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schestowitzhttp://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/HP-will-announce-ARMbased-servers-next-month-reports-claim/?kc=rssOct 28 00:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: HP will announce ARM-based servers next month, reports claim - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 58.67 KBOct 28 00:02
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/84725048  http://identi.ca/notice/84725062Oct 28 00:02
TechrightsBot-tr@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Thursday, 27-Oct-11 22:59:00 UTC - Identi.ca: #Linux / #Ballnux in #Walmart http://ur1.ca/5j2inOct 28 00:02
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: Walmart sells Samsung 4G phone for $30 plus contract, $200 without - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 57.3 KBOct 28 00:03
TechrightsBot-tr@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Thursday, 27-Oct-11 23:00:10 UTC - Identi.ca: eWeek/Ziff Davis is dying (already Chapter 11) http://ur1.ca/5j2j0Oct 28 00:03
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: eWEEK goes 'all in' with digital - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 56.42 KBOct 28 00:03
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/684930Oct 28 00:07
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/84725167Oct 28 00:08
TechrightsBot-tr@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Thursday, 27-Oct-11 23:05:54 UTC - Identi.ca: #Oracle v. #Google - Email Battle Continues; Trial Delayed Until 2012 http://is.gd/1pCHg2 #android #linux - need Larry still impress Steve?Oct 28 00:08
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: Groklaw - Oracle v. Google - Email Battle Continues; Trial Delayed Until 2012 .::. Size~: 68.28 KBOct 28 00:08
schestowitzhttp://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Oracle-Google-trial-postponed-until-2012-1367597.html http://tech.slashdot.org/story/11/10/26/1549240/google-releases-geothermal-potential-map-of-the-usOct 28 00:22
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Oracle-Google trial postponed until 2012 - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 41.35 KBOct 28 00:22
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Google Releases Geothermal Potential Map of the US - Slashdot .::. Size~: 159.53 KBOct 28 00:22
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schestowitzhttp://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/LinuxCon-Europe-Linux-Foundation-announce-Long-Term-Support-Initiative-1366733.htmlOct 28 00:24
TechrightsBot-trTitle: LinuxCon Europe: Linux Foundation announce Long Term Support Initiative - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 41.97 KBOct 28 00:24
XFaCEschestowitz: Do you have a site that lists GNU+Linux laptop vendors?Oct 28 00:27
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XFaCEschestowitz: n/m, found somethingOct 28 00:40
XFaCEour article looks goodOct 28 00:40
schestowitzyeahOct 28 00:42
schestowitzlxer has a databaseOct 28 00:42
schestowitzbut probably out of date slighyluOct 28 00:42
schestowitz*slightlyOct 28 00:42
XFaCEschestowitz: what's "datamation"?  I looked up your name on wikipedia and found some articles there by youOct 28 00:44
Diablo-D3arent they a porn company?Oct 28 00:44
XFaCElolOct 28 00:45
XFaCEhttp://itmanagement.earthweb.com/osrc/article.php/3687616/Can-Linux-Adoption-Ever-be-Accurately-Gauged.htmOct 28 00:45
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Can Linux Adoption Ever be Accurately Gauged? - Datamation .::. Size~: 70.39 KBOct 28 00:45
Diablo-D3I almost misread that as GayedOct 28 00:46
schestowitzDiablo-D3: LOLOct 28 00:49
schestowitzXFaCE: you probably looked at EN wikipediaOct 28 00:49
schestowitzhttp://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Šestajovice_u_JaroměřeOct 28 00:49
TechrightsBot-trError processing the URL: HTTP/1.0 403 ForbiddenOct 28 00:49
XFaCEInterestingOct 28 00:50
XFaCEschestowitz: So are you German,Czech?  Or something else entirely?  I can never rememberOct 28 00:51
Diablo-D3schestowitz: Im trying to imagine Linux porn but its not workingOct 28 00:51
XFaCEhttp://translate.google.ca/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/%25C5%25A0estajovice_u_Jarom%25C4%259B%25C5%2599e&ei=Ju6pTrmOOuPz0gHX29iWDg&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CB8Q7gEwAA&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dhttp://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/%2525C5%2525A0estajovice_u_Jarom%2525C4%25259B%2525C5%252599e%26hl%3Den%26biw%3D1600%26bih%3D711%26prmd%3DimvnsOct 28 00:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Google Translate .::. Size~: 1.62 KBOct 28 00:51
XFaCEhttp://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C5%A0estajovice_u_Jarom%C4%9B%C5%99eOct 28 00:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Šestajovice u Jaroměře – Wikipedia .::. Size~: 38.13 KBOct 28 00:51
XFaCEhttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7b/%C5%A0estajovice_%28okres_N%C3%A1chod%29_znak.jpgOct 28 00:52
TechrightsBot-trNot a web page! Aborting image/jpeg typeOct 28 00:52
schestowitzDiablo-D3: define "working"Oct 28 00:52
Diablo-D3all I can think of is beautiful womenOct 28 00:52
schestowitzin LinuxOct 28 00:53
schestowitzBah!Oct 28 00:53
Diablo-D3now, if it was fbsd porn, I'd be setOct 28 00:53
Diablo-D3http://adterrasperaspera.com/images/sysadmin.jpgOct 28 00:54
TechrightsBot-trNot a web page! Aborting image/jpeg typeOct 28 00:54
XFaCEDiablo-D3: http://www.anvari.org/db/fun/Computer/FreeBSD_Fs_Linux.jpgOct 28 00:54
TechrightsBot-trError processing the URLOct 28 00:54
Diablo-D3XFaCE: my image beats yours.Oct 28 00:54
XFaCEDiablo-D3: Intellectual checkmateOct 28 00:54
XFaCEschestowitz: Seriously though, what was that site with your articles?Oct 28 00:54
schestowitzDiablo-D3: I trust that you're not gay, but if you keep talking about penises, I might have to rethink it.Oct 28 00:57
schestowitzDiablo-D3: these girls install freebsd on a really lousy rack and with old machinesOct 28 00:58
Diablo-D3schestowitz: I posted boobs!Oct 28 00:58
schestowitzThey still use PS/2Oct 28 00:58
Diablo-D3erm, royOct 28 00:58
XFaCEschestowitz: Not that there's anything wrong with thatOct 28 00:58
schestowitzI mean, servers today are USBOct 28 00:58
Diablo-D3most rackmounts HAVE ps/2Oct 28 00:58
schestowitzEven the one I have at homeOct 28 00:58
Diablo-D3for a reasonOct 28 00:58
schestowitzall USB portsOct 28 00:58
Diablo-D3for remot econtrolOct 28 00:58
Diablo-D3same with why brand new rackmounts newer than consumer shit have vgaOct 28 00:58
schestowitzthe ones I installed have USBOct 28 00:58
schestowitzFor keyboard tooOct 28 00:58
Diablo-D3because no one wants to install a new KVM because KVMs that do like 50 boxen cost $$$$$$Oct 28 00:59
schestowitzDiablo-D3: you mean iLO?Oct 28 00:59
Diablo-D3nope, KVMOct 28 00:59
Diablo-D3old fucking schoolOct 28 00:59
schestowitzwhat front end?Oct 28 00:59
Diablo-D3what front end?! Oct 28 00:59
schestowitzI soemtimes make a vitrual consoles to the VMOct 28 00:59
Diablo-D3a fucking keyboard and a monitor.Oct 28 00:59
schestowitzthen you can tightvnc into itOct 28 00:59
schestowitzDiablo-D3: what if you want to fix it remotely from the host?Oct 28 01:00
XFaCEDiablo-D3: And it will be running Debian because Debian isn't fucking UbuntuOct 28 01:00
schestowitzyou don't have to physically be thereOct 28 01:00
schestowitz!google hp iloOct 28 01:00
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - HP Integrated Lights-Out (iLO) Advanced - Overview | http://h18013.www1.hp.com/products/servers/management/remotemgmt.htmlOct 28 01:00
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - HP Integrated Lights-Out, featuring iLO Advanced - overview and ... | http://h18013.www1.hp.com/products/servers/management/iloadv3/index.htmlOct 28 01:00
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - HP Integrity Integrated Lights-Out (iLO) | http://h20341.www2.hp.com/integrity/w1/en/software/integrity-lights-out.html%3Fjumpid%3Dex_r11294_us/en/large/tsg/go_integrityiloOct 28 01:00
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - HP Integrated Lights-Out - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HP_Integrated_Lights-OutOct 28 01:00
Diablo-D3anyhow, yeah, a lot of companies are switching over to various LOM shitOct 28 01:00
XFaCEDiablo-D3: I need to turn that into a print adOct 28 01:00
Diablo-D3schestowitz: I know what ilo is, you twitOct 28 01:00
schestowitzlolOct 28 01:01
schestowitzyou get angryOct 28 01:01
schestowitzcause your racks are old generationOct 28 01:01
Diablo-D3they arent even my racksOct 28 01:01
Diablo-D3and who knows how old that photo isOct 28 01:01
schestowitztell me when you get new rubbish ^_^Oct 28 01:01
schestowitzDiablo-D3: they're not oldOct 28 01:01
schestowitzThey look around 22 :-)Oct 28 01:01
Diablo-D3too perky for 22.Oct 28 01:02
Diablo-D3badumtishOct 28 01:02
schestowitzwot?Oct 28 01:02
XFaCE!google badumtishOct 28 01:03
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Welcome to Instant Rimshot | http://instantrimshot.com/Oct 28 01:03
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Urban Dictionary: badum tish | http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php%3Fterm%3Dbadum%2520tishOct 28 01:03
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Ba dum tssshhh - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DbcYppAs6ZdIOct 28 01:03
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Badum tish | http://www.badum-tish.com/Oct 28 01:03
schestowitzMaube the ventillation in that datacentre was as rubbish as those machines..Oct 28 01:03
XFaCEI feel ashamed having google'd thatOct 28 01:03
schestowitzWhich would explain open blousesOct 28 01:03
Diablo-D3XFaCE: you should.Oct 28 01:03
XFaCEschestowitz: You're going to have a field explaining this in the IRC logs...Oct 28 01:04
schestowitzDiablo-D3: badaboom?Oct 28 01:04
Diablo-D3schestowitz: only on fridays.Oct 28 01:04
schestowitzXFaCE: hey, it's Diablo-D3 would brought those girls inOct 28 01:05
schestowitznot for the first time eitherOct 28 01:05
schestowitzHe did this about 2 years ago.. same girls... he must have it bookmarkedOct 28 01:05
Diablo-D3what, I did?Oct 28 01:06
XFaCEschestowitz: And to think, I made him Op one timeOct 28 01:06
Diablo-D3and no, thats my serverOct 28 01:06
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/84725809 http://identi.ca/notice/84725880Oct 28 01:06
TechrightsBot-tr@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Thursday, 27-Oct-11 23:46:51 UTC - Identi.ca: For Many, GNU/Linux "viable alternative to the other systems." http://is.gd/I3Pmti people ae getting it...Oct 28 01:06
XFaCEschestowitz: Though he did a good job.  A damn good job.Oct 28 01:06
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: Shepparton News .::. Size~: 54.58 KBOct 28 01:06
TechrightsBot-tr@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Thursday, 27-Oct-11 23:51:36 UTC - Identi.ca: How to Mask Your IP Address and Remain Anonymous with OpenVPN for Linux http://is.gd/oaycmp #linux privacyOct 28 01:06
Diablo-D3XFaCE: dude, I used to be an efnet operOct 28 01:06
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: How to Mask Your IP Address and Remain Anonymous with OpenVPN for Linux .::. Size~: 88.8 KBOct 28 01:06
schestowitzeffin opOct 28 01:06
XFaCEDiablo-D3: This isn't fucking efnetOct 28 01:06
schestowitzdribblo is having abother ego maniaOct 28 01:08
XFaCEschestowitz: thanks for http://www.businessinsider.com/how-to-mask-your-ip-address-and-remain-anonymous-with-openvpn-for-linux-2011-10Oct 28 01:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: How to Mask Your IP Address and Remain Anonymous with OpenVPN for Linux .::. Size~: 88.66 KBOct 28 01:08
schestowitzA no nymosOct 28 01:08
XFaCEschestowitz: Does that tutorial require a pay-for VPN service?Oct 28 01:09
schestowitzyesOct 28 01:10
schestowitzlike perfect-privacyOct 28 01:10
schestowitzone of us uses itOct 28 01:10
XFaCEschestowitz: These things sound good until they require moniesOct 28 01:11
*schestowitz reads FSF feedOct 28 01:11
schestowitzme sees Diablo-D3 cited heavily and RTd... http://identi.ca/notice/84832564Oct 28 01:11
