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DaemonFChttps://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/07/us/a-leaders-renunciation-of-ex-gay-tenets-causes-a-schism.html?_r=1&pagewanted=allJul 08 00:07
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DaemonFCthe Ex-Gay fraud officially implodesJul 08 00:07
DaemonFCwell, it should have been doubtful to any intelligent/sane person all along that tying someone up, drugging them, and shocking them while forcing them to masturbate to gay porn was not only unethical, but not likely to workJul 08 00:16
DaemonFCas in any form of torture, eventually the victim will say or do anything to make it stopJul 08 00:16
DaemonFCerrr, should have been doubtful it was likely to work is what I meant to sayJul 08 00:17
DaemonFCyou know, just say what I want you to say and the beating stopJul 08 00:17
DaemonFCPicard says....Jul 08 00:17
DaemonFCTHERE ARE FOUR LIGHTS!Jul 08 00:17
DaemonFCso they keep torturing him, and telling him that if he says there are five lights, they'll stopJul 08 00:18
DaemonFCbut Picard keeps insisting that there are four lights (there were four lights)Jul 08 00:18
DaemonFChow many lights there were didn't really matter, the point was to break him and get him to agree with the lie to make it stopJul 08 00:19
DaemonFCof course these ex-gay people are even worseJul 08 00:19
DaemonFCoften, there's not only the torture, but a strong desire in the victim to make their family stop hating themJul 08 00:20
DaemonFCso they're all set up to leave the place and start living this lie and then a lot of them end up committing suicide laterJul 08 00:20
DaemonFCif "Jesus" were really involved, then the torture wouldn't be necessary, and suicidal depression / nervous breakdowns would not happen laterJul 08 00:21
DaemonFCat least, that isn't the Jesus they describe ;)Jul 08 00:21
msb__What was the TV episode about the Ex-Gay organization that gay people went to to find dates?Jul 08 00:22
msb__Was it on Will and Grace?Jul 08 00:22
DaemonFCI don't know, but that probably didn't accurately describe the level of barbaric horror that these ex-gay organizations are really all aboutJul 08 00:23
msb__No, this was very funny.Jul 08 00:23
DaemonFCjust read some of the stories about people who survived those "ex-gay" campsJul 08 00:23
DaemonFCsome parents even send their children to themJul 08 00:23
DaemonFCa few of them have even been shut down by state child protective services authorities because of what they do thereJul 08 00:24
msb__Once the parents believe in "satan", they can justify anything.Jul 08 00:24
DaemonFCwell, they like to promote myths to discredit gay peopleJul 08 00:25
DaemonFCand these myths are picked up on by a lot of peopleJul 08 00:25
DaemonFCone of the things my mom asked was if I had been molested by anyone as a childJul 08 00:26
msb__The Microsoft astroturfers in COLA are always calling Linux users gay.Jul 08 00:26
DaemonFCI told her no, and that I was offended that she would think that I'd hold something like that backJul 08 00:26
DaemonFC:PJul 08 00:26
DaemonFCwell, "gay" has become an acceptable epithet to some peopleJul 08 00:27
DaemonFCI heard a black person say "That's so gay!" once, so I stopped and said "Don't you mean that's so nigger?"Jul 08 00:27
DaemonFChe stopped and looked at me, and his jaw dropped openJul 08 00:27
DaemonFCbefore he could say anything I said "Yeah, you heard me!"Jul 08 00:28
DaemonFC"Watch your fucking mouth!"Jul 08 00:28
DaemonFCI don't think that I should just have to tolerate thatJul 08 00:28
DaemonFCit infuriates me whenever I hear someone say thatJul 08 00:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] kmail can do that. at least the versions i have used can.Jul 08 00:29
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DaemonFCmsb__: I never expected the ex gay thing to fall apart like it hasJul 08 00:32
DaemonFCnormally when people set out to paint someone as an enemy, they don't change their mindsJul 08 00:32
DaemonFCwhether it's justifiable or notJul 08 00:32
msb__DaemonFC: Some people are waking up from the mind-control.  I guess it's the Net.Jul 08 00:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Death to retail: The rise of the online-only brand http://is.gd/ow1CizJul 08 00:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @tekk no, there are semi-coherent commit messagesJul 08 00:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] 3 new ‘free the internet’ movements: how to choose the one for you http://is.gd/on2P3PJul 08 00:36
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msb__We have a mental mechanism that helps us understand things if we're told them multiple times.  -- Tell me three times that it's true.Jul 08 00:36
msb__So if we read something on many truth-telling websites, instead of, e.g., just one book as previously, then we may be able to access the info and accept it.Jul 08 00:37
msb__I think this is why 9-11 was done 11 years ago, because the rulers knew that their mind-control was threatened by the Net.Jul 08 00:38
DaemonFCyeah, I mentioned to my step dad that I'd never get on a plane until the TSA was disbandedJul 08 00:40
DaemonFChe said "Aren't you afraid of terrorists?"Jul 08 00:40
msb__Yeah, ones that are put on the plane by the State Department.Jul 08 00:41
DaemonFCI said "More Americans die every year from having their TV set fall on them than from terrorism. Being strip searched and living in a fascist police state is too high a price to pay."Jul 08 00:41
DaemonFCI'm not afraid of terroristsJul 08 00:41
DaemonFCnot afraid of them at allJul 08 00:41
DaemonFCmaybe if we were living somewhere like Israel where each side murders scores of the people on the other side day in and day outJul 08 00:42
DaemonFCbut not here, where it happens so infrequently as to be statistically insignificantJul 08 00:42
DaemonFCterrorism isn't even in the top 50 causes of death for AmericansJul 08 00:43
msb__The Israelis have murdered at least 10 times as many Palestinians as vice versa.Jul 08 00:43
DaemonFCwhy aren't we doing anything about cancer or heart disease or suicide?Jul 08 00:43
DaemonFCsuicide is the cause of death for thousands of people every dayJul 08 00:44
DaemonFCit's the third leading cause of death for someone my ageJul 08 00:44
DaemonFCwhat do we spend the money on? terrorismJul 08 00:45
DaemonFCsomething that kills *maybe* 3-4 Americans on an average YEARJul 08 00:45
msb__Cancer remedies are being suppressed -- dichloroacetate, cannabis juice, Burzynski's antineoplastons.Jul 08 00:45
DaemonFCI personally don't have a problem with what someone wants to use as long as it isn't likely to make them a danger to other peopleJul 08 00:46
DaemonFCLSD should probably stay bannedJul 08 00:46
DaemonFCmarijuana? pfftJul 08 00:46
DaemonFCkeep it in your own houseJul 08 00:46
DaemonFCdon't go drivingJul 08 00:46
DaemonFCwho gives a shit?Jul 08 00:46
DaemonFCpeople are told to worry about things that are irrelevant and to not worry about the things they need to worry aboutJul 08 00:47
DaemonFC"Don't worry about your disappearing pension, we're fighting TERRORISTS!!!"Jul 08 00:48
msb__This is the fundamental idea of correct morality "I personally don't have a problem with what someone wants to use as long as it isn't likely to make them a danger to other people".Jul 08 00:48
msb__But our society's idea of morality is Domination.Jul 08 00:48
DaemonFC"Don't worry about the drunk drivers that kill tens of thousands of people every year!" "Worry about some pothead that is sleeping off a buzz in his own home!"Jul 08 00:48
msb__Control.Jul 08 00:48
msb__Cannabis helped deprogram people from believing the govt BS about communism and the Vietnam War.Jul 08 00:49
msb__That's why the us had to give up that war, because of all the protests.Jul 08 00:50
msb__us -> USJul 08 00:50
DaemonFCI figured it was because people were sick of being draftedJul 08 00:50
msb__That's why they made cannabis so illegal at that time.Jul 08 00:50
DaemonFCand the refusal rate was so high that the government had to back offJul 08 00:50
msb__That too.Jul 08 00:50
DaemonFCthey've done everything they had to do to keep from bringing back the draft this timeJul 08 00:51
DaemonFCincluding the "stop loss"Jul 08 00:51
msb__But people knew that pot was waking people up.  It is a psychedelic.Jul 08 00:51
DaemonFCwhich is responsible for so many mental health problems you see in soldiers that return homeJul 08 00:51
DaemonFCa draft would immediately cause a peasant revolt, and they know itJul 08 00:52
DaemonFCyou had people like George W. Bush, who didn't really serve in the militaryJul 08 00:52
msb__If you haven't tried cannabis, you should.Jul 08 00:52
DaemonFCthey just got to put on a uniform and hold an honorary rankJul 08 00:52
DaemonFCto make the system look fairJul 08 00:53
msb__It can free you.Jul 08 00:53
DaemonFCwhile they were AWOL and drunk all the timeJul 08 00:53
msb__Like Linux.Jul 08 00:53
msb__You don't realize how much you were mind-controlled until the control is lifted.Jul 08 00:53
DaemonFCwell, I was in church a lot growing upJul 08 00:54
DaemonFCwas even in some church schoolsJul 08 00:54
DaemonFCmy parents figured that it would "be good for me"Jul 08 00:54
msb__Psychedelics have been freeing people's minds for thousands of years, in many different cultures around the wolrd.Jul 08 00:54
DaemonFCso I was in a Catholic elementary schoolJul 08 00:54
DaemonFCI hated being there, nobody would listen to me, so I did the only thing I could doJul 08 00:55
DaemonFCI got myself expelledJul 08 00:55
DaemonFCI had to work on that for a whileJul 08 00:55
DaemonFCI'm so burned out on these idiots I don't even want to think about them, but they impose themselves on you if you don't seek them outJul 08 00:56
DaemonFCso there's really no getting rid of themJul 08 00:56
msb__http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgmWwMheXkkJul 08 00:58
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1777731Jul 08 01:00
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: FSF and #FSFE Both Speak Out Against UEFI; #Ubuntu Drifts Away From FSF, Whereas #Debian Comes Closer to #FSF http://techrights.org/2012/07/07/debian-vs-ubuntu-on-uefi/ #drmJul 08 01:00
schestowitz"It seems that regardless of any outcome it is going to be harder to install "other" operating systems than what they machine came with originally. Seems like the only losers are the "Off the Shelf" Customers who may want to change operating systems someday. Those that buy individual parts and assemble their own pc's wont have these problems. Its like buying a car and not being able to change gas versions (premium/super/regular) Jul 08 01:00
schestowitzwithout having a signed certifcate from the car builder.. And the "it will be more secure" argument just doesnt seem to hold water ... So why bother doing this ?"Jul 08 01:00
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msb__http://cosmicpenguin.com/linux/MICROSOFTS_WAR_AGAINST_LINUX.htmlJul 08 01:03
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msb__Anyone think closed UEFI might get banned in the EU?Jul 08 01:05
DaemonFCdoubt itJul 08 01:19
msb__Imagine the bribes to be made from Microsoft.Jul 08 01:21
DaemonFCyou mean the EU fines them then whatever they do is fine with themJul 08 01:26
DaemonFC:)Jul 08 01:26
DaemonFCisn't that how it usually goes?Jul 08 01:26
msb__Usually, but this is a simple case of user-controllable UEFI or not. All or nothing.  No long trials or evaluation required.Jul 08 01:28
msb__Hard to hide under the rug.Jul 08 01:28
cubezzzmsb__, you can turn off secure boot, so I hearJul 08 01:30
cubezzzwe'll see I guessJul 08 01:31
msb__I think it depends on the config built into the mobo.Jul 08 01:31
cubezzzwell we have core bootJul 08 01:33
cubezzzand probably other onesJul 08 01:33
cubezzzI'll be ready :)Jul 08 01:33
msb__Microsoft, the psychopath corporation: It can't be bargained with. It can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop, ever.Jul 08 01:37
cubezzzit will eventually stopJul 08 01:37
cubezzzall empires fall eventuallyJul 08 01:37
msb__The Terminator got stopped.Jul 08 01:39
msb__cubezzz: Will coreboot defeat closed UEFI?Jul 08 01:40
cubezzzeventually... AMD is helping Jul 08 01:41
cubezzzand pmon... there will be others as wellJul 08 01:41
cubezzzit's the next logical stepJul 08 01:42
DaemonFChttp://www.sfgate.com/news/article/2-children-found-in-sweltering-Ind-cars-1-dead-3690643.phpJul 08 01:42
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cubezzzjust like now we have FOSS operating systems, in the future there will be a lot of different open bios systemsJul 08 01:43
DaemonFCWho is giving these people children? :PJul 08 01:43
cubezzzalso there is this:Jul 08 01:45
cubezzzhttp://www.pcengines.ch/tinybios.htmJul 08 01:45
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schestowitzlol https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1777984Jul 08 01:50
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cubezzzas you say, it will depend a lot on what the manufacturers doJul 08 01:52
cubezzzthere's a lot of reimplementations of old computers, so if you want to avoid Microsoft there's lots of ways to do thatJul 08 01:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Die drei von der CSU. Warum nur einen Dienstwagen nebst Chauffeur? Dann doch lieber zwei. Ziemlich übertrieben, meine... http://b1t.it/bJmiJul 08 01:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Militarism in perspective [IMG] http://ur1.ca/9qselJul 08 01:57
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msb__cubezzz: It would be very good if _every_ computer could run Linux, not just certain ones.Jul 08 02:00
cubezzzmsb__, impossible, but I know what you meanJul 08 02:01
cubezzzyou mean any modern computer from this point onJul 08 02:01
msb__I mean any computer whose user wants to run Linux at any time in the future.Jul 08 02:01
cubezzzsure, and I think the vast majority of computers will be able toJul 08 02:02
