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| XFaCE | Ah, black friday | Nov 26 01:19 |
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| XFaCE | also know as "how to derail OWS by showing the worst aspects of the American population | Nov 26 01:20 |
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| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/aletorto/statuses/140099248397094913 http://twitter.com/LucianSavluc/statuses/140123400625586176 | Nov 26 01:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @aletorto: Access to Knowledge in the Age of Sharing http://t.co/l3FPmAjE / Acceso al conocimiento en la era del compartir | Nov 26 01:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Nov 26 01:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @LucianSavluc: Worth reading: "When PR campaigns determine who wins and who loses, then.." http://t.co/hIZumkRb | #politics #software #politicians #freedom | Nov 26 01:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Nov 26 01:55 |
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| **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Nov 26 03:01:34 2011 | ||
| *Now talking on #techrights | Nov 26 03:01 | |
| *Topic for #techrights is: TechRights.org | Channel #techrights for http://TechRights.org | Free Software Sentry – watching and reporting maneuvers of those who oppose software freedom | Nov 26 03:01 | |
| *Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Wed Sep 22 21:19:38 2010 | Nov 26 03:01 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxconfau/@linuxconfau] A huge shout out to all our Volunteers! Thanks If you're considering volunteering for #LCA2012, we have more info http://bit.ly/tRLmho | Nov 26 03:32 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Volunteer - linux.conf.au 2012 | 16 - 20 Jan | Under the stars .::. Size~: 23.2 KB | Nov 26 03:32 |
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| sebsebseb | http://identi.ca/notice/85749653 | Nov 26 03:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Sebastian (sebsebseb)'s status on Saturday, 26-Nov-11 03:53:42 UTC - Identi.ca: Later than intended, but about to download 32bit !Mageia 2 Alpha 1 #Gnome and #KDE CD ISO's! #Mageia http://ur1.ca/62rdr | Nov 26 03:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> Title: Mageia 2 Alpha 1 – ready for testing! | Mageia Blog (English) .::. Size~: 21.68 KB | Nov 26 03:56 |
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| cubezzz | groklaw's got some interesting stuff on Microsoft's destruction of WP | Nov 26 04:22 |
| cubezzz | lawsuit started in 2004 | Nov 26 04:28 |
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| schestowitz | yeah | Nov 26 04:46 |
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| XFaCE_ | hi prurigro | Nov 26 05:41 |
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| prurigro | XFaCE_: heyhey- how goes? | Nov 26 05:52 |
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| *prurigro gives voice to schestowitz schestowitz_log | Nov 26 05:53 | |
| *prurigro gives voice to Diablo-D3 | Nov 26 05:53 | |
| XFaCE | prurigro: Xchat has been reinstalled, tweaked and working beautifully | Nov 26 05:53 |
| XFaCE | looks good too | Nov 26 05:53 |
| prurigro | schweet-- any idea what the problem was? | Nov 26 05:53 |
| XFaCE | Yeah, can't upgrade a portable install by just overwriting everything :P | Nov 26 05:53 |
| prurigro | oh it was from portable apps? | Nov 26 05:54 |
| XFaCE | nah, it was direct from the author | Nov 26 05:54 |
| XFaCE | of XChat-WDK | Nov 26 05:54 |
| prurigro | oh word-- what do you mean portable install then? | Nov 26 05:54 |
| prurigro | unmanaged? | Nov 26 05:55 |
| XFaCE | doesn't effect registry, self-contained profile | Nov 26 05:55 |
| XFaCE | so basically a portable app, just without the portableapps.com format | Nov 26 05:55 |
| XFaCE | this is a full install now | Nov 26 05:55 |
| XFaCE | prurigro: Droid Sans Mono makes a great console font for Xchat | Nov 26 05:56 |
| prurigro | droid sans mono eh? | Nov 26 05:57 |
| Brendan_T | your on windows? | Nov 26 05:57 |
| prurigro | where'd you get that one? | Nov 26 05:57 |
| XFaCE | Brendan_T: Please don't remind :( | Nov 26 05:57 |
| XFaCE | prurigro: Debian repos | Nov 26 05:57 |
| XFaCE | or Ubuntu, can't remember which | Nov 26 05:57 |
| XFaCE | doesn't really matter | Nov 26 05:57 |
| XFaCE | which | Nov 26 05:57 |
| prurigro | XFaCE: interesting-- funny, linux users used to rely on windows for nice fonts :) | Nov 26 05:57 |
| XFaCE | yep | Nov 26 05:58 |
| XFaCE | lol | Nov 26 05:58 |
| XFaCE | There's a lot of good Free fonts out there | Nov 26 05:58 |
| XFaCE | Futura inspired ones for example | Nov 26 05:58 |
| Brendan_T | i use anonymous pro, as monospace font | Nov 26 05:58 |
| XFaCE | Droid fonts are really well designed | Nov 26 05:58 |
| prurigro | Neutraface 2, the official font of the Department of Foreign Affairs and International Trade, is the only one I've found that rivals the sans family in *nix | Nov 26 05:58 |
| Brendan_T | though ive never compared it, i just picked it and left it | Nov 26 05:59 |
| XFaCE | prurigro: Makes the interface look all Android-ish :D | Nov 26 05:59 |
| prurigro | haha, interseting-- got a screencap? | Nov 26 05:59 |
| XFaCE | one sec | Nov 26 06:00 |
| XFaCE | I think I also solved the cloak problem | Nov 26 06:00 |
| XFaCE | It should always apply the cloak before joining from now on | Nov 26 06:00 |
| prurigro | oh? | Nov 26 06:01 |
| XFaCE | sometimes it didn't | Nov 26 06:01 |
| XFaCE | thus rendering it rather ineffective | Nov 26 06:01 |
| XFaCE | prurigro: cloak is the actual name of what I previously called a "mask" | Nov 26 06:01 |
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| prurigro | haha, yea, I'd just figured that out-- I suppose I'd see the results if I whois'd you? | Nov 26 06:02 |
| XFaCE | you always could | Nov 26 06:02 |
| XFaCE | but when rejoining, say after suspending the computer, it would not apply the mask before joining the channel, thus revealing the IP address for a brief time | Nov 26 06:03 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC: My Xchat has droid fonts. Ha | Nov 26 06:04 |
| DaemonFC | My Android IRC chat has Droid fonts | Nov 26 06:04 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Nov 26 06:04 |
| XFaCE | So I still win... | Nov 26 06:04 |
| DaemonFC | I picked up one of those $80 Android tablets at Walmart | Nov 26 06:04 |
| XFaCE | lol, what brand? | Nov 26 06:04 |
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| DaemonFC | Pandigital | Nov 26 06:05 |
| prurigro | 80 bucks?! | Nov 26 06:05 |
| DaemonFC | yeah | Nov 26 06:05 |
| prurigro | lol | Nov 26 06:05 |
| XFaCE | !google pandigital | Nov 26 06:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Pandigital » Home | http://www.pandigital.net/ | Nov 26 06:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Pandigital » Pandigital Novel eReaders | http://www.pandigital.net/pandigitalnovel | Nov 26 06:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Pandigital » Customer Service | http://www.pandigital.net/support | Nov 26 06:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Amazon.com: PanDigital 72-70FW 7-Inch Tablet Computer - White ... | http://www.amazon.com/PanDigital-72-70FW-7-Inch-Tablet-Computer/dp/B004QRIUOG | Nov 26 06:05 |
| DaemonFC | Androidhttp://pandigital.net/search.asp?productid=484 | Nov 26 06:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Media Tablets | Pandigital SuperNova - 8" Media Tablet .::. Size~: 61.16 KB | Nov 26 06:06 |
| DaemonFC | the hell | Nov 26 06:06 |
| DaemonFC | fucking Firefox | Nov 26 06:06 |
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| XFaCE | DaemonFC: The Android tablet for the rest of us? What is this, 1984 Apple? | Nov 26 06:06 |
| DaemonFC | It came with Android 2.3 | Nov 26 06:07 |
| DaemonFC | but immediately offered an upgrade | Nov 26 06:07 |
| DaemonFC | to 3.2 | Nov 26 06:07 |
| DaemonFC | it's not bad for $80 | Nov 26 06:07 |
| Brendan_T | ;/ its as if sorting movie torrents by least popular first gets you better quality ones than most popular first | Nov 26 06:09 |
| Brendan_T | oh wait, its true | Nov 26 06:09 |
| DaemonFC | it gets you thrown into federal prison to be cornholed for costing them $5 | Nov 26 06:09 |
| DaemonFC | -FBI warning | Nov 26 06:09 |
| Brendan_T | im a pirate, they dont own the sea | Nov 26 06:10 |
| DaemonFC | my step dad and I went Christmas shopping | Nov 26 06:10 |
| Brendan_T | no land lubbers gonna stop me | Nov 26 06:10 |
| DaemonFC | he asked me what he should get my mom for an e-reader | Nov 26 06:10 |
| DaemonFC | so I told him the B&N Nook | Nov 26 06:11 |
| prurigro | DaemonFC: do you find owning a tablet has caused you to accidentally stab other LCD screens in your environment? | Nov 26 06:11 |
| DaemonFC | so we went 50/50 on it | Nov 26 06:11 |
| DaemonFC | this isn't going to be a huge Christmas because everyone is broke | Nov 26 06:11 |
| DaemonFC | but heh | Nov 26 06:11 |
| DaemonFC | thought that counts :) | Nov 26 06:11 |
| DaemonFC | yes | Nov 26 06:11 |
| Brendan_T | is it actually a good ebook reader? | Nov 26 06:11 |
| DaemonFC | I confused my 26" LED | Nov 26 06:12 |
| DaemonFC | with KDE displayed | Nov 26 06:12 |
| DaemonFC | as some sort of tablet | Nov 26 06:12 |
| DaemonFC | and stabbed it to death with an icepick | Nov 26 06:12 |
| prurigro | lol | Nov 26 06:12 |
| DaemonFC | which I mistook for a stylus | Nov 26 06:12 |
| Brendan_T | "Breakthrough E Ink® display for the best just-like-paper reading—even in bright sun—with our proprietary Best-Text Technology" | Nov 26 06:13 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/880648 | Nov 26 06:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Nov 26 06:14 |
| schestowitz | "Wow that was far from getting arrested, but I wonder how the officer managed to get rms out of the room... it says there he was just grabbed by the upper arm" | Nov 26 06:14 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC: so the pandigital is actually decent, unlike that Ars Technica-tested POS? | Nov 26 06:15 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/ky-sisters-to-get-social-security-cards-under-settlement-in-lawsuit/2011/11/23/gIQAtYWQoN_story.html | Nov 26 06:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Ky sisters to get Social Security cards under settlement in lawsuit - The Washington Post .::. Size~: 108.07 KB | Nov 26 06:17 |
| DaemonFC | Raechel, 29, was born at a home in Madison County, Ky., near where the family lives now; Stephanie, 23, was delivered in the back of a Dodge van in southern Alabama. The births were recorded in a family Bible but were otherwise not documented. | Nov 26 06:17 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uzae_SqbmDE | Nov 26 06:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Deliverance - Banjo Duel - YouTube .::. Size~: 93.47 KB | Nov 26 06:17 |
| XFaCE | !google znc server | Nov 26 06:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - ZNC | http://znc.in/ | Nov 26 06:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - FAQ - ZNC | http://wiki.znc.in/FAQ | Nov 26 06:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Configuration - ZNC | http://wiki.znc.in/Configuration | Nov 26 06:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - ZNC - Amahi | http://wiki.amahi.org/index.php/ZNC | Nov 26 06:17 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hX0gW64ZvJbkcMpQ5XNQSrRrTW2Q?docId=74eca14708ea4c8a91071b686de5125f | Nov 26 06:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The Associated Press: Lawmakers seek Social Security check protections .::. Size~: 32.65 KB | Nov 26 06:21 |
| DaemonFC | XFaCE: It's more than I expected for $80 | Nov 26 06:21 |
| DaemonFC | but better tablets exist if you pay more | Nov 26 06:22 |
| DaemonFC | A recent Philadelphia case found that a woman accused of locking mentally disabled people in a squalid basement was able to cash their benefit checks without being discovered by authorities. | Nov 26 06:22 |
| DaemonFC | For years, paroled murderer Linda Ann Weston brought several mentally challenged adults into Social Security offices to sign off as their representative payee, someone who helps manage their monthly benefits of about $600 to $900, authorities have said. | Nov 26 06:22 |
| Brendan_T | nice protest | Nov 26 06:23 |
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| schestowitz | hi, Brendan_T | Nov 26 07:08 |
| schestowitz | sorry I've been so inactive in IRC... today I'll catch up with some news and rejoin a bit more | Nov 26 07:09 |
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| schestowitz | ben distracted lately | Nov 26 07:09 |
| schestowitz | *been | Nov 26 07:09 |
| schestowitz | We got a story for twchrights under embargo, to go live after Thanksgiving | Nov 26 07:09 |
| schestowitz | e | Nov 26 07:09 |
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| Diablo-D3 | heeee | Nov 26 07:11 |
| Diablo-D3 | my HN karma is 666 | Nov 26 07:11 |
| Brendan_T | :) | Nov 26 07:14 |
| koolhead17 | Diablo-D3: :P | Nov 26 07:14 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] i do hope that !Identica will include @replies in home timeline again | Nov 26 07:22 | |
| schestowitz | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geodesic | Nov 26 07:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Geodesic - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 70.68 KB | Nov 26 07:24 |
| schestowitz | Can I make James vanish from the pages? | Nov 26 07:25 |
| schestowitz | I press the X | Nov 26 07:25 |
| schestowitz | but he keeps coming back | Nov 26 07:25 |
| cubezzz | only money can make James vanish | Nov 26 07:27 |
| schestowitz | LMAO | Nov 26 07:27 |
| schestowitz | I think not | Nov 26 07:27 |
| schestowitz | If you feed him, he'll come back for more :-) | Nov 26 07:27 |
| schestowitz | Anyway, I'm joking, his group does deserve funding | Nov 26 07:28 |
| schestowitz | The Brins gave him half a million recently | Nov 26 07:28 |
| schestowitz | And some thing that might impact of wikipedia will cover Google, but never mind that.. | Nov 26 07:28 |
| schestowitz | The reason they do not allow advertising, either | Nov 26 07:28 |
| XFaCE | tired sleep goodnight | Nov 26 07:30 |
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| DaemonFC | http://news.softpedia.com/news/Eco-Disks-to-Get-Stuck-Into-Hundred-of-Macs-039-Slot-Loading-Drives-76658.shtml | Nov 26 07:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Eco-Disks to Get Stuck Into Hundred of Macs' Slot-Loading Drives - Softpedia .::. Size~: 46.35 KB | Nov 26 07:46 |
| DaemonFC | Macs choke on environmentally friendlier DVDs | Nov 26 07:46 |
| schestowitz | hey ryanstone | Nov 26 07:46 |
| schestowitz | "I'm a ryanstone cowboy.." | Nov 26 07:46 |
| DaemonFC | old article | Nov 26 07:50 |
| DaemonFC | you can tell because of the fact that he claimed Mac malware hasn't hit in a big way | Nov 26 07:50 |
| DaemonFC | which it has in the last year, on several occasions | Nov 26 07:51 |
| DaemonFC | Apple tried to deny and blame the user | Nov 26 07:51 |
