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Sosumihttp://www.gsmarena.com/lg_g2_to_get_the_android_kitkat_update_in_q1_2014-news-7293.phpDec 01 00:08
TechrightsBot-trwww.gsmarena.com | LG G2 to get the Android KitKat update in Q1, 2014 - GSMArena.com news  [ http://ur1.ca/g4gx2 ]Dec 01 00:08
Sosumithey're all getting it on around januaryDec 01 00:08
MinceRthat's what she said.Dec 01 00:12
SosumiI don't think it really matters since the note 3 is a bit cheaperDec 01 00:15
Sosumiat least hereDec 01 00:15
Sosumiwhat I was looking forward was to get a nexus 5Dec 01 00:15
Sosumibut no 32GB version here in portugalDec 01 00:15
Sosumiso, I may end up getting a note 3Dec 01 00:16
Sosumisoon^tmDec 01 00:16
Sosumiwhich means, maybe tomorrow, next month, next year or on the next millenniumDec 01 00:16
SosumiI think I'll be moving to a new apartment near university sometime early next yearDec 01 00:18
Sosumiso that makes the need for a cell phone totally unnecessaryDec 01 00:18
SosumiI mean, a tracking device that makes phone calls and leaks dataDec 01 00:18
MinceRwatch out for the region lock, thenDec 01 00:22
Sosumiwhich region?Dec 01 00:22
MinceRhttps://startpage.com/do/metasearch.pl?q=samsung%20region%20lockDec 01 00:23
TechrightsBot-trstartpage.com | samsung region lock - Startpage Web Search  [ http://ur1.ca/g4gz9 ]Dec 01 00:23
MinceRi didn't look into detailsDec 01 00:23
SosumilolDec 01 00:24
Sosumiregion lock in a broad sense is drmDec 01 00:24
MinceRi hope samsung realizes how stupid this isDec 01 00:24
Sosumitotally laughableDec 01 00:26
Sosuminow I'll get one when pigs flyDec 01 00:26
Sosumihttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2515911/Black-Friday-shoppers-arrested-Virginia-man-35-sliced-bone.htmlDec 01 00:36
TechrightsBot-trwww.dailymail.co.uk | Black Friday shoppers arrested in Virginia after man, 35, is 'sliced to the bone'  | Mail Online  [ http://ur1.ca/g4h2r ]Dec 01 00:36
Sosuminow imagine if in a certain "event"Dec 01 00:37
Sosumifood was scarce and the shelves on the supermarkets were emptyDec 01 00:38
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DaemonFCSosumi: I would have gotten the Nexus 5 if they had a 32 GB version on sale with contract.Dec 01 01:47
DaemonFCBut you can't even get those with a contract, even at full price.Dec 01 01:47
DaemonFCSo I got the LG G2.Dec 01 01:48
DaemonFC"I have too much storage!"Dec 01 01:48
DaemonFCsaid nobody, ever.Dec 01 01:48
DaemonFCB-)Dec 01 01:48
Sosumithey don't have neither the G2 nor the nexus 5 with 32GBDec 01 01:48
Sosuminot even the galaxy S4 comes in a 32GB versionDec 01 01:48
Sosumiit's just plain sad the phone offerings in poortugalDec 01 01:49
Sosumiwell unless it's nokia and crapple,Dec 01 01:49
Sosumithose have all their catalog availableDec 01 01:49
DaemonFCSprint normally charges $200 for the G2 with contract.Dec 01 01:51
DaemonFCIt's a $650 phone off contract.Dec 01 01:51
DaemonFCI got mine for $50 with contract on the Black Friday sale.Dec 01 01:51
DaemonFCI chose to get a new phone number. The new number is fairly easy to remember.Dec 01 01:52
DaemonFCEvery couple of years, I shop around for a better deal. Sometimes that means changing carriers. I decided to change my number this time because I get to decide who gets the new number.Dec 01 01:53
Sosumi:)Dec 01 01:54
DaemonFCThere were a few medical bill collectors and nutcases that have my current number, and I took the opportunity to fix that.Dec 01 01:54
Sosumihttp://rt.com/usa/texas-boy-taser-coma-502/Dec 01 01:54
TechrightsBot-trrt.com | NO TITLE  [ http://ur1.ca/g4he6 ]Dec 01 01:54
DaemonFCAT&T went from bad to worse.Dec 01 01:54
DaemonFCThey charge...get this....Dec 01 01:54
DaemonFC$110 a month for unlimited talk and text and 1 GB of data.Dec 01 01:54
Sosumiyou can always request the operator to change your numberDec 01 01:55
SosumilawlDec 01 01:55
DaemonFCEach GB you want on your plan is an additional $10 a month.Dec 01 01:55
DaemonFCIf you go over, it's $15 per GBDec 01 01:55
Sosumi99€ here for unlimited everythingDec 01 01:55
DaemonFCIt's one of those things where they want to prod people into buying too much so they don't get whacked with the overage rate.Dec 01 01:55
DaemonFCThen they get to keep the money, and maybe the person doesn't even use the last 1-2 GB on their plan in any given month.Dec 01 01:56
DaemonFCSprint's deal is $50 a month for unlimited talk and text, plus $30 a month flat rate if you want data. There's no limit on the data, and no throttling.Dec 01 01:57
DaemonFCIf you go off their network, you can use up to 100 MB a month.Dec 01 01:57
DaemonFCT-Mobile's off-network data limit on their unlimited data plan was 50 MB a month.Dec 01 01:57
DaemonFCIf you use more than that, the contract states that they can disconnect your account.Dec 01 01:57
DaemonFCWell, Sprint seems to have a bigger network, and their off-network limit is double what T-Mobile's is.Dec 01 01:58
DaemonFCI asked them how I'd know if I tried using data while I was off network. They said it would say "ROAMING" on the display.Dec 01 01:58
DaemonFCYou still get unlimited talk and text if you're off their network.Dec 01 01:59
Sosumithat's not badDec 01 02:00
DaemonFCI wanted the 32 GB of local storage because I suspected that I will install a lot of apps.Dec 01 02:03
DaemonFCPlus, I don't really want to have to offload pictures and videos to "the cloud".Dec 01 02:03
SosumiI'm just in for the 32GB version only because I want the phone to also double as a music playerDec 01 02:03
Sosumiand since I have all my music in flac and I actually have decent headphonesDec 01 02:04
Sosumiit seems worthwhile Dec 01 02:04
Sosumiand so I can finally put my mini disc player and iPod to restDec 01 02:04
Sosumithe samsungs at least seem to have good DACs, LG not so muchDec 01 02:05
MinceR"There are 10 types of people in the world: those who understand binary, those who don't, and those who didn't expect this joke in base 3."Dec 01 02:19
qu1j0t3MIND == BLOWNDec 01 02:26
qu1j0t3 DaemonFC | There were a few medical bill collectors     || what are these? I live in CanadaDec 01 02:26
DaemonFCOh, it's something that happens whenever you get sick and live in America and aren't rich.Dec 01 02:27
qu1j0t3i only meet one of those conditions, touch woodDec 01 02:30
DaemonFCIt's another mechanism that the rich use to confiscate real property from the poor.Dec 01 02:31
DaemonFCThey know that everyone eventually gets sick, so they mark up the cost of medical expenses 1,000% and then garnish your wages, levy your accounts, and put liens on your house and cars.Dec 01 02:32
qu1j0t3DaemonFC: cogentDec 01 02:33
qu1j0t3DaemonFC: you sound more marxist than last i lurked in here. excellentDec 01 02:33
qu1j0t3DaemonFC: viva la revolucíon, viva Zapata!Dec 01 02:33
cubezzzMexico was once a lot bigger :)Dec 01 02:35
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/3353597Dec 01 02:37
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: 2 - it informs apps of locations. Google changes my preferences. 3 - it allows the device to be remotely locked, erased, by default!Dec 01 02:37
schestowitz"are you using the original android version that came with it?"Dec 01 02:37
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/3353596Dec 01 02:37
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: 1 - it assigned me "advertising id" with this spying by default (this is unprecedented, spun as 'feature'). Am I the product now?Dec 01 02:37
schestowitzit's a  Nexus device.Dec 01 02:37
Sosumiandroid open source is your solution thenDec 01 02:38
schestowitz"Dec 01 02:38
schestowitzI think the advertising ID has been around a while. It's on my default configuration Galaxy Nexus, which is two years old or so. Maybe there was an update it did not tell me about.Dec 01 02:38
schestowitzIn theory, and advertising ID could actually help privacy. If that's all Google gives advertisers, it would be more difficult to trace than something stupid like an IP address or hashed name. I'm sure there are practical holes, where advertisers can signal and the ISP can match the ad ID to your IP address and have you.Dec 01 02:38
schestowitzI'd prefer anonymous advertising. Private tracking networks are terrible invasions of privacy and are a key component in modern cointel programs.Dec 01 02:38
schestowitz"Dec 01 02:38
schestowitzCompanies like FB sell people's IPs and real IDs, browser history etc. so watching ID to real ID oughtn't be too hard. The people are the product.Dec 01 02:39
DaemonFCAny government agent that follows me on Facebook is going to have a really boring day at work.Dec 01 02:40
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/3353595Dec 01 02:40
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Google's #nexus has malicious features. Samsung S2 similar. It silently did three malicious things I can only see in Settings now.Dec 01 02:40
DaemonFCThey couldn't blackmail me. I admit that I'm openly gay. I watch porn.Dec 01 02:40
schestowitz"Don't really need a Google account or sign into one. There is the F-Droid open source software app that lets you install from that repository instead of Google's. Not as much software but some nice one's, installing an standalone apk is always an option too. https://f-droid.org/"Dec 01 02:40
TechrightsBot-trf-droid.org | F-Droid ·Dec 01 02:40
DaemonFCThere, now there's nothing.Dec 01 02:40
schestowitz!google coop chief hat pornDec 01 02:41
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Tories label Ed pathetic as he fumes at Co-op 'smears': Labour ... | http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2512950/Tories-label-Ed-pathetic-fumes-Co-op-smears-Labour-leader-bid-shift-blame-drug-banker.htmlDec 01 02:41
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Co-op declares war on lads' mags: Supermarket insist on 'modesty ... | http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2380574/Co-op-declares-war-lads-mags-Supermarket-insist-modesty-covers.htmlDec 01 02:41
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Crystal meth shame of bank chief: Counting off £20 notes to buy ... | http://js.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2508464/Crystal-meth-shame-bank-chief-Counting-20-notes-buy-hard-drugs-man-ran-Co-op-Bank--days-telling-MPs-lost-700m.htmlDec 01 02:41
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Drug shame banker's porn secret - Telegraph and Argus | http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/national/news/10819510.Drug_shame_banker_s_porn_secret/Dec 01 02:41
schestowitzshamed using itDec 01 02:41
schestowitzAnd they say "gay": as if they makes it so much more evilDec 01 02:41
DaemonFCI'm not important enough for them to blackmail anyway.Dec 01 02:41
schestowitz!google coop chief gay  pornDec 01 02:41
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - How much did Labour know about disgraced Co-op chief Paul ... | http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2510259/How-did-Labour-know-disgraced-Co-op-chief-Paul-Flowers.htmlDec 01 02:41
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Co-op chief Paul Flowers quit charity over '£150,000 false expenses ... | http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2510897/Co-op-chief-Paul-Flowers-quit-charity-150-000-false-expenses-claims.htmlDec 01 02:41
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Paul Flowers' escort Ciaron Dodd reveals drug-fuelled sex in rooms ... | http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2510241/Paul-Flowers-escort-Ciaron-Dodd-reveals-drug-fuelled-sex-rooms-paid-Co-op.htmlDec 01 02:41
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Labour's 'cover-up' over Co-op bank chief - Telegraph | http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/labour/10463912/Labours-cover-up-over-Co-op-bank-chief.htmlDec 01 02:41
schestowitzI see Daily mail crap printedDec 01 02:42
schestowitzon the paper near the saunaDec 01 02:42
schestowitzand I though,  is that porn being gat making it wiorse, as relevant to the article?Dec 01 02:42
DaemonFCMy stepdad's son was over for Thanksgiving. I didn't say anything because I didn't want to piss Dave off, but that kid of his is a real cretin. Dec 01 02:42
DaemonFC"Fuck" this, and "bitch" that, and "that's so gay!".Dec 01 02:42
qu1j0t3cubezzz: that'll probably happen again :DDec 01 02:42
DaemonFCI felt like slapping him, but I restrained myself.Dec 01 02:42
schestowitzI'd be more worried if he downloaded violent hollhywood films on his work computerDec 01 02:42
qu1j0t3DaemonFC: did he get off your lawn?Dec 01 02:43
schestowitzThat would be more harmfulDec 01 02:43
qu1j0t3schestowitz: +1Dec 01 02:43
qu1j0t3schestowitz: wonder where he got the violent language from?Dec 01 02:43
schestowitzit seems like they needed a lamb to sacrificeDec 01 02:43
schestowitzso he was smeared in the papers over gay pr0nDec 01 02:44
schestowitzand "gay",as it that's relevantDec 01 02:44
schestowitz!google nsa porn surfingDec 01 02:44
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Top-Secret Document Reveals NSA Spied On Porn Habits As Part ... | http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/26/nsa-porn-muslims_n_4346128.htmlDec 01 02:44
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - NSA spied on 'radicalisers' porn surfing so as to discredit them ... | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/11/27/nsa_smut_surfing_snooping_against_radicals/Dec 01 02:44
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - The NSA Is Tracking Your Porn Browsing | Zero Hedge | http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-11-27/nsa-tracking-your-porn-browsingDec 01 02:44
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - The N.S.A. Dips Into Pornography - NYTimes.com | http://takingnote.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/11/27/the-modern-honey-trap/Dec 01 02:44
schestowitzTurf WafrsDec 01 02:44
schestowitzAs long as they don't reveal where the info comes fromDec 01 02:44
schestowitzYou can destory potetntial politicians this wayDec 01 02:45
schestowitzShaming US-sceptics ones for exampleDec 01 02:45
schestowitzLewinski-like scandalsDec 01 02:45
schestowitzor CIA head's affairDec 01 02:45
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/3348949Dec 01 02:46
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Jolla/Sailfish is Not Selfish; It's Quite Freedom-Respecting http://techrights.org/2013/11/28/freedom-respecting-sailfish-os/ #jolla #sailfishos #linux #nokiaDec 01 02:46
schestowitz"UI is not libre though."Dec 01 02:46
TechrightsBot-tr-> techrights.org | Jolla/Sailfish is Not Selfish; It’s Quite Freedom-Respecting | Techrights  [ http://ur1.ca/g4hk2 ]Dec 01 02:46
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Sosumihttp://t.co/b9SgJLm8KwDec 01 02:51
TechrightsBot-trwww.youtube.com | Richard Stallman on good things and bad things about Bitcoin - YouTubeDec 01 02:51
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msb_RMS didn't comment on what I think is the fundamental problem with bitcoin:  It has no intrinsic value.  Why should anyone accept it as money?  I'm creating a new form of money -- BilkBoogers -- worth $10,000 each!  Get in on the ground floor.  There's only a limited supply.Dec 01 04:27
MinceRthe same is true of almost any currencyDec 01 04:29
MinceRand gold is in limited supplyDec 01 04:29
msb_Actually the supply slowly increases over time, to keep up with the new goods and services being created.Dec 01 04:29
msb_Gold does have intrinsic value, for jewelry and non-corroding electrical contacts.Dec 01 04:30
msb_Also, there's plenty more in the planet to be mined.Dec 01 04:30
MinceRyes, but afaik there's not enough gold to reflect all the value in the current economyDec 01 04:31
msb_I think Russia has a lot, and there's also silver, platinum, etc.Dec 01 04:32
qu1j0t3  msb_ | Gold does have intrinsic value, for jewelry    || this is only conventionDec 01 04:34
msb_There's a lot needed for electronics.Dec 01 04:35
qu1j0t3it's not as desperately scarce as some other necessary metals, though :)Dec 01 04:35
qu1j0t3(for electronics)Dec 01 04:35
msb_Bitcoins are as intrinsically worthless as U.S. dollars, and aren't even backed up by the full faith and cruise missiles of the U.S. govt (see Libya).Dec 01 04:38
qu1j0t3praise the loahrd!Dec 01 04:39
msb_And pass the Hellfire missiles.Dec 01 04:40
MinceR"it is time from some righteous carnage in the name of the lord jesus christ!"Dec 01 04:41
msb_Kill a commie for Christ!Dec 01 04:42
MinceRgnDec 01 04:47
msb_see yaDec 01 04:48
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DaemonFC[23:37] <msb_> Bitcoins are as intrinsically worthless as U.S. dollars, and aren't even backed up by the full faith and cruise missiles of the U.S. govt (see Libya).Dec 01 05:31
DaemonFCWell, you can have a bubble in anything that people accept as a currency or an asset.Dec 01 05:31
DaemonFCWhat is a pound of coffee or an ounce of gold worth? That varies every day too.Dec 01 05:31
msb_Wanna buy a BilkBooger(TM)?Dec 01 05:32
msb_The worth of coffee and gold does vary, but it's tied to real-world utility.  Bitcoin has no utility.Dec 01 05:34
msb_A person would accept bitcoin only if they were sure they could sell it for something useful, before its value crashed.Dec 01 05:38
msb_It's a scam, and has been from the beginning.Dec 01 05:39
msb_Like televangelists, who take money from suckers and promise to pray for them.Dec 01 05:40
msb_The electrical energy used to compute the bitcoin, if stored in a battery or supercapacitor instead, would be worth something.Dec 01 05:42
msb_I had a dream that I was working for a scientist, who was very happy to have gotten, free, an RCA supercomputer from the 1970s.  I tried to explain to him that he could buy a much more capable machine for $600 today.Dec 01 05:44
msb_And not need a large air-conditioned room.  Not relevant to bitcoin.Dec 01 05:45
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/3353597Dec 01 08:18
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: 2 - it informs apps of locations. Google changes my preferences. 3 - it allows the device to be remotely locked, erased, by default!Dec 01 08:18
schestowitzeven though it's a Nexus, you can use cyanogenmod or another one that's not 100% controlled by google..."77"Dec 01 08:18
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/3355333Dec 01 08:19
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Microsoft Should Be Scared to Death of Google's ChromebooksDec 01 08:19
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.fool.com | Microsoft Should Be Scared to Death of Google's Chromebooks (GOOG, HPQ, MSFT)  [ http://ur1.ca/g4f8q ]Dec 01 08:19
schestowitzI remember reading that it would protect against viruses which attack at the bootloader level, but those are so few and far between that it wouldn't matter to anyone."77"Dec 01 08:19
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iophkhttp://torrentfreak.com/what-piracy-removing-drm-boosts-music-sales-by-10-percent-131130/Dec 01 11:06
TechrightsBot-trtorrentfreak.com | What Piracy? Removing DRM Boosts Music Sales by 10 Percent | TorrentFreak  [ http://ur1.ca/g4j87 ]Dec 01 11:06
iophk10% - 30% increase of revenue without DRMDec 01 11:06
iophkno date on this article but it seems recent:Dec 01 11:15
iophkhttp://www.pcworld.com/article/2067987/berners-lee-blasts-surveillance-as-a-threat-to-democracy.htmlDec 01 11:15
TechrightsBot-trwww.pcworld.com | Berners-Lee blasts surveillance as a threat to democracy | PCWorld  [ http://ur1.ca/g4j9g ]Dec 01 11:15
iophkHe's ok with DRM though...Dec 01 11:15
iophkhttp://www.itwire.com/your-it-news/mobility/62452-apple-free-to-spy-on-its-users-%E2%80%93-as-are-allDec 01 11:18
TechrightsBot-trwww.itwire.com | Apple free to spy on its users – as are all!  [ http://ur1.ca/g4j9z ]Dec 01 11:18
iophkhttp://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/10486452/Child-taken-from-womb-by-social-services.htmlDec 01 12:01
TechrightsBot-trwww.telegraph.co.uk | Child taken from womb by social services - Telegraph  [ http://ur1.ca/g4jev ]Dec 01 12:01
Sosumion OS X, even if you disable the "submit reports" option to apple on the security tab of system preferencesDec 01 12:26
Sosumilittle snitch still caught the process "submit diag info" trying to call appleDec 01 12:27
Sosumiand I tested it to the point of confirming that it doesn't matter if you choose to send, or not, the diagnostics info to crappleDec 01 12:28
Sosumias for the iPhone, I was able to confirm today that it also features an advertising IDDec 01 12:29
Sosumiat least on iPhone os 7Dec 01 12:29
Sosumican't say for the othersDec 01 12:29
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/335359Dec 01 13:31
TechrightsBot-trNot a Diaspora post?Dec 01 13:31
schestowitz"It's true, CM seems to be going in a bad direction. But right now they still have the best device support. Then there's OmniROM, which is several old CM devs that jumped ship. Replicant is the best one with regard to software freedom, but device support is very limited unfortunately."Dec 01 13:31
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/3353595Dec 01 13:31
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Google's #nexus has malicious features. Samsung S2 similar. It silently did three malicious things I can only see in Settings now.Dec 01 13:31
schestowitz[11:15] <iophk> He's ok with DRM though...Dec 01 13:42
schestowitzyeah, I chastised him for it thrice in Twitter, other sites, and even techrightsDec 01 13:42
schestowitzhe should be criticised widely for DRM until he reevaluates the moveDec 01 13:42
schestowitzSosumi: thanks for checkingDec 01 13:46
SosumiI'll look more into that after the finalsDec 01 14:25
Sosumito see what kind of data OSX leaksDec 01 14:25
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schestowitzOLD: http://opensource.com/health/13/3/interview-luis-falcon-gnu-healthDec 01 15:36
TechrightsBot-tropensource.com | GNU Health is free, open source software | opensource.com  [ http://ur1.ca/d1ohu ]Dec 01 15:36
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schestowitzhttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/07/16/libre_office_hardware_acceleration/Dec 01 15:40
TechrightsBot-trwww.theregister.co.uk | How do you solve a problem like LibreOffice: From Excel to slab fever • The Register  [ http://ur1.ca/g4k7t ]Dec 01 15:40
schestowitzFrom MS gavinDec 01 15:40
iophkThe Reg went over to M$ a while back.  Too bad.Dec 01 15:45
cubezzzbetter than CBC, they barely acknowledge Linux existsDec 01 15:50
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/3358771Dec 01 15:50
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: RT @JesselynRadack  Heard 3X: "#Snowden is prob feeling really  depressed. Do you think he's suicidal? [1/2]Dec 01 15:50
schestowitz"Don't let them see that he is depressed they will never let him back into the USA ........ ( or maybe he should go get a doctors certificate ) Canadian woman refused U.S. entry because of depression - Toronto - CBC News • http://tinyurl.com/q7vxw6e "Dec 01 15:50
TechrightsBot-trtinyurl.com | NO TITLEDec 01 15:50
schestowitzcubezzz: CBC ^^Dec 01 15:50
cubezzzyes, I saw thatDec 01 15:50
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/3358790Dec 01 15:51
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The reason why Kdenlive can’t die…it’s Open Source http://www.muktware.com/2013/11/reason-kdenlive-cant-die-open-source/16964 good points. #kdeDec 01 15:51
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.muktware.com | The reason why Kdenlive can't die...it's Open Source | MuktwareMuktware  [ http://ur1.ca/g4k9h ]Dec 01 15:51
schestowitz"Don't still knows this people about the difference between Open Source and Free Software??"Dec 01 15:51
schestowitzThe author should know better. RMS explained to him already.Dec 01 15:51
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/3358838Dec 01 15:52
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schestowitz"@Dr. Roy Schestowitz , don't make me register myself in anywhere, please!"Dec 01 15:52
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/3359000Dec 01 15:58
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Ignoring #surveillance by #microsoft #apple etc. - the new trend http://arstechnica.com/business/2013/07/disgruntled-google-users-try-to-live-a-low-google-lifestyle/Dec 01 15:58
TechrightsBot-tr-> arstechnica.com | Disgruntled Google users try to live a low-Google lifestyle | Ars Technica  [ http://ur1.ca/g4kb6 ]Dec 01 15:58
schestowitz"How living without google is even hard? come on ... I don't use Google at all since 2004. Yes, it's 10 years. We have plenty of search engines, some of them might use google anonymously, like a startpage.com which acts as a proxy search engine, respecting your privacy. Also why would I want to place my data in the hands of google and its clouds? no, thanks. That's my data and I am deciding where I want to put it. I also don't use any Dec 01 15:58
schestowitzapps provided by google. For me it's not a trend, it's the way I interact with the internet."Dec 01 15:58
cubezzzCBC would never do an article like this: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/11/01/25_alternative_pc_operating_systems/Dec 01 16:13
TechrightsBot-trwww.theregister.co.uk | Fed up with Windows? Linux too easy? Get weird, go ALTERNATIVE • The Register  [ http://ur1.ca/fzm5s ]Dec 01 16:13
cubezzzso the register isn't _that_ badDec 01 16:14
iophkSome of those example OS are out of date.  Haiku should have been mentioned instead of BeOS, as one case.Dec 01 16:17
iophkThe did get experimental stuff like ReactOS Dec 01 16:17
iophkthat's good. Dec 01 16:17
iophkToo bad it won't be ready by the EOL of XPDec 01 16:17
cubezzzthey mention HaikuDec 01 16:17
iophkI missed it, I'll look againDec 01 16:17
iophkreading is not so good apparently. :(Dec 01 16:18
cubezzzeven OpenGenera is mentionedDec 01 16:18
cubezzzI'll add 9vx to the mix, which adds Plan 9 user programs to Linux and BSDDec 01 16:23
cubezzzreally the sharing of source code on a large scale can be traced back to 1975-76 eraDec 01 16:26
cubezzzUnix v6 magtapes from Bell Labs showed up at Toronto, Purdue, Berkeley, Yale, Cornell, Lawrence Livermore Labs and tons of other placesDec 01 16:28
cubezzzv6 license started at $150, then $400 later on for v7Dec 01 16:41
cubezzza commercial license for Unix System V $43,000Dec 01 16:42
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cubezzzcheck out what things were like in the 'bad old days':Dec 01 16:52
cubezzzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/pricelist84.pdfDec 01 16:52
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sebsebsebhiDec 01 18:10
iophkhiDec 01 18:10
sebsebsebiophk: apparnatly I am getting oldDec 01 18:11
msb_Da Reg has a very favorable report on OpenSuse.  The comments are worth reading, too. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/11/27/review_opensuse_13_1/Dec 01 18:56
TechrightsBot-trwww.theregister.co.uk | OpenSUSE 13.1: Oh look, a Linux with YOU in mind (and 64-bit ARMs) • The Register  [ http://ur1.ca/g4l1u ]Dec 01 18:56
iophkhttp://www.techinasia.com/video-games-restricted-vietnam/Dec 01 18:56
TechrightsBot-trwww.techinasia.com | If you're under 18 and you use virtual currency in Vietnam, you'll be fined up to $3,500  [ http://ur1.ca/g4l1y ]Dec 01 18:56
MinceRso the m$ site pushes m$ linuxDec 01 18:59
MinceRwhat a surpriseDec 01 18:59
msb_MinceR: How is The Register an m$ site?  I missed that.Dec 01 19:03
MinceRthey keep pushing m$ and attacking free softwareDec 01 19:03
msb_OpenSuse is free software.Dec 01 19:03
iophkIt is full of M$ Dec 01 19:05
iophkThere is also the paper trail of patent liability which is not a joking matter.Dec 01 19:06
msb_iophk: How is it full of M$?   And how does this patent liability work?Dec 01 19:08
msb_iophk: Does it have dot.Net stuff in it?Dec 01 19:09
iophkread up on it, pleaseDec 01 19:09
msb_iophk: No definite answers?Dec 01 19:09
iophk!google microsoft novell patentsDec 01 19:09
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Microsoft gets Novell's Patents rights but must share them with Open ... | http://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/microsoft-gets-novells-patents-rights-but-must-share-them-with-open-source-software/8713Dec 01 19:09
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Microsoft-backed CPTN alters Novell patent acquisition terms - ZDNet | http://www.zdnet.com/blog/microsoft/microsoft-backed-cptn-alters-novell-patent-acquisition-terms-to-appease-antitrust-authorities/9250Dec 01 19:09
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Novell - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NovellDec 01 19:09
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Microsoft Purchasing 882 Novell Patents | TechHive | http://www.techhive.com/article/211366/microsoft_purchasing_882_novell_patents.htmlDec 01 19:09
msb_iophk: Which of those would tell me how any patent arrangements would cause me problems as an OpenSuse user?  What are the problems?Dec 01 19:11
iophkPatent payments are owed by the user.  At this particular moment, Novell/M$ choose not to pass it on to the user.  That *can* change Dec 01 19:12
msb_iophk: Is stuff covered by (now) MS patents in OpenSuse?Dec 01 19:12
iophkPatents like in GIF have been a problem. They are spread until deemed spread wide enough.Dec 01 19:13
msb_iophk: Is stuff covered by (now) MS patents in OpenSuse?Dec 01 19:13
iophkThe contracts say there is M$ stuff in Suse.Dec 01 19:13
msb_Which I might have to pay for in the future?Dec 01 19:13
iophkyes which you might have to pay at any timeDec 01 19:13
iophkGIF was one example of how that worked.Dec 01 19:14
iophkLet it spread, then collect.Dec 01 19:14
msb_Would you please point me to the contracts that say MS-patented stuff is in Suse?Dec 01 19:14
iophkroy has pointed it out to you before as have others.Dec 01 19:14
msb_I don't think he has pointed out that specific info.Dec 01 19:15
iophkThe details are not public apparently.Dec 01 19:15
iophkThe general liability is pointed out.Dec 01 19:15
iophkThat part is clear.Dec 01 19:15
msb_But if there is no actual MS-patented stuff is in Suse, how is there any liability?Dec 01 19:16
iophkNovell pays M$ , there is the liability.Dec 01 19:16
msb_They pay M$ for what exactly?Dec 01 19:17
iophk"patents"Dec 01 19:17
msb_And is that stuff also used in other distros?Dec 01 19:17
iophkhttp://news.cnet.com/Microsoft-makes-Linux-pact-with-Novell/2100-1016_3-6132119.htmlDec 01 19:17
iophkmostly notDec 01 19:17
TechrightsBot-trnews.cnet.com | Microsoft makes Linux pact with Novell - CNET News  [ http://ur1.ca/g4l4y ]Dec 01 19:17
MinceRmost other distros don't support m$'s and novell's unproven claims of infringementDec 01 19:18
iophkThe articles on Novell paying M$ are harder to find lately, they're there, just harder to find in the search engines.Dec 01 19:20
msb_That articles says that M$ will _not_ enforce patent claims agains Suse users.Dec 01 19:21
msb_Whereas it might against users of other distros.Dec 01 19:21
MinceRwhich means it is nonfreeDec 01 19:21
msb_But if the infringement claims are bogus, they are bogus for all distros.Dec 01 19:22
MinceRthe claims are secret.Dec 01 19:22
iophkIf that is even true, that they won't enforce againse Suse users, going along with that is encouraging that behavior.Dec 01 19:22
iophkExtortionDec 01 19:22
MinceRand such contracts help support the claimsDec 01 19:22
MinceRforcing others into entering into such deals as wellDec 01 19:22
msb_There is nowhere in the usage of Suse that I'm saying I'm "going along with that".Dec 01 19:23
iophkUsing it says explicitly that you are fine with thatDec 01 19:23
iophkvery much soDec 01 19:23
iophkmbs_: http://www.groklaw.net/staticpages/index.php?page=20061218045851480Dec 01 19:23
TechrightsBot-trwww.groklaw.net | Groklaw -  Novell-MS Deal  [ http://ur1.ca/g4l5l ]Dec 01 19:23
iophkThat's the start.  There have been renewals.Dec 01 19:24
msb_If M$ starts attacking Linux again, all Linux distros and users will fight them.Dec 01 19:24
MinceRactually there's plenty in the usage of [open]suse that says you're fine with thatDec 01 19:24
MinceRno, [open]suse will not fight themDec 01 19:24
MinceRi'm not sure if the other flavors of m$ linux have survivedDec 01 19:24
iophkOnly Red Hat would have money.Dec 01 19:24
iophkhttp://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20061221081000710Dec 01 19:26
TechrightsBot-trwww.groklaw.net | Groklaw - Jeremy Allison Has Resigned from Novell  to Protest  MS Patent Deal  [ http://ur1.ca/ffk3u ]Dec 01 19:26
msb_What are the "other flavors of m$ linux" ?Dec 01 19:27
MinceRthere was turbolinuxDec 01 19:28
MinceRit seems that linspire and xandros did such deals tooDec 01 19:28
iophkit was the end of those distrosDec 01 19:29
msb_Did paying MS cost them too much?Dec 01 19:29
iophkIt cost reputation, and money.Dec 01 19:30
msb_If MS starts suing Linux distros for patent infringement, how exactly will NovellDec 01 19:31
msb_'s secret contract harm those other distros?Dec 01 19:31
iophkby establishing encouragement for suing / payment for "secret" patentsDec 01 19:32
MinceRthat contract already harmed gnu and linuxDec 01 19:32
iophkIt only works if enough chumps go along with it.Dec 01 19:32
msb_If MS tells the court "see, Novell paid us", the other distros will just say "Bullshit".Dec 01 19:32
MinceRand continues to do soDec 01 19:32
iophkIt is already harming the other distros.Dec 01 19:32
msb_Either MS will actually have a case and will have to reveal it or they won't.  Their scamming of Novell has nothing to do with that.Dec 01 19:34
iophkSCODec 01 19:34
msb_so?Dec 01 19:34
iophkM$ can attack even without supporting grounds.Dec 01 19:34
iophkUsing [open]suse is voting for that in the future.Dec 01 19:35
MinceRit's easier for m$ to get others into such deals without having to defend their claims in court (or even revealing them) with each such dealDec 01 19:35
msb_It can always do that because we live under a fascist/corporatist economic system.Dec 01 19:35
iophkWith Android, M$ has gone the divide and conquer route, taking down companies one at a time.Dec 01 19:35
iophkand makes more off of Android than it's failure of a phoneDec 01 19:36
iophk*itsDec 01 19:36
msb_MS is a hugely criminal company.  I wrote a big page about that on my website:  http://cosmicpenguin.com/linux/MICROSOFTS_WAR_AGAINST_LINUX.htmlDec 01 19:39
TechrightsBot-trcosmicpenguin.com | MICROSOFT'S WAR AGAINST LINUX  [ http://ur1.ca/6f05a ]Dec 01 19:39
msb_But the only way to stop MS extortion is to call them on it.Dec 01 19:40
iophkBasically.Dec 01 19:40
msb_Just like in the SCO suit, where it turned out their claims were all lies.Dec 01 19:40
iophkSCO is still going.Dec 01 19:41
msb_What's the current status?Dec 01 19:41
iophkIt turned out to be lies within days, but the case is still going.Dec 01 19:41
msb_going where?Dec 01 19:41
MinceR[open]suse supports m$'s war against linuxDec 01 19:41
iophkhttp://www.groklaw.net/staticpages/index.php?page=20031016162215566Dec 01 19:41
TechrightsBot-trwww.groklaw.net | Groklaw - SCO v. IBM Timeline  [ http://ur1.ca/g4l7q ]Dec 01 19:41
iophkThere there is SCO vs others...Dec 01 19:42
iophkGroklaw is closed now.  Dec 01 19:42
iophkSo there will not be any more coverage of SCO .Dec 01 19:42
msb_The string "suse supports" does not appear on that page.Dec 01 19:43
MinceRnobody claimed it appeared there.Dec 01 19:44
iophkMinceR: he is being intentionally obtuseDec 01 19:45
msb_MinceR: ok, where did you find the evidence for what you wrote: " [open]suse supports m$'s war against linux" ?Dec 01 19:45
MinceRsee above.Dec 01 19:45
MinceRthis is what the novell deal and its advertisement does.Dec 01 19:46
msb_I am not.  If the only way to stop MS extortion is to call them on it, and demand they reveal what patents are being infringed and how, the whatever deals were made have no effect.Dec 01 19:47
msb_the -> thenDec 01 19:47
msb_The only effect is PR.Dec 01 19:47
MinceRdamaging PR.Dec 01 19:47
iophkAnd the establishment of a payment history.Dec 01 19:47
msb_That would have no effect on a court decision.Dec 01 19:48
iophkThey can point to Suse and say that Novell has been paying for X years.Dec 01 19:48
MinceRalso handing m$ even more money with which to take away our remaining freedoms.Dec 01 19:48
msb_And everyone can point to MS's history of extortion.Dec 01 19:48
iophkThen why go along with all that and be helping them attack F/OSS?Dec 01 19:49
msb_I don't pay for OpenSuse.Dec 01 19:49
iophkUse an unencumbered distro.  Dec 01 19:49
iophkYou're on the hook for suse even if Novell is (for the time) paying.Dec 01 19:49
iophkIt establishes that distros need to be paying M$Dec 01 19:50
iophkDon't take it personally.  Just move on to a Free distro.Dec 01 19:50
msb_This "encumbrance" is a matter of interpretation.Dec 01 19:50
iophkNo.Dec 01 19:50
msb_Other distros are not as good.Dec 01 19:50
iophkIt's a legal position.Dec 01 19:50
iophkDebian.  Ubuntu.  Mageia.  RHELDec 01 19:50
iophkThey're not as good, they're better.Dec 01 19:51
msb_How?Dec 01 19:51
iophkEasier to work with.Dec 01 19:51
MinceRindeed, other distros are better.Dec 01 19:51
msb_I don't think so.Dec 01 19:51
iophkAnd important to this conversation, unencumbered.Dec 01 19:51
iophkYou just talked about the problems of letting M$ get away with extortion.Dec 01 19:51
msb_Now you're going in circles.Dec 01 19:51
msb_That's a vagued-out misinterpretation of what I wrote.Dec 01 19:52
msb_I said that if MS attacks, they must be fought.  Same as any software patent attacks.Dec 01 19:53
iophkM$ is laying the ground work for the attack.  Dec 01 19:53
iophkIf you let them dig in, they will be hardest to fight.Dec 01 19:53
iophkDon't let them dig in.Dec 01 19:54
msb_Now you're reasoning from bogus analogy.  Dec 01 19:54
msb_To fight them we have to demand they reveal the secret patents.Dec 01 19:54
iophkAnd most of all, don't validate their claims by your choice of distro.Dec 01 19:54
msb_That's all that matters.Dec 01 19:55
msb_How about if I put a statement  on my homepage saying I'm using Suse in spite of its arrangement with M$?  So I'm not validating it.Dec 01 19:56
MinceRit's betterDec 01 19:57
iophkPeople seeing you use it won't see your home page.Dec 01 19:57
MinceRbut not using [open]suse is even betterDec 01 19:57
MinceRnot advertising [open]suse is also betterDec 01 19:57
iophkMaybe make it part of the desktop background image. :PDec 01 19:57
msb_Do you think all (or any) of the OpenSuse devs agree with the arrangement?Dec 01 19:57
MinceRthe ones who were on novell payroll certainly didDec 01 19:57
msb_You think they should have quit and let their families starve?Dec 01 19:58
iophkThe ones who disagreed left.Dec 01 19:58
iophkThe competent ones can get jobs elsewhere.Dec 01 19:58
msb_In this economy?Dec 01 19:59
iophkAllison got a new one within hours but then he's a superstarDec 01 19:59
iophkYesDec 01 19:59
msb_With competition from India?Dec 01 19:59
iophkIn this economy.  Skilled IT is sought afterDec 01 19:59
iophkAlso they don't have to quit till they've got a new job.  Dec 01 20:00
iophkBut the fact that they've stayed on  says their fine with what M$ is trying to do.Dec 01 20:00
msb_No it doesn't.Dec 01 20:00
iophkThrough their actions it does, very clearly.Dec 01 20:01
iophkThere have been 7 years to find new jobs.Dec 01 20:01
iophkUsually a new job is higher paying or otherwise better.Dec 01 20:01
msb_In capitalism employers are always coercing employees, without even trying.Dec 01 20:01
