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| DaemonFC | schestowitz: The charter school taxpayer fleecing is running full steam ahead in Indiana | Nov 10 00:01 |
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| DaemonFC | I'm not really sure what our new school superintendent can do about it when the Republicans now have enough members in the Indiana General Assembly to get a quorum even if the Democrats walk out again. | Nov 10 00:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Apple repeatedly blocks US drone strike tracking application for different reasons every time http://shar.es/7Iq39 | Nov 10 00:02 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Activist Post: Apple repeatedly blocks U.S. drone strike tracking application for different reasons every time .::. Size~: 231.76 KB | Nov 10 00:02 |
| *schestowitz gives channel operator status to amarsh04 DaemonFC Diablo-D3 | Nov 10 00:02 | |
| *schestowitz gives channel operator status to jono_ msb_ sebsebseb | Nov 10 00:02 | |
| *schestowitz gives channel operator status to ThistleWeb XFaCE | Nov 10 00:02 | |
| *schestowitz gives channel operator status to amarsh04 DaemonFC Diablo-D3 | Nov 10 00:02 | |
| *schestowitz gives channel operator status to jono_ msb_ sebsebseb | Nov 10 00:02 | |
| *schestowitz gives channel operator status to ThistleWeb XFaCE | Nov 10 00:02 | |
| *schestowitz smells many suspicious new users | Nov 10 00:02 | |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: it's part of Gates' agenda | Nov 10 00:06 |
| schestowitz | the rich ae hungry | Nov 10 00:06 |
| schestowitz | for more money and power | Nov 10 00:06 |
| schestowitz | they ate everything | Nov 10 00:06 |
| schestowitz | sold us mortgages | Nov 10 00:06 |
| schestowitz | took our houses | Nov 10 00:07 |
| schestowitz | privatised everything except public edu | Nov 10 00:07 |
| schestowitz | so now they go after the children | Nov 10 00:07 |
| DaemonFC | and water, in some cases | Nov 10 00:07 |
| DaemonFC | they're getting there | Nov 10 00:07 |
| schestowitz | yah | Nov 10 00:07 |
| DaemonFC | as soon as Huntington pays the $7-8 million to upgrade our water and sewage systems to federal standards..... | Nov 10 00:07 |
| schestowitz | by defniition, this is their aspiration | Nov 10 00:07 |
| DaemonFC | I think it'll all get sold to Aqua Indiana then | Nov 10 00:08 |
| schestowitz | people who believe that rich folks are not trying to get more are dluded | Nov 10 00:08 |
| schestowitz | their wealth is their identity | Nov 10 00:08 |
| DaemonFC | they don't want it now because it needs expensive upgrades, but after *we* pay the bill to upgrade... | Nov 10 00:08 |
| schestowitz | ego, score.. | Nov 10 00:08 |
| DaemonFC | the city will sell it to them for a pocket of dirt and then they'll triple our water bills | Nov 10 00:08 |
| schestowitz | same in NYC | Nov 10 00:08 |
| schestowitz | disaster capitalism | Nov 10 00:08 |
| schestowitz | after katrina they say it's expensive to repair and invit some old mates of municipality folks to 'help out' by taking it private | Nov 10 00:09 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I think that's why a lot of this stuff is not on the chopping block | Nov 10 00:09 |
| DaemonFC | it's being privatized or already is | Nov 10 00:09 |
| DaemonFC | we can't have anything that's for the public good without 90% of the money going into it being siphoned off by some criminal scumfuck | Nov 10 00:09 |
| DaemonFC | just look at what they did with public housing, and that was 20-30 years ago now | Nov 10 00:10 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Exciting opportunity: help build the World #OER Map http://bit.ly/SVVJeE | Nov 10 00:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Is being nice just another human strategy that happens not to be working under !capitalism. | Nov 10 00:10 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: World OER Map: Will You Help Build It? - Creative Commons .::. Size~: 24.64 KB | Nov 10 00:10 |
| DaemonFC | it went from being "government buys up some cheap land, builds apartments, and rents them" to "Government sends a voucher to cover half the rent on a private apartment that costs a third more than fair value" | Nov 10 00:10 |
| schestowitz | [00:10] [Notice] -TRIdentica to #techrights- [satipera/@satipera] Is being nice just another human strategy that happens not to be working under !capitalism. | Nov 10 00:10 |
| schestowitz | no profit in being nice | Nov 10 00:10 |
| DaemonFC | right | Nov 10 00:11 |
| schestowitz | the US is worse than us | Nov 10 00:11 |
| schestowitz | but we sold the forests | Nov 10 00:11 |
| DaemonFC | the only good part is that the scumfucks have lobbyists that makes the program harder to shut down later | Nov 10 00:11 |
| schestowitz | their lumbr and woods (for now) are no longer gov. property | Nov 10 00:11 |
| schestowitz | it's owned by some ligarchs | Nov 10 00:11 |
| DaemonFC | if it was still a not for profit thing, the other rich people would gain the upper hand because it increases their taxes a little | Nov 10 00:11 |
| schestowitz | *oli | Nov 10 00:12 |
| DaemonFC | so I think some of the public looting is the reason why those programs still exist at all | Nov 10 00:12 |
| DaemonFC | it's not because the government does it out of the good of their heart | Nov 10 00:12 |
| DaemonFC | the food stamp program was saved last year by corporate lobbyists from Walmart and Kroger | Nov 10 00:12 |
| DaemonFC | and JP Morgan Chase | Nov 10 00:12 |
| schestowitz | its'c rap | Nov 10 00:12 |
| schestowitz | it covers with sand the issue | Nov 10 00:12 |
| schestowitz | the issue is there | Nov 10 00:13 |
| schestowitz | low wags and all | Nov 10 00:13 |
| schestowitz | so then you do the miinimum to just feed them | Nov 10 00:13 |
| DaemonFC | "public assistance" might help people, but that's the side effect | Nov 10 00:13 |
| schestowitz | so they won'tc ome with a shotgun to your house damanding bread | Nov 10 00:13 |
| DaemonFC | the actual purpose of the programs are to divert money to the rich | Nov 10 00:13 |
| schestowitz | and you call that a "solution" | Nov 10 00:13 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: The food stamps program is corporate welfare from top to bottom | Nov 10 00:14 |
| DaemonFC | the same thing went wrong there as went wrong with public housing | Nov 10 00:14 |
| DaemonFC | 50-60 years ago, the government bought surplus fruit, vegetables, cheese, milk, butter, eggs, etc. real cheap | Nov 10 00:14 |
| DaemonFC | gave it to the poor | Nov 10 00:14 |
| DaemonFC | then it turned into a voucher program that enriched for profit grocery stores and food marketers | Nov 10 00:14 |
| DaemonFC | then it got even worse, around 2000 or so, when it started getting turned into a debit card state by state | Nov 10 00:15 |
| DaemonFC | and JP Morgan Chase bills the government like 2-3% of each transaction now just for handling the payment | Nov 10 00:15 |
| DaemonFC | (WAAAAAY more expensive than mailing out a book of coupons) | Nov 10 00:15 |
| DaemonFC | so it just gets worse every year | Nov 10 00:15 |
| DaemonFC | Medicare privatization is still going on | Nov 10 00:17 |
| MinceR | gn | Nov 10 00:18 |
| DaemonFC | Obama did reverse a little of that, but more than made up for it with the individual mandate for younger people | Nov 10 00:18 |
| DaemonFC | it did fuel some of Romney's attack ads when he misconstrued the $714 million that Obama took out of Medicare Part C and D (which got rid of some of the excess profits of drug and insurance companies in a few cases) | Nov 10 00:18 |
| DaemonFC | the attack ads played scary music and showed sick old people | Nov 10 00:19 |
| DaemonFC | one of them went after Obama and Joe Donnelly and said "Obama took $11 million out of Medicare in Indiana alone!" | Nov 10 00:19 |
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| DaemonFC | Romney would put it back so that Medicare would not be more useful to seniors and the disabled, but it would go back to costing another $72 million a year | Nov 10 00:20 |
| DaemonFC | and then he would have really left the individual mandate alone | Nov 10 00:20 |
| DaemonFC | so we'd have gotten the worst of both | Nov 10 00:20 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Sony now leading #Android Open Source Project for Xperia S http://ur1.ca/av80a #linux | Nov 10 00:20 | |
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| schestowitz | i c.. | Nov 10 00:20 |
| schestowitz | scare ads | Nov 10 00:20 |
| schestowitz | sponsored y..? | Nov 10 00:20 |
| schestowitz | *by | Nov 10 00:20 |
| DaemonFC | Karl Rove's super PAC did that one | Nov 10 00:20 |
| schestowitz | don't you just like being manipulated bya ds? | Nov 10 00:20 |
| schestowitz | BTW, I keep getting fake stuff over the phone | Nov 10 00:21 |
| DaemonFC | I wasn't really manipulated by it in the way they wanted me to be. | Nov 10 00:21 |
| schestowitz | last one hours ago, this one automated rather than a person | Nov 10 00:21 |
