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| DaemonFC | hmmm | Mar 19 00:00 |
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| DaemonFC | using the MTPFS fuse module seems to work | Mar 19 00:00 |
| DaemonFC | yay | Mar 19 00:00 |
| schestowitz | Meh | Mar 19 00:04 |
| schestowitz | BTW | Mar 19 00:04 |
| schestowitz | I used Android today for a while | Mar 19 00:04 |
| schestowitz | compared it to some other mobile OSes | Mar 19 00:04 |
| schestowitz | They're improving so fas, it's reassuring | Mar 19 00:04 |
| schestowitz | all the functionality almost is equal to what's on the desktop, screen resolution too | Mar 19 00:04 |
| schestowitz | but with touchscreens | Mar 19 00:04 |
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| schestowitz | [23:52] <TechrightsBot-tr> Title: BBC News - Barclays investigated by FSA for swap mis-selling claim .::. Size~: 69.31 KB | Mar 19 00:11 |
| schestowitz | When will BBC be investigated? | Mar 19 00:11 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: sometimes I read "tablet" as "toilet" | Mar 19 00:12 |
| schestowitz | both are crapl, too | Mar 19 00:12 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2012/03/i-didnt-tell-facebook-im-engaged-so-why-is-it-asking-about-my-fianc/254479/ | Mar 19 00:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: I Didn't Tell Facebook I'm Engaged, So Why Is It Asking About My Fiancé? - Sara Marie Watson - Technology - The Atlantic .::. Size~: 124.26 KB | Mar 19 00:14 |
| schestowitz | "It's not the first time I've gotten an engagement ring advertisement. But what's this? Facebook is directly asking me to comment on the nature of my relationship to Nick Smith? That's something new. And weird. " | Mar 19 00:14 |
| schestowitz | This relates to what you told me | Mar 19 00:14 |
| schestowitz | Oh, BTW, today I became a Godfather... an offer I could not refuse | Mar 19 00:14 |
| DaemonFC | I hate MTP | Mar 19 00:14 |
| schestowitz | in Linux? | Mar 19 00:15 |
| DaemonFC | my tablet makes me connect over MTP to access its internal storage | Mar 19 00:15 |
| DaemonFC | apparently | Mar 19 00:15 |
| schestowitz | Today at the churvch they handed out a programmr | Mar 19 00:16 |
| schestowitz | And they solicited sigs against same-sex marriage | Mar 19 00:16 |
| schestowitz | the funny thing is, someone there was a lesbian misread it | Mar 19 00:17 |
| schestowitz | they shrewdly wrote it in a PC way | Mar 19 00:17 |
| schestowitz | So she almost wanted to sign i | Mar 19 00:17 |
| schestowitz | Not realising what the church was up to | Mar 19 00:17 |
| schestowitz | hmmm http://www.ableconf.com/press_releases/2012Mar16.html | Mar 19 00:18 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: ABLEconf 2012 cancelled | ABLEconf .::. Size~: 17.72 KB | Mar 19 00:18 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Greg Palast | The Globalizer Who Came In From the Cold http://goo.gl/SIJtM #nwo #imf | Mar 19 00:19 | |
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| schestowitz | sebsebseb: we'll try to resume techbytes some time after Tuesday | Mar 19 00:19 |
| schestowitz | depending on shift patterns at work | Mar 19 00:19 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Wine 1.5.0 released http://ur1.ca/8q6it #wine #unix #linux | Mar 19 00:22 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Linpus Lite Desktop 1.7 http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2012/03/17/linpus-lite-desktop-1-7-screen-shot-preview/ #linpus #gnu #linux | Mar 19 00:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] My Dream Tablet Running GNU/Linux: The #LINTAB http://ur1.ca/8q6lg #gnu #linux | Mar 19 00:34 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] US war #history in 2 minutes: arrest US War Criminals to stop war on #Iran | Examiner.com http://goo.gl/YFCXk #usa #mic | Mar 19 00:35 | |
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| sebsebseb | schestowitz: oh ok :) | Mar 19 00:48 |
| DaemonFC | still trying to work around MTP so I can update my tablet | Mar 19 00:50 |
| DaemonFC | I ended up popping out the micro SD card | Mar 19 00:51 |
| DaemonFC | plugging it into my card reader | Mar 19 00:52 |
| DaemonFC | copying the firmware to that | Mar 19 00:52 |
| DaemonFC | plugging the card back into the tablet | Mar 19 00:52 |
| DaemonFC | cut and paste the firmware FROM the card TO the internal storage | Mar 19 00:52 |
| DaemonFC | then tapped on the firmware file | Mar 19 00:52 |
| DaemonFC | and now it's updating | Mar 19 00:52 |
| DaemonFC | it's rebooting | Mar 19 00:53 |
| DaemonFC | it says it is optimizing my applications for Android 4 | Mar 19 00:54 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fsmag/@fsmag] Congratulations to Felipe Comparini from Chile, for winning a fantastic Excito B3! http://fsmsh.com/3736 | Mar 19 00:54 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] blogged: Byron Sonne: Still Not Free http://www.ur1.ca/8q6w3 !FreeByron Trial resumes tomorrow: Monday March 19 - 361 University | Mar 19 01:54 | |
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| DaemonFC` | Debian ICeweasel is following the Firefox ESR branch | Mar 19 01:56 |
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| sebsebseb | DaemonFC`: makes sense | Mar 19 01:58 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC`: makes things much easier | Mar 19 01:58 |
| DaemonFC` | makes maintaining it easier | Mar 19 02:00 |
| DaemonFC` | they can just pull updates from the upstream instead of trying to backport them | Mar 19 02:00 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC`: Mageia is also going with the ESR | Mar 19 02:01 |
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| DaemonFC | bah | Mar 19 02:01 |
| sebsebseb | why bah? | Mar 19 02:01 |
| DaemonFC | my nick was a backup | Mar 19 02:04 |
| DaemonFC | must be because I was logged in on Andchat for a while | Mar 19 02:04 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: ok you get my Mageia comment or not then? | Mar 19 02:04 |
| DaemonFC | yeah | Mar 19 02:05 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: only thing is Windows will be more up to date | Mar 19 02:05 |
| sebsebseb | than the distro's that have the ESR by default | Mar 19 02:05 |
| sebsebseb | for Firefiox, oh well | Mar 19 02:05 |
| DaemonFC | the version treadmill is mostly a marketing stunt | Mar 19 02:05 |
| sebsebseb | at least with Windows also there is a proper working update thing from MOzilla | Mar 19 02:05 |
| DaemonFC | for most purposes, Firefox 3.6 users are still doing alright | Mar 19 02:06 |
| sebsebseb | where as with Linux it's up to the distros, and well that can be a right uh at itmes, to keep it up to date enough | Mar 19 02:06 |
| sebsebseb | the versions thing is mainly a, becasue they can yeah | Mar 19 02:06 |
| sebsebseb | also they have money to release a new version every six weeks now | Mar 19 02:06 |
| DaemonFC | it's a question of features vs stability | Mar 19 02:06 |
| DaemonFC | it always is | Mar 19 02:06 |
| sebsebseb | also FIrefox 3.6 is going to run out of support next month I belive, but it's rather useable on today's web still really in general | Mar 19 02:06 |
| DaemonFC | just saying there's newer releases out there is like saying Ubuntu has newer software than RHEL | Mar 19 02:07 |
| DaemonFC | sure, if you want regressions, Ubuntu has lots of new software | Mar 19 02:07 |
| sebsebseb | Newer Is Not Always better! | Mar 19 02:07 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: Mandriva 2010.2 on the other computer still, my brothers use that, that's Gnome 2.32.1 in there and this really old nice Gnome SHell preview I like, but I got them using KDE 4.4 in there | Mar 19 02:08 |
| sebsebseb | KDE 4.4i is fine for their usage | Mar 19 02:08 |
| DaemonFC | I don't know how Red Hat is going to sell customers on GNOME 3.x | Mar 19 02:08 |
| sebsebseb | since about all they are going to be doing is opening up Firefox | Mar 19 02:08 |
| DaemonFC | the kind of customers they have tend to freak out about fairly minor UI changes | Mar 19 02:08 |
| sebsebseb | nearly any interface is good enough for the very basic computer user | Mar 19 02:08 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: maybe Redhat will end up going with Mate for example in the future | Mar 19 02:09 |
| sebsebseb | or even Cinnamon? | Mar 19 02:09 |
| DaemonFC | UI changes mean more "training" is necessary | Mar 19 02:09 |
| sebsebseb | yep that's right going with those, even though Fedora is Gnome Shell | Mar 19 02:09 |
| sebsebseb | in fact that would be quite interseting if that | Mar 19 02:09 |
| DaemonFC | since the user has to be trained on how to use the new software | Mar 19 02:09 |
| DaemonFC | so business types really hate GUI changes | Mar 19 02:09 |
| sebsebseb | yeah well Mate | Mar 19 02:09 |
| sebsebseb | and Cinnamon for example | Mar 19 02:09 |
| DaemonFC | even if the new GUI works better | Mar 19 02:09 |
| sebsebseb | or do a Fuduntu and keep the real Gnome 2 in there | Mar 19 02:09 |
| sebsebseb | ,but keep other stuff up to date | Mar 19 02:09 |
| DaemonFC | I used Unity 5.6 for a little while on my other computer yesterday | Mar 19 02:10 |
| DaemonFC | I can kind of see what they're trying to do with it | Mar 19 02:10 |
| sebsebseb | 5.6 ? | Mar 19 02:10 |
| sebsebseb | the 11.10 version or 12.04 ? | Mar 19 02:10 |
| DaemonFC | a few things that I didn't think were going to work out, I turned out to be wrong about | Mar 19 02:10 |
| DaemonFC | 12.04 | Mar 19 02:10 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: I tried out the 11.10 versions a bit a few weeks or so ago | Mar 19 02:11 |
| sebsebseb | ,but then later messed up that Ubuntu install | Mar 19 02:11 |
| sebsebseb | when doing stuff with dm's and trying to get it change to Gdm and uh | Mar 19 02:11 |
| sebsebseb | so I'll be re installing that, but not yet, since I want to try out Ubuntu Studio | Mar 19 02:11 |
| sebsebseb | since it went XFCE, and yeah | Mar 19 02:11 |
| sebsebseb | and I'll do a try of a Ubuntu 12.04 development version as well | Mar 19 02:11 |
| DaemonFC | you could have spared yourself the entire alpha/beta cycle that went on between 11.04 and 11.10 by staying on 10.04 LTS I guess | Mar 19 02:11 |
| sebsebseb | and I got Mint 12 to try out yet as well on here | Mar 19 02:11 |
| sebsebseb | and then a Mageia Beta 2 to put on really | Mar 19 02:12 |
| DaemonFC | it's cruel to drag your users through a minefield of half-implemented crap that's riddled with bugs | Mar 19 02:12 |
| DaemonFC | and to pretend like it's anything but beta software | Mar 19 02:12 |
| sebsebseb | there seems to be some issue with Grub booting up Ubuntu the Mageia one or wahtever, so going to try out for myself and try and documentate any wrokaround baically | Mar 19 02:12 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: well that's the idea with Ubuntu | Mar 19 02:13 |
| sebsebseb | want something more stable? | Mar 19 02:13 |
| sebsebseb | stay using the LTS | Mar 19 02:13 |
| sebsebseb | want to try out new stuff, use the other versions | Mar 19 02:13 |
| DaemonFC | yeah | Mar 19 02:13 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: Mageia is also going to do a Long Term Support release, and I think Ubuntu Style as well | Mar 19 02:14 |
| sebsebseb | I think that will probably be Mageia 3 | Mar 19 02:14 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: also it's ok to live in the past, and got a great article about that :) http://ebb.org/bkuhn/blog/2011/08/05/living-in-the-past.html | Mar 19 02:15 |
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| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: Mint 9 could have been used instead of 10.04 for the kind of thing you were just saying by the way :) | Mar 19 02:16 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, they have LTS versions of their own | Mar 19 02:16 |
| DaemonFC | based on Ubuntu LTS | Mar 19 02:16 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: yep exactly | Mar 19 02:16 |
| DaemonFC | Mint 13 will probably be an LTS and default to Cinnamon | Mar 19 02:17 |
| sebsebseb | and that's what my older brother's lap top from like 2005 | Mar 19 02:17 |
| sebsebseb | which is in a bit of a bad condiition now, but works | Mar 19 02:17 |
| sebsebseb | that's what it's got on there MInt 9 | Mar 19 02:17 |
| sebsebseb | and yep exactly Mint 13 will probably be LTS and using Cinmamon | Mar 19 02:17 |
| sebsebseb | also Cinnamon is going to be in the Debian version | Mar 19 02:18 |
| sebsebseb | and Mate | Mar 19 02:18 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: you should read this if you haven't already :) http://dehype.org/2012/ubuntu-design/ | Mar 19 02:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Ubuntu: you’re doing it wrong | Dehype .::. Size~: 201.82 KB | Mar 19 02:19 |
| DaemonFC | I remember MEPIS tried basing off Ubuntu 6.06 LTS | Mar 19 02:19 |
| sebsebseb | oh | Mar 19 02:19 |
| DaemonFC | then he freaked out because they weren't doing all his work for him | Mar 19 02:19 |
| sebsebseb | and you mean SimpleyMepis? | Mar 19 02:19 |
| DaemonFC | he totally misunderstood what an LTS was | Mar 19 02:20 |
| DaemonFC | but that didn't stop him from blaming them loudly and storming back off to Debian | Mar 19 02:20 |
| DaemonFC | yeah | Mar 19 02:20 |
| DaemonFC | he took LTS to mean essentially what he does | Mar 19 02:20 |
| DaemonFC | mixing and matching software onto a stable base | Mar 19 02:20 |
| sebsebseb | ok | Mar 19 02:21 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: or instead of LTS can have a distro such as PC LInux OS, which is rolling release, and has later this and that, when it's stable enough | Mar 19 02:21 |
| DaemonFC | I'm always skeptical of rolling releases | Mar 19 02:23 |
| DaemonFC | sometimes upstreams have a different idea of what's stable than I do | Mar 19 02:23 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: sure, but PC Linux OS has been holding off on Gnome 3 for ages for example | Mar 19 02:24 |
| DaemonFC | Debian's development cycle is such that a package can't get into testing if it has more open release-critical bugs than the one that's already there | Mar 19 02:24 |
| DaemonFC | so you almost never walk into a disaster with Testing | Mar 19 02:24 |
| DaemonFC | and never with Stable | Mar 19 02:24 |
| sebsebseb | oh ok | Mar 19 02:24 |
| DaemonFC | just tossing in whatever the latest upstream package is without any real testing is what Sid is | Mar 19 02:24 |
| sebsebseb | Debian experimental | Mar 19 02:25 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, that's right, experimental is more or less "incoming" | Mar 19 02:25 |
| DaemonFC | if it's going to do anything really bad the hope is that they'll catch it there | Mar 19 02:26 |
| sebsebseb | ok | Mar 19 02:26 |
| DaemonFC | it catches obvious problems | Mar 19 02:26 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: also as users we don't have to run the latest versions of distro's | Mar 19 02:26 |
| DaemonFC | build failures | Mar 19 02:26 |
| sebsebseb | we have lots of choice as users :) | Mar 19 02:26 |
| DaemonFC | applications that don't even start up | Mar 19 02:26 |
| sebsebseb | and can run software that is no longer supported upsteram useauly as well | Mar 19 02:27 |
| sebsebseb | for quite a long time to come useually | Mar 19 02:27 |
| sebsebseb | I guess | Mar 19 02:27 |
| DaemonFC | Debian is only now talking about ditching qt3 before Debian 7 goes out | Mar 19 02:27 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: Mageia had something on the dev mailing list about that recently | Mar 19 02:28 |
| DaemonFC | it's been without an upstream since Nokia abandoned it in 2007 | Mar 19 02:28 |
| sebsebseb | a package for gt3 or whatever | Mar 19 02:28 |
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| DaemonFC | really all it's doing now is making the LSB look ridiculous for requiring it | Mar 19 02:28 |
| sebsebseb | oh> | Mar 19 02:28 |
| sebsebseb | ? | Mar 19 02:28 |
| sebsebseb | also gt3 has an upstream | Mar 19 02:28 |
| sebsebseb | the Trinity project | Mar 19 02:28 |
| DaemonFC | Debian discussed that | Mar 19 02:28 |
| DaemonFC | and decided that the qt3 fork from Trinity wasn't compatible with qt3 to the point the LSB requires anyway | Mar 19 02:29 |
| sebsebseb | oh? | Mar 19 02:29 |
| DaemonFC | so it's going to be dropped | Mar 19 02:29 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: well this doesn't really matter much to me | Mar 19 02:29 |
| sebsebseb | I don't use Debian | Mar 19 02:29 |
| DaemonFC | you're not doing your users any favors by keeping something like that around | Mar 19 02:30 |
| DaemonFC | it's either going to get no updates at all and become frozen in time, bugs and all | Mar 19 02:30 |
| DaemonFC | or it's going to do what grub did | Mar 19 02:30 |
| sebsebseb | what Grub did? | Mar 19 02:30 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, grub 0.97 | Mar 19 02:31 |
| sebsebseb | that's still in a lot of distros | Mar 19 02:31 |
| sebsebseb | ,but | Mar 19 02:31 |
| sebsebseb | apparnatly it was patched by distros such as Fedora | Mar 19 02:31 |
| DaemonFC | every distributions ended up with what called itself grub 0.97 | Mar 19 02:31 |
| DaemonFC | but it behaved differently in each distribution | Mar 19 02:31 |
| sebsebseb | not quite sure about that | Mar 19 02:31 |
| DaemonFC | because there are literally hundreds of distribution patches floating around with no upstream to coordinate them | Mar 19 02:31 |
| sebsebseb | oh | Mar 19 02:32 |
| DaemonFC | so you can end up with a combination of devices and boot firmware that would boot OpenSuse, but not Fedora | Mar 19 02:32 |
| DaemonFC | even though they both claimed they had grub 0.97 | Mar 19 02:32 |
| DaemonFC | there was a case like that a while back | Mar 19 02:32 |
| sebsebseb | Mageia's Grub 0.97 | Mar 19 02:32 |
| sebsebseb | seems to have issues booting up Ubuntu | Mar 19 02:32 |
| DaemonFC | Matthew Garrett stumbled into it | Mar 19 02:32 |
| sebsebseb | also going by mailing list, with this one in Mageia 2 Beta 2 | Mar 19 02:32 |
| DaemonFC | turned out OpenSuse was carrying a patch that worked around that | Mar 19 02:32 |
| sebsebseb | one of the founders, coudn't boot up Ubuntu hmm | Mar 19 02:32 |
| DaemonFC | and no other distribution had that patch | Mar 19 02:32 |
| sebsebseb | also apparnatly Ubuntu's Grub 2 | Mar 19 02:33 |
| sebsebseb | is changed some how | Mar 19 02:33 |
| DaemonFC | you can't afford to have situations like that | Mar 19 02:33 |
| sebsebseb | something that isn't upstream | Mar 19 02:33 |
| sebsebseb | and then that can have issues booting up other distro's not sure quite | Mar 19 02:33 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: yep Grub issues are quite serious if it means, somsoene installs a version of Grub | Mar 19 02:33 |
| sebsebseb | and there other distros won't boot up as well | Mar 19 02:33 |
| DaemonFC | it gets better of course | Mar 19 02:33 |
| DaemonFC | if you try to multi-boot | Mar 19 02:34 |
| DaemonFC | and GRUB from Fedora ends up corrupting your XFS file system on OpenSUSE | Mar 19 02:34 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 19 02:34 |
| sebsebseb | oh | Mar 19 02:34 |
| DaemonFC | if it doesn't have a credible upstream, I don't want the software | Mar 19 02:35 |
| DaemonFC | when distributions get into a patchfest over something without an upstream, you get a grub 0.97 | Mar 19 02:35 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: well I still quite like Pino for Identica, but that's not had a upstream for over a year now | Mar 19 02:35 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: also it was decided quite a while ago to drop it from what would become Mageia 2 | Mar 19 02:36 |