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DaemonFChttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rB5qCQo12PI&feature=relatedJul 08 03:41
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DaemonFCLOLJul 08 03:41
DaemonFChttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QQkY85YCeIJul 08 03:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] RT @evan I think we need to federate merge requests on gitorious, so you can make requests between sites.Jul 08 05:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kernellogauthor/@kernellogauthor] #Linux 3.5-rc6 http://bit.ly/MdRnui "Noticeably fewer commits in here than in -rc5, and I think we're getting closer to a final release."Jul 08 07:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Monetising death [IMG] http://ur1.ca/9qtpvJul 08 08:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Wall Street Confidence Trick: How Interest Rate Swaps Are Bankrupting Local Governments http://ur1.ca/9qtql #wallstreet #usJul 08 08:44
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1778897Jul 08 08:46
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schestowitz"Some people's minds change upon epiphonies :)"Jul 08 08:46
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1778896Jul 08 08:47
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schestowitz"WIKIVERSITY! :)"Jul 08 08:47
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1778896Jul 08 08:49
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schestowitz"That is so true"Jul 08 08:49
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1778874Jul 08 08:49
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schestowitz"lmao"Jul 08 08:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Reshared post from Jorge Castro http://ur1.ca/9qtr1Jul 08 08:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Etherpad Lite 1.1.1 Released http://ur1.ca/9qtrm #fossJul 08 08:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Tails 0.12.1 is out http://ur1.ca/9qts9 #Debian and #TorJul 08 08:59
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schestowitzhttp://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/w6kdo/dell_seeks_linux_fans_to_try_cutprice_ubuntu/Jul 08 09:00
schestowitz"Jul 08 09:00
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schestowitzI just bought a XPS 14 a few months ago. Wiped windows off of the drive and installed Ubuntu 12.04. Works great. No issues. While a 13 inch laptop would be too small for me, kudos to dell for making the attempt. I regret having paid the windows tax but was to lazy to try to get a refund.Jul 08 09:00
schestowitzMy last Dell was a 1545 or something that came with Ubuntu installed. That worked great too.Jul 08 09:00
schestowitzDell does a good job with linux. I would expect their new offering to work just as well.Jul 08 09:00
schestowitz"Jul 08 09:00
schestowitzhttp://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/w6in8/nokia_shies_away_from_direct_patent_extortion_of/Jul 08 09:00
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schestowitz"Ech. Nokia used to be such a cool company. With killing meego they killed all their open source virtues while adopting MS product they absorbed their ethics."Jul 08 09:00
schestowitz"Nokia career: leader - outsourcing - failing - patent troll"Jul 08 09:00
oiaohmschestowitz: Nokia been a little scared by the orcale vs Google caseJul 08 09:01
oiaohmschestowitz: looks like its going to cost Oracle a few million on top of case bills.Jul 08 09:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] There's a lot more of this ahead, now that every American is a mandatory customer: http://is.gd/1YPaFgJul 08 09:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Transmission 2.60 Released http://ur1.ca/9qtsy #linuxJul 08 09:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] U.N. Affirms Internet Freedom http://ur1.ca/9qmtg would be nice to see the Internet freedom endorsed by ones less corrupt. #unJul 08 09:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] You may also need g++ or awk (gawk) or perl, depending on what it is you're compiling.Jul 08 09:27
schestowitzhttp://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/07/linux-guru-returns-to-court/Jul 08 09:34
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schestowitzthey're Linuxwashing itJul 08 09:35
Diablo-D3guru? I thought linus removed his defunct code because he refused to maintain itJul 08 09:35
Diablo-D3"being in prison" is not a viable excuse.Jul 08 09:36
schestowitzthey found some other "reasons"Jul 08 09:39
schestowitzsomething about its reliability., reiser4 intended to fix itJul 08 09:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #meego is alive http://ur1.ca/9qtxb http://ur1.ca/9qqv6Jul 08 09:39
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schestowitzSomeone did continue to maintain it, but I've hardly hard of it in a while. How many servers still have reiserFS?Jul 08 09:40
Diablo-D3probably noneJul 08 09:40
Diablo-D3death by data lossJul 08 09:40
oiaohmDiablo-D3: in fact no.Jul 08 09:57
oiaohmDiablo-D3: Everyone in the Linux world is replaceable.Jul 08 09:57
oiaohmDiablo-D3: Reisers second in project took over the maintaince of his work.Jul 08 09:57
oiaohmDiablo-D3: Linux is desgins on taking acocunt of the bus factor.Jul 08 10:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[torproject/@torproject] Vulnerability found in Cyberoam devices: https://blog.torproject.org/blog/security-vulnerability-found-cyberoam-dpi-devices-cve-2012-3372Jul 08 10:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[torproject/@torproject] The #Tor dev meeting and hackfest in Florence, Italy was a great success. Thanks to everyone who attended!Jul 08 10:07
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Security vulnerability found in Cyberoam DPI devices (CVE-2012-3372) | The Tor Blog .::. Size~: 73.27 KBJul 08 10:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Recent iOS, Mac app crashes linked to botched FairPlay #DRM http://ur1.ca/9qu1tJul 08 10:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Recent iOS, Mac app crashes linked to botched FairPlay DRM | Ars Technica .::. Size~: 34.57 KBJul 08 10:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Civil liberties organisations advocating for a free #internet http://ur1.ca/9qu2cJul 08 10:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Civil liberties organisations advocating for a free internet - The H Open: News and Features .::. Size~: 50.4 KBJul 08 10:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Snapshot of vote for Mandriva's New Name http://ur1.ca/9qu2t http://ur1.ca/9qu2u #mandrivaJul 08 10:14
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Help Mandriva choose a name for its community distribution .::. Size~: 99.91 KBJul 08 10:14
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1775047Jul 08 10:17
TechrightsBot-tr@linux@joindiaspora.com: "I failed the Linux Community" http://everydaylinuxuser.blogspot.co.uk/2012/07/i-failed-linux-community.html #kde #mageia #linuxJul 08 10:17
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schestowitz"With Apple fanboys, I prefer the Samsung approach. Same results, more fun: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVkH9Hgvda4&feature=related "Jul 08 10:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Samsung "Next Big Thing" Galaxy S II Commercial       - YouTube .::. Size~: 153.35 KBJul 08 10:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Chakra 2012.07 Screenshots http://ur1.ca/9qu3a #gnu #linuxJul 08 10:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Verizon: net neutrality violates our free speech rights http://ur1.ca/9qu3r #Verizon #netneutralityJul 08 10:22
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Verizon: net neutrality violates our free speech rights | Ars Technica .::. Size~: 37.78 KBJul 08 10:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] I should be excited about Jolla Ltd. and their announcements on creating new MeeGo smartphones. And I am partly. But s... http://b1t.it/bJo2Jul 08 10:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Jan Wildeboer - Google+ - I should be excited about Jolla Ltd. and their… .::. Size~: 133 KBJul 08 10:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Given that #thunderbird has had nothing truly new *in years* (except extensions), not clear what this /really/ means http://ur1.ca/9qu5eJul 08 10:32
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Thunderbird development to be stalled by Mozilla - The H Open: News and Features .::. Size~: 50.61 KBJul 08 10:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Archbang 2012.07.02 Screenshots (07/05/2012) http://ur1.ca/9qsqy #gnu #linuxJul 08 10:39
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/fcassia/status/221900142570246144?uid=26603208&iid=am-85321533413417400916542487&nid=27+236Jul 08 10:40
TechrightsBot-tr@fcassia: @schestowitz seen plenty of people in panic mode already "looking for alternatives" as if FOSS software would explode when firm stops devtJul 08 10:41
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/fcassia/status/221900366210543617?uid=26603208&iid=am-209358414613417401449382985&nid=27+236Jul 08 10:41
TechrightsBot-tr@fcassia: @schestowitz remember the story of Mozilla Suite>SeaMonkey, community can pick it up & continue dev. If there' s anyt to improve to beg withJul 08 10:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @torproject Vulnerability found in Cyberoam devices: http://ur1.ca/9qu9w ...Jul 08 10:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Page not found | The Tor Blog .::. Size~: 3.37 KBJul 08 10:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] A nice watch to go along with my Gazelle bike :-) http://www.seeedstudio.com/depot/baisha-pocket-watch-p-1080.html?cP... http://b1t.it/bJprJul 08 11:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Baisha Pocket Watch [MSC02141P] - $119.00 : Seeed Studio Bazaar, Boost ideas, extend the reach .::. Size~: 66.25 KBJul 08 11:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Jan Wildeboer - Google+ - A nice watch to go along with my Gazelle bike… .::. Size~: 135.05 KBJul 08 11:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Nice! Etherpad Lite v1.1.1 is out - http://ur1.ca/9quav #inJul 08 11:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Say Hello to Etherpad Lite V1.1.1 › Etherpad Foundation .::. Size~: 26.42 KBJul 08 11:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Reshared post from Andy Hedges http://ur1.ca/9qufiJul 08 11:44
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Nandan Vaidya - Google+ - Wow, did Apple write this article for the BBC?… .::. Size~: 163.59 KBJul 08 11:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] just spent 45 minutes learning not to boot the netbook with the smartphone attached #techditzJul 08 11:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Floods are judgment on society, say bishops - http://bit.ly/NaOGdM I thought these morons died out in 1800s. (v @adrianshort @superglaze)Jul 08 11:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Floods are judgment on society, say bishops - Telegraph .::. Size~: 61.47 KBJul 08 11:54
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1779346Jul 08 11:54
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Transmission 2.60 Released  http://www.muktware.com/3844/transmission-260-released #linuxJul 08 11:54
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schestowitz"It does? What kind of features are you talking about?"Jul 08 11:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Zorin 6 Review http://ur1.ca/9quhz #gnu #linuxJul 08 12:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Zorin 6 Review | Gnuman.com .::. Size~: 22.66 KBJul 08 12:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Cheapening the term "open source" like it's just toilet paper http://ur1.ca/9quijJul 08 12:12
TechrightsBot-trTitle: From Tech to Toilet Paper, Berliner Tries to Live Completely Open Source for One Year | PCWorld Business Center .::. Size~: 78.76 KBJul 08 12:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @jensdehaese @NSZbe Veel te herkenbaar...Jul 08 12:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: #FlatTurtle explained by the students at iRail Summer of code: http://t.co/gKsh80ZR #iSoc12Jul 08 12:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: #iSoc12 FlatTurtle, the zookeepers | iRail .::. Size~: 17.46 KBJul 08 12:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Beliefs and Misbeliefs about Open Source Software http://ur1.ca/9quiy the term is being undermined, like "activist" and "libertarian"Jul 08 12:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Beliefs and Misbeliefs about Open Source Software - Forbes .::. Size~: 65.72 KBJul 08 12:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Mandriva Joins OW2 to Spur Enterprise Innovation in the Open Source Community http://ur1.ca/9quje #opensource #freesoftwareJul 08 12:19
