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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] !linuxlibre 3.2.6-libre-lemote, 3.0.21-libre-lemote, 2.6.32.57-libre2-lemote and 2.6.27.61-libre5-lemote debs for !gnewsense !yeeloong out | Feb 16 00:02 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Hotmail's Spam Filter: The Best In the Business? http://goo.gl/Lbdba #Microsoft lying yet again #surprisesurprise | Feb 16 00:04 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @m_cetera: US: 500th Simpsons episode feat. Julian #Assange airs Sunday, 8PM on Fox http://t.co/3HdmfpB6 | Feb 16 00:10 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Irão desmente suspensão das exportações de petróleo para a Europa- Mercados - Jornal de negócios online http://goo.gl/LRs2Q | Feb 16 00:20 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Is it Open Hardware? Cool stuff! http://ur1.ca/86y94 | Feb 16 00:20 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Julian Assange and the Supreme Master | New Yorker http://t.co/3cuXvurn | Feb 16 00:27 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Thanks for reporting. Now #silenced. | Feb 16 00:27 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Teller is fucking awesome http://identi.ca/url/2821080 | Feb 16 00:29 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Hey #Marketers! Instead of spamming the timeline, contact the company and ask about paid advertising opportunities. | Feb 16 00:32 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Australia: The Rudd-Gillard coup as told through US embassy informants http://t.co/GkJ6YB9u | Feb 16 01:00 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] What would you do if all but 5% of your income was permanently taken from you by corrupt banks? It happened to us. http://t.co/kOzFcpO0 | Feb 16 01:14 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] I'm hanging at the Duke of Wellington in Waterloo ON for !Ubuntu Hour :) | Feb 16 01:14 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] EU commision discusses tactical retreat on ACTA | EDRI http://t.co/K2KCiwAA | Feb 16 01:20 | |
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tacone1 | hi | Feb 16 01:21 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Project Meshnet http://goo.gl/jwfns #freedomtools | Feb 16 01:22 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Remember - this is the same Microsoft that asks in Europe for better FRAND licensing of essential patents. They want t... http://b1t.it/aQmi | Feb 16 01:25 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @jwildeboer Remember - this is the same Microsoft that asks in Europe for better FRAND licensing of essential patents. They want t... ... | Feb 16 01:29 | |
schestowitz | hi tacone1 | Feb 16 01:30 |
schestowitz | seen your post the other day, pasted here | Feb 16 01:30 |
tacone1 | which ? | Feb 16 01:31 |
tacone1 | ahahah | Feb 16 01:31 |
tacone1 | i just posted another similar one :) | Feb 16 01:31 |
tacone1 | so funny | Feb 16 01:31 |
tacone1 | I'm not following Ubuntu and OS much these days, but when I do, I get my fair share of lols | Feb 16 01:32 |
schestowitz | the ubuntu mess is worrisome | Feb 16 01:33 |
schestowitz | buttons on the wrong side, unity confusion | Feb 16 01:33 |
schestowitz | thank goodness there's kde | Feb 16 01:33 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Now UNESCO has hijacked @UN to spread its nonsense. Hilarious. #OccupyUNESCO | Feb 16 01:34 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Tor's latest project helps #Iran get back online despite new Internet #censorship regime http://goo.gl/UNz59 | Feb 16 01:34 | |
tacone1 | i will consider kde for the next upgrades. i'm bothered with all this mess (well, i'm still on 10.10 btw) | Feb 16 01:34 |
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tacone1 | when I knew ubuntu will get back to rhythmbox I laughed hard | Feb 16 01:34 |
schestowitz | amarok is good | Feb 16 01:35 |
schestowitz | but heavy | Feb 16 01:35 |
schestowitz | I use minirok | Feb 16 01:35 |
tacone1 | rhythmbox does its job | Feb 16 01:35 |
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tacone1 | weird to know banshee still crashese. | Feb 16 01:36 |
tacone1 | it used to crashed years ago, i thought it was better now | Feb 16 01:36 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] help/faqs/DarknetPlan – reddit – Trac http://goo.gl/ybMxi #freedomtools | Feb 16 01:37 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] 300k Organic Farmers To Sue #Monsanto For Seed Patent Claims - Slashdot http://goo.gl/vQqYh #gmo | Feb 16 01:40 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks condena a la UNESCO por censurarle en una conferencia sobre el mismo portal | RT http://t.co/mRfD9UjI | Feb 16 01:40 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Unauthorized iOS Apps Leak Private Data Less Than Approved Ones - Slashdot http://goo.gl/JyEj2 #apple #mobile #privacy | Feb 16 01:44 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @Pascools Jammer dat het niet Vloanders werd geschreven. Dan was het nog enigszins correct in een dialect. | Feb 16 01:45 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @fdgraeve @hannesvdvreken @Tanfoglio_ ik spreek op vrijdag 9/3 om 10:30 in hall 7 op #cebit over mobiliteit | Feb 16 01:45 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @Tanfoglio_ @hannesvdvreken pak ontslag en ge krijgt een job van @Tuinslak #opgelost | Feb 16 01:45 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @Choisissez Nee ze, iRail als werkgever is de max. Zelf, ik herhaal, Zelf @netlash is niet de maxerder ;) (denk ik) | Feb 16 01:45 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @t1mdp @ruben_vanlent Het einde van mij? #amai | Feb 16 01:45 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @ruben_vanlent - Lag wellicht aan de wodak (voor pun → @rubenslabbinck) @t1mdp | Feb 16 01:45 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @hannesvdvreken @tuinslak vandaag alvast ferm getrimd. Glad als het boven 10 is ;) | Feb 16 01:45 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @greetd yes! ;) | Feb 16 01:45 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @MatHLa Gent in #firstworldcityproblems - Ik vind het feit dat die discussie wordt gevoerd eigenlijk schitterend | Feb 16 01:45 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @janseurinck: Veel meer dan een bedreiging, is het internet een opportuniteit voor muzikanten: http://t.co/ZuTyodrv | Feb 16 01:45 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @evyraes hoera! Ik zit daar morgen ook hele dag. | Feb 16 01:47 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @fdenkens @jimmycappaert Boe! Wij willen transparantie ;) | Feb 16 01:47 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @Joke De grens is net met een graad verhoogd, si http://t.co/YE4kwUz2 | Feb 16 01:47 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @fdgraeve op een sidetrack over mobiliteit geloof ik, nog geen details gekregen | Feb 16 01:47 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @jimmycappaert wij zijn trouwens eens met Olympus (Blue bike) gaan spreken - blue bikes en elektrische http://ur1. ... | Feb 16 01:47 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @Tuinslak: #zelfstandige https://t.co/qLwuQXZZ // cc @pietercolpaert ;) | Feb 16 01:47 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @ruben_vanlent Ik dacht al, amai die @t1mdp is stil vandaag (en gisteren). | Feb 16 01:47 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @fdgraeve mogen sprekers ook reageren op je tweet? Ik wil ook wel een Bratwurst. | Feb 16 01:47 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @jimmycappaert geen probleem, daarvoor dient de #iRail vzw. Sowieso wil ik nog integratie van villo API http://ur1. ... | Feb 16 01:47 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @Choisissez Pas op, straks neemt @netlash je aan en zit je 24/24 met je liefke opgescheept. @xavez | Feb 16 01:47 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Exploring The Simpsons in WikiLeaks Era with Al Jean http://t.co/XZzPlEgy | Feb 16 01:50 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] I just tested; it seems fine. | Feb 16 01:52 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Síria, a nova Líbia http://goo.gl/l7ku7 #syria #nato | Feb 16 01:54 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] In Features: #Assad's reform pledges since #Syria's uprising | AJ English http://t.co/chCLJzCf | Feb 16 02:00 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] I think it's working now. Came about due to a version mismatch between Sphinx server in Lucid and the available PHP Sphinx client. #PITA | Feb 16 02:02 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Clear Evidence Republican Party Committing Voter Fraud! | COLLAPSENET http://goo.gl/Vo2LB #usa #gop | Feb 16 02:04 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trmanco/@trmanco] trmanco: RT @autocorrects: The "Earth" without "Art" is just "EH". | Feb 16 02:05 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trmanco/@trmanco] trmanco: RT @ioerror: What the fuck is happening in Canada? Five years in jail for wearing a mask at the "wrong" time? | Feb 16 02:05 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #techrights log #boycottnovell log #boycottnovell-social log #techbytes log Enter the IRC channels now | Feb 16 02:09 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] RT @ #techrights log #boycottnovell log #boycottnovell-social log #techbytes log Enter the IRC channels now | Feb 16 02:09 | |
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scientes | 64 bytes from plug.local (192.168.0.3): icmp_seq=19 ttl=64 time=0.185 ms | Feb 16 02:13 |
scientes | 64 bytes from plug.local (192.168.0.3): icmp_seq=20 ttl=64 time=0.174 ms | Feb 16 02:13 |
scientes | 64 bytes from 3.pool.ntp.org (192.168.0.3): icmp_seq=21 ttl=64 time=0.154 ms | Feb 16 02:13 |
scientes | 64 bytes from 3.pool.ntp.org (192.168.0.3): icmp_seq=22 ttl=64 time=0.160 ms | Feb 16 02:13 |
scientes | WTF | Feb 16 02:13 |
XFaCE | looks like a time server | Feb 16 02:14 |
scientes | thats my server | Feb 16 02:14 |
scientes | why is it reverse resolving to pool.ntp.org? | Feb 16 02:14 |
XFaCE | ntp = national time protocol | Feb 16 02:14 |
scientes | and on my local net (192.168.0.3) | Feb 16 02:14 |
scientes | actually its "network time protocol" | Feb 16 02:15 |
XFaCE | yeah | Feb 16 02:15 |
XFaCE | realized my mistake :p | Feb 16 02:15 |
XFaCE | I'm sick today :( | Feb 16 02:15 |
scientes | but i didn't sign up to be on the pool, and that is a non-routed address | Feb 16 02:15 |
scientes | wtf is going on? | Feb 16 02:15 |
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oiaohm | scientes: there are two possiblity | Feb 16 02:16 |
oiaohm | You dns server has gone nuts. | Feb 16 02:16 |
scientes | also, it just switched randomly | Feb 16 02:16 |
oiaohm | or you have ipv6 tunneling. | Feb 16 02:16 |
scientes | no ipv6 tunneling | Feb 16 02:16 |
scientes | so shitty at&t router? | Feb 16 02:16 |
oiaohm | I mean the Linux box | Feb 16 02:16 |
oiaohm | is ipv6 tunneling | Feb 16 02:16 |
scientes | there is no ipv6 setup at all as far as i know on this network | Feb 16 02:17 |
oiaohm | 6to4 on the Linux machine generate this evil. | Feb 16 02:17 |
scientes | that was soooo wirerd | Feb 16 02:17 |
scientes | I loged in, and then i couldn't type anything on the terminal | Feb 16 02:18 |
oiaohm | Open up wireshark and look at 192.168.0.3 | Feb 16 02:18 |
scientes | and then ping didn't work, and then started working, and then i got that | Feb 16 02:18 |
oiaohm | Or equal network monitoring. | Feb 16 02:18 |
oiaohm | Something that can view ipv6 traffic. | Feb 16 02:18 |
scientes | and then i rebooted the computer in question, and now i am in----with ip address, (not .local) | Feb 16 02:18 |
scientes | i did install avahi-dnsconfd | Feb 16 02:18 |
oiaohm | You might be seeing soemthing really screw wiff | Feb 16 02:18 |
scientes | could that be it? | Feb 16 02:18 |
scientes | on the server i was trying to ping | Feb 16 02:18 |
scientes | shit im gett the same fooy after rebooting | Feb 16 02:19 |
oiaohm | Really presume IPv6 is on until network traffic monitor tells you different. scientes | Feb 16 02:19 |
scientes | i try to type into the logged in ssh session and ssh: connect to host 192.168.0.3 port 22: Connection refused | Feb 16 02:19 |
scientes | $ ssh root@192.168.0.3 | Feb 16 02:19 |
scientes | ssh: connect to host 192.168.0.3 port 22: Connection refused | Feb 16 02:19 |
scientes | buwait | Feb 16 02:19 |
scientes | $ ssh root@192.168.0.3 | Feb 16 02:19 |
scientes | Linux plug 3.3.0-rc3-tomoyo #2 PREEMPT Thu Feb 9 12:50:30 PST 2012 armv5tel | Feb 16 02:20 |
scientes | Last login: Tue Feb 14 20:40:53 2012 from 192.168.0.5 | Feb 16 02:20 |
scientes | plug:~# Write failed: Broken pipe | Feb 16 02:20 |
scientes | and then after that the coputer seems to disappear, crash | Feb 16 02:20 |
oiaohm | I hate remote debuging | Feb 16 02:21 |
oiaohm | with these problems. | Feb 16 02:21 |
scientes | http+fastcgi works fine | Feb 16 02:21 |
scientes | without me loggin in via ssh | Feb 16 02:22 |
oiaohm | scientes: really you do have to find out what in heck is going on. | Feb 16 02:22 |
scientes | hmm this time logging in worked.... | Feb 16 02:22 |
scientes | nope, after a few seconds of working, crash | Feb 16 02:22 |
scientes | whole computer erks | Feb 16 02:22 |
scientes | yuck, i get like a minute on the console befere another reboot | Feb 16 02:24 |
scientes | guess i have to hook up a serial console | Feb 16 02:24 |
oiaohm | Installing avahi-dnsconfd can bring in ipv6 | Feb 16 02:25 |
oiaohm | And if ipv6 set up strange the complete system developers very strange and out there messaging. | Feb 16 02:25 |
oiaohm | This is why you must presume ipv6 is on until proven otherwise. | Feb 16 02:25 |
scientes | I have dhclient eth0 in my rc.local | Feb 16 02:25 |
oiaohm | You are forgeting ipv6 can tunnel over ipv4 | Feb 16 02:26 |
Diablo-D3 | scientes: wtf dude | Feb 16 02:26 |
Diablo-D3 | learn to /etc/network/interfaces | Feb 16 02:26 |
scientes | yeah i have that too, but i was like meh | Feb 16 02:26 |
Diablo-D3 | you're bringing up network too late to boot your box | Feb 16 02:26 |
oiaohm | So as long as you have a ipv4 connection you can have ipv6 traffic coming in. | Feb 16 02:26 |
scientes | cause it actually set up with the kernel even before that | Feb 16 02:26 |
scientes | i pass ip=dhcp to the kernel | Feb 16 02:27 |
oiaohm | O boy. | Feb 16 02:29 |
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scientes | o wow, i think it is watchdog | Feb 16 02:31 |
scientes | its just repeatedly rebooting itsself | Feb 16 02:31 |
scientes | I installed avahi-dnsconfd cause i was looking for .local resolution, that probably isn't waht that package does | Feb 16 02:37 |
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scientes | it appears that startx without any display device attached is what was doing it | Feb 16 02:42 |
scientes | which seems really bad | Feb 16 02:43 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] "It's a snap!" http://ur1.ca/8718x Just read this to the kids. Strangely moving for people who design products. #kodak #productdesign | Feb 16 02:44 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Candidate words for Buzzword Bingo - http://ur1.ca/871gu #fb | Feb 16 02:45 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] [$] LWN.net Weekly Edition for February 16, 2012 http://ur1.ca/871ic | Feb 16 02:49 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @marcusweiland: Max Strotmann representing @SiimKallasEU emphasized importance of #opendata at #ITTRANS http://p.ost.im/p/e97STs | Feb 16 02:50 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: soon 90% of jobs will need digital literacy. But 1 in 4 have never used Internet. http:/ http://p.ost.im/p/e9PA4s | Feb 16 02:50 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @epsiplatform: UK public consultation on Open Standards. Have your say! #opendata #openstandards http:// http://p.ost.im/p/e9GfJE | Feb 16 02:50 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: EC Pdt Barroso wrote to all member states y'day calling for "digital champions" across t http://p.ost.im/p/e9fLKb | Feb 16 02:50 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: Welcome this decision in UK http://t.co/FDgBzCNz = consumers benefit from lower call pri http://p.ost.im/p/e9PARD | Feb 16 02:50 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: Every member state should have a digital champion like @marthalanefox http://t.co/4bjfwj http://p.ost.im/p/e9n7QJ | Feb 16 02:50 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Mozilla to CAs: fix it or we’ll drop you http://ur1.ca/871l3 | Feb 16 02:52 | |
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scientes | ^^^^^^^^ooo good article | Feb 16 02:54 |
scientes | companies are using bogus but CA-signed certificates to MITM employees | Feb 16 02:54 |
scientes | maybe DNSSEC-included certificates can solve this mess | Feb 16 02:57 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trmanco/@trmanco] trmanco: @JamieMitchell37 You love me, shut it :P | Feb 16 03:02 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trmanco/@trmanco] trmanco: RT @EricDSnider: I like that birth control is a political issue this year because it means the year is 1964 an http://ur1.ca/871s5 | Feb 16 03:02 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trmanco/@trmanco] trmanco: @JamieMitchell37 Bitch :P | Feb 16 03:02 | |
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scientes | http://www.micro-sdxc.com/img/micro-SDXC-2TB.jpg | Feb 16 03:19 |
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scientes | wonder how much that costs | Feb 16 03:19 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] You mean at once? You can post to either one now, then "switch account" to post to the other. | Feb 16 03:20 | |
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oiaohm | scientes: DNSSEC only says the DNS is signed. | Feb 16 03:22 |
oiaohm | scientes: besides it always been possible to block all traffic you CA set cannot open. | Feb 16 03:22 |
oiaohm | scientes: so anyone wishing to use your network has to use your CA or stuffed. | Feb 16 03:23 |
oiaohm | scientes: this is far more truthful about I am watching you. | Feb 16 03:23 |
scientes | oiaohm, what I mean is that DNSSEC supports putting the certificates in the records | Feb 16 03:23 |
scientes | cause it is signed that works | Feb 16 03:23 |
oiaohm | And what stops me man in middle the DNS | Feb 16 03:24 |
scientes | however, if there IS a signed certificate in DNSSEC, will then other certificates, even _if_ signed by a trusted CA, then not work? | Feb 16 03:24 |
scientes | that is what I am asking | Feb 16 03:24 |
scientes | oiaohm, cause its DNSSEC | Feb 16 03:24 |
scientes | so you can't MITM it | Feb 16 03:24 |
scientes | thats the whole damn point of DNSSEC | Feb 16 03:24 |
oiaohm | You can if you have a approved CA | Feb 16 03:24 |
oiaohm | So it looks signed correctly. | Feb 16 03:25 |
scientes | however the CAs are delegted the same as DNS | Feb 16 03:25 |
scientes | so there isn't as much overlap | Feb 16 03:25 |
scientes | like the way there is with CA certificate trust areas | Feb 16 03:25 |
scientes | im not saying it is perfect, but that would fix alot of the problems with CA overlap | Feb 16 03:26 |
scientes | it also of course gives more power to the DNSSEC CA holders | Feb 16 03:26 |
oiaohm | The theory of DNSSEC is that the DNS and CA will be independant. | Feb 16 03:29 |
oiaohm | So a breach on one will not straight up breach the other. | Feb 16 03:29 |
scientes | WUT | Feb 16 03:30 |
scientes | I don't think that is "the theory" | Feb 16 03:30 |
oiaohm | Man in middle when you have control of the DNS | Feb 16 03:30 |
oiaohm | And control of the CA | Feb 16 03:30 |
oiaohm | Yes all bets are off. | Feb 16 03:30 |
scientes | I guess that is reasonable | Feb 16 03:30 |
oiaohm | This why mozilla is so pissed over this. | Feb 16 03:31 |
oiaohm | If those keys leaks they can cause major secuirty problems. | Feb 16 03:31 |
scientes | They certainyl should be! | Feb 16 03:31 |
oiaohm | If you are monitoring a work network you really should tell your staff that you are. | Feb 16 03:32 |
scientes | however, couldn't you get rid of one RT by putting the certificate in DNSSEC | Feb 16 03:32 |
scientes | ??? | Feb 16 03:32 |
scientes | I guess you could still have it signed by another CA | Feb 16 03:32 |
scientes | but it still seems like you should put your public key in DNS | Feb 16 03:32 |
scientes | (if it is signed) | Feb 16 03:33 |
oiaohm | DNSSEC cross references with the CA approved key. | Feb 16 03:33 |
oiaohm | The reason is to detect defect. | Feb 16 03:33 |
oiaohm | So as long as attacker don't get both they don't get you basically. | Feb 16 03:33 |
oiaohm | Man in middle telling everyone does not need to breach the CA. | Feb 16 03:34 |
oiaohm | Basically the internal network just refuses to allow out anything it cannot decrypt. | Feb 16 03:34 |
oiaohm | So if you want to use the network you have to install the networks CA key. | Feb 16 03:35 |
oiaohm | So its very up front about it. | Feb 16 03:35 |
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oiaohm | Basically these guys making man in the middle devices have been wanting todo it without anyone knowing. scientes | Feb 16 03:37 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Your latest #humour column is a hoot @larryrusswurm "What if Average Height Keeps Increasing?" http://ur1.ca/871vw | Feb 16 03:39 | |
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scientes | <oiaohm> Basically the internal network just refuses to allow out anything it cannot decrypt. | Feb 16 03:40 |
scientes | eek | Feb 16 03:40 |
scientes | <oiaohm> Basically these guys making man in the middle devices have been wanting todo it without anyone knowing. scientes | Feb 16 03:40 |
scientes | of course | Feb 16 03:40 |
scientes | but do some companies actually force MITM? | Feb 16 03:40 |
scientes | that would be horrible | Feb 16 03:41 |
oiaohm | You have to in some cases. | Feb 16 03:41 |
oiaohm | When the information contained is life or death. | Feb 16 03:41 |
oiaohm | Anything leaking out that should not is basically killing people. | Feb 16 03:42 |
oiaohm | But there is no reason to keep it secret. | Feb 16 03:42 |
oiaohm | Ie you will be encrypted from here to the proxy using our internal CA and from the CA to the outside world using the external CAs. | Feb 16 03:43 |
oiaohm | So yes you are watched. | Feb 16 03:43 |
scientes | hmm | Feb 16 03:44 |
scientes | on another topic: is NOR sufficiently durable? | Feb 16 03:44 |
scientes | https://www.globalscaletechnologies.com/t-d2plugdetails.aspx | Feb 16 03:44 |
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oiaohm | scientes: some of the places getting the MITM stuff has been Egypt and China | Feb 16 03:44 |
scientes | the supported way is to boot from SD using ext2load | Feb 16 03:44 |
oiaohm | Yes countries where you just might disappear never to be seen again. | Feb 16 03:45 |
scientes | but I of ofcourse see that as too much reliance on the SD and would rather put the kernel directly on that very spacious 16 Mb NOR flash | Feb 16 03:45 |
oiaohm | Its not funny what these rogue CA have been upto. | Feb 16 03:45 |
scientes | if you compress the kernel with lzma is going down to <2.5 mb | Feb 16 03:45 |
scientes | 2.9mb for gzip compression, 2.2 for lzma | Feb 16 03:46 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] @nj3ma What were you doing on #Formspring???? | Feb 16 03:54 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] Installing ZTE modem software on #fedora 14 has fucked up my network manager .... thanks a bunch #ZTE fu! | Feb 16 03:55 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] you have to tell me where to subscribe... i'm talking to you on your identica account here :) | Feb 16 03:59 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Subscribed! | Feb 16 04:12 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] #lstench now you need to load an avatar :) | Feb 16 04:12 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] #2012: Ron Paul won Maine, GOP is trying to cover it up including refusing to count votes http://identi.ca/url/66665769 | Feb 16 04:22 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trmanco/@trmanco] trmanco: @twishaawishaa Go do your homework :P | Feb 16 04:29 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] #2012: Ron Paul will be Republican nominee for President http://identi.ca/url/66666077 | Feb 16 04:29 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] Hate Cambridge. Waiting at red light with @mpatoska | Feb 16 05:22 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] Word to the wise, Setting up the #ZTE MF192 @OrangeKenya 21Mbps HSPA+ modem on #linux is a pain in the *ss! | Feb 16 05:22 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] Back in Boston. Tasty Burger time. | Feb 16 05:22 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] Lord, please forgive me for what I am about to torrent ... | Feb 16 05:37 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Seems online font conversion sites don't support !Ubuntu so I'm lucky @grant_lovell was at #UbuntuHour to convert ttf to oft !InconstantMoon | Feb 16 05:42 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] :) | Feb 16 05:45 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @vlax @eebrah ok, lets pray: Glory to the seed, and to the leeching and to the Holly #p2p #Amen :D :X | Feb 16 05:50 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] WTF? Took this mug of coffee without sugar and only noticed on the last gulp? What is happening to me? | Feb 16 05:54 | |
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abeNd-org | I prefer http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ebirah instead | Feb 16 05:57 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Under-pressure newspapers 'deserve tax breaks' http://goo.gl/ELB07 aka we need govt hand outs to keep spreading bullshit | Feb 16 06:09 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @caparsons "The bill includes no mention of children or predators except in the short title of it." http://ur1.ca/874rp #C30 !privacy | Feb 16 06:12 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rdr @dragosr Wearing a Guy Fawkes mask could get you 5 years in jail in !Canada, under new proposed bill C-309 http://ur1.ca/874ut !CDNpoli | Feb 16 06:20 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @laurelrusswurm rdr @dragosr Wearing a Guy Fawkes mask could get you 5 years in jail in !Canada, under new proposed bill C-309 http:/ ... | Feb 16 06:22 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Bill C-308 "Preventing Persons from Concealing Their Identity during Riots and Unlawful Assemblies Act" http://ur1.ca/874x0 | Feb 16 06:24 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @ioerror What the fuck is happening in! Canada ? Five years in jail for wearing a mask at the "wrong" time? http://ur1.ca/874x0 | Feb 16 06:24 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @eqe Man I sure am glad I've never installed Flash. #ohfuckmyandroidcamewithmalware http://ur1.ca/874zm !privacy #security | Feb 16 06:30 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] good morning @bavatar !tzag | Feb 16 06:32 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] You can do anything you like. Personal blogs can covers 3-4 things (or more) because we all have more than 1 interest. | Feb 16 06:39 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Will read it ASAP! http://ur1.ca/875nr | Feb 16 07:14 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !tzaf and good night !identiverse | Feb 16 07:17 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @laurelrusswurm !tzaf and good night !identiverse | Feb 16 07:22 | |