| DaemonFC | I voted for Donnelly. | Nov 10 00:21 |
| schestowitz | claiming that I am entitled to some money | Nov 10 00:21 |
| schestowitz | I think it should be against the law if it ain't already | Nov 10 00:21 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I think that we, as a society, should declare that there's only so far a person is allowed to fall. | Nov 10 00:22 |
| DaemonFC | and that corporations have no business having a profit layer in running those basic subsistence guarantees | Nov 10 00:22 |
| DaemonFC | if public housing and food stamps were being ran for the good of the people only, they would be 60% less expensive | Nov 10 00:23 |
| DaemonFC | and Medicare would be at least 40% less expensive | Nov 10 00:24 |
| DaemonFC | they have no intention of getting the budget balanced | Nov 10 00:24 |
| DaemonFC | you want a balanced budget? get rid of them and hand me a calculator and a pencil | Nov 10 00:24 |
| DaemonFC | they will never balance the budget because it would suck many hundreds of billions of dollars in excess profits out of the "private sector" | Nov 10 00:25 |
| DaemonFC | (as much as you can call it that when it's running government programs with government funding at a cost that far exceeds anything reasonable) | Nov 10 00:26 |
| DaemonFC | it happened to NASA | Nov 10 00:26 |
| DaemonFC | SpaceX was basically the last piece of NASA being profitized | Nov 10 00:26 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: How do you figure the Republicans will get rid of the Tea Party? | Nov 10 00:28 |
| DaemonFC | I think it is a genuine annoyance to some of them | Nov 10 00:29 |
| DaemonFC | it's that other side of big business that wants tax cuts | Nov 10 00:29 |
| DaemonFC | the mainstream Republicans represent the big businesses that use the tax money to pig out on while running "public programs" | Nov 10 00:29 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #EFF delivers easy full-disk encryption for #Ubuntu http://ur1.ca/av8d9 #privacy | Nov 10 00:35 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] "OER is the only space where continuous quality improvement is possible." -David Wiley http://bit.ly/QuRKGK @cgreen #oer #mooc | Nov 10 00:42 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Growing up fast http://ur1.ca/av8m6 | Nov 10 00:47 | |
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| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/97806664 | Nov 10 01:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Sander (sandersch)'s status on Saturday, 10-Nov-12 00:56:39 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz that's not fast. Have you ever heard of the series toddlers and tiaras? Disgusting! | Nov 10 01:01 |
| schestowitz | [00:28] <DaemonFC> schestowitz: How do you figure the Republicans will get rid of the Tea Party? | Nov 10 01:01 |
| schestowitz | or voter fraud? | Nov 10 01:01 |
| schestowitz | or association with romney... | Nov 10 01:01 |
| schestowitz | I find it all rather comical | Nov 10 01:02 |
| schestowitz | even with a bad president like Obama they couldn't win | Nov 10 01:02 |
| schestowitz | Romneyw as too weak | Nov 10 01:02 |
| schestowitz | mccain was probably worse | Nov 10 01:02 |
| schestowitz | and his running mate did not help | Nov 10 01:02 |
| schestowitz | "The only american value, hypocrisy at all cost." | Nov 10 01:11 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2095384 | Nov 10 01:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Apple repeatedly blocks US drone strike tracking application for different reasons every time http://shar.es/7Iq39 | Nov 10 01:11 |
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| schestowitz | like they say wikileaks is illegal, rather than the things wikileaks helps expose | Nov 10 01:11 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Wishtel to launch #Linux based tablet http://ur1.ca/av90t #india | Nov 10 01:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #iran says #pentagon lied about location of killer drone http://ur1.ca/av98q Rupert #Murdoch press: http://ur1.ca/av98r | Nov 10 01:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "The American military has launched 333 drone strikes this year in Afghanistan." http://ur1.ca/av9a9 drones make *more* 'terrorists' | Nov 10 01:17 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Provoking by entering #iran airspace to create press #propaganda IMHO http://ur1.ca/av9cs http://ur1.ca/av9ct | Nov 10 01:20 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Report from the street: Tablets are kicking laptops to the curb http://ur1.ca/av9h7 #android machines take away from Windows | Nov 10 01:27 | |
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| DaemonFC | https://www.amazon.com/forum/politics/ref=cm_cd_et_md_pl?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx1S3QSZRUL93V8&cdMsgID=Mx2L12RSBN7G3PO&cdMsgNo=26&cdPage=2&cdSort=oldest&cdThread=TxQOFXAZ8TFHP2#Mx2L12RSBN7G3PO | Nov 10 01:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Amazon.com: Customer Discussions: Obama's re-election already resulting in massive layoffs .::. Size~: 299.7 KB | Nov 10 01:31 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.amazon.com/forum/politics/ref=cm_cd_et_md_pl?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx1S3QSZRUL93V8&cdMsgID=Mx39LVE88QMLV1U&cdMsgNo=1&cdPage=1&cdSort=oldest&cdThread=TxQOFXAZ8TFHP2#Mx39LVE88QMLV1U | Nov 10 01:31 |
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| DaemonFC | (first link was wrong | Nov 10 01:31 |
| DaemonFC | I replied... | Nov 10 01:31 |
| DaemonFC | don't know why I bother | Nov 10 01:31 |
| DaemonFC | "Mormon and future God" PINK PONIES says: | Nov 10 01:31 |
| DaemonFC | Most of these companies have had deep structural problems and bad management for years. | Nov 10 01:31 |
| DaemonFC | KMart started closing stores in the late 90s. The Sears merger just bought both of them a little time as they were both still in decline. | Nov 10 01:31 |
| DaemonFC | Research In Motion is shifting from actually making things to Patent Troll that preys on Android vendors and Apple. That one has been coming along for some time. Nobody really wants "Blackberry" anymore, and that's really all they had. | Nov 10 01:31 |
| DaemonFC | Caterpiller sells heavy machinery to Israel, knowing it will be used to harass Palestinians and bulldoze their houses, and deserves to go under just for that. It was really a victim of the bad construction market, which has never really recovered from the Bush recession. | Nov 10 01:32 |
| DaemonFC | Westinghouse has been in decline for decades. There's still EPA superfund sites from them all over the country. They contaminated much of Indiana with polychlorinated biphenyl. CBS owns them now and is technically resonsible for the extensive environmental damage they have caused, but the taxpayers are actually covering about 80% of the cleanup that has been done. Westinghouse pollution has probably killed thousands of Americans. | Nov 10 01:32 |
| DaemonFC | US Cellular? There's an over saturation of cell phone companies in the US. Others will absorb their market and hire as many workers as they laid off. Who cares? | Nov 10 01:32 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "There's still #AMD developers working on #Linux support" http://ur1.ca/av9mz | Nov 10 01:32 | |
| DaemonFC | Vestas Wind Systems. Tell John Boehner to restore the federal tax credits for installing wind turbines and all 3,000 of those workers will be called back. | Nov 10 01:32 |
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| DaemonFC | Boeing (30 percent of management staff) - LOL.... They're top heavy with management and they laid some of it off. Good. | Nov 10 01:32 |
| DaemonFC | Bristol-Meyers-Squibb (cutting 480 jobs) - Certainly not because prescription drugs aren't profitable. Maybe they just haven't patented anything new in a while and some of their patent extortion funds are running a little dry lately. They need to get some patents extended so they can go back to murder via patent as normal. (Killing sick people by denying them medicine that costs about a penny per tablet, because they can't afford the $5-20 | Nov 10 01:32 |
| DaemonFC | per tablet after the monopolist markup.) | Nov 10 01:32 |
| DaemonFC | Come back with some companies that weren't already going under. | Nov 10 01:32 |
| schestowitz | good post | Nov 10 01:33 |
| schestowitz | [01:31] <TechrightsBot-tr> Title: Amazon.com: Customer Discussions: Obama's re-election already resulting in massive layoffs .::. Size~: 296.46 KB | Nov 10 01:33 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Why was an Indian man held for sending a tweet? http://ur1.ca/av9qp #india | Nov 10 01:38 | |
