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| DaemonFC | "schizophrenic" was also what the Soviets called their political prisoners as an excuse to incarcerate them | May 30 00:04 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Says @NeelieKroesEU: "When research is funded by the EU, we will require open access to the results" - http://goo.gl/CzRmK | May 30 00:04 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: EUROPA - Press Releases - Neelie Kroes Vice-President of the European Commission responsible for the Digital Agenda Making Open Access a reality for Science Publishing and the Ecology of European Research (PEER) Project Conference Brussels, 29 May 2012 .::. Size~: 29.16 KB | May 30 00:04 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Facebook perto dos 30 dólares já perde mais de 20 mil milhões desde IPO http://goo.gl/MUxNw #facebroke | May 30 00:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @eff Another blow to #ACTA in the EU: Dutch parliament votes against signing or ratifying it https://eff.org/r.a6ca h/t @bitsoffreedom | May 30 00:33 | |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Translations of Dutch parliamentary resolutions against ACTA « Bits of Freedom .::. Size~: 26.14 KB | May 30 00:33 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♻ @birgittaj Bradley Manning, America's martyr for open government | Birgitta Jónsdóttir http://www.ur1.ca/9en1i /via @guardian !freeBradley | May 30 00:36 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Bradley Manning, America's martyr for open government | Birgitta Jónsdóttir | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 240.75 KB | May 30 00:36 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Obama opens door to #Africa for #Monsanto http://goo.gl/1XOBO #ogm | May 30 00:39 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] What's new in Fedora 17 (The H) http://ur1.ca/9en2t | May 30 00:43 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: What's new in Fedora 17 (The H) [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 7.86 KB | May 30 00:43 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Poland beekeepers kick #Monsanto out of the hive, successfully ban bee-killing GM corn http://goo.gl/0XUYz #gmo | May 30 00:46 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #FDA tests Adya Clarity, confirms high level of aluminum, multiple label violations http://goo.gl/9Ur4Q #food | May 30 00:49 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: FDA tests Adya Clarity, confirms high level of aluminum, multiple label violations .::. Size~: 94.35 KB | May 30 00:49 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #ACTA: Unredacted Docs Show European Commission Negotiation Failures | TorrentFreak http://goo.gl/U40H4 | May 30 00:51 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: ACTA: Unredacted Docs Show European Commission Negotiation Failures | TorrentFreak .::. Size~: 31.51 KB | May 30 00:51 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Footage Reveals Terrorists' Role in Houla Massacre -- Puppet Masters -- Sott.net http://goo.gl/rMmZY #Syria | May 30 01:08 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Footage Reveals Terrorists' Role in Houla Massacre -- Puppet Masters -- Sott.net .::. Size~: 59.23 KB | May 30 01:08 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] #ACTA negotiation notes made public today reveal disproportionate US influence & failures of European Commission https://eff.org/r.a6cc | May 30 01:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] HTML Media Capture Draft Published http://ow.ly/1k4pmi | May 30 01:09 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] Three documents published by the Web Applications Working Group http://ow.ly/1k4pmj | May 30 01:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] UK Government Consultation on Open Standards http://ow.ly/1k4pli | May 30 01:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] Two Last Call Working Drafts published by the RDB2RDF Working Group http://ow.ly/1k4pmh | May 30 01:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] listening to @jessebrown Audio Podcast #139: Interview with Byron Sonne http://www.ur1.ca/9en6x !freebyron #byronIsFree via @KateMilberry | May 30 01:11 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] "I have a responsibility to my fellow citizens to make sure that this doesn't happen to anybody else…"~Byron Sonne http://www.ur1.ca/9en6x | May 30 01:33 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Audio Podcast #139: Interview with Byron Sonne | Search Engine .::. Size~: 56.29 KB | May 30 01:33 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @digitante Lib-Ray #drmfree #video format #kickstarter is at 82% now. A little over $3300 to go in 4 days - http://is.gd/PBB4Qs #fb | May 30 01:34 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Hey !Canada . . . support Lib-Ray #drmfree #video format - we'll need it after they pass !C11 #kickstarter http://is.gd/PBB4Qs !CDNpoli | May 30 01:39 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @evan participative and ephemeral #casseroles? We make casseroles to feed families with new babies or sickness here, is that what you mean? | May 30 02:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♻ @pussreboots The PussReboots Daily is out! http://www.ur1.ca/8w50l ▸ Top stories today via @laurelrusswurm @boltcity @adampknave | May 30 02:16 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @evan As an obtuse Ontarian I must ask if that's a by-product of the Student Strike or a Rite of Spring | May 30 02:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] 2012-Jun-04: Addison Phillips, Chair of the Internationalization Core Working Group, gives a talk entitled: "Intern... http://ow.ly/1k5auA | May 30 02:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] 2012-Jun-04: Richard Ishida gives a talk entitled: "An Introduction to Writing Systems and Unicode" http://ow.ly/1k5auy | May 30 02:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] 2012-Jun-04: Richard Ishida and Addison Phillips, Chair of the Internationalization Core Working Group, give a talk... http://ow.ly/1k5auz | May 30 02:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Wow, that's *awesome* ♻ @xopher It's part student tuition protest and part protest against law #78 - http://xfr.to/m !CDNpoli #education | May 30 02:38 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Apple's devices are like beautiful crystal prisons https://eff.org/r.2abV | May 30 02:51 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Apple's Crystal Prison and the Future of Open Platforms | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 52.78 KB | May 30 02:51 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @eff Apple's devices are like beautiful crystal prisons https://eff.org/r.2abV | May 30 03:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Our friends BORDC on the privacy threats posed by domestic drones and how @EFF is shedding light on the issue https://eff.org/r.a9cd | May 30 03:56 | |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: People's Blog for the Constitution » Of course drones in America will be used judiciously by local authorities .::. Size~: 44.41 KB | May 30 03:56 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] RT @brettcsmith Terms on the radio exam: RMS and ESR. (Root-Mean-Square and Equivalent Series Resistance, respectively.) | May 30 04:08 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #SirTerryPratchett wins Wodehouse comic fiction award http://goo.gl/Q8X64 \o/ #Discworld #Snuff | May 30 04:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Political Campaigns Mining Online Data To Target Voters http://is.gd/2QkFXW | May 30 04:14 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] If People Won't Pay A Monthly Fee For #Facebook, Why Would They Pay For Newspapers? http://is.gd/LJN89b | May 30 04:16 | |
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| DaemonFC | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kudzu_in_the_United_States | May 30 04:17 |
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| DaemonFC | Ubuntu had something called Kudzu a while back which made me laugh | May 30 04:18 |
| DaemonFC | it's considered a weed and a serious pest here | May 30 04:18 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] The Idea That Women Need More Patents, Copyrights And Trademarks Shows Up In Newly Proposed Law http://is.gd/AJX1N0 | May 30 04:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Netflix agrees to delete data on ex-customers http://is.gd/SVcLyc | May 30 04:21 | |
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| scientes | MinceR, can you unban cpe-76-94-235-83.socal.res.rr.com | May 30 04:36 |
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| scientes | hmm he left | May 30 04:38 |
| scientes | he said he couldn't join this channel | May 30 04:38 |
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| epikvision | Hello guys | May 30 04:39 |
| scientes | oh hey | May 30 04:39 |
| epikvision | I just came from the ubuntu-us-ca | May 30 04:39 |
| epikvision | hi sciente | May 30 04:39 |
| epikvision | s | May 30 04:39 |
| epikvision | ok, I'll start again. | May 30 04:39 |
| epikvision | Upon returning from UDS, I had a feeling to change my high school - it's in Los Angeles - from windows xp to linux | May 30 04:40 |
| epikvision | it's been 2 weeks now, and during those two weeks, I've been blogging daily about this idea. | May 30 04:40 |
| epikvision | I teamed up with the school's tech guru, whose a senior and leaving soon, and we decided to band up. | May 30 04:41 |
| *epikvision just repeated himself. forgive him | May 30 04:41 | |
| epikvision | just yesterday, I created an open group on facebook called Ubuntu for Students. | May 30 04:42 |
| epikvision | and in a matter of hours, we already have 200 members, most of whom are from our school | May 30 04:42 |
| epikvision | besides, I'm trying to target them, and sway their opinions. | May 30 04:42 |
| scientes | its only sensible to have students use operating systems of which it is legal to study | May 30 04:42 |
| epikvision | legal to study? | May 30 04:43 |
| scientes | it is illegal to reverse disassemble closed source software | May 30 04:43 |
| scientes | (not to mention basically impossible to modify) | May 30 04:43 |
| epikvision | what's that mean? | May 30 04:43 |
| scientes | linux is free software, meaning it has the 4 freedoms | May 30 04:43 |
| scientes | http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html | May 30 04:44 |
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| epikvision | yes | May 30 04:44 |
| epikvision | are you saying that it's not possible to have the school consider adopting ubuntu? | May 30 04:45 |
| scientes | and free software is the only that you are able to understand and study | May 30 04:45 |
| scientes | not at all | May 30 04:45 |
| scientes | i'm saying that you cannot, both technically, and legally, understand windows | May 30 04:45 |
| epikvision | ahhhhh | May 30 04:46 |
| scientes | how it functions | May 30 04:46 |
| epikvision | right, it's a valuable point to make to those biased minds. | May 30 04:46 |
| epikvision | is it possible, scientes, if you can join our group Ubuntu for students? | May 30 04:46 |
| epikvision | I'm in dire need to combat tremendous waves of opposition right now | May 30 04:46 |
| epikvision | very conservative lot that I'm facing. | May 30 04:47 |
| epikvision | in fact, i'll post a link. | May 30 04:47 |
| scientes | #ubuntu-us-ca is good | May 30 04:48 |
| epikvision | https://www.facebook.com/groups/jhms.ubuntu/ | May 30 04:48 |
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| scientes | there is partimus, which installs edubuntu for schools | May 30 04:48 |
| scientes | they've mainly done private schools, but would love to get into public school | May 30 04:48 |
| epikvision | Liz tells me that partimus doesn't reach sourthern california | May 30 04:49 |
| scientes | embracing Free and Open Source Software in schools would clearly support the study and understanding of computers, end the subsidized and invaluable promotion they are giving to propritary software, and is promotes democracy as FOSS is all of our's operating system b/c it is built by all of us | May 30 04:51 |
| epikvision | How can I reference to you about this? I have to share this on the group | May 30 04:54 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: .@yvesblondeel Internet is like water, is like electricity highway, is like champagne. http://p.ost.im/p/etGC9j | May 30 04:54 | |
