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| gulag2013 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FGqRPGw7eg | Oct 13 04:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.youtube.com | Google's new privacy policy says they can use your photo for ads October 2013 - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/fvnx2 ] | Oct 13 04:40 |
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| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3165187 | Oct 13 07:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Does a Chromebook replace a laptop? http://www.tgdaily.com/mobility-brief/80646-does-a-chromebook-replace-a-laptop it runs #gnu #linux | Oct 13 07:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.tgdaily.com | Does a Chromebook replace a laptop? | TG Daily [ http://ur1.ca/fvjk9 ] | Oct 13 07:41 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "And if I can't do anything I want with MY hardware I won't buy that hardware" | Oct 13 07:41 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | [16:36] <_Goblin> schestowitz: HI there! Yep if youre coming to London, make sure you visit! - Oh and btw 1984 not an insightful glimse of the future, an exercise in the bloody obvious for anyone who has studied any human culture from its roots....but thats another story.... | Oct 13 07:42 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Cool;.maybe my wife can come also | Oct 13 07:42 |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR, Apparently it's easier to commit odometer fraud with those new digital odometers. | Oct 13 08:48 |
| DaemonFC | All you have to do is hook up a device and reset it to whatever you want it to say. | Oct 13 08:49 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Oct 13 08:49 |
| gulag2013 | Any Ubuntu users in the room? | Oct 13 08:50 |
| iophk | gulag2013: not a fan of Unity. What's up? | Oct 13 08:52 |
| gulag2013 | I'm just trying to figure the right way to purge Cinnamon desktop, now idea how it got installed | Oct 13 08:53 |
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| iophk | Remove the package "cinnamon" and then autoremove any leftovers? | Oct 13 08:54 |
| gulag2013 | should I use synaptic? | Oct 13 08:55 |
| iophk | Yes that would be an easy way. | Oct 13 08:55 |
| gulag2013 | Great thanks, The news on both Facebook and Google, I was very close to removing my gmail | Oct 13 08:57 |
| iophk | Someone posted a reply from GMX online saying they couldn't guarantee non-US servers for their services. | Oct 13 08:57 |
| DaemonFC | I keep getting idiots on Craigslist say they're interested in buying my Taurus. | Oct 13 08:58 |
| DaemonFC | Then they either try to get it really cheap or never show up to look at it. | Oct 13 08:58 |
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| oiaohm | gulag2013: do get to know aptitude as well. Highly useful if anything majorally screwed up with graphical due to package install stuff up. | Oct 13 09:02 |
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| gulag2013 | iophk, that seemed to do the trick thanks for your help, all that is left is some gnome. | Oct 13 09:05 |
| iophk | Lots of people have moved to XFCE instead. | Oct 13 09:06 |
| gulag2013 | I'm not to sure I liked that desktop. I will have to double check the disto I thought it was in. | Oct 13 09:07 |
| iophk | It's in Xubuntu if you are into the Ubuntu family of distros. | Oct 13 09:07 |
| iophk | It comes prepackaged on others, too. | Oct 13 09:07 |
| gulag2013 | It's the global menu bar I like in Ubuntu, not Dash | Oct 13 09:08 |
| gulag2013 | Dash, is sort of waste of time | Oct 13 09:08 |
| iophk | What about Cairo-dock then? It's an add on. | Oct 13 09:08 |
| iophk | The Dash is like a lame reimplementation of bash-completion. | Oct 13 09:09 |
| iophk | I don't see it as appropriate to the GUI paradigm | Oct 13 09:09 |
| gulag2013 | It serves me now purpose, now if it would display the last installed package that would be useful | Oct 13 09:09 |
| iophk | If I wanted to type the names of a program to run it, I can already do that, and have done it, since the 1990's | Oct 13 09:09 |
| gulag2013 | Exactly, there a few ones that are not obvious. example Chromium-Browser | Oct 13 09:10 |
| gulag2013 | Once you know them, you are golden | Oct 13 09:11 |
| iophk | less /var/log/apt/history.log | Oct 13 09:11 |
| iophk | Then scroll down to the end. | Oct 13 09:12 |
| gulag2013 | I have no problem typing to launch a program, but dash stutters on my machine. Terminal is just faster | Oct 13 09:12 |
| iophk | There might be a way to get it with grep if one is clever enough. | Oct 13 09:12 |
| gulag2013 | I will write down that path thanks | Oct 13 09:12 |
| iophk | bash completion is actually quite advanced and aware of the syntax and valid options and their accepted parameters. | Oct 13 09:13 |
| gulag2013 | It's fantastic, I'm learning as a go. I was doing tab tab and it was just filling in the whole path. | Oct 13 09:14 |
| iophk | Yep, it knows when to fill in paths and when not to. | Oct 13 09:14 |
| iophk | I guess the structure of the APT history file is always a 4-line record separated by an empty line. | Oct 13 09:15 |
| iophk | So this should work to find the last one: | Oct 13 09:15 |
| iophk | tail -n 4 /var/log/apt/history.log | Oct 13 09:15 |
| gulag2013 | That display all the cinnamon stuff I just removed | Oct 13 09:17 |
| iophk | Yes, I see now. There is a slight defect in how Synaptic logs to that file. You can't just look at "Commandline:" to see if something was added or removed. | Oct 13 09:20 |
| gulag2013 | The first command you gave me is long list of everything. Can I use an -l flag somewhere, it looks like shit. | Oct 13 09:20 |
| iophk | The long lines get wrapped. So that makes it look bad. | Oct 13 09:20 |
| gulag2013 | Can I cat it out and have listed/ | Oct 13 09:21 |
| iophk | You could pipe it through a perl script which uses Text::WrapI18N | Oct 13 09:22 |
| iophk | That would allow you to do hanging indents, which should improve readability | Oct 13 09:22 |
| gulag2013 | okay, so I'm looking through this list it looks like a bunch of dependencies, I can't really spot out programs in this mess. | Oct 13 09:23 |
| iophk | Unfortunately the package manager doesn't really make a distinction between applications and their dependencies. | Oct 13 09:24 |
| gulag2013 | Ha ha, it's all good. I know that most of my stuff is in /usr/bin right? | Oct 13 09:25 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: do get to know aptitude as well. Highly useful if anything majorally screwed up with graphical due to package install stuff up. | Oct 13 09:25 |
| gulag2013 | Okay. Can you explain Aptitude for me. just what you it is, not asking for lessons? | Oct 13 09:27 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: aptitude is a text base item like synaptic | Oct 13 09:27 |
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| gulag2013 | starting to ring a bell. how do work in it? | Oct 13 09:28 |
| gulag2013 | I don't even know if its something I have preinstalled. | Oct 13 09:29 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: if it installed aptitude will exist as at terminal option. | Oct 13 09:29 |
| gulag2013 | /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/00aptitude, that came up first line using locate | Oct 13 09:30 |
| oiaohm | aptitude installed should be in /usr/bin/aptitude | Oct 13 09:32 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: http://algebraicthunk.net/~dburrows/projects/aptitude/doc/en/images/install-snapshot.png aptitude has a fairly unque look. | Oct 13 09:33 |
| gulag2013 | That path isn't being displayed, maybe I need to install it | Oct 13 09:33 |
| gulag2013 | Thanks that stand out like a sore thumb | Oct 13 09:34 |
| gulag2013 | Okay I'm installing it. | Oct 13 09:35 |
| iophk | I always had trouble from / with Aptitude. I use apt-get straight up. | Oct 13 09:35 |
| iophk | instead | Oct 13 09:35 |
| gulag2013 | Nice and launches "aptitude" | Oct 13 09:35 |
| oiaohm | iophk: aptitude has better broken package solving than apt-get | Oct 13 09:36 |
| gulag2013 | Well, I take oiaohm's word on at least trying to learn it. I haven't gotten around to learning how to navigate in vim either | Oct 13 09:37 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: Hey I have only used Linux and Unix for over 20 years and I still cannot use vim todo anything. | Oct 13 09:37 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: I use nano as my text editor on the terminal. | Oct 13 09:38 |
| gulag2013 | Ha ha, thanks that made me feel more at ease. I appreciate your suggestions. This is the most fun I have had in long time, as far as learning an O/S goes | Oct 13 09:38 |
| iophk | http://mrpogson.com/2013/10/13/gnulinux-is-for-everyone/ | Oct 13 09:38 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | mrpogson.com | GNU/Linux Is For Everyone | Robert Pogson [ http://ur1.ca/fvpki ] | Oct 13 09:38 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: I have dyslexia emacs and vim are ways for me to screw up majorally. | Oct 13 09:39 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: so I like stuff with proper displayed memus. | Oct 13 09:39 |
| oiaohm | Whats a few lines of screen space compare to making errors. | Oct 13 09:40 |
| gulag2013 | Are they sort of black sheep. I guess I mean, I get the hang of one thing, and I guess my way around another. So are they just both non intuitive | Oct 13 09:40 |
| iophk | Knowing a little vi is useful since it is on all systems by default and nano or emacs have to be installed intentionally. | Oct 13 09:42 |
| gulag2013 | So emac is comparable to Vim? I'm embarrassed I have to ask that. Stalman created emac, is that right? | Oct 13 09:42 |
| iophk | Yes RMS wrote Emacs | Oct 13 09:42 |
| iophk | It's a nice IDE | Oct 13 09:42 |
| oiaohm | I do have a cheat sheet for vim when desperate. | Oct 13 09:42 |
| oiaohm | But other wise I don't know how to use vim. | Oct 13 09:43 |
| gulag2013 | I didn't know that about nano. | Oct 13 09:43 |
| iophk | The syntax highlighting and other touches are very useful. It has many modes, depending on what kind of file you are editing. | Oct 13 09:43 |
| iophk | nano is nice | Oct 13 09:43 |
| oiaohm | emacs is huge powerful and scary enough you could be using its internal irc client. | Oct 13 09:43 |
| gulag2013 | I use it for text, and it save me step or two | Oct 13 09:43 |
| oiaohm | or even using to to play chess. | Oct 13 09:43 |
| iophk | but you need to set nowrap in nanorc or launch it with -w to avoid wrapping long lines | Oct 13 09:44 |
| oiaohm | vim and vi were both designed to be compact still with lots of functionality. | Oct 13 09:44 |
| oiaohm | Also vim and vi are designed for the nightmare terminal from hell. | Oct 13 09:45 |
| iophk | over 300 baud or slower... | Oct 13 09:45 |
| oiaohm | Yes that being a printer. | Oct 13 09:45 |
| oiaohm | Yes keyboard + printer you can get by with vi or vim. | Oct 13 09:45 |
| oiaohm | Yes vi and vim has some very warped output options. | Oct 13 09:45 |
| gulag2013 | That is the long term goal. it's hard to watch my system go down, and stare at a blank cursor feeling helpless. | Oct 13 09:46 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: basically if you have a interfacw where you cannot use vi or vim you are fairly much stuffed. | Oct 13 09:46 |
| gulag2013 | Sounds like the thing to practice, if it's almost everything | Oct 13 09:47 |
| iophk | You only need to know a few keystrokes to get a lot of mileage out of vi | Oct 13 09:48 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: there is a price for supporting every interface on earth. | Oct 13 09:48 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: don't know keystrokes vi/vim are paper weight is this the price for supporting every interface. | Oct 13 09:48 |
| gulag2013 | What is that exactly? | Oct 13 09:48 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: so I don't like remembering keystrokes. | Oct 13 09:49 |
| oiaohm | This is why I am a nano user. | Oct 13 09:49 |
| oiaohm | I used a item called pico before nano. | Oct 13 09:50 |
| gulag2013 | Oh,well it scares me because I wasn't gifted with the best memory. I just keep trying new commands as I go. | Oct 13 09:50 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: so you are more like me. | Oct 13 09:50 |
| iophk | with pico and nano you can rely on the menus instead | Oct 13 09:50 |
| iophk | IIRC pico came with pine | Oct 13 09:51 |
| oiaohm | iophk: pine was my first email client. | Oct 13 09:51 |
| iophk | 2nd for me, but it is very good | Oct 13 09:51 |
| gulag2013 | How far back are we talking | Oct 13 09:51 |
| iophk | 93 | Oct 13 09:51 |
| oiaohm | 95 me | Oct 13 09:52 |
| iophk | pine's development has been a little less certain of late | Oct 13 09:52 |
| iophk | there is alpine and re-alpine | Oct 13 09:52 |
| gulag2013 | Ah yes, I was just buying my first modem around that time | Oct 13 09:52 |
| _Goblin | gulag2013, I just wonder these days why people bother with the CLI...if you have need of the flexibility of the command line fine, but many people have spent many years making desktop linux intuitive and "one click" in order to concentrate on work and less on "working things out".... | Oct 13 09:52 |
| oiaohm | Before that I only had access to bbs before that. | Oct 13 09:52 |
| iophk | but none quite work with Google's IMAPS | Oct 13 09:52 |
| oiaohm | iophk: I was using Unix's 1991 | Oct 13 09:52 |
| oiaohm | iophk: without internet connection. | Oct 13 09:52 |
| iophk | so no 'mail' program? | Oct 13 09:53 |
| _Goblin | oiaohm, Dawn RaId BbS - The greatest scene BBS in the UK | Oct 13 09:53 |
| _Goblin | and that was 1989 for me. | Oct 13 09:53 |
| oiaohm | iophk: cat mboxfile |less | Oct 13 09:53 |
| iophk | ew | Oct 13 09:53 |
| oiaohm | iophk: I don't call that my first email client. | Oct 13 09:53 |
| oiaohm | iophk: but it worked for what was needed. | Oct 13 09:54 |
| gulag2013 | Goblin, I have spent me whole life using a Gui, feeling like things were being hidden from me. I'm interested in know how my system works more than before | Oct 13 09:54 |
| oiaohm | iophk: only thing being emailed on those systems was errors. | Oct 13 09:54 |
| oiaohm | iophk: read email delete mailbox have it create new again. | Oct 13 09:54 |
| oiaohm | Never ending cycle of ew until I found a email client. | Oct 13 09:54 |
| _Goblin | gulag2013, unless you have some very special requirements it all seems like creating work for yourself....although if its a hobby and you enjoy it, more power to you. | Oct 13 09:54 |
| _Goblin | the cat example I gave yesterday is a good one since in Avidemux you can use the append feature which is arguably quicker than a "CAT" command in the CLI | Oct 13 09:55 |
| gulag2013 | It all depends on the task , I really could care less about learning every command to set up a firewall in a terminal, but know how and where I can fix things is nice | Oct 13 09:56 |
| _Goblin | I think the most important thing (for me anyway) was when I first came to Linux from a Windows background, knowing where the system put everything and then permissions, now the CLI is largely unused and if I have an issue a quick google usually gives me a cut and paste solution. | Oct 13 09:57 |
| gulag2013 | I guess that is what is holding linux back on the desktop. I freaked out the first couple crashes I had using linux | Oct 13 09:57 |
| iophk | The only thing holding Linux back on the desktop is the control of the OEMs. People will use what is preinstalled. | Oct 13 09:57 |
| iophk | Nowadays few even change the default settings. | Oct 13 09:58 |
| _Goblin | I think the thing that can hold Linux back is the idea some people promote that you need to use the CLI at all....Most of the linux installs I've done for people have never used the CLI since they started with Linux | Oct 13 09:58 |
| gulag2013 | Those are good points, yet Windows can be a little whacky where they hide tools also | Oct 13 09:58 |
| oiaohm | _Goblin: and iophk both kinda wrong. | Oct 13 09:58 |
| iophk | The shell is too easy to work with. | Oct 13 09:58 |
| oiaohm | _Goblin: X11 being highly inscure forced command line to remain in high secure usage. | Oct 13 09:58 |
| _Goblin | tell that to someone who uses a PC as a tool, not as a hobby or has an interest in it. | Oct 13 09:59 |
| iophk | To walk someone through a GUI solution needs feeding a series of edited screen shots. | Oct 13 09:59 |
| iophk | That's slow and a lot of work. | Oct 13 09:59 |
| oiaohm | iophk: OEM how can they ship with up stream hardware vendors rejecting Linux. | Oct 13 09:59 |
| iophk | The same solution can be done faster with a line or two. | Oct 13 09:59 |
| _Goblin | yep but its more intiutive to someone with no interest in computing (other than as a tool) | Oct 13 09:59 |
| iophk | oiaohm: M$ still has the control to lean on OEMs, though the grip is weakening | Oct 13 09:59 |
| oiaohm | iophk and _Goblin we have had the problem 2 major road blocks. | Oct 13 10:00 |
| gulag2013 | I would say to that person to get a mac and a service plan. | Oct 13 10:00 |
| _Goblin | you really think a mainstream user the masses would favour text over a flashy GUI? even if it is slower. | Oct 13 10:00 |
| iophk | too bad they got restricted boot pushed through | Oct 13 10:00 |
| iophk | that basically prevents any casual experimentation or anything else by novices | Oct 13 10:00 |
| _Goblin | it is all about OEM.....but those that venture away are also put off from the CLI fud | Oct 13 10:00 |
| _Goblin | about linux | Oct 13 10:00 |
| oiaohm | _Goblin: the CLI is not fud. | Oct 13 10:00 |
| _Goblin | no.... | Oct 13 10:00 |
| _Goblin | badly typed. | Oct 13 10:00 |
| iophk | M$ makes it into FUD | Oct 13 10:01 |
| oiaohm | _Goblin: without fixing X11 the CLI was forced to remain. | Oct 13 10:01 |
| _Goblin | I mean the FUD thats promoted about Linux = CLI | Oct 13 10:01 |
| iophk | because Windows lacks the capability they make fun of it | Oct 13 10:01 |
| iophk | and criticize it. | Oct 13 10:01 |
| _Goblin | but you think the mainstream are interested? | Oct 13 10:01 |
| _Goblin | they just want to use a computer | Oct 13 10:01 |
| oiaohm | _Goblin: X11 stuff ups made the requirement to use CLI so critical. | Oct 13 10:01 |
| _Goblin | they see a command line, they are not interested. | Oct 13 10:01 |
| iophk | on the GUI side, Linux has been easier than Windows for over a decade. | Oct 13 10:01 |
| _Goblin | agreed | Oct 13 10:01 |
| iophk | That's when the KDE 3.x usability study came out | Oct 13 10:01 |
| oiaohm | I would say in some areas Linux is ahead in usablity. | Oct 13 10:02 |
| oiaohm | X11 has been ruining all the great useablity work. | Oct 13 10:02 |
| gulag2013 | You can use the some of the same commands in Powershell I believe, so you have three things you can novice in. OSX, Linux, and even a Windows | Oct 13 10:02 |
| iophk | oiaohm: agreed and it has been ahead for a while | Oct 13 10:02 |
| _Goblin | Ive had newbies on many DE's....all of which met with ease of use by the beginner | Oct 13 10:02 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: we have a better novice shell | Oct 13 10:02 |
| iophk | Unity would be more tolerable if there were a graphical way of exploring which apps are installed | Oct 13 10:03 |
| _Goblin | Unity is the white elephant. | Oct 13 10:03 |
| gulag2013 | Is that right? | Oct 13 10:03 |
| iophk | that and it needs to be able to move the dock off the left side to where ever the user needs it | Oct 13 10:03 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: http://fishshell.com/ this is a shell designed for novices. | Oct 13 10:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | fishshell.com | fish shell | Oct 13 10:03 |
| gulag2013 | What makes it better? I mean that out of pure interst | Oct 13 10:03 |
| _Goblin | that dock gets to be an issue when you have a google web app also with a vertical popout dock. | Oct 13 10:03 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: its automatically designed to bring up help data. | Oct 13 10:03 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: so you know what in heck you are asking the system todo. | Oct 13 10:04 |
| gulag2013 | Get out of town, really? | Oct 13 10:04 |
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| gulag2013 | Thank you so much for sharing that. | Oct 13 10:05 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: http://fishshell.com/assets/img/screenshots/man_completions.png | Oct 13 10:05 |
| gulag2013 | That's cool, I will be playing with that later in the day. | Oct 13 10:06 |
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| gulag2013 | I had no love for learning the command prompt in windows, but now if I use windows 7. I'm hunting for it and yelling that I'm forget to right click admin | Oct 13 10:08 |
| iophk | Windows is all-around useless and illogical, both the GUI and the text UI. | Oct 13 10:13 |
| iophk | _Goblin: some functionality is not there in the GUI. In Synaptic, how do you see the last app or two that was installed? | Oct 13 10:15 |
| gulag2013 | I got used to where things were, until you can guess? | Oct 13 10:15 |
| iophk | It shows all of them but not the latest ones to be added | Oct 13 10:15 |
| iophk | gulag2013: yeah they changed the GUI so that people have to spend their time fussing with the GUI instead of leaving them free to do their work or worse test Linux | Oct 13 10:15 |
| gulag2013 | My mindset was where Goblin's was a two years ago, but now i like it. Somethings are faster, others aren't | Oct 13 10:17 |
| iophk | _Goblin: found the history setting, but it is only for work done through Synaptic, not the overall history | Oct 13 10:17 |
| gulag2013 | If that suits him, I'm always willing to be taught a better way. | Oct 13 10:19 |
| Sosumi | http://macdailynews.com/2013/09/10/new-in-os-x-mavericks-opengl-4-1-brings-increased-performance-more-features/ | Oct 13 10:20 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | macdailynews.com | New in OS X Mavericks: OpenGL 4.1 brings increased performance, more features – MacDailyNews - Welcome Home [ http://ur1.ca/fvpwe ] | Oct 13 10:20 |
| Sosumi | and we're still in 2010, right? | Oct 13 10:21 |
| gulag2013 | Sosumi, Whats that? | Oct 13 10:21 |
| Sosumi | just a joke news about apple being in the past with their opengl spec | Oct 13 10:22 |
| Sosumi | 3 years or so behind and being outperformed by mesa | Oct 13 10:23 |
| gulag2013 | I see, I don't know enough about opengl, I do know that Apple takes forever to get hardware up to date. | Oct 13 10:23 |
| gulag2013 | They keep repackaging the same products with some minor changes. Look what they did to the Mac Pro, what is that? | Oct 13 10:24 |
| Sosumi | the mac pro was OK, they didn't need to change it an oversized dildo | Oct 13 10:25 |
| Sosumi | *into | Oct 13 10:25 |
| gulag2013 | That is what I meant, not specs wise. I guess they don't want you fixing it. | Oct 13 10:26 |
| oiaohm | The more deperate MS gets attempting to hold onto market share the more insane there interface will get. | Oct 13 10:26 |
| Sosumi | nor upgrading it | Oct 13 10:26 |
| oiaohm | Windows 8 was about MS losing control. | Oct 13 10:26 |
| gulag2013 | Microsoft just resorts to smear campaigns, bribes and corrupting the education system | Oct 13 10:27 |
| oiaohm | Remember MS makes more income from android patent licenses than from Windows Phone sales. | Oct 13 10:27 |
| Sosumi | yeah | Oct 13 10:27 |
| gulag2013 | I did hear that | Oct 13 10:27 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: bribes and corruption is how MS got into place. | Oct 13 10:27 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: and illegal dealing. | Oct 13 10:27 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: IBM invented FUD | Oct 13 10:28 |
| gulag2013 | Take Goblin for example. I'm not meaning to use him for this example. I'm a victim also. If I had to learn Linux in elementary school, I would have a skill. | Oct 13 10:28 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: so why did I develop the skill. | Oct 13 10:29 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: It was not because my high school supported it. | Oct 13 10:29 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: mine was seeing my schools computer labs shut down due to software piracy. | Oct 13 10:30 |
| gulag2013 | This is true, you had a passion for it much early I suppose. I wanted nothing to do with, Windows 8 changed that. | Oct 13 10:30 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: No not exactly passion. | Oct 13 10:30 |
| oiaohm | I required working computers. | Oct 13 10:31 |
| gulag2013 | Then you had a reason, and you are much better off now because of it. | Oct 13 10:31 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: my rating of dyslexia was at the level of non functional with out aids. | Oct 13 10:32 |
| iophk | you were lucky if that pushed you to F/OSS. Usually M$ via the BSA is able to force new M$ contracts | Oct 13 10:33 |
| iophk | they used the "piracy" excuse to purge Netware from the server rooms and replace it with non-functional M$ shit | Oct 13 10:33 |
| gulag2013 | I did horrible in school. The way the force you to learn stuff that doesn't help you . Personal relationships skills, nope. Financial literacy, nope | Oct 13 10:33 |
| oiaohm | iophk: think about it my dyslexia require spell checkers and other things. | Oct 13 10:34 |
| oiaohm | iophk: having computer rooms shut down when needing to submit papers was a major problem. | Oct 13 10:34 |
| iophk | Yeah you got burned pretty bad. | Oct 13 10:35 |
| iophk | Timing is a lot | Oct 13 10:35 |
| gulag2013 | I took my Comptia A+ All Microsoft. Tell me that wasn't on purpose. | Oct 13 10:35 |
| gulag2013 | No Apple skills, nothing on Linux at all | Oct 13 10:35 |
| iophk | Kind of confirms that Comptia is a total waste. | Oct 13 10:36 |
| gulag2013 | it truly is now. | Oct 13 10:36 |
| gulag2013 | PC repair, it's a good laugh | Oct 13 10:36 |
| oiaohm | Old A+ exam stuff was good. | Oct 13 10:37 |
| oiaohm | The new stuff is horible | Oct 13 10:37 |
| gulag2013 | Why on earth would someone pay me $100 to fix a $300 dollar emachine | Oct 13 10:37 |
| iophk | that's if it is even repairable. | Oct 13 10:37 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: data recoverable. | Oct 13 10:37 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: opps | Oct 13 10:37 |
| iophk | Most things are single-board these days. | Oct 13 10:37 |
| oiaohm | data recovery. | Oct 13 10:37 |
| oiaohm | Yes I hate word swap I suffer from from time to time. | Oct 13 10:37 |
| iophk | About the only thing removable is the SSD or HD and optical drive, if there is still one. | Oct 13 10:38 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: its not the price of the machine its the price of the data it contains these days. | Oct 13 10:38 |
| gulag2013 | Data recovery, maybe some forgotten password, but if the Motherboard goes, just go to Walmart and get a new one | Oct 13 10:38 |
| gulag2013 | What is that called "Planned Obsolescence" | Oct 13 10:39 |
| oiaohm | Replacing a motherboard can be required as part of datarecovery. | Oct 13 10:39 |
| oiaohm | ie people using insane encryptioned with data stored in the board. | Oct 13 10:40 |
| gulag2013 | Valid point | Oct 13 10:40 |
| oiaohm | Note you are not talking about a 100 dollar fix you are talking about a 1000 dollar fix | Oct 13 10:40 |
| oiaohm | So the data better be worth something. | Oct 13 10:40 |
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| gulag2013 | I didn't get that kind of education either, that is way I'm unpleased with the Comptia people | Oct 13 10:41 |
| gulag2013 | I got Printer questions, and how to be nice to people scenarios | Oct 13 10:42 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: you know something is wrong when do the exam have noted down 5 questiosn because they were sus. | Oct 13 10:43 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: then prove Comptia had them wrong. | Oct 13 10:43 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: like the year Windows NT was released. | Oct 13 10:44 |
| gulag2013 | Yes, I honestly brought one question up. The lady working told me to write to Comptia | Oct 13 10:44 |
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| gulag2013 | Don't get me wrong I passed with no worries, but the majority of the questions were on hardware so old, that you have a better chance of getting hit by a bus, than have your boss fire you over not know the amount of pins in scsi cable | Oct 13 10:46 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: what age hardware do you have to perform data recovery on. | Oct 13 10:47 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: on adverage. | Oct 13 10:47 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: ? | Oct 13 10:48 |
| oiaohm | Yes I do ask some hard question. | Oct 13 10:48 |
| oiaohm | The answer is sub 1 year old and + 5 year old. | Oct 13 10:48 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: worst I have had todo data recovery was 3 years ago on a server build in the 1980s | Oct 13 10:49 |
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| gulag2013 | I have been very lucky, it has never been that serious. I do have a few discs in my tool bag. | Oct 13 10:49 |
| gulag2013 | The stuff, I have had it was easy enough to just get the data off, and replace the hd | Oct 13 10:50 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: basically that old crap in the A+ exam make sense when you come accross somewhere that has done something stupid like put a server in a wall and forget about it. | Oct 13 10:52 |
| gulag2013 | Yet, I'm not working in the industry. This is mostly friends and family and i have built a level of trust. I"m not going to charge an arm and a leg for something simple | Oct 13 10:52 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: yes embed item in wall I have seen 8 times. | Oct 13 10:52 |
| oiaohm | where is the scanner where is keyboard..... Where is computer.... Yes every time something different. | Oct 13 10:53 |
| gulag2013 | You are right, but bus typology really? | Oct 13 10:53 |
| oiaohm | renoviations and computer hardware can get bad. | Oct 13 10:53 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: lot of those bus typology of networks you use with fiber optic. | Oct 13 10:54 |
| oiaohm | Yes there is still ring typology in fiber optic. | Oct 13 10:54 |
| gulag2013 | ha ha, that is rough ride. I bet you are wondering, they had to know I was here to work right? | Oct 13 10:54 |
| gulag2013 | That is fiber, but memorizing what a bnc connector is, sort of silly | Oct 13 10:56 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: I still have 1 place still with some sections of bnc 10 mbs networking. | Oct 13 10:56 |
| oiaohm | The items on it don't need speed. | Oct 13 10:56 |
| gulag2013 | Oh my god. I stand corrected yet again. | Oct 13 10:57 |
| gulag2013 | They still use hubs to? | Oct 13 10:57 |
| oiaohm | bnc ring | Oct 13 10:57 |
| oiaohm | No hubs | Oct 13 10:57 |
| oiaohm | What is hubs. | Oct 13 10:58 |
| gulag2013 | it was before switches | Oct 13 10:58 |
| oiaohm | Please note bnc ring is highly evil. | Oct 13 10:58 |
| oiaohm | The distance of cable of the ring has to be longer than the max transimmsion distance. | Oct 13 10:58 |
| oiaohm | Or horible things happen. | Oct 13 10:59 |
| gulag2013 | Why? | Oct 13 10:59 |
| gulag2013 | What is the distance in meters max? | Oct 13 10:59 |
| oiaohm | Think for one min signal leaves from one point on a ring what happens at the crossing point on the other side. | Oct 13 10:59 |
| oiaohm | This is non terminated BNC 10 mbs networking. | Oct 13 11:00 |
| oiaohm | Aprox 150 meters gulag2013 | Oct 13 11:00 |
| gulag2013 | Oh, darn those diagrams were supposed to be for illustration. I | Oct 13 11:00 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: the ring lenth is 450 metres. | Oct 13 11:01 |
| oiaohm | With the one I am dealing with. | Oct 13 11:01 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: basically the fun job is replace it. | Oct 13 11:02 |
| gulag2013 | I only have a tiny grasp on Networking. Which reminds me I should be thinking about that Exam, but it's useless unless i can get some hands on experience | Oct 13 11:02 |
| oiaohm | Only posible replacement will be fiber something. | Oct 13 11:02 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: location 24/7 saw mill. | Oct 13 11:03 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: would you want to recable that place. | Oct 13 11:03 |
| gulag2013 | No thank you | Oct 13 11:03 |
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| oiaohm | gulag2013: seams to be the universal answer. | Oct 13 11:03 |
| gulag2013 | Oh goodness, do they even cover the nodes? | Oct 13 11:03 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: nothing in there can have vents. | Oct 13 11:04 |
| oiaohm | Other than printers that do from time to time catch fire. | Oct 13 11:04 |
| oiaohm | Yes printer on fire is no joke in that place. | Oct 13 11:04 |
| gulag2013 | rofl fire seriously | Oct 13 11:04 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: fine powered saw dust. | Oct 13 11:04 |
| oiaohm | Meets hot printer equals big problems. | Oct 13 11:05 |
| oiaohm | Ok printer on fire is in fact a good outcome. | Oct 13 11:05 |
| oiaohm | Printer exploded is a bad outcome. | Oct 13 11:05 |
| oiaohm | Both do happen. | Oct 13 11:05 |
| gulag2013 | They should do that aquarium setup for there pc's in there | Oct 13 11:05 |
| oiaohm | Yes blast cage is around printers. | Oct 13 11:05 |
| oiaohm | Yes turn off printer open door get printed object close door. | Oct 13 11:06 |
| oiaohm | Turn back on printer. | Oct 13 11:06 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: no you use vent less pcs in there. | Oct 13 11:06 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: look up fitpc some time. | Oct 13 11:07 |
| gulag2013 | i think i have seen thoses | Oct 13 11:07 |
| gulag2013 | Sounds like you are underpaid | Oct 13 11:08 |
| gulag2013 | So do you do all the admin stuff, plus cable management, etc.. | Oct 13 11:09 |
| gulag2013 | Just you? | Oct 13 11:09 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: contract on call. | Oct 13 11:10 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: pay no one unless it breaks what totally suxs. | Oct 13 11:10 |
| gulag2013 | I'm sorry. | Oct 13 11:12 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: the real horible places are badly paid. | Oct 13 11:14 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: the well paying places normally have decent upgrade and replacement cycles. | Oct 13 11:14 |
| gulag2013 | what sucks is I was trying to move out of those environment. I have worked in nasty warehouses my whole life | Oct 13 11:15 |
| gulag2013 | Are you doing a lot of Windows 7 deployments? | Oct 13 11:16 |
| oiaohm | Nasty ware house can be cleaner than highrise cableing channels. | Oct 13 11:16 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: not really. | Oct 13 11:16 |
| oiaohm | Lot are looking at Windows Multipoint | Oct 13 11:16 |
| oiaohm | Basically huge mother servers supporting 20 users each. | Oct 13 11:17 |
| oiaohm | Then ipad and android tablets and Linux boxes on desktops. | Oct 13 11:17 |
| gulag2013 | Oh, okay. So do you have to break it to places, they need modern stuff | Oct 13 11:17 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: windows stupid limits. | Oct 13 11:18 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: any more than 20 users on a server providing RDP things get bad with Windows. | Oct 13 11:18 |
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| oiaohm | Where if the box was linux you could support a few 100 users. | Oct 13 11:18 |
| gulag2013 | Wow, I didnt' know it was like that with Windows | Oct 13 11:19 |
| oiaohm | There are a lot weakness in windows. | Oct 13 11:20 |
| gulag2013 | Has Microsoft been raising prices | Oct 13 11:20 |
| oiaohm | Yes. | Oct 13 11:20 |
| oiaohm | KSM in Linux kernel that does same page matching to reduce ram usage under Linux is protected by a vmware patent. So windows does not have this feature. | Oct 13 11:21 |
| gulag2013 | Man,there are countries in Europe going open source, I'm not sure when it will reach the states | Oct 13 11:21 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: patents cripple Microsoft from supporting massive numbers of users. | Oct 13 11:21 |
| oiaohm | On a single machine. | Oct 13 11:21 |
| iophk | I thought it was also M$ own architecture that failed in its design. | Oct 13 11:22 |
| gulag2013 | Oh, this is getting sticky. I had no idea it was this involved with patents | Oct 13 11:22 |
| oiaohm | iophk: NT core design is solid. What was done to it in the name of performace ruined it. | Oct 13 11:22 |
| iophk | There were other add ons that prevent the "official" security model from working IIRC | Oct 13 11:23 |
| oiaohm | iophk: Dave Cutler did the core design of OpenVMS and NT. Both core designs are solid. | Oct 13 11:25 |
| oiaohm | iophk: basically having a solid core design does not mean you cannot employ other idiots and ruin it. | Oct 13 11:25 |
| iophk | Yes, but that was in the 90's Hasn't everything else been garbage since then? That was my impression. | Oct 13 11:25 |
| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer | Oct 13 11:26 |
| DaemonFC | 4 minutes ago | Oct 13 11:26 |
| DaemonFC | Golden Graham treats and Diet Pepsi. Breakfast of champions. It's gonna be a good day. | Oct 13 11:26 |
| oiaohm | iophk:Some things done to vista were correcting historic design faults. | Oct 13 11:27 |
| oiaohm | iophk: mostly currect the modern stuff has garbage. There have been handful of bright spark correct alteratiosn to the NT line. | Oct 13 11:27 |
| oiaohm | iophk: compared to the Linux kernel that has many true bright spart correct alterations every year Windows is doing horible badly. | Oct 13 11:28 |
| DaemonFC | I always wondered why old people drive their Crown Vics at 20 mph. | Oct 13 11:28 |
| DaemonFC | I get it now. | Oct 13 11:28 |
| DaemonFC | It's so they can spend more time in their Crown Vics. | Oct 13 11:28 |
| DaemonFC | Damned government CAFE standards killed the Vic. | Oct 13 11:29 |
| DaemonFC | I don't know why Ford couldn't just put the DOHC 3.7 V6 in it. | Oct 13 11:29 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: the other is not having the money to rebush the steering. | Oct 13 11:30 |
| DaemonFC | ? | Oct 13 11:31 |
| DaemonFC | The steering in this car is phenomenal! | Oct 13 11:31 |
| DaemonFC | Best steering out of any car I've ever owned. | Oct 13 11:31 |
| DaemonFC | Rear wheel drive + power steering = best steering ever. | Oct 13 11:31 |
| MinceR | 122118 < oiaohm> KSM in Linux kernel that does same page matching to reduce ram usage under Linux is protected by a vmware patent. So windows does not have this feature. | Oct 13 11:32 |
| DaemonFC | I went to Walmart earlier to get some for sale signs for the Taurus and some odds and ends. | Oct 13 11:32 |
| MinceR | then they could support more users, they just needed more RAM, could they not? | Oct 13 11:32 |
| DaemonFC | I was cruising through the parking lot steering with one finger. | Oct 13 11:32 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: the steering is phenomenal until th car has bad muches. | Oct 13 11:32 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: how widespread is odometer fraud in the usa? | Oct 13 11:32 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: muches/bushes on the control roods. | Oct 13 11:32 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, It's common enough that it's still a major problem. | Oct 13 11:33 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: MS does not have the feature at all. Result is massively more ram consumion per users. | Oct 13 11:33 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: I am not talking a small difference. | Oct 13 11:33 |
| DaemonFC | The mechanical odometers were designed to break apart if people tried to roll them back with a drill/driver or something. | Oct 13 11:33 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: they say you can't sell a car in hungary without it so there's no point in looking at the odometer | Oct 13 11:33 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: ic | Oct 13 11:33 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: Like you can fit over 100 users on Linux in 16 G of ram. | Oct 13 11:33 |
| DaemonFC | The only way to cheat those in late model cars is to disconnect them, which loses the speedometer too. | Oct 13 11:33 |
| DaemonFC | So most people don't do it. | Oct 13 11:33 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: and most of the time not be using swap. | Oct 13 11:33 |
| DaemonFC | The digital ones can be faked in about five minutes by reprogramming the computer. | Oct 13 11:34 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Oct 13 11:34 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: i thought they just rolled them forward until they overflowed to 0 and then some | Oct 13 11:34 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: windows you would be luckly with Window 7/8 to get 16 users in 16G of ram. | Oct 13 11:34 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, If you roll them forward and they pass 999999, they break apart. | Oct 13 11:34 |
| DaemonFC | Then you have to get a title that says EXCEEDS MECHANICAL LIMITS. | Oct 13 11:34 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 13 11:34 |
| MinceR | ic | Oct 13 11:34 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, It's so uncommon for a person to drive a vehicle past 999999 that it's not a major problem. | Oct 13 11:35 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 13 11:35 |
| MinceR | :) | Oct 13 11:35 |
| oiaohm | Not all odometers break when you cross the max. | Oct 13 11:36 |
| DaemonFC | My Crown Vic has 94,800 on it right now. | Oct 13 11:36 |
| oiaohm | Most do. | Oct 13 11:36 |
| DaemonFC | My Precious! | Oct 13 11:36 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Oct 13 11:36 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I'm not afraid of driving an older car as long as they've kept the maintenance logs and had it garaged. | Oct 13 11:37 |
| DaemonFC | As long as it's low miles for the year. | Oct 13 11:37 |
| DaemonFC | This is actually the lowest mileage of any vehicle I've ever bought. | Oct 13 11:37 |
| DaemonFC | The Taurus has 113,500 on it when I bought it in 2005. | Oct 13 11:38 |
| DaemonFC | *had | Oct 13 11:38 |
| DaemonFC | It has 143,433 on it right now. | Oct 13 11:38 |
| DaemonFC | I've only driven it about 30,000 miles in 8 years. | Oct 13 11:38 |
| DaemonFC | but those were some hard miles | Oct 13 11:38 |
| DaemonFC | I have kind of a lead foot. | Oct 13 11:39 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: I had 1 truck that did end up wrong did not dispaly EXCEEDS MECHANICAL LIMITS jamed at 00000001 | Oct 13 11:39 |
| DaemonFC | and I've gone off the road once | Oct 13 11:40 |
| DaemonFC | at like 70 mph | Oct 13 11:40 |
| DaemonFC | into a field | Oct 13 11:40 |
| DaemonFC | and I've gone into the air a few times and landed | Oct 13 11:40 |
| DaemonFC | and driven into a building | Oct 13 11:40 |
| DaemonFC | and some....err....other stuff | Oct 13 11:40 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: so you would be good fun to put in a bush basher. | Oct 13 11:41 |
| DaemonFC | The Taurus has held up quite well considering what I've done to it. | Oct 13 11:41 |
| DaemonFC | If I can find someone to buy it that has no idea how I drive, that would be great. | Oct 13 11:41 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 13 11:41 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: http://www.rollaclub.com/board/uploads/1220080609/med_gallery_958_72_294332.jpg << I guess it does not look like this yet. | Oct 13 11:43 |
| DaemonFC | There's no reason why we need to keep running vehicles on gasoline or move to crappy 4 cylinder engines. | Oct 13 11:43 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: Australian bush bashers end of life for highly abused cars. | Oct 13 11:43 |
| DaemonFC | They made a natural gas version of the Crown Vic. | Oct 13 11:43 |
| DaemonFC | Why can't they just switch cars over to natural gas and keep making real cars? | Oct 13 11:43 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: your driving would not worry them. | Oct 13 11:43 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: how do most Australian bush bashers end life wrapped around tree. | Oct 13 11:44 |
| DaemonFC | Some guy sent me an email from Craiglist about the Taurus. | Oct 13 11:45 |
| DaemonFC | "trade you a mini van for it" | Oct 13 11:45 |
| DaemonFC | uhhhm, no | Oct 13 11:45 |
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| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer | Oct 13 12:00 |
| DaemonFC | 2 seconds ago | Oct 13 12:00 |
| DaemonFC | Time to swap out your kittens for a big block Jabba Cat. | Oct 13 12:00 |
| DaemonFC | What does the Jabba Cat eat? Anything it wants. He's the great white shark that never had to evolve. | Oct 13 12:00 |
| DaemonFC | He might look like a sweet kitten, but he will hunt your foot the second he thinks your not looking. | Oct 13 12:00 |
| DaemonFC | BRRROWWW! | Oct 13 12:00 |
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| DaemonFC | https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/q71/s720x720/1394128_154173751459331_1205473283_n.jpg | Oct 13 12:00 |
| DaemonFC | https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/q71/s720x720/1381915_154173901459316_2094136046_n.jpg | Oct 13 12:01 |
| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer | Oct 13 12:10 |
| DaemonFC | 2 seconds ago | Oct 13 12:10 |
| DaemonFC | So I got a bunch of texts from a guy on Craigslist that says he wanted to come by yesterday morning to look at the Taurus. So I clean it really good, and he never shows. | Oct 13 12:10 |
| DaemonFC | Then I got a email from a guy that wanted to trade me for a minivan that's had the crap beaten out of it. | Oct 13 12:10 |
| DaemonFC | Then I get a bunch of emails from another guy on Craigslist that basically wants me to give him the car. | Oct 13 12:10 |
| DaemonFC | From: Andrew Hamilton: | Oct 13 12:11 |
| DaemonFC | To: Me | Oct 13 12:11 |
| DaemonFC | Subject: 1995 Ford Taurus | Oct 13 12:11 |
| DaemonFC | What's the lowest you would go? | Oct 13 12:11 |
| DaemonFC | http://fortwayne.craigslist.org/cto/4122237737.html | Oct 13 12:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | fortwayne.craigslist.org | 1995 Ford Taurus GL with 143,433 miles [ http://ur1.ca/fvqq4 ] | Oct 13 12:11 |
| DaemonFC | Sent from my iPad | Oct 13 12:11 |
| DaemonFC | From: Me | Oct 13 12:11 |
| DaemonFC | To: Andrew Hamilton | Oct 13 12:11 |
| DaemonFC | Make me an offer. | Oct 13 12:11 |
| DaemonFC | From: Andrew Hamilton | Oct 13 12:11 |
| DaemonFC | To: Me | Oct 13 12:11 |
| DaemonFC | 600 | Oct 13 12:11 |
| DaemonFC | Sent from my iPhone | Oct 13 12:11 |
| DaemonFC | From: Me | Oct 13 12:11 |
| DaemonFC | To: Andrew Hamilton | Oct 13 12:11 |
| DaemonFC | So you have an iPhone and an iPad, and you want my car for $600? Way to go dude. Next time, go with Android and you'll have enough money for more than a bicycle. Enjoy walking. | Oct 13 12:11 |
| DaemonFC | ------ | Oct 13 12:11 |
| DaemonFC | "The only thing worse than Apple is people who like their products." | Oct 13 12:11 |
| DaemonFC | I have three cars right now, which is one more than I really want. | Oct 13 12:11 |
| DaemonFC | I'm allowed two parking spots, so the crappiest vehicle I have is up for sale from in front of my mom's house. | Oct 13 12:11 |
| DaemonFC | I'd like to get enough out of the Taurus GL to do a tune up on the Crown Vic and some minor repairs. | Oct 13 12:12 |
| DaemonFC | (nothing major, just some odds and ends I noticed before I bought it) | Oct 13 12:12 |
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| DaemonFC | ewww | Oct 13 12:42 |
| DaemonFC | lol | Oct 13 12:42 |
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| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer | Oct 13 13:42 |
| DaemonFC | First Ford cancels all vehicles with a V8 and then they let Microsoft into the car. | Oct 13 13:42 |
| DaemonFC | #whyidrivea1996 | Oct 13 13:42 |
| DaemonFC | http://images4.fanpop.com/image/photos/16200000/demotivational-random-16267135-1044-835.jpg | Oct 13 13:44 |
| DaemonFC | https://lh3.ggpht.com/-WD__CWVkxTY/TadVoe3gkpI/AAAAAAAAA1Y/CqqYs_ERaRs/s400/demotivational+poster+Fat+Emo.jpg | Oct 13 13:45 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.demotivationalposters.org/image/demotivational-poster/0905/travel-australia-australia-demotivational-poster-1242352192.jpg | Oct 13 13:49 |
| DaemonFC | http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2010/087/7/2/Dead_Pakistani_Demotivational_by_Joza1994.jpg | Oct 13 13:59 |
| iophk | More smears : http://yro.slashdot.org/story/13/10/13/0237210/could-snowden-have-been-stopped-in-2009 | Oct 13 14:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | yro.slashdot.org | Could Snowden Have Been Stopped In 2009? - Slashdot [ http://ur1.ca/fvrfi ] | Oct 13 14:02 |
| iophk | http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/10/doj-if-we-can-track-one-american-we-can-track-all-americans/ | Oct 13 14:09 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | arstechnica.com | DoJ: If we can track one American, we can track all Americans | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/fvrhg ] | Oct 13 14:09 |
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| iophk | Meego gets a mention, but otherwise a bit of revisionism going on, trying to shift blame off M$ Elop | Oct 13 15:33 |
| iophk | http://www.osnews.com/story/27370/This_is_how_a_Finnish_journalist_tried_to_save_Nokia | Oct 13 15:33 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.osnews.com | This is how a Finnish journalist tried to save Nokia [ http://ur1.ca/fvrx8 ] | Oct 13 15:33 |
| Sosumi | arrh Snowden, if only he had revealed something that wasn't already known | Oct 13 15:40 |
| Sosumi | well at least he gave the specific names of the programs/units, but meh | Oct 13 15:41 |
| iophk | Specifics were valuable as was official confirmation. | Oct 13 15:43 |
| Sosumi | but unfortunately it didn't change much | Oct 13 15:46 |
| Sosumi | well, anything | Oct 13 15:46 |
| Sosumi | ppl are still trowing their private lifes on the snoopnetworks | Oct 13 15:46 |
| Sosumi | and using "zee" cloud services instead of being resposible for their data | Oct 13 15:47 |
| Sosumi | and since we're nearing november... | Oct 13 15:49 |
| Sosumi | I wander how many'll buy the new M$ snoopbox | Oct 13 15:49 |
| iophk | Few. The last batch went off to the recycling centers for reclamation. | Oct 13 15:50 |
| Sosumi | with it's always listening snoopcamera that can also be used to get info on many users are present in the room or measure reactions when playing games, detect heartbeat, etc, etc | Oct 13 15:51 |
| Sosumi | :) | Oct 13 15:51 |
| Sosumi | at least $ony as much as I dislike them, didn't go that route | Oct 13 15:52 |
| iophk | No but their behavior hasn't been good. | Oct 13 15:52 |
| iophk | They went out of their way to reneg on the "other OS" capability | Oct 13 15:53 |
| iophk | Some people did actually buy PS3's because of that option. | Oct 13 15:53 |
| Sosumi | TOUCHÉ | Oct 13 15:53 |
| Sosumi | I actually wanted to build a small ps3 cluster | Oct 13 15:53 |
| Sosumi | back then, glad I didn't pull the trigger | Oct 13 15:53 |
| iophk | Yes then there were institutional buyers that were building cellclusters | Oct 13 15:53 |
| Sosumi | yep | Oct 13 15:54 |
| Sosumi | there are videos on MIT opencourseware showing that | Oct 13 15:54 |
| iophk | All kinds of computationally intensive research was starting to happen on PS3 clustrers. | Oct 13 15:54 |
| iophk | There were even some medical and physics breakthroughs. | Oct 13 15:54 |
| Sosumi | but $sony decided to kill the functionality, very dumb, not to mention the other issues | Oct 13 15:56 |
| Sosumi | sending credit card and login credentials as plain test | Oct 13 15:56 |
| iophk | Probably had some from M$ on the inside to help push that decisino | Oct 13 15:56 |
| iophk | Yellow Dog seems to have been replaced by Fixstars, but the new site is corporate market babble http://www.fixstars.com/en/ | Oct 13 15:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.fixstars.com | Fixstars - A leading multi-core software development company | Oct 13 15:58 |
| Sosumi | I think it was mostly because ppl had found a way to get access to the gpu and the platform keys deal | Oct 13 15:59 |
| Sosumi | well fixstars has always been behind yellowdog | Oct 13 16:02 |
| Sosumi | even before cell and the ps3 | Oct 13 16:02 |
| Sosumi | it's a power pc distro based on rhel | Oct 13 16:02 |
| iophk | https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/community/osor/news/discriminatory-procurement-specifications-widespread | Oct 13 16:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | joinup.ec.europa.eu | 'Discriminatory procurement specifications widespread' | Joinup [ http://ur1.ca/fvs5q ] | Oct 13 16:14 |
| Sosumi | the Union of European Socialist States is in cahoots with big business anyways | Oct 13 16:18 |
| iophk | They've been doing illegal tenders for as long as they've been buying computers, maybe longer | Oct 13 16:18 |
| Sosumi | and that also aplies to regional governments thx to M$ bribes and what nots | Oct 13 16:20 |
| iophk | from top to bottom according to reports over the years | Oct 13 16:20 |
| iophk | nothing has improved yet | Oct 13 16:20 |
| Sosumi | like the magalhães program here in portugal | Oct 13 16:20 |
| Sosumi | intel classmate + winblows+office | Oct 13 16:20 |
| Sosumi | with the taxpayer footing the bill | Oct 13 16:21 |
| iophk | The Australian government has been paying people to use Windows | Oct 13 16:22 |
| iophk | http://www.lifehacker.com.au/2012/07/doing-tax-on-your-mac-you-could-claim-windows-as-a-deduction/ | Oct 13 16:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.lifehacker.com.au | Doing Tax On Your Mac? You Could Claim Windows As A Deduction | Lifehacker Australia [ http://ur1.ca/fvs6o ] | Oct 13 16:22 |
| Sosumi | all also thx to revolving door between private and public sector between the then minister mario lino and JP Sá Couto | Oct 13 16:22 |
| Sosumi | techrights has articles about that | Oct 13 16:22 |
| Sosumi | http://techrights.org/2010/03/18/magalhaes-microsoft-corruption/ | Oct 13 16:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | techrights.org | Magalhães + Microsoft = Corruption | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/fvs6u ] | Oct 13 16:24 |
| Sosumi | also as a note, magalhães may have provided dual boot, but no unit that I saw came with Caixa Mágica distro | Oct 13 16:24 |
| Sosumi | http://techrights.org/2009/07/01/inci-procurement-microsoft/ | Oct 13 16:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | techrights.org | Government of Portugal Ignores Procurement Rules and Gives Taxpayers’ Money to Microsoft | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/fvs7b ] | Oct 13 16:25 |
| Sosumi | yay, my money at work | Oct 13 16:25 |
| Sosumi | http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-10-13/guest-post-they%E2%80%99re-coming-your-savings | Oct 13 17:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.zerohedge.com | Guest Post: They’re Coming For Your Savings | Zero Hedge [ http://ur1.ca/fvsmv ] | Oct 13 17:41 |
| Sosumi | in a perfect world, they are coming for your debt | Oct 13 17:42 |
| Sosumi | debt reset, yeppiii, not, lol | Oct 13 17:42 |
| Sosumi | although I don't own anything to anyone | Oct 13 17:43 |
| Sosumi | but that seems to be one of the ways to balance the system | Oct 13 17:43 |
| Sosumi | have the big boys take a haircut | Oct 13 17:43 |
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| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer | Oct 13 18:15 |
| DaemonFC | 2 seconds ago | Oct 13 18:15 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft is getting rid of Ballmer and possibly Gates. Rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. #usegnulinux | Oct 13 18:15 |
| DaemonFC | Good time for another ode to the odious proprietary malware company. | Oct 13 18:15 |
| DaemonFC | I've got an idea for the next BSOD. | Oct 13 18:15 |
| DaemonFC | "Your computer has experienced a problem and needs to restart. Please wait a moment while we upload more of your files to the NSA. Thank you." | Oct 13 18:15 |
| DaemonFC | I guess that's how they got a free pass from the DoJ to run their "illegal operation" that should have been "shut down". | Oct 13 18:15 |
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| Sosumi | :) | Oct 13 18:33 |
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| MinceR | http://www.devttys0.com/2013/10/reverse-engineering-a-d-link-backdoor/ | Oct 13 18:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.devttys0.com | Reverse Engineering a D-Link Backdoor - /dev/ttyS0 [ http://ur1.ca/fvt2e ] | Oct 13 18:54 |
| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmerposted toFord Motor Company | Oct 13 19:42 |
| DaemonFC | a few seconds ago | Oct 13 19:42 |
| DaemonFC | Dear Ford, | Oct 13 19:42 |
| DaemonFC | Please bring back the Crown Victoria and remove Microsoft from your cars. | Oct 13 19:42 |
| DaemonFC | kthxbai | Oct 13 19:42 |
| MinceR | they'd also need to get rid of the idiots who thought putting m$ in a car was a good idea in the first place | Oct 13 19:48 |
| MinceR | those are not engineers. | Oct 13 19:48 |
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| Sosumi | just give me a ford siera cosworth | Oct 13 19:49 |
| Sosumi | probably my favourite ford | Oct 13 19:49 |
| Sosumi | but I didn't know ford had M$ in their cars :( | Oct 13 19:50 |
| Sosumi | pretty much all those integrated distraction centers in cars run gnu/linux with some car manufacturer shell on top | Oct 13 19:52 |
| Sosumi | I think, lawl | Oct 13 19:52 |
| Sosumi | it'd be a mistake not to | Oct 13 19:52 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHQ-FB6lm68 | Oct 13 20:13 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.youtube.com | 2011 Ford Crown Victoria 0-60MPH!!! - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/fvtic ] | Oct 13 20:13 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtXb_tpa5ts | Oct 13 20:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.youtube.com | supercharged vic takeoff - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/fvtii ] | Oct 13 20:14 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 13 20:14 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzdI2vCW75o | Oct 13 20:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.youtube.com | Decoy police car teardown and tow away...ONE guy! - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/fvtin ] | Oct 13 20:15 |
| DaemonFC | LOL | Oct 13 20:15 |
| DaemonFC | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-occupancy_vehicle_lane | Oct 13 20:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | en.wikipedia.org | High-occupancy vehicle lane - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/fvtk1 ] | Oct 13 20:22 |
| DaemonFC | In January 2013, a motorist tried to claim that the Articles of Incorporation of his business — which had been placed unbuckled on the driver’s seat, constituted a person, citing the principle of corporate personhood and California's state Vehicle Code, which defines a person as “natural persons and corporations.” This argument was subsequently rejected in Traffic court, which commented that | Oct 13 20:22 |
| DaemonFC | "Common sense says carrying a sheath of papers in the front seat does not relieve traffic congestion."[44] | Oct 13 20:22 |
| DaemonFC | LOL | Oct 13 20:22 |
| Sosumi | lulz | Oct 13 20:23 |
| MinceR | lol | Oct 13 20:26 |
| MinceR | republicans do keep claiming that corporations are people | Oct 13 20:27 |
| DaemonFC | The Crown Victoria is the Chuck Norris of cars. | Oct 13 20:29 |
| DaemonFC | They stopped improving them in 2004 because there was no way to make them better after that point. | Oct 13 20:29 |
| MinceR | an overrated fundie? | Oct 13 20:29 |
| DaemonFC | well, there's the idiot and the meme. | Oct 13 20:29 |
| DaemonFC | you know? | Oct 13 20:29 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 13 20:29 |
| MinceR | yes, there's the idiot and the meme about the idiot | Oct 13 20:30 |
| DaemonFC | Well, I was referring to the meme. | Oct 13 20:30 |
| DaemonFC | http://money.cnn.com/2011/09/15/autos/last_crown_victoria/index.htm | Oct 13 20:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | money.cnn.com | Ford's last Crown Victoria rolls off the line - Sep. 15, 2011 [ http://ur1.ca/fvtle ] | Oct 13 20:31 |
| DaemonFC | Then they fired everyone at the plant and told them to get their shit and go home. | Oct 13 20:31 |
| MinceR | Chuck Norris does not sleep. He's worrying about gay marriage. | Oct 13 20:31 |
| MinceR | There is no chin behind Chuck Norris’ beard. There is only the quivering fear of gay marriage. | Oct 13 20:31 |
| DaemonFC | I don't see a reason why you discontinue something that's in demand like that. | Oct 13 20:32 |
| DaemonFC | Other than the government regulations on fuel economy. | Oct 13 20:32 |
| MinceR | chuck norris believes pi=3 | Oct 13 20:32 |
| DaemonFC | In Indiana, Pi was 3.14 by law until someone realized that you couldn't fine or imprison a circle for refusing to turn itself into Pac Man. | Oct 13 20:33 |
| DaemonFC | Not the brightest lawmakers, even by American standards. | Oct 13 20:33 |
| DaemonFC | but, they represent the public who voted them in | Oct 13 20:34 |
| MinceR | fundie lawmakers are never bright | Oct 13 20:34 |
| MinceR | if they were bright, they wouldn't be fundies | Oct 13 20:34 |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.snopes.com/autos/law/carpool.asp | Oct 13 21:20 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.snopes.com | snopes.com: Carpool Lane Scams [ http://ur1.ca/fvtti ] | Oct 13 21:20 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: https://ribanc.com/files/tumblr_mg5933T1O11rogwl3o1_1280.jpg | Oct 13 21:43 |
| Sosumi | hilarious | Oct 13 21:49 |
| Sosumi | who did that deserves a medal | Oct 13 21:49 |
| Sosumi | must do one with balmer as the rancor monster dead under the metal door | Oct 13 22:02 |
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| Sosumi | or sebsebseb, riding a sandworm from Dune :P | Oct 13 22:04 |
| DaemonFC | http://boingboing.net/2013/10/11/vatican-spells-jesus-wrong-on.html | Oct 13 22:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | boingboing.net | NO TITLE [ http://ur1.ca/fvu6o ] | Oct 13 22:43 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I just topped off the Vic. | Oct 13 22:43 |
| DaemonFC | Just to see what mileage I was getting. | Oct 13 22:43 |
| DaemonFC | 22 mpg | Oct 13 22:43 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 13 22:43 |
| MinceR | lol @ vatican | Oct 13 22:44 |
| Sosumi | value added tax in a can? | Oct 13 22:45 |
| MinceR | :) | Oct 13 22:45 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3167704 | Oct 13 22:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: [](https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=770661752950797&set=a.715704285113211.1073741846.290897664260544&type=1&theater)<br> - <br><br> | Oct 13 22:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.facebook.com | Timeline Photos | Facebook [ http://ur1.ca/fvu7d ] | Oct 13 22:46 |
| MinceR | :) | Oct 13 22:46 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: did you expect it to not guzzle gas? :> | Oct 13 22:47 |
| Sosumi | macosforge | Oct 13 22:49 |
| Sosumi | it even tells you hot to stop smoking | Oct 13 22:49 |
| Sosumi | http://darwinbuild.macosforge.org/trac/ticket/139 | Oct 13 22:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | darwinbuild.macosforge.org | #139 (How to quit smoking in a effective way) – DarwinBuild [ http://ur1.ca/fvu80 ] | Oct 13 22:50 |
| Sosumi | fail | Oct 13 22:50 |
| MinceR | maybe it's because crApple refuses warranty if you smoke near the idiot box | Oct 13 22:50 |
| Sosumi | maybe :P | Oct 13 22:50 |
| MinceR | or it's just spam :> | Oct 13 22:50 |
| Sosumi | but it's nice to see some life in the wasteland called macosforge | Oct 13 22:51 |
| Sosumi | that and the apparently defunct x11 port | Oct 13 22:53 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2963359 | Oct 13 22:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Silent Circle is probably moving to #switzerland for #privacy http://www.forbes.com/sites/parmyolson/2013/08/09/e-mails-big-privacy-problem-qa-with-silent-circle-co-founder-phil-zimmermann/ trend: freedom fighters now escape the US | Oct 13 22:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.forbes.com | E-mail's Big Privacy Problem: Q&A With Silent Circle Co-Founder Phil Zimmermann - Forbes [ http://ur1.ca/f3tp9 ] | Oct 13 22:53 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "The Swiss will give up anything asked for if it comes to the crunch, it's the only reason they are still independent" | Oct 13 22:53 |
| Sosumi | mac in academia is finally dead = br00liant! | Oct 13 22:54 |
| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer Without men, civilization would continue until the next oil change was needed. | Oct 13 23:07 |
| DaemonFC | Like · Reply · a few seconds ago | Oct 13 23:07 |
| DaemonFC | <MinceR> DaemonFC: did you expect it to not guzzle gas? :> | Oct 13 23:07 |
| DaemonFC | Guzzle gas? 21 mpg is awesome for mostly city driving with a 4.6 V8. | Oct 13 23:08 |
| DaemonFC | It's getting better mileage than my Taurus. | Oct 13 23:08 |
| MinceR | well yes, for a 4.6 V8 | Oct 13 23:08 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Smaller engines can actually be less efficient in some cases. | Oct 13 23:08 |
| MinceR | yet apparently they aren't :> | Oct 13 23:09 |
| DaemonFC | Like when you're trying to accelerate quickly and they're struggling to do it. | Oct 13 23:09 |
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| MinceR | gn | Oct 14 01:05 |
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| DaemonFC | Sold the Taurus. | Oct 14 02:55 |
| DaemonFC | I have money now. Yay! | Oct 14 02:55 |
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| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3170328 | Oct 14 08:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Size of Africa in perspective https://joindiaspora.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/images/scaled_full_50ec65581e66f2c000c2.png | Oct 14 08:28 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "They could have left off Spain and France had they included Alaska." | Oct 14 08:28 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | But Alaska - like both Canada and Russia - is scarcely populated and barely inhabitable half the year. | Oct 14 08:29 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3165178 | Oct 14 08:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: You know the world is going in the wrong direction when 1984 is no longer fiction and people can no longer ridicule RMS without challenge. | Oct 14 08:30 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "Sir... I challenge you to a duel of fisticuffs, behind the servants quarters, henceforth!" | Oct 14 08:30 |
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| MinceR | r4wr | Oct 14 09:27 |
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| iophk | Maybe they've been hiring too many from M$ | Oct 14 10:43 |
| iophk | http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2425512,00.asp | Oct 14 10:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.pcmag.com | iPhone 5s Users Seeing 'Blue Screen of Death' | News & Opinion | PCMag.com [ http://ur1.ca/fvymj ] | Oct 14 10:43 |
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| iophk | http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/apple/iphone/10376845/iPhone-5s-users-report-Blue-Screen-Of-Death-crashes.html | Oct 14 10:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.telegraph.co.uk | iPhone 5s users report 'Blue Screen Of Death' crashes - Telegraph [ http://ur1.ca/fvyoi ] | Oct 14 10:49 |
| iophk | http://torrentfreak.com/fact-releases-video-of-file-sharing-site-home-visit-and-domain-grab-131014/ | Oct 14 10:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | torrentfreak.com | FACT Releases Video of File-Sharing Site Home Visit and Domain Grab | TorrentFreak [ http://ur1.ca/fvypr ] | Oct 14 10:53 |
| iophk | This is so much harder with T B-L on the wrong side of the fight. | Oct 14 10:57 |
| iophk | http://blogs.computerworlduk.com/open-enterprise/2013/10/tim-berners-lee-on-why-html5-needs-drm/index.htm | Oct 14 10:57 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | blogs.computerworlduk.com | Tim Berners-Lee on Why HTML5 "Needs" DRM - Open Enterprise [ http://ur1.ca/fvyqq ] | Oct 14 10:57 |
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| iophk | http://ia801008.us.archive.org/7/items/OhioLinuxfest2013/ | Oct 14 11:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | ia801008.us.archive.org | Index of /7/items/OhioLinuxfest2013/ [ http://ur1.ca/fvyv0 ] | Oct 14 11:17 |
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| iophk | http://ia801008.us.archive.org/7/items/OhioLinuxfest2013/16-Ian_Santopietro-BIOS_UEFI.spx | Oct 14 12:03 |
| iophk | Several of the presentations seem to be practicing appeasement towards M$. No one seems to learn from watching what has happened in the past to everyone else who tried that. | Oct 14 12:04 |
| MinceR | http://i.crackedcdn.com/phpimages/photoshop/2/6/0/209260_slide.jpg | Oct 14 12:04 |
| iophk | I once preached peaceful coexistence with Windows. You may laugh at my expense. I deserve it." | Oct 14 12:05 |
| iophk | http://www.itpro.co.uk/624070/haiku-reason-to-believe | Oct 14 12:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.itpro.co.uk | Haiku: Reason to believe | IT PRO [ http://ur1.ca/2cijc ] | Oct 14 12:05 |
| iophk | http://www.birdhouse.org/beos/byte/30-bootloader/ | Oct 14 12:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.birdhouse.org | He Who Controls the Bootloader [ http://ur1.ca/gdhk ] | Oct 14 12:05 |
| iophk | The guy from System76 should know better, especially given how little UEFI really does for actual security. | Oct 14 12:06 |
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| iophk | http://ia801008.us.archive.org/7/items/OhioLinuxfest2013/19-Jon_maddog_Hall-GNU_Linux_Around_the_World.spx | Oct 14 13:06 |
| iophk | Maddog's talk is interesting but I can't help but notice that he misses RMS point on differentiating between trademark, copyright and patents. | Oct 14 13:08 |
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| schestowitz_bed2 | Interewsting bio, CNET there a;sp" https://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=5516664&authType=name&authToken=tCY-&trk=miniprofile-primary-view-button | Oct 14 13:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.linkedin.com | Join LinkedIn | LinkedIn [ http://ur1.ca/fvzoa ] | Oct 14 13:43 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | www.linkedin.com/pub/rick-lehrbaum/1/a20/620/ | Oct 14 13:44 |
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| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/i/redirect?url=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2Fhgfernan%2Fstatus%2F389747753200254976&sig=d2e90abc58d8ee3dc12c13aed1dcd75f48eca904&uid=26603208&iid=8fcb6134-0714-486f-9d85-b5ff6c23b3ff&nid=27+1267&t=1 | Oct 14 14:45 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | twitter.com | NO TITLE [ http://ur1.ca/fw01m ] | Oct 14 14:45 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/hgfernan/status/389747753200254976 | Oct 14 14:45 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @hgfernan: .@schestowitz The nomination of #techrights for https://t.co/WMkAutML93 is much deserved. Good luck ! | Oct 14 14:45 |
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| iophk | http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2013-10/14/brazil-email-nsahttp://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2300375/edward-snowden-says-the-nsa-is-hurting-the-us | Oct 14 16:09 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | ( status 500 @ http://www.wired.co.uk/_error-friendly/500.asp?aspxerrorpath=/news/archive/2013-10/14/brazil-email-nsahttp:/www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2300375/edward-snowden-says-the-nsa-is-hurting-the-us ) | Oct 14 16:09 |
| iophk | http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2300375/edward-snowden-says-the-nsa-is-hurting-the-us | Oct 14 16:09 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.theinquirer.net | Edward Snowden says the NSA is hurting the US- The Inquirer [ http://ur1.ca/fw0lq ] | Oct 14 16:09 |
| iophk | http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2013-10/14/brazil-email-nsa | Oct 14 16:09 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.wired.co.uk | Brazilian President tweets about new national email, continues anti-NSA rhetoric (Wired UK) [ http://ur1.ca/fw0ls ] | Oct 14 16:09 |
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| MinceR | https://scontent-b-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/1375154_10201559501721717_79698421_n.jpg | Oct 14 16:45 |
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| iophk | http://www.france24.com/en/20131014-radiation-experts-confirm-polonium-arafat-clothing | Oct 14 20:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.france24.com | Radiation experts confirm polonium on Arafat clothing - FRANCE 24 [ http://ur1.ca/fw29g ] | Oct 14 20:14 |
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| MinceR | http://op-co.de/blog/posts/android_ssl_downgrade/ | Oct 14 23:36 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | op-co.de | Why Android SSL was downgraded from AES256-SHA to RC4-MD5 in late 2010 [ http://ur1.ca/fw3c5 ] | Oct 14 23:36 |
| MinceR | gn | Oct 15 00:04 |
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| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer | Oct 15 03:59 |
| DaemonFC | Saw the funniest thing in my life at Walmart tonight. Some guy in a NICE Ford F-350 was honking at Dave and me to get out of his way. When we got to the door, he revved up the engine, peeled out, and turned right into a parking lot post. I heard him shout "F***!". | Oct 15 03:59 |
| DaemonFC | Then he backed up, and hit it again, and busted out his rear window. | Oct 15 03:59 |
| DaemonFC | Like · · Share · 2 minutes ago · | Oct 15 03:59 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 15 04:00 |
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| amarsh04 | http://www.wired.com/opinion/2013/10/a-necessary-evil-what-it-takes-for-democracy-to-survive-surveillance/ | Oct 15 04:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.wired.com | Stallman: How Much Surveillance Can Democracy Withstand? | Wired Opinion | Wired.com [ http://ur1.ca/fw4y7 ] | Oct 15 04:58 |
| Sosumi | hum? democracy? | Oct 15 05:28 |
| Sosumi | democracy is despostism, the majority vs the minority | Oct 15 05:30 |
| Sosumi | nothing beats the good old republic | Oct 15 05:30 |
| DaemonFC | That guy that wrecked his truck at Walmart still has me giggling. | Oct 15 05:32 |
| Sosumi | walwart | Oct 15 05:53 |
| Sosumi | lol | Oct 15 05:53 |
| Sosumi | http://t.co/hZo2rN8QVi | Oct 15 06:09 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @jaredbkeller: This week's @BW cover: unmasking the identity of a Chinese hacker http://t.co/bGkHVY6K | http://t.co/k9JyGkyW | Oct 15 06:09 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.businessweek.com | A Chinese Hacker's Identity Unmasked - Businessweek | Oct 15 06:09 |
| Sosumi | meanwhile in the real world | Oct 15 06:10 |
| Sosumi | http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/10/yep-the-nsa-is-grabbing-your-address-book-contact-lists-too/ | Oct 15 06:10 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | arstechnica.com | Yep, the NSA is grabbing your address book, contact lists too | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/fw5ba ] | Oct 15 06:10 |
| Sosumi | http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/10/govt-moves-to-keep-nsa-surveillance-lawsuit-away-from-supreme-court/ | Oct 15 06:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | arstechnica.com | Gov’t moves to keep NSA surveillance lawsuit away from Supreme Court | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/fw5bb ] | Oct 15 06:11 |
| DaemonFC | Sosumi, He actually hit that pole three different times in his $50,000 truck. | Oct 15 07:00 |
| DaemonFC | busted out a window and left a pile of glass next to the post. | Oct 15 07:00 |
| DaemonFC | At least a dozen people were staring at him and laughing. | Oct 15 07:01 |
| *DaemonFC is going to bed. | Oct 15 07:01 | |
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| iophk | http://mrpogson.com/2013/10/14/two-teats-on-ms-cash-cow-dry-up/ | Oct 15 07:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | mrpogson.com | Two Teats On M$’s Cash-cow Dry Up | Robert Pogson [ http://ur1.ca/fw5k9 ] | Oct 15 07:19 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3174539 | Oct 15 07:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: UK Ministry of Defence seeks to counter growing opposition to war https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2013/10/14/mod-o14.html the threat of peace leads to war on peace | Oct 15 07:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.wsws.org | UK Ministry of Defence seeks to counter growing opposition to war - World Socialist Web Site [ http://ur1.ca/fw5ka ] | Oct 15 07:19 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | " | Oct 15 07:21 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | WAR - the Elites only means of grabbing other peoples land and resources. | Oct 15 07:21 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Those other peoples land they grab are not just for 1000 elite though - the land should be divided among the many - but it goes to the few - who then sell it back at massive profits to bankers ...... who then distribute the gains as loans ....... demanding more profits on lands and resources stolen from the very people that together owned all of these lands and resources ..... what went wrong with how people let this happen ...... | Oct 15 07:21 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | . the rule of law and force is still kicking people indigenous people off their own lands. | Oct 15 07:21 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Look for any indigenous people left and look at how the elite seem to target them ....... not on our behalf surely ....... the only self sustaining people left on the planet and we need to move them on .... off their lands with any means possible .......... | Oct 15 07:21 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | The people are coming to realize that any WAR is actually now self destructive and just aims at lower class working people. | Oct 15 07:21 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Just as it always did ....... but the History Cycles are slowly but surely showing a trend of transferring the wealth of our own lands to the very rich ........ who we now are starting to see their own GREED is endless ,,,,,,,, just one more war ......... | Oct 15 07:21 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Go on - we Billionaires cannot survive without one more WAR | Oct 15 07:21 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | " | Oct 15 07:21 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | War on war is terrorism now. | Oct 15 07:21 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3172738 | Oct 15 07:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The only "Supreme" thing about the SCOTUS is that it protects the Supreme (multinational mega-corporations) from the majority. | Oct 15 07:22 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "But none of that has anything to do with how SCOTUS operates: they aren't pro- or anti-Big Business; they interpret the law as it's written by congress. Congress is certainly pro-Big Business, but that's got nothing to do with SCOTUS, nor is SCOTUS in a position to fix it." | Oct 15 07:22 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "Individual Justices certainly can be pro-Big business. Many of them have worked for America's biggest businesses. They're not super-people that don't have philosophical biases, otherwise there wouldn't be arguments over who is being nominated for the Supreme Court. There's arguments over nominations precisely because people know they will take that with them to the Court." | Oct 15 07:22 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "Of course individual justices can have biases. But that's not what the OP said." | Oct 15 07:23 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3172740 | Oct 15 07:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The world needs some good leaks from the SCOTUS and DOJ. Any whistleblowers to come forth? | Oct 15 07:23 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "Brad, there have been a great number of leaks surrounding the Supreme Court in history. There have been many notable occasions in which decisions were leaked before they were officially made. Roe v. Wade, the recent Affordable Care Act decision, you just need to look for them and they are there. There is nothing special about the way the court "works" that makes it immune to leaks." | Oct 15 07:24 |
| iophk | https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2013/10/insecurities_in.html | Oct 15 07:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.schneier.com | Schneier on Security: Insecurities in the Linux /dev/random [ http://ur1.ca/fw5l3 ] | Oct 15 07:24 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | " | Oct 15 07:25 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | I didn't say that there was anything in the court making it immune to leaks. | Oct 15 07:25 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | SCOTUS leaks about pending cases aren't the juicy gossip the OP was talking about, I suspect he means something more salacious, conspiratorial, or criminal. And the justices, while certainly colorful, don't work that way. They don't need to: They're lifetime appointee legal scholars; people don't come much duller. They have no remaining aspirations beyond writing decisions: they've achieved the pinnacle for their profession. There | Oct 15 07:25 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | s not much to leak, and little value that hasn't been speculated to death ahead of time. What would a whistleblower uncover? | Oct 15 07:25 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | I've read biographies of half a dozen justices and a big day for most of them involves reading a different newspaper in the morning. | Oct 15 07:25 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Maybe some of the clerks, but they're pretty uptight too. Insider trading is about the only thing that could come of it. Yawn. | Oct 15 07:25 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | " | Oct 15 07:25 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | " | Oct 15 07:25 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Respectfully, I don't think you're thinking this through very well. A "bombshell" SCOTUS leak could, for instance, be a letter or email between a Justice and, say a past business associate whose company or a company they have an investment in that has a case before the Court. | Oct 15 07:25 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Conflict of interest would be the biggest thing that comes to my mind. Or perhaps a Justice being lobbied, which is illegal. What if information was leaked about Justices writing private correspondence containing their opinions on the PATRIOT ACT, or the current state of the FISC? What if a Justice privately wrote a letter expressing their regret at having voted in the majority of Citizens United? | Oct 15 07:25 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Information like that being made public would certainly have larger ramifications in the political discourse. | Oct 15 07:25 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | " | Oct 15 07:25 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | iophk: posted | Oct 15 07:28 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | no randomness means no encryption | Oct 15 07:28 |
| iophk | And trouble even with TCP | Oct 15 07:28 |
| MinceR | it's not exactly "no randomness", though | Oct 15 07:52 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3155208 | Oct 15 07:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Why did #Nvidia cripple its #Linux driver? http://www.itworld.com/open-source/377696/why-did-nvidia-cripple-its-linux-driver #windows | Oct 15 07:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.itworld.com | Why did Nvidia cripple its Linux driver? | ITworld [ http://ur1.ca/fuzuo ] | Oct 15 07:52 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "@Dr. Roy Schestowitz: too bad, and shame on them. Really, Shame on them." | Oct 15 07:53 |
| MinceR | it just means that it will recover relatively slowly from attacks | Oct 15 07:53 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3172587 | Oct 15 07:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared:  | Oct 15 07:53 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "To answer the question above: we are living in such society. Even when what is written here is true, there are otherthings that are not learned unless we go to school. But, I like this. Resharing. :)" | Oct 15 07:53 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3174539 | Oct 15 07:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: UK Ministry of Defence seeks to counter growing opposition to war https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2013/10/14/mod-o14.html the threat of peace leads to war on peace | Oct 15 07:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.wsws.org | UK Ministry of Defence seeks to counter growing opposition to war - World Socialist Web Site [ http://ur1.ca/fw5ka ] | Oct 15 07:55 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | " | Oct 15 07:55 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | It is going to take another 10 years to calm down and only then if people start to realize that it is not for the people. | Oct 15 07:55 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Poor people die ........... poor people die ............ poor people die. | Oct 15 07:55 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | How many Billionaires does it take to screw in a light bulb ....... none ....... they pay others to do any job they want doing - with money they get from the very people doing the jobs in the first place. | Oct 15 07:55 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Odd World ........ | Oct 15 07:55 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | " | Oct 15 07:55 |
| MinceR | rich people die too :> | Oct 15 07:56 |
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| iophk | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/10/15/gates_zuckerberg_to_offer_free_coding_lessons/ | Oct 15 08:10 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.theregister.co.uk | Gates, Zuckerberg, to deliver free coding lesson • The Register [ http://ur1.ca/fw5st ] | Oct 15 08:10 |
| MinceR | like i wanted to learn coding from people who have no idea about it | Oct 15 08:11 |