| DaemonFC | a tactic Microsoft is known for | Nov 26 07:51 |
| DaemonFC | "It's not really a virus because..." | Nov 26 07:52 |
| DaemonFC | "It's the user's fault, because they did such and such" | Nov 26 07:52 |
| DaemonFC | http://news.softpedia.com/news/Linux-Mint-12-Has-Been-Released-Download-Now-236232.shtml | Nov 26 07:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Linux Mint 12 Has Been Released, Download Now - Softpedia .::. Size~: 79.98 KB | Nov 26 07:52 |
| schestowitz | is it *really* out now? | Nov 26 07:57 |
| schestowitz | I doubt it.. | Nov 26 07:57 |
| DaemonFC | it was | Nov 26 07:58 |
| DaemonFC | they leaked the final ISO | Nov 26 07:58 |
| DaemonFC | then removed it when people noticed | Nov 26 07:58 |
| schestowitz | http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Ubuntu-sets-out-accessibility-plans-for-12-04-1385188.html | Nov 26 08:00 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Ubuntu sets out accessibility plans for 12.04 - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 40.25 KB | Nov 26 08:00 |
| schestowitz | Ubuntu: even retards can use it (sarcasm) | Nov 26 08:00 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: well, not a good release date... Thanksgiving and all | Nov 26 08:01 |
| schestowitz | http://www.pcr-online.biz/news/read/linux-mint-dominates-ubuntu/027573 | Nov 26 08:02 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Linux Mint dominates Ubuntu | The latest news from the Computer and IT Industry | PC Retail .::. Size~: 52.62 KB | Nov 26 08:02 |
| DaemonFC | Family get togethers are overrated | Nov 26 08:03 |
| DaemonFC | "Praise Jesus!" followed by someone who won't shut up about their new iPad | Nov 26 08:03 |
| DaemonFC | *sigh* | Nov 26 08:03 |
| DaemonFC | I can't believe I share DNA with some of the people that show up at these | Nov 26 08:04 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: You ever feel like that around family? | Nov 26 08:04 |
| schestowitz | http://www.techspot.com/news/46401-ubuntu-popularity-in-downward-spiral-is-unity-to-blame.html | Nov 26 08:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Ubuntu popularity in downward spiral, is Unity to blame? - TechSpot News .::. Size~: 79.99 KB | Nov 26 08:05 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: no | Nov 26 08:07 |
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| schestowitz | depends on your understanding on genetics | Nov 26 08:07 |
| schestowitz | a lot of people have serious misconceptions about it | Nov 26 08:07 |
| schestowitz | For instance | Nov 26 08:07 |
| schestowitz | your siblings are more like you than your own kids | Nov 26 08:07 |
| DaemonFC | My brother is not much like me | Nov 26 08:08 |
| schestowitz | and you're not half each parent, you need to take more ancestors into account | Nov 26 08:08 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: neither is mine | Nov 26 08:08 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: maybe your mom had an affair with the postman !! :-) | Nov 26 08:08 |
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| schestowitz | http://zcint.co.uk/article/doom-3-released-under-gpl | Nov 26 08:09 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Doom 3 Source Code Released Under GPL .::. Size~: 9.08 KB | Nov 26 08:09 |
| schestowitz | great stuff... powerful cutting-edge engine now FOS | Nov 26 08:09 |
| schestowitz | GPL | Nov 26 08:09 |
| DaemonFC | no | Nov 26 08:09 |
| schestowitz | Carmack ftw | Nov 26 08:09 |
| DaemonFC | my brother is more like my dad with the weirdness | Nov 26 08:10 |
| schestowitz | what weirdness? | Nov 26 08:10 |
| schestowitz | Deviation from norms? | Nov 26 08:10 |
| DaemonFC | and resembles some of my mom's side of the family with the morbid obesity | Nov 26 08:10 |
| schestowitz | oh | Nov 26 08:10 |
| DaemonFC | he'll turn into Richard Stallman | Nov 26 08:10 |
| DaemonFC | if he's ever motivated enough | Nov 26 08:10 |
| schestowitz | that would be good | Nov 26 08:10 |
| schestowitz | we need more people like RMS out there | Nov 26 08:10 |
| DaemonFC | weirdos who are morbidly obese? | Nov 26 08:11 |
| schestowitz | to the point where they are considered normal and not eccentric :-) | Nov 26 08:11 |
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| schestowitz | RMS a weirdo? | Nov 26 08:11 |
| schestowitz | What make *you* any better? | Nov 26 08:11 |
| schestowitz | Gun-slinging cat owner | Nov 26 08:11 |
| DaemonFC | so? | Nov 26 08:11 |
| schestowitz | shootin' from the hip, looking for dudes :-) | Nov 26 08:12 |
| DaemonFC | I'm not someone who will make you want to crawl into a corner and die in public | Nov 26 08:12 |
| DaemonFC | RMS seems to be like a person who would | Nov 26 08:12 |
| schestowitz | huh? | Nov 26 08:12 |
| DaemonFC | "OK, who invited this nutcase" | Nov 26 08:12 |
| DaemonFC | nobody wants to claim ownership of that one | Nov 26 08:12 |
| schestowitz | invited talk :-) | Nov 26 08:12 |
| schestowitz | RMS is interesing | Nov 26 08:13 |
| schestowitz | he has academic/scholarly insights on issues | Nov 26 08:13 |
| schestowitz | If you want a mind-provoking convo, turn to RMS | Nov 26 08:13 |
| schestowitz | BTW, I never met him face to face even though I went to his talk once | Nov 26 08:13 |
| DaemonFC | What does he do for a living other than bitch about people using their computers? | Nov 26 08:13 |
| schestowitz | For some reason he wrongly thought I was an Aussie | Nov 26 08:14 |
| DaemonFC | seems all he does is complain about people using their computer | Nov 26 08:14 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: he created GNU | Nov 26 08:14 |
| schestowitz | and the GPL | Nov 26 08:14 |
| schestowitz | And emacs.. | Nov 26 08:14 |
| DaemonFC | "Here, use something that doesn't work instead" | Nov 26 08:14 |
| schestowitz | it does work though | Nov 26 08:14 |
| schestowitz | Today I rooted a VM | Nov 26 08:14 |
| DaemonFC | anyone who claims Trisquel or Gnewsense work have obviously never tried it | Nov 26 08:14 |
| schestowitz | CentOS | Nov 26 08:14 |
| DaemonFC | maybe with ancient hardware | Nov 26 08:14 |
| schestowitz | Using gnu tools | Nov 26 08:14 |
| schestowitz | for benevolent purposes... fixing /etc/passwd perm | Nov 26 08:15 |
| schestowitz | so tired now... | Nov 26 08:15 |
| schestowitz | been up all night | Nov 26 08:15 |
| DaemonFC | if you have to go back far enough to find something that works with the OS, that you're blowing dust off of it in layers... | Nov 26 08:15 |
| DaemonFC | it's probably some OS the FSF recommends | Nov 26 08:15 |
| schestowitz | recommends? | Nov 26 08:15 |
| schestowitz | I think they use another word | Nov 26 08:15 |
| schestowitz | approved? | Nov 26 08:16 |
| DaemonFC | mandates | Nov 26 08:16 |
| schestowitz | lol | Nov 26 08:16 |
| schestowitz | nop | Nov 26 08:16 |
| DaemonFC | in a non mandatory go fuck yourself kind of non-binding sense of the term | Nov 26 08:16 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Nov 26 08:16 |
| schestowitz | hey, DaemonFC, what do you get if you put a brain in Gonad, RMS? | Nov 26 08:16 |
| DaemonFC | In a "When you buy me a computer you can set conditions on what I use it for" kind of way | Nov 26 08:16 |
| schestowitz | it's important to have those elements in the community too | Nov 26 08:17 |
| schestowitz | Hey gets flak | Nov 26 08:17 |
| DaemonFC | If I want to develop nuclear weapons to drop on Australia while having a firmware blob loaded for my video card, I'll do that | Nov 26 08:17 |
| schestowitz | I also get some flames for talking about controversial issues | Nov 26 08:17 |
| schestowitz | and focusing mostly on those, cause someone's gotta do it | Nov 26 08:17 |
| schestowitz | http://betanews.com/2011/11/25/get-a-better-command-line-with-gnu-for-windows/ | Nov 26 08:18 |
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| DaemonFC | GNU/Windows | Nov 26 08:18 |
| DaemonFC | they invented Windows too | Nov 26 08:18 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Nov 26 08:18 |
| DaemonFC | see how they can even rebrand that? | Nov 26 08:18 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Nov 26 08:18 |
| DaemonFC | these people are good | Nov 26 08:18 |
| DaemonFC | not piss Christ good | Nov 26 08:18 |
| DaemonFC | but good | Nov 26 08:18 |
| schestowitz | cygwin uses some of that stuff | Nov 26 08:20 |
| schestowitz | http://www.muktware.com/bitsnbytes/3007 | Nov 26 08:20 |
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| DaemonFC | Windows does include some GNU software | Nov 26 08:21 |
| DaemonFC | in Services for UNIX Applications | Nov 26 08:21 |
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| schestowitz | I think it was retired some years back | Nov 26 08:29 |
| schestowitz | !google unix service windows retired | Nov 26 08:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Red Hat Linux System Administration - RedHat | https://www.redhat.com/elearning/rh253vt_red_hat_linux_networking_services/ | Nov 26 08:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Sophos - Software lifecycle | http://www.sophos.com/support/lifecycle/ | Nov 26 08:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - NetBackup Release Notes | http://www.zedat.fu-berlin.de/fab/man/6.5/NetBackup_Release_Notes.pdf | Nov 26 08:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Interop & Migration: TechNet Magazine Articles | http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/magazine/cc135948.aspx | Nov 26 08:29 |
| DaemonFC | nope | Nov 26 08:30 |
| DaemonFC | still available | Nov 26 08:30 |
| DaemonFC | as part of Windows 7 Ultimate or Enterprise | Nov 26 08:30 |
| schestowitz | http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Akademy-KDE-summit-to-take-place-in-Estonia-1384605.html | Nov 26 08:30 |
| DaemonFC | or 2008 R2 | Nov 26 08:30 |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC: ok | Nov 26 08:30 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Apache-patch-patches-poorly-1385107.html | Nov 26 08:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Apache patch patches poorly - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 39.5 KB | Nov 26 08:31 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Microsoft-presents-new-JavaScript-extensions-1383833.html | Nov 26 08:32 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Microsoft presents new JavaScript extensions - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 42.1 KB | Nov 26 08:32 |
| DaemonFC | They're at it again | Nov 26 08:32 |
| schestowitz | while they mock DART openly | Nov 26 08:33 |
| schestowitz | exension is good as long as it's Microsoft's --Microsoft | Nov 26 08:33 |
| DaemonFC | Dart is worthy of being mocked | Nov 26 08:34 |
| DaemonFC | but not while they're unilaterally extending Javascript | Nov 26 08:34 |
| schestowitz | I don't care for Google's Web subs | Nov 26 08:34 |
| DaemonFC | again | Nov 26 08:34 |
| schestowitz | dns, dart, webX (images too), SPDY.. | Nov 26 08:34 |
| DaemonFC | I don't see the point of WebP | Nov 26 08:35 |
| DaemonFC | but OK | Nov 26 08:35 |
| DaemonFC | another image format that a lot of stuff doesn't work with and won't for years | Nov 26 08:35 |
| DaemonFC | super... | Nov 26 08:35 |
| *DaemonFC throws his Angry Birds pillows at schestowitz | Nov 26 08:36 | |
| *DaemonFC goes off to bed | Nov 26 08:37 | |
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| schestowitz | Docs for a dying project... http://tirania.org/blog/archive/2011/Nov-22.html | Nov 26 08:40 |
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| prurigro | anyone up? | Nov 26 08:41 |
| schestowitz | why not just point to microsoft .net docs? :-) | Nov 26 08:41 |
| schestowitz | prurigro: I am | Nov 26 08:41 |
| schestowitz | might stay home today, been crazy here recently | Nov 26 08:41 |
| prurigro | oh? how so? | Nov 26 08:42 |
| schestowitz | Last night I was shamed into breakdancing | Nov 26 08:47 |
| schestowitz | And I haven't even slept for like 36 hours | Nov 26 08:47 |
| schestowitz | just naps | Nov 26 08:47 |
| prurigro | oh man haha | Nov 26 08:53 |
| prurigro | breakdancing! | Nov 26 08:53 |
| prurigro | and word, I think I'm on about 42 myself | Nov 26 08:53 |
| schestowitz | Next month I turn 30... :/ | Nov 26 08:55 |
| prurigro | why the long slash? | Nov 26 08:55 |
| schestowitz | my mouth | Nov 26 08:55 |
| prurigro | haha yea | Nov 26 08:55 |
| schestowitz | third-life crisis :-) | Nov 26 08:55 |
| prurigro | was gonna say 'why the long face' | Nov 26 08:56 |
| prurigro | but I realized your face likely looks more complex | Nov 26 08:56 |
| prurigro | and haha | Nov 26 08:56 |
| prurigro | well | Nov 26 08:56 |
| prurigro | do you know what telomeres are? | Nov 26 08:56 |
| schestowitz | well, it's always strange when you look back 10 years and recall turning 10 or 20 | Nov 26 08:56 |
| schestowitz | "Wow, I'm no longer a teenager. Dang." | Nov 26 08:57 |
| prurigro | ahh, being a teenager isn't all its cracked up to be | Nov 26 08:57 |
| prurigro | your brains trying to polish all the systems it rapidly grew over the previous 7 or 8 years | Nov 26 08:58 |
| schestowitz | It wasn't bad | Nov 26 08:58 |
| schestowitz | When you're a teenager and celever people are more impressed | Nov 26 08:58 |
| prurigro | haha | Nov 26 08:58 |
| schestowitz | Wasn't that true for some Web founder? Now they're like late 20s... | Nov 26 08:59 |
| prurigro | well if you're out there to impress people ;) | Nov 26 08:59 |
| schestowitz | Not that;.. | Nov 26 09:00 |
| schestowitz | But... | Nov 26 09:00 |
| schestowitz | Last night I got a compliment | Nov 26 09:00 |
| prurigro | oh? | Nov 26 09:00 |
| schestowitz | For being very mature and independent when I was 17... | Nov 26 09:00 |
| prurigro | hmm | Nov 26 09:00 |
| prurigro | that's kind of a weird compliment for someone about to turn 30 | Nov 26 09:00 |
| schestowitz | I kind of knew this, but it's nice to hear from others | Nov 26 09:00 |
| schestowitz | not weird given the context of the convo | Nov 26 09:01 |
| prurigro | ahh | Nov 26 09:01 |
| prurigro | kk | Nov 26 09:01 |
| prurigro | its interesting | Nov 26 09:01 |
| schestowitz | and last night I also heard joke about this guy who's 46 and acts like 16 | Nov 26 09:01 |
| schestowitz | and thinks that impresses his g/f (maybe it does) | Nov 26 09:02 |
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| prurigro | there seems to be some kind of expectation ingrained into people, that says getting older is supposed to people in general more capable of understanding the situation than those younger than them | Nov 26 09:02 |
| prurigro | but I believe that this is only true on an individual level | Nov 26 09:02 |
| prurigro | if you were mature and independent at 17, you're likely even more so at this point | Nov 26 09:04 |
| prurigro | even if there are plenty of 60 year olds who never will be | Nov 26 09:05 |
| prurigro | is supposed to make people in general* | Nov 26 09:05 |
| prurigro | my Broca's region could apparently use a few Zzzs :) | Nov 26 09:06 |
| prurigro | schestowitz: to make you feel better, consider this | Nov 26 09:08 |
