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| schestowitz | #Twitter is owned by the "1%" now (top 0.000001% to be more accurate). | Dec 22 00:00 |
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| schestowitz | With its new paywalls almost everywhere, the #NewYorkTImes is officially not a paper for the poor. Only the rich can learn... or unlearn. | Dec 22 00:05 |
| schestowitz | The Wall Street Journal Has Not Heard About the Housing Bubble http://goo.gl/DjFzm #rupertmurdoch #wallstreet #bubble #us | Dec 22 00:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Dec 22 00:05 |
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| XFaCE | schestowitz: http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/Torrentfreak/~3/u-lgPKm6qWQ/ | Dec 22 00:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Dec 22 00:39 |
| XFaCE | delicious | Dec 22 00:39 |
| *XFaCE gives voice to Diablo-D3 | Dec 22 00:39 | |
| *XFaCE gives channel operator status to Diablo-D3 | Dec 22 00:39 | |
| *XFaCE gives voice to koolhead17 | Dec 22 00:39 | |
| MinceR | oh, so IP addresses _don't_ identify the culprit, suddenly? | Dec 22 00:41 |
| MinceR | http://torrentfreak.com/french-presidents-residence-busted-for-bittorrent-piracy-111215/ | Dec 22 00:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Dec 22 00:43 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: on a lighter note, another red hat clones has been developed | Dec 22 00:49 |
| XFaCE | PUIAS Linux | Dec 22 00:49 |
| MinceR | :) | Dec 22 00:49 |
| XFaCE | http://distrowatch.com/7036 | Dec 22 00:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Distribution Release: PUIAS Linux 6.2 (DistroWatch.com News) .::. Size~: 115.26 KB | Dec 22 00:49 |
| XFaCE | at face value, I can't see how it is that different from CentOS | Dec 22 00:49 |
| XFaCE | ". It is maintained by the Institute for Advanced Study at Princeton University in the USA." | Dec 22 00:49 |
| MinceR | i've heard complaints of CentOS lagging behind RHEL | Dec 22 00:50 |
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| xjasonx | was on the playstation community forums and found this: http://community.us.playstation.com/thread/3894837?start=0&tstart=0 | Dec 22 01:00 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: PS Suite might be Mono (Gnome) | PlayStation® Community Forums .::. Size~: 82.36 KB | Dec 22 01:01 |
| xjasonx | it's confirmed | Dec 22 01:01 |
| xjasonx | PlaystationSuite is MONO-based | Dec 22 01:01 |
| xjasonx | anyone awake? | Dec 22 01:02 |
| xjasonx | MinceR? Diablo-D3? | Dec 22 01:02 |
| xjasonx | cubezzz? | Dec 22 01:02 |
| Diablo-D3 | what? | Dec 22 01:02 |
| xjasonx | I'm guesing cubezzz is asleep :) | Dec 22 01:03 |
| Diablo-D3 | meh, no one cares about sony | Dec 22 01:03 |
| MinceR | i think someone mentioned some playstation something being mono-based | Dec 22 01:03 |
| MinceR | i don't remember about the details | Dec 22 01:03 |
| xjasonx | oh | Dec 22 01:03 |
| MinceR | and i don't care much, considering sony's history of screwing their users :> | Dec 22 01:03 |
| xjasonx | true | Dec 22 01:03 |
| xjasonx | *my* concern is more that MONO isn't dead yet | Dec 22 01:04 |
| xjasonx | I was hoping it was dead and gone | Dec 22 01:04 |
| Diablo-D3 | erm | Dec 22 01:04 |
| Diablo-D3 | it was never alive. | Dec 22 01:04 |
| xjasonx | Diablo-D3: all of the Google NaCl demos were MONO-based as well | Dec 22 01:04 |
| Diablo-D3 | now that I doubt | Dec 22 01:04 |
| xjasonx | does that not concern you? | Dec 22 01:04 |
| MinceR | well, that's sad if true | Dec 22 01:04 |
| MinceR | since it wastes the main point of NaCl | Dec 22 01:05 |
| Diablo-D3 | it doesnt concern me because nacl is stillborn | Dec 22 01:05 |
| MinceR | why go through hoops to run a bad clone of Java if you can just run Java applets? | Dec 22 01:05 |
| xjasonx | don't ask me | Dec 22 01:06 |
| xjasonx | I always assumed NaCl was part of theor ChromeOS strategy | Dec 22 01:06 |
| xjasonx | their | Dec 22 01:06 |
| MinceR | i think it is | Dec 22 01:06 |
| MinceR | but i've never heard of google pushing mono | Dec 22 01:06 |
| MinceR | before, that is | Dec 22 01:07 |
| xjasonx | let me quote: | Dec 22 01:07 |
| xjasonx | Google Native Client Google Engineers ported Mono to run on the sandboxed environment of Native Client. Last year they had added support for Mono code generator to output code for Native Client using Mono's static compiler. This year Google extended Native Client to support Just in Time Compilation, in particular, Mono's brand of JIT compilation. This was used by all three demos shown at the Google Native Client event a couple o | Dec 22 01:07 |
| MinceR | i don't see why google even allows this | Dec 22 01:07 |
| Diablo-D3 | xjasonx: quotes are useless without URLs | Dec 22 01:07 |
| MinceR | seeing how mono is a trap set up by their most bitter enemy | Dec 22 01:07 |
| Diablo-D3 | but like I said, NaCL is stillborn | Dec 22 01:08 |
| xjasonx | http://tirania.org/blog/archive/2011/Dec-21.html | Dec 22 01:08 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Mono in 2011 - Miguel de Icaza .::. Size~: 42.65 KB | Dec 22 01:08 |
| Diablo-D3 | so who cares | Dec 22 01:08 |
| Diablo-D3 | xjasonx: ahh, thats miguel's blog? thats not a source. | Dec 22 01:08 |
| MinceR | i don't consider icaza to be a credible source here | Dec 22 01:08 |
| xjasonx | I don't like the guy, but I don't think he'd lie about that | Dec 22 01:09 |
| MinceR | all he does is push m$ visual java in any way he can | Dec 22 01:09 |
| xjasonx | I know | Dec 22 01:09 |
| xjasonx | anyway, I pointed out a few days ago that Bastion (one of the games demoed by Google for NaCl had to be MONO-based because it used XNA) | Dec 22 01:10 |
| MinceR | well, if what he says is true then someone really dropped the ball at google | Dec 22 01:10 |
| xjasonx | all I've been able to confirm so far as Bastion, but I don't even know what the other demos were | Dec 22 01:11 |
| xjasonx | because that's the main one everyone are talking about | Dec 22 01:11 |
| xjasonx | MinceR: yes, this is why I am concerned | Dec 22 01:11 |
| MinceR | i also don't see why sony would be stupid enough to build on mono | Dec 22 01:11 |
| xjasonx | me neither | Dec 22 01:11 |
| MinceR | again, controlled and owned by their most bitter enemy | Dec 22 01:11 |
| xjasonx | exactly | Dec 22 01:12 |
| xjasonx | might be good if schestowitz poked his contacts at google to get the what's up | Dec 22 01:14 |
| xjasonx | and maybe pull the crackpipe out of their hands | Dec 22 01:15 |
| MinceR | :) | Dec 22 01:15 |
| xjasonx | I'm honstly way more concerned about google | Dec 22 01:15 |
| MinceR | so am i | Dec 22 01:15 |
| xjasonx | however... and here's the thing | Dec 22 01:16 |
| xjasonx | Playstation seems to be pushing MONO as their preferred APIs | Dec 22 01:16 |
| xjasonx | with them and XBox on the C#/.NET bandwagon | Dec 22 01:16 |
| xjasonx | and MONO also available on Wii | Dec 22 01:16 |
| xjasonx | I'm worried game dev studios might start using it | Dec 22 01:17 |
| MinceR | i'm also worried that the only gaming console that survives will be the suxbox | Dec 22 01:17 |
| xjasonx | miguel's blog also mentions that some steam games are now bundled with MONO | Dec 22 01:17 |
| xjasonx | that is worrisome | Dec 22 01:17 |
| MinceR | m$ will screw sony and nintendo to death if they let them | Dec 22 01:17 |
| xjasonx | MinceR: yea | Dec 22 01:17 |
| xjasonx | and xbox sucks hardcore | Dec 22 01:17 |
| xjasonx | I liked my playstation (I don't have a ps3 because I can't afford one yet) | Dec 22 01:18 |
| xjasonx | but now I don't think I want one | Dec 22 01:18 |
| xjasonx | if playstation are moving to MONO | Dec 22 01:18 |
| xjasonx | I mean, I was starting to not want one anyway due to all the hacks | Dec 22 01:19 |
| xjasonx | and the way Sony dealt with it | Dec 22 01:19 |
| xjasonx | but this is like the last nail in the coffin | Dec 22 01:19 |
| MinceR | there's also the Other OS fiasco | Dec 22 01:19 |
| xjasonx | yea | Dec 22 01:19 |
| xjasonx | I basically wanted to be a programmer becaue I wanted to write games for consoles | Dec 22 01:20 |
| MinceR | then again, i don't think i hold much of a stake in gaming consoles anyway | Dec 22 01:20 |
| xjasonx | but I am getting seriously dissatisfied with where things are going | Dec 22 01:20 |
| xjasonx | well, the thing is user interaction is more innovative with consoles | Dec 22 01:21 |
| xjasonx | at least night now | Dec 22 01:21 |
| xjasonx | and I don't see pc's catching up in that way anytime soon | Dec 22 01:22 |
| MinceR | that doesn't affect my favorite genres :> | Dec 22 01:22 |
| xjasonx | heh | Dec 22 01:24 |
| xjasonx | what are your faves? | Dec 22 01:24 |
| MinceR | FPS, RTS | Dec 22 01:24 |
| xjasonx | ah | Dec 22 01:24 |
| xjasonx | I want to see Steam on Linux | Dec 22 01:25 |
| xjasonx | that is my #1 christmas wish every year :) | Dec 22 01:25 |
