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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jrepin/@jrepin] RT @kdecommunity !KDE software compilation 4.8.4 released → http://ur1.ca/9gmud — #linux #opensourceJun 08 00:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: KDE - KDE Ships June Updates to Plasma Workspaces, Applications and Platform .::. Size~: 20.32 KBJun 08 00:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] EFF Tech, Activism, & Legal address #CISPA at tonight's Bay Area Members' Speakeasy at 6PM. See you there. https://eff.org/r.3ab3Jun 08 00:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Members-Only Speakeasy: Bay Area | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 19.25 KBJun 08 00:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] By all means! ♻ @sirmacik: This is why you shouldn't live-tweet during someone's presentation bit.ly/MgUVfZJun 08 00:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] Hint & wink... All files are copyrighted except very old ones...Jun 08 01:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] Imagine people like me whose mother and father had the same last name before marriage and so it matches my last name. Change of name needed?Jun 08 01:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Windows Update Cracked http://ur1.ca/9gnyy #microsoft #flameJun 08 01:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Windows Update Cracked | Techrights .::. Size~: 81.66 KBJun 08 01:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] copyright holders would have to enforce first...Jun 08 01:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Another victory for #OpenAccess: past 25,000 signatures—and counting—on @Access2Research White House petition https://eff.org/r.a6cGJun 08 01:43
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Open Access Victory in Successful Access2Research Petition | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 38.32 KBJun 08 01:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] !GNU !Linuxlibre 3.4.1-gnu, 3.3.8-gnu, 3.2.19-gnu, and 3.0.33-gnu .mipsel.deb binaries for !gnewsense !yeeloong are now availableJun 08 02:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #FionaApple To Label: Back Off, I'm Connecting With My Fans http://goo.gl/Yz3giJun 08 02:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Fiona Apple To Label: Back Off, I'm Connecting With My Fans | Techdirt .::. Size~: 90.45 KBJun 08 02:46
DaemonFCmy credit card company is stupidJun 08 02:50
DaemonFC"Your site is down"Jun 08 02:50
DaemonFCCome back in Internet Explorer on WindowsJun 08 02:50
DaemonFC"How will that fix your site being down?"Jun 08 02:50
DaemonFCCall (1-800 number)Jun 08 02:50
DaemonFC*sigh*Jun 08 02:50
brendynhttp://www.windowsazure.com/en-us/manage/linux/Jun 08 02:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux virtual machines in Windows Azure .::. Size~: 22.45 KBJun 08 02:52
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DaemonFCCable internet: $30 a monthJun 08 03:07
DaemonFCGateway rental: $7 a monthJun 08 03:07
DaemonFCConfiguring gateway to send wifi thieves to Tub Girl: PricelessJun 08 03:07
scientesschestowitz, you get that info on how to host ogg files?Jun 08 03:08
*DaemonFC tosses all the letters he got from the US Senate telling him, basically, "thanks for your opinion, now we'll keep being scumbags"Jun 08 03:10
*DaemonFC sings that bit from Alice In Chains......Jun 08 03:10
DaemonFCoh, the senator don't want no drug program, he's been a dopehead for 30 years.....Jun 08 03:10
DaemonFCthe senator don't want no women, he prefers young boys in leather.....Jun 08 03:10
*DaemonFC head desksJun 08 03:11
DaemonFChttp://www.imdb.com/title/tt0102266/quotesJun 08 03:18
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Last Boy Scout (1991) - Memorable quotes .::. Size~: 100.01 KBJun 08 03:18
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formic_daemonfc - jealous ?Jun 08 03:29
DaemonFCoh yeahJun 08 03:29
DaemonFCthey're MINE, MIIIIIIINE!!!Jun 08 03:29
DaemonFC*as long as they were born on or after today's date in 1994Jun 08 03:30
DaemonFCerrrJun 08 03:30
DaemonFCon or beforeJun 08 03:30
formic_LOLJun 08 03:31
*DaemonFC 's brain jammed up and he became a Catholic priest for about 10 seconds or something....Jun 08 03:31
DaemonFCformic_: You know the definition of irony right?Jun 08 03:31
DaemonFCan altar boy named Niel Jun 08 03:31
formic_it was a freudian slipJun 08 03:31
DaemonFCwas notJun 08 03:31
DaemonFCformic_: It's like the Ferengi rules of acquisition, never can remember any of them except "Never cheat a Klingon.....unless you can get away with it"Jun 08 03:32
DaemonFCformic_: The sex crime laws have gone a little far though.... If someone sees you taking a piss in the middle of the forest, you can be required to register as a sex offender for the rest of your life.Jun 08 03:33
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DaemonFChttp://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTExNTUJun 08 03:47
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] Canonical Touts Its New Microsoft Partnership .::. Size~: 19.42 KBJun 08 03:47
formic_did the 12 year old trip over your lan cable?Jun 08 03:47
DaemonFChttp://blog.canonical.com/2012/06/07/official-ubuntu-images-now-available-on-windows-azure/Jun 08 03:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Official Ubuntu Images Now Available on Windows Azure «  Canonical Blog .::. Size~: 20.53 KBJun 08 03:49
DaemonFCformic_: Your motherJun 08 03:49
DaemonFCshe was so fat that I had to slap her thigh and ride the wave inJun 08 03:49
formic_this might come as a surprise, but my mom is actually a 12 year old boyJun 08 03:50
DaemonFCno, I got pissed and removed Empathy because it was interfering with Pidgin and Unity crashedJun 08 03:50
DaemonFCgo figureJun 08 03:50
DaemonFChttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/TechnicalOverview/Alpha1Jun 08 03:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: QuantalQuetzal/TechnicalOverview/Alpha1 - Ubuntu Wiki .::. Size~: 34.69 KBJun 08 03:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Why I’ll let my daughter shape her own digital identity http://goo.gl/BN7iz #fbJun 08 04:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♻ @RepZoeLofgren Pro-SOPA lobbyists are… asking members of Congress to retweet http://www.ur1.ca/9gole... instead: http://www.ur1.ca/9gokiJun 08 04:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Why I’ll let my daughter shape her own digital identity — Tech News and Analysis .::. Size~: 83.58 KBJun 08 04:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: ur1 Generator .::. Size~: 2.61 KBJun 08 04:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Pro-SOPA lobbyists... | Facebook .::. Size~: 24.37 KBJun 08 04:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @zotz good point !Jun 08 04:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] @evan No, in the morning... just didn't post until later.Jun 08 04:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @zotz Mother's maiden name is public record, & so horrifically insecure ~ using public info anyone can access as #securityQuestion" ? #failJun 08 04:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ars technica: New government report on IP doesn't say what Big Content thinks it says http://www.ur1.ca/9gom8 !copyright #lobbyJun 08 04:24
TechrightsBot-trTitle: New government report on IP doesn’t say what Big Content thinks it says | Ars Technica .::. Size~: 40.25 KBJun 08 04:24
brendynso did canonical actually make friends with microsoft, or is ms just allowing ubuntu for whatever reason of their own?Jun 08 04:28
DaemonFCmostly because it isn't Red Hat I'd guessJun 08 04:30
formic_canonical has oem dealsJun 08 04:31
DaemonFChttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhuKrga3eaU&feature=relatedJun 08 04:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: How Would You Like To Suck My Balls, Mr Garrison?       - YouTube .::. Size~: 146.68 KBJun 08 04:39
DaemonFChttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsFCSvqsqFA&feature=relatedJun 08 04:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Spelling bee: I have to spell Niggas???       - YouTube .::. Size~: 142.82 KBJun 08 04:40
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DaemonFChttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5C_2Xixjjk&feature=relatedJun 08 04:45
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Young Girl Drops C-word on National TV...Twice!       - YouTube .::. Size~: 137.63 KBJun 08 04:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] hay que elegirse uno de los dos ;-) ♻ @martinolivera: Usas Facebook? Apoyas el #SoftwareLibre?Jun 08 05:14
scienteshttp://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/12897.htmlJun 08 05:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: mjg59 | The security of Secure Boot .::. Size~: 22.37 KBJun 08 05:35
DaemonFCI feel weirdJun 08 05:40
DaemonFClike I'm coming down with the flu but it just hasn't quite hit yet *sigh*Jun 08 05:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Grrr morning!Jun 08 06:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] b0rked my system [ GRUB2 to be precise ] installing !fedora 17 yester-night :'( Now stuck running a live system as I try to fix itJun 08 07:34
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MinceRwow, now fedora is advertising restricted boot?Jun 08 07:46
MinceRwhat the actual fuck?Jun 08 07:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @openattitude: Why Red Hat's deal with Microsoft is a bad idea. (via ITWire) http://dlvr.it/1h8ThBJun 08 07:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] Now !debian unstable won't install ... I'm starting to get concernedJun 08 07:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Red Hat deal with Microsoft is a bad idea .::. Size~: 74.07 KBJun 08 07:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @openattitude Why Red Hat's deal with Microsoft is a bad idea. (via ITWire) http://dlvr.it/1h8ThBJun 08 07:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Red Hat deal with Microsoft is a bad idea .::. Size~: 74.07 KBJun 08 07:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] Wait what?Jun 08 08:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] RT @rysiek Oh !Jamendo, Y U no give #FLAC/#OGG download options? !cc We cannot be free if we're not free together http://rys.io/en/58Jun 08 08:19
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Free as in United :: RysioBrag .::. Size~: 11.2 KBJun 08 08:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Here's a simple solution to all "FRAND" patent cases: Make all of them Royalty Free (RF). Most of the current cases wi... http://b1t.it/bAkOJun 08 08:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Jan Wildeboer - Google+ - Here's a simple solution to all "FRAND" patent cases: Make… .::. Size~: 134.04 KBJun 08 08:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Oracle Starts Fighting a Good Fight, Should Drop Case Against Android http://ur1.ca/9gpla #swpats #oracle #linux #androidJun 08 08:44
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Oracle Starts Fighting a Good Fight, Should Drop Case Against Android | Techrights .::. Size~: 85.17 KBJun 08 08:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Linux Foundation Members That Pay Microsoft for Linux http://ur1.ca/9gpnd #linux #samsungJun 08 08:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux Foundation Members That Pay Microsoft for Linux | Techrights .::. Size~: 86.29 KBJun 08 08:59
schestowitzbeen designing wedding invitations for over a day now... ^_^Jun 08 09:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] every time the govt gives the "we can't afford ....." as an excuse to cut a valuable service for the needy, ask them how much the #Jubileee?Jun 08 09:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] not only the #Jubilee but #London2012 too, since tax payers are picking up the bulk of the bill for VIPs to have a fantastic timeJun 08 09:14
schestowitzLMAO http://www.youtube.com/redirect?q=http%3A%2F%2Fyoutu.be%2F-S4DZ_aWNuU&session_token=pekPf1r89rCGJ8c9UOc7YQolfh58MTMzOTIyOTg5OEAxMzM5MTQzNDk4Jun 08 09:22
TechrightsBot-trTitle: YouTube - Broadcast Yourself. .::. Size~: 22.66 KBJun 08 09:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] RT @Esther_Voet #TelAviv Gay Capital of the World hosts 14th #Gay Pride Parade: htz.li/LqJMKT #gay #gaykrantJun 08 09:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Our diamond jubilee volunteers were well treated http://goo.gl/w7Uoc in #bullshit mode #JubileeStewards #fb #slavelabour #exploitationJun 08 09:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Our diamond jubilee volunteers were well treated – we've nothing to hide | Molly Prince | Comment is free | The Guardian .::. Size~: 258.11 KBJun 08 09:23
DaemonFCwhat the hell is that?Jun 08 09:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #BBC staff can reclaim their holiday days if they are sick during time off http://goo.gl/A83xqJun 08 09:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Sick staff at BBC get extra holiday | The Sun |Showbiz|TV .::. Size~: 54.05 KBJun 08 09:26
DaemonFC“We’ve always been shameless about stealing great ideas,” said Steve Jobs, but now he pretends to have stuff “stolen” from him. Jun 08 09:36
DaemonFCschestowitz: That might be difficult to do when you're dead.Jun 08 09:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Neue Broschüre: #ACTA - Der Big Bang der Netzpolitik - http://bit.ly/KNjN0l nicely done (v @spielkamp @bendrath)Jun 08 09:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Neue Broschüre: ACTA - Der Big Bang der Netzpolitik | iRights.info .::. Size~: 44.36 KBJun 08 09:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Free software programmers should be paid, too - http://bit.ly/LHFwDy interesting point about using #kickstarter for #opensourceJun 08 09:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Free software programmers should be paid, too .::. Size~: 58.69 KBJun 08 09:41
MinceRr4wrJun 08 09:49
iophkSelling out: http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2012/06/canonical-partners-with-microsoft-to-support-ubuntu-on-azure/Jun 08 09:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Canonical partners with Microsoft to support Ubuntu on Azure | Ars Technica .::. Size~: 35.13 KBJun 08 09:50
MinceRindeedJun 08 09:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @kuro: "Money doesn't talk, it screams." And that's what we saw in #Wisconsin recall election http://is.gd/R6YzEl Democracy 2 be SOLD outJun 08 09:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Walker Wins Recall, Democrats Win Control of the Senate, Halting Right-Wing Agenda | Center for Media and Democracy .::. Size~: 53.88 KBJun 08 09:51
iophkThe naivety that somehow they will be the first partner to survive or benefit from partnership is not excusable.Jun 08 09:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @glynmoody: Free software programmers should be paid, too - http://bit.ly/LHFwDy interesting point about using #kickstarter for #FOSSJun 08 09:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Free software programmers should be paid, too .::. Size~: 58.69 KBJun 08 09:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @stefroelandt: #itinera econoom vraagt op #radio1 meer transparantie bij beslissingen vd overheid. # http://ur1. ...Jun 08 09:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @denniskestelle: Lasermade #FlatTurtle http://t.co/CUq8MBhdJun 08 09:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: Almost ready to leave for Paris. We're going to discuss Open Transport Data at/with #SNCF. http://t.co/ http://ur1. ...Jun 08 09:56
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DaemonFCI don't know why they'd bother with AzureJun 08 09:56
DaemonFCit's not wildly popularJun 08 09:57
MinceRi think they're desperate for visibility and for customersJun 08 09:57
MinceRand for "differentiating themselves"Jun 08 09:57
iophkYes, Azure is a bizarre choice.  Why go soft on M$ suddenly?  Amazon would be a wiser, safer, less toxic choice.Jun 08 09:58
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iophkIIRC even Oracle is offering hosting aka "Cloud" services.  Even they would be a safer choice.Jun 08 09:59
DaemonFCHow does Canonical claim to be able to support Vista Cloud anyway?Jun 08 09:59
DaemonFCit's not like they can fix any problems that it causes for them without asking Microsoft to do it for themJun 08 10:00
MinceRand the FUD will flowJun 08 10:00
iophkhttp://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2182854/microsoft-offer-ubuntu-1204-windows-azureJun 08 10:01
iophkThe FUD will flow and the problems will flow from trying to use Windows as a host.Jun 08 10:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft to offer Ubuntu 12.04 on Windows Azure - The Inquirer .::. Size~: 62.14 KBJun 08 10:01
iophkIt'll just soak up resources of Canonical trying to get Ubuntu to work on (broken) Azure.Jun 08 10:01
iophkThe returns would be much higher on competing hosting services.Jun 08 10:01
iophkFeeding Azure is just giving money to M$ to turn around and fight Linux / FOSSJun 08 10:02
iophkSame for Apple, it is feeding its antagonist: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/09/02/icloud_runs_on_microsoft_azure_and_amazon/Jun 08 10:03
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Apple's iCloud runs on Microsoft and Amazon services • The Register .::. Size~: 25.51 KBJun 08 10:03
neildarlowiophk: but M$ comes over, to its fanbase, as being linux-friendly. which is probably the point of the exercise.Jun 08 10:06
schestowitzMinceR: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_mm_hOPNJgJun 08 10:07
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Такси провалилось под асфальт       - YouTube .::. Size~: 147.8 KBJun 08 10:07
