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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] .. emergency. :) | Feb 06 00:00 | |
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| schestowitz | hey, ain't it DaemonGonzales | Feb 06 00:07 |
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| schestowitz | http://madhatter.ca/2012/02/05/outback-zacks-australian-animal-fire-victims-appeal/ | Feb 06 00:13 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Outback Zack’s Australian Animal Fire Victims Appeal | Wayne Borean .::. Size~: 23.39 KB | Feb 06 00:13 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Imperial measurments are specified in metric units (Even you USA) A standard football pitch is measured in metric by FIFA, Thanks Napolean. | Feb 06 00:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #CIA: Executive Action http://goo.gl/OZb3T #JFK | Feb 06 00:13 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: CIA: Executive Action .::. Size~: 61.93 KB | Feb 06 00:13 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] What does a tight end do? | Feb 06 00:15 | |
| schestowitz | He writes very well http://madhatter.ca/2012/02/05/outback-zacks-australian-animal-fire-victims-appeal/ | Feb 06 00:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Outback Zack’s Australian Animal Fire Victims Appeal | Wayne Borean .::. Size~: 23.39 KB | Feb 06 00:16 |
| schestowitz | engaging | Feb 06 00:16 |
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| schestowitz | Off course a week -> Of course a week | Feb 06 00:20 |
| schestowitz | some typos there | Feb 06 00:20 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Is #Obama's Peace Prize About To Be Confiscated? #Nobel Peace Prize Jury Under Investigation | ZeroHedge http://goo.gl/HlDL6 | Feb 06 00:25 | |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1238508 | Feb 06 00:33 |
| schestowitz | " | Feb 06 00:33 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Feb 06 00:33 |
| schestowitz | The shell is definitely quicker tha Unity, but Compiz standalone is different from the Unity plugins on top of Compiz. Compiz used to be faster than Mutter, but now the performance is basically the same. Unity itself is the video memory muncher. | Feb 06 00:33 |
| schestowitz | The design of GNOME is much more focused and well thought out than Unity. You can tell just from reading the documentation. GNOME Shell helps you focus, but keeps all the information you want at a short reach. Just flick the mouse and you know everything that's going on on your computer in a clean, organized layout. In Unity, there are about three different things you have to do to get to the information the Activities overview brings | Feb 06 00:33 |
| schestowitz | you. | Feb 06 00:33 |
| schestowitz | Unity's also tougher for new computer users to learn (at least in my personal experience, and from multiple user research studies). Of course, Unity is much easier to learn for new computer users than Windows, and it's not really too bad. It just doesn't have a lot to offer in comparison to a desktop that's 'Made of Easy'. | Feb 06 00:34 |
| schestowitz | " | Feb 06 00:34 |
| DaemonFC | I have 1 GB vram on both of my cards | Feb 06 00:35 |
| DaemonFC | so I don't care how much it uses | Feb 06 00:35 |
| DaemonFC | people with crappy integrated cards might | Feb 06 00:35 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] LOL! | Feb 06 00:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Definition of drawdown to walk away from an unwinnable stupid military situation Like you always meant it. See I have been fucked. | Feb 06 00:35 | |
| schestowitz | many laptops have just that | Feb 06 00:36 |
| schestowitz | where battry life matters | Feb 06 00:36 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] aisle. | Feb 06 00:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] NO WAIT ISLE CRAP | Feb 06 00:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] RT @x11r5 @evan Don't mind me, i'm just sayin' words | Feb 06 00:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] I hate this game. | Feb 06 00:38 | |
| DaemonFC | OpenGL ES | Feb 06 00:39 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Post SOPA, it's time to protest #ACTA (on Feb. 11) | COLLAPSENET http://goo.gl/OrT2U | Feb 06 00:45 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Feb 06 00:45 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #UN veto being used to protect mates from being held to account? #whodathunkit #US #UK #Israel #Russia #China | Feb 06 00:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Too much not the highlights I do not have the patience but I try every year. | Feb 06 00:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] recession eviction tip: invent a religion, then claim your house as your holy land & eviction is against your religious rights | Feb 06 00:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] Why #Apple Keeps New Hires in the Dark http://ur1.ca/8135g | Feb 06 00:57 | |
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| *Troletariat is now known as Omega | Feb 06 00:58 | |
| DaemonFC | superbowl halftime show is on | Feb 06 01:11 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] U.S. government, military to get secure Android phones http://ur1.ca/813a4 | Feb 06 01:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #LinuxMint 12 #KDE review http://ur1.ca/813a5 | Feb 06 01:18 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] BT Vision plans to leave Mediaroom http://ur1.ca/813am #linux | Feb 06 01:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Hail the penguin http://ur1.ca/813an #linux | Feb 06 01:22 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] FOSS policy wins http://is.gd/c4eTud http://is.gd/4JiMwJ #us #freedom | Feb 06 01:25 | |
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| sebsebseb | hi schestowitz | Feb 06 01:48 |
| sebsebseb | XFaCE | Feb 06 01:48 |
| XFaCE | hi | Feb 06 01:48 |
| sebsebseb | zoobab_: | Feb 06 01:48 |
| sebsebseb | XFaCE: FOSDEM was good | Feb 06 01:50 |
| XFaCE | sebsebseb: good to hear | Feb 06 01:50 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Truism. "Open, however, always follows. Whether it’s a year, a decade or a century, Open. Always. Wins." http://ur1.ca/8136j | Feb 06 01:50 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Syracuse University professor: WikiLeaks might have stopped World War II http://t.co/pf9O439t | Feb 06 01:52 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] "I ♥ Free Software" http://ur1.ca/813lj Celebrate by sending a love report, instead of a bug report | Feb 06 02:18 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] As Anger Over Russian Syria Veto Mounts, Putin "Briefly" Leaves Europe In The Cold | ZeroHedge http://goo.gl/aiJNM | Feb 06 02:22 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Shared a post "6 levels of web app interactivity Level 0: Static A pure, read-only, static HTML experience. e.g.: htt... http://b1t.it/aJ0j | Feb 06 05:05 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Shared a post "Rick, I think you are on target here!" http://ur1.ca/814kw | Feb 06 05:15 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Michael Tiemann - Google+ - Rick, I think you are on target here! .::. Size~: 47.2 KB | Feb 06 05:15 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Timeline went quiet for a couple of hours, but it is active again. Suggest following interesting #hashtags. | Feb 06 05:32 | |
| DaemonFC | http://i.imgur.com/5YyBi.png | Feb 06 05:33 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @@psquid nice hat, btw | Feb 06 05:33 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Yes, it's on my free culture page already, thanks http://www.ur1.ca/2dtzr (and please keep those free culture links coming :) | Feb 06 05:38 | |
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| prurigro | DaemonFC, yours? | Feb 06 05:40 |
| DaemonFC | yep | Feb 06 05:40 |
| DaemonFC | that's my Jabba | Feb 06 05:40 |
| prurigro | cute! | Feb 06 05:42 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @speeddefrost: This would surely explain it. The illustrator of "learn you a haskell for great good" was high on monads when they ... | Feb 06 06:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @lovenemesis: Tip to enable #SPDY in !Firefox 11 Beta: Set network.http.spdy.enabled in about:config to TRUE. http://is.gd/nxprew | Feb 06 06:13 | |
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| DaemonFC | Microsoft is working on a new XBOX | Feb 06 06:59 |
| DaemonFC | IBM and AMD are making the CPU and GPU components again | Feb 06 06:59 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.computerandvideogames.com/333294/ibm-developing-next-xbox-cpu-codenamed-oban-report/ | Feb 06 06:59 |
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| prurigro | http://torrentfreak.com/btjunkie-shuts-down-for-good-120206/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Torrentfreak+%28Torrentfreak%29 | Feb 06 07:29 |
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| scientes | hey | Feb 06 07:36 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] U.S. government, military to get secure Android phones http://ur1.ca/813a4 #gnu #linux #android #mobile #software #security | Feb 06 07:40 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] The situation in Romania http://ur1.ca/815gt #romania #politics #royal #monarchy #bucharest | Feb 06 07:42 | |
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| prurigro | scientes, yoyo | Feb 06 07:46 |
| scientes | round the world | Feb 06 07:46 |
| prurigro | lol, how goes? | Feb 06 07:47 |
| scientes | good | Feb 06 07:47 |
| scientes | how about you? | Feb 06 07:47 |
| prurigro | ahh not too bad-- a bit tired + work to do, but good times other than that :) | Feb 06 07:47 |
| prurigro | anything new and interesting? | Feb 06 07:47 |
| scientes | meh, just walked to the bar, listened to some live music | Feb 06 07:48 |
| scientes | then walked back without buying a drink | Feb 06 07:48 |
| prurigro | haha | Feb 06 07:49 |
| prurigro | they teach bar tenders to turn the volume up like crazy, so people can't talk to eachother as easily | Feb 06 07:49 |
| prurigro | and therefore are more prone to drink more | Feb 06 07:50 |
| prurigro | but I'm more prone to leave, personally :) | Feb 06 07:50 |
| scientes | lol, I don't drink anyways | Feb 06 07:50 |
| prurigro | no? | Feb 06 07:50 |
| scientes | however, I like bars, with loud music and lots of dancing | Feb 06 07:50 |
| prurigro | I like locations for dancing | Feb 06 07:50 |
| prurigro | electronic music, dance music etc | Feb 06 07:50 |
| scientes | the dancing in that recipe is key | Feb 06 07:50 |
| prurigro | true that | Feb 06 07:50 |
| prurigro | some places are really not designed for dancing though | Feb 06 07:51 |
| prurigro | and that's usually what I define as 'bar' | Feb 06 07:51 |
| prurigro | vs club/rave etc | Feb 06 07:51 |
| scientes | gotcha | Feb 06 07:51 |
| prurigro | you're right to use bar though | Feb 06 07:51 |
| scientes | well, with that definition bars are basically worthless, unless they have really good _live_ music | Feb 06 07:51 |
| prurigro | I mean, technically you can dance at them | Feb 06 07:51 |
| prurigro | haha yea | Feb 06 07:51 |
| prurigro | that's pretty much how I feel about bars | Feb 06 07:52 |
| prurigro | :) | Feb 06 07:52 |
| scientes | I was actually dancing here, it was just me | Feb 06 07:52 |
| prurigro | haha | Feb 06 07:53 |
| prurigro | like, at home? | Feb 06 07:53 |
| scientes | i know, rite | Feb 06 07:53 |
| scientes | no, dancing at the bar | Feb 06 07:53 |
| scientes | but i was the only one dancing | Feb 06 07:53 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Regele, cel mai puternic om http://ur1.ca/815iu #romania #royal #politics #monarchy #royal #revolutie | Feb 06 07:53 | |
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| prurigro | haha | Feb 06 07:57 |
| prurigro | sometimes I like to dance when noone else is | Feb 06 07:57 |
| prurigro | but I like people to start joining in at that point | Feb 06 07:57 |
| prurigro | apparently you need a second person | Feb 06 07:57 |
| prurigro | before the masses will be convinced | Feb 06 07:57 |
| scientes | there really isn't enough open space in this bar for critical mass | Feb 06 07:58 |
| scientes | so its a lost cause from the beginning | Feb 06 07:58 |
| prurigro | haha touche | Feb 06 07:59 |
| scientes | however I had been at a concert, in a auditorium with seats, where like hours into it, almost (sortof) over, everybody just gets up and dances in front of their seat | Feb 06 08:03 |
| scientes | it can happen | Feb 06 08:03 |
| prurigro | oh get out | Feb 06 08:15 |
| prurigro | what concert was this? | Feb 06 08:15 |
| scientes | it was like afro-cuban music | Feb 06 08:26 |
| scientes | i was in 6th grade, long time ago | Feb 06 08:26 |
| scientes | schestowitz, how can i search the logs? | Feb 06 08:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Obama terror #drones: CIA tactics in Pakistan include targeting rescuers and funerals - http://bit.ly/yl5Te9 horrific if true | Feb 06 08:32 | |
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| prurigro | scientes, haha afro-cuban, crazyness, are you in the US? I can't remember | Feb 06 08:34 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Mozilla's 3 bold bets to keep the Web open - http://bit.ly/yqKok3 useful summary | Feb 06 08:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Survey on Stakeholder Perceptions of WIPO - http://bit.ly/AyK7Uk want to tell #wipo what you think of it? keep it polite... | Feb 06 08:35 | |
| scientes | yes US | Feb 06 08:35 |
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| scientes | this was at a college auditorium, although it was a general admission concert | Feb 06 08:35 |
| prurigro | interesting-- after hours I assume? | Feb 06 08:36 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] a new low for the #BBC: pushing crackpot #creationism - http://bbc.in/wSekWj (see first line of table at bottom of page) | Feb 06 08:38 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] New Hampshire: #Opensource, #openstandards, #opendata - http://bit.ly/wveFQ3 thrice-good news here | Feb 06 08:40 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Can Poland stop ACTA? - http://bit.ly/yzHXFR hmm, seems it's not so clear #poland could de-rail #ACTA by not ratifying... | Feb 06 08:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Visualization of the Week: Mapping Mexico's drug war - http://oreil.ly/w7VQct tragic stuff | Feb 06 08:43 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Irish #copyright regulations unnecessary - http://bit.ly/A4r8P1 clear analysis of a total mess #ireland | Feb 06 08:45 | |
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| schestowitz | [08:31] <scientes> schestowitz, how can i search the logs? | Feb 06 08:48 |
| schestowitz | Use site search | Feb 06 08:48 |
| schestowitz | add irc to the query maybe | Feb 06 08:48 |
| schestowitz | or your name | Feb 06 08:48 |
| scientes | prurigro, no, this was a paid concert | Feb 06 08:48 |
| schestowitz | "Please keep up the good work.." Stallman said to me last night in an E-mail | Feb 06 08:49 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Umstieg auf #Linux; Nie wieder Viren - http://bit.ly/z5qOma great to see Der Spiegel writing of the joys & benefits of #opensource | Feb 06 08:50 | |
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| prurigro | schestowitz, congrats! | Feb 06 08:50 |
| prurigro | do you talk with him? or did he just send that as one advocate to another? | Feb 06 08:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Rocket was Canadian legend from the badly paid period ... reduced to selling male hair dye post career #shameonus http://www.ur1.ca/815tt | Feb 06 08:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #LibreOffice stats: 400 total contributors, thousands of code commits every month - http://bit.ly/yvRe8u made graphic | Feb 06 08:53 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Busted By The FBI: The Life Of An Elite Teen BitTorrent Uploader - http://bit.ly/xBPWfi interesting how it grew out of sharing | Feb 06 08:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] go @speeddefrost go !rah rah! | Feb 06 08:55 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Busted By The FBI: The Life Of An Elite Teen BitTorrent Uploader | TorrentFreak .::. Size~: 37.93 KB | Feb 06 08:55 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] good morning @kevie and good night !identiverse !tzaf | Feb 06 08:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Open Access and Eric Raymond - http://bit.ly/wCq7Vb good to see #esr getting involvedin #openaccess | Feb 06 08:58 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Open Advice - http://bit.ly/zL1nmA "what 42 prominent #freesw contributors would have liked to know when they started"; free #ebook | Feb 06 09:03 | |
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| MinceR | geekings | Feb 06 09:08 |
| prurigro | What's new in the world of MinceR? | Feb 06 09:16 |
| MinceR | monday :/ | Feb 06 09:18 |
| prurigro | ahh mondays | Feb 06 09:18 |
| prurigro | kinda like other days, but with more work ahead | Feb 06 09:19 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @nickpickles Home Affairs cttee report on internet extremism didn't hear evidence from a single internet technical expert. (v @Coadec) | Feb 06 09:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] "just a Member State, even a little one, could stop EU joining ACTA." - http://bit.ly/yoYQpd so saith a lawyer, apparently (v @kaatje36) | Feb 06 09:33 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Well, the Article is right saying that just one country could stop the EU as wh - Pastebin.com .::. Size~: 13.95 KB | Feb 06 09:33 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jrepin/@jrepin] RT @kdecommunity Starting with !KDE development and need some help? Check out A Beginner's Guide to #KDE Development → http://ur1.ca/812f3 | Feb 06 09:43 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fsmag/@fsmag] Mix fun, 3D, multiplayer, strategy, amazing graphics, fantasy world, map editor, 3D edtor. The result is MegaGlest http://fsmsh.com/3708 | Feb 06 09:58 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: MegaGlest: a fantastic, free software strategy 3D game .::. Size~: 52.96 KB | Feb 06 09:58 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fsmag/@fsmag] Can we embrace loss of privacy and demand reciprocity? If you're intrigued read The Transparent Society by David Brin! http://fsmsh.com/3694 | Feb 06 10:02 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Book Review: The Transparent Society by David Brin .::. Size~: 51.13 KB | Feb 06 10:02 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fsmag/@fsmag] Book review: "Animating with Blender" by D. Roland Hess -- http://fsmsh.com/3695 | Feb 06 10:05 | |