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| DaemonFC | https://www.amazon.com/forum/politics/ref=cm_cd_et_md_pl?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx1S3QSZRUL93V8&cdMsgID=Mx10WM979GXXDSK&cdMsgNo=1&cdPage=1&cdSort=oldest&cdThread=Tx1TETL3HLBLP20#Mx10WM979GXXDSK | Nov 10 01:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Amazon.com: Customer Discussions: Anyone having buyers' remorse? You won't when you hear how Mitt cut-off campaign-staffers' credit cards, leaving them stranded after concession speech. .::. Size~: 198.57 KB | Nov 10 01:41 |
| DaemonFC | LOL | Nov 10 01:41 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Viral Video Of 9-Year-Old Girl Football Star... Taken Down Because Of Music http://ur1.ca/av9sv #copyright #fail | Nov 10 01:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Welcome Windows 8 to a Post-Desktop World | The Linux Foundation http://goo.gl/uWl2l #flossfiles | Nov 10 01:43 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Viral Video Of 9-Year-Old Girl Football Star... Taken Down Because Of Music | Techdirt .::. Size~: 118.81 KB | Nov 10 01:43 |
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| schestowitz | http://swampland.time.com/2012/11/07/inside-the-secret-world-of-quants-and-data-crunchers-who-helped-obama-win/ | Nov 10 01:44 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2093746 | Nov 10 01:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Android/Linux/FOSS is a Massive Problem for Apple http://techrights.org/2012/11/09/android-is-killing-apple/ #apple #android #linux | Nov 10 01:46 |
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| schestowitz | ""Good. Fuck 'em" ~ Cohagen in 80s Total Recall" | Nov 10 01:46 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2095541 | Nov 10 01:47 |
| schestowitz | "The cataclyst driver suck, imagine without work!" | Nov 10 01:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @linux@joindiaspora.com: "There's still #AMD developers working on #Linux support" http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTIyNDk | Nov 10 01:47 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Swedish boffins: An ICE AGE is coming, only CO2 can save us • The Register http://goo.gl/hqVjK #agw #iceage | Nov 10 01:52 | |
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| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/97807154 | Nov 10 01:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Satipera (satipera)'s status on Saturday, 10-Nov-12 01:46:41 UTC - Identi.ca: @Schestowitz because it was easy and useful. I must get some kip. I love you all Identizens but not in a religious or sexual way. | Nov 10 01:52 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] I think that can be dealt with; there are existing definitions of a "standards body" that can be reused. | Nov 10 01:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] As Stallman points out, there are no "software patents", just patents that can be used against software. The goal is to prevent that. | Nov 10 01:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] Thanks. I sometimes wonder if I'm being too hard on the guests... | Nov 10 01:55 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Introducing RedPatch (Ksplice Blog) http://ur1.ca/avb1j | Nov 10 02:45 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Activist Post: 7 #Superfoods to Help You Live Longer (w / Infographic) http://goo.gl/OAAKO | Nov 10 04:00 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @laroquod WIPO wants to hold public #copyright consultations. My guess? It's Harper's Gambit, all over again. See my comment here htt ... | Nov 10 04:27 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Hitler's Secret Science - YouTube http://goo.gl/xSijB #wwii | Nov 10 05:02 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] If that's the way (e.g.) W3C and OASIS want to go, nothing. But AFAIK it's not. | Nov 10 06:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] OASIS for example permits new WGs to use FRAND terms, but none select them. I'm just saying "why make an enemy of telecoms". | Nov 10 06:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Moments in Climatism –the #quotes you’ve been looking for « JoNova: Science, carbon, climate and tax http://goo.gl/ciWhz #agw | Nov 10 06:30 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Reshared post from Kristian Köhntopp http://ur1.ca/avfdz | Nov 10 06:38 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Jan Wildeboer - Google+ - Testing in production... ... If you have production. "… .::. Size~: 149.82 KB | Nov 10 06:38 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @evan: If we were serious about generating ideas, we'd work all day in the shower, shouting our epiphanies through the curtain... | Nov 10 07:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @mlinksva: @evan for calibration purposes, did you generate this idea in the shower? | Nov 10 07:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] Starting the #FSCONS day with #capoeira by the harbour #GOT http://ur1.ca/avg6j | Nov 10 07:25 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @evan I get most of my epiphanies in the shower too! not so much from (stationary) biking, probably because I'm distracted by a movie then | Nov 10 07:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Headline of the day :-) "The Best Groupon Deal Ever: 86.2% Off On GRPN at NASDAQ" - http://ur1.ca/avgga... http://b1t.it/coFd | Nov 10 07:38 | |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Jan Wildeboer - Google+ - Headline of the day :-) "The Best Groupon Deal Ever: 86.2%… .::. Size~: 143.06 KB | Nov 10 07:38 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Reshared post from Will Hill http://ur1.ca/avgpl | Nov 10 07:53 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Jan Wildeboer - Google+ - Apple spanked and fined for stupid games. " this sanction… .::. Size~: 145.27 KB | Nov 10 07:53 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Hm. Interesting. Pfizer loses Viagra patent in Canada over "gaming the system". Maybe the global smartphone patent war... http://b1t.it/coFv | Nov 10 08:10 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Jan Wildeboer - Google+ - Hm. Interesting. Pfizer loses Viagra patent in Canada over… .::. Size~: 140.11 KB | Nov 10 08:10 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] One little thing wrt the recent little flamewar between Apache OpenOffice and LibreOffice. Numbers. git svn clone http... http://b1t.it/coFG | Nov 10 08:23 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Reshared post from Swapnil Bhartiya http://ur1.ca/avhwu | Nov 10 09:08 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Jan Wildeboer - Google+ - I am selling my Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 with accessories… .::. Size~: 139.16 KB | Nov 10 09:08 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] The ethics of outing your rapist http://goo.gl/yBW4k | Nov 10 09:12 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The ethics of outing your rapist | Jill Filipovic | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 302.73 KB | Nov 10 09:12 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] yes, it can be pejorative, but this shows when it can be positive too | Nov 10 09:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Study: Receiving a Compliment has Same Positive Effect as Receiving Cash - http://onforb.es/RKLIjq why projects like #opensource work | Nov 10 09:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Moody's Microblog Daily Digest 121109 - http://bit.ly/TP4N4Q yesterday's tweets as a single Web page #MMDD | Nov 10 09:13 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Study: Receiving a Compliment has Same Positive Effect as Receiving Cash - Forbes .::. Size~: 56.42 KB | Nov 10 09:13 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Genetically-modified insects: under whose control? EFSA again under scrutiny - http://bit.ly/TjA8KI #EFSA is obviously not fit for purpose | Nov 10 09:17 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Genetically-modified insects: under whose control? EFSA again under scrutiny | Corporate Europe Observatory .::. Size~: 82.8 KB | Nov 10 09:17 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] What do you really think of the #RaspberryPi? - http://bit.ly/TRq7Xy "survey is anonymous and only takes a few minutes" | Nov 10 09:18 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: What do you really think of the Raspberry Pi? | Raspberry Pi .::. Size~: 25.41 KB | Nov 10 09:18 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/NMShenoy/statuses/267148607453536257 http://twitter.com/jpetrise/statuses/267006670176129024 | Nov 10 09:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @NMShenoy: Expected since #Nokia is now #Microsoft's bitch - "@jpetrise: #Nokia's patent attack on #Linux has officially began http://t.co/U291Zx0J" | Nov 10 09:22 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | @jpetrise: Intel and Microsoft launch Anti-Linux attacks similar to OLPC attacks http://t.co/KSbllYda | Nov 10 09:22 |