msb_You're living in the past.Dec 01 20:01
iophkFrom 2011 then : "Novell also agreed to pay Microsoft a percentage of revenue from its open-source products."Dec 01 20:02
iophkhttp://www.winrumors.com/microsoft-backs-out-of-acquiring-novell-patents-for-450-million/Dec 01 20:02
TechrightsBot-trwww.winrumors.com | Microsoft pulls papers for Novell patents deal worth $450 million | WinRumors  [ http://ur1.ca/g4la9 ]Dec 01 20:02
msb_So?Dec 01 20:03
msb_I'll bet if MS actually did attack, people would fork OpenSuse, and I'd use that.Dec 01 20:04
MinceRit would be too late to act once the attack happensDec 01 20:04
msb_Why>Dec 01 20:04
msb_?Dec 01 20:04
MinceRalso, there's no need to fork opensuse, as there are plenty of distros that are already much betterDec 01 20:05
msb_Sez you.Dec 01 20:05
iophkand the patents cover *use* not codeDec 01 20:05
MinceRbecause developing software that doesn't depend on patents that the ones you're replacing doesn't happen in a moment.Dec 01 20:05
iophkforking does nothing about patentsDec 01 20:05
iophkanyway since you can see the trap now, why walk into it?Dec 01 20:06
msb_But nobody knows if any patents are actually being infringed!Dec 01 20:06
iophkNovell might or might not know.Dec 01 20:06
iophkThe vagueness is part of the game M$ is trying.Dec 01 20:06
iophkThe infringment is declared by Novell.  It is paying M$ for the right to infringe on those patents.Dec 01 20:07
msb_The ones you should blame are anyone who uses MS-Dec 01 20:07
msb_windows.Dec 01 20:07
iophkand other M$ products like SuseDec 01 20:08
iophkthey are all underwriting M$ actions in this area.Dec 01 20:08
iophkM$ gets money from Novell.Dec 01 20:08
msb_But Novell gets no money from me.Dec 01 20:09
iophkThey do via your use of suse.Dec 01 20:10
msb_How?Dec 01 20:10
iophkIf noone used Suse then Novell would not pay.Dec 01 20:10
iophkNovell is just priming the pump for M$ to collect, either directly or, via Novell, indirectly.Dec 01 20:11
msb_More BS.  Novell doesn't even know how many people are using Suse.Dec 01 20:11
iophkSo, when does your patent statement hit your web page?Dec 01 20:11
msb_If one shop owner on a street pays off the mafia to avoid being attacked, that doesn't affect the others.Dec 01 20:12
iophkyes, it doesDec 01 20:12
iophkit affects them allDec 01 20:12
msb_But they're doing it to avoid being killed.Dec 01 20:13
iophkso your choice is getting killed or using Suse then?   I understand now.Dec 01 20:13
msb_totally bogus interpretationDec 01 20:14
msb_Where do you have a page on your website like my "MS WAR AGAINST LINUX" ?Dec 01 20:14
iophkWhat about the patents?Dec 01 20:15
msb_?Dec 01 20:15
msb_"I use OpenSuse Linux because I think it is the best engineered and maintained.  I absolutely do not approve of the actions of Novell, which bought it, in paying Microsoft money for vicous Microsoft extortion for its secret patents.  Please do not ever buy anything  from Microsoft!"Dec 01 20:23
msb_How's that?Dec 01 20:24
msb_...for my websiteDec 01 20:24
msb_iophk: ?Dec 01 20:24
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msb_iophk: ?Dec 01 20:26
MinceR"please do not use [open]suse!"Dec 01 20:27
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iophkUsage == market share == moneyDec 01 20:51
iophk"please do not use [open]suse!"Dec 01 20:51
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Sosumiit seems things are kind of heated in Ukraine, because of the falling apart of the EU dealDec 01 21:13
Sosumialso rummers point out for Dell releasing 4k display sometime soonDec 01 21:13
Sosumi*rummorsDec 01 21:14
Sosumiffs, rumoursDec 01 21:14
DaemonFCabout a minute agoDec 01 21:49
DaemonFChttp://www.fsf.org/givingguideDec 01 21:49
TechrightsBot-trwww.fsf.org | 2013 Holiday Giving Guide — Free Software Foundation — working together for free softwareDec 01 21:49
DaemonFCI recommend Android. I just bought an Android phone.Dec 01 21:49
DaemonFCIt's true that Android phones and tablets don't fully respect your freedom, but Apple just pisses all over it.Dec 01 21:49
DaemonFCWhen you use an Apple device, it's never truly yours, because it doesn't obey you. It has been programmed to obey Hollywood, the RIAA, and Apple first.Dec 01 21:49
DaemonFCSo, you're not even in control of what your iPhone or iPad runs. It has to be whitelisted by Apple first. They've used this power maliciously to keep out applications that can circumvent DRM, and to enforce their own software monopoly by keeping out applications that compete with Apple's software.Dec 01 21:49
DaemonFCApple devices are the most restrictive on the market. OS X on desktops and laptops is going in the same direction with the Gatekeeper malware in version 10.8.Dec 01 21:49
DaemonFCEventually, the choice to override Gatekeeper and install software that's not on Apple's whitelist will disappear.Dec 01 21:49
DaemonFCAnd there's a reason that they attacked their mobile users first. Mobile devices started out being less freedom-respecting than desktop computers, where users were accustomed to doing whatever they want. Now that Apple has gotten users to stop caring about their freedom with iThings, they're going to move those same restrictions back to their Macintosh computers.Dec 01 21:49
MinceRrestricted boot devices also piss over your freedomDec 01 21:51
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DaemonFC2 seconds agoDec 01 21:58
DaemonFCI think that Google understands that there's an important segment of their market that is fairly competent with technology. It's not the majority, but it's an important part of the market because they are the ones that recommend things to other people.Dec 01 21:59
DaemonFCApple has never tried to cater to people like me.Dec 01 21:59
DaemonFCWell, we see what the result is. Four out of five smartphones run Android, because there's basically no restrictions on what device manufacturers can use it.Dec 01 21:59
DaemonFCApple has a decent share of the market for a single company, but they're a minority as far as marketshare goes, and they're basically going to be the next Blackberry.Dec 01 21:59
DaemonFCCompanies that are developing iOS exclusives are going to go the way of websites designed for Internet Explorer.Dec 01 21:59
DaemonFCAnd iOS users are like your parents that ask you how you're supposed to set the alarm clock and program a remote control. If VCRs were still around, theirs would be flashing 12:00.Dec 01 22:00
DaemonFCa few seconds agoDec 01 22:08
DaemonFCHere are some actual replies to my personal ads that were sent from iOS users:Dec 01 22:08
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DaemonFCSent from my iPhoneDec 01 22:08
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DaemonFC(I get a lot of these)Dec 01 22:08
DaemonFCHiDec 01 22:08
DaemonFCSent from my iPhoneDec 01 22:08
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DaemonFC(I get a lot of these)Dec 01 22:08
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DaemonFCYou just haven talk to me I wrote you many time waiting for youDec 01 22:09
DaemonFCSent from my iPhoneDec 01 22:09
DaemonFCa few seconds agoDec 01 22:09
DaemonFCHow did the world become so plagued by people who are totally unable to express themselves?Dec 01 22:09
DaemonFCHow do these people afford iPhones?Dec 01 22:09
DaemonFCa few seconds agoDec 01 22:15
DaemonFCI mean, I'm not asking for Shakespeare or anything, but damn...Dec 01 22:15
DaemonFCI think I'm going to tell Mozilla Thunderbird to send all messages with "Sent from my iPhone" directly into the trash.Dec 01 22:15
DaemonFCTHE TRASH!Dec 01 22:15
SosumihahahahahahahahahaDec 01 22:27
Sosumicheap publicity stunt there with crapple enabling the "sent from hypephone" sig by defaultDec 01 22:28
Sosumithere's also one for the iPad and another for icloudDec 01 22:28
iophkhttp://techcrunch.com/2013/11/30/jolla-first-phone/Dec 01 22:28
TechrightsBot-trtechcrunch.com | Hands On With Jolla’s First Phone — The “Spearhead Device” For Its MeeGo-Successor Sailfish OS  |  TechCrunch  [ http://ur1.ca/g4mnj ]Dec 01 22:28
DaemonFChttps://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/1005017_188918071312380_202746617_n.jpgDec 01 22:44
DaemonFCMicrosoft very sore after backdoor access by NSA.Dec 01 22:44
DaemonFC:)Dec 01 22:44
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MinceR:)Dec 01 22:52
DaemonFC5 minutes agoDec 01 22:53
DaemonFCWell...Dec 01 22:53
DaemonFC#1: Microsoft is the one who backdoored Windows in the first place, to allow the NSA access to your system, and to allow them to silently install additional malware. They also changed Skype's network to make it easy for the NSA to listen to all Skype phone calls.Dec 01 22:53
DaemonFC#2: Microsoft was SURPRISED when the NSA accessed their internal network (which probably has a lot of Windows machines)?Dec 01 22:53
DaemonFC#3: They vow to encrypt their internal network, with encryption standards that were designed by the NSA.Dec 01 22:53
MinceRs/easy/easier/Dec 01 22:53
MinceRFTFYDec 01 22:53
DaemonFC3 minutes ago · EditedDec 01 23:00
DaemonFCI have a difficult time deciding which is worse. Apple or Microsoft.Dec 01 23:00
DaemonFCI suppose that if it was only a choice between Apple or Microsoft, I'd stop using computers entirely. They're two sides of the same coin. They are cut from the same cloth. They pretend to hate each other and fight bitterly, but they really are cooperating and making deals with each other behind the scenes, on how best and how quickly to screw you over and take away your rights. (Mostly through their Digital Restrictions Malware and App StoresDec 01 23:00
DaemonFC)Dec 01 23:00
DaemonFCThankfully, there are other choices. I choose Fedora GNU/Linux on my desktop, and Android on my mobile devices.Dec 01 23:01
DaemonFCIf you're willing to give up your freedoms, someone will always come along and take them. We found that out when there was a horrible attack against the American people in 2001, in which the politicians got together and passed the U SAP AT RIOT ACT.Dec 01 23:01
DaemonFC2 seconds agoDec 01 23:07
DaemonFCSome people have asked me whether I really approve of Obamacare or not.Dec 01 23:07
DaemonFCThe answer: It's a mixed bag.Dec 01 23:07
DaemonFCIt has some limited positive market-based reforms, which are more than paid for by the individual mandate.Dec 01 23:07
DaemonFCIt mostly leaves in place the health insurance criminals, and their business model, and guarantees that they will make more money for providing no care, and skimming money off the top for themselves.Dec 01 23:08
DaemonFCIt moderately improves Medicare, by reigning in the Part C and D costs. It should have eliminated Part C and cut the insurance companies out of Part D, and reduced the prescription drug reimbursement rate more than it did.Dec 01 23:08
DaemonFCIt does offer Medicaid to poor people, but the Republican governors would rather let poor people die than accept billions of dollars from the federal government to expand Medicaid, so half the states will leave the poor to die.Dec 01 23:08
DaemonFCIt's basically the same plan that Richard Nixon, the Heritage Foundation, and Mitt Romney were pitching not so very long ago.Dec 01 23:08
DaemonFCIt was stripped of the Public Option, a Medicare-like system that people could have opted-into.Dec 01 23:08
DaemonFCAnd, it will leave 37 million Americans without insurance.Dec 01 23:08
DaemonFCMore American people will still die every month from not having insurance than were killed on the September 11th attacks.Dec 01 23:08
DaemonFCAnd, one last thing. Bernie Sanders in 2016! Dec 01 23:08
MinceRColonel Sanders!Dec 01 23:11
DaemonFCMinceR: I think Senator Sanders would make a great president.Dec 01 23:11
DaemonFCI will vote for him in the Democratic primary.Dec 01 23:11
DaemonFCHe has a really long and consistent record as a true Progressive.Dec 01 23:12
DaemonFCAnd he's been fairly forceful and outspoken about it.Dec 01 23:12
DaemonFCThen again, so was Obama, for a while.Dec 01 23:12
DaemonFCExactly as long as it took him to become President and turn into a moderate Republican.Dec 01 23:12
DaemonFCBut, I still think that Sanders is the best thing that could come out of the Democratic Primary.Dec 01 23:12
DaemonFCThe only other option is going to be Hillary Clinton.Dec 01 23:13
MinceRwhich would be HillariousDec 01 23:13
DaemonFCYeah. She's an Obama-style corporate Democrat.Dec 01 23:13
DaemonFCAnd she might even be further to the right than he is.Dec 01 23:13
DaemonFC26 seconds ago · EditedDec 01 23:17
DaemonFCHealthcare shouldn't be a market. It should be like a public utility.Dec 01 23:17
DaemonFCThe first thing that the doctor asks you in Canada is "What's wrong?".Dec 01 23:17
DaemonFCThe first thing the doctor asks you in America is "What kind of insurance do you have?", and if you answer none, it will be "Cash or credit?".Dec 01 23:17
DaemonFCIt's like that credit card commercial from back in the 1990s, where the dude flatlines in the ER, and they swipe his credit card and wait for the network to approve it before shocking him.Dec 01 23:17
DaemonFCThe hospital ER can't really do that because of EMTALA, but it's still this gigantic scam, where they inflate the cost 1,000% and then go after your wages, bank account, house, and car.Dec 01 23:17
DaemonFCIt's just another way for the rich to confiscate the wealth and real property of the poor and middle class.Dec 01 23:17
MinceReither is better than hungary, where any capable and/or interested doctors have already fled the countryDec 01 23:18
MinceRbecause all the governments thought the doctors will work for free.Dec 01 23:18
MinceR(also that maintaining healthcare also costs no money)Dec 01 23:18
MinceRalso, Colonel SandurzDec 01 23:22
DaemonFCMinceR: That's basically how Medicaid works.Dec 01 23:23
DaemonFCIt reimburses the doctors like $10-15 for a visit, and as little as $4 for a well-child checkup.Dec 01 23:23
DaemonFCSo you have all these benefits that no doctor will accept.Dec 01 23:23
MinceRalso, i mixed the latter up with President SkroobDec 01 23:23
DaemonFCThe only thing that Medicaid is really good for is if you also have Medicare.Dec 01 23:23
DaemonFCThen it pays your Medicare premium.Dec 01 23:24
DaemonFCMedicaid is basically sham insurance. You're technically insured, but maybe 1 in 100 doctors will take it.Dec 01 23:24
DaemonFCAnd the ones that do are crooked or terrible.Dec 01 23:24
MinceRicDec 01 23:25
DaemonFCAn ex of mine had Medicaid. The dentist drilled and filled four teeth.Dec 01 23:25
DaemonFCHe had ONE cavity.Dec 01 23:25
MinceRoh, also, dental care is practically uncovered in hungaryDec 01 23:25
DaemonFCThat's the kind of doctor that takes Medicaid.Dec 01 23:25
MinceRmaybe they'll pay for having your teeth taken out, but that's about itDec 01 23:25
MinceReverything else you have to pay for in full.Dec 01 23:25
DaemonFCYeah. There's this guy I know that bought an iPhone and then had the dentist extract a tooth that was salvageable.Dec 01 23:26
DaemonFCThe iPhone cost him hundreds of dollars, and a filling would have been maybe $200 if he self-paid.Dec 01 23:27
DaemonFCNot the sharpest tool in the shed.Dec 01 23:27
DaemonFC:)Dec 01 23:27
MinceRwell, hypePhone buyers never areDec 01 23:27
DaemonFCI'd have saved the tooth. Fuck the phone.Dec 01 23:27
DaemonFCBut, I'm also not an idiot.Dec 01 23:27
DaemonFCB-)Dec 01 23:27
MinceRdon't fuck the phone, you'll get glass shards in your dick.Dec 01 23:27
DaemonFCLOLDec 01 23:27
DaemonFCGorilla Glass.Dec 01 23:27
DaemonFCThe stuff that implies it doesn't get scratched or break, and then it does.Dec 01 23:27
MinceRand then suppor will say "you're holding it wrong."Dec 01 23:27
MinceRs/por/port/Dec 01 23:28
DaemonFCMy brother said some kid in his high school was bragging about the Gorilla Glass on his iPhone.Dec 01 23:28
DaemonFCSo he intentionally threw it on the ground, and the screen shattered.Dec 01 23:28
MinceRlolDec 01 23:28
DaemonFCbrb, out to get dinner :)Dec 01 23:28
MinceR"i'm sorry to disappoint you, but almost any kind of glass can do that!"Dec 01 23:28
DaemonFCI got a coupon for a breaded cheeseburger, fries, and large drink for $4.99 at the Huggy Bear. B-)Dec 01 23:28
MinceR:)Dec 01 23:29
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DaemonFCI had to report a porn spammer that was linking to Windows malware to Facebook three times before they finally removed the account.Dec 02 00:19
DaemonFCThe first two times, they said they reviewed the account and couldn't find any Facebook Terms of Service violations.Dec 02 00:19
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Sosumihttp://yro.slashdot.org/story/13/12/01/1948257/bitcoin-thefts-surge-ddos-hackers-take-millions?utm_source=slashdot&utm_medium=twitterDec 02 00:55
TechrightsBot-tryro.slashdot.org | Bitcoin Thefts Surge, DDoS Hackers Take Millions - Slashdot  [ http://ur1.ca/g4o1n ]Dec 02 00:55
Sosumionline wallets should be a big noDec 02 00:56
Sosumialso protests is ukraine for EU membership are sounding more and more like some kind of Soros backed colour revolutionDec 02 00:56
Sosumiwhy bother with a synching ship? stay independent and play both sidesDec 02 00:57
Sosumiand that is strike a balance between russia and EU relationsDec 02 00:57
Sosumithe buttplug pro seems that it'll be released around this tuesdayDec 02 00:58
Sosumilet's see how much carpple asks for their underpowered *cough* pcDec 02 00:58
Sosumiand yes I'm still suspended on macrumors.comDec 02 00:59
Sosumifor the iPhone dude with the cavityDec 02 01:13
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Sosumia fool and his money are soon partedDec 02 01:13
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DaemonFCshared Mother Jones's photo.Dec 02 01:36
DaemonFCI don't know why anyone would complain about pick/packing dildos. Is that any more physically demanding than pick/packing any other merchandise? It seems like the dildos probably weigh less than furniture. I am confused. Dec 02 01:36
DaemonFCshared Engadget's photo.Dec 02 01:39
DaemonFC10 seconds agoDec 02 01:39
DaemonFChttp://engt.co/1b9uqVODec 02 01:39
TechrightsBot-trwww.engadget.com | Amazon unveils Prime Air drones on 60 minutes, aims to deliver in half an hour (video)Dec 02 01:39
DaemonFCInstead of Hellfire missiles, they can just strap a rocket motor onto the back of all the dildos that people order from Amazon and fire them into the house.Dec 02 01:39
DaemonFC Tango Down! Tango Down!Dec 02 01:40
DaemonFCAmazon has some stuff that's just downright freaky, if you look closely enough.Dec 02 01:45
DaemonFCI saw a "shower enema" system the other day that made me stop and think about who would be stupid enough to insert a pressurized water line up their butt. Dec 02 01:45
DaemonFCFort Wayne Center for NonviolenceDec 02 01:49
DaemonFCHappy world AIDS! Dec 02 01:49
DaemonFCRyan Farmer Uhhhm, world AIDS is not a thing to be happy about. FAIL..Dec 02 01:49
DaemonFCThe browser situation on iOS is just kind of sad.Dec 02 04:41
DaemonFCEverything has to use the system Webkit, so nobody can make a better iOS browser than Apple can, so there's no point in installing other browsers.Dec 02 04:42
DaemonFCThey should be sued for that.Dec 02 04:42
DaemonFCshared a link via Human Rights Campaign.Dec 02 04:45
DaemonFC8 seconds agoDec 02 04:45
DaemonFCThey've been saying that the end of the HIV pandemic is near for as long as I can remember. The fact is that the threat is growing.Dec 02 04:45
DaemonFCFundamentalist Christians have replaced comprehensive sex ed, condom distribution, and needle-swap with abstinence-only programs, which are proven to leave an STD and unwanted pregnancy crisis in their wake.Dec 02 04:45
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SEEVTar"The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck, they'll be making vacuum-cleaners" last part of http://www.vanwensveen.nl/rants/microsoft/IhateMS_2.htmlDec 02 10:48
TechrightsBot-trwww.vanwensveen.nl | Why I hate Microsoft  [ http://ur1.ca/g4rs1 ]Dec 02 10:48
SEEVTarGood night :DDec 02 10:52
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*schestowitz is now known as schestowitzsDec 02 11:24
schestowitzshttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/3358608Dec 02 11:51
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Apple free to spy on its users – as are all!  http://www.itwire.com/your-it-news/mobility/62452-apple-free-to-spy-on-its-users-%E2%80%93-as-are-all #apple still widely used, amazingly enough...Dec 02 11:51
schestowitzs"Outrageous, but I think Apple fanboys won't mind anyway."Dec 02 11:51
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.itwire.com | Apple free to spy on its users – as are all!  [ http://ur1.ca/g4j9z ]Dec 02 11:51
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iophkhttp://torrentfreak.com/copyright-monopoly-disintegration-inevitable-as-it-only-takes-a-single-country-131201/Dec 02 12:46
TechrightsBot-trtorrentfreak.com | Copyright Monopoly Disintegration Inevitable As It Only Takes A Single Country | TorrentFreak  [ http://ur1.ca/g4sba ]Dec 02 12:46
iophkhttp://www.chart-track.co.uk/?i=1753&s=1111Dec 02 12:52
TechrightsBot-trwww.chart-track.co.uk | GFK Chart-Track: UK News: Record Breaking Launch For PS4  [ http://ur1.ca/g4sc3 ]Dec 02 12:52
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info_detailsis there anyone here to assist me with a patent discrimination case ?Dec 02 13:50
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Sosumias a noteDec 02 14:55
Sosumigatekeeper was introduced with Lion aka 10.7 and not 10.8Dec 02 14:55
MinceRwhat's gatekeeper?Dec 02 14:59
Sosumithat things that restricts what can be installed in OSXDec 02 15:04
Sosumiunless you disable the thingDec 02 15:04
Sosumior pay 99€Dec 02 15:04
Sosumifor a real dev certification with appleDec 02 15:04
SosumiI was just pointing out that it came one version earlierDec 02 15:05
MinceRfunDec 02 15:05
Sosumiit's crap to prevent the typical mactard from screwing the whole computerDec 02 15:06
Sosumiand try to lock them down to the appstoreDec 02 15:06
MinceRit comes pre-screwed anyway :>Dec 02 15:07
Sosumiit does, even if you bought a mac to have an unix like OS that can run almost all proprietary software windows doesDec 02 15:08
Sosumiyou're screwed with crappy gnu driversDec 02 15:08
Sosumi*gpuDec 02 15:08
Sosumithat only see updates when the new revision o the model comes, with a new gpuDec 02 15:09
Sosumi:PDec 02 15:09
Sosumior under clocked hardware at the same pricing of the equivalent normal pc versionDec 02 15:10
Sosumiso yes, screwed from the begginingDec 02 15:10
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blob_http://www.times-herald.com/local/550450-20130601CommonCoreKerfuffle-SQDec 02 16:44
TechrightsBot-trwww.times-herald.com | 'Common Core' opposed in Senoia - The Newnan Times-Herald  [ http://ur1.ca/g4tdc ]Dec 02 16:45
blob_The Gates foundation is behind Common Core.Dec 02 16:47
blob_The info is burried deep in the article. Dec 02 16:47
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iophk"There are also concerns about the longitudinal data system that goes  along with Common Core. The system is designed to collect up to 400 data  points on each child, which can include personally identifiable data,  she said. The data will be collected by a company called inBloom,  created by the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation."Dec 02 16:50
schestowitzsyeahDec 02 16:50
schestowitzsI covered thatDec 02 16:50
iophkYes.Dec 02 16:50
iophkBut local news picked up on it there.  I wonder if word is getting out.Dec 02 16:50
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schestowitzsyes, many picked it upDec 02 16:52
schestowitzswhich is an encouraging signDec 02 16:52
schestowitzsI think it is becoming permissible again to slam GatesDec 02 16:52
schestowitzsThere was a period like a grace period where his foundation didn't do quite as much evolDec 02 16:52
schestowitzsA bit like Google after 2007, I think, as RMS put it to meDec 02 16:52
schestowitzsI forgot which year he named, or maybe it was someone else who put a finger on itDec 02 16:53
MinceRhttp://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user3303/imageroot/2013/11/20131202_drone_0.jpgDec 02 17:23
schestowitzsjust got mail from RMS re Re: Manchester crypto-partyDec 02 17:27
schestowitzs"Dec 02 17:28
schestowitzs> Could you spread the word about Dec 02 17:28
schestowitzs> http://www.cryptoparty-mcr.org/?Dec 02 17:28
schestowitzsI already have. My wife and I signed up as attendants and I have tweeted about it, written about it in Disapora, etc. I often attend those same meetings in the same place (FSFE folks/Manchester Free Software). It's half a mile from my house.Dec 02 17:28
TechrightsBot-trwww.cryptoparty-mcr.org | Dec 02 17:28
schestowitzsBy the way, have you ever spoken to Asher Wolf? I think he's Australia and he is probably the (co)creator of such parties.Dec 02 17:28
schestowitzs'Dec 02 17:28
iophkYou might bring some installation media in case people are ready to ditch windows, if they are still on that.Dec 02 17:28
iophkIt's not much sense to run crypto on Windows.Dec 02 17:29
iophkBut some still run it anyway.Dec 02 17:29
schestowitzs"Dec 02 17:34
schestowitzs> [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider    ]]]Dec 02 17:34
schestowitzs> [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies,     ]]]Dec 02 17:34
schestowitzs> [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]]Dec 02 17:34
schestowitzs> Dec 02 17:34
schestowitzs> This time it was only your key.Dec 02 17:34
schestowitzsMy previous PGP exchanges with people were much simpler. Maybe they were doing it the wrong way.Dec 02 17:34
schestowitzs"Dec 02 17:34
schestowitzshttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/3361999Dec 02 17:35
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: RMS on Bitcoin http://youtu.be/RZ_3MKomQzYDec 02 17:35
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.youtube.com | Richard Stallman on good things and bad things about Bitcoin - YouTubeDec 02 17:35
schestowitzs"what is that 20 year old technology he speaks of? Chaum's e-cash? that was centralized"Dec 02 17:35
schestowitzshttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/3358771Dec 02 17:36
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: RT @JesselynRadack  Heard 3X: "#Snowden is prob feeling really  depressed. Do you think he's suicidal? [1/2]Dec 02 17:36
schestowitzs"The most depressing thing has got to be seeing so much bullshit and so little change. Talk about "suicidal" is very threatening."Dec 02 17:36
schestowitzsPrelude to suiciding a person.... think David Kelly.Dec 02 17:36
schestowitzs"How many since the year 2001 though ? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Soviet_and_Eastern_Bloc_defectors"Dec 02 17:36
TechrightsBot-tren.wikipedia.org | List of Soviet and Eastern Bloc defectors - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia  [ http://ur1.ca/g4tst ]Dec 02 17:36
schestowitzshttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/3362675Dec 02 18:12
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Describing someone famous as depressed or suicidal is often preparation for assassination or an attempt to drive a person into those states.Dec 02 18:12
schestowitzs"That is a worrying thought ........."Dec 02 18:12
schestowitzs"https://www.google.co.uk/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=assange+depressed&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&gws_rd=cr& Seems like people hunted down by the USA do get depressed at times though ...... I think anyone in that situation would"Dec 02 18:12
TechrightsBot-trwww.google.co.uk | assange depressed - Google Search  [ http://ur1.ca/g4u49 ]Dec 02 18:12
schestowitzsNo, it's a lie.  Assange and others refuted it.Dec 02 18:13
iophkIt's getting spread from somewhere.Dec 02 18:13
iophkthe lie that isDec 02 18:13
schestowitzsit'll help if he falls down the stairs and diesDec 02 18:20
schestowitzscan support one official theory, but of course stairs are a metaphor here (familuar one)Dec 02 18:21
schestowitzsIf he dies they can later link to these many 'planted' reportsDec 02 18:22
schestowitzswhile he's no longer alive to rebut theseDec 02 18:22
schestowitzshttp://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2013/11/lavabit-reply-brief/Dec 02 18:26
TechrightsBot-trwww.wired.com | Lavabit Strikes Back at Feds in Key Internet Privacy Case | Threat Level | Wired.com  [ http://ur1.ca/g4u8l ]Dec 02 18:27
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iophkhttp://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/dec/02/snowden-leak-tech-privacy-nsa-gchq-surveillanceDec 02 19:21
TechrightsBot-trwww.theguardian.com | How the Snowden leak is changing the tech landscape | World news | The Guardian  [ http://ur1.ca/g4ure ]Dec 02 19:21
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sebsebsebhiDec 02 20:22
sebsebsebiophk: MinceR msb_ openSUSEDec 02 20:22
msb_yes? ......Dec 02 20:23
msb_hi!Dec 02 20:23
sebsebsebmsb_: openSUSE loves iophk and MinceRDec 02 20:23
sebsebseband schestowitz_logDec 02 20:23
sebsebsebroy_: Dec 02 20:23
MinceRsebsebseb: calm downDec 02 20:23
msb_OpenSuse loves everyone!Dec 02 20:24
sebsebsebMinceR: heh hehDec 02 20:24
sebsebseboh yeah deifntly by the chat htey had yesterdayDec 02 20:24
sebsebseball the reasons they thought openSUSE should be used :dDec 02 20:24
MinceRopensuse hates your freedomDec 02 20:25
msb_A beautiful German girl gave me her Suse cap a decade ago at the West Coast Computer Faire.Dec 02 20:25
iophkhttp://www.infoworld.com/d/application-development/tech-boom-the-war-top-developer-talent-231709Dec 02 20:28
TechrightsBot-trwww.infoworld.com | Tech boom! The war for top developer talent | Application Development - InfoWorld  [ http://ur1.ca/g4vc8 ]Dec 02 20:28
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sebsebsebmsb_: back computer issuesDec 02 20:32
sebsebsebwhat was said after the cap bit?Dec 02 20:32
msb_???Dec 02 20:32
msb_I only said that now.Dec 02 20:32
msb_sebsebseb: I have to go to DMV to renew my license now.  But tonight or tomorrow I can extract the part of the log about this and send it to you.Dec 02 20:34
sebsebsebmsb_: about which?Dec 02 20:34
sebsebseband this channel  gets logged Dec 02 20:34
msb_The Suse discussion.Dec 02 20:35
msb_What did you want?Dec 02 20:35
msb_Right, you can get it from Roy too.Dec 02 20:35
sebsebsebmsb_: oh  for MinceR and iophk to  know your love for openSUSE and yo theirs heh hehDec 02 20:35
sebsebseband Roy'sDec 02 20:35
sebsebsebmsb_: no  it's just they really don't like openSUSE around hereDec 02 20:35
sebsebsebquite a few of htemDec 02 20:36
sebsebseband now I have to deal with it for an eventDec 02 20:36
iophkhttp://trisquel.info/Dec 02 20:36
TechrightsBot-trtrisquel.info | Trisquel GNU/Linux - Run free!Dec 02 20:36
sebsebsebsince my distro and GNOME 3 got out votedDec 02 20:36
sebsebseb,but openSUSE do have some quite nice merchnadice that's for sureDec 02 20:36
msb_They still have KDE3, and now have Ruby 2.0!Dec 02 20:36
msb_THey;ve rewritten the admin program, yast, in Ruiby!Dec 02 20:37
sebsebsebno openSUSE is using KDE 4 nowDec 02 20:37
sebsebsebas far as I knowDec 02 20:37
sebsebsebor do you  mean KDE 3 is in the repo's as well?Dec 02 20:37
msb_They have both.Dec 02 20:37
sebsebsebohDec 02 20:38
sebsebsebyou sure it's not Trinity project?Dec 02 20:38
msb_nopeDec 02 20:38
sebsebsebthe KDE 3 forkDec 02 20:38
msb_it's notDec 02 20:38
sebsebsebohDec 02 20:38
sebsebsebiophk: MinceR msb_ so if soeone buys from openSUSE online hsopDec 02 20:39
sebsebsebthey indirecty support Microsoft apparnatly?Dec 02 20:39
msb_To some tiny degree.  Insignificant compared to Windows revenue.Dec 02 20:40
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msb_But I just use the free one.Dec 02 20:40
msb_Anyhow, good luck with it.  Their IRC help is excellent.Dec 02 20:41
msb_Sorry, I gotta go.Dec 02 20:41
msb_See ya later!Dec 02 20:42
MinceRsebsebseb: indeed.Dec 02 20:43
MinceRsebsebseb: also if they advertise [open]suse.Dec 02 20:43
msb_BTW, the current latest version, 13.1 is a long-term support revolving update (Whatever that's called) one.Dec 02 20:44
sebsebsebMinceR: well that event is going to advertise openSUSE to an extent now hmmDec 02 20:44
sebsebsebmsb_: ohDec 02 20:44
sebsebsebhow long supported for?Dec 02 20:45
msb_3 years maybe.  I think it's in this good article:  http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/11/27/review_opensuse_13_1/Dec 02 20:45
TechrightsBot-trwww.theregister.co.uk | OpenSUSE 13.1: Oh look, a Linux with YOU in mind (and 64-bit ARMs) • The Register  [ http://ur1.ca/g4l1u ]Dec 02 20:45
msb_Also tells how to get Nvidia support which isn't in the repo yet.Dec 02 20:46
msb_In the comments.Dec 02 20:46
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msb_OK, byebye.  Have a lot of fun!Dec 02 20:47
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Sosumihttp://slashdot.org/topic/datacenter/d-link-closes-backdoor-on-some-home-routers/Dec 03 00:34
TechrightsBot-trslashdot.org | D-Link Closes Backdoor on Some Home Routers  [ http://ur1.ca/g4wst ]Dec 03 00:34
Sosumicisco should do the sameDec 03 00:35
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msb_sebsebseb: Hi, I'm back!  What are you going to use OpenSuse for?Dec 03 04:04
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DaemonFCI'm in here using my phone. Very coolDec 03 06:18
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*MinceR wonders what exactly an "HTML connection" isDec 03 07:00
Snowleaksangeweb designer friend?Dec 03 07:09
MinceR:>Dec 03 07:11
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schestowitzsMinceR: http connection would be funnierDec 03 07:45
MinceRit would have been correctDec 03 07:45
MinceRbut it's slashdotDec 03 07:45
DaemonFCDid I miss something?Dec 03 07:45
schestowitzsas in, I met this girl, we had a good http connection but when I met her in person she was kind of like UDP, I couldn't reach out to herDec 03 07:46
MinceRDaemonFC: http://slashdot.org/topic/datacenter/d-link-closes-backdoor-on-some-home-routers/Dec 03 07:46
MinceRDaemonFC: 080033  * MinceR wonders what exactly an "HTML connection" isDec 03 07:46
schestowitzsrouter made in China, back door made in USADec 03 07:47
DaemonFCShouldn't the joke be something more like I reached out to her but didn't get a reply?Dec 03 07:47
DaemonFCThe best part about UDP jokes is that I don't care if you get them.Dec 03 07:48
DaemonFC  I don't know why Android browser is still includedDec 03 07:51
DaemonFC the phone came with Chrome for AndroidDec 03 07:51
MinceRprobably because the android browser is a part of the platformDec 03 07:53
MinceRand chrome isn'tDec 03 07:53
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iophkEverything except removing the actual problem: software and business method patentsDec 03 09:20
iophkhttp://opensource.com/law/13/12/law-professors-against-abusive-patent-litigationDec 03 09:20
TechrightsBot-tropensource.com | 60 professors support legislative patent reform | opensource.com  [ http://ur1.ca/g4yzm ]Dec 03 09:20
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MinceRgeekingsDec 03 09:34
iophkold - http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2427351,00.aspDec 03 09:41
TechrightsBot-trwww.pcmag.com | For America's Sake, Don't Shop on Thanksgiving | News & Opinion  | PCMag.com  [ http://ur1.ca/g4z44 ]Dec 03 09:41
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/3363014Dec 03 10:17
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Roy Trumbull has died http://boingboing.net/2013/12/02/rip-roy-trumbull-happy-mutan.html hard to find young RoysDec 03 10:17
TechrightsBot-tr-> boingboing.net | RIP, Roy Trumbull: happy mutant, TV/radio engineering legend, podcaster - Boing Boing  [ http://ur1.ca/g4u5q ]Dec 03 10:17
schestowitz"Sad day."Dec 03 10:17
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/3362973Dec 03 10:17
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Software activist calls for 'truly anonymous' Bitcoins to 'protect democracy' http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/news/10488201/Software-activist-calls-for-truly-anonymous-Bitcoins-to-protect-democracy.html #rms #gnu #fsf #bitcoinDec 03 10:17
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.telegraph.co.uk | Software activist calls for 'truly anonymous' Bitcoins to 'protect democracy' - Telegraph  [ http://ur1.ca/g4zbe ]Dec 03 10:17
schestowitz"Fraud is less important than anonymity because money you can't use is pointless."Dec 03 10:17
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/3362966Dec 03 10:18
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Stallman: #Microsoft #Facebook Spying for US Government http://www.hispanicbusiness.com/2013/12/1/stallman_microsoft_facebook_spying_for_us.htm of course they do, eagerly http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Microsoft_and_the_NSADec 03 10:18
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.hispanicbusiness.com | Stallman: Microsoft, Facebook Spying for US Government - HispanicBusiness.com  [ http://ur1.ca/g4zbn ]Dec 03 10:18
TechrightsBot-tr-> techrights.org | Microsoft and the NSA - Techrights  [ http://ur1.ca/g1zod ]Dec 03 10:18
schestowitz"Facebook and Microsoft <a href="http://173.20.223.180/photoalbum/chron/2013/20131202-copyrightpropaganda/">shoved are forced on my daughter' by the Copyright propaganda machine</a>. "Dec 03 10:19
TechrightsBot-tr ( status 404 @ http://173.20.223.180/photoalbum/chron/2013/20131202-copyrightpropaganda/ )Dec 03 10:19
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/3362472Dec 03 10:19
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Facebook Needs To Learn It Can't Teach Tolerance By Acting As An Overzealous Censor http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20131127/22113225398/facebook-needs-to-learn-it-cant-teach-tolerance-acting-as-overzealous-censor.shtml #facebook #censorshipDec 03 10:19
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.techdirt.com | Facebook Needs To Learn It Can't Teach Tolerance By Acting As An Overzealous Censor | Techdirt  [ http://ur1.ca/g4zbw ]Dec 03 10:19
schestowitz"It's not about tolerance, it's about censorship, surveillance and control."Dec 03 10:19
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/3362389Dec 03 10:20
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #BBC is #torture to watch  (and defends torture) but good education about how general population gets indoctrinated here in the #ukDec 03 10:20
schestowitz"Is it becoming like Fox News?"Dec 03 10:20
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schestowitziophk: Yes, I saw thatDec 03 11:02
schestowitzTiller is part of the problemDec 03 11:02
iophkAll those that write but dodge the question of software patents themselves just feed the problem.Dec 03 11:03
iophkI'm disappointed that some choose not to look for the base cause and buy into the PR from the lawyers.Dec 03 11:03
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/407827777015275520 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/407827956552441856Dec 03 11:06
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: Terms like "cyber criminal" try to ascribe to online activity the same severity in punishment and seriousness that physical crimes inflictDec 03 11:06
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: Happiness through sharing https://t.co/4XV98R6APtDec 03 11:06
schestowitziophk: Today is my day off, I had this and lots more in my drafts for a while Dec 03 11:07
