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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] !linuxlibre 3.2.6-libre-lemote, 3.0.21-libre-lemote, 2.6.32.57-libre2-lemote and 2.6.27.61-libre5-lemote debs for !gnewsense !yeeloong outFeb 16 00:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Hotmail's Spam Filter: The Best In the Business? http://goo.gl/Lbdba #Microsoft lying yet again #surprisesurpriseFeb 16 00:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @m_cetera: US: 500th Simpsons episode feat. Julian #Assange airs Sunday, 8PM on Fox http://t.co/3HdmfpB6Feb 16 00:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Irão desmente suspensão das exportações de petróleo para a Europa- Mercados - Jornal de negócios online http://goo.gl/LRs2QFeb 16 00:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Is it Open Hardware? Cool stuff! http://ur1.ca/86y94Feb 16 00:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Julian Assange and the Supreme Master | New Yorker http://t.co/3cuXvurnFeb 16 00:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Thanks for reporting. Now #silenced.Feb 16 00:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Teller is fucking awesome http://identi.ca/url/2821080Feb 16 00:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Hey #Marketers! Instead of spamming the timeline, contact the company and ask about paid advertising opportunities.Feb 16 00:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Australia: The Rudd-Gillard coup as told through US embassy informants http://t.co/GkJ6YB9uFeb 16 01:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] What would you do if all but 5% of your income was permanently taken from you by corrupt banks? It happened to us. http://t.co/kOzFcpO0Feb 16 01:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] I'm hanging at the Duke of Wellington in Waterloo ON for !Ubuntu Hour :)Feb 16 01:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] EU commision discusses tactical retreat on ACTA | EDRI http://t.co/K2KCiwAAFeb 16 01:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Project Meshnet http://goo.gl/jwfns #freedomtoolsFeb 16 01:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Remember - this is the same Microsoft that asks in Europe for better FRAND licensing of essential patents. They want t... http://b1t.it/aQmiFeb 16 01:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @jwildeboer Remember - this is the same Microsoft that asks in Europe for better FRAND licensing of essential patents. They want t... ...Feb 16 01:29
schestowitzhi tacone1Feb 16 01:30
schestowitzseen your post the other day, pasted hereFeb 16 01:30
tacone1which ?Feb 16 01:31
tacone1ahahahFeb 16 01:31
tacone1i just posted another similar one :)Feb 16 01:31
tacone1so funnyFeb 16 01:31
tacone1I'm not following Ubuntu and OS much these days, but when I do, I get my fair share of lolsFeb 16 01:32
schestowitzthe ubuntu mess is worrisomeFeb 16 01:33
schestowitzbuttons on the wrong side, unity confusionFeb 16 01:33
schestowitzthank goodness there's kdeFeb 16 01:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Now UNESCO has hijacked @UN to spread its nonsense. Hilarious. #OccupyUNESCOFeb 16 01:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Tor's latest project helps #Iran get back online despite new Internet #censorship regime http://goo.gl/UNz59Feb 16 01:34
tacone1i will consider kde for the next upgrades. i'm bothered with all this mess (well, i'm still on 10.10 btw)Feb 16 01:34
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tacone1when I knew ubuntu will get back to rhythmbox I laughed hardFeb 16 01:34
schestowitzamarok is goodFeb 16 01:35
schestowitzbut heavyFeb 16 01:35
schestowitzI use minirokFeb 16 01:35
tacone1rhythmbox does its jobFeb 16 01:35
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tacone1weird to know banshee still crashese.Feb 16 01:36
tacone1it used to crashed years ago, i thought it was better nowFeb 16 01:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] help/faqs/DarknetPlan – reddit – Trac http://goo.gl/ybMxi #freedomtoolsFeb 16 01:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] 300k Organic Farmers To Sue #Monsanto For Seed Patent Claims - Slashdot http://goo.gl/vQqYh #gmoFeb 16 01:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks condena a la UNESCO por censurarle en una conferencia sobre el mismo portal | RT http://t.co/mRfD9UjIFeb 16 01:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Unauthorized iOS Apps Leak Private Data Less Than Approved Ones - Slashdot http://goo.gl/JyEj2 #apple #mobile #privacyFeb 16 01:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @Pascools Jammer dat het niet Vloanders werd geschreven. Dan was het nog enigszins correct in een dialect.Feb 16 01:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @fdgraeve @hannesvdvreken @Tanfoglio_ ik spreek op vrijdag 9/3 om 10:30 in hall 7 op #cebit over mobiliteitFeb 16 01:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @Tanfoglio_ @hannesvdvreken pak ontslag en ge krijgt een job van @Tuinslak #opgelostFeb 16 01:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @Choisissez Nee ze, iRail als werkgever is de max. Zelf, ik herhaal, Zelf @netlash is niet de maxerder ;) (denk ik)Feb 16 01:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @t1mdp @ruben_vanlent Het einde van mij? #amaiFeb 16 01:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @ruben_vanlent - Lag wellicht aan de wodak (voor pun → @rubenslabbinck) @t1mdpFeb 16 01:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @hannesvdvreken @tuinslak vandaag alvast ferm getrimd. Glad als het boven 10 is ;)Feb 16 01:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @greetd yes! ;)Feb 16 01:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @MatHLa Gent in #firstworldcityproblems - Ik vind het feit dat die discussie wordt gevoerd eigenlijk schitterendFeb 16 01:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @janseurinck: Veel meer dan een bedreiging, is het internet een opportuniteit voor muzikanten: http://t.co/ZuTyodrvFeb 16 01:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @evyraes hoera! Ik zit daar morgen ook hele dag.Feb 16 01:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @fdenkens @jimmycappaert Boe! Wij willen transparantie ;)Feb 16 01:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @Joke De grens is net met een graad verhoogd, si http://t.co/YE4kwUz2Feb 16 01:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @fdgraeve op een sidetrack over mobiliteit geloof ik, nog geen details gekregenFeb 16 01:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @jimmycappaert wij zijn trouwens eens met Olympus (Blue bike) gaan spreken - blue bikes en elektrische http://ur1. ...Feb 16 01:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @Tuinslak: #zelfstandige https://t.co/qLwuQXZZ // cc @pietercolpaert ;)Feb 16 01:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @ruben_vanlent Ik dacht al, amai die @t1mdp is stil vandaag (en gisteren).Feb 16 01:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @fdgraeve mogen sprekers ook reageren op je tweet? Ik wil ook wel een Bratwurst.Feb 16 01:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @jimmycappaert geen probleem, daarvoor dient de #iRail vzw. Sowieso wil ik nog integratie van villo API http://ur1. ...Feb 16 01:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @Choisissez Pas op, straks neemt @netlash je aan en zit je 24/24 met je liefke opgescheept. @xavezFeb 16 01:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Exploring The Simpsons in WikiLeaks Era with Al Jean http://t.co/XZzPlEgyFeb 16 01:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] I just tested; it seems fine.Feb 16 01:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Síria, a nova Líbia http://goo.gl/l7ku7 #syria #natoFeb 16 01:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] In Features: #Assad's reform pledges since #Syria's uprising | AJ English http://t.co/chCLJzCfFeb 16 02:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] I think it's working now. Came about due to a version mismatch between Sphinx server in Lucid and the available PHP Sphinx client. #PITAFeb 16 02:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Clear Evidence Republican Party Committing Voter Fraud! | COLLAPSENET http://goo.gl/Vo2LB #usa #gopFeb 16 02:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trmanco/@trmanco] trmanco: RT @autocorrects: The "Earth" without "Art" is just "EH".Feb 16 02:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trmanco/@trmanco] trmanco: RT @ioerror: What the fuck is happening in Canada? Five years in jail for wearing a mask at the "wrong" time?Feb 16 02:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #techrights log #boycottnovell log #boycottnovell-social log #techbytes log Enter the IRC channels nowFeb 16 02:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] RT @ #techrights log #boycottnovell log #boycottnovell-social log #techbytes log Enter the IRC channels nowFeb 16 02:09
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scientes64 bytes from plug.local (192.168.0.3): icmp_seq=19 ttl=64 time=0.185 msFeb 16 02:13
scientes64 bytes from plug.local (192.168.0.3): icmp_seq=20 ttl=64 time=0.174 msFeb 16 02:13
scientes64 bytes from 3.pool.ntp.org (192.168.0.3): icmp_seq=21 ttl=64 time=0.154 msFeb 16 02:13
scientes64 bytes from 3.pool.ntp.org (192.168.0.3): icmp_seq=22 ttl=64 time=0.160 msFeb 16 02:13
scientesWTFFeb 16 02:13
XFaCElooks like a time serverFeb 16 02:14
scientesthats my serverFeb 16 02:14
scienteswhy is it reverse resolving to pool.ntp.org?Feb 16 02:14
XFaCEntp = national time protocolFeb 16 02:14
scientesand on my local net (192.168.0.3)Feb 16 02:14
scientesactually its "network time protocol"Feb 16 02:15
XFaCEyeahFeb 16 02:15
XFaCErealized my mistake :pFeb 16 02:15
XFaCEI'm sick today :(Feb 16 02:15
scientesbut i didn't sign up to be on the pool, and that is a non-routed addressFeb 16 02:15
scienteswtf is going on?Feb 16 02:15
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oiaohmscientes: there are two possiblityFeb 16 02:16
oiaohmYou dns server has gone nuts.Feb 16 02:16
scientesalso, it just switched randomlyFeb 16 02:16
oiaohmor you have ipv6 tunneling.Feb 16 02:16
scientesno ipv6 tunnelingFeb 16 02:16
scientesso shitty at&t router?Feb 16 02:16
oiaohmI mean the Linux boxFeb 16 02:16
oiaohmis ipv6 tunnelingFeb 16 02:16
scientesthere is no ipv6 setup at all as far as i know on this networkFeb 16 02:17
oiaohm6to4 on the Linux machine generate this evil.Feb 16 02:17
scientesthat was soooo wirerdFeb 16 02:17
scientesI loged in, and then i couldn't type anything on the terminalFeb 16 02:18
oiaohmOpen up wireshark and look at 192.168.0.3Feb 16 02:18
scientesand then ping didn't work, and then started working, and then i got thatFeb 16 02:18
oiaohmOr equal network monitoring.Feb 16 02:18
oiaohmSomething that can view ipv6 traffic.Feb 16 02:18
scientesand then i rebooted the computer in question, and now i am in----with ip address, (not .local)Feb 16 02:18
scientesi did install avahi-dnsconfdFeb 16 02:18
oiaohmYou might be seeing soemthing really screw wiffFeb 16 02:18
scientescould that be it?Feb 16 02:18
scienteson the server i was trying to pingFeb 16 02:18
scientesshit im gett the same fooy after rebootingFeb 16 02:19
oiaohmReally presume IPv6 is on until network traffic monitor tells you different.  scientesFeb 16 02:19
scientesi try to type into the logged in ssh session and ssh: connect to host 192.168.0.3 port 22: Connection refusedFeb 16 02:19
scientes$ ssh root@192.168.0.3Feb 16 02:19
scientesssh: connect to host 192.168.0.3 port 22: Connection refusedFeb 16 02:19
scientesbuwaitFeb 16 02:19
scientes$ ssh root@192.168.0.3Feb 16 02:19
scientesLinux plug 3.3.0-rc3-tomoyo #2 PREEMPT Thu Feb 9 12:50:30 PST 2012 armv5telFeb 16 02:20
scientesLast login: Tue Feb 14 20:40:53 2012 from 192.168.0.5Feb 16 02:20
scientesplug:~# Write failed: Broken pipeFeb 16 02:20
scientesand then after that the coputer seems to disappear, crashFeb 16 02:20
oiaohmI hate remote debugingFeb 16 02:21
oiaohmwith these problems.Feb 16 02:21
scienteshttp+fastcgi works fineFeb 16 02:21
scienteswithout me loggin in via sshFeb 16 02:22
oiaohmscientes: really you do have to find out what in heck is going on.Feb 16 02:22
scienteshmm this time logging in worked....Feb 16 02:22
scientesnope, after a few seconds of working, crashFeb 16 02:22
scienteswhole computer erksFeb 16 02:22
scientesyuck, i get like a minute on the console befere another rebootFeb 16 02:24
scientesguess i have to hook up a serial consoleFeb 16 02:24
oiaohmInstalling avahi-dnsconfd can bring in ipv6Feb 16 02:25
oiaohmAnd if ipv6 set up strange the complete system developers very strange and out there messaging.Feb 16 02:25
oiaohmThis is why you must presume ipv6 is on until proven otherwise.Feb 16 02:25
scientesI have dhclient eth0 in my rc.localFeb 16 02:25
oiaohmYou are forgeting ipv6 can tunnel over ipv4Feb 16 02:26
Diablo-D3scientes: wtf dudeFeb 16 02:26
Diablo-D3learn to /etc/network/interfacesFeb 16 02:26
scientesyeah i have that too, but i was like mehFeb 16 02:26
Diablo-D3you're bringing up network too late to boot your boxFeb 16 02:26
oiaohmSo as long as you have a ipv4 connection you can have ipv6 traffic coming in.Feb 16 02:26
scientescause it actually set up with the kernel even before thatFeb 16 02:26
scientesi pass ip=dhcp to the kernelFeb 16 02:27
oiaohmO boy.Feb 16 02:29
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scienteso wow, i think it is watchdogFeb 16 02:31
scientesits just repeatedly rebooting itsselfFeb 16 02:31
scientesI installed avahi-dnsconfd cause i was looking for .local resolution, that probably isn't waht that package doesFeb 16 02:37
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scientesit appears that startx without any display device attached is what was doing itFeb 16 02:42
scienteswhich seems really badFeb 16 02:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] "It's a snap!" http://ur1.ca/8718x Just read this to the kids. Strangely moving for people who design products. #kodak #productdesignFeb 16 02:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Candidate words for Buzzword Bingo - http://ur1.ca/871gu #fbFeb 16 02:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] [$] LWN.net Weekly Edition for February 16, 2012 http://ur1.ca/871icFeb 16 02:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @marcusweiland: Max Strotmann representing @SiimKallasEU emphasized importance of #opendata at #ITTRANS http://p.ost.im/p/e97STsFeb 16 02:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: soon 90% of jobs will need digital literacy. But 1 in 4 have never used Internet. http:/ http://p.ost.im/p/e9PA4sFeb 16 02:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @epsiplatform: UK public consultation on Open Standards. Have your say! #opendata #openstandards http:// http://p.ost.im/p/e9GfJEFeb 16 02:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: EC Pdt Barroso wrote to all member states y'day calling for "digital champions" across t http://p.ost.im/p/e9fLKbFeb 16 02:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: Welcome this decision in UK http://t.co/FDgBzCNz = consumers benefit from lower call pri http://p.ost.im/p/e9PARDFeb 16 02:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: Every member state should have a digital champion like @marthalanefox http://t.co/4bjfwj http://p.ost.im/p/e9n7QJFeb 16 02:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Mozilla to CAs: fix it or we’ll drop you http://ur1.ca/871l3Feb 16 02:52
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scientes^^^^^^^^ooo good articleFeb 16 02:54
scientescompanies are using bogus but CA-signed certificates to MITM employeesFeb 16 02:54
scientesmaybe DNSSEC-included certificates can solve this messFeb 16 02:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trmanco/@trmanco] trmanco: @JamieMitchell37 You love me, shut it :PFeb 16 03:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trmanco/@trmanco] trmanco: RT @EricDSnider: I like that birth control is a political issue this year because it means the year is 1964 an http://ur1.ca/871s5Feb 16 03:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trmanco/@trmanco] trmanco: @JamieMitchell37 Bitch :PFeb 16 03:02
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scienteshttp://www.micro-sdxc.com/img/micro-SDXC-2TB.jpgFeb 16 03:19
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scienteswonder how much that costsFeb 16 03:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] You mean at once? You can post to either one now, then "switch account" to post to the other.Feb 16 03:20
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oiaohmscientes:  DNSSEC only says the DNS is signed.Feb 16 03:22
oiaohmscientes: besides it always been possible to block all traffic you CA set cannot open.Feb 16 03:22
oiaohmscientes: so anyone wishing to use your network has to use your CA or stuffed.Feb 16 03:23
oiaohmscientes: this is far more truthful about I am watching you.Feb 16 03:23
scientesoiaohm, what I mean is that DNSSEC supports putting the certificates in the recordsFeb 16 03:23
scientescause it is signed that worksFeb 16 03:23
oiaohmAnd what stops me man in middle the DNSFeb 16 03:24
scienteshowever, if there IS a signed certificate in DNSSEC, will then other certificates, even _if_ signed by a trusted CA, then not work?Feb 16 03:24
scientesthat is what I am askingFeb 16 03:24
scientesoiaohm, cause its DNSSECFeb 16 03:24
scientesso you can't MITM itFeb 16 03:24
scientesthats the whole damn point of DNSSECFeb 16 03:24
oiaohmYou can if you have a approved CAFeb 16 03:24
oiaohmSo it looks signed correctly.Feb 16 03:25
scienteshowever the CAs are delegted the same as DNSFeb 16 03:25
scientesso there isn't as much overlapFeb 16 03:25
scienteslike the way there is with CA certificate trust areasFeb 16 03:25
scientesim not saying it is perfect, but that would fix alot of the problems with CA overlapFeb 16 03:26
scientesit also of course gives more power to the DNSSEC CA holdersFeb 16 03:26
oiaohmThe theory of DNSSEC is that the DNS and CA will be independant.Feb 16 03:29
oiaohmSo a breach on one will not straight up breach the other.Feb 16 03:29
scientesWUTFeb 16 03:30
scientesI don't think that is "the theory"Feb 16 03:30
oiaohmMan in middle when you have control of the DNSFeb 16 03:30
oiaohmAnd control of the CAFeb 16 03:30
oiaohmYes all bets are off.Feb 16 03:30
scientesI guess that is reasonableFeb 16 03:30
oiaohmThis why mozilla is so pissed over this.Feb 16 03:31
oiaohmIf those keys leaks they can cause major secuirty problems.Feb 16 03:31
scientesThey certainyl should be!Feb 16 03:31
oiaohmIf you are monitoring a work network you really should tell your staff that you are.Feb 16 03:32
scienteshowever, couldn't you get rid of one RT by putting the certificate in DNSSECFeb 16 03:32
scientes???Feb 16 03:32
scientesI guess you could still have it signed by another CAFeb 16 03:32
scientesbut it still seems like you should put your public key in DNSFeb 16 03:32
scientes(if it is signed)Feb 16 03:33
oiaohmDNSSEC cross references with the CA approved key.Feb 16 03:33
oiaohmThe reason is to detect defect.Feb 16 03:33
oiaohmSo as long as attacker don't get both they don't get you basically.Feb 16 03:33
oiaohmMan in middle telling everyone does not need to breach the CA.Feb 16 03:34
oiaohmBasically the internal network just refuses to allow out anything it cannot decrypt.Feb 16 03:34
oiaohmSo if you want to use the network you have to install the networks CA key.Feb 16 03:35
oiaohmSo its very up front about it.Feb 16 03:35
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oiaohmBasically these guys making man in the middle devices have been wanting todo it without anyone knowing.  scientesFeb 16 03:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Your latest #humour column is a hoot @larryrusswurm "What if Average Height Keeps Increasing?" http://ur1.ca/871vwFeb 16 03:39
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scientes<oiaohm> Basically the internal network just refuses to allow out anything it cannot decrypt.Feb 16 03:40
scienteseekFeb 16 03:40
scientes<oiaohm> Basically these guys making man in the middle devices have been wanting todo it without anyone knowing.  scientesFeb 16 03:40
scientesof courseFeb 16 03:40
scientesbut do some companies actually force MITM?Feb 16 03:40
scientesthat would be horribleFeb 16 03:41
oiaohmYou have to in some cases.Feb 16 03:41
oiaohmWhen the information contained is life or death.Feb 16 03:41
oiaohmAnything leaking out that should not is basically killing people.Feb 16 03:42
oiaohmBut there is no reason to keep it secret.Feb 16 03:42
oiaohmIe you will be encrypted from here to the proxy using our internal CA and from the CA to the outside world using the external CAs.Feb 16 03:43
oiaohmSo yes you are watched.Feb 16 03:43
scienteshmmFeb 16 03:44
scienteson another topic: is NOR sufficiently durable?Feb 16 03:44
scienteshttps://www.globalscaletechnologies.com/t-d2plugdetails.aspxFeb 16 03:44
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oiaohmscientes: some of the places getting the MITM stuff has been Egypt and ChinaFeb 16 03:44
scientesthe supported way is to boot from SD using ext2loadFeb 16 03:44
oiaohmYes countries where you just might disappear never to be seen again.Feb 16 03:45
scientesbut I of ofcourse see that as too much reliance on the SD and would rather put the kernel directly on that very spacious 16 Mb NOR flashFeb 16 03:45
oiaohmIts not funny what these rogue CA have been upto.Feb 16 03:45
scientesif you compress the kernel with lzma is going down to <2.5 mbFeb 16 03:45
scientes2.9mb for gzip compression, 2.2 for lzmaFeb 16 03:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] @nj3ma What were you doing on #Formspring????Feb 16 03:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] Installing ZTE modem software on #fedora 14 has fucked up my network manager .... thanks a bunch #ZTE fu!Feb 16 03:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] you have to tell me where to subscribe... i'm talking to you on your identica account here :)Feb 16 03:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Subscribed!Feb 16 04:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] #lstench now you need to load an avatar :)Feb 16 04:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] #2012: Ron Paul won Maine, GOP is trying to cover it up including refusing to count votes http://identi.ca/url/66665769Feb 16 04:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trmanco/@trmanco] trmanco: @twishaawishaa Go do your homework :PFeb 16 04:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] #2012: Ron Paul will be Republican nominee for President http://identi.ca/url/66666077Feb 16 04:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] Hate Cambridge. Waiting at red light with @mpatoskaFeb 16 05:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] Word to the wise, Setting up the #ZTE MF192 @OrangeKenya 21Mbps HSPA+ modem on #linux is a pain in the *ss!Feb 16 05:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] Back in Boston. Tasty Burger time.Feb 16 05:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] Lord, please forgive me for what I am about to torrent ...Feb 16 05:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Seems online font conversion sites don't support !Ubuntu so I'm lucky @grant_lovell was at #UbuntuHour to convert ttf to oft !InconstantMoonFeb 16 05:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] :)Feb 16 05:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @vlax @eebrah ok, lets pray: Glory to the seed, and to the leeching and to the Holly #p2p #Amen :D :XFeb 16 05:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] WTF? Took this mug of coffee without sugar and only noticed on the last gulp? What is happening to me?Feb 16 05:54
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abeNd-orgI prefer http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ebirah insteadFeb 16 05:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Under-pressure newspapers 'deserve tax breaks' http://goo.gl/ELB07 aka we need govt hand outs to keep spreading bullshitFeb 16 06:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @caparsons "The bill includes no mention of children or predators except in the short title of it." http://ur1.ca/874rp #C30 !privacyFeb 16 06:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rdr @dragosr Wearing a Guy Fawkes mask could get you 5 years in jail in !Canada, under new proposed bill C-309 http://ur1.ca/874ut !CDNpoliFeb 16 06:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @laurelrusswurm rdr @dragosr Wearing a Guy Fawkes mask could get you 5 years in jail in !Canada, under new proposed bill C-309 http:/ ...Feb 16 06:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Bill C-308 "Preventing Persons from Concealing Their Identity during Riots and Unlawful Assemblies Act" http://ur1.ca/874x0Feb 16 06:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @ioerror What the fuck is happening in! Canada ? Five years in jail for wearing a mask at the "wrong" time? http://ur1.ca/874x0Feb 16 06:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @eqe Man I sure am glad I've never installed Flash. #ohfuckmyandroidcamewithmalware http://ur1.ca/874zm !privacy #securityFeb 16 06:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] good morning @bavatar !tzagFeb 16 06:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] You can do anything you like. Personal blogs can covers 3-4 things (or more) because we all have more than 1 interest.Feb 16 06:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Will read it ASAP! http://ur1.ca/875nrFeb 16 07:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !tzaf and good night !identiverseFeb 16 07:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @laurelrusswurm !tzaf and good night !identiverseFeb 16 07:22
