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RRGIndeed. Aug 03 00:00
RRGHow do you feel about free software being used by governments for war or financial fraud?Aug 03 00:00
msb_GNU/Linux is an excellent example/model of how people can share and create together.Aug 03 00:00
RRGYes, community is important. Aug 03 00:01
msb_I don't think there's any way to stop them.Aug 03 00:01
RRGWhich is why I am here. Aug 03 00:01
RRGThat`s a rather fatalistic view for someone seeking a birth of human civilization don`t you think?Aug 03 00:01
RRGDoes this birth you are talking about not include any laws?Aug 03 00:02
msb_We have billions of people on this planet, but many are unable to find work, and thus money for survival, because machines are doing what previously required human labor.Aug 03 00:02
RRGyes, but that is a limited scope of the problem. Aug 03 00:03
RRGBRBAug 03 00:03
RRGokAug 03 00:08
msb_It means that we need a different type of economic system than our present capitalism.Aug 03 00:08
RRGyes, and how do you propose to do that if you can`t stop them, in your words.Aug 03 00:08
msb_And we also have to make people aware of how they're being propagandized, which actually reaches the level of mind-control.Aug 03 00:09
RRGYes, indoctrination, tv, raido, other methods and the like.  Aug 03 00:09
msb_I said we can't stop bad guys from using free technology.Aug 03 00:09
RRGbeyond that. Aug 03 00:09
RRGor lets stay there, what does that have to do with techrights and it`s mission. Aug 03 00:10
RRGwhat are the licenses for then?Aug 03 00:10
RRGhow do developers feel about their code being used for war or crimes against humanity?Aug 03 00:10
msb_The good licenses like the GPL help keep the technology free and available to everyone.Aug 03 00:11
msb_I'm sure they don't like it, but by waking people up, those crimes can be opposed.Aug 03 00:11
msb_There's a lot of good stuff on Youtube.Aug 03 00:12
RRGfree and available to everyone even people who would commit genocide?Aug 03 00:12
RRGI don`t even trust the music on youtube, unless it is directly from the artist.Aug 03 00:12
msb_Why not?Aug 03 00:12
RRGI don`t ponder conspiracy theories, I prove out facts. Aug 03 00:12
RRGmethodically.Aug 03 00:13
msb_Yes.Aug 03 00:13
RRGgetting lost in a maze of youtube videos about the bilderbergs is not my bag,Aug 03 00:13
RRGI don`t do wormholes. Aug 03 00:13
msb_wormholes?Aug 03 00:14
RRGyes, a labryinth of bullshit. Aug 03 00:14
RRGwormholes, Aug 03 00:14
RRGnor do I appreciate being directed to them. Aug 03 00:15
RRGas I said I do not ponder theory. Aug 03 00:15
msb_Some of the youtube videos are well organized and very informative.  Aug 03 00:15
RRGin what respect?Aug 03 00:15
msb_Giving evidence, not just theory, and not tending to get one lost in a maze.Aug 03 00:16
RRGevidence towards what ends?Aug 03 00:16
RRGthat the government is at war with itself?Aug 03 00:16
RRGthat the banks are at war with each other?Aug 03 00:16
msb_That video on psychopaths is intelligently organized and very informative.  Check it out.Aug 03 00:16
RRGthat every major bank in america is insolvent?Aug 03 00:16
RRGthat our government is committing genocide?Aug 03 00:16
RRGthat the stock market is algorithmically fraudulent?Aug 03 00:17
RRGI came to ask some simple questions about the community, I do not need reeducation. Aug 03 00:17
msb_Yes, that sort of material is covered.Aug 03 00:17
RRGI already have it covered, all the way to educational institutions and the model. Aug 03 00:18
msb_You asked me how I would help the birth of human civilization to the next level.  I was telling what would help wake up many people.  Not necessarily you.Aug 03 00:19
RRGIs techrights a political organization, a developer community concerned about techrights?Aug 03 00:19
RRGor aAug 03 00:19
RRGIs techrights a political organization, or a developer community concerned about techrights?Aug 03 00:19
RRGAnyone in here who as read my feed knows how I feel about invasion of privacyAug 03 00:20
RRG*has Aug 03 00:20
schestowitzEpisode 73 - transcript (draft for approval) is readyAug 03 00:20
RRGand genocide and satock market fraudAug 03 00:20
RRGand the companies that support them, in any way.Aug 03 00:20
msb_It's a website run by a couple of people, and reports news about software patents (bad), corporations trying to suppress free technology, etc.Aug 03 00:21
RRGI wanted to get to know the people involved in techrights and the community, not get a reeducation camp redirection. Aug 03 00:21
msb_RRG: where is your feed?Aug 03 00:21
msb_You asked me how I would help the birth of human civilization to the next level.  I was telling what would help wake up many people.  Not necessarily you.Aug 03 00:21
RRGI post regularly on twitter @newspyreAug 03 00:21
RRGwell waking up other people can only be done by the people themselves. Aug 03 00:22
RRGand that is a choice unto itself. Aug 03 00:23
RRGand for them. Aug 03 00:23
msb_I disagree.  If people are well asleep, they won't even know about waking up.  They need help from people who are already aware.Aug 03 00:23
RRGand the only way to do that is present accurate information repeatedly, the choice is still theirs. Aug 03 00:24
msb_True.Aug 03 00:24
RRGand depending on the "touch points" some people will choose to never wakeAug 03 00:25
msb_touch points?Aug 03 00:25
RRGtopic of informationAug 03 00:25
RRGdoes an insolvent banker stealing from U.S. taxpayers want to admit they are insolvent?Aug 03 00:25
RRGeven if that is the current economic structure?Aug 03 00:26
RRGor does the stock market want to admit it is probably over 80% algosAug 03 00:26
msb_They are stealing whether insolvent or not.Aug 03 00:26
RRGlol, that is true. Aug 03 00:26
RRGits systemic, its corporate structure and its a pattern that is as old as the fed itself.Aug 03 00:27
RRGand my question remains the same, how do the developers feel about code being used for war or fraud?Aug 03 00:27
msb_Older, since the banking cartel has controlled governments to various extents for hundreds of years.Aug 03 00:27
formic_Msb_ stop talking shitAug 03 00:28
msb_I've not seen any discussion about it.Aug 03 00:28
formic_What is psychic about quantum entanglementAug 03 00:28
RRGok, beyond that. and what is the license for if it can not be enforced to prevent it. Aug 03 00:28
msb_Ah, there is Brandon Lozza, aka (at this moment) "formic".Aug 03 00:28
RRGI did not come here to antagonize.Aug 03 00:28
formic_msb_: I heard you were talking shitAug 03 00:29
RRGand apparently their is some misunderstanding regarding my motives that I plainly statedAug 03 00:29
RRG*thereAug 03 00:29
formic_RRG: Msb is crazyAug 03 00:29
msb_I don't think genocidal militarists will care if they are violating licenses.Aug 03 00:30
formic_He's a Marxist and thinks Cuba has a good government but refuses to GTFO of the USAug 03 00:30
msb_Also, the fascisti can do with proprietary software pretty much anything we can do with free software.  It will cost them money, but they have trillions.Aug 03 00:31
formic_He doesn't have to work so he spends his time cutting out newspaper clippings and posting on the Internet about thermite dust and Microsoft subverting Kde because it has "bling"Aug 03 00:32
formic_RRG: He thinks thermite dust took out the towers and not planesAug 03 00:33
msb_RRG: You seemed a bit antagonistic at times, but don't worry about it. 8^)Aug 03 00:33
formic_9/11Aug 03 00:33
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schestowitz[23:49] <msb_> Left/right is valid, but Democrats and Republicans are not it.Aug 03 00:34
schestowitzyes, RMS says so in our next episodeAug 03 00:34
msb_RRG: Big topics currently in the techrights area of the community include software patents and the UEFI restricted boot BIOS that can prevent people from loading any other OS on to their computer  than the one specified by the manufacturer (generally MS Windows).Aug 03 00:36
msb_schestowitz: Great!  I want to listen to those interviews!Aug 03 00:36
formic_Full of shit msb_ Aug 03 00:36
formic_You can turn it off or install fedora or ubuntu with it onAug 03 00:37
formic_Microsoft wouldn't give fedora a key of they were blocking linuxAug 03 00:37
msb_UEFI can be set up by the mfr so it can't be changed.Aug 03 00:37
formic_Install fedora thenAug 03 00:38
formic_LolAug 03 00:38
formic_Or Ubuntu Aug 03 00:38
formic_Why don't you stop using Microsoft open suseAug 03 00:38
formic_:)Aug 03 00:38
msb_http://www.ghabuntu.com/2012/07/uefi-or-age-of-useless-computers.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+luqman+%28GHABUNTU%29Aug 03 00:39
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formic_Answer thisAug 03 00:39
formic_Answer thisAug 03 00:39
formic_If Novell sabotaged Kde then how is suse immuneAug 03 00:39
formic_Logic flies out the windowAug 03 00:39
msb_http://www.reddit.com/r/gnuAug 03 00:40
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formic_I suggest you stop making shit up about me msb_ - I haven't bugged you in monthsAug 03 00:41
formic_My battery is dying so I'm going to shut up for now but I'll be watching for slanderAug 03 00:42
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RRGmy apologies for the disconnect, the computers at the library have a timer. Aug 03 00:47
msb_RRG: Hi!Aug 03 00:47
RRGand that was bad timing, it was just starting to get interesting. Aug 03 00:47
RRGit took almost an hour but nonetheless. Aug 03 00:47
msb_You missed a big attack by Brandon Lozza, my stalker!Aug 03 00:47
msb_... which I ignored.Aug 03 00:48
RRGwell I don`t know any Brandons anymore and have been desensitized to any kind of attacks, even from "intel"Aug 03 00:48
RRGNow where were we. Aug 03 00:49
RRGgenocidal militarists?Aug 03 00:49
msb_I was saying that big topics currently include software patents and UEFI restricted boot.Aug 03 00:49
RRGYes, I am aware of that. Aug 03 00:49
RRGWe need to back up a little first. Aug 03 00:49
msb_Yes, on that I said they wouldn't be put off by licenses.Aug 03 00:50
RRGYes, you mentioned that. Aug 03 00:50
RRGWas that by design or unintended consequences?Aug 03 00:50
msb_Was what?Aug 03 00:51
RRGIs techrights a community or a heirarchy?Aug 03 00:51
RRGthat they would not be put off by licenses, aren`t that what those are for?Aug 03 00:51
RRGenforcement, litigation and such?Aug 03 00:52
DaemonFCIt is a hive mind. The Borg implants itch at first, but we have an analgesic cream.Aug 03 00:52
DaemonFC:)Aug 03 00:52
msb_Techrights is a website, a web-radio program, an irc channel, run by Dr. Roy Schestowitz and I think one or two others.Aug 03 00:52
RRGYes, I am aware of that too. Aug 03 00:52
RRGThank you. Aug 03 00:52
RRGThere is very pertinent information that I think is critical to more than just computing freedom. Aug 03 00:53
msb_Plus, I guess people who come into the irc channel, like us.Aug 03 00:53
RRGI think the terminology was it`s more than an ethical, social or political question.Aug 03 00:53
RRGor technological question also...Aug 03 00:54
RRGllol, with the kind of welcome I received? It must turn quickly after the initiation or feeling out period.Aug 03 00:54
msb_Turn?Aug 03 00:55
RRGAnd I am a big fan of the benefit of a doubt...Aug 03 00:55
msb_Do you feel you've been mistreated?Aug 03 00:55
msb_That certainly was not my intent!Aug 03 00:56
RRGlol, no, but we took an hour to get to any kind of relevant questionAug 03 00:56
RRGif this is not the right forum to ask relevant questions, is there another place?Aug 03 00:57
RRGor is their an assimilation process?Aug 03 00:57
RRG*thereAug 03 00:57
msb_I recommend just relax and hang out.Aug 03 00:57
RRGI came to the channel open minded with the intent of learning more about the community beyond watching microsoft implode. Aug 03 00:58
msb_Well, communication in text is sometimes difficult.Aug 03 00:58
RRGand beyond the different proprietary flavors enabling economic crimes. Aug 03 00:58
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1840566Aug 03 00:59
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schestowitz"Keep Calm and Share :)"Aug 03 00:59
RRGand still want to know how the techrights community feels about economic and war crimes and GPLAug 03 00:59
msb_Are there specific questions you'd like to ask?Aug 03 00:59
RRGyes, they have been asked twice. Aug 03 01:00
msb_schestowitz: Very good!Aug 03 01:00
RRGor maybe even three times.Aug 03 01:00
schestowitz Jacob Appelbaum retweeted me an hour ago :-)Aug 03 01:00
schestowitzre Skype spyingAug 03 01:00
schestowitzhe was on TV a few tuimes advocating SIPAug 03 01:00
msb_I gave what I thought was a relevant answer.  Psychopaths engaged in mass murder aren't going to care whether they're violating licenses, patents, copyrights, etc.Aug 03 01:01
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1829641Aug 03 01:01
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: If copy-right is all about restriction, then why is it called a "right"? Orwellian language (a la PATRIOT ACT)Aug 03 01:01
schestowitz"It gives them the privilege/power, not the right."Aug 03 01:02
schestowitzmsb_: laws are shaped by humansAug 03 01:02
msb_True.Aug 03 01:02
schestowitzeven the mythical 10 commandmentsAug 03 01:02
schestowitzusually serving powerAug 03 01:02
schestowitzinvisible or manlyAug 03 01:02
schestowitzor invisible entity to justify giving power to a humanAug 03 01:02
schestowitz!google youtube history of government on earthAug 03 01:03
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - The History of Government Sponsored Terror - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DicOE7rn8jkUAug 03 01:03
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Google Earth - Freaky Face on Mars and Historical Maps - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DBr1ju8J3hPcAug 03 01:03
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Godfathers Of Earth [Rothschild Family History] - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DubBmejnX67EAug 03 01:03
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - 2012 UFOS ALIENS SECRET EARTH HISTORY Alex ... - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DoBphD0DtcJsAug 03 01:03
RRGso techrights is an existential organization?Aug 03 01:03
msb_And most laws are shaped by psychopaths, whose claim to humanity is dubious.Aug 03 01:03
RRGI dont understand. Aug 03 01:03
schestowitzTechrights - we are legio... oh waitAug 03 01:03
DaemonFCCommandment 1: You have no freedom. You have 27 flavors of poptarts.Aug 03 01:03
RRGlolAug 03 01:03
RRGwell this is not as productive as I would have liked it to be, Aug 03 01:04
DaemonFCCommandment 2: You will submit to authority, even when it is corrupt and will mistreat you.Aug 03 01:04
schestowitzall the first commandments are about subjecting yourselfAug 03 01:04
RRGwhat is past microsoft? anything?Aug 03 01:04
schestowitzit's only around the fourth that you meet some common sense that can be condensed onto "don't be a dick"Aug 03 01:04
RRGbrb.Aug 03 01:05
DaemonFCCommandment 3: BOHICA (Bend Over, Here It Comes Again!)Aug 03 01:05
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msb_RRG: software patent wars, UEFI, drug freedom, currency freedomAug 03 01:05
msb_food freedomAug 03 01:05
msb_DaemonFC: good one!Aug 03 01:05
msb_schestowitz: Roy -- did you say the same person who sent you evidence about MS astroturfing in cola ALSO mentioned David Icke???Aug 03 01:07
DaemonFCCommandment 4: The drug czar loves you. Every czar loves you!Aug 03 01:07
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DaemonFCCommandment 5: You can get away with some really dumb shit if it's a "religious belief".Aug 03 01:08
DaemonFCIt's true!Aug 03 01:08