| MinceR | they should deliver free thieving lessons instead | Oct 15 08:11 |
| iophk | it's about spreading the lock-in | Oct 15 08:11 |
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| MinceR | geekings | Oct 15 09:17 |
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| iophk | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/10/15/snowden_nsa_snooping_hurts_our_economy/ | Oct 15 09:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.theregister.co.uk | Snowden: NSA hits Americans in the WALLET – have I got your attention now? • The Register [ http://ur1.ca/fw6a6 ] | Oct 15 09:53 |
| iophk | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/10/15/oracle_says_open_source_has_no_place_in_military_apps/ | Oct 15 09:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.theregister.co.uk | Oracle says open source has no place in military apps • The Register [ http://ur1.ca/fw6ab ] | Oct 15 09:54 |
| iophk | David A Wheeler or someone else can easily rebut that. | Oct 15 09:54 |
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| MinceR | no opposition candidates are allowed in a current intermediate election in hungary | Oct 15 10:56 |
| MinceR | it's just like communism | Oct 15 10:56 |
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| oiaohm | http://news.slashdot.org/story/13/10/15/0243230/chinas-state-press-calls-for-building-a-de-americanized-world This is not good. | Oct 15 12:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | news.slashdot.org | China's State Press Calls For 'Building a De-Americanized World' - Slashdot [ http://ur1.ca/fw70m ] | Oct 15 12:11 |
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| iophk | oiaohm: it's backlash from the last 2 administrations | Oct 15 12:38 |
| oiaohm | iophk: this plan has been talked about for a while. | Oct 15 12:39 |
| oiaohm | iophk: really its not about last 2 administrations. | Oct 15 12:40 |
| oiaohm | iophk: China can win the War against the USA by money. | Oct 15 12:40 |
| oiaohm | If USD is removed from major international trades like oil. | Oct 15 12:40 |
| oiaohm | USD value can free fall. | Oct 15 12:41 |
| iophk | Wasn't oil threatened to move to the Euro a while back? | Oct 15 12:41 |
| oiaohm | iophk: yes it was. | Oct 15 12:42 |
| oiaohm | The last major USA default. | Oct 15 12:42 |
| oiaohm | Yet the USA has not managed to pay back a single cent but now is even deeper in debt. | Oct 15 12:42 |
| iophk | Eventually there will be no new lenders, everyone will be maxed out. | Oct 15 12:43 |
| iophk | Then the debt-based economy will implode | Oct 15 12:43 |
| iophk | Also, isn't the yuan still tied to the dollar? | Oct 15 12:43 |
| oiaohm | iophk: there are no more lenders that can lend the USA enough money. | Oct 15 12:43 |
| oiaohm | yuan is not tied to the dollar | Oct 15 12:43 |
| iophk | without further lending the current system collapses | Oct 15 12:43 |
| iophk | there shouldn't have been unsustainable borrowing in the first place | Oct 15 12:44 |
| oiaohm | iophk: the yuan was unlocked from the USD in 2010 | Oct 15 12:45 |
| oiaohm | Yes the last debt screw up. | Oct 15 12:45 |
| iophk | And too much money has been used to bail out unprofitable business models | Oct 15 12:45 |
| oiaohm | iophk: it was the EU that put forward the EURO for oil but did not get china support. | Oct 15 12:46 |
| iophk | Why does the government owe certain businesses a guaranteed profit regardless of performance or relevancy to the current market? | Oct 15 12:46 |
| oiaohm | iophk: this is why I say not good. | Oct 15 12:46 |
| oiaohm | We now have the EU and China thinking something simlar. | Oct 15 12:46 |
| oiaohm | Now if they can come up with a unified agreement USA is in the crapper. | Oct 15 12:46 |
| iophk | Both thinking something similar at the same time, now | Oct 15 12:46 |
| iophk | Bush's policies, continued by Obama, have been driving everything and everyone away. | Oct 15 12:47 |
| oiaohm | They are not in 100 percent agreement yet. | Oct 15 12:47 |
| iophk | That's a cut into research, which means 10 −20 years from now a cut in profits. | Oct 15 12:47 |
| oiaohm | USA will lose a lot of things. | Oct 15 12:47 |
| oiaohm | Think about all the payments to farmers not to grow crops and other stupid things. | Oct 15 12:48 |
| iophk | By losing researchers they are losing research centers. | Oct 15 12:48 |
| oiaohm | Like the massive unsold supplied of grains. | Oct 15 12:48 |
| iophk | That topples them from world dominance. | Oct 15 12:48 |
| oiaohm | USA could do quite a big firesale. | Oct 15 12:48 |
| oiaohm | That would cause a fairly large international mess. | Oct 15 12:49 |
| iophk | There are large groups intent on cultivating 3rd world-like conditions inside the US. | Oct 15 12:49 |
| iophk | Largely they are succeeding | Oct 15 12:49 |
| oiaohm | Even doing the firesale the use cannot get enough money. | Oct 15 12:49 |
| iophk | Then you have business ideologies built around tear-down and bankruptcy. | Oct 15 12:49 |
| oiaohm | Heck 2012 the USA was 222 trillion in the read. | Oct 15 12:49 |
| iophk | Now they are applied to governance, like in Detroit. | Oct 15 12:49 |
| oiaohm | read/red | Oct 15 12:49 |
| oiaohm | Just paying 1 percent on 222 trillion is not simple. | Oct 15 12:49 |
| oiaohm | iophk: $52,882.39 per USA cit | Oct 15 12:51 |
| iophk | http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/22/us/politics/us-median-income-rises-but-is-still-6-below-its-2007-peak.html?_r=0 | Oct 15 12:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | myaccount.nytimes.com | Log In - The New York Times [ http://ur1.ca/fw79l ] | Oct 15 12:52 |
| iophk | "Although median annual household income rose to $52,100 in June" | Oct 15 12:52 |
| iophk | That debt is larger than the median annual income. | Oct 15 12:52 |
| iophk | Of course there is also the issue of large corporations not paying much if anything | Oct 15 12:53 |
| oiaohm | iophk: yep that is why it equals screwed. | Oct 15 12:53 |
| oiaohm | Australia is $17,165.49 per cit. | Oct 15 12:53 |
| oiaohm | Bad but workable. | Oct 15 12:53 |
| oiaohm | It would be possible to tax the hell out of Australia for a year and require all it debt. | Oct 15 12:54 |
| oiaohm | iophk: basically the magic line in sand is adverage house hold income. | Oct 15 12:55 |
| iophk | What if M$ payed tax? Then schools and universities could be funded so that skilled engineers can be produced, ending the whine about the "need" for H1B1 | Oct 15 12:55 |
| oiaohm | iophk: Australia population dispoable income a year is $36 082 per person. | Oct 15 12:56 |
| MinceR | m$ would still cause more damage than the tax it pays | Oct 15 12:56 |
| oiaohm | iophk: basically disposable being the ammount of income that you don't need to live. | Oct 15 12:56 |
| iophk | agreed | Oct 15 12:56 |
| iophk | but while it still exists it should be paying taxes | Oct 15 12:56 |
| oiaohm | iophk: so Australia debt level is still fine. | Oct 15 12:57 |
| oiaohm | Its possible for us to pay it. | Oct 15 12:57 |
| oiaohm | USA cits so screwed not funny. | Oct 15 12:57 |
| oiaohm | iophk: the debt level partly explains the massive work in the USA mil to move key systems off Windows to Linux. | Oct 15 12:59 |
| oiaohm | iophk: once national debt is high enough governement cannot print more money unless it want to go into free fall. | Oct 15 12:59 |
| iophk | AFAIK the government is buried deep into M$ and unable to get out. | Oct 15 12:59 |
| iophk | Years ago the Navy was supposed to move to "open systems" but look where they are now still. | Oct 15 13:00 |
| MinceR | they could get out if they wanted | Oct 15 13:00 |
| MinceR | they would eventually have their software rewritten anyway | Oct 15 13:00 |
| oiaohm | In fact core systems are being rewritten. | Oct 15 13:03 |
| oiaohm | Problem it they left it to the 11 hour ie last year. | Oct 15 13:03 |
| oiaohm | To start./ | Oct 15 13:03 |
| oiaohm | In fact what is happening the USA should send a wake up call to a lot of countries. | Oct 15 13:04 |
| oiaohm | Core systems cannot be dependant on payment to operation. | Oct 15 13:04 |
| iophk | Moving away from M$ will save a hell of a lot in the server centers. It will allow great consolidation of hardware. | Oct 15 13:05 |
| oiaohm | iophk: read the write ups on the USA governement clouds. | Oct 15 13:06 |
| oiaohm | iophk: Linux Linux and more Linux | Oct 15 13:07 |
| iophk | About time. | Oct 15 13:07 |
| oiaohm | iophk: desktops are still window ish with look at android. | Oct 15 13:07 |
| iophk | Many areas could benefit from LTSP | Oct 15 13:07 |
| oiaohm | Microsoft is dependant on MS Office holding. | Oct 15 13:08 |
| iophk | either with RaspberryPi desktops or with Userful's own hardware. | Oct 15 13:08 |
| oiaohm | Linux is evolving. | Oct 15 13:08 |
| oiaohm | work on wayland will bring multiseat in as a standard feature. | Oct 15 13:08 |
| oiaohm | Not a special feature. | Oct 15 13:08 |
| iophk | multiseat can be combined with LTSP | Oct 15 13:20 |
| iophk | cuts way back on noise and power consumption and maintenance | Oct 15 13:21 |
| oiaohm | iophk: multiseat is many form factors. | Oct 15 13:30 |
| oiaohm | all cut back power consumption and maintaince. | Oct 15 13:31 |
| oiaohm | LTSP is only 1 of the many form factors. | Oct 15 13:31 |
| iophk | Yes even ditching Windows lowers CPU load (and probably GPU), which adds up for megasites. | Oct 15 13:35 |
| Sosumi | meh nvidia | Oct 15 14:35 |
| Sosumi | they even make it run the marathon to get cuda running with up to date releases | Oct 15 14:36 |
| Sosumi | instead of supporting the latest releases, like fedora 19 | Oct 15 14:36 |
| Sosumi | or even back in the previous cuda toolkit, fedora 16 was the officialy supported release | Oct 15 14:37 |
| Sosumi | nvidia has better CUDA support for OSX than it has for linux, despite that almost no mac, except the imac, comes with nvidia gpus | Oct 15 14:39 |
| Sosumi | not even the last 2 revisions came with nvidia by default | Oct 15 14:40 |
| Sosumi | so yeah, nvidia, FU | Oct 15 14:40 |
| Sosumi | *last 2 revisions of the mac pro | Oct 15 14:42 |
| Sosumi | and RMS branding Steve Jobs a "malign influence" when he died | Oct 15 14:46 |
| Sosumi | well, just look at the general laptop before the crApple hype and look at them now | Oct 15 14:46 |
| Sosumi | at exception of the gaming laptops/mobile workstations | Oct 15 14:46 |
| Sosumi | the other machines, because they try to mimick the mackrook pro form factor | Oct 15 14:47 |
| Sosumi | they also get the problems of insuficient cooling | Oct 15 14:47 |
| Sosumi | I didn't have that kind of problems on my compaq armada from 2000 and somethings | Oct 15 14:48 |
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| iophk | http://source.android.com/source/licenses.html | Oct 15 15:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | source.android.com | Licenses | Android Developers [ http://ur1.ca/3yq2t ] | Oct 15 15:29 |
| iophk | "For userspace (that is, non-kernel) software, we do in fact prefer ASL2.0 (and similar licenses like BSD, MIT, etc.) over other licenses such as LGPL." | Oct 15 15:46 |
| MinceR | not new | Oct 15 15:48 |
| iophk | yes, it's old | Oct 15 15:54 |
| iophk | The more I see of Android the less open it seems to be. | Oct 15 15:55 |
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| Sosumi | http://www.autofans.pt/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Carro_GPL.jpg | Oct 15 16:01 |
| Sosumi | GPL, the gold standard | Oct 15 16:01 |
| MinceR | :) | Oct 15 16:02 |
| MinceR | known elsewhere as "LPG" | Oct 15 16:02 |
| Sosumi | :) | Oct 15 16:02 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | http://linuxlock.blogspot.co.uk/2013/10/new-user-barrier-to-linux-i-think-i.html | Oct 15 17:13 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | linuxlock.blogspot.co.uk | The Blog of Helios: New User Barrier To Linux - I Think I Found The Problem.... [ http://ur1.ca/fw8mx ] | Oct 15 17:13 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "Facebook...be there or be square." | Oct 15 17:13 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | And massive FB logo | Oct 15 17:13 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | pro-Linux blog saying if you're not on FB (CIA informants) you're /"square" | Oct 15 17:14 |
| iophk | Also he should have stuck with packaged applications. | Oct 15 17:50 |
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| iophk | There's never a good reason to lead new users away from pre-packaged applications. If it's not in the repository, then it's not available (for them) | Oct 15 17:51 |
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| MinceR | i guess he'll be happy with an OS that couldn't get USB support right by 2013 | Oct 15 19:00 |
| MinceR | i guess that's good enough for him | Oct 15 19:00 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3174849 | Oct 15 19:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @linux@joindiaspora.com: The Poetterisation of GNU/Linux http://slated.org/the_poetterisation_of_gnu_linux | Oct 15 19:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> slated.org | The Poetterisation of GNU/Linux | Slated [ http://ur1.ca/fw9bv ] | Oct 15 19:03 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "This character seems to want to get rid of all non-programming linux users and usher in a utopia of the True Unix Way by also getting rid of all developers who do not follow it. So basically he's a hipster." | Oct 15 19:04 |
| iophk | "they not only bring with them their indoctrinated expectations, misguided ideologies and flawed methods, but worse still they actually implement them, thus destroying GNU/Linux from within." | Oct 15 19:09 |
| iophk | Really afraid of LibreOffice and/or Chromebooks : http://www.informationweek.com/software/enterprise-applications/microsoft-free-office-365-for-students/240162633 | Oct 15 19:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.informationweek.com | Microsoft: Free Office 365 For Students - Software - Enterprise [ http://ur1.ca/fw9j0 ] | Oct 15 19:40 |
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| Sosumi | yes, yes someone talking sanity on that Slated article | Oct 15 20:51 |
| Sosumi | http://slated.org/a_fool_and_his_money | Oct 15 21:13 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | slated.org | A Fool and His Money | Slated | Oct 15 21:13 |
| Sosumi | are soon parted | Oct 15 21:13 |
| Sosumi | :) | Oct 15 21:13 |
| Sosumi | actually, many games nowadays equals chasing a carrot on a stick while you being the horse | Oct 15 21:13 |
| Sosumi | dlc, too much farming, unlocks... | Oct 15 21:14 |
| Sosumi | free dlc in case of pre-ordering and the list goes on | Oct 15 21:15 |
| Sosumi | but anyways, the gods only need one game and that's quake 3 | Oct 15 21:15 |
| MinceR | i prefer xonotic | Oct 15 21:16 |
| MinceR | (and free software (code and assets) fps-es in general) | Oct 15 21:17 |
| Sosumi | yeah, I'm seeing it now | Oct 15 21:17 |
| Sosumi | but I really don't play any games at all | Oct 15 21:17 |
| Sosumi | university gets the most out of me | Oct 15 21:17 |
| MinceR | nowadays i find little time to play | Oct 15 21:17 |
| MinceR | work and personal projects take my energy :> | Oct 15 21:18 |
| Sosumi | I don't even have a single game here at my apartment | Oct 15 21:19 |
| Sosumi | but I do like when I manage to go home at some special weekend | Oct 15 21:19 |
| Sosumi | you know, like those preceded by an holyday | Oct 15 21:20 |
| Sosumi | to fire my quad g5 and go blow things | Oct 15 21:20 |
| Sosumi | on quake 3 or ut2k4 | Oct 15 21:21 |
| Sosumi | but outside of those fast paced games I really don't like anything else | Oct 15 21:21 |
| MinceR | :) | Oct 15 21:21 |
| Sosumi | and for storys, well I'd rather read a book, that is not fiction | Oct 15 21:22 |
| Sosumi | although I have to admit that I enjoyed a lot Eternal Darkness on the game cube | Oct 15 21:22 |
| Sosumi | and actually asked my grandparents the thing just to play that game | Oct 15 21:22 |
| Sosumi | I was 13 at the time -good times- | Oct 15 21:23 |
| Sosumi | well and got the original xbox just to play shemue 2 | Oct 15 21:24 |
| Sosumi | shamefully, I should have gotten the dreamcast instead | Oct 15 21:24 |
| Sosumi | at least I would have been able to play the first shemmue | Oct 15 21:25 |
| MinceR | i read both fiction and nonfiction | Oct 15 21:25 |
| Sosumi | but that is because I happen to enjoy bruce lee movies or those early ones with Van Damme | Oct 15 21:26 |
| Sosumi | I tend to read nonfiction, but outside of math manuals and computer stuff I tend to go for filosofy and psychology | Oct 15 21:26 |
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| Sosumi | http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-10-15/meanwhile-real-world-americans-sell-hair-breast-milk-and-eggs-make-ends-meet | Oct 15 22:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.zerohedge.com | Meanwhile In The Real World, Americans Sell Hair, Breast Milk And Eggs To Make Ends Meet | Zero Hedge [ http://ur1.ca/fwaej ] | Oct 15 22:48 |
| Sosumi | :( | Oct 15 22:48 |
| Sosumi | hopefully i wont end like in china, where ppl are hunted down and sold in parts | Oct 15 22:49 |
| Sosumi | *it | Oct 15 22:49 |
| Sosumi | or maybe it will, in times of financial like these and with degeneracy creeping everywhere... | Oct 15 22:50 |
| Sosumi | I don't really know | Oct 15 22:50 |
| Sosumi | it was just like 3 days ago, portuguese gov confiscating your 2nd pension | Oct 15 22:51 |
| Sosumi | so if you worked your entire life and managed to accumulate 2 pensions, one of them goes away like the wind | Oct 15 22:52 |
| Sosumi | meanwhile, politicians do a 3 full terms and they get a complete reform | Oct 15 22:53 |
| Sosumi | like if they had worked their entire life | Oct 15 22:53 |
| Sosumi | not to mention their sallary while occupying that "venerable" public post | Oct 15 22:54 |
| Sosumi | ho and should mention, everything is ok, even through they just stole the damm, pensions, no one lifted a finger or said something | Oct 15 22:57 |
| Sosumi | the level of indiference in country is just nauseating | Oct 15 22:57 |
| Sosumi | http://davideubank.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/they_livex.jpg | Oct 15 22:58 |
| Sosumi | just as everyone believes what the man in between vomits (media=mediator) | Oct 15 22:59 |
| Sosumi | in the real world, unemployment in portugal predicted to reach 23.3% by 2015 | Oct 15 23:00 |
| Sosumi | kewl, | Oct 15 23:00 |
| Sosumi | and I did alert some of the folks I knew, they'd be coming for the pensions here | Oct 15 23:01 |
| Sosumi | followed polland confiscating half of their pension funds | Oct 15 23:01 |
| Sosumi | http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-09-06/poland-confiscates-half-private-pension-funds-cut-sovereign-debt-load | Oct 15 23:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.zerohedge.com | Poland Confiscates Half Of Private Pension Funds To "Cut" Sovereign Debt Load | Zero Hedge [ http://ur1.ca/fwahb ] | Oct 15 23:03 |
| Sosumi | confiscate funds -> cut debt to gdp -> issue more debt | Oct 15 23:03 |
| Sosumi | brooliant! who ever came up with that deserves a nobel piss prize in wathever | Oct 15 23:04 |
| Sosumi | well, not to mention that former portuguese prime minister socrates sold government owned buildings and 3 public hospitals | Oct 15 23:05 |
| Sosumi | only to rent them back, thus hiding the debt burden | Oct 15 23:05 |
| Sosumi | again another brooliant deal | Oct 15 23:06 |
| Sosumi | meanwhile the rich guys that the con man (politicians) always talks about taxing and this or that | Oct 15 23:07 |
| Sosumi | has his money in non profit foundations, which can't be taxed | Oct 15 23:07 |
| Sosumi | so the rich guys paying for everything ends up being those earning the misery of 2000€ a month sallary | Oct 15 23:08 |
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| DaemonFC | Have my car scheduled to go back into the shop tomorrow. | Oct 16 01:19 |
| DaemonFC | Transmission flush and spark plugs and wires. | Oct 16 01:19 |
| DaemonFC | I flushed the coolant and replaced a bad relay for the rear window defroster yesterday. | Oct 16 01:20 |
| DaemonFC | Auto Zone had the coolant and flush solvents on sale. | Oct 16 01:20 |
| DaemonFC | So I used Peak Extended Life. It says 5 years/150,000 miles. | Oct 16 01:21 |
| DaemonFC | When the car had been off for several hours, I took my garden hose sprayer and cleaned out the radiator grill. :P | Oct 16 01:21 |
| DaemonFC | dead bugs and crap get in there over time | Oct 16 01:21 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | www.youtube.com | Lexx - 791 Dance - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/fwbom ] | Oct 16 03:20 |
| DaemonFC | LOL | Oct 16 03:20 |
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| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3174803 | Oct 16 09:18 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Elementary OS 0.2 Luna – now that’s more like it http://www.binarytides.com/elementary-os-luna-review/ #gnu #linux | Oct 16 09:18 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.binarytides.com | Elementary OS 0.2 Luna – now that’s more like it [ http://ur1.ca/fwdcs ] | Oct 16 09:18 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | I read "based on ubuntu" and stopped reading further... :)"77" | Oct 16 09:18 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Ubuntu is based on Debian. You can take Ubuntu repos and not use Canonical's bad practices and tools. | Oct 16 09:18 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "I use Elementary OS on my netbook (Asus F201) and I really like it." | Oct 16 09:19 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3174840 | Oct 16 09:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Ubuntu 13.10 Review: A great Linux desktop gets better http://www.zdnet.com/ubuntu-13-10-review-a-great-linux-desktop-gets-better-7000021825/ #ubuntu #gnu #linux | Oct 16 09:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.zdnet.com | Ubuntu 13.10 Review: A great Linux desktop gets better | ZDNet [ http://ur1.ca/fwdd5 ] | Oct 16 09:21 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | zdnet is so ironical..."7" | Oct 16 09:21 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Excepting SJVN, zdnet is trollery and agenda disguised as news http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/ZDNet | Oct 16 09:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | techrights.org | ZDNet - Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/d50sx ] | Oct 16 09:21 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3174833 | Oct 16 09:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Ubuntu 13.10 vs. Fedora Linux CPU Benchmarks http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTQ4MTc #gnu #linux #fedora #ubuntu | Oct 16 09:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.phoronix.com | [Phoronix] Ubuntu 13.10 vs. Fedora Linux CPU Benchmarks [ http://ur1.ca/fwdda ] | Oct 16 09:22 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Slackware+Ratpoison is faster.. :)"77" | Oct 16 09:22 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Yet lacking some function | Oct 16 09:22 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3174754 | Oct 16 09:26 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: GNU and Linux not dependent on Canonical http://fossforce.com/2013/10/disaster-ubuntu-ceased-exist/ | Oct 16 09:26 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> fossforce.com | Would It Be a Disaster If Ubuntu Ceased to Exist? - FOSS Force [ http://ur1.ca/fwddw ] | Oct 16 09:26 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Is that even a question? lol"77" | Oct 16 09:26 |
| MinceR | geekings | Oct 16 09:34 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | http://sphericalbullshit.wordpress.com/2013/10/16/an-uplifting-story-plz-share-lol/ | Oct 16 12:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | sphericalbullshit.wordpress.com | An Uplifting Story! PLZ SHARE!! LOL! | Spherical Bullshit [ http://ur1.ca/fwe8y ] | Oct 16 12:28 |
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| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3178730 | Oct 16 14:38 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: SolusOS: A Linux Distro Stands Its Ground… http://fossforce.com/2013/10/solusos-linux-distro-stands-ground/ #SolusOS #gnu #linux | Oct 16 14:38 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> fossforce.com | SolusOS: A Linux Distro Stands Its Ground… - FOSS Force [ http://ur1.ca/fwey0 ] | Oct 16 14:38 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "Worst Debian-based distribution I'd ever seen." | Oct 16 14:38 |
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| Sosumi | ubuntu and "Moronical" two things that need to be burned to the ground | Oct 16 14:46 |
| MinceR | :> | Oct 16 14:47 |
| Sosumi | baby! | Oct 16 14:48 |
| Sosumi | https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2013/10/iphone_sensor_s.html | Oct 16 14:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.schneier.com | Schneier on Security: iPhone Sensor Surveillance [ http://ur1.ca/fwf1f ] | Oct 16 14:50 |
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| DaemonFC | The car is in the shop again. This time I'm having them drop the transmission pan and clean it out, replace the filter, replace the pan gasket, and then flush all the old fluid out and refill it. | Oct 16 15:03 |
| DaemonFC | I'm doing new spark plugs and wires. I told them to use the 120,000 mile Iridium plugs. | Oct 16 15:04 |
| Sosumi | which car did you get? | Oct 16 15:04 |
| DaemonFC | and while it's in there anyway, I told them to replace the fuel filter. Could do it myself, but I don't feel like getting sprayed with gasoline. | Oct 16 15:04 |
| DaemonFC | I had them fix the rear defroster and heated side mirrors on Monday ($40, bad relay), and flush and fill the coolant system. | Oct 16 15:05 |
| Sosumi | second had Abrams? | Oct 16 15:05 |
| Sosumi | *hand | Oct 16 15:05 |
| DaemonFC | Sosumi, A 1996 Ford Crown Victoria LX with 94,000 miles on it. | Oct 16 15:05 |
| Sosumi | never seen one of those here in portugal | Oct 16 15:06 |
| DaemonFC | eventually, I'm going to get all the paint blemishes buffed out or touched up, put in a new front grill, and pull out the factory radio and replace it with a touch screen one with navigation system, satellite radio, bluetooth, etc. | Oct 16 15:06 |
| DaemonFC | It'll look brand new by the time I'm finished next year. | Oct 16 15:07 |
| Sosumi | don't do that, just yank the radio | Oct 16 15:07 |
| Sosumi | and enjoy silence | Oct 16 15:07 |
| DaemonFC | I want the touch screen one with the navigation system | Oct 16 15:07 |
| MinceR | Sosumi: it can be turned off :> | Oct 16 15:07 |
| DaemonFC | That way I don't have to print out a map every time I go somewhere. | Oct 16 15:07 |
| Sosumi | ^^ | Oct 16 15:08 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Actually, it can't. | Oct 16 15:08 |
| MinceR | i use a mobile phone holder for that | Oct 16 15:08 |
| DaemonFC | When you push the button to turn it off, it comes right back on. | Oct 16 15:08 |
| MinceR | oh, right, it's the one with the broken radio | Oct 16 15:08 |
| DaemonFC | So I just turn the volume all the way down. | Oct 16 15:08 |
| DaemonFC | No big deal. | Oct 16 15:08 |
| DaemonFC | Right now I'm just using a MP3 player to cassette adapter I got for like $6. | Oct 16 15:08 |
| DaemonFC | you just put it in the tape deck and plug the other end into the headphone jack on your mp3 player. | Oct 16 15:09 |
| DaemonFC | https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/1398794_154021488141224_995077278_o.jpg | Oct 16 15:12 |
| DaemonFC | https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/q71/s720x720/1374910_154021581474548_2122539468_n.jpg | Oct 16 15:13 |
| DaemonFC | https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/q74/s720x720/1384194_154021768141196_1070508783_n.jpg | Oct 16 15:14 |
| DaemonFC | https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/q77/s720x720/1385621_154021928141180_627098852_n.jpg | Oct 16 15:14 |
| DaemonFC | https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/q71/s720x720/1380844_154021524807887_45182308_n.jpg | Oct 16 15:14 |
| DaemonFC | Sosumi, So there she is. :) | Oct 16 15:14 |
| DaemonFC | I'm doing some catch up maintenance and a tune up at the moment. | Oct 16 15:15 |
| DaemonFC | I'll have them do some paint repair and such later on. | Oct 16 15:16 |
| DaemonFC | Nobody ever changes their transmission fluid. | Oct 16 15:16 |
| Sosumi | doesn't look bad | Oct 16 15:16 |
| DaemonFC | You're supposed to do a drain and fill every 30,000 miles, but people never do. So if you get a car near 100,000 miles, you need to do a flush. | Oct 16 15:16 |
| Sosumi | how much did you pay? | Oct 16 15:16 |
| DaemonFC | $2,200 | Oct 16 15:16 |
| DaemonFC | When you do a transmission drain and fill, you only get like 5-6 quarts of ATF fluid out. The system holds roughly 12-14 quarts on most vehicles. | Oct 16 15:17 |
| DaemonFC | So doing the service every 30,000 miles will keep the fluid fresh enough that you should never have to flush it. | Oct 16 15:17 |
| DaemonFC | If the last owner never did the drain and fills, you need to do a flush right away to force all of the old fluid out and replace it with all new fluid. | Oct 16 15:18 |
| DaemonFC | The procedure is very inefficient, so it costs more. | Oct 16 15:18 |
| DaemonFC | They end up using an additional 6-8 quarts of fluid during the process of flushing the old fluid out. | Oct 16 15:19 |
| DaemonFC | They should also drop the pan and clean it out, and replace the transmission filter and the pan gasket at this time. | Oct 16 15:19 |
| DaemonFC | Copper spark plugs need replaced every 30,000 miles for optimal fuel efficiency and engine performance. This is another thing that almost nobody ever does. | Oct 16 15:20 |
| DaemonFC | So the original factory plugs are still on the car after more than 90,000 miles. | Oct 16 15:20 |
| DaemonFC | I'm having them change the wires at the same time. | Oct 16 15:20 |
| DaemonFC | I told them to put in the Iridium tipped plugs because those last 120,000 miles. | Oct 16 15:20 |
| DaemonFC | They're more expensive, but they save you from four scheduled spark plug changes, so they end up saving you alot more than they cost. | Oct 16 15:21 |
| DaemonFC | Most shops will put in copper ones unless you tell them not to. | Oct 16 15:21 |
| DaemonFC | Since changing the plugs is about $150 in the shop, you want the long life plugs to avoid going to the shop every 30,000 miles. | Oct 16 15:22 |
| DaemonFC | If they save you from $450 in shop parts and labor and they only cost an additional $5 per plug * 8, you're paying $40 to save $450. | Oct 16 15:23 |
| DaemonFC | So it's just good to use better plugs. | Oct 16 15:23 |
| DaemonFC | I also took in one of their newspaper ads today. 10% off all shop labor charges. | Oct 16 15:23 |
| DaemonFC | Sosumi, It's a good car. The Ford 4.6 V8 is an outstanding engine. | Oct 16 15:24 |
| DaemonFC | They stopped making Crown Victorias a couple of years ago. They're pushing the Ford Taurus Police Interceptor now. | Oct 16 15:25 |
| DaemonFC | 3.7 liter DOHC engine | Oct 16 15:25 |
| DaemonFC | V6 | Oct 16 15:25 |
| DaemonFC | Ford has these "EcoBoost" engines in everything now. | Oct 16 15:26 |
| DaemonFC | So they phased out the V8. | Oct 16 15:26 |
| MinceR | why didn't you buy a Ford Taurus Police Interceptor? :> | Oct 16 15:26 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, They're too new. | Oct 16 15:26 |
| MinceR | finally you'd have something to intercept police with! | Oct 16 15:26 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 16 15:26 |
| DaemonFC | The police aren't phasing out older models yet, and you can't buy them with that equipment package directly from Ford. | Oct 16 15:27 |
| DaemonFC | They probably cost $60,000. So there's that. :) | Oct 16 15:27 |
| DaemonFC | The doors on the Taurus police interceptor are bulletproof now. | Oct 16 15:28 |
| MinceR | :> | Oct 16 15:28 |
| DaemonFC | I wonder why they weren't doing this before 2013. | Oct 16 15:28 |
| MinceR | is the glass bulletproof too? | Oct 16 15:28 |
| DaemonFC | Not sure. | Oct 16 15:28 |
| DaemonFC | The cops use the car doors as a shield. So Ford started making the doors bulletproof. | Oct 16 15:28 |
| iophk | http://www.wired.com/opinion/2013/10/how-to-design-and-defend-against-the-perfect-backdoor/ | Oct 16 15:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.wired.com | How to Design — And Defend Against — The Perfect Security Backdoor | Wired Opinion | Wired.com [ http://ur1.ca/fwf7w ] | Oct 16 15:28 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2012/09/police-interceptor-sedan-630.jpeg | Oct 16 15:30 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jc_q6Wa_es | Oct 16 15:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.youtube.com | NYPD Brand New Ford Taurus Police Interceptor - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/fwf86 ] | Oct 16 15:30 |
| iophk | http://arstechnica.com/security/2013/10/dexter-malware-infects-south-african-restaurants-costs-banks-millions/ | Oct 16 15:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | arstechnica.com | “Dexter” malware infects South African restaurants, costs banks millions | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/fwf8d ] | Oct 16 15:31 |
| iophk | People stupid enough to use Windows for point-of-sale | Oct 16 15:31 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Don't you love how the cops can park their car in the middle of a lane on the street during rush hour? | Oct 16 15:31 |
| iophk | The owner of the malware could snap up lots of cc info that way. | Oct 16 15:32 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: yeah, i love how laws don't apply to cops | Oct 16 15:33 |
| DaemonFC | "costs banks millions" | Oct 16 15:35 |
| DaemonFC | So? They can always print themselves more. | Oct 16 15:35 |
| iophk | http://www.infoworld.com/print/228862 | Oct 16 15:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.infoworld.com | Scroogled my ass | Oct 16 15:39 |
| DaemonFC | It shocks me that people don't take better care of their cars. | Oct 16 15:43 |
| DaemonFC | Even stuff like changing the spark plugs. | Oct 16 15:43 |
| DaemonFC | They're paying more for the loss in fuel economy than a set of plugs cost. | Oct 16 15:43 |
| DaemonFC | Or the coolant system | Oct 16 15:44 |
| DaemonFC | A flush costs $65 in a shop. A new radiator is $500, a new heater core is $600, a new water pump will cost about $200. | Oct 16 15:45 |
| DaemonFC | A transmission service is $50 for your scheduled drain and fills. A rebuilt transmission is over $1,200, | Oct 16 15:45 |
| DaemonFC | Common sense says that paying $1 to save $10-20 later is a good decision. | Oct 16 15:46 |
| DaemonFC | But people are dumb and they just don't take care of what they have. | Oct 16 15:46 |
| DaemonFC | There's a joke that dentists use. Only floss the teeth you want to keep. | Oct 16 15:47 |
| DaemonFC | But it carries over to machinery. Only maintain what you want to keep. | Oct 16 15:47 |
| DaemonFC | Skimping on maintenance is a very bad decision that WILL cost you alot more later. | Oct 16 15:48 |
| DaemonFC | Maybe even your life. | Oct 16 15:48 |
| DaemonFC | People neglect their brakes and drive around with the pads making that horrible screeching sound. | Oct 16 15:48 |
| DaemonFC | What do they think happens when your brakes go out? | Oct 16 15:48 |
| DaemonFC | Where will you be and how fast will you be going when that happens? :) | Oct 16 15:48 |
| DaemonFC | I see people driving around on bald tires all the time too. | Oct 16 15:49 |
| DaemonFC | You might get away with that if it's not raining or if there's no ice on the road. | Oct 16 15:49 |
| DaemonFC | Walmart carries Goodyear Viva 2's for $70 each. | Oct 16 15:50 |
| DaemonFC | That's what I always use when I need new tires. | Oct 16 15:50 |
| DaemonFC | I try to stay out of their TLE for oil changes, but tires are really expensive at other shops. | Oct 16 15:50 |
| DaemonFC | The cheapest tire that Wertenberger has is like $200 each. | Oct 16 15:50 |
| DaemonFC | Nothing wrong with cheap Goodyear tires. The more expensive ones are an immediate diminishing returns situation. | Oct 16 15:51 |
| DaemonFC | You could pay three times as much for a tire that's 10% better, but why? | Oct 16 15:51 |
| DaemonFC | When I test drove that used Pontiac Montana van, I noticed that there was crap floating around the coolant reservoir, and the transmission had been neglected, but he had $1,000 worth of brand new tires on it. | Oct 16 15:52 |
| DaemonFC | People are nuts. | Oct 16 15:52 |
| DaemonFC | I would have gotten the Viva 2's and use the rest of the money to maintain the vehicle. | Oct 16 15:53 |
| DaemonFC | That Montana was ready for the junkyard at only 117,000 miles. What a waste. | Oct 16 15:53 |
| DaemonFC | If he had just taken care of it, it would have probably gone to at least 200-250. | Oct 16 15:53 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09o07bh0k-4 | Oct 16 15:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.youtube.com | Dumb Things NOT To Do To Your Car - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/fwfbt ] | Oct 16 15:54 |
| DaemonFC | I like this guy. | Oct 16 15:54 |
| DaemonFC | People also spend money on dumb things like "fuel saving" devices while they neglect their vehicle. | Oct 16 15:55 |
| DaemonFC | The US EPA tested like 125 of those devices, and concluded that only about 6 of them actually saved fuel. | Oct 16 15:55 |
| DaemonFC | I'd be cautious about those even if they did. They're not a Ford authorized part, so there's no telling what other effects they may have on your car. | Oct 16 15:55 |
| DaemonFC | oh, and car batteries | Oct 16 15:56 |
| DaemonFC | I get those at Walmart. | Oct 16 15:56 |
| DaemonFC | It's dead simple to install those. I don't think they'll fuck that up. | Oct 16 15:57 |
| DaemonFC | +1 on not letting your car run low/out of gas. | Oct 16 15:58 |
| DaemonFC | It puts strain on the fuel pump. It could overheat and fail. That's a $600 repair. | Oct 16 15:58 |
| DaemonFC | The shop will have to drop the gas tank to get to it. | Oct 16 15:58 |
| MinceR | and then you get to figure out how to get gas to your car | Oct 16 15:58 |
| DaemonFC | It also sucks in all of the crap that's floating on top of the gasoline and might plug up your fuel filter. | Oct 16 15:59 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I have AAA. | Oct 16 15:59 |
| MinceR | though i guess some people carry an extra tank of gas with them | Oct 16 15:59 |
| DaemonFC | They'd bring me a couple gallons of gas. | Oct 16 15:59 |
| MinceR | Alcoholics Anonymous Assistance? | Oct 16 15:59 |
| DaemonFC | But letting your car run out of gas is by far the dumbest thing you could do. | Oct 16 15:59 |
| DaemonFC | There's a gauge, and even a light that comes on that says "LOW FUEL". | Oct 16 15:59 |
| DaemonFC | So it's impossible to miss. | Oct 16 15:59 |
| DaemonFC | Unless you drive a GM vehicle and have one of their gas gauges that likes to bounce from full to empty at random. | Oct 16 16:00 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 16 16:00 |
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| DaemonFC | But GM sucks and anyone that pays alot of money for a GM vehicle is a fucking idiot to begin with. | Oct 16 16:00 |
| DaemonFC | They hardly ever build one that works right. | Oct 16 16:00 |
| MinceR | hm | Oct 16 16:01 |
| MinceR | maybe nokia hired that guy to do the battery meter for the n97 | Oct 16 16:01 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Almost every GM vehicle built since 1999 will have the gas gauge problem eventually. | Oct 16 16:05 |
| DaemonFC | It costs $600 to get it replaced in a shop. And the new one will start doing it too. | Oct 16 16:05 |
| MinceR | and where does Chrysler stand? | Oct 16 16:05 |
| DaemonFC | So most people with a 5+ year old GM vehicle just use the trip odometer and guess. | Oct 16 16:06 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 16 16:06 |
| MinceR | (we've discussed ford and gm, but not chrysler) | Oct 16 16:06 |
| DaemonFC | Chrysler/Dodge.... Uhhm. I wouldn't buy a vehicle from a company that puts the fuel filter INSIDE the gas tank. | Oct 16 16:07 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 16 16:07 |
| MinceR | why? | Oct 16 16:07 |
| DaemonFC | It costs $40 to change the fuel filter on a Ford Crown Vic in the shop. | Oct 16 16:07 |
| DaemonFC | It costs about $150 to change it on a Chrysler. | Oct 16 16:07 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 16 16:07 |
| MinceR | also, it's funny that Dodge cars are marked with an instruction to pedestrians | Oct 16 16:07 |
| MinceR | on the front | Oct 16 16:07 |
| MinceR | ic | Oct 16 16:07 |
| DaemonFC | Dodge it or get Rammed. | Oct 16 16:08 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 16 16:08 |
| MinceR | :) | Oct 16 16:08 |
| DaemonFC | Ford makes excellent trucks, decent cars, and piss poor vans. | Oct 16 16:08 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 16 16:08 |
| DaemonFC | GM doesn't make anything right. | Oct 16 16:08 |
| DaemonFC | Dodge/Chrysler has decent trucks, decent vans, and bad cars. | Oct 16 16:09 |
| DaemonFC | The main advantage to buying Ford is that their warranty and recall policies are the best out of the three, and after your car is out of warranty, it's easier and cheaper to have work done on it than the others. | Oct 16 16:10 |
| DaemonFC | The parts are less expensive and generally easier to get to, so you save on shop hours too. | Oct 16 16:10 |
| DaemonFC | The Crown Vic is a reliable car, but every car will have stuff that fails eventually. It's nice to know that you have a car that will require less shop hours for most repairs when something does happen. | Oct 16 16:11 |
| DaemonFC | Honda makes reliable cars, but the reputation is exaggerated, so the price goes up. | Oct 16 16:11 |
| DaemonFC | Way up. | Oct 16 16:11 |
| DaemonFC | Even on used ones. | Oct 16 16:11 |
| DaemonFC | Then you have to find a good independent mechanic that knows Hondas. | Oct 16 16:12 |
| DaemonFC | That's not uncommon, but it's more common to find one with a good working knowledge of Fords. | Oct 16 16:12 |
| MinceR | i still prefer to not waste time on having my car serviced. :> | Oct 16 16:13 |
| DaemonFC | Alot of Honda owners take it to the dealer, because shops that specialize in Honda/Toyota/Nissan vehicles typically charge more per hour than most independent mechanics would to work on a Ford. | Oct 16 16:13 |
| DaemonFC | So the price difference between the Honda Dealer and Import Doctors is not large. | Oct 16 16:13 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 16 16:13 |
| DaemonFC | They're both expensive. | Oct 16 16:13 |
| DaemonFC | Also, Honda doesn't have anything with a V8 to the best of my knowledge. | Oct 16 16:14 |
| DaemonFC | The Ford modular V8 is a damned good engine. | Oct 16 16:14 |
| DaemonFC | Many of them make it to or exceed 300,000 miles with the scheduled maintenance being adhered to. | Oct 16 16:14 |
| DaemonFC | It's totally worth keeping your old Crown Vic going. | Oct 16 16:15 |
| DaemonFC | They put that 4.6 V8 in a lot of their vehicles. | Oct 16 16:16 |
| DaemonFC | and it's not a gas guzzler | Oct 16 16:16 |
| DaemonFC | Even with the worn out spark plugs and factory wires on my 96, I am getting almost 22 mpg. | Oct 16 16:17 |
| DaemonFC | I suspect that will increase when they get done with that. | Oct 16 16:17 |
| DaemonFC | I put platinum plugs in my Taurus right after I bought it. | Oct 16 16:20 |
| DaemonFC | The gas mileage did go up a little bit. | Oct 16 16:20 |
| DaemonFC | I like the platinums because you can go 60,000-120,000 miles without replacing them again (depending on the brand). | Oct 16 16:21 |
| DaemonFC | So when your car has over 100,000 miles on it and you use platinums, you may only ever need to do it once. | Oct 16 16:21 |
| iophk | http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2013-10/16/facebook-third-world | Oct 16 16:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.wired.co.uk | Facebook is trying to buy its way into the developing world (Wired UK) [ http://ur1.ca/fwfgg ] | Oct 16 16:22 |
| DaemonFC | Each time the plug fires the cylinder, a little bit of the plug's head is worn away. Over time, your gas mileage drops, and so does the power output of your engine. If it gets really bad, you can start getting knocking and pinging. Your Service Engine light may even come on. | Oct 16 16:23 |
| DaemonFC | Platinum tips just don't wear down as fast as copper. | Oct 16 16:23 |
| MinceR | strange, platinum is a soft metal, afaik | Oct 16 16:24 |
| DaemonFC | Another thing people neglect is the fuel filter. | Oct 16 16:24 |
| DaemonFC | Gasoline is not as clean as the oil companies would have you believe. | Oct 16 16:24 |
| DaemonFC | Even though most owners manuals don't recommend a fuel filter change, you should do it at a minimum of 50,000 miles. | Oct 16 16:25 |
| DaemonFC | If you take one apart after 50,000, you'll see that the filter media is totally black. | Oct 16 16:25 |
| DaemonFC | If it gets bad enough, your car might not start, but even with partial blockage, you're putting increased wear on the fuel pump and your engine power output might drop noticeably, especially on the highway. | Oct 16 16:26 |
| DaemonFC | Some fuel filters even have a bypass that gets used if they clog, so you're sending unfiltered gas to your engine and it'll eventually clog up your fuel injectors. | Oct 16 16:26 |
| DaemonFC | It costs a few hundred dollars on most cars to have a mechanic remove and clean the injectors. | Oct 16 16:27 |
| DaemonFC | Those bottles that you pour in your fuel tank are not only worthless, they can dislodge some of the crap that's in your fuel tank and plug the filter. | Oct 16 16:27 |
| DaemonFC | So they're a waste of money at best, and might prevent your car from starting, which means you need to replace the filter anyway, like you should have done to start with. | Oct 16 16:28 |
| DaemonFC | If you replace the filter on time every time, your injectors should never be clogged in the first place. | Oct 16 16:28 |
| DaemonFC | Don't use oil or fuel additives, ever. | Oct 16 16:29 |
| DaemonFC | Don't ever get your engine "flushed". If you want to safely remove some varnish, just use Valvoline Maxlife Full Synthetic. It'll clean it up (or prevent the sludge and varnish to begin with) and it'll end up in your oil filter, where it belongs. | Oct 16 16:30 |
| DaemonFC | The filter gets changed with every oil change anyway. | Oct 16 16:30 |
| DaemonFC | I hardly ever recommend a product by brand name, but I do with engine oil. | Oct 16 16:31 |
| DaemonFC | The shops that offer an engine flush should be avoided completely. | Oct 16 16:33 |
| DaemonFC | They're a dishonest shop that is selling an unnecessary and dangerous "service". | Oct 16 16:33 |
| DaemonFC | If you get an engine flush, what you're really asking for is a wallet flush. | Oct 16 16:34 |
| DaemonFC | At the very least, it was a waste of $100, but it could ruin your engine. | Oct 16 16:34 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Does Dodge/Chrysler sell vehicles in Hungaristan? | Oct 16 16:35 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 16 16:35 |
| DaemonFC | I drove a Dodge car once, but only because it was a rental. | Oct 16 16:35 |
| DaemonFC | At the time, it was a brand new '03 Dodge Stratus. | Oct 16 16:35 |
| DaemonFC | They're a nice car when they're new. | Oct 16 16:35 |
| DaemonFC | But you don't want to own one. | Oct 16 16:35 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 16 16:35 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=512660&page=all | Oct 16 16:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.bobistheoilguy.com | Question and thoughts on Transmission flushes - Bob Is The Oil Guy [ http://ur1.ca/fwfm4 ] | Oct 16 16:50 |
| DaemonFC | "Chris B. - A co-worker of mine said I should not have flushed it and guarantees that it will fail soon now with in 4,000 more miles." | Oct 16 16:51 |
| DaemonFC | I had it flushed on the Taurus when it had 113,000 and I just sold it eight years later. | Oct 16 16:51 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 16 16:51 |
| DaemonFC | The flush is a "catch up" service when the last owner neglected the drain and fill procedure. | Oct 16 16:51 |
| DaemonFC | I specifically asked the guy at Daniels if they drop the pan and replace the filter and gasket. | Oct 16 16:54 |
| DaemonFC | Some shops use what's called a "T-Tech" machine. | Oct 16 16:54 |
| DaemonFC | You don't want that. | Oct 16 16:54 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: i think they do | Oct 16 16:54 |
| MinceR | i remember seeing a few pt cruisers | Oct 16 16:54 |
| DaemonFC | It makes the bay technician's job easier, but it doesn't clean the pan or change the gasket and filter. | Oct 16 16:54 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, An alcoholic ran into the side of my Lumina with a PT Cruiser. | Oct 16 16:55 |
| DaemonFC | Totaled the PT Cruiser. | Oct 16 16:55 |
| DaemonFC | His insurance company gave me a check for $2,000. I got some doors off a junkyard Lumina and installed them for about $200 | Oct 16 16:55 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 16 16:55 |
| DaemonFC | I had the estimate done at Pace Chevrolet so that the price would be astronomical, so they'd cut me a larger check. | Oct 16 16:56 |
| DaemonFC | Then I replaced the doors with junkyard parts myself. | Oct 16 16:56 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 16 16:56 |
| DaemonFC | I used the remaining $1,800 on a really nice vacation that summer. | Oct 16 16:56 |
| MinceR | :> | Oct 16 16:56 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, My mom says that transmissions are unreliable. I told her that hers already had three strikes against them. | Oct 16 17:00 |
| DaemonFC | She drives a GM vehicle, SHE drives the GM vehicle, and she never gets them serviced on schedule. | Oct 16 17:01 |
| DaemonFC | They might survive any one of the three, but not all three. | Oct 16 17:01 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 16 17:01 |
| DaemonFC | GM really makes some godawful crap. | Oct 16 17:02 |
| DaemonFC | Really really bad cars. | Oct 16 17:02 |
| DaemonFC | I will NEVER own one again. | Oct 16 17:02 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Chevrolet is both a brand and a warning label. | Oct 16 17:02 |
| DaemonFC | She has this terrible habit of shifting gears while the car is still moving. | Oct 16 17:03 |
| MinceR | there are many of those | Oct 16 17:03 |
| DaemonFC | It's a wonder that they last as long as they do with her driving. | Oct 16 17:03 |
| MinceR | hm, i regularly shift gears while the car is moving | Oct 16 17:03 |
| MinceR | i thought it was normal | Oct 16 17:03 |
| DaemonFC | It's an automatic and she shifts into REVERSE and PARK while the car is moving. | Oct 16 17:04 |
| MinceR | i do press the clutch while doing so, though :> | Oct 16 17:04 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 16 17:04 |
| MinceR | well, that's different :> | Oct 16 17:04 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, just a little. | Oct 16 17:04 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 16 17:04 |
| DaemonFC | I keep yelling at her for it, and she keeps doing it. | Oct 16 17:04 |
| DaemonFC | She's had so many transmission rebuilds on so many cars, I've lost count. | Oct 16 17:04 |
| DaemonFC | She's a really horrible driver. | Oct 16 17:04 |
| DaemonFC | You do not shift into Park or Reverse until the vehicle has come to a full and complete stop.... | Oct 16 17:05 |
| DaemonFC | Unless you just like paying for rebuilt transmissions. | Oct 16 17:05 |
| DaemonFC | I'm not sure if the last owner of my car did the drain and fill on the transmission. | Oct 16 17:07 |
| DaemonFC | The fluid was bright red, but I'm not taking any chances. | Oct 16 17:08 |
| DaemonFC | Especially not for an extra $30. | Oct 16 17:08 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Oct 16 17:08 |
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| iophk | http://www.chron.com/news/crime/article/NH-gas-clerk-fired-for-pulling-gun-on-robber-4900117.php | Oct 16 18:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.chron.com | NH gas clerk fired for pulling gun on robber - Houston Chronicle [ http://ur1.ca/fwg8f ] | Oct 16 18:45 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, My mom has punished that poor Impala. | Oct 16 18:55 |
| DaemonFC | She neglects all the maintenance and then replaced a lot of high dollar parts. | Oct 16 18:55 |
| DaemonFC | It's closing in on 300,000 miles, but she's put a lot of money into it that she wouldn't have had to if she got it serviced on time. | Oct 16 18:55 |
| DaemonFC | When she's done with it, it will be fit for crushing. | Oct 16 18:56 |
| iophk | http://opensource.com/life/13/10/interview-rudolf-streif-linux-cars | Oct 16 18:56 |
| iophk | "in-vehicle infotainment" ought to consist of a velcro strip where the tablet gets fastened | Oct 16 18:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | opensource.com | Interview with Rudolf Streif of The Linux Foundation | opensource.com [ http://ur1.ca/fwgaj ] | Oct 16 18:56 |
| DaemonFC | As far as I know, she's never even replaced the spark plugs. | Oct 16 18:57 |
| DaemonFC | That thing probably gets horrible gas mileage by this point. | Oct 16 18:57 |
| DaemonFC | My Crown Vic is actually getting the same mileage or better than the Taurus I got rid of. | Oct 16 18:57 |
| DaemonFC | I'm impressed. | Oct 16 18:57 |
| DaemonFC | That Taurus was in rough shape when I bought it. | Oct 16 18:58 |
| DaemonFC | It's probably why I got it cheap. | Oct 16 18:58 |
| DaemonFC | It was a fleet vehicle to begin with. | Oct 16 18:58 |
| DaemonFC | I was the third owner. | Oct 16 18:58 |
| MinceR | iophk: a USB charger connector wouldn't hurt either | Oct 16 18:59 |
| iophk | http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/10/arduino-creator-explains-why-open-source-matters-in-hardware-too/ | Oct 16 18:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | arstechnica.com | Arduino creator explains why open source matters in hardware, too | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/fwgb0 ] | Oct 16 18:59 |
| iophk | MinceR: it sometimes looks like they're less about adding benefit to the car and more about accelerating an already planned obsolescence | Oct 16 19:01 |
| MinceR | indeed | Oct 16 19:02 |
| iophk | the early attempts I saw a few years ago were simply wastes of space and distractions | Oct 16 19:03 |
| iophk | with the old UI you could use tactile feedback | Oct 16 19:03 |
| iophk | it was not necessary to take your eyes off the road to adjust a knob | Oct 16 19:04 |
| iophk | touch screens are 100% visual | Oct 16 19:04 |
| iophk | can't watch the road while you adjust a touch screen UI | Oct 16 19:04 |
| DaemonFC | I wonder when they'll be done with my car. | Oct 16 19:18 |
| *DaemonFC is glad he looked in the newspaper. It usually goes in the trash. | Oct 16 19:18 | |
| DaemonFC | Everyone in the county gets a free newspaper. | Oct 16 19:18 |
| DaemonFC | If I hadn't opened it, I would have missed that 10% off labor coupon. | Oct 16 19:19 |
| DaemonFC | That'll save me $13.60 off the spark plug and wire service by itself. | Oct 16 19:19 |
| DaemonFC | I'll probably save like $25 in the end. | Oct 16 19:20 |
| DaemonFC | Every bit helps :) | Oct 16 19:20 |
| DaemonFC | I had them write on the coolant overflow tank lid the date I had them flush that. | Oct 16 19:21 |
| DaemonFC | So I'll remember to do it again in three years. | Oct 16 19:21 |
| DaemonFC | It's always better to do the coolant flush near the end of the year, just before winter. All the shops start doing half price coolant flushes. | Oct 16 19:21 |
| DaemonFC | You save like $60. | Oct 16 19:22 |
| *DaemonFC is tempted to crank call Pace Chevrolet and tell them I'd like a Wallet Flush. | Oct 16 19:23 | |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Oct 16 19:23 |
| DaemonFC | They're so freaking expensive, it's unreal. | Oct 16 19:23 |
| DaemonFC | Take whatever Daniels charges, and add like 80%, and then you have the dealer service department cost. | Oct 16 19:24 |
| DaemonFC | It can be difficult to find a good independent garage though. | Oct 16 19:24 |
| DaemonFC | If you do, then stick to that garage. | Oct 16 19:24 |
| DaemonFC | Independents are kind of hit or miss. | Oct 16 19:25 |
| DaemonFC | Some of them hire idiots, and some are as good or better than the dealers at a much lower price. | Oct 16 19:25 |
| MinceR | 202027 < DaemonFC> Every bit helps :) | Oct 16 19:26 |
| MinceR | Every Little Helps? :> | Oct 16 19:26 |
| DaemonFC | exactly :) | Oct 16 19:28 |
| iophk | http://torrentfreak.com/mpaa-says-piracy-damages-cant-be-measured-131016/ | Oct 16 19:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | torrentfreak.com | MPAA Says Piracy Damages Can’t Be Measured | TorrentFreak [ http://ur1.ca/fwgg7 ] | Oct 16 19:29 |
| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer | Oct 16 19:56 |
| DaemonFC | 2 seconds ago | Oct 16 19:56 |
| DaemonFC | For that matter, Pace Chevrolet should have ditched their Chevrolet lot and kept selling Fords. I've *_never_* owned a Chevrolet that worked right. | Oct 16 19:56 |
| DaemonFC | Mom's Impala is nearing 300,000, but it cost her a boatload of money to get it there. For what it cost her to fix that darned thing, she could have gone to Kerns Ford in Celina and had a '96 Crown Vic with 74,000 on it. | Oct 16 19:56 |
| DaemonFC | I do not know what she sees in GM vehicles. I think they're all garbage. Her fuel gauge has that "Bounces up and down between F and E at random" problem that every GM vehicle since 1999 seems to develop at some point. | Oct 16 19:56 |
| DaemonFC | They said she would have to spend six hundred dollars to get the fuel gauge replaced, so she's been resetting the trip odometer and winging it. | Oct 16 19:56 |
| DaemonFC | She ran out of gas and asked her to me bring her some a few weeks ago. | Oct 16 19:56 |
| DaemonFC | My 1995 Ford Taurus didn't give me 10% of the problems as her stupid Chevrolet has given her. She even had to spend $800 on a new rack and pinion steering system. Really GM? REALLY!? | Oct 16 19:56 |
| DaemonFC | https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/p480x480/1377144_155043454705694_45789965_n.jpg | Oct 16 19:56 |
| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer | Oct 16 20:02 |
| DaemonFC | 2 seconds ago | Oct 16 20:02 |
| DaemonFC | Come to think of it, after I do the minor body work on this Crown Vic, I might have them install one of those push bars off a police cruiser. That should save the bumper if I ever hit something. | Oct 16 20:02 |
| DaemonFC | Does anyone know how much a junkyard would charge me for one of those? | Oct 16 20:02 |
| MinceR | :) | Oct 16 20:02 |
| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer | Oct 16 20:05 |
| DaemonFC | 2 seconds ago | Oct 16 20:05 |
| DaemonFC | The only downside to owning a Crown Vic is the temptation to actually get it up to 140. | Oct 16 20:05 |
| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer | Oct 16 20:08 |
| DaemonFC | 2 seconds ago | Oct 16 20:08 |
| DaemonFC | BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP Ka Alert! | Oct 16 20:08 |
| DaemonFC | *Not sure if cop or stupid "Your Speed" sign they keep dragging around town.* | Oct 16 20:08 |
| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer shared a link. | Oct 16 20:19 |
| DaemonFC | a few seconds ago | Oct 16 20:19 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5S6s5dZXNM | Oct 16 20:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.youtube.com | TRON Legacy - The Grid (Long Version) - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/fwgq3 ] | Oct 16 20:19 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 16 20:19 |
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| Sosumi | ever heard far cry 3 blood dragon ost? | Oct 16 20:37 |
| Sosumi | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXv8JVbqwao | Oct 16 20:37 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.youtube.com | Far Cry 3: Blood Dragon (OST) - Full Soundtrack - YouTube | Oct 16 20:37 |
| Sosumi | one word | Oct 16 20:37 |
| Sosumi | awesome | Oct 16 20:37 |
| Sosumi | http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/10/thanks-to-nsa-german-e-mail-providers-see-flood-of-new-customers/ | Oct 16 20:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | arstechnica.com | Thanks to NSA, German e-mail providers see flood of new customers | Ars Technica | Oct 16 20:42 |
| Sosumi | hey wasn't germany the one that got caught by some chaos computer group guy for state sponsored malware | Oct 16 20:43 |
| Sosumi | derptechnica strikes again | Oct 16 20:43 |
| Sosumi | mails in germany are as safe as they are in any other country | Oct 16 20:45 |
| Sosumi | even in portugal, the SIS (serviços de informação de segurança) has a special room at main distribution centers where they install their snooping gear | Oct 16 20:47 |
| Sosumi | http://www.smmp.pt/?p=24224 | Oct 16 20:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.smmp.pt | SMMP – Sindicato dos Magistrados do Ministério Público » Arquivo » 36 CIDADÃO SOB ESCUTA TODOS OS DIAS | Oct 16 20:49 |
| Sosumi | 36 citizens (randomly) put under surveillance every day | Oct 16 20:50 |
| Sosumi | so much for the NSA - GCHQ - Echelon hype | Oct 16 20:52 |
| Sosumi | when everyone is doing it | Oct 16 20:52 |
| Sosumi | welcome to the real world | Oct 16 20:53 |
| Sosumi | btw, after leaving intelligence services, or while still at it, why not become an information broker or insider trader? | Oct 16 20:54 |
| JimmyCarter | moral integrity and patriotism | Oct 16 20:55 |
| Sosumi | well that's what former SIS and SIED (serviços de informação estrategicas de defesa), they not only formed but keep filling the ranks of the Ongoing Investment Group | Oct 16 20:55 |
| Sosumi | lol @ patriotism | Oct 16 20:56 |
| Sosumi | the nation state is dead | Oct 16 20:56 |
| Sosumi | http://expresso.sapo.pt/ex-diretor-do-sied-a-caminho-da-ongoing=f618306 | Oct 16 20:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | expresso.sapo.pt | Ex diretor do SIED a caminho da Ongoing - Expresso.pt | Oct 16 20:56 |
| Sosumi | Former SIED director joining Ongoing | Oct 16 20:57 |
| Sosumi | and those revolving doors between SIS/SIED and Ongoing and the warrantless spying is nothing new | Oct 16 21:04 |
| Sosumi | it has been knows widelly since 2009 | Oct 16 21:04 |
| Sosumi | well before the subject was killed by the media | Oct 16 21:05 |
| Sosumi | and replaced with trivia | Oct 16 21:05 |
| Sosumi | as usual | Oct 16 21:05 |
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| sebsebseb | hi | Oct 16 21:06 |
| Sosumi | seb³ | Oct 16 21:07 |
| sebsebseb | Sosumi: uh meant too be making another slide show or two | Oct 16 21:08 |
| sebsebseb | Sosumi: I plan too speak at http://oggcamp.org this weekend | Oct 16 21:08 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | oggcamp.org | OggCamp | Oct 16 21:08 |
| sebsebseb | at least a five minutes Lightning Talk | Oct 16 21:08 |
| sebsebseb | maybe my own room depends | Oct 16 21:08 |
| Sosumi | nice | Oct 16 21:08 |
| sebsebseb | Sosumi: own room needs votes | Oct 16 21:08 |
| sebsebseb | voted in | Oct 16 21:08 |
| sebsebseb | need enough votes or no talk | Oct 16 21:09 |
| sebsebseb | also if the vote sytem goes down on me like last year when I need vvotes i guess not talk agian | Oct 16 21:09 |
| Sosumi | "Lightning Talks | Oct 16 21:10 |
| Sosumi | - This year the main stage will play host to a half-hour session of 5-minute lightning talks. Sign-up details will be given on the day." | Oct 16 21:10 |
| Sosumi | no voting yet | Oct 16 21:10 |
| Sosumi | but I wonte forget to vote on you, no worries | Oct 16 21:10 |
| Sosumi | seb³ for head of Mageia propaganda office | Oct 16 21:11 |
| Sosumi | sad that the event is also sponsored by Moronical | Oct 16 21:12 |
| Sosumi | ho and M$ has officially turned Mantle down | Oct 16 21:16 |
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| Sosumi | monopoly$oft trying to keep competition out of DX | Oct 16 21:27 |
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| DaemonFC | $400 | Oct 16 22:09 |
| DaemonFC | Car is running good though. | Oct 16 22:09 |
| Sosumi | hows the debt ceiling thing going? | Oct 16 22:40 |
| Sosumi | will blood run on the street? :) | Oct 16 22:41 |
| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer shared a link. | Oct 16 22:50 |
| DaemonFC | 5 hours ago | Oct 16 22:50 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2013/10/16/government-shutdown-debt-limit-congress-deal/2993181/ | Oct 16 22:50 |
| DaemonFC | The Republicans seem to have come to their senses at the last minute and start behaving like grown ups (for the moment). | Oct 16 22:50 |
| DaemonFC | For now, they won't get the Social Security and Medicare cuts and middle class tax hikes (Chained CPI) that they wanted. The only thing they got through is something that I actually agree with. Income verification for people wanting health insurance on the new exchanges. | Oct 16 22:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.usatoday.com | House agrees to move Senate debt ceiling deal [ http://ur1.ca/fwh2t ] | Oct 16 22:50 |
| Sosumi | sounds to me like a mix of wag the dog and the death by a thousand cuts | Oct 16 22:53 |
| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer | Oct 16 22:53 |
| DaemonFC | 2 seconds ago | Oct 16 22:53 |
| DaemonFC | The Weather Channel's website has really gotten annoying. Now they even have "Vista 8" style tiles. | Oct 16 22:53 |
| DaemonFC | *barf* | Oct 16 22:53 |
| DaemonFC | I need to switch my start page to Weather Underground. Last night, it was storming while the Weather Channel said "clear with 0% chance of rain". Fail. | Oct 16 22:53 |
| Sosumi | you know, 8 stands for infinity, literally, lol | Oct 16 22:55 |
| Sosumi | so vista 8 = infinite possibilities of disaster | Oct 16 22:55 |
| Sosumi | and now the new Vista 8.1 is the same thing | Oct 16 22:56 |
| Sosumi | because 8.1=8 | Oct 16 22:56 |
| Sosumi | math never lies | Oct 16 22:56 |
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| Sosumi | although, vista 8 is less than a disaster than OSX | Oct 16 23:06 |
| Sosumi | Launchpad? seriously... | Oct 16 23:06 |
| Sosumi | what M$ did with the tiles thing was merge the Dashboard and Launchpad | Oct 16 23:07 |
| Sosumi | basically, two jokes into a bigger joke | Oct 16 23:07 |
| Sosumi | but at least they made it funccional with live tiles and bloat | Oct 16 23:08 |
| Sosumi | that's why it's better (like in comparing poop) | Oct 16 23:08 |
| Sosumi | and I say it trully | Oct 16 23:10 |
| Sosumi | I don't like KDE | Oct 16 23:10 |
| Sosumi | but on my opinion it's the best GUI i've used | Oct 16 23:11 |
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| Sosumi | enlightned ranks there too, | Oct 16 23:11 |
| Sosumi | also very nice to use | Oct 16 23:11 |
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| Sosumi | http://news.firedoglake.com/2013/09/13/saudis-sending-deathrow-prisoners-to-fight-with-rebels-in-syria/ | Oct 16 23:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | news.firedoglake.com | Saudis Sending Death Row Prisoners To Fight With Rebels In Syria | FDL News Desk [ http://ur1.ca/fwh7b ] | Oct 16 23:12 |
| Sosumi | reality distorcion field -> got to love those peace loving middle eastern democracies | Oct 16 23:13 |
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| Sosumi | http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-10-16/keith-alexander-nsa-head-stepping-down | Oct 16 23:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.zerohedge.com | Keith Alexander, NSA Head, Stepping Down | Zero Hedge [ http://ur1.ca/fwh7y ] | Oct 16 23:15 |
| Sosumi | he's going to spend the rest of is life as a "cutter", like in the 2004 film "The Final Cut" | Oct 16 23:16 |
| Sosumi | http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0364343/ | Oct 16 23:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.imdb.com | The Final Cut (2004) - IMDb | Oct 16 23:16 |
| MinceR | gn | Oct 16 23:21 |
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| DaemonFC | I'm going to try to get the body parts I need for my car from a junkyard. | Oct 17 00:44 |
| DaemonFC | Hopefully I can find a '96 Crown Victoria that hasn't had any front end damage that's the same color. | Oct 17 00:44 |
| DaemonFC | If I can do that, I won't need to paint anything. | Oct 17 00:45 |
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| iophk | http://www.zdnet.com/samba-4-1-brings-linux-desktop-and-mac-files-from-windows-8-server-2012-7000021945/ | Oct 17 07:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.zdnet.com | Samba 4.1 brings Linux desktop and Mac files from Windows 8, Server 2012 | ZDNet [ http://ur1.ca/fwjjx ] | Oct 17 07:53 |
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| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3178982 | Oct 17 09:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: NSA Has Spurred Renewed Interest In Thorough Security Audits Of Popular 'Secure' Software http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20131015/10040524884/nsa-has-spurred-renewed-interest-thorough-security-audits-popular-secure-software.shtml #truecrypt | Oct 17 09:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.techdirt.com | NSA Has Spurred Renewed Interest In Thorough Security Audits Of Popular 'Secure' Software | Techdirt [ http://ur1.ca/fwfxb ] | Oct 17 09:17 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "While I don't think TrueCrypt has been OSI-certified, I'm pretty sure the source is available and many of objections by the distro maintainers have been alleviated." | Oct 17 09:17 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | " | Oct 17 09:21 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | The problem is that people think they can run free software on top of non free software like Windows or OSX. That's transparently foolish, but people think they can somehow hide things from an OS that's logging their keystrokes and everything else they do. | Oct 17 09:21 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | The same problems happen when you put non free software, like Nvidia drivers or Flash, on top of GNU/Linux. Regardless of what the owners say, non free software always has the power to betray the user. | Oct 17 09:21 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Techdirt and most of the tech press do not do enough to convince people this is true. This article leaves the reader with the impression that precompiled binaries for Windows can somehow be audited and then have some privacy on Windows. The tech press in general has failed badly to understand what's really at stake with software freedom. Most of it is infiltrated and subverted by Microsoft and other non free software companies | Oct 17 09:21 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | that won't allow them to say that non free software is immoral and impossible to trust or verify. | Oct 17 09:21 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | " | Oct 17 09:21 |
| iophk | Also the drivers have kernel-level access. | Oct 17 09:21 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | I agree with Will, except for the accusation of sorts against TechDirt, which should generally know better about FOSS (Mike Masnick usually does better than that and I had noticed his omission also). | Oct 17 09:22 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | " | Oct 17 09:22 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Yes, I agree with you in that regard. Though I would add that if we take it to the extreme, even open-source binaries can't be trusted either as it's entirely possible to replace a file in transit. | Oct 17 09:22 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | If we let this logic run its course everyone should be using 100% GPL code that they compile themselves. The problem is, that's a reality in terms of technical feasibility for very, very few people in this world. | Oct 17 09:22 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | " | Oct 17 09:22 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | One of our clients in the UK govt. require us to have a formal build process with much auditing even for FOSS, for this very reason. | Oct 17 09:23 |
| brendyn | It doesn't need to be GPL? | Oct 17 09:23 |
| iophk | The binaries can be replaced in transit if they are not signed. AFAIK RPM and APT keep checksums and then the register of checksums is PGP signed. | Oct 17 09:23 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | *requires | Oct 17 09:23 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3172412 | Oct 17 09:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Techrights Was Right About Skype All Along http://techrights.org/2013/10/14/techrights-on-skype/ #skype #privacy | Oct 17 09:24 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "Dr. Roy. I like your site. Lot of interesting reading. But you really need to give it a facelift , the layout looks awful. You have this transparent right margin going straight through the live news and pages boxes. I know it is all about content but... :-)" | Oct 17 09:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techrights.org | Techrights Was Right About Skype All Along | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/fwjye ] | Oct 17 09:24 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | other people mentioned the same layout issue. It has been like this for nearly 7 years - layout has been preserved for consistency, unlikely to change in the near future but might | Oct 17 09:25 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/3181229 | Oct 17 09:33 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.joindiaspora.com | ### #Golf ball hitting #steel at 150mph, recorded at 70 000fps [ http://ur1.ca/fwjzl ] | Oct 17 09:33 |
| MinceR | r4wr | Oct 17 09:42 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3178996 | Oct 17 09:45 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Just because one way or another the NSA's cybercriminals can get your data doesn't justify giving up and making it easier for them. | Oct 17 09:45 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "I have so many friends, friends who love their Android phones and their Kindle Fires, who constantly respond to continuing NSA revelations with "they're going to get it no matter what," "I have nothing to hide," etc. There's a lot of defeatists out there right now, unfortunately." | Oct 17 09:45 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Defeatists are a real issue, but worse are those who ridicule those who aren;t. | Oct 17 09:45 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3178718 | Oct 17 09:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Steve Ballmer's slogan is similar to that of another (think Godwin Law), but then again, Microsoft is saving the world, in its own mind. | Oct 17 09:47 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "It was my impression that they would soon disappear, and that was in 1998. Why they still exist is a mystery to me." | Oct 17 09:47 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | In 1998 microsoft had massive losses it had hidden, but it continued to serve NSA by harvesting data on the whole world. | Oct 17 09:47 |
| MinceR | saving the world from itself? that would be nice, if a little overdue | Oct 17 09:48 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3178538 | Oct 17 09:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Linux only needs one 'killer' game to explode, says Battlefield director http://www.polygon.com/2013/10/12/4826190/linux-only-needs-one-killer-game-to-explode-says-battlefield-director #gnu #linux #game #killerapp | Oct 17 09:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.polygon.com | Linux only needs one 'killer' game to explode, says Battlefield director | Polygon [ http://ur1.ca/fwk21 ] | Oct 17 09:48 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "And this has been true for the last 15 years." | Oct 17 09:48 |
| iophk | http://mrpogson.com/2013/10/16/laptop-computers-at-walmart-now-include-lots-of-linux/ | Oct 17 09:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | mrpogson.com | Laptop Computers At Walmart Now Include Lots Of */Linux | Robert Pogson [ http://ur1.ca/fwk39 ] | Oct 17 09:54 |
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| schestowitz_bed2 | http://www.yourfuturejob.com/job/linux-technical-expert-%E2%80%93-linux-format-fp00417/ http://tuxradar.com/content/linux-format-hiring | Oct 17 10:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.yourfuturejob.com | Linux Technical Expert – Linux Format | Job vacancy, posted: October 7, 2013 | Future Publishing Jobs [ http://ur1.ca/fwk7z ] | Oct 17 10:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | tuxradar.com | Linux Format is hiring | TuxRadar Linux [ http://ur1.ca/fwk80 ] | Oct 17 10:16 |
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| MinceR | http://static.mellbimbo.eu/files/2013/10/17/acid_picdump_97.jpg | Oct 17 12:39 |
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| schestowitz_bed2 | singling out android for security FUD | Oct 17 13:11 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | http://www.av-test.org/en/about-the-institute/partners/ | Oct 17 13:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.av-test.org | AV-TEST - The Independent IT-Security Institute: Partners [ http://ur1.ca/fwl5s ] | Oct 17 13:11 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | http://www.pcworld.com/article/2052810/security-to-go-three-tips-to-keep-your-mobile-data-safe.html | Oct 17 13:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.pcworld.com | Security to go: Three tips to keep your mobile data safe | PCWorld [ http://ur1.ca/fwl5t ] | Oct 17 13:11 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/3182128 | Oct 17 13:13 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.joindiaspora.com | The United States... [ http://ur1.ca/fwl6h ] | Oct 17 13:13 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://www.joindiaspora.com/p/3182128 | Oct 17 13:13 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.joindiaspora.com | The United States... | Oct 17 13:13 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | More FUD http://www.itworld.com/open-source/378831/will-android-survive-chaos-google-samsung-and-htc | Oct 17 13:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.itworld.com | Will Android survive the chaos of Google, Samsung and HTC? | ITworld [ http://ur1.ca/fwl6y ] | Oct 17 13:17 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | along the same lines as yesterday's | Oct 17 13:17 |
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| Sosumi | well, gnu/linux needs a killer app | Oct 17 14:50 |
| Sosumi | why not release BF4 for it then? | Oct 17 14:51 |
| Sosumi | DICE and EA = joke | Oct 17 14:51 |
| Sosumi | http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/10/windows-8-1-what-a-difference-a-year-makes/ | Oct 17 14:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | arstechnica.com | Windows 8.1: What a difference a year makes | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/fwljn ] | Oct 17 14:53 |
| Sosumi | peter bright's review, sponsored by M$ | Oct 17 14:54 |
| Sosumi | because damm, no words to describe the amount of failure vista is | Oct 17 14:54 |
| Sosumi | and the guy praises the thing | Oct 17 14:54 |
| Sosumi | it's a disaster, M$ should just scrap the entire metro interface | Oct 17 14:55 |
| Sosumi | which is just two failures (dashboard and launchpad) merged together | Oct 17 14:55 |
| Sosumi | http://www.pcworld.com/article/2055640/apples-claim-of-unbreakable-imessage-encryption-basically-lies-researchers-say.html | Oct 17 15:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.macworld.com | Researchers challenge Apple's claim of unbreakable iMessage encryption | Macworld [ http://ur1.ca/fwlna ] | Oct 17 15:23 |
| iophk | bright and other shills seem to be in every publication now. | Oct 17 15:36 |
| iophk | Some have several at the same time. | Oct 17 15:36 |
| iophk | Some have many, like the BBC | Oct 17 15:36 |
| iophk | Even The Guardian has at least one. | Oct 17 15:40 |
| Sosumi | I'm surprised he didn't write 20 pages+ review | Oct 17 15:53 |
| Sosumi | like they do for OSX reviews | Oct 17 15:53 |
| iophk | http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2301281/canonical-steals-windows-81s-thunder-with-ubuntu-1310-release | Oct 17 15:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.theinquirer.net | Canonical steals Windows 8.1's thunder with Ubuntu 13.10 release- The Inquirer [ http://ur1.ca/fwlr5 ] | Oct 17 15:55 |
| iophk | "Canonical is touting the Ubuntu 13.10 release as the "first step to mobile [and] PC convergence"" | Oct 17 15:56 |
| iophk | IIRC it still has the spyware issue by default. | Oct 17 15:56 |
| iophk | Xubuntu, Lubuntu, and Kubuntu don't | Oct 17 15:56 |
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| Sosumi | yay moronical | Oct 17 16:04 |
| Sosumi | praising M$ and supporting mono | Oct 17 16:05 |
| Sosumi | and ofc, sending searches by default to amazon | Oct 17 16:05 |
| MinceR | also praising crApple | Oct 17 16:06 |
| MinceR | and attacking other GNU/Linux distributions | Oct 17 16:06 |
| MinceR | and demanding "respect" for all this | Oct 17 16:06 |
| Sosumi | yep | Oct 17 16:10 |
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| Sosumi | http://www.cinemablend.com/games/crytek-admits-microsoft-had-rewrite-xbox-one-code-run-software-59912.html | Oct 17 16:26 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.cinemablend.com | Crytek Admits Microsoft Had To Rewrite Xbox One Code To Run Software [ http://ur1.ca/fwlt7 ] | Oct 17 16:26 |
| Sosumi | also, ps4 running BF4 at 900p, xbone at 700p | Oct 17 16:27 |
| Sosumi | hopefully m$ gaming division finally dies this year | Oct 17 16:27 |
| Sosumi | I mean, this gen | Oct 17 16:27 |
| iophk | it has been a money loser for a long time, they'll keep pouring money into it just to try to hurt Nintendo and Sony. | Oct 17 16:30 |
| iophk | Ouya might hurt them, too. | Oct 17 16:30 |
| iophk | Same with Steambox. | Oct 17 16:31 |
| iophk | The market is getting even more competitive. | Oct 17 16:31 |
| Sosumi | ouya was kind of a failure | Oct 17 16:31 |
| iophk | not yet | Oct 17 16:31 |
| Sosumi | and nintendo is failing with their game gear | Oct 17 16:32 |
| Sosumi | I mean wii u | Oct 17 16:32 |
| iophk | yeah | Oct 17 16:32 |
| iophk | The Wii is still doing ok though last I heard. | Oct 17 16:32 |
| Sosumi | yeah kind of, among the casual ppl | Oct 17 16:33 |
| Sosumi | and children | Oct 17 16:33 |
| iophk | Steam will cut into that part of the market. | Oct 17 16:34 |
| iophk | There's no place for the xbone, the high end is taken and the low end is taken and the middle is not big | Oct 17 16:34 |
| iophk | then there are all the drawbacks that scare away buyers | Oct 17 16:34 |
| iophk | Too bad Sony screwed so many people over badly with the rootkit and the OtherOS fiasco. | Oct 17 16:35 |
| Sosumi | yep, I really hope the steambox actually succeedes | Oct 17 16:35 |
| iophk | Steambox can be a good low-end desktop for mail and surfing. | Oct 17 16:35 |
| Sosumi | although outside the console ppl, pc gaming as never been stronger | Oct 17 16:36 |
| Sosumi | as it is now | Oct 17 16:36 |
| iophk | As more go back to OpenGL that could change. | Oct 17 16:36 |
| iophk | Many gamers only what what is fastest. | Oct 17 16:36 |
| Sosumi | fastest and easiest to get the games running | Oct 17 16:37 |
| Sosumi | that's why consoles are usually the go to | Oct 17 16:37 |
| iophk | Can't beat the graphical package managers in Linux | Oct 17 16:37 |
| iophk | those are very easy. | Oct 17 16:37 |
| Sosumi | but PC gaming, you know those ppl that build their systems, is stronger than ever | Oct 17 16:37 |
| Sosumi | yeah, well, let's hope nvidia doesn't screw things more than they already did | Oct 17 16:38 |
| iophk | They're still not out of the woods. | Oct 17 16:38 |
| iophk | old - http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/09/nvidia-seeks-peace-with-linux-pledges-help-on-open-source-driver/ | Oct 17 16:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | arstechnica.com | Nvidia seeks peace with Linux, pledges help on open source driver (Updated) | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/fwlug ] | Oct 17 16:40 |
| Sosumi | help... | Oct 17 16:40 |
| Sosumi | and then they cripple their linux driver to keep parity with winblows | Oct 17 16:40 |
| iophk | I'm surprised that with the nsa revelations there is not more outrage about the binary-only, proprietary blobs. You can hide a lot of stuff in a few megs. | Oct 17 16:40 |
| Sosumi | no oficial support for cuda on latest releases | Oct 17 16:41 |
| Sosumi | no one cares about the NSA | Oct 17 16:41 |
| iophk | https://matt.ucc.asn.au/dropbear/dropbear.html | Oct 17 16:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | matt.ucc.asn.au | Dropbear SSH [ http://ur1.ca/fwluh ] | Oct 17 16:41 |
| iophk | "Dropbear can compile to a 110kB statically linked" | Oct 17 16:41 |
| Sosumi | and if I mention it I easily get confronted with the typical dr. Goebbels kind of response | Oct 17 16:42 |
| Sosumi | remember, if you have nothing to hide you also have nothing to fear | Oct 17 16:48 |
| Sosumi | sheeple :( | Oct 17 16:49 |
| iophk | http://chronicle.com/article/Why-Privacy-Matters-Even-if/127461/ | Oct 17 16:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Couldn't resolve host 'chronicle.com' ( status 0 @ http://chronicle.com/article/Why-Privacy-Matters-Even-if/127461/ ) | Oct 17 16:50 |
| iophk | http://www.infoworld.com/t/networking/your-next-network-operating-system-linux-228846 | Oct 17 17:02 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.infoworld.com | Your next network operating system is Linux | Networking - InfoWorld [ http://ur1.ca/fwlvz ] | Oct 17 17:02 |
| iophk | http://www.nanaimodailynews.com/business/former-nokia-ceo-ollila-concedes-mistakes-after-piloting-finnish-company-to-global-stature-1.662482 | Oct 17 17:52 |
| iophk | no comment there about the sell out to M$ | Oct 17 17:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.nanaimodailynews.com | Former Nokia CEO Ollila concedes mistakes after piloting Finnish company to global stature - Business - Nanaimo Daily News [ http://ur1.ca/fwm03 ] | Oct 17 17:52 |
| iophk | a bit of revisionism about Elop, claiming that he wasn't the trojan horse that he turned out to be | Oct 17 17:53 |
| iophk | The summary misleads a little about the purchase which does not include the purchase of patents, only the lease of them | Oct 17 17:54 |
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| Sosumi | http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/10/bittorrent-site-isohunt-will-shut-down-pay-mpaa-110-million/ | Oct 17 19:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | arstechnica.com | BitTorrent site IsoHunt will shut down, pay MPAA $110 million | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/fwmdg ] | Oct 17 19:43 |
| Sosumi | :( | Oct 17 19:43 |
| MinceR | :( | Oct 17 19:43 |
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| sebsebseb | hi ThistleWeb | Oct 17 21:52 |
| ThistleWeb | o/ | Oct 17 21:53 |
| sebsebseb | I am planning on doing a talk | Oct 17 21:54 |
