitz | There seems to be a correlation between mental health issues and trolling COLA | Sep 26 08:59 |
| schestowitz | Well, and trolling in general, I guess | Sep 26 08:59 |
| schestowitz | http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/Microsoft-defends-Windows-8-secure-boot-requirement-without-mentioning-the-Lword/?kc=rss | Sep 26 09:11 |
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| MinceR | r4wr | Sep 26 09:13 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Occupy Wall Street Protesters Kettled and Pepper-Sprayed by NYPD [Video] http://is.gd/M7jNBw why is the police protecting criminals? | Sep 26 09:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] When #Monsanto's Patents Expire - http://bit.ly/n4qfst NB: "the patents’ expiration will likely further expand the use of #GM organisms" | Sep 26 09:26 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Why #reprap is here to win. http://ur1.ca/573g8 400 EUR v 12k EUR http://ww... http://b1t.it/D5r | Sep 26 09:36 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] A Few Million Monkeys Randomly Recreate #Shakespeare - http://bit.ly/qwEHkP #opensource virtual monkeys in the cloud, that is... | Sep 26 09:42 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Delhi HC issues yet another John Doe order to protect Speedy Singhs - http://bit.ly/qSY062 dangerously routine #india #copyright | Sep 26 09:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Asus Eee PC X101 !MeeGo netbook: First impressions of a $200 laptop http://is.gd/zJXDPj | Sep 26 09:44 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: SPICY IP: Guest Post: Delhi HC issues yet another John Doe order to protect Speedy Singhs .::. Size~: 129.3 KB | Sep 26 09:44 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Android Mobile Ad Impressions Up 48 Percent, iOS Remains Flat http://is.gd/431cNN Growth area, but not for Apple... #android #linux | Sep 26 09:47 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Met #Police rejects FOI request about payments to Carter Ruck - http://bit.ly/qVDUys outrageous obstructionism #foi | Sep 26 09:59 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !InconstantMoon for a Monday http://ur1.ca/573ld !SelfPub | Sep 26 10:01 | |
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| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/84276410 | Sep 26 10:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Rob Connolly (robconnolly)'s status on Monday, 26-Sep-11 08:48:26 UTC - Identi.ca: Nice, good to see an OEM going back to basics with their netbook offerings. | Sep 26 10:05 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Logging out of #Facebook is not enough - http://bit.ly/qenn4C this looks very worrying #privacy | Sep 26 10:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Health Care Front Group Provides New Clothes for GOP Medicare Privatization Plan http://is.gd/GPXa08 monetising deaths | Sep 26 10:06 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Nik Cubrilovic Blog - Logging out of Facebook is not enough .::. Size~: 12.51 KB | Sep 26 10:06 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/CajunTechie/status/118232704851513344 | Sep 26 10:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @CajunTechie: @schestowitz Can't quite find an answer to this. Like #Xfce a lot but what's it based on? GTK? #Linux | Sep 26 10:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Michele Bachmann Envisions a World Without Food Industry Safety Standards - http://bit.ly/pQTh4p US wants to out-do #china... | Sep 26 10:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Android, at a glance http://is.gd/Crlgei "Java SDK is, perhaps, one of the most important advantages of Android" | Sep 26 10:07 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @glynmoody Michele Bachmann Envisions a World Without Food Industry Safety Standards - http://bit.ly/pQTh4p US wants to out-do #china... | Sep 26 10:11 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Farron Cousins | Michele Bachmann Envisions a World Without Food Industry Safety Standards .::. Size~: 43.82 KB | Sep 26 10:11 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @dekaminski: A great event 2 come: #Internet and #DemocraticChange more info here t.co/b5ysc5DE #net4change #arabrevolutions #democracy | Sep 26 10:12 | |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/84276663 | Sep 26 10:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @laurelrusswurm (laurelrusswurm)'s status on Monday, 26-Sep-11 09:09:35 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz What a fabulous image :) | Sep 26 10:14 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ASUS Eee Pad Slider Lands in USA and Canada http://is.gd/LMp60A "NewEgg is offering the tablet in both the 16GB and 32GB version" | Sep 26 10:14 | |
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| schestowitz | CMD uses the wolf in sheep clothing image a lot | Sep 26 10:15 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Kauder verspricht 2-Strikes-Warnmodell - http://bit.ly/qNYVcg looks bad: #german politician proposing *two strikes* warning #copyright | Sep 26 10:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] help, please: Heathrow's Terminal 5 wanted fingerprint biometrics for all, but it was blocked for a while: do they take fingerprints now? | Sep 26 10:19 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @glynmoody Logging out of #Facebook is not enough - http://bit.ly/qenn4C this looks very worrying #privacy | Sep 26 10:26 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Nik Cubrilovic Blog - Logging out of Facebook is not enough .::. Size~: 12.51 KB | Sep 26 10:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] if ya have to use #Facebook, the answer to it's #privacy invasion is to have a browser profile exclusively for #fb & nothing else | Sep 26 10:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Samsung to open source Bada next year. Will they use !Meego to do it? http://is.gd/rHee8H #linux | Sep 26 10:31 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] At the beginning of the year LG (S. Korea) said it would adopt MeeGo, S. Korea said it would make a FS OS,now Samsung (S. Korea) says so too | Sep 26 10:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] re #Facebook cookies (http://bit.ly/qenn4C): there's a reply from Facebook engineer as first comment - worth reading (v @shaver) | Sep 26 10:32 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Nik Cubrilovic Blog - Logging out of Facebook is not enough .::. Size~: 12.51 KB | Sep 26 10:32 |
| schestowitz | What poor logic http://www.newvision.co.ug/D/8/459/765749 | Sep 26 10:37 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: New Vision Online : Wikileaks could be work of CIA .::. Size~: 23.47 KB | Sep 26 10:37 |
| schestowitz | If it's bad for some US enemies, therefore it's the CIA? | Sep 26 10:37 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "The Sleman government will use a free open source operation system in its office computers" http://is.gd/5i0E2N | Sep 26 10:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Hello. I thought it would be a good idea to joinas I link to people here | Sep 26 10:37 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Tempointeraktif.com - Sleman to Use Open Source Computer System .::. Size~: 23.7 KB | Sep 26 10:37 |
| schestowitz | Like those who think that as 9/11 help start wars for oil, then it must have been perpetrated by the govt. | Sep 26 10:38 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] voted for "Red Hat (or fedora, centOS, etc)" | Sep 26 10:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Android had 42.9per cent of the market last month...ABC yesterday to get over its Apple fixation." http://is.gd/mRsxul | Sep 26 10:42 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Calls for the ABC to shed Apple fixation - National News - National - General - The Canberra Times .::. Size~: 90.77 KB | Sep 26 10:42 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] GTK+ 3.2 Released With HTML5 (Allows Applications To Run In A Web Browser) And Wayland Backends Support http://identi.ca/url/53879033 !gnome | Sep 26 10:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] A New Life for an Older Laptop http://ur1.ca/574ar #hardware #software #laptop #notebook | Sep 26 10:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Atv #OWF someone asked HOWTO force Facebook to hand over data about you - http://ur1.ca/56zkx | Sep 26 10:46 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @meskarune Poll: What Linux distro do you use? http://ur1.ca/56ydw | Sep 26 10:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @webupd8 GTK+ 3.2 Released With HTML5 (Allows Applications To Run In A Web Browser) And Wayland Backends Support http://identi.ca/url ... | Sep 26 10:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz "Android had 42.9per cent of the market last month...ABC yesterday to get over its Apple fixation." http://is.gd/mRsxul | Sep 26 10:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz "The Sleman government will use a free open source operation system in its office computers" http://is.gd/5i0E2N | Sep 26 10:52 | |
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| MinceR | http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3034093 | Sep 26 10:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Hacker News | Just a note: Neither Ghostery or Disconnect work in Chrome, since Chrome doesn't... .::. Size~: 6.19 KB | Sep 26 10:54 |
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| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/84277140 | Sep 26 11:02 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @RÄzvan Sandu (rsandu)'s status on Monday, 26-Sep-11 09:48:49 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Do you like DIASPORA* ? | Sep 26 11:02 |
| schestowitz | Never used it | Sep 26 11:02 |
| DaemonFC | The Simple Blue theme for Firefox is busted on nightly now :( | Sep 26 11:03 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #BBC Sues Berlusconi’s Mediaset Over Ballroom Dancing Program http://is.gd/9cT5dY 'stealing' so-called 'ideas' | Sep 26 11:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @x11r5 "how to enslave the human race has come out on their context menus and nepomuk and strigi have gone back to #joomla | Sep 26 11:04 | |
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| DaemonFC | strigi and nepomuk seem to mostly guzzle memory, crash, and complain if you disable them | Sep 26 11:05 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz I played around with that kubuntu low fat settings package | Sep 26 11:06 |
| DaemonFC | it does trim down KDE quite a lot but it bitches now and then that nepomuk isn't running | Sep 26 11:06 |
| DaemonFC | really all it does is shut down services that most people don't need | Sep 26 11:07 |
| DaemonFC | you could do the exact same thing yourself | Sep 26 11:07 |
| DaemonFC | I remember there being a guide of useless Windows services that you could shut down to save memory | Sep 26 11:08 |
| DaemonFC | ever since Vista, there's so many you don't even know where to start | Sep 26 11:08 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3034093 | Sep 26 11:10 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Hacker News | Just a note: Neither Ghostery or Disconnect work in Chrome, since Chrome doesn't... .::. Size~: 6.19 KB | Sep 26 11:10 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] Das neue Facebook: Nix wie raus hier http://ur1.ca/573xa Bei #Facebook bist du das Produkt, nicht der Kunde. !fsfe | Sep 26 11:11 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Das neue Facebook: Nix wie raus hier » Von karstengerloff » netzpolitik.org .::. Size~: 80.78 KB | Sep 26 11:11 |
| DaemonFC | Chrome is mostly hype | Sep 26 11:11 |
| DaemonFC | it's worse than Firefox in most ways | Sep 26 11:11 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[faither/@faither] voted for "Arch Linux" | Sep 26 11:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @jwildeboer Why #reprap is here to win. http://ur1.ca/573g8 400 EUR v 12k EUR http://ww... http://b1t.it/D5r | Sep 26 11:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @corris @support twitterbridge working on !identica - will this also be enabled on StatusNet cloud accounts? | Sep 26 11:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @jwildeboer Atv #OWF someone asked HOWTO force Facebook to hand over data about you - http://ur1.ca/56zkx | Sep 26 11:21 | |
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| DaemonFC | well, that's creepy | Sep 26 11:31 |
| DaemonFC | now I have people walking through my yard | Sep 26 11:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @jamie_love KEI semi-live live blog on #WIPO General Assembly http://ur1.ca/574xw | Sep 26 11:32 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: WIPO General Assembly begins week long meeting | Knowledge Ecology International .::. Size~: 20.95 KB | Sep 26 11:32 |
| schestowitz | Wow. My CV is out of date (~2003 for last major revision), so I'll restructure it with publications as well. | Sep 26 11:39 |
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| DaemonFC | I don't know why, but my cat seems to think he has to rub up against everything and then bite my arm now and then | Sep 26 11:45 |
| DaemonFC | annoying :P | Sep 26 11:45 |
| DaemonFC | http://yro.slashdot.org/story/11/09/26/0126255/microsoft-patents-module-based-smartphone | Sep 26 11:46 |
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| DaemonFC | haven't these existed for several years now? | Sep 26 11:46 |
| DaemonFC | I remember having a phone with a slide out keyboard in like 2002 | Sep 26 11:46 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/09/26/11-year-old-shoots-sister-while-playing-csi-at-indiana-home/ | Sep 26 11:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: 11-Year-Old Shoots Sister While 'Playing CSI' At Indiana Home | Fox News .::. Size~: 56.84 KB | Sep 26 11:49 |
| DaemonFC | fail | Sep 26 11:49 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.chron.com/news/article/Gun-law-author-Gun-owners-must-act-responsibly-2188126.php | Sep 26 11:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Gun law author: Gun owners must act responsibly - Houston Chronicle .::. Size~: 54.9 KB | Sep 26 11:50 |
| DaemonFC | state gun laws now preempt local ones in Indiana | Sep 26 11:50 |
| DaemonFC | not like there were any local restrictions here that were tougher than state laws anyway | Sep 26 11:50 |