DaemonFChttp://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2400340,00.aspFeb 16 07:27
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DaemonFCdamn vfatFeb 16 07:48
DaemonFCI forgot to turn on "Enforce vfat-safe names" in Amarok and it saved a bunch of filenames with characters that vfat doesn't understandFeb 16 07:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Primele 9 camioane cu lemne de la Casa Regală în drum spre Ialomița http://ur1.ca/876cv #ialomita #romania #regeFeb 16 08:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @ibhuiyan Install & Run !Ubuntu OS On Your !Android Device Using !Ubuntu Installer #App http://goo.gl/bJkgwFeb 16 08:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @ #techrights log #boycottnovell log #boycottnovell-social log #techbytes log Enter the IRC channels nowFeb 16 08:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @osamak It's absurd to see that many people suddenly defending the integrity of Saudi judiciary when it comes to #HamzaKashgari.Feb 16 08:07
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oiaohmhttp://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2012/02/police-download-a-file-go-to-jail-for-10-years-and-pay-an-unlimited-fine.ars  Here comes the sledgeFeb 16 08:08
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DaemonFCone MILLION dollars!Feb 16 08:09
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DaemonFCoiaohm: refresh my memoryFeb 16 08:15
DaemonFCare ampersands allowed in vfat?Feb 16 08:15
oiaohmDaemonFC: cannot rememberFeb 16 08:18
oiaohmDaemonFC: there are too many strange rules to vfatFeb 16 08:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #KillBill is class - jus' sayin'Feb 16 08:20
DaemonFChttp://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/02/precise-adds-user-safeguards-to-compiz-app/Feb 16 08:33
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DaemonFChttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJhw8Tk7BeUFeb 16 08:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #SUSE Serves Microsoft Decades After Microsoft Broke the Law Against Novell http://ur1.ca/876zrFeb 16 08:35
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DaemonFCAT&T caps service at 150 GB per monthFeb 16 08:44
DaemonFCsuggests customers monitor their usage (ironically hosted on a site with a lot of very large images and flash applets)Feb 16 08:45
DaemonFCthen makes sure the site is down half the time so you can't see where you areFeb 16 08:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Head of #Mozilla Says #ACTA Is 'A Bad Way To Develop Internet Policy' - http://bit.ly/xOLCd6 heed the lizard wranglerFeb 16 08:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Trusting Microsoft-friendly Companies When It Comes to GPL Trending http://ur1.ca/8778f #gpl #blackduckFeb 16 08:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] On the Decline of the #GPL - http://bit.ly/yaOgZD useful thoughts #opensourceFeb 16 08:49
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DaemonFCRyan FarmerFeb 16 08:52
DaemonFCSomeone signed me up for "Tea Party Action Alerts". They sound more like Klan Rally 2.0. I forwarded them to their service provider's abuse address and tweaked my bogofilter to hopefully flag and delete them. Feb 16 08:52
DaemonFCSigning me up for Tea Party alerts is like signing up a Jew for Stormtrooper Magazine.Feb 16 08:52
DaemonFCLike ·  · 2 seconds ago · Feb 16 08:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] What is #Copyright For? - http://onforb.es/xIR1CZ good point: (c) as "regulation of commercial exploitation", not regulation of copyingFeb 16 08:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] http://ur1.ca/877joFeb 16 08:55
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DaemonFCschestowitz: My dad laughed when he asked me what I thought of the Tea PartyFeb 16 08:56
DaemonFCand I told him I thought they were like the brown shirts of the Republican PartyFeb 16 08:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] EU tar sands vote set for 23 February - http://bit.ly/xVCN2m lobbyists will be getting excited #tarsands #energyFeb 16 08:57
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DaemonFCthe Tea Party supports border on the definition of domestic terroristsFeb 16 08:58
DaemonFCyou see everything from 9/11 truthers, to birthers, to radical anti-abortion groups that say it's wrong to murder and then blow up women's clinicsFeb 16 08:58
DaemonFCno other country in the world would tolerate thisFeb 16 08:59
schestowitz[08:56] <DaemonFC> and I told him I thought they were like the brown shirts of the Republican PartyFeb 16 09:00
schestowitzYeah, seems soFeb 16 09:00
schestowitzDaemonFC: abortions caused 9/11, OF COURSE !!Feb 16 09:00
DaemonFCthey got mad after the DHS released one of their sensistive but unclassified reports concerning the possibility of former US Army soldiers being courted by far right wing extremistsFeb 16 09:00
Diablo-D3DUDEFeb 16 09:00
DaemonFCmad because it was "profiling"Feb 16 09:00
Diablo-D3_BAGELS_ CAUSED 9/11Feb 16 09:00
Diablo-D3NOT "JEWS DID 9/11"Feb 16 09:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Post updated to include new link from @glyjnmoody http://ur1.ca/8778f #gplFeb 16 09:00
Diablo-D3BUT THE BAGELSFeb 16 09:00
DaemonFCwell, Timothy McVeigh fit that description Feb 16 09:00
schestowitzwell, DUHFeb 16 09:00
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Diablo-D3ALL 27 KINDS OF THEMFeb 16 09:00
schestowitzbagels or jews?Feb 16 09:01
Diablo-D3ITS A CONSPIRACY THAT OUR BREAD MAKING OVERLORDS DONT WANT US TO KNOWFeb 16 09:01
schestowitzit's a conspiracy of "Elites"Feb 16 09:01
*Diablo-D3 is trying so hard to keep a straight faceFeb 16 09:01
schestowitzwith bagels!Feb 16 09:01
Diablo-D3nope not happeningFeb 16 09:01
*Diablo-D3 cracks upFeb 16 09:01
schestowitzDiablo-D3: why did you dad Felta ask that?Feb 16 09:02
schestowitzdid he think of joining?Feb 16 09:02
Diablo-D3tabfail?Feb 16 09:02
schestowitzit's led and funded by the likes of Koch BrothersFeb 16 09:02
DaemonFCno, just a thing that came upFeb 16 09:02
Diablo-D3DaemonFC is that wayFeb 16 09:02
DaemonFCI don't advocate killing people as a means of political changeFeb 16 09:03
schestowitzautocomplete failFeb 16 09:03
schestowitzDaemonFC: sometimes it's the last resortFeb 16 09:03
DaemonFCa lot of the tea partiers are doing things like calling on people to kill the presidentFeb 16 09:03
schestowitzhistory suggests soFeb 16 09:03
schestowitznot that I'd advocate itFeb 16 09:03
Diablo-D3better to work for the devil you know?Feb 16 09:03
schestowitzjust sayin'Feb 16 09:03
schestowitzpeople think that to claim this is to advocate murderFeb 16 09:03
schestowitzbut I keep hearing from people, armed revolution is sometimes the only effective oneFeb 16 09:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #webOS governance model announced, more open than #Android - http://bit.ly/xxQPKN good moveFeb 16 09:04
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DaemonFCI noticed that Texas alone is responsible for over two thirds of all executions done in the United States nowFeb 16 09:04
DaemonFCbut they don't seem to have any respect for due processFeb 16 09:04
DaemonFCso I won't go to Texas for any reasonFeb 16 09:05
schestowitzbig beef burgers?Feb 16 09:05
schestowitzand the coronary is freeFeb 16 09:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] 300k farmers hope for lawsuit against #Monsanto - http://bit.ly/wGPnQb lots at stake here #gm #patentsFeb 16 09:05
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DaemonFCby the time most of the states actually carry out an execution, the process has gotten so far along that there is no longer any doubt about what the guy didFeb 16 09:05
DaemonFCor if he actually did itFeb 16 09:05
DaemonFCTexas doesn't seem to careFeb 16 09:06
DaemonFCthey just round anyone up to put on death rowFeb 16 09:06
schestowitzwell, it's hard to state your case when you are dustFeb 16 09:06
DaemonFCthe police there especially like to target the mentally ill and mentally retardedFeb 16 09:06
DaemonFCto coach them into a confession for something they may not have doneFeb 16 09:06
schestowitzDaemonFC: but you once advocated death penalties, no?Feb 16 09:06
DaemonFCI doFeb 16 09:06
schestowitzit was you taking that side of the argument when we were againstFeb 16 09:06
DaemonFCbut the process in Texas is wrongFeb 16 09:07
schestowitzthey should not execute of jailFeb 16 09:07
schestowitzthere are worse things than thatFeb 16 09:07
schestowitzand more beneficial for remedyFeb 16 09:07
schestowitzlike foxconn 18 hours a dayFeb 16 09:07
DaemonFCif any state, in the last 20 years, has killed people who were actually not guilty, I'm sure it is TexasFeb 16 09:07
oiaohmReally I see death penalities and Jail as wrong.Feb 16 09:08
schestowitzit's, a very religious stateFeb 16 09:08
schestowitzmaybe they try to fast-track a journey to HellFeb 16 09:08
oiaohmProblem is with Jail we have to pay there roof over their head.Feb 16 09:08
schestowitzrealising that their penal system is heaven in comparisonFeb 16 09:08
oiaohmDeath penalities no matter what you do the wrong person sooner or latter will be killed.Feb 16 09:09
schestowitz!google Norway oslo mayor respectFeb 16 09:09
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - An un-American response to the Oslo attack - Norway - Salon.com | http://www.salon.com/2011/07/28/norway_4/Feb 16 09:09
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Sunday Saying by the Mayor of Oslo, Norway | Janet Oberholtzer | http://www.janetober.com/2011/07/24/sunday-saying-by-the-mayor-of-oslo-norway/Feb 16 09:09
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Mushin » Oslo | http://bbneves.com/tag/oslo/Feb 16 09:09
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - “If one man can show this much hate, think how... - Lapidarium | http://amiquote.tumblr.com/post/8016132504/if-one-man-can-show-this-much-hate-think-howFeb 16 09:09
oiaohmWe cannot reverse death.Feb 16 09:09
DaemonFCyeah, the kind of security you have to keep someone like that under to make sure they never escape, and to protect other prisoners from themFeb 16 09:09
DaemonFCexpensiveFeb 16 09:09
schestowitzoiaohm: the argument is deterrence-basedFeb 16 09:09
DaemonFClethal injection costs a small fraction of thatFeb 16 09:09
schestowitzthat, for example, others won't do it for fear of the retributionFeb 16 09:09
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DaemonFCI agree that there should be a death penaltyFeb 16 09:10
oiaohmDaemonFC: Using them as a expermined for cryo storage would have a bigger deterint.Feb 16 09:10
DaemonFCI also think that extreme caution should be used in applying itFeb 16 09:10
oiaohmWho wants to wake up stuffed.Feb 16 09:10
DaemonFCschestowitz: an example of a case where I think the guy should have gotten the death sentence....Feb 16 09:11
oiaohmYes I am a mean bastard this way.  If we are doing something close to death penalty is should be research secience.Feb 16 09:11
DaemonFCabout 15 years ago, there was a guy in the city of Marion, which is near where I lived at that timeFeb 16 09:11
DaemonFChe was going through a divorce and decided to kill his wife at the courthouseFeb 16 09:11
MinceRoiaohm: Ice Prison!Feb 16 09:11
DaemonFCso in plain daylight, he shot her repeatedlyFeb 16 09:12
DaemonFCin front of many witnessesFeb 16 09:12
DaemonFCthere was no doubt what he didFeb 16 09:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Israel dreht Palästinensern den Solarstrom ab - http://bit.ly/yqZEt0 collective punishment much? #cowardsFeb 16 09:12
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DaemonFCI think he not only should have been sentenced to death, but that it should have been fast trackedFeb 16 09:12
DaemonFChe's still in prison for itFeb 16 09:12
MinceR"aw shit, they let anybody into this century!"Feb 16 09:12
oiaohmKilling him will not bring her back.Feb 16 09:13
MinceRgeekingsFeb 16 09:13
DaemonFCright, that's no reason to show him mercyFeb 16 09:13
DaemonFChe never even once showed remorse for what he didFeb 16 09:13
oiaohmDaemonFC: mind you focing him to clear land mines until he makes a mistake at least he doing something useful before he goes bang.Feb 16 09:13
DaemonFCI mean, this case is such clear cut death sentence materialFeb 16 09:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Goldman’s Settlement With ‘Mini Madoff’ Receiver Approved http://goo.gl/wQ6x8 #GoldmanSachs is mega-madoff, got bailout, not jailFeb 16 09:14
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oiaohmDaemonFC: is this person not now expendanble.Feb 16 09:14
DaemonFCI think soFeb 16 09:14
oiaohmDaemonFC: they have killed.Feb 16 09:14
oiaohmSo they should be used to prevent other people from being killedFeb 16 09:14
DaemonFCif you're going to give him a sentence lighter than death it should be a life sentence of hard laborFeb 16 09:14
oiaohmLike clearing mine fieldsFeb 16 09:14
oiaohmIe high risk jobFeb 16 09:15
iophkhttp://www.popehat.com/2011/12/21/good-americans-dont-criticize-the-tsa-only-a-commie-would-do-that/Feb 16 09:15
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oiaohmIf god sees it fit to kill him so be it.Feb 16 09:15
oiaohmWe do not have to be a murder ourselves basically DaemonFCFeb 16 09:15
oiaohmThere is more than one way to get rid of them.  Lets make use of them.Feb 16 09:16
DaemonFCkeeping someone like that alive with the possibility of being paroled makes the surviving family of his victim(s) live every day in fear that the state might release himFeb 16 09:16
MinceRwhat if they escape?Feb 16 09:16
schestowitziophk: how trueFeb 16 09:16
DaemonFCor that he might escapeFeb 16 09:16
schestowitzin border control you can't speak your mindFeb 16 09:16
DaemonFCthanks MinceRFeb 16 09:16
MinceRnpFeb 16 09:16
schestowitzit'll flag you a potential "terrorist", must be docile and quietFeb 16 09:16
MinceRi pay in cash some of the time, so i'm a potential terroristFeb 16 09:17
oiaohmIf you remove restriction on medical that can be used against these criminals.Feb 16 09:17
MinceRaccording to the fbiFeb 16 09:17
oiaohmThere is nothing stoping them from being fitted with a reverse pace maker.Feb 16 09:17
DaemonFCMinceR: I usually use my debit card, just because I don't like pockets full of changeFeb 16 09:17
oiaohmRun away dieFeb 16 09:17
MinceRalso, i have a cloak on freenode, so, again, i'm a potential terrorist according to fbiFeb 16 09:17
DaemonFCand going someone to turn it all back into cash now and thenFeb 16 09:17
DaemonFCor possibly losing itFeb 16 09:18
oiaohmYou don't need much secuirty if they need something from you to stay alive.Feb 16 09:18
MinceRDaemonFC: the fbi doesn't careFeb 16 09:18
DaemonFCand because I have a decent cash back system on my debit cardFeb 16 09:18
MinceRgood citizens don't use cashFeb 16 09:18
DaemonFCI'm not buying fertilizer and hydrogen peroxide and putting it in a rental truckFeb 16 09:18
DaemonFCI don't care if they know I went to Taco BellFeb 16 09:18
oiaohmDaemonFC: remember what you said I am not out to kill them.Feb 16 09:19
MinceRyou will, once they use the knowledge that you regularly eat at taco bell to arrest/kidnap you thereFeb 16 09:19
oiaohmDaemonFC: but nothing prevent you from setting it up that they will kill themselves if they run away.Feb 16 09:19
DaemonFCas opposed to at my home?Feb 16 09:19
DaemonFCif I pay for everything in cash, they still know where I liveFeb 16 09:20
oiaohmDaemonFC: Ie you never killed the person. They were informed of the limits and choose to take there own life.Feb 16 09:20
MinceRthey might not know the layout and defenses of your home as well as those of a taco bell :>Feb 16 09:20
DaemonFCtrueFeb 16 09:20
oiaohmDaemonFC:  and MinceR if you want to take really evil we are really short of organ transplant parts.Feb 16 09:21
oiaohmSo they get a battery operated heart instead.Feb 16 09:21
MinceR:>Feb 16 09:21
MinceRsure, but who will pay to feed them afterwards?Feb 16 09:21
MinceRand to replace the battery?Feb 16 09:21
oiaohmMinceR: they have to if they want to liveFeb 16 09:22
DaemonFCI think we could all use an upgradeFeb 16 09:22
DaemonFChttp://www.plasticbag.org/images/extra/cybermen_on_bbc.jpgFeb 16 09:22
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oiaohmMinceR: I have no interest in paying for the jail time.Feb 16 09:22
oiaohmMinceR: or there food or there mantaince.Feb 16 09:22
oiaohmMinceR: if they choose to take there own life that is not my problem.Feb 16 09:22
MinceRDaemonFC: they come with handles on the head for easy carrying!Feb 16 09:23
MinceRoiaohm: and again, there's still the issue of keeping them captive to prevent them form harming people.Feb 16 09:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] A Look at the http://ur1.ca/2kb12 Members Choice Awards Winners http://goo.gl/6zVm4 #linux #gnuFeb 16 09:24
oiaohmMinceR: computer controlled hart.Feb 16 09:24
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MinceRalso, not killing them but taking their heart still has the issue of what if the courts were wrong. (same issue as with death penalty)Feb 16 09:24
oiaohmGo out of range die.Feb 16 09:24
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MinceRoiaohm: could be cracked.Feb 16 09:24
oiaohmTrue anotheer reason why they would kind want to stay away from populated areas.Feb 16 09:24
DaemonFCthese CD-Rs I got have a good deal of space for overburning Feb 16 09:25
oiaohmParticularly if the population already knows how disable it.Feb 16 09:25
DaemonFCI managed to write a 719 MB ISO on one earlierFeb 16 09:25
MinceRoiaohm: what if the population or one of the criminal's contacts know how to disable the killswitch?Feb 16 09:26
oiaohmMinceR: remember you can have two predefined freq.Feb 16 09:26
oiaohmMinceR: one keeps them aliveFeb 16 09:26
oiaohmMinceR: one kills them.Feb 16 09:26
DaemonFCKubuntu dropped Kopete and a bunch of fluff and put in KDE Telepathy Feb 16 09:26
DaemonFCtheir daily live ISO went from 739 MB to 708Feb 16 09:26
DaemonFCso it's within reason to figure you could get away with overburn nowFeb 16 09:26
MinceRsomebody still uses cd-s? :>Feb 16 09:27
oiaohmMinceR: robot hard emp will kill them anyhow.Feb 16 09:27
MinceRoiaohm: unless they add emp shielding.Feb 16 09:27
DaemonFCreally I think they should decide whether fitting on a CD is more important than shipping the full enchiladaFeb 16 09:27
DaemonFCthey could make a live ISO of kde-full and not use an entire 4 GB single layer DVDFeb 16 09:27
oiaohmMinceR: what means they most likely will not be small any more.Feb 16 09:27
schestowitz[09:26] <DaemonFC> Kubuntu dropped Kopete and a bunch of fluff and put in KDE Telepathy Feb 16 09:28
MinceRoiaohm: or get a real heart transplant from someone via illicit means.Feb 16 09:28
schestowitzKubuntu is not needed anymoreFeb 16 09:28
schestowitzI use debian with KDEFeb 16 09:28
schestowitzBut in my department we standardise on UbuntuFeb 16 09:28
schestowitzboth servers and desktopsFeb 16 09:28
schestowitzOnly ubuntuFeb 16 09:28
MinceRewFeb 16 09:28
schestowitzto make life easier (more consistent) to win-oriented adminsFeb 16 09:28
MinceRdo you also standardize on unity? :>Feb 16 09:28
schestowitzthey set me up a new kubuntu box right nowFeb 16 09:28
schestowitzI asked for debian, they insisted on *buntuFeb 16 09:29
schestowitzLast night I went through the long application process for a new position in Oxford University(stating immediately) that matches my past RA appointments in cardiac imagingFeb 16 09:29
MinceRwhat are winblows-oriented admins doing in a gnu/linux-oriented environment? get some competent admins. :>Feb 16 09:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Red Hat scoffs at VMware's open cloud claims http://goo.gl/gZmKA #redhat #gnu #linuxFeb 16 09:29
schestowitzMaybe I'll just relocateFeb 16 09:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Red Hat scoffs at VMware's open cloud claims | ZDNet .::. Size~: 105.85 KBFeb 16 09:29
iophkSchestowitz: Debian would be better on the servers.Feb 16 09:29
schestowitzyes, exactlyFeb 16 09:29
DaemonFCyeah, binary compatibility with UbuntuFeb 16 09:29
schestowitzthere was a mess upgradign ubuntuFeb 16 09:29
oiaohmMinceR: even getting a transplant. Can be hard if you cannot disarm the implant.Feb 16 09:29
schestowitzwith /oldhome/ as partitionFeb 16 09:29
iophkLonger release cycle, more granular modularity.Feb 16 09:29
schestowitzfor like daysFeb 16 09:29
DaemonFCwithout the god awful Unity shellFeb 16 09:29
schestowitzuntil this morning, they finally put my homedir back in /home/Feb 16 09:29
DaemonFCit's a reasonable compromise to makeFeb 16 09:29
MinceRoiaohm: you only need to keep it at bay temporarily, then.Feb 16 09:29
schestowitzso I could run my scripts againFeb 16 09:29
schestowitzimagine, taking a week to upgrade a server. In Debian it's a lot smootherFeb 16 09:30
oiaohmMinceR: not really.Feb 16 09:30
MinceRso for example you can defend against EMP by locating the operating room in a Faraday cage.Feb 16 09:30
schestowitzthey even needed people to reset passowrds to merely upgrade the serverFeb 16 09:30
iophkIn Debian, it's usually minutes for the base system.Feb 16 09:30
MinceRalso no issue with populated areas.Feb 16 09:30
oiaohmMinceR: name a criminal who want to come near a another criminal who is a walking bug.Feb 16 09:30
schestowitziophk: rolling?Feb 16 09:30
MinceRoiaohm: m$ upper management? :)Feb 16 09:30
iophkNo.  From one release to the next.Feb 16 09:30
schestowitzanyway, Oxford is very Linux-orientedFeb 16 09:30
iophkThe customizations take longer.Feb 16 09:31
schestowitzI worked there for a while, it's Cambridge that's ill with the MS bugFeb 16 09:31
iophkGood on Oxford.Feb 16 09:31
oiaohmMinceR: even MS upper management does not like recording devices.Feb 16 09:31
schestowitzthe opening there is 2-2.5 yearsFeb 16 09:31
MinceRthey do, so long as the device isn't recording them :>Feb 16 09:31
schestowitzthe one I'm on now is funded till 2015 (ERC)Feb 16 09:31
oiaohmMinceR: Case of always on.  Feb 16 09:31
iophkI saw several universities in the 1990's that were using Red Hat in the student labs.Feb 16 09:31
schestowitzmaybe fir researchFeb 16 09:32
schestowitzwouldn'tbe good for common usersFeb 16 09:32
iophkIt's what happens when the IT people got to make the decisions.   It has subesquently been replaced by M$ sales staff on site.Feb 16 09:32
oiaohmMinceR: basically its not hard to work out how to make a person in a place they cannot excape from.Feb 16 09:32
schestowitzand if they have centos on the computational servers it'll make senseFeb 16 09:32
oiaohmMinceR: if you remove all moral limit.Feb 16 09:32
schestowitz[09:31] <iophk> I saw several universities in the 1990's that were using Red Hat in the student labs.Feb 16 09:32
schestowitzCS in Manchester Uni uses FedoraFeb 16 09:33
oiaohmMinceR: to survalance devices and bio alteration.Feb 16 09:33
schestowitzas standardFeb 16 09:33
schestowitzthere was a decision made around 8 years ago, I voted for SUSEFeb 16 09:33
schestowitzbut Fedora Core wonFeb 16 09:33
oiaohmMinceR: yes it would make them good research guine pigs.Feb 16 09:33
MinceRschestowitz: lucky :>Feb 16 09:33
iophkIn retrospect, Fedora Core is the better choice.Feb 16 09:33
oiaohmMinceR: Like we are almost to the point of being able to read mind to hear what a person is hearing.Feb 16 09:34
iophkBack then M$ was on the way out.Feb 16 09:34
oiaohmMinceR: and in time see what a person is seeing.Feb 16 09:34
schestowitzI may need to move there, to accommodate the girlfriend, even though Oxford id ranked lower for research than where I am right now. Someone is checking for me in the US right now.Feb 16 09:34
oiaohmMinceR: that kind of tech makes removing the bug kinda evil.Feb 16 09:34
schestowitzMinceR: yeahFeb 16 09:34
DaemonFChttp://www.qupzilla.com/Feb 16 09:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: QupZilla - Lightweight multiplatform browser .::. Size~: 9.34 KBFeb 16 09:35
MinceRDaemonFC: it has "zilla" in its name, so it can't be good! :>Feb 16 09:36
schestowitzMinceR: I bet Orbans and his Nazi-esque party have already scared away Hungarian academics, who moved abroad (fled)Feb 16 09:36
schestowitz*OrbanFeb 16 09:36
schestowitzMany flee the US too, I thinkFeb 16 09:36
MinceRschestowitz: it's ongoingFeb 16 09:36
schestowitzsome seem to be filling positions in Asia, it's the new "hip" thingFeb 16 09:36
schestowitzSome days ago I heard of another one who flad, ended up in FloridaFeb 16 09:37
schestowitzbut they run out of moneyFeb 16 09:37
schestowitzIn the UK tooFeb 16 09:37
schestowitzwhen the students lose their budget from the govt.Feb 16 09:37
MinceRDaemonFC: yet another khtml-based browser?Feb 16 09:37
schestowitzand have to pay the whole tuition bilFeb 16 09:37
schestowitz*billFeb 16 09:37
schestowitz[08:05] <schestowitz> > For interesting medical imaging work related to Medical Physics, you should Feb 16 09:37
schestowitz[08:05] <schestowitz> > check out Ann Arbor, Washington University, Washington State University, Feb 16 09:37
schestowitz[08:05] <schestowitz> > University of New Mexico and a few others.  Unfortunately, all the state Feb 16 09:38
schestowitz[08:05] <schestowitz> > Universities have big budget problems right now and I would not know about PhD Feb 16 09:38
