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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1709639Jun 14 00:02
TechrightsBot-tr@virginiagill@joindiaspora.com: Oh, hai, do you want to be my fwend?   ![](http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5dee6C6BT1r3gb3zo1_250.gif)   #baby #monkey #bath #gif #cuteJun 14 00:02
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DaemonFCnext time my car insurance comes up for renewal I'm going to switchJun 14 00:06
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DaemonFCProgressive's base rate is not much different than Geico's but they offer a one time $50 account credit for signing a new six month policyJun 14 00:07
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formic_Isn't geico the best?Jun 14 00:08
formic_I've seen some commercialsJun 14 00:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @openOV try to read the terms, you will become mad :pJun 14 00:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] R» @dennisgut: #LibreOffice 3.6.0 1st beta is out http://ur1.ca/9hxme #freesoftware http://b1t.it/bB9yJun 14 00:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Hostility to Free Software http://ur1.ca/9hqfc freedom an intimidating concept to those who want total power over *others* #fsf #gnuJun 14 00:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] » @thistleweb: Politicians Grandstand About Leaks, But The Rest Of Us See The Prosecution Of Whistleblowers http://goo.gl/BEHY6 #persecutionJun 14 00:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Sometimes microblogging can be boring http://ur1.ca/9hxw8Jun 14 00:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] A prize for white-collar crime: tax breaks http://ur1.ca/9hxwi (UK Uncut makes high court challenge to Goldman Sachs tax deal)Jun 14 00:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: LibreOffice 3.6.0 enters beta testing - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 43.66 KBJun 14 00:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Silner (silner)'s status on Wednesday, 13-Jun-12 22:56:04 UTC - silner .::. Size~: 11.35 KBJun 14 00:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Technotaph : blog : Hostility to Free Software .::. Size~: 7.58 KBJun 14 00:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Politicians Grandstand About Leaks, But The Rest Of Us See The Prosecution Of Whistleblowers | Techdirt .::. Size~: 68.27 KBJun 14 00:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Georg C. F. Greve (greve)'s status on Wednesday, 13-Jun-12 19:37:51 UTC - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 10.82 KBJun 14 00:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: UK Uncut makes high court challenge to Goldman Sachs tax deal | UK news | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 90.94 KBJun 14 00:12
DaemonFCformic_: Progressive has a reputation of being where alcoholics go because they have a high risk insurance programJun 14 00:23
DaemonFCbut it's not the only car insurance they haveJun 14 00:23
DaemonFCyou can get comparable rates to their competitors if you aren't a drunk :DJun 14 00:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Linux and FOSS Are Not Selfish http://ur1.ca/9hx70 #linux #torvaldsJun 14 00:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: LXer: Linux and FOSS Are Not Selfish .::. Size~: 17.41 KBJun 14 00:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: Hup #Holland Hup!! Laat ons zien wat #Oranje in huis heeft! #euro2012 http://p.ost.im/p/evjP5hJun 14 01:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Newly leaked #TPP investment chapter reveals heavy corporate influence behind the secret negotiations https://eff.org/r.a8cYJun 14 01:23
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Eyes on Trade: Controversial Trade Pact Text Leaked, Shows U.S. Trade Officials Have Agreed to Terms That Undermine Obama Domestic Agenda .::. Size~: 52.65 KBJun 14 01:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @thomasbonte Sounds awesome! Have fun!Jun 14 01:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #GMO labeling victory! Measure accepted onto California ballot; now the real battle begins http://goo.gl/AJwVE spread the word!Jun 14 01:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] The Invisible Things Lab's blog: Windows support coming to Qubes! http://goo.gl/mrYwg #qubesos #gnulinux #securityJun 14 01:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: GMO labeling victory! Measure accepted onto California ballot; now the real battle begins .::. Size~: 75.16 KBJun 14 01:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Invisible Things Lab's blog: Windows support coming to Qubes! .::. Size~: 102.41 KBJun 14 01:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #OpenBSD forked to create #Bitrig - The H Open Source: News and Features http://goo.gl/g0MiYJun 14 02:13
TechrightsBot-trTitle: OpenBSD forked to create Bitrig - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 41.72 KBJun 14 02:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Intel CPUs affected by VM privilege escalation exploit - The H Open Source: News and Features http://goo.gl/LIVpc #securityJun 14 03:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] GNU Telephony http://goo.gl/LsOf #voip #p2p #audio #video #floss #sipJun 14 03:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @eff Newly leaked #TPP investment chapter reveals heavy corporate influence behind the secret negotiations https://eff.org/r.a8cYJun 14 03:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] [$] LWN.net Weekly Edition for June 14, 2012 http://ur1.ca/9hz0fJun 14 04:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] Proposed Group: HTML5 Mobile Test Community Group http://dlvr.it/1jgY27Jun 14 04:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] Proposed Group: HTML5 Mobile Test Community Group http://dlvr.it/1jgbbGJun 14 04:45
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Proposed Group: HTML5 Mobile Test Community Group | Community and Business Groups .::. Size~: 17.1 KBJun 14 04:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Goodmorning from Mogonga.Jun 14 05:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] "@mbjunior: "... Every 15 years, Brazilians forget what happened in the last 15 years..." (adapted from Ivan Lessa)" Kenyans too, sadlyJun 14 05:48
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nj3maHey everyone.Jun 14 06:32
MinceRhayJun 14 06:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Every kid's got a school bus to deliver them to school/home nowadays, even in this Mogonga backwater. Us guys had to walk.Jun 14 06:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] RT @rajitsingh If only all tech writers were as unbiased as this guy: Switching from iOS to !Android, 29 days later - http://pulse.me/s/ ...Jun 14 06:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] "@LupeFiasco: Food & Liquor 2: The Great American Rap Album PT. 1 out September 25, 2012. RT"Jun 14 06:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] The Google Plus app is a massive 27MB, will uninstall damned bloatwareJun 14 06:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Just got off the phone with @perpetuahsugar, seems to be in a good mood todayJun 14 06:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Now for operation #MapMogonga !osmJun 14 06:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] voo do @rms pra Campinas atrasou um pouco, mas já chegamos, jantamos, e agora ele dorme como um anjinho ;-)Jun 14 06:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] My G+ contacts show up in my phonebook. Including Barack Obama.Jun 14 06:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Wonder if geolocation on my posts works.Jun 14 06:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Nope, it doesn't.Jun 14 06:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] For the avoidance of doubt, retina displays are retarded.Jun 14 06:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] On #nairobilug on Freenode. Come ask your stupid Linux questions. Limited time offer. #ircJun 14 06:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Oftentimes my Diaspora* timeline feels like a cross between Reddit,9gag and Tumblr.Jun 14 06:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Just installed the tumblr app. Phone memory almost full. Time to unistall apps I don't need.Jun 14 06:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Uninstalling Opera Mobile just saved me 25MB.Jun 14 06:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] How many artists got tumblrs for websites? This one's mostly the rapper's Instagram feed.Jun 14 07:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Thinking of doing a morning movie w/ breakfast.Jun 14 07:03
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1710642Jun 14 07:36
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Intel CPUs affected by VM privilege escalation exploit http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Intel-CPUs-affected-by-VM-privilege-escalation-exploit-1616866.html a fix is available: avoid #Intel http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Intel_Crimes_and_OffencesJun 14 07:36
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schestowitz"Jun 14 07:36
schestowitzIt seems to be a Xen problem. See Peter Anvin's comments here:Jun 14 07:36
schestowitzhttps://plus.google.com/u/0/110579591067038943673/posts/Q8b9ck6Gs6iJun 14 07:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Denys Dmytriyenko - Google+ - Intel CPUs affected by VM privilege escalation exploit A… .::. Size~: 162.81 KBJun 14 07:36
schestowitz"Jun 14 07:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Anyone got a home on their pod for a !friendica refugee?Jun 14 07:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @evmcl Quote of the day: “I try to take one day at a time, but sometimes several days attack me at once.” — Jennifer YaneJun 14 08:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Skype jumps the shark: Seven alternative VoIP services http://ur1.ca/9i06w #linux #voipJun 14 08:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #OpenBSD forked to create Bitrig http://ur1.ca/9i077 #bsd #unixJun 14 08:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Skype jumps the shark: Seven alternative VoIP services | ZDNet .::. Size~: 206.13 KBJun 14 08:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle: OpenBSD forked to create Bitrig - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 41.72 KBJun 14 08:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] I started using LINUX because I didn't want to wait 20 minutes to find out the weather forecast http://ur1.ca/9i07d #linuxJun 14 08:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: I started using LINUX because I didn't want to wait 20 minutes to find out the weather forecast - Linux notes from DarkDuck .::. Size~: 114.74 KBJun 14 08:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Reviewed: Linux Ubuntu 12.04 — the pipe dream http://ur1.ca/9i07s #ubuntu #gnu #linuxJun 14 08:58
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Reviewed: Linux Ubuntu 12.04 — the pipe dream | Gearburn .::. Size~: 82.78 KBJun 14 08:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Nice --» RT @mailandguardian: EasyJet founder to launch the first pan-African low-cost no-frills airline http://t.co/sGrdVCxoJun 14 09:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle: EasyJet founder to launch African airline - Mail & Guardian Online .::. Size~: 32.52 KBJun 14 09:00
