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schestowitz> Hi, Roy,Oct 28 08:46
schestowitz> Oct 28 08:46
schestowitz> Green as in immature.  See the first and last posts in the thread:Oct 28 08:46
schestowitz> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1812999&page=2Oct 28 08:46
TechrightsSocialTitle: Quitting Banshee: the reasons why - Page 2 - Ubuntu Forums .::. Size~: 102.2 KBOct 28 08:46
schestowitzBeen always wondering how hard it is to change one's IP address for *All* services.. http://joindiaspora.com/posts/685099 "Bookmarked, Thanks.'Oct 28 08:55
TechrightsSocial@: Oct 28 08:55
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/685234Oct 28 10:12
TechrightsSocial@: Oct 28 10:12
schestowitz>> Jono's silence speaks loud enough.Oct 28 12:14
schestowitz> Oct 28 12:14
schestowitz> There is some movement:Oct 28 12:14
schestowitz> Oct 28 12:14
schestowitz> http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2011/10/dell-canonical-to-sell-ubuntu-pcs-at-retail-locations-in-china.arsOct 28 12:14
TechrightsSocialTitle: Dell, Canonical to sell Ubuntu PCs at retail locations in China .::. Size~: 32.9 KBOct 28 12:14
schestowitz> Oct 28 12:14
schestowitz> I wish the same could be said for the US store.Oct 28 12:14
schestowitzJono has been evading queries about other markets.Oct 28 12:14
MinceRwhen was the last time jono said something of note?Oct 28 12:38
schestowitzopenrepsectOct 28 12:39
schestowitzaka "stop attacking us, you zealots"Oct 28 12:39
MinceR:>Oct 28 12:40
schestowitzI will probably travel to London again at the end of next month... :-)Oct 28 13:05
schestowitzjono moved to the USOct 28 13:05
schestowitzLand of PR, although the UK too does that stuffOct 28 13:06
schestowitzJono is never around the UK, I thinkOct 28 13:06
schestowitzor at least not that he announces that...Oct 28 13:06
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/84738403  http://identi.ca/notice/84738420Oct 28 13:20
TechrightsSocial@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Friday, 28-Oct-11 12:17:48 UTC - Identi.ca: Hardcore Apple followers are still ridiculing and insulting @rms for merely making a statement about Steve Jobs. They fail.Oct 28 13:20
TechrightsSocial@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Friday, 28-Oct-11 12:18:55 UTC - Identi.ca: What Cult Members such as John Gruber fail to realise that their real effect is that @rms becomes known to more people. #fsfOct 28 13:20
schestowitzRichard Stallman (RMS) has become to Apple followers what Richard Dawkins has become to Creationists.Oct 28 13:21
MinceR:>Oct 28 13:21
schestowitz" DOKINSDOKINS DOKINS... I kill you!!"Oct 28 13:24
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/84738298 http://identi.ca/conversation/84676220#notice-84738467Oct 28 13:27
TechrightsSocial@Charles-H. Schulz (charlesschulz)'s status on Friday, 28-Oct-11 12:12:24 UTC - Identi.ca: Please elaborate. #Suse has always been a developer of #LibreOffice producing 25% of contribs. Are free elections part of #MSFT influence?Oct 28 13:27
schestowitzNovell employees had contractual obligations to Microsoft.Oct 28 13:27
TechrightsSocialTitle: Conversation - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 13.41 KBOct 28 13:27
schestowitz"But there's a difference: @rms is no cynic"Oct 28 13:27
schestowitz"85% of them probably never even heard of him before."Oct 28 13:36
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/687341Oct 28 13:36
TechrightsSocial@: Oct 28 13:36
schestowitzExactly, and now they start reading about what he *really* stands for (not the distortions of his views).Oct 28 13:36
schestowitz"Well, duh. They still believe that both GNU/Linux and MagOS are based on UNIX."Oct 28 13:37
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/687326Oct 28 13:37
TechrightsSocial@: Oct 28 13:37
schestowitzMagOSOct 28 13:37
schestowitz:-)Oct 28 13:37
schestowitzSounds like MagotsOct 28 13:37
MinceRhttp://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/MagosOct 28 13:38
TechrightsSocialTitle: Magos - Lexicanum .::. Size~: 16.14 KBOct 28 13:38
schestowitz"Mindless fanboys, nothing new there! " http://joindiaspora.com/posts/687326Oct 28 13:49
TechrightsSocial@: Oct 28 13:49
schestowitzMinceR: LOL, didn't know...Oct 28 13:50