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| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/proyvind/statuses/267170429913952256 http://twitter.com/blesstbee/statuses/267072517364129792 | Nov 10 09:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @proyvind: @ch_s @schestowitz incorrect on both. codename for this second alpha is "Unnamed Loser" | Nov 10 09:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @blesstbee: @schestowitz It's about time! Thanks for the GREAT news. | Nov 10 09:23 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/ch_s/status/266307998064988160 | Nov 10 09:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @ch_s: @schestowitz : moondrake is just a codename..its final name is #OpenMandriva #mandriva #linux | Nov 10 09:23 |
| schestowitz | "what's your <3 distro?" | Nov 10 09:26 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/conversations?conversation_id=32679 | Nov 10 09:26 |
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| schestowitz | Debian and Kubuntu | Nov 10 09:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] California's Prop 37 and the story of knowledge - http://aje.me/Ut282T this is also a story about #opendata - or lack of it #gm | Nov 10 09:27 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: California's Prop 37 and the story of knowledge - Opinion - Al Jazeera English .::. Size~: 115.39 KB | Nov 10 09:27 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] $6.6 Million Ruling Against Lyrics Site, Once Again, Shows How Short Sighted Music Industry Is - http://bit.ly/Zi8vVI so foolish | Nov 10 09:30 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: $6.6 Million Ruling Against Lyrics Site, Once Again, Shows How Short Sighted Music Industry Is | Techdirt .::. Size~: 54.18 KB | Nov 10 09:30 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Microsoft's Big Hidden #Vista8 Feature: Built-In Advertising http://ur1.ca/avics #ubuntu goes down the same path | Nov 10 09:33 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Microsoft's Big Hidden Windows 8 Feature: Built-In Advertising - HotHardware .::. Size~: 75.73 KB | Nov 10 09:33 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Nexus 7 Edges Out iPad on Holiday Wishlists - http://on.mash.to/ROhVoy a straw in the wind...? | Nov 10 09:37 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Saturday frenzy. Baking bread, washing shirts and stuff, take the Dyson for a walk and cleaning windows. No time to relax! | Nov 10 09:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] World OER Map: Will You Help Build It? - http://bit.ly/QvLQVH course you will... #oer | Nov 10 09:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Drones http://ur1.ca/avijh | Nov 10 09:40 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: World OER Map: Will You Help Build It? - Creative Commons .::. Size~: 24.64 KB | Nov 10 09:40 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2095533 | Nov 10 09:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @linux@joindiaspora.com: Report from the street: Tablets are kicking laptops to the curb http://www.zdnet.com/report-from-the-street-tablets-are-kicking-laptops-to-the-curb-7000007139/ #android machines take away from Windows | Nov 10 09:41 |
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| schestowitz | "I agree. 90% of my time wasting could easily be accomplished with a tablet." | Nov 10 09:41 |
| schestowitz | "My games aren't nearly as good on the tablet." | Nov 10 09:41 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Safeway: "Stop photographing our horrible, copyrighted cakes" - http://bit.ly/QvMzpS blissfully unaware of #streisandeffect | Nov 10 09:47 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Safeway: "Stop photographing our horrible, copyrighted cakes" - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 37.59 KB | Nov 10 09:47 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Copyright Industry Reality Takes Six Years To Catch Up With The Worst Satire Of It - http://bit.ly/Ty9VWu well spotted #microsoft | Nov 10 09:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Chris Spannos: Greece Between Austerity and Fascism http://ur1.ca/aviqd #greece | Nov 10 09:50 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Copyright Industry Madness Takes Six Years To Catch Up With The Worst Satire Of It - Falkvinge on Infopolicy .::. Size~: 247.64 KB | Nov 10 09:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Chris Spannos: Greece Between Austerity and Fascism | The New Significance .::. Size~: 48.97 KB | Nov 10 09:50 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The poor hit hardest: Bitter cold inside a disaster shelter http://ur1.ca/aviql | Nov 10 09:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Financial Times today: "Yemeni Nobel winner criticises US drones" #Drones | Nov 10 09:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "experiments funded by US Defence agency DARPA and drone-producer Lockheed Martin" http://ur1.ca/avit4 universities for assassination | Nov 10 09:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Fidei defensores - http://bit.ly/SWud0B great defence of universities as places of education & learning, not degree factories | Nov 10 09:55 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Bitter cold inside a disaster shelter | The Asbury Park Press NJ | app.com .::. Size~: 202.61 KB | Nov 10 09:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Soon, unmanned drone that dodges obstacles on its own .::. Size~: 67.76 KB | Nov 10 09:55 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] e lá vou eu pro conisli! até de noitinha... | Nov 10 10:00 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The People Who Support Linux: SysAdmin Tony Atkinson Admits to a Luddite Streak http://ur1.ca/avj0g #linux | Nov 10 10:08 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The People Who Support Linux: SysAdmin Tony Atkinson Admits to a Luddite Streak | Linux.com .::. Size~: 44.02 KB | Nov 10 10:08 |
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| DaemonFC | https://www.boston.com/news/politics/2012/president/candidates/romney/2012/11/10/orca-mitt-romney-high-tech-get-out-the-vote-program-crashed-election-day/gflS8VkzDcJcXCrHoV0nsI/story.html | Nov 10 10:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: ORCA, Mitt Romney’s high-tech get-out-the-vote program, crashed on Election Day - News - Boston.com .::. Size~: 56.75 KB | Nov 10 10:24 |
| DaemonFC | LOL | Nov 10 10:24 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.amazon.com/forum/politics/ref=cm_cd_et_md_pl?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx1S3QSZRUL93V8&cdMsgID=Mx2NHWGVGF7YCIW&cdMsgNo=1&cdPage=1&cdSort=oldest&cdThread=Tx2U0LIXZF4OJF5#Mx2NHWGVGF7YCIW | Nov 10 10:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Amazon.com: Customer Discussions: Romney's get out the vote program crashed on election day and had 90 minutes of downtime. .::. Size~: 190.71 KB | Nov 10 10:27 |
| iophk | Windows problems then? | Nov 10 10:27 |
| DaemonFC | possibly | Nov 10 10:28 |
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| cubezzz | what is that, some sort of robocaller thing? | Nov 10 10:36 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Brains and the Internet - don't ask, just watch it! bit.ly/QvRkjm "Pay attention to what you are paying attention to" | Nov 10 10:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Two Years Later, #Ubuntu Isn't Running On #Wayland http://ur1.ca/avjj2 #linux | Nov 10 10:45 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: [Phoronix] Two Years Later, Ubuntu Isn't Running On Wayland .::. Size~: 18.37 KB | Nov 10 10:45 |
| schestowitz | http://www.cringely.com/2012/11/09/bug-or-feature-ebay-drops-wildcard-search/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+ICringely+%28I%2C+Cringely%29 | Nov 10 10:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Bug or feature? eBay drops wildcard search ~ I, Cringely .::. Size~: 59.87 KB | Nov 10 10:48 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] The UK Court Sanctions Apple, Hopes "Lack of Integrity" In Notice Incident Is Not "Typical" http://goo.gl/uURM2 | Nov 10 10:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Debian Switches Back To #GNOME From #Xfce http://ur1.ca/avjjt #gnu #linux | Nov 10 10:48 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Groklaw - The UK Court Sanctions Apple, Hopes "Lack of Integrity" In Notice Incident Is Not "Typical" ~ pj .::. Size~: 92.75 KB | Nov 10 10:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: [Phoronix] Debian Switches Back To GNOME From Xfce .::. Size~: 16.57 KB | Nov 10 10:48 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2093746 | Nov 10 10:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Android/Linux/FOSS is a Massive Problem for Apple http://techrights.org/2012/11/09/android-is-killing-apple/ #apple #android #linux | Nov 10 10:50 |