schestowitz[08:05] <schestowitz> > level work.  A quick look through the Wayne State Medical Physics list turns Feb 16 09:38
schestowitz[08:05] <schestowitz> > up a big zero.Feb 16 09:38
schestowitzzero... land of the TSAFeb 16 09:38
schestowitzWell, at least the TSA is hiring !!Feb 16 09:38
schestowitzneed MOAR cappoFeb 16 09:38
oiaohmschestowitz: think of it this way.Feb 16 09:38
MinceRneed moar jackbooted thugs?Feb 16 09:38
oiaohmschestowitz: it could be worse you could be still stuck with windows only.Feb 16 09:38
schestowitzDaemonFC: [sarcasm] buy another gun, they're coming !!! http://www.apfn.org/apfn/camps.htm [/sarcasm]Feb 16 09:39
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/90631999Feb 16 09:41
TechrightsBot-tr@Bradley M. Kuhn (bkuhn)'s status on Wednesday, 15-Feb-12 17:31:21 UTC - Identi.ca: #ELC2012: #Corbet gives what's effectively an !FSF -style "Who's trusted in trusted computing?" lecture in his #UEFI portion of talk.Feb 16 09:41
schestowitzDaemonFC: your country is passing all it's high-technology knowledge to people who take it to the EastFeb 16 09:41
schestowitzit's good for the universities in the short termFeb 16 09:41
schestowitzbecause they fill up positions this way and boost their rankingsFeb 16 09:42
DaemonFCyeah, and if we stopped doing it, you'd complainFeb 16 09:43
DaemonFCscreaming things about protectionismFeb 16 09:43
schestowitzIt's not taking into account the long-term impact, where a nation's own intellectual powerhouses don't pass this knowledge to the next generation. It's like when IBM et al. send their engineers to Indian to train the employees who will later replace them (first announce layoffs, then wait a year, then announce hirings elsewhere)Feb 16 09:43
DaemonFCand nationalismFeb 16 09:43
schestowitzyeahFeb 16 09:43
schestowitzglobalisationFeb 16 09:43
schestowitzBTW, Intel does this too (in India)Feb 16 09:43
DaemonFCI don't buy IntelFeb 16 09:44
schestowitzOne day, as profits declines, they'll say, "no problema"Feb 16 09:44
schestowitzThey have trains substitutesFeb 16 09:44
schestowitzand all they have to do is just pull the rug from beneath the feet of the "expensive" staffFeb 16 09:44
MinceRwell, they've got to prepare for the time when the usa destroys itselfFeb 16 09:44
MinceRbecause "herp derp science is teh unholy"Feb 16 09:45
schestowitzNo paycuts, just expenses cutting... removing staff and using those whom they paid to train, like Caterpillar (temporary employees caterpillar)Feb 16 09:46
schestowitz"Feb 16 09:46
schestowitzThis method of bringing production and demand into line has been used by Caterpillar in the past, mostly recent in the summer of 2007 when it had two one-week shutdowns at its engine plant in Mossville.Feb 16 09:46
schestowitzBefore that it had temporary shutdowns of its plants during the previous recession in the early part of this decade.Feb 16 09:46
schestowitzIt was part of language the company and UAW negotiated in contracts, Doty said. "It's a way to keep the company competitive and able to manage their business while keeping our guys in their jobs. It's much preferable to wide-scale, indefinite layoffs."Feb 16 09:46
schestowitz"Feb 16 09:46
schestowitzhttp://www.pjstar.com/business/x1049860912/Temporary-layoffs-will-idle-some-Caterpillar-plants-in-East-PeoriaFeb 16 09:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Caterpillar plans temporary plant shutdowns, layoffs - Peoria, IL - pjstar.com .::. Size~: 72.2 KBFeb 16 09:47
schestowitzDaemonFC's dad might understand..Feb 16 09:47
schestowitz"The flexible workforce are those that do jobs at Caterpillar, ranging from clerical to material handling to maintenance to manufacturing, but are employed by vendors on a contractual basis. Contract employees are not included among the 112,000 employees Caterpillar has worldwide."Feb 16 09:47
schestowitzIIRC, this practice is illegal in some nationsFeb 16 09:47
schestowitzI think CAT dodges it by offshoring the practiceFeb 16 09:47
schestowitze.g. to south AfricaFeb 16 09:47
schestowitz"The decision to reduce its contract workers - which Caterpillar terms its "flexible workforce" - is part of the strategy and comes after each of the company's business units assessed the 2009 expectations."Feb 16 09:48
schestowitzNopeFeb 16 09:48
schestowitz is part of the strategy to reduce worker securityFeb 16 09:48
DaemonFChe doesn't work for them anymoreFeb 16 09:48
schestowitzmore anxiety for the labour forceFeb 16 09:48
schestowitzless anxiety for shareholdersFeb 16 09:48
DaemonFCthey called him a contractor while he was thereFeb 16 09:48
schestowitzmaybe the workers should put money in the pot and just buy the company they work forFeb 16 09:48
DaemonFCthat way they don't owe you anything that's not in your contractFeb 16 09:48
schestowitzthen they can make decision based on what's good for the company (workers) and not few investors and hedge funds at the topFeb 16 09:49
schestowitzDaemonFC: yupFeb 16 09:49
schestowitztypicalFeb 16 09:49
schestowitzI was also contracted in one of my jobs until recently, the strikes and labour union worked to establish a law thoughFeb 16 09:49
schestowitzSo they *had* to offer me permanent employment with many rights like benefits (not just pension) after 12 months of workFeb 16 09:50
schestowitzMany of those rights rode nowFeb 16 09:50
schestowitzAnd citizens don't fcareFeb 16 09:50
schestowitzThey never saw or remember how hard it was to take those rights and by hard strikes get them as "gifts" from the 1%Feb 16 09:50
schestowitzdisgusting if you ask me...Feb 16 09:50
schestowitzClass warFeb 16 09:51
DaemonFCno, it's only class war when the rich are losingFeb 16 09:51
DaemonFC-Fox NewsFeb 16 09:51
schestowitzworkers have to disrupt nations with massive strikes to get those things, which then get forgotten when people take them for grantedFeb 16 09:51
schestowitzDaemonFC: yeahFeb 16 09:51
schestowitzthey play against the obvious... "oh, you're just creating class war"Feb 16 09:52
schestowitzFox:Feb 16 09:52
schestowitzblaming poor peopleFeb 16 09:52
schestowitzfor the problems created by rich peopleFeb 16 09:52
schestowitzand inciting the middle class against those belowFeb 16 09:52
schestowitzfor the sake of "job creators"Feb 16 09:52
schestowitzDaemonFC: OMG the MEXICANS !!!Feb 16 09:52
schestowitz!google beck obama is a racistFeb 16 09:53
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DaemonFCpeople already sacrifice way too much for employment in most casesFeb 16 09:53
schestowitzHe reverses white guiltFeb 16 09:53
schestowitz"I see what you did there.."Feb 16 09:53
DaemonFCyour employer gets to control your physical appearance, and even things you do and say when you're not at workFeb 16 09:53
schestowitzor off workFeb 16 09:53
schestowitzI got e-mails from Patent Troll Tracker this weekFeb 16 09:54
schestowitzHe became famous for running a blog anonymouslyFeb 16 09:54
schestowitzand got sued by the faher of p[atent trollingFeb 16 09:54
schestowitzThey still harass him over itFeb 16 09:54
schestowitzI had to remove a few postsFeb 16 09:54
schestowitzchmod 000Feb 16 09:54
DaemonFCthere's nothing wrong with demanding anonymity to prevent reprisals from the state, your employer, etc.Feb 16 09:54
schestowitzand I told him, don't let them make your good research vanishFeb 16 09:54
schestowitzDaemonFC: I don't need to shave for workFeb 16 09:55
schestowitzcause I work at homeFeb 16 09:55
schestowitzshower+shave+drive is part of work that's unpaid forFeb 16 09:55
schestowitzfor some people that's well over an hourFeb 16 09:55
schestowitzfor woman who keep up appearance with makeup it's a lot moreFeb 16 09:55
DaemonFCyeahFeb 16 09:55
schestowitzmaybe 3 hoursFeb 16 09:55
schestowitz+9 hours at workFeb 16 09:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Chinese Internet giant #Baidu is reportedly planning to expand into South America - http://tnw.co/xnHW0s potentially big; africa next?Feb 16 09:55
schestowitzif not 12Feb 16 09:55
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schestowitzand that's it, they got you by the ballsFeb 16 09:55
DaemonFCthen you have them telling you things like you have to shave, and you can't have tattoos or piercingsFeb 16 09:56
DaemonFCand how your hair has to lookFeb 16 09:56
DaemonFCand if you can wear a hat or notFeb 16 09:56
MinceRsometimes even that you have to wear a suitFeb 16 09:56
schestowitzThe rest of the time you wash your clothes, eat, sleep to serve a tired body, maybe -- JUST MAYBE - find time for the gymFeb 16 09:56
MinceR(which is about as impractical as clothing goes)Feb 16 09:56
DaemonFCunless you can argue that not complying is due to your superstitious beliefsFeb 16 09:56
schestowitzNo wonder many people end up obese, on anti-depressants...Feb 16 09:56
schestowitz[09:56] <MinceR> sometimes even that you have to wear a suitFeb 16 09:57
schestowitzprogrammers too?Feb 16 09:57
schestowitznot customer-facingFeb 16 09:57
DaemonFCyou have a double standard where you can get special rights just by claiming you belong to a certain superstition Feb 16 09:57
schestowitzyeahFeb 16 09:57
schestowitzbut,..Feb 16 09:58
DaemonFCand that double standard is enshrined in lawFeb 16 09:58
schestowitznot if you believe Elvis is aliveFeb 16 09:58
DaemonFCand the employer can get in trouble by making cultists follow the same rules everyone else has toFeb 16 09:58
MinceRschestowitz: not usually necessaryFeb 16 09:58
schestowitz Elvis is alive, to use Sam Harris' analogy, is not an official religion yetFeb 16 09:58
schestowitzSame for "Santa is real"Feb 16 09:58
MinceRnot in any of my jobs, but the informational materials weren't too explicitFeb 16 09:58
schestowitzScientology is also ridiculed out of legitimacyFeb 16 09:58
MinceRsadly, not out of tax breaks and tax money, thoughFeb 16 09:59
schestowitzAlthough their mythology is more probable than all those of monotheistic religionsFeb 16 09:59
schestowitzDaemonFC: can a Scirentologist demand half an hour a day for prayed on a mattress? And if so, will that be frowned upon by $employer?Feb 16 09:59
DaemonFC"You have to shave and take off that hat" *Employee points to a Muslim employee of the same company* "But he gets to wear a long beard and that funny hat!"Feb 16 09:59
MinceRalso, i'm not sure if they've managed to remove the spies of the clams from the usian government and the IRS yetFeb 16 09:59
DaemonFCEmployer: "That's different!"Feb 16 09:59
DaemonFCoh, I see, in that case I'm whatever he isFeb 16 10:00
DaemonFCcan't touch thisFeb 16 10:00
DaemonFCstopFeb 16 10:00
DaemonFChammer timeFeb 16 10:00
MinceRlolFeb 16 10:00
schestowitzDaemonFC: Burger Kind tell you ti remove piercingsFeb 16 10:00
schestowitzThe reasoning is, it reduces higience in the kitchenFeb 16 10:00
schestowitz*hygiene Feb 16 10:00
schestowitzAnd people with an "official" beard \(not stubble) get away with itFeb 16 10:01
schestowitzIf you're head-shaved, you still need to weara  hatFeb 16 10:01
schestowitzaka "uniform"Feb 16 10:01
DaemonFCschestowitz: I had a beard at one point when I worked at a factory, it wasn't even really longFeb 16 10:01
schestowitzRob a man his individuality (like the military does with trimmers), then it's easier to commandFeb 16 10:01
DaemonFCsupervisor came up one day and said if I wanted to keep my job I had to shave it offFeb 16 10:01
DaemonFCbecause it might get caught in a machineFeb 16 10:01
schestowitzat least he was polite LOLFeb 16 10:02
DaemonFC"What the hell do you think I'm going to do? Stick my face in the fucking thing!?"Feb 16 10:02
DaemonFC:)Feb 16 10:02
schestowitz"shave it or BE UNEMPLOYED!"Feb 16 10:02
MinceRsuch accidents can happenFeb 16 10:02
schestowitzThe machines don't get a hardon for workers with a beardFeb 16 10:02
MinceRand then the employee could sue the employerFeb 16 10:02
schestowitzthey want you clean-shavedFeb 16 10:02
schestowitztell you employerFeb 16 10:02
schestowitzneed I kiss those machines?Feb 16 10:02
DaemonFCMinceR: He could have handed me a beard waiverFeb 16 10:02
DaemonFCB-)Feb 16 10:02
schestowitzebard waver = beaver?Feb 16 10:03
schestowitz*waiverFeb 16 10:03
DaemonFCForm F-10293-B /AFeb 16 10:03
schestowitz"Sir, I would like to have a beaver for my beard"Feb 16 10:04
DaemonFCWaiver of personal injury due to beardFeb 16 10:04
DaemonFChe's a politician, you know he has thoseFeb 16 10:04
schestowitzfirst they grow a beard... before you know it the factory will be FULL OF STALINS !!!Feb 16 10:04
MinceRhaving a beard turns you into stalin?Feb 16 10:05
schestowitzyesFeb 16 10:05
schestowitzit all starts thereFeb 16 10:05
schestowitzfirst the musicFeb 16 10:05
schestowitzMAnsonFeb 16 10:05
MinceRhow long does it have to be?Feb 16 10:05
schestowitzand then violent computer gameFeb 16 10:05
DaemonFCHungary still has that Stalin's Boots statue, paying homage to the Communist dictator who spontaneously combustedFeb 16 10:05
schestowitzand then French coat mafia-inspired Bowling in Columbine!Feb 16 10:05
MinceRoh noes, i'm at the violent computer game phase alreadyFeb 16 10:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Online #Copyright: EU Court of Justice Rules Out Private and Automatic #Censorship - http://bit.ly/x2hGZh great news #sabamFeb 16 10:05
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Online Copyright: EU Court of Justice Rules Out Private and Automatic Censorship | La Quadrature du Net .::. Size~: 31.28 KBFeb 16 10:05
MinceRstrangely enough, i play those games even when i don't have stubbleFeb 16 10:06
MinceRmust be a flaw in this theory of yours :>Feb 16 10:06
DaemonFCbut I doubt it was because of his beardFeb 16 10:06
MinceR110518 < DaemonFC> Hungary still has that Stalin's Boots statue, paying homage to the Communist dictator who spontaneously combustedFeb 16 10:06
MinceRthat's nothingFeb 16 10:06
schestowitzthere's this bunch of very old people (like 80) who think the youngsters turn to villains if they do stuff that old folks never didFeb 16 10:06
MinceRwe still have a monument on the so-called "freedom square" that praises the russian "liberators" and their soldiersFeb 16 10:06
schestowitz"it all starts with LIBERALISM!!"Feb 16 10:06
MinceRnot only did our fucking commie government (after the dictatorship supposedly ended) defend it using police forceFeb 16 10:07
DaemonFCMinceR: You mean the peace delegation that brought guns to enforce the peace withFeb 16 10:07
MinceRbut our current national socialist government hasn't torn it down eitherFeb 16 10:07
DaemonFCagainst Hungarian domestic terroristsFeb 16 10:07
DaemonFCB-)Feb 16 10:07
MinceRlike i said, hungaristan is a fucking jokeFeb 16 10:07
schestowitzMinceR: Kalashnikov sqr.Feb 16 10:07
MinceRthen again, most of the nazis are former commies tooFeb 16 10:08
schestowitzthey rebrandedFeb 16 10:08
DaemonFCMinceR: The central bank there is giving poor people wads of recycled cash to burn to stay warm nowFeb 16 10:08
schestowitzlike whitenet houstonFeb 16 10:08
DaemonFCtalk about contempt for the poorFeb 16 10:08
schestowitz*WhitneyFeb 16 10:08
MinceRorban was a member of the youth organization of the commie partyFeb 16 10:08
MinceRothers were members of the party itselfFeb 16 10:08
MinceRand then they make this frothing-at-the-mouth show of opposing the commiesFeb 16 10:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Civilized flamewar on licensing stuff here. As extended version of current twitter discussion. Keep it nice. Trolls keep out. #kthxbaiFeb 16 10:09
MinceRwhile being no different from themFeb 16 10:09
schestowitzpoliticians become stranger through oppositionFeb 16 10:09
schestowitzthey need to pretend to oppose somehtingFeb 16 10:09
schestowitzeven if one anotherFeb 16 10:09
schestowitzthen they "stand up" for youFeb 16 10:09
MinceRDaemonFC: what, you think the hungarian government's going to care about poor people freezing to death?Feb 16 10:09
schestowitzand gain powerFeb 16 10:09
MinceRDaemonFC: none of orban's friends are poor, so poor people don't matterFeb 16 10:09
schestowitzand find some "danger" like Nazis or some external enemies to "protect" you fromFeb 16 10:10
DaemonFCMinceR: The money for them to burn for heat is the rich people's way of making fun of the poor peopleFeb 16 10:10
schestowitzEven if they themselves are no better than those "Nazis"Feb 16 10:10
DaemonFC"Oh you're cold? Here's some money that was starting to fade for you to burn, we were done with it."Feb 16 10:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[torproject/@torproject] Not sure how to get started with #Tor? Check out the short user manual: https://www.torproject.org/dist/manual/short-user-manual_en.xhtmlFeb 16 10:10
schestowitzit probablyhas bad chremical in itFeb 16 10:10
TechrightsBot-trNot a web page! Aborting application/xhtml+xml typeFeb 16 10:10
schestowitzmade in Germany with plastics and stuffFeb 16 10:10
schestowitzso the fumes will poison themFeb 16 10:11
MinceRone of the leading nazi politicians said "whoever doesn't have anything is worth that much"Feb 16 10:11
schestowitzand this way they'll get buried more quickly, problem solvedFeb 16 10:11
MinceReven though he stole everything he hadFeb 16 10:11
DaemonFCMinceR: You mean he earned itFeb 16 10:11
DaemonFCby creating jobsFeb 16 10:11
DaemonFC:DFeb 16 10:11
schestowitzblechFeb 16 10:11
schestowitz"creating jobs"Feb 16 10:11
DaemonFCGLORIOUS JOBS!Feb 16 10:11
schestowitzpoliticians, aka failed lawyers, claim to "Create" somethingFeb 16 10:12
schestowitzSomeone makes a companyFeb 16 10:12
MinceRDaemonFC: nopeFeb 16 10:12
schestowitzand some charlatan claims credit for itFeb 16 10:12
schestowitzorFeb 16 10:12
schestowitzpoliticians takes taxpayers money, passes it to private company of a mate, claims to have crated jobsFeb 16 10:12
DaemonFC40 million pages of legal code doesn't create anything except a clusterfuck that's impossible for any human being to keep track ofFeb 16 10:12
schestowitzreality: he stole money from the public to help a mate make a franchise on the back of the peopleFeb 16 10:12
DaemonFCand that's why there is that much of itFeb 16 10:12
DaemonFCnobody is really sure what's legalFeb 16 10:12
schestowitzpaying a wage to pay back for the robberyFeb 16 10:12
schestowitzwhile pocketing much of the profit (centralisation)Feb 16 10:13
DaemonFCit's basically impossible for anyone to say they've never broken a law where they could have ended up in jail for it if the circumstances had been just rightFeb 16 10:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Library Closure of Type .nu - http://bit.ly/zK4i36 great background & analysis of library.nu takedown #ebooks #piracyFeb 16 10:14
DaemonFCthere's so many legal encumbrances on us now that it's impossible for anyone to say that with certaintyFeb 16 10:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Library Closure of Type .nu « kNOw Future Inc. .::. Size~: 54.94 KBFeb 16 10:14
schestowitz"all hail slackware :) " https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1303595Feb 16 10:14
TechrightsBot-tr@: Feb 16 10:14
schestowitzDaemonFC: we need simplified lawsFeb 16 10:14
schestowitzfor people to be able to sign or petition onFeb 16 10:15
DaemonFCschestowitz: That used MP3 sale court case was...encouragingFeb 16 10:15
schestowitzlike "Don't be a dick"Feb 16 10:15
DaemonFCbut I expect that a higher court will overturn itFeb 16 10:15
schestowitzNot some 215-section documentFeb 16 10:15
DaemonFCbecause the last thing Apple wants is for it to be legal to sell your rights to music you bought from their storeFeb 16 10:15
DaemonFC200+ years of legal precedent be damnedFeb 16 10:15
DaemonFCApple might lose salesFeb 16 10:16
DaemonFCsomething must be done!Feb 16 10:16
schestowitziophk: http://mrpogson.com/2012/02/15/shocking-news-about-public-key-encryption/Feb 16 10:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Shocking News About Public-Key Encryption at  Robert Pogson .::. Size~: 34.04 KBFeb 16 10:16
schestowitzThe law serves corporationFeb 16 10:17
schestowitzwhen the law does not, then it's brokenFeb 16 10:17
schestowitzso it gets amended :-)Feb 16 10:17
DaemonFCI don't know why people use Mozilla SyncFeb 16 10:18
DaemonFCcopy your profile onto a thumb drive now and thenFeb 16 10:18
DaemonFCif it gets stuffed, delete it and restore the backed up profileFeb 16 10:18
MinceRi keep my profile on my laptop :>Feb 16 10:18
DaemonFCnothing ever needs to be stored on a remote server waiting for them to be served with an order to hand it overFeb 16 10:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] It can’t be! – The tablet hit with consumers! http://ur1.ca/879io... http://b1t.it/aQx0Feb 16 10:19
TechrightsBot-trTitle: ur1 Generator .::. Size~: 2.26 KBFeb 16 10:19
TechrightsBot-tr@: Feb 16 10:19
DaemonFCthe way US federal law is now, the FBI can go and make Mozilla or Google hand over all your dataFeb 16 10:20
DaemonFCwith no court orderFeb 16 10:20
DaemonFCand it's illegal for them to tell anyone it ever happenedFeb 16 10:20
DaemonFCif you insist on using Chrome's remote profile backups, you should change it to "encrypt everything" and to use a password that is not attached to your Google accountFeb 16 10:21
schestowitzblech. Google.Feb 16 10:22
DaemonFCif you use your Google password, then the feds can force Google to decrypt everything right thereFeb 16 10:22
schestowitzsee, kde and mozilla are too small to harvest dataFeb 16 10:22
schestowitzthey won't expand in that directionFeb 16 10:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Freedom Doesn't Have Any Lobbyists http://ur1.ca/879kj #freedomFeb 16 10:22
DaemonFCand then they know your bookmarks, history, everything you've downloadedFeb 16 10:22
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Simon Phipps: Freedom Doesn't Have Any Lobbyists | Muktware .::. Size~: 40.66 KBFeb 16 10:22
DaemonFCwhat extensions you haveFeb 16 10:22
DaemonFCall your preferences for the extensionsFeb 16 10:22
schestowitzapple, ms, goog and others have businesses around profilingFeb 16 10:22
DaemonFCand all your site passwordsFeb 16 10:22
schestowitzmozilla might as well just channel all log data to /dev.null/Feb 16 10:23
schestowitz*/Feb 16 10:23
DaemonFCschestowitz: Jacob Appelbaum's Linuxconf AU keynote was a good oneFeb 16 10:23
DaemonFCI liked what he said about metadataFeb 16 10:23
DaemonFCany one piece may not give the person looking at it any valuable information about youFeb 16 10:24
DaemonFCbut the more they have, the more of a story it starts telling them about youFeb 16 10:24
schestowitzyeahFeb 16 10:24
schestowitzlike medical conditions, thoughts, ideasFeb 16 10:24
schestowitzeven problems you have with your computerFeb 16 10:25
DaemonFCGoogle and Facebook have gotten data mining down to a scienceFeb 16 10:25
schestowitzerror messagesFeb 16 10:25
schestowitzyeahFeb 16 10:25
schestowitzthey bought companies that specialise in itFeb 16 10:25
schestowitzthe product is the userFeb 16 10:25
DaemonFCif you use either one for a reasonable amount of time, your entire life story starts coming together for them to readFeb 16 10:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Taste KDE 4.8 Goodies With Chakra Archimedes! http://ur1.ca/879lm #kdeFeb 16 10:25
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Taste KDE 4.8 Goodies With Chakra Archimedes! | Muktware .::. Size~: 31.95 KBFeb 16 10:25
DaemonFCright, Facebook, Google, Bing, Yahoo.....etc.Feb 16 10:26
DaemonFCnone of them are really freeFeb 16 10:26
DaemonFCyou're paying them with your personal informationFeb 16 10:26
DaemonFCthey sift through it, use it to target you with advertisingFeb 16 10:26
DaemonFCand then it sits there waiting for the government to become interested in itFeb 16 10:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Every EU country needs a Digital Champion! http://ur1.ca/879nq #euFeb 16 10:27
DaemonFCschestowitz: I use Google Talk, but I make sure all my contacts have OTRFeb 16 10:27
schestowitzDaemonFC: that's a side effectFeb 16 10:27
DaemonFCand that the shared secret isn't discussed over GoogleFeb 16 10:28
schestowitzOTR?Feb 16 10:28
schestowitzskype is just as badFeb 16 10:28
schestowitzand MS now has people's address booksFeb 16 10:28
TechrightsBot-trError processing the URLFeb 16 10:28
DaemonFChttp://www.cypherpunks.ca/otr/Feb 16 10:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Off-the-Record Messaging .::. Size~: 14.63 KBFeb 16 10:28
schestowitzto complement the data Facebookberg passes themFeb 16 10:28
schestowitzFacebookberg will integrate with MSkypeFeb 16 10:28
DaemonFCyou can use OTR over Facebook chat too, since it has nothing to do with the protocol you're usingFeb 16 10:29
schestowitz!google creepy zuckerberg 10 secondsFeb 16 10:29
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Way to be creepy, Zuckerberg | walls of the city | http://www.wallsofthecity.net/2011/08/way-to-be-creepy-zuckerberg.htmlFeb 16 10:29
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - IRC: #boycottnovell-social @ FreeNode: January 19th, 2012 | http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/irc-log-social-19012012.htmlFeb 16 10:29
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Broadcast Yourself. - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/all_comments%3Fv%3DrgfFoZ8tq5w%26page%3D2Feb 16 10:29
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Zuckerberg! The REAL Social Network Movie | Babelgum | http://www.babelgum.com/6002714/zuckerberg-the-real-social-network-movie.htmlFeb 16 10:29
DaemonFCyou just have to use a client that supports OTR on both endsFeb 16 10:29
DaemonFCbut Facebook has their web chat thingy pop up while you're browsing their site, and it reflects whatever you're doing with an XMPP client like Kopete or Pidgin at the momentFeb 16 10:30
