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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Open Source Coopetition Fueled by LF Growth http://ur1.ca/8n7bl #linuxfoundation #linuxMar 14 00:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux News: Community: Open Source Coopetition Fueled by LF Growth .::. Size~: 14.32 KBMar 14 00:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Un informe de la ONU denuncia el trato inhumano al informante de WikiLeaks: Por Ashley Fantz | CNN http://t.co/jdxHunfDMar 14 00:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Un informe de la ONU denuncia el trato inhumano al informante de WikiLeaks – CNN en Español – Ultimas Noticias de Estados Unidos, Latinoamérica y el Mundo, Opinión y Videos - CNN.com Blogs .::. Size~: 98.03 KBMar 14 00:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] We've signed on to a joint letter to Vietnam, urging the immediate release of 5 detained bloggers - https://eff.org/r.2US #netfreedomMar 14 00:07
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Vietnamese government urged to release bloggers | Media Legal Defence Initiative .::. Size~: 26.08 KBMar 14 00:07
DaemonFChttp://dos1.github.com/kamerka/Mar 14 00:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Julian Assange y Vicente Fox debaten sobre la legalización de las drogas | Jornada http://t.co/v6VrMFu4Mar 14 00:22
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Julian Assange y Vicente Fox debaten sobre la legalización de las drogas             —                  Wikileaks en La Jornada .::. Size~: 35.76 KBMar 14 00:22
schestowitz"Killer Android phones now under $30" Mar 14 00:31
schestowitzhttp://www.bestbuy.com/site/Cricket+-+Muve+ZTE+Score+No-Contract+Mobile+Phone+-+Black/3455798.p?id=1218403502117&skuId=3455798&cmp=RMX&ky=1whxm51gbOgORrn6M8JOUlLjDtR0yY7RxMar 14 00:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz]  "The superior man understands what is right; the inferior man understands what will sell." Mar 14 00:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Those who stand for nothing fall for anything." ~ALEXANDER HAMILTON 1755-1804Mar 14 00:36
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/91837790Mar 14 00:37
TechrightsBot-tr@حالة foonetic (lnxwalt280) (lnxwalt280) في يوم Wednesday, 14-Mar-12 00:14:40 UTC - 280: @schestowitz I sincerely hope they do not decide to support H.264. #patent_trolls #land_minesMar 14 00:37
schestowitz[Mozilla]Mar 14 00:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Raspberry Pi - Top Ideas 1-5 http://ur1.ca/8n7r9 #gnu #linuxMar 14 00:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Raspberry Pi - 10 Best Uses for the $25 Computer - Opinion - Trusted Reviews .::. Size~: 123.16 KBMar 14 00:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 14 Ways to Contribute to Open Source without Being a Programming Genius or a Rock Star http://ur1.ca/8n7rj #opensourceMar 14 00:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Wall Street’s Broken Windows http://ur1.ca/8n7rr #financeMar 14 00:44
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Wall Street’s Broken Windows |  | New Economic PerspectivesNew Economic Perspectives .::. Size~: 92.88 KBMar 14 00:44
DaemonFCschestowitz: What's wrong with just using what the user has already decided to install?Mar 14 00:48
DaemonFCbesides, even if they continue to needlessly cripple it on Linux, you know Microsoft will stuff a Windows Media plugin into it to handle h264 on WindowsMar 14 00:49
schestowitzwhere?Mar 14 00:49
DaemonFCFirefoxMar 14 00:49
schestowitzmpeg-la?Mar 14 00:49
DaemonFCyou can just use the system gstreamer codecsMar 14 00:49
DaemonFCand have done with itMar 14 00:49
schestowitziirc, they would have to pay 20 mil for a "licence"Mar 14 00:49
XFaCEschestowitz: mpeg-laMar 14 00:49
DaemonFCnoMar 14 00:49
XFaCEschestowitz: My understanding tooMar 14 00:49
DaemonFCthey're suggesting that they use the codecs the user already has installed Mar 14 00:49
DaemonFCI already have MPEG-4 codecs for GstreamerMar 14 00:50
XFaCELooks like libdvdcss will be illgal in CanadaMar 14 00:50
DaemonFCwhy should Firefox refuse to use them>Mar 14 00:50
schestowitzask themMar 14 00:50
schestowitzlet us knowMar 14 00:50
DaemonFClibdvdcss itself is not illegal in the USMar 14 00:50
DaemonFCbut using it to play commercial DVDs probably isMar 14 00:50
schestowitzcommercial?Mar 14 00:51
schestowitzlike, business data?Mar 14 00:51
DaemonFCthe reason libdvdcss can't be ruled illegal in the US is because the Librarian of Congress issued a DMCA exception that allows you to decrypt CSS for some "fair use" purposesMar 14 00:51
schestowitzor MAFIAA DVDs?Mar 14 00:51
schestowitzaka :"entertainment"Mar 14 00:51
DaemonFCfor those purposes, you're going to need software that can do thatMar 14 00:51
DaemonFCso it's unlikely that a court could rule that the library itself is illegal to shareMar 14 00:52
DaemonFCif they did rule that, it would be impossible to take advantage of the DMCA exception itselfMar 14 00:52
DaemonFCso it's a chicken and the egg thing that I believe will keep libdvdcss safe in the US, unless the Librarian of Congress rescinds the exception or a new law is passed that further restricts fair use to the point where nothing you could do with libdvdcss would be legalMar 14 00:53
DaemonFCbut the idea that you need permission to do something that's already legal (which is why the DMCA exception exists in the law itself) is ridiculousMar 14 00:54
DaemonFCand what's even more frightening is that the exceptions are all handed out and revoked by one personMar 14 00:55
DaemonFCwith no oversight on the processMar 14 00:56
DaemonFCthe DMCA is unconstitutionalMar 14 00:56
DaemonFCbut good luck finding a court that will say thatMar 14 00:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @monsieurgustave @FroehlicherT @Eurovilles doesn't have anything to do with jerks. The (European) law i http://ur1. ...Mar 14 00:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] TheDailyBell- Dr Andrew Wakefield on the Autism/Vaccine Controversy and His Ongoing Professional Persecution http://goo.gl/XtImn #bigpharmaMar 14 00:59
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1415565Mar 14 01:10
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Raspberry Pi - Top Ideas 1-5 http://www.trustedreviews.com/opinions/raspberry-pi-10-best-uses-for-the-25-computer #gnu #linuxMar 14 01:10
schestowitz"Thanks for the link, great ideas indeed (took a little more imagination than my obvious NAS/set top player idea...) "Mar 14 01:10
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schestowitzDaemonFC: basketball court?Mar 14 01:11
DaemonFCmehMar 14 01:12
DaemonFCthe copyright trolls of "professional" sports are the most aggressive I've seenMar 14 01:13
DaemonFCthey're worse than the RIAAMar 14 01:13
DaemonFCthey had "Homeland Security" out seizing counterfeit football merchandise in Indianapolis during the week of the SuperbowlMar 14 01:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #techrights log #boycottnovell log #boycottnovell-social log #techbytes log Enter the IRC channels nowMar 14 01:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #techrights log #boycottnovell log #boycottnovell-social log #techbytes log Enter the IRC channels nowMar 14 01:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] RT @ #techrights log #boycottnovell log #boycottnovell-social log #techbytes log Enter the IRC channels nowMar 14 01:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] RT @ #techrights log #boycottnovell log #boycottnovell-social log #techbytes log Enter the IRC channels nowMar 14 01:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @schestowitz "Those who stand for nothing fall for anything." ~ALEXANDER HAMILTON 1755-1804Mar 14 01:14
DaemonFCbecause while you were sleeping, the terrorists were apparently defeatedMar 14 01:14
DaemonFCand all crimes more serious than a counterfeit NFL football were wiped outMar 14 01:14
DaemonFCand so they needed something to keep themselves busyMar 14 01:15
DaemonFC:)Mar 14 01:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @schestowitz Use Linux Deepin Screenshot Tool "Deepin Scrot" In Other Linux Distributions http://ur1.ca/8n777 #gnu #linuxMar 14 01:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] 65-year-old California 'milk man' subjected to extreme torture, hypothermia, raw sewage in LA County jail http://goo.gl/loERx #policestateMar 14 01:39
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XFaCEon c11:Mar 14 01:47
XFaCE"http://techrights.org/wp-admin/post.php?post=58993&action=edit&message=10"Mar 14 01:47
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XFaCEoopsMar 14 01:47
XFaCE"Mar 14 01:47
XFaCETrying to keep my blood pressure downMar 14 01:47
XFaCEThese two phrases, "a new limitation on computer interoperability exception that restricts the use or disclosure of the information reproduced for the purposes of making the programs interoperable" and "a new limitation on disclosure of security flaws that requires advance notice to the copyright owner unless it is in the public interest to have it disclosed without such notice" make my blood BOIL. Did Microsoft or Apple instruct the Government of CanMar 14 01:47
XFaCEada to add these amendments? Mar 14 01:47
XFaCEThe first change seems to be a way to legally enforce the secure or restricted boot function being required by Microsoft with Windows 8. Will it now be ILLEGAL to install Linux on some PCs? Mar 14 01:47
XFaCEOrganizations like the Debian Project, OpenBSD and Canonical (makers of Ubuntu) ENCOURAGE their users to report, and even provide fixes for, vulnerabilities. What will happen when a security problem is found in Android and the breach is exploited, because whoever found the breach had to WAIT until the copyright owner was notified and took its sweet time deciding whether the flaw can be published? This change to the law may induce a violation of the GPMar 14 01:47
XFaCEL licence, and may make Linux vendors unwilling to sell their software in Canada any more."Mar 14 01:47
DaemonFCif any of the provisions of the GPL are not possible to legally fulfill, then you have no rights to distribute any of the software covered under the GPL Mar 14 01:51
DaemonFCso effectively, it becomes impossible to distribute that software in CanadaMar 14 01:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Tour 2012 em Portugal de George R. R. Martin http://goo.gl/eJ9RvMar 14 01:56
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DaemonFChttp://phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?69376-Silicon-Motion-Has-Open-Source-Driver-But-Fails&p=254057#post254057Mar 14 02:08
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DaemonFC:)Mar 14 02:08
DaemonFChttp://phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?69376-Silicon-Motion-Has-Open-Source-Driver-But-Fails&p=254058#post254058Mar 14 02:11
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DaemonFChttp://phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?69376-Silicon-Motion-Has-Open-Source-Driver-But-Fails&p=254059#post254059Mar 14 02:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Silicon Motion Has Open-Source Driver, But Fails - Page 2 .::. Size~: 81.08 KBMar 14 02:14
DaemonFC:)Mar 14 02:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Germany Fails To Meet Its Own Austerity Goals | CollapseNet http://goo.gl/hV1K4Mar 14 02:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Encyclopaedia Britannica drops print edition (Computerworld): http://bit.ly/zo2PgWMar 14 02:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Germany Fails To Meet Its Own Austerity Goals | CollapseNet .::. Size~: 89.55 KBMar 14 02:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Encyclopaedia Britannica drops print edition - Computerworld .::. Size~: 131.49 KBMar 14 02:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] The Survival Mom Teaches You How To Prepare More, Panic Less http://goo.gl/AmyvX #books #preppersMar 14 02:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Prepping for the Financially Challenged: A One Month Survival Plan For Under $300 http://goo.gl/enBji #preppersMar 14 02:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] Couple fires in Boston but everyone's doing their best to keep transit running.Mar 14 02:44
*DaemonFC is listening to Ain't Got No, I Got Life by Nina Simone on The Very Best of Nina Simone Vol 1 [Amarok]Mar 14 02:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] AT&T Gets Dirty, Threatens Plaintiff With Termination Of Service Unless He Shuts Up http://identi.ca/url/67927268Mar 14 02:57
TechrightsBot-trTitle: AT&T Gets Dirty, Threatens Plaintiff With Termination Of Service Unless He Shuts Up [Update: AT&T Responds] | TechCrunch .::. Size~: 58.39 KBMar 14 02:57
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DaemonFChttp://www.internetevolution.com/document.asp?doc_id=240386&print=yesMar 14 03:45
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Internet Evolution - The Big Report - Google's Mounting Trash Pile .::. Size~: 42.66 KBMar 14 03:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] I had to laugh at @larryrusswurm's Rush Limbaugh Gets Cartoond http://www.ur1.ca/8n8i1 #humour #webcomicMar 14 05:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @kevie ♻ @unseenstudio we're Knights of the round #Crivins ep9 with last minute guests @schestowitz & @aldeniszen http://goo.gl/Fzt0k ...Mar 14 05:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !tzag and good morning @inscius (tho almost time to call it a night over here)Mar 14 05:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Apple's marketing is "false & misleading". LOL, who'd have guessed !!! #crapple. http://ur1.ca/8nbieMar 14 05:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Happy Half Tau Day! http://tauday.com/ #fb #inMar 14 06:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Bad News: !Canada Passed Bill #C-10 http://www.ur1.ca/8nbym !CDNpoliMar 14 06:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Bad News: Canada Passed Bill C-10 «  Oh! Canada .::. Size~: 53.67 KBMar 14 06:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Check out this new video demo of Ubuntu Accomplishments - http://is.gd/H0tj8S #ubuntuMar 14 06:51
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schestowitzmorning all :-)Mar 14 08:06
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/91835898Mar 14 08:06
TechrightsBot-tr@Sander (sandersch)'s status on Tuesday, 13-Mar-12 22:40:17 UTC - Identi.ca: RT @kevie ♻ @unseenstudio we're Knights of the round #Crivins ep9 with last minute guests @schestowitz & @aldeniszen http://goo.gl/Fzt0k ...Mar 14 08:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] with soporific cat on my lap... the long day is fading and sleep calls... so goodnight !identiverse !tzafMar 14 08:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Gotcha. Commissioner De Gucht in three strikes denial http://ur1.ca/8ncbo #acta #threestrikesMar 14 08:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Rupert Murdoch fights against the Web http://ur1.ca/8ncbvMar 14 08:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Gotcha. Commissioner De Gucht in three strikes denial  « Sköne Oke .::. Size~: 43.09 KBMar 14 08:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: FOX International wants “evidence regime in favor of content provider and rights holder” « Sköne Oke .::. Size~: 38.8 KBMar 14 08:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Raspberry Pi More Popular Than Lady Gaga http://ur1.ca/8ncd2 http://ur1.ca/8ncd3 #linuxMar 14 08:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Raspberry Pi More Popular Than Lady Gaga | GeekDad | Wired.com .::. Size~: 68.29 KBMar 14 08:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Raspberry Pi is the Linux punk ethic | ZDNet UK .::. Size~: 57.82 KBMar 14 08:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Pivoting Linux in a Post-PC world http://ur1.ca/8ncdb #linuxMar 14 08:19
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Pivoting Linux in a Post-PC world | ITworld .::. Size~: 135.88 KBMar 14 08:19
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/91845839Mar 14 08:22
TechrightsBot-tr@Sander (sandersch)'s status on Wednesday, 14-Mar-12 08:14:04 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz He's a modern Don Quichot.Mar 14 08:22
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1412187Mar 14 08:22
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: My Debian Squeeze box DOESN'T spring forward http://www.insidesocal.com/click/2012/03/my-debian-squeeze-box-doesnt-s.html #Debian #gnu #linuxMar 14 08:22
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schestowitz"I've never had this problem with Debian, network time protocol updates or not. The comment which speculates on local time being used for the system clock is probably on to the problem. "Mar 14 08:22
schestowitzMozilla is making a mistake..Mar 14 08:22
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1415271Mar 14 08:23
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Idealism vs. pragmatism: Mozilla debates supporting H.264 video playback http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/news/2012/03/idealism-vs-pragmatism-mozilla-debates-supporting-h264-video-playback.ars?comments=1 no noes. #swpats #cartelMar 14 08:23
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schestowitz"Chromium and Chrome browsers both do ogg theora support out of the box. Why would anyone want to fool with anything else? "Mar 14 08:23
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/91845887Mar 14 08:28