| DaemonFC | I'd rather they dropped it than give me something that does things I wasn't expecting and trashes my data | Mar 19 02:36 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: fair enough | Mar 19 02:36 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: anyway going away from computer | Mar 19 02:37 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Can anyone tell me if this @joshwoodward song http://www.ur1.ca/8q7df I uploaded to Tumblr plays? It doesn't on my flash-less !Trisquel | Mar 19 02:37 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Trying #Cinnamon on !fedora 16 | Mar 19 03:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] The 3.3 kernel is out http://ur1.ca/8q7j2 | Mar 19 03:05 | |
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| DaemonFC | Fedora 17 Beta test compose 2 ISOs | Mar 19 04:49 |
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| DaemonFC | http://communities.washingtontimes.com/neighborhood/reawakening-liberty/2012/mar/19/ron-pauls-caucus-strategy-authentic-republicanism/ | Mar 19 05:45 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Ron Paul’s caucus strategy is authentic republicanism | Washington Times Communities .::. Size~: 47.63 KB | Mar 19 05:45 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] !gnu !linuxlibre 3.3-gnu sources are now available; now on to update the web page for the first GNU release of Linux-libre | Mar 19 06:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] How Bush's grandfather helped Hitler's rise to power http://identi.ca/url/37348269 | Mar 19 06:22 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: How Bush's grandfather helped Hitler's rise to power | World news | The Guardian .::. Size~: 117.06 KB | Mar 19 06:22 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #techrights log #boycottnovell log #boycottnovell-social log #techbytes log Enter the IRC channels now | Mar 19 07:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] RT @ #techrights log #boycottnovell log #boycottnovell-social log #techbytes log Enter the IRC channels now | Mar 19 07:29 | |
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| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/91987742 http://identi.ca/notice/91987706 | Mar 19 07:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Marjolein Katsma (marjoleink)'s status on Monday, 19-Mar-12 07:14:29 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz @icetwy ...rarely use Google search (except for images) and have habitually deleted the Google+ profile for each new account :) | Mar 19 07:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Marjolein Katsma (marjoleink)'s status on Monday, 19-Mar-12 07:12:03 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz @icetwy I already have quite a nice collection of accounts - one for each purpose, never stay logged in, ... | Mar 19 07:46 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: family computer blue screen of deeathing again | Mar 19 07:56 |
| sebsebseb | Mandriva 2010.2 on there working great though still :) | Mar 19 07:57 |
| sebsebseb | except for with the printer like always | Mar 19 07:57 |
| cubezzz | there's plenty of printers that work with linux | Mar 19 08:00 |
| sebsebseb | cubezzz: well maybe this one does with another distro or latever veriosn or whatever | Mar 19 08:00 |
| cubezzz | which printer? | Mar 19 08:01 |
| sebsebseb | will be putting Magiea 2 on there later this year :) | Mar 19 08:01 |
| sebsebseb | cubezzz: not sure now | Mar 19 08:01 |
| sebsebseb | what's more intersting is why this computer may be blue screen of deathing again | Mar 19 08:01 |
| sebsebseb | and what happended | Mar 19 08:01 |
| cubezzz | oh yeah that sounds fascinating :-P | Mar 19 08:04 |
| cubezzz | I'm back to old school printing on dot matrix | Mar 19 08:06 |
| cubezzz | cheaper | Mar 19 08:06 |
| sebsebseb | ok | Mar 19 08:06 |
| cubezzz | no more $$$ for inkjet carts | Mar 19 08:07 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] An Open Letter to Ubuntu http://ur1.ca/8qa5x #ubuntu #gnu #linux #modem | Mar 19 08:19 | |
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| schestowitz | morning iophk | Mar 19 08:41 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: whose computer? | Mar 19 08:41 |
| iophk | Hey | Mar 19 08:42 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Linux 3.3 http://ur1.ca/8qac5 #kernel | Mar 19 08:42 | |
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| sebsebseb | schestowitz: family computer | Mar 19 08:53 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: you can fix that with a live CD | Mar 19 08:58 |
| schestowitz | It takes about 20 minutes to install | Mar 19 08:58 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Inside the 5-kilogram robot is a fully functioning computer, running a version of Linux" http://ur1.ca/8qadk | Mar 19 09:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Linux Australia rejects fund request from Gold Coast http://ur1.ca/8qafx #linux | Mar 19 09:02 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The Home PC That Looks Like a Robot - Tech Europe - WSJ .::. Size~: 65.22 KB | Mar 19 09:02 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Are video games just propaganda and training tools for the military? http://gu.com/p/369x2 | Mar 19 09:07 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Are video games just propaganda and training tools for the military? | Technology | The Guardian .::. Size~: 258.98 KB | Mar 19 09:07 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Windows Update - Endless Buffoonery http://ur1.ca/8qaih #microsoft #windows #vista7 | Mar 19 09:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Facebook's 'dark side': study finds link to socially aggressive narcissism http://gu.com/p/3697v | Mar 19 09:10 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Windows Update - Endless Buffoonery | ZDNet UK .::. Size~: 55.63 KB | Mar 19 09:10 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Facebook's 'dark side': study finds link to socially aggressive narcissism | Technology | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 249.45 KB | Mar 19 09:10 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Ice Cream Sandwich for Android rolling out http://ur1.ca/8qaix #android #linux | Mar 19 09:12 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @ddevine Trying to transfer a file and don't have the proper tools? Have !Python? HTTP file server snippet - http://ur1.ca/8qaiz | Mar 19 09:19 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: python-simple-fileserver - An ultra-simple fileserver snippet for Python -- modified from the one by [http://fragments.turtlemeat.com/pythonwebserver.php Jon Berg at turtlemeat.com]. - Google Project Hosting .::. Size~: 19.06 KB | Mar 19 09:19 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Open source culture can rescue ICT from Microsoft's iron grip http://ur1.ca/8qam8 #freesw | Mar 19 09:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Sunside Games to release Crow's Radiance engine as free open-source software http://ur1.ca/8qanq #games | Mar 19 09:34 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Open source culture can rescue ICT from Microsoft's iron grip (Wired UK) .::. Size~: 72.01 KB | Mar 19 09:34 |
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| MinceR | geekings | Mar 19 09:38 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] So we have a hashtag of the Budapest copyright reform workshop - #v4copyshift - still think !copyfraud would have been better ;) | Mar 19 09:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Ides of March brings the Romans to 0 A.D. http://ur1.ca/8qapm #games #linux | Mar 19 09:40 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Ides of March brings the Romans to 0 A.D. - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 43.05 KB | Mar 19 09:40 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[kernellog2/@kernellog2] #Linux #kernel version 3.3 released http://ur1.ca/8qar0 What's new in Linux 3.3 http://ur1.ca/8qar1 | Mar 19 09:45 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Opensource culture can rescue ICT from #Microsoft's iron grip - http://bit.ly/yM1PBX nice piece (v @schestowitz) #monoculture | Mar 19 09:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Pirate Bay Attacks #Censorship With Low Orbit Server #Drones - http://bit.ly/x4ezSg this is getting interesting #tpb | Mar 19 09:50 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] "Nie zabrakło ani emocji, ani pizzy", czyli @edwinbendyk o #sochackedu: bit.ly/ydzSaX /cc @sochack | Mar 19 09:54 | |
| iophk | "Open source culture can rescue ICT …" Yes, UK ICT had a very good track record till the late 1990's. | Mar 19 09:55 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Video, user experience and our mission - http://bit.ly/yMXW17 the lizard wrangler speaks of encumbered video technologies #mozilla | Mar 19 09:55 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Video, user experience and our mission | Mitchell's Blog .::. Size~: 19.23 KB | Mar 19 09:55 |
| schestowitz | "a genuine issue. " https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1434528 | Mar 19 10:00 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: An Open Letter to Ubuntu http://ur1.ca/8qa5x #ubuntu #gnu #linux #modem | Mar 19 10:00 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] New #steganography technique relies on letter shapes - http://bit.ly/xrtJaJ quite clever | Mar 19 10:05 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: New steganography technique relies on letter shapes • The Register .::. Size~: 25 KB | Mar 19 10:05 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Imminent "six strikes" #Copyright Alert System needs antitrust scrutiny - http://bit.ly/FR6LNc interesting points | Mar 19 10:10 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Op-ed: Imminent "six strikes" Copyright Alert System needs antitrust scrutiny .::. Size~: 40.5 KB | Mar 19 10:10 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Private data on British drivers will be stored offshore - http://bit.ly/yoXqVW #IBM decides to join UK gov in the Evil Club #privacy | Mar 19 10:14 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Private data on British drivers will be stored offshore | Technology | The Observer .::. Size~: 216.81 KB | Mar 19 10:14 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Ummelden in München muss binnen 7 Tagen erfolgen. Sonst kann es Ärger geben. Man kann entweder zum Amt (inkl. langer... http://b1t.it/a8a8 | Mar 19 10:19 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Jan Wildeboer - Google+ - Ummelden in München muss binnen 7 Tagen erfolgen. Sonst… .::. Size~: 80.83 KB | Mar 19 10:19 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] χρειαζομαι καφέ, πολυ καφέεεεε... α, καλημέρα κοσμε | Mar 19 10:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] http://is.gd/glMb0m <irony> This is outrageous! How are future innovators going to invent future Pis if they cannot copyright them? </irony> | Mar 19 10:34 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: US judge rules that you can't copyright pi - physics-math - 16 March 2012 - New Scientist .::. Size~: 58.8 KB | Mar 19 10:34 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] The Panel with @panoptykon, @jlipszyc, Amelia Anderstotter, and the wonderful people from teh Budapest Hackerspace - starts now #v4copyshift | Mar 19 10:42 | |
| iophk | http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21328566.400-free-apps-eat-up-your-phone-battery-just-sending-ads.html | Mar 19 10:45 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Free apps eat up your phone battery just sending ads - tech - 18 March 2012 - New Scientist .::. Size~: 51.16 KB | Mar 19 10:45 |
| iophk | "only 10 to 30 per cent of the energy was spent powering the app's core function." | Mar 19 10:45 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] A kiedy jestem w Budapeszcie na #v4copyshift - warsztacie na temat reformy rpawa autorskiego - pisze ofkors o Kościele http://ur1.ca/8qb38 | Mar 19 10:45 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] If you try this in China, you run into trouble. But if you do it in Palma de Mallorca, it's all fine and dandy, I gues... http://b1t.it/a8b2 | Mar 19 10:54 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻@atarkowski #V4copyshift we've just published ENG translation of our #copyright reform proposal - available as PDF: http://t.co/3iKZHLet | Mar 19 10:57 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Urgent: Please Reply to UK #Copyright Consultation - http://bit.ly/AvVh5g only 3 days left - don't lose this chance | Mar 19 10:59 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Urgent: Please Reply to UK Copyright Consultation - Open Enterprise .::. Size~: 78.66 KB | Mar 19 10:59 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] Truly awesome. This might even be more noisy than my current keyboard. ;) http://is.gd/Av8hKN | Mar 19 11:02 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: USB Typewriter Demo #2 (without sound)_(360p).flv - YouTube .::. Size~: 88.82 KB | Mar 19 11:02 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: Want to enlighten the @EU_Commission ? Literally? Here's your chance: http://t.co/tgnvoR http://p.ost.im/p/eXTvnY | Mar 19 11:04 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] "Charlie Brooker | The future of the NHS? Cough up, fleshbags | The Guardian"http://identi.ca/url/68153402 | Mar 19 11:07 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Charlie Brooker | The future of the NHS? Cough up, fleshbags | Comment is free | The Guardian .::. Size~: 258.25 KB | Mar 19 11:07 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Student arrested for filming buildings wins police payout - http://bit.ly/AwABx7 stupid acts of officialdom (v @newsbrooke) | Mar 19 11:12 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Student arrested for filming buildings wins police payout | UK news | The Guardian .::. Size~: 92.59 KB | Mar 19 11:12 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] #Fox, #Sony, Warner Bros and Others Possibly Hacked by a hacker called #UR0B0R0X http://j.mp/zdKonU | Mar 19 11:17 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Auch der Versuch online meinen Stromvertrag abzuschliessen scheiterte kläglich. . Genau das eine Feld (PLZ) welches m... http://b1t.it/a8cU | Mar 19 11:30 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Lazyweb, I am looking for a nice, good old fashioned rotary phone. #notkidding. In white. Should you have one and want... http://b1t.it/a8c8 | Mar 19 11:39 | |
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| iophk | http://blogs.itbusiness.ca/2012/03/why-a-35-raspberry-pi-is-better-than-the-new-ipad/ | Mar 19 11:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Why a $35-Raspberry Pi is better than the New iPad « IT Business Blogs Canada - Opinion .::. Size~: 83.14 KB | Mar 19 11:48 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Cameron seems hell bent on selling off ALL of the UK's public services to #profiteers while he can; worked a treat for rail huh? #politics | Mar 19 12:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Cameron summary "privatise every public service ASAP" | Mar 19 12:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Cameron hidden message "any meetings with private lobbyists and donors who do infrastructure stuff is purely coincidence" #politics | Mar 19 12:17 | |
| formic_ | “We just want kids to get kids programming,” Eben Upton, founder and trustee of the Raspberry Foundation was quoted as saying by the BBC News. | Mar 19 12:52 |
| formic_ | from the department of redundancy department | Mar 19 12:52 |
| MinceR | we just want kids to get the kids to program kids | Mar 19 12:53 |
| Diablo-D3 | formic_: I think he means as opposed to decidedly not kids programming | Mar 19 12:53 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] I thought this was supposed to be the "new" #Tories - reward the rich, punish the poor, sell everything to private corps - what's new? | Mar 19 12:57 | |
| xmux | nope | Mar 19 12:57 |
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| formic_ | I know what he meant I just like to make fun of errors in speech | Mar 19 13:14 |
| formic_ | Not everything the children do may turn our fine. They could make mistakes but that wouldn’t be much of a problem. “Even if a kid ends up breaking it, at $35 the Pi won’t be that hard to replace,” said Abed. | Mar 19 13:18 |
| formic_ | if you can get another one | Mar 19 13:18 |
| formic_ | friggin sold out | Mar 19 13:18 |
| formic_ | "Damn you son, you broke it. Now I gotta wait in line again for a few months" | Mar 19 13:19 |
| formic_ | http://www.pjrc.com/teensy/ | Mar 19 13:19 |
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| formic_ | Teensy is super fun | Mar 19 13:20 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Sharing & remixing class notes on @GoodSemester under Creative Commons BY-SA: http://ur1.ca/8qbyq #OER | Mar 19 13:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks: Boru hattı pazarlıklarını Çalık adına bizzat Başbakan Erdoğan yürüttü - Taraf (Turkey) | http://t.co/vKmjcwUc #gifiles | Mar 19 13:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Criador do #Tugaleaks arguido em processo http://goo.gl/JBi8E Parece q começo a ter razão http://goo.gl/5xL2A #PT #FBI http://goo.gl/Bu4t5 | Mar 19 13:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] OpenROV: Open source robotics seek sharing, travel, gold by @josephbottinger | http://red.ht/wjMu4X #arduino #opensource | Mar 19 13:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Russia says it will keep selling weapons to #Syria | CollapseNet http://goo.gl/jGf4n | Mar 19 13:25 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Iran's Arsenal Of Sunburn Missiles Is More Than Enough To Close The Strait | CollapseNet http://goo.gl/3wB4a #wwiii | Mar 19 13:27 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Iran's Arsenal Of Sunburn Missiles Is More Than Enough To Close The Strait | CollapseNet .::. Size~: 88.28 KB | Mar 19 13:27 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] For people in the #UK order #dfd posters from Sam http://ur1.ca/8qbof !fsfe !gnu !fs | Mar 19 13:30 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Document Freedom Day posters have arrived — Sam's Blog .::. Size~: 39.13 KB | Mar 19 13:30 |
| formic_ | http://wiki.fsfe.org/DFD2012Concepts | Mar 19 13:35 |
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| formic_ | I wonder.... | Mar 19 13:35 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] FreeWear.org http://goo.gl/c1RYp #ANSOL #pt #floss | Mar 19 13:35 | |
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| formic_ | perhaps some of these ancient languages were just proprietary document formats | Mar 19 13:35 |
| oiaohm | Correct | Mar 19 13:42 |
| oiaohm | Scribes in some areas used there own unique formats. | Mar 19 13:42 |
| oiaohm | Just to prevent losing jobs. | Mar 19 13:42 |