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| DaemonFC | LOL | May 30 06:14 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Thai webmaster #Jiew given suspended sentence fine for hosting comments offensive to the King. #freejiew | May 30 06:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #SamPage on #RatHoleRadio kinda has the #Gomez feel about it \o\ /o/ | May 30 06:39 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #RobertMugabe asked to be UN 'leader for tourism' http://is.gd/hSZ7pi wtf? | May 30 06:54 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] America's murderous drone campaign is fuelling terror http://is.gd/ZaWMB4 | May 30 06:56 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] I wondered if hard-up #BBC was filming relay with traffic cameras http://is.gd/Ml5JjC #London2012 | May 30 07:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Hello, thanks for interest. Yes, I am. Monarchy restoration is CRUCIAL for Romania, if one understands political context... | May 30 07:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @gijs Belgian province of Luxembourg installs its own open source telephony #joinup http://ur1.ca/9eopu | May 30 07:06 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] How Much Would It Cost To Pre-Screen #YouTube Videos? About $37 Billion Per Year... http://is.gd/jVZBzR | May 30 07:14 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Fedora performs a Beefy Miracle, releases version 17 http://ur1.ca/9eoxv #gnu #linux #fedora #foss | May 30 07:39 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Dutch parliament prohibits government from signing or ratifying #ACTA . In NL: http://ur1.ca/9ep0e... http://b1t.it/bw8S | May 30 07:43 | |
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| MinceR | nice | May 30 07:46 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Belgian province of Luxembourg installs its own open source telephony http://ur1.ca/9eopu #belgia #telephony #telecom #foss | May 30 07:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Yes, I agree with this. http://ur1.ca/9ep2l http://ur1.ca/9ep2m... http://b1t.it/bxmr | May 30 07:48 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] discovery of the day: my local corner shop does a rather tasty sausage & onion roll :D #result | May 30 09:16 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Linux kernel devs, Samba join GPL compliance effort http://ur1.ca/9eplq #gpl #gnu #linux #samba | May 30 09:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The Beefy Miracle Offically Served http://ur1.ca/9epmz #fedora #gnu #linux #redhat | May 30 09:26 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Official Google Blog crashes my main browser and serves blank pages to another. What a pile of garbage. Same w/ Android Blog (must use JS). | May 30 09:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Some people trust Google to take care of the Internet (because they got Cerf?), but since early days they didn't stick to Web standards | May 30 09:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Google supports new Web technologies when it makes sense for shareholders, e.g. pushing Chrome everywhere, SPDY,swpats tax-free YouTube vids | May 30 09:33 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1661135 | May 30 09:34 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Can Ubuntu Be What Everyone Would Use? http://lxer.com/module/newswire/view/167513/index.html #ubuntu #gnu #linux | May 30 09:34 |
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| schestowitz | "GIMP = photoshop If GIMP does not = photoshop then we should change that so that GIMP = better than photoshop. Like how Ubuntu 12.04 is so much better than any other OS. It's now so much better that I can say with confidence that someone is foolish for not using it. I just need to learn programming so I can contribute more instead of just blabbing and putting the burden on others" | May 30 09:34 |
| schestowitz | " | May 30 09:34 |
| schestowitz | Quote "I don't think any linux desktop has given us the ultimate beauty. The most closest to perfection being default gnome 3 desktop." | May 30 09:34 |
| schestowitz | And many hate Gnome 3 with a passion. Long may we continue to have choice, instead of being stuck with a single idea of how the desktop (and the OS underneath) should be. | May 30 09:34 |
| schestowitz | " | May 30 09:34 |
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| schestowitz | "thought so too lol" https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1662172 | May 30 09:36 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Old Novell: Fighting Microsoft; New Novell: Advancing Microsoft http://techrights.org/2012/05/29/advancing-microsoft/ #novell #unix #linux #mono #antitrust | May 30 09:36 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1652380 | May 30 09:37 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Let's just *pretend* there is something open source-y about giving our data to some company, somewhere, in the 'cloud' http://www.geek.com/articles/news/grive-a-free-open-source-google-drive-client-has-arrived-on-linux-20120524/ | May 30 09:37 |
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| schestowitz | "If using gmail is a bad idea, what mail services would you recommend using? It is an interesting problem, but as people have told me before, if you are THAT concerned about the privacy of the data you are sending out, you should not post it online. As HONEST ANNIE said, encryption only works to a point, and it can be broken. I find that this applies to viruses especially if you are using a Windows system, if you are worried about | May 30 09:39 |
| schestowitz | getting them, don't go online." | May 30 09:39 |
| schestowitz | "Not sending it totally defeats the point. It is like saying if you worry about the war you might kill yourself. My point is that the internet is an infrastructure which needs certain rules to be trusted and best working for all parties. Spying is definitely a bad drive. This guy has done the right thing: http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-57412225-281/this-internet-provider-pledges-to-put-your-privacy-first-always/ But if you just want | May 30 09:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: This Internet provider pledges to put your privacy first. Always. | Privacy Inc. - CNET News .::. Size~: 97.7 KB | May 30 09:39 |
| schestowitz | to consume some solution, freedom does not fall out of heaven. We need distributed technology, non-profit providers and a lot more to untie the internet. There is no silver-bullet imo. Mail is p2p like this very service we are talking through." | May 30 09:39 |
| schestowitz | Private jabber networks with enc. can serve well | May 30 09:40 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Netherlands Pre-Warns #EU Parliament That It Will Not Accept #ACTA http://is.gd/RCADJj | May 30 09:41 | |
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| MinceR | r4wr | May 30 09:45 |
| MinceR | http://media.caglecartoons.com/media/cartoons/104/2012/05/26/112459_600.jpg | May 30 09:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting image/jpeg type | May 30 09:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Another nice IKEA Hack: Expedit racks for us geeks. http://ur1.ca/9ept6 http://www... http://b1t.it/bxo3 | May 30 09:59 | |
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| *DaemonFC signs MinceR up for Facebook and posts pictures of Richard Stallman on that page | May 30 10:01 | |
| DaemonFC | they should ask Hungary to invest in Facebook | May 30 10:02 |
| DaemonFC | Hungary already throws money into the fire | May 30 10:02 |
| DaemonFC | http://articles.businessinsider.com/2012-02-09/europe/31040467_1_heating-costs-afp-central-bank | May 30 10:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Hungary's Central Bank Is Burning Money To Help The Poor In The Cold Snap - Business Insider .::. Size~: 30.59 KB | May 30 10:03 |
| schestowitz | http://ever-increasing-entropy.blogspot.co.uk/2012/05/jobs-that-nobody-qualifies-for.html | May 30 10:04 |
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| DaemonFC | "The process is carried out under tight security. People working here have to wear pocketless clothes." | May 30 10:05 |
| DaemonFC | She hid the money WHERE? :) | May 30 10:05 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: Orban effigies don't burn on their own | May 30 10:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Facebook [IMG] http://ur1.ca/9epux | May 30 10:06 | |
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| DaemonFC | maybe that's what Dawn has been stretching it out all these years for | May 30 10:07 |
| DaemonFC | she could smuggle out a few hundred billion forints in there | May 30 10:07 |
| DaemonFC | hose them all down with spring fresh air freshener so nobody asks if they were kept in the cargo hold of a fishing boat | May 30 10:08 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Open Source #WordPress Turns Nine as 3.4 Release Nears http://ur1.ca/9epvz I got involved in it 8 years ago | May 30 10:11 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Fedora 17 KDE Live CD Screenshot Tour http://ur1.ca/9epwc #gnu #linux | May 30 10:13 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Kaspersky antivirus use Linux to rescue Windows http://ur1.ca/9epxg #gnu #linux | May 30 10:16 | |
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| DaemonFC | Linux-based antivirus live cds are not uncommon | May 30 10:17 |
| DaemonFC | <schestowitz> DaemonFC: Orban effigies don't burn on their own | May 30 10:18 |
| DaemonFC | that's ok, MinceR can torch one | May 30 10:19 |
| DaemonFC | he has freedom of spee......uhhhm | May 30 10:19 |
| DaemonFC | moving on.... | May 30 10:19 |
| MinceR | :> | May 30 10:19 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Enyo's End Is Not Nigh http://ur1.ca/9epyp #webos #linux #enyo | May 30 10:19 | |
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| DaemonFC | I guess I can wait for the drought to end so the burn ban is no longer in effect | May 30 10:20 |
| DaemonFC | and then I can burn one on MinceR's behalf | May 30 10:20 |
| DaemonFC | I'm waiting for some Chinese Sumac I cut down to dry out, so I'll just stuff him in with that to get it going | May 30 10:21 |
| DaemonFC | the smell will be much more authentic that way | May 30 10:21 |
| MinceR | :> | May 30 10:23 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Just because you know how to switch Power on and off doesn't make you a power user ;-) | May 30 10:33 | |
| DaemonFC | the box for the DirecTV crap should be here today | May 30 10:33 |
| DaemonFC | now I have to figure out where to take it | May 30 10:33 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Translations (and links to the original dutch text) of the resolutions carried by the dutch parliament against #ACTA h... http://b1t.it/bxpN | May 30 10:43 | |
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| schestowitz | "@Bugs Bane Yep, I largely agree. I don't know the context of the "Yes" answer, maybe it really was just because of the guy trolling. Sometimes you have draw lines, you cannot include every interest in your argument. But your questions are important and I agree." https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1641490 | May 30 10:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Why Freedom of Thought Requires Free Media and Why Free Media Require Free Technology http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKOk4Y4inVY #fsf #freedom | May 30 10:50 |
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| schestowitz | "What's your main browser, Roy?" https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1664049 | May 30 10:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Official Google Blog crashes my main browser and serves blank pages to another. What a pile of garbage. Same w/ Android Blog (must use JS). | May 30 10:50 |