TechrightsBot-tr@Sander (sandersch)'s status on Wednesday, 14-Mar-12 08:17:39 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Who's lady gaga? Is that some posh baby?Mar 14 08:28
schestowitzXFaCE: http://mrpogson.com/2012/03/13/wasting-no-time-canadian-senate-schedules-meetings-on-c-19/Mar 14 08:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Wasting No Time, Canadian Senate Schedules Meetings on C-19 at  Robert Pogson .::. Size~: 34.67 KBMar 14 08:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Google extends secure search http://ur1.ca/8nci0 'secure' from the wrong party, you're still trackedMar 14 08:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Get Your Linux Game On http://ur1.ca/8ncly. #Games #gnu #linuxMar 14 08:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #elementaryOS 0.1 Screenshot Tour http://ur1.ca/8ncma #gnu #linuxMar 14 08:47
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Google extends secure search | ZDNet .::. Size~: 133.41 KBMar 14 08:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle: ur1 Generator .::. Size~: 2.26 KBMar 14 08:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle: elementaryOS 0.1 Screenshot Tour - Softpedia .::. Size~: 56.26 KBMar 14 08:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] First Look: #elementaryOS Jupiter http://ur1.ca/8ncmu #gnu #linuxMar 14 08:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: First Look: elementaryOS Jupiter - Softpedia .::. Size~: 50.44 KBMar 14 08:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] * #Matrius 1.2 Krypton screen shots http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2012/03/13/matrius-1-2-krypton-screen-shots/ #gnu #linuxMar 14 08:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Matrius 1.2 Krypton screen shots .::. Size~: 105.31 KBMar 14 08:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Plasma Active Three Sprint http://ur1.ca/8ncnu #kde #gnu #linuxMar 14 08:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Linux kernel 3.3 delayed http://ur1.ca/8ncoj #linux #kernelMar 14 09:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux kernel 3.3 delayed .::. Size~: 115.73 KBMar 14 09:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #RaspberryPi retailers clarify shipping costs on $35 Linux computer http://ur1.ca/8ncpb #linuxMar 14 09:07
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Raspberry Pi retailers clarify shipping costs on $35 Linux computer .::. Size~: 34.1 KBMar 14 09:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Fedora Linux 16: A Business Powerhouse, in Pictures http://ur1.ca/8ncpl #fedora #gnu #linuxMar 14 09:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Value and benefits of #textmining - http://bit.ly/ylYGoq great #jisc report on this crucial new area (v @eikoku)Mar 14 09:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Fedora Linux 16: A Business Powerhouse, in Pictures | PCWorld .::. Size~: 75.46 KBMar 14 09:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Value and benefits of text mining : JISC .::. Size~: 222.43 KBMar 14 09:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Reclaim the Internet in under a Minute - http://bit.ly/w5jxGn use OpenNICMar 14 09:12
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Reclaim The Internet In Under A Minute - Falkvinge on Infopolicy .::. Size~: 239.06 KBMar 14 09:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] An “Internet of Things” Camera - http://bit.ly/zHf6z5 rather cool; #arduino based (v @boingboing)Mar 14 09:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Gravity Announces Labs and #OpenSource Projects - http://rww.to/yoA2ir good to seeMar 14 09:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Internet of Things Camera - .::. Size~: 14.68 KBMar 14 09:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Staying Power of Guarani - http://bit.ly/ykz2J8 amazing #paraguayMar 14 09:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Stop Extradition - Fair UK Trial for Richard #ODwyer - http://bit.ly/r0QV4b probably pointless now, but worth signing as a protestMar 14 09:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 14/3/2012: Linux 3.3 Delayed, elementaryOS 0.1 http://ur1.ca/8ncsu #techrightsMar 14 09:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Crisis in Microsoft land - http://bit.ly/x0tg6i first encyclopedia britannica, now windows...? #endofaneraMar 14 09:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #OpenData Innovation Community - Francis Maude speech - http://bit.ly/xX2b2L nothing new, but good he says it (v @Rchards)Mar 14 09:29
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/91847390Mar 14 09:49
TechrightsBot-tr@Jose R Rodriguez (metztli)'s status on Wednesday, 14-Mar-12 09:35:32 UTC - Identi.ca: Post-PC… not the only way to go,& !Linux vendors/designers should keep an eye out for other opportunities…in days ahead http://ur1.ca/8ncdbMar 14 09:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[docufoundation/@docufoundation] The Document Foundation supports the Document Freedom Day: http://bit.ly/ype6Lh !libo !tdfMar 14 10:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @cyberkiller: ♻ @glynmoody: Stop Extradition - Fair UK Trial for Richard #ODwyer - http://bit.ly/r0QV4bMar 14 10:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @jerezim: S&D: Done. Now let's help EPP, ALDE to oppose cheap political trick to postpone #ACTA debate/vote http://t.co/pUOFm2U4Mar 14 10:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Microsoft: Data protection undermines IP enforcement - http://bit.ly/yAhlHH such a warm, generous company #rights #intellectualmonopoliesMar 14 10:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Submission to UK Consultation on #Copyright: Exceptions - http://bit.ly/xL5niT time is running out: pl. make your submission soonMar 14 10:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] "Judge orders failed copyright troll to forfeit "all" copyrights" http://identi.ca/url/67938243 !rbnewsMar 14 10:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The #OpenDesign definition - http://bit.ly/A32Txz "collaborative, discussion-focused creation of an updated definition" (v @openp2pdesign)Mar 14 10:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] The “Apple helps free software” myth | Zwillingssterns Weltenwald http://ow.ly/9DCMeMar 14 10:37
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: The “Apple helps free software” myth | Zwillingssterns Weltenwald .::. Size~: 20.81 KBMar 14 10:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] 38% of #China’s Internet population are mobile-only users, says report - http://tnw.co/xQ8PH7 it's the futureMar 14 10:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] "The Hobbit" pub, operating for 20y, now faces lawsuit from Hollywood ur1.ca/8nd89 !copyfraud #mafiaaMar 14 10:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] On the other hand, the pub uses copyrighted works in their promo materials: ur1.ca/8nd8t !copyfraudMar 14 10:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] PrivateGSM - http://bit.ly/wbdcG3 "to encrypt calls in a totally safe & legal way through VoIP"; cool (v @ioerror) #androidMar 14 10:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] dear !lazyweb @ccc - what was the tune playing in the background of #28c3? I love it, it's pure awesome as a background tune!Mar 14 11:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @ioerror: Microsoft and Skype set to allow backdoor eavesdropping | memeburn http://t.co/hsxKRFqMar 14 11:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Also, dear !lazyweb !cc, who could recommend some good, calm, hacker-ish background music for a 2-day hackathon? #sochackeduMar 14 11:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft and Skype set to allow backdoor eavesdropping | memeburn .::. Size~: 83.22 KBMar 14 11:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Use and transfer of Passenger Name Records to the United States breaches EU rights - http://bit.ly/wpNiRg say profs. (v @bendrath)Mar 14 11:16
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schestowitz"Yeah. I remember having that problem with my Commodore 64." https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1416393Mar 14 11:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] [Video] !Kubuntu Presented as Windows 8 in a Fun Experiment ~ Ubuntu Vibes http://goo.gl/97lBuMar 14 12:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻@ioerror: It's working! @mcafee says it will not build #pakistan firewall. Tell the others: http://t.co/Lhoc1aoO @bluecoatnews @huaweipressMar 14 12:30
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MinceR(javascript) http://groups.google.com/a/googleproductforums.com/forum/#!category-topic/chrome/give-feature-feedback-and-suggestions/O3dQpFowX0wMar 14 12:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] he's back with a vengeance @Contrabbando @radiobubble http://ur1.ca/8ndstMar 14 12:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @wkpl @sirmacik: Piszą o nas też na Creative Commons Polska, dzięki! http://bit.ly/y6VfkTMar 14 12:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Wolna Kultura otwiera stajnię podcastów! «  Creative Commons Polska .::. Size~: 20.84 KBMar 14 12:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] τα social media λειτουργουν υπερβολικα πολυ ως βαλβίδα εκτόνωσης κι αυτό πρεπει να το κοιτάξουμεMar 14 12:41
XFaCEschestowitz: I didn't notice at first, but there is a very nasty provision in C11, that hits at the core of Free softwareMar 14 12:45
schestowitzso it's good at what it does ^_^Mar 14 12:46
XFaCEschestowitz: Conservatives propose: "a new limitation on computer interoperability exception that restricts the use or disclosure of the information reproduced for the purposes of making the programs interoperable"Mar 14 12:47
XFaCEAs a commentator put, did MS or Apple write this stupid suggestion?Mar 14 12:47
XFaCEschestowitz: This is just a proposed amendment, but it's from the ConservativesMar 14 12:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Death Star SUCKS PLASMA FROM SUN in NASA riddle vid • The Register http://goo.gl/lStca #scitekMar 14 12:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻@bramalab: Prof. dr hab. Jan Szmidt, Dziekan WEiTI, został Rektorem Politechniki Warszawskiej! Serdecznie gratulujemy! ur1.ca/8ndy5Mar 14 12:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Death Star SUCKS PLASMA FROM SUN in NASA riddle vid • The Register .::. Size~: 23.03 KBMar 14 12:53
schestowitzConserving MS monopolyMar 14 12:53
XFaCEyepMar 14 12:57
XFaCEand harming FS communitiesMar 14 12:57
XFaCEschestowitz: I can edit the article in the end, and post it under my accountMar 14 13:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Australia is leading a global, digital, open education revolution | http://red.ht/w6EyVd #opensource #edreform #moodleMar 14 13:01
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XFaCEschestowitz: would that be ok with you?Mar 14 13:04
*XFaCE gives voice to amarsh04Mar 14 13:08
*XFaCE gives voice to brendynMar 14 13:08
*XFaCE gives voice to schestowitzMar 14 13:08
*XFaCE gives voice to schestowitz_logMar 14 13:08
*XFaCE gives voice to riddic-ArmBoxMar 14 13:08
*XFaCE gives voice to Roderick_Mar 14 13:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @tinydroptest2 gewoon doen man.Mar 14 13:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @tinydroptest2 een uurke minder slapen en je komt er wel ;-)Mar 14 13:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @stefroelandt MT, staat dat voor Meta-Tweet ofzo?Mar 14 13:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @bobby1999 we doen trouwens ook weer van iRail Summer of code. Als je ontwikkelaars nodig hebt voor PoC http://ur1. ...Mar 14 13:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: We run an NPO. To some people that means: people who have time to do some extra paper work. #notreallyMar 14 13:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @tinydroptest2 Neen, enkel als @joke er zit.Mar 14 13:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @bruno1970 @iText De max! Ik kijk al uit naar wat jullie gaan opleveren!Mar 14 13:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @CKANproject: How open #transport data benefits passengers - and some useful lessons for #opendata a http://ur1. ...Mar 14 13:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @bruno1970: We hebben beslist om met @iText deel te nemen aan @AppsForGhent Weinig tijd om een app t http://ur1. ...Mar 14 13:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] UK people may be interested in this group buying experiment - http://bit.ly/x49hNv 185K have signed up, including me...Mar 14 13:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Firefox in 2011 – Firefox plans for 2012 http://ur1.ca/8netyMar 14 13:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] Read this: A patent lie - How Yahoo Weaponized My Work http://is.gd/ZtOq0g "most innocuous patent can be used to crush another’s creativity"Mar 14 13:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Firefox in 2011 – Firefox plans for 2012 [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 7.86 KBMar 14 13:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: A Patent Lie: How Yahoo Weaponized My Work | Epicenter | Wired.com .::. Size~: 61.28 KBMar 14 13:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Six ways to celebrate St. Patrick's Day the @opensourceway by @suehle | http://red.ht/AuWv9K #opennessMar 14 14:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] an update for folks having issues with #Crivins 9 last night, it was my bad with the file path, it's fixed now & should work as plannedMar 14 14:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Xbox at 10 in Europe: how the console shaped gaming history http://gu.com/p/3672q reads like a "we need to appease the #Microsoft sponsorsMar 14 14:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Xbox at 10 in Europe: how the console shaped gaming history | Technology | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 212.71 KBMar 14 14:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Apple subpoenaed by FTC over Google's search deal on iPhone and iPad http://gu.com/p/366m6 Apple disclose stuff? They'll need a dictionaryMar 14 14:13
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Apple subpoenaed by FTC over Google's search deal on iPhone and iPad | Technology | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 183.88 KBMar 14 14:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Save CBC Music Archives - http://bit.ly/xdnobD destroying culture like this should be illegal #canadaMar 14 14:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] The falsely retracted rape claim: how the justice system failed http://gu.com/p/366nyMar 14 14:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Petition Save CBC Music Archives .::. Size~: 17.21 KBMar 14 14:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The falsely retracted rape claim: how the justice system failed | Vera Baird | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 258.67 KBMar 14 14:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #RushLimbaugh #Defended Joseph #Kony, Leader Of Rebel Militia Accused Of #Atrocities http://goo.gl/WniWuMar 14 14:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @GiovanniPysson @xavez Ben stout geweest en heb teruggemaild dat ik wil dat ze nog eens denken over het http://ur1. ...Mar 14 14:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: De Vlaamse Overheid wil dat ik een licentieprocedure voor online data via de post regel. In 2 exemplare http://ur1. ...Mar 14 14:25
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Rush Limbaugh Defended Joseph Kony, Leader Of Rebel Militia Accused Of Atrocities | loonwatch.com .::. Size~: 77.7 KBMar 14 14:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Private copying levies on digital media make less sense today than ever - http://bit.ly/z83k8t indeedMar 14 14:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: SRoC: Slightly Right of Centre: Private copying levies on digital media make less sense today than ever .::. Size~: 128.64 KBMar 14 14:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Will you tell #Starbucks your name? http://goo.gl/nJprJ sure, call me Ossama Bin Obama Der Vander Limbagh Blair the 3rd of FuckoffvilleMar 14 14:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BBC News - Will you tell Starbucks your name? .::. Size~: 102.02 KBMar 14 14:35
schestowitzXFaCE: sure, that's cool with me :-)Mar 14 14:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] I wonder what the reaction would be is you said "My name is Fuck Off You Slimy Ignorant Cunt, and that's Cunt spelled with a C not a K"Mar 14 14:40
schestowitz"GPUs have been an ARM problem, is there any relief on the horizon?" https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1416406Mar 14 14:40
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #RaspberryPi retailers clarify shipping costs on $35 Linux computer http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/news/2012/03/raspberry-pi-retailers-clarify-shipping-costs-on-35-linux-computer.ars #linuxMar 14 14:40
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: Raspberry Pi retailers clarify shipping costs on $35 Linux computer .::. Size~: 34.08 KBMar 14 14:40
XFaCEschestowitz: :)Mar 14 14:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] they ask an open question to get an open answer, they can't complain they're offended by the answer you gave themMar 14 14:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] The name's "the fat fucker in the blue jacket" - "coffee for the fat fucker in the blue jacket" -"WHAT? what kinda place is this?"Mar 14 14:45
