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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @rysiek @expatpaul Thanks… I'm in Canada, where our #FPTP electoral system gives majority rule to minority (& mathematically challenged too) | Apr 16 00:00 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Charbax of ARMDevices.net is having a ball in China! http://ur1.ca/90fyi http://j.mp/IOCefV | Apr 16 00:12 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] I have a feeling I will be using this to illustrate my point over and over again: bit.ly/HJB0lf | Apr 16 00:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] #np Aretha Franklin – Respect #oldiebutgoodie | Apr 16 00:22 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] #np Marvin Gaye – Mercy Mercy Me (The Ecology) from What's Going On '71 #oldiebutgoodie | Apr 16 00:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Sergey Brin has a good point about Facebook's walled garden: bit.ly/IDNNd9 however, let's not get carried away in the other direction, too | Apr 16 00:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Chyba żaden mój wpis nie wywołał nigdy takiego shitstorma/flejma na tak wielu platformach. Enjoy. :) http://rys.io/pl/72 | Apr 16 00:30 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Schowaj gadżeta :: RysioBrag .::. Size~: 11.81 KB | Apr 16 00:30 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] #np Aretha Franklin – I Say A Little Prayer For You from Sounds of the Sixties 1968 (disc 1) #oldiebutgoodie An all time favorite! | Apr 16 00:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] #np Etta James – At Last from At Last '60 #oldiebutgoodie | Apr 16 00:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] #np Ray Charles – Drown In My Own Tears from Ray! '56. That's right, 1956! #oldiebutgoodie | Apr 16 00:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Stare ale jakże jare! bit.ly/HETBPc | Apr 16 00:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] In 7 days time US soldier Bradley Manning will have spent 700 days jailed *WITHOUT TRIAL* - legal max is 120 http://t.co/8X4MPNOW #svpol | Apr 16 00:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] #np Judy Boucher - Can't Be With You Tonight '87 #oldiebutgoodie -> One of my ol' man's favorites! | Apr 16 00:52 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Today marks the 578th day of the closed US Grand Jury against WikiLeaks - no lawyers, no reporters, no public #auspol http://t.co/STbTIYKh | Apr 16 00:55 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Today marks the 499th day of the unlawful VISA/MasterCard/Paypal banking blockade against WikiLeaks http://t.co/F2tkiaDj #svpol #auspol | Apr 16 01:00 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Me, @bkuhn and coffee for all http://ur1.ca/90g7l | Apr 16 01:02 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] Any !FreeSoftware activists here not on the !LibrePlanet disucussion list yet? http://redd.it/sb50w !FSF !GNU | Apr 16 01:04 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] The Instagram Architecture Facebook Bought for a Cool Billion Dollars http://goo.gl/2mxW7 #floss | Apr 16 01:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] In 5 days time Julian Assange will have been detained *WITHOUT CHARGE* for 500 days http://t.co/h3BcA4pC #svpol #auspol | Apr 16 01:05 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] Hey @snarf, want to add me as an admin to !activism and i'll make other activisty names point to it too? | Apr 16 01:07 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Today marks the 495th day Julian Assange has had a monitoring device forcibly strapped to his ankle http://t.co/h3BcA4pC #svpol #auspol | Apr 16 01:10 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Poor Nokia. Their stock price is now where it was last in May 1997. | Apr 16 01:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] This week: #WikiLeaks' 500th day of financial blockade, #Assange's 500th day of detainment w/o charge. How to donate: http://t.co/bpKjICJE | Apr 16 01:20 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] WO o technlogii, i to z sensem! Obawy na temat zagrożenia prywatności przez #FB trafiają chyba do mainstreamu: bit.ly/HMhg6b | Apr 16 01:24 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Wow! The Official God #FAQ! Finally, all the answers I need in one convenient place: http://ur1.ca/90gc0 !atheism | Apr 16 01:30 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Assange show will air every 2 hours for 24h starting Tue 12:30pm-London 7:30am-New York 9:30pm-Sydney 4:30pm-Dehli http://t.co/v1PU6UGr | Apr 16 01:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] It just hit me! #FaceBook (#FB) + #Instagram (I) = #FBI | Apr 16 01:32 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Assange: Trailer oficial del 'Mundo del mañana' | RT https://t.co/Nf5JcVbG | Apr 16 01:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @AJEnglish: US scandal and Cuba dominate Americas summit http://t.co/nfOpxWqu | Apr 16 01:55 | |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.afterdawn.com/news/article.cfm/2012/04/14/anonymous_hacker_arrested_after_posting_racy_photo_of_girlfriend | Apr 16 01:58 |
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| DaemonFC | LOL | Apr 16 01:58 |
| DaemonFC | apparently HypePhones put your GPS location data into the EXIF tag of all the images you take with one | Apr 16 02:00 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.afterdawn.com/news/article.cfm/2012/04/16/judge_declines_to_kill_25_petabytes_of_megaupload_data | Apr 16 02:16 |
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| DaemonFC | The US government wants Carpathia to delete the rest of the files from MegaUpload in order to deny them a proper defense | Apr 16 02:16 |
| DaemonFC | which would be to show how many of what kind of files they had, vs. the relatively few that infringe on anyone's copyrights | Apr 16 02:16 |
| DaemonFC | this reminds me of the "weapons of mass destruction" they found in Iraq, and the UN weapons inspector replying that they were so degraded that most Americans had more dangerous chemicals than that under their kitchen sink | Apr 16 02:18 |
| DaemonFC | but you only get to hear the half that the government wants you to hear (at least in mainstream media) | Apr 16 02:18 |
| DaemonFC | Although it's amusing that Iraq even bothered to keep stockpiles of chemical weapons that were so useless when they could have just imported about 100,000 cans of RAID Wasp and Hornet killer and done more damage with that | Apr 16 02:20 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Malware-blocks-booting-1525617.html | Apr 16 02:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Malware blocks booting - The H Security: News and Features .::. Size~: 40.99 KB | Apr 16 02:31 |
| DaemonFC | and all this malware suddenly starts appearing at the exact same time they're trying to justify "Secure Boot" | Apr 16 02:31 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/US-authorities-target-games-consoles-1520754.html | Apr 16 02:32 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: US authorities target games consoles - The H Security: News and Features .::. Size~: 41.13 KB | Apr 16 02:32 |
| DaemonFC | "Simson Garfinkel from the Naval Postgraduate School (NPS), who oversees the project, told Foreign Policy magazine that the project does not wish to work with data that relates to US citizens" | Apr 16 02:32 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, don't pick on someone that can sue you. | Apr 16 02:33 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Apr 16 02:33 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Facebook-SDK-hole-leaves-accounts-vulnerable-1519859.html | Apr 16 02:34 |
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| DFS | Is Roy Schestowitz here now? | Apr 16 02:54 |
| DFS | If Roy is here, you need to explain why you have a hardon in your pants while you're hugging a prepubescent boy ... | Apr 16 02:55 |
| DFS | http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/1999.png | Apr 16 02:55 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] I may actually write something for it, why not. ♻ @mlinksva: Deadline for bit.ly/GORp9y extended to 20120430. !cc #FutureOfCopyright | Apr 16 03:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] RT @appropedia Liberating America's secret, for-pay laws http://ur1.ca/8qmll !publicdomain | Apr 16 03:09 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fsmag/@fsmag] Lib-Ray Video Standard: Using Google/On2's VP8 Video Codec: http://fsmsh.com/3744 | Apr 16 03:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Why the heck FoxyProxy causes Cookie Monster to forget the "Block cookies" setting between sessions is beyond me !firefox !mozilla !fs | Apr 16 03:32 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Morning! Rise and grind! | Apr 16 03:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Splendid week ahead! | Apr 16 03:47 | |
| scientes | http://video.linux.com/videos/lets-kill-all-proprietary-drivers-for-good | Apr 16 03:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Let's Kill All Proprietary Drivers For Good | The Linux Foundation Video Site .::. Size~: 35.1 KB | Apr 16 03:48 |
| *DaemonFC giggles that freenode has a server called "moorcock" | Apr 16 03:52 | |
| DaemonFC | scientes, Their Catalyst driver can be rock solid or it can cause crashes and data loss and all kinds of hell | Apr 16 03:53 |
| DaemonFC | they only officially support it on certain versions of certain distributions | Apr 16 03:54 |
| scientes | just use radeon with a current kernel | Apr 16 03:54 |
| DaemonFC | they basically ignore bug reports coming from users of other distributions | Apr 16 03:54 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Splendid week ahead y'all! | Apr 16 03:55 | |
| scientes | DaemonFC, why do you expect your problems with propritary software to be adressed? | Apr 16 03:57 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] #nw Suicide Girls | Apr 16 03:57 | |
| DaemonFC | scientes, They only officially support released versions of RHEL, SUSE, and Ubuntu with the default Unity desktop | Apr 16 03:57 |
| DaemonFC | reporting issues in other variants of Ubuntu will get you ignored | Apr 16 03:57 |
| DaemonFC | reporting issues in desktops that are not officially supported on a released version of RHEL or SUSE will get you ignored | Apr 16 03:58 |
| DaemonFC | so basically they'll accept bug reports for things that happen under GNOME or KDE on RHEL and SUSE | Apr 16 03:58 |
| DaemonFC | but they wouldn't accept bug reports from you if you installed the EPEL packages for XFCE on RHEL | Apr 16 03:58 |
| DaemonFC | another fun fact is that if you use CentOS or Scientific Linux or even Oracle, you have to lie and tell them it is RHEL | Apr 16 03:59 |
| scientes | why dont you just use radeon driver? | Apr 16 03:59 |
| scientes | it isn't that bad | Apr 16 03:59 |
| DaemonFC | or they will also ignore your reports from there | Apr 16 03:59 |
| DaemonFC | they only want to support a few well known configurations | Apr 16 04:00 |
| DaemonFC | any variation from the version from the tested version of anything that interacts with the GPU could expose a bug in their driver, and they won't support that | Apr 16 04:01 |
| DaemonFC | it gets better though | Apr 16 04:01 |
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| DaemonFC | even if you're using a supported configuration, and run an application that exposes a bug in their driver, they probably won't care | Apr 16 04:01 |
| DaemonFC | they only certify certain applications (like CAD programs) running on supported configurations, and only in specified versions of Catalyst, and those applications are only supported if you're using a FirePro card | Apr 16 04:02 |
| DaemonFC | so even applications they've certified are not "certified" if you're using a Radeon card | Apr 16 04:02 |
| DaemonFC | it's a way to sell their more expensive cards even if you don't need one | Apr 16 04:02 |
| DaemonFC | there's almost no difference between a recent RadeonHD and the corresponding FirePro model other than the FirePro model costs more and they'll only support and certify applications if you can prove the bug happens on a FirePro card | Apr 16 04:04 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Apr 16 04:04 |
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| DaemonFC | they play around with "certification" and "support" to upsell the customer to things they might not even really need | Apr 16 04:05 |
| DaemonFC | but it's not different than what software companies do to people | Apr 16 04:05 |
| DaemonFC | scientes, I think there are some practical arguments for deploying Catalyst instead of radeon | Apr 16 04:07 |
| DaemonFC | even though it comes with its own set of problems | Apr 16 04:07 |
| DaemonFC | there's really no good way to upgrade your graphics drivers with the open source route except as part of an overall distribution upgrade | Apr 16 04:07 |
| DaemonFC | so if something lands right after your distribution has declared that version is "frozen", then you need to wait 6 months before you can use it unless you want to go through installing unsupported packages or building your own kernel | Apr 16 04:08 |
| DaemonFC | and you don't want that on, say, an Ubuntu LTS or a RHEL because there goes your support and the stable ABI and all kinds of stuff | Apr 16 04:09 |
| DaemonFC | Installing Catalyst won't invalidate your support contract with Canonical or Red Hat, but installing your own kernel or your own Mesa packages will | Apr 16 04:10 |
| DaemonFC | it's not a question of which one is buggier or which one is free software and which is proprietary | Apr 16 04:11 |
| DaemonFC | it's a question of "Is your system in a defined state?" | Apr 16 04:11 |
| DaemonFC | if you've replaced the kernel, it's obviously not in a state that they have tested or are willing to support | Apr 16 04:12 |
| DaemonFC | and although it is extremely rare that a user space application will fail because you replaced the kernel with a different version, it isn't unheard of | Apr 16 04:12 |
| prurigro | DaemonFC, the only time I've ever had it happen to me was only a couple of months ago | Apr 16 04:21 |
| prurigro | and it involved the nvidia proprietary driver :) | Apr 16 04:21 |
| DaemonFC | Catalyst used to be untouchable | Apr 16 04:22 |
| DaemonFC | it wasn't just buggy, it had serious 2d and composite performance issues | Apr 16 04:22 |
| prurigro | I've avoided ATI since my trusty old rage128 for pretty much explicitly stories like that | Apr 16 04:23 |
| scientes | radeon driver works | Apr 16 04:23 |
| scientes | as of linux 3.2 | Apr 16 04:23 |
| scientes | you should use ati with radeon FOSS driver, or nvidia with non-free driver | Apr 16 04:24 |
| prurigro | nvidia is actually better with the free driver in my experience | Apr 16 04:24 |
| prurigro | slight tearing in video playback with a lot of motion, and maybe 5 less fps in games | Apr 16 04:24 |
| scientes | well, not for my nvidia chip | Apr 16 04:24 |
| prurigro | but 100% more stable, KMS, snappier response to gui elements | Apr 16 04:25 |
| scientes | but i do have problems with propritary, and am easer to see a capable nouveau driver | Apr 16 04:25 |
| prurigro | I'm guessing your chipset is a bit newer than mine? | Apr 16 04:25 |
| scientes | no, its a nv40 | Apr 16 04:25 |
| scientes | which is kinda old | Apr 16 04:25 |
| prurigro | mines a GF8600GT | Apr 16 04:25 |
| scientes | nouveau ppl said its being rewritten a few weeks ago | Apr 16 04:25 |
| scientes | maybe thats nv30 | Apr 16 04:25 |
| prurigro | yea, they pushed a HUGE dump the other day apparently | Apr 16 04:26 |
| DaemonFC | I had to use Flash to view that video | Apr 16 04:26 |
| prurigro | oh yea, flash hasn't locked up X or killed firefox once since switching to nouveau | Apr 16 04:26 |
| prurigro | before firefox crashes were a weekly occurrence, and I had maybe 1-2 X locks over the course of a number of years because of it | Apr 16 04:27 |
| DaemonFC | Flash only uses hardware acceleration with proprietary drivers | Apr 16 04:27 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Kernel prepatch 3.4-rc3 http://ur1.ca/90h62 | Apr 16 04:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] oday was a great day as it was sunny, too. I left the house at 10 AM for a run around Salford and then sat down to type http://ur1.ca/90h9s | Apr 16 04:27 | |
| DaemonFC | they removed the override bit you could set to force it to use the capabilities of the open source drivers | Apr 16 04:27 |
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| prurigro | oh yea? that'd explain it, though it still plays 1080p video like nothing, which I could never get at a decent speed before anyone had hw accel | Apr 16 04:27 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, notice they want to "minimize the use of the GPL" in the open source Linux drivers now | Apr 16 04:28 |