| schestowitz | "Hey, they can always sue sue sue their way back." | Nov 10 10:50 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2092573 | Nov 10 10:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Gnome 3.8 is dropping Fallback Mode http://worldofgnome.org/gnome-3-8-is-dropping-fallback-mode/ #gnu #linux | Nov 10 10:50 |
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| schestowitz | "With XFCE I really don't see how this is a massive loss to humanity or anything." | Nov 10 10:50 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Mapping racist Tweets: where post-election hate came from http://goo.gl/NjPdr turns out to be a map of #GOP regional HQ's right? | Nov 10 10:53 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Mapping racist Tweets: where post-election hate came from | ZDNet .::. Size~: 77.03 KB | Nov 10 10:53 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Android and #gnu #linux on a dual-booting tablet for $100 http://ur1.ca/avjqh nice to have a free desktop too | Nov 10 11:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Get five Android games for whatever price you want http://ur1.ca/avjqy #android #games | Nov 10 11:12 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Android and Linux on a dual-booting tablet for $100 | Ars Technica .::. Size~: 35.62 KB | Nov 10 11:12 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Google Is Blocked in #China as Party Congress Begins http://ur1.ca/avjrw use http://ur1.ca/66fcf instead. #censorship | Nov 10 11:15 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Google Is Blocked in China as Party Congress Begins - NYTimes.com .::. Size~: 44.63 KB | Nov 10 11:15 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2096192 | Nov 10 11:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @linux@joindiaspora.com: Two Years Later, #Ubuntu Isn't Running On #Wayland http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTIyNTA #linux | Nov 10 11:17 |
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| schestowitz | "Wayland is the E17 of the graphic servers. It probobly will be release at some point. The question is: will we be still alive?" | Nov 10 11:17 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2095551 | Nov 10 11:18 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Viral Video Of 9-Year-Old Girl Football Star... Taken Down Because Of Music http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121108/18153120978/viral-video-9-year-old-girl-football-star-taken-down-because-music.shtml #copyright #fail | Nov 10 11:18 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> Title: Viral Video Of 9-Year-Old Girl Football Star... Taken Down Because Of Music | Techdirt .::. Size~: 123.53 KB | Nov 10 11:18 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 10 11:18 |
| schestowitz | Absolutely ...... true | Nov 10 11:18 |
| schestowitz | No one wins from this ...... | Nov 10 11:18 |
| schestowitz | People have to ask the question - how does it help the artists - not being heard ? | Nov 10 11:18 |
| schestowitz | Business - pay for advertising ...... | Nov 10 11:18 |
| schestowitz | Its FREE advertising - ( now their songs will not be heard on that popular video ) | Nov 10 11:18 |
| schestowitz | So its a FAIL ....... 2 million people are not an easy audience to grab. | Nov 10 11:18 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 10 11:18 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @avilarenata ♡ Copying art is an act of love http://copyheart.org >>nice (v @Falkvinge) #sharing | Nov 10 11:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #China Opens Railway Technology Institution In #Nigeria - http://bit.ly/TAo6fOin the footsteps of the British Empire... (v @africatechie) | Nov 10 11:23 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #washington finally admits lying about the #iran #drone incident. Shame on #CNN et al. for pushing forth #pentagon lies. | Nov 10 11:25 | |
| iophk | More Vista8 http://www.zdnet.com/uk/microsoft-punts-reduced-cost-windows-8-devices-for-schoolkids-7000007121/ | Nov 10 11:26 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Microsoft punts reduced-cost Windows 8 devices for schoolkids | ZDNet .::. Size~: 72.36 KB | Nov 10 11:26 |
| schestowitz | iophk: I wrote about it | Nov 10 11:29 |
| schestowitz | the usual drugdealers' tactics | Nov 10 11:29 |
| iophk | Even to the point of getting buy-in from the less scrupulous politcians | Nov 10 11:29 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #iran is a ruthless country, but using lies and provocation against it only helps delegitimise its foes. But enough foo http://ur1.ca/avjue | Nov 10 11:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] CNN: "Iranian jets fired on an unarmed MQ-1" > poor drone, he (she?) was "unarmed" | Nov 10 11:30 | |
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| cubezzz | has any of us tried windows 8? | Nov 10 11:30 |
| cubezzz | s/has/have/ | Nov 10 11:30 |
| cubezzz | seems their pumping out the windows versions a lot faster these days | Nov 10 11:31 |
| cubezzz | s/their/they're/ | Nov 10 11:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The #cnn propaganda gets shattered in the comments section. Even CNN readers are not dumb enough anymore. | Nov 10 11:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Innocents are killed by drones http://ur1.ca/avjvx new piece | Nov 10 11:32 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Innocents are killed by drones - NL Woman - Belfast Newsletter .::. Size~: 133.25 KB | Nov 10 11:32 |
| schestowitz | http://tribune.com.pk/story/463483/pakistani-drones-are-for-surveillance-only-naveed-qamar/ | Nov 10 11:34 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Pakistani drones are for surveillance only: Naveed Qamar – The Express Tribune .::. Size~: 55.06 KB | Nov 10 11:34 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2096319 | Nov 10 11:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: CNN: "Iranian jets fired on an unarmed MQ-1" > poor drone, he (she?) was "unarmed" | Nov 10 11:35 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2096313 | Nov 10 11:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #CNN #propaganda again: "Iran has already garnered one propaganda victory" http://security.blogs.cnn.com/2012/11/09/drone-incident-over-the-gulf-a-sign-of-the-times/ notice how they portray droens | Nov 10 11:35 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2095551 | Nov 10 11:37 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Viral Video Of 9-Year-Old Girl Football Star... Taken Down Because Of Music http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121108/18153120978/viral-video-9-year-old-girl-football-star-taken-down-because-music.shtml #copyright #fail | Nov 10 11:37 |
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| schestowitz | " | Nov 10 12:00 |
| schestowitz | Enough is enough. America isn't broke -- we're being robbed. Over the next six months, we'll be calling out those who are robbing America and proving that we can Rebuild the American Dream. | Nov 10 12:00 |
| schestowitz | The first step in fighting back is to commit to each other that we won't buy the myth, and we won't sit silent while today's robber barons set the terms of the debate. | Nov 10 12:00 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 10 12:00 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] RT @NeelieKroesEU: Cowards tried to murder 14-yr-old. But it won't silence her, & it won't silence her message #IamMalala... | Nov 10 12:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] RT @NeelieKroesEU: Inspiring how the 15-year old #Malala could spread her message via the internet http://t.co/Pl3rjkKw #IAmMalala | Nov 10 12:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] RT @NeelieKroesEU: Visit to #Azerbaijan reminded me importance of freedom of speech. Internet new frontier of freedom. http://t.co/Pl3rjkKw | Nov 10 12:02 | |
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| iophk | http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/08/sec-cyber-attacks_n_2096640.html | Nov 10 12:07 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Sir Tim Berners-Lee: Raw data, now! - http://bit.ly/VQ3uF9 what he said (v @klang67 @stefan_paulsson) #opendata | Nov 10 12:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] U.S. WikiLeaks Criminal Probe ‘Ongoing,’ Judge Reveals http://ur1.ca/avk6w does it investigate #NYTimes for Pentagon Papers too? | Nov 10 12:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #government #propaganda for removing freedoms on the Internet http://ur1.ca/avk7b | Nov 10 12:13 | |
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| schestowitz | <https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2096123 | Nov 10 12:26 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @linux@joindiaspora.com: The People Who Support Linux: SysAdmin Tony Atkinson Admits to a Luddite Streak http://www.linux.com/news/featured-blogs/200-libby-clark/661722-the-people-who-support-linux-sysadmin-tony-atkinson-admits-a-luddite-streak #linux | Nov 10 12:26 |