schestowitzhttp://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Microsoft-closes-critical-RDP-hole-in-Windows-1471581.htmlMar 14 14:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft closes critical RDP hole in Windows - The H Security: News and Features .::. Size~: 44.06 KBMar 14 14:52
schestowitzmeh Mar 14 14:52
schestowitzepic failMar 14 14:52
MinceRyet another?Mar 14 14:54
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schestowitz...has just entered the channelMar 14 14:55
MinceR:DMar 14 14:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Izrael ma zniszczyć palestyńskie panele słoneczne. Bo tak. ur1.ca/8nfvlMar 14 15:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Weir: Where did the time go? http://ur1.ca/8ng58Mar 14 15:03
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Weir: Where did the time go? [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 7.97 KBMar 14 15:03
schestowitzbenoit schillings works in FB now? Blech..Mar 14 15:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Shuttleworth: Ubuntu vs RHEL in enterprise computing http://ur1.ca/8ngeoMar 14 15:15
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XFaCEjono: j-j-j-with the double o and a nMar 14 15:15
XFaCEjono: By any chance are you related to Kevin Bacon? That would be super-cool awesome.Mar 14 15:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @wkpl: W ramach afterparty po Archconie szykuje się pierwszy koncert @wkpl \o/Mar 14 15:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @shot: Kamil o planach na weekend – zapraszamy gorąco! http://ur1.ca/8ng11Mar 14 15:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Technologie i Edukacja. SocHack:Edu       - YouTube .::. Size~: 90.28 KBMar 14 15:16
schestowitzpopey works at Canonical nowMar 14 15:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] !linuxlibre 3.2.11-libre sources are now availableMar 14 15:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Details of Initial "Disc to Digital" Program Emerge http://goo.gl/UiTy3Mar 14 15:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Details of Initial "Disc to Digital" Program Emerge - Slashdot .::. Size~: 47.85 KBMar 14 15:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Multiword passwords not secure, people still must remember long (& multiple) strings of random digits (Slashdot): http://bit.ly/yF3L9BMar 14 15:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Multiword Passwords Secure Or Not? - Slashdot .::. Size~: 260.55 KBMar 14 15:51
DaemonFChttp://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Microsoft-closes-critical-RDP-hole-in-Windows-1471581.htmlMar 14 15:55
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft closes critical RDP hole in Windows - The H Security: News and Features .::. Size~: 44.17 KBMar 14 15:55
DaemonFC"All supported versions of Windows from Windows XP Service Pack 3 to Windows 7 Service Pack 1 and Windows Server 2008 R2 are affected. "Mar 14 15:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] New Blog Post | Logical Extension To The Notification Bar In #Android http://goo.gl/JTJ5u #LinuxMar 14 16:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Logical Extension To The Notification Bar In Android | The Digital Prism .::. Size~: 25.82 KBMar 14 16:00
DaemonFCDebian Project Leader is up for election, faces two challengers Mar 14 16:00
DaemonFCApple releases another Safari mega patch that closes 80 vulnerabilitiesMar 14 16:00
DaemonFCthat's actually less than the typical 100 or soMar 14 16:00
DaemonFCthey benefit greatly from Google fixing most of them (Webkit/Chrome)Mar 14 16:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Harper's Publisher Presents Platonic Ideal Specimen Of 'I'm An Old Fogey Elitist Anti-Internet Luddite' Columns - http://bit.ly/zcTWnz epicMar 14 16:13
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Harper's Publisher Presents The Platonic Ideal Specimen Of The 'I'm An Old Fogey Elitist Anti-Internet Luddite' Columns | Techdirt .::. Size~: 77.43 KBMar 14 16:13
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DaemonFChttps://daemonfc.wordpress.com/2012/03/14/should-mozilla-support-h-264-it-depends/Mar 14 16:37
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Should Mozilla support h.264? It depends. « daemonfc .::. Size~: 60.7 KBMar 14 16:37
schestowitzDaemonFC: I saw the news abur DPMar 14 16:37
schestowitzI posted the same link here earlierMar 14 16:37
schestowitzI see what you did thereMar 14 16:40
schestowitzdecent rantMar 14 16:40
DaemonFCschestowitz: It should support them if the user has codecs for themMar 14 16:42
DaemonFCif sites don't want to be gouged by the MPEG-LA, they should use WebMMar 14 16:42
DaemonFCthat's their own problemMar 14 16:42
schestowitzif you say so..Mar 14 16:43
DaemonFCschestowitz: Even your beloved Richard Stallman has made arguments like thisMar 14 16:44
DaemonFC"Free software implementations of MP3 should exist, but you shouldn't use them"Mar 14 16:44
DaemonFChe said the same about C#Mar 14 16:44
DaemonFCit's a tricky case of having to support something that you'd really rather see go awayMar 14 16:45
DaemonFCgnash is in the same boatMar 14 16:45
schestowitzit sounds contradictory, but it's notMar 14 16:46
schestowitza bit likeMar 14 16:46
schestowitz"Euthanasia should be offered, but you shouldn't take it"Mar 14 16:47
schestowitzSame for some hard drugsMar 14 16:47
schestowitzto avoid worse situationsMar 14 16:47
schestowitzDaemonFC: for a lot of people it is exceedingly hard to get around Stallman's mind because the logic is too complex for themMar 14 16:48
schestowitzideas of what freedom meansMar 14 16:48
DaemonFCschestowitz: I'd compare MPEG-LA to the shopkeeper in Needful ThingsMar 14 16:48
schestowitzand they choose not to understandMar 14 16:48
schestowitzthe idiots from LAS showed this type of ignoranceMar 14 16:48
schestowitzfor instanceMar 14 16:48
schestowitz"free as in freedom, not beer, it's not hard if you say it like this" [not actual quote]Mar 14 16:49
schestowitz"or freedom is when others cannot impose on you what to do"Mar 14 16:49
schestowitzNot the same as choiceMar 14 16:49
DaemonFChttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Needful_ThingsMar 14 16:49
schestowitzbut the spinners have ways of CHOOSING to misunderstand and then confuse their choirMar 14 16:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Needful Things - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 58.41 KBMar 14 16:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fedora/@fedora] Fedora 16: A Business Powerhouse http://2tu.us/4rfyMar 14 16:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Fedora Linux 16: A Business Powerhouse, in Pictures | PCWorld .::. Size~: 75.56 KBMar 14 16:50
schestowitznever watched itMar 14 16:50
schestowitzor read itMar 14 16:50
schestowitzwhatever its message isMar 14 16:50
schestowitzI find it funny that the author's name precedes the book's nameMar 14 16:50
schestowitzwhich means people will buy for the author, not the storyMar 14 16:50
schestowitzas the real band is himMar 14 16:51
schestowitzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_KingMar 14 16:51
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DaemonFCschestowitz: The shop is ran by the devilMar 14 16:51
DaemonFChe always has the item you want in his storeMar 14 16:52
DaemonFCthe initial price is lowMar 14 16:52
schestowitz"King's father, Donald Edwin King, who was born circa 1913 in Peru, Indiana, was a merchant seaman"Mar 14 16:52
schestowitzPeru :-)Mar 14 16:52
DaemonFCbut he demands you do something truly evil to someone else as an additional favor for the merchandiseMar 14 16:52
DaemonFCsort of like the MPEG-LA making AAC free to stream or promising h264 sites won't have to pay royalties for 5 yearsMar 14 16:53
DaemonFCto force browsers to implement itMar 14 16:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] #Canada, keep fighting back against #C11, a small battle already won! ur1.ca/8nhmg !copyfraud #mafiaaMar 14 16:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] "Free Trade" is Not Free – Why We All Need to Oppose the TPP - http://bit.ly/zcjQFn more people concerned about #TPPMar 14 16:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] FBI, stumped by pimp's Android pattern lock, serves warrant on Google - http://bit.ly/zKrkwk nice ad for android's security - or fbi's failMar 14 16:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: "Free Trade" is Not Free – Why We All Need to Oppose the TPP | Common Dreams .::. Size~: 38.7 KBMar 14 16:53
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DaemonFCschestowitz: That's about 30 miles from meMar 14 16:54
schestowitzDaemonFC: today I joined redditMar 14 16:54
schestowitzsome folks urged me toMar 14 16:54
schestowitzare you on it?Mar 14 16:54
DaemonFCnoMar 14 16:55
schestowitzfrom what I saw before, Novell chums were hanging around there causing troubleMar 14 16:55
schestowitzTBH, I think a lot of people are now moving into crap sites and this old-style "Social network" thing is slowly dyingMar 14 16:55
schestowitzI often wonder what form publication of work, research, opinion, news etc. will take over the next 10 years.Mar 14 16:56
schestowitzSurely people still read stuff, although bandwodth means that people also watch stuff over the pipes, and either way people will continue getting information somewhere, somehow. The journals are dying and meetings with posters and presentations -- LUG too -- seem to be on the declineMar 14 16:57
schestowitzmaybe it'll just be like the onionMar 14 16:57
schestowitz!google the onion euthanasia braindeadMar 14 16:58
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Brain-Dead Teen, Only Capable Of Rolling Eyes And ... - The Onion | http://www.theonion.com/video/braindead-teen-only-capable-of-rolling-eyes-and-te,27225/Mar 14 16:58
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Not Dead Yet News & Commentary: The Onion: Brain-Dead Teen ... | http://notdeadyetnewscommentary.blogspot.com/2012/02/onion-brain-dead-teen-limited-to.htmlMar 14 16:58
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Fake Headline Of The Day: 'Brain-Dead Teen, Only Capable Of ... | http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2012/02/24/fake-headline-of-the-day-brain-dead-teen-only-capable-of-rolling-eyes-and-texting-to-be-euthanized/Mar 14 16:58
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Brain dead teen, only capable of rolling her eyes and texting | http://www.boreme.com/posting.php%3Fid%3D32293Mar 14 16:58
schestowitzphone+platform+food/obesityMar 14 16:58
schestowitzand people will still hail celebs and fiction :/Mar 14 16:58
DaemonFCThe FBI, which didn't have the right to search the phone without a warrant, obtained one on February 13, 2012. They took the phone from the parole agent and sent it off to an FBI Regional Computer Forensics Lab in Southern California. There, technicians “attempted to gain access to the contents of the memory of the cellular telephone in question, but were unable to do so,” said the FBI. They were defeated by, of all things, Android's “Mar 14 16:59
DaemonFCpattern lock”—not always notable for its high security.Mar 14 16:59
DaemonFCTechnicians apparently mis-entered the pattern enough times to lock the phone, which could only be unlocked using the phone owner's Google account credentials.Mar 14 16:59
DaemonFCyour tax dollars at workMar 14 16:59
DaemonFC:)Mar 14 16:59
schestowitzyeahMar 14 17:01
schestowitzmore data in people's pocket connected to some virtualised serverMar 14 17:01
schestowitzbest way to get people under your controlMar 14 17:01
schestowitzand to use their peers to entice them into the lifestyle of phones, account in FB/G+, etc.Mar 14 17:01
schestowitzI need to set up my own jabber server..Mar 14 17:01
schestowitzsome time...Mar 14 17:01
schestowitzwe need freedomboxMar 14 17:02
schestowitzto make it faster to set upMar 14 17:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] HBO Triggers an International #Copyright Fracas in #Chile - http://rww.to/ykCz99 market failure, as usualMar 14 17:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RetroShare: secure communications with friends - http://bit.ly/x2rFxY interesting #opensource project; needs more support (v @dtschmitz)Mar 14 17:05
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DaemonFC"fedsolutions" is following my blog?Mar 14 17:05
schestowitzoh, turns out we are on a  blogroll here: http://a-hackers-craic.blogspot.com/2012/01/browser.htmlMar 14 17:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: A Hacker's Craic: A browser ... ? .::. Size~: 39.54 KBMar 14 17:06
schestowitz« Top 10 Reasons to Switch to Windows  Mar 14 17:06
schestowitz  Grocklaw: Schwartz Publicly Praised Android as Java Platform »Mar 14 17:06
schestowitzSUSE & Patent FUD: Who Do We Boycott Now?Mar 14 17:06
schestowitzBy Christine HallMar 14 17:06
schestowitzNow that Microsoft and SUSE have announced they plan to continue sleeping together, I wonder if the folks at Techrights are rethinking their plans to pull the plug on Boycott Novell?Mar 14 17:06
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schestowitzMiss Hall seems to have gone awayMar 14 17:08
schestowitzhere's the apple/ms booster http://blogs.cio.com/iphone/16766/should-we-boycott-appleMar 14 17:09
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schestowitzhe holds shares of them and writers about themMar 14 17:09
schestowitzand bashes fossMar 14 17:09
schestowitzhttp://a-hackers-craic.blogspot.com/2012/02/crappy-stories-shitty-journalism-etc.htmlMar 14 17:10
TechrightsBot-trTitle: A Hacker's Craic: Crappy Stories, Shitty Journalism, etc. .::. Size~: 43.47 KBMar 14 17:10
schestowitzhttp://www.forbes.com/sites/timothylee/2012/03/05/save-the-cato-institute/Mar 14 17:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] [$] CAP_SYS_ADMIN: the new root http://ur1.ca/8ni38Mar 14 17:13
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schestowitzhttp://www.figuiere.net/hub/blog/?2012/03/12/817-the-inconvenience-of-air-travelMar 14 17:14
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schestowitz"Not only you now get charged for food in North America on flights (including long one) but airports are inconvenient to bring your own food or get food (not even asking quality at that point). Case in point, my flight to Toronto from Vancouver left from gate C51 in Vancouver. There, there is no food. You have to walk through the whole terminal to get something. And I have seen other instance of that in other airports. Not mentioning Mar 14 17:14
schestowitzthe security theater that decided that carrying a bottle of water was dangerous."Mar 14 17:14
schestowitzTSAMar 14 17:14
DaemonFCyeahMar 14 17:15
DaemonFCMcDisgusting at the airportMar 14 17:16
DaemonFCtwice as expensive as it is anywhere elseMar 14 17:16
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DaemonFCthey get yo gouge because you're tired, hungry, and not familiar with the surrounding areaMar 14 17:18
DaemonFC*toMar 14 17:18
DaemonFCI had an experience kind of like that several years agoMar 14 17:19
DaemonFCI was on a long bus ride and I got to the terminal in IndianapolisMar 14 17:19
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DaemonFCand I had like 3 hours to wait for the next busMar 14 17:19
schestowitzcan't sleepMar 14 17:20
schestowitzmight miss itMar 14 17:20
DaemonFCbut I was dead on my feet and the only food was something out of a vending machine or a McDonalds across the streetMar 14 17:20
schestowitzblechMar 14 17:20
schestowitzchoose your poisonMar 14 17:20
DaemonFCso I ended up eating McDonalds jsut because it seemed to be better than what the stuff in the vending machine looked likeMar 14 17:20
schestowitzThat's why I sometimes prepare food for flightsMar 14 17:20
schestowitz[for myself]Mar 14 17:20
DaemonFCthe only good thing about going by bus is, it's a lot cheaper than a planeMar 14 17:20
DaemonFCand you don't get the TSA treatmentMar 14 17:21
schestowitzplane is saferMar 14 17:21
DaemonFCor rapeyscanMar 14 17:21
schestowitzahMar 14 17:21
schestowitzright..Mar 14 17:21
schestowitzwe have those hereMar 14 17:21
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DaemonFChmmMar 14 17:22
DaemonFCthey have wifi on their buses nowMar 14 17:22
DaemonFCpower outlets tooMar 14 17:22
schestowitzhmm..Mar 14 17:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Juba: Announcing #Ushahidi v2.2 - http://bit.ly/zgo3s9 with #openstreetmap #opensourceMar 14 17:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Phone-hacking: how the 'rogue reporter' defence slowly crumbled http://gu.com/p/366k9Mar 14 17:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] I’m paid £25,000 to test sex toys http://goo.gl/QpM0yMar 14 17:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Wednesday's security updates http://ur1.ca/8nicpMar 14 17:33
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schestowitzno defence for ANdorid, eitherMar 14 17:36