| DaemonFC | the only one I can think of is, carrying a firearm into the courthouse is a $2,500 fine unless you're a police officer | Sep 26 11:51 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.ibj.com/panel-predicts-state-power-rates-will-rise-20-percent-in-6-years/PARAMS/article/29757 | Sep 26 11:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Panel predicts state power rates will rise 20 percent in 6 years | 2011-09-26 | Indianapolis Business Journal | IBJ.com .::. Size~: 88.07 KB | Sep 26 11:52 |
| DaemonFC | raise rates, blame environmental laws | Sep 26 11:53 |
| DaemonFC | they want to raise rates now over laws that "may" take effect in 8-10 years | Sep 26 11:53 |
| DaemonFC | heh | Sep 26 11:53 |
| DaemonFC | "Duke Energy wants ratepayers to fund carbon dioxide storage site study" | Sep 26 11:54 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] ♻ @karsten: Das neue Facebook: Nix wie raus hier http://ur1.ca/573xa Bei #Facebook bist du das Produkt, nicht der Kunde. !fs !gnu | Sep 26 11:54 | |
| DaemonFC | I'd like Duke Energy to fund an electric grid that doesn't crap out every time the wind blows | Sep 26 11:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Das neue Facebook: Nix wie raus hier » Von karstengerloff » netzpolitik.org .::. Size~: 86.92 KB | Sep 26 11:54 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Sep 26 11:54 |
| DaemonFC | we should just export carbon dioxide emissions to China, like we have been :) | Sep 26 11:55 |
| DaemonFC | not like it can harm us then :D | Sep 26 11:55 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Any freelance, european based Midlleware consultants around? Have work for you. JBoss knowledge a must. Contact me in private. | Sep 26 11:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Chinese reporter detained for article on official's sex slavery - http://bit.ly/ndHiWY accused of “revealing state secrets” (v @Asher_Wolf) | Sep 26 11:56 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Reporter detained for article on sex slavery « UNCUT .::. Size~: 31.5 KB | Sep 26 11:56 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laforge/@laforge] *sigh* I buy a new core i5 based server and #debian disables #aesni hardware crypto in their #linux kernel builds :(( | Sep 26 12:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laforge/@laforge] really looking forward to meet some friends in #seoul #korea later this week! | Sep 26 12:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @jwildeboer Any freelance, european based Midlleware consultants around? Have work for you. JBoss knowledge a must. Contact me in pri ... | Sep 26 12:02 | |
| schestowitz | hi, DaemonFC | Sep 26 12:10 |
| schestowitz | Wall of text | Sep 26 12:10 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Sep 26 12:10 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/84276870 | Sep 26 12:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Monday, 26-Sep-11 09:27:14 UTC - Identi.ca: Will the public sector ever be an open house? http://is.gd/N4nF6z "In any case, open source adoption in the wider market is now soaring." | Sep 26 12:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> Title: Will the public sector ever be an open house?- 19 Sep 2011 - CRN UK News Analysis .::. Size~: 94.66 KB | Sep 26 12:11 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/84276662 | Sep 26 12:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Monday, 26-Sep-11 09:09:24 UTC - Identi.ca: Markets in Asia down. EU crashing this week because of talks about a multi-trillion European rescue plan http://is.gd/wBdi9O #debt #economy | Sep 26 12:11 |
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| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/84275877 | Sep 26 12:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Monday, 26-Sep-11 07:58:14 UTC - Identi.ca: First Look at #Ubuntu 11.10 Beta 2 http://is.gd/HdVQs4 "Ubuntu 11.10 “Oneiric Ocelot” Beta 2 has been released." | Sep 26 12:12 |
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| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/84275823 | Sep 26 12:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Monday, 26-Sep-11 07:53:42 UTC - Identi.ca: Microsoft must love comparisons of OSes _from different years_. A real OS versus vapourware put in the same ring http://is.gd/P1bZMK | Sep 26 12:12 |
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| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/84275816 | Sep 26 12:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Monday, 26-Sep-11 07:52:59 UTC - Identi.ca: REVIEW: #Sabayon 6 (Xfce) and a look at my migration away from Gnome. http://is.gd/p0HHpZ #gnu #linux #xfce | Sep 26 12:12 |
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| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/84278127 | Sep 26 12:18 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Monday, 26-Sep-11 11:08:06 UTC - Identi.ca: Links 26/9/2011: #IPCop 2.0.0, #Asus Eee PC With #MeeGo http://is.gd/T3mxQq | Sep 26 12:18 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Links 26/9/2011: IPCop 2.0.0, Asus Eee PC With MeeGo http://is.gd/T3mxQq !techrights | Sep 26 12:36 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Links 26/9/2011: IPCop 2.0.0, Asus Eee PC With MeeGo | Techrights .::. Size~: 123.13 KB | Sep 26 12:36 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] also on the Chinese television? it's hard to get away from the Egyptian Dr. Zahi Jones! *sighs* | Sep 26 12:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] "abuses...in CIA-run prisons... military detention center in Guantanamo Bay "provide an excuse for other governments" http://goo.gl/TPrbx | Sep 26 12:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Five topnotch replacements for #GNOME3 or #Ubuntu #Unity http://is.gd/vA9VQD #gnu #linux #gnome | Sep 26 12:39 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Released hikers describe ordeal in Iran – This Just In - CNN.com Blogs .::. Size~: 84.1 KB | Sep 26 12:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Five topnotch replacements for GNOME 3 or Ubuntu Unity | TechRepublic .::. Size~: 143.03 KB | Sep 26 12:39 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #SpiderOak: alternativa ao #Dropbox « paula simoes' blog - http://goo.gl/A5lHt | Sep 26 12:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ACCC -- Like the !FSF -- Recognises Microsoft as Major Problem http://is.gd/PmT9zJ "considering a campaign against Microsoft." | Sep 26 12:41 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: SpiderOak: alternativa ao Dropbox « paula simoes' blog .::. Size~: 42.23 KB | Sep 26 12:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Linux users threaten Microsoft with ACCC - Software - News - ZDNet Australia .::. Size~: 123.49 KB | Sep 26 12:41 |
| DaemonFC | https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=679016 | Sep 26 12:43 |
| DaemonFC | here's a gem | Sep 26 12:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Bug 679016 – Remove outdated Seamonkey Profile Migrator .::. Size~: 47.37 KB | Sep 26 12:43 |
| DaemonFC | the code to import a Netscape 4 profile was just removed last month | Sep 26 12:44 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] How open source got its groove back http://is.gd/1HpGz0 "Portland’s lure lost some luster when the Great Recession hit." | Sep 26 12:44 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Sep 26 12:44 |
| *harrytuttle (528c0ab2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.82.140.10.178) has joined #techrights | Sep 26 12:53 | |
| harrytuttle | hello | Sep 26 12:53 |
| schestowitz | hi harrytuttle | Sep 26 12:53 |
| schestowitz | long time no see | Sep 26 12:53 |
| harrytuttle | yep, was at hospital | Sep 26 12:54 |
| harrytuttle | but better now | Sep 26 12:54 |
| harrytuttle | hello roy, just read your article about windows 8 and wintel ultrabooks... | Sep 26 12:54 |
| harrytuttle | the linked one | Sep 26 12:54 |
| harrytuttle | well, everyone is about to label them "secure" windows 8... thats way too positive spin to label them in the minds of the average user... there lies the FUD | Sep 26 12:55 |
| schestowitz | an old one? | Sep 26 12:55 |
| schestowitz | oh, that one | Sep 26 12:55 |
| schestowitz | oh, it's a feeeeechure | Sep 26 12:55 |
| harrytuttle | i just thought about using another term for refering to it... | Sep 26 12:55 |
| harrytuttle | "DONGLED" | Sep 26 12:55 |
| harrytuttle | dongled windows 8 | Sep 26 12:55 |
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| harrytuttle | no one likes dongles | Sep 26 12:55 |
| schestowitz | dog-led windows | Sep 26 12:56 |
| harrytuttle | :) | Sep 26 12:56 |
| harrytuttle | the hardware is all but a reduced big dongle for win8 | Sep 26 12:56 |
| schestowitz | it's actually money-led, but never mind the details | Sep 26 12:56 |
| schestowitz | monkey-led | Sep 26 12:56 |
| schestowitz | and money too, but that was a typo | Sep 26 12:56 |
| DaemonFC | "Oh look, you dock it and it goes from toy to real computer" is the message | Sep 26 12:58 |
| harrytuttle | like windows phony, maybe if we push a negative term hard enough and repeadetly, we can curb the discussion and how average joe perceives the "feeechure" as "unwanted dongle" | Sep 26 12:58 |
| harrytuttle | do not want | Sep 26 12:58 |
| schestowitz | Mac Asay does yhe usual http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/09/13/android_forking/ | Sep 26 12:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Why Android houses should give Google the 'fork you' • The Register .::. Size~: 29.07 KB | Sep 26 12:58 |
| neildarlow | I think "Android Houses" are getting a little nervous about being Android Houses right now :) | Sep 26 13:00 |
| schestowitz | http://internet.itbusinessnet.com/article/Is-the-BlackBerry-History-1673618 | Sep 26 13:00 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Is the BlackBerry History? .::. Size~: 72.77 KB | Sep 26 13:00 |
| schestowitz | neildarlow: Nokia was afraid of getting into it | Sep 26 13:00 |
| schestowitz | same for Windows | Sep 26 13:00 |
| schestowitz | That's why it went with Symbian | Sep 26 13:01 |
| schestowitz | Not to depend on Microsoft | Sep 26 13:01 |
| schestowitz | And now they have a mole in | Sep 26 13:01 |
| neildarlow | Erm. They've gone heavily Windows now | Sep 26 13:01 |
| schestowitz | So they dump Symbian and jump into the fire | Sep 26 13:01 |
| schestowitz | !google pouring gasoline nokia | Sep 26 13:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Nokia CEO believes they have been pouring gas on their own ... | http://www.zdnet.com/blog/cell-phones/nokia-ceo-believes-they-have-been-pouring-gas-on-their-own-burning-platform/5420 | Sep 26 13:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Stephen Elop has done nothing to help - the downfall of Nokia ... | http://www.computerweekly.com/galleries/247685-5/Stephen-Elop-has-done-nothing-to-help-the-downfall-of-Nokia.htm | Sep 26 13:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Nokia CEO to employees: “We poured gasoline on our own burning ... | http://www.techautos.com/2011/02/08/nokia-ceo-to-employees-we-poured-gasoline-on-our-own-burning-platform/ | Sep 26 13:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Microsoftie gives Nokia's WP7 début 8 out of 10 | thinq_ | http://www.thinq.co.uk/2011/9/8/microsoftie-gives-nokias-wp7-debut-8-out-10/ | Sep 26 13:01 |
| schestowitz | neildarlow: not yet | Sep 26 13:01 |
| schestowitz | They don't have products really | Sep 26 13:01 |
| schestowitz | That nectariny phony is not out yet | Sep 26 13:02 |
| schestowitz | and MSFT's man in charge of something quit | Sep 26 13:02 |
| schestowitz | It'll be Burning Man of Redmond | Sep 26 13:02 |
| schestowitz | A bunch of Microsoft cultists setting themselves on fire thinking that their sacrificial acts will somehow invoke a god that makes iOS and Android go away | Sep 26 13:03 |
| schestowitz | Nokia will play along | Sep 26 13:03 |
| neildarlow | I think it was a stupid move. Nokia has production capability far in excess of the Windows Phone marketplace requirement | Sep 26 13:03 |
| MinceR | huh, elop quit? | Sep 26 13:03 |
| schestowitz | Suicide and then patent passage to try and sink Android along with them | Sep 26 13:03 |
| schestowitz | !google mosaid microdoft nokia | Sep 26 13:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Mosaid sees rescue in its Nokia-Microsoft deal | Reuters | http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/09/01/us-mosaid-idUSTRE7803O920110901 | Sep 26 13:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Microsoft weighs in on Mosaid-Nokia patent deal | ZDNet | http://www.zdnet.com/blog/microsoft/microsoft-weighs-in-on-mosaid-nokia-patent-deal/10523 | Sep 26 13:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Patently false: Microsoft, Nokia deal raises antitrust alarms ... | http://www.nypost.com/p/news/business/patently_false_E4uHQUFC5XLDMmKgM7wb8K | Sep 26 13:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Mosaid to manage major patent portfolio for Nokia, Microsoft - The ... | http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-investor/nokia-taps-mosaid-to-handle-huge-patent-trove/article2149827/ | Sep 26 13:03 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: he will leave soon | Sep 26 13:03 |
| schestowitz | But it's the Mirosoft person who left | Sep 26 13:04 |
| schestowitz | TR covered it | Sep 26 13:04 |
| schestowitz | These people don't know what the Hell to do... and Microsoft has not much clout anymore | Sep 26 13:04 |
| schestowitz | Their chief crminal has moved into politicis now | Sep 26 13:04 |
| schestowitz | Where he hoped to become golbal DG or soemthing | Sep 26 13:04 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Two nights and a day in Tampere for http://openmind.fi - looking forward! | Sep 26 13:06 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Openmind - Tampere, Finland 28th September 2011 - Open Source Conference for Open Minds .::. Size~: 21.82 KB | Sep 26 13:06 |
| MinceR | "microsoft person" as in the one who was directly employed by m$ at the time? | Sep 26 13:06 |
| DaemonFC | Window Snyder can tell you all about the great security of Windows while drawing a paycheck from wherever it is she's working now (it was Mozilla until they got tired of her) | Sep 26 13:08 |
| DaemonFC | resignation sounds better than being fired after all :) | Sep 26 13:09 |
| DaemonFC | the code name for Windows 8 was Windows vNext | Sep 26 13:11 |
| DaemonFC | I think the v is for Vista | Sep 26 13:11 |
| MinceR | i thought so too | Sep 26 13:11 |
| DaemonFC | the next iteration | Sep 26 13:11 |
| MinceR | i think we called it vistaNext back then | Sep 26 13:11 |
| iophk | OpenMind is featuring M$ OpenSUSE :( | Sep 26 13:13 |