DaemonFCthat's an implicit commandment, it implies you're SUPPOSED to do really dumb shitAug 03 01:08
msb_Genital mutilation.Aug 03 01:08
DaemonFCI'm sure you'll think of somethingAug 03 01:08
msb_Or good shit -- that peyote church.Aug 03 01:08
DaemonFCyeah, I want to go to that oneAug 03 01:09
RRG_so where were we?Aug 03 01:09
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msb_We were suggesting you relax.Aug 03 01:10
msb_And light up a doobie.Aug 03 01:10
RRG_lol, Aug 03 01:10
RRG_beyond thatAug 03 01:10
DaemonFCIf the list of commandments were groceries, we'd be down to 5 by now and they'd be in the same size box they were in before.Aug 03 01:10
msb_Check out the urls that go by in the channel.  Some are very interesting.Aug 03 01:11
RRG_so is this the usual response to outsiders attempting to gain a better understanding of the community?Aug 03 01:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] rofl, just found out that "You Bastard", the #Disworld's mathematician camel has a mate called "Evil Smelling Bugger" - also a camelAug 03 01:11
RRG_with some very simple questionsAug 03 01:11
RRG_thank you but no thank you, I am very particular about the sources of news that I parseAug 03 01:12
RRG_which is why I am a bit confused, the articles are so clear and conciseAug 03 01:12
RRG_and the irc channel is anything but. Aug 03 01:12
RRG_IIn other words, I am a little disappointed. Aug 03 01:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] The @globalvoices translathon of the Declaration of Internet Freedom is now live! Lend your language skills here: https://eff.org/r.4ahnAug 03 01:13
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msb_RRG_: I'm sorry that we're not satisfying your needs.Aug 03 01:14
msb_We really have very little party discipline here.Aug 03 01:14
DaemonFCgiggity!Aug 03 01:14
RRG_msb, I don`t have any needs that require satisfying. Aug 03 01:15
RRG_especially any that have to do with ego or feeding the self.Aug 03 01:15
RRG_and while lighting a doobie is a good recommendation, I came to get a better understanding of the communityAug 03 01:16
RRG_and so far all I have received is static and misdirection. Aug 03 01:17
RRG_and Im not mad about it, it appears to be a hierarchy. Aug 03 01:17
RRG_I was hoping it was a community.Aug 03 01:17
RRG_and wanted to see how one might contributeAug 03 01:18
RRG_past acknowledging that microsoft are monopolists, racketeers and are committing every form of espionage one could imagine. Aug 03 01:19
RRG_and past their defective malware. Aug 03 01:19
RRG_Iwhile it has been a while since I have engaged technology. I can see that not much has changed.Aug 03 01:20
RRG_other than the public distros are enabling widespread and financial crimes. Aug 03 01:20
RRG_and the size and speed of the technology increased. Aug 03 01:21
msb_I mentioned a number of topics that I, as a prime member of THE COMMUNITY, think are relevant, but you don't seem to like them.Aug 03 01:21
RRG_are you telling me that there are no answers here?Aug 03 01:22
RRG_or discussion of uncomfortable topics?Aug 03 01:22
RRG_is this a prime opportunity to flame someone?Aug 03 01:22
msb_As I said before, I doubt that public distros are enabling widespread and financial crimes, since the criminals can do the same evil using proprietary software which they can easily afford.Aug 03 01:22
RRG_or attempt to?Aug 03 01:22
msb_Didn't I just answer your big question?Aug 03 01:23
RRG_if a particular proprietary software is a platform for a proprietary trading exchange that is committing widespread fraud, that would be considered aiding and abettingAug 03 01:24
RRG_in a just world. Aug 03 01:24
RRG_I will brb, it could be a few minutes. Aug 03 01:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] What Would You Like To Hear In A Techdirt Podcast? http://is.gd/EUl3fMAug 03 01:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] We are proud to have stood with the Internet to #defendprivacy. We will remain vigilant against future threats. https://eff.org/r.a8hpAug 03 01:24
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msb_brbAug 03 01:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Craig’s Big Bluff http://is.gd/vBowshAug 03 01:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] RT @x11r5 @thistleweb Here you will have giant iphones installed which require accepting the gpl before placing a callAug 03 01:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Quite nicehttp://www.hypable.com/2012/08/02/harry-potter-visual-effects/ http://ur1.ca/9vevlAug 03 01:29
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RRGin continuation...Aug 03 01:31
RRGam I to understand that if people, or corporations are using any flavor of linux to commit crimes it is not the same as microsoft doing it with their malware?Aug 03 01:32
RRGisnt racketeering racketeering regardless?Aug 03 01:33
RRGisnt a fraudulent trading platform intentionally bilking unsuspecting or misinformed or disinformed investors ethically wrong? Aug 03 01:34
RRGdoesnt that go against the principles of free and open software?Aug 03 01:34
RRGnow I know developers are not necessarily responsible for what their employers do, but where does techrights stand on these issues?Aug 03 01:36
RRGand how do developers feel about GPL code being used in financial or acts of genocide?Aug 03 01:36
RRGand is there a way to stop it? enforce it? or inhibit it? and does it have the will to even attempt to?Aug 03 01:37
RRGor does it even care?Aug 03 01:37
RRGI also know these are difficult questions for any social, technological or political communityAug 03 01:38
RRGor even people in general, regardless of affiliation. Aug 03 01:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] This week in Internet censorship: Crackdowns in Nigeria, Tajikistan, Morocco and tragedy in Vietnam https://eff.org/r.2ahrAug 03 01:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Phone hacking: Rebekah Brooks formally charged http://is.gd/2BQCZN couldn't happen to a nicer person #scumAug 03 01:39
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RRGIn any event, thoughts to ponder. Have a great evening. Aug 03 01:40
RRGAfternoon or morning, depending on where you are. Aug 03 01:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] apparently Brooks wants her claims of innocence taken seriously, unlike the trial by media mob she ran at #NIAug 03 01:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] I notice the #Sun are once again on top of the news when one of their own is charged #Brooks - not a dickie bird mentioned so farAug 03 01:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] surely you can only call yourself a newspaper of you actually report the news, even when it's another one of your own up on hacking chargesAug 03 01:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @martinolivera: Me tienen podrido los promotores del #SoftwareLibre q dicen "es mas seguro, lindo, fácil, poderoso". El SL ES POLÍTICA!Aug 03 02:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] time to rename it to copyleft-prev :-) ♻ @jxself: I'm disappointed by removal of "anti-Tivoization" provisions in #copyleft-nextAug 03 03:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #RIM Agrees To Hand Over Its Encryption Keys To India http://is.gd/nIylRZ RIM just lost their single USPAug 03 03:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] After stemming subscription losses, World of Warcraft gets hit with worst exodus yet http://is.gd/KtrdgGAug 03 03:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Stable kernel 3.2.25 http://ur1.ca/9vffqAug 03 03:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Patent and Copyright Wars Gone Wild http://is.gd/0IECORAug 03 05:14
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1839698Aug 03 05:15
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Nokia Betrays Qt, as Techrights Predicted in 2008 http://goo.gl/A4jwj #trolltech #qt #nokia #microdoft #linux #kdeAug 03 05:15
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TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: Nokia Betrays Qt, as Techrights Predicted in 2008 | Techrights .::. Size~: 85.52 KBAug 03 05:15
schestowitzIn a few hundred years it is going to be a legend about "Microsoft touch" like we have now about Midas gold touch but just the opposite. Once upon a time there was a bad M$ king who wanted to spoil other kingdoms so he prayed for a shit touch...Aug 03 05:15
schestowitzThe moral is the same: eventually you have to eat, but you can't eat nor shit nor gold.Aug 03 05:15
schestowitzHow long they can play that game? How many more companies will fall for the trick?Aug 03 05:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] No, 99% Of All Filmmakers Shouldn't Crowdfund... But An Awful Lot Should Be Testing It Out http://is.gd/tyEdsoAug 03 05:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: No, 99% Of All Filmmakers Shouldn't Crowdfund... But An Awful Lot Should Be Testing It Out | Techdirt .::. Size~: 41.96 KBAug 03 05:16
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/95818417 http://identi.ca/notice/95818416Aug 03 05:18
TechrightsBot-tr@siddharth (rsiddharth)'s status on Friday, 03-Aug-12 02:54:40 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz .. "software patents"Aug 03 05:18
TechrightsBot-tr@siddharth (rsiddharth)'s status on Friday, 03-Aug-12 02:54:37 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz If I am not wrong the transcript of the question on patents has a minor typo - it says "software parents" instead of ..Aug 03 05:18
schestowitzthis has been fixed now (in two places)Aug 03 05:22
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/95806159Aug 03 05:23
TechrightsBot-tr@Marti van Lin (ml2mst)'s status on Thursday, 02-Aug-12 11:59:38 UTC - Identi.ca: At least @Schestowitz and @sjvn took a stand, the rest remained silent IIRC :-(Aug 03 05:23
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/95767605Aug 03 05:24
TechrightsBot-tr@Kevin Granade (kevingranade)'s status on Tuesday, 31-Jul-12 14:23:08 UTC - linuxwrangling: @schestowitz interesting legislative approach, rather than "don't issue software patents", say "software cannot violate a patent".Aug 03 05:24
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Zorbitor/status/231242938775121920Aug 03 05:25
TechrightsBot-tr@Zorbitor: @DragnDon @schestowitz Lest we forget...August 16th..surveillance & drones http://t.co/QHoVwnTTAug 03 05:25
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jmcest/status/231059696340049922Aug 03 05:25
TechrightsBot-tr@jmcest: MT @schestowitz #Apple Resorts to Emergency Action to Block #Linux Devices W/ Software Patents http://t.co/TkMpc6ax #android #samsungAug 03 05:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Super Rich Holding $21 Trillion Overseas To Avoid Taxation http://goo.gl/bRcBW the Fraud Creators, looting society, giving nothingAug 03 05:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Super Rich Holding $21 Trillion Overseas To Avoid Taxation | PR Watch .::. Size~: 49.95 KBAug 03 05:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] Me thinks the DoS attack on #bullchat is a #Hoax #gay #lgbt #gaykrant #gk Stunt of a joker to get followers on #twitterAug 03 05:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Link shortening in #identica has been broken for two days. It seems like nobody is even working on a fix; *sigh*Aug 03 05:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Economist forecasts bigger crash ahead: http://identi.ca/url/73021859Aug 03 06:03
TechrightsBot-trTitle: New Crash will be worse than 2008 says economist .::. Size~: 58.5 KBAug 03 06:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] Mensen verwachten van een partij, dat die HUN belangen behartigd. Daarom gaan @Kletskous @KarinSpaink en de gek zelvers voor @PiratenpartijAug 03 06:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] German company METRO AG makes Microsoft ditch Metro name in Windows 8. Makes sense, I guess. http://www.metrogroup.de... http://b1t.it/bRTmAug 03 06:24
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Jan Wildeboer - Google+ - German company METRO AG makes Microsoft ditch Metro name in… .::. Size~: 140.12 KBAug 03 06:24
scientessupposedly its hard to buy milk in japanAug 03 06:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] A software patent. From 1973. By Dennis M. Ritchie (yes, that one). http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=P... http://b1t.it/bRTNAug 03 07:34
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Jan Wildeboer - Google+ - A software patent. From 1973. By Dennis M. Ritchie (yes,… .::. Size~: 191.59 KBAug 03 07:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] Good Morning @marjoleink! !tzag !identiverseAug 03 07:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] Morning @sanderschAug 03 07:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Naked and the #TED - http://bit.ly/N77iL6 splendid taking-down of trousers by @evgenymorozov (@leashless @ericgarland)Aug 03 07:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Evgeny Morozov: The Naked And The TED | The New Republic .::. Size~: 101.31 KBAug 03 07:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] RT @kevie Due to the recent update on the !Jamendo site I've had to update a (still very popular) blog post http://tinyurl.com/cv683j2 ! ...Aug 03 08:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux, open source & anything else: Jamendo - download Ogg files directly (Updated) .::. Size~: 88.49 KBAug 03 08:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Welcome to Emerging Leader Labs - http://bit.ly/MU9o4Q good to see people exploring new stuff (v @mbauwens)Aug 03 08:03
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Home - Emerging Leader Labs .::. Size~: 17.78 KBAug 03 08:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] US Proposal for a Limitations & Exceptions Clause in #TPP - http://bit.ly/MgJyBX "difficult to provide specific textual commentary"Aug 03 08:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Public Statement on the U.S. Proposal for a Limitations and Exceptions Clause in the Trans-Pacific Partnership .::. Size~: 41.81 KBAug 03 08:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] RT @grote Der digitale Briefkasten der @zeitonline für Leaks wurde jetzt als #FreieSoftware veröffentlicht http://bit.ly/QbwbIC #Wistleb ...Aug 03 08:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: ZEIT ONLINE startet digitalen Briefkasten » ZEIT, Dokumente, ONLINE, Briefkasten, Ihre, Ihrer » ZEITansage .::. Size~: 52.84 KBAug 03 08:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] IaaS Pricing Patterns and Trends - http://bit.ly/MUabCH fascinating graphs (v @cdaffara) #cloudAug 03 08:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: IaaS Pricing Patterns and Trends – tecosystems .::. Size~: 51.3 KBAug 03 08:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] How Did 21-Year-Old Chavis Carter Get Shot In Head While Handcuffed In A Police Car? - http://bit.ly/N2NI4C no comment (v @wendycockcroft)Aug 03 08:19