iophkIt's just for show to get people to let their guard down while stuff like UEFI / ARM goes on in the background.Jun 08 10:08
schestowitz[09:50] <TechrightsBot-tr> Title: Canonical partners with Microsoft to support Ubuntu on Azure | Ars Technica .::. Size~: 35.13 KBJun 08 10:08
schestowitzIt's not that badJun 08 10:08
MinceRand yet again canonical does what m$ wants them toJun 08 10:08
schestowitzMS was gonna use something anywayJun 08 10:08
schestowitzit's not BallnuxJun 08 10:08
MinceRand now even RH does what m$ wants them toJun 08 10:08
MinceR(and earlier debian did what they wanted)Jun 08 10:09
DaemonFCsomething smells good outsideJun 08 10:12
*DaemonFC is not used to smelling good things coming in from outsideJun 08 10:13
iophkM$ needs the linuxes right now a bit more than the linuxes need M$Jun 08 10:13
DaemonFCthey go out oft heir way to certify anything that's not RHELJun 08 10:13
DaemonFCit's part of a coordinated attempt to throw Microsoft's weight around to break Red HatJun 08 10:13
MinceRand now RH helps them outJun 08 10:19
MinceRi can't fathom whyJun 08 10:19
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DaemonFChttp://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2182738/intel-wont-license-atom-x86-architecture-chip-vendorsJun 08 10:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Intel won't license Atom x86 architecture to other chip vendors - The Inquirer .::. Size~: 63.87 KBJun 08 10:21
DaemonFCAMD has their own x86 Android projectJun 08 10:22
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DaemonFCit's not like the low level details of the hardware matter much with AndroidJun 08 10:22
DaemonFChttp://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2182673/idc-claims-windows-phone-overtake-ios-2015Jun 08 10:24
TechrightsBot-trTitle: IDC claims Windows Phone will overtake IOS in 2016 - The Inquirer .::. Size~: 68.76 KBJun 08 10:24
DaemonFCand what exactly are they smoking?Jun 08 10:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] voted for "MySQL"Jun 08 10:26
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DaemonFCthe only sane thing to do with Empathy and the Telepathy framework in Ubuntu is uninstall it so it stops conflicting with PidginJun 08 10:30
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DaemonFChow did they manage to make such a crippled Pidgin clone? (Wait, I know, it was GNOME that did it)Jun 08 10:31
DaemonFC:)Jun 08 10:31
DaemonFCits IRC support is terrible, it doesn't have plugins, it forgets all your settings, and it doesn't have en-US spell check supportJun 08 10:31
DaemonFCit's the most maddeningly frustrating god damned chat program since Windows MessengerJun 08 10:32
MinceR112507 < DaemonFC> and what exactly are they smoking?Jun 08 10:32
MinceRballmer's privates.Jun 08 10:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Always good to revisit, TC0: Total Cost of 0wnership of Windows - http://ur1.ca/9gq1l #fb #inJun 08 10:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] "Δικαιολογίες τέλος… « //ΠαραλληλοΓράφος//" from http://identi.ca/url/70336204Jun 08 10:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Δικαιολογίες τέλος… « //ΠαραλληλοΓράφος// .::. Size~: 224.47 KBJun 08 10:34
DaemonFC....and that's when I shot them, your honor.... (Dawn and Pedo Creep next door)Jun 08 10:36
DaemonFCPedo Creep snores like a freight trainJun 08 10:36
DaemonFCI can hear him through two wallsJun 08 10:36
DaemonFCI've held off on confronting the landlord about this, but this is insaneJun 08 10:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @jenssegers Ik ben er al, sorry ;)Jun 08 11:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Linux UEFI compromise reasonable, still sucks http://ur1.ca/9gq86 they never learn... [PDF] http://ur1.ca/2cpltJun 08 11:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux UEFI compromise reasonable, still sucks | ITworld .::. Size~: 126.04 KBJun 08 11:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Carmageddon Reincarnation Mac and Linux versions confirmed http://ur1.ca/9gq8p http://ur1.ca/9gq8q #games #linuxJun 08 11:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @martoche I'd be happy as well! Are you attending the event this evening?Jun 08 11:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: Arrivé à Paris! Apparemment, ici, ils ont le wifi dans les taxisJun 08 11:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Gentoo Does An x32 Stage 3 Release Candidate http://ur1.ca/9gq9m #gnu #linuxJun 08 11:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #PCLinuxOS (Kinda) Saved My Laptop http://ur1.ca/9gq9w #gnu #linuxJun 08 11:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Interview with Patrick #Volkerding of #Slackware http://ur1.ca/9gnth #gnu #linuxJun 08 11:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Judge throws out Motorola-Apple patent case - Chicago Sun-Times http://ping.fm/UGpXLJun 08 11:29
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DaemonFCI should run for the Indiana SenateJun 08 11:31
DaemonFCon a platform that includes taking all the pedocreeps out to the middle of Lake Michigan and throwing them overboardJun 08 11:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Less freedom is no freedom http://ur1.ca/9gqau what #RedHat should have done is file #antitrust complaint vs #MicrosoftJun 08 11:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Fedora 17 Review: It’s an Upstream Experience http://ur1.ca/9gqb4 #fedora #gnu #linuxJun 08 11:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Wonderful translation. Rings that burst out with a reasonable design. http://ur1.ca/9gqbj... http://b1t.it/bAn0Jun 08 11:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Kildall: "Steve Jobs is nothing. Steve Wozniak did it all, the hardware and the software. All Jobs did was hang around and take the credit."Jun 08 11:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "We have to let go of the notion that for Apple to win, Microsoft has to lose." ~Steve JobsJun 08 11:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #GNOME 3.5.2 first sights :p http://ur1.ca/9gkq2Jun 08 11:38
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DaemonFCI sent the landlord an email letting him know about the child molester next doorJun 08 11:38
DaemonFCwith a link to the guy's registration pageJun 08 11:39
DaemonFCblehJun 08 11:39
DaemonFCthe child molester is living with a woman who hasn't paid the landlord his rent since December and is inexplicably still living there anywayJun 08 11:39
roy_what did he do?Jun 08 11:39
*roy_ is now known as schestowitzJun 08 11:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @chalkahlom: @andyc great to see a dent from you. Wishing you a speedy recovery. #notpiningforthefjordsJun 08 11:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] MPlayer 1.1 Magically Surfaces With New Features http://ur1.ca/9gqcuJun 08 11:39
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schestowitzshow the page on him..Jun 08 11:40
DaemonFChttp://www.icrimewatch.net/offenderdetails.php?OfndrID=1281116&AgencyID=54839Jun 08 11:40
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schestowitz"Offender Against Children"Jun 08 11:40
schestowitzDoesn't say muchJun 08 11:40
schestowitz"35-42-4-3 - Child Molesting"Jun 08 11:41
schestowitzEwwwJun 08 11:41
schestowitz"Date Released:08/17/1998"Jun 08 11:41
DaemonFChttp://www.in.gov/legislative/ic/2010/title35/ar42/ch4.htmlJun 08 11:41
DaemonFCIC 35-42-4-3 Child MolestingJun 08 11:41
schestowitzDaemonFC:the sherrif looks a bit like your mayorJun 08 11:41
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schestowitz"Sentence:4 YEARS WITH 3 YEARS SUSPENDED"Jun 08 11:42
DaemonFCa person over the age of 21 who has sexual intercourse with a person under the age of 14Jun 08 11:42
schestowitzHe probably did something VERY disgustinghJun 08 11:42
schestowitzNow he just need to say he's a priestJun 08 11:42
schestowitzan d they'll let him off the hookJun 08 11:42
DaemonFCwell I'm pretty sure I heard him over there riding the shithouse door on the tunaboatJun 08 11:42
DaemonFCscreaming something about HallelujahJun 08 11:42
schestowitzmaybe he got a shave from DawnJun 08 11:43
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DaemonFCit was with Dawn though, she's 47, so it's legalJun 08 11:43
DaemonFCeven though it is disgusting and she doesn't have the intelligence or common sense that can be expected of most 13 year oldsJun 08 11:43
schestowitzhttp://www.muktware.com/3677/mark-shuttleworth-highly-recommends-windows-azureJun 08 11:44
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schestowitzjust got this mail titled "Re: Canonical now Microsoft Partner like SUSE?"Jun 08 11:44
iophkAre they selling out?Jun 08 11:44
iophkSounds like it is beginningJun 08 11:44
DaemonFC"HYUCK HYUCK HYUCK!!!! YOU A WEARIN MAH DICK OUT WHOAMAN!!!! HAH HAHAH AHHHHHHH!!!!!! BLAAAAH!!!! *HACK HACK COUGH*"Jun 08 11:45
DaemonFCpartial transcript of what goes on next doorJun 08 11:45
DaemonFCas heard through the wallJun 08 11:45
iophkUbuntu and Canonical used to have a lot of potential, they still do if they don't blow it.Jun 08 11:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] In case you were wondering, my previous post is about the "Aptitude Remote Controller Of Wireless". https://plus.goog... http://b1t.it/bAoyJun 08 11:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] For Mark Shuttleworth, it's money first, principles later http://ur1.ca/9gqdt so much for benevolent dictatorJun 08 11:46
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iophkPushing WIndows (Azure) is not going to help solve bug #1Jun 08 11:47
iophkhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1Jun 08 11:47
iophkrather the opposite.Jun 08 11:47
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iophkOne could argue that it's not even putting money first.  No partner has ever done well before.Jun 08 11:47
DaemonFCIt's not like I haven't tried to believe in god, it's just very difficult when you see the kind of people he supposedly created in his infinite wisdomJun 08 11:47
DaemonFC:)Jun 08 11:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "That’s extortion and we should call it what it is. To say, as Ballmer did, that there is undisclosed balance sheet liability" ~Mark S.Jun 08 11:48
DaemonFCschestowitz: Indiana lets you out after half your sentence, usuallyJun 08 11:49
DaemonFChe got 4 years so he probably did 2Jun 08 11:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Microsoft is asking people to pay them for patents[...] that’s illegal. It’s racketeering." ~Mark ShuttleworthJun 08 11:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] He's a criminal, sure, but he helps me make money. ~Canonical mentalityJun 08 11:49
DaemonFCUncle Fester just wants his moneyJun 08 11:50
iophkIf he wants anything it is probably the continued lock-in or even extending lock-in.  Money is only a tool in the control.Jun 08 11:52
iophk"I have tentatively decided that the case should be dismissed with prejudice because neither party can establish a right to relief,"Jun 08 11:52
iophkhttps://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9227891/U.S._judge_cancels_Motorola_Apple_patent_trialJun 08 11:52
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iophkCase is being thrown out.Jun 08 11:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[torproject/@torproject] Remember to sign up for the EFF/ORG/Tor Speakeasy event in London next week: https://supporters.eff.org/civicrm/event/info?reset=1&id=25Jun 08 11:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Shuttleworth adopted the mentality of a Microsoft MVP or business partner. Never mind the crimes, if it helps me make money, I'll perfume itJun 08 11:54
iophkAgain, it might not help him make money.  Partners never survive well.Jun 08 11:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The oil is cheaper now, I can drive around more. So what if we bombed some "brown people"... [Carlin's term]Jun 08 11:56
DaemonFCschestowitz: It's on the way back upJun 08 11:57
DaemonFCI held out for $3.40 a gallon and then topped up my tank and filled about 20 gallons of gas cansJun 08 11:57
DaemonFCit's back up at $3.70 nowJun 08 11:59
DaemonFCI have the advantage of not having to drive around too muchJun 08 12:00
DaemonFCso I wait until I don't think it will go any lower for a while and top upJun 08 12:00
DaemonFCI can probably hold out a few months Jun 08 12:00
DaemonFChmmm, landlord says that's not himJun 08 12:02
DaemonFCthe resemblance is strikingJun 08 12:02
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DaemonFCoh well, he'll get tired of not getting rent at some pointJun 08 12:03
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DaemonFChe just sent me a replyJun 08 12:05
DaemonFCsaid Dawn is moving anywayJun 08 12:06
DaemonFClolJun 08 12:06
DaemonFCwell, he knows about herJun 08 12:06
DaemonFC*he knows how I feel about herJun 08 12:06
DaemonFCschestowitz: My opinion about her isn't just based on her screwing around, and it has nothing to do with her being a womanJun 08 12:07
DaemonFCa nasty person is a nasty personJun 08 12:07
DaemonFCfactors to consider when making that judgement of a person are numerous Jun 08 12:08
DaemonFCpersonal hygiene Jun 08 12:08
DaemonFCcigarette smokerJun 08 12:09
DaemonFCalcoholicJun 08 12:09
DaemonFCshe's the biggest drama queen I've ever seenJun 08 12:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The videos show a first attempt to demonstrate the application. It is difficult to demonstrate without dumping a stream http://ur1.ca/9gqh8Jun 08 12:09
DaemonFCand the people she associates with are all like that tooJun 08 12:09
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DaemonFCunbathed, missing teethJun 08 12:09
DaemonFCso onJun 08 12:10
DaemonFChow hard is it to take a shower every day or two?Jun 08 12:10
DaemonFCa bar of soap is maybe 30 centsJun 08 12:10
DaemonFCyou'll use maybe 7-8 cents worth of water and a few cents worth of soapJun 08 12:12
*DaemonFC doesn't see why basic cleanliness seems to evade poor peopleJun 08 12:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[faither/@faither] Also Gwenview crashes all the time for me :-(Jun 08 12:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] Now that Canonical sold out to Vole, just like Novell did, it's time for distro hopping again, is *any* distro safe for that tyrant racket?Jun 08 12:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] #Debian and #Gentoo are probably safe, since both are community driven distro's IIRC.Jun 08 12:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Quantal Quetzal Alpha 1 Release of Ubuntu " http://ur1.ca/9gq4a now that there's no #Kubuntu there, I've lost interest in CanonicalJun 08 12:34
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1693162Jun 08 12:37
TechrightsBot-tr@antoniodias@joindiaspora.com: Jun 08 12:37
TechrightsBot-tr  Photo by antoniodias@joindiaspora.com: https://joindiaspora.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/images/thumb_medium_e69dbca8cafcdf701d19.jpgJun 08 12:37
DaemonFC"just like Novell did?"Jun 08 12:50
DaemonFCthat's going a bit farJun 08 12:50
MinceRsomewhat like novell did? :>Jun 08 12:51
MinceRcanonical did advertise winblows azure in their press releaseJun 08 12:51
DaemonFCschestowitz http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/quantal/alpha-1/Jun 08 12:51
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DaemonFCMinceR: they haven't paid Microsoft anything or acknowledged their patents afaikJun 08 12:53
DaemonFCthey dumped Mono in 12.04Jun 08 12:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Pushing WIndows (Azure) is not going to help solve bug #1" ~person in #techrights (freenode IRC) http://ur1.ca/3rqr2Jun 08 13:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] Planned intermittent network downtime June 9-10 http://dlvr.it/1hMCSgJun 08 13:03
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/ralpost/status/211049882042114049?iid=am-37902443013391531878666337&nid=4+status_timestamp&uid=26603208Jun 08 13:14
TechrightsBot-tr@ralpost: @schestowitz Mark S isn't doing this to enrich himself. He was already super-rich when he founded Ubuntu project.Jun 08 13:14
schestowitzSo he helps enrich BallmerJun 08 13:14
schestowitzBallmer's legal expenses in anti-Android cases needs a boostJun 08 13:15
schestowitzMS can't get more loans perhapsJun 08 13:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] visited #Sainsbuys for top up groceries today for a change, mucho impressed - it's only an extra few mins walk than #Tesco too #resultJun 08 13:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @ralpost Why would anyone who owns one of these http://ur1.ca/9gqul try to make more money by building a Debian-based Linux distro?Jun 08 13:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] imagine the embarrassment if #Ukraine were forced to play all their games without their fans in the stadium over #racism -it'd motivate themJun 08 13:18
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/ml2mst/status/211067131708706816?iid=am-209358414613391573004366526&nid=4+status_timestamp&uid=26603208Jun 08 13:19