DaemonFC | http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2400340,00.asp | Feb 16 07:27 |
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DaemonFC | damn vfat | Feb 16 07:48 |
DaemonFC | I forgot to turn on "Enforce vfat-safe names" in Amarok and it saved a bunch of filenames with characters that vfat doesn't understand | Feb 16 07:48 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Primele 9 camioane cu lemne de la Casa Regală în drum spre Ialomița http://ur1.ca/876cv #ialomita #romania #rege | Feb 16 08:04 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @ibhuiyan Install & Run !Ubuntu OS On Your !Android Device Using !Ubuntu Installer #App http://goo.gl/bJkgw | Feb 16 08:04 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @ #techrights log #boycottnovell log #boycottnovell-social log #techbytes log Enter the IRC channels now | Feb 16 08:04 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @osamak It's absurd to see that many people suddenly defending the integrity of Saudi judiciary when it comes to #HamzaKashgari. | Feb 16 08:07 | |
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oiaohm | http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2012/02/police-download-a-file-go-to-jail-for-10-years-and-pay-an-unlimited-fine.ars Here comes the sledge | Feb 16 08:08 |
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DaemonFC | one MILLION dollars! | Feb 16 08:09 |
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DaemonFC | oiaohm: refresh my memory | Feb 16 08:15 |
DaemonFC | are ampersands allowed in vfat? | Feb 16 08:15 |
oiaohm | DaemonFC: cannot remember | Feb 16 08:18 |
oiaohm | DaemonFC: there are too many strange rules to vfat | Feb 16 08:19 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #KillBill is class - jus' sayin' | Feb 16 08:20 | |
DaemonFC | http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/02/precise-adds-user-safeguards-to-compiz-app/ | Feb 16 08:33 |
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DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJhw8Tk7BeU | Feb 16 08:34 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #SUSE Serves Microsoft Decades After Microsoft Broke the Law Against Novell http://ur1.ca/876zr | Feb 16 08:35 | |
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DaemonFC | AT&T caps service at 150 GB per month | Feb 16 08:44 |
DaemonFC | suggests customers monitor their usage (ironically hosted on a site with a lot of very large images and flash applets) | Feb 16 08:45 |
DaemonFC | then makes sure the site is down half the time so you can't see where you are | Feb 16 08:45 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Head of #Mozilla Says #ACTA Is 'A Bad Way To Develop Internet Policy' - http://bit.ly/xOLCd6 heed the lizard wrangler | Feb 16 08:47 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Trusting Microsoft-friendly Companies When It Comes to GPL Trending http://ur1.ca/8778f #gpl #blackduck | Feb 16 08:47 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] On the Decline of the #GPL - http://bit.ly/yaOgZD useful thoughts #opensource | Feb 16 08:49 | |
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DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer | Feb 16 08:52 |
DaemonFC | Someone signed me up for "Tea Party Action Alerts". They sound more like Klan Rally 2.0. I forwarded them to their service provider's abuse address and tweaked my bogofilter to hopefully flag and delete them. | Feb 16 08:52 |
DaemonFC | Signing me up for Tea Party alerts is like signing up a Jew for Stormtrooper Magazine. | Feb 16 08:52 |
DaemonFC | Like · · 2 seconds ago · | Feb 16 08:52 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] What is #Copyright For? - http://onforb.es/xIR1CZ good point: (c) as "regulation of commercial exploitation", not regulation of copying | Feb 16 08:52 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] http://ur1.ca/877jo | Feb 16 08:55 | |
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DaemonFC | schestowitz: My dad laughed when he asked me what I thought of the Tea Party | Feb 16 08:56 |
DaemonFC | and I told him I thought they were like the brown shirts of the Republican Party | Feb 16 08:56 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] EU tar sands vote set for 23 February - http://bit.ly/xVCN2m lobbyists will be getting excited #tarsands #energy | Feb 16 08:57 | |
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DaemonFC | the Tea Party supports border on the definition of domestic terrorists | Feb 16 08:58 |
DaemonFC | you see everything from 9/11 truthers, to birthers, to radical anti-abortion groups that say it's wrong to murder and then blow up women's clinics | Feb 16 08:58 |
DaemonFC | no other country in the world would tolerate this | Feb 16 08:59 |
schestowitz | [08:56] <DaemonFC> and I told him I thought they were like the brown shirts of the Republican Party | Feb 16 09:00 |
schestowitz | Yeah, seems so | Feb 16 09:00 |
schestowitz | DaemonFC: abortions caused 9/11, OF COURSE !! | Feb 16 09:00 |
DaemonFC | they got mad after the DHS released one of their sensistive but unclassified reports concerning the possibility of former US Army soldiers being courted by far right wing extremists | Feb 16 09:00 |
Diablo-D3 | DUDE | Feb 16 09:00 |
DaemonFC | mad because it was "profiling" | Feb 16 09:00 |
Diablo-D3 | _BAGELS_ CAUSED 9/11 | Feb 16 09:00 |
Diablo-D3 | NOT "JEWS DID 9/11" | Feb 16 09:00 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Post updated to include new link from @glyjnmoody http://ur1.ca/8778f #gpl | Feb 16 09:00 | |
Diablo-D3 | BUT THE BAGELS | Feb 16 09:00 |
DaemonFC | well, Timothy McVeigh fit that description | Feb 16 09:00 |
schestowitz | well, DUH | Feb 16 09:00 |
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Diablo-D3 | ALL 27 KINDS OF THEM | Feb 16 09:00 |
schestowitz | bagels or jews? | Feb 16 09:01 |
Diablo-D3 | ITS A CONSPIRACY THAT OUR BREAD MAKING OVERLORDS DONT WANT US TO KNOW | Feb 16 09:01 |
schestowitz | it's a conspiracy of "Elites" | Feb 16 09:01 |
*Diablo-D3 is trying so hard to keep a straight face | Feb 16 09:01 | |
schestowitz | with bagels! | Feb 16 09:01 |
Diablo-D3 | nope not happening | Feb 16 09:01 |
*Diablo-D3 cracks up | Feb 16 09:01 | |
schestowitz | Diablo-D3: why did you dad Felta ask that? | Feb 16 09:02 |
schestowitz | did he think of joining? | Feb 16 09:02 |
Diablo-D3 | tabfail? | Feb 16 09:02 |
schestowitz | it's led and funded by the likes of Koch Brothers | Feb 16 09:02 |
DaemonFC | no, just a thing that came up | Feb 16 09:02 |
Diablo-D3 | DaemonFC is that way | Feb 16 09:02 |
DaemonFC | I don't advocate killing people as a means of political change | Feb 16 09:03 |
schestowitz | autocomplete fail | Feb 16 09:03 |
schestowitz | DaemonFC: sometimes it's the last resort | Feb 16 09:03 |
DaemonFC | a lot of the tea partiers are doing things like calling on people to kill the president | Feb 16 09:03 |
schestowitz | history suggests so | Feb 16 09:03 |
schestowitz | not that I'd advocate it | Feb 16 09:03 |
Diablo-D3 | better to work for the devil you know? | Feb 16 09:03 |
schestowitz | just sayin' | Feb 16 09:03 |
schestowitz | people think that to claim this is to advocate murder | Feb 16 09:03 |
schestowitz | but I keep hearing from people, armed revolution is sometimes the only effective one | Feb 16 09:04 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #webOS governance model announced, more open than #Android - http://bit.ly/xxQPKN good move | Feb 16 09:04 | |
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DaemonFC | I noticed that Texas alone is responsible for over two thirds of all executions done in the United States now | Feb 16 09:04 |
DaemonFC | but they don't seem to have any respect for due process | Feb 16 09:04 |
DaemonFC | so I won't go to Texas for any reason | Feb 16 09:05 |
schestowitz | big beef burgers? | Feb 16 09:05 |
schestowitz | and the coronary is free | Feb 16 09:05 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] 300k farmers hope for lawsuit against #Monsanto - http://bit.ly/wGPnQb lots at stake here #gm #patents | Feb 16 09:05 | |
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DaemonFC | by the time most of the states actually carry out an execution, the process has gotten so far along that there is no longer any doubt about what the guy did | Feb 16 09:05 |
DaemonFC | or if he actually did it | Feb 16 09:05 |
DaemonFC | Texas doesn't seem to care | Feb 16 09:06 |
DaemonFC | they just round anyone up to put on death row | Feb 16 09:06 |
schestowitz | well, it's hard to state your case when you are dust | Feb 16 09:06 |
DaemonFC | the police there especially like to target the mentally ill and mentally retarded | Feb 16 09:06 |
DaemonFC | to coach them into a confession for something they may not have done | Feb 16 09:06 |
schestowitz | DaemonFC: but you once advocated death penalties, no? | Feb 16 09:06 |
DaemonFC | I do | Feb 16 09:06 |
schestowitz | it was you taking that side of the argument when we were against | Feb 16 09:06 |
DaemonFC | but the process in Texas is wrong | Feb 16 09:07 |
schestowitz | they should not execute of jail | Feb 16 09:07 |
schestowitz | there are worse things than that | Feb 16 09:07 |
schestowitz | and more beneficial for remedy | Feb 16 09:07 |
schestowitz | like foxconn 18 hours a day | Feb 16 09:07 |
DaemonFC | if any state, in the last 20 years, has killed people who were actually not guilty, I'm sure it is Texas | Feb 16 09:07 |
oiaohm | Really I see death penalities and Jail as wrong. | Feb 16 09:08 |
schestowitz | it's, a very religious state | Feb 16 09:08 |
schestowitz | maybe they try to fast-track a journey to Hell | Feb 16 09:08 |
oiaohm | Problem is with Jail we have to pay there roof over their head. | Feb 16 09:08 |
schestowitz | realising that their penal system is heaven in comparison | Feb 16 09:08 |
oiaohm | Death penalities no matter what you do the wrong person sooner or latter will be killed. | Feb 16 09:09 |
schestowitz | !google Norway oslo mayor respect | Feb 16 09:09 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - An un-American response to the Oslo attack - Norway - Salon.com | http://www.salon.com/2011/07/28/norway_4/ | Feb 16 09:09 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Sunday Saying by the Mayor of Oslo, Norway | Janet Oberholtzer | http://www.janetober.com/2011/07/24/sunday-saying-by-the-mayor-of-oslo-norway/ | Feb 16 09:09 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Mushin » Oslo | http://bbneves.com/tag/oslo/ | Feb 16 09:09 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - “If one man can show this much hate, think how... - Lapidarium | http://amiquote.tumblr.com/post/8016132504/if-one-man-can-show-this-much-hate-think-how | Feb 16 09:09 |
oiaohm | We cannot reverse death. | Feb 16 09:09 |
DaemonFC | yeah, the kind of security you have to keep someone like that under to make sure they never escape, and to protect other prisoners from them | Feb 16 09:09 |
DaemonFC | expensive | Feb 16 09:09 |
schestowitz | oiaohm: the argument is deterrence-based | Feb 16 09:09 |
DaemonFC | lethal injection costs a small fraction of that | Feb 16 09:09 |
schestowitz | that, for example, others won't do it for fear of the retribution | Feb 16 09:09 |
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DaemonFC | I agree that there should be a death penalty | Feb 16 09:10 |
oiaohm | DaemonFC: Using them as a expermined for cryo storage would have a bigger deterint. | Feb 16 09:10 |
DaemonFC | I also think that extreme caution should be used in applying it | Feb 16 09:10 |
oiaohm | Who wants to wake up stuffed. | Feb 16 09:10 |
DaemonFC | schestowitz: an example of a case where I think the guy should have gotten the death sentence.... | Feb 16 09:11 |
oiaohm | Yes I am a mean bastard this way. If we are doing something close to death penalty is should be research secience. | Feb 16 09:11 |
DaemonFC | about 15 years ago, there was a guy in the city of Marion, which is near where I lived at that time | Feb 16 09:11 |
DaemonFC | he was going through a divorce and decided to kill his wife at the courthouse | Feb 16 09:11 |
MinceR | oiaohm: Ice Prison! | Feb 16 09:11 |
DaemonFC | so in plain daylight, he shot her repeatedly | Feb 16 09:12 |
DaemonFC | in front of many witnesses | Feb 16 09:12 |
DaemonFC | there was no doubt what he did | Feb 16 09:12 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Israel dreht Palästinensern den Solarstrom ab - http://bit.ly/yqZEt0 collective punishment much? #cowards | Feb 16 09:12 | |
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DaemonFC | I think he not only should have been sentenced to death, but that it should have been fast tracked | Feb 16 09:12 |
DaemonFC | he's still in prison for it | Feb 16 09:12 |
MinceR | "aw shit, they let anybody into this century!" | Feb 16 09:12 |
oiaohm | Killing him will not bring her back. | Feb 16 09:13 |
MinceR | geekings | Feb 16 09:13 |
DaemonFC | right, that's no reason to show him mercy | Feb 16 09:13 |
DaemonFC | he never even once showed remorse for what he did | Feb 16 09:13 |
oiaohm | DaemonFC: mind you focing him to clear land mines until he makes a mistake at least he doing something useful before he goes bang. | Feb 16 09:13 |
DaemonFC | I mean, this case is such clear cut death sentence material | Feb 16 09:14 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Goldman’s Settlement With ‘Mini Madoff’ Receiver Approved http://goo.gl/wQ6x8 #GoldmanSachs is mega-madoff, got bailout, not jail | Feb 16 09:14 | |
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oiaohm | DaemonFC: is this person not now expendanble. | Feb 16 09:14 |
DaemonFC | I think so | Feb 16 09:14 |
oiaohm | DaemonFC: they have killed. | Feb 16 09:14 |
oiaohm | So they should be used to prevent other people from being killed | Feb 16 09:14 |
DaemonFC | if you're going to give him a sentence lighter than death it should be a life sentence of hard labor | Feb 16 09:14 |
oiaohm | Like clearing mine fields | Feb 16 09:14 |
oiaohm | Ie high risk job | Feb 16 09:15 |
iophk | http://www.popehat.com/2011/12/21/good-americans-dont-criticize-the-tsa-only-a-commie-would-do-that/ | Feb 16 09:15 |
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oiaohm | If god sees it fit to kill him so be it. | Feb 16 09:15 |
oiaohm | We do not have to be a murder ourselves basically DaemonFC | Feb 16 09:15 |
oiaohm | There is more than one way to get rid of them. Lets make use of them. | Feb 16 09:16 |
DaemonFC | keeping someone like that alive with the possibility of being paroled makes the surviving family of his victim(s) live every day in fear that the state might release him | Feb 16 09:16 |
MinceR | what if they escape? | Feb 16 09:16 |
schestowitz | iophk: how true | Feb 16 09:16 |
DaemonFC | or that he might escape | Feb 16 09:16 |
schestowitz | in border control you can't speak your mind | Feb 16 09:16 |
DaemonFC | thanks MinceR | Feb 16 09:16 |
MinceR | np | Feb 16 09:16 |
schestowitz | it'll flag you a potential "terrorist", must be docile and quiet | Feb 16 09:16 |
MinceR | i pay in cash some of the time, so i'm a potential terrorist | Feb 16 09:17 |
oiaohm | If you remove restriction on medical that can be used against these criminals. | Feb 16 09:17 |
MinceR | according to the fbi | Feb 16 09:17 |
oiaohm | There is nothing stoping them from being fitted with a reverse pace maker. | Feb 16 09:17 |
DaemonFC | MinceR: I usually use my debit card, just because I don't like pockets full of change | Feb 16 09:17 |
oiaohm | Run away die | Feb 16 09:17 |
MinceR | also, i have a cloak on freenode, so, again, i'm a potential terrorist according to fbi | Feb 16 09:17 |
DaemonFC | and going someone to turn it all back into cash now and then | Feb 16 09:17 |
DaemonFC | or possibly losing it | Feb 16 09:18 |
oiaohm | You don't need much secuirty if they need something from you to stay alive. | Feb 16 09:18 |
MinceR | DaemonFC: the fbi doesn't care | Feb 16 09:18 |
DaemonFC | and because I have a decent cash back system on my debit card | Feb 16 09:18 |
MinceR | good citizens don't use cash | Feb 16 09:18 |
DaemonFC | I'm not buying fertilizer and hydrogen peroxide and putting it in a rental truck | Feb 16 09:18 |
DaemonFC | I don't care if they know I went to Taco Bell | Feb 16 09:18 |
oiaohm | DaemonFC: remember what you said I am not out to kill them. | Feb 16 09:19 |
MinceR | you will, once they use the knowledge that you regularly eat at taco bell to arrest/kidnap you there | Feb 16 09:19 |
oiaohm | DaemonFC: but nothing prevent you from setting it up that they will kill themselves if they run away. | Feb 16 09:19 |
DaemonFC | as opposed to at my home? | Feb 16 09:19 |
DaemonFC | if I pay for everything in cash, they still know where I live | Feb 16 09:20 |
oiaohm | DaemonFC: Ie you never killed the person. They were informed of the limits and choose to take there own life. | Feb 16 09:20 |
MinceR | they might not know the layout and defenses of your home as well as those of a taco bell :> | Feb 16 09:20 |
DaemonFC | true | Feb 16 09:20 |
oiaohm | DaemonFC: and MinceR if you want to take really evil we are really short of organ transplant parts. | Feb 16 09:21 |
oiaohm | So they get a battery operated heart instead. | Feb 16 09:21 |
MinceR | :> | Feb 16 09:21 |
MinceR | sure, but who will pay to feed them afterwards? | Feb 16 09:21 |
MinceR | and to replace the battery? | Feb 16 09:21 |
oiaohm | MinceR: they have to if they want to live | Feb 16 09:22 |
DaemonFC | I think we could all use an upgrade | Feb 16 09:22 |
DaemonFC | http://www.plasticbag.org/images/extra/cybermen_on_bbc.jpg | Feb 16 09:22 |
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oiaohm | MinceR: I have no interest in paying for the jail time. | Feb 16 09:22 |
oiaohm | MinceR: or there food or there mantaince. | Feb 16 09:22 |
oiaohm | MinceR: if they choose to take there own life that is not my problem. | Feb 16 09:22 |
MinceR | DaemonFC: they come with handles on the head for easy carrying! | Feb 16 09:23 |
MinceR | oiaohm: and again, there's still the issue of keeping them captive to prevent them form harming people. | Feb 16 09:23 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] A Look at the http://ur1.ca/2kb12 Members Choice Awards Winners http://goo.gl/6zVm4 #linux #gnu | Feb 16 09:24 | |
oiaohm | MinceR: computer controlled hart. | Feb 16 09:24 |
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MinceR | also, not killing them but taking their heart still has the issue of what if the courts were wrong. (same issue as with death penalty) | Feb 16 09:24 |
oiaohm | Go out of range die. | Feb 16 09:24 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Feb 16 09:24 |
MinceR | oiaohm: could be cracked. | Feb 16 09:24 |
oiaohm | True anotheer reason why they would kind want to stay away from populated areas. | Feb 16 09:24 |
DaemonFC | these CD-Rs I got have a good deal of space for overburning | Feb 16 09:25 |
oiaohm | Particularly if the population already knows how disable it. | Feb 16 09:25 |
DaemonFC | I managed to write a 719 MB ISO on one earlier | Feb 16 09:25 |
MinceR | oiaohm: what if the population or one of the criminal's contacts know how to disable the killswitch? | Feb 16 09:26 |
oiaohm | MinceR: remember you can have two predefined freq. | Feb 16 09:26 |
oiaohm | MinceR: one keeps them alive | Feb 16 09:26 |
oiaohm | MinceR: one kills them. | Feb 16 09:26 |
DaemonFC | Kubuntu dropped Kopete and a bunch of fluff and put in KDE Telepathy | Feb 16 09:26 |
DaemonFC | their daily live ISO went from 739 MB to 708 | Feb 16 09:26 |
DaemonFC | so it's within reason to figure you could get away with overburn now | Feb 16 09:26 |
MinceR | somebody still uses cd-s? :> | Feb 16 09:27 |
oiaohm | MinceR: robot hard emp will kill them anyhow. | Feb 16 09:27 |
MinceR | oiaohm: unless they add emp shielding. | Feb 16 09:27 |
DaemonFC | really I think they should decide whether fitting on a CD is more important than shipping the full enchilada | Feb 16 09:27 |
DaemonFC | they could make a live ISO of kde-full and not use an entire 4 GB single layer DVD | Feb 16 09:27 |
oiaohm | MinceR: what means they most likely will not be small any more. | Feb 16 09:27 |
schestowitz | [09:26] <DaemonFC> Kubuntu dropped Kopete and a bunch of fluff and put in KDE Telepathy | Feb 16 09:28 |
MinceR | oiaohm: or get a real heart transplant from someone via illicit means. | Feb 16 09:28 |
schestowitz | Kubuntu is not needed anymore | Feb 16 09:28 |
schestowitz | I use debian with KDE | Feb 16 09:28 |
schestowitz | But in my department we standardise on Ubuntu | Feb 16 09:28 |
schestowitz | both servers and desktops | Feb 16 09:28 |
schestowitz | Only ubuntu | Feb 16 09:28 |
MinceR | ew | Feb 16 09:28 |
schestowitz | to make life easier (more consistent) to win-oriented admins | Feb 16 09:28 |
MinceR | do you also standardize on unity? :> | Feb 16 09:28 |
schestowitz | they set me up a new kubuntu box right now | Feb 16 09:28 |
schestowitz | I asked for debian, they insisted on *buntu | Feb 16 09:29 |
schestowitz | Last night I went through the long application process for a new position in Oxford University(stating immediately) that matches my past RA appointments in cardiac imaging | Feb 16 09:29 |
MinceR | what are winblows-oriented admins doing in a gnu/linux-oriented environment? get some competent admins. :> | Feb 16 09:29 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Red Hat scoffs at VMware's open cloud claims http://goo.gl/gZmKA #redhat #gnu #linux | Feb 16 09:29 | |
schestowitz | Maybe I'll just relocate | Feb 16 09:29 |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Red Hat scoffs at VMware's open cloud claims | ZDNet .::. Size~: 105.85 KB | Feb 16 09:29 |
iophk | Schestowitz: Debian would be better on the servers. | Feb 16 09:29 |
schestowitz | yes, exactly | Feb 16 09:29 |
DaemonFC | yeah, binary compatibility with Ubuntu | Feb 16 09:29 |
schestowitz | there was a mess upgradign ubuntu | Feb 16 09:29 |
oiaohm | MinceR: even getting a transplant. Can be hard if you cannot disarm the implant. | Feb 16 09:29 |
schestowitz | with /oldhome/ as partition | Feb 16 09:29 |
iophk | Longer release cycle, more granular modularity. | Feb 16 09:29 |
schestowitz | for like days | Feb 16 09:29 |
DaemonFC | without the god awful Unity shell | Feb 16 09:29 |
schestowitz | until this morning, they finally put my homedir back in /home/ | Feb 16 09:29 |
DaemonFC | it's a reasonable compromise to make | Feb 16 09:29 |
MinceR | oiaohm: you only need to keep it at bay temporarily, then. | Feb 16 09:29 |
schestowitz | so I could run my scripts again | Feb 16 09:29 |
schestowitz | imagine, taking a week to upgrade a server. In Debian it's a lot smoother | Feb 16 09:30 |
oiaohm | MinceR: not really. | Feb 16 09:30 |
MinceR | so for example you can defend against EMP by locating the operating room in a Faraday cage. | Feb 16 09:30 |
schestowitz | they even needed people to reset passowrds to merely upgrade the server | Feb 16 09:30 |
iophk | In Debian, it's usually minutes for the base system. | Feb 16 09:30 |
MinceR | also no issue with populated areas. | Feb 16 09:30 |
oiaohm | MinceR: name a criminal who want to come near a another criminal who is a walking bug. | Feb 16 09:30 |
schestowitz | iophk: rolling? | Feb 16 09:30 |
MinceR | oiaohm: m$ upper management? :) | Feb 16 09:30 |
iophk | No. From one release to the next. | Feb 16 09:30 |
schestowitz | anyway, Oxford is very Linux-oriented | Feb 16 09:30 |
iophk | The customizations take longer. | Feb 16 09:31 |
schestowitz | I worked there for a while, it's Cambridge that's ill with the MS bug | Feb 16 09:31 |
iophk | Good on Oxford. | Feb 16 09:31 |
oiaohm | MinceR: even MS upper management does not like recording devices. | Feb 16 09:31 |
schestowitz | the opening there is 2-2.5 years | Feb 16 09:31 |
MinceR | they do, so long as the device isn't recording them :> | Feb 16 09:31 |
schestowitz | the one I'm on now is funded till 2015 (ERC) | Feb 16 09:31 |
oiaohm | MinceR: Case of always on. | Feb 16 09:31 |
iophk | I saw several universities in the 1990's that were using Red Hat in the student labs. | Feb 16 09:31 |
schestowitz | maybe fir research | Feb 16 09:32 |
schestowitz | wouldn'tbe good for common users | Feb 16 09:32 |
iophk | It's what happens when the IT people got to make the decisions. It has subesquently been replaced by M$ sales staff on site. | Feb 16 09:32 |
oiaohm | MinceR: basically its not hard to work out how to make a person in a place they cannot excape from. | Feb 16 09:32 |
schestowitz | and if they have centos on the computational servers it'll make sense | Feb 16 09:32 |
oiaohm | MinceR: if you remove all moral limit. | Feb 16 09:32 |
schestowitz | [09:31] <iophk> I saw several universities in the 1990's that were using Red Hat in the student labs. | Feb 16 09:32 |
schestowitz | CS in Manchester Uni uses Fedora | Feb 16 09:33 |
oiaohm | MinceR: to survalance devices and bio alteration. | Feb 16 09:33 |
schestowitz | as standard | Feb 16 09:33 |
schestowitz | there was a decision made around 8 years ago, I voted for SUSE | Feb 16 09:33 |
schestowitz | but Fedora Core won | Feb 16 09:33 |
oiaohm | MinceR: yes it would make them good research guine pigs. | Feb 16 09:33 |
MinceR | schestowitz: lucky :> | Feb 16 09:33 |
iophk | In retrospect, Fedora Core is the better choice. | Feb 16 09:33 |
oiaohm | MinceR: Like we are almost to the point of being able to read mind to hear what a person is hearing. | Feb 16 09:34 |
iophk | Back then M$ was on the way out. | Feb 16 09:34 |
oiaohm | MinceR: and in time see what a person is seeing. | Feb 16 09:34 |
schestowitz | I may need to move there, to accommodate the girlfriend, even though Oxford id ranked lower for research than where I am right now. Someone is checking for me in the US right now. | Feb 16 09:34 |
oiaohm | MinceR: that kind of tech makes removing the bug kinda evil. | Feb 16 09:34 |
schestowitz | MinceR: yeah | Feb 16 09:34 |
DaemonFC | http://www.qupzilla.com/ | Feb 16 09:35 |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: QupZilla - Lightweight multiplatform browser .::. Size~: 9.34 KB | Feb 16 09:35 |
MinceR | DaemonFC: it has "zilla" in its name, so it can't be good! :> | Feb 16 09:36 |
schestowitz | MinceR: I bet Orbans and his Nazi-esque party have already scared away Hungarian academics, who moved abroad (fled) | Feb 16 09:36 |
schestowitz | *Orban | Feb 16 09:36 |
schestowitz | Many flee the US too, I think | Feb 16 09:36 |
MinceR | schestowitz: it's ongoing | Feb 16 09:36 |
schestowitz | some seem to be filling positions in Asia, it's the new "hip" thing | Feb 16 09:36 |
schestowitz | Some days ago I heard of another one who flad, ended up in Florida | Feb 16 09:37 |
schestowitz | but they run out of money | Feb 16 09:37 |
schestowitz | In the UK too | Feb 16 09:37 |
schestowitz | when the students lose their budget from the govt. | Feb 16 09:37 |
MinceR | DaemonFC: yet another khtml-based browser? | Feb 16 09:37 |
schestowitz | and have to pay the whole tuition bil | Feb 16 09:37 |
schestowitz | *bill | Feb 16 09:37 |
schestowitz | [08:05] <schestowitz> > For interesting medical imaging work related to Medical Physics, you should | Feb 16 09:37 |
schestowitz | [08:05] <schestowitz> > check out Ann Arbor, Washington University, Washington State University, | Feb 16 09:37 |
schestowitz | [08:05] <schestowitz> > University of New Mexico and a few others. Unfortunately, all the state | Feb 16 09:38 |
schestowitz | [08:05] <schestowitz> > Universities have big budget problems right now and I would not know about PhD | Feb 16 09:38 |
schestowitz | [08:05] <schestowitz> > level work. A quick look through the Wayne State Medical Physics list turns | Feb 16 09:38 |