| MinceR | i'd rather see the games than the DRM platform :> | Dec 22 01:25 |
| MinceR | preferably without DRM | Dec 22 01:25 |
| xjasonx | the thing is | Dec 22 01:25 |
| xjasonx | Steam would *bring* games | Dec 22 01:26 |
| xjasonx | anyways, I gotta get dinner | Dec 22 01:27 |
| xjasonx | starving | Dec 22 01:27 |
| MinceR | good appetite | Dec 22 01:27 |
| xjasonx | thanks | Dec 22 01:27 |
| xjasonx | have a merry xmas in case I don't see you again | Dec 22 01:27 |
| Diablo-D3 | steam works in wine | Dec 22 01:27 |
| Diablo-D3 | so w/e | Dec 22 01:27 |
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| MinceR | doesn't work too well, afaict | Dec 22 01:29 |
| MinceR | (in fact, iirc i couldn't even get it to install) | Dec 22 01:29 |
| MinceR | also, that won't help native GNU/Linux games, even if native GNU/Linux Steam did | Dec 22 01:29 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: er | Dec 22 01:30 |
| Diablo-D3 | works fine for me | Dec 22 01:30 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: and thats not true | Dec 22 01:31 |
| Diablo-D3 | theres at least one game on steam that installs a linux binary on the windows install | Dec 22 01:31 |
| MinceR | and will the winblows version of steam running under wine manage to launch that binary? | Dec 22 01:32 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: dunno, but the linux version doesnt depend on steam to function | Dec 22 01:32 |
| Diablo-D3 | and you're doing it wrong anyhow | Dec 22 01:33 |
| MinceR | if the average user can't launch the game from steam, they won't deploy it over steam | Dec 22 01:33 |
| Diablo-D3 | steam is a package manager | Dec 22 01:33 |
| Diablo-D3 | why would I want ANOTHER package manager on linux when my distro already comes with one? | Dec 22 01:33 |
| Diablo-D3 | thats more windows braindamage. | Dec 22 01:33 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: there ARE games that sell on steam that ALSO sell on linux | Dec 22 01:34 |
| MinceR | do they only sell those games via steam? | Dec 22 01:35 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: so anyone who says steam should be on linux is talking out their ass | Dec 22 01:35 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: nope, they sell it on their website too | Dec 22 01:35 |
| Diablo-D3 | you buy the linux license directly from them | Dec 22 01:35 |
| MinceR | so much for that argument, then | Dec 22 01:35 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: let me repeat what I said: linux only needs ONE package manager, steam is a package manager | Dec 22 01:36 |
| MinceR | i don't mind multiple package managers | Dec 22 01:37 |
| MinceR | but i personally don't are for steam, like i said | Dec 22 01:37 |
| Diablo-D3 | why the fuck would you want more than one? | Dec 22 01:37 |
| Diablo-D3 | might as well have every program have its own update process | Dec 22 01:37 |
| Diablo-D3 | so when I boot linux I get 9000 prompts to update shit | Dec 22 01:37 |
| MinceR | to access multiple kinds of repositories, for example | Dec 22 01:37 |
| Diablo-D3 | one for flash, one for acrobat reader, one for firefox, one for photoshop, one for java, and so forth | Dec 22 01:37 |
| Diablo-D3 | thats fucking stupid | Dec 22 01:37 |
| Diablo-D3 | I have one apt-get, and thats the way it stays. | Dec 22 01:38 |
| MinceR | what do you do if something doesn't come with a .deb package? | Dec 22 01:38 |
| Diablo-D3 | that is a very fucking small minority | Dec 22 01:38 |
| MinceR | the question still stands | Dec 22 01:38 |
| *Diablo-D3 thinks | Dec 22 01:38 | |
| Diablo-D3 | that'd be just eclipse. | Dec 22 01:38 |
| Diablo-D3 | and eclipse uses java, and java is in the deb main repo. | Dec 22 01:39 |
| MinceR | so? | Dec 22 01:39 |
| Diablo-D3 | eclipse isnt a program | Dec 22 01:39 |
| Diablo-D3 | I dont consider any java an actual binary | Dec 22 01:39 |
| Diablo-D3 | its just silly bytecode | Dec 22 01:39 |
| MinceR | what is it, then? | Dec 22 01:39 |
| MinceR | a document? | Dec 22 01:39 |
| Diablo-D3 | its a couple files in a zip file. | Dec 22 01:39 |
| MinceR | most applications can exist in that form | Dec 22 01:40 |
| Diablo-D3 | its like saying a python or perl script is a program | Dec 22 01:40 |
| MinceR | that doesn't mean that automatic updates are no longer applicable to them | Dec 22 01:40 |
| MinceR | well yes, scripts are programs | Dec 22 01:40 |
| Diablo-D3 | btw | Dec 22 01:40 |
| Diablo-D3 | eclipse IS in deb | Dec 22 01:40 |
| Diablo-D3 | its just usually outdated. | Dec 22 01:40 |
| MinceR | for example, i have some R packages installed that don't have debs or rpms, iirc | Dec 22 01:41 |
| Diablo-D3 | so basically, theres nothing I can think of that I run thats not in a deb | Dec 22 01:41 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: well, look at cpan | Dec 22 01:41 |
| MinceR | probably some cpan packages too | Dec 22 01:41 |
| Diablo-D3 | even if a deb doesnt exist, debian has a cpan->deb tool | Dec 22 01:41 |
| Diablo-D3 | so I _still_ get debs. | Dec 22 01:41 |
| MinceR | that's a rare case | Dec 22 01:41 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: if it doesnt have a deb, its not managed by a package manager | Dec 22 01:44 |
| Diablo-D3 | ergo, I _still_ dont have multiple package managers | Dec 22 01:44 |
| Diablo-D3 | look at windows though | Dec 22 01:45 |
| Diablo-D3 | every different fucking app has a fucking manager | Dec 22 01:45 |
| MinceR | windows has no package managers | Dec 22 01:45 |
| Diablo-D3 | its part of the installer | Dec 22 01:45 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: but thats the thing | Dec 22 01:45 |
| Diablo-D3 | it IS one | Dec 22 01:45 |
| MinceR | just per-package update managers | Dec 22 01:45 |
| MinceR | which is entirely different | Dec 22 01:45 |
| Diablo-D3 | thats what Im saying | Dec 22 01:45 |
| MinceR | (and braindead) | Dec 22 01:45 |
| Diablo-D3 | its a per app package manager | Dec 22 01:45 |
| Diablo-D3 | all different | Dec 22 01:45 |
| MinceR | and not what i'm talking about | Dec 22 01:45 |
| Diablo-D3 | at least apple and steam "fix" that | Dec 22 01:45 |
| MinceR | ruby gems aren't per-app, cpan isn't per-app, steam isn't per-app, etc. | Dec 22 01:45 |
| Diablo-D3 | see above. | Dec 22 01:46 |
| MinceR | those shiny cross-distro package manager attempts aren't per-app | Dec 22 01:46 |
| MinceR | and neither is stow | Dec 22 01:46 |
| Diablo-D3 | and I do not recognize ruby gems. | Dec 22 01:46 |
| MinceR | that's your problem | Dec 22 01:46 |
| Diablo-D3 | they repeated the mistake perl did | Dec 22 01:46 |
| Diablo-D3 | which is stupid | Dec 22 01:46 |
| MinceR | (same with python eggs or whatever) | Dec 22 01:46 |
| MinceR | ctan, cran | Dec 22 01:47 |
| Diablo-D3 | all the same mistake. | Dec 22 01:48 |
| Diablo-D3 | but w/e, unlike you, I have shit to do | Dec 22 01:48 |
| MinceR | lol | Dec 22 01:48 |
| Diablo-D3 | when was the last time YOU wrote open source? eh? | Dec 22 01:49 |
| MinceR | it must suck to have a single-tasking mind | Dec 22 01:49 |
| MinceR | it was probably two years ago | Dec 22 01:50 |
| MinceR | didn't really have time for it since | Dec 22 01:50 |
| Diablo-D3 | so like I said, unlike you, I have shit to do | Dec 22 01:51 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: and you also suck at large scale development, distractions are always bad | Dec 22 01:52 |
| Diablo-D3 | especially when you're trying to write a working arithemtic coder for fp that isnt failtastic like cabac is | Dec 22 01:52 |
| MinceR | unlike you, i'm on holiday :> | Dec 22 01:53 |
| Diablo-D3 | vacations are for weaklings. | Dec 22 01:53 |
| MinceR | go back to work, stakhanov | Dec 22 01:54 |
| scientes | ooo argument | Dec 22 02:02 |
| XFaCE | [19:49] <MinceR> i've heard complaints of CentOS lagging behind RHEL | Dec 22 02:10 |
| XFaCE | yeah, but since 6.2 was released much more quickly, maybe there has been improvement in that regard | Dec 22 02:11 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: Apparently, the problems with Steam Games in terms of performance can be reduced with DirectX installation in Wine | Dec 22 02:13 |
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| Diablo-D3 | XFaCE: but you dont install DX in wine. | Dec 22 02:40 |
| Diablo-D3 | so problem solved | Dec 22 02:40 |
| XFaCE | Diablo-D3: Err what? | Dec 22 02:41 |
| XFaCE | Of course you don't have to | Dec 22 02:41 |
| XFaCE | but it does help performance | Dec 22 02:41 |
| Diablo-D3 | no, you _should never_ | Dec 22 02:41 |
| Diablo-D3 | I dont care if its allowed | Dec 22 02:41 |
| Diablo-D3 | it fucks the wine install up too much | Dec 22 02:41 |
| Diablo-D3 | and wine wont support your fuckup | Dec 22 02:41 |
| MinceR | gn | Dec 22 02:56 |
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| Diablo-D3 | ooh | Dec 22 05:03 |
| Diablo-D3 | identica is back up | Dec 22 05:03 |
| Diablo-D3 | time to crash their db again | Dec 22 05:06 |