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Mandriva Joins OW2 to Spur Enterprise Innovation in the Open Source Community - SFGate .::. Size~: 86.9 KBJul 08 12:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The worst type of inapt use of term "open source" when they label surveillance/spying/harrassment as "open source intel" http://ur1.ca/9qujnJul 08 12:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Chandra panel bats for open source intel gathering - The Times of India .::. Size~: 128.21 KBJul 08 12:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Maybe for PR purposes the Pentagon will label the Ira* invasion "open source war" because it was done in collaboration w/ other countries...Jul 08 12:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Despite being still in the testing stages, Diaspora* is arguably the most well-known distributed social network" http://ur1.ca/9quk9Jul 08 12:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Rethinking the social network: 3 open-source alternatives to Facebook - Forbes .::. Size~: 68.76 KBJul 08 12:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Many people say they use #facebook because "everyone is on there", but sometimes less=more. Using similar logic, you should be Bieber fan?Jul 08 12:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] If Windows is good because many people use it, are cockroaches good because there's plenty of them everywhere?[obligatory dinosaur meme pic]Jul 08 12:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] VA awards $4.9M contract to support open source tech http://ur1.ca/9qul8 #us #opensourceJul 08 12:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: VA awards $4.9M contract to support open source tech | Healthcare IT News .::. Size~: 41.05 KBJul 08 12:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] France awards €2 million open source support tender http://ur1.ca/9quly #france #opensource #governmentJul 08 12:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: France awards €2 million open source support tender - The H Open: News and Features .::. Size~: 49.78 KBJul 08 12:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 'more you give away the more you get back' http://ur1.ca/9qumb and nature rewards for this. Richard Dawkins: Nice Guys Finish FirstJul 08 12:37
TechrightsBot-trTitle: TEDGlobal 2012: 'The more you give away the more you get back' | Technology | The Observer .::. Size~: 126.11 KBJul 08 12:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 'more you give away the more you get back' http://ur1.ca/9qumb and nature rewards for this. Nice Guys Finish First http://ur1.ca/9qumcJul 08 12:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: TEDGlobal 2012: 'The more you give away the more you get back' | Technology | The Observer .::. Size~: 126.1 KBJul 08 12:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Richard Dawkins: Nice Guys Finish First (BBC)       - YouTube .::. Size~: 154.98 KBJul 08 12:39
schestowitzthunderbird will continue to be extended by extension devsJul 08 12:40
schestowitzthankfullyJul 08 12:40
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/cheezburgrmania/status/221673701479952384Jul 08 12:40
TechrightsBot-tr@cheezburgrmania: @schestowitz what's your take on Ubuntu dev ultrabook? I want it for the boardroom &datacenter, but do dev on workstationJul 08 12:40
schestowitzIf only I was familiar with it...Jul 08 12:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Thunderbird: Stability and Community Innovation | Mitchell's Blog http://goo.gl/1QUPh why spend resources on a bastard IOS browser?Jul 08 12:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Thunderbird:  Stability and Community Innovation  | Mitchell's Blog .::. Size~: 247.58 KBJul 08 12:41
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/95217963Jul 08 12:42
TechrightsBot-tr@वित्तेश देसाई (Vitesh Desai) (viteshdesai)'s status on Saturday, 07-Jul-12 09:52:32 UTC - Identi.ca: Who's Who at #Wikileaks http://ur1.ca/33238 | @glynmoody @schestowitz @effJul 08 12:42
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1779625Jul 08 12:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @zotz I'll have to look into that :)Jul 08 12:46
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Many people say they use #facebook because "everyone is on there", but sometimes less=more. Using similar logic, you should be Bieber fan?Jul 08 12:46
schestowitz"Many people are idiots #justsayin "Jul 08 12:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] When we stop interacting w/ our friends, it's called social isolation.When we quit Facebook, it's called Mark "dumb f*cks" Z loses customer.Jul 08 12:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The reinforce the idea that someone is your friend who cares for your wellbeing, you need not get the digital approval from Mark SociopathJul 08 12:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Good explanation in this video of what makes sociopaths http://ur1.ca/9qunn CEOs rewarded by definition for having no empathy, having greedJul 08 12:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Zizek in A Very Dangerous Q&A       - YouTube .::. Size~: 139.29 KBJul 08 12:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Google "will remove all terrorist videos" http://ur1.ca/9qupq who decides what "terrorism" is? First they came for the terrorists...Jul 08 13:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Google jeopardizes open source intelligence collection efforts - National Intelligence | Examiner.com .::. Size~: 65 KBJul 08 13:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] If you don't oppose 'terrorism', then "you are with the terrorists".If you don't support censorship (aka 'vs child porn'), you are pedophileJul 08 13:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Open Source Awards open for entries http://ur1.ca/9qurx #opensourceJul 08 13:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @jenssegers a lot! :)Jul 08 13:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @jensdehaese @NSZbe Geen slecht idee voor start-up: contracten beheren & wachtrekeningen van hele k http://ur1. ...Jul 08 13:12
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Open Source Awards open for entries | Computerworld New Zealand .::. Size~: 36.07 KBJul 08 13:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "former British Foreign Secretary..told the House of Commons "Al Qaeda" is not really a terrorist group but a database" http://ur1.ca/9qutjJul 08 13:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Al Qaeda: The Database. .::. Size~: 50.63 KBJul 08 13:26
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/palmerv0r/statuses/221941176020901888 http://twitter.com/palmerv0r/statuses/221941414823596032Jul 08 13:30
TechrightsBot-tr@palmerv0r: .@schestowitz I do oppose terrorism, but the problem is it's partly our fault. Am I even allowed to say that now? #terrorJul 08 13:30
TechrightsBot-tr@palmerv0r: .@schestowitz And I'm talking about the few actual terrorist incidents, not the inside jobs, which seem to be the majority. #terrorJul 08 13:30
schestowitzA war on terrorism can itself be terrorismJul 08 13:30
schestowitz"I've been using thunderbird since around 2005-6. The last big change was in 2010 I think when tabs and search bar was added. In my opinion thunderbird has a cleanest interface and is most stable among mail programs I have tested. As long as it is supported for bug fixes I will stick to it. My second choice is probably evolution, but I've seen serious stability issues with upgrade to 3.2 and I don't particularly like calendar layout (Jul 08 13:33
schestowitzas opposed to lightning which neatly fits my netbook screen)."Jul 08 13:33
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1779444Jul 08 13:33
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Given that #thunderbird has had nothing truly new *in  years* (except extensions), not clear what this /really/ means http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Thunderbird-development-to-be-stalled-by-Mozilla-1634151.htmlJul 08 13:33
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: Thunderbird development to be stalled by Mozilla - The H Open: News and Features .::. Size~: 50.58 KBJul 08 13:33
schestowitzIt's the plugins that make TB the best mail/cal app out there. I also use it as my main web browser, thunderbrowse.Jul 08 13:34
schestowitz":D great conclusion, @consensus :D" https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1779625Jul 08 13:37
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Many people say they use #facebook because "everyone is on there", but sometimes less=more. Using similar logic, you should be Bieber fan?Jul 08 13:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] When young man in Iraq opposes Pentagon policies, they label him "potential terrorist"; Westerner opposes said policies, label him nuisance.Jul 08 13:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Civilian does not "support the troops," call him/her "traitor"; Solidier does the same, shut your ears and yell, call him/her "misguided"Jul 08 13:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Pentagon agent penetrates database of foreign gov. comms; give him/her promotion; Manning said to be doing the same, try to execute himJul 08 13:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Woman 'executed for adultery', say Afghan authorities http://is.gd/GsROMFJul 08 13:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BBC News - Woman 'executed for adultery', say Afghan authorities .::. Size~: 73.14 KBJul 08 13:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Military men are dumb, stupid animals to be used as pawns for foreign policy." Henry KissingerJul 08 13:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Henry Kissinger faces tarnished reputation over ugly 'gas chambers' remark http://ur1.ca/9qux5 he also libeled Hitchens like thisJul 08 13:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Henry Kissinger faces tarnished reputation over ugly 'gas chambers' remark about Jews – Telegraph Blogs .::. Size~: 56.47 KBJul 08 13:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Anyone but a Semite criticised Israeli policies, label him/her "anti-Semite", Semite does same, they call him/her "self hating"Jul 08 13:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] denting live from Prague for the next few daysJul 08 13:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Penetrate server of rogue entity to show the corruption, get jail sentence. But if you're FBI, it's called "law enforcementJul 08 13:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @cwebber: the fact that I know every emacs extension I download *has* to be free software means it's much more useful software to me!Jul 08 13:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Double-standard where it's always tilted in favour of those in power is exactly what we get by letting the rich and powerful write the law.Jul 08 13:57
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/95240603Jul 08 13:58
TechrightsBot-tr@Dr. Roy Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Sunday, 08-Jul-12 12:56:11 UTC - Identi.ca: The 1% illegally hides funds overseas, we give them tax breaks (reward). #Elmer exposes their crime, he gets arrested. #wikileaksJul 08 13:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Lockheed Upgrades Joint ISR System With Free Open-Source Software http://ur1.ca/9quyl using FOSS to stomp on our civil libertiesJul 08 14:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] How many Desktop Environments & Window Managers do we need? http://is.gd/PW8HmpJul 08 14:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Lockheed Upgrades Joint ISR System With Free Open-Source Software .::. Size~: 67.22 KBJul 08 14:03
TechrightsBot-trTitle: monsterb.org | daemons, gnus, penguins, and sim racing. Oh my!: How many Desktop Environments & Window Managers do we need? .::. Size~: 81.83 KBJul 08 14:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Use fontBomb to destroy the web http://is.gd/eGPXYBJul 08 14:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Use fontBomb to destroy the web | The Verge .::. Size~: 87.56 KBJul 08 14:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Vietnam considers drastic measures to encourage FOSS http://ur1.ca/9quz2 too bas US govt. considers that terror http://ur1.ca/73xf5Jul 08 14:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] When the US uses software it can control (FOSS), then it's g"great". When other nations do this (for autonomy), it's "anti-American"Jul 08 14:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: VietNamNet - Vietnam considers drastic measures to encourage open source software use | Vietnam considers drastic measures to encourage open source software use .::. Size~: 42.11 KBJul 08 14:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Cablegate: Microsoft Rushes Vietnam to Get Rid of Open Source, Including FOSS Policy | Techrights .::. Size~: 136.16 KBJul 08 14:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The Use of Free and Open Source Software (FOSS) as a Cost-Effective Way of Integrating ICT in Liberian Schools http://ur1.ca/9qv02Jul 08 14:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Use of Free and Open Source Software (FOSS) as a Cost-Effective Way of Integrating ICT in Liberian Schools: The Case of B. W. Harris School .::. Size~: 71.67 KBJul 08 14:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Just added a new page to #techrights wiki: #Microsoft in #Vietnam http://ur1.ca/9qv16Jul 08 14:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft in Vietnam - Techrights .::. Size~: 13.5 KBJul 08 14:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] People often ask, why does #techrights cover negative stories? The answer is, when new products are released, little research is needed.Jul 08 14:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] why do #tennis players shove a few balls in their pocket? ball boy / girl is right behind them at all times with a fresh ball when neededJul 08 14:21
schestowitzbn:assange angryJul 08 14:22
schestowitz!google assange angryJul 08 14:22
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - BBC News - Assange criticises unauthorised Wikileaks memoir | http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-15014133Jul 08 14:22
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Assange angry over Guardian leak of serious Swedish rape claims ... | http://birdflu666.wordpress.com/2010/12/22/assange-angry-over-guardian-leak-of-serious-swedish-rape-claims/Jul 08 14:22
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Video: A "very angry" Julian Assange sounds shaken in Channel 4 ... | http://politicalscrapbook.net/2010/12/julian-assange-c4-interview/Jul 08 14:22