TechrightsBot-tr@Bernard Zijlstra (bolonium)'s status on Thursday, 27-Oct-11 11:26:35 UTC - Identi.ca: RT @diablod3 Dennis Ritchie Day http://ur1.ca/5isf1 !fsf !linuxOct 28 01:11
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: Dennis Ritchie Day - O'Reilly Radar .::. Size~: 63.11 KBOct 28 01:11
XFaCEshit, diablo has an identi?  Sub time!!Oct 28 01:13
XFaCEDiablo-D3: Jeez. ur blog's soooo technicalOct 28 01:14
XFaCEDiablo-D3: Pretty much the anti-DaemonFC blogOct 28 01:15
XFaCEschestowitz: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qv1pvRDFFqsOct 28 01:19
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Steve Jobs Funniest Joke. Even Bill Gates Laughs!       - YouTube .::. Size~: 94.44 KBOct 28 01:19
XFaCEMay be more true than he thought...Oct 28 01:19
schestowitzwon't watchOct 28 01:20
schestowitz"Even Bill Gates Laughs!"Oct 28 01:20
schestowitzRemember those jester stories?Oct 28 01:20
schestowitzWhere some clown would try to amuse a filthy king?Oct 28 01:21
schestowitzTHat's how Gates isOct 28 01:21
schestowitzAnd they play with his PR machineOct 28 01:21
schestowitz"haha! Even bill laughs :-) :0) awwwwww....."Oct 28 01:21
schestowitz"Oct 28 01:22
schestowitzMozilla has always been Microsoft dependent because their revenue has mostly come through the Windows client. A Bing deal extends that dependence to other platforms as Microsoft prepares to cut them off Windows and gnu/linux use for browsing is surpassing desktop use.Oct 28 01:22
schestowitzhttp://www.crn.com/news/applications-os/231901699/analysis-with-antitrust-decree-gone-microsoft-again-tying-browser-tightly-to-windows.htmOct 28 01:22
schestowitzThe Bing deal is bad for two reasons. First is that it again legitimizes Microsoft and their second rate "decision engine". No one should do that, even if it earns them money, especially the "decision makers" likely to be using the platforms of interest to Microsoft. The second problem is that it brings Microsoft spying into cell phones and other growth areas and creates another tax on gnu/linux users. Free software people should just Oct 28 01:22
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Analysis: With Antitrust Decree Gone, Microsoft Again Tying Browser Tightly To Windows .::. Size~: 48.1 KBOct 28 01:22
schestowitzlet Microsoft die.Oct 28 01:22
schestowitz"Oct 28 01:22
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/682577Oct 28 01:22
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schestowitzMicrosoft is viciously attacking FOSS and Linux all the time. Those who don't see if are victims of collabrators of the spin.Oct 28 01:22
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/84726272Oct 28 01:26
TechrightsBot-tr@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Friday, 28-Oct-11 00:12:27 UTC - Identi.ca: Dennis Ritchie Day http://ur1.ca/5ijzh an influence to manyOct 28 01:26
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: Dennis Ritchie Day - O'Reilly Radar .::. Size~: 63.11 KBOct 28 01:26
XFaCEschestowitz: I'll summarize the joke here:Oct 28 01:26
XFaCEJobs: Apple is like boat with a hole in the bottom, filling with water.  My job is to point the boat in the right direction.Oct 28 01:27
schestowitzBank of America eviction notice - Occupy Seattle https://joindiaspora.com/posts/685176Oct 28 01:28
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XFaCEschestowitz: I agree, wasn't worth the bandwidth and time to watchOct 28 01:29
XFaCEin retrospectOct 28 01:29
XFaCEschestowitz: As an apology, watch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHmH1xQ2Pf4 insteadOct 28 01:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle: GENESIS - Land of Confusion (1986)       - YouTube .::. Size~: 94.57 KBOct 28 01:29
Diablo-D3XFaCE: /me shrugsOct 28 01:29
*schestowitz posts irc logsOct 28 01:30
XFaCEDiablo-D3: about which thing?Oct 28 01:33
Diablo-D3[08:13:43] <XFaCE> Diablo-D3: Jeez. ur blog's soooo technicalOct 28 01:34
Diablo-D3[08:14:43] <XFaCE> Diablo-D3: Pretty much the anti-DaemonFC blogOct 28 01:34
XFaCEDiablo-D3: I like your blogOct 28 01:34
Diablo-D3I dont write on it as often as I used toOct 28 01:38
XFaCEschestowitz:Oct 28 02:40
XFaCEA certain comment has presented a blog post subjectOct 28 02:40
XFaCELinux 3.0 and Microsoft contributionsOct 28 02:41
XFaCEhere's a link to an articleOct 28 02:41
XFaCEhttp://techie-buzz.com/foss/microsoft-linux-3-0.htmlOct 28 02:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Truth Behind Microsoft's Contributions To Linux 3.0 .::. Size~: 54.34 KBOct 28 02:41
XFaCEhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6toaQXwCdUOct 28 02:44
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Best Mac Spoof       - YouTube .::. Size~: 90.92 KBOct 28 02:44
XFaCEgnOct 28 04:25
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schestowitz> Software as a service is basically proprietary no matter how it isOct 28 08:43
schestowitz> done.  Academia is doing it to itself.  A bit of background is thatOct 28 08:43
schestowitz> the university had all but signed on the dotted line for M$ butOct 28 08:43
schestowitz> students and others were able to swing it over to Google at the lastOct 28 08:43
schestowitz> minute.  It not as good a service as the U was able to provide itselfOct 28 08:44
schestowitz> but better than M$ - for the time being.Oct 28 08:44
schestowitzUniversity resources should be enough to manage its own mail, with all the associated benefits.Oct 28 08:44
schestowitzhmmm... identica bot still now workingOct 28 08:44
schestowitzmaybe identica is doing some mainenance workOct 28 08:44
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schestowitzhttp://joindiaspora.com/posts/682577 "Well Doc, if you think MS has a vicious attack on FOSS (I am not fighting the fact), what about Apple and the walled garden they are building for all of their devices, including their future computers? The biggest fight that FOSS has against MS is the software support from other venders. If you give me fully functional Solidworks w/video drivers that will run on linux (Any Linux!) and I will be Oct 28 08:47
schestowitzright there. Yes there are other 3d cad packages out there and I have tried most of them. They don't come close. Wine/Crossover, not an option, it' not functional. And this is only 1 program. "Oct 28 08:47
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schestowitz'Oct 28 08:48
schestowitzApple is a viscous enemy of free software. Eric Raymond has an excellent write up about that. RMS said it in fewer words.Oct 28 08:48
schestowitz"What’s really troubling is that Jobs made the walled garden seem cool. He created a huge following that is not merely resigned to having their choices limited, but willing to praise the prison bars because they have pretty window treatments." http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=3790Oct 28 08:48
schestowitzIf you must use Solid Works, you are probably stuck running Windows but you don't have to surrender all of your software freedom. Keep the niche box for the few remaining niche applications, free software is better at everything else and should be the focus of your computing future. Here's how I deal with the problem of vendor supplied software for work:Oct 28 08:48
schestowitztsclient, it works like Windows because it is the vendor box. If the vendor has to keep it working, export the screen so you don't have to get out of your chair to use it. Microsoft's pathetic single screen interface fits well in an unused virtual screen. E16's ability to pan over many virtual screens liberates you from monitor size restrictions.Oct 28 08:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Armed and Dangerous  » Blog Archive   » On Steve Jobs’s passing .::. Size~: 339.17 KBOct 28 08:48
schestowitzhttp://173.17.111.185/photo_album/chron/2010/2010_05_21-uospc_desk/Oct 28 08:48
schestowitzVirtual Box. Install that pesky software to a virtual machine and never worry about hardware specific problems and crashed machines again. This is, by far, the easiest way to run Windows.Oct 28 08:48
schestowitzhttp://173.17.111.185/photo_album/chron/2011/2011_07_14-kde3_vm_integration/Oct 28 08:48
schestowitzThe earlier the version of Windows XP you can get, the better. Later versions are bloated and update themselves without permission.Oct 28 08:48
schestowitzBoth tsclient and Virtual Box do accelerated video.Oct 28 08:48
schestowitzSubjugate your non free software rather than the other way around. Quarantine it and minimize it's use rather instead of letting it drag you around. Happy hacking.Oct 28 08:48
schestowitz'Oct 28 08:48
schestowitz"Oct 28 08:48
schestowitzPlenty of good Windows bondage screen shots here:Oct 28 08:48
schestowitzhttp://173.17.111.185/photo_album/chron/2010/2010_12_30-x60_new_laptop/Oct 28 08:48
schestowitz"Oct 28 08:48
schestowitzhttp://joindiaspora.com/posts/684783Oct 28 08:49
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schestowitz"To post an image you type an exclamation mark,then the alt text in square brackets, then the url in normal brackets. No spaces between any of the characters (except inside the alt text). There is no [IMG] tag that I know of..."Oct 28 08:49
schestowitzJust tried to highlight the fact that it links to an image.Oct 28 08:50
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DaemonFChttp://apple.slashdot.org/story/11/10/28/0115247/apples-lossless-audio-codec-alac-now-open-sourceOct 28 08:57
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Apple's Lossless Audio Codec (ALAC) Now Open Source - Slashdot .::. Size~: 142.58 KBOct 28 08:57
DaemonFCafter it had been reverse engineered for some timeOct 28 08:57
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MinceRand what of the patents?Oct 28 09:14
schestowitzhmm... I wonder if idendica just burned some API or something...Oct 28 09:14
schestowitzIt does not communicate with some applications. Maybe it's temporary, I hope..Oct 28 09:14
DaemonFCMinceR: it includes a patent grantOct 28 09:18
MinceRgoodOct 28 09:20
DaemonFCthe only thing the open source reverse engineered library couldn't handle was more than 2 channelsOct 28 09:20
MinceRhow does it compare to FLAC?Oct 28 09:21
MinceRgeekingsOct 28 09:21
DaemonFCit generates larger files and only works on Apple hardware unless you're using RockboxOct 28 09:22
DaemonFCthere's no good reason to use it unless you found some files in ALAC and want to transcode to FLACOct 28 09:22
MinceRicOct 28 09:23
DaemonFCMicrosoft has Windows Media LosslessOct 28 09:28
DaemonFCthe files tend to be much larger than FLAC and only play on Windows and ZuneOct 28 09:28
DaemonFChttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPJtyCrfLB4Oct 28 09:42
TechrightsBot-trTitle: A whole new way to read on the Web       - YouTube .::. Size~: 94.37 KBOct 28 09:42
DaemonFCMinceR: Opera pages demoOct 28 09:42
schestowitzchoqok can't get to identica eitherOct 28 09:59
schestowitzI think they broke their whole APIOct 28 09:59
schestowitzregardless of IP, I tried manyOct 28 09:59
DaemonFCthere's this thing called TwitterOct 28 10:00
DaemonFC:DOct 28 10:00
DaemonFCI've heard people say they don't use identica because it forces you to license every one of your posts under a Creative Commons Attribution licenseOct 28 10:01
MinceR105248 < DaemonFC> MinceR: Opera pages demoOct 28 10:01
MinceRniceOct 28 10:01
iophkDaemonFC: I'm skeptical to the pages thingOct 28 10:01
iophkThere's already a pgup and pgdn button on  most keyboardsOct 28 10:02
DaemonFCtablets and phones don't have keyboardsOct 28 10:02
MinceRiophk: i think the point is that you can have columns that fit the screen and you can read one screenful of text (of multiple columns) and then proceed to the next screenOct 28 10:05
MinceRwhich would be really nice, imoOct 28 10:06
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/686352Oct 28 10:06
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iophkI hope that the new paging is not simply change for the sake of change.  Resizing/scrolling works very nicely on most screen sizes and aspect ratios.Oct 28 10:08
DaemonFCit's not an Opera-only thingOct 28 10:08
DaemonFCit could easily be implemented in other browsersOct 28 10:08
DaemonFCit's really a proposal for a standard for something that some sites do poorly with Javascript and a lot of man hoursOct 28 10:09