| oiaohm | formic_: some templets in eygpt are known to have encoded writing on walls. | Mar 19 13:46 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Vítor Gaspar vai aos EUA explicar ajustamento português a Geithner e Bernanke http://goo.gl/IpJ1I #PT prestar vassalagem aos criminosos mor | Mar 19 13:49 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Vista 8: Slammed Already http://ur1.ca/8qccg #vista8 #vista #windows | Mar 19 13:54 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Who's Afraid of War Crimes Prosecution? #Cheney cancels Toronto speaking event - YouTube http://goo.gl/WFQBQ #criminals | Mar 19 14:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Leveson told press 'jeopardised' Ipswich murders probe http://goo.gl/XuZQk | Mar 19 14:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] How did people book their airline tickets,before online,that is? | Mar 19 14:02 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Pushing for open data? 3 steps to consider from @nik_g | http://red.ht/Ao8mc9 #opengov #opendata | Mar 19 14:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] .@Siyavula enables South African gov't to print 2.4 million math/science textbooks via #CC BY-SA: http://bit.ly/FPmIhQ #OER | Mar 19 14:04 | |
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| XFaCE | scshunt: I see you took up the offer. Welcome to TR. | Mar 19 14:10 |
| XFaCE | :) | Mar 19 14:10 |
| scshunt | ello | Mar 19 14:10 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] FlyMango. I like the name already. | Mar 19 14:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] RT @quaid ♺ @stickster: Interested in helping !Fedora users in your non-English speaking country? New translation testing group: http:// ... | Mar 19 14:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] RT @silner Official !Fedora Linux Remix Now Available For The !RaspberryPi - CrazyEngineers VoiCE http://ping.fm/KjAxJ | Mar 19 14:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] RT @meanmicio #gnuhealth starts modules specific for #MDG6 #AIDS #malaria #TB and Tropical Diseases http://bit.ly/zc46Hc !fsf #ehealth ... | Mar 19 14:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] RT @icetwy Deep privacy concerns raised over Google's new policy http://t.co/V2m9MhKw !Google !fsf !eff !firefox #privacy #fsf | Mar 19 14:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] RT @joshuagay Happy Birthday @RMS !gnu !fsf =] | Mar 19 14:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] RT @ravenman The NSA Is Building the Country’s Biggest Spy Center (Watch What You Say) ur1.ca/8p7t1 !usa !fsf !lp !fc !ows !ccc !fos !to ... | Mar 19 14:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fsfe/@fsfe] RT @samtuke New blog post: Document Freedom Day posters have arrived http://ur1.ca/8qbof | Mar 19 14:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] RT @grote New RC version of #CyanogenMod is out, supports more devices, backported features from #Android 4. Report bugs! http://bit.ly/ ... | Mar 19 14:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] H.264 support coming to Firefox http://ur1.ca/8qcp1 | Mar 19 14:12 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] Without power it's hard to do anything ;) | Mar 19 14:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Almost double to fly on weekends. That option's out... | Mar 19 14:14 | |
| XFaCE | scshunt: have you met Roy yet? | Mar 19 14:14 |
| scshunt | nope | Mar 19 14:15 |
| scshunt | all I've gotten is social media spam | Mar 19 14:15 |
| XFaCE | scshunt: Those are the feeds from Identia | Mar 19 14:16 |
| XFaCE | linked to an IRC aggregate | Mar 19 14:16 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: this is roy | Mar 19 14:17 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] Whoa! That's awesome | Mar 19 14:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] I know: when I use a different system, I think "Wait, I have to open the little menu and..." | Mar 19 14:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] Migraines are pretty shitty, too. I'm willing to try everything. | Mar 19 14:17 | |
| XFaCE | Roderick_: and you came too? | Mar 19 14:18 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Senators Tell The #Obama Administration To Reveal Its Secret Interpretation Of The #PatriotAct http://goo.gl/4BLqD | Mar 19 14:19 | |
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| XFaCE | scshunt: Roy is often busy, so I'd stay on the channel for awhile | Mar 19 14:20 |
| XFaCE | though that isn't a big deal really :) | Mar 19 14:20 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] is there a limit to the number of #xmpp people in a conference? | Mar 19 14:20 | |
| formic_ | scshunt - welcome canadian | Mar 19 14:31 |
| formic_ | we're taking over this channel | Mar 19 14:31 |
| scshunt | haha | Mar 19 14:31 |
| scshunt | muhahahahaha | Mar 19 14:31 |
| XFaCE | formic_: Roderick_'s another Canadian | Mar 19 14:32 |
| formic_ | yes, whois :) | Mar 19 14:32 |
| formic_ | sign up http://standingonguard.com/ | Mar 19 14:32 |
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| formic_ | lets take over | Mar 19 14:32 |
| scshunt | haha | Mar 19 14:34 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Software Patents Slammed; Microsoft Brought Up in Lodsys Case http://ur1.ca/8qcvn #swpats #microsoft #lodsys | Mar 19 14:34 | |
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| formic_ | the world shall drink the blood of maple trees | Mar 19 14:35 |
| XFaCE | formic_: Canadian Bacon reference? | Mar 19 14:37 |
| XFaCE | They ooze down like maple syrup | Mar 19 14:37 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] "evolution should favor smaller body size because smaller organisms have a higher production rate" http://ur1.ca/8qcxl | Mar 19 14:42 | |
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| scshunt | congratulations, you discovered r/K-selection theory | Mar 19 14:43 |
| formic_ | it was a maple syrup reference | Mar 19 14:43 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] NBO - CPT return. USD 1,035.28. Wonder how much that would be sans inflight "entertainment",food and drinks, and pretty hostesses. (1/2) | Mar 19 14:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] #iwanttoflynofrills (2/2) | Mar 19 14:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] #np Damian "Jr Gong" Marley - Affairs of the Heart. >> Can't get enough of this song and video! | Mar 19 14:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Android/Linux is Taking Over Tablets http://ur1.ca/8qczn #linux #android #tablet | Mar 19 14:50 | |
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| schestowitz | hi scshunt | Mar 19 14:53 |
| schestowitz | what's up? | Mar 19 14:54 |
| MinceR | the direction opposite that of the local gravitational field | Mar 19 14:55 |
| schestowitz | sometimes the sun, too | Mar 19 14:55 |
| schestowitz | but rarely | Mar 19 14:55 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Damian "Jr. Gong" Marley - Affairs Of The Heart: http://ur1.ca/8qd1t via @youtube | Mar 19 14:55 | |
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| schestowitz | only for one point on Earth at one time | Mar 19 14:56 |
| scshunt | schestowitz: hello | Mar 19 14:57 |
| scshunt | XFaCE thought I should come round because you would be interested in me, apparently | Mar 19 14:57 |
| scshunt | or something | Mar 19 14:57 |
| XFaCE | yes, pretty much | Mar 19 14:57 |
| schestowitz | yeah, he introduced me behind your back | Mar 19 14:57 |
| XFaCE | nothing derogatory | Mar 19 14:58 |
| schestowitz | 'course not | Mar 19 14:58 |
| XFaCE | scshunt: Also correct me if I'm wrong, you're the president of the PPCA? | Mar 19 14:59 |
| scshunt | correct | Mar 19 15:00 |
| schestowitz | !google ppca | Mar 19 15:00 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - PPCA - Linking Business to Music Makers - PPCA | http://www.ppca.com.au/ | Mar 19 15:00 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - PPCA, Inc. | http://www.ppca-inc.com/ | Mar 19 15:00 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - PPCAonline.com | http://www.ppcaonline.com/ | Mar 19 15:00 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Paradise Park Condominium Association Welcomes You To PPCA ... | http://www.ppca.us/ | Mar 19 15:00 |
| scshunt | schestowitz: pirate party of canada | Mar 19 15:00 |
| schestowitz | which one? | Mar 19 15:00 |
| schestowitz | aha :-) | Mar 19 15:00 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] The maximum rate of mammal evolution http://ur1.ca/8qd33 | Mar 19 15:00 | |
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| scshunt | not the leader though | Mar 19 15:01 |
| scshunt | (it's a Canadian thing) | Mar 19 15:01 |
| schestowitz | I didn't know canada has a PP | Mar 19 15:01 |
| scshunt | yeah we need to fix that | Mar 19 15:01 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: of course you did. I put my membership on the wiki | Mar 19 15:01 |
| schestowitz | We wrote about the NZ and aussie ones | Mar 19 15:01 |
| XFaCE | :S | Mar 19 15:01 |
| schestowitz | maybe the ppca needs some publicity | Mar 19 15:01 |
| schestowitz | esp. in light of copyright and patent policy | Mar 19 15:01 |
| XFaCE | well, we can help with that :) | Mar 19 15:02 |
| schestowitz | american has pirate?!?! | Mar 19 15:02 |
| XFaCE | yes... | Mar 19 15:02 |
| schestowitz | Hehe,the US has no PP AFAIK | Mar 19 15:02 |
| schestowitz | Not a big one anyway | Mar 19 15:02 |
| schestowitz | just two pseudo-parties | Mar 19 15:02 |
| XFaCE | correct | Mar 19 15:02 |
| schestowitz | the business parties | Mar 19 15:02 |
| scshunt | The problem is that political parties in the US are technically at the state level | Mar 19 15:02 |
| schestowitz | they both LURVE copyrights | Mar 19 15:02 |
| scshunt | federal political parties are actually 50 small ones | Mar 19 15:02 |
| schestowitz | and are funded in fact very directly by the copyright cartel, mainly Hollywood-based | Mar 19 15:03 |
| scshunt | it costs more than a million dollars just to run in all 50 states for president | Mar 19 15:03 |
| schestowitz | In the US, copyright reform is NOT EVEN ON THE AGENDA of any candidate | Mar 19 15:03 |
| schestowitz | not even Paul, Nader, independents.. | Mar 19 15:03 |
| schestowitz | Anti-war is entering the agenda now | Mar 19 15:04 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @schestowitz Android/Linux is Taking Over Tablets http://ur1.ca/8qczn #linux #android #tablet | Mar 19 15:04 | |
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| schestowitz | not patent reform, except fake 'reform' (which they claim to have just passed LOL) | Mar 19 15:04 |
| schestowitz | does ppca have a logo? | Mar 19 15:04 |
| XFaCE | yes | Mar 19 15:05 |
| XFaCE | http://www.pirateparty.ca/ | Mar 19 15:05 |
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| schestowitz | where are the policies on swpats? | Mar 19 15:05 |
| XFaCE | "reform of the patents system" | Mar 19 15:06 |
| XFaCE | scshunt: I assume we stand for the abolition of software patents | Mar 19 15:06 |
| schestowitz | is it inherited from the swedish PP policies? | Mar 19 15:06 |
| scshunt | yeah, software patents should die | Mar 19 15:06 |
| scshunt | we don't really have a well-written comprehensive policy | Mar 19 15:07 |
| scshunt | a lot will be inherited from Swedish policies, yeah | Mar 19 15:07 |
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| schestowitz | can we have a statement from the party? | Mar 19 15:08 |
| schestowitz | on swpats? | Mar 19 15:08 |
| schestowitz | One that can be quoted in an article on the subject? | Mar 19 15:08 |
| schestowitz | We have lots of others | Mar 19 15:08 |
| schestowitz | !google techrights pirate party patents | Mar 19 15:09 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Pirate Party of Australia Lashes Out at Software Patents | Techrights | http://techrights.org/2011/11/04/pirate-party-vs-swpats/ | Mar 19 15:09 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Software Patents in New Zealand - Techrights | http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Software_Patents_in_New_Zealand | Mar 19 15:09 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Patents Roundup: Broken System as the News Attests ... - Techrights | http://techrights.org/2011/11/27/broken-system/ | Mar 19 15:09 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Pirate Party of New Zealand Points the Finger at ... - Techrights | http://techrights.org/2011/06/24/simon-power-commended/ | Mar 19 15:09 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] NBO - CPT USD 1054 on South African. | Mar 19 15:09 | |
| XFaCE | bbl | Mar 19 15:10 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Yep. That settles it. It's pretty much USD ~ 500 one way Nairobi to Cape Town. | Mar 19 15:10 | |
| scshunt | schestowitz: I'd love to give you one, but we don't really have a proper position on much. It's kind of sad :( | Mar 19 15:11 |
| scshunt | I could tell you what I think it will be, but that's not that useful | Mar 19 15:11 |
| schestowitz | maybe it's time to write down, even if by derivation | Mar 19 15:11 |
| schestowitz | it's a sure way to get known | Mar 19 15:11 |
| schestowitz | zoobab (FFII president) quotes pages of pirate parties for the patent policies | Mar 19 15:12 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Git project seeks discussion on "push" change http://ur1.ca/8qd5z | Mar 19 15:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Police court order Dotwrong - Technology - NZ Herald News http://goo.gl/okGIc #mafiaa #megaupload vi@ggreenwald | Mar 19 15:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Dont't mind spending a night at Oliver Tambo. Assume it's at least better than JKIA. cc @jack_alumira | Mar 19 15:12 | |
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| schestowitz | scshunt: how about if I ask questions right now in IRC? | Mar 19 15:13 |
| schestowitz | you can respond and I'd make an article with these, with logo, links etc. to the site | Mar 19 15:13 |
| scshunt | I can try. But my answers might suck. | Mar 19 15:15 |
| scshunt | (also, warning, I'll be moving around a bit, so I may drop sporadically for a bit. I use a bouncer so it may be hard to tell. You can /whois me if you need to) | Mar 19 15:15 |
| schestowitz | what is the party's position on MOSAID and i4i? | Mar 19 15:16 |
| scshunt | We don't have one yet.s | Mar 19 15:16 |
| schestowitz | CBC reporters contacted me a few times before, for stuff I wrote about Amazon's one-lick patent in Canada. Did you follow the case? | Mar 19 15:17 |
| scshunt | If you asked me personally on MOSAID and i4i, I'm glad to see that the patents are not entirely biased against the large players, but this doesn't justify them generally. | Mar 19 15:18 |
| scshunt | I only followed the one-click case superficially. | Mar 19 15:18 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Funnier Than Microsoft’s RDP Catastrophe: Cable With Anti-virus Protection http://ur1.ca/8qd6z #virus #xbox | Mar 19 15:19 | |
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| schestowitz | ok, so the simpler question would be, what software patent policy would best serve the interests of the Canadian public? | Mar 19 15:19 |
| schestowitz | [softball question[ | Mar 19 15:19 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] TeK > Comissão vota Lei da Cópia privada amanhã http://goo.gl/R2GBd #pl118 #mafiaa | Mar 19 15:27 | |
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| schestowitz | scshunt: a.so | Mar 19 15:28 |
| schestowitz | scshunt: also, would you agree to being named in the article | Mar 19 15:28 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Oracle vs. Google Becoming a Lost Cause http://ur1.ca/8qddh #oracle #android #java | Mar 19 15:30 | |
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| formic_ | [11:05] <XFaCE> scshunt: I assume we stand for the abolition of software patents | Mar 19 15:32 |
| formic_ | what software patents | Mar 19 15:32 |
| formic_ | if abolition is the goal its already done :) | Mar 19 15:33 |
| schestowitz | it's not so simple | Mar 19 15:33 |
| formic_ | canada has no swpats | Mar 19 15:33 |
| formic_ | only machine related ones | Mar 19 15:33 |
| formic_ | prevention of swpats would be a good goal | Mar 19 15:34 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] A fired CEO, a micro-managing board and yet more tales of incompetence at KENIC: http://bit.ly/FQwaRO (by @wanjiku) cc @eebrah | Mar 19 15:37 | |
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| schestowitz | formic_: he net connection is failing on him today | Mar 19 15:38 |
| formic_ | who | Mar 19 15:38 |
| formic_ | the i4i case was interesting, it was a canadian company but it was using the US swpats laws against microsoft and it did so within the US | Mar 19 15:39 |
| schestowitz | Microeoft ripped them off, but the story is not like you'd think | Mar 19 15:40 |
| schestowitz | MS pretended to be a partner | Mar 19 15:40 |
| schestowitz | just so that it can copy all the ideas | Mar 19 15:41 |
| schestowitz | i4i does not need patents | Mar 19 15:41 |
| schestowitz | it could have signed a contract that locks Microsoft in | Mar 19 15:41 |
| formic_ | didn't i4i also grant a license for open source projects? | Mar 19 15:41 |
| formic_ | iirc | Mar 19 15:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] EFF backs judge calling for warrant in cell phone tracking case: https://eff.org/r.1Vk | Mar 19 15:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The Pirate Party of Canada (PPCA): Software Patents Should Die http://ur1.ca/8qdgi #ppca #swpats | Mar 19 15:42 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: EFF Backs Judge Calling for Warrant in Cell Phone Tracking Case | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 23.26 KB | Mar 19 15:42 |
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| schestowitz | http://digg.com/news/technology/an_open_letter_to_ubuntu_goodbye_microsoft | Mar 19 15:44 |
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| schestowitz | "or you could have downloaded Gnome ppp from packages.ubuntu.com and installed it using dpkg -i" | Mar 19 15:44 |
| formic_ | "People still use dial-up modems." | Mar 19 15:48 |
| formic_ | ROFLMAO | Mar 19 15:48 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] Upgraded my system from !Mageia 1 to Cauldron. Running nicely. Mageia 2 will be great :D | Mar 19 16:04 | |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: Correction Roy, C11 has nothing to do with patents | Mar 19 16:04 |
| schestowitz | XFaCE: relates to it | Mar 19 16:06 |
| schestowitz | indirectly | Mar 19 16:06 |
| schestowitz | "IP" maximalism | Mar 19 16:06 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: It should read that we mentioned the Amazon one-click case in the C11 article | Mar 19 16:07 |
| XFaCE | I suppose | Mar 19 16:07 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] What's new in Linux 3.3 http://ur1.ca/8qdm7 #linux #kernel | Mar 19 16:07 | |
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| XFaCE | still, we could also argue that it buys into the IP propaganda to have them linked | Mar 19 16:07 |
| XFaCE | like RMS said, Patent laws, trademark laws, and copyright laws are all different | Mar 19 16:08 |
| XFaCE | best not to cause confusion to an already confused public | Mar 19 16:08 |