| prurigro | you sure there aren't like two levels of acceleration? | Apr 16 04:28 |
| DaemonFC | they prefer the BSD license | Apr 16 04:28 |
| prurigro | who dis? | Apr 16 04:28 |
| DaemonFC | they said "localize the use of GPL" | Apr 16 04:28 |
| DaemonFC | but they mean minimize it | Apr 16 04:28 |
| DaemonFC | or use BSD-licensed code and wrap it in the GPL as part of Linux | Apr 16 04:28 |
| prurigro | and what are your thoughts on that? | Apr 16 04:29 |
| DaemonFC | they're going that route because companies want to use the BSD license and not the GPL | Apr 16 04:29 |
| prurigro | BSD is certainly more convenient for companies | Apr 16 04:29 |
| DaemonFC | it's obvious why they want that | Apr 16 04:29 |
| DaemonFC | they'd have a hard time porting the driver to Windows if it was under the GPL | Apr 16 04:29 |
| prurigro | to me, open standards and things you want spreading across all use cases should be BSD | Apr 16 04:29 |
| DaemonFC | they want code contributions without any restrictions on how they can use it | Apr 16 04:30 |
| DaemonFC | but you only get it under the GPL | Apr 16 04:30 |
| prurigro | the complimentary set makes sense to be GPL | Apr 16 04:30 |
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| DaemonFC | prurigro, At least if the user does need proprietary drivers now, it's very likely to only be for the GPU | Apr 16 04:41 |
| DaemonFC | 5-6 years ago there could have been several | Apr 16 04:41 |
| DaemonFC | for networking cards and sound chipsets and so on | Apr 16 04:41 |
| DaemonFC | obviously the more of them you have, the less stable your system becomes | Apr 16 04:42 |
| prurigro | ahh true eh-- I remember for a while there, I was maintaining git networking sources for archlinux because the only solution for most broadcom chipsets aside from dev code was pretty well ndiswrapper | Apr 16 04:43 |
| DaemonFC | Windows driver running in a Linux kernel | Apr 16 04:44 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Just about caught up with my Magic City before I got the day started. Brilliant seriously. Liking it already. | Apr 16 04:44 | |
| DaemonFC | and the entire argument over whether ndiswrapper was a GPL violation | Apr 16 04:44 |
| DaemonFC | since it claimed to be a GPL-licensed module that only served to bridge proprietary Windows drivers into the kernel | Apr 16 04:44 |
| DaemonFC | Linus Torvalds commented that he believed ndiswrapper was a GPL violation and that it shouldn't have had access to any GPL-only kernel interfaces | Apr 16 04:45 |
| DaemonFC | FGLRX and Nvidia kernel modules don't need access to any GPL-only kernel interfaces | Apr 16 04:46 |
| DaemonFC | because they shove everything out into user space and let their driver run the GPU from there | Apr 16 04:46 |
| prurigro | hmm- that kinda reminds me of Genode, have you heard of it? | Apr 16 04:47 |
| DaemonFC | the Linux kernel is more of a GPL 2 with exceptions | Apr 16 04:47 |
| prurigro | http://genode.org/ | Apr 16 04:48 |
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| DaemonFC | they don't consider a module to be a derivative work of the kernel unless you start touching things that are marked GPL Only | Apr 16 04:48 |
| prurigro | I think things should be allowed to talk to eachother on an API level | Apr 16 04:48 |
| DaemonFC | and some companies have gone and done that anyway and lied about what license they were really under | Apr 16 04:48 |
| DaemonFC | Linuxant was caught doing this | Apr 16 04:49 |
| prurigro | and if the GPL'd part of the nvidia driver is providing that API layer, then I think that's pretty roundabout of them, but I can't really argue fariness | Apr 16 04:49 |
| DaemonFC | they used a null terminator to get the kernel to not mark itself as tainted and to give it GPL-only symbols they were not entitled to use | Apr 16 04:49 |
| DaemonFC | none of Nvidia or FGLRX are GPL-licensed | Apr 16 04:50 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] What ideas do you have for !DirectAction techniques to further !FreeSoftware and free culture? http://redd.it/sbum1 !FSF !GNU !LibrePlanet | Apr 16 04:50 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: What ideas do you have for direct action techniques to further free software and free culture? via reddit.com .::. Size~: 1.7 KB | Apr 16 04:50 |
| DaemonFC | the "open source" parts are BSD and MIT licensed | Apr 16 04:50 |
| DaemonFC | and they are totally useless on their own | Apr 16 04:51 |
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| DaemonFC | https://lwn.net/Articles/82305/ | Apr 16 04:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Being honest with MODULE_LICENSE [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 28.95 KB | Apr 16 04:51 |
| prurigro | what a strange hack | Apr 16 04:51 |
| DaemonFC | https://lwn.net/Articles/82306/ | Apr 16 04:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: [PATCH] Blacklist binary-only modules lying about their license [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 7.19 KB | Apr 16 04:52 |
| prurigro | nothing to do with producing working functionality, but a hack to satiate lawyers | Apr 16 04:52 |
| DaemonFC | " Btw, the "GPL" directory they | Apr 16 04:52 |
| DaemonFC | are speaking about is empty." | Apr 16 04:52 |
| DaemonFC | LOL | Apr 16 04:52 |
| prurigro | lol, that's pretty clear then | Apr 16 04:54 |
| DaemonFC | https://lwn.net/Articles/82313/ | Apr 16 04:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Re: [PATCH] Blacklist binary-only modules lying about their license [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 6.34 KB | Apr 16 04:54 |
| prurigro | did they get away with it, do you know? | Apr 16 04:54 |
| DaemonFC | https://lwn.net/Articles/82313/ | Apr 16 04:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Re: [PATCH] Blacklist binary-only modules lying about their license [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 6.34 KB | Apr 16 04:56 |
| DaemonFC | This describes what Nvidia and Catalyst do | Apr 16 04:56 |
| DaemonFC | although it's talking about Java | Apr 16 04:56 |
| DaemonFC | oops | Apr 16 04:56 |
| DaemonFC | https://lwn.net/Articles/184879/ | Apr 16 04:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Tainting from user space [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 24.15 KB | Apr 16 04:56 |
| DaemonFC | that | Apr 16 04:56 |
| prurigro | oh interesting | Apr 16 04:59 |
| prurigro | isn't java GPL tho? | Apr 16 04:59 |
| prurigro | or is it another license? | Apr 16 05:00 |
| DaemonFC | tainted doesn't only mean legally tainted | Apr 16 05:01 |
| DaemonFC | you can get a tainted kernel for a number of reasons that just mean that kernel developers shouldn't trust your bug reports | Apr 16 05:01 |
| DaemonFC | http://repo.or.cz/w/linux-2.6.git/blob/HEAD:/Documentation/oops-tracing.txt#l222 | Apr 16 05:02 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Public Git Hosting - linux-2.6.git/blob - Documentation/oops-tracing.txt .::. Size~: 67.79 KB | Apr 16 05:02 |
| DaemonFC | prurigro, Most people using Ubuntu 12.04 on an old Athlon XP processor will get a kernel taint | Apr 16 05:03 |
| DaemonFC | most of them would on earlier releases and other distributions because pretty much all of them use an SMP-capable kernel | Apr 16 05:04 |
| DaemonFC | but now, Ubuntu is also using a PAE kernel as their only 32-bit x86 kernel, and iirc, some Athlon XPs don't like that | Apr 16 05:05 |
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| prurigro | hmm, I was trying to help someone who recently upgraded their ubuntu intallation | Apr 16 05:08 |
| prurigro | and I asked them to do an md5sum on a file they had, but it came up with a 'not found' error, which was strange, because ls saw it fine | Apr 16 05:08 |
| prurigro | and then he ran 'mv file /another/location' | Apr 16 05:08 |
| prurigro | and instead of moving, the file literally disappeared | Apr 16 05:09 |
| prurigro | apparently this was his 6th reinstall after upgrading, and so far the most stable... | Apr 16 05:09 |
| prurigro | possible the new kernel is to blame? | Apr 16 05:09 |
| formic_ | [23:59] <prurigro> isn't java GPL tho? | Apr 16 05:10 |
| formic_ | openjdk is I think | Apr 16 05:10 |
| scientes | yes | Apr 16 05:11 |
| formic_ | java doesnt excite me though | Apr 16 05:11 |
| formic_ | go does | Apr 16 05:11 |
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| prurigro | yea, java is only interesting in a binary-based world | Apr 16 05:12 |
| formic_ | go is insane | Apr 16 05:12 |
| prurigro | if you have source, you can compile between OS' and archs anyway | Apr 16 05:12 |
| prurigro | and go seems like its gonna be pretty similar between platforms | Apr 16 05:12 |
| formic_ | yeah it should be | Apr 16 05:12 |
| formic_ | in the same way that C is | Apr 16 05:13 |
| prurigro | C isn't quite that independent though | Apr 16 05:13 |
| prurigro | Microsoft's Visual Studio implementation ends up looking quite different than gcc expects things to look | Apr 16 05:13 |
| formic_ | visual studio doesn't do C | Apr 16 05:14 |
| prurigro | not to mention filesystem access layers and whatnot that are completely different | Apr 16 05:14 |
| scientes | ^ | Apr 16 05:14 |
| prurigro | visual studio does do C | Apr 16 05:14 |
| formic_ | nope | Apr 16 05:14 |
| prurigro | I programmed in C with it | Apr 16 05:14 |
| formic_ | it does C++ | Apr 16 05:14 |
| scientes | well POSIX is its own thing | Apr 16 05:14 |
| prurigro | for the government, not a year and a half ago | Apr 16 05:14 |
| formic_ | how old was it | Apr 16 05:14 |
| prurigro | prolly 2008 | Apr 16 05:14 |
| formic_ | visual studio .net + has no C | Apr 16 05:14 |
| formic_ | its C++ | Apr 16 05:14 |
| formic_ | which would work anyway | Apr 16 05:14 |
| prurigro | they removed C? why would they do that? | Apr 16 05:14 |
| scientes | well, C++ is C | Apr 16 05:15 |
| prurigro | we're talking about visual studio ultimate right? | Apr 16 05:15 |
| formic_ | they haven't used C in a decade | Apr 16 05:15 |
| scientes | its just slow C | Apr 16 05:15 |
| formic_ | ms has been pushing .net | Apr 16 05:15 |
| prurigro | scientes, don't say that when MinceR's around ;) | Apr 16 05:15 |
| formic_ | which is C#/vb.net and c++ | Apr 16 05:15 |
| scientes | prurigro, but isn't it true? | Apr 16 05:15 |
| scientes | C++ is a strict superset of C | Apr 16 05:15 |
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| prurigro | scientes, I was attempting to explain that to Mincer, but lacked that beautiful vocabulary you just used there :) | Apr 16 05:16 |
| prurigro | oiaohm agrees too, and a number of professors from university | Apr 16 05:16 |
| prurigro | but I've never done benchmarks personally | Apr 16 05:17 |
| formic_ | msft includes something called "Visual C++" in visual studio | Apr 16 05:17 |
| formic_ | no seperate "Visual C" | Apr 16 05:17 |
| prurigro | I was definitely using one of M$'s horrendous 'visual' platforms | Apr 16 05:17 |
| formic_ | 2010 has partial C++11 support | Apr 16 05:17 |
| prurigro | I'd originally coded it in C in linux though, and then ported | Apr 16 05:17 |
| formic_ | fun | Apr 16 05:18 |
| formic_ | lol! | Apr 16 05:18 |
| prurigro | http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb384838.aspx | Apr 16 05:18 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Walkthrough: Compiling a C Program .::. Size~: 61.83 KB | Apr 16 05:18 |
| prurigro | 2010 seems to have it in some form | Apr 16 05:18 |
| formic_ | "You must understand the fundamentals of the C++ language." | Apr 16 05:18 |
| formic_ | LOL | Apr 16 05:18 |
| prurigro | lol | Apr 16 05:19 |
| formic_ | Microsoft (R) 32-bit C/C++ Optimizing Compiler Version 16.00 for 80x86 | Apr 16 05:19 |
| prurigro | looks like they have what gcc is moving towards | Apr 16 05:19 |
| prurigro | a common platform for both | Apr 16 05:19 |
| formic_ | in theory, a c++ compiler should compile c code | Apr 16 05:19 |
| prurigro | yea, and in theory, the performance hit shouldn't be much heavier than its 'strict' coding style would cause | Apr 16 05:20 |
| formic_ | youtube C tutorials use something on windows called dev c++ | Apr 16 05:20 |
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| scientes | Visual Basic | Apr 16 05:21 |
| *scientes grins | Apr 16 05:21 | |
| scientes | but seriously why not just use mingw? | Apr 16 05:21 |
| scientes | brb | Apr 16 05:21 |
| formic_ | dev c++ uses mingw | Apr 16 05:21 |
| formic_ | LOL | Apr 16 05:22 |
| formic_ | Source code : Delphi 6 Source code of Dev-C++ is available for free under the GNU General Public License (GPL) | Apr 16 05:22 |
| DaemonFC | prurigro, I got a response from Red Hat Legal regarding Clementine | Apr 16 05:22 |
| prurigro | oh? | Apr 16 05:22 |
| formic_ | hahaha | Apr 16 05:22 |
| formic_ | a C++ compiler IDE written in Delphi | Apr 16 05:22 |
| formic_ | thats nuts | Apr 16 05:22 |
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| DaemonFC | After thorough review, we've concluded this is all in keeping with the | Apr 16 05:22 |
| DaemonFC | Fedora guidelines: | Apr 16 05:22 |
| DaemonFC | * The trademark use is in compliance with Spotify's terms of use for | Apr 16 05:22 |
| DaemonFC | third-party applications. | Apr 16 05:22 |
| DaemonFC | * The Clementine app as packaged in Fedora is not shipping the spotify | Apr 16 05:22 |
| DaemonFC | proprietary blob, leaving it up to the user to decide whether they wish | Apr 16 05:22 |
| DaemonFC | to download it. | Apr 16 05:22 |
| DaemonFC | ~tom | Apr 16 05:22 |
| DaemonFC | == | Apr 16 05:22 |
| DaemonFC | Fedora Project | Apr 16 05:23 |
| prurigro | DaemonFC, errr-- doesn't clementine come with the module, and autoload it? | Apr 16 05:23 |
| prurigro | I mean, that was the whole issue | Apr 16 05:23 |
| DaemonFC | so apparently Fedora is OK with including free software that acts as a catapult to get nonfree blobs onto your system | Apr 16 05:23 |
| DaemonFC | yuck | Apr 16 05:23 |
| formic_ | lol.... | Apr 16 05:23 |
| DaemonFC | no, it offers to download and install it the first time you attempt to use Spotify | Apr 16 05:24 |
| prurigro | spotify.so would have been fine | Apr 16 05:24 |
| prurigro | sudo rm spotify.so | Apr 16 05:24 |
| prurigro | done | Apr 16 05:24 |
| DaemonFC | it doesn't technically include it | Apr 16 05:24 |
| prurigro | but its actually cooked into the app as far as I can tell | Apr 16 05:24 |
| prurigro | no? | Apr 16 05:24 |
| formic_ | we can't be letting people use spotify | Apr 16 05:24 |
| formic_ | its evil | Apr 16 05:24 |
| DaemonFC | but it might as well, since it doesn't attempt to educate the user that installing it will result in nonfree software on their system | Apr 16 05:24 |
| prurigro | I don't like having options for things I can't or don't use activated | Apr 16 05:25 |
| prurigro | they... bother me :) | Apr 16 05:25 |
| formic_ | daemonfc - cause a distro should act as a liason for the FSF | Apr 16 05:25 |
| formic_ | I don't want my software 'educating' me | Apr 16 05:25 |
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| prurigro | well to be fair, Fedora kinda toutes the fsf horn itself from what I've seen | Apr 16 05:26 |
| formic_ | sounds rather fascist to me | Apr 16 05:26 |
| DaemonFC | no, if it was the FSF they would either not package it | Apr 16 05:26 |
| DaemonFC | or patch it to remove the Spotify advertisement | Apr 16 05:26 |
| formic_ | "we hate proprietary blobs, and so should you! if you dont, you're anti social" | Apr 16 05:26 |
| prurigro | formic_, how about "if you want the blob, download and drop it in your modules directory" | Apr 16 05:27 |
| prurigro | atm it feels like clementine is trying to sell me stuff | Apr 16 05:27 |
| formic_ | lol! | Apr 16 05:27 |
| formic_ | what is it selling? | Apr 16 05:27 |
| prurigro | I subscribe to one of the services it offers, and its buried between 8 others | Apr 16 05:27 |
| prurigro | subscriptions to various services | Apr 16 05:27 |
| formic_ | might want to set your processor on fire | Apr 16 05:27 |
| formic_ | proprietary cpu firmware | Apr 16 05:28 |
| prurigro | I have no idea if they're making money, but I'd rather only have the services I actually subscribe to visible | Apr 16 05:28 |
| prurigro | it has nothing to do with that | Apr 16 05:28 |
| prurigro | again, I pay for one of these services :) | Apr 16 05:28 |
| prurigro | but I dislike having to dig through other services I don't pay for, taking up space in ram, in order to access the one I do | Apr 16 05:28 |
| formic_ | yeah but at the same time, i'd be largely annoyed at having people patch software so it harasses me about my anti social nature when I use something non free | Apr 16 05:29 |
| prurigro | I'd rather it be patched so all of these options are .so objects in a modules folder | Apr 16 05:29 |