schestowitz | [08:05] <schestowitz> > up a big zero. | Feb 16 09:38 |
schestowitz | zero... land of the TSA | Feb 16 09:38 |
schestowitz | Well, at least the TSA is hiring !! | Feb 16 09:38 |
schestowitz | need MOAR cappo | Feb 16 09:38 |
oiaohm | schestowitz: think of it this way. | Feb 16 09:38 |
MinceR | need moar jackbooted thugs? | Feb 16 09:38 |
oiaohm | schestowitz: it could be worse you could be still stuck with windows only. | Feb 16 09:38 |
schestowitz | DaemonFC: [sarcasm] buy another gun, they're coming !!! http://www.apfn.org/apfn/camps.htm [/sarcasm] | Feb 16 09:39 |
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schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/90631999 | Feb 16 09:41 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @Bradley M. Kuhn (bkuhn)'s status on Wednesday, 15-Feb-12 17:31:21 UTC - Identi.ca: #ELC2012: #Corbet gives what's effectively an !FSF -style "Who's trusted in trusted computing?" lecture in his #UEFI portion of talk. | Feb 16 09:41 |
schestowitz | DaemonFC: your country is passing all it's high-technology knowledge to people who take it to the East | Feb 16 09:41 |
schestowitz | it's good for the universities in the short term | Feb 16 09:41 |
schestowitz | because they fill up positions this way and boost their rankings | Feb 16 09:42 |
DaemonFC | yeah, and if we stopped doing it, you'd complain | Feb 16 09:43 |
DaemonFC | screaming things about protectionism | Feb 16 09:43 |
schestowitz | It's not taking into account the long-term impact, where a nation's own intellectual powerhouses don't pass this knowledge to the next generation. It's like when IBM et al. send their engineers to Indian to train the employees who will later replace them (first announce layoffs, then wait a year, then announce hirings elsewhere) | Feb 16 09:43 |
DaemonFC | and nationalism | Feb 16 09:43 |
schestowitz | yeah | Feb 16 09:43 |
schestowitz | globalisation | Feb 16 09:43 |
schestowitz | BTW, Intel does this too (in India) | Feb 16 09:43 |
DaemonFC | I don't buy Intel | Feb 16 09:44 |
schestowitz | One day, as profits declines, they'll say, "no problema" | Feb 16 09:44 |
schestowitz | They have trains substitutes | Feb 16 09:44 |
schestowitz | and all they have to do is just pull the rug from beneath the feet of the "expensive" staff | Feb 16 09:44 |
MinceR | well, they've got to prepare for the time when the usa destroys itself | Feb 16 09:44 |
MinceR | because "herp derp science is teh unholy" | Feb 16 09:45 |
schestowitz | No paycuts, just expenses cutting... removing staff and using those whom they paid to train, like Caterpillar (temporary employees caterpillar) | Feb 16 09:46 |
schestowitz | " | Feb 16 09:46 |
schestowitz | This method of bringing production and demand into line has been used by Caterpillar in the past, mostly recent in the summer of 2007 when it had two one-week shutdowns at its engine plant in Mossville. | Feb 16 09:46 |
schestowitz | Before that it had temporary shutdowns of its plants during the previous recession in the early part of this decade. | Feb 16 09:46 |
schestowitz | It was part of language the company and UAW negotiated in contracts, Doty said. "It's a way to keep the company competitive and able to manage their business while keeping our guys in their jobs. It's much preferable to wide-scale, indefinite layoffs." | Feb 16 09:46 |
schestowitz | " | Feb 16 09:46 |
schestowitz | http://www.pjstar.com/business/x1049860912/Temporary-layoffs-will-idle-some-Caterpillar-plants-in-East-Peoria | Feb 16 09:46 |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Caterpillar plans temporary plant shutdowns, layoffs - Peoria, IL - pjstar.com .::. Size~: 72.2 KB | Feb 16 09:47 |
schestowitz | DaemonFC's dad might understand.. | Feb 16 09:47 |
schestowitz | "The flexible workforce are those that do jobs at Caterpillar, ranging from clerical to material handling to maintenance to manufacturing, but are employed by vendors on a contractual basis. Contract employees are not included among the 112,000 employees Caterpillar has worldwide." | Feb 16 09:47 |
schestowitz | IIRC, this practice is illegal in some nations | Feb 16 09:47 |
schestowitz | I think CAT dodges it by offshoring the practice | Feb 16 09:47 |
schestowitz | e.g. to south Africa | Feb 16 09:47 |
schestowitz | "The decision to reduce its contract workers - which Caterpillar terms its "flexible workforce" - is part of the strategy and comes after each of the company's business units assessed the 2009 expectations." | Feb 16 09:48 |
schestowitz | Nope | Feb 16 09:48 |
schestowitz | is part of the strategy to reduce worker security | Feb 16 09:48 |
DaemonFC | he doesn't work for them anymore | Feb 16 09:48 |
schestowitz | more anxiety for the labour force | Feb 16 09:48 |
schestowitz | less anxiety for shareholders | Feb 16 09:48 |
DaemonFC | they called him a contractor while he was there | Feb 16 09:48 |
schestowitz | maybe the workers should put money in the pot and just buy the company they work for | Feb 16 09:48 |
DaemonFC | that way they don't owe you anything that's not in your contract | Feb 16 09:48 |
schestowitz | then they can make decision based on what's good for the company (workers) and not few investors and hedge funds at the top | Feb 16 09:49 |
schestowitz | DaemonFC: yup | Feb 16 09:49 |
schestowitz | typical | Feb 16 09:49 |
schestowitz | I was also contracted in one of my jobs until recently, the strikes and labour union worked to establish a law though | Feb 16 09:49 |
schestowitz | So they *had* to offer me permanent employment with many rights like benefits (not just pension) after 12 months of work | Feb 16 09:50 |
schestowitz | Many of those rights rode now | Feb 16 09:50 |
schestowitz | And citizens don't fcare | Feb 16 09:50 |
schestowitz | They never saw or remember how hard it was to take those rights and by hard strikes get them as "gifts" from the 1% | Feb 16 09:50 |
schestowitz | disgusting if you ask me... | Feb 16 09:50 |
schestowitz | Class war | Feb 16 09:51 |
DaemonFC | no, it's only class war when the rich are losing | Feb 16 09:51 |
DaemonFC | -Fox News | Feb 16 09:51 |
schestowitz | workers have to disrupt nations with massive strikes to get those things, which then get forgotten when people take them for granted | Feb 16 09:51 |
schestowitz | DaemonFC: yeah | Feb 16 09:51 |
schestowitz | they play against the obvious... "oh, you're just creating class war" | Feb 16 09:52 |
schestowitz | Fox: | Feb 16 09:52 |
schestowitz | blaming poor people | Feb 16 09:52 |
schestowitz | for the problems created by rich people | Feb 16 09:52 |
schestowitz | and inciting the middle class against those below | Feb 16 09:52 |
schestowitz | for the sake of "job creators" | Feb 16 09:52 |
schestowitz | DaemonFC: OMG the MEXICANS !!! | Feb 16 09:52 |
schestowitz | !google beck obama is a racist | Feb 16 09:53 |
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TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Glenn Beck: Newt Gingrich Supporters Who Oppose Obama Are ... | http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/10/glenn-beck-newt-gingrich-obama-race_n_1140920.html | Feb 16 09:53 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Fox's Beck: Obama is 'a racist' - - POLITICO.com | http://www.politico.com/blogs/michaelcalderone/0709/Foxs_Beck_Obama_is_a_racist.html | Feb 16 09:53 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Glenn Beck: Obama Is a Racist - CBS News | http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/07/29/politics/main5195604.shtml | Feb 16 09:53 |
DaemonFC | people already sacrifice way too much for employment in most cases | Feb 16 09:53 |
schestowitz | He reverses white guilt | Feb 16 09:53 |
schestowitz | "I see what you did there.." | Feb 16 09:53 |
DaemonFC | your employer gets to control your physical appearance, and even things you do and say when you're not at work | Feb 16 09:53 |
schestowitz | or off work | Feb 16 09:53 |
schestowitz | I got e-mails from Patent Troll Tracker this week | Feb 16 09:54 |
schestowitz | He became famous for running a blog anonymously | Feb 16 09:54 |
schestowitz | and got sued by the faher of p[atent trolling | Feb 16 09:54 |
schestowitz | They still harass him over it | Feb 16 09:54 |
schestowitz | I had to remove a few posts | Feb 16 09:54 |
schestowitz | chmod 000 | Feb 16 09:54 |
DaemonFC | there's nothing wrong with demanding anonymity to prevent reprisals from the state, your employer, etc. | Feb 16 09:54 |
schestowitz | and I told him, don't let them make your good research vanish | Feb 16 09:54 |
schestowitz | DaemonFC: I don't need to shave for work | Feb 16 09:55 |
schestowitz | cause I work at home | Feb 16 09:55 |
schestowitz | shower+shave+drive is part of work that's unpaid for | Feb 16 09:55 |
schestowitz | for some people that's well over an hour | Feb 16 09:55 |
schestowitz | for woman who keep up appearance with makeup it's a lot more | Feb 16 09:55 |
DaemonFC | yeah | Feb 16 09:55 |
schestowitz | maybe 3 hours | Feb 16 09:55 |
schestowitz | +9 hours at work | Feb 16 09:55 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Chinese Internet giant #Baidu is reportedly planning to expand into South America - http://tnw.co/xnHW0s potentially big; africa next? | Feb 16 09:55 | |
schestowitz | if not 12 | Feb 16 09:55 |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Baidu Reportedly Plans South America Expansion .::. Size~: 95.74 KB | Feb 16 09:55 |
schestowitz | and that's it, they got you by the balls | Feb 16 09:55 |
DaemonFC | then you have them telling you things like you have to shave, and you can't have tattoos or piercings | Feb 16 09:56 |
DaemonFC | and how your hair has to look | Feb 16 09:56 |
DaemonFC | and if you can wear a hat or not | Feb 16 09:56 |
MinceR | sometimes even that you have to wear a suit | Feb 16 09:56 |
schestowitz | The rest of the time you wash your clothes, eat, sleep to serve a tired body, maybe -- JUST MAYBE - find time for the gym | Feb 16 09:56 |
MinceR | (which is about as impractical as clothing goes) | Feb 16 09:56 |
DaemonFC | unless you can argue that not complying is due to your superstitious beliefs | Feb 16 09:56 |
schestowitz | No wonder many people end up obese, on anti-depressants... | Feb 16 09:56 |
schestowitz | [09:56] <MinceR> sometimes even that you have to wear a suit | Feb 16 09:57 |
schestowitz | programmers too? | Feb 16 09:57 |
schestowitz | not customer-facing | Feb 16 09:57 |
DaemonFC | you have a double standard where you can get special rights just by claiming you belong to a certain superstition | Feb 16 09:57 |
schestowitz | yeah | Feb 16 09:57 |
schestowitz | but,.. | Feb 16 09:58 |
DaemonFC | and that double standard is enshrined in law | Feb 16 09:58 |
schestowitz | not if you believe Elvis is alive | Feb 16 09:58 |
DaemonFC | and the employer can get in trouble by making cultists follow the same rules everyone else has to | Feb 16 09:58 |
MinceR | schestowitz: not usually necessary | Feb 16 09:58 |
schestowitz | Elvis is alive, to use Sam Harris' analogy, is not an official religion yet | Feb 16 09:58 |
schestowitz | Same for "Santa is real" | Feb 16 09:58 |
MinceR | not in any of my jobs, but the informational materials weren't too explicit | Feb 16 09:58 |
schestowitz | Scientology is also ridiculed out of legitimacy | Feb 16 09:58 |
MinceR | sadly, not out of tax breaks and tax money, though | Feb 16 09:59 |
schestowitz | Although their mythology is more probable than all those of monotheistic religions | Feb 16 09:59 |
schestowitz | DaemonFC: can a Scirentologist demand half an hour a day for prayed on a mattress? And if so, will that be frowned upon by $employer? | Feb 16 09:59 |
DaemonFC | "You have to shave and take off that hat" *Employee points to a Muslim employee of the same company* "But he gets to wear a long beard and that funny hat!" | Feb 16 09:59 |
MinceR | also, i'm not sure if they've managed to remove the spies of the clams from the usian government and the IRS yet | Feb 16 09:59 |
DaemonFC | Employer: "That's different!" | Feb 16 09:59 |
DaemonFC | oh, I see, in that case I'm whatever he is | Feb 16 10:00 |
DaemonFC | can't touch this | Feb 16 10:00 |
DaemonFC | stop | Feb 16 10:00 |
DaemonFC | hammer time | Feb 16 10:00 |
MinceR | lol | Feb 16 10:00 |
schestowitz | DaemonFC: Burger Kind tell you ti remove piercings | Feb 16 10:00 |
schestowitz | The reasoning is, it reduces higience in the kitchen | Feb 16 10:00 |
schestowitz | *hygiene | Feb 16 10:00 |
schestowitz | And people with an "official" beard \(not stubble) get away with it | Feb 16 10:01 |
schestowitz | If you're head-shaved, you still need to weara hat | Feb 16 10:01 |
schestowitz | aka "uniform" | Feb 16 10:01 |
DaemonFC | schestowitz: I had a beard at one point when I worked at a factory, it wasn't even really long | Feb 16 10:01 |
schestowitz | Rob a man his individuality (like the military does with trimmers), then it's easier to command | Feb 16 10:01 |
DaemonFC | supervisor came up one day and said if I wanted to keep my job I had to shave it off | Feb 16 10:01 |
DaemonFC | because it might get caught in a machine | Feb 16 10:01 |
schestowitz | at least he was polite LOL | Feb 16 10:02 |
DaemonFC | "What the hell do you think I'm going to do? Stick my face in the fucking thing!?" | Feb 16 10:02 |
DaemonFC | :) | Feb 16 10:02 |
schestowitz | "shave it or BE UNEMPLOYED!" | Feb 16 10:02 |
MinceR | such accidents can happen | Feb 16 10:02 |
schestowitz | The machines don't get a hardon for workers with a beard | Feb 16 10:02 |
MinceR | and then the employee could sue the employer | Feb 16 10:02 |
schestowitz | they want you clean-shaved | Feb 16 10:02 |
schestowitz | tell you employer | Feb 16 10:02 |
schestowitz | need I kiss those machines? | Feb 16 10:02 |
DaemonFC | MinceR: He could have handed me a beard waiver | Feb 16 10:02 |
DaemonFC | B-) | Feb 16 10:02 |
schestowitz | ebard waver = beaver? | Feb 16 10:03 |
schestowitz | *waiver | Feb 16 10:03 |
DaemonFC | Form F-10293-B /A | Feb 16 10:03 |
schestowitz | "Sir, I would like to have a beaver for my beard" | Feb 16 10:04 |
DaemonFC | Waiver of personal injury due to beard | Feb 16 10:04 |
DaemonFC | he's a politician, you know he has those | Feb 16 10:04 |
schestowitz | first they grow a beard... before you know it the factory will be FULL OF STALINS !!! | Feb 16 10:04 |
MinceR | having a beard turns you into stalin? | Feb 16 10:05 |
schestowitz | yes | Feb 16 10:05 |
schestowitz | it all starts there | Feb 16 10:05 |
schestowitz | first the music | Feb 16 10:05 |
schestowitz | MAnson | Feb 16 10:05 |
MinceR | how long does it have to be? | Feb 16 10:05 |
schestowitz | and then violent computer game | Feb 16 10:05 |
DaemonFC | Hungary still has that Stalin's Boots statue, paying homage to the Communist dictator who spontaneously combusted | Feb 16 10:05 |
schestowitz | and then French coat mafia-inspired Bowling in Columbine! | Feb 16 10:05 |
MinceR | oh noes, i'm at the violent computer game phase already | Feb 16 10:05 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Online #Copyright: EU Court of Justice Rules Out Private and Automatic #Censorship - http://bit.ly/x2hGZh great news #sabam | Feb 16 10:05 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Online Copyright: EU Court of Justice Rules Out Private and Automatic Censorship | La Quadrature du Net .::. Size~: 31.28 KB | Feb 16 10:05 |
MinceR | strangely enough, i play those games even when i don't have stubble | Feb 16 10:06 |
MinceR | must be a flaw in this theory of yours :> | Feb 16 10:06 |
DaemonFC | but I doubt it was because of his beard | Feb 16 10:06 |
MinceR | 110518 < DaemonFC> Hungary still has that Stalin's Boots statue, paying homage to the Communist dictator who spontaneously combusted | Feb 16 10:06 |
MinceR | that's nothing | Feb 16 10:06 |
schestowitz | there's this bunch of very old people (like 80) who think the youngsters turn to villains if they do stuff that old folks never did | Feb 16 10:06 |
MinceR | we still have a monument on the so-called "freedom square" that praises the russian "liberators" and their soldiers | Feb 16 10:06 |
schestowitz | "it all starts with LIBERALISM!!" | Feb 16 10:06 |
MinceR | not only did our fucking commie government (after the dictatorship supposedly ended) defend it using police force | Feb 16 10:07 |
DaemonFC | MinceR: You mean the peace delegation that brought guns to enforce the peace with | Feb 16 10:07 |
MinceR | but our current national socialist government hasn't torn it down either | Feb 16 10:07 |
DaemonFC | against Hungarian domestic terrorists | Feb 16 10:07 |
DaemonFC | B-) | Feb 16 10:07 |
MinceR | like i said, hungaristan is a fucking joke | Feb 16 10:07 |
schestowitz | MinceR: Kalashnikov sqr. | Feb 16 10:07 |
MinceR | then again, most of the nazis are former commies too | Feb 16 10:08 |
schestowitz | they rebranded | Feb 16 10:08 |
DaemonFC | MinceR: The central bank there is giving poor people wads of recycled cash to burn to stay warm now | Feb 16 10:08 |
schestowitz | like whitenet houston | Feb 16 10:08 |
DaemonFC | talk about contempt for the poor | Feb 16 10:08 |
schestowitz | *Whitney | Feb 16 10:08 |
MinceR | orban was a member of the youth organization of the commie party | Feb 16 10:08 |
MinceR | others were members of the party itself | Feb 16 10:08 |
MinceR | and then they make this frothing-at-the-mouth show of opposing the commies | Feb 16 10:09 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Civilized flamewar on licensing stuff here. As extended version of current twitter discussion. Keep it nice. Trolls keep out. #kthxbai | Feb 16 10:09 | |
MinceR | while being no different from them | Feb 16 10:09 |
schestowitz | politicians become stranger through opposition | Feb 16 10:09 |
schestowitz | they need to pretend to oppose somehting | Feb 16 10:09 |
schestowitz | even if one another | Feb 16 10:09 |
schestowitz | then they "stand up" for you | Feb 16 10:09 |
MinceR | DaemonFC: what, you think the hungarian government's going to care about poor people freezing to death? | Feb 16 10:09 |
schestowitz | and gain power | Feb 16 10:09 |
MinceR | DaemonFC: none of orban's friends are poor, so poor people don't matter | Feb 16 10:09 |
schestowitz | and find some "danger" like Nazis or some external enemies to "protect" you from | Feb 16 10:10 |
DaemonFC | MinceR: The money for them to burn for heat is the rich people's way of making fun of the poor people | Feb 16 10:10 |
schestowitz | Even if they themselves are no better than those "Nazis" | Feb 16 10:10 |
DaemonFC | "Oh you're cold? Here's some money that was starting to fade for you to burn, we were done with it." | Feb 16 10:10 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[torproject/@torproject] Not sure how to get started with #Tor? Check out the short user manual: https://www.torproject.org/dist/manual/short-user-manual_en.xhtml | Feb 16 10:10 | |
schestowitz | it probablyhas bad chremical in it | Feb 16 10:10 |
TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting application/xhtml+xml type | Feb 16 10:10 |
schestowitz | made in Germany with plastics and stuff | Feb 16 10:10 |
schestowitz | so the fumes will poison them | Feb 16 10:11 |
MinceR | one of the leading nazi politicians said "whoever doesn't have anything is worth that much" | Feb 16 10:11 |
schestowitz | and this way they'll get buried more quickly, problem solved | Feb 16 10:11 |
MinceR | even though he stole everything he had | Feb 16 10:11 |
DaemonFC | MinceR: You mean he earned it | Feb 16 10:11 |
DaemonFC | by creating jobs | Feb 16 10:11 |
DaemonFC | :D | Feb 16 10:11 |
schestowitz | blech | Feb 16 10:11 |
schestowitz | "creating jobs" | Feb 16 10:11 |
DaemonFC | GLORIOUS JOBS! | Feb 16 10:11 |
schestowitz | politicians, aka failed lawyers, claim to "Create" something | Feb 16 10:12 |
schestowitz | Someone makes a company | Feb 16 10:12 |
MinceR | DaemonFC: nope | Feb 16 10:12 |
schestowitz | and some charlatan claims credit for it | Feb 16 10:12 |
schestowitz | or | Feb 16 10:12 |
schestowitz | politicians takes taxpayers money, passes it to private company of a mate, claims to have crated jobs | Feb 16 10:12 |
DaemonFC | 40 million pages of legal code doesn't create anything except a clusterfuck that's impossible for any human being to keep track of | Feb 16 10:12 |
schestowitz | reality: he stole money from the public to help a mate make a franchise on the back of the people | Feb 16 10:12 |
DaemonFC | and that's why there is that much of it | Feb 16 10:12 |
DaemonFC | nobody is really sure what's legal | Feb 16 10:12 |
schestowitz | paying a wage to pay back for the robbery | Feb 16 10:12 |
schestowitz | while pocketing much of the profit (centralisation) | Feb 16 10:13 |
DaemonFC | it's basically impossible for anyone to say they've never broken a law where they could have ended up in jail for it if the circumstances had been just right | Feb 16 10:13 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Library Closure of Type .nu - http://bit.ly/zK4i36 great background & analysis of library.nu takedown #ebooks #piracy | Feb 16 10:14 | |
DaemonFC | there's so many legal encumbrances on us now that it's impossible for anyone to say that with certainty | Feb 16 10:14 |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Library Closure of Type .nu « kNOw Future Inc. .::. Size~: 54.94 KB | Feb 16 10:14 |
schestowitz | "all hail slackware :) " https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1303595 | Feb 16 10:14 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Feb 16 10:14 |
schestowitz | DaemonFC: we need simplified laws | Feb 16 10:14 |
schestowitz | for people to be able to sign or petition on | Feb 16 10:15 |
DaemonFC | schestowitz: That used MP3 sale court case was...encouraging | Feb 16 10:15 |
schestowitz | like "Don't be a dick" | Feb 16 10:15 |
DaemonFC | but I expect that a higher court will overturn it | Feb 16 10:15 |
schestowitz | Not some 215-section document | Feb 16 10:15 |
DaemonFC | because the last thing Apple wants is for it to be legal to sell your rights to music you bought from their store | Feb 16 10:15 |
DaemonFC | 200+ years of legal precedent be damned | Feb 16 10:15 |
DaemonFC | Apple might lose sales | Feb 16 10:16 |
DaemonFC | something must be done! | Feb 16 10:16 |
schestowitz | iophk: http://mrpogson.com/2012/02/15/shocking-news-about-public-key-encryption/ | Feb 16 10:16 |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Shocking News About Public-Key Encryption at Robert Pogson .::. Size~: 34.04 KB | Feb 16 10:16 |
schestowitz | The law serves corporation | Feb 16 10:17 |
schestowitz | when the law does not, then it's broken | Feb 16 10:17 |
schestowitz | so it gets amended :-) | Feb 16 10:17 |
DaemonFC | I don't know why people use Mozilla Sync | Feb 16 10:18 |
DaemonFC | copy your profile onto a thumb drive now and then | Feb 16 10:18 |
DaemonFC | if it gets stuffed, delete it and restore the backed up profile | Feb 16 10:18 |
MinceR | i keep my profile on my laptop :> | Feb 16 10:18 |
DaemonFC | nothing ever needs to be stored on a remote server waiting for them to be served with an order to hand it over | Feb 16 10:19 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] It can’t be! – The tablet hit with consumers! http://ur1.ca/879io... http://b1t.it/aQx0 | Feb 16 10:19 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: ur1 Generator .::. Size~: 2.26 KB | Feb 16 10:19 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Feb 16 10:19 |
DaemonFC | the way US federal law is now, the FBI can go and make Mozilla or Google hand over all your data | Feb 16 10:20 |
DaemonFC | with no court order | Feb 16 10:20 |
DaemonFC | and it's illegal for them to tell anyone it ever happened | Feb 16 10:20 |
DaemonFC | if you insist on using Chrome's remote profile backups, you should change it to "encrypt everything" and to use a password that is not attached to your Google account | Feb 16 10:21 |
schestowitz | blech. Google. | Feb 16 10:22 |
DaemonFC | if you use your Google password, then the feds can force Google to decrypt everything right there | Feb 16 10:22 |
schestowitz | see, kde and mozilla are too small to harvest data | Feb 16 10:22 |
schestowitz | they won't expand in that direction | Feb 16 10:22 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Freedom Doesn't Have Any Lobbyists http://ur1.ca/879kj #freedom | Feb 16 10:22 | |
DaemonFC | and then they know your bookmarks, history, everything you've downloaded | Feb 16 10:22 |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Simon Phipps: Freedom Doesn't Have Any Lobbyists | Muktware .::. Size~: 40.66 KB | Feb 16 10:22 |
DaemonFC | what extensions you have | Feb 16 10:22 |
DaemonFC | all your preferences for the extensions | Feb 16 10:22 |
schestowitz | apple, ms, goog and others have businesses around profiling | Feb 16 10:22 |
DaemonFC | and all your site passwords | Feb 16 10:22 |
schestowitz | mozilla might as well just channel all log data to /dev.null/ | Feb 16 10:23 |
schestowitz | */ | Feb 16 10:23 |
DaemonFC | schestowitz: Jacob Appelbaum's Linuxconf AU keynote was a good one | Feb 16 10:23 |
DaemonFC | I liked what he said about metadata | Feb 16 10:23 |
DaemonFC | any one piece may not give the person looking at it any valuable information about you | Feb 16 10:24 |
DaemonFC | but the more they have, the more of a story it starts telling them about you | Feb 16 10:24 |
schestowitz | yeah | Feb 16 10:24 |
schestowitz | like medical conditions, thoughts, ideas | Feb 16 10:24 |
schestowitz | even problems you have with your computer | Feb 16 10:25 |
DaemonFC | Google and Facebook have gotten data mining down to a science | Feb 16 10:25 |
schestowitz | error messages | Feb 16 10:25 |
schestowitz | yeah | Feb 16 10:25 |
schestowitz | they bought companies that specialise in it | Feb 16 10:25 |
schestowitz | the product is the user | Feb 16 10:25 |
DaemonFC | if you use either one for a reasonable amount of time, your entire life story starts coming together for them to read | Feb 16 10:25 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Taste KDE 4.8 Goodies With Chakra Archimedes! http://ur1.ca/879lm #kde | Feb 16 10:25 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Taste KDE 4.8 Goodies With Chakra Archimedes! | Muktware .::. Size~: 31.95 KB | Feb 16 10:25 |
DaemonFC | right, Facebook, Google, Bing, Yahoo.....etc. | Feb 16 10:26 |
DaemonFC | none of them are really free | Feb 16 10:26 |
DaemonFC | you're paying them with your personal information | Feb 16 10:26 |
DaemonFC | they sift through it, use it to target you with advertising | Feb 16 10:26 |
DaemonFC | and then it sits there waiting for the government to become interested in it | Feb 16 10:27 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Every EU country needs a Digital Champion! http://ur1.ca/879nq #eu | Feb 16 10:27 | |
DaemonFC | schestowitz: I use Google Talk, but I make sure all my contacts have OTR | Feb 16 10:27 |
schestowitz | DaemonFC: that's a side effect | Feb 16 10:27 |
DaemonFC | and that the shared secret isn't discussed over Google | Feb 16 10:28 |
schestowitz | OTR? | Feb 16 10:28 |
schestowitz | skype is just as bad | Feb 16 10:28 |
schestowitz | and MS now has people's address books | Feb 16 10:28 |
TechrightsBot-tr | Error processing the URL | Feb 16 10:28 |
DaemonFC | http://www.cypherpunks.ca/otr/ | Feb 16 10:28 |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Off-the-Record Messaging .::. Size~: 14.63 KB | Feb 16 10:28 |
schestowitz | to complement the data Facebookberg passes them | Feb 16 10:28 |
schestowitz | Facebookberg will integrate with MSkype | Feb 16 10:28 |
DaemonFC | you can use OTR over Facebook chat too, since it has nothing to do with the protocol you're using | Feb 16 10:29 |