MinceRresizing results in either keeping text on a fraction of the screen or having a column that is uncomfortably wide to readOct 28 10:09
DaemonFCthis way you get better results with a few CSS linesOct 28 10:09
MinceRand yes, they say they're trying to make this part of the standardOct 28 10:09
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/486664Oct 28 10:11
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DaemonFChttp://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/28/us/politics/obama-bundlers-have-ties-to-lobbying.html?_r=1&hpOct 28 10:12
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DaemonFC"Because the bundlers are not registered as lobbyists with the Senate, the Obama campaign has managed to avoid running afoul of its self-imposed ban on taking money from lobbyists."Oct 28 10:12
DaemonFChow convenient Oct 28 10:12
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/84734767Oct 28 10:16
TechrightsBot-tr@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Friday, 28-Oct-11 09:14:03 UTC - Identi.ca: Spreading democracy (the truth behind Ed Bernay's marketing slogan) http://ur1.ca/5j8v2Oct 28 10:16
schestowitzDiablo-D3: Oct 28 10:16
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DaemonFC"Lobbyists have no place in my administration" (Unless they don't formally register as lobbyists or I give them a waiver)Oct 28 10:16
schestowitzDaemonFC I meanOct 28 10:16
DaemonFC-ObamaOct 28 10:16
schestowitz!google obama personally techrightsOct 28 10:16
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Microsoft Executives Go Personal, Pay Obama Instead of Their ... | http://techrights.org/2008/12/30/obama-takes-it-personally/Oct 28 10:16
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schestowitzsee [1]Oct 28 10:16
schestowitzhe jkust took the money directlyOct 28 10:16
schestowitzLots from insurance companies and banks tooOct 28 10:17
schestowitzNo ChangeOct 28 10:17
schestowitzBiden too is in bed with the cartelOct 28 10:17
schestowitzSo no need for their lobbyistsOct 28 10:17
schestowitzHe himself is like a lobbyistOct 28 10:17
schestowitzThe Democratic party is just about as crooked as the other one. What they need is what Lesig calls root-strikingOct 28 10:18
schestowitzStriking at the root cause -- campaigns' dependence on business sponsorshipsOct 28 10:18
schestowitzAnd for an election to be funded and run by the people for the peopleOct 28 10:18
schestowitzThe state does not fund the PR campaignOct 28 10:18
schestowitzThose who fund much of the election campaigns are Exxon, Goldman Sachs, Microsoft, Google, and so onOct 28 10:19
DaemonFCthere's an investigation going on in Indiana over forged signatures that got Obama and Clinton on the primary ballot in 2008Oct 28 10:22
DaemonFCby investigation I mean our Republican-led state government is taking cheap shotsOct 28 10:22
DaemonFCthe signatures in question are only a few and would not have made a difference in either one of them getting on the primary ballotOct 28 10:23
DaemonFChttp://www.usatoday.com/news/world/story/2011-10-27/chinese-child-death-questions-morals/50967924/1Oct 28 10:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Child's death prompts China to look at morals – USATODAY.com .::. Size~: 44.69 KBOct 28 10:26
DaemonFCTeenagers selling their kidneys for an ipad should have done thatOct 28 10:26
DaemonFChttp://content.usatoday.com/communities/sciencefair/post/2011/10/nasa-observing-big-asteroids-near-earth-passage/1Oct 28 10:29
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DaemonFCThe Nov. 8 asteroid poses no threat of hitting the planet. That's a good thing, as Purdue University's impact calculator suggests something that size landing in coastal waters would:Oct 28 10:29
DaemonFCtrigger a 2,000 megaton blastOct 28 10:29
DaemonFCleave behind a 1,500 foot deep crater on the ocean floor some 2.5 miles wideOct 28 10:29
DaemonFCtrigger a magnitude 6.5 earthquake releasing tsunami waves as much as 70 feet high.Oct 28 10:29
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DaemonFCthat blast would be equivalent to over 40% of the world's nuclear weapons detonatingOct 28 10:31
DaemonFCouchOct 28 10:31
DaemonFChttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada_and_weapons_of_mass_destructionOct 28 10:34
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*DaemonFC gigglesOct 28 10:34
MinceR'Lumia - spanish word for whore, prostitute. Also name of the first Nokia Windows Phone.'Oct 28 10:37
schestowitzhttp://www.muktware.com/blogs/2625Oct 28 10:39
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schestowitz:-)Oct 28 10:39
DaemonFChttp://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/28/nyregion/charges-in-lirr-disability-scheme.html?hpOct 28 10:39
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/84735019Oct 28 10:39
TechrightsBot-tr@Jose R Rodriguez (metztli)'s status on Friday, 28-Oct-11 09:29:08 UTC - Identi.ca: "…next time when someone [tweets about the speech Jobs gave to the college graduates],do read this story" http://is.gd/BvI6Nt ⚡@schestowitzOct 28 10:39
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/84735082Oct 28 10:39
TechrightsBot-tr@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Friday, 28-Oct-11 09:32:13 UTC - Identi.ca: Intel celeberates Linux, "20 years of Linux since its creation" http://ur1.ca/5j8zm #linuxOct 28 10:39
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schestowitzDaemonFC: NYT is brokenOct 28 10:40
schestowitzpaywalls everywhereOct 28 10:40
schestowitzWhere you least expectOct 28 10:40
schestowitz<They entice you to share linksOct 28 10:40
schestowitzBut then people whom you send it to meet a paygateOct 28 10:40
DaemonFCI can see this article fineOct 28 10:40
DaemonFCor do you mean you don't get a paywall if you use one of theirs?Oct 28 10:40
DaemonFCprivate insurance companies regularly hire private detectives to investigate disability fraudOct 28 10:42
DaemonFCsometimes they go a little bit too farOct 28 10:42
schestowitzyeahOct 28 10:43
schestowitzWell, but it's a real issueOct 28 10:43
schestowitzI know people who fake illnessOct 28 10:43
DaemonFCone woman in Canada got her disability payments stopped because she was smiling in a Facebook photoOct 28 10:43
schestowitzOne woman I know read a book about a conditionOct 28 10:43
schestowitzAnd then faked it to a GPOct 28 10:43
schestowitzSo she can get welfareOct 28 10:43
schestowitzI once stepped into acourtOct 28 10:43
schestowitzaround age 9Oct 28 10:44
schestowitzand the judge processed some case of an old ladyOct 28 10:44
schestowitzApparently paid for disabilityOct 28 10:44
schestowitzSomeone filmed her doing houseworkOct 28 10:44
schestowitzfrom afarOct 28 10:44
schestowitzand showed this in court to the judgeOct 28 10:44
schestowitzThis was interestingOct 28 10:44
schestowitzI haven't been to a court since... my dad took me there just to watch the placeOct 28 10:44
DaemonFCI'm not sure if they should take your disability payments away because you vacuumed your floor and did the dishesOct 28 10:45
schestowitzDaemonFC: those "private  invetigators" are essentially spiesOct 28 10:45
schestowitzBut they do need evidence on benefit fraudstersOct 28 10:45
DaemonFCI mean, you might be in terrible pain from that all the rest of the day but nobody else was going to do it for youOct 28 10:45
schestowitzwhat if yoy claim to be confined to a wheelchairOct 28 10:45
schestowitzOh, remember that famous video about a guy pretending he behaves like a 5 year oldOct 28 10:45
DaemonFCmy uncle is barely able to walk because a car hit himOct 28 10:45
schestowitzAnd then caught playing golf and acting all normal?Oct 28 10:46
DaemonFChe sits in his wheelchair and does dishesOct 28 10:46
DaemonFCdo you think they should take his benefits?Oct 28 10:46
schestowitzI think it was you who posted a link to a video about itOct 28 10:46
schestowitzDaemonFC: depends on the circumstanceOct 28 10:46
schestowitzI think this old lady said she could be classified as disabledOct 28 10:46
DaemonFCsome asshole neighbor of his complained about him being able to walk a few feet to the bathroomOct 28 10:47
schestowitzAnd the footage showed her stretching to clean windows and such...Oct 28 10:47
DaemonFCsometimes he falls down and stays on the floor for hours until someone can help him upOct 28 10:47
DaemonFCbut she said she saw him walking to the bathroom one day and Social Security investigated him because of thatOct 28 10:47
schestowitzBut I was only in that hall for a few minutes... that was like 20 years ago... then we moved to another case (more boring, so I can't remember)Oct 28 10:47
schestowitzI was impressed by how quickly the typist could type at the timeOct 28 10:47
schestowitzDaemonFC: oh, it gets worseOct 28 10:48
schestowitzhe could die wiythout someone knowingOct 28 10:48
DaemonFCthere's cases where people claim they're disabled and go play tennis Oct 28 10:48
schestowitzUntil he rots and smellsOct 28 10:48
schestowitzSomeone I know died like thisOct 28 10:48
schestowitzThey found him by the smellOct 28 10:48
DaemonFCand there's cases where they are walking to the bathroom or doing dishes and should be left aloneOct 28 10:48
schestowitzAnd yesterday I heard a story from someone  (on phone) who had someone get a heart attacjkOct 28 10:48
schestowitzDue to stresssOct 28 10:48
schestowitzin the bathroomOct 28 10:49
DaemonFCschestowitz: My aunt lives with himOct 28 10:49
schestowitzByt he time they found him there it was too lateOct 28 10:49
schestowitzhe was only 45Oct 28 10:49
DaemonFCbut sometimes she's out for a few hoursOct 28 10:49
schestowitzheheOct 28 10:49
DaemonFCyou know it's not because he's faking it, it's because he's trying to be independent Oct 28 10:49
schestowitzyeah, I know..Oct 28 10:49
DaemonFCpeople with that kind of disability become depressed and try to do things for themselves they can't always doOct 28 10:50
schestowitzbut anyhoo, many people game this system,. so I'm all for invetigation that catches those who give a bad name to those who really are in a bad situationOct 28 10:50
schestowitzMany people in their 50s are selfishOct 28 10:50
schestowitzAll they think is, how can I live another 30 years in a cushy way without a jobOct 28 10:50
DaemonFCright, they get this "I've worked for so many years, they owe me something"Oct 28 10:51
schestowitzAnd they stop caring about everything elseOct 28 10:51
schestowitzThere are loads of these now... the children of baby boomersOct 28 10:51
DaemonFCI told my dad if I was him I'd just go on pension and Social Security at age 62Oct 28 10:51
schestowitzDaemonFC: and here's the thingOct 28 10:51
DaemonFChe's eligible toOct 28 10:51
schestowitzThey don't care what the generation below them will need to tolerate to support these parasitesOct 28 10:52
DaemonFChe's got several college degrees and decades of experience in most of themOct 28 10:52
schestowitzThey just don't careOct 28 10:52
DaemonFCand having trouble finding steady workOct 28 10:52
schestowitzif a young person lives ina tent, they don't careOct 28 10:52
schestowitzThey need their cushy life style, they think they deserve this Oct 28 10:52
DaemonFCI told him he should just retire in a couple years and live out the rest of his life without worrying about this crapOct 28 10:52
schestowitzAnd the economic collapse is supposed to have all the burden put on the youjgn peoople even though bankers who caused it are just near rritrmentOct 28 10:52
schestowitzi,.e. same generation as the spoiled oneOct 28 10:53
DaemonFChe's one of those guys that spends his whole life making other people extremely richOct 28 10:53
DaemonFCjust to be disposed ofOct 28 10:53
schestowitzhmmm...Oct 28 10:53
schestowitzisn''t that what /most/ companies do?Oct 28 10:54
schestowitzluckily the ones I work for are not like thatOct 28 10:54
schestowitzAlthough half an hour ago I got a call from one that wants me to perhaps join their Linux team, and this one is about using one's capacity to increase the wealth of the managementOct 28 10:54
schestowitzI heard it's worth like 150 million pounds, with about 120 staff onlyOct 28 10:55
schestowitzysterday I got paid 110 pounds to work on a project that took me one afternoon+evening :-)Oct 28 10:56