| schestowitz | right, ok | Mar 19 16:10 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] I just pushed some improved ActivitySpam code. There was a bug that was causing page-rendering errors; seems fixed now. | Mar 19 16:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Linux Kernel 3.3 Released, will support Android Apps http://ur1.ca/8qdnj #android not so bad after all... | Mar 19 16:14 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Android Continues To Ignore US Armed Forces http://ur1.ca/8qdnx #linux #android | Mar 19 16:15 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Have you seen http://identi.ca/url/68160875 ? It's wonderful. | Mar 19 16:17 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Linux For The Real World http://ur1.ca/8qdps #linux | Mar 19 16:24 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] How I Was Duped By Mike Daisey's Lies (Gawker): http://gaw.kr/yZRH1D | Mar 19 16:25 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Demand Swift Rejection of #ACTA - http://bit.ly/yJwiaY don't let the European Commission wriggle out of this one | Mar 19 16:32 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Demand Swift Rejection of ACTA | La Quadrature du Net .::. Size~: 29.63 KB | Mar 19 16:32 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/91991353 | Mar 19 16:33 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Georg C. F. Greve (greve)'s status on Monday, 19-Mar-12 10:32:31 UTC - Identi.ca: http://is.gd/glMb0m <irony> This is outrageous! How are future innovators going to invent future Pis if they cannot copyright them? </irony> | Mar 19 16:33 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> Title: US judge rules that you can't copyright pi - physics-math - 16 March 2012 - New Scientist .::. Size~: 58.24 KB | Mar 19 16:33 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Android Tablets Gain Market, Apple Loses | Muktware http://goo.gl/TZVG3 | Mar 19 16:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Google's Nexus Tablet Priced At $149? | Muktware http://goo.gl/aA8n3 #android #tablets | Mar 19 16:34 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Android Tablets Gain Market, Apple Loses | Muktware .::. Size~: 33.22 KB | Mar 19 16:34 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Google's Nexus Tablet Priced At $149? | Muktware .::. Size~: 31.65 KB | Mar 19 16:34 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @greve http://is.gd/glMb0m <irony> This is outrageous! How are future innovators going to invent future Pis if they cannot copyright | Mar 19 16:39 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: US judge rules that you can't copyright pi - physics-math - 16 March 2012 - New Scientist .::. Size~: 58.29 KB | Mar 19 16:39 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #lpic #cbtnuggets #certs RT @schestowitz: Linux For The Real World http://ur1.ca/8qdps #gnulinux | Mar 19 16:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] Motorola cleared of infringing Apple's US patents http://is.gd/Gihkop | Mar 19 16:44 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Combined UK digital economy dwarfs creative sector, time for governments to marginalise copyright lobbyists - http://bit.ly/wsoiM4 key point | Mar 19 16:47 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: SRoC: Slightly Right of Centre: Combined UK digital economy dwarfs creative sector, time for governments to marginalise copyright lobbyists .::. Size~: 98.58 KB | Mar 19 16:47 |
| iophk | http://wh.gov/R3R | Mar 19 16:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Increase NIH funding to $33 billion! The proposed flat $30.7 billion dollars will hurt the econmy and medical research! | The White House .::. Size~: 63.3 KB | Mar 19 16:50 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] Linus releases Linux kernel 3.3: http://t.co/irzdsypK #linux | Mar 19 16:50 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: LKML: Linus Torvalds: Linux 3.3 release .::. Size~: 16.42 KB | Mar 19 16:50 |
| schestowitz | CC books on youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WG78TDntJPM&feature=related | Mar 19 16:53 |
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| schestowitz | shame about the emotionless reading | Mar 19 16:53 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 19/3/2012: Linux 3.3, Wine 1.5.0 http://ur1.ca/8qdxr #techrights | Mar 19 16:54 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Links 19/3/2012: Linux 3.3, Wine 1.5.0 | Techrights .::. Size~: 126.03 KB | Mar 19 16:54 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1433429 | Mar 19 16:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Microsoft has a new trick: daemonise Google over "privacy" to drive people to search powered *by* Red Bing of Death (e.g. DDG) | Mar 19 16:56 |
| schestowitz | "Even *if* Microsoft got the user data via DDG, I'd still prefer that over ubiquitous Google collecting my data all over the effing net (something Microsoft can't do since they are not all over the place, thank $DEITY). " | Mar 19 16:56 |
| schestowitz | "Generally I'd agree with kudłaty's point, although it's worth noting that there is large strategic value for any company just knowing what is being searched for and when, even if they don't know by who. In this way, DDG helps Bing, even if it isn't as much as using Bing itself. That said I use startpage which anonymizes Google search (and trust me, I'm no fan of Google :/ ) " | Mar 19 16:57 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Thanks. I can't join the group; I think it's a bug. | Mar 19 16:59 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1435592 | Mar 19 16:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The Pirate Party of Canada (PPCA): Software Patents Should Die http://techrights.org/2012/03/19/statement-of-ppca/ #ppca #swpats | Mar 19 16:59 |
| schestowitz | "all patents should die, or at least their time of validity greatly reduced. They *are* one of the top reasons for corporate consolidations and monopolizations. " | Mar 19 16:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> Title: The Pirate Party of Canada (PPCA): Software Patents Should Die | Techrights .::. Size~: 81.77 KB | Mar 19 16:59 |
| scshunt | schestowitz: Perhaps there's some total reinvention of the system that would solve the flaws of patent trolls who do nothing but use patents as a means to bully people into giving them money; a complex mire of confusing, ambiguous, and overlapping claims; and a system in which more is spent on litigation than licensing. But we don't know what it is, so unless someone comes up with that magic bullet, software patents should be abolished. Th | Mar 19 17:03 |
| scshunt | schestowitz: also, I'm ok with being named | Mar 19 17:03 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] It just shows whether things are spam; it doesn't remove them (yet). | Mar 19 17:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] If you have news, it will be aggregated and/or curated (GigaOm): http://bit.ly/wW374k | Mar 19 17:04 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: If you have news, it will be aggregated and/or curated — Tech News and Analysis .::. Size~: 72.3 KB | Mar 19 17:04 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] RT @glynmoody Demand Swift Rejection of #ACTA - http://bit.ly/yJwiaY don't let the European Commission wriggle out of this one | Mar 19 17:07 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Demand Swift Rejection of ACTA | La Quadrature du Net .::. Size~: 29.82 KB | Mar 19 17:07 |
| XFaCE | formic_: jay frank? | Mar 19 17:09 |
| schestowitz | scshunt: that last sentence got cut | Mar 19 17:10 |
| schestowitz | "software patents should be abolished. Th" | Mar 19 17:10 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] αρχισε ο μεγας. ο ενας ο μοναδικός, ο τιτανομεγιστος @O_Kanalarhis μας! μόκο και συντονιστείτε στο @radiobubble | Mar 19 17:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] NYTimes talks about #OER, with shout to #openeducationwk and Why Open Education Matters video competition - http://goo.gl/UDhNW | Mar 19 17:15 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @linuxquestions Ingo Molnar on what ails the Linux desktop (Part II) http://tqn.me/FPLkuq | Mar 19 17:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Humble Bundle for Android #2 just when live. Donate to EFF and download 5 amazing games at http://ur1.ca/2l614 Thanks @humble! | Mar 19 17:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] Original: A Peek Behind the Curtain at Puppet Labs http://t.co/fUe1b1vB #linux | Mar 19 17:25 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Community calls for free open data in consultation - http://bit.ly/wVtb1Y interesting moves on the uk #opendata front | Mar 19 17:32 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Community calls for free open data in consultation | Open Rights Group .::. Size~: 20.37 KB | Mar 19 17:32 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] All the time. | Mar 19 17:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #NSA Building A $2 Billion Quantum Computer Artificial Intelligence Spy Center http://goo.gl/19QLG #surveillance #usa #policestate | Mar 19 17:39 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[clackemovedtoparlementumnet/@clackemovedtoparlementumnet] RT @leonardr And that's Mackenzie: the history, politics, and design of some of the most influential standards. Not riveting, but full o ... | Mar 19 17:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[clackemovedtoparlementumnet/@clackemovedtoparlementumnet] RT @leonardr ¤ is not to be confused with ⌑, the "lozenge". An IBM control character not intended for customer use. Spoiler: customers u ... | Mar 19 17:44 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Mossad agrees #Iran has no nuke bomb plot - YouTube http://goo.gl/IpBjf | Mar 19 17:45 | |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC goes in, jono elopes | Mar 19 17:48 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Over 8,200 academics are protesting journals with policies against #OpenAccess. And it's effective: https://eff.org/r.V8m #oa | Mar 19 17:52 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: 8,200+ Strong, Researchers Band Together To Force Science Journals To Open Access | Singularity Hub .::. Size~: 61.39 KB | Mar 19 17:52 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] Throttled net. No fun, can't stream you-tube videos :( | Mar 19 17:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @chicagonpg: As Masks Fall, is Murder, Inc. the real face of the US? http://bit.ly/xYm00r | Mar 19 18:00 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: As Masks Fall, is ‘Murder, Inc.’ the real face of the US?’ — RT .::. Size~: 47.69 KB | Mar 19 18:00 |
| schestowitz | Hehe | Mar 19 18:01 |
| schestowitz | Apple in the headlines | Mar 19 18:01 |
| schestowitz | for failing | Mar 19 18:01 |
| schestowitz | > LINES FOR NEW APPLE IPAD DOWN 75% | Mar 19 18:01 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 19 18:01 |
| schestowitz | > The lines for the new iPad Friday were more than 75 percent shorter than | Mar 19 18:01 |
| schestowitz | > the crowds that gathered to buy the iPad 2. “We counted roughly 550 people | Mar 19 18:01 |
| schestowitz | > on line at 5 locations combined, vs. the 2,300 people we counted in our | Mar 19 18:01 |
| schestowitz | > iPad 2 survey last year,” wrote Daniel Ernst of Hudson Square Research in | Mar 19 18:01 |
| schestowitz | > a report to clients this morning. | Mar 19 18:01 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 19 18:01 |
| schestowitz | > “All but three of the people we spoke with already owned an iPad. During | Mar 19 18:01 |
| schestowitz | > our iPad 2 survey last year we found 69 percent of our 80 respondents did | Mar 19 18:02 |
| schestowitz | > not already have the iPad 1.” | Mar 19 18:02 |
| schestowitz | > ... | Mar 19 18:02 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 19 18:02 |
| schestowitz | > “We have to assume that the hype that follows the release of each new iPad | Mar 19 18:02 |
| schestowitz | > will dissipate incrementally faster than the one before,” said Jim Iuorio, | Mar 19 18:02 |
| schestowitz | > managing director at TJM Institutional Services, who is short the shares. | Mar 19 18:02 |
| schestowitz | > “It is a tremendous company, perhaps one of the most impressive | Mar 19 18:02 |
| schestowitz | > historically, but that doesn’t mean it can’t have dramatic corrections.” | Mar 19 18:02 |
| schestowitz | > ~~ | Mar 19 18:02 |
| schestowitz | > http://sfluxe.com/2012/03/17/lines-for-new-apple-ipad-down-75/ | Mar 19 18:02 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 19 18:02 |
| schestowitz | > Uh oh. "Corrections" in stock prices coming up? And are nearly all iPad 3 | Mar 19 18:02 |
| schestowitz | > buyers, iPad 2 owners? | Mar 19 18:02 |
| schestowitz | > Five in stock at Walmart -- two still left... | Mar 19 18:02 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Lines for New Apple iPad Down 75% | San Francisco Luxury Living .::. Size~: 49.2 KB | Mar 19 18:02 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 19 18:02 |
| schestowitz | > ~~ | Mar 19 18:02 |
| schestowitz | > iPad 3 sales slow here | Mar 19 18:02 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 19 18:02 |
| schestowitz | > FRANKLIN—Friday’s release of the Apple iPad 3 had customers lined up for | Mar 19 18:02 |
| schestowitz | > blocks and camped overnight in some cities, but not in Franklin. | Mar 19 18:02 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 19 18:02 |
| schestowitz | > Sales kicked off at midnight and by 7 a.m. Friday, three of the third- | Mar 19 18:02 |
| schestowitz | > generation tablet computers had been sold at the Walmart on Armory Drive, | Mar 19 18:02 |
| schestowitz | > said Electronics Department Manager Vicky Joyner. | Mar 19 18:02 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 19 18:02 |
| schestowitz | > All was quiet throughout the day. As of early evening, the two of the | Mar 19 18:02 |
| schestowitz | > initial five in stock remained locked up in the display case. They are | Mar 19 18:02 |
| schestowitz | > priced at $499 each. | Mar 19 18:02 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 19 18:02 |
| schestowitz | > Joyner doesn’t expect the iPad 3s to last long at the store and knows more | Mar 19 18:02 |
| schestowitz | > will come in. | Mar 19 18:02 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 19 18:02 |
| schestowitz | > “We will sell out today,” added Mary Stephens, a sales associate at the | Mar 19 18:02 |
| schestowitz | > Walmart. “They are a hot buy.” | Mar 19 18:02 |
| schestowitz | > ~~ | Mar 19 18:02 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.tidewaternews.com/2012/03/17/ipad-3-sales-slow-here/ | Mar 19 18:02 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 19 18:02 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: iPad 3 sales slow here | The Tidewater News .::. Size~: 31.79 KB | Mar 19 18:02 |
| schestowitz | > Define "hot buy." Does that mean they overheat? | Mar 19 18:02 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Yes, almost definitely. | Mar 19 18:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Pakistani National Assembly member confirms IT Ministry will shelve URL filtering plan. https://eff.org/r.V9n #stopcensoringpk | Mar 19 18:09 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: IT ministry shelves plan to install massive URL blocking system – The Express Tribune .::. Size~: 61.71 KB | Mar 19 18:09 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Almost definitely. I've marked them all as ham. | Mar 19 18:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Swedish Fire Torch « Laplander's Natural Lore Blog http://goo.gl/zzY5G wow...great tip #bushcraft #preppers | Mar 19 18:12 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] I Liked the "Linux in the Real World" training video http://is.gd/m0joTs So easy to work with a local mirror and using kickstart files. #fun | Mar 19 18:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[dyfet/@dyfet] I am going to be speaking at #libreplanet in Boston this weekend, slides at http://ur1.ca/8qeky | Mar 19 18:14 | |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz: It means customers putting overpriced tablets on their store credit card | Mar 19 18:15 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Monday's security updates http://ur1.ca/8qemk | Mar 19 18:19 | |
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| DaemonFC | I'm surprised that Google chose Linux as the Android kernel | Mar 19 18:20 |
| DaemonFC | they seem to be trying to avoid the GPL everywhere else | Mar 19 18:21 |
| schestowitz | Not reall | Mar 19 18:21 |
| schestowitz | ySee what Google uses internally | Mar 19 18:21 |
| MinceR | they probably realized that the alternatives are much too inferior | Mar 19 18:22 |
| schestowitz | they saw iOS :-) | Mar 19 18:22 |
| DaemonFC | yeah | Mar 19 18:22 |
| DaemonFC | but they don't have to comply with the GPL for their internal use of Linux | Mar 19 18:22 |
| DaemonFC | (or anything else that they don't DISTRIBUTE) | Mar 19 18:22 |
| DaemonFC | the GPL's requirements don't kick in until you try to DISTRIBUTE a derived work | Mar 19 18:22 |
| schestowitz | Google does not hare GPL | Mar 19 18:22 |
| schestowitz | It just prefers other licences, like Apache | Mar 19 18:23 |
| schestowitz | Does Stein still work for Google? | Mar 19 18:23 |
| DaemonFC | you can fork as many things as you want, patch the shit out of them, and never distribute a single line of code | Mar 19 18:23 |
| DaemonFC | as long as you keep all your forks internal | Mar 19 18:23 |
| DaemonFC | Google can and does do that | Mar 19 18:23 |
| DaemonFC | most companies aren't in a position to do that and get away with it for very long | Mar 19 18:23 |
| DaemonFC | but Google is | Mar 19 18:24 |
| schestowitz | what about Palm and HP? | Mar 19 18:24 |
| DaemonFC | as forks diverge, the maintenance burden increases | Mar 19 18:24 |
| schestowitz | They didn't even give their OS back as FOS | Mar 19 18:24 |
| DaemonFC | they always did distribute the changes to WebOS components that were under the GPL or LGPL | Mar 19 18:25 |
| schestowitz | I'm sure Linus "masturbating monkeys" Torvalds will figure something out | Mar 19 18:25 |
| DaemonFC | they never did release the entire system as open source software because a lot of it was under licenses that didn't mandate that | Mar 19 18:25 |
| DaemonFC | they met their obligations, end of story | Mar 19 18:25 |
| DaemonFC | you would probably never find any of their patches that they were obligated to release useful by themselves | Mar 19 18:26 |
| DaemonFC | but there they are, and they're complying with the license | Mar 19 18:26 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 19 18:26 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I was surprised to learn that DirecTV has a Linux kernel team that works to upstream their patches | Mar 19 18:27 |
| DaemonFC | I noticed some @directv.com email addresses on the XFS development mailing lists with patches attached | Mar 19 18:27 |
| DaemonFC | according to Eric Sandeen, they actually contribute a fair amount of code | Mar 19 18:27 |
| DaemonFC | most of these companies either violate the GPL and rely on the fact that most kernel developers won't enforce their copyrights | Mar 19 18:28 |
| DaemonFC | or at best, kick a tarball over the fence without the patches broken out | Mar 19 18:28 |
| DaemonFC | oh and look, they complied with the GPL but made it too frustrating to figure out what they did | Mar 19 18:29 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Yep, and the unfakeable Linux stuff also didn't seem to add much ;-) http://ur1.ca/8qepf | Mar 19 18:29 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Brian Proffitt - Google+ - Larry has been a very naughty boy? .::. Size~: 81.11 KB | Mar 19 18:29 |
| DaemonFC | DirecTV apparently decided that trying to fork Linux wasn't in their best interest | Mar 19 18:29 |
| DaemonFC | and cooperating in developing the components they use would be cheaper in the long term | Mar 19 18:30 |
| DaemonFC | they're not making money off of Linux directly, but it is saving them a lot of money that they would otherwise end up spending trying to develop and debug their own firmware | Mar 19 18:31 |
| DaemonFC | or trying to license proprietary software | Mar 19 18:31 |