| iophk | And even presenting from M$ itself. That is two slots out of the four in the morning dedicated to M$ | Sep 26 13:14 |
| MinceR | sounds like that Mind isn't Open to anything except enslavement by m$ | Sep 26 13:14 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20110919044802339 | Sep 26 13:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Groklaw - Novell v. Microsoft Antitrust Trial Re: WordPerfect Set for Oct. 17 in Utah - by pj .::. Size~: 99.27 KB | Sep 26 13:14 |
| iophk | I guess COSS got turned on its head. | Sep 26 13:15 |
| DaemonFC | Novell is still suing Microsoft over WordPerfect? | Sep 26 13:15 |
| *DaemonFC used to use WordPerfect for DOS | Sep 26 13:15 | |
| MinceR | that lawsuit probably still serves m$ interests somehow | Sep 26 13:16 |
| DaemonFC | why are they going ahead with the lawsuit if they're basically a Microsoft subsidiary now? | Sep 26 13:16 |
| MinceR | maybe they're building a precedent for future lawsuits | Sep 26 13:17 |
| iophk | That is probably because of inertia more than anything else. The WordPerfect lawsuit is left over from 1994 | Sep 26 13:17 |
| iophk | http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20110919044802339 | Sep 26 13:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Groklaw - Novell v. Microsoft Antitrust Trial Re: WordPerfect Set for Oct. 17 in Utah - by pj .::. Size~: 99.27 KB | Sep 26 13:17 |
| MinceR | or it will be another method of transferring money from novell to m$ at some point | Sep 26 13:17 |
| DaemonFC | if all they want it for is that, why not just settle for a large pile of cash and walk away? | Sep 26 13:18 |
| MinceR | maybe they're waiting for more money to accumulate and/or novell to outlive its usefulness to them | Sep 26 13:18 |
| schestowitz | iophk: but Microsoft is an Open Source plays now :-) :-) | Sep 26 13:21 |
| schestowitz | *playa | Sep 26 13:21 |
| schestowitz | It plays them like a champ | Sep 26 13:21 |
| MinceR | as much as it ever was | Sep 26 13:21 |
| schestowitz | !google microsoft one-night stand | Sep 26 13:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Iowa antitrust case: Microsoft exec called software developers ... | http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9007527/Iowa_antitrust_case_Microsoft_exec_called_software_developers_pawns_ | Sep 26 13:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Microsoft needs to stop scamming MSDN Subscriber with Azure | http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/windowsazurepurchasing/thread/0edca3f0-874e-4e53-ae86-7ba2740a277c/ | Sep 26 13:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - One-Night-Stand Man by Daryle Stephen Ackerman // Songs // Rock ... | http://www.rockband.com/songs/UGC_5005021 | Sep 26 13:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Sony PS3 Merges With Microsoft Xbox 360 | DrJays.com Live ... | http://live.drjays.com/index.php/2011/09/14/sony-ps3-merges-with-microsoft-xbox-360/ | Sep 26 13:21 |
| iophk | So at least two out of ten slots at OpenMind are M$, which figures since OpenSUSE and Nokia are the main sponsors. | Sep 26 13:24 |
| schestowitz | I've been reciving politcal spam recently | Sep 26 13:24 |
| schestowitz | Out of the blue some attacks on politicians | Sep 26 13:25 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, that's why I don't sign those "petitions" like the CREDO ones twitter likes to post here | Sep 26 13:25 |
| schestowitz | From total strangers, like some sort of E-mail political campaign. Very unusual. This one against Cuomo maybe because i criticised him before. | Sep 26 13:25 |
| DaemonFC | you do that and you're on their spam list | Sep 26 13:25 |
| DaemonFC | and they're trying to sell you a cell phone plan even | Sep 26 13:25 |
| schestowitz | iophk: is that a new event? | Sep 26 13:25 |
| schestowitz | And does it just say "open" or "open source"? | Sep 26 13:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @kirschner "It’s time for the community to take charge of its brand" by @greve now on http://ur1.ca/579mu help with translations !fs ... | Sep 26 13:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] companies who abuse the #patent system to remove competing products from consumers eyes are admitting they can't compete on merit | Sep 26 13:26 | |
| schestowitz | Either way, Microsoft has been openwashing itself ro ages | Sep 26 13:26 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: It’s time for the community to take charge of its brand .::. Size~: 15.15 KB | Sep 26 13:26 |
| iophk | It's a recurring event | Sep 26 13:26 |
| schestowitz | While <Pearly has been charitywashiing himself using PR agents | Sep 26 13:26 |
| schestowitz | Now it's Madonna that's doing the same | Sep 26 13:26 |
| schestowitz | Bono did too | Sep 26 13:26 |
| schestowitz | With his scam 'charity' | Sep 26 13:26 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft to open your minds... with a scalpel :-) | Sep 26 13:27 |
| schestowitz | Bring suing kit to OpenMind | Sep 26 13:27 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft to spill some major news | Sep 26 13:28 |
| DaemonFC | you will be assimilated, the BSOD will occur daily and you will pay us more money every 2-3 years | Sep 26 13:28 |
| iophk | I wonder if OpenMind.fi will also feature a classic stacked panel | Sep 26 13:28 |
| schestowitz | ERROR: buffer allocation error in module neuron~1.dll | Sep 26 13:29 |
| schestowitz | coredumping, please restart your PC | Sep 26 13:29 |
| schestowitz | Vista 8 has new feature | Sep 26 13:30 |
| schestowitz | New BSOD | Sep 26 13:30 |
| schestowitz | That reboots itself | Sep 26 13:30 |
| schestowitz | Nice!!!!!!! | Sep 26 13:30 |
| MinceR | xp rebooted on bsod already | Sep 26 13:30 |
| schestowitz | That alone is worth buying a newer version for | Sep 26 13:30 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: oh | Sep 26 13:30 |
| MinceR | in an attempt to hide the BSOD | Sep 26 13:30 |
| schestowitz | so it's not nws | Sep 26 13:30 |
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| iophk | You can't hid the damage from BSOD, even if the machine does reboot itself | Sep 26 13:30 |
| DaemonFC | well, there's no point in sticking around to read it, it replaced helpful crash information with a sad mac copy | Sep 26 13:30 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Sep 26 13:30 |
| schestowitz | now they add a simpley face to it.. or emoticon | Sep 26 13:31 |
| schestowitz | yeah, like that'll cushion the blow | Sep 26 13:31 |
| schestowitz | "sure, I've just lost 5 hours of work, but at least Microsoft made a face at me" | Sep 26 13:31 |
| iophk | http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/24/us/24hearings.html | Sep 26 13:31 |
| iophk | For months, the computer system had been locking up, producing what the crew called the “blue screen of death.” | Sep 26 13:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Oil Rig’s Siren Was Kept Silent, Technician Says - NYTimes.com .::. Size~: 57.44 KB | Sep 26 13:31 |
| DaemonFC | we won't tell you what fucking caused it | Sep 26 13:31 |
| DaemonFC | automatic reboot in 5, 4, 3.... | Sep 26 13:31 |
| iophk | DaemonFC: Windows itself caused it. | Sep 26 13:31 |
| iophk | instability is part of the OS | Sep 26 13:31 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: so why even display it? | Sep 26 13:32 |
| DaemonFC | not always | Sep 26 13:32 |
| DaemonFC | frequently | Sep 26 13:32 |
| schestowitz | just log it | Sep 26 13:32 |
| schestowitz | like linux does | Sep 26 13:32 |
| DaemonFC | but not always | Sep 26 13:32 |
| schestowitz | in syslog | Sep 26 13:32 |
| schestowitz | dmesg handy as well | Sep 26 13:32 |
| DaemonFC | it's entirely possible that something got into the kernel that shouldn't have | Sep 26 13:32 |
| DaemonFC | bad drivers | Sep 26 13:32 |
| DaemonFC | malware | Sep 26 13:32 |
| schestowitz | I have a suggestion for Microsoft | Sep 26 13:32 |
| DaemonFC | anti-malware | Sep 26 13:32 |
| MinceR | yes, half of the windowing system | Sep 26 13:32 |
| schestowitz | Replace the blue scren with a tux image | Sep 26 13:32 |
| MinceR | but they call that a feature | Sep 26 13:32 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Doritos creator dies in Dallas at 97 http://identi.ca/url/53880777 #hero | Sep 26 13:32 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Doritos creator dies in Dallas at 97 - Houston Chronicle .::. Size~: 47.11 KB | Sep 26 13:32 |
| schestowitz | there's no trademark on it AFAIK | Sep 26 13:32 |
| schestowitz | And people will blame Linux for all the crashes :-) | Sep 26 13:33 |
| MinceR | that would be a trademark lawsuit | Sep 26 13:33 |
| schestowitz | not if they change tux a little | Sep 26 13:33 |
| schestowitz | they could make him more chubby | Sep 26 13:34 |
| schestowitz | like MSFT's CEO | Sep 26 13:34 |
| DaemonFC | make him fatter, replace his head with Ballmer | Sep 26 13:34 |
| DaemonFC | beat me to it | Sep 26 13:34 |
| schestowitz | I did that already | Sep 26 13:34 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/ballmer-penguin.png | Sep 26 13:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting image/png type | Sep 26 13:35 |
| MinceR | :) | Sep 26 13:35 |
| DaemonFC | GNOME 3 gives you a stupid error message that's not useful at all | Sep 26 13:35 |
| Diablo-D3 | >balmer | Sep 26 13:35 |
| Diablo-D3 | >has intellectual anythings | Sep 26 13:35 |
| DaemonFC | whenever the shell crashes | Sep 26 13:35 |
| Diablo-D3 | I call bullshit on this one | Sep 26 13:35 |
| MinceR | :> | Sep 26 13:36 |
| schestowitz | I have a typo in the image | Sep 26 13:36 |
| schestowitz | Or... | Sep 26 13:37 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks uncovers Canadian detainee mystery | CBC http://t.co/g6CyYiOO | Sep 26 13:37 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Sep 26 13:37 |
| schestowitz | Stsve can't spell right | Sep 26 13:37 |
| DaemonFC | you don't have to be smart to be a CEO | Sep 26 13:38 |
| DaemonFC | you just have to really want to FUCKING KILL GOOGLE!!!!!!! | Sep 26 13:38 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Sep 26 13:38 |
| schestowitz | It helps to have a plan | Sep 26 13:39 |
| schestowitz | He just F*** killed Yahoo | Sep 26 13:39 |
| schestowitz | Not Google | Sep 26 13:39 |
| schestowitz | And the company lost focus in the process | Sep 26 13:39 |
| DaemonFC | Yahoo was already dead, he just put more bullets in it | Sep 26 13:39 |
| schestowitz | They bid in feb 2008 iirc | Sep 26 13:39 |
| schestowitz | and back then Microsoft was a bit scary because it still had some momentum | Sep 26 13:39 |
| schestowitz | later that year (IIRC) MSFT stock value was down to about $15 | Sep 26 13:40 |
| schestowitz | halved | Sep 26 13:40 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: he didn't put bullets in it | Sep 26 13:40 |
| DaemonFC | Ubuntu still has Skype in their partner repository | Sep 26 13:40 |
| schestowitz | he puts bartzmer (mole) in it | Sep 26 13:40 |
| schestowitz | (which is a lot more deadly btw\) | Sep 26 13:40 |
| schestowitz | they also accelerate Nokia's death | Sep 26 13:41 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft is a necrophile | Sep 26 13:41 |
| schestowitz | it lusts for dead/dying companies | Sep 26 13:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #China says "no" to the the commercialization of GE rice - http://bit.ly/nhniX2 looks potentially rather big... #gm | Sep 26 13:41 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: China says "no" to the commercialization of GE rice? | Greenpeace East Asia .::. Size~: 82.66 KB | Sep 26 13:41 |
| schestowitz | Novell too | Sep 26 13:41 |
| schestowitz | When Canonical is left on one toe Microsoft might stick its thingie in Ubuntu too | Sep 26 13:41 |
| DaemonFC | Jerry Yang should have taken the offer | Sep 26 13:42 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft ended up getting Yahoo for a lot less in the end | Sep 26 13:42 |
| schestowitz | "Canonical and Microsoft Announced Strategic Collaboration" | Sep 26 13:42 |
| DaemonFC | I think that's a ways off | Sep 26 13:42 |
| schestowitz | "With a giant company like Microosft," said Jono Bacon, "we can now enter more enterprises." | Sep 26 13:42 |
| DaemonFC | awesome! | Sep 26 13:43 |
| schestowitz | rocking | Sep 26 13:43 |
| DaemonFC | http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20110926 | Sep 26 13:43 |
| MinceR | "also, buy windows 7, because it's awesome" | Sep 26 13:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: DistroWatch.com: Put the fun back into computing. Use Linux, BSD. .::. Size~: 116.48 KB | Sep 26 13:43 |
| DaemonFC | another look at Chakra | Sep 26 13:43 |
| DaemonFC | I've considered them | Sep 26 13:43 |
| DaemonFC | so few distributions do KDE right | Sep 26 13:43 |
| schestowitz | I cnsidered it too | Sep 26 13:44 |
| MinceR | KDE doesn't do KDE right anymore | Sep 26 13:44 |
| schestowitz | Last year | Sep 26 13:44 |
| schestowitz | But it seems to be in beta | Sep 26 13:44 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Postminimalism Playlist, After Kyle Gann's Discography - http://bit.ly/oJ56yr nice, but where's the Michael Nyman? #spotify | Sep 26 13:46 | |
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| schestowitz | IS there network turbulence today/storms? | Sep 26 13:51 |
| schestowitz | many sites inaccessible | Sep 26 13:51 |
| schestowitz | IIRC the US has some event | Sep 26 13:51 |
| schestowitz | !google september 26 storm us | Sep 26 13:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Storm Prediction Center Sep 26, 2011 0600 UTC Day 1 Convective ... | http://www.spc.noaa.gov/products/outlook/day1otlk.html | Sep 26 13:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - AccuWeather.com - Weather News | http://www.accuweather.com/news.asp | Sep 26 13:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Latest Atlantic Basin Satellite Images / Stormpulse / Hurricanes ... | http://www.stormpulse.com/latest-atlantic-basin-satellite-images | Sep 26 13:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Hurricane and Storm Tracking | http://hurricane.terrapin.com/ | Sep 26 13:51 |
| DaemonFC | "openSUSE too announced a delay in the beta release of version 12.1, with the biggest culprit being Systemd" | Sep 26 13:51 |
| DaemonFC | heh | Sep 26 13:51 |
| schestowitz | yeah | Sep 26 13:52 |
| schestowitz | greg k-h removed it | Sep 26 13:52 |
| schestowitz | opensuse is becoming a clusterfine | Sep 26 13:52 |
| DaemonFC | they still ship grub legacy | Sep 26 13:52 |
| MinceR | a clusterduck? | Sep 26 13:52 |
| DaemonFC | how much more of a clusterfuck do you need? :) | Sep 26 13:52 |
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| schestowitz | clusterfin | Sep 26 13:54 |
