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| DaemonFC | I've actually called Walmart's district office a few times. | Jul 12 00:09 |
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| DaemonFC | In the last email I wrote to them, I told them that the store looked like it was having a going out of business sale and that it took me over 30 minutes to check out. | Jul 12 00:10 |
| DaemonFC | They keep having managers call me and promising to fix the problems, and every time I walk in the store, it's actually worse. | Jul 12 00:10 |
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| DaemonFC | From a conversation with someone else: | Jul 12 03:37 |
| DaemonFC | McAfee themselves have been using malware-style distribution tactics lately. | Jul 12 03:37 |
| DaemonFC | Somehow this McAfee Security Scan thing got on Dave's computer. | Jul 12 03:37 |
| DaemonFC | It pops up a box saying you should buy McAfee every now and then, and as far as I can tell, that's all it does. | Jul 12 03:38 |
| DaemonFC | Probably came bundled with some "freeware" he installed. | Jul 12 03:38 |
| DaemonFC | Person I'm talking to: "they say there's still possible exploits with the router, but idk what that means" | Jul 12 03:41 |
| DaemonFC | Me: | Jul 12 03:41 |
| DaemonFC | Some routers have security vulnerabilities in their firmware which can be used to temporarily install malware on them. | Jul 12 03:41 |
| DaemonFC | It's non-persistent. It goes away if you pull the power cable out and plug it back in. | Jul 12 03:41 |
| DaemonFC | Since you have to do that 20 times a day with Comcast anyway, it's never really concerned me too much. :P | Jul 12 03:41 |
| DaemonFC | msb_ knows what I'm talking about. | Jul 12 03:42 |
| DaemonFC | He's a fellow Comcast victim. | Jul 12 03:42 |
| DaemonFC | They really should just combine your Comcast bill into the RAPE column. They claim they made the bill easier to understand, but I still don't understand how an ISP gets away with charging $70 a month for internet-only. Well, yes I do. Crooked politicians. | Jul 12 03:43 |
| msb_ | I got raped by Comcast last night and this morning. | Jul 12 03:45 |
| msb_ | My Internet and phone went out for an hour. When it came back I called them up and they said there had been an outage. | Jul 12 03:46 |
| DaemonFC | I managed to talk them down to $50, and now I get a bill that says I saved $20 a month with Comcast. | Jul 12 03:46 |
| msb_ | That was 2AM. | Jul 12 03:46 |
| DaemonFC | I should move to Sweden. The whole fucking bill will be $20. | Jul 12 03:46 |
| DaemonFC | Those fucking Comcast fucks. | Jul 12 03:46 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jul 12 03:46 |
| DaemonFC | msb_: My internet service was up for a total of about an hour yesterday. | Jul 12 03:47 |
| msb_ | 830AM the phone rings, waking me up. It's Comcrap's computer telling me there had been an outage. | Jul 12 03:47 |
| DaemonFC | And it's been up and down all day today. It disconnects and immediately starts reconnecting. | Jul 12 03:47 |
| DaemonFC | It's worse than America Online in 1998. | Jul 12 03:47 |
| msb_ | Let's do the Time Warp again! | Jul 12 03:48 |
| DaemonFC | I thought AOL was bad. | Jul 12 03:48 |
| DaemonFC | Well, it was bad. | Jul 12 03:48 |
| msb_ | So I call them this morning, to tell them not to have their goddamn computer call me again. | Jul 12 03:49 |
| DaemonFC | Pay $25 a month for dial up (1998 prices, so that's probably $40 or more now). | Jul 12 03:49 |
| DaemonFC | Then busy signals, disconnects. | Jul 12 03:49 |
| DaemonFC | You got to use it for maybe an hour every day if you were lucky. | Jul 12 03:49 |
| DaemonFC | So basically the 1990s version of Comcast. | Jul 12 03:49 |
| msb_ | I get two Philipino women in a row (after waiting 5 minutes for each one), neither of which could speak or understand English. | Jul 12 03:49 |
| msb_ | Well, that's OK. We only have 25% unemployment here in the US. | Jul 12 03:50 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah. | Jul 12 03:50 |
| DaemonFC | Well, 7.8% if you count everyone that's working at least an hour a week, and don't count all the people who have lost their unemployment benefits. | Jul 12 03:51 |
| DaemonFC | That's the number the politicians like to point to because it makes them look better. | Jul 12 03:51 |
| msb_ | And don't count everyone who has given up because they know there aren't any jobs. | Jul 12 03:52 |
| DaemonFC | msb_: Their system called me last night at 11:30 to tell me the internet service was back up. Woke me up after an hour's sleep, no less. | Jul 12 03:52 |
| msb_ | Shit! | Jul 12 03:52 |
| DaemonFC | [22:52] <msb_> And don't count everyone who has given up because they know there aren't any jobs. | Jul 12 03:52 |
| DaemonFC | That's called LEAVING THE LABOR FORCE! | Jul 12 03:53 |
| DaemonFC | BWAHAHAHAAA!!! | Jul 12 03:53 |
| DaemonFC | A polite way of saying, people who have moved back in with their parents, took the early retirement penalty, or found a way onto Social Security Disability. | Jul 12 03:53 |
| DaemonFC | Or are sleeping under a bridge or in a homeless shelter. | Jul 12 03:54 |
| msb_ | http://www.pslweb.org/liberationnews/news/food-loaded-into-dumpsters.html | Jul 12 03:54 |
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| DaemonFC | They also don't count prisoners. | Jul 12 03:54 |