| prurigro | my dad got divorced at 35 | Nov 26 09:09 |
| prurigro | spent 6 or 7 years getting over that | Nov 26 09:09 |
| prurigro | met some fun people | Nov 26 09:09 |
| prurigro | and started partying at ~45 | Nov 26 09:09 |
| prurigro | and between 45 and 60, he's been out going crazy 3-4 nights a week | Nov 26 09:10 |
| prurigro | by far considers this the best time in his life | Nov 26 09:10 |
| prurigro | and you're like 15 years younger than he was when he started | Nov 26 09:11 |
| Brendan_T | Are macs getting malware now? (other than from apple) | Nov 26 09:19 |
| prurigro | Brendan_T: lol, why you say that? | Nov 26 09:20 |
| Brendan_T | because i didnt think it did | Nov 26 09:20 |
| prurigro | I don't think you can get malware without doing something stupid | Nov 26 09:21 |
| prurigro | unlike windows | Nov 26 09:21 |
| Brendan_T | like clicking a dialog box that gives full permission to run a program | Nov 26 09:21 |
| prurigro | haha, something like that | Nov 26 09:21 |
| prurigro | I mean | Nov 26 09:21 |
| prurigro | at that point linux is susceptible to viruses too right? | Nov 26 09:22 |
| Brendan_T | i sure | Nov 26 09:22 |
| Brendan_T | i still cant even believe the world as able to accept microsofts achievements in insecurity | Nov 26 09:24 |
| Brendan_T | the fact that a whole market around anti-virus software exists because of them is pretty amazing | Nov 26 09:25 |
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| prurigro | lol, seriously eh | Nov 26 09:27 |
| prurigro | and all because microsoft is 'supported' | Nov 26 09:28 |
| Brendan_T | its like microsoft refused to shower for so long that they accumulated enough grime to sustain an ecosystem of bacteria great enough to its self sustain a business of cleaners | Nov 26 09:28 |
| prurigro | apparently their current framework via windows 7 is actually alright, but yea, their quest for closed-source backwards compatibility has left two decades of security holes to be exploited | Nov 26 09:29 |
| schestowitz | [sorry, was away] | Nov 26 09:29 |
| Brendan_T | i refuse to believe they've got it 'alright' | Nov 26 09:30 |
| Brendan_T | it makes me happier to assume they still suck hard on a technical level | Nov 26 09:30 |
| prurigro | Brendan_T: haha, well their system is still bloated and security is still nil | Nov 26 09:34 |
| prurigro | schestowitz: no worries, we should probably both crash soon anyway, don't you think? :) | Nov 26 09:35 |
| Brendan_T | good to know | Nov 26 09:35 |
| prurigro | but hey | Nov 26 09:35 |
| prurigro | even if windows was a viable option | Nov 26 09:35 |
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| prurigro | why would you invest money into something that's not actually yours, when you can use what rightfully belongs to you as much as anyone else for free | Nov 26 09:36 |
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| schestowitz | :"Wow that was far from getting arrested, but I wonder how the officer managed to get rms out of the room... it says there he was just grabbed by the upper arm" https://joindiaspora.com/posts/880648 | Nov 26 09:37 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Nov 26 09:37 |
| Brendan_T | read that before and thought it was pretty cool | Nov 26 09:39 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/85758229 | Nov 26 09:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Saturday, 26-Nov-11 09:34:53 UTC - Identi.ca: Children Install GNU/Linux http://ur1.ca/63804 #gnu #linux | Nov 26 09:39 |
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| Brendan_T | i probably wouldnt have the confidence to go and do that myself | Nov 26 09:39 |
| Brendan_T | - go and make a sign and protest by myself and such an exposed way | Nov 26 09:39 |
| prurigro | schestowitz: the article doesn't get into why he's targeting ati, so much | Nov 26 09:39 |
| prurigro | Brendan_T: protesting takes a certain type of person :) | Nov 26 09:40 |
| Brendan_T | screw talented kids | Nov 26 09:41 |
| prurigro | ? | Nov 26 09:41 |
| Brendan_T | link posted above | Nov 26 09:41 |
| prurigro | oh, there it is eh | Nov 26 09:42 |
| prurigro | the kid's already 6? that doesn't seem too spectacular | Nov 26 09:42 |
| Brendan_T | they all suck though, by directing their efforts in crappy directions | Nov 26 09:42 |
| Brendan_T | im 18 and im only just getting in to learning to code | Nov 26 09:43 |
| Brendan_T | he is 11 now, but installed gnu/linux when he was 6 | Nov 26 09:43 |
| Brendan_T | thought installing isnt all that dramatic since a decade or two ago | Nov 26 09:44 |
| prurigro | oh kk- I should have read further | Nov 26 09:44 |
| prurigro | 11 though | Nov 26 09:44 |
| prurigro | yea, seriously | Nov 26 09:44 |
| prurigro | and a web browser in visual basic? | Nov 26 09:44 |
| Brendan_T | i have a 20 year old wanting me to hold his hand through a debian install, but he'll find out its much easier than he feared | Nov 26 09:44 |
| prurigro | that's a builtin function | Nov 26 09:44 |
| Brendan_T | ah... tricked me | Nov 26 09:45 |
| prurigro | that's really all it is isn't it-- fear | Nov 26 09:45 |
| prurigro | though some people actually do genuinely seem like they don't understand | Nov 26 09:45 |
| Brendan_T | look at how many languages he apparently knows though | Nov 26 09:45 |
| Brendan_T | though im confident in my research they are all inferior to lisp ;p | Nov 26 09:45 |
| Brendan_T | the other ones listed there all hack apple stuff | Nov 26 09:46 |
| prurigro | I knew basic, pascal, html, vb and some procedural robot programming language I never focused on the name of by 7 | Nov 26 09:47 |
| prurigro | err, actually, vb was more like 11 | Nov 26 09:47 |
| prurigro | thinking about it | Nov 26 09:47 |
| prurigro | languages aren't too complicated for kids that age | Nov 26 09:48 |
| prurigro | doing something interesting with them on the other hand | Nov 26 09:48 |
| Brendan_T | i suppose you got lucky, parents do computery stuff? | Nov 26 09:49 |
| prurigro | nadda | Nov 26 09:49 |
| prurigro | but instead of TV, I was put in front of a commodore 64 at 2-4yrs | Nov 26 09:50 |
| Brendan_T | https://twitter.com/#!/TechieShane | Nov 26 09:50 |
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| prurigro | which prolly didn't hurt | Nov 26 09:50 |
| Brendan_T | never used one | Nov 26 09:50 |
| Brendan_T | what os did it run? | Nov 26 09:50 |
| prurigro | no OS | Nov 26 09:50 |
| prurigro | there was a boot loader type program though | Nov 26 09:50 |
| Brendan_T | well who wrote that | Nov 26 09:51 |
| prurigro | worked via command line | Nov 26 09:51 |
| prurigro | commodore | Nov 26 09:51 |
| Brendan_T | oh ok | Nov 26 09:51 |
| prurigro | no hard drive | Nov 26 09:51 |
| prurigro | so an OS woulda been tricky :) | Nov 26 09:51 |
| prurigro | anyway, I'm not trying to gloat or anything, I honestly believe you coulda done just as much, and probably even more if you'd had an interest | Nov 26 09:52 |
| prurigro | or anyone else whose even remotely technically inclined | Nov 26 09:52 |
| Brendan_T | so what wizard skills can you do now? | Nov 26 09:53 |
| prurigro | wizard skills eh? I'd like to think whatever I get an inkling to do | Nov 26 09:54 |
| prurigro | :) | Nov 26 09:54 |
| Brendan_T | i did do some MSL a few years ago but it hardly counts, then i made a php bot that got sys info and gave warnings and such | Nov 26 09:55 |
| Brendan_T | then i stopped and now im getting serious with scheme | Nov 26 09:55 |
| Brendan_T | so what language(s) are you proficient at and what programs have you written? | Nov 26 09:56 |
| prurigro | ohh, (define BrendanT gettin-abstract)? | Nov 26 09:57 |
| Brendan_T | yep | Nov 26 09:58 |
| prurigro | I wrote a mario clone in C and QD offscrenes for an old mac when my highschool teacher told me it would be too hard | Nov 26 09:58 |
| prurigro | I've used C quite a bit more since though, especially unix style | Nov 26 09:58 |
| prurigro | c++ | Nov 26 09:58 |
| prurigro | scheme | Nov 26 09:58 |
| prurigro | html | Nov 26 09:58 |
| Brendan_T | QD offscrenes? | Nov 26 09:59 |
| Brendan_T | learning about c++ is nearly impossible for me. lots of people say they absolutely hate whereas otheres say its great | Nov 26 09:59 |
| prurigro | php, javascript (+jquery & jquery-ui), html5, bash, sql | Nov 26 09:59 |
| Brendan_T | ah you do scheme? | Nov 26 09:59 |
| prurigro | some basic | Nov 26 09:59 |
| prurigro | I've lost any skills I once had in vb on purpose :) | Nov 26 10:00 |
| prurigro | I can write scheme | Nov 26 10:00 |
| Brendan_T | well done | Nov 26 10:00 |
| prurigro | though its greater application has alluded me | Nov 26 10:00 |
| Brendan_T | what did you learn with? | Nov 26 10:00 |
| Brendan_T | programs as data! | Nov 26 10:00 |
| prurigro | drscheme/drracket | Nov 26 10:00 |
| prurigro | I tried guile, or whatever that command line version was | Nov 26 10:01 |
| prurigro | but it appears to work quite differently | Nov 26 10:01 |
| prurigro | 8086 asm | Nov 26 10:01 |
| prurigro | java | Nov 26 10:01 |
| Brendan_T | guile is the gnu one, its improved quite a bit these days | Nov 26 10:01 |
| prurigro | regular expressions (if those count?) | Nov 26 10:01 |
| Brendan_T | dracket changes its name so it can go its own way away from scheme | Nov 26 10:01 |
| prurigro | qt | Nov 26 10:01 |
| prurigro | and no kidding eh? | Nov 26 10:02 |
| Brendan_T | but they both support the R5RS standard | Nov 26 10:02 |
| prurigro | aspx | Nov 26 10:02 |
| Brendan_T | about rackets name or guile changing? | Nov 26 10:02 |
| prurigro | racket moving away, more like | Nov 26 10:02 |
| Brendan_T | always wondered wtf those .aspx sites i sometimes get too | Nov 26 10:02 |
| prurigro | though I guess 'moving away' could be considered moving towards polog in general | Nov 26 10:03 |
| prurigro | and lol, aspx/asp mostly use vbscript | Nov 26 10:04 |
| prurigro | though you can plug a whole array of languages into it and have it work | Nov 26 10:04 |
| Brendan_T | http://www.racket-lang.org/new-name.html | Nov 26 10:04 |
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| Brendan_T | dont even care if it comes from microsoft | Nov 26 10:04 |
| prurigro | sdl | Nov 26 10:05 |
| prurigro | microsoft? | Nov 26 10:05 |
| Brendan_T | aspx | Nov 26 10:05 |
| Brendan_T | my mum makes websites using flash :/ | Nov 26 10:06 |
| prurigro | oh | Nov 26 10:06 |
| prurigro | yea | Nov 26 10:06 |
| prurigro | aspx sucks ass :) | Nov 26 10:06 |
| prurigro | hazard of a number of jobs I've worked | Nov 26 10:06 |
| prurigro | mssql + access gui design, if you wanna throw in more terrible microsoft | Nov 26 10:07 |
| prurigro | and oh dear :( | Nov 26 10:07 |
| prurigro | does she know flash is the devil? | Nov 26 10:07 |
| Brendan_T | i suppose not | Nov 26 10:07 |
| Brendan_T | uses it for slide shows | Nov 26 10:07 |
| prurigro | hmm, but but | Nov 26 10:08 |
| prurigro | javascript could work too.... | Nov 26 10:08 |
| prurigro | :) | Nov 26 10:08 |
| Brendan_T | she uses gui programs that make it for her, any of those kinds but with javascript? | Nov 26 10:08 |
| prurigro | haha not likely | Nov 26 10:08 |
| prurigro | though, there might be a plugin | Nov 26 10:09 |
| prurigro | or 10 http://www.catswhocode.com/blog/top-10-javascript-slideshows-carousels-and-sliders | Nov 26 10:10 |
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| Brendan_T | groovy slides | Nov 26 10:15 |
| prurigro | a little off topic | Nov 26 10:16 |
| prurigro | but javascript is getting crazy | Nov 26 10:16 |
| prurigro | http://jqueryui.com/themeroller/ | Nov 26 10:16 |
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| prurigro | check out the various gui elements going on there | Nov 26 10:16 |
| prurigro | demos and docs have more intensive examples | Nov 26 10:17 |
| Brendan_T | yeah someone wrote a javascript interpreter/compiler or something like that... in javascript | Nov 26 10:17 |
| Brendan_T | http://wingolog.org/ | Nov 26 10:18 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: wingolog .::. Size~: 147.12 KB | Nov 26 10:18 |
| Brendan_T | this is one of the peoples who manage guile | Nov 26 10:19 |
| prurigro | lol | Nov 26 10:19 |
| prurigro | like javascript that interprets javascript? | Nov 26 10:19 |
| prurigro | hmm, I'll trade you your genius | Nov 26 10:20 |
| prurigro | for another one http://bellard.org/jslinux/ | Nov 26 10:20 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Javascript PC Emulator .::. Size~: 1.39 KB | Nov 26 10:20 |
| prurigro | title says it all :) | Nov 26 10:20 |
| Brendan_T | something like that, i cant quite remember, i learnt it from one of wingos posts | Nov 26 10:20 |
| Brendan_T | yeah i read about that | Nov 26 10:22 |
| Brendan_T | ha it has emacs even | Nov 26 10:22 |
| Brendan_T | doesnt seem i can pass keyboard shortcuts to it through my browser though | Nov 26 10:23 |
| prurigro | haha, emacs defeated :( | Nov 26 10:25 |
| prurigro | can you remap keys? | Nov 26 10:26 |
| Brendan_T | no idea | Nov 26 10:26 |
| Brendan_T | what boot time did you get? | Nov 26 10:27 |
| prurigro | 17.809 | Nov 26 10:28 |
| prurigro | you? | Nov 26 10:28 |
| prurigro | (netbook) | Nov 26 10:28 |
| Brendan_T | 7 in icecat 5. 12 in midori | Nov 26 10:28 |
| prurigro | oh damn haha | Nov 26 10:30 |
| prurigro | your box might have exceeded mine | Nov 26 10:30 |
| prurigro | lets see how my tablet does | Nov 26 10:30 |
| prurigro | not looking promising... haha | Nov 26 10:31 |
| prurigro | definitely more than 7 seconds | Nov 26 10:31 |
| prurigro | you know the guy who made this also wrote qemu, ffmpeg and tinygl eh? | Nov 26 10:32 |
| prurigro | wow | Nov 26 10:32 |
| prurigro | 65 seconds on the tablet | Nov 26 10:32 |
| Brendan_T | nice work him | Nov 26 10:32 |
| prurigro | no wonder people prefer native apps to web pages on android :) | Nov 26 10:32 |
| Brendan_T | i thought android was cool and wonderful when it came out and i got into bunches of arguments with apple fanboys and although i was in a better position it was silly of me to assume google were all loving | Nov 26 10:34 |
| prurigro | haha | Nov 26 10:34 |
| prurigro | yea, android is less private in a lot of ways than apple | Nov 26 10:34 |
| prurigro | apple is more closed, google lets you trade your secrets for free games that still have ads in them | Nov 26 10:35 |
| prurigro | I have both | Nov 26 10:35 |
| Brendan_T | http://replicant.us/about/ | Nov 26 10:35 |
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| prurigro | and arch is still the tastiest piece of pie | Nov 26 10:36 |
| Brendan_T | you have an apple tablet? | Nov 26 10:36 |
| prurigro | nadda | Nov 26 10:36 |
| prurigro | iphone | Nov 26 10:36 |
| Brendan_T | oh | Nov 26 10:36 |
| prurigro | eee transformer tablet | Nov 26 10:36 |
| prurigro | (since I require keyboards) | Nov 26 10:37 |
| Brendan_T | i tried telling my sister why she shouldnt have one but it just got awkard and i couldnt explain mysefl | Nov 26 10:37 |
| prurigro | lol | Nov 26 10:37 |
| prurigro | if you can't explain yourself you gotta ask if you actually have an argument | Nov 26 10:37 |