iophkniceDec 03 11:07
schestowitzI took holiday/vacation from work 9-18 dec IIRC, so plenty of room for catching up thereDec 03 11:07
schestowitzProbably start editing RMS videos at that timeDec 03 11:08
schestowitzBeen setting up the Huawei campaign siteDec 03 11:08
schestowitzand also some goverment sites, UK ombudsman, oxforshire council....Dec 03 11:08
iophkWill the Drupal get worked on?  It's pretty hard to find the posts when coming from the start page.  I use the RSS feed now to find them but even that was hard to find.Dec 03 11:08
schestowitzpeople who come to the front page might not look for latest news anywayDec 03 11:09
schestowitzbut general infoDec 03 11:09
schestowitzpeople who come for news get through to the blogDec 03 11:09
schestowitzor the wikiDec 03 11:09
schestowitzwhich is more timelessDec 03 11:09
schestowitzsomeone told me to study and address the need to educare newcomers some years backDec 03 11:10
schestowitzif people ask me what this site is, I give them this addressDec 03 11:10
schestowitzand they have a good place to startDec 03 11:10
iophkyes it's a good start, but I think the blog is worth highlighting.Dec 03 11:10
schestowitzand better presented, not too much text and no need to have advance knowledge like who's Elop, what's FOSS...Dec 03 11:10
schestowitziophk: I think you can edit the Drupal partDec 03 11:11
schestowitzbrb wife made breakfastDec 03 11:11
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/407832902593179648Dec 03 11:36
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: #natwest Windows-based online banking site offline last night. No wonder they went bankrupt&stole Brits' money (bailout). I'm leaving them.Dec 03 11:36
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/3365584Dec 03 11:38
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: RMS says that using #twitter is OK because of several reasons including no requirements like non-free JS. Will edit and publish video soon.Dec 03 11:38
schestowitz"'non-free JS'? what is JS?"Dec 03 11:38
schestowitzJavaScriptDec 03 11:38
schestowitz"JS = Javascript"Dec 03 11:39
schestowitzsomeone beat me to itDec 03 11:39
iophkI though Twitter closed its APIs recently.Dec 03 11:43
iophk*thoughtDec 03 11:43
vinzvTwitter is okay for RMS?Dec 03 11:47
vinzvI find that disturbingDec 03 11:47
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/407837352292515840 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/407837686444326912  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/407837872935665664Dec 03 11:48
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: #US #propaganda tries to portray only non-US allies as having economic disparity between top and bottom http://t.co/IAMxvu4CBNDec 03 11:48
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.huffingtonpost.com | The Richest World Leaders Are Even Richer Than You ThoughtDec 03 11:48
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: Let's all listen to Bloomberg (worth billions), Forbes and the rest of the gang of plutocrats/leaders when they talk about disparity.Dec 03 11:48
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: 'Our' plutocrats are "generous" "successful" "philanthropists", 'theirs' are "greedy" "tyrants".Dec 03 11:48
schestowitzvinzv: or surprising, to me at leastDec 03 11:49
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/40784091519438438Dec 03 11:57
TechrightsBot-trNo message foundDec 03 11:57
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/407840915194384384Dec 03 11:57
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: "Mayor of New York City... net worth of $31" https://t.co/a2ipwIX1Pn "Forbes.. Fox TV show Forbes on Fox [Murdoch]" https://t.co/OJjE3LPB93Dec 03 11:57
TechrightsBot-tr-> en.wikipedia.org | Michael Bloomberg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaDec 03 11:57
TechrightsBot-tr-> en.wikipedia.org | Forbes - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaDec 03 11:57
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/407845146894815233  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/407845629508206592  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/407845972832964608  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/407846978224418816Dec 03 12:41
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: Fox 'news' is brain damage http://t.co/GMBg5gBryr no comment needed. #bush #biggovernment #propaganda #spin #prDec 03 12:41
TechrightsBot-tr-> mediamatters.org | Fox & Friends: Obama's America Is "The Land Of Man-Children" | Video | Media Matters for AmericaDec 03 12:41
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: Fox/Murdoch: Obamacare as a 'Big Government' Failure http://t.co/56LM2OSsnf #murdoch #fox #obama #gopDec 03 12:41
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.fair.org | Obamacare as a 'Big Government' FailureDec 03 12:41
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: GMO Trees Threaten Global Forests http://t.co/vu1WXUPsFX #gmo #natureDec 03 12:41
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.projectcensored.org | GMO Trees Threaten Global Forests – Validated Independent NewsDec 03 12:41
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: Switzerland Launches Criminal Probe Into NSA Surveillance http://t.co/v8eRcQnHBC coming from the country that shelters financial criminalsDec 03 12:41
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.techweekeurope.co.uk | Switzerland Launches Criminal Probe Into NSA SurveillanceDec 03 12:41
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/407847232143392768  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/407847483877097472 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/407848264554532864 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/407848431961784321   https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/407848969642180608Dec 03 12:41
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: UN: promotes #censorship but opposes #surveillance or so it would seem http://t.co/TFvgZWQTAsDec 03 12:41
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.projectcensored.org | NSA Spying Challenged in the United Nations – Validated Independent NewsDec 03 12:41
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: NSA finds it hard ti make its staff "follow orders" "from above"  http://t.co/gPiJ2WSipf http://t.co/84nwoiDFILDec 03 12:41
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.theguardian.com | NSA employees given talking points for discussing agency with family | World news | theguardian.comDec 03 12:41
TechrightsBot-tr-> gizmodo.com | The NSA's Thanksgiving Dinner Talking Points: A Play in One ActDec 03 12:41
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: The domestic #surveillance state of #india needs to tell US to stop foreign #surveillance according to this pundit http://t.co/229JZe4IaQDec 03 12:41
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.hindustantimes.com | Waiting for Greenwald: why India must react firmly to NSA spying - Hindustan TimesDec 03 12:41
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: New ways to discredit #greenwald http://t.co/XlEEd8jJ7k I saw the same smears used against #assangeDec 03 12:41
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.truthdig.com | Greenwald: Privatized Reporting Claims Are Absurd - TruthdigDec 03 12:41
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: NSA- and CIA-run #drone assassinations: 'There were pieces of my family all over the road' http://t.co/byzzjcMQimDec 03 12:41
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.dailymail.co.uk | Afghan citizen describes seeing relative's burning bodies after deadly U.S. drone strike  | Mail OnlineDec 03 12:41
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/407849961028861952  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/407850871322836992  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/407851268875776000  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/407851447448248320Dec 03 12:42
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: President Obama’s immoral drone war http://t.co/UkWbNrfr5n under "Opinion" in Bezos Post (Amazon likes drones)Dec 03 12:42
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.washingtonpost.com | Eugene Robinson: President Obama’s immoral drone war - The Washington PostDec 03 12:42
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: #Yemen #drone assassinations: BIJ "estimates has resulted in between 21 and 56 civilian deaths" http://t.co/iXc1xp1cKhDec 03 12:42
TechrightsBot-tr-> world.time.com | Yemen’s New Ways of Protesting Drone Strikes: Graffiti and Poetry | TIME.comDec 03 12:42
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: Western press: it's "horrific" when white people die & "effective" when Arabs die. Leaning the language of drones coverage by reading lots.Dec 03 12:42
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: Western press: children are "human shields" and adults are "militants" because they are old enough to join a military.Dec 03 12:42
vinzvschestowitz: suprisingly, of course. wouldn't have thought twitter is fine for RMS only if JS problems are fixed,Dec 03 12:57
schestowitzvinzv: he thought it was harmless to be using also cause anon accounts are possibleDec 03 13:26
schestowitzhe didn't debate whether twitter fighting USDOj subpoenas and informing victims was a good thingDec 03 13:27
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vinzvschestowitz: thats a good point for sure. though I'd disagree with him in general, as twitter's TOS give the huge power over user's content.Dec 03 13:38
vinzvsee: http://tosdr.org/#twitterDec 03 13:40
TechrightsBot-trtosdr.org | Terms of Service; Didn&apos;t ReadDec 03 13:40
iophkhttp://www.techhive.com/article/2068180/selfdriving-cars-to-hit-swedish-public-roads.htmlDec 03 13:41
TechrightsBot-trwww.techhive.com | Self-driving cars to hit Swedish public roads | TechHive  [ http://ur1.ca/g50am ]Dec 03 13:41
iophkI can see a lot going wrong with that, especially during transition between automatic and driver controlled.Dec 03 13:42
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schestowitzhttps://www.google.co.uk/search?q=stallman+fashion+line&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=vO6dUvS5I9CThQf43YGQBA&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=1025&bih=500Dec 03 14:46
TechrightsBot-trwww.google.co.uk | stallman fashion line - Google Search  [ http://ur1.ca/g50mq ]Dec 03 14:46
schestowitzhttp://stallman.org/Dec 03 14:46
schestowitz" Here's an April Fool about me. I don't know who wrote it, but I think it's funny. "Dec 03 14:46
TechrightsBot-trstallman.org | Richard Stallman's Personal PageDec 03 14:46
schestowitzThe original site is gone from the WebDec 03 14:47
schestowitzGoogle cache alsoDec 03 14:47
schestowitzhttp://www.google.co.uk/imgres?sa=X&biw=1025&bih=500&tbm=isch&tbnid=5HBFstsqe4oAYM:&imgrefurl=https://plus.google.com/116540706756894914596/posts/azPXKX1SiKR&docid=hcc5ggPXGv2kbM&itg=1&imgurl=https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-q5qNCzZZUcI/T3jhtk4WUXI/AAAAAAAABC4/IgFI3jg-BU8/w506-h380/88Jgz.jpeg&w=506&h=379&ei=vu6dUvOiIpKJhQfVuICoBQ&zoom=1&ved=1t:3588,r:1,s:0,i:86&iact=rc&page=1&tbnh=176&tbnw=227&start=0&ndsp=9&tx=115&ty=26Dec 03 14:47
TechrightsBot-trwww.google.co.uk | Google Image Result for https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-q5qNCzZZUcI/T3jhtk4WUXI/AAAAAAAABC4/IgFI3jg-BU8/w506-h380/88Jgz.jpeg  [ http://ur1.ca/g50mt ]Dec 03 14:47
schestowitzThis is why we need more copyinfDec 03 14:47
schestowitzwith attrib.Dec 03 14:47
schestowitzhttp://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/4/2011/10/richard-stallman-quote.jpgDec 03 14:47
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/407863266917253120  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/407870053699579904   https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/407874754461593600Dec 03 15:54
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: Anti-GNU/Linux Campaigns Are Not Left Behind at Microsoft, Only the Brands Change  http://t.co/SEdIYmtsAu #gnu #linux #chromebookDec 03 15:54
TechrightsBot-tr-> techrights.org | Anti-GNU/Linux Campaigns Are Not Left Behind at Microsoft, Only the Brands Change | TechrightsDec 03 15:54
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: Culture of Violence a Disservice to National Security  http://t.co/HkaztFz5ix caution: a bit graphicalDec 03 15:54
TechrightsBot-tr-> techrights.org | Culture of Violence a Disservice to National Security | TechrightsDec 03 15:54
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: Bill Gates Brings NSA-esque Surveillance to Children  http://t.co/bw0MiZiAfq #billgates #surveillance #nsaDec 03 15:54
TechrightsBot-tr-> techrights.org | Bill Gates Brings NSA-esque Surveillance to Children | TechrightsDec 03 15:54
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/407880072834842624  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/407888857351585792  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/407898209475133440Dec 03 15:54
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: Reminder to Corporate Press: PHP is Not Linux  http://t.co/fsxcOiI1B1 #php #linux #symantecDec 03 15:54
TechrightsBot-tr-> techrights.org | Reminder to Corporate Press: PHP is Not Linux | TechrightsDec 03 15:54
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: GNU is Not Linux: Richard Stallman Explains the Origins of GNU http://t.co/Bb3yiRFYoO #gnu #linux #freedomDec 03 15:55
TechrightsBot-tr-> techrights.org | GNU is Not Linux: Richard Stallman Explains the Origins of GNU | TechrightsDec 03 15:55
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: Apple and Microsoft Claim Patent Tax on GNU/Linux, Red Hat’s Response Too Weak http://t.co/4bbovd0um8 #swpatsDec 03 15:55
TechrightsBot-tr-> techrights.org | Apple and Microsoft Claim Patent Tax on GNU/Linux, Red Hat’s Response Too Weak | TechrightsDec 03 15:55
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/3362861Dec 03 15:56
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Sad day for #freespeech : German Court Tells #Wikimedia Foundation That It's Liable For Things Users Write http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20131201/00541725412/german-court-tells-wikimedia-foundation-that-its-liable-things-users-write.shtmlDec 03 15:56
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.techdirt.com | German Court Tells Wikimedia Foundation That It's Liable For Things Users Write | Techdirt  [ http://ur1.ca/g50ys ]Dec 03 15:56
schestowitz"This is completely stupid. Wikipedia must pull out of Germany."Dec 03 15:56
schestowitz"But Germany is not alone. The UK, France, and virtually every other nation in Europe censors speech to an extend unthinkable in the US."Dec 03 15:57
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/3366367Dec 03 15:57
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Bill Gates Brings NSA-esque Surveillance to ChildrenDec 03 15:57
schestowitz"inBloom, Stacked Ranking, Microsoft pushing. Spying, oppressing and sucking money."Dec 03 15:57
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/336604Dec 03 15:58
TechrightsBot-tr@deadsuperhero@joindiaspora.com: Hmm, relevant way to start off the morning. http://mashable.com/2011/07/13/internet-freedom-movement/Dec 03 15:58
TechrightsBot-tr-> mashable.com | Do We Need an Internet Freedom Movement?  [ http://ur1.ca/g50z0 ]Dec 03 15:58
schestowitz"?Spying makes it hard to shield tax dodgers. Maybe they value privacy more than they fear private fraud."Dec 03 15:58
schestowitzThat's just what I thought and it's always what I think when Switzerland claims to "champion" privacy.Dec 03 15:58
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/407902148979359744Dec 03 16:02
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: High five https://t.co/1Zbo8e5mBpDec 03 16:02
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/3365589Dec 03 16:07
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Terms like "cyber criminal" try to ascribe to online activity the same severity in punishment and seriousness that physical crimes inflictDec 03 16:07
schestowitz"These negative terms are applied to the same action done by a company or government agent. Violating your private papers and conversations is called "sharing" and it's done for your "security". Double talk."Dec 03 16:08
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/3365584Dec 03 16:08
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: RMS says that using #twitter is OK because of several reasons including no requirements like non-free JS. Will edit and publish video soon.Dec 03 16:08
schestowitzhttp://www.gnu.org/philosophy/javascript-trap.htmlDec 03 16:08
TechrightsBot-trwww.gnu.org | The JavaScript Trap  [ http://ur1.ca/2npz ]Dec 03 16:08
schestowitzhttp://www.projectcensored.org/worker-safety-consultant-firms-help-ceos-listen-workers/Dec 03 16:13
TechrightsBot-trwww.projectcensored.org | Worker Safety Consultant Firms Help CEOs Listen to Workers – Validated Independent News  [ http://ur1.ca/g511a ]Dec 03 16:13
schestowitz"After all the negative international press that Apple suffered, when 150 workers at one of its Chinese sub-contractor’s factories threatened to commit suicide because of working conditions, many companies are looking for better ways to gather information about working conditions. For years, companies trying to assess their supply chains for human rights abuses have relied on third-party audits to monitor factories. Typically, Dec 03 16:13
schestowitztrained monitors conduct physical inspections and interview workers at the jobsite. Samir Goswami of YES! Magazine reports on a new trend, where CEOs hear directly from workers."Dec 03 16:13
schestowitzhttp://www.yesmagazine.org/issues/the-human-cost-of-stuff/for-safer-factories-a-direct-line-to-the-ceoDec 03 16:15
TechrightsBot-trwww.yesmagazine.org | For Safer Factories, CEOs Are Listening to Workers on the Frontlines by Samir Goswami — YES! Magazine  [ http://ur1.ca/g511e ]Dec 03 16:15
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/3365584Dec 03 17:34
schestowitz"I want to see that video, thanks!"Dec 03 17:34
schestowitz"So now everyone goes away from #diaspora because #twitter has been accepted? ;)"Dec 03 17:34
schestowitz"@Beta Idoru Never!"Dec 03 17:34
schestowitzhe wasn't endorsing it, just not rejecting itDec 03 17:35
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/3362973Dec 03 17:35
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Software activist calls for 'truly anonymous' Bitcoins to 'protect democracy' http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/news/10488201/Software-activist-calls-for-truly-anonymous-Bitcoins-to-protect-democracy.html #rms #gnu #fsf #bitcoinDec 03 17:35
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.telegraph.co.uk | Software activist calls for 'truly anonymous' Bitcoins to 'protect democracy' - Telegraph  [ http://ur1.ca/g4zbe ]Dec 03 17:35
schestowitz"I'm all for a truly anonymous cryptocurrency, but how do you do it?"Dec 03 17:35
schestowitzJust got this from FFII:Dec 03 17:39
schestowitz> fyi,Dec 03 17:39
schestowitz> EFF calls on US citizens to contact their representative in support of aDec 03 17:39
schestowitz> bill against patent trollsDec 03 17:39
schestowitzWhen will the EFF speak about software patents again?Dec 03 17:39
schestowitzCorporations have turned the fight against software patents into a sidekick show.Dec 03 17:39
schestowitzEFF's efforts on this are now funded by Mark Cuban and others whose chosen lawyers only speak about 'bad' patents and 'trolls' (the small ones, not the big ones). It's the agenda of corporations and billionaires; what they want banned is their competition.Dec 03 17:39
schestowitzCuban spoke out against software patents, but at the same time he is investing in a massive patent troll, Vringo.Dec 03 17:39
schestowitzThe EFF needs to aim higher.Dec 03 17:39
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/407902844894081024 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/407904139424059392 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/407905217414696960 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/407906259351113728Dec 03 17:42
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: Build Your Own Simple Linux Banking Tool http://t.co/ej9k30DOXO #linux #banking #gnuDec 03 17:42
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.linuxinsider.com | Build Your Own Simple Linux Banking Tool | Software | LinuxInsiderDec 03 17:42
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: "Violating your private papers and conversations is called "sharing" and it's done for your "security". Double talk." -Will HillDec 03 17:42
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: "Jones touches on the process involved with the military and how they cover up the deaths of soldiers" http://t.co/YKFLtdXcNGDec 03 17:42
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.projectcensored.org | Awfulness of Handling the Dead and Wounded GIs from the Afghan War – Validated Independent NewsDec 03 17:42
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: Corporate press -- speaking on behalf of tax-dodging corporations -- is trying to push everyone to the right http://t.co/cVIPuQKVoQDec 03 17:42
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.fair.org | Washington Post: The Problem With PopulismDec 03 17:42
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/407928728699027456Dec 03 17:49
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: Guardian will not be intimidated over NSA leaks, Alan Rusbridger tells MPs http://t.co/jjI0z6VoTj says Guardian, self promotionDec 03 17:49
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.theguardian.com | Guardian will not be intimidated over NSA leaks, Alan Rusbridger tells MPs | World news | theguardian.comDec 03 17:49
Sosumiand I was looking at things right now in the cuda departmentDec 03 17:55
Sosumiand there's still no support for redhat 6.5Dec 03 17:55
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Sosuminor fedora 19 supportDec 03 17:55
Sosumibut meanwhile nvidia is quite fast to churn out updated versions for the newest version of windows and osxDec 03 17:56
Sosumiand I've, finally, received today Norbert Wiener's God and Golem, which I bought in second hand on amazonDec 03 18:09
Sosumionly to discover that the book appears to have been stolen from a certain Ohlone College LibraryDec 03 18:10
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/407934468402724865  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/407934186092507137 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/407933091999940608  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/407932348538585088Dec 03 18:11
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: Heads of state and lesser diplomats are lobbying nations for deals with #nsa darlings. "Take that Trojan horse" http://t.co/p4SLdrR29ZDec 03 18:11
TechrightsBot-tr-> techrights.org | Cablegate - TechrightsDec 03 18:11
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: The darlings of #nsa spying (yes, #Microsoft included  http://t.co/fug0FsaCh0 ) receive state subsidies through gov contractsDec 03 18:11
TechrightsBot-tr-> techrights.org | Microsoft and the NSA - TechrightsDec 03 18:11
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: Ciscos are a species of fish. So the slippery company that was created out of violations is now in our walls and back end router/server roomDec 03 18:11
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: "Cisco's first product...consisted of exact replicas of Stanford's "Blue Box" router and a stolen copy" https://t.co/y8JBxfnN6T #ciscoDec 03 18:11
TechrightsBot-tr-> en.wikipedia.org | Cisco Systems - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaDec 03 18:11
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/407931701437153281  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/407931348729729024  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/407930782108618752  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/407930496149385216Dec 03 18:11
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: The main developer of #WordPress (in the early days) was a #cisco employee, but I believe he left Cisco around 2005.Dec 03 18:11
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: Back doors not good for business, except for business with the government you're putting back doors for http://t.co/zXo49P6PhYDec 03 18:11
TechrightsBot-tr-> news.firedoglake.com | Cisco Says NSA Costing Them Major Business Abroad |  FDL News DeskDec 03 18:11
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: The Bizarre Mind Of An #NSA Defender: Discrediting Activists By Using Their Porn Surfing Is Just Like Journalism! http://t.co/1gQ6jJigVPDec 03 18:11
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.techdirt.com | A Tour Through The Bizarre Mind Of An NSA Defender: Discrediting Activists By Using Their Porn Surfing Is Just Like Journalism! | TechdirtDec 03 18:12
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: #NSA memo to employees amid leaks....about leaks.... leaked! So it's the same as in the #cia - low loyalty levels within.Dec 03 18:12
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/3366058Dec 03 18:13
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: New ways to discredit #greenwald http://www.truthdig.com/eartotheground/item/greenwald_privatized_reporting_claims_are_absurd_20131202 I saw the same smears used against #assangeDec 03 18:13
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.truthdig.com | Greenwald: Privatized Reporting Claims Are Absurd - Truthdig  [ http://ur1.ca/g51gw ]Dec 03 18:13
schestowitz"Trying to monopolize information? I think they are thinking of the MPAA ;)"Dec 03 18:13
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/3365726Dec 03 18:14
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: his bedroom...Dec 03 18:14
schestowitz" #DontFuckAround "Dec 03 18:14
schestowitz" #staoG "Dec 03 18:14
schestowitzhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eKMspN-7CoDec 03 18:28
TechrightsBot-trwww.youtube.com | Michael Parenti -- Myth of UnderDevelopment! - YouTube  [ http://ur1.ca/g51iv ]Dec 03 18:28
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/407936962528808960  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/407938659770716160  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/407940367254712321  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/407941288458477568 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/407941678394142721Dec 03 18:38
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: #LibreOffice now has a built in XML-parser  http://t.co/90GWcHZj6f #xmlDec 03 18:38
TechrightsBot-tr-> lodahl.blogspot.co.uk | Lodahl's blog: LibreOffice now has a built in XML-parserDec 03 18:38
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: Factory reset http://t.co/ga9CdjUCDeDec 03 18:38
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: Myth of UnderDevelopment https://t.co/X01eRI3TNbDec 03 18:38
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: Traitor? https://t.co/usRuxrMYLvDec 03 18:38
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: Big Publisher Propaganda for Grade School Students  http://t.co/fo3DYNqMtL #disturbing - spread around to fight this #propagandaDec 03 18:38
TechrightsBot-tr-> 173.20.223.180 | Copyright PropagandaDec 03 18:38
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/gnutelephony/status/407942789461061632Dec 03 18:44
TechrightsBot-tr@gnutelephony: @schestowitz there are states that still have laws saying 3 or more indians gathered can be considered a war party and shot on sight...Dec 03 18:44
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/gnutelephony/status/407942928384790528Dec 03 18:44
TechrightsBot-tr@gnutelephony: @schestowitz in many ways US still remains a violently racist countryDec 03 18:44
schestowitzI heard about 3 people being "public gathering"Dec 03 18:45
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FLOSSSurvey2013/status/407946742219288576Dec 03 19:10
TechrightsBot-tr@FLOSSSurvey2013: @schestowitz Help us spread the #freesoftware / #opensource developers and contributors survey http://t.co/1df8p71n2A  Thanks!Dec 03 19:10
TechrightsBot-tr-> floss2013.libresoft.es | FLOSS Survey 2013Dec 03 19:10
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/407942458530877440  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/407943146346401792  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/407950222309216256Dec 03 19:18
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: Three black students waiting for bus arrested after cops order them to ‘disperse’ http://t.co/U4SueAq10W NYPD stood its ground?Dec 03 19:18
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.rawstory.com | Three black students waiting for bus arrested after cops order them to ‘disperse’  | The Raw StoryDec 03 19:18
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: Guilt by colour http://t.co/VGSuLAeA9YDec 03 19:18
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.rawstory.com | Texas cops handcuff and take 13-year-old white girl from black guardians  | The Raw StoryDec 03 19:18
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: FOX News Explaining GitHub is the Funniest Thing You’ll See Today http://t.co/wvdY2oeQYv #githubDec 03 19:18
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.thepowerbase.com | FOX News Explaining GitHub is the Funniest Thing You'll See TodayDec 03 19:18
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/407950939094777856 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/407951065804734465  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/407951631473721344Dec 03 19:19
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: Linux Deepin needs your help with the Deepin Localization Project http://t.co/1423waTUdv #china #gnu #linuxDec 03 19:19
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.linuxbsdos.com | Linux Deepin needs your help with the Deepin Localization Project | LinuxBSDos.comDec 03 19:19
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: SteamOS: Steaming ahead? – The Open Source Column http://t.co/YOCiCiqANL #steamos #gnu #linuxDec 03 19:19
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.linuxuser.co.uk | SteamOS: Steaming ahead? – The Open Source Column | Linux UserDec 03 19:19
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: Canonical to Debut New Mir Display Server for Ubuntu Linux in 2014 http://t.co/XUShNYjeTN #ubuntu #linuxDec 03 19:19
TechrightsBot-tr-> thevarguy.com | Canonical to Debut New Mir Display Server for Ubuntu Linux in 2014 | Ubuntu content from The VAR GuyDec 03 19:19
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/3365727Dec 03 19:32
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: #HansHermannHoppe #MisesInstitute #LibertarianThinker  Know your FascistDec 03 19:32
TechrightsBot-tr  Photo by jamesprothero@joindiaspora.com: https://joindiaspora.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/images/thumb_medium_00ef19910058875464a8.jpgDec 03 19:32
schestowitz"Where is the freedom in Democracy? 51% rule the rest and there is no recourse other than the laughable legal system. Some of the greatest historical tragedies were normalized/legalized through mass Democracy. I am no fan of Mises Institute and their right (in most cases vulgar) Libertarianism but come on."Dec 03 19:32
Sosumihttp://s.newsweek.com/sites/www.newsweek.com/files/styles/article_large/public/2012/08/19/1345413183554.cached.jpgDec 03 19:38
Sosumicrapple in one gifDec 03 19:47
Sosumihttp://i.minus.com/ibgkSV5p1KdyoU.gifDec 03 19:47
iophkhttp://mrpogson.com/2013/12/03/using-freelibre-open-source-software-is-a-no-brainer/Dec 03 19:57
TechrightsBot-trmrpogson.com | Using Free/Libre Open Source Software Is A “No-Brainer”  |   Robert Pogson  [ http://ur1.ca/g51u7 ]Dec 03 19:57
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schestowitz> [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider    ]]]Dec 03 20:05
schestowitz> [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies,     ]]]Dec 03 20:05
schestowitz> [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]]Dec 03 20:05
schestowitz> Dec 03 20:05
schestowitz> I think GPG has a command to associate your key with other email addresses.Dec 03 20:05
schestowitz> With some trouble, you could maintain various copies of the same key,Dec 03 20:05
schestowitz> each with its own set of email addresses.  (You would need to keepDec 03 20:05
schestowitz> them in different key rings.)Dec 03 20:05
iophkThe different key rings would probably be essential.  But how many mail clients can actually handle that?Dec 03 20:06
schestowitz> [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider    ]]]Dec 03 20:06
schestowitz> [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies,     ]]]Dec 03 20:06
schestowitz> [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]]Dec 03 20:06
schestowitz> Dec 03 20:06
schestowitz> I didn't bring it up this time because my interview was just aDec 03 20:06
schestowitz> part of a larger program which had nothing to do with me.Dec 03 20:06
schestowitz> In that situation, I have no leverage.  But I will ask them to makeDec 03 20:06
schestowitz> an Ogg file.Dec 03 20:06
schestowitzTheir youtube video of your segment got a lot of attention. There's no alternative format.Dec 03 20:07
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schestowitzLOL @ http://i.minus.com/ibgkSV5p1KdyoU.gifDec 03 20:09
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/407954329052905472  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/407954656162496513  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/407960174088175616Dec 03 20:12
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: Will ZaReason's second tablet also be a dud?  http://t.co/k1wZNqKDLP? #ZaReason #tabletDec 03 20:12
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.itwire.com | Will ZaReason's second tablet also be a dud?Dec 03 20:12
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: Binutils 2.24 Supports New Processors, Architectures http://t.co/yER0txXM2d #gnuDec 03 20:12
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.phoronix.com | [Phoronix] Binutils 2.24 Supports New Processors, ArchitecturesDec 03 20:12
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: Arch Linux 2013.12.01 Is Now Available for Download http://t.co/z12Rgv2KhX #archlinux #gnu #linuxDec 03 20:12
TechrightsBot-tr-> news.softpedia.com | Arch Linux 2013.12.01 Is Now Available for DownloadDec 03 20:12
schestowitz https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/407960355475046400  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/407964633912594432  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/407964979724570624Dec 03 20:13
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: SolydXK #SolydK 2013.11 review http://t.co/Lzls1LrpRZ #gnu #linuxDec 03 20:13
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.linuxbsdos.com | SolydXK SolydK 2013.11 review | LinuxBSDos.comDec 03 20:13
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: Newsweek Contradiction http://t.co/8sm54UFLipDec 03 20:13
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: French Isère department encourages open source use  https://t.co/Qh6hy9xe9S #france #freeswDec 03 20:13
TechrightsBot-tr-> joinup.ec.europa.eu | French Isère department encourages open source use | JoinupDec 03 20:13
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/3367255Dec 03 20:14
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The main developer of #WordPress (in the early days) was a #cisco employee, but I believe he left Cisco around 2005.Dec 03 20:14
schestowitz"Mullenweg?"Dec 03 20:14
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/407966374511005696Dec 03 20:32
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: The Government’s Secret Plan to Shut Off Cellphones and the Internet, Explained http://t.co/1uTnSXKfvn control grid.Dec 03 20:32
TechrightsBot-tr-> billmoyers.com | The Government's Secret Plan to Shut Off Cellphones and the Internet, Explained | Connecting the Dots, News & Notes, What Matters Today | BillMoyers.comDec 03 20:32
Agnesinick SosumiDec 03 20:35
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schestowitzhttps://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/1489278_291309357660773_149566985_n.jpgDec 03 20:37
Sosumi1 wordDec 03 20:51
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/3367924Dec 03 20:58
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: To present in an #IEEE conference on computer vision I had to give the #NSA a fingerprint from both hands. How ironic.Dec 03 20:58
schestowitz"a vision of our computing future, perhaps... (or present for that matter)"Dec 03 20:58
schestowitzSosumi: ApocalypseDec 03 21:01
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Sosuminow?Dec 03 21:01
schestowitzno, ONE word :)Dec 03 21:05
Sosumitrainwreck seems to be the bestDec 03 21:08
Sosumibut all presidencies have been one anywaysDec 03 21:08
SosumiBushamaDec 03 21:09
Sosumibut don't tell that to the ObozoloonsDec 03 21:09
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/407971111524397056  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/407972036548763648  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/407973652265979904Dec 03 21:12
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: Zero-hours contracts: 5.5m Britons 'are on deals offering little guaranteed work' http://t.co/ehqQY1Z2i2 same as US https://t.co/tHRnYLnLsoDec 03 21:12
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.theguardian.com | Zero-hours contracts: 5.5m Britons 'are on deals offering little guaranteed work' | UK news | theguardian.comDec 03 21:12
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.youtube.com | How Corporations Destroyed American Democracy - Chris Hedges. - YouTubeDec 03 21:12
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: PR https://t.co/c7Y6P2yx3jDec 03 21:12
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: "Good" https://t.co/yiz9SBA3b7Dec 03 21:12
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/407974420117225472  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/407975570056949760  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/407976048954208257Dec 03 21:12
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: #Bangladesh Garment Factory Ablaze As Worker Anger Boils  https://t.co/JZAy3NW94Y high cost of "cheap"Dec 03 21:12
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.commondreams.org | Bangladesh Garment Factory Ablaze As Worker Anger Boils | Common DreamsDec 03 21:12
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: Fingerprints databases https://t.co/pDB22zkhiLDec 03 21:12
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: To present in an #IEEE conference on computer vision I had to give the #NSA a fingerprint from both hands. How ironic.Dec 03 21:12
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/3367865Dec 03 21:20
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: **Judge Judy is the biggest bitch I have ever had the displeasure of hearing speak. Anyone that goes before her and expects an ounce of justice is a fool.**Dec 03 21:20
