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XFaCEqu1j0t3: hiJun 12 05:01
XFaCEqu1j0t3: notice how everything's going to shit recently?Jun 12 05:02
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roy> You should not have to go through your desktop. It should be possible to bounceJun 12 08:41
roy> files through the gw machine by just copying them there. Or, even slicker, youJun 12 08:41
roy> can use an ssh port forward. You ssh from the old techrights server to gw butJun 12 08:41
roy> have your ssh client forward a port on localhost to the new server via gw.Jun 12 08:41
roy> Either way it all stays within the same network and moves at gigabit speed.Jun 12 08:41
royI'll pass my keys to the "old" server and see if that enables passwordless login. I'll try this later today.Jun 12 08:41
*roy is now known as schestowitzJun 12 08:43
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2710306Jun 12 08:45
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: NSA Scandal Reveals Google is not really like Linux and never was.  http://lxle.net/index.php?id=articles&post=nsa-google-not-linux-revealedJun 12 08:45
schestowitz"I agree with Will"Jun 12 08:45
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MinceRSuicide Girls >> http://24.media.tumblr.com/74d886846e37e53d3c578fba6dd3883c/tumblr_mnek01mPym1s0mwlmo1_500.jpgJun 12 13:41
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2712825Jun 12 13:44
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schestowitz"Priorities dude, priorities."Jun 12 13:44
schestowitzClimateJun 12 13:44
schestowitzClimate change is a real problemJun 12 13:45
schestowitzMinceR: two hands for "peace"Jun 12 13:45
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2712852Jun 12 13:46
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Economy and climate https://joindiaspora.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/images/scaled_full_2c6ab545b26a16267348.jpgJun 12 13:46
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schestowitz"Destroying the true beaty of life for greed, really sad."Jun 12 13:46
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2712714Jun 12 13:46
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Spying-free alternative (chart) https://joindiaspora.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/images/scaled_full_9c2b95e445d7b7d16dc6.pngJun 12 13:46
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schestowitz"Duckducgo is in there, so, are they with us? or with the NSA?"Jun 12 13:46
schestowitzI don't trust them enough, I use Wikipedia and ixquick.comJun 12 13:46
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2712808Jun 12 13:50
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Microsoft is spying on the user w/ #xbox whereas Sony's Xbox counterpart is full of win https://joindiaspora.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/images/scaled_full_339ebe29f03180a62a7d.jpgJun 12 13:50
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schestowitz""Sony wins, flawless victory!", if you know what i mean."Jun 12 13:50
schestowitz> Hi, Roy,Jun 12 15:14
schestowitz> Jun 12 15:14
schestowitz> I set up a wireless card in OpenBSD on my modem last week.  I tested aJun 12 15:14
schestowitz> few cards and took the best of them, but there is still a lot to beJun 12 15:14
schestowitz> desired as far as range goes.  Also OpenBSD doesn't support 802.11n yet.Jun 12 15:14
schestowitz> Jun 12 15:14
schestowitz> But the long and the short of it is that with the modem in the window,Jun 12 15:14
schestowitz> the signal just reaches the greenhouse where I am sitting now.Jun 12 15:14
schestowitzIt's seems to be done to hardware more than software, although on my router there are buttons to optimise for best channel to broadcast on.Jun 12 15:14
schestowitzI've been kicking myself a bit for the past few minutes. I found out that the service I had set up to alert me by email when the site was down was suddenly toggled off for techrights and left on for schestowitz.com. Nothing that I did, they just toggled it off. So I had a lot of downtime as well as time wasted on manual checks (browser refreshes and running top in a terminal) just because I didn't figure out this Montastic Jun 12 15:14