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| iophk | http://www.groovypost.com/howto/security/permanently-delete-your-facebook-profile-account/ | Feb 06 10:07 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fsmag/@fsmag] How to check dozens of blacklists for your mail server! http://ping.fm/37AM1 | Feb 06 10:08 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fsmag/@fsmag] Inspirational, smart, useful. Read things that matter from the people who make free software possible every day http://fsmsh.com/3710 | Feb 06 10:12 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Book review: Open Advice .::. Size~: 48.96 KB | Feb 06 10:12 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #ACTA: 1.717 million ”misinformed” citizens to ignore - http://bit.ly/wqT4UX and increasing by the hour | Feb 06 10:15 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The EU Commission's Repressive Plans Beyond ACTA - http://bit.ly/ACDR15 important post: this is how EU will build on #ACTA #copyright | Feb 06 10:25 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] καλημέρα απο το χιονισμένο μαντσεστερ | Feb 06 10:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Kancelarii Premiera zaproponowaliśmy właśnie jeszcze jeden kanał elektroniczny - otwarty i inkluzywny: IRC ur1.ca/816jl #debataACTA | Feb 06 10:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Pierwsi uczestnicy #debataACTA już na IRCu - zapraszamy na tę otwartą, inkluzywną platformę: ur1.ca/816jl | Feb 06 10:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] dla tych z Was, którzy chcą uczestniczyć w #debataACTA za pomocą IRC - irc,telecomix,org kanał #debataACTA !ACTA #IKWI | Feb 06 10:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] coffee makes the world go round | Feb 06 10:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Jest też interfejs WWW, aby nie trzeba było konfigurować klienta IRC: ur1.ca/816jl #IKWI !ACTA #debataACTA Zapraszamy! | Feb 06 10:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] δεν εχω ορεξη για δουλειά δεν εχω ορεξη για δουλειά δεν εχω ορεξη για δουλεία μπατσοι γουρουνια δολοφόνοι #prwini_ektonwsi | Feb 06 10:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: Good morning to my young advisors, look fwd to your smart input & ideas today. #da12 http://p.ost.im/p/eHDj3H | Feb 06 10:52 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @remin Why pay for #Dropbox when you can run your own private cloud? #BotSync #android works with opensshd - no inefficient, ... http ... | Feb 06 10:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Pity they did not chose a free license. BotSync - Android SFTP SCP SSH Sync App - http://botsync.com/ | Feb 06 10:57 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Dostępna jest opinia prawna EU na temat !ACTA: http://ur1.ca/815zx będą skany - ktoś to weźmie fizycznie do #KPRM na #debataACTA? | Feb 06 11:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @cienkamila: http://t.co/AnKOWzZQ jak idziecie na #debataACTA, to za tydzień 14.02 #netwtorek o hactywiźmie - lepiej niż u Premiera | Feb 06 11:02 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: European spring is over | ACTA .::. Size~: 15.85 KB | Feb 06 11:02 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] java beans help with objective-c on a monday morning | Feb 06 11:03 | |
| iophk | Windows: http://krebsonsecurity.com/2012/02/half-of-fortune-500s-us-govt-still-infected-with-dnschanger-trojan/ | Feb 06 11:07 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Half of Fortune 500s, US Govt. Still Infected with DNSChanger Trojan — Krebs on Security .::. Size~: 205.51 KB | Feb 06 11:07 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Petition in support of a single European Data License - http://bit.ly/wB53WI interseting move #opendata #licensing | Feb 06 11:08 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Petition in support of a single European Data License | International Communia Association .::. Size~: 19.83 KB | Feb 06 11:08 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] Παγωνια http://identi.ca/url/66119262 | Feb 06 11:13 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Downloaded 14GB of Batman Arkham City and played it for less than an hour. Same old button bashing codswallop. #games #wasteofbandwidth | Feb 06 11:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Gas Boom Goes Bust - http://bit.ly/AbZBtE fascinating analysis of gas glut #energy | Feb 06 11:18 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] Παγωνιά http://identi.ca/url/66119411 | Feb 06 11:20 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] You Will Never Kill #Piracy, and Piracy Will Never Kill You - http://onforb.es/ADFUYM good to see this realism in #forbes | Feb 06 11:22 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Network Enabled Research: Maximise scale and connectivity, minimise friction - http://bit.ly/ySOQks great post on why Net changes everything | Feb 06 11:35 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Science in the Open » Blog Archive » Network Enabled Research: Maximise scale and connectivity, minimise friction .::. Size~: 63.02 KB | Feb 06 11:35 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Official: The White House Loves #OpenSource - http://bit.ly/yKRFAD gratuitous love, too... | Feb 06 11:37 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Franks: Contractele bilaterale trebuie să înceteze imediat http://ur1.ca/8174f #romania #energy #imf #fmi #franks | Feb 06 11:40 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Franks: Contractele bilaterale trebuie să înceteze imediat | Romania Libera .::. Size~: 72.17 KB | Feb 06 11:40 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] RT @speeddefrost: RT @speeddefrost We don't need tor because we're criminals. We need it because we're being tracked by criminals. | Feb 06 11:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Why Stop with #Elsevier? - http://bit.ly/wGgHIN that's the *next* question #boycott | Feb 06 11:47 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Franks, #IMF: bilateral #energy contracts must be terminated immediately http://ur1.ca/8177e http://ur1.ca/8177f #romania | Feb 06 11:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Mamy wstępne potwierdzenie, że na kanał IRC #debataACTA wejdą przedstawiciele #MAiC. | Feb 06 11:48 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Parlamentul European poate opri ACTA http://ur1.ca/81798 #acta #eu #romania | Feb 06 11:55 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @sandersch: U.S. officials to get secure !Android phoneshttp://www.cnn.com/2012/02/03/tech/mobile/government-android-phones/index.html | Feb 06 11:57 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] πηγε 12. ωρα για @cocobily στο @radiobubble | Feb 06 12:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] We thank @telecomix for providing #debataACTA with an IRC channel - an open and inclusive means of communication! !ACTA #IKWI | Feb 06 12:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @PiotrLipinski: Mało nas na razie. Internauci i obywatele trudni do odróżnienia :) #debataACTA | Feb 06 12:18 | |
| iophk | Why stop with Elsevier, the other academic publishers are part of the same problem and behave the same way. | Feb 06 12:20 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] Amusing ourselves to death http://ur1.ca/817h4 (via @reddit) | Feb 06 12:28 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Augeas — http://goo.gl/ZvdUW It parses configuration files in their native formats and transforms them into a tree » #flosstools | Feb 06 12:30 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] Guaridan: Eurozone crisis live: Greece talks grind on as 'deadline' passes http://ur1.ca/817ie | Feb 06 12:33 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Eurozone crisis live: Greece talks grind on as 'deadline' passes | Business | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 313.32 KB | Feb 06 12:33 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] !Cyberunions latest audiocast http://is.gd/oTUqSN | Feb 06 12:40 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The Cyberunions Talk Show: Episode 34 Eff it we’ll call it Pipe Soup (SOPA/PIPA) | Cyberunions .::. Size~: 57.47 KB | Feb 06 12:40 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] White House Petition Demands #TPP Process Be Open & Transparent - http://bit.ly/wJzWn2 won't happen, but worth asking | Feb 06 12:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] People forget that Israel has said it does have nuclear weapons in the past. Now because of Iran it has returned to we are not saying. | Feb 06 12:43 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: White House Petition Demands TPP Process Be Open & Transparent | Techdirt .::. Size~: 44.61 KB | Feb 06 12:43 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] A hideous dereliction of our collective duty - http://bit.ly/xJBovh yup, the more mainstream, the bigger the failure #ACTA (v @Asher_Wolf) | Feb 06 12:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @martinolivera: Duda cruel: luego de perder en su oposición al divorcio y al matrimonio gay, se opondra la Iglesia al divorcio gay? | Feb 06 12:47 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Kancelaria Premiera dołączyła na kanał IRC #debataACTA, witamy | Feb 06 13:08 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Pytania z kanału IRC też mają zostać przedstawione na spotkaniu #debataACTA. | Feb 06 13:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Przypominamy o kananale IRC - irc,telecomix,org kanał #debataACTA, www: ur1.ca/816jl !ACTA #IKWI | Feb 06 13:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Debate about !ACTA with Polish PM Tusk - live stream here http://ur1.ca/817qs, IRC, twitter, facebook channels available | Feb 06 13:17 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻@jlipszyc #debataACTA Nie instrukcje, a stanowiska negocjacyjne. W nich jest znaczenie niejasnych terminów, i z nich będą korzystać sądy | Feb 06 13:22 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Sporo pustych miejsc w Sali Kolumnowej KPRM. Czyżby ktoś nie przyszedł?.. #debataACTA | Feb 06 13:25 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Interfejs www nie daje rady, prosimy korzystać z klientów IRC: ur1.ca/817tw serwer irc,telecomix,org kanał #debataACTA !ACTA #IKWI | Feb 06 13:28 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] !ACTA? CO JA PACZE?! #debataACTA | Feb 06 13:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @pburdzy: RT @jlipszyc: #debataACTA Przypomnę, że przez tydzień przed 26.01 wręcz błagalismy premiera o spotkanie... | Feb 06 13:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Monopoly as Innovation? http://ur1.ca/817yj #swpats #us | Feb 06 13:43 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @panoptykon: #debataACTA Istnieją możliwości wycofania podpisu pod ACTA. W obecnej sytuacji rząd polski powinien z nich skorzystać. | Feb 06 13:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] #debataACTA PYTANIE: Czy te analizy zostaną udostępnione? !ACTA #IKWI | Feb 06 13:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Służę Premierowi udostępnionymi dokumentami dot. !ACTA: http://ur1.ca/815zx #debataACTA | Feb 06 13:47 | |
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| koolhead11 | schestowitz: http://ibnlive.in.com/news/sc-issues-notice-to-centre-on-illegal-drug-trials/227719-3.html | Feb 06 13:48 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Flowers of Manchester http://ur1.ca/81803 | Feb 06 13:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Kto nie pacza ten za !ACTA ur1.ca/81808 #debataACTA #IKWI | Feb 06 13:50 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Dobry Stream z #debataACTA http://ur1.ca/8182f !ACTA | Feb 06 13:58 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Jakub Śpiewak vs Premier Tusk #debataACTA | Feb 06 14:00 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Amnesty USA: Sweden Torture and Other Ill-treatment http://t.co/9ussoVEe #svpol #auspol | Feb 06 14:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Infographic: Study shows the long-term impact of teachers | http://red.ht/Awkkqd | Feb 06 14:02 | |
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| schestowitz | [12:20] <iophk> Why stop with Elsevier, the other academic publishers are part of the same problem and behave the same way. | Feb 06 14:05 |
| schestowitz | Elsevier is unique also because it's corrupt | Feb 06 14:05 |
| schestowitz | That's a separate story | Feb 06 14:05 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Bill Gates Uses Symbolic ‘Donation’ to Force Taxpayers to Pay Microsoft (of Which He Holds Shares) http://goo.gl/5RaX6 #billgates | Feb 06 14:05 | |
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| schestowitz | [08:51] <prurigro> do you talk with him? or did he just send that as one advocate to another? | Feb 06 14:06 |
| schestowitz | the latter | Feb 06 14:06 |
| schestowitz | I'm not associated with the FSF in any way, never was... | Feb 06 14:06 |
| schestowitz | Groklaw and FSF have many ideas we agree on... | Feb 06 14:07 |
| schestowitz | Not everything | Feb 06 14:07 |
| iophk | How is it more corrupt than the other publishing houses? | Feb 06 14:13 |
| iophk | http://science.slashdot.org/story/09/05/09/1514235/more-fake-journals-from-elsevier | Feb 06 14:13 |
| iophk | ? | Feb 06 14:13 |
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| schestowitz | Yes, that's what I had in mine | Feb 06 14:16 |
| schestowitz | IIRC, it colluded with Merck | Feb 06 14:16 |
| schestowitz | Maybe more, but I think much of the corruption might never be exposed | Feb 06 14:16 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: Great to meet @TawakkolKarman at @MunSecConf. Inspiring human rights campaigner. http:// http://p.ost.im/p/eHQkUA | Feb 06 14:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: More info on some of the cool stuff going on for safer internet day tomorrow: http://t.c http://p.ost.im/p/eHVCcx | Feb 06 14:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: Securing our Internet - my blog on this weekend's Munich Security conference http://t.co http://p.ost.im/p/eHQ7k7 | Feb 06 14:17 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻@panoptykon #debataACTA Dziękujemy przedstawicielowi mediów za skruchę. Na przyszłość: słuchajcie głosów watchdogów! My to sygnalizowaliśmy | Feb 06 14:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] To obniżmy w Konstytucji status umów międzynarodowych poniżej ustaw. #debataACTA | Feb 06 14:20 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] A czy Polski rząd *podpisze* jakiś dokument, bo "jakaś grupa tego żąda"?.. #debataACTA !ACTA #IKWI | Feb 06 14:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Gates Indoctrinates Youth in the United States and India, Critics Speak Out http://ur1.ca/8189k #pr | Feb 06 14:22 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Panie Premierze, czy te opinie i ekspertyzy zostaną upublicznione? #debataACTA !ACTA #IKWI | Feb 06 14:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] Twenty something degrees higher... Back to Portugal. !FOSDEM | Feb 06 14:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻@michalrachon "Nie chciałbym żebyście po tym spotkaniu potraktowali mnie jako totalnego hipokrytę" #debataACTA Trzeba było myśleć wcześniej | Feb 06 14:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] RT @sirmacik Skoro nie będzie wycofania podpisu to niestety #debataACTA staje się bezcelowa (ACTA była w końcu jej tematem) i powinna zo ... | Feb 06 14:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Prawa autorskie to jest MONOPOL! #debataACTA !ACTA #IKWI | Feb 06 14:30 | |
| schestowitz | "Gnash shows black boxes with a play button for most of the ads but Job's jpeg face shines through to annoy free software users." https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1262513 | Feb 06 14:32 |
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| schestowitz | iophk: "New Hampshire? Really? The Live Free or Die state? I say that because the politics of the people of New Hampshire are very conservative and big corporations are usually able to buy their elected officials easily. I wonder how Microsoft missed this. I have a feeling they'll be contacting the decision makers up there shortly. " https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1264272 | Feb 06 14:33 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] The US-UK extradition treaty is a farse - former MI5 agent http://t.co/cbRpiQxE | Feb 06 14:33 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Znów widać sporo pustych miejsc w KPRM #debataACTA !ACTA #IKWI | Feb 06 14:35 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] White House Petition Demands #TPP Process Be Open & Transparent http://goo.gl/FevHL | Feb 06 14:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @fox_in_space: Content nawet "piracony" napędza legalne zyski, ponieważ jeśli kogoś stac to kupuje legalne materiały #debataACTA | Feb 06 14:38 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: White House Petition Demands TPP Process Be Open & Transparent | Techdirt .::. Size~: 65.58 KB | Feb 06 14:38 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Każdy tweet jest utworem! RT @ewqaewqa: Mam propo - twórzmy cokolwiek i zgłaszajmy do zaiksu jako utwór. #debataACTA | Feb 06 14:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Może coś z IRCa teraz? @IgorOstrowski #debataACTA !ACTA #IKWI | Feb 06 14:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] RT@VaGla #debataACTA "ZAiKS nie odrzuca utworów, Pani coś zmyśliła"; Tymczasem piosenki Hackenbusha ZAiKS odrzucił http://t.co/vzlV2JeD | Feb 06 14:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RebeccaBlackOS - First Live CD Running Wayland Display Server http://goo.gl/F8psH #RebeccaBlackOS #wayland | Feb 06 14:43 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] PTI jest przeciw #ACTA #debataACTA - piękny głos! !ACTA to grodzenie wspólnego dobra. | Feb 06 14:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] PTI wspiera Open Source i Copyleft, i !CreativeCommons! !fs !ACTA #debataACTA !fwioo | Feb 06 14:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #LinuxMint 12 #KDE has been released! | Screenshots Tour http://goo.gl/TTNDm #gnu #linux | Feb 06 14:48 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #LibreOffice 3.5 Will Be Released on February 8 http://goo.gl/0V5Hq #odf | Feb 06 14:50 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Za Wolność Naszą y Waszą! #debataACTA | Feb 06 14:52 | |