| sebsebseb | at OGG Camp this weekend :) | Oct 17 21:54 |
| sebsebseb | ,but still need to make some slides in that case | Oct 17 21:54 |
| sebsebseb | I am thinking show them Mageia 2 with the control centre, on the other hand it's end of life in abut a month, but that first, then got a intresetingfeature to show in the development version that looks like three as well since new artwork not implemented yet | Oct 17 21:55 |
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| MinceR | gn | Oct 17 22:27 |
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| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/390956393605656576 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/390956531501789184 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/390957245510721536 | Oct 17 22:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Ars Technica has its #Microsoft marketer Peter Bright paste an advert for #vista8 Rev 2 http://t.co/VlZ4sYNlEV | Oct 17 22:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> arstechnica.com | Windows 8.1: What a difference a year makes | Ars Technica | Oct 17 22:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Researchers challenge Apple's claim of 'unbreakable' iMessage encryption http://t.co/lqcsmn2zAP if it's Apple, it's insecure | Oct 17 22:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.macworld.com | Researchers challenge Apple's claim of unbreakable iMessage encryption | Macworld | Oct 17 22:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Your next network operating system is Linux http://t.co/Fu3TvDqczt #linux | Oct 17 22:49 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3182109 | Oct 17 22:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Auditing #truecrypt would be like auditing #diebold machines. Can't if you don't see the source and control the build http://arstechnica.com/security/2013/10/new-effort-to-fully-audit-truecrypt-raises-over-16000-in-a-few-short-weeks/ | Oct 17 22:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> arstechnica.com | New effort to fully audit TrueCrypt raises $16,000+ in a few short weeks | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/fwn20 ] | Oct 17 22:50 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "Indeed. No such thing as an audit unless the binaries audited are the source audited, and audited publicly." | Oct 17 22:50 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3182171 | Oct 17 22:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Cryptographer Adi Shamir Prevented from Attending NSA History Conference | Oct 17 22:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> blogs.fas.org | Cryptographer Adi Shamir Prevented from Attending NSA History Conference - Secrecy News [ http://ur1.ca/fwn22 ] | Oct 17 22:51 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "I could see video conferencing very beneficial in these kinds of situations." | Oct 17 22:51 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "^ that is what I was thinking to myself the other day about free software in general how can you know if the compiled program actually is the same as the source (unless you compile it yourself ofc)" | Oct 17 22:51 |
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| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer | Oct 18 01:02 |
| DaemonFC | about a minute ago · Edited | Oct 18 01:02 |
| DaemonFC | I told the guy at Pearson's about how hard it is to find a vehicle on Craiglist that isn't crap. I told him that one listing which really stuck in my mind was the one where a guy with a 2004 Cadillac with 175,000 miles on it wanted $8,000. So I e-mailed him and asked him why he wanted $8,000. He replied something to the effect of "The chameleon green metallic paint job cost me $6,000 and then there' | Oct 18 01:02 |
| DaemonFC | s the chrome hood ornament of a naked woman.". | Oct 18 01:02 |
| DaemonFC | Gee, isn't that something all of us would be proud to own? | Oct 18 01:02 |
| DaemonFC | Even if the paint job is good and the color isn't revolting (chameleon green?), you should never expect that it will make the resale value of the car equal to FMV + the entire cost of the paint job ($6,000? You can do showroom quality for about $3,500.). At most, you're looking at a $500-$800 addition to the FMV of the car. You should never do restoration work assuming that you'll come out ahead whe | Oct 18 01:02 |
| DaemonFC | n you go to sell it (at least until it's old enough to be considered a classic). You should do it because you like your car, and you want to be proud of what you have. | Oct 18 01:02 |
| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer shared a link. | Oct 18 01:22 |
| DaemonFC | a few seconds ago | Oct 18 01:22 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.google.com/patents/US8254902 | Oct 18 01:22 |
| DaemonFC | Apple patents a way for the police to turn off your cell phone camera while they beat you and your friends. | Oct 18 01:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.google.com | Patent US8254902 - Apparatus and methods for enforcement of policies upon a wireless device - Google Patents | Oct 18 01:22 |
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| lirodon | Microsoft is using petty tactics to keep users in its secure boot trap | Oct 18 04:38 |
| lirodon | by branding the screens of people who dare disable secure boot on 8.1 http://t.co/X1upAPnc5V | Oct 18 04:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Nickedynick: Upgrade to Windows 8.1 today, and get a free (albeit hugely obnoxious) watermark on your desktop! http://t.co/X1upAPnc5V | Oct 18 04:40 |
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| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3183647 | Oct 18 08:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Empire Under Obama: Barack Obama's Global Terror Campaign http://truth-out.org/news/item/19466-empire-under-obama-barack-obamas-global-terror-campaign a war on terror can be terror sometimes | Oct 18 08:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> truth-out.org | Empire Under Obama: Barack Obama's Global Terror Campaign [ http://ur1.ca/fwomi ] | Oct 18 08:19 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | http://diydrones.com/profiles/blogs/happy-droneoween | Oct 18 08:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | diydrones.com | Happy Droneoween! - DIY Drones [ http://ur1.ca/fwomj ] | Oct 18 08:19 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3178982 | Oct 18 08:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: NSA Has Spurred Renewed Interest In Thorough Security Audits Of Popular 'Secure' Software http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20131015/10040524884/nsa-has-spurred-renewed-interest-thorough-security-audits-popular-secure-software.shtml #truecrypt | Oct 18 08:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.techdirt.com | NSA Has Spurred Renewed Interest In Thorough Security Audits Of Popular 'Secure' Software | Techdirt [ http://ur1.ca/fwfxb ] | Oct 18 08:19 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "Divides we are helpless, Jesse. Community run distributions binaries are as good as we can get. No one has the time or ability to inspect everything, freedom must be a community effort. This is why software must have all four software freedoms." | Oct 18 08:19 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3182109 | Oct 18 08:19 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "@Paul: You can't. See this short exchange on Bruce Schneider's blog." | Oct 18 08:20 |
| MinceR | Schneier | Oct 18 08:59 |
| MinceR | geekings | Oct 18 09:05 |
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| iophk | https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2013/10/nsa_harvesting.html | Oct 18 11:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.schneier.com | Schneier on Security: NSA Harvesting Contact Lists [ http://ur1.ca/fwp5t ] | Oct 18 11:46 |
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| iophk | http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/18/world/snowden-says-he-took-no-secret-files-to-russia.html | Oct 18 13:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | myaccount.nytimes.com | Log In - The New York Times [ http://ur1.ca/fwpj4 ] | Oct 18 13:59 |
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| XFaCE | schestowitz: pharma patent extension in Canada as part of CETA: http://www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/6975/125/ | Oct 18 16:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.michaelgeist.ca | Michael Geist - CETA Reached "In Principle", Part Four: Pharma Gets Patent Extension Despite Declining R&D in Canada [ http://ur1.ca/fwpwu ] | Oct 18 16:06 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | thans | Oct 18 16:06 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | tahnks | Oct 18 16:06 |
| XFaCE | np | Oct 18 16:07 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz_bed2: other articles on the agreement: http://www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/6972/125/ http://www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/6973/125/ http://www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/6974/125/ | Oct 18 16:07 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.michaelgeist.ca | Michael Geist - Canada - EU Trade Agreement Reached "In Principle", Part One: Now Release the Text [ http://ur1.ca/fwpwx ] | Oct 18 16:07 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.michaelgeist.ca | Michael Geist - Canada - EU Trade Agreement Reached "In Principle", Part Two: The Intellectual Property Provisions [ http://ur1.ca/fwpwy ] | Oct 18 16:07 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.michaelgeist.ca | Michael Geist - CETA Reached "In Principle", Part Three: Meaningless Claims on Telecom & E-commerce [ http://ur1.ca/fwpwz ] | Oct 18 16:07 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz_bed2: and wouldn't you know, this was another opaque process | Oct 18 16:08 |
| Sosumi | http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-10-17/janet-yellen-exposed-truth-behind-myth-0 | Oct 18 16:08 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.zerohedge.com | Janet Yellen Exposed - The Truth Behind The Myth | Zero Hedge [ http://ur1.ca/fwpx5 ] | Oct 18 16:08 |
| Sosumi | she's Bilbo Bagins distant cousin | Oct 18 16:09 |
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| lirodon | so apparently Microsoft is now using a new method to shove secure boot down our throats | Oct 18 16:29 |
| lirodon | anyone who upgrades to Windows 8.1 gets shamed by a desktop watermark if they have secure boot capable hardware (heck, some people who can't use it are getting it too) but have it disabled | Oct 18 16:31 |
| MinceR | indeed | Oct 18 16:33 |
| MinceR | a colleague got it too | Oct 18 16:33 |
| lirodon | yeah, its not configured properly. They don't want you to run anything else | Oct 18 16:34 |
| XFaCE | http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dn441535.aspx | Oct 18 16:38 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | technet.microsoft.com | "Secure Boot isn't configured correctly" watermark on the desktop [ http://ur1.ca/fwq0i ] | Oct 18 16:38 |
| XFaCE | no way to turn it off officially either | Oct 18 16:38 |
| XFaCE | not surprised | Oct 18 16:38 |
| MinceR | oh, i know a way | Oct 18 16:41 |
| MinceR | http://crunchbang.org/ | Oct 18 16:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | crunchbang.org | CrunchBang - a nimble Openbox Linux Distro | Oct 18 16:41 |
| MinceR | ;) | Oct 18 16:41 |
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| Sosumi | M$ lol | Oct 18 16:49 |
| MinceR | http://blogs.hbr.org/2013/10/how-dilbert-practically-wrote-itself/ | Oct 18 16:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | blogs.hbr.org | How "Dilbert" Practically Wrote Itself - Meghan Ennes - Harvard Business Review [ http://ur1.ca/fwq22 ] | Oct 18 16:52 |
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| lirodon | XFaCE: they're treating it like a "problem" to shamelessly tell people to turn it back on | Oct 18 17:01 |
| XFaCE | lirodon: looks like a new build may fix this "bug" | Oct 18 17:01 |
| lirodon | XFaCE: I heard the GA Rollup was supposed to fix it | Oct 18 17:01 |
| lirodon | Personally, if I wanted to treat that as a problem, I'd put it as an Action Center notification | Oct 18 17:02 |
| lirodon | i.e. "Your computer supports UEFI secure boot, but it is not enabled. Enable it in your UEFI firmware settings to improve system security // Turn off messages about secure boot" | Oct 18 17:02 |
| MinceR | it's a problem for them | Oct 18 17:04 |
| MinceR | your pc isn't locked into their crap | Oct 18 17:04 |
| lirodon | 8.1 also tries to force you into using a Microsoft Account sign-in by using disturbing dark patterns | Oct 18 18:14 |
| lirodon | and sends all search data to Bing regardless of type | Oct 18 18:14 |
| Sosumi | all of them? | Oct 18 18:27 |
| Sosumi | not even crApple does that with Spotlight | Oct 18 18:28 |
| lirodon | http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9241524/Steven_J._Vaughan_Nichols_Microsoft_Bing_bang_bungles_local_search?ref=1 | Oct 18 19:08 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.computerworld.com | Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols: Microsoft Bing-bang-bungles local search - Computerworld [ http://ur1.ca/fwqd9 ] | Oct 18 19:08 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3183656 | Oct 18 19:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Ars Technica has its #Microsoft marketer Peter Bright paste an advert for #vista8 Rev 2 http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/10/windows-8-1-what-a-difference-a-year-makes/ | Oct 18 19:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> arstechnica.com | Windows 8.1: What a difference a year makes | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/fwljn ] | Oct 18 19:59 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "Microsoft hates everyone." | Oct 18 19:59 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "Lol yes .... M$ only love $ ^^ Well there is a stupid but funny translation (as a joke) of "Windows from Microsoft by Bill Gates" in french : "Fenêtres de Minidou(x) par Guillaume Portail" And Minidou (without 'x') in France is minidou washing liquid" | Oct 18 19:59 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "They hate themselves too. Everyone is a pawn to Bill Gates. One of the co founders left when he overheard Gates and another founder conspiring to rob his family if he died." | Oct 18 20:00 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3185564 | Oct 18 20:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: When Progress is Outlawed | Oct 18 20:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techrights.org | When Progress is Outlawed | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/fwqji ] | Oct 18 20:05 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "I think things are so shrill because the usual method of control by jailing and economically ruining people has run into a fundamental limit. Information is spreading faster than the rich and powerful can eliminate people. There's some hope in that." | Oct 18 20:05 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3184734 | Oct 18 20:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: SparkFun Ponders Women in STEM Fields http://hackaday.com/2013/10/17/sparkfun-ponders-women-in-stem-fields/ anomaly not found much in the East | Oct 18 20:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> hackaday.com | SparkFun Ponders Women in STEM Fields [ http://ur1.ca/fwqjk ] | Oct 18 20:06 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "There was an interesting interview on NPR the other day about the dismal overall job market in the US. There are about 400,000 STEM graduates each year for about 200,000 new jobs. A country that has offshored most of it's manufacturing hasThere was an interesting interview on NPR the other day about the dismal overall job market in the US. There are about 400,000 STEM graduates each year for about 200,000 new jobs. A country that | Oct 18 20:06 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | has offshored most of it's manufacturing has little need for scientists and engineers. I wonder how many of the remaining jobs are weapons related." little need for scientists and engineers. I wonder how many of the remaining jobs are weapons related. | Oct 18 20:06 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | " | Oct 18 20:11 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > Hi Roy, | Oct 18 20:11 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > | Oct 18 20:11 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > CMSWire is assembling a discussion point article that tackles the | Oct 18 20:11 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > question: /Will the decision by W3C to include encrypted media | Oct 18 20:11 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > extensions <http://www.w3.org/TR/encrypted-media/> into the HTML5.1 | Oct 18 20:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.w3.org | Encrypted Media Extensions | Oct 18 20:11 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > standard have a positive or negative effect on web experiences?/ | Oct 18 20:11 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > / | Oct 18 20:11 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > / | Oct 18 20:11 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > Below is a previous Discussion Point for reference: | Oct 18 20:11 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > / | Oct 18 20:11 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > / | Oct 18 20:11 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > Discussion Point: Records Management Influenced by Cloud, Collaboration | Oct 18 20:11 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > Technologies | Oct 18 20:11 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > <http://www.cmswire.com/cms/information-management/discussion-point-records-management-influenced-by-cloud-collaboration-technologies-021518.php>/ | Oct 18 20:11 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > / | Oct 18 20:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.cmswire.com | Discussion Point: Records Management Influenced by Cloud, Collaboration Technologies [ http://ur1.ca/fwqky ] | Oct 18 20:11 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > | Oct 18 20:11 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > Would you be interested in providing your thoughts on this question? The | Oct 18 20:11 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > response should be roughly 3-4 paragraphs. We will be including a short | Oct 18 20:11 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > bio and photo in the article. | Oct 18 20:11 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > | Oct 18 20:12 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > Please let me know if you would like to contribute. We'd like to have | Oct 18 20:12 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > responses in by October 22nd. | Oct 18 20:12 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | I would be happy to write a piece if it's guaranteed publication. | Oct 18 20:12 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | " | Oct 18 20:12 |
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| Sosumi | so since M$ is collecting info on everyone for advertising starting vista 8.1 | Oct 18 20:30 |
| Sosumi | that means vista 8.1 is free? | Oct 18 20:30 |
| Sosumi | just like the ObamaPhone | Oct 18 20:30 |
| Sosumi | M$ is like meth, not even once | Oct 18 20:31 |
| MinceR | no, it would be too expensive even if it was gratis | Oct 18 20:32 |
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| Sosumi | so I guess I'll no longer be able to use global search to find the F35 drawings | Oct 18 20:51 |
| Sosumi | or the F22 flight manuals | Oct 18 20:51 |
| Sosumi | no my improvised explovives and gerrilla warfare manuals | Oct 18 20:51 |
| Sosumi | :) | Oct 18 20:51 |
| Sosumi | or I'll get someone knocking at my door | Oct 18 20:52 |
| MinceR | plus it's unlikely to work reliably anyway | Oct 18 20:55 |
| Sosumi | who knows :) | Oct 18 21:03 |
| Sosumi | but for certain, I don't want to test it | Oct 18 21:03 |
| JimmyCarter | some people like word excel and paint | Oct 18 21:04 |
| Sosumi | and IE | Oct 18 21:04 |
| JimmyCarter | mostly just poor indoctrinated old dogs | Oct 18 21:04 |
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| MinceR | some people are idiots | Oct 18 21:09 |
| MinceR | also, even excel got much worse lately | Oct 18 21:09 |
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| Sosumi | you mean this excel? | Oct 18 21:10 |
| Sosumi | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1Hdp3hRLCQ | Oct 18 21:10 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.youtube.com | Excel Saga Complete Opening - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/fwqr5 ] | Oct 18 21:10 |
| Sosumi | I think it's awesome | Oct 18 21:10 |
| MinceR | no, not that excel | Oct 18 21:12 |
| Sosumi | :) | Oct 18 21:12 |
| MinceR | i meant the one that pretends to be a spreadsheet application | Oct 18 21:12 |
| Sosumi | it's much worse than it was before the amount of space the menus take vs the spreadsheet itself | Oct 18 21:14 |
| MinceR | indeed | Oct 18 21:14 |
| Sosumi | *because | Oct 18 21:14 |
| MinceR | the amounts of clicks necessary for an action also increased | Oct 18 21:14 |
| Sosumi | yes | Oct 18 21:14 |
| MinceR | the organization of the ribbon is an illogical mess | Oct 18 21:14 |
| MinceR | the file format kept the problems of the old one and added a slew of new problems | Oct 18 21:14 |
| MinceR | and the whole thing is even slower than it was | Oct 18 21:14 |
| MinceR | (and they know it, since they've added another splash screen) | Oct 18 21:15 |
| Sosumi | all that because of m$ wanting to make something touch/stylus friendly | Oct 18 21:15 |
| MinceR | nope | Oct 18 21:15 |
| MinceR | all that because m$ wants to get people used to a ui they own patents on | Oct 18 21:15 |
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| MinceR | (even though they didn't even invent it in the first place) | Oct 18 21:15 |
| Sosumi | well that I didn't know | Oct 18 21:15 |
| Sosumi | but from my perspectibe ribbon only seems to work well on a tablet like surface | Oct 18 21:16 |
| Sosumi | on the desktop it's plain bad | Oct 18 21:16 |
| Sosumi | and even mathworks moved to it | Oct 18 21:16 |
| Sosumi | shamefully | Oct 18 21:16 |
| MinceR | i don't see how it could work well | Oct 18 21:16 |
| MinceR | you still click on a top level menu item-sized (and shaped) item and then a button | Oct 18 21:17 |
| MinceR | and the buttons vary wildly in size and shape | Oct 18 21:17 |
| MinceR | and some buttons pop up a menu | Oct 18 21:17 |
| Sosumi | I just said that from the pictures I saw from the thing | Oct 18 21:17 |
| MinceR | ic | Oct 18 21:17 |
| Sosumi | never used it nor I intend to | Oct 18 21:17 |
| MinceR | and they _know_ it sucks, as they've tried to compensate for it with an idiotic context-sensitive popup toolbar | Oct 18 21:18 |
| MinceR | (which mainly just manages to get in the way and fade in and out randomly) | Oct 18 21:18 |
| Sosumi | it hides? | Oct 18 21:18 |
| MinceR | sometimes it does | Oct 18 21:18 |
| Sosumi | lulz | Oct 18 21:19 |
| MinceR | i think it depends on where the pointer is | Oct 18 21:19 |
| MinceR | (which of course wouldn't work on a tablet) | Oct 18 21:19 |
| Sosumi | what is shamefull is that now you can't even expect privacy on what you do inside your machine | Oct 18 21:22 |
| Sosumi | ubuntu started, now M$ is doing | Oct 18 21:23 |
| Sosumi | it too | Oct 18 21:25 |
| Sosumi | google also does it on android | Oct 18 21:25 |
| MinceR | how? | Oct 18 21:25 |
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| Sosumi | article said searches on android are sent to google | Oct 18 21:26 |
| MinceR | using the search widget? | Oct 18 21:27 |
| Sosumi | think sop | Oct 18 21:32 |
| Sosumi | also, doesn't all website data get sent to google if you use chrome? | Oct 18 21:34 |
| MinceR | i don't know | Oct 18 21:36 |
| MinceR | i don't use chrome | Oct 18 21:36 |
| Sosumi | that was from what I read | Oct 18 21:37 |
| Sosumi | and ye I don't use chrome either | Oct 18 21:37 |
| Sosumi | but it only makes sense for google to do so since they're basically an advertising company | Oct 18 21:48 |
| Sosumi | *that | Oct 18 21:49 |
| Sosumi | "I'm not saying that this type of functionality is unprecedented. Google has long incorporated that kind of capability in Android and Google Instant search." | Oct 18 21:49 |
| Sosumi | that's quoting the article | Oct 18 21:50 |
| Sosumi | http://android.stackexchange.com/questions/43361/what-information-does-stock-android-send-to-google-by-default-and-how-do-i-opt | Oct 18 21:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | android.stackexchange.com | privacy - What information does stock Android send to Google by default, and how do I opt-out? - Android Enthusiasts Stack Exchange [ http://ur1.ca/fwqu1 ] | Oct 18 21:50 |
| MinceR | ic | Oct 18 21:50 |
| Sosumi | android is no better than the others | Oct 18 21:52 |
| Sosumi | in the end it's like comparing poop | Oct 18 21:52 |
| Sosumi | saying that this one smells less bad than the other | Oct 18 21:52 |
| MinceR | only from a privacy standpoint | Oct 18 21:52 |
| Sosumi | yep, but privacy is important | Oct 18 21:53 |
| MinceR | indeed | Oct 18 21:53 |
| MinceR | but that doesn't make a choice of mobile os meaningless | Oct 18 21:54 |
| Sosumi | you don't want all your private life to be open to whomever wants to buy it nor open for the intelligence agencies to profile you | Oct 18 21:54 |
| Sosumi | nop, because android you can actually strip down the entire thing | Oct 18 21:55 |
| Sosumi | on the others you can't | Oct 18 21:55 |
| Sosumi | and on the case of the android forks for example | Oct 18 21:58 |
| Sosumi | you don't know what aditional code samsung or any other company put in there | Oct 18 21:58 |
| Sosumi | that is why I say, for getting a phone | Oct 18 21:59 |
| Sosumi | better get a nexus | Oct 18 21:59 |
| Sosumi | because the thing comes with the bootloader unlocked | Oct 18 21:59 |
| Sosumi | so you don't lose the warranty in case things go bad | Oct 18 21:59 |
| MinceR | my problem with nexii is that they don't have a memory card slot | Oct 18 21:59 |
| MinceR | so if the phone breaks, all my data on it becomes inaccessible | Oct 18 21:59 |
| Sosumi | yeah, it's bad | Oct 18 21:59 |
| MinceR | otherwise i could just take the card out and keep using it | Oct 18 21:59 |
| Sosumi | I have the issue | Oct 18 22:00 |
| Sosumi | *same | Oct 18 22:00 |
| MinceR | i guess daily backup to one's own storage device (not someone else's cloud) is the next best thing | Oct 18 22:00 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2013/10/toyota-is-recalling-more-than-800-000-cars-because-of-spiders/280694/ | Oct 18 22:00 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.theatlantic.com | Toyota Is Recalling More Than 800,000 Cars Because of Spiders - Megan Garber - The Atlantic [ http://ur1.ca/fwquo ] | Oct 18 22:00 |
| DaemonFC | Spiders are causing the airbags to deploy. | Oct 18 22:01 |
| MinceR | :D | Oct 18 22:01 |
| MinceR | invasion of the airbag-deploying spiders | Oct 18 22:02 |
| Sosumi | hilarious | Oct 18 22:02 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, They also turn on the warning lights. | Oct 18 22:06 |
| DaemonFC | Unfortunately, Toyota didn't equip their vehicles with a spider warning light. | Oct 18 22:06 |
| MinceR | neither did anyone else | Oct 18 22:06 |
| DaemonFC | Spiders don't deploy the airbags in a Ford. | Oct 18 22:06 |
| MinceR | it wouldn't do anything anyway, as it's Found On Road Dead :> | Oct 18 22:07 |
| Sosumi | lol | Oct 18 22:07 |
| Sosumi | but you see TOYota is toy car manufaturer | Oct 18 22:08 |
| Sosumi | *a | Oct 18 22:08 |
| Sosumi | I haven't seen any european car commpanies doing racals for things like that | Oct 18 22:08 |
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| MinceR | and here i was worrying about spiders climbing into the vents and fans of my laptops | Oct 18 22:11 |
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| Sosumi | not that many spiders here, but, laptop fans tend to clog quickly | Oct 18 22:15 |
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| DaemonFC | Yeah, I had a guy in a Honda jump out in front of me earlier. | Oct 18 22:37 |
| DaemonFC | A real car does not make a buzzing noise like that. | Oct 18 22:37 |
| DaemonFC | Those things are annoying. You just want to drive right over them. | Oct 18 22:38 |
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| MinceR | what buzzing noise? electric motor? | Oct 18 22:41 |
| DaemonFC | No | Oct 18 22:41 |
| DaemonFC | He had a mid-90s Honda | Oct 18 22:41 |
| DaemonFC | an Accord I think | Oct 18 22:42 |
| MinceR | then the sound of a gas-non-guzzling engine? | Oct 18 22:44 |
| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer shared a link. | Oct 18 22:59 |
| DaemonFC | 14 seconds ago | Oct 18 22:59 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/human_genome/2013/10/analyze_your_child_s_dna_which_grandparents_are_most_genetically_related.html | Oct 18 22:59 |
| DaemonFC | Well, I haven't thrown a cheeseburger and a diet Coke at anyone lately, so it must not be my maternal grandmother. :) | Oct 18 22:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.slate.com | Analyze your child’s DNA: Which grandparents are most genetically related? [ http://ur1.ca/fwr05 ] | Oct 18 22:59 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, My engine is pretty quiet really. | Oct 18 22:59 |
| DaemonFC | When I'm stopped, you can't even tell the engine is running. | Oct 18 22:59 |
| DaemonFC | Honda's are really not as reliable as people like to claim they are. | Oct 18 23:00 |
| DaemonFC | Like any other car, some are well-built, and some come from the factory as junk that keeps breaking down. | Oct 18 23:00 |
| DaemonFC | Some have owners that invest in maintaining them, some have owners that don't even change the oil. | Oct 18 23:00 |
| DaemonFC | This myth that they're all reliable and well built has the resale value all jacked up, even for ones that are in a horrible state of disrepair. | Oct 18 23:01 |
| MinceR | uh huh | Oct 18 23:01 |
| DaemonFC | The first thing I did when I got my crown vic was take it to the shop and have them change all the fluids and filters, and swap out the spark plugs and wires. | Oct 18 23:02 |
| DaemonFC | Put a little money in maintaining it, and it will save you from major repair work later. | Oct 18 23:02 |
| DaemonFC | My aunt (the one that died in August) had a Honda Prelude that she had all kinds of problems with. | Oct 18 23:03 |
| DaemonFC | The transmission even went out and had to be rebuilt. | Oct 18 23:03 |
| DaemonFC | The car only had 60,000 miles on it when that happened. | Oct 18 23:03 |
| DaemonFC | She sold it to my uncle. He put thousands of dollars into trying to fix it up into some kind of decent reliable car. | Oct 18 23:04 |
| DaemonFC | He eventually gave up and it started a huge fight between them before she eventually bought it back so there's be peace again. | Oct 18 23:04 |
| DaemonFC | and it's been sitting out beside my grandmother's house rotting away for about the last 10 years. | Oct 18 23:04 |
| DaemonFC | Right now he's driving a Buick Century that my grandmother gave him. | Oct 18 23:05 |
| DaemonFC | I know it had over 200,000 miles on it the last time he was up here. | Oct 18 23:05 |
| DaemonFC | Honda has their fair share of lemons. | Oct 18 23:05 |
| DaemonFC | And anyone that says they don't is putting forth anecdotal evidence. | Oct 18 23:06 |
| DaemonFC | When you look at Edmunds.com or other sites that tell you what tends to go wrong with a certain make/model/year of vehicle, you see that Hondas have expensive problems and fixing them is almost always going to cost you more than the same part on a Ford. | Oct 18 23:07 |
| DaemonFC | My neighbor has a Toyota Camry. She had a side impact in Walmart's parking lot the other day. | Oct 18 23:08 |
| DaemonFC | a 10 mile an hour hit left a dent the size of a grapefruit. | Oct 18 23:09 |
| MinceR | shouldn't be a surprise that fixing a more expensive car is more expensive | Oct 18 23:12 |
| MinceR | and yes, camrys aren't APCs :> | Oct 18 23:13 |
| MinceR | also, was that dent in the passenger cell? | Oct 18 23:13 |
| DaemonFC | The rear of the driver side quarter panel. | Oct 18 23:14 |
| DaemonFC | Looks terrible. | Oct 18 23:14 |
| MinceR | what's a quarter panel? | Oct 18 23:15 |
| DaemonFC | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quarter_panel | Oct 18 23:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | en.wikipedia.org | Quarter panel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/fwr2g ] | Oct 18 23:15 |
| MinceR | ic | Oct 18 23:16 |
| MinceR | no surprise, then | Oct 18 23:16 |
| DaemonFC | Mine has some dings and scratches, but it's not all that bad. | Oct 18 23:16 |
| MinceR | in modern cars, everything outside the passenger cell is supposed to deform and expend the energy of the collisions | Oct 18 23:16 |
| DaemonFC | Next year, I'm going to have them pull and fill the dents and repaint the entire car. | Oct 18 23:16 |
| MinceR | so that the passengers aren't crushed or flung against the car | Oct 18 23:16 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, well, I think my car is alot safer than her's. | Oct 18 23:17 |
| DaemonFC | Just because it's a big solid car. | Oct 18 23:17 |
| MinceR | sure, but just because the car stays intact doesn't mean you will too :> | Oct 18 23:17 |
| DaemonFC | Those little economy cars might get a five star rating, but that's a five star rating for their "class". | Oct 18 23:17 |
| MinceR | or more accurately, just because certain parts of the car stay intact doesn't mean you will too | Oct 18 23:17 |
| DaemonFC | It doesn't mean you'll be as safe as you would be in a larger car. | Oct 18 23:17 |
| MinceR | yeah, large cars still have an advantage | Oct 18 23:18 |
| MinceR | i don't know how exactly this combines with issues in absorbing energy, though | Oct 18 23:18 |
| MinceR | or, say, if the drive wheel shaft stays intact and skewers the driver :> | Oct 18 23:18 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.edmunds.com/honda/accord/1998/reliability.html?style=14475 | Oct 18 23:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.edmunds.com | 1998 Honda Accord DX 2.3L 4-cyl. 5-speed Manual Reliability [ http://ur1.ca/fwr3f ] | Oct 18 23:19 |
| DaemonFC | An occasional problem on this vehicle is failure of the Automatic Transmission. | Oct 18 23:19 |
| DaemonFC | The cost to repair the Automatic Transmission is estimated at $3000.00 for a remanufactured Automatic Transmission and $429.00 for labor. | Oct 18 23:19 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Oct 18 23:19 |
| DaemonFC | In other words, if the transmission goes out, you should junk it and look for another car. | Oct 18 23:20 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.edmunds.com/honda/accord/1999/reliability.html?style=11976 | Oct 18 23:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.edmunds.com | 1999 Honda Accord DX 2.3L 4-cyl. 5-speed Manual Reliability [ http://ur1.ca/fwr3t ] | Oct 18 23:21 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.edmunds.com/honda/accord/2000/reliability.html?style=2321 | Oct 18 23:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.edmunds.com | 2000 Honda Accord DX 2.3L 4-cyl. 5-speed Manual Reliability [ http://ur1.ca/fwr3y ] | Oct 18 23:21 |
| DaemonFC | So they're a ticking timebomb. | Oct 18 23:21 |
| DaemonFC | You can get a pretty good idea of what shape the transmission is in by looking at the color of the automatic transmission fluid, and smelling it. | Oct 18 23:22 |
| DaemonFC | If it is brown or black or smells burned, you don't want the car. | Oct 18 23:22 |
| DaemonFC | and of course, you're going to want to get it up to highway speeds and make sure it doesn't have any problem shifting through each gear. | Oct 18 23:23 |
| DaemonFC | Alot of Pontiacs seem to develop a problem with shifting between second and third gear. | Oct 18 23:23 |
| DaemonFC | I experienced that on several of their vans that I drove. | Oct 18 23:23 |
| DaemonFC | According to Autowyse, if my car needed a transmission rebuild, I'd be looking at $900-$1,500, depending on what parts I wanted and where the work was done. | Oct 18 23:25 |
| DaemonFC | I'd bet that Daniels could bring it in at around $1,000. | Oct 18 23:25 |
| DaemonFC | If I was starting out with a brand new car, I'd just get the transmission drained and filled like Ford says to do every 30,000 miles. | Oct 18 23:27 |
| DaemonFC | Alot of people don't do that, so you have to get it power flushed and have the pan gasket and filter changed as soon as you buy it, to catch up. | Oct 18 23:27 |
| DaemonFC | I use NAPA ATF fluid. It's just rebranded Valvoline. | Oct 18 23:28 |
| DaemonFC | NAPA has decent parts. I wouldn't go to Auto Zone for anything other than maybe windshield wipers or something. | Oct 18 23:28 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, What's funny is that alot of these people go to Jiffy Lube and tell them to flush the transmission. | Oct 18 23:29 |
| DaemonFC | and that's not the same as going to a dealer or most independent garages | Oct 18 23:30 |
| DaemonFC | Jiffy Lube hooks up a machine to the transmission's cooler line and flushes it through that. | Oct 18 23:30 |
| DaemonFC | They don't drop and clean the pan, or replace the pan gasket and filter. | Oct 18 23:30 |
| DaemonFC | So it's not uncommon for the transmission to fail soon after you have them do that. | Oct 18 23:31 |
| DaemonFC | It will loosen up some "gunk" in the system, that proceeds to clog the filter, and then the transmission fails because the fluid can't circulate. | Oct 18 23:31 |
| DaemonFC | I trust Jiffy Lube with my car even less than I'd trust Walmart with my car. | Oct 18 23:32 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 18 23:32 |
| DaemonFC | If anything, Walmart has gotten so afraid of lawsuits, that they're really careful about what they let their bay technicians do now. | Oct 18 23:32 |
| DaemonFC | It's pretty much just oil, batteries, and tires now. | Oct 18 23:32 |
| DaemonFC | They used to do more. | Oct 18 23:32 |
| MinceR | i've never trusted either of those | Oct 18 23:32 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Next time I need tires, I'm going to Daniels. | Oct 18 23:33 |
| MinceR | with my car, that is | Oct 18 23:33 |
| DaemonFC | They are about $10 more per tire, but they have $50-$75 rebates all the time. | Oct 18 23:33 |
| DaemonFC | and they throw in a free four wheel alignment | Oct 18 23:33 |
| DaemonFC | Those usually cost $60-80 by themselves, depending on where you go. | Oct 18 23:33 |
| DaemonFC | Lots of undercover news channel investigations at Jiffy Lube revealed that they don't even do the transmission flush or change your oil filter most of the time. | Oct 18 23:35 |
| DaemonFC | They just bill you for it. | Oct 18 23:35 |
| DaemonFC | It's pretty easy to figure out whether they changed the oil filter. | Oct 18 23:35 |
| DaemonFC | Take a sharpie marker and draw a line all the way around the old filter. | Oct 18 23:35 |
| DaemonFC | IF the line is still on it when you come back, they didn't change it. | Oct 18 23:36 |
| DaemonFC | There was one Jiffy Lube I used to go to alot, but it was just because there was this big glass window that let you look out into the service bay. | Oct 18 23:37 |
| DaemonFC | So I could watch them drain the oil, change the filter, and pour the correct amount of oil in. | Oct 18 23:37 |
| DaemonFC | Most of them aren't like that though. The one down in Marion is. | Oct 18 23:37 |
| DaemonFC | When I lived in Muncie, I always took the car to Big-O Tires, because they always had a coupon for $14.99 oil changes. | Oct 18 23:38 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Oct 18 23:38 |
| DaemonFC | but that was a long time ago. | Oct 18 23:38 |
| DaemonFC | You never see them cheaper than $23 now. | Oct 18 23:38 |
| DaemonFC | Those shops don't make much money off of oil changes. The purpose of the cheap oil change is to get you in there so they can do a once over on your car and recommend other repairs. | Oct 18 23:39 |
| DaemonFC | You really can go there and get the oil change and just ignore them though. :) | Oct 18 23:39 |
| DaemonFC | With batteries, I go by age, not what the meter says. | Oct 18 23:41 |
| DaemonFC | I've made that mistake before. The meter says it's good and then two weeks later, the car doesn't start. | Oct 18 23:41 |
| DaemonFC | If the guarantee is 3 years, change it after 3 years. | Oct 18 23:41 |
| DaemonFC | But the 5 year ones aren't much more expensive, so I get those. | Oct 18 23:42 |
| DaemonFC | hmmm, that's nice... | Oct 18 23:52 |
| DaemonFC | Amazon had the air filter I wanted for $5.77 with a $2 MIR. | Oct 18 23:53 |
| DaemonFC | Auto Zone had it for $7.99. | Oct 18 23:53 |
| *DaemonFC is a smart consumer that saved $2. | Oct 18 23:53 | |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Oct 18 23:53 |
| DaemonFC | http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2149799 | Oct 19 00:02 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | forums.anandtech.com | Air Filter Brand Make a Difference?? - AnandTech Forums [ http://ur1.ca/fwrbw ] | Oct 19 00:02 |
| DaemonFC | Yes it does actually. | Oct 19 00:02 |
| DaemonFC | AC DELCO and FRAM are both fine, but some people spend lots of money for a "permanent washable" K&N filter that lets all kinds of shit into the engine. | Oct 19 00:02 |
| DaemonFC | and the "oiling" they require for the cleaning procedure tends to get into the MAF sensor, and that's going to cost $150. | Oct 19 00:02 |
| DaemonFC | So if you want to save money and your engine, you use the pleated paper filters and just check to see if they're dirty about once a year. | Oct 19 00:04 |
| DaemonFC | If it is, throw it away and buy a new one. | Oct 19 00:04 |
| DaemonFC | I saw someone with an old beat up Honda with a lot of rust on it, that had spent over $100 putting a K&N cold air intake on their car. | Oct 19 00:05 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 19 00:05 |
| DaemonFC | Craigslist, naturally. | Oct 19 00:05 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.f150online.com/forums/v8-engines/293233-why-motorcraft-air-filters-so-expensive.html | Oct 19 00:09 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.f150online.com | Why are MotorCraft Air Filters So Expensive? - F150online Forums [ http://ur1.ca/fwrcw ] | Oct 19 00:09 |
| DaemonFC | "any part you get at a dealer is way overpriced" | Oct 19 00:09 |
| DaemonFC | not always, just usually. | Oct 19 00:09 |
| DaemonFC | Auto Zone had aftermarket keychain remotes that would work with my car for $49.99, but the Ford dealer had the OEM part for $56. | Oct 19 00:10 |
| DaemonFC | $40 for a replacement air filter from a dealer is a bit much :) | Oct 19 00:10 |
| DaemonFC | I've never used Motorcraft brand anything. | Oct 19 00:12 |
| DaemonFC | Ford recommends it, but it's not like you have to use it. | Oct 19 00:12 |
| DaemonFC | Of course they recommend it, it's their brand. :) | Oct 19 00:12 |
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| DaemonFC | I do use FRAM air filters, but not oil or fuel filters. | Oct 19 00:15 |
| DaemonFC | I use NAPA oil and fuel filters, because that's where Daniels Automotive gets their parts. | Oct 19 00:15 |
| DaemonFC | FRAM oil filters are not well made. | Oct 19 00:15 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRRgw4B7R-I | Oct 19 00:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.youtube.com | ( WARNING ) For You Fram Oil Filter Lover's.YouTube - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/fwrdw ] | Oct 19 00:16 |
| DaemonFC | They're what Walmart uses. | Oct 19 00:17 |
| DaemonFC | Walmart is just the wrong place to take your car to. | Oct 19 00:18 |
| DaemonFC | I keep telling Dave that. | Oct 19 00:18 |
| DaemonFC | He asked me to take his '89 Buick Park Avenue to Walmart to get them to patch a tire for him. | Oct 19 00:18 |
| DaemonFC | They called me back to the TLE five minutes later because they couldn't figure out how to get the hubcaps off. | Oct 19 00:18 |
| DaemonFC | I ended up going to Daniels and asking them to patch it. They didn't even charge me anything. They said that I've been such a good customer, that I didn't even need to worry about it. | Oct 19 00:19 |
| DaemonFC | Now that's service. | Oct 19 00:19 |
| DaemonFC | Taking your car to the dealer for anything that's not covered under the warranty or a recall is just stupid. | Oct 19 00:20 |
| DaemonFC | but don't take it to Walmart either. | Oct 19 00:20 |
| DaemonFC | Find a local independent that you can trust. | Oct 19 00:20 |
| DaemonFC | FRAM oil filters are OK if you like lubricating your engine with metal shavings. | Oct 19 00:24 |
| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer shared a link. | Oct 19 00:26 |
| DaemonFC | 3 hours ago | Oct 19 00:26 |
| DaemonFC | Vista 8.1 punishes users for turning off Restricted Boot. | Oct 19 00:26 |
| DaemonFC | http://forums.mydigitallife.info/threads/47485-quot-Secureboot-isn-t-configured-correctly-quot-Watermark-Windows-8-1-Core-activated | Oct 19 00:26 |
| DaemonFC | "Secure" Boot is designed to make sure that the computer can only run Windows. Right now you can turn it off, but in the future, that might not be possible. | Oct 19 00:26 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | forums.mydigitallife.info | "Secureboot isn't configured correctly" Watermark. Windows 8.1 Core activated. [ http://ur1.ca/fwrf3 ] | Oct 19 00:26 |
| DaemonFC | I wouldn't want a PC that can only run Windows. If that happened, I'd quit using a PC. | Oct 19 00:26 |
| MinceR | it wouldn't even be a pc | Oct 19 00:26 |
| MinceR | it would be a windows appliance | Oct 19 00:26 |
| MinceR | or a windows computer | Oct 19 00:27 |
| MinceR | but not a pc | Oct 19 00:27 |
| MinceR | gn | Oct 19 00:27 |
| DaemonFC | yan Farmer shared a link via Slashdot.org. | Oct 19 00:28 |
| DaemonFC | 6 hours ago | Oct 19 00:28 |
| DaemonFC | Did someone say "Body Thetans"? | Oct 19 00:28 |
| DaemonFC | http://yro.slashdot.org/story/13/10/18/031208/scientologys-fraud-conviction-upheld-in-france?utm_source=slashdot&utm_medium=facebook | Oct 19 00:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | yro.slashdot.org | Scientology's Fraud Conviction Upheld In France - Slashdot [ http://ur1.ca/fwrfh ] | Oct 19 00:28 |
| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer | Oct 19 00:38 |
| DaemonFC | Toyota. Moving forward, uncontrollably, with airbag-deploying spiders. Hahahaha! | Oct 19 00:38 |
| DaemonFC | Buy a Ford. | Oct 19 00:38 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnZH26BWtYE&list=TLjTrlTU6pKBN2hlu0988zUllA5VC3OjgY | Oct 19 01:08 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.youtube.com | My 1995 Buick Century few month after maaco paint job - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/fwris ] | Oct 19 01:08 |
| DaemonFC | That actually looks pretty good. | Oct 19 01:08 |
| DaemonFC | I've been thinking about paying MAACO to sand down my car and fill in some dents, then prime, paint, and clearcoat it. | Oct 19 01:09 |
| DaemonFC | Not sure what color I want, but it'll be a while before I have the money anyway. | Oct 19 01:09 |
| DaemonFC | So I have some time to think. | Oct 19 01:09 |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR, I was thinking about having them paint it black. | Oct 19 01:13 |
| DaemonFC | The same color that the undercover police use. | Oct 19 01:13 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-KaVmjGePk | Oct 19 01:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.youtube.com | Undercover 2010 Ford Crown Vic [EVI built] - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/fwrix ] | Oct 19 01:14 |
| DaemonFC | illegal to get the flashers, but not the paint job. | Oct 19 01:14 |
| DaemonFC | might have them tint the windows | Oct 19 01:14 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yt_UML9I4ME | Oct 19 01:20 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.youtube.com | 2006 Ford Crown Victoria Police Interceptor - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/fwrjg ] | Oct 19 01:20 |
| DaemonFC | I want one of those touchscreen systems installed. | Oct 19 01:20 |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR will like that. | Oct 19 01:45 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/10/18/furloughed-government-workers-could-be-paid-twice-in-oregon/ | Oct 19 02:33 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.foxnews.com | Furloughed government workers could be paid twice in Oregon | Fox News [ http://ur1.ca/fwrok ] | Oct 19 02:33 |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.carrentingreviews.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/2013-Ford-Edge-Limited-AWD-Deep-Impact-Blue-Metallic_rear.jpg | Oct 19 02:51 |
| DaemonFC | Deep Impact Blue Metallic. | Oct 19 02:51 |
| DaemonFC | I think I found the color I want them to repaint my Crown Vic. | Oct 19 02:52 |
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| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer shared Daily Kos's photo. | Oct 19 03:09 |
| DaemonFC | 8 seconds ago | Oct 19 03:09 |
| DaemonFC | Good, Good, Good, Good, Excellent, Eww, Good, Eww, Eww, Eww. | Oct 19 03:09 |
| DaemonFC | Don't be "that guy" that passes out candy corns. NOBODY likes candy corns. :) | Oct 19 03:09 |
| DaemonFC | https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/p480x480/1391623_10151921838384255_649165609_n.png | Oct 19 03:09 |
| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer | Oct 19 03:10 |
| DaemonFC | 2 seconds ago | Oct 19 03:10 |
| DaemonFC | "Well they can't all be winners can they?" -Billy Bob Thornton as Bad Santa on candy corns. | Oct 19 03:10 |
| JimmyCarter | i like candy corn | Oct 19 03:12 |
| JimmyCarter | wish i had some | Oct 19 03:12 |
| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer | Oct 19 03:12 |
| DaemonFC | 2 seconds ago | Oct 19 03:12 |
| DaemonFC | You are stranded on a desert island. Your only provisions are candy corns and dog food. | Oct 19 03:12 |
| DaemonFC | $> Eat dog food. | Oct 19 03:12 |
| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer | Oct 19 03:15 |
| DaemonFC | 2 seconds ago | Oct 19 03:15 |
| DaemonFC | $> Go north. | Oct 19 03:15 |
| DaemonFC | You stumble upon a grue. | Oct 19 03:15 |
| DaemonFC | $> Feed candy corns to grue. | Oct 19 03:15 |
| DaemonFC | The grue takes 1000 HP damage and dies. | Oct 19 03:15 |
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| MinceR | buy a ford, then you won't be moving forward, backward, or anywhere | Oct 19 07:26 |
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| iophk | http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1295 | Oct 19 08:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.markshuttleworth.com | Mark Shuttleworth » Blog Archive » Quantal, raring, saucy… | Oct 19 08:11 |
| iophk | "Mir is really important work. When lots of competitors attack a project on purely political grounds..." | Oct 19 08:12 |
| iophk | There are a lot of reasons for and against mir, but dismissing the criticism as political is to dodge them and ultimately make the project worse off than if they had been adressed. | Oct 19 08:14 |
| JimmyCarter | didnt Mir crash already | Oct 19 08:14 |
| JimmyCarter | or completely burnup on reentry | Oct 19 08:14 |
| iophk | https://www.google.com/images?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=mir+reentry&oe=utf-8&hl=en | Oct 19 08:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.google.com | mir reentry - Google Search [ http://ur1.ca/fwsla ] | Oct 19 08:15 |
| iophk | http://mrpogson.com/2013/10/18/more-fud-bites-the-dust/ | Oct 19 08:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | mrpogson.com | More FUD Bites The Dust | Robert Pogson [ http://ur1.ca/fwsln ] | Oct 19 08:19 |
| MinceR | :) | Oct 19 08:20 |
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| iophk | http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2013-10-18/a-federal-it-contractor-makes-the-case-against-open-source-obamacare | Oct 19 09:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.businessweek.com | A Federal IT Contractor Makes the Case Against Open-Source Obamacare - Businessweek [ http://ur1.ca/fwsu9 ] | Oct 19 09:54 |
| iophk | "he questions the relationship between opening the code and improving the quality" | Oct 19 09:54 |
| iophk | free/libre open source is also a development model. | Oct 19 09:55 |
| oiaohm | iophk: open source is a segement of a development model. | Oct 19 10:00 |
| oiaohm | iophk: projects like wine are able to develop at insane rates due to huge test suites. | Oct 19 10:00 |
| oiaohm | iophk: it is a bit hard to audit a program for quality if you don't have access to the source code. | Oct 19 10:02 |
| iophk | I have run into proponents of black box auditing, they claimed with a straight face that it helped security and reliability | Oct 19 10:03 |
| iophk | Closed, proprietary systems have no business in publicly funded projects. | Oct 19 10:03 |
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| Sosumi | mark shuttleworm... | Oct 19 11:44 |
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| iophk | "As the user types a search query in the Dash, the partial query is transmitted to Canonical’s servers" | Oct 19 14:01 |
| iophk | http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/10/ubuntu-13-10-review-the-linux-os-of-the-future-remains-a-year-away/ | Oct 19 14:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | arstechnica.com | Ubuntu 13.10 review: The Linux OS of the future remains a year away | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/fwtk8 ] | Oct 19 14:01 |
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| iophk | http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/10/the-top-5-things-weve-learned-about-the-nsa-thanks-to-edward-snowden/ | Oct 19 19:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | arstechnica.com | The top 5 things we’ve learned about the NSA thanks to Edward Snowden | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/fwul3 ] | Oct 19 19:53 |
| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer via Slashdot.org | Oct 19 20:10 |
| DaemonFC | Openness doesn't need to mean walking around with a "kick me" sign on your back. If Wikipedia had the kind of peer review that the Linux kernel did, this kind of stuff wouldn't ever happen. If anyone tried it, it would be spotted and removed before the next iteration of the page was ever shown to the public. | Oct 19 20:10 |
| DaemonFC | The problem with trying to present a neutral point of view, is that it gives equal footing to crackpots. It's like having a debate about climate change, where you have to give the 1% of scientists that deny it (most of whom are on the oil company payroll) 50% of the airtime, or having a debate about the age of the Earth, where you have to give the people that say it's 5,000 years old (demonstrably f | Oct 19 20:10 |
| DaemonFC | alse) half of the airtime, or having a debate about the shape of the Earth, where you track down the one guy that says it's flat and give him equal footing. | Oct 19 20:10 |
| DaemonFC | Wikipedia and the news should stop trying to be "fair", and spend more time reporting accurately. When you give corporations and silly people half the debate time, you give them more credibility than they really deserve and a chance to influence people who are not knowledgeable about the subject. | Oct 19 20:10 |
| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer via Bill Moyers | Oct 19 20:23 |
| DaemonFC | Nobody is on a government program because they believe in the government. They're on them because the market has failed them. | Oct 19 20:23 |
| DaemonFC | Food stamps are basically the glue that makes minimum wage employers such as Walmart and the fast food industry work. | Oct 19 20:23 |
| DaemonFC | Socialists actually don't like programs like food stamps and medicaid, because we know that they make abusive employers just tolerable enough that people don't want to rock the boat. Without programs like this which just barely patch over the horrible nature of free market capitalism, there would be an uprising the likes of which has not been seen since the 1920s. | Oct 19 20:23 |
| DaemonFC | Also, if the free market works so great, take everyone over 65 off of Social Security and Medicare and watch what happens to them. | Oct 19 20:23 |
| DaemonFC | We have programs like that because people saw what was happening without them, said "Oh my God, that's horrible.", and decided to do something about it. In other words, they saw the cruelty of the free market, and corrected for it. | Oct 19 20:23 |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.huffingtonpost.com/nicholas-carroll/credit-card-maxandwalk-co_b_789793.html | Oct 19 20:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.huffingtonpost.com | Nicholas Carroll: Credit Card Max-and-Walk: Consumers Learn How to Game the Banks [ http://ur1.ca/354wv ] | Oct 19 20:53 |
| DaemonFC | "(I once had a card frozen in less than five minutes for buying gas and then using it at Walmart; my pattern had fit the profile of a stolen card -- testing the card at a gas station and then rushing to Walmart to max it out.)" | Oct 19 20:53 |
| DaemonFC | I always use my credit card for gas and groceries. | Oct 19 20:53 |
| DaemonFC | but just so I can farm the cash back rewards. | Oct 19 20:53 |
| DaemonFC | banks don't like that, but they tolerate it | Oct 19 20:53 |
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| DaemonFC | Microsoft released a broken Windows 8.1 update that started bricking Windows RT devices. | Oct 19 23:57 |
| DaemonFC | So they pulled the update. | Oct 19 23:57 |
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| MinceR | gn | Oct 13 00:57 |
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| gulag2013 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FGqRPGw7eg | Oct 13 04:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.youtube.com | Google's new privacy policy says they can use your photo for ads October 2013 - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/fvnx2 ] | Oct 13 04:40 |
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| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3165187 | Oct 13 07:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Does a Chromebook replace a laptop? http://www.tgdaily.com/mobility-brief/80646-does-a-chromebook-replace-a-laptop it runs #gnu #linux | Oct 13 07:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.tgdaily.com | Does a Chromebook replace a laptop? | TG Daily [ http://ur1.ca/fvjk9 ] | Oct 13 07:41 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "And if I can't do anything I want with MY hardware I won't buy that hardware" | Oct 13 07:41 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | [16:36] <_Goblin> schestowitz: HI there! Yep if youre coming to London, make sure you visit! - Oh and btw 1984 not an insightful glimse of the future, an exercise in the bloody obvious for anyone who has studied any human culture from its roots....but thats another story.... | Oct 13 07:42 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Cool;.maybe my wife can come also | Oct 13 07:42 |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR, Apparently it's easier to commit odometer fraud with those new digital odometers. | Oct 13 08:48 |
| DaemonFC | All you have to do is hook up a device and reset it to whatever you want it to say. | Oct 13 08:49 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Oct 13 08:49 |
| gulag2013 | Any Ubuntu users in the room? | Oct 13 08:50 |
| iophk | gulag2013: not a fan of Unity. What's up? | Oct 13 08:52 |
| gulag2013 | I'm just trying to figure the right way to purge Cinnamon desktop, now idea how it got installed | Oct 13 08:53 |
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| iophk | Remove the package "cinnamon" and then autoremove any leftovers? | Oct 13 08:55 |
| gulag2013 | should I use synaptic? | Oct 13 08:55 |
| iophk | Yes that would be an easy way. | Oct 13 08:55 |
| gulag2013 | Great thanks, The news on both Facebook and Google, I was very close to removing my gmail | Oct 13 08:57 |
| iophk | Someone posted a reply from GMX online saying they couldn't guarantee non-US servers for their services. | Oct 13 08:57 |
| DaemonFC | I keep getting idiots on Craigslist say they're interested in buying my Taurus. | Oct 13 08:58 |
| DaemonFC | Then they either try to get it really cheap or never show up to look at it. | Oct 13 08:58 |
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| oiaohm | gulag2013: do get to know aptitude as well. Highly useful if anything majorally screwed up with graphical due to package install stuff up. | Oct 13 09:02 |
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| gulag2013 | iophk, that seemed to do the trick thanks for your help, all that is left is some gnome. | Oct 13 09:05 |
| iophk | Lots of people have moved to XFCE instead. | Oct 13 09:06 |
| gulag2013 | I'm not to sure I liked that desktop. I will have to double check the disto I thought it was in. | Oct 13 09:07 |
| iophk | It's in Xubuntu if you are into the Ubuntu family of distros. | Oct 13 09:07 |
| iophk | It comes prepackaged on others, too. | Oct 13 09:07 |
| gulag2013 | It's the global menu bar I like in Ubuntu, not Dash | Oct 13 09:08 |
| gulag2013 | Dash, is sort of waste of time | Oct 13 09:08 |
| iophk | What about Cairo-dock then? It's an add on. | Oct 13 09:08 |
| iophk | The Dash is like a lame reimplementation of bash-completion. | Oct 13 09:09 |
| iophk | I don't see it as appropriate to the GUI paradigm | Oct 13 09:09 |
| gulag2013 | It serves me now purpose, now if it would display the last installed package that would be useful | Oct 13 09:09 |
| iophk | If I wanted to type the names of a program to run it, I can already do that, and have done it, since the 1990's | Oct 13 09:09 |
| gulag2013 | Exactly, there a few ones that are not obvious. example Chromium-Browser | Oct 13 09:10 |
| gulag2013 | Once you know them, you are golden | Oct 13 09:11 |
| iophk | less /var/log/apt/history.log | Oct 13 09:11 |
| iophk | Then scroll down to the end. | Oct 13 09:12 |
| gulag2013 | I have no problem typing to launch a program, but dash stutters on my machine. Terminal is just faster | Oct 13 09:12 |
| iophk | There might be a way to get it with grep if one is clever enough. | Oct 13 09:12 |
| gulag2013 | I will write down that path thanks | Oct 13 09:12 |
| iophk | bash completion is actually quite advanced and aware of the syntax and valid options and their accepted parameters. | Oct 13 09:13 |
| gulag2013 | It's fantastic, I'm learning as a go. I was doing tab tab and it was just filling in the whole path. | Oct 13 09:14 |
| iophk | Yep, it knows when to fill in paths and when not to. | Oct 13 09:14 |
| iophk | I guess the structure of the APT history file is always a 4-line record separated by an empty line. | Oct 13 09:15 |
| iophk | So this should work to find the last one: | Oct 13 09:15 |
| iophk | tail -n 4 /var/log/apt/history.log | Oct 13 09:15 |
| gulag2013 | That display all the cinnamon stuff I just removed | Oct 13 09:17 |
| iophk | Yes, I see now. There is a slight defect in how Synaptic logs to that file. You can't just look at "Commandline:" to see if something was added or removed. | Oct 13 09:20 |
| gulag2013 | The first command you gave me is long list of everything. Can I use an -l flag somewhere, it looks like shit. | Oct 13 09:20 |
| iophk | The long lines get wrapped. So that makes it look bad. | Oct 13 09:20 |
| gulag2013 | Can I cat it out and have listed/ | Oct 13 09:21 |
| iophk | You could pipe it through a perl script which uses Text::WrapI18N | Oct 13 09:22 |
| iophk | That would allow you to do hanging indents, which should improve readability | Oct 13 09:22 |
| gulag2013 | okay, so I'm looking through this list it looks like a bunch of dependencies, I can't really spot out programs in this mess. | Oct 13 09:23 |
| iophk | Unfortunately the package manager doesn't really make a distinction between applications and their dependencies. | Oct 13 09:24 |
| gulag2013 | Ha ha, it's all good. I know that most of my stuff is in /usr/bin right? | Oct 13 09:25 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: do get to know aptitude as well. Highly useful if anything majorally screwed up with graphical due to package install stuff up. | Oct 13 09:26 |
| gulag2013 | Okay. Can you explain Aptitude for me. just what you it is, not asking for lessons? | Oct 13 09:27 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: aptitude is a text base item like synaptic | Oct 13 09:27 |
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| gulag2013 | starting to ring a bell. how do work in it? | Oct 13 09:28 |
| gulag2013 | I don't even know if its something I have preinstalled. | Oct 13 09:29 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: if it installed aptitude will exist as at terminal option. | Oct 13 09:29 |
| gulag2013 | /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/00aptitude, that came up first line using locate | Oct 13 09:30 |
| oiaohm | aptitude installed should be in /usr/bin/aptitude | Oct 13 09:32 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: http://algebraicthunk.net/~dburrows/projects/aptitude/doc/en/images/install-snapshot.png aptitude has a fairly unque look. | Oct 13 09:33 |
| gulag2013 | That path isn't being displayed, maybe I need to install it | Oct 13 09:33 |
| gulag2013 | Thanks that stand out like a sore thumb | Oct 13 09:34 |
| gulag2013 | Okay I'm installing it. | Oct 13 09:35 |
| iophk | I always had trouble from / with Aptitude. I use apt-get straight up. | Oct 13 09:35 |
| iophk | instead | Oct 13 09:35 |
| gulag2013 | Nice and launches "aptitude" | Oct 13 09:35 |
| oiaohm | iophk: aptitude has better broken package solving than apt-get | Oct 13 09:37 |
| gulag2013 | Well, I take oiaohm's word on at least trying to learn it. I haven't gotten around to learning how to navigate in vim either | Oct 13 09:37 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: Hey I have only used Linux and Unix for over 20 years and I still cannot use vim todo anything. | Oct 13 09:37 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: I use nano as my text editor on the terminal. | Oct 13 09:38 |
| gulag2013 | Ha ha, thanks that made me feel more at ease. I appreciate your suggestions. This is the most fun I have had in long time, as far as learning an O/S goes | Oct 13 09:38 |
| iophk | http://mrpogson.com/2013/10/13/gnulinux-is-for-everyone/ | Oct 13 09:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | mrpogson.com | GNU/Linux Is For Everyone | Robert Pogson [ http://ur1.ca/fvpki ] | Oct 13 09:39 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: I have dyslexia emacs and vim are ways for me to screw up majorally. | Oct 13 09:39 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: so I like stuff with proper displayed memus. | Oct 13 09:39 |
| oiaohm | Whats a few lines of screen space compare to making errors. | Oct 13 09:40 |
| gulag2013 | Are they sort of black sheep. I guess I mean, I get the hang of one thing, and I guess my way around another. So are they just both non intuitive | Oct 13 09:40 |
| iophk | Knowing a little vi is useful since it is on all systems by default and nano or emacs have to be installed intentionally. | Oct 13 09:42 |
| gulag2013 | So emac is comparable to Vim? I'm embarrassed I have to ask that. Stalman created emac, is that right? | Oct 13 09:42 |
| iophk | Yes RMS wrote Emacs | Oct 13 09:42 |
| iophk | It's a nice IDE | Oct 13 09:42 |
| oiaohm | I do have a cheat sheet for vim when desperate. | Oct 13 09:43 |
| oiaohm | But other wise I don't know how to use vim. | Oct 13 09:43 |
| gulag2013 | I didn't know that about nano. | Oct 13 09:43 |
| iophk | The syntax highlighting and other touches are very useful. It has many modes, depending on what kind of file you are editing. | Oct 13 09:43 |
| iophk | nano is nice | Oct 13 09:43 |
| oiaohm | emacs is huge powerful and scary enough you could be using its internal irc client. | Oct 13 09:43 |
| gulag2013 | I use it for text, and it save me step or two | Oct 13 09:43 |
| oiaohm | or even using to to play chess. | Oct 13 09:43 |
| iophk | but you need to set nowrap in nanorc or launch it with -w to avoid wrapping long lines | Oct 13 09:44 |
| oiaohm | vim and vi were both designed to be compact still with lots of functionality. | Oct 13 09:44 |
| oiaohm | Also vim and vi are designed for the nightmare terminal from hell. | Oct 13 09:45 |
| iophk | over 300 baud or slower... | Oct 13 09:45 |
| oiaohm | Yes that being a printer. | Oct 13 09:45 |
| oiaohm | Yes keyboard + printer you can get by with vi or vim. | Oct 13 09:45 |
| oiaohm | Yes vi and vim has some very warped output options. | Oct 13 09:45 |
| gulag2013 | That is the long term goal. it's hard to watch my system go down, and stare at a blank cursor feeling helpless. | Oct 13 09:46 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: basically if you have a interfacw where you cannot use vi or vim you are fairly much stuffed. | Oct 13 09:46 |
| gulag2013 | Sounds like the thing to practice, if it's almost everything | Oct 13 09:47 |
| iophk | You only need to know a few keystrokes to get a lot of mileage out of vi | Oct 13 09:48 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: there is a price for supporting every interface on earth. | Oct 13 09:48 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: don't know keystrokes vi/vim are paper weight is this the price for supporting every interface. | Oct 13 09:49 |
| gulag2013 | What is that exactly? | Oct 13 09:49 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: so I don't like remembering keystrokes. | Oct 13 09:49 |
| oiaohm | This is why I am a nano user. | Oct 13 09:49 |
| oiaohm | I used a item called pico before nano. | Oct 13 09:50 |
| gulag2013 | Oh,well it scares me because I wasn't gifted with the best memory. I just keep trying new commands as I go. | Oct 13 09:50 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: so you are more like me. | Oct 13 09:50 |
| iophk | with pico and nano you can rely on the menus instead | Oct 13 09:50 |
| iophk | IIRC pico came with pine | Oct 13 09:51 |
| oiaohm | iophk: pine was my first email client. | Oct 13 09:51 |
| iophk | 2nd for me, but it is very good | Oct 13 09:51 |
| gulag2013 | How far back are we talking | Oct 13 09:51 |
| iophk | 93 | Oct 13 09:51 |
| oiaohm | 95 me | Oct 13 09:52 |
| iophk | pine's development has been a little less certain of late | Oct 13 09:52 |
| iophk | there is alpine and re-alpine | Oct 13 09:52 |
| gulag2013 | Ah yes, I was just buying my first modem around that time | Oct 13 09:52 |
| _Goblin | gulag2013, I just wonder these days why people bother with the CLI...if you have need of the flexibility of the command line fine, but many people have spent many years making desktop linux intuitive and "one click" in order to concentrate on work and less on "working things out".... | Oct 13 09:52 |
| oiaohm | Before that I only had access to bbs before that. | Oct 13 09:52 |
| iophk | but none quite work with Google's IMAPS | Oct 13 09:52 |
| oiaohm | iophk: I was using Unix's 1991 | Oct 13 09:52 |
| oiaohm | iophk: without internet connection. | Oct 13 09:53 |
| iophk | so no 'mail' program? | Oct 13 09:53 |
| _Goblin | oiaohm, Dawn RaId BbS - The greatest scene BBS in the UK | Oct 13 09:53 |
| _Goblin | and that was 1989 for me. | Oct 13 09:53 |
| oiaohm | iophk: cat mboxfile |less | Oct 13 09:53 |
| iophk | ew | Oct 13 09:53 |
| oiaohm | iophk: I don't call that my first email client. | Oct 13 09:54 |
| oiaohm | iophk: but it worked for what was needed. | Oct 13 09:54 |
| gulag2013 | Goblin, I have spent me whole life using a Gui, feeling like things were being hidden from me. I'm interested in know how my system works more than before | Oct 13 09:54 |
| oiaohm | iophk: only thing being emailed on those systems was errors. | Oct 13 09:54 |
| oiaohm | iophk: read email delete mailbox have it create new again. | Oct 13 09:54 |
| oiaohm | Never ending cycle of ew until I found a email client. | Oct 13 09:54 |
| _Goblin | gulag2013, unless you have some very special requirements it all seems like creating work for yourself....although if its a hobby and you enjoy it, more power to you. | Oct 13 09:55 |
| _Goblin | the cat example I gave yesterday is a good one since in Avidemux you can use the append feature which is arguably quicker than a "CAT" command in the CLI | Oct 13 09:55 |
| gulag2013 | It all depends on the task , I really could care less about learning every command to set up a firewall in a terminal, but know how and where I can fix things is nice | Oct 13 09:56 |
| _Goblin | I think the most important thing (for me anyway) was when I first came to Linux from a Windows background, knowing where the system put everything and then permissions, now the CLI is largely unused and if I have an issue a quick google usually gives me a cut and paste solution. | Oct 13 09:57 |
| gulag2013 | I guess that is what is holding linux back on the desktop. I freaked out the first couple crashes I had using linux | Oct 13 09:57 |
| iophk | The only thing holding Linux back on the desktop is the control of the OEMs. People will use what is preinstalled. | Oct 13 09:57 |
| iophk | Nowadays few even change the default settings. | Oct 13 09:58 |
| _Goblin | I think the thing that can hold Linux back is the idea some people promote that you need to use the CLI at all....Most of the linux installs I've done for people have never used the CLI since they started with Linux | Oct 13 09:58 |
| gulag2013 | Those are good points, yet Windows can be a little whacky where they hide tools also | Oct 13 09:58 |
| oiaohm | _Goblin: and iophk both kinda wrong. | Oct 13 09:58 |
| iophk | The shell is too easy to work with. | Oct 13 09:58 |
| oiaohm | _Goblin: X11 being highly inscure forced command line to remain in high secure usage. | Oct 13 09:59 |
| _Goblin | tell that to someone who uses a PC as a tool, not as a hobby or has an interest in it. | Oct 13 09:59 |
| iophk | To walk someone through a GUI solution needs feeding a series of edited screen shots. | Oct 13 09:59 |
| iophk | That's slow and a lot of work. | Oct 13 09:59 |
| oiaohm | iophk: OEM how can they ship with up stream hardware vendors rejecting Linux. | Oct 13 09:59 |
| iophk | The same solution can be done faster with a line or two. | Oct 13 09:59 |
| _Goblin | yep but its more intiutive to someone with no interest in computing (other than as a tool) | Oct 13 09:59 |
| iophk | oiaohm: M$ still has the control to lean on OEMs, though the grip is weakening | Oct 13 10:00 |
| oiaohm | iophk and _Goblin we have had the problem 2 major road blocks. | Oct 13 10:00 |
| gulag2013 | I would say to that person to get a mac and a service plan. | Oct 13 10:00 |
| _Goblin | you really think a mainstream user the masses would favour text over a flashy GUI? even if it is slower. | Oct 13 10:00 |
| iophk | too bad they got restricted boot pushed through | Oct 13 10:00 |
| iophk | that basically prevents any casual experimentation or anything else by novices | Oct 13 10:00 |
| _Goblin | it is all about OEM.....but those that venture away are also put off from the CLI fud | Oct 13 10:00 |
| _Goblin | about linux | Oct 13 10:00 |
| oiaohm | _Goblin: the CLI is not fud. | Oct 13 10:00 |
| _Goblin | no.... | Oct 13 10:00 |
| _Goblin | badly typed. | Oct 13 10:01 |
| iophk | M$ makes it into FUD | Oct 13 10:01 |
| oiaohm | _Goblin: without fixing X11 the CLI was forced to remain. | Oct 13 10:01 |
| _Goblin | I mean the FUD thats promoted about Linux = CLI | Oct 13 10:01 |
| iophk | because Windows lacks the capability they make fun of it | Oct 13 10:01 |
| iophk | and criticize it. | Oct 13 10:01 |
| _Goblin | but you think the mainstream are interested? | Oct 13 10:01 |
| _Goblin | they just want to use a computer | Oct 13 10:01 |
| oiaohm | _Goblin: X11 stuff ups made the requirement to use CLI so critical. | Oct 13 10:01 |
| _Goblin | they see a command line, they are not interested. | Oct 13 10:01 |
| iophk | on the GUI side, Linux has been easier than Windows for over a decade. | Oct 13 10:01 |
| _Goblin | agreed | Oct 13 10:01 |
| iophk | That's when the KDE 3.x usability study came out | Oct 13 10:02 |
| oiaohm | I would say in some areas Linux is ahead in usablity. | Oct 13 10:02 |
| oiaohm | X11 has been ruining all the great useablity work. | Oct 13 10:02 |
| gulag2013 | You can use the some of the same commands in Powershell I believe, so you have three things you can novice in. OSX, Linux, and even a Windows | Oct 13 10:02 |
| iophk | oiaohm: agreed and it has been ahead for a while | Oct 13 10:02 |
| _Goblin | Ive had newbies on many DE's....all of which met with ease of use by the beginner | Oct 13 10:02 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: we have a better novice shell | Oct 13 10:02 |
| iophk | Unity would be more tolerable if there were a graphical way of exploring which apps are installed | Oct 13 10:03 |
| _Goblin | Unity is the white elephant. | Oct 13 10:03 |
| gulag2013 | Is that right? | Oct 13 10:03 |
| iophk | that and it needs to be able to move the dock off the left side to where ever the user needs it | Oct 13 10:03 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: http://fishshell.com/ this is a shell designed for novices. | Oct 13 10:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | fishshell.com | fish shell | Oct 13 10:03 |
| gulag2013 | What makes it better? I mean that out of pure interst | Oct 13 10:03 |
| _Goblin | that dock gets to be an issue when you have a google web app also with a vertical popout dock. | Oct 13 10:03 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: its automatically designed to bring up help data. | Oct 13 10:04 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: so you know what in heck you are asking the system todo. | Oct 13 10:04 |
| gulag2013 | Get out of town, really? | Oct 13 10:04 |
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| gulag2013 | Thank you so much for sharing that. | Oct 13 10:05 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: http://fishshell.com/assets/img/screenshots/man_completions.png | Oct 13 10:05 |
| gulag2013 | That's cool, I will be playing with that later in the day. | Oct 13 10:06 |
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| gulag2013 | I had no love for learning the command prompt in windows, but now if I use windows 7. I'm hunting for it and yelling that I'm forget to right click admin | Oct 13 10:08 |
| iophk | Windows is all-around useless and illogical, both the GUI and the text UI. | Oct 13 10:13 |
| iophk | _Goblin: some functionality is not there in the GUI. In Synaptic, how do you see the last app or two that was installed? | Oct 13 10:15 |
| gulag2013 | I got used to where things were, until you can guess? | Oct 13 10:15 |
| iophk | It shows all of them but not the latest ones to be added | Oct 13 10:15 |
| iophk | gulag2013: yeah they changed the GUI so that people have to spend their time fussing with the GUI instead of leaving them free to do their work or worse test Linux | Oct 13 10:16 |
| gulag2013 | My mindset was where Goblin's was a two years ago, but now i like it. Somethings are faster, others aren't | Oct 13 10:17 |
| iophk | _Goblin: found the history setting, but it is only for work done through Synaptic, not the overall history | Oct 13 10:17 |
| gulag2013 | If that suits him, I'm always willing to be taught a better way. | Oct 13 10:20 |
| Sosumi | http://macdailynews.com/2013/09/10/new-in-os-x-mavericks-opengl-4-1-brings-increased-performance-more-features/ | Oct 13 10:20 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | macdailynews.com | New in OS X Mavericks: OpenGL 4.1 brings increased performance, more features – MacDailyNews - Welcome Home [ http://ur1.ca/fvpwe ] | Oct 13 10:20 |
| Sosumi | and we're still in 2010, right? | Oct 13 10:21 |
| gulag2013 | Sosumi, Whats that? | Oct 13 10:21 |
| Sosumi | just a joke news about apple being in the past with their opengl spec | Oct 13 10:22 |
| Sosumi | 3 years or so behind and being outperformed by mesa | Oct 13 10:23 |
| gulag2013 | I see, I don't know enough about opengl, I do know that Apple takes forever to get hardware up to date. | Oct 13 10:23 |
| gulag2013 | They keep repackaging the same products with some minor changes. Look what they did to the Mac Pro, what is that? | Oct 13 10:24 |
| Sosumi | the mac pro was OK, they didn't need to change it an oversized dildo | Oct 13 10:25 |
| Sosumi | *into | Oct 13 10:25 |
| gulag2013 | That is what I meant, not specs wise. I guess they don't want you fixing it. | Oct 13 10:26 |
| oiaohm | The more deperate MS gets attempting to hold onto market share the more insane there interface will get. | Oct 13 10:26 |
| Sosumi | nor upgrading it | Oct 13 10:26 |
| oiaohm | Windows 8 was about MS losing control. | Oct 13 10:26 |
| gulag2013 | Microsoft just resorts to smear campaigns, bribes and corrupting the education system | Oct 13 10:27 |
| oiaohm | Remember MS makes more income from android patent licenses than from Windows Phone sales. | Oct 13 10:27 |
| Sosumi | yeah | Oct 13 10:27 |
| gulag2013 | I did hear that | Oct 13 10:27 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: bribes and corruption is how MS got into place. | Oct 13 10:27 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: and illegal dealing. | Oct 13 10:27 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: IBM invented FUD | Oct 13 10:28 |
| gulag2013 | Take Goblin for example. I'm not meaning to use him for this example. I'm a victim also. If I had to learn Linux in elementary school, I would have a skill. | Oct 13 10:29 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: so why did I develop the skill. | Oct 13 10:29 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: It was not because my high school supported it. | Oct 13 10:29 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: mine was seeing my schools computer labs shut down due to software piracy. | Oct 13 10:30 |
| gulag2013 | This is true, you had a passion for it much early I suppose. I wanted nothing to do with, Windows 8 changed that. | Oct 13 10:30 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: No not exactly passion. | Oct 13 10:30 |
| oiaohm | I required working computers. | Oct 13 10:31 |
| gulag2013 | Then you had a reason, and you are much better off now because of it. | Oct 13 10:31 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: my rating of dyslexia was at the level of non functional with out aids. | Oct 13 10:32 |
| iophk | you were lucky if that pushed you to F/OSS. Usually M$ via the BSA is able to force new M$ contracts | Oct 13 10:33 |
| iophk | they used the "piracy" excuse to purge Netware from the server rooms and replace it with non-functional M$ shit | Oct 13 10:33 |
| gulag2013 | I did horrible in school. The way the force you to learn stuff that doesn't help you . Personal relationships skills, nope. Financial literacy, nope | Oct 13 10:33 |
| oiaohm | iophk: think about it my dyslexia require spell checkers and other things. | Oct 13 10:34 |
| oiaohm | iophk: having computer rooms shut down when needing to submit papers was a major problem. | Oct 13 10:34 |
| iophk | Yeah you got burned pretty bad. | Oct 13 10:35 |
| iophk | Timing is a lot | Oct 13 10:35 |
| gulag2013 | I took my Comptia A+ All Microsoft. Tell me that wasn't on purpose. | Oct 13 10:35 |
| gulag2013 | No Apple skills, nothing on Linux at all | Oct 13 10:35 |
| iophk | Kind of confirms that Comptia is a total waste. | Oct 13 10:36 |
| gulag2013 | it truly is now. | Oct 13 10:36 |
| gulag2013 | PC repair, it's a good laugh | Oct 13 10:36 |
| oiaohm | Old A+ exam stuff was good. | Oct 13 10:37 |
| oiaohm | The new stuff is horible | Oct 13 10:37 |
| gulag2013 | Why on earth would someone pay me $100 to fix a $300 dollar emachine | Oct 13 10:37 |
| iophk | that's if it is even repairable. | Oct 13 10:37 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: data recoverable. | Oct 13 10:37 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: opps | Oct 13 10:37 |
| iophk | Most things are single-board these days. | Oct 13 10:37 |
| oiaohm | data recovery. | Oct 13 10:37 |
| oiaohm | Yes I hate word swap I suffer from from time to time. | Oct 13 10:38 |
| iophk | About the only thing removable is the SSD or HD and optical drive, if there is still one. | Oct 13 10:38 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: its not the price of the machine its the price of the data it contains these days. | Oct 13 10:38 |
| gulag2013 | Data recovery, maybe some forgotten password, but if the Motherboard goes, just go to Walmart and get a new one | Oct 13 10:38 |
| gulag2013 | What is that called "Planned Obsolescence" | Oct 13 10:39 |
| oiaohm | Replacing a motherboard can be required as part of datarecovery. | Oct 13 10:39 |
| oiaohm | ie people using insane encryptioned with data stored in the board. | Oct 13 10:40 |
| gulag2013 | Valid point | Oct 13 10:40 |
| oiaohm | Note you are not talking about a 100 dollar fix you are talking about a 1000 dollar fix | Oct 13 10:40 |
| oiaohm | So the data better be worth something. | Oct 13 10:40 |
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| gulag2013 | I didn't get that kind of education either, that is way I'm unpleased with the Comptia people | Oct 13 10:41 |
| gulag2013 | I got Printer questions, and how to be nice to people scenarios | Oct 13 10:42 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: you know something is wrong when do the exam have noted down 5 questiosn because they were sus. | Oct 13 10:43 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: then prove Comptia had them wrong. | Oct 13 10:43 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: like the year Windows NT was released. | Oct 13 10:44 |
| gulag2013 | Yes, I honestly brought one question up. The lady working told me to write to Comptia | Oct 13 10:44 |
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| gulag2013 | Don't get me wrong I passed with no worries, but the majority of the questions were on hardware so old, that you have a better chance of getting hit by a bus, than have your boss fire you over not know the amount of pins in scsi cable | Oct 13 10:46 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: what age hardware do you have to perform data recovery on. | Oct 13 10:47 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: on adverage. | Oct 13 10:47 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: ? | Oct 13 10:48 |
| oiaohm | Yes I do ask some hard question. | Oct 13 10:48 |
| oiaohm | The answer is sub 1 year old and + 5 year old. | Oct 13 10:48 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: worst I have had todo data recovery was 3 years ago on a server build in the 1980s | Oct 13 10:49 |
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| gulag2013 | I have been very lucky, it has never been that serious. I do have a few discs in my tool bag. | Oct 13 10:49 |
| gulag2013 | The stuff, I have had it was easy enough to just get the data off, and replace the hd | Oct 13 10:50 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: basically that old crap in the A+ exam make sense when you come accross somewhere that has done something stupid like put a server in a wall and forget about it. | Oct 13 10:52 |
