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sebsebsebschestowitz:  loads of my dents haven't shown here recnetlNov 07 00:38
sebsebsebas in this evening and well now it's night realy, but the one I just did not shown hereNov 07 00:38
schestowitzidentica is b0rkedNov 07 00:39
schestowitzwith no signs of being repairableNov 07 00:39
sebsebsebschestowitz: hmm?Nov 07 00:44
sebsebsebwell one of my dents showed here earlierNov 07 00:44
schestowitzyes, sporadically it doesNov 07 00:51
schestowitzbut there are other oissuesNov 07 00:51
schestowitzif evan loses the community due to these creases and creaks, then he might see the site nosediveNov 07 00:51
sebsebsebschestowitz: well Googlehype will become even more popular in that case, and Disapora I guessNov 07 00:53
sebsebseboh and Twitter of course hmmNov 07 00:54
sebsebsebschestowitz: I think it will be around quite a while to come yetNov 07 00:54
sebsebseb,but  some things aren't quite as good as how things were before the big upgradeNov 07 00:54
schestowitzyes, exactlyNov 07 00:56
schestowitzbut...Nov 07 00:56
schestowitzTo claim a correlation between demise and upgrade it a tad rushed..Nov 07 00:57
schestowitzAs there was also the emergence of new competitorsNov 07 00:57
schestowitzpeople like Fabian had left even before Evan 'upgraded'Nov 07 00:57
sebsebsebschestowitz: and five days or so of lost dents, that haven't come back, that's not good eitherNov 07 01:00
sebsebsebI think it's DM's as wellNov 07 01:00
sebsebsebschestowitz: plus there's lots of spam on that site reallyNov 07 01:01
schestowitzI heard soNov 07 01:08
schestowitzDidn't see it thoughNov 07 01:08
schestowitzit's a sign of neglect to filter thingsNov 07 01:08
schestowitzMaybe evan is too busy fixing stuff so he can't ban spammers all day longNov 07 01:08
sebsebsebschestowitz: well fake accounts joining groups a lot of thatNov 07 01:09
sebsebseband sometimes spam messages to groups and suchNov 07 01:09
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schestowitzyeah, but..Nov 07 01:17
schestowitzThat led to bad filteringNov 07 01:17
schestowitzwhich meant the API won't pick stuff that overuses !syntaxNov 07 01:17
schestowitzanyhow...Nov 07 01:17
schestowitzFor tomorrow I have half a couple posts, 2 days of logs, more stuffNov 07 01:17
schestowitzbusy day..Nov 07 01:17
sebsebsebschestowitz: later on today you mean, it's after mid nightNov 07 01:18
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sebsebsebschestowitz: earlier bought the Humble Bundle  $12 this time though not $15Nov 07 01:19
sebsebseband default split as useual for the moneyNov 07 01:19
schestowitzayeNov 07 01:20
DaemonFChttps://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petitions#!/petition/we-demand-vapid-condescending-meaningless-politically-safe-response-petition/gCZfn86xNov 07 01:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: We the People: Your Voice in Our Government | The White House .::. Size~: 64.44 KBNov 07 01:21
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DaemonFChttp://www.jwz.org/images/1316458328_bottom_091613h55m42.jpgNov 07 01:25
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DaemonFChttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2057299/Occupy-Wall-Street-South-Park-mocks-movement-comedy-spoof.html?ito=feeds-newsxmlNov 07 01:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Occupy Wall Street: South Park mocks movement in comedy spoof  | Mail Online .::. Size~: 109.69 KBNov 07 01:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] my brother was not happy when I told him that I watched that episode without him....Nov 07 01:31
DaemonFChttp://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/11/05/article-0-0EAD0A8B00000578-863_634x681.jpgNov 07 01:37
TechrightsBot-trNot a web page! Aborting image/jpeg typeNov 07 01:37
DaemonFCthat's awesome, Walmarts in California are putting up signs in Spanish everywhereNov 07 01:38
DaemonFCit's where illegal immigrants go to shop while their friends back in Mexico make a lot of the stuff they're buying I guessNov 07 01:39
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XFaCE_sebsebseb: Thanks for resubbing me on identi. :)Nov 07 01:53
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sebsebsebXFaCE: I tried the other day/night even, but didn't workNov 07 01:57
sebsebsebXFaCE: well I tried around the time loads of dents got lostNov 07 01:58
sebsebseb,but yeah no problem :)Nov 07 01:58
XFaCEsebsebseb: Loads of dents got lost? Nov 07 01:59
sebsebsebXFaCE: yep five days of dents went bye byeNov 07 02:01
sebsebsebfive days or soNov 07 02:01
sebsebseband haven't come backNov 07 02:01
sebsebsebXFaCE: they are having some problems recently  here and thereNov 07 02:01
XFaCEsebsebseb: Every user was effected?Nov 07 02:01
sebsebsebanyawy this was like last week now, or the week befoerNov 07 02:01
sebsebsebyep every user was effected as far as I knowNov 07 02:01
sebsebseband dm's as wellNov 07 02:01
XFaCEHave they been restored?Nov 07 02:01
sebsebsebXFaCE: anyway something schestowitz linked to on Identica just seen it, seems funny https://joindiaspora.com/posts/354772Nov 07 02:02
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sebsebseband no those dent's have not been restoredNov 07 02:02
sebsebsebor well not mine anyway, so I assume not all the others as wellNov 07 02:02
sebsebsebalso I thought he was taking the site down before to get the dents back, but nope not back, anyway I re did two of mine earlierNov 07 02:02
sebsebsebMageia dentsNov 07 02:02
XFaCEschestowitz: niceNov 07 02:02
XFaCEsebsebseb: That's funnyNov 07 02:02
XFaCEThe pic I mean :PNov 07 02:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] http://ur1.ca/5o5yr The Daylight Saving Dance - !freemusic in the making.Nov 07 02:03
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Daylight Saving Dance music collaboration project - Kompoz.com .::. Size~: 35.53 KBNov 07 02:03
sebsebsebXFaCE: yep indeed it isNov 07 02:03
sebsebsebalso it looks nice that picNov 07 02:03
XFaCEOn another random "wiping", it seems that Youtube has eliminated many people's Copyright notices in around the same time period, including the one of my account from 2007Nov 07 02:04
sebsebseboh?Nov 07 02:04
XFaCEOne day, I found out I could post CC videos (which you can't do with strikes), so I checked and sure enough the copyright strike in account status was gone.Nov 07 02:04
XFaCENo email notification, no "rehabilitation" (aka the stupid video and quiz I saw mentioned in a news article), no alert whatsoeverNov 07 02:05
XFaCEIt's like the up and decided "yeah that was stupid" and wiped it cleanNov 07 02:05
XFaCEI did in fact email/contact the copyright holder, who had ACTUALLY GIVEN MY PERMISSION TO UPLOAD THE CLIP IN QUESTION, but I don't think that had anything to do with it.Nov 07 02:06
sebsebsebXFaCE: That image works nicely as a backgroundNov 07 02:06
sebsebsebas well just tried thatNov 07 02:06
sebsebseba bit bright htoughNov 07 02:06
XFaCEhmmNov 07 02:06
XFaCECall me grasping for straws, but maybe YouTube's "pardoning" of user accounts relates to the new "Last shred of dignity elimination in Copyright Legislation" acts that have been thrown up in the States?Nov 07 02:08
XFaCELike Protect-ImaginaryFriends/E-MAFIAAParasite?Nov 07 02:08
XFaCEMaybe Youtube is giving users a last hurrah to do whatever the hell they want?Nov 07 02:09
XFaCEIt's not really an explaination, but how else can one explain this?Nov 07 02:10
XFaCEDiablo-D3: Maybe YOU f**king know?Nov 07 02:10
XFaCE:)Nov 07 02:11
XFaCEsebNov 07 02:11
XFaCEsebsebseb: any other guesses?Nov 07 02:11
sebsebsebXFaCE: I don't really bother with Youtube, unless end up on vidoeo n there from a link, useualyNov 07 02:20
sebsebsebunless end up on a video on there aboveNov 07 02:20
sebsebsebfrom a linkNov 07 02:20
sebsebsebotherwise don't really bother with it muchNov 07 02:20
azalyni think google is just exploiting the loopholes in order to keep more content flowing.Nov 07 02:21
azalyngoogle doesn't actually care whether or not content is legally posted. they just don't want to get in trouble for it.Nov 07 02:21
XFaCEazalyn: What "loopholes" specifically?Nov 07 02:21
azalynwell, the dmca seems to put the onus on the copyright holder to file a complaint. and if you (the user of the service) contest the claim, then the only way they can proceed is to take you to court.Nov 07 02:23
azalynwhich pretty much never happens, because of the sheer costs.Nov 07 02:23
azalynwhat they're trying to do with the takedown notices is intimidate.Nov 07 02:23
azalyntechnically google doesn't even have to make any changes to your account.. they're not required by law.Nov 07 02:24
azalynthe only reason they've added such things is likely to try and 'show' that they're doing everything in their power to stop copyright infringement, in order to *stop* more dangerous laws from being passed.Nov 07 02:25
azalynkind of as a lobbying tool.Nov 07 02:25
azalynbut since this is a web service, no one knows how things work behind the scenes. so they could just do things like 'pardons' mysteriously...Nov 07 02:26
azalynand then later they could just blame it on a bug, if any copyright holders notice.Nov 07 02:26
azalynor to put it simply. they're walking a fine line. they want people to upload content, even copyrighted content, but they want this to be done in a way where they can't be blamed for it.Nov 07 02:27