| iophk | It will be interesting to see how the NH decision plays out. Has M$ made its countermove yet? | Feb 06 14:52 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Xubuntu 12.04 LTS Alpha 2 http://ur1.ca/818ga #linux | Feb 06 14:53 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] is it just me, or do we think the focus of this section is written in advance? http://goo.gl/fbZQC #balanced #journalism | Feb 06 14:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Jakub Śpiewak i "argument z Kasi i kotka", @jlipszyc approves? ;) #debataACTA | Feb 06 14:55 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Write for us about … negative attitudes towards disability | The people's panel | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 127.57 KB | Feb 06 14:55 |
| schestowitz | iophk: not that I know of any... | Feb 06 14:55 |
| schestowitz | But it's worth keeping an eye on, at the very least to create deterrence against MS lobbyists | Feb 06 14:56 |
| schestowitz | Like Jonathan Zuck | Feb 06 14:56 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Nadal czekamy odpowiedź na pytania z IRC @IgorOstrowski #debataACTA | Feb 06 15:00 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] The EU Commission's Repressive Plans Beyond #ACTA http://ur1.ca/816om | Feb 06 15:00 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #PCLinuxOS 2012.2 has been released http://ur1.ca/818i5 #gnu #linux | Feb 06 15:00 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Moderator's Choice 2011: Seth Kenlon | http://red.ht/ApYcLM #congrats #community | Feb 06 15:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Zapis pytań z IRCa tu: http://ur1.ca/818it @IgorOstrowski #debataACTA | Feb 06 15:02 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #PCLinuxOS 2012.02 Review http://ur1.ca/818jd #gnu #linux | Feb 06 15:03 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: PCLinuxOS 2012.02 Review | Gnuman.com .::. Size~: 25.02 KB | Feb 06 15:03 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Mamy przedstawiciela MAiC na IRCu, być może wreszcie pójdą pytania z tego kanału #debataACTA !ACTA | Feb 06 15:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] On my way back to Munich after an interesting #FOSDEM. Thank you, my dear friends for not letting me down! Next year w... http://b1t.it/aKe6 | Feb 06 15:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @jlipszyc: #debataACTA Zdrojewski zaklada, ze silna i skuteczna ochrona z zasady jest proinnowacyjna. Szkoda, ze jest dokladnie odwrotnie. | Feb 06 15:10 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Jan Wildeboer - Google+ - On my way back to Munich after an interesting #FOSDEM.… .::. Size~: 51.39 KB | Feb 06 15:10 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Berry Linux Mini 1.13 released (2012-2-6) http://ur1.ca/818rp #BerryLinux #gnu #linux | Feb 06 15:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] PYTANIE: Czy te analizy zostaną upublicznione? #debataACTA | Feb 06 15:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Plastic-eating fungus could help deal with landfill - http://bit.ly/A0DJlJ I can't wait for this to escape into the wild... | Feb 06 15:12 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Scholarly work using #Linux http://ur1.ca/818sg #education | Feb 06 15:13 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Ziff Davis Enterprise Sold to Lead-Gen Company QuinStreet, mass layoffs rumored (Folio): http://bit.ly/y2b3uG | Feb 06 15:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] "Open Advice" from 42 free software contributors http://ur1.ca/818sx | Feb 06 15:15 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Ziff Davis Enterprise Sold to Lead-Gen Company QuinStreet - M and A and Finance @ FolioMag.com .::. Size~: 76.57 KB | Feb 06 15:15 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Mind-Controlled Game, Mind Labyrinth, Comes To Linux http://goo.gl/ZmzaB #linux #games | Feb 06 15:18 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Next year we need a federated social web dev room and track at #FOSDEM. Who joins? | Feb 06 15:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Software sans royalty for education - http://bit.ly/xevo19 nice win for #openoffice in #india (v @moldaviax) #opensource | Feb 06 15:20 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The #EU Commission's Repressive Plans Beyond #ACTA http://goo.gl/qTfjn #monopoly | Feb 06 15:23 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Get her there. Ordre de Mufti. Put bucks in the pot NOW. Thank you for your cooperation. http://ur1.ca/8191w... http://b1t.it/aKfM | Feb 06 15:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] XFS: the filesystem of the future? http://ur1.ca/8196h #xfs #linux | Feb 06 15:30 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] How to do delete a google plus profile and all the data associated with it? | Google-Plus.com http://goo.gl/SmgHI #freedomtools | Feb 06 15:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #WhiteHouse Petition Demands TPP Process Be Open & Transparent http://goo.gl/sFAyy #tpp #gnu #linux | Feb 06 15:33 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: How to do delete a google plus profile and all the data associated with it? | Google-Plus.com .::. Size~: 49.79 KB | Feb 06 15:33 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Important stuff to look at when thinking decentralised, federated: http://enable-cors.org/ thx to #unhosted for educating me! | Feb 06 15:35 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @centrumcyfrowe: #debataACTA debatą, mały sukcesem na pewno jest przekonanie organizatorów do uwzględnienia kanału IRC do komunikacji | Feb 06 15:37 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Huh? | Feb 06 15:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] RT @fredmanglis Nice read: NewScientist http://ur1.ca/5v2um cc @eebrah @nj3ma | Feb 06 15:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @centrumcyfrowe: #debataACTA Min. Boni czyta agendę którą zaprezentował na #ikwi kongresie wolnego internetu w sobotę !ACTA | Feb 06 15:38 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Had quite the weekend. First taste of Thika "Superhighway" behind the wheel. | Feb 06 15:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Love the overpass from Parklands to Pangani, it was bout time. #thikasuperhighway | Feb 06 15:40 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Funny how Pinterest has already created more buzz than Google+ (SortaCrunchy): http://bit.ly/zBeH89 | Feb 06 15:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] The Muthaiga exit was closed off had to go all the way up Kiambu Road and use Karura Close to get into Muthaiga. | Feb 06 15:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] widzę... ♻ @sirmacik: . @rysiek póki co niestety poza obecnością KPRM na kanale nijak IRC nie jest uwzględniany... #debataACTA | Feb 06 15:42 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Very cool idea. http://ur1.ca/81blt | Feb 06 15:45 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Transportes públicos seguranças não podem multar - Expresso.pt http://goo.gl/UsxED #pt #policestate #ilegal | Feb 06 15:48 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] PANIE PREMIERZE: Jak mamy "uwolnić przestrzeń od nieufności", skoro zrobiliśmy to dwa lata temu. Efekt znamy. #debataACTA | Feb 06 15:50 | |
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| DaemonFC | Whenever a band that I'm following on Facebook that uses the MAFIAA for distribution makes a post now, I comment on it | Feb 06 15:53 |
| DaemonFC | "ave you considered using unencumbered media codecs that are the quality of a CD such as FLAC? Also, do you even have the distribution rights to your own stuff, or did you sign it all away to the MAFIAA? You could do what Radiohead and Nine Inch Nails have done and cut out the MAFIAA entirely. Just a suggestion if you want any more of my business." | Feb 06 15:53 |
| DaemonFC | *Have | Feb 06 15:53 |
| DaemonFC | "itunes is defective by design, it is totally proprietary and so are the files it hands you. The files on itunes are in heavily patent encumbered AAC format, tagged with your customer data so they can come back and sue you if you share with your friends, and most of their stuff is encumbered with Digital Restrictions Malware. Apple is a terrible company and is against fundamental rights of... | Feb 06 15:53 |
| DaemonFC | ...their users." | Feb 06 15:53 |
| DaemonFC | hehe | Feb 06 15:53 |
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| DaemonFC | let's see if they start deleting these | Feb 06 15:54 |
| DaemonFC | I know jono would | Feb 06 15:54 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Feb 06 15:54 |
| MinceR | :> | Feb 06 15:54 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] "Over 3 years later, "deleted" Facebook photos are still online" - http://ur1.ca/81d2u... http://b1t.it/aKgx | Feb 06 15:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Where the Unix philosophy breaks down: Transaction costs (The Endeavour): http://bit.ly/AwXynK | Feb 06 15:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @panoptykon: #debataACTA !ACTA to symbol opresyjnej polityki. | Feb 06 15:55 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Panie Premierze, czy te ekspertyzy zostaną ujawnione? #debataACTA !ACTA | Feb 06 15:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @jwildeboer: "Over 3 years later, "deleted" Facebook photos are still online" - http://ur1.ca/81d2u... http://b1t.it/aKgx #fb | Feb 06 15:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Extension List Dumper http://goo.gl/RwtKM #flosstools #addons #mozilla | Feb 06 15:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #LibreOffice making progress http://ur1.ca/81d48 #odf | Feb 06 15:58 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Enough Hayek already, bring back the Keynesians. #justsayin | Feb 06 16:00 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Software sans royalty for #education http://ur1.ca/81d4l #freesw | Feb 06 16:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @sirmacik: ZAiKS na pewno panu premierowi powie że nie jest twórcą... #debataACTA !ACTA | Feb 06 16:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @panoptykon: #debataACTA Premier nareszcie przyznał, że prawa autorskie to (zwyrodniała) forma monopolu. "Nie chcemy służyć koncernom". | Feb 06 16:02 | |
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| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer | Feb 06 16:03 |
| DaemonFC | http://arstechnica.com/business/news/2012/02/nearly-3-years-later-deleted-facebook-photos-are-still-online.ars | Feb 06 16:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Over 3 years later, "deleted" Facebook photos are still online .::. Size~: 35.74 KB | Feb 06 16:03 |
| DaemonFC | Richard Stallman once mentioned the same problem with any site that has a "delete" button. Just because it says that's what it is, doesn't mean that's what it does. You probably want to be careful what you give to Facebook anyway. | Feb 06 16:03 |
| schestowitz | fah ma! | Feb 06 16:03 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] OMB Shared First should include open source, says group http://goo.gl/olfPP #opensource | Feb 06 16:03 | |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC: well, at least it MARKED as deleted | Feb 06 16:04 |
| schestowitz | not for the user to undelete or restore | Feb 06 16:04 |
| schestowitz | MARKed Deleted Zuckerfucker | Feb 06 16:04 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft's unwritten policy says that they store files the user "deletes" for up to a year | Feb 06 16:04 |
| DaemonFC | in case law enforcement becomes interested | Feb 06 16:04 |
| DaemonFC | they also don't require a valid court order to turn any of it over | Feb 06 16:04 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Also ran into @evedsouza at VM. Second time in as many months.. | Feb 06 16:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Plus got to visit Ruaka for the first time ever. | Feb 06 16:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Meanwhile, if you miss the Allsops exit into Outer Ring Road, Roysambu's your next turn. #thikasuperhighway | Feb 06 16:07 | |
| DaemonFC | The Christian Science Monitor | Feb 06 16:08 |
| DaemonFC | Ronald Reagan: Of this sample, which is your favorite quote? | Feb 06 16:08 |
| DaemonFC | Ronald Reagan: 10 quotes on his birthday | Feb 06 16:08 |
| DaemonFC | www.csmonitor.com | Feb 06 16:08 |
| DaemonFC | To honor what would have been his 101st birthday on Feb. 6, 2012, here are 10 quotes from former President Ronald Reagan. | Feb 06 16:08 |
| DaemonFC | Like · · Share · 182315 · 2 hours ago · | Feb 06 16:08 |
| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer How about the one where he called a fat pill popping hatemonger (Rush Limbaugh) one of the shining examples and promoters of Conservatism. No? | Feb 06 16:08 |
| DaemonFC | a few seconds ago · Like | Feb 06 16:08 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #OpenSource Initiative affiliates announced at #FOSDEM http://goo.gl/5OXyn #osi | Feb 06 16:08 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] So for three years Facebook is saying: "Yes, we know about this and we are really close to fixing it." 3 years. To fin... http://b1t.it/aKg6 | Feb 06 16:10 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Jan Wildeboer - Google+ - So for three years Facebook is saying: "Yes, we know about… .::. Size~: 50.47 KB | Feb 06 16:10 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/FFII/statuses/166249511755325440 http://twitter.com/FFII/statuses/166248003169030144 | Feb 06 16:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @FFII: Thanks to Karen Sandler for organising the software patent panel at Fosdem yesterday http://t.co/jXA36rKk | Feb 06 16:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Feb 06 16:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @FFII: @kaatje36 @marietjeD66 The Parliament administration in a confirmatory application didn't get that the committee published it meanwhile. | Feb 06 16:11 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/FFII/statuses/166251043154436096 | Feb 06 16:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @FFII: @mmu_man FFII President Benjamin Henrion, although he catched a cold, took part in nice panel discussion | Feb 06 16:11 |
| schestowitz | catched [sic] | Feb 06 16:11 |
| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer All administrations lie to make unemployment numbers seem lower and the underemployment issue swept under the rug entirely. GOVERNOR Bush's administration called fast food jobs "manufacturing", on the basis that putting a McDonalds pink-slime coated burger patty and some limp pickles that were probably stored in formaldehyde onto a stale bun was "assembly". | Feb 06 16:12 |
| DaemonFC | 2 seconds ago · Like | Feb 06 16:12 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/agonarch/status/166269025607884800 | Feb 06 16:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @agonarch: Benjamin Henrion explained why the #OIN model provides fairly limited protection against trolls. Enterprises need sth. better that. #fosdem | Feb 06 16:12 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: lol | Feb 06 16:12 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Pink slime, stale bun, limp pickles. I'm lovin' it! | Feb 06 16:13 |
| DaemonFC | check back next month for more toys for your kids with lead paint in them! | Feb 06 16:13 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz: You have Oklahoma trying to pass a law against eating unborn fetuses which isn't happening...but they won't make McDonalds take dog food (literally DOG FOOD) ingredients out of their burgers | Feb 06 16:15 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #OOo vs #LibreOffice flamewars? http://ur1.ca/81d94 #odf | Feb 06 16:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] FFII Developers profit less from software patents than patent attorneys? That's because developers are not innovative. #justkiddin | Feb 06 16:15 | |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC: maybe these are good dog foods.. | Feb 06 16:15 |
| DaemonFC | the stuff they allow in food is a lot more deadly than tossing some human fetuses into the grinder | Feb 06 16:16 |
| DaemonFC | after what they allow in McDonalds food, tossing a fetus in the grinder would probably be the healthiest fucking thing in the whole burger | Feb 06 16:16 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻@jlipszyc: #debataACTA Jesli wszyscy zgadzaja sie na to, ze niekomercyjne wykorzystanie jest OK, to teraz zrobmy tak, zeby to bylo legalne. | Feb 06 16:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @FFII Software development 2.0: Insert coin, print patent, implement patent,... #justkidding | Feb 06 16:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Welcome to Twidge - GitHub http://goo.gl/8TQAg #microblogging #lowspecbox #cli #flosstools | Feb 06 16:18 | |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC: "Waiter, my stew is raw. Need. MOAR. FETUS!!" | Feb 06 16:19 |
| DaemonFC | "Why does McDonalds food taste so good?" (actually printed on a box) I don't know. Factory farm animals shot up with synthetic hormones, preservatives you can't pronounce, genetically mutated vegetables, microwave, heat lamp, 15 year old that spits in your burger (or worse) | Feb 06 16:19 |
| DaemonFC | MOAR FETUS PLEASE!!! | Feb 06 16:19 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] I think "Donkey Kong" is actually the best :-) http://ur1.ca/81daa via +Klaus Weidenbach | Feb 06 16:20 | |
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| *DaemonFC feeds some fetus to fewt | Feb 06 16:20 | |
| DaemonFC | I shall call him, fewtus | Feb 06 16:20 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: mom to her baby: "c'mon honey, you didn't finish your fetus" | Feb 06 16:20 |
| schestowitz | fewt is US | Feb 06 16:21 |
| DaemonFC | Baby to momma: want MOAR lead toys, bitch! | Feb 06 16:21 |
| schestowitz | Together we are legion | Feb 06 16:21 |
| schestowitz | multiplied by a million | Feb 06 16:21 |
| schestowitz | divided by 0 | Feb 06 16:21 |
| DaemonFC | caught up by the Intel processor bugs | Feb 06 16:21 |
| DaemonFC | and rounded accurately to at least 3 places to the right of the decimal | Feb 06 16:22 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Feb 06 16:22 |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.anandtech.com/show/4142/intel-discovers-bug-in-6series-chipset-begins-recall | Feb 06 16:25 |
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| DaemonFC | Intel actually loses very little money when they make defective hardware | Feb 06 16:26 |
| DaemonFC | most people won't ever know | Feb 06 16:26 |
| DaemonFC | so they quietly pull it from retail channels | Feb 06 16:26 |
| DaemonFC | and that's the end of it | Feb 06 16:26 |
| MinceR | doesn't sound like a quiet pull to me | Feb 06 16:28 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: Mary Jane Walmartshopper will never know why her Dell failed | Feb 06 16:30 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] "Warum schützen wir die Schwächsten nicht mehr? Auch nicht die Aufmüpfigen, die Sperrigen, die unser Tempo bremsen?... http://b1t.it/aKhJ | Feb 06 16:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Dostało się opozycji - i słusznie! #debataACTA !ACTA | Feb 06 16:30 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Polecam mapę protestów, pod rozwagę Pana Premiera: ur1.ca/7xrmq #debataACTA !ACTA | Feb 06 16:35 | |