| prurigro | it doesn't mean there isn't one | Nov 26 10:38 |
| prurigro | on that note | Nov 26 10:38 |
| Brendan_T | its much harder with familty | Nov 26 10:38 |
| prurigro | I'll admit, I've toned down my religious debates during xmas for my step dad's sake | Nov 26 10:39 |
| prurigro | so I suppose in that sense... | Nov 26 10:39 |
| prurigro | why no iphone though? | Nov 26 10:39 |
| Brendan_T | are you really asking that? | Nov 26 10:39 |
| prurigro | I wanna know why you think that, and what you'd suggest as an alternative for a phone | Nov 26 10:40 |
| Brendan_T | i dont think there really are alternatives for phones | Nov 26 10:40 |
| prurigro | yup | Nov 26 10:40 |
| prurigro | so if you want a phone | Nov 26 10:41 |
| Brendan_T | the best it gets is the likes of openmoko | Nov 26 10:41 |
| Brendan_T | you can get free software on your phone, but you still need to have an identity and allow being tracked | Nov 26 10:41 |
| prurigro | maybe one day | Nov 26 10:41 |
| Brendan_T | in the case of iphones i believe eben moglen pointed out in a talk that the gps in it sends a ping to apple to log your position | Nov 26 10:41 |
| Brendan_T | i dont know how true it is | Nov 26 10:41 |
| prurigro | and as far as free software goes, pretty well none of what enters the google market place is free | Nov 26 10:42 |
| prurigro | you have to enable a service on the iphone | Nov 26 10:42 |
| prurigro | to have your location tracked | Nov 26 10:42 |
| prurigro | the service is called 'find my iphone' | Nov 26 10:42 |
| Brendan_T | oh i see, and apple also farm the data? | Nov 26 10:43 |
| prurigro | apple doesn't base its business model around your secrets | Nov 26 10:43 |
| prurigro | they have the data if you give it to them | Nov 26 10:43 |
| prurigro | no idea what they do with it | Nov 26 10:43 |
| prurigro | your cellphone carriers track you based on cell towers either way though | Nov 26 10:43 |
| prurigro | and they live in your country | Nov 26 10:43 |
| prurigro | unlike apple | Nov 26 10:43 |
| Brendan_T | to be honest one cant even drive a car in the city without being tracked - cameras at tolled roads photograph license plates, and use software to work out the characters and track positions of drivers | Nov 26 10:43 |
| prurigro | I bought a carrying case for my rfid-enabled credit cards and debit cards + possibly id? that shields broadcast | Nov 26 10:44 |
| prurigro | when I go places that look good, like work or classy events etc, I'll carry my phone and don't use the case | Nov 26 10:45 |
| prurigro | when I go places that might seem questionable, my phone's at home and my cards are shielded | Nov 26 10:46 |
| Brendan_T | how does leaving your phone at home help? | Nov 26 10:46 |
| prurigro | because I was at home the whole time | Nov 26 10:46 |
| prurigro | as far as any data tracking agency can tell | Nov 26 10:46 |
| Brendan_T | oh, so what do you mean by questionable? | Nov 26 10:46 |
| Brendan_T | something that police would be curious about? | Nov 26 10:47 |
| prurigro | not illegal | Nov 26 10:47 |
| prurigro | just not something I'd post on a resume | Nov 26 10:47 |
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| MinceR | geekings | Nov 26 12:48 |
| Brendan_T | greekings sir | Nov 26 12:55 |
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| msb__ | Good morning! I love Big Brother, and does anyone know of a program to download pictures from a Samsung Galaxy S II i9100 phone into Linux. A friend has one, and has to lapse into Yuckows to do it. | Nov 26 13:39 |
| msb__ | Without rooting the phone. | Nov 26 13:40 |
| Brendan_T | <3 BB | Nov 26 13:40 |
| MinceR | can you tell the phone to connect as a usb mass storage class device? | Nov 26 13:44 |
| msb__ | I think he got it to show up as some kind of disk, but when he mounted it there was nothing on it. | Nov 26 13:46 |
| MinceR | i think i've seen mention of an android device acting as an ftp server or something | Nov 26 13:48 |
| msb__ | I think hwinfo showed this: /dev/serial/by-path/pci-0000:00:1a.7-usb-0:2.1:1.1 | Nov 26 13:48 |
| MinceR | i think i've also seen examples of using the android sdk to transfer files | Nov 26 13:48 |
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| msb__ | This might work, but requires rooting the phone and installing busybox and some lib: http://qtadb.wordpress.com/about/ | Nov 26 13:50 |
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| msb__ | He's afraid of bricking it. | Nov 26 13:50 |
| MinceR | so adb requires rooting | Nov 26 13:51 |
| MinceR | i didn't know that | Nov 26 13:51 |
| msb__ | Apparently. | Nov 26 13:51 |
| msb__ | The Samsung website has nothing -- no support area. | Nov 26 13:52 |
| msb__ | This site gives an overview of QtADB features: http://www.xda-developers.com/android/qtadb-android-manager-for-linux-windows-and-macos/ | Nov 26 13:55 |
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| oiaohm | msb__: http://www.craig-russell.co.uk/samsung-galaxy-s2-usb-storage-and-tethering-with-ubuntu/ | Nov 26 14:00 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: » Samsung Galaxy S2 USB Storage and Tethering with Ubuntu Craig Russell Web n That .::. Size~: 38.29 KB | Nov 26 14:00 |
| msb__ | This is a totally unfamiliar area for me. I've never had a mobile phone. | Nov 26 14:00 |
| oiaohm | The Samsung usb direct to storage hook up is a bit suspect with Windows or Linux or OS X | Nov 26 14:00 |
| oiaohm | You basically need todo Zoran Bacic instructions there so it works. | Nov 26 14:01 |
| msb__ | oiaohm: Thanks! That looks like it should work! | Nov 26 14:03 |
| msb__ | What is Zoran Bacic? | Nov 26 14:04 |
| MinceR | one of the commenters | Nov 26 14:04 |
| oiaohm | msb__: its a who. | Nov 26 14:04 |
| msb__ | Ah | Nov 26 14:04 |
| oiaohm | msb__: one of the commenters who found the correct instructions. | Nov 26 14:05 |
| MinceR | there's yet another way to do it on the comments, besides Zoran's | Nov 26 14:05 |
| MinceR | ("Kies Air" -- but i don't know if that works) | Nov 26 14:05 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: that is network sharing. | Nov 26 14:08 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: very much suchs because you have to do all the coping instructions phone size. | Nov 26 14:08 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: same effect docking it as a router. | Nov 26 14:08 |
| oiaohm | msb__: basically there are many ways to get data out of a Samsung Galaxy S2 but none of them are bugless. | Nov 26 14:09 |
| MinceR | i thought it said you get a UI in the web browser | Nov 26 14:09 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: exactly like a router interface screen. | Nov 26 14:10 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: works but annoying. | Nov 26 14:10 |
| MinceR | :) | Nov 26 14:10 |
| oiaohm | Kies Air works when connected as a usb router as well. | Nov 26 14:11 |
| oiaohm | Basically there are | Nov 26 14:11 |
| oiaohm | Samsung basically went nuts on ways to get data out. | Nov 26 14:11 |
| oiaohm | kies for windows really goes to the Kies Air | Nov 26 14:11 |
| MinceR | :> | Nov 26 14:12 |
| oiaohm | But kies in wine gets lost badly. | Nov 26 14:12 |
| oiaohm | Since it wants to find the raw usb device to find the right network to talk to. | Nov 26 14:12 |
| oiaohm | Lets just say Windows users love installing crap that really is duplication of what they could have already done. | Nov 26 14:14 |
| msb__ | THis is all pretty neat! With root and busybox, you put the GNU back into Android. So you have real Linux on the phone. With access to the radio interface, etc. You can Rule the World! | Nov 26 14:16 |
| msb__ | No wonder the COLA MS-creeps hate Android. | Nov 26 14:17 |
| oiaohm | msb__: Really the newer the Android the closer to the standard Linux kernel it is becoming. | Nov 26 14:18 |
| oiaohm | With the work on fixing up X11 properly ie kill the bugger some point in the future. | Nov 26 14:18 |
| oiaohm | Some point native Linux applications and android applications will be able to be fully friendly with each other. | Nov 26 14:19 |
| msb__ | oiaohm: You want the graphic system to be in the kernel? | Nov 26 14:19 |
| oiaohm | Sections has to be. | Nov 26 14:19 |
| oiaohm | Video card memory management has to be. msb__ | Nov 26 14:19 |
| oiaohm | Anywhere else you end up will a level 10 battle for memory on the video card. | Nov 26 14:20 |
| msb__ | But are you saying get rid of X? | Nov 26 14:20 |
| oiaohm | gpu prep stuff can be fully userspace. | Nov 26 14:20 |
| MinceR | you don't have to get rid of X to do that, now | Nov 26 14:20 |
| oiaohm | X demards a few things that are hard on battery life. | Nov 26 14:21 |
| MinceR | such as? | Nov 26 14:21 |
| oiaohm | wayland is thinner. MinceR | Nov 26 14:21 |
| MinceR | that does not answer the question | Nov 26 14:21 |
| oiaohm | 1 X11 wants to still manage data that Android wm does manage so leading to duplication of work. | Nov 26 14:22 |
| oiaohm | wayland interface will be basically compadible with the Android wm. MinceR | Nov 26 14:23 |
| MinceR | which means that the android wm does too many things | Nov 26 14:23 |
| MinceR | :> | Nov 26 14:23 |
| oiaohm | android wm is based around KMS style of doing things. | Nov 26 14:23 |
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| oiaohm | Ie android wm is a compistor. Something that has never been too friendly with the X11 design. | Nov 26 14:24 |
| oiaohm | X11 is basically showing its age MinceR | Nov 26 14:24 |
| msb__ | I thought a major advantage of keeping the GUI and the kernel separate is that the GUI can't crash the kernel, like it can in Windows. | Nov 26 14:25 |
| MinceR | msb__: yes, but on the other hand the kernel should know what's going on in video memory and what graphics mode is on and how to switch | Nov 26 14:25 |
| msb__ | Modularity is one of Unix's greatest strengths. | Nov 26 14:26 |
| MinceR | in a microkernel system, you could have a server keep track of what's going on with video | Nov 26 14:26 |
| MinceR | and have everyone talk to it | Nov 26 14:26 |
| msb__ | There must be a way to do that with a monolithic kernel. A device driver? | Nov 26 14:27 |
| MinceR | the part that has to be in the kernel (because everyone has to talk to it) can be minimal | Nov 26 14:27 |
| MinceR | though i'm not sure what happens if the kernel has to switch to text mode and give a text mode login or a kernel panic | Nov 26 14:28 |
| cubezzz | Plan 9 handles video better | Nov 26 14:33 |
| cubezzz | it's just way behind in other areas | Nov 26 14:33 |
| cubezzz | e.g. browser | Nov 26 14:33 |
| msb__ | A device driver must be able to talk to the kernel, and may also be accessible to every process (e.g., /dev/tty). And ioctl commands to drivers can be designed to create any kind of interface needed. I would think. | Nov 26 14:35 |
| msb__ | The kernel could decide what to do with the video system when given requests on "/dev/video" from various processes. | Nov 26 14:37 |
| oiaohm | msb__: GUI seperate from kernel kinda fails in monolithic were it works with microkernels. | Nov 26 14:38 |
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| oiaohm | Reason tty management is done in kernel space in Linux same with basic framebuffer. | Nov 26 14:38 |
| oiaohm | This lead to the world worst cat fight with syncing between X11 and kernel. | Nov 26 14:39 |
| oiaohm | Basically only 1 thing can rule video card memory management if you try to have 2 you are doomed. | Nov 26 14:39 |
| MinceR | i suppose you could implement a filesystem that does nothing but interface applications with a userspace display daemon, but i don't know how well it would work out in practice | Nov 26 14:39 |
| oiaohm | minux pulls off tty and framebuffer stuff in userspace. | Nov 26 14:40 |
| MinceR | minix. | Nov 26 14:40 |
| oiaohm | ie it all in userspace no dog fight. | Nov 26 14:40 |
| oiaohm | Linux had a dog fight. | Nov 26 14:40 |
| MinceR | i think it still has it, if you're using nonfree video drivers | Nov 26 14:41 |
| cubezzz | I run pure X on bsd now | Nov 26 14:41 |
| cubezzz | and ssh from different computers into it | Nov 26 14:41 |
| cubezzz | so the box always stays in graphical mode | Nov 26 14:41 |
| oiaohm | cubezzz: bsd is going to run into trouble. | Nov 26 14:41 |
| cubezzz | oiaohm, why is that? | Nov 26 14:41 |
| oiaohm | DRI 1 what is usespace graphics in X11 has basically been declared dead. | Nov 26 14:42 |
| oiaohm | So bsd has to get around to implementing the kms system. | Nov 26 14:42 |
| msb__ | oiaohm: What is DRI 1? | Nov 26 14:43 |
| msb__ | Not DRM, I hope. | Nov 26 14:43 |
| cubezzz | Direct Rendering Infrastructure | Nov 26 14:43 |
| MinceR | there is a component called DRM, but it's not _that_ DRM :> | Nov 26 14:44 |
| MinceR | Direct Rendering Manager | Nov 26 14:44 |
| MinceR | https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Direct_Rendering_Manager | Nov 26 14:44 |
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| cubezzz | I haven't looked any lower than xlib function level | Nov 26 14:44 |
| cubezzz | but I know my motif programs compile on bsd and linux, even old linux | Nov 26 14:45 |
| oiaohm | Its the stuff under xlib is where bsd is going to run into major trouble. cubezzz | Nov 26 14:45 |
| cubezzz | I'm curious to know why | Nov 26 14:46 |
| oiaohm | Lets start off with problem 1. DRI 1 techically only supports 1 opengl application at a time. So it has to die. | Nov 26 14:47 |
| oiaohm | Framebuffer + tty + X11 has been a dog fight. KMS is shared memory managment for framebuffer tty and x11 | Nov 26 14:47 |
| oiaohm | So ending the dog fight for good. | Nov 26 14:47 |
| oiaohm | Problem is bsd has not kept up with the tech changed required for dri2 cubezzz | Nov 26 14:48 |
| msb__ | It was all so much simpler with PC-DOS. I wrote my own graphics library in C. It even had windows with scrolling text in them. | Nov 26 14:49 |
| oiaohm | msb__: KMS does make the process simpler. | Nov 26 14:50 |
| cubezzz | at least use FreeDOS :)\ | Nov 26 14:50 |
| oiaohm | Also part of KMS is coming virtual crtc | Nov 26 14:51 |
| msb__ | I haven't even programmed anything graphical since I switched to Linux. | Nov 26 14:51 |
| oiaohm | Ie video cards with screens that don't exist but gpu can process to. | Nov 26 14:51 |
| oiaohm | and that virtual screen data can be forwarded to other machines. | Nov 26 14:51 |
| oiaohm | Or other video card.s | Nov 26 14:52 |
| msb__ | The software will expand to use up all the hardware capability -- memory and cpu -- available to it. And then some. | Nov 26 14:53 |
| cubezzz | not if we write our own software | Nov 26 14:53 |
| cubezzz | I tend to write lean and mean | Nov 26 14:53 |
| cubezzz | besides, I run historical OSes | Nov 26 14:53 |
| MinceR | i run an efficient DE and WM :> | Nov 26 14:54 |
| oiaohm | msb__: not exactly true Linux hardware capablity requirement is very slowly growing. | Nov 26 14:54 |
| msb__ | The 6809 with OS/9 was supposed to be pretty good. | Nov 26 14:54 |
| oiaohm | msb__: I run maintained on those. | Nov 26 14:55 |