DaemonFCmy dad has 9 patents in his name iircOct 28 10:56
schestowitzpatents are junkOct 28 10:56
schestowitzBut...Oct 28 10:56
DaemonFCbut they were done on company time so they're all assigned to ThomsonOct 28 10:56
schestowitzCompanies like to use them for leverageOct 28 10:56
schestowitzIs Thompson working with ReutersOct 28 10:56
DaemonFCthey're not software relatedOct 28 10:56
schestowitzI think there are several of themOct 28 10:56
DaemonFCthey're related to television hardware componentsOct 28 10:57
schestowitzRCA was acquired, no?Oct 28 10:57
schestowitzI once bought an RCA tuenr in Miami..Oct 28 10:57
DaemonFCat least a few of which no longer apply to TVs due to them being LCD/LED nowOct 28 10:57
schestowitzSo it was still around not too long agoOct 28 10:57
schestowitzDaemonFC: here's a flying pigOct 28 10:57
schestowitzTV "Made in USA"Oct 28 10:57
DaemonFCschestowitz: RCA was bought by ThomsonOct 28 10:57
schestowitzI saw some Dell monitors that say "Mad in Mexico"Oct 28 10:58
schestowitzNot Asia at least..Oct 28 10:58
schestowitz*MadeOct 28 10:58
DaemonFCyeah, Thomson made everything in Mexico for a whileOct 28 10:58
schestowitzNot madOct 28 10:58
schestowitzfunny typoOct 28 10:58
DaemonFCthey brought my dad back as a "contractor"Oct 28 10:58
DaemonFChe lived in Mexico for a couple yearsOct 28 10:58
schestowitzmeans no assurance of permanent employment?\Oct 28 10:58
schestowitzso no benefits either?Oct 28 10:58
schestowitzLike vacations, assurance of work, work security, etc.Oct 28 10:58
schestowitztemping is good for companies HROct 28 10:59
DaemonFChis contract stated he got his pay and health insurance and work guaranteed for the time indicatedOct 28 10:59
DaemonFCbut nothing past thatOct 28 10:59
schestowitzThese days many contracts are like this... or more than before, I thinkOct 28 10:59
DaemonFChe was telling me all about the Walmart in Mexicali :POct 28 11:00
DaemonFCit just kind of struck him as amusingOct 28 11:00
schestowitzBack in the days, told me a friend in his 60s, you would expect to work for same large company for decadesOct 28 11:00
schestowitzless volatileOct 28 11:00
DaemonFCthe pharmacy sells you whatever you want with no prescriptionOct 28 11:00
schestowitzdrugstoreOct 28 11:00
DaemonFCand the alcohol is not on the shelf, you take a card and give it to a manager who goes into a security room and gets it for youOct 28 11:00
schestowitzwitout the milkOct 28 11:00
schestowitzor the breadOct 28 11:00
schestowitzactually, some sell candy nowOct 28 11:00
schestowitzand some snacksOct 28 11:00
schestowitzBoots for exampleOct 28 11:01
schestowitzThey even sell elctronics and beauty productsOct 28 11:01
schestowitzSandwichesOct 28 11:01
DaemonFChe said a good bottle of liquor could be several weeks wages for a lot of MexicansOct 28 11:01
DaemonFCso they locked it all up in a security roomOct 28 11:01
schestowitzor they could do drugsOct 28 11:01
schestowitzor grow itOct 28 11:01
schestowitzAnd then you accuse Mexico or drug abusesOct 28 11:01
schestowitzWhen you price alcohol out of rachOct 28 11:02
schestowitzso-called war on drugsOct 28 11:02
schestowitzwhere it's all about one drug competiting with anorherOct 28 11:02
schestowitzAlcohol made a legal oneOct 28 11:02
schestowitzafter being banned beforeOct 28 11:02
schestowitzWhich was a failed moveOct 28 11:02
schestowitzCCause it didn't stop people drinking anywayOct 28 11:02
DaemonFCyeah, prohibitionOct 28 11:02
DaemonFC= organized crimeOct 28 11:02
DaemonFCgangstersOct 28 11:02
schestowitzBesdies, they could brew their own (and get poisoning)Oct 28 11:02
DaemonFCviolenceOct 28 11:02
DaemonFCturf warsOct 28 11:02
schestowitzWe do need more warsOct 28 11:03
schestowitzOn cancer...Oct 28 11:03
DaemonFCand contaminated productOct 28 11:03
DaemonFClots of people died from contaminated liquorOct 28 11:03
schestowitzAllocate funds wasted on policing drugsOct 28 11:03
DaemonFCduring US prohibitionOct 28 11:03
schestowitzGive these to scientistsOct 28 11:03
schestowitzSame for car accidentsOct 28 11:03
schestowitzMake better roadsOct 28 11:03
DaemonFClots of people die from contaminated drugs that are laced with something elseOct 28 11:03
schestowitzBeter facilities on the roadOct 28 11:03
schestowitzbridgesOct 28 11:03
schestowitzRather than zebra crossingsOct 28 11:03
DaemonFCprohibitions do more harm than goodOct 28 11:04
schestowitzAll of those things save many livesOct 28 11:04
schestowitzAnd they provide jobsOct 28 11:04
schestowitzLike building bridges over roadsOct 28 11:04
DaemonFCpeople find a way to get it anyway, the product is more dangerous, and it gives rise to gangsters and organized criminalsOct 28 11:04
schestowitzIt's all pretty trivislOct 28 11:04
schestowitzif you want to save lives, you don't need to ship tanks abroadOct 28 11:04
schestowitzSave lives and improve infrstructture at homeOct 28 11:04
schestowitzimprove healthcareOct 28 11:04
schestowitzsave 40k a yearOct 28 11:04
schestowitzHelp people sleep better at nightOct 28 11:05
schestowitzLess debtOct 28 11:05
schestowitzYour country is all warpedOct 28 11:05
schestowitzMilitary contractors and medicartelOct 28 11:05
schestowitzprisons as a business...Oct 28 11:05
schestowitzWhere each additional crime = more businessOct 28 11:05
schestowitzrather than serving the goal of reducing people in jailOct 28 11:05
DaemonFCright, so the for profit prisons lobby for more thigns to be illegalOct 28 11:06
schestowitzIn the US, I reckon it's more like this:Oct 28 11:06
DaemonFCand harsher penalties all aroundOct 28 11:06
schestowitzyay! We locked up more peopl! successOct 28 11:06
schestowitzless crime, more inmates... SUCCESS!Oct 28 11:06
DaemonFCa lot of the increase in crime is just due to there being more things defined as crimeOct 28 11:06
schestowitzRather than build friggin schools rather than penal buildingsOct 28 11:06
azalynthe 'war on drugs' is all about class. the high class want to shape society in their own image, and they consider anyone who doesn't fit their aristocratic ideals garbage.Oct 28 11:06
schestowitzyeahOct 28 11:07
schestowitzThis is why rich people have their own drugs glorifiedOct 28 11:07
schestowitzChampage is a drugOct 28 11:07
schestowitzPot is a drugOct 28 11:07
schestowitzPot causes less harm to one's bodyOct 28 11:07
schestowitzAnd it is also less addictive/less prone to dependenceOct 28 11:07
schestowitzBut it's the rich person's drug, so we need to envy those who take this drugOct 28 11:07
schestowitzAnd daemonise those who carbonate cheap wineOct 28 11:08
azalynpot probably does more good than harm. although to be safe you should use a vaporizer. the real harm comes from the smoke when it's burned.Oct 28 11:08
schestowitzOr ciderOct 28 11:08
azalynas opposed to vaporized.Oct 28 11:08
schestowitz"poor man's drug"Oct 28 11:08
schestowitzOne associared with the homeless, the other with a dummy in a suit"Oct 28 11:08
schestowitzazalyn: I never did illegal drugs, but...Oct 28 11:08
schestowitzre,member pot can be turned into cookiesOct 28 11:08
schestowitzThey don't have to make people inhale itOct 28 11:09
schestowitzThw arguments against it are that it leads to other drugs (gateway drugs)Oct 28 11:09
azalyni mean has anyone ever heard of a violent pothead? alcohol leads to violence.Oct 28 11:09
DaemonFCmalt liquorOct 28 11:09
DaemonFCheheOct 28 11:09
azalynpot just makes you a hippieOct 28 11:09
schestowitzSometimes when we drive here we see drivers who have a joint while drivingOct 28 11:09
azalynand hungryOct 28 11:09
azalynvery very hungryOct 28 11:09
schestowitzYet they cannot detect that with breathalisersOct 28 11:09
DaemonFCazalyn: Hey buddy! "Yeah?" HEY YOU!" "Yeah!!!" "Hi!"Oct 28 11:09
DaemonFC-potheadOct 28 11:09
DaemonFC(Bill Hicks skit)Oct 28 11:10
azalynthe biggest risk of pot, is that the nation ends up with a pizza shortage.Oct 28 11:10
schestowitzsounds more friendly than some people I knowOct 28 11:10
schestowitzI reckon I'd be less afraid of a guy in the street who smokes a joint than some angry crank who looks for someone to beat upOct 28 11:10
iophkhttps://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petition-tool/petition/legalize-and-regulate-marijuana-manner-similar-alcohol/y8l45gb1Oct 28 11:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Legalize and Regulate Marijuana in a Manner Similar to Alcohol. | Petition Tool Service Integration .::. Size~: 19.28 KBOct 28 11:11
schestowitzI remember about 10 years ago when pot was reclassified hereOct 28 11:11
schestowitzSo cops would not bother enforcing their laws really, so people smoke this stuff in the streetOct 28 11:11
schestowitzThey would go after growers rhoughOct 28 11:11
schestowitzImagine how 100 years ago people would possibly feel afraid to even suggest the idea of legalising alcohol in the USOct 28 11:12
schestowitzThe idea of questioning lawsOct 28 11:12
schestowitzI read that Carl Sagan was a famous pot smoker who anonymously wrote articles in favour of legalisingOct 28 11:12
schestowitzI never did pot, some people around me did... in fact, I think the past 3-4 presidents all smokes potOct 28 11:13
schestowitzSome did harder drugsOct 28 11:13
DaemonFCalcohol was legal in the US 100 years agoOct 28 11:14
DaemonFCin the absence of local laws prohibiting itOct 28 11:14
schestowitzthere was a short period of time around the start of the 20th century when it was made illegalOct 28 11:14
DaemonFCthere still are someOct 28 11:14
schestowitzAlso check out what Fiinland did about itOct 28 11:14
DaemonFChttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prohibition_in_the_United_StatesOct 28 11:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Prohibition in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 247.75 KBOct 28 11:15
schestowitzIf people understood the history of drug bans, it would add perspectiveOct 28 11:15
schestowitzThe media propaganda obscures thisOct 28 11:15
schestowitzIt almost crimilises the idea of suggesting that pot gets decriminalisedOct 28 11:15
azalynweed has incredible medical properties.Oct 28 11:15
schestowitzWhich is a self-harbouring type of thingOct 28 11:16
DaemonFCAt the end of Prohibition, some supporters openly admitted its failure. A quote from a letter, written in 1932 by wealthy industrialist and New York city resident John D. Rockefeller, Jr., states:Oct 28 11:16
DaemonFC"When Prohibition was introduced, I hoped that it would be widely supported by public opinion and the day would soon come when the evil effects of alcohol would be recognized. I have slowly and reluctantly come to believe that this has not been the result. Instead, drinking has generally increased; the speakeasy has replaced the saloon; a vast army of lawbreakers has appeared; many of our best citizens have openly ignored Prohibition; respect for Oct 28 11:16
DaemonFCthe law has been greatly lessened; and crime has increased to a level never seen before."[42]Oct 28 11:16
schestowitzWe made it illegal, then we make it illegal to suggest reveral of the lawOct 28 11:16
azalynand the sister plant, hemp, which is also banned.. has an infinite number of uses, and could save the economy if legalized.Oct 28 11:16
azalynyou can make ethanol with hemp.. paper.. clothing.. carbon fiber panels..Oct 28 11:16
azalynconcrete alternatives that are carbon neutral.Oct 28 11:17
DaemonFCyou can make ethanol by fermenting almost any plant matterOct 28 11:17
schestowitzDaemonFC: the same applies for the copyright cartel now,.Oct 28 11:17
DaemonFCthe questiuon is will you want to drink the productOct 28 11:17
DaemonFC:)Oct 28 11:17
azalynand you need little to no pesticides to grow it.Oct 28 11:17
schestowitz" respect for  the law has been greatly lessened; and crime has increased to a level never seen before."Oct 28 11:17
iophkhttp://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2011/10/dell-canonical-to-sell-ubuntu-pcs-at-retail-locations-in-china.arsOct 28 11:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Dell, Canonical to sell Ubuntu PCs at retail locations in China .::. Size~: 32.9 KBOct 28 11:17
azalynand it grows like a weed. (which is why they call it weed)Oct 28 11:17
DaemonFCazalyn: I make my own beer in small batchesOct 28 11:18
azalynit'll grow practically anywhere.Oct 28 11:18