| eebrah | DaemonFC, MinceR -- What have Intel done now? | Feb 06 16:37 |
| MinceR | eebrah: http://www.anandtech.com/show/4142/intel-discovers-bug-in-6series-chipset-begins-recall | Feb 06 16:37 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: AnandTech - Intel Discovers Bug in 6-Series Chipset: Our Analysis .::. Size~: 57.91 KB | Feb 06 16:37 |
| eebrah | Thanks MinceR | Feb 06 16:38 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Can Poland stop #ACTA? - http://bit.ly/yzHXFR updated version, with new improved answer ("yes") | Feb 06 16:38 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] PCLinuxOS 2012.02 and Mint KDE Reviews http://ur1.ca/81dfb #tr | Feb 06 16:42 | |
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| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/90124664 | Feb 06 16:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Monday, 06-Feb-12 16:15:25 UTC - Identi.ca: RT @FFII Software patents do create jobs for litigation lawyers and patent attorneys in Europe | Feb 06 16:42 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] RT @schestowitz RT @FFII Software development 2.0: Insert coin, print patent, implement patent,... #justkidding | Feb 06 16:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Qataki: Command line http://ur1.ca/81dh9 client http://goo.gl/OHdeC #cli #flosstools #lowspecbox #microblogging | Feb 06 16:47 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Getting to now why using absolute links is a dumb idea. | Feb 06 16:48 | |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/90125854 | Feb 06 16:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Jose R Rodriguez (metztli)'s status on Monday, 06-Feb-12 16:43:52 UTC - Identi.ca: ♺ @schestowitz Monopoly as Innovation? http://ur1.ca/817yj #swpats"pple habitually get US patents on matrix operations…That’s #mathematics" | Feb 06 16:51 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Five open source hardware projects that could change the world (The H) http://ur1.ca/81dix | Feb 06 16:52 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Honeywell Files #Patent Lawsuit Against Smart #Thermostat Developer Nest - http://tcrn.ch/wGdxI0 the honeymoon is over | Feb 06 16:53 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Honeywell Files Patent Lawsuit Against Smart Thermostat Developer Nest | TechCrunch .::. Size~: 57.22 KB | Feb 06 16:53 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] The M.I.Addle finger! | Feb 06 16:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] And where is this Superb Owl y'all Americans is talking about? Why would Madonna perform for a bird? | Feb 06 16:55 | |
| DaemonFC | http://kohei.us/2007/10/02/history-of-calc-solver/ | Feb 06 17:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: History of Calc Solver | Roundtrip to Shanghai via Tokyo .::. Size~: 74.88 KB | Feb 06 17:01 |
| DaemonFC | most of the LibreOffice work so far has ben to try to reverse years of mismanagement by Sun and Oracle | Feb 06 17:02 |
| DaemonFC | not to make actual progress | Feb 06 17:02 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @metztli Making #Android remote control and IT administration apps work for you http://ur1.ca/81dkd #SSH #VNC #TeamViewer | Feb 06 17:03 | |
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| DaemonFC | Sun spent years writing poor quality implementations of things that were already out there just to make sure they owned 100% of OOo | Feb 06 17:04 |
| prurigro | is that why open office sucked all those years? | Feb 06 17:04 |
| DaemonFC | a major reason | Feb 06 17:05 |
| DaemonFC | and why upstream OOo went so many releases without a Solver | Feb 06 17:05 |
| DaemonFC | while Go-OO had this one | Feb 06 17:05 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Target Isn’t Hollywood, MPAA, RIAA, Or MAFIAA: It’s The Policymakers - http://bit.ly/zetxgw thoughtful piece, as ever | Feb 06 17:05 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The Target Isn’t Hollywood, MPAA, RIAA, Or MAFIAA: It’s The Policymakers | TorrentFreak .::. Size~: 33.68 KB | Feb 06 17:05 |
| prurigro | hmm interesting | Feb 06 17:05 |
| prurigro | I mean it wasn't even a month after libre office was out, and it was already a viable office suite for the first time | Feb 06 17:06 |
| prurigro | it almost felt like they had the correct patch sets just waiting | Feb 06 17:06 |
| prurigro | was that oo-go? | Feb 06 17:06 |
| DaemonFC | mostly | Feb 06 17:08 |
| DaemonFC | they had a huge patchset against OOo for Linux distributors for several years before that | Feb 06 17:09 |
| DaemonFC | which snowballed into over a million lines of code added/removed/changed | Feb 06 17:09 |
| prurigro | oh wow | Feb 06 17:09 |
| prurigro | that was oo-go? | Feb 06 17:09 |
| DaemonFC | eventually the external patch set was so huge that to proceed, they needed to fork | Feb 06 17:09 |
| DaemonFC | no, there was an ooo-build tree | Feb 06 17:09 |
| prurigro | and this was all because sun wouldn't accept the set? | Feb 06 17:09 |
| DaemonFC | full of stuff that Sun refused to integrate into their OOo | Feb 06 17:10 |
| DaemonFC | and Go-OO pulled from that | Feb 06 17:10 |
| DaemonFC | and so did most Linux distributions | Feb 06 17:10 |
| prurigro | interesting | Feb 06 17:10 |
| prurigro | and the refusal to pull meant they'd be able to change the license if they pleased? | Feb 06 17:10 |
| DaemonFC | the problem is that most of the added functionality had to be implemented using the add-on system | Feb 06 17:10 |
| DaemonFC | Sun guaranteed a stable ABI for add-ons | Feb 06 17:11 |
| DaemonFC | I don't think LibreOffice does | Feb 06 17:11 |
| DaemonFC | but they make sure that they don't promote any add-ons that aren't free software anyway | Feb 06 17:11 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Five open source hardware projects that could change the world http://goo.gl/cuAtL #openhardware | Feb 06 17:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Learning from Kenya: Mobile money transfer and co-working spaces - http://tnw.co/zs7Nr1 transferred funds equal 25% GDP: wow | Feb 06 17:12 | |
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| DaemonFC | it's turned around and become like LInux "Fix your broken code, don't rely on us to ship a broken stable ABI" | Feb 06 17:12 |
| DaemonFC | but Microsoft was probably thrilled with OOo | Feb 06 17:12 |
| fewt | Uh what? | Feb 06 17:12 |
| fewt | If it weren't for Sun, OOo wouldn't have existed. | Feb 06 17:13 |
| DaemonFC | it gave them a "competing office suite" to point to during anti-trust hearings | Feb 06 17:13 |
| DaemonFC | but OOo never made any real progress | Feb 06 17:13 |
| DaemonFC | unless it came from a Sun employee | Feb 06 17:13 |
| fewt | OOo made tons of progress in comparison to StarOffice (the original product). | Feb 06 17:13 |
| DaemonFC | they basically shot down most improvements that were offered that wouldn't let Sun turn it into proprietary software | Feb 06 17:13 |
| DaemonFC | that was what the contributor agreement did | Feb 06 17:14 |
| DaemonFC | it made your code Sun property | Feb 06 17:14 |
| fewt | They shot down improvements that caused instability. | Feb 06 17:14 |
| DaemonFC | and said they could make it nonfree and exploit their users with it | Feb 06 17:14 |
| fewt | Their contributor agreement is similar to Ubuntu's. | Feb 06 17:14 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, unfortunately | Feb 06 17:14 |
| fewt | Misdirected hate IMHO. | Feb 06 17:14 |
| fewt | OOo was revolutionary to the community. | Feb 06 17:14 |
| DaemonFC | Ubuntu's agreement is going to do to Unity what it did to OOo | Feb 06 17:15 |
| fewt | We should thank Sun for it. | Feb 06 17:15 |
| DaemonFC | make the list of contributors small | Feb 06 17:15 |
| DaemonFC | and stagnate progress | Feb 06 17:15 |
| DaemonFC | to make sure Canonical owns all of the code | Feb 06 17:15 |
| Omega | Uh Ubuntu's? | Feb 06 17:15 |
| Omega | You mean Canonical's right? | Feb 06 17:15 |
| DaemonFC | there is no difference | Feb 06 17:15 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Diversity in #linux is nothing new http://ur1.ca/81dr4 -1 | Feb 06 17:15 | |
| fewt | There is no difference | Feb 06 17:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Is Desktop Linux Becoming Fractured as Open Source Matures? | The VAR Guy .::. Size~: 93.18 KB | Feb 06 17:15 |
| DaemonFC | Ubuntu is all about openwashing and sockuppetry and meatpuppetry | Feb 06 17:16 |
| Omega | You don't have to sign any contributor agreement to work on Ubuntu. | Feb 06 17:16 |
| schestowitz | what about unity? | Feb 06 17:16 |
| DaemonFC | unless Canonical already "owns" the component | Feb 06 17:16 |
| DaemonFC | like Unity | Feb 06 17:16 |
| DaemonFC | or indicators | Feb 06 17:16 |
| fewt | or their API forks | Feb 06 17:17 |
| DaemonFC | or any of a dozen other things | Feb 06 17:17 |
| Omega | Yeah, but that's something the unity devs chose | Feb 06 17:17 |
| Omega | not Ubuntu | Feb 06 17:17 |
| DaemonFC | those are Canonical employees | Feb 06 17:17 |
| Omega | Ubuntu's just shippung upstream unity | Feb 06 17:17 |
| DaemonFC | Ubuntu is a sockpuppet for Canonical | Feb 06 17:17 |
| Omega | yes, they are | Feb 06 17:17 |
| Omega | DaemonFC: what do you mean with that | Feb 06 17:17 |
| fewt | Uh what? | Feb 06 17:17 |
| fewt | Unity = Ubuntu, Ubuntu = Unity | Feb 06 17:18 |
| DaemonFC | it lets Canonical hide behind what looks like an open project where others have influence | Feb 06 17:18 |
| Omega | fewt: that is false | Feb 06 17:18 |
| DaemonFC | when they really run the entire thing themselves | Feb 06 17:18 |
| fewt | are you sure about that? | Feb 06 17:18 |
| Omega | DaemonFC: what do you mean looks like an open project | Feb 06 17:18 |
| Omega | isn't it free software | Feb 06 17:18 |
| DaemonFC | a large chunk of it is | Feb 06 17:18 |
| Omega | isn't that all that matters? | Feb 06 17:18 |
| Omega | DaemonFC: what isn't? | Feb 06 17:18 |
| DaemonFC | but you shouldn't be offering patches to Ubuntu for that | Feb 06 17:18 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] το twitter bridge δεν μου δουλευει σημερα. | Feb 06 17:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @glynmoody Learning from Kenya: Mobile money transfer and co-working spaces - http://tnw.co/zs7Nr1 transferred funds equal 25% GDP: wow | Feb 06 17:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] με δουλευει το twitter bridge, τωρα δουλεψε. αισιχτιρ. | Feb 06 17:18 | |
| fewt | http://www.canonical.com/contributors | Feb 06 17:18 |
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| DaemonFC | you should be going upstream where they got it from to begin with | Feb 06 17:19 |
| fewt | Unity is a core component of Ubuntu | Feb 06 17:19 |
| Omega | fewt: yes, so? | Feb 06 17:19 |
| DaemonFC | a lot of the minimal contributions Ubuntu makes upstream are mistakenly attributed to them | Feb 06 17:19 |
| DaemonFC | someone else gave the patch to Ubuntu | Feb 06 17:19 |
| Omega | Do you know the meaning of the equality operator fewt? | Feb 06 17:19 |
| DaemonFC | and Ubuntu redirected it upstream | Feb 06 17:19 |
| fewt | http://unity.ubuntu.com/about/ | Feb 06 17:19 |
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| DaemonFC | they really only contribute to projects they own | Feb 06 17:19 |
| fewt | There is no upstream for Unity | Feb 06 17:19 |
| DaemonFC | yeah there is, Ubuntu | Feb 06 17:20 |
| Omega | DaemonFC: I don't see how this all matters | Feb 06 17:20 |
| fewt | That's my point | Feb 06 17:20 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Open Source Tackles Healthcare In Places Microsoft Can’t - http://bit.ly/x2KI36 good intro to OpenMRS | Feb 06 17:20 | |
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| fewt | Ubuntu = Unity and Unity = Ubuntu | Feb 06 17:20 |
| fewt | they are mutually exclusive | Feb 06 17:20 |
| DaemonFC | most users don't care, but it does affect the quality of the software that is restricted by that contributor agreement | Feb 06 17:20 |
| Omega | fewt: Ubuntu is more than unity | Feb 06 17:20 |
| Omega | they are not the same | Feb 06 17:20 |
| DaemonFC | if they didn't have that agreement and ran Unity as an open project, the number of contributors would triple and it wouldn't be tied to Ubuntu | Feb 06 17:21 |
| fewt | They are dropping users and contributors like crazy. | Feb 06 17:21 |
| Omega | DaemonFC: yes, I agree that the contributor agreement is not what I would do, but what can I do about it? | Feb 06 17:21 |
| fewt | fork | Feb 06 17:21 |
| Omega | Complain about something that's not mine? | Feb 06 17:21 |
| DaemonFC | they're more interested in owning it than improving it | Feb 06 17:21 |
| fewt | that's what you can do | Feb 06 17:21 |
| DaemonFC | just like what Sun did to OOo | Feb 06 17:21 |
| Omega | DaemonFC: that's a lie | Feb 06 17:21 |
| fewt | DaemonFC: preach | Feb 06 17:21 |
| Omega | DaemonFC: Can you explain what would lead you to think that? | Feb 06 17:22 |
| fewt | DaemonFC: Sun > Canonical in that regard | Feb 06 17:22 |
| fewt | because they took a closed source product, opened it, and then built a community around it. | Feb 06 17:22 |
| DaemonFC | if it was a lie, then OOo would have had a Solver for calc about 3 years before that mediocre one that Sun wrote | Feb 06 17:22 |
| DaemonFC | among other things | Feb 06 17:22 |
| Omega | fewt: how does this matter? | Feb 06 17:22 |
| fewt | They also created the GNOME HIG and a lot of other things that were used and adopted by more than just Sun | Feb 06 17:22 |
| Omega | DaemonFC: Your reasoning is pathetic. | Feb 06 17:22 |
| fewt | Omega: Are you a canonical employee? | Feb 06 17:23 |
| Omega | no | Feb 06 17:23 |
| fewt | Ubuntu developer? | Feb 06 17:23 |
| Omega | Fuck corporation | Feb 06 17:23 |
| Omega | s | Feb 06 17:23 |
| Omega | No | Feb 06 17:23 |
| fewt | Ubuntu user? | Feb 06 17:23 |
| DaemonFC | maybe Canonical will realize that they're holding themselves back with their own control freakery | Feb 06 17:23 |
| Omega | I do use Ubuntu, yes. | Feb 06 17:23 |
| DaemonFC | and Unity will be a legitimate piece of free software then | Feb 06 17:23 |
| fewt | ahh, there we go. | Feb 06 17:23 |
| fewt | I knew you were one of the three. | Feb 06 17:23 |
| Omega | fewt: Are you an Ubuntu user? | Feb 06 17:23 |
| fewt | no | Feb 06 17:23 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] UK National DNA database needed for personalised medicine drive - http://tgr.ph/zlZZIv the police will love this #dnadatabase | Feb 06 17:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Zenithink releases Android 4.0 for most of its tablets http://goo.gl/27YFl #linux #tablet | Feb 06 17:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] Joerg Simon made a photo of our Mini #FAmSCo meeting at !FOSDEM: http://is.gd/zVvKLZ /cc: !Fedora | Feb 06 17:23 | |
| Omega | Ahh, there we go. | Feb 06 17:23 |
| fewt | I was though | Feb 06 17:24 |
| Omega | I knew you weren't. | Feb 06 17:24 |
| fewt | from 2004-2009 | Feb 06 17:24 |
| Omega | Then you got cooler right? | Feb 06 17:24 |
| Omega | Right? | Feb 06 17:24 |
| fewt | no, not cooler. | Feb 06 17:24 |
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| fewt | fed up with all the hacks to make it go | Feb 06 17:24 |
| DaemonFC | I use Kubuntu | Feb 06 17:24 |
| DaemonFC | Canonical hasn't forked and rebranded KDE | Feb 06 17:24 |
| DaemonFC | yet.... | Feb 06 17:24 |
| fewt | yet. | Feb 06 17:24 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] "...they can buy the scratch cards containing the codes needed to fill their account" - Wait what? on #MPesa? doesn't happen | Feb 06 17:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] να τωρα μου εφαγε παλι ενα.. #e_to_gamimeno | Feb 06 17:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Data from #Monsanto do not meet basic scientific standards - http://bit.ly/zyod5y so reject it until it does #gm #eu | Feb 06 17:25 | |
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| Omega | DaemonFC: It's fine to say that the CA is holding contribution back, you can use reason and come to this conclusion. | Feb 06 17:25 |
| Omega | It's bullshit to say "Sun > Canonical" | Feb 06 17:25 |
| fewt | How? | Feb 06 17:26 |
| Omega | "because they opened up a closed source project!!!1" | Feb 06 17:26 |
| DaemonFC | "We have this neat new shell for GNOME that we call Unity. It has the advantages of being monopolized by us, having a tenth the contributors, and having many thousands of lines of code and one distribution doing QA (ours)" | Feb 06 17:26 |
| Omega | fewt: OK, what makes one company better than another? | Feb 06 17:26 |
| fewt | what has Canonical contributed to the community as a whole? | Feb 06 17:26 |
| fewt | nothing. | Feb 06 17:26 |
| fewt | They only contribute to themselves | Feb 06 17:26 |
| schestowitz | jono | Feb 06 17:26 |
| DaemonFC | they sacrificed jono for our sins | Feb 06 17:26 |
| fewt | They contributed Jono? teehee | Feb 06 17:26 |
| schestowitz | they gave us bacon (brought home the bacon) | Feb 06 17:26 |
| Omega | fewt: 1) What constitutes as contributing 2) What is the community as a whole 3) How does this make Canonical a worse company? | Feb 06 17:27 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #GoldmanSachs CEO Blankfein Identifies with Struggling Americans After Bonus Cut in Half http://goo.gl/XbZ2Y #banking | Feb 06 17:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Zenithink releases Android 4.0 for most of its tablets http://goo.gl/27YFl #linux #tablet | Feb 06 17:27 | |
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| fewt | 1. upstream development | Feb 06 17:27 |
| fewt | 2. you already know this | Feb 06 17:27 |
| fewt | 3. they put nothing back | Feb 06 17:27 |
| Omega | The only contribution is development? | Feb 06 17:27 |
| DaemonFC | KDE and GNOME have many distributions doing development and QA | Feb 06 17:27 |
| DaemonFC | Unity only has one | Feb 06 17:27 |
| Omega | fewt: You cannot reason. | Feb 06 17:27 |
| DaemonFC | there's a problem for the user | Feb 06 17:28 |
| fewt | Omega: you are making excuses ala zealot. | Feb 06 17:28 |
| Omega | What excuse did I make? | Feb 06 17:28 |
| DaemonFC | Unity can't possibly hope to match the stability, features, and overall code quality of KDE or GNOME | Feb 06 17:28 |
| Omega | It's not my fault you cannot reason. | Feb 06 17:28 |
| fewt | reason? | Feb 06 17:28 |
| fewt | you aren't reasoning | Feb 06 17:28 |
