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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @zotz indeed, my very peeve with the free culture adaptations of 4 sw freedoms is the by-fiat nature of the adaptation | Jan 04 00:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] If you actually listened to what anyone else actually said, you would know. Blocked. | Jan 04 00:01 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @zotz but that carries assumptions on what it means to restrict, when it comes to overlapping claims | Jan 04 00:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] @rysiek oh right, that's just using #TOR for me. lulz anyway. | Jan 04 00:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @samatjain My Identica backup tool uses the AtomPub API: http://identi.ca/url/61586608 | Jan 04 00:09 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[dyfet/@dyfet] #fsf fund raising drive http://ur1.ca/77nvf helping the fsf is not just helping others, but helping yourself also! | Jan 04 00:11 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[xface/@xface] RT @ piratepartyca: COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT IN CANADIAN PARLIAMENT Ottawa, ON – Jan 2nd, 2012 – The Canadian Pirate Part http://ur1.ca/77o3e | Jan 04 00:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[xface/@xface] RT @ piratepartyca: RT @torrentfreak: Canadadian Parliament is Full of BitTorrent Pirates http://ur1.ca/77o3g Let the MPs k http://ur1. ... | Jan 04 00:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[xface/@xface] RT @ piratepartyca: Just because someone downloaded something from the HoC IP doesn't mean we can determine the identity of http://ur1. ... | Jan 04 00:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[xface/@xface] RT @ piratepartyca: Copyright infringement out of the Canadian House of Commons #pirate #cdnpoli #cdntech #torrent #p2 #file http://ur1. ... | Jan 04 00:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[xface/@xface] RT @ piratepartyca: RT @guitardrone: It only costs $10 to become a member of @piratepartyca, matey. | Jan 04 00:19 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] no, a restriction is something I may want to do that the law says I can't do. those are to be assumed unethical unless proven ethical. | Jan 04 00:23 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @zotz but see, this goes both ways! law forbids the "right to `protect' works from changes forever"; should we assume it's unethical? | Jan 04 00:29 | |
| XFaCE | Why is it that the political system in the US seems more like a key component of a contrived movie plot? | Jan 04 00:32 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] posting from my Qt test app :P | Jan 04 00:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Dreamlinux 5.0 Screenshot Tour http://ur1.ca/77oz9 #debian | Jan 04 00:51 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] huh? I can protect my works forever and the law does not forbid this. I can burn something I have written before ever letting anyone see it. | Jan 04 00:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] The Four Freedoms (updated) http://ur1.ca/77ml2 #creativecommons !cc !freemusic | Jan 04 01:01 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] mistake is that you think freedom needs a philosophical foundation. the restrictions you would place on a persons actions need one. | Jan 04 01:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @zotz sorry if I wasn't clear, I was hintting at copyrighted works going into public domain | Jan 04 01:06 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1128924 | Jan 04 01:07 |
| schestowitz | " | Jan 04 01:07 |
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| schestowitz | I was in a society at university that attempted to promote open-source software to students. | Jan 04 01:07 |
| schestowitz | It was called the Free Software Society, which made sense to the members, but caused confusion to other people. | Jan 04 01:07 |
| schestowitz | It seems day to day, people think more about their finances than their liberty. | Jan 04 01:07 |
| schestowitz | " | Jan 04 01:08 |
| schestowitz | "I get paid to help users who are caught out by yet another pointless change in Microsoft software, so I know the premise upon which this is based is false." https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1128924 | Jan 04 01:08 |
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| schestowitz | I saw it for myself today (the girl who lives with me). That rubbish Office would refuse to save files. It's an utter pile of ribbons. | Jan 04 01:09 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @zotz a slave owner may think slavery abolition restricts his freedom, but he didn't have that freedom in the first place | Jan 04 01:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @zotz some perceive copyleft as restrictive of their freedom to abuse others; copyright abolition as an attack on their freedom | Jan 04 01:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @zotz it's the philosophical foundation I sustain as needed that sets apart such false claims for freedom from legitimate ones | Jan 04 01:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] everything goes there on publication w/o the restrictions copyright places on the actions of all. those restrictions need to be justified. | Jan 04 01:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @jaimealsilva: #Microsoft will support #Linux on #Azure cloud because that’s what its customers want http://ur1.ca/77oy0 | Jan 04 01:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @zotz still (re)reading, but 1 nit I didn't point out: it's not fair to disregard the possibility that *more* freedoms apply to culture/art | Jan 04 01:18 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] we will never agree so long as you think freedom needs justification in the first instance. all the best. | Jan 04 01:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @zotz it's not so much justification as a balance when there's a clash between conflicting claims for freedom | Jan 04 01:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] just highlighted "essential freedoms" in the test to bring that section to your attention. | Jan 04 01:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] nope, conflicting restrictions perhaps. | Jan 04 01:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @zotz it's when we favor one default over another that we show our biases; I'm looking for a rationale that doesn't depend on bias | Jan 04 01:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] I am happy to be biased towards freedom and require wanted restrictions on freedom to be justified. | Jan 04 01:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @zotz I understand and sympathize with your claim for defaults, but it's when there's a clash that things get tricky | Jan 04 01:26 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @zotz precisely because one's freedom ends where the neighbor's freedom starts; that's far less than "whatever we may want to do" | Jan 04 01:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @zotz when both A and B claim "freedom X", but only one can X at a time, does your bias towards freedom favor A or B? | Jan 04 01:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @zotz the easy cases are, well, easy; it's the hard ones that are hard :-) | Jan 04 01:34 | |
| scientes | "You can't have my rights, I'm still using them!" | Jan 04 01:35 |
| scientes | "<XFaCE> Why is it that the political system in the US seems more like a key component of a contrived movie plot?"-->because most of the US public have long ago realized that those whole thing is impossibly-unfixably corrupt and unworkable | Jan 04 01:35 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Goldman's Latest Boiler-Room Stock http://ur1.ca/77q2a | Jan 04 01:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @zotz let X be eat the last cookie for a concrete example | Jan 04 01:36 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Goldman's Latest Boiler-Room Stock: America | Matt Taibbi | Rolling Stone .::. Size~: 58.56 KB | Jan 04 01:36 |
| scientes | US has some of the lowest turnouts, and the winner-takes-all district voting system is archaic and a sad excuse at democracy in comparison to the proportional representative systems in most of western europe | Jan 04 01:36 |
| scientes | most issues tend to have something to do with reproduction (abortion, gay marriage, sex scandels), and are talked about in way similar to what sports casters/promoters do | Jan 04 01:38 |
| XFaCE | yes | Jan 04 01:39 |
| XFaCE | I like how for example, there is analysis of the evangelical Christian vote divided into two groups, one of which "born again" | Jan 04 01:40 |
| XFaCE | in Canada, to be blunt, no one would give a shit about this analysis. | Jan 04 01:40 |
| XFaCE | I can't recall any sort of measure like that | Jan 04 01:40 |
| scientes | Canada also has a horrible excuse for representative democracy however | Jan 04 01:41 |
| XFaCE | I know we do analysis ethnic voteers | Jan 04 01:41 |
| XFaCE | scientes: Sure, but America is just as bad if not worse | Jan 04 01:41 |
| scientes | which IMHO is why Steven Harper could possibly exist | Jan 04 01:41 |
| scientes | that guy is horrible | Jan 04 01:41 |
| XFaCE | scientes: Absolute, he got a majority with less than 40% of the total populations supporting him | Jan 04 01:41 |
| scientes | (not that I fallow everything......) | Jan 04 01:41 |
| scientes | and that recall election...... | Jan 04 01:42 |
| XFaCE | the voter turnout is pathetic | Jan 04 01:42 |
| XFaCE | scientes: No, your impression is spot on | Jan 04 01:42 |
| scientes | someone in here was talking about the australian _mandatory_ voting | Jan 04 01:42 |
| XFaCE | scientes: We should try representative voting firm | Jan 04 01:42 |
| XFaCE | st | Jan 04 01:42 |
| XFaCE | first | Jan 04 01:42 |
| XFaCE | voting system reform | Jan 04 01:42 |
| XFaCE | proportional representation | Jan 04 01:43 |
| scientes | e.g. in spain it worked---the government supported George Bush, and in the next election--they were gone | Jan 04 01:43 |
| scientes | Canada is one of those places where it actually matters---like Russia the government is solvent IIRC | Jan 04 01:43 |
| XFaCE | BTW, a recent count showed 43% for Ron Paul, and less than 20% for everyone else | Jan 04 01:44 |
| XFaCE | This is going to be entertaining | Jan 04 01:44 |
| scientes | really, democracy now this morning said nothing about him | Jan 04 01:44 |
| XFaCE | Not that I'm a Ron Paul supporter | Jan 04 01:44 |
| scientes | he has sane foreign policy and like Dennis Kucinich's Need Act, wants to move against a debt-based, expodential-based financial system | Jan 04 01:45 |
| XFaCE | It's just with all the voter regulation changes the Repubs are pushing discriminating against certain segements of the population | Jan 04 01:45 |
| XFaCE | It would be hilarious if all of these efforts end up to be for Ron Paul as president | Jan 04 01:45 |
| scientes | he is also a real conservative, which there is quite a history of in the US (not sure if that matters) | Jan 04 01:46 |
| XFaCE | I predict the Repub party would implode under the weight of its own ludicrousness | Jan 04 01:46 |
| scientes | Democrats are the pushers of SOPA for example | Jan 04 01:46 |
| XFaCE | Unforunately leaving a pure resin of corporatism | Jan 04 01:46 |
| XFaCE | in the party | Jan 04 01:46 |
| XFaCE | scientes: The two-party system has failed | Jan 04 01:46 |
| scientes | XFaCE, it never worked | Jan 04 01:47 |
| XFaCE | scientes: Which is why I sure as hell don't want the ndp and the liberal party to merge here | Jan 04 01:47 |
| scientes | the only times progress ever happened is when the federal government was on the verge of civil war or rebellion | Jan 04 01:47 |
| XFaCE | The Canadian political system had a good layout once | Jan 04 01:47 |
| scientes | the US was based, from it's very beginning, as a tax squabble of the rich | Jan 04 01:48 |
| XFaCE | Where you had centre-right and centre-left parties, and further left and further right fringe parties | Jan 04 01:48 |
| XFaCE | Centrism is good | Jan 04 01:48 |
| scientes | I just watched a video and learned Sweden has a carbon tax | Jan 04 01:48 |
| scientes | from David Suzuki | Jan 04 01:48 |
| XFaCE | The Corporatist Conservatives are anything but centrist | Jan 04 01:48 |
| XFaCE | They aren't even the reform | Jan 04 01:48 |
| *scientes admires David Suzuki | Jan 04 01:48 | |
| XFaCE | scientes: David Suzuki is intelligent and kind | Jan 04 01:49 |
| XFaCE | A very cool guy | Jan 04 01:49 |
| scientes | and very much a scientist | Jan 04 01:49 |
| XFaCE | scientes: absolutely | Jan 04 01:49 |
| scientes | which is unusual in the political arena | Jan 04 01:49 |
| XFaCE | scientes: He's not really a politician | Jan 04 01:49 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Finally posted a link to last night’s !Diaspora blog post http://ur1.ca/77qgn on the JD pod. #socnets #free_software #open_source | Jan 04 01:49 | |
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| XFaCE | scientes: But his activism is effective | Jan 04 01:50 |
| scientes | well, he is better than "Bill nye the science guy"--which is also a very intelligent public persona | Jan 04 01:50 |
| scientes | maybe its a matter of access..... | Jan 04 01:50 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] ...and looked quite alright, not sure something was wrong in my end. I don't know any clients that actually use the StatusNet AtomPub API | Jan 04 01:51 | |
| scientes | David's story of being in the japaneese internment camps was very inspiring---he was basically the only 3rd gen | Jan 04 01:51 |
| Lirodon | I disagree with the statement "MICROSOFT services are horrible and the company recently sent out an ‘update’ for its DRM boxes (Xbox) just to modify the EULA to make joining class action impossible," | Jan 04 01:51 |
| Lirodon | well, the 2nd half. | Jan 04 01:51 |
| scientes | Lirodon, where is this from? | Jan 04 01:53 |
| Lirodon | http://techrights.org/2012/01/01/microsoft-service-failures/ | Jan 04 01:53 |
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| scientes | Microsoft isn't the only company being evry agressive with "updates"--Apple with iTunes, and Sony removing OtherOS on PS3 | Jan 04 01:54 |
| Lirodon | i.e. Access to YouTube, a free website for watching videos, FOR GOLD SUBSCRIBERS ONLY | Jan 04 01:54 |
| *schestowitz likes David Suzuki | Jan 04 01:54 | |
| scientes | another reason against Trecherous Computing | Jan 04 01:54 |
| Lirodon | Access to a whole bunch of new video services with Kinect integration, FOR GOLD SUBSCRIBERS ONLY | Jan 04 01:54 |
| Lirodon | A slightly different home screen | Jan 04 01:55 |
| scientes | www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-w7UXCAUJE | Jan 04 01:55 |
| scientes | (2 Kinect Camera streams (at 90 degrees from each other) running simultaneously) | Jan 04 01:55 |
| scientes | http://idav.ucdavis.edu/~okreylos/ResDev/Kinect/ | Jan 04 01:55 |
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| scientes | WTF! youtube is doing a "do you want to leave youtube?" notice | Jan 04 01:56 |
| schestowitz | youtube watches what you watch and prpfiles it | Jan 04 02:00 |
| schestowitz | per person, not per set like sat-TV | Jan 04 02:00 |
| schestowitz | gn | Jan 04 02:00 |
| scientes | http://www.ksl.com/?nid=960&sid=18540421&autostart=y | Jan 04 02:01 |
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| scientes | gn schestowitz | Jan 04 02:01 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] please, this is a bogus example. you need a better one. | Jan 04 02:03 | |
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| scientes | I've been wondering----if Microsoft was forced to remove IE, Messenger, and WMP is various version---what about Google Calender, Docs, etc in Android---and there other evil spyware services | Jan 04 02:04 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] It's great to see so many #NewHere people on #Diaspora. Cheers, nice to have you here! | Jan 04 02:06 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] On personal #Drones, #Quadcopters and why they will get banned as "terrorist devices" soon, most probably. And the hypo http://ur1.ca/77qzr | Jan 04 02:09 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @zotz what's bogus about it? it's a perfectly simple (minimal, even) case of conflicting claims to freedom | Jan 04 02:13 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] thanks. this has been a long back and forth but hopefully something worthwhile will come out of it in the end. | Jan 04 02:43 | |
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| cubezzz | of course microsoft tells it's customers "it's time to move on from XP" | Jan 04 02:44 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] first, cast it into an example according to the simple test template I suggest. second, whose cookie is it? third, what law should be passed | Jan 04 02:44 | |
| cubezzz | time to start the ol' upgrade treadmill again | Jan 04 02:45 |
| cubezzz | so they say | Jan 04 02:46 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] !linuxlibre 3.1.7-libre, 3.0.15-libre, and 2.6.32.52-libre2 sources are now available | Jan 04 02:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Tell @pidginIM and @adium: ask users whether they want to log chats, don't just turn it on https://eff.org/r.5Mw | Jan 04 02:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks news update http://t.co/QxHt1FFu | Jan 04 02:51 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @zotz sorry, this one doesn't reduce to a trivial application of the golden rule. it's C's cookie, who lets them both eat it. law, why? | Jan 04 03:01 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @lnxwalt280: We have to recognize that copyrights are *monopolies* and monopolies are always bad | Jan 04 03:18 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] depends on the roll, @psquid :) | Jan 04 03:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] Any information regarding the criteria used to justify censoring/locking my account would be appreciated. Email the info to jezra@jezra.net | Jan 04 03:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @jezra are you sure you were censored/blocked (¬ just technical difficulties or maybe a newbie mod-helper with more power than training?) | Jan 04 04:19 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @x11r5 I just realized somebody is interested in the south of the identiverse | Jan 04 05:13 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] http://ur1.ca/77trp !heehaw | Jan 04 05:34 | |