| DaemonFC | They really should. So much work that doesn't get outsourced goes to prisoners. | Jul 12 03:54 |
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| DaemonFC | It's a way of having slavery in the US without anyone having to watch it happen. | Jul 12 03:54 |
| DaemonFC | It would be gut wrenching if people had to see it, so they just convict as many people as possible (mostly for minor drug possession) and make them work for 20 cents an hour. | Jul 12 03:55 |
| msb_ | Bank and sheriff in Augusta Georgia USA destroy food in front of starving people. | Jul 12 03:55 |
| DaemonFC | Nobody cares because they're "prisoners". | Jul 12 03:56 |
| DaemonFC | A lot of the companies that are bringing call center jobs back to the US give them to prisoners. | Jul 12 03:56 |
| DaemonFC | So when you're reading off your Social Security number to Comcast or your bank or something, you might be speaking with a convicted rapist who works for 20 cents an hour in a US prison. | Jul 12 03:57 |
| DaemonFC | Carlin said this country's basically finished. | Jul 12 03:57 |
| DaemonFC | damned right | Jul 12 03:57 |
| msb_ | Or someone convicted of drug possession who wasn't even hurting himself, let alone anyone else. | Jul 12 03:57 |
| DaemonFC | When more people go on disability in a month than find jobs, you know he's right. | Jul 12 03:58 |
| DaemonFC | If you take three people at random out of the bottom 90% of the country and have to guess what's happening to them in the next year, one will probably be in prison, one will probably be on Social Security, and the third one might find a job at Walmart. | Jul 12 03:59 |
| DaemonFC | Truly sad. | Jul 12 03:59 |
| msb_ | The banks are manipulating the money supply, the govt is cutting off water to farms, to reduce the US to a Third World country so we won't interfere with the total NWO takeover. | Jul 12 03:59 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah. The federal government is telling farmers not to grow anything and paying them a stipend for all the land that isn't growing food. | Jul 12 04:00 |
| DaemonFC | They say it's for water conservation, but that's bullshit. | Jul 12 04:00 |
| DaemonFC | It's to drive food prices higher. | Jul 12 04:00 |
| msb_ | http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Y_j2Dbf2a8I | Jul 12 04:00 |
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| DaemonFC | It's the same reason that there are programs to throw away a certain amount of raisins every year. | Jul 12 04:01 |
| DaemonFC | Cheese is 53% more expensive in the US than the world average, for example. | Jul 12 04:01 |
| DaemonFC | You get those prices by paying farmers to pour some of the milk down the drain. | Jul 12 04:01 |
| DaemonFC | Well, going back to banksters and monetary policy, it doesn't really matter what the tax rates are. | Jul 12 04:02 |
| msb_ | Hundreds of FEMA concentration camps, 1.5 billion dum-dum bullets for DHS, 3000 light tanks, NDAA now allows any American to be arrested and held indefinitely with no charge. | Jul 12 04:02 |
| DaemonFC | If the government can triple the money supply in the course of five years, everyone who has dollars anywhere in the world is being taxed. | Jul 12 04:02 |
| msb_ | All this in news clips from corporate TV news in that video. | Jul 12 04:03 |
| DaemonFC | It doesn't really even make sense for them to have an official tax when they fund most things by inflating the money supply. | Jul 12 04:03 |
| msb_ | All the preparations for a Martial Law police state in the US are now in place. | Jul 12 04:03 |
| DaemonFC | It's how they paid for every war since the civil war. | Jul 12 04:03 |
| DaemonFC | Nobody wants their "taxes" raised to cover $7 trillion of Iraq/Afghanistan expenses. | Jul 12 04:04 |
| DaemonFC | So the government just prints off money to cover it, and everyone who has US dollars gets some of the value shaved off of them to pay back the lenders. | Jul 12 04:05 |
| DaemonFC | It's easier to manipulate money than it is to levy a tax. | Jul 12 04:05 |
| DaemonFC | There's no way to avoid having the value of your money taken away. | Jul 12 04:05 |
| msb_ | It's simple. The private banks comprising the "Federal Reserve" system print money out of nothing and loan it to the US govt at interest. How'd you like to have that job? | Jul 12 04:05 |
| DaemonFC | It's basically legal counterfeiting. | Jul 12 04:06 |
| DaemonFC | Counterfeiting is illegal because it causes inflation and damages the economy, but the banks get away with doing it on a scale of a thousand times larger every single day. | Jul 12 04:06 |
| msb_ | Was it Woodrow Wilson who said after he signed the Federal Reserve Act, "I think I've just destroyed the country." or something to that effect. | Jul 12 04:07 |
| DaemonFC | The real reason it's illegal for you or me to counterfeit money is because it causes inflation that they don't control, and the resulting money can be spent however the counterfeiter sees fit to spend it. | Jul 12 04:07 |
| DaemonFC | The first government of the United States experienced severe hyperinflation because the United Kingdom counterfeited ten times as much money as was officially in circulation. | Jul 12 04:08 |
| DaemonFC | It *did* destroy the economy, and the value of the original US Dollar. | Jul 12 04:08 |