| oiaohm | and running out of memory was one of there common bomb screen displays ie windows blue screen of death equal. | Nov 26 14:56 |
| cubezzz | OS/9 makes me think of Radio Shack CoCo | Nov 26 14:56 |
| cubezzz | I'm sure it ran on a lot of other computers too | Nov 26 14:57 |
| MinceR | OS/9 makes me think of OS/2 | Nov 26 14:57 |
| oiaohm | 0S/9 is apple | Nov 26 14:57 |
| oiaohm | the OS before OS X | Nov 26 14:57 |
| cubezzz | it's not just apple | Nov 26 14:58 |
| MinceR | that's OS 9, not OS/9 | Nov 26 14:58 |
| MinceR | or MacOS 9, or System 9 | Nov 26 14:58 |
| msb__ | Sorry! | Nov 26 14:58 |
| oiaohm | Opps | Nov 26 14:58 |
| cubezzz | yeah did Apple even use 6809? | Nov 26 14:59 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: OS/9 is double its either Mac OS 9 or OS-9 | Nov 26 14:59 |
| cubezzz | btw, Microware used the name first | Nov 26 15:00 |
| cubezzz | they sued apple for trademark infringement | Nov 26 15:00 |
| cubezzz | don't think they won though :) | Nov 26 15:00 |
| oiaohm | Microwave trademark is OS-9 | Nov 26 15:00 |
| oiaohm | not OS/9 | Nov 26 15:00 |
| oiaohm | ie they did not win. | Nov 26 15:01 |
| oiaohm | And we end up with a black hole of basically OS/9 | Nov 26 15:01 |
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| msb__ | Just to add to the confusion: "The very first Macintosh prototype, wire-wrapped by Burrell Smith, contained a 6809." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/6809 | Nov 26 15:04 |
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| msb__ | I think it was multitasking that led into all this complexity. In the old PC, the graphic UI (if there was one) not only was in user space, it was compiled into the application. The machine would only run one program at a time. Somehow, that was enough. | Nov 26 15:08 |
| msb__ | Sigh. | Nov 26 15:11 |
| msb__ | You youngsters don't know how lucky you are. Every morning, I had to figure out how many bits I was going to use that day, and carry them up the hill in a bit bucket! | Nov 26 15:14 |
| MinceR | somehow it wasn't enough for me | Nov 26 15:15 |
| msb__ | Now one movie is bigger than my last PCDOS disk, which was 500MB. | Nov 26 15:19 |
| msb__ | I sure hope all the digital data on these high-capacity disks doesn't vanish from a solar burp or something. | Nov 26 15:20 |
| abeNd-org | "solar burp, you mean like when the Illuminati turn Jupiter into a second sun?" | Nov 26 15:22 |
| abeNd-org | lol | Nov 26 15:22 |
| msb__ | More Illumination, eh? | Nov 26 15:22 |
| MinceR | even flash drives can hold more data than that | Nov 26 15:22 |
| MinceR | and those aren't so vulnerable to EM effects | Nov 26 15:22 |
| msb__ | The Sun doing a Coronal Mass Ejection that hits the earth. | Nov 26 15:23 |
| msb__ | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carrington_Event | Nov 26 15:24 |
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| msb__ | Burned out some of the only long wires then in existence -- telegraph. | Nov 26 15:25 |
| msb__ | Our technology runs close to the edge in some ways. A flood in Thailand -- no more disk drives. | Nov 26 15:27 |
| msb__ | One little nuclear war, and we'll probably run out of pizza or something. | Nov 26 15:28 |
| abeNd-org | now that would mobilize the masses! | Nov 26 15:29 |
| MinceR | ...to make more pizza. | Nov 26 15:29 |
| msb__ | Damn right! | Nov 26 15:29 |
| MinceR | :> | Nov 26 15:29 |
| abeNd-org | i would take up arms! & an apron | Nov 26 15:30 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] I've pushed some code to be a bit more fragile (dying faster) when we see errors in the home timeline distribution; hopefully this helps. | Nov 26 15:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] No, it's really not, if you're looking at the Web interface. | Nov 26 15:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Thanks for your patience. It's frustrating when software doesn't work the way we expect it to. | Nov 26 15:32 | |
| msb__ | Bread, cheese, tomato, spicy meat, a few veggies -- combine to make the ultimate food! | Nov 26 15:33 |
| MinceR | by your powers combined, i am captain pizza! | Nov 26 15:33 |
| msb__ | OMG, I don't have that show! | Nov 26 15:34 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] As an Evangelo, I take that personally. | Nov 26 15:35 | |
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| msb__ | W.I.T.C.H. was pretty good too. | Nov 26 15:36 |
| abeNd-org | i could use captain pizza around here, where i live they don't deliver pizza :( | Nov 26 15:39 |
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| MinceR | i didn't know such a thing existed | Nov 26 15:40 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks press conference on Dec. 1st | Nov 26 15:40 | |
| MinceR | i just modified the line from captain planet | Nov 26 15:40 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] No. I've been moving all our servers from iWeb to Rackspace over the last 6-8 weeks. Some had problems, which you see. | Nov 26 15:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Good luck on that. | Nov 26 15:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Where can I get insurance that covers "Acts of God"? | Nov 26 15:43 | |
| abeNd-org | MinceR: it does, and I am really not all that far out from the center of town either | Nov 26 15:49 |
| MinceR | :> | Nov 26 15:53 |
| abeNd-org | only one isp out here as well, kinda sad | Nov 26 15:53 |
| abeNd-org | but at least my neighbors are horses | Nov 26 15:54 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] lol! i guess the old saw "man needs religion like a fish needs a bicycle" applies nonetheless. | Nov 26 15:55 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] hola !EOL alguno puede replyear para un test? :D | Nov 26 16:18 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Good stuff! positive atheism - http://ur1.ca/63yna | Nov 26 16:23 | |
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| koolhead17 | hola all | Nov 26 16:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] How about some Copyfraud Modernization? http://ur1.ca/63yul !copyright | Nov 26 16:30 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] "Revolutionary Doctors. How Venezuela and Cuba Are Changing the World’s Conception of Health Care" http://ur1.ca/63z4e | Nov 26 16:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Linux Mint 12 released http://ur1.ca/63z4j | Nov 26 16:38 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] feed his irc through festival | Nov 26 16:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] lol. i was poking at those who blindly sign documents that specifically exclude "acts of god". I always cancel out those statements. | Nov 26 16:45 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] seems like everyone on identica is a fennoswede :/ | Nov 26 16:47 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Allowing for the population difference the murder rate on one side of a river is 21 times higher than on the other. http://ur1.ca/63zjt | Nov 26 16:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] Can you give it another shot? :) I'll probably be slower today/tomorrow from working on ai class but I kinda need to get this stuff down | Nov 26 16:52 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] that's ambiguous, I'm trying to conform to your schedule, just warning you that if it's today/tomorrow I'll be slow. | Nov 26 16:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] afraid not, xmpp/irc maybe? | Nov 26 16:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] You do not need to have been to the Middle East to realise that as ill informed at the least. | Nov 26 16:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Listening to David Rovics http://ur1.ca/5tyyn #music | Nov 26 17:02 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Chicago airport starts offering flights to Cuba. http://ur1.ca/6406r | Nov 26 17:07 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Chicago airport starts offering flights to Cuba. http://ur1.ca/64072 !Cubanews | Nov 26 17:08 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] New Blog Post | Speaking For Whom http://goo.gl/y6JGI #FOSS #Linux #Ubuntu | Nov 26 17:13 | |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/881977 | Nov 26 17:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Nov 26 17:15 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 26 17:15 |
| schestowitz | The release of the source code of Doom 3 is an exciting new! | Nov 26 17:15 |
| schestowitz | https://github.com/TTimo/doom3.gpl | Nov 26 17:15 |
| schestowitz | Unfortunately, I'm not playing this kind of action games anymore, only chess and mind games, for now... | Nov 26 17:15 |
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| schestowitz | I would like to know your opinion about whether people, who are buying and playing these kind of games and are supporters of #FLOSS, should or should not buy closed source video games from companies like id Software to express a gesture toward them? | Nov 26 17:15 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 26 17:15 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] oooh, there's been more #Identica action in the last hour, than the last couple of days on my timeline, something was broken now fixed | Nov 26 17:15 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/885333 "The 'scottish pirate metal' band Alestorm (who are awesome, by the way) had large tape-and-crossbones banners with them on their last tour :) #piratemetal" | Nov 26 17:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Nov 26 17:15 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] USAID and it's connections with the US Department of State, the CIA, and the Pentagon. http://ur1.ca/640tg | Nov 26 17:25 | |
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| XFaCE | schestowitz: So no BZFlag for you? :( | Nov 26 17:27 |
| schestowitz | hehe | Nov 26 17:27 |
| schestowitz | no | Nov 26 17:27 |
| XFaCE | it's intellectual. You have to take physics into account | Nov 26 17:28 |
| XFaCE | And when the tanks explode, there is a delay between the sound and the light | Nov 26 17:28 |
| XFaCE | see? Intellectual I say! | Nov 26 17:28 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Philippines & FBI arrest crackers. Target company say there was no attack. Indian government say it was someone else. http://ur1.ca/641b0 | Nov 26 17:38 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Imagini nemaivăzute cu Regele Mihai şi Regina Ana, în vizită în România, în 1997 http://ur1.ca/641ev #romania #monarchy #royal #europe | Nov 26 17:42 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Updated #CrunchBang Statler images http://goo.gl/19r9F | Nov 26 17:48 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] http://identi.ca/url/60960306 #suicide | Nov 26 17:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Nato kills up to 28 Pakistani checkpoint soldiers prompting closure of NATO supply routes to Afghanistan. http://ur1.ca/641p2 | Nov 26 17:50 | |
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| DaemonFC | Mafiaafire might be busier now | Nov 26 17:51 |
| DaemonFC | https://torrentfreak.com/feds-seize-130-domain-names-in-mass-crackdown-111125/ | Nov 26 17:51 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] It is nice to have it working again. | Nov 26 17:52 | |
| DaemonFC | God forbid someone buys an NFL jersey that doesn't cost $100 | Nov 26 17:52 |
| DaemonFC | Praise White Jesus that ICE won't let you buy the same thing for $20! | Nov 26 17:52 |
| DaemonFC | Praise White Jesus! | Nov 26 17:52 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] I just registered hackersforlife.org. Will have a wiki up this weekend. Let's start pulling this info together. | Nov 26 17:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Is that true? They're supposed to show up in Old School. | Nov 26 17:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Învățare la distanță: GNU/Linux și Moodle România [VIDEO] http://ur1.ca/641zk #video #moodle #romania #e-learning #gnu #linux | Nov 26 17:58 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Ben's Prison Blog. Ben has received another movement order to an open prison. Third Time Lucky? http://ur1.ca/6420p | Nov 26 18:00 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Yeah, we've been having a problem with delivery to the home timeline for a week or so. Seems to be working better now. | Nov 26 18:00 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] You're absolutely supposed to use it. I'm not sure what you mean by designing it to fail. | Nov 26 18:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Not right now. Principle of least damage; much worse to accidentally publicize a private conversation than vice versa. | Nov 26 18:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Yep. I've got a new offline backup plugin that should be going _online_ (#seewhatididthere) soon. Been busy keeping things running. | Nov 26 18:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] It is time for change at Interpol: Red notices for Assange & now from Indonesia for freedom fighter Benny Wanda http://t.co/tBa8v9Oo | Nov 26 18:10 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Nov 26 18:10 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Quitters never win, and winners never quit. | Nov 26 18:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Barter Society Emerges in #Greece as Crisis Deepens by Mac Slavo - #preppers #collapse http://goo.gl/B7p5N | Nov 26 18:12 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Let me look. Most of the admin panels make sense for people running their own sites. I don't want you installing new plugins on my servers. | Nov 26 18:15 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] one of the best !freesoftware games ♻ @rhonda: #wesnoth 1.9.11 uploaded both to #debian and to my personal #ubuntu #PPA | Nov 26 18:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] The Sex Pistols were debris riding on a nice wave. #music | Nov 26 18:20 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Don't you find it a wee bit ridiculous to posit the pre-1.0 version of StatusNet as the ne plus ultra of social software? | Nov 26 18:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] @fontana and furthermore to posit that any variation from that paragon of design is hopelessly unusable? | Nov 26 18:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] @fontana neither hypothesis bears up under scrutiny. | Nov 26 18:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] @fontana and thus I name thee troll, sir, and thou art banishèd. | Nov 26 18:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Fractured town shows challenges ahead for Libya http://ur1.ca/6432y | Nov 26 18:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Also, let me know when they get stream mode working on Google+. | Nov 26 18:28 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] RT @omichalek Amazing, because of @twitterapi capturing every URL into t.co for #datamining, twitter has a #URLprolonger feature. !Statu ... | Nov 26 18:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] #Auralquiz just got a Type-the-answer mode :D | Nov 26 18:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] There have always been non-@ replies. Your client should have started handling them better a long time ago. | Nov 26 18:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Don't be absurd. We absolutely show the @ if you include it. We just don't _require_ it. Never have, actually! | Nov 26 18:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Ubuntu UK Podcast the BBC of the !floss world. #notacompliment | Nov 26 18:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @r7 @parlementum that is an article to which i look forward | Nov 26 18:38 | |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/85758365 | Nov 26 18:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Saturday, 26-Nov-11 09:41:40 UTC - Identi.ca: #KDE SC 4.8 Beta 1 Is Available for Testing http://ur1.ca/63865 #linux | Nov 26 18:39 |