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| sebsebseb | Anyone about? | Jan 04 05:37 |
| sebsebseb | http://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/microsoft-reluctantly-bows-to-linux-users/10074 | Jan 04 05:38 |
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| cubezzz | I'm around | Jan 04 05:41 |
| sebsebseb | cubezzz: what you think of that? ^ | Jan 04 05:56 |
| cubefc1 | umm, well it's fine I guess | Jan 04 05:56 |
| cubefc1 | I haven't really thought about it much | Jan 04 05:56 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @speeddefrost: RT @x11r5 I just realized somebody is interested in the south of the !identiverse | Jan 04 06:28 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] :) | Jan 04 06:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] @nj3ma @fredmanglis Fancy IRC? | Jan 04 07:30 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] How #Apple won the West .... and lost the World > http://nd.gd/06o /cc @nj3ma @kelzOKO @fredmanglis @RamanusAsango @saisi_ !android !javaME | Jan 04 07:31 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @fredmanglis: #Quantum #levitation http://nd.gd/06n interesting stuff! | Jan 04 07:36 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @sclopit: I-CHALLENGE 2012 : Linked Data Cup http://t.co/5HWjk1t1 http://p.ost.im/p/e5ubEK | Jan 04 07:38 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[xface/@xface] RT @ mgeist: RT @UofOtechlaw: Dr Tal Zarsky speaking on "Governmental Data Mining" Fri Jan 6th 11:30am at uOttawa FTX351 http://t.co/2FU ... | Jan 04 07:45 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[xface/@xface] RT @ mgeist: New England Journal of Medicine publishes on copyright, open access & disputes over cognitive screening test http://t.co/u9 ... | Jan 04 07:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[xface/@xface] RT @ mgeist: .@torrentfreak: Busted: Canadian Parliament Hosts BitTorrent Pirates http://t.co/kDIOxbTp | Jan 04 07:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[xface/@xface] RT @ mgeist: Crystal Ball Gazing at Year Ahead in Tech Law: my 2012 month-by-month preview of copyright, telco & privacy http://t.co/epO ... | Jan 04 07:45 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[xface/@xface] RT @ mgeist: .@article19org Statement: European Parliament: Reject Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement (#ACTA) http://t.co/iCXDZdJI | Jan 04 07:45 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] On the surface, ministerial pay cuts look fairly good. Wondering if the devil is in the fineprint? #fb | Jan 04 07:53 | |
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| sebsebseb | scientes: http://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/microsoft-reluctantly-bows-to-linux-users/10074 | Jan 04 07:56 |
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| scientes | sebsebseb, I saw that | Jan 04 07:56 |
| sebsebseb | scientes: Did you see that Canonical wil be at CES? | Jan 04 07:57 |
| scientes | probably with ARM netbooks and such | Jan 04 07:57 |
| scientes | they never did manage to port android to GNU/Linux | Jan 04 07:57 |
| scientes | probably kernel issues...... | Jan 04 07:58 |
| sebsebseb | http://blog.canonical.com/2012/01/03/canonical-at-ces-las-vegas-10th-13th-january/ | Jan 04 07:58 |
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| scientes | hmm cool | Jan 04 07:59 |
| sebsebseb | BBC Click will be at Consumer Electronics Show as well, will they mention Canonical being there though hmm, I wonder | Jan 04 07:59 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @parlementum RD @exador23 #BumperSticker: Decriminalize Fair Use. | Jan 04 08:11 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Busted: Canadian Parliament Hosts BitTorrent #Pirates http://www.ur1.ca/7805o !Canada !CDNpoli !copyright !C11 /via @xface/@mgeist | Jan 04 08:15 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] !Tzag Identizens. | Jan 04 08:16 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @x11r5 @patrickniedzielski Pretty rockin', really. I'll have to take the top five suggestions and process them every month | Jan 04 08:18 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] good morning @satipera | Jan 04 08:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] good morning @marjoleink | Jan 04 08:26 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Google acquires 200-plus more IBM patents. http://ur1.ca/78195 #swpats | Jan 04 09:03 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] The Paypal Way. When in dispute, destroy the evidence. Unbelievable. #mustread http://ur1.ca/77s0x | Jan 04 09:06 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] RT @jwildeboer The Paypal Way. When in dispute, destroy the evidence. Unbelievable. #mustread http://ur1.ca/781o7 | Jan 04 09:20 | |
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| DaemonFC | That guy from 19 kids and counting endorsed Rick Santorum, I'm not surprised | Jan 04 09:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Misplaced priorities hampering UK government uptake of open source http://goo.gl/WBkb3 #uk #egov | Jan 04 09:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Steam Comes To #Android http://ur1.ca/782ar #steam | Jan 04 09:50 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Announcing Pear OS Linux Debian Edition http://ur1.ca/782dk #pearos | Jan 04 09:53 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Israeli companies can profit from West Bank resources, court rules. http://ur1.ca/782h6 !Palestine | Jan 04 09:56 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Tablets: an #Android 2011 Retrospective http://ur1.ca/782hi #linux | Jan 04 09:58 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Environment Agency deploys open source knowledge management http://goo.gl/TfJWJ #egov | Jan 04 10:01 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] LibreOffice: Is the Open Source Software Suite Here to Stay? http://goo.gl/Jx8fc #LibreOffice #odf | Jan 04 10:03 | |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/apr/12/china-australia-mining-iron-coal | Jan 04 10:04 |
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| DaemonFC | Australia is letting China move in and take their resources for cheap | Jan 04 10:04 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Extremadura abandons its custom Linux distribution http://goo.gl/LKgSZ can use #debian instead | Jan 04 10:05 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD @glynmoody #nginx overtakes #Microsoft IIS according to netcraft's stats for January - bit.ly/zWlGt2 top 2 web servers now #opensource | Jan 04 10:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] @nj3ma @kelzOKO http://nd.gd/06q | Jan 04 10:06 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: New lunch Intel Atom N2600 OEM airbook laptop computer with aluminium case - Detailed info for New lunch Intel Atom N2600 OEM airbook laptop computer with aluminium case,Laptop,New lunch Intel Atom N2600 OEM airbook laptop computer with aluminium case,airbook on Alibaba.com .::. Size~: 72.41 KB | Jan 04 10:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @satipera Israeli companies can profit from West Bank resources, court rules. http://ur1.ca/782h6 !Palestine | Jan 04 10:08 | |
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| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/88072775 | Jan 04 10:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Loqo (loqo)'s status on Wednesday, 04-Jan-12 09:54:57 UTC - Identi.ca: Seconded! RT @forteller: Yes! RT @schestowitz: Linux design needs to be out of the hands of developers http://goo.gl/OVIWp !linux | Jan 04 10:21 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] Nice online comic about #distributed #social networks http://ur1.ca/6iqkb !fs !gnu !fsfe #socialswarm #faceboogle | Jan 04 10:26 | |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz: My mom was about to call her boss and tell her she broke her wrist too. I said she wasn't going back to work for 8 more weeks anyway, so her boss probably has no reason to know. | Jan 04 10:28 |
| DaemonFC | You know how managers are | Jan 04 10:28 |
| DaemonFC | you don't need to give them another reason to try to get rid of you | Jan 04 10:28 |
| DaemonFC | workplace policies just depend on whose ass you're up and how far | Jan 04 10:29 |
| schestowitz | Or who thretans one's own job | Jan 04 10:29 |
| schestowitz | bosses like to get rid of potential competition, too | Jan 04 10:30 |
| DaemonFC | yeah | Jan 04 10:30 |
| schestowitz | They select based on obedience a lot. They'll never admit it. | Jan 04 10:30 |
| DaemonFC | right, they want someone that is just qualified to keep coming in and doing their own job | Jan 04 10:31 |
| DaemonFC | with no prospects for advancement | Jan 04 10:31 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: This place, I'm not going to mention the name for obvious reasons | Jan 04 10:33 |
| DaemonFC | spent in excess of $100,000 to put in security cameras all over the facility so the administrator can watch from her home on her days off | Jan 04 10:34 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jan 04 10:34 |
| DaemonFC | and she's caught a few people doing things like going five minutes over on their breaks | Jan 04 10:34 |
| DaemonFC | that ought to pay for itself in about 1,000 years :P | Jan 04 10:34 |
| DaemonFC | after this happens (it's a nursing home), they said they were overbudget for the year and the state law now says that there has to be a family meeting room for the residents and their family members on every unit | Jan 04 10:35 |
| DaemonFC | so they were trying to take up collections from the employees to buy the furniture | Jan 04 10:35 |
| DaemonFC | when they didn't get enough, they started snagging all the furniture and tables out of the employee break rooms | Jan 04 10:36 |
| DaemonFC | and now it's just some vending machines and folding chairs in there | Jan 04 10:36 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] #2012: Ron Paul second in Iowa Caucus, Romney and Santorum tied for first http://identi.ca/url/63792877 | Jan 04 10:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Aptosid 2011-03 comes with Linux 3.1 kernel http://is.gd/jXTlz2 #Debian | Jan 04 10:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "company prepares to enter the fray with a £119 Android tablet." http://ur1.ca/7838m #linux | Jan 04 10:36 | |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Then the new year (2011) came in and they had the budget to do some more upgrades | Jan 04 10:37 |
| DaemonFC | so they decided to put down nice new carpeting | Jan 04 10:38 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Low-Cost School Computing http://ur1.ca/7839a #linux | Jan 04 10:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Asus To Unlock #linux device http://ur1.ca/783ar | Jan 04 10:38 | |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC: reading between the lines, gonad's ex-wife has problems at work | Jan 04 10:38 |
| DaemonFC | the company they have doing janitorial services there has the owner on the board of the nursing home | Jan 04 10:38 |
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| DaemonFC | so they get to charge double what they're worth and nobody is going to get bids to do it cheaper | Jan 04 10:39 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/88074360 | Jan 04 10:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Wednesday, 04-Jan-12 10:36:03 UTC - Identi.ca: MAME Runs In Google Chrome, Plays All Your Favorite Arcade Games http://goo.gl/8xHYo #google #chrome #mame | Jan 04 10:39 |
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| DaemonFC | they come in and use those scrubbers meant for bare floor on the brand new carpeting they put in | Jan 04 10:39 |
| DaemonFC | and they've done it so many times now that the new carpet looks like it's 10 years old | Jan 04 10:39 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jan 04 10:39 |
| DaemonFC | for a while, they were paying some outside company to put new doors up one at a time in a new set of apartments they had just put in | Jan 04 10:40 |
| DaemonFC | not all at once, just as people moved in | Jan 04 10:40 |
| DaemonFC | the company was charging them about $2,000 a piece for a door that costs about $100 at Lowes and takes about a half hour of labor to install | Jan 04 10:41 |
| DaemonFC | nobody got bids on that either | Jan 04 10:41 |
| DaemonFC | these places waste all kinds of money just because they can | Jan 04 10:42 |
| DaemonFC | then they charge people $5,000+ a month to be in the nursing home | Jan 04 10:43 |
| schestowitz | http://www.muktware.com/news/3167/apple-sued-users-america | Jan 04 10:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Apple Sued By Users In America | Muktware .::. Size~: 34.32 KB | Jan 04 10:44 |
| schestowitz | Apple has just gotten what it deserves again | Jan 04 10:44 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Mozilla Public License, version 2.0 http://ur1.ca/783e4 #mozilla #firefox | Jan 04 10:45 | |
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| Diablo-D3 | schestowitz: well dont worry | Jan 04 10:45 |
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| Diablo-D3 | if you claim apple is dying, apple supporters will come out to attack you | Jan 04 10:45 |
| brendyn | they are dying? | Jan 04 10:45 |
| Diablo-D3 | brendyn: well | Jan 04 10:45 |
| Diablo-D3 | yesterday | Jan 04 10:45 |
| Diablo-D3 | or maybe the day before, I forget | Jan 04 10:46 |
| Diablo-D3 | I said apple is dying wrt ipad sales | Jan 04 10:46 |
| Diablo-D3 | base model of ipad2 is like $600 | Jan 04 10:46 |
| Diablo-D3 | I can buy the same or better from asus's two 10" lines (transformer and the other one without the keyboard0, toshiba thrive, and samsung galaxy tab... | Jan 04 10:46 |
| Diablo-D3 | they both have 1ghz or greater dual core A8/A9, 512mb or greater memory, 8gb or greater flash (depending on model), and an SD slot, and a 10" IPS screen, and dual cams, and good battery life, etc etc etc | Jan 04 10:47 |
| Diablo-D3 | oh, and either high end powervr sgx, or in the case of tegra, its a tegra 2 | Jan 04 10:48 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] BASIC Is Dead. Bury It. http://ur1.ca/783gn #basic | Jan 04 10:48 | |
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| Diablo-D3 | so you know, all equivilent hardware | Jan 04 10:48 |
| Diablo-D3 | but the cheapest base model out of all of those? $375 | Jan 04 10:48 |
| Diablo-D3 | Q4 (ie, christmas season), something like ten times more android 8.9" or larger tablets were sold than ipad 2s. | Jan 04 10:49 |
| Diablo-D3 | so, honestly, I cant say apple is surviving at all | Jan 04 10:49 |
| Diablo-D3 | they're not dead, but they're clearly floundering | Jan 04 10:49 |
| brendyn | surely they could drop it to 50 cents and still profit | Jan 04 10:50 |
| Diablo-D3 | Im not saying that | Jan 04 10:51 |
| Diablo-D3 | but they could drop it to compete | Jan 04 10:51 |
| Diablo-D3 | their base model dropped to $450 or lower could compete | Jan 04 10:51 |
| brendyn | i never claimed you were | Jan 04 10:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Dolphin 2.0 - Status Update http://ur1.ca/77liq #kde | Jan 04 10:51 | |
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| brendyn | it wont stop them very quickly | Jan 04 10:52 |
| Diablo-D3 | toshiba thrive seems to be the cheapest out of all the highest end 10" IPS lines, and I can pick those up for $375, and its a really nice tablet | Jan 04 10:52 |
| brendyn | even microsoft havent stopped yet | Jan 04 10:52 |
| Diablo-D3 | so I just dont see the point of getting an ipad2 | Jan 04 10:52 |
| brendyn | staked through the heart | Jan 04 10:52 |
| Diablo-D3 | well | Jan 04 10:52 |
| Diablo-D3 | microsoft still has a lot of legacy revanue | Jan 04 10:52 |
| Diablo-D3 | apple cant rely on that, especially since their big money is the iOS shit, not OSX | Jan 04 10:53 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Is Ubuntu's Bleeding Edge Hurting Linux? http://ur1.ca/781v5 #ubuntu | Jan 04 10:53 | |
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| brendyn | revenue* | Jan 04 10:53 |
| brendyn | they have a grip on music and various arty things | Jan 04 10:54 |
| Diablo-D3 | not really, amazon's music has really been pwning itunes over the past year | Jan 04 10:54 |
| brendyn | as a guitarist i found it sad doing recordings and being pushed into to using protools and all that crap | Jan 04 10:54 |
| brendyn | on windows xp | Jan 04 10:54 |
| Diablo-D3 | oh, you mean as in production | Jan 04 10:54 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] CompaniesI tip Cedar Trail netbooks http://ur1.ca/783l1 #linux | Jan 04 10:55 | |
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| brendyn | yep | Jan 04 10:55 |
| Diablo-D3 | yeah, I gotta admit, if I was doing pro audio and desktop publishing, I'd probably own a loaded mac pro | Jan 04 10:55 |
| Diablo-D3 | but the thing is, thats all I'd use it for | Jan 04 10:55 |
| Diablo-D3 | I wouldnt game or do daily shit on it | Jan 04 10:55 |
| Diablo-D3 | so it really diminishes the value of owning one | Jan 04 10:56 |
| brendyn | id try do it with free software stuff but setting up is a nightmare | Jan 04 10:56 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Good report from Committee to Review Ministerial Salaries - http://ur1.ca/783md #fb | Jan 04 10:56 | |
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| Diablo-D3 | Ive used linux as my primary desktop OS for over a decade | Jan 04 10:56 |
| Diablo-D3 | and btw, pro audio is a pita. | Jan 04 10:56 |
| Diablo-D3 | on any OS, not just linux | Jan 04 10:57 |
| Diablo-D3 | at least on linux I have jack and alsa | Jan 04 10:57 |
| Diablo-D3 | alsa can be tuned correctly for pro audio cards so its low latency and low cpu usag | Jan 04 10:57 |
| brendyn | pita? | Jan 04 10:57 |
| Diablo-D3 | pain in the ass | Jan 04 10:57 |
| Diablo-D3 | OSX's audio framework IS really good... but you're stuck with OSX only apps | Jan 04 10:58 |
| Diablo-D3 | about half the pro audio apps and app plugins and whatever seem to be windows only | Jan 04 10:58 |
| Diablo-D3 | and on windows, you're screwed because most cards dont have drivers that support ASIO, and, well, its windows. | Jan 04 10:58 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #GenodeOS Gets An Ambitious 2012 Roadmap http://ur1.ca/783nv #linux | Jan 04 11:00 | |
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| brendyn | lucky for me any recording ill do any time soon will be 1/2/3 track acoustic | Jan 04 11:00 |
| brendyn | guitar | Jan 04 11:00 |