MinceRgeekingsJun 14 09:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Checking out @nathanmwangi's Flickr stream. Way cool.Jun 14 09:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Endspiel #ACTA http://ur1.ca/9i09f #euJun 14 09:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Endspiel ACTA  « Sköne Oke .::. Size~: 40.76 KBJun 14 09:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] #np @campmulla - Take It to the Floor. Cool track.Jun 14 09:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Someone's got CouchDB running on the Rasp Pi. Sleek.Jun 14 10:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] Interview: Huawei, Maxthon, Qihoo 360, UC Web, and the Chinese Browser Perspective http://dlvr.it/1jk4xCJun 14 10:25
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Interview: Huawei, Maxthon, Qihoo 360, UC Web, and the Chinese Browser Perspective - W3C Blog .::. Size~: 18.76 KBJun 14 10:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] Interview: Huawei, Maxthon, Qihoo 360, UC Web, and the Chinese Browser Perspective http://dlvr.it/1jk82kJun 14 10:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Interview: Huawei, Maxthon, Qihoo 360, UC Web, and the Chinese Browser Perspective - W3C Blog .::. Size~: 18.76 KBJun 14 10:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Me and my granma tight. She is so trill. Love her. Original ol' gee. lolJun 14 10:38
schestowitz"Obvious. Even a pillow can be used to kill some one."Jun 14 10:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Granma's turning 70 something. That's the new 30. Bibi twakupenda. Happy birthday!Jun 14 10:46
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1711524Jun 14 10:46
TechrightsBot-tr@linux@joindiaspora.com: Blame the user, not the tool  http://www.linux-magazine.com/Online/Blogs/Paw-Prints-Writings-of-the-maddog/Blame-the-user-not-the-tool #linux #gnuJun 14 10:46
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: Blame the user, not the tool - Linux Magazine Online .::. Size~: 41.01 KBJun 14 10:46
schestowitzPillox?Jun 14 10:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] RT @karsten #ACTA-Kommissar soll Steuern hinterzogen haben http://ur1.ca/9hqe3Jun 14 10:55
TechrightsBot-trTitle: ACTA, Karel de Gucht und die Steuern. › netzpolitik.org .::. Size~: 44.99 KBJun 14 10:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] And she still can't top up by herself. Says the writings on the scratchies are too small.Jun 14 11:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] They say eat healthy for a long life but granma's a huge of junk food. Chipo ndiyo zake. Hates bitter traditional veggies. lol.Jun 14 11:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Grew up round my granma till I was around 5/6. She taught how to read. Most valuable gift anyone ever gave meJun 14 11:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Gran's never been on a plane. Always said she'd to be on one someday. Should fix that soon.Jun 14 11:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Net just died on me.Jun 14 12:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] http://moshe.nairo.biz is down. Should be back before the weekend.Jun 14 12:00
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MinceRhttp://www.kogan.com/au/blog/new-internet-explorer-7-tax/Jun 14 12:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Gotta caption my photos on http://ur1.ca/8zzp7 better. #flickrJun 14 12:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Sharing to Twitter etc from the Flickr mobile app is a pain in the ass. Kinda get how Instagram kicked their asses. #failJun 14 12:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Funny the way people think inside little boxes. On seeing short informal emails,a friend once quipped "those aren't emails, those are smses"Jun 14 12:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] First place most Kenyans encounter emails is in a formal setting. It's unfathomable for them to send informal emails.Jun 14 12:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] PayPal Bans You For Life, Won't Tell You Why http://ping.fm/vSIm7Jun 14 12:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle: PayPal Bans You For Life, Won't Tell You Why - The Consumerist .::. Size~: 62.26 KBJun 14 12:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] "@mrsmwiti: Be warned. The smilling hotel staff asking , "So , how are you liking your stay ma'am ?" is not ready for a negative response."Jun 14 12:53
iophkhttps://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/15/technology/nokia-to-cut-10000-jobs-and-close-3-facilities.htmlJun 14 12:53
iophkKeep cutting until there's nothing left.Jun 14 12:53
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iophkhttp://www.engadget.com/2012/06/14/nokia-layoffs-vertu/Jun 14 12:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Nokia 'sharpens strategy' by dropping three executives, laying off 10,000 and dumping Vertu -- Engadget .::. Size~: 98.98 KBJun 14 12:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @MarietjeD66: Inviting you to comment on my discussion paper on #digitalfreedom in EU foreign policy htt http://p.ost.im/p/e7wEJTJun 14 12:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @eurohumph: #DNT spec does not seem set to determine factory setting of my new browser: GOOD! http://p.ost.im/p/evSVjUJun 14 12:55
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iophkAre the executives being replaced by more M$ moles or are they normal people?Jun 14 12:55
iophk"Susan Sheehan, an American and former Microsoft executive, was named senior vice president of communications."Jun 14 12:56
iophk"Weber, who like Elop is a Microsoft Corp. (MSFT) veteran"Jun 14 13:00
iophkhttp://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-06-14/nokia-s-elop-taps-microsoft-colleague-weber-to-run-sales.htmlJun 14 13:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Nokia’s Elop Taps Microsoft Colleague Weber to Run Sales - Bloomberg .::. Size~: 130.6 KBJun 14 13:00
iophk“We don’t have Nokia returning to profitability devices in the foreseeable future, not this year and not next,” Peterc said." http://wraltechwire.com/business/tech_wire/news/blogpost/11206037/Jun 14 13:03
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 'Trying to survive:' Nokia to slash 10,000 jobs :: Editor's Blog at WRAL Tech Wire .::. Size~: 27.62 KBJun 14 13:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @maxkaiser: #eleuven2012 Ales Pekarek introducing #Europeana Newspapers project that will aggregate OCR http://p.ost.im/p/evhyATJun 14 13:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @DirDigEng: RT @rufuspollock: RFC on draft specification of schema and access protocol (API) for #OpenDa http://p.ost.im/p/ev6bxWJun 14 13:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @AmSciForum: UNESCO: Policy Guidelines For The Development And Promotion Of #OpenAccess - #oa #oamonday http://p.ost.im/p/evkcHsJun 14 13:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #China forced abortion photo sparks outrage http://goo.gl/7LnxMJun 14 13:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] what companies have #Microsoft IMPROVED by partnering with or buying? I can't think of any...."improved" = "for that company, not Microsoft"Jun 14 13:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] other than short term brown envelopes of cash for the boardmembers, what incentives do companies have to deal with #Microsoft?Jun 14 13:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Who's got the worse record on civil liberties: Labour or the coalition? http://goo.gl/FtjLgJun 14 13:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Why women have no opinions http://goo.gl/g2NjgJun 14 13:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #ACTA: Last Crucial Step Before Final Vote - http://bit.ly/M6u1FS contact those MEPS - by phone, if possibleJun 14 13:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] UK Draft Communications Data Bill - http://bit.ly/LnCzXK read, digest, then get ready to fight (v @OpenRightsGroup) #CCDPJun 14 13:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] the #Sun starts it's campaign for womens rights & gender equality in a way only the Sun understand http://goo.gl/m6ih6Jun 14 13:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #CERN Launches Initiative to Facilitate Technology, IP Access - http://bit.ly/LnDebQ "free-of-royalties licenses": as it should beJun 14 13:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Weeeee! ♻ @telecomix: We're back in the microblogs! Ohai dears <3 #dataloveJun 14 13:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] "Expect hugs" is a great sound-alike to "expect us". Me gusta! ♻ @telecomix: We have comrades among you, expect hugs. #EuroDIGJun 14 13:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] THere's a "twitter" wall on #LOTE, but why no "StatusNet wall"? Why the centralised, closed, proprietary platform?..Jun 14 13:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Also, Microsoft Windows on the projection screen at #LOTE. While talking about "opengovernment". Why so closed. Why so fail.Jun 14 13:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] And yes, I am being a #PITA about closed-source technology, currently at #LOTE. ;)Jun 14 13:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Oooh, !FreeSoftware at #LOTE. WIN!Jun 14 13:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @thistleweb other than short term brown envelopes of cash for the boardmembers, what incentives do companies have to deal with #Micro ...Jun 14 14:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Oh, and is the #RSS bug fixed? I could get #lote to publish also on !identica and !statusnet if it is fixed.Jun 14 14:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] Juegazo! http://www.meneame.net/story/emancipacion-survival-horror-definitivo xDJun 14 14:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Huge variation in UK police spying powers raises concerns for future plans - http://bit.ly/K4NwMY report from couple of months ago; worryingJun 14 14:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @MarietjeD66 Encourage your MEP to support #opengov in Europe! http://ur1.ca/9i2oz #LOTE >>yes, please do...Jun 14 14:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[faither/@faither] Anyone else getting SSL certificate warnings on !identica for status.dg-sc.org and file3.status.net ? Using #ChoqokJun 14 14:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Bill & Melinda #GatesFoundation funding research into bracelets that track mental, emotional responses http://goo.gl/MyD0YJun 14 14:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Sehr schön: Anti-Holländer Witze posten die teilweise wirklich weder lustig noch freundlich sind und dann die Kommen... http://b1t.it/bCkmJun 14 14:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] A lot of opensourcing suddenly at #LOTE. Good, good! bit.ly/KE7PTd :)Jun 14 14:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Physical BitCoin at #lote. LOLWUT? :DJun 14 14:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] "BItcoin was created by an unknown programmer" - would you say, maybe, that he was... #Anonymous? #loteJun 14 14:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @alberto_cottica: @matjahu pulls a stunt by showing #LOTE a physical #bitcoin crypto currency unit. All hail hacker culture! :-)Jun 14 14:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] "@tcsmola: awaiting y'all feedback #poetry Let me go http://t.co/kqgx0QdQ"Jun 14 14:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] There are at least 4 @telecomix agents at #lote. Can you spot them all?Jun 14 14:23