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| DaemonFC | I've got a nasty surprise for attackers | Nov 26 18:39 |
| DaemonFC | I've hidden a bunch of level 8 suicide bombers behind my buildings | Nov 26 18:40 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Nov 26 18:40 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Feel free to get me a patch that will optionally add the @nickname in when you reply to someone. I'll add it to the old-school plugin. | Nov 26 18:40 | |
| DaemonFC | I tested it out by provoking another player with mega tanks | Nov 26 18:40 |
| DaemonFC | there's a bunch of burned up mega tank remains on my base now | Nov 26 18:40 |
| DaemonFC | http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/11/26/9036461-alleged-pepper-spraying-walmart-shopper-surrenders | Nov 26 18:42 |
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| DaemonFC | CLEETUS!!! THAT BITCH A GRABBIN MAH $5 COFFEE MASHEEEEEN!!!! GRAWWWWW!!!! | Nov 26 18:42 |
| DaemonFC | *pepper spray!* | Nov 26 18:42 |
| DaemonFC | they don't call it black friday for nothing :) | Nov 26 18:42 |
| DaemonFC | it lures out a bunch of society's lower rungs to go pepper spraying, stabbing, and trampling one another to save $3 on a coffee maker | Nov 26 18:43 |
| DaemonFC | or $4 on a toaster | Nov 26 18:43 |
| DaemonFC | "The alleged attack took place about 10:20 p.m. Thursday, shortly after doors opened for the sale. Employees brought out a crate of discounted Xbox video game players, and a crowd formed to wait for the unwrapping. Valle said the woman began spraying people in order to get an advantage." | Nov 26 18:45 |
| DaemonFC | STAY AWAY FROM MAH XBOX GAMES, CLEETUS JR. HERE HAS DIBS, GRAW!!!!!! | Nov 26 18:45 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 26/11/2011: Wine 1.3.33, KDE SC 4.8 Beta 1 http://ur1.ca/643nj #techrights | Nov 26 18:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] That's incorrect. All clients get that context (to whom and to what it's in reply to); some don't show it. Web UI shows it. | Nov 26 18:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Iran says if its nuclear facilities are attacked by USA/Israel they will attack Israeli nuclear instillations. http://ur1.ca/643o6 | Nov 26 18:45 | |
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| DaemonFC | *pepper spray some more!* | Nov 26 18:45 |
| DaemonFC | "Now that mamma's going to jail for a few months, you pick out your very favorite $5 game from 3 years ago!" | Nov 26 18:46 |
| DaemonFC | she says, to a kid with a mullet | Nov 26 18:46 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Nov 26 18:46 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @evan I write fiction, not code; the only patch I can manage is to type it manually every time. It annoys b/c didn't used to need to here. | Nov 26 18:47 | |
| DaemonFC | Wal-Mart officials called it "an unfortunate situation." | Nov 26 18:47 |
| DaemonFC | no it's not, it gets them mention in the news, which is free advertising | Nov 26 18:47 |
| DaemonFC | "We're glad everyone seems to be OK," Wal-Mart said in a statement. The company pledge to assist authorities with the their investigation. | Nov 26 18:47 |
| DaemonFC | That's awfully nice of them. | Nov 26 18:47 |
| DaemonFC | It would look bad if the police had to serve Walmart with a warrant to go after that woman | Nov 26 18:48 |
| DaemonFC | ;) | Nov 26 18:48 |
| DaemonFC | for the videos and such | Nov 26 18:48 |
| DaemonFC | ;)"Walmart seemed to have a worse day than many other retailers as shoppers screamed, shoved and elbowed each other to save a few bucks." | Nov 26 18:48 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] "I don't like the new UI at identi.ca! Therefore, I'm going to use Google+ instead (which has a similar UI)!" You don't deserve identi.ca. | Nov 26 18:48 | |
| DaemonFC | it happens every year | Nov 26 18:48 |
| DaemonFC | Walmart pays off duty police officers to stand watch at the front of the store | Nov 26 18:49 |
| DaemonFC | it feels like you're breaking into prison between them and all the toothless meth cooking rednecks | Nov 26 18:49 |
| DaemonFC | "Incidents across the country included a man shot by robbers in the parking lot outside a San Leandro, Calif., store and shoppers pepper sprayed by security at a store in Kinston, N.C." | Nov 26 18:50 |
| DaemonFC | Security = off duty cops | Nov 26 18:50 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] I admire your perseverance. I'll see what I can do to add a flag. Note that it won't make other people use it, though. | Nov 26 18:50 | |
| DaemonFC | http://www.thenation.com/sites/default/files/user/164565/455484308.jpg | Nov 26 18:51 |
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| DaemonFC | Toy for Mexican kids | Nov 26 18:51 |
| DaemonFC | pepper spraying off duty cops | Nov 26 18:51 |
| DaemonFC | must be the holidays | Nov 26 18:51 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Nov 26 18:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Ah, right. That's with the real-time plugin enabled, I know. Replies don't drag in the whole conversation. Tricky UI to get right! | Nov 26 18:52 | |
| DaemonFC | "A fight for bath towels, purportedly recorded at a Michigan store, has become a YouTube sensation. Cheap towels also caused mayhem at a Walmart in Oregon, Ohio." | Nov 26 18:52 |
| DaemonFC | How sad is that | Nov 26 18:52 |
| DaemonFC | a fist fight over a bath towel for $1.88 | Nov 26 18:52 |
| DaemonFC | don't these kinds of people, like, not take baths anyway? | Nov 26 18:52 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paLO5VN3hPM | Nov 26 18:53 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] I see 2 ways to do it: 1) just show reply (what we do now). 2) plop in the conversation, -OR- pull it to the top of page if it's in there. | Nov 26 18:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] @evan @lnxwalt280 very true, !Choqok has supported it for a long, loooong time. | Nov 26 18:53 | |
| DaemonFC | It's a scene from the next Walking Dead! | Nov 26 18:54 |
| DaemonFC | No wait, it's black people rioting over bath towels | Nov 26 18:54 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Nov 26 18:54 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] But It used to be automatically applied with the reply button. That improved ease of use which is why i don't understand feature removal | Nov 26 18:55 | |
| DaemonFC | I'm now waiting for a witty retort from schestowitz who will claim it's not their fault because whitey usually keeps the black man from owning any bath towels at their normal price of $4 | Nov 26 18:56 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Nov 26 18:56 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGlGMxGP4Mo&feature=related | Nov 26 18:57 |
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| DaemonFC | more black people rioting over prepaid cell phones | Nov 26 18:57 |
| DaemonFC | a few white people were tossed into each video for political correctness | Nov 26 18:58 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHsoPPynIIc&feature=related | Nov 26 19:01 |
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| DaemonFC | The BBC apparently edits this out | Nov 26 19:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] odd that BY licensed dents would be private. license allows posting in public elsewhere... ? am I missing something? | Nov 26 19:03 | |
| DaemonFC | it's probably over the comment about the Irish reuinification of 2024 | Nov 26 19:05 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Nov 26 19:05 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] Is that why identi.ca seems so dead lately? or have people left the place? | Nov 26 19:05 | |
| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ip11CEddIcg&feature=related | Nov 26 19:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Black Friday 2011: The 99 percent fight over 4gb Memory Cards (INSANE WALMART MOB) - YouTube .::. Size~: 102.47 KB | Nov 26 19:06 |
| MinceR | 195518 < DaemonFC> a fist fight over a bath towel for $1.88 | Nov 26 19:07 |
| MinceR | they're only human | Nov 26 19:07 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] It is like the pub is open again after refurbishment (fixing the plumbing). Well done @evan | Nov 26 19:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @gomerx I have lost my coffee again. | Nov 26 19:07 | |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: Humans don't do this | Nov 26 19:07 |
| DaemonFC | Human trash maybe | Nov 26 19:07 |
| DaemonFC | anything I'd like to call human wouldn't start a pepper spraying fist fight over bath towels | Nov 26 19:08 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bb_dyWZOBLM | Nov 26 19:08 |
| MinceR | i find most of them are trash | Nov 26 19:08 |
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| DaemonFC | :D | Nov 26 19:08 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: Those memory cards are about the same price or cheaper on Newegg or Amazon or Tiger Direct | Nov 26 19:10 |
| DaemonFC | every day | Nov 26 19:10 |
| DaemonFC | why are they rioting to save a few pennies? | Nov 26 19:10 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] The microwave oven is an invention humanity would have been better off without. | Nov 26 19:10 | |
| MinceR | because they want them NOW | Nov 26 19:10 |
| MinceR | and if someone else gets to buy them cheaper, it's an offense :> | Nov 26 19:11 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Dawn's voice has been stuck in the Shrieking Howl mode all day | Nov 26 19:11 |
| DaemonFC | you'd think people would start screening their calls | Nov 26 19:11 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: I went there after all the fuss | Nov 26 19:11 |
| DaemonFC | and bought the stuff I felt was significantly discounted, which wasn't a lot | Nov 26 19:12 |
| DaemonFC | those cheap TVs and computers and tablets aren't worth getting out of bed over | Nov 26 19:12 |
| DaemonFC | there will be 10,000 people in the store and the store has like 3 of each | Nov 26 19:12 |
| DaemonFC | the point is to sell a few of each at break even because thousands of people who don't get a cheap TV will leave with one at full price | Nov 26 19:13 |
| DaemonFC | it's not a sale, it's going elbow to elbow with thousands of people for a <1% chance of getting what you really came there for | Nov 26 19:13 |
| DaemonFC | and possibly getting pepper sprayed or punched in the face by some uncivilized piece of shit who wants it more | Nov 26 19:14 |
| DaemonFC | fuck, let them have it | Nov 26 19:14 |
| DaemonFC | you should have seen Walmart in New Orleans after Katrina | Nov 26 19:14 |
| DaemonFC | the looters were actually more peaceful than the people who flood the store for the 2-3 cheap TVs and laptops they have at this so called sale | Nov 26 19:15 |
| DaemonFC | the looters probably didn't feel much pressure | Nov 26 19:15 |
| DaemonFC | since there was enough for everyone and it was all free | Nov 26 19:15 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Nov 26 19:15 |
| DaemonFC | but you tell someone it's $2 off and you have a limited supply.... | Nov 26 19:16 |
| DaemonFC | you get a riot? | Nov 26 19:16 |
| DaemonFC | interesting | Nov 26 19:16 |
| DaemonFC | people even buy stuff that they don't need which isn't discounted much because they call it a "special sale" | Nov 26 19:18 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: Not many people noticed, but Radio Shack, which is right next to Walmart, had a Black Friday sale too | Nov 26 19:19 |
| DaemonFC | and their pricing was comparable | Nov 26 19:19 |
| DaemonFC | and there were not many people in there | Nov 26 19:19 |
| DaemonFC | so while everyone was rioting at Walmart, Dave and I slipped into Radio Shack and bought one of those Nook e-readers for my mom at the sale price | Nov 26 19:19 |
| DaemonFC | and left without incident or fighting through walls of bodies | Nov 26 19:20 |
| DaemonFC | or finding out there's only 6 of them in the whole store | Nov 26 19:20 |
| DaemonFC | ::) | Nov 26 19:20 |
| DaemonFC | or waiting 3 hours for the sale to start | Nov 26 19:20 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @satipera It is like the pub is open again after refurbishment (fixing the plumbing). Well done @evan | Nov 26 19:20 | |
| DaemonFC | this has to be psychological | Nov 26 19:20 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] What caused the financial crisis? The real reasons explained. http://ur1.ca/644qw #fraud #banksters | Nov 26 19:22 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: What caused the financial crisis? The Big Lie goes viral - The Washington Post .::. Size~: 106.8 KB | Nov 26 19:22 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: $9.99 was the "sale" price on an 8 GB thumbdrive at Walmart | Nov 26 19:22 |
| DaemonFC | then you pay 7% sales tax | Nov 26 19:22 |
| DaemonFC | Newegg has them for $7.99-$8.99 with free shipping and no tax | Nov 26 19:22 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Nov 26 19:22 |
| DaemonFC | if you wait two days you can save a couple dollars on each one of them vs. Walmart's "special sale" | Nov 26 19:23 |
| DaemonFC | only this is not a special sale price on Newegg | Nov 26 19:23 |
| DaemonFC | Walmart must be great at their bullshit | Nov 26 19:23 |
| DaemonFC | people kicking and screaming and knocking over displays to pay more | Nov 26 19:23 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is http://ur1.ca/5xy7r with 48 dents! | Nov 26 19:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] I agree. I don't understand how private dents work; I can see private dents of people who are not subscribed to me. #makesnosense | Nov 26 19:23 | |
| MinceR | and how's the warranty service? | Nov 26 19:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Jean Baptiste Favre (jbfavre) - jbfavre.org en 140 caractères .::. Size~: 23.09 KB | Nov 26 19:23 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] You are anticipating a problem that should not arise. Use a smaller mug. More cost effective than buying an instant warmer upper. | Nov 26 19:27 | |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: I warrant that when shopping Newegg.com, buyer will not be kicked in the balls, punched in the face, or pepper sprayed, or a combination of the aforementioned items | Nov 26 19:27 |