| Diablo-D3 | yeah, as long as you have a cheap external dac and arent listening to yourself through headphones, you're fine | Jan 04 11:00 |
| Diablo-D3 | well not too cheap, it needs to have a native 44.1khz ADC | Jan 04 11:01 |
| brendyn | i can listen with headphones without going through the computer | Jan 04 11:01 |
| Diablo-D3 | yeah | Jan 04 11:01 |
| Diablo-D3 | but some people play against stuff they already recorded | Jan 04 11:01 |
| brendyn | i have an m-audio fast track ulrta | Jan 04 11:01 |
| brendyn | ultra | Jan 04 11:01 |
| Diablo-D3 | ooh | Jan 04 11:01 |
| Diablo-D3 | yeah thats good enough | Jan 04 11:01 |
| brendyn | it just started working with linux/alsa or what ever magic makes it work recently | Jan 04 11:02 |
| Diablo-D3 | it doesnt have firewire though, does it | Jan 04 11:02 |
| brendyn | i have had it for 2 years but it never plugged and played until now | Jan 04 11:02 |
| brendyn | in a quick test i had audio playback with it. yet to test recording | Jan 04 11:02 |
| brendyn | but the sliders appear in alsamixer | Jan 04 11:02 |
| brendyn | USB | Jan 04 11:03 |
| Diablo-D3 | yeah thats kind of sad | Jan 04 11:03 |
| brendyn | i dont really know what makes firewire better | Jan 04 11:03 |
| Diablo-D3 | device DMA | Jan 04 11:03 |
| brendyn | m-audio do have fireware devices | Jan 04 11:04 |
| Diablo-D3 | you can do extremely low latency and working enforced isosynchronous on firewire | Jan 04 11:04 |
| Diablo-D3 | m-audio makes some of the best gear in the world | Jan 04 11:04 |
| brendyn | pitty they dont give much a shit about the software. the windows only driver i had was from 2008 (latest version), proprietary and had no linux version | Jan 04 11:05 |
| brendyn | and glitched a lot | Jan 04 11:05 |
| Diablo-D3 | they wouldnt do linux versions | Jan 04 11:05 |
| Diablo-D3 | linux themselves would | Jan 04 11:05 |
| Diablo-D3 | like, all their envy24-based cards work using the existing envy24 driver | Jan 04 11:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] What should free software do in 2012? | Jan 04 11:06 | |
| Diablo-D3 | as for internal sound cards go, you cant beat envy24 | Jan 04 11:07 |
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| Diablo-D3 | m-audio rev 5.1, 7.1, 1010lt, esi/audiotrak prodigy hd2, prodigy 7.1, juli@, etc etc | Jan 04 11:07 |
| Diablo-D3 | all envy24 cards | Jan 04 11:07 |
| Diablo-D3 | oh, and m-audio audiophile 192 | Jan 04 11:08 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Free software plays in supporting online freedom and Glyn Moody thinks" | Jan 04 11:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Just as bad are the knock-on effects of SOPA." http://goo.gl/axc5n #fsf | Jan 04 11:08 | |
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| brendyn | i bought a 30 dollar express card with firewire ports with the idea of buying a firewire device, but it didnt happen | Jan 04 11:09 |
| Diablo-D3 | doesnt your mobo have firewire? | Jan 04 11:09 |
| Diablo-D3 | a lot do | Jan 04 11:09 |
| brendyn | i think my laptop at the time does have a mini one | Jan 04 11:10 |
| Diablo-D3 | btw, otoh, I said about about direct device DMA and working iso mode? | Jan 04 11:10 |
| Diablo-D3 | USB3 has both of those now | Jan 04 11:10 |
| Diablo-D3 | so I expect firewire will eventually be phased out for USB3 | Jan 04 11:10 |
| brendyn | nice | Jan 04 11:10 |
| Diablo-D3 | yeah, working iso mode is fucking great for hard realtime devices like sound | Jan 04 11:10 |
| brendyn | does the device also need to support usb3 to get the new powers? | Jan 04 11:10 |
| Diablo-D3 | yes | Jan 04 11:11 |
| brendyn | kk | Jan 04 11:11 |
| Diablo-D3 | I havent seen any external sound with usb3 yet | Jan 04 11:11 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Good report from Committee to Review Ministerial Salaries - http://ur1.ca/783md #fb | Jan 04 11:11 | |
| brendyn | maudio dont seem to have made anything new in a while | Jan 04 11:11 |
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| Diablo-D3 | they dont have to | Jan 04 11:11 |
| Diablo-D3 | like, look at the delta 1010 | Jan 04 11:12 |
| Diablo-D3 | pci envy24 host card, so its a normal envy24 card... | Jan 04 11:12 |
| Diablo-D3 | but all the DACs and ADCs are external | Jan 04 11:12 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Obama's War on #Whistleblowers: ur1.ca/783xp /cc @wikileaks @telecomix | Jan 04 11:13 | |
| Diablo-D3 | 8 in, 8 out, spdif in, spdif out, and full sized midi jacks | Jan 04 11:14 |
| Diablo-D3 | so you get the best of both words, a "real" sound card, and pro audio | Jan 04 11:14 |
| Diablo-D3 | the only thing Im really looking for atm is a pci-e envy24 card | Jan 04 11:15 |
| Diablo-D3 | and not a high end one | Jan 04 11:15 |
| Diablo-D3 | I use an esi/audiotrak prodigy hd2, which is stereo only, a 24/192 envy24, and has rca jacks for output | Jan 04 11:17 |
| Diablo-D3 | for non-production listening only, its perfect, especially since you can get them for $80 or less | Jan 04 11:17 |
| Diablo-D3 | its basically identical in usage to the m-audio audiophile 192 | Jan 04 11:18 |
| Diablo-D3 | but neither of those come in pci-e versions | Jan 04 11:18 |
| Diablo-D3 | http://www.audiotrak.net/products/prodigyhd2/ | Jan 04 11:18 |
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| Diablo-D3 | ^ thats what I have | Jan 04 11:18 |
| Diablo-D3 | I wouldn't use it for recording audio, its 96khz in, and doesnt use RCA jacks for that | Jan 04 11:20 |
| Diablo-D3 | (not that 96 is bad mind you, but you want in and out to be the same, and I use 192 habitually to remove artifacts from resampling when Im not using 44.1 native mode; the artifacts are above the frequency threshold of human hearing with a functioning resampler) | Jan 04 11:21 |
| brendyn | i read some complicated stuff about samplerates and higher ones not necessarily being better once. not sure if i can find it again | Jan 04 11:22 |
| Diablo-D3 | (consequently, fuck whoever thought CDs and the realm of computer audio should be 44.1, DVDs/Blurays should be 48/96, and cheap DACs (of which I dont own) are all either 48 only or 48 and up) | Jan 04 11:22 |
| Diablo-D3 | brendyn: well | Jan 04 11:22 |
| Diablo-D3 | I use 192 as a hack | Jan 04 11:22 |
| brendyn | a hack? | Jan 04 11:22 |
| Diablo-D3 | 44.1 -> 48 sucks, 48->44.1 sucks | Jan 04 11:23 |
| Diablo-D3 | so if I use either, its wrong for the other | Jan 04 11:23 |
| brendyn | oh i see | Jan 04 11:23 |
| Diablo-D3 | 96 isnt high enough to eliminate all resampling artifacts | Jan 04 11:23 |
| Diablo-D3 | 192 is | Jan 04 11:23 |
| brendyn | yeah i'd imagine that would be pretty lame | Jan 04 11:23 |
| Diablo-D3 | my envy24 does 44.1 native output if I request it | Jan 04 11:23 |
| Diablo-D3 | but it screws me if I watch movies | Jan 04 11:23 |
| Diablo-D3 | even though I can resample in 32-bit space (and output at 24, the input is 16), it still garbles it | Jan 04 11:24 |
| Diablo-D3 | although much less | Jan 04 11:24 |
| Diablo-D3 | the error is much much less | Jan 04 11:24 |
| brendyn | you can hear it? | Jan 04 11:24 |
| Diablo-D3 | you can hear it on high pitched stuff | Jan 04 11:24 |
| Diablo-D3 | like, heres an interesting fact: you know how everyone says mp3s sound bad? they dont if you play them on a native 44.1 dac. | Jan 04 11:25 |
| brendyn | my ears are probably too damaged to notice | Jan 04 11:25 |
| Diablo-D3 | mp3s sound actually rather good on native 44.1 output | Jan 04 11:25 |
| Diablo-D3 | for some reason, mp3 quantization just whams into typical resampler construction techniques | Jan 04 11:25 |
| Diablo-D3 | even if you use, say, a wavelet-based resampler (which tends to fix a lot of problems in similar bandwidth in/out, ie, 44.1 <-> 48), mp3 whams into it | Jan 04 11:26 |
| Diablo-D3 | brendyn: well | Jan 04 11:27 |
| Diablo-D3 | human ears are weird | Jan 04 11:27 |
| Diablo-D3 | the maximum realistic threshold of hearing is about 22-24khz | Jan 04 11:27 |
| Diablo-D3 | thanks to the nyquist-shannon sampling theorem, we need twice the sampling rate of the frequency we need to reproduce | Jan 04 11:27 |
| Diablo-D3 | so, 44.1 and 48khz | Jan 04 11:28 |
| brendyn | yeah ive tested myself a bit. i think i dip out aroun 16k, come back in then not much above 18k | Jan 04 11:28 |
| *DaemonFC sends schestowitz to AA meetings so he can learn that he has no self control and must submit to a higher power | Jan 04 11:28 | |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jan 04 11:28 |
| Diablo-D3 | BUT even though we can't hear higher frequencies, we CAN hear the quality of the reproduction | Jan 04 11:28 |
| brendyn | yes, two points to recreate the wave | Jan 04 11:28 |
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| Diablo-D3 | yeah, but our ears hear more than the two points | Jan 04 11:29 |
| Diablo-D3 | its closer to four. | Jan 04 11:29 |
| brendyn | i mean two points to generate the wave, as in its enough information | Jan 04 11:29 |
| Diablo-D3 | yeah | Jan 04 11:29 |
| Diablo-D3 | but what Im saying is | Jan 04 11:29 |
| Diablo-D3 | the meat in our brains requires more than two | Jan 04 11:29 |
| Diablo-D3 | even though we cant hear that high | Jan 04 11:29 |
| Diablo-D3 | so extreme abuse to high frequency reproduction, we can pick up on | Jan 04 11:30 |
| Diablo-D3 | so you have two options | Jan 04 11:30 |
| Diablo-D3 | either play mp3s at native 44.1khz, or filter the hell out of the high frequencies and eliminate them altogether during the resample step | Jan 04 11:30 |
| brendyn | well, clear up what "hear" means | Jan 04 11:31 |
| Diablo-D3 | hear, as in we can detect it | Jan 04 11:31 |
| brendyn | consciously noticing, or just stimulating the ear so that it sends a signal to the ear | Jan 04 11:31 |
| brendyn | to the brain* | Jan 04 11:31 |
| Diablo-D3 | consciously noticing, assuming you're not over 35 | Jan 04 11:31 |
| Diablo-D3 | though some people are better at this than others | Jan 04 11:32 |
| Diablo-D3 | especially if they're very young | Jan 04 11:32 |
| Diablo-D3 | brendyn: see | Jan 04 11:32 |
| Diablo-D3 | our brain uses something rather similar to wavelet reconstruction to understand sounds | Jan 04 11:32 |
| Diablo-D3 | so it views sound differently than, say, the past 40 years of digital sound reproduction | Jan 04 11:33 |
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| Diablo-D3 | PCM and fourier frequency space analytics is a good attempt (obviously so, thats how everything has been done for 20 years or so) but its not perfect | Jan 04 11:35 |
| digitteknohippi1 | ooh, that was almost enough to induce a geekgasm. say "PCM and fourier frequency space analytics" again. XD | Jan 04 11:47 |
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| Diablo-D3 | bad digitteknohippi1 | Jan 04 11:50 |
| brendyn | http://wakeup-world.com/2011/07/12/scientist-prove-dna-can-be-reprogrammed-by-words-frequencies/ lol | Jan 04 11:50 |
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| digitteknohippi1 | iirc, i've seen that before. not the most convincing for all that jazz. | Jan 04 11:51 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "company prepares to enter the fray with a £119 Android tablet." http://ur1.ca/7838m #linux | Jan 04 11:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Twitter data retention policy targeted in NOLOGS campaign http://t.co/chVWwHm3 | Jan 04 11:51 | |
| digitteknohippi1 | ~ coming from someone who's already sold on the premis | Jan 04 11:51 |
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| brendyn | "During these times of questioning information I always go with my heart not my head" | Jan 04 11:51 |
| brendyn | it was posted in ##English and I just felt like sharing it :P | Jan 04 11:52 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] PayPal forces buyer to destroy $2500 pre-WWII antique violin in dispute http://identi.ca/url/63788258 !bc | Jan 04 11:55 | |
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| DaemonFC | thats funny | Jan 04 11:56 |
| DaemonFC | monsanto bought a tv ad thanking American farmers | Jan 04 11:56 |
| DaemonFC | if they love them so much, they should stop suing them for having some seeds blow into their field | Jan 04 11:57 |
| Diablo-D3 | [06:49:59] <brendyn> http://wakeup-world.com/2011/07/12/scientist-prove-dna-can-be-reprogrammed-by-words-frequencies/ lol | Jan 04 11:57 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Scientists Prove DNA Can Be Reprogrammed by Words and Frequencies | Wake Up World .::. Size~: 123.84 KB | Jan 04 11:57 |
| Diablo-D3 | yeah I wish people would quit claiming that | Jan 04 11:57 |
| Diablo-D3 | thats like saying theres different sound frequencies that can awaken Godlike powers in the human mind | Jan 04 11:58 |
| Diablo-D3 | the article also repeats one of the worst myths | Jan 04 11:58 |
| Diablo-D3 | there is no truly junk DNA | Jan 04 11:58 |
| digitteknohippi1 | monsanto thanking farmers, lol. ^_^ that'd be like the bank for international settlements thanking ex-home-owners | Jan 04 11:58 |
| Diablo-D3 | digitteknohippi1: no | Jan 04 11:58 |
| Diablo-D3 | that'd be like banks suing customers of other banks | Jan 04 11:59 |
| Diablo-D3 | I'd rather get my seeds from Mother Nature, Inc. | Jan 04 11:59 |
| digitteknohippi1 | um, no... it's not like that at all. | Jan 04 11:59 |
| Diablo-D3 | yup, it really is | Jan 04 11:59 |
| Diablo-D3 | monsanto has an ongoing war against people who arent their customers yet | Jan 04 11:59 |
| Diablo-D3 | suing them for using naturally born seeds to grow crops, instead of monsanto fake seeds | Jan 04 11:59 |
| digitteknohippi1 | monsanto, buying an ad, thanking farmers, is like banks suing customers from other banks... pfff, i'm not getting it. | Jan 04 12:00 |
| Diablo-D3 | digitteknohippi1: bigger picture | Jan 04 12:00 |
| Diablo-D3 | if you're just bitching about ads, its like BP buying ads thanking the coastal region states that got hit by the Deep Horizon disaster | Jan 04 12:00 |
| Diablo-D3 | which, btw, BP has. | Jan 04 12:00 |
| brendyn | I didn't realise it was common enough for you to know about it | Jan 04 12:00 |
| digitteknohippi1 | no matter how big i make the picture, that still doesnt fit dude. i want a second opinion. ^_^ | Jan 04 12:00 |
| digitteknohippi1 | yeah, now that one fits. | Jan 04 12:01 |
| Diablo-D3 | its a misinformation campaign, nothing more. | Jan 04 12:01 |
| DaemonFC | Rick Perry, Rick Santorum, and Michelle Bachmann are all getting their asses kicked so far | Jan 04 12:01 |
| digitteknohippi1 | yeah. stay off the aspartame. | Jan 04 12:01 |
| DaemonFC | if Americans are going to be hoodwinked, I'd rather it be because they think the guy is a small government job creator than a hardline theocrat | Jan 04 12:02 |
| cubezzz | I only drink 1970's coca-cola :) | Jan 04 12:02 |
| Diablo-D3 | cubezzz: heh, pepsi is making the original sugar formula again | Jan 04 12:02 |
| digitteknohippi1 | ;D | Jan 04 12:02 |
| Diablo-D3 | ie, jew-coke | Jan 04 12:02 |
| cubezzz | what's the difference? | Jan 04 12:02 |
| digitteknohippi1 | ... :O | Jan 04 12:02 |
| DaemonFC | I drink diet coke, diet dr pepper, and diet mt dew a lot | Jan 04 12:03 |
| DaemonFC | oh well | Jan 04 12:03 |
| Diablo-D3 | real cane sugar instead of corn syrup | Jan 04 12:03 |
| cubezzz | ah right | Jan 04 12:03 |
| Diablo-D3 | tastes better, and isnt nearly as toxic | Jan 04 12:03 |
| DaemonFC | the aspartame conspiracies are largely the work of homeopathic "medicine" nuts | Jan 04 12:03 |
| Diablo-D3 | both coke and pepsi have produced it for years in the US during that time of the year jews cant consume certain crops (corn, wheat, etc) | Jan 04 12:03 |
| digitteknohippi1 | stay off the diet stuff. you're better off smoking 80 a day and drinking a pint of moonshine each night, than chugging back the diet @soft@ drinks. | Jan 04 12:03 |
| DaemonFC | Gingrich is already done | Jan 04 12:04 |
| cubezzz | actually I don't drink soda much at all now | Jan 04 12:04 |
| DaemonFC | there's a silver lining | Jan 04 12:04 |
| Diablo-D3 | its avail in largely jewish areas, like NYC | Jan 04 12:04 |
| Diablo-D3 | due to the extreme popularity of it, pepsi decided to just make it full year as pepsi throwback | Jan 04 12:04 |
| brendyn | http://killercoke.org/ we're all gonna die | Jan 04 12:04 |
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| digitteknohippi1 | heck, just stay off the addicting "soft" drinks all together. i just about died from a dr pepper addiction. | Jan 04 12:04 |
| Diablo-D3 | digitteknohippi1: caffiene is not addictive. | Jan 04 12:04 |
| digitteknohippi1 | lol. | Jan 04 12:04 |
| cubezzz | I wonder if I can get sugar cane coke in Canada | Jan 04 12:04 |
| DaemonFC | Pepsi claims that Throwback and the normal high fructose corn syrup one taste the same | Jan 04 12:04 |
| DaemonFC | I don't believe they do | Jan 04 12:05 |
| Diablo-D3 | also, it depends on the diet soda | Jan 04 12:05 |
| DaemonFC | caffeine is addictive | Jan 04 12:05 |
| digitteknohippi1 | hella addictive. | Jan 04 12:05 |
| Diablo-D3 | aspartame is a known neurotoxin | Jan 04 12:05 |
| Diablo-D3 | this is why the FDA originally banned it | Jan 04 12:05 |
| DaemonFC | aspartame is safe | Jan 04 12:05 |
| cubezzz | I used to drink those power drinks and jolt | Jan 04 12:05 |
| cubezzz | stopped doing that though | Jan 04 12:05 |
| DaemonFC | the people who claim otherwise are crackpots into "alternative" medicine | Jan 04 12:05 |
| Diablo-D3 | splenda, otoh, is not toxic in that sense, and it has very low carcinogenic potential | Jan 04 12:06 |
| Diablo-D3 | pepsi and coke both make splenda-based diet sodas | Jan 04 12:06 |
| DaemonFC | except that pepsi doesn't | Jan 04 12:06 |
| Diablo-D3 | (they both have long term plans to ditch aspartame due to the near-illegality of it) | Jan 04 12:06 |
| brendyn | i find them all flthy anyway | Jan 04 12:06 |
| DaemonFC | and coke's has aspartame in it as well as splenda | Jan 04 12:06 |
| *Diablo-D3 shrugs | Jan 04 12:06 | |
| Diablo-D3 | coffee is too expensive imo | Jan 04 12:06 |
| Diablo-D3 | at least, to do it right | Jan 04 12:07 |
| DaemonFC | read the label | Jan 04 12:07 |
| digitteknohippi1 | aspartame's so safe, they need to write "contains a source of phenylalinine" on stuff containing aspartame in the e.u., else it will both do great harm to those with phenylketoneuria, and help cause phenylketoneuria. not to mention the rest of the horrors. | Jan 04 12:07 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jan 04 12:07 |
| DaemonFC | Diet Coke With Splenda has mostly aspartame | Jan 04 12:07 |
| DaemonFC | not Splenda | Jan 04 12:07 |
| Diablo-D3 | digitteknohippi1: like I said, known neurotoxin | Jan 04 12:07 |
| cubezzz | once I had a jumbo hot chocolate at star bucks, cost me 5 bucks :) | Jan 04 12:07 |
| cubezzz | quite a rip-off | Jan 04 12:07 |