| gulag2013 | Yet, I'm not working in the industry. This is mostly friends and family and i have built a level of trust. I"m not going to charge an arm and a leg for something simple | Oct 13 10:52 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: yes embed item in wall I have seen 8 times. | Oct 13 10:52 |
| oiaohm | where is the scanner where is keyboard..... Where is computer.... Yes every time something different. | Oct 13 10:53 |
| gulag2013 | You are right, but bus typology really? | Oct 13 10:53 |
| oiaohm | renoviations and computer hardware can get bad. | Oct 13 10:53 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: lot of those bus typology of networks you use with fiber optic. | Oct 13 10:54 |
| oiaohm | Yes there is still ring typology in fiber optic. | Oct 13 10:54 |
| gulag2013 | ha ha, that is rough ride. I bet you are wondering, they had to know I was here to work right? | Oct 13 10:55 |
| gulag2013 | That is fiber, but memorizing what a bnc connector is, sort of silly | Oct 13 10:56 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: I still have 1 place still with some sections of bnc 10 mbs networking. | Oct 13 10:56 |
| oiaohm | The items on it don't need speed. | Oct 13 10:57 |
| gulag2013 | Oh my god. I stand corrected yet again. | Oct 13 10:57 |
| gulag2013 | They still use hubs to? | Oct 13 10:57 |
| oiaohm | bnc ring | Oct 13 10:57 |
| oiaohm | No hubs | Oct 13 10:57 |
| oiaohm | What is hubs. | Oct 13 10:58 |
| gulag2013 | it was before switches | Oct 13 10:58 |
| oiaohm | Please note bnc ring is highly evil. | Oct 13 10:58 |
| oiaohm | The distance of cable of the ring has to be longer than the max transimmsion distance. | Oct 13 10:58 |
| oiaohm | Or horible things happen. | Oct 13 10:59 |
| gulag2013 | Why? | Oct 13 10:59 |
| gulag2013 | What is the distance in meters max? | Oct 13 10:59 |
| oiaohm | Think for one min signal leaves from one point on a ring what happens at the crossing point on the other side. | Oct 13 10:59 |
| oiaohm | This is non terminated BNC 10 mbs networking. | Oct 13 11:00 |
| oiaohm | Aprox 150 meters gulag2013 | Oct 13 11:00 |
| gulag2013 | Oh, darn those diagrams were supposed to be for illustration. I | Oct 13 11:00 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: the ring lenth is 450 metres. | Oct 13 11:01 |
| oiaohm | With the one I am dealing with. | Oct 13 11:01 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: basically the fun job is replace it. | Oct 13 11:02 |
| gulag2013 | I only have a tiny grasp on Networking. Which reminds me I should be thinking about that Exam, but it's useless unless i can get some hands on experience | Oct 13 11:02 |
| oiaohm | Only posible replacement will be fiber something. | Oct 13 11:02 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: location 24/7 saw mill. | Oct 13 11:03 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: would you want to recable that place. | Oct 13 11:03 |
| gulag2013 | No thank you | Oct 13 11:03 |
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| oiaohm | gulag2013: seams to be the universal answer. | Oct 13 11:03 |
| gulag2013 | Oh goodness, do they even cover the nodes? | Oct 13 11:03 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: nothing in there can have vents. | Oct 13 11:04 |
| oiaohm | Other than printers that do from time to time catch fire. | Oct 13 11:04 |
| oiaohm | Yes printer on fire is no joke in that place. | Oct 13 11:04 |
| gulag2013 | rofl fire seriously | Oct 13 11:04 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: fine powered saw dust. | Oct 13 11:05 |
| oiaohm | Meets hot printer equals big problems. | Oct 13 11:05 |
| oiaohm | Ok printer on fire is in fact a good outcome. | Oct 13 11:05 |
| oiaohm | Printer exploded is a bad outcome. | Oct 13 11:05 |
| oiaohm | Both do happen. | Oct 13 11:05 |
| gulag2013 | They should do that aquarium setup for there pc's in there | Oct 13 11:05 |
| oiaohm | Yes blast cage is around printers. | Oct 13 11:06 |
| oiaohm | Yes turn off printer open door get printed object close door. | Oct 13 11:06 |
| oiaohm | Turn back on printer. | Oct 13 11:06 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: no you use vent less pcs in there. | Oct 13 11:06 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: look up fitpc some time. | Oct 13 11:07 |
| gulag2013 | i think i have seen thoses | Oct 13 11:07 |
| gulag2013 | Sounds like you are underpaid | Oct 13 11:08 |
| gulag2013 | So do you do all the admin stuff, plus cable management, etc.. | Oct 13 11:09 |
| gulag2013 | Just you? | Oct 13 11:09 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: contract on call. | Oct 13 11:10 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: pay no one unless it breaks what totally suxs. | Oct 13 11:10 |
| gulag2013 | I'm sorry. | Oct 13 11:12 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: the real horible places are badly paid. | Oct 13 11:14 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: the well paying places normally have decent upgrade and replacement cycles. | Oct 13 11:14 |
| gulag2013 | what sucks is I was trying to move out of those environment. I have worked in nasty warehouses my whole life | Oct 13 11:15 |
| gulag2013 | Are you doing a lot of Windows 7 deployments? | Oct 13 11:16 |
| oiaohm | Nasty ware house can be cleaner than highrise cableing channels. | Oct 13 11:16 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: not really. | Oct 13 11:16 |
| oiaohm | Lot are looking at Windows Multipoint | Oct 13 11:16 |
| oiaohm | Basically huge mother servers supporting 20 users each. | Oct 13 11:17 |
| oiaohm | Then ipad and android tablets and Linux boxes on desktops. | Oct 13 11:17 |
| gulag2013 | Oh, okay. So do you have to break it to places, they need modern stuff | Oct 13 11:17 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: windows stupid limits. | Oct 13 11:18 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: any more than 20 users on a server providing RDP things get bad with Windows. | Oct 13 11:18 |
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| oiaohm | Where if the box was linux you could support a few 100 users. | Oct 13 11:18 |
| gulag2013 | Wow, I didnt' know it was like that with Windows | Oct 13 11:19 |
| oiaohm | There are a lot weakness in windows. | Oct 13 11:20 |
| gulag2013 | Has Microsoft been raising prices | Oct 13 11:20 |
| oiaohm | Yes. | Oct 13 11:20 |
| oiaohm | KSM in Linux kernel that does same page matching to reduce ram usage under Linux is protected by a vmware patent. So windows does not have this feature. | Oct 13 11:21 |
| gulag2013 | Man,there are countries in Europe going open source, I'm not sure when it will reach the states | Oct 13 11:21 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: patents cripple Microsoft from supporting massive numbers of users. | Oct 13 11:21 |
| oiaohm | On a single machine. | Oct 13 11:21 |
| iophk | I thought it was also M$ own architecture that failed in its design. | Oct 13 11:22 |
| gulag2013 | Oh, this is getting sticky. I had no idea it was this involved with patents | Oct 13 11:22 |
| oiaohm | iophk: NT core design is solid. What was done to it in the name of performace ruined it. | Oct 13 11:22 |
| iophk | There were other add ons that prevent the "official" security model from working IIRC | Oct 13 11:23 |
| oiaohm | iophk: Dave Cutler did the core design of OpenVMS and NT. Both core designs are solid. | Oct 13 11:25 |
| oiaohm | iophk: basically having a solid core design does not mean you cannot employ other idiots and ruin it. | Oct 13 11:25 |
| iophk | Yes, but that was in the 90's Hasn't everything else been garbage since then? That was my impression. | Oct 13 11:25 |
| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer | Oct 13 11:26 |
| DaemonFC | 4 minutes ago | Oct 13 11:26 |
| DaemonFC | Golden Graham treats and Diet Pepsi. Breakfast of champions. It's gonna be a good day. | Oct 13 11:26 |
| oiaohm | iophk:Some things done to vista were correcting historic design faults. | Oct 13 11:27 |
| oiaohm | iophk: mostly currect the modern stuff has garbage. There have been handful of bright spark correct alteratiosn to the NT line. | Oct 13 11:27 |
| oiaohm | iophk: compared to the Linux kernel that has many true bright spart correct alterations every year Windows is doing horible badly. | Oct 13 11:28 |
| DaemonFC | I always wondered why old people drive their Crown Vics at 20 mph. | Oct 13 11:28 |
| DaemonFC | I get it now. | Oct 13 11:28 |
| DaemonFC | It's so they can spend more time in their Crown Vics. | Oct 13 11:28 |
| DaemonFC | Damned government CAFE standards killed the Vic. | Oct 13 11:29 |
| DaemonFC | I don't know why Ford couldn't just put the DOHC 3.7 V6 in it. | Oct 13 11:29 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: the other is not having the money to rebush the steering. | Oct 13 11:30 |
| DaemonFC | ? | Oct 13 11:31 |
| DaemonFC | The steering in this car is phenomenal! | Oct 13 11:31 |
| DaemonFC | Best steering out of any car I've ever owned. | Oct 13 11:31 |
| DaemonFC | Rear wheel drive + power steering = best steering ever. | Oct 13 11:31 |
| MinceR | 122118 < oiaohm> KSM in Linux kernel that does same page matching to reduce ram usage under Linux is protected by a vmware patent. So windows does not have this feature. | Oct 13 11:32 |
| DaemonFC | I went to Walmart earlier to get some for sale signs for the Taurus and some odds and ends. | Oct 13 11:32 |
| MinceR | then they could support more users, they just needed more RAM, could they not? | Oct 13 11:32 |
| DaemonFC | I was cruising through the parking lot steering with one finger. | Oct 13 11:32 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: the steering is phenomenal until th car has bad muches. | Oct 13 11:32 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: how widespread is odometer fraud in the usa? | Oct 13 11:32 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: muches/bushes on the control roods. | Oct 13 11:32 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, It's common enough that it's still a major problem. | Oct 13 11:33 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: MS does not have the feature at all. Result is massively more ram consumion per users. | Oct 13 11:33 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: I am not talking a small difference. | Oct 13 11:33 |
| DaemonFC | The mechanical odometers were designed to break apart if people tried to roll them back with a drill/driver or something. | Oct 13 11:33 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: they say you can't sell a car in hungary without it so there's no point in looking at the odometer | Oct 13 11:33 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: ic | Oct 13 11:33 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: Like you can fit over 100 users on Linux in 16 G of ram. | Oct 13 11:33 |
| DaemonFC | The only way to cheat those in late model cars is to disconnect them, which loses the speedometer too. | Oct 13 11:33 |
| DaemonFC | So most people don't do it. | Oct 13 11:33 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: and most of the time not be using swap. | Oct 13 11:34 |
| DaemonFC | The digital ones can be faked in about five minutes by reprogramming the computer. | Oct 13 11:34 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Oct 13 11:34 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: i thought they just rolled them forward until they overflowed to 0 and then some | Oct 13 11:34 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: windows you would be luckly with Window 7/8 to get 16 users in 16G of ram. | Oct 13 11:34 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, If you roll them forward and they pass 999999, they break apart. | Oct 13 11:34 |
| DaemonFC | Then you have to get a title that says EXCEEDS MECHANICAL LIMITS. | Oct 13 11:34 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 13 11:34 |
| MinceR | ic | Oct 13 11:34 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, It's so uncommon for a person to drive a vehicle past 999999 that it's not a major problem. | Oct 13 11:35 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 13 11:35 |
| MinceR | :) | Oct 13 11:35 |
| oiaohm | Not all odometers break when you cross the max. | Oct 13 11:36 |
| DaemonFC | My Crown Vic has 94,800 on it right now. | Oct 13 11:36 |
| oiaohm | Most do. | Oct 13 11:36 |
| DaemonFC | My Precious! | Oct 13 11:36 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Oct 13 11:36 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I'm not afraid of driving an older car as long as they've kept the maintenance logs and had it garaged. | Oct 13 11:37 |
| DaemonFC | As long as it's low miles for the year. | Oct 13 11:37 |
| DaemonFC | This is actually the lowest mileage of any vehicle I've ever bought. | Oct 13 11:37 |
| DaemonFC | The Taurus has 113,500 on it when I bought it in 2005. | Oct 13 11:38 |
| DaemonFC | *had | Oct 13 11:38 |
| DaemonFC | It has 143,433 on it right now. | Oct 13 11:38 |
| DaemonFC | I've only driven it about 30,000 miles in 8 years. | Oct 13 11:38 |
| DaemonFC | but those were some hard miles | Oct 13 11:39 |
| DaemonFC | I have kind of a lead foot. | Oct 13 11:39 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: I had 1 truck that did end up wrong did not dispaly EXCEEDS MECHANICAL LIMITS jamed at 00000001 | Oct 13 11:39 |
| DaemonFC | and I've gone off the road once | Oct 13 11:40 |
| DaemonFC | at like 70 mph | Oct 13 11:40 |
| DaemonFC | into a field | Oct 13 11:40 |
| DaemonFC | and I've gone into the air a few times and landed | Oct 13 11:40 |
| DaemonFC | and driven into a building | Oct 13 11:40 |
| DaemonFC | and some....err....other stuff | Oct 13 11:40 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: so you would be good fun to put in a bush basher. | Oct 13 11:41 |
| DaemonFC | The Taurus has held up quite well considering what I've done to it. | Oct 13 11:41 |
| DaemonFC | If I can find someone to buy it that has no idea how I drive, that would be great. | Oct 13 11:41 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 13 11:41 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: http://www.rollaclub.com/board/uploads/1220080609/med_gallery_958_72_294332.jpg << I guess it does not look like this yet. | Oct 13 11:43 |
| DaemonFC | There's no reason why we need to keep running vehicles on gasoline or move to crappy 4 cylinder engines. | Oct 13 11:43 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: Australian bush bashers end of life for highly abused cars. | Oct 13 11:43 |
| DaemonFC | They made a natural gas version of the Crown Vic. | Oct 13 11:43 |
| DaemonFC | Why can't they just switch cars over to natural gas and keep making real cars? | Oct 13 11:43 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: your driving would not worry them. | Oct 13 11:44 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: how do most Australian bush bashers end life wrapped around tree. | Oct 13 11:44 |
| DaemonFC | Some guy sent me an email from Craiglist about the Taurus. | Oct 13 11:45 |
| DaemonFC | "trade you a mini van for it" | Oct 13 11:45 |
| DaemonFC | uhhhm, no | Oct 13 11:45 |
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| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer | Oct 13 12:00 |
| DaemonFC | 2 seconds ago | Oct 13 12:00 |
| DaemonFC | Time to swap out your kittens for a big block Jabba Cat. | Oct 13 12:00 |
| DaemonFC | What does the Jabba Cat eat? Anything it wants. He's the great white shark that never had to evolve. | Oct 13 12:00 |
| DaemonFC | He might look like a sweet kitten, but he will hunt your foot the second he thinks your not looking. | Oct 13 12:00 |
| DaemonFC | BRRROWWW! | Oct 13 12:00 |
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| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer | Oct 13 12:10 |
| DaemonFC | 2 seconds ago | Oct 13 12:10 |
| DaemonFC | So I got a bunch of texts from a guy on Craigslist that says he wanted to come by yesterday morning to look at the Taurus. So I clean it really good, and he never shows. | Oct 13 12:10 |
| DaemonFC | Then I got a email from a guy that wanted to trade me for a minivan that's had the crap beaten out of it. | Oct 13 12:10 |
| DaemonFC | Then I get a bunch of emails from another guy on Craigslist that basically wants me to give him the car. | Oct 13 12:11 |
| DaemonFC | From: Andrew Hamilton: | Oct 13 12:11 |
| DaemonFC | To: Me | Oct 13 12:11 |
| DaemonFC | Subject: 1995 Ford Taurus | Oct 13 12:11 |
| DaemonFC | What's the lowest you would go? | Oct 13 12:11 |
| DaemonFC | http://fortwayne.craigslist.org/cto/4122237737.html | Oct 13 12:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | fortwayne.craigslist.org | 1995 Ford Taurus GL with 143,433 miles [ http://ur1.ca/fvqq4 ] | Oct 13 12:11 |
| DaemonFC | Sent from my iPad | Oct 13 12:11 |
| DaemonFC | From: Me | Oct 13 12:11 |
| DaemonFC | To: Andrew Hamilton | Oct 13 12:11 |
| DaemonFC | Make me an offer. | Oct 13 12:11 |
| DaemonFC | From: Andrew Hamilton | Oct 13 12:11 |
| DaemonFC | To: Me | Oct 13 12:11 |
| DaemonFC | 600 | Oct 13 12:11 |
| DaemonFC | Sent from my iPhone | Oct 13 12:11 |
| DaemonFC | From: Me | Oct 13 12:11 |
| DaemonFC | To: Andrew Hamilton | Oct 13 12:11 |
| DaemonFC | So you have an iPhone and an iPad, and you want my car for $600? Way to go dude. Next time, go with Android and you'll have enough money for more than a bicycle. Enjoy walking. | Oct 13 12:11 |
| DaemonFC | ------ | Oct 13 12:11 |
| DaemonFC | "The only thing worse than Apple is people who like their products." | Oct 13 12:11 |
| DaemonFC | I have three cars right now, which is one more than I really want. | Oct 13 12:11 |
| DaemonFC | I'm allowed two parking spots, so the crappiest vehicle I have is up for sale from in front of my mom's house. | Oct 13 12:12 |
| DaemonFC | I'd like to get enough out of the Taurus GL to do a tune up on the Crown Vic and some minor repairs. | Oct 13 12:12 |
| DaemonFC | (nothing major, just some odds and ends I noticed before I bought it) | Oct 13 12:12 |
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| DaemonFC | https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/p480x480/165927_287699608039891_1675664425_n.jpg | Oct 13 12:42 |
| DaemonFC | ewww | Oct 13 12:42 |
| DaemonFC | lol | Oct 13 12:42 |
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| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer | Oct 13 13:42 |
| DaemonFC | First Ford cancels all vehicles with a V8 and then they let Microsoft into the car. | Oct 13 13:42 |
| DaemonFC | #whyidrivea1996 | Oct 13 13:43 |
| DaemonFC | http://images4.fanpop.com/image/photos/16200000/demotivational-random-16267135-1044-835.jpg | Oct 13 13:44 |
| DaemonFC | https://lh3.ggpht.com/-WD__CWVkxTY/TadVoe3gkpI/AAAAAAAAA1Y/CqqYs_ERaRs/s400/demotivational+poster+Fat+Emo.jpg | Oct 13 13:45 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.demotivationalposters.org/image/demotivational-poster/0905/travel-australia-australia-demotivational-poster-1242352192.jpg | Oct 13 13:49 |
| DaemonFC | http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2010/087/7/2/Dead_Pakistani_Demotivational_by_Joza1994.jpg | Oct 13 13:59 |
| iophk | More smears : http://yro.slashdot.org/story/13/10/13/0237210/could-snowden-have-been-stopped-in-2009 | Oct 13 14:02 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | yro.slashdot.org | Could Snowden Have Been Stopped In 2009? - Slashdot [ http://ur1.ca/fvrfi ] | Oct 13 14:02 |
| iophk | http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/10/doj-if-we-can-track-one-american-we-can-track-all-americans/ | Oct 13 14:09 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | arstechnica.com | DoJ: If we can track one American, we can track all Americans | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/fvrhg ] | Oct 13 14:09 |
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| iophk | Meego gets a mention, but otherwise a bit of revisionism going on, trying to shift blame off M$ Elop | Oct 13 15:33 |
| iophk | http://www.osnews.com/story/27370/This_is_how_a_Finnish_journalist_tried_to_save_Nokia | Oct 13 15:33 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.osnews.com | This is how a Finnish journalist tried to save Nokia [ http://ur1.ca/fvrx8 ] | Oct 13 15:33 |
| Sosumi | arrh Snowden, if only he had revealed something that wasn't already known | Oct 13 15:40 |
| Sosumi | well at least he gave the specific names of the programs/units, but meh | Oct 13 15:41 |
| iophk | Specifics were valuable as was official confirmation. | Oct 13 15:43 |
| Sosumi | but unfortunately it didn't change much | Oct 13 15:46 |
| Sosumi | well, anything | Oct 13 15:46 |
| Sosumi | ppl are still trowing their private lifes on the snoopnetworks | Oct 13 15:46 |
| Sosumi | and using "zee" cloud services instead of being resposible for their data | Oct 13 15:47 |
| Sosumi | and since we're nearing november... | Oct 13 15:49 |
| Sosumi | I wander how many'll buy the new M$ snoopbox | Oct 13 15:49 |
| iophk | Few. The last batch went off to the recycling centers for reclamation. | Oct 13 15:50 |
| Sosumi | with it's always listening snoopcamera that can also be used to get info on many users are present in the room or measure reactions when playing games, detect heartbeat, etc, etc | Oct 13 15:51 |
| Sosumi | :) | Oct 13 15:52 |
| Sosumi | at least $ony as much as I dislike them, didn't go that route | Oct 13 15:52 |
| iophk | No but their behavior hasn't been good. | Oct 13 15:52 |
| iophk | They went out of their way to reneg on the "other OS" capability | Oct 13 15:53 |
| iophk | Some people did actually buy PS3's because of that option. | Oct 13 15:53 |
| Sosumi | TOUCHÉ | Oct 13 15:53 |
| Sosumi | I actually wanted to build a small ps3 cluster | Oct 13 15:53 |
| Sosumi | back then, glad I didn't pull the trigger | Oct 13 15:53 |
| iophk | Yes then there were institutional buyers that were building cellclusters | Oct 13 15:53 |
| Sosumi | yep | Oct 13 15:54 |
| Sosumi | there are videos on MIT opencourseware showing that | Oct 13 15:54 |
| iophk | All kinds of computationally intensive research was starting to happen on PS3 clustrers. | Oct 13 15:54 |
| iophk | There were even some medical and physics breakthroughs. | Oct 13 15:54 |
| Sosumi | but $sony decided to kill the functionality, very dumb, not to mention the other issues | Oct 13 15:56 |
| Sosumi | sending credit card and login credentials as plain test | Oct 13 15:56 |
| iophk | Probably had some from M$ on the inside to help push that decisino | Oct 13 15:57 |
| iophk | Yellow Dog seems to have been replaced by Fixstars, but the new site is corporate market babble http://www.fixstars.com/en/ | Oct 13 15:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.fixstars.com | Fixstars - A leading multi-core software development company | Oct 13 15:58 |
| Sosumi | I think it was mostly because ppl had found a way to get access to the gpu and the platform keys deal | Oct 13 15:59 |
| Sosumi | well fixstars has always been behind yellowdog | Oct 13 16:02 |
| Sosumi | even before cell and the ps3 | Oct 13 16:02 |
| Sosumi | it's a power pc distro based on rhel | Oct 13 16:02 |
| iophk | https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/community/osor/news/discriminatory-procurement-specifications-widespread | Oct 13 16:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | joinup.ec.europa.eu | 'Discriminatory procurement specifications widespread' | Joinup [ http://ur1.ca/fvs5q ] | Oct 13 16:14 |
| Sosumi | the Union of European Socialist States is in cahoots with big business anyways | Oct 13 16:18 |
| iophk | They've been doing illegal tenders for as long as they've been buying computers, maybe longer | Oct 13 16:19 |
| Sosumi | and that also aplies to regional governments thx to M$ bribes and what nots | Oct 13 16:20 |
| iophk | from top to bottom according to reports over the years | Oct 13 16:20 |
| iophk | nothing has improved yet | Oct 13 16:20 |
| Sosumi | like the magalhães program here in portugal | Oct 13 16:20 |
| Sosumi | intel classmate + winblows+office | Oct 13 16:21 |
| Sosumi | with the taxpayer footing the bill | Oct 13 16:21 |
| iophk | The Australian government has been paying people to use Windows | Oct 13 16:22 |
| iophk | http://www.lifehacker.com.au/2012/07/doing-tax-on-your-mac-you-could-claim-windows-as-a-deduction/ | Oct 13 16:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.lifehacker.com.au | Doing Tax On Your Mac? You Could Claim Windows As A Deduction | Lifehacker Australia [ http://ur1.ca/fvs6o ] | Oct 13 16:22 |
| Sosumi | all also thx to revolving door between private and public sector between the then minister mario lino and JP Sá Couto | Oct 13 16:22 |
| Sosumi | techrights has articles about that | Oct 13 16:23 |
| Sosumi | http://techrights.org/2010/03/18/magalhaes-microsoft-corruption/ | Oct 13 16:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | techrights.org | Magalhães + Microsoft = Corruption | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/fvs6u ] | Oct 13 16:24 |
| Sosumi | also as a note, magalhães may have provided dual boot, but no unit that I saw came with Caixa Mágica distro | Oct 13 16:25 |
| Sosumi | http://techrights.org/2009/07/01/inci-procurement-microsoft/ | Oct 13 16:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | techrights.org | Government of Portugal Ignores Procurement Rules and Gives Taxpayers’ Money to Microsoft | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/fvs7b ] | Oct 13 16:25 |
| Sosumi | yay, my money at work | Oct 13 16:26 |
| Sosumi | http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-10-13/guest-post-they%E2%80%99re-coming-your-savings | Oct 13 17:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.zerohedge.com | Guest Post: They’re Coming For Your Savings | Zero Hedge [ http://ur1.ca/fvsmv ] | Oct 13 17:41 |
| Sosumi | in a perfect world, they are coming for your debt | Oct 13 17:42 |
| Sosumi | debt reset, yeppiii, not, lol | Oct 13 17:42 |
| Sosumi | although I don't own anything to anyone | Oct 13 17:43 |
| Sosumi | but that seems to be one of the ways to balance the system | Oct 13 17:43 |
| Sosumi | have the big boys take a haircut | Oct 13 17:43 |
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| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer | Oct 13 18:15 |
| DaemonFC | 2 seconds ago | Oct 13 18:15 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft is getting rid of Ballmer and possibly Gates. Rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. #usegnulinux | Oct 13 18:15 |
| DaemonFC | Good time for another ode to the odious proprietary malware company. | Oct 13 18:15 |
| DaemonFC | I've got an idea for the next BSOD. | Oct 13 18:15 |
| DaemonFC | "Your computer has experienced a problem and needs to restart. Please wait a moment while we upload more of your files to the NSA. Thank you." | Oct 13 18:15 |
| DaemonFC | I guess that's how they got a free pass from the DoJ to run their "illegal operation" that should have been "shut down". | Oct 13 18:15 |
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| Sosumi | :) | Oct 13 18:33 |
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| MinceR | http://www.devttys0.com/2013/10/reverse-engineering-a-d-link-backdoor/ | Oct 13 18:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.devttys0.com | Reverse Engineering a D-Link Backdoor - /dev/ttyS0 [ http://ur1.ca/fvt2e ] | Oct 13 18:54 |
| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmerposted toFord Motor Company | Oct 13 19:42 |
| DaemonFC | a few seconds ago | Oct 13 19:42 |
| DaemonFC | Dear Ford, | Oct 13 19:42 |
| DaemonFC | Please bring back the Crown Victoria and remove Microsoft from your cars. | Oct 13 19:42 |
| DaemonFC | kthxbai | Oct 13 19:42 |
| MinceR | they'd also need to get rid of the idiots who thought putting m$ in a car was a good idea in the first place | Oct 13 19:48 |
| MinceR | those are not engineers. | Oct 13 19:48 |
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| Sosumi | just give me a ford siera cosworth | Oct 13 19:49 |
| Sosumi | probably my favourite ford | Oct 13 19:49 |
| Sosumi | but I didn't know ford had M$ in their cars :( | Oct 13 19:50 |
| Sosumi | pretty much all those integrated distraction centers in cars run gnu/linux with some car manufacturer shell on top | Oct 13 19:52 |
| Sosumi | I think, lawl | Oct 13 19:52 |
| Sosumi | it'd be a mistake not to | Oct 13 19:52 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHQ-FB6lm68 | Oct 13 20:13 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.youtube.com | 2011 Ford Crown Victoria 0-60MPH!!! - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/fvtic ] | Oct 13 20:13 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtXb_tpa5ts | Oct 13 20:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.youtube.com | supercharged vic takeoff - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/fvtii ] | Oct 13 20:14 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 13 20:14 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzdI2vCW75o | Oct 13 20:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.youtube.com | Decoy police car teardown and tow away...ONE guy! - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/fvtin ] | Oct 13 20:15 |
| DaemonFC | LOL | Oct 13 20:15 |
| DaemonFC | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-occupancy_vehicle_lane | Oct 13 20:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | en.wikipedia.org | High-occupancy vehicle lane - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/fvtk1 ] | Oct 13 20:22 |
| DaemonFC | In January 2013, a motorist tried to claim that the Articles of Incorporation of his business — which had been placed unbuckled on the driver’s seat, constituted a person, citing the principle of corporate personhood and California's state Vehicle Code, which defines a person as “natural persons and corporations.” This argument was subsequently rejected in Traffic court, which commented that | Oct 13 20:22 |
| DaemonFC | "Common sense says carrying a sheath of papers in the front seat does not relieve traffic congestion."[44] | Oct 13 20:22 |
| DaemonFC | LOL | Oct 13 20:22 |
| Sosumi | lulz | Oct 13 20:23 |
| MinceR | lol | Oct 13 20:26 |
| MinceR | republicans do keep claiming that corporations are people | Oct 13 20:27 |
| DaemonFC | The Crown Victoria is the Chuck Norris of cars. | Oct 13 20:29 |
| DaemonFC | They stopped improving them in 2004 because there was no way to make them better after that point. | Oct 13 20:29 |
| MinceR | an overrated fundie? | Oct 13 20:29 |
| DaemonFC | well, there's the idiot and the meme. | Oct 13 20:29 |
| DaemonFC | you know? | Oct 13 20:29 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 13 20:29 |
| MinceR | yes, there's the idiot and the meme about the idiot | Oct 13 20:30 |
| DaemonFC | Well, I was referring to the meme. | Oct 13 20:30 |
| DaemonFC | http://money.cnn.com/2011/09/15/autos/last_crown_victoria/index.htm | Oct 13 20:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | money.cnn.com | Ford's last Crown Victoria rolls off the line - Sep. 15, 2011 [ http://ur1.ca/fvtle ] | Oct 13 20:31 |
| DaemonFC | Then they fired everyone at the plant and told them to get their shit and go home. | Oct 13 20:31 |
| MinceR | Chuck Norris does not sleep. He's worrying about gay marriage. | Oct 13 20:31 |
| MinceR | There is no chin behind Chuck Norris’ beard. There is only the quivering fear of gay marriage. | Oct 13 20:31 |
| DaemonFC | I don't see a reason why you discontinue something that's in demand like that. | Oct 13 20:32 |
| DaemonFC | Other than the government regulations on fuel economy. | Oct 13 20:32 |
| MinceR | chuck norris believes pi=3 | Oct 13 20:32 |
| DaemonFC | In Indiana, Pi was 3.14 by law until someone realized that you couldn't fine or imprison a circle for refusing to turn itself into Pac Man. | Oct 13 20:33 |
| DaemonFC | Not the brightest lawmakers, even by American standards. | Oct 13 20:33 |
| DaemonFC | but, they represent the public who voted them in | Oct 13 20:34 |
| MinceR | fundie lawmakers are never bright | Oct 13 20:34 |
| MinceR | if they were bright, they wouldn't be fundies | Oct 13 20:34 |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.snopes.com/autos/law/carpool.asp | Oct 13 21:20 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.snopes.com | snopes.com: Carpool Lane Scams [ http://ur1.ca/fvtti ] | Oct 13 21:20 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: https://ribanc.com/files/tumblr_mg5933T1O11rogwl3o1_1280.jpg | Oct 13 21:43 |
| Sosumi | hilarious | Oct 13 21:49 |
| Sosumi | who did that deserves a medal | Oct 13 21:49 |
| Sosumi | must do one with balmer as the rancor monster dead under the metal door | Oct 13 22:03 |
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| Sosumi | or sebsebseb, riding a sandworm from Dune :P | Oct 13 22:04 |
| DaemonFC | http://boingboing.net/2013/10/11/vatican-spells-jesus-wrong-on.html | Oct 13 22:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | boingboing.net | NO TITLE [ http://ur1.ca/fvu6o ] | Oct 13 22:43 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I just topped off the Vic. | Oct 13 22:43 |
| DaemonFC | Just to see what mileage I was getting. | Oct 13 22:43 |
| DaemonFC | 22 mpg | Oct 13 22:43 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 13 22:43 |
| MinceR | lol @ vatican | Oct 13 22:44 |
| Sosumi | value added tax in a can? | Oct 13 22:45 |
| MinceR | :) | Oct 13 22:45 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3167704 | Oct 13 22:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: [](https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=770661752950797&set=a.715704285113211.1073741846.290897664260544&type=1&theater)<br> - <br><br> | Oct 13 22:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.facebook.com | Timeline Photos | Facebook [ http://ur1.ca/fvu7d ] | Oct 13 22:46 |
| MinceR | :) | Oct 13 22:46 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: did you expect it to not guzzle gas? :> | Oct 13 22:47 |
| Sosumi | macosforge | Oct 13 22:49 |
| Sosumi | it even tells you hot to stop smoking | Oct 13 22:49 |
| Sosumi | http://darwinbuild.macosforge.org/trac/ticket/139 | Oct 13 22:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | darwinbuild.macosforge.org | #139 (How to quit smoking in a effective way) – DarwinBuild [ http://ur1.ca/fvu80 ] | Oct 13 22:50 |
| Sosumi | fail | Oct 13 22:50 |
| MinceR | maybe it's because crApple refuses warranty if you smoke near the idiot box | Oct 13 22:50 |
| Sosumi | maybe :P | Oct 13 22:50 |
| MinceR | or it's just spam :> | Oct 13 22:50 |
| Sosumi | but it's nice to see some life in the wasteland called macosforge | Oct 13 22:51 |
| Sosumi | that and the apparently defunct x11 port | Oct 13 22:53 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2963359 | Oct 13 22:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Silent Circle is probably moving to #switzerland for #privacy http://www.forbes.com/sites/parmyolson/2013/08/09/e-mails-big-privacy-problem-qa-with-silent-circle-co-founder-phil-zimmermann/ trend: freedom fighters now escape the US | Oct 13 22:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.forbes.com | E-mail's Big Privacy Problem: Q&A With Silent Circle Co-Founder Phil Zimmermann - Forbes [ http://ur1.ca/f3tp9 ] | Oct 13 22:53 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "The Swiss will give up anything asked for if it comes to the crunch, it's the only reason they are still independent" | Oct 13 22:53 |
| Sosumi | mac in academia is finally dead = br00liant! | Oct 13 22:54 |
| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer Without men, civilization would continue until the next oil change was needed. | Oct 13 23:07 |
| DaemonFC | Like · Reply · a few seconds ago | Oct 13 23:07 |
| DaemonFC | <MinceR> DaemonFC: did you expect it to not guzzle gas? :> | Oct 13 23:07 |
| DaemonFC | Guzzle gas? 21 mpg is awesome for mostly city driving with a 4.6 V8. | Oct 13 23:08 |
| DaemonFC | It's getting better mileage than my Taurus. | Oct 13 23:08 |
| MinceR | well yes, for a 4.6 V8 | Oct 13 23:08 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Smaller engines can actually be less efficient in some cases. | Oct 13 23:08 |
| MinceR | yet apparently they aren't :> | Oct 13 23:09 |
| DaemonFC | Like when you're trying to accelerate quickly and they're struggling to do it. | Oct 13 23:09 |
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| MinceR | gn | Oct 14 01:05 |
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| DaemonFC | Sold the Taurus. | Oct 14 02:55 |
| DaemonFC | I have money now. Yay! | Oct 14 02:55 |
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| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3170328 | Oct 14 08:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Size of Africa in perspective https://joindiaspora.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/images/scaled_full_50ec65581e66f2c000c2.png | Oct 14 08:28 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "They could have left off Spain and France had they included Alaska." | Oct 14 08:28 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | But Alaska - like both Canada and Russia - is scarcely populated and barely inhabitable half the year. | Oct 14 08:29 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3165178 | Oct 14 08:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: You know the world is going in the wrong direction when 1984 is no longer fiction and people can no longer ridicule RMS without challenge. | Oct 14 08:30 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "Sir... I challenge you to a duel of fisticuffs, behind the servants quarters, henceforth!" | Oct 14 08:30 |
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| MinceR | r4wr | Oct 14 09:27 |
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| iophk | Maybe they've been hiring too many from M$ | Oct 14 10:43 |
| iophk | http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2425512,00.asp | Oct 14 10:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.pcmag.com | iPhone 5s Users Seeing 'Blue Screen of Death' | News & Opinion | PCMag.com [ http://ur1.ca/fvymj ] | Oct 14 10:43 |
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| iophk | http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/apple/iphone/10376845/iPhone-5s-users-report-Blue-Screen-Of-Death-crashes.html | Oct 14 10:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.telegraph.co.uk | iPhone 5s users report 'Blue Screen Of Death' crashes - Telegraph [ http://ur1.ca/fvyoi ] | Oct 14 10:49 |
| iophk | http://torrentfreak.com/fact-releases-video-of-file-sharing-site-home-visit-and-domain-grab-131014/ | Oct 14 10:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | torrentfreak.com | FACT Releases Video of File-Sharing Site Home Visit and Domain Grab | TorrentFreak [ http://ur1.ca/fvypr ] | Oct 14 10:53 |
| iophk | This is so much harder with T B-L on the wrong side of the fight. | Oct 14 10:57 |
| iophk | http://blogs.computerworlduk.com/open-enterprise/2013/10/tim-berners-lee-on-why-html5-needs-drm/index.htm | Oct 14 10:57 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | blogs.computerworlduk.com | Tim Berners-Lee on Why HTML5 "Needs" DRM - Open Enterprise [ http://ur1.ca/fvyqq ] | Oct 14 10:57 |
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| iophk | http://ia801008.us.archive.org/7/items/OhioLinuxfest2013/ | Oct 14 11:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | ia801008.us.archive.org | Index of /7/items/OhioLinuxfest2013/ [ http://ur1.ca/fvyv0 ] | Oct 14 11:17 |
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| iophk | http://ia801008.us.archive.org/7/items/OhioLinuxfest2013/16-Ian_Santopietro-BIOS_UEFI.spx | Oct 14 12:03 |
| iophk | Several of the presentations seem to be practicing appeasement towards M$. No one seems to learn from watching what has happened in the past to everyone else who tried that. | Oct 14 12:04 |
| MinceR | http://i.crackedcdn.com/phpimages/photoshop/2/6/0/209260_slide.jpg | Oct 14 12:04 |
| iophk | I once preached peaceful coexistence with Windows. You may laugh at my expense. I deserve it." | Oct 14 12:05 |
| iophk | http://www.itpro.co.uk/624070/haiku-reason-to-believe | Oct 14 12:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.itpro.co.uk | Haiku: Reason to believe | IT PRO [ http://ur1.ca/2cijc ] | Oct 14 12:05 |
| iophk | http://www.birdhouse.org/beos/byte/30-bootloader/ | Oct 14 12:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.birdhouse.org | He Who Controls the Bootloader [ http://ur1.ca/gdhk ] | Oct 14 12:05 |
| iophk | The guy from System76 should know better, especially given how little UEFI really does for actual security. | Oct 14 12:06 |
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| iophk | http://ia801008.us.archive.org/7/items/OhioLinuxfest2013/19-Jon_maddog_Hall-GNU_Linux_Around_the_World.spx | Oct 14 13:06 |
| iophk | Maddog's talk is interesting but I can't help but notice that he misses RMS point on differentiating between trademark, copyright and patents. | Oct 14 13:08 |
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| schestowitz_bed2 | Interewsting bio, CNET there a;sp" https://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=5516664&authType=name&authToken=tCY-&trk=miniprofile-primary-view-button | Oct 14 13:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.linkedin.com | Join LinkedIn | LinkedIn [ http://ur1.ca/fvzoa ] | Oct 14 13:43 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | www.linkedin.com/pub/rick-lehrbaum/1/a20/620/ | Oct 14 13:44 |
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| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/i/redirect?url=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2Fhgfernan%2Fstatus%2F389747753200254976&sig=d2e90abc58d8ee3dc12c13aed1dcd75f48eca904&uid=26603208&iid=8fcb6134-0714-486f-9d85-b5ff6c23b3ff&nid=27+1267&t=1 | Oct 14 14:45 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | twitter.com | NO TITLE [ http://ur1.ca/fw01m ] | Oct 14 14:45 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/hgfernan/status/389747753200254976 | Oct 14 14:45 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @hgfernan: .@schestowitz The nomination of #techrights for https://t.co/WMkAutML93 is much deserved. Good luck ! | Oct 14 14:45 |
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| iophk | http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2013-10/14/brazil-email-nsahttp://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2300375/edward-snowden-says-the-nsa-is-hurting-the-us | Oct 14 16:09 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | ( status 500 @ http://www.wired.co.uk/_error-friendly/500.asp?aspxerrorpath=/news/archive/2013-10/14/brazil-email-nsahttp:/www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2300375/edward-snowden-says-the-nsa-is-hurting-the-us ) | Oct 14 16:09 |
| iophk | http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2300375/edward-snowden-says-the-nsa-is-hurting-the-us | Oct 14 16:09 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.theinquirer.net | Edward Snowden says the NSA is hurting the US- The Inquirer [ http://ur1.ca/fw0lq ] | Oct 14 16:09 |
| iophk | http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2013-10/14/brazil-email-nsa | Oct 14 16:09 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.wired.co.uk | Brazilian President tweets about new national email, continues anti-NSA rhetoric (Wired UK) [ http://ur1.ca/fw0ls ] | Oct 14 16:09 |
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| MinceR | https://scontent-b-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/1375154_10201559501721717_79698421_n.jpg | Oct 14 16:45 |
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| iophk | http://www.france24.com/en/20131014-radiation-experts-confirm-polonium-arafat-clothing | Oct 14 20:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.france24.com | Radiation experts confirm polonium on Arafat clothing - FRANCE 24 [ http://ur1.ca/fw29g ] | Oct 14 20:14 |
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| MinceR | http://op-co.de/blog/posts/android_ssl_downgrade/ | Oct 14 23:36 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | op-co.de | Why Android SSL was downgraded from AES256-SHA to RC4-MD5 in late 2010 [ http://ur1.ca/fw3c5 ] | Oct 14 23:36 |
| MinceR | gn | Oct 15 00:05 |
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| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer | Oct 15 03:59 |
| DaemonFC | Saw the funniest thing in my life at Walmart tonight. Some guy in a NICE Ford F-350 was honking at Dave and me to get out of his way. When we got to the door, he revved up the engine, peeled out, and turned right into a parking lot post. I heard him shout "F***!". | Oct 15 03:59 |
| DaemonFC | Then he backed up, and hit it again, and busted out his rear window. | Oct 15 03:59 |
| DaemonFC | Like · · Share · 2 minutes ago · | Oct 15 03:59 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 15 04:00 |
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| amarsh04 | http://www.wired.com/opinion/2013/10/a-necessary-evil-what-it-takes-for-democracy-to-survive-surveillance/ | Oct 15 04:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.wired.com | Stallman: How Much Surveillance Can Democracy Withstand? | Wired Opinion | Wired.com [ http://ur1.ca/fw4y7 ] | Oct 15 04:59 |
| Sosumi | hum? democracy? | Oct 15 05:29 |
| Sosumi | democracy is despostism, the majority vs the minority | Oct 15 05:30 |
| Sosumi | nothing beats the good old republic | Oct 15 05:30 |
| DaemonFC | That guy that wrecked his truck at Walmart still has me giggling. | Oct 15 05:32 |
| Sosumi | walwart | Oct 15 05:53 |
| Sosumi | lol | Oct 15 05:53 |
| Sosumi | http://t.co/hZo2rN8QVi | Oct 15 06:09 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @jaredbkeller: This week's @BW cover: unmasking the identity of a Chinese hacker http://t.co/bGkHVY6K | http://t.co/k9JyGkyW | Oct 15 06:09 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.businessweek.com | A Chinese Hacker's Identity Unmasked - Businessweek | Oct 15 06:10 |
| Sosumi | meanwhile in the real world | Oct 15 06:10 |
| Sosumi | http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/10/yep-the-nsa-is-grabbing-your-address-book-contact-lists-too/ | Oct 15 06:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | arstechnica.com | Yep, the NSA is grabbing your address book, contact lists too | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/fw5ba ] | Oct 15 06:11 |
| Sosumi | http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/10/govt-moves-to-keep-nsa-surveillance-lawsuit-away-from-supreme-court/ | Oct 15 06:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | arstechnica.com | Gov’t moves to keep NSA surveillance lawsuit away from Supreme Court | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/fw5bb ] | Oct 15 06:11 |
| DaemonFC | Sosumi, He actually hit that pole three different times in his $50,000 truck. | Oct 15 07:00 |
| DaemonFC | busted out a window and left a pile of glass next to the post. | Oct 15 07:01 |
| DaemonFC | At least a dozen people were staring at him and laughing. | Oct 15 07:01 |
| *DaemonFC is going to bed. | Oct 15 07:01 | |
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| iophk | http://mrpogson.com/2013/10/14/two-teats-on-ms-cash-cow-dry-up/ | Oct 15 07:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | mrpogson.com | Two Teats On M$’s Cash-cow Dry Up | Robert Pogson [ http://ur1.ca/fw5k9 ] | Oct 15 07:19 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3174539 | Oct 15 07:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: UK Ministry of Defence seeks to counter growing opposition to war https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2013/10/14/mod-o14.html the threat of peace leads to war on peace | Oct 15 07:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.wsws.org | UK Ministry of Defence seeks to counter growing opposition to war - World Socialist Web Site [ http://ur1.ca/fw5ka ] | Oct 15 07:19 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | " | Oct 15 07:21 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | WAR - the Elites only means of grabbing other peoples land and resources. | Oct 15 07:21 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Those other peoples land they grab are not just for 1000 elite though - the land should be divided among the many - but it goes to the few - who then sell it back at massive profits to bankers ...... who then distribute the gains as loans ....... demanding more profits on lands and resources stolen from the very people that together owned all of these lands and resources ..... what went wrong with how people let this happen ...... | Oct 15 07:21 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | . the rule of law and force is still kicking people indigenous people off their own lands. | Oct 15 07:21 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Look for any indigenous people left and look at how the elite seem to target them ....... not on our behalf surely ....... the only self sustaining people left on the planet and we need to move them on .... off their lands with any means possible .......... | Oct 15 07:21 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | The people are coming to realize that any WAR is actually now self destructive and just aims at lower class working people. | Oct 15 07:21 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Just as it always did ....... but the History Cycles are slowly but surely showing a trend of transferring the wealth of our own lands to the very rich ........ who we now are starting to see their own GREED is endless ,,,,,,,, just one more war ......... | Oct 15 07:21 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Go on - we Billionaires cannot survive without one more WAR | Oct 15 07:21 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | " | Oct 15 07:21 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | War on war is terrorism now. | Oct 15 07:21 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3172738 | Oct 15 07:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The only "Supreme" thing about the SCOTUS is that it protects the Supreme (multinational mega-corporations) from the majority. | Oct 15 07:22 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "But none of that has anything to do with how SCOTUS operates: they aren't pro- or anti-Big Business; they interpret the law as it's written by congress. Congress is certainly pro-Big Business, but that's got nothing to do with SCOTUS, nor is SCOTUS in a position to fix it." | Oct 15 07:22 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "Individual Justices certainly can be pro-Big business. Many of them have worked for America's biggest businesses. They're not super-people that don't have philosophical biases, otherwise there wouldn't be arguments over who is being nominated for the Supreme Court. There's arguments over nominations precisely because people know they will take that with them to the Court." | Oct 15 07:23 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "Of course individual justices can have biases. But that's not what the OP said." | Oct 15 07:23 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3172740 | Oct 15 07:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The world needs some good leaks from the SCOTUS and DOJ. Any whistleblowers to come forth? | Oct 15 07:24 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "Brad, there have been a great number of leaks surrounding the Supreme Court in history. There have been many notable occasions in which decisions were leaked before they were officially made. Roe v. Wade, the recent Affordable Care Act decision, you just need to look for them and they are there. There is nothing special about the way the court "works" that makes it immune to leaks." | Oct 15 07:24 |
| iophk | https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2013/10/insecurities_in.html | Oct 15 07:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.schneier.com | Schneier on Security: Insecurities in the Linux /dev/random [ http://ur1.ca/fw5l3 ] | Oct 15 07:24 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | " | Oct 15 07:25 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | I didn't say that there was anything in the court making it immune to leaks. | Oct 15 07:25 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | SCOTUS leaks about pending cases aren't the juicy gossip the OP was talking about, I suspect he means something more salacious, conspiratorial, or criminal. And the justices, while certainly colorful, don't work that way. They don't need to: They're lifetime appointee legal scholars; people don't come much duller. They have no remaining aspirations beyond writing decisions: they've achieved the pinnacle for their profession. There | Oct 15 07:25 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | s not much to leak, and little value that hasn't been speculated to death ahead of time. What would a whistleblower uncover? | Oct 15 07:25 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | I've read biographies of half a dozen justices and a big day for most of them involves reading a different newspaper in the morning. | Oct 15 07:25 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Maybe some of the clerks, but they're pretty uptight too. Insider trading is about the only thing that could come of it. Yawn. | Oct 15 07:25 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | " | Oct 15 07:25 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | " | Oct 15 07:25 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Respectfully, I don't think you're thinking this through very well. A "bombshell" SCOTUS leak could, for instance, be a letter or email between a Justice and, say a past business associate whose company or a company they have an investment in that has a case before the Court. | Oct 15 07:25 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Conflict of interest would be the biggest thing that comes to my mind. Or perhaps a Justice being lobbied, which is illegal. What if information was leaked about Justices writing private correspondence containing their opinions on the PATRIOT ACT, or the current state of the FISC? What if a Justice privately wrote a letter expressing their regret at having voted in the majority of Citizens United? | Oct 15 07:25 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Information like that being made public would certainly have larger ramifications in the political discourse. | Oct 15 07:25 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | " | Oct 15 07:25 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | iophk: posted | Oct 15 07:28 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | no randomness means no encryption | Oct 15 07:28 |
| iophk | And trouble even with TCP | Oct 15 07:28 |
| MinceR | it's not exactly "no randomness", though | Oct 15 07:52 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3155208 | Oct 15 07:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Why did #Nvidia cripple its #Linux driver? http://www.itworld.com/open-source/377696/why-did-nvidia-cripple-its-linux-driver #windows | Oct 15 07:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.itworld.com | Why did Nvidia cripple its Linux driver? | ITworld [ http://ur1.ca/fuzuo ] | Oct 15 07:53 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "@Dr. Roy Schestowitz: too bad, and shame on them. Really, Shame on them." | Oct 15 07:53 |
| MinceR | it just means that it will recover relatively slowly from attacks | Oct 15 07:53 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3172587 | Oct 15 07:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared:  | Oct 15 07:53 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "To answer the question above: we are living in such society. Even when what is written here is true, there are otherthings that are not learned unless we go to school. But, I like this. Resharing. :)" | Oct 15 07:53 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3174539 | Oct 15 07:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: UK Ministry of Defence seeks to counter growing opposition to war https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2013/10/14/mod-o14.html the threat of peace leads to war on peace | Oct 15 07:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.wsws.org | UK Ministry of Defence seeks to counter growing opposition to war - World Socialist Web Site [ http://ur1.ca/fw5ka ] | Oct 15 07:55 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | " | Oct 15 07:55 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | It is going to take another 10 years to calm down and only then if people start to realize that it is not for the people. | Oct 15 07:55 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Poor people die ........... poor people die ............ poor people die. | Oct 15 07:55 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | How many Billionaires does it take to screw in a light bulb ....... none ....... they pay others to do any job they want doing - with money they get from the very people doing the jobs in the first place. | Oct 15 07:55 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Odd World ........ | Oct 15 07:55 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | " | Oct 15 07:56 |
| MinceR | rich people die too :> | Oct 15 07:56 |
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| iophk | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/10/15/gates_zuckerberg_to_offer_free_coding_lessons/ | Oct 15 08:10 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.theregister.co.uk | Gates, Zuckerberg, to deliver free coding lesson • The Register [ http://ur1.ca/fw5st ] | Oct 15 08:10 |
| MinceR | like i wanted to learn coding from people who have no idea about it | Oct 15 08:11 |
| MinceR | they should deliver free thieving lessons instead | Oct 15 08:11 |
| iophk | it's about spreading the lock-in | Oct 15 08:11 |
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| MinceR | geekings | Oct 15 09:17 |
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| iophk | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/10/15/snowden_nsa_snooping_hurts_our_economy/ | Oct 15 09:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.theregister.co.uk | Snowden: NSA hits Americans in the WALLET – have I got your attention now? • The Register [ http://ur1.ca/fw6a6 ] | Oct 15 09:53 |
| iophk | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/10/15/oracle_says_open_source_has_no_place_in_military_apps/ | Oct 15 09:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.theregister.co.uk | Oracle says open source has no place in military apps • The Register [ http://ur1.ca/fw6ab ] | Oct 15 09:54 |
| iophk | David A Wheeler or someone else can easily rebut that. | Oct 15 09:54 |
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| MinceR | no opposition candidates are allowed in a current intermediate election in hungary | Oct 15 10:56 |
| MinceR | it's just like communism | Oct 15 10:56 |
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| oiaohm | http://news.slashdot.org/story/13/10/15/0243230/chinas-state-press-calls-for-building-a-de-americanized-world This is not good. | Oct 15 12:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | news.slashdot.org | China's State Press Calls For 'Building a De-Americanized World' - Slashdot [ http://ur1.ca/fw70m ] | Oct 15 12:12 |
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| iophk | oiaohm: it's backlash from the last 2 administrations | Oct 15 12:38 |
| oiaohm | iophk: this plan has been talked about for a while. | Oct 15 12:39 |
| oiaohm | iophk: really its not about last 2 administrations. | Oct 15 12:40 |
| oiaohm | iophk: China can win the War against the USA by money. | Oct 15 12:40 |
| oiaohm | If USD is removed from major international trades like oil. | Oct 15 12:41 |
| oiaohm | USD value can free fall. | Oct 15 12:41 |
| iophk | Wasn't oil threatened to move to the Euro a while back? | Oct 15 12:42 |
| oiaohm | iophk: yes it was. | Oct 15 12:42 |
| oiaohm | The last major USA default. | Oct 15 12:42 |
| oiaohm | Yet the USA has not managed to pay back a single cent but now is even deeper in debt. | Oct 15 12:42 |
| iophk | Eventually there will be no new lenders, everyone will be maxed out. | Oct 15 12:43 |
| iophk | Then the debt-based economy will implode | Oct 15 12:43 |
| iophk | Also, isn't the yuan still tied to the dollar? | Oct 15 12:43 |
| oiaohm | iophk: there are no more lenders that can lend the USA enough money. | Oct 15 12:43 |
| oiaohm | yuan is not tied to the dollar | Oct 15 12:43 |
| iophk | without further lending the current system collapses | Oct 15 12:44 |
| iophk | there shouldn't have been unsustainable borrowing in the first place | Oct 15 12:44 |
| oiaohm | iophk: the yuan was unlocked from the USD in 2010 | Oct 15 12:45 |
| oiaohm | Yes the last debt screw up. | Oct 15 12:45 |
| iophk | And too much money has been used to bail out unprofitable business models | Oct 15 12:46 |
| oiaohm | iophk: it was the EU that put forward the EURO for oil but did not get china support. | Oct 15 12:46 |
| iophk | Why does the government owe certain businesses a guaranteed profit regardless of performance or relevancy to the current market? | Oct 15 12:46 |
| oiaohm | iophk: this is why I say not good. | Oct 15 12:46 |
| oiaohm | We now have the EU and China thinking something simlar. | Oct 15 12:46 |
| oiaohm | Now if they can come up with a unified agreement USA is in the crapper. | Oct 15 12:46 |
| iophk | Both thinking something similar at the same time, now | Oct 15 12:47 |
| iophk | Bush's policies, continued by Obama, have been driving everything and everyone away. | Oct 15 12:47 |
| oiaohm | They are not in 100 percent agreement yet. | Oct 15 12:47 |
| iophk | That's a cut into research, which means 10 −20 years from now a cut in profits. | Oct 15 12:47 |
| oiaohm | USA will lose a lot of things. | Oct 15 12:48 |
| oiaohm | Think about all the payments to farmers not to grow crops and other stupid things. | Oct 15 12:48 |
| iophk | By losing researchers they are losing research centers. | Oct 15 12:48 |
| oiaohm | Like the massive unsold supplied of grains. | Oct 15 12:48 |
| iophk | That topples them from world dominance. | Oct 15 12:48 |
| oiaohm | USA could do quite a big firesale. | Oct 15 12:48 |
| oiaohm | That would cause a fairly large international mess. | Oct 15 12:49 |
| iophk | There are large groups intent on cultivating 3rd world-like conditions inside the US. | Oct 15 12:49 |
| iophk | Largely they are succeeding | Oct 15 12:49 |
| oiaohm | Even doing the firesale the use cannot get enough money. | Oct 15 12:49 |
| iophk | Then you have business ideologies built around tear-down and bankruptcy. | Oct 15 12:49 |
| oiaohm | Heck 2012 the USA was 222 trillion in the read. | Oct 15 12:49 |
| iophk | Now they are applied to governance, like in Detroit. | Oct 15 12:49 |
| oiaohm | read/red | Oct 15 12:49 |
| oiaohm | Just paying 1 percent on 222 trillion is not simple. | Oct 15 12:50 |
| oiaohm | iophk: $52,882.39 per USA cit | Oct 15 12:51 |
| iophk | http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/22/us/politics/us-median-income-rises-but-is-still-6-below-its-2007-peak.html?_r=0 | Oct 15 12:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | myaccount.nytimes.com | Log In - The New York Times [ http://ur1.ca/fw79l ] | Oct 15 12:52 |
| iophk | "Although median annual household income rose to $52,100 in June" | Oct 15 12:52 |
| iophk | That debt is larger than the median annual income. | Oct 15 12:53 |
| iophk | Of course there is also the issue of large corporations not paying much if anything | Oct 15 12:53 |
| oiaohm | iophk: yep that is why it equals screwed. | Oct 15 12:53 |
| oiaohm | Australia is $17,165.49 per cit. | Oct 15 12:53 |
| oiaohm | Bad but workable. | Oct 15 12:54 |
| oiaohm | It would be possible to tax the hell out of Australia for a year and require all it debt. | Oct 15 12:54 |
| oiaohm | iophk: basically the magic line in sand is adverage house hold income. | Oct 15 12:55 |
| iophk | What if M$ payed tax? Then schools and universities could be funded so that skilled engineers can be produced, ending the whine about the "need" for H1B1 | Oct 15 12:55 |
| oiaohm | iophk: Australia population dispoable income a year is $36 082 per person. | Oct 15 12:56 |
| MinceR | m$ would still cause more damage than the tax it pays | Oct 15 12:56 |
| oiaohm | iophk: basically disposable being the ammount of income that you don't need to live. | Oct 15 12:56 |
| iophk | agreed | Oct 15 12:56 |
| iophk | but while it still exists it should be paying taxes | Oct 15 12:57 |
| oiaohm | iophk: so Australia debt level is still fine. | Oct 15 12:57 |
| oiaohm | Its possible for us to pay it. | Oct 15 12:57 |
| oiaohm | USA cits so screwed not funny. | Oct 15 12:57 |
| oiaohm | iophk: the debt level partly explains the massive work in the USA mil to move key systems off Windows to Linux. | Oct 15 12:59 |
| oiaohm | iophk: once national debt is high enough governement cannot print more money unless it want to go into free fall. | Oct 15 13:00 |
| iophk | AFAIK the government is buried deep into M$ and unable to get out. | Oct 15 13:00 |
| iophk | Years ago the Navy was supposed to move to "open systems" but look where they are now still. | Oct 15 13:00 |
| MinceR | they could get out if they wanted | Oct 15 13:00 |
| MinceR | they would eventually have their software rewritten anyway | Oct 15 13:01 |
| oiaohm | In fact core systems are being rewritten. | Oct 15 13:03 |
| oiaohm | Problem it they left it to the 11 hour ie last year. | Oct 15 13:03 |
| oiaohm | To start./ | Oct 15 13:03 |
| oiaohm | In fact what is happening the USA should send a wake up call to a lot of countries. | Oct 15 13:04 |
| oiaohm | Core systems cannot be dependant on payment to operation. | Oct 15 13:04 |
| iophk | Moving away from M$ will save a hell of a lot in the server centers. It will allow great consolidation of hardware. | Oct 15 13:05 |
| oiaohm | iophk: read the write ups on the USA governement clouds. | Oct 15 13:07 |
| oiaohm | iophk: Linux Linux and more Linux | Oct 15 13:07 |
| iophk | About time. | Oct 15 13:07 |
| oiaohm | iophk: desktops are still window ish with look at android. | Oct 15 13:07 |
| iophk | Many areas could benefit from LTSP | Oct 15 13:07 |
| oiaohm | Microsoft is dependant on MS Office holding. | Oct 15 13:08 |
| iophk | either with RaspberryPi desktops or with Userful's own hardware. | Oct 15 13:08 |
| oiaohm | Linux is evolving. | Oct 15 13:08 |
| oiaohm | work on wayland will bring multiseat in as a standard feature. | Oct 15 13:08 |
| oiaohm | Not a special feature. | Oct 15 13:08 |
| iophk | multiseat can be combined with LTSP | Oct 15 13:20 |
| iophk | cuts way back on noise and power consumption and maintenance | Oct 15 13:21 |
| oiaohm | iophk: multiseat is many form factors. | Oct 15 13:30 |
| oiaohm | all cut back power consumption and maintaince. | Oct 15 13:31 |
| oiaohm | LTSP is only 1 of the many form factors. | Oct 15 13:31 |
| iophk | Yes even ditching Windows lowers CPU load (and probably GPU), which adds up for megasites. | Oct 15 13:35 |
| Sosumi | meh nvidia | Oct 15 14:35 |
| Sosumi | they even make it run the marathon to get cuda running with up to date releases | Oct 15 14:36 |
| Sosumi | instead of supporting the latest releases, like fedora 19 | Oct 15 14:36 |
| Sosumi | or even back in the previous cuda toolkit, fedora 16 was the officialy supported release | Oct 15 14:37 |
| Sosumi | nvidia has better CUDA support for OSX than it has for linux, despite that almost no mac, except the imac, comes with nvidia gpus | Oct 15 14:39 |
| Sosumi | not even the last 2 revisions came with nvidia by default | Oct 15 14:40 |
| Sosumi | so yeah, nvidia, FU | Oct 15 14:40 |
| Sosumi | *last 2 revisions of the mac pro | Oct 15 14:42 |
| Sosumi | and RMS branding Steve Jobs a "malign influence" when he died | Oct 15 14:46 |
| Sosumi | well, just look at the general laptop before the crApple hype and look at them now | Oct 15 14:46 |
| Sosumi | at exception of the gaming laptops/mobile workstations | Oct 15 14:47 |
| Sosumi | the other machines, because they try to mimick the mackrook pro form factor | Oct 15 14:47 |
| Sosumi | they also get the problems of insuficient cooling | Oct 15 14:47 |
| Sosumi | I didn't have that kind of problems on my compaq armada from 2000 and somethings | Oct 15 14:48 |
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| iophk | http://source.android.com/source/licenses.html | Oct 15 15:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | source.android.com | Licenses | Android Developers [ http://ur1.ca/3yq2t ] | Oct 15 15:29 |
| iophk | "For userspace (that is, non-kernel) software, we do in fact prefer ASL2.0 (and similar licenses like BSD, MIT, etc.) over other licenses such as LGPL." | Oct 15 15:46 |
| MinceR | not new | Oct 15 15:48 |
| iophk | yes, it's old | Oct 15 15:54 |
| iophk | The more I see of Android the less open it seems to be. | Oct 15 15:55 |
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| Sosumi | http://www.autofans.pt/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Carro_GPL.jpg | Oct 15 16:01 |
| Sosumi | GPL, the gold standard | Oct 15 16:01 |
| MinceR | :) | Oct 15 16:02 |
| MinceR | known elsewhere as "LPG" | Oct 15 16:02 |
| Sosumi | :) | Oct 15 16:02 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | http://linuxlock.blogspot.co.uk/2013/10/new-user-barrier-to-linux-i-think-i.html | Oct 15 17:13 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | linuxlock.blogspot.co.uk | The Blog of Helios: New User Barrier To Linux - I Think I Found The Problem.... [ http://ur1.ca/fw8mx ] | Oct 15 17:13 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "Facebook...be there or be square." | Oct 15 17:13 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | And massive FB logo | Oct 15 17:13 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | pro-Linux blog saying if you're not on FB (CIA informants) you're /"square" | Oct 15 17:14 |
| iophk | Also he should have stuck with packaged applications. | Oct 15 17:51 |
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| iophk | There's never a good reason to lead new users away from pre-packaged applications. If it's not in the repository, then it's not available (for them) | Oct 15 17:51 |
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| *Now talking on #techrights | Oct 15 18:09 | |
| *Topic for #techrights is: TechRights.org | Channel #techrights for http://TechRights.org :: please also join channels #boycottnovell-social #techbytes and #boycottnovell | Oct 15 18:09 | |
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| MinceR | i guess he'll be happy with an OS that couldn't get USB support right by 2013 | Oct 15 19:00 |
| MinceR | i guess that's good enough for him | Oct 15 19:00 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3174849 | Oct 15 19:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @linux@joindiaspora.com: The Poetterisation of GNU/Linux http://slated.org/the_poetterisation_of_gnu_linux | Oct 15 19:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> slated.org | The Poetterisation of GNU/Linux | Slated [ http://ur1.ca/fw9bv ] | Oct 15 19:03 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "This character seems to want to get rid of all non-programming linux users and usher in a utopia of the True Unix Way by also getting rid of all developers who do not follow it. So basically he's a hipster." | Oct 15 19:04 |
| iophk | "they not only bring with them their indoctrinated expectations, misguided ideologies and flawed methods, but worse still they actually implement them, thus destroying GNU/Linux from within." | Oct 15 19:09 |
| iophk | Really afraid of LibreOffice and/or Chromebooks : http://www.informationweek.com/software/enterprise-applications/microsoft-free-office-365-for-students/240162633 | Oct 15 19:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.informationweek.com | Microsoft: Free Office 365 For Students - Software - Enterprise [ http://ur1.ca/fw9j0 ] | Oct 15 19:40 |
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| Sosumi | yes, yes someone talking sanity on that Slated article | Oct 15 20:51 |
| Sosumi | http://slated.org/a_fool_and_his_money | Oct 15 21:13 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | slated.org | A Fool and His Money | Slated | Oct 15 21:13 |
| Sosumi | are soon parted | Oct 15 21:13 |
| Sosumi | :) | Oct 15 21:13 |
| Sosumi | actually, many games nowadays equals chasing a carrot on a stick while you being the horse | Oct 15 21:13 |
| Sosumi | dlc, too much farming, unlocks... | Oct 15 21:14 |
| Sosumi | free dlc in case of pre-ordering and the list goes on | Oct 15 21:15 |
| Sosumi | but anyways, the gods only need one game and that's quake 3 | Oct 15 21:15 |
| MinceR | i prefer xonotic | Oct 15 21:16 |
| MinceR | (and free software (code and assets) fps-es in general) | Oct 15 21:17 |
| Sosumi | yeah, I'm seeing it now | Oct 15 21:17 |
| Sosumi | but I really don't play any games at all | Oct 15 21:17 |
| Sosumi | university gets the most out of me | Oct 15 21:17 |
| MinceR | nowadays i find little time to play | Oct 15 21:17 |
| MinceR | work and personal projects take my energy :> | Oct 15 21:18 |
| Sosumi | I don't even have a single game here at my apartment | Oct 15 21:19 |
| Sosumi | but I do like when I manage to go home at some special weekend | Oct 15 21:19 |
| Sosumi | you know, like those preceded by an holyday | Oct 15 21:20 |
| Sosumi | to fire my quad g5 and go blow things | Oct 15 21:20 |
| Sosumi | on quake 3 or ut2k4 | Oct 15 21:21 |
| Sosumi | but outside of those fast paced games I really don't like anything else | Oct 15 21:21 |
| MinceR | :) | Oct 15 21:21 |
| Sosumi | and for storys, well I'd rather read a book, that is not fiction | Oct 15 21:22 |
| Sosumi | although I have to admit that I enjoyed a lot Eternal Darkness on the game cube | Oct 15 21:22 |
| Sosumi | and actually asked my grandparents the thing just to play that game | Oct 15 21:22 |
| Sosumi | I was 13 at the time -good times- | Oct 15 21:23 |
| Sosumi | well and got the original xbox just to play shemue 2 | Oct 15 21:24 |
| Sosumi | shamefully, I should have gotten the dreamcast instead | Oct 15 21:24 |
| Sosumi | at least I would have been able to play the first shemmue | Oct 15 21:25 |
| MinceR | i read both fiction and nonfiction | Oct 15 21:25 |
| Sosumi | but that is because I happen to enjoy bruce lee movies or those early ones with Van Damme | Oct 15 21:26 |
| Sosumi | I tend to read nonfiction, but outside of math manuals and computer stuff I tend to go for filosofy and psychology | Oct 15 21:26 |
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| Sosumi | http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-10-15/meanwhile-real-world-americans-sell-hair-breast-milk-and-eggs-make-ends-meet | Oct 15 22:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.zerohedge.com | Meanwhile In The Real World, Americans Sell Hair, Breast Milk And Eggs To Make Ends Meet | Zero Hedge [ http://ur1.ca/fwaej ] | Oct 15 22:48 |
| Sosumi | :( | Oct 15 22:48 |
| Sosumi | hopefully i wont end like in china, where ppl are hunted down and sold in parts | Oct 15 22:49 |
| Sosumi | *it | Oct 15 22:49 |
| Sosumi | or maybe it will, in times of financial like these and with degeneracy creeping everywhere... | Oct 15 22:50 |
| Sosumi | I don't really know | Oct 15 22:50 |
| Sosumi | it was just like 3 days ago, portuguese gov confiscating your 2nd pension | Oct 15 22:51 |
| Sosumi | so if you worked your entire life and managed to accumulate 2 pensions, one of them goes away like the wind | Oct 15 22:52 |
| Sosumi | meanwhile, politicians do a 3 full terms and they get a complete reform | Oct 15 22:53 |
| Sosumi | like if they had worked their entire life | Oct 15 22:53 |
| Sosumi | not to mention their sallary while occupying that "venerable" public post | Oct 15 22:54 |
| Sosumi | ho and should mention, everything is ok, even through they just stole the damm, pensions, no one lifted a finger or said something | Oct 15 22:57 |
| Sosumi | the level of indiference in country is just nauseating | Oct 15 22:57 |
| Sosumi | http://davideubank.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/they_livex.jpg | Oct 15 22:58 |
| Sosumi | just as everyone believes what the man in between vomits (media=mediator) | Oct 15 22:59 |
| Sosumi | in the real world, unemployment in portugal predicted to reach 23.3% by 2015 | Oct 15 23:00 |
| Sosumi | kewl, | Oct 15 23:00 |
| Sosumi | and I did alert some of the folks I knew, they'd be coming for the pensions here | Oct 15 23:01 |
| Sosumi | followed polland confiscating half of their pension funds | Oct 15 23:02 |
| Sosumi | http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-09-06/poland-confiscates-half-private-pension-funds-cut-sovereign-debt-load | Oct 15 23:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.zerohedge.com | Poland Confiscates Half Of Private Pension Funds To "Cut" Sovereign Debt Load | Zero Hedge [ http://ur1.ca/fwahb ] | Oct 15 23:03 |
| Sosumi | confiscate funds -> cut debt to gdp -> issue more debt | Oct 15 23:03 |
| Sosumi | brooliant! who ever came up with that deserves a nobel piss prize in wathever | Oct 15 23:04 |
| Sosumi | well, not to mention that former portuguese prime minister socrates sold government owned buildings and 3 public hospitals | Oct 15 23:05 |
| Sosumi | only to rent them back, thus hiding the debt burden | Oct 15 23:05 |
| Sosumi | again another brooliant deal | Oct 15 23:06 |
| Sosumi | meanwhile the rich guys that the con man (politicians) always talks about taxing and this or that | Oct 15 23:07 |
| Sosumi | has his money in non profit foundations, which can't be taxed | Oct 15 23:07 |
| Sosumi | so the rich guys paying for everything ends up being those earning the misery of 2000€ a month sallary | Oct 15 23:08 |
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| DaemonFC | Have my car scheduled to go back into the shop tomorrow. | Oct 16 01:19 |
| DaemonFC | Transmission flush and spark plugs and wires. | Oct 16 01:19 |
| DaemonFC | I flushed the coolant and replaced a bad relay for the rear window defroster yesterday. | Oct 16 01:20 |
| DaemonFC | Auto Zone had the coolant and flush solvents on sale. | Oct 16 01:20 |
| DaemonFC | So I used Peak Extended Life. It says 5 years/150,000 miles. | Oct 16 01:21 |
| DaemonFC | When the car had been off for several hours, I took my garden hose sprayer and cleaned out the radiator grill. :P | Oct 16 01:21 |
| DaemonFC | dead bugs and crap get in there over time | Oct 16 01:21 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAUfJi8ijCo | Oct 16 03:20 |
| DaemonFC | LOL | Oct 16 03:20 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.youtube.com | Lexx - 791 Dance - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/fwbom ] | Oct 16 03:20 |
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| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3174803 | Oct 16 09:18 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Elementary OS 0.2 Luna – now that’s more like it http://www.binarytides.com/elementary-os-luna-review/ #gnu #linux | Oct 16 09:18 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.binarytides.com | Elementary OS 0.2 Luna – now that’s more like it [ http://ur1.ca/fwdcs ] | Oct 16 09:18 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | I read "based on ubuntu" and stopped reading further... :)"77" | Oct 16 09:18 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Ubuntu is based on Debian. You can take Ubuntu repos and not use Canonical's bad practices and tools. | Oct 16 09:18 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "I use Elementary OS on my netbook (Asus F201) and I really like it." | Oct 16 09:19 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3174840 | Oct 16 09:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Ubuntu 13.10 Review: A great Linux desktop gets better http://www.zdnet.com/ubuntu-13-10-review-a-great-linux-desktop-gets-better-7000021825/ #ubuntu #gnu #linux | Oct 16 09:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.zdnet.com | Ubuntu 13.10 Review: A great Linux desktop gets better | ZDNet [ http://ur1.ca/fwdd5 ] | Oct 16 09:21 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | zdnet is so ironical..."7" | Oct 16 09:21 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Excepting SJVN, zdnet is trollery and agenda disguised as news http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/ZDNet | Oct 16 09:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | techrights.org | ZDNet - Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/d50sx ] | Oct 16 09:21 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3174833 | Oct 16 09:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Ubuntu 13.10 vs. Fedora Linux CPU Benchmarks http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTQ4MTc #gnu #linux #fedora #ubuntu | Oct 16 09:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.phoronix.com | [Phoronix] Ubuntu 13.10 vs. Fedora Linux CPU Benchmarks [ http://ur1.ca/fwdda ] | Oct 16 09:22 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Slackware+Ratpoison is faster.. :)"77" | Oct 16 09:22 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Yet lacking some function | Oct 16 09:22 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3174754 | Oct 16 09:26 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: GNU and Linux not dependent on Canonical http://fossforce.com/2013/10/disaster-ubuntu-ceased-exist/ | Oct 16 09:26 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> fossforce.com | Would It Be a Disaster If Ubuntu Ceased to Exist? - FOSS Force [ http://ur1.ca/fwddw ] | Oct 16 09:26 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Is that even a question? lol"77" | Oct 16 09:26 |
| MinceR | geekings | Oct 16 09:34 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | http://sphericalbullshit.wordpress.com/2013/10/16/an-uplifting-story-plz-share-lol/ | Oct 16 12:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | sphericalbullshit.wordpress.com | An Uplifting Story! PLZ SHARE!! LOL! | Spherical Bullshit [ http://ur1.ca/fwe8y ] | Oct 16 12:28 |
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| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3178730 | Oct 16 14:38 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: SolusOS: A Linux Distro Stands Its Ground… http://fossforce.com/2013/10/solusos-linux-distro-stands-ground/ #SolusOS #gnu #linux | Oct 16 14:38 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> fossforce.com | SolusOS: A Linux Distro Stands Its Ground… - FOSS Force [ http://ur1.ca/fwey0 ] | Oct 16 14:38 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "Worst Debian-based distribution I'd ever seen." | Oct 16 14:38 |
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| Sosumi | ubuntu and "Moronical" two things that need to be burned to the ground | Oct 16 14:46 |
| MinceR | :> | Oct 16 14:47 |
| Sosumi | baby! | Oct 16 14:48 |
| Sosumi | https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2013/10/iphone_sensor_s.html | Oct 16 14:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.schneier.com | Schneier on Security: iPhone Sensor Surveillance [ http://ur1.ca/fwf1f ] | Oct 16 14:50 |
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| DaemonFC | The car is in the shop again. This time I'm having them drop the transmission pan and clean it out, replace the filter, replace the pan gasket, and then flush all the old fluid out and refill it. | Oct 16 15:03 |
| DaemonFC | I'm doing new spark plugs and wires. I told them to use the 120,000 mile Iridium plugs. | Oct 16 15:04 |
| Sosumi | which car did you get? | Oct 16 15:04 |
| DaemonFC | and while it's in there anyway, I told them to replace the fuel filter. Could do it myself, but I don't feel like getting sprayed with gasoline. | Oct 16 15:04 |
| DaemonFC | I had them fix the rear defroster and heated side mirrors on Monday ($40, bad relay), and flush and fill the coolant system. | Oct 16 15:05 |
| Sosumi | second had Abrams? | Oct 16 15:05 |
| Sosumi | *hand | Oct 16 15:05 |
| DaemonFC | Sosumi, A 1996 Ford Crown Victoria LX with 94,000 miles on it. | Oct 16 15:05 |
| Sosumi | never seen one of those here in portugal | Oct 16 15:06 |
| DaemonFC | eventually, I'm going to get all the paint blemishes buffed out or touched up, put in a new front grill, and pull out the factory radio and replace it with a touch screen one with navigation system, satellite radio, bluetooth, etc. | Oct 16 15:07 |
| DaemonFC | It'll look brand new by the time I'm finished next year. | Oct 16 15:07 |
| Sosumi | don't do that, just yank the radio | Oct 16 15:07 |
| Sosumi | and enjoy silence | Oct 16 15:07 |
| DaemonFC | I want the touch screen one with the navigation system | Oct 16 15:07 |
| MinceR | Sosumi: it can be turned off :> | Oct 16 15:07 |
| DaemonFC | That way I don't have to print out a map every time I go somewhere. | Oct 16 15:08 |
| Sosumi | ^^ | Oct 16 15:08 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Actually, it can't. | Oct 16 15:08 |
| MinceR | i use a mobile phone holder for that | Oct 16 15:08 |
| DaemonFC | When you push the button to turn it off, it comes right back on. | Oct 16 15:08 |
| MinceR | oh, right, it's the one with the broken radio | Oct 16 15:08 |
| DaemonFC | So I just turn the volume all the way down. | Oct 16 15:08 |
| DaemonFC | No big deal. | Oct 16 15:08 |
| DaemonFC | Right now I'm just using a MP3 player to cassette adapter I got for like $6. | Oct 16 15:08 |
| DaemonFC | you just put it in the tape deck and plug the other end into the headphone jack on your mp3 player. | Oct 16 15:09 |
| DaemonFC | https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/1398794_154021488141224_995077278_o.jpg | Oct 16 15:12 |
| DaemonFC | https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/q71/s720x720/1374910_154021581474548_2122539468_n.jpg | Oct 16 15:13 |
| DaemonFC | https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/q74/s720x720/1384194_154021768141196_1070508783_n.jpg | Oct 16 15:14 |
| DaemonFC | https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/q77/s720x720/1385621_154021928141180_627098852_n.jpg | Oct 16 15:14 |
| DaemonFC | https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/q71/s720x720/1380844_154021524807887_45182308_n.jpg | Oct 16 15:14 |
| DaemonFC | Sosumi, So there she is. :) | Oct 16 15:15 |
| DaemonFC | I'm doing some catch up maintenance and a tune up at the moment. | Oct 16 15:15 |
| DaemonFC | I'll have them do some paint repair and such later on. | Oct 16 15:16 |
| DaemonFC | Nobody ever changes their transmission fluid. | Oct 16 15:16 |
| Sosumi | doesn't look bad | Oct 16 15:16 |
| DaemonFC | You're supposed to do a drain and fill every 30,000 miles, but people never do. So if you get a car near 100,000 miles, you need to do a flush. | Oct 16 15:16 |
| Sosumi | how much did you pay? | Oct 16 15:16 |
| DaemonFC | $2,200 | Oct 16 15:17 |
| DaemonFC | When you do a transmission drain and fill, you only get like 5-6 quarts of ATF fluid out. The system holds roughly 12-14 quarts on most vehicles. | Oct 16 15:17 |
| DaemonFC | So doing the service every 30,000 miles will keep the fluid fresh enough that you should never have to flush it. | Oct 16 15:18 |