| DaemonFC | It's how the phrase "Not worth a Continental." came into use. | Jul 12 04:09 |
| DaemonFC | The banks have done the same thing, just not as quickly. | Jul 12 04:09 |
| DaemonFC | If people woke up tomorrow and everything cost 100 times what it did today, they'd be pissed and heads would roll. | Jul 12 04:09 |
| DaemonFC | In my lifetime, just under 30 years, the value of a dollar has been cut by more than half. | Jul 12 04:10 |
| msb_ | http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=eKqs7GJ0jdY#! | Jul 12 04:10 |
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| DaemonFC | It was all legal, because a bank did it. | Jul 12 04:10 |
| DaemonFC | It's slow scale theft. | Jul 12 04:11 |
| DaemonFC | Every month, your money buys about 0.1-0.3% less than you could have bought last month. | Jul 12 04:11 |
| DaemonFC | It happens so slowly that people begin to regard it as a natural phenomenon. | Jul 12 04:11 |
| DaemonFC | Banks aren't the only ones that can cause inflation though. | Jul 12 04:12 |
| DaemonFC | Sometimes inflation can be caused by people who expect inflation. | Jul 12 04:12 |
| msb_ | When I was a kid, 60 years ago, good meat cost 25cents/pound. Now it's at least ten times that much. The dollar has lost 90% of it's value in 60 years. | Jul 12 04:13 |
| DaemonFC | Say you think a really useful widget will double in price tomorrow, and so does everyone else. They go and buy all they can, expecting the price to go up, and then it does. | Jul 12 04:13 |
| DaemonFC | Because the demand created itself by expectation of a price hike. | Jul 12 04:13 |
| msb_ | Not widgets so much, as food. | Jul 12 04:14 |
| msb_ | Which, BTW, is also poisoned. | Jul 12 04:14 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah. I remember when I was a kid, you could buy a bag of M&M's at the convenience store for like 29 cents. | Jul 12 04:15 |
| DaemonFC | Now they're like 60 cents. | Jul 12 04:15 |
| msb_ | Feed rats GMO grain for 3 generations and there won't be a fourth. | Jul 12 04:15 |
| DaemonFC | A 48 ounce fountain soda was 59 cents, now it's like $1.15 | Jul 12 04:15 |
| msb_ | But there are laws _preventing_ food companies from labelling food GMO-free if it is. | Jul 12 04:16 |
| DaemonFC | Well, the UN wants birth rates to go down. | Jul 12 04:16 |
| DaemonFC | And they have. | Jul 12 04:16 |
| DaemonFC | They're as low as they've been in the hundred years the government has tracked it. | Jul 12 04:16 |
| DaemonFC | They want to exterminate and weaken the poor so they're not a threat and so social spending can go down. | Jul 12 04:17 |
| msb_ | So we can't fight back. | Jul 12 04:17 |
| msb_ | This is important. Get US soldiers and police to promise they won't fire on American citizens: http://oathkeepers.org/oath/ | Jul 12 04:21 |
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| msb_ | This is very good: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPiZJ5N9TkY | Jul 12 04:23 |
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| DaemonFC | I think it's pretty damned scary that prisons are being turned into the new workhouses for the poor. | Jul 12 05:00 |
| DaemonFC | The message is "Don't be poor or this will happen to you!". | Jul 12 05:00 |
| DaemonFC | It gives the states that profit this way a perverse incentive to overreact to minor crimes. | Jul 12 05:01 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.alternet.org/saggy-pants-legislation-latest-racial-profiling-laws?paging=off | Jul 12 05:04 |
| DaemonFC | lol | Jul 12 05:04 |
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| DaemonFC | Pull your damned pants up! | Jul 12 05:04 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.amazon.com/forum/politics/ref=cm_cd_tfp_ef_tft_tp?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx1S3QSZRUL93V8&cdThread=Tx2PVQI1QNJJ7TO | Jul 12 05:10 |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.amazon.com/forum/politics/ref=cm_cd_tfp_ef_tft_tp?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx1S3QSZRUL93V8&cdThread=Tx29R921NEBXLIC | Jul 12 05:23 |
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| DaemonFC | Leigh says: | Jul 12 05:23 |
| DaemonFC | Local TV station, getting "average woman in parking lot" comments on DC's new passed "living wage" law (which the mayor is under intense pressure not to sign). "Jobs give you 40 hours a week, and enoigh pay to buy more than the gas to get there." | Jul 12 05:23 |
| DaemonFC | Tell it, sister! | Jul 12 05:23 |
| DaemonFC | ZOMG PINK PONIES says: | Jul 12 05:27 |
| DaemonFC | With gas at $4 a gallon in Indiana, you basically end up working about 45 minutes for free just to get there and back. | Jul 12 05:27 |
| DaemonFC | Since they don't even provide something resembling a job anymore (in the time since I left), just these little 4-6 hour mini-shifts, you're already in trouble as soon as you apply for a job there. It's impossible to earn enough money there to get by, much less get ahead. | Jul 12 05:27 |
| DaemonFC | ZOMG PINK PONIES says: | Jul 12 05:29 |
| DaemonFC | I decided to figure out what else you could do that would make you as much money as working 28 hours a week at Walmart. | Jul 12 05:29 |