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/84738751Oct 28 13:53
TechrightsSocial@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Friday, 28-Oct-11 12:35:43 UTC - Identi.ca: People who criticise #Microsoft are not "Microsoft hater". Some are "Crime haters", others are "Proprietary haters". Some are both.Oct 28 13:53
schestowitz*slowpoke.xcf*  http://joindiaspora.com/posts/686654Oct 28 13:54
TechrightsSocial@: Oct 28 13:54
MinceR:)Oct 28 13:55
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/Metztli_IT/statuses/129917481887350784Oct 28 15:47
TechrightsSocial@Metztli_IT: ♺ @schestowitz: Richard Stallman( #RMS) has become to Apple followers [and #Ubuntu ❤ers] what Richard #Dawkins has become to Creationists.Oct 28 15:47
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/84739214Oct 28 15:49
TechrightsSocial@Sander (sandersch)'s status on Friday, 28-Oct-11 12:54:24 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Hardcore Apple followers fail by default.Oct 28 15:49
qu1j0t3schestowitz: good tweet about crime haters, proprietary hatersOct 28 15:56
qu1j0t3schestowitz: or broken-tech hatesOct 28 15:56
qu1j0t3rs*Oct 28 15:56
qu1j0t3schestowitz: there's a lot there to hate. :)Oct 28 15:56
schestowitzqu1j0t3:  see Apple Lost Respect http://techrights.org/2011/10/28/losing-respect/Oct 28 16:24
TechrightsSocialTitle: Apple Lost Respect | Techrights .::. Size~: 93.07 KBOct 28 16:24
schestowitzI posted it justn nowOct 28 16:24
schestowitzIt's not strongly wordedOct 28 16:24
schestowitzBut I am trying to educate readers about why we need FreedomwareOct 28 16:24
schestowitzLike LinuxOct 28 16:24
schestowitzApple is not the solutionOct 28 16:24
qu1j0t3schestowitz: did you read greenwald's latest article on American murder triumphalism?Oct 28 16:24
schestowitzIt's replacing Microsoft with Microsoft2Oct 28 16:24
schestowitzqu1j0t3: I saw the headlineOct 28 16:24
qu1j0t3schestowitz: worth reading, but really leaves with no hopeOct 28 16:24
qu1j0t3schestowitz: it's longOct 28 16:25
schestowitzI lost some interest in this after wikileaks got gaggedOct 28 16:25
qu1j0t3schestowitz: exposes some awful detailsOct 28 16:25
qu1j0t3schestowitz: it's worse than it looksOct 28 16:25
qu1j0t3schestowitz: e.g. ,the awlaki assassination killed his young family members as wellOct 28 16:25
schestowitzI'm not the only one though... who only got more politically involved until the Libya stuff, which was unpopularOct 28 16:25
schestowitzLibye was too West-drivenOct 28 16:25
qu1j0t3schestowitz: this did not dampen the dancing in the streets that a US president assassinatde a citizen without any due processOct 28 16:25
schestowitzNATO, UK, US..Oct 28 16:25
schestowitzin the UK, criminals have their families published tooOct 28 16:26
qu1j0t3Libya was akmost _entirely_ driven by western interests..Oct 28 16:26
schestowitzA cop told me thatOct 28 16:26
schestowitzIt's like in Nazi GermanyOct 28 16:26
qu1j0t3schestowitz: NATO made TWENTY SIX THOUSAND AIR SORTIES.Oct 28 16:26
schestowitzUsing harm to family as a deterrentOct 28 16:26
qu1j0t3schestowitz: they don't do that without an objectiveOct 28 16:26
qu1j0t3schestowitz: and the objective was achieved (control of libyan territory and resources)Oct 28 16:26
qu1j0t3schestowitz: yes, UK riots did this.Oct 28 16:26
qu1j0t3schestowitz: families were evicted because one person was at the riotOct 28 16:27
schestowitzThe West starts getting scary like Red CHinaOct 28 16:27
schestowitzIn terms of what civil rights are still respected and preservedOct 28 16:27
schestowitzSee g20 in TOOct 28 16:27
schestowitzSame thingOct 28 16:27
schestowitzYou wouldn't think one citizen would shoot rubber bullets at anotherOct 28 16:27
schestowitzBut they need to just daemonise the "protesters"Oct 28 16:27
schestowitzMaking them seem like enemies rather than activists of the population at largeOct 28 16:28
schestowitzCost of attack on societyOct 28 16:28
schestowitzOne police car... can spare that... taxpayers pay anywayOct 28 16:28
qu1j0t3yes, it was even set up as a decoyOct 28 16:35
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schestowitz>>>> <sarcasm>Oct 28 17:50
schestowitz>>>>> But we're not a police state. Just a nice little country whereOct 28 17:50
schestowitz>>>>> police should be able to beat on citizens without having to worryOct 28 17:50