| digitteknohippi1 | yep. | Jan 04 12:07 |
| Diablo-D3 | the fact it exceeds the FDA limits on carcinogenic potential is rather pointless to mention | Jan 04 12:07 |
| Diablo-D3 | as far as Im conerned, it really is illegal and the FDA banned it. | Jan 04 12:08 |
| digitteknohippi1 | even before looking into the biology of it, it just takes looking into the history of aspartame, to know it's dodgey shit. | Jan 04 12:08 |
| DaemonFC | Starbucks is just a brand name | Jan 04 12:08 |
| DaemonFC | you could have had a large hot chocolate at a gas station for $1 | Jan 04 12:08 |
| Diablo-D3 | some dickwad by the name of donald rumsfeld reversed the ban | Jan 04 12:08 |
| *digitteknohippi1 mutters something about "fucking rumsfeld" | Jan 04 12:08 | |
| Diablo-D3 | its hilarious how much this isnt even a conspiracy | Jan 04 12:09 |
| Diablo-D3 | its detailed, completely, on wikipedia. | Jan 04 12:09 |
| iophk | http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robbie-gennet/donald-rumsfeld-and-the-s_b_805581.html | Jan 04 12:09 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] US Survey Shows Piracy Common and Accepted http://goo.gl/qJjdv - not a #MPAA funded "study" then | Jan 04 12:10 | |
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| DaemonFC | Wikipedia is not trustworthy in a lot of areas | Jan 04 12:10 |
| schestowitz | what *is* truthworthy? | Jan 04 12:10 |
| digitteknohippi1 | heh, my fave tidbit of info to share with dense skulled party-liners is that airline pilots are not allowed to consume anything with aspartame before flights. | Jan 04 12:10 |
| DaemonFC | especially governments and big companies writing, self-editing, and purging negative info from their own articles | Jan 04 12:10 |
| schestowitz | *trust | Jan 04 12:10 |
| cubezzz | huh, there really is a kosher coke | Jan 04 12:11 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Well, absolute trust is not something I give to Wikipedia | Jan 04 12:11 |
| Diablo-D3 | donald rumsfeld, congressman, chief of staff, representative to nato, secretary of defense, president of searle company (inventor of aspartame), employee of the FDA, ceo of general instrumnent, chairman of gilead.... | Jan 04 12:11 |
| DaemonFC | some of their articles are clearly biased or lies | Jan 04 12:11 |
| digitteknohippi1 | wikipedia came out about as good as traditional encyclopedias in a test for accuracy i read about a while back. no single source is entirely reliable. that's why it's called REsearch. ;) | Jan 04 12:11 |
| DaemonFC | some stuff is not cited | Jan 04 12:11 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] This week in the press: US told EU to force Taliban to be more violent inorder to alienate Afghans http://t.co/Q3aJRZVu | Jan 04 12:11 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Jan 04 12:11 |
| Diablo-D3 | did I miss anything? | Jan 04 12:11 |
| DaemonFC | some stuff uses weasel words | Jan 04 12:11 |
| Diablo-D3 | and he worked for four different presidents | Jan 04 12:12 |
| DaemonFC | some stuff that is cited uses original research or PR pages as the source, in direct violation of wikipedia policies | Jan 04 12:12 |
| Diablo-D3 | nixon, ford, bush sr, bush jr | Jan 04 12:12 |
| DaemonFC | and it stays up for months or years until someone successfully challenges it and gets it fixed or removed | Jan 04 12:12 |
| Diablo-D3 | and hes the one that got dick cheney his start in politics, dick cheney used to work for him during the ford adminsitration, and dick succeeded him as ford's chief of staff | Jan 04 12:12 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Am I glad Wikipedia made Encarta obsolete? sure | Jan 04 12:13 |
| DaemonFC | Do I trust Wikipedia without double checking important information? no | Jan 04 12:13 |
| Diablo-D3 | the same dick cheney that, you know, vice president, secretary of defense under bush sr, congressman, supported rumsfeld during the post-9/11 enhanced interrogation techniques thing | Jan 04 12:14 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: The Encarta and Comptons and Brittanica people were trying to apply old media concepts that they used for years to make excess profits to their electronic counterpartsthings like "yearbook" subscriptions | Jan 04 12:14 |
| digitteknohippi1 | there's always room for questioning any info or source of info. it seems kinda redundant (or poorly veiled shill-ery) to bother saying so for any specific source [wikipedia]. | Jan 04 12:14 |
| DaemonFC | and Wikipedia just flat out put an end to that | Jan 04 12:15 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 4/1/2012: Mozilla Public License 2.0, Pear OS Linux Debian Edition http://ur1.ca/7854r | Jan 04 12:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #5live desperate to get the "live scoop" on the #Lawrence sentencing, reporter is failing to listen and report | Jan 04 12:15 | |
| DaemonFC | that's probably my favorite thing about wikipedia | Jan 04 12:15 |
| Diablo-D3 | digitteknohippi1: yeah, but when wikipedia details it as rather boring fact with a shitload of sources... | Jan 04 12:15 |
| Diablo-D3 | its no longer a conspiracy | Jan 04 12:15 |
| Diablo-D3 | its not much of a secret when EVERYONE knows it.] | Jan 04 12:15 |
| digitteknohippi1 | i wuda thought a conspiracy would cease being a conspiracy, when those involved cease conspiring. ;D | Jan 04 12:16 |
| Diablo-D3 | no | Jan 04 12:16 |
| digitteknohippi1 | wow... what newspeak could be coming to refute that.... | Jan 04 12:16 |
| Diablo-D3 | it ceases to be a conspiracy when it starts being a rather morose joke. | Jan 04 12:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Error processing the URL | Jan 04 12:17 |
| *Diablo-D3 has a rather cynical look at the world, so *cough* | Jan 04 12:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] David Carr Explains Why Everyone Should Be Against #SOPA http://goo.gl/z3ub3 | Jan 04 12:18 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: David Carr Explains Why Everyone Should Be Against SOPA | Techdirt .::. Size~: 69.21 KB | Jan 04 12:18 |
| iophk | In that is a good link, though a little old: | Jan 04 12:20 |
| iophk | http://motherboard.vice.com/2011/12/16/dear-congress-it-s-no-longer-ok-to-not-know-how-the-internet-works | Jan 04 12:20 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Dear Congress, It's No Longer OK To Not Know How The Internet Works | Motherboard .::. Size~: 55.27 KB | Jan 04 12:20 |
| iophk | "The fact that there was any debate over whether to call in experts on such a matter should tell you something about the integrity of Congress." | Jan 04 12:22 |
| DaemonFC | there is enough false claims out there that sound just scientific enough to convince simple people that don't know any better | Jan 04 12:25 |
| Diablo-D3 | iophk: you should follow my identica feed, honestly | Jan 04 12:25 |
| DaemonFC | sometimes it's profitable, like "homeopathy" | Jan 04 12:25 |
| *Diablo-D3 has posted TONS of anti-sopa links | Jan 04 12:25 | |
| DaemonFC | sometimes it's just weird, like claims that the planet "Nibiru" is going to collide with Earth this year | Jan 04 12:26 |
| DaemonFC | the woman who started that said she knew about it because she was speaking with aliens | Jan 04 12:26 |
| digitteknohippi1 | oh yeah, the project elenin stuff. idk if that's a recursive misinfo joke or what. | Jan 04 12:27 |
| DaemonFC | and the original collision date was in 2003 | Jan 04 12:27 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jan 04 12:27 |
| DaemonFC | so it got bumped up to Dec 21st, 2012 and they peppered it with scientific-sounding crap | Jan 04 12:27 |
| digitteknohippi1 | something like 17th of oct last year was the latest i heard about. was gonna be 20 on the richter scale. lol | Jan 04 12:27 |
| Diablo-D3 | >recursive joke | Jan 04 12:28 |
| Diablo-D3 | glorious.jpg | Jan 04 12:28 |
| *DaemonFC sends Nibiru on a collision course with schestowitz | Jan 04 12:28 | |
| DaemonFC | I went and bought a Logitech bluetooth keyboard and tablet stand | Jan 04 12:31 |
| DaemonFC | I've never liked virtual keyboards | Jan 04 12:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Note that it has been US military counter-insurgency policy, since 2003, to force insurgents to attack civilians. | Jan 04 12:31 | |
| digitteknohippi1 | we've still got about 80,000 nukes, right? any planet x comes too near, how about we go mad with them on it... n i bet all those many haarp style installations dotted around surely have some useful capabilities in that event too. | Jan 04 12:32 |
| DaemonFC | I could see why that would be their policy | Jan 04 12:32 |
| DaemonFC | if you can't tell who is who until the shooting starts, provoke a shooting | Jan 04 12:32 |
| DaemonFC | digitteknohippi1: The "planet Nibiru" is supposedly a rogue planet. | Jan 04 12:32 |
| DaemonFC | When asked why nobody could see it (it would have to be brighter than Mars or Jupiter at this point if it were to hit us later this year) | Jan 04 12:33 |
| DaemonFC | the crackpots claimed it is hiding behind the sun | Jan 04 12:33 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jan 04 12:33 |
| digitteknohippi1 | lol. | Jan 04 12:33 |
| digitteknohippi1 | i've heard many an explanation.... | Jan 04 12:33 |
| DaemonFC | but, even if that was the case, it would (1) be detected because of the gravitational effect on the sun | Jan 04 12:34 |
| DaemonFC | and since it would have to come out of hiding and be thrown from this "orbit" to be on a collision course with Earth, we would have seen it already | Jan 04 12:34 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] honest companies could offer their T&C in read-only wiki form, so peeps can see the changes, and why (plain English) | Jan 04 12:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fsmag/@fsmag] #Android is great but we need root access. Now! We must own our hardware. http://bit.ly/x8nZLB #android_smartphone #galaxys #mobile #droid | Jan 04 12:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fsmag/@fsmag] #SOPA. Red hot issue. Only a "solution" to protect wealthy publishers. http://bit.ly/AiKpWv #fsmag #freesoftware #stopsopa #protectip | Jan 04 12:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fsmag/@fsmag] #Blender Foundation added motion tracking with Project Mango. Now you can add 3D animated objects to real footage. http://bit.ly/sNJXGt | Jan 04 12:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] unfortunately, transparency goes against the interests of most companies - there's profit in keeping folks confused & uninformed | Jan 04 12:35 | |
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| DaemonFC | so unless the Romulans put a cloak on it and accounted for the gravity thing, I don't think it could be out there | Jan 04 12:35 |
| DaemonFC | but that won't stop millions from believing it | Jan 04 12:35 |
| DaemonFC | the viral marketing site for the Sony Pictures movie "2012" mentioned a possible collision with "Planet X", and NASA got swarmed with emails from people concerned that a rogue planet would really hit Earth | Jan 04 12:36 |
| digitteknohippi1 | "they can see it, they just deny deny deny", "it's just really dark", "chemtrails are used to cover it up", "project bluebeam is used to cover it up" .... heh, the more i delve into that one, the more it seems like a disinformationists comedy excersize | Jan 04 12:36 |
| DaemonFC | it doesn't even take anything more than a promotional website for a movie to convince people of this stuff | Jan 04 12:36 |
| DaemonFC | so it makes sense t me why there are so many end of the world cults | Jan 04 12:36 |
| DaemonFC | all someone has to say is that they're talking to Jesus or space aliens or something and they'll get followers | Jan 04 12:38 |
| DaemonFC | and when they're wrong, they can backtrack and explain it some other way and change the date | Jan 04 12:38 |
| DaemonFC | and most of their followers will stay | Jan 04 12:38 |
| digitteknohippi1 | or men in white coats. ... depending on where and in what company one says these things | Jan 04 12:38 |
| DaemonFC | Jesus gets you followers | Jan 04 12:39 |
| DaemonFC | space aliens gets you men in white coats | Jan 04 12:39 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jan 04 12:39 |
| digitteknohippi1 | lol, not around here. more likely other way around. ;) | Jan 04 12:39 |
| DaemonFC | if you're starting a cult, tell people Jesus is talking to you | Jan 04 12:39 |
| DaemonFC | my favorite TV channels are being taken over by sleazy reality TV shows and other freakery | Jan 04 12:40 |
| digitteknohippi1 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnNSe5XYp6E | Jan 04 12:40 |
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| DaemonFC | The History Channel has been maybe 50/50 interesting stuff vs. crap lately | Jan 04 12:41 |
| DaemonFC | it seems to be the worst of them | Jan 04 12:41 |
| digitteknohippi1 | cultural dumbing down. saturate the worthless eaters in intelectual bilge, and they'll be easier to herd around. | Jan 04 12:41 |
| DaemonFC | Science Channel has a few things that are or border on the absurd | Jan 04 12:41 |
| digitteknohippi1 | i wish they'd bring back something like einstein tv. something with a bar to reach for. | Jan 04 12:42 |
| DaemonFC | Animal Planet is looking for Bigfoot | Jan 04 12:42 |
| MinceR | it's not the Romulans that are cloaking Nibiru, it's the Anunnaki ;) | Jan 04 12:43 |
| DaemonFC | it is the Romulan Star Empire | Jan 04 12:44 |
| DaemonFC | or possibly Anubis | Jan 04 12:44 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jan 04 12:44 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Document Exchange – EU Commission explains how they slapped their citizens in the face http://ur1.ca/785yh | Jan 04 12:45 | |
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| digitteknohippi1 | um... doesnt anunnaki translate to "those from heaven [space] came"? sounds rather generic and broad. ... they could be romulans. ;) | Jan 04 12:45 |
| MinceR | lol | Jan 04 12:45 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: Bring me the electronic clipboard, and get ready to initiate time space warp | Jan 04 12:46 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jan 04 12:46 |
| digitteknohippi1 | ftl ftw | Jan 04 12:46 |
| MinceR | :) | Jan 04 12:46 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Poder da maçonaria nas secretas azeda as relações entre PSD e PS | Económico - quando desaparece esta escumalha? #pt http://goo.gl/t7Tuv | Jan 04 12:46 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Poder da maçonaria nas secretas azeda as relações entre PSD e PS | Económico .::. Size~: 71.3 KB | Jan 04 12:46 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: "We come in peace, shoot to kill, shoot to kill, shoot to kill!" | Jan 04 12:46 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: Mars Attacks | Jan 04 12:47 |
| DaemonFC | Don't run, we are your friends | Jan 04 12:47 |
| digitteknohippi1 | ack ack ack ack | Jan 04 12:47 |
| DaemonFC | ;) | Jan 04 12:47 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: wrong | Jan 04 12:47 |
| Diablo-D3 | pretty sure thats set phasers to stun, shoot to kill | Jan 04 12:48 |
| DaemonFC | I preferred the mirror universe | Jan 04 12:48 |
| DaemonFC | you advance in rank by killing your superiors | Jan 04 12:49 |
| DaemonFC | incompetence is punished with the agonizer | Jan 04 12:49 |
| cubezzz | Diablo-D3, have you seen Kirk on bluray yet? | Jan 04 12:49 |
| DaemonFC | in that universe, humanity is more like the Klingons | Jan 04 12:49 |
| cubezzz | damn, all these youngesters talking about original Trek | Jan 04 12:50 |
| Diablo-D3 | cubezzz: er? | Jan 04 12:50 |
| cubezzz | TOS | Jan 04 12:50 |
| DaemonFC | cubezzz: I've seen them all | Jan 04 12:50 |
| Diablo-D3 | oh no, not yet | Jan 04 12:50 |
| Diablo-D3 | I heard the new improved cgi cutscenes are nice though | Jan 04 12:50 |
| DaemonFC | TOS wasn't my favorite, but it was probably the best thing to hit US television in the 1960s | Jan 04 12:50 |
| cubezzz | 60s TV was good | Jan 04 12:51 |
| cubezzz | early 70's too | Jan 04 12:51 |
| DaemonFC | nah | Jan 04 12:51 |
| Diablo-D3 | meh, kirk didnt become kirk until stII | Jan 04 12:51 |
| DaemonFC | the only other thing on TV then that was any good was Doctor Who | Jan 04 12:51 |
| digitteknohippi1 | DaemonFC: in TOS maybe. by the time they come to ds9, thnx to the change of events from the enterprise crew, humanity is more like... like... like worse off even than black slaves in the 1900s | Jan 04 12:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] US military policy of trying to force insurgents to attack civilians was honed in el Salvador; See 'CSDF' http://t.co/nOF2Kok4 | Jan 04 12:51 | |
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| DaemonFC | and the US TV networks never aired the original Doctor Who series until the 90s when it was all reruns | Jan 04 12:51 |
| digitteknohippi1 | heh, and painfully dated | Jan 04 12:52 |
| MinceR | Diablo-D3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCARADb9asE | Jan 04 12:52 |
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| DaemonFC | digitteknohippi1: The Eugenics Wars of the "1990s" | Jan 04 12:52 |
| cubezzz | ah, I liked the original Dr Who | Jan 04 12:52 |
| digitteknohippi1 | XD | Jan 04 12:52 |
| DaemonFC | digitteknohippi1: According to DS9, the United States will set up partition zones in the 2020s to send the poor and homeless to | Jan 04 12:53 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: yes, I have an mp3 of this. | Jan 04 12:53 |
| DaemonFC | which starts the "Bell Riots" | Jan 04 12:53 |
| cubezzz | I liked that episode where you were just ordered into the disintegrator chamber | Jan 04 12:53 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: its usually in my playlist too | Jan 04 12:53 |
| MinceR | Diablo-D3: then you should have recognized the quote | Jan 04 12:53 |
| cubezzz | rather than fight a real war | Jan 04 12:53 |
| DaemonFC | in the 2040s, World War 3 | Jan 04 12:53 |
| DaemonFC | nuclear war | Jan 04 12:53 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: I did, thus I corrected it. | Jan 04 12:53 |
| MinceR | you didn't | Jan 04 12:54 |
| cubezzz | qed :) | Jan 04 12:54 |
| MinceR | thus you "corrected" it | Jan 04 12:54 |
| digitteknohippi1 | u sure it's 2000s, n not 2100s? | Jan 04 12:54 |
| DaemonFC | yeah | Jan 04 12:54 |
| digitteknohippi1 | k, i'll take your word for it. | Jan 04 12:54 |
| DaemonFC | Sisko and some of the others accidentally went back in time to Earth during the Bell riots | Jan 04 12:54 |
| DaemonFC | and I believe the year was 2024 | Jan 04 12:54 |
| digitteknohippi1 | i recall the episode well. | Jan 04 12:54 |
| cubezzz | you can't trust star trek history :) | Jan 04 12:54 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: huh, maybe you did get it write | Jan 04 12:55 |