schestowitzerror before. No idea why it got toggled off...Jun 12 15:14
schestowitzI might try to migrate all the data this evening. Will you be around to help?Jun 12 15:14
schestowitz> Sure.  What can I do?Jun 12 15:24
schestowitzI need to set up a two-layer SSH forwarding. I might also give you a public key with which to access the servers.Jun 12 15:24
schestowitz https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2711084Jun 12 16:44
TechrightsSocial@jamesprothero@joindiaspora.com: ### Noam #Chomsky (2013) on "Confronting Reality"  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPWW1NxBRDkJun 12 16:44
TechrightsSocial-> Title: Noam Chomsky (2013) on "Confronting Reality" - YouTube .::. Size~: 212.4 KBJun 12 16:44
schestowitz"If he matches Bertrand Russell he would have another 12-13 years. Keep your fingers crossed :)"Jun 12 16:44
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2713692Jun 12 16:45
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Google is to the US government what #Baidu is to the Chinese government. Enough said...Jun 12 16:45
schestowitz"The EFF even rates Google among the most transparent companies: https://www.eff.org/who-has-your-back-2013: "Jun 12 16:45
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Robert4787/status/344774481652375552Jun 12 17:37
TechrightsSocialNot a tweet?Jun 12 17:37
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2714079Jun 12 17:42
TechrightsSocial@mrzauruz@joindiaspora.com: Falkvinge on Twitter: "Terrorism is bullshit. Five times as many European die drowning in their bathtubs. It's the scare word of the 2000s." Very good point.. I got to admit! https://twitter.com/Falkvinge/status/344464157631975424Jun 12 17:42
TechrightsSocialNot a tweet?Jun 12 17:42
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2713122Jun 12 17:45
TechrightsSocial@rog@joindiaspora.com: *Many people dream of success. To me, success can only be achieved through repeated failure and introspection* by Soichiro Honda #quotesJun 12 17:45
schestowitz"Jun 12 17:45
schestowitzit's interesting that the indigenous peoples, those that managed to live in sustainable ways for tens of thousands of years, had no concept of ownershipJun 12 17:45
schestowitzthey were indebted to the earth for what bounty they took, and that was itJun 12 17:45
schestowitz"Jun 12 17:45
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2713902Jun 12 17:45
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Amazon is same scummy company which illegally remotely deleted "1984" from people's private devices. Don't buy Kindle http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/AmazonJun 12 17:45
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schestowitz"uses slave labour"Jun 12 17:45
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2714019Jun 12 17:46
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #china press (government, same thing) seems to want #snowden in #russia http://www.china.org.cn/world/2013-06/12/content_29101561.htmJun 12 17:46
TechrightsSocial-> Title: Russia may grant asylum for CIA whistleblower - China.org.cn .::. Size~: 15.09 KBJun 12 17:46
schestowitz"he's snukked up with the mujahidin - or whatever."Jun 12 17:46
schestowitz"the 1930s were better - then the USA was being invaded by the Martians.."Jun 12 17:46
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2714210Jun 12 17:47
TechrightsSocial@luispessoa@joindiaspora.com: Jun 12 17:47
TechrightsSocial  Photo by luispessoa@joindiaspora.com: https://joindiaspora.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/images/thumb_medium_7d02eedddb986aef56b7.jpgJun 12 17:47
schestowitz"IBM was always helpful "Jun 12 17:47
schestowitzhttp://resources3.news.com.au/images/2011/01/09/1225984/697267-germany-eichmann-files.jpgJun 12 17:47