DaemonFCso isntead of plain human readable messages, you get the encrypted chatter popping up in that boxFeb 16 10:30
DaemonFC:)Feb 16 10:30
DaemonFCschestowitz: There's an OTR plug-in for the Windows versions of Windows Live Messenger and Yahoo MessengerFeb 16 10:31
DaemonFCbut since they interact with a proprietary client, you can't trust themFeb 16 10:31
DaemonFCif you use OTR you should make sure that the person you're speaking to is using a free software instant messengerFeb 16 10:32
DaemonFCotherwise the messenger software itself could start leaking your conversation data to whoever placed a back door into itFeb 16 10:32
DaemonFCbut to you and your contact it would look like nothing was wrongFeb 16 10:32
DaemonFCit's more than likely that Windows Live Messenger and Yahoo and AIM have backdoors in the official client software itselfFeb 16 10:33
DaemonFCand it's safe to assume that their chat server is logging all the traffic that goes through it even if you're not using their official softwareFeb 16 10:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[torproject/@torproject] Obfsproxy: the next step in the censorship arms race - https://blog.torproject.org/blog/obfsproxy-next-step-censorship-arms-raceFeb 16 10:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Obfsproxy: the next step in the censorship arms race | The Tor Blog .::. Size~: 22.83 KBFeb 16 10:34
schestowitzDaemonFC: indeedFeb 16 10:34
schestowitzsame for other means of voice communicationFeb 16 10:34
schestowitzin the UK at leastFeb 16 10:34
schestowitzI just always assume that face to face is the only private communication I haveFeb 16 10:35
schestowitzor PGP-encrypted mailFeb 16 10:35
schestowitzin the US they can now open snail mail envelopesFeb 16 10:35
schestowitzanthrax LOLFeb 16 10:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Is Copyright Enforcement Hopeless? http://ur1.ca/879qv #drmFeb 16 10:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Is Copyright Enforcement Hopeless? | Mother Jones .::. Size~: 89.63 KBFeb 16 10:35
DaemonFCschestowitz: encryption might even give you some legal protection even if the government manages to break itFeb 16 10:36
DaemonFCby using it, you're obviously taking measures to communicate privatelyFeb 16 10:36
schestowitzObamaBush must LOVE anthraxFeb 16 10:36
DaemonFCand courts sometimes hold that to a higher standardFeb 16 10:36
schestowitzyeahFeb 16 10:36
schestowitzbutFeb 16 10:36
schestowitz!google judge forces encrypted laptopFeb 16 10:36
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Ramona Fricosu Is Ordered By Judge To Decrypt Laptop In Bank ... | http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/25/ramona-fricosu-laptop_n_1230829.htmlFeb 16 10:36
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - In re Boucher - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_re_BoucherFeb 16 10:36
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Fed. Judge to Decide if Gov't Can Force Defendant to Unlock ... | http://www.sodahead.com/living/fed-judge-to-decide-if-govt-can-force-defendant-to-unlock-encrypted-laptop/question-2415521/Feb 16 10:36
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Judge: Fifth Amendment doesn't protect encrypted hard drives | http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2012/01/judge-fifth-amendment-doesnt-protect-encrypted-hard-drives.arsFeb 16 10:36
DaemonFCschestowitz: The correct response to that is that you can't remember the passwordFeb 16 10:37
schestowitzThere's an implicit supposition hereFeb 16 10:37
schestowitzthat is:Feb 16 10:37
DaemonFCthe court can't order you to do somethjing you can't doFeb 16 10:37
schestowitzgovernments are always justFeb 16 10:37
schestowitzPeople of a nation are always potential enemyFeb 16 10:37
DaemonFCand they can't probve whether you know it or notFeb 16 10:37
schestowitzbut never the oppositeFeb 16 10:37
schestowitzlike a state taken over by neo-Nazis and people fighting to cleanse politicsFeb 16 10:38
DaemonFCthe government gets away with a lot of things that it shouldn't because they bluff and nobody calls them on itFeb 16 10:38
DaemonFCbecause they're too afraid to demand their rightsFeb 16 10:38
schestowitzpeople at schools are usually just taught success stories of civicsFeb 16 10:38
schestowitznot Mugabe or whateverFeb 16 10:38
schestowitzDaemonFC: Feb 16 10:39
DaemonFCif they can get you to waive your rights, then your rights can no longer protect youFeb 16 10:39
schestowitz!google boot on their neck michael mooreFeb 16 10:39
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Occupy America: Michael Moore Gets to the Heart of the Matter ... | http://fremontwatch.wordpress.com/2011/10/15/occupy-america-michael-moore-gets-to-the-heart-of-the-matter-working-people-want-the-boot-off-of-their-necks/Feb 16 10:39
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Michael Moore on Student Debt: 'The Boot on Your Neck' - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DM16NjL6Ja2QFeb 16 10:39
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Michael Moore on Student Debt: 'The Boot on Your Neck' - Video ... | http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xm7yjo_michael-moore-on-student-debt-the-boot-on-your-neck_newsFeb 16 10:39
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Michael Moore: US founded on genocide and slaves | Campaign ... | http://campaign2012.washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/beltway-confidential/michael-moore-us-founded-genocide-and-slaves/326171Feb 16 10:39
DaemonFCso the first thing they do, before anything else, is try to trick you into waiving your rightsFeb 16 10:39
DaemonFCthen they try to get a confessionFeb 16 10:39
DaemonFCWhen dealing with the police, it's better to assume that everything they're saying to you could be a lieFeb 16 10:40
schestowitzorFeb 16 10:40
DaemonFCdon't answer any questions they ask that you're not legally obligated to answerFeb 16 10:40
schestowitzthat they'll lie about what happenedFeb 16 10:40
schestowitzI pasted somwthing about that yesterdayFeb 16 10:40
DaemonFCthey'll try to manipulate youFeb 16 10:41
DaemonFCwhatever they do, don't talk to themFeb 16 10:41
DaemonFCschestowitz: Indiana has a stop and identify lawFeb 16 10:41
schestowitzyeahFeb 16 10:41
schestowitzexploiting ignorance of the lawFeb 16 10:42
schestowitzthe usual loopholeFeb 16 10:42
DaemonFCyou can be arrested for refusing to identify yourself to a police officerFeb 16 10:42
DaemonFCso identify yourselfFeb 16 10:42
schestowitz"you have two guns, not one"Feb 16 10:42
DaemonFCthen don't say anything moreFeb 16 10:42
schestowitzto ensure there's no chance one is hiddenFeb 16 10:42
DaemonFCIndiana also assumes that any detention is voluntaryFeb 16 10:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Ubuntu and ‘unity’ in the same headline, but guess what? http://goo.gl/Wui24 #ubuntuFeb 16 10:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #SABAM vs Netlog - another important ruling for fundamental rights - http://bit.ly/AqhK6L excellent, detailed analysis (v @Adv007) #ACTAFeb 16 10:42
schestowitzfabricationFeb 16 10:42
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Tutu speaks of Ubuntu, or ‘unity’ at Framingham State - Framingham, MA - The MetroWest Daily News .::. Size~: 65.41 KBFeb 16 10:42
DaemonFCuntil you ask if you can leaveFeb 16 10:42
TechrightsBot-trTitle: SABAM vs Netlog - another important ruling for fundamental rights  | EDRI .::. Size~: 13.79 KBFeb 16 10:42
DaemonFCso the first chance you get, ask them if you're free to leaveFeb 16 10:42
schestowitzand don't say your nameFeb 16 10:43
schestowitzfind theirsFeb 16 10:43
schestowitzon the badgeFeb 16 10:43
DaemonFCat that point, they either arrest you or let you goFeb 16 10:43
DaemonFCif they don't have cause to arrest you, they try to keep you there "voluntarily"Feb 16 10:43
DaemonFCit's not their problem if you don't know you can ask to leaveFeb 16 10:43
schestowitzbut usually they stop people who, unlike you, don't know their rightsFeb 16 10:44
schestowitzand then get gamedFeb 16 10:44
DaemonFCthey want to keep you under this "voluntary" detention long enough to go fishing and find a reason to arrest youFeb 16 10:44
DaemonFCschestowitz: There's a lot of information out there about how to properly handle police encountersFeb 16 10:45
schestowitzUbuntu vs. Vista 7 on the business desktop | IT PRO ReviewsFeb 16 10:45
DaemonFCincluding a very good speech on Youtube from a constitutional law professorFeb 16 10:45
schestowitzLOLFeb 16 10:45
schestowitzbusinessFeb 16 10:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Ubuntu vs. Windows 7 on the business desktop http://ur1.ca/879zc #linuxFeb 16 10:45
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ubuntu vs. Windows 7 on the business desktop | IT PRO Reviews .::. Size~: 76.27 KBFeb 16 10:45
schestowitzDaemonFC: yes, they can fish or make stuff upFeb 16 10:45
schestowitzmoreover, others can make stuff up about youFeb 16 10:46
DaemonFCschestowitz: I was out walking one night, several years ago.Feb 16 10:46
schestowitzparents, kids, spouse, colleagueFeb 16 10:46
schestowitzso they can go collecting for something that's a mere suspicionFeb 16 10:46
DaemonFCI lived about a block from Walmart and I was bored, so I decided I'd walk over there and walk around for a while and browse the store.Feb 16 10:46
DaemonFCit was a warm night out, good weather for a walkFeb 16 10:46
schestowitzI was always advice, stay away from police in generalFeb 16 10:46
schestowitznot to even exist on their systemFeb 16 10:46
schestowitzeither as a witness or anything else...Feb 16 10:46
DaemonFCa police cruiser flips on the lights and pulls over to the sidewalkFeb 16 10:46
schestowitzThey do searches on people's namesFeb 16 10:47
schestowitzeven family members of theirsFeb 16 10:47
DaemonFCthe cop asked me what I was doing and where I was goingFeb 16 10:47
DaemonFCI told her I was just out for a walkFeb 16 10:47
schestowitzand if one participates in a protest and gets recognised, they can get a record (red flag)Feb 16 10:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Obfsproxy: the next step in the #censorship arms race - http://bit.ly/zvQDhj "change how #Tor traffic looks to nw"; cool (v @birgittaj)Feb 16 10:47
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Obfsproxy: the next step in the censorship arms race | The Tor Blog .::. Size~: 22.83 KBFeb 16 10:47
DaemonFCshe asked to see my ID (Indiana law says this is mandatory), so I compliedFeb 16 10:47
schestowitzDaemonFC: just out, eh?Feb 16 10:47
schestowitzFor a "walk"Feb 16 10:47
DaemonFCyeahFeb 16 10:47
schestowitzLike a terrorist would :-)Feb 16 10:47
DaemonFCshe runs my licenseFeb 16 10:48
schestowitzTerrorists usually walk before they blow stuff up, even themselvesFeb 16 10:48
DaemonFCobviously there's no warrants out on me or whatever, so she starts asking me a bunch of questionsFeb 16 10:48
schestowitz"Are you  terrorist?"Feb 16 10:48
schestowitzA: noFeb 16 10:48
schestowitz"That's what a terrorist would say"Feb 16 10:48
DaemonFCI said something like "Officer, I have already told you what I am doing and I have identified myself in accordance with state law. Am I free to go now or am I being detained?"Feb 16 10:48
DaemonFCshe stopped and looked at me for a momentFeb 16 10:49
DaemonFCand then said "Yeah, go on, leave. Have a nice night"Feb 16 10:49
DaemonFC:)Feb 16 10:49
schestowitzheheFeb 16 10:49
DaemonFCthey'll sit there and let you tell them your life storyFeb 16 10:50
DaemonFCyou look suspicious to them, so they'll sit there and listenFeb 16 10:50
DaemonFCmaybe pick up some nuggets that lead them to something "useful"Feb 16 10:50
schestowitzthey look for easy numbersFeb 16 10:50
schestowitzpeople they can put in reportsFeb 16 10:50
schestowitzto show deliveryFeb 16 10:50
schestowitzlike number of arrestsFeb 16 10:50
schestowitzand when you know the law they realise you're no buyer, so to speakFeb 16 10:51
schestowitzlike a time waster at a store or restaurantFeb 16 10:51
schestowitzso they move onFeb 16 10:51
schestowitzI only once was asked for identification by a policeman, like 12 years agoFeb 16 10:51
DaemonFCI think it's ridiculous that they have all this free time to pull over and harass some guy that's just out for a walkFeb 16 10:51
schestowitzI declined, had no form of ID, was let to walk on immediatelyFeb 16 10:51
DaemonFCif you have no form of ID, the law says you must tell them your name and your addressFeb 16 10:52
DaemonFClying about it is a misdemeanor Feb 16 10:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] La France Forte de Nicolas #Sarkozy est en fait grecque ! - http://bit.ly/zvtyTB whoops (v @gchampeau) #france #greeceFeb 16 10:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: La France Forte de Nicolas Sarkozy est en fait grecque ! .::. Size~: 77.53 KBFeb 16 10:52
schestowitzit seemed at the time that the policeman had no reason to do so other than to say "I did this and that today"Feb 16 10:52
schestowitzI was wearing shorts and went to a filmFeb 16 10:52
schestowitzIIRCFeb 16 10:52
schestowitzwith gym bagFeb 16 10:53
schestowitzclassic terrorist... gym bad and shorts LOLFeb 16 10:53
schestowitz*bagFeb 16 10:53
DaemonFCbe polite, but don't let them walk all over youFeb 16 10:53
DaemonFCand if they do arrest you, don't resist themFeb 16 10:53
DaemonFCand shut upFeb 16 10:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Trimble Yuma military-grade Rugged tablets runs on Ubuntu http://goo.gl/M7NxE #gnu #linuxFeb 16 10:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Trimble Yuma military-grade Rugged tablets runs on Ubuntu | Brunei NEWS, Brunei HEADLINES from Brunei fm .::. Size~: 50.23 KBFeb 16 10:54
schestowitzI'd never be arrested, I don't stand in the front lineFeb 16 10:54
schestowitzI also removed myself from profiles associated with my activismFeb 16 10:54
schestowitzless personified this wayFeb 16 10:54
schestowitzHeh. My g/f said she worried I'd get in trouble, I showed her that my accounts are generic for this reason.Feb 16 10:55
DaemonFCI expect that I might have a bench warrant come up soon. I owe the hospital for that seizure I had in 2009, and they're threatening to "turn the case over to their attorney."Feb 16 10:55
schestowitzstill?Feb 16 10:55
schestowitzand how is that a crime?Feb 16 10:55
DaemonFCand this town has a nasty way about isuing bench warrants instead of just an order to appearFeb 16 10:55
schestowitz"That's a nice cat you got there"Feb 16 10:55
DaemonFCschestowitz: A bench warrant doesn't mean you have committed a crime.Feb 16 10:55
DaemonFCany judge can issue oneFeb 16 10:55
schestowitzThough I reckon you'd use your revolvers before they lay their hands on your catFeb 16 10:56
DaemonFCit means "find this guy and bring him to me"Feb 16 10:56
DaemonFCbill collectors get judges to use them to arrest people who owe them moneyFeb 16 10:56
DaemonFCand make them sit in jail overnight before they can go see the judgeFeb 16 10:56
schestowitzlike people sending lawyers and couriers to personally serve some legal docs?Feb 16 10:57
schestowitzI think SCO tried doing this to PJ at one stageFeb 16 10:57
DaemonFCworseFeb 16 10:57
schestowitzbefore I went totally bustFeb 16 10:57
DaemonFCyou'll be going about your business one dayFeb 16 10:57
DaemonFCand the sheriff will knock on the doorFeb 16 10:57
DaemonFCand arrest youFeb 16 10:57
schestowitzor come to your workFeb 16 10:57
DaemonFCso you can sit in jail overnight before appearing in civil courtFeb 16 10:57
schestowitzto serve some letter, element of surpriseFeb 16 10:57
DaemonFCregarding what could be as little as $20Feb 16 10:57
DaemonFCit's to scare you and put the bill collector in a better position to get you to pay up Feb 16 10:58
DaemonFCon their termsFeb 16 10:58
schestowitzit's detrreanceFeb 16 10:58
schestowitz"you can't hide"|Feb 16 10:58
schestowitz"don't bother trying"Feb 16 10:58
schestowitz*deterrenceFeb 16 10:58
schestowitz"We want to stick stuff in our mouth" (for DNA samples)Feb 16 10:59
schestowitz /s/our/your/Feb 16 10:59
DaemonFCschestowitz: Yeah, they fingerprint you while you're thereFeb 16 10:59
DaemonFCbut the state of Indiana doesn't let them take DNAFeb 16 10:59
schestowitzI saw one such kit last weekFeb 16 10:59
DaemonFC(yet)Feb 16 10:59
DaemonFCthe Republicans are trying to change thatFeb 16 10:59
schestowitzalong with the docs that come with itFeb 16 10:59
schestowitzIt's good to become familiar with the legal process and rights here, so as to avoid being manipulated into databases or accusations made against youFeb 16 11:00
schestowitzvery trigger-happy the lawyers in the UK, in some areas worse than in the USFeb 16 11:00
DaemonFCit's bad that a person has to know so much just so that they're not in their playing the game without knowing the rulesFeb 16 11:01
DaemonFC*thereFeb 16 11:01
schestowitzhttp://www.engadget.com/2012/02/09/canonical-to-end-official-kubuntu-support/Feb 16 11:01
DaemonFCthe state makes no particular effort to educate people about their legal rightsFeb 16 11:01
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DaemonFCor what the law actually saysFeb 16 11:01
schestowitzDaemonFC: they can make up rulesFeb 16 11:01
DaemonFCit never comes up in schoolFeb 16 11:01
schestowitztemporarilyFeb 16 11:01
schestowitzit's not an offence if it's part of a trickFeb 16 11:01
schestowitzand then they play stick and carrotFeb 16 11:02
schestowitzor bad cop, good copFeb 16 11:02
DaemonFCthey don't want a well informed publicFeb 16 11:02
DaemonFCthey want the deck to be stackedFeb 16 11:02
schestowitz[11:01] <DaemonFC> the state makes no particular effort to educate people about their legal rightsFeb 16 11:02
schestowitzYes, been said many times beforeFeb 16 11:02
DaemonFCthey want a public that doesn't know they have rightsFeb 16 11:02
schestowitzschool doesn't teach that, not that it would take too much time. Maybe 3 classes for the basics.Feb 16 11:02
schestowitz[11:02] <DaemonFC> they want a public that doesn't know they have rights   << right, and to overtrust authorityFeb 16 11:03
schestowitzbe it govt. military, allies from abroad (like the US for us in the UK)Feb 16 11:03
schestowitzdon't question, trustFeb 16 11:03
DaemonFCthey know how to manipulate the average personFeb 16 11:04
DaemonFCthey do it all the time and it usually worksFeb 16 11:04
schestowitzeasier confessionsFeb 16 11:05
schestowitzcheaperFeb 16 11:05
schestowitzthe problem isFeb 16 11:05
schestowitzsame tricks being used to trip up good peopleFeb 16 11:05
DaemonFCright, they don't care about finding the right guyFeb 16 11:05
DaemonFCthey care about case closure rateFeb 16 11:05
schestowitzlike those who work against the state when it goes rogue. Remember that police can be mercenaries for the state owners.Feb 16 11:05
DaemonFCeven if they majorly fucked up the caseFeb 16 11:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Ubuntu & #Debian top community poll http://ur1.ca/87aec #linuxFeb 16 11:05
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DaemonFCas long as it's closedFeb 16 11:05
schestowitzyou can see it in the pressFeb 16 11:06
schestowitzthey describe it as failure when one is accused of murder but the judge says there is not sufficient evidenceFeb 16 11:06
schestowitzas if, trial by mediaFeb 16 11:06
DaemonFCthat's why you have that innocence project springing hundreds of innocent people who were wrongfully convictedFeb 16 11:06
schestowitzand the goal is not justiceFeb 16 11:06
schestowitzbut putting a finger and blame on someoneFeb 16 11:06
DaemonFCthe state doesn't care who they nab and throw in jailFeb 16 11:06
DaemonFCas long as it looks like they have a high case closure rateFeb 16 11:07
schestowitz"Come on JUDGE, find some evidence already and GET IT F** over with!"Feb 16 11:07
schestowitzDaemonFC: yes, perceptionFeb 16 11:07
schestowitzdoesn't matter satisfsaction ratesFeb 16 11:07
schestowitzas long as you make the salesFeb 16 11:07
DaemonFCRichard Stallman made an analogy of what Capitalism usually ends up leading toFeb 16 11:08
DaemonFCcompetitors who don't care what they have to do to get a rewardFeb 16 11:08
DaemonFC(he used the runners in a fist fight example)Feb 16 11:08
DaemonFCthe same argument applies with the police and prosecutorsFeb 16 11:08
DaemonFCif you don't care about doing an honest job, and nobody is going to call you out on how you got to the finish line, you'll find "shortcuts"Feb 16 11:10
DaemonFCschestowitz: http://img577.imageshack.us/img577/7655/snapshot9r.pngFeb 16 11:11
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DaemonFCI noticed that Kubuntu has a plasmoid for the global menu system that Unity usesFeb 16 11:11
DaemonFCthe whole menu over dbus thingFeb 16 11:11
schestowitzI haven't tried it yetFeb 16 11:12
DaemonFCit actually works a lot better than the Unity counterpart (though Kubuntu doesn't enable it by default)Feb 16 11:12
schestowitzI recently browsed through and downloaded many plasmoids thoughFeb 16 11:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Ubuntu 11.10 Review: Benchmarked Against #Vista7 http://goo.gl/lfJBE #gnu #linuxFeb 16 11:12
DaemonFCit doesn't hide the menu when you move the cursor awayFeb 16 11:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] As #Ubuntu is the de facto GNU/Linux desktop, the free/libre desktop as a whole is increasingly being judged by Unity. Good or bad?Feb 16 11:12
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ubuntu 11.10 Review: Benchmarked Against Windows 7 : Ubuntu 11.10 'Oneiric Ocelot', Reviewed .::. Size~: 132.96 KBFeb 16 11:12
schestowitzthere's some for link shortening and embedded terminalsFeb 16 11:12
schestowitzminirok doesn't work with the controllers, but anyway, I can use global acceleratorsFeb 16 11:13
schestowitzDaemonFC: I like your plasma themeFeb 16 11:14
schestowitzI also installed the one you told me about on both boxesFeb 16 11:15
schestowitzthe iconset can be changed to the one Mint usesFeb 16 11:15
DaemonFCthere's one called "Naked" that is the one in that shotFeb 16 11:15
DaemonFChttp://img546.imageshack.us/img546/9267/snapshot10e.pngFeb 16 11:15
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DaemonFCwith YakuakeFeb 16 11:16
DaemonFCI switched over to kwin-gles some time agoFeb 16 11:17
DaemonFCit performs a lot better than the OpenGL versionFeb 16 11:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Innenministerin stoppt umstrittene Web-Zensur - http://bit.ly/zOfVGD austrian minister against #ACTA (v @jerezim) #atFeb 16 11:17
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DaemonFCthere's no way to get out of using OpenGL over GLX with proprietary video driversFeb 16 11:18
DaemonFCbooFeb 16 11:18
DaemonFCOpenGL is rather bloated an inefficient, and GLX just plain sucksFeb 16 11:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] This One for +Fabian Scherschel :-) http://ur1.ca/87aosFeb 16 11:19
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schestowitzi use the one you told me aboutFeb 16 11:19
schestowitzi can't remember what it's called Feb 16 11:19
schestowitz"lucid" or some word to that effectFeb 16 11:19
DaemonFCI switched to OpenGL ES with EGL and the kwin framerate is a solid 60 fps Feb 16 11:19
schestowitzglassFeb 16 11:19
DaemonFCit fluctuates a lot with OpenGL over GLXFeb 16 11:19
schestowitzfor icons I use KFaenzaFeb 16 11:20
schestowitzbetter than oxygen IMHOFeb 16 11:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Dropbox: Get Read / Write EncFS Support On Android Using Cryptonite http://identi.ca/url/66682228Feb 16 11:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #SOCA's Frightening New Approach to Music Piracy - http://bit.ly/yzuJQw why it's dangerous, why it must stop #copyrightFeb 16 11:20
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schestowitzis the glass effect in panel translucency a new kwin/kde feature?Feb 16 11:21
DaemonFCno, translucency has been supported for agesFeb 16 11:22
DaemonFCthe effect just got a LOT less expensive in 4.8Feb 16 11:22
DaemonFCin 4.7 or older, that effect is a performance killerFeb 16 11:22
DaemonFCthere's a huge amount of talk about replacing X, for good reasonFeb 16 11:23
DaemonFCwith a modern desktop environment and window manager, with good OpenGL/ ES driver, you're using about 5% of what X can doFeb 16 11:24
DaemonFCthe only thing it's really even there for anymore is for window positioning updatesFeb 16 11:24
DaemonFCunless you're not using OpenGL / ES-based compositingFeb 16 11:25
DaemonFCewwwFeb 16 11:25
DaemonFCthen it's responsible for actually drawing everythingFeb 16 11:25
DaemonFCand it does a poor job of itFeb 16 11:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Canonical’s Ubuntu challenges Red Hat in the business desktop market http://goo.gl/BQMy2 that's a valid angleFeb 16 11:25
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DaemonFCone of the biggest problems the user sees when X is doing the drawing is tearingFeb 16 11:26
DaemonFCI think the way they're running Unity is pure sleaze Feb 16 11:26
DaemonFC:)Feb 16 11:26
DaemonFCI tried it out the other day on a daily CD and it has become more stable and more usableFeb 16 11:27
DaemonFCbut I don't agree with the way it's being developedFeb 16 11:27
DaemonFCand it's still largely using featureless GNOME applicationsFeb 16 11:27
DaemonFCthat they got it to stop crashing constantly is a huge step forward for them thoughFeb 16 11:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Music Industry Mulls Suing Google Over “Pirate” Search Results - http://bit.ly/yGjT9c this is inevitableFeb 16 11:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Debian & #Ubuntu patching up rocky romance http://ur1.ca/85u0f #linuxFeb 16 11:29
schestowitzwhat about that glassy effect?Feb 16 11:29