gnufreexHi guys. I want to buy Android phone. Which manufacturers are not taxed by Microsoft?Jun 14 14:24
gnufreexAnd of course, it has to be hackable,Jun 14 14:24
gnufreex.Jun 14 14:25
DaemonFCI haven't upgraded my phone since 2009, still running Java ME :PJun 14 14:25
gnufreexI have a dumbphone for 3 years now... Jun 14 14:25
gnufreexI want something smarter :DJun 14 14:26
gnufreexBut I don't want Microsoft to get a penny out of it. Jun 14 14:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #FBI Hunt For Child Porn Thwarted By Tor - Slashdot http://goo.gl/AidK1 this is completely BS, another excuse for the #ipatriotJun 14 14:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] The Architecture of Open Source Applications http://goo.gl/AL2qr #floss #booksJun 14 14:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] I came here from #Euro2012-infested Poland and this is what you give me? A footbal tournament reference?.. I am dissapoint. ;) #loteJun 14 14:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Nah. The coverage is spotty. @monki @_ludens @telecomixJun 14 14:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] What @accessjames is saying, basically, is: "sharing is caring" !freesoftware !gnu #lote /cc @hackerspaceplJun 14 14:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The distractions of social media, 1673 style - http://bit.ly/L7oL7c nice little homomorphism you've got there... (v @mathewi)Jun 14 14:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] It would sound much better as "Please, women, *ask your questions*" ;) #loteJun 14 14:58
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iophkhttp://communities-dominate.blogs.com/brands/2012/06/brief-commentary-on-todays-nokia-bad-news-day.htmlJun 14 15:04
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DaemonFCComcast has a program to subsidize basic broadband for poor families, OK, I don't mind them doing that (my bill probably goes up a little, but OK)Jun 14 15:04
iophkI don't see why the large multitude of former Nokia employees, especially the management and engineers, don't just form their own new company.  Jun 14 15:05
DaemonFCwhat I don't support is them charging customers like me more to subsidize cheap PCs running Windows for those familiesJun 14 15:05
DaemonFCapparently Microsoft is "giving away free Windows licenses" or something (another fake charity since it doesn't really cost them anything)Jun 14 15:05
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DaemonFCteaching poor children to depend on software that's going to cost them a fucking fortune later is NOT "charity"Jun 14 15:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Cu laptopul la Castel http://ur1.ca/9i3ca #romania #gnu #linux #scoala #arad #informatica #fossJun 14 15:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Stop UK Government Snooping - http://bit.ly/HhF9jj pl. sign this epetition - it's not much, but it's a start #CCDPJun 14 15:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Microsoft has the midas touch; #Nokia now selling Vertu & cutting 10,000 employees - would Nokia have imploded faster with our without MS?Jun 14 15:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] How California's GM food referendum may change what America eats - http://bit.ly/L7q5H4 astonishing this is even an issue... #labellingJun 14 15:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] I beg to differ: he has more than enough to be proud ofJun 14 15:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Australia creates world's largest marine reserve network - http://bit.ly/MCTV2t a good start, but note criticisms at bottomJun 14 15:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] #Simpsons-versed, I am still waiting for some #lote participant to start with "My question is the following statement" #ComicBookGuyJun 14 15:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Reshared post from Dietrich Schmitz http://ur1.ca/9i3g9Jun 14 15:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Ruling Facebookistan - http://bit.ly/KEgTY8 good review of growing problem; fortunately, solution is obvious: full socialnw interoperabilityJun 14 15:20
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formic_who depends on microsoft anymoreJun 14 15:24
formic_they have nothing exclusive anymoreJun 14 15:24
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DaemonFCAndroid is only "free" of charge because it gets Google so much information on users (which has a monetary value) and as soon as the user starts using apps, they either get "free" adware that makes Google money or they pay something outright in cash, and Google gets moneyJun 14 15:25
DaemonFChiding the cost of the software by making it spyware is distastefulJun 14 15:25
DaemonFCof course, I type this from Andchat :)Jun 14 15:26
DaemonFChooray, spyware!Jun 14 15:26
DaemonFCthe text ads that appear in most "free" apps are not annoying and they don't consume an unreasonable amount of bandwidth, but they do record info about the user and Google gets thatJun 14 15:27
DaemonFCschestowitz: I tried out my old MSN account with Windows Live Messenger software for Windows in a VM, and also with Pidgin on LinuxJun 14 15:28
DaemonFCit seems that if one or both users use Microsoft's official software, they get censored when they post links that MS doesn't likeJun 14 15:29
DaemonFCbut if both of them are using non-Microsoft MSN client software then they don't get censoredJun 14 15:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RD @glynmoody The distractions of social media, 1673 style - http://bit.ly/L7oL7c nice little homomorphism you've got there... (v @mathewi)Jun 14 15:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Julian Huppert MP writes… Communications data: we have to get this right - http://bit.ly/Nl462f "unacceptable as it currently stands." #CCDPJun 14 15:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] There was chance #banksters would be punished: banks would die due to falling land prices they caused themselves. Bailouts stopped it. #loteJun 14 15:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Judge.me’s Plan to Build the Future of Legal Systems - http://bit.ly/MRBYBb intriguing #lawJun 14 15:30
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DaemonFCso it tells us that the censorship list is implemented in Windows Live Messenger itself, probably in a list that it updates from time to time and checks locallyJun 14 15:30
schestowitz[14:24] <gnufreex> Hi guys. I want to buy Android phone. Which manufacturers are not taxed by Microsoft?Jun 14 15:34
schestowitzwhat options have you looked at?Jun 14 15:34
schestowitzWhat is available?Jun 14 15:34
schestowitzSony is OK, but I don't like the companyJun 14 15:34
schestowitzMotorolaJun 14 15:34
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gnufreexI didn't look anything.Jun 14 15:34
schestowitzavoid LG, Samsung, HTC mainlyJun 14 15:35
schestowitzthose are the Big 3 that pay MSJun 14 15:35
gnufreexI fist want to make list of which ones to avoid. Jun 14 15:35
gnufreexI heard Motorla is unhackable. Jun 14 15:35
schestowitziophk: thanks for the NOK: linksJun 14 15:36
iophkNo worriesJun 14 15:36
gnufreexI heard Motorla has some DRM that destroys the phone if you try to hack it. Is that true? I heard that for Droid X, but are others like that? Jun 14 15:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The #MPAA's Secret Lobby Campaign on Bill C-11 and a Canadian SOPA - http://bit.ly/KEitJE staggering favouritism to US interests #caJun 14 15:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] A lot of the music I liked when I was 16 I don't like now, but Reggae Soul Jazz and Jimi Hendrix are common threads :)Jun 14 15:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] "I have rarely listened to discussions with such depth" - thanks. so how deep are the discussions in the #CouncilOfEurope, then? ;) #loteJun 14 15:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] looks like the UK govt have sold out #Assange, so he'll be on his way to the US via #Swedish air space under some "coincidenal" bullshitJun 14 15:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Is Windows Phone killing Nokia? http://ur1.ca/9i3iy #windows #microsoft #nokia #business #cellphone #mobileJun 14 15:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] UK Government's unprecedented mass surveillance plans going ahead - http://bit.ly/MtmTFi are those behind this fools or knaves? #CCDPJun 14 15:38
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schestowitzgnufreex: they changed itJun 14 15:38
schestowitzthe controversy was around July 2010Jun 14 15:39
schestowitzI remember cause I was in London (vacation) at the timeJun 14 15:39
gnufreexschestowitz Yeah, it is old news, but it stuck in my mind. I didn't watch the news carefully past couple of years.Jun 14 15:42
gnufreexGlad they changed it. So Motorola is fine then.Jun 14 15:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Please disregard the extraneous "to" in that sentenceJun 14 15:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #PNAC: The Dawn of a New Fascism - YouTube http://goo.gl/WcSvm #usa #micJun 14 15:43
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iophkSelling more furniture: https://secure.marketwatch.com/story/nokia-prepared-to-sell-patents-if-price-right-cfo-2012-06-14?reflink=MW_news_stmpJun 14 15:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Calling for a new openSUSE development model http://ur1.ca/9i3p6Jun 14 15:56
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DaemonFCjust for the hell of it, I put a splitter on my cable line in and ran a coaxial cable to my TV and told it to do a channel searchJun 14 16:00
DaemonFCso far it says it has found 28 digital channels, and I'm not being billed for any TV serviceJun 14 16:01
DaemonFCmake that 29Jun 14 16:01
DaemonFCI guess the only difference in subscribing to basic cable in this area is not whether you get it, but if you're paying for it or notJun 14 16:01
DaemonFC36Jun 14 16:03
DaemonFCapparently they just don't bother scrambling some of them so anyone that subscribes to just an internet account can get them inJun 14 16:03
DaemonFCI can see why they wouldn't advertise thatJun 14 16:04
iophk⁃In one of the interviews with Linus Torvalds the other day, an article mentioned that there were some 73,000 man years invested in the Linux kernel.  Is it possible that it is the single largest collaborative effort ever made?Jun 14 16:04
iophkhttp://www.technologyacademy.fi/blog/2012/06/13/press-release/Jun 14 16:04
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iophk* not an interview but to the point anyway.Jun 14 16:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Reshared post from Udo Vetter http://ur1.ca/9i3q4Jun 14 16:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @glynmoody UK Government's unprecedented mass surveillance plans going ahead - http://bit.ly/MtmTFi are those behind this fools or kn ...Jun 14 16:05
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DaemonFCI guess I still have my antenna for if/when they get rid of Clear QAM channelsJun 14 16:05
gnufreex<formic_> who depends on microsoft anymoreJun 14 16:13
gnufreex they have nothing exclusive anymoreJun 14 16:13
gnufreexSkypeJun 14 16:14
gnufreexThe Redmond bastards bought Skype. I can't replace it. Jun 14 16:14
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DaemonFCso the only difference between subscribing to limited basic cable in my area or not subscribing to it is that if you ask for it, they'll add $12.99 a month to your billJun 14 16:15
DaemonFCbut if you don't subscribe to it, you get it anywayJun 14 16:15