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| oiaohm | Boy its beening strange. I have a case of the shrinking debian. | Dec 22 05:11 |
| cubezzz | shrinking debian? | Dec 22 05:12 |
| oiaohm | Have not reduce the number of packages installed infact increased yet it taking less disc space. | Dec 22 05:12 |
| Diablo-D3 | LOL | Dec 22 05:12 |
| Diablo-D3 | I just hit the too many notices error | Dec 22 05:12 |
| Diablo-D3 | lolbacklog | Dec 22 05:12 |
| Diablo-D3 | oiaohm: thats not abnormal | Dec 22 05:12 |
| Diablo-D3 | upstream projects dont always grow, sometimes they shrink | Dec 22 05:13 |
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| Diablo-D3 | and now Ive finished my backlog. | Dec 22 05:18 |
| Diablo-D3 | wheres the identibot? =/ | Dec 22 05:18 |
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| cubezzz | Diablo-D3, there's a book out by Roger Penrose you might be interested in | Dec 22 05:26 |
| cubezzz | 'What happened before the Big Bang' | Dec 22 05:26 |
| DaemonFC | who cares about identicrap? | Dec 22 05:27 |
| DaemonFC | the half the time it is up and running, anything you post to it is automatically under a CC sharealike license | Dec 22 05:27 |
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| Diablo-D3 | cubezzz: is it religious or scientific? | Dec 22 05:30 |
| cubezzz | Penrose is a major scientist | Dec 22 05:30 |
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| DaemonFC | I'd like to see someone sue one of those companies that snapshots Facebook and hands copies of profiles to potential employers | Dec 22 05:31 |
| DaemonFC | for copyright infringement | Dec 22 05:31 |
| cubezzz | correction, the exact title is "What came before the Big Bang? Cycles of Time" | Dec 22 05:31 |
| cubezzz | English mathematical Physicist | Dec 22 05:32 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.ghacks.net/2011/12/22/mozilla-rushes-to-release-firefox-9-0-1/ | Dec 22 05:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Mozilla Rushes To Release Firefox 9.0.1 .::. Size~: 31.92 KB | Dec 22 05:35 |
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| DaemonFC | I hate BlOOoated Office | Dec 22 06:19 |
| DaemonFC | *rabble rabble rabble* | Dec 22 06:19 |
| DaemonFC | This is wonderful | Dec 22 06:21 |
| DaemonFC | Ubuntu doesn't ship LibreOffice with global menu support | Dec 22 06:21 |
| DaemonFC | and instead of naming it something obvious that the user will likely find, like libreoffice-globalmenu | Dec 22 06:21 |
| DaemonFC | they name it lo-menubar | Dec 22 06:22 |
| DaemonFC | like anyone is going to search for that | Dec 22 06:22 |
| DaemonFC | LibreOffice needs to lose a lot more weight | Dec 22 06:24 |
| DaemonFC | they are so determined to mimic every bullet point feature from Microsoft Office, regardless of whether or not anyone uses it, that they've probably doubled the size that each component needs to be to do what most users do with it | Dec 22 06:24 |
| DaemonFC | I think a LibreOffice exorcism may be in order on this system too | Dec 22 06:25 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, what the hell | Dec 22 06:26 |
| DaemonFC | might as well be consistent with my other system and put in Calligra | Dec 22 06:26 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: really Libreoffice has lost a lot of weight. | Dec 22 06:29 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: I do agree they need to lose more. | Dec 22 06:29 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, that should scare the hell out of anyone that wants to say OOo is still around | Dec 22 06:29 |
| DaemonFC | OOo is even more obese | Dec 22 06:29 |
| DaemonFC | OOobese Office | Dec 22 06:29 |
| oiaohm | But the items like coping bullet point features of MS Office are kinda required. | Dec 22 06:30 |
| oiaohm | Goverment departments love messing with them. | Dec 22 06:30 |
| DaemonFC | the entire Calligra suite is roughly half the size of LibreOffice | Dec 22 06:31 |
| cubezzz | antiword, xls2csv | Dec 22 06:31 |
| oiaohm | Yes I do think there needs to be way to hide the ones that don't suit your own personal tastes or have not been used in the document. | Dec 22 06:31 |
| DaemonFC | it loads faster | Dec 22 06:31 |
| DaemonFC | it uses far less RAM | Dec 22 06:31 |
| DaemonFC | and it does what I want it to do, integrates with KDE, and has a wonderful layout | Dec 22 06:31 |
| oiaohm | Calligra needs to gain about another 14 perecent. | Dec 22 06:31 |
| oiaohm | and Libreoffice still needs to lose a lot. | Dec 22 06:31 |
| oiaohm | Java parts explains a lot of Libreoffice weight. | Dec 22 06:32 |
| DaemonFC | Ubuntu doesn't include those parts | Dec 22 06:32 |
| DaemonFC | hmmm, while I'm messing with the stuff........ | Dec 22 06:34 |
| DaemonFC | Amarok 2.5 has been backported to Kubuntu | Dec 22 06:34 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Dec 22 06:34 |
| DaemonFC | oh oh oh | Dec 22 06:36 |
| DaemonFC | DO WANT!!! | Dec 22 06:36 |
| DaemonFC | DO WANT!!! | Dec 22 06:36 |
| DaemonFC | KDE 4.8 beta is packaged | Dec 22 06:36 |
| DaemonFC | might as well try it out on a secondary system | Dec 22 06:37 |
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| DaemonFC | if it's not full of bugs or something I might migrate my main system to it | Dec 22 06:37 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: KDE beta's normally are stay well clear. | Dec 22 06:39 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: KDE developers are very truthful about quality. | Dec 22 06:39 |
| DaemonFC | the last time I had a really bad experience with a pre-release was when I tried one of their alphas | Dec 22 06:40 |
| DaemonFC | and everythign was broken | Dec 22 06:40 |
| DaemonFC | but, I'm not saying I wasn't warned | Dec 22 06:40 |
| DaemonFC | the beta of KDE 4.5 had crash issues with Dolphin | Dec 22 06:41 |
| DaemonFC | that's the last pre-release I've used | Dec 22 06:41 |
| eebrah | join bbg | Dec 22 06:41 |
| DaemonFC | oiaohm: They're making progress now at least | Dec 22 06:42 |
| eebrah | sorry! typo | Dec 22 06:42 |
| DaemonFC | fixing bugs faster than they are being reported | Dec 22 06:42 |
| DaemonFC | I might as well start using Precise if I go much further | Dec 22 06:44 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Dec 22 06:44 |
| DaemonFC | I'm already using backported Linux 3.2 kernels | Dec 22 06:46 |
| DaemonFC | and git builds of Mesa | Dec 22 06:46 |
| DaemonFC | and X.org server 1.11.3 | Dec 22 06:46 |
| DaemonFC | oiaohm: What do you think about the next Ubuntu LTS desktop having 5 years of support | Dec 22 06:48 |
| DaemonFC | you figure it will convince any RHEL desktop users to migrate over? | Dec 22 06:48 |
| DaemonFC | I noticed that RHEL's workstation licensing is exorbitant | Dec 22 06:49 |
| DaemonFC | just to use it on a desktop with no support options other than access to documentation is $50 a year | Dec 22 06:50 |
| DaemonFC | that's pretty steep when you get no support | Dec 22 06:50 |
| DaemonFC | you could get CentOS for free if you were to go that route | Dec 22 06:50 |
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| DaemonFC | well, kwin sped up a lot | Dec 22 06:56 |
| DaemonFC | Sysinfo for 'ryan-MS-7501': Linux 3.2.0-5-generic running KDE Development Platform 4.7.90 (4.8 Beta2 (4.7.90), CPU: AMDPhenomIIX4945 at 800 MHz (5987 bogomips), HD: 26/923GB, RAM: 3222/7986MB, 174 proc's, 2.27h up | Dec 22 06:56 |
| DaemonFC | by a lot I mean a lot | Dec 22 06:57 |
| DaemonFC | a few plasma themes seem to not work right now though | Dec 22 07:00 |
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| DaemonFC | kwin's memory usage is down too | Dec 22 07:07 |
| DaemonFC | time to try the OpenGL ES version | Dec 22 07:10 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: I don't use redhat it too expenisve most of the time. | Dec 22 07:11 |
| DaemonFC | they removed the kwin option to use indirect rendering | Dec 22 07:11 |
| DaemonFC | direct rendering is now mandatory | Dec 22 07:11 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: Scientific Linux is what I use instead of Redhat | Dec 22 07:11 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: basically the same other than the price tag. | Dec 22 07:12 |
| DaemonFC | CentOS too | Dec 22 07:12 |
| oiaohm | CentOS is more poorly maintained. | Dec 22 07:12 |
| DaemonFC | I'm encouraged by their promptness with 6.2 | Dec 22 07:13 |
| DaemonFC | but they have a spotty record | Dec 22 07:13 |
| oiaohm | Cern and other research groups behind Scientific Linux normally are better. | Dec 22 07:13 |
| oiaohm | Ubuntu still manages to tweak stuff to much | Dec 22 07:13 |
| oiaohm | So causing strange out of no where issues. | Dec 22 07:14 |
| DaemonFC | the quality of Kubuntu is a lot better than it used to be | Dec 22 07:15 |
| DaemonFC | they turned around starting around the 10.04 release | Dec 22 07:15 |