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DaemonFCwhat glassy effect?Feb 16 11:29
schestowitzNot a wallpaper featureFeb 16 11:29
schestowitzDaemonFC: where the panel obscures the wallpaperFeb 16 11:29
schestowitzliek Aero GlassFeb 16 11:29
schestowitzin KDE 3.6 they added this effect to full windowsFeb 16 11:30
schestowitzexperimentallyFeb 16 11:30
schestowitz*4.6Feb 16 11:30
schestowitzOMGUbuntu wrote about it at the timeFeb 16 11:30
DaemonFCohFeb 16 11:30
DaemonFCoxygen transparent?Feb 16 11:30
DaemonFCI have thatFeb 16 11:30
DaemonFCit doesn't work on GTK apps thoughFeb 16 11:30
DaemonFConly for QtFeb 16 11:30
DaemonFCso I went back to OxygenFeb 16 11:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] In ~2007 Mark Shuttleworth said he had almost chosen KDE for Ubuntu. Later he spoke about possibly moving to Qt. Now kills Kubuntu.Feb 16 11:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] KDE4 rocks on Debian Squeeze, but #Debian sometimes insists on admin and updates via the GNOME side, which sucks. #kdeFeb 16 11:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Canonical made Unity default, then introduced Ubuntu Business Desktop Remix. Like mixing clutch with a 747. Unity is cumbersome.Feb 16 11:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Ubuntu 11.10 beats out #Vista7 in benchmark grudge match http://goo.gl/EvmTa #microsoft #gnu #linux #ubuntuFeb 16 11:39
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DaemonFCschestowitz: http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/7472/snapshot11px.pngFeb 16 11:39
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DaemonFCsomething like this?Feb 16 11:39
schestowitzyeahFeb 16 11:40
schestowitzbuilt in functionality now?Feb 16 11:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Canonical takes the Ubuntu Server pulse http://ur1.ca/87b4t #ubuntuFeb 16 11:40
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DaemonFCnoFeb 16 11:41
schestowitzdentedFeb 16 11:41
DaemonFCit's in the kde-goodies ppaFeb 16 11:41
schestowitzI see..Feb 16 11:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #KDE UI features are far more advanced. http://ur1.ca/87b6x #qt #oxygenFeb 16 11:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !Google reportedly to release !Android 5.0 ‘Jelly Bean’ by June 2012 http://ping.fm/mb6q7Feb 16 11:42
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DaemonFCschestowitz: On KDE 4.8, the oxygen transparency theme has a negligible performance hitFeb 16 11:43
DaemonFCit was a lot worse under 4.7Feb 16 11:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Unanimous pressure in EP forces Commission to accept binding Treaty of #Blind Persons - http://bit.ly/wIDHYu really big #euFeb 16 11:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Ubuntu and #Slackware Named Top Desktop Linux Distros http://goo.gl/vr1qM #gnu #linuxFeb 16 11:44
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1303756 "thats why it cannot exist. the absence of power relations i.e. ppl having more influence than others is utopian"Feb 16 11:44
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1303756 "define judged? Do you mean the criticism against it?"Feb 16 11:44
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schestowitz"I like Unity on my old laptop (Hp 5700), works fine. On the other computer: "Intel Core Quad Q9400 2,66Hz, XFX GeForce 9600GT, Crucial DDR2 PC 6400 4096MB, WD Caviar GP 500GB SATA 2, Antec Nine Hundred" I use KDE."Feb 16 11:45
schestowitz"The judgement of Unity is largely irrelevant. KDE, Gnome-Shell, and a plethora of other desktop environments and toolkits can be installed on it, and still make use of the Ubuntu ecosystem and packages. Honestly, I actually like Unity, anyway."Feb 16 11:45
schestowitzI tried Unity, but an old version of it.Feb 16 11:45
DaemonFCit doesn't crash as muchFeb 16 11:45
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1303595 "all hail slackware :)"Feb 16 11:45
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DaemonFCthey've caved in on some of the obnoxious things it was doingFeb 16 11:45
DaemonFCif I had to, I could use it nowFeb 16 11:45
DaemonFCbut it's not my first choiceFeb 16 11:46
DaemonFCyou can turn off "apps available for download now", that was one of my gripesFeb 16 11:46
DaemonFCyou have this "lens area" that you can't resizeFeb 16 11:46
DaemonFCand they were using half of it to display things you "could" installFeb 16 11:46
DaemonFCnow you can disable that section of the lens easilyFeb 16 11:47
DaemonFCand use the full area for applications you actually haveFeb 16 11:47
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/petrock/status/170110101494054912?iid=am-71153098513293923835062741&nid=4+status_timestamp&uid=26603208Feb 16 11:48
TechrightsBot-tr@petrock: @schestowitz Maybe it won't matter if it's made easier to choose from a variety of desktops. Like GNOME2 forks, GNOME3, KDE, etc. ?Feb 16 11:48
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/90671623Feb 16 11:49
TechrightsBot-tr@Billy (m4nima1)'s status on Thursday, 16-Feb-12 11:07:08 UTC - Identi.ca: awesomeFeb 16 11:49
DaemonFChmmm, wonton soup looks a little betterFeb 16 11:49
schestowitzDaemonFC: "That desktop theme is that? "https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1303997Feb 16 11:49
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schestowitzThey ask youi...Feb 16 11:49
DaemonFCthe plasma theme is called "naked"Feb 16 11:50
DaemonFCthe widget style and window decorator style is oxygen-transparent Feb 16 11:51
DaemonFChttp://img641.imageshack.us/img641/2979/snapshot12j.pngFeb 16 11:52
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DaemonFCthere it is with the Wonton Soup color schemeFeb 16 11:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] A First Look At The #Ubuntu 12.04 Performance http://ur1.ca/87bdp #linuxFeb 16 11:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Scary stuff IMHO. Via +Kristian Köhntopp http://ur1.ca/87bdwFeb 16 11:54
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schestowitzDaemonFC: "I mean Glassified, Air, ... " https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1303997Feb 16 11:55
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schestowitzI'll tell him. "It's called "naked"; the widget style and window decorator style is oxygen-transparent  http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/2979/snapshot12j.png "Feb 16 11:57
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schestowitzLOL https://daemonfc.wordpress.com/2012/02/13/dear-mozilla-please-cut-the-crap-and-be-awesome-again-kthx/Feb 16 12:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] So far UNESCO's US stacked @Wikileaks' conference has done nothing but centralize & homogenize U.S. gvt/MSM narratives. #OccupyUNESCOFeb 16 12:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Fedora 17 Alpha RC May Come Ahead Of Schedule http://ur1.ca/87blqFeb 16 12:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Oopsie. http://ur1.ca/87bm4Feb 16 12:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Linux Professionals In High Demand: Report http://ur1.ca/87bnc #gnu #serverFeb 16 12:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #ChakraLinux Review http://ur1.ca/87bqe #gnu #linuxFeb 16 12:09
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schestowitz"What admin tasks would that be?" https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1303971Feb 16 12:10
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schestowitz"Ironically, the panels layout seem to be set up to mimic Gnome2... #justsayin " https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1303997Feb 16 12:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Das ist wirklich spannend. 3 Minuten und man ahnt was da gerade passiert, wie das Internet und seine Dezentralität di... http://b1t.it/aQAAFeb 16 12:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @onetruecathal: I'm following a #UNESCO meeting where they all chat about how they benefitted from @wikileaks, while bashing @wikileaksFeb 16 12:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] A Freelance Writer's Timesheet http://ur1.ca/87bsdFeb 16 12:12
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DaemonFChttps://www.facebook.com/events/173754896067237/Feb 16 12:15
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DaemonFCpreparing my army for an attack against the "Sickle Syndicate"Feb 16 12:15
DaemonFCwonder who that could be... ;)Feb 16 12:15
DaemonFCI have some F-22s, some A-10s, some Apache attack helicoptersFeb 16 12:17
DaemonFClots of tanksFeb 16 12:17
DaemonFCand some missile launchersFeb 16 12:18
DaemonFCsome riflemen to use as mortar baitFeb 16 12:18
DaemonFCand some suicide bombersFeb 16 12:18
amarsh04back in a few, new kernel, updated lots of stuffFeb 16 12:20
DaemonFCif you defeat the "Sickle Syndicate" you get a laser tankFeb 16 12:20
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schestowitzOxford Uni. will make a decision in March as it turns out. Maybe I can work in the existing department at the same time. Also, I just got good news from my employer down in London, our biggest client is extending the contract, which gives excellent work security there (and easy hours, high pay).Feb 16 12:20
schestowitzDaemonFC: you got some replies Feb 16 12:20
schestowitzin diasporaFeb 16 12:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Oh heiliger Markt! Du wirst alles regeln! Mit unsichtbarer Hand! Was kann da schon schiefgehen! http://www.spiegel.de/... http://b1t.it/aQA7Feb 16 12:29
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DaemonFCI think it's likely that Fedora 17 will keep using Ext4Feb 16 12:30
DaemonFCbtrfs fsck has been "any day now" for several monthsFeb 16 12:32
DaemonFCunless it gets landed in Fedora 17 by the time it's alpha, the btrfs feature will get pushed back to Fedora 18Feb 16 12:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] UNESCO admits false representation. Thanks. https://t.co/gYAJSklBFeb 16 12:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #ScientificLinux 5.7 http://ur1.ca/87c7u #redhatFeb 16 12:37
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oiaohmDaemonFC: The btrfs fsck does exist as a alpha.Feb 16 12:38
oiaohmDaemonFC: so its more a question of progress.Feb 16 12:38
oiaohmDaemonFC: if you watch the lca2012 video by the xfs developer he show far worse issues in btrfs than not being able to fsck it.Feb 16 12:39
schestowitzDaemonFC: https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1303979Feb 16 12:39
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schestowitzIt really is. I don't know what they were thinking with the "You can't see the menu until you go and move the mouse over where it is (but wasn't visible) 'feature'". And as for the day-glo boxes behind all of the launcher icons.... yuch.Feb 16 12:39
schestowitzFor a much better implementation of basically the same thing, see the "Icon only task launcher" that's default in #KDE on #Chakra (may be elsewhere, I don't know). Prettier. Slicker. More useful.Feb 16 12:39
schestowitz"Feb 16 12:39
schestowitzttried chakra yet?Feb 16 12:39
schestowitz"Lovin' it! Especially the new theme, the icon only launcher and the speed. Sweet! " https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1303763Feb 16 12:40
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schestowitz"Missing BURG through since they switched to ugly, er I mean Grub2 "Feb 16 12:40
schestowitzOh, it's you thee https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1303997 "I used to use GNOME 2. You can set up the panels in KDE to do pretty much anything though."Feb 16 12:41
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schestowitz*thereFeb 16 12:41
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oiaohmReally the dragon in the room is wayland.Feb 16 12:41
schestowitz"there's nothing wrong with gnome panels, I use something similar, but only one panel"Feb 16 12:41
oiaohmWayland upsets the complete X11 windows manager idea.Feb 16 12:41
schestowitzoiaohm: for devices it'll be goodFeb 16 12:41
schestowitzlike kde tabletsFeb 16 12:41
schestowitznext ubuntu: "I'm looking forward to test it. :) " https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1304029Feb 16 12:42
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oiaohmReally for desktop wayland will be good in a lot of ways.Feb 16 12:42
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oiaohmless central crash points.Feb 16 12:42
DaemonFChttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOYo9Yz-haE&feature=relatedFeb 16 12:42
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schestowitzHeh. With the new contract we got, I can still move anywhere I want in the UK and still do all my jobs from home. Couldn't be any better!Feb 16 12:43
schestowitzand still find lots of time to tweet, blog, and sit on IRC with 2 computers persistently on it displayedFeb 16 12:43
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1303906Feb 16 12:44
schestowitz"Feb 16 12:44
schestowitzI would say it is a good thing since I trust Unity to shape up into a very polished newbie-friendly desktop although it had a rocky start. I like Unity and I like Gnome Shell and KDE too and hope they all will remain relevant and healthy alternatives.Feb 16 12:44
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schestowitzI hope they can remain as compatible as possible from an application API perspective so they all can use the same applications seamlessly with the appmenu being global in Unity while local to the window in Gnome and so on.Feb 16 12:44
schestowitzIt's great if we can provide different user experiences without fragmenting the application developers. into different camps.Feb 16 12:44
schestowitz"Feb 16 12:44
DaemonFChttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mkw67GHlGgY&feature=relatedFeb 16 12:49
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DaemonFChttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rJp-xasT94&feature=relatedFeb 16 12:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] UNSCOW have now deleted their tweet apologising for false representation of Geoffery Robinson QC https://t.co/gYAJSklBFeb 16 12:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] correction UNSCOW=UNESCOFeb 16 12:50
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DaemonFChttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrNEsA5f8no&feature=relatedFeb 16 12:51
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DaemonFCDon't worry she was immediately rushed to the kitchenFeb 16 12:51
DaemonFCMobFrenziedHomicide 2 weeks ago 18  Feb 16 12:51
DaemonFChttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-7y31MSQH0&feature=relmfuFeb 16 12:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #CrunchBang 10 update split into two editions http://goo.gl/GDs0M #gnu #linuxFeb 16 13:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle: CrunchBang 10 update split into two editions - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 42.02 KBFeb 16 13:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @gsuberland UNESCO You should listen to public opinion on this one, it's a PR battle you can't win. Let WL formally speak from a panel.Feb 16 13:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Oopsie for the "IP"-maximalists. European Court decides that Hosting provides can NOT be forced to install filter syst... http://b1t.it/aQB5Feb 16 13:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Jan Wildeboer - Google+ - Oopsie for the "IP"-maximalists. European Court decides… .::. Size~: 50.88 KBFeb 16 13:04
DaemonFChttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iypBTQYnJi4Feb 16 13:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Linus Likes #Linux License http://ur1.ca/87cte #torvaldsFeb 16 13:05
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linus Likes Linux License - Forbes .::. Size~: 89.91 KBFeb 16 13:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The Torch is Passed: Talking with New Fedora Project Leader Robyn Bergeron http://goo.gl/qB9YN #fedora #gnu #linuxFeb 16 13:07
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DaemonFChttp://torvalds-family.blogspot.com/2008/11/black-and-white.htmlFeb 16 13:10
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schestowitzmehFeb 16 13:10
schestowitzno matter if you're...Feb 16 13:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] UK Government starts new Open Standards Consultation http://goo.gl/EBYcK #standard #egovFeb 16 13:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] UNESCO's apology is back https://t.co/08YesQyIFeb 16 13:10
TechrightsBot-trTitle: UK Government starts new Open Standards Consultation - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 40.83 KBFeb 16 13:10
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1303906 "When #unity first came out, I wasn't sure I'd like it. But I think every new improvement is making it better, and I like to use it now."Feb 16 13:12
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1304233 "lol, that image"Feb 16 13:14
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MinceRso, Linus is misinformed about obamaFeb 16 13:14
XFaCEMinceR: which link?Feb 16 13:16
MinceR140952 < DaemonFC> http://torvalds-family.blogspot.com/2008/11/black-and-white.htmlFeb 16 13:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linus' blog: Black and white .::. Size~: 849 KBFeb 16 13:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Special Q&A with Monty Widenius http://ur1.ca/87d31 #dbFeb 16 13:17
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DaemonFCOne of the common claims of the religious right is that television (and now the internet) is bad because you might be exposed to opinions that are not theirsFeb 16 13:18
DaemonFCif their cause were really just and the merits obvious, then they wouldn't have to worry about competing ideas because theirs would stand out as obviously correct, even amid disagreementFeb 16 13:19
DaemonFCwhen one group of people try to silence another group of people, it's usually because they know they're not clearly in the right on those issues and that exposing the listener to alternatives introduces a good chance that they will change their thinkingFeb 16 13:20
DaemonFCthat's why these groups target childrenFeb 16 13:21
DaemonFCthrough the child's parentsFeb 16 13:21
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DaemonFCif they can get the parent to filter everything the kids get to see or hear for the first 18 years of their lives, they will have already surrendered their ability for critical thinking, following crazy superstitious beliefs will be second natureFeb 16 13:22
schestowitzwb, abushcrafterforgFeb 16 13:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] There are no representatives of WikiLeaks at today's UNESCO WikiLeaks conference.Feb 16 13:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #SOCA: Police can monitor file download histories - http://bit.ly/ybA6SD as I guessed; question is: how? #surveillanceFeb 16 13:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #HP shares database smarts with #EnterpriseDB http://goo.gl/yJdJa #postgresFeb 16 13:22
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abushcrafterforgwb?Feb 16 13:22
DaemonFCevery cult makes a double down effort to control the childrenFeb 16 13:23
abushcrafterforgwhat the subject?Feb 16 13:23
DaemonFCthe chances for them to get someone that isn't used to thinking like them to convert "short of the threat of physical violence" is slimFeb 16 13:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Cisco to challenge #Microsoft Skype deal at EU court - http://bbc.in/zB5Jo8 interesting how everyone suddenly wants #openstandards...Feb 16 13:24
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abushcrafterforgback in a momentFeb 16 13:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] O caso C360/10 do Tribunal Europeu de Justiça determina que filtragem activa vai para além dos limites do razoável na protecção de © útil!Feb 16 13:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Brian Stevens on Red Hat's Involvement with #OpenStack http://goo.gl/I1aKv #redhatFeb 16 13:27
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DaemonFCRMS links to a lot of petitions that end up signing you up for spamFeb 16 13:28
DaemonFCCREDO is one of themFeb 16 13:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @jwildeboer Oopsie for the "IP"-maximalists. European Court decides that Hosting provides can NOT be forced to install filter syst... ...Feb 16 13:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] CEJ: Furnizorii de găzduire nu trebuie să impună servicii de filtrare a conținutului protejat de #copyright http://ur1.ca/87d9tFeb 16 13:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Furnizorii de gazduire nu trebuie sa impuna servicii de filtrare a continutului protejat de copyright, decide Curtea Europeana de Justitie .::. Size~: 56.21 KBFeb 16 13:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Movies Are Expensive To Make Because They're So Lucrative - http://slate.me/xVmNMx crucial point (v @normative) #businessmodels #copyrightFeb 16 13:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Only a few days ago, after serious complaints about being excluded, did UNESCO say we could hand out a few flyers.Feb 16 13:30
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Movies are expensive to make because they're so lucrative. .::. Size~: 63.13 KBFeb 16 13:30
schestowitzDaemonFC: examples like these shouldn't have RMS blamedFeb 16 13:31
schestowitzif the petition is started by him, that's another matterFeb 16 13:31
DaemonFCa lot of times I don't sign them because I don't want them sending me 5-6 emails every day with a broken unsubscribe linkFeb 16 13:33
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abushcrafterforgI think i missed a few posts could you repost the last few before i said "back in a moment"Feb 16 13:34
schestowitzSo much activity in diaspora this morning... "Eww.... No thanks. " https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1299541Feb 16 13:35
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schestowitz[13:22] <schestowitz> wb, abushcrafterforgFeb 16 13:35
abushcrafterforgThere not showing up in pidgin...Feb 16 13:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Une plainte déposée contre X par les deux négociateurs français de l’#ACTA suite à un communiqué d’Act Up-Paris - http://bit.ly/wxcBYG weirdFeb 16 13:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Act Up-Paris | Une plainte déposée contre X par les deux négociateurs français de l’ACTA suite à un communiqué d’Act Up-Paris .::. Size~: 15.47 KBFeb 16 13:35
DaemonFCPidgin is not a great IRC clientFeb 16 13:35
schestowitz[13:28] <DaemonFC> RMS links to a lot of petitions that end up signing you up for spamFeb 16 13:36
schestowitz[13:28] <DaemonFC> CREDO is one of themFeb 16 13:36
DaemonFCit's unusable without the various IRC helper pluginsFeb 16 13:36
schestowitzplus some stuff from the syndicator and techrights botFeb 16 13:36
abushcrafterforgthanksFeb 16 13:37
abushcrafterforgyea pidgin does not like loads of chatrooms openFeb 16 13:37
abushcrafterforgit seamsFeb 16 13:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Keeping #SOPA Measures Out of Trade Agreements #ACTA, #TPP - http://huff.to/z6jzDr "if you're not at the table, you're on the menu" - ha!Feb 16 13:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Edward J. Black: Keeping SOPA Measures Out of Trade Agreements ACTA, TPP .::. Size~: 236.59 KBFeb 16 13:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Or otherwise engage in debate. This is the same right that any audience member has. UNESCO must admit fault and move on.Feb 16 13:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz Brian Stevens on Red Hat's Involvement with #OpenStack http://goo.gl/I1aKv #redhatFeb 16 13:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz #HP shares database smarts with #EnterpriseDB http://goo.gl/yJdJa #postgresFeb 16 13:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz Special Q&A with Monty Widenius http://ur1.ca/87d31 #dbFeb 16 13:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz UK Government starts new Open Standards Consultation http://goo.gl/EBYcK #standard #egovFeb 16 13:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz #ScientificLinux 5.7 http://ur1.ca/87c7u #redhatFeb 16 13:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz #Linux Professionals In High Demand: Report http://ur1.ca/87bnc #gnu #serverFeb 16 13:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz Ubuntu 11.10 beats out #Vista7 in benchmark grudge match http://goo.gl/EvmTa #microsoft #gnu #linux #ubuntuFeb 16 13:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz Canonical’s Ubuntu challenges Red Hat in the business desktop market http://goo.gl/BQMy2 that's a valid angleFeb 16 13:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz #Ubuntu & #Debian top community poll http://ur1.ca/87aec #linuxFeb 16 13:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz Trimble Yuma military-grade Rugged tablets runs on Ubuntu http://goo.gl/M7NxE #gnu #linuxFeb 16 13:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz Ubuntu vs. Windows 7 on the business desktop http://ur1.ca/879zc #linuxFeb 16 13:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz Freedom Doesn't Have Any Lobbyists http://ur1.ca/879kj #freedomFeb 16 13:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz Red Hat scoffs at VMware's open cloud claims http://goo.gl/gZmKA #redhat #gnu #linuxFeb 16 13:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Geoffery Robertson QC told UNESCO that excluding WL from a WL conference was conducting "Hamlet without the prince".Feb 16 13:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @glynmoody Keeping #SOPA Measures Out of Trade Agreements #ACTA, #TPP - http://huff.to/z6jzDr "if you're not at the table, you're on ...Feb 16 13:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #LibreOffice 3.5 sharpens its grammar checking http://goo.gl/MqByf http://goo.gl/5I5xe #odfFeb 16 13:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @glynmoody #Cisco to challenge #Microsoft Skype deal at EU court - http://bbc.in/zB5Jo8 interesting how everyone suddenly wants #open ...Feb 16 13:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Java-alternative #Kotlin now available as open source http://goo.gl/gpmQO #javaFeb 16 13:54