TechrightsBot-tr@ml2mst: @schestowitz MeeToo® (lost interest in Canonical), going Debian, remember ditched openSUSE when Novell sold out to Vole :-pJun 08 13:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] So my motorized projector screen has arrived today. Now to put it on the wall.That's the project for tomorrow morning.... http://b1t.it/bAqpJun 08 13:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Bug #1: "CRITICAL IN PROGRESS #1 Microsoft has a majority market share" assigned to Mark Shuttleworth. Fox and hens. http://goo.gl/KK9XnJun 08 13:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] just when the entire !football world is watching, & your country is centre stage, to have your unwillingness to tackle #racism laid bareJun 08 13:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] if the dude wanted a career stealing, he should have became a politician http://goo.gl/aM8d6 #expenseaccounts #corruptionJun 08 13:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] a career fiddling expense accounts would have gotten him well up the ladder, perhaps even a position & title in the #LordsJun 08 13:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Invitation to #OpenSUSE developers http://ur1.ca/9gqvk "I know that posting this message to an OpenSUSE list will be controversial."Jun 08 13:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @martoche Sure! I'll let you know when I have time. I stay until tomorrow evening, so maybe tomorrow wo http://ur1. ...Jun 08 13:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] anyone else smell something iffy in the sudden suicide switch of #Flame? smells like it's been turned over to the #FBI to use #pleabargainJun 08 13:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] why else would you go to great lengths to create & deploy it, only to kill itJun 08 13:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] either that or it was written by the #FBI and they want the evidence destroyed before it's examined too closely & leads back to themJun 08 13:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @m4nima1 ExtremeTech » The Pirate Bay evades ISP blockade with IPv6, can do it 18 septillion more times - http://b1t.it/bAqlJun 08 13:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] I'm off for a couple of hours, replacing Ubuntu 12.04 with Debian Testing, fron Net install L8terJun 08 13:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] The '95 layout and the colours surely make you angry. Thank you, BAAM - British Association of Anger Management. http... http://b1t.it/bAqDJun 08 13:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "[D]evelopers should be cautious in believing promises made by this “new” Microsoft." -Jim Zemlin http://goo.gl/RPsQ9 #swpatsJun 08 13:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Bill [Gates] told Schwartz .... Sun would have to pay Microsoft for every download of Openoffice." http://ur1.ca/9gr05 #swpatsJun 08 13:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Microsoft propaganda/spin: great news. Now Microsoft is selling Linux. Microsoft internal memos: finally we control Linux distribution.Jun 08 13:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Double entendregate: did President #Obama make a blowjob joke? http://goo.gl/4ue8Q of all the genuine reasons to criticise him, seriously?Jun 08 13:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Ballmer claims Red Hat customers owe #Microsoft money http://ur1.ca/4kyzaJun 08 13:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Double entendregate: did President Obama make a blowjob joke? | Oliver Burkeman | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 241.81 KBJun 08 13:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Claim: Encrypted Chat Developer Detained, Interrogated at US Border http://ur1.ca/9gmiw human rights is a form of terrorismJun 08 13:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] If software ceases to be free, everyone loses. Except those in power. http://ur1.ca/9gr1m Power corrupts.Jun 08 13:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Claim: Encrypted Chat Developer Detained, Interrogated at US Border .::. Size~: 106.62 KBJun 08 13:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #FBI accused over removal of data http://ur1.ca/9gr1u imperialism or state cyber-terrorism (for corporations of course)? #bananarepublic #nzJun 08 13:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] You can't break the law when you *are* the international law, and laws expand through treaties, signed and paid for by companies.Jun 08 13:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Germany readying offensive cyberwarfare unit, parliament told http://ur1.ca/9gr23 when #China does this we call it "rogue"Jun 08 13:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Intel "improving" #Android - but is it willing to share? http://ur1.ca/9gr3s Like missionaries "improve", spreading x86 religion ($)Jun 08 13:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Hat's off to #Apple for "magical" market #innovation http://ur1.ca/9gr4dJun 08 13:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "In the short term, Apple’s technological and industrial design prowess can help to prop up dying business models." ~Timothy LeeJun 08 13:51
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1693094Jun 08 13:52
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Kildall: "Steve Jobs is nothing. Steve Wozniak did it all, the hardware and the software. All Jobs did was hang around and take the credit."Jun 08 13:52
schestowitz"Kildall certainly knew what he was talking about."Jun 08 13:52
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1693077Jun 08 13:52
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Less freedom is no freedom  http://nicubunu.blogspot.co.uk/2012/06/less-freedom-is-no-freedom.html what #RedHat should have done is file #antitrust complaint vs #MicrosoftJun 08 13:52
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: nicu's FOSS'n'stuff: Less freedom is no freedom .::. Size~: 137.97 KBJun 08 13:52
schestowitz"Just a reminder, if you didn't already sign the Stand up for your freedom to install free software statement on the fsf website, please look at it : )"Jun 08 13:52
schestowitzhttps://www.fsf.org/campaigns/secure-boot-vs-restricted-boot/statementJun 08 13:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Stand up for your freedom to install free software — Free Software Foundation — working together for free software .::. Size~: 43.77 KBJun 08 13:53
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1693126Jun 08 13:53
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Shuttleworth adopted the mentality of a Microsoft MVP or business partner. Never mind the crimes, if it helps me make money, I'll perfume itJun 08 13:53
schestowitz"Oh, I'm so surprised that Shuttleworth is not the nice uncle you've all been longing for after all. Not."Jun 08 13:53
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1692804Jun 08 13:54
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Linux Foundation Members That Pay Microsoft for Linux http://ur1.ca/9gpnd #linux #samsungJun 08 13:54
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schestowitz"Samsung is not an MS ally, it's a MS customer for PCs: big difference."Jun 08 13:54
schestowitzSamsung helps Microsoft a lot and is a DRM allyJun 08 13:54
schestowitz"... and they pay the MS Android tax, of course."Jun 08 13:54
oiaohmschestowitz: to be correct Samsung also is a heavy ally for the Linux foundation as well. Jun 08 13:54
oiaohmand a lot of prior Linux projects.Jun 08 13:55
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1689773Jun 08 13:55
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Ubuntu 12.10 Sets To Make #ARM Even Stronger http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ubuntu_1210_arm1&num=1 #linuxJun 08 13:55
oiaohmSo samsung is fairly much trying to have a foot in both camps.Jun 08 13:55
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schestowitz"Jun 08 13:55
schestowitz@Olivier: It's complicated, clearly it's not a case of "bad" or "good", but the good work that Canonical does for the GNU/Linux community tends to get lost in the avalanche of publicity that they create for overall brand.Jun 08 13:55
schestowitzI discussed the company reputation with Chris Kenyon (VP Sales & Business Development, Canonical) recently, and urged him to raise awareness of the low level development work that they do.Jun 08 13:55
schestowitzPersonally I think Canonical should try harder to win Free Software developer mindshare. Acknowledging that Ubunutu is a version of GNU/Linux on ubuntu.com would be a good start!Jun 08 13:55
schestowitz"Jun 08 13:55
schestowitz"Ubuntu is a major participant in Linaro, wich is Linux on ARM. They have more than 20 full-time engineers in Linaro."Jun 08 13:55
schestowitz"edit: *which is *"Jun 08 13:55
oiaohmAlso Shuttleworth I am not supprised with.Jun 08 13:55
DaemonFCyeah, I liked the part where they said they weren't under an obligation to release the GPL/LGPL parts of my blu ray player firmware to meJun 08 13:55
schestowitz"So... thanks to GNU GCC... oh, fun, wasn't GNU that project which didn't deserve credit in the name of this operating system? You know, that which is usually called by the name of the kernel..."Jun 08 13:55
schestowitz"@JanKusanagi nail on the head."Jun 08 13:55
DaemonFCthat eventually changed once I pestered them about it Jun 08 13:56
schestowitz"OK, OK Ubuntu is bad, lol !"Jun 08 13:56
schestowitz"Ubuntu is just bad for a conscious and responsible Free Software community to (further) evolve."Jun 08 13:56
DaemonFCOK. This is being blown entirely out of proportion.Jun 08 13:56
oiaohmDaemonFC: samsung is not unique for that problem.Jun 08 13:56
DaemonFCAzure? Blecth. OK. Jun 08 13:56
DaemonFCbut this is no Novell dealJun 08 13:57
schestowitzCanonical needs to be more humble and attribute more... not attribute Microsoft Skype by promoting it at the front page of the Web site.Jun 08 13:57
DaemonFCwhen it is, feel free to call it thatJun 08 13:57
oiaohmAzure does something to MS future patent casesJun 08 13:57
oiaohmMostly screws a lot up.Jun 08 13:57
DaemonFCif you want to get nit picky about the deal to certify Ubuntu on Azure you will have to start speaking out against every other distribution that does itJun 08 13:58
DaemonFClike CentOSJun 08 13:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Open source meets capitalism: Collaborate by competing http://goo.gl/FflB4Jun 08 13:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Australian Gov't Chooses 'Consumer Advocate' For Secret Anti-Piracy Meetings: The Chairman Of The Copyright Council http://goo.gl/KrRg5Jun 08 13:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Internet #trolls, here’s a song congratulating you on all your hard work http://goo.gl/eIVVsJun 08 13:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] speaking of #trolls - I've still not heard back from #ArsTechinca about their employment policies - not even to tell me they got the emailJun 08 13:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] speaking of #trolls - I've still not heard back from #ArsTechnica about their employment policies - not even to tell me they got the emailJun 08 13:58
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schestowitz"Slackware!!" https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1689718Jun 08 13:59
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Users voted for the best XFCE-based distribution... again!  http://linuxblog.darkduck.com/2012/05/users-voted-for-best-xfce-based.html #xfce #linuxJun 08 13:59
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MinceRDaemonFC: i'm getting nitpicky about the press release in which a GNU/Linux distributor that regularly attacks other distributors praises winblows.Jun 08 13:59
schestowitz"news and a little better: http://linuxblog.darkduck.com/2011/09/users-voted-for-best-kde-based-linux.html "Jun 08 13:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Linux advocates who sometimes criticise #Ubuntu are not "bashing" Ubuntu; they just keep Canonical's (and Mark's) ego in check.Jun 08 13:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] you'd think any respectable site would at least have the courtesy of an email telling me they'd got the contact, but sadly not #ArsTechnicaJun 08 13:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Collabora and Fluendo launch GStreamer SDK http://ur1.ca/9gr63Jun 08 13:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] then again, no respectable site would employ a proud & experienced #troll as a journalist either #ArsTechnica - maybe they're a matchJun 08 13:59
schestowitz"I still don't understand your problem. He isn't forcing anyone to support him, and he certainly didn't write anything blaming the community in writing nor in speech should it fail. That is just a load of lies that you must have picked up from a third party, for the benefit of the doubt."Jun 08 13:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Microsoft has built an impressive new entrant" ~Debian.org... No, I'm just messin' with cha'! It's this guy http://ur1.ca/2a57xJun 08 14:03
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schestowitzoiaohm: yes, Samsung helps bothJun 08 14:03
schestowitzbut the problem is, Microsoft is gagging those who can complain about its crimesJun 08 14:03
schestowitzLike B&N Jun 08 14:03
schestowitzit pays to allow itself to carry on extortionJun 08 14:03
formic_nobody is praising windowsJun 08 14:03
schestowitzLF is silensed tooJun 08 14:04
schestowitzAs its members would not approve of complaints about Microsoft.Jun 08 14:04
schestowitzNokia/ELop for instanceJun 08 14:04
DaemonFChttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Mahoney#Residency_and_Sex_ScandalsJun 08 14:05
DaemonFClolJun 08 14:05
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DaemonFCthe guy that lives at the dog track or the guy that lives at the horse barnJun 08 14:05
formic_I'm thinking Ubuntu will have secure boot on Dell hardware.Jun 08 14:05
oiaohmformic_: Maybe not.Jun 08 14:06
formic_Perhaps other OEM's tooJun 08 14:06
DaemonFCthat's almost as bad as Indiana's senator Lugar selling his home in Indianapolis in 1976 and living in Virginia for 36 years without an Indiana addressJun 08 14:06
formic_oiaohm: there is no reason they can'tJun 08 14:06
DaemonFCbefore someone finally said anything about itJun 08 14:06
oiaohmformic_: not all dell hardware is for Ubuntu.Jun 08 14:06
oiaohmformic_: High end hardware is redhat targeted from dell.Jun 08 14:06
formic_oiaohm: distros can make deals with OEMs, Redhat figured it cost too much (they aren't in that business)Jun 08 14:06
formic_I bet redhat will have secure boot on oems that support RHELJun 08 14:07
oiaohmformic_: redhat is also paying MS 99 dollars for a shimJun 08 14:07
formic_oiaohm: soJun 08 14:07
oiaohmformic_: so they can use anything with a MS signing key.Jun 08 14:07
DaemonFCwhich goes to Verisign in the endJun 08 14:07
formic_oiaohm: that is cheaper than dealing with oems directlyJun 08 14:07
formic_less effort tooJun 08 14:07
DaemonFCjust turn the fucking thing offJun 08 14:08
oiaohmformic_: also OEMs you can not be sure will deal with you.Jun 08 14:08
formic_oiaohm: exactlyJun 08 14:08
DaemonFCit's too much of a hassle even if it does workJun 08 14:08
oiaohmUEFI is a complete stuff up.Jun 08 14:08
formic_nothing wrong with UEFIJun 08 14:08
formic_its 'secure boot'Jun 08 14:08
oiaohmformic_: really there is a lot wrong with the secure boot in it.Jun 08 14:08
formic_which is a double edged swordJun 08 14:08
oiaohmformic_: and there is a lot wrong with EFI its self.Jun 08 14:08
formic_and there is even more wrong with regular BIOSJun 08 14:08
oiaohmformic_: redhat boot developer knows efi inside and out.Jun 08 14:09
oiaohmformic_: and yes EFI is worse than normal bios.Jun 08 14:09
formic_noJun 08 14:09
DaemonFCthere's nothing wrong with my BIOSJun 08 14:09
oiaohmIt isJun 08 14:09
DaemonFCit boots my PCJun 08 14:09
DaemonFCit doesn't tell me what software I'm permitted to use on my propertyJun 08 14:09
formic_also: you can use uefi, secure boot, to lock down your linux system with custom keysJun 08 14:09
oiaohmEFI is heading to the point of containing more code than the Linux kernel.Jun 08 14:09
DaemonFCif they let you add custom keysJun 08 14:10
DaemonFCmost of them won'tJun 08 14:10
formic_actually they have to on x86Jun 08 14:10
oiaohmMost of it being duplicated bloat.Jun 08 14:10
formic_plus, if you buy a computer with windows, i dont give a shit how much microsoft fucks youJun 08 14:10
oiaohmformic_: coreboot also could do secure boot.Jun 08 14:10
oiaohmformic_: more tidy and smaller.Jun 08 14:10
formic_its your own fault for buying a microsoft pcJun 08 14:11
oiaohmAt least arm for most things is going uboot and other saner solutions.Jun 08 14:11
formic_i build my own computers to avoid the microsoft taxJun 08 14:12
formic_and eco taxJun 08 14:12
oiaohmuboot on arm is really simple.  Load the kernel check the kernel pass it a list of hardware in the system then let it do its own thing.Jun 08 14:12
oiaohmEFI gets insane with its own drivers and its own harddrive partition.Jun 08 14:12
MinceRformic_ is write-onlyJun 08 14:12
oiaohmSo EFI say by by to fast boot times.Jun 08 14:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] MS Attempts to Build a New Monopoly http://ur1.ca/9gr7u "Are you paying attention, US Department of Justice?"Jun 08 14:13
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oiaohmformic_: basically UEFI and EFI are both broken ideas.   Bios was bad.  Mostly for doing events behind the OS.Jun 08 14:14
formic_motherboard sales are going to go upJun 08 14:14
oiaohmformic_: really those have been dropping.Jun 08 14:15
oiaohmformic_: reason more people use tablets and other things not pc's.Jun 08 14:15
formic_oiaohm: they will go back up when win8 and secure boot come into the pictureJun 08 14:15
oiaohmNoJun 08 14:15
oiaohmThat is wishful thinking.Jun 08 14:15
formic_oiaohm: people will need to replace their oem motherboard to install a pirated copy of windows, or a legacy version of windowsJun 08 14:15
formic_nevermind linux, windows pirates will push motherboard salesJun 08 14:16
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/ml2mst/status/211083456434810882?iid=am-37327486213391611925823416&nid=4+status_timestamp&uid=26603208Jun 08 14:16
TechrightsBot-tr@ml2mst: @schestowitz: Just like when Novell sold out to Microsoft. I am not ditching #gnu #linux I am ditching Ubuntu in favour Debian now :-pJun 08 14:16