| DaemonFC | back when they were on KDE 3 I had a lot of issues that never happened on any other KDE distro | Dec 22 07:15 |
| DaemonFC | then when they ditched KDE 3, KDE 4 itself was a disaster for the first few releases | Dec 22 07:16 |
| DaemonFC | khtml 4.8 scores 92/100 on acid 3 | Dec 22 07:18 |
| DaemonFC | 4.7 scored 87 | Dec 22 07:19 |
| DaemonFC | it scores 93 + 6 on html5test.com, 4.7 was in the 70s | Dec 22 07:19 |
| DaemonFC | someone has been working on khtml a little bit | Dec 22 07:19 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: apple | Dec 22 07:36 |
| oiaohm | khtml is using more and more webkit | Dec 22 07:36 |
| DaemonFC | eventually, they plan to drop khtml and use webkit | Dec 22 07:37 |
| DaemonFC | but that will most likely not happen until KDE 5 | Dec 22 07:37 |
| oiaohm | Not completely. | Dec 22 07:38 |
| oiaohm | of course | Dec 22 07:38 |
| oiaohm | Ie complete is kde 5 | Dec 22 07:38 |
| oiaohm | but heading in that direction khtml is becoming slowly more and more webkit | Dec 22 07:38 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1077960 "4.4? How come you run such an old version?" LTS | Dec 22 07:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Dec 22 07:49 |
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| schestowitz | #identica has come back on better, improved servers, but DNS needs time for changes to propagate. See it at http://50.57.205.237/ | Dec 22 07:54 |
| schestowitz | Following some server disruptions/scheduled downtimes in diaspora, around 2pm GMT (Wed.) the site stopped sending E-mail alerts. | Dec 22 07:59 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Using KDE 4.8 beta 2 | Dec 22 08:06 |
| schestowitz | DO WANT !! | Dec 22 08:09 |
| schestowitz | http://osdir.com/ml/centos-announce/2011-12/msg00038.html | Dec 22 08:10 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: centos-announce - [CentOS-announce] Release for CentOS-6.2 i386 and x86_64 - msg#00038 - OSDir.com .::. Size~: 22.82 KB | Dec 22 08:10 |
| DaemonFC | I went ahead and installed KDE 4.8 beta 2 and Amarok 2.5 | Dec 22 08:14 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: I am still on KDE 4.6 | Dec 22 08:15 |
| oiaohm | 4.6 is decent. | Dec 22 08:15 |
| oiaohm | I am a tollerent person I let others walk the path for possible random hell. | Dec 22 08:15 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: I guess under 8 years using Linux. | Dec 22 08:16 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: Age you grow tollerence to letting the younger ones go first | Dec 22 08:17 |
| DaemonFC | it feels pretty solid | Dec 22 08:20 |
| DaemonFC | the only annoyance I'd had so far is it overwrote my view preferences for tray applet visibility | Dec 22 08:20 |
| DaemonFC | but I reset those | Dec 22 08:20 |
| DaemonFC | not a big deal | Dec 22 08:20 |
| DaemonFC | *I've | Dec 22 08:20 |
| oiaohm | 4.7 kde is still classed as experminal on debian/ | Dec 22 08:21 |
| oiaohm | 4.8 does not exist yet. | Dec 22 08:21 |
| DaemonFC | Debian's KDE team sucks | Dec 22 08:21 |
| DaemonFC | they really do | Dec 22 08:21 |
| DaemonFC | they have the same godawful update policies the rest of Debian does | Dec 22 08:21 |
| DaemonFC | so things get frozen in time in Stable, bugs and all | Dec 22 08:22 |
| DaemonFC | and if you use Testing or Sid, they're still never up to date with major or minor releases | Dec 22 08:22 |
| DaemonFC | they seem to just randomly pick versions to package and skip | Dec 22 08:22 |
| schestowitz | KDE in Debian stable comes with a lot of goodies preinstalled | Dec 22 08:23 |
| oiaohm | I running testing DaemonFC | Dec 22 08:23 |
| schestowitz | compared to Kubuntu anyway | Dec 22 08:23 |
| DaemonFC | Debian's package update policies suck hard | Dec 22 08:23 |
| oiaohm | And it find that I don't hit many glitches. | Dec 22 08:24 |
| oiaohm | At least not like what I hit with Kubuntu | Dec 22 08:24 |
| DaemonFC | Kubuntu is a much better KDE distribution than Debian with KDE | Dec 22 08:24 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: testing kde does get all versions. | Dec 22 08:24 |
| DaemonFC | by that I mean you can get the fucking updates | Dec 22 08:24 |
| oiaohm | stable skips versions. | Dec 22 08:24 |
| DaemonFC | which is not at all likely on Debian until the next time they decide to package some random version | Dec 22 08:25 |
| DaemonFC | there are two things about Kubuntu that aggravate me | Dec 22 08:25 |
| DaemonFC | indicator-applet plasmoid, which I disable and set things to use the system tray instead | Dec 22 08:25 |
| DaemonFC | and the fact that they set kdm to reset the X server when you log out instead of restarting it, which usually causes it to hang instead of resetting | Dec 22 08:26 |
| DaemonFC | so I have to uncomment TerminateServer=True in kdmrc | Dec 22 08:26 |
| DaemonFC | their indicator nonsense is just mind numbingly stupid | Dec 22 08:26 |
| DaemonFC | and every once in a while it likes to eat Kopete | Dec 22 08:27 |
| DaemonFC | and not give it back | Dec 22 08:27 |
| oiaohm | Stuff I don't have to put up with in debian. DaemonFC | Dec 22 08:27 |
| DaemonFC | that's another thing | Dec 22 08:27 |
| DaemonFC | I want Pulseaudio | Dec 22 08:27 |
| DaemonFC | Debian makes it a son of a bitch to set up properly | Dec 22 08:28 |
| schestowitz | what for? | Dec 22 08:28 |
| DaemonFC | so that access to the sound card isn't a race | Dec 22 08:28 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Dec 22 08:28 |
| DaemonFC | like it is with just ALSA | Dec 22 08:28 |
| DaemonFC | first one there gets the soundcard, and everything else gets to eat shit or crash | Dec 22 08:28 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Dec 22 08:28 |
| DaemonFC | Pulseaudio fixes that | Dec 22 08:28 |
| oiaohm | No | Dec 22 08:29 |
| oiaohm | Alsa without Pulseaudio on debian auto places dmix as required | Dec 22 08:29 |
| DaemonFC | dmix has never worked for me | Dec 22 08:29 |
| DaemonFC | properly anyway | Dec 22 08:29 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: It has for me. | Dec 22 08:29 |
| oiaohm | For years. | Dec 22 08:29 |
| DaemonFC | it's often worse than not configuring it at all | Dec 22 08:30 |
| DaemonFC | and Flash won't recognize it | Dec 22 08:30 |
| DaemonFC | Flash NEEDS Pulseaudio | Dec 22 08:30 |
| oiaohm | Note I have not configured dmix | Dec 22 08:30 |
| oiaohm | Wrong I run flash | Dec 22 08:30 |
| oiaohm | without pulseaudio | Dec 22 08:30 |
| DaemonFC | oh, you must not use it for streaming | Dec 22 08:30 |
| oiaohm | I do | Dec 22 08:30 |
| DaemonFC | with a USB microphone | Dec 22 08:30 |
| schestowitz | http://mrpogson.com/2011/12/21/7-designed-to-fail/ | Dec 22 08:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: “7″, Designed to Fail at Robert Pogson .::. Size~: 39.83 KB | Dec 22 08:30 |
| oiaohm | I use flash for streaming. | Dec 22 08:30 |
| DaemonFC | it won't recognize my microphone without Pulseaudio | Dec 22 08:31 |
| oiaohm | Did you strip out all pulseaudio packages | Dec 22 08:31 |
| DaemonFC | Jamie Zawinski remarked about ALSA | Dec 22 08:31 |
| oiaohm | Restoring system to default alsa | Dec 22 08:31 |
| DaemonFC | "I can't believe I even have to think about this shit. What year is it again?" | Dec 22 08:31 |
| oiaohm | under debian | Dec 22 08:31 |
| oiaohm | Then magically flash works. | Dec 22 08:32 |
| oiaohm | And finds mics | Dec 22 08:32 |
| DaemonFC | there are not Pulseaudio packages installed in Debian by default | Dec 22 08:32 |
| DaemonFC | I had to add them | Dec 22 08:32 |
| oiaohm | There are 3 | Dec 22 08:32 |
| DaemonFC | and configure it myself | Dec 22 08:32 |
| oiaohm | in by defualt | Dec 22 08:32 |
| oiaohm | That you have to nuke. | Dec 22 08:32 |
| DaemonFC | why in the hell would they do that? | Dec 22 08:32 |
| oiaohm | Dependancies off particular applciations. | Dec 22 08:33 |
| DaemonFC | oh wait, it's Debian | Dec 22 08:33 |
| DaemonFC | this should be good | Dec 22 08:33 |
| oiaohm | Namely gnome | Dec 22 08:33 |
| DaemonFC | I fucking hate Debian | Dec 22 08:33 |
| DaemonFC | there, I said it | Dec 22 08:33 |
| oiaohm | Debian I live with very well. | Dec 22 08:33 |
| oiaohm | there are only a few minor annoyances. | Dec 22 08:34 |
| oiaohm | Really pulseaudio not the cure to alsa problems either. | Dec 22 08:34 |
| DaemonFC | such as the entire system being under an inch of dust at all times | Dec 22 08:34 |
| DaemonFC | or a foot of dust if you use Stable | Dec 22 08:34 |
| oiaohm | Running the latest also means running into bugs you cannot expect. | Dec 22 08:35 |
| oiaohm | Alsa issue is really like the DRI 1 issue | Dec 22 08:36 |
| oiaohm | Alsa need so be redone in away that works. | Dec 22 08:36 |
| DaemonFC | Mesa has deleted all DRI 1 drivers anyway | Dec 22 08:36 |
| DaemonFC | at least on the trunk | Dec 22 08:36 |
