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DaemonFCshared The Other 98%'s photo.Dec 15 01:56
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DaemonFChttps://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/p480x480/1476159_724305034247144_213480629_n.jpgDec 15 01:56
DaemonFCFive days out of the month, it only took one of them to wipe out an entire army of men. True story! j/k LOLDec 15 01:57
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DaemonFChttps://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/p480x480/1479463_724301720914142_587712941_n.jpgDec 15 02:11
DaemonFCI'm a reasonably physically healthy 29 year old man with no blood borne diseases. I have a blood type that can be accepted by pretty much everyone on Earth. I have been permanently banned from donating blood, plasma, and organs because I am gay.Dec 15 02:11
DaemonFCThink about that, the next time a disaster happens, thousands of people are bleeding, and the Red Cross can't get enough of you to donate blood.Dec 15 02:11
DaemonFCIf I die, they will allow perfectly usable organs to rot. Think about that, the next time you know someone that needs an eye, heart, lung, liver, kidney, etc. and can't get one.Dec 15 02:11
DaemonFCThen thank the Republican Party, right-wing homophobia, and a CDC policy that dates back to the Reagan 80s and is based on fear, not science.Dec 15 02:11
DaemonFCThen pat yourselves on the back, if you think I should still be banned, for letting other people die.Dec 15 02:11
DaemonFCI am tired of this shit. Tired of this shit. When are people going to wake up and smell reality?Dec 15 02:11
DaemonFCWhen you go down to the centers where they collect blood and plasma, and pay people to donate, look around. These are college students. These are alcoholics. These are people who you know are probably having unprotected sex. Since they're straight, we have a national policy to let them donate anyway. They're more of a risk to public health than I am. The Red Cross tests *EVERY* blood sample donated. Every single one. *If* a donor has HIV, theDec 15 02:11
DaemonFCfourth generation tests that they use will usually catch it within five days of infection. That's how good the tests are. All they really have to ask people now is the following question.Dec 15 02:11
DaemonFC"Have you had unprotected sex, with anyone, in the last week?"Dec 15 02:11
DaemonFCBut, we have this stupid paranoia that is causing people to die because of blood, plasma, and organ shortages. STUPID people and their STUPID public policy are letting this continue, because they have irrational, illogical prejudices. That's all that's keeping this policy around now that we have modern medical science.Dec 15 02:11
DaemonFC24 seconds agoDec 15 02:11
DaemonFCPlease contact the Red Cross at 1-800-733-2767, and tell them "It's time to end the ban on blood, plasma, tissue, and organ donations from gay and bisexual men. This policy is rooted in thirty year old hysteria, not modern medical science. Please replace your questions about sex partners with one that simply asks everyone if they've had unprotected sex recently. You are allowing straight people who have unprotected sex with an unlimited Dec 15 02:11
DaemonFCnumber of partners donate all of these things, and that *is* a public health hazard. Thank you."Dec 15 02:12
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Sosumiany word from google about removing that that "mistaken" update that did away with the permission tab?Dec 15 02:54
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iophkhttp://torrentfreak.com/measures-to-black-out-pirate-sites-unanimously-approved-131215/Dec 15 10:00
TechrightsBot-trtorrentfreak.com | Measures to Black Out Pirate Sites Unanimously Approved  | TorrentFreak  [ http://ur1.ca/g6z7m ]Dec 15 10:00
iophkhttps://blog.torservers.net/20131213/torservers-awarded-250000-by-digital-defenders.htmlDec 15 11:11
TechrightsBot-trblog.torservers.net | torservers.net blog  [ http://ur1.ca/g6zp7 ]Dec 15 11:11
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iophkhttp://betanews.com/2013/12/12/dont-fall-prey-to-gmails-image-problem/Dec 15 11:14
TechrightsBot-trbetanews.com | Don't fall prey to Gmail's image problem  [ http://ur1.ca/g6zpt ]Dec 15 11:14
oiaohmiophk: yes its funny.Dec 15 11:18
oiaohmiophk: google already has you sniffed anyhow.Dec 15 11:19
oiaohmiophk: the fact they are blocking thrid parties from sniffing I wonder if we will see a anti-trust case against google.Dec 15 11:19
iophkyes they have all the info, but the new settings allow spammers and others to track alsoDec 15 11:19
iophkAnti-trust probably doesn't apply here.Dec 15 11:20
oiaohmiophk: if you look closer no it does not.Dec 15 11:20
oiaohmGoogle is acting as the middle man.Dec 15 11:20
oiaohmSo third parties only see that a google server collected the image then cached it.Dec 15 11:21
iophkyes but at some time they might start really abusing their control or position first-handDec 15 11:21
iophkthen anti-trust would apply. Dec 15 11:21
iophkBut anti-trust has been slow and weak in recent decades.Dec 15 11:21
oiaohmNote most spam email is balk identical.Dec 15 11:21
oiaohmSo identical images and links inside.Dec 15 11:22
oiaohmWhat google is doing to track spammer will have todo per email emails.Dec 15 11:22
iophkgmail's non-javascript configuration interface does not allow disabling of remote images.Dec 15 11:24
oiaohmiophk: the thing here is they are no longer remote.Dec 15 11:24
iophkremote and local at the same timeDec 15 11:24
oiaohmThey are from google servers same servers you are going to for your email.Dec 15 11:24
iophkthe cache is a proxyDec 15 11:24
oiaohmiophk: the proxy is a filter.Dec 15 11:25
oiaohmThe address you are using to the google proxy is a google unique address.Dec 15 11:25
oiaohmSo no cookies from target or any other marker get to you.Dec 15 11:25
iophkNo.  Just if the have sent unique urls.Dec 15 11:26
oiaohmiophk: they never got you ip addressDec 15 11:26
oiaohmThey never got to set cookies in your browser.Dec 15 11:26
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oiaohmIf they sent unique url all they get is that your email is active.Dec 15 11:27
iophkYes, that can be bad enough.Dec 15 11:27
oiaohmiophk: and maybe not that.Dec 15 11:27
iophkToo bad the politicians did not take the problem of spam seriously at the end of the 90'sDec 15 11:27
oiaohmiophk: why google bot is the one collecting the data.Dec 15 11:27
oiaohmSo end person is left guessing.Dec 15 11:27
oiaohmWas it some random luck that google bot found it.Dec 15 11:28
oiaohmiophk: now the other thing google may not wait for you to open the email to collect the images either.Dec 15 11:28
oiaohmiophk: this is the complete problem for the spammers.Dec 15 11:29
oiaohmRemember they are paid on click and paid on view and so on.Dec 15 11:29
oiaohmGoogle alteration undoes there means to prove viewed.Dec 15 11:30
iophkonly if the cache preloads the imageDec 15 11:31
iophkif the cache loads only on demand then it shows that the user has viewed the imageDec 15 11:31
oiaohmiophk: and the current configuation it does preload the iamge.Dec 15 11:32
iophkor at least opened the spamDec 15 11:32
oiaohmiophk: google is virus scanning.Dec 15 11:32
iophkthe new default is to load the remote images.  That was just changed.Dec 15 11:32
oiaohmby proxy.Dec 15 11:32
oiaohmBut for person bandwidth I still would like an option for images off.Dec 15 11:33
iophkYes, load them by proxy, but load them by default.  It's there in Gmail's settings.Dec 15 11:33
iophkImages off completely would be best.Dec 15 11:33
iophkHTML mail is a pox.Dec 15 11:33
oiaohmiophk: for ID malware hidden scanning the images is required.Dec 15 11:33
oiaohmNot everyone is using google web client.Dec 15 11:33
oiaohmwith gmail.Dec 15 11:33
iophkI'm pretty sure 100% can be deleted automatically without losing anything.Dec 15 11:33
oiaohmThe proxy is a google gmail secuirty upgrade.Dec 15 11:34
oiaohmdeeper and more complete scanning of email.Dec 15 11:34
oiaohmNow of course that is good and bad.Dec 15 11:34
oiaohmBad for malware and spammers.Dec 15 11:34
oiaohmBad for NSA collected information from google.Dec 15 11:35
oiaohmGood for letting less viruses and malware past.Dec 15 11:35
oiaohmiophk: basically I see good and bad in what google has just done.Dec 15 11:36
iophkyes, it has those advantagesDec 15 11:37
iophkNSA can just get info direct from Google's servers, the proxy won't affect much if anything.Dec 15 11:37
oiaohmBad is more bandwidth used between user and google checking mail.Dec 15 11:37
oiaohmiophk: other than the fact NSA knows from google when you viewed those emails.Dec 15 11:47
oiaohmiophk: including the images.Dec 15 11:47
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schestowitz_bed2https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3410670Dec 15 19:23
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: # Linus on Google's accidentally doing right:  Android privacy tool withdrawn after "accidental" releaseDec 15 19:23
TechrightsBot-tr-> plus.google.com | Linus Torvalds - Google+ - This is sad. With all the posturing Google has done over…  [ http://ur1.ca/g756u ]Dec 15 19:23
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.eff.org | Awesome Privacy Tools in Android 4.3+ | Electronic Frontier Foundation  [ http://ur1.ca/g6czk ]Dec 15 19:23
schestowitz_bed2"Dec 15 19:24
schestowitz_bed2This is why I don't like Android - non free apps have been able to rape users all along. All the apps wanted everything and it was impossible to do things without an actual cell phone number. I don't know what magic Google has to keep an app from making a copy of my addressbook or from capturing a password that would give full access to my email, but I imagine it's full of holes.Dec 15 19:24
schestowitz_bed2The phone companies are the worst. It was impossible for me to get VOIP without having a "real" phone number from a damn SIM card. Even Google voice was like this. Hangouts worked for other G+ users. You just can't connect to the phone system with it unless you have a phone line.Dec 15 19:24
schestowitz_bed2Particularly disgusting was Vonnage, which I use at home without a phone line. I would have thought the company would be happy with me identifying myself and putting their crappy binary on my phone. The program even had a preference that would make it wifi only. Just the same, it demanded my cell phone's number to finish verifying who I was.Dec 15 19:24
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schestowitz_bed2@Will: ayup to all of that.Dec 15 19:25
schestowitz_bed2I'm looking to replace my current smartphone, and the best option I seem to find at present is toDec 15 19:25
schestowitz_bed2    Get a "dumb" featurephone. The biggest problem of which is that I've grown rather addicted to one particular Android app: an effing call screening tool (though those are about the most intrusive of all privacy-invasion apps). I really effing hate being interrupted by phone calls, especially from absolute strangers. And shutting the damned thing off all the time isn't quite an option.Dec 15 19:25
schestowitz_bed2    Get a tablet, preferably one capable of loading a custom mod and/or actual Linux load (what's the state of those -- Ubuntu's been making noises, and I think there's a couple of other alternatives). A phone is, ultimately, a little too small to be useful for content. A tablet just noses in for dealing with content. The ability to have 3G/4G connectivity when mobile would be cool, though most of the time WiFi seems to be Dec 15 19:25
schestowitz_bed2sufficient.Dec 15 19:25
schestowitz_bed2Google's making it really hard for me to like them these days.Dec 15 19:25
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schestowitz_bed2"Dec 15 19:25
schestowitz_bed2You should check http://aokp.co/ a free software distro of Android without big brother G dependancies. Then use http://f-droid.org/ repositories and install only what you might need...Dec 15 19:25
TechrightsBot-traokp.co | AOKP.coDec 15 19:25
schestowitz_bed2Off course no fb no wat$$app no big companies neither social media. For twitter check different options.Dec 15 19:25
TechrightsBot-trf-droid.org | F-Droid ·Dec 15 19:25
schestowitz_bed2"Dec 15 19:25
schestowitz_bed2"Dec 15 19:25
schestowitz_bed2@jorge_sd: can you sideload mainstream apps? There's a small handful I've found useful.Dec 15 19:25
schestowitz_bed2Otherwise, the main use I'd have for a tablet would be for Web and content reading.Dec 15 19:25
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schestowitz_bed2https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3415778Dec 15 19:34
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: RT @qu1j0t3 RT @BoycotStarbucks Millions of people are realizing that  money they spend at Starbucks is being drained out of the community.Dec 15 19:34
schestowitz_bed2"Dec 15 19:34
schestowitz_bed2I do not see how Starbucks is draining money out of a community - is there a link to something that shows what you mean ......Dec 15 19:34
schestowitz_bed2Buying coffee drains money out of the community how ?Dec 15 19:34
schestowitz_bed2https://www.google.co.uk/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=Buying+coffee+drains+money+out+of+the+community&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&gl=uk&gws_rd=cr&Dec 15 19:35
TechrightsBot-trwww.google.co.uk | Buying coffee drains money out of the community - Google Search  [ http://ur1.ca/g75eq ]Dec 15 19:35
schestowitz_bed2The bigger drain is the amount going into the Military Industrial Complex .......... straight out of the value gained by all people working ...... $500 Billion Dollars ........ takes an awful lot of coffee to compete with that ........Dec 15 19:35
schestowitz_bed2Especially after paying peoples wages - paying for the cofffee paying for the rent and heating and cleaning of the establishments.Dec 15 19:35
schestowitz_bed2But would be interesting to see how much money comes from Starbucks alone ...........Dec 15 19:35
schestowitz_bed2The bigger picture seems to be tax paid and how it is divided up into what is needed in the USA and what is superficial and brings no benefit to the people of the USA or the World .........Dec 15 19:35
schestowitz_bed2Being the World Police Force without asking if the rest of the World really needs Police from one country sorting out all the World Problems ........ which by the way mainly stem from resources OIL .... GAS ...........Dec 15 19:35
schestowitz_bed2Which if the USA was not on such a hunting party for OIL and GAS all over the World ........ then fewer incidents would be happening.Dec 15 19:35
schestowitz_bed2IMHO .......... but coffee ........ thought their business now revolved around good ethics ........Dec 15 19:35
schestowitz_bed2https://www.google.co.uk/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=starbucks+coffee&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&gl=uk&gws_rd=cr&Dec 15 19:35
TechrightsBot-trwww.google.co.uk | starbucks coffee - Google Search  [ http://ur1.ca/g75ev ]Dec 15 19:35
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schestowitz_bed2https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3414949Dec 15 19:47
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Sky 'news' is somewhat of a hypocritical satire when it comes to covering Mandela today. Torture just watching it.Dec 15 19:47
schestowitz_bed2"No sign language interpreter this time?"Dec 15 19:47
schestowitz_bed2https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3413444Dec 15 19:47
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: NSA does what in the physical world we would never accept https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pcWlyUu8U4Dec 15 19:47
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.youtube.com | The NSA is Coming to Town - YouTube  [ http://ur1.ca/g75lx ]Dec 15 19:47
schestowitz_bed2"I think they are working on making people accept the physical violations too. Airports, schools, etc, are ahead of the game."Dec 15 19:48
schestowitz_bed2"In large parts of Amsterdam for years already the police randomly closes down streets and squares to frisk anyone present and most most people already have accepted that... :-("Dec 15 19:48
schestowitz_bed2https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3410790Dec 15 19:50
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The #cia is "disappearing" its own people http://www.ndtv.com/article/world/a-disappearing-us-spy-and-a-scandal-at-the-cia-458610 never mind "secret" prisons http://www.nation.com.pk/international/14-Dec-2013/us-congress-cia-still-feuding-over-secret-prisonsDec 15 19:50
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.ndtv.com | A disappearing US spy, and a scandal at the CIA | NDTV.com  [ http://ur1.ca/g75n2 ]Dec 15 19:50
schestowitz_bed2"Great place to work?"Dec 15 19:50
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.nation.com.pk | US Congress, CIA still feuding over secret prisons  [ http://ur1.ca/g75n3 ]Dec 15 19:50
schestowitz_bed2https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3413458Dec 15 19:51
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: There are NSA practices which have been known for years but leaks have not proven yet.Dec 15 19:51
schestowitz_bed2"Pas nouveau, pas besoin d'un Snodewn pour savoir ça, ont le sait depuis bien longtemps sauf qu'avant on en parlait pas !"Dec 15 19:51
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schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3415902\Dec 15 20:43
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Microsoft Jack shows his ignorance http://discussion.theguardian.com/discussion/p/3y7t2 how much more #microsoft ads can Guardian endure?  http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/The_GuardianDec 15 20:43
TechrightsBot-tr-> discussion.theguardian.com | Guardian discussion | Linux laptops: should you avoid buying Windows?  [ http://ur1.ca/g6v5d ]Dec 15 20:43
TechrightsBot-tr-> techrights.org | The Guardian - Techrights  [ http://ur1.ca/cfind ]Dec 15 20:43
schestowitz__"Oh wow, that's a "staff replies" view that has so much more than the first two comments. Jack really does show himself there."Dec 15 20:43
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3416037Dec 15 20:43
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Microsoft has been using GNU/Linux internally for hosting (in quite a few cases). INTERNALLY. Maybe it wants no back doors INSIDE company.Dec 15 20:43
schestowitz__"Where can I read about this internal usage?"Dec 15 20:43
schestowitz__I gave 5 or so examples about 4 years ago.Dec 15 20:43
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3415819Dec 15 20:44
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: A lot of military & government depts around the world have already abandoned NSA Windows for security reasons. Expect more in years to come.Dec 15 20:44
schestowitz__"There are rumors of a Microsoft Android from Nokia called "Normandy". What silly things that bastard Bill does."Dec 15 20:44
schestowitz__Maybe trying to outdo free  Android with taxed and controlled Nokia (with b0ng etc.), like Facebook with"Home"... and Novell with SUSE.Dec 15 20:45
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3415816Dec 15 20:45
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: How about referring to #Microsoft Windows as "NSA Windows" from now on? Microsoft in itself is synonymous with crime, but NSA more so.Dec 15 20:45
schestowitz__"The relationship between Gates and the US government is difficult to fully understand. It might be the MS NSA."Dec 15 20:45