| DaemonFC | There was an ad on Craigslist a few days ago where they were paying more money and giving more hours if you would sign up to mow lawns. | Jul 12 05:29 |
| DaemonFC | When people who cut grass make more money than you do, you're officially at the deadest dead end job ever. | Jul 12 05:29 |
| DaemonFC | ZOMG PINK PONIES says: | Jul 12 05:36 |
| DaemonFC | If Al Bundy walks up to the cash register, points at you, and goes "HAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!!", you might work at Walmart. | Jul 12 05:36 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVg5QqJoxuU | Jul 12 05:38 |
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| DaemonFC | :) | Jul 12 05:39 |
| cubezzz | Comes document 3096 is always popping up these days | Jul 12 05:46 |
| DaemonFC | Kroger sent out an ad that says they lowered prices on thousands of items. | Jul 12 05:48 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, right... | Jul 12 05:49 |
| DaemonFC | Every time they say that, it just gets worse. | Jul 12 05:49 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150663 | Jul 12 06:13 |
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| DaemonFC | $64.99 after MIR | Jul 12 06:13 |
| DaemonFC | That's a good price. | Jul 12 06:13 |
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| schestowitz | pump.io is crap | Jul 12 07:41 |
| schestowitz | I am going to create a site in Techrights to do social networking | Jul 12 07:42 |
| schestowitz | Just sent this to Evan: "Oh, I forget something. Can the same be done (exporting data) for accounts boycottnovell, techbytes, techrights, and bytesmedia. Together wih account schestowitz I will have everything (5 accounts) imported to my statunet instance. You said you would E-mail me a link to backup as the site was timing out and later just trimming my data." | Jul 12 07:42 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2825922 | Jul 12 07:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Are You Making #PRISM or Other #NSA Changes? http://fossforce.com/2013/07/are-you-making-prism-or-other-nsa-changes/ A Free software perspective | Jul 12 07:42 |
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| schestowitz | "https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2825922" | Jul 12 07:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Are You Making #PRISM or Other #NSA Changes? http://fossforce.com/2013/07/are-you-making-prism-or-other-nsa-changes/ A Free software perspective | Jul 12 07:42 |
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| schestowitz | "I believe @Jesse is right. As I understood it, the rule seemed to be that the NSA could hold on to encrypted communications indefinitely, until they'd been decrypted, at which point the five year clock starts ticking." | Jul 12 07:43 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2831015 | Jul 12 07:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Longtime #Microsoft Booster Becomes Senior Editor at #Slashdot http://techrights.org/2013/07/11/slashdot-nicholas-kolakowski/ | Jul 12 07:43 |
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| schestowitz | "Joy, here comes the FUD!" | Jul 12 07:43 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2824220 | Jul 12 07:45 |
| schestowitz | "Here you go. http://173.21.69.124/photoalbum/chron/2013/20130711-4mlgames_vm/ Thanks for sharing." | Jul 12 07:45 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Play Old-School FPS Games Doom and Quake in 4MLinux Game Edition 6.1 http://news.softpedia.com/news/Play-Old-School-FPS-Games-Doom-and-Quake-in-4MLinux-Game-Edition-6-1-366319.shtml #games #gnu #linux | Jul 12 07:45 |
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| schestowitz | ABC evokes 9/11 again, with OBL flavour http://www.14news.com/story/22821156/commissions-report-reveals-bin-ladens-activites | Jul 12 07:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Commission's report reveals bin Laden's activities - 14 News, WFIE, Evansville, Henderson, Owensboro .::. Size~: 51.19 KB | Jul 12 07:53 |
| schestowitz | NBC | Jul 12 07:53 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.amazon.com/forum/politics?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx1S3QSZRUL93V8&cdMSG=addedToThread&cdPage=1&cdThread=Tx3W0701OXGVP83&newContentID=Mx1WJQBWKVS4EN5&newContentNum=2#CustomerDiscussionsNRPB | Jul 12 07:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Amazon.com: Customer Discussions: Indiana Republicans take a break from jacking up regressive taxes, cutting social services, making college unaffordable to the peasants, and generally doing nothing about the high unemployment rate, to make gay marriage a Class D Felony. .::. Size~: 191.67 KB | Jul 12 07:59 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2830993# | Jul 12 08:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Confirmed: #Microsoft Colluded With the NSA in Criminal #Surveillance http://techrights.org/2013/07/11/microsoft-nsa-direct-access/ | Jul 12 08:14 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 12 08:14 |
| schestowitz | I wonder, does the telecommunications immunity retroactively given to the carriers extend to software manufacturers or apply at all to Microsoft? https://www.cdt.org/pr_statement/senate-sends-fisa-legislation-president-signature | Jul 12 08:14 |