schestowitzmeme watch http://www.androidguys.com/2012/03/13/will-the-nexus-s-ever-get-android-4-0/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+androidguyscom+%28AndroidGuys%29Mar 14 17:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Firefox 11 and Thunderbird 11 released http://ur1.ca/8nifrMar 14 17:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Huawei Prism Passes Through The FCC, We’ve Got The First Image http://ur1.ca/8niha #android #linuxMar 14 17:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Asus and Google launching Nexus Tablet in May? http://ur1.ca/8niiv #android #linuxMar 14 17:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Sabayon Linux Review: A Truly Delicious Flavor Of Linux! http://ur1.ca/8nikd #sabayon #linuxMar 14 17:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] William White: É surpreendente que tão poucos banqueiros tenham ido para a prisão-Jornal de negócios http://goo.gl/3lumD #bankingsystemMar 14 17:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Sabayon Linux Review: A Truly Delicious Flavor Of Linux! | Muktware .::. Size~: 41.56 KBMar 14 17:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Com tantos elogios a coisa deve estar para descambar... http://goo.gl/Qqb5v + http://goo.gl/94vNkMar 14 18:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @glynmoody RetroShare: secure communications with friends - http://bit.ly/x2rFxY interesting #opensource project; needs more support ...Mar 14 18:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] AT&T Threatens To Shut Off Service of Customer Who Won Throttling Case http://goo.gl/xRfd6Mar 14 18:03
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DaemonFCrecord high temperature for this dayMar 14 18:07
DaemonFC75 degreesMar 14 18:07
DaemonFCwe set that todayMar 14 18:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #CalculateLinux 11.15 was released! Now with GNOME 3. http://ur1.ca/8niqp #gnu #linuxMar 14 18:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @trashheap Congratulations !Debian on being the most used GNU/Linux web server OS. http://2tu.us/4rehMar 14 18:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Official slams Goldman Sachs as he quits: ‘Toxic’ culture, clients as ‘muppets’ http://ur1.ca/8nito revolving doors http://ur1.ca/8nitpMar 14 18:08
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Historical trends in the usage of Linux versions, March 2012 .::. Size~: 8.79 KBMar 14 18:08
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schestowitzBSD to give search results from MSFT http://www.prweb.com/releases/2012/3/prweb9276636.htmMar 14 18:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] CC Denmark's radio interview on CC license use by musicians & songwriters: http://ur1.ca/8niudMar 14 18:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] debian contributions to the linux kernel http://ur1.ca/8mn0p #debian #gnu #linuxMar 14 18:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Fedora 17 New Security Feature part VIII - New SELinux Domains in F17 http://ur1.ca/8niyc #fedora #redhat #linuxMar 14 18:16
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DaemonFCso does Linux Mint, schestowitzMar 14 18:16
DaemonFCbesides, PC-BSD is basically unusableMar 14 18:17
DaemonFCunless you have an Nvidia card and the Nvidia blobMar 14 18:17
schestowitzyeahMar 14 18:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @stav Happy !Birthday Albert Einstein (1879-1955). !Nobel !physicist #Pi !dayMar 14 18:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @BartHanssens Nog iets voor jou overigens: Belgische gegevens over verkeer op de baan. Enig idee?Mar 14 18:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @BartHanssens Heb morgenochtend meeting met @noelvan2. Ik ga er hem direct mee confronteren si ;)Mar 14 18:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] This week in #Fedora 17: Test Days galore http://ur1.ca/8nj0k #redhat #gnu #linuxMar 14 18:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] GIMP 2.7.5 (last test before GIMP 2.8) now available! http://ur1.ca/8ms1v #gimp #gnu #gtkMar 14 18:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Linux Kernel 3.2.11 Is Available for Download http://ur1.ca/8nj3r #linux #kernelMar 14 18:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: AdamW on Linux and more  » Blog Archive   » This week in Fedora 17: Test Days galore .::. Size~: 30.11 KBMar 14 18:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Oracle revs home-tweaked Linux kernel to 2.0 http://ur1.ca/8nj58 #oracle #linuxMar 14 18:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @schestowitz Linux Kernel 3.2.11 Is Available for Download http://ur1.ca/8nj3r #linux #kernelMar 14 18:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] The Global Journal covers education in digital times - Why Open Education Matters video competition: http://bit.ly/wNmzbM #OERMar 14 18:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @schestowitz: "GIMP 2.7.5 (last test before GIMP 2.8) now available! http://ur1.ca/8ms1v #gimp #gnu #gtk" /cc @kahenya @nj3ma @kelzOKOMar 14 18:30
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/91859646Mar 14 18:34
TechrightsBot-tr@حالة foonetic (lnxwalt280) (lnxwalt280) في يوم Wednesday, 14-Mar-12 18:32:27 UTC - 280: @schestowitz We all know Goldman Sachs is malevolent. What took that person so long to realize this?Mar 14 18:34
DaemonFCfilling their sacks with your goldMar 14 18:36
DaemonFCthat's how you can remember themMar 14 18:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Look at Linux, the operating system that is an universal platform http://ur1.ca/8nj76 #ibm #linuxMar 14 18:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Sign @accessnow petition to stop Pakistan's censorship plan: https://eff.org/r.5UV @bluecoatnews @huaweipress @ztepress #stopcensoringpkMar 14 18:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Iran Blamed For Major Cyberattack On BBC - Slashdot http://goo.gl/3zptH another #falseflag? - Courtesy reply? http://goo.gl/Q6fqzMar 14 18:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Shared a post "What Mark's graph looks like if you don't take most of the data out of it." http://ur1.ca/8njdk... http://b1t.it/a5C1Mar 14 18:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Cinnamon 1.4 Released With New Hot Corner Behaviour, More http://ur1.ca/8njg2 #gnome #gnu #linuxMar 14 18:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Idealism vs. pragmatism: Mozilla debates supporting H.264 video playback (ars technica) http://ur1.ca/8njjiMar 14 18:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] False flag attack during Obama administration? More likely than you think http://identi.ca/url/67951525Mar 14 18:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] AT&T Threatens To Shut Off Service of Customer Who Won Throttling Case - Slashdot http://goo.gl/R0Eip #telcos #mafiaa #corporatismMar 14 18:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Encyclopedias are like journalism: It’s better when they are open (GigaOm): http://bit.ly/yd9lXsMar 14 18:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Wayland's Weston Lands In Ubuntu 12.04 LTS http://ur1.ca/8njmy #ubuntu #waylandMar 14 18:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] RT @ncacensorship VICTORY! PayPal Lifts Ban on Erotic Books https://eff.org/r.4UX ♥ @EFF @freadom all who supported the effortMar 14 18:53
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sebsebseb Mar 14 18:57
sebsebsebhi jonoMar 14 18:57
sebsebsebjono: you doing a ustream or not today?Mar 14 18:57
DaemonFChttps://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2012-03-15_Gnome_Shell_and_ExtensionsMar 14 18:58
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sebsebsebDaemonFC: hmmMar 14 18:58
jonosebsebseb, noMar 14 18:59
sebsebsebDaemonFC: well I can't really take part in those properly at the moment I guessMar 14 18:59
sebsebsebjono: yeah been quite a while, I guess your busy with other stuff, oh and dealing with bad cable TV companies as well :D I read your blog post :)Mar 14 18:59
DaemonFChttp://www.jonobacon.org/2012/03/12/directtv-charge-you-to-fix-their-service-issues/Mar 14 19:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle: DirecTV Charge You To Fix Their Service Issues  |  jonobacon@home .::. Size~: 48.44 KBMar 14 19:00
DaemonFCif he had the protection plan, they wouldn'tMar 14 19:00
DaemonFCit's $5 a monthMar 14 19:00
sebsebsebDaemonFC: ohMar 14 19:01
DaemonFCit covers anything that happens to the dish, your cabling, or your receivers or remotesMar 14 19:01
DaemonFCand they don't charge you for the service callsMar 14 19:01
DaemonFCor reset your "committment period" if they have to replace equipmentMar 14 19:01
*sebsebseb just noticed a mistake he did two mistakes actualleyMar 14 19:02
sebsebseb[18:59] <sebsebseb> DaemonFC: well I can't really take part in those properly at the moment I guessMar 14 19:02
sebsebsebno that was meant to be about jono and to jono ^Mar 14 19:02
DaemonFCthe cost of the plan comes out to about what one service call would cost over the period of a yearMar 14 19:02
DaemonFCyeahMar 14 19:02
DaemonFCit's an insurance policyMar 14 19:02
sebsebsebactually why did I even type that hmmMar 14 19:02
sebsebsebnot sure nowMar 14 19:02
DaemonFCif you don't have any service calls that year, they make moneyMar 14 19:02
sebsebseboh wellMar 14 19:02
DaemonFCif you have one service call that year, you break evenMar 14 19:02
DaemonFCif you have more than one, you come out aheadMar 14 19:02
DaemonFCbecause without it, every call is roughly $70Mar 14 19:03
sebsebseboh that was about the Fedora test dayMar 14 19:03
sebsebsebof courseMar 14 19:03
sebsebseb:DMar 14 19:03
sebsebsebDaemonFC: so Gnome Shell worked in Ubuntu 11.10Mar 14 19:03
sebsebsebDaemonFC: after installing propritary Nivida driverMar 14 19:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] NetBSD 6.0_BETA binaries available for testing http://ur1.ca/8njtk #bsd #unixMar 14 19:03
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sebsebsebMageai 2 Beta 2 tommorow as well :)Mar 14 19:03
sebsebsebDaemonFC: and last night I helped with the installer texts properly and such so :D for the slide showMar 14 19:03
DaemonFCwho knows what will happen without it?Mar 14 19:03
sebsebsebDaemonFC: without what?Mar 14 19:04
DaemonFCmaybe you have to call them 4-5 times that year because shit keeps happeningMar 14 19:04
sebsebseboh the cable companyMar 14 19:04
DaemonFCand you're out $350 when the plan would have only cost you about $60Mar 14 19:04
DaemonFCjono should look into that protection planMar 14 19:04
DaemonFCthe plan covers just about anything that could likely happen to your equipmentMar 14 19:05
DaemonFClightning strikes the dish and fries it?Mar 14 19:05
DaemonFCfree replacementMar 14 19:05
DaemonFCyour remote control wears out?Mar 14 19:05
DaemonFCfree replacementMar 14 19:05
DaemonFCpower surge destroys your DVR?Mar 14 19:05
DaemonFCfree replacement and no "service committment" extensionMar 14 19:05
DaemonFCDirecTV isn't a cable companyMar 14 19:06
DaemonFCit is a satellite TV companyMar 14 19:07
DaemonFC:)Mar 14 19:07
DaemonFCsatellite TV has advantages and disadvantages compared with cableMar 14 19:07
DaemonFCAdvantages include better picture and sound quality, and a better selection of channelsMar 14 19:07
DaemonFCDisadvantages include, it has minimum service length agreements, and it can end up costing a bit moreMar 14 19:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Half-Life 2 Benchmarks On Linux Are Imminent http://ur1.ca/8njwe #linux #halflifeMar 14 19:08
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DaemonFCyou have to weigh the advantages against the disadvantages and determine if it's really the best dealMar 14 19:08
DaemonFCmost people who get satellite either live out in the boonies or want a sports package that the cable companies usually don't have because of the limit to the number of channels that the cable system can carryMar 14 19:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: 2/2 HU Media Council has to reopen tender. Will high music content get priority over pol http://p.ost.im/p/eCQAbMMar 14 19:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: 1/2 HU court also annuls 2nd decision of HU #Media Council re. frequency award of #Klubr http://p.ost.im/p/eXep37Mar 14 19:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: How can we support web entrepreneurs to launch grow? We're crowdsourcing ideas: http:// http://p.ost.im/p/eCqMa9Mar 14 19:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: Attention web entrepreneurs! We want yr ideas for how to support http://t.co/OhN0JLRt ht http://p.ost.im/p/eCsGuwMar 14 19:10
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DaemonFCwith satellite TV, there effectively is no limit to the number of channels they can carry, and they don't have to compress them heavily to get them to fit into the available bandwidth that your local cable company is constrained byMar 14 19:10
DaemonFCso the effect is, more channels in higher qualityMar 14 19:10
DaemonFCwith Comcast, the compression can be so severe that you start seeing MPEG artifacts in the pictureMar 14 19:11
DaemonFCsuch as "blocking"Mar 14 19:11
DaemonFCI've seen Comcast and the channels they carry can look like a divx rip of a DVD from The Pirate Bay sometimesMar 14 19:11
DaemonFCwith an HD channel on a satellite service, the picture quality can be equal to that of a Blu Ray discMar 14 19:13
DaemonFCplus, Comcast has franchises, so the customer service just totally depends on where you liveMar 14 19:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] " I'm skeptical that Microsoft is any better [ than Google is ] on the "big company freedom culture" front. " https://... http://b1t.it/a5EdMar 14 19:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] US soldier massacres 16 innocents in Afghanistan; now flown out of the country to escape justice; & they wonder why they get no respectMar 14 19:15
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DaemonFCthe franchise here in the town I live in likes to hand out 5-10 year old cable boxes and DVRs with maybe enough hard drive space to record a tenth as much TV as my DirecTV box can holdMar 14 19:15
DaemonFCand I've had Comcast hand me 3-4 boxes in a row that didn't even workMar 14 19:15
DaemonFCand were full of someone else's dust, dirt, and cat hairMar 14 19:15
DaemonFCand their cable internet system is so overloaded that it knocks you offline fairly regularlyMar 14 19:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] any attempts to extradite him to face trial will be ignored #US #doublestandardsMar 14 19:16
DaemonFCif jono wants to go with Comcast, I'm sure that something can be arranged B-)Mar 14 19:16
DaemonFCoh, and with Comcast, the 1-800-comcast people will sell you packages that aren't even available in your areaMar 14 19:17
DaemonFCthen when you ask the local franchise why you can't seem to get any of the channels you just tried to subscribe to, they say "Oh, haha, they sold you something we don't have"Mar 14 19:17
DaemonFC"They do that all the time"Mar 14 19:18
DaemonFCComcast is the shittiest, most third world cable TV company I've ever had the misfortune to deal with, and instead of fixing their shit, they just renamed themselves XFINITYMar 14 19:19
DaemonFCIt makes senseMar 14 19:19
DaemonFCHow high can they jack up your bill? XFINITY!Mar 14 19:19
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DaemonFChow long can you wait on your downloads? XFINITY!Mar 14 19:20
DaemonFChow long do you have to stand around with your thumb up your ass waiting for their "technician" to come out and probably fuck your shit up worse than it was before? XFINITY!Mar 14 19:20
DaemonFCprobably the only thing Comcast has over DirecTV is that they don't care what your credit report looks like and it always goes month to monthMar 14 19:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] How Richard Keys and Andy Gray rewrote history to get back in picture http://gu.com/p/3677jMar 14 19:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #NevilleThurlbeck, former News of the World chief reporter, arrested http://gu.com/p/367d6 the cesspit thickens #witnessintimidationMar 14 19:28
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DaemonFCalso, come to think of itMar 14 19:35
DaemonFCjono could have aligned the dish himselfMar 14 19:35
DaemonFCwith a little know how and a wrenchMar 14 19:35
DaemonFC:)Mar 14 19:35
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DaemonFCthe markings to align it with are clearly marked on the base of the dish itselfMar 14 19:36
DaemonFChe could have just asked where it needed to be pointingMar 14 19:36
DaemonFC"The manager who I escalated this to informed me that this was in the contract."Mar 14 19:37
DaemonFCWhich I'm sure he didn't read before he signed itMar 14 19:37
DaemonFCthis is all jono's faultMar 14 19:37
DaemonFC:)Mar 14 19:37
DaemonFChe's making an angry blog post to see if a DirecTV person will come along and make him an offer to go against the contract he signed in return for him taking down the inflammatory postMar 14 19:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] Original: Thunderbird 11 Released: Lots of Fixes, Frustratingly Few New Features http://t.co/obTcD138 #linuxMar 14 19:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] http://ur1.ca/8nkcy @nj3ma @kelzOKO @fredmanglis @dennisMungai @flintsoul @dammim @evansonwachira @brianngaira spread the wordMar 14 19:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RIAA chief: ISPs to start fighting piracy by July 12 - http://cnet.co/wV8Q8M what a waste of effortMar 14 19:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #RIAA & #MPAA - Fighting customers, creators, progress & reality since 1912 #SOPA #PIPA #ACTAMar 14 19:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @sandersch: @nightrose :-( my condolences.Mar 14 19:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @glynmoody: An “Internet of Things” Camera http://bit.ly/zHf6z5 rather cool; #arduino based (v @boingboing) @fredmanglis @kelzOKO @nj3maMar 14 19:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Using agile and open source software http://ur1.ca/8nkll #us #egov #opensourceMar 14 19:51