| Diablo-D3 | er, right | Jan 04 12:55 |
| cubezzz | we still don't have sleeper ships :) | Jan 04 12:55 |
| DaemonFC | it was one of those paradox things where in going back in time, they actually started the riots that were part of their own history | Jan 04 12:55 |
| MinceR | Diablo-D3: lol fail | Jan 04 12:55 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jan 04 12:55 |
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| digitteknohippi1 | predestined, yeah | Jan 04 12:56 |
| digitteknohippi1 | temporal mechanics "we hate those" | Jan 04 12:56 |
| DaemonFC | the worst thing about temporal mechanics is their hourly rate | Jan 04 12:56 |
| cubezzz | Nomad was pretty cool, but utterly implausible | Jan 04 12:56 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jan 04 12:56 |
| digitteknohippi1 | i dont think that actually was one of them though. ... they did actually take out the original bell, and caused the problem in the first place. they had to repair a timeline, not ensure a temporal loop took place. | Jan 04 12:57 |
| cubezzz | if I was to write Star Trek, I'd do away with time travel | Jan 04 12:57 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Life is so much easier if you are an unprincipled arse. | Jan 04 12:58 | |
| DaemonFC | oh, they killed him and ended up having to start the riot themselves to maintain the timeline | Jan 04 12:58 |
| DaemonFC | it's been a long time since I saw DS9 | Jan 04 12:58 |
| digitteknohippi1 | ... or at least get it in line with more plain, intrinsic time travel, like from fast travel, like if the heisenberg compensators broke. | Jan 04 12:58 |
| Diablo-D3 | the heisenberg compensator is on the transporter damnit | Jan 04 12:59 |
| digitteknohippi1 | they didnt start the riot, they just helped steer it's outcome. | Jan 04 12:59 |
| DaemonFC | DS9 was a good departure from the utopian future that was always portrayed in the other series | Jan 04 12:59 |
| digitteknohippi1 | damn, what's the one where it compensates for the temporal dilation from relativity difference during high speed travel? | Jan 04 12:59 |
| cubezzz | utopian future with... a Doomsday Machine :) | Jan 04 12:59 |
| DaemonFC | I don't think that humans will ever end war, the need for mone, the shortage of food, sommon diseases... | Jan 04 13:00 |
| cubezzz | not too "Utopian" | Jan 04 13:00 |
| Diablo-D3 | digitteknohippi1: the warp drive. | Jan 04 13:00 |
| digitteknohippi1 | :P | Jan 04 13:00 |
| DaemonFC | well, if we did cure cancer, we'd only be doing it for the rich | Jan 04 13:00 |
| Diablo-D3 | see, what they do is form a warp bubble of normal space around the ship, and then just accelerate the bubble | Jan 04 13:00 |
| DaemonFC | even if it didn't cost that much to perform the treatment | Jan 04 13:00 |
| DaemonFC | it would when they were done with it | Jan 04 13:00 |
| DaemonFC | same with HIV or such | Jan 04 13:00 |
| digitteknohippi1 | yeah, ok, sure, the warp bubble compensates for it intrinsically, but there is a specific doohickey, that they named after some quantum physicsist or someone, ... | Jan 04 13:00 |
| Diablo-D3 | so the ship isnt moving according to the laws of space | Jan 04 13:00 |
| cubezzz | forget warp, I'd be amazed by 1/10 of C | Jan 04 13:01 |
| DaemonFC | if the pills to cure cancer or HIV cost 5 cents, they'd jack it up to $50,000 or something | Jan 04 13:01 |
| cubezzz | 1/100th even | Jan 04 13:01 |
| DaemonFC | just because there are people that need it and they only feel that the people who can afford it are worth saving | Jan 04 13:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] More on the CSDF force insurgents to attack civilians concept http://t.co/5EA5Fgmb | Jan 04 13:01 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Jan 04 13:01 |
| Diablo-D3 | cubezzz: well, TNG warp speed is an asymptotic scale | Jan 04 13:02 |
| DaemonFC | they still like to keep it bellow Warp Factor 10 | Jan 04 13:03 |
| cubezzz | I liked the original warp factors better | Jan 04 13:03 |
| DaemonFC | except in cases where the plot requires them to cover great distances at a much faster speed | Jan 04 13:03 |
| DaemonFC | *below | Jan 04 13:03 |
| cubezzz | what was it.... 2^3 = 8 times the speed of light? | Jan 04 13:04 |
| Diablo-D3 | the original was broken | Jan 04 13:04 |
| Diablo-D3 | it allowed >10 speeds | Jan 04 13:04 |
| cubezzz | so warp 2 is 8x | Jan 04 13:04 |
| Diablo-D3 | both old and new, warp 1 is speed of light | Jan 04 13:04 |
| Diablo-D3 | new, 2 is 8 times, 3 is 27 times | Jan 04 13:04 |
| DaemonFC | in Enterprise, the engine was a "Warp Five" model, with an effective maximum of like Warp 4.8 | Jan 04 13:04 |
| DaemonFC | but they pushed it just past Warp 5 a few times | Jan 04 13:04 |
| DaemonFC | usually causing severe damage to the engine | Jan 04 13:04 |
| Diablo-D3 | er, old | Jan 04 13:05 |
| cubezzz | I think they did warp 14 once | Jan 04 13:05 |
| cubezzz | That Which Survives? | Jan 04 13:05 |
| Diablo-D3 | no, they had writer failure | Jan 04 13:05 |
| Diablo-D3 | it was extremely high warm 9 | Jan 04 13:05 |
| *schestowitz restarts apache in TR | Jan 04 13:05 | |
| Diablo-D3 | *warp | Jan 04 13:05 |
| Diablo-D3 | cubezzz: it would have probably been 14 on the old scale | Jan 04 13:05 |
| DaemonFC | in the last TNG episode, where Q splits Picard between a past, present, and future version, the future Enterprise is capable of Warp 13 | Jan 04 13:06 |
| Diablo-D3 | and all good things also had a broken warp scale too | Jan 04 13:06 |
| DaemonFC | it also has a cloak | Jan 04 13:06 |
| cubezzz | Diablo-D3, yeah but this was a TOS episode | Jan 04 13:06 |
| DaemonFC | and the weapons systems have been upgraded to easily deal with the Klingons | Jan 04 13:06 |
| Diablo-D3 | was it? | Jan 04 13:06 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/88079949 http://identi.ca/notice/88079546 | Jan 04 13:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @satipera (satipera)'s status on Wednesday, 04-Jan-12 13:00:13 UTC - Identi.ca: @Schestowitz I updated it twice no joy 3rd you are up and running. | Jan 04 13:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @satipera (satipera)'s status on Wednesday, 04-Jan-12 12:51:55 UTC - Identi.ca: @Schestowitz My liferea client is showing your TR feed as not working. | Jan 04 13:06 |
| Diablo-D3 | they did at least three in TNG that were writer failure | Jan 04 13:06 |
| cubezzz | oh? which ones? | Jan 04 13:06 |
| Diablo-D3 | I cant quite remember | Jan 04 13:06 |
| Diablo-D3 | its been forever since Ive seen tng | Jan 04 13:07 |
| cubezzz | Nth Degree? | Jan 04 13:07 |
| Diablo-D3 | voy has a few wtfs | Jan 04 13:07 |
| Diablo-D3 | and, for the record, the rainbow god salamander episode never happened | Jan 04 13:07 |
| cubezzz | the one where Barclay becomes super-intelligent | Jan 04 13:07 |
| Diablo-D3 | it _never_ _happened_ | Jan 04 13:07 |
| DaemonFC | Voyager just does what the rest always do | Jan 04 13:07 |
| cubezzz | hahaha, I actually saw that one | Jan 04 13:07 |
| schestowitz | apache and varnish went defunct some minutes ago and I received an automated alert about it. Fixed now. | Jan 04 13:08 |
| Diablo-D3 | DURR HURR WARP 10, OH HAY WE'RE MORMONS! | Jan 04 13:08 |
| DaemonFC | introduce some new technology as needed and explain why they can't use it all the time | Jan 04 13:08 |
| Diablo-D3 | cubezzz: but basically, the scale is fucked | Jan 04 13:08 |
| Diablo-D3 | and it always will be | Jan 04 13:08 |
| cubezzz | yeah I don't think Voyager was as good | Jan 04 13:08 |
| Diablo-D3 | the TOS scale was based on complex math, and they thought a cubic scale would work | Jan 04 13:09 |
| cubezzz | what's wrong with the cubic scale? | Jan 04 13:09 |
| Diablo-D3 | except the federation came up with a better technology, so they COULD go faster than 10 regularly | Jan 04 13:09 |
| cubezzz | it's all fictional anyways :) | Jan 04 13:09 |
| DaemonFC | there was the USS Equinox, which reconfigured their engines to run on the dead bodies of transdimensional aliens that they lured into normal space and killed | Jan 04 13:09 |
| Diablo-D3 | so the new scale uses even more complex math, so someone decided, hey, I can do this interesting thing on my TI calculator | Jan 04 13:09 |
| Diablo-D3 | and they did that | Jan 04 13:09 |
| Diablo-D3 | cubezzz: yes/no | Jan 04 13:10 |
| Diablo-D3 | real world shit does that too | Jan 04 13:10 |
| Diablo-D3 | new technology comes up, and your old scale is broken | Jan 04 13:10 |
| DaemonFC | but the others didn't like it and could enter normal space for a few seconds at a time to attack the Equinox crew | Jan 04 13:10 |
| DaemonFC | so by the time Voyager found them, there were only a handful left alive and the Equinox was pretty banged up | Jan 04 13:10 |
| Diablo-D3 | and then voyager has the goddamned transwarp tunnels | Jan 04 13:11 |
| Diablo-D3 | which make no fucking sense | Jan 04 13:11 |
| cubezzz | for speed? | Jan 04 13:11 |
| Diablo-D3 | yeah for speed | Jan 04 13:11 |
| Diablo-D3 | or capacity | Jan 04 13:11 |
| Diablo-D3 | or whatever applies | Jan 04 13:11 |
| DaemonFC | Transwarp was a Borg technology | Jan 04 13:11 |
| DaemonFC | it required the use of "hubs" which were in Borg-infested space and heavily guarded | Jan 04 13:11 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Tested 2 !RedHat engineers re grokking !heehaw. 1 had blank expression, other assumed ref to ~1970 variety show. @bkuhn we've work to do. | Jan 04 13:11 | |
| DaemonFC | that's how Voyager eventually got back to the Alpha quadrant | Jan 04 13:12 |
| DaemonFC | a future version of Janeway came back with a bunch of futuristic anti-Borg armor and weaponry | Jan 04 13:12 |
| DaemonFC | how convenient ;) | Jan 04 13:12 |
| Diablo-D3 | cubezzz: see, star trek internally isnt consistent | Jan 04 13:12 |
| Diablo-D3 | like | Jan 04 13:12 |
| Diablo-D3 | you have real world wormholes | Jan 04 13:13 |
| Diablo-D3 | like what ds9 is around | Jan 04 13:13 |
| cubezzz | you could say the bit and byte are logarithmic scales | Jan 04 13:13 |
| cubezzz | but I can't think of any example for speed | Jan 04 13:13 |
| Diablo-D3 | then you have transwarp conduits, which the borg use, and are a completely different kind of wormhole | Jan 04 13:13 |
| cubezzz | Diablo-D3, you said it yourself: different writers | Jan 04 13:14 |
| cubezzz | people come and go | Jan 04 13:14 |
| Diablo-D3 | and then you have quantum slipstreams, which are what every other show calls hyperspace | Jan 04 13:14 |
| Diablo-D3 | cubezzz: yeah | Jan 04 13:14 |
| Diablo-D3 | but st has a writers bible | Jan 04 13:14 |
| digitteknohippi1 | cannot go past warp 10. warp 10 means you occupy every where in the cosmos, and use infinite energy. the episode where u get to see a future where they talk about warp 14, is where they remapped the warp scale. | Jan 04 13:14 |
| Diablo-D3 | digitteknohippi1: no | Jan 04 13:14 |
| Diablo-D3 | there is at least three different warp 10s | Jan 04 13:15 |
| cubezzz | reaching C requires infinite energy :) | Jan 04 13:15 |
| Diablo-D3 | TOS warp 10 can be broken its just rare | Jan 04 13:15 |
| digitteknohippi1 | ':-| | Jan 04 13:15 |
| cubezzz | unless you're a photon | Jan 04 13:15 |
| Diablo-D3 | TNG warp 10 can be broken, it just requires Q or other bullshit | Jan 04 13:15 |
| Diablo-D3 | VOY warp 10, which is "the same speed" as TNG warp 10, can be broken, it just requires Mormon magic underwear. | Jan 04 13:15 |
| digitteknohippi1 | o right, didnt realise tos was different on that. ... i was raised on tng. and no, u still cant go past warp 10. not even q. | Jan 04 13:15 |
| Diablo-D3 | digitteknohippi1: Q threw the Ent-D at one point | Jan 04 13:16 |
| Diablo-D3 | it was going faster than warp 10 | Jan 04 13:16 |
| Diablo-D3 | but it might have not been traveling through normal space | Jan 04 13:16 |
| cubezzz | and there was that episode "Where No One Has Gone Before" | Jan 04 13:16 |
| digitteknohippi1 | yeah, threw them at a speed of something like warp 9.99999999999. not warp 10. at no point did they occupy every point in the cosmos at once. | Jan 04 13:16 |
| Diablo-D3 | digitteknohippi1: its an asymptotic scale | Jan 04 13:16 |
| cubezzz | they go into that weird Universe where thought == reality | Jan 04 13:17 |
| Diablo-D3 | digitteknohippi1: so 1 is slow, 9 is fast, 9.9 is very fast, 9.99 is fucking fast, 9.999 is even faster, etc | Jan 04 13:17 |
| cubezzz | see, you could just start talking about Multiverse Travel > warp 10 | Jan 04 13:18 |
| digitteknohippi1 | you're explaining stuff to me that i already know. | Jan 04 13:18 |
| Diablo-D3 | but st falls apart when you throw in OTHER shit | Jan 04 13:18 |
| digitteknohippi1 | travelling multiversally neednt (and likely wont) involve warp 10. | Jan 04 13:18 |
| Diablo-D3 | you have the ds9 wormhole which seems to be a classical wormhole | Jan 04 13:18 |
| cubezzz | yeah well it's all BS :) | Jan 04 13:19 |
| cubezzz | we can't send a guy to Mars | Jan 04 13:19 |
| Diablo-D3 | then you have borg transwarp bullshit, which is more realistic quantum wormholes (which wont deconstruction matter inside the warp bubble, but will otherwise) | Jan 04 13:20 |
| Diablo-D3 | then you have the quantum slipstream shit, which uses standard warp bubbles, but the warp bubble isnt normal space | Jan 04 13:20 |
| digitteknohippi1 | heh so sure we cant send guys to mars are you? what about the aledged stargate tech, and then the 1950s expedition to mars... | Jan 04 13:21 |
| digitteknohippi1 | o yeah, i forgot about that slipstreamstuff... and that other one i forget what | Jan 04 13:21 |
| MinceR | http://narf-archive.com/pix/2d3f07d4feb650122fc21556e76ef43569ff1456.jpeg | Jan 04 13:21 |
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| cubezzz | we don't have HAL 9000 either | Jan 04 13:22 |
| cubezzz | science fiction is very optimistic | Jan 04 13:23 |
| cubezzz | 2001 was over 10 years ago | Jan 04 13:23 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Bankers ... we absolutely stink but only the riff raff can smell it so who cares? | Jan 04 13:23 | |
| digitteknohippi1 | we are ahead of schedule on communicators and even trichorders and replicators now too | Jan 04 13:23 |
| digitteknohippi1 | oh, and teleportation. afaik, in the star trek timeline, teleportation is a long way off. | Jan 04 13:23 |
| digitteknohippi1 | i cant wait for full on holodecks... so i can have safe lightsaber battles. | Jan 04 13:24 |
| cubezzz | well I suppose some big break-through is possible | Jan 04 13:24 |
| Diablo-D3 | its funny | Jan 04 13:25 |
| cubezzz | most of what I've seen in SF didn't happen | Jan 04 13:25 |
| Diablo-D3 | 2001 was far more correct in its vision of the future than pretty much anything else | Jan 04 13:25 |
| Diablo-D3 | it was just a few years too early | Jan 04 13:25 |
| digitteknohippi1 | like einstein said in many ways, many times... imagination > knowledge. knowledge circumscribes limits. it's the imagination that can compell and propell us forward to new achievements. | Jan 04 13:25 |
| cubezzz | I'd love a computer I could talk to | Jan 04 13:26 |
| cubezzz | doesn't exist | Jan 04 13:26 |
| Diablo-D3 | cubezzz: actually | Jan 04 13:26 |
| digitteknohippi1 | heh, sure you would... once it could actually talk adequately... | Jan 04 13:26 |
| Diablo-D3 | it almost does. | Jan 04 13:26 |
| cubezzz | I can imagine all I want... doesn't change a thing | Jan 04 13:26 |
| Diablo-D3 | siri could be hal's grandmother. | Jan 04 13:26 |
| MinceR | you can talk to any computer | Jan 04 13:26 |
| MinceR | it might not listen, though. | Jan 04 13:27 |
| digitteknohippi1 | ever tried speech reccognition? ever tried chat bots? imagine how infuriating it'd be combining both technologies as they are available to the public these days. | Jan 04 13:27 |
| cubezzz | I mean hold an actual conversation :) | Jan 04 13:27 |
| MinceR | siri isn't even new, android could do that ages before | Jan 04 13:27 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: siri is newish | Jan 04 13:27 |
| cubezzz | well Watson is promising | Jan 04 13:28 |
| Diablo-D3 | siri's tech is much more advanced, but its not because of apple | Jan 04 13:28 |
| cubezzz | but it's mainly a text processor | Jan 04 13:28 |
| Diablo-D3 | they just bought a company that was making it | Jan 04 13:28 |
| digitteknohippi1 | yeah, any time the mainstream are jibbering about some "new" amazing technology, u can rest assured, it's far from new, it's just newly wrapped in dumb-down glossy plastic | Jan 04 13:28 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Groovesharking | Jan 04 13:28 | |
| Diablo-D3 | said company is a darpa project. | Jan 04 13:28 |
| MinceR | yet it doesn't accomplish more | Jan 04 13:28 |
| Diablo-D3 | siri is merely 30 years of speech recognition research by the military | Jan 04 13:28 |
| MinceR | it searches the web for terms you say | Jan 04 13:28 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: actually | Jan 04 13:28 |
| MinceR | using a speech recognition software running on a server | Jan 04 13:29 |
| Diablo-D3 | its more like wolfram alpah | Jan 04 13:29 |
| Diablo-D3 | it can even use WA for some search terms | Jan 04 13:29 |
| cubezzz | a perfect example of diminishing returns... look at operating systems | Jan 04 13:29 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: well, the thing there is | Jan 04 13:29 |
| MinceR | WA is just like a search engine, some search engines use WA | Jan 04 13:29 |
| Diablo-D3 | it DOES use apple's processing cloud | Jan 04 13:29 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: WA is a calculation engine | Jan 04 13:29 |
| MinceR | yes, and bìng is a "decision engine" | Jan 04 13:29 |
| Diablo-D3 | its really mathematica behind it plugged into a shitload of info databases | Jan 04 13:29 |
| MinceR | thing is, nobody cares | Jan 04 13:29 |
| Diablo-D3 | it doesnt search anything | Jan 04 13:29 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: erm, go troll elsewhere | Jan 04 13:30 |
| MinceR | yes, it just magically gets the data from the database, without searching it | Jan 04 13:30 |
| MinceR | no, you go troll elsewhere | Jan 04 13:30 |
| digitteknohippi1 | sounds like a load of PR marketting bs spin to me. "calculation engine", "decision engine", etc | Jan 04 13:30 |
| MinceR | digitteknohippi1: it is | Jan 04 13:30 |
| cubezzz | Babbages Engine :) | Jan 04 13:30 |
| digitteknohippi1 | XD | Jan 04 13:30 |
| cubezzz | just wait | Jan 04 13:30 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: a database search is not a search engine. | Jan 04 13:30 |
| MinceR | also, the "it's crApple so it must be innovative" bullshit | Jan 04 13:30 |
| Diablo-D3 | digitteknohippi1: it is | Jan 04 13:30 |
| Diablo-D3 | digitteknohippi1: but WA is a calculator, google is a directory. | Jan 04 13:31 |