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Julian Assange's police report detailing rape charges leaked ... | http://articles.nydailynews.com/2010-12-19/news/27084911_1_condom-aids-test-wikileaksJul 08 14:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] If the purpose of investigative journalism is to challenge PR and manufactured consent (remember,PR is positive), how can it be "positive"?Jul 08 14:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Common method for shooting the messenger is to insinuate s/he is angry, hating, i.e. irrational, too emotions-driven http://goo.gl/LJyMsJul 08 14:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle: assange angry - Ixquick Web Search .::. Size~: 68.82 KBJul 08 14:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Why does Bill Gates smile so much? Because he is always screwing someone... many someones. http://ur1.ca/1e8bhJul 08 14:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Gates Foundation Critique - Techrights .::. Size~: 100.82 KBJul 08 14:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Wenn das neue Meldegesetz durchkommt, ist wenigstens diese blöde Klarnamendebatte bei FB/G+ gelöst. Die können dann... http://b1t.it/bJsAJul 08 14:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Jan Wildeboer - Google+ - Wenn das neue Meldegesetz durchkommt, ist wenigstens diese… .::. Size~: 134.1 KBJul 08 14:34
XFaCEthow;s it going dude?Jul 08 14:37
XFaCEoopsJul 08 14:37
XFaCEThistleWeb: How;s it going dude?Jul 08 14:37
ThistleWebputting the finishing touches to my new look blog & unseen studioJul 08 14:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Open source middleware protects and maintains CERN collider http://ur1.ca/9qv8f #cern #lhcJul 08 14:37
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Open source middleware protects and maintains CERN collider .::. Size~: 51.34 KBJul 08 14:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Jono Bacon looks like a member of #Anonymous even without putting a mask on, right? http://ur1.ca/9qv8x compare to http://ur1.ca/9qv8yJul 08 14:42
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TechrightsBot-trNot a web page! Aborting image/jpeg typeJul 08 14:43
schestowitzBritain's got talent!Jul 08 14:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @f4bs: RT @Lohan_DAOS: "um ciclista na rua não está atrapalhando o trânsito, ele está ajudando. É um carro a menos na rua."Jul 08 14:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Newsflash: sharing does not impede innovation http://ur1.ca/9qv99Jul 08 14:44
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Open Source: OSS Leads new Software Innovation « Formtek Blog .::. Size~: 76.58 KBJul 08 14:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "You can fool some of the people all of the time, and those are the ones you need to concentrate on." http://ur1.ca/9qv9m #bushJul 08 14:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BBC News | AMERICAS | Bush mocks Bush .::. Size~: 31.92 KBJul 08 14:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Torvalds "gave Linux to the world [..] Linux operating system"; probably mean GNU/Linux operating system but neglect RMS http://ur1.ca/9qvabJul 08 14:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Sign in to read: The Millennium prizewinner who gave Linux to the world - opinion - 13 June 2012 - New Scientist .::. Size~: 23.79 KBJul 08 14:56
schestowitz"i swear it gets more retarded by the minute in the world" https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1779923Jul 08 14:56
TechrightsBot-tr@jargon@joindiaspora.com reshared: Google "will remove all terrorist videos from YouTube." http://www.examiner.com/article/google-jeopardizes-open-source-intelligence-collection-efforts-2 who decides what "terrorism" is? First they came for the terrorists...Jul 08 14:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] For those who need to check their Internet connection in case they can't surf the net on July 9 2012 http://tinyurl.com/cj6xhsf #inJul 08 15:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Taxpayers-funded BBC competes with #Fox on idiots-filled panels, inc. young-earth creationists http://goo.gl/15hHg Very sad.Jul 08 15:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] Indeed, you're right. All language depends on context, and this is no exception.Jul 08 15:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] #Copyleft.next is now under 400 lines!Jul 08 15:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] wish ZaReason sold GNU/Linux machines in UK? here's the help they need to do a "Launch in UK" project through #Seedrs - http://bit.ly/Meu2ZdJul 08 15:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] As an example of a design flaw in github issue tracker, closing a ticket does not seem to stop people from commenting on it.Jul 08 15:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Surprised By File-Sharing Snitches? You Shouldn’t Be http://is.gd/41WlqaJul 08 15:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Warehouse worker takes Amazon for $160,000, stealing 726 iPods and 49 HP laptops in just 41 days http://is.gd/VRxsGfJul 08 15:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] The #Nazi Plan To Breed Lost Animal Species | Disinformation http://goo.gl/XZoxG #wwii #wonderscitekJul 08 16:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Was there Advanced Knowledge of the 7/7 London Bomb Attacks? http://goo.gl/AnHrU #london77 #falseflag + http://ur1.ca/9qvm2Jul 08 16:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] What do people think of applying the #HarveyBirdmanRule to journalists? cc: @bkuhnJul 08 16:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] CheckInstall - Community Ubuntu Documentation http://goo.gl/dSRc #tips #gnulinuxJul 08 16:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Nice to have a little time to catch up on things... I've decided to drop Diaspora, for time preservation reasons.Jul 08 16:51
DaemonFCI happen to think that Apple's bad quality control is deliberateJul 08 16:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] I once shared a copy of Sabayon XFCE.... anyone wanna snitch?Jul 08 16:57
DaemonFCI think the entire point is that when your device fails you're just kind of expected to go buy another oneJul 08 16:58
DaemonFCit works for most consumer electronics companies, so why would Apple be different?Jul 08 16:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Victims of #Obama's drone campaign of mass murder take US to court - YouTube http://goo.gl/FdVls #usa #stateterrorism #dronesJul 08 17:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] COLA is still great (yes I still read) and still the Microsoft Advocates try to bait a response from me.... bless em..Jul 08 17:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Microsoft Advocate seems to think that Desktop sales (with mostly Windows on offer) in some way resembles the phone market with real choice.Jul 08 17:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Funny that when people can choose (like in the phone market) they largely ignore Microsoft and go elsewhere...to Android (or Apple)Jul 08 17:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] If you think you are free, you probably don't understand what freedom means. In all likelihood, your ISP logs you reading this, too.Jul 08 17:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] How !copyright "helps" artists: Def Leppard cuts off Universal Music, re-records "forgeries" of its own hits http://ur1.ca/9qvxgJul 08 17:24
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1779621Jul 08 17:24
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "Despite being still in the testing stages, Diaspora* is arguably the most well-known distributed social network" http://www.forbes.com/sites/wenjiazhao/2012/06/25/3-open-source-alternatives-to-facebook/Jul 08 17:24
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schestowitz#Diaspora is a powerful idea :) i trouble i think is that being a #Rails server application (with a lot of system dependencies) it is too difficult for most people to install and remains as sort of techno niche for free software supportersJul 08 17:24
schestowitzi imagine, if it could be installed easily it would go like super hyper--nova viral and beyond! :)Jul 08 17:24
schestowitzbut it may be that it's going to be more of a cloud based application and that is oddly ironicJul 08 17:24
schestowitz"Jul 08 17:24
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1779938Jul 08 17:25
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Torvalds "gave Linux to the world [..] Linux operating system"; probably mean GNU/Linux operating system but neglect RMS http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21428680.200-the-man-who-gave-linux-to-the-world.htmlJul 08 17:25
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: Sign in to read: The Millennium prizewinner who gave Linux to the world - opinion - 13 June 2012 - New Scientist .::. Size~: 23.79 KBJul 08 17:25
schestowitz"as always..."Jul 08 17:25
schestowitz"the article is behind a paywall! can't read it."Jul 08 17:25
schestowitz"I'm glad to see Linus git this money. It seems fitting. :)"Jul 08 17:25
schestowitzI think it's tragedy that million dollar prizes like Nobel prices almost always go to millionaires rather than people who worked very hard for almost no personal gain.Jul 08 17:26
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tuxbot_Hi there Schestowitz ..Jul 08 17:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Why Phones prove to me people are not wanting Microsoft - http://ur1.ca/9qvy3Jul 08 17:29
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schestowitzhi tuxbot_Jul 08 17:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Peter "Brokep" Sunde, railroaded into Swedish prison by Big Content http://identi.ca/url/72671044 !eff #wtfJul 08 17:31
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tuxbot_I've been banned from using Linux at my local college - for security and 'compliance' reasons !Jul 08 17:31
tuxbot_I wonder what is the state of Linux desktop usage in education in the UK.Jul 08 17:32
tuxbot_Peerhaps you could do a survey ?Jul 08 17:32
tuxbot_And post the results on Techrights ...Jul 08 17:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Passos Coelho alerta para possibilidade de cortes na Saúde e na Educação - SIC http://goo.gl/BsB3i mas há milhões para a banca! #pt #bpnJul 08 17:36
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tuxbot_Interesting, I'll read the whole thing later ...Jul 08 17:37
schestowitzhiJul 08 17:38
schestowitzwell..Jul 08 17:38
schestowitzthere's dual-boot in some labsJul 08 17:38
schestowitzin secondary schools it's mostly MSJul 08 17:38
schestowitzOne of our government clients is mostly Windoiws with FOSS on top, sometimesJul 08 17:38
schestowitzand in the server sideJul 08 17:38
tuxbot_http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/answer-sheet/post/why-the-gates-foundation-is-so-puzzling/2012/07/05/gJQAZJQlQW_blog.htmlJul 08 17:40
schestowitz"there is a sort of 'cultist' bureaucratic system at the hip there, if that is even a word :) in physics in particular i think there are award winning ideas that are not being permitted a fair shot :)" https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1779938Jul 08 17:40
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TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Torvalds "gave Linux to the world [..] Linux operating system"; probably mean GNU/Linux operating system but neglect RMS http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21428680.200-the-man-who-gave-linux-to-the-world.htmlJul 08 17:40
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schestowitzah, Gates and his pedometersJul 08 17:40
DaemonFCschestowitz: I volunteered to go on a local talk radio show as a guest Jul 08 17:41
DaemonFCto talk about how our privacy, security, and freedoms are under attack by the ISP and software monopolies created by CrapitalismJul 08 17:42
tuxbot_Guess who's the largest financier of lobbiests on Capitol Hill?Jul 08 17:43
tuxbot_Wells Fargo takes lead in bank lobbyingJul 08 17:43
tuxbot_http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/f8ed4fc4-c557-11e1-940d-00144feabdc0.html#axzz203AmiHXWJul 08 17:43
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Wells Fargo takes lead in bank lobbying - FT.com .::. Size~: 44.46 KBJul 08 17:43
schestowitzTechrightsBot-tr: thanksJul 08 17:43
schestowitzI will use your link in a post tomorrowJul 08 17:43
schestowitztuxbot_: , not TechrightsBot-trJul 08 17:43
schestowitzDaemonFC: cool!Jul 08 17:44
schestowitzDaemonFC: you have a good radio voiceJul 08 17:44
DaemonFCI posted a pretty long comment on why I disagree with Ron and Rand Paul on their new "internet freedom" platformJul 08 17:44
tuxbot_Buffett Keeps Adding To His Wells Fargo Investment ..Jul 08 17:44
DaemonFCand what's wrong with Microsoft, Apple, and ISPs like Comcast, AT&T, and VerizonJul 08 17:44
tuxbot_http://www.businessinsider.com/why-warren-buffett-keeps-adding-to-his-wells-fargo-investment-2012-7Jul 08 17:44
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schestowitzhe also is on board of the Washington P{ost IIRCJul 08 17:44
DaemonFCpart of that comment....Jul 08 17:44
schestowitzSo was Melinda GatesJul 08 17:44
schestowitzthere was a scandal though\Jul 08 17:45
DaemonFCIn addition to stealing user freedoms, Microsoft and Apple both have HORRENDOUS security records.Jul 08 17:45
DaemonFCIt is foolish for anyone to depend on Microsoft or Apple to keep their system, their data, and their private information safe. It is insane that some government agencies use this "proprietary" software on their systems.Jul 08 17:45
DaemonFCApple has a long record of leaving their security issues unpatched for damned close to a year sometimes and they try to suppress the news of malware invasions on their operating system software even though they happen frequently.Jul 08 17:45