| oiaohm | Placing pulseaudio on top a low level system with bugs of course is going to kill you. | Dec 22 08:36 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: exactly DRI1 design is by by. | Dec 22 08:36 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: Like per application volume controls sould be like a standard feature | Dec 22 08:37 |
| oiaohm | Not a special addon as it is with pulseaudio | Dec 22 08:37 |
| DaemonFC | should | Dec 22 08:37 |
| DaemonFC | yeah | Dec 22 08:37 |
| DaemonFC | lots of shit happens | Dec 22 08:37 |
| DaemonFC | you know, politics and all that | Dec 22 08:37 |
| oiaohm | And the slot for that information be in the process/cgroup information. | Dec 22 08:37 |
| oiaohm | then all sound systems like OSS ALSA and pulseaudio should refer to that. | Dec 22 08:38 |
| DaemonFC | OSS 4 has a lot of what Pulseaudio has had to implement | Dec 22 08:38 |
| DaemonFC | for ALSA | Dec 22 08:38 |
| oiaohm | Problem Lot of what Pulseaudio is implementing should be in core ALSA | Dec 22 08:38 |
| oiaohm | Should not be a sound server. | Dec 22 08:38 |
| DaemonFC | what do you expect from people who claim their inspiration is Windows Vista and CoreAudio (OS X)? | Dec 22 08:39 |
| oiaohm | Really OSS 4 shows the design you should be coping. | Dec 22 08:39 |
| oiaohm | Due to OSS 4 design it can use what ever the hardware is providing. | Dec 22 08:40 |
| oiaohm | So making it lighter than alsa pulseaudio | Dec 22 08:40 |
| oiaohm | Basically why run a sound server to mix audio when sound card can. | Dec 22 08:42 |
| oiaohm | When sound card cannot then you need sound server feature. | Dec 22 08:42 |
| oiaohm | Applications should not see a difference. | Dec 22 08:42 |
| oiaohm | Yes bluez audio and other crap need to be sorted out as well. | Dec 22 08:43 |
| DaemonFC | why copy OSS 4? | Dec 22 08:44 |
| DaemonFC | just replace ALSA with it | Dec 22 08:44 |
| DaemonFC | they licensed it under the GPL | Dec 22 08:44 |
| oiaohm | OSS3 was under GPL | Dec 22 08:46 |
| oiaohm | OSS4 did go under it own license for a while. | Dec 22 08:46 |
| DaemonFC | it's tri-licensed now | Dec 22 08:47 |
| DaemonFC | GPL, BSD, or commercial license you can buy from them | Dec 22 08:47 |
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| oiaohm | DaemonFC: basically the maker you cannot trust to remain friendly. | Dec 22 08:47 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: prior actions issue. | Dec 22 08:48 |
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| oiaohm | Also OSS4 is not intersted to be mainlined either DaemonFC | Dec 22 08:48 |
| oiaohm | That is one of the other disputes that blew up. | Dec 22 08:48 |
| DaemonFC | so? | Dec 22 08:50 |
| DaemonFC | take their code under the GPL and mainline it yourself | Dec 22 08:50 |
| DaemonFC | and you save yourself the trouble of fixing ALSA | Dec 22 08:50 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Dec 22 08:50 |
| oiaohm | Not exactly that simple. | Dec 22 08:50 |
| oiaohm | You can take there code and mainline but you have to keep on syncing it. | Dec 22 08:50 |
| oiaohm | Basically take OSS4 and fork off use it as a base that works | Dec 22 08:51 |
| oiaohm | most likely would be saner. | Dec 22 08:51 |
| oiaohm | Like there are things about OSS4 that are not ideal either. | Dec 22 08:51 |
| oiaohm | But out of what we have OSS4 is about the best. | Dec 22 08:52 |
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| schestowitz | http://blogs.ec.europa.eu/neelie-kroes/new-year-message/ | Dec 22 09:37 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: 3 things I learned this year: my message for the New Year « Digital Agenda Commissioner – Neelie Kroes .::. Size~: 39.73 KB | Dec 22 09:37 |
| schestowitz | identica API still seems to be down | Dec 22 09:37 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/johnkoetsier/status/149619631391391745 | Dec 22 09:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @johnkoetsier: @schestowitz But, it's a fragmented 40%, because the Kindle is Amazon's android, not Google's. | Dec 22 09:43 |
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| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/FFII/statuses/141531725384781824 http://twitter.com/FFII/statuses/141530642168029184 | Dec 22 09:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @FFII: A great day for software interoperability in Europe! | Dec 22 09:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @FFII: Software authors want to benefit from the fruits of their work. | Dec 22 09:51 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/FFII/statuses/141604287326334976 | Dec 22 09:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @FFII: Today at #DGAP - French want to export #HADOPI. | Dec 22 09:56 |
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| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/FFII/statuses/141903667069595649 | Dec 22 10:02 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @FFII: @RT_com What does Richard Stallman think about a Russian National Operating System based on Gnu/Linux? | Dec 22 10:02 |
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| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/zoobab/statuses/142550856670257152 | Dec 22 10:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @zoobab: @EDRi_org This is weak, the Ombudsman is not a court. | Dec 22 10:12 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz This is wow http://www.zdnet.com/blog/microsoft/microsoft-no-consumer-electronics-show-for-us-in-2013 | Dec 22 10:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Error processing the URL: HTTP/1.0 404 Not Found | Dec 22 10:17 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/rcweir/statuses/142713637788860416 | Dec 22 10:18 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @rcweir: OOWriter wins Linux Journal's Readers' Choice award for "Best Single Office Program", for 2nd year in a row. Congrats! #openoffice | Dec 22 10:18 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: yes, discussed this last night | Dec 22 10:18 |
| schestowitz | MS has nothing to show | Dec 22 10:18 |
| schestowitz | patent trolls can show patents | Dec 22 10:18 |
| schestowitz | But public showings are a no starter | Dec 22 10:18 |
| schestowitz | http://www.zdnetasia.com/ip-reforms-need-to-spur-innovation-economy-62303069.htm | Dec 22 10:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: IP reforms need to spur innovation, economy - ZDNet Asia News .::. Size~: 59.18 KB | Dec 22 10:19 |
| schestowitz | Elecronic shows are not about OSes | Dec 22 10:20 |
| schestowitz | But about devices | Dec 22 10:20 |
| schestowitz | MS has no devices | Dec 22 10:20 |
| schestowitz | Zune is dead | Dec 22 10:20 |
| schestowitz | Kin is dead | Dec 22 10:20 |
| schestowitz | SideKick.. | Dec 22 10:20 |
| schestowitz | And Windows is on almost no tablets or phones. | Dec 22 10:20 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/hintjens/status/142912047112400896 | Dec 22 10:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @hintjens: Back in Belgium | Dec 22 10:23 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/PiratePartyUK/status/142943047452344320 | Dec 22 10:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @PiratePartyUK: Statement from @oxfam slams #ACTA, concerned it "will harm public health". http://t.co/fqiw9z5V | Dec 22 10:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting application/pdf type | Dec 22 10:24 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: even when MS had nothing to show they normally still had a stand. | Dec 22 10:25 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: this time no stand at all. | Dec 22 10:26 |
| oiaohm | So 2012 might be there last CES | Dec 22 10:26 |
| schestowitz | but wait | Dec 22 10:26 |
| schestowitz | don't they pull out of this one as well | Dec 22 10:26 |
| schestowitz | Their shillmesister from W-E (Shaw) said something to that effect | Dec 22 10:26 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/zoobab/statuses/143609813039984641 | Dec 22 10:26 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @zoobab: Council of Ministers requires Microsoft Silverlight to watch the video, now 600 millions citizens are locked: http://t.co/VLiu2hRx | Dec 22 10:26 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Dec 22 10:26 |
| schestowitz | He's their chief liar | Dec 22 10:26 |
| schestowitz | who posts fake 'sale' figures for Vista 7 and stuff.. | Dec 22 10:27 |
| schestowitz | *Slaes | Dec 22 10:27 |
| schestowitz | *Sales | Dec 22 10:27 |
| schestowitz | LOL http://twitter.com/ksnhlaw/status/143633472613920768 http://twitter.com/zoobab/statuses/143633690193428480 | Dec 22 10:33 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @ksnhlaw: Webcast of EU Council meeting on Unitary Patent alread broke down? http://t.co/DMEn1WY0 | Dec 22 10:33 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Dec 22 10:33 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @zoobab: @ksnhlaw Here the wonderful silverlight plugin crashed. | Dec 22 10:33 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: question did they get any red screens of death. | Dec 22 10:35 |