| schestowitz | Knqueror, then rekonq, thunderbrowse and firefox | May 30 10:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @mvlb @philrollez Finally a foursquare tweet I find worthy to retweet ;) | May 30 11:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @fdgraeve @annabelle__s Met heel #iSoc12 (http://t.co/90EX3YPn). 20 mensen, kan je dat aan? | May 30 11:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @mvlb: I just ousted @philrollez as the mayor of NMBS / SNCB on @foursquare! http://t.co/44LVvJaw | May 30 11:03 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] Microsoft's new EULAs prohibit customers from joining forces for class action lawsuits http://ur1.ca/9eqs1 | May 30 11:09 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] My Fedora 17 DVD download will finish sooner than the live CD o_O thank you downthemall for messing that one up | May 30 11:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Google Launches Faster, Meaner Chromebooks http://ur1.ca/9equy #linux #chromeos | May 30 11:16 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Why is Clark from the @LinuxFoundation keeping on banging on this whole "cloud" BS 24/7? Linux.com should cover openness/freedom merits. | May 30 11:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ACTA: La Quadrature's voting recommendations to LIBE, ITRE and JURI committees http://ur1.ca/9ek3m #acta | May 30 11:26 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Kroes: Next steps on #NetNeutrality – making sure you get champagne service if that’s what you’re paying for http://ur1.ca/9eqxr | May 30 11:28 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 22-inch Android ICS 'tablet,' promises more at #Computex http://ur1.ca/9eqy8 "powered by what appears to be Ice Cream Sandwich. " | May 30 11:29 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: ViewSonic teases 22-inch Android ICS 'tablet,' promises more at Computex -- Engadget .::. Size~: 65.17 KB | May 30 11:29 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #LG unveils 5-inch HD LCD screen http://ur1.ca/9eqyq #linux only, better than #apple #hypePhone | May 30 11:31 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Today Julian #Assange shows that "Justice" is "Just Us", where "Us" are the owners of the world, who also destroy it for profit. | May 30 11:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Facebook and #Opera in a nutshell: dead fish swallows dead fish. | May 30 11:36 | |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/94135673 | May 30 11:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Dr. Roy Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Wednesday, 30-May-12 10:34:21 UTC - Identi.ca: Julian #Assange found guilty of being awesome! #WIKILEAKS | May 30 11:39 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Apache JMeter 2.7 measured up http://ur1.ca/9er1g #jmeter | May 30 11:44 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] What's new in Fedora 17 http://ur1.ca/9er39 #fedora | May 30 11:51 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Fedora 17 & GNOME 3.4: Return to a useful Linux desktop (Review) http://ur1.ca/98s50 the obligatory cloudwashing http://ur1.ca/9er3i | May 30 11:53 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Fedora 17 & GNOME 3.4: Return to a useful Linux desktop (Review) | ZDNet .::. Size~: 241.02 KB | May 30 11:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Fedora 17 Takes to the Cloud | PCWorld Business Center .::. Size~: 74.01 KB | May 30 11:53 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/94135780 | May 30 11:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Sander (sandersch)'s status on Wednesday, 30-May-12 10:39:16 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz that's nice "Just us" = the rich | May 30 11:54 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Google had violated its quality guidelines," http://ur1.ca/9er3w the hypocrisy of Google on standards | May 30 11:56 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Matt Cutts - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 37.96 KB | May 30 11:56 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Our deputy PM "drunkenly set fire to what he called "the leading collection of cacti in Germany"." http://ur1.ca/9er4e #ukriots #hypocrisy | May 30 11:59 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #RedHat Recognizes Student, Itamar Reis Peixoto http://ur1.ca/9er5s some recruitment PR to accompany the new #fedora release | May 30 12:04 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Red Hat Recognizes Student, Itamar Reis Peixoto, for Contributions to Fedora and Open Source Software - MarketWatch .::. Size~: 93.44 KB | May 30 12:04 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: you've heard of sponsored runs, sponsored animals... now sponsor a metre of fibre duct h http://p.ost.im/p/enMAuK | May 30 12:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: Lots of good ideas to help start-ups here - congratulations to the winners http://t.co/c http://p.ost.im/p/en4Pga | May 30 12:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] GameStop Rolls Out #Android Tablets With Pre-Loaded Games To 1,600 Stores http://ur1.ca/9er6i who said #linux is not for #games ? | May 30 12:06 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The best idea wins: Jim Whitehurst on the Red Hat meritocracy http://ur1.ca/9er7s #redhat #linux | May 30 12:09 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Mark "dumb fucks" #Zuckerberg wants to get into your pocket before he goes into your knickers http://ur1.ca/9er8i | May 30 12:13 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Why Zuck will go soft for Facebook Phone - and rebrand Android • The Register .::. Size~: 26.48 KB | May 30 12:13 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Sony flavors its 2011 phones with Ice Cream Sandwich http://ur1.ca/9er9l but it still tastes bitter because of the #SCOny brand | May 30 12:18 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Sony flavors its 2011 phones with Ice Cream Sandwich | Internet & Media - CNET News .::. Size~: 87.56 KB | May 30 12:18 |
| MinceR | i thought he wanted to get into people's ears, not knickers :> | May 30 12:18 |
| MinceR | what a coincidence -- the phone does get close to the user's ear... | May 30 12:18 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Why is the decision of the dutch parliament wrt #ACTA so important? According to Wikipedia:"The European Union and i... http://b1t.it/bxsr | May 30 12:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] College not an option for this whiz kid http://ur1.ca/9era0 "Kumaran wants to make #Linux more popular for desktops" | May 30 12:19 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Jan Wildeboer - Google+ - Why is the decision of the dutch parliament wrt #ACTA so… .::. Size~: 149.11 KB | May 30 12:19 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Dell #ARM Servers Promote Ubuntu, Hadoop Partnerships http://ur1.ca/9eraw http://ur1.ca/9erax http://ur1.ca/9eray | May 30 12:23 | |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Canonical releases EC2 image for Ubuntu ARM Server - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 40.41 KB | May 30 12:23 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Gupta suffers two big blows in his insider-trading trial http://ur1.ca/9erbb #crime #whitecollar #goldmansachs #fraud #theft | May 30 12:24 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Gupta suffers two big blows in his insider-trading trial - The Globe and Mail .::. Size~: 99.52 KB | May 30 12:24 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "The worst corruption in the world is on Wall Street." http://ur1.ca/9erbk they go after #assange for actually exposing biggest criminals | May 30 12:26 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Interview with Randy Wray, Regarding the Next Crisis (Part 2) | Mecpoc .::. Size~: 37.88 KB | May 30 12:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Facebook/Zuckerface got sued for allegedly playing a game with #GoldmanSachs to defraud gullible investors out of their money. | May 30 12:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] We are constantly told that after the #bailout (robbery by the rich, a euphemism) the public is not going to be sold guaranteed "crap" deals | May 30 12:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] Sure. Software EULAs read much like major label contracts in music - "you're screwed", repeated over 20 pages. | May 30 12:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] When will there be a trial to extradite #blankfein to #greece ? Oh, sorry, I forgot extradition is just for poor people... silly me. :-) | May 30 12:31 | |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/94136507 | May 30 12:34 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Jose R Rodriguez (metztli)'s status on Wednesday, 30-May-12 11:06:06 UTC - Identi.ca: easing !Debian -based private #cloud we help resisting lure of giving up our #freedoms in exchange of some flexibility http://ur1.ca/93k5q | May 30 12:34 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[docufoundation/@docufoundation] The Document Foundation announces LibreOffice 3.5.4 with significant performance improvements: http://ur1.ca/9erct | May 30 12:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] How to get people to code for free? Label it "Code for America" (pseudo-kinship/patriotism) http://ur1.ca/9ercz | May 30 12:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Let's evoke military terms, too. "Brigade" http://ur1.ca/9erde light 'em up, Colonel. | May 30 12:34 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #GOP announces war on "them dem liberals." Democrats will "save us from the Republicans". Enough UsefulIdiots{tm} wage wars for fake camps. | May 30 12:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Julian Assange loses appeal against extradition http://identi.ca/url/70106931 !wl | May 30 12:38 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 2012 Election:vote to approve one of two multi-millionaire speakers who will read speeches written by other people on policies they're given | May 30 12:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Reshared post from Krystal Heather http://ur1.ca/9ergq | May 30 12:53 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] 10 Classic UNIX and C #Programming #Books to Enrich Your Library http://goo.gl/k8K2Z | May 30 12:58 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] "Julian Assange loses extradition case – live coverage | Media | http://identi.ca/url/1313" from http://identi.ca/url/70107480 | May 30 13:18 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Christine #Lagarde manda pagar impostos mas não paga - Expresso.pt http://goo.gl/43jmQ #hypocrisy #crooks #tptb | May 30 13:26 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Revealed: 1957 #CIA- #MI6 plot to terrorise #Syria, spark fake revolution and assassinate leadership -- Sott http://goo.gl/Q5aSt #usa #mic | May 30 13:28 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @docufoundation The Document Foundation announces LibreOffice 3.5.4 with significant performance improvements: http://ur1.ca/9erct | May 30 13:34 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] RT @grote The #EFF about #Apple's Crystal Prison and the Future of Open Platforms http://b1t.it/bxrh #wortharead !fsfe | May 30 13:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[siltaar/@siltaar] WikiLeaks: 543d of banking blockade - no process ; Assange: 540d detainment - no charge ; Manning: 737d in jail - no trial wikileaks.org !wl | May 30 13:48 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] What's a @BeefyMiracle anyway? The story of the #Fedora 17 release name - @cdgrams explains | http://red.ht/LT0MYB #opensource | May 30 14:01 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] RT @grote The #EFF about #Apple's Crystal Prison and the Future of Open Platforms http://b1t.it/bxrh #wortharead !fsfe | May 30 14:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] The future is here. remoteStorage by #unhosted , data at owncube.com which uses ownCloud, sharing with sharedstuff.or... http://b1t.it/bxuY | May 30 14:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] we've gone from "not enough design" to "design wankery" in software. hipster design is a plague. | May 30 14:14 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Etherpad Lite plugs in video conferencing and more - The H Open Source: News and Features http://goo.gl/gHU7Q #floss | May 30 14:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Dell to create its own #ARM server ecosystem - The H Open Source: News and Features http://goo.gl/cMnnC #gnulinux | May 30 14:31 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] How Much Would It Cost To Pre-Screen YouTube Videos? About $37 Billion Per Year... - http://bit.ly/JUStY1 spare a fiver, guv? | May 30 14:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] And in comes the advertising on Googleplus. It is called "Local". | May 30 14:38 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Is Photographing A Meal 'Taking Intellectual Property Away' From A Chef? - http://bit.ly/KW9Jw6 I have no words | May 30 14:41 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] my, the new #bitly is truly of the canine species; I've only just started using it, and I hate it with a hatred already... | May 30 14:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jrepin/@jrepin] Jure Repinc (JLP) is attending Sestanek Piratske stranke. | May 30 14:48 | |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: I guess you have seen that mono project lead giving up on silver-lie | May 30 15:04 |