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2714015Jun 12 17:47
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #CIA Chooses: Amazon or IBM?  http://allthingsd.com/20130612/cia-chooses-amazon-or-ibm/ IBM has more experience in this area  http://www.ibmandtheholocaust.com/Jun 12 17:47
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2713978Jun 12 17:48
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The Mirror is now abusing the privacy of #snowden 's girlfriend. This shows the ugly side of #uk press.Jun 12 17:48
schestowitz"the other side is the sport pages"Jun 12 17:49
eikonosi've long wondered why the heck the sports is reported along with the other news?Jun 12 18:13
schestowitz> Sure.  What can I do?Jun 12 18:31
schestowitz> Jun 12 18:31
schestowitz> I'll be out for about an hour now but back after that.  I have solutionsJun 12 18:31
schestowitz> for various SSH scenarios.  Will you be able to have the sameJun 12 18:31
schestowitz> ~/.ssh/config file on all the computers and tablets you use?Jun 12 18:31
schestowitz>Jun 12 18:31
schestowitz> How's the transfer going?Jun 12 18:31
schestowitzToday has not been a good day for me. I overslept and then I failed to catch up with some news I was hoping to get abreast of. I then realised that I could prevent some downtime last week had I noticed that some service I use to give me vocal alert was down but recoverable (with intervention) and an hour ago I found out that all of today's dents never made it into Twitter, and I'm still unsure as to whether it's a temporary Jun 12 18:31
schestowitzissue or not. The pump.io migration in identi.ca will be a massive headache soon as it will render the bots obsolete and I'll try to swap with Toby's own bot.Jun 12 18:31
schestowitzI have only just begun looking into the server and finding out how to grant easy access for my nightly backups and for you. I'll need to sort something better than the current setup out. Well, I'd need to be able to access while away from home or whatever. The keys situation can eb changed, but that's the nest stage. I want to see if I can replicate the server on the staging setup, I have various tests I want to run to ensureJun 12 18:31
schestowitzevery single page and item works perfectly -- I put so much time into the site, I don't want some silent error deep inside the site (when we migrated 4 years ago some Comes stuff was not accessible and it took me a long time to notice this).Jun 12 18:31
schestowitzA lot of the recent issues, including the need for restarts, scripting, waking Tracy up etc. (also when the DB got broken while testing scripts and debugging) were a result of the server not being reliable. It would be worth working to resolve it once and for all, concentrating on stories and not the technical back end. :-)Jun 12 18:31
schestowitzeikonos: some people can't read the newsJun 12 18:32
schestowitzscores are easier to followJun 12 18:32
schestowitzand guys in shortsJun 12 18:32
schestowitzsome macho guys like to watch guys in shorts for whatever reasonsJun 12 18:32
schestowitz https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2710529Jun 12 18:50
TechrightsSocial@thewebalyst@joindiaspora.com: ### Google trust broken? Want your searches to stay private? Try StartPage: http://j.mp/11tmeaR #privacy #search #Google #GoogleSearch #StartPage #PRISM #NSAJun 12 18:50
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schestowitz"Anyone remember the google scraper, "Scroogle"? [Disappeared](http://searchengineland.com/scroogle-org-is-gone-forever-says-site-owner-112245) back in Feb 2012"Jun 12 18:50
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schestowitz"Jun 12 18:54
schestowitzAnother small thing that spoiled my mood today is, some comments that I get I never receive notifications for. I'd like to think that I can read everything people write back.Jun 12 18:54