XFaCEazalyn: Well, I think the notice and takedown system is stupid, regardless of what google does.Nov 07 02:28
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XFaCEsystem crash.  Ayeahaeyah!Nov 07 02:41
XFaCEhow rude of you, Vista 7Nov 07 02:41
XFaCEsebsebseb: Windows is obviously superawesome!111Nov 07 02:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] I didn't understand 98% of his "problems" post except that he's working on "it"; but I don't understand enough 2 know if its your "it"Nov 07 03:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Okay, dragging the !NaNoWriMo wordcount along one word at a time... up to 9053 ... hoping to crack 10k yet today to get caught upNov 07 04:02
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DaemonFCediting WikipediaNov 07 05:23
DaemonFC:)Nov 07 05:23
DaemonFChttps://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/w/index.php?title=S3_Texture_Compression&action=historysubmit&diff=459410947&oldid=456348982Nov 07 05:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !NaNoWriMo Day 5 wordcount total is : 10008 day ... 5,007 of those words written todayNov 07 05:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !listening to Gavin Knight and the Rhythm Resurgence "Try A Little Tenderness"Nov 07 05:36
twitterhttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/05/yahoo-deniel-loeb-jerry-yang_n_1077749.html?ref=technologyNov 07 05:37
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Yahoo Investor Daniel Loeb Demands Board Ouster Of Co-Founder Jerry Yang .::. Size~: 245.88 KBNov 07 05:37
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DaemonFCquit posting Puffington Post articlesNov 07 05:38
DaemonFCunless you want to ridicule themNov 07 05:38
DaemonFC:)Nov 07 05:38
DaemonFCI need to see if Walmart has headlight bulbs for my carNov 07 05:45
DaemonFCone is burned out and the other is getting thereNov 07 05:45
Guest13564The news is that Yang is getting kicked even further out of Yahoo, that little company he founded and Microsoft is ruining. Nov 07 05:46
DaemonFChttps://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9221333/Lazy_hackers_port_ancient_Linux_Trojan_to_Mac_OS_X?taxonomyId=85Nov 07 05:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Lazy hackers port ancient Linux Trojan to Mac OS X - Computerworld .::. Size~: 130.96 KBNov 07 05:49
DaemonFClolNov 07 05:49
DaemonFC"Hackers are testing new Mac malware that they've ported from a nine-year-old Trojan horse originally written for Linux, according to security experts."Nov 07 05:49
DaemonFCexcept on OS X it will probably be a threatNov 07 05:49
DaemonFCbecause Apple will go 9 months without a patchNov 07 05:49
DaemonFCand every system is basically the sameNov 07 05:49
DaemonFCyou could also look at this from the angle that current OS X installations are vulnerable to malware that targeted Red Hat Linux 9 almost 10 years ago Nov 07 05:51
DaemonFConly Red Hat patched it promptly and it basically went nowhere on LinuxNov 07 05:51
DaemonFCApple forks a lot of open source codeNov 07 05:52
DaemonFCand the bug is probably the same one which survived in Apple's fork of that program or libraryNov 07 05:52
DaemonFCmy guess anywayNov 07 05:52
DaemonFC"Your library doesn't quite jive with our Grand Vision(TM)" so we'll fork it, hack it to death, bling it out with neon underlighting, and bury the result in our proprietary operating system"Nov 07 05:54
DaemonFC-AppleNov 07 05:54
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schestowitzGuest13564: "oh ok. thank you for pointing that out. ^" https://joindiaspora.com/posts/693177Nov 07 06:23
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schestowitzGuest13564: good link about YangNov 07 06:24
Guest13564:)Nov 07 06:24
schestowitzif you can provide an explanation, that would be goodNov 07 06:24
schestowitzIIRC, Yang last said something not too negative about MSFTNov 07 06:25
schestowitzbut was prepared to sign a Google dealNov 07 06:25
schestowitzThen the Microsoft AstroTurf beganNov 07 06:25
schestowitzIt hired front groupsNov 07 06:25
schestowitzLawMedia Groups (LMG) and moreNov 07 06:35
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DaemonFCaccording to Alex Deucher of AMD, the reverse engineered HDMI audio code for Radeon HD cards didn't quite get everything rightNov 07 07:29
DaemonFCand improved code is under "IP" reviewNov 07 07:29
DaemonFCfunny,  the current implementation works fine for meNov 07 07:29
schestowitzhmmm...Nov 07 07:29
DaemonFCoh, apparently the bug in the reverse engineered code is that enabling HDMI audio causes blank screens with some card/monitor/output configurationsNov 07 07:30
DaemonFCI figured the entire reason for the hold up that necessitated the reverse engineering in the first place was Windows DRMNov 07 07:31
DaemonFCthe "Protected Media Path" and all that nonsenseNov 07 07:31
DaemonFCeverything that touched HDMI is poisoned by WindowsNov 07 07:32
DaemonFCThey still say "UVD" like it mattersNov 07 07:33
DaemonFCI don't care if UVD is ever supported in the open source driver for my cardNov 07 07:33
DaemonFCUVD is barely supported in software and is limited to accelerated decode of MPEG and Windows Media formatsNov 07 07:34
DaemonFCvdpau support is near universalNov 07 07:34
DaemonFCsupported already in my card's open source driverNov 07 07:34
DaemonFCand nothing about the API prevents it from being extended to support VP8Nov 07 07:34
DaemonFCschestowitz: I was lucky I went to Walmart instead of going to the auto parts storeNov 07 07:35
DaemonFCone headlight bulb for my car at the auto parts store is $20Nov 07 07:35
DaemonFCWalmart had a two pack for $12Nov 07 07:35
DaemonFCno wonder they're killing specialty storesNov 07 07:36
DaemonFCI guess the problem will come the day when I need something Walmart doesn't have and they chased the car part store out of town by undercutting them on bulbs, fuses, and wiper bladesNov 07 07:38
DaemonFC:)Nov 07 07:38
azalynthe vdpau support appears to be a gallium state tracker.Nov 07 07:38
azalynwhich is a shame.Nov 07 07:38
DaemonFCthe vdpau support is excellentNov 07 07:38
azalyni want to see the radeon UVD stuff reverse engineered.Nov 07 07:38
DaemonFCI have better vdpau support on my Radeon than I did with Nvidia using their binary driverNov 07 07:38
DaemonFCand they wrote the API!Nov 07 07:38
azalynDaemonFC: yeah but the cards are supposed to have hardware offloading, not just using the shaders.Nov 07 07:39
DaemonFCwhy are gallium state trackers bad?Nov 07 07:39
azalynpower use. with the dedicated hardware decoding, you're supposed to get video decoding with like idle cpu, and idle or near-idle gpu.Nov 07 07:39
azalynand heat too of course.Nov 07 07:39
azalynit's a shame to have that hardware and let it go to waste.Nov 07 07:40
azalynbut for now i suppose i'll take what i can get.Nov 07 07:40
DaemonFCGallium3d is better than the old Classic Mesa shit in every possible wayNov 07 07:40
DaemonFCat least on my RadeonNov 07 07:40
azalynbut i read that the state tracker for vdpau doesn't yet have h264 offloading.Nov 07 07:40
DaemonFCClassic Mesa was slower, liked to crash a lotNov 07 07:40
azalynit's like mpeg2 i think.. and divxNov 07 07:40
DaemonFCand would corrupt things it claimed to supportNov 07 07:40
DaemonFCI think it just overgrew its original designNov 07 07:41
DaemonFCGallium3d sounds more solidNov 07 07:41
azalynwhat kind of radeon you got?Nov 07 07:41
azalyni have a radeon hd 4850Nov 07 07:41
DaemonFC5670 and 4670Nov 07 07:41
DaemonFCr600g supports both of them fairly wellNov 07 07:41
DaemonFCmy experience using Classic Mesa with them was terribleNov 07 07:42
DaemonFCit was such garbage I ran screaming back to their proprietary driverNov 07 07:42
DaemonFCI don't know how Intel is keeping their stuff going Nov 07 07:42
DaemonFCthere was a while where the system defaulted to Classic Mesa and you had to use an option ForceGallium "true" in xorg.conf to get Gallium3dNov 07 07:43
DaemonFCthe default was a far worse experience than something that claimed to be unstableNov 07 07:43
DaemonFC:)Nov 07 07:43
DaemonFCFGLRX is getting so bad it often just likes to hang for no reason or fail to restore the proper video mode when coming back from suspendNov 07 07:45
DaemonFCI install it sometimes if a particular game needs it then yank it back outNov 07 07:46
DaemonFCthe main reason for FGLRX lingering on is Microsoft DRM Nov 07 07:46
DaemonFCit touches so many things in the hardware that it crimps what AMD can documentNov 07 07:47
DaemonFCthere were a few people that warned of just that when Vista came alongNov 07 07:47
DaemonFCand they were laughed off as being paranoidNov 07 07:47
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DaemonFCThe same kind of people populate OMG Ubuntu and "omgcheesecake"Nov 07 07:49
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DaemonFChttp://www.engadget.com/2011/11/04/microsoft-approved-windows-phone-7-unlocker-goes-live/Nov 07 07:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft-approved Windows Phone 7 unlocker goes live -- Engadget .::. Size~: 62.99 KBNov 07 07:53
DaemonFCthis is brilliantNov 07 07:53
DaemonFCplace some restrictions that they don't really care about enforcing on your phoneNov 07 07:53
DaemonFCand then promote this thing as an "unlocker"Nov 07 07:53