schestowitz__“Gates met Noorda briefly in San Francisco to discuss the merger [...] before the merger could go forward, he said Novell had to drop its plans to buy Digital Research. [...] when Noorda raised the possibility that the Justice Department might try to block a merger between the first and third biggest software companies on the planet, Gates responded, “Don’t worry, we know how to handle the federal government.” [...] Gates Dec 15 20:47
schestowitz__denied every saying such a thing”Dec 15 20:47
schestowitz__http://bil-gates.blogspot.com/Dec 15 20:47
TechrightsBot-trbil-gates.blogspot.mx | BILL GATES and the Race to Control CyberspaceDec 15 20:47
schestowitz__http://www.google.com/custom?client=pub-2479740519054892&cof=FORID%3A1%3BGL%3A1%3BS%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fschestowitz.com%3BL%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Ftechrights.org%2Ftechrights-search.png%3BLH%3A50%3BLW%3A50%3BLBGC%3A999999%3BLC%3A%23666666%3BVLC%3A%23999999%3BGALT%3A%23999999%3BGFNT%3A%23333333%3BGIMP%3A%23333333%3BDIV%3A%23336699%3B&sitesearch=techrights.org&hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&oe=ISO-8859-1&q=gates+clinton&btnG=SearchDec 15 20:47
TechrightsBot-trwww.google.com | gates clinton - Google Search  [ http://ur1.ca/g76hq ]Dec 15 20:47
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3415013Dec 15 20:48
schestowitz__"Pretoria, hurrah!"Dec 15 20:48
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Hypocrite on stage https://pod.geraspora.de/uploads/images/scaled_full_094ddde69120cd0be5e9.jpg #mandelaDec 15 20:48
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3416341Dec 15 20:54
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Why does White House keep "burning" US citizens even after some "dissidents" in the field of journalism (aka "terrorists") expose the lies?Dec 15 20:54
schestowitz__"to show they can and create a sense of hopelessness?"Dec 15 20:54
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Sosumihttp://semiaccurate.com/2013/12/09/tablet-oses-killed-windows-8-microsoft/Dec 15 22:36
TechrightsBot-trsemiaccurate.com | Tablet OSes killed Windows 8 and Microsoft with it | SemiAccurate  [ http://ur1.ca/g77px ]Dec 15 22:36
SosumiI said it beforeDec 15 22:36
Sosumiscrap MetroDec 15 22:36
Sosumiand the NSA :PDec 15 22:36
Sosumiand while at it, also scrap the mobile aspirationsDec 15 22:37
Sosumiand focus on making NT a great OS and on bringing the office tools to android, gnu/linux, etcDec 15 22:39
Sosumior they'll eventually go under, which at this point isn't bad eitherDec 15 22:39
Sosumione thing about surface tablets not selling is that major retailers are selling them at heavily discounted prices just to get rid of themDec 15 22:42
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/moldaviax/status/412355601176354817Dec 15 22:58
TechrightsBot-tr@moldaviax: @schestowitz I think jack seems to forget that a pc begins life as a pc not a windows pc :)Dec 15 22:58
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schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3416868Dec 16 00:32
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: weather report from norway...Dec 16 00:32
schestowitz__"Good on Norway!"Dec 16 00:32
schestowitz__"I don't like Norway weather."Dec 16 00:33
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3415810Dec 16 00:33
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Red Hat's CEO uses #facebook - what a disappointment. http://instagram.com/p/h899xOA_h6/# "4 minutes ago".. "THEISM"Dec 16 00:33
TechrightsBot-tr ( status 404 @ http://instagram.com/p/h899xOA_h6/# )Dec 16 00:33
schestowitz__"Nobody is perfect. Also, there should be a lot of sysadmins that are in Facebook too and expect to find Red Hat there."Dec 16 00:33
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3415819Dec 16 00:34
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: A lot of military & government depts around the world have already abandoned NSA Windows for security reasons. Expect more in years to come.Dec 16 00:34
schestowitz__"Nothing is quite as ridiculous as the Microsoft monopoly. Rumors about what Microsoft is going to do next are no more reliable than anything else Microsoft does. "Normandy" rumors are floating around on low wattage sites like The Verge and Engadget. The Microsoft press is only slightly more reliable than Windows itself. Microsoft's intrusion into Suse basically destroyed the distribution and had lasting harmful effects on all Dec 16 00:34
schestowitz__desktop gnu/linux."Dec 16 00:34
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/GatoPreto19/status/412379910536060928Dec 16 00:35
TechrightsBot-tr@GatoPreto19: @schestowitz The Official Story: How NY Times Covers Yemen Drone Strikes http://t.co/fT8jhXoHp8Dec 16 00:35
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.fair.org | The Official Story: How NY Times Covers Yemen Drone StrikesDec 16 00:35
Sosumieven if military and gov branches are dumping windowsDec 16 01:03
Sosumiwhich they should and probably have their own in house IT deptsDec 16 01:03
Sosumithat tailor their distros to their needsDec 16 01:04
Sosumicritical software used in, lets say, the defense industry, works only on windowsDec 16 01:04
Sosumispecially when it comes to CAD/CAM softwareDec 16 01:05
Sosumistuff like the Dassault suites and the autodesk suitesDec 16 01:06
Sosumionly siemens nx has a linux versionDec 16 01:06
Sosumialso didn't autodesk try to move away from opengl to directx?Dec 16 01:07
Sosumiand they also did that with mayaDec 16 01:09
Sosumithat is why I keep hearing that windows is much better for viewportDec 16 01:09
Sosumibut linux and osx are faster for editingDec 16 01:10
SosumiMicrosoft in one imageDec 16 01:24
Sosumihttp://1.bp.blogspot.com/_WVQlev6CT6o/TJzTQeCDYxI/AAAAAAAAAVY/5vUwb4Q2Zt8/s1600/C:%5Cfakepath%5Coctopus.jpgDec 16 01:24
Sosumiand just like poseidon did:Dec 16 01:25
Sosumihttp://www.cambridge2000.com/gallery/images/PC1718172e.jpgDec 16 01:25
Sosumiit must be eliminatedDec 16 01:25
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Sosumifor the lolsDec 16 01:39
Sosumihttps://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=DrowdOEOrwg#t=918Dec 16 01:39
TechrightsBot-trwww.youtube.com | Max Keiser Discusses QE & Rigged Global Markets - YouTube  [ http://ur1.ca/g7a1c ]Dec 16 01:39
Sosumiignore the title, it's just what Alex Jones is selling nowDec 16 01:40
SosumihilariousDec 16 01:40
Sosumiwhat is that? heavy water from unit 3 at fukushima daichi? snake oil? whalecum? piss?Dec 16 01:44
SosumiI wander how many dupes will for thatDec 16 01:45
Sosumi*fallDec 16 01:45
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schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3416959Dec 16 07:21
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: ![](http://img4.joyreactor.com/pics/post/gif-skate-accident-fat-people-989344.gif)Dec 16 07:21
schestowitz__"That just hurts to look at."Dec 16 07:21
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3417046Dec 16 07:21
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: You know who shot a 100lb Hellfire missile (overpriced and charged from taxpayers at $68k)? Our own Prince Harry... he shot it at people.Dec 16 07:21
schestowitz__""Our own Prince Harry" he is NOT my Prince Harry. However what an authoritarian nasty human being he is."Dec 16 07:21
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3416868Dec 16 07:29
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: weather report from norway...Dec 16 07:29
schestowitz__"norway is a pioneer in equal rights of men and women. as well as finland -> finland"Dec 16 07:29
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schestowitz__ https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3416037Dec 16 08:37
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Microsoft has been using GNU/Linux internally for hosting (in quite a few cases). INTERNALLY. Maybe it wants no back doors INSIDE company.Dec 16 08:37
schestowitz__"lol ironic"Dec 16 08:37
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MinceRgeekingsDec 16 09:22
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MinceRhttps://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/1474528_758965957465836_1496335381_n.jpgDec 16 10:10
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iophkhttp://torrentfreak.com/free-society-sharing-knowledge-and-culture-131215/Dec 16 10:23
TechrightsBot-trtorrentfreak.com | Our Free Society Stands Or Falls With Our Defense Of Sharing Knowledge And Culture | TorrentFreak  [ http://ur1.ca/g7ebj ]Dec 16 10:23
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iophk"The message is clear. Evangelism of FLOSS has gone as far as it can without getting retail shelf-space"Dec 16 10:58
iophkhttp://mrpogson.com/2013/12/15/the-fight-for-free-software-in-french-polynesia/Dec 16 10:58
TechrightsBot-trmrpogson.com | The FIght For Free Software In French Polynesia  |   Robert Pogson  [ http://ur1.ca/g7ehx ]Dec 16 10:58
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MinceRhttp://xkcd.com/1304/Dec 16 12:37
TechrightsBot-trxkcd.com | xkcd: Glass TrollingDec 16 12:37
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msb_There's now a fix for the youtube "VEVO" problem, where videos marked "VEVO" can't be downloaded.  VEVO is some huge copyright-pig corporation.Dec 16 13:09
MinceRdidn't DownloadHelper or Offliberty work?Dec 16 13:27
msb_Nope.  DH gives 0 bytes.Dec 16 13:29
MinceRicDec 16 13:30
msb_But this works, even on my old version of OpenSuse:  http://rg3.github.io/youtube-dl/index.htmlDec 16 13:31
TechrightsBot-trrg3.github.io | youtube-dl  [ http://ur1.ca/el7jy ]Dec 16 13:31
msb_It's a cli program with lots of options, but very easy to use.Dec 16 13:31
MinceRbookmarked.Dec 16 13:31
MinceRi used to use clive for a while, then youtube broke it and it stayed that way at least for a whileDec 16 13:31
msb_Videos that used to download fine with DH, are now marked VEVO and won't download with DH.  Same url and everything.Dec 16 13:33
msb_That article by Falkvinge in TF above is very good.  The censorship starts with music and movies, and then is rapidly used to stop political advocacy and organizing.Dec 16 13:35
msb_The psychopaths that want to rule the world (and almost do) know that people's most important weapon is communication.Dec 16 13:37
msb_It's the only way we can fight the brainwashing.Dec 16 13:37
iophkHe spotted early on what they are doing.Dec 16 13:41
msb_The corporate media contain almost nothing about what's really going on.Dec 16 13:41
iophkNo.  They are part of the problem.Dec 16 13:41
msb_They do the brainwashing.Dec 16 13:41
msb_If people hear the same info from multiple sources, they believe it.Dec 16 13:42
msb_So the corporate media broadcast the same lies on dozens of channels.Dec 16 13:42
msb_This is a most wonderful antifascist video:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0Yg9wjctRwDec 16 13:44
TechrightsBot-trwww.youtube.com | Brad Paisley - Welcome To The Future - YouTube  [ http://ur1.ca/g7fzu ]Dec 16 13:44
msb_And now it won't download normally because it's Dec 16 13:44
msb_VEVO"Dec 16 13:44
iophkor same disinfo from multiple sources ...Dec 16 13:46
msb_But youtube-dl gets it at 360p.  Dec 16 13:46
msb_exactlyDec 16 13:46
msb_"If you tell me three times then it's true" used to be a good algorithm, but it's not anymore.Dec 16 13:47
MinceR143443 < msb_> That article by Falkvinge in TF above is very good.  The censorship starts with music and movies, and then is rapidly used to stop Dec 16 13:48
MinceRit also starts with pornDec 16 13:48
msb_Yes.  As if someone's sexuality is anyone else's business.Dec 16 13:48
msb_But the anti-sexual Judeo-Christian-Islamic religion was one of the earliest means of brainwashing and controlling people.Dec 16 13:49
msb_And it's still at the center of our Dominator Culture.Dec 16 13:50
msb_Edward Bernays invented the techniques for mind-control from his knowledge of the research of his uncle Sigmund Freud  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_BernaysDec 16 13:54
TechrightsBot-tren.wikipedia.org | Edward Bernays - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia  [ http://ur1.ca/07noz ]Dec 16 13:54
msb_Bernays is a good candidate for most evil person who ever lived.Dec 16 13:54
MinceRhttp://asset-e.soup.io/asset/6341/9767_eba9.jpegDec 16 13:59
msb_youtube-dl is very easy to install.  Just put it in a directory in your account and run it from there.  Doesn't need root to install.  Has an excellent man page.  -F lists all the available formats from the specified url, and -f selects one.Dec 16 14:00
msb_Obomber is still murdering people by the dozens in weddings, and having journalists beaten, seriously injured, and withdrawing their US citizenship.  Dec 16 14:04
msb_He is a fascist monster in liberal clothing.Dec 16 14:05
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msb_Puts major banking executives in the govt.Dec 16 14:05
msb_Promotes a medical insuranc system created by insurance and drug corporations.Dec 16 14:06
msb_Signs laws allowing the govt to kidnap and imprison any American citizen indefinitely and without charges.Dec 16 14:07
msb_But he's Black, so people think he's a liberal.Dec 16 14:07
msb_Destroyed Libya and tried to destroy Syria, but people found out and revealed it on the Net.Dec 16 14:10
msb_Presumably mencoder will be able to marry the sound from the 360p video with the picture from the 480p no-sound video.Dec 16 14:12
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Sosumim$ is a heavy user of freebsd internallyDec 16 14:24
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Sosumithey, like crapple, don't rely on their own stuff to run their critical infrastructureDec 16 14:25
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SosumiI guess, for them, the only leaks allowed are the kind that you take at the nearest bathroomDec 16 14:32
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iophkhttp://www.pcworld.com/article/2079569/after-mixed-black-friday-sales-microsoft-s-holiday-hopes-could-hinge-on-its-stores.htmlDec 16 14:49
TechrightsBot-trwww.pcworld.com | After mixed Black Friday sales, Microsoft’s holiday hopes could hinge on its stores | PCWorld  [ http://ur1.ca/g7gfu ]Dec 16 14:49
iophkrelated to Falkvinge's article:Dec 16 14:50
iophkhttp://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2319277/bt-will-automatically-block-porn-for-new-customersDec 16 14:50
TechrightsBot-trwww.theinquirer.net | BT will automatically block porn for new customers- The Inquirer  [ http://ur1.ca/g7gg1 ]Dec 16 14:50
iophkhttp://torrentfreak.com/amazon-pulls-access-to-purchased-christmas-videos-during-christmas-131216/Dec 16 14:53
TechrightsBot-trtorrentfreak.com | Amazon Pulls Access to Purchased Christmas Videos During Christmas | TorrentFreak  [ http://ur1.ca/g7ggg ]Dec 16 14:53
iophk"Affected customers have seen their videos disappear from their online libraries, "Dec 16 15:01
MinceRheh heh. "purchased", they say.Dec 16 15:12
iophkThey've done it before, too, so it's an ongoing problem.  The first one was with "1984" ironically enoughDec 16 15:14
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MinceRindeedDec 16 15:15
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SosumiI said it beforeDec 16 15:17
Sosumiand so did many othersDec 16 15:17
Sosumiit's not purchased, but, temporarily leasedDec 16 15:17
Sosumiuntil the provider removes the contentDec 16 15:18
Sosumior goes underDec 16 15:18
msb_Wasn't that done to _1984_ or _Brave New World_ purchased through Amazon?Dec 16 15:18
MinceRthe former, iircDec 16 15:20
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msb_I wonder if there are secret good people who do this kind of thing for ironic publicity.Dec 16 15:28
iophkhttp://news.cnet.com/8301-13860_3-10289983-56.htmlDec 16 15:28
TechrightsBot-trnews.cnet.com | Amazon recalls (and embodies) Orwell's '1984' | Beyond Binary - CNET News  [ http://ur1.ca/g7gl9 ]Dec 16 15:28
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iophkhttp://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/18/technology/companies/18amazon.htmlDec 16 15:29
TechrightsBot-trmyaccount.nytimes.com | Log In - The New York Times  [ http://ur1.ca/g7gld ]Dec 16 15:29
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msb_Amazon even deleted the notes that a guy was taking on the book for a school assignment.Dec 16 15:43
iophkYeah, they took his notes. Dec 16 15:45
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msb_All this is motivating people to learn more about computers, networking, etc., which is all to the good.Dec 16 15:47
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Sosumi1984 back in 2009Dec 16 15:51
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Sosumias for the second one it was the "amazon ate my homework" thingDec 16 15:52
Sosumiand it didn't happen just to one dudeDec 16 15:52
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iophkhttp://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2319353/google-in-hot-water-over-removed-android-permissions-appDec 16 16:04
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TechrightsBot-trwww.theinquirer.net | Google in hot water over removed Android permissions app- The Inquirer  [ http://ur1.ca/g7gpz ]Dec 16 16:04
Sosumijust restore the functionalityDec 16 16:05
Sosumishould have been done immediately after that derpageDec 16 16:05
Sosumiunless it was actually intentionalDec 16 16:06
MinceRindeedDec 16 16:17
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iophkhttp://www.salon.com/2013/12/10/ayn_rand_loving_ceo_destroys_his_empire_partner/Dec 16 16:49
Sosumion the positive sideDec 16 17:09
Sosumisomeone now has a chance to find a honest job :)Dec 16 17:10
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MinceR> DRM made porn obsolete. I could fap all day to people fucked by DRMDec 16 18:36
MinceRhttp://www.badazzmofo.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/black-santa-POSTER-small.jpgDec 16 18:39
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SosumiDRM in one gifDec 16 19:32
Sosumihttps://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/7858379008/h90FD051C/Dec 16 19:32
MinceR:DDec 16 19:35
Sosumihttp://www.nbcnews.com/technology/nsa-can-listen-encrypted-phone-calls-theyre-not-only-ones-2D11744226?utm_medium=referral&utm_source=t.coDec 16 19:41
Sosumiarticle is dumb and missing that "special room" where the NSA puts their stuffDec 16 19:41
Sosumiand who says the NSA can say the portuguese SISDec 16 19:42
MinceRi knew that GSM was insecure, but what about UMTS?Dec 16 19:42
Sosumiat this point, I'd say insecure tooDec 16 19:45
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sebsebsebhi iophk MinceRDec 16 19:49
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iophkhiDec 16 19:51
sebsebsebiophk: looks ike I am going to be responsible for event merchandiceDec 16 19:51
sebsebsebor pretty muchDec 16 19:51
iophkmageia!Dec 16 19:51
sebsebsebiophk: heh heh Dec 16 19:51
sebsebsebiophk: need to sort my freebies examples bag out for tommorwDec 16 19:52
sebsebseb,but  yeah going to show them stufDec 16 19:52
sebsebsebkind of stuff that could haveDec 16 19:52
sebsebsebfor some deciosns on wht to have and such, b ut yeahDec 16 19:52
sebsebsebiophk: I guess either way can slip in some Mageia stuff  in anyway heh hehDec 16 19:52
sebsebsebif I really wantDec 16 19:52
iophkIt's a good distro...Dec 16 19:53
sebsebsebiophk: that's going to have a basic background for the next releaseDec 16 19:53
sebsebseb,but not to bad I thinkDec 16 19:53
sebsebsebfrom what I seen of proposalsDec 16 19:53
sebsebseb,but so not Fedora style for exampleDec 16 19:53