DaemonFCMicrosoft has shown us that Windows will never be safe to use, since Windows XP has has over 3,000 separate security hotfixes over the last 11 years and still frequently gets malware. (And despite their claims, Windows Vista and 7 are just as bad.) They also claim they will fix this in Windows 8. (By taking away your freedom to run the software you choose on the system you own.Jul 08 17:45
schestowitz!google techrights wells fargoJul 08 17:45
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Gates Foundation Critique - Techrights | http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Gates_Foundation_CritiqueJul 08 17:45
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Fraud | Techrights - Part 2 | http://techrights.org/category/fraud/page/2/Jul 08 17:45
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Links 1/3/2012: Raspberry Pi and Cotton Candy, EU ... - Techrights | http://techrights.org/2012/03/01/eu-censorship-plans/Jul 08 17:45
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - 2012 March 01 | Techrights - Part 2 | http://techrights.org/2012/03/01/page/2/Jul 08 17:45
schestowitzGates tooJul 08 17:45
schestowitzsee [1]Jul 08 17:45
schestowitzand NovellJul 08 17:45
DaemonFCI also pointed out further reading about free software, some pointers on how to replace a Windows system with KubuntuJul 08 17:46
DaemonFCsome examples of free software equivalents to proprietary software that is commonly usedJul 08 17:46
DaemonFCI also mentioned that most of them have Windows ports if they wanted to try some of them out without replacing the whole systemJul 08 17:47
DaemonFC"The Pauls refer to Apple and Microsoft as innovators. The are not. The only thing Microsoft and Apple have innovated is how to copy their competitors and run them out of business with nasty backalley deals and frivolous patent litigation.Jul 08 17:48
DaemonFCJudges are starting to get sick of dealing with companies that sue other companies over frivolous patents. A judge recently called Apple a bunch of "animals".Jul 08 17:48
DaemonFCApple is responsible for getting many devices with Android taken off the market (this is about the FURTHEST thing from a free market!!!) because of patent claims. In some cases, the patents are so trivial that they describe things like "a method to unlock the display by swiping your finger".Jul 08 17:48
DaemonFCMicrosoft isn't any better. One of the patents that they extract extortionist license fees from Android companies for is a patent that describes "a back button placed in the address bar of a web browser". They went after Barnes & Noble's Android-based Nook eReader with that one."Jul 08 17:48
tuxbot_Schestowitz: I just googled techrights on 'wells fargo', way ahead of the curve as usual ... Jul 08 17:48
schestowitztuxbot_: am super busy right nopwJul 08 17:49
schestowitzwait a while here, will be backJul 08 17:49
tuxbot_ok .. I'll go silent ...Jul 08 17:49
DaemonFCas for ISPs...Jul 08 17:49
DaemonFC"Government deregulation like the Pauls want would not result in lower prices or more generous bandwidth packages, it would almost certainly result in smaller caps, exemptions from the caps of their own "walled garden" content, and higher prices.Jul 08 17:50
DaemonFCIt would replace government protected monopolies with direct industry collusion and price fixing."Jul 08 17:50
DaemonFC"You might remember that these telecom monopolies basically get whatever they want from the government already in return for spying on American web traffic, emails, instant messaging, and of course telephone calls.Jul 08 17:51
DaemonFCWhy should they be further deregulated? Don't they already have an easy enough time getting most of what they want already? (Limited consumer choice, protected monopolies in exchange for spying, etc.)?"Jul 08 17:51
DaemonFCI also went into how ISPs get away with Cap and Gouge and the government does nothing about thatJul 08 17:51
DaemonFCand how they take $1 worth of bandwidth and sell it to you for $10 in their 50 GB overage packagesJul 08 17:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #xfiles #vc: mais um a prestar vassalagem ao seu deus! http://goo.gl/RPFvb ; coincidências? pois sim! http://ur1.ca/9qw0zJul 08 17:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] Time to try and finally finish watching all the Star Wars movies.Jul 08 17:52
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DaemonFCthe effects of actual deregulation are so similar to what we already see that it's not even worth trying forJul 08 17:53
schestowitzok, back for a moJul 08 17:54
DaemonFCin exchange for selling out their users, they already get protected territories and the rights to gouge their customersJul 08 17:54
schestowitztuxbot_: the site has almost `17000 pages, so well fargo is mentioned a lotJul 08 17:54
schestowitzbut from what I recalled:Jul 08 17:54
schestowitzNovell had some financial issues it had talked about with Well FargoJul 08 17:54
DaemonFCif they got deregulated, they'd just agree with each other in civil contracts what territories their competitors will agree to stay out of so they don't have to compete on priceJul 08 17:55
schestowitzThat was just before it signed the MS dealJul 08 17:55
DaemonFCwe'll get the same thing and call it something elseJul 08 17:55
schestowitzI reckon they were desperate foor cashJul 08 17:55
schestowitzand Microsoft gave it for Novell to become its droneJul 08 17:55
schestowitzNovell also had debt, quite a big debtJul 08 17:55
tuxbot_missing link ..Jul 08 17:55
tuxbot_http://www.examiner.com/article/wells-fargo-charged-with-fraud-mortgage-morassJul 08 17:55
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schestowitzseparately, IIRC Gates invests in this bankJul 08 17:55
schestowitzThe big crook invests in crook, so no big news thereJul 08 17:55
tuxbot_I wonder why we don't hear about all this on Faux News :)Jul 08 17:56
schestowitztuxbot_: show DaemonFCJul 08 17:56
schestowitzMaybe he can bring it up on the radioJul 08 17:56
schestowitzI reckon today's young people will quickly grow tired of this extreme capitalismJul 08 17:56
schestowitzThey graduatre and can't find jobsJul 08 17:56
schestowitzor decent job, or decent pay and working hoursJul 08 17:56
schestowitzRebellion is afootJul 08 17:56
schestowitz[17:56] <tuxbot_> I wonder why we don't hear about all this on Faux News :)Jul 08 17:57
schestowitzMaybe.Jul 08 17:57
schestowitzBut..Jul 08 17:57
schestowitz.The question is, who will they point the finger atJul 08 17:57
schestowitzBanks?Jul 08 17:57
schestowitzBorrowers?Jul 08 17:57
schestowitzOrJul 08 17:57
schestowitzImmigrantsJul 08 17:57
schestowitz"the MEXICANS"Jul 08 17:57
schestowitzTHEY STEALZ ALL OUR JOBS!!!Jul 08 17:57
schestowitzRace warsJul 08 17:57
schestowitzFTWJul 08 17:57
tuxbot_Rebbelion: I don't think so, they're too busy watching X-Factor and dreaming of getting on Bbrother ..Jul 08 17:57
DaemonFCwhen the government intervenes, it should be on the side of the people, not the billionairesJul 08 17:57
schestowitzIgnore the real issues,m fight internaklly, don't trust thy neighbourJul 08 17:58
DaemonFCthey should come in and tell ISPs that they have to compete with each otherJul 08 17:58
DaemonFCif a competitor comes along as says they will give you better service and lower prices, then they have a right to win your businessJul 08 17:58
DaemonFCthat's how real Capitalism is supposed to workJul 08 17:58
schestowitzISPs bu the politiciansJul 08 17:58
tuxbot_gtg ...Jul 08 17:59
schestowitzEvery 4 years comcas adn at&t gather around withverizon and other ans select the puppet they like mostJul 08 17:59
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schestowitzThis time they select a a half-black manJul 08 17:59
DaemonFCyeahJul 08 17:59
schestowitzWHo is harder to criticize..Jul 08 17:59
DaemonFCand they have no reason to want MittensJul 08 17:59
schestowitzIf you don't like the politics, you'\re racistJul 08 17:59
DaemonFCthey fund both of them anywayJul 08 17:59
DaemonFCon the off chance that Mittens gets in, they already own him too on day 1Jul 08 17:59
schestowitzthey play a game of chaseJul 08 18:00
schestowitztowards the end they can better fund the party which they perceived as more ebneficialJul 08 18:00
schestowitzand then they'll pass new laws leading to more savings or income that outweights the cost of buying politiciansJul 08 18:00
DaemonFCrightJul 08 18:00
schestowitzthe US was under coup detre by its own domestic businessesJul 08 18:01
DaemonFCtax abatements are a popular form of corporate welfareJul 08 18:01
schestowitzthere's no easy escape from this deadlockJul 08 18:01
DaemonFCWalmart sucks towns dry demanding thoseJul 08 18:01
DaemonFCand if they don't get them, they will open up in the next town over, or right outside the town limitsJul 08 18:01
schestowitztax breaks are like Obama's and Bush way of paying back their fundersJul 08 18:01
DaemonFCavoid most of the taxes anywayJul 08 18:01
schestowitz"we pay for your campaign, you pay us back in tax breaks"Jul 08 18:01
DaemonFCand customers will just have to drive further to get thereJul 08 18:01
schestowitzwe give money, you give power"Jul 08 18:01
DaemonFCthey get towns to go to war with each other over a few minimum wage jobs that nobody can be expected to live onJul 08 18:02
schestowitzthe US is more corrupt than the UKJul 08 18:02
DaemonFCand then they dump those employees on the welfare systemJul 08 18:02
schestowitzI am so happy that only my relatives live thereJul 08 18:02
schestowitz[they're less happy about it :-) ]Jul 08 18:02
DaemonFCschestowitz: ALDI actually has Walmart beat, I just don't think Walmart realizes the trouble they are in yetJul 08 18:03
DaemonFCALDI grocery prices average about 30-35% lower than WalmartJul 08 18:03
DaemonFCand they pay their employees much betterJul 08 18:03
DaemonFCWalmart tanks the economy, eventually kills itself tooJul 08 18:04
DaemonFCthat's how history will remember thisJul 08 18:04
DaemonFCwhen the Koch brothers and associates succeed in tanking Social Security, food stamps, and Medicare and Medicaid, the bottom will fall out from under WalmartJul 08 18:05
schestowitzAldi is oligarch supermarket cartelJul 08 18:05
schestowitzthey make the supermarkets like pepsi vs cokeJul 08 18:06
DaemonFCpeople being propped up by welfare are a good chunk of their customer baseJul 08 18:06
schestowitzGates is investing in walmartJul 08 18:06
schestowitza lotJul 08 18:06
DaemonFCwell, they don't think there's any more growth to be had in the USJul 08 18:06
DaemonFCthey realize that htey've nearly sucked us dry alreadyJul 08 18:06
DaemonFCthey're looking for growth outside the US nowJul 08 18:07
cubezzzfigures Gates would invest in Walmart Jul 08 18:07
DaemonFCschestowitz: ALDI has Now Hiring signs outJul 08 18:07
DaemonFCthey actually tell you what you're going to getJul 08 18:08
DaemonFCand $12.50 an hour and 36-40 hours a week sounds a lot better than Walmart Jul 08 18:08
DaemonFCWalmart typically starts out as close to minimum wage as they think they can getJul 08 18:08
DaemonFCWalmart is a public menaceJul 08 18:09
DaemonFCand they even get people that hate them shopping there once they drive everything else out of townJul 08 18:09
cubezzzwe have Loblaws and Sobey's hereJul 08 18:10
cubezzzand Metro... so lots of choicesJul 08 18:10
DaemonFCcubezzz: I move to a much bigger city next yearJul 08 18:11
DaemonFCthere's choices thereJul 08 18:11
DaemonFCI plan to stop shopping at Walmart and start shopping at MeijerJul 08 18:11
DaemonFCthey pay their employees better, have better merchandise, and they're headquartered in MichiganJul 08 18:12
DaemonFCwhich is a lot closer to me than Bentonville, ArkansasJul 08 18:12
DaemonFC:PJul 08 18:12
DaemonFCand they don't try to drive away unionsJul 08 18:12
DaemonFCand even despite that, their prices are comparable to WalmartJul 08 18:12
DaemonFCtheir margins may not be what Walmart's are, but they are not losing moneyJul 08 18:13
schestowitzMy cousin in Florida just sent me this:Jul 08 18:13
schestowitz> Why not join Apple's Affiliate Program?Jul 08 18:13
schestowitz> Jul 08 18:13
schestowitz> Jul 08 18:13
schestowitz> http://www.apple.com/itunes/affiliates/Jul 08 18:13
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schestowitzI boycott Apple. It's a despicable company.Jul 08 18:13
schestowitzLOLJul 08 18:13
schestowitzHe should know better about how I feel about the Apple CultJul 08 18:13
schestowitzDaemonFC: Aldi is goodJul 08 18:13
schestowitzI shop there sometimesJul 08 18:13
schestowitzAnd in Sainsbury'sJul 08 18:14
schestowitzThe latter does deliveries and Internet shoppingJul 08 18:14
DaemonFCI stopped there yesterday for fresh produceJul 08 18:14
DaemonFCended up costing me like $13Jul 08 18:14
schestowitzAldi pays well here tooJul 08 18:14
DaemonFCat Walmart, the same stuff would have been at least $25Jul 08 18:14
schestowitzfamously soJul 08 18:14
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DaemonFCWalmart is unreasonable on produce pricesJul 08 18:14
schestowitzyes, Aldi can be half price compared to local stores with std. suppliersJul 08 18:14
DaemonFCand the quality is not good eitherJul 08 18:14
schestowitzget thisJul 08 18:14
schestowitzpeaches in syrup 400 gram for 29pJul 08 18:15
schestowitzThat's liek 50 centsJul 08 18:15
schestowitzmilk: 2.3 litres for 1 pound, about a dollar fiftyJul 08 18:15
schestowitz15 eggs 1.25Jul 08 18:15
schestowitzyou can get only half that for the same price elsewehreJul 08 18:16
DaemonFCI lost my last receipt, but yeahJul 08 18:16
schestowitzthey make money from stuff they charge normally onJul 08 18:16
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schestowitzlike fruit and mearsJul 08 18:16
schestowitz*ematsJul 08 18:16
DaemonFCa pound of fresh strawberries, $1.69Jul 08 18:16
DaemonFCWalmart wants $2.50Jul 08 18:16
DaemonFCa dozen large eggs for $1Jul 08 18:16
schestowitzif you go there for commodity you often might wonder if they make any proifit at all, but they do.. same method as WalmartJul 08 18:16
DaemonFCWalmart wants $1.48Jul 08 18:16
DaemonFCa gallon of milk is $2,39, Walmart wants $3Jul 08 18:17