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| schestowitz | Ancillary to that, it would appear a whole lot of people knew about the surveillance at the top of the telecom industry, and their lawyers panicked once they realized it was inevitable that the public find out about a net that so large it is as big as the planet, and that it was utterly illegal and unlawful and the government cannot be sued, leaving just them to dangle in the fickle wind of litigation. | Jul 12 08:14 |
| schestowitz | http://dailycaller.com/2013/06/13/jailed-qwest-ceo-claimed-that-nsa-retaliated-because-he-wouldnt-participate-in-spy-program/ And the one guy who told them to take a hike is suddenly found to be guilty of insider trading when he told them no? There isn't any chance they used their illegal behavior to out his illegal behavior to keep him from talking, is there? Not the good and noble government of the great and | Jul 12 08:14 |
| schestowitz | honorable united states! /belushi on nooooooOOooOOoOOOoooo. /belushi off | Jul 12 08:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Qwest CEO claimed gov't retaliated for not participating in spy program | The Daily Caller .::. Size~: 82.64 KB | Jul 12 08:14 |
| schestowitz | I mean would the people who built an illegal and unlawful dragnet the size of the entire planet to hide their gross incompetence and complete lack of ethics misuse their misuse of authority to hide their misuse of authority? wait.. | Jul 12 08:14 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 12 08:14 |
| schestowitz | We have known for quite some time about surveillance (I knew since the early 90s), but now we get to see who is also a liar: Clapper, Alexander, Microsoft, Google, FB... | Jul 12 08:15 |
| DaemonFC | B. A. Dilger says: | Jul 12 08:15 |
| DaemonFC | Like all technologies wind power has its pros and cons: | Jul 12 08:15 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.windpowerfacts.org/wind-energy-pros-and-cons/ | Jul 12 08:15 |
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| DaemonFC | ZOMG PINK PONIES says: | Jul 12 08:16 |
| DaemonFC | "Danger to wildlife. Flying birds may be compromised during flight between the turbine blades." | Jul 12 08:16 |
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| DaemonFC | Thanks to MinceR for that image. He posted it here a while back. | Jul 12 08:16 |
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| schestowitz | I love this track https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvscLFu3mWs | Jul 12 12:58 |
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| schestowitz | "no worries. I saw that you were interested in open source and thought I'd mention it ;-)" | Jul 12 13:03 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/BlenderNation/status/355646892459302912 | Jul 12 13:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a tweet? | Jul 12 13:03 |
| schestowitz | I wrote about Bledner hundreds of times, wife and I love Blender-made movies, but never used it | Jul 12 13:03 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/gnutelephony/status/355664901630459907 | Jul 12 13:32 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a tweet? | Jul 12 13:32 |
| schestowitz | "like Claudius who was expected to restore the Republic, he instead institutionalized the empire, thereby making it enduring" | Jul 12 13:32 |
| schestowitz | !google obama I'm not a tyrant youtube | Jul 12 13:32 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Obama: "I'm Not a Dictator." Believe Him? - WSJ Opinion - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3Dc37NFpgVnDw | Jul 12 13:32 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Obama: "I am not a dictator, I'm the president" - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DQIVaa37mZv4 | Jul 12 13:32 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Obama: 'I Am Not a Dictator, I'm the President' - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DsSxn-SmGT24 | Jul 12 13:32 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Obama - I'm Not a Dictator or Judge - March 1, 2013 ... - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3Dg9P_Xji4Qog | Jul 12 13:32 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c37NFpgVnDw | Jul 12 13:33 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2825922# | Jul 12 13:38 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Are You Making #PRISM or Other #NSA Changes? http://fossforce.com/2013/07/are-you-making-prism-or-other-nsa-changes/ A Free software perspective | Jul 12 13:38 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> Title: Are You Making PRISM or Other NSA Changes? « FOSS ForceFOSS Force .::. Size~: 64.8 KB | Jul 12 13:38 |
| schestowitz | I can see the points raised about encryption; however, if content is decrypted to reveal something as innocent (yet personal) as "ooh, I really like that thing you did when we were in bed last night", then there's not too much to worry about - apart from the embarrassment of the individual reading your decoded message. Of course, there's the whole 'constitutional breech' on their part... I've merely kept my | Jul 12 13:38 |
| schestowitz | intended communication limited as best I can (between me and recipient) - or at the very least, away from Google's prying, data-hungry eyes. | Jul 12 13:38 |