sebsebsebwell it's either one of those, or the old background it seemsDec 16 19:53
sebsebsebiophk: don't need to fancy for a default look really anyway I guessDec 16 19:54
sebsebseband people tend to change the backgorund anywayDec 16 19:54
iophkYeah it's one of the few things people still tend to change.Dec 16 19:55
sebsebsebiophk: some sort of blue probaly and flower type backgroundDec 16 19:55
sebsebseblooks okDec 16 19:55
sebsebsebI Mean the proposals I have seen, but yes very basicDec 16 19:55
sebsebsebbackgound stay for Grub  and log in screens usually thoughDec 16 19:56
sebsebseband control centre in this caseDec 16 19:56
sebsebsebiophk: so still my event then or well for merchandiceDec 16 19:58
sebsebsebit seems it will be thenDec 16 19:58
sebsebsebopenSUSE stuff that I won't be providingDec 16 19:58
iophkThat can get Mageia to people's homesDec 16 19:58
sebsebsebMint stuff that I won't be providingDec 16 19:58
sebsebsebUbuntu suff that I probably won't be providing, well maybe a little bit, but most of it nopeDec 16 19:58
sebsebsebother stuff well that I will be providing :dDec 16 19:59
sebsebsebiophk: yes seems there's a idea to have some cd's now to or something or for the choosen distro'sDec 16 19:59
sebsebsebiophk: no boycott Sony stickers for this evente htough I Think for exmapleDec 16 20:00
sebsebsebI think mos FSF stuff is out Dec 16 20:00
sebsebseband FSFE andsuchDec 16 20:00
sebsebsebiophk: I mean my idea is to have something about opensource/freesoftware poibly a fyer, but  in genral just to have stuff for distro's and end user software that is used such as FIrefox and Libre Office,  not for databases and what notDec 16 20:01
sebsebsebiophk: imagine giving a Boycott Sony sticker to a non techncalDec 16 20:02
sebsebsebthey won't understandDec 16 20:02
iophkprobably notDec 16 20:03
iophkFlyers might be good.Dec 16 20:03
sebsebsebiophk:  also  FSF has a nice  Hurd sticker, butDec 16 20:03
iophkPeople like to have something in hand.Dec 16 20:03
sebsebsebI think understanding what the penguin is will be confusisng noughDec 16 20:03
sebsebsebso I think Hurd sticker is out to thenDec 16 20:03
iophkMaybe one flier describing common apps.?Dec 16 20:04
sebsebsebfor exampleDec 16 20:04
sebsebsebiophk: oh they wil have a vidoe in the meeting roomDec 16 20:04
sebsebsebexplaining some stuff in videoDec 16 20:04
sebsebseb,but having  someflyers could be good toDec 16 20:04
sebsebsebFSF Europe has a nice on explaining aout free software and suchDec 16 20:04
sebsebsebthat kind of thing I am thinkingDec 16 20:04
iophkyes there were some ideas in your notes from the other month about what to put on  the videoDec 16 20:04
sebsebseboh they are just showing the desktops and how to openapps up etcDec 16 20:05
sebsebsebhe made a sample video ideaDec 16 20:05
sebsebsebmay just make own using a screencast someoneDec 16 20:05
sebsebsebiophk: Mageia isn't one of the distros now, and GNOME 3 isn't one of the interfaces now, so I don't care that much about those videos nowDec 16 20:05
sebsebseblet them make something for their  three choosen distros and interfaces I am thinkingDec 16 20:05
sebsebsebyep their not my  really, I wanted a fourth and you know what that isDec 16 20:06
sebsebsebI guess ended up taking it's spot as one of the three really, but odd not to have Ubuntu for that kind of event I thinkDec 16 20:06
sebsebsebI guess Ubuntu aboveDec 16 20:07
iophkMaybe Ubuntu in the swag?Dec 16 20:08
sebsebsebiophk: willl be interesting to see if not so technial users like Unityor notDec 16 20:08
iophkSome do, some don'tDec 16 20:08
sebsebsebnope it's been dieced theose three distros I told you aboutDec 16 20:08
sebsebseband that's that it seemsDec 16 20:08
sebsebsebiophk: having good stuff to igive out is importan I ThinkDec 16 20:09
sebsebsebpeople like picking up free stuff at eventsDec 16 20:09
sebsebseba lot doDec 16 20:09
iophkThat's why the DVDs / CDs are an ok choice.Dec 16 20:10
iophkAlso, as we talked about, they  can't be overwritten.Dec 16 20:10
sebsebsebwel seems there may be CD's and DVd's for distors toDec 16 20:10
sebsebseboffical onesDec 16 20:10
sebsebsebthere  was a mention of getting some Ubuntu CD's etc,  and something abobut covers for cd's possibly  making someDec 16 20:10
sebsebsebiophk: yep should be goodfor merchandice this I ThinkDec 16 20:12
sebsebsebfor freebiesDec 16 20:12
sebsebsebespeicaly if I am mainly in charge of that :)Dec 16 20:12
sebsebsebiophk: so do you think a flyer about what opensource/freesoftware isDec 16 20:13
sebsebsebis a good idea?Dec 16 20:13
sebsebsebexplained in a not so technical wayDec 16 20:13
sebsebsebFSFE has oneDec 16 20:13
sebsebsebthen it's also about joining FFSFE etc, so I was thinking something similar to that possiblyDec 16 20:13
iophkyes, cover some of the apps they will find usefulDec 16 20:14
sebsebsebalso  one about the LUGcould be goodDec 16 20:14
iophkfirefox, thunderbird, vlc, libreoffice, Dec 16 20:14
sebsebsebI got some some hwre for another LUGDec 16 20:14
sebsebsebiophk: well videos will cover osme of that I thinkDec 16 20:14
sebsebsebyep I got to go through stuff and sort  my bag out for tommorowDec 16 20:14
iophkyes, it would be good to have both flyers and video cover some of the same thingsDec 16 20:14
iophkyou will reach different peopleDec 16 20:14
sebsebsebiophk: I guess I split it up like this in the bag.  Ubuntu ustff in another bagDec 16 20:14
sebsebsebopen source in one bagDec 16 20:14
sebsebsebother stuf in another or something ike thatDec 16 20:15
sebsebsebiophk: wel there's going to b some old Linux magainze there for people to read as wel it seemsDec 16 20:15
sebsebseb,but flyers are still goodDec 16 20:15
iophk2 or 3 are enough.Dec 16 20:15
iophkOne for the LUG as you say.Dec 16 20:15
iophkOn for the apps.Dec 16 20:16
sebsebsebonefor Mageia mayb :dDec 16 20:16
iophkYep. :)Dec 16 20:16
sebsebsebcan havea  few flyers realy Dec 16 20:16
sebsebseb,but shoudn't over do itDec 16 20:16
iophkA small number is best.Dec 16 20:16
sebsebsebMagiea has a nice flyer :dDec 16 20:16
sebsebsebiophk: could wriete on t, contact  .... me Dec 16 20:17
sebsebsebif intrestedDec 16 20:17
sebsebseb:dDec 16 20:17
sebsebsebiophk: do I show them some of the Mageia tuff tomorow to I guess so breify :dDec 16 20:17
sebsebseba general showing of thingsDec 16 20:17
iophkI would think so.Dec 16 20:17
sebsebsebiophk: can put in fEDORA cd's een or somethingDec 16 20:18
sebsebsebifDec 16 20:18
sebsebsebwhateverDec 16 20:18
sebsebsebI mean they are nice toDec 16 20:18
sebsebsebor centos or yeah, yu know other distor'sDec 16 20:18
sebsebsebI'll bring a bag of general stuff, for dicussion etcDec 16 20:18
sebsebsebyep :0Dec 16 20:18
sebsebsebthat was meant to be a :)Dec 16 20:18
iophkthe USB sticks won't be effective.  If they put them in a Windows machine first, they get erased.Dec 16 20:19
sebsebsebI did mention that in a eaiDec 16 20:19
sebsebseb,but didn't get any reposne from what Iremember or as  suchDec 16 20:19
sebsebsebiophk: I gess may want to tell them not ot put in WIndows :dDec 16 20:19
sebsebsebor somethingDec 16 20:19
sebsebsebiophk: ,but hey it's not like it's my distro or interface being erasedif so :dDec 16 20:20
iophkThey won't listen.  Dec 16 20:20
sebsebsebright, but seems going to have dics as well now :)Dec 16 20:20
sebsebsebdiscsDec 16 20:20
iophkdiscs are the way to go.Dec 16 20:20
sebsebseb,but the discs wil just be freebieDec 16 20:20
sebsebsebsDec 16 20:20
sebsebsebthey wil still do this remaster stuffDec 16 20:21
iophkfreebie is fine, it's still a way to get the stoc.k distro to themDec 16 20:21
sebsebsebyep :)Dec 16 20:21
sebsebsebiophk: I'll shw them example of uBUNT U13.`10 cd'SDec 16 20:22
sebsebseband open suse even etc tommorwoDec 16 20:22
sebsebsebiophk: ,but smeone else was going to contact Ubuntu for stuff it seemsDec 16 20:22
sebsebsebhe may have alreadyDec 16 20:22
sebsebsebiophk: ,but since I got some of th wanted stuff already I  can showDec 16 20:22
sebsebseboh actually it's  13.04 I got, but  welll yeah example of what hte later c's look like ofical onesDec 16 20:23
sebsebsebiophk: I got uBUNTU ey rings and such here to, since I bought some stuff from Canonical, so may as well show that as wellDec 16 20:23
iophkHardware is ok.Dec 16 20:24
iophkThe logos persist.Dec 16 20:24
sebsebsebnot hardwareDec 16 20:24
iophkkeyringDec 16 20:24
sebsebseba key ring as in yep for keysDec 16 20:24
sebsebseb,but not hardwareDec 16 20:24
sebsebsebnot computer hardwareDec 16 20:24
sebsebsebiophk: Ubuntu and openSUSE have very nice stuff really, when it comes to this kind of htingDec 16 20:24
sebsebsebapparnatlly going to get some Mint stuff as wellDec 16 20:24
iophkexcept that the suse stuff is suseDec 16 20:25
sebsebsebheh heh well yeah but it still looks nice, a bit like how Mac  OS X or Apple hardware looks nice, but when well it's Apple,  a very propritary for profit money sucking companyDec 16 20:25
sebsebsebiophk: looking nice is what wil draw non technial people in thoughDec 16 20:26
sebsebsebespeically if it's got that commerial touch to things I think, like both openSUSE and Ubuntu haveDec 16 20:26
sebsebsebpeople generally trust companiesDec 16 20:27
sebsebsebyou seeDec 16 20:27
sebsebsebthose kind of people I meanDec 16 20:27
sebsebsebetcDec 16 20:27
sebsebsebiophk: many are consumers, they just buy stuff etc you knowDec 16 20:27
iophkUbuntu's looks polished even if it's not flexible.Dec 16 20:28
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Sosumihttp://www.macrumors.com/2013/12/16/tim-cook-and-other-tech-executive-to-meet-with-president-obama-again-to-discuss-nsa-surveillance-and-health-care-website/Dec 16 23:08
Sosumiso many bastards in one place...Dec 16 23:09
Sosumi- Tim Cook, CEO, AppleDec 16 23:09
Sosumi- Dick Costolo, CEO, TwitterDec 16 23:09
Sosumi- Chad Dickerson, CEO, EtsyDec 16 23:09
Sosumi- Reed Hastings, Co-Founder & CEO, NetflixDec 16 23:09
Sosumi- Drew Houston, Founder & CEO, DropboxDec 16 23:09
Sosumi- Marissa Mayer, President and CEO, Yahoo!Dec 16 23:09
Sosumi- Burke Norton, Chief Legal Officer, SalesforceDec 16 23:09
Sosumi- Mark Pincus, Founder, Chief Product Officer & Chairman, ZyngaDec 16 23:09
Sosumi- Shervin Pishevar, Co-Founder & Co-CEO, Sherpa GlobalDec 16 23:09
Sosumi- Brian Roberts, Chairman & CEO, ComcastDec 16 23:09
Sosumi- Erika Rottenberg, Vice President, General Counsel and Secretary, LinkedInDec 16 23:09
Sosumi- Sheryl Sandberg, COO, FacebookDec 16 23:09
Sosumi- Eric Schmidt, Executive Chairman, GoogleDec 16 23:09
Sosumi- Brad Smith, Executive Vice President and General Counsel, MicrosoftDec 16 23:09
Sosumi- Randall Stephenson, Chairman & CEO, AT&TDec 16 23:09
MinceRgnDec 16 23:23
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__martin__schestowitz: might be of interest; collection of ICT lobbying documents targeted towards EU Parliament et al.Dec 16 23:34
__martin__https://ameliaandersdotter.eu/uppkopplad-kontinentDec 16 23:34
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amarsh04http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/16/opinion/japans-dangerous-anachronism.html?smid=tw-share&_r=0Dec 17 08:16
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MinceRgeekingsDec 17 09:24
amarsh04hiDec 17 09:54
amarsh04http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/16/opinion/japans-dangerous-anachronism.html?smid=tw-share&_r=0Dec 17 09:54
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iophkamarsh04: scary attitude - “the affairs of government are distinct from the affairs of the people.”        Dec 17 10:07
amarsh04exactly, iophkDec 17 11:19
iophkhttp://www.pcworld.com/article/2080301/closing-the-door-on-windows-a-guide-to-changing-operating-systems.htmlDec 17 13:26
iophkstill claiming that M$ is vulnerable because of its market share rather than just plain bad designDec 17 13:28
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iophkeuphemism "parental controls" http://www.techweekeurope.co.uk/news/bt-parental-controls-network-level-134211Dec 17 13:58
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iophkMinceR: http://mrpogson.com/2013/12/17/the-latest-hungarian-revolution/Dec 17 14:18
MinceRi have little hope for further improvementDec 17 14:21
MinceRour m$ cult is pretty strong, it seemsDec 17 14:21
iophkThe list was all for Windows versions it looked like. Dec 17 14:21
iophkunder proposal  - "drivers would be expected to pay 10 euros a year  -- $13.80 at current exchange rates -- for the tracking device installed  in their cars."Dec 17 14:34
iophkhttp://www.alaskadispatch.com/article/20131216/finland-radical-road-tax-changes-proposedDec 17 14:34
iophkIt can be pointed out that current fuel taxes are already a per-kilometer tax on travel.Dec 17 14:35
iophkOllila is now on Shell's board, so I wonder how that ties in.Dec 17 14:35
MinceRwhat a great dealDec 17 14:36
MinceRyou get to pay for their spying on youDec 17 14:36
MinceRjust what this world needed desperately -- more spying.Dec 17 14:37
iophkTracking is probably the main goal, the other stuff being just dressing.Dec 17 14:38
MinceRpoor big brother is bored out of his skill, gotta give him more details of the lives of everybodyDec 17 14:38
MinceRs/kil/kul/Dec 17 14:38
MinceRyeah, being robbed is just extraDec 17 14:38
Sosuminorway spying on russia for the NSADec 17 14:53
SosumiI'm surprised, why no mention to swedenDec 17 14:54
Sosumihttp://t.co/ae1UnaCdUsDec 17 14:55
Sosumiuse this oneDec 17 14:55
Sosumiwww.youtube.com/watch?v=RBMFmeA13noDec 17 14:55
SosumiRevealed: Norway widely spies on Russia for NSA, new snowden leakDec 17 14:56
Sosumialso, I was expecting the new Mac "Pro" to be released todayDec 17 14:59
Sosumiso I could unload all my buttplug jokes on Phill Schiller's twitterDec 17 15:00
Sosumibut so far, disappointed :(Dec 17 15:00
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Sosumihttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/BbjnfNVCIAA_RIy.jpg:largeDec 17 15:23
MinceR:)Dec 17 15:25
iophkThis kind of thing does not help Google: http://www.techradar.com/news/world-of-tech/management/microsoft-loses-top-software-engineer-to-google-1208669Dec 17 15:37
MinceRindeedDec 17 15:40
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TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: The EU and Microsoft’s 20-year marriage  http://t.co/4o730lSQ2x #corruption #eu #antitrustDec 17 17:21
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TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: Judge Questions Legality of N.S.A. Phone Records http://t.co/cP58Kh452T #nsa #surveillanceDec 17 17:21
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TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: New indiegogo project to turn your Android device into a full Linux desktop computer http://t.co/Q2fzg8bpHw #android to #gnu #linuxDec 17 17:22
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TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: Hold onto your (red) hat: Fedora 20 is out http://t.co/SyIqV3qDJD #fedora #gnu #linux #redhatDec 17 17:22
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.infoworld.com | Hold onto your (red) hat: Fedora 20 is out | Linux - InfoWorldDec 17 17:22
iophk"The contract has been extended six times, in the total absence of  competing bidders, because no call for tenders went out before the deal  was signed."Dec 17 17:22
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/412992406402117632  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/412992902697336833  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/412994372222070784   https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/412994585401765889  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/412994761004703744Dec 17 17:24
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: Report accuses BT of supplying backdoors for #GCHQ and 3NSA http://t.co/fusour1roJ #bt can be sued, no?Dec 17 17:24
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TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: More #linux in #india http://t.co/TiZ7oFes2CDec 17 17:24
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schestowitz__https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/412999797218762752Dec 17 17:38
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: McCain https://t.co/ekhRLWcmAQDec 17 17:38
SosumiBT, the company Bruce Schneier works onDec 17 17:49
SosumiI heard he's leavingDec 17 17:49
puppywatchgreatDec 17 17:56
puppywatchtoom lateDec 17 17:56
Sosumi*atDec 17 18:05
Sosumiyep, he's leavingDec 17 18:05
Sosumiand probably going to be hired by the NSA itselfDec 17 18:06
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MinceRhttps://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1501701_645288608848284_1771453903_n.jpgDec 17 19:15
iophkMinceR: e-mail attachments are only when an intranert fails at filesharingDec 17 19:18
iophk*intranetDec 17 19:18
iophkhttp://www.mercurynews.com/business/ci_24741581/facebook-starting-show-video-commercials-that-play-automaticallyDec 17 19:21
TechrightsBot-trwww.mercurynews.com | Facebook starting to show video commercials that play automatically - San Jose Mercury News  [ http://ur1.ca/g7nyr ]Dec 17 19:21
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/413029484221444096 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/413029562562256896  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/413029583865126912  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/413029626844168192Dec 17 19:44
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: "On Merkel" https://t.co/HBkBXitPTpDec 17 19:44
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: Shooting the Coffin https://t.co/s4oJ7bOoZDDec 17 19:44
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: "Obama administration’s lies about Syrian government responsibility for an August 21 chemical shelling" http://t.co/X2TSsSfbMBDec 17 19:44
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.wsws.org | UN Syrian chemical weapons report exposes Washington’s lies - World Socialist Web SiteDec 17 19:44
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: Fixing broken #seagate hard drives can wait another day, ended up going out for the birthday http://t.co/vu0t5ceNVZDec 17 19:44
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/413029626844168192  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/413031952896507904Dec 17 19:46
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: Who's paying who? Does Seagate pay #Microsoft 'license' for NTFS or does Microsoft bribe #seagate to make HDDs Microsoft patents-saddled?Dec 17 19:46
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/413032355171807232Dec 17 19:48
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: #seagate hard drives are too fragile and since they come w/ #microsoft preinstalled,this would probably void waranty https://t.co/Ma8vOqiGXjDec 17 19:48
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/413032540380078080Dec 17 19:48
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: In a world where the European Commission is not in bed with #microsoft there would be probes into NTFS/FAT patents bundling in hardware.Dec 17 19:48
MinceRa "seagate" hard drive might also well be a maxtorDec 17 19:48
MinceR(in other words, crap)Dec 17 19:48
schestowitzyesDec 17 19:50
schestowitzI wrote about that yesterdayDec 17 19:50
schestowitzThey took over the competitionDec 17 19:50
schestowitzSo now I can onyl choose between DRM+restrictions crap (WD) and quality/MS crapDec 17 19:50
schestowitzThere are hardly any contenders except those tooDec 17 19:50
schestowitzYesterday I saw a Toshiba (too small) and LaCie or something like thatDec 17 19:51