TechrightsBot-trTitle: How Did 21-Year-Old Chavis Carter Get Shot In The Head While Handcuffed In A Police Car? | ThinkProgress .::. Size~: 36.95 KBAug 03 08:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Outdated Compulsory Licensing Means Australian Schools Must Pay Millions To Use Free Internet Materials - http://bit.ly/T5LSRw crazy #auAug 03 08:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Outdated Compulsory Licensing Means Australian Schools Must Pay Millions To Use Free Internet Materials | Techdirt .::. Size~: 37.97 KBAug 03 08:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Filippetti met l’Hadopi au tapis - http://bit.ly/Qz3Qy6 potentially big: future of #hadopi uncertain; big cuts in funding (v @cybearDJM) #frAug 03 08:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] yes, worryingAug 03 08:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] maybe they should just grow upAug 03 08:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] I thought it was just play acting; maybe not...Aug 03 08:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] Stoepzitten? Kost 220 euro in #Maastricht doorgeslagen "Handhaving" #onleefbare stad. Staand op een terrasje drinken mag ook niet meer!Aug 03 08:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Mitt Romney confirms he would end US wind power subsidies - http://bit.ly/NpQCfC but keep $40 bn subsidies/tax breaks for oil & gasAug 03 08:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] Newspaper “Die Zeit”: #Wistleblower software published as !FreeSoftware is.gd/wAHP3q !gnu !fsfeAug 03 08:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] Newspaper “Die Zeit”: Wistleblower software published as Free Software http://b1t.it/bRUHAug 03 09:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] Toepasselijke slogan voor de Stad #Maastricht "Maag neet, maag, neet, maag neet!" #handhavingAug 03 09:03
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Metztli_IT/status/231254470581956608?uid=26603208&iid=am-60662501713439703371491387&nid=4+25Aug 03 09:19
TechrightsBot-tr@Metztli_IT: RT @lnxwalt280 @schestowitz I think the UR1.CA shortener is br0ken. If you change URL setting to 'internal' shortener, it works.Aug 03 09:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] #FilmReview "Get the Gringo" ****Aug 03 09:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] #Google services seem to be down in my part of the world :(Aug 03 09:21
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/keithccurtis/status/231251458920677377?uid=26603208&iid=am-82952056813439696190740118&nid=27+236Aug 03 09:25
TechrightsBot-tr@keithccurtis: @schestowitz so having money in other countries is stealing? Interesting logic.Aug 03 09:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: #Greece has talent; lots! Leaders shd invest in the future: youth, ICT entrepreneurs! h http://p.ost.im/p/degB76Aug 03 09:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: #hypercraft Economy = Bottoms-up 4 innovation! 1st of my crowd-sourced blogs by Keimpe d http://p.ost.im/p/dexDp4Aug 03 09:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: Wheelchair user in London or there 4 #london2012 ? Try this great app / project http://t http://p.ost.im/p/deavqDAug 03 09:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] RT @grote Now seems to be a good time to point to this article listing Ten Reasons Why You Should Boycott #Skype http://bit.ly/PI4nHpAug 03 09:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Ich frage mich wann die erste Klage wegen Diskriminierung nach dem Gleichstellungsgesetz kommen wird.  http://www.sue... http://b1t.it/bRVyAug 03 09:54
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Jan Wildeboer - Google+ - Ich frage mich wann die erste Klage wegen Diskriminierung… .::. Size~: 186.4 KBAug 03 09:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @glynmoody Mitt Romney confirms he would end US wind power subsidies - http://bit.ly/NpQCfC but keep $40 bn subsidies/tax breaks for ...Aug 03 09:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fsfe/@fsfe] RT @grote Now seems to be a good time to point to this article listing Ten Reasons Why You Should Boycott #Skype http://bit.ly/PI4nHpAug 03 09:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Drupal 7.15 Released http://identi.ca/url/73023174 #drupal #cmsAug 03 09:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Whose games [IMG] http://identi.ca/url/73023179Aug 03 09:58
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1841032Aug 03 09:58
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: ![image/photo](http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m85sjejAbj1qbqr27o1_500.jpg) #creationism #science #wtfAug 03 09:58
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schestowitz"Makes me feel like strapping them down in a chair and connecting them up to it in bulk!"Aug 03 09:58
msb_NO!!!  Please don't make me vote for OBomber!!!  I'm pretty sure he's the Antichrist!Aug 03 09:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] Windows 8 hoeft geen ramp te zijn http://is.gd/Ac7Q1O via @Webwereld door @ArjenKamphuis supergoed artikel, het lezen de moeite waard!Aug 03 09:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Windows 8 hoeft geen ramp te zijn (column) | Webwereld .::. Size~: 67.29 KBAug 03 09:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @kirschner Newspaper “Die Zeit”: Wistleblower software published as Free Software http://b1t.it/bRUHAug 03 10:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] RT @grote Now seems to be a good time to point to this article listing Ten Reasons Why You Should Boycott #Skype http://bit.ly/PI4nHpAug 03 10:09
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1841030Aug 03 10:16
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: car culture ![ride a bike](http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m83hk35VPZ1ql6jblo1_500.png) #corporate #oilAug 03 10:16
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schestowitz"People need to realize they don't need some things, or that those things can run cheaper and more environmentally-friendly. Car has nothing to do with the social status, it is an automobile which - in some cases - may help you commute, in other - it can make your life a pain when you stuck in frequent traffic jams. Alternative motors, hydrogen engines, etc. That's what we need.Car should be silent and safe. You don't need more roads Aug 03 10:16
schestowitzand more cars. You need less cars, less roads, more forests and places in which you can rest and relax."Aug 03 10:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] !Tzag Identizens. @Ml2mst @Schestowitz @Reality @Morph @Sazius. #aewiuAug 03 10:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #DROID RAZR HD Appears in All Its Glory Thanks to Another Forum Leak http://identi.ca/url/73023376 #android #linuxAug 03 10:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Canalys Researchers Report Strong Android Smartphone Numbers http://identi.ca/url/73023405 #android #linuxAug 03 10:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @sandersch 'Samsung confirms next Galaxy Note will debut at Mobile Unpacked event this month' http://tinyurl.com/d7v3sxv !AndroidAug 03 10:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Samsung confirms next Galaxy Note will debut at Mobile Unpacked event this month - Engadget .::. Size~: 71.2 KBAug 03 10:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #KDE netbook desktop: My guide to configuring and using it http://identi.ca/url/73023426 #linuxAug 03 10:44
TechrightsBot-trTitle: KDE netbook desktop: My guide to configuring and using it | ZDNet .::. Size~: 64.33 KBAug 03 10:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Does #Archlinux need a new slogan? http://identi.ca/url/73023452 #gnu #linuxAug 03 10:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #KDE colours in Firefox, finally resolved http://identi.ca/url/73023495 #mozilla #firefoxAug 03 10:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle: GNUski bacon: KDE colours in Firefox, finally resolved .::. Size~: 103.09 KBAug 03 10:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] New #Ubuntu 12.10 #Unity Concept Looks Amazing http://identi.ca/url/73023504 #gnu #linuxAug 03 10:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: New Ubuntu 12.10 Unity Concept Looks Amazing - Softpedia .::. Size~: 54.82 KBAug 03 10:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] About sums it up IMHO:"This time, it's Apple, not with a claim of slander of title, but similarly claiming it can accu... http://b1t.it/bRXbAug 03 11:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Jan Wildeboer - Google+ - About sums it up IMHO: "This time, it's Apple, not with a… .::. Size~: 187.78 KBAug 03 11:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] I always come back to #ZorinOS http://identi.ca/url/73023656 #gnu #linux #russiaAug 03 11:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: I always come back to Zorin OS - Linux notes from DarkDuck .::. Size~: 129.89 KBAug 03 11:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[torproject/@torproject] Ever wondered what #Tor developers work on each month? Check out tor-reports: https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-reports/Aug 03 11:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Valve: #Linux runs our games faster than #Vista7 http://identi.ca/url/73023879 it is also free to install, doesn't spy on you, etc.Aug 03 11:43
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iophkAnd on Windows OpenGL is faster than DirectX — and is cross-platform.  No reason to use DirectX, it was a mistake for the game companies to use it.Aug 03 11:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] WIN! ♻ @youjustdontdo: @rysiekpl Now we’re going even further: We uploaded all raw material to http://t.co/eImNlhFo and ask for remixes. !ccAug 03 12:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Linux 3.6-rc1 http://identi.ca/url/73024155Aug 03 12:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] Now starting to liberate an #Android phone together with .@grote and .@3rik #freeyourandroidAug 03 12:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] London Olympics 1908 http://identi.ca/url/73024162Aug 03 12:23
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schestowitziophk: why did they end up using it?Aug 03 12:24
iophkIIRC there was some nasty pressure and strong-arming from M$Aug 03 12:25
iophkGetting them onto DirectX locks them into not just Windows but specific versions.Aug 03 12:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Embedding #copyright-infringing video is not a crime, court rules -http://cnet.co/Mni0RE looks an important rulingAug 03 12:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Change to #copyright laws threatens #furniture makers and thousands of jobs -http://bit.ly/OFk2Zk interesting pushbackAug 03 12:26
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iophkWith OpenGL, there is not just better performance but mobility to other platforms.Aug 03 12:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Indian coal mining a threat to tigers, Greenpeace warns - http://bit.ly/T62GYD making #coal a little bit more evil #indaAug 03 12:34
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DaemonFChttps://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=zPeT2W1SHocAug 03 12:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] MT @Todd_Roy picture of 2 perfectly round concentric circles your brain will refuse to see http://bit.ly/Nq9BXn impressive (v @monkchips)Aug 03 12:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Mass #surveillance and classified #patents - http://bit.ly/OFlr2c fascinating, overlooked areaAug 03 12:43
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DaemonFCI just tried one of those spinach and cheese lean pocketsAug 03 12:53
DaemonFCblehAug 03 12:53
DaemonFClike cardboardAug 03 12:53
DaemonFCthe thing actually tasted like the box probably would haveAug 03 12:53
DaemonFCthese are normally not badAug 03 12:54
*DaemonFC won't be getting that flavor againAug 03 12:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Amazon deforestation falls again - http://bit.ly/M8kj9M still happening, but slower; kudos to those working on this #brazilAug 03 12:54
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oiaohmDaemonFC: spinach fat free is not a good idea.Aug 03 12:56
DaemonFCit looked so good on the boxAug 03 12:57
DaemonFCoh well, fool me onceAug 03 12:57
oiaohmDaemonFC: spinach and cheese can be good.Aug 03 12:57
DaemonFCthose philly steak and cheese ones are good, so are the chicken enchilada onesAug 03 12:57
oiaohmDaemonFC: Ie I have real spinach.Aug 03 12:57
DaemonFCwell, the spinach and mozzarella probably would have been OK if they had seasoned it with something Aug 03 12:57
oiaohmDaemonFC: Yep you need a cheese with some fat content.Aug 03 12:58
DaemonFCthe outer shells on these are like pretzels nowAug 03 12:58
oiaohmSome of these people who make healthy food must not know what good food tastes like.Aug 03 12:58
DaemonFCI don't eat much red meatAug 03 12:58
oiaohmThat is my problem.Aug 03 12:59
DaemonFCI mean, I'll eat it, but it's just not something I usually doAug 03 12:59
oiaohmI grew up on a cattle properity.Aug 03 12:59
oiaohmSo almost ever meal contains meat.Aug 03 12:59
oiaohmJust different forms.Aug 03 12:59
DaemonFCpeople that put hamburger in their spaghetti sauce gross me outAug 03 12:59
oiaohmDaemonFC: really no that is not grose.Aug 03 13:00
oiaohmDaemonFC: the bad one is brians.Aug 03 13:00
oiaohmIe hamburger meat is eatable in speghetti sauseAug 03 13:00
oiaohmYes there are some combinations you should not do.Aug 03 13:00
DaemonFCI go for turkey meat or chicken more often than beefAug 03 13:01
DaemonFCI buy those seasoned turkey burgers and turkey bacon a lotAug 03 13:01
DaemonFCturkey meat is actually cheaper per pound than hamburger anywayAug 03 13:02
DaemonFCand it's pretty low in fatAug 03 13:02
DaemonFCthe price of beef is dipping down right now, but that's just temporaryAug 03 13:02
DaemonFCcattle farms are slaughtering their herds because the corn prices are going up because of the droughtAug 03 13:03
DaemonFCso you'll see beef going on sale a lot in the US over the next 3-4 monthsAug 03 13:03
DaemonFCbut then the price will rebound and be higher than it has ever been beforeAug 03 13:03
DaemonFCturkeys require a lot less feed for the amount of usable meat you get from them, so the corn prices aren't going to spike the ground turkey prices quite as muchAug 03 13:04
oiaohmTurkey is very expensive where I am.Aug 03 13:04
oiaohmBeef I eat has travelled less than 100 kms in its complete life.Aug 03 13:05
oiaohmReally I should eat some more fish.Aug 03 13:06
DaemonFCa neighbor I used to have has some family up near Michigan that owned a cattle farmAug 03 13:06
DaemonFCso she'd let me buy all kinds of steaks at incredibly cheap pricesAug 03 13:06
DaemonFCand it was better stuff than any grocery store near here sellsAug 03 13:06
DaemonFCand it was like, half the price per pound tooAug 03 13:06
oiaohmYes that is why I deal directly with the farms.Aug 03 13:07
DaemonFCright before she moved, I bought a whole bunch off her and filled up my freezerAug 03 13:07
oiaohmBetter quality and cheaper.Aug 03 13:07
DaemonFCate off of that for monthsAug 03 13:07
oiaohmSo you know what good beef is like.Aug 03 13:07
DaemonFCyeah, not the shit they sell at KrogerAug 03 13:08
oiaohmPeople who have only eaten super market have no clue what good beef is.Aug 03 13:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] #Cyanogen 7 or 9... hm... let's go with 9Aug 03 13:08
DaemonFCas bad as Kroger is, Walmart is even worseAug 03 13:08
oiaohmIf all I had was supper market beef I most likely would eat more chicken and other meats.Aug 03 13:08
DaemonFCground chuck went on sale at Walmart really cheap one year, so I decided to make a pot of chili out of itAug 03 13:08
oiaohmThe butter near me also does smoked with pineapple.Aug 03 13:09
oiaohmButcherAug 03 13:09