| Omega | I don't have to | Feb 06 17:28 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Apple updates iBooks Author EULA to clarify restriction on format, not content - http://bit.ly/y1ZQkc that's good, but probably moot | Feb 06 17:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #techrights log #boycottnovell log #boycottnovell-social log #techbytes log Enter the IRC channels now | Feb 06 17:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] RT @ #techrights log #boycottnovell log #boycottnovell-social log #techbytes log Enter the IRC channels now | Feb 06 17:28 | |
| Omega | You made a claim | Feb 06 17:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Apple updates iBooks Author EULA to clarify restriction on format, not content .::. Size~: 32.97 KB | Feb 06 17:28 |
| Omega | You have to defend it | Feb 06 17:29 |
| DaemonFC | it's like asking why the RIAA is tanking | Feb 06 17:29 |
| fewt | I already have | Feb 06 17:29 |
| Omega | Riiiiight | Feb 06 17:29 |
| fewt | Sun co-authored the GNOME HIG | Feb 06 17:29 |
| DaemonFC | when their disgusting antisocial behavior limits their pool of customers | Feb 06 17:29 |
| Omega | "what did they contribute? Nothing QED" | Feb 06 17:29 |
| fewt | Ubuntu created Unity | Feb 06 17:29 |
| Omega | Great reasoning there. | Feb 06 17:29 |
| fewt | who uses the GNOME HIG? | Feb 06 17:29 |
| fewt | everyone | Feb 06 17:29 |
| fewt | who uses Unity? | Feb 06 17:29 |
| fewt | Ubuntu | Feb 06 17:29 |
| fewt | Who used open office | Feb 06 17:29 |
| fewt | everyone | Feb 06 17:29 |
| fewt | who used windicators | Feb 06 17:29 |
| Omega | I'm out, reason is apparantly too much to ask of this channel. | Feb 06 17:29 |
| fewt | Ubuntu | Feb 06 17:29 |
| fewt | there is your reason | Feb 06 17:30 |
| fewt | deal with it | Feb 06 17:30 |
| DaemonFC | LibreOffice takes contributions that Sun would have just kicked to the curb | Feb 06 17:30 |
| DaemonFC | and maybe tried to re-implement themselves, 3 years later | Feb 06 17:30 |
| Omega | fwi (just to point out how ignorant you are) ubuntu does not use windicators | Feb 06 17:30 |
| fewt | I don't disagree with that DaemonFC | Feb 06 17:30 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement (#ACTA) and Its Impact on Access to Medicines - http://bit.ly/A02bxu from MSF | Feb 06 17:30 | |
| fewt | right it's libappindicator now | Feb 06 17:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: THE SECRET TREATY: Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement (ACTA) and Its Impact on Access to Medicines | msfaccess.org .::. Size~: 32.23 KB | Feb 06 17:30 |
| Omega | fyi* | Feb 06 17:30 |
| Omega | fewt: You really have no idea what you're talking about right? | Feb 06 17:30 |
| DaemonFC | a copyright assignment agreement turns away many good developers and a lot of great code and ideas | Feb 06 17:30 |
| fewt | crafted and used strictly by Canonical / Ubuntu | Feb 06 17:31 |
| Omega | DaemonFC: This is a valid critique. | Feb 06 17:31 |
| DaemonFC | and Ubuntu is going down the same path with some of their stuff | Feb 06 17:31 |
| fewt | Omega: explain how I don't | Feb 06 17:31 |
| DaemonFC | it's choosing to be smaller than you could otherwise be | Feb 06 17:31 |
| fewt | Who's the author of libappindicator | Feb 06 17:31 |
| fewt | tell us | Feb 06 17:31 |
| Omega | DaemonFC: But Sun > Canonical gaaaiz!!1 is just nonsensical. | Feb 06 17:31 |
| Omega | fewt: Windicators are nothing like libappindicator. | Feb 06 17:32 |
| DaemonFC | a policy of inclusion rather than selfish code hoarding needs to be in place for an open source project to thrive | Feb 06 17:32 |
| Omega | Well let them not thrive then | Feb 06 17:32 |
| Omega | Why do we really care? | Feb 06 17:32 |
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| Omega | They want to spend their time like that, so be it? | Feb 06 17:32 |
| DaemonFC | because it drags down the reputation of "Linux" distributions everywhere | Feb 06 17:32 |
| Omega | How does it make them "worse" than anything else | Feb 06 17:32 |
| DaemonFC | when the most popular one has such bad quality | Feb 06 17:33 |
| DaemonFC | and so many bugs and missing features | Feb 06 17:33 |
| DaemonFC | so I care in an indirect way | Feb 06 17:33 |
| schestowitz | Omega: they're Canonical, an easy target | Feb 06 17:33 |
| fewt | Quote: I’d like to see it, but I’m not going to force it when I know we have other things to juggle, we already have the AppIndicators protocol all we need is a variant of that to associate the indicator with a window and a plugin for (your favourite window manager) to agree to render the indicator. - http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/10/mark-shuttleworth-talks-projcet-harmony-unity-and-more/ | Feb 06 17:33 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Mark Shuttleworth talks Project Harmony, Unity, Windicators and more .::. Size~: 174.97 KB | Feb 06 17:33 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Due diligence of negotiating criminal laws in the #ACTA process - http://bit.ly/xu1bdG a peek at the EC's dirty laundry | Feb 06 17:33 | |
| Omega | fewt: Yes. They. Do. Not. Exist. | Feb 06 17:33 |
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| DaemonFC | fewt: Other distributions need to circle the wagons | Feb 06 17:34 |
| DaemonFC | and refuse to implement this crap | Feb 06 17:34 |
| DaemonFC | force Ubuntu to carry this snowballing fork themselves | Feb 06 17:34 |
| fewt | Omega: more excuses. | Feb 06 17:34 |
| Omega | How the fuck is that an excuse? | Feb 06 17:34 |
| DaemonFC | implementing something that you're not allowed to have a stake in is a bad deal | Feb 06 17:34 |
| Omega | You're saying "who uses windicators? Ubuntu" | Feb 06 17:34 |
| Omega | When Ubuntu does not use it | Feb 06 17:34 |
| Omega | I said this and you say "it's called libappindicator now" | Feb 06 17:35 |
| Omega | Which is also untrue | Feb 06 17:35 |
| fewt | ok fine s/windicators/libappindicator/i | Feb 06 17:35 |
| Omega | But "more excuses right"? | Feb 06 17:35 |
| fewt | which will be windicators | Feb 06 17:35 |
| fewt | same outcome | Feb 06 17:35 |
| Omega | They are _nothing_ alike | Feb 06 17:35 |
| Omega | One doesn't even exist | Feb 06 17:35 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] RT @afiestas AppMenu runner almost done: http://ur1.ca/818hx time for coffee | Feb 06 17:35 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting image/png type | Feb 06 17:35 |
| fewt | same outcome | Feb 06 17:35 |
| DaemonFC | Ubuntu derivatives are acceptable to me because if someone wants to improve them, they can work upstream | Feb 06 17:35 |
| fewt | regardless if I switched them or not | Feb 06 17:35 |
| DaemonFC | and eventually every distribution pulls it in anyway | Feb 06 17:36 |
| Omega | DaemonFC: Saying "it will drag down the reputation of linux" is not an argument. | Feb 06 17:36 |
| Omega | It's subjective. | Feb 06 17:36 |
| fewt | Sun > Canonical, sorry. | Feb 06 17:36 |
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| Omega | fewt: Yeahbuddy. | Feb 06 17:36 |
| fewt | Without sun you wouldn't have OpenOffice or the GNOME HIG without Ubuntu you wouldn't have Unity and libappindicator. Which is a greator loss? | Feb 06 17:36 |
| DaemonFC | Mozilla doesn't have a copyright assignment requirement | Feb 06 17:37 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Raspbmc - XBMC Linux Distribution for #RaspberryPi Announced - http://bit.ly/zGDxuM nice move | Feb 06 17:37 | |
| DaemonFC | the only requirement is that your submission is under the terms of their tri-license | Feb 06 17:37 |
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| Omega | Do you actually think the only difference we'd see if Ubuntu wasn't here was no Unity and libappindicator? | Feb 06 17:37 |
| Omega | Do you think Linux would have as many users? | Feb 06 17:37 |
| Omega | Do you think you'd be using Linux? | Feb 06 17:37 |
| fewt | It would have as many contributors | Feb 06 17:37 |
| Omega | Prove it. | Feb 06 17:37 |
| fewt | Seriously? | Feb 06 17:38 |
| Omega | Yes. | Feb 06 17:38 |
| fewt | I've had a Linux desktop since 1995 so yes *I* would still be using "Linux". | Feb 06 17:38 |
| DaemonFC | if you write code for KDE, you're only required to license it under the same license as the module you're modifying, you retain the copyright to the code | Feb 06 17:38 |
| fewt | Would you? Probably not. | Feb 06 17:38 |
| Omega | You're delusional if you think that there would be as many contributors. | Feb 06 17:38 |
| DaemonFC | if you want to license it to someone else on different terms, that's your right as the author | Feb 06 17:38 |
| fewt | I don't need to prove it. | Feb 06 17:38 |
| DaemonFC | with Unity, you can't do that | Feb 06 17:38 |
| fewt | The contributors were there before Ubuntu | Feb 06 17:38 |
| fewt | they came from IBM, RedHat, and Sun. | Feb 06 17:38 |
| DaemonFC | you're GIVING them the rights to the code, as if they were the author | Feb 06 17:38 |
| Omega | fewt: Because you're too good for reason. | Feb 06 17:38 |
| DaemonFC | and that's not even recognized by some legal systems | Feb 06 17:38 |
| DaemonFC | such as Germany's | Feb 06 17:39 |
| Omega | Ask yourself, how many contributors have started using Linux because of Ubuntu | Feb 06 17:39 |
| Omega | Answer: many | Feb 06 17:39 |
| fewt | a few, certainly | Feb 06 17:39 |
| fewt | many? no. | Feb 06 17:39 |
| fewt | Ubuntu may have a lot of users, but it doesn't have a lot of contributors | Feb 06 17:39 |
| DaemonFC | so the whole system falls apart | Feb 06 17:39 |
| fewt | that's why you see the same names all over launchpad | Feb 06 17:39 |
| DaemonFC | and they can't even take code from people of entire countries because of that policy | Feb 06 17:39 |
| Omega | This is really stupid. | Feb 06 17:39 |
| DaemonFC | even if the author would have been willing to sign the agreement | Feb 06 17:40 |
| Omega | You are clearly not capable of backing your claims. | Feb 06 17:40 |
| Omega | So this is pointless. | Feb 06 17:40 |
| Omega | You're just another anti-ubuntu fanb01 | Feb 06 17:40 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Patents and Innovation - http://bit.ly/zhIwFY "patents are about stimulating, not rewarding, innovation" | Feb 06 17:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Sibel Edmonds' Boiling Frogs Post | The Government’s Pretexts for Arresting Virtually Anyone http://goo.gl/CTAZ8 #usa #policestate | Feb 06 17:40 | |
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| Omega | fewt: You use arch right? | Feb 06 17:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Sibel Edmonds' Boiling Frogs Post | Home of the Irate Minority .::. Size~: 35.21 KB | Feb 06 17:40 |
| DaemonFC | fewt maintains Fuduntu, and while I think some of the things it does are questionable, I believe they are at least legal | Feb 06 17:41 |
| DaemonFC | except the Mono thing which is a grey area | Feb 06 17:41 |
| Omega | Wait, ze was complaining about hacks and ze uses FUDUNTU? | Feb 06 17:42 |
| DaemonFC | but no worse than any other distribution that has ever shipped it | Feb 06 17:42 |
| Omega | Good game. | Feb 06 17:42 |
| DaemonFC | At least the upcoming Ubuntu LTS removed Mono | Feb 06 17:42 |
| DaemonFC | it still doesn't fit on a CD because of all the ridiculous demands of Unity | Feb 06 17:42 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Feb 06 17:42 |
| DaemonFC | all two complete versions of it spanning like four toolkits and numerous languages | Feb 06 17:43 |
| fewt | Omega: I created Fuduntu. | Feb 06 17:43 |
| fewt | I don't just "use it" | Feb 06 17:43 |
| Omega | Wow, wow, wow. | Feb 06 17:43 |
| Omega | I gotta watch out now. | Feb 06 17:43 |
| DaemonFC | to be fair Kubuntu doesn't fit on a CD, but that could be easily rectified by respinning it and zapping a few $20,000 toilet seats | Feb 06 17:43 |
| fewt | wow wow wow what did Omega do? | Feb 06 17:43 |
| fewt | kubuntu seems like a sane project. | Feb 06 17:44 |
| DaemonFC | there's no way to shrink Unity to a reasonable size | Feb 06 17:44 |
| Omega | fewt: Do what? | Feb 06 17:44 |
| fewt | Omega you probably aren't old enough to remember any of my Ubuntu rants | Feb 06 17:44 |
| fewt | circa 2009 | Feb 06 17:44 |
| DaemonFC | I've considered remastering Kubuntu | Feb 06 17:44 |
| Omega | fewt: Ageist too, ze does it all! | Feb 06 17:45 |
| DaemonFC | I'd have to call it something else, because of trademarks though | Feb 06 17:45 |
| DaemonFC | and it would be nice if there was something like SUSE Studio for Ubuntu | Feb 06 17:45 |
| fewt | yeah, they are pretty anal about their trademarks | Feb 06 17:45 |
| fewt | they made Eeebuntu change names | Feb 06 17:45 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] @nj3ma @kelzOKO @fredmanglis @manuel254 @mwanikimike http://www.ur1.ca/81e01 | Feb 06 17:45 | |
| fewt | which was a pretty crappy thing to to | Feb 06 17:45 |
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| fewt | s/to$/do/ | Feb 06 17:45 |
| fewt | Just another example of Canonical taking and not giving. | Feb 06 17:46 |
| DaemonFC | Kubuntu actually did one thing that I like where Fedora did something I did not like, that I feel is worth pointing out | Feb 06 17:46 |
| Omega | fewt: I guess I know where the FUD in FUDuntu comes from. | Feb 06 17:46 |
| DaemonFC | Muon is a much better package manager than Apper | Feb 06 17:46 |
| fewt | Omega: what are your contributions | Feb 06 17:46 |
| fewt | to the community | Feb 06 17:46 |
| Omega | fewt: To what? | Feb 06 17:46 |
| fewt | plz tell | Feb 06 17:46 |
| Omega | fewt: Why don't you go ahead first, like a gentleperson :) | Feb 06 17:47 |
| fewt | Jupiter | Feb 06 17:47 |
| fewt | and a Linux distribution used by thousands | Feb 06 17:47 |
| fewt | now you. | Feb 06 17:47 |
| DaemonFC | fewt: Is there a Qt frontend to that? | Feb 06 17:47 |
| fewt | Unfortunately there isn't. | Feb 06 17:47 |
| Omega | fewt: To the community as a whole. | Feb 06 17:47 |
| DaemonFC | I try not to use GTK applications unless there's really no avoiding them to get the job done well | Feb 06 17:47 |
| fewt | Omega: stop deflecting | Feb 06 17:47 |
| fewt | put up or shut up | Feb 06 17:47 |
| Omega | fewt: Why? | Feb 06 17:48 |
| DaemonFC | Seamonkey and Pidgin are a couple big examples | Feb 06 17:48 |
| Omega | Do you think you are entitles to more say because you (believe you) contributed more than me? | Feb 06 17:48 |
| Omega | entitled( | Feb 06 17:48 |
| Omega | * | Feb 06 17:48 |
| fewt | DaemonFC: Someone signed on to port Jupiter to python, but other than some beginnings it isn't ready yet. Could probably be done easily though. | Feb 06 17:48 |
| fewt | Omega: Just as I suspected. | Feb 06 17:48 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: My (commentable) speech from @MunSecConf on Internet security - everyone's responsibilit http://p.ost.im/p/eHQcgY | Feb 06 17:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @federicacocco: Interesting #opendata conference coming up in Paris http://t.co/kAwpxYr2 http://p.ost.im/p/eHALfu | Feb 06 17:48 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Feb 06 17:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Feb 06 17:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Feb 06 17:49 |
| Omega | fewt: What do you suspect? | Feb 06 17:49 |
| fewt | figure it out. | Feb 06 17:49 |
| Omega | Well, that'd be hard because I don't know how an irrational person thinks. | Feb 06 17:49 |
| fewt | I'm not irrational. | Feb 06 17:49 |
| fewt | Just more deflection | Feb 06 17:49 |
| fewt | You've got nothing. | Feb 06 17:50 |
| Omega | If you say so buddy :) | Feb 06 17:50 |
| fewt | I do say so. | Feb 06 17:50 |
| fewt | Sun > Canonical. | Feb 06 17:50 |
| fewt | Enjoy. | Feb 06 17:50 |
| Omega | You do know I hate all corporations right? | Feb 06 17:50 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @derfreitag: #ACTA: Viel Geschrei um nichts? Jurist Jens Ferner im Interview http://t.co/zqQ0I0Z1 http://p.ost.im/p/eH9Tr9 | Feb 06 17:50 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Feb 06 17:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Feb 06 17:50 |
| Omega | How is that supposed to bother me? | Feb 06 17:50 |
| DaemonFC | that's a bit extreme | Feb 06 17:50 |
| fewt | It obviously did. | Feb 06 17:50 |
| DaemonFC | I hate the ones that deserve it | Feb 06 17:50 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Feb 06 17:50 |
| fewt | I don't hate any. | Feb 06 17:51 |
| Omega | DaemonFC: Well, to be fair I hate some more than others. | Feb 06 17:51 |
| fewt | Canonical could be < Sun if they chose. | Feb 06 17:51 |
| fewt | but they choose not too which makes Sun > | Feb 06 17:51 |
| DaemonFC | It's not like Oracle is even the worst | Feb 06 17:51 |
| DaemonFC | or Apple | Feb 06 17:51 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft has done nothing for free software | Feb 06 17:51 |
| fewt | I'll agree with that. | Feb 06 17:51 |
| DaemonFC | unless it's filling it with hooks to run their proprietary software | Feb 06 17:51 |
| fewt | Their contributions are to improve Windows | Feb 06 17:52 |
| fewt | like Canonical | Feb 06 17:52 |
| fewt | and Ubuntu. | Feb 06 17:52 |
| DaemonFC | it's a big reason I moved to Seamonkey | Feb 06 17:52 |
| fewt | I've heard their new .NET is completely open source, probably to kill Mono. | Feb 06 17:52 |
| DaemonFC | most of the Seamonkey developers are Linux users | Feb 06 17:52 |
| fewt | but I can't say that with any form of certainty. | Feb 06 17:52 |
| Omega | Apple open sourced Bonjour omgomg they are better than canonical!!11 | Feb 06 17:53 |
| fewt | Apple improves webkit | Feb 06 17:53 |
| fewt | so they are | Feb 06 17:53 |
| DaemonFC | the very least I'd accept from Microsoft is a permissive free software license with an irrevocable worldwide patent grant | Feb 06 17:53 |
| Diablo-D3 | bonjour was shit code though | Feb 06 17:53 |
| DaemonFC | covering the entire thing | Feb 06 17:53 |
| Diablo-D3 | thats why avahi was written | Feb 06 17:53 |
| Diablo-D3 | seriously | Feb 06 17:53 |
| Omega | DaemonFC: How do you even communicate with hir? | Feb 06 17:54 |
| Diablo-D3 | I mean, thanks apple, I really mean it, but wow dude. | Feb 06 17:54 |
| Omega | DaemonFC: It just doesn't make sense | Feb 06 17:54 |
| DaemonFC | the "Promises" they have right now fall far from that | Feb 06 17:54 |
| Diablo-D3 | fewt: and apple "started" webkit | Feb 06 17:54 |
| Diablo-D3 | they forked konq's khtml engine | Feb 06 17:54 |
| Diablo-D3 | a lot of webkit work, however, isnt apple's, its google's | Feb 06 17:54 |
| fewt | Diablo I wasn't sure about that. | Feb 06 17:54 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, Apple was publicly shamed before they opened Webkit back up | Feb 06 17:54 |
| Diablo-D3 | although, Im thankful for both of them actually doing shit | Feb 06 17:54 |
| DaemonFC | even though they got over 90% of the code in it from KDE | Feb 06 17:54 |
| Omega | But you guys heard it right "Apple contributes to webkit so they are better than Canonical" | Feb 06 17:54 |
| DaemonFC | but, at least it happened | Feb 06 17:55 |
| Diablo-D3 | its fucking shitty when companies make really useful generic components and not open source them, or they do, and the code sucks | Feb 06 17:55 |
| DaemonFC | there's nothing unethical or wrong about using Webkit | Feb 06 17:55 |