| DaemonFC | I've seen some DVRs attempting to use things like VxWorks or crazy shit like Windows CE | Mar 19 18:31 |
| DaemonFC | it would be nice if more companies realized that GPL compliance and working upstream was in their best interest | Mar 19 18:33 |
| DaemonFC | and that trying to maintain a private fork of the software they use is just going to lead to inferior results that ends up costing them more money | Mar 19 18:33 |
| DaemonFC | but trying to get some companies (like HTC and Samsung) to comply with the GPL can be like a frontal assault on a machine gun nest | Mar 19 18:33 |
| schestowitz | does anyone here have experience with zabbix?\ | Mar 19 18:34 |
| DaemonFC | a lot of the no-name Android tablets are GPL violators | Mar 19 18:34 |
| DaemonFC | Matthew Garrett pointed out why | Mar 19 18:34 |
| schestowitz | yeah, well.. | Mar 19 18:34 |
| DaemonFC | it's cheaper for them to pull the binary firmware from some name brand tablet maker that spend all kinds of money on the SDK and developing drivers and whatnot | Mar 19 18:34 |
| DaemonFC | and sticking it onto what's a more or less identical board | Mar 19 18:35 |
| DaemonFC | so a lot of the time, they don't even HAVE the source code if you ask for it | Mar 19 18:35 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I've been playing around with Android 4.0.4 on my Archos tablet | Mar 19 18:36 |
| DaemonFC | they do use Google-certified Android and they comply with the GPL | Mar 19 18:36 |
| DaemonFC | I finally managed to work around Google's use of Microsoft MTP and FAT | Mar 19 18:37 |
| DaemonFC | which are apparently "standards" for Android | Mar 19 18:37 |
| formic_ | DaemonFC - sometimes I don't know if you're just ranting about something made up or if it's something that actually exists | Mar 19 18:37 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] Just finished a survey on the NSF GRFP: the last question was "Do you have trouble walking up stairs?" | Mar 19 18:37 | |
| DaemonFC | that was some crazy shit I had to go through just to load that firmware upgrade | Mar 19 18:38 |
| DaemonFC | because Google has apparently decided that it's only important for Android to talk to Windows PCs | Mar 19 18:38 |
| DaemonFC | I even came across some Mac OS users who were having problems trying to load that firmware upgrade for the same reason | Mar 19 18:39 |
| DaemonFC | apparently OS X's file manager doesn't speak MTP | Mar 19 18:39 |
| DaemonFC | so there's like, only one file manager I know of that does and that's Windows Explorer | Mar 19 18:39 |
| DaemonFC | *barf* | Mar 19 18:39 |
| DaemonFC | what a fucking joke | Mar 19 18:39 |
| prurigro | formic_, DaemonFC always seems to be making sense, though sometimes I'm a bit surprised at how much energy he's willing to put in when its possible there's noone around to receive the message | Mar 19 18:40 |
| DaemonFC | http://phandroid.com/2011/02/27/mac-users-require-file-transfer-utility-for-android-3-0/ | Mar 19 18:40 |
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| DaemonFC | there's the post I ran into explaining that Mac users have the same problem | Mar 19 18:41 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.android.com/filetransfer/ | Mar 19 18:41 |
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| DaemonFC | of course Google provides a solution for them | Mar 19 18:41 |
| DaemonFC | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11714077&postcount=1 | Mar 19 18:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: xda-developers - View Single Post - Xoom storage, why MTP instead of USB file system, true APP2SD (from Google developer) .::. Size~: 21.43 KB | Mar 19 18:42 |
| DaemonFC | according to Google, they used MTP because it's better than MSC | Mar 19 18:42 |
| DaemonFC | MSC seems to work everywhere (even Windows 95, and I've seen some DOS extenders that can add that!) | Mar 19 18:42 |
| MinceR | their point seems to be that the device can keep the FS mounted if they serve it over MTP | Mar 19 18:43 |
| DaemonFC | MTP in the file manager won't even work on Windows without at least XP SP2 and the Windows Media Player 11 update | Mar 19 18:43 |
| prurigro | I think ICS allows another protocol as well, though I can't place what it was atm | Mar 19 18:43 |
| MinceR | a block device (usually) can't be mounted on more than one computer so if they serve it over MSC, they need to umount it first | Mar 19 18:43 |
| DaemonFC | the MTP driver itself (a new enough one that this would work) only comes with WMP 11 | Mar 19 18:43 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks founder interviews Tunisian President Moncef Marzouki | TL http://t.co/bJYOcQVJ | Mar 19 18:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Suspicions aroused as exploit for critical Windows bug is leaked (Updated) http://goo.gl/L8IhN #crashandburn | Mar 19 18:44 | |
| DaemonFC | so unmount it first and put up a thing on the tablet's screen that says "Your device is connected to a PC. Please disconnect it before continuing to use the device." | Mar 19 18:44 |
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| DaemonFC | or better yet | Mar 19 18:44 |
| DaemonFC | support both | Mar 19 18:45 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Bill Gates Was Speechless When A Microsoft Manager Compared Windows To A Toilet http://ur1.ca/8qetx #microsoft #windows #software | Mar 19 18:45 | |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR: MTP support on Linux seems to be pretty bad | Mar 19 18:46 |
| DaemonFC | it all goes back to a userspace library called libmtp | Mar 19 18:46 |
| DaemonFC | which crashes when you go to write something to the internal storage on my tablet | Mar 19 18:46 |
| prurigro | I can't even convince udev to recognize the mtp end of my tablet | Mar 19 18:46 |
| DaemonFC | MTP is insane | Mar 19 18:47 |
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| DaemonFC | if your device lets you use MSC, use MSC | Mar 19 18:47 |
| DaemonFC | it works | Mar 19 18:47 |
| prurigro | is MSC the other protocol? | Mar 19 18:47 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] voted for "Android" | Mar 19 18:47 | |
| DaemonFC | mass storage class just exposes the file system directly | Mar 19 18:47 |
| DaemonFC | MTP is like a virtual file system layer on top of FAT | Mar 19 18:47 |
| DaemonFC | if you add files in one mode, you don't see them in the other mode | Mar 19 18:48 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 19 18:48 |
| DaemonFC | and MTP is complicated and very unreliable | Mar 19 18:48 |
| DaemonFC | and its real purpose was to serve Windows Media DRM | Mar 19 18:48 |
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| DaemonFC | because MSC exposes the file system, the device can't monitor what you're doing and it makes the DRM less effective because it can't tell you what you can and can't do | Mar 19 18:49 |
| DaemonFC | MTP also supports very precise time stamping which is also useful for DRM | Mar 19 18:49 |
| DaemonFC | the whole thing was made to facilitate DRM | Mar 19 18:50 |
| DaemonFC | not to make a better user experience | Mar 19 18:50 |
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| DaemonFC | I first came across MTP when my old Sansa View tried auto-probing to see what the OS supported | Mar 19 18:51 |
| DaemonFC | it basically figured that every PC was going to be running Windows XP or Windows Vista | Mar 19 18:51 |
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| DaemonFC | and the auto-probing happened in such a way that if the user didn't have an MTP driver to mount the device as a file system under the Windows shell, it would "fail over" to MSC automatically | Mar 19 18:52 |
| DaemonFC | which is all kinds of stupid, but there you go | Mar 19 18:52 |
| prurigro | DaemonFC, ahh, that's quite unattractive of Google, in that case | Mar 19 18:53 |
| DaemonFC | (it fails to account for the user not knowing where all their files went if they add a bunch in MSC mode then plug the thing into a Windows PC that DOES have an MTP driver) | Mar 19 18:53 |
| DaemonFC | so it's not even going to function as they intended if the user uses the device between computers or decides to upgrade Windows at some point | Mar 19 18:53 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 19 18:53 |
| DaemonFC | it will just appear that all their files are gone | Mar 19 18:54 |
| DaemonFC | in Linux distributions, the autoprobing/failover is even more horrifying | Mar 19 18:54 |
| DaemonFC | depending on your set up, one of three things will happen | Mar 19 18:54 |
| DaemonFC | 1: User doesn't have MTP support in their desktop environment/file manager, device fails over to MTP like it would on XP. If user ever plugs the thing into a system that recognizes MTP, same thing happens that I described in the Windows case. Files have "disappeared" but they're really still there and it will just look like the device is missing all that space. | Mar 19 18:56 |
| DaemonFC | 2: User does have libMTP and shell support (like in Ubuntu and some GNOME distributions, Fedora doesn't ship MTP support for the shell by default so see case 1) | Mar 19 18:56 |
| DaemonFC | in this case, libmtp fails to send a signal that the device was mounted as an MTP device | Mar 19 18:57 |
| DaemonFC | the user's shell displays the device as MTP and MSC and you can only write to the MSC one, but they both have the same name | Mar 19 18:57 |
| DaemonFC | the MTP one won't unmount unless you reboot | Mar 19 18:57 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 19 18:57 |
| iophk | http://news.cnet.com/8301-30685_3-57399951-264/linux-and-android-together-at-last/ | Mar 19 18:58 |
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| DaemonFC | 3. God forbid the thing actually mounts as an MTP device in your media player software but the shell doesn't recognize it, now it's working as intended, holy fucking shit. Better hope it never gets mounted as MSC or your files will "disappear". | Mar 19 18:58 |
| DaemonFC | so you know, it's not like it actually works or anything | Mar 19 18:59 |
| DaemonFC | but it's PC hardware designed around Windows | Mar 19 18:59 |
| DaemonFC | so you'd expect nothing less | Mar 19 18:59 |
| prurigro | its strange though, because android is linux | Mar 19 18:59 |
| prurigro | yet | Mar 19 18:59 |
| DaemonFC | at this point the user is probably crying because they know more about MTP, MSC, and Microsoft FAT than they ever wanted to know | Mar 19 18:59 |
| prurigro | it seems to have this focus on FAT-like filesystems | Mar 19 19:00 |
| DaemonFC | and they have to unfuck whatever their device fucked up | Mar 19 19:00 |
| DaemonFC | Rockbox firmware doesn't do MTP | Mar 19 19:00 |
| prurigro | it wont even mount ext# etc automatically | Mar 19 19:00 |
| DaemonFC | doesn't even attempt to | Mar 19 19:00 |
| DaemonFC | MSC-only | Mar 19 19:00 |
| DaemonFC | USE ROCKBOX | Mar 19 19:00 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Yeah, that's OUR job. | Mar 19 19:00 | |
| prurigro | the ipod firmware? | Mar 19 19:00 |
| DaemonFC | if you have to use the built-in firmware, try fishing around and seeing if force MSC is an option | Mar 19 19:01 |
| DaemonFC | it's not just for ipod | Mar 19 19:01 |
| DaemonFC | and it's always better than the firmware that came with your player | Mar 19 19:01 |
| DaemonFC | prurigro: What's strange is that some Android devices recognize the Linux file systems | Mar 19 19:01 |
| DaemonFC | mine seems to recognize Ext2/3/4 and XFS | Mar 19 19:01 |
| DaemonFC | but not JFS or ReiserFS | Mar 19 19:02 |
| DaemonFC | some don't recognize any of those | Mar 19 19:02 |
| prurigro | the custom firmwares quite often have support for even more filesystems | Mar 19 19:02 |
| DaemonFC | some recognize them in the Android file manager but not applications | Mar 19 19:02 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] "In the web world ... the type of people who are traditionally copyleft advocates completely fell asleep at the wheel for a while" < Indeed. | Mar 19 19:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] A review of the Obama Administration's #SunshineWeek: The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly https://eff.org/r.4Vp | Mar 19 19:02 | |
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| DaemonFC | some Android firmwares expose them to applications but not the Android file manager! | Mar 19 19:02 |
| prurigro | but yea, no gui-supported automount/browsing etc | Mar 19 19:02 |
| DaemonFC | but everything seems to know what FAT32 is | Mar 19 19:02 |
| prurigro | I don't blame the firmwares | Mar 19 19:03 |
| DaemonFC | you should blame the firmwares | Mar 19 19:03 |
| prurigro | I think its that whether or not your firmware can mount the filesystem type, the android firmware isn't designed to mount anything but FAT for some reason | Mar 19 19:03 |
| DaemonFC | the firmware should allow the user raw access to the file system | Mar 19 19:03 |
| prurigro | err | Mar 19 19:03 |
| DaemonFC | without "rooting it" | Mar 19 19:03 |
| prurigro | the android gui | Mar 19 19:03 |
| DaemonFC | or doing bizarre crap | Mar 19 19:03 |
| DaemonFC | or whacking the factory firmware and loading Cyanogenmod | Mar 19 19:03 |
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| prurigro | even then though | Mar 19 19:04 |
| prurigro | you get CM or Revolver or whatever | Mar 19 19:04 |
| prurigro | and full filesystem support | Mar 19 19:04 |
| prurigro | yet you have to get a terminal and run mount as root | Mar 19 19:05 |
| MinceR | instead of MTP, they could have supported something like FTP or SFTP over CDC or over WiFi | Mar 19 19:05 |
| DaemonFC | prurigro: Microsoft never released proper MTP support for Windows XP x64 Edition | Mar 19 19:05 |
| DaemonFC | so to mount my Sansa, I had to go into the Device Manager and tell it that it was an "external hard drive" | Mar 19 19:05 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 19 19:05 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] What Difference Can a Year Make? http://ur1.ca/8qf1a #software #statistics #gnu #linux #windows #microsoft | Mar 19 19:05 | |
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| MinceR | (CDC is USB Communincations Device Class) | Mar 19 19:05 |
| prurigro | winxp 64 was a joke | Mar 19 19:05 |
| MinceR | s/nin/ni/ | Mar 19 19:06 |
| DaemonFC | I used it for quite a while | Mar 19 19:06 |
| MinceR | joke xp x64, actually :> | Mar 19 19:06 |
| DaemonFC | I had a system with more than 4 GB of RAM | Mar 19 19:06 |
| MinceR | (m$ came up with "x64", which doesn't exist and doesn't mean anything) | Mar 19 19:06 |
| DaemonFC | and I had an MSDN account | Mar 19 19:06 |
| DaemonFC | so it didn't cost me anything extra | Mar 19 19:06 |
| MinceR | (i guess they lack the neurons to handle four digits with an underscore in between) | Mar 19 19:06 |
| prurigro | DaemonFC, it worked, but it wasn't a complete product | Mar 19 19:07 |
| DaemonFC | so I actually did use XP x64 for a while, and it's not as bad as the story tends to go | Mar 19 19:07 |
| DaemonFC | it totally depended on whether you could find drivers | Mar 19 19:07 |
| prurigro | this is true | Mar 19 19:07 |
| DaemonFC | I ended up pulling some device drivers marked "Vista x64" | Mar 19 19:07 |
| DaemonFC | those work for anything that's not a video or sound card | Mar 19 19:07 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 19 19:07 |
| prurigro | I guess video/sound cards rely more on system backends eh? | Mar 19 19:08 |
| DaemonFC | I pulled Vista 64 drivers for my printer and webcam | Mar 19 19:08 |
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| DaemonFC | prurigro: Microsoft changed the driver model for those devices when Vista was released | Mar 19 19:08 |
| DaemonFC | and pushed them into userspace and out of the kernel | Mar 19 19:08 |
| DaemonFC | msotly anyway | Mar 19 19:09 |
| prurigro | oh no kidding | Mar 19 19:09 |
| prurigro | I assume there was some kinda translation layer? | Mar 19 19:09 |
| prurigro | or else there would have been a huge performance hit | Mar 19 19:09 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, your sound and video driver can crash and assuming you're not playing sound or video at the time you'll never notice | Mar 19 19:09 |
| prurigro | that's friendly | Mar 19 19:09 |
| DaemonFC | if you are and they crash, you just hit play again and it picks up where the application left off | Mar 19 19:09 |
| DaemonFC | well, it was done to facilitate DRM | Mar 19 19:10 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 19 19:10 |
| prurigro | lol, you don't say | Mar 19 19:10 |
| prurigro | sounds like there might have been a few legit reasons | Mar 19 19:10 |
| DaemonFC | when your video and sound drivers are in the kernel, the driver can't crash itself without taking out the kernel | Mar 19 19:10 |
| DaemonFC | and possibly leading to a panic/bsod | Mar 19 19:10 |
| DaemonFC | Vista/7 drivers are designed to crash themselves if they think you're trying to dump out "protected content" | Mar 19 19:10 |
| prurigro | yea, or at least the part of the driver that's in the kernel | Mar 19 19:10 |
| prurigro | vsync splinlock or whatever it is, for example | Mar 19 19:11 |
| DaemonFC | you can use Windows XP display and sound drivers, but it means Vista/7 won't let you play anything that wants to call its DRM platform | Mar 19 19:11 |
| prurigro | and no kidding | Mar 19 19:11 |
| DaemonFC | and in the case of video drivers, you'd be limited to DirectX 9 | Mar 19 19:11 |
| DaemonFC | and Aero Glass won't work | Mar 19 19:11 |
| prurigro | its funny, they work so hard to protect their content | Mar 19 19:11 |
| prurigro | and as far as I'm concerned at least, it only results in me purchasing less of their content | Mar 19 19:12 |
| prurigro | since none of it runs in linux | Mar 19 19:12 |
| DaemonFC | prurigro: Kernel Mode Setting for Linux video drivers is exactly the opposite of what Windows Vista/7 did | Mar 19 19:12 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @iloveubuntu Unity 2D 5.7 released with multimonitor enhancements !ubuntu http://ur1.ca/8qerb | Mar 19 19:12 | |
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| DaemonFC | Linux managing the hardware more closely resembles how a Windows XP (or 2000 or NT) display driver worked | Mar 19 19:12 |
| prurigro | ahh touche eh, I suppose it is, thinking about it | Mar 19 19:12 |
| DaemonFC | proprietary display drivers move everything important out into userspace | Mar 19 19:13 |
| DaemonFC | part of the reason they do that is because they want to minimize their risk of being declared a derivative work of the kernel | Mar 19 19:13 |
| DaemonFC | but the user loses a lot when they go with UMS | Mar 19 19:14 |
| DaemonFC | the kernel can panic and never manage to display the panic screen (user just sees that the last thing X drew is frozen onto the screen) | Mar 19 19:14 |
| DaemonFC | it's less secure for a variety of reasons | Mar 19 19:14 |
| DaemonFC | it's less efficient (only the kernel can do hardware interrupts) | Mar 19 19:15 |
| prurigro | hmm, how recently has there been a panic screen rather than just a hard lock with kernel video drivers? | Mar 19 19:15 |
| DaemonFC | and in that configuration, you have at least 3-4 things (maybe more) that are all trying to talk to the GPU without coordinating with each other | Mar 19 19:15 |
| prurigro | alongside kms? | Mar 19 19:16 |
| DaemonFC | when you use KMS and the kernel panics, you pretty much always get a panic screen | Mar 19 19:16 |
| DaemonFC | (and at the full resolution of your display!) | Mar 19 19:16 |
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| DaemonFC | :D | Mar 19 19:16 |