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DaemonFChttp://listserv.fnal.gov/scripts/wa.exe?A2=ind1202&L=scientific-linux-announce&T=0&P=222Feb 16 13:55
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DaemonFCScientific Linux 6.2 is outFeb 16 13:55
schestowitzBig ouch http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Horde-Groupware-contains-backdoor-1433972.htmlFeb 16 13:55
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schestowitzDaemonFC: yes, I dented that earlierFeb 16 13:56
schestowitz[13:47] [Notice] -TRIdentica to #techrights- [rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz #ScientificLinux 5.7 http://ur1.ca/87c7u  #redhatFeb 16 13:56
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schestowitzohFeb 16 13:56
schestowitzwrong version thereFeb 16 13:56
schestowitzgot url?Feb 16 13:56
DaemonFChttp://www.scientificlinux.org/distributions/6x/62/Feb 16 13:56
DaemonFChttp://www.scientificlinux.org/distributions/6x/rnotes/sl-release-notes-6.2.htmlFeb 16 13:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Setting up a Linux server on a Windows network http://ur1.ca/87dsn #windows #microsoft #gnu #linux #serverFeb 16 13:57
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DaemonFCRed Hat hired their former project leaderFeb 16 13:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Scientific Linux 6.2 is out http://ur1.ca/87du8 #redhatFeb 16 13:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] The primary source email trail, with context, is available here, towards the end: http://t.co/6a03tVL3Feb 16 14:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] .@OpenForumEurope finds trademark references in IT procurements widespread, break rules by @sjig | http://red.ht/wFvF53 #OFEFeb 16 14:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz Scientific Linux 6.2 is out http://ur1.ca/87du8 #redhatFeb 16 14:04
schestowitz"Niiiicee!!! " https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1304233Feb 16 14:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz Java-alternative #Kotlin now available as open source http://goo.gl/gpmQO #javaFeb 16 14:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @glynmoody #Cisco to challenge #Microsoft Skype deal at EU court - http://bbc.in/zB5Jo8 interesting how everyone suddenly wants #open ...Feb 16 14:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Exposing corruption is priceless. It is also very expensive. Support #WikiLeaks. Please Donate http://t.co/p9sRRwCEFeb 16 14:10
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DaemonFChttp://arstechnica.com/apple/reviews/2012/01/is-lion-server-suitable-for-home-use-ars-investigates.arsFeb 16 14:14
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DaemonFCI've dealt with OS X several times, I was less than amused on each occasion Feb 16 14:14
DaemonFCtheir GUI is actually worse than OS 9's wasFeb 16 14:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] blender + krita on the mango open movie project. wow! http://ur1.ca/87e5zFeb 16 14:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] About #Patents. Again - http://bit.ly/zxyxc7 great post; key point is we live in age of inventive abundance - patents designed for scarcityFeb 16 14:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Open webOS governance model described http://ur1.ca/87e6hFeb 16 14:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Welcome to FoWL : Friends of #WikiLeaks https://t.co/xWcS5ckQ - join nowFeb 16 14:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] European Commission discusses tactical, partial retreat on #ACTA - http://bit.ly/yRKEIN important insights into EC thinking: pl. readFeb 16 14:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] we're using Mer + Plasma Active. nothing particularly hidden there .. and yes, kde games are there :)Feb 16 14:25
schestowitzDaemonFC: isn't the whole line of mac servers kaput?Feb 16 14:25
DaemonFCnoFeb 16 14:27
DaemonFCthey still have XServe and Mac Pros afaikFeb 16 14:27
DaemonFCthe hardware isn't badFeb 16 14:27
DaemonFCexpensiveFeb 16 14:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RIP #Compiz http://ur1.ca/87ecr #linuxFeb 16 14:27
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DaemonFCthere seems to be almost no end to what you can pay for oneFeb 16 14:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Welcome to FoWL : Friends of #WikiLeaks https://t.co/xWcS5ckQFeb 16 14:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] SPÖ-Mandatare fordern #ACTA-Stopp - http://bit.ly/zCP1R0 good stuff happening in #austria (v @lexelas @bendrath)Feb 16 14:34
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schestowitz"Lots of 'lliteration. ;-) " https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1304233Feb 16 14:36
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schestowitz"I have to give this distro a try at some point. I installed CentOS in VBox and getting familiar with that, but SL seems to be grabbing my attention each time I hear about it. :-) " https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1304132Feb 16 14:36
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schestowitzDaemonFC: just got 5 messages from Canonical staffFeb 16 14:36
schestowitzwherever Ubuntu is not praisedFeb 16 14:36
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1303906Feb 16 14:37
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schestowitz"We (people who already use free software) all understand and recognize# Ubuntu by its official name: *Ubuntu*. The (99% of the) world *not* using #Ubuntu has no interest whatsoever in which kernel, colonel, or yak-like creature is inside. For all they care it can be powered by pizza. They don't even care what the desktop is called. Ask them. "Feb 16 14:37
MinceRlolFeb 16 14:37
schestowitz"We (people who already use free software) all understand and recognize #Ubuntu by its official name: Ubuntu. The (99% of the) world not using #Ubuntu has no interest whatsoever in which kernel, colonel, or yak-like creature is inside. For all they care it can be powered by pizza. They don't even care what the desktop is called. Ask them. "Feb 16 14:37
schestowitz"#Ubuntu has five "P's". Philosophy is one of them. " https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1303801Feb 16 14:38
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MinceRi wonder what "philosophy" that isFeb 16 14:38
schestowitz"Misses the mark. No mention of predatory business model or non-existent community. Features come and go. " https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1303985Feb 16 14:38
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schestowitzthis one I agree with him onFeb 16 14:38
schestowitzubuntu devs speaking about market distrotionFeb 16 14:38
schestowitzWHOA "Katherine Noyse http://www.pcworld.com/author/Katherine-Noyes really needs to drop the "L" word. I wonder if her editors will let her ;) Any guesses? "Feb 16 14:39
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1304003Feb 16 14:39
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schestowitzFirst of all, it's NoyesFeb 16 14:39
schestowitzNot NoyseFeb 16 14:39
schestowitzMaybe he implies "noise"Feb 16 14:39
schestowitzAnd she's strognly pro-LinuixFeb 16 14:39
schestowitzSoiunds like he tries to push her to stop saying LinuxFeb 16 14:39
schestowitzand say "ubuntu" insteadFeb 16 14:40
schestowitz:)))))  https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1304507Feb 16 14:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @suigenerisjen: Rather ironic that @UNESCOnow Wikileaks conf on #mediafuture now associated with censorship, manipulation & obfuscationFeb 16 14:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] URGENT: US Citizens PLEASE Sign Anti-RWA petition - http://bit.ly/yb4IvJ more signatures needed... #openaccessFeb 16 14:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @glynmoody URGENT: US Citizens PLEASE Sign Anti-RWA petition - http://bit.ly/yb4IvJ more signatures needed... #openaccessFeb 16 14:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] UK Publishers Pretend To Embrace #Copyright Reform... In Order To Kill Copyright Reform - http://bit.ly/x4bon1 cunning #hargreaves #dceFeb 16 14:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] UNESCO live stream audio stopped as Geoffery Robertson QC is about to speak. http://alturl.com/sxwpp #OccupyUNESCOFeb 16 14:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Twitter seems to have a problem with stream urls. Here, in quotes: "mms://stream.unesco.org/live/room_4_en.wmv"Feb 16 15:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Linux skills in demand, wages up (Computerworld): http://bit.ly/xIQhP7Feb 16 15:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Does open design hardware have a place in manufacturing? asks @arenasolutions | http://red.ht/ApWVQLFeb 16 15:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Oracle preps MySQL Cluster for Web use (Computerworld): http://bit.ly/ySOmgtFeb 16 15:04
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schestowitz"no one killed kubuntu. There is no professional support anymore. Riddell cannot work on Kubuntu, that indeed is sad. But that's all. Qt plays an important role in Unity 2D, afaik. " https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1303963Feb 16 15:05
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DaemonFCschestowitz: http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/6154/snapshot14n.pngFeb 16 15:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Google: Web apps aren't Web sites (InfoWorld): http://bit.ly/wWby3bFeb 16 15:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Google's Field Guide to Web Apps: http://ur1.ca/87e6oFeb 16 15:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] HP gives Vertica a fresh face (InfoWorld): http://bit.ly/wrGmM5Feb 16 15:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Geoffrey Robertson at UNESCO "Rupert Murdoch is a great Australian in the sense that Atilla is a great Hun." #OccupyUNESCOFeb 16 15:12
DaemonFCsometimes hell comes to youFeb 16 15:13
schestowitzhell yeahFeb 16 15:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Scientific Linux 5.7 and 6.2, Mozilla Firefox 10.0.1 http://ur1.ca/87f97 #techrightsFeb 16 15:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Unity esque #kde http://ur1.ca/87fa8 #gnu #linuxFeb 16 15:14
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DaemonFCthey ported all their unity stuff to Kubuntu anywayFeb 16 15:14
schestowitzhuh? 2d?Feb 16 15:15
DaemonFCnopeFeb 16 15:15
DaemonFCthis is plasma desktopFeb 16 15:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Scientific Linux 6.2 released (H): http://bit.ly/zOGOkiFeb 16 15:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Scientific Linux 6.2 released - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 39.34 KBFeb 16 15:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Ding! Round 2! Where's the popcorn? http://ur1.ca/87ffxFeb 16 15:24
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DaemonFChttp://www.indianapreppersnetwork.com/2010/12/obscene-threatening-comments-posted-at.htmlFeb 16 15:26
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DaemonFClolFeb 16 15:27
schestowitzheheFeb 16 15:27
schestowitzzombies?Feb 16 15:27
schestowitzthey can also just blame"Windows"Feb 16 15:27
DaemonFChttp://dangerousintersection.org/2010/12/30/in-indiana-its-illegal-to-build-snow-sculpture-of-a-penis/Feb 16 15:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Indiana crackdown on snow sculptures of penises  : Dangerous Intersection .::. Size~: 101.52 KBFeb 16 15:28
DaemonFCPENIS PENIS PENIS!!Feb 16 15:28
schestowitzhttp://jonathanischwartz.wordpress.com/2012/02/15/the-thinking-behind-carezone/Feb 16 15:29
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DaemonFCmaking a sculpture of a penis can get you arrestedFeb 16 15:29
DaemonFCthese police officers have too much free timeFeb 16 15:29
DaemonFCsometimes I search through those Christian forums for people who listed their email address and sign them up for pornographic spamFeb 16 15:32
DaemonFCbut I'm evilFeb 16 15:33
DaemonFChttp://www.splc.org/news/newsflash.asp?id=1501Feb 16 15:33
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schestowitz"New TSA slogan: "Bend over for Freedom!" " https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1298795Feb 16 15:34
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MinceRwhat if a sculpture depicts a larger part (or entirety) of a human body, including a penis?Feb 16 15:34
schestowitzDaemonFC: you *are* evilFeb 16 15:35
schestowitzbend over for Satan nowFeb 16 15:35
MinceR"bend over, Junior"Feb 16 15:35
schestowitzMinceR: then it's "art"Feb 16 15:35
MinceRoh.Feb 16 15:35
schestowitzMinceR: redneck?Feb 16 15:35
DaemonFChttp://www.findadeath.com/forum/showthread.php?30194-Flatulence-is-an-quot-Obscene-Gesture-quot-in-Columbus-OhioFeb 16 15:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Flatulence is an "Obscene Gesture" in Columbus, Ohio .::. Size~: 108.47 KBFeb 16 15:35
MinceRschestowitz: some cartoonFeb 16 15:35
schestowitzohFeb 16 15:36
MinceRwhat if the defendant claims that the plane of the ground represents part of the body the penis is attached to? :>Feb 16 15:36
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/90681813Feb 16 15:37
TechrightsBot-tr@Захария Стургин (redxine)'s status on Thursday, 16-Feb-12 15:30:07 UTC - Identi.ca: Noooo!!!! :(  new compositors better have an easy screenshot function >: (  besides [standard] Unity 3D is built with compiz...Feb 16 15:37
schestowitzMinceR: then it's artFeb 16 15:37
DaemonFCMinceR: I have seen snowmen before with various items for eyes and a nose that I moved down and rearrangedFeb 16 15:37
MinceR:DFeb 16 15:37
schestowitzlolFeb 16 15:38
schestowitzdid the snowman have a big package?Feb 16 15:38
DaemonFCyeah, but they're not supposed to be orange (carrot)Feb 16 15:39
DaemonFCI'd see a doctor about thatFeb 16 15:39
schestowitzyou could mely the snowmanFeb 16 15:39
schestowitzonly one part staysFeb 16 15:39
schestowitzthe noseFeb 16 15:40
DaemonFCbbiabFeb 16 15:40
schestowitznozzleFeb 16 15:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] New Linux kernel fixes power-saving issues http://goo.gl/S7IXN #linuxFeb 16 15:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Red Hat Brings Gluster to Amazon Cloud http://goo.gl/QwRkj #redhatFeb 16 15:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Assange protests UNESCO conference 'ban' | Hindu http://t.co/lQHxRStT #OccupyUNESCOFeb 16 15:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Yeah, it's a problem with static files. Should be fixed now, although notices received during that period will fail.Feb 16 15:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] ...and that looks about right.Feb 16 15:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Rant - Ur doin' it right..... http://ur1.ca/87g0g #gnome #rantFeb 16 15:57
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schestowitz"I run SL 6 on my work desktop, & it's a delight to use. Also installed it on my laptop for a few months, but encountered too many problems keeping the wifi going. " https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1304132Feb 16 15:58
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schestowitzRed HatFeb 16 15:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Why didn't I find this one when I needed it a few weeks ago? http://ur1.ca/4vze0Feb 16 15:59
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schestowitz"I have to give this distro a try at some point. I installed CentOS in VBox and getting familiar with that, but SL seems to be grabbing my attention each time I hear about it. :"Feb 16 16:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Online Copyright: EU Court of Justice Rules Out Private and Automatic #Censorship http://goo.gl/L6ttF #copyrightFeb 16 16:00
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/90682944Feb 16 16:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #fedora 17-Alpha.RC2 is out http://ur1.ca/87g5d #redhatFeb 16 16:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] What To Expect In Kubuntu 12.04 http://ur1.ca/87g65 #kubuntu #kdeFeb 16 16:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] HP's CEO has just publicly confirmed that Android *is* open. Steve Jobs must be bending in his grave. #android #linuxFeb 16 16:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "This is the last straw - I'm stop reading #wired - they are spreading FUD about the gpl" http://ur1.ca/87g8m Cade to blameFeb 16 16:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] #insightful - cc +Georg Zoche http://ur1.ca/87g95Feb 16 16:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Red Hat, Rackspace Try To Be More Open In The Cloud http://goo.gl/ZMPxJ http://goo.gl/pI4C0 #redhat #fogComputingFeb 16 16:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] `Window Applets`, Finally Available For GNOME 3 (Classic / Fallback) http://identi.ca/url/66693539Feb 16 16:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @wkpl: Pierwszy odcinek podcasta Wolne Granie z muzyką na wolnych licencjach jest w sieci! http://bit.ly/yIfF7S #cc #jamendoFeb 16 16:15
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koolhead17schestowitz http://yro.slashdot.org/story/12/02/16/1411232/indian-government-to-track-locations-of-all-cell-phone-users?utm_source=slashdot&utm_medium=twitterFeb 16 16:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Sabayon Succumbs to Cinnamon's Irresistible Allure http://goo.gl/Yz4sZ #gnu #linux #gnomeFeb 16 16:17
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schestowitzkoolhead17: same in the UKFeb 16 16:18
schestowitzdrop your mobile phoneFeb 16 16:18
schestowitzit's a tracking device which can also make calls and other stuffFeb 16 16:18
koolhead17schestowitz they failed implementing UID in UK :)Feb 16 16:18
schestowitzby tracking I don't mean just location, comms too (they record and retain your personal life)Feb 16 16:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] HP’s CEO Hallucinates http://ur1.ca/87gfv "What kind of an audience would accept this nonsense"Feb 16 16:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Totally. Lovin. THIS. #GeekLove http://ur1.ca/87ggdFeb 16 16:19
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schestowitzkoolhead17: didn't India use some census-like propaganda to phase it in as "necessity"?Feb 16 16:19
schestowitzWe almost had ID cards in the UKFeb 16 16:19
schestowitzIt got scrapped when Labour wentFeb 16 16:19
koolhead17schestowitz i will take some other country citizenship if am forced to take itFeb 16 16:20
koolhead17mobile yes in coming yrs i willFeb 16 16:20
koolhead17:PFeb 16 16:20
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DaemonFChttps://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2012-February/162793.htmlFeb 16 16:26
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DaemonFChehFeb 16 16:26
DaemonFCI'm not even sure most packages in a Linux distribution would build with LLVMFeb 16 16:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] voted for "Sometimes, when the admin has not explicitly opted out"Feb 16 16:27
DaemonFChttps://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2012-February/162809.htmlFeb 16 16:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Apple will use LLVM .::. Size~: 3.15 KBFeb 16 16:28
DaemonFCit's not just the software rasterizer in Mesa that depends on LLVMFeb 16 16:28
DaemonFCit is THE shader compiler for pretty much everything that isn't IntelFeb 16 16:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Now this should be using unhosted IMHO http://ur1.ca/87gm5Feb 16 16:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #ACTA: EU now under immense pressure from within and without to find an exit strategy - http://bit.ly/yuNPt4 NB comment about UK MPs...Feb 16 16:30
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DaemonFCwhen they mention that you can build a Linux kernel with LLVM, that's technically trueFeb 16 16:31
DaemonFCif you're real careful about what modules you buildFeb 16 16:31
DaemonFCLLVM makes a decent JIT compilerFeb 16 16:33
DaemonFCthat's what Mesa and Mono and several other projects use it forFeb 16 16:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] 2 French #ACTA negotiators file criminal “complaint against unknown person” 4 press release issued by Act Up-Paris - http://bit.ly/wMz6auFeb 16 16:35
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DaemonFCApple will settle for inferior results just to get away from the GPLFeb 16 16:36
DaemonFCI don't expect that behavior out of FedoraFeb 16 16:36
DaemonFCthe only reason Apple is moving to it now even though it really isn't ready is because GCC 4.2 is getting pretty crustyFeb 16 16:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Lo scambio di email tra Assange e l'Unesco | La Repubblica http://t.co/ODNyWgDzFeb 16 16:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] EU Trade Deal Could Cost Ontario $1.2 Billion Per Year From Higher Pharma Costs - http://bit.ly/AucWzA so why is #canada doing this?Feb 16 16:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] State Chart XML (SCXML): State Machine Notation for Control Abstraction Draft Published http://ow.ly/1hqC01Feb 16 16:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] SOAP over Java Message Service 1.0 is a W3C Recommendation http://ow.ly/1hqC00Feb 16 16:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] anti-RWA petition, correct URL - http://bit.ly/zG9pG2Feb 16 16:44
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schestowitz[16:20] <koolhead17> mobile yes in coming yrs i willFeb 16 16:44
schestowitzThey'll become harder to dodgeFeb 16 16:45
schestowitzYou can't buy PDAs anymoreFeb 16 16:45
schestowitzThey always come with "phone" 'feature'\Feb 16 16:45
koolhead17am using nokia 1100 currentlyFeb 16 16:46
DaemonFCdynamic power saving mode has improved on the free radeon driverFeb 16 16:46
DaemonFCit used to flicker the screen while reclocking my cardFeb 16 16:46
DaemonFCmaking it so annoying that I gave up and switched it back to profileFeb 16 16:46
MinceRthere are some PDAs available, but difficult to getFeb 16 16:46
MinceRArchos 43 IT, PandoraFeb 16 16:46
MinceRNokia 7xx, N8xx Internet Tablets might still be availableFeb 16 16:47
DaemonFCspeaking of being green.... (and not getting raped on your electric bill)Feb 16 16:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] MIT almost produces an optoelectronic computer chip | (ExtremeTech): http://bit.ly/xr315bFeb 16 16:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] USians: would be good to contact your politicians to ask them to support the pro-#openaccess FRPAA - http://bit.ly/A2MN2Q (v @mrgunn)Feb 16 16:47
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MinceRoh, and of course Samsung Galaxy PlayerFeb 16 16:47
DaemonFCthe backlight setting on most monitors is actually quite usable at 50%Feb 16 16:47
DaemonFC(including mine)Feb 16 16:47
MinceRi'm not sure if you can put GNU/Linux on the Galaxy Player, thoughFeb 16 16:48
DaemonFCthey jack it all the way up to burn out your retinas to impress customers at the storeFeb 16 16:48
MinceRit might be worth a try to search pdadb.netFeb 16 16:49
MinceR(and of course none of them are marketed as "PDA"s nowadays)Feb 16 16:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Documenting the mass surveillance tech companies & their authoritarian customers. First up: FinFisher & Amesys https://eff.org/r.S8DFeb 16 16:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Amazon prepping 9-inch Kindle Fire for mid-2012 launch, report claims http://goo.gl/s7F7L #linuxFeb 16 16:55
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Spy Tech Companies & Their Authoritarian Customers, Part I: FinFisher And Amesys | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 35.68 KBFeb 16 16:55
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Amazon prepping 9-inch Kindle Fire for mid-2012 launch, report claims .::. Size~: 73.77 KBFeb 16 16:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Oregon Scientific announces MEEP! Android tablet, aimed at kids http://goo.gl/P8cDK #android #linuxFeb 16 16:57