schestowitzAs for Twitter, it continues to seem as though they have some technical issues. The Twitter Blog and "Status" say nothing about such issues, by RSS feeds for searches don't work (same problem as several days ago, roughly around the time they had another issue), so it's probably not just related to the identi.ca migration or my account individually. Jun 12 18:54
schestowitzI often try to remind myself that nothing is perfect and mis-perfections should be expected. I generally say that, if 90% of the time things go as planned, that's quite decent; it's probably the best mentality with which to cope facing some failures. Over the years Techrights faced DDOS attacks of several kinds and other forms of disruption.Jun 12 18:54
schestowitz"Jun 12 18:54
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2714025Jun 12 19:02
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Wall Street Journal's article titled" Hacking is Like Rape, Says Veteran CIA Profiler" has been removed. Still in cache. #murdoch #wsjJun 12 19:03
schestowitz"Jun 12 19:03
schestowitzone day we'll have the proof that the mother of all conspiracy theorists was the govt.Jun 12 19:03
schestowitzWell.., BBC's "The Power of Nightmares" showed that - but we have to pretend we never saw it.Jun 12 19:03
schestowitz"Jun 12 19:03
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2714025Jun 12 19:04
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Wall Street Journal's article titled" Hacking is Like Rape, Says Veteran CIA Profiler" has been removed. Still in cache. #murdoch #wsjJun 12 19:04
schestowitz" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZacvAXX_Skc - WSJDigitalNetwork on Youtube: Hackers Are Like Rapists, So What Should You Do? "Jun 12 19:04
TechrightsSocialTitle: Hackers Are Like Rapists, So What Should You Do? - YouTube .::. Size~: 202.5 KBJun 12 19:04
schestowitzWhat a nerve she has to make the analogyJun 12 19:06
schestowitzpropaganda nonsenseJun 12 19:06
schestowitzWSJ must have taken it down because ot the complaintsJun 12 19:08
schestowitzSee the ratings and commentsJun 12 19:08
schestowitzNow I finallyJun 12 19:08
schestowitzsee what's in that videoJun 12 19:08
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2714019Jun 12 19:09
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #china press (government, same thing) seems to want #snowden in #russia http://www.china.org.cn/world/2013-06/12/content_29101561.htmJun 12 19:09
schestowitz"the 1930s were better - then the USA was being invaded by the Martians.."Jun 12 19:09
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schestowitz"the 1930s were better - then the USA was being invaded by the Martians.."Jun 12 19:09
schestowitz[20:24] <schestowitz> I have copied all the data over, I created the two database and two database users. 'Old' server uses mysql  Ver 14.12 Distrib 5.0.95, for redhat-linux-gnu (x86_64) using readline 5.1 and new (target) uses mysql  Ver 14.14 Distrib 5.1.66, for redhat-linux-gnu (x86_64) using readline 5.1. Trying to import from last night's mysql dump fails for me, but aside from that it seems just about readyJun 12 20:34
schestowitzI have also done some file counting just as a second-level assurance that all the files are in place.Jun 12 20:34
schestowitz> Have you tried dumping / restoring just the database structure by itselfJun 12 20:50
schestowitz> first?  Then the data can be brought over separately.Jun 12 20:50
schestowitz> Jun 12 20:50
schestowitz> mysqldump --add-drop-database --add-drop-table \Jun 12 20:50
schestowitz> --create-options --no-data foobarJun 12 20:50
schestowitz> Jun 12 20:50
schestowitz> Where foobar is the name of the database.Jun 12 20:50
schestowitz> Jun 12 20:50
schestowitz> PS.  Somehow a lot of the messages from you are unencrypted. Not sureJun 12 20:50
schestowitz> that's a big deal but is uncommon.Jun 12 20:50
schestowitzRunning the above (with login credentials) on the 'new' server gives me:Jun 12 20:50
schestowitz-- MySQL dump 10.13  Distrib 5.1.66, for redhat-linux-gnu (x86_64)Jun 12 20:50
schestowitz--Jun 12 20:50
schestowitz-- Host: localhost    Database: boycottn_wikiJun 12 20:50