DaemonFCwhich doesn't unlock anything they really wanted to restrictNov 07 07:53
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DaemonFCwhat's more ,they charge you $9 for their "unlocker"Nov 07 07:54
DaemonFCWindows Phone 7 StarterNov 07 07:54
DaemonFCwith Anytime UpgradeNov 07 07:54
DaemonFC:)Nov 07 07:54
FaitherTHIS: http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/11/06/us-cyber-cartwright-idUSTRE7A514C20111106 is insane!Nov 07 07:55
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ex-U.S. general urges frank talk on cyber weapons | Reuters .::. Size~: 101.3 KBNov 07 07:55
azalyncyber weapons...?Nov 07 07:56
azalyn:|Nov 07 07:56
azalyni'm not even going to click that...Nov 07 07:56
schestowitzLOLNov 07 07:56
schestowitzno malwareNov 07 07:56
schestowitzFaither: is anyone surprised?Nov 07 07:57
schestowitzChina does this too...Nov 07 07:57
azalynthat's not what i meant.Nov 07 07:57
azalyni'm not afraid of malware.Nov 07 07:57
azalyni'm afraid of stupidity.Nov 07 07:57
FaitherI think reuters shouldn't call for stricter regulations?Nov 07 07:57
schestowitzYou think they spread fear?Nov 07 07:57
FaitherIt's like no one learned anything from the cold warNov 07 07:58
DaemonFCsometimes I think people don't learn anything from anythingNov 07 07:58
Faitherand while it might well be that a state has to protect its citisens from attacks lack of network security in companies should not be used to declare war on other nationsNov 07 08:00
azalynthis is so petty though... i mean who will be scared of a cyberspace deterrent...Nov 07 08:00
DaemonFCthe Chinese will just shoot our satellites down if they ever declare war on usNov 07 08:01
DaemonFCthey don't need malwareNov 07 08:01
FaitherBut they really should get rid of the termonolgy of cyber-anything -.-Nov 07 08:06
azalyncybersex.Nov 07 08:08
schestowitzcyberixNov 07 08:08
DaemonFChttp://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/7411.htmlNov 07 08:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: mjg59 | Understanding the current state of UEFI .::. Size~: 39.29 KBNov 07 08:08
DaemonFC14/f/AOLNov 07 08:08
DaemonFCwanna CYBER?Nov 07 08:09
DaemonFC:)Nov 07 08:09
FaitherxDNov 07 08:09
DaemonFC(FBI agent)Nov 07 08:09
schestowitzAOL?Nov 07 08:09
schestowitzL is for landNov 07 08:09
schestowitzin A/S/L anywayNov 07 08:10
Faitherwe finally find a usecase for AOL then xDNov 07 08:10
schestowitzAmerica on LillyNov 07 08:11
DaemonFChttp://www.osnews.com/comments/25299Nov 07 08:12
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Google Mulls Divorcing Chamber of Commerce over PROTECT IP > Comments .::. Size~: 38.06 KBNov 07 08:12
schestowitzThey should have slapped COC ages agoNov 07 08:12
schestowitzCoC is a really nasty lobby frontNov 07 08:12
schestowitzWhy would Google support CoC?Nov 07 08:12
schestowitzDo know evil?Nov 07 08:13
Faitherthis would be a great way to get companies banned on the web!!Nov 07 08:14
Faitheryou could use a simple Iframe to get them banned xDNov 07 08:14
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Faitheri'd certainly giggle if one could download "pirated" material through an injected iframe from warner Bros.Nov 07 08:16
azalynlet's just nuke all governments from orbit.Nov 07 08:19
Faithericeland seems to be doing okNov 07 08:20
DaemonFCIceland has no militaryNov 07 08:20
Faitheris that a bad thing now?Nov 07 08:21
DaemonFCthey have a coast guardNov 07 08:21
DaemonFCthat's not really a military thing thoughNov 07 08:21
DaemonFCIceland declares war, sends coast guardNov 07 08:21
DaemonFC:)Nov 07 08:21
DaemonFCFaither: The population of Iceland is not largeNov 07 08:22
FaitherI mean america is defending their borders in Iraq, last time I checked they weren't even neighbor statesNov 07 08:23
Faitherso why not send out the coast guard xDNov 07 08:23
azalynwe need to all unify.Nov 07 08:24
Faitherone world one nation!Nov 07 08:24
azalynand start preparing our militaries for the future alien invasion.Nov 07 08:24
DaemonFCWe need to unifyNov 07 08:25
DaemonFCdon't forget the app indicatorsNov 07 08:25
DaemonFCand the cloudNov 07 08:25
DaemonFC:)Nov 07 08:25
FaitherxDNov 07 08:25
azalynwe can't even unify gnome and kde. i think unifying the world is going to be a bit tricky......Nov 07 08:25
DaemonFCanyone seen jono? I have a pizza to dedicate to himNov 07 08:26
DaemonFC"Bacon Blast"Nov 07 08:26
DaemonFC:DNov 07 08:26
Faitheryes and let's install ubuntu with unity everywhere, don't stop at desktop and tablets, phones...Nov 07 08:26
azalyntoaster ovensNov 07 08:26
Faitherlike they said on tux radar podcast we all need to run it on our fridgesNov 07 08:26
azalyni want unity installed in my mini-wheatsNov 07 08:27
DaemonFCplay tux racer between refrigerator crashes Nov 07 08:28
Faitherrecomplile the kernel to open the fridge and get to the milkNov 07 08:28
DaemonFChttp://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203716204577013852223036764.htmlNov 07 08:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Spanish Firm Wins Tablet Case Against Apple - WSJ.com .::. Size~: 137.39 KBNov 07 08:29
DaemonFCI hate WSJNov 07 08:29
DaemonFCthey portray Apple as victims of (the horror) credible competitionNov 07 08:29
Faitherapple also lost in German court caseNov 07 08:29
Faitherthey aren't allowed to sell their products xDNov 07 08:30
Faitherbut apple says it wouldn't effect themNov 07 08:30
Faitherdon't quite understand the logic behind itNov 07 08:30
DaemonFCFINE, HAVE YOUR STUPID TABLET THAT LETS YOU DO WHATEVER YOU WANT!!!Nov 07 08:31
DaemonFCSEE IF WE CARE!Nov 07 08:32
DaemonFC:PNov 07 08:32
Faither:DNov 07 08:32
Faitherfirst of all they didn't show up in the courtNov 07 08:33
Faitherthen they lost becasue of a software patent infringementNov 07 08:33
Faitherwhich as far as i know are still not legal in germany or the euNov 07 08:33
DaemonFCEmperor Palpatine will MAKE IT LEGALNov 07 08:38
Faithermeh google can't translate -.-Nov 07 08:39
Faithernvm looking for differnt source ^^Nov 07 08:41
Faitherflorain müller ain't that reliable xDNov 07 08:41
Faitherfound it funny though taht translate.google.com wouldn't translate his text xDNov 07 08:44
DaemonFChttp://www.rinkworks.com/dialect/dialectp.cgi?dialect=bork&url=http%3A%2F%2Ffosspatents.blogspot.com%2F2011%2F11%2Fgerman-lawyers-say-apple-urgently-needs.htmlNov 07 08:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Dialectizer .::. Size~: 6.33 KBNov 07 08:46
DaemonFCthere you goNov 07 08:46
FaitherxDNov 07 08:47
Faitheri can actually still read and unsderstand that xDNov 07 08:48
MinceRgeekingsNov 07 08:48
DaemonFCFlorian Mueller is more readable after being BorkedNov 07 08:49
Faither^^Nov 07 08:49
MinceRborken?Nov 07 08:49
DaemonFCBork bork bork!Nov 07 08:49
schestowitzFaither: he has been a reliable lobbyist to MicrosoftNov 07 08:50
schestowitzHe delivered "Results"Nov 07 08:50
Faitherfabsh said something about it now being officially proven evenNov 07 08:50
schestowitzYesNov 07 08:50
schestowitzI got material on himNov 07 08:51
schestowitzHe admitted MS paid himNov 07 08:51
Faitherwas about time ^^Nov 07 08:51
DaemonFC"Zee Muturula cese-a is ebuoot techneecel petents vheele-a zee Semsoong cese-a is ebuoot a deseegn-releted intellectooel pruperty reeght. Um de hur de hur de hur."Nov 07 08:51
DaemonFC:)Nov 07 08:51
FaitherWenn Fliegen hinter fliegen fliegen, fliegen Fliegen Fliegen nach xDNov 07 08:52
MinceRJames while John had had had had had had had had had had had a better effect on the teacherNov 07 08:52
MinceRBuffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffaloNov 07 08:52
schestowitzDaemonFC Diablo-D3 Diablo-D3 Diablo-D3Nov 07 08:53
Diablo-D3what.Nov 07 08:54
DaemonFC"In my feeoo, a preleeminerily inffurceeble-a injooncshun egeeenst Epple's cure-a prudoocts is fer tuu impurtunt nut tu poobleesh und repurt oon. Bork bork bork! Iff I get sooch a theeng oon a Freedey, I poobleesh it zee seme-a dey und nut joost effter zee veekend. Bork bork bork!"Nov 07 08:54
schestowitzidentica is down, no?Nov 07 08:57
schestowitzWhat a pile of steamy ..Nov 07 08:57
FaithersadfaceNov 07 08:58
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DaemonFCsomething about going to KDE 4.7.3 made Konversation quit crashingNov 07 09:00
Faitherwhat distro are you using?Nov 07 09:00
Faitherkonversation always was running reliable for meNov 07 09:01
DaemonFChttp://www.indystar.com/article/20111106/LOCAL/111060354/Star-Watch-Investigation-Did-Indiana-miss-7M-opportunity-?odyssey=mod|mostcomNov 07 09:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Star Watch Investigation: Did Indiana miss a $7M opportunity? | The Indianapolis Star | indystar.com .::. Size~: 149.42 KBNov 07 09:02
schestowitzSUSE Gets Lost in the ‘Cloud’Nov 07 09:02
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2011/11/07/suse-analyses/ #suse #opensuse #novellNov 07 09:02
DaemonFC"Six years ago, Indiana passed a law to provide free birth control to low-income mothers who had recently given birth."Nov 07 09:02
DaemonFCIsn't that in the wrong order?Nov 07 09:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: SUSE Gets Lost in the ‘Cloud’ | Techrights .::. Size~: 88.09 KBNov 07 09:02
DaemonFC:)Nov 07 09:02
schestowitzMicrosoft’s New Patent Deal, Apple Lawsuits, Lodsys, US Backlash Against Software Patents, and More http://is.gd/QbNOffNov 07 09:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Patents Roundup: Microsoft’s New Patent Deal, Apple Lawsuits, Lodsys, US Backlash Against Software Patents, and More | Techrights .::. Size~: 98.1 KBNov 07 09:02