| schestowitz | They could keep my decrypted message for decades for all I care, it won't change the fact that it was an unconstitutional, warrantless search - nor does it change the innocence of the communication. | Jul 12 13:38 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 12 13:38 |
| schestowitz | I sense a bad grasp here on the matter of privacy. | Jul 12 13:38 |
| schestowitz | !google nothing to hide goebbels | Jul 12 13:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Joseph Goebbels - Wikiquote | http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Joseph_Goebbels | Jul 12 13:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - I SPY- You have nothing to fear, if you have nothing to hide–Joseph | http://planet.infowars.com/worldnews/usnews/i-spy | Jul 12 13:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Joseph Goebbels - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Goebbels | Jul 12 13:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Groovy Joe Goebbels | Facebook | https://www.facebook.com/pages/Groovy-Joe-Goebbels/126555604079894 | Jul 12 13:39 |
| schestowitz | http://chronicle.com/article/Why-Privacy-Matters-Even-if/127461/ | Jul 12 13:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Why Privacy Matters Even if You Have 'Nothing to Hide' - The Chronicle Review - The Chronicle of Higher Education .::. Size~: 53.27 KB | Jul 12 13:40 |
| schestowitz | The "nothing to hide" line is a bad sound bite, it exploits complacency. | Jul 12 13:40 |
| schestowitz | Used by http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Joseph_Goebbels | Jul 12 13:40 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/chasebockman/status/355698554448257025 | Jul 12 15:45 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a tweet? | Jul 12 15:45 |
| schestowitz | "Not much further to devolve" | Jul 12 15:45 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Prezbyter/status/355698908023885824 | Jul 12 15:45 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a tweet? | Jul 12 15:45 |
| schestowitz | "This is certainly true. Awareness is the first step to understanding. Understanding the first step to correcting." | Jul 12 15:46 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2832017 | Jul 12 15:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: People skip Microsoft Windows by buying Android smartphones, tablets http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-23251285 | Jul 12 15:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> Title: BBC News - PC sales see 'longest decline' in history .::. Size~: 80.47 KB | Jul 12 15:48 |
| schestowitz | "I wonder how many of those would know that it's better to buy off https://libre.thinkpenguin.com " | Jul 12 15:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: ThinkPenguin.com | Penguin Laptops, Desktops, and Accessories with Linux & GNU Support .::. Size~: 6.29 KB | Jul 12 15:48 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2808492 | Jul 12 15:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @harryhaller@joindiaspora.com: An elected dictator isn't that much better than an unelected one when the choices are dictated. <br> <br><br><br><br><br> Let's "grow up" and finally go for the real thing - real democracy - lawmaking by the people for the people on the basis of consensus among the people. Let "representatives" just do the routine administration. | Jul 12 15:48 |
| schestowitz | "Aha, yes, I did go to Wikipedia and read about the Agatha Christie novel. :) Anyway, I do agree with what you say about knowledge. To me, that story The Emperor's New Clothes is very good." | Jul 12 15:48 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2832918 | Jul 12 15:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @linux@joindiaspora.com: Chromebooks: A bright spot in the dark PC market http://www.zdnet.com/chromebooks-a-bright-spot-in-the-dark-pc-market-7000017964/ | Jul 12 15:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> Title: Chromebooks: A bright spot in the dark PC market | ZDNet .::. Size~: 77.76 KB | Jul 12 15:55 |
| schestowitz | "A bright spot for sales and manufacturing perhaps, but not for freedom" | Jul 12 15:55 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2825922 | Jul 12 16:13 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Are You Making #PRISM or Other #NSA Changes? http://fossforce.com/2013/07/are-you-making-prism-or-other-nsa-changes/ A Free software perspective | Jul 12 16:13 |
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| schestowitz | " | Jul 12 16:14 |
| schestowitz | I apologize in advance for the long response. | Jul 12 16:14 |
| schestowitz | First (and most importantly), I really appreciate the comments and responses in this conversation. Often times one might be given to the idea that very few people are open to having this sort of discussion out in the open, much less amongst random, disparate individuals who, in truth, do not know each other. | Jul 12 16:14 |
| schestowitz | As for my earlier comment, I feel driven to defend the idea to one degree or other - that it's not necessarily a "bad grasp on the matter of privacy"; but instead, an adaption to the undeniable truth of the moment: Google, Facebook, etc and government*s* have users' data. Full stop. It could be that I am wrong in my overall assertion or my proposed methodology, then again, the devil is in the details... That | Jul 12 16:14 |