schestowitz-- ------------------------------------------------------Jun 12 20:50
schestowitz-- Server version       5.1.66Jun 12 20:50
schestowitz/*!40101 SET @OLD_CHARACTER_SET_CLIENT=@@CHARACTER_SET_CLIENT */;Jun 12 20:50
schestowitz/*!40101 SET @OLD_CHARACTER_SET_RESULTS=@@CHARACTER_SET_RESULTS */;Jun 12 20:50
schestowitz/*!40101 SET @OLD_COLLATION_CONNECTION=@@COLLATION_CONNECTION */;Jun 12 20:50
schestowitz/*!40101 SET NAMES utf8 */;Jun 12 20:50
schestowitz/*!40103 SET @OLD_TIME_ZONE=@@TIME_ZONE */;Jun 12 20:50
schestowitz/*!40103 SET TIME_ZONE='+00:00' */;Jun 12 20:50
schestowitz/*!40014 SET @OLD_UNIQUE_CHECKS=@@UNIQUE_CHECKS, UNIQUE_CHECKS=0 */;Jun 12 20:50
schestowitz/*!40014 SET @OLD_FOREIGN_KEY_CHECKS=@@FOREIGN_KEY_CHECKS, FOREIGN_KEY_CHECKS=0 */;Jun 12 20:50
schestowitz/*!40101 SET @OLD_SQL_MODE=@@SQL_MODE, SQL_MODE='NO_AUTO_VALUE_ON_ZERO' */;Jun 12 20:50
schestowitz/*!40111 SET @OLD_SQL_NOTES=@@SQL_NOTES, SQL_NOTES=0 */;Jun 12 20:50
schestowitz/*!40103 SET TIME_ZONE=@OLD_TIME_ZONE */;Jun 12 20:50
schestowitz/*!40101 SET SQL_MODE=@OLD_SQL_MODE */;Jun 12 20:50
schestowitz/*!40014 SET FOREIGN_KEY_CHECKS=@OLD_FOREIGN_KEY_CHECKS */;Jun 12 20:50
schestowitz/*!40014 SET UNIQUE_CHECKS=@OLD_UNIQUE_CHECKS */;Jun 12 20:50
schestowitz/*!40101 SET CHARACTER_SET_CLIENT=@OLD_CHARACTER_SET_CLIENT */;Jun 12 20:50
schestowitz/*!40101 SET CHARACTER_SET_RESULTS=@OLD_CHARACTER_SET_RESULTS */;Jun 12 20:50
schestowitz/*!40101 SET COLLATION_CONNECTION=@OLD_COLLATION_CONNECTION */;Jun 12 20:50
schestowitz/*!40111 SET SQL_NOTES=@OLD_SQL_NOTES */;Jun 12 20:50
schestowitzWhen importing (resorting to empty) the database I still get:Jun 12 20:50
schestowitz"ERROR 1064 (42000) at line 1: You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near ]߷Q"Jun 12 20:50
eikonosmaybe a unicode BOM at the top of the file?Jun 12 20:51
schestowitzyeahJun 12 20:53
schestowitzBut..Jun 12 20:53
schestowitzIt did work well a while back on the 'old' serverJun 12 20:54
schestowitzlet me try the other DB...Jun 12 20:54
schestowitzexact same problemJun 12 20:55
schestowitzso at least it's consistentJun 12 20:55
schestowitzcan I resotre a DB without all the tables in it already in place. I'm sure that's how it works, I used to have the restores shown in plain text, it starts by CREATE TABLE statementsJun 12 20:55
eikonosmichael morell (CIA deputy director) is retiring to "spend more time with his family"Jun 12 20:59
schestowitz:-)Jun 12 21:00
schestowitzthey always say thatJun 12 21:00
schestowitz>> Running the above (with login credentials) on the 'new' server gives me:Jun 12 21:00
schestowitz> [snip]Jun 12 21:00
schestowitz> Jun 12 21:00
schestowitz> It should give sql statements to create the database and create theJun 12 21:00
schestowitz> tables with the fields and such.Jun 12 21:00
schestowitzI tested to see the DB name and username are OK. It seems to be so. Do I really need to put the skeleton of the data (tables and fields) before restoring from mysqldump? I doubt it, I think it's already included at the start of each dump, IIRC. Either way, attempting to restore both DBs yields the same error. If I get past this barrier, then I think updating DNS entries is imminent, assuming we can test on the subsite (the Jun 12 21:00
schestowitzissue is, the CMS thinks it's not in the subsite, so it keeps diverting to the 'old' server).Jun 12 21:00
schestowitz Jun 12 21:00
schestowitz>> When importing (resorting to empty) the database I still get:Jun 12 21:00
schestowitz>> Jun 12 21:00
schestowitz>> "ERROR 1064 (42000) at line 1: You have an error in your SQL syntax;Jun 12 21:00
schestowitz>> check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for theJun 12 21:00
schestowitz>> right syntax to use near ]?Q"Jun 12 21:00
schestowitz> Jun 12 21:00
schestowitz> Are the two versions different enough that you might have to parse theJun 12 21:00
schestowitz> old dump into a new format?Jun 12 21:00