DaemonFCit ended up being so tough you couldn't chew itAug 03 13:09
DaemonFCI ended up eating around the meatAug 03 13:09
DaemonFCI try planning my meals around what I can get a good deal onAug 03 13:10
DaemonFCbetween ALDI and Amazon this month (few sales at Kroger), I'm looking at just over $120 projected for this month's grocery billAug 03 13:11
DaemonFCand I used to be able to pull that off without any tricksAug 03 13:12
DaemonFCthey've inched the prices up gradually to the point where $150 spent at Walmart now gets you about the same amount of stuff that $100 did back in 2004Aug 03 13:12
DaemonFCI know part of that is the Central Banking Theft taking its tollAug 03 13:13
DaemonFCbut of course there are other factors in play hereAug 03 13:13
DaemonFCwhat's interesting is that they'll tell you "Oh, well, you only need this much of a raise because inflation only went up 3% this year", but you go to the store and everything has gone up 4-5% at leastAug 03 13:14
DaemonFCand a lot of people are actually not getting raises each year, not even some lowball "cost of living" raiseAug 03 13:14
DaemonFCand so everyone feels the hurt, it's just a matter of how muchAug 03 13:15
iophkExtortion continuesAug 03 13:15
iophkhttp://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20120802-724132.htmlhttp://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20120802-724132.htmlAug 03 13:15
iophkhttp://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20120802-724132.htmlAug 03 13:15
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DaemonFCeven people who get raises that are supposed to be keeping up with inflation or maybe a point or two on top of that are really feeling the hurtAug 03 13:15
iophkhttp://seattletimes.com/html/microsoftpri0/2018832975_microsoft_and_honeywell_reach_patent_agreement_ove.htmlAug 03 13:16
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DaemonFCmy aunt is finally to the point where she's on Social Security retirement and they give her whatever the "consumer price index" says it did that year as a raiseAug 03 13:16
DaemonFCthat is a total crockAug 03 13:16
DaemonFCthey manipulate that and they toss things into their calculations that nobody on Social Security pensions will ever buyAug 03 13:17
iophkAgain the terms of the patent extortion are kept under wraps.Aug 03 13:17
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1841164Aug 03 13:18
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Does #Archlinux need a new slogan? http://marcelgommans.wordpress.com/2012/08/01/does-archlinux-need-a-new-slogan/ #gnu #linuxAug 03 13:18
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schestowitz"I haven't had a chance to try out the new install method, but if it's that big of a deal, there will be a project to replace it. That's kind of how the gpl'd world works."Aug 03 13:18
DaemonFCif they want to do an honest calculation of what pensioners need to maintain their buying power, they shouldn't be doing national averages and they should only be counting things that most retired people buyAug 03 13:18
DaemonFCthey should say "In Indiana, rent and gas went up this much, electricity rates stayed where they were, milk, bread, eggs, butter, and coffee all did this"Aug 03 13:19
DaemonFCmaybe you could do consumable commodities on a national averageAug 03 13:19
DaemonFCbut rent, utilities, and gasoline vary wildly depending on the state you're inAug 03 13:19
DaemonFCmakes me wonder how a person would EVER get by on pension in a place like New York or CaliforniaAug 03 13:19
DaemonFCif you worked in Indiana all your life and they base your retirement on what your average wages here were, then you move to California, you're hosedAug 03 13:20
DaemonFCa person who worked in California and draws a pension based on that, who moved to Indiana would be doing very well :)Aug 03 13:21
DaemonFCthe standard of living is not much different, but the cost sure isAug 03 13:22
DaemonFCCalifornia is fighting off Walmart because Walmart wants to move in there and lowball their wagesAug 03 13:22
DaemonFCpeople are rejecting wages that they could never hope to live on, and I don't blame themAug 03 13:22
DaemonFCfrom now on I'll probably just get the things I was buying at Walmart in case pack shipments from AmazonAug 03 13:24
schestowitziophk: thanks, will blog it..Aug 03 13:24
DaemonFCit's cheaper anyway and I don't have to get stuck in line behind a row of Jerry Springer rejectsAug 03 13:24
DaemonFCschestowitz: ALDI changed their peanut butter supplier :(Aug 03 13:25
DaemonFCI had a jar in my pantry that I went to open to make peanut butter toast this morningAug 03 13:25
DaemonFCsickengly sweet :PAug 03 13:25
DaemonFCI sent an email to ALDI about that, they forward those to the supplier apparentlyAug 03 13:26
DaemonFCI get odd looks when I go to ALDI for things like cereal and toaster pastries and suchAug 03 13:26
DaemonFCI just pick up an entire box off the pallet and shove it in the cartAug 03 13:27
DaemonFCI don't see a reason to dick around buying one or two of something that won't go bad for yearsAug 03 13:27
iophkObviously there is something to hide about the content of the dealsAug 03 13:43
iophkhttp://www.marketwatch.com/story/honeywell-introduces-first-android-based-enterprise-digital-assistant-2012-08-02Aug 03 13:43
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iophkAndroid companies are falling for the divide and conquer tactic.Aug 03 13:43
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1841230Aug 03 13:45
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Valve: #Linux runs our games faster than #Vista7 http://www.zdnet.com/valve-linux-runs-our-games-faster-than-windows-7-7000002060/ it is also free to install, doesn't spy on you, etc.Aug 03 13:45
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schestowitz"Ok....but i'm tired of this "breaking news" :)"Aug 03 13:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] RT @grote Mr. @kirschner was so kind to publish #CyanogenMod instructions for #Sony #Xperia Pro http://bit.ly/RnPE63Aug 03 13:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] RT @grote I'm currently giving a mini #FreeYourAndroid workshop for @3reik and @kirschner more to come soon! :) #FYAAug 03 13:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Batman retired [IMG] http://identi.ca/url/73024766Aug 03 13:49
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DaemonFCschestowitz: I'm thinking of getting a bullhorn and protesting on election day.Aug 03 13:53
DaemonFCVermin Supreme styleAug 03 13:53
DaemonFChttps://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e3/Vermin_Supreme_glitterbombs_Randall_Terry.jpgAug 03 13:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] #CyanogenMod now working. Starting to look at the settings. Applications look much better than before without all the non-!fsAug 03 14:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] .@3rik got a phone with a micro sd card with IO errors #freeyourandroid with some hardware problemsAug 03 14:33
DaemonFCR. Farmer says:Aug 03 14:37
DaemonFCI guess that there's a few good things to come out of the run on Chick Fil A. The amount of Chicken Bigot sales has generated a massive amount of sales tax revenue from a group that is largely comprised of Tea Party tax protesters.Aug 03 14:37
DaemonFCAlso, today is the "gay kiss in". We have freedom of speech too, and I assume that at least some people who might claim to support freedom of expression will be disgusted by this and get up and leave the restaurant. I wouldn't be surprised if the police might even be in to beat and pepper spray the peaceful protesters, as they are often known to do.Aug 03 14:37
DaemonFCThis is an act of civil disobedience. Welcome to America. Aug 03 14:37
DaemonFC:)Aug 03 14:39
DaemonFCschestowitz: Do you think that Chick Fil A will call out the police to beat up the protesters?Aug 03 14:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Three Strikes Anti-Piracy Budget “Too Expensive To Justify” Says Minister http://is.gd/UrP5TTAug 03 14:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] IT Support Pro Tells Why He Hates Live Chat http://is.gd/fFKWhrAug 03 14:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Outdated Compulsory Licensing Means Australian Schools Must Pay Millions To Use Free Internet Materials http://is.gd/LsRsDOAug 03 14:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Learning the hard way: music service Wahwah.fm killed by license costs http://is.gd/mdgM7vAug 03 14:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] RT @thistleweb Three Strikes Anti-Piracy Budget “Too Expensive To Justify” Says Minister http://is.gd/UrP5TTAug 03 14:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] http://is.gd/j2V8nc lolAug 03 14:46
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DaemonFChttp://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/images/wcower7.gifAug 03 14:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Are Games 'a disaster' for London businesses http://is.gd/yrInP6 #London2012Aug 03 14:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Video Embedding Site Isn't Contributory Copyright Infringer, Sideloading Could Be Direct Infringement - http://bit.ly/M8EhBd (v @villoks)Aug 03 14:49
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DaemonFChttp://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2012/Pres/Maps/Aug03.html#item-1Aug 03 14:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Save the Arctic - Stop #Shell - http://bit.ly/QzyiIz can we trust it? I thought not...Aug 03 14:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 3/8/2012: Linux 3.6 RC1, KDE 4.9 in Chakra http://identi.ca/url/73025302 #techrightsAug 03 14:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Avaaz - Save the Arctic - Stop Shell .::. Size~: 31.85 KBAug 03 14:51
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DaemonFCwhen you throw in a representative mix of the population by polling people with cell phones, Obama comes out 10 points aheadAug 03 14:51
DaemonFCyeah.... this is because most pollsters still only call landlines and talk to the 60+ crowd that still have most of themAug 03 14:52
schestowitz[13:53] <DaemonFC> schestowitz: I'm thinking of getting a bullhorn and protesting on election day.Aug 03 14:52
schestowitzor tweets itAug 03 14:52
schestowitzmore audienceAug 03 14:52
schestowitzmore impactAug 03 14:52
schestowitzprotest for the world before the WWWAug 03 14:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #TimeOut #london To Go Free - http://bit.ly/N7LS0p huge vote for the free model, especially after #eveningstandard successAug 03 14:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Twitter spoof account legal action dropped by Northcliffe http://is.gd/psZIST #DailyMail for once realised their bullshit was'nt workingAug 03 14:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Privilegien für EU-Beamte: Brüssels Bürokraten kassieren in der Krise - http://bit.ly/M8G6xZ absurd double standardsAug 03 14:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] if the #DailyMail really believed it was causing harm they shouln't have backed down, the problem was that was a bullshit asserstionAug 03 14:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] I love the #DailyMail whining about it causing alarm and stress - that's EXACTLY what they dish out in their rag every day to othersAug 03 14:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Seven years after Nature, pilot study compares Wikipedia favorably to other encyclopedias in three languages - http://bit.ly/QK8cQd so thereAug 03 14:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] "unrelenting flow of derogatory and degrading comments of questionable legality" yep, that's the average edition of the #DailyMailAug 03 14:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Q2: 68% Of All Smartphones Shipped Were #Android; #China’s The Biggest Market By A Wide Margin - http://tcrn.ch/MCQ8Ex the one that countsAug 03 14:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] ARRRRR: The European Pirate Summit 2012 returns to Cologne in September - http://tnw.co/MUElpA time to sort out policies, thenAug 03 14:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] we should thank the #DailyMail for all the free advertising they gave to the spoof account, as well as the extra support it gainedAug 03 14:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] HuffPo, The Daily and the flawed iPad content model - http://bit.ly/Ror19k yupAug 03 14:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] UK judges quietly declare text chat can be obscene - http://bit.ly/M8H3qa this will be disastrous for free speechAug 03 15:01
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DaemonFChttp://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Latest-News-Wires/2012/0803/Vt.-man-accused-of-crushing-7-cop-cars-with-tractor-due-in-courtAug 03 15:02
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DaemonFCthat doesn't do anything useful, they'll just use your tax money to buy seven new cop carsAug 03 15:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Washington's press is the cabin boy of the political class – do quote me on that http://is.gd/NOdO3pAug 03 15:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] The best way to get angry with the #DailyMail? Don't buy it http://is.gd/449hfkAug 03 15:04
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DaemonFC DaemonFCAug 03 15:05
DaemonFCThat doesn't do anything useful. The thugs will just use your tax money to buy seven brand new pig cruisers for about half a million bucks.Aug 03 15:05
DaemonFCIf you really want to be creative, look at that guy in Ireland who sprayed the town hall with pig manure.Aug 03 15:05
DaemonFCIt gets the point across without costing taxpayers so much money, although the state still might put you in jail for it.Aug 03 15:06
DaemonFCschestowitz: How many teats a Holstein got?Aug 03 15:07
DaemonFC:)Aug 03 15:07
DaemonFChttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_TuttleAug 03 15:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Israel losing international support, says British ambassador - http://bit.ly/NQdNWm significant shift, or just window dressing? #palestineAug 03 15:08
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formic_Arch Linux is officially behind FedoraAug 03 15:08
formic_Kernel: 3.5.0-2.fc17.x86_64Aug 03 15:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] "Don't hate JavaScript. It's our generation's Apple II." combined with his game http://www.phoboslab.org/xtype/ tells... http://b1t.it/bR2yAug 03 15:09
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schestowitz!google !anaheim police brutalityAug 03 15:16
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Police Brutality in Anaheim Sparks Outrage After 2 Latinos Shot ... | http://www.democracynow.org/2012/7/24/police_brutality_in_anaheim_sparks_outrageAug 03 15:16
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Anaheim police brutality provokes riots in California - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DVR67yRQdOloAug 03 15:16
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - 'Anaheim police brutality systematic, goes on for generations ... | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DkTESAdb8Uo4%26feature%3DplcpAug 03 15:16