oiaohmformic_: you can fake secure boot in bootloader.Jun 08 14:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "US economy is visibly slowing down as the effects of QE2 wear off and Europe is yet again on the precipice of disaster" http://ur1.ca/9gr8dJun 08 14:16
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oiaohmformic_: Its just turn one flag on for the OS.Jun 08 14:16
formic_oiaohm: either way, microsoft doesnt scare me, im not worriedJun 08 14:16
formic_oiaohm: microsoft can go fuck themselves while i build custom pcsJun 08 14:16
oiaohmformic_: piraties will have zero reason to upgrade there hardware.Jun 08 14:16
formic_oiaohm: gamesJun 08 14:17
formic_oiaohm: when I worked at canadacomputers.com - most of the custom pc's we built were no-os (the user had pirated windows xp)Jun 08 14:18
oiaohmformic_: there is no real direct x improvement with windows 8Jun 08 14:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @ml2mst Just like when Novell sold out to Microsoft. I am not ditching #gnu #linux I am ditching Ubuntu in favour Debian now :-pJun 08 14:18
formic_oiaohm: hardware upgrades for gamesJun 08 14:18
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oiaohmformic_:  that is normal turn over rates.Jun 08 14:18
formic_oiaohm: i dont see why anyone wouldnt upgrade their gaming pc because of some nonsenseJun 08 14:18
oiaohmformic_: there is going to be no magical speed up with windows 8Jun 08 14:19
formic_oiaohm: windows 8 has a lot of stuff turned offJun 08 14:19
formic_no magical speedup, but less crap runningJun 08 14:19
oiaohmformic_: there is a fixed number of gamers updating there machines all the time.Jun 08 14:19
formic_there will be a reason to upgrade hardware, just no reason to upgrade OSJun 08 14:19
formic_ill be keeping win7 on my gaming rig, still plan to upgrade the hardwareJun 08 14:20
oiaohmformic_: Really that could be problemmatic.Jun 08 14:20
formic_metro wont be a gaming platformJun 08 14:20
formic_problemmatic in what wayJun 08 14:20
oiaohmI expect some hardware well end up with there firmware in the EFIJun 08 14:21
formic_soJun 08 14:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] New: RMS' April 2012 Trip to Tunisia: Photos from Tunis and Monastir http://ur1.ca/9gfu1 #Microsoft #corruption there: http://ur1.ca/9gr98Jun 08 14:21
oiaohmWindows 7 on EFI is not exactly fun.Jun 08 14:21
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formic_oiaohm: dont forget, i do NOT buy oem computersJun 08 14:22
formic_oiaohm: ill be able to pick my motherboardJun 08 14:22
oiaohmI am not looking forwards to windows 8 certified motherboards.Jun 08 14:22
oiaohmSince with no cmos battery that will equal secure boot on.Jun 08 14:22
oiaohmOr flat cmos battery.Jun 08 14:22
formic_you can turn it offJun 08 14:23
oiaohmOnly if you have a working battery.Jun 08 14:23
formic_ASUS boards will have the option to turn it off and use custom keysJun 08 14:23
oiaohmOn x86Jun 08 14:23
formic_thats what I useJun 08 14:23
formic_ARM, i use androidJun 08 14:23
oiaohmcustom keysJun 08 14:23
formic_i wouldnt buy a windows tabletJun 08 14:23
oiaohmor redhat shim.Jun 08 14:24
formic_anyone buying a windows tablet to load linux is an idiotJun 08 14:24
oiaohmReally I am considering paying 100 dollars for my own personal shim.Jun 08 14:24
oiaohmJust so I can run what ever I want.Jun 08 14:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Big Tobacco Cash Floods California http://ur1.ca/9gr9g 'MSNBC's Rachel Maddow summed it up: "All it takes is unlimited corporate money."'Jun 08 14:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "People said I should accept the world. Bullshit! I don't accept the world." ~Richard StallmanJun 08 14:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "The resonable man adapts himself to the world... Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man." ~George Bernard ShawJun 08 14:24
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formic_Ill just use a custom key so I can prevent microsoft signed stuff from workingJun 08 14:25
oiaohmThis is something that I never got why goverments don' t tax advertising on a progressive scale.Jun 08 14:25
formic_I also run Fedora, so its not something i would really need to worry about anywaysJun 08 14:26
oiaohmformic_: I do repairs on different machines.Jun 08 14:26
oiaohmformic_: so having a person shim to let me in I will find handy.Jun 08 14:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Moglen: "the death of mr Jobs was a positive event." because "he hated sharing". Didn't invent either. http://ur1.ca/9gr9wJun 08 14:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #KDE Ships June Updates to Plasma Workspaces, Applications and Platform http://ur1.ca/9gra5 most innovative desktopJun 08 14:26
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formic_:)Jun 08 14:26
DaemonFCwow, cigarette tax is actually higher in Indiana than in CaliforniaJun 08 14:26
formic_DaemonFC: not as high as it is in CanadaJun 08 14:26
DaemonFCof course, I think the tax should be at least $10 a packJun 08 14:26
formic_DaemonFC: a small pack of king size cigs (cheap brand) $6.80Jun 08 14:27
oiaohmDaemonFC: In australia they are not allowed to advertise.Jun 08 14:27
DaemonFCit's not like they're a necessityJun 08 14:27
oiaohmDaemonFC: this include they are not allowed to be in public view in shops.Jun 08 14:27
DaemonFCsome states tax food, but barely tax tobacco at allJun 08 14:27
DaemonFC(like Tennessee)Jun 08 14:27
oiaohmDaemonFC: Australia tobacco highly taxed and no advertising of any form allowed.Jun 08 14:28
DaemonFCif you have to tax something, then tax the shit out of something that's a nasty vice which nobody needsJun 08 14:28
formic_negative warnings on ciggs actually do the oppositeJun 08 14:28
formic_the thrill of doing something dangerous arouses smokersJun 08 14:28
formic_makes them smoke moreJun 08 14:28
DaemonFCevery time the taxes go up, the cigarette companies either cut their base price per pack to get them back down again so people keep buying themJun 08 14:29
oiaohmformic_: really australia did study that.Jun 08 14:29
formic_the gov't taxes smokes, so it causes them to get more moneyJun 08 14:29
oiaohmformic_: it comes down to how revolting the picture is.Jun 08 14:29
DaemonFCor send out more coupons and see who responds by buying them at the price the coupon gave themJun 08 14:29
MinceRDaemonFC: the more inflated the price is, the more sense it makes to sell it illegallyJun 08 14:29
oiaohmformic_: Yes warning with horid picture turns them off.Jun 08 14:29
DaemonFCif you use the coupons they will send you moreJun 08 14:29
MinceRDaemonFC: see prohibition eraJun 08 14:29
oiaohmformic_: a plan text wanning does not work.Jun 08 14:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Android: http://ur1.ca/9gra8 hypeOS: http://ur1.ca/9gra9 share vs. purchaseJun 08 14:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @opengovme: RT @politik_digital: Gestern fand der zweite #Berlin Open Data Day statt - wir haben für e http://p.ost.im/p/eW7pMkJun 08 14:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @MyOpenArchive: Open Access Survey - The Summary : Survey of Academic Attitudes towards Open Access and http://p.ost.im/p/eWWw37Jun 08 14:29
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DaemonFCso there's a discriminatory pricing model in effect where everyone buys cigarettes at the maximum price they are willing to payJun 08 14:30
formic_oiaohm: warnings dont work when they include fact and fictionJun 08 14:30
formic_oiaohm: every now and then I find false claims, or claims they cant proveJun 08 14:30
DaemonFCMinceR: I think the federal government should set the high taxJun 08 14:30
formic_oiaohm: most are valid but they sneak them in thereJun 08 14:30
formic_oiaohm: just like the government marijuana propagandaJun 08 14:30
oiaohmformic_: Australian warning where chosen by the medical board.Jun 08 14:31
formic_Marijuana is a GATEWAY DRUG!! DUN DUN DUUUUUN!!!!Jun 08 14:31
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oiaohmformic_: Not the company selling it.Jun 08 14:31
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formic_oiaohm: yeah same with Canada,Jun 08 14:31
formic_oiaohm: its Health Canada that writes themJun 08 14:31
formic_the warnings take up 80% of the packageJun 08 14:31
DaemonFCI think people should just pay me $10 a day for 30 years with the promise that I will just shoot them at the end Jun 08 14:32
formic_they could make ciggs that came in a black pack, called 'Tumors' with a skull and crossbones on it. People would be lining up from all over.Jun 08 14:32
oiaohmThe tobbaco companies are fighting plain packaging here.Jun 08 14:32
DaemonFCit would be so much more merciful to themselves than death by smokingJun 08 14:32
oiaohmAll other addcitive medications in australia have to be in white boxes with black text yes the font and size is defined.Jun 08 14:33
oiaohmMarijuana as a gateway drug was case of lack of full research that is mostly from tainting in the illegal market.Jun 08 14:34
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DaemonFChttp://www.freep.com/article/20120608/NEWS07/120608017/Suicides-among-U-S-troops-2012Jun 08 14:35
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DaemonFCthere's been a lot of those creepy "don't kill yourself" PSAs on late night TV lately, directed at soldiersJun 08 14:35
oiaohmformic_: interesting property of hemp famaly.  It will abosobe active chemical of cokecain. If that is smoked near it.Jun 08 14:36
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1693539Jun 08 14:36
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Moglen: "the death of mr Jobs was a positive event." because "he hated sharing". Didn't invent either. http://www.infoworld.com/d/mobile-technology/the-6-big-ios-flaws-apple-really-needs-fix-194703Jun 08 14:36
schestowitz"The link seems a little unrelated?"Jun 08 14:36
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schestowitzarguably soJun 08 14:36
oiaohmformic_: so becomes a gate way drug because you source was smoking other stuff and you Marijuana been tainted.Jun 08 14:36
oiaohmformic_: Interesting enough in most australian states you can grow one or two plants for personal usage of Marijuana its buying and selling it on street that is illegal.Jun 08 14:37
oiaohmformic_: Yes 1 or 2 plants should be enough for any one person unless they are really over doing it.Jun 08 14:38
DaemonFCand who cares what they do if they're not bothering anyone else with it?Jun 08 14:38
DaemonFCthe nanny stateJun 08 14:38
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/94430169Jun 08 14:39
schestowitztiem for change?Jun 08 14:39
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oiaohmDaemonFC: people with major back problems or being treated for canser and some other nasty disease Marijuana is useful in the food form.Jun 08 14:39
oiaohmDaemonFC: smoking it not exaclty good for the health.Jun 08 14:40
DaemonFCI don't care if they use it, periodJun 08 14:40
formic_i love it when the government tells you to avoid something because of additives they require in the productJun 08 14:40
DaemonFCmedically, recreationally, or otherwiseJun 08 14:40
DaemonFCthey're not bothering me with itJun 08 14:40
formic_'dont smoke, ciggs are radioactive (we require it btw)"Jun 08 14:41
DaemonFCas long as they don't make me use it or operate heavy machinery under the influence, I don't careJun 08 14:41
TechrightsBot-tr@Dr. Roy Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Friday, 08-Jun-12 13:18:10 UTC - Identi.ca: Cablegate: “Google Adopted Shuttleworth’s Ubuntu Software as its In-house Operating System.” http://ur1.ca/528hx #wikileaksJun 08 14:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Insisting on controlling the use of one's gift of money... Today's givers want to control others' lives.” ~Dr. Diane Ravitch on Bill GatesJun 08 14:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] In a digitised world, code is law, law is code, law is control, code is control. http://ur1.ca/9graoJun 08 14:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #PCBSD 20120605 Snapshot Now Available http://ur1.ca/9grax and #apple closes #bsd code to subjugate peopleJun 08 14:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Diebold's operating system, while it may be a #microsoft product, has been and can be altered by Diebold." http://ur1.ca/9grbdJun 08 14:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @schestowitz "People said I should accept the world. Bullshit! I don't accept the world." ~Richard StallmanJun 08 14:41
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oiaohmDaemonFC: and they are not growing enough at home to have like 500 people visiting every day.Jun 08 14:41
DaemonFCif you want to point to something that causes thousands of deaths every year you can point to cigarettes and alcoholJun 08 14:42
DaemonFChell, both of those don't just kill the userJun 08 14:42
DaemonFCthere's drunk driversJun 08 14:42
DaemonFCthere's smokers who fall asleep with a cigarette in their hand and burn the house downJun 08 14:42
DaemonFCthere's secondhand smoke of courseJun 08 14:42
oiaohmReally smoking stuff full stop should be forbin.Jun 08 14:42
DaemonFCmarijuana is at least no worse than what's already legal and taxedJun 08 14:43
oiaohmMostly because the odds of it staying with you is almost zero.Jun 08 14:43
DaemonFCit undermines the public safety argument when there's worse stuff out there that's legalJun 08 14:43
oiaohmIf you want to eat marijuana or consume alcohol at least the problem has a chance of being contained to your own bodyJun 08 14:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Parrot bets on #Android winning in-car device market http://ur1.ca/9grcs let's hope it wins http://ur1.ca/9grct #linuxJun 08 14:44
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MinceRi hope GNU/Linux wins insteadJun 08 14:46
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/94430754Jun 08 14:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Thunderbird 13 has been released! http://ur1.ca/9grdb my favourite applicationJun 08 14:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Nyam Tee w/ @philosema and Roba.Jun 08 14:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 2010: http://ur1.ca/9grg9 http://ur1.ca/9grga #China was right: http://ur1.ca/9grgbJun 08 14:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] Somebody pls kick Portugal out of #euro2012 quickly. we don't need people distracted with one of the famous 3 Fs, Fatima, Family, Football.Jun 08 14:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Reporting to the public about collusion and cybercrime is a crime. Collusion and cybercrime are not crimes. Makes sense. #pr #spinJun 08 15:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] We keep hearing about how RT (Russia Today) is "anti-American" but never about CNN or Fox being "anti-Russian (or other)". #perspective #prJun 08 15:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Fox on #china http://ur1.ca/9grhz remember the #ddos protest against #cnn bias? http://ur1.ca/9gri0Jun 08 15:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Lightspark 0.5.7 Released : Free and Open Source Alternative #Adoeb #Trash Player http://ur1.ca/9gri6Jun 08 15:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #RedHat deal with #Microsoft is a bad idea http://ur1.ca/9gqpc #swpats #uefi #linux #gnuJun 08 15:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Red Hat Drinks the Microsoft Kool-Aid http://ur1.ca/9gqgw #redhatJun 08 15:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Check out @cckorea's art event where composers turned family stories into #CC BY music: http://bit.ly/yxqjrO Music: http://bit.ly/LDRD3dJun 08 15:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "I once preached peaceful coexistence with Windows. You may laugh at my expense -- I deserve it." ~Jean-Louis Gassée http://ur1.ca/gdhkJun 08 15:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Zipkin: Twitter's new open source distributed tracing project http://ur1.ca/9grjg #twitterJun 08 15:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Microsoft off the hook in #flare spin http://ur1.ca/9grjw blaming Windows Update not possible?Jun 08 15:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] RT @schestowitz "Insisting on controlling the use of one's gift of money... Today's givers want to control others' lives.” ~Dr. Diane Ra ...Jun 08 15:21
formic_mincer - create a gnu/linux oemJun 08 15:24
schestowitz"?? http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/quantal/alpha-1/ " https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1693221Jun 08 15:24
schestowitzformic_: in a rigged market?Jun 08 15:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Techrights ... "latest Stuxnet coverage hardly ever mentions Microsoft or Windows. It's criminally poor journalism." http://ur1.ca/9grk5Jun 08 15:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Financial firms that produce nothing take away more power away from the public http://ur1.ca/9grlb #us #lobbyingJun 08 15:28
schestowitzhttp://3.bp.blogspot.com/_-R1JWGD79no/SNc31flMp7I/AAAAAAAAAAw/DHsualoZCXw/s1600-h/capitalismcartoon.jpgJun 08 15:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] You are intolerant for "hating" Microsoft. MS is not intolerant for hating & attacking Linux. Stop "hating". Be professional, like MS.Jun 08 15:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Pity poor Microsoft." http://ur1.ca/9grnbJun 08 15:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Reshared post from Kate Savage http://ur1.ca/9grncJun 08 15:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] A Big Victory For #FairUse Via #SouthPark, What What (In The Butt), Numa Numa, Afro Ninja, Et Al. http://goo.gl/veM4JJun 08 15:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] A good cartoon on poor rich men http://ur1.ca/9grog #cartoon that's very old, very full of foresight.Jun 08 15:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] The IP Lobby's Post-Bill C-11 Playbook: ACTA, SOPA, Warrantless Search and the Criminalization of IP http://goo.gl/RVvUuJun 08 15:48