| DaemonFC | how's that working for you? :P) | Nov 26 19:27 |
| MinceR | not what i meant | Nov 26 19:28 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] That USA chicken has lived for years without a head. I would like to see a human do that. | Nov 26 19:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @evan Not always: This is your dent as it appears in conversation: http://identi.ca/attachment/60966544 | Nov 26 19:30 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: http://file.status.net/i/identica/laurelrusswurm-20111126T192941-grlsskp.png - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 11.33 KB | Nov 26 19:30 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I exagerated. http://ur1.ca/64533 | Nov 26 19:32 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Mike the Headless Chicken - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 39.93 KB | Nov 26 19:32 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @evan ... and this is what appears on my home timeline: http://identi.ca/attachment/60966691 | Nov 26 19:33 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: http://file.status.net/i/identica/laurelrusswurm-20111126T193239-e4wqkvt.png - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 11.33 KB | Nov 26 19:33 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/zoobab/statuses/138683250678841344 | Nov 26 19:36 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @zoobab: Granted patent 8,060,830 covering Apple's RSS news feed browser http://t.co/lJXfjuaI | Nov 26 19:36 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Nov 26 19:36 |
| schestowitz | LOL | Nov 26 19:36 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: how come Dawn is like this? :-) | Nov 26 19:36 |
| MinceR | what the fuck | Nov 26 19:36 |
| MinceR | crApple decided RSS belongs to them now? | Nov 26 19:37 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I drink tea. The thought of reheated tea is not nice. | Nov 26 19:37 | |
| MinceR | and the other fascists agree with them? | Nov 26 19:37 |
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| schestowitz | [18:53] <TechrightsBot-tr> Title: Black Friday Madness 2011 "Towels" - YouTube .::. Size~: 99.09 KB | Nov 26 19:38 |
| schestowitz | LOL | Nov 26 19:38 |
| schestowitz | Welcome to the USA | Nov 26 19:38 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: aitn't apple sooooo innovative? :-) | Nov 26 19:38 |
| MinceR | yes, so innovative at thieving | Nov 26 19:38 |
| MinceR | as ever | Nov 26 19:39 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77TbTNRQFNY | Nov 26 19:39 |
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| DaemonFC | :) | Nov 26 19:39 |
| schestowitz | I remember that.. | Nov 26 19:40 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/zoobab/statuses/138683692343238657 | Nov 26 19:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @zoobab: And he’s saying: Don’t ask for limits to the patent system. We’re not listening http://t.co/lIZSVRm9 | Nov 26 19:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Nov 26 19:40 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I know what you mean. I dented once and it showed someone hanging from a tree. Perhaps we should be able to delete attached png's after dent | Nov 26 19:42 | |
| DaemonFC | http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/11/26/deadly-border-strike-inflames-tensions-between-us-pakistan/ | Nov 26 19:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Error processing the URL: HTTP/1.0 403 Forbidden | Nov 26 19:43 |
| DaemonFC | looks like we wore out our welcome in Pakistan | Nov 26 19:43 |
| DaemonFC | I wonder how many billions of dollars they'll take to overlook this little incident | Nov 26 19:43 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Nov 26 19:43 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I have to find out why that headlamp is blowing bulbs | Nov 26 19:44 |
| DaemonFC | I just put a new one in last night, and it was the most expensive firecracker I ever bought | Nov 26 19:44 |
| DaemonFC | *sigh* | Nov 26 19:44 |
| DaemonFC | so that's going to be my afternoon | Nov 26 19:44 |
| DaemonFC | ugggh | Nov 26 19:44 |
| DaemonFC | bbiab | Nov 26 19:44 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] LMAO. Yes they were really nice to afterwards for 18 months by literally pouring its feed down it's neck. | Nov 26 19:47 | |
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| sebsebseb | hi | Nov 26 19:47 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/zoobab/statuses/139031041343111168 | Nov 26 19:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @zoobab: @kgerloff Don't say Bravo too fast, they will come with RAND and al. | Nov 26 19:49 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: hi mate | Nov 26 19:49 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] I disabled the URL shortener on my notice #ffs | Nov 26 19:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] THIS ACCOUNT NOW INACTIVE. USING http://ur1.ca/645tr / http://ur1.ca/645ts until self-hosted instance is up. | Nov 26 19:55 | |
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| schestowitz | http://blog.ksnh.eu/en/2011/11/24/juri-legal-committee-of-the-european-parliament-deals-with-eu-unitary-patent/ zoobab see first comment | Nov 26 19:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: JURI Legal Committee Of The European Parliament Deals With EU Unitary Patent | ksnh::law .::. Size~: 80.06 KB | Nov 26 19:59 |
| schestowitz | "Frankly, this is appalling. Intellectual Property in general and this cornerstone of European patent politics in particular should not be negotiated in darkness and shrouded by secrecy. After ACTA, this is the second big project where influential policymakers prefer to flee the light of public discussion and seek to refuge by shrouding with secrecy what should be in the open." | Nov 26 19:59 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft Florian is still only posting links to anti-Android articles | Nov 26 20:00 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Charles Dickens coming up 200. It only seems like yesterday when..... | Nov 26 20:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Talking into thin air.. That is my stength. | Nov 26 20:05 | |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: good news | Nov 26 20:06 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: seems I don't have to use Windows to do voice with people anymore :D | Nov 26 20:06 |
| sebsebseb | altough only been trying it with Pidgin so far | Nov 26 20:06 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: Mageia 2 Alpha 1 seems to have fixed sound issues for me :D | Nov 26 20:06 |
| sebsebseb | headset issues | Nov 26 20:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Talking into thin air.. That is my strength. | Nov 26 20:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] If there had always been an internet would religions have ever got off the ground? | Nov 26 20:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Sorry, I guess I haven't been clear: we've been having a big problem with home timeline delivery, which I think has been fixed. | Nov 26 20:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] 96 hours to the stone age: How quickly our connected lives crumble when the power goes out — Tech News and Analysis http://head4.me/3 | Nov 26 20:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] I'm not sure if there's much value in mixing those two issues. | Nov 26 20:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Public Enemy. Nice. | Nov 26 20:13 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Interesting! What was the deciding factor? | Nov 26 20:15 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: My headlamp cover was full of water, that's what caused the bulb to pop | Nov 26 20:17 |
| DaemonFC | didn't eaven see it until I got it off | Nov 26 20:17 |
| DaemonFC | so O drained it out and sealed the leak with spray on drain sealant | Nov 26 20:17 |
| DaemonFC | hehe | Nov 26 20:17 |
| DaemonFC | *I | Nov 26 20:17 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] I would very much like to do that. Like I said, there's a bug in the offline handlers that hasn't been distributing properly. | Nov 26 20:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] You have a very strong point. | Nov 26 20:18 | |
| DaemonFC | not a textbook repair but it ended up costing me about $1 worth of drain sealant and not a $90 headlight cover | Nov 26 20:19 |
| schestowitz | "your so right... i've put the 64bit KDE4 version on my wife'2 new laptop, it is truly excellent... it's so polished. " https://joindiaspora.com/posts/820404 | Nov 26 20:20 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Nov 26 20:20 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] As a note, fix went in around 10 or 11AM EST today. | Nov 26 20:20 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Yes of course they are different. Values can be learned without religion. It does not take long to embed a religion in a society . #power | Nov 26 20:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] http://ur1.ca/646th #sip_and_click | Nov 26 20:27 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] The fact values can be promoted by anyone is my point. In the past they have become normal if enough power is behind it. Not so much now. | Nov 26 20:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @evan @bkuhn if I'm banished from identi.ca then that makes the decision whether to make dents public somewhat easier | Nov 26 20:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I agree but in all societies we volunteer as it avoids obvious trouble for us. | Nov 26 20:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Aren't you gone yet? Go! Out! You soil my beautiful software with your presence. | Nov 26 20:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Esta Semana (2011/47) – Mais uma cambalhota do PSD relativamente ao Software Livre... « O Vigia #blog http://goo.gl/XenR6 | Nov 26 20:40 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] The context of your remark is not apparent. | Nov 26 20:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] http://identi.ca/url/60970652 | Nov 26 20:43 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Richard Fontana (fontana)'s status on Saturday, 26-Nov-11 20:30:25 UTC - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 11.35 KB | Nov 26 20:43 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/880548 "I've got Gnome3 running on Ubuntu. Perfect for me." | Nov 26 20:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Nov 26 20:47 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] The Linux Mint Blog » Blog Archive » Linux #Mint 12 “Lisa” released! - #gnulinux http://ur1.ca/647i1 | Nov 26 20:48 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Oh, right. There's a long private conversation there. | Nov 26 20:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Thanks for context. | Nov 26 20:50 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.brightsideofnews.com/news/2011/10/21/old-novell-law-suits-giving-bill-gates-grey-hair.aspx | Nov 26 20:52 |
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| koolhead17 | schestowitz i thought it was mist after cloud :D | Nov 26 20:58 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] You mean, allowing private conversations? I think it's up to individual users to decide what they do with that. | Nov 26 20:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] You can take up your complaint with @fontana on Google+ if you think that a private convo is unwarranted. | Nov 26 20:58 | |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: Mageia 2 Alpha 1 released as of yesterday :D | Nov 26 20:58 |
| sebsebseb | shame I can't just install task-gnome into the KDE version though | Nov 26 20:59 |
| sebsebseb | since some conflicting package or whatever | Nov 26 20:59 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] You might disagree but asking people to go to google if they disagree is just wrong. | Nov 26 21:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Your twisting my mellon man. | Nov 26 21:02 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-11-09/groupon-apple-adidas-amazon-google-intellectual-property.html "Barnes & Noble cited as examples Microsoft’s participation in a group of companies including Apple Inc. to buy the patents of bankrupt Novell Inc. and a three-way licensing agreement with Nokia Oyj and Mosaid Technologies Inc. " | Nov 26 21:02 |
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| schestowitz | sebsebseb: thanks for the headsup | Nov 26 21:02 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: seems to have sorted out my headset as well :D | Nov 26 21:04 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] You are right. We are all human and have our pressures. | Nov 26 21:05 | |
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| schestowitz | http://www.tomsguide.com/us/AOL-Yahoo-Alliance-Advertising-display-ads,news-13138.html | Nov 26 21:07 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I am now better identica educated. | Nov 26 21:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] The idea is that fitting in is voluntary. | Nov 26 21:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Show all 4 replies is the Identica equivalent of a country mile. :-) | Nov 26 21:13 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] I think having private conversations among groups or individuals makes a lot of sense. Necessary part of communications, really. | Nov 26 21:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Yes, that was by design. Principle of least damage; pretty bad situation to accidentally publicize a private conversation. | Nov 26 21:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] The "workaround" is to start a new conversation. | Nov 26 21:17 | |
| *ChanServ gives channel operator status to _Goblin | Nov 26 21:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] ...AND there are really few cases where that's a friendly and respectful thing to do. | Nov 26 21:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] I'd compare replying to a private email with a post to a mailing list. Really rarely called for. | Nov 26 21:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] We are not talking about the baby days though it may be important. I'm talking about adults doing what they wish or what they feel forced to | Nov 26 21:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Actually, I banished him. But if you vouch for him, the banishment is rescinded. By the power of Greyskull, so say we all. | Nov 26 21:20 | |
| schestowitz | Hey _Goblin | Nov 26 21:25 |