| oiaohm | From the silverlight plugin. | Dec 22 10:35 |
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| schestowitz | Hehe... http://twitter.com/rcweir/statuses/143743671911714817 | Dec 22 10:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @rcweir: @orcmid Why? Its my twitter account. Feel free to make your own screen shots if you want. | Dec 22 10:41 |
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| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/DaHammerstein/status/143964237792948224 | Dec 22 10:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @DaHammerstein: Eric Schmidt at EU´s Innovation Convention. "It´s very important that patents aren´t used to stop things". http://t.co/uvAH7jgc | Dec 22 10:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Dec 22 10:55 |
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| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/FFII/statuses/144026773582131200 | Dec 22 10:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @FFII: @agonarch @gibus Ah! #patness = patent madness | Dec 22 10:58 |
| amarsh04 | back in a few, loading new kernel | Dec 22 11:13 |
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| MinceR | geekings | Dec 22 11:15 |
| oiaohm | Hi MinceR | Dec 22 11:17 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: http://twitter.com/TI_EU/status/144441620870332416 | Dec 22 11:38 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @TI_EU: Peter Tausz, TI Hungary: transparency should be a guiding principle in public procurement from beginning to end #EUCorruption | Dec 22 11:38 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/MacDailyNews/status/144476554339164161 | Dec 22 12:00 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @MacDailyNews: Eric Schmidt: Google's Android to top Apple's iOS among developers within 6 months http://t.co/MouR607e | Dec 22 12:00 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Dec 22 12:00 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/FFII/statuses/144489978695659520 | Dec 22 12:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @FFII: Sefcovic on why #Interoperability is important http://t.co/HCtMoWmE | Dec 22 12:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Dec 22 12:01 |
| schestowitz | what about standards? | Dec 22 12:01 |
| schestowitz | http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/aviation/crashes/what-really-happened-aboard-air-france-447-6611877 | Dec 22 12:08 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Air France 447 Flight-Data Recorder Transcript - What Really Happened Aboard Air France 447 - Popular Mechanics .::. Size~: 83.7 KB | Dec 22 12:09 |
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| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/tracyrreed/statuses/144891313496653824 | Dec 22 12:36 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @tracyrreed: People who cannot spell rogue should have rouge faces. | Dec 22 12:36 |
| MinceR | lol | Dec 22 12:40 |
| oiaohm | Bugger that would get me some days | Dec 22 12:53 |
| schestowitz | rough too | Dec 22 13:00 |
| schestowitz | ruff | Dec 22 13:00 |
| schestowitz | ryders | Dec 22 13:00 |
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| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/tracyrreed/statuses/149245118275264512 | Dec 22 13:32 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @tracyrreed: If someone asks "How big is your cloud?" what units of measurement do you offer? Meters? Kilos? Gigs? Hertz? | Dec 22 13:32 |
| MinceR | i could show him with my hands | Dec 22 13:33 |
| schestowitz | so metric measurements? | Dec 22 13:33 |
| MinceR | no | Dec 22 13:34 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/FFII/statuses/149451788196642816 | Dec 22 13:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @FFII: Do they use twitter bots to promote "Open XML" ? #ooxml | Dec 22 13:35 |
| schestowitz | http://www.neurope.eu/article/european-parliament-debates-roaming-charges | Dec 22 13:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: European Parliament debates roaming charges | New Europe .::. Size~: 113.52 KB | Dec 22 13:36 |
| schestowitz | There is a lot of policy laundering at the moment | Dec 22 13:36 |
| schestowitz | While most people are on vacation | Dec 22 13:36 |
| schestowitz | ACTA, unitary patent, more... | Dec 22 13:36 |
| schestowitz | SOBs | Dec 22 13:36 |
| schestowitz | They try to pass these when people can't do much to stop it or inform others | Dec 22 13:36 |
| schestowitz | or reach politicians by phone | Dec 22 13:36 |
| schestowitz | This society in Europe too and the political system has gone totally rogue | Dec 22 13:37 |
| schestowitz | Which makes it like rouge Russia | Dec 22 13:37 |
| MinceR | here the nazis like (or at least recently liked) to hold parliament sessions late into the morning | Dec 22 13:37 |
| MinceR | so that it wouldn't be shown on TV | Dec 22 13:38 |
| MinceR | when they make the really evil decisions | Dec 22 13:38 |
| MinceR | before that, they banned the press from their previous seats -- and only let them back when they realized that the press could make photos of the papers they read from from the new place they were moved to :> | Dec 22 13:38 |
| schestowitz | MS lobbyist: http://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/149519790187347968 | Dec 22 13:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @FOSSpatents: Workarounds and designarounds are just what Steve Jobs wanted Google and its device makers to do http://t.co/NsT9wi4r | Dec 22 13:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Dec 22 13:40 |
| schestowitz | poor Steve | Dec 22 13:40 |
| schestowitz | he tried so nicely | Dec 22 13:40 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/FFII/statuses/149523609705123840 | Dec 22 13:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @FFII: OSS strategy for internal use. What happend to the European Software Strategy? http://t.co/h9PnCeJR | Dec 22 13:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Dec 22 13:42 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/PoornimaGupta/status/149533606430253057 | Dec 22 13:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @PoornimaGupta: Yowza! Google says 700,000 Android devices activated everyday. That's 60 mln a quarter. Apple sold 28 mln iPhones, ipads in Q4. $AAPL $GOOG | Dec 22 13:43 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUpxoWZya8I | Dec 22 13:44 |
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| *XFaCE gives channel operator status to amarsh04 | Dec 22 17:53 | |
| *XFaCE gives voice to TRIdentica | Dec 22 17:53 | |
| *XFaCE gives voice to schestowitz | Dec 22 17:53 | |
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| MinceR | http://pics.blameitonthevoices.com/122011/epic_christmas_lights_decoration.jpg | Dec 22 18:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting image/jpeg type | Dec 22 18:06 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: excellenty | Dec 22 18:24 |
| MinceR | (flash) (video) (audio) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWWFmhJKJW8 | Dec 22 18:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: SLAYER CHRISTMAS LIGHTS 2011 HD - YouTube .::. Size~: 134.94 KB | Dec 22 18:24 |
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| iophk | gtg | Dec 22 20:23 |
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| *XFaCE is now playing: Yes - Hold On | Dec 22 20:29 | |
| XFaCE | Justice to the left of you | Dec 22 20:30 |
| XFaCE | Justice to the right | Dec 22 20:30 |
| XFaCE | Speak when you are spoken to | Dec 22 20:30 |
| XFaCE | But don't pretend you are right | Dec 22 20:30 |
| XFaCE | This life's not for living | Dec 22 20:30 |
| *MinceR is listening to: JumpMax - Tyrian Space Journey Part 2 (Combustion Remix) | Dec 22 20:31 | |
| *XFaCE is now playing: Genesis - No Reply At All | Dec 22 20:34 | |
| XFaCE | MinceR: Gotta have horns man! | Dec 22 20:35 |
| *MinceR is listening to: Mastgrr - The Dance Beat Report Me-Mix | Dec 22 20:35 | |
| MinceR | :) | Dec 22 20:35 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: That don't have no horns. :P | Dec 22 20:35 |
| XFaCE | trombones | Dec 22 20:35 |
| XFaCE | trumpets | Dec 22 20:35 |
| MinceR | oh, those horns? unnecessary. :> | Dec 22 20:36 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: I play trombone so F**K you | Dec 22 20:36 |
| MinceR | no u | Dec 22 20:36 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: No Reply at All is naked without horns dude | Dec 22 20:37 |
| MinceR | i don't think i know that song | Dec 22 20:37 |