| DaemonFC | If the last owner never did the drain and fills, you need to do a flush right away to force all of the old fluid out and replace it with all new fluid. | Oct 16 15:18 |
| DaemonFC | The procedure is very inefficient, so it costs more. | Oct 16 15:18 |
| DaemonFC | They end up using an additional 6-8 quarts of fluid during the process of flushing the old fluid out. | Oct 16 15:19 |
| DaemonFC | They should also drop the pan and clean it out, and replace the transmission filter and the pan gasket at this time. | Oct 16 15:19 |
| DaemonFC | Copper spark plugs need replaced every 30,000 miles for optimal fuel efficiency and engine performance. This is another thing that almost nobody ever does. | Oct 16 15:20 |
| DaemonFC | So the original factory plugs are still on the car after more than 90,000 miles. | Oct 16 15:20 |
| DaemonFC | I'm having them change the wires at the same time. | Oct 16 15:20 |
| DaemonFC | I told them to put in the Iridium tipped plugs because those last 120,000 miles. | Oct 16 15:20 |
| DaemonFC | They're more expensive, but they save you from four scheduled spark plug changes, so they end up saving you alot more than they cost. | Oct 16 15:21 |
| DaemonFC | Most shops will put in copper ones unless you tell them not to. | Oct 16 15:21 |
| DaemonFC | Since changing the plugs is about $150 in the shop, you want the long life plugs to avoid going to the shop every 30,000 miles. | Oct 16 15:22 |
| DaemonFC | If they save you from $450 in shop parts and labor and they only cost an additional $5 per plug * 8, you're paying $40 to save $450. | Oct 16 15:23 |
| DaemonFC | So it's just good to use better plugs. | Oct 16 15:23 |
| DaemonFC | I also took in one of their newspaper ads today. 10% off all shop labor charges. | Oct 16 15:23 |
| DaemonFC | Sosumi, It's a good car. The Ford 4.6 V8 is an outstanding engine. | Oct 16 15:24 |
| DaemonFC | They stopped making Crown Victorias a couple of years ago. They're pushing the Ford Taurus Police Interceptor now. | Oct 16 15:25 |
| DaemonFC | 3.7 liter DOHC engine | Oct 16 15:25 |
| DaemonFC | V6 | Oct 16 15:25 |
| DaemonFC | Ford has these "EcoBoost" engines in everything now. | Oct 16 15:26 |
| DaemonFC | So they phased out the V8. | Oct 16 15:26 |
| MinceR | why didn't you buy a Ford Taurus Police Interceptor? :> | Oct 16 15:26 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, They're too new. | Oct 16 15:26 |
| MinceR | finally you'd have something to intercept police with! | Oct 16 15:26 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 16 15:26 |
| DaemonFC | The police aren't phasing out older models yet, and you can't buy them with that equipment package directly from Ford. | Oct 16 15:27 |
| DaemonFC | They probably cost $60,000. So there's that. :) | Oct 16 15:27 |
| DaemonFC | The doors on the Taurus police interceptor are bulletproof now. | Oct 16 15:28 |
| MinceR | :> | Oct 16 15:28 |
| DaemonFC | I wonder why they weren't doing this before 2013. | Oct 16 15:28 |
| MinceR | is the glass bulletproof too? | Oct 16 15:28 |
| DaemonFC | Not sure. | Oct 16 15:28 |
| DaemonFC | The cops use the car doors as a shield. So Ford started making the doors bulletproof. | Oct 16 15:28 |
| iophk | http://www.wired.com/opinion/2013/10/how-to-design-and-defend-against-the-perfect-backdoor/ | Oct 16 15:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.wired.com | How to Design — And Defend Against — The Perfect Security Backdoor | Wired Opinion | Wired.com [ http://ur1.ca/fwf7w ] | Oct 16 15:28 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2012/09/police-interceptor-sedan-630.jpeg | Oct 16 15:30 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jc_q6Wa_es | Oct 16 15:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.youtube.com | NYPD Brand New Ford Taurus Police Interceptor - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/fwf86 ] | Oct 16 15:31 |
| iophk | http://arstechnica.com/security/2013/10/dexter-malware-infects-south-african-restaurants-costs-banks-millions/ | Oct 16 15:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | arstechnica.com | “Dexter” malware infects South African restaurants, costs banks millions | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/fwf8d ] | Oct 16 15:31 |
| iophk | People stupid enough to use Windows for point-of-sale | Oct 16 15:31 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Don't you love how the cops can park their car in the middle of a lane on the street during rush hour? | Oct 16 15:31 |
| iophk | The owner of the malware could snap up lots of cc info that way. | Oct 16 15:32 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: yeah, i love how laws don't apply to cops | Oct 16 15:33 |
| DaemonFC | "costs banks millions" | Oct 16 15:35 |
| DaemonFC | So? They can always print themselves more. | Oct 16 15:35 |
| iophk | http://www.infoworld.com/print/228862 | Oct 16 15:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.infoworld.com | Scroogled my ass | Oct 16 15:39 |
| DaemonFC | It shocks me that people don't take better care of their cars. | Oct 16 15:43 |
| DaemonFC | Even stuff like changing the spark plugs. | Oct 16 15:43 |
| DaemonFC | They're paying more for the loss in fuel economy than a set of plugs cost. | Oct 16 15:43 |
| DaemonFC | Or the coolant system | Oct 16 15:44 |
| DaemonFC | A flush costs $65 in a shop. A new radiator is $500, a new heater core is $600, a new water pump will cost about $200. | Oct 16 15:45 |
| DaemonFC | A transmission service is $50 for your scheduled drain and fills. A rebuilt transmission is over $1,200, | Oct 16 15:45 |
| DaemonFC | Common sense says that paying $1 to save $10-20 later is a good decision. | Oct 16 15:46 |
| DaemonFC | But people are dumb and they just don't take care of what they have. | Oct 16 15:46 |
| DaemonFC | There's a joke that dentists use. Only floss the teeth you want to keep. | Oct 16 15:47 |
| DaemonFC | But it carries over to machinery. Only maintain what you want to keep. | Oct 16 15:47 |
| DaemonFC | Skimping on maintenance is a very bad decision that WILL cost you alot more later. | Oct 16 15:48 |
| DaemonFC | Maybe even your life. | Oct 16 15:48 |
| DaemonFC | People neglect their brakes and drive around with the pads making that horrible screeching sound. | Oct 16 15:48 |
| DaemonFC | What do they think happens when your brakes go out? | Oct 16 15:48 |
| DaemonFC | Where will you be and how fast will you be going when that happens? :) | Oct 16 15:48 |
| DaemonFC | I see people driving around on bald tires all the time too. | Oct 16 15:49 |
| DaemonFC | You might get away with that if it's not raining or if there's no ice on the road. | Oct 16 15:49 |
| DaemonFC | Walmart carries Goodyear Viva 2's for $70 each. | Oct 16 15:50 |
| DaemonFC | That's what I always use when I need new tires. | Oct 16 15:50 |
| DaemonFC | I try to stay out of their TLE for oil changes, but tires are really expensive at other shops. | Oct 16 15:50 |
| DaemonFC | The cheapest tire that Wertenberger has is like $200 each. | Oct 16 15:51 |
| DaemonFC | Nothing wrong with cheap Goodyear tires. The more expensive ones are an immediate diminishing returns situation. | Oct 16 15:51 |
| DaemonFC | You could pay three times as much for a tire that's 10% better, but why? | Oct 16 15:51 |
| DaemonFC | When I test drove that used Pontiac Montana van, I noticed that there was crap floating around the coolant reservoir, and the transmission had been neglected, but he had $1,000 worth of brand new tires on it. | Oct 16 15:52 |
| DaemonFC | People are nuts. | Oct 16 15:52 |
| DaemonFC | I would have gotten the Viva 2's and use the rest of the money to maintain the vehicle. | Oct 16 15:53 |
| DaemonFC | That Montana was ready for the junkyard at only 117,000 miles. What a waste. | Oct 16 15:53 |
| DaemonFC | If he had just taken care of it, it would have probably gone to at least 200-250. | Oct 16 15:53 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09o07bh0k-4 | Oct 16 15:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.youtube.com | Dumb Things NOT To Do To Your Car - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/fwfbt ] | Oct 16 15:54 |
| DaemonFC | I like this guy. | Oct 16 15:54 |
| DaemonFC | People also spend money on dumb things like "fuel saving" devices while they neglect their vehicle. | Oct 16 15:55 |
| DaemonFC | The US EPA tested like 125 of those devices, and concluded that only about 6 of them actually saved fuel. | Oct 16 15:55 |
| DaemonFC | I'd be cautious about those even if they did. They're not a Ford authorized part, so there's no telling what other effects they may have on your car. | Oct 16 15:56 |
| DaemonFC | oh, and car batteries | Oct 16 15:56 |
| DaemonFC | I get those at Walmart. | Oct 16 15:56 |
| DaemonFC | It's dead simple to install those. I don't think they'll fuck that up. | Oct 16 15:57 |
| DaemonFC | +1 on not letting your car run low/out of gas. | Oct 16 15:58 |
| DaemonFC | It puts strain on the fuel pump. It could overheat and fail. That's a $600 repair. | Oct 16 15:58 |
| DaemonFC | The shop will have to drop the gas tank to get to it. | Oct 16 15:58 |
| MinceR | and then you get to figure out how to get gas to your car | Oct 16 15:59 |
| DaemonFC | It also sucks in all of the crap that's floating on top of the gasoline and might plug up your fuel filter. | Oct 16 15:59 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I have AAA. | Oct 16 15:59 |
| MinceR | though i guess some people carry an extra tank of gas with them | Oct 16 15:59 |
| DaemonFC | They'd bring me a couple gallons of gas. | Oct 16 15:59 |
| MinceR | Alcoholics Anonymous Assistance? | Oct 16 15:59 |
| DaemonFC | But letting your car run out of gas is by far the dumbest thing you could do. | Oct 16 15:59 |
| DaemonFC | There's a gauge, and even a light that comes on that says "LOW FUEL". | Oct 16 15:59 |
| DaemonFC | So it's impossible to miss. | Oct 16 16:00 |
| DaemonFC | Unless you drive a GM vehicle and have one of their gas gauges that likes to bounce from full to empty at random. | Oct 16 16:00 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 16 16:00 |
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| DaemonFC | But GM sucks and anyone that pays alot of money for a GM vehicle is a fucking idiot to begin with. | Oct 16 16:00 |
| DaemonFC | They hardly ever build one that works right. | Oct 16 16:00 |
| MinceR | hm | Oct 16 16:01 |
| MinceR | maybe nokia hired that guy to do the battery meter for the n97 | Oct 16 16:01 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Almost every GM vehicle built since 1999 will have the gas gauge problem eventually. | Oct 16 16:05 |
| DaemonFC | It costs $600 to get it replaced in a shop. And the new one will start doing it too. | Oct 16 16:06 |
| MinceR | and where does Chrysler stand? | Oct 16 16:06 |
| DaemonFC | So most people with a 5+ year old GM vehicle just use the trip odometer and guess. | Oct 16 16:06 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 16 16:06 |
| MinceR | (we've discussed ford and gm, but not chrysler) | Oct 16 16:06 |
| DaemonFC | Chrysler/Dodge.... Uhhm. I wouldn't buy a vehicle from a company that puts the fuel filter INSIDE the gas tank. | Oct 16 16:07 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 16 16:07 |
| MinceR | why? | Oct 16 16:07 |
| DaemonFC | It costs $40 to change the fuel filter on a Ford Crown Vic in the shop. | Oct 16 16:07 |
| DaemonFC | It costs about $150 to change it on a Chrysler. | Oct 16 16:07 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 16 16:07 |
| MinceR | also, it's funny that Dodge cars are marked with an instruction to pedestrians | Oct 16 16:07 |
| MinceR | on the front | Oct 16 16:07 |
| MinceR | ic | Oct 16 16:08 |
| DaemonFC | Dodge it or get Rammed. | Oct 16 16:08 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 16 16:08 |
| MinceR | :) | Oct 16 16:08 |
| DaemonFC | Ford makes excellent trucks, decent cars, and piss poor vans. | Oct 16 16:08 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 16 16:08 |
| DaemonFC | GM doesn't make anything right. | Oct 16 16:08 |
| DaemonFC | Dodge/Chrysler has decent trucks, decent vans, and bad cars. | Oct 16 16:09 |
| DaemonFC | The main advantage to buying Ford is that their warranty and recall policies are the best out of the three, and after your car is out of warranty, it's easier and cheaper to have work done on it than the others. | Oct 16 16:10 |
| DaemonFC | The parts are less expensive and generally easier to get to, so you save on shop hours too. | Oct 16 16:10 |
| DaemonFC | The Crown Vic is a reliable car, but every car will have stuff that fails eventually. It's nice to know that you have a car that will require less shop hours for most repairs when something does happen. | Oct 16 16:11 |
| DaemonFC | Honda makes reliable cars, but the reputation is exaggerated, so the price goes up. | Oct 16 16:11 |
| DaemonFC | Way up. | Oct 16 16:11 |
| DaemonFC | Even on used ones. | Oct 16 16:11 |
| DaemonFC | Then you have to find a good independent mechanic that knows Hondas. | Oct 16 16:12 |
| DaemonFC | That's not uncommon, but it's more common to find one with a good working knowledge of Fords. | Oct 16 16:12 |
| MinceR | i still prefer to not waste time on having my car serviced. :> | Oct 16 16:13 |
| DaemonFC | Alot of Honda owners take it to the dealer, because shops that specialize in Honda/Toyota/Nissan vehicles typically charge more per hour than most independent mechanics would to work on a Ford. | Oct 16 16:13 |
| DaemonFC | So the price difference between the Honda Dealer and Import Doctors is not large. | Oct 16 16:13 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 16 16:13 |
| DaemonFC | They're both expensive. | Oct 16 16:14 |
| DaemonFC | Also, Honda doesn't have anything with a V8 to the best of my knowledge. | Oct 16 16:14 |
| DaemonFC | The Ford modular V8 is a damned good engine. | Oct 16 16:14 |
| DaemonFC | Many of them make it to or exceed 300,000 miles with the scheduled maintenance being adhered to. | Oct 16 16:15 |
| DaemonFC | It's totally worth keeping your old Crown Vic going. | Oct 16 16:15 |
| DaemonFC | They put that 4.6 V8 in a lot of their vehicles. | Oct 16 16:16 |
| DaemonFC | and it's not a gas guzzler | Oct 16 16:16 |
| DaemonFC | Even with the worn out spark plugs and factory wires on my 96, I am getting almost 22 mpg. | Oct 16 16:17 |
| DaemonFC | I suspect that will increase when they get done with that. | Oct 16 16:17 |
| DaemonFC | I put platinum plugs in my Taurus right after I bought it. | Oct 16 16:20 |
| DaemonFC | The gas mileage did go up a little bit. | Oct 16 16:21 |
| DaemonFC | I like the platinums because you can go 60,000-120,000 miles without replacing them again (depending on the brand). | Oct 16 16:21 |
| DaemonFC | So when your car has over 100,000 miles on it and you use platinums, you may only ever need to do it once. | Oct 16 16:22 |
| iophk | http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2013-10/16/facebook-third-world | Oct 16 16:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.wired.co.uk | Facebook is trying to buy its way into the developing world (Wired UK) [ http://ur1.ca/fwfgg ] | Oct 16 16:22 |
| DaemonFC | Each time the plug fires the cylinder, a little bit of the plug's head is worn away. Over time, your gas mileage drops, and so does the power output of your engine. If it gets really bad, you can start getting knocking and pinging. Your Service Engine light may even come on. | Oct 16 16:23 |
| DaemonFC | Platinum tips just don't wear down as fast as copper. | Oct 16 16:23 |
| MinceR | strange, platinum is a soft metal, afaik | Oct 16 16:24 |
| DaemonFC | Another thing people neglect is the fuel filter. | Oct 16 16:24 |
| DaemonFC | Gasoline is not as clean as the oil companies would have you believe. | Oct 16 16:24 |
| DaemonFC | Even though most owners manuals don't recommend a fuel filter change, you should do it at a minimum of 50,000 miles. | Oct 16 16:25 |
| DaemonFC | If you take one apart after 50,000, you'll see that the filter media is totally black. | Oct 16 16:25 |
| DaemonFC | If it gets bad enough, your car might not start, but even with partial blockage, you're putting increased wear on the fuel pump and your engine power output might drop noticeably, especially on the highway. | Oct 16 16:26 |
| DaemonFC | Some fuel filters even have a bypass that gets used if they clog, so you're sending unfiltered gas to your engine and it'll eventually clog up your fuel injectors. | Oct 16 16:26 |
| DaemonFC | It costs a few hundred dollars on most cars to have a mechanic remove and clean the injectors. | Oct 16 16:27 |
| DaemonFC | Those bottles that you pour in your fuel tank are not only worthless, they can dislodge some of the crap that's in your fuel tank and plug the filter. | Oct 16 16:27 |
| DaemonFC | So they're a waste of money at best, and might prevent your car from starting, which means you need to replace the filter anyway, like you should have done to start with. | Oct 16 16:28 |
| DaemonFC | If you replace the filter on time every time, your injectors should never be clogged in the first place. | Oct 16 16:28 |
| DaemonFC | Don't use oil or fuel additives, ever. | Oct 16 16:29 |
| DaemonFC | Don't ever get your engine "flushed". If you want to safely remove some varnish, just use Valvoline Maxlife Full Synthetic. It'll clean it up (or prevent the sludge and varnish to begin with) and it'll end up in your oil filter, where it belongs. | Oct 16 16:30 |
| DaemonFC | The filter gets changed with every oil change anyway. | Oct 16 16:30 |
| DaemonFC | I hardly ever recommend a product by brand name, but I do with engine oil. | Oct 16 16:31 |
| DaemonFC | The shops that offer an engine flush should be avoided completely. | Oct 16 16:33 |
| DaemonFC | They're a dishonest shop that is selling an unnecessary and dangerous "service". | Oct 16 16:33 |
| DaemonFC | If you get an engine flush, what you're really asking for is a wallet flush. | Oct 16 16:34 |
| DaemonFC | At the very least, it was a waste of $100, but it could ruin your engine. | Oct 16 16:34 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Does Dodge/Chrysler sell vehicles in Hungaristan? | Oct 16 16:35 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 16 16:35 |
| DaemonFC | I drove a Dodge car once, but only because it was a rental. | Oct 16 16:35 |
| DaemonFC | At the time, it was a brand new '03 Dodge Stratus. | Oct 16 16:35 |
| DaemonFC | They're a nice car when they're new. | Oct 16 16:35 |
| DaemonFC | But you don't want to own one. | Oct 16 16:35 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 16 16:35 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=512660&page=all | Oct 16 16:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.bobistheoilguy.com | Question and thoughts on Transmission flushes - Bob Is The Oil Guy [ http://ur1.ca/fwfm4 ] | Oct 16 16:51 |
| DaemonFC | "Chris B. - A co-worker of mine said I should not have flushed it and guarantees that it will fail soon now with in 4,000 more miles." | Oct 16 16:51 |
| DaemonFC | I had it flushed on the Taurus when it had 113,000 and I just sold it eight years later. | Oct 16 16:51 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 16 16:51 |
| DaemonFC | The flush is a "catch up" service when the last owner neglected the drain and fill procedure. | Oct 16 16:51 |
| DaemonFC | I specifically asked the guy at Daniels if they drop the pan and replace the filter and gasket. | Oct 16 16:54 |
| DaemonFC | Some shops use what's called a "T-Tech" machine. | Oct 16 16:54 |
| DaemonFC | You don't want that. | Oct 16 16:54 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: i think they do | Oct 16 16:54 |
| MinceR | i remember seeing a few pt cruisers | Oct 16 16:54 |
| DaemonFC | It makes the bay technician's job easier, but it doesn't clean the pan or change the gasket and filter. | Oct 16 16:54 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, An alcoholic ran into the side of my Lumina with a PT Cruiser. | Oct 16 16:55 |
| DaemonFC | Totaled the PT Cruiser. | Oct 16 16:55 |
| DaemonFC | His insurance company gave me a check for $2,000. I got some doors off a junkyard Lumina and installed them for about $200 | Oct 16 16:55 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 16 16:55 |
| DaemonFC | I had the estimate done at Pace Chevrolet so that the price would be astronomical, so they'd cut me a larger check. | Oct 16 16:56 |
| DaemonFC | Then I replaced the doors with junkyard parts myself. | Oct 16 16:56 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 16 16:56 |
| DaemonFC | I used the remaining $1,800 on a really nice vacation that summer. | Oct 16 16:56 |
| MinceR | :> | Oct 16 16:56 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, My mom says that transmissions are unreliable. I told her that hers already had three strikes against them. | Oct 16 17:00 |
| DaemonFC | She drives a GM vehicle, SHE drives the GM vehicle, and she never gets them serviced on schedule. | Oct 16 17:01 |
| DaemonFC | They might survive any one of the three, but not all three. | Oct 16 17:01 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 16 17:01 |
| DaemonFC | GM really makes some godawful crap. | Oct 16 17:02 |
| DaemonFC | Really really bad cars. | Oct 16 17:02 |
| DaemonFC | I will NEVER own one again. | Oct 16 17:02 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Chevrolet is both a brand and a warning label. | Oct 16 17:02 |
| DaemonFC | She has this terrible habit of shifting gears while the car is still moving. | Oct 16 17:03 |
| MinceR | there are many of those | Oct 16 17:03 |
| DaemonFC | It's a wonder that they last as long as they do with her driving. | Oct 16 17:03 |
| MinceR | hm, i regularly shift gears while the car is moving | Oct 16 17:03 |
| MinceR | i thought it was normal | Oct 16 17:04 |
| DaemonFC | It's an automatic and she shifts into REVERSE and PARK while the car is moving. | Oct 16 17:04 |
| MinceR | i do press the clutch while doing so, though :> | Oct 16 17:04 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 16 17:04 |
| MinceR | well, that's different :> | Oct 16 17:04 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, just a little. | Oct 16 17:04 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 16 17:04 |
| DaemonFC | I keep yelling at her for it, and she keeps doing it. | Oct 16 17:04 |
| DaemonFC | She's had so many transmission rebuilds on so many cars, I've lost count. | Oct 16 17:04 |
| DaemonFC | She's a really horrible driver. | Oct 16 17:04 |
| DaemonFC | You do not shift into Park or Reverse until the vehicle has come to a full and complete stop.... | Oct 16 17:05 |
| DaemonFC | Unless you just like paying for rebuilt transmissions. | Oct 16 17:05 |
| DaemonFC | I'm not sure if the last owner of my car did the drain and fill on the transmission. | Oct 16 17:08 |
| DaemonFC | The fluid was bright red, but I'm not taking any chances. | Oct 16 17:08 |
| DaemonFC | Especially not for an extra $30. | Oct 16 17:08 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Oct 16 17:08 |
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| iophk | http://www.chron.com/news/crime/article/NH-gas-clerk-fired-for-pulling-gun-on-robber-4900117.php | Oct 16 18:45 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.chron.com | NH gas clerk fired for pulling gun on robber - Houston Chronicle [ http://ur1.ca/fwg8f ] | Oct 16 18:45 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, My mom has punished that poor Impala. | Oct 16 18:55 |
| DaemonFC | She neglects all the maintenance and then replaced a lot of high dollar parts. | Oct 16 18:55 |
| DaemonFC | It's closing in on 300,000 miles, but she's put a lot of money into it that she wouldn't have had to if she got it serviced on time. | Oct 16 18:55 |
| DaemonFC | When she's done with it, it will be fit for crushing. | Oct 16 18:56 |
| iophk | http://opensource.com/life/13/10/interview-rudolf-streif-linux-cars | Oct 16 18:57 |
| iophk | "in-vehicle infotainment" ought to consist of a velcro strip where the tablet gets fastened | Oct 16 18:57 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | opensource.com | Interview with Rudolf Streif of The Linux Foundation | opensource.com [ http://ur1.ca/fwgaj ] | Oct 16 18:57 |
| DaemonFC | As far as I know, she's never even replaced the spark plugs. | Oct 16 18:57 |
| DaemonFC | That thing probably gets horrible gas mileage by this point. | Oct 16 18:57 |
| DaemonFC | My Crown Vic is actually getting the same mileage or better than the Taurus I got rid of. | Oct 16 18:57 |
| DaemonFC | I'm impressed. | Oct 16 18:57 |
| DaemonFC | That Taurus was in rough shape when I bought it. | Oct 16 18:58 |
| DaemonFC | It's probably why I got it cheap. | Oct 16 18:58 |
| DaemonFC | It was a fleet vehicle to begin with. | Oct 16 18:59 |
| DaemonFC | I was the third owner. | Oct 16 18:59 |
| MinceR | iophk: a USB charger connector wouldn't hurt either | Oct 16 18:59 |
| iophk | http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/10/arduino-creator-explains-why-open-source-matters-in-hardware-too/ | Oct 16 18:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | arstechnica.com | Arduino creator explains why open source matters in hardware, too | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/fwgb0 ] | Oct 16 18:59 |
| iophk | MinceR: it sometimes looks like they're less about adding benefit to the car and more about accelerating an already planned obsolescence | Oct 16 19:01 |
| MinceR | indeed | Oct 16 19:02 |
| iophk | the early attempts I saw a few years ago were simply wastes of space and distractions | Oct 16 19:03 |
| iophk | with the old UI you could use tactile feedback | Oct 16 19:03 |
| iophk | it was not necessary to take your eyes off the road to adjust a knob | Oct 16 19:04 |
| iophk | touch screens are 100% visual | Oct 16 19:04 |
| iophk | can't watch the road while you adjust a touch screen UI | Oct 16 19:04 |
| DaemonFC | I wonder when they'll be done with my car. | Oct 16 19:18 |
| *DaemonFC is glad he looked in the newspaper. It usually goes in the trash. | Oct 16 19:18 | |
| DaemonFC | Everyone in the county gets a free newspaper. | Oct 16 19:18 |
| DaemonFC | If I hadn't opened it, I would have missed that 10% off labor coupon. | Oct 16 19:19 |
| DaemonFC | That'll save me $13.60 off the spark plug and wire service by itself. | Oct 16 19:19 |
| DaemonFC | I'll probably save like $25 in the end. | Oct 16 19:20 |
| DaemonFC | Every bit helps :) | Oct 16 19:20 |
| DaemonFC | I had them write on the coolant overflow tank lid the date I had them flush that. | Oct 16 19:21 |
| DaemonFC | So I'll remember to do it again in three years. | Oct 16 19:21 |
| DaemonFC | It's always better to do the coolant flush near the end of the year, just before winter. All the shops start doing half price coolant flushes. | Oct 16 19:22 |
| DaemonFC | You save like $60. | Oct 16 19:22 |
| *DaemonFC is tempted to crank call Pace Chevrolet and tell them I'd like a Wallet Flush. | Oct 16 19:23 | |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Oct 16 19:23 |
| DaemonFC | They're so freaking expensive, it's unreal. | Oct 16 19:23 |
| DaemonFC | Take whatever Daniels charges, and add like 80%, and then you have the dealer service department cost. | Oct 16 19:24 |
| DaemonFC | It can be difficult to find a good independent garage though. | Oct 16 19:24 |
| DaemonFC | If you do, then stick to that garage. | Oct 16 19:24 |
| DaemonFC | Independents are kind of hit or miss. | Oct 16 19:25 |
| DaemonFC | Some of them hire idiots, and some are as good or better than the dealers at a much lower price. | Oct 16 19:25 |
| MinceR | 202027 < DaemonFC> Every bit helps :) | Oct 16 19:26 |
| MinceR | Every Little Helps? :> | Oct 16 19:26 |
| DaemonFC | exactly :) | Oct 16 19:28 |
| iophk | http://torrentfreak.com/mpaa-says-piracy-damages-cant-be-measured-131016/ | Oct 16 19:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | torrentfreak.com | MPAA Says Piracy Damages Can’t Be Measured | TorrentFreak [ http://ur1.ca/fwgg7 ] | Oct 16 19:29 |
| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer | Oct 16 19:56 |
| DaemonFC | 2 seconds ago | Oct 16 19:56 |
| DaemonFC | For that matter, Pace Chevrolet should have ditched their Chevrolet lot and kept selling Fords. I've *_never_* owned a Chevrolet that worked right. | Oct 16 19:56 |
| DaemonFC | Mom's Impala is nearing 300,000, but it cost her a boatload of money to get it there. For what it cost her to fix that darned thing, she could have gone to Kerns Ford in Celina and had a '96 Crown Vic with 74,000 on it. | Oct 16 19:56 |
| DaemonFC | I do not know what she sees in GM vehicles. I think they're all garbage. Her fuel gauge has that "Bounces up and down between F and E at random" problem that every GM vehicle since 1999 seems to develop at some point. | Oct 16 19:56 |
| DaemonFC | They said she would have to spend six hundred dollars to get the fuel gauge replaced, so she's been resetting the trip odometer and winging it. | Oct 16 19:56 |
| DaemonFC | She ran out of gas and asked her to me bring her some a few weeks ago. | Oct 16 19:56 |
| DaemonFC | My 1995 Ford Taurus didn't give me 10% of the problems as her stupid Chevrolet has given her. She even had to spend $800 on a new rack and pinion steering system. Really GM? REALLY!? | Oct 16 19:56 |
| DaemonFC | https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/p480x480/1377144_155043454705694_45789965_n.jpg | Oct 16 19:56 |
| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer | Oct 16 20:02 |
| DaemonFC | 2 seconds ago | Oct 16 20:02 |
| DaemonFC | Come to think of it, after I do the minor body work on this Crown Vic, I might have them install one of those push bars off a police cruiser. That should save the bumper if I ever hit something. | Oct 16 20:02 |
| DaemonFC | Does anyone know how much a junkyard would charge me for one of those? | Oct 16 20:02 |
| MinceR | :) | Oct 16 20:02 |
| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer | Oct 16 20:05 |
| DaemonFC | 2 seconds ago | Oct 16 20:05 |
| DaemonFC | The only downside to owning a Crown Vic is the temptation to actually get it up to 140. | Oct 16 20:05 |
| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer | Oct 16 20:08 |
| DaemonFC | 2 seconds ago | Oct 16 20:08 |
| DaemonFC | BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP Ka Alert! | Oct 16 20:08 |
| DaemonFC | *Not sure if cop or stupid "Your Speed" sign they keep dragging around town.* | Oct 16 20:08 |
| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer shared a link. | Oct 16 20:19 |
| DaemonFC | a few seconds ago | Oct 16 20:19 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5S6s5dZXNM | Oct 16 20:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.youtube.com | TRON Legacy - The Grid (Long Version) - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/fwgq3 ] | Oct 16 20:19 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 16 20:19 |
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| Sosumi | ever heard far cry 3 blood dragon ost? | Oct 16 20:37 |
| Sosumi | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXv8JVbqwao | Oct 16 20:37 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.youtube.com | Far Cry 3: Blood Dragon (OST) - Full Soundtrack - YouTube | Oct 16 20:37 |
| Sosumi | one word | Oct 16 20:37 |
| Sosumi | awesome | Oct 16 20:38 |
| Sosumi | http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/10/thanks-to-nsa-german-e-mail-providers-see-flood-of-new-customers/ | Oct 16 20:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | arstechnica.com | Thanks to NSA, German e-mail providers see flood of new customers | Ars Technica | Oct 16 20:42 |
| Sosumi | hey wasn't germany the one that got caught by some chaos computer group guy for state sponsored malware | Oct 16 20:43 |
| Sosumi | derptechnica strikes again | Oct 16 20:43 |
| Sosumi | mails in germany are as safe as they are in any other country | Oct 16 20:45 |
| Sosumi | even in portugal, the SIS (serviços de informação de segurança) has a special room at main distribution centers where they install their snooping gear | Oct 16 20:47 |
| Sosumi | http://www.smmp.pt/?p=24224 | Oct 16 20:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.smmp.pt | SMMP – Sindicato dos Magistrados do Ministério Público » Arquivo » 36 CIDADÃO SOB ESCUTA TODOS OS DIAS | Oct 16 20:49 |
| Sosumi | 36 citizens (randomly) put under surveillance every day | Oct 16 20:50 |
| Sosumi | so much for the NSA - GCHQ - Echelon hype | Oct 16 20:52 |
| Sosumi | when everyone is doing it | Oct 16 20:53 |
| Sosumi | welcome to the real world | Oct 16 20:53 |
| Sosumi | btw, after leaving intelligence services, or while still at it, why not become an information broker or insider trader? | Oct 16 20:54 |
| JimmyCarter | moral integrity and patriotism | Oct 16 20:55 |
| Sosumi | well that's what former SIS and SIED (serviços de informação estrategicas de defesa), they not only formed but keep filling the ranks of the Ongoing Investment Group | Oct 16 20:56 |
| Sosumi | lol @ patriotism | Oct 16 20:56 |
| Sosumi | the nation state is dead | Oct 16 20:56 |
| Sosumi | http://expresso.sapo.pt/ex-diretor-do-sied-a-caminho-da-ongoing=f618306 | Oct 16 20:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | expresso.sapo.pt | Ex diretor do SIED a caminho da Ongoing - Expresso.pt | Oct 16 20:57 |
| Sosumi | Former SIED director joining Ongoing | Oct 16 20:57 |
| Sosumi | and those revolving doors between SIS/SIED and Ongoing and the warrantless spying is nothing new | Oct 16 21:04 |
| Sosumi | it has been knows widelly since 2009 | Oct 16 21:04 |
| Sosumi | well before the subject was killed by the media | Oct 16 21:05 |
| Sosumi | and replaced with trivia | Oct 16 21:05 |
| Sosumi | as usual | Oct 16 21:05 |
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| sebsebseb | hi | Oct 16 21:06 |
| Sosumi | seb³ | Oct 16 21:07 |
| sebsebseb | Sosumi: uh meant too be making another slide show or two | Oct 16 21:08 |
| sebsebseb | Sosumi: I plan too speak at http://oggcamp.org this weekend | Oct 16 21:08 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | oggcamp.org | OggCamp | Oct 16 21:08 |
| sebsebseb | at least a five minutes Lightning Talk | Oct 16 21:08 |
| sebsebseb | maybe my own room depends | Oct 16 21:08 |
| Sosumi | nice | Oct 16 21:08 |
| sebsebseb | Sosumi: own room needs votes | Oct 16 21:09 |
| sebsebseb | voted in | Oct 16 21:09 |
| sebsebseb | need enough votes or no talk | Oct 16 21:09 |
| sebsebseb | also if the vote sytem goes down on me like last year when I need vvotes i guess not talk agian | Oct 16 21:09 |
| Sosumi | "Lightning Talks | Oct 16 21:10 |
| Sosumi | - This year the main stage will play host to a half-hour session of 5-minute lightning talks. Sign-up details will be given on the day." | Oct 16 21:10 |
| Sosumi | no voting yet | Oct 16 21:10 |
| Sosumi | but I wonte forget to vote on you, no worries | Oct 16 21:10 |
| Sosumi | seb³ for head of Mageia propaganda office | Oct 16 21:11 |
| Sosumi | sad that the event is also sponsored by Moronical | Oct 16 21:12 |
| Sosumi | ho and M$ has officially turned Mantle down | Oct 16 21:16 |
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| Sosumi | monopoly$oft trying to keep competition out of DX | Oct 16 21:27 |
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| DaemonFC | $400 | Oct 16 22:09 |
| DaemonFC | Car is running good though. | Oct 16 22:09 |
| Sosumi | hows the debt ceiling thing going? | Oct 16 22:40 |
| Sosumi | will blood run on the street? :) | Oct 16 22:41 |
| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer shared a link. | Oct 16 22:50 |
| DaemonFC | 5 hours ago | Oct 16 22:50 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2013/10/16/government-shutdown-debt-limit-congress-deal/2993181/ | Oct 16 22:50 |
| DaemonFC | The Republicans seem to have come to their senses at the last minute and start behaving like grown ups (for the moment). | Oct 16 22:50 |
| DaemonFC | For now, they won't get the Social Security and Medicare cuts and middle class tax hikes (Chained CPI) that they wanted. The only thing they got through is something that I actually agree with. Income verification for people wanting health insurance on the new exchanges. | Oct 16 22:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.usatoday.com | House agrees to move Senate debt ceiling deal [ http://ur1.ca/fwh2t ] | Oct 16 22:50 |
| Sosumi | sounds to me like a mix of wag the dog and the death by a thousand cuts | Oct 16 22:53 |
| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer | Oct 16 22:53 |
| DaemonFC | 2 seconds ago | Oct 16 22:53 |
| DaemonFC | The Weather Channel's website has really gotten annoying. Now they even have "Vista 8" style tiles. | Oct 16 22:53 |
| DaemonFC | *barf* | Oct 16 22:53 |
| DaemonFC | I need to switch my start page to Weather Underground. Last night, it was storming while the Weather Channel said "clear with 0% chance of rain". Fail. | Oct 16 22:53 |
| Sosumi | you know, 8 stands for infinity, literally, lol | Oct 16 22:55 |
| Sosumi | so vista 8 = infinite possibilities of disaster | Oct 16 22:55 |
| Sosumi | and now the new Vista 8.1 is the same thing | Oct 16 22:56 |
| Sosumi | because 8.1=8 | Oct 16 22:56 |
| Sosumi | math never lies | Oct 16 22:56 |
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| Sosumi | although, vista 8 is less than a disaster than OSX | Oct 16 23:06 |
| Sosumi | Launchpad? seriously... | Oct 16 23:06 |
| Sosumi | what M$ did with the tiles thing was merge the Dashboard and Launchpad | Oct 16 23:07 |
| Sosumi | basically, two jokes into a bigger joke | Oct 16 23:07 |
| Sosumi | but at least they made it funccional with live tiles and bloat | Oct 16 23:08 |
| Sosumi | that's why it's better (like in comparing poop) | Oct 16 23:08 |
| Sosumi | and I say it trully | Oct 16 23:10 |
| Sosumi | I don't like KDE | Oct 16 23:10 |
| Sosumi | but on my opinion it's the best GUI i've used | Oct 16 23:11 |
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| Sosumi | enlightned ranks there too, | Oct 16 23:11 |
| Sosumi | also very nice to use | Oct 16 23:11 |
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| Sosumi | http://news.firedoglake.com/2013/09/13/saudis-sending-deathrow-prisoners-to-fight-with-rebels-in-syria/ | Oct 16 23:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | news.firedoglake.com | Saudis Sending Death Row Prisoners To Fight With Rebels In Syria | FDL News Desk [ http://ur1.ca/fwh7b ] | Oct 16 23:12 |
| Sosumi | reality distorcion field -> got to love those peace loving middle eastern democracies | Oct 16 23:13 |
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| Sosumi | http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-10-16/keith-alexander-nsa-head-stepping-down | Oct 16 23:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.zerohedge.com | Keith Alexander, NSA Head, Stepping Down | Zero Hedge [ http://ur1.ca/fwh7y ] | Oct 16 23:15 |
| Sosumi | he's going to spend the rest of is life as a "cutter", like in the 2004 film "The Final Cut" | Oct 16 23:16 |
| Sosumi | http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0364343/ | Oct 16 23:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.imdb.com | The Final Cut (2004) - IMDb | Oct 16 23:16 |
| MinceR | gn | Oct 16 23:21 |
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| DaemonFC | I'm going to try to get the body parts I need for my car from a junkyard. | Oct 17 00:44 |
| DaemonFC | Hopefully I can find a '96 Crown Victoria that hasn't had any front end damage that's the same color. | Oct 17 00:45 |
| DaemonFC | If I can do that, I won't need to paint anything. | Oct 17 00:45 |
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| iophk | http://www.zdnet.com/samba-4-1-brings-linux-desktop-and-mac-files-from-windows-8-server-2012-7000021945/ | Oct 17 07:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.zdnet.com | Samba 4.1 brings Linux desktop and Mac files from Windows 8, Server 2012 | ZDNet [ http://ur1.ca/fwjjx ] | Oct 17 07:53 |
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| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3178982 | Oct 17 09:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: NSA Has Spurred Renewed Interest In Thorough Security Audits Of Popular 'Secure' Software http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20131015/10040524884/nsa-has-spurred-renewed-interest-thorough-security-audits-popular-secure-software.shtml #truecrypt | Oct 17 09:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.techdirt.com | NSA Has Spurred Renewed Interest In Thorough Security Audits Of Popular 'Secure' Software | Techdirt [ http://ur1.ca/fwfxb ] | Oct 17 09:17 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "While I don't think TrueCrypt has been OSI-certified, I'm pretty sure the source is available and many of objections by the distro maintainers have been alleviated." | Oct 17 09:18 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | " | Oct 17 09:21 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | The problem is that people think they can run free software on top of non free software like Windows or OSX. That's transparently foolish, but people think they can somehow hide things from an OS that's logging their keystrokes and everything else they do. | Oct 17 09:21 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | The same problems happen when you put non free software, like Nvidia drivers or Flash, on top of GNU/Linux. Regardless of what the owners say, non free software always has the power to betray the user. | Oct 17 09:21 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Techdirt and most of the tech press do not do enough to convince people this is true. This article leaves the reader with the impression that precompiled binaries for Windows can somehow be audited and then have some privacy on Windows. The tech press in general has failed badly to understand what's really at stake with software freedom. Most of it is infiltrated and subverted by Microsoft and other non free software companies | Oct 17 09:21 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | that won't allow them to say that non free software is immoral and impossible to trust or verify. | Oct 17 09:21 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | " | Oct 17 09:21 |
| iophk | Also the drivers have kernel-level access. | Oct 17 09:21 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | I agree with Will, except for the accusation of sorts against TechDirt, which should generally know better about FOSS (Mike Masnick usually does better than that and I had noticed his omission also). | Oct 17 09:22 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | " | Oct 17 09:22 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Yes, I agree with you in that regard. Though I would add that if we take it to the extreme, even open-source binaries can't be trusted either as it's entirely possible to replace a file in transit. | Oct 17 09:22 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | If we let this logic run its course everyone should be using 100% GPL code that they compile themselves. The problem is, that's a reality in terms of technical feasibility for very, very few people in this world. | Oct 17 09:22 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | " | Oct 17 09:22 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | One of our clients in the UK govt. require us to have a formal build process with much auditing even for FOSS, for this very reason. | Oct 17 09:23 |
| brendyn | It doesn't need to be GPL? | Oct 17 09:23 |
| iophk | The binaries can be replaced in transit if they are not signed. AFAIK RPM and APT keep checksums and then the register of checksums is PGP signed. | Oct 17 09:23 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | *requires | Oct 17 09:23 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3172412 | Oct 17 09:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Techrights Was Right About Skype All Along http://techrights.org/2013/10/14/techrights-on-skype/ #skype #privacy | Oct 17 09:24 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "Dr. Roy. I like your site. Lot of interesting reading. But you really need to give it a facelift , the layout looks awful. You have this transparent right margin going straight through the live news and pages boxes. I know it is all about content but... :-)" | Oct 17 09:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techrights.org | Techrights Was Right About Skype All Along | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/fwjye ] | Oct 17 09:24 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | other people mentioned the same layout issue. It has been like this for nearly 7 years - layout has been preserved for consistency, unlikely to change in the near future but might | Oct 17 09:25 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/3181229 | Oct 17 09:33 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.joindiaspora.com | ### #Golf ball hitting #steel at 150mph, recorded at 70 000fps [ http://ur1.ca/fwjzl ] | Oct 17 09:33 |
| MinceR | r4wr | Oct 17 09:42 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3178996 | Oct 17 09:45 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Just because one way or another the NSA's cybercriminals can get your data doesn't justify giving up and making it easier for them. | Oct 17 09:45 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "I have so many friends, friends who love their Android phones and their Kindle Fires, who constantly respond to continuing NSA revelations with "they're going to get it no matter what," "I have nothing to hide," etc. There's a lot of defeatists out there right now, unfortunately." | Oct 17 09:45 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Defeatists are a real issue, but worse are those who ridicule those who aren;t. | Oct 17 09:45 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3178718 | Oct 17 09:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Steve Ballmer's slogan is similar to that of another (think Godwin Law), but then again, Microsoft is saving the world, in its own mind. | Oct 17 09:47 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "It was my impression that they would soon disappear, and that was in 1998. Why they still exist is a mystery to me." | Oct 17 09:47 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | In 1998 microsoft had massive losses it had hidden, but it continued to serve NSA by harvesting data on the whole world. | Oct 17 09:48 |
| MinceR | saving the world from itself? that would be nice, if a little overdue | Oct 17 09:48 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3178538 | Oct 17 09:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Linux only needs one 'killer' game to explode, says Battlefield director http://www.polygon.com/2013/10/12/4826190/linux-only-needs-one-killer-game-to-explode-says-battlefield-director #gnu #linux #game #killerapp | Oct 17 09:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.polygon.com | Linux only needs one 'killer' game to explode, says Battlefield director | Polygon [ http://ur1.ca/fwk21 ] | Oct 17 09:48 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "And this has been true for the last 15 years." | Oct 17 09:48 |
| iophk | http://mrpogson.com/2013/10/16/laptop-computers-at-walmart-now-include-lots-of-linux/ | Oct 17 09:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | mrpogson.com | Laptop Computers At Walmart Now Include Lots Of */Linux | Robert Pogson [ http://ur1.ca/fwk39 ] | Oct 17 09:54 |
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| schestowitz_bed2 | http://www.yourfuturejob.com/job/linux-technical-expert-%E2%80%93-linux-format-fp00417/ http://tuxradar.com/content/linux-format-hiring | Oct 17 10:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.yourfuturejob.com | Linux Technical Expert – Linux Format | Job vacancy, posted: October 7, 2013 | Future Publishing Jobs [ http://ur1.ca/fwk7z ] | Oct 17 10:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | tuxradar.com | Linux Format is hiring | TuxRadar Linux [ http://ur1.ca/fwk80 ] | Oct 17 10:17 |
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| schestowitz_bed2 | singling out android for security FUD | Oct 17 13:11 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | http://www.av-test.org/en/about-the-institute/partners/ | Oct 17 13:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.av-test.org | AV-TEST - The Independent IT-Security Institute: Partners [ http://ur1.ca/fwl5s ] | Oct 17 13:11 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | http://www.pcworld.com/article/2052810/security-to-go-three-tips-to-keep-your-mobile-data-safe.html | Oct 17 13:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.pcworld.com | Security to go: Three tips to keep your mobile data safe | PCWorld [ http://ur1.ca/fwl5t ] | Oct 17 13:11 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/3182128 | Oct 17 13:13 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.joindiaspora.com | The United States... [ http://ur1.ca/fwl6h ] | Oct 17 13:13 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://www.joindiaspora.com/p/3182128 | Oct 17 13:13 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.joindiaspora.com | The United States... | Oct 17 13:13 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | More FUD http://www.itworld.com/open-source/378831/will-android-survive-chaos-google-samsung-and-htc | Oct 17 13:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.itworld.com | Will Android survive the chaos of Google, Samsung and HTC? | ITworld [ http://ur1.ca/fwl6y ] | Oct 17 13:17 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | along the same lines as yesterday's | Oct 17 13:17 |
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| Sosumi | well, gnu/linux needs a killer app | Oct 17 14:50 |
| Sosumi | why not release BF4 for it then? | Oct 17 14:51 |
| Sosumi | DICE and EA = joke | Oct 17 14:51 |
| Sosumi | http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/10/windows-8-1-what-a-difference-a-year-makes/ | Oct 17 14:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | arstechnica.com | Windows 8.1: What a difference a year makes | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/fwljn ] | Oct 17 14:53 |
| Sosumi | peter bright's review, sponsored by M$ | Oct 17 14:54 |
| Sosumi | because damm, no words to describe the amount of failure vista is | Oct 17 14:54 |
| Sosumi | and the guy praises the thing | Oct 17 14:54 |
| Sosumi | it's a disaster, M$ should just scrap the entire metro interface | Oct 17 14:55 |
| Sosumi | which is just two failures (dashboard and launchpad) merged together | Oct 17 14:56 |
| Sosumi | http://www.pcworld.com/article/2055640/apples-claim-of-unbreakable-imessage-encryption-basically-lies-researchers-say.html | Oct 17 15:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.macworld.com | Researchers challenge Apple's claim of unbreakable iMessage encryption | Macworld [ http://ur1.ca/fwlna ] | Oct 17 15:23 |
| iophk | bright and other shills seem to be in every publication now. | Oct 17 15:36 |
| iophk | Some have several at the same time. | Oct 17 15:36 |
| iophk | Some have many, like the BBC | Oct 17 15:36 |
| iophk | Even The Guardian has at least one. | Oct 17 15:41 |
| Sosumi | I'm surprised he didn't write 20 pages+ review | Oct 17 15:53 |
| Sosumi | like they do for OSX reviews | Oct 17 15:53 |
| iophk | http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2301281/canonical-steals-windows-81s-thunder-with-ubuntu-1310-release | Oct 17 15:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.theinquirer.net | Canonical steals Windows 8.1's thunder with Ubuntu 13.10 release- The Inquirer [ http://ur1.ca/fwlr5 ] | Oct 17 15:56 |
| iophk | "Canonical is touting the Ubuntu 13.10 release as the "first step to mobile [and] PC convergence"" | Oct 17 15:56 |
| iophk | IIRC it still has the spyware issue by default. | Oct 17 15:56 |
| iophk | Xubuntu, Lubuntu, and Kubuntu don't | Oct 17 15:57 |
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| Sosumi | yay moronical | Oct 17 16:04 |
| Sosumi | praising M$ and supporting mono | Oct 17 16:05 |
| Sosumi | and ofc, sending searches by default to amazon | Oct 17 16:05 |
| MinceR | also praising crApple | Oct 17 16:06 |
| MinceR | and attacking other GNU/Linux distributions | Oct 17 16:06 |
| MinceR | and demanding "respect" for all this | Oct 17 16:07 |
| Sosumi | yep | Oct 17 16:10 |
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| Sosumi | http://www.cinemablend.com/games/crytek-admits-microsoft-had-rewrite-xbox-one-code-run-software-59912.html | Oct 17 16:26 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.cinemablend.com | Crytek Admits Microsoft Had To Rewrite Xbox One Code To Run Software [ http://ur1.ca/fwlt7 ] | Oct 17 16:26 |
| Sosumi | also, ps4 running BF4 at 900p, xbone at 700p | Oct 17 16:27 |
| Sosumi | hopefully m$ gaming division finally dies this year | Oct 17 16:27 |
| Sosumi | I mean, this gen | Oct 17 16:28 |
| iophk | it has been a money loser for a long time, they'll keep pouring money into it just to try to hurt Nintendo and Sony. | Oct 17 16:30 |
| iophk | Ouya might hurt them, too. | Oct 17 16:31 |
| iophk | Same with Steambox. | Oct 17 16:31 |
| iophk | The market is getting even more competitive. | Oct 17 16:31 |
| Sosumi | ouya was kind of a failure | Oct 17 16:31 |
| iophk | not yet | Oct 17 16:31 |
| Sosumi | and nintendo is failing with their game gear | Oct 17 16:32 |
| Sosumi | I mean wii u | Oct 17 16:32 |
| iophk | yeah | Oct 17 16:32 |
| iophk | The Wii is still doing ok though last I heard. | Oct 17 16:33 |
| Sosumi | yeah kind of, among the casual ppl | Oct 17 16:33 |
| Sosumi | and children | Oct 17 16:33 |
| iophk | Steam will cut into that part of the market. | Oct 17 16:34 |
| iophk | There's no place for the xbone, the high end is taken and the low end is taken and the middle is not big | Oct 17 16:34 |
| iophk | then there are all the drawbacks that scare away buyers | Oct 17 16:35 |
| iophk | Too bad Sony screwed so many people over badly with the rootkit and the OtherOS fiasco. | Oct 17 16:35 |
| Sosumi | yep, I really hope the steambox actually succeedes | Oct 17 16:35 |
| iophk | Steambox can be a good low-end desktop for mail and surfing. | Oct 17 16:36 |
| Sosumi | although outside the console ppl, pc gaming as never been stronger | Oct 17 16:36 |
| Sosumi | as it is now | Oct 17 16:36 |
| iophk | As more go back to OpenGL that could change. | Oct 17 16:36 |
| iophk | Many gamers only what what is fastest. | Oct 17 16:36 |
| Sosumi | fastest and easiest to get the games running | Oct 17 16:37 |
| Sosumi | that's why consoles are usually the go to | Oct 17 16:37 |
| iophk | Can't beat the graphical package managers in Linux | Oct 17 16:37 |
| iophk | those are very easy. | Oct 17 16:37 |
| Sosumi | but PC gaming, you know those ppl that build their systems, is stronger than ever | Oct 17 16:38 |
| Sosumi | yeah, well, let's hope nvidia doesn't screw things more than they already did | Oct 17 16:38 |
| iophk | They're still not out of the woods. | Oct 17 16:38 |
| iophk | old - http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/09/nvidia-seeks-peace-with-linux-pledges-help-on-open-source-driver/ | Oct 17 16:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | arstechnica.com | Nvidia seeks peace with Linux, pledges help on open source driver (Updated) | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/fwlug ] | Oct 17 16:40 |
| Sosumi | help... | Oct 17 16:40 |
| Sosumi | and then they cripple their linux driver to keep parity with winblows | Oct 17 16:40 |
| iophk | I'm surprised that with the nsa revelations there is not more outrage about the binary-only, proprietary blobs. You can hide a lot of stuff in a few megs. | Oct 17 16:41 |
| Sosumi | no oficial support for cuda on latest releases | Oct 17 16:41 |
| Sosumi | no one cares about the NSA | Oct 17 16:41 |
| iophk | https://matt.ucc.asn.au/dropbear/dropbear.html | Oct 17 16:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | matt.ucc.asn.au | Dropbear SSH [ http://ur1.ca/fwluh ] | Oct 17 16:41 |
| iophk | "Dropbear can compile to a 110kB statically linked" | Oct 17 16:41 |
| Sosumi | and if I mention it I easily get confronted with the typical dr. Goebbels kind of response | Oct 17 16:42 |
| Sosumi | remember, if you have nothing to hide you also have nothing to fear | Oct 17 16:48 |
| Sosumi | sheeple :( | Oct 17 16:49 |
| iophk | http://chronicle.com/article/Why-Privacy-Matters-Even-if/127461/ | Oct 17 16:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Couldn't resolve host 'chronicle.com' ( status 0 @ http://chronicle.com/article/Why-Privacy-Matters-Even-if/127461/ ) | Oct 17 16:50 |
| iophk | http://www.infoworld.com/t/networking/your-next-network-operating-system-linux-228846 | Oct 17 17:02 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.infoworld.com | Your next network operating system is Linux | Networking - InfoWorld [ http://ur1.ca/fwlvz ] | Oct 17 17:02 |
| iophk | http://www.nanaimodailynews.com/business/former-nokia-ceo-ollila-concedes-mistakes-after-piloting-finnish-company-to-global-stature-1.662482 | Oct 17 17:52 |
| iophk | no comment there about the sell out to M$ | Oct 17 17:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.nanaimodailynews.com | Former Nokia CEO Ollila concedes mistakes after piloting Finnish company to global stature - Business - Nanaimo Daily News [ http://ur1.ca/fwm03 ] | Oct 17 17:52 |
| iophk | a bit of revisionism about Elop, claiming that he wasn't the trojan horse that he turned out to be | Oct 17 17:53 |
| iophk | The summary misleads a little about the purchase which does not include the purchase of patents, only the lease of them | Oct 17 17:54 |
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| Sosumi | http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/10/bittorrent-site-isohunt-will-shut-down-pay-mpaa-110-million/ | Oct 17 19:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | arstechnica.com | BitTorrent site IsoHunt will shut down, pay MPAA $110 million | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/fwmdg ] | Oct 17 19:43 |
| Sosumi | :( | Oct 17 19:43 |
| MinceR | :( | Oct 17 19:43 |
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| sebsebseb | hi ThistleWeb | Oct 17 21:53 |
| ThistleWeb | o/ | Oct 17 21:53 |
| sebsebseb | I am planning on doing a talk | Oct 17 21:54 |
| sebsebseb | at OGG Camp this weekend :) | Oct 17 21:54 |
| sebsebseb | ,but still need to make some slides in that case | Oct 17 21:54 |
| sebsebseb | I am thinking show them Mageia 2 with the control centre, on the other hand it's end of life in abut a month, but that first, then got a intresetingfeature to show in the development version that looks like three as well since new artwork not implemented yet | Oct 17 21:55 |
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| MinceR | gn | Oct 17 22:27 |
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| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/390956393605656576 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/390956531501789184 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/390957245510721536 | Oct 17 22:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Ars Technica has its #Microsoft marketer Peter Bright paste an advert for #vista8 Rev 2 http://t.co/VlZ4sYNlEV | Oct 17 22:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> arstechnica.com | Windows 8.1: What a difference a year makes | Ars Technica | Oct 17 22:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Researchers challenge Apple's claim of 'unbreakable' iMessage encryption http://t.co/lqcsmn2zAP if it's Apple, it's insecure | Oct 17 22:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.macworld.com | Researchers challenge Apple's claim of unbreakable iMessage encryption | Macworld | Oct 17 22:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Your next network operating system is Linux http://t.co/Fu3TvDqczt #linux | Oct 17 22:49 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3182109 | Oct 17 22:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Auditing #truecrypt would be like auditing #diebold machines. Can't if you don't see the source and control the build http://arstechnica.com/security/2013/10/new-effort-to-fully-audit-truecrypt-raises-over-16000-in-a-few-short-weeks/ | Oct 17 22:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> arstechnica.com | New effort to fully audit TrueCrypt raises $16,000+ in a few short weeks | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/fwn20 ] | Oct 17 22:51 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "Indeed. No such thing as an audit unless the binaries audited are the source audited, and audited publicly." | Oct 17 22:51 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3182171 | Oct 17 22:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Cryptographer Adi Shamir Prevented from Attending NSA History Conference | Oct 17 22:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> blogs.fas.org | Cryptographer Adi Shamir Prevented from Attending NSA History Conference - Secrecy News [ http://ur1.ca/fwn22 ] | Oct 17 22:51 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "I could see video conferencing very beneficial in these kinds of situations." | Oct 17 22:51 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "^ that is what I was thinking to myself the other day about free software in general how can you know if the compiled program actually is the same as the source (unless you compile it yourself ofc)" | Oct 17 22:52 |
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| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer | Oct 18 01:02 |
| DaemonFC | about a minute ago · Edited | Oct 18 01:02 |
| DaemonFC | I told the guy at Pearson's about how hard it is to find a vehicle on Craiglist that isn't crap. I told him that one listing which really stuck in my mind was the one where a guy with a 2004 Cadillac with 175,000 miles on it wanted $8,000. So I e-mailed him and asked him why he wanted $8,000. He replied something to the effect of "The chameleon green metallic paint job cost me $6,000 and then there' | Oct 18 01:02 |
| DaemonFC | s the chrome hood ornament of a naked woman.". | Oct 18 01:02 |
| DaemonFC | Gee, isn't that something all of us would be proud to own? | Oct 18 01:02 |
| DaemonFC | Even if the paint job is good and the color isn't revolting (chameleon green?), you should never expect that it will make the resale value of the car equal to FMV + the entire cost of the paint job ($6,000? You can do showroom quality for about $3,500.). At most, you're looking at a $500-$800 addition to the FMV of the car. You should never do restoration work assuming that you'll come out ahead whe | Oct 18 01:02 |
| DaemonFC | n you go to sell it (at least until it's old enough to be considered a classic). You should do it because you like your car, and you want to be proud of what you have. | Oct 18 01:02 |
| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer shared a link. | Oct 18 01:22 |
| DaemonFC | a few seconds ago | Oct 18 01:22 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.google.com/patents/US8254902 | Oct 18 01:22 |
| DaemonFC | Apple patents a way for the police to turn off your cell phone camera while they beat you and your friends. | Oct 18 01:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.google.com | Patent US8254902 - Apparatus and methods for enforcement of policies upon a wireless device - Google Patents | Oct 18 01:22 |
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| lirodon | Microsoft is using petty tactics to keep users in its secure boot trap | Oct 18 04:38 |
| lirodon | by branding the screens of people who dare disable secure boot on 8.1 http://t.co/X1upAPnc5V | Oct 18 04:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Nickedynick: Upgrade to Windows 8.1 today, and get a free (albeit hugely obnoxious) watermark on your desktop! http://t.co/X1upAPnc5V | Oct 18 04:41 |
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| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3183647 | Oct 18 08:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Empire Under Obama: Barack Obama's Global Terror Campaign http://truth-out.org/news/item/19466-empire-under-obama-barack-obamas-global-terror-campaign a war on terror can be terror sometimes | Oct 18 08:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> truth-out.org | Empire Under Obama: Barack Obama's Global Terror Campaign [ http://ur1.ca/fwomi ] | Oct 18 08:19 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | http://diydrones.com/profiles/blogs/happy-droneoween | Oct 18 08:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | diydrones.com | Happy Droneoween! - DIY Drones [ http://ur1.ca/fwomj ] | Oct 18 08:19 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3178982 | Oct 18 08:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: NSA Has Spurred Renewed Interest In Thorough Security Audits Of Popular 'Secure' Software http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20131015/10040524884/nsa-has-spurred-renewed-interest-thorough-security-audits-popular-secure-software.shtml #truecrypt | Oct 18 08:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.techdirt.com | NSA Has Spurred Renewed Interest In Thorough Security Audits Of Popular 'Secure' Software | Techdirt [ http://ur1.ca/fwfxb ] | Oct 18 08:19 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "Divides we are helpless, Jesse. Community run distributions binaries are as good as we can get. No one has the time or ability to inspect everything, freedom must be a community effort. This is why software must have all four software freedoms." | Oct 18 08:19 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3182109 | Oct 18 08:20 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "@Paul: You can't. See this short exchange on Bruce Schneider's blog." | Oct 18 08:20 |
| MinceR | Schneier | Oct 18 08:59 |
| MinceR | geekings | Oct 18 09:05 |
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| iophk | https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2013/10/nsa_harvesting.html | Oct 18 11:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.schneier.com | Schneier on Security: NSA Harvesting Contact Lists [ http://ur1.ca/fwp5t ] | Oct 18 11:46 |
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| iophk | http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/18/world/snowden-says-he-took-no-secret-files-to-russia.html | Oct 18 13:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | myaccount.nytimes.com | Log In - The New York Times [ http://ur1.ca/fwpj4 ] | Oct 18 13:59 |
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| XFaCE | schestowitz: pharma patent extension in Canada as part of CETA: http://www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/6975/125/ | Oct 18 16:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.michaelgeist.ca | Michael Geist - CETA Reached "In Principle", Part Four: Pharma Gets Patent Extension Despite Declining R&D in Canada [ http://ur1.ca/fwpwu ] | Oct 18 16:06 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | thans | Oct 18 16:07 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | tahnks | Oct 18 16:07 |
| XFaCE | np | Oct 18 16:07 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz_bed2: other articles on the agreement: http://www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/6972/125/ http://www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/6973/125/ http://www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/6974/125/ | Oct 18 16:07 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.michaelgeist.ca | Michael Geist - Canada - EU Trade Agreement Reached "In Principle", Part One: Now Release the Text [ http://ur1.ca/fwpwx ] | Oct 18 16:07 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.michaelgeist.ca | Michael Geist - Canada - EU Trade Agreement Reached "In Principle", Part Two: The Intellectual Property Provisions [ http://ur1.ca/fwpwy ] | Oct 18 16:07 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.michaelgeist.ca | Michael Geist - CETA Reached "In Principle", Part Three: Meaningless Claims on Telecom & E-commerce [ http://ur1.ca/fwpwz ] | Oct 18 16:07 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz_bed2: and wouldn't you know, this was another opaque process | Oct 18 16:08 |
| Sosumi | http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-10-17/janet-yellen-exposed-truth-behind-myth-0 | Oct 18 16:08 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.zerohedge.com | Janet Yellen Exposed - The Truth Behind The Myth | Zero Hedge [ http://ur1.ca/fwpx5 ] | Oct 18 16:08 |
| Sosumi | she's Bilbo Bagins distant cousin | Oct 18 16:09 |
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| lirodon | so apparently Microsoft is now using a new method to shove secure boot down our throats | Oct 18 16:30 |
| lirodon | anyone who upgrades to Windows 8.1 gets shamed by a desktop watermark if they have secure boot capable hardware (heck, some people who can't use it are getting it too) but have it disabled | Oct 18 16:32 |
| MinceR | indeed | Oct 18 16:33 |
| MinceR | a colleague got it too | Oct 18 16:33 |
| lirodon | yeah, its not configured properly. They don't want you to run anything else | Oct 18 16:34 |
| XFaCE | http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dn441535.aspx | Oct 18 16:38 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | technet.microsoft.com | "Secure Boot isn't configured correctly" watermark on the desktop [ http://ur1.ca/fwq0i ] | Oct 18 16:38 |
| XFaCE | no way to turn it off officially either | Oct 18 16:38 |
| XFaCE | not surprised | Oct 18 16:38 |
| MinceR | oh, i know a way | Oct 18 16:41 |
| MinceR | http://crunchbang.org/ | Oct 18 16:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | crunchbang.org | CrunchBang - a nimble Openbox Linux Distro | Oct 18 16:41 |
| MinceR | ;) | Oct 18 16:41 |
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| Sosumi | M$ lol | Oct 18 16:50 |
| MinceR | http://blogs.hbr.org/2013/10/how-dilbert-practically-wrote-itself/ | Oct 18 16:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | blogs.hbr.org | How "Dilbert" Practically Wrote Itself - Meghan Ennes - Harvard Business Review [ http://ur1.ca/fwq22 ] | Oct 18 16:53 |
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| lirodon | XFaCE: they're treating it like a "problem" to shamelessly tell people to turn it back on | Oct 18 17:01 |
| XFaCE | lirodon: looks like a new build may fix this "bug" | Oct 18 17:02 |
| lirodon | XFaCE: I heard the GA Rollup was supposed to fix it | Oct 18 17:02 |
| lirodon | Personally, if I wanted to treat that as a problem, I'd put it as an Action Center notification | Oct 18 17:02 |
| lirodon | i.e. "Your computer supports UEFI secure boot, but it is not enabled. Enable it in your UEFI firmware settings to improve system security // Turn off messages about secure boot" | Oct 18 17:03 |
| MinceR | it's a problem for them | Oct 18 17:04 |
| MinceR | your pc isn't locked into their crap | Oct 18 17:04 |
| lirodon | 8.1 also tries to force you into using a Microsoft Account sign-in by using disturbing dark patterns | Oct 18 18:14 |
| lirodon | and sends all search data to Bing regardless of type | Oct 18 18:14 |
| Sosumi | all of them? | Oct 18 18:27 |
| Sosumi | not even crApple does that with Spotlight | Oct 18 18:28 |
| lirodon | http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9241524/Steven_J._Vaughan_Nichols_Microsoft_Bing_bang_bungles_local_search?ref=1 | Oct 18 19:08 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.computerworld.com | Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols: Microsoft Bing-bang-bungles local search - Computerworld [ http://ur1.ca/fwqd9 ] | Oct 18 19:08 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3183656 | Oct 18 19:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Ars Technica has its #Microsoft marketer Peter Bright paste an advert for #vista8 Rev 2 http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/10/windows-8-1-what-a-difference-a-year-makes/ | Oct 18 19:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> arstechnica.com | Windows 8.1: What a difference a year makes | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/fwljn ] | Oct 18 19:59 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "Microsoft hates everyone." | Oct 18 19:59 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "Lol yes .... M$ only love $ ^^ Well there is a stupid but funny translation (as a joke) of "Windows from Microsoft by Bill Gates" in french : "Fenêtres de Minidou(x) par Guillaume Portail" And Minidou (without 'x') in France is minidou washing liquid" | Oct 18 19:59 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "They hate themselves too. Everyone is a pawn to Bill Gates. One of the co founders left when he overheard Gates and another founder conspiring to rob his family if he died." | Oct 18 20:00 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3185564 | Oct 18 20:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: When Progress is Outlawed | Oct 18 20:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techrights.org | When Progress is Outlawed | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/fwqji ] | Oct 18 20:05 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "I think things are so shrill because the usual method of control by jailing and economically ruining people has run into a fundamental limit. Information is spreading faster than the rich and powerful can eliminate people. There's some hope in that." | Oct 18 20:05 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3184734 | Oct 18 20:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: SparkFun Ponders Women in STEM Fields http://hackaday.com/2013/10/17/sparkfun-ponders-women-in-stem-fields/ anomaly not found much in the East | Oct 18 20:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> hackaday.com | SparkFun Ponders Women in STEM Fields [ http://ur1.ca/fwqjk ] | Oct 18 20:06 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "There was an interesting interview on NPR the other day about the dismal overall job market in the US. There are about 400,000 STEM graduates each year for about 200,000 new jobs. A country that has offshored most of it's manufacturing hasThere was an interesting interview on NPR the other day about the dismal overall job market in the US. There are about 400,000 STEM graduates each year for about 200,000 new jobs. A country that | Oct 18 20:06 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | has offshored most of it's manufacturing has little need for scientists and engineers. I wonder how many of the remaining jobs are weapons related." little need for scientists and engineers. I wonder how many of the remaining jobs are weapons related. | Oct 18 20:06 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | " | Oct 18 20:11 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > Hi Roy, | Oct 18 20:11 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > | Oct 18 20:11 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > CMSWire is assembling a discussion point article that tackles the | Oct 18 20:11 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > question: /Will the decision by W3C to include encrypted media | Oct 18 20:11 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > extensions <http://www.w3.org/TR/encrypted-media/> into the HTML5.1 | Oct 18 20:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.w3.org | Encrypted Media Extensions | Oct 18 20:11 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > standard have a positive or negative effect on web experiences?/ | Oct 18 20:11 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > / | Oct 18 20:11 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > / | Oct 18 20:11 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > Below is a previous Discussion Point for reference: | Oct 18 20:11 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > / | Oct 18 20:12 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > / | Oct 18 20:12 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > Discussion Point: Records Management Influenced by Cloud, Collaboration | Oct 18 20:12 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > Technologies | Oct 18 20:12 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > <http://www.cmswire.com/cms/information-management/discussion-point-records-management-influenced-by-cloud-collaboration-technologies-021518.php>/ | Oct 18 20:12 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > / | Oct 18 20:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.cmswire.com | Discussion Point: Records Management Influenced by Cloud, Collaboration Technologies [ http://ur1.ca/fwqky ] | Oct 18 20:12 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > | Oct 18 20:12 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > Would you be interested in providing your thoughts on this question? The | Oct 18 20:12 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > response should be roughly 3-4 paragraphs. We will be including a short | Oct 18 20:12 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > bio and photo in the article. | Oct 18 20:12 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > | Oct 18 20:12 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > Please let me know if you would like to contribute. We'd like to have | Oct 18 20:12 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > responses in by October 22nd. | Oct 18 20:12 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | I would be happy to write a piece if it's guaranteed publication. | Oct 18 20:12 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | " | Oct 18 20:12 |
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| Sosumi | so since M$ is collecting info on everyone for advertising starting vista 8.1 | Oct 18 20:30 |
| Sosumi | that means vista 8.1 is free? | Oct 18 20:30 |
| Sosumi | just like the ObamaPhone | Oct 18 20:30 |
| Sosumi | M$ is like meth, not even once | Oct 18 20:31 |
| MinceR | no, it would be too expensive even if it was gratis | Oct 18 20:32 |
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| Sosumi | so I guess I'll no longer be able to use global search to find the F35 drawings | Oct 18 20:51 |
| Sosumi | or the F22 flight manuals | Oct 18 20:51 |
| Sosumi | no my improvised explovives and gerrilla warfare manuals | Oct 18 20:52 |
| Sosumi | :) | Oct 18 20:52 |
| Sosumi | or I'll get someone knocking at my door | Oct 18 20:52 |
| MinceR | plus it's unlikely to work reliably anyway | Oct 18 20:55 |
| Sosumi | who knows :) | Oct 18 21:03 |
| Sosumi | but for certain, I don't want to test it | Oct 18 21:04 |
| JimmyCarter | some people like word excel and paint | Oct 18 21:04 |
| Sosumi | and IE | Oct 18 21:04 |
| JimmyCarter | mostly just poor indoctrinated old dogs | Oct 18 21:05 |
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| MinceR | some people are idiots | Oct 18 21:09 |
| MinceR | also, even excel got much worse lately | Oct 18 21:09 |
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| Sosumi | you mean this excel? | Oct 18 21:11 |
| Sosumi | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1Hdp3hRLCQ | Oct 18 21:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.youtube.com | Excel Saga Complete Opening - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/fwqr5 ] | Oct 18 21:11 |
| Sosumi | I think it's awesome | Oct 18 21:11 |
| MinceR | no, not that excel | Oct 18 21:12 |
| Sosumi | :) | Oct 18 21:13 |
| MinceR | i meant the one that pretends to be a spreadsheet application | Oct 18 21:13 |
| Sosumi | it's much worse than it was before the amount of space the menus take vs the spreadsheet itself | Oct 18 21:14 |
| MinceR | indeed | Oct 18 21:14 |
| Sosumi | *because | Oct 18 21:14 |
| MinceR | the amounts of clicks necessary for an action also increased | Oct 18 21:14 |
| Sosumi | yes | Oct 18 21:14 |
| MinceR | the organization of the ribbon is an illogical mess | Oct 18 21:14 |
| MinceR | the file format kept the problems of the old one and added a slew of new problems | Oct 18 21:14 |
| MinceR | and the whole thing is even slower than it was | Oct 18 21:15 |
| MinceR | (and they know it, since they've added another splash screen) | Oct 18 21:15 |
| Sosumi | all that because of m$ wanting to make something touch/stylus friendly | Oct 18 21:15 |
| MinceR | nope | Oct 18 21:15 |
| MinceR | all that because m$ wants to get people used to a ui they own patents on | Oct 18 21:15 |
| MinceR | (even though they didn't even invent it in the first place) | Oct 18 21:15 |
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| Sosumi | well that I didn't know | Oct 18 21:16 |
| Sosumi | but from my perspectibe ribbon only seems to work well on a tablet like surface | Oct 18 21:16 |
| Sosumi | on the desktop it's plain bad | Oct 18 21:16 |
| Sosumi | and even mathworks moved to it | Oct 18 21:16 |
| Sosumi | shamefully | Oct 18 21:17 |
| MinceR | i don't see how it could work well | Oct 18 21:17 |
| MinceR | you still click on a top level menu item-sized (and shaped) item and then a button | Oct 18 21:17 |
| MinceR | and the buttons vary wildly in size and shape | Oct 18 21:17 |
| MinceR | and some buttons pop up a menu | Oct 18 21:17 |
| Sosumi | I just said that from the pictures I saw from the thing | Oct 18 21:17 |
| MinceR | ic | Oct 18 21:18 |
| Sosumi | never used it nor I intend to | Oct 18 21:18 |
| MinceR | and they _know_ it sucks, as they've tried to compensate for it with an idiotic context-sensitive popup toolbar | Oct 18 21:18 |
| MinceR | (which mainly just manages to get in the way and fade in and out randomly) | Oct 18 21:19 |
| Sosumi | it hides? | Oct 18 21:19 |
| MinceR | sometimes it does | Oct 18 21:19 |
| Sosumi | lulz | Oct 18 21:19 |
| MinceR | i think it depends on where the pointer is | Oct 18 21:19 |
| MinceR | (which of course wouldn't work on a tablet) | Oct 18 21:19 |
| Sosumi | what is shamefull is that now you can't even expect privacy on what you do inside your machine | Oct 18 21:23 |
| Sosumi | ubuntu started, now M$ is doing | Oct 18 21:23 |
| Sosumi | it too | Oct 18 21:25 |
| Sosumi | google also does it on android | Oct 18 21:26 |
| MinceR | how? | Oct 18 21:26 |
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| Sosumi | article said searches on android are sent to google | Oct 18 21:26 |
| MinceR | using the search widget? | Oct 18 21:27 |
| Sosumi | think sop | Oct 18 21:32 |
| Sosumi | also, doesn't all website data get sent to google if you use chrome? | Oct 18 21:34 |
| MinceR | i don't know | Oct 18 21:36 |
| MinceR | i don't use chrome | Oct 18 21:36 |
| Sosumi | that was from what I read | Oct 18 21:37 |
| Sosumi | and ye I don't use chrome either | Oct 18 21:38 |
| Sosumi | but it only makes sense for google to do so since they're basically an advertising company | Oct 18 21:48 |
| Sosumi | *that | Oct 18 21:49 |
| Sosumi | "I'm not saying that this type of functionality is unprecedented. Google has long incorporated that kind of capability in Android and Google Instant search." | Oct 18 21:50 |
| Sosumi | that's quoting the article | Oct 18 21:50 |
| Sosumi | http://android.stackexchange.com/questions/43361/what-information-does-stock-android-send-to-google-by-default-and-how-do-i-opt | Oct 18 21:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | android.stackexchange.com | privacy - What information does stock Android send to Google by default, and how do I opt-out? - Android Enthusiasts Stack Exchange [ http://ur1.ca/fwqu1 ] | Oct 18 21:50 |
| MinceR | ic | Oct 18 21:51 |
| Sosumi | android is no better than the others | Oct 18 21:52 |
| Sosumi | in the end it's like comparing poop | Oct 18 21:52 |
| Sosumi | saying that this one smells less bad than the other | Oct 18 21:53 |
| MinceR | only from a privacy standpoint | Oct 18 21:53 |
| Sosumi | yep, but privacy is important | Oct 18 21:53 |
| MinceR | indeed | Oct 18 21:54 |
| MinceR | but that doesn't make a choice of mobile os meaningless | Oct 18 21:54 |
| Sosumi | you don't want all your private life to be open to whomever wants to buy it nor open for the intelligence agencies to profile you | Oct 18 21:54 |
| Sosumi | nop, because android you can actually strip down the entire thing | Oct 18 21:55 |
| Sosumi | on the others you can't | Oct 18 21:55 |
| Sosumi | and on the case of the android forks for example | Oct 18 21:58 |
| Sosumi | you don't know what aditional code samsung or any other company put in there | Oct 18 21:58 |
| Sosumi | that is why I say, for getting a phone | Oct 18 21:59 |
| Sosumi | better get a nexus | Oct 18 21:59 |
| Sosumi | because the thing comes with the bootloader unlocked | Oct 18 21:59 |
| Sosumi | so you don't lose the warranty in case things go bad | Oct 18 21:59 |
| MinceR | my problem with nexii is that they don't have a memory card slot | Oct 18 21:59 |
| MinceR | so if the phone breaks, all my data on it becomes inaccessible | Oct 18 21:59 |
| Sosumi | yeah, it's bad | Oct 18 21:59 |
| MinceR | otherwise i could just take the card out and keep using it | Oct 18 22:00 |
| Sosumi | I have the issue | Oct 18 22:00 |
| Sosumi | *same | Oct 18 22:00 |
| MinceR | i guess daily backup to one's own storage device (not someone else's cloud) is the next best thing | Oct 18 22:00 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2013/10/toyota-is-recalling-more-than-800-000-cars-because-of-spiders/280694/ | Oct 18 22:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.theatlantic.com | Toyota Is Recalling More Than 800,000 Cars Because of Spiders - Megan Garber - The Atlantic [ http://ur1.ca/fwquo ] | Oct 18 22:01 |
| DaemonFC | Spiders are causing the airbags to deploy. | Oct 18 22:01 |
| MinceR | :D | Oct 18 22:01 |
| MinceR | invasion of the airbag-deploying spiders | Oct 18 22:02 |
| Sosumi | hilarious | Oct 18 22:03 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, They also turn on the warning lights. | Oct 18 22:06 |
| DaemonFC | Unfortunately, Toyota didn't equip their vehicles with a spider warning light. | Oct 18 22:06 |
| MinceR | neither did anyone else | Oct 18 22:06 |
| DaemonFC | Spiders don't deploy the airbags in a Ford. | Oct 18 22:07 |
| MinceR | it wouldn't do anything anyway, as it's Found On Road Dead :> | Oct 18 22:07 |
| Sosumi | lol | Oct 18 22:07 |
| Sosumi | but you see TOYota is toy car manufaturer | Oct 18 22:08 |
| Sosumi | *a | Oct 18 22:08 |
| Sosumi | I haven't seen any european car commpanies doing racals for things like that | Oct 18 22:09 |
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| MinceR | and here i was worrying about spiders climbing into the vents and fans of my laptops | Oct 18 22:12 |
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| Sosumi | not that many spiders here, but, laptop fans tend to clog quickly | Oct 18 22:15 |
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| DaemonFC | Yeah, I had a guy in a Honda jump out in front of me earlier. | Oct 18 22:38 |
| DaemonFC | A real car does not make a buzzing noise like that. | Oct 18 22:38 |
| DaemonFC | Those things are annoying. You just want to drive right over them. | Oct 18 22:38 |
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| MinceR | what buzzing noise? electric motor? | Oct 18 22:41 |
| DaemonFC | No | Oct 18 22:42 |
| DaemonFC | He had a mid-90s Honda | Oct 18 22:42 |
| DaemonFC | an Accord I think | Oct 18 22:42 |
| MinceR | then the sound of a gas-non-guzzling engine? | Oct 18 22:44 |
| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer shared a link. | Oct 18 22:59 |
| DaemonFC | 14 seconds ago | Oct 18 22:59 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/human_genome/2013/10/analyze_your_child_s_dna_which_grandparents_are_most_genetically_related.html | Oct 18 22:59 |