| schestowitz | but the f is not necessarily a fine | Sep 26 13:54 |
| schestowitz | like FMWV | Sep 26 13:54 |
| schestowitz | oops | Sep 26 13:54 |
| schestowitz | fvwm | Sep 26 13:54 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: fine you | Sep 26 13:54 |
| schestowitz | I don't give a fine | Sep 26 13:55 |
| MinceR | clusterGENTLY CARESS | Sep 26 13:55 |
| schestowitz | How am I? fine!!! | Sep 26 13:55 |
| schestowitz | clustergreg kh | Sep 26 13:55 |
| schestowitz | USian sites don't have good uptime recently | Sep 26 13:56 |
| schestowitz | what's the best hosting DC assuming locational neutrality and no long time to travel to English-speaking audience, e.g. from China to Europe? | Sep 26 13:57 |
| schestowitz | Sites based in south America have always taken ages to access from here | Sep 26 14:00 |
| schestowitz | Maybe one day a lot of servers will just be located where env regulations are poorer | Sep 26 14:01 |
| schestowitz | The sofwtare side is already offshored | Sep 26 14:01 |
| schestowitz | so far the hardware side did provide jobs in the West | Sep 26 14:01 |
| schestowitz | physical access to machines | Sep 26 14:01 |
| schestowitz | But that too might change when it's no longer economic to have the DCs in the West | Sep 26 14:02 |
| schestowitz | And target users need to be closer to overseas DCs | Sep 26 14:02 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: another Mac Asay pearl of wisdom http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/09/20/bubbles_and_silicon_valley/ | Sep 26 14:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Yes, there's a Tech Bubble. But that's OK • The Register .::. Size~: 29.44 KB | Sep 26 14:03 |
| MinceR | not only env regulations matter | Sep 26 14:03 |
| schestowitz | I find it amusing because he's not a techie | Sep 26 14:03 |
| schestowitz | That's what I can't quite understand | Sep 26 14:03 |
| MinceR | there's also the issue of employee protection | Sep 26 14:03 |
| schestowitz | Where you have lawyers like asay or patent lawyers preach to use about innovation | Sep 26 14:04 |
| schestowitz | It really upsets me sometimes | Sep 26 14:04 |
| MinceR | if he was a techie, he wouldn't be an apple fanboy | Sep 26 14:04 |
| schestowitz | They're just there to claim credit for those who actually do cool things, not just speak about them | Sep 26 14:04 |
| schestowitz | it's why we have swpats in the US and some entering europe | Sep 26 14:04 |
| schestowitz | We don't count | Sep 26 14:04 |
| schestowitz | We're just doing all thr word | Sep 26 14:04 |
| schestowitz | work | Sep 26 14:04 |
| schestowitz | While idiot patent lawyers do their PC (polticially correct game) to climb up the ladder, then command us | Sep 26 14:05 |
| schestowitz | We need some scientists in politivcs | Sep 26 14:05 |
| schestowitz | But they aren't PC | Sep 26 14:05 |
| schestowitz | They are brutally honest | Sep 26 14:05 |
| schestowitz | So the masses would not vote for them, they have "no faith" | Sep 26 14:05 |
| schestowitz | Also, notice ow Mac slinked away from FOSS when more money was offered elsewhere | Sep 26 14:06 |
| schestowitz | To patent lawyers, for example, success is just money | Sep 26 14:07 |
| schestowitz | And I have some theories about what motivates them | Sep 26 14:07 |
| schestowitz | As they don't create anything, the only thing they get to keep is paper and paper money | Sep 26 14:07 |
| MinceR | he never cared about free software | Sep 26 14:07 |
| MinceR | he was advertising crApple even when canonical paid him | Sep 26 14:07 |
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| schestowitz | So to them, accumulation of things is not an idea, code, product,m reputation | Sep 26 14:07 |
| MinceR | and before that | Sep 26 14:07 |
| schestowitz | It's something they can swap with other material things | Sep 26 14:07 |
| MinceR | and then he went to a crApple fanboy company | Sep 26 14:08 |
| schestowitz | Or take photos in some resort | Sep 26 14:08 |
| MinceR | (another one, that is) | Sep 26 14:08 |
| schestowitz | I know quite a few people who work in law, they're as thick as a brick | Sep 26 14:08 |
| schestowitz | bnut very focusaed on end goals (money and arguing) | Sep 26 14:08 |
| schestowitz | [14:07] <MinceR> he was advertising crApple even when canonical paid him | Sep 26 14:08 |
| schestowitz | 'Coz Apple is cool | Sep 26 14:08 |
| schestowitz | IT'S JUST.... like Cool and stuff | Sep 26 14:09 |
| schestowitz | Apple has a broad target market in the West | Sep 26 14:09 |
| schestowitz | Inc. middle-aged men who think they get to shave off the age with some 'cool' stuff | Sep 26 14:09 |
| schestowitz | Canonical's new commercial manager is from Novell | Sep 26 14:10 |
| schestowitz | He started there and stayed for about 6 years... doing marketing | Sep 26 14:10 |
| schestowitz | So here we have many good geeks | Sep 26 14:10 |
| schestowitz | Underpaid sometimes | Sep 26 14:10 |
| schestowitz | Run by marketing and litigation people | Sep 26 14:10 |
| schestowitz | Which I find sad | Sep 26 14:10 |
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| schestowitz | it's like letting elephants hard dogs | Sep 26 14:10 |
| schestowitz | *herd | Sep 26 14:10 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] RT @ladygagga Jamey Rodemeyer, 14 yrs old, took his life because of bullying. http://ur1.ca/57a8b. Bullying must become be illegal. | Sep 26 14:11 | |
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| schestowitz | define "bullying", ga uh | Sep 26 14:11 |
| schestowitz | See what the problem is? | Sep 26 14:11 |
| schestowitz | Sometime dies | Sep 26 14:11 |
| schestowitz | Then they find out why | Sep 26 14:11 |
| schestowitz | ASnd they try to pass laws | Sep 26 14:11 |
| schestowitz | Johnny drank alcohol before punching someone | Sep 26 14:12 |
| schestowitz | Let's make that illegal | Sep 26 14:12 |
| schestowitz | Problem solved | Sep 26 14:12 |
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| schestowitz | Prpeare for the Bully Act of 2011 | Sep 26 14:12 |
| schestowitz | Like the: | Sep 26 14:12 |
| schestowitz | !google drew case | Sep 26 14:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Suicide of Megan Meier - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_of_Megan_Meier | Sep 26 14:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Judge Considers Throwing Out Lori Drew Case | Threat Level ... | http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2008/11/lori-drew-pla-4/ | Sep 26 14:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - United States v. Drew | Citizen Media Law Project | http://www.citmedialaw.org/threats/united-states-v-drew | Sep 26 14:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Verdict in MySpace Suicide Case - NYTimes.com | http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/27/us/27myspace.html | Sep 26 14:12 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] You still haven't connected pin.fm @evan ? I don't mind either way, just wanted to clarify | Sep 26 14:12 | |
| schestowitz | and let's not just make bullying illegal | Sep 26 14:13 |
| schestowitz | Cause making it illegal on its own is not enough to stop bullying :0( | Sep 26 14:13 |
| schestowitz | And sure you can put a 12 year old in prison for "bullying" | Sep 26 14:13 |
| schestowitz | Just tell the kid not to drop the soap in prison | Sep 26 14:13 |
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| DaemonFC | if someone says mean things and someone else commits suicide over it | Sep 26 14:15 |
| DaemonFC | what really caused that? | Sep 26 14:15 |
| DaemonFC | the person obviously has too low a bullshit threshold to make it in the world anyway | Sep 26 14:16 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] It looks like !twitter are blocking #OccupyWallStreet from trending. Why do they behave like that? I'm not mad; it's their biz, but it's sad | Sep 26 14:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] London Calling — #OpenAccess PR Wends Its Way From London Into a Major US Newspaper - http://bit.ly/qymXXH failing to grasp #abundance | Sep 26 14:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Good news: Facebook privacy settings only a little more complicated as operating a space shuttle. http://www.nytimes.co... http://b1t.it/D7H | Sep 26 14:16 | |
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| AdmFubar_ | hi all | Sep 26 14:19 |
| AdmFubar_ | :) | Sep 26 14:19 |
| AdmFubar_ | was thinking about the new windows secure boot-doggle.. :P | Sep 26 14:19 |
| DaemonFC | I think it's panic for no reason | Sep 26 14:20 |
| MinceR | it might cripple a random subset of PCs | Sep 26 14:21 |
| MinceR | m$ claims some BIOSes offer an option to disable "secure" boot, but not all | Sep 26 14:21 |
| AdmFubar_ | i'll bet when you update a motherboard you will have to get a new version of 8 as that copy you have will only work for the one issued key, and of course you have to 'validated' by m$ in a 'phone home' program | Sep 26 14:21 |
| MinceR | also, it's m$ saying it, so it might be a lie | Sep 26 14:21 |
| MinceR | they already do that, it's called "activation" | Sep 26 14:21 |
| AdmFubar_ | not like the like i am saying.. | Sep 26 14:22 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] The CIA is Relocating to Denver - coupmedia.org #xfiles http://goo.gl/dIY8c | Sep 26 14:22 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Sep 26 14:23 |
| AdmFubar_ | i wont be surprised if you have to buy a new security key when you move to a new system | Sep 26 14:23 |
| AdmFubar_ | i bet it wont be mearly activation anymore :P | Sep 26 14:24 |
| AdmFubar_ | well that is my two bit coins oon this matter... | Sep 26 14:25 |
| MinceR | they can also use Treacherous Computing to lock your data away forever | Sep 26 14:25 |
| AdmFubar_ | laters all | Sep 26 14:25 |
| MinceR | from you | Sep 26 14:25 |
| AdmFubar_ | :P yeah untill you pay up | Sep 26 14:25 |
| AdmFubar_ | :)) | Sep 26 14:25 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Hm. http://ur1.ca/j4zv still does not offer Googleplus Suicide. Why? | Sep 26 14:26 | |
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| MinceR | if they get around to asking for your money, that is | Sep 26 14:26 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] 2011-Sep-29: Martín Álvarez, W3C Spain Office, gives a talk entitled: "Open Your Data and Win" http://kwz.me/pP | Sep 26 14:34 | |
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| DaemonFC | installing Prey for Linux | Sep 26 14:39 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @evan feature request for the new #Identica: have poll results echo'd to everyone disabled by default, only echo'd to the poll poster | Sep 26 14:39 | |
| DaemonFC | wondering how it runs without Catalyst | Sep 26 14:39 |
| schestowitz | http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-20109630-93/eric-schmidts-oral-testimony-before-senators/ "I was an executive at Sun and later Novell at the time. And in the years since, many of us in Silicon Valley have absorbed the lessons of that era. " | Sep 26 14:40 |
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| schestowitz | Matt Rosoff strikes ahain... | Sep 26 14:42 |
| schestowitz | trying to compare Google toi Microdsoft | Sep 26 14:42 |
| schestowitz | That son of a gun... | Sep 26 14:42 |
| schestowitz | boosting Microsoft again | Sep 26 14:42 |
| schestowitz | He came from an MS boosting firm | Sep 26 14:42 |
| schestowitz | http://www.businessinsider.com/googles-eric-schmidt-were-not-microsoft-2011-9 | Sep 26 14:42 |
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| *schestowitz nnnnnearly dropped his coffee | Sep 26 14:43 | |
| schestowitz | Oh noes.. | Sep 26 14:43 |
| schestowitz | Forbes gave Rob Enderle a blog | Sep 26 14:43 |
| schestowitz | Me. Posion Pen is alread at it.. | Sep 26 14:43 |
| schestowitz | http://www.forbes.com/sites/robenderle/2011/09/21/ibms-best-battle-strategy-may-be-to-avoid-wars/ | Sep 26 14:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: IBM's Best Battle Strategy May Be To Avoid Wars - Forbes .::. Size~: 106.76 KB | Sep 26 14:43 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Poll: Should http://ur1.ca/1 disable the poll result spamming to the main timeline & groups concerned by default? http://ur1.ca/57ago | Sep 26 14:44 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Public timeline - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 56.63 KB | Sep 26 14:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: thistleweb's poll: Should Identi.ca disable the poll result spamming to the main timeline & groups concerned by default? - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 10.69 KB | Sep 26 14:44 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] RT @algotruneman I'm a happy free software user. !kde !gnome !xfce, etc. Freedom to choose freedom. Thanks, Martin. Well said. http://bi ... | Sep 26 14:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] voted for "Yes, if I cared about the answer I'd opt in to see others responses" | Sep 26 14:47 | |
| schestowitz | Blech. Mr. Poison Pen goes further to SFGate http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2011/09/21/businessinsidergoogles-eric-schmidt.DTL | Sep 26 14:47 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/fcassia/status/118295249054470144 | Sep 26 14:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @fcassia: @schestowitz DalaiDrama? | Sep 26 14:50 |
| schestowitz | DRAMA DRAMA DRAMA! | Sep 26 14:50 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Xinjiang’s Most Popular Song [Video]: Oynasun - http://bit.ly/qkGXJV catchy; your life will be incomplete until you've heard it... #uyghur | Sep 26 14:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Auf der Cloudforce München wird H-D Genscher keynoten. Verzweiflung oder Geniestreich? | Sep 26 14:51 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #SAF says TV has too much power over the !football http://is.gd/CZXfz3 - not to be confused with him & !United having too much power | Sep 26 14:52 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Christine Lagarde: #IMF may need billions in extra funding | Before It's News #crooks #nwo #bankingsystem http://goo.gl/eQr2X | Sep 26 14:57 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Senate Judiciary Subcommittee on Antitrust, Competition Policy and Consumer Rights Hearing http://is.gd/nBBQPU in his words, w/o the MS spin | Sep 26 14:59 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] just realised, by starting a poll, I'm setting it up to spam myself with @ on the responses #DOH! ah well, takin' one for the team I guess | Sep 26 15:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @jwildeboer: Hm. http://ur1.ca/j4zv still does not offer Googleplus Suicide. Why? | Sep 26 15:02 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] "Patenter Irrsinn"auf #heise zu #Softwarepatenten http://ur1.ca/57ant #besserspaetalsnie #swpat | Sep 26 15:07 | |