schestowitz"Well, glad I'm not alone on this one xD"Dec 03 21:20
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/3367924Dec 03 21:20
schestowitz"WIll two ass cheeks work? ;)"Dec 03 21:20
schestowitzOnly for TSADec 03 21:20
schestowitzhttp://www.linuxinsider.com/rsstory/79308.htmlDec 03 21:25
TechrightsBot-trwww.linuxinsider.com | Ashton Kutcher Joins Lenovo, Keeps Day Job | Tablets | LinuxInsider  [ http://ur1.ca/g52ch ]Dec 03 21:25
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/407985681286569984 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/407986571175284736   https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/407986683419062272  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/407989734632620033   https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/407990439535710209Dec 03 22:22
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: Android gets leaner? Maybe it really is the anti-Windows then. http://t.co/6k8RD4LqdMDec 03 22:22
TechrightsBot-tr-> phandroid.com | Android head talks Project Svelte and how Android 4.4 KitKat is the leanest Android version yetDec 03 22:22
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: Pentoo (Gentoo) Based Linux Review, Features and Screenshot Tour http://t.co/R1TfbccW1VDec 03 22:22
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.tecmint.com | Pentoo (Gentoo) Based Linux Review, Features and Screenshot TourDec 03 22:22
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: "Linux Voice" is doing very well, financially http://t.co/gBU6oHGJKQDec 03 22:22
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.geek.com | Indiegogo being used to fund Linux and free software-focused magazine Linux Voice | Apps and Software | Geek.comDec 03 22:22
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: People who photograph themselves in front of mirrors holding phone are not impressing anyone;if anything,may lack friends to photograph themDec 03 22:22
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: Many people identify themselves or project their perceived status using a tracking device (including cars, which the #uk intensively tracks)Dec 03 22:22
schestowitz"You know, that might be true. Got to think more about that."Dec 03 22:22
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/408004428219047936  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/408003891624939520   https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/408003589060448256  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/408003262714216449Dec 03 22:51
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: Remember the many calls to kill #assange in 2010? http://t.co/GhbIBKIY4g Well, Snowden's turn http://t.co/yfbCSFkKP9Dec 03 22:51
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.youtube.com | The Assassination of Julian Assange - YouTubeDec 03 22:51
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.thenation.com | Could Google and the NSA Make Whistleblowers Disappear? | The NationDec 03 22:51
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: MPs ask MI5 boss to justify claim that NSA leaks endangered national security http://t.co/kGtdQMc1XP http://t.co/QFx68Bpq86Dec 03 22:51
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.theguardian.com | MPs ask MI5 boss to justify claim that NSA leaks endangered national security | World news | The GuardianDec 03 22:51
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.japantimes.co.jp | Why the NSA has landed us all in another nice mess | The Japan TimesDec 03 22:51
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: "Barret details how the #CIA was created out of WWII and the failure of intelligence at Pearl Harbor." http://t.co/6VDEcHZJsQDec 03 22:51
TechrightsBot-tr-> voiceofrussia.com | CIA: a powerful agency should receive powerful oversight - News - Politics - Voice of Russia - US EditionDec 03 22:51
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: Increasingly, in sadistic self-righteous society, seems like "secret" can be substituted with "illegal". Courts, prisons, spying, laws, etc.Dec 03 22:51
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/408002768650403841  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/408000620034273280   https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/407998987166572544Dec 03 22:52
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: Two terror suspects sue Poland over 'CIA torture' http://t.co/intHVEsTEa http://t.co/wzJJUGfTaU http://t.co/XCQc1PQBunDec 03 22:52
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.bbc.co.uk | BBC News - Two terror suspects sue Poland over 'CIA torture'Dec 03 22:52
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.ibtimes.co.uk | Guantanamo Detainees Accuse Poland of Role in Extraordinary Rendition and CIA Torture - IBTimes UKDec 03 22:52
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.aljazeera.com | Europe rights court hears of  CIA prisons - Europe - Al Jazeera EnglishDec 03 22:52
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: Russell Brand: Get My New DVD From The Pirate Bay  http://t.co/Ro7svBOyqW  #copyright #monopolyDec 03 22:52
TechrightsBot-tr-> torrentfreak.com | Russell Brand: Get My New DVD From The Pirate Bay | TorrentFreakDec 03 22:52
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: Faceb00k: people reduced to faces, society reduced to books. Muglists a better name. The police her has 'em... & it's UK's #1 FB user. Fact.Dec 03 22:52
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/conversations?conversation_id=41806Dec 03 22:54
TechrightsBot-trjoindiaspora.com | Diaspora* / Sign in  [ http://ur1.ca/4c80w ]Dec 03 22:54
schestowitz"Hi, I just read about you giving a conference for IEEE. Do you travel for this? I'm the President of the Computer Society, Panama Chapter and I'm in search of people who can give them. Thanks."Dec 03 22:54
schestowitzAt the time this was paid for by my university.Dec 03 22:54
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MinceRhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgeYScYe8wIDec 03 23:38
TechrightsBot-trwww.youtube.com | How to play chess properly - YouTube  [ http://ur1.ca/g52sx ]Dec 03 23:38
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DaemonFCI'm still amazed by the stuff I run into on Amazon.com.Dec 04 06:06
DaemonFCThey have a shower enema system.Dec 04 06:06
DaemonFCWho is dumb enough to stick a water line with city utility pressure up their ass, and turn the faucet on?Dec 04 06:07
DaemonFCThat just doesn't seem like a very smart thing to do.Dec 04 06:07
DaemonFCIt might end with a trip to the emergency room.Dec 04 06:07
DaemonFCI would also think that such a device would fall under FDA regulation, since it is promoted with the claim of medical benefits.Dec 04 06:12
DaemonFCThere are people who recommend using one of those daily, but I'd say that if you have to use one more than once a month, you should really change your diet.Dec 04 06:14
amarsh04http://computician.net/dr/en/Petition-JapanSecretProtectionDec 04 06:19
TechrightsBot-trcomputician.net | Urgent Appeal against Japan's secret-protection legislation | computician.net  [ http://ur1.ca/g5478 ]Dec 04 06:19
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MinceRhttps://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-qW9SlQw0JvY/UbeKBSpnyEI/AAAAAAAACgg/5DUFgy9HxKY/w500/Mac%2BPro%2Btrash%2Bcan.jpgDec 04 07:18
iophklook-and-feelDec 04 07:19
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DaemonFCshared a link via Salon.Dec 04 07:38
DaemonFC7 seconds agoDec 04 07:38
DaemonFChttp://slnm.us/kfWjwOUDec 04 07:38
TechrightsBot-trwww.salon.com | Catholic hospitals’ grim hypocrisy: Letting women suffer in the name of “life” - Salon.comDec 04 07:38
DaemonFCIf I was shot and bleeding out, I'd try to drive past the religious hospitals. I don't want people who think that the world is 5,000 years old and that humans appeared in their current form on day seven to do anything involving my body.Dec 04 07:38
DaemonFCschestowitz: You're not on Facebook?Dec 04 07:39
schestowitz_logNoDec 04 07:39
DaemonFCBut....it's the Facebook!Dec 04 07:40
DaemonFC:)Dec 04 07:40
schestowitz__exactly!Dec 04 07:43
DaemonFCI'm glad that my phone has an IR blaster. I can control my TVs, Blu Ray player, air conditioner, heater, and I can turn off Fox Noise if I go into a McDonalds.Dec 04 07:48
iophkhttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/12/04/windows_xp_warning_china/Dec 04 07:56
iophkYou'd think that China would invest in ReactOS if they wanted to go the XP route for a while longer.  Or that they'd move to Red Flag to get free.Dec 04 07:56
TechrightsBot-trwww.theregister.co.uk | Beijing leans on Microsoft to maintain Windows XP support • The Register  [ http://ur1.ca/g54ig ]Dec 04 07:56
DaemonFCParts of ReactOS work pretty well, others don't work at all.Dec 04 07:56
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iophkThey have a ways to goDec 04 07:57
iophkBut there is renewed activity lately.Dec 04 07:57
iophkHow far they get by April is another question.Dec 04 07:57
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iophkhttp://torrentfreak.com/facebook-uses-social-signals-to-stop-piracy-131203/Dec 04 08:08
TechrightsBot-trtorrentfreak.com | Facebook Uses “Social Signals” and Profile Information to Stop Piracy | TorrentFreak  [ http://ur1.ca/g54jo ]Dec 04 08:08
schestowitz__iophk: so they want MS to keep telling NSA about back doors and then wait a monthDec 04 08:08
iophkYepDec 04 08:09
iophkphysical keyboard:Dec 04 08:10
iophkhttp://liliputing.com/2013/12/open-source-neo900-phone-gets-enough-pre-orders-to-go-into-production.htmlDec 04 08:10
TechrightsBot-trliliputing.com | Open source Neo900 phone gets enough pre-orders to go into production - Liliputing  [ http://ur1.ca/g54jx ]Dec 04 08:10
schestowitz__iophk: that article is like propagands, read the first paraDec 04 08:11
schestowitz__i can't link to itDec 04 08:11
iophkReg or TF?Dec 04 08:12
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3368119Dec 04 08:13
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: People who photograph themselves in front of mirrors holding phone are not impressing anyone;if anything,may lack friends to photograph themDec 04 08:13
schestowitz__"I'm impressed by some of those pictures, but I'm a sucker for a pretty person. My wife takes pictures like this to show her out of state sisters what she's wearing."Dec 04 08:13
schestowitz__iophk: redDec 04 08:13
schestowitz__regDec 04 08:13
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3368239Dec 04 08:14
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Russell Brand: Get My New DVD From The Pirate BayDec 04 08:14
TechrightsBot-tr-> torrentfreak.com | Russell Brand: Get My New DVD From The Pirate Bay | TorrentFreak  [ http://ur1.ca/g54kh ]Dec 04 08:14
schestowitz__'Very cool, thanks."Dec 04 08:14
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3368303Dec 04 08:16
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Remember the many calls to kill #assange in 2010? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Fab1IsCZzY Well, Snowden's turn http://www.thenation.com/article/177430/could-google-and-nsa-make-whistleblowers-disappearDec 04 08:16
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.youtube.com | The Assassination of Julian Assange - YouTube  [ http://ur1.ca/g54ku ]Dec 04 08:16
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.thenation.com | Could Google and the NSA Make Whistleblowers Disappear? | The Nation  [ http://ur1.ca/g54kv ]Dec 04 08:16
schestowitz__"Dec 04 08:17
schestowitz__Microsoft already practices this kind of censorship. They make court documents and websites vanish by all means at their disposal, including economic ruin of those carrying the message. Boycott Microsoft, for example, is mostly vanished even from the Internet Archive. Tim Bray had all of his businesses and those of his associates viciously attacked in an effort to eliminate him as an effective critic. Even Groklaw has been silenced.Dec 04 08:17
schestowitz__This is why we need free software and free libraries. Free community and university based libraries eliminate the memory hole if we allow them to share and have control of their computing systems. If we can't share, other people can control what we read and think. We should all start running our own blogs and libraries now and demand the right to share. If we don't write our own story, someone else will.Dec 04 08:17
schestowitz__"Dec 04 08:17
iophkCringley had a description of how M$ destroys documents.  Apparently the retention policy is X days and the processing time for requests is Y, where Y > X.  The trick was to make things byzantine enough that the inital request nearly always went to the wrong department and by the time it was routed to the right department, X days had already passed.  The court records have been too much help and M$ needed a way to prevent that from happening again.Dec 04 08:19
amarsh04http://www.computerworld.com.au/article/533401/privacy_international_files_complaint_against_australian_signals_directorate/Dec 04 08:20
TechrightsBot-trwww.computerworld.com.au | Privacy International files complaint against Australian Signals Directorate - Privacy International, Tony Abbott, Australian Signals Directorate, Edward Snowden, metadata, Scott Ludlam, privacy - Computerworld  [ http://ur1.ca/g54lh ]Dec 04 08:20
iophkhttp://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1002705/microsoft-deliberately-destroyed-damaging-emails-claimDec 04 08:20
TechrightsBot-trwww.theinquirer.net | Microsoft deliberately destroyed damaging emails, claim- The Inquirer  [ http://ur1.ca/g54lm ]Dec 04 08:20
amarsh04add "5 eyes" and "Echelon" to the keywordsDec 04 08:21
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/SEEVed/status/408148340866428928Dec 04 08:22
TechrightsBot-tr@SEEVed: @schestowitz how do you guys do the podcasts?Dec 04 08:22
schestowitz__which?Dec 04 08:22
amarsh04http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-12-04/asio-arrests-key-witness-in-east-timor-spying-scandal/5132954Dec 04 08:23
TechrightsBot-trwww.abc.net.au | East Timor spying scandal: Tony Abbott defends ASIO raids on lawyer Bernard Collaery's offices - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)  [ http://ur1.ca/g54m4 ]Dec 04 08:23
DaemonFCThe voice dictation thingy on my phone went away.Dec 04 08:24
*DaemonFC is trying to figure this out.Dec 04 08:24
DaemonFCOK, it's back now...Dec 04 08:27
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/SEEVed/status/408149560616157184Dec 04 08:28
TechrightsBot-tr@SEEVed: @schestowitz TechBytesDec 04 08:28
schestowitz__OpenShot, Blender3d, ffmpegDec 04 08:28
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/SEEVed/status/408151168842334209Dec 04 08:31
TechrightsBot-tr@SEEVed: @schestowitz i meant the audio oneDec 04 08:31
schestowitz__AudacityDec 04 08:31
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/i/redirect?url=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2FSEEVed%2Fstatus%2F408151939382120448&sig=256e0112407ad09c408ec975e25c4b4912b15292&uid=26603208&iid=b06c8ff96ba84e66adf6cd3ffbbf22e3&nid=27+1267&t=1Dec 04 08:34
TechrightsBot-trtwitter.com | NO TITLE  [ http://ur1.ca/g54oa ]Dec 04 08:34
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/SEEVed/status/408151939382120448Dec 04 08:34
TechrightsBot-tr@SEEVed: @schestowitz to record? OLC has a server -> https://t.co/N77X0zhr0KDec 04 08:34
TechrightsBot-tr-> en.wikipedia.org | Mumble (software) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaDec 04 08:34
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amarsh04having problems with the new libpcap0.8 and arpwatch/npdmonDec 04 09:07
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MinceRgeekingsDec 04 09:39
DaemonFChttp://www.thecodingstudio.com/?linux&release=openSUSE%2013.1Dec 04 09:50
TechrightsBot-trwww.thecodingstudio.com | openSUSE 13.1 Screenshot Tour  [ http://ur1.ca/g550h ]Dec 04 09:50
DaemonFCI like their theme.Dec 04 09:50
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schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3367829Dec 04 11:37
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: **Why there're three pedals??**Dec 04 11:37
schestowitz__"Theft-deterrent and road-safety lever."Dec 04 11:37
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3367738Dec 04 11:38
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: French Isère department encourages open source useDec 04 11:38
TechrightsBot-tr-> joinup.ec.europa.eu | French Isère department encourages open source use | Joinup  [ http://ur1.ca/g55fo ]Dec 04 11:38
schestowitz__"Niall Ferguson is an ass. Pity as some of his economic history writing is actually informative."Dec 04 11:38
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3367733Dec 04 11:38
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Newsweek Contradiction http://s.newsweek.com/sites/www.newsweek.com/files/styles/article_large/public/2012/08/19/1345413183554.cached.jpgDec 04 11:38
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3368040Dec 04 11:39
TechrightsBot-tr@jamesprothero@joindiaspora.com: Jean-Luc #GodardDec 04 11:39
TechrightsBot-tr  Photo by jamesprothero@joindiaspora.com: https://joindiaspora.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/images/thumb_medium_416462f4a3a594bc8e60.jpgDec 04 11:39
schestowitz__"Hollywood is making movies we both don’t like and that’s good, because their offers can not polarize us."Dec 04 11:39
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/336572Dec 04 11:39
TechrightsBot-tr@davidmorley@diasp.org: #cats #neverenoughcatvideos http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXRX47L_3yE&feature=youtube_gdata_playerDec 04 11:39
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.youtube.com | Medal of Honor Cat - YouTube  [ http://ur1.ca/g55fz ]Dec 04 11:39
schestowitz__"You almost quote Jefferson there... He actually said "Democracy is 51% of the people taking away the rights of the other 49%. What do you know about consensus democracy? This is a small primer, but it is worth having a look at. http://openpolitics.ca/consensus+democracy"Dec 04 11:39
TechrightsBot-tropenpolitics.ca | consensus democracy  [ http://ur1.ca/g55g0 ]Dec 04 11:40
iophkhttp://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-12-03/nokia-gets-ruling-blocking-sales-of-htc-s-one-mini-phone-in-u-k-.htmlDec 04 11:43
TechrightsBot-trwww.bloomberg.com | Nokia Gets Ruling Blocking U.K. Sales of HTC One Mini - Bloomberg  [ http://ur1.ca/g55gf ]Dec 04 11:43
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/images/scaled_full_41e1b560847cb899e1bb.jpgDec 04 12:05
schestowitz__iophk: wow, Florian not quoted?! :-)Dec 04 12:06
iophkhaven't seen noise from him for a while, thankfully.Dec 04 12:06
iophkI guess he's still paid to write though.Dec 04 12:07
iophkM$ left Nokia with the patents so it will have to troll for M$ to "monetize" them.Dec 04 12:07
Sosumihttp://rense.com/1.imagesH/sheepysplash.jpgDec 04 12:08
schestowitz__shameless self-promotion by IBM, using the "Linux" brand http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/the-overall-linux-support-solution-to-help-with-the-bottom-line-234371251.htmlDec 04 12:40
TechrightsBot-trwww.prnewswire.com | The Overall Linux Support Solution to Help with the Bottom Line -- LONDON, December 4, 2013 /PRNewswire/ --  [ http://ur1.ca/g55oj ]Dec 04 12:40
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iophkhttp://torrentfreak.com/hotfile-pays-80-million-to-the-mpaa-but-might-survive-131204/Dec 04 12:58
TechrightsBot-trtorrentfreak.com | Hotfile Pays $80 Million to The MPAA, But Might Survive | TorrentFreak  [ http://ur1.ca/g563l ]Dec 04 12:58
Sosumibig corps like IBM only support free software when it fits their interestsDec 04 13:07
iophkyes and they're finding that it fits their interests to support free softwareDec 04 13:08
Sosumimostly to prevent stagnationDec 04 13:08
iophkand to gain competitive advanageDec 04 13:09
Sosumididn't IBM partner with M$ on some patent case a while agoDec 04 13:09
iophkhttp://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2013/11/20/software-patent-reform-just-died-in-the-house-thanks-to-ibm-and-microsoft/Dec 04 13:10
Sosumianyways, what I meant, when dealing with big corps, like IBM,Dec 04 13:10
TechrightsBot-trwww.washingtonpost.com | Software patent reform just died in the House, thanks to IBM and Microsoft  [ http://ur1.ca/g2hib ]Dec 04 13:10
iophknot that long agoDec 04 13:10
Sosumithread softly, but carry a big stickDec 04 13:11
Sosumiyeah, not so long ago, but you know I can't possibly memorize everything :PDec 04 13:12
iophkIBM got royally screwed by M$ over OS/2 so I would be surprised if that lesson has worn off already.Dec 04 13:13
Sosumiwhen their interests are the same, they'll always team upDec 04 13:14
Sosumieven if temporarilyDec 04 13:14
Sosumikind of like game of thrones mentality to give an exampleDec 04 13:14
Sosumibecause in the end, they'll turn on each otherDec 04 13:15
iophkUsually M$ does the turning first.Dec 04 13:17
iophkThey've been quick to backstab.Dec 04 13:18
Sosumithat's because their foundation is built on top of quicksandDec 04 13:18
Sosumiand toshiba just acquired OCZDec 04 13:30
SosumiI guess the folks (me) who own OCZ ssds will get their warranties served when they go bustDec 04 13:31
iophkhttp://www.itwire.com/your-it-news/home-it/62512-choice-slams-tpp-the-nasty-secret-trade-treatyDec 04 13:55
TechrightsBot-trwww.itwire.com | CHOICE slams TPP, the nasty secret trade treaty  [ http://ur1.ca/g576n ]Dec 04 13:55
iophkhttp://thenextweb.com/insider/2013/12/04/valve-joins-linux-foundation-prepares-linux-powered-steam-os-steam-machines/Dec 04 13:59
TechrightsBot-trthenextweb.com | Valve Joins the Linux Foundation as it Readies Steam OS  [ http://ur1.ca/g5776 ]Dec 04 13:59
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msb_Some years ago IBM put a huge amount of money into Linux development, which of course benefited them.  And many years ago, IBM invented the IBM-PC, and published complete circuit diagrams and BIOS listings for it, cheap.  It did the same for the 286 and 386 versions, IIRC.Dec 04 14:15
msb_So I like IBM.  I still have the 8088 IBM-PC BIOS listing and schematics in its 3-ring binder, which was extremely useful back then for doing sotware and hardware mods.Dec 04 14:19
msb_I used to buy Suse boxed-sets from Germany too.Dec 04 14:21
msb_Boca Raton.  Didn't some IBM-PC executives die in a plane crash?  Or did I dream that?Dec 04 14:27
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msb_https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsCyC1dZiN8Dec 04 14:42
TechrightsBot-trwww.youtube.com | Jethro Tull - Living In The Past 1969 - YouTube  [ http://ur1.ca/8etal ]Dec 04 14:42
msb_http://creatingcustomerevangelists.com/resources/evangelists/irving_wladawsky-berger.aspDec 04 14:50
TechrightsBot-trcreatingcustomerevangelists.com | IBM's penguin passion  [ http://ur1.ca/g57e4 ]Dec 04 14:50
msb_Scroll down to see Peace-Love-Linux stencil.Dec 04 14:51
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msb_Skyjacking drones with Linux and a Raspberry-Pi:  http://threatpost.com/how-to-skyjack-drones-in-an-hour-for-less-than-400/103086Dec 04 15:19
TechrightsBot-trthreatpost.com | How to Skyjack Drones for $400 | Threatpost | The First Stop For Security News  [ http://ur1.ca/g57hv ]Dec 04 15:19
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iophkhttp://www.pcworld.com/article/2069040/linux-gaming-may-advance-as-valve-joins-opensource-association.htmlDec 04 15:50
TechrightsBot-trwww.pcworld.com | Valve joins the Linux Foundation ahead of SteamOS launch | PCWorld  [ http://ur1.ca/g57o0 ]Dec 04 15:50
iophkYet another plea 'bargain'Dec 04 15:55
iophkhttp://www.itworld.com/internet/385097/wisconsin-man-sentenced-participating-anonymous-ddosDec 04 15:55
TechrightsBot-trwww.itworld.com | Wisconsin man sentenced for participating in Anonymous DDoS | ITworld  [ http://ur1.ca/g57px ]Dec 04 15:55
iophkI guess the private prisons run better when stocked with non-violent inmates.  Dec 04 15:56
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Sosumihttp://www.activistpost.com/2013/12/new-algorithm-will-hunt-down-untagged.htmlDec 04 19:31
TechrightsBot-trwww.activistpost.com | Activist Post: New Algorithm Will Hunt You Down In Untagged Photos  [ http://ur1.ca/g58n7 ]Dec 04 19:31
Sosuminot a fan of activist postDec 04 19:32
Sosumibut something that was already known as finally received some coverageDec 04 19:32
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Sosumi*hasDec 04 19:32
sebsebseb Dec 04 19:32
iophkhttp://edition.cnn.com/2013/12/04/opinion/snowden-chilling-effect/index.html?iid=article_sidebarDec 04 19:51
TechrightsBot-tredition.cnn.com | Opinion: After Snowden, we're self-censoring and we don't care - CNN.com  [ http://ur1.ca/g58pc ]Dec 04 19:51
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iophkM$ is already moving the marketing to n+1 with "Threshold", again.Dec 04 20:49
iophkThey were just talking about "Blue" not that long ago.Dec 04 20:49
iophkThe close cycles indicates that they're not doing well.Dec 04 20:50
sebsebsebiophk: Microsoft loves you and MinceR !Dec 04 20:52
MinceRnopeDec 04 20:53
sebsebseband schestowitzDec 04 20:53
sebsebsebMinceR: YES!!!!!!!!!Dec 04 20:53
MinceRmaybe m$ plans to cross the Threshold with most users and make them jump ship? :>Dec 04 20:53
Sosumiso vista 8.1 is not doing well?Dec 04 20:53
sebsebsebto Apple?Dec 04 20:53
iophkThreshold of tolerance?  Dec 04 20:53
sebsebsebfor the desktopDec 04 20:53
MinceRiophk: indeedDec 04 20:53
sebsebseband then Android for the phones or Iphone?Dec 04 20:53
sebsebsebyeah it's all on purpouse WIndows phone beig a failureDec 04 20:54
sebsebsebheh hehDec 04 20:54
iophkYota runs Android tooDec 04 20:54
MinceRsebsebseb: there are several options on the desktopDec 04 20:54
sebsebsebMinceR: Windows and  Mac  reffering to the whole thingDec 04 20:55
sebsebseband Mac reffering to whatever that runsDec 04 20:55
sebsebsebis what most of the main stremae  knowDec 04 20:56
sebsebseboh and many see PC as in WindowsDec 04 20:56
sebsebsebPC and MacDec 04 20:56
sebsebsebLinux, BSD, etc, they have no idea the majorityDec 04 20:56
MinceRi guess crossing the Threshold will make them more interestedDec 04 20:56
sebsebsebthe threshold? hmmDec 04 20:56
sebsebsebthat's something jono said wans't it?Dec 04 20:56
MinceRit will also be a signal to entrepreneursDec 04 20:56
sebsebsebcrossing the something jono saidDec 04 20:57
sebsebsebUbuntu helping to cross the somethingDec 04 20:57
MinceRi don't really care what he said :>Dec 04 20:57
sebsebsebthe cavern ?Dec 04 20:57
sebsebsebMinceR: of course you do since secretly he's your super man :dDec 04 20:57
sebsebsebone of your hereo's :dDec 04 20:58
MinceRwrong againDec 04 20:58
sebsebsebheh hehDec 04 20:58
sebsebsebno you know this is true secretly :dDec 04 20:58
MinceRmust be your secret, thenDec 04 20:58
sebsebsebiophk knows it as well heh heh :dDec 04 20:59
iophkIt is pitch black. You are likely to be eaten by a grue.Dec 04 20:59
sebsebsebMinceR: fine your hereo's are BIll Gates and Steve BallmerDec 04 21:00
MinceRstop guessing, you're not good at thisDec 04 21:00
sebsebsebno that wasn't a guess it's a not so known fact ;dDec 04 21:01
MinceR:crickets:Dec 04 21:03
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schestowitz__https://twitter.com/terminsane/status/408219771683876864Dec 04 21:20
TechrightsBot-tr@terminsane: @schestowitz after what happened during ww2 i can understand their reluctance to admit helping another facist regime commit atrocities.Dec 04 21:20
schestowitz__exactly, I made this point before; some Polish readers found that offensiveDec 04 21:21
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/AhmedAarad/status/408226770597339138Dec 04 21:21
TechrightsBot-tr@AhmedAarad: @schestowitz it's the war on privacy. that wouldnt even dent the annual € 500mln market. @PiratenpartijDec 04 21:21
schestowitz__[21:57] <s-892> @onekade         New rule: when Ron Wyden asks "NSA, do you doDec 04 22:02
schestowitz__[21:57] <s-892> retweeted by    this spying?" HE ALREADY KNOWS THE ANSWER ANDDec 04 22:02
schestowitz__[21:57] <s-892> @glynmoody      THE ANSWER IS ALWAYS YES http://t.co/O9AG6SARn7Dec 04 22:02
TechrightsBot-trprivacysos.org | Unlocking the latest Wyden code: Does NSA operate a bulk domestic location tracking program? | Privacy SOSDec 04 22:02
schestowitz__[19:32] <Sosumi> not a fan of activist postDec 04 22:05
schestowitz__I'm no fan eiutherDec 04 22:05
schestowitz__it's not BADDec 04 22:05
schestowitz__it's better than some corporate media, but some stuff is poorly laid outDec 04 22:06
SosumiI've caught activist post in the past plagiarising Jurian Maesen or whatever the guy is calledDec 04 22:07
Sosumifrom explosivereports.comDec 04 22:07
Sosumi*Jurriaan MaessenDec 04 22:08
MinceRgnDec 04 22:11
schestowitz__[13:09] <Sosumi> didn't IBM partner with M$ on some patent case a while agoDec 04 22:13
Sosumiit was a patent reform thingDec 04 22:17
Sosumiiohpk then refreshed my memory by linking the articleDec 04 22:17
schestowitz__[22:02] <s-892> @csoghoian       Remember when NSA accidentally tapped phoneDec 04 22:24
schestowitz__[22:02] <s-892>                 calls in DC instead of Egypt due to a typo inDec 04 22:24
schestowitz__[22:02] <s-892>                 the area code? Good times.Dec 04 22:24
schestowitz__[22:02] <s-892>                 http://t.co/WPCjzNL6GRDec 04 22:24
TechrightsBot-trwww.bbc.co.uk | BBC News - Edward Snowden: Leaks that exposed US spy programmeDec 04 22:25
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/csoghoian/status/408351567171969025Dec 04 22:26
TechrightsBot-tr@csoghoian: Don't worry, most of the 5 billion cellular location records NSA obtains per day are about foreigners, who have no privacy rights.Dec 04 22:26
schestowitz__[21:35] <s-892> @thegrugq        Many of these NSA stories read like basicallyDec 04 22:26
schestowitz__[21:35] <s-892> retweeted by    “because we can”…It’s awesome cool capabilitiesDec 04 22:26
schestowitz__[21:35] <s-892> @glynmoody      to have, of occasional utility, but…so cool!!Dec 04 22:26
schestowitz__[21:35] <s-892> ........................................  http://ur1.ca/g593qDec 04 22:26
TechrightsBot-tr@thegrugq: Many of these NSA stories read like basically “because we can”…It’s awesome cool capabilities to have, of occasional utility, but…so cool!!Dec 04 22:26
TechrightsBot-tr  (Re-tweeted by glynmoody)Dec 04 22:26
schestowitz__[21:39] <s-892> @glynmoody       one thing I find amazing about new revelationsDec 04 22:26
schestowitz__[21:39] <s-892>                 is that even with these capabilities the #NSADec 04 22:26
schestowitz__[21:39] <s-892>                 seem unable to do anything special with themDec 04 22:26
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3370236Dec 04 22:28
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Bezos "Post doesn't get the facts right about the coup against Zelaya." http://www.fair.org/blog/2013/11/27/washington-post-gets-honduras-wrong/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=washington-post-gets-honduras-wrong provoking with #propagandaDec 04 22:28
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.fair.org | Washington Post Gets Honduras Wrong  [ http://ur1.ca/g59cf ]Dec 04 22:28
schestowitz__"The Results of the Elections in Honduras were Changed, Says European Union Observer http://upsidedownworld.org/main/honduras-archives-46/4584-the-results-of-the-elections-in-honduras-were-changed-says-european-union-observer- "Dec 04 22:28
TechrightsBot-trupsidedownworld.org | The Results of the Elections in Honduras were Changed, Says European Union Observer  [ http://ur1.ca/g59cg ]Dec 04 22:28
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3368323Dec 04 22:29
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Linux Is the Only Way to Protect Against Potential Sound-Transmitted Malware http://news.softpedia.com/news/Linux-Is-the-Only-Way-to-Protect-Against-Possible-Malware-Through-Sound-Attacks-405566.shtml #linux #securityDec 04 22:29
TechrightsBot-tr-> news.softpedia.com | Linux Is the Only Way to Protect Against Potential Sound-Transmitted Malware  [ http://ur1.ca/g54je ]Dec 04 22:29
schestowitz__"Might a potential also exist for using such tactics to create a rudimentary, sonar-like ability to "see" the device's environment?"Dec 04 22:29
schestowitz__"I'm sure it pings before sending more..."Dec 04 22:29
Sosumihttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monte_Carlo_integrationDec 04 22:29
TechrightsBot-tren.wikipedia.org | Monte Carlo integration - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia  [ http://ur1.ca/g59cr ]Dec 04 22:29
SosumioopsDec 04 22:30
Sosumihttp://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-12-04/how-nsa-tracking-you-instantDec 04 22:30
TechrightsBot-trwww.zerohedge.com | This Is How The NSA Is Tracking You This Instant | Zero Hedge  [ http://ur1.ca/g59ct ]Dec 04 22:30
schestowitz__yes, posted tDec 04 22:30
Sosumiwell too bad for the nsa that my cell phone is almost old as meDec 04 22:31
Sosumiand I got a couple of spare batteries and shells in order to make it lastDec 04 22:32
schestowitz__What a STUPID article: http://www.patheos.com/blogs/fareforward/2013/12/the-new-privacy-how-the-nsa-protects-our-right-to-be-isolationists/Dec 04 22:44
TechrightsBot-trwww.patheos.com | The New Privacy: How the NSA Protects Our Right to Be Isolationists  [ http://ur1.ca/g59fs ]Dec 04 22:44
Sosumidumb articleDec 04 22:54
Sosumiwhat is at question with the NSA and data analytics from software providers is that people are not in control anymore of what is put out there for everyone to seeDec 04 22:56
Sosumiwindows/ubuntu searches sending info to MS, adobe gathering your uses of their software, etcDec 04 22:57
Sosumiand then there's push for the cloud and cloud services in which you no longer store the info on your machine for your personal use and choice with whom you want to share itDec 04 22:58
Sosumino mention about data leakege or improper use of data, nor "personalized" advertisingDec 04 22:59
SosumiI for example never expected any privacy from the moment something leaves my machineDec 04 23:00
Sosumibut I expect that what is inside my machine stays that wayDec 04 23:00
Sosumithat is no longer the case with proprietary softwareDec 04 23:01
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3372739Dec 04 23:02
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: DON'T PANIC. The #nsa would never used locations you have been to in the past 10 years in order to discredit you http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-25118156Dec 04 23:02
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.bbc.co.uk | BBC News - NSA 'planned to discredit radicals over web-porn use'  [ http://ur1.ca/g3vwm ]Dec 04 23:03
schestowitz__"Nor would they make things up, would they? If you trust blackmail, you are trusting criminals. I'm predicting that this is going to backfire in a big way. What idiots."Dec 04 23:03
Sosumihttp://i1.wp.com/vigilantcitizen.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/049.jpgDec 04 23:03
schestowitz__what's that about?Dec 04 23:05
Sosumijust an alleged mission patch from the total information awareness programDec 04 23:06
Sosumi*forDec 04 23:09
Sosumithere are a couple more aroundDec 04 23:09
Sosumibut that one happened to be my personal "favorite"Dec 04 23:10
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3365584Dec 04 23:17
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: RMS says that using #twitter is OK because of several reasons including no requirements like non-free JS. Will edit and publish video soon.Dec 04 23:17
schestowitz__"They almost never do ... that's what people thought about non free software. Centralized services give power to the owners and are frightening."Dec 04 23:17
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3370182Dec 04 23:17
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: In #Holland it's only legal to buy #fireworks the last 2 or 3 days of the year.    Dec 04 23:17
TechrightsBot-tr  Photo by yogrt@pod.orkz.net: https://pod.orkz.net/uploads/images/thumb_medium_fddfe96f11be83f39dba.jpgDec 04 23:17
schestowitz__"Only 350 people? That's more like a Bing statistic."Dec 04 23:17
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.nu.nl | 350 onlinekopers illegaal vuurwerk opgespoord | nu.nl/binnenland | Het laatste nieuws het eerst op nu.nl  [ http://ur1.ca/g59kw ]Dec 04 23:17
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3370139Dec 04 23:18
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: #police #baricade #tractor #excavator #chainDec 04 23:18
TechrightsBot-tr  Photo by sirkodrive@wk3.org: https://wk3.org/uploads/images/thumb_medium_ca044c5a12bab8e9e547.jpgDec 04 23:18
schestowitz__"holy crap"Dec 04 23:18
schestowitz__"Somehow I don't think polarizing people with Microsoft vs. Google is very wise strategy for the people. (Too bad they both seem to be perfectly fine with creating the divide.) Both of them are susceptible to spying people. Their smear campaigns are but empty promises and lies."Dec 04 23:18
schestowitz__"Who has that strategy, Jaro? Why is Google named and blamed for this? Is it not a smear to say that Google has smear campaigns and is the moral equivalent of Microsoft? Can you show me a smear campaign from Google?"Dec 04 23:19
schestowitz__"First of all, I didn't say Google "is the moral equivalent of Microsoft", and while they you are right about my not finding (or even wanting to dig up) dirt on Google, and that they look like they haven't gone past derision this time, Google is still a huge player, and any polarisation is good for them and they do know it. They did ditch the "do no evil" slogan though. So excuse me while I don't fully trust the one corporation who Dec 04 23:19
schestowitz__practically owns all the world's information."Dec 04 23:19
schestowitz__I don't trust Google either, but Microsoft is the corrupt NSA ally that bribes people to demonise Google. In that regard, Google is relatively benign. It did, AFAIK, also give the NSA a bit of a fight.Dec 04 23:20
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3371535Dec 04 23:21
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: In Thailand, rich people lose their army today https://diasp.eu/uploads/images/scaled_full_ff09e7f21e52898bc6a4.jpg like in SpainDec 04 23:21
schestowitz__"Like in Spain? That sounds impossible to me as a (still) Spaniard. I'll need to watch the tv a little."Dec 04 23:21
schestowitz__"not really, the rebells ain't no rebells and the police desn't support them, it's just an armistice because of the kings birthday"Dec 04 23:21
schestowitz__The revolution won't be televisedDec 04 23:21
schestowitz__http://royaldutchshellplc.com/2013/12/04/shell-a-continuing-story-of-over-promise-and-under-delivery/Dec 04 23:31
TechrightsBot-trroyaldutchshellplc.com | Shell: A continuing story of Over-promise and Under-delivery – Royal Dutch Shell plc .com  [ http://ur1.ca/g59mq ]Dec 04 23:31
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3372764Dec 04 23:44
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Federal Agencies Embracing Use Of Open Source Software Code http://www.defensedaily.com/free/Federal-Agencies-Embracing-Use-Of-Open-Source-Software-Code_23557.html #freeswDec 04 23:44