DaemonFCit's not difficultOct 28 11:18
DaemonFCit's not expensiveOct 28 11:18
DaemonFCand it's legal unless I make more than 50 gallons per year or try to sell itOct 28 11:18
DaemonFCI can give it away thoughOct 28 11:18
azalyni was thinking for fuel. not for drinking. :POct 28 11:19
azalynlong-term, EVs are so much better.Oct 28 11:19
azalynbut ethanol vehicles can be very useful too. since they're similar to current technology. so current factories could be reused.Oct 28 11:20
azalynalso, any gasoline car can be converted to use ethanol.Oct 28 11:20
schestowitz[BTW, for those wondering, the TRIdentica bot is not broken, the "Read" API for identica broke yesterday, affaecting alll users and applications]Oct 28 11:20
DaemonFCWinemaking during ProhibitionOct 28 11:20
DaemonFCThe Volstead Act specifically allowed individual farmers to make certain wines "on the legal fiction that it was a non-intoxicating fruit-juice for home consumption",[59] and many people did so. Enterprising grape farmers produced liquid and semi-solid grape concentrates, often called "wine bricks" or "wine blocks".[60] This demand led California grape growers to increase their land under cultivation by about 700% in the first five years of Oct 28 11:20
DaemonFCprohibition. The grape concentrate was sold with a warning: "After dissolving the brick in a gallon of water, do not place the liquid in a jug away in the cupboard for twenty days, because then it would turn into wine."[12] One grape block producer sold nine varieties: Port, Virginia Dare, Muscatel, Angelica, Tokay, Sauterne, Riesling, Claret and Burgundy.Oct 28 11:20
DaemonFClolOct 28 11:20
azalyni read about the prohibition just the other day.Oct 28 11:20
azalynit's funny. if we decriminalized drug use, and regulated it..Oct 28 11:21
azalynwe could eliminate organized crimeOct 28 11:21
schestowitzI reckon many people inc. politicians would start having pot in one form or another if it was legalised worldwide and didn't get stereotypedOct 28 11:21
azalynstigmatized you mean.Oct 28 11:22
schestowitzThen:Oct 28 11:22
schestowitzfill up missing slotsOct 28 11:22
schestowitzvacant jail cellsOct 28 11:22
schestowitzFor crimes of greed and deceptionOct 28 11:22
schestowitzLike selling "bad loans"Oct 28 11:22
schestowitzI know some people who belong in jailOct 28 11:22
schestowitzWe can swap a pot smoker to a person who causes 100 families to lose their houseOct 28 11:22
schestowitzazalyn: that too, but I was thinking of the stereotypes tooOct 28 11:23
schestowitzto wit, you cannpt run for any public office while openly claiming to smoke potOct 28 11:23
schestowitzLikewise, some time in the past you couldn't do that while openly gayOct 28 11:23
azalynprisons are a business too. the companies that build prisons and get contracted to staff them and what not, are private companies.Oct 28 11:24
azalynwho benefit from increase in crime.Oct 28 11:24
azalyncapitalism is so deeply flawed and corrupt, that it's not even funny.Oct 28 11:24
schestowitzThe alcohol industry lobbies for criminalisation of "drugs"Oct 28 11:24
schestowitzNot seeing itself as a drug dealerOct 28 11:24
schestowitzWhich it actually isOct 28 11:24
schestowitzNo limitation on how much alcohol one can buyOct 28 11:24
schestowitzWe all know what can happen with aexcessive alcohol "use"...Oct 28 11:25
schestowitzThey like using the word "consumption"Oct 28 11:25
schestowitzIf it's legalOct 28 11:25
schestowitzOtherwise they use other termsOct 28 11:25
schestowitzAnd don't call alcohol a "drug" :-)Oct 28 11:26
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/84736040Oct 28 11:27
TechrightsBot-tr@satipera (satipera)'s status on Friday, 28-Oct-11 10:24:27 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Who is this Michael bloke who has been giving you a hard time for quite a while now?Oct 28 11:27
schestowitzLOLOct 28 11:27
schestowitzFeeding the trollsOct 28 11:28
azalynwhat's interesting is the USA has the ATF which deals with alcohol (amongst other things like firearms and tobacco), and the DEA which deals with drugs.Oct 28 11:28
azalynwhen both alcohol and tobbaco are essentially kinds of drugs.Oct 28 11:28
schestowitzDaemonFC is addicted to gunsOct 28 11:29
schestowitzHe collects firearmsOct 28 11:29
iophkhttp://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/07/110720210702.htmOct 28 11:30
TechrightsBot-trTitle: E-cigarette or drug delivery device? Questions about safety, usage and future implications of new nicotine delivery products .::. Size~: 60.89 KBOct 28 11:30
azalynfrom what i know of e-cigs. they're supposed to be safer because of the fact that you're not burning it.Oct 28 11:36
azalynit's a bit like a vaporizerOct 28 11:36
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/686564 "That's the way to kill your target, haha, I like that. Why have I not seen this locally in the #Philippines and in #Hollywood?? :p " "I think I saw it before... from that famous expensive Indian film."Oct 28 11:38
TechrightsBot-tr@: Oct 28 11:38
schestowitzazalyn: seems like treating the symptoms, stillOct 28 11:38
schestowitzI don't think many people need drugs at allOct 28 11:39
schestowitzI only drink once in a few weeks, some drink once in a few days to suppress pressured in a dysfunctional systemOct 28 11:39
schestowitzOne where people are, despite advances in technology, force to work more hours for less pay and less leisureOct 28 11:39
schestowitzAnd they are learned to judge themselves based on what they have and others have... part of the psush for extreme consumerism that always strives to make people feel empty up there and insideOct 28 11:40
schestowitzTe body has its own drugs that it makes... like endorphines Oct 28 11:40
schestowitzPeople cheat their body's chemistry despite having no medical condition that inflicts deficienciesOct 28 11:41
schestowitzThe whole culture that cultivates drugs use (e.g. alcohol socially) is one that suppresses its weaknesses by medicating them awayOct 28 11:41
schestowitzOr when peop,e end up homeless and start drinking, then it associuates the drinking with the cause of homelessnessOct 28 11:42
schestowitzAnd when they resort to crime like shoplifting food, it locks them outOct 28 11:42
schestowitzThen it rejoices the marvels of the system, which locks up the "bad fruit", gives pain killers and drugs to the depresses, and finds some equilibrium this wayOct 28 11:43
schestowitzBut all the massive debt is amasses is striking back nowOct 28 11:43
schestowitzPeople start to riot in the states this monthOct 28 11:43
schestowitzhttp://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/817Oct 28 11:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Mark Shuttleworth  » Blog Archive   » Automated deployment of Ubuntu with Orchestra .::. Size~: 27.39 KBOct 28 11:53
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/84736658Oct 28 11:58
TechrightsBot-tr@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Friday, 28-Oct-11 10:54:28 UTC - Identi.ca: Orchestra Provides Automatic Deployment of Ubuntu http://is.gd/T2Dbec http://is.gd/Jzo8JA  #ubuntu #gnu #linuxOct 28 11:58
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DaemonFChttp://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTAwNzIOct 28 12:01
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schestowitzidentica is abuzz about their technical issuesOct 28 12:07
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/84736874Oct 28 12:07
TechrightsBot-tr@Luke Slater (reality)'s status on Friday, 28-Oct-11 11:06:18 UTC - Identi.ca: @evan @support what's with all this missing data? is it coming back? (I assume you know!?)Oct 28 12:07
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/84736771Oct 28 12:10
TechrightsBot-tr@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Friday, 28-Oct-11 11:00:54 UTC - Identi.ca: #Chakra GNU/Linux 2011.10.26 is Released http://ur1.ca/5j9q7Oct 28 12:10
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: Chakra GNU/Linux 2011.10.26 Has KDE SC 4.7.2 - Softpedia .::. Size~: 46.85 KBOct 28 12:10
DaemonFChmmm, I may go get some biscuits and gravy and coffeeOct 28 12:11
*DaemonFC suddenly has a craving for thatOct 28 12:11
DaemonFCschestowitz: I've been tempted to try ChakraOct 28 12:13
iophk1http://blog.canonical.com/2011/10/28/white-paper-secure-boot-impact-on-linux/Oct 28 12:13
iophk1http://ozlabs.org/docs/uefi-secure-boot-impact-on-linux.pdfOct 28 12:13
TechrightsBot-trTitle: White Paper: Secure Boot impact on Linux «  Canonical Blog .::. Size~: 22.82 KBOct 28 12:13
DaemonFCI'm sort of addicted to my PPAs thoughOct 28 12:13
TechrightsBot-trNot a web page! Aborting application/pdf typeOct 28 12:13
DaemonFCthat's probably the biggest spoiler of leaving *buntuOct 28 12:14
DaemonFCI noticed that the AppArmor profile for Chromium in Ubuntu prevents the version of Chromium in Ubuntu from startingOct 28 12:15
DaemonFCFAILOct 28 12:15
DaemonFChttp://news.softpedia.com/news/openSUSE-12-1-RC1-Is-Powered-by-Linux-Kernel-3-1-229846.shtmlOct 28 12:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: openSUSE 12.1 RC1 Is Powered by Linux Kernel 3.1 - Softpedia .::. Size~: 47.48 KBOct 28 12:17
DaemonFCDid they REALLY get Grub 2 and systemd working?Oct 28 12:17
DaemonFCby default?Oct 28 12:17
DaemonFCor is this another one of those "It's packaged if you dare test it" copouts?Oct 28 12:17
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DaemonFChttp://news.softpedia.com/news/Canonical-Sells-Ubuntu-Dells-in-China-230747.shtmlOct 28 12:18
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Canonical Sells Ubuntu Dells in China - Softpedia .::. Size~: 45 KBOct 28 12:18
DaemonFCno teens selling their kidneys so farOct 28 12:19
DaemonFChttp://i1-news.softpedia-static.com/images/extra/LINUX/large/opensuse121rc1-large_002.jpgOct 28 12:19
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DaemonFCdo you still get greeted by an EXE file running in Mono?Oct 28 12:19
DaemonFCor was that just their GNOME edition?Oct 28 12:19
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schestowitz"identi.ca has caused a lot of grief lately..."Oct 28 12:23
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/687061Oct 28 12:23
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schestowitzAgreed.Oct 28 12:23
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/84737007Oct 28 12:24
TechrightsBot-tr@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Friday, 28-Oct-11 11:12:08 UTC - Identi.ca: Just when I thought #identica was starting to get more predictable and consistent something in their API breaks... for a day so far.Oct 28 12:24
schestowitziophk: thanks for the link... http://identi.ca/notice/84737117Oct 28 12:24
TechrightsBot-tr@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Friday, 28-Oct-11 11:16:59 UTC - Identi.ca: Microsoft's Scam Leads to Action From GNU/Linux Vendors http://ur1.ca/5j9ixOct 28 12:24
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: White Paper: Secure Boot impact on Linux «  Canonical Blog .::. Size~: 22.82 KBOct 28 12:24
schestowitzanother win for Linux today.. http://identi.ca/notice/84737238Oct 28 12:24
TechrightsBot-tr@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Friday, 28-Oct-11 11:22:03 UTC - Identi.ca: Leading car maker may use #Linux to power main system http://ur1.ca/5j9w6Oct 28 12:24
DaemonFCI'd consider OpenSuse if they just weren't so badly behind on some thingsOct 28 12:24
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: Linuxcon: bmw might use linux in future cars- The Inquirer .::. Size~: 64.89 KBOct 28 12:24
DaemonFCiirc KDE is still the OpenSuse default, and it doesn't come with MonoOct 28 12:26
DaemonFCall of the Microsoft and Novell corporate stuff seems to affect GNOMEOct 28 12:27
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DaemonFChttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/10/28/donkey_defence/Oct 28 12:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Zimbabwean claims prostitute turned into donkey • The Register .::. Size~: 23.93 KBOct 28 12:29
schestowitzDaemonFC: yeahOct 28 12:29
schestowitz[about mono]Oct 28 12:29
MinceRwhat is bmw "leading", exactly?Oct 28 12:34
schestowitznot "the" leadingOct 28 12:36
schestowitzbut one of the lading in several areasOct 28 12:36
schestowitzhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMWOct 28 12:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BMW - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 298.25 KBOct 28 12:37
schestowitzFounded 1916Oct 28 12:37
schestowitzMaybe leadign Germany into Poland like WV :-)Oct 28 12:37
MinceRleading in endangering motorists worldwide with cars running winblowsOct 28 12:37
MinceRhttps://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/IDriveOct 28 12:37
TechrightsBot-trError processing the URL: HTTP/1.1 403 ForbiddenOct 28 12:37
schestowitznot all windowsOct 28 12:37
schestowitzbut BMW is a major client os BallnuxOct 28 12:37
schestowitzMS LinuxOct 28 12:37
schestowitzBecaise it's based in GermanyOct 28 12:37
schestowitz!google bmw novellOct 28 12:38
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Novell Supports Xen Virtualization at BMW Group | http://www.novell.com/news/press/2007/6/novell-supports-xen-virtualization-at-bmw-group.htmlOct 28 12:38
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Novell Supports Xen Virtualization at BMW Group : VMblog.com ... | http://vmblog.com/archive/2007/06/09/novell-supports-xen-virtualization-at-bmw-group.aspxOct 28 12:38
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - How BMW virtualised with SuSE Linux and Xen – blog.xen.org | http://blog.xen.org/index.php/2010/05/20/how-bmw-virtualised-with-suse-linux-and-xen/Oct 28 12:38
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Novell produces its 2002 BMW 7-Series with SLED 11 « Off The ... | http://offthebroiler.wordpress.com/2009/03/24/novell-produces-its-2002-bmw-7-series-with-sled-11/Oct 28 12:38
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/84737361 http://identi.ca/notice/84737398Oct 28 12:38
TechrightsBot-tr@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Friday, 28-Oct-11 11:27:24 UTC - Identi.ca: #GNOME 3.4 is Coming http://ur1.ca/5j9yb #gnu #linuxOct 28 12:38
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TechrightsBot-tr@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Friday, 28-Oct-11 11:28:46 UTC - Identi.ca: Is Open Source Innovative? http://ur1.ca/5j9yl #redmonk #researchOct 28 12:38
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schestowitziophk: Document Foundation Board 2011: Preliminary Results http://blog.documentfoundation.org/2011/10/20/document-foundation-board-2011-preliminary-results/Oct 28 12:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Document Foundation Board 2011: Preliminary Results « The Document Foundation Blog .::. Size~: 38.62 KBOct 28 12:59
schestowitz# Thorsten Behrens..Oct 28 12:59
schestowitz# Michael Meeks...Oct 28 12:59
iophkthxOct 28 13:00
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/84737919Oct 28 13:01
TechrightsBot-tr@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Friday, 28-Oct-11 11:54:09 UTC - Identi.ca: Franklin Center: Right-Wing Funds State News Source http://is.gd/Dzu2Ck do not blindly trust corporate pressOct 28 13:02
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/84738081Oct 28 13:02
TechrightsBot-tr@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Friday, 28-Oct-11 12:01:13 UTC - Identi.ca: Too much Novell/SUSE (Microsoft-funded) influence inside #LibreOffice http://is.gd/a74uOC #odfOct 28 13:02
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schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/mohanpram/status/129885691961294851?iid=am-156194753213198021370300258&nid=4+status_timestamp&uid=26603208Oct 28 13:07
TechrightsBot-tr@mohanpram: @schestowitz I haven't been able to use it via gwibber all day yesterday.Oct 28 13:07
schestowitzidentica is implodingOct 28 13:07
schestowitzand I heard bad rumoursOct 28 13:07
schestowitzI think g+ dpes the most damage to themOct 28 13:07
schestowitzDiaspora too seems to have attracted some dentersOct 28 13:07
schestowitzHuh? "please elaborate. iophk: "Oct 28 13:08
schestowitzhttp://joindiaspora.com/posts/687268Oct 28 13:08
schestowitzThat's from CharlesOct 28 13:08
schestowitzI think the link is self-explanatoryOct 28 13:08
TechrightsBot-tr@: Oct 28 13:09
schestowitzThe Mac cultiets are attacking RMS right now...Oct 28 13:14
schestowitzGruber and GangOct 28 13:14
schestowitzWhen in fact, if you read what RMS says, he is pretty reasonableOct 28 13:14
schestowitzRefusing to take hostel if he can get a couchOct 28 13:15
schestowitzflying couchOct 28 13:15
schestowitzasking for teaOct 28 13:15
schestowitzNot advertising for anyoneOct 28 13:15
schestowitzAnd people try to take it out of context in the sense that they take reasonable demands and add trollish remarks to it.Oct 28 13:15
schestowitzhttp://gizmodo.com/5853729/please-do-not-buy-richard-stallman-a-parrot-and-other-rulesOct 28 13:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Please Do Not Buy Richard Stallman a Parrot And Other Rules .::. Size~: 81.52 KBOct 28 13:15
schestowitzThat's one exampleOct 28 13:15
schestowitzSee how the cult works?Oct 28 13:15
schestowitzYou say the truth about JobsOct 28 13:15
schestowitzAnd then they attack your characterOct 28 13:16
schestowitzVery predictableOct 28 13:16
schestowitzAnd then they suggest that RMS has "issues", just because his principles in many ways make more social sense than others'Oct 28 13:16
schestowitz"Well I don't. Free elections. 2 founding members of TDF work for Suse. And the rest?" https://joindiaspora.com/posts/687268Oct 28 13:19
TechrightsBot-tr@: Oct 28 13:19
schestowitzIt's a tough situation, I won't throw a hissy over it.Oct 28 13:19
schestowitzhttp://hammeroftruth.com/2011/richard-stallman-will-anonymously-leggo-your-eggo/Oct 28 13:22
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Richard Stallman will anonymously leggo your eggo · Hammer of Truth .::. Size~: 28.81 KBOct 28 13:22
schestowitzThey make up stuff he didn't sayOct 28 13:23
schestowitzlike...Don't speak about breakfast with him...Oct 28 13:23
schestowitzHe never said this Oct 28 13:23
schestowitz“Many countries have a law that hotels must report all guests to the police. In most cases, this orwellian policy applies not only to foreigners like me, but to citizens as well! The citizens should be outraged by this, but often they are not.”Oct 28 13:23
schestowitzAnd he's rightOct 28 13:23
schestowitzBut they try to find ways around his wordsOct 28 13:23
schestowitzand funny photos to match the stigma they are pushingOct 28 13:23
schestowitzIt's like political smear campaigns, same strategyOct 28 13:23
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/84738298Oct 28 13:25
TechrightsBot-tr@Charles-H. Schulz (charlesschulz)'s status on Friday, 28-Oct-11 12:12:24 UTC - Identi.ca: Please elaborate. #Suse has always been a developer of #LibreOffice producing 25% of contribs. Are free elections part of #MSFT influence?Oct 28 13:25
schestowitzNovell employees had contractual obligations to Microsoft.Oct 28 13:25
schestowitz"So. Everybody at TDF is aware of Suse. We're also aware of MSFT & Suse terminating their agreement in the months to follow. But choosing between the Oracle non-way and the community way was clear to us. So yes there's Suse, and there's also Red Hat, Canonical, Debian... and more to come. Ultimately, what matters is that we have something that works, that's genuinely FOSS and open standards while making sure things are transparent and Oct 28 13:28
schestowitzeveryone is responsible for his/her actions."Oct 28 13:28
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/687268Oct 28 13:28
TechrightsBot-tr@: Oct 28 13:28
schestowitzSUSE renewed the dependence on Microsoft. Linux vendors are not an issue because it's not in their agenda to destroy Linux and FOSS.Oct 28 13:29
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/84738637Oct 28 13:33
TechrightsBot-tr@silner (silner)'s status on Friday, 28-Oct-11 12:30:58 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz What was the nature of the contractual obligations? cc @charlesschulzOct 28 13:33
schestowitzOOXML support (translators) initiallyOct 28 13:33
DaemonFCI have a solution for thatOct 28 13:34
DaemonFCdon't use themOct 28 13:34
DaemonFCthey're not a default Oct 28 13:35
DaemonFCthey're there for compatibilityOct 28 13:35
DaemonFCthey suck even in that roleOct 28 13:35
DaemonFCthe patches for "Excel compatibility" from Novell are actually useful with ODF spreadsheetsOct 28 13:35
DaemonFCthe million cell limit applies to ODF spreadsheets tooOct 28 13:36
DaemonFCthe increase in cell limit was made so you can open an xls(x) without it simply crashingOct 28 13:36
DaemonFCCalligra supports a million cells for the same reasonOct 28 13:36
DaemonFCand Gnumeric can support them tooOct 28 13:37
DaemonFCOOo still crashes if you open a spreadsheet with more than 512.000 cellsOct 28 13:37
DaemonFCbut really, who still uses that? :)Oct 28 13:37
DaemonFCRTF still more or less worksOct 28 13:38
schestowitzor who uses these spreadsheets?Oct 28 13:38
schestowitzFor massive data there are better toolsOct 28 13:38
DaemonFCif I can't find any other common ground with someone, I will use RTFOct 28 13:38
schestowitzlike mysql evenOct 28 13:38
schestowitzor the Big Data toolsOct 28 13:38
MinceRPostGreSQL, SQLiteOct 28 13:39
schestowitzAnd at half a million cells you're not talking about the average user, just enterprises Oct 28 13:39
schestowitzSpreadsheets are not databasesOct 28 13:39
schestowitzTo Stev ballmer, Escel is a diaryOct 28 13:39
schestowitzHe uses a spreadsheet as his diaryOct 28 13:39
DaemonFCI've never been fond of Excel or PowerpointOct 28 13:39
schestowitzAccording to an interview from ~4 years backOct 28 13:39
MinceRthat's because ballmer recognized correctly that outlook is unusable crapOct 28 13:39
DaemonFCI have used Microsoft Word thoughOct 28 13:39
schestowitzTake home message: Windows/Microsoft lack tools for calendaringOct 28 13:40
DaemonFCversions 95, 98, and 2000 iircOct 28 13:40
DaemonFCbut 95 was the only version I boughtOct 28 13:40
schestowitzSo even MSFT CEO needs to use some fisher price hack to make a 'solution'Oct 28 13:40
schestowitzI can show him my Palm OSOct 28 13:40
DaemonFC98 and 2000 were school computersOct 28 13:40
schestowitzDoes that better than some 40 KG "PC"Oct 28 13:40
MinceRthey had them on mobile, but i don't know what they did to thatOct 28 13:40
DaemonFCI used Star Office at homeOct 28 13:40
schestowitz[13:39] <MinceR> that's because ballmer recognized correctly that outlook is unusable crapOct 28 13:40
MinceR(not that a device that can't do alarms reliably is useful for PIM...)Oct 28 13:40
schestowitzhe's also dumbOct 28 13:41
schestowitzHe thinks he coaches a basketball teamOct 28 13:41
MinceRwho knows, maybe he doesOct 28 13:41
schestowitzAnd only ever works to make money, no matter the crime (he bribes lobbyists like Florian to whitwash that)Oct 28 13:41
MinceRthat would explain why their code is so crapOct 28 13:41
MinceR:>Oct 28 13:41
DaemonFCGnumeric is more like Excel than anything in any other free software office suite I've ever seenOct 28 13:41
MinceRnah, it doesn't have the bugs that yield completely wrong resultsOct 28 13:42
MinceRand it also lacks the ribbonOct 28 13:42
schestowitzit's not a bug, it's a feeechureOct 28 13:42
schestowitz!google microsoft word crashes featureOct 28 13:42
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Diagnose and repair crashing Office programs by using Office ... | http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/help/diagnose-and-repair-crashing-office-programs-by-using-office-diagnostics-HA001234076.aspxOct 28 13:42
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Word 2010 Freezes - Microsoft | http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/officevolact/thread/7c00370c-02d2-46e4-ad40-08c02dcf0f09/Oct 28 13:42
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Fixing Microsoft Word 2007 crashing feature — RuthEllison.com | http://www.ruthellison.com/2008/03/fixing-microsoft-word-2007-crashing-feature/Oct 28 13:42
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - What to do when Word crashes | http://www.gmayor.com/what_to_do_when_word_crashes.htmOct 28 13:42
MinceRfeatures! features! features!Oct 28 13:42
schestowitzhttp://www.computerworld.com.au/article/11550/microsoft_word_2007_crashes_feature_bug/Oct 28 13:43