| Diablo-D3 | they're both very useful, but for different reasons. | Jan 04 13:31 |
| *digitteknohippi1 likes the charles babbage babbages engine notion | Jan 04 13:31 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: nice one about Blows | Jan 04 13:31 |
| MinceR | if Diablo-D3 ever used google, he'd know that google is also a calculator, among other things :> | Jan 04 13:31 |
| Diablo-D3 | google does have a calc now, but it kinda sucks | Jan 04 13:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Lets Face the Music and dance. #music | Jan 04 13:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] Why does the rule not work? Who says they are free to eat it? A & B? But it belongs to C? If so, this is tough to answer how? Still bogus. | Jan 04 13:31 | |
| Diablo-D3 | Ive been using WA a lot recently to do complex math | Jan 04 13:31 |
| Diablo-D3 | very useful | Jan 04 13:31 |
| MinceR | irrelevant | Jan 04 13:32 |
| DaemonFC | Google Books has DOS For Dummies | Jan 04 13:32 |
| DaemonFC | for $15 | Jan 04 13:32 |
| MinceR | :) | Jan 04 13:32 |
| digitteknohippi1 | wudnt it be better if u could run your own copy of it on your own computer, and get back control over your computing... | Jan 04 13:32 |
| cubezzz | does it have Google for Dummies? :) | Jan 04 13:32 |
| MinceR | does it have Dummies for Dummies? :) | Jan 04 13:32 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: well no, dont get me wrong | Jan 04 13:33 |
| Diablo-D3 | I wish google's calc was as good as wa | Jan 04 13:33 |
| DaemonFC | Windows 7 for Dummies is $17 | Jan 04 13:33 |
| DaemonFC | you can save $2 and learn DOS instead | Jan 04 13:33 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jan 04 13:33 |
| cubezzz | yeah well, no Amiga for Dummies at least | Jan 04 13:34 |
| Diablo-D3 | btw, siri DOES have one really useful feature | Jan 04 13:34 |
| Diablo-D3 | hijacking siri requests with a dummy daemon to teach it new things | Jan 04 13:34 |
| DaemonFC | lots of Linux books | Jan 04 13:34 |
| Diablo-D3 | I hope the same thing can be done with google's siri competitor | Jan 04 13:34 |
| Diablo-D3 | what use is a singular information interface if you cant teach it new tricks? | Jan 04 13:34 |
| DaemonFC | but everything in a Linux distribution changes too fast to be documented well in a paperback book | Jan 04 13:35 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] does this actually mean "Expand and codify" Fair Use? | Jan 04 13:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Steve Jobs did not have to die http://ur1.ca/786we Is this joke morbid? http://ur1.ca/786wg | Jan 04 13:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] Rainer schreibt Fanpost an Neelie Kroes http://ur1.ca/786uh zu #Guttenberg und #Endlager | Jan 04 13:35 | |
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| DaemonFC | you get a book on how to use Fedora or Ubuntu from last year, and almost none of the GUI stuff even applies this year | Jan 04 13:35 |
| MinceR | Diablo-D3: that's a "feature" as much as jailbreaking is a "feature" | Jan 04 13:35 |
| cubezzz | except I use a whole continuum of OSes, which include older ones | Jan 04 13:35 |
| MinceR | wait, what? jobs had "genius"? where did he keep it? | Jan 04 13:35 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: /me shrugs. | Jan 04 13:36 |
| DaemonFC | most books that document any version of KDE 4 are still useful enough to mostly apply to the current release of KDE | Jan 04 13:36 |
| Diablo-D3 | and btw, yes, steve jobs had above normal intelligence | Jan 04 13:36 |
| Diablo-D3 | except I wish they'd quit saying he was an innovator | Jan 04 13:36 |
| Diablo-D3 | he wasnt | Jan 04 13:36 |
| cubezzz | oh I agree he was a good marketer | Jan 04 13:36 |
| Diablo-D3 | cubezzz: he was a salesman | Jan 04 13:36 |
| Diablo-D3 | a very good one at that | Jan 04 13:36 |
| Diablo-D3 | but thats not what I mean | Jan 04 13:36 |
| Diablo-D3 | he saw a good idea, and used it | Jan 04 13:36 |
| MinceR | he was an effective salesman, but i don't get why people worship him for that, even people who realize that he was only about sales | Jan 04 13:37 |
| Diablo-D3 | he was extremely good at sifting ideas, good from the bad | Jan 04 13:37 |
| MinceR | nope | Jan 04 13:37 |
| Diablo-D3 | apple products have historically used very good ideas.... | Jan 04 13:37 |
| cubezzz | Diablo-D3, Dennis Ritchie should have got more of a mention | Jan 04 13:37 |
| Diablo-D3 | none of them originated at apple. | Jan 04 13:37 |
| MinceR | he sifted out the idea of cooling from the crApple III | Jan 04 13:37 |
| cubezzz | they died around the same time | Jan 04 13:37 |
| MinceR | it resulted in warped circuit boards | Jan 04 13:37 |
| Diablo-D3 | cubezzz: I agree | Jan 04 13:37 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: thats neither here nor there. | Jan 04 13:37 |
| MinceR | he sifted in the idea of "MagSafe", which resulted in burned cords | Jan 04 13:37 |
| MinceR | etc. | Jan 04 13:37 |
| Diablo-D3 | magsafe is still a good idea. | Jan 04 13:38 |
| Diablo-D3 | his problem is he keeps fucking over actual engineering disign | Jan 04 13:38 |
| Diablo-D3 | *design | Jan 04 13:38 |
| cubezzz | for laptops at least | Jan 04 13:38 |
| MinceR | it's a pointless gimmick with an immature implementation | Jan 04 13:38 |
| Diablo-D3 | which pisses me off | Jan 04 13:38 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: Picking up a $1500 computer and dropping it as the official recommendation for faulty products (no refunds!) is not the sign of a company I want to do business with | Jan 04 13:38 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: not immature, but Appled. | Jan 04 13:38 |
| DaemonFC | Apple III | Jan 04 13:38 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: indeed | Jan 04 13:38 |
| Diablo-D3 | Im the first in line to bitch Apple sucks | Jan 04 13:38 |
| Diablo-D3 | but I can actually back up my reasoning | Jan 04 13:38 |
| cubezzz | it's not good value for money | Jan 04 13:38 |
| Diablo-D3 | I think the computer industry can learn from Apple. | Jan 04 13:38 |
| cubezzz | Ipads cost what, $600+ ? | Jan 04 13:38 |
| MinceR | i just did back up my reasoning, but apparently you're failing reading comprehension again | Jan 04 13:39 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: If anyone ever lights a cigarette in the same room as an Apple product, they use it as an excuse to void the warranty | Jan 04 13:39 |
| XFaCE | Diablo-D3: hi! | Jan 04 13:39 |
| MinceR | Diablo-D3: yes, but i wish they won't | Jan 04 13:39 |
| *XFaCE gives voice to DaemonFC | Jan 04 13:39 | |
| Diablo-D3 | wait, if you're going to bitch about ipad prices, go back to what I said earlier | Jan 04 13:39 |
| MinceR | if they do, it will be a catastrophe. | Jan 04 13:39 |
| *XFaCE gives voice to Diablo-D3 | Jan 04 13:39 | |
| *XFaCE gives channel operator status to Diablo-D3 | Jan 04 13:39 | |
| *XFaCE gives voice to TechrightsBot-tr | Jan 04 13:39 | |
| *MinceR removes channel operator status from Diablo-D3 | Jan 04 13:39 | |
| Diablo-D3 | apple is a failure because they refuse to lower their prices | Jan 04 13:39 |
| cubezzz | ok, agree | Jan 04 13:39 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: A lot of Apple products turn yellow by themselves over time | Jan 04 13:39 |
| Diablo-D3 | there is at least three premium android lines, asus's, toshiba's, and samsung's, that do 10" tablets | Jan 04 13:40 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] it is simple. restrictions on Freedom are unethical unless proven otherwise. Now: prove copyright restrictions are ethical. | Jan 04 13:40 | |
| MinceR | a lot of IT products do, but most people don't care | Jan 04 13:40 |
| Diablo-D3 | identical or better parts, cheapest is toshiba thrive's base model | Jan 04 13:40 |
| Diablo-D3 | $375 | Jan 04 13:40 |
| *XFaCE gives channel operator status to Diablo-D3 | Jan 04 13:40 | |
| *XFaCE gives channel operator status to Diablo-D3 | Jan 04 13:40 | |
| *XFaCE gives channel operator status to Diablo-D3 | Jan 04 13:40 | |
| *XFaCE gives channel operator status to Diablo-D3 | Jan 04 13:40 | |
| *XFaCE gives voice to Diablo-D3 | Jan 04 13:40 | |
| Diablo-D3 | cheapest ipad 2's base model is $600 | Jan 04 13:40 |
| DaemonFC | right, but Apple claims you've been smoking near it if that happens | Jan 04 13:40 |
| MinceR | XFaCE: having fun already? | Jan 04 13:40 |
| Diablo-D3 | and I view them as equiv | Jan 04 13:40 |
| DaemonFC | even when their case just yellowed by itself | Jan 04 13:40 |
| *Diablo-D3 quotes from earlier | Jan 04 13:40 | |
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| *XFaCE gives voice to Diablo-D3 | Jan 04 13:40 | |
| cubezzz | no UV stabilizer in the plastic then | Jan 04 13:40 |
| *XFaCE gives voice to brendyn | Jan 04 13:41 | |
| cubezzz | common problem | Jan 04 13:41 |
| Diablo-D3 | eh fuck it, cnat find it in my log | Jan 04 13:41 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: Having weird delay problems | Jan 04 13:41 |
| Diablo-D3 | but basically, I think apple is dying | Jan 04 13:41 |
| cubezzz | but for $600 it should have the best plastic money can buy :) | Jan 04 13:41 |
| Diablo-D3 | cubezzz: thats the thing | Jan 04 13:41 |
| Diablo-D3 | apple even sued samsung for the galaxy tab 10 | Jan 04 13:41 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: The bottom wasn't working, so the logical conclusion was to press it 20 more times :D | Jan 04 13:41 |
| XFaCE | *button | Jan 04 13:41 |
| DaemonFC | my $300 Android tablet can do more than the $600 model of ipad | Jan 04 13:41 |
| Diablo-D3 | and you know what, I agree with apple, its probably the best design currently available | Jan 04 13:41 |
| DaemonFC | so I think I got a good deal | Jan 04 13:42 |
| Diablo-D3 | and EVERYONE is using it | Jan 04 13:42 |
| Diablo-D3 | not just samsung | Jan 04 13:42 |
| Diablo-D3 | look at the best tablets, they all follow that design one way or another | Jan 04 13:42 |
| Diablo-D3 | (and yes, apple didnt originate it, it was, too, Jobsed) | Jan 04 13:42 |
| DaemonFC | and ipad doesn't let me use other app stores | Jan 04 13:42 |
| DaemonFC | I have three app stores installed on my tablet | Jan 04 13:42 |
| Diablo-D3 | its just that if I ran Apple, prices wouldnt be so goddamned high | Jan 04 13:42 |
| cubezzz | well I don't like tablets anyway | Jan 04 13:42 |
| DaemonFC | and on top of that, I can install apps from apk files myself | Jan 04 13:42 |
| XFaCE | Diablo-D3: No different than cars adapting the cabforward design *pioneered* (not invented) by Chrysler in the early 90s | Jan 04 13:42 |
| DaemonFC | nothing like that on Apple | Jan 04 13:43 |
| Diablo-D3 | XFaCE: /me shrugs | Jan 04 13:43 |
| Diablo-D3 | every industry does it | Jan 04 13:43 |
| Diablo-D3 | which is fine | Jan 04 13:43 |
| XFaCE | Diablo-D3: In terms of similar design | Jan 04 13:43 |
| Diablo-D3 | good ideas should flourish | Jan 04 13:43 |
| XFaCE | Diablo-D3: Exactly my point | Jan 04 13:43 |
| DaemonFC | Apple uses their app store lockin to control what the user can install and run | Jan 04 13:43 |
| cubezzz | coke/pepsi :) | Jan 04 13:43 |
| Diablo-D3 | I just hate when Apple takes good ideas, and then takes away the power of the engineers | Jan 04 13:43 |
| DaemonFC | and to jack up prices on the user and developers | Jan 04 13:43 |
| XFaCE | Diablo-D3: Woz | Jan 04 13:43 |
| Diablo-D3 | like, apple has historically had fucked power cords on laptops | Jan 04 13:43 |
| DaemonFC | because there's no choice where you get apps from | Jan 04 13:43 |
| Diablo-D3 | even before magwhatever | Jan 04 13:43 |
| cubezzz | the Apple II wasn't a bad computer | Jan 04 13:43 |
| Diablo-D3 | you know why? | Jan 04 13:43 |
| XFaCE | Diablo-D3: Doing it since the 80s | Jan 04 13:43 |
| cubezzz | but it was much more expensive than a c64 | Jan 04 13:44 |
| cubezzz | same old | Jan 04 13:44 |
| XFaCE | Diablo-D3: It wasn't restricted? | Jan 04 13:44 |
| XFaCE | Diablo-D3: It was designed by Woz and had heavy engineer influence? | Jan 04 13:44 |
| DaemonFC | The APPLE II booted up into a BASIC interpreter | Jan 04 13:44 |
| DaemonFC | it was comparable to a C64, but like twice as expensive | Jan 04 13:44 |
| Diablo-D3 | steve jobs hates low gauge (== thicker) wiring, and he also hates those little plastic things after the plug that relieve stress | Jan 04 13:44 |
| DaemonFC | and the C64 could output to a television set | Jan 04 13:44 |
| Diablo-D3 | so the wiring, internally, eventually is busted | Jan 04 13:45 |
| cubezzz | DaemonFC, it had decent expansion slots | Jan 04 13:45 |
| cubezzz | c64 didn't have that | Jan 04 13:45 |
| DaemonFC | Apple IIs only let you use an Apple monitor | Jan 04 13:45 |
| cubezzz | but one paid a lot for it | Jan 04 13:45 |
| XFaCE | Diablo-D3: He also hates fans | Jan 04 13:45 |
| Diablo-D3 | the RCA jack ones that had the 3.5mm jack center pins, that the powerbooks used? | Jan 04 13:45 |
| Diablo-D3 | great design | Jan 04 13:45 |
| XFaCE | *hated | Jan 04 13:45 |
| Diablo-D3 | it really is | Jan 04 13:45 |
| Diablo-D3 | outside was a nice EM shield/ground | Jan 04 13:45 |
| Diablo-D3 | inside was a recognized easy to produce part that worked well | Jan 04 13:45 |
| Diablo-D3 | but guess what he did? | Jan 04 13:45 |
| Diablo-D3 | he wittled it down | Jan 04 13:46 |
| Diablo-D3 | he kept sending it back "too big" "too bulky" etc etc | Jan 04 13:46 |
| Diablo-D3 | an entire series of powerbooks ended up with DC in boards that would fry due to use | Jan 04 13:46 |
| Diablo-D3 | but the actual idea underneath? it was great. | Jan 04 13:46 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] Not after they publish it, no. They can keep it to themselves though and prevent any other person from doing anything with it. | Jan 04 13:46 | |
| XFaCE | Diablo-D3: Totally off-topic, but remember the terrible design decisions during 90s? | Jan 04 13:46 |
| Diablo-D3 | XFaCE: mostly. | Jan 04 13:46 |
| cubezzz | Aesthetics over functionality | Jan 04 13:46 |
| Diablo-D3 | cubezzz: EXACTLY | Jan 04 13:46 |
| XFaCE | Especially during the Michael Spindler era | Jan 04 13:46 |
| Diablo-D3 | I am a firm believer in that functionality is its own aesthetic | Jan 04 13:47 |
| Diablo-D3 | function over form | Jan 04 13:47 |
| XFaCE | Diablo-D3: The ikea philosphy | Jan 04 13:47 |
| XFaCE | sort of | Jan 04 13:47 |
| Diablo-D3 | XFaCE: in a way, yes | Jan 04 13:47 |
| Diablo-D3 | like, I have a pitch black square case sitting next to me | Jan 04 13:47 |
| Diablo-D3 | expesnive, elegant, the opposite spectrum of apple. | Jan 04 13:47 |
| MinceR | XFaCE: ic | Jan 04 13:47 |
| Diablo-D3 | (its an antec p180b, the original model, not the new ugly ones) | Jan 04 13:48 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: Don't worry, not trying to flood :P | Jan 04 13:48 |
| cubezzz | everything is black now, it used to be all white | Jan 04 13:48 |
| cubezzz | keyboards, cases, monitors... | Jan 04 13:48 |
| Diablo-D3 | cubezzz: "beige" which includes white, light grey, etc | Jan 04 13:48 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] As the new year starts has anyone given thought to a FLOSS religion. If you do not like it you can fork it...... Yes too late. | Jan 04 13:48 | |
| cubezzz | all my old stuff is white :) | Jan 04 13:48 |
| Diablo-D3 | apple grey was never a beige | Jan 04 13:48 |
| Diablo-D3 | always on the cold side of the spectrum instead of the warm | Jan 04 13:48 |
| cubezzz | Diablo-D3, amiga 500, it's monitor | Jan 04 13:48 |
| XFaCE | Diablo-D3: Apple did have beige until Snow White | Jan 04 13:48 |
| cubezzz | well, at least close to white | Jan 04 13:48 |
| Diablo-D3 | XFaCE: just that one | Jan 04 13:48 |
| cubezzz | the bezel is greyish | Jan 04 13:48 |
| Diablo-D3 | but what Im saying is | Jan 04 13:49 |
| Diablo-D3 | you know why I like this black box? | Jan 04 13:49 |
| Diablo-D3 | no external detail. | Jan 04 13:49 |
| DaemonFC | thanks to Crapple, an entire generation has early onset hearing loss | Jan 04 13:49 |
| DaemonFC | thanks to making those in ear headphones popular | Jan 04 13:49 |
| Diablo-D3 | 3 pitch black brushed metal panels, flat matte black plastic to hold it together | Jan 04 13:49 |
| Diablo-D3 | no front, since its behind the front door | Jan 04 13:49 |
| Diablo-D3 | the sides and front door has no air vents | Jan 04 13:49 |
| Diablo-D3 | (the front air vents for the front fan suck it from behind the door using air vents) | Jan 04 13:50 |
| Diablo-D3 | its very elegant and minimal | Jan 04 13:50 |
| Diablo-D3 | it looks like the monolith from 2001. | Jan 04 13:50 |
| DaemonFC | those things are so dangerous, they should be illegal | Jan 04 13:50 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC: : I can't stand ear buds | Jan 04 13:50 |
| DaemonFC | they're uncomfortable even at a reasonable volume | Jan 04 13:50 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC: I'm actually using Koss Portapro headphones | Jan 04 13:50 |
| XFaCE | That 80s design that won't die | Jan 04 13:50 |
| XFaCE | :) | Jan 04 13:50 |
| XFaCE | They're awesome! | Jan 04 13:50 |
| cubezzz | you need to go 80's computer too | Jan 04 13:51 |
| XFaCE | bbl, bizowee | Jan 04 13:51 |
| cubezzz | :-) | Jan 04 13:51 |
| XFaCE | cubezzz: Already gone through that, never again | Jan 04 13:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] you *can* modify without source. and you can re-write and release your source. | Jan 04 13:51 | |
| DaemonFC | why does Spotify claim I'm offline? | Jan 04 13:53 |
| DaemonFC | I even tried logging out and back in | Jan 04 13:53 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] There may be trouble ahead but while there's moonlight and music and love and romance lets face the music and dance. #music | Jan 04 13:58 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @zotz dude, it's such a simple scenario, I can't believe you're making such a fuss to avoid acknowledging the difficulty | Jan 04 14:00 | |
| DaemonFC | apparently Spotify is down | Jan 04 14:00 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @zotz two people are free to eat the last cookie. how does your "freedom by default" policy apply? | Jan 04 14:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Is your organization fit for heretics? asks @pollylabarre | red.ht/z6nyIf #hackmanagement #culture | Jan 04 14:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Missionary Church of #Kopimism is now an official religion in #Sweden - http://bit.ly/zk6Ucu can't wait for US to be proselytised | Jan 04 14:03 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] !fsfe 's Jan Newsletter out: 6000 mines, 80 billion for R&D, !fs makes German Parliament more secure http://l.fsfe.org/nl1201 !gnu | Jan 04 14:05 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fsfe/@fsfe] RT @kirschner Nice online comic about #distributed #social networks http://ur1.ca/6iqkb !fs !gnu !fsfe #socialswarm #faceboogle | Jan 04 14:06 | |