| prurigro | at that point I can pick and choose, and hopefully by running through a layer like that, it would stop violating GPL stuff too | Apr 16 05:30 |
| formic_ | go to play an mp3 file "oh no buddy, those are non free, are you sure you want to be anti social?" | Apr 16 05:30 |
| prurigro | actually, in canada they're completely free :) | Apr 16 05:30 |
| formic_ | I know :) | Apr 16 05:30 |
| formic_ | doesnt stop some european or american from patching it though | Apr 16 05:30 |
| prurigro | http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2jf2e87RV1qewacoo1_500.jpg | Apr 16 05:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting image/jpeg type | Apr 16 05:30 |
| DaemonFC | http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2012/04/porn-actor-dead-after-clash-with-lapd-officers.html | Apr 16 05:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Porn actor dead after clash with LAPD officers - latimes.com .::. Size~: 95.34 KB | Apr 16 05:31 |
| DaemonFC | LARD strikes again | Apr 16 05:31 |
| prurigro | dear god tha... that guy's face is... | Apr 16 05:32 |
| prurigro | creepy | Apr 16 05:32 |
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| formic_ | I just don't want my software to be political and try to push a viewpoint | Apr 16 05:32 |
| formic_ | imo, that's advertising too | Apr 16 05:33 |
| prurigro | It'd be pretty hard not to involve politics somewhere along the way, but when there's a fair solution that makes everyone happy unless the developers are getting royalties per copy with spotify support included or something | Apr 16 05:33 |
| prurigro | why not go with that? | Apr 16 05:33 |
| formic_ | prurigro - your solution makes sense | Apr 16 05:33 |
| formic_ | I just don't think the software should try to steer you away if its something you are trying to do | Apr 16 05:34 |
| scientes | meh, just ship mp3 | Apr 16 05:34 |
| scientes | but dont ship h264 | Apr 16 05:34 |
| DaemonFC | http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/entertainmentnewsbuzz/2012/04/redbox-does-better-than-expected-in-first-quarter.html | Apr 16 05:34 |
| formic_ | im not converting mp3 to ogg just to get my music player to stop lecturing me | Apr 16 05:34 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Redbox does better than expected in first quarter - latimes.com .::. Size~: 102.98 KB | Apr 16 05:34 |
| DaemonFC | I use these when they send out a free rental code | Apr 16 05:35 |
| DaemonFC | happens anywhere from 1-3 times a month | Apr 16 05:35 |
| scientes | ogg is a better format, but converting your files is idiotic | Apr 16 05:35 |
| formic_ | if the h264 support is free software, i dont care if its shipped | Apr 16 05:35 |
| scientes | use WebM for new files | Apr 16 05:35 |
| formic_ | video yeah | Apr 16 05:35 |
| scientes | and ogg/vorbis for audio (WebM uses vorbis) | Apr 16 05:36 |
| formic_ | I use alac for audio | Apr 16 05:36 |
| scientes | or FLAC | Apr 16 05:36 |
| formic_ | flac is good too | Apr 16 05:36 |
| scientes | vorbis is good for lossy | Apr 16 05:36 |
| scientes | use vorbis if you want to be compatible | Apr 16 05:36 |
| formic_ | nah flac is more compatible than ogg | Apr 16 05:36 |
| formic_ | ogg is crap these days, I got terabytes of space | Apr 16 05:37 |
| formic_ | 100-150mb a cd isn't scary at all | Apr 16 05:38 |
| prurigro | formic_, more options and the freedom to choose those options however you want | Apr 16 05:39 |
| prurigro | how about webp? | Apr 16 05:39 |
| prurigro | anyone know how that's shaping up? | Apr 16 05:39 |
| formic_ | webp solves a problem that doesn't really exist | Apr 16 05:39 |
| formic_ | png is fine | Apr 16 05:39 |
| DaemonFC | FLAC is still too large for a lot of portable players | Apr 16 05:39 |
| formic_ | daemonfc - cheapos | Apr 16 05:40 |
| DaemonFC | I use Ogg just to avoid having to keep two copies of my music library | Apr 16 05:40 |
| DaemonFC | not really | Apr 16 05:40 |
| formic_ | yeah really | Apr 16 05:40 |
| formic_ | who doesnt have at least 8gb | Apr 16 05:40 |
| DaemonFC | going from hard drive to flash memory on portables was terrible | Apr 16 05:40 |
| prurigro | formic_, png and webp of roughly the same quality | Apr 16 05:40 |
| DaemonFC | you were seeing them with 200 GB of space or more 5 years ago | Apr 16 05:40 |
| formic_ | on c heap hardware | Apr 16 05:40 |
| DaemonFC | now they're like 8-16 tops | Apr 16 05:40 |
| prurigro | png: 172kb, webp: 8kb | Apr 16 05:41 |
| scientes | meh, i dont give a shit about lossy unless its MY recordings | Apr 16 05:41 |
| formic_ | [00:40] <prurigro> formic_, png and webp of roughly the same quality | Apr 16 05:41 |
| formic_ | png is lossless | Apr 16 05:41 |
| prurigro | is it? | Apr 16 05:41 |
| formic_ | yes | Apr 16 05:41 |
| scientes | prurigro, yep | Apr 16 05:41 |
| scientes | WebP blows | Apr 16 05:41 |
| prurigro | ahh I wasn't aware | Apr 16 05:41 |
| prurigro | no wonder I like png so much :) | Apr 16 05:41 |
| formic_ | :) | Apr 16 05:41 |
| DaemonFC | 200-250 GB was a vast amount of space and I'm convinced the only reason they switched to flash memory instead was to make it more difficult to manage your music library | Apr 16 05:42 |
| scientes | prurigro, http://muizelaar.blogspot.com/2011/04/webp.html | Apr 16 05:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Jeff Muizelaar: WebP .::. Size~: 105.02 KB | Apr 16 05:42 |
| prurigro | seems like webp 'can' be lossless, though I'm not sure if their converter tool is preset for that | Apr 16 05:42 |
| scientes | WebP blows | Apr 16 05:42 |
| scientes | just use png or jpeg | Apr 16 05:42 |
| formic_ | [00:41] <DaemonFC> 200-250 GB was a vast amount of space and I'm convinced the only reason they switched to flash memory instead was to make it more difficult to manage your music library | Apr 16 05:42 |
| prurigro | https://developers.google.com/speed/webp/docs/webp_lossless_alpha_study | Apr 16 05:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Lossless and Transparency Encoding in WebP - WebP — Google Developers .::. Size~: 41.85 KB | Apr 16 05:42 |
| formic_ | irrational | Apr 16 05:42 |
| DaemonFC | the last thing the MAFIAA wants is virtually unlimited storage that's reasonably portable and makes it easy to give all your music to a friend | Apr 16 05:42 |
| formic_ | the large hard drive based players died more easily | Apr 16 05:42 |
| prurigro | so its either lossless, or supports transparency? | Apr 16 05:42 |
| formic_ | having a 2.5 inch laptop drive in a music player was stupid | Apr 16 05:42 |
| prurigro | https://developers.google.com/speed/webp/gallery2 | Apr 16 05:43 |
| scientes | prurigro, lossless WebP is experimental | Apr 16 05:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Lossless and Alpha Gallery - WebP — Google Developers .::. Size~: 42.29 KB | Apr 16 05:43 |
| DaemonFC | I think Ogg Vorbis beyond q6 is usually overkill | Apr 16 05:43 |
| prurigro | funny, their webp examples are all png | Apr 16 05:43 |
| formic_ | yeah, lets have moving parts in a portable device | Apr 16 05:43 |
| formic_ | see how long it lasts | Apr 16 05:43 |
| scientes | and yeah the format really has nothing that good, besides moving to a more modern compression than ol jpeg | Apr 16 05:43 |
| prurigro | been there, done that | Apr 16 05:43 |
| scientes | <prurigro> funny, their webp examples are all png | Apr 16 05:43 |
| prurigro | (for portable devices with moving parts) | Apr 16 05:43 |
| scientes | precisely | Apr 16 05:43 |
| formic_ | "but the user can replace the 2.5 inch laptop drive when it predictably dies" | Apr 16 05:43 |
| scientes | the format blows | Apr 16 05:43 |
| prurigro | I guess time will tell if they can make it shape up, but yea, I'm not gonna touch it until its a clear winner | Apr 16 05:44 |
| prurigro | everything already supports png | Apr 16 05:44 |
| scientes | png or jpeg | Apr 16 05:44 |
| scientes | jpeg for lossy, png otherwise | Apr 16 05:44 |
| formic_ | my only lossy image files were originally jpeg | Apr 16 05:44 |
| formic_ | cameras | Apr 16 05:44 |
| scientes | prurigro, yeah i was basically in ur position before actually researching WebP | Apr 16 05:44 |
| prurigro | until webp is half the size and lossless, and supported by everything, perhaps | Apr 16 05:44 |
| scientes | and finding out it sucks | Apr 16 05:45 |
| DaemonFC | I think even 99 cents a track for something that costs them nothing to copy is an outrage | Apr 16 05:45 |
| DaemonFC | then they decided to up it to $1.29 per track in most places | Apr 16 05:45 |
| prurigro | does it suck at its basis? or does it simply suck now ,but could possibly be better later? | Apr 16 05:45 |
| formic_ | daemonfc - it doesnt cost them nothing to produce | Apr 16 05:45 |
| scientes | prurigro, it would have to be a new format to not suck | Apr 16 05:45 |
| prurigro | ahh, tragic | Apr 16 05:45 |
| scientes | i mean, its better than jpeg, but that is easy | Apr 16 05:45 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @dyfet don't they mean GNU/Linux? the GNU distribution of Linux (= GNU Linux) is a kernel, and its name is GNU Linux-libre | Apr 16 05:45 | |
| scientes | its not enought better than jpeg to matter | Apr 16 05:45 |
| DaemonFC | the first copy costs tehm something to make | Apr 16 05:45 |
| DaemonFC | after that they can copy it billions of times for free | Apr 16 05:46 |
| DaemonFC | that's the same with software too | Apr 16 05:46 |
| DaemonFC | they want people to think of it as a tangible item so they aren't opposed to paying outrageous sums of money for it | Apr 16 05:46 |
| formic_ | daemonfc - once machines can read your mind, does that mean your input is worth nothing anymore? | Apr 16 05:46 |
| scientes | like what would make alot more sense is to recompress your jpegs LOSSLESSLY, using a non-huffman coding compression | Apr 16 05:46 |
| scientes | which would be another format, but wouldn't reduce the image quality | Apr 16 05:47 |
| DaemonFC | they could sell them at 10 cents a track and still make a nice profit | Apr 16 05:47 |
| prurigro | DaemonFC, I much prefer paying like 10 bucks a month for unlimited access to all music-- paying per song is ridiculous these days with the sheer number of them to go through | Apr 16 05:47 |
| DaemonFC | they just want to make an obscene profit instead | Apr 16 05:47 |
| scientes | when you are talking lossy pictures the cost of a new format is quite extreme | Apr 16 05:47 |
| scientes | same with lossy audio | Apr 16 05:47 |
| formic_ | [00:46] <prurigro> DaemonFC, I much prefer paying like 10 bucks a month for unlimited access to all music-- paying per song is ridiculous these days with the sheer number of them to go through | Apr 16 05:47 |
| formic_ | I pay $0 for unlimited access to all music | Apr 16 05:47 |
| prurigro | lol | Apr 16 05:47 |
| scientes | haha | Apr 16 05:47 |
| formic_ | just tax on my blank cds | Apr 16 05:47 |
| scientes | yeah funny canada | Apr 16 05:48 |
| prurigro | I pay for digitally imported because they go to the effort of finding all the music I want too | Apr 16 05:48 |
| prurigro | and lol, at 10 dollars for 100 blank cds | Apr 16 05:48 |
| prurigro | I really wonder how much of that is tax these days | Apr 16 05:48 |
| formic_ | no idea but they are making a lot of money | Apr 16 05:48 |
| DaemonFC | if they sell a million albums for $1.20 each, (which assumes there are 12 tracks on it), they made $1.2 million | Apr 16 05:48 |
| formic_ | probably a justifiable amount | Apr 16 05:48 |
| DaemonFC | I doubt anyone could argue that one CD costs them $1.2 million to produce | Apr 16 05:49 |
| DaemonFC | and in the case of digital distribution, they don't even have to make CDs | Apr 16 05:49 |
| DaemonFC | or pay retailers | Apr 16 05:49 |
| formic_ | daemonfc - how much is the salary of like 20 people? | Apr 16 05:49 |
| DaemonFC | my point is that they could be profitable at a price point that's far less than what they demand | Apr 16 05:49 |
| formic_ | they could be | Apr 16 05:50 |
| formic_ | you find blue ray movies for like $10 now | Apr 16 05:50 |
| DaemonFC | their goal isn't to be profitable | Apr 16 05:50 |
| formic_ | and music is $20 ? | Apr 16 05:50 |
| DaemonFC | their goal is to be 99% profit | Apr 16 05:50 |
| formic_ | people pay the $20 because of all the hidden messages on the radio | Apr 16 05:51 |
| DaemonFC | it's even more lucrative than bottled water | Apr 16 05:51 |
| DaemonFC | because even bottled water is a tangible good that they can only produce so much of with a given manufacturing capacity | Apr 16 05:51 |
| DaemonFC | if a company that makes bottled water wants to make twice as much of it, they have to double the output capacity of an entire supply chain | Apr 16 05:52 |
| formic_ | .99 to 1.29 for a song is crazy when its not even lossless or cd quality | Apr 16 05:52 |
| DaemonFC | with digital "goods", there's no supply chain because there's no tangible product | Apr 16 05:52 |
| DaemonFC | and no limit to how many can be produced | Apr 16 05:52 |
| DaemonFC | with no per-unit cost to manufacture, at all | Apr 16 05:52 |
| formic_ | there are bandwidth costs | Apr 16 05:53 |
| DaemonFC | those are artificially high too | Apr 16 05:53 |
| DaemonFC | because of monopolies | Apr 16 05:53 |
| formic_ | yeah in the US and Canada | Apr 16 05:53 |
| DaemonFC | and companies that use a lot of bandwidth can negotiate for more favorable per-GB pricing than your or I could | Apr 16 05:53 |
| formic_ | daemonfc - actually thats not hard | Apr 16 05:54 |
| DaemonFC | in some cases, pennies on the dollar | Apr 16 05:54 |
| formic_ | bandwidth is cheaper when you're renting or own a server and you have it at a datacenter | Apr 16 05:54 |
| formic_ | you don't need to be a big corp | Apr 16 05:54 |
| DaemonFC | the farther away you get from a "backbone" connection, the higher the fee will be | Apr 16 05:55 |
| formic_ | residentual, sure they care | Apr 16 05:55 |
| formic_ | they dont want people running servers | Apr 16 05:55 |
| formic_ | so its higher cost per gb | Apr 16 05:55 |
| DaemonFC | actually, doing that has always been a ToS violation of most residential ISPs | Apr 16 05:55 |
| DaemonFC | it just didn't used to be aggressively enforced | Apr 16 05:55 |
| DaemonFC | still isn't | Apr 16 05:55 |
| DaemonFC | they just start charging you by the gigabyte at some point | Apr 16 05:56 |
| formic_ | I find the opposite | Apr 16 05:56 |
| DaemonFC | most people don't feel like adding $10 a month per 50 GB past 150 GB to their bill | Apr 16 05:56 |
| formic_ | when less people were on the internet I was getting harassed by rogers for running a server | Apr 16 05:56 |
| DaemonFC | especially when they go through that to provide free file seeding for bittorrent clients | Apr 16 05:56 |
| formic_ | more people, more software running as a server, they cant do too much harassment | Apr 16 05:57 |
| DaemonFC | I monitor my usage | Apr 16 05:57 |
| formic_ | unless you're running a ftp warez server or something easy to monitor | Apr 16 05:57 |
| DaemonFC | then I make sure I use up the rest before my cap resets | Apr 16 05:57 |
| DaemonFC | formic_, AT&T updates my usage every day at 12:01 AM | Apr 16 05:58 |
| DaemonFC | so it's pretty easy to keep tabs on | Apr 16 05:58 |
| DaemonFC | my goal is to use every last bit I can before they start charging me for going over | Apr 16 05:58 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Sent a github pull request instead of email to a Red Hat developer. Another first for our legal department! | Apr 16 05:59 | |
| formic_ | rogers inserts html code into websites you visit | Apr 16 05:59 |
| DaemonFC | so I'm more conservative in my usage for about the first half or two thirds of the month | Apr 16 05:59 |
| formic_ | telling you if you're close to the cap | Apr 16 05:59 |
| DaemonFC | then when it's clear I have a lot left to use, I start downloading like crazy for a few days to burn through the rest | Apr 16 05:59 |
| DaemonFC | I use Adblock Lite and Flashblock | Apr 16 06:00 |
| DaemonFC | that puts a dent in it | Apr 16 06:00 |
| DaemonFC | relatively small but not insignificant | Apr 16 06:00 |
| DaemonFC | there were a few months where the difference would have been whether or not I went over just due to that | Apr 16 06:01 |
| formic_ | interesting | Apr 16 06:01 |
| DaemonFC | Flash advertisements are the worst by far | Apr 16 06:02 |
| formic_ | I've fallen in love with qupzilla, it has click to play flash and ad block | Apr 16 06:02 |
| DaemonFC | but jpegs can be pretty large too | Apr 16 06:02 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @k0ssa: Activistas Colombianos recuerdan a Mahatma Gandhi "Cuando una ley es injusta, lo correcto es desobedecer" #Leylleras2 | Apr 16 06:02 | |
| formic_ | its missing disconnect though | Apr 16 06:02 |
| DaemonFC | it's getting to where some sites, like Phoronix.... | Apr 16 06:02 |
| DaemonFC | 2-3 MB for ads and <1 MB for content | Apr 16 06:03 |
| DaemonFC | and that's every time you load a page | Apr 16 06:03 |