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| schestowitz | http://businessandleadership.com/leadership/item/32538-mr-schmidt-goes-to-dublin/ | Sep 26 15:08 |
| schestowitz | "Before joining Google Schmidt had been CEO of Novell and impressed the young founders of Google, Larry Page and Sergey Brin, who insisted he join as CEO in 2002. He played a guiding role in the company’s stellar growth in just 13 years to become a US$30bn a year internet giant employing 28,000 people worldwide. He has a net worth of US$7bn and according to Forbes is the 136th richest person on the planet." | Sep 26 15:08 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Mr Schmidt goes to Dublin - Leadership - Leadership | Ireland's online business and management news service - Businessandleadership.com .::. Size~: 81.81 KB | Sep 26 15:08 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/84280123 https://identi.ca/notice/84280135 | Sep 26 15:08 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Monday, 26-Sep-11 13:43:42 UTC - Identi.ca: Bad news. Forbes gave Enderle a blog. Meanwhile, Matt Rosoff from a Microsoft promotion firm uses BI 'news' section to berate Google+Schmidt | Sep 26 15:08 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Monday, 26-Sep-11 13:44:36 UTC - Identi.ca: The best 'bias' is one of selection. The publisher/editors needn't even tinker with the content, they just select the people suiting agenda. | Sep 26 15:08 |
| schestowitz | here is more of that spin from MS Booster Matt Rosoff | Sep 26 15:10 |
| schestowitz | http://www.businessinsider.com/is-google-a-monopoly-were-in-that-area-admits-schmidt-2011-9 | Sep 26 15:10 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Is Google A Monopoly? "We're In That Area," Admits Schmidt .::. Size~: 107.04 KB | Sep 26 15:10 |
| schestowitz | best spinner Microsoft can buy | Sep 26 15:11 |
| schestowitz | !google Matt Rosoff directions in Microsoft | Sep 26 15:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Directions on Microsoft Experts | http://www.directionsonmicrosoft.com/our-experts.html | Sep 26 15:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Directions on Microsoft: Matt Rosoff moves on | LiveSide.net | http://www.liveside.net/2010/10/07/directions-on-microsoft-matt-rosoff-moves-on/ | Sep 26 15:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Zune HD: You call that a browser? | Digital Noise: Music and Tech ... | http://news.cnet.com/8301-13526_3-10354240-27.html | Sep 26 15:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Matt Rosoff | http://www.businessinsider.com/author/matt-rosoff | Sep 26 15:11 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Shouldn't disclosure in the press be obligatory? Some publications still abstain from even publishing the names of authors and ad clients. | Sep 26 15:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] When the field of "PR" verges on the grounds of competition and antitrust, how does that affect us customers and developers? PR is harmful. | Sep 26 15:17 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] is there a poll group that everyone was automatically joined into? or is it a punishment for joining specific groups? @support | Sep 26 15:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] Join !OccupyWallSt in fighting money's influence in Washington http://redd.it/krtsa !activism !anarchism !capitalism !socialism !communism | Sep 26 15:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] if it's a group thing, the solution would be to leave every group you're a member of & only use tags #pollspam @support | Sep 26 15:22 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Missing content type. Ignoring. | Sep 26 15:23 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] New Spotify users are now required to have a Facebook account - http://tnw.co/pR0UrM so how long before #facebook buys #spotify? | Sep 26 15:26 | |
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| schestowitz | http://www.h-online.com/open/features/Fresh-wind-for-openSUSE-1343874.html | Sep 26 15:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Fresh wind for openSUSE - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 41.02 KB | Sep 26 15:27 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @jackschofield "We’re trying to remove the barrier between ‘I want that’ and ‘I have it’.” -- Sam Hall, Amazon #quote >>yuk #consumerism | Sep 26 15:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Open Access to Scholarly Publications at Princeton - http://bit.ly/oJAd7Q great news #openaccess | Sep 26 15:39 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Open Access to Scholarly Publications at Princeton | Freedom to Tinker .::. Size~: 37.98 KB | Sep 26 15:39 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @torproject New release of arm, includes interactive interpretor for raw control port access: http://ur1.ca/57aqr | Sep 26 15:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @mairin choice is good until it's overwhelming... | Sep 26 15:42 | |
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| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/84280560 | Sep 26 15:45 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Monday, 26-Sep-11 14:13:50 UTC - Identi.ca: In motions in court/FTC/DOJ companies habitually put in references from "official" press. But how reliable is it if it's planted/sponsored? | Sep 26 15:45 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/84280525 https://identi.ca/notice/84280540 | Sep 26 15:45 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Monday, 26-Sep-11 14:11:02 UTC - Identi.ca: finds is extremely troubling that one day Matt Rosoff can be a Microsoft guy and another day pretend to be a journalist and spin/deceive | Sep 26 15:45 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Monday, 26-Sep-11 14:11:46 UTC - Identi.ca: Shouldn't disclosure in the press be obligatory? Some publications still abstain from even publishing the names of authors and ad clients. | Sep 26 15:45 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "When I want to do something mindless to relax, I install windows 95." --Be CEO http://is.gd/j5kMdP Windows is for gaming (with a toy OS) | Sep 26 15:46 | |
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| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/84280974 | Sep 26 15:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Monday, 26-Sep-11 14:42:02 UTC - Identi.ca: Trusted Computing will defend Windows... from alien partitions like Linux ones. And protect Microsoft.... shareholders. | Sep 26 15:47 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] my hotel in Finland just sent me a confirmation with an ical attachment so it slotted right into my calendar. how COOl is that? | Sep 26 15:51 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.marketwatch.com/story/chris-mac-mcglynn-joins-qvidian-as-director-of-quality-2011-09-19 | Sep 26 15:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Chris "Mac" McGlynn Joins Qvidian as Director of Quality - MarketWatch .::. Size~: 75.94 KB | Sep 26 15:51 |
| *MinceR_ is now known as MinceR | Sep 26 15:51 | |
| schestowitz | Notice the middle name | Sep 26 15:51 |
| schestowitz | Like Asay's | Sep 26 15:51 |
| schestowitz | more of a nickname | Sep 26 15:51 |
| *ChanServ gives channel operator status to MinceR | Sep 26 15:51 | |
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| schestowitz | in the press release no less.. | Sep 26 15:51 |
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| schestowitz | just been spending 2 hours researching Novell and Attachmate | Sep 26 15:54 |
| schestowitz | I'll make some posts | Sep 26 15:54 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] A Writers' Bill of Rights for the Digital Age - http://bit.ly/oeDqf9 clueless & one-sided: takes no account of the public's rights.. #canada | Sep 26 16:06 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] MT @Kim26stephens @ushahidi Amazing article. Mentions #opendata, @ushahidi: Future of #cities, info and inclusion. bit.ly/icPzHb | Sep 26 16:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] Will #Linux Be Locked Out of Windows 8 PCs? http://ur1.ca/57b93 | Sep 26 16:12 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Mobile Apps in #Africa (2011 Report) - http://bit.ly/qDerej interesting summary | Sep 26 16:16 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] wow! finally TI and NatSemi are one company! http://ur1.ca/57ba7 #fb | Sep 26 16:19 | |
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| DaemonFC | http://i.imgur.com/SLedu.png | Sep 26 16:20 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @tekk it no workie ;-) identi.ca tells me “we could not reach that adders” | Sep 26 16:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Microsoft’s Take on UEFI May Impede !Linux (and that’s being polite) from Linux Journal by Michael Reed http://goo.gl/NiJnS | Sep 26 16:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] New Blog Post | An Elegant Little Picture Gallery Application http://is.gd/3AhWyZ #php #fb | Sep 26 16:22 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Microsoft’s Take on UEFI May Impede Linux (and that’s being polite) | Linux Journal .::. Size~: 52.78 KB | Sep 26 16:22 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] How open source got its groove back http://ur1.ca/57bby #opensource | Sep 26 16:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Off-Grid SHTF Survival: Ancient Technology for Refrigeration #preppers http://goo.gl/0lHe7 | Sep 26 16:26 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] NASA's open source space applications challenge http://ur1.ca/57bck #opensource | Sep 26 16:27 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] #Obama Can Determine If Software Patents Go Away or Go Global http://is.gd/k0Qy5J "American (US) citizens: please sign this petition" #uspto | Sep 26 16:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Obama Can Determine If Software Patents Go Away or Go Global http://is.gd/k0Qy5J "American (US) citizens: please sign this petition" #swpats | Sep 26 16:29 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Learning from The #Apache Way - http://bit.ly/pvXuEO why #apache is #opensource's biggest & longest-running success story | Sep 26 16:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] Five reasons to stay away from Windows 8 http://ur1.ca/57beb | Sep 26 16:31 | |
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| DaemonFC | I liked Apache better when they were just a web server | Sep 26 16:35 |
| DaemonFC | and not another religious anti-GPL organization wanting to make tons of free to steal software | Sep 26 16:36 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #MySQL at the core of commercial open source - http://bit.ly/qz0NHE useful comparison; nice diagrams | Sep 26 16:39 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @joaofernando: "Gatos radioativos têm 18 meias-vidas?" // incerto; só quando não tem ninguém olhando ;-) | Sep 26 16:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[faither/@faither] Haven't thought about that! With UEFI a hardware/OS vendor could force you pay to use your hardware. http://bit.ly/qS8jmF !linux !gnu !fsf | Sep 26 16:44 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Microsoft’s Take on UEFI May Impede Linux (and that’s being polite) | Linux Journal .::. Size~: 57.99 KB | Sep 26 16:44 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Apple Reduces Patent Claims as Verizon et al. Strike Back, Calling for Embargo on iPad and iPhone http://is.gd/KaOeEf #linux #ipad #iphone | Sep 26 16:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Apple Reduces Patent Claims as #Verizon et al. Strike Back, Calling for Embargo on iPad and iPhone http://is.gd/KaOeEf #swpats #android | Sep 26 16:47 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] The things that can distract you. A whining puppy. Who is missing. Finally found her, she'd got locked in the bathroom! #dogs | Sep 26 16:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Shared a post "So.... Mary-Jo Foley thinks the people who dual-boot Linux and Windows are a "relatively small contingen... http://b1t.it/D9d | Sep 26 16:52 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Nandan Vaidya - Google+ - So.... Mary-Jo Foley thinks the people who dual-boot Linux… .::. Size~: 40.31 KB | Sep 26 16:52 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] OpenShot 1.4 Released http://ur1.ca/57bmr | Sep 26 16:59 | |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Firefox 9 feels as fast as Chrome | Sep 26 17:00 |
| DaemonFC | perhaps faster | Sep 26 17:00 |
| DaemonFC | and the memory usage is still decreasing | Sep 26 17:00 |
| Will-O-Wisp | good news | Sep 26 17:02 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Now that I am done with the books, looking forward to this ->> THE GIRL WITH THE DRAGON TATTOO - Official Trailer - In ... http://b1t.it/D9l | Sep 26 17:02 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Ooh. #notsonice. You can only join #spotify with a facebook account. #Fail. http://ur1.ca/57br1... http://b1t.it/D9p | Sep 26 17:11 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] Firefox Might Get a Long Term Support Version http://ur1.ca/57brx | Sep 26 17:12 | |
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| MinceR | does anyone know what they're referring to here? >> http://scripting.com/stories/2011/09/24/facebookIsScaringMe.html#p9594 "It may not be possible to opt-out of Google's identity system and all the information gathering it does, if you're a Chrome user." | Sep 26 17:16 |
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| DaemonFC | IIS is unpopular because it's a web server that only runs on Windows | Sep 26 17:17 |
| DaemonFC | who wants that? | Sep 26 17:17 |
| iophk | No one actually *wants* IIS. A lot get it foisted on them because of ideaology. | Sep 26 17:19 |
| DaemonFC | Apache runs fine on Windows | Sep 26 17:19 |
| DaemonFC | but IIS doesn't run on Linux | Sep 26 17:19 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] RT @glynmoody: CC 4.0, an end to porting Creative Commons licenses? - http://bit.ly/qF7lIS good report #cc #licensing #copyright | Sep 26 17:21 | |