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DaemonFChttp://blogs.gnome.org/xclaesse/2011/12/19/updates-on-xmpp-support-in-msn/Mar 14 19:54
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DaemonFC"Thanks to the advice of a Microsoft developer, I even fixed the legal issue that prevented us to enable this by default."Mar 14 19:54
DaemonFChow nice of them :)Mar 14 19:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[torproject/@torproject] Good posts on how to avoid risk and protect online identity: https://blog.torproject.org/blog/avoid-risk-and-protect-online-identityMar 14 20:08
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DaemonFChttp://blog.jospoortvliet.com/2012/03/wine-gaming-on-nouveau.htmlMar 14 20:08
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DaemonFCeverything in the Command & Conquer: The First Decade compilation works under Wine with open source radeon driversMar 14 20:08
schestowitzI saw that..Mar 14 20:10
DaemonFChe mentioned problems with nouveau on Generals Zero HourMar 14 20:12
DaemonFCI played through that entire game with my radeon under Mesa 7.11Mar 14 20:13
DaemonFC(I have 8.1 snapshots now)Mar 14 20:13
DaemonFCOblivion works nowMar 14 20:14
DaemonFCbut it's too slow to playMar 14 20:14
DaemonFCup until Mesa 8.0 it was just random garbage on the screen when you went to play itMar 14 20:15
DaemonFCnow it at least renders properlyMar 14 20:15
DaemonFCI managed to get it up over 30 fps on low quality graphics mode with the Oldblivion pack installedMar 14 20:15
DaemonFCwhich was really meant for ancient GPUs that didn't support Oblivion in 2006Mar 14 20:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] AIM Is (Unofficially) Dead (Gizmodo): http://gizmo.do/zLClTPMar 14 20:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is sandersch from identi.ca with 79 dents!Mar 14 20:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] Meh. Cats don't have owners, they have personnel :-pMar 14 20:16
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schestowitz4 hours ago someone mailed me a compliment: "I was reading your Bio, when I grown up I want to be like you :p"Mar 14 20:18
schestowitzYesterday I got the message: "thank you very much for your work at techrights.."Mar 14 20:18
schestowitzRemember that word are, at least to me, always more valuable than almost anything. Mar 14 20:19
schestowitzWe are, after all,social creatures, we need love in the worldMar 14 20:19
schestowitzRianne is typing...Mar 14 20:19
schestowitzDaemonFC is snoring..Mar 14 20:19
schestowitzXFaCE is writing articles..Mar 14 20:19
schestowitzXFaCE: is it  OK for me to read and post?Mar 14 20:20
DaemonFCI'm not snoringMar 14 20:20
schestowitzI've been typing some article draftsMar 14 20:20
DaemonFCI think you're hearing my catMar 14 20:20
DaemonFChe snoresMar 14 20:20
schestowitzbut might just post it tomorrowMar 14 20:20
schestowitzDaemonFC: but you didn't talk for THREE MINUTESMar 14 20:20
schestowitzI thought you had fallen asleepMar 14 20:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Scientists tout 'open source' drug discovery http://ur1.ca/8nl41 #sharingMar 14 20:33
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sebsebsebschestowitz: so another Techbytes this weekend?Mar 14 20:33
DaemonFChttp://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/03/download-chrome-oss-50-new-wallpapers/Mar 14 20:36
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DaemonFC"Edit: It’s currently unclear as to what license the wallpapers are under, however it’s likely that, as with Android’s wallpapers, they are subject to some form of open license. "Mar 14 20:36
DaemonFCoh well, then that's just greatMar 14 20:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] !android clobbers #siri in #Japanese ... and #English! http://ur1.ca/8nl6z Wonder how @ramanusAsango will take this /cc @nj3ma @kelzOKOMar 14 20:41
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sebsebsebThistleWeb: about?Mar 14 20:43
ThistleWebyeahMar 14 20:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Firefox 11 released with Style Editor and 3D DOM viewer http://goo.gl/KjNmL #mozilla - i've just installed iceweasel 12a2Mar 14 20:45
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sebsebsebThistleWeb: when Mageia 2 comes out, will you mention it on cirvins?  or even have me on  your show to talk about it possibly?  yesterday I became the deputy leader of the Mageia marketing team by the way :)Mar 14 20:46
Formic_wicked, how is megeia 2Mar 14 20:46
Formic_is it still based off of the dying mandrake?Mar 14 20:47
sebsebsebFormic_: in developmentMar 14 20:47
sebsebsebMageia 2 Beta 2 tommorow :)Mar 14 20:47
sebsebsebThistleWeb: great show by the way :), but I got some catching up to doMar 14 20:47
DaemonFCsebsebseb: Does it have GRUB 2 yet?Mar 14 20:49
sebsebsebDaemonFC: noMar 14 20:49
ThistleWebsure, we'll time it to match the releaseMar 14 20:49
sebsebsebThistleWeb: ok cool :) so I'll mention cirvins in the podcast section  on our wiki then,  on the relivent marketing team pageMar 14 20:49
DaemonFCI wouldn't want to risk having /boot on XFS with GRUB legacyMar 14 20:50
sebsebsebpodcast section that I am now done for creating that is :DMar 14 20:50
sebsebsebDaemonFC: yes yes wellMar 14 20:50
sebsebsebGrub 2 boots up Mageia 1  for example no problem,  tried that out with Ubuntu 11.10 recentlyMar 14 20:50
ThistleWebsebsebseb: make sure to mention it's NSFWMar 14 20:50
Formic_I just got Ubuntu 11.10 yesterdayMar 14 20:50
sebsebsebThistleWeb: also I'll try and get it mentioend in Tuxjam as well :)Mar 14 20:50
sebsebsebThistleWeb: well yeah that's a pointMar 14 20:51
Formic_I decied to try unity before I kept bashing itMar 14 20:51
sebsebsebThistleWeb: May 3rd is the Mageia 2 release by the way :)Mar 14 20:51
DaemonFCSysinfo for 'ryan-MS-7501': Linux 3.2.0-18-generic running KDE Development Platform 4.8.1 (4.8.1), CPU: AMDPhenomIIX4945 at 800 MHz (5986 bogomips), HD: 31/915GB, RAM: 2789/7986MB, 172 proc's, 5.21h upMar 14 20:51
ThistleWebkMar 14 20:52
Formic_unity > gnome3Mar 14 20:52
sebsebsebDaemonFC: however  Grub 0.97 (patched by distros) trying to boot up Ubuntu for exampleMar 14 20:53
DaemonFCDead skunk on the side of the road > Unity > GNOME 3Mar 14 20:53
sebsebseba version that came with  Grub 2Mar 14 20:53
ThistleWebsebsebseb: we record with mumbleMar 14 20:53
sebsebsebthat seems to be a problem for people, something not tried out myself yet, but will be documentating on the Mageia wiki when I do :)Mar 14 20:53
sebsebsebor it's more of a Ubuntu's version of Grub 2 and issues something not suire quiteMar 14 20:54
sebsebsebThistleWeb: yep I know :)Mar 14 20:54
sebsebsebI can probably get set up with that as well since what it is Mar 14 20:54
DaemonFCUbuntu is still maintaining grub legacyMar 14 20:54
sebsebsebDaemonFC: are they?  Ubuntu is their version of Grub 2 since 9.10Mar 14 20:54
DaemonFCfor certain configurations and people who never switched over to Grub 2Mar 14 20:54
sebsebsebUbuntu do some sort of change to their version of Grub Mar 14 20:55
sebsebseb2Mar 14 20:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Havia uma outra espécie de humano na China até ao nascer da agricultura? - Ciências - PUBLICO.PT http://goo.gl/eIkHc #scitekMar 14 20:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Belgian rightsholders group wants to charge libraries for READING BOOKS TO KIDS http://ur1.ca/8n94v copy? Riiight...Mar 14 20:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Britannica is going away, but the future is bright with open collaboration and CC-licensed content on @wikipedia - http://goo.gl/7HiAIMar 14 20:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] In 'highly unusual' move, Marines asked to disarm before Leon Panetta speech http://goo.gl/FWLTJ #usa #mic - don't trust their troops?Mar 14 20:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] #Anonymous releases own !opensource desktop & !Linux based operating system - PanARMENIAN http://ping.fm/qd9xdMar 14 20:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Home Secretary Theresa May has approved the extradition to the US" http://ur1.ca/8nlfa she wasn't so ignorant when I spoke to her.Mar 14 20:55
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DaemonFCgrub (0.97-29ubuntu65) precise; urgency=lowMar 14 20:55
DaemonFC -- Colin Watson <cjwatson@ubuntu.com>  Tue, 27 Dec 2011 12:56:41 +0000Mar 14 20:55
sebsebsebthat can then cause issues with other distros,  or uh  not sure quite,  there was some forum posts on Mageia's, and  there's a guy who knows about this stuff properly, but he's not  started the wiki pageMar 14 20:55
DaemonFCCanonical provides critical updates for grub until March 2017.Mar 14 20:55
DaemonFC:)Mar 14 20:55
schestowitzThistleWeb: mur mur mur mur mur Mar 14 20:56
schestowitzI listened to the ogg today, good stuff, the link was broken for a long time last nightMar 14 20:56
sebsebsebschestowitz: So another Techbytes episode this weekend maybe?Mar 14 20:56
ThistleWebyeah I noticed about 2amMar 14 20:56
DaemonFCCanonical provides critical updates for lilo until March 2017.Mar 14 20:56
schestowitzsebsebseb: unlikelyMar 14 20:56
sebsebsebschestowitz: I thought you were going to meet him then or somethingMar 14 20:57
sebsebsebseems Techbytes is rather well dead for nowMar 14 20:57
schestowitzgoing to church for tim's dsughter's christeningMar 14 20:57
ThistleWebmy bad for being sloppy with the link - Crivins where it shoulda been all lower caseMar 14 20:57
sebsebseboh right I see nice :)Mar 14 20:57
schestowitzso going to her (and his) house on saturday, not to recordMar 14 20:57
ThistleWebit should be fine as of about 2amMar 14 20:57
sebsebseboh okMar 14 20:57
sebsebsebat schestowitzMar 14 20:57
schestowitzThistleWeb: always safer to cut and paste fromm templateMar 14 20:58
*sebsebseb waits for Techbytes to probably to come back from the dead like a zombie later this year probably :DMar 14 20:58
schestowitzthat's how i do it with techbytes, reduces likelihood of serious failures - links to audio broken are a common errorMar 14 20:58
schestowitzI always make sure I clock all those, as these links are very crucialMar 14 20:58
schestowitz*clickMar 14 20:58
ThistleWebyeah, I was sloppy, it happens lolMar 14 20:58
schestowitz:-pMar 14 20:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD @schestowitz: "Home Secretary Theresa May has approved the extradition to the US" http://ur1.ca/8nlfa wasn't so ignorant when I spoke ...Mar 14 21:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Cyborg Snail Turned Into Living Battery | Biofuel Cells Implant | Innovationnewsdaily http://goo.gl/i6B3L #matrix #scitek #energyMar 14 21:00
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DaemonFCno more news regarding whether Mandriva will file for bankruptcy or notMar 14 21:02
DaemonFCvery erratic and unpredictable companyMar 14 21:02
Formic_when all else fails get the tax payer to fund your debtMar 14 21:02
schestowitzheheMar 14 21:03
schestowitzso trueMar 14 21:03
schestowitzand reduce minimum wageMar 14 21:03
schestowitzthen you end up with communism but hail the success of extreme capitalismMar 14 21:03
schestowitzUSSR-type communismMar 14 21:03
sebsebsebschestowitz: ThistleWeb DaemonFC I haven't seen this properly yet, but I so got to see it properly :), it has Richard Stallman speaking in it :D. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=radmjL5OIaA&feature=youtu.beMar 14 21:03
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schestowitzfew super-rich SOBs stomping on many poor peopleMar 14 21:03
DaemonFChttp://blog.mandriva.com/en/2012/01/30/not-this-time/Mar 14 21:04
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DaemonFCApparently they're eeking by on a small bailout from the French governmentMar 14 21:04
sebsebsebDaemonFC: it seems Mandriva will be okMar 14 21:04
schestowitzyayMar 14 21:04
ThistleWebyeah it's an interesting interview as RMS always is, bryan didn't do himself any favours by taking cheap shots afterwards thoughMar 14 21:04
schestowitzhe did years agoMar 14 21:04
sebsebsebThistleWeb: agreed the stuff at the end hmmMar 14 21:05
schestowitz!google techrights linux action showMar 14 21:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] See the list of registered attendees for the Community Leadership Summit 2012 in July in Portland - http://is.gd/nuSh3Y #cls12Mar 14 21:05
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DaemonFCwell, every RMS interview, you have to skip past the first halfMar 14 21:05
Formic_Those who cast the votes decide nothing. Those who count the votes decide everything. - Josef StalinMar 14 21:05
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schestowitzhe also took cheat shots at meMar 14 21:05
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schestowitzusing words like "shit" IIRCMar 14 21:05
DaemonFCbecause he gives his hour long GNU Linux speech or somethingMar 14 21:05
sebsebsebschestowitz: ohMar 14 21:05
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2009/05/08/truth-about-linux-action-show/Mar 14 21:06
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schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2009/05/05/linux-sucks-fud/Mar 14 21:06
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schestowitzBryan is basically a troll, he would say things just to start a stormMar 14 21:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I'm not sure I want Instant Messaging in my email client, but it looks like !Thunderbird is giving it to me http://ping.fm/sy0d6Mar 14 21:06
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schestowitzIIRC he wrote about Fab associating him with Nazis or an apologist for racismMar 14 21:06
schestowitzand he made a rude blog post about itMar 14 21:07
schestowitzthen they fought, quickly they calmed it down and Bryan pulled down the blog postMar 14 21:07
sebsebsebschestowitz: Fab this guy? http://dehype.org/2012/ubuntu-design/Mar 14 21:07
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schestowitzso I cannot show you links really, I dented about it at the timeMar 14 21:07
schestowitzhttp://www.tuxmachines.org/node/53600Mar 14 21:08
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schestowitz"Mar 14 21:08
schestowitzLinux Outlaw’s Fab: “I will snap Lunduke’s puny arms in half”Mar 14 21:08
schestowitzLinux Outlaw’s Fab: “the thing the Nazis did at Auschwitz was mostly aimed at nose shapes”Mar 14 21:08
schestowitz"Mar 14 21:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Check out our newly revamped CC Education page! http://ur1.ca/8nlm3 #OERMar 14 21:08
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schestowitzSelf-explanatory, but these were pulled downMar 14 21:08
Formic_"A system of licensing and registration is the perfect device to deny gun ownership to the bourgeoisie." - LeninMar 14 21:10
Formic_"The way to crush the bourgeoisie is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation." - LeninMar 14 21:11
Formic_pretty amusing stuff Lenin saysMar 14 21:12
Formic_http://quotes.liberty-tree.ca/quotes_by/vladimir+ilyich+leninMar 14 21:12
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schestowitzwas Lenin smart?Mar 14 21:13
Formic_hes just a puppetMar 14 21:13
Formic_he even says soMar 14 21:13
Formic_"Behind the October Revolution there are more influential personalities than the thinkers and executors of Marxism."  - LeninMar 14 21:14
Formic_ie, Illuminati and masonsMar 14 21:14
DaemonFCFormic_ is really just enderMar 14 21:16
DaemonFCdo the mathMar 14 21:16
DaemonFCCanadianMar 14 21:16
DaemonFCobsessed with freemasonsMar 14 21:16
Formic_huh?Mar 14 21:17
Formic_ender of whatMar 14 21:17
XFaCEDaemonFC: Formic_ is not enderMar 14 21:18
XFaCEno more than msb__ isMar 14 21:18
ThistleWebLennon was a genius, the best Beatle by farMar 14 21:18
ThistleWeboh LeninMar 14 21:18
ThistleWebmy badMar 14 21:18
Formic_+1 LennonMar 14 21:18
XFaCEThistleWeb: George Harrison was the most "balanced"Mar 14 21:18
Formic_I have a special place for Ringo thoughMar 14 21:19
Formic_He was a great Mr ConductorMar 14 21:19
XFaCEFormic_: lolMar 14 21:19
Formic_so was Carlin thoMar 14 21:19
ThistleWebodd timing, but I did a blog post about Lennon yesterdayMar 14 21:19
XFaCEFormic_: To a shining time station, where dreams can come true. You know your imagination waiting there for you.Mar 14 21:19
Formic_lolMar 14 21:20
msb__ender and Formic_ are both in CanadaMar 14 21:20
Formic_"You know what I say? Fuck the children. He's not going to attack children is he? Yes I am. And I used to be Mr Conductor, I know what I'm talking about"Mar 14 21:20
ThistleWebthe only two people in Canada/Mar 14 21:20
Formic_i guess xface is also enderMar 14 21:21
Formic_and prurigroMar 14 21:21
msb__No -- Canada has only one person in it -- it's him!!!Mar 14 21:21
ThistleWebnot even a real country anyway #SouthParkMar 14 21:21
ThistleWebBLAME CANADA!Mar 14 21:21
Formic_same with cubezzzMar 14 21:21
msb__YES!Mar 14 21:21
DaemonFCtwo people and a bunch of mooseMar 14 21:21
DaemonFCand some really filthy oilMar 14 21:21
DaemonFC:)Mar 14 21:21
Formic_we're all just enders multiple personalitiesMar 14 21:21
XFaCEDaemonFC: I'm the sane oneMar 14 21:21
XFaCEbut not too saneMar 14 21:22
DaemonFCwell, how many of you troll #techrights and are obsessed with freemasons?Mar 14 21:23
DaemonFC:)Mar 14 21:23
XFaCEDaemonFC: My dad's father was a masonMar 14 21:23
XFaCEfreemason <> masonMar 14 21:23
XFaCEapparentlyMar 14 21:23
DaemonFCmy uncle is oneMar 14 21:23
XFaCEwhateverMar 14 21:23
ThistleWebfreemasons are surely better than the proprietarymasons right?Mar 14 21:23
XFaCEDaemonFC: Didn't mean to say that after you spoke. :PMar 14 21:23