schestowitz | !google creepy zuckerberg 10 seconds | Feb 16 10:29 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Way to be creepy, Zuckerberg | walls of the city | http://www.wallsofthecity.net/2011/08/way-to-be-creepy-zuckerberg.html | Feb 16 10:29 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - IRC: #boycottnovell-social @ FreeNode: January 19th, 2012 | http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/irc-log-social-19012012.html | Feb 16 10:29 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Broadcast Yourself. - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/all_comments%3Fv%3DrgfFoZ8tq5w%26page%3D2 | Feb 16 10:29 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Zuckerberg! The REAL Social Network Movie | Babelgum | http://www.babelgum.com/6002714/zuckerberg-the-real-social-network-movie.html | Feb 16 10:29 |
DaemonFC | you just have to use a client that supports OTR on both ends | Feb 16 10:29 |
DaemonFC | but Facebook has their web chat thingy pop up while you're browsing their site, and it reflects whatever you're doing with an XMPP client like Kopete or Pidgin at the moment | Feb 16 10:30 |
DaemonFC | so isntead of plain human readable messages, you get the encrypted chatter popping up in that box | Feb 16 10:30 |
DaemonFC | :) | Feb 16 10:30 |
DaemonFC | schestowitz: There's an OTR plug-in for the Windows versions of Windows Live Messenger and Yahoo Messenger | Feb 16 10:31 |
DaemonFC | but since they interact with a proprietary client, you can't trust them | Feb 16 10:31 |
DaemonFC | if you use OTR you should make sure that the person you're speaking to is using a free software instant messenger | Feb 16 10:32 |
DaemonFC | otherwise the messenger software itself could start leaking your conversation data to whoever placed a back door into it | Feb 16 10:32 |
DaemonFC | but to you and your contact it would look like nothing was wrong | Feb 16 10:32 |
DaemonFC | it's more than likely that Windows Live Messenger and Yahoo and AIM have backdoors in the official client software itself | Feb 16 10:33 |
DaemonFC | and it's safe to assume that their chat server is logging all the traffic that goes through it even if you're not using their official software | Feb 16 10:33 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[torproject/@torproject] Obfsproxy: the next step in the censorship arms race - https://blog.torproject.org/blog/obfsproxy-next-step-censorship-arms-race | Feb 16 10:34 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Obfsproxy: the next step in the censorship arms race | The Tor Blog .::. Size~: 22.83 KB | Feb 16 10:34 |
schestowitz | DaemonFC: indeed | Feb 16 10:34 |
schestowitz | same for other means of voice communication | Feb 16 10:34 |
schestowitz | in the UK at least | Feb 16 10:34 |
schestowitz | I just always assume that face to face is the only private communication I have | Feb 16 10:35 |
schestowitz | or PGP-encrypted mail | Feb 16 10:35 |
schestowitz | in the US they can now open snail mail envelopes | Feb 16 10:35 |
schestowitz | anthrax LOL | Feb 16 10:35 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Is Copyright Enforcement Hopeless? http://ur1.ca/879qv #drm | Feb 16 10:35 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Is Copyright Enforcement Hopeless? | Mother Jones .::. Size~: 89.63 KB | Feb 16 10:35 |
DaemonFC | schestowitz: encryption might even give you some legal protection even if the government manages to break it | Feb 16 10:36 |
DaemonFC | by using it, you're obviously taking measures to communicate privately | Feb 16 10:36 |
schestowitz | ObamaBush must LOVE anthrax | Feb 16 10:36 |
DaemonFC | and courts sometimes hold that to a higher standard | Feb 16 10:36 |
schestowitz | yeah | Feb 16 10:36 |
schestowitz | but | Feb 16 10:36 |
schestowitz | !google judge forces encrypted laptop | Feb 16 10:36 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Ramona Fricosu Is Ordered By Judge To Decrypt Laptop In Bank ... | http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/25/ramona-fricosu-laptop_n_1230829.html | Feb 16 10:36 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - In re Boucher - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_re_Boucher | Feb 16 10:36 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Fed. Judge to Decide if Gov't Can Force Defendant to Unlock ... | http://www.sodahead.com/living/fed-judge-to-decide-if-govt-can-force-defendant-to-unlock-encrypted-laptop/question-2415521/ | Feb 16 10:36 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Judge: Fifth Amendment doesn't protect encrypted hard drives | http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2012/01/judge-fifth-amendment-doesnt-protect-encrypted-hard-drives.ars | Feb 16 10:36 |
DaemonFC | schestowitz: The correct response to that is that you can't remember the password | Feb 16 10:37 |
schestowitz | There's an implicit supposition here | Feb 16 10:37 |
schestowitz | that is: | Feb 16 10:37 |
DaemonFC | the court can't order you to do somethjing you can't do | Feb 16 10:37 |
schestowitz | governments are always just | Feb 16 10:37 |
schestowitz | People of a nation are always potential enemy | Feb 16 10:37 |
DaemonFC | and they can't probve whether you know it or not | Feb 16 10:37 |
schestowitz | but never the opposite | Feb 16 10:37 |
schestowitz | like a state taken over by neo-Nazis and people fighting to cleanse politics | Feb 16 10:38 |
DaemonFC | the government gets away with a lot of things that it shouldn't because they bluff and nobody calls them on it | Feb 16 10:38 |
DaemonFC | because they're too afraid to demand their rights | Feb 16 10:38 |
schestowitz | people at schools are usually just taught success stories of civics | Feb 16 10:38 |
schestowitz | not Mugabe or whatever | Feb 16 10:38 |
schestowitz | DaemonFC: | Feb 16 10:39 |
DaemonFC | if they can get you to waive your rights, then your rights can no longer protect you | Feb 16 10:39 |
schestowitz | !google boot on their neck michael moore | Feb 16 10:39 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Occupy America: Michael Moore Gets to the Heart of the Matter ... | http://fremontwatch.wordpress.com/2011/10/15/occupy-america-michael-moore-gets-to-the-heart-of-the-matter-working-people-want-the-boot-off-of-their-necks/ | Feb 16 10:39 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Michael Moore on Student Debt: 'The Boot on Your Neck' - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DM16NjL6Ja2Q | Feb 16 10:39 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Michael Moore on Student Debt: 'The Boot on Your Neck' - Video ... | http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xm7yjo_michael-moore-on-student-debt-the-boot-on-your-neck_news | Feb 16 10:39 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Michael Moore: US founded on genocide and slaves | Campaign ... | http://campaign2012.washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/beltway-confidential/michael-moore-us-founded-genocide-and-slaves/326171 | Feb 16 10:39 |
DaemonFC | so the first thing they do, before anything else, is try to trick you into waiving your rights | Feb 16 10:39 |
DaemonFC | then they try to get a confession | Feb 16 10:39 |
DaemonFC | When dealing with the police, it's better to assume that everything they're saying to you could be a lie | Feb 16 10:40 |
schestowitz | or | Feb 16 10:40 |
DaemonFC | don't answer any questions they ask that you're not legally obligated to answer | Feb 16 10:40 |
schestowitz | that they'll lie about what happened | Feb 16 10:40 |
schestowitz | I pasted somwthing about that yesterday | Feb 16 10:40 |
DaemonFC | they'll try to manipulate you | Feb 16 10:41 |
DaemonFC | whatever they do, don't talk to them | Feb 16 10:41 |
DaemonFC | schestowitz: Indiana has a stop and identify law | Feb 16 10:41 |
schestowitz | yeah | Feb 16 10:41 |
schestowitz | exploiting ignorance of the law | Feb 16 10:42 |
schestowitz | the usual loophole | Feb 16 10:42 |
DaemonFC | you can be arrested for refusing to identify yourself to a police officer | Feb 16 10:42 |
DaemonFC | so identify yourself | Feb 16 10:42 |
schestowitz | "you have two guns, not one" | Feb 16 10:42 |
DaemonFC | then don't say anything more | Feb 16 10:42 |
schestowitz | to ensure there's no chance one is hidden | Feb 16 10:42 |
DaemonFC | Indiana also assumes that any detention is voluntary | Feb 16 10:42 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Ubuntu and ‘unity’ in the same headline, but guess what? http://goo.gl/Wui24 #ubuntu | Feb 16 10:42 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #SABAM vs Netlog - another important ruling for fundamental rights - http://bit.ly/AqhK6L excellent, detailed analysis (v @Adv007) #ACTA | Feb 16 10:42 | |
schestowitz | fabrication | Feb 16 10:42 |
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DaemonFC | until you ask if you can leave | Feb 16 10:42 |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: SABAM vs Netlog - another important ruling for fundamental rights | EDRI .::. Size~: 13.79 KB | Feb 16 10:42 |
DaemonFC | so the first chance you get, ask them if you're free to leave | Feb 16 10:42 |
schestowitz | and don't say your name | Feb 16 10:43 |
schestowitz | find theirs | Feb 16 10:43 |
schestowitz | on the badge | Feb 16 10:43 |
DaemonFC | at that point, they either arrest you or let you go | Feb 16 10:43 |
DaemonFC | if they don't have cause to arrest you, they try to keep you there "voluntarily" | Feb 16 10:43 |
DaemonFC | it's not their problem if you don't know you can ask to leave | Feb 16 10:43 |
schestowitz | but usually they stop people who, unlike you, don't know their rights | Feb 16 10:44 |
schestowitz | and then get gamed | Feb 16 10:44 |
DaemonFC | they want to keep you under this "voluntary" detention long enough to go fishing and find a reason to arrest you | Feb 16 10:44 |
DaemonFC | schestowitz: There's a lot of information out there about how to properly handle police encounters | Feb 16 10:45 |
schestowitz | Ubuntu vs. Vista 7 on the business desktop | IT PRO Reviews | Feb 16 10:45 |
DaemonFC | including a very good speech on Youtube from a constitutional law professor | Feb 16 10:45 |
schestowitz | LOL | Feb 16 10:45 |
schestowitz | business | Feb 16 10:45 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Ubuntu vs. Windows 7 on the business desktop http://ur1.ca/879zc #linux | Feb 16 10:45 | |
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schestowitz | DaemonFC: yes, they can fish or make stuff up | Feb 16 10:45 |
schestowitz | moreover, others can make stuff up about you | Feb 16 10:46 |
DaemonFC | schestowitz: I was out walking one night, several years ago. | Feb 16 10:46 |
schestowitz | parents, kids, spouse, colleague | Feb 16 10:46 |
schestowitz | so they can go collecting for something that's a mere suspicion | Feb 16 10:46 |
DaemonFC | I lived about a block from Walmart and I was bored, so I decided I'd walk over there and walk around for a while and browse the store. | Feb 16 10:46 |
DaemonFC | it was a warm night out, good weather for a walk | Feb 16 10:46 |
schestowitz | I was always advice, stay away from police in general | Feb 16 10:46 |
schestowitz | not to even exist on their system | Feb 16 10:46 |
schestowitz | either as a witness or anything else... | Feb 16 10:46 |
DaemonFC | a police cruiser flips on the lights and pulls over to the sidewalk | Feb 16 10:46 |
schestowitz | They do searches on people's names | Feb 16 10:47 |
schestowitz | even family members of theirs | Feb 16 10:47 |
DaemonFC | the cop asked me what I was doing and where I was going | Feb 16 10:47 |
DaemonFC | I told her I was just out for a walk | Feb 16 10:47 |
schestowitz | and if one participates in a protest and gets recognised, they can get a record (red flag) | Feb 16 10:47 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Obfsproxy: the next step in the #censorship arms race - http://bit.ly/zvQDhj "change how #Tor traffic looks to nw"; cool (v @birgittaj) | Feb 16 10:47 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Obfsproxy: the next step in the censorship arms race | The Tor Blog .::. Size~: 22.83 KB | Feb 16 10:47 |
DaemonFC | she asked to see my ID (Indiana law says this is mandatory), so I complied | Feb 16 10:47 |
schestowitz | DaemonFC: just out, eh? | Feb 16 10:47 |
schestowitz | For a "walk" | Feb 16 10:47 |
DaemonFC | yeah | Feb 16 10:47 |
schestowitz | Like a terrorist would :-) | Feb 16 10:47 |
DaemonFC | she runs my license | Feb 16 10:48 |
schestowitz | Terrorists usually walk before they blow stuff up, even themselves | Feb 16 10:48 |
DaemonFC | obviously there's no warrants out on me or whatever, so she starts asking me a bunch of questions | Feb 16 10:48 |
schestowitz | "Are you terrorist?" | Feb 16 10:48 |
schestowitz | A: no | Feb 16 10:48 |
schestowitz | "That's what a terrorist would say" | Feb 16 10:48 |
DaemonFC | I said something like "Officer, I have already told you what I am doing and I have identified myself in accordance with state law. Am I free to go now or am I being detained?" | Feb 16 10:48 |
DaemonFC | she stopped and looked at me for a moment | Feb 16 10:49 |
DaemonFC | and then said "Yeah, go on, leave. Have a nice night" | Feb 16 10:49 |
DaemonFC | :) | Feb 16 10:49 |
schestowitz | hehe | Feb 16 10:49 |
DaemonFC | they'll sit there and let you tell them your life story | Feb 16 10:50 |
DaemonFC | you look suspicious to them, so they'll sit there and listen | Feb 16 10:50 |
DaemonFC | maybe pick up some nuggets that lead them to something "useful" | Feb 16 10:50 |
schestowitz | they look for easy numbers | Feb 16 10:50 |
schestowitz | people they can put in reports | Feb 16 10:50 |
schestowitz | to show delivery | Feb 16 10:50 |
schestowitz | like number of arrests | Feb 16 10:50 |
schestowitz | and when you know the law they realise you're no buyer, so to speak | Feb 16 10:51 |
schestowitz | like a time waster at a store or restaurant | Feb 16 10:51 |
schestowitz | so they move on | Feb 16 10:51 |
schestowitz | I only once was asked for identification by a policeman, like 12 years ago | Feb 16 10:51 |
DaemonFC | I think it's ridiculous that they have all this free time to pull over and harass some guy that's just out for a walk | Feb 16 10:51 |
schestowitz | I declined, had no form of ID, was let to walk on immediately | Feb 16 10:51 |
DaemonFC | if you have no form of ID, the law says you must tell them your name and your address | Feb 16 10:52 |
DaemonFC | lying about it is a misdemeanor | Feb 16 10:52 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] La France Forte de Nicolas #Sarkozy est en fait grecque ! - http://bit.ly/zvtyTB whoops (v @gchampeau) #france #greece | Feb 16 10:52 | |
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schestowitz | it seemed at the time that the policeman had no reason to do so other than to say "I did this and that today" | Feb 16 10:52 |
schestowitz | I was wearing shorts and went to a film | Feb 16 10:52 |
schestowitz | IIRC | Feb 16 10:52 |
schestowitz | with gym bag | Feb 16 10:53 |
schestowitz | classic terrorist... gym bad and shorts LOL | Feb 16 10:53 |
schestowitz | *bag | Feb 16 10:53 |
DaemonFC | be polite, but don't let them walk all over you | Feb 16 10:53 |
DaemonFC | and if they do arrest you, don't resist them | Feb 16 10:53 |
DaemonFC | and shut up | Feb 16 10:53 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Trimble Yuma military-grade Rugged tablets runs on Ubuntu http://goo.gl/M7NxE #gnu #linux | Feb 16 10:54 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Trimble Yuma military-grade Rugged tablets runs on Ubuntu | Brunei NEWS, Brunei HEADLINES from Brunei fm .::. Size~: 50.23 KB | Feb 16 10:54 |
schestowitz | I'd never be arrested, I don't stand in the front line | Feb 16 10:54 |
schestowitz | I also removed myself from profiles associated with my activism | Feb 16 10:54 |
schestowitz | less personified this way | Feb 16 10:54 |
schestowitz | Heh. My g/f said she worried I'd get in trouble, I showed her that my accounts are generic for this reason. | Feb 16 10:55 |
DaemonFC | I expect that I might have a bench warrant come up soon. I owe the hospital for that seizure I had in 2009, and they're threatening to "turn the case over to their attorney." | Feb 16 10:55 |
schestowitz | still? | Feb 16 10:55 |
schestowitz | and how is that a crime? | Feb 16 10:55 |
DaemonFC | and this town has a nasty way about isuing bench warrants instead of just an order to appear | Feb 16 10:55 |
schestowitz | "That's a nice cat you got there" | Feb 16 10:55 |
DaemonFC | schestowitz: A bench warrant doesn't mean you have committed a crime. | Feb 16 10:55 |
DaemonFC | any judge can issue one | Feb 16 10:55 |
schestowitz | Though I reckon you'd use your revolvers before they lay their hands on your cat | Feb 16 10:56 |
DaemonFC | it means "find this guy and bring him to me" | Feb 16 10:56 |
DaemonFC | bill collectors get judges to use them to arrest people who owe them money | Feb 16 10:56 |
DaemonFC | and make them sit in jail overnight before they can go see the judge | Feb 16 10:56 |
schestowitz | like people sending lawyers and couriers to personally serve some legal docs? | Feb 16 10:57 |
schestowitz | I think SCO tried doing this to PJ at one stage | Feb 16 10:57 |
DaemonFC | worse | Feb 16 10:57 |
schestowitz | before I went totally bust | Feb 16 10:57 |
DaemonFC | you'll be going about your business one day | Feb 16 10:57 |
DaemonFC | and the sheriff will knock on the door | Feb 16 10:57 |
DaemonFC | and arrest you | Feb 16 10:57 |
schestowitz | or come to your work | Feb 16 10:57 |
DaemonFC | so you can sit in jail overnight before appearing in civil court | Feb 16 10:57 |
schestowitz | to serve some letter, element of surprise | Feb 16 10:57 |
DaemonFC | regarding what could be as little as $20 | Feb 16 10:57 |
DaemonFC | it's to scare you and put the bill collector in a better position to get you to pay up | Feb 16 10:58 |
DaemonFC | on their terms | Feb 16 10:58 |
schestowitz | it's detrreance | Feb 16 10:58 |
schestowitz | "you can't hide"| | Feb 16 10:58 |
schestowitz | "don't bother trying" | Feb 16 10:58 |
schestowitz | *deterrence | Feb 16 10:58 |
schestowitz | "We want to stick stuff in our mouth" (for DNA samples) | Feb 16 10:59 |
schestowitz | /s/our/your/ | Feb 16 10:59 |
DaemonFC | schestowitz: Yeah, they fingerprint you while you're there | Feb 16 10:59 |
DaemonFC | but the state of Indiana doesn't let them take DNA | Feb 16 10:59 |
schestowitz | I saw one such kit last week | Feb 16 10:59 |
DaemonFC | (yet) | Feb 16 10:59 |
DaemonFC | the Republicans are trying to change that | Feb 16 10:59 |
schestowitz | along with the docs that come with it | Feb 16 10:59 |
schestowitz | It's good to become familiar with the legal process and rights here, so as to avoid being manipulated into databases or accusations made against you | Feb 16 11:00 |
schestowitz | very trigger-happy the lawyers in the UK, in some areas worse than in the US | Feb 16 11:00 |
DaemonFC | it's bad that a person has to know so much just so that they're not in their playing the game without knowing the rules | Feb 16 11:01 |
DaemonFC | *there | Feb 16 11:01 |
schestowitz | http://www.engadget.com/2012/02/09/canonical-to-end-official-kubuntu-support/ | Feb 16 11:01 |
DaemonFC | the state makes no particular effort to educate people about their legal rights | Feb 16 11:01 |
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DaemonFC | or what the law actually says | Feb 16 11:01 |
schestowitz | DaemonFC: they can make up rules | Feb 16 11:01 |
DaemonFC | it never comes up in school | Feb 16 11:01 |
schestowitz | temporarily | Feb 16 11:01 |
schestowitz | it's not an offence if it's part of a trick | Feb 16 11:01 |
schestowitz | and then they play stick and carrot | Feb 16 11:02 |
schestowitz | or bad cop, good cop | Feb 16 11:02 |
DaemonFC | they don't want a well informed public | Feb 16 11:02 |
DaemonFC | they want the deck to be stacked | Feb 16 11:02 |
schestowitz | [11:01] <DaemonFC> the state makes no particular effort to educate people about their legal rights | Feb 16 11:02 |
schestowitz | Yes, been said many times before | Feb 16 11:02 |
DaemonFC | they want a public that doesn't know they have rights | Feb 16 11:02 |
schestowitz | school doesn't teach that, not that it would take too much time. Maybe 3 classes for the basics. | Feb 16 11:02 |
schestowitz | [11:02] <DaemonFC> they want a public that doesn't know they have rights << right, and to overtrust authority | Feb 16 11:03 |
schestowitz | be it govt. military, allies from abroad (like the US for us in the UK) | Feb 16 11:03 |
schestowitz | don't question, trust | Feb 16 11:03 |
DaemonFC | they know how to manipulate the average person | Feb 16 11:04 |
DaemonFC | they do it all the time and it usually works | Feb 16 11:04 |
schestowitz | easier confessions | Feb 16 11:05 |
schestowitz | cheaper | Feb 16 11:05 |
schestowitz | the problem is | Feb 16 11:05 |
schestowitz | same tricks being used to trip up good people | Feb 16 11:05 |
DaemonFC | right, they don't care about finding the right guy | Feb 16 11:05 |
DaemonFC | they care about case closure rate | Feb 16 11:05 |
schestowitz | like those who work against the state when it goes rogue. Remember that police can be mercenaries for the state owners. | Feb 16 11:05 |
DaemonFC | even if they majorly fucked up the case | Feb 16 11:05 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Ubuntu & #Debian top community poll http://ur1.ca/87aec #linux | Feb 16 11:05 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Ubuntu, Debian top community poll | ITworld .::. Size~: 124.49 KB | Feb 16 11:05 |
DaemonFC | as long as it's closed | Feb 16 11:05 |
schestowitz | you can see it in the press | Feb 16 11:06 |
schestowitz | they describe it as failure when one is accused of murder but the judge says there is not sufficient evidence | Feb 16 11:06 |
schestowitz | as if, trial by media | Feb 16 11:06 |
DaemonFC | that's why you have that innocence project springing hundreds of innocent people who were wrongfully convicted | Feb 16 11:06 |
schestowitz | and the goal is not justice | Feb 16 11:06 |
schestowitz | but putting a finger and blame on someone | Feb 16 11:06 |
DaemonFC | the state doesn't care who they nab and throw in jail | Feb 16 11:06 |
DaemonFC | as long as it looks like they have a high case closure rate | Feb 16 11:07 |
schestowitz | "Come on JUDGE, find some evidence already and GET IT F** over with!" | Feb 16 11:07 |
schestowitz | DaemonFC: yes, perception | Feb 16 11:07 |
schestowitz | doesn't matter satisfsaction rates | Feb 16 11:07 |
schestowitz | as long as you make the sales | Feb 16 11:07 |
DaemonFC | Richard Stallman made an analogy of what Capitalism usually ends up leading to | Feb 16 11:08 |
DaemonFC | competitors who don't care what they have to do to get a reward | Feb 16 11:08 |
DaemonFC | (he used the runners in a fist fight example) | Feb 16 11:08 |
DaemonFC | the same argument applies with the police and prosecutors | Feb 16 11:08 |
DaemonFC | if you don't care about doing an honest job, and nobody is going to call you out on how you got to the finish line, you'll find "shortcuts" | Feb 16 11:10 |
DaemonFC | schestowitz: http://img577.imageshack.us/img577/7655/snapshot9r.png | Feb 16 11:11 |
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DaemonFC | I noticed that Kubuntu has a plasmoid for the global menu system that Unity uses | Feb 16 11:11 |
DaemonFC | the whole menu over dbus thing | Feb 16 11:11 |
schestowitz | I haven't tried it yet | Feb 16 11:12 |
DaemonFC | it actually works a lot better than the Unity counterpart (though Kubuntu doesn't enable it by default) | Feb 16 11:12 |
schestowitz | I recently browsed through and downloaded many plasmoids though | Feb 16 11:12 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Ubuntu 11.10 Review: Benchmarked Against #Vista7 http://goo.gl/lfJBE #gnu #linux | Feb 16 11:12 | |
DaemonFC | it doesn't hide the menu when you move the cursor away | Feb 16 11:12 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] As #Ubuntu is the de facto GNU/Linux desktop, the free/libre desktop as a whole is increasingly being judged by Unity. Good or bad? | Feb 16 11:12 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Ubuntu 11.10 Review: Benchmarked Against Windows 7 : Ubuntu 11.10 'Oneiric Ocelot', Reviewed .::. Size~: 132.96 KB | Feb 16 11:12 |
schestowitz | there's some for link shortening and embedded terminals | Feb 16 11:12 |
schestowitz | minirok doesn't work with the controllers, but anyway, I can use global accelerators | Feb 16 11:13 |
schestowitz | DaemonFC: I like your plasma theme | Feb 16 11:14 |
schestowitz | I also installed the one you told me about on both boxes | Feb 16 11:15 |
schestowitz | the iconset can be changed to the one Mint uses | Feb 16 11:15 |
DaemonFC | there's one called "Naked" that is the one in that shot | Feb 16 11:15 |
DaemonFC | http://img546.imageshack.us/img546/9267/snapshot10e.png | Feb 16 11:15 |
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DaemonFC | with Yakuake | Feb 16 11:16 |
DaemonFC | I switched over to kwin-gles some time ago | Feb 16 11:17 |
DaemonFC | it performs a lot better than the OpenGL version | Feb 16 11:17 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Innenministerin stoppt umstrittene Web-Zensur - http://bit.ly/zOfVGD austrian minister against #ACTA (v @jerezim) #at | Feb 16 11:17 | |
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DaemonFC | there's no way to get out of using OpenGL over GLX with proprietary video drivers | Feb 16 11:18 |
DaemonFC | boo | Feb 16 11:18 |
DaemonFC | OpenGL is rather bloated an inefficient, and GLX just plain sucks | Feb 16 11:19 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] This One for +Fabian Scherschel :-) http://ur1.ca/87aos | Feb 16 11:19 | |
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schestowitz | i use the one you told me about | Feb 16 11:19 |
schestowitz | i can't remember what it's called | Feb 16 11:19 |
schestowitz | "lucid" or some word to that effect | Feb 16 11:19 |
DaemonFC | I switched to OpenGL ES with EGL and the kwin framerate is a solid 60 fps | Feb 16 11:19 |
schestowitz | glass | Feb 16 11:19 |
DaemonFC | it fluctuates a lot with OpenGL over GLX | Feb 16 11:19 |
schestowitz | for icons I use KFaenza | Feb 16 11:20 |
schestowitz | better than oxygen IMHO | Feb 16 11:20 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Dropbox: Get Read / Write EncFS Support On Android Using Cryptonite http://identi.ca/url/66682228 | Feb 16 11:20 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #SOCA's Frightening New Approach to Music Piracy - http://bit.ly/yzuJQw why it's dangerous, why it must stop #copyright | Feb 16 11:20 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Dropbox: Get Read / Write EncFS Support On Android Using Cryptonite ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog .::. Size~: 64.63 KB | Feb 16 11:20 |
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schestowitz | is the glass effect in panel translucency a new kwin/kde feature? | Feb 16 11:21 |
DaemonFC | no, translucency has been supported for ages | Feb 16 11:22 |
DaemonFC | the effect just got a LOT less expensive in 4.8 | Feb 16 11:22 |
DaemonFC | in 4.7 or older, that effect is a performance killer | Feb 16 11:22 |
DaemonFC | there's a huge amount of talk about replacing X, for good reason | Feb 16 11:23 |
DaemonFC | with a modern desktop environment and window manager, with good OpenGL/ ES driver, you're using about 5% of what X can do | Feb 16 11:24 |
DaemonFC | the only thing it's really even there for anymore is for window positioning updates | Feb 16 11:24 |
DaemonFC | unless you're not using OpenGL / ES-based compositing | Feb 16 11:25 |
DaemonFC | ewww | Feb 16 11:25 |
DaemonFC | then it's responsible for actually drawing everything | Feb 16 11:25 |
DaemonFC | and it does a poor job of it | Feb 16 11:25 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Canonical’s Ubuntu challenges Red Hat in the business desktop market http://goo.gl/BQMy2 that's a valid angle | Feb 16 11:25 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Feb 16 11:25 |