| schestowitz | could be reason enough for (a) misunderstandings; (b) miscommunication. | Jul 12 16:14 |
| schestowitz | Nowhere in my earlier statement is there a claim of "nothing to hide". I believe I was quite careful about choosing the words I used. In fact, I would hope that I'm more 'notorious' for claiming "I have everything to protect" -at least via my posts on identi.ca or in previous posts I've shared here. To my mind (and perhaps this it is possible that I'm misled), the term "hide" presumes guilt, and "protect" | Jul 12 16:14 |
| schestowitz | asserts innocence, respectively. (Although I could conceive of one using 'protect' in order to hide something - but this distracts my point). Then again, that may be your point. | Jul 12 16:14 |
| schestowitz | Nor am I "okay" with the idea of having my data or my personal communications gathered, scrutinized, analyzed, classified, or retained - to any degree. In re-reading my own comment, I see what statement(s) might lead one to believe that I'm "okay" with what's happening/happened: "They could keep my decrypted message for decades for all I care," however, I do go on to say (in the same breath): "...it won't | Jul 12 16:14 |
| schestowitz | change the fact that it was an unconstitutional, warrantless search - nor does it change the innocence of the communication." I readily admit that this isn't an accurate picture of my own personal truth, but an exaggeration; it is a spit-in-the-face gesture of a situation I am powerless to affect directly. Of course I'd have a problem with my personal communications being kept - for any length of time - whether | Jul 12 16:14 |
| schestowitz | that communication is deemed "hiding", "protecting", innocent, or not-so-innocent. However, until the modus operandi can be changed, until the paradigm shifted, until one can claim cessante ratione legis cessat ipsa lex -(A rule of law becomes ineffective when the reason for its application has ceased to exist or does not correspond to the reality anymore.) One must simply do what one can to protect one's own | Jul 12 16:14 |
| schestowitz | interests. | Jul 12 16:14 |
| schestowitz | And even if these things change, if the law and constitutions prevail, one cannot expect that because an entity such as Google, Facebook, Microsoft - or even the government states that "Yes, sir, your data has been deleted as requested" or that "Well, the Supreme Court said we have to delete your data and we have done so as mandated" - the simple fact of the matter is this: One cannot know the truth of these | Jul 12 16:14 |
| schestowitz | hypothetical statements or assertions. Unless one has direct access to the actual information gathered on one's self, statements of retention and destruction cannot be determined to be true - to any degree. This is not unlike the F(L)OSS Community's philosophy of being able to inspect code. | Jul 12 16:14 |
| schestowitz | That said, it is a given that they may, in fact, not be telling the truth (to any degree). So, it stands that if that data is retained, it does not change the truth of the communication. The value of the communication itself, the original message (encrypted or not) cannot be changed. An encrypted "I love you" is no more damning than one sent in the clear. It merely limits the potential audience. | Jul 12 16:14 |
| schestowitz | So, until this dangerous thinking on the part of corporations and govt feel they have the right to 'scoop and snoop' is directly addressed and dealt with, one simply must adapt. If this means encrypting private conversation while the major battles over constitutional and human right are fought, what is the true harm to one's self? I mean that as an honest question. | Jul 12 16:15 |
| schestowitz | TL;DR: An encrypted "I love you" is no more damning than one sent in the clear. It merely limits the potential audience. | Jul 12 16:15 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 12 16:15 |
| iophk | revisionism : | Jul 12 17:16 |
| iophk | http://techland.time.com/2013/07/11/microsofts-devices-and-services-era-begins-today/?iid=ent-main-mostpop2 | Jul 12 17:16 |
| iophk | Skips the per-processor fees and other illegal activities that brought M$ to its current position | Jul 12 17:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Microsoft’s Devices-and-Services Era Begins Today | TIME.com .::. Size~: 80.15 KB | Jul 12 17:16 |
| iophk | Still talking about shipments rather than sales: | Jul 12 17:19 |
| iophk | http://www.informationweek.com/hardware/desktop/microsofts-surface-experiment-has-fallen/240158041 | Jul 12 17:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Microsoft's Surface Experiment Has Fallen Flat - Hardware - .::. Size~: 110.78 KB | Jul 12 17:19 |
| schestowitz | mh | Jul 12 17:40 |
| schestowitz | The PR campaign | Jul 12 17:40 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft has coordinated i for weeks | Jul 12 17:40 |
| schestowitz | expect lots of corruot (paid for/ghostwritten by PR) 'articles' drowning out the signal | Jul 12 17:41 |
| schestowitz | The real news is this: | Jul 12 17:41 |
| schestowitz | MS failed ij services | Jul 12 17:41 |