DaemonFCOH PLEASE ADD $12.99 TO MY BILLJun 14 16:16
DaemonFCOH PLEASE!!!Jun 14 16:16
DaemonFC:)Jun 14 16:16
DaemonFCheheJun 14 16:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #NSA chief endorses the #cloud for classified military cyber program - Nextgov http://goo.gl/bUrS5 great....more leaks :)Jun 14 16:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] I'm going to Advocate the SHIT out of !gnu !linux on my upcoming album "13.37: A Brave GNU World" :-pJun 14 16:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @glynmoody UK Government's unprecedented mass surveillance plans going ahead - http://bit.ly/MtmTFi are those behind this fools or kn ...Jun 14 16:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @glynmoody The #MPAA's Secret Lobby Campaign on Bill C-11 and a Canadian SOPA - http://bit.ly/KEitJE staggering favouritism to US int ...Jun 14 16:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] cryptogon » Greeks Withdraw $1 Billion a Day Ahead of Vote http://goo.gl/IUkSS #greece #collapse #preppers also http://goo.gl/OCmvYJun 14 16:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] OHAI, I'm Mike, let's do a Mike check, shall we?.. ;) #LOTEJun 14 16:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Good point #LOTE ♻ @_tomash: meritocracy failing:"Those who are able to climb up the ladder will find ways to pull it up after them"Jun 14 16:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Good morning !identiverse!tzagJun 14 16:30
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schestowitz"Obvious. Even a pillow can be used to kill some one."  https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1711524Jun 14 16:32
TechrightsBot-tr@linux@joindiaspora.com: Blame the user, not the tool  http://www.linux-magazine.com/Online/Blogs/Paw-Prints-Writings-of-the-maddog/Blame-the-user-not-the-tool #linux #gnuJun 14 16:32
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schestowitz[15:43] <gnufreex> Glad they changed it. So Motorola is fine then.Jun 14 16:32
schestowitzI almost bought their tablet in factJun 14 16:32
schestowitzI reserved the item but never came to pick it up cause I found something betterJun 14 16:32
DaemonFCI got an Archos G8 tabletJun 14 16:33
schestowitzI got G3Jun 14 16:33
DaemonFCI don't think they pay Microsoft anythingJun 14 16:34
schestowitzG8 exists?Jun 14 16:34
DaemonFCyeahJun 14 16:34
schestowitzthey don'tJun 14 16:34
schestowitzafaikJun 14 16:34
DaemonFCsince last yearJun 14 16:34
schestowitzarnovaJun 14 16:34
schestowitznot sure who the "nova" isJun 14 16:34
DaemonFCerrr G9 I meantJun 14 16:34
DaemonFCnot badJun 14 16:34
DaemonFCalso got a Logitech bluetooth keyboard for itJun 14 16:34
MinceRi have a gen8 :>Jun 14 16:34
DaemonFCI rigged up Opera to use "Fanboy's adblock list" with its content blockerJun 14 16:35
DaemonFCthat's quite the trick but no other browser seems to 1. Support Flash videos. and 2. Block ads at the same timeJun 14 16:35
DaemonFCso Opera Mobile it is :)Jun 14 16:35
DaemonFCthere is a Chrome for Android, but it sucksJun 14 16:36
DaemonFCthere's a "Browser" for Android, which sucks moreJun 14 16:36
DaemonFCand there's a Firefox for Android, which sucks even moreJun 14 16:36
DaemonFC:DJun 14 16:36
DaemonFCOpera Mobile is the only passable web browser on AndroidJun 14 16:36
schestowitzhttp://ur1.ca/9i3iyJun 14 16:37
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DaemonFCI also use Andchat for IRC, imo.im for instant messaging, K9 for emailJun 14 16:37
DaemonFCWinamp Pro for musicJun 14 16:37
DaemonFCimo.im has a really nice Android appJun 14 16:38
DaemonFCit's by far the best instant messenger app on AndroidJun 14 16:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !Canada ⇒Must read: The #MPAA's Secret Lobby Campaign on Bill C-11 and a Canadian #SOPA http://www.ur1.ca/9i40h !copyright !C11 !CDNpoliJun 14 16:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] It's not clear? On #Math it is... ♻ @_tomash: Retweet if you get it https://t.co/omcCrl2vJun 14 16:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] !Memes are sooo last century ♻ @alberto_cottica @rysiekpl left and right are soooo last century (this is going to be a meme at #LOTE)Jun 14 16:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Last day for the Humble Indie Bundle V http://www.ur1.ca/9i40v << I bought one as an early birthday gift ~ mine is #GNU/linux #freesoftwareJun 14 16:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[torproject/@torproject] New version of tails live system released, version 0.12, http://ur1.ca/9i41uJun 14 16:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Blame the user, not the tool http://goo.gl/GkfC9 #linux #gnuJun 14 16:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻@demsoc: "We still have the power, people are still interested, people tried to change things, and it led to positive reaction" !ACTA #LOTEJun 14 16:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: A big welcome to Europe for Aung Sung Sui Kyi. You are an inspiration - I am so happy fo http://p.ost.im/p/ev62mUJun 14 16:38
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Humble Indie Bundle V (pay what you want and help charity) .::. Size~: 158.63 KBJun 14 16:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Tails - Tails 0.12 is out .::. Size~: 6.96 KBJun 14 16:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Blame the user, not the tool - Linux Magazine Online .::. Size~: 41.01 KBJun 14 16:38
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formic_you paid for winamp?Jun 14 16:40
formic_lolzJun 14 16:40
formic_and pro operaJun 14 16:41
DaemonFCyeah, wellJun 14 16:41
DaemonFCOpera is the only browser maker that isn't halfassing Android supportJun 14 16:42
formic_chrome, default and firefox work perfectlyJun 14 16:44
formic_proprietary opera spiesJun 14 16:44
formic_on android its opera miniJun 14 16:49
formic_all traffic goes through opera's serverJun 14 16:49
schestowitz"interesting. is that the first time a bsd has been forked?" https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1711486Jun 14 16:49
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #OpenBSD forked to create Bitrig http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/OpenBSD-forked-to-create-Bitrig-1616954.html #bsd #unixJun 14 16:49
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schestowitzformic_: all?Jun 14 16:50
schestowitzmy phone uses itJun 14 16:50
schestowitzone of them anywayJun 14 16:50
MinceRis there no opera mobile for android, just opera mini?Jun 14 16:50
formic_the rendering engine runs on their serverJun 14 16:50
formic_http://www.opera.com/mobile/specs/Jun 14 16:50
formic_Opera Mini always uses Opera’s advanced server compression technology to compress web content before it gets to a device. The rendering engine is on Opera’s server.Jun 14 16:50
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1708597Jun 14 16:50
schestowitz"Hope this time it has no issues with my sound card."Jun 14 16:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Opera Mini & Opera Mobile browsers .::. Size~: 22.01 KBJun 14 16:50
TechrightsBot-tr@linux@joindiaspora.com: #Sabayon 9 Released http://ostatic.com/blog/sabayon-9-released #gnu #linuxJun 14 16:50
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formic_ahh they do have opera mobile tooJun 14 16:51
formic_permissionsJun 14 16:51
formic_arJun 14 16:51
formic_opera mobile wants an insane set of permissionsJun 14 16:51
formic_https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.opera.browser&feature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5vcGVyYS5icm93c2VyIl0.Jun 14 16:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Opera Mobile web browser - Android Apps on Google Play .::. Size~: 105.43 KBJun 14 16:51
formic_PHONE CALLSJun 14 16:52
formic_READ PHONE STATE AND IDENTITYJun 14 16:52
formic_Allows the app to access the phone features of the device. An app with this permission can determine the phone number and serial number of this phone, whether a call is active, the number that call is connected to and the like.Jun 14 16:52
formic_fuck that shit operaJun 14 16:52
MinceRfunJun 14 16:52
formic_you're not getting my phone call recordsJun 14 16:52
MinceReven google maps requires an insane set of permissions, iircJun 14 16:52
formic_READ SENSITIVE LOG DATAJun 14 16:52
formic_Allows the app to read from the system's various log files. This allows it to discover general information about what you are doing with the tablet, potentially including personal or private information. Allows the app to read from the system's various log files. This allows it to discover general information about what you are doing with the phone, potentially including personal or private information.Jun 14 16:52
formic_mincer - google software does, lolJun 14 16:53
formic_would you give opera access to /var/log on normal linux?Jun 14 16:53
formic_:)Jun 14 16:53
MinceRof course notJun 14 16:53
formic_look at firefoxJun 14 16:54
formic_https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.mozilla.firefox&feature=related_apps#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEwOSwib3JnLm1vemlsbGEuZmlyZWZveCJdJun 14 16:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Firefox - Android Apps on Google Play .::. Size~: 100.84 KBJun 14 16:54
formic_dolphin hdJun 14 16:54
formic_https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=mobi.mgeek.TunnyBrowser&feature=related_apps#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEwOSwibW9iaS5tZ2Vlay5UdW5ueUJyb3dzZXIiXQ..Jun 14 16:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Dolphin Browser® HD - Android Apps on Google Play .::. Size~: 107.16 KBJun 14 16:55
formic_chromeJun 14 16:55
formic_https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.android.chrome&feature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5hbmRyb2lkLmNocm9tZSJdJun 14 16:55
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Chrome Beta - Android Apps on Google Play .::. Size~: 108.93 KBJun 14 16:55
formic_those 3 dont need system logsJun 14 16:55
formic_or phone state infoJun 14 16:55
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formic_daemonfc shuts up because its obvious opera is spyware on androidJun 14 16:56
MinceR:>Jun 14 16:57
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schestowitzjust on android?Jun 14 17:00
schestowitzFB thought about buying ppera, it's claimed..Jun 14 17:00
formic_yeahJun 14 17:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] It's a balmy 19.2 °C I'm going to *gasp* forego morning #coffee and mow grass before it gets wretchedly hot (again) !Canada #climatechangeJun 14 17:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] The non-case against gay parenting http://goo.gl/IY8FHJun 14 17:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The non-case against gay parenting | Jill Filipovic | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 254.85 KBJun 14 17:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] I see #Identica has been migrated to a #Windows95 server - or so it seemsJun 14 17:08
formic_LolJun 14 17:09
formic_Win95Jun 14 17:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] So 3 new contacts on #Diaspora for me. Win. Let's break the Network Effect! Pleased to see you here, Alberto Cottica, A http://ur1.ca/9i46wJun 14 17:10
TechrightsBot-trTitle: So 3 new contacts... .::. Size~: 12.93 KBJun 14 17:10
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1708597"Hope this time it has no issues with my sound card."Jun 14 17:15
TechrightsBot-tr@linux@joindiaspora.com: #Sabayon 9 Released http://ostatic.com/blog/sabayon-9-released #gnu #linuxJun 14 17:15
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1711505Jun 14 17:16