DaemonFC | one of the biggest problems the user sees when X is doing the drawing is tearing | Feb 16 11:26 |
DaemonFC | I think the way they're running Unity is pure sleaze | Feb 16 11:26 |
DaemonFC | :) | Feb 16 11:26 |
DaemonFC | I tried it out the other day on a daily CD and it has become more stable and more usable | Feb 16 11:27 |
DaemonFC | but I don't agree with the way it's being developed | Feb 16 11:27 |
DaemonFC | and it's still largely using featureless GNOME applications | Feb 16 11:27 |
DaemonFC | that they got it to stop crashing constantly is a huge step forward for them though | Feb 16 11:28 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Music Industry Mulls Suing Google Over “Pirate” Search Results - http://bit.ly/yGjT9c this is inevitable | Feb 16 11:29 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Debian & #Ubuntu patching up rocky romance http://ur1.ca/85u0f #linux | Feb 16 11:29 | |
schestowitz | what about that glassy effect? | Feb 16 11:29 |
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TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Debian, Ubuntu patching up rocky romance • The Register .::. Size~: 27.63 KB | Feb 16 11:29 |
DaemonFC | what glassy effect? | Feb 16 11:29 |
schestowitz | Not a wallpaper feature | Feb 16 11:29 |
schestowitz | DaemonFC: where the panel obscures the wallpaper | Feb 16 11:29 |
schestowitz | liek Aero Glass | Feb 16 11:29 |
schestowitz | in KDE 3.6 they added this effect to full windows | Feb 16 11:30 |
schestowitz | experimentally | Feb 16 11:30 |
schestowitz | *4.6 | Feb 16 11:30 |
schestowitz | OMGUbuntu wrote about it at the time | Feb 16 11:30 |
DaemonFC | oh | Feb 16 11:30 |
DaemonFC | oxygen transparent? | Feb 16 11:30 |
DaemonFC | I have that | Feb 16 11:30 |
DaemonFC | it doesn't work on GTK apps though | Feb 16 11:30 |
DaemonFC | only for Qt | Feb 16 11:30 |
DaemonFC | so I went back to Oxygen | Feb 16 11:30 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] In ~2007 Mark Shuttleworth said he had almost chosen KDE for Ubuntu. Later he spoke about possibly moving to Qt. Now kills Kubuntu. | Feb 16 11:32 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] KDE4 rocks on Debian Squeeze, but #Debian sometimes insists on admin and updates via the GNOME side, which sucks. #kde | Feb 16 11:34 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Canonical made Unity default, then introduced Ubuntu Business Desktop Remix. Like mixing clutch with a 747. Unity is cumbersome. | Feb 16 11:37 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Ubuntu 11.10 beats out #Vista7 in benchmark grudge match http://goo.gl/EvmTa #microsoft #gnu #linux #ubuntu | Feb 16 11:39 | |
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DaemonFC | schestowitz: http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/7472/snapshot11px.png | Feb 16 11:39 |
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DaemonFC | something like this? | Feb 16 11:39 |
schestowitz | yeah | Feb 16 11:40 |
schestowitz | built in functionality now? | Feb 16 11:40 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Canonical takes the Ubuntu Server pulse http://ur1.ca/87b4t #ubuntu | Feb 16 11:40 | |
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DaemonFC | no | Feb 16 11:41 |
schestowitz | dented | Feb 16 11:41 |
DaemonFC | it's in the kde-goodies ppa | Feb 16 11:41 |
schestowitz | I see.. | Feb 16 11:42 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #KDE UI features are far more advanced. http://ur1.ca/87b6x #qt #oxygen | Feb 16 11:42 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !Google reportedly to release !Android 5.0 ‘Jelly Bean’ by June 2012 http://ping.fm/mb6q7 | Feb 16 11:42 | |
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DaemonFC | schestowitz: On KDE 4.8, the oxygen transparency theme has a negligible performance hit | Feb 16 11:43 |
DaemonFC | it was a lot worse under 4.7 | Feb 16 11:43 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Unanimous pressure in EP forces Commission to accept binding Treaty of #Blind Persons - http://bit.ly/wIDHYu really big #eu | Feb 16 11:44 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Ubuntu and #Slackware Named Top Desktop Linux Distros http://goo.gl/vr1qM #gnu #linux | Feb 16 11:44 | |
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schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1303756 "thats why it cannot exist. the absence of power relations i.e. ppl having more influence than others is utopian" | Feb 16 11:44 |
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schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1303756 "define judged? Do you mean the criticism against it?" | Feb 16 11:44 |
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schestowitz | "I like Unity on my old laptop (Hp 5700), works fine. On the other computer: "Intel Core Quad Q9400 2,66Hz, XFX GeForce 9600GT, Crucial DDR2 PC 6400 4096MB, WD Caviar GP 500GB SATA 2, Antec Nine Hundred" I use KDE." | Feb 16 11:45 |
schestowitz | "The judgement of Unity is largely irrelevant. KDE, Gnome-Shell, and a plethora of other desktop environments and toolkits can be installed on it, and still make use of the Ubuntu ecosystem and packages. Honestly, I actually like Unity, anyway." | Feb 16 11:45 |
schestowitz | I tried Unity, but an old version of it. | Feb 16 11:45 |
DaemonFC | it doesn't crash as much | Feb 16 11:45 |
schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1303595 "all hail slackware :)" | Feb 16 11:45 |
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DaemonFC | they've caved in on some of the obnoxious things it was doing | Feb 16 11:45 |
DaemonFC | if I had to, I could use it now | Feb 16 11:45 |
DaemonFC | but it's not my first choice | Feb 16 11:46 |
DaemonFC | you can turn off "apps available for download now", that was one of my gripes | Feb 16 11:46 |
DaemonFC | you have this "lens area" that you can't resize | Feb 16 11:46 |
DaemonFC | and they were using half of it to display things you "could" install | Feb 16 11:46 |
DaemonFC | now you can disable that section of the lens easily | Feb 16 11:47 |
DaemonFC | and use the full area for applications you actually have | Feb 16 11:47 |
schestowitz | https://twitter.com/petrock/status/170110101494054912?iid=am-71153098513293923835062741&nid=4+status_timestamp&uid=26603208 | Feb 16 11:48 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @petrock: @schestowitz Maybe it won't matter if it's made easier to choose from a variety of desktops. Like GNOME2 forks, GNOME3, KDE, etc. ? | Feb 16 11:48 |
schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/90671623 | Feb 16 11:49 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @Billy (m4nima1)'s status on Thursday, 16-Feb-12 11:07:08 UTC - Identi.ca: awesome | Feb 16 11:49 |
DaemonFC | hmmm, wonton soup looks a little better | Feb 16 11:49 |
schestowitz | DaemonFC: "That desktop theme is that? "https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1303997 | Feb 16 11:49 |
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schestowitz | They ask youi... | Feb 16 11:49 |
DaemonFC | the plasma theme is called "naked" | Feb 16 11:50 |
DaemonFC | the widget style and window decorator style is oxygen-transparent | Feb 16 11:51 |
DaemonFC | http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/2979/snapshot12j.png | Feb 16 11:52 |
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DaemonFC | there it is with the Wonton Soup color scheme | Feb 16 11:52 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] A First Look At The #Ubuntu 12.04 Performance http://ur1.ca/87bdp #linux | Feb 16 11:54 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Scary stuff IMHO. Via +Kristian Köhntopp http://ur1.ca/87bdw | Feb 16 11:54 | |
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schestowitz | DaemonFC: "I mean Glassified, Air, ... " https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1303997 | Feb 16 11:55 |
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schestowitz | I'll tell him. "It's called "naked"; the widget style and window decorator style is oxygen-transparent http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/2979/snapshot12j.png " | Feb 16 11:57 |
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schestowitz | LOL https://daemonfc.wordpress.com/2012/02/13/dear-mozilla-please-cut-the-crap-and-be-awesome-again-kthx/ | Feb 16 12:01 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] So far UNESCO's US stacked @Wikileaks' conference has done nothing but centralize & homogenize U.S. gvt/MSM narratives. #OccupyUNESCO | Feb 16 12:02 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Fedora 17 Alpha RC May Come Ahead Of Schedule http://ur1.ca/87blq | Feb 16 12:04 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Oopsie. http://ur1.ca/87bm4 | Feb 16 12:04 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Linux Professionals In High Demand: Report http://ur1.ca/87bnc #gnu #server | Feb 16 12:05 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #ChakraLinux Review http://ur1.ca/87bqe #gnu #linux | Feb 16 12:09 | |
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schestowitz | "What admin tasks would that be?" https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1303971 | Feb 16 12:10 |
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schestowitz | "Ironically, the panels layout seem to be set up to mimic Gnome2... #justsayin " https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1303997 | Feb 16 12:10 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Das ist wirklich spannend. 3 Minuten und man ahnt was da gerade passiert, wie das Internet und seine Dezentralität di... http://b1t.it/aQAA | Feb 16 12:10 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @onetruecathal: I'm following a #UNESCO meeting where they all chat about how they benefitted from @wikileaks, while bashing @wikileaks | Feb 16 12:10 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] A Freelance Writer's Timesheet http://ur1.ca/87bsd | Feb 16 12:12 | |
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DaemonFC | https://www.facebook.com/events/173754896067237/ | Feb 16 12:15 |
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DaemonFC | preparing my army for an attack against the "Sickle Syndicate" | Feb 16 12:15 |
DaemonFC | wonder who that could be... ;) | Feb 16 12:15 |
DaemonFC | I have some F-22s, some A-10s, some Apache attack helicopters | Feb 16 12:17 |
DaemonFC | lots of tanks | Feb 16 12:17 |
DaemonFC | and some missile launchers | Feb 16 12:18 |
DaemonFC | some riflemen to use as mortar bait | Feb 16 12:18 |
DaemonFC | and some suicide bombers | Feb 16 12:18 |
amarsh04 | back in a few, new kernel, updated lots of stuff | Feb 16 12:20 |
DaemonFC | if you defeat the "Sickle Syndicate" you get a laser tank | Feb 16 12:20 |
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schestowitz | Oxford Uni. will make a decision in March as it turns out. Maybe I can work in the existing department at the same time. Also, I just got good news from my employer down in London, our biggest client is extending the contract, which gives excellent work security there (and easy hours, high pay). | Feb 16 12:20 |
schestowitz | DaemonFC: you got some replies | Feb 16 12:20 |
schestowitz | in diaspora | Feb 16 12:21 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Oh heiliger Markt! Du wirst alles regeln! Mit unsichtbarer Hand! Was kann da schon schiefgehen! http://www.spiegel.de/... http://b1t.it/aQA7 | Feb 16 12:29 | |
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DaemonFC | I think it's likely that Fedora 17 will keep using Ext4 | Feb 16 12:30 |
DaemonFC | btrfs fsck has been "any day now" for several months | Feb 16 12:32 |
DaemonFC | unless it gets landed in Fedora 17 by the time it's alpha, the btrfs feature will get pushed back to Fedora 18 | Feb 16 12:32 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] UNESCO admits false representation. Thanks. https://t.co/gYAJSklB | Feb 16 12:37 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #ScientificLinux 5.7 http://ur1.ca/87c7u #redhat | Feb 16 12:37 | |
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oiaohm | DaemonFC: The btrfs fsck does exist as a alpha. | Feb 16 12:38 |
oiaohm | DaemonFC: so its more a question of progress. | Feb 16 12:38 |
oiaohm | DaemonFC: if you watch the lca2012 video by the xfs developer he show far worse issues in btrfs than not being able to fsck it. | Feb 16 12:39 |
schestowitz | DaemonFC: https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1303979 | Feb 16 12:39 |
schestowitz | " | Feb 16 12:39 |
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schestowitz | It really is. I don't know what they were thinking with the "You can't see the menu until you go and move the mouse over where it is (but wasn't visible) 'feature'". And as for the day-glo boxes behind all of the launcher icons.... yuch. | Feb 16 12:39 |
schestowitz | For a much better implementation of basically the same thing, see the "Icon only task launcher" that's default in #KDE on #Chakra (may be elsewhere, I don't know). Prettier. Slicker. More useful. | Feb 16 12:39 |
schestowitz | " | Feb 16 12:39 |
schestowitz | ttried chakra yet? | Feb 16 12:39 |
schestowitz | "Lovin' it! Especially the new theme, the icon only launcher and the speed. Sweet! " https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1303763 | Feb 16 12:40 |
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schestowitz | "Missing BURG through since they switched to ugly, er I mean Grub2 " | Feb 16 12:40 |
schestowitz | Oh, it's you thee https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1303997 "I used to use GNOME 2. You can set up the panels in KDE to do pretty much anything though." | Feb 16 12:41 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Feb 16 12:41 |
schestowitz | *there | Feb 16 12:41 |
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oiaohm | Really the dragon in the room is wayland. | Feb 16 12:41 |
schestowitz | "there's nothing wrong with gnome panels, I use something similar, but only one panel" | Feb 16 12:41 |
oiaohm | Wayland upsets the complete X11 windows manager idea. | Feb 16 12:41 |
schestowitz | oiaohm: for devices it'll be good | Feb 16 12:41 |
schestowitz | like kde tablets | Feb 16 12:41 |
schestowitz | next ubuntu: "I'm looking forward to test it. :) " https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1304029 | Feb 16 12:42 |
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oiaohm | Really for desktop wayland will be good in a lot of ways. | Feb 16 12:42 |
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oiaohm | less central crash points. | Feb 16 12:42 |
DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOYo9Yz-haE&feature=related | Feb 16 12:42 |
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schestowitz | Heh. With the new contract we got, I can still move anywhere I want in the UK and still do all my jobs from home. Couldn't be any better! | Feb 16 12:43 |
schestowitz | and still find lots of time to tweet, blog, and sit on IRC with 2 computers persistently on it displayed | Feb 16 12:43 |
schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1303906 | Feb 16 12:44 |
schestowitz | " | Feb 16 12:44 |
schestowitz | I would say it is a good thing since I trust Unity to shape up into a very polished newbie-friendly desktop although it had a rocky start. I like Unity and I like Gnome Shell and KDE too and hope they all will remain relevant and healthy alternatives. | Feb 16 12:44 |
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schestowitz | I hope they can remain as compatible as possible from an application API perspective so they all can use the same applications seamlessly with the appmenu being global in Unity while local to the window in Gnome and so on. | Feb 16 12:44 |
schestowitz | It's great if we can provide different user experiences without fragmenting the application developers. into different camps. | Feb 16 12:44 |
schestowitz | " | Feb 16 12:44 |
DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mkw67GHlGgY&feature=related | Feb 16 12:49 |
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DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rJp-xasT94&feature=related | Feb 16 12:50 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] UNSCOW have now deleted their tweet apologising for false representation of Geoffery Robinson QC https://t.co/gYAJSklB | Feb 16 12:50 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] correction UNSCOW=UNESCO | Feb 16 12:50 | |
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DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrNEsA5f8no&feature=related | Feb 16 12:51 |
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DaemonFC | Don't worry she was immediately rushed to the kitchen | Feb 16 12:51 |
DaemonFC | MobFrenziedHomicide 2 weeks ago 18 | Feb 16 12:51 |
DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-7y31MSQH0&feature=relmfu | Feb 16 12:56 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #CrunchBang 10 update split into two editions http://goo.gl/GDs0M #gnu #linux | Feb 16 13:00 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: CrunchBang 10 update split into two editions - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 42.02 KB | Feb 16 13:00 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @gsuberland UNESCO You should listen to public opinion on this one, it's a PR battle you can't win. Let WL formally speak from a panel. | Feb 16 13:02 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Oopsie for the "IP"-maximalists. European Court decides that Hosting provides can NOT be forced to install filter syst... http://b1t.it/aQB5 | Feb 16 13:04 | |
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DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iypBTQYnJi4 | Feb 16 13:05 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Linus Likes #Linux License http://ur1.ca/87cte #torvalds | Feb 16 13:05 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The Torch is Passed: Talking with New Fedora Project Leader Robyn Bergeron http://goo.gl/qB9YN #fedora #gnu #linux | Feb 16 13:07 | |
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DaemonFC | http://torvalds-family.blogspot.com/2008/11/black-and-white.html | Feb 16 13:10 |
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schestowitz | meh | Feb 16 13:10 |
schestowitz | no matter if you're... | Feb 16 13:10 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] UK Government starts new Open Standards Consultation http://goo.gl/EBYcK #standard #egov | Feb 16 13:10 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] UNESCO's apology is back https://t.co/08YesQyI | Feb 16 13:10 | |
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schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1303906 "When #unity first came out, I wasn't sure I'd like it. But I think every new improvement is making it better, and I like to use it now." | Feb 16 13:12 |
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schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1304233 "lol, that image" | Feb 16 13:14 |
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MinceR | so, Linus is misinformed about obama | Feb 16 13:14 |
XFaCE | MinceR: which link? | Feb 16 13:16 |
MinceR | 140952 < DaemonFC> http://torvalds-family.blogspot.com/2008/11/black-and-white.html | Feb 16 13:17 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Special Q&A with Monty Widenius http://ur1.ca/87d31 #db | Feb 16 13:17 | |
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DaemonFC | One of the common claims of the religious right is that television (and now the internet) is bad because you might be exposed to opinions that are not theirs | Feb 16 13:18 |
DaemonFC | if their cause were really just and the merits obvious, then they wouldn't have to worry about competing ideas because theirs would stand out as obviously correct, even amid disagreement | Feb 16 13:19 |
DaemonFC | when one group of people try to silence another group of people, it's usually because they know they're not clearly in the right on those issues and that exposing the listener to alternatives introduces a good chance that they will change their thinking | Feb 16 13:20 |
DaemonFC | that's why these groups target children | Feb 16 13:21 |
DaemonFC | through the child's parents | Feb 16 13:21 |
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DaemonFC | if they can get the parent to filter everything the kids get to see or hear for the first 18 years of their lives, they will have already surrendered their ability for critical thinking, following crazy superstitious beliefs will be second nature | Feb 16 13:22 |
schestowitz | wb, abushcrafterforg | Feb 16 13:22 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] There are no representatives of WikiLeaks at today's UNESCO WikiLeaks conference. | Feb 16 13:22 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #SOCA: Police can monitor file download histories - http://bit.ly/ybA6SD as I guessed; question is: how? #surveillance | Feb 16 13:22 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #HP shares database smarts with #EnterpriseDB http://goo.gl/yJdJa #postgres | Feb 16 13:22 | |
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abushcrafterforg | wb? | Feb 16 13:22 |
DaemonFC | every cult makes a double down effort to control the children | Feb 16 13:23 |
abushcrafterforg | what the subject? | Feb 16 13:23 |
DaemonFC | the chances for them to get someone that isn't used to thinking like them to convert "short of the threat of physical violence" is slim | Feb 16 13:23 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Cisco to challenge #Microsoft Skype deal at EU court - http://bbc.in/zB5Jo8 interesting how everyone suddenly wants #openstandards... | Feb 16 13:24 | |
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abushcrafterforg | back in a moment | Feb 16 13:24 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] O caso C360/10 do Tribunal Europeu de Justiça determina que filtragem activa vai para além dos limites do razoável na protecção de © útil! | Feb 16 13:27 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Brian Stevens on Red Hat's Involvement with #OpenStack http://goo.gl/I1aKv #redhat | Feb 16 13:27 | |
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DaemonFC | RMS links to a lot of petitions that end up signing you up for spam | Feb 16 13:28 |
DaemonFC | CREDO is one of them | Feb 16 13:28 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @jwildeboer Oopsie for the "IP"-maximalists. European Court decides that Hosting provides can NOT be forced to install filter syst... ... | Feb 16 13:29 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] CEJ: Furnizorii de găzduire nu trebuie să impună servicii de filtrare a conținutului protejat de #copyright http://ur1.ca/87d9t | Feb 16 13:29 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Movies Are Expensive To Make Because They're So Lucrative - http://slate.me/xVmNMx crucial point (v @normative) #businessmodels #copyright | Feb 16 13:30 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Only a few days ago, after serious complaints about being excluded, did UNESCO say we could hand out a few flyers. | Feb 16 13:30 | |
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schestowitz | DaemonFC: examples like these shouldn't have RMS blamed | Feb 16 13:31 |
schestowitz | if the petition is started by him, that's another matter | Feb 16 13:31 |
DaemonFC | a lot of times I don't sign them because I don't want them sending me 5-6 emails every day with a broken unsubscribe link | Feb 16 13:33 |
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abushcrafterforg | I think i missed a few posts could you repost the last few before i said "back in a moment" | Feb 16 13:34 |
schestowitz | So much activity in diaspora this morning... "Eww.... No thanks. " https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1299541 | Feb 16 13:35 |
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schestowitz | [13:22] <schestowitz> wb, abushcrafterforg | Feb 16 13:35 |
abushcrafterforg | There not showing up in pidgin... | Feb 16 13:35 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Une plainte déposée contre X par les deux négociateurs français de l’#ACTA suite à un communiqué d’Act Up-Paris - http://bit.ly/wxcBYG weird | Feb 16 13:35 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Act Up-Paris | Une plainte déposée contre X par les deux négociateurs français de l’ACTA suite à un communiqué d’Act Up-Paris .::. Size~: 15.47 KB | Feb 16 13:35 |
DaemonFC | Pidgin is not a great IRC client | Feb 16 13:35 |
schestowitz | [13:28] <DaemonFC> RMS links to a lot of petitions that end up signing you up for spam | Feb 16 13:36 |
schestowitz | [13:28] <DaemonFC> CREDO is one of them | Feb 16 13:36 |
DaemonFC | it's unusable without the various IRC helper plugins | Feb 16 13:36 |
schestowitz | plus some stuff from the syndicator and techrights bot | Feb 16 13:36 |
abushcrafterforg | thanks | Feb 16 13:37 |
abushcrafterforg | yea pidgin does not like loads of chatrooms open | Feb 16 13:37 |
abushcrafterforg | it seams | Feb 16 13:37 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Keeping #SOPA Measures Out of Trade Agreements #ACTA, #TPP - http://huff.to/z6jzDr "if you're not at the table, you're on the menu" - ha! | Feb 16 13:40 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Or otherwise engage in debate. This is the same right that any audience member has. UNESCO must admit fault and move on. | Feb 16 13:42 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz Brian Stevens on Red Hat's Involvement with #OpenStack http://goo.gl/I1aKv #redhat | Feb 16 13:45 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz #HP shares database smarts with #EnterpriseDB http://goo.gl/yJdJa #postgres | Feb 16 13:45 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz Special Q&A with Monty Widenius http://ur1.ca/87d31 #db | Feb 16 13:45 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz UK Government starts new Open Standards Consultation http://goo.gl/EBYcK #standard #egov | Feb 16 13:47 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz #ScientificLinux 5.7 http://ur1.ca/87c7u #redhat | Feb 16 13:47 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz #Linux Professionals In High Demand: Report http://ur1.ca/87bnc #gnu #server | Feb 16 13:47 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz Ubuntu 11.10 beats out #Vista7 in benchmark grudge match http://goo.gl/EvmTa #microsoft #gnu #linux #ubuntu | Feb 16 13:47 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz Canonical’s Ubuntu challenges Red Hat in the business desktop market http://goo.gl/BQMy2 that's a valid angle | Feb 16 13:47 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz #Ubuntu & #Debian top community poll http://ur1.ca/87aec #linux | Feb 16 13:47 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz Trimble Yuma military-grade Rugged tablets runs on Ubuntu http://goo.gl/M7NxE #gnu #linux | Feb 16 13:47 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz Ubuntu vs. Windows 7 on the business desktop http://ur1.ca/879zc #linux | Feb 16 13:47 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz Freedom Doesn't Have Any Lobbyists http://ur1.ca/879kj #freedom | Feb 16 13:47 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz Red Hat scoffs at VMware's open cloud claims http://goo.gl/gZmKA #redhat #gnu #linux | Feb 16 13:50 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Geoffery Robertson QC told UNESCO that excluding WL from a WL conference was conducting "Hamlet without the prince". | Feb 16 13:50 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @glynmoody Keeping #SOPA Measures Out of Trade Agreements #ACTA, #TPP - http://huff.to/z6jzDr "if you're not at the table, you're on ... | Feb 16 13:52 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #LibreOffice 3.5 sharpens its grammar checking http://goo.gl/MqByf http://goo.gl/5I5xe #odf | Feb 16 13:52 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @glynmoody #Cisco to challenge #Microsoft Skype deal at EU court - http://bbc.in/zB5Jo8 interesting how everyone suddenly wants #open ... | Feb 16 13:52 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Java-alternative #Kotlin now available as open source http://goo.gl/gpmQO #java | Feb 16 13:54 | |