| MinceR | yes | May 30 15:04 |
| qU1j0t3 | what can we learn from this | May 30 15:04 |
| MinceR | dunno | May 30 15:05 |
| MinceR | even a broken clock is right twice a day? | May 30 15:05 |
| qU1j0t3 | i don't think the decision is based on any insight. | May 30 15:06 |
| qU1j0t3 | it's just a forced decision based on reality... along the lines of "oh we ran out of oil so we can't use oil any more" | May 30 15:06 |
| *ChanServ gives channel operator status to MinceR | May 30 15:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] RT @glynmoody Is Photographing A Meal 'Taking Intellectual Property Away' From A Chef? - http://bit.ly/KW9Jw6 I have no words | May 30 15:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Survival Blogs – http://ur1.ca/9esd6 » Family Preparedness News and Information http://goo.gl/69DI3 | May 30 15:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] 24 hours to fire the Minister for Murdoch - http://bit.ly/KHZcYE here's an amusing little #epetition some of you may care to support | May 30 15:06 | |
| qU1j0t3 | Nobody could have anticipated a problem with Silverlight! | May 30 15:06 |
| qU1j0t3 | *Nobody* | May 30 15:07 |
| MinceR | well, it's impossible to anticipate something after it has already happened | May 30 15:08 |
| MinceR | m$ gave up on silver lie ages ago | May 30 15:09 |
| qU1j0t3 | but how could NOBODY in the open source community have predicted this? | May 30 15:09 |
| qU1j0t3 | fools | May 30 15:09 |
| MinceR | what has mono got to do with the "open source" community? | May 30 15:09 |
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| formic_ | mono *is* open source | May 30 15:10 |
| formic_ | just happens to be patent encumbered | May 30 15:10 |
| oiaohm | formic_: might be patented encumbered. | May 30 15:11 |
| oiaohm | formic_: the issue is no one knows for sure. | May 30 15:11 |
| MinceR | afaik the "open source community" is not all about serving the m$ agenda | May 30 15:11 |
| formic_ | just because ms is involved doesn't negate the fact the code is open source | May 30 15:12 |
| formic_ | ms is involved in kernel dev | May 30 15:12 |
| formic_ | does that mean linux is non free? | May 30 15:12 |
| MinceR | i wouldn't call that "involvement" | May 30 15:13 |
| MinceR | it's a PR sugarcoat around an act of pushing their own agenda | May 30 15:13 |
| MinceR | also, notice that i didn't talk about what licensing the code got, but what the intention of the project is. | May 30 15:14 |
| MinceR | and "free" is yet another term you're mixing in | May 30 15:14 |
| formic_ | there is nothing wrong with the project itself, its the patents | May 30 15:14 |
| MinceR | so you say | May 30 15:15 |
| formic_ | what about DotGNU | May 30 15:15 |
| formic_ | is the FSF pushing MS agenda? | May 30 15:15 |
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| MinceR | it's dead | May 30 15:15 |
| MinceR | and it's been that way for ages | May 30 15:15 |
| MinceR | for good reason | May 30 15:15 |
| formic_ | so what if its dead | May 30 15:15 |
| formic_ | it was a project they started | May 30 15:16 |
| MinceR | they had a different conception of what .net was about back then | May 30 15:16 |
| formic_ | it sounds like you're not advocating free software, you're advocating hate | May 30 15:16 |
| formic_ | mono meets the defintion of free software even under FSF standards | May 30 15:16 |
| formic_ | mono should be avoided due to the patent risk | May 30 15:17 |
| MinceR | it sounds like you're putting words in my mouth | May 30 15:17 |
| formic_ | well you said the license didn't matter | May 30 15:17 |
| formic_ | it was a pushing of ms agenda | May 30 15:17 |
| formic_ | 10:14 <@MinceR> also, notice that i didn't talk about what licensing the code got, but what the intention of the project is. | May 30 15:18 |
| MinceR | no, i didn't say that the license didn't matter | May 30 15:18 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Facebook é o maior perdedor da Bolsa americana | agência financeira http://goo.gl/CnIuY #facebroke the only way is down! LOL | May 30 15:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Muahahaha - Copy/paste Pitfall, Episode 5664:"[Miguel de Icaza] later pointed out that the presence of Xamarin's name ... http://b1t.it/bxwv | May 30 15:18 | |
| MinceR | i said that i'm not talking about the license | May 30 15:18 |
| formic_ | what if microsoft released the entire .NET stack under the GPL and gave away the patents to OIN | May 30 15:18 |
| formic_ | would you still hate it? | May 30 15:18 |
| MinceR | are you trying to subvert the meaning of what i'm saying or do you simply fail at reading comprehension? | May 30 15:18 |
| MinceR | if they did that, it could change the entire .net/mono situation | May 30 15:18 |
| formic_ | you're so full of hate mincer | May 30 15:18 |
| MinceR | but they won't do it, precisely for that reason | May 30 15:18 |
| MinceR | hate is irrelevant | May 30 15:19 |
| formic_ | do you still use java? | May 30 15:19 |
| formic_ | same threat | May 30 15:19 |
| MinceR | but if you're bringing up hate, guess what relation m$ is in with GPL | May 30 15:19 |
| MinceR | no, not the same threat | May 30 15:19 |
| MinceR | and i haven't started any projects based on java for years | May 30 15:19 |
| formic_ | microsoft writes gpl code all the time | May 30 15:20 |
| formic_ | it ends up in the kernel | May 30 15:20 |
| MinceR | i think i'll wait until the obstacle vs. google case is concluded | May 30 15:20 |
| qU1j0t3 | yay | May 30 15:20 |
| qU1j0t3 | MinceR: it is. | May 30 15:20 |
| MinceR | yes, that's pretty much all the gpl code m$ writes | May 30 15:20 |
| MinceR | and only because they have no other choice | May 30 15:20 |
| MinceR | if they want to inject their crap into linux | May 30 15:20 |
| formic_ | why does it matter what license as long as its free software? | May 30 15:20 |
| MinceR | ask m$ about that | May 30 15:21 |
| formic_ | i dont bias myself against BSD/MIT/ISC/Apache/CDDL/etc | May 30 15:21 |
| MinceR | (hint: they don't get to steal GPL-ed code) | May 30 15:21 |
| *qU1j0t3 maintains a position of pure objectivity in all things | May 30 15:21 | |
| formic_ | i maintain a position of absolute freedom | May 30 15:21 |
| MinceR | which means whatever you want it to mean, right? | May 30 15:22 |
| formic_ | no, it means what the dictionary says freedom means | May 30 15:22 |
| formic_ | which is not the definition the FSF uses | May 30 15:22 |
| MinceR | which dictionary would that be? | May 30 15:22 |
| formic_ | want an example from marriam webster? | May 30 15:23 |
| MinceR | what makes m-w special? | May 30 15:23 |
| MinceR | but yes, i'd like to see the example. i'm sure it's still subject to interpretation | May 30 15:23 |
| formic_ | acedemia ? | May 30 15:23 |
| formic_ | http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/freedom | May 30 15:23 |
| MinceR | which academia? | May 30 15:23 |
| MinceR | just as expected, it's about as general as anyone's definition of freedom would be | May 30 15:24 |
| MinceR | (not that there's anything wrong with it) | May 30 15:24 |
| MinceR | (but you seem to project your concrete interpretations onto it) | May 30 15:24 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Reshared post from glyn moody http://ur1.ca/9esih | May 30 15:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #JulianAssange loses extradition appeal at Supreme Court http://goo.gl/1fbvQ it was always a case of "find an excuse to say yes" #corruption | May 30 15:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] cue the "coincidental" moves from the US to pressure Sweden that #Assange is "accidentally" diverted via a US airport & detained | May 30 15:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] The Design of LLVM (Dr. Dobb's) http://ur1.ca/9esj0 | May 30 15:26 | |
| formic_ | well there is one important difference | May 30 15:27 |
| formic_ | there is the implied absense of someone telling you what to do | May 30 15:27 |
| MinceR | you seem to be fond of m$ getting to tell what users get to do | May 30 15:28 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] after that, cue the US making the argument that "well, while he arrived here accidentally, it'd be remiss of us not to pounce on him" | May 30 15:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] CEO Says #SOPA & #CISPA Are Needed Because A Disgruntled Customer Once Set Up A Parody Site To Mock Him http://is.gd/XyGKTV | May 30 15:28 | |
| formic_ | "liberation from the slavery or retraint or from the power of another" | May 30 15:28 |
| formic_ | I don't disagree, M$ robs freedom too | May 30 15:28 |
| formic_ | but the FSF's solution to corporate control and greed, isn't freedom | May 30 15:28 |
| formic_ | they just hand of control to someone else | May 30 15:29 |
| formic_ | the GPL is a set of rules | May 30 15:29 |
| MinceR | all licenses are sets of rules | May 30 15:29 |
| formic_ | yes | May 30 15:29 |
| MinceR | copyright, patent and trademark law are sets of rules as well | May 30 15:29 |
| formic_ | rules = non-free | May 30 15:29 |
| MinceR | so, by your interpretation, nothing is free | May 30 15:30 |
| formic_ | the only true free code would be public domain code | May 30 15:30 |
| formic_ | right | May 30 15:30 |
| formic_ | nothing is free | May 30 15:30 |
| formic_ | the FSF just presents a more acceptable set of rules that we can agree with, but its wrong to say thats freedom | May 30 15:30 |
| MinceR | except the law applies to public domain as well | May 30 15:30 |
| MinceR | and some jurisdictions don't even recognize public domain | May 30 15:31 |
| MinceR | and even where it's recognized, m$ still gets to abuse it against users | May 30 15:31 |
| MinceR | infringing on their freedom | May 30 15:31 |
| formic_ | that's why I don't think anyone lives in a free country | May 30 15:32 |
| formic_ | its why i advocate anarchy | May 30 15:32 |
| MinceR | and i agree, but that seems to be pretty tangential to the discussion | May 30 15:33 |
| formic_ | I guess everyone has their own lines of seperation on what free is and isn't | May 30 15:33 |
| formic_ | what is acceptable and not | May 30 15:33 |
| qU1j0t3 | yus | May 30 15:33 |
| formic_ | my argument was over mono being under a license which the FSF says is free | May 30 15:34 |
| MinceR | generally "free software" is used to mean what FSF's definition means, though | May 30 15:34 |
| formic_ | sure ms has an agenda, so does nvidia when they contribute | May 30 15:34 |
| MinceR | and no, the FSD doesn't operate strictly on a copyright licensing basis | May 30 15:34 |
| formic_ | amd has an agenda | May 30 15:34 |
| MinceR | (the OSD does) | May 30 15:34 |
| formic_ | OSI? | May 30 15:34 |
| MinceR | nvidia and amd make products that work and probably aren't trying to take over the world | May 30 15:35 |
| MinceR | m$ is trying to take over the world | May 30 15:35 |
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| MinceR | OSD = Open Source Definition | May 30 15:35 |
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| formic_ | ms is trying and failing | May 30 15:35 |
| qU1j0t3 | MinceR: 'trying' ? :/ | May 30 15:35 |
| formic_ | they're dead | May 30 15:35 |
| qU1j0t3 | formic_: well, yes, but. | May 30 15:35 |
| MinceR | a change of law can hand them victory for a while yet | May 30 15:35 |
| qU1j0t3 | formic_: i've often said so, myself, but it's only true within a narrow definition. | May 30 15:35 |
| formic_ | microsoft is dead in 10-20 years as they spend their way to death | May 30 15:35 |
| MinceR | it all depends on how successful their (and others') lobbying is | May 30 15:36 |
| qU1j0t3 | formic_: yes. but they are very much alive in other senses. | May 30 15:36 |
| MinceR | you can see how hard the fascists are lobbying in the USA (and worldwide) nowadays | May 30 15:36 |
| qU1j0t3 | formic_: microsoft is 'dead' in the sense that a cancer tumour is dead. | May 30 15:36 |
| MinceR | and how hard it is to beat them | May 30 15:36 |
| formic_ | if they survive at all, its because of royalties on android | May 30 15:36 |
| MinceR | (SOPA, PIPA, ACTA, ...) | May 30 15:36 |
| qU1j0t3 | formic_: it will kill the host. but until then, you still have cancer. | May 30 15:36 |
| qU1j0t3 | formic_: nobody's doing anythign about microsoft. that's what bothers me. | May 30 15:36 |
| formic_ | smart phones, tablets and non-desktop devices are going to crush them | May 30 15:36 |
| formic_ | qU1j0t3: what needs to be done to microsoft? | May 30 15:37 |
| qU1j0t3 | formic_: yeah, but why wait? they should have disappeared years ago. | May 30 15:37 |
| qU1j0t3 | what we are seeing is a failed system. | May 30 15:37 |