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| iophk | http://kopimistsamfundet.se/blog/2012/01/04/det-missionerande-kopimistsamfundet-erkanns-av-svenska-staten/ | Jan 04 14:07 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fsfe/@fsfe] RT @kirschner !fsfe 's Jan Newsletter out: 6000 mines, 80 billion for R&D, !fs makes German Parliament more secure http://l.fsfe.org/nl1 ... | Jan 04 14:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] How #Spain’s version of #SOPA is setting the web on fire - http://bit.ly/xbyUUU useful background to the coming fight #sinde | Jan 04 14:08 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] It Don't Mean a Thing (If It Ain't Got That Swing) | Jan 04 14:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Green power from the Sahara? - http://bit.ly/w7CLIc can't we just get on & do this, please? #energy | Jan 04 14:11 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Listening to Chic the only reasonable argument I have heard for disco. | Jan 04 14:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Good Ministerial Salary Review Report. I like it. - http://ur1.ca/787op #fb | Jan 04 14:16 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Good Salary Review Report « life one degree north, one-o-three degrees east .::. Size~: 50.56 KB | Jan 04 14:16 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] أنا ادعم @wikileaks وأطلب من @twitter القيام بتعديل سياسة الإحتفاظ بالبيانات والسجلات لحماية خصوصيتي وحياتي الخاصة #NOLOGS | Jan 04 14:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The feedback economy - http://oreil.ly/A2C23d some intriguing perspectives | Jan 04 14:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Beyond The Internet Of Things Towards A Sensor #Commons - http://bit.ly/wHOu7F #opensource, of course | Jan 04 14:21 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The feedback economy - O'Reilly Radar .::. Size~: 72.36 KB | Jan 04 14:21 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] US Survey Shows #Piracy Common and Accepted - http://bit.ly/An1MiV the law is an ass | Jan 04 14:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Missing portion of Obama Hope poster revealed - http://bit.ly/x4h0OB ha! | Jan 04 14:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Report: #Android Market reaches 400,000 apps, 100,000 active developers - http://tnw.co/AinDwt big numbers; most apps still rubbish | Jan 04 14:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The #Apache Software Foundation Announces Apache #Hadoop v1.0 - http://bit.ly/x4kiv7 trumpet it abroad #opensource | Jan 04 14:23 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Hack and dump of Indonesia's Ministry of Trade in retaliation for human rights abuses in West Papua http://t.co/2PfX0p1I #opWestPapua | Jan 04 14:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Open document standards mandatory in #Hungary government - http://bit.ly/x11S6B schools moving too #openstandards | Jan 04 14:31 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] 4Shared Sued To Reveal Identify of Infringing Users - http://bit.ly/w8jOmy interesting case | Jan 04 14:35 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: 4Shared Sued To Reveal Identify of Infringing Users | TorrentFreak .::. Size~: 27.36 KB | Jan 04 14:35 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #China Wins #Afghan Oil Contract - http://bit.ly/AAaUaK remind me again why the West is sending its soldiers to die there... #suckers | Jan 04 14:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Microsoft stop providing recovery CDs, #Comet HELP customers by making copies, Microsoft then sue Comet for infringement | Jan 04 14:40 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: China Wins Afghan Oil Contract | Foreign Policy Blogs .::. Size~: 47.13 KB | Jan 04 14:40 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Programmers and system admins control every intelligence agency and bank. What happens when they awake and unite? | Jan 04 14:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] apparently #Comet (being the greedy bastards that they are) SOLD those CDs at cost, which undermines their case of "for the customer" | Jan 04 14:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Walter Bender on the Early Days of Sugar - http://bit.ly/y281m3 already ancient history #olpc #opensource #education | Jan 04 14:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] only heard that breaking news summary on #5live - I guess the tech news will pick it up and provide us with links | Jan 04 14:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] if I understand this, you buy a Windows PC from #Comet, you get NO install CD, NO recovery CD, NOTHING to restore Windows | Jan 04 14:43 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] in addition, #Windows is not listed as a chargeable item, or an optional item | Jan 04 14:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Escolas municipais de São Paulo vão ganhar Wi-Fi e tablets com #Android em 2012 - http://bit.ly/ym6hDA 8000 initially #brazil | Jan 04 14:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @lcafiero Larry the Free Software Guy says, "What's in a name?" A lot. Developers, please be more careful in naming projects http://w ... | Jan 04 14:45 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @glynmoody Open document standards mandatory in #Hungary government - http://bit.ly/x11S6B schools moving too #openstandards | Jan 04 14:46 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Open document standards mandatory in Hungary government | Joinup .::. Size~: 25.46 KB | Jan 04 14:46 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jrepin/@jrepin] RT @kirschner !fsfe 's Jan Newsletter out: 6000 mines, 80 billion for R&D, !fs makes German Parliament more secure http://l.fsfe.org/nl1 ... | Jan 04 14:48 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] apply the simple test from my blog post to the situation and tell me your answer. | Jan 04 14:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] if they are indeed both free to eat it, the first one who gets it eats it and the problem is solved right? | Jan 04 14:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] Just posted Preview v2 of ÜBERGEEK http://ur1.ca/788dj #alanturingyear #freemusic mad with #freesoftware Not the final version, needs work | Jan 04 14:56 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] mad == made with #freesoftware I'm NOT "Hadron Quark" ;-) | Jan 04 15:00 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Apache Hadoop 1.0 released http://ur1.ca/788lr | Jan 04 15:05 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Apache Hadoop 1.0 released [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 7.88 KB | Jan 04 15:05 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Hadoop version 1.0 out now, featuring Kerboros, a REST API, and database tables through HBase (CW): http://bit.ly/AthIRQ | Jan 04 15:15 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Hadoop solidified for production duty - Computerworld .::. Size~: 132.9 KB | Jan 04 15:15 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I am writing a blog post. | Jan 04 15:18 |
| DaemonFC | About how AT&T and other companies that are charging for data overages are really just exploiting the bogus traffic that a typical Windows malware program generates | Jan 04 15:19 |
| DaemonFC | and I am comparing it to their cooperation with Windows "dialer" scammers and 1-900 "psychic" networks in the 1990s | Jan 04 15:19 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] damn, only in the UK do you get rain that looks insubstantial out of the window, yet soaks you to the bone with a short walk in it | Jan 04 15:20 | |
| DaemonFC | I insist that this is just their latest scheme to pack your bill with unwanted charges, and to ram it in on you all at once in the form of an internet bill that is $60, $70, $80 or more in overage fees | Jan 04 15:20 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Microsoft to sue Comet over 'fake' Windows discs http://gu.com/p/34ej4 | Jan 04 15:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] NGINX edges out Microsoft IIS to become the 2nd most widely used server software on the net (Netcraft, Jan report): http://bit.ly/x4k8Z5 | Jan 04 15:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Now I'm a guide for the CIA Hooray for the USA! Baby,baby,make me loco Baby,baby,make me mambo. Sent to spy on a cuban talent show | Jan 04 15:21 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Microsoft to sue Comet over 'fake' Windows discs | Technology | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 96.82 KB | Jan 04 15:21 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] The internet is the best place for dissent to start http://gu.com/p/34e7a | Jan 04 15:23 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The internet is the best place for dissent to start | Technology | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 214.23 KB | Jan 04 15:23 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Reddit Has Gone Mad with Power (Gawker): http://gaw.kr/xtvbKI | Jan 04 15:35 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Reddit Has Gone Mad with Power .::. Size~: 84.22 KB | Jan 04 15:35 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @lwnnet Apache Hadoop 1.0 released http://ur1.ca/788lr | Jan 04 15:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Put my jack in the wrong hole it always leads to tears :-) | Jan 04 15:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Bubbles aren't round, they are polygonish (NPR): http://n.pr/x9c8Qp (via @topologyfact) | Jan 04 15:38 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Nice. Apache and nginx are #1 and #2 in global webserver share! MS-IIS 3rd and dropping - http://ur1.ca/776hr | Jan 04 15:41 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: January 2012 Web Server Survey | Netcraft .::. Size~: 33.03 KB | Jan 04 15:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @joabj damn I expected an interesting scandal story involving #MichaelJackson's chimp #Bubbles | Jan 04 15:43 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fsf/@fsf] #ThankGNU for Huisking Foundation, Harold J. Wolfe, Michael J. Booth http://ur1.ca/6v57o Join the !FSF today: http://fsf.org/jfb !gnu !lp | Jan 04 15:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fsf/@fsf] #ThankGNU for Wen J. Chen, Austin Hook, Ashley Fryer, Kyle Wiens -- http://ur1.ca/6v57o Join the !FSF today: http://fsf.org/jfb !gnu !lp | Jan 04 15:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fsf/@fsf] #ThankGNU for Denis López, Lawrence Lessig, Dmitry Sagalovskiy -- http://ur1.ca/6v57o Join the !FSF today: http://fsf.org/jfb !gnu !lp | Jan 04 15:46 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Dear Internet: It's No Longer OK to Not Know How Congress Works http://goo.gl/66icl | Jan 04 15:48 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Information Diet | Dear Internet: It's No Longer OK to Not Know How Congress Works .::. Size~: 21.92 KB | Jan 04 15:48 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Punjab drops Bt cotton idea - http://bit.ly/wE0cLL bit of a blow for #monsanto #india #gm | Jan 04 15:55 | |
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| *schestowitz removes channel operator status from Diablo-D3 | Jan 04 15:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @aurele: @lxoliva Pushing the 3.1.7.deb !linuxlibre to #fsfla repo and #fsc website Have fun and thanks for your works on the source code | Jan 04 15:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @zotz the situation is solved, but I still don't see how your policy of "freedom by default" applies to this case | Jan 04 16:00 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Don't beat on the brat, don't beat on the brat, don't beat on the brat with a baseball bat. | Jan 04 16:00 | |
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| DaemonFC | Spotify managed to crash my tablet | Jan 04 16:02 |
| DaemonFC | that app has many bugs | Jan 04 16:02 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Forget $100 million for Windows Phone, Microsoft planning twice that in US alone - http://tnw.co/AtTYbc course: this is their last chance | Jan 04 16:11 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @glynmoody Forget $100 million for Windows Phone, Microsoft planning twice that in US alone - http://tnw.co/AtTYbc course: this is th ... | Jan 04 16:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @sankarshan Seriously, for all the goodness of applications and SaaS requiring translations, why not make a huge push to do good MT a ... | Jan 04 16:13 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Chrome Add-on Tells You When You're Browsing A Site That Supports #SOPA - http://onforb.es/xI5dua what fun | Jan 04 16:15 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Chrome Add-on Tells You When You're Browsing A Site That Supports SOPA - Forbes .::. Size~: 92.21 KB | Jan 04 16:15 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] "I know you'd be better with an #iPhone or #Android, but I get a kickback if you buy Windows, so I recommend #WP7 to you" | Jan 04 16:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @glynmoody: #Chrome Add-on Tells You When You're Browsing A Site That Supports #SOPA - http://onforb.es/xI5dua what fun | Jan 04 16:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] lol! "Butter and Salt Candy. I am sorry I cannot tell this deliciousness in a single word" #onlyinjapan http://ur1.ca/78a8k | Jan 04 16:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Juan Arvizu "Vereda Tropical" http://ur1.ca/78a8n #music #arvizu #mexico | Jan 04 16:18 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @Fontana Me too mine is Friends loved watching it when I was 15. | Jan 04 16:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Open document standards mandatory in Hungary government http://ur1.ca/785z4 #egovt #politics #opendocument #odf #europe #hungary #office | Jan 04 16:21 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @Fontana Repeats obviously. | Jan 04 16:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] the #NoSOPA #Chrome plugin works a treat, I installed it after I heard about it, tested it on #Sony | Jan 04 16:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] #2012: This is what Romney, Santorum, Newt, and Obama actually believe: http://identi.ca/url/63832055 #RonPaul | Jan 04 16:25 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @Fontana standards have been declining since the big bang and I do not mean the comedy show. | Jan 04 16:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Last Consumer Electronics Show (CES) for Microsoft, First for Canonical http://is.gd/Jin1IZ http://is.gd/TJmIyP #ces #linux | Jan 04 16:33 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schaiba FreeBSD 9 is just around the corner! !BSD | Jan 04 16:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] My biggest gripe with #GNOME 3.x at this point is inadvertent overview display | Jan 04 16:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] ♻ @grmpyoldman: Einladung des Bundesverwaltungsamts zum Review des !FS Migrationsleitfadens http://ur1.ca/78ac9 !FSFE | Jan 04 16:41 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] LinuxCon 2011 Europe keynote videos now available http://ur1.ca/78axa #linuxcon | Jan 04 16:43 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] One month to apply for the 2012 Google Policy Fellowship with CC (or other great orgs) - http://goo.gl/7Mw5F | Jan 04 16:45 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] LibreCAD, a 2D CAD drawing tool has reached version 1.0 http://ur1.ca/78azy #software #gnu #linux #cad #design | Jan 04 16:46 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] I think it is absurd - like the rest of copyright | Jan 04 16:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] I think there are dangers there; best saved for special occasions like SOPA | Jan 04 16:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] The amount of data being generated globally increases by 40 percent a year (NYT on Big Data): http://nyti.ms/yPdQ9Q | Jan 04 16:50 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] “Job-Killing” EPA Regulations for Chesapeake Bay Will Create 35 Times as Many Jobs as Keystone XL Pipeline - http://bit.ly/w4Muft ah, facts | Jan 04 16:53 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Manifestul Regal http://ur1.ca/78b7l #romania #europe #monarchy #royal #politics | Jan 04 16:55 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] JavaFX 2.0 is a set of Java libraries and APIs for creating rich clients purely in Java (InfoWorld, Oct): http://bit.ly/y6e1NI | Jan 04 16:56 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Of #OpenSource and the European Commission - http://bit.ly/x4aLBN where does the latter stand on the former? #eu | Jan 04 17:00 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Filmul Televiziunii naționale “Regele Mihai I al României” http://ur1.ca/78bgt #romania #monarchy #royal #europe #politics | Jan 04 17:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] if it's v specific fine; but otherwise it just becomes a kind of blacklist with all the dangers of those | Jan 04 17:03 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] 13-Year Software Veteran Learns New Tricks with Embedded Linux Course bit.ly/y1Rh7c #linux | Jan 04 17:05 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @glynmoody #Chrome Add-on Tells You When You're Browsing A Site That Supports #SOPA - http://onforb.es/xI5dua what fun | Jan 04 17:11 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Chrome Add-on Tells You When You're Browsing A Site That Supports SOPA - Forbes .::. Size~: 92.09 KB | Jan 04 17:11 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] indeed | Jan 04 17:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] OK, but the danger is that it reinforces your mindset too much... | Jan 04 17:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Kindle Fire's Silk browser can be ported to other Android devices (Electronista): http://bit.ly/z6jkpH | Jan 04 17:16 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] that's what I mean: if it's a company and a specific policy; dangerous if generalised | Jan 04 17:31 | |
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| DaemonFC | clipping coupons | Jan 04 17:43 |