schestowitzAttachmate/Novell: Videos, GroupWise, and Abandonment http://techrights.org/2011/11/07/groupwise-and-more/ #novellNov 07 09:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Attachmate/Novell: Videos, GroupWise, and Abandonment | Techrights .::. Size~: 87.99 KBNov 07 09:02
schestowitzNovell Gives up on Partner SatisfactionNov 07 09:02
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2011/11/07/attachmate-stewardship/ #novell #attachmatNov 07 09:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Novell Gives up on Partner Satisfaction | Techrights .::. Size~: 82.33 KBNov 07 09:03
schestowitz#Attachmate Actually Has a Product, Buries Some of Novell’s http://techrights.org/2011/11/07/reflection-suite/ #novell #PlateSpin Looks Dead http://techrights.org/2011/11/07/platespin-waste/ #novell #attachmateNov 07 09:03
Faitherno more cyber with novell! xDNov 07 09:03
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Attachmate Actually Has a Product, Buries Some of Novell’s | Techrights .::. Size~: 83.25 KBNov 07 09:03
TechrightsBot-trTitle: PlateSpin Looks Dead | Techrights .::. Size~: 82.29 KBNov 07 09:03
DaemonFC"Nov 07 09:03
DaemonFCThe legislation required Gov. Mitch Daniels' Office of Medicaid Policy and Planning -- an office within FSSA -- to apply to federal officials for the Medicaid expansion before Jan. 1, 2006.Nov 07 09:03
DaemonFCIt didn't.Nov 07 09:03
DaemonFCIncompetent governer is inceompetentNov 07 09:03
DaemonFC*sigh*Nov 07 09:03
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DaemonFC"Nov 07 09:05
DaemonFCIn 2014 (unless it is overturned) President Barack Obama's health-care overhaul will require that every state provide everyone up to 133 percent of poverty level access to free birth control.Nov 07 09:05
DaemonFCThat will cover fewer new mothers than the 200-percent-of-poverty-level threshold in Indiana's 2005 bill, but it will provide coverage to qualified men for vasectomies and to women who have never been pregnant."Nov 07 09:05
DaemonFChehNov 07 09:05
DaemonFCfree vasectomies Nov 07 09:05
schestowitzfree as in freedom?Nov 07 09:06
DaemonFCI wonder if I can catch Gonad's family one by one while they're highNov 07 09:06
DaemonFCand have them consent to oneNov 07 09:06
schestowitzIIRC in the UK some people are paid to be sterilisedNov 07 09:06
schestowitzThose whom the government does not want to spread mentality of genesNov 07 09:06
DaemonFCschestowitz: *cough* HITLERNov 07 09:07
DaemonFC*cough*Nov 07 09:07
DaemonFC:)Nov 07 09:07
Faitheri think he didn't pay them thoughNov 07 09:07
Faitherand used other means to ensure they wouldn't "spread their genes" ...Nov 07 09:08
DaemonFCthe thing about voluntary and uncompensated sterilization is that it assumes the people who get welfare every time they reproduce will opt into itNov 07 09:08
DaemonFChttp://www.indystar.com/usatoday/article/50316558?odyssey=mod|newswell|text|LOCAL190102|sNov 07 09:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Seemingly drunk Swedish moose found stuck in tree | The Indianapolis Star | indystar.com .::. Size~: 114.2 KBNov 07 09:11
schestowitzFaither: http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/2011/11/06/archlinux-notforthe-elite/Nov 07 09:11
schestowitzNot just for the FaithersNov 07 09:12
Faitheri'm not elite )=Nov 07 09:12
DaemonFC"Johansson said the moose appeared to be sick, drunk, or "half-stupid.""Nov 07 09:12
TechrightsBot-trTitle: ArchLinux, not just for the elite | Moved by Freedom – Powered by Standards .::. Size~: 21.32 KBNov 07 09:12
DaemonFClike most of the people in the town I live inNov 07 09:12
Faither^^Nov 07 09:13
Faitherschestowitz: the site is kind of slow -.-Nov 07 09:13
schestowitzyeahNov 07 09:16
schestowitzI noticedNov 07 09:16
Faither[...] the latest Gnome 3 version, the latest Unity and the latest Xfce [...] - no, no unity in the reposNov 07 09:16
FaitherI actually made the mistake and installed archlinux on my father's laptop xDNov 07 09:17
FaitherI wouldn't recommend it for starters anymore ^^Nov 07 09:19
Diablo-D3arch is the new gentoo, thus sucksNov 07 09:19
Faitherarch is what you make it, so if you want to make it suck - you can do thatNov 07 09:20
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Faitherschestowitz: so when will you start using archlinux xDNov 07 09:24
DaemonFCschestowitz dual boots Windows Vista and LinspireNov 07 09:32
FaitherDaemonFC: i know he does xDNov 07 09:32
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schestowitzDaemonFC: Linspire is ma moto!Nov 07 09:47
schestowitz*motorNov 07 09:47
schestowitzor mottoNov 07 09:47
schestowitzDaemonFC: come on baby, light my fire -- Kevin CarmonyNov 07 09:47
Faither^^Nov 07 09:48
DaemonFCcome on baby, get fired and go on an endless tear about Michael RobertsonNov 07 09:48
DaemonFC:)Nov 07 09:48
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schestowitzCar money.... KevinNov 07 10:01
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iophkIP: if it's property, then were is the property tax?Nov 07 11:39
schestowitzIP, if intellect goes into it, then the inventor of the swing is a geniusNov 07 11:44
schestowitz!google patent method of swining a swingNov 07 11:44
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Reexamination - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ReexaminationNov 07 11:44
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Boy takes swing at US patents - 17 April 2002 - New Scientist | http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn2178-boy-takes-swing-at-us-patents.htmlNov 07 11:44
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Method of swinging on a swing - Google Patents | http://www.google.com/patents/about/6368227_Method_of_swinging_on_a_swing.html%3Fid%3DT2QKAAAAEBAJNov 07 11:44
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Method of Swinging on a Swing: Strangest Patents: Science Channel | http://science.discovery.com/top-ten/2009/strange-patents/strange-patents-01.htmlNov 07 11:44
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schestowitz!google slide to unlockNov 07 11:54
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Urban Dictionary: slide to unlock | http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php%3Fterm%3Dslide%2520to%2520unlockNov 07 11:54
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Apple's Slide To Unlock Patent Could Be Trouble For Android Phones | http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/26/apple-slide-to-unlock-patent-android_n_1032513.htmlNov 07 11:54
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Apple's Slide to Unlock Patent: Yes, the Patent System Needs ... | http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2011/10/27/apples-slide-to-unlock-patent-yes-the-patent-system-needs-reform/Nov 07 11:54
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - ThinkGeek :: Slide to Unlock Babydoll | http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts-apparel/womens/a581/Nov 07 11:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] What? How does that happen?Nov 07 12:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Yeah, you know, I know there are problems, but I don't know what your problem is.Nov 07 12:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] It's not entirely broken, but I'd like to know the particular issue you're seeing.Nov 07 12:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Inbox (home timeline) distribution is handled by an offline daemon; I'll see why it's failing sometimes.Nov 07 12:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻@forteller Epic stuff! DSN explaind in old school game fashion! @unhosted: Distributed Social Networks, explained for muggles: ur1.ca/5o9a2Nov 07 12:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] Dutch government taking over marketing & product training for Microsoft: http://is.gd/lDyxL4Nov 07 13:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @evan when I looked at @reality's timeline, he had dented more but they hadn't appeared on my timeline. I have seen dents coming & going...Nov 07 13:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Indians demand action after #Paraguay’s ‘hiding tribe’ spotted - http://bit.ly/tSG6Es an unfolding tragedyNov 07 13:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] oh yeah, !tzag and good morning !identiverseNov 07 13:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] UK digital album sales hit 21.3m, surpassing 2010 figure with 2 months to spare - http://tnw.co/sbFCUw so how's that "decimation by piracy"?Nov 07 13:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @glynmoody UK digital album sales hit 21.3m, surpassing 2010 figure with 2 months to spare - http://tnw.co/sbFCUw so how's that "deci ...Nov 07 13:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Evil social networks - http://bit.ly/u76nxI #Klout gets cloutedNov 07 13:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] The ecology professor just said "Ecologists like to talk about tits" http://bit.ly/rBlaWJNov 07 14:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] The university has just asked me to take a survey on data ownership, open access et al. Good sign!Nov 07 14:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] RT @bachitux !Fedora 17: gnome-shell will run on hardware without a native 3D driver, including virt guests http://goo.gl/Qv4Hx !LinuxNov 07 14:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] RT @fsf Help stop the latest round of Internet Blacklist legislation! http://ur1.ca/5mzvs !fsf !gnuNov 07 14:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] Ubuntu's Maverick Mobile Move http://ur1.ca/5ocyk #linuxNov 07 15:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] I'll save time in the long run #fun #xkcd http://ur1.ca/5oczaNov 07 15:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] Google: Microsoft uses patents when products "stop succeeding" http://ur1.ca/5od0t Ah, yup.Nov 07 15:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] How Andy Rubin kept Android open-source at its heart http://ur1.ca/5nghkNov 07 15:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] Debian Beckons Ubuntu Refugees to Come Home http://ur1.ca/5od66Nov 07 15:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @digimer !FreeByron's case will be heard at 361 University Ave, in room 2-4 << beginning at 10AM TODAY ....trial may go 2 or 3 weeksNov 07 15:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Can't connect to Identi.ca, or to your setup?Nov 07 15:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] You might want to make sure you have gmp or bcmath installed.Nov 07 15:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] #tzag Identizens.Obituary. Axel Axgil: Gay activist who pioneered civil partnerships. http://ur1.ca/5odcoNov 07 15:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] Plasma Active on Mer running on a Nokia 950 http://ur1.ca/5odigNov 07 16:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Thanks. That's a good assessment: #Klout as a virus, I mean http://ur1.ca/5oc01 http://ur1.ca/5odi7Nov 07 16:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] the top 50 media tweeters - http://bit.ly/uu7Ym5 clueless: no one from outside *traditional* news outlets listed (not that I'm bitter)Nov 07 16:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @j_kneen What's $75 Bn between friends? >> !Canada #BAILED OUT Banks Too ... #nostrings http://ur1.ca/5odtf !CDNpoli #OccupyCanadaNov 07 16:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !FreeByron http://ur1.ca/5oe1v < google translationNov 07 16:59
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XFaCEmsb__: May just be me, but does anybody else find this http://distrowatch.com/images/screenshots/mint-12-preview.png unappealing?Nov 07 17:15
*schestowitz backNov 07 17:15
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*XFaCE forwardNov 07 17:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Free As In Freedom: But Whose Freedom? - http://bit.ly/vQTsv7 tricky stuff, freedom... #rms #gpl #ccNov 07 17:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @edyong209 @BoraZ Technorati's Blogosphere report shocks bloggers by reminding them that Technorati still exists bit.ly/ujNgsiNov 07 17:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Barnes & Noble launches Nook Tablet (Computerworld): http://bit.ly/vSNWGfNov 07 17:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] For its $249 Nook Tablet, B&N will offer free customer support in its 700 bookstores: B&N CEO William LynchNov 07 17:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Amazon Fire was based on the RIM Playbook reference design, and built by the same manufacturer: B&N CEO LynchNov 07 17:26
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XFaCEschestowitz: Ubuntu has been dethroned on Distrowatch!  Err, like it hasn't before...Nov 07 17:32
XFaCENEWSNEWSNEWSNEWSNEWSNov 07 17:32
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XFaCEhey jono, you've been "dethroned" on DistrowatchNov 07 17:33
jonoXFaCE, okNov 07 17:33
XFaCEjono: Lol.  I know.  I' m starving for actual news. DW has failed greatly.Nov 07 17:34
jonohahNov 07 17:34
schestowitzdethroned by its childNov 07 17:34
jonoI have never really considered DW a metricNov 07 17:34
jonoan indicator, yup, but not a metricNov 07 17:34
jonobut congrats to mintNov 07 17:35
jono:-)Nov 07 17:35
XFaCEjono: Funny that I actually would use Xubuntu over the mini equivalentNov 07 17:35
jono:-)Nov 07 17:36
XFaCEMint is bloated, and Ubuntu is less so.Nov 07 17:36
XFaCEschestowitz: I'll take a look at Fedora 16 again to see if the XFCE has been improved.Nov 07 17:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] http://ur1.ca/5oek5Nov 07 17:37
XFaCEI like Debian, but it takes practice to install the "Basic" wayNov 07 17:37
XFaCEK, enough babblingNov 07 17:37
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dfhgjdfhg-.-Nov 07 17:38
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XFaCEgieheoirgdoirh dfhgjdfhg Nov 07 17:39
dfhgjdfhgmy router just d/c-ed every 20 secsNov 07 17:39
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Faitherand now I'm banned on #archlinux -.-Nov 07 17:40
XFaCEschestowitz: Geist has put up 24 organizations against C-11 DRM provisions.Nov 07 17:40
schestowitzthanks, XFaCENov 07 17:41
XFaCEWill Harper listen?  Nooooo.  And the Conservative supporters will sit and drink the kool-aidNov 07 17:41
schestowitzjono: I wanted to give you and your company a big thumbsup for the decision to return to RBNov 07 17:42
XFaCEjono: You may not be perfect yet, but that is a big step in the right direction.Nov 07 17:43
schestowitzjono is not at faultNov 07 17:43
schestowitzhe's not Ubuntu/CanonicalNov 07 17:43
XFaCEschestowitz: I know.Nov 07 17:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Success Against Mono http://ur1.ca/5oeosNov 07 17:44
XFaCEjono: You should be "It"Nov 07 17:44
jonothanks folksNov 07 17:44
XFaCENot you as in you, but you as in the word in the first sentenceNov 07 17:44
XFaCEjono: Does you band/you do prog rock?Nov 07 17:46
XFaCEschestowitz: Want to lol'd?Nov 07 17:54
XFaCEschestowitz: Take a look at this.Nov 07 17:54
XFaCEhttp://www.microsoft.com/licensing/software-assurance/windows-thin-pc.aspxNov 07 17:54
XFaCEschestowitz: "Windows Thin PC enables customers to repurpose existing PCs as thin clients by providing a locked-down version of Windows 7 with a smaller footprint."Nov 07 17:55
XFaCEAnd what is this smaller footprint?Nov 07 17:56
XFaCE" 1 GHz or faster 32-bit (x86) processorNov 07 17:56
XFaCE•  1 GB RAM, 16 GB available hard disk spaceNov 07 17:56
XFaCE•    DirectX 9 graphics device with Windows Display Driver Manager Nov 07 17:56
XFaCE(WDDM) 1.0 or later version driverNov 07 17:56
XFaCE•  Bootable DVD-ROM drive"Nov 07 17:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] If #WikiLeaks is dying, then the #NYT is partly to blame - http://bit.ly/sduLS8 definitely true, IMHONov 07 17:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] I believe you forgot #progress! on that ;)Nov 07 17:57
XFaCEschestowitz: Vs... uh..Nov 07 17:57
XFaCE    1 gigahertz (GHz) or faster 32-bit (x86) or 64-bit (x64) processorNov 07 17:57
XFaCE    1 gigabyte (GB) RAM (32-bit) or 2 GB RAM (64-bit)Nov 07 17:57
XFaCE    16 GB available hard disk space (32-bit) or 20 GB (64-bit)Nov 07 17:57
XFaCE    DirectX 9 graphics device with WDDM 1.0 or higher driverNov 07 17:57
XFaCE"Yes, you can run applications that fall into one of the following Nov 07 17:57
XFaCEcategories:Nov 07 17:57
XFaCE•  SecurityNov 07 17:57
XFaCE•  ManagementNov 07 17:57
XFaCE•  Terminal emulationNov 07 17:57
XFaCE•  Remote Desktop and similar technologiesNov 07 17:57
XFaCE•  Web browser Nov 07 17:57
XFaCE•  Media playerNov 07 17:57
XFaCE•  Instant messaging clientNov 07 17:57
XFaCE•  Document viewersNov 07 17:57
XFaCE•  .NET Framework and Java Virtual MachineNov 07 17:57
XFaCEHowever, you cannot run any productivity applications, such as Nov 07 17:57
XFaCEMicrosoft Office or similar applications."Nov 07 17:57
Faitheryay white listed applications even xDNov 07 17:57
XFaCEschestowitz: So the smaller footprin has exactly the same system requirements?  Wow!Nov 07 17:57
FaitherXFaCE: Can you cahnge your background image though?Nov 07 17:58
iophkXFaCE: but you knew it was garbage before reading the specs, so why bother?Nov 07 17:58
XFaCEFaither: Get ready for the new Toyota that is more fuel efficient than the old 30-mpg one.  It now gets 30-mpgNov 07 17:58
XFaCEiophk: You can never have too many Microsoft-laughter-inducing points.Nov 07 17:59
FaitherSo they basically rebranded Windows starter to Thin PC? xDNov 07 17:59
XFaCEFaither: Even Windows FLP was a stronger effort. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Fundamentals_for_Legacy_PCs#Hardware_requirementsNov 07 18:00
XFaCEFaither: It's nominally based on 7 embedded, so from the looks of it, they have put less effort into the embedded version.Nov 07 18:01
Faither^^Nov 07 18:02
XFaCEFaither: Could you imagine if they tried to pull this shit with a distro like Lubuntu?Nov 07 18:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Regele meu http://ur1.ca/5oevl #romania #europe #politics #royal #monarchyNov 07 18:03
XFaCEAnswer: they couldn't, because I think a majority of the Free software community can engage in the rare art of critical thinkingNov 07 18:04
Faitherpretty much, yesNov 07 18:05
Faitherthey'll still fool those people who believe what's said in the advert as people get programmed by tv all the timeNov 07 18:06