| XFaCE | !google no reply at all genesis | Dec 22 20:38 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Genesis - No Reply At All - Video Dailymotion | http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1zzau_genesis-no-reply-at-all_music | Dec 22 20:38 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Genesis - No Reply At All (Three Sides Live) HQ - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DDisZ6qmNdbo | Dec 22 20:38 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Abacab - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abacab | Dec 22 20:38 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Hulu - Genesis: No Reply at All | http://www.hulu.com/watch/134780/genesis-no-reply-at-all | Dec 22 20:38 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: Hulu link is the best quality | Dec 22 20:38 |
| *MinceR is listening to: Nuclear Bubble Wrap - ScientLOLjyuuichi | Dec 22 20:39 | |
| MinceR | this one does seem to have some sorts of horns in it :> | Dec 22 20:39 |
| XFaCE | lol | Dec 22 20:39 |
| MinceR | hulu doesn't like my location | Dec 22 20:43 |
| MinceR | someone did complain about lack of horns on result [2] | Dec 22 20:43 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trmanco/@trmanco] trmanco: Please +K my influence in Photography on @klout http://t.co/OO6mUjYk | Dec 22 20:55 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Dec 22 20:55 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[torproject/@torproject] RT @eff #SOPA fans use Harvard @BerkmanCenter study to support DNS filtering; the study's authors strongly object - https://eff.org/r.M72 | Dec 22 20:56 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: John Palfrey » Blog Archive » SOPA and our 2010 Circumvention Study .::. Size~: 26.53 KB | Dec 22 20:56 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Assange play Man in the Middle shown on ch4 is the discredited Stainless Steal Rat renamed like Xe for Blackwater http://t.co/uLm2NG3f | Dec 22 21:03 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Dec 22 21:03 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jrepin/@jrepin] RT @kirschner Joining !fsfe What better place then HERE http://l.fsfe.org/join ? What better time than gNuOW? !fs !gnu | Dec 22 21:10 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Error processing the URL | Dec 22 21:10 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] More on the opportunistic Assange play Man in the Middle aka Stainless Steel Rat http://t.co/oNsmRHES further reviews at bottom | Dec 22 21:21 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Dec 22 21:21 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @mattdpearce: What do Egyptian activists read in jail? Here's @maikelnabil's wish list: http://t.co/Q0RRMdWt | Dec 22 21:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[torproject/@torproject] Indian court orders Internet sites to remove content, http://ur1.ca/6w0pr | Dec 22 21:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[docufoundation/@docufoundation] Merry Christmas from The Document Foundation: http://blog.documentfoundation.org/2011/12/22/merry-christmas-and-a-happy-new-year/ !libo !tdf | Dec 22 21:35 | |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year « The Document Foundation Blog .::. Size~: 40.29 KB | Dec 22 21:35 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] listening to my first episode of Crivens. Lamentably, it starts with a greeting from @nybill. ;) | Dec 22 21:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] This is the list of companies we all need to boycott ― otherwise known as #SOPA supporters http://goo.gl/5gCBC | Dec 22 22:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Here is what the US government appears to be alledging is espionage solicitation in Manning case. Absurd, http://t.co/CYo3Dh2U | Dec 22 22:01 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] #GoDaddy, proud supporter of internet #censorship bill #SOPA http://ow.ly/88fWj | Dec 22 22:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Cheezburger’s Ben Huh: If GoDaddy Supports SOPA, We’re Taking Our 1000+ Domains Elsewhere http://ping.fm/ff7kH | Dec 22 22:05 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: As If You Needed Another Reason to Hate F*cking GoDaddy .::. Size~: 82.82 KB | Dec 22 22:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Cheezburger’s Ben Huh: If GoDaddy Supports SOPA, We’re Taking Our 1000+ Domains Elsewhere | TechCrunch .::. Size~: 63.41 KB | Dec 22 22:05 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Entrevista a Kristinn Hrafnsson, portavoz de Wikileaks | Pascual Serrano http://t.co/vcw4YFkc | Dec 22 22:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Cheezburger CEO threatens to yank 1,000 domains from #GoDaddy over SOPA support - http://tnw.co/vh7fs4 kudos, mighty #Cheezburger #boycott | Dec 22 22:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Oracle's Stock Tanks http://ur1.ca/6w291 and an alternative reading to this writer's analysis could be: they really tic http://ur1.ca/6w298 | Dec 22 22:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Paul Graham: #SOPA Supporting Companies No Longer Allowed At YC Demo Day - http://tcrn.ch/uSl449 kudos, Mr Graham #boycott | Dec 22 22:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Hurt Locker BitTorrent Lawsuit Dies, But Not Without Controversy - http://bit.ly/v4HYGq "250K sued for alleged BitTorrent downloads" madness | Dec 22 22:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Ellsberg: US wants deal for Manning to implicate Assange | M&C http://t.co/07KLZ7WV | Dec 22 22:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !Google paying !Mozilla $300 million per year for search deal | ZDNet http://zd.net/sF5e6e | Dec 22 22:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @ioerror @oziesimmons Xerox is on a list of pro-#SOPA corporations. Let the irony of that one sink in for a bit. #copythis >>quite | Dec 22 22:28 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Dec 22 22:28 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Unencrypted Data Weakens !Google Wallet (For Now) Robert Vamosi http://goo.gl/wKcBC | Dec 22 22:28 | |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Silner (silner)'s status on Thursday, 22-Dec-11 22:17:22 UTC - silner .::. Size~: 11.33 KB | Dec 22 22:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Paul Graham: SOPA Supporting Companies No Longer Allowed At YC Demo Day | TechCrunch .::. Size~: 66.31 KB | Dec 22 22:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Hurt Locker BitTorrent Lawsuit Dies, But Not Without Controversy | TorrentFreak .::. Size~: 30.21 KB | Dec 22 22:28 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Google paying Mozilla $300 million per year for search deal | ZDNet .::. Size~: 114.88 KB | Dec 22 22:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Unencrypted Data Weakens Google Wallet (For Now) | SecurityWeek.Com .::. Size~: 39.83 KB | Dec 22 22:28 |
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| *ChanServ gives channel operator status to _Goblin | Dec 22 22:31 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: The landlord and I were laughing about Dawn the Back Shaver just a bit ago | Dec 22 22:31 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Dec 22 22:31 |
| DaemonFC | his son was in the room and said "I just told her to fucking leave me alone or else I was gonna kill her" | Dec 22 22:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Government severely restricts media access to Manning's hearing http://t.co/Qqk4nT0C by @RaineyReitman at @TheNation | Dec 22 22:31 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Dec 22 22:31 |
| DaemonFC | whatever works I guess | Dec 22 22:31 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=radeon_r300g_grinch&num=1 | Dec 22 22:33 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: [Phoronix] The Grinch That Stole The Radeon Gallium3D Performance? (R300g) .::. Size~: 18.19 KB | Dec 22 22:33 |
| DaemonFC | Phoronix is up to more bullshit | Dec 22 22:33 |
| DaemonFC | 7.12-dev is not only the same as 7.11 or faster (usually) in all the cases I've compared | Dec 22 22:33 |
| DaemonFC | it has several new OpenGL extensions and a more compliant GLSL implementation | Dec 22 22:34 |
| DaemonFC | he didn't bother testing all radeons either, only the ones covered by r300g | Dec 22 22:35 |
| DaemonFC | which doesn't include any RadeonHDs | Dec 22 22:35 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] A big thank you to everyone who helped with the Bradley Manning pre-trial and accurate reporting. https://t.co/xWcS5ckQ | Dec 22 22:41 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Dec 22 22:41 |
| schestowitz | cool. identica is back | Dec 22 22:49 |
| schestowitz | i can post some news soon | Dec 22 22:50 |
| schestowitz | I will also make some new posts soon | Dec 22 22:50 |