schestowitzThe two versions seem similar enough. I saw one thread about a similar error. http://wordpress.org/support/topic/mysql-restore-difficulties-error-in-sql-syntax I saw several more problems of this kind, but none of them helps find a solution, yet.Jun 12 21:00
TechrightsSocialTitle: WordPress › Support » MySQL Restore Difficulties -- error in SQL syntax .::. Size~: 16.33 KBJun 12 21:00
schestowitzeikonos: CIA people, good at killing other familties in the name of "national security"Jun 12 21:00
schestowitzAnd then putting their own family to sleep, in bed, not the death senseJun 12 21:00
eikonos"national security" is code for "political embarrassment"Jun 12 21:01
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2714193Jun 12 21:01
schestowitz"Jun 12 21:01
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #snowden contradicts media #propaganda which describes him - like #assange - as "in hiding" or "holed up" http://www.boston.com/news/nation/2013/06/12/nsa-leaker-says-not-trying-hide/fv4HSSjAWvZLf1k8hDQjRP/story.htmlJun 12 21:01
TechrightsSocial-> Title: NSA leaker says he’s not trying to hide - Boston.com .::. Size~: 35.46 KBJun 12 21:01
schestowitzIt is a lock-step PR campaign coordinated across Globalist news networks in the States. The MSNBC/Fox/CNN/CIA (Fortune 500 ) talking points are that he's on the run.Jun 12 21:01
schestowitzThis likely means that he will disappear soon, be tortured and threatened, and come back indicating he was working for China (or Russia) all along. Or maybe go along with a character assassination campaign to save family members. He was smart to go public; he can't be killed outright. Hopefully he can blink Morse code for his upcoming N.Korean-style "confession".Jun 12 21:01
schestowitz"Jun 12 21:01
schestowitzeikonos: wikileaks started a lot of thisJun 12 21:01
schestowitzwith help from tor and othersJun 12 21:01
schestowitzWikileaks got manning's inpuitJun 12 21:02
schestowitzwhich then inpired othersJun 12 21:02
schestowitzit embarassed the secret US stablishment and they didn't know quite how to handle itJun 12 21:02
schestowitzNot it's going out of controlJun 12 21:02
eikonosand the more they clench their $whatevers, the worse it will getJun 12 21:03
eikonosi won't be surprised if more leaders decide to spend time with their familiesJun 12 21:03
eikonoswas it his conscience, too much stress, or was he pushed?Jun 12 21:08
schestowitz> It is an annoyance when automated notifications don't function asJun 12 21:09
schestowitz> expected.Jun 12 21:09
schestowitzI knew it wasn't functioning. It could help prompt me when to restart apache. Anyway, that's in the past now.Jun 12 21:09
schestowitz> A lot of sites and services these days are not so good about fessing upJun 12 21:09
schestowitz> to outages and disruptions.  Some of it is that the organizations haveJun 12 21:09
schestowitz> become big and unwieldy.  Other aspects are the in bureaucraticJun 12 21:09
schestowitz> organizations there is a tendency to cover things up and/or brush thingsJun 12 21:09
schestowitz> under the rug.Jun 12 21:09
schestowitzDoing the minimum it takes for job security. But when you're the one who's the main stakeholder, then it matters more. I've just recalled with my wife how in April 2006 in Miami I spoke to my aunt about how I'd like to keep out of being some cogwheel in a company and now with Techrights it feels a little close to it, as it keeps growing and also becomes harder to maintain.Jun 12 21:09
schestowitz Jun 12 21:09
schestowitz> The new server should help with a lot of the maintenance annoyances.  OrJun 12 21:09
schestowitz> so I hope.Jun 12 21:09
schestowitzFor one thing, it's a belated and needed upgrade. In the long term it will give better performance (pageloads are too slow these days), I hope, not just fewer issues. I had to sort of use backported php just to keep wordpress (latest version) going on the 'old' server. it's getting hard to keep up.Jun 12 21:09
schestowitz Jun 12 21:09
schestowitz> About SSH, if everything has to be key-based then you'll probably wantJun 12 21:09
schestowitz> to have a key on your phone and maybe a USB stick with PuTTY and a fewJun 12 21:09