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Police, protesters clash as tensions roil Anaheim - Los Angeles Times | http://articles.latimes.com/2012/jul/25/local/la-me-0725-anaheim-shooting-20120725Aug 03 15:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Double Jeopardy - http://slate.me/NXym0k "rich and powerful can hire body doubles to do their prison time". wait, what? #chinaAug 03 15:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Ubuntu from Android demo video http://identi.ca/url/73025521 #android #linux #ubuntuAug 03 15:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] RT @glynmoody #Israel losing international support, says British ambassador - http://bit.ly/NQdNWm significant shift, or just window dre ...Aug 03 15:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] #Israel losing international support, says British ambassador - http://bit.ly/NQdNWm significant shift, or just window dressing? !PalestineAug 03 15:18
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formic_I managed to try out debian unstable and even that had obsolete softwareAug 03 15:20
Diablo-D3lol Aug 03 15:20
Diablo-D3formic_ thinks he can get away with trollingAug 03 15:20
Diablo-D3lolololAug 03 15:20
formic_trolling?Aug 03 15:20
formic_I experimented with distros over the last few weeks trying to find something that was more bleeding edge than FedoraAug 03 15:21
Diablo-D3you mean cutting edgeAug 03 15:21
Diablo-D3you'd need to compile everything from git yourself if you wanted bleeding edgeAug 03 15:21
formic_well theres fedora rawhide which already does thatAug 03 15:22
Diablo-D3yes, and thats badAug 03 15:22
Diablo-D3you never want to run software from git unless you're personally involved in developmentAug 03 15:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Here: This Is What a REAL Girl Geek Looks Like http://identi.ca/url/73025566 the media changes what the word "geek" means, like "hacker"Aug 03 15:23
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formic_true but you know most distros don't even carry the latest released stable version of softwareAug 03 15:23
Diablo-D3with rare exceptions, debian unstable doesAug 03 15:24
formic_how long till distros have KDE 4.9Aug 03 15:24
formic_opensuse 12.2 won't have it, and its not even out yetAug 03 15:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Vijay Kumar wins silver in the 25m rapid fire pistol event :-) #india #OlympicsAug 03 15:24
Diablo-D3kde upstream typically ships broken softwareAug 03 15:24
Diablo-D3so it might be awhileAug 03 15:24
formic_not reallyAug 03 15:25
formic_with kde, the latest released version includes the security updates and they don't backportAug 03 15:25
Diablo-D3yes really, distros have to sit down and fix all the problems before they can ship itAug 03 15:25
formic_Fedora has one blocker for 4.9Aug 03 15:25
Diablo-D3there have been cases where it wouldnt even compileAug 03 15:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Penguin Pete is fighting to save the word "geek" http://identi.ca/url/73025584 http://identi.ca/url/73025585Aug 03 15:26
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formic_it really depends on the packager though tooAug 03 15:26
formic_the fedora kde team is superb and they make sure shit works and always end up with the latest kdeAug 03 15:26
formic_the xfce team is still rolling 4.8 not 4.10Aug 03 15:27
formic_some distros make you wait for a firefox upgradeAug 03 15:28
Diablo-D3debian's iceweasel team packages firefox nightly.Aug 03 15:28
formic_thats good for debian, others aren't as good.Aug 03 15:28
formic_opensuse is terrible because they add so much shit to theirsAug 03 15:28
Diablo-D3there is no reason to use any distro but debianAug 03 15:29
formic_I tried debian and I was liking it but shit was too old even in unstableAug 03 15:29
formic_I haven't tried experimental thoughAug 03 15:29
Diablo-D3there you go again with the trollingAug 03 15:29
formic_im being seriousAug 03 15:30
Diablo-D3xfce 4.10 just came out in late aprilAug 03 15:30
Diablo-D3the previous version was 4.8, not 4.9Aug 03 15:30
schestowitzhttp://www.muktware.com/4073/apple-new-sco-samsung-files-motion-stike-apples-proposed-sanctionsAug 03 15:31
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schestowitzGreat reporting, where it matters the most. This is what real news sites should do.Aug 03 15:31
Diablo-D3xfce is a large codebase, and it needs to be audited by the debian xfce team firstAug 03 15:32
formic_are you sure?Aug 03 15:32
Diablo-D3yesAug 03 15:32
formic_unstable looks like it has kernel 3.2Aug 03 15:32
Diablo-D3debian audits kernels.Aug 03 15:32
Diablo-D3also, remember 3.x is just the new 2.6.xAug 03 15:33
formic_im running 3.5Aug 03 15:33
Diablo-D3minor versions in 3.x are the same as extra versions in 2.6.xAug 03 15:33
Diablo-D3the difference between 3.2 and 3.5 is the same as 2.6.42 and 2.6.45Aug 03 15:33
formic_upstream auditing is fine with meAug 03 15:33
Diablo-D3and btw, xfce 4.10 IS in experimentalAug 03 15:34
Diablo-D3so that shuts down your argumentAug 03 15:34
formic_4.10 is in rawhide tooAug 03 15:34
oiaohmformic_: fedora live by the sword die by the sword appliesAug 03 15:35
formic_I also recall debian refusing to carry mate, is that true?Aug 03 15:35
Diablo-D3whats mate?Aug 03 15:36
formic_the gnome 2 forkAug 03 15:36
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Diablo-D3debian is a non-profit organizationAug 03 15:36
Diablo-D3if you want mate to be packaged, do it yourself.Aug 03 15:37
oiaohmformic_: there is a issue with MateAug 03 15:37
formic_I think the arguement was over code duplicationAug 03 15:37
oiaohmformic_: there is a repo outside main line debian with mate.Aug 03 15:37
Diablo-D3and mate is fucktardedAug 03 15:37
Diablo-D3why would anyone want to preserve gnome 2Aug 03 15:37
formic_oiaohm: Fedora is going to package itAug 03 15:37
Diablo-D3just use xfce alreadyAug 03 15:37
oiaohmformic_: Mate uses some old not maintained libaries.Aug 03 15:37
formic_gnome/mate is better than xfceAug 03 15:37
oiaohmformic_: Fedora will package anything.Aug 03 15:37
oiaohmformic_: almostAug 03 15:37
oiaohmformic_: serousally they are not picky.Aug 03 15:37
Diablo-D3formic_: diaf.Aug 03 15:38
Diablo-D3we dont need trolls hereAug 03 15:38
formic_oiaohm: as long as its free software, doesn't bundle system libs and there are no legal issues, yesAug 03 15:38
formic_funny how if i argue with your opinion it turns me into a trollAug 03 15:38
oiaohmformic_: in fact the Mate desktop guys are still in talks with debian developersAug 03 15:39
oiaohmformic_: there are particular libraries debian maintainers don't want to see.Aug 03 15:39
formic_a troll is someone who tries to piss someone off, im being completely serious and this *is* my opinionAug 03 15:39
formic_oiaohm: Fedora made MATE remove nyancatAug 03 15:39
formic_legal issues, lolAug 03 15:39
oiaohmBonobo ORBIT both Debian want to see gone forever.Aug 03 15:40
oiaohmThere is like over 2000 bugs known in them.Aug 03 15:40
oiaohmYes some of the old Gnome 2 libraries are truly crap.Aug 03 15:40
Diablo-D3yes, and this is why xfce existsAug 03 15:41
formic_so it can keep using themAug 03 15:41
Diablo-D3a fast usable desktop that can do everything gnome 2 can do and moreAug 03 15:41
oiaohmformic_: mate desktop developers understand Debian problems.Aug 03 15:41
oiaohmformic_: its on the mate desktop roadmap to get rid of the problem librariesAug 03 15:42
formic_mate desktop developers are from mintAug 03 15:42
Diablo-D3ahh, mate is doomedAug 03 15:42
Diablo-D3problem solvedAug 03 15:42
Diablo-D3fucking ubuntu losersAug 03 15:42
oiaohmformic_: since they understand exactly why debian is refusing.Aug 03 15:42
formic_xfce 4.12 might be good if they really do embrace gtk3Aug 03 15:42
oiaohmformic_: the debian rejection for now is valid.Aug 03 15:42
oiaohmformic_: its not that debian rejection will remain when the issues are fixed.Aug 03 15:43
oiaohmformic_: basically debian is more picky about stablity of parts.Aug 03 15:43
oiaohmDiablo-D3: I would not call Mint developers ubuntu Losers.Aug 03 15:43
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1841172Aug 03 15:43
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: New #Ubuntu 12.10 #Unity Concept Looks Amazing http://news.softpedia.com/news/New-Ubuntu-12-10-Unity-Concept-Looks-Amazing-284528.shtml #gnu #linuxAug 03 15:44
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schestowitzBeautiful!"Aug 03 15:44
oiaohmDiablo-D3: Mint developers are more likely to work with upstream and listen to valid feedback and take it on board.Aug 03 15:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Plenty of Fish in the Sea? - http://bit.ly/MCV6kv some glimmers of hope for rational exploitation of resources (v @BoraZ)Aug 03 15:44
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oiaohmDiablo-D3: Ubuntu core developers have an annoying habit of being deaf to problems.Aug 03 15:45
oiaohmDiablo-D3: remember Mint has also got quite pissed of with Ubuntu this is why they maintain Ubuntu and Debian versions.Aug 03 15:47
oiaohmformic_: also you are partly wrong on Mate developers.   The MATE project was started by an Arch Linux user <<Aug 03 15:48
oiaohmformic_: the ones that started Mate are Arch Linux Users.Aug 03 15:49
oiaohmformic_: yes a large number are also from Mint today.Aug 03 15:49
formic_oh, cinnamon was mintAug 03 15:49
oiaohmformic_: yep cinnanom the gnome 3 fork.Aug 03 15:54
oiaohmMate is forking off Gnome 2Aug 03 15:54
formic_cinnamon isnt a forkAug 03 15:54
formic_its just a shellAug 03 15:54
oiaohmGnome 3 shell fork to be exact.Aug 03 15:54
formic_it requires gnome3Aug 03 15:54
oiaohmformic_: it code base starts with the gnome 3 shellAug 03 15:55
oiaohmIts been altered a lot after that.Aug 03 15:55
formic_yeah but it shares all the gnome3 baseAug 03 15:55
formic_its a single package that you add to gnome3Aug 03 15:55
formic_much like unity, except unity is way biggerAug 03 15:56
formic_more packagesAug 03 15:56
formic_http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/07/unity-desktop-available-for-fedoraAug 03 15:56
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oiaohmDon't even dare compare it to unity.Aug 03 15:56
oiaohmUnity Ubuntu goes insane.Aug 03 15:57
formic_unity is better than gnome3Aug 03 15:57
oiaohmNo its not.Aug 03 15:57
oiaohmWhy it is not is Ubuntu is nuts.Aug 03 15:57
formic_it is when its on another distro, no window buttons on the leftAug 03 15:57
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oiaohmLets alter lots and lots of applications so we can put the applications menu up on the top of screen.Aug 03 15:57
oiaohmLets not pass those patches past the upstream.Aug 03 15:57
oiaohmLets then wonder why stuff don't work right.Aug 03 15:58
oiaohmThat is what ubuntu has done wth Unity.Aug 03 15:58
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formic_yeah they should push those changes upstreamAug 03 15:58
formic_i still think its a good UIAug 03 15:58
formic_notice, unity of fedora doesn't push the application menu to the top of the screenAug 03 15:58
formic_http://i.imgur.com/mZ0l7.jpgAug 03 15:59
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formic_they just need to patch out the ubuntu logo, lolAug 03 15:59
oiaohmformic_: fedora unity does not suffer from the major stablity problems.Aug 03 16:00
oiaohmformic_: Ubuntu needs some more tollerence.Aug 03 16:00
formic_yeah exactly, just other bugsAug 03 16:00
oiaohmMajor stablity issues trace to all that non upstream patching ubuntu did.Aug 03 16:01
oiaohmlibreoffice on Ubuntu at one point got really insane.Aug 03 16:01
formic_it also doesn't force empathy if you want nice integrationAug 03 16:01
formic_it integrates with pidginAug 03 16:01
oiaohmDue to libreoffice own internal toolkit.Aug 03 16:01
oiaohmthe menu was moved to top of screen.Aug 03 16:01
oiaohmBut the display of contents of menu appeared in program.Aug 03 16:02
oiaohmNice impossible disconnect so making mouse non functional back to keyboard to get around menu.Aug 03 16:02
formic_one thing im hoping for is that fedora works with valve so steam doesnt only work on ubuntuAug 03 16:02
formic_I have a hankering for left for dead 2Aug 03 16:02
oiaohmYou will still be able to chroot ubuntu inside fedora.Aug 03 16:03
formic_trueAug 03 16:03
formic_i'd rather not have to do that thoughAug 03 16:03
oiaohmvalve said they would support other Linux systems in time.Aug 03 16:03
oiaohmthey had to start somewhere.Aug 03 16:03
formic_yeahAug 03 16:03
oiaohmits not like they are having what you call a fun time.Aug 03 16:03
formic_i understand why they chose ubuntuAug 03 16:04
oiaohmI think is 200 video card bugs and counting.Aug 03 16:04
oiaohmSince they started porting the games lot needing kernel.org alterations.Aug 03 16:04
formic_nvidia and amd and intel drivers are going to improve as a resultAug 03 16:04
oiaohmAlso its seen a change in kernel.org policy.Aug 03 16:04
formic_I know valve is working with the open source intel drivers Aug 03 16:05
oiaohmNow fixes to improve major performance problems can go into stable Linux kernel branches.Aug 03 16:05
oiaohmThis is due to valve yelling.Aug 03 16:05
formic_yes =)Aug 03 16:05
formic_I would be extremely happy if half life 3 for example got a port at the same time when it comes outAug 03 16:05
formic_hl2 was one of my favorite gamesAug 03 16:06
oiaohmMinor preformance problems will not be fixed in stable kernels of course.Aug 03 16:06
oiaohmIe ones costing like 10 percent +Aug 03 16:06
Diablo-D3hl3 is a source engine game.Aug 03 16:06
formic_left for dead 2 runs faster in opengl as wellAug 03 16:06
oiaohmformic_: why is dead simple so it should.Aug 03 16:07
formic_should carry the same performance on all source engine gamesAug 03 16:07
oiaohmformic_: opengl is not the most secure beast.Aug 03 16:07
oiaohmYou know the one recently when nvidia could cause a OS breach.Aug 03 16:07
formic_its doing better than directxAug 03 16:07
oiaohmThat is becaus opengl can have the video card reading form all over ram.Aug 03 16:07
formic_due to all the consoles other than xbox using itAug 03 16:07
oiaohmdirect x has the video card only reading from decated buffer areas.Aug 03 16:08
oiaohmIe slower.Aug 03 16:08
oiaohmSo opengl games should be faster if video card drivers are written well.Aug 03 16:08
oiaohmdue to a design difference.Aug 03 16:08
Diablo-D3[11:08:02] <oiaohm> direct x has the video card only reading from decated buffer areas.Aug 03 16:09
Diablo-D3thats not true.Aug 03 16:09
Diablo-D3directx is a suite of APIs, only one of which is direct3dAug 03 16:10
formic_I have nvidia driver 304.30-1.fc17Aug 03 16:10
oiaohmDiablo-D3: direct 3d does not pull from all over application memory.Aug 03 16:10
Diablo-D3direct3d 9, which is what source uses (valve has not yet published a version of source that uses 10/11/12) allows offscreen rendering.Aug 03 16:10
Diablo-D3oiaohm: application memory is a nonsensical termAug 03 16:11
oiaohmDiablo-D3: userspace memory.Aug 03 16:11
formic_beyond my level of expertiseAug 03 16:11
Diablo-D3oiaohm: again, a nonsensical termAug 03 16:11
Diablo-D3we're talking about GPUs.Aug 03 16:11
oiaohmDiablo-D3: Its not.Aug 03 16:11
formic_I just know im glad that I won't have access to just ioquake3 and cube based FPS games soonAug 03 16:11
Diablo-D3d3d nor opengl use "userspace memory" in any way that can be construed to be what you meanAug 03 16:12
oiaohmDiablo-D3: direct x does not send the instructions to the GPU to pull from where ever.  Where opengl will.Aug 03 16:12
oiaohmDiablo-D3: now if that goes wrong opengl can cause a very big security hole.Aug 03 16:12
Diablo-D3I think you need to learn how the system works.Aug 03 16:13
oiaohmDMA memory accessing.Aug 03 16:13
oiaohmYou can set up instructions to allow lots of access Aug 03 16:13