| DaemonFC | UMS with X controlling the hardware was nothing more than a concession made so that drivers could easily be ported to anything remotely POSIX/UNIX-like that could run an X server | Mar 19 19:18 |
| DaemonFC | hardware makers loved it back when they cared about things that weren't Linux | Mar 19 19:18 |
| prurigro | what's it look like? | Mar 19 19:18 |
| DaemonFC | even though it was crappy and unreliable | Mar 19 19:18 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] A Lawyer Who Is Also A Photographer Just Deleted All Her #Pinterest Boards Out Of Fear - Business Insider http://goo.gl/7LbDA | Mar 19 19:19 | |
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| DaemonFC | prurigro: If you're using UMS, you'll know it just by trying to switch between consoles | Mar 19 19:19 |
| prurigro | you mean when you can't? | Mar 19 19:19 |
| DaemonFC | the kernel has to reset the GPU and load a framebuffer driver | Mar 19 19:19 |
| DaemonFC | then when you switch back to X, the kernel has to reset the GPU, hand over the device to X, and then X has to restore the video mode from when you left | Mar 19 19:20 |
| DaemonFC | with KMS, console switching is instant, console resolution is your monitor's native resolution, the driver is the same, and the hardware is never reset | Mar 19 19:20 |
| prurigro | ohh yea, like I know what KMS looks like | Mar 19 19:21 |
| prurigro | I'm using it ala nouveau and intel respectively | Mar 19 19:21 |
| prurigro | but I've never had a lockup | Mar 19 19:21 |
| DaemonFC | so you can switch consoles to ytour hearts content and your system should never lock up and X will never go crazy and freeze up and so on | Mar 19 19:21 |
| prurigro | so I have no idea what the lock screen would look like | Mar 19 19:21 |
| prurigro | and yea haha, with the nvidia driver I'd essentially stopped switching to vterms in fear of random lockups | Mar 19 19:21 |
| DaemonFC | KDE seems to have gone insane with their screen locking proposal | Mar 19 19:22 |
| DaemonFC | it's easy to securely lock the screen with X | Mar 19 19:22 |
| prurigro | oh? | Mar 19 19:22 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Video: Australia extradited non-profit software "pirate" to 51 months in US prison https://t.co/p41tuzcs | Mar 19 19:22 | |
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| prurigro | is it ala ctrl-alt-del? | Mar 19 19:22 |
| DaemonFC | you put the screen saver in one process and either put the screen locking code in its own thread or in its own process | Mar 19 19:22 |
| DaemonFC | they were complaining that sometimes the screensaver or the screen locker would do weird things and start showing bits and pieces of the desktop | Mar 19 19:23 |
| DaemonFC | that only happens if you're not running them in their own process or thread | Mar 19 19:23 |
| DaemonFC | which, they don't if you use kscreensaver | Mar 19 19:23 |
| DaemonFC | it attempts to do both under kwin | Mar 19 19:23 |
| DaemonFC | which is freaking stupid | Mar 19 19:23 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 19 19:24 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Remember when people were displaying phone numbers with dot separators in apparent mimickry of IP addresses? When did that stop - ~2005? | Mar 19 19:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Linux For The Real World http://ur1.ca/8qdps #gnu #linux #software #job | Mar 19 19:24 | |
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| DaemonFC | you're better off disabling and/or removing kscreensaver | Mar 19 19:24 |
| DaemonFC | and loading xscreensaver | Mar 19 19:24 |
| DaemonFC | gnome did something similar back when they supported screen savers | Mar 19 19:24 |
| DaemonFC | GNOME never did it under metacity, they did run the screensaver in its own process | Mar 19 19:25 |
| DaemonFC | but they did it by reimplementing xscreensaver and calling it gnome-screensaver | Mar 19 19:26 |
| DaemonFC | and gnome-screensaver only ran about 90% of the xscreensaver modules | Mar 19 19:26 |
| prurigro | ahh, that is somewhat legit actually | Mar 19 19:26 |
| DaemonFC | and it ran them with software-accelerated OpenGL | Mar 19 19:26 |
| prurigro | I've definitely caught a momentary glimpse of my desktop before the lockscreen appears | Mar 19 19:26 |
| DaemonFC | that won't happen if you use the actual xscreensaver | Mar 19 19:27 |
| DaemonFC | XFCE should allow you to do that without any arguments | Mar 19 19:27 |
| DaemonFC | KDE has this idea that X is going away soon and that Wayland is imminent and that they shouldn't do anything new that depends on X being there | Mar 19 19:29 |
| prurigro | hmm yea, maybe not eh-- I can't remember when it started happening to be honest.. maybe when hardware accelerated desktops first appeared? though that coulda been gnome 2's fault too | Mar 19 19:29 |
| DaemonFC | I have my doubts | Mar 19 19:29 |
| prurigro | and word, might as well be more portable :) | Mar 19 19:29 |
| DaemonFC | X is going to be around for a long time in some form | Mar 19 19:29 |
| DaemonFC | probably at least the next 20 years or more | Mar 19 19:30 |
| DaemonFC | XFCE is going to have hard dependencies on X until they transition over to GTK+ 3 | Mar 19 19:31 |
| DaemonFC | Qt already has no hard dependencies on X | Mar 19 19:32 |
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| DaemonFC | Qt has its own windowing system, the X backend is just a stub | Mar 19 19:33 |
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| prurigro | DaemonFC, I like the idea of being able to choose between different backends depending on my needs, but yea, there are some things i use X for that Wayland simply isn't designed to do at this point | Mar 19 19:44 |
| prurigro | then again, qt isn't very good at running over X's networking protocol anyway | Mar 19 19:45 |
| DaemonFC | I don't use X for networking | Mar 19 19:48 |
| DaemonFC | there are far better alternatives | Mar 19 19:48 |
| DaemonFC | far more secure | Mar 19 19:48 |
| DaemonFC | far better performing | Mar 19 19:48 |
| DaemonFC | and so on | Mar 19 19:48 |
| DaemonFC | X is more or less just a dinosaur being used as a local display server in most deployments | Mar 19 19:48 |
| DaemonFC | which is what brought Wayland into the picture in the first place | Mar 19 19:49 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Stable kernels 3.0.25 and 3.2.12 http://ur1.ca/8qfc2 | Mar 19 19:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Android Joins The Mainline Linux With 3.3 Release http://ur1.ca/8qfcr #android #cellphone #linux #gnu #kernel #software | Mar 19 19:49 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Stable kernels 3.0.25 and 3.2.12 [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 7.53 KB | Mar 19 19:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Android Joins The Mainline Linux With 3.3 Release | Muktware .::. Size~: 32.59 KB | Mar 19 19:49 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #India signs deals to export 60,000 tons of sugar to #Iran | CollapseNet http://goo.gl/42L7C dollars? for what? | Mar 19 19:50 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: India signs deals to export 60,000 tons of sugar to Iran | CollapseNet .::. Size~: 88.25 KB | Mar 19 19:50 |
| *iophk has quit (Quit: Leaving.) | Mar 19 19:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] ALERT: Australia: PM Gillard changes law, making it easy to extradite Assange to the US http://t.co/NMX12YIG #auspol | Mar 19 19:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Linux 3.3 eats Android http://ur1.ca/8qfdy #gnu #linux #android #software #cellphone | Mar 19 19:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] A Revolt, the Quiet Japanese Way | ZeroHedge http://goo.gl/bhxYl #japan #nuclear #peakoil | Mar 19 19:54 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Extradition and Mutual Assistance Changes Slip in under the Radar | Castan Centre for Human Rights Law .::. Size~: 88.45 KB | Mar 19 19:54 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: A Revolt, the Quiet Japanese Way | ZeroHedge .::. Size~: 114.82 KB | Mar 19 19:54 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] 7 Best Free Application Servers http://ur1.ca/8qff1 #business | Mar 19 19:59 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: 7 Best Free Application Servers - Linux Links - The Linux Portal Site .::. Size~: 31.38 KB | Mar 19 19:59 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] The folks at @SpicyIP examine heightened threats of anti-"piracy" efforts and web censorship in India https://eff.org/r.V9q | Mar 19 20:00 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] INPI abre consulta pública sobre exame de patente que inclui programa de computador - http://bit.ly/FRH0cO important #swpats #brazil | Mar 19 20:00 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is jpope from micro.jpope.org with 78 dents! | Mar 19 20:00 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: SPICY IP: Anti-piracy movement in India gains heat: Cause for concern or justified response? .::. Size~: 154.29 KB | Mar 19 20:00 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] (last link v @pedroparanagua) | Mar 19 20:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @neustradamus !VLC media player 2.0.1 has been released ( !VideoLAN ) http://ur1.ca/my1e | Mar 19 20:02 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: VideoLAN - Official page for VLC media player, the Open Source video framework! .::. Size~: 25.81 KB | Mar 19 20:02 |
| formic_ | prurigro: Kde4 works on mc | Mar 19 20:03 |
| formic_ | Nix | Mar 19 20:03 |
| formic_ | Nx | Mar 19 20:03 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Wine 1.5.0 released http://ur1.ca/8q6it #windows #gnu #linux | Mar 19 20:04 | |
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| prurigro | DaemonFC, what do you use? | Mar 19 20:04 |
| prurigro | formic_, mc/nix/nx? | Mar 19 20:04 |
| formic_ | Stupid spellcheck | Mar 19 20:05 |
| formic_ | Nx | Mar 19 20:05 |
| prurigro | ahh, I can't remember, had you said that was proprietary? | Mar 19 20:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Teacher Suspended For Reading 'Ender's Game' To Middle School Students - http://onforb.es/FPXMIb idiot parent: "it's pornographic" | Mar 19 20:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Moving BI off the Mainframe http://ur1.ca/8qfhy #gnu #linux #redhat | Mar 19 20:07 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: South Carolina Teacher Suspended For Reading 'Ender's Game' To Middle School Students - Forbes .::. Size~: 100.63 KB | Mar 19 20:07 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Moving BI off the Mainframe | SmartData Collective .::. Size~: 63.04 KB | Mar 19 20:07 |
| prurigro | not that proprietary is automatically bad, especially when its pretty clear that there's no extra-server connectivity going on, but I prefer open setups if possibly if for no reason but compatibility and the expectation that it'll be around in the future | Mar 19 20:08 |
| formic_ | it uses openssh and the x protocol | Mar 19 20:08 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Summit Entertainment Claims To Own The Date November 20, 2009; Issues Takedown On Art Created On That Day - http://bit.ly/FRLHnB riiight | Mar 19 20:09 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Summit Entertainment Claims To Own The Date November 20, 2009; Issues Takedown On Art Created On That Day | Techdirt .::. Size~: 66.28 KB | Mar 19 20:09 |
| formic_ | it optimizes the transmission and forces it through ssh | Mar 19 20:09 |
| DaemonFC | [16:07] <DaemonFC> kde-workspace (4:4.8.1-0ubuntu4) precise; urgency=low | Mar 19 20:09 |
| DaemonFC | [16:07] <DaemonFC> * kdmrc_defaults_kubuntu.diff: | Mar 19 20:09 |
| DaemonFC | [16:07] <DaemonFC> - Enable TerminateServer by default to work around graphics | Mar 19 20:09 |
| DaemonFC | [16:07] <DaemonFC> driver issues | Mar 19 20:09 |
| DaemonFC | [16:07] <DaemonFC> THANK YOU! | Mar 19 20:09 |
| DaemonFC | [16:08] <DaemonFC> (it's only been hanging by default since Kubuntu 11.04 forcing me to edit that file about 100 times) | Mar 19 20:09 |
| DaemonFC | [16:08] <DaemonFC> :) | Mar 19 20:09 |
| prurigro | formic_, so nomachine is essentially a compression algorithm on existing protocols? | Mar 19 20:10 |
| DaemonFC | proprietary software has a hard time fitting into an environment where most of the software is free software under a copyleft license | Mar 19 20:10 |
| formic_ | prurigro - yeah basicly | Mar 19 20:10 |
| DaemonFC | they have to watch what they touch or risk becoming a derivative work | Mar 19 20:10 |
| formic_ | you can get freenx too | Mar 19 20:10 |
| formic_ | its based on nx 3.x | Mar 19 20:10 |
| DaemonFC | so you end up with an Opera, Trine, or Nvidia/ AMD Catalyst | Mar 19 20:10 |
| prurigro | formic_, oh hmm- now freenx looks doable | Mar 19 20:10 |
| DaemonFC | which ships its own versions of damned near everything | Mar 19 20:10 |
| prurigro | and yea, I can't stand opera | Mar 19 20:10 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Cinnamon 1.4 released http://ur1.ca/8qfjg | Mar 19 20:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Obama's personal role in the imprisonment of a journalist | Salon http://t.co/0jAVvAHw @ggreenwald | Mar 19 20:10 | |
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| formic_ | opera isn't the shit, opera is shit | Mar 19 20:11 |
| prurigro | even if it was free, I mean, I'd be looking at it in a different light | Mar 19 20:11 |
| prurigro | but I guess you just love it or hate it | Mar 19 20:11 |
| formic_ | if opera was open source I might try it | Mar 19 20:11 |
| prurigro | XFaCE says midori is a similar free browser (to opera) | Mar 19 20:11 |
| formic_ | I can't use a browser where the source code isn't available | Mar 19 20:11 |
| prurigro | obviously it doesn't share the rendering engine | Mar 19 20:11 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @eff Over 8,200 academics are protesting journals with policies against #OpenAccess. And it's effective: https://eff.org/r.V8m #oa | Mar 19 20:12 | |
| prurigro | opera also has a feature in some of its deployments where it downloads the website on its server and sends a smaller equivalent to your browser | Mar 19 20:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: 8,200+ Strong, Researchers Band Together To Force Science Journals To Open Access | Singularity Hub .::. Size~: 61.39 KB | Mar 19 20:12 |
| formic_ | it's too important of a program, and too much risk for there to be spyware in it | Mar 19 20:12 |
| prurigro | I don't like features like that | Mar 19 20:12 |
| prurigro | and true | Mar 19 20:12 |
| formic_ | not enough protection against sites either (no Disconnect equiv for Opera) | Mar 19 20:13 |
| DaemonFC | well, I discovered a problem with the GNU libc that Trine comes linked against | Mar 19 20:14 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Linpus Lite Desktop 1.7 screen shot preview http://ur1.ca/8q6je #gnu #linux #linpus #photo #screenshot | Mar 19 20:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @glynmoody Demand Swift Rejection of #ACTA - http://bit.ly/yJwiaY don't let the European Commission wriggle out of this one | Mar 19 20:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @vlax "stop accepting terrorism or child pornography as excuses for warping technology into a system of oppression" RMS !q http://ur1 ... | Mar 19 20:14 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Linpus Lite Desktop 1.7 screen shot preview .::. Size~: 106.46 KB | Mar 19 20:14 |
| DaemonFC | but it turns out that it dynamically links and it just happens to try the copy it comes bundled with first | Mar 19 20:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Demand Swift Rejection of ACTA | La Quadrature du Net .::. Size~: 29.82 KB | Mar 19 20:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Couldn't resolve host 'ur1' ( http://ur1 ) | Mar 19 20:14 |
| DaemonFC | so deleting it resolves the problem | Mar 19 20:14 |
| DaemonFC | since the game will seek out and link against the system libc instead | Mar 19 20:14 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 19 20:14 |
| DaemonFC | they pack in duplicates of hundreds of system libraries | Mar 19 20:15 |
| DaemonFC | and that's why the game is a 600 MB download | Mar 19 20:15 |
| formic_ | it probably works with little deps though | Mar 19 20:15 |
| DaemonFC | the games files including the content is only about 400 MB | Mar 19 20:15 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, I kept deleting the libs it came with one by one | Mar 19 20:15 |
| DaemonFC | seeing where it failed | Mar 19 20:15 |
| DaemonFC | and installing a copy of that from apt | Mar 19 20:15 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 19 20:15 |
| DaemonFC | the C library they ship with causes their test for GLSL support to fail | Mar 19 20:16 |
| DaemonFC | and the game will insist that your hardware isn't capable of "Shader Model 3" | Mar 19 20:16 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 19 20:17 |
| DaemonFC | which is what Microsoft calls the equivalent DirectX HLSL shader functionality level to what GLSL 1.2 provides | Mar 19 20:17 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Mar 19 20:17 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Apple's plan to avoid future confusion over "new #iPad" delete all mentions of previous one & threaten all 3rd parties with #DMCA #rewrite | Mar 19 20:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] "there was no previous "new iPad" before this one, we've managed to rewrite it out of history, that item you're waving at me is a fake" | Mar 19 20:17 | |
| DaemonFC | which shows how much of a hack job that port was | Mar 19 20:17 |
| DaemonFC | but, if you use proprietary drivers the test succeeds | Mar 19 20:18 |
| DaemonFC | because the proprietary OpenGL stacks from Nvidia and AMD will both return True for all the Windows functionality the game asks about | Mar 19 20:18 |
| DaemonFC | even though it's not using Windows functionality on Linux | Mar 19 20:19 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft noticed years back with DirectX that some display drivers were returning "True" no matter what functionality you were testing for | Mar 19 20:19 |
| DaemonFC | so around DirectX 6, it started asking if the driver supported features that don't really exist | Mar 19 20:20 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] we were always at war with #Eurasia #1984 #Apple #newiPad #DMCA there was always only one new iPad | Mar 19 20:20 | |
| DaemonFC | and if it said yes, DirectX would fall back to probing each and every feature one by one so that the driver couldn't lie | Mar 19 20:21 |
| DaemonFC | it turned out that Nvidia was always returning True so that diagnostic utilities asking about features they didn't really support wouldn't embarrass them | Mar 19 20:21 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] Milton Friedman explains the difference between free as in freedom and free as in lunch http://ur1.ca/8qfmj #youtube !fs | Mar 19 20:22 | |
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| DaemonFC | Microsoft never mentioned Nvidia by name | Mar 19 20:27 |
| DaemonFC | but it was only Nvidia that was doing it | Mar 19 20:27 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] There's no escape from the corporations that run India http://gu.com/p/36a77 | Mar 19 20:27 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: There's no escape from the corporations that run India | Arundhati Roy | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 263.38 KB | Mar 19 20:27 |