| DaemonFC | heh | Jan 04 17:43 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @idesdebruyne dat ze dan eerst eens iets doen aan hun licentie voor hergebruik ;) #mogenzemealtijdovercontacteren | Jan 04 17:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @Tuinslak @Choisissez in Gent? :O | Jan 04 17:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @marcvandaele @BartHanssens alles ivm #opendata in België gebeurt overigens vraaggedreven | Jan 04 17:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @poggs 20:00 is great! My username is the same as on twitter | Jan 04 17:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @marcvandaele gewoon even vragen aan @BartHanssens - zou ook snel in orde moeten komen wellicht. | Jan 04 17:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @t1mdp het was maar om te lachen hee | Jan 04 17:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @marcvandaele @BartHanssens als er niet wordt gevraagd zal er ook niets gebeuren. Wie weet gaat het plo http://ur1. ... | Jan 04 17:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @t1mdp op een wat? | Jan 04 17:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @marcvandaele: Nederlandse Kadaster geeft gigabytes aan data vrij. Zou dat in België stilaan ook ni http://ur1.c ... | Jan 04 17:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @DirDigEng: RT @LiberTIC Le portail #opendata du Chili est en ligne http://t.co/8GiCKE4H | Jan 04 17:56 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @poggs - can we have a short conf call this evening on the open transport working group? | Jan 04 17:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @epsiplatform: EC Data Portal project awarded to Belgian semweb company Tenforce and subcontractors. http://ur1. ... | Jan 04 17:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @Choisissez beste designers enzo :) /cc @joke | Jan 04 17:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @joke - @denniskestelle @xavez en @choisissez #logisch | Jan 04 17:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @pabortega uuuuuuuuuuuyyy guachoooon! Qué bien qué estás en twitter! | Jan 04 17:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @VOKA_SofieStael http://t.co/gccW3FMN :) #iRail | Jan 04 17:58 | |
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| scientes | geeze ubuntu install nvidia automatically now if you select "third-party software" on the install screen | Jan 04 18:04 |
| scientes | nouveau is fine if you arn't doing a bunch of 3d stuff..... maybe it should at least wait until you install some real 3d apps | Jan 04 18:05 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] alas, no: I'm making this stuff up as I go along, as you can probably tell... | Jan 04 18:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Filesharing Now an official religion in #Sweden - Slashdot - #pirateparty http://goo.gl/KlHZs | Jan 04 18:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] FreeDOS 1.1 Released - http://bit.ly/yeizoI slow but sure... | Jan 04 18:06 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: I urge the #Hungary authorities to implement the nat court ruling insisting media law ch http://p.ost.im/p/e55e3f | Jan 04 18:33 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] I don't see why it doesn't, what law is needed to restrict someone's freedom in this case? | Jan 04 18:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @zotz now consider the similar case of homesteading e.g. the US far west: A and B are free to take possession of a piece of land | Jan 04 18:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Wednesday's security updates http://ur1.ca/78eq3 | Jan 04 18:58 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Today I paid my final debt. I do not owe anything to whatever bank anymore. Feels good. #debtfree | Jan 04 19:00 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Amazon's Silk Browser hacked to work with Cyanogenmod from !Android Central by Richard Devine http://ow.ly/8if2g | Jan 04 19:03 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] !librefm !gnu !lp -- Help us move Libre.fm away from #GoDaddy -- we need $150. http://libre.fm/donate.html | Jan 04 19:05 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] RT @cure I will sponsor you for $28/year on this registration and will also contribute $28 toward the transfer. #GoDaddy can go to hell. | Jan 04 19:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] Thank you :) | Jan 04 19:13 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] Building a better Suntrap > http://nd.gd/06t #solar #Renewable energy /cc @nj3ma @kelzOKO @DennisMungai @fredmanglis @yasena | Jan 04 19:15 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @stav: !onthisdate in 2004, Spirit, a !NASA Mars rover, landed successfully on Mars http://ur1.ca/78ewg !space | Jan 04 19:16 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @silner: Amazon's Silk Browser hacked to work with Cyanogenmod from !Android Central by Richard Devine http://ow.ly/8if2g | Jan 04 19:18 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] .fm is expensive and unusual for transfers. http://identi.ca/url/63842807 has some details. | Jan 04 19:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] We really appreciate it. | Jan 04 19:21 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] [$] The logger meets linux-kernel http://ur1.ca/78fde | Jan 04 19:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Enthusiasm got the better of me, there was a bad link in my last dent. Sorry, fixing now. | Jan 04 19:25 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Praise the Ctrl-V! #Kopimism officially a religion in SWeden! ur1.ca/78ffp /cc @telecomix :D !atheism #fixed | Jan 04 19:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Creative Commons in two of the Top 10 Stories in Education in 2011 at the Huffington Post: http://huff.to/snlO4x #OER | Jan 04 19:26 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Und somit ist #Wulff ab sofort der PP - der Pattex Präsident. Mal schauen wie lange der Kleber hält. | Jan 04 19:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is lxoliva from identi.ca with 167 dents! | Jan 04 19:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Patryczek dziękuje hojnym Internautom za rączkę i nóżkę! http://ur1.ca/78g99 | Jan 04 19:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[xface/@xface] RT @ mgeist: TekSavvy cable = 24 Mbps, 300 GB cap for $47; no cap for $62. Rogers cable = 24 Mbps, 100 GB cap for $60 (1/2 off for 6 months) | Jan 04 19:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[xface/@xface] RT @ mgeist: RT @sniderm: TekSavvy announces billing changes in response to #CRTC #UBB decision last year http://t.co/Eet9gcKz | Jan 04 19:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[xface/@xface] RT @ mgeist: Fake Counterfeit Data: Fuelling SOPA debate and used by Canadian lobby groups to promote new border rules http://t.co/ITlu3bKf | Jan 04 19:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[xface/@xface] RT @ mgeist: TekSavvy changes includes unlimited off-peak use, the kind of differentiation CRTC decision promotes http://t.co/Gpu8eOZL | Jan 04 19:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[xface/@xface] RT @ mgeist: .@catoinstitute has an excellent post that debunks the SOPA counterfeiting claims http://t.co/VQJUvWEk | Jan 04 19:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[xface/@xface] RT @ mgeist: RT @Andrew_Rens: New blog post: Copyright Terms around the World http://t.co/mXId5wwO | Jan 04 19:58 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[xface/@xface] RT @ mgeist: Challenging Counterfeit Counterfeiting Data: how fake SOPA counterfeit data has also been used in Canada http://t.co/ITlu3bKf | Jan 04 20:00 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] CC and the 3D Printing Community http://ur1.ca/78ggg | Jan 04 20:06 | |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1132060 "I tried a pear install for a couple of days. Seemed reasonably quick and worked OK using Ubuntu links for codecs etc. Felt quite apple like, in an unrefined way." | Jan 04 20:12 |
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| MinceR | is there any other way to feel apple-like? :> | Jan 04 20:16 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] yes, thanks - it is correct alas - I just wasn't up to speed then on the intricacies of US law... | Jan 04 20:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] Futurist Prediction – The CPU Registry – And You Thought the Long Gun Registry Was Bad… http://bit.ly/uPxSMz #cdnpoli #copyright | Jan 04 20:21 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] German Court Decisions Make Everyday Use Of The Internet Increasingly Risky There - http://bit.ly/wMQrY5 verrückt #de | Jan 04 20:31 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] PR industry unhappy with how little Wikipedia rules allow corporations to edit their own entries (Phil Gomes): http://bit.ly/wODxY2 | Jan 04 20:36 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @joabj rofl yeah funny he complains about "bad actors" - the entire PR industry are bad actors / reputation washers / bullshitters | Jan 04 20:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] » Romney Vs Paul: Experts Agree GOP Contest Now A Two Horse Race Alex Jones' Infowars - #usa #ronpaul http://goo.gl/8JC43 | Jan 04 20:45 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Judge not convinced by #Apple's trade secrets argument, unseals docs http://goo.gl/7mizK #PyStar | Jan 04 20:48 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Copying Is Not Theft - Official Version - YouTube - #copyright http://ur1.ca/78hsg | Jan 04 20:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Sweet irony: #Righthaven sued by company it used to sue others http://goo.gl/Nh8Qt | Jan 04 20:50 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] REAL #SOPA In America ! 100% Proof?! Shocking Sopa Truth America Real - YouTube - great video http://ur1.ca/78hx4 | Jan 04 20:55 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !tzag good afternoon !identiverse | Jan 04 20:56 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Kdenlive Part 6: Workflow and Conclusion by Seth Kenlon | http://red.ht/xI074u #video #linux #kde | Jan 04 21:01 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] I'd go along with that for most days, but tonight I'm getting together with friends for #postchristmaschristmas @ http://www.eggrollking.ca/ | Jan 04 21:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] what was the comment? | Jan 04 21:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] actually, I've seen it now...well, side comments are often thus | Jan 04 21:10 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] That's nice, @speeddefrost I'll share the link with my old friend Bruce who refused to listen to any song shorter than 8 minutes :) | Jan 04 21:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 2012 Plan for #Techrights http://ur1.ca/78ijc #novell #swpats | Jan 04 21:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Starting 2012 With Patent Extortion and Litigation http://ur1.ca/78ijf #swpats | Jan 04 21:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Royal Mail Should Migrate to GNU/Linux http://ur1.ca/78ijk | Jan 04 21:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Apple Sued by Its Sellers and Customers, Time to Switch to Android/Linux http://ur1.ca/78ijq | Jan 04 21:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] How we make it easy for online #scam artists | ITworld - #privacy http://goo.gl/pnPZV | Jan 04 21:15 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Na endlich. Vera Lengsfeld (CDU) verlangt #Wulff Rücktritt und Gauck als Nachfolger. | Jan 04 21:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Avião obrigado a regressar por causa de telemóvel esquecido >TVI24 - do departamento #burrice #fearmongering http://goo.gl/naHl0 | Jan 04 21:21 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] ICE Mistakenly Deports Missing Teen To Colombia - http://bit.ly/wiCw5Y yikes | Jan 04 21:25 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] sweet dreams @expatpaul !tzaf | Jan 04 21:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] PressTV - ' #Israel luring US into war with #Iran' - #usa #stateterrorism #wwiii http://goo.gl/pObvK | Jan 04 21:28 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] (sure you can... when you need to consult an index before selecting an emoticon it is too many :) | Jan 04 21:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Linux 2012: 5 Things to Watch http://ur1.ca/78j7i #linux | Jan 04 21:30 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] PressTV - 'US deploys troops in #Israel for #Iran war' - #usa #stateterrorism #mic #wwiii http://goo.gl/lumze | Jan 04 21:31 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] How Much Do You Linux? http://ur1.ca/78jdj #gnu #linux | Jan 04 21:35 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Nginx Passes Microsoft for Active Web Server Share http://goo.gl/w2tPC #linux #microsoft | Jan 04 21:38 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] you did not answer the previous q. why is there are problem with this land example? i think there is some fundamental miscommunication here. | Jan 04 21:46 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] A Cloak in Time Could Secure Networks (Discovery News): http://bit.ly/w9xJ61 (via @Disco_Tracy) | Jan 04 21:55 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RAP NEWS X - #Occupy2012 (feat. Noam Chomsky & Anonymous) - YouTube #funny http://ur1.ca/78k0y | Jan 04 21:56 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Nginx Passes Microsoft for Active Web Server Share - #floss http://goo.gl/w2tPC vi@schestowitz | Jan 04 22:01 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] The Globalization of War: The "Military Roadmap" to World War III - #mic #wwiii http://goo.gl/Zhihq | Jan 04 22:05 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Blender 3D Vídeo Aula: O conceito 3D e os Objetos Primitivos - YouTube - #flosstools #tips http://ur1.ca/78kbn | Jan 04 22:08 | |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1133757 "DUMB" | Jan 04 22:10 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Jan 04 22:10 |
| schestowitz | "'ve been watching that climb for the last couple of years. Incredible uptake. Apache has serious competition - witch is good. " https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1133808 | Jan 04 22:10 |
| schestowitz | "A good site to watch what happens in that regard: http://tinyurl.com/8uqg4k " | Jan 04 22:11 |
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| scientes | is there any good open source groupware out there? | Jan 04 22:22 |
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| MinceR | gn | Jan 04 22:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] eek, someone broke #YouTube - wisnae me | Jan 04 22:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] I had a bit of a #SteveVai moment and it just broke #TheAudienceIsListening - fuck #ChuckNorris STEVE VAI IS DOPE! | Jan 04 22:28 | |
| scientes | gn MinceR | Jan 04 22:28 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ooh it's back | Jan 04 22:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Seaside - +1 para a honestidade e eficiência desta loja...comprei online, preço já havia baixado, devolvem diferença http://www.seaside.pt | Jan 04 22:38 | |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1133688 "and the NHS !" | Jan 04 22:46 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1133688 "Upon taking inventory, I linux quite a lot nowadays and it is good to not be tied to just one OS." "100% linux." | Jan 04 22:46 |
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| schestowitz | "It's great seeing someone using personal buying decisions to support the manufacturers that choose Linux but what I value most about Linux is open standards so I think the Kindle Fire being tired to Amazon is completely against Free software principles. If Amazon had used standard Linux, I'd have bought a Kindle and probably chosen to buy from them but when they tried to tie me to their store they lost a customer. I bought a Kobo | Jan 04 22:46 |
| schestowitz | Touch instead. Free software and open standards." | Jan 04 22:46 |
| schestowitz | Linux came to mean something different from GNU/Linux, esp. due to Android. | Jan 04 22:47 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Inevitable: First security issues in #WordPress in over 6 months. Just updated my 9 WordPress sites. | Jan 04 22:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Passionate about global Internet policy? Apply to the Google Policy Fellowship and work with EFF this summer: https://eff.org/r.4Nk | Jan 04 22:55 | |
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| schestowitz | tessier: ping | Jan 04 22:57 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Brazil's Open Gov Data Portal licensed under CC BY; beta for now, full launch in April - http://goo.gl/id9H2 | Jan 04 23:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Apple Loses Bid to Keep Software Information Under Seal in Psystar Case - Bloomberg http://ow.ly/8hEC8 | Jan 04 23:06 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] The UK government asked Google for data on 1443 users in the first half of 2011, got ~ 2/3: http://wmk.me/xWgW3E | Jan 04 23:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Chrome extension lets you know if you are visiting a site that supports #Sopa http://ow.ly/8hFaw | Jan 04 23:28 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #techrights log #boycottnovell log #boycottnovell-social log #techbytes log Enter the IRC channels now | Jan 04 23:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] RT @ #techrights log #boycottnovell log #boycottnovell-social log #techbytes log Enter the IRC channels now | Jan 04 23:48 | |
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| DaemonFC | I need to finish that blog post I started earlier about ISP bandwidth caps being a sneaky way to bill the customer thousands of dollars for traffic generated by Windows malware | Jan 04 23:54 |
| DaemonFC | you crack open your bill and find hundreds of dollars worth of overages from all the bandwidth the malware was using to DDoS and spam with | Jan 04 23:54 |
| DaemonFC | it's tragic, because like so many things that go wrong with people's computers, people will blame "that damned computer" and not Microsoft | Jan 04 23:55 |
| DaemonFC | it's like the phone companies doing nothing to block dialer malware from calling foreign countries back in the 90s | Jan 04 23:57 |
| DaemonFC | then passing you the bill and smiling | Jan 04 23:57 |
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