schestowitzExpensive and I don't think large enoughDec 17 19:51
schestowitzMaplin would not accept a warrantee after over a yearDec 17 19:51
schestowitzSeagate claims 2 years waranteeDec 17 19:51
schestowitzBut I bet they'll rant about it being ex4Dec 17 19:51
schestowitzand then say it voids the waranteeDec 17 19:51
schestowitz*yDec 17 19:51
schestowitzwarranty Dec 17 19:52
SosumipfffffffDec 17 19:52
Sosumibest optionDec 17 19:52
schestowitzI am trying all sorts of things ATMDec 17 19:52
schestowitzbought a second 3 TB driveDec 17 19:52
Sosumibuy a box and the HDD separateDec 17 19:52
Sosumithat's how I doDec 17 19:53
Sosumiso I don't have swallow the crappy HDD manufacturers put on those boxesDec 17 19:53
schestowitzformatted it, now copying over what's not damaged, hoping to then reformat the old  drive and if it's really damaged, then format as MS and ship back to them (as per RMA) for replacmentDec 17 19:53
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MinceRwd has drm now?Dec 17 19:53
schestowitzBTW, the internal HDDs I've had in recent years aren't tooDec 17 19:53
MinceRalso, what about hitachi?Dec 17 19:53
schestowitzbadDec 17 19:53
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schestowitzThe old laptop had its (Compaq BTW) drive die after a YEAR!! I replaced with Hitachi (IBM) and that lasted a good while... I think it was the last I needed, but in recent years it was impossible to install anything on... too much when it comes to bad sectors it seems...Dec 17 19:54
Sosumiunless it's those "cloud" enabled HDDs and/or in need of special software to setup, there's no drmDec 17 19:55
schestowitzAfter  years all HDDs seem to be going kaput or getting there rapidlyDec 17 19:55
schestowitzOhDec 17 19:55
schestowitzBTW!Dec 17 19:55
Sosumias for reliability, WD velociraptors so far have beaten everythingDec 17 19:55
schestowitzWestern Digital now has a new drive they stock at stores called "My Cloud". Who 'stole' whose name? #mycloudDec 17 19:55
MinceR:)Dec 17 19:56
MinceRwell, i have my own cloud :>Dec 17 19:56
Sosumithe oldest models I still have running are from 2008Dec 17 19:56
Sosumijust stay away from pre-packeaged HDDsDec 17 19:58
Sosumidiskless enclosures are the way to goDec 17 19:58
MinceRwhy?Dec 17 19:58
MinceRin the case of a pre-packaged hdd, if it breaks, it's easy to know whose warranty is supposed to cover itDec 17 19:58
Sosumino need for special software (like WD does) to configureDec 17 19:58
MinceRbut with an enclosure+hdd setup, everyone can blame the otherDec 17 19:58
Sosumiyou know what HDD is insideDec 17 19:58
MinceRmine so far just work as plain usb (2.0 or 3.0) mass storage devicesDec 17 19:59
MinceRthough i suspect this does block access to SMARTDec 17 19:59
SosumiI don't like to play the blame game ;)Dec 17 20:00
Sosumiplus, enterprise grade HDDs tend to come with 5 to 7 years warrantyDec 17 20:00
Sosumialso you can do your own boxDec 17 20:04
Sosumimod a pc case + psuDec 17 20:04
Sosumiand externalise the sata ports on the HDDs with a controllerDec 17 20:05
Sosumilet me find picts from a guy who did thatDec 17 20:06
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MinceR:)Dec 17 20:13
MinceRi don't think i ever had enterprise grade HDDsDec 17 20:13
Sosumihttp://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1303010Dec 17 20:18
TechrightsBot-trforums.macrumors.com | Cheaper, Better, Higher Quality eSATA Enclosure!-Use a PC case! - MacRumors Forums  [ http://ur1.ca/g7opl ]Dec 17 20:18
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/413040417098440704Dec 17 20:19
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: This new video makes me wonder if #microsoft paid #CollegeHumor http://t.co/pJoBFy5ea5 MS keeps worse information, has back doors to PCsDec 17 20:19
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.youtube.com | Google is Going to Blackmail You - YouTubeDec 17 20:19
SosumiI liked, too bad that it work on the buttplug pro since there is no special "thundercat" to esata adapterDec 17 20:21
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/413040976526323712Dec 17 20:21
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: Overlay of laser https://t.co/yn7MdniZl5Dec 17 20:21
*amarsh04 still has a working HDD from 1998Dec 17 20:25
amarsh04[0:0:6:0]    disk    IBM      DCAS-34330W      S65A  /dev/sdaDec 17 20:26
Sosumiwe need with one theseDec 17 20:30
Sosumihttp://ncsctechnologychair.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/ibm5mb.jpgDec 17 20:30
Sosumistill functionalDec 17 20:30
Sosumiand turn it into a totally hipster, portable/backpack, music player that plays the same track on a loopDec 17 20:35
Sosumithat'd be legendaryDec 17 20:35
MinceRi think that would just root you to the spot if you tried to wear it as a backpack :>Dec 17 20:40
MinceRlike an anchorDec 17 20:40
SosumiI liftDec 17 20:40
Sosumiso I don't think that'd be a problemDec 17 20:40
MinceRi think it would be :>Dec 17 20:41
MinceRthough you could put wheels under it...Dec 17 20:41
Sosuminah, I'd just yell this is sparta!Dec 17 20:42
MinceRi think it's a RAMACDec 17 20:42
Sosumi5MB I thinkDec 17 20:42
MinceR"The RAMAC unit weighed over a ton, had to be moved around with forklifts, and was delivered via large cargo airplanes."Dec 17 20:42
MinceRso it's not just a strength issue, it's also a center of mass issueDec 17 20:42
MinceR:>Dec 17 20:42
SosumiI was joking, when I said that :)Dec 17 20:43
MinceRi suspected soDec 17 20:43
Sosumihttp://hexus.net/tech/news/graphics/62093-amd-denies-sending-golden-sample-r290-cards-reviewers/Dec 17 20:46
TechrightsBot-trhexus.net | AMD denies sending ‘golden sample’ R290 cards to reviewers - Graphics - News - HEXUS.net  [ http://ur1.ca/g7ozn ]Dec 17 20:46
Sosumiyet, retail cards perform worse than the review unitsDec 17 20:46
SosumiI think it may have been an issue with binningsDec 17 20:48
Sosumi*mightDec 17 20:48
Sosumibut who knows :)Dec 17 20:49
iophkmore entryismDec 17 20:52
iophkhttp://www.reuters.com/article/2013/12/17/usa-healthcare-delbene-idUSL2N0J014Z20131217Dec 17 20:52
TechrightsBot-trwww.reuters.com | Kurt DelBene, retired Microsoft exec, to oversee Obamacare website overhaul | Reuters  [ http://ur1.ca/g7p1m ]Dec 17 20:52
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2013/07/15/office-headless/Dec 17 21:01
TechrightsBot-trtechrights.org | President of the Microsoft Office Division (Kurt DelBene) Leaves the Company | Techrights  [ http://ur1.ca/g7p54 ]Dec 17 21:01
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2010/09/05/former-softies-become-politicians/Dec 17 21:01
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2011/01/04/suzan-delbene-appointment/Dec 17 21:01
TechrightsBot-trtechrights.org | Microsoft’s Veteran Suzan DelBene ‘Part of the Problem’ in D.C. | Techrights  [ http://ur1.ca/1i3og ]Dec 17 21:01
TechrightsBot-trtechrights.org | Yet More Microsoft Staff (Now Suzan DelBene) Enters Government to Assist Microsoft’s Looting of the System | Techrights  [ http://ur1.ca/2qqmt ]Dec 17 21:02
schestowitz!google suzan delbene kurtDec 17 21:02
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Suzan DelBene - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suzan_DelBeneDec 17 21:02
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - About | Suzan DelBene for Congress | http://www.delbeneforcongress.com/index.php/aboutDec 17 21:02
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Microsoft Notebook: Time as football ref serves marketing exec well ... | http://www.seattlepi.com/business/article/Microsoft-Notebook-Time-as-football-ref-serves-1169008.phpDec 17 21:02
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Former Microsoft exec Kurt DelBene to tackle Obamacare website fix ... | http://blogs.seattletimes.com/politicsnorthwest/2013/12/17/former-microsoft-office-chief-kurt-delbene-tapped-for-obamacare-site-fix/Dec 17 21:02
schestowitzsee [4]Dec 17 21:03
schestowitz"Spouse(s)Kurt"Dec 17 21:03
schestowitzhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suzan_DelBeneDec 17 21:03
TechrightsBot-tren.wikipedia.org | Suzan DelBene - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia  [ http://ur1.ca/g7p5o ]Dec 17 21:03
iophk"Suzan DelBene, a freshman Democrat from Medina and a former Microsoft executive herself."Dec 17 21:03
iophkSomeone with influence obviously wants healthcare.gov to fail badly...Dec 17 21:12
MinceRcould it be the GOP? :>Dec 17 21:14
MinceR(more likely one of the companies that has bought them for more than they've bought the democrats for...)Dec 17 21:15
Sosumiobamacare is trashDec 17 21:22
Sosumifrom what I heardDec 17 21:22
Sosumibut having those two guys thereDec 17 21:22
Sosumiit'll make things only worseDec 17 21:22
schestowitziophk: am writing about itDec 17 21:23
schestowitzseems urgent enough an issue...Dec 17 21:23
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MinceRsomeone is claiming it even covers some sort of implanted RFID chipDec 17 21:36
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/SemiAccurate/status/413060868927004672Dec 17 21:49
TechrightsBot-tr@SemiAccurate: @schestowitz thank you for your very kind and useful reply :DDec 17 21:49
schestowitzCharlie is a good writer; and if you (as a company) try to game him,  he speaks out :-)Dec 17 21:50
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/413063185449893889Dec 17 21:51
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: ‘Retired’ Microsoft Staff and the Takeover of the Government  http://t.co/9oPkIssjr8 #microsoft #eu #obamacare #obamaDec 17 21:51
TechrightsBot-tr-> techrights.org | ‘Retired’ Microsoft Staff and the Takeover of the Government | TechrightsDec 17 21:51
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/413064547202007040 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/413065496154869760Dec 17 22:01
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: #TSA strategy is a disaster http://t.co/TtFNAIiTC3Dec 17 22:01
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.dailymail.co.uk | Strip search: Outraged India backs retaliation against US after treatment of its country's diplomat  | Mail OnlineDec 17 22:01
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: #linux is massive now (GNU also) http://t.co/vsdD0MbIaFDec 17 22:02
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.linux.com | 2013: The Year of Linux on the...Everything | Linux.comDec 17 22:02
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/413066759177240576Dec 17 22:04
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: Any workaround for slow data transfers from one HDD to another (over 2 USB3 ports/cables)? Surely can do better than 400MB/hour via PC.Dec 17 22:04
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/413072856520876032Dec 17 22:28
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: Spending one's birthday trying to salvage data which seems impossible restore due to #seagate *****ness - worst day ever.Dec 17 22:28
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/413074986518470656Dec 17 22:37
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: Is South #Korea moving to #Ubuntu from #Windows XP? http://t.co/pSQKBhiw7z wow, looks legit http://t.co/2Mu4RNprouDec 17 22:37
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.muktware.com | Is South Korea moving to Ubuntu from Windows XP? | MuktwareDec 17 22:37
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.businesskorea.co.kr | Alternative to Windows XP: Ubuntu Emerges as Free Alternative Operating System to Windows | BusinessKoreaDec 17 22:37
MinceRgnDec 17 23:09
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/agente_smithe/status/413088355749203968Dec 17 23:46
TechrightsBot-tr@agente_smithe: @schestowitz South Korea ? Hardly. North Korea, in the other hand, could do it.Dec 17 23:46
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/413092410441596928Dec 17 23:46
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: "System update downloaded. Touch to install." Google has modified my system remotely and silently for second time in 3 weeks. Can't refuse.Dec 17 23:46
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/413093110672285697Dec 17 23:49
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: Not just Google moves away from x86 http://t.co/GxhSPVUhQcDec 17 23:49
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.muktware.com | Mainstream ARM support might arrive with Ubuntu 14.04 | MuktwareDec 17 23:49
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DaemonFChttp://gawker.com/woman-learns-invaluable-lesson-about-not-picking-fights-1484881340Dec 18 00:42
TechrightsBot-trgawker.com | Woman Learns Invaluable Lesson About Not Picking Fights with Stray Cats  [ http://ur1.ca/g7qlv ]Dec 18 00:42
DaemonFCMinceR should like this.Dec 18 00:42
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DaemonFCshared a link via Democratic Governors Association (DGA).Dec 18 01:00
DaemonFC9 seconds agoDec 18 01:00
DaemonFChttp://www.politico.com/story/2013/12/internal-poll-rick-scott-charlie-crist-101236.htmlDec 18 01:00
TechrightsBot-trwww.politico.com | Internal Rick Scott poll: Charlie Crist up in Florida - James Hohmann - POLITICO.com  [ http://ur1.ca/g7qss ]Dec 18 01:00
DaemonFCOne of the reasons that the Republican governors are going to have a hard time winning their next election is because the millions of working poor that they screwed out of Medicaid coverage are finally realizing that they have indeed been screwed by their Republican governor.Dec 18 01:00
DaemonFCshared a link.Dec 18 01:01
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DaemonFChttp://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/12/17/1263386/-Low-wage-food-service-workers-get-a-union-at-two-Smithsonian-museumsDec 18 01:01
TechrightsBot-trwww.dailykos.com | Daily Kos: Low-wage food service workers get a union at two Smithsonian museums  [ http://ur1.ca/g7qt2 ]Dec 18 01:01
DaemonFCIt's true that President Obama *could* sign an executive order requiring good pay and benefits for the minimum wage employees of federal contractors, but he won't because he's basically a very right-wing corporate Democrat, who would have been called a Republican 30-40 years ago. (If he'd also been white.)Dec 18 01:01
DaemonFCHe enjoys putting deficit reduction on the backs of the poor for the same reason that corporate CEOs love making $9,600 an hour on the backs of the poor.Dec 18 01:01
DaemonFCIt's easy to do, and the victims have little with which to fight back.Dec 18 01:01
DaemonFCshared a link.Dec 18 01:02
DaemonFC15 minutes agoDec 18 01:02
DaemonFChttp://gawker.com/the-world-finally-ends-for-infamous-doomsday-preacher-h-1485018370Dec 18 01:02
TechrightsBot-trgawker.com | The World Finally Ends for Infamous Doomsday Preacher Harold Camping  [ http://ur1.ca/g7qtk ]Dec 18 01:02
DaemonFCThere have been many idiots that proclaim that a particular day will be doomsday.Dec 18 01:02
DaemonFCPat Robertson has done it several times, and still has people who listen to him and watch the 700 club. He's managed to pick specific dates, blame it on gay people and other favorite targets of hate of the Christian Right, and then walk it back every single time it didn't happen. Each time it doesn't happen, all he has to do is say "God spoke to me and said he changed his mind". That's a neat trick.Dec 18 01:02
DaemonFCIt's like Obi Wan Kenobi said in Star Wars."Who is more foolish? The fool, or the fool who follows him?".Dec 18 01:02
DaemonFCshared a link.Dec 18 01:03
DaemonFC4 hours agoDec 18 01:03
DaemonFChttp://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/12/federal-judge-finds-nsa-spying-unconstitutional/Dec 18 01:03
TechrightsBot-trarstechnica.com | Updated: Federal judge finds NSA phone spying likely unconstitutional | Ars Technica  [ http://ur1.ca/g7quh ]Dec 18 01:03
DaemonFCThis is good, but I doubt it will make them stop. They have no respect for the law, so why would they respect a court of law?Dec 18 01:03
DaemonFCshared George Takei's photo.Dec 18 01:05
DaemonFC9 hours agoDec 18 01:05
DaemonFChttps://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/p480x480/1527063_824170067612448_1291304141_n.jpgDec 18 01:05
DaemonFCI don't have that problem. Gnu/Linux doesn't have IE, just the browsers that are worth using. And they are all optional. :)Dec 18 01:05
DaemonFCYesterdayDec 18 01:06
DaemonFCI'm tired of watching rich people buy their way out of trouble. Instead of allowing the dad of the teenager that drove drunk and killed four people to pay $500,000 a year to send him to "rehab", they need to send him to one of those for-profit prisons where they feed everyone gruel and make them work for 25 cents an hour, and then have his dad spend $500,000 a year to compensate the survivors of the wreck he caused, and the families of the Dec 18 01:06
DaemonFCpeople he killed, for the rest of their lives. If his parents leave anything behind after they die of old age, it should be put into a trust to keep that fund going.Dec 18 01:06
DaemonFCThey created the monster. They need to have some consequences too. But, since they're rich, nothing ever gets done to them. That teenager will never learn right from wrong, and when he's out of rehab, he'll just go on doing whatever he wants and paying a small (for him) fine.Dec 18 01:06
DaemonFC2 seconds agoDec 18 01:09
DaemonFCTed Nugent, the hero of the far right, said that to get out of the Vietnam Draft, he purposely crapped his pants and then walked into the recruitment office as a "walking talking crusted pile of poop".Dec 18 01:09
DaemonFCSome things don't change.Dec 18 01:09
Sosumihttp://www.wired.com/business/2013/12/facebook-autoplaying-video-ads/Dec 18 01:21
TechrightsBot-trwww.wired.com | Facebook Forces Video Ads on You Because Marketers Told It To | Wired Business | Wired.com  [ http://ur1.ca/g7r2z ]Dec 18 01:21
SosumiNOOOOOOO!Dec 18 01:21
SosumiFacebook forces adds on users because it can!Dec 18 01:21
Sosumijust like google and video adds interrupting you after ~5 to 7 secs in a videoDec 18 01:23
Sosumibecause they can get away with itDec 18 01:24
DaemonFCOne of the things that scares Republicans about the Affordable Care Act is that it asks people if they want to register to vote.Dec 18 01:30
DaemonFCThe people shopping for health insurance, who are low income and (a) qualify for subsidies for private insurance or (b) qualify for Medicaid are exactly the type of people that the Republicans don't want voting. The working poor. The people who are being beaten into the ground by right wing politicians every time they go to work and clock in and make $7-8 an hour.Dec 18 01:30
DaemonFCLike · · Share · 2 seconds agoDec 18 01:30
DaemonFCIf the Democrats are smart, they'll keep pushing for a minimum wage increase to $10-11 an hour. It's not just good policy, it will get the attention of people who are being exploited, and want the exploitation to stop.Dec 18 01:32
DaemonFCWorking for less than $10 an hour is basically slave labor. You won't get a good apartment and you'll probably need food stamps.Dec 18 01:33
DaemonFCSo, that's where the slumlords and the other corporate subsidy (taxpayers propping up the low wage structure) come in.Dec 18 01:34
DaemonFCThere wouldn't be four people trying to get Section 8 housing for each person that it is capable of serving if the minimum wage was raised to $10-11 an hour.Dec 18 01:34
DaemonFCshared a link.Dec 18 01:38
DaemonFCa few seconds agoDec 18 01:39
DaemonFChttp://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/12/17/1263409/-Pat-Robertson-really-really-likes-Vladimir-PutinDec 18 01:39
TechrightsBot-trwww.dailykos.com | Daily Kos: Pat Buchanan really, really likes Vladimir Putin  [ http://ur1.ca/g7rac ]Dec 18 01:39