TechrightsBot-tr@linux@joindiaspora.com: Reviewed: Linux Ubuntu 12.04 — the pipe dream http://gearburn.com/2012/06/reviewed-linux-ubuntu-12-04-the-pipe-dream/ #ubuntu #gnu #linuxJun 14 17:16
schestowitz"Jun 14 17:16
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schestowitz"If Linux wants to become a viable alternative to operating systems like OSX and Windows they need to fix the main problem, make the OS ready to go from turning it on."Jun 14 17:16
schestowitzLinux is not a "they". This is the true source of both its problems, and its potential. Linux is an "us".Jun 14 17:16
schestowitz"Jun 14 17:16
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1712681Jun 14 17:19
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: #Giant #Squid #Australia  ![t](https://s3.amazonaws.com/data.tumblr.com/tumblr_m57bgi4tiu1qf5y35o1_500.jpg) [Giant sea beast turns up dead off Australia in rare discovery](http://www.thedaily.com/page/2012/06/06/060612-news-giant-squid/)Jun 14 17:19
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schestowitz"I love those things. I think theyre one of those mysterious deadly giants that we ought to know more. Think about seeing one moving in the deep. GIves me the chills."Jun 14 17:19
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1712783 Jun 14 17:24
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Online Retailer Kogen Taxing IE7 Use http://osdir.com/Article11170.phtml "From the Good Troll dept."Jun 14 17:24
schestowitz"take that, M$ tax xD"Jun 14 17:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Online Retailer Kogen Taxing IE7 Use http://ur1.ca/9i48y "From the Good Troll dept."Jun 14 17:25
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Online Retailer Kogen Taxing IE7 Use :: OSDir.com :: Open Source, Linux News & Software .::. Size~: 23.35 KBJun 14 17:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] So, I'm at #LOTE conference by #EdgeRyders. Lots of great people. So great, in fact, that it makes me happy. Very happy http://ur1.ca/9i497Jun 14 17:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Kogan's publicity stunt worked - #MSBBC coverage: World's first 'tax' on Microsoft's Internet Explorer 7 http://ur1.ca/9i49dJun 14 17:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Is #Gnome targeting to OEMs with Initial Setup? http://ur1.ca/9i4a3Jun 14 17:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: So, I'm at #LOTE ... .::. Size~: 12.45 KBJun 14 17:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BBC News - World's first 'tax' on Microsoft's Internet Explorer 7 .::. Size~: 72.42 KBJun 14 17:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Is Gnome targeting to OEMs with Initial Setup?  |  woGue .::. Size~: 25.08 KBJun 14 17:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 100 Best Linux Games http://ur1.ca/9i4b4 #games #linuxJun 14 17:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laf0rge/@laf0rge] Well, your message seemed more like an attack on #iflossr than on #meeker. And I'm sure #iflossr accepts articles containing opposing viewsJun 14 17:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #AMD and #ARM Team Up - Slashdot http://goo.gl/m903U more #drm and #tpm? no thanks! do i have to buy chinese cpus? hello lemoteJun 14 17:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: AMD and ARM Team Up - Slashdot .::. Size~: 91.33 KBJun 14 17:41
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1712816Jun 14 17:49
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: 100 Best Linux Games http://www.thelists.org/100-best-linux-games.html #games #linuxJun 14 17:49
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schestowitz"It's probably mostly the same games, but I like this site because it has search filters for free, non-free, open source and closed source. http://www.penguspy.com"Jun 14 17:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] Document Object Model (DOM) Level 3 Events Specification Draft Published http://dlvr.it/1jr8JsJun 14 18:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Wieso nennt der in der ARD den Guttenberg immer Lothar? Und wo ist Guttis Brille? :-)Jun 14 18:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] Document Object Model (DOM) Level 3 Events Specification Draft Published http://dlvr.it/1jrBvRJun 14 18:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #DOJ Realizes That Comcast & Time Warner Are Trying To Prop Up Cable By Holding Back Hulu & Netflix http://goo.gl/WldoRJun 14 18:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: DOJ Realizes That Comcast & Time Warner Are Trying To Prop Up Cable By Holding Back Hulu & Netflix | Techdirt .::. Size~: 103.28 KBJun 14 18:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] Web Notifications Draft Published http://dlvr.it/1jrFYyJun 14 18:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Reshared post from Albert Einstein http://ur1.ca/9i4huJun 14 18:18
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Jan Wildeboer - Google+ .::. Size~: 130.61 KBJun 14 18:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Alien Resistance - Abductions in the Bible? - Every Knee Shall Bow http://goo.gl/iVdjM #xfiles #ufos ; interesting stuff!Jun 14 18:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Avoid Windows Malware: Bank on a Live CD http://ur1.ca/dgsl #bank #business #linux #security #gnu #windows #microsoftJun 14 18:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] David Icke Debunked http://goo.gl/hTMpa #tptb #nwo #gatekeepers?Jun 14 18:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Mainstream Notebook in China Runs GNU/Linux http://ur1.ca/9hf87 #gnu #linux #china #hardware #notebookJun 14 18:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Unity alternatives - the many desktops of #Ubuntu - The H Open Source http://goo.gl/kXESp just go #lubuntu :) or better #crunchbang #debianJun 14 18:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] I did not share your alarm on reading her figure of speech. Saying "a trap for the unwary" does not imply the trap is intentionally laid.Jun 14 18:41
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schestowitzDrPizza: http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2012/06/amd-to-add-arm-processors-to-boost-chip-security/Jun 14 18:42
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schestowitzgood to see you covering areas other than RedmondJun 14 18:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] But your alarm did make me read her article again to check!Jun 14 18:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Ist es nur Zufall das das Leustungsschutzrecht genau dann enden soll (nach 12 Monaten) wenn die öffentlich-rechtliche... http://b1t.it/bCqLJun 14 18:45
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Jan Wildeboer - Google+ - Ist es nur Zufall das das Leustungsschutzrecht genau dann… .::. Size~: 138.47 KBJun 14 18:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[torproject/@torproject] studying patterns in chinese internet censorship, http://ur1.ca/9i4vrJun 14 18:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ArchVortex: A Simple #ArchBang Installation Guide http://goo.gl/N3x4q #gnulinuxJun 14 18:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Reshared post from Ben Goodridge http://ur1.ca/9i4xeJun 14 18:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: New Study Finds Revealing Patterns in Chinese Internet Censorship - China Real Time Report - WSJ .::. Size~: 93.15 KBJun 14 18:53
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Jan Wildeboer - Google+ - Next Tuesday is #TakeiTuesday so start spreading the word.… .::. Size~: 131.19 KBJun 14 18:53
schestowitz[18:46] [Notice] -TRIdentica to #techrights- [schestowitz/@schestowitz] If You've Ever Sold a Used iPod, You May Have Violated Copyright Law http://ur1.ca/9i4sa helps show how outdated #copyright law isJun 14 18:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: National - Marvin Ammori - If You've Ever Sold a Used iPod, You May Have Violated Copyright Law - The Atlantic .::. Size~: 115.88 KBJun 14 18:56
schestowitzLost that bit while the power/PSU went down :/Jun 14 18:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Allen Stanford jailed for 110 years for $7bn ponzi http://goo.gl/Y7gtYJun 14 18:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BBC News - Allen Stanford jailed for 110 years for $7bn ponzi .::. Size~: 73.2 KBJun 14 18:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Biblical Perspective on #UFOs and Alien Abductions - Spiritual Deception http://goo.gl/5yOmA #xfilesJun 14 18:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #BBC Rogue Traders' Dan Penteado wanted by police http://goo.gl/TL27dJun 14 18:58
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formic_UPS!Jun 14 19:07
*DaemonFC files a lawsuit against KMartJun 14 19:09
DaemonFCthey always have dog food on sale, but usually not cat foodJun 14 19:10
DaemonFCand when cat food is on sale, it's more expensive than the dog food on saleJun 14 19:10
DaemonFC:(Jun 14 19:10
DaemonFCand you can't feed a cat dog food because it will cause the cat to go blind :(Jun 14 19:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fedora/@fedora] A reminder about @Fedora 15 End Of Life: http://2tu.us/5meoJun 14 19:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] TeK > #MAI vai gastar 4,8 milhões de euros a renovar licenças de software http://goo.gl/Jdju4 #pt ñ mencionam o nome dos fornecedores!Jun 14 19:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] So many things that are disturbing today seem to originate from an epidemic of unwarranted literalism.Jun 14 19:13
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Reminder: Fedora 15 end of life on 2012-06-26 .::. Size~: 3.01 KBJun 14 19:13
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formic_huhJun 14 19:18
formic_that crack you're smoking will make you go blindJun 14 19:18
formic_what is the difference between the crude beef that cats get vs the crude beef that dogs getJun 14 19:18
formic_in the wild, those animals eat the same stuffJun 14 19:20
formic_other animals and vegetationJun 14 19:20
formic_just give your cat some redbull for taurine if you feed it dog foodJun 14 19:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Referee in ITA v CRO seems to be unable to do his job.Jun 14 19:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Baking bread. Nomnomnom.Jun 14 19:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] Original: Google TV Gets New Legs with LG ARM TV bit.ly/NmhByHJun 14 19:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Only 4 hours left for HIB V. Last chance to get eight amazing games in the name of EFF and our rights online. http://ur1.ca/2l614Jun 14 19:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] iGOV | Organismos do #MAI com quase 5 milhões aprovados para aquisição de software Data: 2012-06-14 http://goo.gl/Ka1sA #pt #failJun 14 19:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Security updates for Thursday http://ur1.ca/9i582Jun 14 19:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Ordering an ATMega 1248p to upgrade my Sanguinololu. So I can run Marlin on my Huxley.Jun 14 19:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] "Die CDU/CSU lehnt auch weiterhin jede Ausweitung der Patentierungspraxis im Softwarebereich ab." - http://bit.ly/MtNHoR (v @FFII) niceJun 14 19:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] mainstream politicians are experts at defending the indefensableJun 14 19:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Diskussionspapier der CDU/CSU-Bundestagsfraktion zum Urheberrecht in der digitalen Gesellschaft  | Blogfraktion.de .::. Size~: 83.66 KBJun 14 19:36