schestowitz> other programs or even a live CD image.Jun 12 21:09
schestowitz> Jun 12 21:09
schestowitz> I put my notes on connecting here:Jun 12 21:09
schestowitz> Jun 12 21:09
schestowitz> https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/OpenSSH/Cookbook/Proxies_and_Jump_Hosts#Jump_Hosts_--_Passing_through_a_gateway_or_twoJun 12 21:09
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schestowitz> Jun 12 21:09
schestowitz> They're based mostly on what I had to do for the labs when I wasJun 12 21:09
schestowitz> teaching.  The lab computers were not directly accessible from theJun 12 21:09
schestowitz> outside.Jun 12 21:09
schestowitzThe only server requiring keys is the gateway. When the server goes live maybe we can set up access the old way, perhaps even preserving the old IP address (I chose to keep username the same for consistency).Jun 12 21:10
schestowitz> One shortcoming with SSH is that if you have a key in the agent for aJun 12 21:10
schestowitz> remote host, other keys will be ignored even if they are specified atJun 12 21:10
schestowitz> the command line.  I'm not sure if that has been accepted as a bug orJun 12 21:10
schestowitz> not, but that is how it is for right now.Jun 12 21:10
schestowitzeikonos: any links re that CIA news?Jun 12 21:10
schestowitzI'd link to that later with some remarksJun 12 21:10
schestowitzI looked at CIA news some hours ago and didn't see any such item of newsJun 12 21:10
eikonosjust nprJun 12 21:10
eikonosi personally don't care for NPRJun 12 21:10
eikonosit's like the BBC after a pretty serious lobotomyJun 12 21:10
eikonos"Morell has been deputy director of the CIA since 2010. He will now join the presidential intelligence advisory board, according to Reuters."Jun 12 21:12
eikonosthere's a wapo article too, but i try to avoid them tooJun 12 21:12
schestowitz> Data and structure can be imported at the same time, but just theJun 12 21:12
schestowitz> structure alone makes for a smaller file.Jun 12 21:12
schestowitz> Jun 12 21:12
eikonos"Morell told the Post that he decided to resign last month to "devote more attention to my family." He has three college-aged children, and emphasized that the resignation was his choice."Jun 12 21:12
schestowitz> About the error "at line 1", which SQL statement is causing the error?Jun 12 21:12
schestowitz> Can you work with that one line separately to figure out what needs toJun 12 21:12
schestowitz> change?Jun 12 21:12
schestowitz> Jun 12 21:12
schestowitz> My MySQL experience is a hold over from 2000-2006, so it's a little outJun 12 21:12
schestowitz> of date.Jun 12 21:12
schestowitz> Jun 12 21:12
schestowitz> Hopefully parsing with Perl is not in the future.Jun 12 21:13
schestowitzI'll wait for Tracy to give his opinion. In any case we can't go live without the DNS being changed. I won't be making live dumps of MySQL until we are very much ready to migrate. I need not to upload any new files now, unless I replicate them (keeping things in sync).Jun 12 21:13
schestowitzthanksJun 12 21:14
schestowitz> Ok.  I should be online tomorrow as usual.Jun 12 21:41
schestowitzI hope Twitter will work properly tomorrow. That's where my bigger audience seems to be, for now... Twitter has been declining in impact, must always move between platforms in advocating ethical technology.Jun 12 21:41
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2713476Jun 12 23:13
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Google contradicts what the #nsa is saying. One of them (or both) is lying. Since their statements are coordinated, it's both.Jun 12 23:13
schestowitz"Could you elaborate?"Jun 12 23:13
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schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CP8CNp-vkscJun 12 23:27
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schestowitzJune 2013 Artwork II http://schestowitz.com/royrianne/gallery/index.php/June-2013-Artwork-IIJun 12 23:53
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