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schestowitzin 2 years wordpress only had two or sao security-criticial releasesJan 27 00:14
schestowitzThat's quite good compared to earlier years and in general, so I don't have to worry much about itJan 27 00:14
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2314976Jan 27 01:03
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Goodbye Ubuntu http://netsplit.com/2012/10/30/goodbye-ubuntu/ #Canonical Might Launch Only LTS Distros Starting with #Ubuntu 14.04 http://news.softpedia.com/news/Canonical-Might-Launch-Only-LTS-Distros-Starting-with-Ubuntu-14-04-323665.shtmlJan 27 01:03
TechrightsSocial-> Title: Goodbye Ubuntu | netsplit.com .::. Size~: 25.93 KBJan 27 01:03
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schestowitz"Jan 27 01:04
schestowitzdebian stable does not run on new hardware. have you ever tried to get some fairly new hardware to simply run on a fairly new piece of hardware and leave it running for monhts without attendance? ubuntu has a good qa process and the quality of releases has improved quite a bit (compare with fedora or other popular distros).Jan 27 01:04
schestowitzbut the actual question you all should be asking yourself is, why always bash canonical when it is such a small company and still being foss oriented? if you don't agree fine, but to compare them to m$ is like the nazi-comparison. tired of studying a complex problem? just equalize your opponent with some historically evil force and you are done... guess with whom that puts you in a boat :-P keep the vision focused on some Jan 27 01:04
schestowitzenemy then you won't be distracted by the problem after all...Jan 27 01:04
schestowitzshow moreJan 27 01:04
schestowitzabout a minute agoJan 27 01:04
schestowitz  Jan 27 01:04
schestowitzH0NEST ANNIEJan 27 01:04
schestowitzforgive my redundance and typos, it's the end of my dayJan 27 01:04
schestowitzless than a minute agoJan 27 01:04
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2314624Jan 27 01:28
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Reminder of relevance: BBC is not independent. It sells an agenda and has corporate funders (taxpayers just help them) http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/BBCJan 27 01:28
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schestowitz"Jan 27 01:28
schestowitzIf there is one thing the BBC ought to promote it's Free software.Jan 27 01:28
schestowitzThey ought to be saturated with it: What could be more similar to the ideals of "public service" than Free software?!Jan 27 01:28
schestowitzThe fact that you never hear a squeak out of them about it (quite the opposite in fact) is very, very telling.Jan 27 01:28
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schestowitz"Jan 27 09:43
schestowitzAnalyses show that the General Public License v2.0 and v3 (GPL2 and GPL3) are incompatible with FRAND terms, because they pass rights to the next user of the software in a cascade, without the need of obtaining a license from the original IPR owner. GPL2 and GPL 3 also presuppose royalty-free licensing, which clashes with royalty-bearing FRAND. Jan 27 09:43
schestowitz[PJ: Just a reminder of the findings in the EU Commission's November report, because a commenter posted that he thought only GPLv3 was incompatible with FRAND. But no, both v2 and v3 are incompatible, for the above reasons.] -  EC.EUROPA.euJan 27 09:43
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schestowitzhttp://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-01-11/google-didn-t-lobby-white-house-in-ftc-case-lawyer-says.htmlJan 27 09:47
schestowitz"[PJ: How offensive Microsoft's bad-humored reaction is. Just make products somebody wants to use and get over it. Obviously, Microsoft must think it has Congress in its pocket or it wouldn't make this suggestion, which also highlights some hypocrisy making my baloney meter lurch all the way to the right and then off the screen.] "Jan 27 09:47
TechrightsSocialTitle: Google Didn’t Lobby White House in FTC Case, Lawyer Says - Bloomberg .::. Size~: 134.4 KBJan 27 09:47
schestowitz"Jan 27 10:11
schestowitz>> I'm not sure if these new fllaws can explain the recent issues,Jan 27 10:11
schestowitz>> >> but either way, tomorrow I need to upgrade about 10 sites :-(Jan 27 10:11
schestowitz>> >> Jan 27 10:11
schestowitz>> >> http://wordpress.org/news/2013/01/wordpress-3-5-1/Jan 27 10:11
TechrightsSocialTitle: WordPress ›   WordPress 3.5.1 Maintenance and Security Release .::. Size~: 20.53 KBJan 27 10:12
schestowitz> > Jan 27 10:12
schestowitz> > Ten is a lot.  Good luck.Jan 27 10:12
schestowitz> > Jan 27 10:12
schestowitz> > Are you on a WordPress mailing list to get the security notices in aJan 27 10:12
schestowitz> > timely manner?Jan 27 10:12
schestowitzThe CMS installer sends out E-mails when updates are issued.Jan 27 10:12
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schestowitz"Jan 27 10:12
schestowitz> > I'm glad it's fixed.  It was perplexing that none of the outages wereJan 27 10:12
schestowitz> > showing up in the logs.  10 years after dropping PHP for it seemingJan 27 10:12
schestowitz> > half-baked, it still seems half-baked.  About BT, I've been havingJan 27 10:12
schestowitz> > problems with Sonera and so have other people.  Intermittently,Jan 27 10:12
schestowitz> > outgoing packets don't get routed, though at the same time incomingJan 27 10:12
schestowitz> > ones are ok.  That kills TCP but allows asymmetric UDP.  Let's hopeJan 27 10:12
schestowitz> > the problem with BT is something they can solve quickly.Jan 27 10:12
schestowitzI had similar issues in 2010 and intervention by the ISP (and increasedJan 27 10:12
schestowitzpayments) 'fixed' it. Seems like a capacity issue, or throttling.Jan 27 10:12