Diablo-D3You do realize I know more about the driver HAL than you ever will, right?Aug 03 16:13
oiaohmFrom a video card,  network card, firewire card these have all been used to create secuirty holes.Aug 03 16:14
formic_I think he is talking about direct access to hardwareAug 03 16:14
Diablo-D3direct3D reads from system memory.Aug 03 16:14
Diablo-D3otherwise you could never add anything to the machine stateAug 03 16:14
Diablo-D3no vertex lists, no textures, no shadersAug 03 16:14
oiaohmDiablo-D3: simple question do before VT-D by intel.  Does a card in your comptuer need OS approve to read all of ram.Aug 03 16:15
formic_and as far as I know, d3d does get direct video card accessAug 03 16:15
Diablo-D3formic_: again, thats a nonsensical termAug 03 16:15
oiaohmDiablo-D3: the answer is no it does not.Aug 03 16:15
Diablo-D3the driver does what the driver does.Aug 03 16:15
oiaohmDiablo-D3: all it needs it to know where the memory it needs is.Aug 03 16:15
Diablo-D3oiaohm: again, you're bringing up unrelated things.Aug 03 16:15
oiaohmDiablo-D3: No I am not.Aug 03 16:15
Diablo-D3This has nothing to do with L4D speed.Aug 03 16:16
formic_I remember when vista came out, sound card companies were freaking out that they didn't get direct access to the hardware anymoreAug 03 16:16
oiaohmDiablo-D3: I am bringing up what opengl by Nvidia and ATI on windows and Linux has been exploiting for speed.Aug 03 16:16
formic_they had to use software layersAug 03 16:16
formic_im sure im getting the terminology wrongAug 03 16:16
Diablo-D3formic_: you areAug 03 16:16
formic_there was no kernel sound driversAug 03 16:16
Diablo-D3formic_: microsoft created a driver hal for the system, all drivers must use itAug 03 16:16
oiaohmDiablo-D3: baiscally lets bipass OS secuirty.Aug 03 16:16
Diablo-D3this is actually a good thing, most drivers were fucking shitAug 03 16:16
Diablo-D3oiaohm: this has nothing to do with L4DAug 03 16:16
formic_yesAug 03 16:17
Diablo-D3go troll elsewhereAug 03 16:17
formic_sblive used to bsod so muchAug 03 16:17
oiaohmDiablo-D3: it does why L4D is faster on opengl then direct x.Aug 03 16:17
formic_oiaohm: not reallyAug 03 16:17
Diablo-D3oiaohm: I CODE USING OPENGL, I HAVE DONE SO FOR THE BETTER PART OF A DECADEAug 03 16:17
oiaohmDiablo-D3: there are a few extra cycles on the direct x path to maintain OS in charage.Aug 03 16:17
formic_oiaohm: opengl must go through D3D on windows vista/7Aug 03 16:17
Diablo-D3TRUST ME WHEN I SAY YOU ARE SPEWING BULLSHITAug 03 16:17
Diablo-D3formic_: no.Aug 03 16:17
formic_thats what i've been told, its emulated in a wayAug 03 16:18
Diablo-D3oiaohm: IOMMU SUPPORT DOES NOT REQUIRE GUEST OS PARTICIPATIONAug 03 16:18
oiaohmformic_: MS had that idea on Vista.  Result ATI and NVidia refused to release drivers to change point.Aug 03 16:18
Diablo-D3formic_: no, it uses a central shared HAL path that both gl and d3d pass throughAug 03 16:18
formic_that makes more senseAug 03 16:18
Diablo-D3formic_: its identical to what amd and nvidia were already doingAug 03 16:19
Diablo-D3microsoft's version just has more hooks in it so the OS can control the hardware betterAug 03 16:19
formic_so it was fearmongering that I was hearing before vista came out thenAug 03 16:19
Diablo-D3yes, just fearmongeringAug 03 16:19
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oiaohmDiablo-D3: and in fact if you monitor current day ATI and Nvidia cards in operation you find out the data stored in HAL is out of alignment with what is in video card when they are running opengl.Aug 03 16:20
formic_ok well ill shut up now, i dont know enough to contributeAug 03 16:20
Diablo-D3without hooks in the HAL between the driver's GL impl and the driver, there'd be no, for example, display server restarting while GL apps were runningAug 03 16:20
Diablo-D3oiaohm: please lay off the crack.Aug 03 16:20
oiaohmDiablo-D3: its an optimisation.Aug 03 16:20
Diablo-D3L4D does not use any optimizations that are relevant here.Aug 03 16:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Going the dutchies monthly meet and greet in Munich this evening. Should be fun.Aug 03 16:21
oiaohmIts a optimisation in Opengl provided libraries.  L4D hit a code path where it comes in.Aug 03 16:21
Diablo-D3and what the fuck does "out of alignment" mean? the data is aligned, the driver itself already handles thing correctlyAug 03 16:21
Diablo-D3oiaohm: opengl is an api, not a library.Aug 03 16:21
oiaohmOpengl provide Libraries. Ie the Nvidia ATI libraries for opengl support.Aug 03 16:22
Diablo-D3those are driver specific implementationsAug 03 16:22
Diablo-D3the khronos group does not provide them.Aug 03 16:23
formic_im just gonna be happy to play LFD2 on linux without wine, i dont care how they get it doneAug 03 16:23
Diablo-D3formic_: its going to end up being all the source gamesAug 03 16:23
Diablo-D3oiaohm: L4D's opengl pipeline atm is identical to the D3D9 oneAug 03 16:24
Diablo-D3it does not use any newer extensions that would be useful hereAug 03 16:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] TechBytes Episode 73: Richard Stallman on Corporate Secrecy and US Politics http://identi.ca/url/73026086 #TechBytes #TechrightsAug 03 16:24
formic_=) even betterAug 03 16:24
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Diablo-D3the reason, even on windows, the opengl pipeline is faster is because D3D sucks.Aug 03 16:25
Diablo-D3its shit code.Aug 03 16:25
formic_yes exactlyAug 03 16:25
Diablo-D3it has nothing to do with opengl being a superior APIAug 03 16:25
oiaohmDiablo-D3: I was not saying opengl being a superior API.Aug 03 16:25
Diablo-D3someone could write a D3D impl that didn't suck and it would be just as fast.Aug 03 16:25
Diablo-D3oiaohm: trust me, it is.Aug 03 16:25
formic_you don't think that consoles use of opengl isn't making it better?Aug 03 16:25
Diablo-D3formic_: no.Aug 03 16:26
oiaohmDiablo-D3: I was saying the implementations in opengl are expoiting options the video card can do to get higher speed as well.Aug 03 16:26
formic_i guess since they aren't updating anything you're rightAug 03 16:26
Diablo-D3wii does not use opengl, ps3 offers opengl but all it does is run on the nvidia chip (thus 90% of the graphics power is locked away), and xbox has a third party ogl-on-d3d wrapperAug 03 16:26
oiaohmDiablo-D3: some come with some risk of secuirty holes.Aug 03 16:26
Diablo-D3oiaohm: you're an idiot.Aug 03 16:26
formic_what does wii use?Aug 03 16:27
Diablo-D3they're not exploiting anythingAug 03 16:27
Diablo-D3formic_: direct gpu programmingAug 03 16:27
Diablo-D3formic_: the gpu is sorta just a "gamecube 2.0" gpuAug 03 16:27
Diablo-D3infact, thats pretty much the entire wiiAug 03 16:27
formic_hmmAug 03 16:27
Diablo-D3oiaohm: making things fast on opengl is not a simple taskAug 03 16:27
formic_same thing for 3DS too then?Aug 03 16:28
Diablo-D3you have to understand how GPU worksAug 03 16:28
Diablo-D3formic_: yesAug 03 16:28
formic_I've played some 3DS games where the graphics look somewhere between Gamecube and WiiAug 03 16:28
formic_better than Wii actually in some things but I assume the lower res helpsAug 03 16:28
oiaohmDiablo-D3: I did not say you did not need to understand how a GPU works.   Its not the GPU where the speed difference is in fact in the L4D case.  Its the memory transfer options.  Some transfer options direct x does not use.Aug 03 16:29
formic_Diablo-D3: do you play any consoles or 3ds?Aug 03 16:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Talk Talk ISP have phoned me several times a week for the past couple of months about the same thing. Each person thinks it is new. #ArsesAug 03 16:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fsf/@fsf] ZaReason supports the !FSF statement against Restricted Boot: http://www.fsf.org/campaigns/secure-boot-vs-restricted-boot/statementAug 03 16:29
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Diablo-D3oiaohm: ITS NOT THE FUCKING MEMORY TRANSFER SHITAug 03 16:29
oiaohmDiablo-D3: they are the same transfer options that created the recent Linux kernel secuirty flaw.Aug 03 16:30
Diablo-D3L4D ADDS DATA TO THE STATE MACHINE _ONCE_Aug 03 16:30
Diablo-D3IT UPLOADS TEXTURES _ONCE_Aug 03 16:30
Diablo-D3IT UPLOADS VERTEX DATA _ONCE_Aug 03 16:30
Diablo-D3IT UPLOADS SHADERS _ONCE_Aug 03 16:30
Diablo-D3ALL OF THIS IS HANDLED BY THE DRIVER ITSELFAug 03 16:30
Diablo-D3THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT YOU HAVE DIRECT ACCESS TO VIA A HIGH LEVEL API SUCH AS D3D OR GLAug 03 16:31
oiaohmDiablo-D3: and in the opengl implementaation that takes less time.Aug 03 16:31
Diablo-D3you know whatAug 03 16:31
Diablo-D3I give upAug 03 16:31
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1841164Aug 03 16:31
Diablo-D3believe whatever the fuck you want to believeAug 03 16:31
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Diablo-D3I dont fucking care.Aug 03 16:31
oiaohmDiablo-D3: I am not kiding currenty to transfer all that stuff up takes less time.Aug 03 16:31
formic_the recent nvidia kernel vuln doesn't sound anything like what oiaohm is talking aboutAug 03 16:31
formic_http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.security.full-disclosure/86747Aug 03 16:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: nvidia linux binary driver priv escalation exploit .::. Size~: 5.82 KBAug 03 16:31
formic_"It basically abuses the fact that the /dev/nvidia0 device acceptAug 03 16:32
formic_changes to the VGA window and moves the window around until it canAug 03 16:32
formic_read/write to somewhere useful in physical RAM, then it just does anAug 03 16:32
formic_priv escalation by writing directly to kernel memory."Aug 03 16:32
Diablo-D3oiaohm: d3d has a higher per function call overhead.Aug 03 16:32
Diablo-D3d3d is shit code.Aug 03 16:32
Diablo-D3this has _absolutely nothing to do with anything you have brought up_Aug 03 16:32
formic_it doesn't even mention openglAug 03 16:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Olympics Shuts Down Non-Commercial Online Service That Helped People Get Tickets - http://bit.ly/NXDrpc #london2012 gold medal for bullyingAug 03 16:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Olympics Shuts Down Non-Commercial Online Service That Helped People Get Tickets | Techdirt .::. Size~: 37.1 KBAug 03 16:33
oiaohmformic_: yep "VGA window and moves the window around"  Lets walk where the video card reads and writes memory around the system and have the video card do the read and write request so avoiding cpu.Aug 03 16:34
formic_oiaohm: doesn't require openglAug 03 16:35
oiaohmformic_: and in the result can avlod hal to a extent as well.Aug 03 16:35
oiaohmformic_: opengl libraries are exploiting that little fact.Aug 03 16:35
formic_avoiding cpu? you are denseAug 03 16:35
oiaohmYou don't avoid the memory controller.Aug 03 16:36
oiaohmin the cpu.Aug 03 16:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jrepin/@jrepin] RT @fsf ZaReason supports the !FSF statement against Restricted Boot: http://www.fsf.org/campaigns/secure-boot-vs-restricted-boot/statementAug 03 16:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] RT @grote How to use custom ringtones and notifications in your #Android device. I wrote a short piece for the #CyanogenMod wiki http:// ...Aug 03 16:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Stand up for your freedom to install free software — Free Software Foundation — working together for free software .::. Size~: 45.57 KBAug 03 16:36
formic_dont assume thatAug 03 16:36
oiaohmformic_: Its works out to less cpu cycles to have the gpu do the pull.  Than have the cpu push.Aug 03 16:38
oiaohmformic_: end result is same data in video card.Aug 03 16:39
oiaohmformic_: yes two ways to skin the same cat.Aug 03 16:39
oiaohmformic_: also can avoid context switchAug 03 16:40
Diablo-D3formic_: oiaohm is on drugs, ignore himAug 03 16:40
oiaohmDiablo-D3: No I am not.  Its just one of the oddities at the moment.Aug 03 16:41
Diablo-D3in modern gpus, the cpu never pushes bulk data to the gpuAug 03 16:41
Diablo-D3it just sends it an address and the gpu pulls it when it needs itAug 03 16:41
oiaohmDiablo-D3: sections of direct x still push.Aug 03 16:41
Diablo-D3the command buffer is pushedAug 03 16:42
oiaohmDiablo-D3: from the cpu.Aug 03 16:42
Diablo-D3thats not bulk dataAug 03 16:42
Diablo-D3oiaohm: and quit saying "of directx"Aug 03 16:42
Diablo-D3directx is forced to do whatever the driver doesAug 03 16:42
Diablo-D3the driver does it identically for d3d and ogl.Aug 03 16:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] New Photos of #Mozilla's Mobile OS Have Arrived Online - http://bit.ly/Qn745s clean, simpleAug 03 16:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: New Photos of Mozilla's Mobile OS Have Arrived Online .::. Size~: 38.66 KBAug 03 16:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Fencing gold medal winner Limardo takes public transport - http://bbc.in/M9308m wearing medal; amazing story from every viewpoint #humanityAug 03 16:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Harvard goes PaaS with SELinux Sandbox http://identi.ca/url/73026283 #harvard #selinux #linuxAug 03 16:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BBC News - Fencing gold medal winner Limardo takes public transport .::. Size~: 79.6 KBAug 03 16:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Harvard University creates PaaS using SELinux Sandbox | opensource.com .::. Size~: 52.45 KBAug 03 16:49
oiaohmDiablo-D3: Not exactly.   The thing is the userspace driver library of opengl triggers the gpu to pull without context switching to kernel mode.  Its a reality d3d is using the driver more.Aug 03 16:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] interesting the "lock in" mentioned is only at the cloud (non-local-Microsoft) end http://is.gd/c6Grfi anticipating a failed move & returnAug 03 16:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Lock-in, Migration Costs Can Put a Damper on Cloud Projects, Says ISACA | PCWorld Business Center .::. Size~: 79.35 KBAug 03 16:51
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DaemonFC"People have a free speech right to shave their head and tattoo a swastika and "666" on their forehead. Will they have employment problems? Probably.Aug 03 16:53
DaemonFCJust because the government can't interfere with what you say, does not mean it is necessarily a good idea to say it."Aug 03 16:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Apple v. Samsung Highlights Insanity of Tech Patents http://is.gd/WvcC3uAug 03 16:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] Win custom Linux skateboard w/ words "Linux is Not a Crime" across the bottom. Learn how: http://bit.ly/ONWJhW #linuxcon #cloudopenAug 03 16:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Apple v. Samsung Highlights Insanity of Tech Patents | PCWorld Business Center .::. Size~: 83.59 KBAug 03 16:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Find 'Skater Tux' and Win Cool Linux Skateboard | Linux.com .::. Size~: 40.85 KBAug 03 16:53
DaemonFCon a forum where someone was bringing up a guy that was fired by his employer for putting a confederate flag on his truckAug 03 16:53
DaemonFC:)Aug 03 16:53