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Oregon Scientific announces MEEP! Android tablet, aimed at kidsAndroidGuys .::. Size~: 54.55 KBFeb 16 16:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[torproject/@torproject] Kazakhstan upgrades censorship to DPI: https://blog.torproject.org/blog/kazakhstan-upgrades-censorship-deep-packet-inspectionFeb 16 16:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @AnonyOps: In not allowing @WikiLeaks to attend conference *about* !WL, UNESCO tips its hat that this is a witch hunt. #OccupyUNESCO !badFeb 16 16:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Kazakhstan upgrades censorship to deep packet inspection | The Tor Blog .::. Size~: 16.52 KBFeb 16 16:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Typosquatting sites ‘Wikapedia’ and ‘Twtter’ have been fined $300,000 by UK watchdog - http://tnw.co/xKwkZV nice teeth, thereFeb 16 17:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Typosquatting Sites Fined $300,000 .::. Size~: 97.68 KBFeb 16 17:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Auraslate Is An Open Source Android Tablet For Hackers - http://tcrn.ch/wObVCO niceFeb 16 17:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Auraslate Is An Open Source Android Tablet For Hackers | TechCrunch .::. Size~: 53.58 KBFeb 16 17:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] UNESCO *should* support !Wikileaks "...to further universal respect for justice... rule of law... human rights and fundamental freedoms..."Feb 16 17:04
DaemonFCKazakhstan, best censorship in all of worlds!Feb 16 17:04
DaemonFCHigh five!Feb 16 17:04
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Metztli_IT/status/170191127822086145?iid=am-74725293413294117016853569&nid=4+status_timestamp&uid=26603208Feb 16 17:04
TechrightsBot-tr@Metztli_IT: ♺ @schestowitz #RedHat Brings Gluster to #AWS #Cloud http://t.co/ey6r7ZtG virtual #storage appliance is built on #OpenSource #GlusterFSFeb 16 17:04
schestowitzDaemonFC: is NICEFeb 16 17:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] From encryption to darknets: As governments snoop, activists fight back - http://bit.ly/A7QRFI the inevitable arms raceFeb 16 17:05
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DaemonFChttp://www.techrepublic.com/blog/opensource/rip-compiz/3402?tag=nl.e011Feb 16 17:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: RIP Compiz | TechRepublic .::. Size~: 137.33 KBFeb 16 17:06
DaemonFCGNOME never dropped CompizFeb 16 17:06
DaemonFCit was never officially supportedFeb 16 17:06
schestowitzwell, that's not journalism anywayFeb 16 17:06
DaemonFCchurnalism?Feb 16 17:07
schestowitzrah rah rah!Feb 16 17:07
DaemonFCschestowitz: I checked the copyright and maintainer info on the "Unity"-like KDE pluginsFeb 16 17:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Who are the people USTR clears to see secret text for #TPPA IPR negotiation? - http://bit.ly/AtOcg1 not little people like you & meFeb 16 17:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Who are the people USTR clears to see secret text for TPPA IPR negotiation? | Knowledge Ecology International .::. Size~: 32.79 KBFeb 16 17:09
DaemonFCthe icon-only task manager/launcher applet is part of KDE, upstreamFeb 16 17:09
DaemonFCthe global menu is from CanonicalFeb 16 17:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Cloud. Open. Red Hat. Good choice, Swisscom! Thanks! http://ur1.ca/87h9nFeb 16 17:10
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Thomas Heute - Google+ - When you are personal customer of a company, it's always… .::. Size~: 48.29 KBFeb 16 17:10
DaemonFCwired, I used to read them all the timeFeb 16 17:11
DaemonFCnow they're jsut another outlet for Microsoft-promotionFeb 16 17:11
DaemonFCI remember back in like, 2000, they announced that they were redoing their entire site to be standards compliantFeb 16 17:11
schestowitzNot just Cad?Feb 16 17:12
schestowitzi saw just 2 artivcles there that play for MSFTFeb 16 17:12
DaemonFCit had devolved into a mess of noncompliant HTML that only worked right in IEFeb 16 17:12
schestowitzboth same author... from The RegistrFeb 16 17:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Conferència sobre Wikileaks sense Wikileaks | ARA http://t.co/GiHvHVtnFeb 16 17:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Re: public of the web - http://bit.ly/A9gh0K "how can #Mozilla fuel, bolster, cheer on and be a part of this rising internet public?" #ACTAFeb 16 17:12
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DaemonFCI don't like what I see happening to MozillaFeb 16 17:13
DaemonFCif they're all about free and open source software, and open standards, then why are they only focusing on Windows API and maybe tossing Linux users a bone if they use the Nvidia blob?Feb 16 17:13
DaemonFCas Chrome eats them alive, their revenue will shrinkFeb 16 17:14
DaemonFCbecause every user that's using Chrome instead of Firefox is one less user that Google is paying Mozilla to redirect to themFeb 16 17:14
DaemonFCschestowitz: The last straw for me, with Wired, was their like 4 page long "article" about Bill Gates loving him some open sourceFeb 16 17:16
DaemonFC:)Feb 16 17:16
DaemonFCthe Kindle is competition for the ipadFeb 16 17:18
DaemonFCboth of them restrict what their user can run to a single app storeFeb 16 17:19
DaemonFCthe Kindle is not competition even for entry level Android tabletsFeb 16 17:19
DaemonFC(which, btw, can run Kindle, Nook, and Google Books at once, wow!)Feb 16 17:20
DaemonFChttp://www.muktware.com/articles/3312/what-expect-kubuntu-1204Feb 16 17:20
TechrightsBot-trTitle: What To Expect In Kubuntu 12.04 | Muktware .::. Size~: 31.97 KBFeb 16 17:20
DaemonFC- a better Calligra office suite with KritaFeb 16 17:20
*eebrah (~chatzilla@212.49.88.34) has joined #techrightsFeb 16 17:21
DaemonFCthey need to kick LibreOffice to the curbFeb 16 17:21
DaemonFCand ship Calligra insteadFeb 16 17:21
DaemonFCI'm baffled by Razor-QtFeb 16 17:22
DaemonFCmost Qt applications have dependencies on KDEFeb 16 17:22
DaemonFCthough not allFeb 16 17:22
DaemonFC"Jonathan also wrote that Kubuntu may also include Plasma Active, the tablet UI of KDE."Feb 16 17:23
DaemonFCniceFeb 16 17:23
schestowitzyeahFeb 16 17:23
schestowitz[17:16] <DaemonFC> schestowitz: The last straw for me, with Wired, was their like 4 page long "article" about Bill Gates loving him some open sourceFeb 16 17:24
schestowitzYesFeb 16 17:24
schestowitzsame author Feb 16 17:24
schestowitzCade MetzFeb 16 17:24
schestowitzthose headline (latest one about :"Religion too) are too much like The RegisterFeb 16 17:24
schestowitzjust provocationsFeb 16 17:24
DaemonFCdo they just expect people to not notice that Microsoft has spent the last 10+ years tryign to bury open source?Feb 16 17:25
DaemonFCnow they're trying to tax it to death or convince projects like Mozilla to make it only work right on WindowsFeb 16 17:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Almost there. Keep em coming. http://ur1.ca/87hfaFeb 16 17:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] At which age are boys supposed to discover their constructive talents? Growing concerned we're raising Attila the Hun & Ghengis Khan. ;)Feb 16 17:25
TechrightsBot-trTitle: glyn moody - Google+ - #ACTA: EU now under immense pressure from within and… .::. Size~: 48.43 KBFeb 16 17:25
schestowitzDaemonFC: Microsoft doesn't love open sourceFeb 16 17:26
schestowitzit just wants to screw itFeb 16 17:26
schestowitzthen it can dump itFeb 16 17:26
fewtI don't think they would dump itFeb 16 17:26
schestowitzsee what they do to FOSS projects they "embrace"Feb 16 17:26
fewtthey would make it attractive for users to use with windowsFeb 16 17:26
schestowitzor OfficeFeb 16 17:26
fewtso people wouldn't want to not use WindowsFeb 16 17:26
fewt_Feb 16 17:26
fewt+Feb 16 17:26
fewtcodeplex is an example of thatFeb 16 17:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Patent Beast Intellectual Ventures Sues AT&T - http://bit.ly/xhp8j9 so much for using its patents for innovation, not suing - yeah, rightFeb 16 17:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Goliath vs. Goliath: Patent Beast Intellectual Ventures Sues AT&T                                                         |  paidContent .::. Size~: 43.61 KBFeb 16 17:27
DaemonFCthere's almost nothing on Codeplex that is useful by itselfFeb 16 17:27
DaemonFCit's almost all plugins to some very expensive and proprietary Microsoft softwareFeb 16 17:27
schestowitzhttp://www.esecurityplanet.com/browser-security/google-chrome-17-improves-security.htmlFeb 16 17:28
fewtMost OSS tools that we all know and love have been ported to WindowsFeb 16 17:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Google Chrome 17 Improves Security - eSecurity Planet .::. Size~: 51.39 KBFeb 16 17:28
schestowitznot privacy?Feb 16 17:28
fewtit de-values distributions based on Linux or BSDFeb 16 17:28
DaemonFCsomething that can't do anything at all on its own and only serves as a hook to proprietary software is not open source nor is it free softwareFeb 16 17:28
DaemonFCit doesn't devalue Linux when open source software puts lipstick on Microsoft's pigFeb 16 17:29
fewtWhy go through the pain of installing a new OS when I can install LibreOffice, Pidgin, GIMP, Firefox, and everything else in Windows?Feb 16 17:29
DaemonFCA better question is "Why pay for an expensive Windows license next time around when all that software works on Linux?"Feb 16 17:30
DaemonFCthat's why Microsoft works to undermine CROSS PLATFORM open source softwareFeb 16 17:30
fewtIs that really a valid question though?Feb 16 17:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] No, it's deleting notices that's the problem.Feb 16 17:30
DaemonFCsureFeb 16 17:30
fewtWhen most computers come with Windows?Feb 16 17:31
DaemonFCI've never opened a web page and had malicious software take over my computer with LinuxFeb 16 17:31
DaemonFCbut I have had it happen before with WindowsFeb 16 17:31
fewtand computers sold towards the end of the OS lifecycle often include "free upgrade"?Feb 16 17:31
DaemonFCWindows has built in limitations to make you buy a more expensive license codeFeb 16 17:31
DaemonFCthat's not a free upgrade, it means the version is comes with is a placeholder to stop PC sales from dying in the mean timeFeb 16 17:32
fewtI'm just trying to look at it objectively, looking for areas where I think we should try to show more value. :DFeb 16 17:32
DaemonFCand when the user gets the new version, it's a pain in the ass to installFeb 16 17:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] You know how they win hearts and minds? If they make ROMs that work on existing Android tablets and phones. Not through FUD.Feb 16 17:32
DaemonFCand their peripherals and software may no longer work right with itFeb 16 17:32
fewtTrying to view it through the eyes of someone that isn't a geek like us.Feb 16 17:32
DaemonFCif they didn't frame it as a free upgrade, then PC sales woudl take a nose dive as soon as people thought a new Windows release was imminentFeb 16 17:33
fewtWhich is why it makes sense that they do.Feb 16 17:33
fewtFrom a business perspective, it makes a lot of sense.Feb 16 17:34
fewtHow do you compete with "free"Feb 16 17:34
fewtoffer something "free"Feb 16 17:34
DaemonFCI'd rather just avoid expensive and unnecessary upsellsFeb 16 17:34
DaemonFClike anything since Windows 2000 has beenFeb 16 17:34
fewtbecause a non-geek doesn't know the difference of libre vs gratisFeb 16 17:34
DaemonFCit takes very little work for them to release more or less the same thing every few yearsFeb 16 17:35
DaemonFCand switch the theme around a bit to make it look newFeb 16 17:35
DaemonFCaside from some very minor evolutionary changes that took way too long and a huge layer of excess crap, it's still Windows 2000Feb 16 17:36
DaemonFCas far as I'm concerned, that was the last major improvement they made to WindowsFeb 16 17:36
fewtI think XP service pack 3 was greater than 2KFeb 16 17:37
DaemonFCsure it takes 10 times the resources nowFeb 16 17:37
DaemonFCwhat does it do for me that it wasn't doing before?Feb 16 17:37
DaemonFCnothing!Feb 16 17:37
fewtbecause that's where they rewrote much of the OS to be more resilient towards malware.Feb 16 17:37
DaemonFCoh, but they want to sell you it over and overFeb 16 17:37
DaemonFCand make you buy new PCsFeb 16 17:37
DaemonFCMicrosoft's business model is kind of like the RIAA and MPAA'sFeb 16 17:38
DaemonFCselling you the same thing multiple timesFeb 16 17:38
DaemonFCforcing incompatibilities so you can't stay on the old formatFeb 16 17:38
fewtI don't have an opinion on that.Feb 16 17:38
DaemonFCas far as I'm concerned, I have a right to a copy of any movie I ever boughtFeb 16 17:38
fewtI agreeFeb 16 17:39
DaemonFCincluding VHS tapes that have worn outFeb 16 17:39
fewtyesFeb 16 17:39
fewtYou have an archival right.Feb 16 17:39
DaemonFCI think it's pathetic that they've started pulling this shit with iTunesFeb 16 17:40
fewtI don't use itunesFeb 16 17:40
fewtactually, I'm about to put my old iphone 3g on ebayFeb 16 17:40
DaemonFCwhere you buy music and then if you want the DRM to come off, you have to buy the files all over againFeb 16 17:40
DaemonFCthen if you want a copy at a higher bitrate?Feb 16 17:40
DaemonFCBUY IT AGAINFeb 16 17:40
fewtI installed it long enough to flash it to factory, and now it's going away.Feb 16 17:40
DaemonFCwhat a bunch of fucking parasitesFeb 16 17:40
DaemonFCright?Feb 16 17:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[torproject/@torproject] Tor Weather provides an email notification service to those who want to monitor the status of a #Tor relay: https://weather.torproject.org/Feb 16 17:40
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fewtI buy music at AmazonFeb 16 17:40
DaemonFCAmazon is a far better deal than iTunesFeb 16 17:41
fewtvia banshee if possibleFeb 16 17:41
DaemonFCso is 7digital for that matterFeb 16 17:41
iophkhttp://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/12/gps-dataFeb 16 17:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Feds 'Pinged' Sprint GPS Data 8 Million Times Over a Year | Threat Level | Wired.com .::. Size~: 59.88 KBFeb 16 17:41
DaemonFCat least the patents on MP3 decoding will expire within the next several yearsFeb 16 17:41
DaemonFCyou'll never have the unfettered right to play files you got off iTunesFeb 16 17:42
fewtYou can get a free distributable MP3 codec license Feb 16 17:42
DaemonFCunless you wait until the 2030sFeb 16 17:42
fewtI have one for FuduntuFeb 16 17:42
DaemonFCI don't recognize those patentsFeb 16 17:43
DaemonFCand I'm not installing proprietary "freeware" just to get a license to something I don't recognize as legitimateFeb 16 17:43
DaemonFCI use Gstreamer's MAD plugin when I need to decode an MP3Feb 16 17:44
DaemonFCfuck the US governmentFeb 16 17:44
DaemonFCfuck the MPEG-lAFeb 16 17:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #RaspberryPi benchmarked against Beagleboard, low price is long term http://goo.gl/r00Vs #linuxFeb 16 17:44
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Raspberry Pi benchmarked against Beagleboard, low price is long term | Linux User .::. Size~: 51.48 KBFeb 16 17:44
DaemonFCfuck them with a rusty pipeFeb 16 17:44
DaemonFC:)Feb 16 17:44
fewtThat's a little extreme lolFeb 16 17:44
DaemonFCthere's entirely too much rent seeking going on thereFeb 16 17:45
DaemonFCfewt: OK, I'll compromise with youFeb 16 17:45
DaemonFCbring me the sons of bitches that run the MPEG LAFeb 16 17:45
DaemonFCand we can....Feb 16 17:45
DaemonFCcrucify themFeb 16 17:45
DaemonFC:)Feb 16 17:45
DaemonFCbetter?Feb 16 17:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] pre-order registration for Spark is live now on http://makeplaylive.com ... http://ur1.ca/87huxFeb 16 17:45
DaemonFCgoodFeb 16 17:45
DaemonFC:)Feb 16 17:45
DaemonFCthat's who needs to go to prisonFeb 16 17:46
fewtlolFeb 16 17:46
DaemonFCCharles Manson, Chris Dodd, and the people that run the MPEG-LAFeb 16 17:46
DaemonFCWhen I am king, I will serve Chris Dodd notice to butter up his cornholeFeb 16 17:47
DaemonFCbecause he's going to federal prisonFeb 16 17:47
DaemonFCvote for meFeb 16 17:47
DaemonFC:)Feb 16 17:47
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: aseigo: Spark pre-order registration is open! .::. Size~: 68.45 KBFeb 16 17:48
schestowitzFarmer for president?Feb 16 17:48
DaemonFCunder my regime, any politician that has taken money from them, gets to go to prison with themFeb 16 17:49
DaemonFCKINGFeb 16 17:49
schestowitziophk: maybe they just watch out for children /sarcasmFeb 16 17:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Mozilla's #Boot2Gecko mobile platform and Gaia UI - bit.ly/xwD2Uc excellent intro to exciting #linux-based projectFeb 16 17:49
schestowitzDaemonFC: like a bossFeb 16 17:49
DaemonFCseize their assets and deport them all to MexicoFeb 16 17:50
DaemonFCfuck, I don't knowFeb 16 17:50
DaemonFCjust get rid of themFeb 16 17:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] W3C Opens Office in Russia http://ow.ly/1hqFR4Feb 16 17:50
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DaemonFCI like how Bill Hicks put itFeb 16 17:51
DaemonFCHe said he figures that each new president gets taken into a room with all these rich business criminalsFeb 16 17:51
DaemonFCand gets shown a tape of the Kennedy assassination Feb 16 17:52
DaemonFCfrom an angle never seen by the publicFeb 16 17:52
DaemonFC"What's that? Bomb Iraq? Right on it!"Feb 16 17:52
schestowitzLOLFeb 16 17:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] erf.. seems traffic has crushed the server. crazy. need to bring in more capacity apparently. crazy. another late night.Feb 16 17:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Indian Government To Track Locations of All Cell Phone Users - http://bit.ly/yv0ybY 1st censorship, now this: not good #indiaFeb 16 17:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Indian Government To Track Locations of All Cell Phone Users - Slashdot .::. Size~: 188.38 KBFeb 16 17:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Heartland Feels The Heat Over #AntiScience Climate Change Strategy - http://onforb.es/xQLKpe great slapdown #denialismFeb 16 17:57
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Heartland Feels The Heat Over Anti-Science Climate Change Strategy - Forbes .::. Size~: 129.61 KBFeb 16 17:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Tim Cook: I don’t really think anything Microsoft does puts pressure on Apple - http://tnw.co/xmBENy ouch #hasbeenFeb 16 17:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Tim Cook: Microsoft Has No Influence on Apple .::. Size~: 97.22 KBFeb 16 17:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] L'Unesco non invita WikileaksFeb 16 18:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Microsoft licensing hike sparks UK piracy, bankruptcy fears - http://bit.ly/Ac8ptg 35% hike? looks like a good time to switch to #opensourceFeb 16 18:02
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iophkFrom here it looks like M$ has plenty of influence on AppleFeb 16 18:05
iophkhttp://venturebeat.com/2011/09/03/icloud-azure-amazon/Feb 16 18:05
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iophklet's not forget ODF support (or lack thereof) tooFeb 16 18:05
iophkSame with ties to MS VPNs and groupwareFeb 16 18:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Open source at the movies http://ur1.ca/85qhj #filmFeb 16 18:07
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1303997 "I can't find oxygen-transparent in the themes selection > Get New Themes (on Debian testing). Did you install it manually? "Feb 16 18:13
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schestowitz"I can't find oxygen-transparent in the Window Decorations > Get New Decorations (on Debian testing). Did you install it manually? "Feb 16 18:13
schestowitz"Feb 16 18:13
schestowitzI'm using Kubuntu and got it from a PPA. " " Building it from source now. "Feb 16 18:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] GLAMcamp DC kicks off U.S. coordination of @Wikipedia efforts around cultural heritage projects: http://bit.ly/AAhs8l @glamwiki #glamwikiFeb 16 18:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] ok, adjusted some server resources, seems to be back to life.. whew!Feb 16 18:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: GLAMcamp DC kicks off US coordination of GLAM-Wiki efforts — Wikimedia blog .::. Size~: 22.49 KBFeb 16 18:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Today noone liked me. #mysuckylife http://ur1.ca/87ibyFeb 16 18:19
TechrightsBot-trTitle: George Rodenbaugh - Google+ .::. Size~: 70.16 KBFeb 16 18:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] RT @aseigo pre-order registration for Spark is live now on http://makeplaylive.com ... http://ur1.ca/87huxFeb 16 18:24
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Make Play Live: Spark Pre-Order Registration .::. Size~: 32.23 KBFeb 16 18:24
TechrightsBot-trTitle: aseigo: Spark pre-order registration is open! .::. Size~: 77.12 KBFeb 16 18:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] that is what they depend on, even having a "connection manager" bash script but it messed up ny network manager big timeFeb 16 18:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] now I cannot use my network manager applet at all!Feb 16 18:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] Not really, my coffee is some harsh stuff, I am only in it for the caffeine hence need sugar to swallow it ... usuallyFeb 16 18:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] #nuffsaid. Megauncool. Pun intended. http://ur1.ca/87ijkFeb 16 18:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] It has been known to happen. read poverty activist Julian Ichim's blog http://julianichim.wordpress.com/Feb 16 18:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] "Tae Kwon Do in your face, baby" http://ur1.ca/87iju Feb 16 18:29
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abushcrafterforgPDA = Nano NoteFeb 16 18:36
schestowitz"Compiled and installed it, switched widget style and window decorations to oxygen-transparent, but I don't get that kind of darkish look as in the screenshot at all. Looks like regular oxygen. " https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1303997Feb 16 18:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] I'm just tired of being attacked by you @vanden ... go troll somebody else.Feb 16 18:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Thanks. I'll look at it later. (Have to get back to formatting now. :)Feb 16 18:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] good evening @sandersch !tzagFeb 16 18:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] http://bit.ly/x1EPaZFeb 16 18:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Assange denunciaFeb 16 18:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] @nj3ma Just in case you are still into that isht, I've had a jabber account for a while nowFeb 16 18:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] How Do We Know #Piracy Isn't Really A Big Issue? Because Media Companies Haven't Needed To Change As A Result - http://bit.ly/x1EPaZFeb 16 18:52
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fewtHow do we know business isn't really a big issue?  Because Pirates are staying out at sea. ARGH :)Feb 16 18:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] #nuffsaid http://ur1.ca/87j2eFeb 16 18:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Wer braucht eigentlich noch ACTA wenn in Deutschland die GEMA eh dafür sorgt das wir im Tal der Ahnungslosen vegetier... http://b1t.it/aQLGFeb 16 18:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] UNESCO bans WikiLeaks from international conference on WikiLeaks | DT http://t.co/UBHISgDEFeb 16 19:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 10 years after famous #Slashdot marriage proposal, couple discusses wisdom of 'popping the question' in public http://goo.gl/de94L #sdFeb 16 19:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] A New `Locally Integrated Menubar` Might Land In Ubuntu 12.04 http://goo.gl/DbVeh #ubuntuFeb 16 19:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] 'Colbert Report' off air; network offers no explanation http://identi.ca/url/66701600Feb 16 19:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 10 Pentesting Linux Distributions You Should Try http://ur1.ca/86wt6 #linuxFeb 16 19:20
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schestowitzDaemonFC: "change your color scheme " well,  duh :-) :-) https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1303997Feb 16 19:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Spark pre-order registration is open! http://ur1.ca/87hux #kde #tabletFeb 16 19:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] no, of course...Feb 16 19:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Dear VC folks, can we get a pledge from you to make all code from failed startups Open Source so others can reuse code... http://b1t.it/aQMLFeb 16 19:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] yes, that's true - assuming they have full control and the logsFeb 16 19:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] no idea, but details will doubtless emergeFeb 16 19:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Lèse majesté trial of Prachatai editor @jiew wraps up. The verdict will be announced April 30th - https://eff.org/r.S9E #freejiewFeb 16 19:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Halting dent destruction to give @bkuhn reasonable time to make copies. Dent destruction to resume RSN.Feb 16 19:34
MinceRmore lies from fascists >> http://i.imgur.com/EVDpV.jpgFeb 16 19:34
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MinceRallegedly it's a fake, actuallyFeb 16 19:35