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| schestowitz | "luddites were people at the beginning of the 19th century who fought against new technology because it destroyed their jobs and living - not because they had nostalgic tastes or were conservative." | Nov 10 12:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #un pushes corporate (copyright) interests on the #internet http://ur1.ca/avkc2 first #patents and #censoship , now this... | Nov 10 12:33 | |
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| cubezzz | I'm not a luddie, I'm a trans-era computerist :) | Nov 10 12:34 |
| iophk | http://yro.slashdot.org/story/12/11/10/026247/why-you-cant-build-your-own-smartphone-patents | Nov 10 12:36 |
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| iophk | " the average smartphone is covered by over 250,000 patents." | Nov 10 12:36 |
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| cubezzz | gee is that all? :-P | Nov 10 12:36 |
| cubezzz | I figured it had to be half a mill | Nov 10 12:37 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #clinvar: One-stop shop for disease genes - http://bit.ly/SWEeLb nice new #opendata initiative (v @openscience) #genomics | Nov 10 12:42 | |
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| schestowitz | fewt: who is "Bibo"? and why does he attack our bot? He claims to be a fudbuntu dev | Nov 10 12:42 |
| schestowitz | *fuduntu | Nov 10 12:42 |
| schestowitz | iophk: yes, I saw that | Nov 10 12:42 |
| fewt | Bibo, he has been helping out with grub themes | Nov 10 12:43 |
| schestowitz | well, tell him to not attack our channel | Nov 10 12:43 |
| fewt | I'll mention it :) | Nov 10 12:43 |
| fewt | must have happened while I was logged in from my tablet, don't see anything in my history | Nov 10 12:44 |
| fewt | I'll mention it to him tho | Nov 10 12:44 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] A Lucid New Primer on the Collaborative Economy - http://bit.ly/TkiFBV big, important report from @mbauwens #cc #p2p | Nov 10 12:50 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Undies skydive babes vow to jump again in their lingerie http://goo.gl/CQkfz that has to be freezing #windspeed | Nov 10 13:17 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] "Lord" David Steel "The people who run the internet have a lot to answer for." #clueless | Nov 10 13:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] RT @schestowitz #un pushes corporate (copyright) interests on the #internet http://ur1.ca/avkc2 first #patents and #censoship , now this... | Nov 10 13:42 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] So, my talk at #fscons done this morning. Now available for questions at the !fsfe booth | Nov 10 13:45 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] "Lhasa has the happiest people" - http://bit.ly/RL78Nu so happy, they keep self-immolating (v @Asher_Wolf)#tibet | Nov 10 13:57 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] How is !capitalism working in Britain if low wages are being subsidised from taxation? #employerwelfare | Nov 10 14:00 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] W3C and Digital Publishing http://dlvr.it/2SbyZs | Nov 10 14:12 | |
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| sebsebseb | hi | Nov 10 14:16 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] What is an acceptable age for humans to start having sex? #lightthebluetouchpaperandstandback. | Nov 10 14:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] the importance of getting quickly back on the horse - word count now 18,133 #NaNoWriMo after nuttin yesterday | Nov 10 14:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Ushahidi London UK Casual Meetup - http://bit.ly/VZA9n0 lots happening this month... (v @HeatherLeson) | Nov 10 15:00 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Book launch: "The Wealth of the #Commons — a World beyond Market and State" - http://bit.ly/PLOlBQ #london (v @technoshaman @mbauwens) | Nov 10 15:00 | |
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| MinceR | geekings | Nov 10 15:00 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Toshiba Pursues Copyright Claim Against Laptop Manual Site - http://bit.ly/WPIUWM #toshiba keen to win the Evil & Stupid Award this week... | Nov 10 15:03 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #GeorgeEntiwstle seems to have perfect the "I didn't know about this" line to cover his own ass - is that what the #BBC call competent? | Nov 10 15:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] BBC Executive says in an assertive and wordy manner... It was someone else's fault. | Nov 10 15:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Part of the Tarantula Nebula - http://bit.ly/UfAKzi fab image spoilt by all those random white dots in the background. oh, wait... | Nov 10 15:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Pirate Bay Founder Arrested Again On Suspicion Of New Hacking & Fraud Offenses http://goo.gl/F2ZlW | Nov 10 15:08 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Why You Can't Build Your Own Smartphone: Patents http://goo.gl/LvW7q | Nov 10 15:13 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #HootSuite privacy fail sees hundreds of emails sent to users in an hour, complete with other people’s details http://goo.gl/d4JYn | Nov 10 15:17 | |
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| iophk | http://www.theverge.com/2012/11/7/3614140/microsoft-patent-chief-bart-eppenauer-five-minutes-on-the-verge | Nov 10 15:50 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] Now at "Dirty tactics against #LibreOffice in public administration and how to overcome them" by !fsfe 's @otto ur1.ca/avm7j | Nov 10 16:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] RT @grote @padeluun Ich glaube der Link ist falsch. Für #FreieSoftware Handlungsempfehlungen sollte es dieser sein: http://bit.ly/UzJ11F ... | Nov 10 16:28 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] RT @grote I'm not suprised that #Windows8 is tracking its users, but showing ads? Seriously? http://bit.ly/UzJz7B | Nov 10 16:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fsfe/@fsfe] RT @kirschner Now at "Dirty tactics against #LibreOffice in public administration and how to overcome them" by !fsfe 's @otto ur1.ca/avm7j | Nov 10 16:30 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] FSFE's @otto / @ottokekalainen hitting out against dirty tactics against #LibreOffice #FSCONS | Nov 10 16:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] [RT] Linux Foundation's Jim Zemlin on the New Lock-in - http://bit.ly/XpYSWz & the other thing #android has done for #linux | Nov 10 16:52 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] See the traces you leave on the web https://myshadow.org/ thanks @smarimc #privacy | Nov 10 16:57 | |
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| iophk | Gmail : http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2012/11/10/why-david-petraeuss-gmail-account-is-a-national-security-issue/ | Nov 10 17:04 |
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| iophk | the article completely misses PGP | Nov 10 17:05 |
| iophk | and the reasons for PGP | Nov 10 17:05 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Mena-Quintero: A Friday rant on Gnome 3, journalists, and power users http://ur1.ca/avmj2 | Nov 10 17:10 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #NaNoWriMo taking shape - word count now at 19,026 \o/ | Nov 10 17:13 | |
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| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/Ynys_Prydein/statuses/267290675270254593 | Nov 10 17:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Ynys_Prydein: http://t.co/fHo7ERpA Microsoft Becomes Surveillance Company - An achievement even the NSA would envy. #proprietarysoftware | Nov 10 17:28 |
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| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/JorgeStolfi/status/267201920622551040 | Nov 10 17:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @JorgeStolfi: "no one expects ads in a piece of software that they just paid good money for" That's Windows 8 apps. http://t.co/L6ajl2R5 [v @schestowitz] | Nov 10 17:44 |
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| MinceR | Nov 10 17:59 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2096211 | Nov 10 18:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Debian Switches Back To #GNOME From #Xfce http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTIyNTM #gnu #linux | Nov 10 18:16 |
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| schestowitz | "shame on them ." | Nov 10 18:16 |
| schestowitz | "All the elderly people care about is font size. And that's a normal setting in Universal Access, Display: Contrast and Text size." | Nov 10 18:16 |
| schestowitz | iophk: good pick re PGP | Nov 10 18:18 |