schestowitzgallon in the US is 4.5 litres?Jul 08 18:17
schestowitzUK gallon is differentJul 08 18:17
DaemonFC3.78 litersJul 08 18:17
schestowitzOK, so it's consistent wrt prices hereJul 08 18:17
DaemonFCyeahJul 08 18:18
schestowitzthe US would subsidise walmart rather than let it be beaten by the GermansJul 08 18:18
DaemonFCa pound of shredded cheddar cheese is $2.99 at ALDI, it's $4.98 at Walmart(!!!!!!!)Jul 08 18:18
schestowitzmust keep the billiomnaires in the USJul 08 18:18
schestowitzThe most valued assets... "job creators " LOLJul 08 18:18
DaemonFCa cup of yogurt at ALDI is 40 cents, Walmart's Great Value yogurt is 55 cents a cupJul 08 18:19
schestowitzyes, cheese is also cheap at AldiJul 08 18:19
schestowitzand rice, pasta..Jul 08 18:19
DaemonFCa pound of tomatoes at ALDI is $1.38Jul 08 18:19
schestowitzthe less famous labelsJul 08 18:19
DaemonFCWalmart's is $1.86Jul 08 18:19
schestowitzbooze is cheap alsoJul 08 18:19
DaemonFCa 34 ounce can of coffee is $5.86 at ALDI, Walmart's Great Value brand is $6.80Jul 08 18:19
schestowitznot all of itJul 08 18:19
schestowitzbut the special offersJul 08 18:19
DaemonFCALDI saves you a LOT of moneyJul 08 18:19
schestowitzi does, but I go there for other reasonsJul 08 18:20
DaemonFCI go through at least two cans of coffee and 4 gallons of milk every monthJul 08 18:20
schestowitzIt's just close to my houseJul 08 18:20
schestowitzotherwise I just order online from Sainsbury's  (British giant)Jul 08 18:20
schestowitz2 cans of cofee?Jul 08 18:20
DaemonFCjust coffee and milk, ALDI saves me about $5 a monthJul 08 18:20
schestowitzHow much in each?Jul 08 18:20
DaemonFCand that's not even counting the other groceriesJul 08 18:20
schestowitzcompred to walmartJul 08 18:20
schestowitzgo figure how much a cornershop would chargeJul 08 18:21
DaemonFCTwo cans of coffee at Walmart, their brand, $13.60Jul 08 18:21
DaemonFCvs. $11.72 at ALDIJul 08 18:21
DaemonFCI memorize prices a lotJul 08 18:21
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DaemonFChelps me keep track of who is on first base :)Jul 08 18:21
schestowitzalcafe?Jul 08 18:22
DaemonFCALDI calls their Belmont hereJul 08 18:22
schestowitzohJul 08 18:22
schestowitzwell, it's decentJul 08 18:22
schestowitzbut I stopped with coffeeJul 08 18:22
DaemonFCbut I didn't get their coffee this month because Walgreens went on saleJul 08 18:22
DaemonFC$4.95 a canJul 08 18:22
DaemonFCso I stocked WAY upJul 08 18:22
schestowitzmy fiancée wants me to drink tea insteadJul 08 18:22
schestowitzhow much "up"?Jul 08 18:22
DaemonFCthe expiration date was way into next year, so I ended up buying a dozen cans of coffee at WalgreensJul 08 18:23
schestowitzI have ab0ut 200 cans in my cardboard right nowJul 08 18:23
DaemonFCheheJul 08 18:23
schestowitzsainsbury's... from the online storeJul 08 18:23
schestowitzI think the most tuna cans I even bought was around 200 at one timeJul 08 18:23
DaemonFCthe only time I shop at Walmart, is when their competitors are having a saleJul 08 18:23
DaemonFCthey will match competing pricesJul 08 18:23
DaemonFCor, when I have REALLY GOOD couponsJul 08 18:23
schestowitzsales not exploited in large numbers go wastedJul 08 18:24
DaemonFCI kind of like going in there jsut to shop their competitors salesJul 08 18:24
DaemonFClosing them moneyJul 08 18:24
DaemonFCyeahJul 08 18:24
schestowitzwhat coupons?Jul 08 18:24
DaemonFCstuffed my freezer FULL this month on their competitors sale prices, heheJul 08 18:24
DaemonFCdependsJul 08 18:24
schestowitzget another old freezerJul 08 18:24
schestowitzcan save you moneyJul 08 18:24
DaemonFCthis month I found some good ones for turkey burgers, turkey bacon, yogurtJul 08 18:24
DaemonFCsour creamJul 08 18:24
schestowitzI have two fridges just for me hereJul 08 18:25
DaemonFCoh yeah, I might look into one of those chest freezersJul 08 18:25
schestowitzyou can get an old one if it's just for storageJul 08 18:26
DaemonFCI suppose cans of sealed coffee would proibably last way past their dater if you put them in a freezerJul 08 18:26
DaemonFC*dateJul 08 18:26
DaemonFCyeahJul 08 18:26
schestowitzmine are new ones, but for secondary you could just grab Dawn's for a fiver... she's brokeJul 08 18:26
DaemonFCdon't open it much except to restock the main freezerJul 08 18:26
schestowitzshe can use her b/f'sJul 08 18:26
DaemonFCfill it with salesJul 08 18:26
schestowitznow that he doesn't keep children inside themJul 08 18:26
DaemonFCschestowitz: I stopped drinking soda pretty much completelyJul 08 18:27
schestowitzyou can't stock up milk thoughJul 08 18:27
DaemonFCI drank through diet pop like crazy and it was eating up a good chunk of moneyJul 08 18:27
schestowitzbread is hard to, un less you are willing to spoil the textureJul 08 18:27
DaemonFCso I replaced that with a water filtering pitcherJul 08 18:27
DaemonFC:)Jul 08 18:27
schestowitzmakr teaJul 08 18:27
DaemonFCour tap water is disgusting but it's surprisingly good after you filter itJul 08 18:27
schestowitzleave it on the tableJul 08 18:27
schestowitzin large glassesJul 08 18:27
schestowitzadd ice laterJul 08 18:28
schestowitzice raysJul 08 18:28
schestowitzmore healthyJul 08 18:28
DaemonFCI worked it out, and came to the conclusion that it costs me about 8 cents a gallon to filter my tap waterJul 08 18:28
schestowitzreal sugarJul 08 18:28
schestowitzand tea, not sweeteners, chemicals, acids, and colourantsJul 08 18:28
DaemonFCbuying filtered water at the supermarket is 39 cents a gallon, then you have to lug it all home :PJul 08 18:28
DaemonFCthen you haveto go back when you run out :PJul 08 18:28
DaemonFCblecthJul 08 18:28
schestowitzyes, waste of bakkster spaceJul 08 18:28
schestowitzeven if carried by car, it can be heavy to lug to car and then to doorJul 08 18:29
schestowitzit takes up fridge spaceJul 08 18:29
DaemonFCand you burn more gasolineJul 08 18:29
schestowitzmehJul 08 18:29
DaemonFCheading to the store and back jsut for waterJul 08 18:29
schestowitznegligibleJul 08 18:29
schestowitzthe car is like a tonneJul 08 18:29
schestowitzrich people can't drink "free stuff"Jul 08 18:30
schestowitzThey think the moe expensive, the better and more admirableJul 08 18:30
DaemonFCI don't know why they can't just get a tap water filterJul 08 18:30
schestowitzso they won'tdrinik 'free' water like the ;'little people'Jul 08 18:30
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DaemonFCit's really cheap and it tastes better than bottled waterJul 08 18:30
schestowitzThough it depends whwereJul 08 18:30
schestowitzin Turkey you can't drink from the tap, they advise against itJul 08 18:30
schestowitzin the UK it's mostly fineJul 08 18:30
DaemonFCin the US, the tap water is usually safe to drinkJul 08 18:31
schestowitzall that Brita BS is more like a door-to-door MLM scamJul 08 18:31
DaemonFCthe taste varies a lot thoughJul 08 18:31
DaemonFCa pitcher filter gets rid of the bad tasteJul 08 18:31
DaemonFCwell, those Brita filters are expensive for no more than you getJul 08 18:31
DaemonFCeach one of them is like $12-13 and only filters 40 gallonsJul 08 18:32
schestowitzmehJul 08 18:32
DaemonFCFiltrete filters filter 100 gallons each and cost less than $10Jul 08 18:32
schestowitzare they still around?Jul 08 18:32
DaemonFCdifferent company runs Brita in the USJul 08 18:32
DaemonFCCloroxJul 08 18:32
schestowitztheir marketing is based on making you digusted by what's normalJul 08 18:32
schestowitzSame with all sorts of HooversJul 08 18:32
schestowitzThey are trying to brand waterJul 08 18:33
DaemonFCFiltrete ends up costing less than half of what Brita doesJul 08 18:33
schestowitzbranding PR strategies applied to the commonsJul 08 18:33
schestowitzwhat's next, air?Jul 08 18:33
DaemonFCthe filters are a few bucks cheaper and they filter more than twice the waterJul 08 18:33
schestowitzWit BRita, it's expensive cause you pay for the marketingJul 08 18:33
schestowitzto be deceivedJul 08 18:33
DaemonFCrightJul 08 18:34
schestowitzlike Apple for normal compputerJul 08 18:34
DaemonFCFiltrete doesn't advertise a lotJul 08 18:34
DaemonFCbut their filters work well enoughJul 08 18:34
schestowitzThe execs know the business model is blow billions on ads, then charge accordingly to make up the gapJul 08 18:34
DaemonFCI was looking through the aisle and thought "$13 for 40 gallons!?!?"Jul 08 18:35
DaemonFCthen there's Filtrete filters for $10, and they filter 100 gallons eachJul 08 18:35
DaemonFCso that's the system I went withJul 08 18:35
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schestowitzDaemonFC: you got TV?Jul 08 18:35
schestowitzon loan?Jul 08 18:35
DaemonFCI own itJul 08 18:36
schestowitzborrowed on credit card?Jul 08 18:36
DaemonFCI paid off all my credit cardsJul 08 18:36
DaemonFCI kept one to use for the cashbackJul 08 18:36
DaemonFCbut I pay it back right away and accumulate my pointsJul 08 18:36
schestowitzhow do you reconcile support of chains like walmart and aldi with the idea that they take away choice?Jul 08 18:36
schestowitzlol "points"Jul 08 18:36
schestowitzon cedit cardsJul 08 18:37
schestowitzmore pseudio-games to keep people playing with the debt trapsJul 08 18:37
DaemonFCrightJul 08 18:37
DaemonFCbut if you pay it right back there's no interestJul 08 18:37
DaemonFCso they end up paying you to use their cardJul 08 18:37
schestowitzmaybe they count on not having many who know the tricksJul 08 18:37
DaemonFCI started throwing all my bills at itJul 08 18:37
DaemonFCpaying them right offJul 08 18:37
schestowitzthey need to capitalise on Useful idiotsJul 08 18:37
schestowitzmaybe they'll close the loopholeJul 08 18:38
DaemonFCschestowitz: Pretty much all my spending except at ALDI is on the credit cardJul 08 18:38
DaemonFCthen it gets paid right backJul 08 18:38
schestowitzexploit it whoile it lasts, don't help too many people do that toJul 08 18:38
schestowitz*tooJul 08 18:38
DaemonFCthen I get typically 1.5% of what I paid backJul 08 18:38
schestowitzin points?Jul 08 18:38
schestowitzNo gotcha?Jul 08 18:38
DaemonFCno gotchaJul 08 18:39
schestowitzlike bad credit report?Jul 08 18:39
DaemonFCI come home, apply my points as an account creditJul 08 18:39
DaemonFCthen I pay back what's leftJul 08 18:39
DaemonFC:)Jul 08 18:39
DaemonFCif I spend $100, I pay back $98.50Jul 08 18:39
schestowitzdid yu tell felta?Jul 08 18:39
DaemonFCyeahJul 08 18:39
DaemonFChe does it tooJul 08 18:39
DaemonFC:)Jul 08 18:39
schestowitzcoolJul 08 18:39
schestowitzshame we don't have the same hereJul 08 18:39
schestowitzI get 1% back on what I spend in Siansbury'sJul 08 18:39
DaemonFCmight as well claw back some money from themJul 08 18:39
schestowitzvia NectarJul 08 18:40
DaemonFCso few people use their card like that that it doesn't hurt themJul 08 18:40
DaemonFCthey use it to lure people in to get them to overspendJul 08 18:40
schestowitzthey want you to rely on itJul 08 18:40
schestowitzone day you might get lazy and brokeJul 08 18:40
DaemonFCif everyone started doing this, they'd stop running these programsJul 08 18:40
schestowitzand the direct debit will have you penalised badlyJul 08 18:40
schestowitzconvenience vs lossJul 08 18:40
DaemonFCschestowitz: my credit has actually gone WAY up this yearJul 08 18:41
schestowitzcoolJul 08 18:41
schestowitzI would never touch debt cardsJul 08 18:41
DaemonFC44 points since January aloneJul 08 18:41
schestowitzaka "credit" cardsJul 08 18:41
DaemonFCof course there's also the Vantagescore, which few companies actually useJul 08 18:41
DaemonFCin the past two years, they went from rating my credit a D- to a BJul 08 18:42
schestowitzSome people work for 20 years just to pay back for their higher eduJul 08 18:42
DaemonFCon their scale anywayJul 08 18:42
koolhead17hi allJul 08 18:42
schestowitzhiJul 08 18:42
DaemonFCschestowitz: you can't invest in your citizens!Jul 08 18:42
DaemonFCZOMG SOCIALISM!!!Jul 08 18:43
DaemonFCZOMG!!111112Jul 08 18:43
schestowitzkoolhead17: today she bought the dressesJul 08 18:43
schestowitzDaemonFC: invest?Jul 08 18:43
schestowitzmore like robJul 08 18:43
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DaemonFCI consider what Finland does an investmentJul 08 18:43
koolhead17schestowitz, awesome. dude what is the date of grand event :)Jul 08 18:43
*schestowitz boild water for teaJul 08 18:43
DaemonFCwhere all of their citizens can go to college for freeJul 08 18:43
schestowitz18 dec.Jul 08 18:43
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DaemonFCschestowitz: I found a way to bring my car insurance down to $18.77 a month from August to FebruaryJul 08 18:46
DaemonFC:)Jul 08 18:46
DaemonFCProgressive has a one time online signing discount, a paid in full discount, then I can use my credit card to pay in full, hit the account with the credit it generates, and then pay the rest backJul 08 18:47
DaemonFCthen at the end of that 6 months, I check everyone's rates again and if someone else is cheaper, I move over to themJul 08 18:47
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DaemonFCit gives me 6 months of really cheap car insurance anywayJul 08 18:48
DaemonFCafter that I can figure out what to do when February of 2013 gets hereJul 08 18:48
DaemonFCmy car insurance rates are pretty cheap because I have a good driving recordJul 08 18:48
DaemonFCDawn was paying about $150 a month for state minimumJul 08 18:49
DaemonFCahe's had speeding tickets, DUIs, all kinds of stuffJul 08 18:49
DaemonFCshe backed up and ran over someone's foot, it went up againJul 08 18:49
DaemonFC:PJul 08 18:50
DaemonFC*she'sJul 08 18:50
DaemonFCpoor Dawn, wonder how she's doing....Jul 08 18:50
schestowitz[18:43] <DaemonFC> I consider what Finland does an investmentJul 08 18:52
schestowitzyeahJul 08 18:52
schestowitzbut...Jul 08 18:52
schestowitzpopulation is smallerJul 08 18:52
schestowitz[18:46] <DaemonFC> schestowitz: I found a way to bring my car insurance down to $18.77 a month from August to FebruaryJul 08 18:58
schestowitzUnliek Dawn's at over $100Jul 08 18:58
schestowitz[18:49] <DaemonFC> Dawn was paying about $150 a month for state minimumJul 08 18:58
schestowitzyeahJul 08 18:58