| schestowitz | (Web) | Jul 12 17:41 |
| schestowitz | MS failed in devices | Jul 12 17:41 |
| schestowitz | and it's losing its OS monopoly due to that | Jul 12 17:41 |
| schestowitz | Now it throws its way around | Jul 12 17:41 |
| schestowitz | Thurs. night Greenwald threw a bombshell on MS | Jul 12 17:42 |
| schestowitz | On how their 'services' actually spy on all customers | Jul 12 17:42 |
| iophk | When the desktop monopoly gets weak enough it will deflate, and the subsidies for the big money losers like services and devices will go. | Jul 12 17:42 |
| schestowitz | Hopefully businesses will take the hint | Jul 12 17:42 |
| iophk | Yeah, the Guardian has had some good articles lately. | Jul 12 17:42 |
| schestowitz | yes, hate to admit it | Jul 12 17:42 |
| iophk | The hint is missing pointers to FOSS and Open Standards | Jul 12 17:42 |
| schestowitz | BUT... | Jul 12 17:43 |
| schestowitz | Notice how they stopped criticising Gates after he had paid them | Jul 12 17:43 |
| schestowitz | And they made a placement for Melinda immediately thereafter | Jul 12 17:43 |
| iophk | Yeah they got real quiet about the money too | Jul 12 17:43 |
| schestowitz | MS Jack hardly writes there now | Jul 12 17:43 |
| iophk | I saw a list of his recent articles, he's very active still. | Jul 12 17:44 |
| iophk | Don't know if I can find the list again. | Jul 12 17:44 |
| iophk | It's stuff like "how can I upgrade from XP to 8" | Jul 12 17:44 |
| iophk | answering fake questions. | Jul 12 17:44 |
| iophk | Bill's money at work? http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/askjack | Jul 12 17:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Ask Jack | Technology | The Guardian .::. Size~: 107.67 KB | Jul 12 17:47 |
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| schestowitz | clsoing a dropbox account.. | Jul 12 18:19 |
| schestowitz | https://www.dropbox.com/terms | Jul 12 18:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Dropbox - Terms .::. Size~: 90.92 KB | Jul 12 18:19 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 12 18:19 |
| schestowitz | By using our Services you provide us with information, files, and folders that you submit to Dropbox (together, “your stuff”). You retain full ownership to your stuff. We don’t claim any ownership to any of it. These Terms do not grant us any rights to your stuff or intellectual property except for the limited rights that are needed to run the Services, as explained below. | Jul 12 18:19 |
| schestowitz | We may need your permission to do things you ask us to do with your stuff, for example, hosting your files, or sharing them at your direction. This includes product features visible to you, for example, image thumbnails or document previews. It also includes design choices we make to technically administer our Services, for example, how we redundantly backup data to keep it safe. You give us the permissions we | Jul 12 18:19 |
| schestowitz | need to do those things solely to provide the Services. This permission also extends to trusted third parties we work with to provide the Services, for example Amazon, which provides our storage space (again, only to provide the Services). | Jul 12 18:19 |
| schestowitz | To be clear, aside from the rare exceptions we identify in our Privacy Policy, no matter how the Services change, we won’t share your content with others, including law enforcement, for any purpose unless you direct us to. How we collect and use your information generally is also explained in our Privacy Policy. | Jul 12 18:19 |
| schestowitz | You are solely responsible for your conduct, the content of your files and folders, and your communications with others while using the Services. For example, it’s your responsibility to ensure that you have the rights or permission needed to comply with these Terms. | Jul 12 18:19 |
| schestowitz | We may choose to review public content for compliance with our community guidelines, but you acknowledge that Dropbox has no obligation to monitor any information on the Services. We are not responsible for the accuracy, completeness, appropriateness, or legality of files, user posts, or any other information you may be able to access using the Services. | Jul 12 18:19 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 12 18:19 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2833309 | Jul 12 18:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Planning to meet RMS in Oxford in a few days. Will try to get some videos (Ogg course) and cover issues beyond Free software. #gnu | Jul 12 18:28 |
| schestowitz | "OGG? Why not WebM?OGG? Why not WebM?" | Jul 12 18:29 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2833218 | Jul 12 18:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The latest lies from the #nsa and its conspirators http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130711/10432923767/nsa-talking-points-utah-data-center-were-teaming-up-with-tech-companies-to-protect-internet.shtml | Jul 12 18:35 |
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| schestowitz | "There really are times in which I wish there was a 'dislike' feature... That is to say, I like the fact that you shared this, but I dislike the news itself." | Jul 12 18:35 |
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