schestowitz>>>>> about their deeds being brought out into the open.Oct 28 17:50
schestowitz>>>> </sarcasm>Oct 28 17:50
schestowitz>>>>Oct 28 17:50
schestowitz>>>> And where the government -- chosen in rigged elections by aOct 28 17:50
schestowitz>>>> population that is lied to and totally misinformed by news mediaOct 28 17:50
schestowitz>>>> controlled by the ultra-wealthy -- bombs and invades other nations atOct 28 17:50
schestowitz>>>> will MURDERING MILLIONS OF INNOCENT PEOPLE and replacing theirOct 28 17:50
schestowitz>>>> beneficial governments by puppets serving the ultra-wealthy of theOct 28 17:50
schestowitz>>>> U.S. and international bankers.Oct 28 17:50
schestowitz>>>Oct 28 17:50
schestowitz>>> That's all OK, though, because *we* are of the "right" religion, andOct 28 17:50
schestowitz>>> they are not.  One of us is worth a thousand of them.  Some otherOct 28 17:50
schestowitz>>> country littered with dead bodies is *nothing* compared to theOct 28 17:50
schestowitz>>> *tragedy* of the president getting a BJ from an intern.  Oh, and weOct 28 17:50
schestowitz>>> need to cut the taxes of the wealthy elite, despite the massiveOct 28 17:51
schestowitz>>> deficit, because they are the "job creators".Oct 28 17:51
schestowitz>>Oct 28 17:51
schestowitz>> /Foreign/ sweat-shop labour creators, and tax evaders.Oct 28 17:51
schestowitz>>Oct 28 17:51
schestowitz>> Sadly, none of the above is news. It's called imperialism, and it's beenOct 28 17:51
schestowitz>> happening since the dawn of "civilisation". Alexander the Great did it,Oct 28 17:51
schestowitz>> Julius Caesar did it, Elizabeth I and subsequent English monarchs didOct 28 17:51
schestowitz>> it, Hitler did it (briefly), and now it's America's turn to invade andOct 28 17:51
schestowitz>> conquer. And like every other empire, its instigators will tell you it'sOct 28 17:51
schestowitz>> in the name of "peace", whilst waving some moral or religious banner,Oct 28 17:51
schestowitz>> but the reality is it's just about a tiny minority of "elites" pillagingOct 28 17:51
schestowitz>> the earth for money and power, whilst slaying millions of "peasants" inOct 28 17:51
schestowitz>> the process. Eventually the American empire will fall, like they all do,Oct 28 17:51
schestowitz>> but then we'll just have the next one to look forward to, assumingOct 28 17:51
schestowitz>> there's anything left of the planet once America's corporate dictatorsOct 28 17:51
schestowitz>> have finished raping it.Oct 28 17:51
schestowitzfrom USENET today..Oct 28 17:51
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/84738871 https://identi.ca/notice/84738872Oct 28 19:05
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schestowitzthe troll is trying to challenge a no censorship policyOct 28 19:06
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schestowitz>     Jobs saw how to make these computers stylish and smooth. ThatOct 28 19:10
schestowitz>     would normally be positive, but not in this case, since itOct 28 19:10
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schestowitz>     has the paradoxical effect of making their controlling natureOct 28 19:11
schestowitz>     seem acceptable.Oct 28 19:11
schestowitz> Oct 28 19:11
schestowitz>     Jobs' death inspired a flood of articles lauding him forOct 28 19:11
schestowitz>     these very devices. That further increases their potentialOct 28 19:11
schestowitz>     for harm, which is why now more than ever we must focusOct 28 19:11
schestowitz>     attention on it. We must not let secondary considerationsOct 28 19:11
schestowitz>     about Apple or Jobs distract us from this threat until weOct 28 19:11
schestowitz>     have thwarted it.Oct 28 19:11
schestowitzYes, he's rightOct 28 19:11
schestowitzAnd it's reasonable to say thisOct 28 19:11
MinceRsadly, the age of reason is overOct 28 19:11
MinceRpeople in general don't listen to reasonOct 28 19:12
schestowitzsome doOct 28 19:19
schestowitzbut they're in the minorityOct 28 19:19
schestowitzmost listen to Oprah, Bush, Obama, Glenn Beck, etc.Oct 28 19:19
schestowitzThey work 8 to 7 and then watch TV the rest of the dayOct 28 19:19
schestowitzMurdoch and other gangs have got them by the balls and by the neuronsOct 28 19:19
qu1j0t3yesOct 28 19:20
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