schestowitzThank you, Word, for crashingOct 28 13:43
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft: Word 2007 crashes are a feature, not bug - Computerworld .::. Size~: 78.96 KBOct 28 13:43
schestowitzYou saved my dayOct 28 13:43
schestowitz[Before I clicked "Save"]Oct 28 13:43
DaemonFCI do agree with Richard Stallman on somethingOct 28 13:44
DaemonFCThe fact that milk and sugar can salvage almost any kind of teaOct 28 13:44
DaemonFC:)Oct 28 13:44
schestowitzBTW, yesterday I lost somes stuff I typed into rekonq cause this old version of it doesn't have undo stack for textareasOct 28 13:44
schestowitzit's a very old versionOct 28 13:44
schestowitzsome rough edges, but works with sites better than konq and also loads up fasterOct 28 13:44
DaemonFCschestowitz: I only have one problem with RekonqOct 28 13:45
DaemonFCand it's not even a Rekonq bugOct 28 13:45
MinceRDaemonFC: milk, to turn it into something other tha tea? :>Oct 28 13:45
MinceRs/tha/than/Oct 28 13:45
schestowitzDaemonFC: right about teaOct 28 13:45
DaemonFCit's FlashOct 28 13:45
schestowitzI like the tea for the milk that's in it...Oct 28 13:45
schestowitzBut sterilised milk sucks.. many put that in their tea and coffeeOct 28 13:45
schestowitzIt has lactoseOct 28 13:45
DaemonFCFlash sometimes crashes qtwebkit because it doesn't have certain plugin interfaces that Firefox and Chrome doOct 28 13:45
schestowitzDaemonFC: what did you think at all of RMS' 'demands'?Oct 28 13:46
abeNd-orgtried goats milk instead of cows milk?Oct 28 13:46
DaemonFCI think he's a bit oddOct 28 13:46
MinceRi thought lactose was a normal ingredient of milkOct 28 13:46
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schestowitzI read them and I don't get it... if put in the right tone (they try to make it sound different), I think he's quite all rightOct 28 13:46
DaemonFCabeNd-org: I've had goat's milk in tea beforeOct 28 13:46
MinceRthen again i only put milk in coffee and cocoa of all drinksOct 28 13:46
DaemonFCwith honeyOct 28 13:46
ziggyfishhi allOct 28 13:46
MinceRhayOct 28 13:47
abeNd-orgI used to live on a dairy farm, prefer goats milkOct 28 13:47
schestowitzabeNd-org: only in cheese formOct 28 13:47
schestowitzI thinkOct 28 13:47
schestowitzActually bothOct 28 13:47
ziggyfishso whats happening in the world of IT, been very busy with uni lately, so have had no time.Oct 28 13:47
schestowitzziggyfish: we were just talking about teaOct 28 13:47
schestowitzIt'sm tea timeOct 28 13:48
schestowitzsunny outside, I think I'l rush there to write someblog popsts. cya laterOct 28 13:48
ziggyfishwhat are we having for tea?Oct 28 13:48
abeNd-orgLA is having real fun with it's mail systemOct 28 13:48
DaemonFCoh, the Google Crapplets Oct 28 13:48
DaemonFCCloud Office nonsenseOct 28 13:48
abeNd-orgcloud offenseOct 28 13:49
DaemonFCGoogle Docs has many problems and only one real advantageOct 28 13:49
DaemonFCeasy collaborative editing Oct 28 13:49
ziggyfishhttp://www.computerworlduk.com/news/networking/3313861/australian-stock-exchange-network-falls-flat-on-big-bang-anniversary/ Oct 28 13:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Australian Stock Exchange network falls flat on Big Bang anniversary - ComputerworldUK.com .::. Size~: 102.96 KBOct 28 13:50
schestowitziophk: https://joindiaspora.com/posts/687268 "I agree with you on #Microsoft . But so does #Oracle. We are open to new contributors and we even welcome #IBM ... As for Suse, if you have a better idea to take their team and put them elsewhere, I'm listening..." http://twitter.com/silner/status/129901244889305089?iid=am-182297469113198058453852976&nid=4+status_timestamp&uid=26603208Oct 28 13:50
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DaemonFCI still think in many ways, traditional office suites and emailing documents back and forth is the superior systemOct 28 13:51
TechrightsBot-tr@silner: @schestowitz And some are neither. I don't hate Microsoft. I just distrust them. The same goes for Oracle and Apple (though I dislike ..Oct 28 13:51
*schestowitz still around for a while, passing posts to PDAOct 28 13:51
schestowitzziggyfish: does it run Windows?Oct 28 13:51
DaemonFCit doesn't let Google spy on your data and collaborate with government spooksOct 28 13:51
DaemonFCor leave it vulnerable to hackersOct 28 13:51
ziggyfishnot sureOct 28 13:51
schestowitzziggyfish: worth finding outOct 28 13:51
iophkDaemonFC: mail is not a good substitute for a file systemOct 28 13:51
schestowitzLondon has had not a word since moving to LinuxOct 28 13:51
schestowitzIt means it's working perfectlyOct 28 13:51
schestowitzIt used to make headlines every few moneht cause the win/.NET system crashesOct 28 13:52
DaemonFCor that people are silently cursing at it and working around it Oct 28 13:52
schestowitzAnd the managers (like Burse) fledOct 28 13:52
schestowitzFurseOct 28 13:52
DaemonFCa lot of users don't report bugs and just find cute little ways to not trigger them insteadOct 28 13:53
schestowitziophk: http://identi.ca/notice/84738798 http://identi.ca/notice/84738871 http://identi.ca/notice/84738872Oct 28 13:53
TechrightsBot-tr@Charles-H. Schulz (charlesschulz)'s status on Friday, 28-Oct-11 12:38:59 UTC - Identi.ca: that we are well aware of & you can take OOXML out of #LibreOffice we have a howto for that. Would #RedHat be with us if it was dangerous?Oct 28 13:53
TechrightsBot-tr@silner (silner)'s status on Friday, 28-Oct-11 12:43:58 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz And some are neither. I don't hate Microsoft. I just distrust them. The same goes for Oracle and Apple (though I dislike ..Oct 28 13:53
TechrightsBot-tr@silner (silner)'s status on Friday, 28-Oct-11 12:44:04 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz .. Apple elitism)Oct 28 13:53
DaemonFCI think this behavior is learned through encounters with websites that are indifferent to anyone not using Firefox or IEOct 28 13:55
DaemonFCor bad upstreams that leave annoying bugs open foreverOct 28 13:55
DaemonFClike UbuntuOct 28 13:55
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DaemonFCoh damnOct 28 13:58
DaemonFCwho looked in a mirror and said "bacon" three times?Oct 28 13:58
*DaemonFC wonders if jono is just a modified Elisa scriptOct 28 13:59
DaemonFCanswer question with questionOct 28 14:00
DaemonFChideOct 28 14:00
MinceRlolOct 28 14:00
DaemonFCrespond with something to confuse user and change the subjectOct 28 14:00
DaemonFCMinceR: How do you feel about lol?Oct 28 14:01
DaemonFCI think lol is awesomeOct 28 14:01
DaemonFC:)Oct 28 14:01
MinceRDaemonFC: ^DOct 28 14:01
DaemonFCit will be better when ayatana lol arrivesOct 28 14:01
DaemonFCwith new scrollbars and global menu supportOct 28 14:01
DaemonFCand lol indicatorOct 28 14:01
MinceRlolOct 28 14:01
DaemonFCto indicate incoming lolsOct 28 14:01
MinceRdon't forget client-side lolOct 28 14:01
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DaemonFClol with awesome client-side indicator scrollbar supportOct 28 14:02
ziggyfishschestowitz: http://www.computerworlduk.com/news/networking/3313861/australian-stock-exchange-network-falls-flat-on-big-bang-anniversary/Oct 28 14:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Australian Stock Exchange network falls flat on Big Bang anniversary - ComputerworldUK.com .::. Size~: 102.99 KBOct 28 14:02
ziggyfishIt is not known if NASDAQ’s Genium INET trading platform, which the ASX moved to last December, played any part in the problem, or whether it was other networking technology. Genium, which runs on Linux, using C++ , allows the ASX to provide sub-300 microsecond latency on its integrated equities and derivatives exchange.Oct 28 14:02
DaemonFCit's rockinOct 28 14:03
DaemonFC"NOTE for Vista/Windows 7 users: You may run into an issue with being unable to save your game. This is caused by the game not having rights to write to your program files folder. So you can run the game as admin, or install outside of the Program Files folder. "Oct 28 14:05
DaemonFC:)Oct 28 14:05
MinceRhow many years ago has winblows switched to nt (and multiuser)?Oct 28 14:07
MinceR:>Oct 28 14:07
MinceRseriously, is the home directory so difficult to find for certain programmers?Oct 28 14:07
ziggyfishMinceR: microsoft seems to copy some of Unix but not all, and wonder why it doesn't work.Oct 28 14:08
DaemonFCwhen you graft things on that weren't in the original design, they tend not to work wellOct 28 14:09
MinceRiirc unix too made the singleuser->multiuser switch but that was probably much earlier in its lifecycleOct 28 14:09
MinceRand had saner programmersOct 28 14:10
MinceRapp programmers, that isOct 28 14:10
DaemonFCthe last time UNIX was single user was in the early 1970sOct 28 14:14
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ziggyfishThe ASX has not given further details of the outage, which was solved this morning by its technology provider NASDAQ, but said in a statement that “a connectivity issue” had caused the problems. It promised “further updates” in the coming weeks.Oct 28 14:19
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DaemonFCSysinfo for 'ryan-MS-7501': Linux 3.1.0-2-generic running KDE Development Platform 4.7.2 (4.7.2), CPU: AMDPhenomIIX4945 at 800 MHz (5986 bogomips), HD: 35/923GB, RAM: 1138/7987MB, 165 proc's, 2.13min upOct 28 15:14
DaemonFC:)Oct 28 15:14
DaemonFChttp://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2119864/linux-31-amd-intel-nvidia-gpu-supportOct 28 15:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux 3.1 has better amd, intel and nvidia gpu support- The Inquirer .::. Size~: 66.04 KBOct 28 15:16
DaemonFCThe Inquirer is wrong againOct 28 15:16
DaemonFCthe last time Linux odd numbers were unstable development branches was 2.5Oct 28 15:16
amarsh04I did a git pull from github.com and have built a new kernel from it - about to load it on this machineOct 28 15:18
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schestowitz#Apple Lost Respect http://techrights.org/2011/10/28/losing-respect/ #android #swpatsOct 28 16:29
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DaemonFCGeolocation sucksOct 28 16:34
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iophkhttp://stallman.org/archives/2011-jul-oct.html#27_October_2011_%28Steve_Jobs%29Oct 28 16:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 2011: July - October Political Notes - Richard Stallman .::. Size~: 1094.79 KBOct 28 16:35
DaemonFChttp://img17.imageshack.us/img17/3293/snapshot16e.pngOct 28 16:41
TechrightsBot-trNot a web page! Aborting image/png typeOct 28 16:41
DaemonFCOpera supports WebGLOct 28 16:41
DaemonFCshame Firefox doesn'tOct 28 16:41
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schestowitz"(I haven't seen the link) → I'd rather speak of "*Free software*", but **yes, it is**. " http://joindiaspora.com/posts/687135Oct 28 16:48
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schestowitzDaemonFC: "I Love #Gnome 3 Its a great desktop " http://joindiaspora.com/posts/687124Oct 28 16:49
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DaemonFCit would be passable if it didn't have so many issues with most video driversOct 28 16:49
schestowitz"Appreciate the post, but your summary is a little misleading. When you say "main system," I think injection management, suspension adjustment and differential control. What they're actually talking about is in-car entertainment. How much do you want to bet they're talking about #Android?"Oct 28 16:49
schestowitzhttp://joindiaspora.com/posts/687098Oct 28 16:49
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DaemonFCeven with open source drivers it's not a great experience Oct 28 16:49
schestowitzIntel has had some projects for Linux in cars... some MeeGo based.Oct 28 16:50
DaemonFCmutter is a dogOct 28 16:50
DaemonFC:)Oct 28 16:50
MinceRimo gnome3 took the dumbing down to a point where there's no point in using it anymoreOct 28 16:50
DaemonFCCatalyst 11.10 releases on MondayOct 28 16:50
DaemonFCI'll have to try GNOME Shell with it againOct 28 16:50
DaemonFCMinceR: You haven't tried the shell extensionsOct 28 16:50
schestowitz"I hardly have to read that. Every week there's a new patent issue with Apple. It's anti-competitive. " http://joindiaspora.com/posts/688259Oct 28 16:50