| DaemonFC | Well, I haven't thrown a cheeseburger and a diet Coke at anyone lately, so it must not be my maternal grandmother. :) | Oct 18 22:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.slate.com | Analyze your child’s DNA: Which grandparents are most genetically related? [ http://ur1.ca/fwr05 ] | Oct 18 22:59 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, My engine is pretty quiet really. | Oct 18 22:59 |
| DaemonFC | When I'm stopped, you can't even tell the engine is running. | Oct 18 22:59 |
| DaemonFC | Honda's are really not as reliable as people like to claim they are. | Oct 18 23:00 |
| DaemonFC | Like any other car, some are well-built, and some come from the factory as junk that keeps breaking down. | Oct 18 23:00 |
| DaemonFC | Some have owners that invest in maintaining them, some have owners that don't even change the oil. | Oct 18 23:01 |
| DaemonFC | This myth that they're all reliable and well built has the resale value all jacked up, even for ones that are in a horrible state of disrepair. | Oct 18 23:01 |
| MinceR | uh huh | Oct 18 23:02 |
| DaemonFC | The first thing I did when I got my crown vic was take it to the shop and have them change all the fluids and filters, and swap out the spark plugs and wires. | Oct 18 23:02 |
| DaemonFC | Put a little money in maintaining it, and it will save you from major repair work later. | Oct 18 23:03 |
| DaemonFC | My aunt (the one that died in August) had a Honda Prelude that she had all kinds of problems with. | Oct 18 23:03 |
| DaemonFC | The transmission even went out and had to be rebuilt. | Oct 18 23:03 |
| DaemonFC | The car only had 60,000 miles on it when that happened. | Oct 18 23:04 |
| DaemonFC | She sold it to my uncle. He put thousands of dollars into trying to fix it up into some kind of decent reliable car. | Oct 18 23:04 |
| DaemonFC | He eventually gave up and it started a huge fight between them before she eventually bought it back so there's be peace again. | Oct 18 23:04 |
| DaemonFC | and it's been sitting out beside my grandmother's house rotting away for about the last 10 years. | Oct 18 23:05 |
| DaemonFC | Right now he's driving a Buick Century that my grandmother gave him. | Oct 18 23:05 |
| DaemonFC | I know it had over 200,000 miles on it the last time he was up here. | Oct 18 23:05 |
| DaemonFC | Honda has their fair share of lemons. | Oct 18 23:05 |
| DaemonFC | And anyone that says they don't is putting forth anecdotal evidence. | Oct 18 23:06 |
| DaemonFC | When you look at Edmunds.com or other sites that tell you what tends to go wrong with a certain make/model/year of vehicle, you see that Hondas have expensive problems and fixing them is almost always going to cost you more than the same part on a Ford. | Oct 18 23:07 |
| DaemonFC | My neighbor has a Toyota Camry. She had a side impact in Walmart's parking lot the other day. | Oct 18 23:08 |
| DaemonFC | a 10 mile an hour hit left a dent the size of a grapefruit. | Oct 18 23:09 |
| MinceR | shouldn't be a surprise that fixing a more expensive car is more expensive | Oct 18 23:13 |
| MinceR | and yes, camrys aren't APCs :> | Oct 18 23:13 |
| MinceR | also, was that dent in the passenger cell? | Oct 18 23:13 |
| DaemonFC | The rear of the driver side quarter panel. | Oct 18 23:14 |
| DaemonFC | Looks terrible. | Oct 18 23:14 |
| MinceR | what's a quarter panel? | Oct 18 23:15 |
| DaemonFC | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quarter_panel | Oct 18 23:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | en.wikipedia.org | Quarter panel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/fwr2g ] | Oct 18 23:16 |
| MinceR | ic | Oct 18 23:16 |
| MinceR | no surprise, then | Oct 18 23:16 |
| DaemonFC | Mine has some dings and scratches, but it's not all that bad. | Oct 18 23:16 |
| MinceR | in modern cars, everything outside the passenger cell is supposed to deform and expend the energy of the collisions | Oct 18 23:16 |
| DaemonFC | Next year, I'm going to have them pull and fill the dents and repaint the entire car. | Oct 18 23:16 |
| MinceR | so that the passengers aren't crushed or flung against the car | Oct 18 23:17 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, well, I think my car is alot safer than her's. | Oct 18 23:17 |
| DaemonFC | Just because it's a big solid car. | Oct 18 23:17 |
| MinceR | sure, but just because the car stays intact doesn't mean you will too :> | Oct 18 23:17 |
| DaemonFC | Those little economy cars might get a five star rating, but that's a five star rating for their "class". | Oct 18 23:18 |
| MinceR | or more accurately, just because certain parts of the car stay intact doesn't mean you will too | Oct 18 23:18 |
| DaemonFC | It doesn't mean you'll be as safe as you would be in a larger car. | Oct 18 23:18 |
| MinceR | yeah, large cars still have an advantage | Oct 18 23:18 |
| MinceR | i don't know how exactly this combines with issues in absorbing energy, though | Oct 18 23:18 |
| MinceR | or, say, if the drive wheel shaft stays intact and skewers the driver :> | Oct 18 23:19 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.edmunds.com/honda/accord/1998/reliability.html?style=14475 | Oct 18 23:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.edmunds.com | 1998 Honda Accord DX 2.3L 4-cyl. 5-speed Manual Reliability [ http://ur1.ca/fwr3f ] | Oct 18 23:19 |
| DaemonFC | An occasional problem on this vehicle is failure of the Automatic Transmission. | Oct 18 23:20 |
| DaemonFC | The cost to repair the Automatic Transmission is estimated at $3000.00 for a remanufactured Automatic Transmission and $429.00 for labor. | Oct 18 23:20 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Oct 18 23:20 |
| DaemonFC | In other words, if the transmission goes out, you should junk it and look for another car. | Oct 18 23:20 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.edmunds.com/honda/accord/1999/reliability.html?style=11976 | Oct 18 23:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.edmunds.com | 1999 Honda Accord DX 2.3L 4-cyl. 5-speed Manual Reliability [ http://ur1.ca/fwr3t ] | Oct 18 23:21 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.edmunds.com/honda/accord/2000/reliability.html?style=2321 | Oct 18 23:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.edmunds.com | 2000 Honda Accord DX 2.3L 4-cyl. 5-speed Manual Reliability [ http://ur1.ca/fwr3y ] | Oct 18 23:22 |
| DaemonFC | So they're a ticking timebomb. | Oct 18 23:22 |
| DaemonFC | You can get a pretty good idea of what shape the transmission is in by looking at the color of the automatic transmission fluid, and smelling it. | Oct 18 23:22 |
| DaemonFC | If it is brown or black or smells burned, you don't want the car. | Oct 18 23:23 |
| DaemonFC | and of course, you're going to want to get it up to highway speeds and make sure it doesn't have any problem shifting through each gear. | Oct 18 23:23 |
| DaemonFC | Alot of Pontiacs seem to develop a problem with shifting between second and third gear. | Oct 18 23:23 |
| DaemonFC | I experienced that on several of their vans that I drove. | Oct 18 23:24 |
| DaemonFC | According to Autowyse, if my car needed a transmission rebuild, I'd be looking at $900-$1,500, depending on what parts I wanted and where the work was done. | Oct 18 23:25 |
| DaemonFC | I'd bet that Daniels could bring it in at around $1,000. | Oct 18 23:25 |
| DaemonFC | If I was starting out with a brand new car, I'd just get the transmission drained and filled like Ford says to do every 30,000 miles. | Oct 18 23:27 |
| DaemonFC | Alot of people don't do that, so you have to get it power flushed and have the pan gasket and filter changed as soon as you buy it, to catch up. | Oct 18 23:27 |
| DaemonFC | I use NAPA ATF fluid. It's just rebranded Valvoline. | Oct 18 23:28 |
| DaemonFC | NAPA has decent parts. I wouldn't go to Auto Zone for anything other than maybe windshield wipers or something. | Oct 18 23:29 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, What's funny is that alot of these people go to Jiffy Lube and tell them to flush the transmission. | Oct 18 23:30 |
| DaemonFC | and that's not the same as going to a dealer or most independent garages | Oct 18 23:30 |
| DaemonFC | Jiffy Lube hooks up a machine to the transmission's cooler line and flushes it through that. | Oct 18 23:31 |
| DaemonFC | They don't drop and clean the pan, or replace the pan gasket and filter. | Oct 18 23:31 |
| DaemonFC | So it's not uncommon for the transmission to fail soon after you have them do that. | Oct 18 23:31 |
| DaemonFC | It will loosen up some "gunk" in the system, that proceeds to clog the filter, and then the transmission fails because the fluid can't circulate. | Oct 18 23:32 |
| DaemonFC | I trust Jiffy Lube with my car even less than I'd trust Walmart with my car. | Oct 18 23:32 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 18 23:32 |
| DaemonFC | If anything, Walmart has gotten so afraid of lawsuits, that they're really careful about what they let their bay technicians do now. | Oct 18 23:32 |
| DaemonFC | It's pretty much just oil, batteries, and tires now. | Oct 18 23:32 |
| DaemonFC | They used to do more. | Oct 18 23:33 |
| MinceR | i've never trusted either of those | Oct 18 23:33 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Next time I need tires, I'm going to Daniels. | Oct 18 23:33 |
| MinceR | with my car, that is | Oct 18 23:33 |
| DaemonFC | They are about $10 more per tire, but they have $50-$75 rebates all the time. | Oct 18 23:33 |
| DaemonFC | and they throw in a free four wheel alignment | Oct 18 23:33 |
| DaemonFC | Those usually cost $60-80 by themselves, depending on where you go. | Oct 18 23:34 |
| DaemonFC | Lots of undercover news channel investigations at Jiffy Lube revealed that they don't even do the transmission flush or change your oil filter most of the time. | Oct 18 23:35 |
| DaemonFC | They just bill you for it. | Oct 18 23:35 |
| DaemonFC | It's pretty easy to figure out whether they changed the oil filter. | Oct 18 23:35 |
| DaemonFC | Take a sharpie marker and draw a line all the way around the old filter. | Oct 18 23:36 |
| DaemonFC | IF the line is still on it when you come back, they didn't change it. | Oct 18 23:36 |
| DaemonFC | There was one Jiffy Lube I used to go to alot, but it was just because there was this big glass window that let you look out into the service bay. | Oct 18 23:37 |
| DaemonFC | So I could watch them drain the oil, change the filter, and pour the correct amount of oil in. | Oct 18 23:37 |
| DaemonFC | Most of them aren't like that though. The one down in Marion is. | Oct 18 23:37 |
| DaemonFC | When I lived in Muncie, I always took the car to Big-O Tires, because they always had a coupon for $14.99 oil changes. | Oct 18 23:38 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Oct 18 23:38 |
| DaemonFC | but that was a long time ago. | Oct 18 23:38 |
| DaemonFC | You never see them cheaper than $23 now. | Oct 18 23:38 |
| DaemonFC | Those shops don't make much money off of oil changes. The purpose of the cheap oil change is to get you in there so they can do a once over on your car and recommend other repairs. | Oct 18 23:39 |
| DaemonFC | You really can go there and get the oil change and just ignore them though. :) | Oct 18 23:40 |
| DaemonFC | With batteries, I go by age, not what the meter says. | Oct 18 23:41 |
| DaemonFC | I've made that mistake before. The meter says it's good and then two weeks later, the car doesn't start. | Oct 18 23:42 |
| DaemonFC | If the guarantee is 3 years, change it after 3 years. | Oct 18 23:42 |
| DaemonFC | But the 5 year ones aren't much more expensive, so I get those. | Oct 18 23:42 |
| DaemonFC | hmmm, that's nice... | Oct 18 23:53 |
| DaemonFC | Amazon had the air filter I wanted for $5.77 with a $2 MIR. | Oct 18 23:53 |
| DaemonFC | Auto Zone had it for $7.99. | Oct 18 23:53 |
| *DaemonFC is a smart consumer that saved $2. | Oct 18 23:53 | |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Oct 18 23:53 |
| DaemonFC | http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2149799 | Oct 19 00:02 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | forums.anandtech.com | Air Filter Brand Make a Difference?? - AnandTech Forums [ http://ur1.ca/fwrbw ] | Oct 19 00:02 |
| DaemonFC | Yes it does actually. | Oct 19 00:02 |
| DaemonFC | AC DELCO and FRAM are both fine, but some people spend lots of money for a "permanent washable" K&N filter that lets all kinds of shit into the engine. | Oct 19 00:02 |
| DaemonFC | and the "oiling" they require for the cleaning procedure tends to get into the MAF sensor, and that's going to cost $150. | Oct 19 00:03 |
| DaemonFC | So if you want to save money and your engine, you use the pleated paper filters and just check to see if they're dirty about once a year. | Oct 19 00:04 |
| DaemonFC | If it is, throw it away and buy a new one. | Oct 19 00:04 |
| DaemonFC | I saw someone with an old beat up Honda with a lot of rust on it, that had spent over $100 putting a K&N cold air intake on their car. | Oct 19 00:05 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 19 00:05 |
| DaemonFC | Craigslist, naturally. | Oct 19 00:06 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.f150online.com/forums/v8-engines/293233-why-motorcraft-air-filters-so-expensive.html | Oct 19 00:09 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.f150online.com | Why are MotorCraft Air Filters So Expensive? - F150online Forums [ http://ur1.ca/fwrcw ] | Oct 19 00:09 |
| DaemonFC | "any part you get at a dealer is way overpriced" | Oct 19 00:09 |
| DaemonFC | not always, just usually. | Oct 19 00:09 |
| DaemonFC | Auto Zone had aftermarket keychain remotes that would work with my car for $49.99, but the Ford dealer had the OEM part for $56. | Oct 19 00:10 |
| DaemonFC | $40 for a replacement air filter from a dealer is a bit much :) | Oct 19 00:10 |
| DaemonFC | I've never used Motorcraft brand anything. | Oct 19 00:12 |
| DaemonFC | Ford recommends it, but it's not like you have to use it. | Oct 19 00:12 |
| DaemonFC | Of course they recommend it, it's their brand. :) | Oct 19 00:12 |
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| DaemonFC | I do use FRAM air filters, but not oil or fuel filters. | Oct 19 00:15 |
| DaemonFC | I use NAPA oil and fuel filters, because that's where Daniels Automotive gets their parts. | Oct 19 00:15 |
| DaemonFC | FRAM oil filters are not well made. | Oct 19 00:15 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRRgw4B7R-I | Oct 19 00:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.youtube.com | ( WARNING ) For You Fram Oil Filter Lover's.YouTube - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/fwrdw ] | Oct 19 00:16 |
| DaemonFC | They're what Walmart uses. | Oct 19 00:17 |
| DaemonFC | Walmart is just the wrong place to take your car to. | Oct 19 00:18 |
| DaemonFC | I keep telling Dave that. | Oct 19 00:18 |
| DaemonFC | He asked me to take his '89 Buick Park Avenue to Walmart to get them to patch a tire for him. | Oct 19 00:18 |
| DaemonFC | They called me back to the TLE five minutes later because they couldn't figure out how to get the hubcaps off. | Oct 19 00:19 |
| DaemonFC | I ended up going to Daniels and asking them to patch it. They didn't even charge me anything. They said that I've been such a good customer, that I didn't even need to worry about it. | Oct 19 00:20 |
| DaemonFC | Now that's service. | Oct 19 00:20 |
| DaemonFC | Taking your car to the dealer for anything that's not covered under the warranty or a recall is just stupid. | Oct 19 00:20 |
| DaemonFC | but don't take it to Walmart either. | Oct 19 00:20 |
| DaemonFC | Find a local independent that you can trust. | Oct 19 00:21 |
| DaemonFC | FRAM oil filters are OK if you like lubricating your engine with metal shavings. | Oct 19 00:24 |
| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer shared a link. | Oct 19 00:26 |
| DaemonFC | 3 hours ago | Oct 19 00:26 |
| DaemonFC | Vista 8.1 punishes users for turning off Restricted Boot. | Oct 19 00:26 |
| DaemonFC | http://forums.mydigitallife.info/threads/47485-quot-Secureboot-isn-t-configured-correctly-quot-Watermark-Windows-8-1-Core-activated | Oct 19 00:26 |
| DaemonFC | "Secure" Boot is designed to make sure that the computer can only run Windows. Right now you can turn it off, but in the future, that might not be possible. | Oct 19 00:26 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | forums.mydigitallife.info | "Secureboot isn't configured correctly" Watermark. Windows 8.1 Core activated. [ http://ur1.ca/fwrf3 ] | Oct 19 00:26 |
| DaemonFC | I wouldn't want a PC that can only run Windows. If that happened, I'd quit using a PC. | Oct 19 00:26 |
| MinceR | it wouldn't even be a pc | Oct 19 00:27 |
| MinceR | it would be a windows appliance | Oct 19 00:27 |
| MinceR | or a windows computer | Oct 19 00:27 |
| MinceR | but not a pc | Oct 19 00:27 |
| MinceR | gn | Oct 19 00:27 |
| DaemonFC | yan Farmer shared a link via Slashdot.org. | Oct 19 00:29 |
| DaemonFC | 6 hours ago | Oct 19 00:29 |
| DaemonFC | Did someone say "Body Thetans"? | Oct 19 00:29 |
| DaemonFC | http://yro.slashdot.org/story/13/10/18/031208/scientologys-fraud-conviction-upheld-in-france?utm_source=slashdot&utm_medium=facebook | Oct 19 00:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | yro.slashdot.org | Scientology's Fraud Conviction Upheld In France - Slashdot [ http://ur1.ca/fwrfh ] | Oct 19 00:29 |
| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer | Oct 19 00:38 |
| DaemonFC | Toyota. Moving forward, uncontrollably, with airbag-deploying spiders. Hahahaha! | Oct 19 00:38 |
| DaemonFC | Buy a Ford. | Oct 19 00:38 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnZH26BWtYE&list=TLjTrlTU6pKBN2hlu0988zUllA5VC3OjgY | Oct 19 01:09 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.youtube.com | My 1995 Buick Century few month after maaco paint job - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/fwris ] | Oct 19 01:09 |
| DaemonFC | That actually looks pretty good. | Oct 19 01:09 |
| DaemonFC | I've been thinking about paying MAACO to sand down my car and fill in some dents, then prime, paint, and clearcoat it. | Oct 19 01:09 |
| DaemonFC | Not sure what color I want, but it'll be a while before I have the money anyway. | Oct 19 01:09 |
| DaemonFC | So I have some time to think. | Oct 19 01:09 |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR, I was thinking about having them paint it black. | Oct 19 01:13 |
| DaemonFC | The same color that the undercover police use. | Oct 19 01:13 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-KaVmjGePk | Oct 19 01:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.youtube.com | Undercover 2010 Ford Crown Vic [EVI built] - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/fwrix ] | Oct 19 01:14 |
| DaemonFC | illegal to get the flashers, but not the paint job. | Oct 19 01:14 |
| DaemonFC | might have them tint the windows | Oct 19 01:14 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yt_UML9I4ME | Oct 19 01:20 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.youtube.com | 2006 Ford Crown Victoria Police Interceptor - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/fwrjg ] | Oct 19 01:20 |
| DaemonFC | I want one of those touchscreen systems installed. | Oct 19 01:20 |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR will like that. | Oct 19 01:45 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/10/18/furloughed-government-workers-could-be-paid-twice-in-oregon/ | Oct 19 02:34 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.foxnews.com | Furloughed government workers could be paid twice in Oregon | Fox News [ http://ur1.ca/fwrok ] | Oct 19 02:34 |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.carrentingreviews.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/2013-Ford-Edge-Limited-AWD-Deep-Impact-Blue-Metallic_rear.jpg | Oct 19 02:52 |
| DaemonFC | Deep Impact Blue Metallic. | Oct 19 02:52 |
| DaemonFC | I think I found the color I want them to repaint my Crown Vic. | Oct 19 02:52 |
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| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer shared Daily Kos's photo. | Oct 19 03:09 |
| DaemonFC | 8 seconds ago | Oct 19 03:09 |
| DaemonFC | Good, Good, Good, Good, Excellent, Eww, Good, Eww, Eww, Eww. | Oct 19 03:09 |
| DaemonFC | Don't be "that guy" that passes out candy corns. NOBODY likes candy corns. :) | Oct 19 03:09 |
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| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer | Oct 19 03:11 |
| DaemonFC | 2 seconds ago | Oct 19 03:11 |
| DaemonFC | "Well they can't all be winners can they?" -Billy Bob Thornton as Bad Santa on candy corns. | Oct 19 03:11 |
| JimmyCarter | i like candy corn | Oct 19 03:12 |
| JimmyCarter | wish i had some | Oct 19 03:12 |
| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer | Oct 19 03:13 |
| DaemonFC | 2 seconds ago | Oct 19 03:13 |
| DaemonFC | You are stranded on a desert island. Your only provisions are candy corns and dog food. | Oct 19 03:13 |
| DaemonFC | $> Eat dog food. | Oct 19 03:13 |
| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer | Oct 19 03:15 |
| DaemonFC | 2 seconds ago | Oct 19 03:15 |
| DaemonFC | $> Go north. | Oct 19 03:15 |
| DaemonFC | You stumble upon a grue. | Oct 19 03:15 |
| DaemonFC | $> Feed candy corns to grue. | Oct 19 03:15 |
| DaemonFC | The grue takes 1000 HP damage and dies. | Oct 19 03:15 |
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| MinceR | buy a ford, then you won't be moving forward, backward, or anywhere | Oct 19 07:26 |
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| iophk | http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1295 | Oct 19 08:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.markshuttleworth.com | Mark Shuttleworth » Blog Archive » Quantal, raring, saucy… | Oct 19 08:11 |
| iophk | "Mir is really important work. When lots of competitors attack a project on purely political grounds..." | Oct 19 08:13 |
| iophk | There are a lot of reasons for and against mir, but dismissing the criticism as political is to dodge them and ultimately make the project worse off than if they had been adressed. | Oct 19 08:14 |
| JimmyCarter | didnt Mir crash already | Oct 19 08:14 |
| JimmyCarter | or completely burnup on reentry | Oct 19 08:15 |
| iophk | https://www.google.com/images?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=mir+reentry&oe=utf-8&hl=en | Oct 19 08:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.google.com | mir reentry - Google Search [ http://ur1.ca/fwsla ] | Oct 19 08:16 |
| iophk | http://mrpogson.com/2013/10/18/more-fud-bites-the-dust/ | Oct 19 08:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | mrpogson.com | More FUD Bites The Dust | Robert Pogson [ http://ur1.ca/fwsln ] | Oct 19 08:19 |
| MinceR | :) | Oct 19 08:21 |
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| iophk | http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2013-10-18/a-federal-it-contractor-makes-the-case-against-open-source-obamacare | Oct 19 09:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.businessweek.com | A Federal IT Contractor Makes the Case Against Open-Source Obamacare - Businessweek [ http://ur1.ca/fwsu9 ] | Oct 19 09:54 |
| iophk | "he questions the relationship between opening the code and improving the quality" | Oct 19 09:55 |
| iophk | free/libre open source is also a development model. | Oct 19 09:56 |
| oiaohm | iophk: open source is a segement of a development model. | Oct 19 10:00 |
| oiaohm | iophk: projects like wine are able to develop at insane rates due to huge test suites. | Oct 19 10:00 |
| oiaohm | iophk: it is a bit hard to audit a program for quality if you don't have access to the source code. | Oct 19 10:02 |
| iophk | I have run into proponents of black box auditing, they claimed with a straight face that it helped security and reliability | Oct 19 10:03 |
| iophk | Closed, proprietary systems have no business in publicly funded projects. | Oct 19 10:03 |
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| Sosumi | mark shuttleworm... | Oct 19 11:45 |
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| iophk | "As the user types a search query in the Dash, the partial query is transmitted to Canonical’s servers" | Oct 19 14:02 |
| iophk | http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/10/ubuntu-13-10-review-the-linux-os-of-the-future-remains-a-year-away/ | Oct 19 14:02 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | arstechnica.com | Ubuntu 13.10 review: The Linux OS of the future remains a year away | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/fwtk8 ] | Oct 19 14:02 |
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| iophk | http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/10/the-top-5-things-weve-learned-about-the-nsa-thanks-to-edward-snowden/ | Oct 19 19:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | arstechnica.com | The top 5 things we’ve learned about the NSA thanks to Edward Snowden | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/fwul3 ] | Oct 19 19:53 |
| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer via Slashdot.org | Oct 19 20:11 |
| DaemonFC | Openness doesn't need to mean walking around with a "kick me" sign on your back. If Wikipedia had the kind of peer review that the Linux kernel did, this kind of stuff wouldn't ever happen. If anyone tried it, it would be spotted and removed before the next iteration of the page was ever shown to the public. | Oct 19 20:11 |
| DaemonFC | The problem with trying to present a neutral point of view, is that it gives equal footing to crackpots. It's like having a debate about climate change, where you have to give the 1% of scientists that deny it (most of whom are on the oil company payroll) 50% of the airtime, or having a debate about the age of the Earth, where you have to give the people that say it's 5,000 years old (demonstrably f | Oct 19 20:11 |
| DaemonFC | alse) half of the airtime, or having a debate about the shape of the Earth, where you track down the one guy that says it's flat and give him equal footing. | Oct 19 20:11 |
| DaemonFC | Wikipedia and the news should stop trying to be "fair", and spend more time reporting accurately. When you give corporations and silly people half the debate time, you give them more credibility than they really deserve and a chance to influence people who are not knowledgeable about the subject. | Oct 19 20:11 |
| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer via Bill Moyers | Oct 19 20:24 |
| DaemonFC | Nobody is on a government program because they believe in the government. They're on them because the market has failed them. | Oct 19 20:24 |
| DaemonFC | Food stamps are basically the glue that makes minimum wage employers such as Walmart and the fast food industry work. | Oct 19 20:24 |
| DaemonFC | Socialists actually don't like programs like food stamps and medicaid, because we know that they make abusive employers just tolerable enough that people don't want to rock the boat. Without programs like this which just barely patch over the horrible nature of free market capitalism, there would be an uprising the likes of which has not been seen since the 1920s. | Oct 19 20:24 |
| DaemonFC | Also, if the free market works so great, take everyone over 65 off of Social Security and Medicare and watch what happens to them. | Oct 19 20:24 |
| DaemonFC | We have programs like that because people saw what was happening without them, said "Oh my God, that's horrible.", and decided to do something about it. In other words, they saw the cruelty of the free market, and corrected for it. | Oct 19 20:24 |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.huffingtonpost.com/nicholas-carroll/credit-card-maxandwalk-co_b_789793.html | Oct 19 20:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.huffingtonpost.com | Nicholas Carroll: Credit Card Max-and-Walk: Consumers Learn How to Game the Banks [ http://ur1.ca/354wv ] | Oct 19 20:53 |
| DaemonFC | "(I once had a card frozen in less than five minutes for buying gas and then using it at Walmart; my pattern had fit the profile of a stolen card -- testing the card at a gas station and then rushing to Walmart to max it out.)" | Oct 19 20:53 |
| DaemonFC | I always use my credit card for gas and groceries. | Oct 19 20:53 |
| DaemonFC | but just so I can farm the cash back rewards. | Oct 19 20:53 |
| DaemonFC | banks don't like that, but they tolerate it | Oct 19 20:53 |
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| DaemonFC | Microsoft released a broken Windows 8.1 update that started bricking Windows RT devices. | Oct 19 23:57 |
| DaemonFC | So they pulled the update. | Oct 19 23:57 |
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| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3165187 | Oct 13 02:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Does a Chromebook replace a laptop? http://www.tgdaily.com/mobility-brief/80646-does-a-chromebook-replace-a-laptop it runs #gnu #linux | Oct 13 02:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.tgdaily.com | Does a Chromebook replace a laptop? | TG Daily [ http://ur1.ca/fvjk9 ] | Oct 13 02:41 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "And if I can't do anything I want with MY hardware I won't buy that hardware" | Oct 13 02:41 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | [16:36] <_Goblin> schestowitz: HI there! Yep if youre coming to London, make sure you visit! - Oh and btw 1984 not an insightful glimse of the future, an exercise in the bloody obvious for anyone who has studied any human culture from its roots....but thats another story.... | Oct 13 02:42 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Cool;.maybe my wife can come also | Oct 13 02:42 |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR, Apparently it's easier to commit odometer fraud with those new digital odometers. | Oct 13 03:48 |
| DaemonFC | All you have to do is hook up a device and reset it to whatever you want it to say. | Oct 13 03:49 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Oct 13 03:49 |
| gulag2013 | Any Ubuntu users in the room? | Oct 13 03:50 |
| iophk | gulag2013: not a fan of Unity. What's up? | Oct 13 03:52 |
| gulag2013 | I'm just trying to figure the right way to purge Cinnamon desktop, now idea how it got installed | Oct 13 03:53 |
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| iophk | Remove the package "cinnamon" and then autoremove any leftovers? | Oct 13 03:54 |
| gulag2013 | should I use synaptic? | Oct 13 03:55 |
| iophk | Yes that would be an easy way. | Oct 13 03:55 |
| gulag2013 | Great thanks, The news on both Facebook and Google, I was very close to removing my gmail | Oct 13 03:57 |
| iophk | Someone posted a reply from GMX online saying they couldn't guarantee non-US servers for their services. | Oct 13 03:57 |
| DaemonFC | I keep getting idiots on Craigslist say they're interested in buying my Taurus. | Oct 13 03:58 |
| DaemonFC | Then they either try to get it really cheap or never show up to look at it. | Oct 13 03:58 |
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| oiaohm | gulag2013: do get to know aptitude as well. Highly useful if anything majorally screwed up with graphical due to package install stuff up. | Oct 13 04:02 |
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| gulag2013 | iophk, that seemed to do the trick thanks for your help, all that is left is some gnome. | Oct 13 04:05 |
| iophk | Lots of people have moved to XFCE instead. | Oct 13 04:06 |
| gulag2013 | I'm not to sure I liked that desktop. I will have to double check the disto I thought it was in. | Oct 13 04:07 |
| iophk | It's in Xubuntu if you are into the Ubuntu family of distros. | Oct 13 04:07 |
| iophk | It comes prepackaged on others, too. | Oct 13 04:07 |
| gulag2013 | It's the global menu bar I like in Ubuntu, not Dash | Oct 13 04:08 |
| gulag2013 | Dash, is sort of waste of time | Oct 13 04:08 |
| iophk | What about Cairo-dock then? It's an add on. | Oct 13 04:08 |
| iophk | The Dash is like a lame reimplementation of bash-completion. | Oct 13 04:09 |
| iophk | I don't see it as appropriate to the GUI paradigm | Oct 13 04:09 |
| gulag2013 | It serves me now purpose, now if it would display the last installed package that would be useful | Oct 13 04:09 |
| iophk | If I wanted to type the names of a program to run it, I can already do that, and have done it, since the 1990's | Oct 13 04:09 |
| gulag2013 | Exactly, there a few ones that are not obvious. example Chromium-Browser | Oct 13 04:10 |
| gulag2013 | Once you know them, you are golden | Oct 13 04:11 |
| iophk | less /var/log/apt/history.log | Oct 13 04:11 |
| iophk | Then scroll down to the end. | Oct 13 04:12 |
| gulag2013 | I have no problem typing to launch a program, but dash stutters on my machine. Terminal is just faster | Oct 13 04:12 |
| iophk | There might be a way to get it with grep if one is clever enough. | Oct 13 04:12 |
| gulag2013 | I will write down that path thanks | Oct 13 04:12 |
| iophk | bash completion is actually quite advanced and aware of the syntax and valid options and their accepted parameters. | Oct 13 04:13 |
| gulag2013 | It's fantastic, I'm learning as a go. I was doing tab tab and it was just filling in the whole path. | Oct 13 04:14 |
| iophk | Yep, it knows when to fill in paths and when not to. | Oct 13 04:14 |
| iophk | I guess the structure of the APT history file is always a 4-line record separated by an empty line. | Oct 13 04:15 |
| iophk | So this should work to find the last one: | Oct 13 04:15 |
| iophk | tail -n 4 /var/log/apt/history.log | Oct 13 04:15 |
| gulag2013 | That display all the cinnamon stuff I just removed | Oct 13 04:17 |
| iophk | Yes, I see now. There is a slight defect in how Synaptic logs to that file. You can't just look at "Commandline:" to see if something was added or removed. | Oct 13 04:20 |
| gulag2013 | The first command you gave me is long list of everything. Can I use an -l flag somewhere, it looks like shit. | Oct 13 04:20 |
| iophk | The long lines get wrapped. So that makes it look bad. | Oct 13 04:20 |
| gulag2013 | Can I cat it out and have listed/ | Oct 13 04:21 |
| iophk | You could pipe it through a perl script which uses Text::WrapI18N | Oct 13 04:22 |
| iophk | That would allow you to do hanging indents, which should improve readability | Oct 13 04:22 |
| gulag2013 | okay, so I'm looking through this list it looks like a bunch of dependencies, I can't really spot out programs in this mess. | Oct 13 04:23 |
| iophk | Unfortunately the package manager doesn't really make a distinction between applications and their dependencies. | Oct 13 04:24 |
| gulag2013 | Ha ha, it's all good. I know that most of my stuff is in /usr/bin right? | Oct 13 04:25 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: do get to know aptitude as well. Highly useful if anything majorally screwed up with graphical due to package install stuff up. | Oct 13 04:25 |
| gulag2013 | Okay. Can you explain Aptitude for me. just what you it is, not asking for lessons? | Oct 13 04:27 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: aptitude is a text base item like synaptic | Oct 13 04:27 |
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| gulag2013 | starting to ring a bell. how do work in it? | Oct 13 04:28 |
| gulag2013 | I don't even know if its something I have preinstalled. | Oct 13 04:29 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: if it installed aptitude will exist as at terminal option. | Oct 13 04:29 |
| gulag2013 | /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/00aptitude, that came up first line using locate | Oct 13 04:30 |
| oiaohm | aptitude installed should be in /usr/bin/aptitude | Oct 13 04:32 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: http://algebraicthunk.net/~dburrows/projects/aptitude/doc/en/images/install-snapshot.png aptitude has a fairly unque look. | Oct 13 04:33 |
| gulag2013 | That path isn't being displayed, maybe I need to install it | Oct 13 04:33 |
| gulag2013 | Thanks that stand out like a sore thumb | Oct 13 04:34 |
| gulag2013 | Okay I'm installing it. | Oct 13 04:35 |
| iophk | I always had trouble from / with Aptitude. I use apt-get straight up. | Oct 13 04:35 |
| iophk | instead | Oct 13 04:35 |
| gulag2013 | Nice and launches "aptitude" | Oct 13 04:35 |
| oiaohm | iophk: aptitude has better broken package solving than apt-get | Oct 13 04:36 |
| gulag2013 | Well, I take oiaohm's word on at least trying to learn it. I haven't gotten around to learning how to navigate in vim either | Oct 13 04:37 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: Hey I have only used Linux and Unix for over 20 years and I still cannot use vim todo anything. | Oct 13 04:37 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: I use nano as my text editor on the terminal. | Oct 13 04:38 |
| gulag2013 | Ha ha, thanks that made me feel more at ease. I appreciate your suggestions. This is the most fun I have had in long time, as far as learning an O/S goes | Oct 13 04:38 |
| iophk | http://mrpogson.com/2013/10/13/gnulinux-is-for-everyone/ | Oct 13 04:38 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | mrpogson.com | GNU/Linux Is For Everyone | Robert Pogson [ http://ur1.ca/fvpki ] | Oct 13 04:38 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: I have dyslexia emacs and vim are ways for me to screw up majorally. | Oct 13 04:39 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: so I like stuff with proper displayed memus. | Oct 13 04:39 |
| oiaohm | Whats a few lines of screen space compare to making errors. | Oct 13 04:40 |
| gulag2013 | Are they sort of black sheep. I guess I mean, I get the hang of one thing, and I guess my way around another. So are they just both non intuitive | Oct 13 04:40 |
| iophk | Knowing a little vi is useful since it is on all systems by default and nano or emacs have to be installed intentionally. | Oct 13 04:42 |
| gulag2013 | So emac is comparable to Vim? I'm embarrassed I have to ask that. Stalman created emac, is that right? | Oct 13 04:42 |
| iophk | Yes RMS wrote Emacs | Oct 13 04:42 |
| iophk | It's a nice IDE | Oct 13 04:42 |
| oiaohm | I do have a cheat sheet for vim when desperate. | Oct 13 04:42 |
| oiaohm | But other wise I don't know how to use vim. | Oct 13 04:43 |
| gulag2013 | I didn't know that about nano. | Oct 13 04:43 |
| iophk | The syntax highlighting and other touches are very useful. It has many modes, depending on what kind of file you are editing. | Oct 13 04:43 |
| iophk | nano is nice | Oct 13 04:43 |
| oiaohm | emacs is huge powerful and scary enough you could be using its internal irc client. | Oct 13 04:43 |
| gulag2013 | I use it for text, and it save me step or two | Oct 13 04:43 |
| oiaohm | or even using to to play chess. | Oct 13 04:43 |
| iophk | but you need to set nowrap in nanorc or launch it with -w to avoid wrapping long lines | Oct 13 04:44 |
| oiaohm | vim and vi were both designed to be compact still with lots of functionality. | Oct 13 04:44 |
| oiaohm | Also vim and vi are designed for the nightmare terminal from hell. | Oct 13 04:45 |
| iophk | over 300 baud or slower... | Oct 13 04:45 |
| oiaohm | Yes that being a printer. | Oct 13 04:45 |
| oiaohm | Yes keyboard + printer you can get by with vi or vim. | Oct 13 04:45 |
| oiaohm | Yes vi and vim has some very warped output options. | Oct 13 04:45 |
| gulag2013 | That is the long term goal. it's hard to watch my system go down, and stare at a blank cursor feeling helpless. | Oct 13 04:46 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: basically if you have a interfacw where you cannot use vi or vim you are fairly much stuffed. | Oct 13 04:46 |
| gulag2013 | Sounds like the thing to practice, if it's almost everything | Oct 13 04:47 |
| iophk | You only need to know a few keystrokes to get a lot of mileage out of vi | Oct 13 04:48 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: there is a price for supporting every interface on earth. | Oct 13 04:48 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: don't know keystrokes vi/vim are paper weight is this the price for supporting every interface. | Oct 13 04:48 |
| gulag2013 | What is that exactly? | Oct 13 04:48 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: so I don't like remembering keystrokes. | Oct 13 04:49 |
| oiaohm | This is why I am a nano user. | Oct 13 04:49 |
| oiaohm | I used a item called pico before nano. | Oct 13 04:50 |
| gulag2013 | Oh,well it scares me because I wasn't gifted with the best memory. I just keep trying new commands as I go. | Oct 13 04:50 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: so you are more like me. | Oct 13 04:50 |
| iophk | with pico and nano you can rely on the menus instead | Oct 13 04:50 |
| iophk | IIRC pico came with pine | Oct 13 04:51 |
| oiaohm | iophk: pine was my first email client. | Oct 13 04:51 |
| iophk | 2nd for me, but it is very good | Oct 13 04:51 |
| gulag2013 | How far back are we talking | Oct 13 04:51 |
| iophk | 93 | Oct 13 04:51 |
| oiaohm | 95 me | Oct 13 04:52 |
| iophk | pine's development has been a little less certain of late | Oct 13 04:52 |
| iophk | there is alpine and re-alpine | Oct 13 04:52 |
| gulag2013 | Ah yes, I was just buying my first modem around that time | Oct 13 04:52 |
| _Goblin | gulag2013, I just wonder these days why people bother with the CLI...if you have need of the flexibility of the command line fine, but many people have spent many years making desktop linux intuitive and "one click" in order to concentrate on work and less on "working things out".... | Oct 13 04:52 |
| oiaohm | Before that I only had access to bbs before that. | Oct 13 04:52 |
| iophk | but none quite work with Google's IMAPS | Oct 13 04:52 |
| oiaohm | iophk: I was using Unix's 1991 | Oct 13 04:52 |
| oiaohm | iophk: without internet connection. | Oct 13 04:52 |
| iophk | so no 'mail' program? | Oct 13 04:53 |
| _Goblin | oiaohm, Dawn RaId BbS - The greatest scene BBS in the UK | Oct 13 04:53 |
| _Goblin | and that was 1989 for me. | Oct 13 04:53 |
| oiaohm | iophk: cat mboxfile |less | Oct 13 04:53 |
| iophk | ew | Oct 13 04:53 |
| oiaohm | iophk: I don't call that my first email client. | Oct 13 04:53 |
| oiaohm | iophk: but it worked for what was needed. | Oct 13 04:54 |
| gulag2013 | Goblin, I have spent me whole life using a Gui, feeling like things were being hidden from me. I'm interested in know how my system works more than before | Oct 13 04:54 |
| oiaohm | iophk: only thing being emailed on those systems was errors. | Oct 13 04:54 |
| oiaohm | iophk: read email delete mailbox have it create new again. | Oct 13 04:54 |
| oiaohm | Never ending cycle of ew until I found a email client. | Oct 13 04:54 |
| _Goblin | gulag2013, unless you have some very special requirements it all seems like creating work for yourself....although if its a hobby and you enjoy it, more power to you. | Oct 13 04:54 |
| _Goblin | the cat example I gave yesterday is a good one since in Avidemux you can use the append feature which is arguably quicker than a "CAT" command in the CLI | Oct 13 04:55 |
| gulag2013 | It all depends on the task , I really could care less about learning every command to set up a firewall in a terminal, but know how and where I can fix things is nice | Oct 13 04:56 |
| _Goblin | I think the most important thing (for me anyway) was when I first came to Linux from a Windows background, knowing where the system put everything and then permissions, now the CLI is largely unused and if I have an issue a quick google usually gives me a cut and paste solution. | Oct 13 04:57 |
| gulag2013 | I guess that is what is holding linux back on the desktop. I freaked out the first couple crashes I had using linux | Oct 13 04:57 |
| iophk | The only thing holding Linux back on the desktop is the control of the OEMs. People will use what is preinstalled. | Oct 13 04:57 |
| iophk | Nowadays few even change the default settings. | Oct 13 04:58 |
| _Goblin | I think the thing that can hold Linux back is the idea some people promote that you need to use the CLI at all....Most of the linux installs I've done for people have never used the CLI since they started with Linux | Oct 13 04:58 |
| gulag2013 | Those are good points, yet Windows can be a little whacky where they hide tools also | Oct 13 04:58 |
| oiaohm | _Goblin: and iophk both kinda wrong. | Oct 13 04:58 |
| iophk | The shell is too easy to work with. | Oct 13 04:58 |
| oiaohm | _Goblin: X11 being highly inscure forced command line to remain in high secure usage. | Oct 13 04:59 |
| _Goblin | tell that to someone who uses a PC as a tool, not as a hobby or has an interest in it. | Oct 13 04:59 |
| iophk | To walk someone through a GUI solution needs feeding a series of edited screen shots. | Oct 13 04:59 |
| iophk | That's slow and a lot of work. | Oct 13 04:59 |
| oiaohm | iophk: OEM how can they ship with up stream hardware vendors rejecting Linux. | Oct 13 04:59 |
| iophk | The same solution can be done faster with a line or two. | Oct 13 04:59 |
| _Goblin | yep but its more intiutive to someone with no interest in computing (other than as a tool) | Oct 13 04:59 |
| iophk | oiaohm: M$ still has the control to lean on OEMs, though the grip is weakening | Oct 13 04:59 |
| oiaohm | iophk and _Goblin we have had the problem 2 major road blocks. | Oct 13 05:00 |
| gulag2013 | I would say to that person to get a mac and a service plan. | Oct 13 05:00 |
| _Goblin | you really think a mainstream user the masses would favour text over a flashy GUI? even if it is slower. | Oct 13 05:00 |
| iophk | too bad they got restricted boot pushed through | Oct 13 05:00 |
| iophk | that basically prevents any casual experimentation or anything else by novices | Oct 13 05:00 |
| _Goblin | it is all about OEM.....but those that venture away are also put off from the CLI fud | Oct 13 05:00 |
| _Goblin | about linux | Oct 13 05:00 |
| oiaohm | _Goblin: the CLI is not fud. | Oct 13 05:00 |
| _Goblin | no.... | Oct 13 05:00 |
| _Goblin | badly typed. | Oct 13 05:00 |
| iophk | M$ makes it into FUD | Oct 13 05:01 |
| oiaohm | _Goblin: without fixing X11 the CLI was forced to remain. | Oct 13 05:01 |
| _Goblin | I mean the FUD thats promoted about Linux = CLI | Oct 13 05:01 |
| iophk | because Windows lacks the capability they make fun of it | Oct 13 05:01 |
| iophk | and criticize it. | Oct 13 05:01 |
| _Goblin | but you think the mainstream are interested? | Oct 13 05:01 |
| _Goblin | they just want to use a computer | Oct 13 05:01 |
| oiaohm | _Goblin: X11 stuff ups made the requirement to use CLI so critical. | Oct 13 05:01 |
| _Goblin | they see a command line, they are not interested. | Oct 13 05:01 |
| iophk | on the GUI side, Linux has been easier than Windows for over a decade. | Oct 13 05:01 |
| _Goblin | agreed | Oct 13 05:01 |
| iophk | That's when the KDE 3.x usability study came out | Oct 13 05:01 |
| oiaohm | I would say in some areas Linux is ahead in usablity. | Oct 13 05:02 |
| oiaohm | X11 has been ruining all the great useablity work. | Oct 13 05:02 |
| gulag2013 | You can use the some of the same commands in Powershell I believe, so you have three things you can novice in. OSX, Linux, and even a Windows | Oct 13 05:02 |
| iophk | oiaohm: agreed and it has been ahead for a while | Oct 13 05:02 |
| _Goblin | Ive had newbies on many DE's....all of which met with ease of use by the beginner | Oct 13 05:02 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: we have a better novice shell | Oct 13 05:02 |
| iophk | Unity would be more tolerable if there were a graphical way of exploring which apps are installed | Oct 13 05:03 |
| _Goblin | Unity is the white elephant. | Oct 13 05:03 |
| gulag2013 | Is that right? | Oct 13 05:03 |
| iophk | that and it needs to be able to move the dock off the left side to where ever the user needs it | Oct 13 05:03 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: http://fishshell.com/ this is a shell designed for novices. | Oct 13 05:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | fishshell.com | fish shell | Oct 13 05:03 |
| gulag2013 | What makes it better? I mean that out of pure interst | Oct 13 05:03 |
| _Goblin | that dock gets to be an issue when you have a google web app also with a vertical popout dock. | Oct 13 05:03 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: its automatically designed to bring up help data. | Oct 13 05:03 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: so you know what in heck you are asking the system todo. | Oct 13 05:04 |
| gulag2013 | Get out of town, really? | Oct 13 05:04 |
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| gulag2013 | Thank you so much for sharing that. | Oct 13 05:05 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: http://fishshell.com/assets/img/screenshots/man_completions.png | Oct 13 05:05 |
| gulag2013 | That's cool, I will be playing with that later in the day. | Oct 13 05:06 |
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| gulag2013 | I had no love for learning the command prompt in windows, but now if I use windows 7. I'm hunting for it and yelling that I'm forget to right click admin | Oct 13 05:08 |
| iophk | Windows is all-around useless and illogical, both the GUI and the text UI. | Oct 13 05:13 |
| iophk | _Goblin: some functionality is not there in the GUI. In Synaptic, how do you see the last app or two that was installed? | Oct 13 05:15 |
| gulag2013 | I got used to where things were, until you can guess? | Oct 13 05:15 |
| iophk | It shows all of them but not the latest ones to be added | Oct 13 05:15 |
| iophk | gulag2013: yeah they changed the GUI so that people have to spend their time fussing with the GUI instead of leaving them free to do their work or worse test Linux | Oct 13 05:15 |
| gulag2013 | My mindset was where Goblin's was a two years ago, but now i like it. Somethings are faster, others aren't | Oct 13 05:17 |
| iophk | _Goblin: found the history setting, but it is only for work done through Synaptic, not the overall history | Oct 13 05:17 |
| gulag2013 | If that suits him, I'm always willing to be taught a better way. | Oct 13 05:19 |
| Sosumi | http://macdailynews.com/2013/09/10/new-in-os-x-mavericks-opengl-4-1-brings-increased-performance-more-features/ | Oct 13 05:20 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | macdailynews.com | New in OS X Mavericks: OpenGL 4.1 brings increased performance, more features MacDailyNews - Welcome Home [ http://ur1.ca/fvpwe ] | Oct 13 05:20 |
| Sosumi | and we're still in 2010, right? | Oct 13 05:21 |
| gulag2013 | Sosumi, Whats that? | Oct 13 05:21 |
| Sosumi | just a joke news about apple being in the past with their opengl spec | Oct 13 05:22 |
| Sosumi | 3 years or so behind and being outperformed by mesa | Oct 13 05:23 |
| gulag2013 | I see, I don't know enough about opengl, I do know that Apple takes forever to get hardware up to date. | Oct 13 05:23 |
| gulag2013 | They keep repackaging the same products with some minor changes. Look what they did to the Mac Pro, what is that? | Oct 13 05:24 |
| Sosumi | the mac pro was OK, they didn't need to change it an oversized dildo | Oct 13 05:25 |
| Sosumi | *into | Oct 13 05:25 |
| gulag2013 | That is what I meant, not specs wise. I guess they don't want you fixing it. | Oct 13 05:26 |
| oiaohm | The more deperate MS gets attempting to hold onto market share the more insane there interface will get. | Oct 13 05:26 |
| Sosumi | nor upgrading it | Oct 13 05:26 |
| oiaohm | Windows 8 was about MS losing control. | Oct 13 05:26 |
| gulag2013 | Microsoft just resorts to smear campaigns, bribes and corrupting the education system | Oct 13 05:27 |
| oiaohm | Remember MS makes more income from android patent licenses than from Windows Phone sales. | Oct 13 05:27 |
| Sosumi | yeah | Oct 13 05:27 |
| gulag2013 | I did hear that | Oct 13 05:27 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: bribes and corruption is how MS got into place. | Oct 13 05:27 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: and illegal dealing. | Oct 13 05:27 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: IBM invented FUD | Oct 13 05:28 |
| gulag2013 | Take Goblin for example. I'm not meaning to use him for this example. I'm a victim also. If I had to learn Linux in elementary school, I would have a skill. | Oct 13 05:28 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: so why did I develop the skill. | Oct 13 05:29 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: It was not because my high school supported it. | Oct 13 05:29 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: mine was seeing my schools computer labs shut down due to software piracy. | Oct 13 05:30 |
| gulag2013 | This is true, you had a passion for it much early I suppose. I wanted nothing to do with, Windows 8 changed that. | Oct 13 05:30 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: No not exactly passion. | Oct 13 05:30 |
| oiaohm | I required working computers. | Oct 13 05:31 |
| gulag2013 | Then you had a reason, and you are much better off now because of it. | Oct 13 05:31 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: my rating of dyslexia was at the level of non functional with out aids. | Oct 13 05:32 |
| iophk | you were lucky if that pushed you to F/OSS. Usually M$ via the BSA is able to force new M$ contracts | Oct 13 05:33 |
| iophk | they used the "piracy" excuse to purge Netware from the server rooms and replace it with non-functional M$ shit | Oct 13 05:33 |
| gulag2013 | I did horrible in school. The way the force you to learn stuff that doesn't help you . Personal relationships skills, nope. Financial literacy, nope | Oct 13 05:33 |
| oiaohm | iophk: think about it my dyslexia require spell checkers and other things. | Oct 13 05:34 |
| oiaohm | iophk: having computer rooms shut down when needing to submit papers was a major problem. | Oct 13 05:34 |
| iophk | Yeah you got burned pretty bad. | Oct 13 05:35 |
| iophk | Timing is a lot | Oct 13 05:35 |
| gulag2013 | I took my Comptia A+ All Microsoft. Tell me that wasn't on purpose. | Oct 13 05:35 |
| gulag2013 | No Apple skills, nothing on Linux at all | Oct 13 05:35 |
| iophk | Kind of confirms that Comptia is a total waste. | Oct 13 05:36 |
| gulag2013 | it truly is now. | Oct 13 05:36 |
| gulag2013 | PC repair, it's a good laugh | Oct 13 05:36 |
| oiaohm | Old A+ exam stuff was good. | Oct 13 05:37 |
| oiaohm | The new stuff is horible | Oct 13 05:37 |
| gulag2013 | Why on earth would someone pay me $100 to fix a $300 dollar emachine | Oct 13 05:37 |
| iophk | that's if it is even repairable. | Oct 13 05:37 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: data recoverable. | Oct 13 05:37 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: opps | Oct 13 05:37 |
| iophk | Most things are single-board these days. | Oct 13 05:37 |
| oiaohm | data recovery. | Oct 13 05:37 |
| oiaohm | Yes I hate word swap I suffer from from time to time. | Oct 13 05:37 |
| iophk | About the only thing removable is the SSD or HD and optical drive, if there is still one. | Oct 13 05:38 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: its not the price of the machine its the price of the data it contains these days. | Oct 13 05:38 |
| gulag2013 | Data recovery, maybe some forgotten password, but if the Motherboard goes, just go to Walmart and get a new one | Oct 13 05:38 |
| gulag2013 | What is that called "Planned Obsolescence" | Oct 13 05:39 |
| oiaohm | Replacing a motherboard can be required as part of datarecovery. | Oct 13 05:39 |
| oiaohm | ie people using insane encryptioned with data stored in the board. | Oct 13 05:40 |
| gulag2013 | Valid point | Oct 13 05:40 |
| oiaohm | Note you are not talking about a 100 dollar fix you are talking about a 1000 dollar fix | Oct 13 05:40 |
| oiaohm | So the data better be worth something. | Oct 13 05:40 |
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| gulag2013 | I didn't get that kind of education either, that is way I'm unpleased with the Comptia people | Oct 13 05:41 |
| gulag2013 | I got Printer questions, and how to be nice to people scenarios | Oct 13 05:42 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: you know something is wrong when do the exam have noted down 5 questiosn because they were sus. | Oct 13 05:43 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: then prove Comptia had them wrong. | Oct 13 05:43 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: like the year Windows NT was released. | Oct 13 05:44 |
| gulag2013 | Yes, I honestly brought one question up. The lady working told me to write to Comptia | Oct 13 05:44 |
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| gulag2013 | Don't get me wrong I passed with no worries, but the majority of the questions were on hardware so old, that you have a better chance of getting hit by a bus, than have your boss fire you over not know the amount of pins in scsi cable | Oct 13 05:46 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: what age hardware do you have to perform data recovery on. | Oct 13 05:47 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: on adverage. | Oct 13 05:47 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: ? | Oct 13 05:48 |
| oiaohm | Yes I do ask some hard question. | Oct 13 05:48 |
| oiaohm | The answer is sub 1 year old and + 5 year old. | Oct 13 05:48 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: worst I have had todo data recovery was 3 years ago on a server build in the 1980s | Oct 13 05:49 |
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| gulag2013 | I have been very lucky, it has never been that serious. I do have a few discs in my tool bag. | Oct 13 05:49 |
| gulag2013 | The stuff, I have had it was easy enough to just get the data off, and replace the hd | Oct 13 05:50 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: basically that old crap in the A+ exam make sense when you come accross somewhere that has done something stupid like put a server in a wall and forget about it. | Oct 13 05:52 |
| gulag2013 | Yet, I'm not working in the industry. This is mostly friends and family and i have built a level of trust. I"m not going to charge an arm and a leg for something simple | Oct 13 05:52 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: yes embed item in wall I have seen 8 times. | Oct 13 05:52 |
| oiaohm | where is the scanner where is keyboard..... Where is computer.... Yes every time something different. | Oct 13 05:53 |
| gulag2013 | You are right, but bus typology really? | Oct 13 05:53 |
| oiaohm | renoviations and computer hardware can get bad. | Oct 13 05:53 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: lot of those bus typology of networks you use with fiber optic. | Oct 13 05:54 |
| oiaohm | Yes there is still ring typology in fiber optic. | Oct 13 05:54 |
| gulag2013 | ha ha, that is rough ride. I bet you are wondering, they had to know I was here to work right? | Oct 13 05:54 |
| gulag2013 | That is fiber, but memorizing what a bnc connector is, sort of silly | Oct 13 05:56 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: I still have 1 place still with some sections of bnc 10 mbs networking. | Oct 13 05:56 |
| oiaohm | The items on it don't need speed. | Oct 13 05:56 |
| gulag2013 | Oh my god. I stand corrected yet again. | Oct 13 05:57 |
| gulag2013 | They still use hubs to? | Oct 13 05:57 |
| oiaohm | bnc ring | Oct 13 05:57 |
| oiaohm | No hubs | Oct 13 05:57 |
| oiaohm | What is hubs. | Oct 13 05:58 |
| oiaohm | Please note bnc ring is highly evil. | Oct 13 05:58 |
| gulag2013 | it was before switches | Oct 13 05:58 |
| oiaohm | The distance of cable of the ring has to be longer than the max transimmsion distance. | Oct 13 05:58 |
| oiaohm | Or horible things happen. | Oct 13 05:59 |
| gulag2013 | Why? | Oct 13 05:59 |
| gulag2013 | What is the distance in meters max? | Oct 13 05:59 |
| oiaohm | Think for one min signal leaves from one point on a ring what happens at the crossing point on the other side. | Oct 13 05:59 |
| oiaohm | This is non terminated BNC 10 mbs networking. | Oct 13 06:00 |
| oiaohm | Aprox 150 meters gulag2013 | Oct 13 06:00 |
| gulag2013 | Oh, darn those diagrams were supposed to be for illustration. I | Oct 13 06:00 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: the ring lenth is 450 metres. | Oct 13 06:01 |
| oiaohm | With the one I am dealing with. | Oct 13 06:01 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: basically the fun job is replace it. | Oct 13 06:02 |
| gulag2013 | I only have a tiny grasp on Networking. Which reminds me I should be thinking about that Exam, but it's useless unless i can get some hands on experience | Oct 13 06:02 |
| oiaohm | Only posible replacement will be fiber something. | Oct 13 06:02 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: location 24/7 saw mill. | Oct 13 06:03 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: would you want to recable that place. | Oct 13 06:03 |
| gulag2013 | No thank you | Oct 13 06:03 |
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| oiaohm | gulag2013: seams to be the universal answer. | Oct 13 06:03 |
| gulag2013 | Oh goodness, do they even cover the nodes? | Oct 13 06:03 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: nothing in there can have vents. | Oct 13 06:04 |
| oiaohm | Other than printers that do from time to time catch fire. | Oct 13 06:04 |
| oiaohm | Yes printer on fire is no joke in that place. | Oct 13 06:04 |
| gulag2013 | rofl fire seriously | Oct 13 06:04 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: fine powered saw dust. | Oct 13 06:04 |
| oiaohm | Meets hot printer equals big problems. | Oct 13 06:05 |
| oiaohm | Ok printer on fire is in fact a good outcome. | Oct 13 06:05 |
| oiaohm | Printer exploded is a bad outcome. | Oct 13 06:05 |
| oiaohm | Both do happen. | Oct 13 06:05 |
| gulag2013 | They should do that aquarium setup for there pc's in there | Oct 13 06:05 |
| oiaohm | Yes blast cage is around printers. | Oct 13 06:05 |
| oiaohm | Yes turn off printer open door get printed object close door. | Oct 13 06:06 |
| oiaohm | Turn back on printer. | Oct 13 06:06 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: no you use vent less pcs in there. | Oct 13 06:06 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: look up fitpc some time. | Oct 13 06:07 |
| gulag2013 | i think i have seen thoses | Oct 13 06:07 |
| gulag2013 | Sounds like you are underpaid | Oct 13 06:08 |
| gulag2013 | So do you do all the admin stuff, plus cable management, etc.. | Oct 13 06:09 |
| gulag2013 | Just you? | Oct 13 06:09 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: contract on call. | Oct 13 06:10 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: pay no one unless it breaks what totally suxs. | Oct 13 06:10 |
| gulag2013 | I'm sorry. | Oct 13 06:12 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: the real horible places are badly paid. | Oct 13 06:14 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: the well paying places normally have decent upgrade and replacement cycles. | Oct 13 06:14 |
| gulag2013 | what sucks is I was trying to move out of those environment. I have worked in nasty warehouses my whole life | Oct 13 06:15 |
| gulag2013 | Are you doing a lot of Windows 7 deployments? | Oct 13 06:16 |
| oiaohm | Nasty ware house can be cleaner than highrise cableing channels. | Oct 13 06:16 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: not really. | Oct 13 06:16 |
| oiaohm | Lot are looking at Windows Multipoint | Oct 13 06:16 |
| oiaohm | Basically huge mother servers supporting 20 users each. | Oct 13 06:17 |
| oiaohm | Then ipad and android tablets and Linux boxes on desktops. | Oct 13 06:17 |
| gulag2013 | Oh, okay. So do you have to break it to places, they need modern stuff | Oct 13 06:17 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: windows stupid limits. | Oct 13 06:18 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: any more than 20 users on a server providing RDP things get bad with Windows. | Oct 13 06:18 |
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| oiaohm | Where if the box was linux you could support a few 100 users. | Oct 13 06:18 |
| gulag2013 | Wow, I didnt' know it was like that with Windows | Oct 13 06:19 |
| oiaohm | There are a lot weakness in windows. | Oct 13 06:20 |
| gulag2013 | Has Microsoft been raising prices | Oct 13 06:20 |
| oiaohm | Yes. | Oct 13 06:20 |
| oiaohm | KSM in Linux kernel that does same page matching to reduce ram usage under Linux is protected by a vmware patent. So windows does not have this feature. | Oct 13 06:21 |
| gulag2013 | Man,there are countries in Europe going open source, I'm not sure when it will reach the states | Oct 13 06:21 |
| oiaohm | gulag2013: patents cripple Microsoft from supporting massive numbers of users. | Oct 13 06:21 |
| oiaohm | On a single machine. | Oct 13 06:21 |
| iophk | I thought it was also M$ own architecture that failed in its design. | Oct 13 06:22 |
| gulag2013 | Oh, this is getting sticky. I had no idea it was this involved with patents | Oct 13 06:22 |
| oiaohm | iophk: NT core design is solid. What was done to it in the name of performace ruined it. | Oct 13 06:22 |
| iophk | There were other add ons that prevent the "official" security model from working IIRC | Oct 13 06:23 |
| oiaohm | iophk: Dave Cutler did the core design of OpenVMS and NT. Both core designs are solid. | Oct 13 06:25 |
| oiaohm | iophk: basically having a solid core design does not mean you cannot employ other idiots and ruin it. | Oct 13 06:25 |
| iophk | Yes, but that was in the 90's Hasn't everything else been garbage since then? That was my impression. | Oct 13 06:25 |
| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer | Oct 13 06:26 |
| DaemonFC | 4 minutes ago | Oct 13 06:26 |
| DaemonFC | Golden Graham treats and Diet Pepsi. Breakfast of champions. It's gonna be a good day. | Oct 13 06:26 |
| oiaohm | iophk:Some things done to vista were correcting historic design faults. | Oct 13 06:27 |
| oiaohm | iophk: mostly currect the modern stuff has garbage. There have been handful of bright spark correct alteratiosn to the NT line. | Oct 13 06:27 |
| oiaohm | iophk: compared to the Linux kernel that has many true bright spart correct alterations every year Windows is doing horible badly. | Oct 13 06:28 |
| DaemonFC | I always wondered why old people drive their Crown Vics at 20 mph. | Oct 13 06:28 |
| DaemonFC | I get it now. | Oct 13 06:28 |
| DaemonFC | It's so they can spend more time in their Crown Vics. | Oct 13 06:28 |
| DaemonFC | Damned government CAFE standards killed the Vic. | Oct 13 06:29 |
| DaemonFC | I don't know why Ford couldn't just put the DOHC 3.7 V6 in it. | Oct 13 06:29 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: the other is not having the money to rebush the steering. | Oct 13 06:30 |
| DaemonFC | ? | Oct 13 06:31 |
| DaemonFC | The steering in this car is phenomenal! | Oct 13 06:31 |
| DaemonFC | Best steering out of any car I've ever owned. | Oct 13 06:31 |
| DaemonFC | Rear wheel drive + power steering = best steering ever. | Oct 13 06:31 |
| MinceR | 122118 < oiaohm> KSM in Linux kernel that does same page matching to reduce ram usage under Linux is protected by a vmware patent. So windows does not have this feature. | Oct 13 06:32 |
| DaemonFC | I went to Walmart earlier to get some for sale signs for the Taurus and some odds and ends. | Oct 13 06:32 |
| MinceR | then they could support more users, they just needed more RAM, could they not? | Oct 13 06:32 |
| DaemonFC | I was cruising through the parking lot steering with one finger. | Oct 13 06:32 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: the steering is phenomenal until th car has bad muches. | Oct 13 06:32 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: how widespread is odometer fraud in the usa? | Oct 13 06:32 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: muches/bushes on the control roods. | Oct 13 06:32 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, It's common enough that it's still a major problem. | Oct 13 06:33 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: MS does not have the feature at all. Result is massively more ram consumion per users. | Oct 13 06:33 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: I am not talking a small difference. | Oct 13 06:33 |
| DaemonFC | The mechanical odometers were designed to break apart if people tried to roll them back with a drill/driver or something. | Oct 13 06:33 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: they say you can't sell a car in hungary without it so there's no point in looking at the odometer | Oct 13 06:33 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: ic | Oct 13 06:33 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: Like you can fit over 100 users on Linux in 16 G of ram. | Oct 13 06:33 |
| DaemonFC | The only way to cheat those in late model cars is to disconnect them, which loses the speedometer too. | Oct 13 06:33 |
| DaemonFC | So most people don't do it. | Oct 13 06:33 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: and most of the time not be using swap. | Oct 13 06:33 |
| DaemonFC | The digital ones can be faked in about five minutes by reprogramming the computer. | Oct 13 06:34 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Oct 13 06:34 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: i thought they just rolled them forward until they overflowed to 0 and then some | Oct 13 06:34 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: windows you would be luckly with Window 7/8 to get 16 users in 16G of ram. | Oct 13 06:34 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, If you roll them forward and they pass 999999, they break apart. | Oct 13 06:34 |
| DaemonFC | Then you have to get a title that says EXCEEDS MECHANICAL LIMITS. | Oct 13 06:34 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 13 06:34 |
| MinceR | ic | Oct 13 06:34 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, It's so uncommon for a person to drive a vehicle past 999999 that it's not a major problem. | Oct 13 06:35 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 13 06:35 |
| MinceR | :) | Oct 13 06:35 |
| oiaohm | Not all odometers break when you cross the max. | Oct 13 06:36 |
| DaemonFC | My Crown Vic has 94,800 on it right now. | Oct 13 06:36 |
| oiaohm | Most do. | Oct 13 06:36 |
| DaemonFC | My Precious! | Oct 13 06:36 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Oct 13 06:36 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I'm not afraid of driving an older car as long as they've kept the maintenance logs and had it garaged. | Oct 13 06:37 |
| DaemonFC | As long as it's low miles for the year. | Oct 13 06:37 |
| DaemonFC | This is actually the lowest mileage of any vehicle I've ever bought. | Oct 13 06:37 |
| DaemonFC | The Taurus has 113,500 on it when I bought it in 2005. | Oct 13 06:38 |
| DaemonFC | *had | Oct 13 06:38 |
| DaemonFC | It has 143,433 on it right now. | Oct 13 06:38 |
| DaemonFC | I've only driven it about 30,000 miles in 8 years. | Oct 13 06:38 |
| DaemonFC | but those were some hard miles | Oct 13 06:38 |
| DaemonFC | I have kind of a lead foot. | Oct 13 06:39 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: I had 1 truck that did end up wrong did not dispaly EXCEEDS MECHANICAL LIMITS jamed at 00000001 | Oct 13 06:39 |
| DaemonFC | and I've gone off the road once | Oct 13 06:40 |
| DaemonFC | at like 70 mph | Oct 13 06:40 |
| DaemonFC | into a field | Oct 13 06:40 |
| DaemonFC | and I've gone into the air a few times and landed | Oct 13 06:40 |
| DaemonFC | and driven into a building | Oct 13 06:40 |
| DaemonFC | and some....err....other stuff | Oct 13 06:40 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: so you would be good fun to put in a bush basher. | Oct 13 06:41 |
| DaemonFC | The Taurus has held up quite well considering what I've done to it. | Oct 13 06:41 |
| DaemonFC | If I can find someone to buy it that has no idea how I drive, that would be great. | Oct 13 06:41 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 13 06:41 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: http://www.rollaclub.com/board/uploads/1220080609/med_gallery_958_72_294332.jpg << I guess it does not look like this yet. | Oct 13 06:43 |
| DaemonFC | There's no reason why we need to keep running vehicles on gasoline or move to crappy 4 cylinder engines. | Oct 13 06:43 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: Australian bush bashers end of life for highly abused cars. | Oct 13 06:43 |
| DaemonFC | They made a natural gas version of the Crown Vic. | Oct 13 06:43 |
| DaemonFC | Why can't they just switch cars over to natural gas and keep making real cars? | Oct 13 06:43 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: your driving would not worry them. | Oct 13 06:43 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: how do most Australian bush bashers end life wrapped around tree. | Oct 13 06:44 |
| DaemonFC | Some guy sent me an email from Craiglist about the Taurus. | Oct 13 06:45 |
| DaemonFC | "trade you a mini van for it" | Oct 13 06:45 |
| DaemonFC | uhhhm, no | Oct 13 06:45 |
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| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer | Oct 13 07:00 |
| DaemonFC | 2 seconds ago | Oct 13 07:00 |
| DaemonFC | Time to swap out your kittens for a big block Jabba Cat. | Oct 13 07:00 |
| DaemonFC | What does the Jabba Cat eat? Anything it wants. He's the great white shark that never had to evolve. | Oct 13 07:00 |
| DaemonFC | He might look like a sweet kitten, but he will hunt your foot the second he thinks your not looking. | Oct 13 07:00 |
| DaemonFC | BRRROWWW! | Oct 13 07:00 |
| DaemonFC | https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/1385043_154174731459233_1328209091_n.jpg | Oct 13 07:00 |
| DaemonFC | https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/q71/s720x720/1394128_154173751459331_1205473283_n.jpg | Oct 13 07:00 |
| DaemonFC | https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/q71/s720x720/1381915_154173901459316_2094136046_n.jpg | Oct 13 07:01 |
| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer | Oct 13 07:10 |
| DaemonFC | 2 seconds ago | Oct 13 07:10 |
| DaemonFC | So I got a bunch of texts from a guy on Craigslist that says he wanted to come by yesterday morning to look at the Taurus. So I clean it really good, and he never shows. | Oct 13 07:10 |
| DaemonFC | Then I got a email from a guy that wanted to trade me for a minivan that's had the crap beaten out of it. | Oct 13 07:10 |
| DaemonFC | Then I get a bunch of emails from another guy on Craigslist that basically wants me to give him the car. | Oct 13 07:10 |
| DaemonFC | From: Andrew Hamilton: | Oct 13 07:11 |
| DaemonFC | To: Me | Oct 13 07:11 |
| DaemonFC | Subject: 1995 Ford Taurus | Oct 13 07:11 |
| DaemonFC | What's the lowest you would go? | Oct 13 07:11 |
| DaemonFC | http://fortwayne.craigslist.org/cto/4122237737.html | Oct 13 07:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | fortwayne.craigslist.org | 1995 Ford Taurus GL with 143,433 miles [ http://ur1.ca/fvqq4 ] | Oct 13 07:11 |
| DaemonFC | Sent from my iPad | Oct 13 07:11 |
| DaemonFC | From: Me | Oct 13 07:11 |
| DaemonFC | To: Andrew Hamilton | Oct 13 07:11 |
| DaemonFC | Make me an offer. | Oct 13 07:11 |
| DaemonFC | From: Andrew Hamilton | Oct 13 07:11 |
| DaemonFC | To: Me | Oct 13 07:11 |
| DaemonFC | 600 | Oct 13 07:11 |
| DaemonFC | Sent from my iPhone | Oct 13 07:11 |
| DaemonFC | From: Me | Oct 13 07:11 |
| DaemonFC | To: Andrew Hamilton | Oct 13 07:11 |
| DaemonFC | So you have an iPhone and an iPad, and you want my car for $600? Way to go dude. Next time, go with Android and you'll have enough money for more than a bicycle. Enjoy walking. | Oct 13 07:11 |
| DaemonFC | ------ | Oct 13 07:11 |
| DaemonFC | "The only thing worse than Apple is people who like their products." | Oct 13 07:11 |
| DaemonFC | I have three cars right now, which is one more than I really want. | Oct 13 07:11 |
| DaemonFC | I'm allowed two parking spots, so the crappiest vehicle I have is up for sale from in front of my mom's house. | Oct 13 07:11 |
| DaemonFC | I'd like to get enough out of the Taurus GL to do a tune up on the Crown Vic and some minor repairs. | Oct 13 07:12 |
| DaemonFC | (nothing major, just some odds and ends I noticed before I bought it) | Oct 13 07:12 |
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| DaemonFC | https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/p480x480/165927_287699608039891_1675664425_n.jpg | Oct 13 07:42 |
| DaemonFC | ewww | Oct 13 07:42 |
| DaemonFC | lol | Oct 13 07:42 |
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| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer | Oct 13 08:42 |
| DaemonFC | First Ford cancels all vehicles with a V8 and then they let Microsoft into the car. | Oct 13 08:42 |
| DaemonFC | #whyidrivea1996 | Oct 13 08:42 |
| DaemonFC | http://images4.fanpop.com/image/photos/16200000/demotivational-random-16267135-1044-835.jpg | Oct 13 08:44 |
| DaemonFC | https://lh3.ggpht.com/-WD__CWVkxTY/TadVoe3gkpI/AAAAAAAAA1Y/CqqYs_ERaRs/s400/demotivational+poster+Fat+Emo.jpg | Oct 13 08:45 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.demotivationalposters.org/image/demotivational-poster/0905/travel-australia-australia-demotivational-poster-1242352192.jpg | Oct 13 08:49 |
| DaemonFC | http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2010/087/7/2/Dead_Pakistani_Demotivational_by_Joza1994.jpg | Oct 13 08:59 |
| iophk | More smears : http://yro.slashdot.org/story/13/10/13/0237210/could-snowden-have-been-stopped-in-2009 | Oct 13 09:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | yro.slashdot.org | Could Snowden Have Been Stopped In 2009? - Slashdot [ http://ur1.ca/fvrfi ] | Oct 13 09:02 |
| iophk | http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/10/doj-if-we-can-track-one-american-we-can-track-all-americans/ | Oct 13 09:09 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | arstechnica.com | DoJ: If we can track one American, we can track all Americans | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/fvrhg ] | Oct 13 09:09 |
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| iophk | Meego gets a mention, but otherwise a bit of revisionism going on, trying to shift blame off M$ Elop | Oct 13 10:33 |
| iophk | http://www.osnews.com/story/27370/This_is_how_a_Finnish_journalist_tried_to_save_Nokia | Oct 13 10:33 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.osnews.com | This is how a Finnish journalist tried to save Nokia [ http://ur1.ca/fvrx8 ] | Oct 13 10:33 |
| Sosumi | arrh Snowden, if only he had revealed something that wasn't already known | Oct 13 10:40 |
| Sosumi | well at least he gave the specific names of the programs/units, but meh | Oct 13 10:41 |
| iophk | Specifics were valuable as was official confirmation. | Oct 13 10:43 |
| Sosumi | but unfortunately it didn't change much | Oct 13 10:46 |
| Sosumi | well, anything | Oct 13 10:46 |
| Sosumi | ppl are still trowing their private lifes on the snoopnetworks | Oct 13 10:46 |
| Sosumi | and using "zee" cloud services instead of being resposible for their data | Oct 13 10:47 |
| Sosumi | and since we're nearing november... | Oct 13 10:49 |
| Sosumi | I wander how many'll buy the new M$ snoopbox | Oct 13 10:49 |
| iophk | Few. The last batch went off to the recycling centers for reclamation. | Oct 13 10:50 |
| Sosumi | with it's always listening snoopcamera that can also be used to get info on many users are present in the room or measure reactions when playing games, detect heartbeat, etc, etc | Oct 13 10:51 |
| Sosumi | :) | Oct 13 10:51 |
| Sosumi | at least $ony as much as I dislike them, didn't go that route | Oct 13 10:52 |
| iophk | No but their behavior hasn't been good. | Oct 13 10:52 |
| iophk | They went out of their way to reneg on the "other OS" capability | Oct 13 10:53 |
| iophk | Some people did actually buy PS3's because of that option. | Oct 13 10:53 |
| Sosumi | TOUCH | Oct 13 10:53 |
| Sosumi | I actually wanted to build a small ps3 cluster | Oct 13 10:53 |
| Sosumi | back then, glad I didn't pull the trigger | Oct 13 10:53 |
| iophk | Yes then there were institutional buyers that were building cellclusters | Oct 13 10:53 |
| Sosumi | yep | Oct 13 10:54 |
| Sosumi | there are videos on MIT opencourseware showing that | Oct 13 10:54 |
| iophk | All kinds of computationally intensive research was starting to happen on PS3 clustrers. | Oct 13 10:54 |
| iophk | There were even some medical and physics breakthroughs. | Oct 13 10:54 |
| Sosumi | but $sony decided to kill the functionality, very dumb, not to mention the other issues | Oct 13 10:56 |
| Sosumi | sending credit card and login credentials as plain test | Oct 13 10:56 |
| iophk | Probably had some from M$ on the inside to help push that decisino | Oct 13 10:56 |
| iophk | Yellow Dog seems to have been replaced by Fixstars, but the new site is corporate market babble http://www.fixstars.com/en/ | Oct 13 10:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.fixstars.com | Fixstars - A leading multi-core software development company | Oct 13 10:58 |
| Sosumi | I think it was mostly because ppl had found a way to get access to the gpu and the platform keys deal | Oct 13 10:59 |
| Sosumi | well fixstars has always been behind yellowdog | Oct 13 11:02 |
| Sosumi | even before cell and the ps3 | Oct 13 11:02 |
| Sosumi | it's a power pc distro based on rhel | Oct 13 11:02 |
| iophk | https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/community/osor/news/discriminatory-procurement-specifications-widespread | Oct 13 11:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | joinup.ec.europa.eu | 'Discriminatory procurement specifications widespread' | Joinup [ http://ur1.ca/fvs5q ] | Oct 13 11:14 |
| Sosumi | the Union of European Socialist States is in cahoots with big business anyways | Oct 13 11:18 |
| iophk | They've been doing illegal tenders for as long as they've been buying computers, maybe longer | Oct 13 11:18 |
| Sosumi | and that also aplies to regional governments thx to M$ bribes and what nots | Oct 13 11:20 |
| iophk | from top to bottom according to reports over the years | Oct 13 11:20 |
| iophk | nothing has improved yet | Oct 13 11:20 |
| Sosumi | like the magalhes program here in portugal | Oct 13 11:20 |
| Sosumi | intel classmate + winblows+office | Oct 13 11:20 |
| Sosumi | with the taxpayer footing the bill | Oct 13 11:21 |
| iophk | The Australian government has been paying people to use Windows | Oct 13 11:22 |
| iophk | http://www.lifehacker.com.au/2012/07/doing-tax-on-your-mac-you-could-claim-windows-as-a-deduction/ | Oct 13 11:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.lifehacker.com.au | Doing Tax On Your Mac? You Could Claim Windows As A Deduction | Lifehacker Australia [ http://ur1.ca/fvs6o ] | Oct 13 11:22 |
| Sosumi | all also thx to revolving door between private and public sector between the then minister mario lino and JP S Couto | Oct 13 11:22 |
| Sosumi | techrights has articles about that | Oct 13 11:22 |
| Sosumi | http://techrights.org/2010/03/18/magalhaes-microsoft-corruption/ | Oct 13 11:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | techrights.org | Magalhes + Microsoft = Corruption | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/fvs6u ] | Oct 13 11:24 |
| Sosumi | also as a note, magalhes may have provided dual boot, but no unit that I saw came with Caixa Mgica distro | Oct 13 11:24 |
| Sosumi | http://techrights.org/2009/07/01/inci-procurement-microsoft/ | Oct 13 11:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | techrights.org | Government of Portugal Ignores Procurement Rules and Gives Taxpayers Money to Microsoft | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/fvs7b ] | Oct 13 11:25 |
| Sosumi | yay, my money at work | Oct 13 11:26 |
| Sosumi | http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-10-13/guest-post-they%E2%80%99re-coming-your-savings | Oct 13 12:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.zerohedge.com | Guest Post: Theyre Coming For Your Savings | Zero Hedge [ http://ur1.ca/fvsmv ] | Oct 13 12:41 |
| Sosumi | in a perfect world, they are coming for your debt | Oct 13 12:42 |
| Sosumi | debt reset, yeppiii, not, lol | Oct 13 12:42 |
| Sosumi | although I don't own anything to anyone | Oct 13 12:43 |
| Sosumi | but that seems to be one of the ways to balance the system | Oct 13 12:43 |
| Sosumi | have the big boys take a haircut | Oct 13 12:43 |
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| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer | Oct 13 13:15 |
| DaemonFC | 2 seconds ago | Oct 13 13:15 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft is getting rid of Ballmer and possibly Gates. Rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. #usegnulinux | Oct 13 13:15 |
| DaemonFC | Good time for another ode to the odious proprietary malware company. | Oct 13 13:15 |
| DaemonFC | I've got an idea for the next BSOD. | Oct 13 13:15 |
| DaemonFC | "Your computer has experienced a problem and needs to restart. Please wait a moment while we upload more of your files to the NSA. Thank you." | Oct 13 13:15 |
| DaemonFC | I guess that's how they got a free pass from the DoJ to run their "illegal operation" that should have been "shut down". | Oct 13 13:15 |
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| Sosumi | :) | Oct 13 13:33 |
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| MinceR | http://www.devttys0.com/2013/10/reverse-engineering-a-d-link-backdoor/ | Oct 13 13:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.devttys0.com | Reverse Engineering a D-Link Backdoor - /dev/ttyS0 [ http://ur1.ca/fvt2e ] | Oct 13 13:54 |
| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmerposted toFord Motor Company | Oct 13 14:42 |
| DaemonFC | a few seconds ago | Oct 13 14:42 |
| DaemonFC | Dear Ford, | Oct 13 14:42 |
| DaemonFC | Please bring back the Crown Victoria and remove Microsoft from your cars. | Oct 13 14:42 |
| DaemonFC | kthxbai | Oct 13 14:42 |
| MinceR | they'd also need to get rid of the idiots who thought putting m$ in a car was a good idea in the first place | Oct 13 14:48 |
| MinceR | those are not engineers. | Oct 13 14:48 |
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| Sosumi | just give me a ford siera cosworth | Oct 13 14:49 |
| Sosumi | probably my favourite ford | Oct 13 14:49 |
| Sosumi | but I didn't know ford had M$ in their cars :( | Oct 13 14:50 |
| Sosumi | pretty much all those integrated distraction centers in cars run gnu/linux with some car manufacturer shell on top | Oct 13 14:52 |
| Sosumi | I think, lawl | Oct 13 14:52 |
| Sosumi | it'd be a mistake not to | Oct 13 14:52 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHQ-FB6lm68 | Oct 13 15:13 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.youtube.com | 2011 Ford Crown Victoria 0-60MPH!!! - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/fvtic ] | Oct 13 15:13 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtXb_tpa5ts | Oct 13 15:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.youtube.com | supercharged vic takeoff - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/fvtii ] | Oct 13 15:14 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 13 15:14 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzdI2vCW75o | Oct 13 15:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.youtube.com | Decoy police car teardown and tow away...ONE guy! - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/fvtin ] | Oct 13 15:15 |
| DaemonFC | LOL | Oct 13 15:15 |
| DaemonFC | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-occupancy_vehicle_lane | Oct 13 15:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | en.wikipedia.org | High-occupancy vehicle lane - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/fvtk1 ] | Oct 13 15:22 |