Faitherand in the end it comes all down to marketing which is a sad Nov 07 18:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] That's weird, I swear I use "+" all the time. I'm officially dumbfounded :)Nov 07 18:09
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DaemonFCI don't think I'll ever have to worry about headlight bulbs on this car againNov 07 18:28
DaemonFCthe ones I just took out said August 1994 on themNov 07 18:28
DaemonFChttp://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=llvm3_gcc_open64&num=2Nov 07 18:30
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DaemonFCmore Clang lolsNov 07 18:31
DaemonFCapparently it does even worse on Opterons and i7s than it does on desktop CPUsNov 07 18:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Here we go. Marketeers and SEOs will now flood our timelines ... http://ur1.ca/5of96Nov 07 18:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] any particular reason for openbsd on your server?(my favourite bsd, but never really figured it for servers)Nov 07 18:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] About NORML - achieve the repeal of #marijuana prohibition so that the responsible use of #cannabis by adults... http://norml.orgNov 07 18:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @glynmoody If #WikiLeaks is dying, then the #NYT is partly to blame - http://bit.ly/sduLS8 definitely true, IMHONov 07 18:50
DaemonFChttp://distrowatch.com/?newsid=06975Nov 07 18:51
DaemonFCI still don't like the guy that runs this siteNov 07 18:51
DaemonFChe claimed Ubuntu Satanic Edition could be considered offensive and used the Ubuntu name without permissionNov 07 18:51
schestowitzLadislav?Nov 07 18:51
DaemonFCyet the same applies to Christian and MuslimNov 07 18:51
DaemonFCand those are listedNov 07 18:52
DaemonFCyeahNov 07 18:52
DaemonFCI emailed him about that a few years ago and he basically said it's his site, and I should get over itNov 07 18:52
DaemonFCokNov 07 18:52
DaemonFC:PNov 07 18:52
DaemonFCFuduntu is not "officially" a forkNov 07 18:53
DaemonFCwhat were they before? "Let's see how much proprietary crap and Mono we can add to Fedora"?Nov 07 18:53
DaemonFC*nowNov 07 18:53
schestowitzyeah\Nov 07 18:54
DaemonFCWhy are they listed on Distrowatch?Nov 07 18:54
DaemonFCanyone can take a Fedora ISO, add Flash, Mono, Docky, and Likewise OpenNov 07 18:55
MinceRLikewise Open?Nov 07 18:56
DaemonFChttps://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Likewise_OpenNov 07 18:57
DaemonFCit's under the GPL/LGPLNov 07 18:57
DaemonFCbut it lacks a lot of the features of Likewise, so it's more like open coreNov 07 18:57
MinceRicNov 07 18:57
DaemonFCas far as I know, it does less than you can accomplish with winbindNov 07 18:57
DaemonFCIt's one of those gateway drugs, they take free software and rebrand it as a path to their proprietary version which has Microsoft's taxNov 07 18:58
DaemonFCI use Samba, but not to "interop" with Windows systemsNov 07 18:59
DaemonFCSMB and CIFS are basically becoming the de facto standard on Linux systemsNov 07 19:00
DaemonFC(same thing, different names)Nov 07 19:00
DaemonFCI'm OK with thatNov 07 19:00
DaemonFCit's not like Microsoft invented SMBNov 07 19:01
MinceRi don't like thatNov 07 19:01
DaemonFCthey just use itNov 07 19:01
DaemonFCand extend itNov 07 19:01
MinceRsamba is a pain in the ass to configure, smbclient is a pain in the ass to useNov 07 19:01
DaemonFCKDE has good Samba configuration tools built in nowNov 07 19:05
DaemonFCthat's a recent thing thoughNov 07 19:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Linux Mint (based on Ubuntu), LMDE, Debian Testing itself and Arch Linux are all worthy alternatives to Ubuntu IMHO, based on your interestNov 07 19:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] RT @evan http://ur1.ca/5ofmm #StatusNet at #W3C social business jamNov 07 19:07
MinceRstill, behavior gets pretty random depending on arcane settings such as "lanman auth"Nov 07 19:07
DaemonFChttp://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc246482%28PROT.13%29.aspxNov 07 19:07
DaemonFCI'm still puzzled why Microsoft claims you need a license for an "open specification"Nov 07 19:07
MinceRand we have vastly superior protocols available for file transfer and network filesystemsNov 07 19:07
DaemonFC:)Nov 07 19:07
MinceRbecause it's m$-"open"Nov 07 19:08
MinceRthey'll call it anything if it makes you buy itNov 07 19:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Evento “Net Neutrality” « ISOC Portugal - http://ur1.ca/5ofod http://goo.gl/wGdr8Nov 07 19:08
DaemonFCgive with one hand and sue with the otherNov 07 19:08
MinceRalso, no patent licenses are grantedNov 07 19:09
MinceRonly the usual empty "promise"sNov 07 19:09
DaemonFCright, you get their promise not to sueNov 07 19:09
DaemonFCuntil they seed the patents to Intellectual VenturesNov 07 19:09
DaemonFCwhich will sue you on their behalfNov 07 19:09
MinceRwith a kazillion catches and strings attached, i'm sureNov 07 19:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] OK, that's a good sign.Nov 07 19:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] How many IP devices do you have at home? http://ur1.ca/5ofrv #networkNov 07 19:12
DaemonFCJoey-Elijah Sneddon, Editor of OMG! Ubuntu! CollapseNov 07 19:12
DaemonFCI believe it's legal issues. There's, well, a lot tied up inside in VLC that means Ubuntu can't ship with it out of the box without paying royalties/getting sued.Nov 07 19:12
DaemonFCThat and it's got a horrible interface.Nov 07 19:12
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DaemonFCRyan FarmerNov 07 19:12
DaemonFCI'm not sure why pretty trumps usable. GNOME users seem to have a magpie mind. Something glittery catches their eye until the next glittery thing shows up.Nov 07 19:12
DaemonFCVLC isn't glittery, but it can do a lot of things that Banshee can't and never will.Nov 07 19:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] The Darknet Project: netroots activists dream of global mesh network http://ur1.ca/5ofs7 #network #darknetNov 07 19:13
MinceRpretty trumps usable in the group that lusts after macos eternallyNov 07 19:13
MinceRno surprise thereNov 07 19:13
DaemonFCI should have said they have a magpie mind. They like anything that glitters. So Microsoft partners attach glittery things to IEDs set up to run on Linux.Nov 07 19:16
DaemonFC:)Nov 07 19:16
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DaemonFCMinceR: When the Russians invaded Afghanistan, I heard that they liked dropping toys for children to findNov 07 19:17
DaemonFCand attached to those toys was a small explosive device which would maim the child when they went to pick it upNov 07 19:17
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DaemonFCand the idea was that the child would then become a burden to their family who would have to give up time and resources fighting the Russians to take care of the injured childNov 07 19:18
MinceR:>Nov 07 19:18
MinceRwell, that's communists for youNov 07 19:18
DaemonFCa similar, though less ghoulish tactic has been used for many years with landminesNov 07 19:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] I tought I'd share with identi.ca this !diaspora image I made http://ur1.ca/5ofu6 :PNov 07 19:20
DaemonFCthey're not intended to kill, they're intended to blow off someone's leg or foot so that the enemy forces have to spend time and effort taking care of their wounded instead of progressingNov 07 19:20
DaemonFCMono and SMB/CIFS kind of reminds me of thatNov 07 19:20
DaemonFCjono goes and picks it up and tweets about how awesome it is to lure in other unsuspecting peopleNov 07 19:21
DaemonFCthen later, boomNov 07 19:21
DaemonFCand Microsoft has so many people, Linux distributors, etc. tied up in lawsuits that they can't make progress with their productsNov 07 19:21
DaemonFCand maybe even go out of business from legal defense costsNov 07 19:21
DaemonFCThere's a few mono proponents who have taken it upon themselves to create a lot of sockpuppet accounts on various sitesNov 07 19:22
DaemonFCand do protest the removal of Mono from Ubuntu, loudly as they canNov 07 19:22
DaemonFCMinceR: The bait and blow up strategy is pretty effective in warNov 07 19:24
DaemonFCeven in online war-type gamesNov 07 19:24
DaemonFCplace a bunch of mines next to a target that looks tempting and undefendedNov 07 19:24
DaemonFCand let the enemy tanks roll in right on top of the minesNov 07 19:24
DaemonFCit worked well enough for me in War Commander that I don't get attacked much anymoreNov 07 19:25
DaemonFCbecause the other players wonder which target is payday and which one is the trapNov 07 19:25
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DaemonFCconditional behavior modification :)Nov 07 19:25
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DaemonFCanother thing I like to do is spend down all my resources before I leave the game for a whileNov 07 19:27
DaemonFCso if someone does attack, they lose a lot of their units and don't leave with enough resources to cover their lossNov 07 19:28
DaemonFC:)Nov 07 19:28
DaemonFCI'm not a very tempting target to attackNov 07 19:28
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DaemonFCWalmart had some expensive headlight bulbs that pushed the limit of state law, I noticedNov 07 19:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] This does actually work http://ur1.ca/5og18Nov 07 19:35