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MinceRnoOct 28 16:51
DaemonFCthose make it much better than the default shellOct 28 16:51
schestowitzPatents are, by definition, government granted monopolies, which makes them anti-competitive.Oct 28 16:51
DaemonFCthey restore a lot of the features I like to have handy Oct 28 16:51
DaemonFCbut KDE makes them easier to configure/enable in the first placeOct 28 16:51
DaemonFCbut I don't think it's fair to come down so hard on the shell experience in GNOME without trying the extensionsOct 28 16:52
MinceRyou know a system was developed in the wrong direction when bringing back features the killed is itself a major featureOct 28 16:52
DaemonFCthe biggest reason I use KDE is because I like the window manager much better than metacity, mutter, or compizOct 28 16:52
MinceRdo the extensions let the user not suspend when he closes the lid of the laptop?Oct 28 16:52
DaemonFCand you can get any of those three depending on what shell you use with GNOMEOct 28 16:53
DaemonFCnot sure, haven't tried it on a laptopOct 28 16:53
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DaemonFCat least with the Phoronix benchmarks it shows that mutter has a pretty bad effect on overall system performanceOct 28 16:54
DaemonFCkwin and compiz have negligible overheadOct 28 16:54
DaemonFCbut mutter is so bad you can literally feel the differenceOct 28 16:54
DaemonFCof course that was GNOME shell 3.0, I'm not sure how much it has improved in 3.2Oct 28 16:55
DaemonFCthey claim the shell's performance has improved but I have not used that versionOct 28 16:55
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DaemonFCcompiz performance isn't so bad but it crashes a lot, especially after Ubuntu took it over and added tons of bugsOct 28 16:55
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DaemonFCschestowitz: the more I think about it, the more I'm certain Firefox With Bing is just a bluffOct 28 17:00
DaemonFCtheir contract with Google expires next month and they probably just want to be in a position to demand more moneyOct 28 17:00
iophkIt's not a credible bluff because going through with it would destroy Mozilla completelyOct 28 17:01
DaemonFCnot reallyOct 28 17:01
DaemonFCmost of their users are on Windows anywayOct 28 17:01
DaemonFCand they can play it off with "Switch it back to Google if you hate Bing"Oct 28 17:01
MinceRand from that point forward depend on the one company that wants them dead the most for funding?Oct 28 17:02
MinceRs/the m/them the m/Oct 28 17:02
DaemonFCmarriage of convenience Oct 28 17:02
DaemonFCMicrosoft has yet to get over 4% global search shareOct 28 17:03
MinceRwhat's in it for mozilla?Oct 28 17:03
DaemonFCI'm sure they'd love to have Firefox's users using BingOct 28 17:03
DaemonFCit would probably up Bing's share about 4-5 times overOct 28 17:03
DaemonFCmoneyOct 28 17:03
MinceRa bit more money on the short term, no money on the long termOct 28 17:03
DaemonFCbut like I said, they're trying to start a bid warOct 28 17:03
iophkLong term it would be ultimately foolish to depend financially on the one company that wants them dead.Oct 28 17:04
DaemonFCGoogle is a competitor tooOct 28 17:05
DaemonFCbecause of ChromeOct 28 17:05
iophkNot to the same extentOct 28 17:05
MinceRsearch is more important to google than the browserOct 28 17:05
iophkAnd not with the same history of behavior.Oct 28 17:05
iophkMinceR: yes, search is about everything for Google right nowOct 28 17:05
MinceRchrome aims for a different kind of use case, afaikOct 28 17:06
MinceR(at least that's what they said at the start)Oct 28 17:06
DaemonFCChrome exists because it's cheaper for Google to kill of Firefox with their own browserOct 28 17:07
iophkWhat's the official use-case for Chrome?Oct 28 17:07
DaemonFCplus they can gather whatever user information they like without any objectionsOct 28 17:07
DaemonFCChrome is more or less just a pile of open source componentsOct 28 17:08
DaemonFCmost of which aren't heavily contributed to by GoogleOct 28 17:08
DaemonFCso I'm sure it's relatively cheap for them to produceOct 28 17:08
MinceRiophk: a browser that stays out of the way, with minimal functionality (just "chrome")Oct 28 17:08
schestowitz[17:00] <DaemonFC> schestowitz: the more I think about it, the more I'm certain Firefox With Bing is just a bluffOct 28 17:14
schestowitzFunny, I was just writing about itOct 28 17:14
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/84742332  http://identi.ca/notice/84742859  http://identi.ca/notice/84743509  Now, on to Mozilla....Oct 28 17:16
TechrightsBot-tr@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Friday, 28-Oct-11 15:22:22 UTC - Identi.ca: #Apple Lost Respect http://ur1.ca/5jccu #android #swpatsOct 28 17:16
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TechrightsBot-tr@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Friday, 28-Oct-11 15:42:43 UTC - Identi.ca: #BlackDuck: Microsoft Windows Only No More http://ur1.ca/5jclf #microsoft #gplOct 28 17:16
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TechrightsBot-tr@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Friday, 28-Oct-11 16:14:11 UTC - Identi.ca: When Novell Staff Becomes Technology Writer http://ur1.ca/5jcxj #novell #microsoftOct 28 17:17
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schestowitz"true" https://joindiaspora.com/posts/688587Oct 28 17:36
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schestowitzMozilla Foundation Harder to Trust After #Microsoft Endorsement http://techrights.org/2011/10/28/firefox-and-bing/ #mozilla #bingOct 28 17:36
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DaemonFChttp://iewebgl.com/Oct 28 17:51
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DaemonFClooks like some Russian company has extended IE to be able to use WebGLOct 28 17:51
schestowitzI heard that in Russia, WebGL runs FirefoxOct 28 17:51
schestowitz[as a child process !]Oct 28 17:52
DaemonFCwith 40-50 plugins or running a second web browser inside IE (Chrome Frame), Microsoft users can experience the modern web just as it is presented in modern web browsers such as Firefox, Opera, and ChromeOct 28 17:53
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DaemonFCor they can just install Firefox, Opera, or Chrome and have done with itOct 28 17:54
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DaemonFChmmm, Chrome Frame now supports setting Chrome as Internet Explorer's default renderer on every siteOct 28 17:56
DaemonFClolOct 28 17:56
DaemonFCand installing it without administrator privileges Oct 28 17:56
schestowitzGrowing up [IMG] https://joindiaspora.com/posts/688221Oct 28 18:01
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schestowitzRed Hat Reaches New Highs (While Apple Falls Behind Exxon) http://is.gd/7BFb56Oct 28 18:02
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schestowitz#GCC 4.6.2 Compiler Released http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTAwNjc #gnu #programmingOct 28 18:04
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schestowitzIBM appoints new CEO, journos concentrate on the gender, not the qualities, thus reinforcing the same prejudices they think they removeOct 28 18:23
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schestowitzhttp://www.tacc.utexas.edu/news/feature-stories/2011/digitizing-the-pastOct 28 18:28
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schestowitzLinux it seems...Oct 28 18:28
schestowitzidentica is completely down nowOct 28 18:29
schestowitz"Any idea why Red Hat has become a hot commodity? " http://joindiaspora.com/posts/688724Oct 28 18:37
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schestowitzFinancial market depend on it and give it lucrative contracts.Oct 28 18:37
XFaCEschestowitz: good afternoonOct 28 18:39
XFaCEschestowitz: I remember reading Torvald's autobiography about how Red Hat was the slower of the two GNU/Linux companies that were introduced on the stock market at the time.  They have come a long way.Oct 28 18:40
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schestowitzI think they replace a lot of UNIX, stillOct 28 18:54
schestowitzi wall streetOct 28 18:54
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schestowitzNew #VeriFone Point of Sale Runs #Linux http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/Verifone-H5000/Oct 28 19:02
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schestowitz"Well, with future self-driving cars, maybe the main system (from an end user perspective) would be the for entertainment? ;) " http://joindiaspora.com/posts/687098Oct 28 19:39
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schestowitzthe rest is embeddedOct 28 19:39
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schestowitzIn Obamaspeak, "remove him from the field" means assassinate http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgiIpt3PgKA&feature=relatedOct 28 19:50
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schestowitzLMAO http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilz7FYOI6H4&feature=relatedOct 28 19:57
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schestowitz"spidergoats"Oct 28 19:59
schestowitzHeheOct 28 19:59
schestowitzLinks 27/10/2011: GNOME 3.4 Plans, Retail Stores in China Sell GNU/Linux PCs http://is.gd/f81gTG #techrightsOct 28 19:59
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DaemonFCspidergoats?Oct 28 20:39
DaemonFCare thopse a new Monsanto patent?Oct 28 20:39
DaemonFCwolf resistant goatsOct 28 20:40
DaemonFCthe wolf thinks it is getting a meal but ends up caught in the spidergoat's webOct 28 20:40
DaemonFCand eaten aliveOct 28 20:40
*schestowitz out to the pub,bblOct 28 20:42
DaemonFCthe mesa classic drivers as well as dri1 and ums stuff for radeon were just removedOct 28 20:52
DaemonFCbasically means no radeon hardware will have 3d acceleration on the BSDs now if they upgrade to Mesa 7.12 when it's outOct 28 20:52
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DaemonFCas it was, on the BSDs, nothing past the radeonhd 4000 series had any 3d acceleration support at allOct 28 20:54
DaemonFCand it was all done through Classic Mesa which was incredibly broken anywayOct 28 20:54
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MinceRhttp://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/bug_dead_6003.jpgOct 28 21:22
TechrightsBot-trNot a web page! Aborting image/jpeg typeOct 28 21:22
Diablo-D3>tvtropesOct 28 21:22
MinceR>>Oct 28 21:24
XFaCE>>>Oct 28 21:46
MinceR>>>>Oct 28 21:46
XFaCE>>>>>>>>Oct 28 21:47
MinceRyou're doing it wrongOct 28 21:48
XFaCENo, I'm just doing it doubleOct 28 21:48
MinceR:)Oct 28 21:48
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MinceRgnOct 28 23:23
schestowitz"Puppy Linux is awesome. It revived an ancient computer I bought in 1999. I run Puppy on several computers." http://joindiaspora.com/posts/626000Oct 28 23:35
TechrightsBot-tr@: Oct 28 23:35
schestowitzGot ripped off on whiskey tonightOct 28 23:36
schestowitzordered three double-whiskeys, 19.20 pounds (about 30 dollars)Oct 28 23:36
schestowitzthey didj't even say he pice till it was servedOct 28 23:36
schestowitzI can buy two bottles at this priceOct 28 23:37
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/84745945\Oct 28 23:37
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/84673906#notice-84745945Oct 28 23:37
TechrightsBot-trNot a dent?Oct 28 23:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Conversation - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 13.4 KBOct 28 23:38
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/84745945Oct 28 23:38
TechrightsBot-tr@satipera (satipera)'s status on Friday, 28-Oct-11 20:00:48 UTC - Identi.ca: I wonder if he realises he is in for a marathon not the 1500m.Oct 28 23:38
schestowitzThe trolls are going at itOct 28 23:38
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/84175122Oct 28 23:41
TechrightsBot-tr@linux.conf.au 2012 (linuxconfau)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Sep-11 01:01:59 UTC - Identi.ca: linux.conf.au 2012 (http://identi.ca/linuxconfau) started following Techrights' IRC Aggregator (http://identi.ca/boycottnovell).Oct 28 23:41
schestowitz:-)Oct 28 23:41
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