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DaemonFC | http://listserv.fnal.gov/scripts/wa.exe?A2=ind1202&L=scientific-linux-announce&T=0&P=222 | Feb 16 13:55 |
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DaemonFC | Scientific Linux 6.2 is out | Feb 16 13:55 |
schestowitz | Big ouch http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Horde-Groupware-contains-backdoor-1433972.html | Feb 16 13:55 |
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schestowitz | DaemonFC: yes, I dented that earlier | Feb 16 13:56 |
schestowitz | [13:47] [Notice] -TRIdentica to #techrights- [rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz #ScientificLinux 5.7 http://ur1.ca/87c7u #redhat | Feb 16 13:56 |
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schestowitz | oh | Feb 16 13:56 |
schestowitz | wrong version there | Feb 16 13:56 |
schestowitz | got url? | Feb 16 13:56 |
DaemonFC | http://www.scientificlinux.org/distributions/6x/62/ | Feb 16 13:56 |
DaemonFC | http://www.scientificlinux.org/distributions/6x/rnotes/sl-release-notes-6.2.html | Feb 16 13:57 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Setting up a Linux server on a Windows network http://ur1.ca/87dsn #windows #microsoft #gnu #linux #server | Feb 16 13:57 | |
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DaemonFC | Red Hat hired their former project leader | Feb 16 13:58 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Scientific Linux 6.2 is out http://ur1.ca/87du8 #redhat | Feb 16 13:59 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] The primary source email trail, with context, is available here, towards the end: http://t.co/6a03tVL3 | Feb 16 14:00 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] .@OpenForumEurope finds trademark references in IT procurements widespread, break rules by @sjig | http://red.ht/wFvF53 #OFE | Feb 16 14:02 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz Scientific Linux 6.2 is out http://ur1.ca/87du8 #redhat | Feb 16 14:04 | |
schestowitz | "Niiiicee!!! " https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1304233 | Feb 16 14:04 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz Java-alternative #Kotlin now available as open source http://goo.gl/gpmQO #java | Feb 16 14:10 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @glynmoody #Cisco to challenge #Microsoft Skype deal at EU court - http://bbc.in/zB5Jo8 interesting how everyone suddenly wants #open ... | Feb 16 14:10 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Exposing corruption is priceless. It is also very expensive. Support #WikiLeaks. Please Donate http://t.co/p9sRRwCE | Feb 16 14:10 | |
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DaemonFC | http://arstechnica.com/apple/reviews/2012/01/is-lion-server-suitable-for-home-use-ars-investigates.ars | Feb 16 14:14 |
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DaemonFC | I've dealt with OS X several times, I was less than amused on each occasion | Feb 16 14:14 |
DaemonFC | their GUI is actually worse than OS 9's was | Feb 16 14:14 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] blender + krita on the mango open movie project. wow! http://ur1.ca/87e5z | Feb 16 14:15 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] About #Patents. Again - http://bit.ly/zxyxc7 great post; key point is we live in age of inventive abundance - patents designed for scarcity | Feb 16 14:17 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Open webOS governance model described http://ur1.ca/87e6h | Feb 16 14:17 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Rafael Teixeira - Google+ - About Patents. Again For me, in the regard of granted… .::. Size~: 76.58 KB | Feb 16 14:17 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Welcome to FoWL : Friends of #WikiLeaks https://t.co/xWcS5ckQ - join now | Feb 16 14:20 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] European Commission discusses tactical, partial retreat on #ACTA - http://bit.ly/yRKEIN important insights into EC thinking: pl. read | Feb 16 14:22 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] we're using Mer + Plasma Active. nothing particularly hidden there .. and yes, kde games are there :) | Feb 16 14:25 | |
schestowitz | DaemonFC: isn't the whole line of mac servers kaput? | Feb 16 14:25 |
DaemonFC | no | Feb 16 14:27 |
DaemonFC | they still have XServe and Mac Pros afaik | Feb 16 14:27 |
DaemonFC | the hardware isn't bad | Feb 16 14:27 |
DaemonFC | expensive | Feb 16 14:27 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RIP #Compiz http://ur1.ca/87ecr #linux | Feb 16 14:27 | |
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DaemonFC | there seems to be almost no end to what you can pay for one | Feb 16 14:27 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Welcome to FoWL : Friends of #WikiLeaks https://t.co/xWcS5ckQ | Feb 16 14:32 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] SPÖ-Mandatare fordern #ACTA-Stopp - http://bit.ly/zCP1R0 good stuff happening in #austria (v @lexelas @bendrath) | Feb 16 14:34 | |
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schestowitz | "Lots of 'lliteration. ;-) " https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1304233 | Feb 16 14:36 |
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schestowitz | "I have to give this distro a try at some point. I installed CentOS in VBox and getting familiar with that, but SL seems to be grabbing my attention each time I hear about it. :-) " https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1304132 | Feb 16 14:36 |
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schestowitz | DaemonFC: just got 5 messages from Canonical staff | Feb 16 14:36 |
schestowitz | wherever Ubuntu is not praised | Feb 16 14:36 |
schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1303906 | Feb 16 14:37 |
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schestowitz | "We (people who already use free software) all understand and recognize# Ubuntu by its official name: *Ubuntu*. The (99% of the) world *not* using #Ubuntu has no interest whatsoever in which kernel, colonel, or yak-like creature is inside. For all they care it can be powered by pizza. They don't even care what the desktop is called. Ask them. " | Feb 16 14:37 |
MinceR | lol | Feb 16 14:37 |
schestowitz | "We (people who already use free software) all understand and recognize #Ubuntu by its official name: Ubuntu. The (99% of the) world not using #Ubuntu has no interest whatsoever in which kernel, colonel, or yak-like creature is inside. For all they care it can be powered by pizza. They don't even care what the desktop is called. Ask them. " | Feb 16 14:37 |
schestowitz | "#Ubuntu has five "P's". Philosophy is one of them. " https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1303801 | Feb 16 14:38 |
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MinceR | i wonder what "philosophy" that is | Feb 16 14:38 |
schestowitz | "Misses the mark. No mention of predatory business model or non-existent community. Features come and go. " https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1303985 | Feb 16 14:38 |
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schestowitz | this one I agree with him on | Feb 16 14:38 |
schestowitz | ubuntu devs speaking about market distrotion | Feb 16 14:38 |
schestowitz | WHOA "Katherine Noyse http://www.pcworld.com/author/Katherine-Noyes really needs to drop the "L" word. I wonder if her editors will let her ;) Any guesses? " | Feb 16 14:39 |
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schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1304003 | Feb 16 14:39 |
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schestowitz | First of all, it's Noyes | Feb 16 14:39 |
schestowitz | Not Noyse | Feb 16 14:39 |
schestowitz | Maybe he implies "noise" | Feb 16 14:39 |
schestowitz | And she's strognly pro-Linuix | Feb 16 14:39 |
schestowitz | Soiunds like he tries to push her to stop saying Linux | Feb 16 14:39 |
schestowitz | and say "ubuntu" instead | Feb 16 14:40 |
schestowitz | :))))) https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1304507 | Feb 16 14:40 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @suigenerisjen: Rather ironic that @UNESCOnow Wikileaks conf on #mediafuture now associated with censorship, manipulation & obfuscation | Feb 16 14:40 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] URGENT: US Citizens PLEASE Sign Anti-RWA petition - http://bit.ly/yb4IvJ more signatures needed... #openaccess | Feb 16 14:44 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @glynmoody URGENT: US Citizens PLEASE Sign Anti-RWA petition - http://bit.ly/yb4IvJ more signatures needed... #openaccess | Feb 16 14:44 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] UK Publishers Pretend To Embrace #Copyright Reform... In Order To Kill Copyright Reform - http://bit.ly/x4bon1 cunning #hargreaves #dce | Feb 16 14:47 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: UK Publishers Pretend To Embrace Copyright Reform... In Order To Kill Copyright Reform | Techdirt .::. Size~: 47.22 KB | Feb 16 14:47 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] UNESCO live stream audio stopped as Geoffery Robertson QC is about to speak. http://alturl.com/sxwpp #OccupyUNESCO | Feb 16 14:54 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Twitter seems to have a problem with stream urls. Here, in quotes: "mms://stream.unesco.org/live/room_4_en.wmv" | Feb 16 15:00 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Linux skills in demand, wages up (Computerworld): http://bit.ly/xIQhP7 | Feb 16 15:00 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Does open design hardware have a place in manufacturing? asks @arenasolutions | http://red.ht/ApWVQL | Feb 16 15:02 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Oracle preps MySQL Cluster for Web use (Computerworld): http://bit.ly/ySOmgt | Feb 16 15:04 | |
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schestowitz | "no one killed kubuntu. There is no professional support anymore. Riddell cannot work on Kubuntu, that indeed is sad. But that's all. Qt plays an important role in Unity 2D, afaik. " https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1303963 | Feb 16 15:05 |
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DaemonFC | schestowitz: http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/6154/snapshot14n.png | Feb 16 15:06 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Google: Web apps aren't Web sites (InfoWorld): http://bit.ly/wWby3b | Feb 16 15:07 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Google's Field Guide to Web Apps: http://ur1.ca/87e6o | Feb 16 15:09 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] HP gives Vertica a fresh face (InfoWorld): http://bit.ly/wrGmM5 | Feb 16 15:09 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Geoffrey Robertson at UNESCO "Rupert Murdoch is a great Australian in the sense that Atilla is a great Hun." #OccupyUNESCO | Feb 16 15:12 | |
DaemonFC | sometimes hell comes to you | Feb 16 15:13 |
schestowitz | hell yeah | Feb 16 15:13 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Scientific Linux 5.7 and 6.2, Mozilla Firefox 10.0.1 http://ur1.ca/87f97 #techrights | Feb 16 15:14 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Unity esque #kde http://ur1.ca/87fa8 #gnu #linux | Feb 16 15:14 | |
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DaemonFC | they ported all their unity stuff to Kubuntu anyway | Feb 16 15:14 |
schestowitz | huh? 2d? | Feb 16 15:15 |
DaemonFC | nope | Feb 16 15:15 |
DaemonFC | this is plasma desktop | Feb 16 15:15 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Scientific Linux 6.2 released (H): http://bit.ly/zOGOki | Feb 16 15:17 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Ding! Round 2! Where's the popcorn? http://ur1.ca/87ffx | Feb 16 15:24 | |
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DaemonFC | http://www.indianapreppersnetwork.com/2010/12/obscene-threatening-comments-posted-at.html | Feb 16 15:26 |
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DaemonFC | lol | Feb 16 15:27 |
schestowitz | hehe | Feb 16 15:27 |
schestowitz | zombies? | Feb 16 15:27 |
schestowitz | they can also just blame"Windows" | Feb 16 15:27 |
DaemonFC | http://dangerousintersection.org/2010/12/30/in-indiana-its-illegal-to-build-snow-sculpture-of-a-penis/ | Feb 16 15:28 |
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DaemonFC | PENIS PENIS PENIS!! | Feb 16 15:28 |
schestowitz | http://jonathanischwartz.wordpress.com/2012/02/15/the-thinking-behind-carezone/ | Feb 16 15:29 |
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DaemonFC | making a sculpture of a penis can get you arrested | Feb 16 15:29 |
DaemonFC | these police officers have too much free time | Feb 16 15:29 |
DaemonFC | sometimes I search through those Christian forums for people who listed their email address and sign them up for pornographic spam | Feb 16 15:32 |
DaemonFC | but I'm evil | Feb 16 15:33 |
DaemonFC | http://www.splc.org/news/newsflash.asp?id=1501 | Feb 16 15:33 |
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schestowitz | "New TSA slogan: "Bend over for Freedom!" " https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1298795 | Feb 16 15:34 |
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MinceR | what if a sculpture depicts a larger part (or entirety) of a human body, including a penis? | Feb 16 15:34 |
schestowitz | DaemonFC: you *are* evil | Feb 16 15:35 |
schestowitz | bend over for Satan now | Feb 16 15:35 |
MinceR | "bend over, Junior" | Feb 16 15:35 |
schestowitz | MinceR: then it's "art" | Feb 16 15:35 |
MinceR | oh. | Feb 16 15:35 |
schestowitz | MinceR: redneck? | Feb 16 15:35 |
DaemonFC | http://www.findadeath.com/forum/showthread.php?30194-Flatulence-is-an-quot-Obscene-Gesture-quot-in-Columbus-Ohio | Feb 16 15:35 |
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MinceR | schestowitz: some cartoon | Feb 16 15:35 |
schestowitz | oh | Feb 16 15:36 |
MinceR | what if the defendant claims that the plane of the ground represents part of the body the penis is attached to? :> | Feb 16 15:36 |
schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/90681813 | Feb 16 15:37 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @ÐÐ°Ñ Ð°ÑÐ¸Ñ Ð¡ÑÑÑгин (redxine)'s status on Thursday, 16-Feb-12 15:30:07 UTC - Identi.ca: Noooo!!!! :( new compositors better have an easy screenshot function >: ( besides [standard] Unity 3D is built with compiz... | Feb 16 15:37 |
schestowitz | MinceR: then it's art | Feb 16 15:37 |
DaemonFC | MinceR: I have seen snowmen before with various items for eyes and a nose that I moved down and rearranged | Feb 16 15:37 |
MinceR | :D | Feb 16 15:37 |
schestowitz | lol | Feb 16 15:38 |
schestowitz | did the snowman have a big package? | Feb 16 15:38 |
DaemonFC | yeah, but they're not supposed to be orange (carrot) | Feb 16 15:39 |
DaemonFC | I'd see a doctor about that | Feb 16 15:39 |
schestowitz | you could mely the snowman | Feb 16 15:39 |
schestowitz | only one part stays | Feb 16 15:39 |
schestowitz | the nose | Feb 16 15:40 |
DaemonFC | bbiab | Feb 16 15:40 |
schestowitz | nozzle | Feb 16 15:40 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] New Linux kernel fixes power-saving issues http://goo.gl/S7IXN #linux | Feb 16 15:47 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Red Hat Brings Gluster to Amazon Cloud http://goo.gl/QwRkj #redhat | Feb 16 15:49 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Assange protests UNESCO conference 'ban' | Hindu http://t.co/lQHxRStT #OccupyUNESCO | Feb 16 15:50 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Yeah, it's a problem with static files. Should be fixed now, although notices received during that period will fail. | Feb 16 15:57 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] ...and that looks about right. | Feb 16 15:57 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Rant - Ur doin' it right..... http://ur1.ca/87g0g #gnome #rant | Feb 16 15:57 | |
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schestowitz | "I run SL 6 on my work desktop, & it's a delight to use. Also installed it on my laptop for a few months, but encountered too many problems keeping the wifi going. " https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1304132 | Feb 16 15:58 |
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schestowitz | Red Hat | Feb 16 15:58 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Why didn't I find this one when I needed it a few weeks ago? http://ur1.ca/4vze0 | Feb 16 15:59 | |
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schestowitz | "I have to give this distro a try at some point. I installed CentOS in VBox and getting familiar with that, but SL seems to be grabbing my attention each time I hear about it. :" | Feb 16 16:00 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Online Copyright: EU Court of Justice Rules Out Private and Automatic #Censorship http://goo.gl/L6ttF #copyright | Feb 16 16:00 | |
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schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/90682944 | Feb 16 16:02 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @ÐÐ°Ñ Ð°ÑÐ¸Ñ Ð¡ÑÑÑгин (redxine)'s status on Thursday, 16-Feb-12 15:56:05 UTC - Identi.ca: I've enjoyed the work #KDE dev's put into features, but have always liked how GTK+ felt more lightweight... | Feb 16 16:02 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #fedora 17-Alpha.RC2 is out http://ur1.ca/87g5d #redhat | Feb 16 16:04 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] What To Expect In Kubuntu 12.04 http://ur1.ca/87g65 #kubuntu #kde | Feb 16 16:05 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] HP's CEO has just publicly confirmed that Android *is* open. Steve Jobs must be bending in his grave. #android #linux | Feb 16 16:07 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "This is the last straw - I'm stop reading #wired - they are spreading FUD about the gpl" http://ur1.ca/87g8m Cade to blame | Feb 16 16:09 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] #insightful - cc +Georg Zoche http://ur1.ca/87g95 | Feb 16 16:09 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] 3 awesome #CC @Kickstarter projects currently seeking funding at http://ur1.ca/3tuhl | Feb 16 16:12 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Red Hat, Rackspace Try To Be More Open In The Cloud http://goo.gl/ZMPxJ http://goo.gl/pI4C0 #redhat #fogComputing | Feb 16 16:14 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] `Window Applets`, Finally Available For GNOME 3 (Classic / Fallback) http://identi.ca/url/66693539 | Feb 16 16:15 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @wkpl: Pierwszy odcinek podcasta Wolne Granie z muzyką na wolnych licencjach jest w sieci! http://bit.ly/yIfF7S #cc #jamendo | Feb 16 16:15 | |
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koolhead17 | schestowitz http://yro.slashdot.org/story/12/02/16/1411232/indian-government-to-track-locations-of-all-cell-phone-users?utm_source=slashdot&utm_medium=twitter | Feb 16 16:16 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Sabayon Succumbs to Cinnamon's Irresistible Allure http://goo.gl/Yz4sZ #gnu #linux #gnome | Feb 16 16:17 | |
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schestowitz | koolhead17: same in the UK | Feb 16 16:18 |
schestowitz | drop your mobile phone | Feb 16 16:18 |
schestowitz | it's a tracking device which can also make calls and other stuff | Feb 16 16:18 |
koolhead17 | schestowitz they failed implementing UID in UK :) | Feb 16 16:18 |
schestowitz | by tracking I don't mean just location, comms too (they record and retain your personal life) | Feb 16 16:18 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] HP’s CEO Hallucinates http://ur1.ca/87gfv "What kind of an audience would accept this nonsense" | Feb 16 16:19 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Totally. Lovin. THIS. #GeekLove http://ur1.ca/87ggd | Feb 16 16:19 | |
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schestowitz | koolhead17: didn't India use some census-like propaganda to phase it in as "necessity"? | Feb 16 16:19 |
schestowitz | We almost had ID cards in the UK | Feb 16 16:19 |
schestowitz | It got scrapped when Labour went | Feb 16 16:19 |
koolhead17 | schestowitz i will take some other country citizenship if am forced to take it | Feb 16 16:20 |
koolhead17 | mobile yes in coming yrs i will | Feb 16 16:20 |
koolhead17 | :P | Feb 16 16:20 |
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DaemonFC | https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2012-February/162793.html | Feb 16 16:26 |
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DaemonFC | heh | Feb 16 16:26 |
DaemonFC | I'm not even sure most packages in a Linux distribution would build with LLVM | Feb 16 16:26 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] voted for "Sometimes, when the admin has not explicitly opted out" | Feb 16 16:27 | |
DaemonFC | https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2012-February/162809.html | Feb 16 16:28 |
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DaemonFC | it's not just the software rasterizer in Mesa that depends on LLVM | Feb 16 16:28 |
DaemonFC | it is THE shader compiler for pretty much everything that isn't Intel | Feb 16 16:29 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Now this should be using unhosted IMHO http://ur1.ca/87gm5 | Feb 16 16:29 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #ACTA: EU now under immense pressure from within and without to find an exit strategy - http://bit.ly/yuNPt4 NB comment about UK MPs... | Feb 16 16:30 | |
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DaemonFC | when they mention that you can build a Linux kernel with LLVM, that's technically true | Feb 16 16:31 |
DaemonFC | if you're real careful about what modules you build | Feb 16 16:31 |
DaemonFC | LLVM makes a decent JIT compiler | Feb 16 16:33 |
DaemonFC | that's what Mesa and Mono and several other projects use it for | Feb 16 16:34 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] 2 French #ACTA negotiators file criminal “complaint against unknown person” 4 press release issued by Act Up-Paris - http://bit.ly/wMz6au | Feb 16 16:35 | |
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DaemonFC | Apple will settle for inferior results just to get away from the GPL | Feb 16 16:36 |
DaemonFC | I don't expect that behavior out of Fedora | Feb 16 16:36 |
DaemonFC | the only reason Apple is moving to it now even though it really isn't ready is because GCC 4.2 is getting pretty crusty | Feb 16 16:36 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Lo scambio di email tra Assange e l'Unesco | La Repubblica http://t.co/ODNyWgDz | Feb 16 16:40 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] EU Trade Deal Could Cost Ontario $1.2 Billion Per Year From Higher Pharma Costs - http://bit.ly/AucWzA so why is #canada doing this? | Feb 16 16:42 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] State Chart XML (SCXML): State Machine Notation for Control Abstraction Draft Published http://ow.ly/1hqC01 | Feb 16 16:44 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] SOAP over Java Message Service 1.0 is a W3C Recommendation http://ow.ly/1hqC00 | Feb 16 16:44 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] anti-RWA petition, correct URL - http://bit.ly/zG9pG2 | Feb 16 16:44 | |
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schestowitz | [16:20] <koolhead17> mobile yes in coming yrs i will | Feb 16 16:44 |
schestowitz | They'll become harder to dodge | Feb 16 16:45 |
schestowitz | You can't buy PDAs anymore | Feb 16 16:45 |
schestowitz | They always come with "phone" 'feature'\ | Feb 16 16:45 |
koolhead17 | am using nokia 1100 currently | Feb 16 16:46 |
DaemonFC | dynamic power saving mode has improved on the free radeon driver | Feb 16 16:46 |
DaemonFC | it used to flicker the screen while reclocking my card | Feb 16 16:46 |
DaemonFC | making it so annoying that I gave up and switched it back to profile | Feb 16 16:46 |
MinceR | there are some PDAs available, but difficult to get | Feb 16 16:46 |
MinceR | Archos 43 IT, Pandora | Feb 16 16:46 |
MinceR | Nokia 7xx, N8xx Internet Tablets might still be available | Feb 16 16:47 |
DaemonFC | speaking of being green.... (and not getting raped on your electric bill) | Feb 16 16:47 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] MIT almost produces an optoelectronic computer chip | (ExtremeTech): http://bit.ly/xr315b | Feb 16 16:47 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] USians: would be good to contact your politicians to ask them to support the pro-#openaccess FRPAA - http://bit.ly/A2MN2Q (v @mrgunn) | Feb 16 16:47 | |
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MinceR | oh, and of course Samsung Galaxy Player | Feb 16 16:47 |
DaemonFC | the backlight setting on most monitors is actually quite usable at 50% | Feb 16 16:47 |
DaemonFC | (including mine) | Feb 16 16:47 |
MinceR | i'm not sure if you can put GNU/Linux on the Galaxy Player, though | Feb 16 16:48 |
DaemonFC | they jack it all the way up to burn out your retinas to impress customers at the store | Feb 16 16:48 |
MinceR | it might be worth a try to search pdadb.net | Feb 16 16:49 |
MinceR | (and of course none of them are marketed as "PDA"s nowadays) | Feb 16 16:49 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Documenting the mass surveillance tech companies & their authoritarian customers. First up: FinFisher & Amesys https://eff.org/r.S8D | Feb 16 16:55 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Amazon prepping 9-inch Kindle Fire for mid-2012 launch, report claims http://goo.gl/s7F7L #linux | Feb 16 16:55 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Oregon Scientific announces MEEP! Android tablet, aimed at kids http://goo.gl/P8cDK #android #linux | Feb 16 16:57 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[torproject/@torproject] Kazakhstan upgrades censorship to DPI: https://blog.torproject.org/blog/kazakhstan-upgrades-censorship-deep-packet-inspection | Feb 16 16:59 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @AnonyOps: In not allowing @WikiLeaks to attend conference *about* !WL, UNESCO tips its hat that this is a witch hunt. #OccupyUNESCO !bad | Feb 16 16:59 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Kazakhstan upgrades censorship to deep packet inspection | The Tor Blog .::. Size~: 16.52 KB | Feb 16 16:59 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Typosquatting sites ‘Wikapedia’ and ‘Twtter’ have been fined $300,000 by UK watchdog - http://tnw.co/xKwkZV nice teeth, there | Feb 16 17:00 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Auraslate Is An Open Source Android Tablet For Hackers - http://tcrn.ch/wObVCO nice | Feb 16 17:02 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Auraslate Is An Open Source Android Tablet For Hackers | TechCrunch .::. Size~: 53.58 KB | Feb 16 17:02 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] UNESCO *should* support !Wikileaks "...to further universal respect for justice... rule of law... human rights and fundamental freedoms..." | Feb 16 17:04 | |