| Omega | How do you take this person seriously? | Feb 06 17:55 |
| Diablo-D3 | Canonical is a weird case | Feb 06 17:55 |
| Diablo-D3 | they're trying to turn linux into open core | Feb 06 17:55 |
| Diablo-D3 | which not only is impossible, but it doesnt make any damned sense | Feb 06 17:55 |
| Omega | I don't think anything they have done indicated that | Feb 06 17:55 |
| Diablo-D3 | I mean, apple started with an open core design and kept it that way | Feb 06 17:55 |
| DaemonFC | KDE 5 will be using Webkit in most of the places you see KHTML now | Feb 06 17:55 |
| fewt | Omega: It's ok to be wrong once in a while. Even I am. | Feb 06 17:55 |
| DaemonFC | KHTML is considered a legacy item | Feb 06 17:55 |
| Diablo-D3 | you can bitch at apple for going open core only, I'll even join you | Feb 06 17:56 |
| Diablo-D3 | but eh | Feb 06 17:56 |
| Diablo-D3 | I dunno | Feb 06 17:56 |
| DaemonFC | it's minimally maintained, but Webkit is where it's going | Feb 06 17:56 |
| Diablo-D3 | Im going to go make a two tier shitlist | Feb 06 17:56 |
| fewt | I admitted I wasn't sure, but you go on now and pretend to be an internet tough guy Ubuntu user. | Feb 06 17:56 |
| Diablo-D3 | microsoft is at the bottom, apple and google and canonical are in the middle, all the cool people are on my like list. | Feb 06 17:56 |
| Omega | Why are you calling me a guy? | Feb 06 17:56 |
| Diablo-D3 | Omega is clearly a non-sexual. | Feb 06 17:56 |
| Diablo-D3 | Clearly. | Feb 06 17:56 |
| fewt | clearly | Feb 06 17:56 |
| DaemonFC | the Webkit KPart is actually pretty damned good | Feb 06 17:57 |
| fewt | s/non-/never-/ | Feb 06 17:57 |
| *Diablo-D3 is probably the only Debian user in here, btw :< | Feb 06 17:57 | |
| DaemonFC | the only spoiler is that Flash tends to blow it up | Feb 06 17:57 |
| Omega | fewt: It's not cool to misgender people. | Feb 06 17:57 |
| fewt | teehee | Feb 06 17:57 |
| DaemonFC | that's hardly new though | Feb 06 17:57 |
| Omega | Look, we can quarrel with eachother but let's not make this ugly. | Feb 06 17:57 |
| DaemonFC | Adobe only cares what Flash for Linux does in Mozilla or Chrome | Feb 06 17:57 |
| fewt | Omega: It was a funny | Feb 06 17:58 |
| DaemonFC | so it's been hit or miss in Konqueror, since forever | Feb 06 17:58 |
| fewt | hence the teehee | Feb 06 17:58 |
| Omega | that doesn't really make it all alright | Feb 06 17:58 |
| fewt | your problem. :D | Feb 06 17:58 |
| DaemonFC | fewt: I managed to obliterate LLVM 2.9 and replace it with symlinks to LLVM 3.0 | Feb 06 17:59 |
| fewt | nice | Feb 06 17:59 |
| DaemonFC | nothing seems to have exploded due to that yet | Feb 06 17:59 |
| Omega | How many of your users do you think would care that the author is a bigot fewt? | Feb 06 17:59 |
| fewt | Good luck proving that | Feb 06 17:59 |
| Omega | it's not a threat | Feb 06 17:59 |
| Omega | I'm asking | Feb 06 17:59 |
| DaemonFC | bigoted against what? | Feb 06 17:59 |
| fewt | .. and I'm telling. Good luck proving that. | Feb 06 18:00 |
| Diablo-D3 | Omega: what gender are you? | Feb 06 18:00 |
| fewt | Omega hasn't said | Feb 06 18:00 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] mind = blown http://ur1.ca/81e7c | Feb 06 18:00 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] \o/ #Disney pushing the boundaries of originality with a new #Muppets movie - whodathunkit? | Feb 06 18:00 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Andy Moulster - Google+ - Ok Go never fail to amaze me .::. Size~: 48.48 KB | Feb 06 18:00 |
| Omega | threatening you wouldn't get me very far, I'm trying to make you think of the implications of your action | Feb 06 18:00 |
| Diablo-D3 | I mean, its not like I give a fuck, there are no women on the internet | Feb 06 18:01 |
| Omega | I don't care enough about you to start a campaign against FUDuntu | Feb 06 18:01 |
| DaemonFC | there are, it was too much work to strap the couch to their ass to head to the mall | Feb 06 18:01 |
| fewt | oh noes you use capital F U and D | Feb 06 18:01 |
| DaemonFC | so they patronize Amazon and iVillage instead | Feb 06 18:01 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Feb 06 18:01 |
| fewt | the world will nao end. | Feb 06 18:01 |
| fewt | The implications of my action? | Feb 06 18:01 |
| Omega | I see that clearly someone is angry :) | Feb 06 18:01 |
| fewt | because I said he instead of she or it? | Feb 06 18:01 |
| fewt | I'm not angry. | Feb 06 18:02 |
| fewt | This is my laughing at you face. | Feb 06 18:02 |
| fewt | See it? | Feb 06 18:02 |
| fewt | teehee | Feb 06 18:02 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] wait.....hang on.....isn't there something already called the #Muppets? WTF! I thought movie studios were a bastion of originality :( | Feb 06 18:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Bradley #Manning nominated for #Nobel Peace Prize. If warmonger Obama can get it... - YouTube http://goo.gl/YiRw6 | Feb 06 18:02 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Bradley Manning nominated for Nobel Peace Prize. If warmonger Obama can get it... - YouTube .::. Size~: 89.46 KB | Feb 06 18:02 |
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| Omega | DaemonFC: It was nice having a rational conversation with you. | Feb 06 18:02 |
| abeNd-org | what, females actually using the internet for more than shopping? | Feb 06 18:02 |
| DaemonFC | a lot of them use Facebook | Feb 06 18:02 |
| DaemonFC | and only the feminist extremists care about the sex organs belonging to Facebook's management | Feb 06 18:03 |
| fewt | lol | Feb 06 18:03 |
| fewt | + | Feb 06 18:03 |
| fewt | Omega are you a feminist extremist? | Feb 06 18:03 |
| Omega | I don't know what you mean with that | Feb 06 18:03 |
| Omega | what do you mean with feminist | Feb 06 18:03 |
| DaemonFC | going beyond equality and into the realm of male hating psychobitch | Feb 06 18:03 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Feb 06 18:03 |
| Omega | That I strive for gender equality? | Feb 06 18:04 |
| fewt | is a feminist extremist > Canonical? | Feb 06 18:04 |
| abeNd-org | Omega: you are angry at men for everything & anything | Feb 06 18:04 |
| Omega | abeNd-org: that would be a no | Feb 06 18:04 |
| abeNd-org | Omega: even if the man is rationally innocent, emotionally he is considered guilty | Feb 06 18:04 |
| Omega | abeNd-org: do you know many people like this? | Feb 06 18:04 |
| fewt | Omega are you an alien? | Feb 06 18:04 |
| DaemonFC | it's nice that some companies do well with women in upper management | Feb 06 18:05 |
| Omega | fewt: dinosaur | Feb 06 18:05 |
| DaemonFC | good for them | Feb 06 18:05 |
| fewt | are you looking for equal rights for aliens? | Feb 06 18:05 |
| DaemonFC | they earned their spots in upper management, as individuals | Feb 06 18:05 |
| Omega | fewt: If they made contact with us, I would | Feb 06 18:05 |
| DaemonFC | not because of their sex organs | Feb 06 18:05 |
| fewt | oh dinosaur, are you saying you are an old alien? I find that insulting. | Feb 06 18:05 |
| Omega | actually, not rights per se | Feb 06 18:05 |
| Omega | welfare | Feb 06 18:05 |
| abeNd-org | Omega: "that would be most women, from what most men would say" | Feb 06 18:05 |
| Omega | abeNd-org: haha, that's silly | Feb 06 18:05 |
| fewt | Dinosaurs > Canonical | Feb 06 18:06 |
| Omega | ^ | Feb 06 18:06 |
| schestowitz | 13.04 Drunk Dinosaur | Feb 06 18:06 |
| fewt | + | Feb 06 18:06 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Male Chauvinist Pig! | Feb 06 18:06 |
| DaemonFC | *slap* | Feb 06 18:06 |
| abeNd-org | Omega: most men would then ask you "show me a rational woman, that is also not angry at all men for no real reason" | Feb 06 18:06 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: huh? | Feb 06 18:07 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Feb 06 18:07 |
| fewt | schestowitz how would you feel if someone found out the owner of #techrights was a bigot? | Feb 06 18:07 |
| DaemonFC | you didn't specify if the dinosaur was male or female | Feb 06 18:07 |
| DaemonFC | OBVIOUSLY ZOMG LEAVING IT TO THE READER TO ZOMG ASSUME IT WAS MALE!!! | Feb 06 18:07 |
| schestowitz | fewt: what are you folks talking about? | Feb 06 18:07 |
| DaemonFC | so typical....hmph | Feb 06 18:07 |
| fewt | I have no idea now | Feb 06 18:07 |
| fewt | Omega is butthurt | Feb 06 18:07 |
| schestowitz | male dinosaur? | Feb 06 18:07 |
| fewt | seriously butthurt | Feb 06 18:07 |
| DaemonFC | I knew it!!! | Feb 06 18:07 |
| DaemonFC | I KNEW IT1!! | Feb 06 18:08 |
| schestowitz | fewt: why? Did he do it with a girl and a cup? | Feb 06 18:08 |
| fewt | now he, she, or it is fun. | Feb 06 18:08 |
| fewt | maybe | Feb 06 18:08 |
| abeNd-org | ok, so what was the point of all this again? | Feb 06 18:08 |
| fewt | no way to tell without a webcam | Feb 06 18:08 |
| fewt | Sun > Canonical | Feb 06 18:08 |
| fewt | that's what | Feb 06 18:08 |
| fewt | :D | Feb 06 18:08 |
| DaemonFC | Once women stockpile enough frozen semen and turkey basters, they're going to kill us all | Feb 06 18:09 |
| DaemonFC | you do know that.... | Feb 06 18:09 |
| abeNd-org | sun is dead, & is Canonical actually contributing to the world any longer? | Feb 06 18:09 |
| fewt | oh shi- destroy all the turkey basters! | Feb 06 18:09 |
| DaemonFC | they're baiting us along | Feb 06 18:09 |
| Omega | But you can just make sperm | Feb 06 18:10 |
| Omega | (in a lab) | Feb 06 18:10 |
| DaemonFC | *knock knock* Omega ! Are you in there turkeybasting again? | Feb 06 18:11 |
| DaemonFC | You know what Goddess says about that! | Feb 06 18:12 |
| eebrah | Omega You can make sperm? | Feb 06 18:13 |
| eebrah | How? | Feb 06 18:13 |
| Omega | Google would be able to help with that. | Feb 06 18:13 |
| eebrah | !google make sperm in lab | Feb 06 18:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Sperm grown in laboratory raise hopes of male infertility treatments ... | http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2011/mar/23/sperm-grown-laboratory-male-infertility | Feb 06 18:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Scientists grow sperm in laboratory dish - Telegraph | http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/8988011/Scientists-grow-sperm-in-laboratory-dish.html | Feb 06 18:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - British scientists grow sperm in laboratory | Metro.co.uk | http://www.metro.co.uk/news/698846-british-scientists-grow-sperm-in-laboratory | Feb 06 18:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Scientists grow mouse sperm in laboratory: Can it help humans ... | http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504763_162-57351397-10391704/scientists-grow-mouse-sperm-in-laboratory-can-it-help-humans/ | Feb 06 18:14 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] is it just me or does the phrase "A Touch Of Cloth" just seem like shit? #turtlehead | Feb 06 18:15 | |
| fewt | Would an Omega + mouse sperm < or > Canonical? | Feb 06 18:20 |
| fewt | teehee | Feb 06 18:20 |
| *schestowitz leaves the channel for a few minutes, comes back, there's "sperm" all over the place | Feb 06 18:21 | |
| *fewt looks around innocently | Feb 06 18:21 | |
| Omega | fewt: Please don't associate me with torturing animals :) | Feb 06 18:22 |
| fewt | but you said | Feb 06 18:22 |
| fewt | :D | Feb 06 18:22 |
| *fewt imagines the fallout from a joke that SCO > Canonical. | Feb 06 18:24 | |
| schestowitz | SCOnical | Feb 06 18:25 |
| fewt | hah! | Feb 06 18:25 |
| fewt | (tm) | Feb 06 18:25 |
| schestowitz | Did you see Darl McBride Linked profile? | Feb 06 18:25 |
| schestowitz | it's funny | Feb 06 18:25 |
| schestowitz | there's also all the other chums from the SCO gang there | Feb 06 18:25 |
| fewt | I haven't | Feb 06 18:26 |
| fewt | but I'm going to go look for it now | Feb 06 18:26 |
| fewt | wow, he's connected to some prominent people | Feb 06 18:27 |
| fewt | Entrepreneur @ Me Inc | Feb 06 18:27 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Dacre rejects the allegation that they hacked #HughGrant's phone; cue a #Wikileaks release proving Grant was right #MailOnSunday | Feb 06 18:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] Zuckerberg is Spot On with Hacker Way, But Linux Community Already Knew That: http://bit.ly/wEhGjZ << by @jzemlin | Feb 06 18:35 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Feb 06 18:35 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] France impounds African autocrats' 'ill-gotten gains' http://gu.com/p/35xm6 | Feb 06 18:40 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: France impounds African autocrats' 'ill-gotten gains' | World news | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 111.84 KB | Feb 06 18:40 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] Some Blacks Insist: 'Don't Call Me #AfricanAmerican' http://ur1.ca/81eiu Just like I'd insist: don't call me #HispanicAmerican. | Feb 06 18:42 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Black or African-American? - Jesse Washington, AP National Writer/Race and Ethnicity .::. Size~: 20.64 KB | Feb 06 18:42 |
| fewt | Mcbride may well be the most unemployable man in America. | Feb 06 18:43 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] General Synod: the perfect forum for Anglicans who want to avoid decisions http://gu.com/p/35avq | Feb 06 18:43 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: General Synod: the perfect forum for Anglicans who want to avoid decisions | Andrew Brown | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 152.15 KB | Feb 06 18:44 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Security advisories for Monday http://ur1.ca/81est | Feb 06 18:52 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Reddit: How the site went from a second-tier aggregator to the Web’s unstoppable force (Slate): http://slate.me/yVeJCU | Feb 06 18:53 | |
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| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer destroyed Bob's base in War Commander! | Feb 06 19:02 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] ACTA's back by @webmink | http://red.ht/z8Is4P #pipa #sopa #IP #copyright | Feb 06 19:02 | |
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| DaemonFC | I won the War On Bob | Feb 06 19:02 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Feb 06 19:02 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Identi.ca, I missed you! | Feb 06 19:03 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Answering questions of #Debian users on various support channels http://goo.gl/r2lWG #gnulinux | Feb 06 19:07 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Petter Reinholdtsen: Setting up a new school with #Debian Edu/Squeeze http://goo.gl/LNEmo #flosstools #education #gnulinux | Feb 06 19:10 | |
| scientes | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNBkxA313kk | Feb 06 19:10 |
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| scientes | SPDY==mandatory SSL | Feb 06 19:10 |
| DaemonFC | I need to go get a new tire | Feb 06 19:11 |
| DaemonFC | *sigh | Feb 06 19:11 |
| fewt | what happened to your tire? | Feb 06 19:11 |
| DaemonFC | might as well replace both of the fronts, they're getting low on tread anyway | Feb 06 19:11 |
| fewt | I had to get one plugged a few months ago, I wasn't happy - it was a new tire. | Feb 06 19:11 |
| DaemonFC | puncture to the sidewall of the passenger tire | Feb 06 19:12 |
| DaemonFC | I'm not too mad | Feb 06 19:12 |
| fewt | ouch, sorry | Feb 06 19:12 |
| DaemonFC | it only had about 30% of the treat on it anyway | Feb 06 19:12 |
| DaemonFC | *tread | Feb 06 19:12 |
| fewt | ahh | Feb 06 19:12 |
| DaemonFC | I replace them at 20% anyway | Feb 06 19:13 |
| DaemonFC | so it would have been April or May that it got replaced if it didn't get punctured | Feb 06 19:13 |
| fewt | fair enough | Feb 06 19:13 |
| DaemonFC | bbiab I guess :) | Feb 06 19:13 |
| DaemonFC | may as well get an oil change while I'm there | Feb 06 19:13 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] The Real Goal Of Regulating Buffer Copies? So Hollywood Can Put A Tollbooth On Innovation http://goo.gl/pGTvW #WTF? | Feb 06 19:20 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The Real Goal Of Regulating Buffer Copies? So Hollywood Can Put A Tollbooth On Innovation | Techdirt .::. Size~: 62.73 KB | Feb 06 19:20 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] The Coroner in Charge of the Investigation of Amy Winehouse's Death Resigns | The Vigilant Citizen http://goo.gl/JvP00 #xfiles #vc | Feb 06 19:25 | |
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| *schestowitz sets up LDAP server with passwordless login for overnight synch | Feb 06 19:27 | |
| scientes | hot | Feb 06 19:30 |
| scientes | is it easy to deploy LDAP and kerebos seperately | Feb 06 19:31 |
| scientes | I was thinking the way to do it would be FreeIPA, however I havn't tried as I use debian/ubuntu | Feb 06 19:31 |
| scientes | do you know how it works to put SSL certificates in DNSSEC and therefore get 0 RT SSL? | Feb 06 19:31 |
| scientes | hmm SPDY uses length-of-string encoding rather than NULL-terminalted | Feb 06 19:35 |
| MinceR | so how long is the maximum? :> | Feb 06 19:37 |
| scientes | ^^^, don | Feb 06 19:38 |
| scientes | know | Feb 06 19:38 |
| scientes | was thinking you could do it like UTF-8 if you were clever | Feb 06 19:38 |
| MinceR | HTTP isn't null-terminated either, though -- it's plaintext :> | Feb 06 19:38 |
| scientes | 7-bit encoded length, with 1 bit to say if you should look at the next byte for more data | Feb 06 19:38 |
| koolhead17 | hola folks | Feb 06 19:38 |
| scientes | on what length the string is | Feb 06 19:38 |
| MinceR | or you could have subsequent chunks of strings with max length | Feb 06 19:38 |
| koolhead17 | schestowitz sir | Feb 06 19:39 |
| scientes | MinceR, yes, HTTP is \n terminated | Feb 06 19:39 |
| schestowitz | yo | Feb 06 19:39 |
| MinceR | isn't HTTP \r\n-terminated? | Feb 06 19:39 |
| scientes | ahh, you are probably right | Feb 06 19:39 |
| scientes | however, I've made netcat work with just \n s | Feb 06 19:39 |
| koolhead17 | how are things? did you checked the url o posted? Indian court asks about the clinical trial incidents in india | Feb 06 19:39 |
| scientes | but i am only doing one request | Feb 06 19:39 |
| schestowitz | koolhead17: rms mailed me from India | Feb 06 19:39 |
| schestowitz | did you speak to him? | Feb 06 19:39 |
| koolhead17 | schestowitz yes i met him. i have joined FSF-india | Feb 06 19:40 |
| koolhead17 | membership | Feb 06 19:40 |
| schestowitz | cool | Feb 06 19:40 |
| koolhead17 | schestowitz its not very active | Feb 06 19:40 |
| schestowitz | you can create techrights india ;-) | Feb 06 19:40 |
| koolhead17 | schestowitz i would love to, but my current job has many restrictions i guess | Feb 06 19:41 |
| koolhead17 | :P | Feb 06 19:41 |
| schestowitz | like drm | Feb 06 19:41 |
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| schestowitz | jobs restrictions managers | Feb 06 19:41 |