| DaemonFC | another humble bundle has just been announced | Mar 19 20:28 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.humblebundle.com/ | Mar 19 20:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The Humble Bundle for Android 2 (pay what you want and help charity) .::. Size~: 193.03 KB | Mar 19 20:28 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Road #privatisation is the latest step in the stripping of Britain's assets http://gu.com/p/369zy | Mar 19 20:29 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Road privatisation is the latest step in the stripping of Britain's assets | John Harris | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 275.15 KB | Mar 19 20:29 |
| DaemonFC | I'm tossing in $5 for the EFF | Mar 19 20:31 |
| DaemonFC | kind of broke this month | Mar 19 20:31 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Mar 19 20:31 |
| DaemonFC | I usually try to toss in $10 for the developers and $10 for the EFF | Mar 19 20:32 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] WTF IS THIS ? http://ur1.ca/8qg03 | Mar 19 20:34 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: glyn moody - Google+ - Summit Entertainment Claims To Own The Date November 20,… .::. Size~: 82.11 KB | Mar 19 20:34 |
| scshunt | wow | Mar 19 20:37 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.eff.org/press/releases/paypal-announces-new-speech-friendly-policy-online-book-sales | Mar 19 20:38 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: PayPal Announces New Speech-Friendly Policy for Online Book Sales | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 23.16 KB | Mar 19 20:38 |
| formic_ | what about ATI advertising it supported versions of DX that didn't even exist | Mar 19 20:39 |
| formic_ | 10.1, 10.2, etc | Mar 19 20:39 |
| DaemonFC | DirectX 10.1 does exist | Mar 19 20:39 |
| DaemonFC | and I don't recall them doing that | Mar 19 20:40 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Nightmarish scenarios of the coming financial #collapse ‹ #Japan Today http://goo.gl/awZQN | Mar 19 20:40 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Nightmarish scenarios of the coming financial collapse ‹ Japan Today: Japan News and Discussion .::. Size~: 93.67 KB | Mar 19 20:40 |
| DaemonFC | Edward Felten is on the EFF board of directors now? | Mar 19 20:41 |
| DaemonFC | He's the one that testified in US v. Microsoft about Internet Explorer being needlessly bundled with Windows | Mar 19 20:41 |
| DaemonFC | and demonstrated a small script he wrote to remove it with | Mar 19 20:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ABC Reports Russian Troops Have Arrived In #Syria, #Russia Denies | ZeroHedge http://goo.gl/ZRDBd #wwiii | Mar 19 20:42 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: ABC Reports Russian Troops Have Arrived In Syria, Russia Denies | ZeroHedge .::. Size~: 161.43 KB | Mar 19 20:42 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Duqu trojan built by 'old school' programmers, Kaspersky says - (Computerworld): http://bit.ly/FQ1uS9 | Mar 19 20:45 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Duqu trojan built by 'old school' programmers, Kaspersky says - Computerworld .::. Size~: 135.57 KB | Mar 19 20:45 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] A glass of wine, Amy Winehouse vinyl on the deck, that's what I call a relaxed evening after a hard working day. | Mar 19 20:49 | |
| DaemonFC | landlord called | Mar 19 20:58 |
| DaemonFC | wanted me to go ask Dawn to call him back | Mar 19 20:58 |
| DaemonFC | heh | Mar 19 20:58 |
| *DaemonFC bets she's late on her rent and screening her calls | Mar 19 20:59 | |
| DaemonFC | again | Mar 19 20:59 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] CEO dares #Microsoft to sue him over virtual desktops that flout licensing http://goo.gl/mxmMC | Mar 19 21:00 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: CEO dares Microsoft to sue him over virtual desktops that flout licensing .::. Size~: 40.47 KB | Mar 19 21:00 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Patent Troll Targets Samsung and RIM With Emoticon Button Patent http://goo.gl/hjbJO | Mar 19 21:04 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Patent Troll Targets Samsung and RIM With Emoticon Button Patent - Slashdot .::. Size~: 60.16 KB | Mar 19 21:04 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @ovigia agreed... I'd not blame citizens (99%) for actions of their government which appears at least as unresponsive to citizens as my own | Mar 19 21:05 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Turns out he's pissed at her for moving that guy in and not telling him about it | Mar 19 21:06 |
| DaemonFC | it says in our leases that any additional occupants are an extra $25 a month to compensate the landlord for the extra utilities they'll use | Mar 19 21:06 |
| DaemonFC | so naturally everyone just moves in their significant other, family members, etc. and doesn't tell him about it | Mar 19 21:07 |
| DaemonFC | http://mobile.slashdot.org/story/12/03/19/1750233/free-apps-eat-your-smartphone-battery | Mar 19 21:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Free Apps Eat Your Smartphone Battery - Slashdot .::. Size~: 242.76 KB | Mar 19 21:15 |
| DaemonFC | or you can just root your tablet and install Privoxy | Mar 19 21:15 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Some days I find myself impressed with the National Post with reporting that is bang on, but today? Blatant attempt at spin re !freeByron | Mar 19 21:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] Less than 60 seats remaining at LibrePlanet 2012. #lp2012 | Mar 19 21:15 | |
| *ThistleWeb has quit (Quit: Ex-Chat) | Mar 19 21:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] NatPO: "Accused #G20 plotter Byron #Sonne had training manual for activists,’ court hears" …no "plotter" in Code http://www.ur1.ca/8qgd2 | Mar 19 21:22 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] NatPo makes much of !FreeByron possessing "Security Culture: A Handbook for Activists" (parroting Crown?) … http://www.ur1.ca/8qge9 !CDNpoli | Mar 19 21:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] What if !Ubuntu were right? http://ping.fm/tDKjN | Mar 19 21:29 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Accused G20 plotter Byron Sonne had ‘training manual for activists,’ court hears | Posted Toronto | National Post .::. Size~: 71.73 KB | Mar 19 21:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: What if Ubuntu were right? - Where is Ploum? .::. Size~: 37.95 KB | Mar 19 21:29 |
| formic_ | DaemonFC - do you get a $25 discount for doing his job? | Mar 19 21:33 |
| formic_ | ie, ratting out your neighbors to him | Mar 19 21:33 |
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| DaemonFC | no | Mar 19 21:35 |
| DaemonFC | they just tend to annoy me enough that it's an easy way of getting rid of them | Mar 19 21:35 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Thermosolar power station in #Spain works at night http://goo.gl/yHlil vi@eartheats #energy | Mar 19 21:35 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Thermosolar power station in Spain works at night .::. Size~: 183.98 KB | Mar 19 21:35 |
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| DaemonFC | formic_: The landlord doesn't care about them being loud and obnoxious and throwing trash all over the lawn | Mar 19 21:38 |
| DaemonFC | but he does care about not being paid | Mar 19 21:38 |
| DaemonFC | so the best way to get rid of them is to let him know they're not paying him | Mar 19 21:38 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Reddit Is Fun Gets Banned From The !Google Play Store http://ping.fm/RQoLX | Mar 19 21:39 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Reddit Is Fun Gets Banned From The Google Play Store For "Sexually Explicit Material", Reddit Users In An Uproar .::. Size~: 194.91 KB | Mar 19 21:39 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] I'm wondering when it became illegal for Canadians to read, or even to know - or share - what our rights are !CDNpoli !Canada !FreeByron | Mar 19 21:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] German court orders RapidShare to proactively monitor user uploads http://ping.fm/1JMvI | Mar 19 21:44 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: German court orders RapidShare to proactively monitor user uploads - TechSpot News .::. Size~: 50.92 KB | Mar 19 21:44 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♺ @g20mobilize Court Support Reminder: Byron Sonne's trial resumes today at 361 University Ave: http://is.gd/ALmCFJ !FreeByron! #g20report | Mar 19 21:47 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Call for court support: Byron Sonne's trial resumes - March 19th | Community Solidarity Network .::. Size~: 13.38 KB | Mar 19 21:47 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] No, happening in !Canada NOW .... the Crown Attorney (that's DA in American) is selling !FreeByron's reading material as guilt @lnxwalt | Mar 19 21:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Microsoft Manual of Style http://goo.gl/adXCl from the same people who brought you updates with number titles kb326424 well, it's consistent | Mar 19 22:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] might be fucking useless, but it is consistently fucking useless #WindowsUpdate #namingscheme | Mar 19 22:05 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Book Review: Microsoft Manual of Style - Slashdot .::. Size~: 106.27 KB | Mar 19 22:05 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @kevie ♻ @tpb Google Defends Hotfile (and Megaupload) in Court: Google has filed a brief at a federal court in Florida defe... http:/ ... | Mar 19 22:30 | |
| DaemonFC | it's going to be 86 degrees tomorrow | Mar 19 22:33 |
| DaemonFC | this is a heatwave like I've never seen before | Mar 19 22:33 |
| DaemonFC | this feels like August | Mar 19 22:33 |
| schestowitz | heh, good luck with old that | Mar 19 22:34 |
| schestowitz | And a swety bearman pig in the room | Mar 19 22:34 |
| scshunt | no kidding | Mar 19 22:34 |
| schestowitz | itat ought to reek | Mar 19 22:34 |
| scshunt | DaemonFC: NE USA I assume? | Mar 19 22:34 |
| schestowitz | Indiana | Mar 19 22:35 |
| DaemonFC | http://news.opb.org/article/historic_march_heat_wave_sets_new_milestones/ | Mar 19 22:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Historic March Heat Wave Sets New Milestones · OPB News .::. Size~: 28.7 KB | Mar 19 22:35 |
| scshunt | ah, yeah, that'd do it | Mar 19 22:35 |
| scshunt | not all that far from here | Mar 19 22:36 |
| DaemonFC | this isn't unprecedented | Mar 19 22:39 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.esrl.noaa.gov/psd/tmp/climdiv/cd108.28.182.205.78.15.42.31.prcp.png | Mar 19 22:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting image/png type | Mar 19 22:40 |
| DaemonFC | something like this happened in March of 1945 | Mar 19 22:40 |
| formic_ | citation needed | Mar 19 22:40 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] I can't promise anything @kevie , but !jamendo has worked wonderfully since I started !Trisquel ... b4 (in XP) I had to download to listen | Mar 19 22:40 | |
| DaemonFC | I just did | Mar 19 22:41 |
| DaemonFC | https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=672361 | Mar 19 22:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Bug 672361 – Remove cairo-gl dependency from wayland backend .::. Size~: 28.73 KB | Mar 19 22:41 |
| DaemonFC | Nvidia's broken proprietary drivers are causing headaches for GNOME developers | Mar 19 22:41 |
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| DaemonFC | recently Nvidia's broken proprietary driver was caught doing text relocations(!!!!) and a glibc updated caused it to start crashing | Mar 19 22:42 |
| DaemonFC | *update | Mar 19 22:42 |
| DaemonFC | this one causes Nvidia's broken proprietary driver to start pigging out on memory if you try to enable Wayland support in GTK | Mar 19 22:43 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Graphene supercapacitors are 20 times as powerful, can be made with a DVD burner http://identi.ca/url/68163535 | Mar 19 22:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Graphene supercapacitors are 20 times as powerful, can be made with a DVD burner http://identi.ca/url/68163535 !science | Mar 19 22:45 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Graphene supercapacitors are 20 times as powerful, can be made with a DVD burner | ExtremeTech .::. Size~: 55.04 KB | Mar 19 22:45 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Graphene supercapacitors are 20 times as powerful, can be made with a DVD burner | ExtremeTech .::. Size~: 55.04 KB | Mar 19 22:45 |
| DaemonFC | I haven't used Nvidia cards in a while, the last time I tried to use their broken proprietary driver, I hit the "Texture from pixmap is SLOOOOOOOW" problem | Mar 19 22:46 |
| DaemonFC | I'm not sure if that still exists or not | Mar 19 22:46 |
| DaemonFC | I recall Compiz recommending Nouveau because of that | Mar 19 22:46 |
| DaemonFC | Moronix is "benchmarking" the direct rendering manager, again | Mar 19 22:47 |
| DaemonFC | with radeon | Mar 19 22:47 |
| formic_ | moronix cause ur card looks bad | Mar 19 22:48 |
| DaemonFC | even though that's pointless since the kernel work is basically done aside from a few missing features | Mar 19 22:48 |
| DaemonFC | he puts up non-news every day because his site is 99% advertising and 0.9% popups | Mar 19 22:48 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 19 22:48 |
| formic_ | no i think you just make up problems so you have something to talk about in here | Mar 19 22:49 |
| DaemonFC | the more walls of text he puts up with links to his other pages, the more ads he can foist on people | Mar 19 22:49 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz links to that drivel every day | Mar 19 22:49 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♺ @nybill This !copyright stuff is getting ridiculous! Company claims to own date⇒ http://www.ur1.ca/8qh8t ⇒ !Canada 's future !C11 !CDNpoli | Mar 19 22:50 | |
| formic_ | does he have ads too? | Mar 19 22:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Summit Entertainment Claims To Own The Date November 20, 2009; Issues Takedown On Art Created On That Day | Techdirt .::. Size~: 100.67 KB | Mar 19 22:50 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz? | Mar 19 22:51 |
| DaemonFC | no | Mar 19 22:51 |
| DaemonFC | he stopped a while back when ad bard went under | Mar 19 22:51 |
| DaemonFC | when you go to Moronix you get a page full of skyscraper Microsoft ads | Mar 19 22:52 |
| DaemonFC | unless you use Adblock Plus | Mar 19 22:52 |
| DaemonFC | his site is really useful for making sure your ad blocking is working | Mar 19 22:52 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 19 22:52 |
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| DaemonFC | I'm probably going to stay with Linux 3.2 for a while | Mar 19 22:54 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Hah, they messed this up too ---> Judge Judith Potter said the court order should now be considered "null and void". ... http://b1t.it/a8uF | Mar 19 22:54 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Nandan Vaidya - Google+ - Hah, they messed this up too ---> Judge Judith Potter said… .::. Size~: 81.96 KB | Mar 19 22:54 |
| DaemonFC | the bits that actually control my radeon card are sufficiently mature at this point that I don't see any reason to pull newer kernels just for that | Mar 19 22:54 |
| DaemonFC | Mesa and libdrm are another story entirely | Mar 19 22:54 |
| DaemonFC | I still plan to use git builds for them | Mar 19 22:55 |
| DaemonFC | there's a couple things I might backport to a Linux 3.2 kernel though | Mar 19 22:55 |
| DaemonFC | HDMI audio support is a pretty small patch | Mar 19 22:56 |
| MinceR | gn | Mar 19 22:57 |
| schestowitz | nn | Mar 19 22:58 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @x11r5: @kete Swearygeek: @martinpribble i've not had to block one of the 1% fella, or as greedy bastards say: "the needs of the point | Mar 19 22:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Gigabit Internet , yes INTERNET for $70.FFS, here in India, I pay $20 for a 1Mbps line :( http://ur1.ca/8qhbc... http://b1t.it/a8uJ | Mar 19 22:59 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: ur1 Generator .::. Size~: 2.26 KB | Mar 19 22:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Nandan Vaidya - Google+ - Gigabit Internet , yes INTERNET for $70. FFS, here in… .::. Size~: 82.93 KB | Mar 19 22:59 |
| schestowitz | [22:49] <DaemonFC> schestowitz links to that drivel every day | Mar 19 22:59 |
| schestowitz | "LGP going under" | Mar 19 22:59 |
| schestowitz | "LGP almost going under" | Mar 19 22:59 |
| DaemonFC | STEAM ON LINUX!!! | Mar 19 22:59 |
| schestowitz | "LGP: still alive?" | Mar 19 22:59 |
| schestowitz | Yeah | Mar 19 22:59 |
| DaemonFC | ZOMG STEAM!!! | Mar 19 22:59 |
| schestowitz | that too | Mar 19 22:59 |
| DaemonFC | I FOUND STEAM BINARIES ON A MAC OS GAME!!!! | Mar 19 23:00 |
| DaemonFC | FOR LINUX!!! | Mar 19 23:00 |
| schestowitz | vapiur | Mar 19 23:00 |
| DaemonFC | ZOMG LINUX STEAM | Mar 19 23:00 |
| schestowitz | ware | Mar 19 23:00 |
| DaemonFC | STEAM LINUX | Mar 19 23:00 |
| DaemonFC | LINUX ZOMG STEAM | Mar 19 23:00 |
| schestowitz | Steam Ballmer !! | Mar 19 23:00 |
| DaemonFC | ads ads ads | Mar 19 23:00 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 19 23:00 |
| schestowitz | Windows Server(r) | Mar 19 23:00 |
| DaemonFC | there's an oxymoron | Mar 19 23:00 |
| schestowitz | Windows client too | Mar 19 23:01 |
| DaemonFC | it's about the most god awful "server" OS I've ever even dealt with | Mar 19 23:01 |
| schestowitz | there are no clients | Mar 19 23:01 |
| schestowitz | except the OEMs | Mar 19 23:01 |
| schestowitz | Foised upon | Mar 19 23:01 |
| schestowitz | users don't choose Windows | Mar 19 23:01 |
| DaemonFC | even Mac OS X Server is more pleasant to deal with | Mar 19 23:01 |
| schestowitz | they're not clients | Mar 19 23:01 |
| formic_ | lusers choose windows | Mar 19 23:01 |
| schestowitz | they're a side effect | Mar 19 23:01 |
| schestowitz | a | Mar 19 23:01 |
| schestowitz | a symptom | Mar 19 23:01 |
| scshunt | Linux Steam shouldn't be a surprise | Mar 19 23:01 |
| scshunt | http://www.valvesoftware.com/job-SenSoftEngineer.html | Mar 19 23:01 |
| formic_ | people brainwashed in school to use winderz | Mar 19 23:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Valve .::. Size~: 6.88 KB | Mar 19 23:01 |
| MinceR | lusers tend to not choose at all | Mar 19 23:01 |
| DaemonFC | scshunt: That posting has been up since like 2007 | Mar 19 23:01 |
| DaemonFC | it's just not going to happen | Mar 19 23:02 |
| DaemonFC | when VALVE says they have something coming, then there will be "Steam for Linux is on the way" and you know it's not just some fake out to whore out Microsoft ads on Moronix | Mar 19 23:02 |
| DaemonFC | Valve's official reply to that is that they currently have no plans to support a Linux client | Mar 19 23:03 |
| DaemonFC | so there you go | Mar 19 23:03 |
| DaemonFC | it's not happening until Valve says otherwise | Mar 19 23:03 |
| DaemonFC | I mean they would know wouldn't they? | Mar 19 23:03 |
| formic_ | i doubt they know too much | Mar 19 23:04 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !Canada ⇒Know Your Rights http://www.ur1.ca/8qhdb !CDNpoli "If we don't assert r rights there's really no point in having rights" !FreeByron | Mar 19 23:04 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: visual laurel .::. Size~: 23.36 KB | Mar 19 23:04 |
| formic_ | apparently they dont know how to get rid of a 5 year old job ad | Mar 19 23:04 |