| DaemonFC | that's ridiculous | Apr 16 06:03 |
| formic_ | adronix | Apr 16 06:03 |
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| DaemonFC | blocking ads alone during a typical month of web browsing can save you at least a few GB | Apr 16 06:03 |
| scientes | hmm, i never noticed that site had ads | Apr 16 06:04 |
| DaemonFC | that is a secondary reason for blocking them though | Apr 16 06:04 |
| DaemonFC | primary reason being that they're very obnoxious | Apr 16 06:04 |
| formic_ | [01:03] <scientes> hmm, i never noticed that site had ads | Apr 16 06:04 |
| formic_ | thats adblock :) | Apr 16 06:04 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Hmm..... " Web freedom faces greatest threat ever, warns Google's +Sergey Brin " http://ur1.ca/3ssxu... http://b1t.it/bjO5 | Apr 16 06:05 | |
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| DaemonFC | I switched to Adblock Lite | Apr 16 06:06 |
| DaemonFC | thanks to Adblock Plus being over two times larger and with the "Acceptable Ads" malicious feature | Apr 16 06:06 |
| DaemonFC | I don't think Adblock Plus can be trusted anymore | Apr 16 06:06 |
| scientes | <formic_> thats adblock :) | Apr 16 06:06 |
| scientes | precisely my point | Apr 16 06:06 |
| DaemonFC | they added some very questionable items to their acceptable ads whitelist | Apr 16 06:07 |
| DaemonFC | including parking pages | Apr 16 06:07 |
| formic_ | dont use the whitelist | Apr 16 06:07 |
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| formic_ | prediction: there will be an adblock lite plus | Apr 16 06:08 |
| formic_ | and diet adblock lite plus | Apr 16 06:09 |
| DaemonFC | Adblock Lite is just a fork of the old 1.x Adblock Plus | Apr 16 06:09 |
| DaemonFC | I didn't really notice any improvements in Adblock Plus 2, jsut the acceptable ads nonsense | Apr 16 06:09 |
| DaemonFC | and that it takes twice the memory footprint it used to | Apr 16 06:09 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] What Facebook wants in cybersecurity doesn't require trampling on our privacy rights. https://eff.org/r.1X8 #CISPA | Apr 16 06:19 | |
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| prurigro | anyone know of a system-wide blocklist setup that's been kept up-to-date enough to still function? | Apr 16 06:22 |
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| prurigro | DaemonFC: cmake . -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/usr -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Release -DENABLE_REMOTE=ON -DENABLE_SPOTIFY=OFF -DENABLE_SPOTIFY_BLOB=OFF && make | Apr 16 06:27 |
| DaemonFC | I don't think a fully free distribution should be offering proprietary software | Apr 16 06:28 |
| DaemonFC | Fedora's policy of not including nonfree software is meaningless if al lyou have to do to evade it is include a stub that is under a free software license whose purpose is to go grab nonfree software | Apr 16 06:28 |
| DaemonFC | this isn't the first time they've done it | Apr 16 06:28 |
| DaemonFC | well, it's the first time they've gone this far | Apr 16 06:29 |
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| prurigro | that's all they'd have to do to change that, were they aware of this at the time? | Apr 16 06:29 |
| DaemonFC | but they have allowed things to be packaged that were useless without nonfree software before | Apr 16 06:29 |
| DaemonFC | like vdpau libraries that needed the Nvidia blob | Apr 16 06:29 |
| DaemonFC | I don't know but if they're allowing it at all then I don't see a point in arguing with them | Apr 16 06:30 |
| DaemonFC | Ubuntu removed that | Apr 16 06:30 |
| DaemonFC | two different companies with two different sets of lawyers that says the same thing is/isn't allowed | Apr 16 06:30 |
| DaemonFC | it's like Schrodinger's Cat | Apr 16 06:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] sure, with a 192% voter turnover :-/ ♻ @laurelrusswurm: @rysiek are you saying 35 MEPs pro #ACTA will outrank 754 MEPs opposed? | Apr 16 06:32 | |
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| DaemonFC | it doesn't help that every distribution has a different definition of "free" | Apr 16 06:34 |
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| DaemonFC | Debian's "free software guidelines" mirror the OSI "open source" definition | Apr 16 06:35 |
| DaemonFC | and not all of their approved licenses are licenses the FSF would call "free" | Apr 16 06:35 |
| DaemonFC | but Fedora doesn't have the same definition as Debian | Apr 16 06:35 |
| DaemonFC | and Ubuntu seems to toss in and remove problematic things all the time | Apr 16 06:35 |
| formic_ | technicially its because its still free software | Apr 16 06:37 |
| formic_ | even if it fetches something non free after install | Apr 16 06:38 |
| formic_ | you can grab the srpm and remove that code | Apr 16 06:38 |
| MinceR | technically, the OSD mirrors the DFSG, not the other way around | Apr 16 06:38 |
| formic_ | that's the great thing about free software | Apr 16 06:39 |
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| DaemonFC | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_free_software_licenses | Apr 16 06:48 |
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| DaemonFC | Why did Debian reject Apple Public Source License 2.0? | Apr 16 06:48 |
| DaemonFC | it is FSF and OSI approved | Apr 16 06:49 |
| DaemonFC | http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2004/06/msg00573.html | Apr 16 06:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Re: Apple's APSL 2.0 " Debian Free Software Guidelines"-compliant? .::. Size~: 16.16 KB | Apr 16 06:50 |
| DaemonFC | http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2004/06/msg00574.html | Apr 16 06:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Re: Apple's APSL 2.0 " Debian Free Software Guidelines"-compliant? .::. Size~: 7.59 KB | Apr 16 06:52 |
| DaemonFC | "A group of people were driving along a road in Canada, in a lorry with | Apr 16 06:52 |
| DaemonFC | "FUCK CANADA!" spray-painted on the side. They were stopped by the | Apr 16 06:52 |
| DaemonFC | police and told to add a French translation." | Apr 16 06:52 |
| DaemonFC | Canadian Bacon | Apr 16 06:52 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] reviewed Geany in Ubuntu: ★★★★★ Fast, sleek, and provides exactly what I need | Apr 16 06:52 | |
| prurigro | Canadian Bacon isn't real bacon | Apr 16 06:52 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Some people have brains that live in music. Lovin it. http://ur1.ca/90i0v | Apr 16 07:04 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Nicci Moon - Google+ - short but brilliant .::. Size~: 152.85 KB | Apr 16 07:04 |
| DaemonFC | what the hell are a group of teenagers doing out walking around in the alley at 2 AM on a Monday morning? | Apr 16 07:05 |
| DaemonFC | I walk at night sometimes, but I take all the cash and credit cards out of my wallet first | Apr 16 07:06 |
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| DaemonFC | a lot of proprietary software has the "forced removal clause" | Apr 16 07:12 |
| DaemonFC | Opera has one | Apr 16 07:12 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] The auto tune version. Cc +Nicci Moon http://ur1.ca/90i38 | Apr 16 07:14 | |
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| formic_ | [01:51] <DaemonFC> "FUCK CANADA!" spray-painted on the side. They were stopped by the | Apr 16 07:17 |
| formic_ | no it was "Canada Sucks" | Apr 16 07:17 |
| formic_ | "Eat my shorts" | Apr 16 07:17 |
| formic_ | etc | Apr 16 07:17 |
| DaemonFC | and in Engrish...... | Apr 16 07:17 |
| DaemonFC | Canada sucky sucky | Apr 16 07:17 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Apr 16 07:17 |
| Diablo-D3 | are we watching uh | Apr 16 07:18 |
| Diablo-D3 | shit | Apr 16 07:18 |
| Diablo-D3 | whats the name of that movie | Apr 16 07:18 |
| DaemonFC | five dollah! | Apr 16 07:18 |
| Diablo-D3 | the last one john candy made before he went to bacon heaven | Apr 16 07:18 |
| DaemonFC | you break it, now buy! | Apr 16 07:18 |
| DaemonFC | Ten dollah! | Apr 16 07:18 |
| DaemonFC | You pay now! | Apr 16 07:18 |
| prurigro | haha | Apr 16 07:18 |
| prurigro | everyone's talking about bacon tonight- now I want some and have none :( | Apr 16 07:19 |
| formic_ | no | Apr 16 07:19 |
| formic_ | wagons east was the last | Apr 16 07:19 |
| formic_ | he died during filming | Apr 16 07:19 |
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| Diablo-D3 | oh right canadian bacon | Apr 16 07:20 |
| Diablo-D3 | durr | Apr 16 07:20 |
| Diablo-D3 | formic_: fine the last he made it through | Apr 16 07:20 |
| formic_ | we really do have the hacker hellstorm | Apr 16 07:21 |
| prurigro | up here its called back bacon-- and every now and then someone offers it to you, and you're like "where's the real bacon?" | Apr 16 07:21 |
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| formic_ | bacon! | Apr 16 07:22 |
| Diablo-D3 | prurigro: canadian bacon is ham | Apr 16 07:22 |
| prurigro | its similar to ham | Apr 16 07:22 |
| prurigro | but slightly different-- I actually really don't like ham | Apr 16 07:22 |
| prurigro | back bacon is tolerable though | Apr 16 07:22 |
| prurigro | though the name bacon means it's always associated with disappointment | Apr 16 07:23 |
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| *DaemonFC fries up some spam and canned hash | Apr 16 07:26 | |
| DaemonFC | who's hungry? :) | Apr 16 07:26 |
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| prurigro | apparently people taste like pigs | Apr 16 07:27 |
| prurigro | I wonder if that means we'd make good bacon | Apr 16 07:27 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Are open standards a closed barrier? http://ur1.ca/90i60 #gnu #linux #foss #business #egovt #microsoft #windows | Apr 16 07:34 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Are open standards a closed barrier? | Government Digital Service .::. Size~: 62.68 KB | Apr 16 07:34 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Noaptea Învierii, la petecul de pământ ce aparține întregii umanități http://ur1.ca/90i6a #romania #monarchy #royal #christian | Apr 16 07:35 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Noaptea Învierii, la petecul de pământ ce aparține întregii umanități | Romania. Altfel .::. Size~: 52.56 KB | Apr 16 07:35 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Strange coincidence. Today is the start of two cases. One is in Norway - the case against Breivik, the other one in th... http://b1t.it/bjPH | Apr 16 07:39 | |
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| DaemonFC | I just chopped up my old drivers license | Apr 16 07:41 |
| *DaemonFC really should get a shredder | Apr 16 07:42 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @lievenjanssen gij zijt op vakantie gij @FredoFredonis | Apr 16 07:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @FredoFredonis Jij stond in cc. Lieven is op vakantie. Hij mag niet tweeten van zijn vriendin. Denk ik. /cc @lieven ... | Apr 16 07:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @hadleybeeman Have fun! @Miel_vds will be there for a talk on #semweb + @TheDataTank | Apr 16 07:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @amedee Hoor ik daar iemand die tijd wil investeren? ;) | Apr 16 07:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @Tuinslak Mag ik vrij invullen wat je daarmee bedoelt? ^^ @Choisissez | Apr 16 07:54 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @x11r5: @ratfink Planning to blog more about #osi than #cc, from my point of the whole twitter and identica thing . | Apr 16 08:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @x11r5: Adult advanced beginner/intermediate swim clinic march 5,6,7 from 1-2:30pm at dc ranch village (spring break week for scottsdale s | Apr 16 08:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] In Rooms St Clair 3b and 4. RT @phil_alex: CCS3 presentation by Eva Kasal and Bert Bos #WWW2012 - http://t.co/jbGFqMhX | Apr 16 08:14 | |
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| *Aondo_ is now known as Aondo | Apr 16 08:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] You can post to circles on G+, why can't you follow circles a-la Twitter lists? | Apr 16 08:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Dear governments in Europe. The People != The Financial Market. It is your job to regulate markets and protect people.... http://b1t.it/bjQP | Apr 16 08:49 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] #www2012 Tutorials this a.m. in St Clair 3B & 4. CSS3 in Style [full], Accessibility in Tomorrow's Web http://ping.fm/a7C0C | Apr 16 08:54 | |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1519422 | Apr 16 08:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Try Calligra 2.4 for a New Microsoft Office Alternative http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/253738/try_calligra_24_for_a_new_microsoft_office_alternative.html #kde | Apr 16 08:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> Title: Try Calligra 2.4 for a New Microsoft Office Alternative | PCWorld Business Center .::. Size~: 80.75 KB | Apr 16 08:55 |
| schestowitz | "I find it less featured, but superior in so many ways. The killer stroke against it though, is it's inability to save .doc / .docx formats. As much as I'd love every single one of my clients to switch to Caligra / LibreOffice or accept non editable / non formatted documents... I don't see it happening anytime soon. The interface and instantly updated textflow engine on Caligra is slick though." | Apr 16 08:55 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/#!/mikec1972/status/191547622840991744/photo/1/large | Apr 16 08:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a tweet? | Apr 16 08:58 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Shadowrun Returns Will Have Linux Support http://ur1.ca/90ipo #linux | Apr 16 09:02 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "America’s 450 launch-ready land-based nuclear-armed ballistic missiles are the opposite of a deterrent to attack." http://ur1.ca/90iq6 | Apr 16 09:05 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Rooted Kindle Fire screenshot tour http://ur1.ca/90iqo #android | Apr 16 09:09 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Web freedom faces greatest threat ever, warns #Google's Sergey Brin http://gu.com/p/36q7v not privacy then? oh wait, hypocrisy 101 | Apr 16 09:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Some people are gay in space. Get over it http://gu.com/p/36pkp | Apr 16 09:12 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Web freedom faces greatest threat ever, warns Google's Sergey Brin | Technology | The Guardian .::. Size~: 249.1 KB | Apr 16 09:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Charlie Brooker: Some people are gay in space. Get over it | Comment is free | The Guardian .::. Size~: 234.95 KB | Apr 16 09:12 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Launch of the Directory of Open Access Books - http://bit.ly/If13T2 useful #openaccess | Apr 16 09:15 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] MPAA-Affiliated Anti-Piracy Group Mysteriously Disappears - http://bit.ly/HQtIgY spooky | Apr 16 09:17 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: MPAA-Affiliated Anti-Piracy Group Mysteriously Disappears | TorrentFreak .::. Size~: 28.03 KB | Apr 16 09:17 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[torproject/@torproject] You can find updated Obfsproxy Tor Browser Bundles for Windows, Mac OS X, and Linux on https://www.torproject.org/projects/obfsproxy | Apr 16 09:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] GIMP 2.7 for Photoshop Expatriates http://ur1.ca/8zrod #gimp | Apr 16 09:19 | |
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| DaemonFC | The Russian early warning false alarm was an obvious false alarm | Apr 16 09:20 |
| DaemonFC | if either side was going to launch a first strike, it would definitely be more than one missile | Apr 16 09:20 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Me and My (Copyrighted) Shadow - http://bit.ly/HKoiab interesting analysis of copyright and magic case | Apr 16 09:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] the internet is the largest online MMORPG, complete with avatars & nicknames - http://goo.gl/X6Utx inspired paraphrasing | Apr 16 09:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Zerobin, Open Source Pastebin Alternative With Client-Side Encryption - http://bit.ly/J3IT7Q cool idea | Apr 16 09:20 | |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Charlie Brooker: Some people are gay in space. Get over it | Comment is free | The Guardian .::. Size~: 235.27 KB | Apr 16 09:21 |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC: who started it? | Apr 16 09:21 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] How would you envisage the "governance" of such an "Internet of Things" (IoT)? - http://bit.ly/HGjRbH EU online questionnaire | Apr 16 09:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] MySQL founder's latest MariaDB release takes "enterprise" features open-source http://ur1.ca/90iti | Apr 16 09:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] seriously good & funny article by #CharlieBrooker specially the gayified story of #StarWars #brilliant - I almost fell off my chair laughing | Apr 16 09:22 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The Internet is gearing up for the next technological revolution: communication with and among objects. How would you envisage the "governance" of such an "Internet of Things" (IoT)? .::. Size~: 2.75 KB | Apr 16 09:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: MySQL founder's latest MariaDB release takes "enterprise" features open-source .::. Size~: 32.99 KB | Apr 16 09:22 |