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| MinceR | there are a few idiots who want both IIS and running winblows on a server | Sep 26 17:23 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Microsoft’s Mobile Plan: Patents, Not Products http://is.gd/NtsAOL #microsoft #swpats #phone #tablet #cptn #novell | Sep 26 17:26 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Microsoft’s Mobile Plan: Patents, Not Products http://is.gd/NtsAOL #apple #cartel #uspto #mosaid #nokia #android #linux | Sep 26 17:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] IPCop 2.0 Released http://ur1.ca/57by2 | Sep 26 17:29 | |
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| iophk | Windows makes Apache very hard to run. | Sep 26 17:30 |
| iophk | It's a very bad platform for services | Sep 26 17:30 |
| MinceR | it makes it easy to crawl, though! | Sep 26 17:30 |
| MinceR | *badum tish* | Sep 26 17:30 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] File under #Religion Poisons Everything: 2 #Tibetan monks self-immolate amid #DalaiLama feud http://ur1.ca/57bz7 #China #politics | Sep 26 17:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Microsoft Lied to US House of Representatives http://is.gd/Oo0KI6 #classaction #spyware #windows | Sep 26 17:34 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] People using proprietary software don't know what they're missing: software that actually works! | Sep 26 17:47 | |
| schestowitz | on "snit" | Sep 26 17:51 |
| schestowitz | ____/ White Spirit on Monday 26 Sep 2011 16:09 : \____ | Sep 26 17:51 |
| schestowitz | > On 26/09/2011 11:26, Chris Ahlstrom wrote: | Sep 26 17:51 |
| schestowitz | > | Sep 26 17:51 |
| schestowitz | >> The problem is he is crazy. | Sep 26 17:51 |
| schestowitz | > | Sep 26 17:51 |
| schestowitz | > I am actually beginning to feel sorry for him. He obviously has a lot | Sep 26 17:51 |
| schestowitz | > of emotional investment in this group and when he doesn't get any return | Sep 26 17:51 |
| schestowitz | > on that investment, he ties himself in knots trying to attract our | Sep 26 17:51 |
| schestowitz | > attention. His histrionics have become so routine that while they | Sep 26 17:51 |
| schestowitz | > appear utterly absurd to an onlooker, it has become very much normal for | Sep 26 17:51 |
| schestowitz | > him. That, in addition to the cognitive dissonance that must underpin | Sep 26 17:51 |
| schestowitz | > his mental state these days, suggests that he is very unstable, both | Sep 26 17:51 |
| schestowitz | > mentally and emotionally. | Sep 26 17:51 |
| schestowitz | > | Sep 26 17:51 |
| schestowitz | > I feel sorry for those who have to spend time around him in real life | Sep 26 17:51 |
| schestowitz | > and I can only hope that he doesn't have any dependants relying on him | Sep 26 17:51 |
| schestowitz | > because the potential for harm, no matter how inadvertent and | Sep 26 17:51 |
| schestowitz | > unintentional, could well be a very serious risk. | Sep 26 17:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Is #OpenData “what the doctor ordered”? - http://bit.ly/oPVvgH interesting report on Demos panel at Labour conference #health | Sep 26 17:54 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] RT @gabrielsaldana world's worst hunting #dog http://imgur.com/ZBAU7 #funny | Sep 26 17:57 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] Care to elaborate? | Sep 26 17:59 | |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/YasithaNavodya/statuses/118264467812401152 | Sep 26 18:04 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @YasithaNavodya: http://t.co/Q50IIohu | Sep 26 18:04 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Sep 26 18:04 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/84282654 | Sep 26 18:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Monday, 26-Sep-11 16:31:25 UTC - Identi.ca: #Microsoft Lied to US House of Representatives http://is.gd/Oo0KI6 #deception #wp7 #privacy | Sep 26 18:05 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/carlopiana/status/118362143425970177 | Sep 26 18:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @carlopiana: ♺ @schestowitz: Microsoft’s Mobile Plan: Patents, Not Products http://t.co/e0yg8YVR < it's been a while now | Sep 26 18:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Sep 26 18:05 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] http://ur1.ca/57ca4 #sip_and_click | Sep 26 18:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] identi.ca, STOP SHORTENING MY URLs | Sep 26 18:07 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] This dent is to be read only by the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, please look away while we feign security. | Sep 26 18:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] It actually comes flat and we make the bubbles ourselves, properly. #egobubbles | Sep 26 18:21 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Good afternoon !identiverse !tzag | Sep 26 18:22 | |
| DaemonFC | Ubuntu is putting a lot of man hours into NIHing their own desktop | Sep 26 18:23 |
| DaemonFC | looking at the commit log | Sep 26 18:23 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] Microsoft: If You Insist on Running Older OSes Like Linux, We'll Let You http://ur1.ca/57ch5 | Sep 26 18:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] RT @lamm File under #Religion Poisons Everything: 2 #Tibetan monks self-immolate amid #DalaiLama feud http://ur1.ca/57bz7 #China #politics | Sep 26 18:26 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Turkey& Greece have a fallout over Cypriot oil exploration. | Sep 26 18:27 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] Whoops. Six airport fire trucks rushing out as I'm waiting to board at DUS. Hope it's nothing serious. | Sep 26 18:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] An excellent set of points | Sep 26 18:29 | |
| neildarlow | Hmm. Older (more reliable) OSes Like Linux :) | Sep 26 18:30 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] I went install-crazy this weekend, putting !arch on my wife's EeePC and I'm now dual-booting with Arch and !bodhi on my thinkpad | Sep 26 18:31 | |
| schestowitz | The universal platform | Sep 26 18:31 |
| schestowitz | just not yet more ubiquitous on desktops | Sep 26 18:31 |
| schestowitz | DUe to market distortion | Sep 26 18:31 |
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| neildarlow | Windows does have familiarity. GNU/Linux's periodic desktop overhauls don't always help adoption | Sep 26 18:34 |
| DaemonFC | they finally released Unity 4.18, 4 days late | Sep 26 18:34 |
| DaemonFC | lots and lots of bugs | Sep 26 18:34 |
| DaemonFC | they seem to be added faster than they are fixed | Sep 26 18:34 |
| neildarlow | DaemonFC: careful, you'll upset Jono | Sep 26 18:34 |
| DaemonFC | https://launchpad.net/unity/+milestone/4.18.0 | Sep 26 18:35 |
| schestowitz | it won't | Sep 26 18:35 |
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| DaemonFC | they re-targeted a lot of these | Sep 26 18:35 |
| schestowitz | just doj't diss viata7 | Sep 26 18:35 |
| DaemonFC | there were over 100 | Sep 26 18:35 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] Australian Linux Users Threaten Microsoft with Consumer Commission http://ur1.ca/57cju | Sep 26 18:36 | |
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| iophk | neildarlow: if ease of use were a factor in adoption of Linux on the desktop. we would have had majority marketshare for several years now. The barrier is a lock on the OEMs, not a problem with ease of use. That's 1990's talk to claim difficulty in use. | Sep 26 18:38 |
| iophk | Besides, there are new markets in Africa were no one has used software before and has no brain-damaged misconceptions to unlearn. | Sep 26 18:38 |
| schestowitz | microsoft still uses edgi | Sep 26 18:39 |
| schestowitz | our guest editors covered a new example some days ago | Sep 26 18:39 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft abuses the poor and calls it donation | Sep 26 18:39 |
| neildarlow | iophk: i didn't mention ease of use. compare Windows 7 with Windows 3. very little has really changed. compare KDE-3.x with KDE-4.x, they're very different. | Sep 26 18:39 |
| schestowitz | it's like giving them free wheels but no car | Sep 26 18:39 |
| schestowitz | when they grow up they need to buy the chassis | Sep 26 18:39 |
| schestowitz | neildarlow: a lot more changed bwteeen win3.1 and 7 | Sep 26 18:40 |
| iophk | edgi or something like it | Sep 26 18:40 |
| schestowitz | "American edgi | Sep 26 18:40 |
| schestowitz | !google American edgi | Sep 26 18:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Microsoft Brings 'American EDGI' to Illinois, Virginia, and Indiana ... | http://techrights.org/2009/06/22/illinois-virginia-indiana-dumping/ | Sep 26 18:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Microsoft Hijacks More of Education Sector in Carolina, Michigan ... | http://techrights.org/2010/01/27/carolina-michigan-georgia-dump-2/ | Sep 26 18:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - EDGI - Techrights | http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/EDGI | Sep 26 18:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - B I 76C@ 8DGEDG 6I>DC '% % . 6CCJ6A G:EDGI | http://www.annualreports.com/partners/Report/22199 | Sep 26 18:40 |
| schestowitz | I've gotten tired of covering those | Sep 26 18:41 |
| schestowitz | I did it for a while | Sep 26 18:41 |
| schestowitz | And they did it state-wide with governors | Sep 26 18:41 |
| schestowitz | I think it's enough to provide some cases studies, i don't have the time to do that research anymore | Sep 26 18:41 |
| schestowitz | Although I did catch up with Novell today, it seems more important and less repetitive | Sep 26 18:41 |
| schestowitz | I will write about what I found tomorrow | Sep 26 18:42 |
| schestowitz | I got all the needed references | Sep 26 18:42 |
| schestowitz | Which rook 2 hours | Sep 26 18:42 |
| schestowitz | will take another 2 hours to put the stuff together in 4 posts | Sep 26 18:42 |
| schestowitz | So I'll do that between sets | Sep 26 18:42 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] People who are near the end of the normal distribution curve usually either soar or plummet. We should be there for those that plummet. | Sep 26 18:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Swing is good. #music | Sep 26 18:42 | |
| schestowitz | Gives tiem to think how to phrase the sentences | Sep 26 18:43 |
| schestowitz | There's also thsat Michigan ref in the above | Sep 26 18:46 |
| schestowitz | They do the same in schools and campuses | Sep 26 18:46 |
| schestowitz | Not just the unemployed | Sep 26 18:46 |
| schestowitz | Taking (milking) k$30k a year froms students and then forcefeeding them 'free' Micorosft | Sep 26 18:46 |
| schestowitz | At that cost you'd think they should abtain injecting drugs into students' brains | Sep 26 18:47 |
| schestowitz | Here there are students who pay $20k a year | Sep 26 18:47 |
| schestowitz | 12k pounds per year | Sep 26 18:47 |
| schestowitz | And they still ge treated like dirt | Sep 26 18:47 |
| schestowitz | Even though they actually pay people's wages around the university | Sep 26 18:47 |
| schestowitz | a friend's cousin (from Malaysia) starts university and needs my help moving into more decent accommodation. They don't prioritise her because they think they can get away with it, she's not prominent on campus. | Sep 26 18:47 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @lamm File under #Religion Poisons Everything: 2 #Tibetan monks self-immolate amid #DalaiLama feud http://ur1.ca/57bz7 #China #politics | Sep 26 18:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Bill Gates described as a man who pays his taxes and is also a huge philanthropist on BPC World Service. Chuckles to self. | Sep 26 18:47 | |
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| schestowitz | So tomorrow I go with her to sort these things out | Sep 26 18:48 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: How sad to lose Wangari #Maathai - what a great fighter for #women's rights, the #enviro http://p.ost.im/p/e23UJh | Sep 26 18:49 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Sep 26 18:49 |
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| neildarlow | Why on earth won't Amarok pick-up episodes 60 and 61 of TechBytes? Very odd! | Sep 26 18:51 |
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| schestowitz | How does it work? | Sep 26 18:53 |
| schestowitz | Maybe I can mend our RSS feeds | Sep 26 18:53 |
| schestowitz | unless the problem is different? | Sep 26 18:53 |
| neildarlow | Not sure they're broken. DoggCatcher on Android sees them all | Sep 26 18:54 |
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| neildarlow | Maybe I'll try gPodder | Sep 26 18:56 |
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| schestowitz | ok, let me know how it goes | Sep 26 19:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Mr Muscle glass cleaner leaves bad streaks, not impressed. Looked for windowlene & could not find it. Do they still make it? | Sep 26 19:04 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] That has reminded me of the dodgy shorts worn by football players in the 80's. If you can't remember I envy you. | Sep 26 19:11 | |
| sebsebseb | hi | Sep 26 19:11 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Why would you even think of doing that? | Sep 26 19:12 | |
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| MinceR | yes, never mind backroom deals with OEMs and hardware makers, GNU/Linux doesn't dominate the market because it isn't sufficiently like macos | Sep 26 19:16 |
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| MinceR | what were we thinking? | Sep 26 19:16 |
| XFaCE | I dunno, what were you thinking? | Sep 26 19:16 |
| MinceR | 201442 <@MinceR> yes, never mind backroom deals with OEMs and hardware makers, GNU/Linux doesn't dominate the market because it isn't sufficiently like macos | Sep 26 19:16 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: XFaCE Listended to the Techbytes with me in it yet? | Sep 26 19:17 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: Were you arguing with Snittel? | Sep 26 19:17 |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: not yet | Sep 26 19:17 |
| XFaCE | sebsebseb: What's your accent? | Sep 26 19:17 |
| sebsebseb | XFaCE: Oh you been listening? | Sep 26 19:17 |
| XFaCE | sebsebseb: I got through a quarter of it. | Sep 26 19:17 |
| sebsebseb | cool :) | Sep 26 19:18 |
| MinceR | never mind | Sep 26 19:18 |
| sebsebseb | as for my accent not qute sure what it is really | Sep 26 19:18 |
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| XFaCE | ok, where is your point of origin? | Sep 26 19:18 |