DaemonFCThe Christian Right are siding with the former Soviet KGB agent that now presides over Russia, because they both hate gay people.Dec 18 01:39
DaemonFC2 seconds agoDec 18 01:48
DaemonFCOne of the things that will certainly happen when you tell people that the minimum wage is too low, is that they will defend the low wage, because their employer pays them $1-2 an hour more, and they're worried that they will be "less better off" than the people who were actually making minimum wage. There's a simple explanation for that. People would rather see the people around them suffering more than they are, than see those people get a Dec 18 01:48
DaemonFChand up.Dec 18 01:48
DaemonFCWhat these people don't see is that when the wage floor is so low, that gives employers cover to pay $8-9 an hour and claim that they "don't pay minimum wage". Walmart does this. They don't pay minimum wage, but you can't live like that.Dec 18 01:48
DaemonFCWhen I worked at my first job, in 2002, right after getting my GED, I made $8.54 an hour, or $11.06 an hour in 2013 dollars. The factory jobs that you see in Huntington now tend to start out at $9 an hour, or $6.95 in 2002 dollars.Dec 18 01:48
DaemonFCWhat people don't see is that wages are actually rapidly moving backwards, due to inflation, a stagnant minimum wage, and "free trade".Dec 18 01:48
DaemonFCshared a link via Daily Kos.Dec 18 02:20
DaemonFC7 seconds agoDec 18 02:21
DaemonFChttp://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/12/17/1263427/-Sen-Warren-and-6-others-introduce-bill-barring-employers-from-rejecting-job-seekers-for-bad-credit?detail=facebookDec 18 02:21
TechrightsBot-trwww.dailykos.com | Daily Kos: Sen. Warren and 6 others introduce bill barring employers from rejecting job seekers for bad credit  [ http://ur1.ca/g7ruf ]Dec 18 02:21
DaemonFCI think it's disgusting that a minimum wage job offer from Walmart gives them the right to make you pee in a cup, submit to a credit check, and hand over your Facebook username and password.Dec 18 02:21
DaemonFCAll of this should be against the law.Dec 18 02:21
DaemonFC shared a link.Dec 18 02:31
DaemonFC2 seconds agoDec 18 02:31
DaemonFChttp://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2013/dec/14/toxic-ewaste-illegal-dumping-developing-countriesDec 18 02:31
TechrightsBot-trwww.theguardian.com | Toxic 'e-waste' dumped in poor nations, says United Nations | Global development | The Observer  [ http://ur1.ca/g7ryf ]Dec 18 02:31
DaemonFCMost of the iThings that crApple sells to "consumers" this Christmas will end up in the trash in less than two years.Dec 18 02:31
DaemonFCMany people end up buying the "current" iThing halfway into its product lifecycle, for full price of course, only to discover one year later, that it can't run the latest software.Dec 18 02:31
DaemonFCOn the other hand, most current Android apps only need Android version 2.2 or 2.3.Dec 18 02:31
Sosumihttp://yro.slashdot.org/story/13/12/17/2346222/swedish-man-fined-650000-for-sharing-1-movie-charged-extra-for-low-quality?utm_source=slashdot&utm_medium=twitterDec 18 02:31
TechrightsBot-tryro.slashdot.org | Swedish Man Fined $650,000 For Sharing 1 Movie, Charged Extra For Low Quality - Slashdot  [ http://ur1.ca/g7ryl ]Dec 18 02:31
Sosumi:)Dec 18 02:31
DaemonFCSo, if people chose Android instead of Apple, the amount of e-waste entering landfills would be cut significantly.Dec 18 02:33
Sosumitrue thatDec 18 02:33
Sosumijust look at their new mac proDec 18 02:33
Sosumican't even upgrade the gpuDec 18 02:33
DaemonFCThe crApple e-waste problem is an even bigger problem than the fact that crApple iThings don't respect your freedom.Dec 18 02:34
Sosumimachines that would otherwise have a longer lifespam, due to the gpu upgradesDec 18 02:34
Sosumiwill now ladt at large 3 yearsDec 18 02:34
Sosumi*lastDec 18 02:34
prurigronaw, they'll last forever-- just throw linux on em :)Dec 18 02:34
sebsebsebprurigro: openSUSE LinuxDec 18 02:35
sebsebsebor UbuntuDec 18 02:35
sebsebsebyeah Dec 18 02:35
sebsebsebheh hehDec 18 02:35
Sosumino, I meant in the sense of keeping harware up to dateDec 18 02:35
prurigrosebsebseb: ewwDec 18 02:35
prurigro:)Dec 18 02:35
sebsebsebprurigro: how about some Linux Mint, to try and get rid of your eww taste?Dec 18 02:36
prurigrosebsebseb: might as well just elementary it up while you're at itDec 18 02:36
prurigroSosumi: I replaced my 8 year old computer's GPU a month ago when the old one finally burnt outDec 18 02:36
prurigroseems about the sameDec 18 02:36
Sosumiyou know that you can use multiple gpus for compute, right?Dec 18 02:37
Sosumithat's the whole point of agressively keeping up with upgradesDec 18 02:38
prurigronot mine, but I'm aware this is possible- not sure what that would imply?Dec 18 02:38
Sosumibecause with time your code also increases in complexityDec 18 02:38
prurigromy 8 year old gpu was running the latest 3d desktops and 1080p video without breaking a sweatDec 18 02:39
prurigrotrying to mine bitcoin with it was another story... but hey :)Dec 18 02:39
prurigronvidia cards aren't the best for that anywayDec 18 02:40
prurigrowell, nowdays you need an ASIC to do anything worthwhileDec 18 02:40
prurigrobut this was a year agoDec 18 02:41
SosumiI was just alluring to offloading of tasks onto the gpu with programs like mathematica or matlabDec 18 02:42
Sosumior your own tools/programsDec 18 02:43
prurigrohm, does osx let you do that?Dec 18 02:43
SosumiyepDec 18 02:44
DaemonFCI can't see the logic in paying $600 for a computer that won't be fully usable in a year, and won't even be supported in two.Dec 18 02:44
DaemonFCBut, people do stupid things.Dec 18 02:44
Sosumi600€?Dec 18 02:45
SosumiI wishDec 18 02:45
prurigrolol yeah, that's like the bottom of a mac miniDec 18 02:45
Sosumimore like 6000€Dec 18 02:45
prurigroermDec 18 02:45
Sosumimac mine is trashDec 18 02:45
*sebsebseb thinks he lost that Ubuntu keyring and maybe some other stuff to, since was showing some stuff at this meeting earlierDec 18 02:45
prurigroI haven't seen as low as $600, haven't seen as high as $6000 either thoDec 18 02:45
Sosumithat's because you've never looked at their workstationsDec 18 02:46
Sosumithe ones that used to come with dual xeon and had expansion slotsDec 18 02:46
Sosumifor example my fully maxed 2009 mac pro costed me 5500€ in 2009Dec 18 02:47
Sosumiand that's €, not $Dec 18 02:47
prurigroI'll admit, I don't spend much time in mac stores lolDec 18 02:48
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sebsebsebprurigro: last time I was in oneDec 18 02:48
sebsebsebprurigro: with two pepleDec 18 02:48
Sosumibut it ended up being cheaper than a similar HP Z workstationDec 18 02:48
sebsebsebfirst time in one as welDec 18 02:48
Sosumibecause of the education discountDec 18 02:48
sebsebsebprurigro: anyway  there  I was andDec 18 02:48
sebsebsebprurigro: I saw why I didn't just buy Mac etcDec 18 02:48
sebsebsebprurigro: the ignorant consumers looking at Micrsooft Offfice on Mac and things like that uhDec 18 02:49
sebsebseband the bling draiwng people in Dec 18 02:49
sebsebseband yeahDec 18 02:49
prurigrololDec 18 02:49
prurigrodon't forget third party items at like 5 times the costDec 18 02:49
Sosumilike?Dec 18 02:50
sebsebsebwhat for Mac?Dec 18 02:50
prurigrolike portable hddsDec 18 02:50
prurigrofor their ssd-based laptopsDec 18 02:50
Sosumionly the thunderbolt onesDec 18 02:51
prurigroI helped the head of my dept pick out a laptop for his daughter, last time I was in oneDec 18 02:51
prurigroit was some 3rd partyDec 18 02:51
prurigroI found the same one at one of the good computer shops in town for literally half the priceDec 18 02:51
prurigrobut "we were already there"Dec 18 02:51
prurigroI suppose that's as much a ploy as anything else-- you never find an apple store next to a real computer placeDec 18 02:52
prurigroman, he got a macbook air tooDec 18 02:53
prurigroand like, I have the zenbook prime, which is basically the same size and weight as the air, and it was $200 cheaperDec 18 02:53
prurigroand everything in my laptop is betterDec 18 02:53
prurigroespecially the display though- man did mine look better sitting next to thatDec 18 02:54
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DaemonFCshared a link.Dec 18 03:06
DaemonFCa few seconds agoDec 18 03:06
DaemonFChttp://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/dec/12/sexting-victoria-makes-it-an-offenceDec 18 03:06
TechrightsBot-trwww.theguardian.com | Sexting: Victoria makes it an offence to send explicit images without consent | World news | theguardian.com  [ http://ur1.ca/g7s9p ]Dec 18 03:06
DaemonFCIt doesn't make any sense to punish the recipient of a sext. You have no control over the picture files that other people send to your mobile phone.Dec 18 03:06
DaemonFCThese laws basically say that anyone can put any file onto your computer, and then the government can punish you for having that file.Dec 18 03:06
DaemonFCAlarmingly, most US states and the federal government have laws like this.Dec 18 03:06
DaemonFCshared a link.Dec 18 06:07
DaemonFC2 seconds agoDec 18 06:07
DaemonFCUsing a vaccination program as a front to search for Bin Laden has done irreparable harm to vaccination programs. If you don't care about the people dying of these diseases in other countries, just remember that things that have been defeated in the United States have a way of coming back.Dec 18 06:07
DaemonFCA couple of years ago, a group of bible thumpers went to a third world country where people are starving, not to bring them food, but to pass out bibles of course. Anyway, these missionaries are crackpots that don't believe in getting vaccinated, so they brought the measles back with them and caused the first measles outbreak in Indiana since the 1970s.Dec 18 06:07
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MinceR014107 < DaemonFC> MinceR should like this.Dec 18 06:53
MinceRi did.Dec 18 06:53
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schestowitz__> On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 08:46:15AM PST, Roy Schestowitz spake thusly:Dec 18 08:06
schestowitz__> There seems to have been an issue with server performance or maybeDec 18 08:06
schestowitz__> varnish since last night. Load avg on the server, however, is nothingDec 18 08:06
schestowitz__> out of the ordinary.Dec 18 08:06
schestowitz__>>Dec 18 08:06
schestowitz__> I've been getting pages about it this morning too. I'll check it out.Dec 18 08:06
schestowitz__>>>> We think that he came to a somewhat invalid and strong statementDec 18 08:07
schestowitz__>>>> there but I was hoping he could provide a link or source.  I'veDec 18 08:07
schestowitz__>>>> also attempted to contact Charlie if he had stated such previously.Dec 18 08:08
schestowitz__>>>> It is not stated in the article of ours that Dr. Schestowitz linkedDec 18 08:08
schestowitz__>>>> and so I was hoping there is an older source for such information.Dec 18 08:08
schestowitz__>>>>Dec 18 08:08
schestowitz__>>>> Thank you,Dec 18 08:08
schestowitz__>>>>Dec 18 08:08
schestowitz__>>>> Ed.Dec 18 08:08
schestowitz__> That was in 2007 or so, in The Inquirer. Microsoft's PR staff tried toDec 18 08:08
schestowitz__> send gifts, hoping for favourable coverage of the product (Vista).Dec 18 08:08
schestowitz__> Dec 18 08:08
schestowitz__>> Before my time.  Many thanks for the clarity!Dec 18 08:08
iophkno date on the article, could be any month or year : http://www.pcworld.com/article/2081140/german-coalition-favors-germanowned-or-open-source-software-aims-to-lock-nsa-out.htmlDec 18 09:10
TechrightsBot-trwww.pcworld.com | German coalition favors German-owned or open source software, aims to lock NSA out | PCWorld  [ http://ur1.ca/g7ued ]Dec 18 09:10
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schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3419305Dec 18 09:18
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: 'Legalising' the crimes of the #nsa after the act http://www.huffingtonpost.com/daniel-simon/senate-committee-passes-t_b_4451107.htmlDec 18 09:18
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.huffingtonpost.com | Senate Committee Passes Two Bills Protecting NSA's Actions | Daniel Simon  [ http://ur1.ca/g7ufa ]Dec 18 09:18
schestowitz__"Nice government, hope North Americans enjoy it."Dec 18 09:18
schestowitz__"We do not :("Dec 18 09:18
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schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3420117Dec 18 09:19
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #firefox for #android is still a little buggy and deficient. Google's spyware (Chrome) not an option. What other decent options are there?Dec 18 09:19
schestowitz__"I wouldnt say it is buggy? I use it all day."Dec 18 09:19
schestowitz__"I use the nightly, it's even better if you don't mind updating it every day"Dec 18 09:20
schestowitz__"Lightning?"Dec 18 09:20
schestowitz__"I have the same problem with #Firefox for #Android. It crashes regularly for me. I wonder if it's a problem with my Droid 3 having only 512 MB of RAM as Firefox can be quite the resource hog."Dec 18 09:20
schestowitz__"Firefox just became my favorite android browser. I'm not experiencing the bugs yet. My daily android browser until now has been Dolphin."Dec 18 09:20
schestowitz__"prism-break.org"Dec 18 09:21
schestowitz__"I used Dolphin browser and works fine, but not sure about privacy, after getting Firefox I seldom use Dolphin."Dec 18 09:21
schestowitz__"Terminal.app and lynx ;-)"Dec 18 09:21
schestowitz__"i prefere links instead of lynx :p"Dec 18 09:22
schestowitz__"btw the best antispy mobile browser might be #orweb - wich is kind of a torbrowser for #android"Dec 18 09:22
schestowitz__"I typically use Lightning."Dec 18 09:22
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schestowitz__"@Bernd: well, if you're going to get to brass tacks, I generally prefer w3m to either ;-)"Dec 18 09:23
schestowitz__"@Bernd: one of the things I like is that it's got vim-like bindings. It's pretty good, though sadly more and more of the Web is passing console-mode browsers by...."Dec 18 09:23
schestowitz__"w3m looks very interesting!"Dec 18 09:24
MinceRgeekingsDec 18 09:33
DaemonFCThe official Mozilla Firefox binary supports h264.Dec 18 09:38
DaemonFCFedora's doesn'tDec 18 09:38
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3416037Dec 18 09:49
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Microsoft has been using GNU/Linux internally for hosting (in quite a few cases). INTERNALLY. Maybe it wants no back doors INSIDE company.Dec 18 09:49
schestowitz__"Haha ok, thanks Roy, I'll look for them! @Julien Ironic indeed!"Dec 18 09:49
DaemonFCWatching an h264 video in Firefox on Youtube.Dec 18 09:53
schestowitz__https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kP8qb1ChnQ4Dec 18 09:53
TechrightsBot-trwww.youtube.com | Former NSA Employees Tell Beck Why Gov't Is Gathering Data on...You - YouTube  [ http://ur1.ca/g7umv ]Dec 18 09:53
DaemonFCMany videos still demand Flash, even with WebM and h264 support.Dec 18 09:54
DaemonFChttps://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/1487822_170353496508023_2141303769_o.jpgDec 18 09:59
DaemonFChttps://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1496285_170353529841353_1678977242_o.jpgDec 18 09:59
DaemonFCshared a link via AlterNet.Dec 18 10:08
DaemonFC7 seconds agoDec 18 10:08
DaemonFChttp://www.alternet.org/land-free-america-has-25-percent-worlds-prisonersDec 18 10:08
TechrightsBot-trwww.alternet.org | Land of the Free? America Has 25 Percent of the World’s Prisoners | Alternet  [ http://ur1.ca/g7uq3 ]Dec 18 10:08
DaemonFCIt's actually pretty damned easy to get on a sex offender list. All you have to do is get a nude picture sent to your cell phone from someone that looks like they might be under 18. It doesn't matter if they *are* under 18, or if you consented to receive the picture.Dec 18 10:08
DaemonFCUnder federal law, all that matters is that a federal prosecutor can make the case that the person who sent you the (possibly unwanted) picture might look like they're under 18, if you squint just right.Dec 18 10:08
DaemonFCThe only reason that the state makes lists like these and legal requirements that could ensnare millions of people that didn't really even do anything wrong, is because they (a) want a huge prison population for our for-profit privatized prisons, and (b) they want them to be blackballed from gainful employment, so that they'll be back and make the private prison companies even more money.Dec 18 10:10
iophkAnd non-violent prisoners are the most cost-effective to incarcerate, using the least resources to manage.Dec 18 10:12
DaemonFC2 seconds agoDec 18 10:13
DaemonFCThe state makes it pretty easy to go to prison if you're poor. They just criminalize behavior that's associated with being poor.Dec 18 10:13
DaemonFCSome states are now making it a crime to eat while homeless. Seriously.Dec 18 10:13
DaemonFCThey criminalize the act of feeding the homeless, and they criminalize the act of the homeless person eating the food.Dec 18 10:13
DaemonFCIt makes it easier to stock the private prisons with people who won't be missed.Dec 18 10:13
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schestowitz__DaemonFC: the prisons in the US niw oriduce giidsDec 18 10:15
schestowitz__now produce goodsDec 18 10:15
schestowitz__for private companiesDec 18 10:16
schestowitz__the poor are cheaper to employ from inside prisonDec 18 10:16
schestowitz__Worse than ChinaDec 18 10:16
iophkFree labor is an old tradition.  See chain gangs.Dec 18 10:16
DaemonFCshared a link via Bernie Sanders.Dec 18 10:16
DaemonFC8 seconds agoDec 18 10:16
iophkThey caught lots of people just for passing through.Dec 18 10:17
schestowitz__I hear that it's widely accepted in some parts of AsiaDec 18 10:17
DaemonFChttp://www.sanders.senate.gov/newsroom/recent-business/budget-bill-advancesDec 18 10:17
TechrightsBot-trwww.sanders.senate.gov | Budget Bill Advances - Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont  [ http://ur1.ca/g7ure ]Dec 18 10:17
schestowitz__In ww2 it was also commonDec 18 10:17
DaemonFCMy comment:Dec 18 10:17
DaemonFCThe Big Lie of the Republican Party and the right-wing Corporate Democrats is that Social Security and Medicare are causing the federal budget deficits.Dec 18 10:17
DaemonFCIn reality, the federal government OWES Social Security + Medicare over $5 trillion.Dec 18 10:17
DaemonFCWhy? They "borrowed" the money to hide the huge deficits caused by Reagan and Bush Jr.'s military spending.Dec 18 10:17
DaemonFCI think Republican voters should be deported to Iraq or Afghanistan (their choice) to be reunited with their retirement money.Dec 18 10:17
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DaemonFCIf you're under 50 now and paying Social Security and Medicare Tax, it's because your parents are voting for people like Republican Paul Ryan, which promise not to touch "theirs" (which is coming directly out of what you're paying now), and promising to screw you over instead.Dec 18 10:20
DaemonFC2 seconds agoDec 18 10:27
DaemonFCThe truth is that ever since Ronald Reagan's crooks and cronies started talking about that "Social Security Lockbox" bullshit, they've been funneling the trust fund money out to cover military deficit spending. It's gotten so bad now that there is no "fund". They just directly rob Peter (age 35) to pay Paul (age 65). The trust fund "exists" as a ledger entry.Dec 18 10:27
DaemonFCThe only way to pay out the benefits that have been promised are to raise various taxes, so they're getting together to pitch benefit cuts instead.Dec 18 10:27