| formic_ | apple is going to replace microsoft as the bad guy | May 30 15:37 |
| formic_ | i'd rather focus on apple | May 30 15:37 |
| MinceR | looks like it, yes | May 30 15:37 |
| MinceR | unless they wither and die due to loss of leader and direction | May 30 15:38 |
| formic_ | ms can do whatever they want with C#, its never gonna become a major language | May 30 15:38 |
| MinceR | yet they can both survive as patent trolls even if their products are beaten into nonexistence | May 30 15:38 |
| MinceR | and keep trying to buy laws | May 30 15:38 |
| formic_ | its right to be worried about apple, they have products to protect with patents | May 30 15:39 |
| formic_ | microsoft would just ride the gravy train, while having no products people want | May 30 15:39 |
| formic_ | windows 8 is gonna nail their coffin closed | May 30 15:39 |
| qU1j0t3 | meanwhile, they diminish us, and everything. | May 30 15:40 |
| MinceR | they still keep getting money for android | May 30 15:40 |
| qU1j0t3 | for another decade or two | May 30 15:40 |
| MinceR | they tried to TiVoize PCs, that failed | May 30 15:40 |
| formic_ | apple will TiVoize PCs | May 30 15:40 |
| MinceR | i'm not sure what they'll try in the future | May 30 15:40 |
| MinceR | sure, but only their own PCs | May 30 15:40 |
| formic_ | students and schools are playing around with apple tablets | May 30 15:41 |
| MinceR | m$ tried to TiVoize everyone's PCs | May 30 15:41 |
| formic_ | some of those people don't even need PCs | May 30 15:41 |
| formic_ | tablets have a bigger potential than PCs | May 30 15:41 |
| MinceR | ironic how crApple's supposed "post-PC device" requires a PC to initialize for use | May 30 15:42 |
| formic_ | not anymore | May 30 15:42 |
| formic_ | not since the icloud | May 30 15:42 |
| MinceR | how does it work now? | May 30 15:42 |
| formic_ | you can sign up for your apple account through the device | May 30 15:42 |
| formic_ | when you enable icloud you can do backups through that | May 30 15:43 |
| formic_ | you can do iOS upgrades over the air | May 30 15:43 |
| formic_ | I can't think of anything you would need a PC for with it | May 30 15:43 |
| MinceR | ic | May 30 15:43 |
| formic_ | however I can't *trust* the icloud | May 30 15:45 |
| formic_ | theres also no way to access the contents without apple hardware | May 30 15:46 |
| formic_ | none of their hardware lets you take the content somewhere else | May 30 15:46 |
| formic_ | even dropbox is crippled, can't even download onto the device - viewing only | May 30 15:47 |
| MinceR | all that said, it seemed to me that android tablets were just about to beat hypePads already | May 30 15:47 |
| formic_ | android tablets are better | May 30 15:48 |
| formic_ | you can actually copy stuff to the device | May 30 15:48 |
| MinceR | goes without saying | May 30 15:48 |
| formic_ | lol | May 30 15:49 |
| MinceR | but i meant that they were about to beat them in the market :0 | May 30 15:49 |
| formic_ | <3 kindle fire | May 30 15:49 |
| MinceR | s/0/)/ | May 30 15:49 |
| formic_ | oh well thats difficult to determine | May 30 15:49 |
| formic_ | ipads are in the higher end tablet market | May 30 15:49 |
| MinceR | more expensive? | May 30 15:50 |
| formic_ | they are more expensive | May 30 15:50 |
| MinceR | i doubt that matters | May 30 15:50 |
| formic_ | thats not why they are in the high end market though | May 30 15:50 |
| formic_ | the quality | May 30 15:50 |
| formic_ | the physical durability and quality of the materials | May 30 15:51 |
| MinceR | quality-wise they're low-end, like the rest of the crApple product line | May 30 15:51 |
| formic_ | have you compared a low end $80 android tablet with a high end android tablet like an asus transformer? | May 30 15:51 |
| MinceR | overheating products, exploding batteries, cracking glass panes, incapable software, missing peripherals... | May 30 15:51 |
| MinceR | no, but i have some idea of what differences there are | May 30 15:51 |
| MinceR | my pocket-sized tablet is on the cheap side, but it's still a lot more capable than any hypePad will ever be :) | May 30 15:52 |
| formic_ | i love my kindle fire | May 30 15:52 |
| formic_ | i think i would be happier with an asus transformer | May 30 15:53 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] NEWS: Linux Foundation announces new tool for tracking free and open source software components: bit.ly/JA2vTu #linux #oss | May 30 15:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] "They publish food photos without your consent, which is taking intellectual property away from the restaurant." - RJ ... http://b1t.it/bxwF | May 30 15:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @Falkvinge Please get the message out to contact MEPs _today_ to reject #ACTA in tomorrow's vote: http://bit.ly/LI9bP6 | May 30 15:53 | |
| formic_ | amazon are jerks | May 30 15:53 |
| formic_ | if all you want are free apps, you still need to give them a US credit card # | May 30 15:54 |
| formic_ | I couldn't do anything without hacking it and installing my own OS | May 30 15:54 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] This Rock Could Spy on You for Decades http://goo.gl/vRgys #usa #mic #stateterrorism #surveillance | May 30 16:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #BBC Uses a 2003 Picture from #Iraq to Incite War Against #Syria | The Vigilant Citizen http://goo.gl/1icM7 #NATO #MIC #MSM #medialies | May 30 16:21 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Murder they wrote – the Dutch kill #ACTA - http://bit.ly/JQ2S9r I'm not convinced...let's keep fighting (v @mgeist) | May 30 16:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] NC Makes Sea Level Rise Illegal - http://bit.ly/KcBln5 "Rates of sea-level rise may be extrapolated linearly"; uh-huh (v @BoraZ) | May 30 16:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Reshared post from Mitesh Shah http://ur1.ca/9esxy | May 30 16:44 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: 116 000 missing children hotline should be available across EU. Remaining EU countries n http://p.ost.im/p/enkrny | May 30 16:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: Did you know you can dial 116 000 for missing children hotline? http://t.co/hVrYQ7TS htt http://p.ost.im/p/enA2EG | May 30 16:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] New Zealand Judge Won't Rubberstamp Kim Dotcom Extradition; Orders US To Share Evidence - http://bit.ly/M7zXms sounds fair | May 30 16:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Reshared post from Dietrich Schmitz http://ur1.ca/9et0c | May 30 16:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Disabled hot corner in #GNOME 3. | May 30 17:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Stopping #ACTA: DEVE Committee - http://bit.ly/LItMCO some more MEPs desperate for you to contact them before they vote | May 30 17:14 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] Why !GNU !Linux for !Android is the most important Linux project today http://redd.it/uca0s !LibrePlanet | May 30 17:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] evidently | May 30 17:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] sadly not | May 30 17:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Chagas Disease: Poverty, Immigration, And The “New HIV/AIDS” - http://bit.ly/JugOEG already endemic in #texas; blood supplies under threat | May 30 17:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @annabelle__s Aw... Weekends zijn moeilijk voor me in Juli. Alles al quasi volzet | May 30 17:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: http://t.co/hZi2tlJe #FlatTurtle, proud sponsor of #Brosella - Our first event as a sponsor :) | May 30 17:43 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Association for Computing Machinery Helps Smear Open Source http://ur1.ca/9etim #acm | May 30 18:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] Shared Stuff, using @Unhosted's remoteStorage to help you and your freinds keep track of items you want to share http://redd.it/uccrl !lp | May 30 18:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Wednesday's security advisories http://ur1.ca/9etkw | May 30 18:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Massive improvement. Hot corner is severe design flaw. This is !notatroll. | May 30 18:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Microsoft Phones Cannot Run #Microsoft Software http://ur1.ca/9etlp #wp7 | May 30 18:41 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] The Linux Foundation Announces New Tool for Tracking Free and Open Source Software Components http://ur1.ca/9ettc | May 30 19:28 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Intellectual Ventures CEO Nathan Myhrvold: I'm Not Ashamed of Suing People - http://dthin.gs/KWViYF tries to justify the unjustifable | May 30 19:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] A desinformação dos media "de referência" http://goo.gl/FAWwF #nwo #msm #medialies | May 30 19:48 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Awesome @kickstarter project Open Goldberg Variations has "Set Bach Free." Recordings now available under CC0. http://goo.gl/8bCE3 | May 30 20:13 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Canadian Copyright Consultation Submissions⇒ Mike Warren: http://www.ur1.ca/9eu7h !C11 !CDNpoli !copyright | May 30 20:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @creativecommons Awesome @kickstarter project Open Goldberg Variations has "Set Bach Free." Recordings now available under CC0. http: ... | May 30 20:28 | |
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| formic_ | daemonfc - so much for freedom of speech | May 30 20:30 |
| DaemonFC | well, in New York it would have gone "Passenger makes racist rant, signs own death warrant" | May 30 20:31 |
| DaemonFC | prison is pretty mild compared with that :) | May 30 20:32 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] Interview: Lee Rainie on Networked Individualism http://ow.ly/1k6PH8 | May 30 20:34 | |
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| formic_ | She replies: "I used to live in England and now I live in the United Nations." | May 30 20:35 |
| formic_ | LOL | May 30 20:35 |
| formic_ | Only smart thing she said | May 30 20:35 |
| DaemonFC | apparently stupid can be a crime | May 30 20:38 |
| qU1j0t3 | prison isn't enough. she should be deported. | May 30 20:38 |
| formic_ | qU1j0t3: lol that's silly | May 30 20:38 |
| formic_ | freedom of speech means even the bad stuff | May 30 20:38 |
| formic_ | she had every right to say what she did, even though it was stupid | May 30 20:39 |
| qU1j0t3 | formic_: i'm not a lawyer, but there are laws against certain crap. | May 30 20:39 |
| qU1j0t3 | it's somewhere beyond stupid. | May 30 20:39 |
| qU1j0t3 | she misunderstands her own society | May 30 20:39 |
| qU1j0t3 | 'wishing won't make it so' | May 30 20:39 |
| formic_ | doesn't matter | May 30 20:39 |
| qU1j0t3 | WHY ARE MY NEIGHBOURS ALL BROWN | May 30 20:39 |
| DaemonFC | the US doesn't prosecute hate speech if it is pure speech | May 30 20:39 |
| formic_ | nobody anywhere does anything about racism towards white people | May 30 20:39 |
| *qU1j0t3 isn't a lawyer. | May 30 20:40 | |
| DaemonFC | but if it contributes to someone else committing a crime, then it can be prosecuted | May 30 20:40 |
| DaemonFC | it all depends on context | May 30 20:40 |
| formic_ | being a lawyer is not the point | May 30 20:40 |
| formic_ | 'freedom of speech' | May 30 20:40 |
| DaemonFC | freedom of speech is not absolute | May 30 20:40 |
| formic_ | its not absolute because of fascist laws | May 30 20:40 |
| DaemonFC | even in the US, the Supreme Court has declared that it is not | May 30 20:41 |
| DaemonFC | the Constitution gives the Supreme Court the power to interpret the Constitution | May 30 20:41 |
| DaemonFC | and around and round we go | May 30 20:41 |
| formic_ | laws regarding free speech and race don't protect white people, so such laws shouldn't exist until they do | May 30 20:41 |
| DaemonFC | so they have the constitutional ability to "creatively interpret" the constitution | May 30 20:41 |
| DaemonFC | formic_, Actually, Affirmative Action laws have benefited white people from time to time | May 30 20:42 |
| DaemonFC | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ricci_v._DeStefano | May 30 20:42 |
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| DaemonFC | that's an oddball though | May 30 20:44 |
| DaemonFC | Affirmative Action tends to create reverse racism more often than it promotes equality | May 30 20:45 |
| DaemonFC | colleges have been getting away with the same thing the city of New Haven tried with the firefighters for years | May 30 20:45 |