formic_Ubuntu is doing fineJun 08 15:49
iophkAbout Flame and Stuxnet, the elephant in the room is M$ Windows.  Ubuntu and others could have raised the profile of the issue by making press releases offering solutions.Jun 08 15:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #apple is still inspired by Mr. Jobs http://ur1.ca/9grosJun 08 15:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Intel says grapes are sour http://ur1.ca/9grp6 maybe #x86 / #Atom is just pantsJun 08 15:51
DaemonFChttp://books.google.com/books?id=2kvrxp4TUYsC&lpg=PT182&ots=QWxDBF9IlL&dq=idaho%20model%20penal%20code%20repeal&pg=PT182#v=onepage&q=idaho%20model%20penal%20code%20repeal&f=falseJun 08 15:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Acer reveals sub-$200 7-inch quad-core Iconia Tab A110 http://ur1.ca/9grpe naughty, naughty @Intel :-) This is #Tegra w/ #LinuxJun 08 15:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Liars from #Intel told us #OLPC was pants. Then Intel tried to become OLPC *partner*. What an appalling company http://ur1.ca/4qw0fJun 08 15:53
schestowitziophk: Ubuntu Update is not p2pJun 08 15:54
schestowitzit's coming from a better infrastructureJun 08 15:54
schestowitzMicrosofdt just cannot think things throughJun 08 15:54
schestowitzand it passes the b/w costs to the 'customer' (user who never chose Windows)Jun 08 15:54
schestowitzit just uses OEM machines as nodesJun 08 15:54
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schestowitzand s/w distribution system, for proprietary systems that don't use Delta (diffs) the way Fedora doesJun 08 15:55
schestowitzhi jono :-)Jun 08 15:55
jonohey schestowitz :-)Jun 08 15:55
schestowitzCongrats on the news :-)Jun 08 15:55
DaemonFCyou evil selloutJun 08 15:55
DaemonFC:)Jun 08 15:55
DaemonFCevil evil cheese eating surrender monkey type personJun 08 15:56
*DaemonFC is joking, he doesn't actually careJun 08 15:56
schestowitzDaemonFC: isn't that what Dawn's (neighbour) b/f does?Jun 08 15:56
schestowitzDaemonFC: they have a lot in commonJun 08 15:57
schestowitzthey both want childrenJun 08 15:57
DaemonFCif he does here there's probably nothing he wouldn't doJun 08 15:57
DaemonFC*herJun 08 15:57
jonothanks schestowitz!Jun 08 15:57
jonoDaemonFC, lulzJun 08 15:57
jonoit is a good step forward for Free SoftwareJun 08 15:58
iophkschestowitz: there is apt-p2pJun 08 15:58
*DaemonFC locks jono in a room with Dawn and a couple boxes of FranziaJun 08 15:58
DaemonFCthat should teach him to work for Steve BallmerJun 08 15:58
schestowitzjono: and for bug #1 alsoJun 08 15:58
schestowitziophk: I didn't kniowJun 08 15:58
DaemonFChttp://s-ak.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/terminal01/2010/4/6/14/enhanced-buzz-15051-1270578118-9.jpgJun 08 15:59
DaemonFCtwenty years younger than Dawn, not shriveled, and has titsJun 08 15:59
DaemonFCotherwise, DawnJun 08 16:00
jonoDaemonFC, hahaJun 08 16:00
DaemonFChttp://s-ak.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/terminal01/2010/4/6/15/enhanced-buzz-15050-1270580813-11.jpgJun 08 16:00
iophkschestowitz: I didn't know about apt-p2p until after I finished needing it.  It would be very useful in some settings.  I made do with a cache instead.Jun 08 16:00
DaemonFCDawn's fridgeJun 08 16:00
schestowitzcigsJun 08 16:01
Omegawhat are we talking about - what is a good step forward for free softwareJun 08 16:01
schestowitzand lightersJun 08 16:01
DaemonFChttp://s-ak.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/terminal01/2010/4/6/14/enhanced-buzz-15037-1270579076-5.jpgJun 08 16:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Buying #Android devices without paying the crooks from #Intel is actually very easy because #x86 sucks for Android and is rare. #linuxJun 08 16:01
schestowitzOmega: let's wait for the FSF to contgratulate canonicalJun 08 16:01
DaemonFCthis is what Dawn usually does on a typical morning, afternoon, or nightJun 08 16:01
schestowitz*congratulateJun 08 16:01
Omegaschestowitz: I have no idea what we are talking aboutJun 08 16:01
schestowitzDaemonFC: she looks OK actuallyJun 08 16:02
schestowitzthough I can't see the grillJun 08 16:02
DaemonFCat least between bouts of crying and passing out and sucking cock of toothless unbathed hicksJun 08 16:02
schestowitzOmega: see http://www.markshuttleworth.com/Jun 08 16:02
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MinceRwow... advertising winblows is now a "good step forward for free software"Jun 08 16:04
MinceRwelcome to bizarro worldJun 08 16:04
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sebsebsebMinceR: hmm?Jun 08 16:05
MinceRsebsebseb: re what jono saidJun 08 16:06
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sebsebsebMinceR: where?Jun 08 16:06
sebsebseboh above?Jun 08 16:06
MinceRyesJun 08 16:06
schestowitzjono opens champange, brbJun 08 16:06
schestowitz*gneJun 08 16:06
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sebsebsebMinceR: actsauly what are you reffering toJun 08 16:07
sebsebsebwhat jono said above doesn't mean much to meJun 08 16:07
MinceR165750 < jono> thanks schestowitz!Jun 08 16:07
MinceR165755 < jono> DaemonFC, lulzJun 08 16:07
MinceR165809 < jono> it is a good step forward for Free SoftwareJun 08 16:07
sebsebsebyes read that, but what;'s that  reffering toJun 08 16:08
sebsebseb?Jun 08 16:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] At the Euro 2012 fan park in Prague http://ur1.ca/9grqk... http://b1t.it/bAtQJun 08 16:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] “Great talker, great liar.” ~French ProverbJun 08 16:08
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schestowitzMinceR: it might be good for canoniucalJun 08 16:08
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schestowitzrevenue streamJun 08 16:08
Omegasebsebseb: http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2012/06/canonical-partners-with-microsoft-to-support-ubuntu-on-azure/Jun 08 16:08
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MinceRhe was congratulated on this: http://www.muktware.com/3677/mark-shuttleworth-highly-recommends-windows-azureJun 08 16:08
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schestowitzbut not for the society or FOSS community in generalJun 08 16:08
sebsebsebOmega: oh!Jun 08 16:08
OmegaI was lost too a second agoJun 08 16:08
schestowitzso his response was one of the least tactful possibleJun 08 16:08
sebsebsebyeah thought that was a server thingJun 08 16:09
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formic_10:54 < schestowitz> and it passes the b/w costs to the 'customer' (user who never choseJun 08 16:09
formic_                     Windows)Jun 08 16:10
formic_users choose windows whenever they buy a computer preloaded with itJun 08 16:10
MinceRrepeating bullshitJun 08 16:10
MinceRalso boringJun 08 16:10
formic_its not repeating bullshitJun 08 16:10
formic_its trueJun 08 16:10
formic_build your own, support a local computer store and have them build you oneJun 08 16:11
formic_these are optionsJun 08 16:11
formic_use themJun 08 16:11
MinceRi've explained to you at least twice why that is not always an option in practiceJun 08 16:11
formic_why bitch about microsoft when you willingly buy a windows taxed computerJun 08 16:11
formic_1) you shouldn't be funding microsoft in the first placeJun 08 16:11
MinceRmicrosoft shouldn't be allowed to lock OEMs into such dealsJun 08 16:12
MinceRin the first placeJun 08 16:12
formic_if you give money to microsoft willingly, i have no respect for you and i don't care if they fuck you overJun 08 16:12
Omegabecause microsoft is profiting from an unethical practiceJun 08 16:12
Omegai think that's a good idea to say fuck microsoftJun 08 16:12
MinceRformic_: some of my tax is handed to m$Jun 08 16:12
formic_OEMs can do whatever they wantJun 08 16:12
formic_fuck OEMs, build your ownJun 08 16:12
DaemonFCwell, I looked at this some moreJun 08 16:12
DaemonFCturns out Microsoft will be selling Ubuntu support contractsJun 08 16:12
formic_stop being scared of microsoft, they are dying and are irrelevantJun 08 16:12
DaemonFCso this is not unlike what they did with SUSE thereJun 08 16:13
MinceRtoday's program: formic_ is defending the practice of tyingJun 08 16:13
DaemonFCbut there's no deal involving patentsJun 08 16:13
MinceR(same as yesterday's program)Jun 08 16:13
formic_mincer - im defending the practice of free choiceJun 08 16:13
formic_the free choice to avoid oemsJun 08 16:13
DaemonFCunless it's a secret deal of courseJun 08 16:13
iophkThere is not free choice.  Which store can I walk into and pick up a cheap computer with Linux?Jun 08 16:13
MinceRfree choice to "whack" OEMs over offering other choices besides windowsJun 08 16:13
DaemonFCin which case there may have been a Microsoft-Canonical patent deal years agoJun 08 16:13
Omegathat's not a freedom, you need freedom FROM choice tooJun 08 16:13
Omegayou need freedom to NOT have your computer full of proprietary crapJun 08 16:14
iophkThat's only happened once in the last 20 years, back when (for a brief moment) Asus was allowed to sell linux for a few weeks.Jun 08 16:14
formic_free choice to avoid an oem pc, the windows tax and bad hardware choicesJun 08 16:14
formic_like, why the fuck are you paying windows tax?Jun 08 16:14
formic_stop paying windows tax, or i won't respect your opinion on bundlingJun 08 16:15
MinceRformic_: stop being write-onlyJun 08 16:15
formic_im notJun 08 16:15
formic_stop being illogicalJun 08 16:15
MinceRthen why do you not read what anyone else says?Jun 08 16:15
formic_if microsoft is so evil, why pay them, and use hardware from companies that love them?Jun 08 16:15
formic_i do read what other people sayJun 08 16:15
MinceRif you believe that they offer only winblows because they love them, then you're deludedJun 08 16:16
schestowitz[16:12] <MinceR> microsoft shouldn't be allowed to lock OEMs into such dealsJun 08 16:16
schestowitzUS DOJ agrees with MinceRJun 08 16:16
schestowitzand TR has some docs/exhibits on itJun 08 16:16
formic_show me a contract that disallows OEMs from offering anything elseJun 08 16:16
MinceRformic_: read http://techrights.org/2009/01/28/derail-dell-gnu-linux/Jun 08 16:16
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formic_show me some kind of evidence that you won't be able to buy parts and build your own non-oem computerJun 08 16:17
iophkformic_: NDAJun 08 16:17
schestowitz[16:15] <formic_> if microsoft is so evil, why pay them, and use hardware from companies that love them?Jun 08 16:17
schestowitzPeople don't choose WindowsJun 08 16:17
schestowitzThey choose hardwareJun 08 16:17
schestowitzthose OEMs choose hardware makersJun 08 16:17
schestowitzSome are cheaperJun 08 16:17
schestowitzand those are locked and lumped in such that they all come bundles with something the buyer does not wantJun 08 16:17
MinceRformic_: not all form factors are modularJun 08 16:17
Omegaand you forget that most people don't have the technical knowledge to build their own operating systemJun 08 16:18
formic_those people can choose a local computer store and have people build from scratchJun 08 16:18
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schestowitzSystem76/Zareason gear is expensiveJun 08 16:18
MinceR(this is yet another thing that was explained to you more than once)Jun 08 16:18
formic_what form factor, tablets?Jun 08 16:18
formic_ANDROIDJun 08 16:18
MinceRtablets, tablet PCs, laptops, netbooksJun 08 16:18
sebsebsebreally Canonical are going more and more  like a propritary software company as time goes on, but yet schestowitz spreads Ubuntu news on Identica, Twitter, and DiasporaJun 08 16:18
schestowitzCosts are lowered in quantitiesJun 08 16:18
formic_tablets and tablet pcs, if you buy microsoft instead of android - you're a fucking moronJun 08 16:18
formic_you deserve itJun 08 16:18
MinceRno tablet pc is offered with androidJun 08 16:18
Omegasebsebseb: because there is a difference between a free software project and a companyJun 08 16:18
formic_ignorance is no excuseJun 08 16:19
MinceRneither are laptops and netbooksJun 08 16:19
MinceRif you fail to understand that, you're a fucking moronJun 08 16:19
formic_http://ca.asus.com/Eee/Eee_Pad/Eee_Pad_Transformer_TF101/Jun 08 16:19
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formic_I got a laptop from dell with linuxJun 08 16:19
formic_no windows taxJun 08 16:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] My lesson from #passwordgate is simple. Almost all those hipsters and web 2.0 startups cannot even get the most basic ... http://b1t.it/bAtZJun 08 16:19
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sebsebsebOmega: Canonical make it hard for other distros to get enough developers and usersJun 08 16:19
MinceRthat's an android tabletJun 08 16:20
formic_you can find plenty of netbooks with linuxJun 08 16:20
sebsebsebOmega: since Ubuntu is so hyped upJun 08 16:20
formic_tablets, its androidJun 08 16:20
MinceRnot in hungaryJun 08 16:20
MinceReven eee pcs are only sold with winblowsJun 08 16:20
formic_well hungary sucksJun 08 16:20
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sebsebsebOmega: I mean the distros that don't have companies behind them such as Redhat when it comes to FEdoraJun 08 16:20
MinceRprobably this has been the case elsewhere at some times since m$ influenced asus somehowJun 08 16:20
formic_I can find eee pcs with linuxJun 08 16:20
formic_I can buy every single form factor of PC without windowsJun 08 16:21
iophkWhere are the new EEE's with linux?Jun 08 16:21
sebsebsebOmega: Ubuntu is a commerical productJun 08 16:21
formic_https://www.system76.com/laptops/Jun 08 16:21
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sebsebsebOmega: also it's not really a free software project, if anything it's an open source projectJun 08 16:22
Omegasebsebseb: ubuntu support is offered as a commercial productJun 08 16:22
Omegasebsebseb: what is not free software about the ubuntu project?Jun 08 16:22
Omegacommercial service*Jun 08 16:22
formic_http://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=kde%20tablet%20spark&source=web&cd=1&sqi=2&ved=0CFQQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Farstechnica.com%2Fgadgets%2Fnews%2F2012%2F02%2Fpreorders-begin-for-spark-the-open-kde-tablet.ars&ei=qxjST69ZqOzqAaa8nZsD&usg=AFQjCNGCVonA_P-IiYb2WM1jfj7ciq94VwJun 08 16:22
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sebsebsebfree software is more about the moral advantages that are gained by the code being open I thinkJun 08 16:22
sebsebsebopen source is a development modelJun 08 16:22
sebsebsebboth have source code availalbe to the general publicJun 08 16:22
Omegayes, but what moral advantages does ubuntu not have?Jun 08 16:22
sebsebsebOmega: they sell propritgary software in the software centreJun 08 16:23
sebsebsebthey sell open musicJun 08 16:23
formic_I dunno, ill just stop arguing. THis isn't a rational discussion, its just scaremongering.Jun 08 16:23
sebsebsebthey propritary company like deals at times, like this Micrsooft oneJun 08 16:23
sebsebsebetc etcJun 08 16:23
formic_I'm not afraid of Microsoft. IF you're afraid, they win.Jun 08 16:23
MinceRto formic_, all dissenting opinion is "scaremongering"Jun 08 16:23
sebsebsebOmega: yes it's, becasue they are a for profit companyJun 08 16:23
MinceRformic_ believes the market is freeJun 08 16:23
sebsebsebOmega: ,but to me a true freesoftware project, is one where it's not about making some company money :)Jun 08 16:23
Omegasebsebseb: I disagree with them doing thatJun 08 16:23
DaemonFCthere's been some degree of infiltration and pro-Microsoft lobbying in pretty much every distribution of much importanceJun 08 16:23
DaemonFCincluding DebianJun 08 16:24
Omegasebsebseb: but the project itself is free software, you can take it and remove those thingsJun 08 16:24
DaemonFCthe success and scope varyJun 08 16:24
sebsebsebOmega: to me a true freesoftware/opensource project,  with all the right values and all that, is one that is 100% community, and exsits since donations :)Jun 08 16:24
formic_MinceR: when other options exist, saying 'microsoft is locking out linux' is falseJun 08 16:24
DaemonFCit seems GNOME itself has been completely taken over thoughJun 08 16:24
Omegahahahaha free marketJun 08 16:24
Omegagood one tell me anotherJun 08 16:24
formic_I can get linux all over the placeJun 08 16:24
sebsebsebOmega: there's a lot to remove from Ubuntu when it comes to what I don't like since 10.04Jun 08 16:24
sebsebsebOmega: more and more in each releaseJun 08 16:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 7 More Heroes of #Linux http://ur1.ca/9grtf good list from Carla ("tuxchick")Jun 08 16:24
formic_Omega: its free for the richJun 08 16:24
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sebsebsebOmega: I mean branding and uhJun 08 16:25
sebsebsebUnity is kind of ok, but not really for meJun 08 16:25
sebsebsebUbuntu started going down hil for me when they patched Gnome 2Jun 08 16:25
Omegaanyway I have to go home nowJun 08 16:25
sebsebsebUbuntu whateverJun 08 16:25
sebsebsebit's hypeJun 08 16:25
sebsebsebif people want to use it whatever, but other distros :dJun 08 16:25
sebsebsebOmega: ok byeJun 08 16:25
schestowitzOmega: latersJun 08 16:26
formic_schestowitz - I /ignored on mincer so i dont keep arguingJun 08 16:27
sebsebsebschestowitz: hey you stil going to spread Ubuntu news, now that they got a deal with Microsoft?Jun 08 16:27
MinceRooh, formic_ is such a heroJun 08 16:27
formic_schestowitz - if secure boot prevents me from installing linux i'll donate $200 CND to the FSFJun 08 16:28
iophkIt's too late by then.Jun 08 16:30
DaemonFCIt won't prevent you from installing Linux, it will just strongly encourage you not to with the implication being that you are turning off a "security" featureJun 08 16:30