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.defensedaily.com | Federal Agencies Embracing Use Of Open Source Software Code :: Defense Daily  [ http://ur1.ca/g59op ]Dec 04 23:44
schestowitz__"LOL, you don't think the NSA is running things with Windoze ... oh wait, that's how Snowden got his leak material. Nah, the databases have got to be GNU/Linux powered or they would not work, be backdoored, etc."Dec 04 23:45
schestowitz__"I seem to recall a WSJ article not very long after the first stories were published that talked to some folks in the Big Data field and they all agreed the NSA programs were using #Hadoop, #MapReduce, #NoSQL, and others based on the initial slides leaked. The article is probably still pay walled."Dec 04 23:45
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3372600Dec 04 23:47
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Valve joins the Linux Foundation as it prepares its Linux-powered Steam OS and Steam Machines  http://thenextweb.com/insider/2013/12/04/valve-joins-linux-foundation-prepares-linux-powered-steam-os-steam-machines/ #valve #linuxDec 04 23:47
TechrightsBot-tr-> thenextweb.com | Valve Joins the Linux Foundation as it Readies Steam OS  [ http://ur1.ca/g5776 ]Dec 04 23:47
schestowitz__"Could go either way, while I love many of their games and the Steam platform makes getting games easy, they do unfortunately, in their own way, employ digital restrictions management."Dec 04 23:47
schestowitz__"To me, Valve has always seemed like the Google of gaming. It'll help Linux finally become the household standard, of course, but how long until it starts to hinder, undermine, and monopolise both the space and its users?"Dec 04 23:47
schestowitz__"@Dimi I think that's right on."Dec 04 23:48
schestowitz__"@Dimi I think that's right on."?Dec 05 00:01
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3371477Dec 05 00:01
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Tried closing my NatWest and then found out that all British banks recently entered a cartel. All payments go through same system. OligopolyDec 05 00:01
schestowitz__"What, Visa?'Dec 05 00:01
schestowitz__Np, standing orders, direct debits etc. sort/acct codes...Dec 05 00:02
schestowitz__Watching "OVERHEARD" - 2011 HK film about #surveillance and more  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMPr5I-jSy4 Mandarin...Dec 05 00:15
TechrightsBot-trwww.youtube.com | OVERHEARD - YouTube  [ http://ur1.ca/g59tl ]Dec 05 00:15
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/SEEVed/status/408387453225930753Dec 05 00:16
TechrightsBot-tr@SEEVed: @schestowitz be careful you might get a take down notice from Micro.. ah i mean Canonical :PDec 05 00:16
Sosumidon't forget to rename you improvised warfare manual to "my little pony"Dec 05 00:19
Sosumi*yourDec 05 00:19
schestowitz__./ calls Windows "keylogger" http://it.slashdot.org/story/13/12/04/235221/two-million-passwords-compromised-by-keylogger-virus?utm_source=slashdot&utm_medium=twitterDec 05 00:20
schestowitz__Source: http://blog.spiderlabs.com/2013/12/look-what-i-found-moar-pony.htmlDec 05 00:20
TechrightsBot-trblog.spiderlabs.com | Look What I Found:  Moar Pony! - SpiderLabs Anterior  [ http://ur1.ca/g59u1 ]Dec 05 00:20
schestowitz__!google trustwave techrightsDec 05 00:20
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Trustwave, a Microsoft Partner, is Still Spreading Linux ... - Techrights | http://techrights.org/2013/03/08/percoco-fud/Dec 05 00:20
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Linux FUD From Microsoft Proxies Takes 'Security' Flavour | Techrights | http://techrights.org/2013/02/23/fud-against-red-hat/Dec 05 00:20
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - IDC - Techrights | http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/IDCDec 05 00:20
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Former Microsoft Staff Xuxian Jiang Spreads Android FUD | Techrights | http://techrights.org/2012/12/12/xuxian-jiang-vs-android/Dec 05 00:20
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DaemonFC2 seconds agoDec 05 06:00
DaemonFCWhoever said that the private sector is better at creating websites than the government has never tried to log in to their Comcast or Capital One accounts, or god help you, their mobile apps.Dec 05 06:00
DaemonFCOne time, I forgot the "." in my Comcast email address, and it let me log in to manage the account of a different Ryan Farmer, in Bothell, Washington.Dec 05 06:00
DaemonFChttp://doc.opensuse.org/release-notes/x86_64/openSUSE/13.1/Dec 05 06:01
TechrightsBot-trdoc.opensuse.org | openSUSE 13.1 Release Notes  [ http://ur1.ca/g5b5u ]Dec 05 06:01
DaemonFCOpenSUSE 13.1 is out. I wonder if I can successfully make a live USB image this time.Dec 05 06:01
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iophkhttp://www.theverge.com/2013/12/4/5174154/fcc-chairman-tom-wheeler-conflicting-net-neutrality-remarksDec 05 07:33
TechrightsBot-trwww.theverge.com | New FCC chairman Tom Wheeler appears to have conflicting views on net neutrality | The Verge  [ http://ur1.ca/g5bgy ]Dec 05 07:33
iophkhttp://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/12/fcc-chair-isps-should-be-able-to-charge-netflix-for-internet-fast-lane/Dec 05 07:36
TechrightsBot-trarstechnica.com | FCC chair: ISPs should be able to charge Netflix for Internet fast lane | Ars Technica  [ http://ur1.ca/g5bh7 ]Dec 05 07:36
iophkhttp://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2013/dec/04/poorer-countries-privacy-laws-new-technologyDec 05 07:52
TechrightsBot-trwww.theguardian.com | Poorer countries need privacy laws as they adopt new technologies | Global development | theguardian.com  [ http://ur1.ca/g5bjn ]Dec 05 07:53
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3372804Dec 05 07:53
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "My ambition is to be the George Orwell of free and open source software." Delusions of grandeur from Byfield https://twitter.com/bbyfieldDec 05 07:53
TechrightsBot-tr-> twitter.com | bbyfield (bbyfield) on TwitterDec 05 07:53
schestowitz__"Um. Sounds as if you're criticizing Bruce there. From everything I know of him he's been one of the good guys. What gives?"Dec 05 07:53
schestowitz__When he does not agree with someone, then he provokes and demonisesDec 05 07:54
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schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3371477Dec 05 08:01
schestowitz__"I thought most of the world's electronic transactions went through Visa/MC. Is there another system UK banks use?"Dec 05 08:01
schestowitz__Seems so...Dec 05 08:01
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3372643Dec 05 08:02
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Executive director of the PEN American Center on #snowden and #freespeech http://edition.cnn.com/2013/12/04/opinion/snowden-chilling-effect/index.html?iid=article_sidebarDec 05 08:02
TechrightsBot-tr-> edition.cnn.com | Opinion: After Snowden, we're self-censoring and we don't care - CNN.com  [ http://ur1.ca/g58pc ]Dec 05 08:02
schestowitz__"It is a shame that CNN and other big publishers determine what is "out of touch" by printing the same bullshit everywhere."Dec 05 08:02
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3372762Dec 05 08:02
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Ubuntu 12.04 LTS Receives Major Kernel Update http://news.softpedia.com/news/Ubuntu-12-04-LTS-Receives-Major-Kernel-Update-405913.shtml #ubuntu #canonical #gnu #linuxDec 05 08:02
TechrightsBot-tr-> news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu 12.04 LTS Receives Major Kernel Update  [ http://ur1.ca/g5blx ]Dec 05 08:02
schestowitz__"Are Ubuntu distros even up to 3.12.x yet?"Dec 05 08:02
iophk"I am in this race to tell the corporate lobbyists that their days of  setting the agenda in Washington are over. I have done more than any  other candidate in this race to take on lobbyists — and won. They have  not funded my campaign, they will not run my White House, and they will  not drown out the voices of the American people when I am president."Dec 05 08:06
iophkhttp://change.gov/agenda/ethics_agenda/Dec 05 08:06
TechrightsBot-trchange.gov | Ethics | Change.gov: The Obama-Biden Transition TeamDec 05 08:06
iophkhttp://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/johncassidy/2013/05/tom--wheeler-federal-communications-commission.htmlDec 05 08:07
TechrightsBot-trwww.newyorker.com | Obama's Bad Pick: A Former Lobbyist at the F.C.C. : The New Yorker  [ http://ur1.ca/g5bml ]Dec 05 08:07
iophk"I think that we're seeing the market evolve in such a way that  there will be variations in pricing, there will be variations in  service," Wheeler said. He then said that a "two-sided market" could  develop"Dec 05 08:11
iophkhttp://www.theverge.com/2013/12/4/5174154/fcc-chairman-tom-wheeler-conflicting-net-neutrality-remarksDec 05 08:11
iophkHaving users paying for both ends of the connection seems to be his plan.Dec 05 08:11
DaemonFCOuch.Dec 05 08:21
DaemonFCMy first phone bill is $152.Dec 05 08:21
DaemonFCThat included part of last month and a one time $36 activation fee though.Dec 05 08:22
DaemonFCIt should be less than $100 next month.Dec 05 08:22
DaemonFCIt *is* a pretty nice phone. :)Dec 05 08:22
iophkhttp://www.smh.com.au/world/nsa-gathering-5-billion-mobile-phone-records-a-day-20131205-hv4fv.htmlDec 05 08:35
TechrightsBot-trwww.smh.com.au | NSA gathering 5 billion mobile phone records a day  [ http://ur1.ca/g5br5 ]Dec 05 08:35
iophkhttp://www.bsdcan.org/2014/papers.phpDec 05 09:07
TechrightsBot-trwww.bsdcan.org | BSDCan 2014 - Call for papersDec 05 09:07
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MinceRgeekingsDec 05 09:48
iophkhttp://blog.djm.net.au/2013/11/chacha20-and-poly1305-in-openssh.htmlDec 05 09:50
TechrightsBot-trblog.djm.net.au | djm's personal weblog: ChaCha20 and Poly1305 in OpenSSH  [ http://ur1.ca/g5c37 ]Dec 05 09:50
iophkhttp://fsfe.org/news/nl/nl-201312.en.htmlDec 05 11:03
TechrightsBot-trfsfe.org | FSFE Newsletter - December 2013  [ http://ur1.ca/g5cdl ]Dec 05 11:03
iophkhttp://www.forbes.com/sites/markfidelman/2013/12/05/heres-why-microsofts-new-mobile-strategy-will-help-overtake-apple-in-3-years/Dec 05 12:16
TechrightsBot-trwww.forbes.com | Here's Why Microsoft's New Mobile Strategy Will Help It Overtake Apple In 3 Years - Forbes  [ http://ur1.ca/g5ctw ]Dec 05 12:16
iophkThe only selling point is lock-in to M$ Exchange and such.Dec 05 12:16
iophkThat has been broken now by Zentyal.Dec 05 12:16
iophkhttp://www.zentyal.org/2013/10/zentyal-launches-the-only-native-microsoft-exchange-replacement/Dec 05 12:16
TechrightsBot-trwww.zentyal.org | News - Zentyal launches the only native Microsoft Exchange replacement | Linux Small Business Server  [ http://ur1.ca/fzqtk ]Dec 05 12:16
iophkIt's just a matter of time before the clients are ported to Android and various distros.Dec 05 12:17
iophkHowever, in the long run, it is necessary for companies to get out of the time sink that is Exchange.  Dec 05 12:17
iophkUnless they actually like the lost mails.Dec 05 12:17
MinceRindeedDec 05 12:19
MinceRalso, the broken replies and threadingDec 05 12:19
MinceRand the nonstandard everythingDec 05 12:20
iophkM$ is involved: Dec 05 13:57
iophkhttp://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/12/googles-copyright-win-against-oracle-is-in-danger-on-appeal/Dec 05 13:57
TechrightsBot-trarstechnica.com | Google’s copyright win against Oracle is in danger on appeal | Ars Technica  [ http://ur1.ca/g5d7u ]Dec 05 13:57
iophknormal rules will no longer apply to the case.Dec 05 13:58
iophkhttp://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/02/microsoft-foresees-chaos-if-google-v-oracle-result-stands/Dec 05 14:00
TechrightsBot-trarstechnica.com | Microsoft foresees chaos if Oracle v. Google result stands | Ars Technica  [ http://ur1.ca/cvb3f ]Dec 05 14:00
iophkoldDec 05 14:00
MinceRhttp://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?id=3194Dec 05 14:04
TechrightsBot-trwww.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal  [ http://ur1.ca/g5d8u ]Dec 05 14:04
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Alexweir1949/status/408612809099186176Dec 05 15:42
TechrightsBot-tr@Alexweir1949: @schestowitz @BillGates believes correctly that in our modern society money can buy most Media & Politicians. I find his activities patheticDec 05 15:42
schestowitzHe likes power, he has a God complex since childhood.Dec 05 15:42
schestowitz@Alexweir1949 @BillGates He likes power, he has a God complex since childhood. So he thinks he's DoingGood{tm}Dec 05 15:42
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/MariusNestor/status/408603572373184512Dec 05 15:43
TechrightsBot-tr@MariusNestor: @schestowitz Thank you for the coverage, Dr. Roy :) Keep up the very good work at @tuxmachines!Dec 05 15:43
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Alexweir1949/status/408622938108473344  https://twitter.com/Alexweir1949/status/408623102827180032https://twitter.com/Alexweir1949/status/408623102827180032Dec 05 15:48
TechrightsBot-tr@Alexweir1949: @schestowitz @BillGates I have applied several times to Roy Steiner for funding for my http://t.co/fGXNkJSMyC - amazingly puerile excuses!Dec 05 15:48
TechrightsBot-tr-> cd3wd.com | NO TITLEDec 05 15:48
TechrightsBot-tr@Alexweir1949: @schestowitz @BillGates no one except me will tell the king that he has no clothesDec 05 15:48
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Alexweir1949/status/408626542240358400Dec 05 17:16
TechrightsBot-tr@Alexweir1949: @schestowitz @BillGates so much money, so much potential, but he wastes it on stupid & pointless projects. It is almost a sin #BMGFDec 05 17:16
schestowitzGates gives money to what goves him money. It's merely investment for profit, ROI.Dec 05 17:16
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Sosumihttp://enenews.com/expert-its-getting-worse-and-worse-at-fukushima-plant-infrastructure-deteriorating-very-fast-corrosion-tepco-adviser-i-doubt-ice-wall-can-help-much-scientist-warns-of-radiation-pulse-toDec 05 19:28
TechrightsBot-trenenews.com | Expert: It’s getting worse and worse at Fukushima plant; Infrastructure deteriorating, corroding very fast — Tepco Adviser: I doubt ice wall can help much — Scientist warns of radiation ‘pulse’ to ocean (AUDIO)  [ http://ur1.ca/g5egc ]Dec 05 19:28
Sosumidon't forget the media blackout about the issueDec 05 19:28
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3374500Dec 05 19:48
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The #uk and #us are in debt because they got looted from the inside http://www.forbes.com/sites/frederickallen/2012/07/23/super-rich-hide-21-trillion-offshore-study-says/ lack of money is a fiction.Dec 05 19:48
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.forbes.com | Super Rich Hide $21 Trillion Offshore, Study Says - Forbes  [ http://ur1.ca/cgqt3 ]Dec 05 19:48
schestowitz__"Is there anything more recent about this? Im curious if theres some estimates done during this year."Dec 05 19:48
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schestowitz__http://img5.joyreactor.com/pics/post/car-accident-guy-971235.gifDec 05 20:15
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Sosumithe guy being greeted by a blond after the accidentDec 05 20:58
Sosumimust be thinkingDec 05 20:58
Sosumilook it's a valkyrie and she's here to take me to valahalaDec 05 20:59
MinceR:)Dec 05 21:01
Sosumihttp://blog.malwarebytes.org/fraud-scam/2013/11/potentially-unwanted-miners-toolbar-peddlers-use-your-system-to-make-btc/Dec 05 21:11
TechrightsBot-trblog.malwarebytes.org | Potentially Unwanted Miners | Malwarebytes Unpacked | Malwarebytes Unpacked  [ http://ur1.ca/g5evv ]Dec 05 21:11
SosumiI mentioned a while ago about an indie game company shipping a stealthy bitcoin miner with their gameDec 05 21:12
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MinceRhttp://www.twolumps.net/comics/20131204.jpgDec 05 22:38
Sosumiand Mandela is kaputDec 05 23:05
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DaemonFChttps://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/994981_718633718147609_1181787609_n.jpgDec 05 23:26
MinceRgnDec 05 23:33
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DaemonFCAmazon is taking their time with me recent order.Dec 06 01:25
DaemonFCI ordered the stuff on the 2nd, and they say it won't be here until about the 16th.Dec 06 01:25
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DaemonFCMy mom phoned me from the bookstore several hours ago. It got me wondering why we still need bookstores or physical books.Dec 06 05:28
DaemonFCWell, the main reason that I can think of is because we have malicious devices that attack user's rights, such as the crApple iBad/HypePhone/iPOS, and the Amazon Swindle. These malicious devices encumber e-books with digital restrictions malware, which make it hard to share, and impossible to "move your books to a different shelf". So, while physical books should be obsolete and anachronistic, they still do serve a purpose. Owners of physicalDec 06 05:28
DaemonFCbooks have always had the legal right to sell their copy, give it away, lend it to a friend, or donate it to a public library to help thousands of people.Dec 06 05:28
DaemonFCI don't buy e-books from stores that encumber them with DRM. I just share unencumbered copies with bittorrent.Dec 06 05:28
DaemonFCSoftware cannot serve two masters. These devices are allowing corporations and publishers to veto the owner of the device, and that is never acceptable. Free software exists to do what the user wants, and what people want right now is the ability to make copies to help their friend. I don't see anything unethical about that.Dec 06 05:28
DaemonFC2 seconds agoDec 06 05:59
DaemonFCSomeone asked me if Dune books are all I read.Dec 06 05:59
DaemonFCWell, there's so many of them that it took me from age 17 to age 29 to make it through them all the first time.Dec 06 05:59
DaemonFCI lost my copies of Dune, Children of Dune, Dune: House Atreides, Dune: House Harkonnen, and a couple of others along the way. I'm glad that The Pirate Bay offers such a nice cloud backup system. LOLDec 06 05:59
DaemonFCWhat the hell is using all of my battery power on my phone?Dec 06 06:08
DaemonFCI JUST charged it and it's down to 66% already.Dec 06 06:09
DaemonFCI turned off vibrate on touch. I set the screen to blank after 15 seconds, and I turned the display backlight down to like 20%.Dec 06 06:09
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DaemonFCschestowitz: Microsoft has an app in the Android store that is called Switch to Windows.Dec 06 06:16
DaemonFCIt says it can help you backup your files, move to Windows Phone, and then suggest replacements for apps you use on Android.Dec 06 06:16
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MinceRif it runs android, settings/battery tells you what used how much of the powerDec 06 06:59
MinceR(more or less)Dec 06 07:00
iophkhttp://torrentfreak.com/megaupload-slams-u-s-secret-move-to-share-evidence-131205/Dec 06 07:44
TechrightsBot-trtorrentfreak.com | Megaupload Slams U.S. Secret Move to Share Evidence With Copyright Holders | TorrentFreak  [ http://ur1.ca/g5haf ]Dec 06 07:44
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3376408Dec 06 07:53
TechrightsBot-tr@linux@joindiaspora.com reshared: How?Dec 06 07:54
schestowitz__He's got a good knock on the head or two and may have died later from swelling. The violence of this accident is incredible, even at the apparently low speeds. Much of it was expended collapsing his trunk, so he might have really walked away from it."|Dec 06 07:54
Snowleaksangebet kim dotcom wishes he moved his assets to bitcoinDec 06 08:00
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3375777Dec 06 08:02
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: They're poor because we help the poor, British government alleges http://www.theguardian.com/society/patrick-butler-cuts-blog/2013/dec/04/suppressed-tory-report-welfare-reform-link-to-foodbanks-homelessness how insultingDec 06 08:02
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.theguardian.com | Suppressed report: welfare reform link to homelessness and food bank use | Society | theguardian.com  [ http://ur1.ca/g5hcg ]Dec 06 08:02
schestowitz__"Because of hand outs instead of low wages? Amazing."Dec 06 08:02
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3375758Dec 06 08:02
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "Microsoft, EMC, and Netapp filed a brief in favor of Oracle" in case against #linux http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/12/googles-copyright-win-against-oracle-is-in-danger-on-appeal/Dec 06 08:02
TechrightsBot-tr-> arstechnica.com | Google’s copyright win against Oracle is in danger on appeal | Ars Technica  [ http://ur1.ca/g5d7u ]Dec 06 08:02
schestowitz__"Where is Groklaw when you need it?"Dec 06 08:02
schestowitz__at groklaw.net. But not enough people supported the site financially.Dec 06 08:03
schestowitz__"Oracle has fans? Oracle even claims to have fans?!"Dec 06 08:03
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3375331Dec 06 08:04
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The Copyright Cartel Takes Over Schools to Deceive and Indoctrinate Children http://techrights.org/2013/12/05/indoctrinating-children/ #copyright #monopolyDec 06 08:04
schestowitz__"Thanks for the kind words and good perspective. Copyright and authoritarian propaganda is a major reason <a href="http://phys.org/news/2013-12-poll-americans-dont.html">people in the US no longer trust their neighbors</a>."Dec 06 08:04
TechrightsBot-tr-> techrights.org | The Copyright Cartel Takes Over Schools to Deceive and Indoctrinate Children | Techrights  [ http://ur1.ca/g5hcm ]Dec 06 08:04
TechrightsBot-trphys.org | Poll:  Americans don't trust one another  [ http://ur1.ca/g5hcn ]Dec 06 08:04
iophkhttp://torrentfreak.com/court-open-source-project-liable-for-3rd-party-drm-busting-coding-131205/Dec 06 08:12
TechrightsBot-trtorrentfreak.com | Court: Open Source Project Liable For 3rd Party DRM-Busting Coding | TorrentFreak  [ http://ur1.ca/g5e60 ]Dec 06 08:12
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iophkhttp://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/12/house-votes-325-91-to-pass-innovation-act-first-anti-patent-troll-bill/Dec 06 08:14
TechrightsBot-trarstechnica.com | House votes 325-91 to pass Innovation Act, first anti-patent-troll bill | Ars Technica  [ http://ur1.ca/g5he6 ]Dec 06 08:14
Snowleaksangewhy are dems against loser pays?Dec 06 08:19
Snowleaksangesounds good to meDec 06 08:19
iophkThe whole thing is a distraction against the core problem,  which would be software patents themselves.Dec 06 08:20
Snowleaksangeoh i guess they want a limit for small companies on loser payersDec 06 08:20
Snowleaksangethats reasonableDec 06 08:20
iophkAbout loser pays, it seems that it is mostly the large companies that win.Dec 06 08:20
iophkAdding an additional fine to the small (legitimate) companies would kill some.Dec 06 08:20
Snowleaksangestill seems improvement to meDec 06 08:21
Snowleaksangeloser pays will make patent trolls think twice about filing illegitimate casesDec 06 08:22
iophkI haven't followed the details.Dec 06 08:22
iophkNot really.Dec 06 08:22
Snowleaksangeas far as software patents, i dont have problem in principleDec 06 08:22
iophkIf they lose, they just fold and the mothership spins up shell company n+1Dec 06 08:22
Snowleaksangepretty sure not that easyDec 06 08:22
iophkRead the old Groklaw site.  They cover why software is not patentable.Dec 06 08:23
iophkSome companies have 1000's of shell companies.Dec 06 08:23
iophkhttp://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121220/02365821447/intellectual-ventures-dont-mind-our-2000-shell-companies-thats-totally-normal.shtmlDec 06 08:23
TechrightsBot-trwww.techdirt.com | Intellectual Ventures: Don't Mind Our 2000 Shell Companies, That's Totally Normal | Techdirt  [ http://ur1.ca/g5hez ]Dec 06 08:23
iophkTrolls one and allDec 06 08:23
iophkOther trolls do likewise.Dec 06 08:24
Snowleaksangebankruptcy court is really complicatedDec 06 08:24
iophkNot if the shell company has no assets.Dec 06 08:24
iophkSure it can drag out in court if the plaintiff wants to but at the end of the day there are no assets to seize.Dec 06 08:25
iophkNothing to liquidate.  Dec 06 08:25
Snowleaksangei dont think its that simpleDec 06 08:25
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iophkThe shell insulates the parent company from the lawsuits and bankruptcy.Dec 06 08:27
Snowleaksangefor one thing, im guessing the suing entity has to actually own the patentDec 06 08:29
Snowleaksangeso if declare bankruptcy on loser pays, seems would lose patentDec 06 08:29
iophkAFAIK they only have to license the patent but then IANALDec 06 08:30
iophkhttp://www.techdirt.com/articles/20131205/11253225471/holy-see-pope-criticizes-tpp-taftattip-wto-speech.shtmlDec 06 08:30
TechrightsBot-trwww.techdirt.com | Holy See (The Pope) Criticizes TPP And TAFTA/TTIP In WTO Speech | Techdirt  [ http://ur1.ca/g5g8h ]Dec 06 08:30
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iophkhttp://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/05/nyregion/unarmed-man-is-charged-with-wounding-bystanders-shot-by-police-near-times-square.html?_r=0Dec 06 08:31
TechrightsBot-trmyaccount.nytimes.com | Log In - The New York Times  [ http://ur1.ca/g5hfz ]Dec 06 08:31
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schestowitz__https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/408867146694152192 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/408868173036158976Dec 06 08:36
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: Megaupload Slams U.S. Secret Move to Share Evidence With Copyright Holders  http://t.co/TLosAtrVgj war on terrorism?Dec 06 08:36
TechrightsBot-tr-> torrentfreak.com | Megaupload Slams U.S. Secret Move to Share Evidence With Copyright Holders | TorrentFreakDec 06 08:36
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: Manchester Cryptopary tomorrow. Good chance to shield laptops, tablets etc. Impossibility with tracking devices (mobile phones).Dec 06 08:36
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/408869710177255424Dec 06 08:36
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: #Mandela on Change (not the Obama way) https://t.co/GW2t7Wz1KoDec 06 08:36
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.joindiaspora.com | Diaspora* / Sign inDec 06 08:36
SnowleaksangeTo prove infringement, the patent owner must establish that the accused infringer practises all the requirements of at least one of the claims of the patent.Dec 06 08:40
Snowleaksangebankruptcy fraud also crime in usDec 06 08:41
iophkIf the shell company has no assets, it's easy to run out of money and fold.Dec 06 08:41
iophkIt only stays active as long as the parent company feeds it money.Dec 06 08:41
Snowleaksangebankruptcy audits are all about tracing shell corporationsDec 06 08:42
Snowleaksangeor fraud auditsDec 06 08:43
schestowitz__ https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/408878265282355200   https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/408878788538540032    https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/408879469567680512Dec 06 08:48
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: Holy See (The Pope) Criticizes TPP And TAFTA/TTIP In WTO Speech http://t.co/riHgpstdrj #tpp #tafta #ttipDec 06 08:48
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: Metal fork http://t.co/5O3Lzi8aMsDec 06 08:48
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: At age 90 #mandela finally saw the CIA and Bush not characterising him as a 'terrorist'. Says a lot about how White House perceives terror.Dec 06 08:48
schestowitz__ https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/408879797012824064  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/408880140408860672 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/408880140408860672Dec 06 08:50
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: Nelson #Mandela Was On The U.S. Terrorist Watch List Until 2008  http://t.co/dRHEO6WpvS now you know how to read "terrorist" when WH says soDec 06 08:50
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.huffingtonpost.com | Nelson Mandela Was On The U.S. Terrorist Watch List Until 2008Dec 06 08:50
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: By standards of the White House, he could just as well be blown to pieces by a predator drone. But #Obama thought visiting him was better.Dec 06 08:50
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/408881262590316545Dec 06 08:51
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: Tweet number 97,000. Getting close to 6 digits after almost 5 years.Dec 06 08:51
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/408881491859357696Dec 06 08:52
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: The closest #Obama ever got to #Nobel #peace was meeting someone who had one; everything else was a self-serving political PR charade.Dec 06 08:52
iophk another week and it will hit 6 digits ;)Dec 06 08:52
schestowitz__no, monthDec 06 08:58
schestowitz__I used almost all the links you had sent meDec 06 08:58
iophkokDec 06 08:58
schestowitz__Twitter is still a good way to reach broad audiencesDec 06 08:58
schestowitz__and RMS is not against it, he just doesn't use itDec 06 08:59
iophkNor do IDec 06 08:59
schestowitz__never mind that it's proprietary at the back endDec 06 08:59
schestowitz__moving to another room, brbDec 06 08:59
iophkI've not found a good client and the back end is a problem.Dec 06 08:59
iophkThey've also recently closed off some APIsDec 06 08:59
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schestowitzI plan to post some articles about GNU/Linux todayDec 06 09:15
schestowitzif work does not interfere muchDec 06 09:15
iophkCoolDec 06 09:16
schestowitzSoon I get my 10-day holiday, so I can definitely catch up with  a lot of my draftsDec 06 09:16
schestowitzI also prodded Rick re Linux DevicesDec 06 09:16
iophkYes.Dec 06 09:16
schestowitzMaybe over xmas I'll mass-download from Web Archive and rehostDec 06 09:17
iophkThat would stir the pot.Dec 06 09:17
schestowitzwhose?Dec 06 09:17
schestowitzQuinstreet would hardly mindDec 06 09:17
iophkquinstreetDec 06 09:17
schestowitzand it's not klike Rick et al. do thisDec 06 09:17
schestowitzIt's some "FOSS radical"Dec 06 09:17
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TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: The NSA’s Back Door Tactics Made the Web Messy  http://t.co/SAMVLv9KDa the price we all pay for unsecure-by-design computingDec 06 09:44
TechrightsBot-tr-> schestowitz.com | schestowitz.com  » Blog Archive   » The NSA’s Back Door Tactics Made the Web MessyDec 06 09:44
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Cirrus_Minorthis  https://github.com/np1/pmsDec 06 09:51
TechrightsBot-trgithub.com | np1/pms · GitHubDec 06 09:51
Cirrus_Minori packaged it for arch, its in AUR pms-gitDec 06 09:52
Cirrus_MinornjoiDec 06 09:52
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iophkhttp://www.techdirt.com/articles/20131205/07061525466/unarmed-man-charged-with-assault-because-nyc-police-shot-him-hit-random-pedestrians.shtmlDec 06 11:04
TechrightsBot-trwww.techdirt.com | Unarmed Man Charged With Assault Because NYC Police Shot At Him And Hit Random Pedestrians | Techdirt  [ http://ur1.ca/g5hyv ]Dec 06 11:04
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/408914837239255040  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/408916499748114432  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/408916616140054528Dec 06 11:23
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: #Ubuntu to include torrent search in Dash search  http://t.co/rCGe7LLIxL available by default, not on though, unlike the spywareDec 06 11:23
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.muktware.com | Ubuntu to include torrent search in Dash search | MuktwareMuktwareDec 06 11:23
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: #Linutop 5 is a fanless, Linux mini-desktop (without outdated specs)  http://t.co/EfcyIkhJ9b #gnu #linuxDec 06 11:23
TechrightsBot-tr-> liliputing.com | Linutop 5 is a fanless, Linux mini-desktop (with outdated specs) - LiliputingDec 06 11:23
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: Send in the clones: Oracle, CentOS catch up to Red Hat Linux 6.5 http://t.co/lVorN8k82J #rhel #gnu #linux #serverDec 06 11:23
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.theregister.co.uk | Send in the clones: Oracle, CentOS catch up to Red Hat Linux 6.5 • The RegisterDec 06 11:23
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/408916871879340032  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/408917505705771008  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/408917648354066432Dec 06 11:26
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: Will you buy a Steam Machine for $499?  http://t.co/ygxqPe2oZs #steam #gnu #linuxDec 06 11:26
TechrightsBot-tr-> m.itworld.com | Will you buy a Steam Machine for $499?  | ITworldDec 06 11:26
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: Quad-Monitor AMD/NVIDIA Linux Gaming: What You Need To Know  http://t.co/sVbdvu4p1i awesome hardware journalism from #phoronixDec 06 11:26
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.phoronix.com | [Phoronix] Quad-Monitor AMD/NVIDIA Linux Gaming: What You Need To KnowDec 06 11:26
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: #Linux #Kernel 3.12.3 Is Now Available for Download  http://t.co/0rNq4zV29lDec 06 11:26
TechrightsBot-tr-> news.softpedia.com | Linux Kernel 3.12.3 Is Now Available for DownloadDec 06 11:26
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/408917854982250496  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/408918085396344832  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/408918345866825728Dec 06 11:26
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: Testing the New ZaTab Open Hackable Android Tablet  http://t.co/ASPp1GFdrv #zatab #linux #androidDec 06 11:27
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.linux.com | Testing the New ZaTab Open Hackable Android Tablet  | Linux.comDec 06 11:27
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: How Ubuntu translates hi-tech into humanity  http://t.co/NLegfzrNYe #ubuntu at the #guardianDec 06 11:27
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.telegraph.co.uk | Ubuntu by Canonical: hi-tech linux humanity - TelegraphDec 06 11:27
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: #Oracle integrates #DTrace debugger into its #Linux distribution http://t.co/FrFAh2W3Nh what about the rest?Dec 06 11:27
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.pcworld.com | Oracle integrates DTrace debugger into its Linux distribution | PCWorldDec 06 11:27
schestowitziophk: https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/408920684233236480Dec 06 11:29
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: Fewer people trust the police (in an age when it's perceived to be protecting the rich) and the police is to blame http://t.co/mW4Scmt7R6Dec 06 11:29
iophkNot even protecting the rich, just causing mayhem.Dec 06 11:30
iophk"stop hitting my fist with your face"Dec 06 11:30
schestowitzit's what they saw on TV before joining the forceDec 06 11:30
iophkProbably.Dec 06 11:31
iophkI've heard that trends in their behavior follow closely what is portrayed on tv over the yearsDec 06 11:31
iophkIf we got rid of the cop shows we have now and did re-runs of Andy Griffith, I wonder if that would have a positive effect?Dec 06 11:31
iophkMaybe do a re-make in an urban setting.Dec 06 11:31
iophkhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Andy_Griffith_Show#Plot_and_charactersDec 06 11:34
TechrightsBot-tren.wikipedia.org | The Andy Griffith Show - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia  [ http://ur1.ca/g5i2a ]Dec 06 11:34
iophkno Robocop thereDec 06 11:34
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/408924191279550464 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/408925758846160896 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/408924989333991424Dec 06 12:15
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: Piixl Jetpack Steam Machine Attaches to the Back Your TV  http://t.co/6DsegZgo89 #gnu #linux #tvDec 06 12:15
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.ign.com | Piixl Jetpack Steam Machine Attaches to the Back Your TV - IGNDec 06 12:15
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: #UK citizen sues #Microsoft over Prism private data leak to #NSA  http://t.co/wWzVPpxPX6 http://t.co/9GcWDY2AqG http://t.co/k0yMxMRpadDec 06 12:15
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.computerweekly.com | UK citizen sues Microsoft over Prism private data leak to NSADec 06 12:15
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.pcpro.co.uk | Briton sues Microsoft over NSA data spying | Security | News | PC ProDec 06 12:15
TechrightsBot-tr ( status 404 @ http://readwrite.com/2013/12/05/microsoft-nsa-customer-data-malware-cyber-attacks#awesm=~opeZ2jQhRlwGtn )Dec 06 12:15
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: Five billion tracking devices http://t.co/PGovdxwiex can't they subsidise tracking devices for the remaining 2 billion people?Dec 06 12:15
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.independent.co.uk | NSA collects data 'revealing location of five billion mobile phones every day' - Americas - World - The IndependentDec 06 12:15
schestowitziophk: http://readwrite.com/2013/12/05/microsoft-nsa-customer-data-malware-cyber-attacks#awesm=~opf6jZrIJa4p14Dec 06 12:15
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iophkAll bark and no bite, and little enough bark at that.Dec 06 12:16
iophkIt's clearly hollow PR given their actions and early engagement in the programme.Dec 06 12:17
iophkAgain they trot out that look-but-don't-touch Shared Source scam.Dec 06 12:17
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/408926432463962112 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/408927638074695680 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/408927911841132544Dec 06 12:22
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: When it comes to the #nsa #microsoft is not just "following orders"; it leads the way in exchange for gov contracts http://t.co/fug0FsaCh0Dec 06 12:22
TechrightsBot-tr-> techrights.org | Microsoft and the NSA - TechrightsDec 06 12:22
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: Spooks ban #Obama from using iPhones http://t.co/FafIyDuZV6 they should know it's a trap. They put the baits in it.Dec 06 12:22
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.theregister.co.uk | NSA sez NO to prez: Spooks ban Obama from using iPhones • The RegisterDec 06 12:22
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: #NSA is the Ministry of Truth http://t.co/6e6F5L0KffDec 06 12:22
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.newyorker.com | How to Tell When the N.S.A. Is Lying : The New YorkerDec 06 12:22
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/408928219107446784 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/408928861884518400  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/408929302315794432  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/408931692347686912Dec 06 12:24