| formic_ | I've been racially offended at school by the teachers | May 30 20:45 |
| formic_ | insisting every white person in history was racist | May 30 20:46 |
| DaemonFC | formic_, Look on the bright side | May 30 20:46 |
| qU1j0t3 | why do you care? | May 30 20:46 |
| formic_ | i've seen 'fuck whites' 'go punjab' spraypainted on sidewalks | May 30 20:46 |
| qU1j0t3 | i don't give a shit what people say about my race | May 30 20:46 |
| DaemonFC | In 40 years when white non-hispanics are a minority in the US, those laws will finally do us some good | May 30 20:46 |
| qU1j0t3 | but that's me | May 30 20:46 |
| formic_ | qU1j0t3: exactly, so why should others | May 30 20:46 |
| DaemonFC | maybe it's just creative planning for the future | May 30 20:46 |
| formic_ | qU1j0t3: why pass laws that infringe someones freedom of speech | May 30 20:46 |
| qU1j0t3 | formic_: because it's personal. | May 30 20:47 |
| formic_ | why should we criminalize stuff that insults | May 30 20:47 |
| formic_ | its stupid | May 30 20:47 |
| qU1j0t3 | formic_: well 'hate speech' is a controversial issue. | May 30 20:47 |
| formic_ | hate speech laws are often unconstitutional | May 30 20:47 |
| qU1j0t3 | i don't think it's clear cut either way. there is stuff that goes on in the public sphere that is pretty clearly unacceptable. | May 30 20:47 |
| formic_ | except in Canada, where our constitution has exceptions for laws | May 30 20:47 |
| DaemonFC | the reason for the decline in the white population are generous welfare programs that encourage impoverished minorities to reproduce | May 30 20:48 |
| qU1j0t3 | public figures often need laws to give them 'hints' | May 30 20:48 |
| DaemonFC | as long as the state is footing the bill, they have no reason to care about using birth control | May 30 20:48 |
| qU1j0t3 | about what is acceptable | May 30 20:48 |
| qU1j0t3 | but then so do ordinary people | May 30 20:48 |
| DaemonFC | and in a few decades, they'll have the numbers to take over the US government and start rewriting our laws | May 30 20:48 |
| qU1j0t3 | DaemonFC: who will? | May 30 20:49 |
| DaemonFC | the Hispanic population | May 30 20:49 |
| qU1j0t3 | DaemonFC: do you ever ask who's writing your laws TODAY? | May 30 20:49 |
| DaemonFC | by that time, most of them will be legal US citizens because of the 14th amendment | May 30 20:50 |
| DaemonFC | and they can make new laws to give amnesty to the rest | May 30 20:50 |
| qU1j0t3 | how awful. | May 30 20:50 |
| qU1j0t3 | world's tiniest violin .. can you hear it? | May 30 20:50 |
| DaemonFC | it's like those wasps that stab ants in the head and lead them back to the nest | May 30 20:50 |
| DaemonFC | to lay their eggs in the corpse | May 30 20:50 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @evan 8:00pm . . . sounds good :) | May 30 20:51 | |
| DaemonFC | qU1j0t3, I don't expect the laws favoring corporations over people to change simply because the racial makeup of the country changes | May 30 20:52 |
| DaemonFC | someone will always be at the top with their boot on everyone lower down | May 30 20:52 |
| qU1j0t3 | yay | May 30 20:53 |
| *qU1j0t3 toasts Thomas Hobbes | May 30 20:53 | |
| DaemonFC | I'm glad we have that Secure Communities program | May 30 20:54 |
| qU1j0t3 | anythign to keep brown people out | May 30 20:54 |
| DaemonFC | finally the feds are interested in at least deporting the many tens of thousands of criminals who had no business here in the first place | May 30 20:55 |
| qU1j0t3 | yes, it's important they don't get around to white criminals in government | May 30 20:55 |
| qU1j0t3 | you have a terrific record of prosecuting those | May 30 20:55 |
| DaemonFC | why should we host illegal immigrants who steal, deal drugs, and rape people? | May 30 20:56 |
| DaemonFC | we should send them to prison, and when their term expires, deport them to wherever they came from | May 30 20:56 |
| qU1j0t3 | if only it were that simple. | May 30 20:56 |
| qU1j0t3 | let's assume we were talking about criminals of any other race -- say white. do you have a good system for dealing with them? | May 30 20:57 |
| DaemonFC | qU1j0t3, If I wanted to cross the border into Canada, wasn't interested in finding work or paying taxes, declared that I wanted welfare on your system, and by the way, give me a drivers license and all that other stuff too | May 30 20:57 |
| qU1j0t3 | go right ahead | May 30 20:57 |
| DaemonFC | and maybe I don't speak English or French and won't bother to learn them | May 30 20:57 |
| qU1j0t3 | we need more guns up here | May 30 20:58 |
| DaemonFC | so I should stay right? | May 30 20:58 |
| qU1j0t3 | make sure to bring yours across the border | May 30 20:58 |
| qU1j0t3 | DaemonFC: yes, in fact you can use my sofa | May 30 20:58 |
| DaemonFC | and I can clog up your toilet and raid the fridge and deal drugs from your driveway too? | May 30 20:58 |
| DaemonFC | oh joy! | May 30 20:58 |
| qU1j0t3 | of course | May 30 20:59 |
| qU1j0t3 | mi casa es su casa | May 30 20:59 |
| DaemonFC | your cops catch and release like ours do, right? | May 30 20:59 |
| qU1j0t3 | especially if you carry guns | May 30 20:59 |
| DaemonFC | like if I rape and kill someone, there's a good chance I'll be out in 5-10 years to do it again, and they won't deport me | May 30 20:59 |
| DaemonFC | right? right? :) | May 30 20:59 |
| qU1j0t3 | they're like, "Ah, you good people," and send you on your way. | May 30 20:59 |
| DaemonFC | qU1j0t3, I'm sure I'd make a more productive Canadian citizen than a lot of the people your government lets in | May 30 21:00 |
| qU1j0t3 | cool. | May 30 21:00 |
| DaemonFC | I'd be all like, Yo bitches! | May 30 21:00 |
| DaemonFC | Canada, Fuck Yeah! | May 30 21:01 |
| DaemonFC | Eh? | May 30 21:01 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | May 30 21:01 |
| qU1j0t3 | you'll fit right in. but best of all, you won't have to deal with all those hispanics | May 30 21:01 |
| qU1j0t3 | DaemonFC: we're all white as fuq up here | May 30 21:02 |
| qU1j0t3 | DaemonFC: the way god intended | May 30 21:02 |
| DaemonFC | nerdy to the extreme? | May 30 21:02 |
| DaemonFC | and white like sour cream? | May 30 21:02 |
| formic_ | 15:57 < qU1j0t3> go right ahead | May 30 21:03 |
| formic_ | fuck that shit qU1j0t3 | May 30 21:03 |
| qU1j0t3 | formic_: you don't think he's a model citizen?! | May 30 21:04 |
| formic_ | 15:57 < DaemonFC> qU1j0t3, If I wanted to cross the border into Canada, wasn't interested in finding work or paying taxes, declared that I wanted welfare on your | May 30 21:05 |
| formic_ | system, and by the way, give me a drivers license and all that other stuff too | May 30 21:05 |
| qU1j0t3 | health care. don't forget that. | May 30 21:05 |
| formic_ | I don't think people should come here if they won't work | May 30 21:05 |
| formic_ | and pay taxes | May 30 21:05 |
| qU1j0t3 | really. | May 30 21:05 |
| formic_ | yes | May 30 21:06 |
| DaemonFC | I actually have decent health insurance at the moment | May 30 21:06 |
| DaemonFC | which is, unusual but I'm not going to knock it | May 30 21:06 |
| formic_ | working and paying taxes pays for the handouts | May 30 21:06 |
| DaemonFC | I despise drug companies and their patent though, so I still get generic medication only | May 30 21:06 |
| DaemonFC | I could get newer versions of everything, but people that do that are a big reason why premiums go up every year | May 30 21:07 |
| DaemonFC | insurance companies are a drain on the "pool", but they are a small one compared to hospitals, doctors, and especially drug companies | May 30 21:08 |
| formic_ | I dislike the fact that 25% of my income is taken, and some of it is going to people who are not contributing. | May 30 21:08 |
| DaemonFC | insurance companies typically pay out 80 cents of every dollar that goes into them on healthcare, which is hardly efficient | May 30 21:08 |
| DaemonFC | but when a bottle of pills can be upwards of $400, who cares what the insurance companies are doing? | May 30 21:08 |
| DaemonFC | I think there are bigger fish to fry than insurance companies if we really wanted healthcare reform | May 30 21:09 |
| DaemonFC | but they should definitely be on the list | May 30 21:09 |
| DaemonFC | some states are objecting to Secure Communities, and they theoretically can refuse it | May 30 21:10 |
| DaemonFC | in practice, none of them will because the federal government funds a lot of state prison systems with money they took from the states to begin with | May 30 21:11 |
| DaemonFC | if a state refuses to cooperate with anything the feds want, the feds can just refuse to give back the money they took | May 30 21:11 |
| DaemonFC | which is exactly why states are etting up their health insurance exchanges that the Affordable Care Act mandated, because there is a fallback clause that says if they don't, the federal government will create one for them | May 30 21:12 |
| DaemonFC | formic_, I don't know why the Republicans are going back to Romneycare, the way Romney did it, he line item vetoed all the sections that would give health insurance subsidies to the poor, and signed all the sections that would tax the poor and middle class to provide subsidies for people making six figure incomes | May 30 21:14 |
| DaemonFC | the only reason it didn't work out that way is because the legislature overrode his vetoes | May 30 21:14 |
| DaemonFC | the way Romney intended to implement it (a regressive tax on the poor to subsidize health coverage for people who are rich, while denying the poor access to healthcare themselves) sounds like something the Republicans would love to expand nationally | May 30 21:15 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is sandersch from identi.ca with 80 dents! | May 30 21:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #AndyCoulson held in #TommySheridan trial #perjury inquiry http://goo.gl/zyCMJ | May 30 21:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Kaspersky antivirus use Linux to rescue Windows http://ur1.ca/9epxg #microsoft #windows #software #gnu #linux #kaspersky #security | May 30 21:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] »» @CalebGarling to @FOSSpatents "Can I ask why there's no Oracle disclosure at the top of your blog posts that conc... http://b1t.it/bxDj | May 30 21:26 | |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Kaspersky antivirus use Linux to rescue Windows | Unixmen .::. Size~: 80.17 KB | May 30 21:26 |
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| formic_ | daemonfc - a politicians job is to steal money | May 30 21:31 |
| DaemonFC | don't forget the other part | May 30 21:31 |
| formic_ | if romney wasn't stealing it, someone else would | May 30 21:32 |
| DaemonFC | handing back some of the money they took from you to the special interests that fund their re-election | May 30 21:32 |
| qU1j0t3 | that's right, so we should just vote for the best looking one | May 30 21:32 |
| formic_ | i just don | May 30 21:32 |
| formic_ | don't vote | May 30 21:33 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Freecycling has viral effect on community spirit and generosity http://ping.fm/zw6Ml | May 30 21:34 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Freecycling has viral effect on community spirit and generosity | ScienceBlog.com .::. Size~: 28.5 KB | May 30 21:35 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Politwoops preserves deleted tweets from US politicians http://is.gd/7V31UQ cue the declaration by politicians that it's illegal etc | May 30 21:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Windows 8: More EULA, Fewer Rights http://is.gd/REfn0r | May 30 21:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Apple CEO: When Others Violate Our Patents, They're Copying Our Hard Work; When We Violate Patents, The System Is Broken http://is.gd/JbNcEc | May 30 21:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] :( again with the fucking novel length titles from #TechDirt - if that #Apple link doesn't work, blame Mike's title | May 30 21:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] in the age of microblogs; if your title ALONE (minus link) is 120 chars, you're doing it wrong #TechDirt | May 30 21:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #DMCA Notices So Stupid It Hurts http://is.gd/2pdTk4 | May 30 21:43 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Politwoops preserves deleted tweets from US politicians | The Verge .::. Size~: 84.31 KB | May 30 21:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Windows 8: More EULA, Fewer Rights. - Slashdot .::. Size~: 306.24 KB | May 30 21:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Apple CEO: When Others Violate Our Patents, They're Copying Our Hard Work; When We Violate Patents, The System Is Broken | Techdirt .::. Size~: 112.14 KB | May 30 21:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: DMCA Notices So Stupid It Hurts | Techdirt .::. Size~: 110.15 KB | May 30 21:43 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #NYTimes Draws Connection Between #BeastieBoys Lawsuit & Patent Trolls, Realizes IP Hinders Innovation http://is.gd/AeX406 | May 30 21:44 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: NYTimes Draws Connection Between Beastie Boys Lawsuit & Patent Trolls, Realizes IP Hinders Innovation | Techdirt .::. Size~: 47.55 KB | May 30 21:44 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] A Billion Dollars to Buy Democracy? - YouTube http://goo.gl/qFkVF | May 30 21:46 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: A Billion Dollars to Buy Democracy? - YouTube .::. Size~: 124 KB | May 30 21:46 |