| schestowitz | I will do a post about it in my personal blog | Nov 10 18:18 |
| iophk | Here's what's now a classic: http://www.philzimmermann.com/EN/essays/WhyIWrotePGP.html | Nov 10 18:19 |
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| iophk | Original Press Release for OpenSSH: http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/OpenSSH/Why_Use_Encryption#Original_Press_Release_for_OpenSSH | Nov 10 18:20 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: OpenSSH/Why Use Encryption - Wikibooks, open books for an open world .::. Size~: 59.64 KB | Nov 10 18:20 |
| iophk | Sorry wrong link, not openssh, but the first ssh: http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/OpenSSH/Why_Use_Encryption#Excerpt_of_SSH_1.2.12_README_File_from_1995 | Nov 10 18:20 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: OpenSSH/Why Use Encryption - Wikibooks, open books for an open world .::. Size~: 59.64 KB | Nov 10 18:21 |
| iophk | Why use encryption | Nov 10 18:21 |
| iophk | Petraeus could have used PGP but didn't | Nov 10 18:21 |
| MinceR | yeah, shame on debian | Nov 10 18:23 |
| MinceR | crunchbang remains sane. | Nov 10 18:23 |
| iophk | GnuPG is available for many distros. | Nov 10 18:23 |
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| iophk | Even closed systems have GnuPG | Nov 10 18:27 |
| iophk | https://www.gpgtools.org/ | Nov 10 18:27 |
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| iophk | PGP is the standard, GnuPG is one program of several. | Nov 10 18:28 |
| iophk | PGP integration is poor in thunderbird and worse in most other clients and non-existent in some. | Nov 10 18:29 |
| iophk | With the cutting back on thunderbird development, it will not get better any time soon. | Nov 10 18:29 |
| iophk | The need is at an all time high. | Nov 10 18:29 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz: The landlord threw the people downstairs out. :) Now he has to deal with two empty units because I'm already in the process of moving out thanks to them. | Nov 10 18:34 |
| DaemonFC | I ran into him downstairs a few minutes ago. He's not happy | Nov 10 18:34 |
| DaemonFC | I don't know why I stayed here so long. It's been almost six years now. When I moved in, my income was much better and now I have an inordinate percentage going to rent. | Nov 10 18:35 |
| DaemonFC | I guess I just hate moving that much. | Nov 10 18:35 |
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| DaemonFC | I think the rule of thumb is that rent or mortgage should be less than 45% of your income, and less than about 50% if the landlord throws in all the utilities. | Nov 10 18:44 |
| DaemonFC | My rent hasn't gone up in the last six years, but my income has gone down. So, my rent+utilities payment has gone from only about 20% of my income to nearly half | Nov 10 18:46 |
| DaemonFC | it's just under that point where I think I should be getting alarmed | Nov 10 18:46 |
| DaemonFC | I'm glad I was living so far below my means to begin with. | Nov 10 18:47 |
| DaemonFC | If I was doing what most people were doing in 2007, I would have ended up with expenses that totaled over 100% of my new income | Nov 10 18:48 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Well, I wood never! ♻ @BadJokeCat: A farmer had a wooden tractor, with wooden wheels and a wooden engine. And guess what...... IT WOODEN GO! | Nov 10 18:48 | |
| DaemonFC | It's disgusting that even after the 1% has destroyed so much of the average American household's wealth that they are still pushing people to live beyond their means and to borrow all of the money they need to do it. | Nov 10 18:49 |
| DaemonFC | When the next bubble bursts, it's going to be biblical. | Nov 10 18:49 |
| DaemonFC | credit cards are next, no doubt in my mind | Nov 10 18:49 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @x11r5: @andyc Did 2 of my old tumour. I can't even remember a fucking password. #Sigh | Nov 10 18:50 | |
| DaemonFC | the "credit card" reform dealt with some of the more ridiculous things that credit card companies do to cheat you, but it left open the possibility to get yourself into way more trouble than you could ever possibly deal with. | Nov 10 18:50 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2096211 | Nov 10 18:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Debian Switches Back To #GNOME From #Xfce http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTIyNTM #gnu #linux | Nov 10 18:51 |
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| iophk | XFCE is the better choice. | Nov 10 18:51 |
| schestowitz | "Thx for your replies, guys. Could you please direct me to the font settings in Gnome 3? Where can I find it? All I could find was "Gnome Tweak Tool" or "Ubuntu Tweak Tool" which means there is no default font management GUI tool in a place." | Nov 10 18:51 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 10 18:52 |
| schestowitz | The Gnome Tweak Tool is the default GUI: https://live.gnome.org/GnomeTweakTool | Nov 10 18:52 |
| schestowitz | Anything else in GNOME 3 is designed to be customizable via gnome-shell extensions: https://extensions.gnome.org/ | Nov 10 18:52 |
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| schestowitz | " | Nov 10 18:52 |
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| schestowitz | "Ahhh ... so there is no de-facto default font setting tool. That's what amazes me. Tweaking is not considered to be something that every user should do. At least changing your font should not involve some serious tweaking, but instead it should rely on a simple setting in control panel. Just think about all those elderly people, etc." | Nov 10 18:52 |
| schestowitz | [18:35] <DaemonFC> I guess I just hate moving that much. | Nov 10 18:53 |
| schestowitz | makes sense | Nov 10 18:53 |
| iophk | http://linuxlock.blogspot.com/2012/11/beware-razers-edge.html | Nov 10 18:53 |
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| schestowitz | I saw it, is it any good? | Nov 10 18:53 |
| DaemonFC | saw what? | Nov 10 18:54 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.muktware.com/4783/hiring-linux-trainee-journalists-india | Nov 10 18:54 |
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| MinceR | drop-down consoles make him feel "teet"? :> | Nov 10 18:54 |
| DaemonFC | Well, Yakuake is pretty damned convenient | Nov 10 18:55 |
| DaemonFC | Guake isn't bad, either. | Nov 10 18:55 |
| DaemonFC | Guake doesn't seem to have any ridiculous GNOME dependencies, so I use it in Xfce setups | Nov 10 18:55 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] NRC Report Links #ClimateChange To National Security - http://bit.ly/PMbtAe "threats...greater than those posed by terrorist attacks" | Nov 10 19:00 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] [RT] Moody's Microblog Daily Digest 121109 - http://bit.ly/TP4N4Q yesterday's tweets as a single Web page #MMDD | Nov 10 19:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Russlands neue Außenpolitik: Putins Pakt mit China - http://bit.ly/SLJdLx potentially big if it actually happens | Nov 10 19:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Federated Media kills off banner ads, shifting focus to demand-based and topic-driven advertising - http://tnw.co/Z4MIBL big shift underway? | Nov 10 19:03 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Want to work with the #GalaxyZoo Team? - http://bit.ly/Z4MU47 exciting stuff; in Zurich #citizenscience | Nov 10 19:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] US Doctor Data to be “Open Eventually” - http://bit.ly/PMc05k interesting crowdfunded approach #opendata | Nov 10 19:05 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Want to work with the Galaxy Zoo Team? « Galaxy Zoo .::. Size~: 56.45 KB | Nov 10 19:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: US Doctor Data to be “Open Eventually” | Open Knowledge Foundation Blog .::. Size~: 53.96 KB | Nov 10 19:05 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Irish newspapers have some curious views about search engines - http://bit.ly/SX57yw "absurd" is the word you're looking for... | Nov 10 19:07 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: IT Law in Ireland: Irish newspapers have some curious views about search engines .::. Size~: 108.14 KB | Nov 10 19:07 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @glynmoody: Irish newspapers have some curious views about search engines - http://bit.ly/SX57yw "absurd" is the word you're looking for.. | Nov 10 19:10 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: IT Law in Ireland: Irish newspapers have some curious views about search engines .::. Size~: 108.14 KB | Nov 10 19:10 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Mozfest 10 Nov - http://bit.ly/STvip7 the day in pix - 164 of them #mozilla | Nov 10 19:15 | |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2096080 | Nov 10 19:30 |