DaemonFC(11:27:20 AM) MinceR: ooh, formic_ is such a heroJun 08 16:31
DaemonFCor in Hungarian, that would translate to aergbnwerguiohngiehgao8guthwetyweatghjkrguerhbazgbhakrbgreak.ugbnawrogbouieahnguijeagbhnargnhrukjgo;/arehwolJun 08 16:31
DaemonFCor somethingJun 08 16:31
DaemonFC:DJun 08 16:31
MinceRDaemonFC: my hovercraft is full of eelsJun 08 16:32
DaemonFCsweetJun 08 16:32
DaemonFCcan I borrow it?Jun 08 16:32
DaemonFCMinceR: If you teach me Hungarian I can set you up with DawnJun 08 16:33
DaemonFCsorry, I'm just kind of broke right now and that's the only thing I can guarantee youJun 08 16:33
DaemonFC:)Jun 08 16:33
MinceRno thanksJun 08 16:34
DaemonFCnot even if I throw in some Franzia, shaving razors, and a carton of cheap cigarettes?Jun 08 16:34
DaemonFCthey really likes thoseJun 08 16:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Wer Kommentare deaktiviert ist gemein. +Tanja Rathjen :-( Es gibt nämlich sehr wohl Ausnahmen von dem absoluten Anspr... http://b1t.it/bAt6Jun 08 16:34
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DaemonFChttp://images.wikia.com/squidbillies/images/7/7b/Lil.pngJun 08 16:35
TechrightsBot-trNot a web page! Aborting image/png typeJun 08 16:35
DaemonFCwhoever made this cartoon has seen Dawn somewhereJun 08 16:35
DaemonFCbecause that's the Squid version of herJun 08 16:35
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1693507Jun 08 16:36
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: RT @ml2mst  Just like when Novell sold out to Microsoft. I am not ditching #gnu #linux I am ditching Ubuntu in favour Debian now :-pJun 08 16:36
schestowitz"In what way have Ubuntu sold out to M$?"Jun 08 16:37
formic_iophk: its not going to happenJun 08 16:39
DaemonFChttps://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=kdg-KPZEBdkJun 08 16:39
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formic_they have no monopoly anymore, pcs aren't 100% of the computing market anymoreJun 08 16:40
MinceR<formic_> pay no attention to the man behind the curtainJun 08 16:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] El Reg doesn't let #Intel lie its way into the press w/o challenge http://ur1.ca/9grv1 #android #linuxJun 08 16:41
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1689773Jun 08 16:42
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Ubuntu 12.10 Sets To Make #ARM Even Stronger http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ubuntu_1210_arm1&num=1 #linuxJun 08 16:42
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schestowitz"Why would they be humble ? It's a company, subsidized by a rich guy, who wants it to be self sustainable. It's also an entry point for people who are afraid of Linux. The "conscious and responsible Free Software community" shouldn't interfere in this business plan. Simple, isn't it ?"Jun 08 16:42
formic_Canonical is a company subsidized by a rich guy who wants it to be self sustainableJun 08 16:43
DaemonFChttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQH_RKP_T50&feature=relmfuJun 08 16:43
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formic_What happens if Canonical makes oem deals that lock out everyone but Ubuntu and don't offer a secure boot turn off switch?Jun 08 16:46
sebsebsebformic_: hehJun 08 16:47
sebsebsebthat's a pointJun 08 16:47
sebsebsebmaybe Canonical will pay Micrsooft so the secure boot isn't a problemJun 08 16:47
sebsebsebwell isn't a problem,  for well only UbuntuJun 08 16:47
formic_Canonical could make oem deals directly so they could have their own keyJun 08 16:47
sebsebsebnot pay something for all distrosJun 08 16:47
DaemonFCschestowitz: Apparently the landlord did finally tell Dawn to leaveJun 08 16:47
sebsebsebCanonical only really care about them selves when it comes to distrosJun 08 16:48
sebsebseband consuming upstream projects that they haven't madeJun 08 16:48
sebsebseband putting in some of their own stuffJun 08 16:48
formic_Canonical, unlike Redhat, actually does deal with OEMs for desktop usersJun 08 16:48
DaemonFCI might get a 2-3 week reprieve before he finds something worse than Dawn to move in thereJun 08 16:48
DaemonFCRed Hat gave up on desktop linux 10 years agoJun 08 16:48
formic_If redhat sold a desktop distro, im sure they would have went to oems instead of paying microsoft for a signatureJun 08 16:48
iophkWe still haven't seen the Ubuntu machines ship yet or be offered for sale.Jun 08 16:49
sebsebsebuh and now meant to compare other distros against it at times, and so on, because people think it's the only distro worth bothering with, many, well and maybe Mint and Fedora as wellJun 08 16:49
formic_When the infrastructure doesnt exist, its cheaper to pay $99 to get a key signed than it is to spend thousands working with OEMsJun 08 16:49
DaemonFCapparently they are holding out more hope of catching on in ChinaJun 08 16:49
DaemonFCprobably right after Mark gets through implementing censorship software and spyware and backdoors for the government thereJun 08 16:49
iophkThey could market to any country that feared the Stuxnet worm or Flame.Jun 08 16:50
*DaemonFC Flames jonoJun 08 16:50
formic_Flame and stuxnet are hilariousJun 08 16:50
formic_US government made malwareJun 08 16:50
iophkOr any other Windows worms.Jun 08 16:50
formic_Microsoft signed it on purpose, nobody cracked the signatureJun 08 16:50
DaemonFCyou think?Jun 08 16:50
DaemonFC:)Jun 08 16:50
iophkplausible deniabilityJun 08 16:50
formic_they admitted to stuxnetJun 08 16:51
formic_flame is even higher quality than stuxJun 08 16:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] EU Governments Push Global Alliance for Net Censorship - http://bit.ly/Ldibsq someone thinks of the children - when they need to censorJun 08 16:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Satnav Manufacturer Seeks Weak Point In Open Source Competitors By Citing Safety Concerns - http://bit.ly/KgS6h9 running scared much? #osmJun 08 16:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @x11r5: Common sense means you follow folks because you are installing a fully updated apple java still has 14 unpatched vulnerabilitiesJun 08 16:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Tensions Rise Over Another International Agreement – #CETA - http://bit.ly/KTAhTF #canada would be insane to sign this (v @_NetFreedom_)Jun 08 16:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Australian Gov't Chooses 'Consumer Advocate' For Secret Anti-Piracy Meetings: The Chairman Of The Copyright Council - http://bit.ly/LDyzmwJun 08 16:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Open crowdsourcing arrives with PyBossa (The H) http://ur1.ca/9gryoJun 08 16:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] before the 1st match prediction for the #Euros - #Germany will win the tournament, #Osil will be the key !footballJun 08 16:51
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DaemonFCdon't worry, jono is busy writing the Code Aubergine worm for Ubuntu, in Python# for .NET or somethingJun 08 16:51
formic_malware could exist for linux tooJun 08 16:52
DaemonFCsureJun 08 16:52
formic_i dont think it would be hard to make someJun 08 16:52
DaemonFCmake? noJun 08 16:52
formic_you dont need root to steal a users email or ssh keysJun 08 16:52
DaemonFCspread, maybeJun 08 16:52
DaemonFCtrojan horses would be the easiestJun 08 16:52
formic_just write it in pythonJun 08 16:52
formic_java might be easy to spread malware withJun 08 16:53
formic_lots of exploits for javaJun 08 16:53
sebsebsebDaemonFC: Coce Aubergine? heh heh, you mean since that colour scheme I dont like since 10.04Jun 08 16:53
sebsebsebthe branding, with the exception of the logoJun 08 16:54
DaemonFCMicrosoft's malicious software removal tool doesn't workJun 08 16:54
DaemonFCpeople have been running it every month for 10 years now and most of them still have WindowsJun 08 16:54
formic_LOLJun 08 16:54
formic_windows is in the whitelistJun 08 16:54
MinceRlolJun 08 16:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @creativecommons CC Board's @lessig, CC HQ's @cgreen, & @ccpolska's @alek to participate in UNESCO's World #OER Congress: http://bit. ...Jun 08 17:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Urheberrecht: Piraten und Gema sitzen in einem Boot - http://bit.ly/NmHLQr Quatsch #copyrightJun 08 17:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] now I've put that on the public record, cue a #German collapse in the group stage, leaving me with an embarrassing prediction ;) !footballJun 08 17:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Introducing PyBossa – the #opensource micro-tasking platform - http://bit.ly/KlUhK1 not sure what it's for, but sounds cool...Jun 08 17:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] I usually wait until all the teams have played their 1st match before picking a winner, but I do like the look of #Germany !footballJun 08 17:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Facebook Open Sources Library of its Components - http://bit.ly/K5oG4e #facebook knows that #opensource is your friendJun 08 17:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Samsung to acquire Nokia? Why we don’t buy it for a second - http://tnw.co/LdjJmn neither do IJun 08 17:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] despite having #Spain & #Italy in the group, I fancy #Ireland to sneak through to the knockouts, leaving one of those pissed !footballJun 08 17:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Enttäuschte Piraten packen aus - http://bit.ly/LDAKqg please don't mess up your big chance: sort this, Pirates... #deJun 08 17:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Taxpayer-funded research should be available for all. Op Ed in @washingtonpost - http://goo.gl/zia52 #OAMondayJun 08 17:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Outrage as credit agency plans to mine Facebook data - http://bit.ly/LjkuMo just the start... #privacyJun 08 17:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] I learned much from Car Talk but sad to see Click and Clack the Tappet Brothers retiring. Thanks for everything! http://ur1.ca/9gs5e #fbJun 08 17:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] The deadline to enter our T-shirt design contest is tonight! Win a trip to LinuxCon San Diego or Barcelona. http://bit.ly/JQk6XvJun 08 17:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Poland lookin' good so far, but maybe a bigger contrast because #Greece haven't turned up yet !football #EurosJun 08 17:36
DaemonFChttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Security_numberJun 08 17:37
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DaemonFC"Previously unassigned Area Numbers will be introduced for assignment excluding Area Numbers 000, 666 and 900-999."Jun 08 17:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Heute mal zum Piratenstammtisch mit +Georg Zoche um u.a. +Ralph H. zu treffen. Freue mich auf spannende Gespräche und... http://b1t.it/bAwBJun 08 17:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @glynmoody: Outrage as credit agency plans to mine Facebook data - http://bit.ly/LjkuMo just the start... #privacyJun 08 17:38
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DaemonFCI wonder why we haven't heard of religious idiots moaning about their children's SSNs starting with 666Jun 08 17:38
DaemonFCI assume we will if they ever start assigning from that blockJun 08 17:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] World prepares for largest pro-Internet protest in history - http://bit.ly/L43TgX will it be? you can make it so (v @gsDetermination) #ACTAJun 08 17:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] stop #ACTA demos: talking of which, find the nearest one to you here - http://bit.ly/Mevr3rJun 08 17:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] RT @tmarble Want to support !GPL enforcement? Donate to Software Freedom Conservancy w/"Get @bkuhn OUT of his cow-ork facility!" http:// ...Jun 08 17:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Anti #ACTA and #DEAct March - http://on.fb.me/LJib4j #facebook pages for #uk demos #ironyalertJun 08 17:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Famous judge spikes Apple-Google case (GigaOm) http://ur1.ca/9gsbwJun 08 17:44
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DaemonFChttp://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/2010-05-13/news/cracking-life-lock-even-after-a-12-million-penalty-for-deceptive-advertising-the-tempe-company-can-t-be-honest-about-its-identity-theft-protection-service/Jun 08 17:45
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DaemonFCthey STILL have ads on TVJun 08 17:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] A New Declaration of Rights: #OpenContentMining - http://bit.ly/KOTQ0v great piece about key development, & #oa warrior behind itJun 08 17:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] #Posner on #Apple - #Google case http://ur1.ca/9gsd6 !heehawJun 08 17:48
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DaemonFC"Davis' personal ID hasn't been merely abused since he began advertising his SSN — it's been gang-raped."Jun 08 17:48
DaemonFCLOLJun 08 17:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Pirate Bay evades ISP blockade with #IPv6, can do it 18 quintillion more times - http://bit.ly/LjwP3o I just love technologyJun 08 17:51
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DaemonFC"Since then, though, criticism and legal problems have plagued the  company on a number of fronts — fueled partly by LifeLock's incessant,  in-your-face (or ears, since the firm does lots of radio) advertising."Jun 08 17:52
DaemonFC"There were many arguably excellent reasons not to sign up for LifeLock,  critics noted, one of the strongest being that anybody with average  intelligence and a computer can perform its most touted service, setting  fraud alerts on a personal credit file, for free in minutes."Jun 08 17:52
DaemonFCmaybe that's why they advertise on the radioJun 08 17:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Back to using #Cinnamon unless #GNOME people are standing nearby. Dissatisfied w/ all conventional desktop options. Reconsidering #XMonad.Jun 08 17:54
schestowitz[16:47] <DaemonFC> schestowitz: Apparently the landlord did finally tell Dawn to leaveJun 08 17:57
schestowitzso thew child molester leaves too>Jun 08 17:57
DaemonFCif he ever follows up on itJun 08 17:57
schestowitzthey all go down after a penis-induced incident, eventuallyJun 08 17:59
schestowitzshe 'pulled a Weiner', literallyJun 08 17:59
DaemonFCshe pulls a lot of WeinerJun 08 18:00
DaemonFCshe goes down on a lot of WeinersJun 08 18:00
schestowitzDUIawnJun 08 18:00
schestowitzDaemonFC: they would be better off DIY than with his DUIJun 08 18:01
schestowitzsome girls are so unattractive that a hand beats themJun 08 18:01
schestowitzor beats *it*Jun 08 18:01
schestowitz"Jun 08 18:02
schestowitz@Olivier: > Why should they be humble?Jun 08 18:02
schestowitzBecause:Jun 08 18:02
schestowitz   1. Neither Canonical nor Ubuntu would exist without the Free Software which they sell, andJun 08 18:02
schestowitz   2. Neither Canonical nor Ubuntu can continue to exist without the continued support of Free Software and the Free Software community.Jun 08 18:02
schestowitzApart from being fair and decent, being "humble" in this context is also simple business sense.Jun 08 18:02
schestowitz"Jun 08 18:02
schestowitz https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1689773Jun 08 18:02
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Ubuntu 12.10 Sets To Make #ARM Even Stronger http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ubuntu_1210_arm1&num=1 #linuxJun 08 18:02
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schestowitz https://twitter.com/gblock/status/211125369036750848Jun 08 18:02
TechrightsBot-tr@gblock: Yesterday was by far the most amazing and significant launch that I was a part of since joining Microsoft. Now I want to use Azure!Jun 08 18:02
schestowitzexciting to Canonical alsoJun 08 18:02
schestowitzhumble is maybe a less useful term than "sharing the credit". Apple is an example, an extreme example, of companies which 'steal' credit and claim others to have 'stolen' from them.Jun 08 18:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The IP Lobby's Post-Bill C-11 Playbook: #ACTA, #SOPA, Warrantless Search and the Criminalization of IP - http://bit.ly/KDLnhp staggering #caJun 08 18:04
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DrPizzaschestowitz: what's your view, do you think that MS is somehow trying to coopt canonical?Jun 08 18:05
schestowitzI saw your articleJun 08 18:08
sebsebsebschestowitz: Uh where's your blog post about Azure and Canonical? Just went to http://techrights.org looking for oneJun 08 18:08
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schestowitzsebsebseb: not ready yetJun 08 18:08
sebsebsebschestowitz: ohJun 08 18:08
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1693077Jun 08 18:09
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Less freedom is no freedom  http://nicubunu.blogspot.co.uk/2012/06/less-freedom-is-no-freedom.html what #RedHat should have done is file #antitrust complaint vs #MicrosoftJun 08 18:09
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schestowitz"thank you cryptie"Jun 08 18:09
sebsebsebschestowitz: I don't tend to read techrights much, but thought one about Azure and Canonical, from you, could be quite interestingJun 08 18:09
schestowitz"And that is a lie. It was a "big contributor" at a specific moment, in terms of lines-of-code count, because of their module for their stuff. Great contribution, yeah..." https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1693763Jun 08 18:09
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "Pity poor Microsoft." http://www.linuxinsider.com/rsstory/75291.htmlJun 08 18:09