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MinceRhttp://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/psalj/a_bomb_wont_go_off_here/Feb 16 19:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Is this fake? http://ur1.ca/87jyp [IMG]Feb 16 19:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] YES! "Präsidenten-Affäre: Staatsanwaltschaft beantragt Aufhebung von Wulffs Immunität" - http://ur1.ca/87jz2... http://b1t.it/aQM1Feb 16 19:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] The future is a RESTful Drupal (Dries Buytaert): http://bit.ly/xCvaDVFeb 16 19:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] A decade after the #BOAI: #OpenAccess academic publishing is more successful than ever, but it faces challenges - https://eff.org/r.S7FFeb 16 19:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Thursday's security updates http://ur1.ca/87k8kFeb 16 19:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Introducing Comice OS 4: The Mac-Looking Linux http://goo.gl/qcxLD #apple #osux #linux #gnuFeb 16 19:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Controlling Liquor Loss with #Linux http://ur1.ca/87k8q #boozeFeb 16 19:50
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DaemonFCuhhhmFeb 16 19:52
DaemonFCMinceR: The stupid.....it burnsFeb 16 19:53
DaemonFC:)Feb 16 19:53
DaemonFCA bomb won't go off here because Chris Dodd is a little more obscenely rich?Feb 16 19:53
DaemonFCI don't get itFeb 16 19:53
fewtComice OS 4, I don't know what they are trying to achieve there other than a lawsuit.Feb 16 19:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] :-) http://ur1.ca/87kbiFeb 16 19:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Jan Wildeboer - Google+ - Dear VC folks, can we get a pledge from you to make all… .::. Size~: 53.26 KBFeb 16 19:54
DaemonFCMinceR: A bomb won't go off here, because anti-terrorism funds are going to pay overweight cops to write speeding tickets.Feb 16 19:55
DaemonFChooray, speeding ticketsFeb 16 19:55
DaemonFCis that photoshopped?Feb 16 19:56
DaemonFCit seems like a stretch, even for themFeb 16 19:56
MinceRapparently it is shoppedFeb 16 19:57
schestowitzgimped :>Feb 16 20:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] How can the layman get involved with FOSS? http://ur1.ca/87kgfFeb 16 20:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is sandersch from identi.ca with 93 dents!Feb 16 20:00
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schestowitzwas the gimp logged shopped of gimped (chicken and egg)?Feb 16 20:01
schestowitz*logoFeb 16 20:01
MinceRnot really a chicken and egg thingFeb 16 20:02
MinceRthe first release that had a logo had to be sufficiently working to create the first logo, and it didn't need to have the logo integrated prior to releaseFeb 16 20:02
MinceR(tl;dr: gimp can be fully functional without a logo)Feb 16 20:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Hank @Shocklee, Dan Friel @dfrieldfriel, & guest DJs at the @EFF SXSW Mashup Party! Music Tech Policy Unite: https://eff.org/sxswFeb 16 20:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Truth. http://ur1.ca/87kjw http://ur1.ca/87kjxFeb 16 20:04
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DaemonFChttps://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2012-February/162847.htmlFeb 16 20:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Apple will use LLVM .::. Size~: 3.9 KBFeb 16 20:04
MinceRhttp://geekandpoke.typepad.com/geekandpoke/2011/05/in-the-aftermath-of-locationgate.htmlFeb 16 20:04
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DaemonFCFreeBSD will save us?Feb 16 20:04
DaemonFCJesus, are we that fucked?Feb 16 20:04
DaemonFClolFeb 16 20:04
DaemonFCFreeBSD developers are basically just meatpuppets for whatever Apple wantsFeb 16 20:05
MinceRwait, what? fedora wants to depend on llvm? why?Feb 16 20:06
DaemonFCand the parts of their system that I care about resemble where Linux was about 5-6 years agoFeb 16 20:06
MinceRand yes, crApple is that fucked, and it's by their own choiceFeb 16 20:06
DaemonFCit would be nice if GCC became a decent just in time compilerFeb 16 20:07
DaemonFCand we could forget about using LLVM at allFeb 16 20:07
DaemonFCbut right now, it really sucks in that roleFeb 16 20:07
DaemonFCit's not like the situation is dire, people who don't hate the GPL can use whichever is most appropriate for a given caseFeb 16 20:08
DaemonFCApple and their meatpuppets are the only ones trying to get LLVM to compile an operating system for themFeb 16 20:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Wulff war der erste Groupon-Präsident, sozusagen. Schnäppchenjäger kling mir zu '95 :-)Feb 16 20:10
DaemonFCI'd like to know where they get off saying the GPL 3 is killing GCCFeb 16 20:11
DaemonFCGCC development hasn't slowed down at allFeb 16 20:12
DaemonFCmost of the companies that contribute to GCC don't care about the particulars of the GPL, they want software that works better for themFeb 16 20:12
DaemonFCcontributing to GCC is just a means to an end Feb 16 20:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Despite its name change, online surveillance bill continues to receive huge backlash in Canada https://eff.org/r.S8M #stopspying #c30Feb 16 20:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Microsoft investe 800 mil euros para ajudar PME a aceder a fundos - Jornalnegócios http://goo.gl/Nv8A6 ou como chular o contribuinteFeb 16 20:14
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schestowitzcan you compile the latest gcc with the very latest gcc?Feb 16 20:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Goldman Analyst Is Said to Face Insider Trading Inquiry http://goo.gl/bEqiS expensive #fraudFeb 16 20:15
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DaemonFCuhhhm, sure?Feb 16 20:15
DaemonFChttps://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2012-February/162859.htmlFeb 16 20:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Apple will use LLVM .::. Size~: 3.14 KBFeb 16 20:16
DaemonFC"Bugs have been filed with LLVM for well over a year, and they are aware of the unresolved LLVM issues preventing kernel builds."Feb 16 20:16
DaemonFCBecause Apple doesn't care if LLVM compiles a Linux kernelFeb 16 20:16
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/90684406Feb 16 20:18
TechrightsBot-tr@Gabriel Saldana (gabrielsaldana)'s status on Thursday, 16-Feb-12 16:28:16 UTC - Identi.ca: @gnutek absolutely, this software makes me cry and I've read only to page 3 of the docsFeb 16 20:18
schestowitzhttp://www.cloudtweaks.com/2012/02/are-the-big-players-being-hypocritical-on-cloud-computing-standards/Feb 16 20:19
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Are The Big Players Being Hypocritical On Cloud Computing Standards? | CloudTweaks.com - Cloud Computing Community .::. Size~: 68.01 KBFeb 16 20:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] Ran into the first #shortcoming of @orangekenya 21Mbps net today, went out of coverage area and speeds dropped! coverage is limitedFeb 16 20:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @lnxwalt @piwik As an open source project, you should have an account on one or more FOSS #socnets . #Identica is a great place to be.Feb 16 20:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @eximious Need more coffee.Feb 16 20:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] First look: Mozilla's Boot2Gecko mobile platform and Gaia UI http://goo.gl/veiGM #mozilla #geckoFeb 16 20:22
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DaemonFCit's generally a bad idea to even attempt to run a Fedora pre-release until they've turned off the kernel debugging featuresFeb 16 20:22
DaemonFCthose take a sizable bite out of the performance you can expect to get from the kernel, across the boardFeb 16 20:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @openattitude If anyone's interested, I've updated my post on the Meizu MX (it was missing a photo): http://bit.ly/ABR8e7 !androidFeb 16 20:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @paviles First look: Mozilla's Boot2Gecko Mobile Platform and Gaia UI http://ow.ly/1hqRB9Feb 16 20:24
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Hands-on in Hong Kong with the Meizu MX. | Open attitude. .::. Size~: 29.6 KBFeb 16 20:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Sabayon 8 Screenshots http://ur1.ca/87kw8 #linuxFeb 16 20:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Sabayon 8 Screenshots | Linux, BSD, Solaris & Other OS Screenshots | The Leader in Linux, BSD, Solaris & Other OS Screenshots | Screen Shots of Linux Distributions, BSD, Solaris & Other OSes | Linux, BSD, Solaris & Other OS Screenshot Gallery .::. Size~: 29.21 KBFeb 16 20:27
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DaemonFCSabayon comes with FGLRX and if you want rid of it, there's this whole process that would make Rube Golberg proudFeb 16 20:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Comice OS 4 Screenshot Tour http://ur1.ca/87ky4 #gnu #linuxFeb 16 20:30
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DaemonFCoh, not only do they toss in nonfree drivers, they don't bother including AMD Control CenterFeb 16 20:31
DaemonFCso there's no way to tweak it or turn on triple buffering so it doesn't tearFeb 16 20:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] How Much Would Debian Cost to Develop? How About $19 Billion? (Read Write Web): http://rww.to/zgiI4pFeb 16 20:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #AppMenu Runner: HUD-Like Functionality For #KDE http://ur1.ca/87l3eFeb 16 20:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Netrunner 4.1 version (32/64bit) http://ur1.ca/80fh8 #gnu #linuxFeb 16 20:37
TechrightsBot-trTitle: AppMenu Runner: HUD-Like Functionality For KDE ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog .::. Size~: 63.08 KBFeb 16 20:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] #Wulff war der erste Groupon-Präsident, sozusagen. Schnäppchenjäger kling mir zu '95 :-)Feb 16 20:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Stella 6.2 Test 12 Screen Captures http://ur1.ca/87l82Feb 16 20:44
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/90695860Feb 16 20:47
TechrightsBot-tr@حالة foonetic (lnxwalt280) (lnxwalt280) في يوم Thursday, 16-Feb-12 20:35:22 UTC - 280: @schestowitz Downloaded #Sabayon 8 KDE yesterday. Will install today.Feb 16 20:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] #Wulff tritt zurück in 10 ... 9 ... 8 ... 7 ... #JedeWetteFeb 16 20:49
DaemonFChttps://www.readwriteweb.com/hack/2012/02/firefox-roadmap-for-2012-calls.phpFeb 16 20:49
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DaemonFC"The Mozilla folks are also planning to add a Chrome migration tool" to help the millions of users fleeing Firefox to go TO Chrome?Feb 16 20:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Comparison Test: #LinuxMint 12 "Lisa" #KDE vs. #Netrunner 4.1 "Dryland" http://goo.gl/7uxyX #gnu #linuxFeb 16 20:50
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DaemonFC:)Feb 16 20:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Choosing a #SHTF Dog - YouTube http://goo.gl/7Wfqr #preppersFeb 16 20:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] From @wethepeople: Lower the national debt by expanding the government's use of free software | http://ow.ly/97m8f #opengovFeb 16 20:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Choosing a SHTF Dog       - YouTube .::. Size~: 143.76 KBFeb 16 20:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] RSA keys not as random as they should be (The H) http://ur1.ca/87ljoFeb 16 21:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @schestowitz Comparison Test: #LinuxMint 12 "Lisa" #KDE vs. #Netrunner 4.1 "Dryland" http://goo.gl/7uxyX #gnu #linuxFeb 16 21:10
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Das U-Blog by Prashanth: Comparison Test: Linux Mint 12 "Lisa" KDE vs. Netrunner 4.1 "Dryland" .::. Size~: 113.02 KBFeb 16 21:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #SolusOS 049 Screen Shots http://ur1.ca/87lo9 #gnu #linuxFeb 16 21:15
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/90697155Feb 16 21:16
TechrightsBot-tr@Захария Стургин (redxine)'s status on Thursday, 16-Feb-12 21:09:53 UTC - Identi.ca: ... if not then the British transport police must really love short-circuit logical fallacies.Feb 16 21:16
schestowitz"Thanks, that's better. Integrating it with GTK programs however is trickier, since they just ignore this transparency." https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1303997Feb 16 21:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] If Cameron believes these powers are good for #Scotland, why use it as a bribe? Wait, it worked short term for #Blair http://gu.com/p/35gtgFeb 16 21:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] "if you do what we want and leave us in charge, we'll throw you a few extra crumbs from our table" #Tories #CameronFeb 16 21:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #NewsInternational needs to decontaminate the #Sun brand http://gu.com/p/35gkbFeb 16 21:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] A corrosive tax abuse in the health department http://gu.com/p/35gkvFeb 16 21:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Work for free and 'be of benefit' to a multinational like #Tesco http://gu.com/p/35gh7Feb 16 21:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle: News International needs to decontaminate the Sun brand | Brian Cathcart | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 253.49 KBFeb 16 21:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle: A corrosive tax abuse in the health department | Richard Murphy | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 274.01 KBFeb 16 21:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Work for free and 'be of benefit' to a multinational like Tesco | John Harris | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 283.08 KBFeb 16 21:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Civic life and law must bind us, not ritual and religion http://gu.com/p/35gqyFeb 16 21:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Civic life and law must bind us, not ritual and religion | Polly Toynbee | Comment is free | The Guardian .::. Size~: 275.83 KBFeb 16 21:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] Yaani nilikuwa nimesahau aje #Hung? #nowdownloadingFeb 16 21:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Whitehall tax schemes: biting the hand that feeds http://gu.com/p/35hvmFeb 16 21:30
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Whitehall tax schemes: biting the hand that feeds | Comment is free | The Guardian .::. Size~: 172.38 KBFeb 16 21:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Parsix GNU/Linux 3.7r2 Is Available for Download http://goo.gl/Am6vO #ParsixFeb 16 21:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] W3C Opens Office in Russia: http://bit.ly/xgZrllFeb 16 21:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Apache approves the Red Hat-originated Deltacloud as a Top-Level Project (InfoWorld): http://bit.ly/wswUtDFeb 16 21:39
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DaemonFChttp://content.usatoday.com/communities/onpolitics/post/2012/02/foster-friess-bayer-aspirin-contraceptives-santorum-/1#.Tz14NNzxBhEFeb 16 21:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Torrone: The {Unspoken} Rules of Open Source Hardware http://ur1.ca/87m7sFeb 16 21:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] AV 5.0.3 Screenshots http://ur1.ca/87m99 #gnu #linuxFeb 16 21:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Frugalware 1.6 http://ur1.ca/87mb2 #gnu #linuxFeb 16 21:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[freemjd/@freemjd] Fingers Crossed http://ur1.ca/87mb0 What the 80's should have sounded like. !Jamendo !ccmusic #BY-NC-SAFeb 16 21:47
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Frugalware 1.6 Comes With Cinnamon and Firefox 10 - Softpedia .::. Size~: 47.36 KBFeb 16 21:47
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/90698577Feb 16 21:49
TechrightsBot-tr@Jenny Ondioline (dothidden)'s status on Thursday, 16-Feb-12 21:43:01 UTC - Identi.ca: WT_F!?Feb 16 21:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Só me apetece cobrir!: Os senhores da guerra (Parte 1) http://goo.gl/99foc #iran vs #usa #ukFeb 16 21:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @zahra Who wants me to follow her/him? (Female preferably!) :-P !Identica !IdentiverseFeb 16 21:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @tomsky So instead of doing the essay for tomorrow I'm arguing with mac users on Facebook. Why do I always do this to my selfFeb 16 21:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] Yes, Why indeed?Feb 16 21:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @patrickniedzielski Because they're wrong.Feb 16 21:59
schestowitzDaemonFC: "What color scheme was used in the screenshot btw?" https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1303997Feb 16 22:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @glynmoody How Do We Know #Piracy Isn't Really A Big Issue? Because Media Companies Haven't Needed To Change As A Result - http://bit ...Feb 16 22:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Narrative Science Uses Twitter To Create Automated Stories (AllThingsD): http://dthin.gs/wQZNfoFeb 16 22:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] SSDs have a 'bleak' future, researchers say - Computerworld http://bit.ly/zm6C7GFeb 16 22:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @x11r5: @mvdan Every time i read that as "trolling". Whoops. No idea about debian packaging today. Fun fact: it's better than advertisingFeb 16 22:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Bank of America transforms man's one hundred dollar check in to $3.3 million http://identi.ca/url/66709673Feb 16 22:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] 'Typosquatting' premium rate phone firms fined £100,000 http://goo.gl/2HJRm only £100,00? #toothless #crimepaysFeb 16 22:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] Original: Accessibility Leaders in Linux bit.ly/wIEQhT #linuxFeb 16 22:20
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Jury awards $3.3 million to man wrongfully detained in Aventura bank scare - Aventura / Sunny Isles - MiamiHerald.com .::. Size~: 91.94 KBFeb 16 22:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] But that would only encourage that type of behavior and I don't think the world needs fanatics, apple users includedFeb 16 22:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] Q: What do you get when combining famous quotes "All it takes for the triumph of evil..." and "Lord protect me from my friends..." ?Feb 16 22:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] A: "All it takes for the triumph of evil is for the champions of good to be morons."Feb 16 22:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] Ran into yet another person who thinks you *must* use the command line interface to install software on linuxFeb 16 22:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] RT @gabrielsaldana how to identify #HTML5 http://i.imgur.com/2Kq6Y.jpgFeb 16 22:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] I thought housing in Berlin was cheap and plentiful. Am I living in a fantasy world?Feb 16 22:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] He justified it by stating "I have used Linux for a long time" all I could think was "...and you never found the graphical package manager?"Feb 16 22:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Really? Did you get to the hammer part yet?Feb 16 22:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Yes, that's exactly why I'm building it. I'd like to see more such search systems. Could MediaGoblin ping by default, too?Feb 16 22:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Directors Guild Boss Insists That Everyone Against SOPA/PIPA Was Duped http://goo.gl/UijkjFeb 16 22:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] you'd think industries who claim to be THE #creative force in society, would be more creative in selling their bullshit laws to the publicFeb 16 22:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] still, these are the same folks who continually flog dead horses with sequels, prequels, remakes, reboots etc & avoid anything newFeb 16 22:35
MinceRhttp://www.osnews.com/story/25619/Mac_OS_X_10_8_restricted_to_App_Store_signed_apps_by_defaultFeb 16 22:43
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MinceRhttp://www.reddit.com/tb/ps6c5Feb 16 22:46
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/NavinChauhan/status/170267897657180160?iid=am-212939495113294300050100641&nid=4+status_timestamp&uid=26603208Feb 16 22:55
TechrightsBot-tr@NavinChauhan: @schestowitz very interesting .... thanksFeb 16 22:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Cameron will "consider transferring more powers to Scotland" IF they do his bidding - #prediction - considered, decided not toFeb 16 22:57
schestowitzMinceR: about that bannerhttp://identi.ca/notice/9070153   2ttp://identi.ca/notice/90701532Feb 16 22:58
TechrightsBot-trNot a dent?Feb 16 22:58
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/90701673 http://identi.ca/notice/90701532Feb 16 22:58
TechrightsBot-tr@Andrew Alderwick (alderwick)'s status on Thursday, 16-Feb-12 22:55:50 UTC - Identi.ca: ... though the bad punctuation in the top text and the spelling of the word “organized” in the bottom made me suspicious to begin with!Feb 16 22:58
TechrightsBot-tr@Andrew Alderwick (alderwick)'s status on Thursday, 16-Feb-12 22:52:08 UTC - Identi.ca: Yes, it's a fake. I turned up the contrast and you can see where the fake text is blended with the rest of the image. http://ur1.ca/87n8wFeb 16 22:58
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amarsh04time for a new kernel...Feb 16 22:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Meet FinFisher & Amesys, two leading companies that supply mass spying tech to countries that violate human rights https://eff.org/r.S8DFeb 16 23:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] All right, send me an email. evan@status.net.Feb 16 23:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] bribery is not illegal if politicians do itFeb 16 23:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] RT @dpic @rms "People said I should accept the world. Bullshit! I don't accept the world." - Richard M. Stallman http://redd.it/psz19 !g ...Feb 16 23:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Spy Tech Companies & Their Authoritarian Customers, Part I: FinFisher And Amesys | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 35.7 KBFeb 16 23:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Good luck on that one.Feb 16 23:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @hook: I understand why businesses would prefer lax licenses, but business is not always in the best interest of the end-user.Feb 16 23:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Cameron cynically trying to buy a no vote, with no intention of honoring his offer - "consider AFTER the vote", claim victory then give 0%Feb 16 23:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Don't let Congress use #cybersecurity fears to undermine digital rights. https://eff.org/r.4SP #privacyFeb 16 23:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Sydney, Feb 17, 6pm UTS: Christine Assange, Jennifer Robinson & co WikiLeaks, Assange and Democracy http://t.co/mcX2zPB0Feb 16 23:10
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Action Alert | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 21.53 KBFeb 16 23:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] RT @forteller RT @ioerror: Obfsproxy: the next step in the censorship arms race: http://is.gd/o8CQWh #tor #ssl #obfsproxy #censorshipFeb 16 23:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Ubuntu 10.04.4 LTS released http://ur1.ca/87nntFeb 16 23:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] @torproject releases Obsproxy in war on censorship https://t.co/0iySnDHGFeb 16 23:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] thanks for your support :) we had a bit more interest at the beginning that anticipated, so had to crank up the server a bit. all good now.Feb 16 23:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Takedowns run amok? The strange Secret Service/GoDaddy assault on JotForm http://goo.gl/qLlOs one more reason to avoid #GoDaddyFeb 16 23:27
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schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TCTsDjg9fY&feature=digest_monFeb 16 23:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Fox News Makes Me Lose My Shit       - YouTube .::. Size~: 133.78 KBFeb 16 23:29
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DaemonFCmy eyes!!!Feb 16 23:38
DaemonFC*ugh*Feb 16 23:38
DaemonFCplayed that game too longFeb 16 23:38
DaemonFCI've almost defeated the Communists thoughFeb 16 23:39
DaemonFCB-)Feb 16 23:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Lea: The Unity design process (and how you can play a part in it) http://ur1.ca/87nvgFeb 16 23:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 16/2/2012: Netrunner 4.1, More Ubuntu 12.04 Previews http://ur1.ca/87nvd #techrightsFeb 16 23:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @kevie: Hehehe how can you tell if it's HTML or HTML5? http://b1t.it/aQSR windoze failFeb 16 23:45
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DaemonFCI don't see why Microsoft ReFS is getting any coverageFeb 16 23:47
DaemonFCit won't be in Windows 8, it will be in the Server version that starts at $500 a copyFeb 16 23:47
DaemonFCevery article I've seen so far leaves out the little detail that Microsoft is going to keep home users on the same old shitFeb 16 23:47

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