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: Mr. "yes we scan" says he will offer 'reforms' to #nsa - no more biscuits to NSA staff? http://t.co/il5qnP5Zza http://t.co/mty5xOiC2dDec 06 12:24
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.bloomberg.com | Obama to Propose Curbs on NSA Spying to Safeguard Privacy - BloombergDec 06 12:24
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.reuters.com | Obama says he will propose NSA reforms | ReutersDec 06 12:24
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: Obama Praises NSA, Promises Future ‘Self-Restraint’  http://t.co/LgZbCcae8I two-faced back-stabber. #obama #hopeless #nsaDec 06 12:24
TechrightsBot-tr-> news.antiwar.com | Obama Praises NSA, Promises Future ‘Self-Restraint’  --   News from Antiwar.comDec 06 12:24
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: The cellphone location database of NSA is named FASCIA (5 billion records per day). Nice. FASCISM and CIA in the same codename.Dec 06 12:24
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: NSA Website Down Again: DDoOS Attack Or 'Internal Error' At Fault?  http://t.co/SVG0EKA9i4 ... https://t.co/bscwoHaWBXDec 06 12:24
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.ibtimes.com | NSA Website Down Again: DDoOS Attack Or 'Internal Error' At Fault?Dec 06 12:24
TechrightsBot-tr-> joindiaspora.com | NSA Website Down ...Dec 06 12:24
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/SEEVed/status/408929732583899136 https://twitter.com/SEEVed/status/408929408657809408Dec 06 12:26
TechrightsBot-tr@SEEVed: @schestowitz one sec the #NSA's top partner is #Microsoft so make that Bing MapsDec 06 12:26
TechrightsBot-tr@SEEVed: @schestowitz i think they use a spy sat + Google Earth for the rest :DDec 06 12:26
schestowitzMaybe they use Google's services/Microsoft's spymap to overlay their cellphone location data, matching with house/biz namesDec 06 12:27
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/SEEVed/status/408909268197183488Dec 06 12:31
TechrightsBot-tr@SEEVed: @schestowitz something to share http://t.co/vhNG2TL6i5 #Linux #Boom in 4 monthsDec 06 12:31
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/isDavidNelson/status/408882050137989120Dec 06 12:31
TechrightsBot-tr@isDavidNelson: @schestowitz all by hand? #alwayswantedtoknowDec 06 12:31
schestowitzyes, alwaysDec 06 12:31
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/SEEVed/status/408936138615713792Dec 06 12:32
TechrightsBot-tr@SEEVed: @schestowitz its a shame they aren't using Apple maps user in Germany would show up in Ireland :DDec 06 12:32
schestowitzLOL!Dec 06 12:32
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/408935865738878976  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/408936136271470592  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/408936494544719872Dec 06 12:33
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: The #NSA worldwide cellphone collection #espionage operation, combined with Google Maps/StreetView (+MAC addresses) = digital privatised spyDec 06 12:33
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: People are voluntarily annotating Google Maps or Microsoft's equivalent. Remember that #KeyHole (Maps/StreetView) funded by the CIA.Dec 06 12:33
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: #gnu #linux HUGE in #ethiopia this year http://t.co/RlR7qgunDPDec 06 12:33
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/408937853587304448 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/408938264138362882  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/408938751327735808Dec 06 12:41
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: #NSA Spying: The Effects On Those Who Exposed It http://t.co/v4O7LvUW6x and those behind it: http://t.co/NKazX6vA17 impeach?Dec 06 12:41
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.siliconbeat.com | NSA spying: the effects on those who exposed it | SiliconBeatDec 06 12:41
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.businessweek.com | Obama defends NSA against latest spying report - BusinessweekDec 06 12:41
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: "NSA surveillance allegations have led to countries questioning the country's commitment to Internet freedom" http://t.co/ACQc5ffkywDec 06 12:41
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.computerworld.com | The NSA scandal has damaged U.S. credibility online - ComputerworldDec 06 12:41
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: Privatising the #cia for private profits derived from black budgets (public/national debt and tax) http://t.co/ni5IpbHlipDec 06 12:41
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.ft.com | CIA-backed Palantir valued at $9bn - FT.comDec 06 12:41
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/408939517111193600  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/408939696774217729 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/408939966799302656Dec 06 12:46
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: It's An Interesting World Where #Wikipedia Is More Accurate Than Both The #CIA And The #WallStreetJournal  http://t.co/j3brFUBP5kDec 06 12:46
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.forbes.com | It's An Interesting World Where Wikipedia Is More Accurate Than Both The CIA And The Wall Street Journal - ForbesDec 06 12:46
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: First UK legal challenge to CIA drones reaches Court of Appeal  http://t.co/DvT14KwNYH #uk #cia #drone #assassinationDec 06 12:46
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.thebureauinvestigates.com | First UK legal challenge to CIA drones reaches Court of Appeal | The Bureau of Investigative JournalismDec 06 12:46
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: #cia "has employed both private contractors and some of the world’s most notorious prisoners" http://t.co/w9UZpP5TNgDec 06 12:46
TechrightsBot-tr-> original.antiwar.com | How the CIA Bungled the War on Terror  by Tom Engelhardt  -- Antiwar.comDec 06 12:46
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Alexweir1949/status/408943067375616000Dec 06 12:58
TechrightsBot-tr@Alexweir1949: @schestowitz USA kill approx 100,000 humans /year. UK 30,000 humans/year. About same as #assad. #ContinousWar #PrinceHarry enjoys itDec 06 12:58
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/408941283047391232 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/408941566762688512  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/408942325084487680Dec 06 12:59
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: Letter to the editor (about #drone assassinations): Obama 'Just As Guilty As Assad' http://t.co/EPsjf0JHplDec 06 12:59
TechrightsBot-tr-> articles.courant.com | Obama 'Just As Guilty As Assad' - Hartford CourantDec 06 12:59
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: Obama war chiefs widen drone kill box  http://t.co/xB1j5Rg5Mk Obama's #skynet only gets more brutal than Bush'sDec 06 12:59
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.washingtontimes.com | Kill team: Obama war chiefs widen drone death zones - Washington TimesDec 06 12:59
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: US ally (bribed by #cia years ago) accuses U.S. of civilian deaths in November #drone strike http://t.co/npyIEn1MvyDec 06 12:59
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.latimes.com | Karzai accuses U.S. of civilian deaths in November drone strike - latimes.comDec 06 12:59
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/408943030927114241  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/408943045523304448Dec 06 12:59
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: "Washington has suspended ground shipments of NATO military equipment out of Afghanistan through Pakistan" http://t.co/qWULfb6QZ9Dec 06 12:59
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.nation.com.pk | Self-inflicted injuriesDec 06 13:00
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: Context: "murder by a drone of a Taliban leader conducting peace negotiations with Islamabad"  http://t.co/pgr3gO9CPwDec 06 13:00
TechrightsBot-tr-> english.pravda.ru | US drones learn to kill on Talibs - English pravda.ruDec 06 13:00
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Alexweir1949/status/408943507320344576Dec 06 13:10
TechrightsBot-tr@Alexweir1949: @schestowitz usa & uk need legislation 2 enforce gov 2 declare daily deathcount totals 4 'enemy' & 4 own side. can be like FTSE or DowJonesDec 06 13:10
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/408944430654451712  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/408944916128358400  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/408945338838695936Dec 06 13:10
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: The "T" word, "taliban", needs historical context. "65,000 tons of U.S.-made weapons and ammunition a year" for them http://t.co/WGG4aBt0OeDec 06 13:10
TechrightsBot-tr-> en.wikipedia.org | Taliban - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaDec 06 13:10
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: Ho Ho Ho http://t.co/go9tooAh6sDec 06 13:10
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: Cameron on #mandela http://t.co/ugfXL59CnG don't let #revisionism reign. #uk #southafrica #apartheidDec 06 13:10
TechrightsBot-tr-> ronnierocket.tumblr.com | Ronnie Rocket Tumblr - Nelson Mandela will die soon. Today, tomorrow,...Dec 06 13:10
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/408945619689283584  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/408946004923527168Dec 06 13:10
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: Just remember what many Tories thought of Nelson Mandela in the apartheid years  http://t.co/wtXjCPeASl and US politicians alsoDec 06 13:10
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.theguardian.com | Just remember what many Tories thought of Nelson Mandela in the apartheid years | Suzanne Moore | Comment is free | The GuardianDec 06 13:10
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: #Journalism as #terrorism in the #uk http://t.co/xIDuVqLzYhDec 06 13:10
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.reuters.com | British news staff may face terrorism charges over Snowden leaks | ReutersDec 06 13:10
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/408946761110421504Dec 06 13:12
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: The Guardian's latest big project helped show that when our politicians say "terrorist" we should interpret as "challenges those in Power".Dec 06 13:12
schestowitzhttp://america.aljazeera.com/opinions/2013/12/grieving-yemena-sinnocentdead.htmlDec 06 13:13
TechrightsBot-tramerica.aljazeera.com | The US killed my brother with a drone. I want to know why | Al Jazeera America  [ http://ur1.ca/g5ija ]Dec 06 13:13
schestowitz"The U.S. and Yemeni governments killed a young man who strongly opposed terrorism and tried to bring change through education — the very same things they purport to want themselves. I want to know why."Dec 06 13:14
iophkhttp://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/12/army-releases-2010-chat-log-between-manning-and-assange/Dec 06 13:28
TechrightsBot-trarstechnica.com | Army releases 2010 chat log between Manning and Assange | Ars Technica  [ http://ur1.ca/g5imn ]Dec 06 13:28
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/408948218073219072 Dec 06 13:28
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: Fact sheet: Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6.5  http://t.co/T5T69C6tlD #rhel #gnu #linux #redhatDec 06 13:28
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.techrepublic.com | Fact sheet: Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6.5 - TechRepublicDec 06 13:28
schestowitziophk: I just saaw thatDec 06 13:28
schestowitzin another siteDec 06 13:28
schestowitzKevin Poulson, WiredDec 06 13:28
schestowitzA lot of anti-Wikieaks sites promote itDec 06 13:29
iophkThey wouldn't have released it if it was positive.Dec 06 13:29
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/408949786885496832https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/408949786885496832  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/408950258635649024  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/408950736907956224Dec 06 13:29
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: WikiLeaks' Sarah Harrison: 'How can you take Pierre Omidyar seriously?'  http://t.co/NP2fR0mOLt #paypal #banking #wikileaks #embargoDec 06 13:29
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.theguardian.com | WikiLeaks' Sarah Harrison: 'How can you take Pierre Omidyar seriously?' | Technology | theguardian.comDec 06 13:29
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: #Wikileaks movie 'The Fifth Estate' named 2013's biggest box office flop by Forbes http://t.co/UhRVjYgjTB people don't watch the lieDec 06 13:29
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.nme.com | Wikileaks movie 'The Fifth Estate' named 2013's biggest box office flop by Forbes  | Film & TV News | NME.COMDec 06 13:29
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: Globally Renowned Activist Collaborated with #Stratfor  http://t.co/UOm3CovokN "Sellout Exposed"Dec 06 13:29
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.counterpunch.org | Globally Renowned Activist Collaborated with Stratfor » CounterPunch: Tells the Facts, Names the NamesDec 06 13:29
schestowitz!google fbi iceland mole wikileaksDec 06 13:29
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Report: Key WikiLeaks helper was FBI mole - USA Today | http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2013/06/27/wikileaks-iceland-volunteer-fbi-informant/2465035/Dec 06 13:29
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - WikiLeaks Volunteer Was a Paid Informant for the FBI | Threat Level ... | http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2013/06/wikileaks-mole/Dec 06 13:29
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Flunkie for WikiLeaks says he was teenage mole who spied for the FBI | http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/teenager-iceland-flunkie-wikileaks-spied-julian-assange-fbi-article-1.1386924Dec 06 13:29
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - The FBI's Teenage Mole Inside WikiLeaks - ABC News | http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/fbis-teenage-mole-inside-wikileaks/story%3Fid%3D19538453Dec 06 13:29
schestowitzHe had accessed to the logs, I guessDec 06 13:29
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schestowitzhttp://grasch.net/node/24Dec 06 14:00
TechrightsBot-trgrasch.net | Launching the Open Speech Initiative | Peter GraschDec 06 14:00
iophkhttps://www.fsf.org/news/fsf-responds-to-microsofts-privacy-and-encryption-announcementDec 06 14:25
TechrightsBot-trwww.fsf.org | FSF responds to Microsoft's privacy and encryption announcement — Free Software Foundation — working together for free software  [ http://ur1.ca/g5iwh ]Dec 06 14:25
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/408958697499807744  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/408966304406978560Dec 06 14:29
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: Patent Policy Change a Victory for Large Corporations, Real Reform Remains Elusive  http://t.co/kFfE3GGUmU #patent #swpatsDec 06 14:29
TechrightsBot-tr-> techrights.org | Patent Policy Change a Victory for Large Corporations, Real Reform Remains Elusive | TechrightsDec 06 14:29
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: To Oracle, ‘Community’ Means Paying #Oracle Customers http://t.co/cmCHFPTjQv #rhel #gnu #linux #redhat #btrfsDec 06 14:29
TechrightsBot-tr-> techrights.org | To Oracle, ‘Community’ Means Paying Oracle Customers | TechrightsDec 06 14:30
Sosumi4k is finally coming up on PCDec 06 14:44
Sosumisharp has launched a display this week or soDec 06 14:44
Sosumiand so did MSI launch one laptop with one tooDec 06 14:45
Sosumiwhat they need to make is a curved display spanning an area equal to two 24 inches displaysDec 06 14:46
Sosumithat sharp I happen to mention, PN-K321, is a 32 inches displayDec 06 14:47
iophkhttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/20/fast-food-truths_n_4296243.htmlDec 06 14:52
TechrightsBot-trwww.huffingtonpost.com | These Disturbing Fast Food Truths Will Make You Reconsider Your Lunch  [ http://ur1.ca/g5j0d ]Dec 06 14:52
iophka little oldDec 06 14:52
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/408972766369832960Dec 06 14:55
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: #Microsoft Sued Over Collusion With the NSA, Microsoft Issues Orwellian Statements http://t.co/toDDkkIWwj ... https://t.co/O6ERWlVMkKDec 06 14:55
TechrightsBot-tr-> techrights.org | Microsoft Sued Over Collusion With the NSA, Microsoft Issues Orwellian Statements | TechrightsDec 06 14:55
TechrightsBot-tr-> joindiaspora.com | #Microsoft Sued O...Dec 06 14:55
schestowitzhttp://joindiaspora.com/posts/3379276Dec 06 15:15
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Microsoft Sued Over Collusion With the NSA, Microsoft Issues Orwellian Statements http://techrights.org/2013/12/06/microsoft-collusion-with-the-nsa/ #nsa #deception #pr #collusion #prismDec 06 15:15
schestowitziophk: chhersDec 06 15:15
schestowitzcheersDec 06 15:16
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Daniel_IV_/status/408950656658341888Dec 06 15:53
TechrightsBot-tr@Daniel_IV_: @schestowitz though there'll be plenty in MSM portraying this as evidence of WL's own irrelevance/failure.Dec 06 15:53
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/408981920417337345  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/408982335712133120  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/408983802065977344  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/408986856215543808Dec 06 15:53
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: Links 6/12/2013: #NSA News  http://t.co/Nc4dAbrUfA an all-in-one roundup for people's convenience and recordDec 06 15:53
TechrightsBot-tr-> techrights.org | Links 6/12/2013: NSA News | TechrightsDec 06 15:53
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: Supporting troops https://t.co/Fb7FKPg9D2 love it!Dec 06 15:53
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: 'Free' market capitalism https://t.co/59XjqNS4Eu #deregulation #neoliberalismDec 06 15:53
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: Funded by #copyright #monopoly (Biden|Obama), passs laws for this monopoly, shows #hypocrisy http://t.co/ZuClBmEFsODec 06 15:53
TechrightsBot-tr-> torrentfreak.com | U.S. Government Caught Pirating Military Software, Settles For $50 Million | TorrentFreakDec 06 15:53
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/408991008635252737  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/408998341989892096    https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/409002187273273344     https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/409006728530108417Dec 06 17:11
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: Links 6/12/2013: KDE and GNOME News  http://t.co/Lvd8ofkZbX #techrights #gnome #kde #gnu #linuxDec 06 17:11
TechrightsBot-tr-> techrights.org | Links 6/12/2013: KDE and GNOME News | TechrightsDec 06 17:11
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: Assassinations by Drone Make the West Hypocritical on Syria  http://t.co/NfljY6UW0e #syria #drones #ciaDec 06 17:11
TechrightsBot-tr-> techrights.org | Assassinations by Drone Make the West Hypocritical on Syria | TechrightsDec 06 17:11
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: ‘Unauthorised’ Programming and What It Means to Software Freedom  http://t.co/tQvWowBiDH #drm #programmingDec 06 17:11
TechrightsBot-tr-> techrights.org | ‘Unauthorised’ Programming and What It Means to Software Freedom | TechrightsDec 06 17:11
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: Roman Catholic Church Joins Opposition to ‘Trade’ Agreements http://t.co/LdbqiIiHGI #tpp #actaDec 06 17:11
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/409011538461462528Dec 06 17:29
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: Drifting Away From Copyleft in Databases  http://t.co/aZO63eaDxo #database #gpl #mysql #postgresDec 06 17:29
TechrightsBot-tr-> techrights.org | Drifting Away From Copyleft in Databases | TechrightsDec 06 17:29
Sosumihttp://it.slashdot.org/story/13/12/06/1335216/fsf-responds-to-microsofts-privacy-and-encryption-announcementDec 06 17:58
TechrightsBot-trit.slashdot.org | FSF Responds To Microsoft's Privacy and Encryption Announcement - Slashdot  [ http://ur1.ca/g5jq3 ]Dec 06 17:58
iophkhttp://www.newscientist.com/article/mg22029451.500-the-night-hello-darkness-my-old-friend.htmlDec 06 18:15
TechrightsBot-trwww.newscientist.com | Sign in to read: The night: Hello darkness, my old friend - tech - 06 December 2013 - New Scientist  [ http://ur1.ca/g5jsu ]Dec 06 18:15
iophkhttp://linuxgizmos.com/openmoko-nokia-n900-revised-new-open-spec-phone/Dec 06 18:21
TechrightsBot-trlinuxgizmos.com | OpenMoko and Nokia N900 revised in new open-spec phone ·  LinuxGizmos.com  [ http://ur1.ca/g5jtb ]Dec 06 18:21
iophkhttp://www.computerweekly.com/blogs/public-sector/2013/12/christmas-comes-early-for-the.htmlDec 06 18:32
TechrightsBot-trwww.computerweekly.com | Christmas comes early for the Open Document Faithful (ODF) - Public Sector IT  [ http://ur1.ca/g5jul ]Dec 06 18:32
iophk"Cabinet Office minister Francis Maude said in a written press statement on Wednesday said open formats would make government communications more efficient."Dec 06 18:32
iophknot exactly a positive article, more bait titles (postive title on negative article or vice versa)Dec 06 18:34
MinceRhttp://9gag.com/gag/amXAgA2Dec 06 19:24
TechrightsBot-tr9gag.com | 9GAG - Current situation with violent riots in UkraineDec 06 19:24
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sebsebsebhiDec 06 20:07
sebsebsebiophk: schestowitz jono  MinceR  What do you think of the big news from yesterday?Dec 06 20:13
MinceRwhich one?Dec 06 20:13
jonosebsebseb, Mandela?Dec 06 20:13
sebsebsebyep thatDec 06 20:13
sebsebsebjono:   if I remember correctly there was a video of him on the Ubuntu  6.10 or something like that, in the additioal stuff?Dec 06 20:14
schestowitz__vvalveDec 06 20:14
schestowitz__LF and  ValveDec 06 20:14
sebsebsebValve joinng the Linux Foudnation I didn't even read the aticles about that, just seen the thingDec 06 20:15
sebsebseb,but no suprise threDec 06 20:15
schestowitz__!google cameron hang mandelaDec 06 20:15
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Twitter fact-check: David Cameron didn't want to "Hang Nelson ... | http://www.newstatesman.com/media-mole/2013/12/twitter-fact-check-david-cameron-didnt-want-hang-nelson-mandela-80sDec 06 20:15
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - history - Was David Cameron linked to "Hang Nelson Mandela ... | http://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/16745/was-david-cameron-linked-to-hang-nelson-mandela-posters-in-the-1980sDec 06 20:15
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - No, David Cameron Didn't Produce "Hang Mandela" Posters During ... | https://www.buzzfeed.com/jimwaterson/david-cameron-didnt-produce-hang-mandela-posters-during-theDec 06 20:15
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Was Cameron involved in the "Hang Mandela" posters in the 1980s ... | http://descrier.co.uk/politics/2013/12/cameron-involved-hang-mandela-posters-1980s/Dec 06 20:15
sebsebsebit's in their interet to  be part of the Linux Foundation,since they are going to be selling  Linux hardware etcDec 06 20:15
sebsebseb!google Roy schestowitzDec 06 20:17
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Schestowitz.com Software Solutions | http://schestowitz.com/Dec 06 20:17
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Dr. Roy Schestowitz (schestowitz) on Twitter | https://twitter.com/schestowitzDec 06 20:17
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Dr. Roy Schestowitz | LinkedIn | http://www.linkedin.com/pub/dr-roy-schestowitz/2/b41/720Dec 06 20:17
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Dr. Roy Schestowitz | Techrights | http://techrights.org/author/schestowitz/Dec 06 20:17
sebsebsebah yeah some Linkdin passwords and Twiter and Facebook got nicked toDec 06 20:17
sebsebsebjono: so what you think?  Dec 06 20:19
jonosebsebseb, I think it is sadDec 06 20:19
sebsebsebyeah it is really, but why do you think that?Dec 06 20:19
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sebsebsebjono: ?Dec 06 20:21
jonosebsebseb, because he was an inspirational leaderDec 06 20:22
sebsebsebyeah freedm fightere etc, to be honest i don't know that much about himDec 06 20:22
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cpt_peacockpidgin use pidgin ?Dec 07 00:55
cpt_peacockok everybody is quit so i go beyDec 07 00:57
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schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3378867Dec 07 07:39
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: People are voluntarily annotating Google Maps or Microsoft's equivalent. Remember that #KeyHole (Maps/StreetView) funded by the CIA.Dec 07 07:39
schestowitz__'All these things would be nice... but even nicer through an open data set such as Open Street Map instead..."Dec 07 07:39
schestowitz__"The more the merrier."Dec 07 07:39
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3378757Dec 07 07:40
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Obama Praises NSA, Promises Future ‘Self-Restraint’Dec 07 07:40
TechrightsBot-tr-> news.antiwar.com | Obama Praises NSA, Promises Future ‘Self-Restraint’  --   News from Antiwar.com  [ http://ur1.ca/g5moc ]Dec 07 07:40
schestowitz__"That's the most hilarious thing I've read all year... I think I'm going to go and cry now."Dec 07 07:40
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3378751Dec 07 07:40
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #NSA is the Ministry of Truth http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/closeread/2013/12/how-to-tell-when-the-nsa-is-lying.htmlDec 07 07:40
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.newyorker.com | How to Tell When the N.S.A. Is Lying : The New Yorker  [ http://ur1.ca/g5j0p ]Dec 07 07:40
schestowitz__""How to tell if the NSA is lying" Yes."Dec 07 07:40
schestowitz__Its month movesDec 07 07:40
schestowitz__mouthDec 07 07:40
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3375772Dec 07 07:41
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: #detroit #bankruptcy #ruling #paves #way for #nationwide #attack on #pensions. Dec 07 07:41
TechrightsBot-tr  Photo by rocapc@joindiaspora.com: https://joindiaspora.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/images/thumb_medium_07120d1527d877eee4da.jpgDec 07 07:41
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.wsws.org | Detroit bankruptcy ruling paves way for nationwide attack on pensions - World Socialist Web Site  [ http://ur1.ca/g5en3 ]Dec 07 07:41
schestowitz__'They'll just rename him (and it will be a him) CEO."Dec 07 07:41
schestowitz__http://lessig.tumblr.com/post/69082349387/so-how-exactly-does-one-train-for-thisDec 07 07:49
TechrightsBot-trlessig.tumblr.com | Lessig Blog, v2  [ http://ur1.ca/g5mph ]Dec 07 07:49
schestowitz__jono: PS4, eh? http://www.jonobacon.org/2013/12/05/target-target-com-and-solving-customer-problems/Dec 07 07:57
TechrightsBot-trwww.jonobacon.org | Target, Target.com, and Solving Customer Problems  |  jonobacon@home  [ http://ur1.ca/g5mqn ]Dec 07 07:57
schestowitz__http://openstack.blogspot.co.uk/2013/12/openstack-12062013-am.htmlDec 07 08:04
TechrightsBot-tropenstack.blogspot.co.uk | Open Stack: OpenStack 12/06/2013 (a.m.)  [ http://ur1.ca/g5mro ]Dec 07 08:04
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schestowitz__https://twitter.com/SEEVed/status/409259564509306880Dec 07 09:59
TechrightsBot-tr@SEEVed: @schestowitz aiding and abetting illegal distribution of malware under many laws world wide is a punishable criminal actDec 07 09:59
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/Messgorough/status/409259571811979264Dec 07 09:59
TechrightsBot-tr@Messgorough: @schestowitz @SEEVed Then we must wean the sheep off Windows and into #LinuxDec 07 09:59
iophkso distributing Windows would be a crime under those laws...Dec 07 10:00
schestowitz__or arrest "Windows pushers" :-)Dec 07 10:00
schestowitz__iophk: beat me to itDec 07 10:00
iophkhttp://svpow.com/2013/12/06/elsevier-is-taking-down-papers-from-academia-edu/#comment-38816Dec 07 10:11
TechrightsBot-tr ( status 404 @ http://svpow.com/2013/12/06/elsevier-is-taking-down-papers-from-academia-edu/#comment-38816 )Dec 07 10:11
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/SEEVed/status/409261420706926592Dec 07 10:14
TechrightsBot-tr@SEEVed: @schestowitz @Messgorough then #Microshaft would rev its FUD engines in responceDec 07 10:14
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/Messgorough/status/409261515033042944Dec 07 10:15
TechrightsBot-tr@Messgorough: @schestowitz @SEEVed Won't happen I'm afraid, Microsoft supports the system. Unless we dismantle it ourselves it won't happen.Dec 07 10:15
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/SEEVed/status/409262353016827905Dec 07 10:15
TechrightsBot-tr@SEEVed: @Messgorough @schestowitz ah yes NY city's anti-terror (FUD mongering) system powered by #MicroshaftDec 07 10:15
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/Messgorough/status/409262680504295424Dec 07 10:15
TechrightsBot-tr@Messgorough: @SEEVed @schestowitz You also have to remember most people are consumerist morons who cannot be unplugged. They will defend the system.Dec 07 10:15
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/SEEVed/status/409263171698827264Dec 07 10:16
TechrightsBot-tr@SEEVed: @Messgorough @schestowitz im armed with much info on the system to wake most out of their comaDec 07 10:16
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/SEEVed/status/409263681344520192Dec 07 10:16
TechrightsBot-tr@SEEVed: @Messgorough @schestowitz one of the first targets is MSMDec 07 10:16
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/Messgorough/status/409264941775216640Dec 07 10:20
TechrightsBot-tr@Messgorough: @SEEVed @schestowitz Respectfully I disagree, they must be educated with open eyes before the MSM's lies can be thwarted.Dec 07 10:20
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/SEEVed/status/409265235489341441Dec 07 10:21
TechrightsBot-tr@SEEVed: @Messgorough @schestowitz no take out MSM with Credibility attacksDec 07 10:21
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/Messgorough/status/409265244977266688Dec 07 10:21
TechrightsBot-tr@Messgorough: @SEEVed @schestowitz These people know nothing else but the system and they will defend it to the end.Dec 07 10:21
schestowitz__Fewer over time thoughDec 07 10:21
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/Messgorough/status/409265482731376640Dec 07 10:22
TechrightsBot-tr@Messgorough: @SEEVed @schestowitz How can you attack the credibility of something which controls it's own credibility?Dec 07 10:22
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/SEEVed/status/409265602822279169Dec 07 10:22
TechrightsBot-tr@SEEVed: @Messgorough @schestowitz one person at a timeDec 07 10:22
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/SEEVed/status/409265602822279169Dec 07 10:24
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/Messgorough/status/409266135113408512Dec 07 10:24
TechrightsBot-tr@Messgorough: @SEEVed @schestowitz opening one person at a time to true reality cannot change things fast enough.Dec 07 10:24
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/SEEVed/status/409266422305402880Dec 07 10:24
TechrightsBot-tr@SEEVed: @Messgorough @schestowitz one person changes then two people change two more people and so onDec 07 10:24
schestowitz__See how Egypt's uprise develpopedDec 07 10:25
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/SEEVed/status/409266823889055744Dec 07 10:25
TechrightsBot-tr@SEEVed: @Messgorough @schestowitz Learn some of #Microsoft's own tactics and use them for goodDec 07 10:25
schestowitz__You can't do evil to spread goodDec 07 10:25
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/SEEVed/status/409267711554760704Dec 07 10:30
TechrightsBot-tr@SEEVed: @schestowitz @Messgorough that started after the first QE the US $ dropped in value causing food to become out of reachDec 07 10:30
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/SEEVed/status/409268361210523648Dec 07 10:30
TechrightsBot-tr@SEEVed: @schestowitz @Messgorough some wouldn't be evil it they where backed by real facts (something M$ cant grasp)Dec 07 10:30
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/SEEVed/status/409268447000793088Dec 07 10:30
TechrightsBot-tr@SEEVed: @schestowitz @Messgorough IF*Dec 07 10:30
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3382066Dec 07 10:31
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Yesterday I had to remotely log into a Windows box. I found the OS VERY counter-intuitive and hard.Those who say it's user-friendly talk BS.Dec 07 10:31
schestowitz__"I have exactly the same experience trying to use Windows. Actually, last Wednesday I was browsing the shops looking at the recent computers with my son Leo, and he found the Windows and Mac computers severely lacking. (He couldn't find any working games.) When we came across a Chromebook, and I mentioned it was a Linux based OS, his face lit up. He checked it out and could immediately find some games he liked. It got his approval."Dec 07 10:31
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3381975Dec 07 10:33
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "Dear antivirus vendors: Are you aiding and abetting National Security Agency (NSA) spying?" http://www.informationweek.com/security/vulnerabilities-and-threats/do-antivirus-companies-whitelist-nsa-malware/d/d-id/1112911Dec 07 10:33
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.informationweek.com | Do Antivirus Companies Whitelist NSA Malware? - InformationWeek  [ http://ur1.ca/g5ni0 ]Dec 07 10:33
schestowitz__"F-Secure likely isn't."Dec 07 10:33
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3381894Dec 07 10:34
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: baby do's and don'ts...Dec 07 10:34
schestowitz__"LOoooooooooooool"Dec 07 10:34
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3381742Dec 07 10:36
TechrightsBot-tr@linux@joindiaspora.com: Open-spec Neo900 phone heads toward production http://linuxgizmos.com/open-spec-neo900-phone-heads-toward-production/Dec 07 10:36
TechrightsBot-tr-> linuxgizmos.com | Open-spec Neo900 phone heads toward production ·  LinuxGizmos.com  [ http://ur1.ca/g5nid ]Dec 07 10:36
schestowitz__"this is great news."Dec 07 10:36
*DaemonFC is listening to Hyperspace Bonus Level by Module on Shatter Official Videogame Soundtrack [Amarok]Dec 07 11:12
*DaemonFC is thinking about turning this into a ringtone.Dec 07 11:12
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/Messgorough/status/409271961538531328Dec 07 11:14
TechrightsBot-tr@Messgorough: @schestowitz @SEEVed sometimes it is better to do a little evil to bring about a greater good.Dec 07 11:14
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/SEEVed/status/409272419673591808Dec 07 11:14
TechrightsBot-tr@SEEVed: @Messgorough @schestowitz as long as it does not effect heath and well beingDec 07 11:14
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/SEEVed/status/409272892413587456Dec 07 11:14
TechrightsBot-tr@SEEVed: @Messgorough @schestowitz using FUD to lock users into something using FUD to set users free is that what you mean?Dec 07 11:14
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/SEEVed/status/409274592629256192Dec 07 11:14
TechrightsBot-tr@SEEVed: @Messgorough "Everything is linked" M$ board to max profits at any cost for investors. investors are blind to the wrongs @schestowitzDec 07 11:14
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3381894Dec 07 11:16
schestowitz__"I was reading this and all this water started spraying out of my eyes as I laughed."Dec 07 11:17
schestowitz__http://www.snopes.com/media/notnews/uglybaby.aspDec 07 11:23
TechrightsBot-trwww.snopes.com | snopes.com: Man Sues Wife Over Ugly Children  [ http://ur1.ca/g5npy ]Dec 07 11:23
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3381975Dec 07 11:33
schestowitz__:\Microsoft, Yahoo! and Google have also been vocal about the NSA's privacy infringements, while being more than happy to work with them. :P"Dec 07 11:33
schestowitz__Microsoft? It wasn't vocal. Yahoo and Google at least took it to court, Microsoft was complicit all along. The mafia needed gov. dealsDec 07 11:34
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3382066Dec 07 11:34
schestowitz__"For me, Windows 2000 Professional was the high water mark of Windows usability. Since then M$ seemed to have tried to "dumb down" all technical interaction to the point where any logical process (for someone who has an idea of how a computer works) seems to have disappeared.Dec 07 11:35
schestowitz__"But it's a <i>Chrome</i>book. As in Google. :| The past week of using Linux has had me comparing my experiences, and I can say that, although Linux has a steeper initial learning curve, it's much more user friendly. Windows has become increasingly user unfriendly. Windows 8 is by far the worst OS they've ever put out."Dec 07 11:35
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Sosumisteep learning curve? linux?Dec 07 12:47
Sosumionly if you go mess with proprietary drivers, otherwise it's quite straightforwardDec 07 12:47
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iophk http://mrpogson.com/2013/12/07/ms-running-scared/Dec 07 13:45
TechrightsBot-trmrpogson.com | M$’s Running Scared  |   Robert Pogson  [ http://ur1.ca/g5ob1 ]Dec 07 13:45
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prurigroSosumi: I think one issue is that everyone starts with some well themed GUI centric version they hear about that looks easy, and then everything breaks and they can't figure out how to fix it because they only know configuration as some pygtk window that stopped workingDec 07 14:26
prurigrothen, being less stable as well as giving the illision of being "easier" than say, slackware or debian, the person's like "holy shit, imagine if I'd gone for one of those"Dec 07 14:28
MinceRSosumi: not as steep as winblows, which is full of secretsDec 07 14:31
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prurigroMinceR: and the sacred truth is "all problems shalt be solved through cleansing by format"Dec 07 14:32
MinceRthat does work, unless you reinstall winblows :>Dec 07 14:32
prurigrololDec 07 14:32
prurigromy girlfriend had me do that for her computer last night-- it's been so full of adware (and likely the bloatware asus started it with) that it actually wouldn't run on hot days last summerDec 07 14:33
prurigroup here in canada lolDec 07 14:33
prurigronew windows through oem was like a breath of fresh air in comparison, but I couldn't help think, too, how I had the same laptop 3 models earlier than hers, and my linux install felt about the sameDec 07 14:34
prurigroearly iteration intel graphcs card vs nvidia tooDec 07 14:35