schestowitzLOLJul 08 18:58
schestowitzMaybe she'll get the message and just stop drivingJul 08 18:58
koolhead17schestowitz, awesome. she has good time/months 4 shopping :)Jul 08 18:58
schestowitzor not driving under the infleunceJul 08 18:58
DaemonFCschestowitz: stores like to capitalize on people with what they delicately call a "liquidity problem"Jul 08 18:59
schestowitzyes, we need the rings soon, we have the engagement ring, not the wedding bands yetJul 08 18:59
schestowitzwe got engaged almost exactly 5 months agoJul 08 18:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Europe Rejects #ACTA: What it Means for Hollywood - http://bit.ly/OLpvA5 "politically it was radioactive" (v @howardknopf)Jul 08 18:59
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DaemonFCsmall product sizes with high unit/volume costsJul 08 18:59
DaemonFC:)Jul 08 18:59
DaemonFCif you can buy in bulk and save a little bit here and there, it makes more sense to do thatJul 08 19:00
DaemonFCbut some people are persistently broke, and so in the long run, they spend more and get less because they don't have the money to stock up on anything that dayJul 08 19:00
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schestowitzkoolhead17: A long way, never once did we argue... yet. :-) It's okay not to agree on some things; we always resolve things very quickly.Jul 08 19:01
Guest18344hi guysJul 08 19:01
schestowitzGuest18344: hiJul 08 19:01
DaemonFCWalmart sells 1.5 liter bottles of Equate mouthwash (off brand Listering formulation) for $2.98, but if you buy a twin pack, it is $5.42Jul 08 19:01
koolhead17schestowitz, :PJul 08 19:01
DaemonFCor $2.71 a bottleJul 08 19:02
DaemonFCthey sell two 4 ounce bars of bath soap for $1, which is 50 cents per barJul 08 19:02
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DaemonFCif you spend $2.98, you get 8 4 ounce barsJul 08 19:02
DaemonFCyou pay 37 cents per barJul 08 19:03
schestowitzkoolhead17: and she's ok with me being a geek, she also has a university degree like mine (CS)Jul 08 19:03
DaemonFCthey do that with toilet paper and paper towels, and well, lots of stuff reallyJul 08 19:03
schestowitzKuzmi4: sup?Jul 08 19:03
Kuzmi4what?Jul 08 19:03
schestowitzwalmart itself is q toilet bowlJul 08 19:03
DaemonFCbut you should check each time you do that because sometimes they slip in a price increase when you buy in bulkJul 08 19:03
schestowitzdid you see PeopleOfWalmart?Jul 08 19:03
DaemonFCI catch them doing that about 10% of the timeJul 08 19:03
koolhead17schestowitz, Jul 08 19:04
koolhead17:)Jul 08 19:04
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schestowitz!google PeopleOfWalmartJul 08 19:04
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - People of Walmart | http://www.peopleofwalmart.com/Jul 08 19:04
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Funny Pictures at WalMart Photos - People of Walmart | http://www.peopleofwalmart.com/photos/Jul 08 19:04
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Funny Pictures at WalMart Top Rated - People of Walmart | http://www.peopleofwalmart.com/photos/top-rated/Jul 08 19:04
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - People of Walmart (PeopleofWalmart) on Twitter | http://twitter.com/PeopleofWalmartJul 08 19:04
DaemonFCyeah, I love that siteJul 08 19:04
schestowitzDaemonFC: http://www.peopleofwalmart.com/photos/top-rated/ Dawn at #1?Jul 08 19:04
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DaemonFCit's just like going to Walmart without actually having to go to WalmartJul 08 19:04
DaemonFCschestowitz: No, add some wrinkles and make her hair more deadJul 08 19:05
DaemonFC:)Jul 08 19:05
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schestowitzsee #2... LOLJul 08 19:05
schestowitzUpDike up your never mind..Jul 08 19:05
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DaemonFCUpdike was our police chief before he was our mayorJul 08 19:06
DaemonFChe even had his own penis scandal Jul 08 19:06
DaemonFCwhen he was caught masturbating to porn while sitting at his desk at the police departmentJul 08 19:06
schestowitzouch, ma eyes! http://www.peopleofwalmart.com/50146/yellow-moons/Jul 08 19:07
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schestowitzDaemonFC: link?Jul 08 19:07
DaemonFCCLEETUS!!!!Jul 08 19:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @greetd: This must be the first time ever that I'm thinking, yay, back to work tomorrow! :D #iSoc12Jul 08 19:07
DaemonFCwell, you already know about the trash scandal Jul 08 19:08
DaemonFCthen there was this gemJul 08 19:08
DaemonFChttp://www.wane.com/dpp/news/Local_WANE_Huntington_Mayor_remark_20090122_2114Jul 08 19:08
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schestowitzyeahJul 08 19:08
schestowitzyou showed this beforeJul 08 19:08
schestowitzbut where's the proof he was caught jerking off? Word of mouth?Jul 08 19:09
DaemonFCit was in the local paper several years agoJul 08 19:09
schestowitzBecause remember, getting caught doing something with oneself and not with another person and not in one's house is FAR FAR worse than public looting, corruption, etc. It's a PENIS scandal.Jul 08 19:09
DaemonFCpeople who saw it said they were offended, then voted for him anywayJul 08 19:09
DaemonFCI voted for his opponent, Jim Long :)Jul 08 19:09
schestowitzwell, guys can relateJul 08 19:10
schestowitzempathy for what 98% of men do. As for women, I don't know, there's a whole other realm of campaign intelligence going arond thatJul 08 19:10
schestowitzI reckon women would be more offended if he cheated than if he played with his thingJul 08 19:11
schestowitzanf rightly soJul 08 19:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Sampling of Commentary on Last Week’s USTR Announcement of #TPP Provision on Limitations and Exceptions to Copyright - http://bit.ly/NfVIL7Jul 08 19:11
schestowitzone is not respectful to the working place, but it offends no personJul 08 19:11
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schestowitzthen there's the famous GEorge Michael arrestJul 08 19:11
schestowitzsome people molest children, now that's a *real* issueJul 08 19:12
schestowitzNoy if someone at work plays on his office chair or office toilet bowl... but all this obsession over sex scandals is very politicised and pettyJul 08 19:12
DaemonFC!google peggy pointsJul 08 19:13
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Peggys Cove, Nova Scotia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peggys_Cove,_Nova_ScotiaJul 08 19:13
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Everyone loves Peggy! - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DGBcK47QEQ_IJul 08 19:13
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Peggy's Point Lighthouse Wallpaper Guide « New England ... | http://home.comcast.net/~debee2/Guides/PeggysPoint.htmlJul 08 19:13
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Peggy Sue Points — Real Estate Agent in the Sacramento area ... | http://www.ziprealty.com/real-estate-agents/a/156554/Peggy-Sue-PointsJul 08 19:13
DaemonFCdamn itJul 08 19:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Play your vinyl on an analogue laser player. No digitization. So fundamentally cool. http://www.elpj.com/experience/v... http://b1t.it/bJwIJul 08 19:14
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DaemonFCschestowitz: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdY8myCFrqkJul 08 19:14
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DaemonFChttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1v5tATx3SCcJul 08 19:15
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DaemonFCTOKENS!Jul 08 19:15
schestowitzpeg!Jul 08 19:24
schestowitz"Oh alllllll"Jul 08 19:24
DaemonFCschestowitz: Are they not allowed to have points programs in the UK?Jul 08 19:28
DaemonFCor do they just not do it?Jul 08 19:28
DaemonFCthey tend to be a pretty effective way to draw in customers and usually getting them to hang themselvesJul 08 19:28
DaemonFCthe speaker of the house is now joining in on the Mitt Romney hate fest from within his own partyJul 08 19:31
DaemonFCBoehner says that people will "probably not love Mitt Romney"Jul 08 19:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] Some pictures of what I've been working on... !librefm http://imgur.com/a/GWvWvJul 08 19:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Hildon - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia http://goo.gl/RWGKC #maemoJul 08 19:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] NY Couple On "Wanted" Poster For Filming Police http://is.gd/3abJK4 #landofthefreeJul 08 19:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] N950/Aegis-notes - maemo.org wiki http://goo.gl/xJIFw #maemoJul 08 19:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Despite digital growth, albums’ days look numbered http://is.gd/N8BhHXJul 08 19:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] huh, how does it "have" to be Free?Jul 08 20:06
DaemonFChttp://consumerist.com/2012/07/t-mobile-store-rampage-caught-on-video-for-everyone-to-enjoy.htmlJul 08 20:07
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Consumerist  » T-Mobile Store Rampage Caught On Video For Everyone To Enjoy .::. Size~: 142.26 KBJul 08 20:07
DaemonFCLOLJul 08 20:07
DaemonFChttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fikfhYznqhw&feature=youtu.beJul 08 20:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] DistroWatch: A package management reference card for Linux distributions and FreeBSD http://goo.gl/T7RV #tips #gnulinuxJul 08 20:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: DistroWatch.com: Put the fun back into computing. Use Linux, BSD. .::. Size~: 94.81 KBJul 08 20:14
schestowitzDaemonFC: watch the videoJul 08 20:15
schestowitztowrds the endJul 08 20:15
schestowitzYu can see the Aldi store where I goJul 08 20:15
schestowitzit's in Market StreetJul 08 20:15
DaemonFCheheJul 08 20:17
schestowitzno idea how this man got inJul 08 20:19
schestowitzmaybe an insider, disgruntledJul 08 20:19
schestowitzt-mobile sucks anywayJul 08 20:19
schestowitz!google manchester market street fire clothing store 2011Jul 08 20:20
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TechrightsBot-tr[4] - McKeesport Fire Fighters - About Us | http://www.mckeesportfirefighters.org/%3Fzone%3D/unionactive/view_page.cfm%26page%3DAbout20UsJul 08 20:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #OpenClipArt seems to be running from a single #Vic20 right now, dial up in a tar pit, will try laterJul 08 20:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @zotz if you distribute, must do so under GPL; if you don't, you have the 4 freedoms; in both cases, the sw is free for all its usersJul 08 20:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is sandersch from identi.ca with 98 dents!Jul 08 20:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Louis C.K. and the Decent Net, or How Louis won the Internet - http://bit.ly/MOui4L "The Internet is a calamity of norms."Jul 08 21:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Will ISPs Be Driven To Spy On Their Customers? http://t.co/o5CupznS http://b1t.it/bJysJul 08 21:29
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MinceRgeekingsJul 08 21:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @douglasawh Please help edit the Jamendo article so it doesn't get deleted due to notability issues: http://ur1.ca/9qwxhJul 08 21:47
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DaemonFChttp://www.jerrydoyle.com/video-should-these-people-have-nuclear-weapons_Jul 08 21:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] A note to journalists http://ur1.ca/9qwzr #Copyleft.nextJul 08 21:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] This one was particularly bad b/c it was retweeted & a couple of other Tpeople were talking to your T-doppelganger (poor guy!)Jul 08 22:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @jenssegers oh no you didn't #iSoc12Jul 08 22:02
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1775012Jul 08 22:04
TechrightsBot-tr@linux@joindiaspora.com: Arch #linux – not just for geeks? http://claudecat.wordpress.com/2012/07/05/arch-linux-not-just-for-geeks/Jul 08 22:04
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schestowitz"Here in Germany Arch is very much mainstream (in my peer group), so many linux users are looking for something different. Like Gentoo and all. But maybe its a meme… Cause Linux users needs to be elitist :D"Jul 08 22:05
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1779709Jul 08 22:21
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: If you don't oppose 'terrorism', then "you are with the terrorists".If you don't support censorship (aka 'vs child porn'), you are pedophileJul 08 22:21
schestowitz"Jul 08 22:21
schestowitzAll this is a common strategy:Jul 08 22:21
schestowitz"Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country." -- Goering at Nuremberg.Jul 08 22:21
schestowitzThis is why power of the media needs to be decentralised and localised. It is also why politicians create laws to enable cross-media ownership.Jul 08 22:21
schestowitz"Jul 08 22:21
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1779692Jul 08 22:22
schestowitz"Because the Gregorian calender only dates from the supposed birth of Christ."Jul 08 22:22
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: 2008 ![2008](http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lydc27a8oi1qdwmu1o1_500.jpg) #creationists #evolution #2008 #youtubeJul 08 22:22
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1779700Jul 08 22:23
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Google "will remove all terrorist videos from YouTube." http://www.examiner.com/article/google-jeopardizes-open-source-intelligence-collection-efforts-2 who decides what "terrorism" is? First they came for the terrorists...Jul 08 22:23
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schestowitz"Terrorism is anything that doesn't toe the party line."Jul 08 22:23