| koolhead17 | schestowitz i mean i donno how my company folks will react to it | Feb 06 19:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] GRC | #OpenVPN HOWTO Guide: Routing vs Bridging http://goo.gl/rQTok #tips | Feb 06 19:42 | |
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| koolhead17 | i am looking forward to see how i can contribute to techrights india | Feb 06 19:42 |
| koolhead17 | :P | Feb 06 19:42 |
| koolhead17 | tell me what/how we can plan | Feb 06 19:42 |
| koolhead17 | i can get stuff done | Feb 06 19:42 |
| fewt | Maybe start with an article about how mouse sperm implantations with turkey basters threatens the male population. | Feb 06 19:43 |
| *fewt laughs out loud | Feb 06 19:43 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] تحليل @EFF لسياسة الخصوصية الجديدة لدى Google - شكراً لـ @7iber للترجمة https://eff.org/r.5R4 | Feb 06 19:43 | |
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| koolhead17 | fewt: your funny!! | Feb 06 19:44 |
| fewt | :D | Feb 06 19:45 |
| koolhead17 | you meant how azure came to existence!! | Feb 06 19:45 |
| schestowitz | koolhead17: can create a domain for articles in Hindi and channel Indian readers to it | Feb 06 19:47 |
| koolhead17 | schestowitz not all indians read hindi unfortunately | Feb 06 19:48 |
| schestowitz | !google zune squirts | Feb 06 19:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Zune 'squirts,' apparently | The Microsoft Blog - seattlepi.com | http://blog.seattlepi.com/microsoft/2006/11/20/zune-squirts-apparently/ | Feb 06 19:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Zune "Squirt" Feature Returning As Beaming? | | http://www.windows8update.com/2011/12/08/zune-squirt-feature-returning-as-beaming/ | Feb 06 19:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Microsoft squirts new Zune hardware, features — Mobile ... | http://gigaom.com/mobile/microsoft-squir/ | Feb 06 19:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Microsoft reportedly discontinues the Zune; in music devices as in ... | http://www.tinymixtapes.com/news/microsoft-reportedly-discontinues-zune-music-devices-life-all-your-squirts-were-vain | Feb 06 19:48 |
| schestowitz | koolhead17: some Tamil | Feb 06 19:48 |
| schestowitz | It's all confusing to me | Feb 06 19:48 |
| schestowitz | I think Belgium is one of the few countries in the West with multiple languages, not just dialects | Feb 06 19:48 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is thistleweb from identi.ca with 103 dents! | Feb 06 19:48 | |
| schestowitz | then you have China and the Philippines with their many languages | Feb 06 19:49 |
| koolhead17 | schestowitz tamil/telegu/malyalam/gujrati | Feb 06 19:49 |
| koolhead17 | and 18 other | Feb 06 19:49 |
| koolhead17 | :P | Feb 06 19:49 |
| koolhead17 | schestowitz keeps all united :P | Feb 06 19:51 |
| scientes | http://redmine.lighttpd.net/search?issues=1&q=SPDY == wontfix | Feb 06 19:52 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] 10 Shattered Myths About Workplace Rights http://ur1.ca/81fnd | Feb 06 19:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Univ of California Santa Cruz Library adopts #CC BY for all library-produced content! http://bit.ly/ADc7OJ | Feb 06 19:57 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Stable kernels 3.0.20 and 3.2.5 http://ur1.ca/81fpq | Feb 06 20:03 | |
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| fewt | 3.2.5 already? | Feb 06 20:10 |
| fewt | oooh aspm fix | Feb 06 20:11 |
| fewt | 3.2.4 was a one patch change too wasn't it? | Feb 06 20:11 |
| fewt | no, 3.2.4 was a 2 patch change | Feb 06 20:12 |
| fewt | 4 days, 3 kernel releases. | Feb 06 20:13 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] Thanks to Amazon for sending me 11 identical emails about a product recall. | Feb 06 20:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Mueller: Apple's iterative approach to FRAND abuse is not for the faint of heart http://ur1.ca/81fu1 | Feb 06 20:18 | |
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| schestowitz | why does lwn feed the ms lobbyist? | Feb 06 20:20 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Injunction 'terrified' Jeremy Clarkson's ex-wife http://goo.gl/xqa3G | Feb 06 20:20 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] OK Go Shows, Once Again, How Content Is Advertising... And How There Are Many Revenue Streams For Musicians http://goo.gl/tMD3N | Feb 06 20:57 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] Matt Lee is attending LibrePlanet 2012. | Feb 06 21:33 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] RT @rms China http://ur1.ca/81eh3 | Feb 06 21:37 | |
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| scientes | schestowitz, what do you think? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ocq6_3-nEw | Feb 06 21:38 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] RT @glynmoody Open Source Tackles Healthcare In Places Microsoft Can’t - http://bit.ly/x2KI36 good intro to OpenMRS | Feb 06 21:38 | |
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| scientes | also, IBM linux commercial sucked in comparison with red hat "truth happens" commercial | Feb 06 21:41 |
| scientes | "Patent applications submitted" yuck | Feb 06 21:44 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Greek PM Demands Report On Default, Eurozone Exit Consequences | ZeroHedge http://goo.gl/pkjOF #greece #collapse | Feb 06 21:55 | |
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| DaemonFC | $84 x 2 for tires | Feb 06 22:18 |
| DaemonFC | and $26 for an oil change | Feb 06 22:18 |
| DaemonFC | ouch | Feb 06 22:18 |
| abeNd-org | thats cheap for the tires, at least around here | Feb 06 22:20 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: Ballmer has tires | Feb 06 22:22 |
| schestowitz | It's BOGOF | Feb 06 22:22 |
| schestowitz | as in free beer | Feb 06 22:22 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, they're "Walmart brand" tires | Feb 06 22:23 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/90127272 | Feb 06 22:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Børge A. Roum (forteller)'s status on Monday, 06-Feb-12 17:19:57 UTC - Identi.ca: RT @schestowitz: Five open source hardware projects that could change the world http://goo.gl/cuAtL #openhardware | Feb 06 22:23 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: they're fake | Feb 06 22:23 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | @foonetic (lnxwalt) (lnxwalt)'s status on Sunday, 05-Feb-12 15:56:02 UTC - IMICROBLOG: Intelligent Microblogging: @schestowitz As attested here: http://2tu.us/446e and http://2tu.us/446f | Feb 06 22:23 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz You can go to other shops and you'll usually find that their cheapest tires are about $130-$150 each | Feb 06 22:24 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/redxine/status/166213248587268097 | Feb 06 22:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @redxine: RT @schestowitz #AngryBirds For Chrome Gets Rid Of #AdobeTrash http://t.co/gy1IU161 adobe-flash #trash | Feb 06 22:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Feb 06 22:24 |
| DaemonFC | last time I had Walmart replace all four at once was 2005 | Feb 06 22:27 |
| DaemonFC | and the guy didn't use the right tire weights on them | Feb 06 22:27 |
| prurigro | lol | Feb 06 22:27 |
| DaemonFC | so I got up to about 60, and the car started going "wump wump wump wump wump" | Feb 06 22:27 |
| prurigro | those guys get paid barely more than minimum | Feb 06 22:27 |
| DaemonFC | I drove back to the store | Feb 06 22:28 |
| DaemonFC | they told me I was going to have to wait three hours to have them fix their mistake | Feb 06 22:28 |
| prurigro | good thing it wasn't more serious | Feb 06 22:28 |
| DaemonFC | (I had to be somewhere in 2 and I assumed that they would do it right the first time) | Feb 06 22:28 |
| prurigro | lol, a reasonable assumption | Feb 06 22:28 |
| DaemonFC | after enough bitching and threatening to call the district manager right there, they bumped me to the front of the line | Feb 06 22:28 |
| prurigro | but I suppose as the old saying goes, if you want something done right | Feb 06 22:29 |
| *prurigro gives voice to DaemonFC | Feb 06 22:29 | |
| DaemonFC | and fixed it in about 10 minutes | Feb 06 22:29 |
| *prurigro gives voice to Diablo-D3 | Feb 06 22:29 | |
| DaemonFC | prurigro: If they don't like what they're being paid, they shouldn't take it out on their customer by doing a half assed job | Feb 06 22:29 |
| DaemonFC | they should find another job | Feb 06 22:29 |
| prurigro | I wasn't necessarily saying they were being malicious | Feb 06 22:30 |
| DaemonFC | besides, having been a salary manager at Walmart before, I know what they pay those people | Feb 06 22:30 |
| prurigro | but if they had any idea what they were doing, couldn't they find a place that paid them more? | Feb 06 22:30 |
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| DaemonFC | and it's not that much less than those shops that gouge the customer pay their employees | Feb 06 22:30 |
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| prurigro | yea, its usually the head mechanic isn't it | Feb 06 22:31 |
| prurigro | though at least everyone can aspire to eventually become a head mechanic | Feb 06 22:31 |
| DaemonFC | When I worked there, the policy was to base pay for each job based on what the typical wage was in the area for a job like that | Feb 06 22:31 |
| prurigro | oh? | Feb 06 22:31 |
| prurigro | at walmart? | Feb 06 22:31 |
| DaemonFC | and you could add a certain amount to that for each year of experience the new hire had in that particular job category | Feb 06 22:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Check out our NYTX Advisory Council which includes Julian Assange, Richard Falk, Phyllis Bennis, and many more: http://t.co/BhZvRJqb | Feb 06 22:32 | |
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| DaemonFC | so the TLE might start a bay technician out at $9.50 an hour, but it will bump up the starting wage about 5% for each year of experience he or she has had elsewhere | Feb 06 22:32 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, at Walmart | Feb 06 22:32 |
| DaemonFC | so it's entirely possible that someone could start out in that position and make more than the dedicated tire and oil change shop down the street | Feb 06 22:33 |
| DaemonFC | just because they might have a different policy | Feb 06 22:33 |
| DaemonFC | they might say "We start EVERYONE out at $10 an hour" | Feb 06 22:33 |
| DaemonFC | OK, but if you worked for them for a few years and came to Walmart, you'd start out at more than that | Feb 06 22:34 |
| DaemonFC | so it's common that people who have worked at other shops and got tired of going year after year with a small cost of living raise (or none) will get fed up and come to the Walmart TLE shop for a better wage | Feb 06 22:34 |
| DaemonFC | which is the opposite of what you'd think about Walmart | Feb 06 22:35 |
| DaemonFC | which is, someone puts in their time there for experience and then leaves | Feb 06 22:35 |
| DaemonFC | that happens too, but it's not the way it usually happens | Feb 06 22:35 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] ♻ @doctorreason: Γιααααα να ετοιμαζόμαστε http://identi.ca/url/66148012 | Feb 06 22:35 | |
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| DaemonFC | Walmart also counts experience as having worked at Walmart before | Feb 06 22:36 |
| DaemonFC | so if I went back and started as an assistant manager again, my start out salary would be about 10% more than they'd start anyone else at | Feb 06 22:37 |
| DaemonFC | prurigro: The pay policy at the Walmart I was at was much higher than typical | Feb 06 22:38 |
| DaemonFC | a lot of the other grocery stores were unionized | Feb 06 22:38 |
| DaemonFC | and so was the Meijer store on the other side of town | Feb 06 22:38 |
| DaemonFC | so we had to base our pay on union wages at other stores | Feb 06 22:38 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Feb 06 22:38 |
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| DaemonFC | and that actually brought the store's base hourly starting rate (lowest paying job, no shift differential, not counting any previous retail experience, and so on) up from $6.95 an hour to $8.75 an hour | Feb 06 22:39 |
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| DaemonFC | minimum wage at that time was $5.25 | Feb 06 22:40 |
| DaemonFC | but as unions continue to be attacked by the Republicans controlling Indiana, the wages go down | Feb 06 22:40 |
| DaemonFC | and even people who were benefiting indirectly from other shops that were unionized, are getting their pay cut | Feb 06 22:40 |
| DaemonFC | so the Walmart base rate at the same store, last I knew, had actually sank to what is now $7.50 an hour | Feb 06 22:41 |
| prurigro | man, 10 dollars an hour? | Feb 06 22:41 |
| prurigro | and that's good? | Feb 06 22:41 |
| DaemonFC | and considering 3-4% inflation every year | Feb 06 22:41 |
| DaemonFC | that actually matches what $7 an hour would have been when I was there | Feb 06 22:41 |
| prurigro | shit though, that's like so little money-- and minimum is like nothing | Feb 06 22:42 |
| prurigro | how is someone supposed to survive on that? | Feb 06 22:42 |
| DaemonFC | so the attack on unions have destroyed over 10% of the buying power of a typical Walmart employee in this area | Feb 06 22:42 |
| DaemonFC | it's something of a dirty secret that Walmart benefits from union killing laws, even though none of its stores are unionized | Feb 06 22:42 |
| DaemonFC | prurigro: minimum wage's high point in the United States was actually in the year 1968 | Feb 06 22:43 |
| DaemonFC | when, inflation adjusted, it represented about $9 an hour in today's US dollars | Feb 06 22:43 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Madonna's Superbowl Halftime Show: A Celebration of the Grand Priestess of the Music Industry |TheVigilantCitizen http://goo.gl/txCqz #vc | Feb 06 22:43 | |
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| DaemonFC | but today's minimum wage is only $7.25 an hour | Feb 06 22:44 |
| DaemonFC | every attempt to peg minimum wage to inflation gets shot down | Feb 06 22:44 |
| prurigro | man, that's terrible | Feb 06 22:44 |
| DaemonFC | so it goes up at a rate that is so slow, it is still stripped away by inflation many times over | Feb 06 22:44 |
| prurigro | I dunno about down there, but up here the poverty line is considered 13.50/hr | Feb 06 22:45 |
| prurigro | at 37.5hours per week | Feb 06 22:45 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, you save some money at Walmart | Feb 06 22:45 |
| DaemonFC | then you end up paying for the state to give their employees food stamps | Feb 06 22:45 |
| DaemonFC | and medicaid | Feb 06 22:45 |
| DaemonFC | so Walmart is a parasite on the social safety net | Feb 06 22:45 |
| DaemonFC | at one point, they were actually caught passing out literature on how to get on state poverty relief programs to their employees | Feb 06 22:46 |
| DaemonFC | and the CEO at that time said that Medicaid was so lucrative, that they couldn't be bothered to "compete" with it | Feb 06 22:46 |
| DaemonFC | COMPETE | Feb 06 22:46 |
| DaemonFC | with something that is designed for people who are disabled and in dire poverty | Feb 06 22:47 |
| fewt | Walmart is a company that I could live without. | Feb 06 22:47 |
| DaemonFC | fewt: I got out of there for numerous reasons | Feb 06 22:47 |
| DaemonFC | it wasn't the job from hell | Feb 06 22:47 |
| DaemonFC | but I could do better | Feb 06 22:47 |
| DaemonFC | ;) | Feb 06 22:47 |
| fewt | + | Feb 06 22:47 |
| DaemonFC | that's why I said, if you don't like it, strive to do better | Feb 06 22:48 |
| DaemonFC | don't take it out on a customer, just leave and go somewhere else | Feb 06 22:48 |
| DaemonFC | get some education, some job training, something | Feb 06 22:48 |
| prurigro | I hear McDonalds has a similar strategy | Feb 06 22:48 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Just 3 days left to sign on to @bunniestudios' letter. Patch the #DMCA and defend the right to jailbreak. https://eff.org/r.5R5 | Feb 06 22:48 | |
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| prurigro | your taxes going to pay their employees, and to subsidize the low price they pay for food etc | Feb 06 22:49 |
| DaemonFC | there are so many free or heavily subsidized job training programs that people on a Walmart wage qualify for | Feb 06 22:49 |
| DaemonFC | they should really stop complaining and make use of it | Feb 06 22:49 |
| DaemonFC | invest something in themselves | Feb 06 22:49 |
| DaemonFC | move up the chain a bit | Feb 06 22:49 |
| prurigro | unless they're not complaining, and are actually just incompetent | Feb 06 22:49 |
| DaemonFC | then that meets the definition of the other "rule" | Feb 06 22:49 |
| DaemonFC | water finds its own level | Feb 06 22:50 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Feb 06 22:50 |
| prurigro | haha | Feb 06 22:50 |
| prurigro | or at least it settles there | Feb 06 22:51 |
| DaemonFC | it's hard for me to weigh how much of it is Walmart being scum, and how much of it is employees who don't want to do better and are getting what they deserve | Feb 06 22:51 |
| DaemonFC | I'm sure it's some of each | Feb 06 22:51 |
| prurigro | well Walmart creates the culture | Feb 06 22:51 |
| DaemonFC | I think the healthcare law will remedy some of the Walmart problem | Feb 06 22:51 |
| prurigro | you have those dumbasses rioting in England, and they're actually just unsavoury characters, but they were made that way by the culture that screwed their parents over and now they have to live with them | Feb 06 22:51 |
| DaemonFC | either they get more employees off the system and into their own health insurance group plan | Feb 06 22:52 |
| prurigro | hopefully it actually works, the republicans twisted it in to a horrible mess of what it was supposed to be | Feb 06 22:52 |
| DaemonFC | or they start paying penalties to subsidize the Medicaid benefits their employees take | Feb 06 22:52 |
| DaemonFC | I do like that part | Feb 06 22:52 |
| DaemonFC | the law is written so they can't just evade it by cutting everyone's hours and calling them part time | Feb 06 22:53 |
| DaemonFC | which is what they usually do to get out of providing benefits | Feb 06 22:53 |
| DaemonFC | that strategy would actually increase their penalties | Feb 06 22:53 |
| abeNd-org | work more, get less, woo! | Feb 06 22:53 |
| DaemonFC | because the law considers number of employees and total hours worked | Feb 06 22:53 |
| DaemonFC | not what you call them | Feb 06 22:53 |
| abeNd-org | fight against working more, be out of work, woo! | Feb 06 22:53 |
| prurigro | ahh I see what you mean | Feb 06 22:53 |
| prurigro | it doesn't matter how good it is, because it fixes things at the other ehdn | Feb 06 22:54 |
| prurigro | end* | Feb 06 22:54 |
| DaemonFC | it fixes the problem of Walmart being a leech that provides no health insurance at all and dumps all their employees onto the system | Feb 06 22:54 |