| schestowitz | "They try to create addicts." | Nov 10 19:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared:  #anonymous #protest #health #care #pharmacy #people #economy #customers | Nov 10 19:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Missing content type. Ignoring. | Nov 10 19:30 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2093746 | Nov 10 19:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Android/Linux/FOSS is a Massive Problem for Apple http://techrights.org/2012/11/09/android-is-killing-apple/ #apple #android #linux | Nov 10 19:31 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2093746# | Nov 10 19:31 |
| schestowitz | "Hey, they can always sue sue sue their way back." | Nov 10 19:32 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Android/Linux/FOSS is a Massive Problem for Apple http://techrights.org/2012/11/09/android-is-killing-apple/ #apple #android #linux | Nov 10 19:32 |
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| DaemonFC | "I got a nice bonus in an unexpected voter revolt against the Republican (Young Earth Creationist/school profitizer/Bill Gates "Common Core" $hill) Superintendent of Public Instruction, Tony Bennett. We gave him the boot. Nobody even saw that one coming. That made my whole day. " | Nov 10 19:32 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Nov 10 19:32 |
| iophk | Another article that does not mention PGP or even encryption. http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/11/us/fbi-said-to-have-stumbled-into-news-of-david-petraeus-affair.html | Nov 10 19:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: F.B.I. Said to Have Stumbled Into News of David Petraeus Affair - NYTimes.com .::. Size~: 57.99 KB | Nov 10 19:35 |
| iophk | Somehow I think that none will. | Nov 10 19:35 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is schestowitz from identi.ca with 92 dents! | Nov 10 19:37 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !tzag and good afternoon !identiverse | Nov 10 19:45 | |
| iophk | What's the attack on search engines about? A smoke screen for real problems? | Nov 10 19:49 |
| iophk | http://www.tjmcintyre.com/2012/11/irish-newspapers-search-engines.html | Nov 10 19:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: IT Law in Ireland: Irish newspapers have some curious views about search engines .::. Size~: 108.14 KB | Nov 10 19:49 |
| iophk | It's not like they don't have staff that know about robots.txt | Nov 10 19:49 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @x11r5: @expatpaul Waste of time since i did it, but i think a non-tech person. Tee hee, nobody's got more "idiot user" cred than me | Nov 10 20:00 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Shocked a Grand River Transit bus driver declined to kneel bus for 2 with canes, 2 with walkers... NOT !WRAwesome @GRTRiderAlerts #GRTFAIL | Nov 10 20:00 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @thistleweb ♺ @x11r5: @expatpaul Waste of time since i did it, but i think a non-tech person. Tee hee, nobody's got more "idiot user ... | Nov 10 20:00 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @larryrusswurm I plain didn't know that mice could sing. In this post I try to figure out the repercussions. #humour http://ur1.ca/avnsa | Nov 10 20:08 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Mice Can Sing | The Many Rants of Larry Russwurm .::. Size~: 31.3 KB | Nov 10 20:08 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] Thanks for the fantastic views! http://ur1.ca/avnv7 | Nov 10 20:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Good times :-) http://ur1.ca/avnvt | Nov 10 20:18 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: San Francisco - a set on Flickr .::. Size~: 92.87 KB | Nov 10 20:18 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] it might be a good time to *write* a book @mcnalu :P | Nov 10 20:28 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Nominalizați #Linux ca fiind „acel ceva” cu cel mai mare impact social, în fiecare zi, până în 6 decembrie http://ur1.ca/avo56 #gnu | Nov 10 20:57 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Nominate #Linux for Biggest Social Impact every day through December 6 http://ur1.ca/avo56 #gnu | Nov 10 20:58 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @teirdes: The collapse of infrastructure of creative industry is a market failure, not a moral failure. #foe6 | Nov 10 21:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Finished @doctorow's #PirateCinema, leaving it on the bookshelf at Warsaw Hackerspace @hackerspacepl; already a queue for it. "Illustrious". | Nov 10 21:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] I would love to have a chat with @doctorow about #PirateCinema and Anti-ACTA some day. Maybe at #29C3? Cory, you be there? | Nov 10 21:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] There are (obviously!) so many ways Anti !ACTA and #PirateCinema are similar, and so many the are different. Helluva chat to have! @doctorow | Nov 10 21:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Scrieți programe în #Pascal ( #FreePascal ) pentru #Android http://ur1.ca/avoca http://ur1.ca/avocb #mobile #cellphone | Nov 10 21:18 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[faither/@faither] ♻ @cyberkiller: It's sad to see #lo active on the evil twitter and not on identi.ca :-( | Nov 10 21:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Ouch. That's cold. ♻ @BadJokeCat: What's the difference between a snowman and a snow woman? Snowballs. | Nov 10 21:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @harcesz: @11listopada kiedy rusza transmisja? :] | Nov 10 21:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] #ZaReason WHY YOU TROLL ME SO?! Why offer this perfect lappy now, when I bought a different one already?! bit.ly/Xt1GSU | Nov 10 21:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Wreszcie! Katalog polskich firm ogarniających WiOO! http://flossmarket.pl/ | Nov 10 21:47 | |
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| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/MacLemon/statuses/267371751321788416 | Nov 10 21:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @MacLemon: @reshanrichards Whoops, Sorry. My Copy/Paste fail. http://t.co/EZ14qxh5 http://t.co/fTjhQCa1 http://t.co/IEccGXx2 http://t.co/ifZZBF6X | Nov 10 21:51 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/penphoe/statuses/267302967785426945 | Nov 10 21:52 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | @penphoe: Another great summary of the current state of Apple's patent attacks by Techrights. If you don't have time to keep… http://t.co/COeRJNwE | Nov 10 21:52 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] The Revelation of Moses - YouTube http://goo.gl/IxLu3 #xfiles | Nov 10 21:58 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] #w3ccommunity Proposed Group: Extensible Web Community Group http://dlvr.it/2SglKP | Nov 10 22:22 | |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2095532 | Nov 10 22:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Report from the street: Tablets are kicking laptops to the curb http://www.zdnet.com/report-from-the-street-tablets-are-kicking-laptops-to-the-curb-7000007139/ #android machines take away from Windows | Nov 10 22:59 |
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| schestowitz | "Android tablets are not even close (in functionality and performance) to a good laptop with GNU/Linux on it..." | Nov 10 22:59 |
| sebsebseb_ | schestowitz: how do you op in a channel, werid it's like I forgot the command or something | Nov 10 23:03 |
| MinceR | /chanserv op #channel | Nov 10 23:03 |
| sebsebseb_ | hmm I was doing something like that, but nope | Nov 10 23:03 |
| sebsebseb_ | oh I see now of course | Nov 10 23:03 |
| sebsebseb_ | I am not logged into my account, that's why it's not working | Nov 10 23:03 |
| MinceR | :> | Nov 10 23:04 |
| sebsebseb_ | MinceR: thanks | Nov 10 23:04 |
| MinceR | yw | Nov 10 23:04 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] He cleaned Nick Clegg's office – and was punished for wanting a living wage http://goo.gl/gPm4P | Nov 10 23:30 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: He cleaned Nick Clegg's office – and was punished for wanting a living wage | Society | The Observer .::. Size~: 321.4 KB | Nov 10 23:30 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Petraeus scandal is reported with compelled veneration of all things military http://goo.gl/1wnOl | Nov 10 23:45 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Petraeus scandal is reported with compelled veneration of all things military | Glenn Greenwald | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 318.52 KB | Nov 10 23:45 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Reshared post from Fabian Scherschel http://ur1.ca/avpfm | Nov 10 23:48 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @jwildeboer: Reshared post from Fabian Scherschel http://ur1.ca/avpfm | Nov 10 23:52 | |
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