| formic_ | Voting: Your choice of Criminal A, Criminal B, Crazy Criminal C, Crazy Criminal D | May 30 21:47 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] 2012's Best Linux desktop: Linux Mint 13 http://ur1.ca/9eut5 #gnu #linux #mint #microsoft #windows #desktop | May 30 21:48 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: 2012's Best Linux desktop: Linux Mint 13 | ZDNet .::. Size~: 115.34 KB | May 30 21:48 |
| qU1j0t3 | or, in USA, Criminal A, Criminal B | May 30 21:49 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] AlterNet: #Obama Expands Secret Wars Across the Globe http://goo.gl/gyds6 #usa #mic #stateterrorism | May 30 21:49 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: AlterNet: Obama Expands Secret Wars Across the Globe .::. Size~: 12.74 KB | May 30 21:50 |
| qU1j0t3 | TechrightsBot-tr: good timing! | May 30 21:50 |
| formic_ | TechrightsBot-tr: yes, no rage quit for qU1j0t3 this time | May 30 21:50 |
| *qU1j0t3 (~qu1j0t3@vm4.telegraphics.com.au) has left #techrights ("don't count on it") | May 30 21:51 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1665544 | May 30 21:57 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Moonlight is Dead http://techrights.org/2012/05/30/moonlight-dies/ #mono #novell #ximian #xamarin | May 30 21:57 |
| schestowitz | "No surprises there. It barely worked to begin with." | May 30 21:57 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> Title: Moonlight is Dead | Techrights .::. Size~: 85 KB | May 30 21:57 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] LibreOffice 3.5.4 is announced by The Document Foundation http://ur1.ca/9erct #libreoffice #tdf #odt #opendocument #office #software | May 30 21:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: Train canceled. Stuck in Brussels North. Perhaps someone can give me a ride to Ghent? #dta | May 30 21:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: Train canceled. Stuck in Brussels North. Perhaps someone can give me a ride? #dta | May 30 21:59 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The Document Foundation announces LibreOffice 3.5.4 « The Document Foundation Blog .::. Size~: 63.61 KB | May 30 21:59 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] LibreOffice 3.5.4 released http://ur1.ca/9euwe | May 30 22:01 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: LibreOffice 3.5.4 released [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 7.61 KB | May 30 22:01 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1664107 | May 30 22:02 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared:  #photo #art | May 30 22:02 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> Title: 9GAG .::. Size~: 0.78 KB | May 30 22:02 |
| schestowitz | "Wow. Just wow..." | May 30 22:02 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1664106 | May 30 22:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared:  #Free your #mind !!! #Trash da #TV !!! | May 30 22:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting image/jpeg type | May 30 22:03 |
| schestowitz | ".and stop visiting any website run by a publicly traded company." | May 30 22:03 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I might cancel Netflix after this free trial | May 30 22:05 |
| DaemonFC | every once in a while they offer me a free month, then I take it, watch a ton of stuff, and then cancel it | May 30 22:05 |
| DaemonFC | I think I've only paid them for like 2 months of streaming back when you could get DVDs with it | May 30 22:06 |
| formic_ | the pirate pay offers me 24/7 programming | May 30 22:06 |
| formic_ | bay* | May 30 22:06 |
| DaemonFC | they're part of Google and Microsoft's plan to DRM-encumber HTML 5 | May 30 22:06 |
| formic_ | LOL | May 30 22:06 |
| formic_ | How do you DRM encumber HTML5? | May 30 22:06 |
| MinceR | by allowing HTML5 video (and audio) to be DRM-encrusted? | May 30 22:07 |
| DaemonFC | Google, Microsoft, and Netflix wrote a draft specification for it | May 30 22:07 |
| DaemonFC | they want to call it the HTML 5 Media Encryption Standard | May 30 22:07 |
| formic_ | as long as its optional | May 30 22:07 |
| DaemonFC | recent builds of Chrome have support for it | May 30 22:07 |
| MinceR | so they're calling it "encryption" nowadays? :> | May 30 22:07 |
| formic_ | and doesn't prevent open formats | May 30 22:07 |
| DaemonFC | it won't be optional | May 30 22:08 |
| DaemonFC | it will turn HTML 5 media into something that's no better than Flash | May 30 22:08 |
| formic_ | DaemonFC: so they plan to remove support for webm? | May 30 22:08 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: And "there are pickpockets in the station", they keep saying using the giant megaphone system. #brusselsbynight | May 30 22:08 | |
| DaemonFC | formic_, If the WebM stream is DRM'd who gives a shit that WebM is a nominally open format? | May 30 22:08 |
| formic_ | why does it matter? you will likely be able to get a free pirated copy somewhere else | May 30 22:09 |
| DaemonFC | my point is we shouldn't have to deal with this | May 30 22:09 |
| formic_ | you dont | May 30 22:09 |
| formic_ | unless they remove support for open formats | May 30 22:09 |
| DaemonFC | DRM only ever hurts people who bought a copy of whatever we're talking about | May 30 22:09 |
| MinceR | the web should be free | May 30 22:09 |
| formic_ | DRM only hurts people who use it | May 30 22:09 |
| MinceR | DRM will be used to lock people into nonfree browsers | May 30 22:09 |
| formic_ | what non free browsers | May 30 22:10 |
| DaemonFC | they want to pollute an open standard with DRM so they can pretend that they're protecting whatever it is that is DRM'd | May 30 22:10 |
| MinceR | ie, chrome, safari | May 30 22:10 |
| formic_ | chrome is behind this apparently, and its free | May 30 22:10 |
| DaemonFC | and like you said, pirate sites will continue to thrive | May 30 22:10 |
| MinceR | chrome is nonfree | May 30 22:10 |
| DaemonFC | Chrome isn't free software | May 30 22:10 |
| DaemonFC | Chrome is free in the same way Opera and Internet Explorer are | May 30 22:10 |
| formic_ | its built from chromium | May 30 22:11 |
| DaemonFC | that is, that you don't pay money up front for it, they just hide what you pay for it someplace else | May 30 22:11 |
| MinceR | so what? | May 30 22:11 |
| formic_ | chromium will play non-drm html5 video | May 30 22:11 |
| formic_ | so why does it even matter | May 30 22:11 |
| MinceR | so? | May 30 22:11 |
| schestowitz | OS X is build from BSD | May 30 22:11 |
| DaemonFC | I consider giving all my personal information to Google as a price to be paid if I want to use Chrome | May 30 22:11 |
| formic_ | nobody is forcing you to use locked formats | May 30 22:11 |
| schestowitz | *built | May 30 22:11 |
| MinceR | it won't play DRM-ed HTML5 video | May 30 22:11 |
| DaemonFC | so Chrome isn't even really free of charge | May 30 22:11 |
| formic_ | why should it play DRMed video | May 30 22:11 |
| DaemonFC | unless your privacy is worth nothing to you | May 30 22:11 |
| MinceR | it shouldn't | May 30 22:11 |
| formic_ | you dont want DRMed video, and it wont play it - problem solved | May 30 22:12 |
| MinceR | there should be no DRMed video on the web | May 30 22:12 |
| formic_ | you can't stop them from putting DRMed video on the web | May 30 22:12 |
| MinceR | i can't | May 30 22:12 |
| DaemonFC | burn it all in fire along with the RoboHungarian dictator | May 30 22:12 |
| MinceR | users and the w3c could | May 30 22:12 |
| DaemonFC | right, Comrade MinceR? | May 30 22:12 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 30 22:12 |
| formic_ | just ignore it and watch non-drm video | May 30 22:12 |
| MinceR | calling orban a robot is an offense to robots | May 30 22:12 |
| MinceR | :> | May 30 22:12 |
| MinceR | they fired the rubberstamp android already | May 30 22:12 |
| schestowitz | robots have felings to | May 30 22:12 |
| schestowitz | *too | May 30 22:13 |
| schestowitz | there's a song like this | May 30 22:13 |
| schestowitz | "robots have feelings too" | May 30 22:13 |
| MinceR | there will be no non-drm video if major video sharing sites lock users into drm and nonfree browsers | May 30 22:13 |
| formic_ | MinceR: do you get upset when people willingly fuel their car with gas? | May 30 22:13 |
| DaemonFC | US presidents have signed laws with an autopen before and nobody has ever challenged it | May 30 22:13 |
| MinceR | formic_: do you get upset when someone tries to derail the conversation using a stupid, pointless question? | May 30 22:13 |
| schestowitz | gas is not objectionable | May 30 22:13 |
| schestowitz | it also doesn't impose itself on people who don't like cars | May 30 22:14 |
| MinceR | (also irrelevant) | May 30 22:14 |
| formic_ | drm doesnt impose itself on people who dont like drm | May 30 22:14 |
| formic_ | if it has drm, dont use it then | May 30 22:14 |
| MinceR | in this case, it will | May 30 22:14 |
| formic_ | no it wont | May 30 22:14 |
| MinceR | there's already an h.264 vs free formats war going on | May 30 22:14 |
| formic_ | so? | May 30 22:14 |
| DaemonFC | different scumbags involved there | May 30 22:15 |
| formic_ | DRM video formats aren't making my VLC stop working | May 30 22:15 |
| DaemonFC | and they might succeed in patent taxing WebM eventually | May 30 22:15 |
| formic_ | why should that change the web | May 30 22:15 |
| MinceR | VLC is not a web browser | May 30 22:15 |
| formic_ | my point is that DRM is already out there and people are still using non DRM formats | May 30 22:16 |
| formic_ | giving a browser a DRM format isn't going to make DRM all of a sudden the only option | May 30 22:16 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] RT @x11r5 @joar or are you down for reboot | May 30 22:16 | |
| formic_ | all DRM does is fuck with people purchasing stuff from corporations that are greedy and stupid | May 30 22:17 |
| MinceR | DRM can do more than that | May 30 22:17 |
| MinceR | it can also make a website incompatible with all nonfree browsers | May 30 22:17 |
| MinceR | oops | May 30 22:17 |
| formic_ | DRM is going to delete all my free format stuff? | May 30 22:17 |
| MinceR | it can also make a website incompatible with all free browsers | May 30 22:17 |
| formic_ | well then that website is not worth visiting | May 30 22:17 |
| MinceR | it might be applied to major websites | May 30 22:17 |
| formic_ | then they will not be major websites for long | May 30 22:18 |
| MinceR | it might be used to lock other (ignorant) users' content away from you | May 30 22:18 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Land Destroyer: West's #Houla #Syria Narrative Crumbles, Expels Syrian Diplomats Anyway http://goo.gl/c4rb9 #msm #medialies #mic | May 30 22:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @sachaschmitz thanks but there is a slow train to ghent still :) | May 30 22:18 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Land Destroyer: West's Houla Syria Narrative Crumbles, Expels Syrian Diplomats Anyway .::. Size~: 88.58 KB | May 30 22:18 |
| MinceR | they might, since nonfree browsers still constitute a large part of the market | May 30 22:18 |
| MinceR | (chrome and ie) | May 30 22:18 |
| DaemonFC | mostly Chrome these days | May 30 22:19 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 30 22:19 |
| formic_ | its doomsaying | May 30 22:20 |
| DaemonFC | IE user agents account for about 20% of Wikimedia traffic and I would suspect that nearly half of that is fake | May 30 22:20 |
| DaemonFC | or overcounts | May 30 22:20 |
| MinceR | yes, predicting a possible risk is "doomsaying" | May 30 22:20 |
| formic_ | it is when you predict calamity at every opportunity | May 30 22:20 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: in some cases, public perception is all that matters (sadly) | May 30 22:21 |
| DaemonFC | if you take out browser spoofing and things that aren't even IE that say they are, like antivirus software clicking on links, then I would guess that IE is more like 10-12% of the traffic on Wikimedia | May 30 22:21 |