| XFaCE | hi thistleweb | Sep 26 19:18 |
| ThistleWeb | o/ | Sep 26 19:19 |
| XFaCE | o_/ | Sep 26 19:19 |
| sebsebseb | Diablo-D3: LIstended to the Techbytes with me in it yet, no? | Sep 26 19:19 |
| Diablo-D3 | I dont listen to it to begin with | Sep 26 19:21 |
| sebsebseb | Diablo-D3: oh? | Sep 26 19:21 |
| sebsebseb | XFaCE: I assume you still want to go on it with me some time, and I don't expect it would be as long when we do, by a long way, but yeah :D | Sep 26 19:22 |
| sebsebseb | and probably with both Roy and Tim, just got to arrange that if going to do it | Sep 26 19:22 |
| Diablo-D3 | sebsebseb: I hate podcasts. | Sep 26 19:23 |
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| sebsebseb | Diablo-D3: I tend to listen to music on the computer, but I do listen to Techbytes, and I should listen to the other Tuxjam episodes there have been so far | Sep 26 19:24 |
| sebsebseb | Diablo-D3: ,but yeah I am not much of a audiocast listner either | Sep 26 19:24 |
| XFaCE | sebsebseb: Yes | Sep 26 19:28 |
| XFaCE | brb | Sep 26 19:28 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] USA still banging on about FARC & drugs while ignoring their Columbian drug running government mates. | Sep 26 19:29 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] http://ur1.ca/57d4w I made chili sauce #shamelessselfpromotion | Sep 26 19:41 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I was not picking fault, more commenting on how if #language was a little different.. | Sep 26 19:42 | |
| schestowitz | _goblin: I seem to be getting a promotion next month. Description of job (post-doctoral research): Analysis of techniques for 3-D imaging in collaboration with a hospital. | Sep 26 19:45 |
| schestowitz | That would mean that I too will have more time restrictions | Sep 26 19:45 |
| schestowitz | So we'll need to coordinate recording time better | Sep 26 19:45 |
| schestowitz | Which might work well when you and I set up the live stream | Sep 26 19:45 |
| schestowitz | Cause we need to be strict re timing then | Sep 26 19:45 |
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| neildarlow | schestowitz:, _goblin: the linuxoutlaws guys have built a good process and documented it in one of their episodes | Sep 26 19:48 |
| XFaCE | back | Sep 26 19:48 |
| schestowitz | neildarlow: yes, #200 | Sep 26 19:50 |
| schestowitz | I listened to it | Sep 26 19:50 |
| schestowitz | I sent it to _goblin as well | Sep 26 19:50 |
| neildarlow | was it helpful? | Sep 26 19:50 |
| schestowitz | Not particularly applicable to us | Sep 26 19:50 |
| neildarlow | everyone's needs differ :) | Sep 26 19:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Defend that statement or withdraw it. | Sep 26 19:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Also, bug report or it didn't happen. | Sep 26 19:56 | |
| schestowitz | They do it more professionally than we ever did | Sep 26 19:57 |
| schestowitz | But they also did it since 2007 IIRC | Sep 26 19:58 |
| schestowitz | we started just 11 months ago | Sep 26 19:58 |
| schestowitz | we are improving over time as we manage to fathom the basic things | Sep 26 19:58 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] perhaps the only solution to the #pollspam is to #ignore or #block the person who started the poll, or leave the relevant groups | Sep 26 19:59 | |
| _goblin | hi neildarlow ! | Sep 26 20:01 |
| neildarlow | Dan does a lot of post-production work. I think their mono podcast is better quality than LinuxActionShow!'s stereo one | Sep 26 20:01 |
| neildarlow | _goblin: hello | Sep 26 20:01 |
| _goblin | I think me and Roy had a few stereo shows...I think people complained. | Sep 26 20:01 |
| _goblin | unless my memory fails me.... | Sep 26 20:01 |
| neildarlow | ultimately content is what really matters and i doubt the value of stereo for voice | Sep 26 20:02 |
| _goblin | wow.....over 1000 reads to my xfce/sabayon article in 4 hours from Distrowatch alone | Sep 26 20:02 |
| sebsebseb | _goblin: I read that last night :) or uh this morning even | Sep 26 20:03 |
| sebsebseb | itt was good yeah :) | Sep 26 20:03 |
| schestowitz | Hi _goblin | Sep 26 20:03 |
| neildarlow | i read that today. nice job | Sep 26 20:03 |
| schestowitz | how are you? | Sep 26 20:03 |
| schestowitz | [20:01] <_goblin> unless my memory fails me.... | Sep 26 20:03 |
| schestowitz | we didn't split the audio with enough overlap | Sep 26 20:03 |
| schestowitz | But anyway, I don't see the point, it just inflates the files | Sep 26 20:04 |
| schestowitz | bad for downloads, streaming, server space, bandwidth we pay for.. | Sep 26 20:04 |
| schestowitz | the small mp3 version (low-quality) is so small that it's worth it... can actually reduce bandwidth overall and it takes little disk space | Sep 26 20:05 |
| _goblin | neildarlow: its given me an inbox full of email and comments on the site...... the thing is I always try to reply to someone who has taken the time to comment/eemail, now it means Ive alot of typing to do | Sep 26 20:05 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] USMC files #DMCA against content creators in Second Life - http://exm.nr/q3ntSG more intellectual monopoly insanity #sl #virtualworlds | Sep 26 20:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Philippines: Anti-#Planking Bill Draws More Planks - http://bit.ly/nBC62T you can't make this stuff up (v @EthanZ) | Sep 26 20:06 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] Wait, what? *another* 2 !android phones with 720p displays? http://nd.gd/xj, http://nd.gd/xk. Holy Sh!t batman ... /cc @RamanusAsango @nj3ma | Sep 26 20:07 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] or maybe they hope to confuse people so they don't know how many strikes they're allowed... | Sep 26 20:21 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] I wonder if the #pollspam is a way of deterring #spammers from joining lots of groups, they get spammed themselves @support | Sep 26 20:23 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] Dear !webdev's, Is it impossible to use <noscript /> tags to let users know your creation requires !javascript? | Sep 26 20:26 | |
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| schestowitz | hi _goblin | Sep 26 20:26 |
| schestowitz | before you got cut off I wrote *knighted | Sep 26 20:27 |
| schestowitz | with jolly roger hat | Sep 26 20:27 |
| schestowitz | From the Queen | Sep 26 20:27 |
| schestowitz | As recognition for Pirate of the British Empire (PBE) | Sep 26 20:27 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @eebrah: Dear !webdev's, Is it impossible to use #noscript tags to let users know your creation requires !javascript? | Sep 26 20:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] Dear !webdev's, Is it impossible to use #noscript tags to let users know your creation requires !javascript? | Sep 26 20:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] It takes all of us, optimists and all :) | Sep 26 20:27 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Procedural Swamp - http://bit.ly/pVft0J great post: "I am baffled by the Authors Guild suit against #HathiTrust" #copyright | Sep 26 20:29 | |
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| __goblin | right....switched to tethering on my htx | Sep 26 20:30 |
| __goblin | *htc | Sep 26 20:30 |
| __goblin | o2 is being its usual unreliable self | Sep 26 20:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !Google is giving $200,000 to one Egyptian entrepreneur http://goo.gl/pHnmg | Sep 26 20:31 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Nominations for !Xubuntu Project Lead 2011 http://goo.gl/VjYoJ | Sep 26 20:32 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @glynmoody The Procedural Swamp - http://bit.ly/pVft0J great post: "I am baffled by the Authors Guild suit against #HathiTrust" #copy ... | Sep 26 20:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Fennel. | Sep 26 20:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] No surprise as #o2 lets me down again. Good job I can easily tether my HTC (t-mobile) and stay online. | Sep 26 20:34 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] I am contemplating leaving every #Identica group I am currently subscribed to, in an attempt to prevent #pollspam @support | Sep 26 20:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Bacon And Coffee Powered World Record - http://is.gd/I89xjW #coffeecar | Sep 26 20:37 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The high price of #gold: death and destruction in #Amazon mineral rush - http://bit.ly/oFoEn4 other, forgotten victims of financial crisis | Sep 26 20:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] The new http://ur1.ca/57bn3 is live! Check it out! Read more at http://is.gd/HT3Ae6 #ubuntu #developer | Sep 26 20:39 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] Crap! now I went and deleted the wrong dent :( | Sep 26 20:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] Dear !webdev's, Is it impossible to use #noscript tags to let users know that your creation requires !javascript? | Sep 26 20:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mako/@mako] It takes two to tango, but only one to dent about blogging about giving academic articles cliche titles. http://ur1.ca/57dqk | Sep 26 20:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Dyson.. A British success story with nearly everyone from the community that created the company thrown away. !capitalism #i'mallrightjack | Sep 26 20:46 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] voted for "Red Hat (or fedora, centOS, etc)" | Sep 26 20:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Over on Diaspora: A request for help: http://ur1.ca/57drk - Do you use #xfce ? | Sep 26 20:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Whoa. I did not expect those results. | Sep 26 20:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Absolutely stuffed. | Sep 26 20:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Is Spotify requiring all new users to have a !Facebook account in order to sign up? http://goo.gl/086Ek | Sep 26 20:47 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] RT @jbfavre Those who want a microblogging only !statusnet should consider installing their own: all social features are plugins and can ... | Sep 26 20:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is psquid with 139 dents! | Sep 26 20:49 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: http://prxbx.com/other/paulrupe/AdDomainList.txt | Sep 26 20:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting text/plain type | Sep 26 20:50 |
| DaemonFC | there's a blast from the past :) | Sep 26 20:50 |
| DaemonFC | someone based a Proximatron ad filter list on one of my hosts files way back when | Sep 26 20:51 |
| DaemonFC | I still remember some of this | Sep 26 20:52 |
| DaemonFC | that's almost all me | Sep 26 20:52 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Australian !Linux Users Threaten Microsoft with Consumer Commission http://goo.gl/2U0K1 via @fabsh | Sep 26 20:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @openbytes: Over on !Diaspora: A request for help: http://ur1.ca/57drk - Do you use !xfce ? | Sep 26 20:52 | |
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| DaemonFC | it was kind of fun maintaining an ad blocking hosts file | Sep 26 20:53 |
| DaemonFC | I think MVPS still maintains theirs | Sep 26 20:53 |
| DaemonFC | it was over 500 KB last I checked | Sep 26 20:54 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Announcing new CC Board Member Brian Fitzgerald! http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/29109 | Sep 26 21:01 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Someone had to say it... one of your five fruits/vegatables a day? :) | Sep 26 21:02 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] "7 percent of iPhone users have already 'jailbroken' their devices" http://goo.gl/vjkxP | Sep 26 21:06 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] New Blog Post | The Day #Identica Groups Became Annoying http://is.gd/FHJl4z !linux @support | Sep 26 21:07 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The Day Identica Groups Became Annoying | The Digital Prism .::. Size~: 23.71 KB | Sep 26 21:07 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] DNA clears Virginia man of rape, but court balks at full exoneration http://identi.ca/url/53884911 #policestate | Sep 26 21:11 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] More than 11,000 CA kindergarteners skipped a vaccine in 2010 because of parents' anti-vax fears http://identi.ca/url/53884913 | Sep 26 21:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Comments About the FPGA Platform Used in the Data Acquisition System of the OPERA Experiment http://identi.ca/url/53884930 !science !bc | Sep 26 21:12 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] One of the Best Bits of Programming Advice I ever Got http://identi.ca/url/53882038 | Sep 26 21:19 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] IF RON PAUL IS NOT ELECTED IN 2012, WE'RE ALL F*CKED! - YouTube #usa #world http://youtu.be/6lDZmqpezgw | Sep 26 21:21 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: IF RON PAUL IS NOT ELECTED IN 2012, WE'RE ALL F*CKED! - YouTube .::. Size~: 98.4 KB | Sep 26 21:21 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: maybe you would know.. | Sep 26 21:21 |
| schestowitz | or MinceR or any kde user | Sep 26 21:21 |
| DaemonFC | huh? | Sep 26 21:22 |
| DaemonFC | what? | Sep 26 21:22 |
| schestowitz | is there a way to play videos in plasma desktop without using that new widgegt from nw kde"? | Sep 26 21:22 |
| schestowitz | It had audio player | Sep 26 21:22 |
| schestowitz | Which supports many formats but won't show videos | Sep 26 21:22 |
| DaemonFC | dragon player is the default thing to open videos | Sep 26 21:22 |
| schestowitz | is there a downloadable plasmoid for video? | Sep 26 21:22 |
| schestowitz | I kno one was being worked on | Sep 26 21:22 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] RT @TonyclementCPC: Later this evening I will be voting in favour of the Parliamentary Motion to extend Canada's Libya mission. #cdnpoli | Sep 26 21:22 | |
| DaemonFC | I have no idea | Sep 26 21:23 |
| DaemonFC | I don't need anything like that | Sep 26 21:23 |
| schestowitz | hmmm... | Sep 26 21:24 |
| schestowitz | it amtches the search for video | Sep 26 21:24 |
| schestowitz | but it's audio onl | Sep 26 21:24 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Tzaf Identizens. | Sep 26 21:24 | |
| DaemonFC | it would be nice if some of the browsers for KDE weren't utter crap | Sep 26 21:25 |