DaemonFCThat's where this Chained CPI thing came from. They're going to cover the shortfall they caused by quietly stealing $50,000 or so from each person's retirement money, and never paying out the first dime of "trust fund" money.Dec 18 10:27
DaemonFCClever that. And right-wing Corporate Democrats like Barack Obama and Erskine Bowles, along with the majority of Republicans, have convinced people that C-CPI is a "minor technical correction".Dec 18 10:27
DaemonFCSocial Security has these things called "Special Issue Treasury Securities". Basically, they all say that it's up to the US Treasury whether or not it wants to honor them. So far, it has done so. Thanks to the 2008 economic collapse, Social Security started paying out more than it was taking in years before anyone thought that it would. With something like 2-3 million people per month losing their jobs and not paying Social Security taxes Dec 18 10:35
DaemonFCanymore during the last year of the Bush Administration, that was bound to happen.Dec 18 10:35
DaemonFCMany of the people that lost their jobs still aren't employed. They found their way onto Social Security early, either by going on Early Retirement and taking the penalty, or by finding a way to get on Social Security Disability. With a lot of people in their 50s and 60s, who were not in good health, being fired, and having no future job opportunities, the Social Security Disability program was more or less forced to take them all in. These Dec 18 10:35
DaemonFCpeople were at the point where they had limited employment options, but could manage to do the jobs they had, until they were fired.Dec 18 10:35
DaemonFCYou've got a 59 year old woman that has the beginnings of arthritis and a degenerative eye disease. Do you spend several years retraining her, or just put her on DI and let her wait out the next 6 years and then retire? Dec 18 10:37
DaemonFCSo, DI has become early retirement for a lot of these people.Dec 18 10:38
DaemonFChttp://www.npr.org/blogs/krulwich/2013/12/16/251672253/why-we-need-grandpas-and-grandmas-part-1?utm_content=socialflow&utm_campaign=nprfacebook&utm_source=npr&utm_medium=facebookDec 18 10:44
TechrightsBot-trwww.npr.org | Why We Need Grandpas And Grandmas (Part 1) : Krulwich Wonders... : NPR  [ http://ur1.ca/g7uy6 ]Dec 18 10:44
DaemonFCshared a link via Salon.Dec 18 10:53
DaemonFC10 seconds agoDec 18 10:53
DaemonFChttp://slnm.us/2poJ6nPDec 18 10:53
TechrightsBot-trwww.salon.com | My son, the pink boy - Salon.comDec 18 10:53
DaemonFCPeople think that the worst thing that could happen is that their son grows up to be gay.Dec 18 10:53
DaemonFCWhy can't they just be thankful if they have a healthy son with ten fingers and ten toes, that grows up and does something useful for the world, and manages to stay out of trouble?Dec 18 10:53
DaemonFCI can name some straight men that I've seen who cook meth, impregnate women at random (who go on welfare, with all the children), and then end up in and out of prison.Dec 18 10:53
DaemonFCWould your rather have a son like that?Dec 18 10:53
schestowitz__http://hexus.net/tech/news/graphics/62093-amd-denies-sending-golden-sample-r290-cards-reviewers/Dec 18 10:54
TechrightsBot-trhexus.net | AMD denies sending ‘golden sample’ R290 cards to reviewers - Graphics - News - HEXUS.net  [ http://ur1.ca/g7ozn ]Dec 18 10:54
schestowitz__[13:28] <iophk> still claiming that M$ is vulnerable because of its market share rather than just plain bad designDec 18 11:07
schestowitz__The augtor is a MS partnerDec 18 11:07
schestowitz__he used to bash Linux a lotDec 18 11:07
schestowitz__This one ain't as bad as beforeDec 18 11:07
DaemonFChttp://www.alternet.org/vitamin-industry-scam-says-medical-journal-annals-internal-medicineDec 18 11:25
TechrightsBot-trwww.alternet.org | Medical Journal: Vitamins Are a Scam That Wastes Your Money and Has No Health Benefits | Alternet  [ http://ur1.ca/g7v6i ]Dec 18 11:25
MinceRhttp://www.fatducktech.com/wp-content/uploads/MacWipe.jpgDec 18 11:26
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DaemonFChttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/20/negative-interest-rates_n_4310001.htmlDec 18 11:46
TechrightsBot-trwww.huffingtonpost.com | Larry Summers' Desperate Depression-Fighting Idea May Soon Be Reality  [ http://ur1.ca/g7v9y ]Dec 18 11:46
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schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3425955Dec 18 11:48
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Land of the Free? America Has 25 Percent of the World’s PrisonersDec 18 11:48
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.alternet.org | Land of the Free? America Has 25 Percent of the World’s Prisoners | Alternet  [ http://ur1.ca/g7uq3 ]Dec 18 11:48
DaemonFCMinceR: Write random garbage to the hard disk drive?Dec 18 11:48
DaemonFCIsn't that what the Apple App Store does anyway?Dec 18 11:49
DaemonFC:)Dec 18 11:49
schestowitz__"Dec 18 11:49
schestowitz__There are 2 things the USA does well ............Dec 18 11:49
schestowitz__    Producing prisonersDec 18 11:49
schestowitz__    SlaveryDec 18 11:49
schestowitz__One day they will abolish something and then they will have less people to arrest as they will all be of a more equal standard.Dec 18 11:49
schestowitz__Really does need a graph showing where the divide is ........ not that drugs and supplying them to your own people is a business - who knows who benefits from this ......... but we can all easily see who looks after the goods and the plants.Dec 18 11:49
schestowitz__Which other country needs to build new roads in Afghanistan to keep the product flowing - especially when 3300 tonnes of it comes out of there each year.Dec 18 11:49
schestowitz__Then in the Newspaper they report massive drugs bust of 10 tonnes.Dec 18 11:49
schestowitz__What percentage is that of the overall amount - and the main question is - what ever are they doing that makes production go up each year ............Dec 18 11:49
schestowitz__If they could only build that into a business strategy for something good that produces something of less value but more ethical and moral ...........Dec 18 11:49
schestowitz__But it always seems .......... Money the route of all evil ...........Dec 18 11:49
schestowitz__The Land of the FREE - changes your mind about what you want - when you see that the FREE are never FREE in that country.Dec 18 11:49
schestowitz__Even the Elite on their Golf Courses ...... trapped by routine and fear of losing money.Dec 18 11:49
schestowitz__I have no problems with rich or poor ........ as both are under the very same system .........Dec 18 11:49
schestowitz__The fact that the system relies on making people into slaves and has no limits on how much of a slave each person becomes to money ( as this can be their own choice ) depending on one thing and one thing alone.Dec 18 11:49
schestowitz__Their own decisions .........Dec 18 11:49
schestowitz__Not taking drugs - not getting involved in drugs - not seeing the money signs flashing before their eyes and being fished out of a sea of people hoping that it will lead them to a better life ..........Dec 18 11:50
schestowitz__Reality is what we have ...... the reality ..... is shown in the article above.Dec 18 11:50
schestowitz__Ask how many are drug related and then ask if NSA spies on people and knows what they do and who they see - do they not also know every drug dealer and ever batch of these drugs has to be monitored to make sure no one rips them off.Dec 18 11:50
schestowitz__Big organization and big money .......... but its all for nothing.Dec 18 11:50
schestowitz__Destroys from the heart of the society .... giving little in return - other than that all famous Money ....... that in return buys more misery.Dec 18 11:50
schestowitz__Think its all coming together now #NSA #DRUGS #AFGHANISTAN #PRISON as CHEAP #SLAVE-LABOUR.Dec 18 11:50
schestowitz__The most startling fact ....... the lowest production of drugs was under the Taliban in 2001 ....... then things changed - just look at actions - no rhetoric really needed.Dec 18 11:50
schestowitz__https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=afghanistan+drugs+taliban+graph&client=ubuntu&hs=yRb&channel=fs&gl=uk&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=6oSxUreuNIKx0QWwn4GABA&ved=0CAkQ_AUoAQ&biw=1136&bih=511Dec 18 11:50
schestowitz__"Dec 18 11:50
TechrightsBot-trwww.google.co.uk | afghanistan drugs taliban graph - Google Search  [ http://ur1.ca/g7vaj ]Dec 18 11:50
MinceRDaemonFC: it does something worseDec 18 11:51
MinceRrandom garbage is better than most crApple products :>Dec 18 11:51
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/413277038662131712   https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/413277598282973184 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/413278119878201344  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/413278288820580352Dec 18 12:07
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: Back up https://t.co/mGabjgbWpPDec 18 12:07
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: World versus #NSA in one photo http://t.co/dBR69q5tdPDec 18 12:07
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: Developer mode http://t.co/UhC1uYDHWvDec 18 12:07
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: Supplements to the non-deficient http://t.co/w2RI7D0SD0Dec 18 12:07
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.alternet.org | Medical Journal: Vitamins Are a Scam That Wastes Your Money and Has No Health Benefits | AlternetDec 18 12:07
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schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3426265Dec 18 12:11
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Developer mode http://www.fatducktech.com/wp-content/uploads/MacWipe.jpgDec 18 12:11
schestowitz__"Works with Ubuntu Software Centre too!"Dec 18 12:11
schestowitz__"Works with Ubuntu Software Centre too! Only correction: instead of "disk0" "sda"."Dec 18 12:12
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schestowitz__https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/413286754792529920  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/413281501154136066Dec 18 12:38
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: Just spoke to a high manager at #natwest (she phoned) ranting for about 10 minutes. The funny thing is, they cannot refute, only sideline.Dec 18 12:38
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: "It was a phenomenal year of growth for Linux. It is the fastest-growing operating system" http://t.co/uspfzT2FOsDec 18 12:38
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.linux.com | Win Free Linux Loot: Who Said This?  | Linux.comDec 18 12:38
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/413287213766807552Dec 18 12:40
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: Online banking sites in the #uk often rely on #windows - when scams take place (often!) they 'socialise' the cost (collective punishment)Dec 18 12:40
iophkhttp://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/energy/fracking/10523069/Half-of-Britain-to-be-offered-for-shale-gas-drilling-as-fracking-areas-face-50-trucks-passing-each-day.htmlDec 18 12:41
TechrightsBot-trwww.telegraph.co.uk | Half of Britain to be offered for shale gas drilling as fracking areas face 50 trucks passing each day - Telegraph  [ http://ur1.ca/g7vlv ]Dec 18 12:41
iophkhttp://torrentfreak.com/pirate-bay-moves-to-guyana-131218/Dec 18 12:44
iophkhttp://falkvinge.net/2013/12/17/swedish-man-sentenced-to-half-million-euro-in-damages-for-sharing-one-movie/Dec 18 12:44
TechrightsBot-trtorrentfreak.com | Pirate Bay Moves to Guyana After Domain Suspension, 70 Domains to Go | TorrentFreak  [ http://ur1.ca/g7vmn ]Dec 18 12:44
TechrightsBot-trfalkvinge.net | Swedish Man Sentenced to Half-Million Euro In Damages For Sharing ONE Movie - Falkvinge on Infopolicy  [ http://ur1.ca/g7vmp ]Dec 18 12:44
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/413287213766807552Dec 18 12:54
iophkhttp://torrentfreak.com/customs-asked-to-leak-kim-dotcom-secrets-to-fbi-for-brownie-points-131217/Dec 18 12:54
TechrightsBot-trtorrentfreak.com | Customs Asked to Leak Kim Dotcom Secrets to FBI for “Brownie Points” | TorrentFreak  [ http://ur1.ca/g7vop ]Dec 18 12:54
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/413290562725634049Dec 18 12:55
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: The Positive Power of Ubuntu GNU/Linux Seen in South Korea http://t.co/3DnjJwZY0e #munich #korea #ubuntuDec 18 12:55
TechrightsBot-tr-> techrights.org | The Positive Power of Ubuntu GNU/Linux Seen in South Korea | TechrightsDec 18 12:56
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/413291179720318976Dec 18 12:56
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: The #uk is being fracked and it doesn't even know it (we don't get told) http://t.co/aNMN6esWEsDec 18 12:56
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schestowitz__https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/413291656474271744  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/413292295610703872\Dec 18 13:01
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: #fbi = crime gang http://t.co/QMX3jyz48o this is not law, this is the law of gangsDec 18 13:01
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: How about sentencing Clapper and Alexander, e.g. a decade in prison or serious fines? No, must prosecute sharers http://t.co/LOwQ2IaiofDec 18 13:01
iophkWhat happened to Wired recently?  It has turned into a platform for M$Dec 18 13:03
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schestowitz__YesDec 18 13:06
schestowitz__what now?Dec 18 13:06
schestowitz__and also platform for US gov.Dec 18 13:06
iophkIt's bordering on propaganda.Dec 18 13:07
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schestowitz__https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/413293365191774208 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/413293841660530688  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/413298340613603328Dec 18 13:25
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: "RethinkDB open-sourced the database under a GNU license in November 2012, and the community is 4,000 developers" http://t.co/wxfsAhAZFyDec 18 13:25
TechrightsBot-tr-> venturebeat.com | RethinkDB grabs $8M to show its stuff against other NoSQL databases | VentureBeat | Big Data | by Jordan NovetDec 18 13:25
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: Most Popular Photoshop Alternative: GIMP http://t.co/FRCZvMQwzD #gimp #gnuDec 18 13:25
TechrightsBot-tr-> lifehacker.com | Most Popular Photoshop Alternative: GIMPDec 18 13:25
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: Another 2 Reasons to Boycott BT: Censorship by Default, Back Doors for the US  http://t.co/4yI2Tom3il #bt #ukDec 18 13:25
TechrightsBot-tr-> techrights.org | Another 2 Reasons to Boycott BT: Censorship by Default, Back Doors for the US | TechrightsDec 18 13:26
schestowitz__iophk: got the link to that? Maybe it's time to do a post about what became of WiredDec 18 13:26
schestowitz__I did some social networking postings about it, but not much moreDec 18 13:26
iophkNo summary.  I just notice the change in the content of the articles.Dec 18 13:26
iophkIt's gotten quite bad.Dec 18 13:26
schestowitz__The moment i lost trust in them is when they helped crack down on Brad/Chelsea ManningDec 18 13:26
iophkThey've really revved up as of late.  Dec 18 13:27
schestowitz__I think they took 2 writers from the RedDec 18 13:27
schestowitz__*RegDec 18 13:27
schestowitz__Goodin and  anotherDec 18 13:27
iophkTracking the names would help.Dec 18 13:27
schestowitz__They cover IT thereDec 18 13:27
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3426265Dec 18 13:28
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Developer mode http://www.fatducktech.com/wp-content/uploads/MacWipe.jpgDec 18 13:28
schestowitz__"There can be issue with iTunes after entering Developer Mode, but than you need to download Casual Upgrade Network Topology to make it working in this mode."Dec 18 13:28
MinceRlolDec 18 13:28
schestowitz__"issue is let down Apple iThings and Use a true OS like GNU/Linux or BSD"Dec 18 13:28
schestowitz__"I just luuuv when someone quotes RMS :D"Dec 18 13:28
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3426512Dec 18 13:28
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The #uk is being fracked and it doesn't even know it (we don't get told) http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/energy/fracking/10523069/Half-of-Britain-to-be-offered-for-shale-gas-drilling-as-fracking-areas-face-50-trucks-passing-each-day.htmlDec 18 13:28
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.telegraph.co.uk | Half of Britain to be offered for shale gas drilling as fracking areas face 50 trucks passing each day - Telegraph  [ http://ur1.ca/g7vlv ]Dec 18 13:28
schestowitz__"Just check out the Earthquake map of the UK ........ it surprised me too .........."Dec 18 13:28
schestowitz__http://www.earthquakes.bgs.ac.uk/hazard/ukhazardmap.html We really need to see current quakes in real time and then monitor them from now on ............. see if there is a link ....... !!! Then the drinking water - see if any contamination occurs and where .......... http://www.earthquakes.bgs.ac.uk/earthquakes/home.htmlDec 18 13:29
TechrightsBot-tr ( status 404 @ http://www.earthquakes.bgs.ac.uk/hazard/ukhazardmap.html )Dec 18 13:29
TechrightsBot-trwww.earthquakes.bgs.ac.uk | BGS Earthquake Seismology  [ http://ur1.ca/g7vsr ]Dec 18 13:29
schestowitz__":D"Dec 18 13:34
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3426265Dec 18 13:34
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3424397Dec 18 13:34
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #TSA strategy is a disaster http://www.dailymail.co.uk/indiahome/indianews/article-2525459/Strip-search-Outraged-India-backs-retaliation-US-treatment-countrys-diplomat.htmlDec 18 13:34
schestowitz__"I know about amerikan citizens that were killed by usa for being terrorists . I was not aware there was terrorist attacks on amerikan ground other than boston bomb . was there ? @will I really admire your enthusiasm ."Dec 18 13:34
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.dailymail.co.uk | Political parties unite in outrage against US after Indian diplomat is strip-searched in New York  | Mail Online  [ http://ur1.ca/g7ugs ]Dec 18 13:34
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/413300670650150912  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/413309886169370625Dec 18 14:10
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: There are still very many colonised nations. The problem is, many of those who are colonised don't know they are. Same with wage/debt slavesDec 18 14:10
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: #seagate cannot justify preinstalling #microsoft #patent #trap and monopolistic binaries on drives. "Format" in Windows not hard at all.Dec 18 14:10
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/413310432045461504Dec 18 14:12
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: Quarter of a million characters in my drafts file of stories (plain text file) I have not had time to work on and publish yet. Xmas may helpDec 18 14:12
iophkmanagement of keys is becoming a problem in large scale deployments:Dec 18 14:34
iophkhttp://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article&sid=20131218044759Dec 18 14:34
iophkthe current technology does not scale wellDec 18 14:34
TechrightsBot-trundeadly.org | USENIX LISA 2013 Managing Access Using SSH Keys [video]  [ http://ur1.ca/g7w24 ]Dec 18 14:34
iophkhttp://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2013/12/18/microsofts-steve-ballmer-nobody-ever-buys-windows-they-buy-windows-pcs/Dec 18 15:01