__martin__f*ck, if czech brothers block construction of new amazon warehouses [biggest in central europe] in their country; one investment subsidiary of our largest bank is ready to offer them alternative estates to build onDec 07 14:52
__martin__meanwhile prime minister's party preps e-gov & citizen service clouds while optionally giving e-id cards with a chipDec 07 14:53
__martin__so glad we have sites like http://root.cz; http://linuxexpres.cz; http://abclinuxu.cz; http://linuxos.sk for commonfolkDec 07 14:58
TechrightsBot-trwww.root.cz | Root.cz - informace nejen ze světa LinuxuDec 07 14:58
TechrightsBot-trwww.linuxexpres.cz | Linux E X P R E SDec 07 14:58
TechrightsBot-trwww.abclinuxu.cz | AbcLinuxu.cz - Linux na stříbrném podnoseDec 07 14:58
TechrightsBot-trlinuxos.sk | LinuxOS.sk - slovenský linuxový portálDec 07 14:58
__martin__otherwise it would be patheticDec 07 14:58
__martin__or even http://gpl.sk/ - pure slovak license translationDec 07 14:59
TechrightsBot-trwww.gpl.sk | GNU General Public LicenseDec 07 14:59
__martin__the least I can do is register openly as a memeber of http://piratskastrana.sk/ officially and speak out on uni campusDec 07 15:01
TechrightsBot-trwww.piratskastrana.sk | Pirátska kampaň - Nový vietor ! | Slovenská Pirátska StranaDec 07 15:01
__martin__old professors slowly start to push patents & ip agenda even on lectures!Dec 07 15:01
__martin__no matter whether we talk about timber harvester designs or modified plantsDec 07 15:02
__martin__schestowitz: so glad you helped me form a decent opinion on ibm, at&t and alike.. they have own offices quite nearby and I would rather emigrate than work for 'em Dec 07 15:04
__martin__rysiek|pl: wonder what google employed devs in krakow do for software freedomDec 07 15:06
__martin__*end of rant*Dec 07 15:06
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Sosumiwinblows has no secretsDec 07 16:45
Sosumionly undocumented "features"Dec 07 16:45
Sosumibut yeah I agree, when things sometimes blow up on gnu/linux, it may get a tad hard for ppl to fixDec 07 16:46
Sosumihttp://arstechnica.com/science/2013/12/microsoft-designs-smart-bra-to-combat-emotional-eating/Dec 07 16:47
TechrightsBot-trarstechnica.com | Microsoft designs smart bra to combat emotional eating | Ars Technica  [ http://ur1.ca/g5p08 ]Dec 07 16:47
Sosumiso do you think if you apply some heat to women's breasts will cause them to expand?Dec 07 16:48
Sosumilawl thermodynamicDec 07 16:48
Sosumibecause that seems to what M$ is aiming at with their "smartbra"Dec 07 16:49
Sosumihttp://www.reuters.com/article/2013/12/06/us-apple-samsung-fees-idUSBRE9B50QC20131206Dec 07 16:58
TechrightsBot-trwww.reuters.com | Apple spent over $60 million on U.S. lawyers against Samsung | Reuters  [ http://ur1.ca/g5p1e ]Dec 07 16:58
Sosumi"can't innovate? my ass" Phil SchillerDec 07 17:00
Sosumihttp://latewire.com/images/fekken_random/NewMP-hello.pngDec 07 17:01
Sosumihttp://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-12-06/dark-side-psychology-behind-holiday-madnessDec 07 17:01
TechrightsBot-trwww.zerohedge.com | The Dark-Side Psychology Behind Holiday Madness | Zero Hedge  [ http://ur1.ca/g5p1n ]Dec 07 17:01
Sosumihttp://globalresearchreport.com/2013/12/06/theyre-going-to-dump-the-fukushima-radiation-into-the-ocean/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+globalresearchreport+%28Global+Research+Report%29#sthash.0O8qN0uE.sAXEW9ki.dpbsDec 07 17:03
TechrightsBot-trglobalresearchreport.com | They’re Going to Dump the Fukushima Radiation Into the Ocean | GlobalResearchReport.com  [ http://ur1.ca/g5p1s ]Dec 07 17:03
Sosumithey HAVE BEEN dumping itDec 07 17:03
Sosumiunder the cover of the storms that have been hitting the regionDec 07 17:04
Sosumiso, if you're one of the lucky ones to have a japanese manufactured thing, chances that you'll gain superpowers or get free chemotherapy (since according to some folks on TV, that seems to prevent cancer))Dec 07 17:06
Sosumiare highDec 07 17:06
Sosumiwest coasters in the US are also lucky since they'll be getting it too in the form of seafood and have a chance to bath in hot pockets of radiationDec 07 17:08
Sosumisince there's no dilution Dec 07 17:08
MinceRSosumi: and when things blow up on winblows, it may well be unfixable even for the microserfsDec 07 17:20
MinceRfor example, i doubt even they know why their shitty window manager loses focus randomlyDec 07 17:20
MinceReven where's only one window on the whole systemDec 07 17:20
MinceRgeekingsDec 07 17:36
Sosumiformat C: is the answer to all thatDec 07 17:41
MinceRi prefer fdisk, cfdisk or gpartedDec 07 17:45
Sosumibut the answer to all winblows problems is to reinstall everything againDec 07 17:48
Sosumiuntil it breaksDec 07 17:48
Sosumiand the user has to again reinstall everything againDec 07 17:48
Sosumithat's what I meant by "format c:"Dec 07 17:48
Sosumiback in the days of winblows 98, when you actually had to type that and use a floppy diskDec 07 17:49
Sosumior at least that's how I did itDec 07 17:49
Sosumisince I didn't know any better and was too youngDec 07 17:49
Sosumiand I was just a 5th grade studentDec 07 17:51
Sosumicouldn't do that much with limited knowledge of englishDec 07 17:51
Sosumino internetDec 07 17:51
Sosumiand no one to actually helpDec 07 17:52
MinceRi knowDec 07 17:54
jonoschestowitz yep, PS4Dec 07 18:26
schestowitz__cool, it has some BSD in itDec 07 18:26
iophk A derivative of FreeBSDDec 07 18:29
iophktoo bad it's x86Dec 07 18:30
iophkcell was coolDec 07 18:30
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Sosumihttp://www.gsmarena.com/lg_g2_to_get_the_android_kitkat_update_in_q1_2014-news-7293.phpDec 01 00:08
TechrightsBot-trwww.gsmarena.com | LG G2 to get the Android KitKat update in Q1, 2014 - GSMArena.com news  [ http://ur1.ca/g4gx2 ]Dec 01 00:08
Sosumithey're all getting it on around januaryDec 01 00:08
MinceRthat's what she said.Dec 01 00:12
SosumiI don't think it really matters since the note 3 is a bit cheaperDec 01 00:14
Sosumiat least hereDec 01 00:14
Sosumiwhat I was looking forward was to get a nexus 5Dec 01 00:15
Sosumibut no 32GB version here in portugalDec 01 00:15
Sosumiso, I may end up getting a note 3Dec 01 00:15
Sosumisoon^tmDec 01 00:15
Sosumiwhich means, maybe tomorrow, next month, next year or on the next millenniumDec 01 00:16
SosumiI think I'll be moving to a new apartment near university sometime early next yearDec 01 00:17
Sosumiso that makes the need for a cell phone totally unnecessaryDec 01 00:17
SosumiI mean, a tracking device that makes phone calls and leaks dataDec 01 00:18
MinceRwatch out for the region lock, thenDec 01 00:22
Sosumiwhich region?Dec 01 00:22
MinceRhttps://startpage.com/do/metasearch.pl?q=samsung%20region%20lockDec 01 00:23
TechrightsBot-trstartpage.com | samsung region lock - Startpage Web Search  [ http://ur1.ca/g4gz9 ]Dec 01 00:23
MinceRi didn't look into detailsDec 01 00:23
SosumilolDec 01 00:23
Sosumiregion lock in a broad sense is drmDec 01 00:23
MinceRi hope samsung realizes how stupid this isDec 01 00:24
Sosumitotally laughableDec 01 00:25
Sosuminow I'll get one when pigs flyDec 01 00:26
Sosumihttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2515911/Black-Friday-shoppers-arrested-Virginia-man-35-sliced-bone.htmlDec 01 00:36
TechrightsBot-trwww.dailymail.co.uk | Black Friday shoppers arrested in Virginia after man, 35, is 'sliced to the bone'  | Mail Online  [ http://ur1.ca/g4h2r ]Dec 01 00:36
Sosuminow imagine if in a certain "event"Dec 01 00:36
Sosumifood was scarce and the shelves on the supermarkets were emptyDec 01 00:37
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DaemonFCSosumi: I would have gotten the Nexus 5 if they had a 32 GB version on sale with contract.Dec 01 01:47
DaemonFCBut you can't even get those with a contract, even at full price.Dec 01 01:47
DaemonFCSo I got the LG G2.Dec 01 01:47
DaemonFC"I have too much storage!"Dec 01 01:47
DaemonFCsaid nobody, ever.Dec 01 01:47
DaemonFCB-)Dec 01 01:47
Sosumithey don't have neither the G2 nor the nexus 5 with 32GBDec 01 01:48
Sosuminot even the galaxy S4 comes in a 32GB versionDec 01 01:48
Sosumiit's just plain sad the phone offerings in poortugalDec 01 01:48
Sosumiwell unless it's nokia and crapple,Dec 01 01:49
Sosumithose have all their catalog availableDec 01 01:49
DaemonFCSprint normally charges $200 for the G2 with contract.Dec 01 01:50
DaemonFCIt's a $650 phone off contract.Dec 01 01:50
DaemonFCI got mine for $50 with contract on the Black Friday sale.Dec 01 01:51
DaemonFCI chose to get a new phone number. The new number is fairly easy to remember.Dec 01 01:51
DaemonFCEvery couple of years, I shop around for a better deal. Sometimes that means changing carriers. I decided to change my number this time because I get to decide who gets the new number.Dec 01 01:53
Sosumi:)Dec 01 01:53
DaemonFCThere were a few medical bill collectors and nutcases that have my current number, and I took the opportunity to fix that.Dec 01 01:53
Sosumihttp://rt.com/usa/texas-boy-taser-coma-502/Dec 01 01:54
TechrightsBot-trrt.com | NO TITLE  [ http://ur1.ca/g4he6 ]Dec 01 01:54
DaemonFCAT&T went from bad to worse.Dec 01 01:54
DaemonFCThey charge...get this....Dec 01 01:54
DaemonFC$110 a month for unlimited talk and text and 1 GB of data.Dec 01 01:54
Sosumiyou can always request the operator to change your numberDec 01 01:54
SosumilawlDec 01 01:54
DaemonFCEach GB you want on your plan is an additional $10 a month.Dec 01 01:54
DaemonFCIf you go over, it's $15 per GBDec 01 01:54
Sosumi99€ here for unlimited everythingDec 01 01:55
DaemonFCIt's one of those things where they want to prod people into buying too much so they don't get whacked with the overage rate.Dec 01 01:55
DaemonFCThen they get to keep the money, and maybe the person doesn't even use the last 1-2 GB on their plan in any given month.Dec 01 01:55
DaemonFCSprint's deal is $50 a month for unlimited talk and text, plus $30 a month flat rate if you want data. There's no limit on the data, and no throttling.Dec 01 01:56
DaemonFCIf you go off their network, you can use up to 100 MB a month.Dec 01 01:56
DaemonFCT-Mobile's off-network data limit on their unlimited data plan was 50 MB a month.Dec 01 01:57
DaemonFCIf you use more than that, the contract states that they can disconnect your account.Dec 01 01:57
DaemonFCWell, Sprint seems to have a bigger network, and their off-network limit is double what T-Mobile's is.Dec 01 01:57
DaemonFCI asked them how I'd know if I tried using data while I was off network. They said it would say "ROAMING" on the display.Dec 01 01:58
DaemonFCYou still get unlimited talk and text if you're off their network.Dec 01 01:58
Sosumithat's not badDec 01 01:59
DaemonFCI wanted the 32 GB of local storage because I suspected that I will install a lot of apps.Dec 01 02:02
DaemonFCPlus, I don't really want to have to offload pictures and videos to "the cloud".Dec 01 02:02
SosumiI'm just in for the 32GB version only because I want the phone to also double as a music playerDec 01 02:03
Sosumiand since I have all my music in flac and I actually have decent headphonesDec 01 02:03
Sosumiit seems worthwhile Dec 01 02:04
Sosumiand so I can finally put my mini disc player and iPod to restDec 01 02:04
Sosumithe samsungs at least seem to have good DACs, LG not so muchDec 01 02:05
MinceR"There are 10 types of people in the world: those who understand binary, those who don't, and those who didn't expect this joke in base 3."Dec 01 02:18
qu1j0t3MIND == BLOWNDec 01 02:25
qu1j0t3 DaemonFC | There were a few medical bill collectors     || what are these? I live in CanadaDec 01 02:26
DaemonFCOh, it's something that happens whenever you get sick and live in America and aren't rich.Dec 01 02:26
qu1j0t3i only meet one of those conditions, touch woodDec 01 02:30
DaemonFCIt's another mechanism that the rich use to confiscate real property from the poor.Dec 01 02:31
DaemonFCThey know that everyone eventually gets sick, so they mark up the cost of medical expenses 1,000% and then garnish your wages, levy your accounts, and put liens on your house and cars.Dec 01 02:31
qu1j0t3DaemonFC: cogentDec 01 02:32
qu1j0t3DaemonFC: you sound more marxist than last i lurked in here. excellentDec 01 02:33
qu1j0t3DaemonFC: viva la revolucíon, viva Zapata!Dec 01 02:33
cubezzzMexico was once a lot bigger :)Dec 01 02:34
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/3353597Dec 01 02:36
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: 2 - it informs apps of locations. Google changes my preferences. 3 - it allows the device to be remotely locked, erased, by default!Dec 01 02:36
schestowitz"are you using the original android version that came with it?"Dec 01 02:36
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/3353596Dec 01 02:36
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: 1 - it assigned me "advertising id" with this spying by default (this is unprecedented, spun as 'feature'). Am I the product now?Dec 01 02:36
schestowitzit's a  Nexus device.Dec 01 02:37
Sosumiandroid open source is your solution thenDec 01 02:37
schestowitz"Dec 01 02:38
schestowitzI think the advertising ID has been around a while. It's on my default configuration Galaxy Nexus, which is two years old or so. Maybe there was an update it did not tell me about.Dec 01 02:38
schestowitzIn theory, and advertising ID could actually help privacy. If that's all Google gives advertisers, it would be more difficult to trace than something stupid like an IP address or hashed name. I'm sure there are practical holes, where advertisers can signal and the ISP can match the ad ID to your IP address and have you.Dec 01 02:38
schestowitzI'd prefer anonymous advertising. Private tracking networks are terrible invasions of privacy and are a key component in modern cointel programs.Dec 01 02:38
schestowitz"Dec 01 02:38
schestowitzCompanies like FB sell people's IPs and real IDs, browser history etc. so watching ID to real ID oughtn't be too hard. The people are the product.Dec 01 02:39
DaemonFCAny government agent that follows me on Facebook is going to have a really boring day at work.Dec 01 02:39
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/3353595Dec 01 02:40
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Google's #nexus has malicious features. Samsung S2 similar. It silently did three malicious things I can only see in Settings now.Dec 01 02:40
DaemonFCThey couldn't blackmail me. I admit that I'm openly gay. I watch porn.Dec 01 02:40
schestowitz"Don't really need a Google account or sign into one. There is the F-Droid open source software app that lets you install from that repository instead of Google's. Not as much software but some nice one's, installing an standalone apk is always an option too. https://f-droid.org/"Dec 01 02:40
TechrightsBot-trf-droid.org | F-Droid ·Dec 01 02:40
DaemonFCThere, now there's nothing.Dec 01 02:40
schestowitz!google coop chief hat pornDec 01 02:40
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Tories label Ed pathetic as he fumes at Co-op 'smears': Labour ... | http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2512950/Tories-label-Ed-pathetic-fumes-Co-op-smears-Labour-leader-bid-shift-blame-drug-banker.htmlDec 01 02:40
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Co-op declares war on lads' mags: Supermarket insist on 'modesty ... | http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2380574/Co-op-declares-war-lads-mags-Supermarket-insist-modesty-covers.htmlDec 01 02:40
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TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Drug shame banker's porn secret - Telegraph and Argus | http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/national/news/10819510.Drug_shame_banker_s_porn_secret/Dec 01 02:40
schestowitzshamed using itDec 01 02:40
schestowitzAnd they say "gay": as if they makes it so much more evilDec 01 02:40
DaemonFCI'm not important enough for them to blackmail anyway.Dec 01 02:40
schestowitz!google coop chief gay  pornDec 01 02:41
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TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Co-op chief Paul Flowers quit charity over '£150,000 false expenses ... | http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2510897/Co-op-chief-Paul-Flowers-quit-charity-150-000-false-expenses-claims.htmlDec 01 02:41
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Paul Flowers' escort Ciaron Dodd reveals drug-fuelled sex in rooms ... | http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2510241/Paul-Flowers-escort-Ciaron-Dodd-reveals-drug-fuelled-sex-rooms-paid-Co-op.htmlDec 01 02:41
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Labour's 'cover-up' over Co-op bank chief - Telegraph | http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/labour/10463912/Labours-cover-up-over-Co-op-bank-chief.htmlDec 01 02:41
schestowitzI see Daily mail crap printedDec 01 02:41
schestowitzon the paper near the saunaDec 01 02:41
schestowitzand I though,  is that porn being gat making it wiorse, as relevant to the article?Dec 01 02:41
DaemonFCMy stepdad's son was over for Thanksgiving. I didn't say anything because I didn't want to piss Dave off, but that kid of his is a real cretin. Dec 01 02:41
DaemonFC"Fuck" this, and "bitch" that, and "that's so gay!".Dec 01 02:42
qu1j0t3cubezzz: that'll probably happen again :DDec 01 02:42
DaemonFCI felt like slapping him, but I restrained myself.Dec 01 02:42
schestowitzI'd be more worried if he downloaded violent hollhywood films on his work computerDec 01 02:42
qu1j0t3DaemonFC: did he get off your lawn?Dec 01 02:42
schestowitzThat would be more harmfulDec 01 02:42
qu1j0t3schestowitz: +1Dec 01 02:42
qu1j0t3schestowitz: wonder where he got the violent language from?Dec 01 02:42
schestowitzit seems like they needed a lamb to sacrificeDec 01 02:43
schestowitzso he was smeared in the papers over gay pr0nDec 01 02:43
schestowitzand "gay",as it that's relevantDec 01 02:43
schestowitz!google nsa porn surfingDec 01 02:43
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Top-Secret Document Reveals NSA Spied On Porn Habits As Part ... | http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/26/nsa-porn-muslims_n_4346128.htmlDec 01 02:43
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - NSA spied on 'radicalisers' porn surfing so as to discredit them ... | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/11/27/nsa_smut_surfing_snooping_against_radicals/Dec 01 02:43
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - The NSA Is Tracking Your Porn Browsing | Zero Hedge | http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-11-27/nsa-tracking-your-porn-browsingDec 01 02:43
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - The N.S.A. Dips Into Pornography - NYTimes.com | http://takingnote.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/11/27/the-modern-honey-trap/Dec 01 02:43
schestowitzTurf WafrsDec 01 02:44
schestowitzAs long as they don't reveal where the info comes fromDec 01 02:44
schestowitzYou can destory potetntial politicians this wayDec 01 02:44
schestowitzShaming US-sceptics ones for exampleDec 01 02:45
schestowitzLewinski-like scandalsDec 01 02:45
schestowitzor CIA head's affairDec 01 02:45
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/3348949Dec 01 02:46
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Jolla/Sailfish is Not Selfish; It's Quite Freedom-Respecting http://techrights.org/2013/11/28/freedom-respecting-sailfish-os/ #jolla #sailfishos #linux #nokiaDec 01 02:46
schestowitz"UI is not libre though."Dec 01 02:46
TechrightsBot-tr-> techrights.org | Jolla/Sailfish is Not Selfish; It’s Quite Freedom-Respecting | Techrights  [ http://ur1.ca/g4hk2 ]Dec 01 02:46
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Sosumihttp://t.co/b9SgJLm8KwDec 01 02:51
TechrightsBot-trwww.youtube.com | Richard Stallman on good things and bad things about Bitcoin - YouTubeDec 01 02:51
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msb_RMS didn't comment on what I think is the fundamental problem with bitcoin:  It has no intrinsic value.  Why should anyone accept it as money?  I'm creating a new form of money -- BilkBoogers -- worth $10,000 each!  Get in on the ground floor.  There's only a limited supply.Dec 01 04:27
MinceRthe same is true of almost any currencyDec 01 04:28
MinceRand gold is in limited supplyDec 01 04:29
msb_Actually the supply slowly increases over time, to keep up with the new goods and services being created.Dec 01 04:29
msb_Gold does have intrinsic value, for jewelry and non-corroding electrical contacts.Dec 01 04:30
msb_Also, there's plenty more in the planet to be mined.Dec 01 04:30
MinceRyes, but afaik there's not enough gold to reflect all the value in the current economyDec 01 04:30
msb_I think Russia has a lot, and there's also silver, platinum, etc.Dec 01 04:32
qu1j0t3  msb_ | Gold does have intrinsic value, for jewelry    || this is only conventionDec 01 04:33
msb_There's a lot needed for electronics.Dec 01 04:34
qu1j0t3it's not as desperately scarce as some other necessary metals, though :)Dec 01 04:34
qu1j0t3(for electronics)Dec 01 04:34
msb_Bitcoins are as intrinsically worthless as U.S. dollars, and aren't even backed up by the full faith and cruise missiles of the U.S. govt (see Libya).Dec 01 04:37
qu1j0t3praise the loahrd!Dec 01 04:38
msb_And pass the Hellfire missiles.Dec 01 04:39
MinceR"it is time from some righteous carnage in the name of the lord jesus christ!"Dec 01 04:40
msb_Kill a commie for Christ!Dec 01 04:41
MinceRgnDec 01 04:47
msb_see yaDec 01 04:48
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DaemonFC[23:37] <msb_> Bitcoins are as intrinsically worthless as U.S. dollars, and aren't even backed up by the full faith and cruise missiles of the U.S. govt (see Libya).Dec 01 05:30
DaemonFCWell, you can have a bubble in anything that people accept as a currency or an asset.Dec 01 05:31
DaemonFCWhat is a pound of coffee or an ounce of gold worth? That varies every day too.Dec 01 05:31
msb_Wanna buy a BilkBooger(TM)?Dec 01 05:32
msb_The worth of coffee and gold does vary, but it's tied to real-world utility.  Bitcoin has no utility.Dec 01 05:33
msb_A person would accept bitcoin only if they were sure they could sell it for something useful, before its value crashed.Dec 01 05:37
msb_It's a scam, and has been from the beginning.Dec 01 05:38
msb_Like televangelists, who take money from suckers and promise to pray for them.Dec 01 05:40
msb_The electrical energy used to compute the bitcoin, if stored in a battery or supercapacitor instead, would be worth something.Dec 01 05:42
msb_I had a dream that I was working for a scientist, who was very happy to have gotten, free, an RCA supercomputer from the 1970s.  I tried to explain to him that he could buy a much more capable machine for $600 today.Dec 01 05:44
msb_And not need a large air-conditioned room.  Not relevant to bitcoin.Dec 01 05:45
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/3353597Dec 01 08:17
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: 2 - it informs apps of locations. Google changes my preferences. 3 - it allows the device to be remotely locked, erased, by default!Dec 01 08:17
schestowitzeven though it's a Nexus, you can use cyanogenmod or another one that's not 100% controlled by google..."77"Dec 01 08:17
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/3355333Dec 01 08:18
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Microsoft Should Be Scared to Death of Google's ChromebooksDec 01 08:18
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.fool.com | Microsoft Should Be Scared to Death of Google's Chromebooks (GOOG, HPQ, MSFT)  [ http://ur1.ca/g4f8q ]Dec 01 08:18
schestowitzI remember reading that it would protect against viruses which attack at the bootloader level, but those are so few and far between that it wouldn't matter to anyone."77"Dec 01 08:18
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iophkhttp://torrentfreak.com/what-piracy-removing-drm-boosts-music-sales-by-10-percent-131130/Dec 01 11:05
TechrightsBot-trtorrentfreak.com | What Piracy? Removing DRM Boosts Music Sales by 10 Percent | TorrentFreak  [ http://ur1.ca/g4j87 ]Dec 01 11:05
iophk10% - 30% increase of revenue without DRMDec 01 11:06
iophkno date on this article but it seems recent:Dec 01 11:15
iophkhttp://www.pcworld.com/article/2067987/berners-lee-blasts-surveillance-as-a-threat-to-democracy.htmlDec 01 11:15
TechrightsBot-trwww.pcworld.com | Berners-Lee blasts surveillance as a threat to democracy | PCWorld  [ http://ur1.ca/g4j9g ]Dec 01 11:15
iophkHe's ok with DRM though...Dec 01 11:15
iophkhttp://www.itwire.com/your-it-news/mobility/62452-apple-free-to-spy-on-its-users-%E2%80%93-as-are-allDec 01 11:18
TechrightsBot-trwww.itwire.com | Apple free to spy on its users – as are all!  [ http://ur1.ca/g4j9z ]Dec 01 11:18
iophkhttp://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/10486452/Child-taken-from-womb-by-social-services.htmlDec 01 12:00
TechrightsBot-trwww.telegraph.co.uk | Child taken from womb by social services - Telegraph  [ http://ur1.ca/g4jev ]Dec 01 12:00
Sosumion OS X, even if you disable the "submit reports" option to apple on the security tab of system preferencesDec 01 12:25
Sosumilittle snitch still caught the process "submit diag info" trying to call appleDec 01 12:26
Sosumiand I tested it to the point of confirming that it doesn't matter if you choose to send, or not, the diagnostics info to crappleDec 01 12:27
Sosumias for the iPhone, I was able to confirm today that it also features an advertising IDDec 01 12:28
Sosumiat least on iPhone os 7Dec 01 12:28
Sosumican't say for the othersDec 01 12:29
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/335359Dec 01 13:30
TechrightsBot-trNot a Diaspora post?Dec 01 13:30
schestowitz"It's true, CM seems to be going in a bad direction. But right now they still have the best device support. Then there's OmniROM, which is several old CM devs that jumped ship. Replicant is the best one with regard to software freedom, but device support is very limited unfortunately."Dec 01 13:30
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/3353595Dec 01 13:30
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Google's #nexus has malicious features. Samsung S2 similar. It silently did three malicious things I can only see in Settings now.Dec 01 13:30
schestowitz[11:15] <iophk> He's ok with DRM though...Dec 01 13:41
schestowitzyeah, I chastised him for it thrice in Twitter, other sites, and even techrightsDec 01 13:41
schestowitzhe should be criticised widely for DRM until he reevaluates the moveDec 01 13:42
schestowitzSosumi: thanks for checkingDec 01 13:45
SosumiI'll look more into that after the finalsDec 01 14:24
Sosumito see what kind of data OSX leaksDec 01 14:25
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schestowitzOLD: http://opensource.com/health/13/3/interview-luis-falcon-gnu-healthDec 01 15:36
TechrightsBot-tropensource.com | GNU Health is free, open source software | opensource.com  [ http://ur1.ca/d1ohu ]Dec 01 15:36
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schestowitzhttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/07/16/libre_office_hardware_acceleration/Dec 01 15:39
TechrightsBot-trwww.theregister.co.uk | How do you solve a problem like LibreOffice: From Excel to slab fever • The Register  [ http://ur1.ca/g4k7t ]Dec 01 15:39
schestowitzFrom MS gavinDec 01 15:39
iophkThe Reg went over to M$ a while back.  Too bad.Dec 01 15:44
cubezzzbetter than CBC, they barely acknowledge Linux existsDec 01 15:49
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/3358771Dec 01 15:49
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: RT @JesselynRadack  Heard 3X: "#Snowden is prob feeling really  depressed. Do you think he's suicidal? [1/2]Dec 01 15:49
schestowitz"Don't let them see that he is depressed they will never let him back into the USA ........ ( or maybe he should go get a doctors certificate ) Canadian woman refused U.S. entry because of depression - Toronto - CBC News • http://tinyurl.com/q7vxw6e "Dec 01 15:50
TechrightsBot-trtinyurl.com | NO TITLEDec 01 15:50
schestowitzcubezzz: CBC ^^Dec 01 15:50
cubezzzyes, I saw thatDec 01 15:50
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/3358790Dec 01 15:50
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The reason why Kdenlive can’t die…it’s Open Source http://www.muktware.com/2013/11/reason-kdenlive-cant-die-open-source/16964 good points. #kdeDec 01 15:50
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.muktware.com | The reason why Kdenlive can't die...it's Open Source | MuktwareMuktware  [ http://ur1.ca/g4k9h ]Dec 01 15:50
schestowitz"Don't still knows this people about the difference between Open Source and Free Software??"Dec 01 15:50
schestowitzThe author should know better. RMS explained to him already.Dec 01 15:50
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/3358838Dec 01 15:51
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "An open-source software forum has been held in Ecuadorian capital Quito, with a focus on how governments..." http://www.bnamericas.com/news/technology/roundup-ecuador-open-source-software-brazil-antitrust-venezuela-tdt-applicationsDec 01 15:51
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.bnamericas.com | Roundup: Ecuador open-source software, Brazil antitrust, Venezuela TDT applications - BNamericas  [ http://ur1.ca/g4k9t ]Dec 01 15:51
schestowitz"@Dr. Roy Schestowitz , don't make me register myself in anywhere, please!"Dec 01 15:51
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/3358865Dec 01 15:52
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: ### Contactless Bank Cards? Madness!Dec 01 15:52
schestowitz"¡Por no hablar de lo que las comisiones que nos cobran, sabiéndolo, por usar un dinero de plástico que es a ellos, los bancos, a quien más beneficia! Parece que fueran detrás de nosotros a pie, recogiendo los tickets, por los precios que nos aplican!"Dec 01 15:52
TechrightsBot-tr-> en.m.wikipedia.org | Contactless smart card - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia  [ http://ur1.ca/g4ka1 ]Dec 01 15:52
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/3359000Dec 01 15:58
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Ignoring #surveillance by #microsoft #apple etc. - the new trend http://arstechnica.com/business/2013/07/disgruntled-google-users-try-to-live-a-low-google-lifestyle/Dec 01 15:58
TechrightsBot-tr-> arstechnica.com | Disgruntled Google users try to live a low-Google lifestyle | Ars Technica  [ http://ur1.ca/g4kb6 ]Dec 01 15:58
schestowitz"How living without google is even hard? come on ... I don't use Google at all since 2004. Yes, it's 10 years. We have plenty of search engines, some of them might use google anonymously, like a startpage.com which acts as a proxy search engine, respecting your privacy. Also why would I want to place my data in the hands of google and its clouds? no, thanks. That's my data and I am deciding where I want to put it. I also don't use any Dec 01 15:58
schestowitzapps provided by google. For me it's not a trend, it's the way I interact with the internet."Dec 01 15:58
cubezzzCBC would never do an article like this: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/11/01/25_alternative_pc_operating_systems/Dec 01 16:13
TechrightsBot-trwww.theregister.co.uk | Fed up with Windows? Linux too easy? Get weird, go ALTERNATIVE • The Register  [ http://ur1.ca/fzm5s ]Dec 01 16:13
cubezzzso the register isn't _that_ badDec 01 16:13
iophkSome of those example OS are out of date.  Haiku should have been mentioned instead of BeOS, as one case.Dec 01 16:16
iophkThe did get experimental stuff like ReactOS Dec 01 16:16
iophkthat's good. Dec 01 16:16
iophkToo bad it won't be ready by the EOL of XPDec 01 16:16
cubezzzthey mention HaikuDec 01 16:17
iophkI missed it, I'll look againDec 01 16:17
iophkreading is not so good apparently. :(Dec 01 16:18
cubezzzeven OpenGenera is mentionedDec 01 16:18
cubezzzI'll add 9vx to the mix, which adds Plan 9 user programs to Linux and BSDDec 01 16:22
cubezzzreally the sharing of source code on a large scale can be traced back to 1975-76 eraDec 01 16:26
cubezzzUnix v6 magtapes from Bell Labs showed up at Toronto, Purdue, Berkeley, Yale, Cornell, Lawrence Livermore Labs and tons of other placesDec 01 16:28
cubezzzv6 license started at $150, then $400 later on for v7Dec 01 16:40
cubezzza commercial license for Unix System V $43,000Dec 01 16:41
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cubezzzcheck out what things were like in the 'bad old days':Dec 01 16:51
cubezzzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/pricelist84.pdfDec 01 16:51
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sebsebsebhiDec 01 18:09
iophkhiDec 01 18:10
sebsebsebiophk: apparnatly I am getting oldDec 01 18:10
msb_Da Reg has a very favorable report on OpenSuse.  The comments are worth reading, too. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/11/27/review_opensuse_13_1/Dec 01 18:55
TechrightsBot-trwww.theregister.co.uk | OpenSUSE 13.1: Oh look, a Linux with YOU in mind (and 64-bit ARMs) • The Register  [ http://ur1.ca/g4l1u ]Dec 01 18:55
iophkhttp://www.techinasia.com/video-games-restricted-vietnam/Dec 01 18:55
TechrightsBot-trwww.techinasia.com | If you're under 18 and you use virtual currency in Vietnam, you'll be fined up to $3,500  [ http://ur1.ca/g4l1y ]Dec 01 18:55
MinceRso the m$ site pushes m$ linuxDec 01 18:59
MinceRwhat a surpriseDec 01 18:59
msb_MinceR: How is The Register an m$ site?  I missed that.Dec 01 19:02
MinceRthey keep pushing m$ and attacking free softwareDec 01 19:02
msb_OpenSuse is free software.Dec 01 19:03
iophkIt is full of M$ Dec 01 19:05
iophkThere is also the paper trail of patent liability which is not a joking matter.Dec 01 19:05
msb_iophk: How is it full of M$?   And how does this patent liability work?Dec 01 19:07
msb_iophk: Does it have dot.Net stuff in it?Dec 01 19:08
iophkread up on it, pleaseDec 01 19:08
msb_iophk: No definite answers?Dec 01 19:08
iophk!google microsoft novell patentsDec 01 19:09
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Microsoft gets Novell's Patents rights but must share them with Open ... | http://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/microsoft-gets-novells-patents-rights-but-must-share-them-with-open-source-software/8713Dec 01 19:09
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Microsoft-backed CPTN alters Novell patent acquisition terms - ZDNet | http://www.zdnet.com/blog/microsoft/microsoft-backed-cptn-alters-novell-patent-acquisition-terms-to-appease-antitrust-authorities/9250Dec 01 19:09
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Novell - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NovellDec 01 19:09
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Microsoft Purchasing 882 Novell Patents | TechHive | http://www.techhive.com/article/211366/microsoft_purchasing_882_novell_patents.htmlDec 01 19:09
msb_iophk: Which of those would tell me how any patent arrangements would cause me problems as an OpenSuse user?  What are the problems?Dec 01 19:10
iophkPatent payments are owed by the user.  At this particular moment, Novell/M$ choose not to pass it on to the user.  That *can* change Dec 01 19:11
msb_iophk: Is stuff covered by (now) MS patents in OpenSuse?Dec 01 19:11
iophkPatents like in GIF have been a problem. They are spread until deemed spread wide enough.Dec 01 19:12
msb_iophk: Is stuff covered by (now) MS patents in OpenSuse?Dec 01 19:12
iophkThe contracts say there is M$ stuff in Suse.Dec 01 19:12
msb_Which I might have to pay for in the future?Dec 01 19:13
iophkyes which you might have to pay at any timeDec 01 19:13
iophkGIF was one example of how that worked.Dec 01 19:13
iophkLet it spread, then collect.Dec 01 19:13
msb_Would you please point me to the contracts that say MS-patented stuff is in Suse?Dec 01 19:14
iophkroy has pointed it out to you before as have others.Dec 01 19:14
msb_I don't think he has pointed out that specific info.Dec 01 19:14
iophkThe details are not public apparently.Dec 01 19:14
iophkThe general liability is pointed out.Dec 01 19:15
iophkThat part is clear.Dec 01 19:15
msb_But if there is no actual MS-patented stuff is in Suse, how is there any liability?Dec 01 19:15
iophkNovell pays M$ , there is the liability.Dec 01 19:16
msb_They pay M$ for what exactly?Dec 01 19:16
iophk"patents"Dec 01 19:16
msb_And is that stuff also used in other distros?Dec 01 19:16
iophkhttp://news.cnet.com/Microsoft-makes-Linux-pact-with-Novell/2100-1016_3-6132119.htmlDec 01 19:17
iophkmostly notDec 01 19:17
TechrightsBot-trnews.cnet.com | Microsoft makes Linux pact with Novell - CNET News  [ http://ur1.ca/g4l4y ]Dec 01 19:17
MinceRmost other distros don't support m$'s and novell's unproven claims of infringementDec 01 19:17
iophkThe articles on Novell paying M$ are harder to find lately, they're there, just harder to find in the search engines.Dec 01 19:19
msb_That articles says that M$ will _not_ enforce patent claims agains Suse users.Dec 01 19:20
msb_Whereas it might against users of other distros.Dec 01 19:21
MinceRwhich means it is nonfreeDec 01 19:21
msb_But if the infringement claims are bogus, they are bogus for all distros.Dec 01 19:21
MinceRthe claims are secret.Dec 01 19:21
iophkIf that is even true, that they won't enforce againse Suse users, going along with that is encouraging that behavior.Dec 01 19:21
iophkExtortionDec 01 19:21
MinceRand such contracts help support the claimsDec 01 19:22
MinceRforcing others into entering into such deals as wellDec 01 19:22
msb_There is nowhere in the usage of Suse that I'm saying I'm "going along with that".Dec 01 19:22
iophkUsing it says explicitly that you are fine with thatDec 01 19:22
iophkvery much soDec 01 19:22
iophkmbs_: http://www.groklaw.net/staticpages/index.php?page=20061218045851480Dec 01 19:23
TechrightsBot-trwww.groklaw.net | Groklaw -  Novell-MS Deal  [ http://ur1.ca/g4l5l ]Dec 01 19:23
iophkThat's the start.  There have been renewals.Dec 01 19:23
msb_If M$ starts attacking Linux again, all Linux distros and users will fight them.Dec 01 19:23
MinceRactually there's plenty in the usage of [open]suse that says you're fine with thatDec 01 19:23
MinceRno, [open]suse will not fight themDec 01 19:24
MinceRi'm not sure if the other flavors of m$ linux have survivedDec 01 19:24
iophkOnly Red Hat would have money.Dec 01 19:24
iophkhttp://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20061221081000710Dec 01 19:25
TechrightsBot-trwww.groklaw.net | Groklaw - Jeremy Allison Has Resigned from Novell  to Protest  MS Patent Deal  [ http://ur1.ca/ffk3u ]Dec 01 19:25
msb_What are the "other flavors of m$ linux" ?Dec 01 19:27
MinceRthere was turbolinuxDec 01 19:27
MinceRit seems that linspire and xandros did such deals tooDec 01 19:28
iophkit was the end of those distrosDec 01 19:28
msb_Did paying MS cost them too much?Dec 01 19:29
iophkIt cost reputation, and money.Dec 01 19:29
msb_If MS starts suing Linux distros for patent infringement, how exactly will NovellDec 01 19:30
msb_'s secret contract harm those other distros?Dec 01 19:30
iophkby establishing encouragement for suing / payment for "secret" patentsDec 01 19:31
MinceRthat contract already harmed gnu and linuxDec 01 19:31
iophkIt only works if enough chumps go along with it.Dec 01 19:31
msb_If MS tells the court "see, Novell paid us", the other distros will just say "Bullshit".Dec 01 19:31
MinceRand continues to do soDec 01 19:31
iophkIt is already harming the other distros.Dec 01 19:31