XFaCEThistleWeb: lolMar 14 21:23
XFaCEThistleWeb: And they come from ScotlandMar 14 21:24
DaemonFCThistleWeb: But there's the GPLmasons and the BSDmasonsMar 14 21:24
ThistleWebyeah, sorry about thatMar 14 21:24
Formic_[17:23] <ThistleWeb> freemasons are surely better than the proprietarymasons right? +1Mar 14 21:24
XFaCEThistleWeb: Damn, it's all a conspiracyMar 14 21:24
DaemonFCand the two never get alongMar 14 21:24
Formic_lolMar 14 21:24
XFaCEWhat are the chances that the  only canadian and a scottish man come to this channel?Mar 14 21:24
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DaemonFCthough the GPLmasons and BSDmasons do work together sometimes when it's in their mutual interestsMar 14 21:25
msb__There are no coincidences!!!Mar 14 21:25
DaemonFCthe BSDmasons tried to rename themselves the freermasonsMar 14 21:25
Formic_I actually love coincidence theories more so than conspiracy theoriesMar 14 21:26
XFaCEmsb__: There is only one coincidenceMar 14 21:26
XFaCEFormic_: Err, same difference?Mar 14 21:26
Formic_xface, no a coincidence theory is when you say something happened by coincidence and wasn't a secret planMar 14 21:26
DaemonFChttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FreemasonryMar 14 21:27
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Formic_ie, the council of foreign relations getting exactly what they wanted on 9/11Mar 14 21:27
Formic_after publishing they needed another pearl harbour to start up foreign conquestMar 14 21:27
Formic_just a coincidence!Mar 14 21:28
ThistleWebfreemasons sounds like a group of builders expected to work for nothing; the trend didn't catch on with the short lived freecarpenters & freeplumbersMar 14 21:28
XFaCEThistleWeb: They are decended from actual stonemasonsMar 14 21:28
Formic_its also just a coincidence that bin laden was ex-ciaMar 14 21:28
ThistleWebwhy do i picture Homer in the stonecuttersMar 14 21:28
XFaCEThistleWeb: Who keeps the metric system down? WEEE Dooo WEEE dooo.Mar 14 21:28
msb__Formic_: Right!  A very good example of coincidence theory being BS.Mar 14 21:28
DaemonFCThistleWeb: What we really need are some freeelectriciansMar 14 21:28
XFaCEThistleWeb: lolMar 14 21:28
msb__Speaking seriously now.Mar 14 21:28
DaemonFCthose people really gougeMar 14 21:29
XFaCEThistleWeb: I was just thinking thatMar 14 21:29
XFaCEFormic_: Who cares what 911 really was? It's happenedMar 14 21:29
Formic_im more obsessed with reptoids (www.reptoids.com) than I am of masons anywayMar 14 21:29
XFaCEDo you think if the ultimate truth was revealed, every minutia, that it would make a difference?Mar 14 21:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Google & Facebook began trial in #India yesterday for failing to take down "objectionable" content https://eff.org/r.U6Z #netfreedomMar 14 21:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Até já- Opinião - Jornal de negócios online http://goo.gl/YLVNX #energy #pt #corporatismMar 14 21:30
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XFaCEThey would shrug it offMar 14 21:30
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XFaCEFormic_: That's what happens, media buzz, then people forgetMar 14 21:30
DaemonFCWell, there was the whole Katrina thing and criticism that FEMA took too long to respondMar 14 21:30
XFaCEDaemonFC: I put that down to incompetenceMar 14 21:30
Formic_DaemonFC - FEMA spent too much of its federal budget on FEMA coffinsMar 14 21:30
DaemonFCmaybe if some of the people would have quit looting and shooting at the rescue workers...Mar 14 21:30
Formic_thats why they were slowMar 14 21:31
XFaCEFormic_: That's my problem with 911 truthersMar 14 21:31
Formic_im no 911 trutherMar 14 21:31
XFaCEFormic_: Whether or not something happened is irrelevant because we now live in a world that was affected by the events. That is the realityMar 14 21:31
Formic_to me, its just one of the many plans that could or could not be trueMar 14 21:31
msb__XFaCE: What 911 was is very important.  It was the key event to terrorized the world.  But actually the US and Israel did it!Mar 14 21:31
XFaCEKnowing what really happened changes nothingMar 14 21:31
ThistleWebmy problem is that they itch like hell, ya just can't scratch it enough to stop the damn itch......it forces you to buy creame from a FoxNews sponsorMar 14 21:31
Formic_msb__ nope, bin laden DID do it, but under ordersMar 14 21:32
ThistleWebbest to just stay awayMar 14 21:32
XFaCEThistleWeb: Agreed, let's change the topicMar 14 21:32
XFaCECarl Sagan is the cure for depressionMar 14 21:32
msb__Formic_: Bin Laden could not have planted the explosives and thermite.Mar 14 21:32
Formic_msb__ because there weren't anyMar 14 21:32
XFaCEThistleWeb: You know when you read a lot of depressing articles about the declining world, and a part of you dies?Mar 14 21:33
XFaCEThistleWeb: After watching Carl Sagan explain things, it's like that part is regeneratedMar 14 21:33
msb__Formic_: See the evidence described and linked here:  http://cosmicpenguin.com/911/Mar 14 21:33
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ThistleWebparts of me die every day regardless.....luckily skin is designed to die, to be replaced with a fresh layerMar 14 21:33
XFaCEThistleWeb: His optimism and intelligence, his calmness and passionMar 14 21:33
*ThistleWeb salutes the reptile godsMar 14 21:33
XFaCEThistleWeb: I meant metaphoricallyMar 14 21:33
ThistleWebahhMar 14 21:33
Formic_msb__ I've looked, im more willing to believe in hologram planes than your thermite theoryMar 14 21:34
XFaCEThistleWeb: Like the stress feeling in your stomach before an examMar 14 21:34
XFaCEThistleWeb: You know Carl Sagan?Mar 14 21:34
XFaCE*you;ve heard of?Mar 14 21:34
ThistleWebI've read the odd carl segan bookMar 14 21:34
ThistleWebsifi writerMar 14 21:35
XFaCEThistleWeb: actually, he was a real scientishMar 14 21:35
XFaCEscientistMar 14 21:35
XFaCEhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnURElCzGc0Mar 14 21:35
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msb__Formic_: Thermite -- actually thermitic material -- is fact, not theory.  Read the research paper:  http://www.benthamscience.com/open/tocpj/articles/V002/7TOCPJ.pdfMar 14 21:35
Formic_I know thermite is realMar 14 21:35
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Formic_it being in the towers is what I don't believeMar 14 21:36
XFaCEThistleWeb: try that oneMar 14 21:36
ThistleWebscientish sounds like a special meal served to scientology members as an object lesson, made from desenting scientologistsMar 14 21:36
XFaCEThistleWeb: great explaination, great atmosphereMar 14 21:36
XFaCEThistleWeb: Seriously though, I love this video. :)Mar 14 21:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Fake YouTube site targets Syrian activists with malware, by @headhntr and @EFF's @evacide: https://eff.org/r.4UY #privacy #SyriaMar 14 21:36
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msb__Formic_: The finding of thermitic material in the 911 dust is real.Mar 14 21:36
msb__A hologram cannot appear darker than the sky behind it, which the planes were.Mar 14 21:37
msb__Formic_: You have been taken in by this bunch of disinfo artists:  http://cosmicpenguin.com/911/disinfo.htmlMar 14 21:38
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Formic_I was just using it as an exampleMar 14 21:38
ThistleWebthe thing with any conspiracy theory, is that all sides have their minds set on what they believe - they will dismiss anything that doesn't fit their versionMar 14 21:38
Formic_I don't believe any of the alternative theories surrounding 9/11 other than Bin Laden being on the CIA payrollMar 14 21:38
ThistleWeball it is, is a circular talking point that serves no purposeMar 14 21:38
XFaCEThistleWeb: did you try the vid?Mar 14 21:39
XFaCEThistleWeb: And I agreeMar 14 21:39
Formic_its a waste of time arguing about all of the different ways it might have been done without planesMar 14 21:39
ThistleWebwell......actually it does serve a purpose of wasting people's timeMar 14 21:39
ThistleWebabe lincholn was on the grassy knoll when JFK was killed don'tcha knowMar 14 21:40
msb__All people have to do is read the facts.Mar 14 21:40
ThistleWebI saw the picturesMar 14 21:40
Formic_no no noMar 14 21:40
ThistleWebkermet the frog was also thereMar 14 21:40
Formic_Cancer man was on the grassy knollMar 14 21:40
Formic_(From x-files)Mar 14 21:40
msb__The 911 research, and the JFK research is full of FACTS.Mar 14 21:41
ThistleWebterrance & philip from south park were in the book repositoryMar 14 21:41
Formic_JFK official story was even debunked by jesse venturaMar 14 21:41
ThistleWebtherein lies the point, what YOU consider facts, others don't and vice versaMar 14 21:41
msb__And the only way one can deny those facts is to refuse to access them, and spew BS.Mar 14 21:41
msb__ThistleWeb: Then access the info, and explain why it isn't factual.Mar 14 21:42
ThistleWebpeople's minds are set on what version they see as rightMar 14 21:42
ThistleWebI don't careMar 14 21:42
ThistleWebI seriously don't fucking careMar 14 21:42
ThistleWebit could be republicans ordering the attacks through anal probes from ETMar 14 21:42
ThistleWebI don't careMar 14 21:42
Formic_your right thistlewebMar 14 21:43
XFaCEThistleWeb: The damage is doneMar 14 21:43
ThistleWebI'm not gonna waste the click of a mouse to go looking into a site apparently "full of the real facts"Mar 14 21:43
ThistleWeblet alone start reading any of itMar 14 21:43
msb__ThistleWeb: If you don't care whether US and Israel did 911, and used it as the excuse to murder 2,000,000 people in Afghanistan and Iraq, then I think you should take a serious look at yourself.Mar 14 21:43
Formic_everyone says their facts are the factsMar 14 21:43
Formic_you could find an arguement to support yourself no matter what idea you have, on the internetMar 14 21:43
msb__Formic_: Then read the info and disprove it if you think it's wrong.Mar 14 21:44
ThistleWebI now remember why I ignored your dellusional ass beforeMar 14 21:44
msb__Formic_: But if you refuse to look at it and do that, then you have been brainwashed.Mar 14 21:44
*XFaCE gives voice to ThistleWebMar 14 21:44
*XFaCE gives voice to abeNd-orgMar 14 21:44
*XFaCE gives voice to DaemonFCMar 14 21:44
*XFaCE gives voice to Diablo-D3Mar 14 21:44
*XFaCE gives voice to gde33Mar 14 21:44
*XFaCE gives voice to jonoMar 14 21:44
*XFaCE gives voice to Formic_Mar 14 21:44
Formic_msb__ the problem with scientific studies is that the layman can't prove or disprove itMar 14 21:44
*XFaCE gives voice to sebsebsebMar 14 21:44
*XFaCE gives voice to schestowitzMar 14 21:44
*XFaCE gives channel operator status to ThistleWebMar 14 21:45
Formic_you have to put your faith in the scientists who did the workMar 14 21:45
msb__Formic_: No, the science is not difficult.  You can learn it in wikipedia, etc.Mar 14 21:45
ThistleWebthat's why, as "msb" you still ARE ignored......time to update it with the extra __sMar 14 21:45
Formic_wikipedia is not credibleMar 14 21:45
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Formic_I could publish a pseudo science study and back it up with my own changes to wikpediaMar 14 21:45
msb__wiki is not credible about false-flag ops, etc., but it is credible about the standard scientific techniques used, e.g., to analyze the 911 dust.Mar 14 21:46
Formic_how do I personally know those standard scientific techniques even work?Mar 14 21:46
Formic_unless I do them myselfMar 14 21:46
ThistleWebcredible when it proves your prefered version of the story, but not about conflicting stuffMar 14 21:46
ThistleWebi see wikipedia as a great overall grounding on a subject, but not conspiracy theoriesMar 14 21:47
Formic_all you can know for sure is what you've experienced doing yourselfMar 14 21:47
Formic_reading about it doesn't workMar 14 21:47
ThistleWebother than a "these are various theories"Mar 14 21:47
Formic_you need to believe or put faith in others who could be lyingMar 14 21:47
msb__Formic_: , ThistleWeb: what you are saying here is refusal to think.Mar 14 21:47
ThistleWebwhen anything claims it's the "real and only truth" about any conspiracy theory, I call bullshit without bothering to waste time reading itMar 14 21:47
ThistleWebno, it's the refusal to be deludedMar 14 21:48
*XFaCE gives voice to scientesMar 14 21:48
Formic_refusal to accept something without experienceMar 14 21:48
ThistleWebif that's the best you have; try the gult trip "look at yourself if you dont care about these lives" or the insult of "you don;'t think" you gotta do betterMar 14 21:49
ThistleWebseriouslyMar 14 21:49
Formic_thistleweb  +1Mar 14 21:49
ThistleWebthe only way conspiracys can flourish, is if there's lots of doubt on different anglesMar 14 21:50
ThistleWebso anyone ignoring that basic concept to claim "we know the truth" is bullshitMar 14 21:50
ThistleWebeveryone with an opposing version of events claims they know the truthMar 14 21:50
Formic_if they say they know the truth they are lyingMar 14 21:50
ThistleWebpick what team ya wanna troll for and go for itMar 14 21:50
ThistleWebthe upside, is that it draws you lot into arguments off in a corner somewhere like moths to a flame, leaving the rest of the internet for the rest of us normal people who don't care, and just wanna do shitMar 14 21:51
Formic_its a divide and conquer strategyMar 14 21:52
msb__Denying that the truth is knowable is a very convenient excuse for ignoring the data and for refusing to think.Mar 14 21:52
Formic_get people fighting with each other about stupid shitMar 14 21:52
ThistleWebwhat you're doing is trying to convert folks with the same vague ideas.......try going into a christian channel and arguing their god is wrong, and that islam is the only true godMar 14 21:52
Formic_msb__ I do think, thank you very much. I'm not an information repeater.Mar 14 21:52
msb__The murders of 2,000,000 people for fraudulent reasons is not "stupid shit".Mar 14 21:52
ThistleWebyou seem to have convinced yourselves that we give a shitMar 14 21:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] I'm not trying to start a fight. Please choose ...Mar 14 21:53
Formic_fighting about no-planes, thermite or holograms is stupid shit when the end result is the sameMar 14 21:53
ThistleWebmay wanna rethink that assumptionMar 14 21:53
ThistleWeb<msb__> The murders of 2,000,000 people for fraudulent reasons is not "stupid shit". << back to the attempted guilt trip? you're stuck like a fucking broken recordMar 14 21:54
Formic_hes also wrong about us not thinkingMar 14 21:54
Formic_its impossibleMar 14 21:54
msb__Formic_: The end result is not the same.  If people find out that 911 and all the murders were done by US and Israel, and that they've been lied to enormously, then they will not be willing to go along with the other NWO schemes to bring about total world fascism.Mar 14 21:55
ThistleWebyou already failed with tactics 1 and 2.....as i pointed out......yet you think trying tactic 1 again will work......I think well enough to analyse your shit, then call you out on it....twiceMar 14 21:55
Formic_msb__ so the end result would be different if they used holograms instead of thermite?Mar 14 21:55
Formic_derpy derp derpMar 14 21:56
ThistleWeband you say we don't thinkMar 14 21:56
ThistleWebas apple say "think different"Mar 14 21:56
msb__Many people have enough scientific background to know that the planes could not have been holograms.  So if you say they were, that discredits the real factual 911 research.Mar 14 21:56
ThistleWebeither way, I've had it with this bullshit, time to evoke the ignore spellMar 14 21:57
ThistleWebdo us a favour, don't change your nick TYVMMar 14 21:57
Formic_do it based on is hostMar 14 21:57
ThistleWebif he does change it, I willMar 14 21:58
msb__I don't know why the irc system adds underscores.  Mar 14 21:58
msb__I do not do it purposely.Mar 14 21:58
Formic_msb__ it doesntMar 14 21:58
Formic_l2ircMar 14 21:58
ThistleWebI see it as a basic layer of ettiquete, when he knows people ignore him, it's polite not to try and evade thatMar 14 21:59
Formic_konversation does thatMar 14 21:59
msb__If my isp goes down, when I log back in sometimes it says the nick is already in use and adds underscores.Mar 14 22:00
Formic_yeah konversation does thatMar 14 22:00
Formic_learn how to use irc, you can have it auto kick you off so you can get your name backMar 14 22:00
msb__Formic_: I am using konversation.   If there's a way to log in without the underscores, tell me how.Mar 14 22:00
msb__Tell me how specifically.Mar 14 22:00
Formic_#freenodeMar 14 22:01
Formic_theres a way of logging into the server while connecting that drops off your old dead connectionMar 14 22:02
ThistleWebwow, a conspiracy nut who doesn't know how to troll in secret with the tinfoil hat on the connection?Mar 14 22:02
ThistleWebthat's.........competentMar 14 22:02
ThistleWebyou'd think people with real insights or secrets "might" actually learn to do thatMar 14 22:02
msb__I don't do anything in secret.  And I don't troll.  I give the best and most accurate info that I can find and verify.Mar 14 22:03
Formic_I haven't done it in a while and I don't really feel like looking that up when you canMar 14 22:03
Formic_I told you its possible, so use your superior thinking brain to figure it out.Mar 14 22:03
msb__I've tried researching it, but haven't found an answer.  The instructions given for various irc commands seem to be inaccurate.Mar 14 22:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Microsoft is about to drive a wedge into the mobile market — by using patents to try to hamper !Android's success http://j.mp/yPMaHgMar 14 22:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Is Aaron Seigo the open source To m Green?Mar 14 22:06