TechrightsBot-trwww.forbes.com | Microsoft's Steve Ballmer "Nobody ever buys Windows. They buy Windows PCs." - Forbes  [ http://ur1.ca/g7w5e ]Dec 18 15:01
iophkM$ may be losing the OEM market.Dec 18 15:01
iophkWhen it does, it is gone.Dec 18 15:01
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iophkhttp://mrpogson.com/2013/12/18/parade-of-small-cheap-computers/Dec 18 15:23
TechrightsBot-trmrpogson.com | Parade of Small Cheap Computers  |   Robert Pogson  [ http://ur1.ca/g7w91 ]Dec 18 15:23
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3418480Dec 18 15:31
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Linux expertise in #india http://www.nextbigwhat.com/kerala-government-raspberry-pi-297/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=kerala-government-raspberry-piDec 18 15:31
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.nextbigwhat.com | Kerala Government To Distribute 10,000 Raspberry Pi Computers In Schools  [ http://ur1.ca/g7wa2 ]Dec 18 15:31
schestowitz__"CubieBoard could be nicely to get it working with a cluster"Dec 18 15:31
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iophkhttp://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-57615971-93/google-deepens-involvement-in-open-source-patent-effort/Dec 18 19:12
TechrightsBot-trnews.cnet.com | Google deepens involvement in open-source patent effort | Internet & Media - CNET News  [ http://ur1.ca/g7x3m ]Dec 18 19:12
sebsebsebhi iophkDec 18 19:14
iophkhiDec 18 19:14
sebsebsebiophk: yep I am dong merchandiceDec 18 19:15
sebsebsebfreebiesDec 18 19:15
sebsebsebwell not the openSUSE stuff probably,  but the rest probablyDec 18 19:15
iophkniceDec 18 19:15
sebsebsebmay have to try and get for MINT as well if he can't,  Ubuntu should be easy enough someone, others hae contacted for those toDec 18 19:16
sebsebsebiophk: I think put in some Magiea stuff in the freebiesDec 18 19:16
iophkgoodDec 18 19:16
sebsebsebhe was ike to me, I don't really care what is given out, as long as it's reliventDec 18 19:16
iophkit's relevantDec 18 19:16
sebsebsebiophk: might have lost smething from the bag of stuffDec 18 19:16
sebsebsebI had yesterday not suire quiteDec 18 19:16
sebsebsebprobably okDec 18 19:16
sebsebsebiophk: Fedora worht having?Dec 18 19:17
sebsebsebcould get Fedora discs toDec 18 19:17
sebsebseboh and the discs that's including for the remasterd distrosDec 18 19:17
sebsebsebhaving a few offical onesDec 18 19:17
iophkFedora is good but maybe not the best intro for beginnersDec 18 19:17
sebsebsebyeah exactly that's why it's out as a remasterDec 18 19:18
sebsebsebiophk: might not be so keen on me ading in freebies of that to be honest I guesDec 18 19:18
sebsebsebiophk: what about CentOS  I could get dics for that, but probably a bit sillyDec 18 19:19
sebsebsebiophk: I should probbly just stick to the stuff for those distro's :dDec 18 19:19
sebsebsebsomething MageiaDec 18 19:19
sebsebsebandDec 18 19:19
sebsebsebgeneral thing like for Mozilla and a Libre Office flyer and the one about the LUG etcDec 18 19:19
sebsebsebiophk: event sticker get made to probabyDec 18 19:20
iophkwhat's on the sticker?Dec 18 19:20
sebsebseblike what I sowed them probably if thatDec 18 19:21
sebsebsebgot to find out how much that costs etcDec 18 19:21
sebsebseb,but the event name and a LUGDec 18 19:21
sebsebseband a Tux probablyDec 18 19:21
iophkTux stickers are probably popular.Dec 18 19:23
sebsebsebwel he gave one out at OGG Camp 13Dec 18 19:23
sebsebsebhe made oneDec 18 19:23
sebsebsebfor that eent with thier LUG and a TuxDec 18 19:23
sebsebseblooks nice, so someting like thatDec 18 19:24
iophk"Many companies using Linux pay Microsoft patent royalties for its operating system intellectual property{sic}. "Dec 18 19:26
sebsebsebyeah openSUSEDec 18 19:27
sebsebseb?Dec 18 19:27
iophkhttp://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-57615971-93/google-deepens-involvement-in-open-source-patent-effort/Dec 18 19:27
TechrightsBot-trnews.cnet.com | Google deepens involvement in open-source patent effort | Internet & Media - CNET News  [ http://ur1.ca/g7x3m ]Dec 18 19:27
sebsebsebiophk: would you go to Amsterdam after FOSDEMDec 18 19:27
iophkProbably, if I were going.Dec 18 19:27
sebsebsebiophk: there's this guy going from USA frm the project after, butDec 18 19:28
sebsebsebI think if going from USA it makes senseDec 18 19:28
sebsebsebeven when the wehater won't be that great etcDec 18 19:28
sebsebsebiophk: ,but when lviingg in Europe anyway wellDec 18 19:28
sebsebsebI mean could fly when it's cheaper in the summer or somethingDec 18 19:28
iophkAmsterdam has a major airport, he may have to change planes there anyway.Dec 18 19:28
sebsebsebiophk: I am just a bit unsure if I want to join him or not as wellDec 18 19:29
iophkIf so, then it's no real extra cost (usually) to stay over a day or three.Dec 18 19:29
sebsebsebI mean I'll go a day earier on the Thursday to meet himDec 18 19:29
sebsebseb,but I probably won't really want to travel on the train on Sunday eveningDec 18 19:30
sebsebsebiophk: plus he goes on the Thursday morningDec 18 19:30
sebsebsebso i I am still there, I won't get a plane untill the eeningDec 18 19:30
iophkwill you ride through the 'chunnel' ?Dec 18 19:30
sebsebsebthere's something going on on that THurday evening probably around hereDec 18 19:30
sebsebsebiophk: no no Dover or wherever the tunnel went is a bit past ondonDec 18 19:30
sebsebsebyeah DoverDec 18 19:30
sebsebseband  London is like two hours or so away from hereDec 18 19:30
sebsebsebthe motorway etcDec 18 19:31
sebsebsebiophk: so it's better to just fly in my caseDec 18 19:31
sebsebsebcan go from the the air port  nearish to here etcDec 18 19:31
sebsebsebiophk: that could be like two hours to get to whatever train to get to France etcDec 18 19:31
sebsebsebqucker and easier to just flyDec 18 19:32
sebsebsebiophk: he's going to some hotel in Amsterdam on the Sunday eveningDec 18 19:32
sebsebsebthat has a sports barDec 18 19:32
sebsebseband watch the super bowelDec 18 19:32
iophkboooringDec 18 19:32
sebsebsebiophk: I don't really have any interest in the super bowl as such, since not AmericanDec 18 19:32
sebsebseboh you don't watch that?Dec 18 19:33
iophknoDec 18 19:33
sebsebsebto geeky?Dec 18 19:33
iophkno it's too boring.Dec 18 19:33
iophkNo action.Dec 18 19:33
sebsebsebiophk: he's quite a lot older this guy  I could join in a way, butDec 18 19:33
sebsebsebthat's more hotel cost and travel hasle a bit an all that you knowDec 18 19:33
sebsebseband I don't want to watch the super bowl particuarlly like he doesDec 18 19:33
iophkbest to skip it thenDec 18 19:34
sebsebsebplus he would leave on Thurday morning,  with me still being  thre, beause  not raely a early moring prsonDec 18 19:34
sebsebsebiophk: yeah and what you going to do in Amsterdam, the weahter could be like it is here right nowDec 18 19:34
sebsebsebwindy with a lot of rainDec 18 19:34
sebsebsebor it could be snowey or somethingDec 18 19:34
sebsebsebiophk: I could go backo n the Wednesdy if I wre to I gues, but it seems a bit pointlessDec 18 19:35
iophkAnything you want to see in Belgium?Dec 18 19:35
sebsebsebAmsterdam would be nice to go to though, but in the summer :)Dec 18 19:35
sebsebsebbeen to other parts of Belguim already, but I am stuck in the city  I think for this trip really again, but that's okDec 18 19:35
sebsebsebiophk: Monday may get a bit boringDec 18 19:36
sebsebseband Sunday eveningDec 18 19:36
sebsebsebif stll thereDec 18 19:36
sebsebseb,butDec 18 19:36
sebsebsebdependsDec 18 19:36
sebsebsebiophk: then may not want to do same things in Amsterdam really anyway and so onDec 18 19:38
sebsebsebso probably better to not go there with himDec 18 19:38
iophkprobably notDec 18 19:39
sebsebsebplus  I want to be back on that Thursday eening around here really, because of something that's going onDec 18 19:39
sebsebsebI am going to book my fligght soonDec 18 19:39
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sebsebsebiophk: going a day earlier than I would have doneDec 18 19:40
sebsebsebto meet him makes sense thoughDec 18 19:40
sebsebsebmeans missing that thing in eening though, but oh wellDec 18 19:40
iophkhttps://fosdem.org/2014/keysigning/Dec 18 19:41
TechrightsBot-trfosdem.org | FOSDEM 2014 - KeysigningDec 18 19:41
sebsebsebwhat about it?Dec 18 19:44
iophkThe opportunity is thereDec 18 19:45
sebsebsebof course there wil be stuff ik thatDec 18 19:45
sebsebsebit's a major geeks eventDec 18 19:45
sebsebsebiophk: that really i s a lot of rain outsideDec 18 19:48
iophkas long as it is outside...Dec 18 19:49
sebsebsebiophk: river is quite a bit away so I don't think will flood here :dDec 18 19:51
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Sosumihttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/BbyuyNxCUAAiJNt.jpg:largeDec 18 20:03
Sosumico-financed by Billy and Melinda Gates FoundationDec 18 20:03
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Sosumihttp://www.macrumors.com/2013/12/18/software-allows-hackers-to-activate-macbook-webcams-without-green-warning-light/Dec 18 22:37
TechrightsBot-trwww.macrumors.com | Software Allows Hackers to Activate MacBook Webcams Without Green Warning Light - Mac Rumors  [ http://ur1.ca/g7xsq ]Dec 18 22:37
Sosumithe camera is ALWAYS active, crapple uses it to detect motion and so reset the sleep timer if there's motion in front of the screenDec 18 22:38
Sosumiso the light is kind of uselessDec 18 22:38
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DaemonFChttp://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/dune-herbert-frank/1116890889Dec 19 05:57
TechrightsBot-trwww.barnesandnoble.com | Dune (Barnes & Noble Collectible Editions) by Frank Herbert | Hardcover | Barnes & Noble  [ http://ur1.ca/g7za0 ]Dec 19 05:57
DaemonFCGood choice.Dec 19 05:57
Sosumihttp://rt.com/usa/snowden-google-search-trends-442/Dec 19 06:43
TechrightsBot-trrt.com | NO TITLE  [ http://ur1.ca/g7zf0 ]Dec 19 06:43
SosumiShocker: Snowden, Manning, NSA not on Google's 2013 top trendsDec 19 06:43
SosumiI said it before, outside the techie circle, no one caresDec 19 06:44
Sosumineither of the participating companies lost clients aka bozosDec 19 06:45
Sosumiand so far the lost contracts have been with foreign governments/institutionsDec 19 06:45
Sosumilike IBM losing some market in Asia or Brazil just picking Saab Jets over BoiengDec 19 06:46
Sosumialso I think there are many conditionalities when buying airplanes from US companiesDec 19 06:47
Sosumilike you don't get the source code for the avionics and targeting systems of the planeDec 19 06:48
Sosumiso you don't know if the plane can be taken in mid flightDec 19 06:48
Sosumior it could be all lie and google's big partner from way back then, In-Q-Tel/CIA, told them to black those "subjects" in their reportDec 19 06:50
Sosumialso Pirate Bay's Gottfried to spend christmas in isolation like if he was Anibal LecterDec 19 06:56
Sosumieven Anders Breivik is in better condition than himDec 19 06:57
Sosumiand he's mass murderDec 19 06:57
DaemonFCshared a link.Dec 19 07:02
DaemonFC2 seconds agoDec 19 07:02
DaemonFChttp://bit.ly/1fnfPapDec 19 07:02
TechrightsBot-trsecure3.convio.net | Tell 'Duck Dynasty' Star: Being Gay Isn't a Sin  Or a Choice - Human Rights CampaignDec 19 07:03
DaemonFC"The reality TV assholes made these guys rich, but that doesn't mean that they are intelligent or have any class. In the end, they're still just dumb white trash with money."Dec 19 07:03
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DaemonFC4 minutes agoDec 19 07:42
DaemonFChttp://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-12-17/north-carolina-shows-how-to-crush-the-unemployed.htmlDec 19 07:42
TechrightsBot-trwww.bloomberg.com | North Carolina Shows How to Crush the Unemployed - Bloomberg  [ http://ur1.ca/g7zkh ]Dec 19 07:42
DaemonFCNorth Carolina's Republican government has abandoned the unemployed by rejecting more federal funds for emergency unemployment benefits.Dec 19 07:42
DaemonFCSo, North Carolina offers us a glimpse at what will happen nationally when the Republicans succeed in doing it to 1.3 million more people across the country in a few more days.Dec 19 07:42
DaemonFCNorth Carolina's Republicans have unintentionally proven that unemployment income doesn't discourage people from looking for work, but that losing that income discourages them to quit looking for work permanently.Dec 19 07:42
DaemonFCSince receiving UI requires people to actively look for work and prove that they are doing it, the incentive to look for work is built into the system. Since North Carolina cut off unemployment benefits, 77,000 people there quit looking for any kind of work at all.Dec 19 07:42
DaemonFCWhat's depressing about this is that since they gave up, they'll no longer count as unemployed, and the Republican Party can point to lower "unemployment" numbers as proof that their cruel UI cuts are "working".Dec 19 07:42
DaemonFCI emailed that one to Richard Stallman.Dec 19 07:47
DaemonFCI edited it to add the line "There's no reason to when there are no jobs for them, and they're not going to receive a dime for trying to look for one anyway."Dec 19 07:47
DaemonFCNo reason to look for work when there isn't any and you won't be paid for trying.Dec 19 07:47
DaemonFC2 seconds agoDec 19 08:51
DaemonFCI used to purchase and recommend Samsung products, but there's some problems with them, and the company.Dec 19 08:51
DaemonFC1. I basically had to pull teeth to get them to release source code to some binary programs they had distributed, when the source code was under the General Public License, which gives users the right to demand the source code under the same terms.Dec 19 08:51
DaemonFC2. At least one Galaxy S4 phone caught fire while someone was charging it. Instead of admitting the problem and offering him a free replacement, Samsung used a bogus Digital Millennium Copyright Act complaint to get his Youtube video of him talking about what happened taken down.Dec 19 08:51
DaemonFC3. Samsung has been caught cheating on performance benchmark sites, to make their phones seem faster than they really are.Dec 19 08:51
DaemonFCI'm impressed with my new LG G2, and I'll probably buy a new LG phone the next time I'm in the market for a phone.Dec 19 08:51
DaemonFCshared a link via Slashdot.org.Dec 19 08:53
DaemonFC44 minutes agoDec 19 08:53
DaemonFCThe conservative government says these filters are "voluntary", but it opts everyone in the country into using them, forcing them to call their ISP and ask for the filter to be turned off.Dec 19 08:53
DaemonFCThe idea is that the government can "shame" people into using the filters. Of course, people should understand that there's no shame in opting out of this, and then the conservative government's little scheme would fall apart.Dec 19 08:53
DaemonFChttp://news.slashdot.org/story/13/12/19/0024249/uk-isp-adult-filters-block-sex-education-websites-allows-access-to-porn?utm_source=slashdot&utm_medium=facebookDec 19 08:53
TechrightsBot-trnews.slashdot.org | UK ISP Adult Filters Block Sex Education Websites Allows Access To Porn - Slashdot  [ http://ur1.ca/g7ztf ]Dec 19 08:53
DaemonFCThe problem with Firefox is that Mozilla doesn't act like a Free Software company anymore.Dec 19 08:57
DaemonFCI don't think they ever have. They've always been more "open source". The fact that it is Free is a side effect of being open source.Dec 19 08:58
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DaemonFChttp://worldofgnome.org/polari-a-new-irc-client-for-gnome-3-12/Dec 19 09:20
TechrightsBot-trworldofgnome.org | Polari | A new IRC Client for GNOME 3.12(?)!  |  woGue  [ http://ur1.ca/g7zwp ]Dec 19 09:20
DaemonFCI might try it.Dec 19 09:20
DaemonFCGNOME 3 lacks a decent IRC client that has a native look and feel.Dec 19 09:20
DaemonFCI noticed that Barnes & Noble have a few good GNU/Linux books. They've put them in with the section on "Computer Programming" though.Dec 19 09:24
DaemonFCSo you won't find them next to the books on how to use Windows, OS X, iOS, or Android.Dec 19 09:24
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DaemonFCshared a link.Dec 19 09:57
DaemonFCabout a minute agoDec 19 09:57
DaemonFCFirefox is far from fading away. Many people don't like Google Chrome (the spyware from Google which exists to personally identify people and deliver advertisements to them).Dec 19 09:57
DaemonFCThe Android version of Google Chrome doesn't even support extensions, and it's likely that if it ever does, Google will block advertisement blocking software. Firefox for Android has Adblock Edge. Dec 19 09:57
DaemonFChttp://venturebeat.com/2013/12/16/firefox-on-fire-with-500m-users-and-50m-android-downloads-for-2013/Dec 19 09:57
TechrightsBot-trventurebeat.com | Firefox's on fire with 500M users and 50M Android downloads for 2013 | VentureBeat | Mobile | by J. O'Dell  [ http://ur1.ca/g800q ]Dec 19 09:57
DaemonFCa few seconds agoDec 19 09:57
DaemonFCI removed Google Chrome from my system when Google started pestering me to log into my web browser (red flag) and then made it impossible to install most browser extensions unless you did that.Dec 19 09:57
DaemonFCNo privacy at all when you use Google Chrome...Dec 19 09:57
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iophkhttp://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2319871/hp-gives-ceo-a-usd15m-pay-rise-amid-worldwide-layoffsDec 19 10:32
TechrightsBot-trwww.theinquirer.net | HP gives CEO a $1.5m pay rise amid worldwide layoffs- The Inquirer  [ http://ur1.ca/g806y ]Dec 19 10:32
DaemonFCshared a link via Ars Technica.Dec 19 10:35
DaemonFC9 seconds agoDec 19 10:35
DaemonFChttp://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/12/silicon-valley-to-white-house-nsa-what-the-hell-are-you-doing/Dec 19 10:35
TechrightsBot-trarstechnica.com | Silicon Valley to White House, NSA: “What the hell are you doing?” | Ars Technica  [ http://ur1.ca/g8076 ]Dec 19 10:35
DaemonFCMicrosoft and Apple are not fighting for the user. Only Free software fights for the user.Dec 19 10:35
DaemonFCMicrosoft and Apple are panicking because their internal networks have been breached by the NSA, and the government might choose to use some of that material as evidence if they ever decide to press criminal charges against Microsoft and Apple.Dec 19 10:35
iophkhttp://torrentfreak.com/pirate-bay-back-in-swedens-calm-waters-after-gy-suspension-131219/Dec 19 10:36
iophkhttp://falkvinge.net/2013/12/18/nsa-fallout-hits-american-business-to-the-tune-of-four-billion-dollars-brazil-ditches-boeing-buys-gripen/Dec 19 10:36
TechrightsBot-trtorrentfreak.com | Pirate Bay Back in Sweden’s Calm Waters After .GY Suspension | TorrentFreak  [ http://ur1.ca/g807b ]Dec 19 10:36
TechrightsBot-trfalkvinge.net | NSA Fallout Hits American Business To The Tune Of Four Billion Dollars: Brazil Ditches Boeing, Buys Gripen - Falkvinge on Infopolicy  [ http://ur1.ca/g807c ]Dec 19 10:36
iophkhttp://www.theguardian.com/technology/2013/dec/19/tim-berners-lee-data-privacy-surveillanceDec 19 10:38
TechrightsBot-trwww.theguardian.com | Tim Berners-Lee leads call for more transparency over mass surveillance | Technology | theguardian.com  [ http://ur1.ca/g807l ]Dec 19 10:38
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iophktoo bad ReactOS is a pipe dream still Dec 19 11:05
iophkhttp://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2319858/half-of-it-pros-plan-to-use-windows-xp-after-support-ends-in-2014Dec 19 11:05
TechrightsBot-trwww.theinquirer.net | Half of IT pros plan to use Windows XP after support ends in 2014- The Inquirer  [ http://ur1.ca/g80aq ]Dec 19 11:05