DaemonFC | Kazakhstan, best censorship in all of worlds! | Feb 16 17:04 |
DaemonFC | High five! | Feb 16 17:04 |
schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Metztli_IT/status/170191127822086145?iid=am-74725293413294117016853569&nid=4+status_timestamp&uid=26603208 | Feb 16 17:04 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @Metztli_IT: ♺ @schestowitz #RedHat Brings Gluster to #AWS #Cloud http://t.co/ey6r7ZtG virtual #storage appliance is built on #OpenSource #GlusterFS | Feb 16 17:04 |
schestowitz | DaemonFC: is NICE | Feb 16 17:04 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] From encryption to darknets: As governments snoop, activists fight back - http://bit.ly/A7QRFI the inevitable arms race | Feb 16 17:05 | |
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DaemonFC | http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/opensource/rip-compiz/3402?tag=nl.e011 | Feb 16 17:06 |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: RIP Compiz | TechRepublic .::. Size~: 137.33 KB | Feb 16 17:06 |
DaemonFC | GNOME never dropped Compiz | Feb 16 17:06 |
DaemonFC | it was never officially supported | Feb 16 17:06 |
schestowitz | well, that's not journalism anyway | Feb 16 17:06 |
DaemonFC | churnalism? | Feb 16 17:07 |
schestowitz | rah rah rah! | Feb 16 17:07 |
DaemonFC | schestowitz: I checked the copyright and maintainer info on the "Unity"-like KDE plugins | Feb 16 17:09 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Who are the people USTR clears to see secret text for #TPPA IPR negotiation? - http://bit.ly/AtOcg1 not little people like you & me | Feb 16 17:09 | |
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DaemonFC | the icon-only task manager/launcher applet is part of KDE, upstream | Feb 16 17:09 |
DaemonFC | the global menu is from Canonical | Feb 16 17:09 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Cloud. Open. Red Hat. Good choice, Swisscom! Thanks! http://ur1.ca/87h9n | Feb 16 17:10 | |
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DaemonFC | wired, I used to read them all the time | Feb 16 17:11 |
DaemonFC | now they're jsut another outlet for Microsoft-promotion | Feb 16 17:11 |
DaemonFC | I remember back in like, 2000, they announced that they were redoing their entire site to be standards compliant | Feb 16 17:11 |
schestowitz | Not just Cad? | Feb 16 17:12 |
schestowitz | i saw just 2 artivcles there that play for MSFT | Feb 16 17:12 |
DaemonFC | it had devolved into a mess of noncompliant HTML that only worked right in IE | Feb 16 17:12 |
schestowitz | both same author... from The Registr | Feb 16 17:12 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Conferència sobre Wikileaks sense Wikileaks | ARA http://t.co/GiHvHVtn | Feb 16 17:12 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Re: public of the web - http://bit.ly/A9gh0K "how can #Mozilla fuel, bolster, cheer on and be a part of this rising internet public?" #ACTA | Feb 16 17:12 | |
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DaemonFC | I don't like what I see happening to Mozilla | Feb 16 17:13 |
DaemonFC | if they're all about free and open source software, and open standards, then why are they only focusing on Windows API and maybe tossing Linux users a bone if they use the Nvidia blob? | Feb 16 17:13 |
DaemonFC | as Chrome eats them alive, their revenue will shrink | Feb 16 17:14 |
DaemonFC | because every user that's using Chrome instead of Firefox is one less user that Google is paying Mozilla to redirect to them | Feb 16 17:14 |
DaemonFC | schestowitz: The last straw for me, with Wired, was their like 4 page long "article" about Bill Gates loving him some open source | Feb 16 17:16 |
DaemonFC | :) | Feb 16 17:16 |
DaemonFC | the Kindle is competition for the ipad | Feb 16 17:18 |
DaemonFC | both of them restrict what their user can run to a single app store | Feb 16 17:19 |
DaemonFC | the Kindle is not competition even for entry level Android tablets | Feb 16 17:19 |
DaemonFC | (which, btw, can run Kindle, Nook, and Google Books at once, wow!) | Feb 16 17:20 |
DaemonFC | http://www.muktware.com/articles/3312/what-expect-kubuntu-1204 | Feb 16 17:20 |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: What To Expect In Kubuntu 12.04 | Muktware .::. Size~: 31.97 KB | Feb 16 17:20 |
DaemonFC | - a better Calligra office suite with Krita | Feb 16 17:20 |
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DaemonFC | they need to kick LibreOffice to the curb | Feb 16 17:21 |
DaemonFC | and ship Calligra instead | Feb 16 17:21 |
DaemonFC | I'm baffled by Razor-Qt | Feb 16 17:22 |
DaemonFC | most Qt applications have dependencies on KDE | Feb 16 17:22 |
DaemonFC | though not all | Feb 16 17:22 |
DaemonFC | "Jonathan also wrote that Kubuntu may also include Plasma Active, the tablet UI of KDE." | Feb 16 17:23 |
DaemonFC | nice | Feb 16 17:23 |
schestowitz | yeah | Feb 16 17:23 |
schestowitz | [17:16] <DaemonFC> schestowitz: The last straw for me, with Wired, was their like 4 page long "article" about Bill Gates loving him some open source | Feb 16 17:24 |
schestowitz | Yes | Feb 16 17:24 |
schestowitz | same author | Feb 16 17:24 |
schestowitz | Cade Metz | Feb 16 17:24 |
schestowitz | those headline (latest one about :"Religion too) are too much like The Register | Feb 16 17:24 |
schestowitz | just provocations | Feb 16 17:24 |
DaemonFC | do they just expect people to not notice that Microsoft has spent the last 10+ years tryign to bury open source? | Feb 16 17:25 |
DaemonFC | now they're trying to tax it to death or convince projects like Mozilla to make it only work right on Windows | Feb 16 17:25 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Almost there. Keep em coming. http://ur1.ca/87hfa | Feb 16 17:25 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] At which age are boys supposed to discover their constructive talents? Growing concerned we're raising Attila the Hun & Ghengis Khan. ;) | Feb 16 17:25 | |
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schestowitz | DaemonFC: Microsoft doesn't love open source | Feb 16 17:26 |
schestowitz | it just wants to screw it | Feb 16 17:26 |
schestowitz | then it can dump it | Feb 16 17:26 |
fewt | I don't think they would dump it | Feb 16 17:26 |
schestowitz | see what they do to FOSS projects they "embrace" | Feb 16 17:26 |
fewt | they would make it attractive for users to use with windows | Feb 16 17:26 |
schestowitz | or Office | Feb 16 17:26 |
fewt | so people wouldn't want to not use Windows | Feb 16 17:26 |
fewt | _ | Feb 16 17:26 |
fewt | + | Feb 16 17:26 |
fewt | codeplex is an example of that | Feb 16 17:27 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Patent Beast Intellectual Ventures Sues AT&T - http://bit.ly/xhp8j9 so much for using its patents for innovation, not suing - yeah, right | Feb 16 17:27 | |
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DaemonFC | there's almost nothing on Codeplex that is useful by itself | Feb 16 17:27 |
DaemonFC | it's almost all plugins to some very expensive and proprietary Microsoft software | Feb 16 17:27 |
schestowitz | http://www.esecurityplanet.com/browser-security/google-chrome-17-improves-security.html | Feb 16 17:28 |
fewt | Most OSS tools that we all know and love have been ported to Windows | Feb 16 17:28 |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Google Chrome 17 Improves Security - eSecurity Planet .::. Size~: 51.39 KB | Feb 16 17:28 |
schestowitz | not privacy? | Feb 16 17:28 |
fewt | it de-values distributions based on Linux or BSD | Feb 16 17:28 |
DaemonFC | something that can't do anything at all on its own and only serves as a hook to proprietary software is not open source nor is it free software | Feb 16 17:28 |
DaemonFC | it doesn't devalue Linux when open source software puts lipstick on Microsoft's pig | Feb 16 17:29 |
fewt | Why go through the pain of installing a new OS when I can install LibreOffice, Pidgin, GIMP, Firefox, and everything else in Windows? | Feb 16 17:29 |
DaemonFC | A better question is "Why pay for an expensive Windows license next time around when all that software works on Linux?" | Feb 16 17:30 |
DaemonFC | that's why Microsoft works to undermine CROSS PLATFORM open source software | Feb 16 17:30 |
fewt | Is that really a valid question though? | Feb 16 17:30 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] No, it's deleting notices that's the problem. | Feb 16 17:30 | |
DaemonFC | sure | Feb 16 17:30 |
fewt | When most computers come with Windows? | Feb 16 17:31 |
DaemonFC | I've never opened a web page and had malicious software take over my computer with Linux | Feb 16 17:31 |
DaemonFC | but I have had it happen before with Windows | Feb 16 17:31 |
fewt | and computers sold towards the end of the OS lifecycle often include "free upgrade"? | Feb 16 17:31 |
DaemonFC | Windows has built in limitations to make you buy a more expensive license code | Feb 16 17:31 |
DaemonFC | that's not a free upgrade, it means the version is comes with is a placeholder to stop PC sales from dying in the mean time | Feb 16 17:32 |
fewt | I'm just trying to look at it objectively, looking for areas where I think we should try to show more value. :D | Feb 16 17:32 |
DaemonFC | and when the user gets the new version, it's a pain in the ass to install | Feb 16 17:32 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] You know how they win hearts and minds? If they make ROMs that work on existing Android tablets and phones. Not through FUD. | Feb 16 17:32 | |
DaemonFC | and their peripherals and software may no longer work right with it | Feb 16 17:32 |
fewt | Trying to view it through the eyes of someone that isn't a geek like us. | Feb 16 17:32 |
DaemonFC | if they didn't frame it as a free upgrade, then PC sales woudl take a nose dive as soon as people thought a new Windows release was imminent | Feb 16 17:33 |
fewt | Which is why it makes sense that they do. | Feb 16 17:33 |
fewt | From a business perspective, it makes a lot of sense. | Feb 16 17:34 |
fewt | How do you compete with "free" | Feb 16 17:34 |
fewt | offer something "free" | Feb 16 17:34 |
DaemonFC | I'd rather just avoid expensive and unnecessary upsells | Feb 16 17:34 |
DaemonFC | like anything since Windows 2000 has been | Feb 16 17:34 |
fewt | because a non-geek doesn't know the difference of libre vs gratis | Feb 16 17:34 |
DaemonFC | it takes very little work for them to release more or less the same thing every few years | Feb 16 17:35 |
DaemonFC | and switch the theme around a bit to make it look new | Feb 16 17:35 |
DaemonFC | aside from some very minor evolutionary changes that took way too long and a huge layer of excess crap, it's still Windows 2000 | Feb 16 17:36 |
DaemonFC | as far as I'm concerned, that was the last major improvement they made to Windows | Feb 16 17:36 |
fewt | I think XP service pack 3 was greater than 2K | Feb 16 17:37 |
DaemonFC | sure it takes 10 times the resources now | Feb 16 17:37 |
DaemonFC | what does it do for me that it wasn't doing before? | Feb 16 17:37 |
DaemonFC | nothing! | Feb 16 17:37 |
fewt | because that's where they rewrote much of the OS to be more resilient towards malware. | Feb 16 17:37 |
DaemonFC | oh, but they want to sell you it over and over | Feb 16 17:37 |
DaemonFC | and make you buy new PCs | Feb 16 17:37 |
DaemonFC | Microsoft's business model is kind of like the RIAA and MPAA's | Feb 16 17:38 |
DaemonFC | selling you the same thing multiple times | Feb 16 17:38 |
DaemonFC | forcing incompatibilities so you can't stay on the old format | Feb 16 17:38 |
fewt | I don't have an opinion on that. | Feb 16 17:38 |
DaemonFC | as far as I'm concerned, I have a right to a copy of any movie I ever bought | Feb 16 17:38 |
fewt | I agree | Feb 16 17:39 |
DaemonFC | including VHS tapes that have worn out | Feb 16 17:39 |
fewt | yes | Feb 16 17:39 |
fewt | You have an archival right. | Feb 16 17:39 |
DaemonFC | I think it's pathetic that they've started pulling this shit with iTunes | Feb 16 17:40 |
fewt | I don't use itunes | Feb 16 17:40 |
fewt | actually, I'm about to put my old iphone 3g on ebay | Feb 16 17:40 |
DaemonFC | where you buy music and then if you want the DRM to come off, you have to buy the files all over again | Feb 16 17:40 |
DaemonFC | then if you want a copy at a higher bitrate? | Feb 16 17:40 |
DaemonFC | BUY IT AGAIN | Feb 16 17:40 |
fewt | I installed it long enough to flash it to factory, and now it's going away. | Feb 16 17:40 |
DaemonFC | what a bunch of fucking parasites | Feb 16 17:40 |
DaemonFC | right? | Feb 16 17:40 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[torproject/@torproject] Tor Weather provides an email notification service to those who want to monitor the status of a #Tor relay: https://weather.torproject.org/ | Feb 16 17:40 | |
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fewt | I buy music at Amazon | Feb 16 17:40 |
DaemonFC | Amazon is a far better deal than iTunes | Feb 16 17:41 |
fewt | via banshee if possible | Feb 16 17:41 |
DaemonFC | so is 7digital for that matter | Feb 16 17:41 |
iophk | http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/12/gps-data | Feb 16 17:41 |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Feds 'Pinged' Sprint GPS Data 8 Million Times Over a Year | Threat Level | Wired.com .::. Size~: 59.88 KB | Feb 16 17:41 |
DaemonFC | at least the patents on MP3 decoding will expire within the next several years | Feb 16 17:41 |
DaemonFC | you'll never have the unfettered right to play files you got off iTunes | Feb 16 17:42 |
fewt | You can get a free distributable MP3 codec license | Feb 16 17:42 |
DaemonFC | unless you wait until the 2030s | Feb 16 17:42 |
fewt | I have one for Fuduntu | Feb 16 17:42 |
DaemonFC | I don't recognize those patents | Feb 16 17:43 |
DaemonFC | and I'm not installing proprietary "freeware" just to get a license to something I don't recognize as legitimate | Feb 16 17:43 |
DaemonFC | I use Gstreamer's MAD plugin when I need to decode an MP3 | Feb 16 17:44 |
DaemonFC | fuck the US government | Feb 16 17:44 |
DaemonFC | fuck the MPEG-lA | Feb 16 17:44 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #RaspberryPi benchmarked against Beagleboard, low price is long term http://goo.gl/r00Vs #linux | Feb 16 17:44 | |
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DaemonFC | fuck them with a rusty pipe | Feb 16 17:44 |
DaemonFC | :) | Feb 16 17:44 |
fewt | That's a little extreme lol | Feb 16 17:44 |
DaemonFC | there's entirely too much rent seeking going on there | Feb 16 17:45 |
DaemonFC | fewt: OK, I'll compromise with you | Feb 16 17:45 |
DaemonFC | bring me the sons of bitches that run the MPEG LA | Feb 16 17:45 |
DaemonFC | and we can.... | Feb 16 17:45 |
DaemonFC | crucify them | Feb 16 17:45 |
DaemonFC | :) | Feb 16 17:45 |
DaemonFC | better? | Feb 16 17:45 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] pre-order registration for Spark is live now on http://makeplaylive.com ... http://ur1.ca/87hux | Feb 16 17:45 | |
DaemonFC | good | Feb 16 17:45 |
DaemonFC | :) | Feb 16 17:45 |
DaemonFC | that's who needs to go to prison | Feb 16 17:46 |
fewt | lol | Feb 16 17:46 |
DaemonFC | Charles Manson, Chris Dodd, and the people that run the MPEG-LA | Feb 16 17:46 |
DaemonFC | When I am king, I will serve Chris Dodd notice to butter up his cornhole | Feb 16 17:47 |
DaemonFC | because he's going to federal prison | Feb 16 17:47 |
DaemonFC | vote for me | Feb 16 17:47 |
DaemonFC | :) | Feb 16 17:47 |
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schestowitz | Farmer for president? | Feb 16 17:48 |
DaemonFC | under my regime, any politician that has taken money from them, gets to go to prison with them | Feb 16 17:49 |
DaemonFC | KING | Feb 16 17:49 |
schestowitz | iophk: maybe they just watch out for children /sarcasm | Feb 16 17:49 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Mozilla's #Boot2Gecko mobile platform and Gaia UI - bit.ly/xwD2Uc excellent intro to exciting #linux-based project | Feb 16 17:49 | |
schestowitz | DaemonFC: like a boss | Feb 16 17:49 |
DaemonFC | seize their assets and deport them all to Mexico | Feb 16 17:50 |
DaemonFC | fuck, I don't know | Feb 16 17:50 |
DaemonFC | just get rid of them | Feb 16 17:50 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] W3C Opens Office in Russia http://ow.ly/1hqFR4 | Feb 16 17:50 | |
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DaemonFC | I like how Bill Hicks put it | Feb 16 17:51 |
DaemonFC | He said he figures that each new president gets taken into a room with all these rich business criminals | Feb 16 17:51 |
DaemonFC | and gets shown a tape of the Kennedy assassination | Feb 16 17:52 |
DaemonFC | from an angle never seen by the public | Feb 16 17:52 |
DaemonFC | "What's that? Bomb Iraq? Right on it!" | Feb 16 17:52 |
schestowitz | LOL | Feb 16 17:53 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] erf.. seems traffic has crushed the server. crazy. need to bring in more capacity apparently. crazy. another late night. | Feb 16 17:54 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Indian Government To Track Locations of All Cell Phone Users - http://bit.ly/yv0ybY 1st censorship, now this: not good #india | Feb 16 17:54 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Heartland Feels The Heat Over #AntiScience Climate Change Strategy - http://onforb.es/xQLKpe great slapdown #denialism | Feb 16 17:57 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Tim Cook: I don’t really think anything Microsoft does puts pressure on Apple - http://tnw.co/xmBENy ouch #hasbeen | Feb 16 17:59 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] L'Unesco non invita Wikileaks | Feb 16 18:00 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Microsoft licensing hike sparks UK piracy, bankruptcy fears - http://bit.ly/Ac8ptg 35% hike? looks like a good time to switch to #opensource | Feb 16 18:02 | |
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iophk | From here it looks like M$ has plenty of influence on Apple | Feb 16 18:05 |
iophk | http://venturebeat.com/2011/09/03/icloud-azure-amazon/ | Feb 16 18:05 |
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iophk | let's not forget ODF support (or lack thereof) too | Feb 16 18:05 |
iophk | Same with ties to MS VPNs and groupware | Feb 16 18:06 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Open source at the movies http://ur1.ca/85qhj #film | Feb 16 18:07 | |
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schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1303997 "I can't find oxygen-transparent in the themes selection > Get New Themes (on Debian testing). Did you install it manually? " | Feb 16 18:13 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Feb 16 18:13 |
schestowitz | "I can't find oxygen-transparent in the Window Decorations > Get New Decorations (on Debian testing). Did you install it manually? " | Feb 16 18:13 |
schestowitz | " | Feb 16 18:13 |
schestowitz | I'm using Kubuntu and got it from a PPA. " " Building it from source now. " | Feb 16 18:13 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] GLAMcamp DC kicks off U.S. coordination of @Wikipedia efforts around cultural heritage projects: http://bit.ly/AAhs8l @glamwiki #glamwiki | Feb 16 18:17 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] ok, adjusted some server resources, seems to be back to life.. whew! | Feb 16 18:17 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Today noone liked me. #mysuckylife http://ur1.ca/87iby | Feb 16 18:19 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] RT @aseigo pre-order registration for Spark is live now on http://makeplaylive.com ... http://ur1.ca/87hux | Feb 16 18:24 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] that is what they depend on, even having a "connection manager" bash script but it messed up ny network manager big time | Feb 16 18:25 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] now I cannot use my network manager applet at all! | Feb 16 18:27 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] Not really, my coffee is some harsh stuff, I am only in it for the caffeine hence need sugar to swallow it ... usually | Feb 16 18:29 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] #nuffsaid. Megauncool. Pun intended. http://ur1.ca/87ijk | Feb 16 18:29 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] It has been known to happen. read poverty activist Julian Ichim's blog http://julianichim.wordpress.com/ | Feb 16 18:29 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] "Tae Kwon Do in your face, baby" http://ur1.ca/87iju | Feb 16 18:29 | |
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abushcrafterforg | PDA = Nano Note | Feb 16 18:36 |
schestowitz | "Compiled and installed it, switched widget style and window decorations to oxygen-transparent, but I don't get that kind of darkish look as in the screenshot at all. Looks like regular oxygen. " https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1303997 | Feb 16 18:39 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] I'm just tired of being attacked by you @vanden ... go troll somebody else. | Feb 16 18:45 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Thanks. I'll look at it later. (Have to get back to formatting now. :) | Feb 16 18:45 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] good evening @sandersch !tzag | Feb 16 18:47 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] http://bit.ly/x1EPaZ | Feb 16 18:49 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Assange denuncia | Feb 16 18:50 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] @nj3ma Just in case you are still into that isht, I've had a jabber account for a while now | Feb 16 18:52 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] How Do We Know #Piracy Isn't Really A Big Issue? Because Media Companies Haven't Needed To Change As A Result - http://bit.ly/x1EPaZ | Feb 16 18:52 | |
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fewt | How do we know business isn't really a big issue? Because Pirates are staying out at sea. ARGH :) | Feb 16 18:53 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] #nuffsaid http://ur1.ca/87j2e | Feb 16 18:54 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Chakra KDE |With screenshots Tour http://ur1.ca/87j3r | Feb 16 18:57 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Wer braucht eigentlich noch ACTA wenn in Deutschland die GEMA eh dafür sorgt das wir im Tal der Ahnungslosen vegetier... http://b1t.it/aQLG | Feb 16 18:59 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] What people think Spock does and what Spock really does (Frankenstein Jones): http://on.fb.me/yJI05I | Feb 16 19:00 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] UNESCO bans WikiLeaks from international conference on WikiLeaks | DT http://t.co/UBHISgDE | Feb 16 19:00 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Linux: Where the Jobs (and Bigger Salaries) Are http://ur1.ca/87j8a... http://b1t.it/aQLW | Feb 16 19:05 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] logging off to finish formatting ... got fonts embedded... whoopeee! !InconstantMoon | Feb 16 19:09 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 10 years after famous #Slashdot marriage proposal, couple discusses wisdom of 'popping the question' in public http://goo.gl/de94L #sd | Feb 16 19:10 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] A New `Locally Integrated Menubar` Might Land In Ubuntu 12.04 http://goo.gl/DbVeh #ubuntu | Feb 16 19:14 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] 'Colbert Report' off air; network offers no explanation http://identi.ca/url/66701600 | Feb 16 19:20 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 10 Pentesting Linux Distributions You Should Try http://ur1.ca/86wt6 #linux | Feb 16 19:20 | |
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schestowitz | DaemonFC: "change your color scheme " well, duh :-) :-) https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1303997 | Feb 16 19:21 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Spark pre-order registration is open! http://ur1.ca/87hux #kde #tablet | Feb 16 19:24 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] no, of course... | Feb 16 19:29 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Dear VC folks, can we get a pledge from you to make all code from failed startups Open Source so others can reuse code... http://b1t.it/aQML | Feb 16 19:29 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] yes, that's true - assuming they have full control and the logs | Feb 16 19:29 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] no idea, but details will doubtless emerge | Feb 16 19:30 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Lèse majesté trial of Prachatai editor @jiew wraps up. The verdict will be announced April 30th - https://eff.org/r.S9E #freejiew | Feb 16 19:30 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Halting dent destruction to give @bkuhn reasonable time to make copies. Dent destruction to resume RSN. | Feb 16 19:34 | |
MinceR | more lies from fascists >> http://i.imgur.com/EVDpV.jpg | Feb 16 19:34 |
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MinceR | allegedly it's a fake, actually | Feb 16 19:35 |
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MinceR | http://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/psalj/a_bomb_wont_go_off_here/ | Feb 16 19:36 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Is this fake? http://ur1.ca/87jyp [IMG] | Feb 16 19:39 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] YES! "Präsidenten-Affäre: Staatsanwaltschaft beantragt Aufhebung von Wulffs Immunität" - http://ur1.ca/87jz2... http://b1t.it/aQM1 | Feb 16 19:39 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] The future is a RESTful Drupal (Dries Buytaert): http://bit.ly/xCvaDV | Feb 16 19:40 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] A decade after the #BOAI: #OpenAccess academic publishing is more successful than ever, but it faces challenges - https://eff.org/r.S7F | Feb 16 19:42 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: A Decade of Open Access (And the Challenges Ahead) | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 32.47 KB | Feb 16 19:42 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Thursday's security updates http://ur1.ca/87k8k | Feb 16 19:50 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Introducing Comice OS 4: The Mac-Looking Linux http://goo.gl/qcxLD #apple #osux #linux #gnu | Feb 16 19:50 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Controlling Liquor Loss with #Linux http://ur1.ca/87k8q #booze | Feb 16 19:50 | |
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DaemonFC | uhhhm | Feb 16 19:52 |
DaemonFC | MinceR: The stupid.....it burns | Feb 16 19:53 |
DaemonFC | :) | Feb 16 19:53 |
DaemonFC | A bomb won't go off here because Chris Dodd is a little more obscenely rich? | Feb 16 19:53 |
DaemonFC | I don't get it | Feb 16 19:53 |
fewt | Comice OS 4, I don't know what they are trying to achieve there other than a lawsuit. | Feb 16 19:53 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] :-) http://ur1.ca/87kbi | Feb 16 19:54 | |
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DaemonFC | MinceR: A bomb won't go off here, because anti-terrorism funds are going to pay overweight cops to write speeding tickets. | Feb 16 19:55 |
DaemonFC | hooray, speeding tickets | Feb 16 19:55 |
DaemonFC | is that photoshopped? | Feb 16 19:56 |
DaemonFC | it seems like a stretch, even for them | Feb 16 19:56 |
MinceR | apparently it is shopped | Feb 16 19:57 |
schestowitz | gimped :> | Feb 16 20:00 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] How can the layman get involved with FOSS? http://ur1.ca/87kgf | Feb 16 20:00 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is sandersch from identi.ca with 93 dents! | Feb 16 20:00 | |