| DaemonFC | In January 2013, a motorist tried to claim that the Articles of Incorporation of his business which had been placed unbuckled on the drivers seat, constituted a person, citing the principle of corporate personhood and California's state Vehicle Code, which defines a person as natural persons and corporations. This argument was subsequently rejected in Traffic court, which commented that | Oct 13 15:22 |
| DaemonFC | "Common sense says carrying a sheath of papers in the front seat does not relieve traffic congestion."[44] | Oct 13 15:22 |
| DaemonFC | LOL | Oct 13 15:22 |
| Sosumi | lulz | Oct 13 15:23 |
| MinceR | lol | Oct 13 15:26 |
| MinceR | republicans do keep claiming that corporations are people | Oct 13 15:27 |
| DaemonFC | The Crown Victoria is the Chuck Norris of cars. | Oct 13 15:29 |
| DaemonFC | They stopped improving them in 2004 because there was no way to make them better after that point. | Oct 13 15:29 |
| MinceR | an overrated fundie? | Oct 13 15:29 |
| DaemonFC | well, there's the idiot and the meme. | Oct 13 15:29 |
| DaemonFC | you know? | Oct 13 15:29 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 13 15:29 |
| MinceR | yes, there's the idiot and the meme about the idiot | Oct 13 15:30 |
| DaemonFC | Well, I was referring to the meme. | Oct 13 15:30 |
| DaemonFC | http://money.cnn.com/2011/09/15/autos/last_crown_victoria/index.htm | Oct 13 15:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | money.cnn.com | Ford's last Crown Victoria rolls off the line - Sep. 15, 2011 [ http://ur1.ca/fvtle ] | Oct 13 15:31 |
| DaemonFC | Then they fired everyone at the plant and told them to get their shit and go home. | Oct 13 15:31 |
| MinceR | Chuck Norris does not sleep. He's worrying about gay marriage. | Oct 13 15:31 |
| MinceR | There is no chin behind Chuck Norris beard. There is only the quivering fear of gay marriage. | Oct 13 15:31 |
| DaemonFC | I don't see a reason why you discontinue something that's in demand like that. | Oct 13 15:32 |
| DaemonFC | Other than the government regulations on fuel economy. | Oct 13 15:32 |
| MinceR | chuck norris believes pi=3 | Oct 13 15:32 |
| DaemonFC | In Indiana, Pi was 3.14 by law until someone realized that you couldn't fine or imprison a circle for refusing to turn itself into Pac Man. | Oct 13 15:33 |
| DaemonFC | Not the brightest lawmakers, even by American standards. | Oct 13 15:33 |
| DaemonFC | but, they represent the public who voted them in | Oct 13 15:34 |
| MinceR | fundie lawmakers are never bright | Oct 13 15:34 |
| MinceR | if they were bright, they wouldn't be fundies | Oct 13 15:34 |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.snopes.com/autos/law/carpool.asp | Oct 13 16:20 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.snopes.com | snopes.com: Carpool Lane Scams [ http://ur1.ca/fvtti ] | Oct 13 16:20 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: https://ribanc.com/files/tumblr_mg5933T1O11rogwl3o1_1280.jpg | Oct 13 16:43 |
| Sosumi | hilarious | Oct 13 16:49 |
| Sosumi | who did that deserves a medal | Oct 13 16:49 |
| Sosumi | must do one with balmer as the rancor monster dead under the metal door | Oct 13 17:03 |
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| Sosumi | or sebsebseb, riding a sandworm from Dune :P | Oct 13 17:04 |
| DaemonFC | http://boingboing.net/2013/10/11/vatican-spells-jesus-wrong-on.html | Oct 13 17:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | boingboing.net | NO TITLE [ http://ur1.ca/fvu6o ] | Oct 13 17:43 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I just topped off the Vic. | Oct 13 17:43 |
| DaemonFC | Just to see what mileage I was getting. | Oct 13 17:43 |
| DaemonFC | 22 mpg | Oct 13 17:43 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 13 17:43 |
| MinceR | lol @ vatican | Oct 13 17:44 |
| Sosumi | value added tax in a can? | Oct 13 17:45 |
| MinceR | :) | Oct 13 17:45 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3167704 | Oct 13 17:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: [](https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=770661752950797&set=a.715704285113211.1073741846.290897664260544&type=1&theater)<br> - <br><br> | Oct 13 17:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.facebook.com | Timeline Photos | Facebook [ http://ur1.ca/fvu7d ] | Oct 13 17:46 |
| MinceR | :) | Oct 13 17:46 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: did you expect it to not guzzle gas? :> | Oct 13 17:47 |
| Sosumi | macosforge | Oct 13 17:49 |
| Sosumi | it even tells you hot to stop smoking | Oct 13 17:49 |
| Sosumi | http://darwinbuild.macosforge.org/trac/ticket/139 | Oct 13 17:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | darwinbuild.macosforge.org | #139 (How to quit smoking in a effective way) DarwinBuild [ http://ur1.ca/fvu80 ] | Oct 13 17:50 |
| Sosumi | fail | Oct 13 17:50 |
| MinceR | maybe it's because crApple refuses warranty if you smoke near the idiot box | Oct 13 17:50 |
| Sosumi | maybe :P | Oct 13 17:50 |
| MinceR | or it's just spam :> | Oct 13 17:50 |
| Sosumi | but it's nice to see some life in the wasteland called macosforge | Oct 13 17:51 |
| Sosumi | that and the apparently defunct x11 port | Oct 13 17:53 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2963359 | Oct 13 17:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Silent Circle is probably moving to #switzerland for #privacy http://www.forbes.com/sites/parmyolson/2013/08/09/e-mails-big-privacy-problem-qa-with-silent-circle-co-founder-phil-zimmermann/ trend: freedom fighters now escape the US | Oct 13 17:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.forbes.com | E-mail'sBig Privacy Problem: Q&A With Silent Circle Co-Founder Phil Zimmermann - Forbes [ http://ur1.ca/f3tp9 ] | Oct 13 17:53 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "The Swiss will give up anything asked for if it comes to the crunch, it's the only reason they are still independent" | Oct 13 17:53 |
| Sosumi | mac in academia is finally dead = br00liant! | Oct 13 17:54 |
| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer Without men, civilization would continue until the next oil change was needed. | Oct 13 18:07 |
| DaemonFC | Like Reply a few seconds ago | Oct 13 18:07 |
| DaemonFC | <MinceR> DaemonFC: did you expect it to not guzzle gas? :> | Oct 13 18:07 |
| DaemonFC | Guzzle gas? 21 mpg is awesome for mostly city driving with a 4.6 V8. | Oct 13 18:08 |
| DaemonFC | It's getting better mileage than my Taurus. | Oct 13 18:08 |
| MinceR | well yes, for a 4.6 V8 | Oct 13 18:08 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Smaller engines can actually be less efficient in some cases. | Oct 13 18:08 |
| MinceR | yet apparently they aren't :> | Oct 13 18:09 |
| DaemonFC | Like when you're trying to accelerate quickly and they're struggling to do it. | Oct 13 18:09 |
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| MinceR | gn | Oct 13 20:05 |
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| DaemonFC | Sold the Taurus. | Oct 13 21:55 |
| DaemonFC | I have money now. Yay! | Oct 13 21:55 |
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| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3170328 | Oct 14 03:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Size of Africa in perspective https://joindiaspora.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/images/scaled_full_50ec65581e66f2c000c2.png | Oct 14 03:28 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "They could have left off Spain and France had they included Alaska." | Oct 14 03:28 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | But Alaska - like both Canada and Russia - is scarcely populated and barely inhabitable half the year. | Oct 14 03:29 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3165178 | Oct 14 03:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: You know the world is going in the wrong direction when 1984 is no longer fiction and people can no longer ridicule RMS without challenge. | Oct 14 03:30 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "Sir... I challenge you to a duel of fisticuffs, behind the servants quarters, henceforth!" | Oct 14 03:30 |
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| MinceR | r4wr | Oct 14 04:27 |
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| iophk | Maybe they've been hiring too many from M$ | Oct 14 05:43 |
| iophk | http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2425512,00.asp | Oct 14 05:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.pcmag.com | iPhone 5s Users Seeing 'Blue Screen of Death' | News & Opinion | PCMag.com [ http://ur1.ca/fvymj ] | Oct 14 05:43 |
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| iophk | http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/apple/iphone/10376845/iPhone-5s-users-report-Blue-Screen-Of-Death-crashes.html | Oct 14 05:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.telegraph.co.uk | iPhone 5s users report 'Blue Screen Of Death' crashes - Telegraph [ http://ur1.ca/fvyoi ] | Oct 14 05:49 |
| iophk | http://torrentfreak.com/fact-releases-video-of-file-sharing-site-home-visit-and-domain-grab-131014/ | Oct 14 05:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | torrentfreak.com | FACT Releases Video of File-Sharing Site Home Visit and Domain Grab | TorrentFreak [ http://ur1.ca/fvypr ] | Oct 14 05:53 |
| iophk | This is so much harder with T B-L on the wrong side of the fight. | Oct 14 05:57 |
| iophk | http://blogs.computerworlduk.com/open-enterprise/2013/10/tim-berners-lee-on-why-html5-needs-drm/index.htm | Oct 14 05:57 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | blogs.computerworlduk.com | Tim Berners-Lee on Why HTML5 "Needs" DRM - Open Enterprise [ http://ur1.ca/fvyqq ] | Oct 14 05:57 |
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| iophk | http://ia801008.us.archive.org/7/items/OhioLinuxfest2013/ | Oct 14 06:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | ia801008.us.archive.org | Index of /7/items/OhioLinuxfest2013/ [ http://ur1.ca/fvyv0 ] | Oct 14 06:17 |
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| iophk | http://ia801008.us.archive.org/7/items/OhioLinuxfest2013/16-Ian_Santopietro-BIOS_UEFI.spx | Oct 14 07:03 |
| iophk | Several of the presentations seem to be practicing appeasement towards M$. No one seems to learn from watching what has happened in the past to everyone else who tried that. | Oct 14 07:04 |
| MinceR | http://i.crackedcdn.com/phpimages/photoshop/2/6/0/209260_slide.jpg | Oct 14 07:04 |
| iophk | I once preached peaceful coexistence with Windows. You may laugh at my expense. I deserve it." | Oct 14 07:05 |
| iophk | http://www.itpro.co.uk/624070/haiku-reason-to-believe | Oct 14 07:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.itpro.co.uk | Haiku: Reason to believe | IT PRO [ http://ur1.ca/2cijc ] | Oct 14 07:05 |
| iophk | http://www.birdhouse.org/beos/byte/30-bootloader/ | Oct 14 07:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.birdhouse.org | He Who Controls the Bootloader [ http://ur1.ca/gdhk ] | Oct 14 07:05 |
| iophk | The guy from System76 should know better, especially given how little UEFI really does for actual security. | Oct 14 07:06 |
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| iophk | http://ia801008.us.archive.org/7/items/OhioLinuxfest2013/19-Jon_maddog_Hall-GNU_Linux_Around_the_World.spx | Oct 14 08:06 |
| iophk | Maddog's talk is interesting but I can't help but notice that he misses RMS point on differentiating between trademark, copyright and patents. | Oct 14 08:08 |
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| schestowitz_bed2 | Interewsting bio, CNET there a;sp" https://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=5516664&authType=name&authToken=tCY-&trk=miniprofile-primary-view-button | Oct 14 08:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.linkedin.com | Join LinkedIn | LinkedIn [ http://ur1.ca/fvzoa ] | Oct 14 08:43 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | www.linkedin.com/pub/rick-lehrbaum/1/a20/620/ | Oct 14 08:44 |
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| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/i/redirect?url=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2Fhgfernan%2Fstatus%2F389747753200254976&sig=d2e90abc58d8ee3dc12c13aed1dcd75f48eca904&uid=26603208&iid=8fcb6134-0714-486f-9d85-b5ff6c23b3ff&nid=27+1267&t=1 | Oct 14 09:45 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | twitter.com | NO TITLE [ http://ur1.ca/fw01m ] | Oct 14 09:45 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/hgfernan/status/389747753200254976 | Oct 14 09:45 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @hgfernan: .@schestowitz The nomination of #techrights for https://t.co/WMkAutML93 is much deserved. Good luck ! | Oct 14 09:45 |
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| iophk | http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2013-10/14/brazil-email-nsahttp://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2300375/edward-snowden-says-the-nsa-is-hurting-the-us | Oct 14 11:09 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | ( status 500 @ http://www.wired.co.uk/_error-friendly/500.asp?aspxerrorpath=/news/archive/2013-10/14/brazil-email-nsahttp:/www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2300375/edward-snowden-says-the-nsa-is-hurting-the-us ) | Oct 14 11:09 |
| iophk | http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2300375/edward-snowden-says-the-nsa-is-hurting-the-us | Oct 14 11:09 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.theinquirer.net | Edward Snowden says the NSA is hurting the US- The Inquirer [ http://ur1.ca/fw0lq ] | Oct 14 11:09 |
| iophk | http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2013-10/14/brazil-email-nsa | Oct 14 11:09 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.wired.co.uk | Brazilian President tweets about new national email, continues anti-NSA rhetoric (Wired UK) [ http://ur1.ca/fw0ls ] | Oct 14 11:09 |
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| MinceR | https://scontent-b-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/1375154_10201559501721717_79698421_n.jpg | Oct 14 11:45 |
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| iophk | http://www.france24.com/en/20131014-radiation-experts-confirm-polonium-arafat-clothing | Oct 14 15:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.france24.com | Radiation experts confirm polonium on Arafat clothing - FRANCE 24 [ http://ur1.ca/fw29g ] | Oct 14 15:14 |
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| MinceR | http://op-co.de/blog/posts/android_ssl_downgrade/ | Oct 14 18:36 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | op-co.de | Why Android SSL was downgraded from AES256-SHA to RC4-MD5 in late 2010 [ http://ur1.ca/fw3c5 ] | Oct 14 18:36 |
| MinceR | gn | Oct 14 19:04 |
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| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer | Oct 14 22:59 |
| DaemonFC | Saw the funniest thing in my life at Walmart tonight. Some guy in a NICE Ford F-350 was honking at Dave and me to get out of his way. When we got to the door, he revved up the engine, peeled out, and turned right into a parking lot post. I heard him shout "F***!". | Oct 14 22:59 |
| DaemonFC | Then he backed up, and hit it again, and busted out his rear window. | Oct 14 22:59 |
| DaemonFC | Like Share 2 minutes ago | Oct 14 22:59 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 14 23:00 |
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| amarsh04 | http://www.wired.com/opinion/2013/10/a-necessary-evil-what-it-takes-for-democracy-to-survive-surveillance/ | Oct 14 23:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.wired.com | Stallman: How Much Surveillance Can Democracy Withstand? | Wired Opinion | Wired.com [ http://ur1.ca/fw4y7 ] | Oct 14 23:58 |
| Sosumi | hum? democracy? | Oct 15 00:28 |
| Sosumi | democracy is despostism, the majority vs the minority | Oct 15 00:30 |
| Sosumi | nothing beats the good old republic | Oct 15 00:30 |
| DaemonFC | That guy that wrecked his truck at Walmart still has me giggling. | Oct 15 00:32 |
| Sosumi | walwart | Oct 15 00:53 |
| Sosumi | lol | Oct 15 00:53 |
| Sosumi | http://t.co/hZo2rN8QVi | Oct 15 01:09 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @jaredbkeller: This week's @BW cover: unmasking the identity of a Chinese hacker http://t.co/bGkHVY6K | http://t.co/k9JyGkyW | Oct 15 01:09 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.businessweek.com | A Chinese Hacker's Identity Unmasked - Businessweek | Oct 15 01:09 |
| Sosumi | meanwhile in the real world | Oct 15 01:10 |
| Sosumi | http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/10/yep-the-nsa-is-grabbing-your-address-book-contact-lists-too/ | Oct 15 01:10 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | arstechnica.com | Yep, the NSA is grabbing your address book, contact lists too | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/fw5ba ] | Oct 15 01:10 |
| Sosumi | http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/10/govt-moves-to-keep-nsa-surveillance-lawsuit-away-from-supreme-court/ | Oct 15 01:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | arstechnica.com | Govt moves to keep NSA surveillance lawsuit away from Supreme Court | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/fw5bb ] | Oct 15 01:11 |
| DaemonFC | Sosumi, He actually hit that pole three different times in his $50,000 truck. | Oct 15 02:00 |
| DaemonFC | busted out a window and left a pile of glass next to the post. | Oct 15 02:00 |
| DaemonFC | At least a dozen people were staring at him and laughing. | Oct 15 02:01 |
| *DaemonFC is going to bed. | Oct 15 02:01 | |
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| iophk | http://mrpogson.com/2013/10/14/two-teats-on-ms-cash-cow-dry-up/ | Oct 15 02:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | mrpogson.com | Two Teats On M$s Cash-cow Dry Up | Robert Pogson [ http://ur1.ca/fw5k9 ] | Oct 15 02:19 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3174539 | Oct 15 02:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: UK Ministry of Defence seeks to counter growing opposition to war https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2013/10/14/mod-o14.html the threat of peace leads to war on peace | Oct 15 02:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.wsws.org | UK Ministry of Defence seeks to counter growing opposition to war - World Socialist Web Site [ http://ur1.ca/fw5ka ] | Oct 15 02:19 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | " | Oct 15 02:21 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | WAR - the Elites only means of grabbing other peoples land and resources. | Oct 15 02:21 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Those other peoples land they grab are not just for 1000 elite though - the land should be divided among the many - but it goes to the few - who then sell it back at massive profits to bankers ...... who then distribute the gains as loans ....... demanding more profits on lands and resources stolen from the very people that together owned all of these lands and resources ..... what went wrong with how people let this happen ....... | Oct 15 02:21 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | . the rule of law and force is still kicking people indigenous people off their own lands. | Oct 15 02:21 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Look for any indigenous people left and look at how the elite seem to target them ....... not on our behalf surely ....... the only self sustaining people left on the planet and we need to move them on .... off their lands with any means possible .......... | Oct 15 02:21 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | The people are coming to realize that any WAR is actually now self destructive and just aims at lower class working people. | Oct 15 02:21 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Just as it always did ....... but the History Cycles are slowly but surely showing a trend of transferring the wealth of our own lands to the very rich ........ who we now are starting to see their own GREED is endless ,,,,,,,, just one more war ......... | Oct 15 02:21 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Go on - we Billionaires cannot survive without one more WAR | Oct 15 02:21 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | " | Oct 15 02:21 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | War on war is terrorism now. | Oct 15 02:21 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3172738 | Oct 15 02:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The only "Supreme" thing about the SCOTUS is that it protects the Supreme (multinational mega-corporations) from the majority. | Oct 15 02:22 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "But none of that has anything to do with how SCOTUS operates: they aren't pro- or anti-Big Business; they interpret the law as it's written by congress. Congress is certainly pro-Big Business, but that's got nothing to do with SCOTUS, nor is SCOTUS in a position to fix it." | Oct 15 02:22 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "Individual Justices certainly can be pro-Big business. Many of them have worked for America's biggest businesses. They're not super-people that don't have philosophical biases, otherwise there wouldn't be arguments over who is being nominated for the Supreme Court. There's arguments over nominations precisely because people know they will take that with them to the Court." | Oct 15 02:22 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "Of course individual justices can have biases. But that's not what the OP said." | Oct 15 02:23 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3172740 | Oct 15 02:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The world needs some good leaks from the SCOTUS and DOJ. Any whistleblowers to come forth? | Oct 15 02:23 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "Brad, there have been a great number of leaks surrounding the Supreme Court in history. There have been many notable occasions in which decisions were leaked before they were officially made. Roe v. Wade, the recent Affordable Care Act decision, you just need to look for them and they are there. There is nothing special about the way the court "works" that makes it immune to leaks." | Oct 15 02:24 |
| iophk | https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2013/10/insecurities_in.html | Oct 15 02:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.schneier.com | Schneier on Security: Insecurities in the Linux /dev/random [ http://ur1.ca/fw5l3 ] | Oct 15 02:24 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | " | Oct 15 02:25 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | I didn't say that there was anything in the court making it immune to leaks. | Oct 15 02:25 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | SCOTUS leaks about pending cases aren't the juicy gossip the OP was talking about, I suspect he means something more salacious, conspiratorial, or criminal. And the justices, while certainly colorful, don't work that way. They don't need to: They're lifetime appointee legal scholars; people don't come much duller. They have no remaining aspirations beyond writing decisions: they've achieved the pinnacle for their profession. There' | Oct 15 02:25 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | s not much to leak, and little value that hasn't been speculated to death ahead of time. What would a whistleblower uncover? | Oct 15 02:25 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | I've read biographies of half a dozen justices and a big day for most of them involves reading a different newspaper in the morning. | Oct 15 02:25 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Maybe some of the clerks, but they're pretty uptight too. Insider trading is about the only thing that could come of it. Yawn. | Oct 15 02:25 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | " | Oct 15 02:25 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | " | Oct 15 02:25 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Respectfully, I don't think you're thinking this through very well. A "bombshell" SCOTUS leak could, for instance, be a letter or email between a Justice and, say a past business associate whose company or a company they have an investment in that has a case before the Court. | Oct 15 02:25 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Conflict of interest would be the biggest thing that comes to my mind. Or perhaps a Justice being lobbied, which is illegal. What if information was leaked about Justices writing private correspondence containing their opinions on the PATRIOT ACT, or the current state of the FISC? What if a Justice privately wrote a letter expressing their regret at having voted in the majority of Citizens United? | Oct 15 02:25 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Information like that being made public would certainly have larger ramifications in the political discourse. | Oct 15 02:25 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | " | Oct 15 02:25 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | iophk: posted | Oct 15 02:28 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | no randomness means no encryption | Oct 15 02:28 |
| iophk | And trouble even with TCP | Oct 15 02:28 |
| MinceR | it's not exactly "no randomness", though | Oct 15 02:52 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3155208 | Oct 15 02:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Why did #Nvidia cripple its #Linux driver? http://www.itworld.com/open-source/377696/why-did-nvidia-cripple-its-linux-driver #windows | Oct 15 02:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.itworld.com | Why did Nvidia cripple its Linux driver? | ITworld [ http://ur1.ca/fuzuo ] | Oct 15 02:52 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "@Dr. Roy Schestowitz: too bad, and shame on them. Really, Shame on them." | Oct 15 02:53 |
| MinceR | it just means that it will recover relatively slowly from attacks | Oct 15 02:53 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3172587 | Oct 15 02:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared:  | Oct 15 02:53 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "To answer the question above: we are living in such society. Even when what is written here is true, there are otherthings that are not learned unless we go to school. But, I like this. Resharing. :)" | Oct 15 02:53 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3174539 | Oct 15 02:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: UK Ministry of Defence seeks to counter growing opposition to war https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2013/10/14/mod-o14.html the threat of peace leads to war on peace | Oct 15 02:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.wsws.org | UK Ministry of Defence seeks to counter growing opposition to war - World Socialist Web Site [ http://ur1.ca/fw5ka ] | Oct 15 02:55 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | " | Oct 15 02:55 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | It is going to take another 10 years to calm down and only then if people start to realize that it is not for the people. | Oct 15 02:55 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Poor people die ........... poor people die ............ poor people die. | Oct 15 02:55 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | How many Billionaires does it take to screw in a light bulb ....... none ....... they pay others to do any job they want doing - with money they get from the very people doing the jobs in the first place. | Oct 15 02:55 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Odd World ........ | Oct 15 02:55 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | " | Oct 15 02:55 |
| MinceR | rich people die too :> | Oct 15 02:56 |
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| iophk | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/10/15/gates_zuckerberg_to_offer_free_coding_lessons/ | Oct 15 03:10 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.theregister.co.uk | Gates, Zuckerberg, to deliver free coding lesson The Register [ http://ur1.ca/fw5st ] | Oct 15 03:10 |
| MinceR | like i wanted to learn coding from people who have no idea about it | Oct 15 03:11 |
| MinceR | they should deliver free thieving lessons instead | Oct 15 03:11 |
| iophk | it's about spreading the lock-in | Oct 15 03:11 |
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| MinceR | geekings | Oct 15 04:17 |
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| iophk | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/10/15/snowden_nsa_snooping_hurts_our_economy/ | Oct 15 04:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.theregister.co.uk | Snowden: NSA hits Americans in the WALLET have I got your attention now? The Register [ http://ur1.ca/fw6a6 ] | Oct 15 04:53 |
| iophk | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/10/15/oracle_says_open_source_has_no_place_in_military_apps/ | Oct 15 04:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.theregister.co.uk | Oracle says open source has no place in military apps The Register [ http://ur1.ca/fw6ab ] | Oct 15 04:54 |
| iophk | David A Wheeler or someone else can easily rebut that. | Oct 15 04:54 |
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| MinceR | no opposition candidates are allowed in a current intermediate election in hungary | Oct 15 05:56 |
| MinceR | it's just like communism | Oct 15 05:56 |
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| oiaohm | http://news.slashdot.org/story/13/10/15/0243230/chinas-state-press-calls-for-building-a-de-americanized-world This is not good. | Oct 15 07:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | news.slashdot.org | China's State Press Calls For 'Building a De-Americanized World' - Slashdot [ http://ur1.ca/fw70m ] | Oct 15 07:11 |
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| iophk | oiaohm: it's backlash from the last 2 administrations | Oct 15 07:38 |
| oiaohm | iophk: this plan has been talked about for a while. | Oct 15 07:39 |
| oiaohm | iophk: really its not about last 2 administrations. | Oct 15 07:40 |
| oiaohm | iophk: China can win the War against the USA by money. | Oct 15 07:40 |
| oiaohm | If USD is removed from major international trades like oil. | Oct 15 07:40 |
| oiaohm | USD value can free fall. | Oct 15 07:41 |
| iophk | Wasn't oil threatened to move to the Euro a while back? | Oct 15 07:41 |
| oiaohm | iophk: yes it was. | Oct 15 07:42 |
| oiaohm | The last major USA default. | Oct 15 07:42 |
| oiaohm | Yet the USA has not managed to pay back a single cent but now is even deeper in debt. | Oct 15 07:42 |
| iophk | Eventually there will be no new lenders, everyone will be maxed out. | Oct 15 07:43 |
| iophk | Then the debt-based economy will implode | Oct 15 07:43 |
| iophk | Also, isn't the yuan still tied to the dollar? | Oct 15 07:43 |
| oiaohm | iophk: there are no more lenders that can lend the USA enough money. | Oct 15 07:43 |
| oiaohm | yuan is not tied to the dollar | Oct 15 07:43 |
| iophk | without further lending the current system collapses | Oct 15 07:43 |
| iophk | there shouldn't have been unsustainable borrowing in the first place | Oct 15 07:44 |
| oiaohm | iophk: the yuan was unlocked from the USD in 2010 | Oct 15 07:45 |
| oiaohm | Yes the last debt screw up. | Oct 15 07:45 |
| iophk | And too much money has been used to bail out unprofitable business models | Oct 15 07:45 |
| oiaohm | iophk: it was the EU that put forward the EURO for oil but did not get china support. | Oct 15 07:46 |
| iophk | Why does the government owe certain businesses a guaranteed profit regardless of performance or relevancy to the current market? | Oct 15 07:46 |
| oiaohm | iophk: this is why I say not good. | Oct 15 07:46 |
| oiaohm | We now have the EU and China thinking something simlar. | Oct 15 07:46 |
| oiaohm | Now if they can come up with a unified agreement USA is in the crapper. | Oct 15 07:46 |
| iophk | Both thinking something similar at the same time, now | Oct 15 07:46 |
| iophk | Bush's policies, continued by Obama, have been driving everything and everyone away. | Oct 15 07:47 |
| oiaohm | They are not in 100 percent agreement yet. | Oct 15 07:47 |
| iophk | That's a cut into research, which means 10 20 years from now a cut in profits. | Oct 15 07:47 |
| oiaohm | USA will lose a lot of things. | Oct 15 07:47 |
| oiaohm | Think about all the payments to farmers not to grow crops and other stupid things. | Oct 15 07:48 |
| iophk | By losing researchers they are losing research centers. | Oct 15 07:48 |
| oiaohm | Like the massive unsold supplied of grains. | Oct 15 07:48 |
| iophk | That topples them from world dominance. | Oct 15 07:48 |
| oiaohm | USA could do quite a big firesale. | Oct 15 07:48 |
| oiaohm | That would cause a fairly large international mess. | Oct 15 07:49 |
| iophk | There are large groups intent on cultivating 3rd world-like conditions inside the US. | Oct 15 07:49 |
| iophk | Largely they are succeeding | Oct 15 07:49 |
| oiaohm | Even doing the firesale the use cannot get enough money. | Oct 15 07:49 |
| iophk | Then you have business ideologies built around tear-down and bankruptcy. | Oct 15 07:49 |
| oiaohm | Heck 2012 the USA was 222 trillion in the read. | Oct 15 07:49 |
| iophk | Now they are applied to governance, like in Detroit. | Oct 15 07:49 |
| oiaohm | read/red | Oct 15 07:49 |
| oiaohm | Just paying 1 percent on 222 trillion is not simple. | Oct 15 07:49 |
| oiaohm | iophk: $52,882.39 per USA cit | Oct 15 07:51 |
| iophk | http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/22/us/politics/us-median-income-rises-but-is-still-6-below-its-2007-peak.html?_r=0 | Oct 15 07:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | myaccount.nytimes.com | Log In - The New York Times [ http://ur1.ca/fw79l ] | Oct 15 07:52 |
| iophk | "Although median annual household income rose to $52,100 in June" | Oct 15 07:52 |
| iophk | That debt is larger than the median annual income. | Oct 15 07:53 |
| iophk | Of course there is also the issue of large corporations not paying much if anything | Oct 15 07:53 |
| oiaohm | iophk: yep that is why it equals screwed. | Oct 15 07:53 |
| oiaohm | Australia is $17,165.49 per cit. | Oct 15 07:53 |
| oiaohm | Bad but workable. | Oct 15 07:53 |
| oiaohm | It would be possible to tax the hell out of Australia for a year and require all it debt. | Oct 15 07:54 |
| oiaohm | iophk: basically the magic line in sand is adverage house hold income. | Oct 15 07:55 |
| iophk | What if M$ payed tax? Then schools and universities could be funded so that skilled engineers can be produced, ending the whine about the "need" for H1B1 | Oct 15 07:55 |
| oiaohm | iophk: Australia population dispoable income a year is $36 082 per person. | Oct 15 07:56 |
| MinceR | m$ would still cause more damage than the tax it pays | Oct 15 07:56 |
| oiaohm | iophk: basically disposable being the ammount of income that you don't need to live. | Oct 15 07:56 |
| iophk | agreed | Oct 15 07:56 |
| iophk | but while it still exists it should be paying taxes | Oct 15 07:56 |
| oiaohm | iophk: so Australia debt level is still fine. | Oct 15 07:57 |
| oiaohm | Its possible for us to pay it. | Oct 15 07:57 |
| oiaohm | USA cits so screwed not funny. | Oct 15 07:57 |
| oiaohm | iophk: the debt level partly explains the massive work in the USA mil to move key systems off Windows to Linux. | Oct 15 07:59 |
| oiaohm | iophk: once national debt is high enough governement cannot print more money unless it want to go into free fall. | Oct 15 07:59 |
| iophk | AFAIK the government is buried deep into M$ and unable to get out. | Oct 15 08:00 |
| iophk | Years ago the Navy was supposed to move to "open systems" but look where they are now still. | Oct 15 08:00 |
| MinceR | they could get out if they wanted | Oct 15 08:00 |
| MinceR | they would eventually have their software rewritten anyway | Oct 15 08:00 |
| oiaohm | In fact core systems are being rewritten. | Oct 15 08:03 |
| oiaohm | Problem it they left it to the 11 hour ie last year. | Oct 15 08:03 |
| oiaohm | To start./ | Oct 15 08:03 |
| oiaohm | In fact what is happening the USA should send a wake up call to a lot of countries. | Oct 15 08:04 |
| oiaohm | Core systems cannot be dependant on payment to operation. | Oct 15 08:04 |
| iophk | Moving away from M$ will save a hell of a lot in the server centers. It will allow great consolidation of hardware. | Oct 15 08:05 |
| oiaohm | iophk: read the write ups on the USA governement clouds. | Oct 15 08:06 |
| oiaohm | iophk: Linux Linux and more Linux | Oct 15 08:07 |
| iophk | About time. | Oct 15 08:07 |
| oiaohm | iophk: desktops are still window ish with look at android. | Oct 15 08:07 |
| iophk | Many areas could benefit from LTSP | Oct 15 08:07 |
| oiaohm | Microsoft is dependant on MS Office holding. | Oct 15 08:08 |
| iophk | either with RaspberryPi desktops or with Userful's own hardware. | Oct 15 08:08 |
| oiaohm | Linux is evolving. | Oct 15 08:08 |
| oiaohm | work on wayland will bring multiseat in as a standard feature. | Oct 15 08:08 |
| oiaohm | Not a special feature. | Oct 15 08:08 |
| iophk | multiseat can be combined with LTSP | Oct 15 08:20 |
| iophk | cuts way back on noise and power consumption and maintenance | Oct 15 08:21 |
| oiaohm | iophk: multiseat is many form factors. | Oct 15 08:30 |
| oiaohm | all cut back power consumption and maintaince. | Oct 15 08:31 |
| oiaohm | LTSP is only 1 of the many form factors. | Oct 15 08:31 |
| iophk | Yes even ditching Windows lowers CPU load (and probably GPU), which adds up for megasites. | Oct 15 08:35 |
| Sosumi | meh nvidia | Oct 15 09:35 |
| Sosumi | they even make it run the marathon to get cuda running with up to date releases | Oct 15 09:36 |
| Sosumi | instead of supporting the latest releases, like fedora 19 | Oct 15 09:36 |
| Sosumi | or even back in the previous cuda toolkit, fedora 16 was the officialy supported release | Oct 15 09:37 |
| Sosumi | nvidia has better CUDA support for OSX than it has for linux, despite that almost no mac, except the imac, comes with nvidia gpus | Oct 15 09:39 |
| Sosumi | not even the last 2 revisions came with nvidia by default | Oct 15 09:40 |
| Sosumi | so yeah, nvidia, FU | Oct 15 09:40 |
| Sosumi | *last 2 revisions of the mac pro | Oct 15 09:42 |
| Sosumi | and RMS branding Steve Jobs a "malign influence" when he died | Oct 15 09:46 |
| Sosumi | well, just look at the general laptop before the crApple hype and look at them now | Oct 15 09:46 |
| Sosumi | at exception of the gaming laptops/mobile workstations | Oct 15 09:46 |
| Sosumi | the other machines, because they try to mimick the mackrook pro form factor | Oct 15 09:47 |
| Sosumi | they also get the problems of insuficient cooling | Oct 15 09:47 |
| Sosumi | I didn't have that kind of problems on my compaq armada from 2000 and somethings | Oct 15 09:48 |
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| iophk | http://source.android.com/source/licenses.html | Oct 15 10:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | source.android.com | Licenses | Android Developers [ http://ur1.ca/3yq2t ] | Oct 15 10:29 |
| iophk | "For userspace (that is, non-kernel) software, we do in fact prefer ASL2.0 (and similar licenses like BSD, MIT, etc.) over other licenses such as LGPL." | Oct 15 10:46 |
| MinceR | not new | Oct 15 10:48 |
| iophk | yes, it's old | Oct 15 10:54 |
| iophk | The more I see of Android the less open it seems to be. | Oct 15 10:55 |
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| Sosumi | http://www.autofans.pt/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Carro_GPL.jpg | Oct 15 11:01 |
| Sosumi | GPL, the gold standard | Oct 15 11:01 |
| MinceR | :) | Oct 15 11:02 |
| MinceR | known elsewhere as "LPG" | Oct 15 11:02 |
| Sosumi | :) | Oct 15 11:02 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | http://linuxlock.blogspot.co.uk/2013/10/new-user-barrier-to-linux-i-think-i.html | Oct 15 12:13 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | linuxlock.blogspot.co.uk | The Blog of Helios: New User Barrier To Linux - I Think I Found The Problem.... [ http://ur1.ca/fw8mx ] | Oct 15 12:13 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "Facebook...be there or be square." | Oct 15 12:13 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | And massive FB logo | Oct 15 12:13 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | pro-Linux blog saying if you're not on FB (CIA informants) you're /"square" | Oct 15 12:14 |
| iophk | Also he should have stuck with packaged applications. | Oct 15 12:50 |
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| iophk | There's never a good reason to lead new users away from pre-packaged applications. If it's not in the repository, then it's not available (for them) | Oct 15 12:51 |
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| MinceR | i guess he'll be happy with an OS that couldn't get USB support right by 2013 | Oct 15 14:00 |
| MinceR | i guess that's good enough for him | Oct 15 14:00 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3174849 | Oct 15 14:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @linux@joindiaspora.com: The Poetterisation of GNU/Linux http://slated.org/the_poetterisation_of_gnu_linux | Oct 15 14:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> slated.org | The Poetterisation of GNU/Linux | Slated [ http://ur1.ca/fw9bv ] | Oct 15 14:03 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "This character seems to want to get rid of all non-programming linux users and usher in a utopia of the True Unix Way by also getting rid of all developers who do not follow it. So basically he's a hipster." | Oct 15 14:04 |
| iophk | "they not only bring with them their indoctrinated expectations, misguided ideologies and flawed methods, but worse still they actually implement them, thus destroying GNU/Linux from within." | Oct 15 14:09 |
| iophk | Really afraid of LibreOffice and/or Chromebooks : http://www.informationweek.com/software/enterprise-applications/microsoft-free-office-365-for-students/240162633 | Oct 15 14:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.informationweek.com | Microsoft: Free Office 365 For Students - Software - Enterprise [ http://ur1.ca/fw9j0 ] | Oct 15 14:40 |
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| Sosumi | yes, yes someone talking sanity on that Slated article | Oct 15 15:51 |
| Sosumi | http://slated.org/a_fool_and_his_money | Oct 15 16:13 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | slated.org | A Fool and His Money | Slated | Oct 15 16:13 |
| Sosumi | are soon parted | Oct 15 16:13 |
| Sosumi | :) | Oct 15 16:13 |
| Sosumi | actually, many games nowadays equals chasing a carrot on a stick while you being the horse | Oct 15 16:13 |
| Sosumi | dlc, too much farming, unlocks... | Oct 15 16:14 |
| Sosumi | free dlc in case of pre-ordering and the list goes on | Oct 15 16:15 |
| Sosumi | but anyways, the gods only need one game and that's quake 3 | Oct 15 16:15 |
| MinceR | i prefer xonotic | Oct 15 16:16 |
| MinceR | (and free software (code and assets) fps-es in general) | Oct 15 16:17 |
| Sosumi | yeah, I'm seeing it now | Oct 15 16:17 |
| Sosumi | but I really don't play any games at all | Oct 15 16:17 |
| Sosumi | university gets the most out of me | Oct 15 16:17 |
| MinceR | nowadays i find little time to play | Oct 15 16:17 |
| MinceR | work and personal projects take my energy :> | Oct 15 16:18 |
| Sosumi | I don't even have a single game here at my apartment | Oct 15 16:19 |
| Sosumi | but I do like when I manage to go home at some special weekend | Oct 15 16:19 |
| Sosumi | you know, like those preceded by an holyday | Oct 15 16:20 |
| Sosumi | to fire my quad g5 and go blow things | Oct 15 16:20 |
| Sosumi | on quake 3 or ut2k4 | Oct 15 16:21 |
| Sosumi | but outside of those fast paced games I really don't like anything else | Oct 15 16:21 |
| MinceR | :) | Oct 15 16:21 |
| Sosumi | and for storys, well I'd rather read a book, that is not fiction | Oct 15 16:22 |
| Sosumi | although I have to admit that I enjoyed a lot Eternal Darkness on the game cube | Oct 15 16:22 |
| Sosumi | and actually asked my grandparents the thing just to play that game | Oct 15 16:22 |
| Sosumi | I was 13 at the time -good times- | Oct 15 16:23 |
| Sosumi | well and got the original xbox just to play shemue 2 | Oct 15 16:24 |
| Sosumi | shamefully, I should have gotten the dreamcast instead | Oct 15 16:24 |
| Sosumi | at least I would have been able to play the first shemmue | Oct 15 16:25 |
| MinceR | i read both fiction and nonfiction | Oct 15 16:25 |
| Sosumi | but that is because I happen to enjoy bruce lee movies or those early ones with Van Damme | Oct 15 16:26 |
| Sosumi | I tend to read nonfiction, but outside of math manuals and computer stuff I tend to go for filosofy and psychology | Oct 15 16:26 |
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| Sosumi | http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-10-15/meanwhile-real-world-americans-sell-hair-breast-milk-and-eggs-make-ends-meet | Oct 15 17:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.zerohedge.com | Meanwhile In The Real World, Americans Sell Hair, Breast Milk And Eggs To Make Ends Meet | Zero Hedge [ http://ur1.ca/fwaej ] | Oct 15 17:48 |
| Sosumi | :( | Oct 15 17:48 |
| Sosumi | hopefully i wont end like in china, where ppl are hunted down and sold in parts | Oct 15 17:49 |
| Sosumi | *it | Oct 15 17:49 |
| Sosumi | or maybe it will, in times of financial like these and with degeneracy creeping everywhere... | Oct 15 17:50 |
| Sosumi | I don't really know | Oct 15 17:50 |
| Sosumi | it was just like 3 days ago, portuguese gov confiscating your 2nd pension | Oct 15 17:51 |
| Sosumi | so if you worked your entire life and managed to accumulate 2 pensions, one of them goes away like the wind | Oct 15 17:52 |
| Sosumi | meanwhile, politicians do a 3 full terms and they get a complete reform | Oct 15 17:53 |
| Sosumi | like if they had worked their entire life | Oct 15 17:53 |
| Sosumi | not to mention their sallary while occupying that "venerable" public post | Oct 15 17:54 |
| Sosumi | ho and should mention, everything is ok, even through they just stole the damm, pensions, no one lifted a finger or said something | Oct 15 17:57 |
| Sosumi | the level of indiference in country is just nauseating | Oct 15 17:57 |
| Sosumi | http://davideubank.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/they_livex.jpg | Oct 15 17:58 |
| Sosumi | just as everyone believes what the man in between vomits (media=mediator) | Oct 15 17:59 |
| Sosumi | in the real world, unemployment in portugal predicted to reach 23.3% by 2015 | Oct 15 18:00 |
| Sosumi | kewl, | Oct 15 18:00 |
| Sosumi | and I did alert some of the folks I knew, they'd be coming for the pensions here | Oct 15 18:01 |
| Sosumi | followed polland confiscating half of their pension funds | Oct 15 18:01 |
| Sosumi | http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-09-06/poland-confiscates-half-private-pension-funds-cut-sovereign-debt-load | Oct 15 18:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.zerohedge.com | Poland Confiscates Half Of Private Pension Funds To "Cut" Sovereign Debt Load | Zero Hedge [ http://ur1.ca/fwahb ] | Oct 15 18:03 |
| Sosumi | confiscate funds -> cut debt to gdp -> issue more debt | Oct 15 18:03 |
| Sosumi | brooliant! who ever came up with that deserves a nobel piss prize in wathever | Oct 15 18:04 |
| Sosumi | well, not to mention that former portuguese prime minister socrates sold government owned buildings and 3 public hospitals | Oct 15 18:05 |
| Sosumi | only to rent them back, thus hiding the debt burden | Oct 15 18:05 |
| Sosumi | again another brooliant deal | Oct 15 18:06 |
| Sosumi | meanwhile the rich guys that the con man (politicians) always talks about taxing and this or that | Oct 15 18:07 |
| Sosumi | has his money in non profit foundations, which can't be taxed | Oct 15 18:07 |
| Sosumi | so the rich guys paying for everything ends up being those earning the misery of 2000 a month sallary | Oct 15 18:08 |
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| DaemonFC | Have my car scheduled to go back into the shop tomorrow. | Oct 15 20:19 |
| DaemonFC | Transmission flush and spark plugs and wires. | Oct 15 20:19 |
| DaemonFC | I flushed the coolant and replaced a bad relay for the rear window defroster yesterday. | Oct 15 20:20 |
| DaemonFC | Auto Zone had the coolant and flush solvents on sale. | Oct 15 20:20 |
| DaemonFC | So I used Peak Extended Life. It says 5 years/150,000 miles. | Oct 15 20:21 |
| DaemonFC | When the car had been off for several hours, I took my garden hose sprayer and cleaned out the radiator grill. :P | Oct 15 20:21 |
| DaemonFC | dead bugs and crap get in there over time | Oct 15 20:21 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAUfJi8ijCo | Oct 15 22:20 |
| DaemonFC | LOL | Oct 15 22:20 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.youtube.com | Lexx - 791 Dance - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/fwbom ] | Oct 15 22:20 |
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| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3174803 | Oct 16 04:18 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Elementary OS 0.2 Luna now thats more like it http://www.binarytides.com/elementary-os-luna-review/ #gnu #linux | Oct 16 04:18 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.binarytides.com | Elementary OS 0.2 Luna now thats more like it [ http://ur1.ca/fwdcs ] | Oct 16 04:18 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | I read "based on ubuntu" and stopped reading further... :)"77" | Oct 16 04:18 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Ubuntu is based on Debian. You can take Ubuntu repos and not use Canonical's bad practices and tools. | Oct 16 04:18 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "I use Elementary OS on my netbook (Asus F201) and I really like it." | Oct 16 04:19 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3174840 | Oct 16 04:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Ubuntu 13.10 Review: A great Linux desktop gets better http://www.zdnet.com/ubuntu-13-10-review-a-great-linux-desktop-gets-better-7000021825/ #ubuntu #gnu #linux | Oct 16 04:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.zdnet.com | Ubuntu 13.10 Review: A great Linux desktop gets better | ZDNet [ http://ur1.ca/fwdd5 ] | Oct 16 04:21 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | zdnet is so ironical..."7" | Oct 16 04:21 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Excepting SJVN, zdnet is trollery and agenda disguised as news http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/ZDNet | Oct 16 04:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | techrights.org | ZDNet - Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/d50sx ] | Oct 16 04:21 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3174833 | Oct 16 04:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Ubuntu 13.10 vs. Fedora Linux CPU Benchmarks http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTQ4MTc #gnu #linux #fedora #ubuntu | Oct 16 04:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.phoronix.com | [Phoronix] Ubuntu 13.10 vs. Fedora Linux CPU Benchmarks [ http://ur1.ca/fwdda ] | Oct 16 04:22 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Slackware+Ratpoison is faster.. :)"77" | Oct 16 04:22 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Yet lacking some function | Oct 16 04:22 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3174754 | Oct 16 04:26 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: GNU and Linux not dependent on Canonical http://fossforce.com/2013/10/disaster-ubuntu-ceased-exist/ | Oct 16 04:26 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> fossforce.com | Would It Be a Disaster If Ubuntu Ceased to Exist? - FOSS Force [ http://ur1.ca/fwddw ] | Oct 16 04:26 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Is that even a question? lol"77" | Oct 16 04:26 |
| MinceR | geekings | Oct 16 04:34 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | http://sphericalbullshit.wordpress.com/2013/10/16/an-uplifting-story-plz-share-lol/ | Oct 16 07:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | sphericalbullshit.wordpress.com | An Uplifting Story! PLZ SHARE!! LOL! | Spherical Bullshit [ http://ur1.ca/fwe8y ] | Oct 16 07:28 |
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| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3178730 | Oct 16 09:38 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: SolusOS: A Linux Distro Stands Its Ground http://fossforce.com/2013/10/solusos-linux-distro-stands-ground/ #SolusOS #gnu #linux | Oct 16 09:38 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> fossforce.com | SolusOS: A Linux Distro Stands Its Ground - FOSS Force [ http://ur1.ca/fwey0 ] | Oct 16 09:38 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "Worst Debian-based distribution I'd ever seen." | Oct 16 09:38 |
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| Sosumi | ubuntu and "Moronical" two things that need to be burned to the ground | Oct 16 09:46 |
| MinceR | :> | Oct 16 09:47 |
| Sosumi | baby! | Oct 16 09:48 |
| Sosumi | https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2013/10/iphone_sensor_s.html | Oct 16 09:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.schneier.com | Schneier on Security: iPhone Sensor Surveillance [ http://ur1.ca/fwf1f ] | Oct 16 09:50 |
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| DaemonFC | The car is in the shop again. This time I'm having them drop the transmission pan and clean it out, replace the filter, replace the pan gasket, and then flush all the old fluid out and refill it. | Oct 16 10:03 |
| DaemonFC | I'm doing new spark plugs and wires. I told them to use the 120,000 mile Iridium plugs. | Oct 16 10:04 |
| Sosumi | which car did you get? | Oct 16 10:04 |
| DaemonFC | and while it's in there anyway, I told them to replace the fuel filter. Could do it myself, but I don't feel like getting sprayed with gasoline. | Oct 16 10:04 |
| DaemonFC | I had them fix the rear defroster and heated side mirrors on Monday ($40, bad relay), and flush and fill the coolant system. | Oct 16 10:05 |
| Sosumi | second had Abrams? | Oct 16 10:05 |
| Sosumi | *hand | Oct 16 10:05 |
| DaemonFC | Sosumi, A 1996 Ford Crown Victoria LX with 94,000 miles on it. | Oct 16 10:05 |
| Sosumi | never seen one of those here in portugal | Oct 16 10:06 |
| DaemonFC | eventually, I'm going to get all the paint blemishes buffed out or touched up, put in a new front grill, and pull out the factory radio and replace it with a touch screen one with navigation system, satellite radio, bluetooth, etc. | Oct 16 10:06 |
| DaemonFC | It'll look brand new by the time I'm finished next year. | Oct 16 10:07 |
| Sosumi | don't do that, just yank the radio | Oct 16 10:07 |
| Sosumi | and enjoy silence | Oct 16 10:07 |
| DaemonFC | I want the touch screen one with the navigation system | Oct 16 10:07 |
| MinceR | Sosumi: it can be turned off :> | Oct 16 10:07 |
| DaemonFC | That way I don't have to print out a map every time I go somewhere. | Oct 16 10:07 |
| Sosumi | ^^ | Oct 16 10:08 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Actually, it can't. | Oct 16 10:08 |
| MinceR | i use a mobile phone holder for that | Oct 16 10:08 |
| DaemonFC | When you push the button to turn it off, it comes right back on. | Oct 16 10:08 |
| MinceR | oh, right, it's the one with the broken radio | Oct 16 10:08 |
| DaemonFC | So I just turn the volume all the way down. | Oct 16 10:08 |
| DaemonFC | No big deal. | Oct 16 10:08 |
| DaemonFC | Right now I'm just using a MP3 player to cassette adapter I got for like $6. | Oct 16 10:08 |
| DaemonFC | you just put it in the tape deck and plug the other end into the headphone jack on your mp3 player. | Oct 16 10:09 |
| DaemonFC | https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/1398794_154021488141224_995077278_o.jpg | Oct 16 10:12 |
| DaemonFC | https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/q71/s720x720/1374910_154021581474548_2122539468_n.jpg | Oct 16 10:13 |
| DaemonFC | https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/q74/s720x720/1384194_154021768141196_1070508783_n.jpg | Oct 16 10:14 |
| DaemonFC | https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/q77/s720x720/1385621_154021928141180_627098852_n.jpg | Oct 16 10:14 |
| DaemonFC | https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/q71/s720x720/1380844_154021524807887_45182308_n.jpg | Oct 16 10:14 |
| DaemonFC | Sosumi, So there she is. :) | Oct 16 10:15 |
| DaemonFC | I'm doing some catch up maintenance and a tune up at the moment. | Oct 16 10:15 |
| DaemonFC | I'll have them do some paint repair and such later on. | Oct 16 10:16 |
| DaemonFC | Nobody ever changes their transmission fluid. | Oct 16 10:16 |
| Sosumi | doesn't look bad | Oct 16 10:16 |
| DaemonFC | You're supposed to do a drain and fill every 30,000 miles, but people never do. So if you get a car near 100,000 miles, you need to do a flush. | Oct 16 10:16 |
| Sosumi | how much did you pay? | Oct 16 10:16 |
| DaemonFC | $2,200 | Oct 16 10:16 |
| DaemonFC | When you do a transmission drain and fill, you only get like 5-6 quarts of ATF fluid out. The system holds roughly 12-14 quarts on most vehicles. | Oct 16 10:17 |
| DaemonFC | So doing the service every 30,000 miles will keep the fluid fresh enough that you should never have to flush it. | Oct 16 10:17 |
| DaemonFC | If the last owner never did the drain and fills, you need to do a flush right away to force all of the old fluid out and replace it with all new fluid. | Oct 16 10:18 |
| DaemonFC | The procedure is very inefficient, so it costs more. | Oct 16 10:18 |
| DaemonFC | They end up using an additional 6-8 quarts of fluid during the process of flushing the old fluid out. | Oct 16 10:19 |
| DaemonFC | They should also drop the pan and clean it out, and replace the transmission filter and the pan gasket at this time. | Oct 16 10:19 |
| DaemonFC | Copper spark plugs need replaced every 30,000 miles for optimal fuel efficiency and engine performance. This is another thing that almost nobody ever does. | Oct 16 10:20 |
| DaemonFC | So the original factory plugs are still on the car after more than 90,000 miles. | Oct 16 10:20 |
| DaemonFC | I'm having them change the wires at the same time. | Oct 16 10:20 |
| DaemonFC | I told them to put in the Iridium tipped plugs because those last 120,000 miles. | Oct 16 10:20 |
| DaemonFC | They're more expensive, but they save you from four scheduled spark plug changes, so they end up saving you alot more than they cost. | Oct 16 10:21 |
| DaemonFC | Most shops will put in copper ones unless you tell them not to. | Oct 16 10:21 |
| DaemonFC | Since changing the plugs is about $150 in the shop, you want the long life plugs to avoid going to the shop every 30,000 miles. | Oct 16 10:22 |
| DaemonFC | If they save you from $450 in shop parts and labor and they only cost an additional $5 per plug * 8, you're paying $40 to save $450. | Oct 16 10:23 |
| DaemonFC | So it's just good to use better plugs. | Oct 16 10:23 |
| DaemonFC | I also took in one of their newspaper ads today. 10% off all shop labor charges. | Oct 16 10:23 |
| DaemonFC | Sosumi, It's a good car. The Ford 4.6 V8 is an outstanding engine. | Oct 16 10:24 |
| DaemonFC | They stopped making Crown Victorias a couple of years ago. They're pushing the Ford Taurus Police Interceptor now. | Oct 16 10:25 |
| DaemonFC | 3.7 liter DOHC engine | Oct 16 10:25 |
| DaemonFC | V6 | Oct 16 10:25 |
| DaemonFC | Ford has these "EcoBoost" engines in everything now. | Oct 16 10:26 |
| DaemonFC | So they phased out the V8. | Oct 16 10:26 |
| MinceR | why didn't you buy a Ford Taurus Police Interceptor? :> | Oct 16 10:26 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, They're too new. | Oct 16 10:26 |
| MinceR | finally you'd have something to intercept police with! | Oct 16 10:26 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 16 10:26 |
| DaemonFC | The police aren't phasing out older models yet, and you can't buy them with that equipment package directly from Ford. | Oct 16 10:27 |
| DaemonFC | They probably cost $60,000. So there's that. :) | Oct 16 10:27 |
| DaemonFC | The doors on the Taurus police interceptor are bulletproof now. | Oct 16 10:28 |
| MinceR | :> | Oct 16 10:28 |
| DaemonFC | I wonder why they weren't doing this before 2013. | Oct 16 10:28 |
| MinceR | is the glass bulletproof too? | Oct 16 10:28 |
| DaemonFC | Not sure. | Oct 16 10:28 |
| DaemonFC | The cops use the car doors as a shield. So Ford started making the doors bulletproof. | Oct 16 10:28 |
| iophk | http://www.wired.com/opinion/2013/10/how-to-design-and-defend-against-the-perfect-backdoor/ | Oct 16 10:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.wired.com | How to Design And Defend Against The Perfect Security Backdoor | Wired Opinion | Wired.com [ http://ur1.ca/fwf7w ] | Oct 16 10:28 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2012/09/police-interceptor-sedan-630.jpeg | Oct 16 10:30 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jc_q6Wa_es | Oct 16 10:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.youtube.com | NYPD Brand New Ford Taurus Police Interceptor - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/fwf86 ] | Oct 16 10:30 |
| iophk | http://arstechnica.com/security/2013/10/dexter-malware-infects-south-african-restaurants-costs-banks-millions/ | Oct 16 10:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | arstechnica.com | Dexter malware infects South African restaurants, costs banks millions | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/fwf8d ] | Oct 16 10:31 |
| iophk | People stupid enough to use Windows for point-of-sale | Oct 16 10:31 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Don't you love how the cops can park their car in the middle of a lane on the street during rush hour? | Oct 16 10:31 |
| iophk | The owner of the malware could snap up lots of cc info that way. | Oct 16 10:32 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: yeah, i love how laws don't apply to cops | Oct 16 10:33 |
| DaemonFC | "costs banks millions" | Oct 16 10:35 |
| DaemonFC | So? They can always print themselves more. | Oct 16 10:35 |
| iophk | http://www.infoworld.com/print/228862 | Oct 16 10:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.infoworld.com | Scroogled my ass | Oct 16 10:39 |
| DaemonFC | It shocks me that people don't take better care of their cars. | Oct 16 10:43 |
| DaemonFC | Even stuff like changing the spark plugs. | Oct 16 10:43 |
| DaemonFC | They're paying more for the loss in fuel economy than a set of plugs cost. | Oct 16 10:43 |
| DaemonFC | Or the coolant system | Oct 16 10:44 |
| DaemonFC | A flush costs $65 in a shop. A new radiator is $500, a new heater core is $600, a new water pump will cost about $200. | Oct 16 10:45 |
| DaemonFC | A transmission service is $50 for your scheduled drain and fills. A rebuilt transmission is over $1,200, | Oct 16 10:45 |
| DaemonFC | Common sense says that paying $1 to save $10-20 later is a good decision. | Oct 16 10:46 |
| DaemonFC | But people are dumb and they just don't take care of what they have. | Oct 16 10:46 |
| DaemonFC | There's a joke that dentists use. Only floss the teeth you want to keep. | Oct 16 10:47 |
| DaemonFC | But it carries over to machinery. Only maintain what you want to keep. | Oct 16 10:47 |
| DaemonFC | Skimping on maintenance is a very bad decision that WILL cost you alot more later. | Oct 16 10:48 |
| DaemonFC | Maybe even your life. | Oct 16 10:48 |
| DaemonFC | People neglect their brakes and drive around with the pads making that horrible screeching sound. | Oct 16 10:48 |
| DaemonFC | What do they think happens when your brakes go out? | Oct 16 10:48 |
| DaemonFC | Where will you be and how fast will you be going when that happens? :) | Oct 16 10:48 |
| DaemonFC | I see people driving around on bald tires all the time too. | Oct 16 10:49 |
| DaemonFC | You might get away with that if it's not raining or if there's no ice on the road. | Oct 16 10:49 |
| DaemonFC | Walmart carries Goodyear Viva 2's for $70 each. | Oct 16 10:50 |
| DaemonFC | That's what I always use when I need new tires. | Oct 16 10:50 |
| DaemonFC | I try to stay out of their TLE for oil changes, but tires are really expensive at other shops. | Oct 16 10:50 |
| DaemonFC | The cheapest tire that Wertenberger has is like $200 each. | Oct 16 10:50 |
| DaemonFC | Nothing wrong with cheap Goodyear tires. The more expensive ones are an immediate diminishing returns situation. | Oct 16 10:51 |
| DaemonFC | You could pay three times as much for a tire that's 10% better, but why? | Oct 16 10:51 |
| DaemonFC | When I test drove that used Pontiac Montana van, I noticed that there was crap floating around the coolant reservoir, and the transmission had been neglected, but he had $1,000 worth of brand new tires on it. | Oct 16 10:52 |
| DaemonFC | People are nuts. | Oct 16 10:52 |
| DaemonFC | I would have gotten the Viva 2's and use the rest of the money to maintain the vehicle. | Oct 16 10:53 |
| DaemonFC | That Montana was ready for the junkyard at only 117,000 miles. What a waste. | Oct 16 10:53 |
| DaemonFC | If he had just taken care of it, it would have probably gone to at least 200-250. | Oct 16 10:53 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09o07bh0k-4 | Oct 16 10:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.youtube.com | Dumb Things NOT To Do To Your Car - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/fwfbt ] | Oct 16 10:54 |
| DaemonFC | I like this guy. | Oct 16 10:54 |
| DaemonFC | People also spend money on dumb things like "fuel saving" devices while they neglect their vehicle. | Oct 16 10:55 |
| DaemonFC | The US EPA tested like 125 of those devices, and concluded that only about 6 of them actually saved fuel. | Oct 16 10:55 |
| DaemonFC | I'd be cautious about those even if they did. They're not a Ford authorized part, so there's no telling what other effects they may have on your car. | Oct 16 10:55 |
| DaemonFC | oh, and car batteries | Oct 16 10:56 |
| DaemonFC | I get those at Walmart. | Oct 16 10:56 |
| DaemonFC | It's dead simple to install those. I don't think they'll fuck that up. | Oct 16 10:57 |
| DaemonFC | +1 on not letting your car run low/out of gas. | Oct 16 10:58 |
| DaemonFC | It puts strain on the fuel pump. It could overheat and fail. That's a $600 repair. | Oct 16 10:58 |
| DaemonFC | The shop will have to drop the gas tank to get to it. | Oct 16 10:58 |
| MinceR | and then you get to figure out how to get gas to your car | Oct 16 10:58 |
| DaemonFC | It also sucks in all of the crap that's floating on top of the gasoline and might plug up your fuel filter. | Oct 16 10:59 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I have AAA. | Oct 16 10:59 |
| MinceR | though i guess some people carry an extra tank of gas with them | Oct 16 10:59 |
| DaemonFC | They'd bring me a couple gallons of gas. | Oct 16 10:59 |
| MinceR | Alcoholics Anonymous Assistance? | Oct 16 10:59 |
| DaemonFC | But letting your car run out of gas is by far the dumbest thing you could do. | Oct 16 10:59 |
| DaemonFC | There's a gauge, and even a light that comes on that says "LOW FUEL". | Oct 16 10:59 |
| DaemonFC | So it's impossible to miss. | Oct 16 10:59 |
| DaemonFC | Unless you drive a GM vehicle and have one of their gas gauges that likes to bounce from full to empty at random. | Oct 16 11:00 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 16 11:00 |
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| DaemonFC | But GM sucks and anyone that pays alot of money for a GM vehicle is a fucking idiot to begin with. | Oct 16 11:00 |
| DaemonFC | They hardly ever build one that works right. | Oct 16 11:00 |
| MinceR | hm | Oct 16 11:01 |
| MinceR | maybe nokia hired that guy to do the battery meter for the n97 | Oct 16 11:01 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Almost every GM vehicle built since 1999 will have the gas gauge problem eventually. | Oct 16 11:05 |
| DaemonFC | It costs $600 to get it replaced in a shop. And the new one will start doing it too. | Oct 16 11:05 |
| MinceR | and where does Chrysler stand? | Oct 16 11:05 |
| DaemonFC | So most people with a 5+ year old GM vehicle just use the trip odometer and guess. | Oct 16 11:06 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 16 11:06 |
| MinceR | (we've discussed ford and gm, but not chrysler) | Oct 16 11:06 |
| DaemonFC | Chrysler/Dodge.... Uhhm. I wouldn't buy a vehicle from a company that puts the fuel filter INSIDE the gas tank. | Oct 16 11:07 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 16 11:07 |
| MinceR | why? | Oct 16 11:07 |
| DaemonFC | It costs $40 to change the fuel filter on a Ford Crown Vic in the shop. | Oct 16 11:07 |
| DaemonFC | It costs about $150 to change it on a Chrysler. | Oct 16 11:07 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 16 11:07 |
| MinceR | also, it's funny that Dodge cars are marked with an instruction to pedestrians | Oct 16 11:07 |
| MinceR | on the front | Oct 16 11:07 |
| MinceR | ic | Oct 16 11:07 |
| DaemonFC | Dodge it or get Rammed. | Oct 16 11:08 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 16 11:08 |
| MinceR | :) | Oct 16 11:08 |
| DaemonFC | Ford makes excellent trucks, decent cars, and piss poor vans. | Oct 16 11:08 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 16 11:08 |
| DaemonFC | GM doesn't make anything right. | Oct 16 11:08 |
| DaemonFC | Dodge/Chrysler has decent trucks, decent vans, and bad cars. | Oct 16 11:09 |
| DaemonFC | The main advantage to buying Ford is that their warranty and recall policies are the best out of the three, and after your car is out of warranty, it's easier and cheaper to have work done on it than the others. | Oct 16 11:10 |
| DaemonFC | The parts are less expensive and generally easier to get to, so you save on shop hours too. | Oct 16 11:10 |
| DaemonFC | The Crown Vic is a reliable car, but every car will have stuff that fails eventually. It's nice to know that you have a car that will require less shop hours for most repairs when something does happen. | Oct 16 11:11 |
| DaemonFC | Honda makes reliable cars, but the reputation is exaggerated, so the price goes up. | Oct 16 11:11 |
| DaemonFC | Way up. | Oct 16 11:11 |
| DaemonFC | Even on used ones. | Oct 16 11:11 |
| DaemonFC | Then you have to find a good independent mechanic that knows Hondas. | Oct 16 11:12 |
| DaemonFC | That's not uncommon, but it's more common to find one with a good working knowledge of Fords. | Oct 16 11:12 |
| MinceR | i still prefer to not waste time on having my car serviced. :> | Oct 16 11:13 |
| DaemonFC | Alot of Honda owners take it to the dealer, because shops that specialize in Honda/Toyota/Nissan vehicles typically charge more per hour than most independent mechanics would to work on a Ford. | Oct 16 11:13 |
| DaemonFC | So the price difference between the Honda Dealer and Import Doctors is not large. | Oct 16 11:13 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 16 11:13 |
| DaemonFC | They're both expensive. | Oct 16 11:13 |
| DaemonFC | Also, Honda doesn't have anything with a V8 to the best of my knowledge. | Oct 16 11:14 |
| DaemonFC | The Ford modular V8 is a damned good engine. | Oct 16 11:14 |
| DaemonFC | Many of them make it to or exceed 300,000 miles with the scheduled maintenance being adhered to. | Oct 16 11:14 |
| DaemonFC | It's totally worth keeping your old Crown Vic going. | Oct 16 11:15 |
| DaemonFC | They put that 4.6 V8 in a lot of their vehicles. | Oct 16 11:16 |
| DaemonFC | and it's not a gas guzzler | Oct 16 11:16 |
| DaemonFC | Even with the worn out spark plugs and factory wires on my 96, I am getting almost 22 mpg. | Oct 16 11:17 |
| DaemonFC | I suspect that will increase when they get done with that. | Oct 16 11:17 |
| DaemonFC | I put platinum plugs in my Taurus right after I bought it. | Oct 16 11:20 |
| DaemonFC | The gas mileage did go up a little bit. | Oct 16 11:20 |
| DaemonFC | I like the platinums because you can go 60,000-120,000 miles without replacing them again (depending on the brand). | Oct 16 11:21 |
| DaemonFC | So when your car has over 100,000 miles on it and you use platinums, you may only ever need to do it once. | Oct 16 11:21 |
| iophk | http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2013-10/16/facebook-third-world | Oct 16 11:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.wired.co.uk | Facebook is trying to buy its way into the developing world (Wired UK) [ http://ur1.ca/fwfgg ] | Oct 16 11:22 |
| DaemonFC | Each time the plug fires the cylinder, a little bit of the plug's head is worn away. Over time, your gas mileage drops, and so does the power output of your engine. If it gets really bad, you can start getting knocking and pinging. Your Service Engine light may even come on. | Oct 16 11:23 |
| DaemonFC | Platinum tips just don't wear down as fast as copper. | Oct 16 11:23 |
| MinceR | strange, platinum is a soft metal, afaik | Oct 16 11:24 |
| DaemonFC | Another thing people neglect is the fuel filter. | Oct 16 11:24 |
| DaemonFC | Gasoline is not as clean as the oil companies would have you believe. | Oct 16 11:24 |
| DaemonFC | Even though most owners manuals don't recommend a fuel filter change, you should do it at a minimum of 50,000 miles. | Oct 16 11:25 |
| DaemonFC | If you take one apart after 50,000, you'll see that the filter media is totally black. | Oct 16 11:25 |
| DaemonFC | If it gets bad enough, your car might not start, but even with partial blockage, you're putting increased wear on the fuel pump and your engine power output might drop noticeably, especially on the highway. | Oct 16 11:26 |
| DaemonFC | Some fuel filters even have a bypass that gets used if they clog, so you're sending unfiltered gas to your engine and it'll eventually clog up your fuel injectors. | Oct 16 11:26 |
| DaemonFC | It costs a few hundred dollars on most cars to have a mechanic remove and clean the injectors. | Oct 16 11:27 |
| DaemonFC | Those bottles that you pour in your fuel tank are not only worthless, they can dislodge some of the crap that's in your fuel tank and plug the filter. | Oct 16 11:27 |
| DaemonFC | So they're a waste of money at best, and might prevent your car from starting, which means you need to replace the filter anyway, like you should have done to start with. | Oct 16 11:28 |
| DaemonFC | If you replace the filter on time every time, your injectors should never be clogged in the first place. | Oct 16 11:28 |
| DaemonFC | Don't use oil or fuel additives, ever. | Oct 16 11:29 |
| DaemonFC | Don't ever get your engine "flushed". If you want to safely remove some varnish, just use Valvoline Maxlife Full Synthetic. It'll clean it up (or prevent the sludge and varnish to begin with) and it'll end up in your oil filter, where it belongs. | Oct 16 11:30 |
| DaemonFC | The filter gets changed with every oil change anyway. | Oct 16 11:30 |
| DaemonFC | I hardly ever recommend a product by brand name, but I do with engine oil. | Oct 16 11:31 |
| DaemonFC | The shops that offer an engine flush should be avoided completely. | Oct 16 11:33 |
| DaemonFC | They're a dishonest shop that is selling an unnecessary and dangerous "service". | Oct 16 11:33 |
| DaemonFC | If you get an engine flush, what you're really asking for is a wallet flush. | Oct 16 11:34 |
| DaemonFC | At the very least, it was a waste of $100, but it could ruin your engine. | Oct 16 11:34 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Does Dodge/Chrysler sell vehicles in Hungaristan? | Oct 16 11:35 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 16 11:35 |
| DaemonFC | I drove a Dodge car once, but only because it was a rental. | Oct 16 11:35 |
| DaemonFC | At the time, it was a brand new '03 Dodge Stratus. | Oct 16 11:35 |
| DaemonFC | They're a nice car when they're new. | Oct 16 11:35 |
| DaemonFC | But you don't want to own one. | Oct 16 11:35 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 16 11:35 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=512660&page=all | Oct 16 11:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.bobistheoilguy.com | Question and thoughts on Transmission flushes - Bob Is The Oil Guy [ http://ur1.ca/fwfm4 ] | Oct 16 11:51 |
| DaemonFC | "Chris B. - A co-worker of mine said I should not have flushed it and guarantees that it will fail soon now with in 4,000 more miles." | Oct 16 11:51 |
| DaemonFC | I had it flushed on the Taurus when it had 113,000 and I just sold it eight years later. | Oct 16 11:51 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 16 11:51 |
| DaemonFC | The flush is a "catch up" service when the last owner neglected the drain and fill procedure. | Oct 16 11:51 |
| DaemonFC | I specifically asked the guy at Daniels if they drop the pan and replace the filter and gasket. | Oct 16 11:54 |
| DaemonFC | Some shops use what's called a "T-Tech" machine. | Oct 16 11:54 |
| DaemonFC | You don't want that. | Oct 16 11:54 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: i think they do | Oct 16 11:54 |
| MinceR | i remember seeing a few pt cruisers | Oct 16 11:54 |
| DaemonFC | It makes the bay technician's job easier, but it doesn't clean the pan or change the gasket and filter. | Oct 16 11:54 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, An alcoholic ran into the side of my Lumina with a PT Cruiser. | Oct 16 11:55 |
| DaemonFC | Totaled the PT Cruiser. | Oct 16 11:55 |
| DaemonFC | His insurance company gave me a check for $2,000. I got some doors off a junkyard Lumina and installed them for about $200 | Oct 16 11:55 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 16 11:55 |
| DaemonFC | I had the estimate done at Pace Chevrolet so that the price would be astronomical, so they'd cut me a larger check. | Oct 16 11:56 |
| DaemonFC | Then I replaced the doors with junkyard parts myself. | Oct 16 11:56 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 16 11:56 |
| DaemonFC | I used the remaining $1,800 on a really nice vacation that summer. | Oct 16 11:56 |
| MinceR | :> | Oct 16 11:56 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, My mom says that transmissions are unreliable. I told her that hers already had three strikes against them. | Oct 16 12:00 |
| DaemonFC | She drives a GM vehicle, SHE drives the GM vehicle, and she never gets them serviced on schedule. | Oct 16 12:01 |
| DaemonFC | They might survive any one of the three, but not all three. | Oct 16 12:01 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 16 12:01 |
| DaemonFC | GM really makes some godawful crap. | Oct 16 12:02 |
| DaemonFC | Really really bad cars. | Oct 16 12:02 |
| DaemonFC | I will NEVER own one again. | Oct 16 12:02 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Chevrolet is both a brand and a warning label. | Oct 16 12:02 |
| DaemonFC | She has this terrible habit of shifting gears while the car is still moving. | Oct 16 12:03 |
| MinceR | there are many of those | Oct 16 12:03 |
| DaemonFC | It's a wonder that they last as long as they do with her driving. | Oct 16 12:03 |
| MinceR | hm, i regularly shift gears while the car is moving | Oct 16 12:03 |
| MinceR | i thought it was normal | Oct 16 12:03 |
| DaemonFC | It's an automatic and she shifts into REVERSE and PARK while the car is moving. | Oct 16 12:04 |
| MinceR | i do press the clutch while doing so, though :> | Oct 16 12:04 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 16 12:04 |
| MinceR | well, that's different :> | Oct 16 12:04 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, just a little. | Oct 16 12:04 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 16 12:04 |
| DaemonFC | I keep yelling at her for it, and she keeps doing it. | Oct 16 12:04 |
| DaemonFC | She's had so many transmission rebuilds on so many cars, I've lost count. | Oct 16 12:04 |
| DaemonFC | She's a really horrible driver. | Oct 16 12:04 |
| DaemonFC | You do not shift into Park or Reverse until the vehicle has come to a full and complete stop.... | Oct 16 12:05 |
| DaemonFC | Unless you just like paying for rebuilt transmissions. | Oct 16 12:05 |
| DaemonFC | I'm not sure if the last owner of my car did the drain and fill on the transmission. | Oct 16 12:07 |
| DaemonFC | The fluid was bright red, but I'm not taking any chances. | Oct 16 12:08 |
| DaemonFC | Especially not for an extra $30. | Oct 16 12:08 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Oct 16 12:08 |
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| iophk | http://www.chron.com/news/crime/article/NH-gas-clerk-fired-for-pulling-gun-on-robber-4900117.php | Oct 16 13:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.chron.com | NH gas clerk fired for pulling gun on robber - Houston Chronicle [ http://ur1.ca/fwg8f ] | Oct 16 13:45 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, My mom has punished that poor Impala. | Oct 16 13:55 |
| DaemonFC | She neglects all the maintenance and then replaced a lot of high dollar parts. | Oct 16 13:55 |
| DaemonFC | It's closing in on 300,000 miles, but she's put a lot of money into it that she wouldn't have had to if she got it serviced on time. | Oct 16 13:55 |
| DaemonFC | When she's done with it, it will be fit for crushing. | Oct 16 13:56 |
| iophk | http://opensource.com/life/13/10/interview-rudolf-streif-linux-cars | Oct 16 13:56 |
| iophk | "in-vehicle infotainment" ought to consist of a velcro strip where the tablet gets fastened | Oct 16 13:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | opensource.com | Interview with Rudolf Streif of The Linux Foundation | opensource.com [ http://ur1.ca/fwgaj ] | Oct 16 13:57 |
| DaemonFC | As far as I know, she's never even replaced the spark plugs. | Oct 16 13:57 |
| DaemonFC | That thing probably gets horrible gas mileage by this point. | Oct 16 13:57 |
| DaemonFC | My Crown Vic is actually getting the same mileage or better than the Taurus I got rid of. | Oct 16 13:57 |
| DaemonFC | I'm impressed. | Oct 16 13:57 |
| DaemonFC | That Taurus was in rough shape when I bought it. | Oct 16 13:58 |
| DaemonFC | It's probably why I got it cheap. | Oct 16 13:58 |
| DaemonFC | It was a fleet vehicle to begin with. | Oct 16 13:58 |
| DaemonFC | I was the third owner. | Oct 16 13:58 |
| MinceR | iophk: a USB charger connector wouldn't hurt either | Oct 16 13:59 |
| iophk | http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/10/arduino-creator-explains-why-open-source-matters-in-hardware-too/ | Oct 16 13:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | arstechnica.com | Arduino creator explains why open source matters in hardware, too | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/fwgb0 ] | Oct 16 13:59 |
| iophk | MinceR: it sometimes looks like they're less about adding benefit to the car and more about accelerating an already planned obsolescence | Oct 16 14:01 |
| MinceR | indeed | Oct 16 14:02 |
| iophk | the early attempts I saw a few years ago were simply wastes of space and distractions | Oct 16 14:03 |
| iophk | with the old UI you could use tactile feedback | Oct 16 14:03 |
| iophk | it was not necessary to take your eyes off the road to adjust a knob | Oct 16 14:04 |
| iophk | touch screens are 100% visual | Oct 16 14:04 |
| iophk | can't watch the road while you adjust a touch screen UI | Oct 16 14:04 |
| DaemonFC | I wonder when they'll be done with my car. | Oct 16 14:18 |
| *DaemonFC is glad he looked in the newspaper. It usually goes in the trash. | Oct 16 14:18 | |
| DaemonFC | Everyone in the county gets a free newspaper. | Oct 16 14:18 |
| DaemonFC | If I hadn't opened it, I would have missed that 10% off labor coupon. | Oct 16 14:19 |
| DaemonFC | That'll save me $13.60 off the spark plug and wire service by itself. | Oct 16 14:19 |
| DaemonFC | I'll probably save like $25 in the end. | Oct 16 14:20 |
| DaemonFC | Every bit helps :) | Oct 16 14:20 |
| DaemonFC | I had them write on the coolant overflow tank lid the date I had them flush that. | Oct 16 14:21 |
| DaemonFC | So I'll remember to do it again in three years. | Oct 16 14:21 |
| DaemonFC | It's always better to do the coolant flush near the end of the year, just before winter. All the shops start doing half price coolant flushes. | Oct 16 14:21 |
| DaemonFC | You save like $60. | Oct 16 14:22 |
| *DaemonFC is tempted to crank call Pace Chevrolet and tell them I'd like a Wallet Flush. | Oct 16 14:23 | |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Oct 16 14:23 |
| DaemonFC | They're so freaking expensive, it's unreal. | Oct 16 14:23 |
| DaemonFC | Take whatever Daniels charges, and add like 80%, and then you have the dealer service department cost. | Oct 16 14:24 |
| DaemonFC | It can be difficult to find a good independent garage though. | Oct 16 14:24 |
| DaemonFC | If you do, then stick to that garage. | Oct 16 14:24 |
| DaemonFC | Independents are kind of hit or miss. | Oct 16 14:25 |
| DaemonFC | Some of them hire idiots, and some are as good or better than the dealers at a much lower price. | Oct 16 14:25 |
| MinceR | 202027 < DaemonFC> Every bit helps :) | Oct 16 14:26 |
| MinceR | Every Little Helps? :> | Oct 16 14:26 |
| DaemonFC | exactly :) | Oct 16 14:28 |
| iophk | http://torrentfreak.com/mpaa-says-piracy-damages-cant-be-measured-131016/ | Oct 16 14:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | torrentfreak.com | MPAA Says Piracy Damages Cant Be Measured | TorrentFreak [ http://ur1.ca/fwgg7 ] | Oct 16 14:29 |
| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer | Oct 16 14:56 |
| DaemonFC | 2 seconds ago | Oct 16 14:56 |
| DaemonFC | For that matter, Pace Chevrolet should have ditched their Chevrolet lot and kept selling Fords. I've *_never_* owned a Chevrolet that worked right. | Oct 16 14:56 |
| DaemonFC | Mom's Impala is nearing 300,000, but it cost her a boatload of money to get it there. For what it cost her to fix that darned thing, she could have gone to Kerns Ford in Celina and had a '96 Crown Vic with 74,000 on it. | Oct 16 14:56 |
| DaemonFC | I do not know what she sees in GM vehicles. I think they're all garbage. Her fuel gauge has that "Bounces up and down between F and E at random" problem that every GM vehicle since 1999 seems to develop at some point. | Oct 16 14:56 |
| DaemonFC | They said she would have to spend six hundred dollars to get the fuel gauge replaced, so she's been resetting the trip odometer and winging it. | Oct 16 14:56 |
| DaemonFC | She ran out of gas and asked her to me bring her some a few weeks ago. | Oct 16 14:56 |
| DaemonFC | My 1995 Ford Taurus didn't give me 10% of the problems as her stupid Chevrolet has given her. She even had to spend $800 on a new rack and pinion steering system. Really GM? REALLY!? | Oct 16 14:56 |
| DaemonFC | https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/p480x480/1377144_155043454705694_45789965_n.jpg | Oct 16 14:56 |
| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer | Oct 16 15:02 |
| DaemonFC | 2 seconds ago | Oct 16 15:02 |
| DaemonFC | Come to think of it, after I do the minor body work on this Crown Vic, I might have them install one of those push bars off a police cruiser. That should save the bumper if I ever hit something. | Oct 16 15:02 |
| DaemonFC | Does anyone know how much a junkyard would charge me for one of those? | Oct 16 15:02 |
| MinceR | :) | Oct 16 15:02 |
| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer | Oct 16 15:05 |
| DaemonFC | 2 seconds ago | Oct 16 15:05 |