DaemonFCformic_: cats are taurine deficientJun 14 19:44
DaemonFCcat food is fortified with it, dog food isn'tJun 14 19:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Research in Learning Technology, an #openaccess journal under #CC BY, is seeking 2 new Editors to join its team: http://bit.ly/LBtLfC #jobsJun 14 19:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Call for 2 new Editors for Research in Learning Technology | Association for Learning Technology .::. Size~: 19.73 KBJun 14 19:46
formic_Red Bull contains caffeine, taurine, glucuronolactone, B-group vitamins, sucrose, and glucose.[20] Red Bull Sugarfree is like Red Bull Energy Drink, but with the artificial sweeteners acesulfame K and aspartame instead of sucrose and glucose[21].Jun 14 19:47
formic_http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_BullJun 14 19:47
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formic_this is science daemonfcJun 14 19:48
formic_there is your taurineJun 14 19:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] I get the feeling #Ireland will be the 1st team home #ec2012Jun 14 19:48
DaemonFCI don't want a caffeinated catJun 14 19:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] New Zealand trade minister assures parliament it won't sign #TPP as long as it compromises state sovereignty https://eff.org/r.3acZJun 14 19:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Torres of old puts #Ireland on the back foot early on #ec2012Jun 14 19:51
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formic_caffeine = longer lifeJun 14 19:52
formic_scienceJun 14 19:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Mehmet Scholl füllt grad die Floskelkasse.Jun 14 19:53
formic_daemonfc - dont worry, the opera browser knows who you've called and has access to your system logsJun 14 19:53
DaemonFCso does AT&T, so I've already lostJun 14 19:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Ireland may as well go for broke, they're likely screwed either way #ec2012 you just never knowJun 14 19:55
formic_opera will just sell that call data to some marketing companyJun 14 19:57
formic_no laws to stop themJun 14 19:57
formic_juristictionJun 14 19:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Troubling Internet Regulations Proposed for WCIT - http://bit.ly/LoOq80 whoa, this looks awfulJun 14 19:58
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MinceRDaemonFC: perhaps cat food is more expensive because of the taurine, then?Jun 14 19:59
MinceRalso, cats deserve better than dog food.Jun 14 20:00
formic_personal info is worth money to a company that needs the law to boost its user countJun 14 20:00
DrPizzaschestowitz: I cover processor stuff whenever there's something interesting going onJun 14 20:01
XFaCEDrPizza: And for the rest of the time, you lie dormant in this channel...Jun 14 20:04
XFaCEDrPizza: you are Peter Bright?Jun 14 20:05
DrPizzaofcourseJun 14 20:05
XFaCEYou say that like I should have known that as common knowledgeJun 14 20:06
XFaCE"I am Dr. Offlestein Bangveroich! Of Course!:Jun 14 20:07
formic_you should haveJun 14 20:10
formic_come on "DrPizza" is so obviousJun 14 20:10
DrPizzayou think the identical twitter handles, which show at the bottom of every post I have on ars, are just a coincidence?Jun 14 20:10
formic_Pizza as in Pizza Hut, which sells PAN Pizza, and Peter which is the first name of Peter PanJun 14 20:10
formic_jeezJun 14 20:10
XFaCEDrPizza: Oh that's whyJun 14 20:10
XFaCEI don't read your articles on Ars :)Jun 14 20:11
DrPizzaXFaCE: schestowitz linked oneJun 14 20:11
Diablo-D3hehJun 14 20:11
XFaCEDrPizza: Yeah, the first one I've ever seenJun 14 20:11
Diablo-D3bitcoin is so wonderfulJun 14 20:11
formic_Diablo-D3: did nenolod threaten to farm bitcoins on their irc?Jun 14 20:11
Diablo-D3formic_: wait, what?Jun 14 20:12
Diablo-D3how do you farm bitcoins over irc?Jun 14 20:12
formic_no he threatened over ircJun 14 20:12
formic_said he was gonna run some farming serversJun 14 20:12
Diablo-D3oh, you mean did he mine about 20k btc?Jun 14 20:12
Diablo-D3yes he didJun 14 20:12
Diablo-D3and he already sold themJun 14 20:12
MinceRDr. Offlestein Bangveroich, we meet again!Jun 14 20:13
XFaCEDrPizza: ah yeah, the twitter thingJun 14 20:13
MinceR211047 < formic_> Pizza as in Pizza Hut, which sells PAN Pizza, and Peter which is the first name of Peter PanJun 14 20:13
XFaCEDrPizza: You look like you should be a singer in a 60s bandJun 14 20:13
MinceRlolJun 14 20:13
Diablo-D3formic_: I, otoh, am doing this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=77469Jun 14 20:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @glynmoody: Troubling Internet Regulations Proposed for WCIT - http://bit.ly/LoOq80 whoa, this looks awfulJun 14 20:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] MT @EFF #NZ trade minister assures parliament it won't sign #TPP if compromises state sovereignty https://eff.org/r.3acZ >>more problemsJun 14 20:15
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formic_lol Diablo-D3Jun 14 20:18
formic_you're making money out of thin air?Jun 14 20:18
Diablo-D3money, green energy, and world peas out of thin airsJun 14 20:18
formic_then you diss Ulrich Drepper for working at Goldman SachsJun 14 20:18
Diablo-D3the peas are the hardest part, I cant seem to acquire enough butterJun 14 20:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RD @thistleweb @glynmoody: Troubling Internet Regulations Proposed for WCIT - http://bit.ly/LoOq80 whoa, this looks awfulJun 14 20:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RD @glynmoody MT @EFF #NZ trade minister assures parliament it won't sign #TPP if compromises state sovereignty https://eff.org/r.3acZJun 14 20:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Funnyjunk's Lawyer, Charles Carreon, Continues To Lash Out: Accuses Matt Inman Of 'Instigating Security Attacks' http://goo.gl/RDpA3Jun 14 20:20
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DaemonFCThe cable companies are arguing that the government should let them encrypt channels that customers could get over the air because having those channels encourages "content theft"Jun 14 20:21
DaemonFCright....Jun 14 20:21
DaemonFCif you run your own hookup to a cable feed to get the channels available over the air, you've committed a felonyJun 14 20:22
DaemonFCand the amount of labor involved is significantJun 14 20:22
DaemonFCand even if the cable company doesn't get the police after you, they will probably at least rip it down when they notice what you didJun 14 20:23
DaemonFCfor roughly the same amount of labor, you can legally hook up an antenna and legally get those channels over the airJun 14 20:23
DaemonFCthere's no good argument for them to want to encrypt channels in their limited basic package other than wanting to get cable boxes into more peoples homes and charging them equipment rental fees and HD fees Jun 14 20:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Does the version of !pino in !Ubuntu 12.04 work properly with !identica?Jun 14 20:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] How Sweden Handed Its Official Twitter Account Over To A Troll http://goo.gl/iFJRP Ars didn't do any checks for employing #trolls eitherJun 14 20:25
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DaemonFCI don't know of anyone who would commit a felony and go through that much work to get a $10 cable TV plan for free that was coming in over the air to begin withJun 14 20:25
DaemonFCit's not about that, it's about turning the $10 plan into a $20 plan with equipment and service fees (bill cramming)Jun 14 20:25
DaemonFCI think it would be absurd to pay them $10 a month for broadcast channels unless you just live in such a bad reception area that you can't possibly pick them up over the air for freeJun 14 20:26
ThistleWebbill cramming sounds like a sexual practice performed by deviant ducksJun 14 20:26
MinceR:DJun 14 20:27
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MinceRcould be performed by humans, using banknotesJun 14 20:27
DaemonFCThistleWeb: "cramming" is the term for utility companies that put in all kinds of fees they never told you about to get the price up from what they said you'd be payingJun 14 20:28
DaemonFCcable and phone companies are well known for thatJun 14 20:28
ThistleWebtell that to the ducks, they could use an excuse to try in courtJun 14 20:28
DaemonFClike, you sign up for the $20 Expanded Basic cable plan and you get your bill and there's a $5 HD fee, and a $5 box rental fee and $8 for having a DVR (which was part of the fucking box they already charged you for!)Jun 14 20:29
DaemonFCand then a franchise feeJun 14 20:29
DaemonFC:)Jun 14 20:29
ThistleWebI knowJun 14 20:29
DaemonFCand the $20 plan is now the $40 planJun 14 20:29
ThistleWebwhere's the profit in being upfront about charges? that's not the capiotalist wayJun 14 20:30
DaemonFCthey don't talk about all the fees they slip in along the wayJun 14 20:30
DaemonFCall they want to talk about is the pre-tax amount of the programming package, ONLYJun 14 20:30
DaemonFCand most of the time that's half off the real price and you only get it for a few monthsJun 14 20:31
DaemonFCand now the $20 plan is $60Jun 14 20:31
DaemonFC:)Jun 14 20:31
DaemonFCand the government lets them get away with itJun 14 20:31
MinceRfair trade would be capitalist as well, possibly more soJun 14 20:31
MinceRbut it's not in style anymoreJun 14 20:31
DaemonFCso 3 months in you're paying triple the amount you could have reasonably expected toJun 14 20:32
DaemonFCthat's why it's best to avoid pay TVJun 14 20:32
DaemonFCthey're like drug dealersJun 14 20:32
DaemonFCthey come at you with an impossibly cheap deal and then once you can't make a clean break from them, they show you what you really have to pay themJun 14 20:33
MinceRwhat if you ask them up front?Jun 14 20:33
DaemonFCMinceR: It's one of those things where they get most people who have never subscribed to pay TV beforeJun 14 20:34
DaemonFCso it hits young adults a lot harder than any other age groupJun 14 20:34
DaemonFCby the time you're onto them it's typically because they already burned you onceJun 14 20:34
MinceR:>Jun 14 20:35
DaemonFCyou know "fool me once, I can't get fooled again!" ;)Jun 14 20:35
MinceR:)Jun 14 20:35
MinceRwasn't that "fool me twice... you can't fool me twice!"?Jun 14 20:35
_Goblinmaybe not being weak enough to be sold the waste of money products in the first place would be better....Jun 14 20:36
_Goblinbut then thats the modern worldJun 14 20:36
_Goblinits always someone elses fault....."Hey I'm in debt because of high prices"Jun 14 20:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[torproject/@torproject] RT @silner RD @thistleweb @glynmoody: Troubling Internet Regulations Proposed for WCIT - http://bit.ly/LoOq80 whoa, this looks awfulJun 14 20:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] British Council, MS to Build Digital Hubs in 80 African schools - http://bit.ly/LnX1cD why help lock into MS upgrade fees? (v @whiteafrican)Jun 14 20:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Oh, I forgot Ubuntu doesn't ship it, does it — needs PPA — I can't be bothered with all thatJun 14 20:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @BBCTech Apple must face tracking lawsuit http://t.co/KTLvMVOFJun 14 20:36
_Goblinmoral would be think first act later......maybe?Jun 14 20:36
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DaemonFCit is deceptive marketingJun 14 20:36
_GoblinnoJun 14 20:36
DaemonFCand it should be illegalJun 14 20:36
_Goblinstupid peopleJun 14 20:37
_Goblinits like those Nigerian scamsJun 14 20:37