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schestowitz | was the gimp logged shopped of gimped (chicken and egg)? | Feb 16 20:01 |
schestowitz | *logo | Feb 16 20:01 |
MinceR | not really a chicken and egg thing | Feb 16 20:02 |
MinceR | the first release that had a logo had to be sufficiently working to create the first logo, and it didn't need to have the logo integrated prior to release | Feb 16 20:02 |
MinceR | (tl;dr: gimp can be fully functional without a logo) | Feb 16 20:03 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Hank @Shocklee, Dan Friel @dfrieldfriel, & guest DJs at the @EFF SXSW Mashup Party! Music Tech Policy Unite: https://eff.org/sxsw | Feb 16 20:04 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Truth. http://ur1.ca/87kjw http://ur1.ca/87kjx | Feb 16 20:04 | |
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DaemonFC | https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2012-February/162847.html | Feb 16 20:04 |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Apple will use LLVM .::. Size~: 3.9 KB | Feb 16 20:04 |
MinceR | http://geekandpoke.typepad.com/geekandpoke/2011/05/in-the-aftermath-of-locationgate.html | Feb 16 20:04 |
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DaemonFC | FreeBSD will save us? | Feb 16 20:04 |
DaemonFC | Jesus, are we that fucked? | Feb 16 20:04 |
DaemonFC | lol | Feb 16 20:04 |
DaemonFC | FreeBSD developers are basically just meatpuppets for whatever Apple wants | Feb 16 20:05 |
MinceR | wait, what? fedora wants to depend on llvm? why? | Feb 16 20:06 |
DaemonFC | and the parts of their system that I care about resemble where Linux was about 5-6 years ago | Feb 16 20:06 |
MinceR | and yes, crApple is that fucked, and it's by their own choice | Feb 16 20:06 |
DaemonFC | it would be nice if GCC became a decent just in time compiler | Feb 16 20:07 |
DaemonFC | and we could forget about using LLVM at all | Feb 16 20:07 |
DaemonFC | but right now, it really sucks in that role | Feb 16 20:07 |
DaemonFC | it's not like the situation is dire, people who don't hate the GPL can use whichever is most appropriate for a given case | Feb 16 20:08 |
DaemonFC | Apple and their meatpuppets are the only ones trying to get LLVM to compile an operating system for them | Feb 16 20:09 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Wulff war der erste Groupon-Präsident, sozusagen. Schnäppchenjäger kling mir zu '95 :-) | Feb 16 20:10 | |
DaemonFC | I'd like to know where they get off saying the GPL 3 is killing GCC | Feb 16 20:11 |
DaemonFC | GCC development hasn't slowed down at all | Feb 16 20:12 |
DaemonFC | most of the companies that contribute to GCC don't care about the particulars of the GPL, they want software that works better for them | Feb 16 20:12 |
DaemonFC | contributing to GCC is just a means to an end | Feb 16 20:13 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Despite its name change, online surveillance bill continues to receive huge backlash in Canada https://eff.org/r.S8M #stopspying #c30 | Feb 16 20:14 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Microsoft investe 800 mil euros para ajudar PME a aceder a fundos - Jornalnegócios http://goo.gl/Nv8A6 ou como chular o contribuinte | Feb 16 20:14 | |
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schestowitz | can you compile the latest gcc with the very latest gcc? | Feb 16 20:14 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Goldman Analyst Is Said to Face Insider Trading Inquiry http://goo.gl/bEqiS expensive #fraud | Feb 16 20:15 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Goldman Analyst Is Said to Face Insider Trading Inquiry - NYTimes.com .::. Size~: 68.25 KB | Feb 16 20:15 |
DaemonFC | uhhhm, sure? | Feb 16 20:15 |
DaemonFC | https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2012-February/162859.html | Feb 16 20:16 |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Apple will use LLVM .::. Size~: 3.14 KB | Feb 16 20:16 |
DaemonFC | "Bugs have been filed with LLVM for well over a year, and they are aware of the unresolved LLVM issues preventing kernel builds." | Feb 16 20:16 |
DaemonFC | Because Apple doesn't care if LLVM compiles a Linux kernel | Feb 16 20:16 |
schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/90684406 | Feb 16 20:18 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @Gabriel Saldana (gabrielsaldana)'s status on Thursday, 16-Feb-12 16:28:16 UTC - Identi.ca: @gnutek absolutely, this software makes me cry and I've read only to page 3 of the docs | Feb 16 20:18 |
schestowitz | http://www.cloudtweaks.com/2012/02/are-the-big-players-being-hypocritical-on-cloud-computing-standards/ | Feb 16 20:19 |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Are The Big Players Being Hypocritical On Cloud Computing Standards? | CloudTweaks.com - Cloud Computing Community .::. Size~: 68.01 KB | Feb 16 20:19 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] Ran into the first #shortcoming of @orangekenya 21Mbps net today, went out of coverage area and speeds dropped! coverage is limited | Feb 16 20:20 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @lnxwalt @piwik As an open source project, you should have an account on one or more FOSS #socnets . #Identica is a great place to be. | Feb 16 20:20 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @eximious Need more coffee. | Feb 16 20:20 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] First look: Mozilla's Boot2Gecko mobile platform and Gaia UI http://goo.gl/veiGM #mozilla #gecko | Feb 16 20:22 | |
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DaemonFC | it's generally a bad idea to even attempt to run a Fedora pre-release until they've turned off the kernel debugging features | Feb 16 20:22 |
DaemonFC | those take a sizable bite out of the performance you can expect to get from the kernel, across the board | Feb 16 20:23 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @openattitude If anyone's interested, I've updated my post on the Meizu MX (it was missing a photo): http://bit.ly/ABR8e7 !android | Feb 16 20:24 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @paviles First look: Mozilla's Boot2Gecko Mobile Platform and Gaia UI http://ow.ly/1hqRB9 | Feb 16 20:24 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Hands-on in Hong Kong with the Meizu MX. | Open attitude. .::. Size~: 29.6 KB | Feb 16 20:24 |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: First Look: Mozilla's Boot2Gecko Mobile Platform and Gaia UI | Webmonkey | Wired.com .::. Size~: 57.98 KB | Feb 16 20:24 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Sabayon 8 Screenshots http://ur1.ca/87kw8 #linux | Feb 16 20:27 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Sabayon 8 Screenshots | Linux, BSD, Solaris & Other OS Screenshots | The Leader in Linux, BSD, Solaris & Other OS Screenshots | Screen Shots of Linux Distributions, BSD, Solaris & Other OSes | Linux, BSD, Solaris & Other OS Screenshot Gallery .::. Size~: 29.21 KB | Feb 16 20:27 |
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DaemonFC | Sabayon comes with FGLRX and if you want rid of it, there's this whole process that would make Rube Golberg proud | Feb 16 20:30 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Comice OS 4 Screenshot Tour http://ur1.ca/87ky4 #gnu #linux | Feb 16 20:30 | |
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DaemonFC | oh, not only do they toss in nonfree drivers, they don't bother including AMD Control Center | Feb 16 20:31 |
DaemonFC | so there's no way to tweak it or turn on triple buffering so it doesn't tear | Feb 16 20:31 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] How Much Would Debian Cost to Develop? How About $19 Billion? (Read Write Web): http://rww.to/zgiI4p | Feb 16 20:34 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #AppMenu Runner: HUD-Like Functionality For #KDE http://ur1.ca/87l3e | Feb 16 20:37 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Netrunner 4.1 version (32/64bit) http://ur1.ca/80fh8 #gnu #linux | Feb 16 20:37 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: AppMenu Runner: HUD-Like Functionality For KDE ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog .::. Size~: 63.08 KB | Feb 16 20:37 |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Netrunner 4.1 version (32/64bit) .::. Size~: 37.56 KB | Feb 16 20:37 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] #Wulff war der erste Groupon-Präsident, sozusagen. Schnäppchenjäger kling mir zu '95 :-) | Feb 16 20:39 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Stella 6.2 Test 12 Screen Captures http://ur1.ca/87l82 | Feb 16 20:44 | |
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schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/90695860 | Feb 16 20:47 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @ØاÙØ© foonetic (lnxwalt280) (lnxwalt280) ÙÙ ÙÙÙ Thursday, 16-Feb-12 20:35:22 UTC - 280: @schestowitz Downloaded #Sabayon 8 KDE yesterday. Will install today. | Feb 16 20:47 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] #Wulff tritt zurück in 10 ... 9 ... 8 ... 7 ... #JedeWette | Feb 16 20:49 | |
DaemonFC | https://www.readwriteweb.com/hack/2012/02/firefox-roadmap-for-2012-calls.php | Feb 16 20:49 |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Firefox Roadmap for 2012 Calls for Chrome Catch-up and Better Privacy Tools .::. Size~: 47.68 KB | Feb 16 20:49 |
DaemonFC | "The Mozilla folks are also planning to add a Chrome migration tool" to help the millions of users fleeing Firefox to go TO Chrome? | Feb 16 20:50 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Comparison Test: #LinuxMint 12 "Lisa" #KDE vs. #Netrunner 4.1 "Dryland" http://goo.gl/7uxyX #gnu #linux | Feb 16 20:50 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Das U-Blog by Prashanth: Comparison Test: Linux Mint 12 "Lisa" KDE vs. Netrunner 4.1 "Dryland" .::. Size~: 113.02 KB | Feb 16 20:50 |
DaemonFC | :) | Feb 16 20:51 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Choosing a #SHTF Dog - YouTube http://goo.gl/7Wfqr #preppers | Feb 16 20:59 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] From @wethepeople: Lower the national debt by expanding the government's use of free software | http://ow.ly/97m8f #opengov | Feb 16 20:59 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Choosing a SHTF Dog - YouTube .::. Size~: 143.76 KB | Feb 16 20:59 |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Lower the national debt by expanding the government's use of Free Software such as GNU/Linux and LibreOffice. | The White House .::. Size~: 63.81 KB | Feb 16 20:59 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] RSA keys not as random as they should be (The H) http://ur1.ca/87ljo | Feb 16 21:05 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @schestowitz Comparison Test: #LinuxMint 12 "Lisa" #KDE vs. #Netrunner 4.1 "Dryland" http://goo.gl/7uxyX #gnu #linux | Feb 16 21:10 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Das U-Blog by Prashanth: Comparison Test: Linux Mint 12 "Lisa" KDE vs. Netrunner 4.1 "Dryland" .::. Size~: 113.02 KB | Feb 16 21:10 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #SolusOS 049 Screen Shots http://ur1.ca/87lo9 #gnu #linux | Feb 16 21:15 | |
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schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/90697155 | Feb 16 21:16 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @ÐÐ°Ñ Ð°ÑÐ¸Ñ Ð¡ÑÑÑгин (redxine)'s status on Thursday, 16-Feb-12 21:09:53 UTC - Identi.ca: ... if not then the British transport police must really love short-circuit logical fallacies. | Feb 16 21:16 |
schestowitz | "Thanks, that's better. Integrating it with GTK programs however is trickier, since they just ignore this transparency." https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1303997 | Feb 16 21:18 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Feb 16 21:18 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] If Cameron believes these powers are good for #Scotland, why use it as a bribe? Wait, it worked short term for #Blair http://gu.com/p/35gtg | Feb 16 21:19 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Cameron offers Scotland more powers if it votes no to independence | Politics | The Guardian .::. Size~: 305.95 KB | Feb 16 21:19 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] "if you do what we want and leave us in charge, we'll throw you a few extra crumbs from our table" #Tories #Cameron | Feb 16 21:20 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #NewsInternational needs to decontaminate the #Sun brand http://gu.com/p/35gkb | Feb 16 21:27 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] A corrosive tax abuse in the health department http://gu.com/p/35gkv | Feb 16 21:27 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Work for free and 'be of benefit' to a multinational like #Tesco http://gu.com/p/35gh7 | Feb 16 21:27 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: News International needs to decontaminate the Sun brand | Brian Cathcart | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 253.49 KB | Feb 16 21:27 |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: A corrosive tax abuse in the health department | Richard Murphy | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 274.01 KB | Feb 16 21:27 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Civic life and law must bind us, not ritual and religion http://gu.com/p/35gqy | Feb 16 21:29 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Civic life and law must bind us, not ritual and religion | Polly Toynbee | Comment is free | The Guardian .::. Size~: 275.83 KB | Feb 16 21:29 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] Yaani nilikuwa nimesahau aje #Hung? #nowdownloading | Feb 16 21:30 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Whitehall tax schemes: biting the hand that feeds http://gu.com/p/35hvm | Feb 16 21:30 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Whitehall tax schemes: biting the hand that feeds | Comment is free | The Guardian .::. Size~: 172.38 KB | Feb 16 21:30 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Parsix GNU/Linux 3.7r2 Is Available for Download http://goo.gl/Am6vO #Parsix | Feb 16 21:34 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] W3C Opens Office in Russia: http://bit.ly/xgZrll | Feb 16 21:35 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Apache approves the Red Hat-originated Deltacloud as a Top-Level Project (InfoWorld): http://bit.ly/wswUtD | Feb 16 21:39 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Apache embraces cloud with Deltacloud approval | Open Source Software - InfoWorld .::. Size~: 92.35 KB | Feb 16 21:39 |
DaemonFC | http://content.usatoday.com/communities/onpolitics/post/2012/02/foster-friess-bayer-aspirin-contraceptives-santorum-/1#.Tz14NNzxBhE | Feb 16 21:42 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Torrone: The {Unspoken} Rules of Open Source Hardware http://ur1.ca/87m7s | Feb 16 21:45 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] AV 5.0.3 Screenshots http://ur1.ca/87m99 #gnu #linux | Feb 16 21:45 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Frugalware 1.6 http://ur1.ca/87mb2 #gnu #linux | Feb 16 21:47 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[freemjd/@freemjd] Fingers Crossed http://ur1.ca/87mb0 What the 80's should have sounded like. !Jamendo !ccmusic #BY-NC-SA | Feb 16 21:47 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Frugalware 1.6 Comes With Cinnamon and Firefox 10 - Softpedia .::. Size~: 47.36 KB | Feb 16 21:47 |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Royalty Free music downloads: Fingers Crossed | Jamendo - Jamendo .::. Size~: 71.7 KB | Feb 16 21:47 |
schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/90698577 | Feb 16 21:49 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @Jenny Ondioline (dothidden)'s status on Thursday, 16-Feb-12 21:43:01 UTC - Identi.ca: WT_F!? | Feb 16 21:49 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Só me apetece cobrir!: Os senhores da guerra (Parte 1) http://goo.gl/99foc #iran vs #usa #uk | Feb 16 21:50 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @zahra Who wants me to follow her/him? (Female preferably!) :-P !Identica !Identiverse | Feb 16 21:54 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @tomsky So instead of doing the essay for tomorrow I'm arguing with mac users on Facebook. Why do I always do this to my self | Feb 16 21:57 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] Yes, Why indeed? | Feb 16 21:57 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @patrickniedzielski Because they're wrong. | Feb 16 21:59 | |
schestowitz | DaemonFC: "What color scheme was used in the screenshot btw?" https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1303997 | Feb 16 22:02 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Feb 16 22:02 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @glynmoody How Do We Know #Piracy Isn't Really A Big Issue? Because Media Companies Haven't Needed To Change As A Result - http://bit ... | Feb 16 22:07 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Narrative Science Uses Twitter To Create Automated Stories (AllThingsD): http://dthin.gs/wQZNfo | Feb 16 22:14 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] SSDs have a 'bleak' future, researchers say - Computerworld http://bit.ly/zm6C7G | Feb 16 22:17 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @x11r5: @mvdan Every time i read that as "trolling". Whoops. No idea about debian packaging today. Fun fact: it's better than advertising | Feb 16 22:17 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Bank of America transforms man's one hundred dollar check in to $3.3 million http://identi.ca/url/66709673 | Feb 16 22:20 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] 'Typosquatting' premium rate phone firms fined £100,000 http://goo.gl/2HJRm only £100,00? #toothless #crimepays | Feb 16 22:20 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] Original: Accessibility Leaders in Linux bit.ly/wIEQhT #linux | Feb 16 22:20 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Jury awards $3.3 million to man wrongfully detained in Aventura bank scare - Aventura / Sunny Isles - MiamiHerald.com .::. Size~: 91.94 KB | Feb 16 22:20 |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: BBC News - 'Typosquatting' premium rate phone firms fined £100,000 .::. Size~: 65.57 KB | Feb 16 22:21 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] But that would only encourage that type of behavior and I don't think the world needs fanatics, apple users included | Feb 16 22:24 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] Q: What do you get when combining famous quotes "All it takes for the triumph of evil..." and "Lord protect me from my friends..." ? | Feb 16 22:25 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] A: "All it takes for the triumph of evil is for the champions of good to be morons." | Feb 16 22:25 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] Ran into yet another person who thinks you *must* use the command line interface to install software on linux | Feb 16 22:27 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] RT @gabrielsaldana how to identify #HTML5 http://i.imgur.com/2Kq6Y.jpg | Feb 16 22:29 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] I thought housing in Berlin was cheap and plentiful. Am I living in a fantasy world? | Feb 16 22:29 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] He justified it by stating "I have used Linux for a long time" all I could think was "...and you never found the graphical package manager?" | Feb 16 22:29 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Really? Did you get to the hammer part yet? | Feb 16 22:29 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Yes, that's exactly why I'm building it. I'd like to see more such search systems. Could MediaGoblin ping by default, too? | Feb 16 22:30 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Directors Guild Boss Insists That Everyone Against SOPA/PIPA Was Duped http://goo.gl/Uijkj | Feb 16 22:32 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Directors Guild Boss Insists That Everyone Against SOPA/PIPA Was Duped | Techdirt .::. Size~: 136.44 KB | Feb 16 22:32 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] you'd think industries who claim to be THE #creative force in society, would be more creative in selling their bullshit laws to the public | Feb 16 22:35 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] still, these are the same folks who continually flog dead horses with sequels, prequels, remakes, reboots etc & avoid anything new | Feb 16 22:35 | |
MinceR | http://www.osnews.com/story/25619/Mac_OS_X_10_8_restricted_to_App_Store_signed_apps_by_default | Feb 16 22:43 |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Mac OS X 10.8 restricted to App Store, signed apps by default .::. Size~: 36.14 KB | Feb 16 22:43 |
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MinceR | http://www.reddit.com/tb/ps6c5 | Feb 16 22:46 |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Why I won't be buying from LaCie again via reddit.com .::. Size~: 1.66 KB | Feb 16 22:46 |
MinceR | gn | Feb 16 22:46 |
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schestowitz | https://twitter.com/NavinChauhan/status/170267897657180160?iid=am-212939495113294300050100641&nid=4+status_timestamp&uid=26603208 | Feb 16 22:55 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @NavinChauhan: @schestowitz very interesting .... thanks | Feb 16 22:55 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Cameron will "consider transferring more powers to Scotland" IF they do his bidding - #prediction - considered, decided not to | Feb 16 22:57 | |
schestowitz | MinceR: about that bannerhttp://identi.ca/notice/9070153 2ttp://identi.ca/notice/90701532 | Feb 16 22:58 |
TechrightsBot-tr | Not a dent? | Feb 16 22:58 |
schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/90701673 http://identi.ca/notice/90701532 | Feb 16 22:58 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @Andrew Alderwick (alderwick)'s status on Thursday, 16-Feb-12 22:55:50 UTC - Identi.ca: ... though the bad punctuation in the top text and the spelling of the word “organized” in the bottom made me suspicious to begin with! | Feb 16 22:58 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @Andrew Alderwick (alderwick)'s status on Thursday, 16-Feb-12 22:52:08 UTC - Identi.ca: Yes, it's a fake. I turned up the contrast and you can see where the fake text is blended with the rest of the image. http://ur1.ca/87n8w | Feb 16 22:58 |
TechrightsBot-tr | -> Title: http://file3.status.net/i/identica/alderwick-20120216T225206-x9fjcru.jpeg - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 11.09 KB | Feb 16 22:58 |
amarsh04 | time for a new kernel... | Feb 16 22:58 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Meet FinFisher & Amesys, two leading companies that supply mass spying tech to countries that violate human rights https://eff.org/r.S8D | Feb 16 23:00 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] All right, send me an email. evan@status.net. | Feb 16 23:00 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] bribery is not illegal if politicians do it | Feb 16 23:00 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] RT @dpic @rms "People said I should accept the world. Bullshit! I don't accept the world." - Richard M. Stallman http://redd.it/psz19 !g ... | Feb 16 23:00 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Spy Tech Companies & Their Authoritarian Customers, Part I: FinFisher And Amesys | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 35.7 KB | Feb 16 23:00 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Good luck on that one. | Feb 16 23:02 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @hook: I understand why businesses would prefer lax licenses, but business is not always in the best interest of the end-user. | Feb 16 23:05 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Cameron cynically trying to buy a no vote, with no intention of honoring his offer - "consider AFTER the vote", claim victory then give 0% | Feb 16 23:05 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Don't let Congress use #cybersecurity fears to undermine digital rights. https://eff.org/r.4SP #privacy | Feb 16 23:10 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Sydney, Feb 17, 6pm UTS: Christine Assange, Jennifer Robinson & co WikiLeaks, Assange and Democracy http://t.co/mcX2zPB0 | Feb 16 23:10 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Action Alert | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 21.53 KB | Feb 16 23:11 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] RT @forteller RT @ioerror: Obfsproxy: the next step in the censorship arms race: http://is.gd/o8CQWh #tor #ssl #obfsproxy #censorship | Feb 16 23:12 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Obfsproxy: the next step in the censorship arms race | The Tor Blog .::. Size~: 26.82 KB | Feb 16 23:12 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Ubuntu 10.04.4 LTS released http://ur1.ca/87nnt | Feb 16 23:20 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] @torproject releases Obsproxy in war on censorship https://t.co/0iySnDHG | Feb 16 23:20 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Ubuntu 10.04.4 LTS released [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 7.8 KB | Feb 16 23:20 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] thanks for your support :) we had a bit more interest at the beginning that anticipated, so had to crank up the server a bit. all good now. | Feb 16 23:22 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Takedowns run amok? The strange Secret Service/GoDaddy assault on JotForm http://goo.gl/qLlOs one more reason to avoid #GoDaddy | Feb 16 23:27 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Takedowns run amok? The strange Secret Service/GoDaddy assault on JotForm .::. Size~: 40.4 KB | Feb 16 23:27 |
schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TCTsDjg9fY&feature=digest_mon | Feb 16 23:29 |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Fox News Makes Me Lose My Shit - YouTube .::. Size~: 133.78 KB | Feb 16 23:29 |
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DaemonFC | my eyes!!! | Feb 16 23:38 |
DaemonFC | *ugh* | Feb 16 23:38 |
DaemonFC | played that game too long | Feb 16 23:38 |
DaemonFC | I've almost defeated the Communists though | Feb 16 23:39 |
DaemonFC | B-) | Feb 16 23:39 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Lea: The Unity design process (and how you can play a part in it) http://ur1.ca/87nvg | Feb 16 23:39 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Lea: The Unity design process (and how you can play a part in it) [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 8.42 KB | Feb 16 23:39 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 16/2/2012: Netrunner 4.1, More Ubuntu 12.04 Previews http://ur1.ca/87nvd #techrights | Feb 16 23:40 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Links 16/2/2012: Netrunner 4.1, More Ubuntu 12.04 Previews | Techrights .::. Size~: 130.16 KB | Feb 16 23:41 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @kevie: Hehehe how can you tell if it's HTML or HTML5? http://b1t.it/aQSR windoze fail | Feb 16 23:45 | |
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DaemonFC | I don't see why Microsoft ReFS is getting any coverage | Feb 16 23:47 |
DaemonFC | it won't be in Windows 8, it will be in the Server version that starts at $500 a copy | Feb 16 23:47 |
DaemonFC | every article I've seen so far leaves out the little detail that Microsoft is going to keep home users on the same old shit | Feb 16 23:47 |
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