| DaemonFC | The only downside to owning a Crown Vic is the temptation to actually get it up to 140. | Oct 16 15:05 |
| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer | Oct 16 15:08 |
| DaemonFC | 2 seconds ago | Oct 16 15:08 |
| DaemonFC | BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP Ka Alert! | Oct 16 15:08 |
| DaemonFC | *Not sure if cop or stupid "Your Speed" sign they keep dragging around town.* | Oct 16 15:08 |
| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer shared a link. | Oct 16 15:19 |
| DaemonFC | a few seconds ago | Oct 16 15:19 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5S6s5dZXNM | Oct 16 15:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.youtube.com | TRON Legacy - The Grid (Long Version) - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/fwgq3 ] | Oct 16 15:19 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 16 15:19 |
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| Sosumi | ever heard far cry 3 blood dragon ost? | Oct 16 15:37 |
| Sosumi | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXv8JVbqwao | Oct 16 15:37 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.youtube.com | Far Cry 3: Blood Dragon (OST) - Full Soundtrack - YouTube | Oct 16 15:37 |
| Sosumi | one word | Oct 16 15:37 |
| Sosumi | awesome | Oct 16 15:37 |
| Sosumi | http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/10/thanks-to-nsa-german-e-mail-providers-see-flood-of-new-customers/ | Oct 16 15:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | arstechnica.com | Thanks to NSA, German e-mail providers see flood of new customers | Ars Technica | Oct 16 15:42 |
| Sosumi | hey wasn't germany the one that got caught by some chaos computer group guy for state sponsored malware | Oct 16 15:43 |
| Sosumi | derptechnica strikes again | Oct 16 15:43 |
| Sosumi | mails in germany are as safe as they are in any other country | Oct 16 15:45 |
| Sosumi | even in portugal, the SIS (servios de informao de segurana) has a special room at main distribution centers where they install their snooping gear | Oct 16 15:47 |
| Sosumi | http://www.smmp.pt/?p=24224 | Oct 16 15:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.smmp.pt | SMMP Sindicato dos Magistrados do Ministrio Pblico Arquivo 36 CIDADO SOB ESCUTA TODOS OS DIAS | Oct 16 15:49 |
| Sosumi | 36 citizens (randomly) put under surveillance every day | Oct 16 15:50 |
| Sosumi | so much for the NSA - GCHQ - Echelon hype | Oct 16 15:52 |
| Sosumi | when everyone is doing it | Oct 16 15:52 |
| Sosumi | welcome to the real world | Oct 16 15:53 |
| Sosumi | btw, after leaving intelligence services, or while still at it, why not become an information broker or insider trader? | Oct 16 15:54 |
| JimmyCarter | moral integrity and patriotism | Oct 16 15:55 |
| Sosumi | well that's what former SIS and SIED (servios de informao estrategicas de defesa), they not only formed but keep filling the ranks of the Ongoing Investment Group | Oct 16 15:55 |
| Sosumi | lol @ patriotism | Oct 16 15:56 |
| Sosumi | the nation state is dead | Oct 16 15:56 |
| Sosumi | http://expresso.sapo.pt/ex-diretor-do-sied-a-caminho-da-ongoing=f618306 | Oct 16 15:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | expresso.sapo.pt | Ex diretor do SIED a caminho da Ongoing - Expresso.pt | Oct 16 15:56 |
| Sosumi | Former SIED director joining Ongoing | Oct 16 15:57 |
| Sosumi | and those revolving doors between SIS/SIED and Ongoing and the warrantless spying is nothing new | Oct 16 16:04 |
| Sosumi | it has been knows widelly since 2009 | Oct 16 16:04 |
| Sosumi | well before the subject was killed by the media | Oct 16 16:05 |
| Sosumi | and replaced with trivia | Oct 16 16:05 |
| Sosumi | as usual | Oct 16 16:05 |
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| sebsebseb | hi | Oct 16 16:06 |
| Sosumi | seb | Oct 16 16:07 |
| sebsebseb | Sosumi: uh meant too be making another slide show or two | Oct 16 16:08 |
| sebsebseb | Sosumi: I plan too speak at http://oggcamp.org this weekend | Oct 16 16:08 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | oggcamp.org | OggCamp | Oct 16 16:08 |
| sebsebseb | at least a five minutes Lightning Talk | Oct 16 16:08 |
| sebsebseb | maybe my own room depends | Oct 16 16:08 |
| Sosumi | nice | Oct 16 16:08 |
| sebsebseb | Sosumi: own room needs votes | Oct 16 16:08 |
| sebsebseb | voted in | Oct 16 16:08 |
| sebsebseb | need enough votes or no talk | Oct 16 16:09 |
| sebsebseb | also if the vote sytem goes down on me like last year when I need vvotes i guess not talk agian | Oct 16 16:09 |
| Sosumi | "Lightning Talks | Oct 16 16:10 |
| Sosumi | - This year the main stage will play host to a half-hour session of 5-minute lightning talks. Sign-up details will be given on the day." | Oct 16 16:10 |
| Sosumi | no voting yet | Oct 16 16:10 |
| Sosumi | but I wonte forget to vote on you, no worries | Oct 16 16:10 |
| Sosumi | seb for head of Mageia propaganda office | Oct 16 16:11 |
| Sosumi | sad that the event is also sponsored by Moronical | Oct 16 16:12 |
| Sosumi | ho and M$ has officially turned Mantle down | Oct 16 16:16 |
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| Sosumi | monopoly$oft trying to keep competition out of DX | Oct 16 16:27 |
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| DaemonFC | $400 | Oct 16 17:09 |
| DaemonFC | Car is running good though. | Oct 16 17:09 |
| Sosumi | hows the debt ceiling thing going? | Oct 16 17:40 |
| Sosumi | will blood run on the street? :) | Oct 16 17:41 |
| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer shared a link. | Oct 16 17:50 |
| DaemonFC | 5 hours ago | Oct 16 17:50 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2013/10/16/government-shutdown-debt-limit-congress-deal/2993181/ | Oct 16 17:50 |
| DaemonFC | The Republicans seem to have come to their senses at the last minute and start behaving like grown ups (for the moment). | Oct 16 17:50 |
| DaemonFC | For now, they won't get the Social Security and Medicare cuts and middle class tax hikes (Chained CPI) that they wanted. The only thing they got through is something that I actually agree with. Income verification for people wanting health insurance on the new exchanges. | Oct 16 17:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.usatoday.com | House agrees to move Senate debt ceiling deal [ http://ur1.ca/fwh2t ] | Oct 16 17:50 |
| Sosumi | sounds to me like a mix of wag the dog and the death by a thousand cuts | Oct 16 17:53 |
| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer | Oct 16 17:53 |
| DaemonFC | 2 seconds ago | Oct 16 17:53 |
| DaemonFC | The Weather Channel's website has really gotten annoying. Now they even have "Vista 8" style tiles. | Oct 16 17:53 |
| DaemonFC | *barf* | Oct 16 17:53 |
| DaemonFC | I need to switch my start page to Weather Underground. Last night, it was storming while the Weather Channel said "clear with 0% chance of rain". Fail. | Oct 16 17:53 |
| Sosumi | you know, 8 stands for infinity, literally, lol | Oct 16 17:55 |
| Sosumi | so vista 8 = infinite possibilities of disaster | Oct 16 17:55 |
| Sosumi | and now the new Vista 8.1 is the same thing | Oct 16 17:56 |
| Sosumi | because 8.1=8 | Oct 16 17:56 |
| Sosumi | math never lies | Oct 16 17:56 |
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| Sosumi | although, vista 8 is less than a disaster than OSX | Oct 16 18:06 |
| Sosumi | Launchpad? seriously... | Oct 16 18:06 |
| Sosumi | what M$ did with the tiles thing was merge the Dashboard and Launchpad | Oct 16 18:07 |
| Sosumi | basically, two jokes into a bigger joke | Oct 16 18:07 |
| Sosumi | but at least they made it funccional with live tiles and bloat | Oct 16 18:08 |
| Sosumi | that's why it's better (like in comparing poop) | Oct 16 18:08 |
| Sosumi | and I say it trully | Oct 16 18:10 |
| Sosumi | I don't like KDE | Oct 16 18:10 |
| Sosumi | but on my opinion it's the best GUI i've used | Oct 16 18:11 |
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| Sosumi | enlightned ranks there too, | Oct 16 18:11 |
| Sosumi | also very nice to use | Oct 16 18:11 |
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| Sosumi | http://news.firedoglake.com/2013/09/13/saudis-sending-deathrow-prisoners-to-fight-with-rebels-in-syria/ | Oct 16 18:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | news.firedoglake.com | Saudis Sending Death Row Prisoners To Fight With Rebels In Syria | FDL News Desk [ http://ur1.ca/fwh7b ] | Oct 16 18:12 |
| Sosumi | reality distorcion field -> got to love those peace loving middle eastern democracies | Oct 16 18:13 |
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| Sosumi | http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-10-16/keith-alexander-nsa-head-stepping-down | Oct 16 18:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.zerohedge.com | Keith Alexander, NSA Head, Stepping Down | Zero Hedge [ http://ur1.ca/fwh7y ] | Oct 16 18:15 |
| Sosumi | he's going to spend the rest of is life as a "cutter", like in the 2004 film "The Final Cut" | Oct 16 18:16 |
| Sosumi | http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0364343/ | Oct 16 18:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.imdb.com | The Final Cut (2004) - IMDb | Oct 16 18:16 |
| MinceR | gn | Oct 16 18:21 |
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| DaemonFC | I'm going to try to get the body parts I need for my car from a junkyard. | Oct 16 19:44 |
| DaemonFC | Hopefully I can find a '96 Crown Victoria that hasn't had any front end damage that's the same color. | Oct 16 19:44 |
| DaemonFC | If I can do that, I won't need to paint anything. | Oct 16 19:45 |
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| iophk | http://www.zdnet.com/samba-4-1-brings-linux-desktop-and-mac-files-from-windows-8-server-2012-7000021945/ | Oct 17 02:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.zdnet.com | Samba 4.1 brings Linux desktop and Mac files from Windows 8, Server 2012 | ZDNet [ http://ur1.ca/fwjjx ] | Oct 17 02:53 |
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| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3178982 | Oct 17 04:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: NSA Has Spurred Renewed Interest In Thorough Security Audits Of Popular 'Secure' Software http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20131015/10040524884/nsa-has-spurred-renewed-interest-thorough-security-audits-popular-secure-software.shtml #truecrypt | Oct 17 04:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.techdirt.com | NSA Has Spurred Renewed Interest In Thorough Security Audits Of Popular 'Secure' Software | Techdirt [ http://ur1.ca/fwfxb ] | Oct 17 04:17 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "While I don't think TrueCrypt has been OSI-certified, I'm pretty sure the source is available and many of objections by the distro maintainers have been alleviated." | Oct 17 04:17 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | " | Oct 17 04:21 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | The problem is that people think they can run free software on top of non free software like Windows or OSX. That's transparently foolish, but people think they can somehow hide things from an OS that's logging their keystrokes and everything else they do. | Oct 17 04:21 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | The same problems happen when you put non free software, like Nvidia drivers or Flash, on top of GNU/Linux. Regardless of what the owners say, non free software always has the power to betray the user. | Oct 17 04:21 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Techdirt and most of the tech press do not do enough to convince people this is true. This article leaves the reader with the impression that precompiled binaries for Windows can somehow be audited and then have some privacy on Windows. The tech press in general has failed badly to understand what's really at stake with software freedom. Most of it is infiltrated and subverted by Microsoft and other non free software companies | Oct 17 04:21 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | that won't allow them to say that non free software is immoral and impossible to trust or verify. | Oct 17 04:21 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | " | Oct 17 04:21 |
| iophk | Also the drivers have kernel-level access. | Oct 17 04:21 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | I agree with Will, except for the accusation of sorts against TechDirt, which should generally know better about FOSS (Mike Masnick usually does better than that and I had noticed his omission also). | Oct 17 04:22 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | " | Oct 17 04:22 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Yes, I agree with you in that regard. Though I would add that if we take it to the extreme, even open-source binaries can't be trusted either as it's entirely possible to replace a file in transit. | Oct 17 04:22 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | If we let this logic run its course everyone should be using 100% GPL code that they compile themselves. The problem is, that's a reality in terms of technical feasibility for very, very few people in this world. | Oct 17 04:22 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | " | Oct 17 04:22 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | One of our clients in the UK govt. require us to have a formal build process with much auditing even for FOSS, for this very reason. | Oct 17 04:23 |
| brendyn | It doesn't need to be GPL? | Oct 17 04:23 |
| iophk | The binaries can be replaced in transit if they are not signed. AFAIK RPM and APT keep checksums and then the register of checksums is PGP signed. | Oct 17 04:23 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | *requires | Oct 17 04:23 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3172412 | Oct 17 04:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Techrights Was Right About Skype All Along http://techrights.org/2013/10/14/techrights-on-skype/ #skype #privacy | Oct 17 04:24 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "Dr. Roy. I like your site. Lot of interesting reading. But you really need to give it a facelift , the layout looks awful. You have this transparent right margin going straight through the live news and pages boxes. I know it is all about content but... :-)" | Oct 17 04:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techrights.org | Techrights Was Right About Skype All Along | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/fwjye ] | Oct 17 04:24 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | other people mentioned the same layout issue. It has been like this for nearly 7 years - layout has been preserved for consistency, unlikely to change in the near future but might | Oct 17 04:25 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/3181229 | Oct 17 04:33 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.joindiaspora.com | ### #Golf ball hitting #steel at 150mph, recorded at 70 000fps [ http://ur1.ca/fwjzl ] | Oct 17 04:33 |
| MinceR | r4wr | Oct 17 04:42 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3178996 | Oct 17 04:45 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Just because one way or another the NSA's cybercriminals can get your data doesn't justify giving up and making it easier for them. | Oct 17 04:45 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "I have so many friends, friends who love their Android phones and their Kindle Fires, who constantly respond to continuing NSA revelations with "they're going to get it no matter what," "I have nothing to hide," etc. There's a lot of defeatists out there right now, unfortunately." | Oct 17 04:45 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Defeatists are a real issue, but worse are those who ridicule those who aren;t. | Oct 17 04:45 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3178718 | Oct 17 04:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Steve Ballmer's slogan is similar to that of another (think Godwin Law), but then again, Microsoft is saving the world, in its own mind. | Oct 17 04:47 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "It was my impression that they would soon disappear, and that was in 1998. Why they still exist is a mystery to me." | Oct 17 04:47 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | In 1998 microsoft had massive losses it had hidden, but it continued to serve NSA by harvesting data on the whole world. | Oct 17 04:47 |
| MinceR | saving the world from itself? that would be nice, if a little overdue | Oct 17 04:48 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3178538 | Oct 17 04:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Linux only needs one 'killer' game to explode, says Battlefield director http://www.polygon.com/2013/10/12/4826190/linux-only-needs-one-killer-game-to-explode-says-battlefield-director #gnu #linux #game #killerapp | Oct 17 04:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.polygon.com | Linux only needs one 'killer' game to explode, says Battlefield director | Polygon [ http://ur1.ca/fwk21 ] | Oct 17 04:48 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "And this has been true for the last 15 years." | Oct 17 04:48 |
| iophk | http://mrpogson.com/2013/10/16/laptop-computers-at-walmart-now-include-lots-of-linux/ | Oct 17 04:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | mrpogson.com | Laptop Computers At Walmart Now Include Lots Of */Linux | Robert Pogson [ http://ur1.ca/fwk39 ] | Oct 17 04:54 |
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| schestowitz_bed2 | http://www.yourfuturejob.com/job/linux-technical-expert-%E2%80%93-linux-format-fp00417/ http://tuxradar.com/content/linux-format-hiring | Oct 17 05:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.yourfuturejob.com | Linux Technical Expert Linux Format | Job vacancy, posted: October 7, 2013 | Future Publishing Jobs [ http://ur1.ca/fwk7z ] | Oct 17 05:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | tuxradar.com | Linux Format is hiring | TuxRadar Linux [ http://ur1.ca/fwk80 ] | Oct 17 05:16 |
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| MinceR | http://static.mellbimbo.eu/files/2013/10/17/acid_picdump_97.jpg | Oct 17 07:39 |
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| schestowitz_bed2 | singling out android for security FUD | Oct 17 08:11 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | http://www.av-test.org/en/about-the-institute/partners/ | Oct 17 08:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.av-test.org | AV-TEST - The Independent IT-Security Institute: Partners [ http://ur1.ca/fwl5s ] | Oct 17 08:11 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | http://www.pcworld.com/article/2052810/security-to-go-three-tips-to-keep-your-mobile-data-safe.html | Oct 17 08:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.pcworld.com | Security to go: Three tips to keep your mobile data safe | PCWorld [ http://ur1.ca/fwl5t ] | Oct 17 08:11 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/3182128 | Oct 17 08:13 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.joindiaspora.com | The United States... [ http://ur1.ca/fwl6h ] | Oct 17 08:13 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://www.joindiaspora.com/p/3182128 | Oct 17 08:13 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.joindiaspora.com | The United States... | Oct 17 08:13 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | More FUD http://www.itworld.com/open-source/378831/will-android-survive-chaos-google-samsung-and-htc | Oct 17 08:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.itworld.com | Will Android survive the chaos of Google, Samsung and HTC? | ITworld [ http://ur1.ca/fwl6y ] | Oct 17 08:17 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | along the same lines as yesterday's | Oct 17 08:17 |
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| Sosumi | well, gnu/linux needs a killer app | Oct 17 09:50 |
| Sosumi | why not release BF4 for it then? | Oct 17 09:51 |
| Sosumi | DICE and EA = joke | Oct 17 09:51 |
| Sosumi | http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/10/windows-8-1-what-a-difference-a-year-makes/ | Oct 17 09:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | arstechnica.com | Windows 8.1: What a difference a year makes | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/fwljn ] | Oct 17 09:53 |
| Sosumi | peter bright's review, sponsored by M$ | Oct 17 09:54 |
| Sosumi | because damm, no words to describe the amount of failure vista is | Oct 17 09:54 |
| Sosumi | and the guy praises the thing | Oct 17 09:54 |
| Sosumi | it's a disaster, M$ should just scrap the entire metro interface | Oct 17 09:55 |
| Sosumi | which is just two failures (dashboard and launchpad) merged together | Oct 17 09:55 |
| Sosumi | http://www.pcworld.com/article/2055640/apples-claim-of-unbreakable-imessage-encryption-basically-lies-researchers-say.html | Oct 17 10:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.macworld.com | Researchers challenge Apple's claim of unbreakable iMessage encryption | Macworld [ http://ur1.ca/fwlna ] | Oct 17 10:23 |
| iophk | bright and other shills seem to be in every publication now. | Oct 17 10:36 |
| iophk | Some have several at the same time. | Oct 17 10:36 |
| iophk | Some have many, like the BBC | Oct 17 10:36 |
| iophk | Even The Guardian has at least one. | Oct 17 10:40 |
| Sosumi | I'm surprised he didn't write 20 pages+ review | Oct 17 10:53 |
| Sosumi | like they do for OSX reviews | Oct 17 10:53 |
| iophk | http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2301281/canonical-steals-windows-81s-thunder-with-ubuntu-1310-release | Oct 17 10:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.theinquirer.net | Canonical steals Windows 8.1's thunder with Ubuntu 13.10 release- The Inquirer [ http://ur1.ca/fwlr5 ] | Oct 17 10:55 |
| iophk | "Canonical is touting the Ubuntu 13.10 release as the "first step to mobile [and] PC convergence"" | Oct 17 10:56 |
| iophk | IIRC it still has the spyware issue by default. | Oct 17 10:56 |
| iophk | Xubuntu, Lubuntu, and Kubuntu don't | Oct 17 10:56 |
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| Sosumi | yay moronical | Oct 17 11:04 |
| Sosumi | praising M$ and supporting mono | Oct 17 11:05 |
| Sosumi | and ofc, sending searches by default to amazon | Oct 17 11:05 |
| MinceR | also praising crApple | Oct 17 11:06 |
| MinceR | and attacking other GNU/Linux distributions | Oct 17 11:06 |
| MinceR | and demanding "respect" for all this | Oct 17 11:06 |
| Sosumi | yep | Oct 17 11:10 |
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| Sosumi | http://www.cinemablend.com/games/crytek-admits-microsoft-had-rewrite-xbox-one-code-run-software-59912.html | Oct 17 11:26 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.cinemablend.com | Crytek Admits Microsoft Had To Rewrite Xbox One Code To Run Software [ http://ur1.ca/fwlt7 ] | Oct 17 11:26 |
| Sosumi | also, ps4 running BF4 at 900p, xbone at 700p | Oct 17 11:27 |
| Sosumi | hopefully m$ gaming division finally dies this year | Oct 17 11:27 |
| Sosumi | I mean, this gen | Oct 17 11:27 |
| iophk | it has been a money loser for a long time, they'll keep pouring money into it just to try to hurt Nintendo and Sony. | Oct 17 11:30 |
| iophk | Ouya might hurt them, too. | Oct 17 11:30 |
| iophk | Same with Steambox. | Oct 17 11:31 |
| iophk | The market is getting even more competitive. | Oct 17 11:31 |
| Sosumi | ouya was kind of a failure | Oct 17 11:31 |
| iophk | not yet | Oct 17 11:31 |
| Sosumi | and nintendo is failing with their game gear | Oct 17 11:32 |
| Sosumi | I mean wii u | Oct 17 11:32 |
| iophk | yeah | Oct 17 11:32 |
| iophk | The Wii is still doing ok though last I heard. | Oct 17 11:32 |
| Sosumi | yeah kind of, among the casual ppl | Oct 17 11:33 |
| Sosumi | and children | Oct 17 11:33 |
| iophk | Steam will cut into that part of the market. | Oct 17 11:34 |
| iophk | There's no place for the xbone, the high end is taken and the low end is taken and the middle is not big | Oct 17 11:34 |
| iophk | then there are all the drawbacks that scare away buyers | Oct 17 11:34 |
| iophk | Too bad Sony screwed so many people over badly with the rootkit and the OtherOS fiasco. | Oct 17 11:35 |
| Sosumi | yep, I really hope the steambox actually succeedes | Oct 17 11:35 |
| iophk | Steambox can be a good low-end desktop for mail and surfing. | Oct 17 11:36 |
| Sosumi | although outside the console ppl, pc gaming as never been stronger | Oct 17 11:36 |
| Sosumi | as it is now | Oct 17 11:36 |
| iophk | As more go back to OpenGL that could change. | Oct 17 11:36 |
| iophk | Many gamers only what what is fastest. | Oct 17 11:36 |
| Sosumi | fastest and easiest to get the games running | Oct 17 11:37 |
| Sosumi | that's why consoles are usually the go to | Oct 17 11:37 |
| iophk | Can't beat the graphical package managers in Linux | Oct 17 11:37 |
| iophk | those are very easy. | Oct 17 11:37 |
| Sosumi | but PC gaming, you know those ppl that build their systems, is stronger than ever | Oct 17 11:37 |
| Sosumi | yeah, well, let's hope nvidia doesn't screw things more than they already did | Oct 17 11:38 |
| iophk | They're still not out of the woods. | Oct 17 11:38 |
| iophk | old - http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/09/nvidia-seeks-peace-with-linux-pledges-help-on-open-source-driver/ | Oct 17 11:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | arstechnica.com | Nvidia seeks peace with Linux, pledges help on open source driver (Updated) | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/fwlug ] | Oct 17 11:40 |
| Sosumi | help... | Oct 17 11:40 |
| Sosumi | and then they cripple their linux driver to keep parity with winblows | Oct 17 11:40 |
| iophk | I'm surprised that with the nsa revelations there is not more outrage about the binary-only, proprietary blobs. You can hide a lot of stuff in a few megs. | Oct 17 11:40 |
| Sosumi | no oficial support for cuda on latest releases | Oct 17 11:41 |
| Sosumi | no one cares about the NSA | Oct 17 11:41 |
| iophk | https://matt.ucc.asn.au/dropbear/dropbear.html | Oct 17 11:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | matt.ucc.asn.au | Dropbear SSH [ http://ur1.ca/fwluh ] | Oct 17 11:41 |
| iophk | "Dropbear can compile to a 110kB statically linked" | Oct 17 11:41 |
| Sosumi | and if I mention it I easily get confronted with the typical dr. Goebbels kind of response | Oct 17 11:42 |
| Sosumi | remember, if you have nothing to hide you also have nothing to fear | Oct 17 11:48 |
| Sosumi | sheeple :( | Oct 17 11:49 |
| iophk | http://chronicle.com/article/Why-Privacy-Matters-Even-if/127461/ | Oct 17 11:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Couldn't resolve host 'chronicle.com' ( status 0 @ http://chronicle.com/article/Why-Privacy-Matters-Even-if/127461/ ) | Oct 17 11:50 |
| iophk | http://www.infoworld.com/t/networking/your-next-network-operating-system-linux-228846 | Oct 17 12:02 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.infoworld.com | Your next network operating system is Linux | Networking - InfoWorld [ http://ur1.ca/fwlvz ] | Oct 17 12:02 |
| iophk | http://www.nanaimodailynews.com/business/former-nokia-ceo-ollila-concedes-mistakes-after-piloting-finnish-company-to-global-stature-1.662482 | Oct 17 12:52 |
| iophk | no comment there about the sell out to M$ | Oct 17 12:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.nanaimodailynews.com | Former Nokia CEO Ollila concedes mistakes after piloting Finnish company to global stature - Business - Nanaimo Daily News [ http://ur1.ca/fwm03 ] | Oct 17 12:52 |
| iophk | a bit of revisionism about Elop, claiming that he wasn't the trojan horse that he turned out to be | Oct 17 12:53 |
| iophk | The summary misleads a little about the purchase which does not include the purchase of patents, only the lease of them | Oct 17 12:54 |
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| Sosumi | http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/10/bittorrent-site-isohunt-will-shut-down-pay-mpaa-110-million/ | Oct 17 14:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | arstechnica.com | BitTorrent site IsoHunt will shut down, pay MPAA $110 million | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/fwmdg ] | Oct 17 14:43 |
| Sosumi | :( | Oct 17 14:43 |
| MinceR | :( | Oct 17 14:43 |
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| sebsebseb | hi ThistleWeb | Oct 17 16:52 |
| ThistleWeb | o/ | Oct 17 16:53 |
| sebsebseb | I am planning on doing a talk | Oct 17 16:54 |
| sebsebseb | at OGG Camp this weekend :) | Oct 17 16:54 |
| sebsebseb | ,but still need to make some slides in that case | Oct 17 16:54 |
| sebsebseb | I am thinking show them Mageia 2 with the control centre, on the other hand it's end of life in abut a month, but that first, then got a intresetingfeature to show in the development version that looks like three as well since new artwork not implemented yet | Oct 17 16:55 |
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| MinceR | gn | Oct 17 17:27 |
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| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/390956393605656576 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/390956531501789184 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/390957245510721536 | Oct 17 17:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Ars Technica has its #Microsoft marketer Peter Bright paste an advert for #vista8 Rev 2 http://t.co/VlZ4sYNlEV | Oct 17 17:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> arstechnica.com | Windows 8.1: What a difference a year makes | Ars Technica | Oct 17 17:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Researchers challenge Apple's claim of 'unbreakable' iMessage encryption http://t.co/lqcsmn2zAP if it's Apple, it's insecure | Oct 17 17:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.macworld.com | Researchers challenge Apple's claim of unbreakable iMessage encryption | Macworld | Oct 17 17:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Your next network operating system is Linux http://t.co/Fu3TvDqczt #linux | Oct 17 17:49 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3182109 | Oct 17 17:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Auditing #truecrypt would be like auditing #diebold machines. Can't if you don't see the source and control the build http://arstechnica.com/security/2013/10/new-effort-to-fully-audit-truecrypt-raises-over-16000-in-a-few-short-weeks/ | Oct 17 17:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> arstechnica.com | New effort to fully audit TrueCrypt raises $16,000+ in a few short weeks | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/fwn20 ] | Oct 17 17:50 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "Indeed. No such thing as an audit unless the binaries audited are the source audited, and audited publicly." | Oct 17 17:50 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3182171 | Oct 17 17:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Cryptographer Adi Shamir Prevented from Attending NSA History Conference | Oct 17 17:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> blogs.fas.org | Cryptographer Adi Shamir Prevented from Attending NSA History Conference - Secrecy News [ http://ur1.ca/fwn22 ] | Oct 17 17:51 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "I could see video conferencing very beneficial in these kinds of situations." | Oct 17 17:51 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "^ that is what I was thinking to myself the other day about free software in general how can you know if the compiled program actually is the same as the source (unless you compile it yourself ofc)" | Oct 17 17:51 |
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| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer | Oct 17 20:02 |
| DaemonFC | about a minute ago Edited | Oct 17 20:02 |
| DaemonFC | I told the guy at Pearson's about how hard it is to find a vehicle on Craiglist that isn't crap. I told him that one listing which really stuck in my mind was the one where a guy with a 2004 Cadillac with 175,000 miles on it wanted $8,000. So I e-mailed him and asked him why he wanted $8,000. He replied something to the effect of "The chameleon green metallic paint job cost me $6,000 and then there' | Oct 17 20:02 |
| DaemonFC | s the chrome hood ornament of a naked woman.". | Oct 17 20:02 |
| DaemonFC | Gee, isn't that something all of us would be proud to own? | Oct 17 20:02 |
| DaemonFC | Even if the paint job is good and the color isn't revolting (chameleon green?), you should never expect that it will make the resale value of the car equal to FMV + the entire cost of the paint job ($6,000? You can do showroom quality for about $3,500.). At most, you're looking at a $500-$800 addition to the FMV of the car. You should never do restoration work assuming that you'll come out ahead whe | Oct 17 20:02 |
| DaemonFC | n you go to sell it (at least until it's old enough to be considered a classic). You should do it because you like your car, and you want to be proud of what you have. | Oct 17 20:02 |
| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer shared a link. | Oct 17 20:22 |
| DaemonFC | a few seconds ago | Oct 17 20:22 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.google.com/patents/US8254902 | Oct 17 20:22 |
| DaemonFC | Apple patents a way for the police to turn off your cell phone camera while they beat you and your friends. | Oct 17 20:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.google.com | Patent US8254902 - Apparatus and methods for enforcement of policies upon a wireless device - Google Patents | Oct 17 20:22 |
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| lirodon | Microsoft is using petty tactics to keep users in its secure boot trap | Oct 17 23:38 |
| lirodon | by branding the screens of people who dare disable secure boot on 8.1 http://t.co/X1upAPnc5V | Oct 17 23:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Nickedynick: Upgrade to Windows 8.1 today, and get a free (albeit hugely obnoxious) watermark on your desktop! http://t.co/X1upAPnc5V | Oct 17 23:40 |
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| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3183647 | Oct 18 03:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Empire Under Obama: Barack Obama's Global Terror Campaign http://truth-out.org/news/item/19466-empire-under-obama-barack-obamas-global-terror-campaign a war on terror can be terror sometimes | Oct 18 03:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> truth-out.org | Empire Under Obama: Barack Obama's Global Terror Campaign [ http://ur1.ca/fwomi ] | Oct 18 03:19 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | http://diydrones.com/profiles/blogs/happy-droneoween | Oct 18 03:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | diydrones.com | Happy Droneoween! - DIY Drones [ http://ur1.ca/fwomj ] | Oct 18 03:19 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3178982 | Oct 18 03:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: NSA Has Spurred Renewed Interest In Thorough Security Audits Of Popular 'Secure' Software http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20131015/10040524884/nsa-has-spurred-renewed-interest-thorough-security-audits-popular-secure-software.shtml #truecrypt | Oct 18 03:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.techdirt.com | NSA Has Spurred Renewed Interest In Thorough Security Audits Of Popular 'Secure' Software | Techdirt [ http://ur1.ca/fwfxb ] | Oct 18 03:19 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "Divides we are helpless, Jesse. Community run distributions binaries are as good as we can get. No one has the time or ability to inspect everything, freedom must be a community effort. This is why software must have all four software freedoms." | Oct 18 03:19 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3182109 | Oct 18 03:19 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "@Paul: You can't. See this short exchange on Bruce Schneider's blog." | Oct 18 03:20 |
| MinceR | Schneier | Oct 18 03:59 |
| MinceR | geekings | Oct 18 04:05 |
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| iophk | https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2013/10/nsa_harvesting.html | Oct 18 06:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.schneier.com | Schneier on Security: NSA Harvesting Contact Lists [ http://ur1.ca/fwp5t ] | Oct 18 06:46 |
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| iophk | http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/18/world/snowden-says-he-took-no-secret-files-to-russia.html | Oct 18 08:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | myaccount.nytimes.com | Log In - The New York Times [ http://ur1.ca/fwpj4 ] | Oct 18 08:59 |
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| XFaCE | schestowitz: pharma patent extension in Canada as part of CETA: http://www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/6975/125/ | Oct 18 11:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.michaelgeist.ca | Michael Geist - CETA Reached "In Principle", Part Four: Pharma Gets Patent Extension Despite Declining R&D in Canada [ http://ur1.ca/fwpwu ] | Oct 18 11:06 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | thans | Oct 18 11:06 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | tahnks | Oct 18 11:06 |
| XFaCE | np | Oct 18 11:07 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz_bed2: other articles on the agreement: http://www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/6972/125/ http://www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/6973/125/ http://www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/6974/125/ | Oct 18 11:07 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.michaelgeist.ca | Michael Geist - Canada - EU Trade Agreement Reached "In Principle", Part One: Now Release the Text [ http://ur1.ca/fwpwx ] | Oct 18 11:07 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.michaelgeist.ca | Michael Geist - Canada - EU Trade Agreement Reached "In Principle", Part Two: The Intellectual Property Provisions [ http://ur1.ca/fwpwy ] | Oct 18 11:07 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.michaelgeist.ca | Michael Geist - CETA Reached "In Principle", Part Three: Meaningless Claims on Telecom & E-commerce [ http://ur1.ca/fwpwz ] | Oct 18 11:07 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz_bed2: and wouldn't you know, this was another opaque process | Oct 18 11:08 |
| Sosumi | http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-10-17/janet-yellen-exposed-truth-behind-myth-0 | Oct 18 11:08 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.zerohedge.com | Janet Yellen Exposed - The Truth Behind The Myth | Zero Hedge [ http://ur1.ca/fwpx5 ] | Oct 18 11:08 |
| Sosumi | she's Bilbo Bagins distant cousin | Oct 18 11:09 |
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| lirodon | so apparently Microsoft is now using a new method to shove secure boot down our throats | Oct 18 11:29 |
| lirodon | anyone who upgrades to Windows 8.1 gets shamed by a desktop watermark if they have secure boot capable hardware (heck, some people who can't use it are getting it too) but have it disabled | Oct 18 11:31 |
| MinceR | indeed | Oct 18 11:33 |
| MinceR | a colleague got it too | Oct 18 11:33 |
| lirodon | yeah, its not configured properly. They don't want you to run anything else | Oct 18 11:34 |
| XFaCE | http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dn441535.aspx | Oct 18 11:38 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | technet.microsoft.com | "Secure Boot isn't configured correctly" watermark on the desktop [ http://ur1.ca/fwq0i ] | Oct 18 11:38 |
| XFaCE | no way to turn it off officially either | Oct 18 11:38 |
| XFaCE | not surprised | Oct 18 11:38 |
| MinceR | oh, i know a way | Oct 18 11:41 |
| MinceR | http://crunchbang.org/ | Oct 18 11:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | crunchbang.org | CrunchBang - a nimble Openbox Linux Distro | Oct 18 11:41 |
| MinceR | ;) | Oct 18 11:41 |
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| Sosumi | M$ lol | Oct 18 11:49 |
| MinceR | http://blogs.hbr.org/2013/10/how-dilbert-practically-wrote-itself/ | Oct 18 11:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | blogs.hbr.org | How "Dilbert" Practically Wrote Itself - Meghan Ennes - Harvard Business Review [ http://ur1.ca/fwq22 ] | Oct 18 11:52 |
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| lirodon | XFaCE: they're treating it like a "problem" to shamelessly tell people to turn it back on | Oct 18 12:01 |
| XFaCE | lirodon: looks like a new build may fix this "bug" | Oct 18 12:01 |
| lirodon | XFaCE: I heard the GA Rollup was supposed to fix it | Oct 18 12:01 |
| lirodon | Personally, if I wanted to treat that as a problem, I'd put it as an Action Center notification | Oct 18 12:02 |
| lirodon | i.e. "Your computer supports UEFI secure boot, but it is not enabled. Enable it in your UEFI firmware settings to improve system security // Turn off messages about secure boot" | Oct 18 12:02 |
| MinceR | it's a problem for them | Oct 18 12:04 |
| MinceR | your pc isn't locked into their crap | Oct 18 12:04 |
| lirodon | 8.1 also tries to force you into using a Microsoft Account sign-in by using disturbing dark patterns | Oct 18 13:14 |
| lirodon | and sends all search data to Bing regardless of type | Oct 18 13:14 |
| Sosumi | all of them? | Oct 18 13:27 |
| Sosumi | not even crApple does that with Spotlight | Oct 18 13:28 |
| lirodon | http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9241524/Steven_J._Vaughan_Nichols_Microsoft_Bing_bang_bungles_local_search?ref=1 | Oct 18 14:08 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.computerworld.com | Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols: Microsoft Bing-bang-bungles local search - Computerworld [ http://ur1.ca/fwqd9 ] | Oct 18 14:08 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3183656 | Oct 18 14:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Ars Technica has its #Microsoft marketer Peter Bright paste an advert for #vista8 Rev 2 http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/10/windows-8-1-what-a-difference-a-year-makes/ | Oct 18 14:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> arstechnica.com | Windows 8.1: What a difference a year makes | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/fwljn ] | Oct 18 14:59 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "Microsoft hates everyone." | Oct 18 14:59 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "Lol yes .... M$ only love $ ^^ Well there is a stupid but funny translation (as a joke) of "Windows from Microsoft by Bill Gates" in french : "Fentres de Minidou(x) par Guillaume Portail" And Minidou (without 'x') in France is minidou washing liquid" | Oct 18 14:59 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "They hate themselves too. Everyone is a pawn to Bill Gates. One of the co founders left when he overheard Gates and another founder conspiring to rob his family if he died." | Oct 18 15:00 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3185564 | Oct 18 15:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: When Progress is Outlawed | Oct 18 15:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techrights.org | When Progress is Outlawed | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/fwqji ] | Oct 18 15:05 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "I think things are so shrill because the usual method of control by jailing and economically ruining people has run into a fundamental limit. Information is spreading faster than the rich and powerful can eliminate people. There's some hope in that." | Oct 18 15:05 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3184734 | Oct 18 15:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: SparkFun Ponders Women in STEM Fields http://hackaday.com/2013/10/17/sparkfun-ponders-women-in-stem-fields/ anomaly not found much in the East | Oct 18 15:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> hackaday.com | SparkFun Ponders Women in STEM Fields [ http://ur1.ca/fwqjk ] | Oct 18 15:06 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "There was an interesting interview on NPR the other day about the dismal overall job market in the US. There are about 400,000 STEM graduates each year for about 200,000 new jobs. A country that has offshored most of it's manufacturing hasThere was an interesting interview on NPR the other day about the dismal overall job market in the US. There are about 400,000 STEM graduates each year for about 200,000 new jobs. A country that | Oct 18 15:06 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | has offshored most of it's manufacturing has little need for scientists and engineers. I wonder how many of the remaining jobs are weapons related." little need for scientists and engineers. I wonder how many of the remaining jobs are weapons related. | Oct 18 15:06 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | " | Oct 18 15:11 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > Hi Roy, | Oct 18 15:11 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > | Oct 18 15:11 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > CMSWire is assembling a discussion point article that tackles the | Oct 18 15:11 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > question: /Will the decision by W3C to include encrypted media | Oct 18 15:11 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > extensions <http://www.w3.org/TR/encrypted-media/> into the HTML5.1 | Oct 18 15:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.w3.org | Encrypted Media Extensions | Oct 18 15:11 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > standard have a positive or negative effect on web experiences?/ | Oct 18 15:11 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > / | Oct 18 15:11 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > / | Oct 18 15:11 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > Below is a previous Discussion Point for reference: | Oct 18 15:11 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > / | Oct 18 15:11 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > / | Oct 18 15:11 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > Discussion Point: Records Management Influenced by Cloud, Collaboration | Oct 18 15:11 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > Technologies | Oct 18 15:11 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > <http://www.cmswire.com/cms/information-management/discussion-point-records-management-influenced-by-cloud-collaboration-technologies-021518.php>/ | Oct 18 15:11 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > / | Oct 18 15:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.cmswire.com | Discussion Point: Records Management Influenced by Cloud, Collaboration Technologies [ http://ur1.ca/fwqky ] | Oct 18 15:11 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > | Oct 18 15:11 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > Would you be interested in providing your thoughts on this question? The | Oct 18 15:11 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > response should be roughly 3-4 paragraphs. We will be including a short | Oct 18 15:11 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > bio and photo in the article. | Oct 18 15:11 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > | Oct 18 15:12 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > Please let me know if you would like to contribute. We'd like to have | Oct 18 15:12 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > responses in by October 22nd. | Oct 18 15:12 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | I would be happy to write a piece if it's guaranteed publication. | Oct 18 15:12 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | " | Oct 18 15:12 |
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| Sosumi | so since M$ is collecting info on everyone for advertising starting vista 8.1 | Oct 18 15:30 |
| Sosumi | that means vista 8.1 is free? | Oct 18 15:30 |
| Sosumi | just like the ObamaPhone | Oct 18 15:30 |
| Sosumi | M$ is like meth, not even once | Oct 18 15:31 |
| MinceR | no, it would be too expensive even if it was gratis | Oct 18 15:32 |
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| Sosumi | so I guess I'll no longer be able to use global search to find the F35 drawings | Oct 18 15:51 |
| Sosumi | or the F22 flight manuals | Oct 18 15:51 |
| Sosumi | no my improvised explovives and gerrilla warfare manuals | Oct 18 15:51 |
| Sosumi | :) | Oct 18 15:51 |
| Sosumi | or I'll get someone knocking at my door | Oct 18 15:52 |
| MinceR | plus it's unlikely to work reliably anyway | Oct 18 15:55 |
| Sosumi | who knows :) | Oct 18 16:03 |
| Sosumi | but for certain, I don't want to test it | Oct 18 16:03 |
| JimmyCarter | some people like word excel and paint | Oct 18 16:04 |
| Sosumi | and IE | Oct 18 16:04 |
| JimmyCarter | mostly just poor indoctrinated old dogs | Oct 18 16:04 |
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| MinceR | some people are idiots | Oct 18 16:09 |
| MinceR | also, even excel got much worse lately | Oct 18 16:09 |
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| Sosumi | you mean this excel? | Oct 18 16:10 |
| Sosumi | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1Hdp3hRLCQ | Oct 18 16:10 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.youtube.com | Excel Saga Complete Opening - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/fwqr5 ] | Oct 18 16:10 |
| Sosumi | I think it's awesome | Oct 18 16:10 |
| MinceR | no, not that excel | Oct 18 16:12 |
| Sosumi | :) | Oct 18 16:12 |
| MinceR | i meant the one that pretends to be a spreadsheet application | Oct 18 16:12 |
| Sosumi | it's much worse than it was before the amount of space the menus take vs the spreadsheet itself | Oct 18 16:14 |
| MinceR | indeed | Oct 18 16:14 |
| Sosumi | *because | Oct 18 16:14 |
| MinceR | the amounts of clicks necessary for an action also increased | Oct 18 16:14 |
| Sosumi | yes | Oct 18 16:14 |
| MinceR | the organization of the ribbon is an illogical mess | Oct 18 16:14 |
| MinceR | the file format kept the problems of the old one and added a slew of new problems | Oct 18 16:14 |
| MinceR | and the whole thing is even slower than it was | Oct 18 16:14 |
| MinceR | (and they know it, since they've added another splash screen) | Oct 18 16:15 |
| Sosumi | all that because of m$ wanting to make something touch/stylus friendly | Oct 18 16:15 |
| MinceR | nope | Oct 18 16:15 |
| MinceR | all that because m$ wants to get people used to a ui they own patents on | Oct 18 16:15 |
| MinceR | (even though they didn't even invent it in the first place) | Oct 18 16:15 |
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| Sosumi | well that I didn't know | Oct 18 16:15 |
| Sosumi | but from my perspectibe ribbon only seems to work well on a tablet like surface | Oct 18 16:16 |
| Sosumi | on the desktop it's plain bad | Oct 18 16:16 |
| Sosumi | and even mathworks moved to it | Oct 18 16:16 |
| Sosumi | shamefully | Oct 18 16:16 |
| MinceR | i don't see how it could work well | Oct 18 16:16 |
| MinceR | you still click on a top level menu item-sized (and shaped) item and then a button | Oct 18 16:17 |
| MinceR | and the buttons vary wildly in size and shape | Oct 18 16:17 |
| MinceR | and some buttons pop up a menu | Oct 18 16:17 |
| Sosumi | I just said that from the pictures I saw from the thing | Oct 18 16:17 |
| MinceR | ic | Oct 18 16:17 |
| Sosumi | never used it nor I intend to | Oct 18 16:17 |
| MinceR | and they _know_ it sucks, as they've tried to compensate for it with an idiotic context-sensitive popup toolbar | Oct 18 16:18 |
| MinceR | (which mainly just manages to get in the way and fade in and out randomly) | Oct 18 16:18 |
| Sosumi | it hides? | Oct 18 16:18 |
| MinceR | sometimes it does | Oct 18 16:18 |
| Sosumi | lulz | Oct 18 16:19 |
| MinceR | i think it depends on where the pointer is | Oct 18 16:19 |
| MinceR | (which of course wouldn't work on a tablet) | Oct 18 16:19 |
| Sosumi | what is shamefull is that now you can't even expect privacy on what you do inside your machine | Oct 18 16:22 |
| Sosumi | ubuntu started, now M$ is doing | Oct 18 16:23 |
| Sosumi | it too | Oct 18 16:25 |
| Sosumi | google also does it on android | Oct 18 16:25 |
| MinceR | how? | Oct 18 16:25 |
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| Sosumi | article said searches on android are sent to google | Oct 18 16:26 |
| MinceR | using the search widget? | Oct 18 16:27 |
| Sosumi | think sop | Oct 18 16:32 |
| Sosumi | also, doesn't all website data get sent to google if you use chrome? | Oct 18 16:34 |
| MinceR | i don't know | Oct 18 16:36 |
| MinceR | i don't use chrome | Oct 18 16:36 |
| Sosumi | that was from what I read | Oct 18 16:37 |
| Sosumi | and ye I don't use chrome either | Oct 18 16:37 |
| Sosumi | but it only makes sense for google to do so since they're basically an advertising company | Oct 18 16:48 |
| Sosumi | *that | Oct 18 16:49 |
| Sosumi | "I'm not saying that this type of functionality is unprecedented. Google has long incorporated that kind of capability in Android and Google Instant search." | Oct 18 16:49 |
| Sosumi | that's quoting the article | Oct 18 16:50 |
| Sosumi | http://android.stackexchange.com/questions/43361/what-information-does-stock-android-send-to-google-by-default-and-how-do-i-opt | Oct 18 16:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | android.stackexchange.com | privacy - What information does stock Android send to Google by default, and how do I opt-out? - Android Enthusiasts Stack Exchange [ http://ur1.ca/fwqu1 ] | Oct 18 16:50 |
| MinceR | ic | Oct 18 16:50 |
| Sosumi | android is no better than the others | Oct 18 16:52 |
| Sosumi | in the end it's like comparing poop | Oct 18 16:52 |
| Sosumi | saying that this one smells less bad than the other | Oct 18 16:52 |
| MinceR | only from a privacy standpoint | Oct 18 16:52 |
| Sosumi | yep, but privacy is important | Oct 18 16:53 |
| MinceR | indeed | Oct 18 16:53 |
| MinceR | but that doesn't make a choice of mobile os meaningless | Oct 18 16:54 |
| Sosumi | you don't want all your private life to be open to whomever wants to buy it nor open for the intelligence agencies to profile you | Oct 18 16:54 |
| Sosumi | nop, because android you can actually strip down the entire thing | Oct 18 16:55 |
| Sosumi | on the others you can't | Oct 18 16:55 |
| Sosumi | and on the case of the android forks for example | Oct 18 16:58 |
| Sosumi | you don't know what aditional code samsung or any other company put in there | Oct 18 16:58 |
| Sosumi | that is why I say, for getting a phone | Oct 18 16:59 |
| Sosumi | better get a nexus | Oct 18 16:59 |
| Sosumi | because the thing comes with the bootloader unlocked | Oct 18 16:59 |
| Sosumi | so you don't lose the warranty in case things go bad | Oct 18 16:59 |
| MinceR | my problem with nexii is that they don't have a memory card slot | Oct 18 16:59 |
| MinceR | so if the phone breaks, all my data on it becomes inaccessible | Oct 18 16:59 |
| Sosumi | yeah, it's bad | Oct 18 16:59 |
| MinceR | otherwise i could just take the card out and keep using it | Oct 18 16:59 |
| Sosumi | I have the issue | Oct 18 17:00 |
| Sosumi | *same | Oct 18 17:00 |
| MinceR | i guess daily backup to one's own storage device (not someone else's cloud) is the next best thing | Oct 18 17:00 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2013/10/toyota-is-recalling-more-than-800-000-cars-because-of-spiders/280694/ | Oct 18 17:00 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.theatlantic.com | Toyota Is Recalling More Than 800,000 Cars Because of Spiders - Megan Garber - The Atlantic [ http://ur1.ca/fwquo ] | Oct 18 17:00 |
| DaemonFC | Spiders are causing the airbags to deploy. | Oct 18 17:01 |
| MinceR | :D | Oct 18 17:01 |
| MinceR | invasion of the airbag-deploying spiders | Oct 18 17:02 |
| Sosumi | hilarious | Oct 18 17:02 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, They also turn on the warning lights. | Oct 18 17:06 |
| DaemonFC | Unfortunately, Toyota didn't equip their vehicles with a spider warning light. | Oct 18 17:06 |
| MinceR | neither did anyone else | Oct 18 17:06 |
| DaemonFC | Spiders don't deploy the airbags in a Ford. | Oct 18 17:06 |
| MinceR | it wouldn't do anything anyway, as it's Found On Road Dead :> | Oct 18 17:07 |
| Sosumi | lol | Oct 18 17:07 |
| Sosumi | but you see TOYota is toy car manufaturer | Oct 18 17:08 |
| Sosumi | *a | Oct 18 17:08 |
| Sosumi | I haven't seen any european car commpanies doing racals for things like that | Oct 18 17:08 |
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| MinceR | and here i was worrying about spiders climbing into the vents and fans of my laptops | Oct 18 17:11 |
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| Sosumi | not that many spiders here, but, laptop fans tend to clog quickly | Oct 18 17:15 |
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| DaemonFC | Yeah, I had a guy in a Honda jump out in front of me earlier. | Oct 18 17:37 |
| DaemonFC | A real car does not make a buzzing noise like that. | Oct 18 17:37 |
| DaemonFC | Those things are annoying. You just want to drive right over them. | Oct 18 17:38 |
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| MinceR | what buzzing noise? electric motor? | Oct 18 17:41 |
| DaemonFC | No | Oct 18 17:41 |
| DaemonFC | He had a mid-90s Honda | Oct 18 17:41 |
| DaemonFC | an Accord I think | Oct 18 17:42 |
| MinceR | then the sound of a gas-non-guzzling engine? | Oct 18 17:44 |
| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer shared a link. | Oct 18 17:59 |
| DaemonFC | 14 seconds ago | Oct 18 17:59 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/human_genome/2013/10/analyze_your_child_s_dna_which_grandparents_are_most_genetically_related.html | Oct 18 17:59 |
| DaemonFC | Well, I haven't thrown a cheeseburger and a diet Coke at anyone lately, so it must not be my maternal grandmother. :) | Oct 18 17:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.slate.com | Analyze your childs DNA: Which grandparents are most genetically related? [ http://ur1.ca/fwr05 ] | Oct 18 17:59 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, My engine is pretty quiet really. | Oct 18 17:59 |
| DaemonFC | When I'm stopped, you can't even tell the engine is running. | Oct 18 17:59 |
| DaemonFC | Honda's are really not as reliable as people like to claim they are. | Oct 18 18:00 |
| DaemonFC | Like any other car, some are well-built, and some come from the factory as junk that keeps breaking down. | Oct 18 18:00 |
| DaemonFC | Some have owners that invest in maintaining them, some have owners that don't even change the oil. | Oct 18 18:00 |
| DaemonFC | This myth that they're all reliable and well built has the resale value all jacked up, even for ones that are in a horrible state of disrepair. | Oct 18 18:01 |
| MinceR | uh huh | Oct 18 18:01 |
| DaemonFC | The first thing I did when I got my crown vic was take it to the shop and have them change all the fluids and filters, and swap out the spark plugs and wires. | Oct 18 18:02 |
| DaemonFC | Put a little money in maintaining it, and it will save you from major repair work later. | Oct 18 18:02 |
| DaemonFC | My aunt (the one that died in August) had a Honda Prelude that she had all kinds of problems with. | Oct 18 18:03 |
| DaemonFC | The transmission even went out and had to be rebuilt. | Oct 18 18:03 |
| DaemonFC | The car only had 60,000 miles on it when that happened. | Oct 18 18:03 |
| DaemonFC | She sold it to my uncle. He put thousands of dollars into trying to fix it up into some kind of decent reliable car. | Oct 18 18:04 |
| DaemonFC | He eventually gave up and it started a huge fight between them before she eventually bought it back so there's be peace again. | Oct 18 18:04 |
| DaemonFC | and it's been sitting out beside my grandmother's house rotting away for about the last 10 years. | Oct 18 18:04 |
| DaemonFC | Right now he's driving a Buick Century that my grandmother gave him. | Oct 18 18:05 |
| DaemonFC | I know it had over 200,000 miles on it the last time he was up here. | Oct 18 18:05 |
| DaemonFC | Honda has their fair share of lemons. | Oct 18 18:05 |
| DaemonFC | And anyone that says they don't is putting forth anecdotal evidence. | Oct 18 18:06 |
| DaemonFC | When you look at Edmunds.com or other sites that tell you what tends to go wrong with a certain make/model/year of vehicle, you see that Hondas have expensive problems and fixing them is almost always going to cost you more than the same part on a Ford. | Oct 18 18:07 |
| DaemonFC | My neighbor has a Toyota Camry. She had a side impact in Walmart's parking lot the other day. | Oct 18 18:08 |
| DaemonFC | a 10 mile an hour hit left a dent the size of a grapefruit. | Oct 18 18:09 |
| MinceR | shouldn't be a surprise that fixing a more expensive car is more expensive | Oct 18 18:12 |
| MinceR | and yes, camrys aren't APCs :> | Oct 18 18:13 |
| MinceR | also, was that dent in the passenger cell? | Oct 18 18:13 |
| DaemonFC | The rear of the driver side quarter panel. | Oct 18 18:14 |
| DaemonFC | Looks terrible. | Oct 18 18:14 |
| MinceR | what's a quarter panel? | Oct 18 18:15 |
| DaemonFC | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quarter_panel | Oct 18 18:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | en.wikipedia.org | Quarter panel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/fwr2g ] | Oct 18 18:15 |
| MinceR | ic | Oct 18 18:16 |
| MinceR | no surprise, then | Oct 18 18:16 |
| DaemonFC | Mine has some dings and scratches, but it's not all that bad. | Oct 18 18:16 |
| MinceR | in modern cars, everything outside the passenger cell is supposed to deform and expend the energy of the collisions | Oct 18 18:16 |
| DaemonFC | Next year, I'm going to have them pull and fill the dents and repaint the entire car. | Oct 18 18:16 |
| MinceR | so that the passengers aren't crushed or flung against the car | Oct 18 18:16 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, well, I think my car is alot safer than her's. | Oct 18 18:17 |
| DaemonFC | Just because it's a big solid car. | Oct 18 18:17 |
| MinceR | sure, but just because the car stays intact doesn't mean you will too :> | Oct 18 18:17 |
| DaemonFC | Those little economy cars might get a five star rating, but that's a five star rating for their "class". | Oct 18 18:17 |
| MinceR | or more accurately, just because certain parts of the car stay intact doesn't mean you will too | Oct 18 18:17 |
| DaemonFC | It doesn't mean you'll be as safe as you would be in a larger car. | Oct 18 18:17 |
| MinceR | yeah, large cars still have an advantage | Oct 18 18:18 |
| MinceR | i don't know how exactly this combines with issues in absorbing energy, though | Oct 18 18:18 |
| MinceR | or, say, if the drive wheel shaft stays intact and skewers the driver :> | Oct 18 18:18 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.edmunds.com/honda/accord/1998/reliability.html?style=14475 | Oct 18 18:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.edmunds.com | 1998 Honda Accord DX 2.3L 4-cyl. 5-speed Manual Reliability [ http://ur1.ca/fwr3f ] | Oct 18 18:19 |
| DaemonFC | An occasional problem on this vehicle is failure of the Automatic Transmission. | Oct 18 18:19 |
| DaemonFC | The cost to repair the Automatic Transmission is estimated at $3000.00 for a remanufactured Automatic Transmission and $429.00 for labor. | Oct 18 18:19 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Oct 18 18:19 |
| DaemonFC | In other words, if the transmission goes out, you should junk it and look for another car. | Oct 18 18:20 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.edmunds.com/honda/accord/1999/reliability.html?style=11976 | Oct 18 18:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.edmunds.com | 1999 Honda Accord DX 2.3L 4-cyl. 5-speed Manual Reliability [ http://ur1.ca/fwr3t ] | Oct 18 18:21 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.edmunds.com/honda/accord/2000/reliability.html?style=2321 | Oct 18 18:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.edmunds.com | 2000 Honda Accord DX 2.3L 4-cyl. 5-speed Manual Reliability [ http://ur1.ca/fwr3y ] | Oct 18 18:21 |
| DaemonFC | So they're a ticking timebomb. | Oct 18 18:21 |
| DaemonFC | You can get a pretty good idea of what shape the transmission is in by looking at the color of the automatic transmission fluid, and smelling it. | Oct 18 18:22 |
| DaemonFC | If it is brown or black or smells burned, you don't want the car. | Oct 18 18:22 |
| DaemonFC | and of course, you're going to want to get it up to highway speeds and make sure it doesn't have any problem shifting through each gear. | Oct 18 18:23 |
| DaemonFC | Alot of Pontiacs seem to develop a problem with shifting between second and third gear. | Oct 18 18:23 |
| DaemonFC | I experienced that on several of their vans that I drove. | Oct 18 18:23 |
| DaemonFC | According to Autowyse, if my car needed a transmission rebuild, I'd be looking at $900-$1,500, depending on what parts I wanted and where the work was done. | Oct 18 18:25 |
| DaemonFC | I'd bet that Daniels could bring it in at around $1,000. | Oct 18 18:25 |
| DaemonFC | If I was starting out with a brand new car, I'd just get the transmission drained and filled like Ford says to do every 30,000 miles. | Oct 18 18:27 |
| DaemonFC | Alot of people don't do that, so you have to get it power flushed and have the pan gasket and filter changed as soon as you buy it, to catch up. | Oct 18 18:27 |
| DaemonFC | I use NAPA ATF fluid. It's just rebranded Valvoline. | Oct 18 18:28 |
| DaemonFC | NAPA has decent parts. I wouldn't go to Auto Zone for anything other than maybe windshield wipers or something. | Oct 18 18:28 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, What's funny is that alot of these people go to Jiffy Lube and tell them to flush the transmission. | Oct 18 18:29 |
| DaemonFC | and that's not the same as going to a dealer or most independent garages | Oct 18 18:30 |
| DaemonFC | Jiffy Lube hooks up a machine to the transmission's cooler line and flushes it through that. | Oct 18 18:30 |
| DaemonFC | They don't drop and clean the pan, or replace the pan gasket and filter. | Oct 18 18:30 |
| DaemonFC | So it's not uncommon for the transmission to fail soon after you have them do that. | Oct 18 18:31 |
| DaemonFC | It will loosen up some "gunk" in the system, that proceeds to clog the filter, and then the transmission fails because the fluid can't circulate. | Oct 18 18:31 |
| DaemonFC | I trust Jiffy Lube with my car even less than I'd trust Walmart with my car. | Oct 18 18:32 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 18 18:32 |
| DaemonFC | If anything, Walmart has gotten so afraid of lawsuits, that they're really careful about what they let their bay technicians do now. | Oct 18 18:32 |
| DaemonFC | It's pretty much just oil, batteries, and tires now. | Oct 18 18:32 |
| DaemonFC | They used to do more. | Oct 18 18:32 |
| MinceR | i've never trusted either of those | Oct 18 18:32 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Next time I need tires, I'm going to Daniels. | Oct 18 18:33 |
| MinceR | with my car, that is | Oct 18 18:33 |
| DaemonFC | They are about $10 more per tire, but they have $50-$75 rebates all the time. | Oct 18 18:33 |
| DaemonFC | and they throw in a free four wheel alignment | Oct 18 18:33 |
| DaemonFC | Those usually cost $60-80 by themselves, depending on where you go. | Oct 18 18:33 |
| DaemonFC | Lots of undercover news channel investigations at Jiffy Lube revealed that they don't even do the transmission flush or change your oil filter most of the time. | Oct 18 18:35 |
| DaemonFC | They just bill you for it. | Oct 18 18:35 |
| DaemonFC | It's pretty easy to figure out whether they changed the oil filter. | Oct 18 18:35 |
| DaemonFC | Take a sharpie marker and draw a line all the way around the old filter. | Oct 18 18:35 |
| DaemonFC | IF the line is still on it when you come back, they didn't change it. | Oct 18 18:36 |
| DaemonFC | There was one Jiffy Lube I used to go to alot, but it was just because there was this big glass window that let you look out into the service bay. | Oct 18 18:37 |
| DaemonFC | So I could watch them drain the oil, change the filter, and pour the correct amount of oil in. | Oct 18 18:37 |
| DaemonFC | Most of them aren't like that though. The one down in Marion is. | Oct 18 18:37 |
| DaemonFC | When I lived in Muncie, I always took the car to Big-O Tires, because they always had a coupon for $14.99 oil changes. | Oct 18 18:38 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Oct 18 18:38 |
| DaemonFC | but that was a long time ago. | Oct 18 18:38 |
| DaemonFC | You never see them cheaper than $23 now. | Oct 18 18:38 |
| DaemonFC | Those shops don't make much money off of oil changes. The purpose of the cheap oil change is to get you in there so they can do a once over on your car and recommend other repairs. | Oct 18 18:39 |
| DaemonFC | You really can go there and get the oil change and just ignore them though. :) | Oct 18 18:39 |
| DaemonFC | With batteries, I go by age, not what the meter says. | Oct 18 18:41 |
| DaemonFC | I've made that mistake before. The meter says it's good and then two weeks later, the car doesn't start. | Oct 18 18:41 |
| DaemonFC | If the guarantee is 3 years, change it after 3 years. | Oct 18 18:41 |
| DaemonFC | But the 5 year ones aren't much more expensive, so I get those. | Oct 18 18:42 |
| DaemonFC | hmmm, that's nice... | Oct 18 18:52 |
| DaemonFC | Amazon had the air filter I wanted for $5.77 with a $2 MIR. | Oct 18 18:53 |
| DaemonFC | Auto Zone had it for $7.99. | Oct 18 18:53 |
| *DaemonFC is a smart consumer that saved $2. | Oct 18 18:53 | |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Oct 18 18:53 |
| DaemonFC | http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2149799 | Oct 18 19:02 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | forums.anandtech.com | Air Filter Brand Make a Difference?? - AnandTech Forums [ http://ur1.ca/fwrbw ] | Oct 18 19:02 |
| DaemonFC | Yes it does actually. | Oct 18 19:02 |
| DaemonFC | AC DELCO and FRAM are both fine, but some people spend lots of money for a "permanent washable" K&N filter that lets all kinds of shit into the engine. | Oct 18 19:02 |
| DaemonFC | and the "oiling" they require for the cleaning procedure tends to get into the MAF sensor, and that's going to cost $150. | Oct 18 19:02 |
| DaemonFC | So if you want to save money and your engine, you use the pleated paper filters and just check to see if they're dirty about once a year. | Oct 18 19:04 |
| DaemonFC | If it is, throw it away and buy a new one. | Oct 18 19:04 |
| DaemonFC | I saw someone with an old beat up Honda with a lot of rust on it, that had spent over $100 putting a K&N cold air intake on their car. | Oct 18 19:05 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 18 19:05 |
| DaemonFC | Craigslist, naturally. | Oct 18 19:05 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.f150online.com/forums/v8-engines/293233-why-motorcraft-air-filters-so-expensive.html | Oct 18 19:09 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.f150online.com | Why are MotorCraft Air Filters So Expensive? - F150online Forums [ http://ur1.ca/fwrcw ] | Oct 18 19:09 |
| DaemonFC | "any part you get at a dealer is way overpriced" | Oct 18 19:09 |
| DaemonFC | not always, just usually. | Oct 18 19:09 |
| DaemonFC | Auto Zone had aftermarket keychain remotes that would work with my car for $49.99, but the Ford dealer had the OEM part for $56. | Oct 18 19:10 |
| DaemonFC | $40 for a replacement air filter from a dealer is a bit much :) | Oct 18 19:10 |
| DaemonFC | I've never used Motorcraft brand anything. | Oct 18 19:12 |
| DaemonFC | Ford recommends it, but it's not like you have to use it. | Oct 18 19:12 |
| DaemonFC | Of course they recommend it, it's their brand. :) | Oct 18 19:12 |
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| DaemonFC | I do use FRAM air filters, but not oil or fuel filters. | Oct 18 19:15 |
| DaemonFC | I use NAPA oil and fuel filters, because that's where Daniels Automotive gets their parts. | Oct 18 19:15 |
| DaemonFC | FRAM oil filters are not well made. | Oct 18 19:15 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRRgw4B7R-I | Oct 18 19:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.youtube.com | ( WARNING ) For You Fram Oil Filter Lover's.YouTube - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/fwrdw ] | Oct 18 19:16 |
| DaemonFC | They're what Walmart uses. | Oct 18 19:17 |
| DaemonFC | Walmart is just the wrong place to take your car to. | Oct 18 19:18 |
| DaemonFC | I keep telling Dave that. | Oct 18 19:18 |
| DaemonFC | He asked me to take his '89 Buick Park Avenue to Walmart to get them to patch a tire for him. | Oct 18 19:18 |
| DaemonFC | They called me back to the TLE five minutes later because they couldn't figure out how to get the hubcaps off. | Oct 18 19:18 |
| DaemonFC | I ended up going to Daniels and asking them to patch it. They didn't even charge me anything. They said that I've been such a good customer, that I didn't even need to worry about it. | Oct 18 19:19 |
| DaemonFC | Now that's service. | Oct 18 19:19 |
| DaemonFC | Taking your car to the dealer for anything that's not covered under the warranty or a recall is just stupid. | Oct 18 19:20 |
| DaemonFC | but don't take it to Walmart either. | Oct 18 19:20 |
| DaemonFC | Find a local independent that you can trust. | Oct 18 19:20 |
| DaemonFC | FRAM oil filters are OK if you like lubricating your engine with metal shavings. | Oct 18 19:24 |
| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer shared a link. | Oct 18 19:26 |
| DaemonFC | 3 hours ago | Oct 18 19:26 |
| DaemonFC | Vista 8.1 punishes users for turning off Restricted Boot. | Oct 18 19:26 |
| DaemonFC | http://forums.mydigitallife.info/threads/47485-quot-Secureboot-isn-t-configured-correctly-quot-Watermark-Windows-8-1-Core-activated | Oct 18 19:26 |
| DaemonFC | "Secure" Boot is designed to make sure that the computer can only run Windows. Right now you can turn it off, but in the future, that might not be possible. | Oct 18 19:26 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | forums.mydigitallife.info | "Secureboot isn't configured correctly" Watermark. Windows 8.1 Core activated. [ http://ur1.ca/fwrf3 ] | Oct 18 19:26 |
| DaemonFC | I wouldn't want a PC that can only run Windows. If that happened, I'd quit using a PC. | Oct 18 19:26 |
| MinceR | it wouldn't even be a pc | Oct 18 19:26 |
| MinceR | it would be a windows appliance | Oct 18 19:26 |
| MinceR | or a windows computer | Oct 18 19:27 |
| MinceR | but not a pc | Oct 18 19:27 |
| MinceR | gn | Oct 18 19:27 |
| DaemonFC | yan Farmer shared a link via Slashdot.org. | Oct 18 19:28 |
| DaemonFC | 6 hours ago | Oct 18 19:28 |
| DaemonFC | Did someone say "Body Thetans"? | Oct 18 19:28 |
| DaemonFC | http://yro.slashdot.org/story/13/10/18/031208/scientologys-fraud-conviction-upheld-in-france?utm_source=slashdot&utm_medium=facebook | Oct 18 19:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | yro.slashdot.org | Scientology's Fraud Conviction Upheld In France - Slashdot [ http://ur1.ca/fwrfh ] | Oct 18 19:28 |
| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer | Oct 18 19:38 |
| DaemonFC | Toyota. Moving forward, uncontrollably, with airbag-deploying spiders. Hahahaha! | Oct 18 19:38 |
| DaemonFC | Buy a Ford. | Oct 18 19:38 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnZH26BWtYE&list=TLjTrlTU6pKBN2hlu0988zUllA5VC3OjgY | Oct 18 20:08 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.youtube.com | My 1995 Buick Century few month after maaco paint job - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/fwris ] | Oct 18 20:08 |
| DaemonFC | That actually looks pretty good. | Oct 18 20:08 |
| DaemonFC | I've been thinking about paying MAACO to sand down my car and fill in some dents, then prime, paint, and clearcoat it. | Oct 18 20:09 |
| DaemonFC | Not sure what color I want, but it'll be a while before I have the money anyway. | Oct 18 20:09 |
| DaemonFC | So I have some time to think. | Oct 18 20:09 |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR, I was thinking about having them paint it black. | Oct 18 20:13 |
| DaemonFC | The same color that the undercover police use. | Oct 18 20:13 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-KaVmjGePk | Oct 18 20:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.youtube.com | Undercover 2010 Ford Crown Vic [EVI built] - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/fwrix ] | Oct 18 20:14 |
| DaemonFC | illegal to get the flashers, but not the paint job. | Oct 18 20:14 |
| DaemonFC | might have them tint the windows | Oct 18 20:14 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yt_UML9I4ME | Oct 18 20:20 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.youtube.com | 2006 Ford Crown Victoria Police Interceptor - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/fwrjg ] | Oct 18 20:20 |
| DaemonFC | I want one of those touchscreen systems installed. | Oct 18 20:20 |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR will like that. | Oct 18 20:45 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/10/18/furloughed-government-workers-could-be-paid-twice-in-oregon/ | Oct 18 21:33 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.foxnews.com | Furloughed government workers could be paid twice in Oregon | Fox News [ http://ur1.ca/fwrok ] | Oct 18 21:33 |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.carrentingreviews.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/2013-Ford-Edge-Limited-AWD-Deep-Impact-Blue-Metallic_rear.jpg | Oct 18 21:51 |
| DaemonFC | Deep Impact Blue Metallic. | Oct 18 21:51 |
| DaemonFC | I think I found the color I want them to repaint my Crown Vic. | Oct 18 21:52 |
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| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer shared Daily Kos's photo. | Oct 18 22:09 |
| DaemonFC | 8 seconds ago | Oct 18 22:09 |
| DaemonFC | Good, Good, Good, Good, Excellent, Eww, Good, Eww, Eww, Eww. | Oct 18 22:09 |
| DaemonFC | Don't be "that guy" that passes out candy corns. NOBODY likes candy corns. :) | Oct 18 22:09 |
| DaemonFC | https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/p480x480/1391623_10151921838384255_649165609_n.png | Oct 18 22:09 |
| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer | Oct 18 22:10 |
| DaemonFC | 2 seconds ago | Oct 18 22:11 |
| DaemonFC | "Well they can't all be winners can they?" -Billy Bob Thornton as Bad Santa on candy corns. | Oct 18 22:11 |
| JimmyCarter | i like candy corn | Oct 18 22:12 |
| JimmyCarter | wish i had some | Oct 18 22:12 |
| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer | Oct 18 22:12 |
| DaemonFC | 2 seconds ago | Oct 18 22:12 |
| DaemonFC | You are stranded on a desert island. Your only provisions are candy corns and dog food. | Oct 18 22:12 |
| DaemonFC | $> Eat dog food. | Oct 18 22:12 |
| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer | Oct 18 22:15 |
| DaemonFC | 2 seconds ago | Oct 18 22:15 |
| DaemonFC | $> Go north. | Oct 18 22:15 |
| DaemonFC | You stumble upon a grue. | Oct 18 22:15 |
| DaemonFC | $> Feed candy corns to grue. | Oct 18 22:15 |
| DaemonFC | The grue takes 1000 HP damage and dies. | Oct 18 22:15 |
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| MinceR | buy a ford, then you won't be moving forward, backward, or anywhere | Oct 19 02:26 |
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| iophk | http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1295 | Oct 19 03:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.markshuttleworth.com | Mark Shuttleworth Blog Archive Quantal, raring, saucy | Oct 19 03:11 |
| iophk | "Mir is really important work. When lots of competitors attack a project on purely political grounds..." | Oct 19 03:12 |
| iophk | There are a lot of reasons for and against mir, but dismissing the criticism as political is to dodge them and ultimately make the project worse off than if they had been adressed. | Oct 19 03:14 |
| JimmyCarter | didnt Mir crash already | Oct 19 03:14 |
| JimmyCarter | or completely burnup on reentry | Oct 19 03:14 |
| iophk | https://www.google.com/images?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=mir+reentry&oe=utf-8&hl=en | Oct 19 03:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.google.com | mir reentry - Google Search [ http://ur1.ca/fwsla ] | Oct 19 03:15 |
| iophk | http://mrpogson.com/2013/10/18/more-fud-bites-the-dust/ | Oct 19 03:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | mrpogson.com | More FUD Bites The Dust | Robert Pogson [ http://ur1.ca/fwsln ] | Oct 19 03:19 |
| MinceR | :) | Oct 19 03:20 |
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| iophk | http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2013-10-18/a-federal-it-contractor-makes-the-case-against-open-source-obamacare | Oct 19 04:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.businessweek.com | A Federal IT Contractor Makes the Case Against Open-Source Obamacare - Businessweek [ http://ur1.ca/fwsu9 ] | Oct 19 04:54 |
| iophk | "he questions the relationship between opening the code and improving the quality" | Oct 19 04:54 |
| iophk | free/libre open source is also a development model. | Oct 19 04:55 |
| oiaohm | iophk: open source is a segement of a development model. | Oct 19 05:00 |
| oiaohm | iophk: projects like wine are able to develop at insane rates due to huge test suites. | Oct 19 05:00 |
| oiaohm | iophk: it is a bit hard to audit a program for quality if you don't have access to the source code. | Oct 19 05:02 |
| iophk | I have run into proponents of black box auditing, they claimed with a straight face that it helped security and reliability | Oct 19 05:03 |
| iophk | Closed, proprietary systems have no business in publicly funded projects. | Oct 19 05:03 |
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| Sosumi | mark shuttleworm... | Oct 19 06:44 |
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| iophk | "As the user types a search query in the Dash, the partial query is transmitted to Canonicals servers" | Oct 19 09:01 |
| iophk | http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/10/ubuntu-13-10-review-the-linux-os-of-the-future-remains-a-year-away/ | Oct 19 09:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | arstechnica.com | Ubuntu 13.10 review: The Linux OS of the future remains a year away | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/fwtk8 ] | Oct 19 09:02 |
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| iophk | http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/10/the-top-5-things-weve-learned-about-the-nsa-thanks-to-edward-snowden/ | Oct 19 14:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | arstechnica.com | The top 5 things weve learned about the NSA thanks to Edward Snowden | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/fwul3 ] | Oct 19 14:53 |
| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer via Slashdot.org | Oct 19 15:10 |
| DaemonFC | Openness doesn't need to mean walking around with a "kick me" sign on your back. If Wikipedia had the kind of peer review that the Linux kernel did, this kind of stuff wouldn't ever happen. If anyone tried it, it would be spotted and removed before the next iteration of the page was ever shown to the public. | Oct 19 15:10 |
| DaemonFC | The problem with trying to present a neutral point of view, is that it gives equal footing to crackpots. It's like having a debate about climate change, where you have to give the 1% of scientists that deny it (most of whom are on the oil company payroll) 50% of the airtime, or having a debate about the age of the Earth, where you have to give the people that say it's 5,000 years old (demonstrably f | Oct 19 15:10 |
| DaemonFC | alse) half of the airtime, or having a debate about the shape of the Earth, where you track down the one guy that says it's flat and give him equal footing. | Oct 19 15:10 |
| DaemonFC | Wikipedia and the news should stop trying to be "fair", and spend more time reporting accurately. When you give corporations and silly people half the debate time, you give them more credibility than they really deserve and a chance to influence people who are not knowledgeable about the subject. | Oct 19 15:10 |
| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer via Bill Moyers | Oct 19 15:23 |
| DaemonFC | Nobody is on a government program because they believe in the government. They're on them because the market has failed them. | Oct 19 15:23 |
| DaemonFC | Food stamps are basically the glue that makes minimum wage employers such as Walmart and the fast food industry work. | Oct 19 15:23 |
| DaemonFC | Socialists actually don't like programs like food stamps and medicaid, because we know that they make abusive employers just tolerable enough that people don't want to rock the boat. Without programs like this which just barely patch over the horrible nature of free market capitalism, there would be an uprising the likes of which has not been seen since the 1920s. | Oct 19 15:23 |
| DaemonFC | Also, if the free market works so great, take everyone over 65 off of Social Security and Medicare and watch what happens to them. | Oct 19 15:23 |
| DaemonFC | We have programs like that because people saw what was happening without them, said "Oh my God, that's horrible.", and decided to do something about it. In other words, they saw the cruelty of the free market, and corrected for it. | Oct 19 15:23 |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.huffingtonpost.com/nicholas-carroll/credit-card-maxandwalk-co_b_789793.html | Oct 19 15:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.huffingtonpost.com | Nicholas Carroll: Credit Card Max-and-Walk: Consumers Learn How to Game the Banks [ http://ur1.ca/354wv ] | Oct 19 15:53 |
| DaemonFC | "(I once had a card frozen in less than five minutes for buying gas and then using it at Walmart; my pattern had fit the profile of a stolen card -- testing the card at a gas station and then rushing to Walmart to max it out.)" | Oct 19 15:53 |
| DaemonFC | I always use my credit card for gas and groceries. | Oct 19 15:53 |
| DaemonFC | but just so I can farm the cash back rewards. | Oct 19 15:53 |
| DaemonFC | banks don't like that, but they tolerate it | Oct 19 15:53 |
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| DaemonFC | Microsoft released a broken Windows 8.1 update that started bricking Windows RT devices. | Oct 19 18:57 |
| DaemonFC | So they pulled the update. | Oct 19 18:57 |
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| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer | Oct 19 20:04 |
| DaemonFC | 2 seconds ago | Oct 19 20:04 |
| DaemonFC | I could have Apple plot me some maps, except that it would probably tell me to drive over the Empire State Building in Alabama and then continue on until I reach Australia, which might or might not be there. | Oct 19 20:04 |
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| DaemonFC | http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/28032.html | Oct 19 20:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | mjg59.dreamwidth.org | mjg59 | The state of XMir | Oct 19 20:25 |
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| DaemonFC | My car's owner's manual says not to put engine coolant in the windshield washer fluid reservoir or windshield washer fluid in the engine coolant reservoir. | Oct 19 22:06 |
| DaemonFC | I wonder how you could do that. They're both labeled and one is blue and one is green. | Oct 19 22:07 |
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