formic_DaemonFC: lolAug 03 16:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Google+ Account Suspended? You Won't Find Out Why http://is.gd/liLEmZAug 03 16:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Netflix To Try Crowdsourcing Subtitles; Will It Get Sued For Infringement? http://is.gd/CEb0COAug 03 16:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Google+ Account Suspended? You Won't Find Out Why - Slashdot .::. Size~: 107.47 KBAug 03 16:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Netflix To Try Crowdsourcing Subtitles; Will It Get Sued For Infringement? | Techdirt .::. Size~: 83.42 KBAug 03 16:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Netflix will just get another license extortion "pay us loads more cash for subtitles or we sue you" letter from the copyright cartelAug 03 16:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Let the virtual TV product placement begin http://is.gd/fQU1CUAug 03 16:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Let the virtual TV product placement begin — paidContent .::. Size~: 57.47 KBAug 03 16:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] RT @grote Two more phones now liberated from proprietary software :) #FreeYourAndroid Their owners enjoy their freedom happily #FYAAug 03 17:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Reality Check: Is #AlQaeda An Enemy Or Not? - YouTube http://goo.gl/oY3CWAug 03 17:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Ballmer's biggest blunder ever? The mis-naming of Metro - http://zd.net/T6pSpE if this proves true, how much longer can he last? #microsoftAug 03 17:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Reality Check:  Is Al-Qaeda An Enemy Or Not?       - YouTube .::. Size~: 162.4 KBAug 03 17:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ballmer's biggest blunder ever? The mis-naming of Metro | ZDNet .::. Size~: 47.92 KBAug 03 17:08
DaemonFCLOL!!!!Aug 03 17:08
DaemonFCSomeone just backed a pickup truck into one of the police cruisers across the street at the jailAug 03 17:08
DaemonFCand then drove off.....Aug 03 17:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #QPR midfielder #JoeyBarton set to sign six-month loan deal with Leage Two Fleetwood TownAug 03 17:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] That's a bad sign. I have installed a game and it isn't working, this happens. Then I remembered I had payed for it and it should do.Aug 03 17:23
koolhead17jono, pingAug 03 17:24
koolhead17schestowitz, sirAug 03 17:24
jonohey koolhead17Aug 03 17:25
koolhead17jono, seems like your bombed with too many mailsAug 03 17:25
koolhead17:)Aug 03 17:25
jonokoolhead17, yepAug 03 17:25
koolhead17i sent you a mail with event reportsAug 03 17:25
jonoI will respond to you soonAug 03 17:25
koolhead17would love to hear from uAug 03 17:25
koolhead17awesomeAug 03 17:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Activist Post: 'Top Cyber Cop' Says Internet Way Overdue For Attack http://goo.gl/6Kh5Z #falseflag #ipatriot is coming http://ur1.ca/9vj1uAug 03 17:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Activist Post: 'Top Cyber Cop' Says Internet Way Overdue For Attack .::. Size~: 216.23 KBAug 03 17:26
koolhead17schestowitz, seems llike occupied with marriage preparation ;Aug 03 17:27
koolhead17:)Aug 03 17:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @Gudrun accounts en dan identity aanpassenAug 03 17:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @netlash: Startups are the new rock bands.Aug 03 17:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Source Sans Pro: #Adobe’s First Open Source Type Family - http://bit.ly/NqFS0t that's good; more, please...Aug 03 17:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Developer has no regrets after angry letter to Zuckerberg goes viral http://is.gd/UAsb3xAug 03 17:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Europe Already Has Draft Standard For Real-Time Government Snooping On Services Like Facebook And Gmail http://is.gd/FCYy1RAug 03 17:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Europe Already Has Draft Standard For Real-Time Government Snooping On Services Like Facebook And Gmail - http://bit.ly/T6sfbO huh? #etsiAug 03 17:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Source Sans Pro: Adobe's First Open Source Type Family | Webmonkey | Wired.com .::. Size~: 48.72 KBAug 03 17:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Developer has no regrets after angry letter to Zuckerberg goes viral | The Verge .::. Size~: 98.45 KBAug 03 17:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Europe Already Has Draft Standard For Real-Time Government Snooping On Services Like Facebook And Gmail | Techdirt .::. Size~: 37.51 KBAug 03 17:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Anti-Occupy" law ends American's right to protest http://identi.ca/url/73026849 #policestate #cronycapitalismAug 03 17:43
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schestowitzkoolhead17: heyAug 03 17:44
schestowitzkoolhead17: yes, occupied with all that, speaking the past 14 hours with herAug 03 17:45
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1841642Aug 03 17:45
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: Strange powers   ![](http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m84f0smp4s1r3s5n0o1_400.jpg)   #bunniesAug 03 17:45
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schestowitz"Yeah, powers XD"Aug 03 17:45
koolhead17schestowitz, good stuff manAug 03 17:47
koolhead17carry onAug 03 17:47
koolhead17:)Aug 03 17:47
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jonoschestowitz you are getting hitched?\Aug 03 17:52
schestowitz!google julian assange cyberpunks uncut youtubeAug 03 17:53
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - RT uploaded uncut - EurAsia | http://www.eurasia.nu/modules.php%3Fname%3DForums%26file%3Dviewtopic%26topic%3D6666%26forum%3D53Aug 03 17:53
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Cypherpunks: Episode Eight, full version, pt.2 — Julian Assange | http://assange.rt.com/Aug 03 17:53
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - iTunes - Podcasts - Foreskin Radio (podcasts) by Transpondency ... | http://itunes.apple.com/gb/podcast/foreskin-radio-podcasts/id82571517Aug 03 17:53
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Anthony Ricardo Meeks | Facebook | http://www.facebook.com/anthony.r.meeksAug 03 17:53
schestowitzjono: I thought you knewAug 03 17:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] !GNU !Linuxlibre 3.2.25-gnu source tarballs and patches are now availableAug 03 17:54
jonoschestowitz congrats!Aug 03 17:55
jonomarriage is awesome :-)Aug 03 17:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Great minds have a non-BS panel http://identi.ca/url/73026970Aug 03 17:56
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DaemonFCjono: The people who like fried chicken agree with you.Aug 03 17:57
DaemonFCJust look at all those fat people standing in line with those scowls on their facesAug 03 17:57
DaemonFCthey look like they are happy with where life has taken them!Aug 03 17:58
schestowitzjono: what month of your missus?Aug 03 17:58
schestowitz*isAug 03 17:58
jonoschestowitz Nov :-)Aug 03 17:59
jonobrb callAug 03 17:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Adobe open sources its first font family - The H Open: News and Features http://goo.gl/qR7mn #fontsAug 03 18:01
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DaemonFCjono eats more "chiKKKen"Aug 03 18:02
DaemonFCmuahahahahaaaaa!Aug 03 18:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] US Congress: New initiative to combat patent trolls - The H Open: News and Features http://goo.gl/UpvI2 #patentsAug 03 18:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] As a follow-up to +glyn moody 's story at http://bit.ly/T5LSRw I received this story from +David Henry that I resha... http://b1t.it/bR63Aug 03 18:04
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Jan Wildeboer - Google+ - As a follow-up to +glyn moody 's story… .::. Size~: 193.37 KBAug 03 18:04
DaemonFCWhat is the point of those Keurig coffee makers?Aug 03 18:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Creative Commons announces new licence chooser tool - The H Open: News and Features http://goo.gl/VbaUj #ccAug 03 18:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Disk Improvements Within GNOME 3.6 http://identi.ca/url/73027104 #gnome #gnuAug 03 18:06
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] Disk Improvements Within GNOME 3.6 .::. Size~: 17.08 KBAug 03 18:06
DaemonFCwho wants to pay 60 cents for a pod of coffee?Aug 03 18:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] "The printing press taught people to read the internet taught people to write"Aug 03 18:08
schestowitzhttp://ht4u.net/news/25936_left_4_dead_2_laeuft_besser_unter_linux_als_unter_windows/Aug 03 18:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Left 4 Dead 2 läuft besser unter Linux als unter Windows - Nachrichten bei HT4U.net .::. Size~: 59.12 KBAug 03 18:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I am waiting for the disc defragmenter to finish so I can play a game. MS you are easy to dislike.Aug 03 18:11
DaemonFC"In my many years I have come to the conclusion that one useless man is a shame, two is a law firm and three or more is a congress." - John AdamsAug 03 18:13
DaemonFClolAug 03 18:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Anonymous payment by cash, claims Jacob Applebaum, are at risk now that banks scan the numbers on bills to track cash movementAug 03 18:16
scientesholy shitAug 03 18:19
scientesschestowitz, link?Aug 03 18:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The challenges of upgrading an electronic trading platform to Linux http://identi.ca/url/73027190 "Having now moved to Linux"Aug 03 18:19
TechrightsBot-trTitle: CME Group CIO - The challenges of upgrading an electronic trading platform to Linux - ComputerworldUK.com .::. Size~: 105.87 KBAug 03 18:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] I'm playing @RealAliceCooper original band albums again "Here's New Pretties..." to "Muscle of Love" <3 #justcantgetenoughAug 03 18:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] just kill one spammer on #Twitter & another turns up, 3rd tweet & already gone lol #losersAug 03 18:26
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1836797Aug 03 18:27
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: KLANG: A New# Linux Audio System For The #Kernel http://goo.gl/C4O0IAug 03 18:27
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schestowitz"Project already gone, no audio breakage this time, wow \o/"Aug 03 18:27
schestowitzscientes: Aug 03 18:27
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/url/73026970Aug 03 18:27
schestowitz[Aug 03 18:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Cypherpunks: Episode Eight, full version, pt.2 — Julian Assange .::. Size~: 16.48 KBAug 03 18:27
schestowitzoh, wrong episodeAug 03 18:28
DaemonFChttp://www.dailypaul.com/247299/facebook-admits-tens-of-millions-of-accounts-are-fakeAug 03 18:32
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Facebook Admits Tens of Millions of Accounts Are Fake | Peace . Gold . Liberty | Revolution .::. Size~: 142.29 KBAug 03 18:32
DaemonFChttp://www.myfoxny.com/story/19180366/facebook-admits-millions-of-accounts-are-fake#ixzz22Q6b0HBnAug 03 18:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Facebook admits millions of accounts are fake - New York News | New York Breaking News | NYC Headlines .::. Size~: 60.52 KBAug 03 18:33
DaemonFC"In a quarterly filing with the Securities and Exchange Commission, the social media company said that as many as 83 million of its accounts are fake."Aug 03 18:33
DaemonFC"It says 1.5 percent of its accounts are likely spam or accounts set up for other malicious activity.  The fake accounts are concentrated in developing markets, according to the filing.Aug 03 18:34
DaemonFCIt also blames people who set up accounts for non-human entities, such as pets."Aug 03 18:34
DaemonFCand Republicans....Aug 03 18:34
DaemonFC"Kill A Queer For Jesus is using Facebook to share Chik Fil A with you!"Aug 03 18:35
DaemonFCoh my!Aug 03 18:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Disclosure of #copyright-protected information under FOI not a breach of copyright law, says ICO - http://bit.ly/OO7HE7 (v @SaskiaWalzel)Aug 03 18:36
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schestowitz"Project already gone, no audio breakage this time, wow \o/"Aug 03 18:37
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1836797Aug 03 18:37
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: KLANG: A New# Linux Audio System For The #Kernel http://goo.gl/C4O0IAug 03 18:37
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schestowitz"Very, very good. I like the indicator without panel which remains visible when the window is maximized. In the dash, put Lenses on the left side instead of down." https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1841172Aug 03 18:38
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: New #Ubuntu 12.10 #Unity Concept Looks Amazing http://news.softpedia.com/news/New-Ubuntu-12-10-Unity-Concept-Looks-Amazing-284528.shtml #gnu #linuxAug 03 18:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Tell @Sainsburys and @Waitrose: No #Monsanto products in UK Supermarkets! - http://chn.ge/OxkPy4 v bad move, people (v @wendycockcroft)Aug 03 18:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Petition | Tell @Sainsburys and @Waitrose: No Monsanto products in UK Supermarkets! | Change.org .::. Size~: 64.08 KBAug 03 18:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] FUCK YOU #crapple    #boycottapple  Apple wants to rewrite history. As a geek, I find that incredibly offensive.ht... http://b1t.it/bR7YAug 03 18:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Nandan Vaidya - Google+ - FUCK YOU #crapple    #boycottapple  Apple wants to rewrite… .::. Size~: 154.09 KBAug 03 18:54
DaemonFChttp://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Opera-12-update-closes-important-security-holes-1659121.htmlAug 03 18:55
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Opera 12 update closes important security holes - The H Security: News and Features .::. Size~: 51.36 KBAug 03 18:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Three new webseries on CC's Kickstarter page. http://kck.st/M5qdt6 Must-see CC!Aug 03 18:56
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DaemonFCI'll probably hang onto my Obama shares for nowAug 03 18:57
DaemonFC"keep the powder dry"Aug 03 18:57
DaemonFCwait until it gets closer to the electionAug 03 18:57
DaemonFChopefully they'll creep up to the $8-9 range, where I will sell them offAug 03 18:58
DaemonFCif he gets elected, they are worth $10 a share (I got them for less than $5)Aug 03 18:58
DaemonFCbut if he doesn't, they're worthlessAug 03 18:58
DaemonFCso I'll wait until I think the market is peaked but get rid of them before the election just in caseAug 03 18:59
DaemonFCI'd rather make a few bucks than risk having worthless shares I can't get rid of if he does manage to loseAug 03 18:59
DaemonFC DaemonFC Aug 03 19:00
DaemonFCThe Dow is at 13,122? Not good news for Mittens.Aug 03 19:00
DaemonFCWatch the Five Thirty Eight model dip Mittens below 20% tomorrow. :)Aug 03 19:00
DaemonFCschestowitz: Partly Cloudy with a 15% chance of Mittens.Aug 03 19:03
DaemonFC"Side note: Boehner and his Republican Band of Merry Thugs are asking Bernanke to avoid stimulating the economy (which would decrease the unemployment rate a bit too) because they want a bad economy where more voters are willing to listen to the Republicans (who won't help them, but people always fall for empty promises)."Aug 03 19:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] A few days ago in Assange's show, Jacob Applebaum said that credit card details now managed by govt. strung with browser, IP address etc.Aug 03 19:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] for the long list of fuckups #Ballmer has made at the helm of #Microsoft - what did he get right? I can't think of any offhandAug 03 19:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Surveillance induces self-censorship, which induces filternet. Net #censorship is indirectly achieved by modifying behaviour through fear.Aug 03 19:08