DaemonFCjust what I want, bulbs that are three times as expensive, have a third the life expectancy, blind oncoming traffic, and get me pulled over by cops who think I have my brights onNov 07 19:35
DaemonFCand maybe, just maybe, fry the wiringNov 07 19:35
DaemonFC:DNov 07 19:35
schestowitzFFS..Nov 07 19:36
schestowitzSome shortest paths code..Nov 07 19:36
schestowitzOnly compiled for win32Nov 07 19:36
schestowitzI can't use this trashNov 07 19:36
DaemonFCschestowitz: For as much of a pain in the ass as Ford makes nearly every parts replacement....Nov 07 19:37
DaemonFCI went out there with a 153 piece mechanics toolkitNov 07 19:37
DaemonFCand only ended up needing a flathead screwdriverNov 07 19:37
DaemonFCthey're fucking with meNov 07 19:38
DaemonFCI know they areNov 07 19:38
schestowitz"you do not have to compile anything; the algorithm is already available as C library (it has _debug and _release versions)...."Nov 07 19:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] yet another #BlogPost, I'm on a roll :D(this time a promise to try and document Xt/XAW later) http://ur1.ca/5og34Nov 07 19:38
schestowitz"only Windows version of the library is provided. If you need them on other operating systems, you are on your own"Nov 07 19:38
DaemonFCanything else on that car you need metric wrenches, US customary unit wrenchesNov 07 19:38
DaemonFCtools they only sell to dealers that I got on ebayNov 07 19:38
DaemonFCB-)Nov 07 19:38
DaemonFCI'm almost at a loss for wordsNov 07 19:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Lego army invades Chalkfestival to "Free" Ego Leonard - http://bit.ly/swEPwj wonderful triumph of art & scienceNov 07 19:40
DaemonFCsomeone used a slim jim on my door several years ago to pry it openNov 07 19:41
DaemonFCand the interior door assembly finally finished coming apart because of that the other dayNov 07 19:41
DaemonFCso I'm calling around, everywhere, including junk yardsNov 07 19:41
DaemonFCif I did it myself the part was going to be $100 out of a junkyardNov 07 19:42
DaemonFCso I grabbed a roll of duct tape and did a $1 job myselfNov 07 19:42
DaemonFCand the results are, usable :)Nov 07 19:42
DaemonFCschestowitz: Who the hell says "Oh, no, don't steal the neighbor's GTO, pick on that guy with a 1995 Ford Taurus?"Nov 07 19:43
DaemonFCI mean, come onNov 07 19:43
DaemonFCthere's nothing in that car worth stealingNov 07 19:44
DaemonFCI have to figure someone was going to take it on a drug run and abandon it somewhere in Kentucky like they did with my cousin's carNov 07 19:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Hacker (programmer subculture) - Wikipedia - http://goo.gl/nhg5ANov 07 19:45
DaemonFCshe reported her car stolen, and a week later they found it abandoned in a Taco Bell parking lot in KentuckyNov 07 19:45
DaemonFC:)Nov 07 19:45
DaemonFCjono: I saw those pictures of you at Occupy UDSNov 07 19:46
DaemonFCprotesting Fedora 17 in your hot dog suitNov 07 19:46
DaemonFCclever :)Nov 07 19:47
DaemonFC"We are the 1%" (on servers)Nov 07 19:48
DaemonFCThe 99% (Red Hat) is being unfair!Nov 07 19:48
DaemonFChttp://www.amazon.com/Philips-9007-EcoVision-Headlight-Bulb/dp/B00480KPF8Nov 07 19:49
DaemonFCLight bulbs that improve your gas mileage?Nov 07 19:50
*DaemonFC doubts thisNov 07 19:50
DaemonFChttp://www.amazon.com/Sylvania-9007-EB-HB5-TWIN/dp/B00318V0Q6Nov 07 19:51
DaemonFCI suspect they are the same bulbs in a different package Nov 07 19:52
DaemonFCpriced $7 more to attract eco-hippies that don't understand that light bulbs aren't going to affect gas mileageNov 07 19:52
DaemonFCdo they really have to greenwash everything these days just to pull in those idiot dollars?Nov 07 19:52
DaemonFC"Save Money - from $2 to $19 in gas over the life of a pair."Nov 07 19:53
DaemonFCThey forget to mention the life of the pair is probably more than 10 yearsNov 07 19:53
DaemonFC:)Nov 07 19:53
DaemonFCand that the pair is $7 more than the standard partNov 07 19:53
DaemonFC"Costs you money! Potentially lose 50 cents per year in excess bulb cost by being a smug asshole"Nov 07 19:54
DaemonFC"EcoBright bulbs are mercury free, cadmium free, and lead free."Nov 07 19:55
DaemonFCtrue, so are the standard onesNov 07 19:55
DaemonFC"Carbon Dioxide (CO2) emissions are reduced from 13 to 107 lbs. over the life of a pair."Nov 07 19:55
DaemonFCWhich is probably nullified by a more complex manufacturing methodNov 07 19:55
DaemonFC"Sylvania calls this commitment to responsible manufacturing, Global Care."Nov 07 19:56
*DaemonFC calls it greenwashingNov 07 19:56
DaemonFCthe same company makes "eco-friendly" light bulbs for the home that are full of mercury and pose a respiratory hazard if brokenNov 07 19:57
-Martinp23-[Global Notice] Hi everyone. You may know that we run a separate network for the purpose of testing future ircd versions. If you'd like to help test by checking for consistency between versions (eg, information visibility etc), join testnet.freenode.net port 9002 (ssl: 9003). Talk to us in #freenode-seven on the production network. Thanks, and have a great evening.Nov 07 19:57
DaemonFC:)Nov 07 19:57
DaemonFCUS law mandates these bulbs over the next few yearsNov 07 19:57
DaemonFCMinceR: I noticed an amusing thing in my video gameNov 07 19:58
DaemonFCthe suicide bombers have an arabic accent and shout "Allahu Akbar!" when you tell them to blow something upNov 07 19:59
DaemonFC:)Nov 07 19:59
DaemonFCI wonder if that is PC enough for schestowitzNov 07 19:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #MongoDB: FUD or Hoax controversy spreads online - The H Open Source #flossnews http://goo.gl/FLB5ZNov 07 20:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Interesting to see Red Hat as #7 in Most Innovative Growth Companies by Forbes. http://ur1.ca/5mzfjNov 07 20:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Yes, Blackboard now supports CC BY licensing. Help us support open education everywhere. Donate at http://creativecommons.net/donate/Nov 07 20:05
azalynDaemonFC: well then, don't break the god damned things.Nov 07 20:05
azalyni don't even remember the last time a bulb broke in our house. even the regular kind.Nov 07 20:05
XFaCEDaemonFC: Time for FreeBulbsNov 07 20:05
azalynCFLs have much thicker glass.Nov 07 20:05
azalynthey don't break as easily.Nov 07 20:06
azalynalthough long-term, LED lights are best.Nov 07 20:06
DaemonFCyeah, if you want a $30 bulb that puts out 10% as much lightNov 07 20:07
DaemonFCB-)Nov 07 20:07
DaemonFChttp://distrowatch.com/images/screenshots/mint-12-preview.pngNov 07 20:08
DaemonFCwowNov 07 20:08
DaemonFCbarely recognizable Nov 07 20:08
azalynalso, lights could improve your gas mileage.. everything in a car is powered by the fuel.Nov 07 20:08
azalynso it's certainly possible.Nov 07 20:08
DaemonFCthe alternator is working pretty hard while the car is on anywayNov 07 20:08
DaemonFCI doubt a light bulb is going to make a differenceNov 07 20:08
azalyni'm not denying that greenwashing happens. but then there's people on the complete other end of the spectrum who are just plain anti-technology...Nov 07 20:09
azalynanything new is shunned.Nov 07 20:09
DaemonFCthe condition of your alternator and wiring are the biggest causes of how much fuel is usedNov 07 20:09
DaemonFCalso, the batteryNov 07 20:09
XFaCEDaemonFC: Already posted that screenshot here.Nov 07 20:09
XFaCEYou soo slow!Nov 07 20:10
DaemonFCold battery = alternator is running at 100% all the time just trying to keep the thing chargedNov 07 20:10
DaemonFCwhich will lead to your alternator failing soonerNov 07 20:10
XFaCEDaemonFC: [12:15] <XFaCE> msb__: May just be me, but does anybody else find this http://distrowatch.com/images/screenshots/mint-12-preview.png unappealing?Nov 07 20:10
azalynevery little bit matters though..Nov 07 20:10
XFaCEDaemonFC: I guess you doNov 07 20:10
DaemonFCit's newNov 07 20:11
DaemonFCit will probably get better before they release itNov 07 20:11
azalynalso, LEDs are not as dim as you suggest. they are more efficient even given the same output.Nov 07 20:11
DaemonFCI already like it more than the vanilla shellNov 07 20:11
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azalyneven CFLs are a decent compromise. just don't use them as hockey pucks and you're fine.Nov 07 20:12
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XFaCE__woot funnNov 07 20:12
XFaCE__schestowitz: We have no room operators!Nov 07 20:14
DaemonFCComrade MinceR Nov 07 20:15
DaemonFCThe Hungarian revolutionaryNov 07 20:15
XFaCE__DaemonFC: He's away, geniusNov 07 20:15
DaemonFCtrying to fill Stalin's BootsNov 07 20:15
DaemonFCB-)Nov 07 20:15
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XFaCEhi XFaCE_Nov 07 20:15
XFaCEHow are you, my ghost self?Nov 07 20:16
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XFaCEDaemonFC: Even I don't like me. :(Nov 07 20:16
DaemonFCgod damn itNov 07 20:16
DaemonFCis Gtalk the ONLY reliable XMPP server?Nov 07 20:16
schestowitzXFaCE:  ban XFaCE_Nov 07 20:16
XFaCEschestowitz: He's flawed, but give him a second chance!Nov 07 20:17
schestowitzyour evil twin bro?Nov 07 20:17
XFaCEschestowitz: He's flawed, but give him a second chance VirtualBox with network componentsNov 07 20:17
XFaCEoopsNov 07 20:18
XFaCEThat didn't come out rightNov 07 20:18
DaemonFChttp://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/CAPTCHA-schemes-still-easy-to-bypass-1371934.htmlNov 07 20:18