| formic_ | DRM music cds for example, extremely unpopular, avoided and in some cases boycotted | May 30 22:21 |
| MinceR | are they? | May 30 22:21 |
| formic_ | you give way too much power to these corporations | May 30 22:21 |
| MinceR | does the typical user know about them? | May 30 22:21 |
| MinceR | i don't | May 30 22:21 |
| MinceR | ignorant masses do | May 30 22:21 |
| formic_ | mincer - yeah, because otherwise EVERY CD would have DRM | May 30 22:22 |
| MinceR | and states that enforce the laws they've bought | May 30 22:22 |
| formic_ | no, you do | May 30 22:22 |
| formic_ | by spreading these doomsaying prophecies, you're giving them power | May 30 22:22 |
| MinceR | if it depended on me, these corporations wouldn't have gotten off the ground | May 30 22:22 |
| DaemonFC | every CD would have DRM if it was technically feasible when the standard was made | May 30 22:22 |
| DaemonFC | which is why they want to kill the CD market off so badly | May 30 22:22 |
| DaemonFC | once they wipe out demand for the CD, they can stop making them, and replace them with music files that have DRM again | May 30 22:23 |
| DaemonFC | removing DRM from iTunes music and offering MP3 files with no DRM is just a plot to lure people into a false sense of security so they will abandon the CD | May 30 22:24 |
| formic_ | well whenever this HTML5 drm video format comes out, ill give mincer $100 if my free format videos get deleted | May 30 22:24 |
| DaemonFC | once there is no format without DRM, they will all have DRM | May 30 22:24 |
| MinceR | formic_: i didn't say _your_ videos will get deleted | May 30 22:24 |
| MinceR | once again, you fail reading comprehension | May 30 22:24 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Land Destroyer: Understanding the Propaganda War Against #Syria http://goo.gl/XL4Pz #mic #msm #medialies | May 30 22:24 | |
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| formic_ | daemonfc - so formats are going to magically disappear? | May 30 22:25 |
| MinceR | i thought hypeTunes offering music without DRM was only because every other music shop service already did it ages before them | May 30 22:25 |
| DaemonFC | once the CD is wiped out, the music industry will ban sales of MP3 | May 30 22:25 |
| MinceR | and they had to compete somehow | May 30 22:25 |
| DaemonFC | something like iTunes DRM will be the "new standard" | May 30 22:25 |
| DaemonFC | and there won't be any exceptions | May 30 22:25 |
| formic_ | lol | May 30 22:25 |
| formic_ | silly | May 30 22:25 |
| MinceR | (in fact, others did that before hypeTunes even appeared) | May 30 22:26 |
| DaemonFC | they'll use that as their excuse to keep everyone on the MPEG-LA patent treadmill too | May 30 22:26 |
| MinceR | that patent racket is another reason for locking users into DRM-encumbered web standards | May 30 22:26 |
| DaemonFC | well, lossy compression codecs has already been used as a form of planned obsolescence | May 30 22:27 |
| formic_ | its not hard to rip the DRM out of itunes files | May 30 22:27 |
| DaemonFC | consider "iTunes Plus" and "upgrade my library" | May 30 22:27 |
| DaemonFC | if you don't buy all the music you already bought all over again, it will still be encumbered with iTunes DRM and at the old bit rate of 128k | May 30 22:28 |
| formic_ | i bet pirates will break whatever DRM HTML5 video ends up out there | May 30 22:28 |
| MinceR | in transit, as the video stream goes from the webserver to your browser? | May 30 22:28 |
| formic_ | mincer - yeah | May 30 22:28 |
| DaemonFC | next time they can double the bitrate again and tell people they need to buy all their music again | May 30 22:28 |
| MinceR | for every single user-submitted video? | May 30 22:28 |
| formic_ | sure | May 30 22:28 |
| MinceR | yes, i'm sure that will happen | May 30 22:28 |
| DaemonFC | and a lot of people that use Apple stuff will because nobody wants to think they have last year's model of anything | May 30 22:28 |
| DaemonFC | (including music files) | May 30 22:29 |
| formic_ | mincer - yeah because every form of drm ever invented has been broken | May 30 22:29 |
| MinceR | but let's assume it will -- does that mean it's not a horribly bad future for the free web? | May 30 22:29 |
| MinceR | formic_: not necessarily in stream, as a service | May 30 22:29 |
| formic_ | mincer - i guarantee it will | May 30 22:29 |
| DaemonFC | DRM is like a Kudzu infestation | May 30 22:30 |
| formic_ | hell, i wonder why you couldn't already just use 'recordmydesktop' | May 30 22:30 |
| DaemonFC | you can go hack it all down every year but it will be back next year | May 30 22:31 |
| MinceR | 'recordmydesktop' is unlikely to be able to keep the framerate up | May 30 22:31 |
| MinceR | also, it would result in re-encoding | May 30 22:31 |
| formic_ | mincer - if you have some old computer | May 30 22:31 |
| MinceR | also, you would still need to run 'recordmydesktop' on a computer with a nonfree browser running | May 30 22:31 |
| MinceR | formic_: i have mobile phones and tablets as well | May 30 22:32 |
| formic_ | so won't it already work on your non free mobile phone and tablets? | May 30 22:32 |
| MinceR | will they be nonfree? | May 30 22:32 |
| MinceR | better question yet, will the browser on them be nonfree? should it? | May 30 22:33 |
| formic_ | I know for a fact your mobile is non free | May 30 22:33 |
| MinceR | same case as on PC, should they be allowed to lock me into a nonfree browser? | May 30 22:33 |
| formic_ | gtg home now | May 30 22:34 |
| formic_ | they aren't mincer | May 30 22:34 |
| formic_ | you just want to use paid content for free, just steal it like everyone else | May 30 22:34 |
| MinceR | yet. | May 30 22:34 |
| MinceR | nope | May 30 22:34 |
| MinceR | i'm not talking about paid content | May 30 22:34 |
| MinceR | i'm talking about gratis video and audio on the web | May 30 22:34 |
| formic_ | nobody uses drm to protect free video | May 30 22:35 |
| MinceR | including video and audio sharing sites | May 30 22:35 |
| MinceR | yet. | May 30 22:35 |
| formic_ | are any right now? | May 30 22:35 |
| MinceR | if DRM is the way for them to lock you into nonfree codecs and nonfree browsers, they'll try to force it. | May 30 22:35 |
| MinceR | is there DRM support in official HTML5 video/audio right now? is it deployed in stable releases of mainstream browsers? | May 30 22:36 |
| formic_ | I'm leaving but my point about drm is that just because something is going to support it; doesn't mean everyone will automatically switch to DRM video. Some will and some won't. | May 30 22:36 |
| MinceR | and the some that will, will distort competition in the web browser market. | May 30 22:36 |
| formic_ | flash supports DRM | May 30 22:36 |
| formic_ | why isn't youtube already doing that | May 30 22:36 |
| MinceR | and they'll break the web further | May 30 22:36 |
| MinceR | trash is installed as a separate package | May 30 22:37 |
| formic_ | why aren't sites already using the drm in flash ? | May 30 22:37 |
| MinceR | so a free browser can run trash | May 30 22:37 |
| formic_ | flash is still used more than html5 video | May 30 22:37 |
| MinceR | trash is bad enough, though | May 30 22:37 |
| MinceR | trash should die, along with DRM on the web | May 30 22:37 |
| MinceR | before HTML5 gets infected by it as well | May 30 22:37 |
| formic_ | yeah well your argument fails | May 30 22:37 |
| MinceR | yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man. | May 30 22:37 |
| formic_ | flash has supported drm for years and nobody has jumped over to it | May 30 22:37 |
| formic_ | yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man. | May 30 22:37 |
| MinceR | they didn't need to | May 30 22:37 |
| formic_ | to you too | May 30 22:37 |
| formic_ | nobody *needs* to use drm html5 video either | May 30 22:38 |
| MinceR | trash kept changing often enough and was incompatible enough that not much competition appeared in flash players | May 30 22:38 |
| formic_ | im going, im not making overtime to argue with someone who is doomsaying | May 30 22:38 |
| MinceR | DRM doesn't belong on the web and it doesn't belong in web standards | May 30 22:38 |
| MinceR | or in any kind of free/open standard | May 30 22:38 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Land Destroyer: Atrocities Made to Order http://goo.gl/GRKOg #uk #usa #mic #stateterrorism | May 30 22:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] NYTimes Draws Connection Between Beastie Boys Lawsuit & Patent Trolls, Realizes IP Hinders Innovation - http://bit.ly/KJbnUU getting there | May 30 22:44 | |
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| DaemonFC | it seems AT&T and Comcast are both members of ALEC | May 30 22:49 |
| DaemonFC | but AT&T is much more deeply involved with them | May 30 22:49 |
| DaemonFC | Comcast has had to increase their speeds and lower their prices in Indiana because the state ignored one of the "model bills" they had proposed and subsidized fiber to the home, so Comcast was forced to go out and make upgrades too | May 30 22:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] blogged: Oh !Canada : Casseroles Night In Canada http://www.ur1.ca/9ex3r !CDNpoli #CasserolesNightInCanada #education #comeonout | May 30 22:51 | |
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| DaemonFC | last time I had Comcast, their 6 Mbps plan was the same price as their 15 Mbps plan is now | May 30 22:52 |
| DaemonFC | it seems they got pretty much everything they wanted in Minnesota though, so they never bothered to lower prices and upgrade their bandwidth plans there | May 30 22:52 |
| DaemonFC | my 6 Mbps DSL line struggles to pull in HD video streams | May 30 22:54 |
| DaemonFC | "buffering, buffering, buffering...." it's like being back on dial up if I try to watch 1080p video on Youtube | May 30 22:54 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Sean Parker: #Apple Tried To Keep #Spotify Out Of The US - http://tcrn.ch/JAFjoj I'm not surprised, but certainly appalled | May 30 22:54 | |
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| DaemonFC | this is the entire reason I upgraded my plan the last time! | May 30 22:55 |
| DaemonFC | " Apple Tried To Keep Spotify Out Of The US" | May 30 22:55 |
| DaemonFC | well, there's the consolation prize anyway | May 30 22:56 |
| DaemonFC | just refuse to allow them in the app store and don't specify a reason like Apple does with the rest of their competitors | May 30 22:56 |
| DaemonFC | I have an idea that cell phone companies love the idea of Spotify chugging along taking tons of bandwidth that they can cram the customer's bill with | May 30 22:57 |
| DaemonFC | it might be unlimited streaming, but since it is streaming, it means you end up downloading the file all over again every time you want to play it | May 30 22:58 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] California State Senate passes CC BY open textbook legislation; now moves to Assembly - http://goo.gl/JfZ87 Bill: http://goo.gl/9XkyW | May 30 22:58 | |
| DaemonFC | which, with the price of data plans these days, is unreasonable | May 30 22:58 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Megaupload Asks Court to Dismiss The Criminal Case - http://bit.ly/KJdGaz not with a bang but a whimper? | May 30 22:59 | |
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| MinceR | gn | May 30 23:03 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Can’t decide on a typeface? This flowchart will help you choose - http://tnw.co/JNLiHO clever & useful | May 30 23:04 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Four #ACTA Meeting Notes Documents Leak | !copyright related http://ping.fm/nXlIb | May 30 23:18 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Reshared post from Sean Bonner http://ur1.ca/9exhc | May 30 23:23 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Reshared post from Tatjana Kron http://ur1.ca/9exim | May 30 23:33 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Ist doch einfach: Herdprämie err Betreuungsgeld absägen, die gesparte Milliarde in die Kitas stecken, alle profitieren. #bastapolitik | May 30 23:43 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Vote for World Standards Day poster - http://ur1.ca/9exkj (sadly the contents are not CC :-() #fb #in | May 30 23:48 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !wrawesome Kitchener Casseroles at 8:00pm at Kitchener City Hall ... https://www.facebook.com/events/285866524843697/ | May 30 23:54 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] http://www.ur1.ca/9ex3r #CasserolesNightInCanada grab a wooden spoon & a pot - or two pots https://www.facebook.com/events/420350397995306/ | May 30 23:58 | |
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