schestowitzmittensAug 03 19:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Armed police storm Miley Cyrus's house http://is.gd/qpDn8d after prank callAug 03 19:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BBC News - Armed police storm Miley Cyrus's house .::. Size~: 75.95 KBAug 03 19:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] are the #LibDems only part of the coalition in name? http://is.gd/qFFwlq every policy seems to be a Tory oneAug 03 19:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Jitsi - *secure* Open Source Video Calls and Chat - http://bit.ly/ONtOwb looks promising (v @Beautyon_)Aug 03 19:13
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Jitsi (SIP Communicator) | Main / HomePage .::. Size~: 26.56 KBAug 03 19:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] It's 29.6°C w/humidex of 39.9°C [85.28°F humidex=103.8°F] in southern Ontario #TropicofCanada we don't need no stinkin' #climatechangeAug 03 19:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Judge Posner: Embedding Infringing Videos Is Not Copyright Infringement, And Neither Is Watching Them http://is.gd/xl6ACCAug 03 19:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #GNOME needs to go to the Moon http://identi.ca/url/73028000 #gnuAug 03 19:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] The most annoying thing abt GNU/linux are stupid notifications that pop-up @ screen top right (worse on netbook limited screen real estate)Aug 03 19:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @xavez @Choisissez "ja ma da iiiis, echt!" (ik hoor ze het al zeggen ennal ;-) )Aug 03 19:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Is usability breaking Linux adoption? http://identi.ca/url/73028055 #linuxAug 03 19:36
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schestowitz19:11] [Notice] -TRIdentica to #techrights- [thistleweb/@thistleweb] are the #LibDems only part of the coalition in name? http://is.gd/qFFwlq every policy seems to be a Tory oneAug 03 19:38
schestowitz[19:11] <TechrightsBot-tr> Title: Cameron poised to drop Lords reforms | Politics | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 338.62 KBAug 03 19:38
schestowitz[19:13] [Notice] -TRIdentica to #techrights- [glynmoody/@glynmoody] Jitsi - *secure* Open Source Video Calls and Chat - http://bit.ly/ONtOwb looks promising (v @Beautyon_)Aug 03 19:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Cameron poised to drop Lords reforms | Politics | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 338.05 KBAug 03 19:38
schestowitz[19:13] <TechrightsBot-tr> Title: Jitsi (SIP Communicator) | Main / HomePage .::. Size~: 26.56 KBAug 03 19:38
schestowitz[19:21] [Notice] -TRIdentica to #techrights- [laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] It's 29.6°C w/humidex of 39.9°C [85.28°F humidex=103.8°F] in southern Ontario #TropicofCanada we don't need no stinkin' #climatechangeAug 03 19:38
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schestowitz[19:24] <DaemonFC> schestowitz: Willard Mittens and the $77,000 Dancing Horse Tax Credit!Aug 03 19:38
schestowitz[19:24] <DaemonFC> ouch :PAug 03 19:38
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schestowitz9:33] <DaemonFC> http://www.amazon.com/Stargate-15th-Anniversary-Edition-Blu-ray/dp/B002KPINY8/ref=pd_ys_sf_s_2644980011_a1_5_pAug 03 19:38
schestowitz[19:33] <TechrightsBot-tr> Title: Amazon.com: Stargate (15th Anniversary Edition) [Blu-ray]: Kurt Russell, James Spader, Erick Avari, Alexis Cruz, Kenneth Danziger, Jaye Davidson, John Diehl, Christopher John Fields, Erik Holland, Gladys Holland, Djimon Hounsou, Richard Kind, Gianin Loffler, Jack Moore, David Pressman, Leon Rippy, Robert Ackerman, Rae Allen, John Storey, Christopher West: Movies & TV .::. Size~: 367.53 KBAug 03 19:38
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schestowitz[19:33] <DaemonFC> $5.96 on Blu RayAug 03 19:38
schestowitz[19:33] <DaemonFC> :)Aug 03 19:38
schestowitz[19:35] <DaemonFC> http://www.amazon.com/The-Fifth-Element-Remastered-Blu-ray/dp/B000QTD368/Aug 03 19:38
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schestowitz[19:35] <TechrightsBot-tr> Title: Amazon.com: The Fifth Element (Remastered) [Blu-ray]: Bruce Willis, Gary Oldman, Ian Holm, Milla Jovovich, Chris Tucker, Luc Besson: Movies & TV .::. Size~: 346 KBAug 03 19:38
schestowitz[19:36] <DaemonFC> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIW8Ioi-KewAug 03 19:38
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schestowitz[19:36] <DaemonFC> heheAug 03 19:38
DaemonFCAGGH!Aug 03 19:38
schestowitz[19:36] <DaemonFC> BIG BADDA BOOM!Aug 03 19:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Are the middle class professions levers of power?Aug 03 19:39
schestowitzyou were on the same side of the splitAug 03 19:40
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schestowitzeach had its own version of eventsAug 03 19:40
DaemonFChttp://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004XUGORG/Aug 03 19:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: : Maruchan Yakisoba Beef Taco, 8: Grocery & Gourmet Food .::. Size~: 403.84 KBAug 03 19:41
DaemonFCjust ordered one of theseAug 03 19:41
DaemonFCsounds tastyAug 03 19:41
schestowitzyeahAug 03 19:42
DaemonFCI've been ordering a ton of case packsAug 03 19:42
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1841608Aug 03 19:42
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Here: This Is What a REAL Girl Geek Looks Like  http://penguinpetes.com/b2evo/index.php?title=here_this_is_what_a_real_girl_geek_looks&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1 the media changes what the word "geek" means, like "hacker"Aug 03 19:42
DaemonFCthe lady at the post office knows exactly what I want when I come in nowAug 03 19:42
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schestowitz"Consumerism, objectification, ick."Aug 03 19:43
DaemonFCschestowitz: you have to eatAug 03 19:43
DaemonFCwhy pay higher prices for the same food at a different store? :)Aug 03 19:43
DaemonFCthere's almost always a sale or a deal or SOMETHING and there's always ALDI tooAug 03 19:44
DaemonFCI've been managing to stay within my monthly grocery budget even as Walmart and Kroger's average prices are going through the roofAug 03 19:44
DaemonFCjust waiting for a good price and buying a TON of whatever it isAug 03 19:45
DaemonFCI'm not really picky about what I eat, so I just make meals out of what I can get a deal on :)Aug 03 19:45
DaemonFCschestowitz: I developed a strategy that helps me farm cashback and interest on my money market accountAug 03 19:46
DaemonFCput all my groceries, gas, bills, etc. on my cashback card, move the money into my money market account as I go, then pay the credit card in full once a month out of that accountAug 03 19:47
DaemonFCbanking laws in the US let you make as many deposits into a money market account as you want, but you're only allowed six withdrawalsAug 03 19:47
DaemonFCthat can be checks written on the account, bank drafts, or debit card swipesAug 03 19:48
DaemonFCthe upside of a money market account is that it pays much better interest than checkingAug 03 19:48
DaemonFCmy checking account only pays 0.4%, but the money market account pays 1.6%Aug 03 19:48
DaemonFCso I just accumulate enough money to cover my purchases in that account then drain the account to pay the credit card once a monthAug 03 19:49
DaemonFCbetween the interest payment to me and the cashback, last month I got paid $10 :)Aug 03 19:49
DaemonFCnot a fortune, but it's $10 a monthAug 03 19:49
DaemonFCso what will $10 do? not a lotAug 03 19:50
DaemonFCcouple DVDsAug 03 19:50
DaemonFCmaybe go to the movies a couple timesAug 03 19:50
DaemonFCit's $10 I wouldn't have had otherwise and it's not hard to get :)Aug 03 19:51
DaemonFCbanking is really an insane thingAug 03 19:51
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DaemonFCBen Bernanke and all his funny money Aug 03 19:51
DaemonFCB-)Aug 03 19:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Early August and channel 4 are showing xmas films.....channel 4 don't sack the person who made that decision. Train them properly.Aug 03 19:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @FSF ZaReason supports the #FSF statement against Restricted Boot: http://identi.ca/url/54986205Aug 03 20:01
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1841609Aug 03 20:05
TechrightsBot-tr@brainsnail@despora.de: __Real Men__ ![](http://www.bildschirmarbeiter.com/content/images/picdump-12-08-03/picdump-12-08-03-186.jpg)Aug 03 20:05
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schestowitzDaemonFC: bencoinAug 03 20:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Biggest New #US Spying Program You’ve Probably Never Heard Of - http://bit.ly/MDriEj wow, sounds bad (v @trevortimmAug 03 20:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Garbage out [IMG] http://identi.ca/url/73028373Aug 03 20:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] App.net is real-time social feed without ads - http://bit.ly/QnLb6f how is this different from #identica? (v @teawithcarl)Aug 03 20:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] RT @glynmoody The Biggest New #US Spying Program You’ve Probably Never Heard Of - http://bit.ly/MDriEj wow, sounds bad (v @trevortimmAug 03 20:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Sony to have new #linux phone http://identi.ca/url/73028402 Samsung also http://identi.ca/url/73028404 #android #linuxAug 03 20:18
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/95830138Aug 03 20:18
TechrightsBot-tr@Dr. Roy Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Friday, 03-Aug-12 18:35:32 UTC - Identi.ca: Is usability breaking Linux adoption? http://identi.ca/url/73028055 #linuxAug 03 20:18
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/95830024Aug 03 20:19
TechrightsBot-tr@Dr. Roy Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Friday, 03-Aug-12 18:30:08 UTC - Identi.ca: #GNOME needs to go to the Moon http://identi.ca/url/73028000 #gnuAug 03 20:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] Today's #linuxcon #cloudopen contest. How many times have you switched distros? Respond with hashtags and win free ticket!Aug 03 20:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Since @chaslinux continues #kitchener #ubuntuhour @MistyMtnCoffee, at 7pm I'll host ladies !ubuntu alternative at http://www.eggrollking.ca/Aug 03 20:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fsf/@fsf] New !FSF members from 18 different countries last month. Not bad! http://fsf.org/jfb !gnu !lpAug 03 20:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Want to thank your favorite digital rights hero? Nominate them for @EFF's Pioneer Awards by Monday 8/6 https://eff.org/r.2DDAug 03 20:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Brazil: Congress to vote on “Bill of Rights” for Net users - http://bit.ly/Nr0y8I that's "Marco Civil da Internet"; let's hope (v @asteris)Aug 03 20:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] As always, @chaslinux is welcome to bring the mistymountain crew over to the delicious Egg Roll King after !ubuntu #hour :)Aug 03 20:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is mfat from identi.ca with 95 dents!Aug 03 20:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] SED Astroturfer op @Webwereld heeft @ArjenKamphuis inmiddels uitgemaakt voor TROL http://is.gd/xCCBXS Clogwog, Hans van Raaij, Dizum CowardAug 03 20:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Cheers @Marktraceur It does feel like home.Aug 03 20:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] RT @NeelieKroesEU: @luigiscorca #EU has very good and flexible broadband state aid guidelines. Have been v. Successful over more than 3yrs.Aug 03 20:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Muslim on the telly saying his first prayer in the morning is for Man Utd. #justanothermarketingvictimAug 03 21:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Victory Over Cyber Spying | Electronic Frontier Foundation http://goo.gl/WuegU #privacy #usaAug 03 21:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Very interesting read by S. Craig Watkins on designing high school curriculum for #connectedlearning. bit.ly/QN0PrjAug 03 21:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Happy Watermelon Day ... http://www.boston.com/thingstodo/gotoit/2012/08/watermelon_day_boston.htmlAug 03 21:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #imp - Samsung reveals its pre-iPhone concepts: 10 touchscreen devices http://goo.gl/7ECXl a shut the f* up to #apple's #dirtytricksAug 03 21:18
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DaemonFCHow to copy ChiKKK Fil A at home without financially supporting their extremist agenda.Aug 03 21:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Past Tense Vancouver: Gertrude Williamson, Stanley Park, 1890s and Siwash Rock’s Wife ~ http://is.gd/cyciKd by @PstTnseAug 03 21:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: @luigiscorca #EU has very good and flexible broadband state aid guidelines. Have been v. http://p.ost.im/p/deqGhyAug 03 21:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] Stresslinux Torture-Tests Your Hardware bit.ly/QN5tWc #linuxAug 03 22:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Today at 4 PM: EFF's @mitchstoltz discusses international Internet access to the #Olympics on @npratc https://eff.org/r.1ahtAug 03 22:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #KDE - KDE Release 4.9 – in memory of Claire Lotion http://goo.gl/WreEsAug 03 22:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] thanks, so I've now gatheredAug 03 22:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] thanks, indeedAug 03 22:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] "You can buy me the web camera attachment for the rasberry pi" rAug 03 22:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] "Job done"Aug 03 23:01
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1841164Aug 03 23:11
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schestowitz"Somebody agrees with me! My life is finally complete!"Aug 03 23:11
DaemonFChttp://www.latimes.com/business/technology/la-fi-tn-unbaby-me-facebook-20120803,0,3872362.storyAug 03 23:12
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DaemonFCIf Stallman used Facebook, he'd love this.Aug 03 23:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I use Ubuntu and I use Identica. The difference is I feel a lot better about Identica.Aug 03 23:16
DaemonFChttp://www.shacknews.com/article/75112/carmack-nothing-exciting-about-windows-8Aug 03 23:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Militarised police [IMG] http://i.imgur.com/xtnOV.jpg First they came for the Latin[o|a]s, and I did nothing cause I wasn't Latin[o|a]...Aug 03 23:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Adobe sets one single font free, expects to openwash its brand http://identi.ca/url/48104521 one font? Really? http://identi.ca/url/73029920Aug 03 23:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] How #GoldmanSachs ... Paid Themselves Billions In Bonuses, And Watched As Tim Geithner Covered It All Up http://identi.ca/url/73029945Aug 03 23:36
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