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schestowitzsebsebseb: see my twitter/identica feedJun 08 18:09
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1693547Jun 08 18:10
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Android: http://source.android.com/source/downloading.html hypeOS: http://www.apple.com/ios/ share vs. purchaseJun 08 18:10
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schestowitz"and in the second case, it's not really "purchase", it's "purchase a license to use under a lot of conditions""Jun 08 18:10
schestowitzmust purchase h/w too. See Psystar.Jun 08 18:10
DaemonFCschestowitz: I used OpenDarwin for a whileJun 08 18:12
DaemonFCjust for the hell of itJun 08 18:12
DaemonFCit had a version of GNOMEJun 08 18:12
DaemonFCthere's still this http://www.puredarwin.org/Jun 08 18:13
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DaemonFCI guess there's nothing more wrong about trying to make a distribution of Darwin than trying to make a distribution of FreeBSDJun 08 18:14
DaemonFCApple mostly controls FreeBSD too nowJun 08 18:14
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1693477Jun 08 18:15
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: #capitalism #corporations #earth #india #VandanaShiva #owsJun 08 18:15
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schestowitz|so painfully true..."Jun 08 18:15
schestowitzDaemonFC: opendarwin devolvedJun 08 18:15
schestowitzit became shutJun 08 18:15
schestowitzunable to evolveJun 08 18:15
schestowitzand become increasingly controlled by a relligionJun 08 18:16
schestowitzselective breedingJun 08 18:16
DaemonFCDebian is just too ridiculously slow moving and Ubuntu is incompatible to the point where many Debian packages no longer work....on DebianJun 08 18:16
DaemonFCof course that last bit is Ubuntu's fault, and probably deliberateJun 08 18:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "EU ... promote website #censorship under the pretext of tackling child pornography." http://ur1.ca/9gsgw c/f http://ur1.ca/9gsgxJun 08 18:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] I think my conference presentation voice, at its best, seems to be influenced by #Eben, #Obama and of course Michael #TheodoreJun 08 18:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Typing Stats Analyzes Your Typing Skills While You Use !Firefox http://goo.gl/neKkbJun 08 18:18
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DaemonFCThanks for your message. Jun 08 18:19
DaemonFCTo access and retain the information we provide, your computer will needJun 08 18:19
DaemonFCa Web browser and hardware that meets the following requirements of our Jun 08 18:19
DaemonFCsite:Jun 08 18:19
DaemonFC1. An operating system such as one of the following:Jun 08 18:19
DaemonFC• Windows®Jun 08 18:19
DaemonFC• Macintosh OS XJun 08 18:19
DaemonFC2. Internet access and an Internet browser which supports HTML 4.0, SSL Jun 08 18:19
DaemonFCencryption, and JavaScriptJun 08 18:19
DaemonFCFor Windows® users, we suggest one of the following:Jun 08 18:19
DaemonFC• Microsoft® Internet Explorer® versions 6, 7, 8Jun 08 18:19
DaemonFC• Mozilla® Firefox® versions 3.5 - 3.6Jun 08 18:19
DaemonFCaggghJun 08 18:19
DaemonFCoopsJun 08 18:19
DaemonFCI fumbled the Ctrl+V and got Pidgin instead of PastebinJun 08 18:19
DaemonFCI guess I might as well tl;dr itJun 08 18:20
DaemonFCCredit card company says use Internet Explorer, Firefox 3.x, or Safari on Windows or OS X.Jun 08 18:20
DaemonFCThis ignored my point that their site was downJun 08 18:20
DaemonFCnot all of it, just what I was trying to useJun 08 18:21
DaemonFCit's probably just an easy way to tell people who complain about bad page markup to go awayJun 08 18:22
DaemonFCbut when the actual server itself is....DOWNJun 08 18:22
DaemonFCjesusJun 08 18:22
*DaemonFC wonders why banks typically recommend outdated web browsers with known security problems, or IE at allJun 08 18:25
DaemonFCif Congress is really serious about improving web security, they should outlaw Internet ExplorerJun 08 18:26
ThistleWebmake it easier for crackers to sniff passwords & exploit them, meaning accounts spend money, running up bills the account holder then has to payJun 08 18:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !RedHat deal with Microsoft is a bad idea http://goo.gl/Op6gCJun 08 18:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !Canonical Touts Its New Microsoft Partnership http://ping.fm/9QcuKJun 08 18:26
ThistleWebit's easier than tempting the actual acount holder to spendJun 08 18:26
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1693547Jun 08 18:27
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Android: http://source.android.com/source/downloading.html hypeOS: http://www.apple.com/ios/ share vs. purchaseJun 08 18:27
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schestowitz"True, true. And I would't be surprised if the "purchase" of the hardware also had some sort of license that made the purchased product "not yours"."Jun 08 18:27
schestowitzOf course. It's Steve's He built it from scratch.Jun 08 18:27
ThistleWebeither way the bill is run upJun 08 18:27
schestowitzHe assembled it himself and innovated everything.Jun 08 18:27
sebsebsebhi ThistleWebJun 08 18:31
ThistleWebo/Jun 08 18:31
sebsebsebI haven't been on Cirvins just yet, but oh wellJun 08 18:31
sebsebsebwasn't quite set up anywayJun 08 18:32
sebsebsebThistleWeb: which reminds me with mumbleJun 08 18:32
sebsebsebis it just get the program set it up in a distro and use?Jun 08 18:32
sebsebsebwell and some sort of account for it?Jun 08 18:32
formic_13:14 < DaemonFC> Apple mostly controls FreeBSD too nowJun 08 18:32
formic_LOLJun 08 18:32
ThistleWebinstall mumble, start it and run through the setupJun 08 18:32
sebsebsebyep ok :)Jun 08 18:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: Oui, Philippe, http://t.co/4ZSG8HjR, nous avons besoin d’un réseau de très haut dé http://p.ost.im/p/e7hBkkJun 08 18:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: Time 2 register http://t.co/MM6jQggk if u want to join me, Hugh Grant, G. Robertson + mo http://p.ost.im/p/eWWGqBJun 08 18:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] #Apple's Case Against #Motorola/ !Google Dismissed "With Prejudice" http://ping.fm/CcZONJun 08 18:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Prominent #Linux dev quits #oracle http://ur1.ca/9gsjhJun 08 18:33
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DaemonFChttp://blogs.cfr.org/zenko/2012/02/24/america-is-a-safe-place/Jun 08 18:33
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DaemonFCmore Americans were crushed to death by household furniture last year than by terroristsJun 08 18:33
ThistleWebI have no idea Magea's release schedule, I'm not gonna try to keep on it, to get you onJun 08 18:33
sebsebsebhopefuly my headset works ok in Mageai 2 final, dont' know yet,  also there's going to be a Mandriva 2012 some time this yearJun 08 18:33
sebsebsebThistleWeb: it's been outJun 08 18:33
DaemonFC*than killed by terroristsJun 08 18:33
sebsebsebsinceJun 08 18:33
sebsebsebThistleWeb: been out for quite a while nowJun 08 18:34
sebsebseb22nd MayJun 08 18:34
ThistleWebk, my point is that you should be trying to keep on top of itJun 08 18:34
sebsebsebI am on top of itJun 08 18:34
ThistleWebrather than us tracking itJun 08 18:34
sebsebsebwhat?Jun 08 18:34
sebsebsebI am on teams, I go to council meetingsJun 08 18:34
sebsebsebetcJun 08 18:34
sebsebsebI know what's going on :)Jun 08 18:34
ThistleWebso do ya wanna record tonight?Jun 08 18:35
sebsebsebI just haven't personally installed Mageia 2 final just yet, since been using my computersJun 08 18:35
DaemonFCCan't sleep, bed will crush meJun 08 18:35
DaemonFCneed big government to declare war on bedsJun 08 18:35
DaemonFCand couchesJun 08 18:35
DaemonFCand TV setsJun 08 18:35
sebsebsebat the moment I got WIndows XP,  Mandriva 2010.2,  and Mageia 1 installed on here, but well Windows could do with upgrading to SP3. headset will work in that.  Mandriva 2010.2 issues with the headset when it comes to microphone same thing for Mageia 1,  Mageia 2 final not sure yet, not got it on here just yetJun 08 18:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Is Microsoft Allowing !Ubuntu Linux on Azure without a Patent Deal - InternetNews. http://goo.gl/Bgo2wJun 08 18:36
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sebsebsebThistleWeb: noet set up to record at the moment, unless I use Windows hmmJun 08 18:36
DaemonFCsebsebseb: You could slipstream SP3 into the ISOJun 08 18:36
sebsebsebThistleWeb: however you say tonight? what time would that be?Jun 08 18:37
sebsebsebif were going toJun 08 18:37
ThistleWebwhat time suits you? it'd be you, me and maybe ericJun 08 18:37
ThistleWebkevie is still out of the picture right nowJun 08 18:37
sebsebsebyeah I saw something on Identica about him going away or somethingJun 08 18:38
ThistleWebyeah a courseJun 08 18:38
sebsebsebsome woman was going to take over or something?Jun 08 18:38
ThistleWebwe hopefully have an interview lined up for monday,we could do your interview and make that two halfs of the same epJun 08 18:38
sebsebsebThistleWeb: I wanted to go on Tuxjam as well anyway to talk a bit about it, so if I do that with Kevie later on as well, that makes senseJun 08 18:39
sebsebsebwhat kind of interview?Jun 08 18:39
sebsebsebI need to get my computer set up as I was saying, so can use headset agan and such :d,  then I can go on sure :)Jun 08 18:40
sebsebsebso today noJun 08 18:40
ThistleWebk, let me know if or when you get sortedJun 08 18:40
sebsebsebThistleWeb: you must record on Monday or?Jun 08 18:41
sebsebsebI mean a full epsiode?Jun 08 18:41
ThistleWebmonday is the best day for me and kevieJun 08 18:41
sebsebsebyeah, but he isn't here at the moment you saidJun 08 18:41
ThistleWebhe'll be fine on mondayJun 08 18:42
sebsebsebok so can I come on, onto a proper Monday epsiode for example?Jun 08 18:42
sebsebsebsort the computer out this weekend, come on on the Monday?Jun 08 18:42
ThistleWebhe was at a course tuesday to thursday this week, back todayJun 08 18:42
sebsebsebwell you said there was another interview?Jun 08 18:42
ThistleWeba full ep is fine, but not monday coming, the following week is fine thoughJun 08 18:43
sebsebsebThistleWeb: Monday 18th June?Jun 08 18:43
ThistleWebwe should have ikey from solusOS on mondayJun 08 18:43
ThistleWebyes, dave and caroline are due on that show too on the 18thJun 08 18:44
sebsebseboh?Jun 08 18:44
sebsebsebI seen some Caroline on IdenticaJun 08 18:44
sebsebseb,but who's dave?Jun 08 18:44
ThistleWebcaroline being "that woman" you mentioned earlierJun 08 18:44
ThistleWebdave and caroline are the bugcast hostsJun 08 18:44
sebsebseboh I see awesomeJun 08 18:44
ThistleWebif ya want a music stream show, they're on tonightJun 08 18:44
sebsebsebthat sounds like a lot of people if I were to go on that oneJun 08 18:45
sebsebsebas wellJun 08 18:45
sebsebsebthere's no rush as suchJun 08 18:45
ThistleWebkeep an eye on the channel #thebugcastJun 08 18:45
sebsebsebThistleWeb: anyway three of the Mageia teams are about to merge into one, that could be something worth mentioning briefly as well for exampleJun 08 18:46
ThistleWebnot sure dave will be on the 18th, but caroline will be, to have a dry run on the show before she stands in for a month with just meJun 08 18:46
sebsebsebyeah I saw something about Kevie going awayJun 08 18:46
sebsebseband she would take over, something on IdenticaJun 08 18:46
ThistleWebyesJun 08 18:47
sebsebsebwhat distros does she use?Jun 08 18:47
ThistleWebthe 18th is a sorta entry to the showJun 08 18:47
ThistleWebnot sureJun 08 18:47
ThistleWebin fact it might be better if you were on the following weekJun 08 18:47
ThistleWebinstead of the 8thJun 08 18:48
sebsebsebwe could al go on then I guess, have something about  Mageia, something about Identica, and so on I guess?Jun 08 18:48
ThistleWeb18th*Jun 08 18:48
sebsebsebyep I was thinking this to, to many people ins't that goodJun 08 18:48
sebsebsebalso can probably arrange to go on Tuxjam with Kevei about it, before he goes away anyway, then do cirvins afterJun 08 18:48
sebsebsebor I don't knowJun 08 18:49
sebsebsebThistleWeb: ok so a full epsidoe, about Mageia and so on, on the 25th June, with you and Caryolin?Jun 08 18:49
sebsebsebspelt her name wrong I Think thereJun 08 18:49
ThistleWebin fact, yeah it'll need to be the 25th, or wait until kevie gets back in august, and it'll be with me and kevie, not carolineJun 08 18:50
sebsebsebI like the idea of going on, with you and Caroline on the 25th JuneJun 08 18:50
sebsebseband also some time with Kevie on Tuxjam  :)Jun 08 18:50
ThistleWebcaroline isn't a techy geekJun 08 18:51
sebsebseband August uhmm I am on holiday for quite a bit of itJun 08 18:51
ThistleWebso i don't wanna bore her with a techie geeky interview on a show she's onJun 08 18:51
sebsebsebThistleWeb: or the alternative is to record something this weekend, and add it into an episode like you were saying I Think?Jun 08 18:51
ThistleWebwe're shifting more on the publishing, music, media type of stories in julyJun 08 18:52
sebsebseboh right ok cool :)Jun 08 18:52
ThistleWebyes, we can do a show as a standalone interview with meJun 08 18:52
ThistleWebno reason we can't do news stuff in the same epJun 08 18:52
sebsebsebyou mean a full epsiode, just the two of us?Jun 08 18:53
ThistleWebkevie is really only available on monday nightsJun 08 18:53
ThistleWebpossibly eric tooJun 08 18:53
sebsebseband news at the moment, would be Azure and Canonical for examleJun 08 18:53
ThistleWebbut yeah a full epJun 08 18:53
sebsebsebThistleWeb: Monday is the council meeting for Mageia as well really so hmmJun 08 18:53
sebsebsebso in a way for me it's ok to be on a podcast, but then also I am meant to have an eye on IRC and maybe type a bit at the momentJun 08 18:54
sebsebsebThistleWeb: sounds like, it's probably best to do an episode without Kevie for this, since what you were saying, and then I can go on Tuxjam with him as well :)Jun 08 18:55
sebsebsebI guess we will record something next week, or maybe this weekend? sounds good?Jun 08 18:56
ThistleWebmonday is out, ikey is on that oneJun 08 18:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] New York Times helps cover up for white-collar crime in Wall Street et al. http://ur1.ca/9gsly #media #spin #nyc #fraudJun 08 18:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] Four ways that #Linux is being used in large-scale scientific research. bit.ly/Mij8jdJun 08 18:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 8/6/2012: Gentoo Has New Release Candidate, Patrick Volkerding Speaks http://ur1.ca/9gsn8 #techrightsJun 08 18:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Hundreds of anti-#ACTA demonstrations planned across Europe and in the US, Japan, & Canada (maps included) https://eff.org/r.2acHJun 08 18:56
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sebsebsebyep Monday is outJun 08 18:56
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sebsebseb,but maybe another day that week, we record an epsiode?Jun 08 18:56
ThistleWebwell, I haven't had an email reply yet but it's pencilled in for himJun 08 18:56
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ThistleWebkJun 08 18:57
sebsebsebThistleWeb: heh so was mine, but then eric went on that day instead, and we didn't have contact, well I think I did think about contacting you on Idnetica or something, but the computer whatever anywayJun 08 18:57
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAwBvBxI0UAJun 08 18:57
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schestowitztesting my algo on itJun 08 18:57
ThistleWebmagea has a flued release, I was relying on you telling us, so we could try to time itJun 08 18:58
sebsebsebThistleWeb: so recording next week is a probably, but not Monday?  that's what I meanJun 08 18:58
ThistleWebfineJun 08 18:58
sebsebsebyeah, but now that it's been out a bitJun 08 18:58
sebsebsebthere's also a bit more to talk about really :dJun 08 18:58
sebsebsebto some extentJun 08 18:58
sebsebsebalso for some reason we didn't contact each other on the pencilled in day, but nevermind I guessJun 08 18:59
sebsebsebI expect that eric episode is quite good, that happended instead, not heard it just yetJun 08 19:00
ThistleWebwe didn't record this week so farJun 08 19:00
ThistleWebschestowitz: you busy tonight?Jun 08 19:00
sebsebsebThistleWeb: oh your thinking of having schestowitz on again?Jun 08 19:01
schestowitzavailable :-)Jun 08 19:02
schestowitzbut eager to do techbytesJun 08 19:02
schestowitztim is awayJun 08 19:02
sebsebsebschestowitz: we might have to do a Mageia techbytes episode again without him heh hehJun 08 19:03
sebsebseband this time much more so Mageia, than that other oneJun 08 19:03
sebsebsebhowever really want to do one of those with TIm :)Jun 08 19:03
ThistleWebschestowitz: want a co-host for the evening to get another techbytes out?Jun 08 19:04
ThistleWebyou have switched to mumble right?Jun 08 19:04
schestowitznot yetJun 08 19:05
schestowitzand tim is always on the showJun 08 19:05
sebsebsebschestowitz: well there was that one exception to that :dJun 08 19:05
sebsebsebunless we include the intro :dJun 08 19:05
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sebsebsebThistleWeb: What distro/s does Eric use?Jun 08 19:06
ThistleWebright now it's solusJun 08 19:06
sebsebseboh that's the uhmmJun 08 19:07
sebsebsebI Think that's what I was looking at on distrowatch recnetlyJun 08 19:07
sebsebsebDebian based with Gnome 2?Jun 08 19:07
sebsebseband a custom Gnome  2 set upJun 08 19:07
ThistleWebyesJun 08 19:08
sebsebsebyep the one I was looking at quite recnetly on thereJun 08 19:08
sebsebsebhttp://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=solusosJun 08 19:08
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sebsebsebdoes seem interesting from thatJun 08 19:08
sebsebsebThistleWeb: so when I am set up ready to record, I guess I should Identica you about that, unless your on IRCJun 08 19:10