msb_Either MS will actually have a case and will have to reveal it or they won't.  Their scamming of Novell has nothing to do with that.Dec 01 19:33
iophkSCODec 01 19:33
msb_so?Dec 01 19:34
iophkM$ can attack even without supporting grounds.Dec 01 19:34
iophkUsing [open]suse is voting for that in the future.Dec 01 19:34
MinceRit's easier for m$ to get others into such deals without having to defend their claims in court (or even revealing them) with each such dealDec 01 19:34
msb_It can always do that because we live under a fascist/corporatist economic system.Dec 01 19:34
iophkWith Android, M$ has gone the divide and conquer route, taking down companies one at a time.Dec 01 19:35
iophkand makes more off of Android than it's failure of a phoneDec 01 19:36
iophk*itsDec 01 19:36
msb_MS is a hugely criminal company.  I wrote a big page about that on my website:  http://cosmicpenguin.com/linux/MICROSOFTS_WAR_AGAINST_LINUX.htmlDec 01 19:38
TechrightsBot-trcosmicpenguin.com | MICROSOFT'S WAR AGAINST LINUX  [ http://ur1.ca/6f05a ]Dec 01 19:38
msb_But the only way to stop MS extortion is to call them on it.Dec 01 19:39
iophkBasically.Dec 01 19:39
msb_Just like in the SCO suit, where it turned out their claims were all lies.Dec 01 19:40
iophkSCO is still going.Dec 01 19:40
msb_What's the current status?Dec 01 19:40
iophkIt turned out to be lies within days, but the case is still going.Dec 01 19:40
msb_going where?Dec 01 19:41
MinceR[open]suse supports m$'s war against linuxDec 01 19:41
iophkhttp://www.groklaw.net/staticpages/index.php?page=20031016162215566Dec 01 19:41
TechrightsBot-trwww.groklaw.net | Groklaw - SCO v. IBM Timeline  [ http://ur1.ca/g4l7q ]Dec 01 19:41
iophkThere there is SCO vs others...Dec 01 19:41
iophkGroklaw is closed now.  Dec 01 19:41
iophkSo there will not be any more coverage of SCO .Dec 01 19:42
msb_The string "suse supports" does not appear on that page.Dec 01 19:43
MinceRnobody claimed it appeared there.Dec 01 19:43
iophkMinceR: he is being intentionally obtuseDec 01 19:44
msb_MinceR: ok, where did you find the evidence for what you wrote: " [open]suse supports m$'s war against linux" ?Dec 01 19:44
MinceRsee above.Dec 01 19:45
MinceRthis is what the novell deal and its advertisement does.Dec 01 19:45
msb_I am not.  If the only way to stop MS extortion is to call them on it, and demand they reveal what patents are being infringed and how, the whatever deals were made have no effect.Dec 01 19:46
msb_the -> thenDec 01 19:46
msb_The only effect is PR.Dec 01 19:47
MinceRdamaging PR.Dec 01 19:47
iophkAnd the establishment of a payment history.Dec 01 19:47
msb_That would have no effect on a court decision.Dec 01 19:47
iophkThey can point to Suse and say that Novell has been paying for X years.Dec 01 19:47
MinceRalso handing m$ even more money with which to take away our remaining freedoms.Dec 01 19:48
msb_And everyone can point to MS's history of extortion.Dec 01 19:48
iophkThen why go along with all that and be helping them attack F/OSS?Dec 01 19:48
msb_I don't pay for OpenSuse.Dec 01 19:48
iophkUse an unencumbered distro.  Dec 01 19:48
iophkYou're on the hook for suse even if Novell is (for the time) paying.Dec 01 19:49
iophkIt establishes that distros need to be paying M$Dec 01 19:49
iophkDon't take it personally.  Just move on to a Free distro.Dec 01 19:49
msb_This "encumbrance" is a matter of interpretation.Dec 01 19:49
iophkNo.Dec 01 19:49
msb_Other distros are not as good.Dec 01 19:50
iophkIt's a legal position.Dec 01 19:50
iophkDebian.  Ubuntu.  Mageia.  RHELDec 01 19:50
iophkThey're not as good, they're better.Dec 01 19:50
msb_How?Dec 01 19:50
iophkEasier to work with.Dec 01 19:50
MinceRindeed, other distros are better.Dec 01 19:50
msb_I don't think so.Dec 01 19:50
iophkAnd important to this conversation, unencumbered.Dec 01 19:51
iophkYou just talked about the problems of letting M$ get away with extortion.Dec 01 19:51
msb_Now you're going in circles.Dec 01 19:51
msb_That's a vagued-out misinterpretation of what I wrote.Dec 01 19:52
msb_I said that if MS attacks, they must be fought.  Same as any software patent attacks.Dec 01 19:52
iophkM$ is laying the ground work for the attack.  Dec 01 19:53
iophkIf you let them dig in, they will be hardest to fight.Dec 01 19:53
iophkDon't let them dig in.Dec 01 19:53
msb_Now you're reasoning from bogus analogy.  Dec 01 19:53
msb_To fight them we have to demand they reveal the secret patents.Dec 01 19:54
iophkAnd most of all, don't validate their claims by your choice of distro.Dec 01 19:54
msb_That's all that matters.Dec 01 19:54
msb_How about if I put a statement  on my homepage saying I'm using Suse in spite of its arrangement with M$?  So I'm not validating it.Dec 01 19:55
MinceRit's betterDec 01 19:56
iophkPeople seeing you use it won't see your home page.Dec 01 19:56
MinceRbut not using [open]suse is even betterDec 01 19:56
MinceRnot advertising [open]suse is also betterDec 01 19:56
iophkMaybe make it part of the desktop background image. :PDec 01 19:57
msb_Do you think all (or any) of the OpenSuse devs agree with the arrangement?Dec 01 19:57
MinceRthe ones who were on novell payroll certainly didDec 01 19:57
msb_You think they should have quit and let their families starve?Dec 01 19:58
iophkThe ones who disagreed left.Dec 01 19:58
iophkThe competent ones can get jobs elsewhere.Dec 01 19:58
msb_In this economy?Dec 01 19:58
iophkAllison got a new one within hours but then he's a superstarDec 01 19:58
iophkYesDec 01 19:58
msb_With competition from India?Dec 01 19:58
iophkIn this economy.  Skilled IT is sought afterDec 01 19:58
iophkAlso they don't have to quit till they've got a new job.  Dec 01 19:59
iophkBut the fact that they've stayed on  says their fine with what M$ is trying to do.Dec 01 19:59
msb_No it doesn't.Dec 01 20:00
iophkThrough their actions it does, very clearly.Dec 01 20:00
iophkThere have been 7 years to find new jobs.Dec 01 20:00
iophkUsually a new job is higher paying or otherwise better.Dec 01 20:00
msb_In capitalism employers are always coercing employees, without even trying.Dec 01 20:01
msb_You're living in the past.Dec 01 20:01
iophkFrom 2011 then : "Novell also agreed to pay Microsoft a percentage of revenue from its open-source products."Dec 01 20:01
iophkhttp://www.winrumors.com/microsoft-backs-out-of-acquiring-novell-patents-for-450-million/Dec 01 20:01
TechrightsBot-trwww.winrumors.com | Microsoft pulls papers for Novell patents deal worth $450 million | WinRumors  [ http://ur1.ca/g4la9 ]Dec 01 20:01
msb_So?Dec 01 20:02
msb_I'll bet if MS actually did attack, people would fork OpenSuse, and I'd use that.Dec 01 20:03
MinceRit would be too late to act once the attack happensDec 01 20:04
msb_Why>Dec 01 20:04
msb_?Dec 01 20:04
MinceRalso, there's no need to fork opensuse, as there are plenty of distros that are already much betterDec 01 20:04
msb_Sez you.Dec 01 20:04
iophkand the patents cover *use* not codeDec 01 20:04
MinceRbecause developing software that doesn't depend on patents that the ones you're replacing doesn't happen in a moment.Dec 01 20:04
iophkforking does nothing about patentsDec 01 20:04
iophkanyway since you can see the trap now, why walk into it?Dec 01 20:05
msb_But nobody knows if any patents are actually being infringed!Dec 01 20:05
iophkNovell might or might not know.Dec 01 20:05
iophkThe vagueness is part of the game M$ is trying.Dec 01 20:06
iophkThe infringment is declared by Novell.  It is paying M$ for the right to infringe on those patents.Dec 01 20:07
msb_The ones you should blame are anyone who uses MS-Dec 01 20:07
msb_windows.Dec 01 20:07
iophkand other M$ products like SuseDec 01 20:07
iophkthey are all underwriting M$ actions in this area.Dec 01 20:07
iophkM$ gets money from Novell.Dec 01 20:07
msb_But Novell gets no money from me.Dec 01 20:09
iophkThey do via your use of suse.Dec 01 20:09
msb_How?Dec 01 20:09
iophkIf noone used Suse then Novell would not pay.Dec 01 20:09
iophkNovell is just priming the pump for M$ to collect, either directly or, via Novell, indirectly.Dec 01 20:10
msb_More BS.  Novell doesn't even know how many people are using Suse.Dec 01 20:10
iophkSo, when does your patent statement hit your web page?Dec 01 20:10
msb_If one shop owner on a street pays off the mafia to avoid being attacked, that doesn't affect the others.Dec 01 20:11
iophkyes, it doesDec 01 20:12
iophkit affects them allDec 01 20:12
msb_But they're doing it to avoid being killed.Dec 01 20:12
iophkso your choice is getting killed or using Suse then?   I understand now.Dec 01 20:13
msb_totally bogus interpretationDec 01 20:13
msb_Where do you have a page on your website like my "MS WAR AGAINST LINUX" ?Dec 01 20:14
iophkWhat about the patents?Dec 01 20:14
msb_?Dec 01 20:15
msb_"I use OpenSuse Linux because I think it is the best engineered and maintained.  I absolutely do not approve of the actions of Novell, which bought it, in paying Microsoft money for vicous Microsoft extortion for its secret patents.  Please do not ever buy anything  from Microsoft!"Dec 01 20:23
msb_How's that?Dec 01 20:23
msb_...for my websiteDec 01 20:23
msb_iophk: ?Dec 01 20:23
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msb_iophk: ?Dec 01 20:26
MinceR"please do not use [open]suse!"Dec 01 20:27
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iophkUsage == market share == moneyDec 01 20:50
iophk"please do not use [open]suse!"Dec 01 20:50
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Sosumiit seems things are kind of heated in Ukraine, because of the falling apart of the EU dealDec 01 21:12
Sosumialso rummers point out for Dell releasing 4k display sometime soonDec 01 21:13
Sosumi*rummorsDec 01 21:13
Sosumiffs, rumoursDec 01 21:14
DaemonFCabout a minute agoDec 01 21:48
DaemonFChttp://www.fsf.org/givingguideDec 01 21:48
TechrightsBot-trwww.fsf.org | 2013 Holiday Giving Guide — Free Software Foundation — working together for free softwareDec 01 21:48
DaemonFCI recommend Android. I just bought an Android phone.Dec 01 21:48
DaemonFCIt's true that Android phones and tablets don't fully respect your freedom, but Apple just pisses all over it.Dec 01 21:48
DaemonFCWhen you use an Apple device, it's never truly yours, because it doesn't obey you. It has been programmed to obey Hollywood, the RIAA, and Apple first.Dec 01 21:48
DaemonFCSo, you're not even in control of what your iPhone or iPad runs. It has to be whitelisted by Apple first. They've used this power maliciously to keep out applications that can circumvent DRM, and to enforce their own software monopoly by keeping out applications that compete with Apple's software.Dec 01 21:48
DaemonFCApple devices are the most restrictive on the market. OS X on desktops and laptops is going in the same direction with the Gatekeeper malware in version 10.8.Dec 01 21:48
DaemonFCEventually, the choice to override Gatekeeper and install software that's not on Apple's whitelist will disappear.Dec 01 21:48
DaemonFCAnd there's a reason that they attacked their mobile users first. Mobile devices started out being less freedom-respecting than desktop computers, where users were accustomed to doing whatever they want. Now that Apple has gotten users to stop caring about their freedom with iThings, they're going to move those same restrictions back to their Macintosh computers.Dec 01 21:48
MinceRrestricted boot devices also piss over your freedomDec 01 21:50
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DaemonFC2 seconds agoDec 01 21:58
DaemonFCI think that Google understands that there's an important segment of their market that is fairly competent with technology. It's not the majority, but it's an important part of the market because they are the ones that recommend things to other people.Dec 01 21:58
DaemonFCApple has never tried to cater to people like me.Dec 01 21:58
DaemonFCWell, we see what the result is. Four out of five smartphones run Android, because there's basically no restrictions on what device manufacturers can use it.Dec 01 21:58
DaemonFCApple has a decent share of the market for a single company, but they're a minority as far as marketshare goes, and they're basically going to be the next Blackberry.Dec 01 21:58
DaemonFCCompanies that are developing iOS exclusives are going to go the way of websites designed for Internet Explorer.Dec 01 21:58
DaemonFCAnd iOS users are like your parents that ask you how you're supposed to set the alarm clock and program a remote control. If VCRs were still around, theirs would be flashing 12:00.Dec 01 21:59
DaemonFCa few seconds agoDec 01 22:07
DaemonFCHere are some actual replies to my personal ads that were sent from iOS users:Dec 01 22:07
DaemonFCHey loverDec 01 22:07
DaemonFCSent from my iPhoneDec 01 22:07
DaemonFC-----------Dec 01 22:08
DaemonFCI'm so interested hbu babyDec 01 22:08
DaemonFCSent from my iPhoneDec 01 22:08
DaemonFC-----------Dec 01 22:08
DaemonFC(I get a lot of these)Dec 01 22:08
DaemonFCWhat's upDec 01 22:08
DaemonFCSent from my iPhoneDec 01 22:08
DaemonFC-----------Dec 01 22:08
DaemonFC(I get a lot of these)Dec 01 22:08
DaemonFCHiDec 01 22:08
DaemonFCSent from my iPhoneDec 01 22:08
DaemonFC------------Dec 01 22:08
DaemonFC(I get a lot of these)Dec 01 22:08
DaemonFCHeyDec 01 22:08
DaemonFCSent from my iPhoneDec 01 22:08
DaemonFC------------Dec 01 22:08
DaemonFCText me (phone number)Dec 01 22:08
DaemonFCSent from my iPhoneDec 01 22:08
DaemonFC------------Dec 01 22:08
DaemonFCYou just haven talk to me I wrote you many time waiting for youDec 01 22:08
DaemonFCSent from my iPhoneDec 01 22:08
DaemonFCa few seconds agoDec 01 22:08
DaemonFCHow did the world become so plagued by people who are totally unable to express themselves?Dec 01 22:08
DaemonFCHow do these people afford iPhones?Dec 01 22:08
DaemonFCa few seconds agoDec 01 22:15
DaemonFCI mean, I'm not asking for Shakespeare or anything, but damn...Dec 01 22:15
DaemonFCI think I'm going to tell Mozilla Thunderbird to send all messages with "Sent from my iPhone" directly into the trash.Dec 01 22:15
DaemonFCTHE TRASH!Dec 01 22:15
SosumihahahahahahahahahaDec 01 22:26
Sosumicheap publicity stunt there with crapple enabling the "sent from hypephone" sig by defaultDec 01 22:27
Sosumithere's also one for the iPad and another for icloudDec 01 22:27
iophkhttp://techcrunch.com/2013/11/30/jolla-first-phone/Dec 01 22:27
TechrightsBot-trtechcrunch.com | Hands On With Jolla’s First Phone — The “Spearhead Device” For Its MeeGo-Successor Sailfish OS  |  TechCrunch  [ http://ur1.ca/g4mnj ]Dec 01 22:27
DaemonFChttps://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/1005017_188918071312380_202746617_n.jpgDec 01 22:43
DaemonFCMicrosoft very sore after backdoor access by NSA.Dec 01 22:43
DaemonFC:)Dec 01 22:44
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MinceR:)Dec 01 22:51
DaemonFC5 minutes agoDec 01 22:52
DaemonFCWell...Dec 01 22:52
DaemonFC#1: Microsoft is the one who backdoored Windows in the first place, to allow the NSA access to your system, and to allow them to silently install additional malware. They also changed Skype's network to make it easy for the NSA to listen to all Skype phone calls.Dec 01 22:52
DaemonFC#2: Microsoft was SURPRISED when the NSA accessed their internal network (which probably has a lot of Windows machines)?Dec 01 22:52
DaemonFC#3: They vow to encrypt their internal network, with encryption standards that were designed by the NSA.Dec 01 22:52
MinceRs/easy/easier/Dec 01 22:53
MinceRFTFYDec 01 22:53
DaemonFC3 minutes ago · EditedDec 01 23:00
DaemonFCI have a difficult time deciding which is worse. Apple or Microsoft.Dec 01 23:00
DaemonFCI suppose that if it was only a choice between Apple or Microsoft, I'd stop using computers entirely. They're two sides of the same coin. They are cut from the same cloth. They pretend to hate each other and fight bitterly, but they really are cooperating and making deals with each other behind the scenes, on how best and how quickly to screw you over and take away your rights. (Mostly through their Digital Restrictions Malware and App StoresDec 01 23:00
DaemonFC)Dec 01 23:00
DaemonFCThankfully, there are other choices. I choose Fedora GNU/Linux on my desktop, and Android on my mobile devices.Dec 01 23:00
DaemonFCIf you're willing to give up your freedoms, someone will always come along and take them. We found that out when there was a horrible attack against the American people in 2001, in which the politicians got together and passed the U SAP AT RIOT ACT.Dec 01 23:00
DaemonFC2 seconds agoDec 01 23:07
DaemonFCSome people have asked me whether I really approve of Obamacare or not.Dec 01 23:07
DaemonFCThe answer: It's a mixed bag.Dec 01 23:07
DaemonFCIt has some limited positive market-based reforms, which are more than paid for by the individual mandate.Dec 01 23:07
DaemonFCIt mostly leaves in place the health insurance criminals, and their business model, and guarantees that they will make more money for providing no care, and skimming money off the top for themselves.Dec 01 23:07
DaemonFCIt moderately improves Medicare, by reigning in the Part C and D costs. It should have eliminated Part C and cut the insurance companies out of Part D, and reduced the prescription drug reimbursement rate more than it did.Dec 01 23:07
DaemonFCIt does offer Medicaid to poor people, but the Republican governors would rather let poor people die than accept billions of dollars from the federal government to expand Medicaid, so half the states will leave the poor to die.Dec 01 23:07
DaemonFCIt's basically the same plan that Richard Nixon, the Heritage Foundation, and Mitt Romney were pitching not so very long ago.Dec 01 23:07
DaemonFCIt was stripped of the Public Option, a Medicare-like system that people could have opted-into.Dec 01 23:07
DaemonFCAnd, it will leave 37 million Americans without insurance.Dec 01 23:07
DaemonFCMore American people will still die every month from not having insurance than were killed on the September 11th attacks.Dec 01 23:07
DaemonFCAnd, one last thing. Bernie Sanders in 2016! Dec 01 23:07
MinceRColonel Sanders!Dec 01 23:10
DaemonFCMinceR: I think Senator Sanders would make a great president.Dec 01 23:10
DaemonFCI will vote for him in the Democratic primary.Dec 01 23:11
DaemonFCHe has a really long and consistent record as a true Progressive.Dec 01 23:11
DaemonFCAnd he's been fairly forceful and outspoken about it.Dec 01 23:11
DaemonFCThen again, so was Obama, for a while.Dec 01 23:11
DaemonFCExactly as long as it took him to become President and turn into a moderate Republican.Dec 01 23:12
DaemonFCBut, I still think that Sanders is the best thing that could come out of the Democratic Primary.Dec 01 23:12
DaemonFCThe only other option is going to be Hillary Clinton.Dec 01 23:12
MinceRwhich would be HillariousDec 01 23:12
DaemonFCYeah. She's an Obama-style corporate Democrat.Dec 01 23:12
DaemonFCAnd she might even be further to the right than he is.Dec 01 23:13
DaemonFC26 seconds ago · EditedDec 01 23:16
DaemonFCHealthcare shouldn't be a market. It should be like a public utility.Dec 01 23:16
DaemonFCThe first thing that the doctor asks you in Canada is "What's wrong?".Dec 01 23:16
DaemonFCThe first thing the doctor asks you in America is "What kind of insurance do you have?", and if you answer none, it will be "Cash or credit?".Dec 01 23:16
DaemonFCIt's like that credit card commercial from back in the 1990s, where the dude flatlines in the ER, and they swipe his credit card and wait for the network to approve it before shocking him.Dec 01 23:16
DaemonFCThe hospital ER can't really do that because of EMTALA, but it's still this gigantic scam, where they inflate the cost 1,000% and then go after your wages, bank account, house, and car.Dec 01 23:17
DaemonFCIt's just another way for the rich to confiscate the wealth and real property of the poor and middle class.Dec 01 23:17
MinceReither is better than hungary, where any capable and/or interested doctors have already fled the countryDec 01 23:17
MinceRbecause all the governments thought the doctors will work for free.Dec 01 23:17
MinceR(also that maintaining healthcare also costs no money)Dec 01 23:18
MinceRalso, Colonel SandurzDec 01 23:21
DaemonFCMinceR: That's basically how Medicaid works.Dec 01 23:22
DaemonFCIt reimburses the doctors like $10-15 for a visit, and as little as $4 for a well-child checkup.Dec 01 23:22
DaemonFCSo you have all these benefits that no doctor will accept.Dec 01 23:23
MinceRalso, i mixed the latter up with President SkroobDec 01 23:23
DaemonFCThe only thing that Medicaid is really good for is if you also have Medicare.Dec 01 23:23
DaemonFCThen it pays your Medicare premium.Dec 01 23:23
DaemonFCMedicaid is basically sham insurance. You're technically insured, but maybe 1 in 100 doctors will take it.Dec 01 23:24
DaemonFCAnd the ones that do are crooked or terrible.Dec 01 23:24
MinceRicDec 01 23:24
DaemonFCAn ex of mine had Medicaid. The dentist drilled and filled four teeth.Dec 01 23:24
DaemonFCHe had ONE cavity.Dec 01 23:24
MinceRoh, also, dental care is practically uncovered in hungaryDec 01 23:24
DaemonFCThat's the kind of doctor that takes Medicaid.Dec 01 23:24
MinceRmaybe they'll pay for having your teeth taken out, but that's about itDec 01 23:25
MinceReverything else you have to pay for in full.Dec 01 23:25
DaemonFCYeah. There's this guy I know that bought an iPhone and then had the dentist extract a tooth that was salvageable.Dec 01 23:26
DaemonFCThe iPhone cost him hundreds of dollars, and a filling would have been maybe $200 if he self-paid.Dec 01 23:26
DaemonFCNot the sharpest tool in the shed.Dec 01 23:26
DaemonFC:)Dec 01 23:26
MinceRwell, hypePhone buyers never areDec 01 23:26
DaemonFCI'd have saved the tooth. Fuck the phone.Dec 01 23:26
DaemonFCBut, I'm also not an idiot.Dec 01 23:26
DaemonFCB-)Dec 01 23:26
MinceRdon't fuck the phone, you'll get glass shards in your dick.Dec 01 23:26
DaemonFCLOLDec 01 23:27
DaemonFCGorilla Glass.Dec 01 23:27
DaemonFCThe stuff that implies it doesn't get scratched or break, and then it does.Dec 01 23:27
MinceRand then suppor will say "you're holding it wrong."Dec 01 23:27
MinceRs/por/port/Dec 01 23:27
DaemonFCMy brother said some kid in his high school was bragging about the Gorilla Glass on his iPhone.Dec 01 23:27
DaemonFCSo he intentionally threw it on the ground, and the screen shattered.Dec 01 23:27
MinceRlolDec 01 23:27
DaemonFCbrb, out to get dinner :)Dec 01 23:28
MinceR"i'm sorry to disappoint you, but almost any kind of glass can do that!"Dec 01 23:28
DaemonFCI got a coupon for a breaded cheeseburger, fries, and large drink for $4.99 at the Huggy Bear. B-)Dec 01 23:28
MinceR:)Dec 01 23:28
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DaemonFCI had to report a porn spammer that was linking to Windows malware to Facebook three times before they finally removed the account.Dec 02 00:18
DaemonFCThe first two times, they said they reviewed the account and couldn't find any Facebook Terms of Service violations.Dec 02 00:18
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Sosumihttp://yro.slashdot.org/story/13/12/01/1948257/bitcoin-thefts-surge-ddos-hackers-take-millions?utm_source=slashdot&utm_medium=twitterDec 02 00:55
TechrightsBot-tryro.slashdot.org | Bitcoin Thefts Surge, DDoS Hackers Take Millions - Slashdot  [ http://ur1.ca/g4o1n ]Dec 02 00:55
Sosumionline wallets should be a big noDec 02 00:55
Sosumialso protests is ukraine for EU membership are sounding more and more like some kind of Soros backed colour revolutionDec 02 00:56
Sosumiwhy bother with a synching ship? stay independent and play both sidesDec 02 00:56
Sosumiand that is strike a balance between russia and EU relationsDec 02 00:57
Sosumithe buttplug pro seems that it'll be released around this tuesdayDec 02 00:57
Sosumilet's see how much carpple asks for their underpowered *cough* pcDec 02 00:58
Sosumiand yes I'm still suspended on macrumors.comDec 02 00:58
Sosumifor the iPhone dude with the cavityDec 02 01:12
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Sosumia fool and his money are soon partedDec 02 01:12
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DaemonFCshared Mother Jones's photo.Dec 02 01:35
DaemonFCI don't know why anyone would complain about pick/packing dildos. Is that any more physically demanding than pick/packing any other merchandise? It seems like the dildos probably weigh less than furniture. I am confused. Dec 02 01:35
DaemonFCshared Engadget's photo.Dec 02 01:38
DaemonFC10 seconds agoDec 02 01:38
DaemonFChttp://engt.co/1b9uqVODec 02 01:38
TechrightsBot-trwww.engadget.com | Amazon unveils Prime Air drones on 60 minutes, aims to deliver in half an hour (video)Dec 02 01:38
DaemonFCInstead of Hellfire missiles, they can just strap a rocket motor onto the back of all the dildos that people order from Amazon and fire them into the house.Dec 02 01:38
DaemonFC Tango Down! Tango Down!Dec 02 01:40
DaemonFCAmazon has some stuff that's just downright freaky, if you look closely enough.Dec 02 01:44
DaemonFCI saw a "shower enema" system the other day that made me stop and think about who would be stupid enough to insert a pressurized water line up their butt. Dec 02 01:44
DaemonFCFort Wayne Center for NonviolenceDec 02 01:49
DaemonFCHappy world AIDS! Dec 02 01:49
DaemonFCRyan Farmer Uhhhm, world AIDS is not a thing to be happy about. FAIL..Dec 02 01:49
DaemonFCThe browser situation on iOS is just kind of sad.Dec 02 04:41
DaemonFCEverything has to use the system Webkit, so nobody can make a better iOS browser than Apple can, so there's no point in installing other browsers.Dec 02 04:41
DaemonFCThey should be sued for that.Dec 02 04:41
DaemonFCshared a link via Human Rights Campaign.Dec 02 04:45
DaemonFC8 seconds agoDec 02 04:45
DaemonFCThey've been saying that the end of the HIV pandemic is near for as long as I can remember. The fact is that the threat is growing.Dec 02 04:45
DaemonFCFundamentalist Christians have replaced comprehensive sex ed, condom distribution, and needle-swap with abstinence-only programs, which are proven to leave an STD and unwanted pregnancy crisis in their wake.Dec 02 04:45
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SEEVTar"The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck, they'll be making vacuum-cleaners" last part of http://www.vanwensveen.nl/rants/microsoft/IhateMS_2.htmlDec 02 10:47
TechrightsBot-trwww.vanwensveen.nl | Why I hate Microsoft  [ http://ur1.ca/g4rs1 ]Dec 02 10:47
SEEVTarGood night :DDec 02 10:52
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*schestowitz is now known as schestowitzsDec 02 11:24
schestowitzshttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/3358608Dec 02 11:50
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Apple free to spy on its users – as are all!  http://www.itwire.com/your-it-news/mobility/62452-apple-free-to-spy-on-its-users-%E2%80%93-as-are-all #apple still widely used, amazingly enough...Dec 02 11:50
schestowitzs"Outrageous, but I think Apple fanboys won't mind anyway."Dec 02 11:51
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.itwire.com | Apple free to spy on its users – as are all!  [ http://ur1.ca/g4j9z ]Dec 02 11:51
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iophkhttp://torrentfreak.com/copyright-monopoly-disintegration-inevitable-as-it-only-takes-a-single-country-131201/Dec 02 12:45
TechrightsBot-trtorrentfreak.com | Copyright Monopoly Disintegration Inevitable As It Only Takes A Single Country | TorrentFreak  [ http://ur1.ca/g4sba ]Dec 02 12:45
iophkhttp://www.chart-track.co.uk/?i=1753&s=1111Dec 02 12:51
TechrightsBot-trwww.chart-track.co.uk | GFK Chart-Track: UK News: Record Breaking Launch For PS4  [ http://ur1.ca/g4sc3 ]Dec 02 12:51
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info_detailsis there anyone here to assist me with a patent discrimination case ?Dec 02 13:49
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Sosumias a noteDec 02 14:54
Sosumigatekeeper was introduced with Lion aka 10.7 and not 10.8Dec 02 14:54
MinceRwhat's gatekeeper?Dec 02 14:59
Sosumithat things that restricts what can be installed in OSXDec 02 15:03
Sosumiunless you disable the thingDec 02 15:03
Sosumior pay 99€Dec 02 15:03
Sosumifor a real dev certification with appleDec 02 15:03
SosumiI was just pointing out that it came one version earlierDec 02 15:04
MinceRfunDec 02 15:04
Sosumiit's crap to prevent the typical mactard from screwing the whole computerDec 02 15:05
Sosumiand try to lock them down to the appstoreDec 02 15:06
MinceRit comes pre-screwed anyway :>Dec 02 15:06
Sosumiit does, even if you bought a mac to have an unix like OS that can run almost all proprietary software windows doesDec 02 15:07
Sosumiyou're screwed with crappy gnu driversDec 02 15:07
Sosumi*gpuDec 02 15:08
Sosumithat only see updates when the new revision o the model comes, with a new gpuDec 02 15:08
Sosumi:PDec 02 15:08
Sosumior under clocked hardware at the same pricing of the equivalent normal pc versionDec 02 15:09
Sosumiso yes, screwed from the begginingDec 02 15:10
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blob_http://www.times-herald.com/local/550450-20130601CommonCoreKerfuffle-SQDec 02 16:44
TechrightsBot-trwww.times-herald.com | 'Common Core' opposed in Senoia - The Newnan Times-Herald  [ http://ur1.ca/g4tdc ]Dec 02 16:44
blob_The Gates foundation is behind Common Core.Dec 02 16:46
blob_The info is burried deep in the article. Dec 02 16:47
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iophk"There are also concerns about the longitudinal data system that goes  along with Common Core. The system is designed to collect up to 400 data  points on each child, which can include personally identifiable data,  she said. The data will be collected by a company called inBloom,  created by the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation."Dec 02 16:49
schestowitzsyeahDec 02 16:49
schestowitzsI covered thatDec 02 16:49
iophkYes.Dec 02 16:49
iophkBut local news picked up on it there.  I wonder if word is getting out.Dec 02 16:50
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schestowitzsyes, many picked it upDec 02 16:51
schestowitzswhich is an encouraging signDec 02 16:51
schestowitzsI think it is becoming permissible again to slam GatesDec 02 16:51
schestowitzsThere was a period like a grace period where his foundation didn't do quite as much evolDec 02 16:52
schestowitzsA bit like Google after 2007, I think, as RMS put it to meDec 02 16:52
schestowitzsI forgot which year he named, or maybe it was someone else who put a finger on itDec 02 16:52
MinceRhttp://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user3303/imageroot/2013/11/20131202_drone_0.jpgDec 02 17:23
schestowitzsjust got mail from RMS re Re: Manchester crypto-partyDec 02 17:27
schestowitzs"Dec 02 17:27
schestowitzs> Could you spread the word about Dec 02 17:27
schestowitzs> http://www.cryptoparty-mcr.org/?Dec 02 17:27
schestowitzsI already have. My wife and I signed up as attendants and I have tweeted about it, written about it in Disapora, etc. I often attend those same meetings in the same place (FSFE folks/Manchester Free Software). It's half a mile from my house.Dec 02 17:27
TechrightsBot-trwww.cryptoparty-mcr.org | Dec 02 17:27
schestowitzsBy the way, have you ever spoken to Asher Wolf? I think he's Australia and he is probably the (co)creator of such parties.Dec 02 17:27
schestowitzs'Dec 02 17:27
iophkYou might bring some installation media in case people are ready to ditch windows, if they are still on that.Dec 02 17:28
iophkIt's not much sense to run crypto on Windows.Dec 02 17:28
iophkBut some still run it anyway.Dec 02 17:28
schestowitzs"Dec 02 17:34
schestowitzs> [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider    ]]]Dec 02 17:34
schestowitzs> [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies,     ]]]Dec 02 17:34
schestowitzs> [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]]Dec 02 17:34
schestowitzs> Dec 02 17:34
schestowitzs> This time it was only your key.Dec 02 17:34
schestowitzsMy previous PGP exchanges with people were much simpler. Maybe they were doing it the wrong way.Dec 02 17:34
schestowitzs"Dec 02 17:34
schestowitzshttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/3361999Dec 02 17:35
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: RMS on Bitcoin http://youtu.be/RZ_3MKomQzYDec 02 17:35
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.youtube.com | Richard Stallman on good things and bad things about Bitcoin - YouTubeDec 02 17:35
schestowitzs"what is that 20 year old technology he speaks of? Chaum's e-cash? that was centralized"Dec 02 17:35
schestowitzshttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/3358771Dec 02 17:35
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: RT @JesselynRadack  Heard 3X: "#Snowden is prob feeling really  depressed. Do you think he's suicidal? [1/2]Dec 02 17:35
schestowitzs"The most depressing thing has got to be seeing so much bullshit and so little change. Talk about "suicidal" is very threatening."Dec 02 17:35
schestowitzsPrelude to suiciding a person.... think David Kelly.Dec 02 17:35
schestowitzs"How many since the year 2001 though ? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Soviet_and_Eastern_Bloc_defectors"Dec 02 17:36
TechrightsBot-tren.wikipedia.org | List of Soviet and Eastern Bloc defectors - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia  [ http://ur1.ca/g4tst ]Dec 02 17:36
schestowitzshttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/3362675Dec 02 18:11
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Describing someone famous as depressed or suicidal is often preparation for assassination or an attempt to drive a person into those states.Dec 02 18:11
schestowitzs"That is a worrying thought ........."Dec 02 18:11
schestowitzs"https://www.google.co.uk/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=assange+depressed&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&gws_rd=cr& Seems like people hunted down by the USA do get depressed at times though ...... I think anyone in that situation would"Dec 02 18:12
TechrightsBot-trwww.google.co.uk | assange depressed - Google Search  [ http://ur1.ca/g4u49 ]Dec 02 18:12
schestowitzsNo, it's a lie.  Assange and others refuted it.Dec 02 18:12
iophkIt's getting spread from somewhere.Dec 02 18:12
iophkthe lie that isDec 02 18:12
schestowitzsit'll help if he falls down the stairs and diesDec 02 18:20
schestowitzscan support one official theory, but of course stairs are a metaphor here (familuar one)Dec 02 18:20
schestowitzsIf he dies they can later link to these many 'planted' reportsDec 02 18:21
schestowitzswhile he's no longer alive to rebut theseDec 02 18:21
schestowitzshttp://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2013/11/lavabit-reply-brief/Dec 02 18:26
TechrightsBot-trwww.wired.com | Lavabit Strikes Back at Feds in Key Internet Privacy Case | Threat Level | Wired.com  [ http://ur1.ca/g4u8l ]Dec 02 18:26
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iophkhttp://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/dec/02/snowden-leak-tech-privacy-nsa-gchq-surveillanceDec 02 19:21
TechrightsBot-trwww.theguardian.com | How the Snowden leak is changing the tech landscape | World news | The Guardian  [ http://ur1.ca/g4ure ]Dec 02 19:21
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sebsebsebhiDec 02 20:21
sebsebsebiophk: MinceR msb_ openSUSEDec 02 20:21
msb_yes? ......Dec 02 20:22
msb_hi!Dec 02 20:22
sebsebsebmsb_: openSUSE loves iophk and MinceRDec 02 20:22
sebsebseband schestowitz_logDec 02 20:22
sebsebsebroy_: Dec 02 20:23
MinceRsebsebseb: calm downDec 02 20:23
msb_OpenSuse loves everyone!Dec 02 20:23
sebsebsebMinceR: heh hehDec 02 20:23
sebsebseboh yeah deifntly by the chat htey had yesterdayDec 02 20:23
sebsebseball the reasons they thought openSUSE should be used :dDec 02 20:24
MinceRopensuse hates your freedomDec 02 20:24
msb_A beautiful German girl gave me her Suse cap a decade ago at the West Coast Computer Faire.Dec 02 20:24
iophkhttp://www.infoworld.com/d/application-development/tech-boom-the-war-top-developer-talent-231709Dec 02 20:27
TechrightsBot-trwww.infoworld.com | Tech boom! The war for top developer talent | Application Development - InfoWorld  [ http://ur1.ca/g4vc8 ]Dec 02 20:27
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sebsebsebmsb_: back computer issuesDec 02 20:31
sebsebsebwhat was said after the cap bit?Dec 02 20:31
msb_???Dec 02 20:32
msb_I only said that now.Dec 02 20:32
msb_sebsebseb: I have to go to DMV to renew my license now.  But tonight or tomorrow I can extract the part of the log about this and send it to you.Dec 02 20:33
sebsebsebmsb_: about which?Dec 02 20:34
sebsebseband this channel  gets logged Dec 02 20:34
msb_The Suse discussion.Dec 02 20:34
msb_What did you want?Dec 02 20:34
msb_Right, you can get it from Roy too.Dec 02 20:35
sebsebsebmsb_: oh  for MinceR and iophk to  know your love for openSUSE and yo theirs heh hehDec 02 20:35
sebsebseband Roy'sDec 02 20:35
sebsebsebmsb_: no  it's just they really don't like openSUSE around hereDec 02 20:35
sebsebsebquite a few of htemDec 02 20:35
sebsebseband now I have to deal with it for an eventDec 02 20:35
iophkhttp://trisquel.info/Dec 02 20:35
TechrightsBot-trtrisquel.info | Trisquel GNU/Linux - Run free!Dec 02 20:35
sebsebsebsince my distro and GNOME 3 got out votedDec 02 20:35
sebsebseb,but openSUSE do have some quite nice merchnadice that's for sureDec 02 20:35
msb_They still have KDE3, and now have Ruby 2.0!Dec 02 20:36
msb_THey;ve rewritten the admin program, yast, in Ruiby!Dec 02 20:36
sebsebsebno openSUSE is using KDE 4 nowDec 02 20:37
sebsebsebas far as I knowDec 02 20:37
sebsebsebor do you  mean KDE 3 is in the repo's as well?Dec 02 20:37
msb_They have both.Dec 02 20:37
sebsebsebohDec 02 20:37
sebsebsebyou sure it's not Trinity project?Dec 02 20:37
msb_nopeDec 02 20:37
sebsebsebthe KDE 3 forkDec 02 20:37
msb_it's notDec 02 20:37
sebsebsebohDec 02 20:37
sebsebsebiophk: MinceR msb_ so if soeone buys from openSUSE online hsopDec 02 20:38
sebsebsebthey indirecty support Microsoft apparnatly?Dec 02 20:38
msb_To some tiny degree.  Insignificant compared to Windows revenue.Dec 02 20:39
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msb_But I just use the free one.Dec 02 20:40
msb_Anyhow, good luck with it.  Their IRC help is excellent.Dec 02 20:40
msb_Sorry, I gotta go.Dec 02 20:40
msb_See ya later!Dec 02 20:41
MinceRsebsebseb: indeed.Dec 02 20:42
MinceRsebsebseb: also if they advertise [open]suse.Dec 02 20:42
msb_BTW, the current latest version, 13.1 is a long-term support revolving update (Whatever that's called) one.Dec 02 20:43
sebsebsebMinceR: well that event is going to advertise openSUSE to an extent now hmmDec 02 20:44
sebsebsebmsb_: ohDec 02 20:44
sebsebsebhow long supported for?Dec 02 20:44
msb_3 years maybe.  I think it's in this good article:  http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/11/27/review_opensuse_13_1/Dec 02 20:44
TechrightsBot-trwww.theregister.co.uk | OpenSUSE 13.1: Oh look, a Linux with YOU in mind (and 64-bit ARMs) • The Register  [ http://ur1.ca/g4l1u ]Dec 02 20:44
msb_Also tells how to get Nvidia support which isn't in the repo yet.Dec 02 20:45
msb_In the comments.Dec 02 20:45
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msb_OK, byebye.  Have a lot of fun!Dec 02 20:46
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Sosumihttp://slashdot.org/topic/datacenter/d-link-closes-backdoor-on-some-home-routers/Dec 03 00:34
TechrightsBot-trslashdot.org | D-Link Closes Backdoor on Some Home Routers  [ http://ur1.ca/g4wst ]Dec 03 00:34
Sosumicisco should do the sameDec 03 00:34