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msb__How do other irc clients than konversation re-login without adding underscores?Mar 14 22:06
msb__If you don't want to see my words here, just ignore msb, msb_, msb__, and msb___.   That should do it.Mar 14 22:08
Formic_msb__ im in #freenode and they say you can write a scriptMar 14 22:08
Formic_  with this command "/msg NickServ GHOST foo bar"Mar 14 22:08
msb__Then your worldview will not be disturbed.Mar 14 22:08
Formic_Syntax: GHOST <nick> [password]Mar 14 22:09
ThistleWebye gods, don't mention ghosts, that'll set off his Matrix or "Ghost in the shell" angle to 911Mar 14 22:09
Formic_msb_ you can't ghost kill yourself so its safe to have it always load on connectMar 14 22:10
ThistleWebabout us all being programs within programs within a machine running on windows from ET's left testicleMar 14 22:10
msb__How would anime' "Ghost in the Shell" be connected to 911?Mar 14 22:10
Formic_brb gonna tes thtisMar 14 22:10
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Formic_msb__ it worked, put that in "Command" in your freenode configMar 14 22:11
Formic_"Commands"Mar 14 22:12
XFaCEFormic_: dammit, now I have to voice you again. work work work!Mar 14 22:12
*XFaCE gives voice to Formic_Mar 14 22:12
msb__Where is freenode config?Mar 14 22:12
Formic_then when konversation reconnects it will ghost kill your nickMar 14 22:12
msb__What is all this "permission to talk" stuff?Mar 14 22:12
ThistleWebXFaCE: sing a little ditty, it helps pass the time "hi ho, hi ho, it's off to work I go"Mar 14 22:12
Formic_File > Server ListMar 14 22:12
XFaCEThistleWeb: lolMar 14 22:12
Formic_Click Freenode > EditMar 14 22:13
ThistleWebworks better if you have some tool to rest over your shoulderMar 14 22:13
Formic_if you see the auto join channels list you're in the right placeMar 14 22:13
XFaCEtyping with one handMar 14 22:13
ThistleWeband if you can whistleMar 14 22:13
Formic_im not sure how you do multiple commandsMar 14 22:13
Formic_you'll probably want to have a nick change in there too, in case the ghost kill worksMar 14 22:13
ThistleWebI'd tell ya, but it's a conspiracyMar 14 22:14
ThistleWebif I told ya, I'd have to kill yaMar 14 22:14
ThistleWebbut I could point you to some freenode documentation that contains the real truthMar 14 22:14
*ThistleWeb gigglesMar 14 22:14
Formic_thistleweb - welcome to #techrights - the new Freenode/KDE/Konversation support channelMar 14 22:14
msb__Please give me exact instructions.Mar 14 22:14
scienteshey guysMar 14 22:14
Formic_jesus christ msb__Mar 14 22:15
Formic_I thought you think!Mar 14 22:15
ThistleWebnot JC tooMar 14 22:15
XFaCEscientes: whaMar 14 22:15
ThistleWeb:(Mar 14 22:15
ThistleWebthat's all we needMar 14 22:15
msb__Formic_: I'm glad you've finally recognized me!Mar 14 22:15
ThistleWebwas he on one of the planes? an assasination plot?Mar 14 22:15
Formic_LOLMar 14 22:16
msb__Formic_: Yes, I think, but that doesn't mean I can successfully guess the voodoo for irc.Mar 14 22:16
ThistleWebdamn jews, not content with killing him onceMar 14 22:16
ThistleWebsorry, channelled Eric Cartman thereMar 14 22:16
XFaCEjc is jewishMar 14 22:16
Formic_msb__ I'd be scared of showing you some bashMar 14 22:16
ThistleWebI knowMar 14 22:16
XFaCEThe sky is blue!Mar 14 22:17
Formic_if irc  and konversation are hardMar 14 22:17
msb__Formic_: I'm well familiar with bash and C.Mar 14 22:17
ThistleWebno it's not.....gimmie some truther site or the sky isn't blueMar 14 22:17
Formic_msb__ http://userbase.kde.org/Konversation/Scripts/GhosttrickMar 14 22:17
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Formic_KDE 3.5 instructions tooMar 14 22:18
Formic_:)Mar 14 22:18
msb__Formic_: thanksMar 14 22:18
ThistleWebactually, here it's not.....albeit it's like 10:20pm so being night time "might" be a factor in explaining why the sky isn't blueMar 14 22:18
Formic_msb__ you'll still need to figure out how to put that in your "Commands" field in the server connection managerMar 14 22:20
Formic_if you know where the auto join channels options are, you'll find itMar 14 22:20
ThistleWebI'd love to see a Toothers meeting, where they all gather to spread the truth about dentists.....that they're actually all aliens taking over the world one customer at a time, that's the REAL tooth behind fillingsMar 14 22:20
ThistleWebthe fillings are actual living organismsMar 14 22:20
Formic_toothers +!Mar 14 22:20
Formic_+1Mar 14 22:20
msb__How do other irc clients avoid this problem?Mar 14 22:21
msb__And where do I get a password?Mar 14 22:21
Formic_msb__ they dontMar 14 22:21
ThistleWebnot to be confused with orgasms, which many of the toothers will be also alien to and wouldn't recognise if it bit them on the assMar 14 22:21
msb__Formic_: So they make underscores?Mar 14 22:21
Formic_no clients I know of that auto ghost kill your old nicksMar 14 22:21
Formic_they might just not connectMar 14 22:21
ThistleWebirc is like speed, disconnect and your brain flat linesMar 14 22:22
Formic_or use soemthing else to suffix to your nameMar 14 22:22
msb__But then wouldn't you complain if you're trying to killfile me?Mar 14 22:22
Formic_msb__ you get your password from nickservMar 14 22:23
Formic_"/msg nickserv help"Mar 14 22:23
Formic_"/msg nickserv help register"Mar 14 22:23
Formic_[18:17] <msb__> Formic_: I'm well familiar with bash and C.Mar 14 22:24
Formic_im not, I suck at bothMar 14 22:25
Formic_irc isnt hard thoughMar 14 22:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Mar 14 22:31
msb__How do I register msb when my current nick is msb__ ?Mar 14 22:36
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Formic_you can'tMar 14 22:37
Formic_you need to change nicks firstMar 14 22:37
msb__Arrgghh!Mar 14 22:37
msb__How do I do that?Mar 14 22:37
*Formic_ facepalmsMar 14 22:38
Formic_"/nick whatever"Mar 14 22:38
msb__It says:  Nickname already in use, try a different one.Mar 14 22:38
ThistleWebcareful now, yer dealing with a superior interlect thereMar 14 22:38
Formic_oh lolMar 14 22:38
Formic_someone really is using that nameMar 14 22:39
Formic_Mandeep BainesMar 14 22:39
DaemonFChaving an argument with the houseplants again?Mar 14 22:39
DaemonFCtsk tskMar 14 22:39
Formic_[18:38] [Whois] msb is msb@nat/google/x-enlnsmhyzcoxumvd (Mandeep Baines)Mar 14 22:39
Formic_you might as well just stick with msb__Mar 14 22:39
Formic_you won't be evading thistles ignore that way eitherMar 14 22:40
Formic_Mandeep S Baines has every right to "msb" that you doMar 14 22:42
Diablo-D3>mandeepMar 14 22:42
Diablo-D3lawlzMar 14 22:42
Formic_yeah lolMar 14 22:42
Diablo-D3besides you're both wrongMar 14 22:42
Diablo-D3msb stands for most significant byteMar 14 22:42
Formic_whats the most significant byte?Mar 14 22:43
Formic_!google what is the most significant byteMar 14 22:45
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Most significant bit - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Most_significant_bitMar 14 22:45
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Endianness - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EndiannessMar 14 22:45
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - What is most significant bit or byte? Definition from WhatIs.com - see ... | http://whatis.techtarget.com/definition/0,,sid9_gci901151,00.htmlMar 14 22:45
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - most significant byte - Wiktionary | http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/most_significant_byteMar 14 22:45
Diablo-D3(or bit)Mar 14 22:45
msb__It says msb__ is already registered.  Maybe I did that last week while trying to figure this stuff out.Mar 14 22:47
Diablo-D3you shouldnt register variations on people's nicksMar 14 22:48
Diablo-D3nor should you use nicks that can be confused for othersMar 14 22:48
Diablo-D3msb is actually a well known hackerMar 14 22:48
Formic_he works for googleMar 14 22:48
msb__It's also my initials.Mar 14 22:48
Formic_so is hisMar 14 22:48
Diablo-D3then find new initials.Mar 14 22:48
Formic_lolMar 14 22:48
msb__Formic_: just said stick with msb__Mar 14 22:49
Formic_Mandeep Singh Baines = msbMar 14 22:49
Formic_hes actually rightMar 14 22:49
Formic_why not use MarkSBilk as a nickMar 14 22:49
Formic_or just MarkBilkMar 14 22:49
XFaCEmicheal sebastian somethingMar 14 22:49
Formic_hard to find a dupe of that oneMar 14 22:49
msb__Too long, and too exposed.Mar 14 22:52
Formic_you said you got nothing to hideMar 14 22:52
Formic_its only 8 charsMar 14 22:52
msb__Doesn't feel right in an environment where almost everyone hides behind a pseudonym.Mar 14 22:52
Formic_I'd be more worried about having my address posted than the use of my real nameMar 14 22:53
msb__Well that's exposed too.Mar 14 22:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] How To Catch BitTorrent Pirates, A Trolling Course http://goo.gl/odXGSMar 14 22:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: How To Catch BitTorrent Pirates, A Trolling Course | TorrentFreak .::. Size~: 28.81 KBMar 14 22:53
msb__That's why I live on Mars.Mar 14 22:53
XFaCEhow about "MagicSchoolBus"?Mar 14 22:54
msb__Actually, only my summer home is on Mars.Mar 14 22:54
Formic_unless you, you know, do a yellowpages search with the number in your whoisMar 14 22:54
Formic_stuff im sure the NWO has the capabilities of doingMar 14 22:54
msb__It's in one of langenberg.com's whitepages directly.Mar 14 22:55
Formic_their agents probably know how to register nickservMar 14 22:55
msb__Of course the NWO/govt knows where I am.Mar 14 22:55
Formic_MewtwoStrikesBackMar 14 22:56
Formic_Pokemon!Mar 14 22:56
msb__What is all this "permission to talk" stuff I see sometimes?Mar 14 22:56
Formic_msb__ exactly what you think it isMar 14 22:56
msb__I have no idea what it is, since the people named are already talking.Mar 14 22:56
Formic_if a troll joins and the channel goes into lock down, only those people can talkMar 14 22:56
msb__Why not just kick the troll out?Mar 14 22:57
Formic_they might ban evadeMar 14 22:57
Formic_switch nicks, join back upMar 14 22:58
Formic_switch ident, join back upMar 14 22:58
Formic_log in via web, join back upMar 14 22:58
Formic_etcMar 14 22:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Since The #RIAA & #MPAA Say That A Copy Is Just As Valuable As The Original, Send Them A Copy Of Money http://goo.gl/E6eJ4 #brilliantMar 14 22:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Japan's Shocking Keynesian Slip: "We Are Worse Than Greece" | ZeroHedge http://goo.gl/1UjFZ #collapseMar 14 22:58
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Since The RIAA & MPAA Say That A Copy Is Just As Valuable As The Original, Send Them A Copy Of Money | Techdirt .::. Size~: 146.58 KBMar 14 22:58
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Japan's Shocking Keynesian Slip: "We Are Worse Than Greece" | ZeroHedge .::. Size~: 172.01 KBMar 14 22:58
msb__So what was the purpose of all those permission to talk messages an hour and 12 minutes ago?Mar 14 22:58
msb__Am I the "troll"?Mar 14 22:58
Formic_you have operatorMar 14 22:59
schestowitzmsb__ is a troll.......................................... killerMar 14 22:59
Formic_oddly enoughMar 14 22:59
msb__I'm an operator?????Mar 14 22:59
Formic_though im pretty sure you dont know how to kick people outMar 14 22:59
msb__How did I get to be one?Mar 14 23:00
schestowitzmsb__:                                                                       .MSIMar 14 23:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Troika Finds #Greece Already Likely To Miss Bailout Budget Targets | ZeroHedge http://goo.gl/URS7e #collapseMar 14 23:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Does Anyone Who Develops New Products In Hollywood Ask 'Would I Ever Actually Use This?' http://goo.gl/PlPKiMar 14 23:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Troika Finds Greece Already Likely To Miss Bailout Budget Targets | ZeroHedge .::. Size~: 167.31 KBMar 14 23:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Does Anyone Who Develops New Products In Hollywood Ask 'Would I Ever Actually Use This?' | Techdirt .::. Size~: 202.88 KBMar 14 23:00
msb__I certainly don't know how to do any operator stuff!Mar 14 23:00
MinceRschestowitz: hi.jpg                                                          .exeMar 14 23:00
schestowitzmsb____________________________________SPYWARE.EXEMar 14 23:00
schestowitzclick to runMar 14 23:01
DaemonFCI noticed that Demonoid is now peddling some kind of Windows spywareMar 14 23:01
schestowitzOutlook assumes email messages are binary tranmissionMar 14 23:01
schestowitz"pull my finger"Mar 14 23:01
DaemonFCunfortunate that they went there to get moneyMar 14 23:01
Formic_msb__ "/kick msb__"Mar 14 23:01
*schestowitz ducksMar 14 23:01
Formic_that lets you keep your nameMar 14 23:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks GI Files: «Είχαμε για χρόνια την κυπριακή υπηρεσία στο μισθολόγιό μας» - Ta Nea (Greece) | http://t.co/xwPq0I4J #gifilesMar 14 23:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] #SunshineWeek: How EFF's #FOIA work has shined light on government activities in the last year https://eff.org/r.2VaMar 14 23:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] A pleasure. May find a way to say it again somewhere else seen ;-)Mar 14 23:01
DaemonFCsomething claiming to be a "one click downloader" that points to an EXE fileMar 14 23:01
msb__Formic_: I don't think I want to do that.Mar 14 23:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: «Είχαμε για χρόνια την κυπριακή υπηρεσία στο μισθολόγιό μας» - Ελλάδα .::. Size~: 74.03 KBMar 14 23:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Sunshine Week: EFF's FOIA Work Shines Light on Government Activities in 2011 | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 42.97 KBMar 14 23:01
DaemonFCthose always smell of malwareMar 14 23:01
schestowitzwhat does malware smell like?Mar 14 23:02
schestowitzdoes it taste like it smells?Mar 14 23:02
DaemonFCEXE filesMar 14 23:02
DaemonFC:)Mar 14 23:02
Formic_I think malware smells like a shopping mallMar 14 23:02
msb__schestowitz: Sorry, I don't understand what you mean regarding "SPYWARE.EXE".Mar 14 23:02
schestowitzBRITNEY_NUDE.jPG                                                .exeMar 14 23:02
DaemonFCSPYWARE.COMMar 14 23:02
DaemonFC:)Mar 14 23:02
Formic_Blink182 - Fuck a dog.mp3.exeMar 14 23:03
schestowitzmsb__: trick used to put malicious attacyhments for WindopesMar 14 23:03
DaemonFCschestowitz.jpg.vbsMar 14 23:03
msb__Right.Mar 14 23:03
schestowitzdoes OOo run it?Mar 14 23:03
ThistleWebto infect the PCs of gullible conspiracy theoristsMar 14 23:03
DaemonFCprobablyMar 14 23:03
msb__Well, I'm not gullible enough to run Windows.  Ever.Mar 14 23:04
Formic_oddly enough most conspiracy theories use windows -_-Mar 14 23:04
Formic_theoristsMar 14 23:04
schestowitzHOW_TO_MAKE_A_BOMB.DOC     OMG_PONIES>jJPGMar 14 23:04
ThistleWebwatch their every bit across the network, get the passwords, emails, contacts etcMar 14 23:04
ThistleWeball to round folks up in the middle of the night old fashioned secret police styleeMar 14 23:04
schestowitzFormic_: most serial killers toMar 14 23:04
schestowitz*tooMar 14 23:04
*scientes has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)Mar 14 23:04
schestowitzand politiciansMar 14 23:04
schestowitzand communistsMar 14 23:04
schestowitzand MASONS ! OMG MASONS!!Mar 14 23:04
Formic_LOLMar 14 23:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Guest Post: Understanding The New Price Of Oil | ZeroHedge http://goo.gl/Pkm1R #peakoilMar 14 23:05
ThistleWebI do find it really funny when you see conspiracy theory folks at their PCs.....and it's windowsMar 14 23:05
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Guest Post: Understanding The New Price Of Oil | ZeroHedge .::. Size~: 181.62 KBMar 14 23:05
msb__MS is the IT arm of the NWO.Mar 14 23:05
schestowitzgreenpeace activists drinving to greenpeace HQMar 14 23:05
Formic_there should be a omgbuntu site for the masonsMar 14 23:05
Formic_omgmasonsMar 14 23:05
msb__Keeping people under control on the Net and Web.Mar 14 23:05
ThistleWeb"if you were onto something, you'd be silenced by now......the fact that you're not means you've been hooked on a version of fictional events"Mar 14 23:06
schestowitzmsb__: \no, that's GoogleMar 14 23:06
schestowitzThe datacentreMar 14 23:06
schestowitzthoughtpoiliceMar 14 23:06
schestowitz!google i want to buiild a bombMar 14 23:06
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Want Some Help Building a Bomb | http://www.boomershoot.org/general/bombhelp.htmMar 14 23:06
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - How to Build an H-Bomb | http://twin-peaks-video.com/darkstar/so_you/want%2520to%2520build%2520an%2520h-bomb.htmMar 14 23:06
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - How to Make an Atomic Bomb - Softpedia | http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-To-Make-An-Atomic-Bomb-53392.shtmlMar 14 23:06
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - The UnMuseum - How to Build an Atomic Bomb | http://www.unmuseum.org/buildabomb.htmMar 14 23:06
schestowitzOMB, the techrights server is a terroristMar 14 23:06
msb__Google too.Mar 14 23:06
schestowitzquick,  go raid the datacentreMar 14 23:06
Formic_isnt it in texas?Mar 14 23:06
schestowitznopeMar 14 23:06
schestowitzCAMar 14 23:06
DaemonFCschestowitz: HOW TO MAKE A BOMB.DOCXMar 14 23:06
DaemonFCforce all the terrorists to buy the new MS OfficeMar 14 23:07
msb__I think I live near Google.Mar 14 23:07
schestowitzDaemonFC: terrorists willbe eqsily foinMar 14 23:07
schestowitzthey'll be the people queuing overnight at Best Buy when Bill and Steve present the latest TurdMar 14 23:07
Formic_http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread36584/pg1Mar 14 23:07