| DaemonFC | and that's exactly the kind of law they were trying to kill off via their lobbyists to Congress | Feb 06 22:55 |
| DaemonFC | but it made it through anyway | Feb 06 22:55 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Running an unencrypted wireless network could be seen as negligence, Liberty Media argues (CW): http://bit.ly/yIVRz8 | Feb 06 22:55 | |
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| DaemonFC | prurigro: Indiana is one of the states with a broken law that was meant to stop that | Feb 06 22:57 |
| DaemonFC | it says that if employees work more than 34 hours a week, they are full time and you have to let them in to your group plan | Feb 06 22:57 |
| prurigro | so noone has a stable job | Feb 06 22:57 |
| prurigro | ? | Feb 06 22:57 |
| DaemonFC | so Walmart solved that by giving everyone no more than 33.5 hours a week | Feb 06 22:57 |
| DaemonFC | and not offering them anything | Feb 06 22:57 |
| DaemonFC | so now, not only do they not get health insurance | Feb 06 22:58 |
| DaemonFC | they get less hours too | Feb 06 22:58 |
| DaemonFC | and less pay | Feb 06 22:58 |
| DaemonFC | it gets worse | Feb 06 22:59 |
| DaemonFC | just because you're on the schedule that day doesn't mean they can't tell you to go back home after you've already driven all the way over there | Feb 06 22:59 |
| DaemonFC | or send you home early to save a few bucks | Feb 06 22:59 |
| DaemonFC | so sometimes the managers will be cutting payroll to inflate their year end bonus | Feb 06 23:00 |
| DaemonFC | and the hourly employees show up thinking they're going to work a full 8 hours or something' | Feb 06 23:00 |
| DaemonFC | and the managers decide to cut them to a half shift with no advance notice | Feb 06 23:00 |
| DaemonFC | when I say managers, I mean co, store, and district | Feb 06 23:01 |
| prurigro | seriously? you don't have laws against that? | Feb 06 23:01 |
| DaemonFC | the assistant managers don't care what the bonus pool is because they get the same cut as hourly employees | Feb 06 23:01 |
| prurigro | like, here, if you get called in for a shift and sent home | Feb 06 23:01 |
| prurigro | they have to pay you for a minimum of 3 hours | Feb 06 23:01 |
| DaemonFC | either they get one or they don't | Feb 06 23:01 |
| prurigro | if it was a 3+ hour shift | Feb 06 23:01 |
| prurigro | or something | Feb 06 23:01 |
| DaemonFC | and if they do, it's usually never more than $200 | Feb 06 23:01 |
| DaemonFC | they like to figure in all their costs of doing business in the calculation of how much profit the store made that year | Feb 06 23:02 |
| DaemonFC | and thus, what the bonus pool will be | Feb 06 23:02 |
| DaemonFC | so the co, store, and district managers make money even if the stores they oversee lose money | Feb 06 23:02 |
| DaemonFC | they get a minimum bonus amount | Feb 06 23:03 |
| DaemonFC | no matter what the stores are doing | Feb 06 23:03 |
| DaemonFC | and for a store manager, that usually comes out to about $40,000 | Feb 06 23:03 |
| DaemonFC | then if the store made a profit, they get another 2% of whatever the profit was | Feb 06 23:04 |
| DaemonFC | so the company itself is trying to use hollywood accounting so they don't pay out much bonus money | Feb 06 23:04 |
| DaemonFC | and the upper management of stores and regions are trying to push back | Feb 06 23:04 |
| DaemonFC | by cutting payroll | Feb 06 23:04 |
| DaemonFC | and doing all kinds of penny pinching | Feb 06 23:04 |
| DaemonFC | and in the end, for them to max out their bonus, it requires them to attack the workers | Feb 06 23:05 |
| DaemonFC | and that's the point | Feb 06 23:05 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Paul Dacre has effectively called for journalists to be licenced in Britain. BBC reporter was funny he said Dacre was in touch with the .. | Feb 06 23:05 | |
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| DaemonFC | they figure in every loss or expense against the bonus pool | Feb 06 23:05 |
| DaemonFC | kid comes in and steals a $20 video game | Feb 06 23:05 |
| DaemonFC | $20 comes out of the bonus pool | Feb 06 23:05 |
| DaemonFC | payroll goes over budget, everything over comes out of the bonus pool | Feb 06 23:06 |
| DaemonFC | store does a remodel or goes from regular store to super store, nobody but the co and store maangers get a bonus for at least 5-6 years | Feb 06 23:06 |
| DaemonFC | so the bonus is largely theoretical if you're an hourly employee or an assistant manager | Feb 06 23:07 |
| DaemonFC | and when they talk about making sure the bonus pool is full, they're really talking about $60,000 for the store manager and maybe $100 for you | Feb 06 23:07 |
| DaemonFC | after they just cut your hours enough that you lost more than $1,000 | Feb 06 23:08 |
| DaemonFC | they're wicked | Feb 06 23:08 |
| DaemonFC | they put in incentives for their store managers to be even more cruel than they otherwise would be | Feb 06 23:08 |
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| prurigro | its funny, I was reading about costco's business model | Feb 06 23:10 |
| prurigro | the other day | Feb 06 23:10 |
| prurigro | apparently they don't spend a penny on advertising, and with that money, they give benefits and additional pay to their employees, perks through year, and make sure they have enough employees to comfortably handle any rush that might be coming or what have you | Feb 06 23:11 |
| prurigro | and they count on their employees to be happy enough with them to do the equiv of advertising, by saying good things about their place of work etc | Feb 06 23:12 |
| prurigro | DaemonFC, I gotta say, out of the two business models-- I like costco's way more | Feb 06 23:13 |
| *prurigro gives channel operator status to DaemonFC | Feb 06 23:14 | |
| MinceR | gn | Feb 06 23:18 |
| prurigro | MinceR, night | Feb 06 23:18 |
| DaemonFC | yeah | Feb 06 23:22 |
| DaemonFC | ALDI is similar | Feb 06 23:22 |
| DaemonFC | they don't spend much on marketing | Feb 06 23:22 |
| DaemonFC | they scrimp and save in some obvious places | Feb 06 23:23 |
| DaemonFC | but they pay their employees well | Feb 06 23:23 |
| prurigro | I think that's the key to a good business-- I mean, people want to support things that make society better, typically | Feb 06 23:24 |
| DaemonFC | ALDI actually lists their starting wage in their employment advertisements | Feb 06 23:25 |
| DaemonFC | for a cashier/stocker at the store here in town, start out is $11.50 an hour | Feb 06 23:25 |
| DaemonFC | Walmart tends to pay their third shift stockers about $8 an hour on average | Feb 06 23:26 |
| DaemonFC | they have a tiered system from 1-7 on hourly employees | Feb 06 23:26 |
| DaemonFC | 1 is the lowest, 7 is the highest | Feb 06 23:27 |
| DaemonFC | each tier gets you another 15 cents an hour | Feb 06 23:27 |
| DaemonFC | they classify their dry grocery stockers as 2 | Feb 06 23:27 |
| DaemonFC | and they do a 50 cent overnight differential, used to be $1 | Feb 06 23:27 |
| DaemonFC | so after all that, you'd start around $8 an hour | Feb 06 23:27 |
| DaemonFC | which is pathetic | Feb 06 23:28 |
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| prurigro | lol, 15 cents an hour is supposed to feel like a perk eh | Feb 06 23:29 |
| DaemonFC | you end up with employees that are unmotivated | Feb 06 23:29 |
| DaemonFC | don't show up | Feb 06 23:29 |
| prurigro | no kidding | Feb 06 23:29 |
| DaemonFC | quit without notice | Feb 06 23:29 |
| DaemonFC | can't get a ride to work or their car is so old, it broke down and they have no way to get to work | Feb 06 23:30 |
| prurigro | manual labour productivity increases as pay increases | Feb 06 23:30 |
| prurigro | and yea, seriously | Feb 06 23:30 |
| DaemonFC | they figure they have a limitless supply of unskilled labor | Feb 06 23:30 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: that hardly outpaces even the inflation | Feb 06 23:30 |
| prurigro | or maybe they realize they're paying their babysitter more than they're earing | Feb 06 23:30 |
| prurigro | earning* | Feb 06 23:30 |
| schestowitz | wages have declined, not just stagnated | Feb 06 23:30 |
| DaemonFC | they'll pay them bad, they'll accept the high turnover | Feb 06 23:30 |
| schestowitz | prurigro: or they don't reproduce anymore | Feb 06 23:31 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, the bills go up and your pay goes down | Feb 06 23:31 |
| schestowitz | or use their parents for free babysitting | Feb 06 23:31 |
| schestowitz | that's becoming a common exploittaion | Feb 06 23:31 |
| prurigro | true | Feb 06 23:31 |
| schestowitz | "free" | Feb 06 23:31 |
| schestowitz | as in "suck up" | Feb 06 23:31 |
| prurigro | libido and fertility both go down as stress goes up | Feb 06 23:31 |
| schestowitz | free labou society | Feb 06 23:31 |
| schestowitz | and with no cleaners in the house guess what people do over the weekend? | Feb 06 23:32 |
| prurigro | the core libertarian ideals are fantastic, but only in terms of people vs people | Feb 06 23:32 |
| prurigro | as soon as you bring the market and business into play, everything falls apart | Feb 06 23:32 |
| schestowitz | laundry, car wash, haircut, etc. So much for a time to rest | Feb 06 23:32 |
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| DaemonFC | you assume that they get days off | Feb 06 23:33 |
| DaemonFC | and not just hours at work spread over 7 days a week | Feb 06 23:33 |
| schestowitz | what's worse these days is when employers give "free" tracking devices that they call phones and they use them to harass you even when you're on vacation | Feb 06 23:33 |
| DaemonFC | or intimidate their employees into not taking their vacation | Feb 06 23:34 |
| DaemonFC | or just don't give them any vacation | Feb 06 23:34 |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC: hehe | Feb 06 23:34 |
| schestowitz | if you don't use em, you lose em | Feb 06 23:34 |
| schestowitz | if you use em, might lose that job | Feb 06 23:34 |
| DaemonFC | if you use them, there will be......consequences | Feb 06 23:34 |
| DaemonFC | ;) | Feb 06 23:34 |
| schestowitz | "Little Ronnie is very tenacious, you know what happens when we choose who most make the cut.." | Feb 06 23:35 |
| DaemonFC | I had one job where I was working 50-60 hours a week | Feb 06 23:35 |
| DaemonFC | and I finally asked for a vacation day | Feb 06 23:35 |
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| DaemonFC | and they tried to "shame" me for taking it | Feb 06 23:35 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: "what? you need a break from work? All right, then, I guess, you're legally entitled... those protesters earned that right." | Feb 06 23:35 |
| DaemonFC | whatever | Feb 06 23:35 |
| schestowitz | 60 hours a week is a lot | Feb 06 23:36 |
| schestowitz | does that include: | Feb 06 23:36 |
| schestowitz | 1. shower | Feb 06 23:36 |
| schestowitz | 2.shave | Feb 06 23:36 |
| schestowitz | 3.drive | Feb 06 23:36 |
| schestowitz | . packing food | Feb 06 23:36 |
| DaemonFC | nope | Feb 06 23:36 |
| schestowitz | etc. | Feb 06 23:36 |
| schestowitz | so make hat 75 | Feb 06 23:36 |
| schestowitz | *that | Feb 06 23:36 |
| schestowitz | you still have 168 hours ... | Feb 06 23:36 |
| schestowitz | to sleep | Feb 06 23:36 |
| schestowitz | and do your housework, | Feb 06 23:36 |
| schestowitz | Then you have a few left to be a slob on the couch and digest Rupert Murdoch's crap | Feb 06 23:37 |
| fewt | I just left a job where I was expected to work 80 a week, it was hell. | Feb 06 23:37 |
| fewt | Don't recommend it. | Feb 06 23:37 |
| schestowitz | how long a week? :-) | Feb 06 23:37 |
| schestowitz | 10 days? | Feb 06 23:37 |
| fewt | 5 | Feb 06 23:37 |
| schestowitz | if you sleep 8 hours, that makes sleeping bad at work a [practical solution | Feb 06 23:38 |
| schestowitz | just forget about shaving, shower, etc. | Feb 06 23:38 |
| fewt | DaemonFC: That shame thing, I'm familiar. I used to get it for wanting to leave after a 14 hour shift. | Feb 06 23:38 |
| fewt | 4am-9pm | Feb 06 23:38 |
| schestowitz | omg | Feb 06 23:38 |
| prurigro | wow | Feb 06 23:38 |
| prurigro | as if eh | Feb 06 23:38 |
| schestowitz | is that even legal? | Feb 06 23:38 |
| fewt | no, don't believe that it is | Feb 06 23:38 |
| schestowitz | in the UK you must sign some waiver form | Feb 06 23:38 |
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| fewt | Ah, I'm in the US | Feb 06 23:39 |
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| sebsebseb | schestowitz: didn't see the MOno or patents talk in the end | Feb 06 23:39 |
| schestowitz | ALEC will protect your rights.. | Feb 06 23:39 |
| fewt | I just got my old job back and left. | Feb 06 23:39 |
| fewt | like the 4 people before me :D | Feb 06 23:39 |
| schestowitz | you'd think they'd get a clue | Feb 06 23:39 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: Mono talk got into the place late and didn't know way around, some other guys were trying to get to that as well | Feb 06 23:39 |
| fewt | naah | Feb 06 23:39 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: patents by the time that got to where the room was, it was already full | Feb 06 23:39 |
| sebsebseb | zoobab_: Will there be a video of that talk? | Feb 06 23:39 |
| fewt | I heard they worked people through Christmas and New Years. | Feb 06 23:40 |
| schestowitz | I recently dated this one girl who was in a similar situation, where the girl before her, Rose, quit quickly and didn't tell the latter what she was getting into | Feb 06 23:40 |
| schestowitz | So they both left eventually, at cost to mental and physical health | Feb 06 23:40 |
| schestowitz | To the point of stress-induced headaches | Feb 06 23:40 |
| fewt | I'd be driving home, and they would call and call and call | Feb 06 23:40 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: good stuff | Feb 06 23:40 |
| fewt | at 9pm | Feb 06 23:40 |
| fewt | insanity | Feb 06 23:40 |
| fewt | money was good, but meh | Feb 06 23:40 |
| schestowitz | they own you | Feb 06 23:40 |
| schestowitz | threy pay the wage | Feb 06 23:41 |
| schestowitz | so they implicitly say | Feb 06 23:41 |
| schestowitz | "we paid you last month, now do as we say" (wage slavery) | Feb 06 23:41 |
| fewt | On the bright side, I had the weekends off (because I turned off my phone). :D | Feb 06 23:41 |
| schestowitz | Seeing some people in my family and circle of friends, I recognise that most people hate their job with proportions varying based on the sector. In the UK, a survey said, sw engs are most stressed and dissatisfied with work, maybe more than people at a till | Feb 06 23:42 |
| schestowitz | fewt: the "free" phone | Feb 06 23:42 |
| schestowitz | common trap | Feb 06 23:42 |
| fewt | + | Feb 06 23:42 |
| schestowitz | They know where you are, they can ask why you switched it off | Feb 06 23:42 |
| fewt | Oh, no they didn't pay for my phone | Feb 06 23:42 |
| fewt | so that's their problem. :D | Feb 06 23:42 |
| schestowitz | This is like that Trojan horse that they market as benefit to you, unless you realise how much in terms of unpaid hours they get from that crappy gadget | Feb 06 23:43 |
| schestowitz | PAYG phones here start at 5 quid... subsidised obviously | Feb 06 23:43 |
| schestowitz | so make that 5 + 10 pounds credit | Feb 06 23:43 |
| fewt | They comp time where I work now if it causes an inconvenienve. | Feb 06 23:43 |
| fewt | bleh inconvenience. | Feb 06 23:44 |
| fewt | not always, but meh. | Feb 06 23:44 |
| schestowitz | you can have a phone but not tell them | Feb 06 23:44 |
| schestowitz | or you can explain the ramifications | Feb 06 23:44 |
| schestowitz | They don't like hearing about why those things are generally bad, not just for political reasons but practical and psychological too | Feb 06 23:45 |
| schestowitz | it's like you're never on your own, always with some buzzer, like xbiff in your pocket | Feb 06 23:45 |
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| fewt | Where I am now, they pay for part of the bill, but they don't call unless it's business critical. | Feb 06 23:47 |
| fewt | I'm 4th level support. | Feb 06 23:47 |
| fewt | Architecture design. | Feb 06 23:47 |
| fewt | much nicer ;) | Feb 06 23:47 |
| schestowitz | is escalation on rota? | Feb 06 23:48 |
| fewt | no, I get escalations for Linux architecture issues. | Feb 06 23:48 |
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| fewt | Others get escalations for their platforms. | Feb 06 23:50 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: only went to three talks this time, since when got to the place on both days and such | Feb 06 23:51 |
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| schestowitz | I've been reading about the Philippines, e.g. in | Feb 06 23:56 |
| schestowitz | http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/breaking-news/philippine-rescuers-search-for-quake-survivors/story-e6frf7jx-1226264359183 | Feb 06 23:56 |
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| schestowitz | I read a lot more than that... | Feb 06 23:56 |
| schestowitz | It must be a hectic | Feb 06 23:56 |
| schestowitz | time for some. | Feb 06 23:56 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: cool | Feb 06 23:56 |
| schestowitz | does anyone here do ldap? | Feb 06 23:56 |
| schestowitz | at maintenance level, not mere usage... | Feb 06 23:56 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: I went to two talks about ldap and such | Feb 06 23:57 |
| schestowitz | oh, cool | Feb 06 23:57 |
| sebsebseb | first one was Mageia guy | Feb 06 23:57 |
| sebsebseb | some Fedora guy | Feb 06 23:57 |
| fewt | The only LDAP I do is a handoff to AD | Feb 06 23:57 |
| schestowitz | I'm trying to cron the replication of it | Feb 06 23:57 |
| sebsebseb | some Ubuntu guy some OpenSUse guy, some CentOS guy | Feb 06 23:57 |
| sebsebseb | and some Debian guy | Feb 06 23:57 |
| sebsebseb | basically | Feb 06 23:57 |
| schestowitz | but still learning about location anomalies across distros | Feb 06 23:57 |
| sebsebseb | as a introducation thing, about that kind of stuff | Feb 06 23:57 |
| schestowitz | opensuse authenticates with Steve Ballmer :-) | Feb 06 23:58 |
| sebsebseb | then our Mageia guy, did a talk after that, about how they set up Mageia Identify and such, one account for loads of services, instead of an account for each service | Feb 06 23:58 |
| sebsebseb | also I think there will be videos of these sessions up later on | Feb 06 23:58 |
| *sebsebseb might be in the videos hmm | Feb 06 23:58 | |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: tomorrow there's a techbytes meetup | Feb 06 23:58 |
| sebsebseb | a techbytes meetup ? | Feb 06 23:59 |
| schestowitz | Still leaves time to post news in the morning | Feb 06 23:59 |
| sebsebseb | oh your going to do another techbytes episode you mean? | Feb 06 23:59 |
| *sebsebseb not sure when, but wants to go onto Techbytes again, to talk about FOSDEM and such :) | Feb 06 23:59 | |
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