| DaemonFC | million and one hacks for Firefox to fit in | Sep 26 21:25 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] RT @NathanFillion: There is a bit at the bottom to say your two cents on Free Speech and Firefly posters. http://t.co/OYxzAYpm | Sep 26 21:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] RT @NathanFillion: FIREFLY GETS PANTIES IN KNOT THREATENS WHOMEVER WATCHES WITH DEATH http://t.co/OYxzAYpm Another example of, "Just relax" | Sep 26 21:26 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Sep 26 21:26 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Sep 26 21:26 |
| DaemonFC | http://h30565.www3.hp.com/t5/Feature-Articles/Linus-Torvalds-s-Lessons-on-Software-Development-Management/ba-p/440 | Sep 26 21:26 |
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| MinceR | schestowitz: i moved to XFCE already :> | Sep 26 21:31 |
| schestowitz | whoa | Sep 26 21:33 |
| schestowitz | everyone is moving to it | Sep 26 21:33 |
| schestowitz | I mean, Linux i can understand | Sep 26 21:33 |
| schestowitz | But experts like _Goblin and MinceR?! | Sep 26 21:34 |
| schestowitz | *Linus I meant | Sep 26 21:34 |
| schestowitz | joke ruined | Sep 26 21:34 |
| schestowitz | shacked by typo | Sep 26 21:34 |
| DaemonFC | "- Transgaming / Cedega is quite likely to be acquired by a public company in the next quarter or less. " | Sep 26 21:35 |
| DaemonFC | who the hell would buy that? | Sep 26 21:35 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: it's the major DE if you don't count KDE, GNOME or Unity, all three of which suck now :> | Sep 26 21:35 |
| schestowitz | what sucks in kd4? just curious... | Sep 26 21:35 |
| schestowitz | btw, I hate a kate crash today | Sep 26 21:35 |
| schestowitz | it's extreemly rare | Sep 26 21:36 |
| schestowitz | happens maybe twice a year | Sep 26 21:36 |
| schestowitz | and this time I lost data | Sep 26 21:36 |
| schestowitz | just two sentences thankfully | Sep 26 21:36 |
| schestowitz | http://www.zdnet.com.au/hp-ceo-to-decide-pc-unit-fate-by-years-end-339323037.htm | Sep 26 21:36 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: HP CEO to decide PC unit fate by year's end - Business - News - ZDNet Australia .::. Size~: 120.29 KB | Sep 26 21:36 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: maybe yo momma | Sep 26 21:36 |
| schestowitz | to do Gonad's accounting | Sep 26 21:36 |
| schestowitz | on WIn32 | Sep 26 21:36 |
| _Goblin | schestowitz: expert? | Sep 26 21:37 |
| schestowitz | l33t? | Sep 26 21:37 |
| _Goblin | schestowitz: I'm just delving into the wonderful world of xfce properly.... | Sep 26 21:37 |
| schestowitz | btw, you missed my joke earlier, I think | Sep 26 21:37 |
| _Goblin | talking of which.... | Sep 26 21:37 |
| schestowitz | [20:26] <schestowitz> hi _goblin | Sep 26 21:37 |
| schestowitz | [20:27] <schestowitz> before you got cut off I wrote *knighted | Sep 26 21:37 |
| schestowitz | [20:27] <schestowitz> with jolly roger hat | Sep 26 21:37 |
| schestowitz | [20:27] <schestowitz> From the Queen | Sep 26 21:37 |
| schestowitz | [20:27] <schestowitz> As recognition for Pirate of the British Empire (PBE) | Sep 26 21:37 |
| DaemonFC | http://h30565.www3.hp.com/t5/Feature-Articles/6-Products-That-Became-Technology-Roadkill/ba-p/36 | Sep 26 21:37 |
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| _Goblin | :) | Sep 26 21:37 |
| DaemonFC | Kin is #1 on there | Sep 26 21:38 |
| schestowitz | roadkin | Sep 26 21:38 |
| schestowitz | Kin Bill | Sep 26 21:38 |
| schestowitz | Kin Sung Il | Sep 26 21:38 |
| _Goblin | Quick Request: If anyone is running Xfce and would be kind enough to grab their desktop screen, i'd love to use it for an article/showcase on the asthetical diversity of xfce. | Sep 26 21:38 |
| MinceR | 223428 <@schestowitz> what sucks in kd4? just curious... | Sep 26 21:38 |
| MinceR | plasma-desktop, kwin and krunner crashing left and right | Sep 26 21:39 |
| schestowitz | do they? | Sep 26 21:39 |
| MinceR | systray applets becoming dependent on plasma-desktop | Sep 26 21:39 |
| schestowitz | I use LTS of Kubuntu | Sep 26 21:39 |
| MinceR | in general, everything going monolithic | Sep 26 21:39 |
| schestowitz | and debian sequeeze with kde | Sep 26 21:39 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[sagarun/@sagarun] How to rock an algorithms interview: http://blog.palantir.com/2011/09/26/how-to-rock-an-algorithms-interview/ /via HN | Sep 26 21:39 | |
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| schestowitz | the debian one is newer and nevr crash on me at all | Sep 26 21:39 |
| MinceR | oh, and plasma-desktop routinely forgetting its settings | Sep 26 21:39 |
| schestowitz | except x | Sep 26 21:39 |
| MinceR | and kwin being horribly glitchy when compositing is disabled | Sep 26 21:40 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: 4.2 maybe had those issues | Sep 26 21:40 |
| MinceR | 4.3 had them too | Sep 26 21:40 |
| schestowitz | rarely | Sep 26 21:40 |
| schestowitz | if you killall it | Sep 26 21:40 |
| MinceR | and it was officially "really stable this time, we swear" | Sep 26 21:40 |
| schestowitz | and then started again, which was necessary when there ware ram leaks | Sep 26 21:40 |
| MinceR | and i had enough of software where the so-called stable releases aren't always stable | Sep 26 21:40 |
| schestowitz | mine is very stable | Sep 26 21:40 |
| DaemonFC | I liked OS/2 | Sep 26 21:40 |
| DaemonFC | it was far superior to Windows 95 | Sep 26 21:41 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: you were like 10 | Sep 26 21:41 |
| MinceR | especially after having 4.x forced on me from 4.0, because the idiots maintaining kubuntu did it that way | Sep 26 21:41 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: it was still a bastard hybrid of cp/m and vms... | Sep 26 21:41 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: They sold IBM PCs with them at Radio Shack | Sep 26 21:41 |
| DaemonFC | there's still eComStation | Sep 26 21:43 |
| DaemonFC | IBM can't open source it because a lot of the code was written by Microsoft | Sep 26 21:43 |
| MinceR | afaik the company that releases eCS has no access to core parts like the kernel | Sep 26 21:43 |
| MinceR | so it's frozen in the past | Sep 26 21:43 |
| MinceR | also, it's the same braindead design as NT | Sep 26 21:43 |
| MinceR | if we can call that a "design" at all | Sep 26 21:44 |
| XFaCE | XFCE? | Sep 26 21:47 |
| XFaCE | Woot | Sep 26 21:47 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.ecomstation.com/news.phtml?action=fullnews&id=3698 | Sep 26 21:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: eComStation :: News :: .::. Size~: 28.42 KB | Sep 26 21:47 |
| XFaCE | wowwwww [/monotone] | Sep 26 21:48 |
| schestowitz | everybody loves xfce | Sep 26 21:48 |
| schestowitz | I'll try it later on debian | Sep 26 21:49 |
| schestowitz | how big is the metapackage xfce? | Sep 26 21:49 |
| schestowitz | +packages | Sep 26 21:49 |
| schestowitz | roughly | Sep 26 21:49 |
| MinceR | metapackages tend to be tiny, considering that they only have dependencies :> | Sep 26 21:49 |
| schestowitz | yes,. thus the next line | Sep 26 21:51 |
| schestowitz | but you would not install the pertinent ones | Sep 26 21:51 |
| schestowitz | just their parents | Sep 26 21:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[faither/@faither] I accidently my #amarok using Music Brain ^^ | Sep 26 21:52 | |
| schestowitz | xfce4 | Sep 26 21:53 |
| schestowitz | 89 mb | Sep 26 21:53 |
| schestowitz | 121 packages | Sep 26 21:53 |
| schestowitz | oops | Sep 26 21:53 |
| schestowitz | 38 | Sep 26 21:53 |
| schestowitz | I'll give it a go later | Sep 26 21:53 |
| schestowitz | LOL | Sep 26 21:54 |
| schestowitz | Jonathan Schwartz... his blog got hijacked | Sep 26 21:55 |
| schestowitz | by some oraclem staffer | Sep 26 21:55 |
| schestowitz | http://blogs.oracle.com/jonathan/ | Sep 26 21:55 |
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| schestowitz | Schwartz's blog rdirects to and and RSS feed does too | Sep 26 21:55 |
| schestowitz | So he grabs traffic that SCOracle does not deserve | Sep 26 21:55 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[copiesofcopies/@copiesofcopies] That link tries to log me in as you... | Sep 26 22:01 | |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: There is a base XFCE meta package and the goodies package | Sep 26 22:05 |
| schestowitz | I got it | Sep 26 22:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Don't let #privacy law get stuck in 1986. Demand a digital upgrade! https://eff.org/r.4CQ #ECPA | Sep 26 22:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] A Bundle of Updates Give 10 Linux Distributions a Boost http://tinyurl.com/64hx6qc #linux | Sep 26 22:07 | |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: A Bundle of Updates Give 10 Linux Distributions a Boost | PCWorld Business Center .::. Size~: 80.55 KB | Sep 26 22:08 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Oops! That's me. | Sep 26 22:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] answered "Test: What is your favorite !Android phone in USA and why?" | Sep 26 22:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] hotia, un @pho -ton xD | Sep 26 22:22 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] "Wyoming Sheriffs Told Federal BATF & IRS Agents To Abide By The Constitution Or Face Immediate Arrest." #policestate http://goo.gl/xy9VA | Sep 26 22:27 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Wyoming Sheriffs Told Federal BATF & IRS Agents To Abide By The Constitution Or Face Immediate Arrest. UPDATED! « Political Vel Craft .::. Size~: 179.59 KB | Sep 26 22:27 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] RT @ovigia "Wyoming Sheriffs Told Federal BATF & IRS Agents To Abide By The Constitution Or Face Immediate Arrest." #policestate http:// ... | Sep 26 22:31 | |
| Diablo-D3 | what the fuck: https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Bush_hid_the_facts | Sep 26 22:40 |
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| DaemonFC | http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/183/snapshot4u.png | Sep 26 22:44 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] What #media coverage omits about U.S. #hikers released by #Iran - Glenn Greenwald - Salon.com via @£og€x http://goo.gl/rn9ff | Sep 26 22:46 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: What media coverage omits about U.S. hikers released by Iran - Glenn Greenwald - Salon.com .::. Size~: 78.82 KB | Sep 26 22:46 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Ron Paul 2012 - Why Ron Paul Must Be President - YouTube #ronpaul http://ur1.ca/57ej6 | Sep 26 22:47 | |
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| DaemonFC | Ron Paul would be a disaster | Sep 26 22:53 |
| DaemonFC | not as big as Rick Perry | Sep 26 22:53 |
| DaemonFC | but it's like comparing two turds to see which is more disgusting | Sep 26 22:53 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: nice screenshot | Sep 26 22:59 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Sep 26 22:59 |
| gnufreex | DaemonFC: Ron Paul might save USA... so he's a disaster. Others will run it to the ground and make a world a better place. | Sep 26 23:11 |
| DaemonFC | Ron Paul is a bigot and a shill for big business | Sep 26 23:12 |
| DaemonFC | eliminate the government so the rich don't have to pay tax | Sep 26 23:12 |
| DaemonFC | marvelous | Sep 26 23:12 |
| DaemonFC | http://9gag.com/gag/285054 | Sep 26 23:13 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] A Peel Regional Police plainclothes drug officer is facing serious drug charges. The news has been kept quiet: http://is.gd/RSmCxn | Sep 26 23:22 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Toronto News: Peel cop’s drug charges kept quiet - thestar.com .::. Size~: 101.13 KB | Sep 26 23:22 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] "Give me the liberty to know, to utter, and to argue freely according to conscience, above all liberties." ~John Milton Areopagitica 1644 !q | Sep 26 23:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @wayneborean A Peel Regional Police plainclothes drug officer is facing serious drug charges. The news has been kept quiet: http://is ... | Sep 26 23:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] "Give me the liberty to know, to utter, and to argue freely according to conscience, above all liberties."~John Milton, Areopagitica 1644 !q | Sep 26 23:49 | |
| schestowitz | > Cool :) | Sep 26 23:49 |
| schestowitz | > All that Hadoop stuff is very interesting... Im in the US right now | Sep 26 23:49 |
| schestowitz | > trying to meet with people in the few big companies that use it | Sep 26 23:49 |
| schestowitz | > seriously and see what they're doing as there's not much material to | Sep 26 23:49 |
| schestowitz | > learn from online | Sep 26 23:49 |
| schestowitz | anyone knows a large company using hadoop? | Sep 26 23:50 |
| schestowitz | Hadoop is an interesting project. Google promised not to assert its patents (MapReduce one) against it and Microsoft pretty much nailed a whole box of nails into Yahoo!, which left Zimbra in a bad position (passed to VMware), led to the fleeing of PHP/BSD talent from Yahoo (inc. Jeremy with his mysql-fu), so... one worries about Hadoop. | Sep 26 23:52 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @anked: “@9er0: Danke an @gruenebundestag, @joernpl, @aprica für Orga. Danke @anked, @ccbuhr, @kons http://p.ost.im/p/e2EscK | Sep 26 23:52 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Sep 26 23:52 |
| Diablo-D3 | schestowitz: hadoop is a fucking failure | Sep 26 23:52 |
| Diablo-D3 | it was written by idiots who cant code | Sep 26 23:53 |
| Diablo-D3 | its a nightmare | Sep 26 23:53 |
| Diablo-D3 | its an insult to java | Sep 26 23:53 |
| Diablo-D3 | and hadoop is an apache project | Sep 26 23:53 |
| Diablo-D3 | why are you bringing up yahoo? | Sep 26 23:53 |
| schestowitz | !google yahoo hadoop | Sep 26 23:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Hadoop - YDN - Yahoo! Developer Network | http://developer.yahoo.com/hadoop/ | Sep 26 23:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Yahoo! Hadoop Blog | http://developer.yahoo.com/blogs/hadoop/ | Sep 26 23:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Hadoop Tutorial - YDN - Yahoo! Developer Network | http://developer.yahoo.com/hadoop/tutorial/ | Sep 26 23:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Exclusive: Yahoo launching Hadoop spinoff this week — Cloud ... | http://gigaom.com/cloud/exclusive-yahoo-launching-hadoop-spinoff-this-week/ | Sep 26 23:56 |
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