sebsebsebor uhmmw hat's your mumble name or whatever?Jun 08 19:11
sebsebsebwhat'sJun 08 19:11
ThistleWeban @ reply on identica would be easierJun 08 19:11
ThistleWebyou create a nick on the murmur server you useJun 08 19:11
ThistleWebI have ThistleWeb registered on the one we useJun 08 19:11
sebsebsebwhich is?Jun 08 19:12
sebsebsebpm meJun 08 19:12
ThistleWebit's on the unseenstudio.co.uk wikiJun 08 19:12
sebsebsebah to lateJun 08 19:12
sebsebsebsome troll might sign up as meJun 08 19:12
sebsebseblike they did with IdenticaJun 08 19:12
ThistleWebit's a small community serverJun 08 19:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] Sexual selection in humans http://ur1.ca/9gsqvJun 08 19:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] I haven't gotten my goat yet...Jun 08 19:13
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schestowitzsebsebseb: he knew about it at the timeJun 08 19:13
sebsebsebschestowitz: he read the log laterJun 08 19:14
sebsebsebthat went online I guessJun 08 19:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] European telcoms defend leaked proposal for U.N. Internet tax - http://cnet.co/LAQ0X6 "idea borrowed from international phone calls"Jun 08 19:14
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ThistleWebif you're only on for an ep or two, registering a nick isn't importantJun 08 19:14
sebsebsebwell sure, but may be on other times as well in the future here and there, I guessJun 08 19:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Stunning Star Trail Photographs from International Space Station - http://bit.ly/KTRJHF nice (v @boingboing)Jun 08 19:18
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schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/BenderPL/statuses/211150183612944384Jun 08 19:19
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schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/fcassia/statuses/211146177054392320Jun 08 19:19
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schestowitz"funny, those who say "prominent" until yesterday did not give credit to orcl for funding Btrfs development."Jun 08 19:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] How the Tech Industry’s Anti-#SOPA Tactics Changed Politics - http://rww.to/Nn0Wtu amusing to see the politicians still struggling with thisJun 08 19:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fedora/@fedora] RT @boubakr92: Search for any @fedora Packages : http://ur1.ca/9gsuzJun 08 19:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Microsoft lässt heise Artikel aus google entfernen - http://bit.ly/JSjhsL #microsoft abusing #dmca takedowns to protect #win8?Jun 08 19:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Famous judge spikes Apple-Google case, calls patent system “dysfunctional” - http://bit.ly/Nn1xv9 we're getting there... #patentsJun 08 19:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Independent software developers go full time with #opensource - http://bit.ly/MiISvH interesting trendJun 08 19:29
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DaemonFChttps://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/pangolins-adorable-endangered-animals-saved-poachers-thailand-article-1.1091890Jun 08 19:29
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DaemonFCschestowitz: I don't believe I will use btrfs unless it improves a lotJun 08 19:30
DaemonFCperformance is still not where it should be and they're still fixing all kinds of bugsJun 08 19:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] India Court Summons Top Internet Executives - http://on.wsj.com/Mi17Ek vindictive or just clueless? #indiaJun 08 19:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Security updates for Friday http://ur1.ca/9gswrJun 08 19:33
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formic_thistleweb - the rss feed, doesn't seem to provide episodesJun 08 19:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Asian Governments Plan To Better Use #TRIPS Flexibilities For Health - http://bit.ly/K5YJS6 important trendJun 08 19:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Commerce Dept: Steve Jobs Had Patents, Steve Jobs Made Cool Things; Thus Patents Are Great - http://bit.ly/MoEEWX makes you weepJun 08 19:49
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ThistleWebformic_: auto downloading?Jun 08 19:50
formic_I believe soJun 08 19:51
formic_my audio player doesn't understand the feedJun 08 19:51
ThistleWebI found that too in newsbeuter, I dont know whats causing itJun 08 19:52
ThistleWebit does work fine in gpodderJun 08 19:52
formic_lol, what language is being translated to english?Jun 08 19:54
ThistleWebit's scottishJun 08 19:55
ThistleWebsortaJun 08 19:55
ThistleWebit's more english with a scottish accentJun 08 19:56
formic_I just started listening to 17Jun 08 19:56
formic_badass accentJun 08 19:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: According to a quick poll during my #hcktransilien talk apparently almost everyone used public transpor http://ur1. ...Jun 08 19:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @dedingen Weigeren forfaitair te betalen: playlist duidelijk doorgeven #gratistipJun 08 19:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @dedingen Waarom heb je je dan aangesloten by #sabam. Dommeke ;)Jun 08 19:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @FredoFredonis E-mails, zo 2002 van jou.Jun 08 19:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: Arrived at #hcktransilienJun 08 19:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @KatBorlongan: @pietercolpaert Welcome to @lacantine ! New #opendata commuter-friends will be here i http://ur1. ...Jun 08 19:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: Great meeting @martoche! It's great to hear experiences from other people facing similar things in anot http://ur1. ...Jun 08 19:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @dedingen feitJun 08 19:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Attacking Your Religion : An Open Letter - http://bit.ly/LB0N3F well-argued, well-written piece #discourseJun 08 20:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Openaccess to research is inevitable, says Nature editor-in-chief - http://bit.ly/KTWvF6 we are winning ( v @zapata_f @phylogenomics)Jun 08 20:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Reshared post from glyn moody http://ur1.ca/9gt2hJun 08 20:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] US Navy buys #Linux to guide drone fleet - http://bit.ly/KPlB9b "a $27,883,883 contract from military contractor Raytheon"; yikesJun 08 20:09
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iophkhttp://communities-dominate.blogs.com/brands/2012/06/paging-stats-police-no-idc-not-even-close-no-windows-phone-will-not-pass-iphone-by-2016.htmlJun 08 20:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Communities Dominate Brands: Paging Stats Police - no, IDC, not even close! No! Windows Phone will not pass iPhone by 2016 .::. Size~: 117.39 KBJun 08 20:15
iophk"Microsoft the parasite sucking Nokia dry"  http://communities-dominate.blogs.com/brands/2012/06/smartphone-markets-shares-in-2012-some-relevant-illustrations-to-understand-the-bloodbath.htmlJun 08 20:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Communities Dominate Brands: Smartphone Markets Shares in 2012, some relevant illustrations to understand the Bloodbath .::. Size~: 112.24 KBJun 08 20:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Apple Granted Broad Patent On Wedge-Shaped Laptops - http://bit.ly/L4P7X7 so that's no rounded corners, no wedges...yeah, rightJun 08 20:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] So. Installed the whole !debian / !aptosid system anew on my shiny new SSD, and testing, testing, testing! But damn is that thing fast.Jun 08 20:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Oh, and thank the !FSM for backups I made, testing and reverting to some settings that used to work is a snap.Jun 08 20:19
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MinceRwhy not just patent geometry as such?Jun 08 20:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Everyone Out of the Internet! http://goo.gl/24yOJJun 08 20:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Users Give #Facebook's #Privacy Changes a Thumbs Down http://goo.gl/eaowmJun 08 20:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Two Men Sue Chicago Police; Claim They Were Abused And Falsely Charged For Filming Officers http://goo.gl/023R4Jun 08 20:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] LOLWUT? Suddenly my brag layout fails miserably in #IceWeasel / !Firefox 13.0: http://rys.io/en - I wonder what has changed -_-'Jun 08 20:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Everyone Out of the Internet! .::. Size~: 32.94 KBJun 08 20:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Users Give Facebook's Privacy Changes a Thumbs Down | PCWorld Business Center .::. Size~: 74.18 KBJun 08 20:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @x11r5: @thistleweb The search function helped me find those spammers. Just search for their platformJun 08 20:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] "he shall mark him as his equal" #HarryPotter #Voldemort #Samsung #AppleJun 08 20:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] 7Gbps wireless transfers and streaming, no router required - http://bit.ly/L9nYAL great; but won't it burn holes in people as it does so...?Jun 08 20:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] "The Pirate Bay evades ISP blockade with IPv6, can do it 18 quintillion more times http://identi.ca/url/70348249 !rbnewsJun 08 20:39
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MinceRhttp://pics.nase-bohren.de/so-innovative.jpgJun 08 20:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: so-innovative.jpg - pics.nase-bohren.de 0.06 - Wir bohren einfach weiter .::. Size~: 237 KBJun 08 20:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Got my SSD, installed #Aptosid from scratch, set-up a nice, encrypted /home partition, copied my old /home data. Works http://ur1.ca/9gt83Jun 08 20:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Where did my stacking, tabbing, etc. group container plasmoids go? !kde #plasma 4.7.x on !debian wheezy/sid / !aptosidJun 08 20:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] This just made my day - you can buy (wait for it!) the flame from the #London2012 olympic torch. bit.ly/MSBXPO !lolJun 08 20:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] And now, General Fuzz of !Jamendo, IOW - some great !cc licensed music.Jun 08 21:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Plea made for kitten and cat food by Scottish #SPCA at Drumoak http://goo.gl/fH6oRJun 08 21:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #BBC's diamond jubilee coverage draws 4,500 complaints http://goo.gl/0ce2dJun 08 21:03
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BBC News - Plea made for kitten and cat food by Scottish SPCA at Drumoak .::. Size~: 73.78 KBJun 08 21:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] WTF! !kde kmail 1.13.x, I can see my mail (including new, just fetched), but I have overlay on the whole window telling me about Akonadi.Jun 08 21:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Now #Apple chooses to bully its customers! Kudos, Apple! I'm so glad I flipped you the bird years ago. Long Live #FLOSS! http://ur1.ca/9gtawJun 08 21:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] I don't even. ♻ @_tomash: Watch the lyrics, be blown away. Offensive to so many http://t.co/rWbSDFNuJun 08 21:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Apple tells its customers to shut up, or else - Blogger threatened with legal action | TechEye .::. Size~: 23.93 KBJun 08 21:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is thistleweb from identi.ca with 53 dents!Jun 08 21:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] So-called ITU 'Internet takeover' attempt leaked to @IGPAlert in a "mysterious email" https://eff.org/r.4acJJun 08 22:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] city dashboard: #london - http://bit.ly/MSQYRv live info; hey, this is wonderful (v @vickeegan ‏@digitalurban)Jun 08 22:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Election Results for Fedora Board, FAmSCo, and FESCo seats http://ur1.ca/9gtn9Jun 08 22:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Turn carefully [IMG] http://ur1.ca/9gtndJun 08 22:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Election Results for Fedora Board, FAmSCo, and FESCo seats [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 7.98 KBJun 08 22:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] 3.3" HDMI-dongle Android Pocket TV funded within 1 week on Kickstarter - http://bit.ly/MjmHp9 more #opensource kickstarter magicJun 08 22:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #LinkedIn Password Hack Draws Security Concerns and User Anger http://ur1.ca/9gto8 minutes ago they mass-mailed all users as damage controlJun 08 22:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 3.3″ HDMI-dongle Android Pocket TV funded within 1 week on Kickstarter | Ars Technica .::. Size~: 34.17 KBJun 08 22:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] New #IBM advertisement for #Linux now in #Thailand http://ur1.ca/9gtojJun 08 22:24
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schestowitz"Indeed, the whole subscription thing is just plain wrong, not even Micro$oft stoop to that AFAIK." https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1660810Jun 08 22:27
TechrightsBot-tr@linux@joindiaspora.com reshared: Bryan Lunduke [will convert everything](http://lunduke.com/?p=3372) he has ever made to the #open source #GPL licence if potential donors hit USD 4000. The software would include #Linux Tycoon and the cross-platform visual app builder Illumination Software Creator.Jun 08 22:27
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1680096Jun 08 22:28
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: ![pic](http://cdn.front.moveon.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/corporatepeople500.jpg) #stupid #inequality #americaJun 08 22:28
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schestowitz"WHICH IS CAUSED BY HUMAN NATURE."Jun 08 22:28
schestowitzThank you very much for this constructive and positive article. Be sure I'll install Windows tomorrow on web servers, checkpoint firewall and netapp arrays :)Jun 08 22:28
schestowitzFlame wars and troll never deserved free software adoption...Jun 08 22:28
schestowitz"Jun 08 22:28
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1676688Jun 08 22:28
TechrightsBot-tr@linux@joindiaspora.com: Reasons Why You Should Not Use #FreeBSD http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTExMjE with all due respect to the #bsd community. #unixJun 08 22:28
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1694803Jun 08 22:57
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #LinkedIn Password Hack Draws Security Concerns and User Anger http://www.mobilemarketingwatch.com/linkedin-password-hack-draws-security-concerns-and-user-anger-23469/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+MobileMarketingWatch+%28Mobile+Marketing+Watch%29 minutes ago they mass-mailed all users as damage controlJun 08 22:57
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schestowitz"lool oooo shit..."Jun 08 22:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "money seems to have a similar effect on morality has Mad Cow Disease has on brain integrity" ~qU1j0t3 in #techrights (context: Canonical)Jun 08 23:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Ubuntu Server is more or less a rebadged Debian. Now you can get your #Debian subscription from Microsoft (as #Xandros or Ubuntu@Azure)Jun 08 23:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Reshared post from Alexander Becker http://ur1.ca/9gu1bJun 08 23:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Jan Wildeboer - Google+ - Bad taste from #microsoft  from their Azure presentation at… .::. Size~: 142.14 KBJun 08 23:14
Omega<schestowitz> Of course. It's Steve's He built it from scratch.Jun 08 23:16
OmegaYou know, that is the part I hate the most of capitalism, the boss saying "this is mine, not yours, even though you built it".Jun 08 23:16
MinceRlolJun 08 23:16
OmegaJust stealing your laborJun 08 23:16
OmegaAnd gives you a fraction of it backJun 08 23:16
MinceRif thatJun 08 23:17
Omegajust enough to keep you coming backJun 08 23:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[faither/@faither] Thanks for the tip, worked like a charm ^^Jun 08 23:44
formic_Omega: 25% of my labour is stolen every pay cheque by the gov'tJun 08 23:48
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MinceRmore than half of mine isJun 08 23:51
MinceRand that's before the VAT i pay when i spend the moneyJun 08 23:52
MinceRguess what i get in exchange for itJun 08 23:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Alan Cox celebrates the queen http://ur1.ca/9gubrJun 08 23:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Is !clementine player still alive? are there any devs around? I love it and I would love to have more of it ;)Jun 08 23:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Alan Cox celebrates the queen [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 7.79 KBJun 08 23:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] #ThePirateBay features !ACTA protest info on the main page: http://thepiratebay.se/ :) !copyfraudJun 08 23:58
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Download music, movies, games, software! The Pirate Bay - The galaxy's most resilient BitTorrent site .::. Size~: 13.34 KBJun 08 23:58
formic_Nothing Jun 08 23:58
MinceRbingoJun 08 23:59

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