| DaemonFC | Dawn is over there hacking up a lung | Apr 16 09:22 |
| DaemonFC | just goes to show what good clean living can do for you | Apr 16 09:22 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] What Apple’s Ebook Fiasco Means for Amazon and the Book Business - http://on.mash.to/HN5zs8 solid analysis | Apr 16 09:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Slackel current KDE 4.8.2 installation and Live images are released! http://ur1.ca/90itu #kde #linux | Apr 16 09:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Governments should protect the people by regulating markets. But they are doing the opposite now. This must stop. | Apr 16 09:24 | |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Slackel - Slackel current KDE 4.8.2 installation and Live images are released! .::. Size~: 39.21 KB | Apr 16 09:24 |
| DaemonFC | she has bronchitis | Apr 16 09:24 |
| DaemonFC | from smoking 4 packs of cigarettes a day | Apr 16 09:24 |
| DaemonFC | it's clear that worse is yet to come | Apr 16 09:24 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Gigantisches Potential: Jeder Dritte würde die Piraten wählen - http://bit.ly/HVXgvx wow, 1 in 3 could see vote Pirate - incredible | Apr 16 09:25 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Gigantisches Potential: Jeder Dritte würde die Piraten wählen - SPIEGEL ONLINE - Nachrichten - Politik .::. Size~: 64.66 KB | Apr 16 09:25 |
| schestowitz | maybe she lost the will to live | Apr 16 09:27 |
| schestowitz | so first she got drunk and DUI) | Apr 16 09:27 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Now for the good news – sharing can make you happy. Pass it on http://gu.com/p/36qx6 as another #MPAA exec sobs into his morning latte | Apr 16 09:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #IEEE blows it on the Security & Privacy copyright agreement - http://bit.ly/IXk6Ep totally out of touch #openaccess | Apr 16 09:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Expert: New #CISPA Bill Isn't SOPA, But Still Attacks Constitutional Rights http://ur1.ca/90iub #sopa | Apr 16 09:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Treasury reveals how little tax the super-rich pay http://gu.com/p/36q9m | Apr 16 09:27 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Now for the good news – sharing can make you happy. Pass it on | Maria Konnikova | Comment is free | The Observer .::. Size~: 247.39 KB | Apr 16 09:27 |
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| schestowitz | and now smoking a lot | Apr 16 09:27 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Inside Washington's high risk mission to beat web censors http://gu.com/p/36pma from the folks who brought you #SOPA #PIPA #ACTA #DMCA etc | Apr 16 09:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] "damnit, we have patents on censoring the web, why should these other countries do it without paying us" | Apr 16 09:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Linux Features Prominently at This Year’s CES http://ur1.ca/90iuv #linux | Apr 16 09:29 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Inside Washington's high risk mission to beat web censors | Technology | The Guardian .::. Size~: 281.6 KB | Apr 16 09:29 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Web freedom faces greatest threat ever, warns Google's Sergey Brin - http://bit.ly/HGljei interesting comment on piracy | Apr 16 09:30 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Web freedom faces greatest threat ever, warns Google's Sergey Brin | Technology | The Guardian .::. Size~: 248.63 KB | Apr 16 09:30 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Open source warfare != open source software - http://bit.ly/HVY1EO ESR weighs in on one of my favourite blogs | Apr 16 09:32 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Open source warfare != open source software .::. Size~: 83.16 KB | Apr 16 09:32 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Of open data and pregnant men - http://bit.ly/IqC7r8 nicely done | Apr 16 09:34 | |
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| MinceR | r4wr | Apr 16 09:37 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Digital Public Domain: Foundations for an Open Culture - http://bit.ly/HGmudN free #ebook #cc #pd | Apr 16 09:37 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The Digital Public Domain: Foundations for an Open Culture | International Communia Association .::. Size~: 20.48 KB | Apr 16 09:37 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Cigarettes may have to be sold in plain packets following public consultation - http://bit.ly/HKeEER wait for squeals from the cancer cos. | Apr 16 09:39 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Cigarettes may have to be sold in plain packets following public consultation | Society | The Guardian .::. Size~: 104.96 KB | Apr 16 09:39 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Netflix CEO complains about #Comcast's data caps again: 'In what way is this neutral?' http://goo.gl/0hthu | Apr 16 09:47 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Netflix CEO complains about Comcast's data caps again: 'In what way is this neutral?' | The Verge .::. Size~: 82.23 KB | Apr 16 09:47 |
| DaemonFC | as usual | Apr 16 09:47 |
| DaemonFC | Weather Channel says no rain | Apr 16 09:48 |
| DaemonFC | so we get a thunderstorm | Apr 16 09:48 |
| DaemonFC | Netflix should complain about AT&T's data caps | Apr 16 09:48 |
| DaemonFC | theirs are lower and they charge you more for exceeding them | Apr 16 09:49 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Dawn is one of those people that always has problems but you can't feel sorry for them because they brought ALL of it on themselves | Apr 16 09:52 |
| DaemonFC | she's sick, because she's a chain smoking alcoholic | Apr 16 09:53 |
| DaemonFC | she gets beaten up by men, while she's supporting them | Apr 16 09:53 |
| DaemonFC | she gets fired from her job, because she didn't bother to fill out the medical leave papers while she was having surgery | Apr 16 09:54 |
| DaemonFC | she gets arrested for drunk driving because.....she got drunk and drove | Apr 16 09:54 |
| DaemonFC | it's not like any of this is actually just bad luck or people being mean or unfair to her | Apr 16 09:54 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I stretched out after getting out of bed yesterday, and pulled something in my back | Apr 16 09:58 |
| DaemonFC | still hurts | Apr 16 09:58 |
| DaemonFC | took some aspirin, doesn't seem to be helping | Apr 16 09:58 |
| DaemonFC | maybe I'll go take a hot bath and then fish out that back massage thing from wherever it's at in my closet | Apr 16 09:58 |
| DaemonFC | prurigro, http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=amd_fusion_gallium3d&num=1 | Apr 16 10:00 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: [Phoronix] AMD Fusion On Gallium3D Leaves A Lot To Be Desired .::. Size~: 20.83 KB | Apr 16 10:00 |
| prurigro | DaemonFC, Gallium3D is one of the open source driver setups? | Apr 16 10:02 |
| DaemonFC | open source radeon uses Gallium3d for 3d acceleration | Apr 16 10:02 |
| DaemonFC | but it will improve in the next six months | Apr 16 10:03 |
| DaemonFC | macrotiling and hyper-z support will land for r600 | Apr 16 10:03 |
| DaemonFC | those will be there in Fedora 18 and Ubuntu 12.10 | Apr 16 10:03 |
| DaemonFC | it will definitely be a closer match by then compared with Catalyst | Apr 16 10:04 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Dear +Google - as we over here in Germany are officially not allowed to watch most of the music videos on Youtube, can... http://b1t.it/bjR7 | Apr 16 10:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Pirate Party Berlin adopted policy to make all internally developed software Open Source. I really hope they will also... http://b1t.it/bjSk | Apr 16 10:10 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Jan Wildeboer - Google+ - Dear +Google - as we over here in Germany are officially… .::. Size~: 140.15 KB | Apr 16 10:10 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] "Let's ignore the safe haven rules" is the short form. Newest twist in Megaupload case: http://ur1.ca/90j20... http://b1t.it/bjSN | Apr 16 10:19 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fsfe/@fsfe] Is vendor lock-in costing Helsinki 3.4 million Euros per year? http://www.ur1.ca/90j37 | Apr 16 10:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] "Kaczyński wyłożył ostatnio spójną, elegancką intelektualnie koncepcję polityczną. Ma tylko tę wadę, że jest ona niesłuszna" - Ludwik Dorn | Apr 16 10:32 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Is vendor lock-in costing Helsinki 3.4 million Euros per year? .::. Size~: 9.1 KB | Apr 16 10:32 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Piratenpartei erklärt Urheberrechtspositionen - http://bit.ly/JojuTk getting there #copyright | Apr 16 10:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] RT @fsfe Is vendor lock-in costing Helsinki 3.4 million Euros per year? http://www.ur1.ca/90j37 | Apr 16 10:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] "Let's ignore the safe harbour rules" is the short form. Newest twist in Megaupload case: http://ur1.ca/90j3j... http://b1t.it/bjSN | Apr 16 10:34 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Piratenpartei erklärt Urheberrechtspositionen › netzpolitik.org .::. Size~: 37.67 KB | Apr 16 10:34 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] How the patent system was originally planned. I love this. Scanning through expired patents and making that stuff with... http://b1t.it/bjS0 | Apr 16 10:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Shared a post "" http://ur1.ca/90j5d | Apr 16 10:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] PZU, czyli jak zrobić w konia rodzinę zmarłego na sepsę chłopaka: bit.ly/IwCEWh | Apr 16 10:49 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Jan Wildeboer - Google+ - How the patent system was originally planned. I love this.… .::. Size~: 145.79 KB | Apr 16 10:49 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[freenodestaff/@freenodestaff] voted for "Not very good. I expect better." | Apr 16 11:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] New Zealand Patents Bill delay questioned - http://bit.ly/HYTlKg NZ buckling under US TPP pressure? ( @zoobab) #tpp #swpats | Apr 16 11:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @glynmoody: New Zealand Patents Bill delay questioned - http://bit.ly/HYTlKg NZ buckling under US TPP pressure? ( @... http://b1t.it/bjTD | Apr 16 11:10 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Patents Bill delay questioned | Computerworld New Zealand .::. Size~: 49.77 KB | Apr 16 11:11 |
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| schestowitz | Morning all | Apr 16 11:17 |
| iophk | Hey | Apr 16 11:17 |
| schestowitz | I'm on dty all day today, 16 hours | Apr 16 11:18 |
| iophk | Long stretch. What's the occasion? | Apr 16 11:18 |
| schestowitz | working overtime, double the wage | Apr 16 11:18 |
| iophk | Double overtime is good. | Apr 16 11:19 |
| iophk | https://www.zdnet.com/blog/facebook/google-facebook-and-apple-threaten-internet-freedom/11805 | Apr 16 11:20 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Google: Facebook and Apple threaten Internet freedom | ZDNet .::. Size~: 141.17 KB | Apr 16 11:20 |
| schestowitz | feeling a bit nauseous from all the tea | Apr 16 11:20 |
| schestowitz | iophk: what about MSFT? | Apr 16 11:20 |
| schestowitz | Are they supporting that new SOPA-like thing? | Apr 16 11:20 |
| schestowitz | CISPA IIRC | Apr 16 11:20 |
| schestowitz | LOL | Apr 16 11:21 |
| schestowitz | It's Microsoft Emil!! | Apr 16 11:21 |
| schestowitz | I know they put him as assigned to FB | Apr 16 11:21 |
| schestowitz | He's the pro-MSFT spinner from Ars | Apr 16 11:21 |
| schestowitz | Now DrPizza replaces him | Apr 16 11:21 |
| iophk | It's inconvenient for MS boosters to pay attention to M$ | Apr 16 11:23 |
| schestowitz | when there's bad news | Apr 16 11:23 |
| schestowitz | deflecting bad publicity to Google | Apr 16 11:23 |
| schestowitz | !google peter bright webm proprietary | Apr 16 11:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Google's dropping H.264 from Chrome a step backward for openness | http://arstechnica.com/web/news/2011/01/googles-dropping-h264-from-chrome-a-step-backward-for-openness.ars | Apr 16 11:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Microsoft Opens Door to Out-of-the-box WebM Support in IE9 | http://www.osnews.com/story/24361/Microsoft_Opens_Door_to_Out-of-the-box_WebM_Support_in_IE9 | Apr 16 11:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Haavard - Is the removal of H.264 from Chrome a step backward for ... | http://my.opera.com/haavard/blog/2011/01/13/openness | Apr 16 11:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - [How To] Quickly Convert Ogv to Avi in Ubuntu | http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/09/how-to-convert-ogv-avi-ubuntu/ | Apr 16 11:24 |
| iophk | H.264 is not open yet. | Apr 16 11:24 |
| schestowitz | open like a bear trap | Apr 16 11:25 |
| iophk | Redefining open. | Apr 16 11:25 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.businessweek.com/news/2012-04-12/nokia-swaps-trade-like-junk-as-cash-dwindles-corporate-finance | Apr 16 11:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Nokia Swaps Trade Like Junk as Cash Dwindles: Corporate Finance - Businessweek .::. Size~: 48.6 KB | Apr 16 11:29 |
| iophk | http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-04-12/nokia-swaps-trade-like-junk-as-cash-dwindles-corporate-finance.html | Apr 16 11:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Nokia Swaps Trade Like Junk as Cash Dwindles: Corporate Finance - Bloomberg .::. Size~: 172.1 KB | Apr 16 11:35 |
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| -NickServ-schestowitz!~schestowi@host109-145-80-53.range109-145.btcentralplus.com has just authenticated as you (schestowitz) | Apr 16 11:37 | |
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| iophk | http://www.informationweek.com/news/hardware/handheld/232800481 | Apr 16 11:37 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Nokia Lumia 900: Wisdom Of Easter Launch Questioned - Hardware - Handhelds/PDAs - Informationweek .::. Size~: 109.53 KB | Apr 16 11:37 |
| iophk | I guess they were hoping no one would notice it was released with bugs. | Apr 16 11:37 |
| schestowitz | One of he two users noticed | Apr 16 11:38 |
| schestowitz | and it's wasn't Stephen | Apr 16 11:38 |
| iophk | No one, not even the once leader Nokia survives a partnership with M$ | Apr 16 11:38 |
| schestowitz | does MSFt survive? | Apr 16 11:45 |
| schestowitz | I think they just try to take down with them into the vortex anything that still has substance | Apr 16 11:45 |
| iophk | I agree it appears to be about destruction of other things on the way down. | Apr 16 11:46 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: Tens of thousands visited our crowdsourcing challenge on helping web startups. Have you? http://p.ost.im/p/ebehAB | Apr 16 11:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: What helps web entrepreneurs launch & grow? Now crowdsourcing ideas http://t.co/OXTL8QFF http://p.ost.im/p/eb6E5j | Apr 16 11:47 | |
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| iophk | http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/04/11/markets-europe-stocks-idUSL6E8FB4YR20120411 | Apr 16 11:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Europe shares halt week-long slide; Nokia slumps | Reuters .::. Size~: 100.88 KB | Apr 16 11:54 |
| iophk | http://www.dailyfinance.com/2012/04/15/3-predictions-for-this-week/ | Apr 16 11:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: 3 Predictions for This Week - DailyFinance .::. Size~: 57.39 KB | Apr 16 11:56 |