schestowitz"Terrorism is 'Think-Crime'."Jul 08 22:23
schestowitzMurder is crime. Terrorism, whatever it is, scares those in power and it may be effective at that.Jul 08 22:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] awwww :( @AP Ernest Borgnine, beefy screen star who won best-actor Oscar for lovesick butcher in 'Marty,' dies at 95 http://ur1.ca/9qx4iJul 08 22:24
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1779894Jul 08 22:26
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Jono Bacon looks like a member of #Anonymous even without putting a mask on, right?  ![photo: ](http://www.jonobacon.org/jonobacon4-small.jpg) compare to  ![photo: ](https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/532485_441980175823981_317465492_n.jpg) Britain's got talent!Jul 08 22:26
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DaemonFCWe are the 99%!Jul 08 22:28
DaemonFCMark says: "Uh oh!"Jul 08 22:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] just need to edit your profile page: Twitter is at the bottom of the left sidebarJul 08 22:29
schestowitzheheJul 08 22:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] I love it too! The photo is breathtaking! http://ur1.ca/9qvu0Jul 08 22:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @forteller I love everything about this! Anonymous hackers pick up litter in Tokyo protest http://ur1.ca/9qvu0Jul 08 22:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] When I did it (couple years ago) it wasn't instantaneousJul 08 22:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @jpope !Identiverse = A local LUG for everyone. :DJul 08 22:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] If you do it fast enough it doesn't show up on twitter @tekk :)Jul 08 22:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] running behind on @larryrusswurm's #humour blog: http://ur1.ca/9q6b0Jul 08 22:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk even if its quick? I've received email notifications of dents that never came to meJul 08 22:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Ohhhh @larryrusswurm: this one made me *howl* http://ur1.ca/9qqlx #humour #punnyJul 08 22:39
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1780219Jul 08 22:40
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: If you think you are free, you probably don't understand what freedom means. In all likelihood, your ISP logs you reading this, too.Jul 08 22:40
schestowitz"it helps, but once something is federated then it's totally beyond control :)"Jul 08 22:40
MinceRmurder is crime, but it's peanuts compared to copyright infringement :>Jul 08 22:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Trans Pacific Partnership protest marches on San Diego; Arrests made - http://bit.ly/L2sQWz people waking up to dangers of #TPPJul 08 22:51
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1779700Jul 08 23:02
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Google "will remove all terrorist videos from YouTube." http://www.examiner.com/article/google-jeopardizes-open-source-intelligence-collection-efforts-2 who decides what "terrorism" is? First they came for the terrorists...Jul 08 23:02
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schestowitz"Jul 08 23:02
schestowitzI think it's no more than a strategy for population control. It may have been employed initially to protect against any kickback from the Middle East where the U.S. is snatching other national assets - which didn't happen, but the internal effect within the U.S. hasn't had that effect. I've been there half a dozen times. The last time I got fingerprinted and was subjected to a retinal reading also. I'll never go there again.Jul 08 23:02
schestowitzThe only time I see American friends now is when they come to stay with me before the Southern Hemisphere ski season. They see their country from the objective outside...Jul 08 23:02
schestowitz"Jul 08 23:02
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DaemonFCExaminer.com is diveJul 08 23:10
DaemonFCit's just an over glorified blog for old women with sand up their cunts and too many cats, where they go to bitch about gay marriageJul 08 23:10
DaemonFC:)Jul 08 23:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] #w3ccommunity Call for Participation in Development Linked Data Community Group http://dlvr.it/1qSQJhJul 08 23:11
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1779939Jul 08 23:11
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: ![mexico](https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/481120_388282044553958_1866008880_n.jpg) #Mexico #Election #Democracy #Politics #failJul 08 23:11
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schestowitz"RIP democracy Mexico. You go to join your Northern cousins."Jul 08 23:11
schestowitzimagine that!Jul 08 23:11
schestowitzDaemonFC: yes, it's a BS siteJul 08 23:12
schestowitzglorified blog is a good descriptionJul 08 23:12
schestowitzfrom Seattle for the most partJul 08 23:12
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1779894Jul 08 23:12
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Jono Bacon looks like a member of #Anonymous even without putting a mask on, right?  ![photo: ](http://www.jonobacon.org/jonobacon4-small.jpg) compare to  ![photo: ](https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/532485_441980175823981_317465492_n.jpg) Britain's got talent!Jul 08 23:12
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schestowitz"All he needs is some rouge on those cheeks of his..."|Jul 08 23:12
schestowitz:-)Jul 08 23:12
DaemonFCGoogle News is posting Examiner stuff nowJul 08 23:12
schestowitz"...and a black cape."Jul 08 23:12
DaemonFCit continues to get worse and worse (Google News that is)Jul 08 23:13
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1779766Jul 08 23:13
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: When young man in Iraq opposes Pentagon policies, they label him "potential terrorist"; Westerner opposes said policies, label him nuisance.Jul 08 23:13
schestowitz"Nah. They're more egalitarian than that. We have progress, you know. Now they're both terrorists!"Jul 08 23:13
schestowitzDaemonFC: ZDNet tooJul 08 23:13
schestowitzblogsJul 08 23:13
schestowitzGoogle News is pollutedJul 08 23:13
DaemonFCI used to read ZDNet and CNet a lotJul 08 23:13
schestowitzbut the only way to collect from many sources without having a good list of RSS feedsJul 08 23:13
DaemonFCand use Download.comJul 08 23:13
DaemonFCand I even had a subscription to PC WorldJul 08 23:14
DaemonFC:)Jul 08 23:14
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1779700Jul 08 23:14
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Google "will remove all terrorist videos from YouTube." http://www.examiner.com/article/google-jeopardizes-open-source-intelligence-collection-efforts-2 who decides what "terrorism" is? First they came for the terrorists...Jul 08 23:14
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schestowitz"Jul 08 23:14
schestowitzThis post now marked as terrorism. Will be deleted at 21:30.Jul 08 23:14
schestowitzLove, Google.Jul 08 23:14
schestowitz"Jul 08 23:14
schestowitzDaemonFC: yeah, back in the 90sJul 08 23:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] blogged⇒ visual laurel: online visual Sun Tea recipe http://tmblr.co/ZMDc9xOyf6Sc #summer #tropicofCanadaJul 08 23:14
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DaemonFCnow the only things they put on their discs are a bunch of free and open source software (for the most part) and label it as "freeware"Jul 08 23:14
DaemonFClike, you couldn't just go somewhere and download Firefox and Gimp.....Jul 08 23:15
DaemonFCand you're supposed to pay like $3-4 an issue, or whatever it is now, for thatJul 08 23:15
schestowitzis there synergy for android?Jul 08 23:15
DaemonFCwhen you have broadband and can download each one of those in like 3 secondsJul 08 23:15
MinceRif not, x2vnc still works :>Jul 08 23:15
schestowitzoh, cool http://sourceforge.net/projects/synergyandroid/Jul 08 23:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Synergy Android Client | Free  software downloads at SourceForge.net .::. Size~: 41.11 KBJul 08 23:15
MinceRgnJul 08 23:15
DaemonFCoh well, it gets some exposure for alternatives to IE, Photoshop, and MS Office to people who otherwise wouldn't noticeJul 08 23:16
DaemonFCso I guess it serves its purposeJul 08 23:16
schestowitz"A port of the synergy client to the Android platform. See http://synergy-foss.org. Currently in the planning stage. New developers are very welcome to join in."Jul 08 23:16
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DaemonFCsome of those computer magazines release DVDs full of Live CDs with all the reasonably popular distributions on themJul 08 23:18
DaemonFCI can't imaging Microsoft liking that too muchJul 08 23:18
DaemonFC*imagineJul 08 23:19
DaemonFChttp://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/zimmerman-safe-house-central-florida-16736601Jul 08 23:20
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schestowitz"Jul 08 23:20
schestowitzRegisteredJul 08 23:20
schestowitz2010-10-20Jul 08 23:20
schestowitz"Jul 08 23:20
DaemonFCIf those black people show up to assault the house with iced tea and skittles, he's readyJul 08 23:20
DaemonFCI wouldn't be too mad if someone managed to kill this fuck (Zimmerman) and got away with itJul 08 23:21
DaemonFChe deserves more than the state of Florida is going to do with himJul 08 23:21
DaemonFCif the state of Florida doesn't do anything with him, hopefully the feds will find some way to convert it into a federal crimeJul 08 23:22
DaemonFCif there's enough outrage they willJul 08 23:23
DaemonFClike with those white police officers that beat up Rodney KingJul 08 23:23
Omegawhy would they? the government is full of racistsJul 08 23:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] It's one thing to contribute to #wikipedia, but the tipping point for many is unwillingness to spend life defending #subjective notabilityJul 08 23:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Tech firms fear loss of freedom to innovate - http://bit.ly/MTBo7v more good work on #TPP by @normnz (v @gnat)Jul 08 23:24
Omegawe have to deal with them ourselvesJul 08 23:24
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Tech firms fear trade deal loss of freedom - Technology - NZ Herald News .::. Size~: 93.21 KBJul 08 23:24
DaemonFChttp://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/world/54450440-68/car-indianapolis-girl-hot.html.cspJul 08 23:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Two children left in hot cars; 1 dies      | The Salt Lake Tribune .::. Size~: 83.86 KBJul 08 23:27
DaemonFCDaemonFC CollapseJul 08 23:27
DaemonFCOne was probably on drugs and browsing through a store for snooty rich women.Jul 08 23:27
DaemonFCThe other was *shock* a teenage couple that were probably too busy producing another one to notice they left the first one in the car.Jul 08 23:27
DaemonFCForget sterilization, there needs to be some kind of mental competency test before you're allowed to reproduce.Jul 08 23:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk my suspicion is "notability" is a way to give power to volunteer editors that costs #wikipedia nothing #superpowerJul 08 23:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @SaidElKhadraoui Bedankt!Jul 08 23:29
DaemonFChttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2170432/Three-month-old-girl-dies-toddler-critical-condition-left-cars-temperatures-reached-104F.htmlJul 08 23:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Three-month-old girl dies and toddler in critical condition after being left in cars as temperatures reached 104F  | Mail Online .::. Size~: 171.85 KBJul 08 23:29
DaemonFCoh yeah, looks like white trashJul 08 23:29
DaemonFCsmells like white trashJul 08 23:30
DaemonFCquacks like white trashJul 08 23:30
DaemonFChe looks like he's on drugs to meJul 08 23:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @forteller I've sent some flowers to one of the EU MEPs who voted against #ACTA, as a thanks! Join in and make this historic! http:// ...Jul 08 23:39
schestowitzmom loses childrenJul 08 23:46
schestowitzMurdoch the monster incites public against mom who lost childrenJul 08 23:46
schestowitzthank youy Mr. MurdochJul 08 23:46
schestowitz!google murdoch hack dead girlJul 08 23:46
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Murdoch tabloid accused of hacking dead girl's phone - FT.com | http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/0b5d52c4-a670-11e0-ae9c-00144feabdc0.htmlJul 08 23:46
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Daily Kos: Murdoch Paper Hacked Dead Girl's Phone, Destroyed ... | http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/07/05/991460/-Murdoch-Paper-Hacked-Dead-Girl-s-Phone-Destroyed-EvidenceJul 08 23:46
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Journalists hacked missing teen girl's phone, lawyer charges - CNN | http://articles.cnn.com/2011-07-05/world/uk.phonehacking_1_police-inquiry-journalists-british-police%3F_s%3DPM:WORLDJul 08 23:46
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Murdoch offers 3 million pounds to dead girl's kin over phone hacking | http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2011-09-21/uk/30184182_1_dowler-family-phone-hacking-milly-dowlerJul 08 23:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Philip Rosedale: The Media Is Wrong, SecondLife Didn’t Fail - http://bit.ly/MTEd8u big mistake trying to recreate scarcity in abundant worldJul 08 23:47
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Philip Rosedale: The Media Is Wrong, SecondLife Didn’t Fail | PandoDaily .::. Size~: 95.42 KBJul 08 23:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Just noticed !CC 3.0 licenses clarify they cover "a work performed by a variety or circus performer". Wonder what the background is there.Jul 08 23:56

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