DaemonFCin all of their advertising, they should be forced to itemize what they actually charge youJun 14 20:37
DaemonFCand what those packages cost when the promotional deal endsJun 14 20:37
ThistleWebthey don't hide the charges, they just intentionally tuck them away in the small print in legalese so it's impossible to work them out without a degree in advanced mathsJun 14 20:37
_Goblinand then thats the warning right thereJun 14 20:37
ThistleWebthey do enough to cover thrie bahookies legally while knowing it's decieving folksJun 14 20:37
_Goblina person of sound mind and body would think "hang on...that sounds too good to be true"Jun 14 20:37
_Goblinwould you fall for it Gordon?Jun 14 20:38
_GoblinI would doubt it.Jun 14 20:38
_GoblinI wouldn't....Jun 14 20:38
_GoblinI'm sure the majority here wouldn't.Jun 14 20:39
_Goblinbecause.....we think first...Jun 14 20:39
ThistleWebany offer is limited, I always check the "after offer" price, specially if it;s a recurring priceJun 14 20:39
_Goblinif someone can't be left alone to make an adult decision and question a "good deal" I have little sympathy...Jun 14 20:39
DaemonFCI have a feeling that if they had to plainly state "Each HD receiver costs this much"...."Each HD DVR costs this much"....."After 12 months, this package will cost this much",, and "Here's what we charge you for having HD channels", then most people would never sign up in the first placeJun 14 20:39
ThistleWebif it's a "pay once and walk away" it's an easier callJun 14 20:40
_GoblinDaemonFC, the fact you have thought about this means that deceptive or not, you would not fall for any "good deal"Jun 14 20:40
formic_DaemonFC & _Goblin & ThistleWeb - who else is going to pay for all the tv shows i download?Jun 14 20:40
_GoblinlolJun 14 20:40
_Goblintrue.....Jun 14 20:40
formic_it balances outJun 14 20:40
ThistleWebany contracts I expect the sales staff to get targets and bonuses for adding extras like insurance, warranties etcJun 14 20:40
_Goblinformic_, is there anything worth downloading anyway>Jun 14 20:41
_Goblin?Jun 14 20:41
formic__Goblin: the officeJun 14 20:41
_Goblinoh...Jun 14 20:41
ThistleWeboften they'll do it without asking you.....or even if they ask, and you say no, they add it anywayJun 14 20:41
_Goblinnever watched itJun 14 20:41
formic__Goblin: law & order, dr whoJun 14 20:41
_Goblinnever willJun 14 20:41
ThistleWebthe office is brilliant....the uk one anywayJun 14 20:41
formic__Goblin: star trek (who wants to pay $100 a season?)Jun 14 20:41
_GoblinDr Who.......but I can watch that "live" on the BBCJun 14 20:41
formic__Goblin: with commercialsJun 14 20:41
formic_:)Jun 14 20:41
_Goblinformic_, you should change that to "Do did pay"...Jun 14 20:41
_GoblinI did...Jun 14 20:41
_Goblinbought the dvd box setsJun 14 20:42
ThistleWeb_Goblin: if you forget, dr who is a time lord, he will return to a live slot at a time that suits youJun 14 20:42
formic_of star trek?Jun 14 20:42
_GoblinwellJun 14 20:42
_GoblinB5Jun 14 20:42
DaemonFCracking up $28 a month in fees for having one descrambler box with DVR capabilities that can tune in HD channels is a little extremeJun 14 20:42
_Goblinsame thingJun 14 20:42
formic_no no noJun 14 20:42
formic_babylon 5 is NOT the same as star trekJun 14 20:42
DaemonFCand that's before we talk about any programming or the taxes on top of whatever it comes out toJun 14 20:42
formic_not even closeJun 14 20:42
ThistleWebthe thing with large companies, is to expect to be scammedJun 14 20:42
formic_B5 doesn't have QuarkJun 14 20:42
formic_or WarfJun 14 20:42
_Goblinformic_, the ethos of paying for a season was valid.Jun 14 20:42
_Goblin:)Jun 14 20:42
DaemonFCor Odo!Jun 14 20:43
formic_or the hot milf Dr CrusherJun 14 20:43
DaemonFCOdo!!!!Jun 14 20:43
_GoblinAnd DS9 doesn't have the Shadows or VorlonJun 14 20:43
formic_or Seven of 9Jun 14 20:43
_Goblintrue.....Jun 14 20:43
formic_no T'Pol...Jun 14 20:44
_Goblinalthough in real life she's a bit mankyJun 14 20:44
_Goblinformic_, but thats EnterpriseJun 14 20:44
formic_yeah enterprise is awesomeJun 14 20:44
formic_no Teal'c...Jun 14 20:44
formic_no Samantha CarterJun 14 20:44
_Goblindoesn't the intro music remind you of a Gillette razor advertJun 14 20:44
_Goblin?Jun 14 20:44
DaemonFCO'Neil or GTFOJun 14 20:44
DaemonFC:)Jun 14 20:44
formic_O'Neil won every fire fight using a box of paperclips, kleenex and a tennis ball bombJun 14 20:45
MinceRthat's O'NeillJun 14 20:45
MinceRhe said "two L-s" several times :>Jun 14 20:45
DaemonFCyeah, the other guy has NO sense of humorJun 14 20:46
DaemonFC:)Jun 14 20:46
MinceR:>Jun 14 20:46
XFaCEMinceR: You are correct Daniel JacksonJun 14 20:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] The Ubuntu App Showdown is live with System76 laptops and Nokia N9 phones up for grabs - see http://is.gd/tRCGFq for details! #ubuntuJun 14 20:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Getting Back to a Pure #LXDE on #Ubuntu http://goo.gl/dzZWr #lowspecbox #gnulinux #tipsJun 14 20:48
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formic_I remember the episode where O'Neill made Dr Jackson recrystalize DilithiumJun 14 20:48
MinceRisn't Dilithium a Star Trek thing?Jun 14 20:48
_Goblinyeah....Jun 14 20:49
_GoblincrystalsJun 14 20:49
formic_i think thats when Dr Jackson died and was replaced with Jonas Quinn who had the USS VoyagerJun 14 20:49
MinceRlolJun 14 20:49
formic_i remember it clearly, the taelon's gave humans some tech to fight the replicatorsJun 14 20:50
formic_but bullets and swords worked better because they were projectile basedJun 14 20:50
formic_not energy weaponsJun 14 20:50
MinceRso that humans could avoid causing shield-lasgun explosions?Jun 14 20:50
formic_according to Tardis in that episodeJun 14 20:51
XFaCEMinceR: formic_ 's trollingJun 14 20:51
MinceRi'm just playing along nowJun 14 20:51
formic_I think that was when Liam Kincaid found the original nostrodamus book and foiled the GuaJun 14 20:51
formic_not sureJun 14 20:52
XFaCEAnd then monolithscameJun 14 20:52
formic_thats 2001 a space oddessyJun 14 20:52
_GoblinyepJun 14 20:52
formic_not star trekJun 14 20:52
_Goblin2x4x6Jun 14 20:52
_Goblinor somethingJun 14 20:52
XFaCE25 or 6 to 4Jun 14 20:52
_Goblinever read 3001?Jun 14 20:53
XFaCEnopeJun 14 20:53
XFaCEI need toJun 14 20:53
_Goblinit explains what the monolith wasJun 14 20:53
formic_i want the audiobook of 3001Jun 14 20:53
XFaCEHowever, I did see 2010Jun 14 20:53
_Goblinrather dull reallyJun 14 20:53
formic_2010 was awesomeJun 14 20:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] US Continues To Try To Block Megaupload From Using Its Lawyers, Pretends It Has Jurisdiction Over The World - http://bit.ly/LoZdzf derangedJun 14 20:53
formic_it had the dude from jawsJun 14 20:53
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XFaCEthe year or the movie?Jun 14 20:53
XFaCElolJun 14 20:53
formic_and evil communistsJun 14 20:53
XFaCEyeahJun 14 20:53
_GoblinI'll tell you what wasn't goodJun 14 20:53
_GoblinPrometheusJun 14 20:53
formic_Avengers!Jun 14 20:53
XFaCE_Goblin: Haven't seen itJun 14 20:53
XFaCEStar Trek XIJun 14 20:53
MinceRi haven't seen Prometheus yetJun 14 20:54
formic_11?Jun 14 20:54
formic_noJun 14 20:54
XFaCEformic_: yeahJun 14 20:54
formic_??Jun 14 20:54
XFaCEabsolutely unremarkable generic nothingJun 14 20:54
_GoblinIf the Alien movie has the slogan "In space nobody can hear you scream"...then Prometheus should have "At the cinema, nobody gives you your money back for a shite film"Jun 14 20:54
formic_the new one with brad pitt as kirk wasn't 11Jun 14 20:54
XFaCEhaha\Jun 14 20:54
formic_the new one actually caused the other movies to 'not exist'Jun 14 20:55
formic_so its Star Trek 0Jun 14 20:55
formic_or just 'Star Trek'Jun 14 20:55
formic_0 is impliedJun 14 20:55
_Goblinit was godawful the new StartrekJun 14 20:55
_GoblinLike Beverly Hills 90210 on the enterprise...Jun 14 20:55
formic_in case anyone was wondering I made references to "Earth Final Conflict", "First Wave", "Dr Who", "Star Trek" and "SG1"Jun 14 20:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] UK unveils surveillance plan on par with authoritarian regimes: will monitor all email, text, and call activity https://eff.org/r.5adaJun 14 20:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] RT @webmink So many things that are disturbing today seem to originate from an epidemic of unwarranted literalism.Jun 14 20:56
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ThistleWebafter the infamous galaxy wide ice cream van wars it became "in space noone can sell ice cream" - scorched earth on a HUGE scaleJun 14 20:57
MinceRBeverly Hills 90d20Jun 14 20:58
_Goblin(the next generation)Jun 14 20:58
DaemonFCwhat about Andromeda?Jun 14 20:58
DaemonFC:)Jun 14 20:58
MinceRi liked the new Star TrekJun 14 20:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] This is getting !disturbing. @bkuhn I will donate to #Conservancy if you agree to switch all current #svn use to #darcsJun 14 20:58
MinceRdidn't see any of Andromeda closelyJun 14 20:58
DaemonFCit's all on NetflixJun 14 20:58
DaemonFCor you could pirate it I guessJun 14 20:58
MinceRyarr!Jun 14 20:58
MinceRi'd just need to pirate some free time to watch themJun 14 20:59
formic_Andromeda is interesting, I loved the episode where hercules met XenaJun 14 20:59
MinceR:DJun 14 20:59
DaemonFCas far as I am concerned, the laws in the US that say you can't tell people how to pirate something are all invalidJun 14 20:59
formic_Xena is a milfJun 14 20:59
DaemonFCConstitutional law says I have freedom of speechJun 14 20:59
_GoblinYou know, I could quite happily throw away the damn tv....its all rubbishJun 14 20:59
DaemonFCdon't throw it away, just hook up an antenna to itJun 14 21:00
_Goblinits only the PS3 that I would use it for..Jun 14 21:00
DaemonFCyou already have the TV, might as well get SOME use out of itJun 14 21:00
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_GoblinI never watch the thingJun 14 21:00
_GoblinI read mostlyJun 14 21:00
DaemonFCI watch the local news or get a weather scan sometimesJun 14 21:00
DaemonFCTV is mostly off unless I'm watching Netflix on it thoughJun 14 21:00
DaemonFCNetflix: $8 a monthJun 14 21:01
formic__Goblin: my ps3 streams media from my PCJun 14 21:01
DaemonFCDirecTV: $100 a month, at leastJun 14 21:01
formic_formic_: Full HD without the HDCP nonsenseJun 14 21:01
formic_no commercialsJun 14 21:02
DaemonFCNetflix: I choose what to watch, on demand, and there are no adsJun 14 21:02
formic_I choose what to watch, on demand and there are no adsJun 14 21:02
formic_I could probably have an entire season of a show by the time DaemonFC finished watching one show on netflixJun 14 21:02
formic_and i get to keep itJun 14 21:03
DaemonFCthere's not much that I want to keep a copy of Jun 14 21:03
formic_the pirate bay is cheaper than netflixJun 14 21:03
DaemonFCit's more of a hassle to use to find TV showsJun 14 21:04
DaemonFCthe quality of the rip varies, sometimes you can't even find HDJun 14 21:04
DaemonFCThe Copyright Alerts will get you eventuallyJun 14 21:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[torproject/@torproject] RT @eff UK unveils surveillance plan on par with authoritarian regimes: will monitor all email, text, and call activity https://eff.org/ ...Jun 14 21:05
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DaemonFCthe only guarantee they have made is that they won't ever throw you off the internet entirely over the Copyright Alert crapJun 14 21:05
DaemonFCthey CAN do things like reduce your connection speed by 90% or limit you to sites they have whitelisted onlyJun 14 21:06
_Goblinjust as well I think the movies released today are crapJun 14 21:06
MinceRooh, censorshipJun 14 21:06
DaemonFCthe other prong of the attack is to get the US government thugs to take down file storage sitesJun 14 21:06