| iophk | http://blogs.wsj.com/marketbeat/2012/04/11/nokias-losing-its-connection/ | Apr 16 11:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Nokia's Losing its Connection - MarketBeat - WSJ .::. Size~: 64.08 KB | Apr 16 11:59 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Internet Industry concerns on the Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement - http://bit.ly/HC3Vsm great to see (v @StopActaNow) #ACTA | Apr 16 11:59 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] The problem is, it's very hard to trust the level of complexity in modern technology & !opensource is the best solution we've come up with | Apr 16 12:00 | |
| iophk | None survive: "the cursed history of companies taking Microsoft's billions can't be ignored." http://www.fool.co.uk/news/investing/2012/04/16/if-microsoft-pays-you-1-billion-run-the-other-way.aspx | Apr 16 12:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: If Microsoft Pays You $1 Billion, Run The Other Way - 16/04/2012 .::. Size~: 52.48 KB | Apr 16 12:01 |
| schestowitz | http://arebentisch.wordpress.com/2012/04/16/ifpi-the-effect-of-french-hadopi-on-music-sales/ | Apr 16 12:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: IFPI – The Effect of French Hadopi on Music Sales « Sköne Oke .::. Size~: 32.21 KB | Apr 16 12:01 |
| iophk | http://www.dailyfinance.com/2012/04/11/nokia-gets-a-taste-of-its-own-medicine/ | Apr 16 12:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Nokia Gets a Taste of Its Own Medicine - DailyFinance .::. Size~: 53.46 KB | Apr 16 12:05 |
| iophk | "For now, I've lost all confidence in the company's ability to regain market share" | Apr 16 12:06 |
| iophk | and it will stay that way until they get back to Meego/Tizen/Android | Apr 16 12:06 |
| iophk | …and dump M$ Elop | Apr 16 12:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] Helsinki's CIO says city is locked into MS Office, but #opendata will fix it. http://ur1.ca/8zvf2 Care to share your secret cure, Mr CIO? | Apr 16 12:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Extradition The Fight of Our Lives - http://bit.ly/IPFzOp stopping #odwyer's absurd extradition to US for UK action that is not a crime | Apr 16 12:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @rms Urgent: Tell Facebook to Reject CISPA http://ur1.ca/90jhn | Apr 16 12:09 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Helsinki aims for open data but resigns itself to IT vendor lock-in | Joinup .::. Size~: 27.19 KB | Apr 16 12:09 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: #Extradition The Fight of Our Lives: SEND IN THE WEBFORM PLEASE .::. Size~: 120.36 KB | Apr 16 12:09 |
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| iophk | "Raitio declined to clarify the numbers." — that says it all right there. | Apr 16 12:19 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Ja nee, schon klar. Das tut dem Mathematiker in mir schon weh. Aus 100% 500% zu wenig zu machen ist bezeichnend für d... http://b1t.it/bjVt | Apr 16 12:20 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Jan Wildeboer - Google+ - Die Argumentation bei der Gema ist schon einzigartig… .::. Size~: 147.42 KB | Apr 16 12:20 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Another Reason Why #DRM Is Bad -- For Publishers - http://bit.ly/HQZvOL to say nothing of the public #publishing | Apr 16 12:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Die GEMA und der Schutz der Künstler.http://www.tagesspiegel.de/kultur/rechteverwertung-gema-fordert-1000-prozent-meh... http://b1t.it/bjVB | Apr 16 12:29 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Another Reason Why DRM Is Bad -- For Publishers | Techdirt .::. Size~: 40.56 KB | Apr 16 12:29 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] How open is corporate data in Open Government Partnership countries? - http://bit.ly/IPNVp0 fascinating stats; uk doing quite well | Apr 16 12:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @karsten Helsinki's CIO says city is locked into MS Office, but #opendata will fix it. http://ur1.ca/8zvf2 Care to share your secret ... | Apr 16 12:50 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @glynmoody New Zealand Patents Bill delay questioned - http://bit.ly/HYTlKg NZ buckling under US TPP pressure? ( @zoobab) #tpp #swpats | Apr 16 12:52 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @glynmoody Another Reason Why #DRM Is Bad -- For Publishers - http://bit.ly/HQZvOL to say nothing of the public #publishing | Apr 16 13:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] being named by @sweden as "their main brain regarding polish net politics" - THAT is priceless! bit.ly/J1gzAc | Apr 16 13:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Homens: como conseguir um barbear perfeito (barbear clássico) – Parte 3 | | Orquidea's LoungeOrquidea's Lounge http://goo.gl/wsFKU | Apr 16 13:02 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @cyberkiller: #Kędzierzyn-Koźle Prawicowa nagonka na nauczycielkę http://ur1.ca/90jqa | Apr 16 13:07 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @jgbarah Future Internet Assembly http://ur1.ca/90jtf Bringing together FP7 R&D projects | Apr 16 13:20 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @wkpl: Wolne Granie #004! Zapraszamy na godzinę muzyki z Michałem 'cześkiem' Czyżewskim - @mczyzewski - http://bit.ly/IRgvUx | Apr 16 14:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Das ist schon wieder so verrückt das es cool ist. Ich zitiere aus der neuen Tarifstruktur der GEMA M-V https://www.ge... http://b1t.it/bjWW | Apr 16 14:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Robobees, swarms, and the power of the collective | http://red.ht/HWn8Y8 | Apr 16 14:02 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Die Zeit ist reif für eine Alternative zur GEMA um diesem Wahnsinn Einhalt zu gebieten. Ich schlage daher die Gründu... http://b1t.it/bjXG | Apr 16 14:04 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Jan Wildeboer - Google+ - Die Zeit ist reif für eine Alternative zur GEMA um diesem… .::. Size~: 150.76 KB | Apr 16 14:04 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] A lição dos trabalhadores à economia | Jornal de negócios online http://goo.gl/A9cWD #pt | Apr 16 14:07 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Unterliegt die GEMA eigentlich der Aufsicht der Regulierungsbehörde? Wenn nicht, wäre das vielleicht eine Idee? cc +... http://b1t.it/bjXK | Apr 16 14:09 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Debian Project News - April 16th, 2012 http://goo.gl/YmWqf #floss | Apr 16 14:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Debian KFreeBSD 9.0 Vs. Linux Vs. #FreeBSD 9 Benchmarks - http://ur1.ca/5i3xf http://goo.gl/O09ae #floss | Apr 16 14:12 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Netflix can't use its $1 million algorithm due to engineering costs: http://bit.ly/HM3H6i | Apr 16 14:14 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @glynmoody Another Reason Why #DRM Is Bad -- For Publishers - http://bit.ly/HQZvOL to say nothing of the public #publishing | Apr 16 14:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @glynmoody #Extradition The Fight of Our Lives - http://bit.ly/IPFzOp stopping #odwyer's absurd extradition to US for UK action that ... | Apr 16 14:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @schestowitz Linux Features Prominently at This Year’s CES http://ur1.ca/90iuv #linux | Apr 16 14:15 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Why is downloading podcasts such a computationally arduous task for #iTunes?? It seems to block any other actions one can take. | Apr 16 14:45 | |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/92786654 http://identi.ca/notice/92786686 | Apr 16 14:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @David Sugar (dyfet)'s status on Monday, 16-Apr-12 13:14:43 UTC - Identi.ca: @alexandre I was making a subtle point that they talk of both, while Canonical refuses to even speak of either. But yes, they say GNU/Linux | Apr 16 14:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @David Sugar (dyfet)'s status on Monday, 16-Apr-12 13:16:51 UTC - Identi.ca: @jacob yes, some of their pages do seem inconsistent, but intent seems at least correct. | Apr 16 14:52 |
| schestowitz | iophk: taco is without a job last I checked.. | Apr 16 14:53 |
| schestowitz | and the audiocast is still going, last ep was days ago | Apr 16 14:53 |
| iophk | I thought he got hired recently. | Apr 16 14:53 |
| schestowitz | who by? | Apr 16 14:53 |
| schestowitz | !google hires rob malda | Apr 16 14:53 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Rob Malda - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rob_Malda | Apr 16 14:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Rob Malda - Google+ - I have accepted a job for the Washington ... | https://plus.google.com/105030465637303791249/posts/czug5qfZesk | Apr 16 14:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Dan Gillmor - Google+ - I have accepted a job for the Washington ... | https://plus.google.com/113210431006401244170/posts/YBQzLCSyC7d | Apr 16 14:53 |
| schestowitz | washpo | Apr 16 14:54 |
| schestowitz | "I have accepted a job for the Washington Post Co's WaPo Labs. Here is a press release." | Apr 16 14:54 |
| schestowitz | March 5th | Apr 16 14:54 |
| schestowitz | http://www.marketwatch.com/story/the-washington-post-companys-wapo-labs-hires-rob-malda-as-chief-strategist-and-editor-at-large-2012-03-05 | Apr 16 14:54 |
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| iophk | https://plus.google.com/105030465637303791249/posts/czug5qfZesk | Apr 16 14:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Rob Malda - Google+ - I have accepted a job for the Washington Post Co's WaPo… .::. Size~: 179.25 KB | Apr 16 14:54 |
| schestowitz | "He will report to Vijay Ravindran, the Post Company's Chief Digital Officer, with a focus on helping build next generation news products, including expanding the success of the Social Reader application, which more than 16 million users have downloaded in under six months." | Apr 16 14:55 |
| schestowitz | !google washpo melinda exits | Apr 16 14:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Michele Bachmann exits the GOP race as she entered it - The ... | http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/she-the-people/post/michele-bachmann-exits-the-gop-race-as-she-entered-it/2012/01/04/gIQAnlXqaP_blog.html | Apr 16 14:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Texans focus on Rick Perry's savvy exit - The Washington Post - The ... | http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/she-the-people/post/texans-focus-on-rick-perrys-savvy-exit/2012/01/22/gIQAjNyiJQ_blog.html | Apr 16 14:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - The 5 things you need to know in the Wisconsin exit polls - The ... | http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/post/the-5-things-you-need-to-know-in-the-wisconsin-exit-polls/2012/04/04/gIQAhdzAvS_blog.html | Apr 16 14:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Wash Post Journalist: 'Maybe the Founders Were Wrong' to ... | http://newsbusters.org/blogs/scott-whitlock/2012/02/08/wash-post-journalist-maybe-founders-were-wrong-guarantee-free-exerci | Apr 16 14:55 |
| schestowitz | !google washpo warren buffett | Apr 16 14:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Warren Buffett - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Buffett | Apr 16 14:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Did Warren Buffett Just Bash the Washington Post's Strategy? - Forbes | http://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffbercovici/2012/02/27/did-warren-buffett-just-bash-the-washington-posts-strategy/ | Apr 16 14:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Dionne: Why conservatives hate Warren Buffett - The Washington Post | http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/dionne-why-conservatives-hate-warren-buffett/2011/09/28/gIQAxmne5K_story.html | Apr 16 14:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Warren Buffett: Billionaire investor - The Washington Post | http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/warren-buffett-billionaire-investor/2011/09/01/gIQAgQa6uJ_gallery.html | Apr 16 14:55 |
| iophk | Are Buffett and Gates still on the board there? | Apr 16 14:55 |
| schestowitz | Gates is out | Apr 16 14:55 |
| schestowitz | !google techrights scandal gates washington post | Apr 16 14:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Education Scandal Leaves Melinda Gates Out of the Washington Post | http://techrights.org/2011/01/07/washington-post-without-gates/ | Apr 16 14:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Gates Foundation Critique - Techrights | http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Gates_Foundation_Critique | Apr 16 14:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Bill Gates Uses Influence Over Washington Post, GOOD ... - Techrights | http://techrights.org/2011/08/13/pr-blitz-using-polio/ | Apr 16 14:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Microsoft - Tax - Techrights | http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Microsoft_-_Tax | Apr 16 14:56 |
| iophk | Did Malda have to relocate for his new job or can he telecommute? It'd be a big step down to move out east. | Apr 16 14:56 |
| schestowitz | and to be bossed around | Apr 16 14:57 |
| iophk | Yes, he's not his own boss anymore. But then again what happened at the end of his time at /. ? | Apr 16 14:58 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] "100$ to Save The World" http://ur1.ca/90kqz | Apr 16 15:00 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Hearing Aids, Monopolies, And Why The Health Industry Is Ripe For Disruption http://goo.gl/iWMeX | Apr 16 15:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] "ninthfloor.org: access for all" http://ur1.ca/90kre | Apr 16 15:02 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Hearing Aids, Monopolies, And Why The Health Industry Is Ripe For Disruption | Techdirt .::. Size~: 50.58 KB | Apr 16 15:02 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] "Pledgie — Donate To: "ninthfloor.org fundraising effort for 2012"" http://ur1.ca/90krw | Apr 16 15:04 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Why was #ACTA approved in the EU Fisheries Council? - http://bit.ly/HZreKW good analysis (v @Dana_Council @avalta @RalfGrahn) | Apr 16 15:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Co-fundador da #Google alerta que liberdade na internet enfrenta a maior ameaça de sempre | Jornal negócios http://goo.gl/llTWl #internet | Apr 16 15:37 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Why was ACTA approved in the EU Fisheries Council? | Polscieu .::. Size~: 40.16 KB | Apr 16 15:37 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Co-fundador da Google alerta que liberdade na internet enfrenta a maior ameaça de sempre- Empresas - Jornal de negócios online .::. Size~: 93.82 KB | Apr 16 15:37 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Google Co-Founder Sergey Brin Warns Of Threats To #Internet Freedom From #Facebook | Sky News http://goo.gl/aPW3H #walledgardens | Apr 16 15:39 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Google Co-Founder Sergey Brin Warns Of Threats To Internet Freedom From Facebook | Business | Sky News .::. Size~: 69.68 KB | Apr 16 15:39 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1518516 | Apr 16 15:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Ubuntu 12.04 will provide APIs to bridge Openstack and Amazon Web Services http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2167760/ubuntu-1204-provide-apis-bridge-openstack-amazon-web-services #fogcomputing #ubuntu | Apr 16 15:44 |
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| schestowitz | This is excellent news! "" | Apr 16 15:44 |
| schestowitz | iophk: who's in charge of ./. now? | Apr 16 15:45 |
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| iophk | I don't know the staffing or internals there. | Apr 16 15:50 |
| schestowitz | worth finding out | Apr 16 15:50 |
| schestowitz | there's one manjor guy from geknet who recently left | Apr 16 15:50 |
| schestowitz | he became some community manager in some company, I can't recall his name, but I was in touch with him once | Apr 16 15:50 |
| schestowitz | remember roblimo? | Apr 16 15:51 |
| iophk | YEs. | Apr 16 15:51 |
| iophk | He's long gone. | Apr 16 15:51 |
| iophk | - from /. | Apr 16 15:51 |
| schestowitz | !google roblimo men in black florida bill | Apr 16 15:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Linux.com :: Microsoft's 'Men in Black' kill Florida open standards ... | http://archive09.linux.com/feature/61481 | Apr 16 15:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Medical marijuana bills filed in Fla. House, Senate - HTHealth | http://health.heraldtribune.com/2012/01/09/medical-marijuana-bills-filed-in-fla-house-senate/ | Apr 16 15:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - FLA Politics:: Florida Political News: April 12, 2012 | http://www.flapolitics.com/diary/5993/florida-political-news-april-12-2012 | Apr 16 15:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Biden assures Democrats Obama will fight to win Florida | October ... | http://htpolitics.com/2011/10/28/biden-assures-democrats-obama-will-fight-to-win-florida/ | Apr 16 15:52 |