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Echelon Key Words, page 1 .::. Size~: 59.83 KBMar 14 23:07
Formic_!google USAFAMar 14 23:08
msb__Yup, they are in Mountain View, California, a few miles from me.Mar 14 23:08
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - United States Air Force Academy - Home | http://www.usafa.af.mil/Mar 14 23:08
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Air Force Academy | http://www.academyadmissions.com/Mar 14 23:08
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - United States Air Force Academy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Air_Force_AcademyMar 14 23:08
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Air Force Academy Official Athletic Site | http://www.goairforcefalcons.com/Mar 14 23:08
DaemonFCPraise Allah, My Windows 8 tablet has How To Make a Bomb.appxMar 14 23:08
schestowitzLOLMar 14 23:08
DaemonFCALALALALALALALAAAAH!!!!Mar 14 23:08
schestowitzDaemonFC: it was my ideaMar 14 23:08
MinceRyou forgot crAppleMar 14 23:08
msb__I'm near them too.Mar 14 23:08
schestowitznew http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j95HpNz_Blw&feature=relmfuMar 14 23:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: "Why we must destroy human rights", A moderate muslim speaks outs       - YouTube .::. Size~: 142.41 KBMar 14 23:09
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRJrC500KPU&feature=digest_monMar 14 23:09
msb__I'm in the belly of the Beast!!!Mar 14 23:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Thunderf00t Unmasked       - YouTube .::. Size~: 130.82 KBMar 14 23:09
Formic_!google 747 smuggle nkvd security 50bmgMar 14 23:09
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Subversive Keywords | http://www.fiveanddime.net/subversive.htmlMar 14 23:09
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Hacktivism - Jam Echelon Keywords | http://attrition.org/misc/keywords2.htmlMar 14 23:09
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - echelon_1 | http://s120937152.websitehome.co.uk/nz/echelon_1.htmlMar 14 23:09
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - The List Of Carnivore And Eschelon Keywords | http://www.rense.com/general66/scgh.htmMar 14 23:09
schestowitzmsb__: the beast is yet to comeMar 14 23:09
msb__I think Obomber is the Antichrist.Mar 14 23:10
schestowitzdid christ exist?Mar 14 23:10
Formic_damnMar 14 23:10
Formic_Obomber must beMar 14 23:10
schestowitzI mean, except in the books of so-called apostles?Mar 14 23:10
msb__I think he did.Mar 14 23:10
Formic_msb__ is JesusMar 14 23:10
schestowitzyeahMar 14 23:10
schestowitzI bet msb__ has a beardMar 14 23:10
msb__You win.Mar 14 23:10
Formic_hes certainly oldMar 14 23:10
ThistleWeba bomb dock seems like a terrorist conspiracy......get a dock in every office, then we can have our peeps sneak in to plant a bomb into it......we'll need to patent and licence the tech obviously, to fund the whole dealMar 14 23:10
schestowitzmsb__ is JCMar 14 23:10
DaemonFCschestowitz: Beard alone might not make him a terroristMar 14 23:10
DaemonFCwe should weait and see if he pays for his coffee with cashMar 14 23:11
DaemonFC*waitMar 14 23:11
msb__Thank goodness I don't drink coffee!Mar 14 23:11
schestowitzbeard+neckbeard=terroristMar 14 23:11
ThistleWeban alqueda video on the shopping channels offering bulk discountsMar 14 23:11
DaemonFCwell, he might still buy chewing gum with cashMar 14 23:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks GI Files: Ergenekon Kavgasi - Taraf (Turkey) | http://t.co/4Eu0bZKf #gifilesMar 14 23:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Haber: ERGENEKON KAVGASI - Taraf Gazetesi .::. Size~: 57.06 KBMar 14 23:11
DaemonFCor demand privacyMar 14 23:11
msb__Or I'd be in Frammistan being tortured for the CIA right now.Mar 14 23:12
schestowitzoh please !!Mar 14 23:12
DaemonFCor be seen shopping in a store the next town overMar 14 23:12
schestowitzsometimes I'd go to the ATM before buying at a shop with cashbackMar 14 23:12
msb__Al-Qaeda would hate our democracy, if we had any.Mar 14 23:12
DaemonFCHe might ask how to unlock his new iphoneMar 14 23:12
DaemonFCclearly a sign of a terroristMar 14 23:12
schestowitzcashback is a good invention for spying authoritiesMar 14 23:12
schestowitzanother is discount cardsMar 14 23:13
schestowitzthey basically mean, you get a discount for giving up anonymityMar 14 23:13
schestowitzI need to dent thisMar 14 23:13
msb__I just use my credit card.  Nobody can trace me through that.Mar 14 23:14
schestowitzhow so?Mar 14 23:14
DaemonFCschestowitz: All you have to do to foil the "discount card" spying is give them a fake name and addressMar 14 23:14
schestowitzit has a name on itMar 14 23:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] In the UK, Nectar card basically means, you get 1% a discount for giving up anonymity/privacy. Same with mobile phones (vs booths).Mar 14 23:15
schestowitzDaemonFC: if they don't check, maybeMar 14 23:15
schestowitzyou need to give them addressMar 14 23:15
DaemonFCI've never seen a supermarket checkMar 14 23:15
schestowitzto ship it to youMar 14 23:15
DaemonFCnah, they just hand it to you right thereMar 14 23:15
schestowitzI also spoke to a cop about whether giving fake address when buying a phone would be a crime/felonyMar 14 23:15
DaemonFCafter you give them the completed formMar 14 23:16
XFaCEDammit, I know a REAL conspiracy.Mar 14 23:16
msb__schestowitz: Just kidding about the credit card not being traceable.Mar 14 23:16
ThistleWebcontract it would be, but a prepay one is just another deviceMar 14 23:17
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XFaCEWho, exactly, is the mysterious who says "subdivisions!" in the Rush song Subdivisions?Mar 14 23:18
XFaCEThe music video shows Alex, but that could easily be falsified.Mar 14 23:19
DaemonFCstates are passing laws making you show ID to buy a prepaid phone nowMar 14 23:19
XFaCEThis is why we can't have nice things.Mar 14 23:19
msb__911 is the false pretext for all this "security"/surveillance stuff.  That's another reason why it's important.  The same governments who say they want to protect us from terrorists, actually WERE the terrorists.Mar 14 23:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks GI Files: Açılımdan kapatırım - Taraf (Turkey) | http://t.co/8gWUHm2X #gifilesMar 14 23:21
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DaemonFCUnity 5.6 is out apparentlyMar 14 23:22
msb__It's like the old gangster protection racket.  They smash up some stores, and then demand money from the owners to protect them.Mar 14 23:22
msb__BTW, that movie about us all being in a computer simulation is    The Thirteenth Floor (1999), not Ghost in the Shell, which is a great anime' about computer-enhanced people.Mar 14 23:25
schestowitzThistleWeb: PAYGMar 14 23:26
Diablo-D3did someone say ghost in the shell?Mar 14 23:26
*Diablo-D3 hits msb for getting it wrongMar 14 23:26
schestowitzprepaid to begin withMar 14 23:26
schestowitzmaybe depends on the storeMar 14 23:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] 65 !OpenSource Replacements for !Security Software - Datamation http://goo.gl/qTw38Mar 14 23:26
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Diablo-D3gits is an artistic movie based on the manga of the same name about existentialism and what makes people truly humanMar 14 23:26
ThistleWebcash and a straigh face helpsMar 14 23:27
ThistleWebstraightMar 14 23:27
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schestowitznoMar 14 23:29
schestowitzeven if you pay with cash they want lots of detailsMar 14 23:29
schestowitzunless you give fake onesMar 14 23:29
schestowitzwhich I reckon might lead to risk of suspicion of fraudMar 14 23:30
schestowitzbut many would probably allow no cards or ID to be presented under any eventMar 14 23:30
msb__Diablo-D3: What did I get wrong?Mar 14 23:30
ThistleWeb"sorry, i don't have any cards on me, it's an impulse buy"Mar 14 23:31
schestowitzThistleWeb: for each such surveillance device they have record of calls, SMS, etc.Mar 14 23:31
schestowitzaMar 14 23:31
ThistleWeb"if you cant sell me it without that, fine, I'll buy elsewhere!Mar 14 23:31
schestowitza treasure troveMar 14 23:31
schestowitzbetter than having to guess IP addressesMar 14 23:31
schestowitzThistleWeb: if such a place existsMar 14 23:31
ThistleWebit's also a great excuse to support the little independantsMar 14 23:31
ThistleWebrather than big chainsMar 14 23:31
schestowitzlike who?Mar 14 23:32
schestowitzany left?Mar 14 23:32
schestowitzthey band with networksMar 14 23:32
ThistleWebthere's two here, local storesMar 14 23:32
schestowitzand networks have to be big, and come with demandsMar 14 23:32
ThistleWebsell unlocked phones, 2nd hand phones etcMar 14 23:32
ThistleWebyer still on a major network for the calls etcMar 14 23:32
schestowitzHmmm... I think I'll experiment tomorrow in a store or twoMar 14 23:32
ThistleWebbut it's cash for the phone, and cash for a sim cardMar 14 23:32
ThistleWebpay cash to top it upMar 14 23:33
schestowitzjust to see with better certainty where policy stands on aonymous calling devicesMar 14 23:33
ThistleWebit still logs stuff you do, but it's not connected to you as a person, your home etcMar 14 23:33
schestowitzthey could do the data minding for thatMar 14 23:33
schestowitzbut it's hard to uphold in courtMar 14 23:33
ThistleWebthe one thing they will have is the tirangulation, of knowing which tower gives your signal, how far etc so that could pinpoint youMar 14 23:34
schestowitzlike trying to win a copyright case based on one's IP address, which is dynamically allocatedMar 14 23:34
schestowitzThistleWeb: in the US:Mar 14 23:34
ThistleWebwith an unlocked phone, when one sim is used for a while, dump it, and buy a fresh one on a different networkMar 14 23:34
schestowitzSprint admitted letting snoopsMar 14 23:34
schestowitzbeMar 14 23:34
schestowitzSprint is not even the big playerMar 14 23:34
schestowitzand others do it too, just haven't admitted this yetMar 14 23:34
schestowitzSprinter alone, last year (IIRC) gave millions of snoopsMar 14 23:35
schestowitzto agents with an ID cardMar 14 23:35
ThistleWebI knowMar 14 23:35
schestowitzthey have an online access point to query location of peopleMar 14 23:35
schestowitzno warrants neededMar 14 23:35
ThistleWebnothing is perfect, but a cash ecconomy  at least doesn't play into their handsMar 14 23:35
schestowitz"where was ThistleWeb last night at 8pm?" click click... ahaMar 14 23:35
msb__I think the best solution is for everyone to learn about what the governments and ultra-wealthy are really doing, and have done in the past.Mar 14 23:36
schestowitz"what did ThistleWeb write to this bird last night and last year?"Mar 14 23:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeask GI Files: İsrail-Türkiye çatışması, PKK’nın lehine - Taraf (Turkey) | http://t.co/1z8ceLKP #gifilesMar 14 23:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] London Underground Getting Wi-Fi for the Olympics - PC Magazine http://ping.fm/ACGRHMar 14 23:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @rubenslabbinck @Tanfoglio_ nen bak ait doet ;)Mar 14 23:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @maleadt @rubenslabbinck @Tanfoglio_ is dat altijd zo? Want dan moeten we wel nog eens klapke doen :pMar 14 23:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @BartHanssens merci!Mar 14 23:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @rubenslabbinck @Tanfoglio_ daar hou ik je aan ;-)Mar 14 23:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @rubenslabbinck: @Tanfoglio_ Ik ga een app maken die de snelst bereikbare KFC weergeeft. De #datatan http://ur1. ...Mar 14 23:36
msb__Seeking privacy is a lost cause -- the govt has superior technology.Mar 14 23:36
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schestowitzmsb__: and rulesMar 14 23:37
schestowitztechnology without rules is not enoughMar 14 23:37
schestowitzand they need to kill multi-purpose computingMar 14 23:37
schestowitzto control apps, spectrum, encryptionMar 14 23:37
msb__Right.Mar 14 23:37
schestowitzthat's why we need FOSSMar 14 23:37
msb__That's why the war against Linux, and why they're pushing smartphones and tablets.Mar 14 23:37
schestowitzthere's not  problem with thoseMar 14 23:38
schestowitzbut those which are made are built to be limitedMar 14 23:38
schestowitzthey say it's slick and simpleMar 14 23:38
schestowitz"easy to use"Mar 14 23:38
schestowitzmeaning dumbed down and limitedMar 14 23:38
msb__To do real research and to originate content requires a good keyboard and a large enough screen.Mar 14 23:38
schestowitz"this is what people WANT!"Mar 14 23:38
DaemonFCevery time I ask why I can't do something with my GPU, it almost always comes back to Microsoft and HollywoodMar 14 23:39
msb__Smartphones and tablets are only good for consumers of content.Mar 14 23:39
schestowitzwork die, consume die :-)Mar 14 23:39
schestowitzoopsMar 14 23:39
schestowitzwork buy consume dieMar 14 23:39
schestowitzbyeMar 14 23:39
Formic_you can get tablets that arent locked downMar 14 23:39
Formic_but you cant get tablets someone old can see clearlyMar 14 23:39
schestowitzwith plasmaMar 14 23:39
msb__Yes, but the screens are too small.Mar 14 23:40
schestowitzfrom KDE's Tom Green lookalike and chumsMar 14 23:40
Formic_too small for you msb__Mar 14 23:40
Formic_I have 20/20. Easy enough to readMar 14 23:40
Formic_if the text is the same size or larger than the text in a book, then its fineMar 14 23:41
msb__But for writing documents, or comparing multiple documents, or having several windows open on the screen for any purpose, a 10 inch screen is too small.Mar 14 23:41
Formic_for many of those tasksMar 14 23:41
Formic_1 screen isnt enoughMar 14 23:41
msb__You need to see a large enough _amount_ of text.Mar 14 23:42
Formic_I can see perfectly fine on my 7 inch netbookMar 14 23:42
Formic_I write stuff in libreoffice and no issuesMar 14 23:42
msb__I have a 27 inch monitor.  It's large enough.Mar 14 23:42
Formic_my computer has a 23 inch LED HD monitor, and a 19inch widescreenMar 14 23:42
msb__Those are large enough too.Mar 14 23:43
Formic_I also have no issues writing a lot using my netbookMar 14 23:43
Formic_I got it so I could write while i'm on the busMar 14 23:43
Formic_you cant exactly haul your 27 inch monitor, computer, keyboard and mouse and find a place to plug it in - on the busMar 14 23:43
msb__True.Mar 14 23:44
Formic_you could bring a large screened laptopMar 14 23:44
msb__A laptop with a 16 inch screen is good.Mar 14 23:44
Formic_I prefer long battery life so I use a small netbookMar 14 23:44
Formic_the lack of a keyboard on smartphones and tablets does mean you'll be just consuming mostlyMar 14 23:45
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Formic_but you could be consuming CC licened stuffMar 14 23:45
msb__And that's what the rulers want.Mar 14 23:45
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Formic_what happens with augmented reality then?Mar 14 23:46
Formic_the controllers won't like the virtual keyboards you'll getMar 14 23:46
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msb__But a virtual keyboard has no tactile feel.  Hard to use.Mar 14 23:47
Formic_lol why is "unix" in the echelon keywords list....Mar 14 23:47
Formic_hard to use but the controllers will still hate itMar 14 23:47
Formic_there are people who will get used to it and adaptMar 14 23:47
msb__"freedom" probably is too.Mar 14 23:47
Formic_you can also get voice to text for ios/androidMar 14 23:48
ThistleWebit's a typo, they meant eunichs - anyone who slags off the upper classes reproductive abilities must be a threatMar 14 23:48
Formic_the controllers also hate crypto-anarchyMar 14 23:49
Formic_http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crypto-anarchismMar 14 23:49
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msb__Cannabis is the root password to the human mind.Mar 14 23:50
Formic_lolMar 14 23:50
Formic_drugs alter the mindMar 14 23:51
Formic_I also usually hear that about LSDMar 14 23:51
Formic_or <insert drug the person who is talking likes the most>Mar 14 23:51
msb__Social propaganda and coercion also alter the mind.Mar 14 23:51
ThistleWebthat's the selling point of drugs; if they didn't I'd expect ya'd hear of lots of folks demanding their money back from dealersMar 14 23:51
Formic_[19:50] <msb__> Cannabis is the root password to the human mind.Mar 14 23:52
msb__in the 1960s people organized, protested, and stopped the Vietnam War.Mar 14 23:52
ThistleWebwhy would you pay for something that doesn't work as advertised? oh wait......hollywood have a patent on thatMar 14 23:52
msb__We're in a worse situation now, but without psychedelics, most  people can't escape from the "Matrix".Mar 14 23:53
ThistleWebactually fits microsoft betterMar 14 23:53
msb__The four movies I know of that show the actual situation we're in:  The Golden Compass; The Matrix (part one); They Live; Sonic the Hedgehog SATAM series.Mar 14 23:57
schestowitzLOLMar 14 23:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] !linuxlibre 3.2.1[10]-libre-lemote and 3.0.24-libre-lemote .deb binaries for !gnewsense !yeeloong are now availableMar 14 23:58
schestowitzSonicMar 14 23:58
MinceRSATAN series!Mar 14 23:58
msb__schestowitz: Yes!  That one series is very well done.Mar 14 23:59
schestowitzSonic boom, Sonic boom, Sonic boom, Ohhhhh Yooken!Mar 14 23:59
msb__That's SATAM -- Saturday AM -- morning.Mar 14 23:59
schestowitzI don't watch TVMar 14 23:59
DaemonFCwell, I don't know, the fundies seem to see SATAN in SATAM cartoons all the timeMar 14 23:59
schestowitznot anymoeMar 14 23:59
schestowitzexcept at the gym, the music channelsMar 14 23:59

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