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schestowitz> > You'd probably do well there and it would also provide a good platformJan 27 10:12
schestowitz> > with your campaigning if you can fit it in to your core activities.Jan 27 10:12
schestowitz> > In the US, tenure-track faculty members have *really* long hours.Jan 27 10:12
schestowitz> > Many of my friends from college got PhDs and went into academia, theyJan 27 10:12
schestowitz> > would have had to put in 90 hours per week just to stay afloat.  ToJan 27 10:12
schestowitz> > get ahead required much more time.  I'm not sure of how it is inJan 27 10:12
schestowitz> > Europe, but during my work I got the feeling that it is even moreJan 27 10:12
schestowitz> > political.  A lot of time is spent on getting grants while at the sameJan 27 10:12
schestowitz> > time as juggling teaching and research and family.Jan 27 10:12
schestowitzYes, and I was repeatedly told so by people in academia. They want oneJan 27 10:12
schestowitzto work exceedingly overtime, which I refuse to do. Also, I don't pushJan 27 10:13
schestowitzmyself hard to publish. I've submitted no papers since 2006.Jan 27 10:13
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XFaCEqu1j0t3: I assume you heard about the new premierJan 27 17:23
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XFaCEuh ohJan 27 17:25
XFaCEshit just got seriousJan 27 17:25
qu1j0t3yaJan 27 17:25
qu1j0t3wllJan 27 17:25
qu1j0t3wellJan 27 17:25
qu1j0t3actually i haven;t gone to see who wonJan 27 17:25
XFaCEthe one who is a lesbianJan 27 17:26
XFaCEso not only the first woman premier afaikJan 27 17:26
XFaCEbut the first openly homosexual oneJan 27 17:26
qu1j0t3certainly not the first woman premier!Jan 27 17:27
qu1j0t3XFaCE: well, it's Canada, not Saudi Arabia :DJan 27 17:28
XFaCEhahaJan 27 17:28
XFaCEstill, who else would you want to go against Harper? Jan 27 17:28
qu1j0t3anyone who would win :)Jan 27 17:30
qu1j0t3it's past goof-off time, i guess.Jan 27 17:30
XFaCEhahaJan 27 17:33
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2302613Jan 27 17:45
TechrightsSocial@nohopeone@joindiaspora.com: who want ethnical cleansing and which state is #racist ? but who is working 4 #peace and #coexistenz #israel #palestine #zionism #antizionismJan 27 17:45
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schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/BTCare/statuses/295575969660542977Jan 27 18:06
TechrightsSocial@BTCare: @schestowitz Can you complete http://t.co/6S9h2uc7 and we'll be in touch.Jan 27 18:06
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qu1j0t3https://twitter.com/williambanzai7/status/295504306801631234Jan 27 20:26
TechrightsSocial@williambanzai7: How Iceland Overthrew The Banks: The Only 3 Minutes Of Any Worth From Davos | Zero Hedge http://t.co/pBdthVrjJan 27 20:26
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qu1j0t3http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5124784Jan 27 21:26
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qu1j0t3https://twitter.com/aspaul/status/295207239512367104Jan 27 21:31
TechrightsSocial@aspaul: "It's cold out, so much for global warming" is the new "If evolution is real, why aren't monkeys turning into humans?"Jan 27 21:31
qu1j0t3https://twitter.com/qu1j0t3/status/295645701440942080Jan 27 21:34
TechrightsSocial@qu1j0t3: RT @rupertmurdoch Back in US. What happened to global warming? … new ice age! // Die in a fire, you corrupt old fuck.Jan 27 21:34
schestowitz[21:31] <TechrightsSocial> @aspaul: "It's cold out, so much for global warming" is the new "If evolution is real, why aren't monkeys turning into humans?"Jan 27 21:52
schestowitz::-)Jan 27 21:52
schestowitzanecdotesJan 27 21:52
schestowitz"my grandpa smokes and is 90"Jan 27 21:52
schestowitzqu1j0t3: rupertmurdoch dosn't read his accountJan 27 21:53
MinceRbut one of his drones does, doesn't it?Jan 27 21:54
schestowitzyeah, and they're used to it, and don't get offended 'for' their paymasterJan 27 21:55
qu1j0t3schestowitz: i'm sure he doesn't.Jan 27 22:09
qu1j0t3but it's stupid enough that he probably writes it.Jan 27 22:09
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schestowitzUserful is probably best known for this, but one of its main competitors, NComputing, used to compete with OLPC and Userful by offering Linux or Windows as part of thin client-server solution in education, especially in developing countries. I'm not at all fond of NComputing for various reasons, but there are some large success stories from them as well. As many as half a million students use that architecture in one east Jan 27 22:56
schestowitzEuropean nation. To mimic what they do we can reuse existing FOSS, but their management tools and methods are typically proprietary. Userful has not made many headlines (e.g. success stories) in recent years. I think Chromebooks became a curious alternative in education and tablets too are a low-cost solution, selling at about 150 pounds for low-end Android-based  units. I will gather some more information on Userful-like Jan 27 22:56
schestowitzsuccess stories; the ones we've listed I've heard about before (lots of PR), except the smaller deployments.Jan 27 22:56
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/candtalan/statuses/295637458429804546Jan 27 23:30
TechrightsSocial@candtalan: @schestowitz Can they delete their own posts later......? #judgementJan 27 23:30
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/pensadorlouco/statuses/295625891160129536Jan 27 23:30
TechrightsSocial@pensadorlouco: People charged twice for rejecting what they never asked for in the first place - http://t.co/hIqZPEfjJan 27 23:30
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