| iophk | Actually roblimo is doing flash for /. I wish he could do proper video instead. Flash is so last decade. | Apr 16 15:53 |
| iophk | http://www.roblimo.com/2012/03/welcome-to-slashdot-tv.html | Apr 16 15:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Robin 'Roblimo' Miller's Personal Site: Welcome to Slashdot TV! .::. Size~: 54.16 KB | Apr 16 15:53 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Everything you need to know about the privacy nightmares in #CISPA, the House 'cybersecurity' bill: https://eff.org/r.X79 | Apr 16 15:54 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Cybersecurity Bill FAQ: The Disturbing Privacy Dangers in CISPA and How To Stop It | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 43.4 KB | Apr 16 15:54 |
| schestowitz | He used to do that in linux.com also | Apr 16 15:54 |
| schestowitz | like interviews with some linux people | Apr 16 15:54 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] What's your awesome idea for promoting !FreeSoftware? Post it to the !LibrePlanet wiki: http://redd.it/scfw4 !GNU !FSF | Apr 16 15:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] Controlled wirelessly by tablet PC? Now this would be a worthy target for the ambitious script-kiddie: http://is.gd/PhjXF2 | Apr 16 15:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Dear #openStreetMap !lazyweb, is there a way to mark several places on one map in OSM? Not API-wise, I just need a map with a few points... | Apr 16 15:59 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Ideas for spreading free software | LibrePlanet wiki via reddit.com .::. Size~: 1.66 KB | Apr 16 15:59 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] Sometimes one should just #RTFM | Apr 16 16:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Consumer Financial Protection Bureau on open source and "growing the pie" by @ghelleks http://red.ht/IGluLb #opengov #gov20 #cfpb | Apr 16 16:02 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Show Congress the deluge of unnecessary data CISPA would send to the govt. Tweet with hashtags #CongressTMI & #CISPA https://eff.org/r.1X2 | Apr 16 16:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] RT @jerezim EU Internet & Telecoms Industry against #ACTA: http://ur1.ca/90iws #heavy #smellsgood #letsvote #ChangeCopyightNow | Apr 16 16:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] So here's an idea I might implement soon: make an #OSM-based service giving me a chance to mark a few places. Perfect for conferences abroad | Apr 16 16:14 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Join us in protesting #CISPA - here's how: https://eff.org/r.5XA #CongressTMI | Apr 16 16:19 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] #FTW! http://ur1.ca/90lpo | Apr 16 16:24 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] It must be April 1 - Microsoft Open Technologies Inc. http://ur1.ca/90lpu #fb #in | Apr 16 16:26 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Oops. cc +Markus Beckedahl http://ur1.ca/90lsw | Apr 16 16:35 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Owe @mcepl two emails. | Apr 16 16:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Research To "Reveal the Unseen World of Cookies" http://goo.gl/4C1iP | Apr 16 16:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] PressurePen: An open source, pressure-sensitive stylus| http://red.ht/IReRT2 | Apr 16 16:55 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] As #ACTA 1.0 Lies Dying, Are #G8 Countries Already Working On ACTA 2.0? - http://bit.ly/IOFlZQ they're certainly not giving up | Apr 16 16:59 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Internet to Congress: that's a little TMI. https://eff.org/r.4XC #CongressTMI Stop #CISPA | Apr 16 17:12 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Obama betrays the left; cheers continued expansion of drug war, criminalization of plant-based medicine http://goo.gl/o8Fp4 #cannabis | Apr 16 17:14 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] Microsoft fields tough questions about open culture at the company | Linux.com http://bit.ly/HHQyFP #linux | Apr 16 17:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Uh oh – the company that claims it invented the mobile Internet sells software businesses to focus on patents - http://tnw.co/J2vHNN risible | Apr 16 17:21 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Landtagswahlkampf: NRW-Piraten liebäugeln mit Regierungsverantwortung - - http://bit.ly/J2w6zT fascinating evolution | Apr 16 17:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #ACTA Edinburgh: David Martin's views - http://bit.ly/HOnVwz useful summary | Apr 16 17:22 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Nokia: Moody's Cuts Debt Rating; Not Quite Junk (Yet) - http://onforb.es/J5Dihs great moodies think alike | Apr 16 17:24 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Exposing ALEC: How Conservative-Backed State Laws Are All Connected - http://bit.ly/J2xZfQ important, amazing story (v @dozykraut) #us | Apr 16 17:27 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Playstation Vita already dropping to record low sales in Japan - http://bit.ly/IyyGfR #sony's deathmarch continues | Apr 16 17:29 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Pirate Party Sues Hollywood Backed Group over Pirate Bay Censorship - http://bit.ly/HHUMNI has #BREIN overreached? #nl | Apr 16 17:32 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] RT @harishpillay It must be April 1 - Microsoft Open Technologies Inc. http://ur1.ca/90lpu #fb #in | Apr 16 17:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Netflix Pledges to Open Source Its "Monkey" Cloud Utilities - http://bit.ly/IGOUc3 good to see | Apr 16 17:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Introduction to Wikimedia Labs - http://bit.ly/HZL1tT cool #wikipedia | Apr 16 17:37 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Supreme Court to Hear International #Copyright Exhaustion Case - http://bit.ly/IrtoF3 important first sale case #scotus | Apr 16 17:39 | |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/New-Mac-malware-exploits-old-Java-hole-1526519.html | Apr 16 17:40 |
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| DaemonFC | It's groundhog day! | Apr 16 17:40 |
| DaemonFC | https://support.apple.com/kb/HT5246 | Apr 16 17:42 |
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| DaemonFC | :) | Apr 16 17:42 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] New Blog Post | Repairing Unified Folders In #Thunderbird http://goo.gl/Za7Ph #fb | Apr 16 17:42 | |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Canonical-s-AWSOME-move-Amazon-tasks-sent-to-OpenStack-1539527.html | Apr 16 17:44 |
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| DaemonFC | Dawn is still driving her car around even though they suspended her license | Apr 16 17:46 |
| DaemonFC | she better hope they don't catch her doing that or it's another 6-12 months in jail | Apr 16 17:46 |
| schestowitz | it's not Dawn | Apr 16 17:50 |
| schestowitz | It's her exact clone | Apr 16 17:50 |
| schestowitz | maybe she'll just smoke more, for suicide that looks like natural death | Apr 16 17:51 |
| DaemonFC | she's coughing and wheezing a lot | Apr 16 17:51 |
| DaemonFC | I don't know if she'll live long enough to attend her DUI trial | Apr 16 17:51 |
| DaemonFC | of course I'll admit that I won't be broken up about any way she's gone, so long as she is gone | Apr 16 17:52 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] so they can learn the users secrets. farmers would too if they could speak cow... ~;-) | Apr 16 17:52 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Death on the installment plan. | Apr 16 17:53 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: It's sad that the government extracts so much tax money out of cigarettes | Apr 16 17:58 |
| DaemonFC | and then wants to charge people who smoke higher Medicare premiums because of the added healthcare expenses | Apr 16 17:59 |
| DaemonFC | you know that $3-12 a day for 30-40 years would cover just about any added expense they're likely to create | Apr 16 17:59 |
| DaemonFC | but the government has a knack for being able to waste money and come back to tax you more | Apr 16 18:00 |
| DaemonFC | and the more they tax you, the more they waste | Apr 16 18:00 |
| DaemonFC | it seems to scale indefinitely | Apr 16 18:00 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] "to monetize", v. - To license content to a corporation that will reap all the profits giving you naught in return http://ur1.ca/90mp1 | Apr 16 18:02 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Paramount Claims Louis CK "Didn't Monetize" - Slashdot .::. Size~: 231.23 KB | Apr 16 18:02 |
| iophk | "monetize" == turn over your material and all your money to the big studios | Apr 16 18:04 |
| iophk | and MPAA / RIAA | Apr 16 18:08 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] So, see you soon, @fxinternet, taking off of @lotniskochopina in 20min | Apr 16 18:12 | |
| TakinOver | DaemonFC: I don't know which country you're talking about, but US cigarette tax is not used to subsidize care for smokers. It is used for all sorts of other purposes, including "don't smoke" ads in mass media. | Apr 16 18:14 |
| DaemonFC | they waste pretty much all of it | Apr 16 18:14 |
| DaemonFC | and the don't smoke ads aren't funded by that | Apr 16 18:14 |
| DaemonFC | they're funded by a lawsuit settlement against the tobacco companies from the 1990s | Apr 16 18:15 |
| DaemonFC | they treat it like a slush fund | Apr 16 18:15 |
| DaemonFC | and then when all the money is spent, they want them to pay higher Medicare premiums too | Apr 16 18:15 |
| TakinOver | Yeah, even the settlement money is wasted. California (where I am) uses none of it for smokiing-related purposes. | Apr 16 18:16 |
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| DaemonFC | California has the lowest credit rating of any state in the US, iirc | Apr 16 18:17 |
| TakinOver | I'm not a smoker and I'm not a fan of it, but I've long said that singling smokers out for penalties is just practice for future 'segment and target' laws. | Apr 16 18:17 |
| DaemonFC | they even sent out IOUs instead of tax returns one year | Apr 16 18:17 |
| TakinOver | Yeah, I remember that. I was lucky enough to get my return before the IOUs went out. | Apr 16 18:18 |
| TakinOver | California's money troubles date back to Gov Brown's first term. That was where and when the real estate bubble started, but legislators refused to do anything to stop it because it raised property taxes. | Apr 16 18:19 |
| DaemonFC | apparently Indiana defines "Prohibited Smoking" under the new law as a Class B infraction | Apr 16 18:20 |
| DaemonFC | but if you get three of them, then further offenses are a Class A infraction | Apr 16 18:20 |
| TakinOver | So 'Proposition 13" capped how much property tax could rise while someone owned a property. Ever since, Sacramento has been the centralized distribution point for funding all state & local gov't. | Apr 16 18:21 |
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| DaemonFC | iirc, a class b infraction is a fine of up to $1,000 | Apr 16 18:22 |
| DaemonFC | and a class a infraction is up to $2,500 | Apr 16 18:22 |
| TakinOver | Prohibited smoking? Is that smoking inside a school or workplace? Or smoking where there is a 'no smoking' sign? | Apr 16 18:23 |
| DaemonFC | pretty much any public place now | Apr 16 18:24 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] SwitchPoint Conference brings innovators together to improve global health by @heatherlagarde | http://red.ht/HM778g | Apr 16 18:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: @mishadesterke tell me more! http://p.ost.im/p/ebbaLD | Apr 16 18:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Features — Fedora Repository http://goo.gl/fCbPy #floss "Fedora Repository Software" | Apr 16 18:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Speak Out Against #CISPA: Join The Twitter Campaign And Contact Your Representative http://goo.gl/97bEo | Apr 16 18:24 | |
| DaemonFC | including restaurants and bars | Apr 16 18:24 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Groupon celebrates Earth's 400th birthday (Storify): http://bit.ly/HZSauc | Apr 16 18:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Rackspace puts OpenStack to production work (Network World): http://bit.ly/I02FRE | Apr 16 18:26 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Groupon Shaves A Few Eons Off Earth's Age · roxannepalmer · Storify .::. Size~: 103.15 KB | Apr 16 18:26 |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/17/1769.asp | Apr 16 18:28 |
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| DaemonFC | from a few years ago | Apr 16 18:28 |
| DaemonFC | apparently you can get a $500 fine for honking your horn when it's not necessary | Apr 16 18:30 |
| DaemonFC | but only if you're on a highway | Apr 16 18:31 |
| schestowitz | java is so slow | Apr 16 18:37 |
| schestowitz | I'm installing confluence on my odl debian box, java makmes it halt | Apr 16 18:37 |
| DaemonFC | Apparently the high winds are causing power outages | Apr 16 18:42 |
| DaemonFC | that's Duke Energy for you though | Apr 16 18:42 |
| DaemonFC | a stiff breeze and you may be without power all day | Apr 16 18:42 |
| scientes | java is soooo slow | Apr 16 18:44 |
| scientes | i use netbeans from time to time, cause its great when looking at a new project, being able to jump to the declarations of functions immediately (with c/c++) | Apr 16 18:44 |
| schestowitz | i use openjdk | Apr 16 18:45 |
| scientes | same | Apr 16 18:45 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Those wonderful Free Marketeers, the #MPAA get more like fascists every day http://goo.gl/0H5Aq | Apr 16 18:46 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] & don't they just keep wonderful company⸮ http://goo.gl/bOVNm Wouldn't For-Profit Spies be tempted to make up info to pay the shareholders? | Apr 16 18:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] On this day in #history: Battle of #Culloden, 1746 http://goo.gl/fwF90 http://b1t.it/bj4q | Apr 16 18:56 | |
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| DaemonFC | the place that fired Dawn has been trying to send her last paycheck to her certified mail | Apr 16 19:02 |
| DaemonFC | the mail lady was just up here because Dawn never bothers to check her mail and they were about to send the check back | Apr 16 19:03 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Apr 16 19:03 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz Bet you she spends it all on booze and cigarettes and gives the landlord the run around for as long as he'll tolerate it without filing an eviction | Apr 16 19:06 |
| DaemonFC | he's let her slip 6-7 weeks before, so by the time he gets her out of here, she'll be ready to go to prison anyway | Apr 16 19:06 |
| *DaemonFC wonders why nobody gives him that much slack | Apr 16 19:07 | |
| DaemonFC | I forgot to pay my rent one week out of the 6 years I've lived here and I had him calling me up and panicking the next Monday about it | Apr 16 19:08 |
| schestowitz | maybe she's just older than you | Apr 16 19:12 |
| schestowitz | and maybe he has no high opinion of you | Apr 16 19:12 |
| DaemonFC | I pay him, she doesn't | Apr 16 19:13 |
| DaemonFC | I don't move people in who aren't on the lease | Apr 16 19:13 |
| DaemonFC | she does | Apr 16 19:13 |
| schestowitz | maybe she'll shave him | Apr 16 19:13 |
| DaemonFC | he gets frustrated with her a lot, but never does anything about it | Apr 16 19:13 |
| schestowitz | maybe he's rather have condoms all over his property than car poo | Apr 16 19:14 |
| schestowitz | *cat | Apr 16 19:14 |
| schestowitz | i can;'t leave the house today., I'm on duty 9:30am till 1:30am | Apr 16 19:16 |
| DaemonFC | oh, I doubt the tuna boat over there ever makes the men wear condoms | Apr 16 19:17 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Monday's security updates http://ur1.ca/90nit | Apr 16 19:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] I don't understand. Probably not. | Apr 16 19:17 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Whereas I try to explain the advantages of Open Data, Open Standards, Open Source thing in the government/public servi... http://b1t.it/bj4V | Apr 16 19:19 | |
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| sebsebseb | hi | Apr 16 19:20 |