XFaCEoh well, what I saidNov 07 20:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] RT @wikipedia @SteveMartinToGo Please stop editing your Wikipedia page to say "best hair in the history of the world." Need NPOV http:// ...Nov 07 20:19
azalyncaptcha's are getting hard enough that i can't even understand them myself..Nov 07 20:19
azalynthe example on that page is one that i can't read for example..Nov 07 20:19
DaemonFCthat was bound to happenNov 07 20:19
azalynthe green one..Nov 07 20:19
DaemonFCand even when they can't crack them, they evade them with human laborNov 07 20:20
DaemonFCporn sites for exampleNov 07 20:20
XFaCEschestowitz: What I was trying to say was, more like a side effect of VirtualBox installationNov 07 20:20
azalynwhotvihck ?Nov 07 20:20
DaemonFCset up to make users enter captchas to view pornNov 07 20:20
schestowitzhmm.. firefox in google has a new page preview thing... is that new? Also gives PDF previews on hoverNov 07 20:20
DaemonFCbut the captcha is really on Wikipedia or somethingNov 07 20:20
azalynthat part after 'who'Nov 07 20:20
azalyni have a hard time reading thatNov 07 20:20
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DaemonFC43% success rate on Wikipedia seems to be about what a human could doNov 07 20:23
azalyni didn't even know wikipedia had captcha. i don't contribute to wikipedia.Nov 07 20:24
azalynso i'm not sure what their captcha's look like.Nov 07 20:24
XFaCEschestowitz: I'm pretty sure it's a Google thing (browser independent)[Nov 07 20:28
schestowitznopeNov 07 20:29
schestowitzdoesn't work in konqNov 07 20:29
schestowitzand I didn't try many browsersNov 07 20:29
XFaCEschestowitz: Hmm, I could have sworn using Opera and having a  preview occurNov 07 20:32
DaemonFChttp://phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?64578-USA-China-makes-biggest-jump-ever-in-polluting-global-warming-gases&p=237509&posted=1#post237509Nov 07 20:32
XFaCEDaemonFC: Why is that on Phoronix?Nov 07 20:33
DaemonFCno ideaNov 07 20:33
schestowitzit's the forumNov 07 20:33
XFaCEDaemonFC: Air-conditioned beach huh?Nov 07 20:33
schestowitznot an editorial choiceNov 07 20:33
XFaCEDaemonFC: So what, beach-in-a-box?Nov 07 20:34
DaemonFCeco assholesNov 07 20:34
DaemonFCtelling me to change my lightbulbs and drive a toy carNov 07 20:34
schestowitzwhat are eco assholesNov 07 20:34
DaemonFCwhile Dubai air conditions an open beachNov 07 20:34
schestowitzassholes that emit no methane?Nov 07 20:34
schestowitzDaemonFC: Dubai? Link?Nov 07 20:35
DaemonFChttp://www.usatoday.com/travel/hotels/2008-12-26-dubai-versace-hotel_N.htmNov 07 20:35
schestowitzyou probably exaggerate something about a VIP area...Nov 07 20:35
schestowitzhotelNov 07 20:35
schestowitzprobably very expensiveNov 07 20:35
schestowitzDaemonFC: your grandma in FL puts on her A/C with the windows openNov 07 20:36
schestowitzand she's one personNov 07 20:36
DaemonFCnoNov 07 20:36
schestowitzsogo ahead justice thatNov 07 20:36
DaemonFCmy grandma in Indiana sets the heat to fucking 100 degreesNov 07 20:36
DaemonFCthen leaves the front door openNov 07 20:36
schestowitzshe helps warm the EarthNov 07 20:36
DaemonFCmy mom in Indiana turns the air conditioner to 65 and leaves the windows open in the supperNov 07 20:36
schestowitzAnd her houseNov 07 20:36
DaemonFC*summerNov 07 20:37
DaemonFCold people get cold easilyNov 07 20:37
schestowitzsupper LOLNov 07 20:37
DaemonFCwomen in menopause get hot flashesNov 07 20:37
schestowitzThat couldn't have been a typographical errorNov 07 20:37
DaemonFCI have no idea why I typed thatNov 07 20:37
DaemonFCanyway, women and old peopleNov 07 20:38
DaemonFCthe problemsNov 07 20:38
DaemonFCas usualNov 07 20:38
DaemonFCB-)Nov 07 20:38
schestowitzone group can include another thoughNov 07 20:38
DaemonFCrightNov 07 20:38
schestowitzIt's like saying "males" and childrenNov 07 20:38
DaemonFCit's like, global warmingNov 07 20:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @carolaik On display till Nov.27th: Victory! Banned on the Hill Opening Ottawa http://ur1.ca/5ogt1 via @frankejames !CDNpoli #enviroARTNov 07 20:39
DaemonFCcaused by 90 year old going 10 miles an hour with their left turn signal on all the wayNov 07 20:39
DaemonFCbacking up traffic Nov 07 20:39
DaemonFCB-)Nov 07 20:39
DaemonFCin a hurry to get home to where the heater is set to 100 degreesNov 07 20:39
DaemonFCso they can leave the door openNov 07 20:39
XFaCEDaemonFC: Toy cars aren't so bad.Nov 07 20:40
DaemonFCif you got all the fucking old people off the road, traffic would move fasterNov 07 20:40
DaemonFCand there would be less engines idling while the car they were in got stuck behind one of themNov 07 20:41
DaemonFCgod damn it, I'm a genius Nov 07 20:41
DaemonFC:)Nov 07 20:41
DaemonFCit's like I was struck by divine revelation the last time I tried to drive anywhereNov 07 20:41
DaemonFConly to get stuck and burn an extra gallon of gas on the way to Walmart because I got skin cancer while waiting under the sun going 5 miles an hour behind a 90 year old woman hunched over her steering wheel like she was giving birth to itNov 07 20:43
DaemonFC"Well, you can't complain because they're old and senile, you'll get there too some day"Nov 07 20:43
DaemonFCFuck you, yes I can, and if I ever do, please shoot me in the headNov 07 20:43
DaemonFCbefore I start thinking it's 50 years ago while I paint the walls in shitNov 07 20:44
XFaCEDaemonFC: Or, as Seinfeld once said, why not have older people drive their age?Nov 07 20:46
XFaCEAs in, the min speed limit for them is their ageNov 07 20:46
XFaCE:)Nov 07 20:46
DaemonFCthey do sometimes, when they forget which pedal does what and run over some kidsNov 07 20:46
DaemonFCwhich is awesomeNov 07 20:46
DaemonFCand they need a car with a V8 engine for when that happensNov 07 20:47
DaemonFC:)Nov 07 20:47
XFaCEhttp://daemonfc.wordpress.com/2011/11/06/amd-fires-1400-workers-who-is-in-danger-if-amd-disappears/Nov 07 20:48
XFaCEvery good pointsNov 07 20:48
DaemonFChttps://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Grey_DawnNov 07 20:49
DaemonFCbest. South Park. Ever.Nov 07 20:49
XFaCEDaemonFC: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuXIuD4M2esNov 07 20:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @bobjonkman Never delete anything: Blogging about Blogging Etiquette - Deletions http://ur1.ca/5ogp6Nov 07 20:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxconfau/@linuxconfau] In case you missed it! Will keynote speaker Paul Fenwick (@pjf ) hack your brain at http://t.co/W4lviGhs? #LCA2012 http://t.co/Ebc7b8vENov 07 20:55
DaemonFCXFaCE: LMFAO!Nov 07 20:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] !jabberes is back, baby! [bender] xDNov 07 21:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Nice. Six reasons to use Fedora 16 coming out Nov 8 2011 - http://ur1.ca/5oh6zNov 07 21:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] The Complete Book of Self Sufficiency | Free eBooks - #preppers #books http://goo.gl/tWkQMNov 07 21:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Good to see @evan speaking at "W3C Social Business Jam" - http://ur1.ca/5ohg0Nov 07 21:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] That's it!Nov 07 21:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] ancient thinking about "oh, social networking is dangerous - look at the untruths". sigh. #jtc1plenaryNov 07 21:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] LedgerSMB.Org | Community developed Open Source accounting software - #flosstools #enterprise #erp http://ur1.ca/5ohmuNov 07 21:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is kevie with 83 dents!Nov 07 21:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] you may be right but I'm trying to stave off the #KLOUT virus anyway : possible remedies: http://ur1.ca/5odi7Nov 07 21:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Check out this cool project: "Communicating research as Beethoven suggested" - http://goo.gl/4UCLE #SciFundNov 07 21:57
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schestowitzreparing to compile http://code.google.com/p/geodesic/wiki/ExactGeodesic for Linux...Nov 07 22:27
schestowitzpreparing to compile http://code.google.com/p/geodesic/wiki/ExactGeodesic for Linux...Nov 07 22:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Stable kernels 2.6.32.47 and 2.6.33.20 http://ur1.ca/5oi1cNov 07 22:40
MinceRgnNov 07 22:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Sorry for the slow performance.Nov 07 23:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !Copyright interest piqued by phrase in #ENVIROArtist @frankejames Freedom of Info docs ... "authorizing the use of the Canada wordmark" ???Nov 07 23:18
schestowitzok, well tomorrow there will be lots of time available for news and postsNov 07 23:26
schestowitztoday was a tad hecticNov 07 23:26
schestowitzhttp://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2011/nov/07/best-buy-uk-five-reasons-it-failed?newsfeed=trueNov 07 23:27
schestowitzhttp://www.overclock.net/windows/569458-microsoft-attack-linux-retail-level-probably.htmlNov 07 23:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] This is a terrific... blog ? Infographic ? Digital Mural? Story? as told by @frankejames http://ur1.ca/5oip1 !Canada #EnviroART #FREEspeechNov 07 23:57

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