| _Goblin | Hi mate! | Nov 26 21:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] No, I haven't, but I'll give it a look-see. We have a separate Sphinx process that does the heavy lifting for search. I'll check it out. | Nov 26 21:27 | |
| schestowitz | Ederle LOL http://www.tgdaily.com/opinion-features/59665-how-evil-became-optional-at-google | Nov 26 21:27 |
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| schestowitz | _Goblin: how's it going? | Nov 26 21:27 |
| _Goblin | Yeah been very busy.... | Nov 26 21:28 |
| _Goblin | off an on...we will set a date for Year 2 of TB! | Nov 26 21:28 |
| _Goblin | Just need to sort a few things out....including a flaky net connection with O2 | Nov 26 21:28 |
| _Goblin | apparently its work in our area... thats why Ive been jumping off and on over the last few days | Nov 26 21:28 |
| schestowitz | Oh, I see... | Nov 26 21:29 |
| schestowitz | Well,definitely we can try to set a date for recording | Nov 26 21:29 |
| schestowitz | I will have plenty of time over the coming week | Nov 26 21:29 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] The British media has discovered the overflow from USA media. Black Friday. Prepare to suffer with easy journalism until it chokes you. | Nov 26 21:32 | |
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| _Goblin | Thats why Ive been more active in COLA...offline reading and only a small window of connection needed for replies... | Nov 26 21:34 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Come on Identizens lets look towards the future. | Nov 26 21:35 | |
| schestowitz | I think COLA has become less necessary for Linux success because Android is succeeding | Nov 26 21:46 |
| schestowitz | it's no longer 2006 :-) | Nov 26 21:46 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Microsoft to Aussie gov: Privacy rules stifle e-Health • The Register - #dirtytricks #australia #privacy http://goo.gl/Of1qI | Nov 26 21:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Are you in the three day week? | Nov 26 21:48 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Microsoft to Aussie gov: Privacy rules stifle e-Health • The Register .::. Size~: 25.88 KB | Nov 26 21:48 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] War Clouds Form over #Iran - #aipac #zionists #usa http://goo.gl/sRwro | Nov 26 21:53 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] It is not inevitable that the EU – or democracy – will survive this mess | The Guardian http://ur1.ca/649ma | Nov 26 21:55 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: It is not inevitable that the EU – or democracy – will survive this mess | Comment is free | The Guardian .::. Size~: 262.56 KB | Nov 26 21:55 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: _Goblin Which add on do you use for SKype to record? | Nov 26 21:59 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] !capitalism is about forcing people to do things. Socialism should be about fairness and wanting to help the community. | Nov 26 22:00 | |
| MinceR | should be, but isn't and never was | Nov 26 22:00 |
| _Goblin | sebsebseb: http://atdot.ch/scr/ | Nov 26 22:00 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Skype Call Recorder .::. Size~: 6.44 KB | Nov 26 22:00 |
| sebsebseb | _Goblin: yeah thanks | Nov 26 22:01 |
| _Goblin | Thats what I use | Nov 26 22:01 |
| sebsebseb | _Goblin: you sure that's the offical site? | Nov 26 22:01 |
| _Goblin | not sure... | Nov 26 22:01 |
| _Goblin | You using Mandriva? | Nov 26 22:01 |
| _Goblin | or a derivative? | Nov 26 22:01 |
| _Goblin | if so, are you sure its not in the repo's | Nov 26 22:02 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I had flashbacks there. | Nov 26 22:02 | |
| sebsebseb | _Goblin: how you get into OGG after woulds? | Nov 26 22:02 |
| sebsebseb | Mageia 2 Alpha 1 at the moment :D | Nov 26 22:02 |
| sebsebseb | seem my headset is ok now :D | Nov 26 22:02 |
| _Goblin | check the repo's... | Nov 26 22:03 |
| _Goblin | you never know... | Nov 26 22:03 |
| _Goblin | OGGS are done via audacious | Nov 26 22:03 |
| _Goblin | sorry | Nov 26 22:03 |
| _Goblin | audacity | Nov 26 22:03 |
| _Goblin | always get those two around the wrong qay | Nov 26 22:03 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] You missed my joke by almost 40 years. | Nov 26 22:03 | |
| _Goblin | *way | Nov 26 22:03 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Target #Iran: Washington's Countdown to War - #usa #israel #stateterrorism http://goo.gl/XrMM4 | Nov 26 22:07 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] You should not be expected to know. My fault & a piss poor joke. The three day week happened a long while ago. You will have to look it up. | Nov 26 22:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] this isn't happiness™ (Freedom of Choice [more]) | the illusion of choice - #media #usa http://goo.gl/E019u | Nov 26 22:13 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Missing content type. Ignoring. | Nov 26 22:13 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #DoomsDay Clock - #nuclear http://ur1.ca/64a8q | Nov 26 22:17 | |
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| sebsebseb | _Goblin: ok MP3 to OGG conversion I assume you mean | Nov 26 22:18 |
| sebsebseb | anyway was just trying to get recording working with someone in a voice thing over Pidgin, but no | Nov 26 22:18 |
| _Goblin | Yep, | Nov 26 22:18 |
| sebsebseb | _Goblin: looks like I don't need to use Windows anymore to chat to people using my headset :D | Nov 26 22:19 |
| _Goblin | I never did need Windows to chat with a headset | Nov 26 22:19 |
| sebsebseb | Mageia 2 ALpha 1 has sorted that out well I had to change some stuff in the pulseaudio control | Nov 26 22:19 |
| sebsebseb | ,but | Nov 26 22:19 |
| sebsebseb | working properly unlike when I had it working in Mandriva, but things were so low | Nov 26 22:19 |
| _Goblin | bought mine after I hadn't had windows in the home for years | Nov 26 22:19 |
| sebsebseb | well when I heard stuff out of the headset and such | Nov 26 22:19 |
| sebsebseb | I had issues with mine | Nov 26 22:20 |
| sebsebseb | seems to be ok now though :) | Nov 26 22:20 |
| _Goblin | cool | Nov 26 22:20 |
| sebsebseb | well in Mageia 2 ALpha 1 anyway | Nov 26 22:20 |
| sebsebseb | ,but pulseaudio will be more updated and such I guess so :D | Nov 26 22:20 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Judge exercises extreme sarcasm on US Bank http://identi.ca/url/60975772 | Nov 26 22:20 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Judge exercises extreme sarcasm on US Bank - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 29.18 KB | Nov 26 22:20 |
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| sebsebseb | so yeah not now, but got to set up Skype as well | Nov 26 22:20 |
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| sebsebseb | anyway going to watch The Killing recording off TV | Nov 26 22:21 |
| sebsebseb | Dannish crime thriller | Nov 26 22:21 |
| sebsebseb | quite good | Nov 26 22:21 |
| sebsebseb | series 2 | Nov 26 22:21 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Earth’s embarrassing lack of warming since 1998 | JunkScience.com - #ecotretas #agw #algorenightmare http://goo.gl/gR86R | Nov 26 22:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] NYPD "Disorder Control Unit" guidelines, snagged from inside van by arrestee http://identi.ca/url/60975848 #occupy | Nov 26 22:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] New Yorker on the origins of #OWS http://identi.ca/url/60975870 | Nov 26 22:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] It has been delivered half baked and they hope to offer normal linux tweakability in the future. | Nov 26 22:22 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Earth’s embarrassing lack of warming since 1998 | JunkScience.com .::. Size~: 103.02 KB | Nov 26 22:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: NYPD "Disorder Control Unit" guidelines, snagged from inside van by arrestee - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 27.22 KB | Nov 26 22:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: New Yorker on the origins of OWS - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 26.7 KB | Nov 26 22:22 |
| sebsebseb | _Goblin: Mageia 2 Alpha 1 yesterday and Mint 12 today | Nov 26 22:22 |
| sebsebseb | by the way | Nov 26 22:22 |
| sebsebseb | _Goblin: shame I can't just run Gnome 3 in Mageia 2 ALpah 1 though, since some conflicting package or whatever | Nov 26 22:22 |
| sebsebseb | anyway TV time | Nov 26 22:22 |
| sebsebseb | since someone was nagging me to watch TV with them and yeah | Nov 26 22:23 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] You are right. Delete should and insert is. | Nov 26 22:25 | |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: http://www.metro.co.uk/tech/882506-microsoft-tries-to-lure-staff-away-from-amazon-and-google-with-free-bacon | Nov 26 22:26 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Microsoft tries to lure staff away from Amazon and Google with free bacon | Metro.co.uk .::. Size~: 48.38 KB | Nov 26 22:26 |
| schestowitz | BACOn, jono :-) | Nov 26 22:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Bollocks. | Nov 26 22:27 | |
| schestowitz | http://news.businessweek.com/article.asp?documentKey=1376-LV11KZ0UQVI901-3MHVDA2BI1UL8TPBR4ECQ4FCKS | Nov 26 22:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Credit Suisse, BofA, Bayer, AIG, Microsoft in Court News - BusinessWeek .::. Size~: 71.62 KB | Nov 26 22:27 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Britain's Foreign Office Prepares For Riots In Europe; Sees Euro Collapse "When, Not If" | ZeroHedge #uk #collapse http://goo.gl/IFzTC | Nov 26 22:32 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Britain's Foreign Office Prepares For Riots In Europe; Sees Euro Collapse "When, Not If" | ZeroHedge .::. Size~: 174.13 KB | Nov 26 22:32 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Explain what you mean. | Nov 26 22:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] American Embassies Urged to Stockpile Local Currencies - #2009 #usa http://goo.gl/PR5xP | Nov 26 22:43 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: rikhard fsoss - Google+ - what if it is not? what if it is all about rocking other… .::. Size~: 50.15 KB | Nov 26 22:43 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Socialism = Communism what the hell are you thinking about? Where were you educated? Were you educated?. | Nov 26 22:48 | |
| _Goblin | schestowitz: see the news on Duck Duck go? - I was saying the same thing months ago thats why I took the link off my site. | Nov 26 22:50 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Senators Demand the Military Lock Up American Citizens in a “Battlefield” - #usa #policestate http://goo.gl/Gb0s6 | Nov 26 22:52 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Senators Demand the Military Lock Up American Citizens in a “Battlefield” They Define as Being Right Outside Your Window » Blog of Rights: Official Blog of the American Civil Liberties Union .::. Size~: 44.4 KB | Nov 26 22:52 |
| schestowitz | What's the news? | Nov 26 22:54 |
| schestowitz | !google duck duck go microsoft?\ | Nov 26 22:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Duck Duck Go - Union Square Ventures: A New York Venture ... | http://www.usv.com/2011/10/duck-duck-go.php | Nov 26 22:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - DuckDuckGo Raises Money From Union Square Ventures - Search ... | http://searchenginewatch.com/article/2118842/DuckDuckGo-Raises-Money-From-Union-Square-Ventures | Nov 26 22:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Microsoft employees Topics at DuckDuckGo | http://duckduckgo.com/1/c/Microsoft_employees | Nov 26 22:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - DuckDuckGo: Another Front End to Microsoft for Some Queries ... | http://techrights.org/2011/07/19/to-microsoft-in-search/ | Nov 26 22:54 |
| schestowitz | What's the news? | Nov 26 22:54 |
| schestowitz | http://news.google.com/nwshp?hl=en&tab=wn | Nov 26 22:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Google News .::. Size~: 573.21 KB | Nov 26 22:59 |
| schestowitz | Still can't see anything of interest http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&gl=uk&tbm=nws&q=duckduckgo&btnG=Search | Nov 26 23:00 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] What did I say that was not polite? | Nov 26 23:03 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] It is not about winning and loosing, they are terms for children. #cooperation its what the real adults are doing. | Nov 26 23:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Free Speech gone already? www.p2pnet.net/story/54978/ !CDNpoli #americancensorship | Nov 26 23:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @parlementum Strange world indeed when an MP from Iceland is one of the main defenders of the 1st & 4th Amendments in the US. Where i ... | Nov 26 23:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @birgittaj Notice of Appeal from lawyers of Jacob Appelbaum, Rop Gonggrijp, and Birgitta Jonsdottir (PDF) http://t.co/JJqtYoem #WikiL ... | Nov 26 23:13 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting application/pdf type | Nov 26 23:13 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/880548 "I've got Gnome3 running on Ubuntu. Perfect for me." | Nov 26 23:37 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/820404 "your so right... i've put the 64bit KDE4 version on my wife'2 new laptop, it is truly excellent... it's so polished." | Nov 26 23:38 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Nov 26 23:39 |
| _Goblin | schestowitz: sorry Roy.... http://www.muktware.com/news/3012?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+muktware%2Ffeeds+%28Muktware+Newsletter%29 | Nov 26 23:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Nov 26 23:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: DuckDuckGo Results No Better Than Bing, Becomes Default Search Engine Of Linux Mint | Muktware .::. Size~: 39.08 KB | Nov 26 23:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Ubuntu’s Pangolin polish http://ur1.ca/64cbk #ubuntu #canonical | Nov 26 23:43 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Ubuntu’s Pangolin polish « Software « MyBroadband Tech and IT News .::. Size~: 49.17 KB | Nov 26 23:43 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #LinuxMint 12 Lisa Has Been Released http://ur1.ca/64chj for real now? | Nov 26 23:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] !tzaf Identizens, nice to see the conversation working again. | Nov 26 23:53 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Linux Mint 12 Lisa Has Been Released | Release Notes | Download | LinuxNov .::. Size~: 52.34 KB | Nov 26 23:53 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Sleep tight. | Nov 26 23:55 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/895638 | Nov 26 23:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Nov 26 23:59 |
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