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| schestowitz | [19:16] <DaemonFC> oh, I doubt the tuna boat over there ever makes the men wear condoms | Apr 16 19:26 |
| schestowitz | tuna boat?... | Apr 16 19:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Hey folks, we're doing a @Reddit AMA in support of our week long campaign against #CISPA. Ask us anything here: https://eff.org/r.4XE | Apr 16 19:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] "Web freedom faces greatest threat ever" http://identi.ca/url/68938085 #openweb | Apr 16 19:29 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Hey Reddit, this is EFF's activism team! We are starting a week long campaign against CISPA today - AMA : IAmA .::. Size~: 51.64 KB | Apr 16 19:29 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Do any animals live in the air and periodically breathe water? http://identi.ca/url/68961174 | Apr 16 19:32 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] [Concept] A Libre Gamer Network /by Nushio http://goo.gl/xR3Hr http://b1t.it/bj5h | Apr 16 19:39 | |
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| iophk | MS Office problem for OS X: | Apr 16 19:40 |
| iophk | http://securitywatch.pcmag.com/none/296667-mac-trojan-sabpub-exploits-java-and-microsoft-office | Apr 16 19:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Mac Trojan 'SabPub' Exploits Java and Microsoft Office .::. Size~: 100.26 KB | Apr 16 19:40 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] You don't have to do that; they exist on the Web. | Apr 16 19:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @evan some rockstars take enough drugs to live in a permanent state of flight & drink enough booze you'd think they breathe it if that count | Apr 16 19:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @evan Govts & Publishers are having another go at making the web read only, the way they always wanted it. Web clampdown 2.0 :( | Apr 16 19:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] The strange case of the physicist and the parking ticket he avoided http://goo.gl/qu187 http://b1t.it/bj5A | Apr 16 19:49 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Today: Temperature in Munich 6°C, Moscow 18°C. #justsayin | Apr 16 19:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Does an #eBay seller need the consent of a !copyright owner to import and resell books manufactured abroad? http://goo.gl/qbrft | Apr 16 19:59 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #KatyPerry and the military-pop-cultural complex http://gu.com/p/37vxx | Apr 16 20:17 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] So #Google and Oracle actually go to trial. It occurs to me, as long as Google win, no one will get hurt, not even ora... http://b1t.it/bj6k | Apr 16 20:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Tube is "a love letter to free software & open culture that marks their convergence w/independent filmmaking" http://kck.st/HLnAKm #CC BY-SA | Apr 16 20:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] 9 !Linux Transcoders http://goo.gl/bJ37s | Apr 16 20:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Check out "Tube" - new 3D animated short from makers of Elephants Dream at our @Kickstarter page: http://kck.st/e756JX #CC BY-SA | Apr 16 20:22 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] #Xiwtool http://goo.gl/bSlwE is new to me. It makes wireless networks easier on !Linux according to the write-up | Apr 16 20:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Internet to Congress: see what your cyber spying bill would create. https://eff.org/r.4XF #CongressTMI #CISPA | Apr 16 20:39 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Actually this http://goo.gl/2ikQm is sheer genius, by @knownasbowman: "Muslamic bloke walked past on tiptoes #creeping... http://b1t.it/bj6v | Apr 16 20:44 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: How Twitter users turned the tables on the English Defence League | Bim Adewunmi | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 243.62 KB | Apr 16 20:44 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Mantra Of The Digital Generation: Life, Liberty & Blazing Broadband - http://bit.ly/HNSiB2 most politicians struggle to understand this | Apr 16 20:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Have questions about #CISPA or anything else Internet-related? Ask us in our @reddit AMA going on right now: https://eff.org/r.4XG | Apr 16 20:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] Tutorial: Using KDE4 to manage complex workflows. http://ur1.ca/90oeh | Apr 16 20:47 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The Mantra Of The Digital Generation: Life, Liberty And Blazing Broadband | Techdirt .::. Size~: 59.17 KB | Apr 16 20:47 |
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| sebsebseb | gnufreex: Diablo-D3 MinceR schestowitz XFaCE cubefc1 cubezzz http://www.masswerk.at/googleBBS/ | Apr 16 20:52 |
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| sebsebseb | koolhead17: ^ | Apr 16 20:53 |
| sebsebseb | fewt: DrPizza ^ | Apr 16 20:53 |
| fewt | wat? | Apr 16 20:53 |
| sebsebseb | fewt: check that link out, quite interesting :) | Apr 16 20:53 |
| sebsebseb | in a way | Apr 16 20:53 |
| fewt | oh, saw it yesterday | Apr 16 20:53 |
| sebsebseb | oh | Apr 16 20:53 |
| sebsebseb | found out about it a little while ago | Apr 16 20:54 |
| fewt | ;) | Apr 16 20:54 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] The Naked Bible » Abortion, Luke 1:15, and Syntactical Databases http://goo.gl/CmfpP #religions | Apr 16 20:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @eff Have questions about #CISPA or anything else Internet-related? Ask us in our @reddit AMA going on right now: https://eff.org/r.4XG | Apr 16 20:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @eff Internet to Congress: see what your cyber spying bill would create. https://eff.org/r.4XF #CongressTMI #CISPA | Apr 16 20:54 | |
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| cubezzz | haha, neat | Apr 16 20:54 |
| sebsebseb | cubezzz: indeed | Apr 16 20:54 |
| fewt | I got me thinking that I could really write it as a door to the BBS I wrote years ago, but lost interest when the video ended. lol | Apr 16 20:54 |
| cubezzz | even better would be Google with c64 graphics :) | Apr 16 20:54 |
| sebsebseb | fewt: what is a BBS? | Apr 16 20:55 |
| sebsebseb | something computer | Apr 16 20:55 |
| sebsebseb | sounds kind of familur maye | Apr 16 20:55 |
| iophk | Bulletin Board System - - a type of text forum via modem | Apr 16 20:55 |
| fewt | sebsebseb: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulletin_board_system | Apr 16 20:56 |
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| sebsebseb | ah right bingo | Apr 16 20:56 |
| sebsebseb | yeah that's it | Apr 16 20:56 |
| sebsebseb | sounded familuar | Apr 16 20:56 |
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| schestowitz | hi sivoais | Apr 16 21:03 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Have questions about how #CISPA will affect your privacy on the Internet? We run down all its dangers here: https://eff.org/r.X79 | Apr 16 21:04 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] "6 Steps to Build Kindness and Resilience in Children with Dan Siegel | Dalai Lama Center for Peace and Education" http://ur1.ca/90oi5 | Apr 16 21:06 | |
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| sivoais | schestowitz: hello | Apr 16 21:07 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] The Authenticity of the James Ossuary Inscription: My Opinion is Shifting | PaleoBabble http://goo.gl/st9gi #religions | Apr 16 21:07 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The Authenticity of the James Ossuary Inscription: My Opinion is Shifting | PaleoBabble .::. Size~: 44.96 KB | Apr 16 21:07 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: sivoais | Apr 16 21:07 |
| sebsebseb | sivoais: did you mean to message me? | Apr 16 21:07 |
| sebsebseb | uh for schestowitz | Apr 16 21:08 |
| schestowitz | fitting java server applications to a 512MB+Celron server | Apr 16 21:08 |
| schestowitz | so crazy slow | Apr 16 21:08 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Contrived Truth is Still Truth: The Mind and Story of Erich von Daniken | PaleoBabble http://goo.gl/BzPqE #xfiles | Apr 16 21:09 | |
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| schestowitz | it's swapping like mad, the mouse hardly responds | Apr 16 21:10 |
| schestowitz | it's just for testing | Apr 16 21:11 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: Want to come to my Mageia release party? | Apr 16 21:11 |
| schestowitz | whereabouts and when? I'm in London next week | Apr 16 21:12 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: oh your in London next week, that's about two hours away from me | Apr 16 21:12 |
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| sebsebseb | by transport obviousdly :D | Apr 16 21:12 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: well going to do a talk ab out Mageia at a univeristy near me on Saturday 19th May it seems | Apr 16 21:12 |
| sebsebseb | and also have some people coming from other parts of the UK it seems :) | Apr 16 21:12 |
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| sebsebseb | and then book a resturant, and go out to eat after, that's the idea :) and if people want to they can go to the pub or whatever after woulds as well of course | Apr 16 21:13 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: maybe bring your girl down even, would be an accuse to look around Bristol with her | Apr 16 21:14 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is whistlewright from parlementum.net with 114 dents! | Apr 16 21:14 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] The Case of the Ancient Astronauts (BBC Horizon/PBS NOVA 1977) - YouTube http://goo.gl/TrjiE #xfiles | Apr 16 21:19 | |
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| schestowitz | I'm playing with confluence... | Apr 16 21:19 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: it's very far from where I am | Apr 16 21:20 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: yep I know | Apr 16 21:20 |
| schestowitz | we're going on a 10-day vacation next month | Apr 16 21:20 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: ,but some people are coming from far | Apr 16 21:20 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #smartphone vendors are missing a trick by not having a model called the #Move "access X on the Move" | Apr 16 21:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Nokia debt downgraded as company struggles http://goo.gl/FYpy0 these things tend to happen when #Microsoft eye your ass for a rimming | Apr 16 21:24 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] is #PatentTroll the corporate equivalent of #Zombie? life after death to target & suck the life out of every competing corp they touch | Apr 16 21:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] forgetomori » Time Traveler Caught in Museum Photo? http://goo.gl/Iema #funny | Apr 16 21:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] keep the zappers on the corpse if there's some way to use it as a patent troll, no need to be competitive, just employ lawyers | Apr 16 21:29 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Student Charged For Re-selling Textbooks http://goo.gl/umazn | Apr 16 21:31 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] RT @cwebber Tube launches its kickstarter campaign! !CC BY-SA licensed !blender open movie! Donate, for great justice! http://ur1.ca/90nmk | Apr 16 21:34 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] US Judge Forbids #Motorola From Using German Injunction Against #Microsoft - http://bit.ly/HN6trY patently insaner | Apr 16 21:37 | |
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| sebsebseb | schestowitz: you could come with your girl friend possbily | Apr 16 21:43 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: like I just suggested to someone else | Apr 16 21:43 |
| sebsebseb | for his | Apr 16 21:43 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] The Stupidity Of Data Caps: No One Knows What A Megabyte Is http://goo.gl/CBmVM | Apr 16 21:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Oracle accidentally release MySQL DoS proof of concept - The H Open Source: News and Features http://goo.gl/r9cbt | Apr 16 21:47 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Yeah, I'm really sorry about that. I'm not sure why it took so long to get you un-silenced. | Apr 16 21:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Wigan are determined to upset the apple cart on their fight for survival, good on em !football 2-1 up v #Arsenal at the Emirates | Apr 16 21:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Israeli soldier clubs Danish protester with rifle http://gu.com/p/37vxj cue Israel's "it didn't happen" then "he was a terrorist" response | Apr 16 21:52 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Mozilla announces Open Badges Beta - The H Open Source: News and Features http://goo.gl/alPIH #browserid | Apr 16 21:54 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] O2 Olympic venue in row over security against legal photography http://gu.com/p/36qn6 spirit of the games = #PoliceState | Apr 16 21:56 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Stefano Zacchiroli leads #Debian Project for a third year - The H Open Source: News and Features http://goo.gl/K4n6g | Apr 16 22:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @AnonyOps: Chicago Police to Use LRAD Sound Cannons at NATO Protests http://t.co/hLdQ92k7 fuck us all, they're turning into military. | Apr 16 22:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] the #PoliceState infrastructure justified by "Olympic security" will become the norm & the legacy for London post Olympics | Apr 16 22:04 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] If thr was a surgery that made U younger, stronger, faster: I might go 4 it, but wht we have now is just overpriced sk... http://b1t.it/bj7A | Apr 16 22:11 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] wheee! ♻ @jxself: Yay! #Trisquel #GNU #Linux version 5.5 is out: http://ur1.ca/90oyl | Apr 16 22:19 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Was that *really* a hologram? | Apr 16 22:54 | |
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| sebsebseb | hi nj3ma :) | Apr 16 22:58 |
| schestowitz | wb, nj3ma | Apr 16 22:59 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: Mandriva may as well die soon in a way, but this is a good blog post: http://www.indidea.org/gael/blog/?p=296 | Apr 16 22:59 |
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| MinceR | gn | Apr 16 23:03 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Colombia Rushes Through #Leylleras2 Copyright Reform - http://bit.ly/Is4ZiK highly regrettable #co | Apr 16 23:07 | |
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| schestowitz | hmm... nice page design /mejealous http://www.farmersalmanac.com/full-moon-dates-and-times/ | Apr 16 23:17 |
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| schestowitz | https://www.linux.com/news/featured-blogs/200-libby-clark/564056-microsoft-fields-tough-questions-about-open-culture-at-the-company | Apr 16 23:32 |
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| schestowitz | quoting Novell sstaff | Apr 16 23:32 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Introducing the Defensive Patent License, a new tool to protect open innovation from #patent threats. https://eff.org/r.4XH | Apr 16 23:42 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Create a Vignette in Gimp - Instagram Effect 1/3 http://j.mp/J71OPp | Apr 16 23:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] The Networked Toilet : Unlikely uses for a networking cable http://ur1.ca/90riw @dennismungai @eebrah | Apr 16 23:47 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Video: Australian AG grilled about Assange extradition #qanda http://t.co/nZPyMu86 #wikileaks | Apr 16 23:51 | |
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| cubezzz | was http://iowaconsumercase.org archived? | Apr 16 23:55 |
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| schestowitz | cubezzz: yes, there are mirrors | Apr 16 23:55 |
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| cubezzz | back in 2007 the register was saying the largest ever archive of Microsoft's dirty tricks was deleted | Apr 16 23:55 |
| schestowitz | like slated.org/antitrust (IIRC) | Apr 16 23:55 |
| cubezzz | looks like the domain expired | Apr 16 23:56 |
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| cubezzz | some of my old friends seem to have drunk the Microsoft Kool-aid :-/ | Apr 16 23:58 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] What he sez. http://ur1.ca/90rso | Apr 16 23:59 | |
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