| DaemonFC | if it ever does happen, it's going to be through the Ubuntu store or something *shudders* | Mar 19 23:04 |
| DaemonFC | the Ubuntu Software Center deserves to be on Coding Horror | Mar 19 23:04 |
| DaemonFC | the thing is a disaster | Mar 19 23:05 |
| formic_ | theres worse | Mar 19 23:05 |
| DaemonFC | it's probably the biggest drag on Ubuntu and they've even managed to wedge it into Xubuntu | Mar 19 23:05 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♺ @ch402 I find it sad how !copyright infringement seems to be a much bigger barrier to the police than Byron's rights. !FreeByron !CDNpoli | Mar 19 23:05 | |
| DaemonFC | which was alright before that happened | Mar 19 23:06 |
| DaemonFC | formic_: The Muon package manager isn't bad | Mar 19 23:06 |
| DaemonFC | they should hire whoever wrote that and make that the official package manager in Ubuntu | Mar 19 23:06 |
| DaemonFC | it manages to do the same job while using about a sixth as much RAM | Mar 19 23:07 |
| DaemonFC | in fact, it's better | Mar 19 23:07 |
| DaemonFC | it can do anything Synaptic could do | Mar 19 23:07 |
| formic_ | I prefer CLI | Mar 19 23:08 |
| formic_ | apt-get, yum, zypper | Mar 19 23:08 |
| DaemonFC | yeah that's alright until you only have a vague idea of what you're looking for | Mar 19 23:09 |
| formic_ | yum search keyword | Mar 19 23:09 |
| formic_ | or if that doesnt turn anything up | Mar 19 23:09 |
| formic_ | !google install znc on fedora with yum | Mar 19 23:10 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Installation - ZNC | http://wiki.znc.in/Installation | Mar 19 23:10 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Patches and RPM Fedora/RedHat EL/CentOS packages for znc | http://home.ircnet.de/cru/znc/el5.i386/ | Mar 19 23:10 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - How do I install a ZNC? - Knowledgebase - HostChaos LTD | https://my.hostchaos.com/knowledgebase.php%3Faction%3Ddisplayarticle%26id%3D26 | Mar 19 23:10 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - How to remove 32/64 bit RPM's from your system - The UNIX and ... | http://www.unix.com/red-hat/160418-how-remove-32-64-bit-rpms-your-system.html | Mar 19 23:10 |
| formic_ | etc | Mar 19 23:10 |
| DaemonFC | I can't believe Debian is packaging Vuze | Mar 19 23:11 |
| formic_ | its free software isn't it | Mar 19 23:11 |
| DaemonFC | the terms of use of the Vuze platform clearly violates the DFSG | Mar 19 23:11 |
| DaemonFC | not all of it | Mar 19 23:11 |
| DaemonFC | pieces of it are | Mar 19 23:11 |
| formic_ | hmm im surprised too | Mar 19 23:11 |
| formic_ | its also java | Mar 19 23:11 |
| DaemonFC | it started out as a bittorrent client under the GPL | Mar 19 23:12 |
| DaemonFC | and then once they had people write the client for them, they stuffed a proprietary layer on top of that and claimed that you needed to agree to a separate agreement for that to use the bittorrent client | Mar 19 23:13 |
| formic_ | yeah and then they became irrelevant | Mar 19 23:13 |
| formic_ | perhaps the company behind vuze is sponsoring its deployment in Debian | Mar 19 23:13 |
| DaemonFC | hmm, looks like they separated the free software client from the proprietary crapware layer | Mar 19 23:18 |
| DaemonFC | ok then | Mar 19 23:18 |
| formic_ | transmission is just better | Mar 19 23:19 |
| DaemonFC | transmission-qt is alright | Mar 19 23:20 |
| DaemonFC | rewriting magnet.protocol so KDE launches that instead of that ridiculous kio magnet is a pain in the ass | Mar 19 23:21 |
| formic_ | seems to work in fedora just by running transmission | Mar 19 23:22 |
| DaemonFC | Mozilla browsers let you pick a file helper | Mar 19 23:22 |
| DaemonFC | so does Opera | Mar 19 23:22 |
| DaemonFC | Chrome is stupid and just uses xdg-open for everythin | Mar 19 23:22 |
| DaemonFC | *everything | Mar 19 23:22 |
| DaemonFC | and so you get whatever xdg-open thinks is the right handler | Mar 19 23:23 |
| DaemonFC | so to fix that for Chromium and all of KDE's applications, I ended up rewriting the magnet protocol file | Mar 19 23:23 |
| formic_ | whats up with magnet anyways | Mar 19 23:23 |
| formic_ | whatever happened to good old .torrent files | Mar 19 23:24 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♺ @ch402 (Mostly complete) notes from today at Byron's Trial: http://www.ur1.ca/8qhib … !FreeByron !CDNpoli !Canada ~Thanks Christopher Olah | Mar 19 23:24 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: ByronTrialNotes/daily-notes/day22.md at master · colah/ByronTrialNotes · GitHub .::. Size~: 48.54 KB | Mar 19 23:24 |
| DaemonFC | [19:23] [CTCP] Sending CTCP-VERSION request to formic_. | Mar 19 23:24 |
| DaemonFC | [19:23] [Away] formic_ is away: Colloquy for iPod touch - http://colloquy.mobi | Mar 19 23:24 |
| formic_ | how many versions did you get back | Mar 19 23:24 |
| DaemonFC | [19:23] [CTCP] Received CTCP-VERSION reply from formic_: Konversation 1.3.1 (C) 2002-2010 by the Konversation team. | Mar 19 23:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Mobile Colloquy: Stay Connected .::. Size~: 5.21 KB | Mar 19 23:24 |
| DaemonFC | FAIL | Mar 19 23:24 |
| formic_ | lol | Mar 19 23:24 |
| formic_ | yeah thats my ipod, I've made no attempt to hide that | Mar 19 23:25 |
| formic_ | it makes a great pentest tool | Mar 19 23:25 |
| formic_ | people think its just a music player or phone | Mar 19 23:25 |
| DaemonFC | Konversation | Mar 19 23:25 |
| DaemonFC | Version 1.4 | Mar 19 23:25 |
| DaemonFC | Using KDE Development Platform 4.8.1 (4.8.1) | Mar 19 23:25 |
| formic_ | meanwhile im metasploiting ur serverz | Mar 19 23:26 |
| DaemonFC | well, iOS is extremely crippled | Mar 19 23:27 |
| DaemonFC | not allowing the user to use arbitrary app stores or install software packages locally is ridiculous | Mar 19 23:27 |
| formic_ | Android is just a crippled Linux | Mar 19 23:27 |
| DaemonFC | it's all about Apple's fascism | Mar 19 23:27 |
| formic_ | I got it jailbroken | Mar 19 23:27 |
| formic_ | no fascism about it | Mar 19 23:27 |
| formic_ | less malware too | Mar 19 23:28 |
| DaemonFC | Android has apps in the marketplace that let you root your device | Mar 19 23:28 |
| DaemonFC | Google doesn't stop you | Mar 19 23:28 |
| formic_ | yeah exactly | Mar 19 23:28 |
| formic_ | they also root your device when you think its a flashlight app | Mar 19 23:28 |
| formic_ | LOL | Mar 19 23:28 |
| DaemonFC | malware on Android is not a problem | Mar 19 23:28 |
| formic_ | it is a problem | Mar 19 23:28 |
| formic_ | I dont use platforms with malware period | Mar 19 23:28 |
| formic_ | no windows, no android | Mar 19 23:28 |
| DaemonFC | there's certain unsavory Windows malware racketeers that would like you to think there's an Android malware problem | Mar 19 23:28 |
| formic_ | I want a meego phone | Mar 19 23:29 |
| formic_ | or a meego device | Mar 19 23:29 |
| DaemonFC | so you'll buy their worthless crapware on Android | Mar 19 23:29 |
| formic_ | there is android malware | Mar 19 23:29 |
| formic_ | listen to smart people who hack those devices, like Kevin Mitnick | Mar 19 23:29 |
| DaemonFC | it's not a serious problem | Mar 19 23:29 |
| formic_ | it is a serious problem | Mar 19 23:29 |
| formic_ | you need to be sure of what you download | Mar 19 23:29 |
| DaemonFC | companies that want you to buy their "protection software" want to make you think there's a problem | Mar 19 23:30 |
| formic_ | android is proof that if linux itself were popular you could get users running malware, and im not a windows shill to say that | Mar 19 23:30 |
| DaemonFC | Symantec can't even protect their own software | Mar 19 23:30 |
| DaemonFC | why should I trust them to protect mine? | Mar 19 23:30 |
| formic_ | I could easily write a linux virus that targetted ubuntu | Mar 19 23:30 |
| DaemonFC | trojan horses aren't viruses | Mar 19 23:30 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] sleep well, @kevie !tzaf | Mar 19 23:30 | |
| DaemonFC | self-propagating malware is really the only malware that you can blame the operating system for | Mar 19 23:31 |
| DaemonFC | there's plenty of that for Windows | Mar 19 23:31 |
| DaemonFC | not so much of it anywhere else | Mar 19 23:31 |
| formic_ | I could give you a usb keyboard that will hack you itself | Mar 19 23:31 |
| formic_ | doesnt matter what OS you run | Mar 19 23:31 |
| formic_ | teensy | Mar 19 23:32 |
| DaemonFC | actually most of those really have a small flash storage device in them that relies on Windows and autorun | Mar 19 23:32 |
| DaemonFC | it's incredibly lame | Mar 19 23:32 |
| formic_ | you can do it with linux too | Mar 19 23:32 |
| DaemonFC | how so? | Mar 19 23:32 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @r7 g+ has the highest wall of all, it is more closed than fb #dontbeevilmyarse | Mar 19 23:32 | |
| formic_ | the teensy is preprogrammed with all the keys it needs to press to hack your machine | Mar 19 23:32 |
| DaemonFC | including my root password? | Mar 19 23:32 |
| formic_ | along with a timer, it could wait for idle, preprogrammed times | Mar 19 23:33 |
| formic_ | sure | Mar 19 23:33 |
| formic_ | it could write a script to fake a root prompt and then store that input and send it out later | Mar 19 23:34 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] 70% of Australians would vote for Assange according to ABC poll | ABC http://t.co/ndlsYqDh #auspol | Mar 19 23:34 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The Drum Polls (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) .::. Size~: 22.43 KB | Mar 19 23:34 |
| formic_ | !google teensy | Mar 19 23:34 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Teensy USB Development Board | http://www.pjrc.com/teensy/ | Mar 19 23:34 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Teensy Board - PJRC Store | http://www.pjrc.com/store/teensy.html | Mar 19 23:34 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Teensy++ Board - PJRC Store | http://pjrc.com/store/teensypp.html | Mar 19 23:34 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Teensy (ATmega32u4 USB dev board) [ATmega32u4] ID: 199 ... | http://www.adafruit.com/products/199 | Mar 19 23:34 |
| formic_ | !google adaptive penetration testing kevin mitnick | Mar 19 23:34 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Kevin Mitnick + Dave Kennedy – Adaptive Penetration Testing ... | http://www.irongeek.com/i.php%3Fpage%3Dvideos/derbycon1/kevin-mitnick-dave-kennedy-adaptive-penetration-testing | Mar 19 23:34 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Kevin Mitnick + Dave Kennedy -- Adaptive Penetration Testing ... | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DbtLiG9K1_EU | Mar 19 23:34 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - SecManiac.com | http://www.secmaniac.com/ | Mar 19 23:34 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Kevin Mitnick + Dave Kennedy -- Adaptive Penetration Testing | https://rstcenter.com/forum/45894-kevin-mitnick-dave-kennedy-adaptive-penetration-testing.rst | Mar 19 23:34 |
| DaemonFC | backdoored modems and routers are far more likely | Mar 19 23:35 |
| formic_ | social engineering is the best tool for hacking, not exploits or password cracking | Mar 19 23:35 |
| gde33 | lol | Mar 19 23:35 |
| DaemonFC | that depends | Mar 19 23:35 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Rogers’ “Cybersecurity” Bill Is Broad Enough to Use Against #WikiLeaks and The Pirate Bay | #EFF http://goo.gl/Dhm8r #usa #policestate | Mar 19 23:35 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Rogers’ “Cybersecurity” Bill Is Broad Enough to Use Against WikiLeaks and The Pirate Bay | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 38.96 KB | Mar 19 23:35 |
| formic_ | just send a super fancy usb keyboard to some IT company and watch how many shells you get | Mar 19 23:36 |
| DaemonFC | if an exploit is easy and grants the attacker administrative access to the machine (Microsoft software has a lot of these), the exploit might be preferable | Mar 19 23:36 |
| DaemonFC | you know, view a web page in IE and get pwned type stuff | Mar 19 23:37 |
| DaemonFC | there's a lot of those | Mar 19 23:37 |
| formic_ | a lot of that stuff has a social engineering aspect to it | Mar 19 23:37 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @pensadorlouco Wasted Loser Villains - A new Pensador Louco !webcomic - http://is.gd/THPnjC - !comics !identiverse !inkscape | Mar 19 23:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @wikileaks2 70% of Australians would vote for Assange according to ABC poll | ABC http://t.co/ndlsYqDh #auspol | Mar 19 23:37 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Vilões Fracassados (Wasted Loser Villains) | Pensador Louco - um site de tiras, quadrinhos e um monte de coisas estranhas .::. Size~: 78.93 KB | Mar 19 23:37 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The Drum Polls (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) .::. Size~: 22.43 KB | Mar 19 23:37 |
| gde33 | best hack is to have people think the coupons you print are real money | Mar 19 23:37 |
| DaemonFC | Flash is probably the single most dangerous application on my computer | Mar 19 23:38 |
| gde33 | then work for the coupons all ur lives | Mar 19 23:38 |
| DaemonFC | I block it except for a few sites | Mar 19 23:38 |
| formic_ | gde33 ++1 | Mar 19 23:38 |
| gde33 | or that war is cool | Mar 19 23:38 |
| DaemonFC | I've printed off coupons from 4chan before | Mar 19 23:39 |
| DaemonFC | Walmarts automated checkout scanner took them | Mar 19 23:39 |
| formic_ | didn't you know gde33 | Mar 19 23:39 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 19 23:39 |
| formic_ | WAR IS COOL!!! | Mar 19 23:39 |
| gde33 | how put in peoples head the idea war is cool? | Mar 19 23:39 |
| DaemonFC | I got some low low prices | Mar 19 23:39 |
| gde33 | killing people is soh awesum! | Mar 19 23:39 |
| gde33 | woo hoo | Mar 19 23:39 |
| formic_ | gde33 - haven't you like, played modern warfare? | Mar 19 23:39 |
| formic_ | or battlefield 3 | Mar 19 23:40 |
| formic_ | war is awesome | Mar 19 23:40 |
| gde33 | yeah, watch you being told how to think | Mar 19 23:40 |
| formic_ | ratta tat tat | Mar 19 23:40 |
| gde33 | haha | Mar 19 23:40 |
| formic_ | lol | Mar 19 23:40 |
| formic_ | i play those games cause i look for messages | Mar 19 23:40 |
| *digitteqnohippie has quit (Read error: Operation timed out) | Mar 19 23:41 | |
| gde33 | it seems like a joke until you observe how the us military has special game halls to recruite babies | Mar 19 23:41 |
| formic_ | yup | Mar 19 23:41 |
| gde33 | where todelers get to shoot their first towl heads | Mar 19 23:41 |
| formic_ | they helped design the first modern warfare game | Mar 19 23:41 |
| gde33 | good job kid! | Mar 19 23:41 |
| gde33 | lol | Mar 19 23:41 |
| formic_ | hey | Mar 19 23:41 |
| DaemonFC | the Ubuntu security team has gotten a lot better in recent releases | Mar 19 23:41 |
| formic_ | towel heads are terror~1 | Mar 19 23:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Asia Times Online :: Sgt Bales' secret and an Afghan endgame http://goo.gl/R2F2q | Mar 19 23:42 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Asia Times Online :: Sgt Bales' secret and an Afghan endgame .::. Size~: 48.08 KB | Mar 19 23:42 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.cwa-union.org/news/entry/number_of_co-sponsors_on_us_call_center_worker_and_consumer_protection_act_#.T2fEiVSVsWM | Mar 19 23:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Number of Co-Sponsors on “US Call Center Worker and Consumer Protection Act” Grows to 69 | Communications Workers of America .::. Size~: 40.85 KB | Mar 19 23:44 |
| DaemonFC | Collins said. "They get the idea that only companies that create American jobs should get American taxpayer dollars." | Mar 19 23:44 |
| DaemonFC | Centrally Planned Economy | Mar 19 23:44 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 19 23:44 |
| DaemonFC | no company should be getting tax dollars | Mar 19 23:45 |
| DaemonFC | they should succeed or fail on their own merit | Mar 19 23:45 |
| DaemonFC | we're giving tax credits to banks and Microsoft | Mar 19 23:45 |
| DaemonFC | as banks throw people out of their homes | Mar 19 23:46 |
| gde33 | mostly militards | Mar 19 23:46 |
| DaemonFC | and Microsoft sends the jobs to India and China | Mar 19 23:46 |
| gde33 | for the militards the us is the gift that keeps on giving | Mar 19 23:46 |
| DaemonFC | but that's just scratching the surface of a broken system | Mar 19 23:46 |
| gde33 | this people are so scared of everyone they will sell their mum, their wife and their baby to buy more weapons | Mar 19 23:46 |
| gde33 | If you give me tax payer money, or any money, I could create jobs for that. | Mar 19 23:47 |
| gde33 | It does | Mar 19 23:47 |
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| gde33 | nt sound like a good idea | Mar 19 23:48 |
| gde33 | I'm not in awe how amazin it is | Mar 19 23:48 |
| DaemonFC | well, you can pay people to dig ditches and fill them back in to hide your unemployment numbers too | Mar 19 23:48 |
| DaemonFC | though few would argue that's a productive use of tax money | Mar 19 23:48 |
| gde33 | sinodemocractic autsterical measure | Mar 19 23:49 |
| gde33 | sinodemocractic autsterical measures | Mar 19 23:49 |
| DaemonFC | talking about "spending cuts" without putting entitlement programs and the military on the table is pointless | Mar 19 23:49 |
| DaemonFC | you're basically saying that 90% of the spending is untouchable right away | Mar 19 23:50 |
| gde33 | I think we can salve overpopulation with ACTA to. | Mar 19 23:50 |
| gde33 | the right to copy | Mar 19 23:50 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Survey: Majority of Australians--across all parties--approve of WikiLeaks releasing US cables (pdf) http://t.co/fXaR4Oi7 #auspol | Mar 19 23:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Julian Assange kandidiert für den australischen Senat | ZDNet http://t.co/yTSrEmYL | Mar 19 23:50 | |
| gde33 | Who do people think they are just copying themselves all over the place? | Mar 19 23:51 |
| DaemonFC | gimmicky spending cuts that only cut about 1-2% of the federal budget or count not spending more next year as a savings are all theater | Mar 19 23:51 |
| gde33 | yeah | Mar 19 23:51 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Julian Assange kandidiert für den australischen Senat | Security | News | ZDNet.de .::. Size~: 66.74 KB | Mar 19 23:51 |
| gde33 | After Theather warfare we now have Theather politics, not that we didn't have that before, it is just that we have nothing else now. | Mar 19 23:52 |
| DaemonFC | http://act.demandprogress.org/sign/backdoor_sopa/?referring_akid=1282.460493.mqU1Jc | Mar 19 23:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Take Action: ISPs Selling Out Customers, Pushing Backdoor SOPA | Demand Progress .::. Size~: 13.05 KB | Mar 19 23:53 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♺ @flyingsquirrel Fantastic turn out for the inaugural Python @watpy learning night @kwartzlab. http://pic.twitter.com/OEbMtJS3 | Mar 19 23:55 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @thinkprogress Tennessee bill may expose identities of women seeking abortions http://t.co/UQFNmmd4 #waronwomen #icymi | Mar 19 23:57 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Tennessee Bill May Expose Identities Of Women Seeking Abortions | ThinkProgress .::. Size~: 34.05 KB | Mar 19 23:57 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Sad that human reproduction is considered dirty, and displaying various bodyparts bad, while destroying personal privacy is acceptable. | Mar 19 23:59 | |
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