| _Goblin | well my o2 isn't off yet.... I assumed that it had been turned off ready for the switch over on 30th.....turns out it was just unreliable o2 again and my net was down. | Dec 22 22:53 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Best. Spam. Evah. - http://bit.ly/sht7ua who says geeks are unlucky in love? (v @BiellaColeman) #linux | Dec 22 23:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Guide to moving domains from GoDaddy to NameCheap. http://2tu.us/3mxw | Dec 22 23:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Better organic semiconductors may lead to flexible electronics, cheaper solar panels from KurzweilAI » Essays http://ow.ly/87B6q | Dec 22 23:11 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: rants.org » Blog Archive » Best. Spam. Evah. .::. Size~: 22.65 KB | Dec 22 23:11 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Better organic semiconductors may lead to flexible electronics, cheaper solar panels | KurzweilAI .::. Size~: 21.24 KB | Dec 22 23:11 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Check out the @kfasimpaur article "Sharing is good!" - http://goo.gl/GIkpr #CC | Dec 22 23:13 | |
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| schestowitz | _Goblin: hey | Dec 22 23:15 |
| schestowitz | meery cmas | Dec 22 23:15 |
| schestowitz | merry xmas even | Dec 22 23:15 |
| schestowitz | I had too much wine | Dec 22 23:15 |
| _Goblin | :) | Dec 22 23:15 |
| _Goblin | merry xmas mate...... | Dec 22 23:16 |
| schestowitz | Was out at dinner with the gf | Dec 22 23:16 |
| _Goblin | "L"? | Dec 22 23:16 |
| schestowitz | L? | Dec 22 23:16 |
| schestowitz | Im golt a good email | Dec 22 23:16 |
| schestowitz | From Red Hat's CEO | Dec 22 23:16 |
| schestowitz | Published an interview just now | Dec 22 23:16 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2011/12/22/jim-whitehurst-q-and-a/ | Dec 22 23:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Techrights Interview With Jim Whitehurst, Red Hat’s President and CEO | Techrights .::. Size~: 83.21 KB | Dec 22 23:16 |
| schestowitz | Links 22/12/2011: 700,000 Android/Linux Activations Per Day http://techrights.org/2011/12/22/android-activations/ #techrights | Dec 22 23:17 |
| schestowitz | Tofay's links | Dec 22 23:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Links 22/12/2011: 700,000 Android/Linux Activations Per Day | Techrights .::. Size~: 120.13 KB | Dec 22 23:17 |
| schestowitz | Right now I bond with a neighbour | Dec 22 23:17 |
| MinceR | merry solstice | Dec 22 23:21 |
| schestowitz | you too, my pagan comrade | Dec 22 23:21 |
| MinceR | also, happy FSM holiday :) | Dec 22 23:23 |
| MinceR | and merry xistlessnessmas | Dec 22 23:25 |
| schestowitz | FMS? | Dec 22 23:26 |
| schestowitz | Free software magacine? | Dec 22 23:26 |
| schestowitz | Or something kinky? | Dec 22 23:26 |
| MinceR | Flying Spaghetti Monster | Dec 22 23:26 |
| schestowitz | which one? | Dec 22 23:26 |
| MinceR | there are multiple ones now? | Dec 22 23:26 |
| *Diablo-D3 (~diablo@pool-70-16-100-121.port.east.myfairpoint.net) has joined #techrights | Dec 22 23:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] #Secular Coalition for America released its 2012 Presidential Candidate Scorecard http://ur1.ca/6w49o #humanist #atheist | Dec 22 23:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Techrights Interview With Jim Whitehurst, Red Hat’s President and CEO http://ur1.ca/6w4cb #redhat | Dec 22 23:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #identica is back and located on better servers./DC for a change, so news will resume soon and I have good posts scheduled for tomorrow. | Dec 22 23:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] yes, he didn't seem the warmest of human beings before... | Dec 22 23:30 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: 2012 Presidental Candidate Scorecard | Secular Coalition for America .::. Size~: 26.61 KB | Dec 22 23:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Techrights Interview With Jim Whitehurst, Red Hat’s President and CEO | Techrights .::. Size~: 83.21 KB | Dec 22 23:30 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Paul Graham: SOPA Supporting Companies No Longer Allowed At YC Demo Day http://identi.ca/url/62899968 !eff | Dec 22 23:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] GoDaddy's SOPA Support Sparks Calls for Boycotts and Domain Transfers http://identi.ca/url/62899973 !eff | Dec 22 23:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] GoDaddy supports SOPA, reddit goes on the attack http://identi.ca/url/62884455 !eff | Dec 22 23:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] A Step-by-Step Guide to Transfer Domains Out Of GoDaddy http://identi.ca/url/62899994 !eff | Dec 22 23:33 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Paul Graham: SOPA Supporting Companies No Longer Allowed At YC Demo Day | TechCrunch .::. Size~: 66.8 KB | Dec 22 23:33 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: GoDaddy supports SOPA, I'm transferring 51 domains & suggesting a move your domain day : politics .::. Size~: 635.87 KB | Dec 22 23:33 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: livin' the dream · A Step-by-Step Guide to Transfer Domains Out Of GoDaddy .::. Size~: 72.88 KB | Dec 22 23:33 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Official list of SOPA supporters includes the X-Men, bible publishers & country music http://identi.ca/url/62900009 !eff | Dec 22 23:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] GoDaddy Faces boycott over SOPA support http://identi.ca/url/62900029 !eff | Dec 22 23:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Here Is Godaddy’s Statement In Support Of The Stop Online Privacy Act House Hearing Tomorrow http://identi.ca/url/62873297 !eff | Dec 22 23:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] MythBuster Adam Savage: SOPA Could Destroy the Internet as We Know It http://identi.ca/url/62900038 !eff | Dec 22 23:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Map of Congressional Support/Opposition to SOPA http://identi.ca/url/62900052 !eff | Dec 22 23:35 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Official list of SOPA supporters includes the X-Men, bible publishers & country music | VentureBeat .::. Size~: 67.59 KB | Dec 22 23:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: GoDaddy Faces boycott over SOPA support .::. Size~: 32.91 KB | Dec 22 23:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Here Is Godaddy’s Statement In Support Of The Stop Online Privacy Act House Hearing Tomorrow | The Domains .::. Size~: 130.37 KB | Dec 22 23:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: MythBuster Adam Savage: SOPA Could Destroy the Internet as We Know It - Popular Mechanics .::. Size~: 67.4 KB | Dec 22 23:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Congressional Support/Opposition of SOPA .::. Size~: 5.2 KB | Dec 22 23:35 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Cheezburger’s Ben Huh: If GoDaddy Supports SOPA, We’re Taking Our 1000+ Domains Elsewhere http://identi.ca/url/62900066 !eff | Dec 22 23:36 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Cheezburger’s Ben Huh: If GoDaddy Supports SOPA, We’re Taking Our 1000+ Domains Elsewhere | TechCrunch .::. Size~: 63.21 KB | Dec 22 23:36 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Cinnamon: GNOME Shell Fork With A GNOME2-Like Layout http://goo.gl/if3I9 #gnome #gnu #linux | Dec 22 23:40 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Cinnamon: GNOME Shell Fork With A GNOME2-Like Layout ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog .::. Size~: 69.57 KB | Dec 22 23:40 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] great, every bit helps | Dec 22 23:41 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: denominations | Dec 22 23:44 |
| schestowitz | Competition is good for distinguishing places of FSM worship | Dec 22 23:44 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Kororaa Linux 16 - A Fedora++ Distribution http://goo.gl/G4ZJj #fedora | Dec 22 23:45 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Kororaa Linux 16 - A Fedora++ Distribution | ZDNet UK .::. Size~: 61.18 KB | Dec 22 23:45 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] .@Edri_org reveals US lobbying efforts against EU's Data Protection Regulation https://eff.org/r.2M6 #privacy | Dec 22 23:48 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Data Protection Regulation and the Politics of Interoperability | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 38.73 KB | Dec 22 23:48 |
| MinceR | they have denominations already? | Dec 22 23:49 |
| MinceR | apparently they do | Dec 22 23:49 |
| MinceR | http://baileybear.hubpages.com/hub/Flying-Spaghetti-Monster-is-Gluten-Free | Dec 22 23:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Flying Spaghetti Monster is Gluten-Free! .::. Size~: 64.23 KB | Dec 22 23:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Dear !eff, why am I the only one who ever posts important news? | Dec 22 23:53 | |
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