_Goblinjust as well I wouldn't touch lady gaga and like if you paid meJun 14 21:06
DaemonFCand indiscriminately destroy the data that users store thereJun 14 21:06
DaemonFCwhether it is an infringement or notJun 14 21:06
DaemonFChigh priced entertainment may be a thing of the past eventuallyJun 14 21:09
DaemonFCthe US government is subsidizing fast internet for poor people nowJun 14 21:10
DaemonFCand most of their use will be porn and NetflixJun 14 21:10
DaemonFCor I assume that's their thinkingJun 14 21:10
DaemonFCbread and circuses Jun 14 21:10
DaemonFCpeople are too busy being distracted to notice how fucked they areJun 14 21:10
formic_nah it'll just be pornJun 14 21:11
DaemonFCCan't revolt against the government.....too busy watching two girls one cup....Jun 14 21:11
DaemonFCunnnnnnngggghhhhhhJun 14 21:11
formic_DaemonFC: since you're not interested in girls, do you watch two guys one toilet?Jun 14 21:13
DaemonFCI don't know.....URL? :)Jun 14 21:13
DaemonFC:)Jun 14 21:13
DaemonFCYES!!! YEEEEEEESSSSSSS!!!!!Jun 14 21:14
DaemonFCno :PJun 14 21:14
formic_NSFWJun 14 21:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @mariocampolargo: Billion-euro research race enters closing stage:http://t.co/tXtYOfhn @FETFlagships @Di http://p.ost.im/p/evMWD6Jun 14 21:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] 64 Drone Bases Located On American Soil - Slashdot http://goo.gl/Il2UX #drones #usa #policestateJun 14 21:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] There are now 2 !Hotot apps in the !Google !Chromium store http://goo.gl/4Ktuh and http://goo.gl/j9Nth — What gives?Jun 14 21:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Vote to Save the Planet! - http://bit.ly/LI5I1S not sure this will do much good, but hey, it's worth a shot...Jun 14 21:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is sandersch from identi.ca with 152 dents!Jun 14 21:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Call for 3D Artist Applications (Remote Internships) - http://bit.ly/LcUODZ "free-culture animated science-fiction web series"Jun 14 21:28
_Goblin"And the lord spoke thusly..... I anoint ye Goblin, ruler of the TechRights domain"Jun 14 21:28
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scientes_Goblin, don't flaunt itJun 14 21:33
DaemonFCOpenSuse basically admitted that the project is falling apartJun 14 21:34
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DaemonFCand that they don't have the resources to remain a credible distributionJun 14 21:34
scientesWell we would be better off bring the distributions togetherJun 14 21:34
DaemonFChttp://tech.slashdot.org/story/12/06/14/0253237/aussie-online-retailer-impose-ie7-taxJun 14 21:35
scientesand they screwed the pooch *almost* as bad on the armhf linker location stuff, as fedora (which still has it all screwed up)Jun 14 21:35
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DaemonFCwhy only IE 7?Jun 14 21:35
DaemonFCIE 8 is not much betterJun 14 21:35
scientesi'ts like fedora WANTs binaries to be incompatibleJun 14 21:35
DaemonFCand more than half of Windows users are not allowed to install IE 9Jun 14 21:35
_Goblinscientes, you know what they say....if you got it....flaunt it....Jun 14 21:37
scientesFirefox, Firefox, Firefox, Firefox, Firefox, Firefox, Firefox, Firefox, Firefox, Firefox, Firefox, Firefox, Firefox, Firefox, Firefox, Firefox, Firefox, Firefox, Firefox, Firefox, Firefox, Firefox, Firefox, Firefox, Firefox, Firefox, Firefox, Firefox, Firefox, Firefox, Firefox, Firefox, Firefox, Firefox, Firefox, Firefox, Firefox, Firefox, Firefox, Firefox, Firefox, Firefox, Firefox, Firefox, Firefox, Firefox, Firefox, Firefox, Firefox, FireJun 14 21:37
scientesfox, Firefox, Firefox, Firefox, Firefox, Firefox, Firefox, Firefox, Firefox, Firefox, Firefox, Jun 14 21:37
MinceRscientes: Developers!Jun 14 21:37
_GoblinRollmop HerringsJun 14 21:37
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scientes"i can't quite understand how grey market could ever be deemed illegal." -- naieve is naieveJun 14 21:38
scientes(from slashdot comment)Jun 14 21:38
scientes"if it has value, we want to be able to charge for it...)Jun 14 21:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[torproject/@torproject] long term impact of ITU regulations as debated in comments, making tor illegal globally, http://ur1.ca/9i5so #torJun 14 21:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Has Motorola succeeded in reviving the Razr? Maybe http://ur1.ca/9i5sp #android #motorola #mobile #cellphoneJun 14 21:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Mumble is an free, low-latency, high quality voice chat software ( #Skype replacement) http://ur1.ca/9i5v5 #mumble #foss #linux #gnu #voipJun 14 21:43
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_Goblinscientes, isn't that a given and an example of human "trading" since time began?Jun 14 21:43
_Goblinthis Gord is worth 2 sheckles.....Jun 14 21:43
_Goblinor two parsnips for a potato?Jun 14 21:44
scientes_Goblin, but those are clear "goods" in our current capitalist systemJun 14 21:44
_Goblinok....Jun 14 21:44
_Goblinwhat of soothsayersJun 14 21:44
_Goblinthey had a value... a serviceJun 14 21:44
_Goblinor medicine men/womenJun 14 21:44
scienteswhile there is currently a capitalist scare going on, to speek ofJun 14 21:44
_Goblinpsychologists.....Jun 14 21:45
_Goblinmediators....Jun 14 21:45
_Goblinservice/goods.... I think if its deemed to have a value its pretty much the same thingJun 14 21:45
scienteswhere the new dominent memes are veering away from durable goods, and towards less transitive goodsJun 14 21:45
_Goblincertainly criminal law accomodates both as the same...Jun 14 21:45
scienteswell its a transition and a dogma that is being shoved down peoples throats, that may well just failJun 14 21:46
_GoblinThe offence of "Making off without payment" - Can relate to physical goods or a service.Jun 14 21:46
formic_DaemonFC: fedora doesnt do anything wrongJun 14 21:46
scientesas people fail to internatize the values it represents, which are quite contrary to the instincts to share and mutually prosperJun 14 21:46
_Goblinand I'd say transitive goods are a result of improving techJun 14 21:46
scienteslike softwareJun 14 21:46
scienteswhich really doesn't...well WORK, with a bolted-on capitalist modelJun 14 21:47
_Goblinto be fair I'd rather have my PS3 games downloaded on its HD rather than on Physical diskJun 14 21:47
DaemonFCI finally got ahold of someone from Capital One who isn't "Peggy"Jun 14 21:47
scienteswell...cause it isn't about CAPITAL at allJun 14 21:47
DaemonFCand they said they will fix their siteJun 14 21:47
DaemonFChooray!Jun 14 21:47
scientesso that is why there is a loss of confidence in the capitalist modelJun 14 21:47
MinceRDaemonFC: <thickIndianAccent>hello, this is Richard</>Jun 14 21:48
MinceR?Jun 14 21:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] The Cyberpolitics Of Cyberbellicosity Cyberpushing Cybersecurity To Cyberprevent Cyberwar http://goo.gl/Bgg5PJun 14 21:48
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DaemonFCMinceR: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_czW2t-hCE&feature=relatedJun 14 21:48
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DaemonFCit tries to avoid the Indian stereotype but replaces it with an Eastern European one insteadJun 14 21:48
DaemonFCyou should enjo.....ohhh, right :DJun 14 21:49
MinceR:)Jun 14 21:49
_Goblinits a very interesting concept though, as Jun 14 21:49
_Goblinsorry....wrong IRC server/channelJun 14 21:49
DaemonFC"Naugty Boy! You not pay bill AHAHAHAHAHA!!!!"Jun 14 21:50
DaemonFCLOLJun 14 21:50
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DaemonFCmost of the cards with the better rewards programs have annual fees that wipes out the rewards anywayJun 14 21:54
DaemonFCunless you spend a ton of money it's not worth itJun 14 21:54
MinceR224832 < DaemonFC> MinceR: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_czW2t-hCE&feature=relatedJun 14 21:57
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MinceRlolJun 14 21:57
DaemonFChttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCmf7AYU1X4&feature=relatedJun 14 21:59
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DaemonFChttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Zc_EDDwKhoJun 14 22:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] US Continues To Try To Block Megaupload From Using Its Lawyers, Pretends It Has Jurisdiction Over The World http://goo.gl/jCFs3Jun 14 22:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Jitsi ( #SIP Communicator) is an audio/video and chat communicator ( #Skype replacement) https://jitsi.org/ #jitsi #foss #linux #gnu #voipJun 14 22:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Comparison of Tiling Window Managers - #ArchWiki #gnulinux #tips #wm http://goo.gl/v0AAuJun 14 22:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] When Microsoft Tracks Identities and Conversations http://ur1.ca/51a4r #microsoft #spying #privacy #skypeJun 14 22:25
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DaemonFChttp://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTExOTkJun 14 22:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Cyberpolitics Of Cyberbellicosity Cyberpushing Cybersecurity To Cyberprevent Cyberwar - http://bit.ly/Mu5uw0 ha!Jun 14 22:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] so important to teach children about #censorship - http://bit.ly/MTiU5M shame on Argyll and Bute Council (v @JonCG_novelist @charlesarthur)Jun 14 22:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Ethiopian Gov Bans Skype, Google Talk And All Other VoIP Services - http://tcrn.ch/KFiDQO UK gov to modify snooper's charter to trump thisJun 14 22:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Duffy: Women in Advanced Computing 2012 Summit http://ur1.ca/9i65hJun 14 22:46
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schestowitzThe comments were at least as interesting as the article.Jun 14 22:54
schestowitz"https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1711505"Jun 14 22:54
TechrightsBot-tr@linux@joindiaspora.com: Reviewed: Linux Ubuntu 12.04 — the pipe dream http://gearburn.com/2012/06/reviewed-linux-ubuntu-12-04-the-pipe-dream/ #ubuntu #gnu #linuxJun 14 22:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] Microsoft Threat Management Gateway blocks donate.fsf.org under the category of "Gambling" http://redd.it/v2ddg !GNU !Linux !LibrePlanetJun 14 22:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] New @EFF tutorial: How to enable Do Not Track on your web browser: https://eff.org/r.2adbJun 14 23:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] RT @glynmoody The Cyberpolitics Of Cyberbellicosity Cyberpushing Cybersecurity To Cyberprevent Cyberwar - http://bit.ly/Mu5uw0 ha!Jun 14 23:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] Microsoft Threat Management Gateway blocks donate.fsf.org under the category of "Gambling" http://redd.it/v2e4s !GNU !LinuxJun 14 23:05
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scienteswhy is Maggie Gyllenhaal always go for the sex films?Jun 14 23:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] RT @glynmoody so important to teach children about #censorship - http://bit.ly/MTiU5M shame on Argyll and Bute Council (v @JonCG_novelis ...Jun 14 23:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] The Comprehensive List of Window Managers for #Unix http://goo.gl/l3lo9 #wmJun 14 23:23
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schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTuxoLDnmJUJun 14 23:51
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