DaemonFCThe federal CAFE standards, which will eventually require the US fleet to have the average fuel economy of a Toyota Prius, are admirable, but we need to get away from the gasoline engine completely.Dec 19 11:10
DaemonFCThere is only so much energy potential in a gallon of gasiline. Even modern "efficient" internal combustion engines waste almost 80% of that energy. That's only a slight improvement from the 1990s, when the internal combustion engines wasted about 85% of the energy potential of gasoline.Dec 19 11:10
DaemonFCEventually, it will be impossible for engines to become more efficient, or for a car's weight to be reduced. Demand pressure for fossil fuels is growing faster than the market for lighter and more efficient cars is, as the already-unsustainable human population of Earth continues to rise.Dec 19 11:10
DaemonFC20 years ago, a gallon of gasoline was 90 cents a gallon. Maybe $1 on a bad day. 20 years from now, you can expect to pay $7-8 per gallon.Dec 19 11:10
DaemonFCWhat would it take for the price to go down? We need population decline, to reduce the demand pressure, or to move to alternative and renewable energy sources.Dec 19 11:10
DaemonFCLike · · Share · a few seconds ago Dec 19 11:10
iophkhttp://www.itwire.com/business-it-news/security/62683-nsa-review-recommends-sweeping-changesDec 19 11:22
TechrightsBot-trwww.itwire.com | NSA review recommends sweeping changes  [ http://ur1.ca/g80cu ]Dec 19 11:22
DaemonFCFord said that they removed the Crown Victoria from their line up because it doesn't fit their customers anymore.Dec 19 11:32
DaemonFCI love my 1996 model. I's very roomy, and it has good acceleration. There's room for improvement. I think that if they brought back the body on frame Panther platform with Front Wheel Drive and a 3.8 liter DOHC Ecoboost V6, that they'd be selling like hotcakes.Dec 19 11:32
DaemonFCThe two things that really dated the car were Rear Wheel Drive and a V8 that didn't exactly sip gas. Updating the platform to fix those issues seems really easy to me.Dec 19 11:32
DaemonFCLike · · Share · 2 seconds ago Dec 19 11:32
MinceRstrange, i would have expected their customers to get bigger, not smallerDec 19 11:38
MinceRmaybe they need an SUV or minivan to fit in now? :>Dec 19 11:38
MinceRor a truckDec 19 11:38
DaemonFCLOLDec 19 11:57
DaemonFCMinceR: I meant "fit their customer's preferences"Dec 19 11:57
DaemonFCBut yes, the obesity rate in the US has gotten worse since 1996. :)Dec 19 11:57
MinceR:)Dec 19 11:57
DaemonFCEverything here has gotten worse since 1996.Dec 19 11:57
DaemonFCThe United States economy hit its peak in the late 1990s.Dec 19 11:58
DaemonFC2000-2005 was "decent" to most people.Dec 19 11:58
DaemonFCAround 2006, it was in obvious decline for most people, and the bottom fell out in 2008, of course.Dec 19 11:58
DaemonFCObesity rates have gone up as household income has gone down.Dec 19 11:59
DaemonFCSome people figure that this is because cheap food is highly processed, and has more calories. I suppose that's a reasonable explanation.Dec 19 11:59
MinceRindeedDec 19 12:00
DaemonFCI don't think the economy was doing well in the 1990s because we had exceptionally good leadership in the public sector.Dec 19 12:00
DaemonFCIt was a number of factors that all came together at the same time.Dec 19 12:00
MinceRthere's also that lower income results in worse life, and eating is a way to make oneself a big happierDec 19 12:00
DaemonFCYeah. I try to cap the food budget at $7-8 per day.Dec 19 12:01
DaemonFCIn 2004, you could do well on $5 per day, but inflation has driven up food prices a lot.Dec 19 12:01
DaemonFCI've thrown out some of the things that were causing a huge drag on my monthly budget, like cable TV.Dec 19 12:02
DaemonFCI'm not alone there.Dec 19 12:03
DaemonFCCable TV has been losing about 1-2 million subscribers in the US each year for about the past 5 years.Dec 19 12:03
DaemonFCThat's not a bad thing though.Dec 19 12:04
DaemonFCYou have more money for stuff you need/want more, and it limits your exposure to bullshit by cutting off the direct bullshit pipeline of corporate news.Dec 19 12:04
DaemonFCSo, cutting off cable TV and getting tough on my ISP returned about $120 a month to my budget.Dec 19 12:05
DaemonFCThat was a welcome relief.Dec 19 12:06
MinceRs/big/bit/Dec 19 12:07
DaemonFCI canceled my AT&T cell phone plan.Dec 19 12:08
DaemonFCI ended up getting a much superior phone and plan from Sprint for less money per month.Dec 19 12:08
DaemonFCMinceR: The 4.6 V8 in my car actually gets decent gas mileage considering that it's a big V8 from the 1990s.Dec 19 12:09
DaemonFCI'm getting about 21 mpg on the highway.Dec 19 12:09
DaemonFCThat's not terrible.Dec 19 12:09
DaemonFCThe previous engine, the 5 liter V8 with the carburetor, really guzzled gas.  Dec 19 12:10
DaemonFCThat was the one that Ford stopped using in the 1992 model year.Dec 19 12:10
DaemonFChttp://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/noframes/8026.shtmlDec 19 12:11
DaemonFC11 city / 17 highway.Dec 19 12:11
TechrightsBot-trwww.fueleconomy.gov | Fuel Economy of the 1991 Ford LTD Crown VictoriaDec 19 12:11
DaemonFChttp://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/noframes/12885.shtmlDec 19 12:12
TechrightsBot-trwww.fueleconomy.gov | Fuel Economy of the 1996 Ford Crown Victoria  [ http://ur1.ca/g80iw ]Dec 19 12:12
DaemonFCThe EPA rated mine at 15 / 23.Dec 19 12:12
iophkhttp://linuxgizmos.com/2013-crowdfunded-linux-devices-update/Dec 19 12:13
TechrightsBot-trlinuxgizmos.com | Taking stock of 2013's crowdfunded Linux devices ·  LinuxGizmos.com  [ http://ur1.ca/g80j1 ]Dec 19 12:13
DaemonFChttp://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/noframes/30683.shtmlDec 19 12:13
TechrightsBot-trwww.fueleconomy.gov | Fuel Economy of the 2011 Ford Crown Victoria FFV  [ http://ur1.ca/g80j2 ]Dec 19 12:13
DaemonFCThe last time the gas mileage really improved much on the Crown Victoria was the 1992 model year.Dec 19 12:13
DaemonFCThe 2011 didn't do a lot better than the 1992.Dec 19 12:14
DaemonFC1 mpg improvement, pfft.Dec 19 12:14
DaemonFCSo, model year isn't a huge factor when you're considering gas mileage on that car.Dec 19 12:14
DaemonFCAnything after 1992 gets about the same mileage.Dec 19 12:14
DaemonFChttp://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080723085208AAaeoa1Dec 19 12:17
TechrightsBot-transwers.yahoo.com | What would happen if someone put e85 in a non-e85 vehicle?  [ http://ur1.ca/g80jj ]Dec 19 12:17
DaemonFCIf you did that by mistake, the best thing to do would just be to drive it until it's at about an eighth of a tank, and then refill on regular 87 octane gasoline.Dec 19 12:17
DaemonFCDoing it once shouldn't do much harm.Dec 19 12:17
DaemonFCIf you run it like that constantly, you'll have problems eventually.Dec 19 12:18
DaemonFCPeople were trying to use E85 in non-FFVs for a while because the economy sucked and gas prices rose above $4 a gallon.Dec 19 12:18
MinceRi don't think they sell 87 octane gasoline here at all :>Dec 19 12:18
MinceRit's just 95, 98, 99Dec 19 12:18
DaemonFCBut it's bad for the car, and you lose about 30% of your fuel mileage.Dec 19 12:18
DaemonFCSo it's really costing you more, even if your car can  run on it.Dec 19 12:19
DaemonFCMinceR: That's odd.Dec 19 12:19
DaemonFCHere, it's usually 87, 89, and 91.Dec 19 12:19
DaemonFCSome stations sell 93 or 94.Dec 19 12:19
DaemonFCIf you get out into the mountains in Colorado, you might see 86.Dec 19 12:20
DaemonFCRunning your car on 86 shouldn't hurt anything.Dec 19 12:20
DaemonFCI used to run mine on 86, because the station near my house offered it as "economy" gasoline.Dec 19 12:20
DaemonFCIt was usually 3-4 cents per gallon cheaper.Dec 19 12:21
DaemonFCThey got rid of it though, so I use 87 now.Dec 19 12:21
DaemonFCThe danger of using low octane gas is that your engine could start to knock and ping.Dec 19 12:21
MinceRi think they tend to recommend 95 here for everything that runs on gasDec 19 12:21
MinceRwe used 98 on our old crap commie imitation cars while we used themDec 19 12:22
MinceRnow 98 and 99 are extra-expensive special gas with special add-ons or whateverDec 19 12:22
DaemonFCWell, the PCM on cars of the last 20-25 years should be able to adjust the timing appropriately, to avoid knocks and pings.Dec 19 12:22
MinceRi wasn't really convinced they're worth the extra expenseDec 19 12:22
MinceRindeed.Dec 19 12:22
DaemonFCYou're really just wasting money if you use higher octane fuel than the manual recommends.Dec 19 12:22
MinceRi suspect the commie imitation cars couldn't adjust the timing at all.Dec 19 12:23
DaemonFCYou could.Dec 19 12:23
MinceRat least not automaticallyDec 19 12:23
DaemonFCYou had to do it manually though. If you're talking about cars with carburetors.Dec 19 12:23
DaemonFCThey had a timing screw.Dec 19 12:23
MinceRindeed.Dec 19 12:23
DaemonFCNew cars do it on the fly.Dec 19 12:24
DaemonFCI think they really should bring back 86 octane gas.Dec 19 12:24
DaemonFCIf it saves a nickel a gallon and modern cars run fine on it, why not sell it? :)Dec 19 12:24
DaemonFCIf you burn a tank of gas every week, that's $52 a year in savings.Dec 19 12:25
DaemonFCThat would help the economy, because each person would have an extra $52 to go spend on something that's not gasoline.Dec 19 12:25
DaemonFCWell, they do blend it with ethanol now.Dec 19 12:26
DaemonFCThe EPA is going to mandate 15% ethanol very soon.Dec 19 12:27
DaemonFCSo really, they probably are using 84 or 85 octane gas, and selling it as 87, because the ethanol brings up the octane rating.Dec 19 12:27
DaemonFCThe lady that I bought this car from told me that she always used 94 octane gas.Dec 19 12:28
DaemonFCI didn't have the heart to tell her that was a waste of money.Dec 19 12:28
DaemonFCShe was probably spending another $80-90 a year due to that.Dec 19 12:28
DaemonFChttp://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=33698Dec 19 12:29
TechrightsBot-trbugs.winehq.org | WineHQ Bugzilla – Bug 33698 – Opera Next 15.x and 18.x crashes on startup (native API sandboxing/hooking scheme incompatible with Wine)  [ http://ur1.ca/g80mz ]Dec 19 12:29
DaemonFCThis turned out to be an interesting bug.Dec 19 12:29
DaemonFCI reported it a while back.Dec 19 12:29
MinceRi think they do sell E85 hereDec 19 12:29
DaemonFCLater on, someone else posted this:Dec 19 12:30
MinceRnever used it, my car isn't designed for itDec 19 12:30
DaemonFC"In short: Opera Next seems to employ a process sandboxing scheme by low-level hooking several native API (Ntxxx) expecting NT-style entry point layout.Dec 19 12:30
DaemonFCThe way the hooking is done won't work for Wine."Dec 19 12:30
DaemonFCSo, is that something that Chromium is doing?Dec 19 12:30
DaemonFCProbably.Dec 19 12:30
DaemonFCThe Chromium sandbox on Windows is completely different than the one they use on GNU/Linux.Dec 19 12:30
MinceRthey developed crashe in an extremely winblows-centric mindset, without any foresightDec 19 12:31
MinceRand then they had to port it to other platformsDec 19 12:31
DaemonFCThat's interesting, that they're using the NT Native API.Dec 19 12:31
DaemonFCThat's almost totally (officially) undocumented.Dec 19 12:31
DaemonFCMost of what is known about it has been discovered without any help or official documentation from Microsoft.Dec 19 12:32
MinceRironically, even to chrome os and androidDec 19 12:32
MinceRwell, that's the way of the winblows developerDec 19 12:32
DaemonFCThe Mozilla platform was truly portable from the beginning.Dec 19 12:32
MinceRsince this fancy "documentation" thing isn't exactly well known to the folks at redmondDec 19 12:32
DaemonFCAt first, Google ONLY developed Chrome for Windows.Dec 19 12:32
MinceRi knowDec 19 12:32
DaemonFCThey only worried about porting it much later.Dec 19 12:33
MinceRand it was utterly stupid.Dec 19 12:33
DaemonFCSo they had to go back and redo a lot of the really fucking stupid things they did.Dec 19 12:33
DaemonFCMinceR: Microsoft didn't document it because they don't want people using it.Dec 19 12:33
MinceRindeedDec 19 12:33
MinceRthey don't want anyone but m$ developing software, everDec 19 12:34
MinceRif what they do can be called "developing", anywayDec 19 12:34
DaemonFCThey want people to develop software using Win32.Dec 19 12:34
MinceRno, they want people to depend on m$ for everything, including applicationsDec 19 12:36
DaemonFCFrom my Facebook wall:Dec 19 12:40
DaemonFC"I don't use Google Chrome because I think it's poorly designed and bloated, and because it's basically spyware."Dec 19 12:40
DaemonFCThe Republican Party is hostile to American values. I haven't met a Republican yet that wouldn't give more water to a drowning man.Dec 19 12:57
DaemonFCLike · · Share · 2 seconds ago Dec 19 12:57
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iophkhttp://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2320057/microsoft-wipes-off-shoddy-surface-pro-2-updateDec 19 14:36
TechrightsBot-trwww.theinquirer.net | Microsoft wipes off shoddy Surface Pro 2 update- The Inquirer  [ http://ur1.ca/g816r ]Dec 19 14:36
iophksame old qualityDec 19 14:36
Sosumichrome IS spyware, since all the traffic is routed through googleDec 19 14:46
iophkhttp://www.opera.com/help/mini/faqDec 19 14:47
TechrightsBot-trwww.opera.com | Opera Mini FAQ - Opera SoftwareDec 19 14:47
iophk"our servers do most of the work"Dec 19 14:47
Sosumialso, the buttplug pro aka new mac proDec 19 14:47
Sosumimaxes at aprox 10000€Dec 19 14:47
Sosumifor the same price you can get a HP Zxxx workstation many more ram slots and dual cpuDec 19 14:48
Sosumiofc maxedDec 19 14:48
Sosumia be able to to replace componentsDec 19 14:49
Sosuminot to mention on site warranty for the 1st year plus 2 more yearsDec 19 14:49
Sosumiwith crapple it's just 1 year, unless you buy an extensionDec 19 14:50
iophkhttp://9to5mac.com/2013/06/12/apple-changes-warranty-policy-in-belgium-to-offer-two-years-protection/Dec 19 14:50
TechrightsBot-tr9to5mac.com | Apple changes wording of warranty policy in EU to clarify two year guarantee  | 9to5Mac  [ http://ur1.ca/g818m ]Dec 19 14:50
Sosumigood luck with thatDec 19 14:51
iophkhttp://www.tomshardware.com/news/Apple-Warranty-EU-year-change,23072.htmlDec 19 14:51
TechrightsBot-trwww.tomshardware.com | Apple Forced to Change Warranty Policies for New Laws  [ http://ur1.ca/g818o ]Dec 19 14:51
Sosumithey still say 1 year in the portuguese storeDec 19 14:51
Sosumiand the last time I talked to a representativeDec 19 14:51
iophk2 years is required by the EUDec 19 14:51
Sosumi2 years only applies if you buy from a resellerDec 19 14:52
Sosumiif you from their online store it's 1 yearDec 19 14:52
Sosumi*buyDec 19 14:52
Sosumiso, I'll have to say, good luck with that :)Dec 19 14:53
iophkyep the store still says 1-year warrantyDec 19 14:53
Sosumiand good luck for the folks in which their custom ssd dies and they don't have a warrantyDec 19 14:54
Sosumithey'll probably have to shovel 900 to 1000€ for the part + installationDec 19 14:55
Sosumiwhen normal off the shelf SSDs come with warranties all the way to 7 yearsDec 19 14:55
Sosumiso PC + GNU/Linux is the wise choice for bleeding edge and not getting screwed into money extortion schemesDec 19 14:56
Sosumi*inDec 19 14:57
Sosuminot into :)Dec 19 14:57
Sosumiwhat I might end up ordering are two 4k displaysDec 19 14:58
Sosumibut not the sharp ones, those don't have HDMI here in the EUDec 19 14:58
MinceRwhat do they have? DP? DVI?Dec 19 14:59
SosumiDPDec 19 14:59
MinceRicDec 19 14:59
MinceRthat's a bummerDec 19 14:59
Sosumitotal bummer, because my current GPUs only have a single DPDec 19 15:00
SosumiDP, hdmi and two DVIDec 19 15:00
Sosumiplus the HDMI could end up being used by some other device, like when I get a friend come in for some project and he brings his console, etcDec 19 15:01
MinceRdoes your GPU have plain DP or DP++?Dec 19 15:01
Sosumichecking...Dec 19 15:02
Sosumigtx titanDec 19 15:02
Sosumiit's DP 1.2Dec 19 15:03
MinceRthat seems to be orthogonal to DP++ (dual-mode DP)Dec 19 15:05
Sosumi1 - 3840x2160 at 30Hz or 4096x2160 at 24Hz supported over HDMI. 4096x2160 (including 3840x2160) at 60Hz supported over Displayport. Support for 4k tiled MST displays requires 326.19 driver or later.Dec 19 15:05
Sosumifrom nvidia websiteDec 19 15:05
MinceRanyway, if it can do dual-mode DP, then that too can be used to drive DVI/HDMI displays with a simple converterDec 19 15:05
Sosumionly 4k at 60Hz with DPDec 19 15:06
Sosumiand yes I threw the bomb at both Tim Cook and Phill Schiller's twitterDec 19 15:13
Sosumiwith that "special" pictureDec 19 15:13
Sosumiand they're still there in the mentionsDec 19 15:14
Sosumi32 min and countingDec 19 15:14
SosumiLeslie Libal @aWaRLoCK666Dec 19 15:15
Sosumi@tim_cook My order for the 6 Core NMP was placed around 5AM CST USA 12.19.13 and it indicates a delivery date of Jan. 3rd!!  Thanks!Dec 19 15:15
Sosumihe thanked! even through he's the one forking the moneyDec 19 15:16
Sosumitypical mactardDec 19 15:16
MinceR:>Dec 19 15:20
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DaemonFChttp://ur1.ca/g81fqDec 19 15:43
TechrightsBot-trpaste.fedoraproject.org | #63223 • Fedora Project PastebinDec 19 15:43
DaemonFC2 minutes agoDec 19 15:43
DaemonFCAnd nowhere does the bible say "Love the sinner, hate the sin.". And I dare you to find where it does, and show me that.Dec 19 15:43
DaemonFCThat's something that ignorant people made up so that they could be a jerk and insult other people, and then cover themselves.Dec 19 15:44
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schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3426167Dec 19 16:29
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Schneier has indeed just quit #bt (which gives back doors to #nsa on the face of it)  http://www.bit-tech.net/news/hardware/2013/12/17/bt-back-door/1 http://www.trustedreviews.com/news/bt-modems-contain-nsa-back-doors-according-to-new-researchDec 19 16:29
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.bit-tech.net | BT modems have NSA back-door, claim researchers | bit-tech.net  [ http://ur1.ca/g7ws3 ]Dec 19 16:29
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.trustedreviews.com | Do BT modems really contain NSA back-doors? - News - Trusted Reviews  [ http://ur1.ca/g7ws4 ]Dec 19 16:29
schestowitz__"Dec 19 16:29
schestowitz__A "router" just another computer the telco makes you pay for. As that computer becomes more powerful, it can betray you in worse ways. I would not be surprised to learn that routers are front line censorship and spy devices. The "porn" filter might be right in your house.Dec 19 16:29
schestowitz__Andy Vandervell just made a tool of himself.Dec 19 16:29
schestowitz__"Dec 19 16:29
schestowitz__"Check out " DD-WRT" and similar router firmware replacements. Back Door GONE"Dec 19 16:29
schestowitz__"also.... check out " http://www.flashrouters.com/ " Problem solved!!!"Dec 19 16:29
TechrightsBot-trwww.flashrouters.com | FlashRouters – DD-WRT & Tomato Routers, VPN Security SolutionsDec 19 16:29
schestowitz__"Don't forget Librewrt, which is free software without blobs."Dec 19 16:29
schestowitz__"isn't this what we are discussing the proof that the internet is broken ?"Dec 19 16:29
schestowitz__Is it worth phoning up BT technical support and report to them that my router has a back doors and I would like it to be closed?Dec 19 16:30
iophkhttp://www.dd-wrt.com/Dec 19 16:30
iophkhttps://openwrt.org/Dec 19 16:30
TechrightsBot-trwww.dd-wrt.com | www.dd-wrt.com | Unleash Your RouterDec 19 16:30
TechrightsBot-tropenwrt.org | OpenWrtDec 19 16:30
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3425826Dec 19 16:30
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: ### *Promote what you love...*Dec 19 16:30
schestowitz__"What's the use of a free network if we censor ourselves?"Dec 19 16:30
schestowitz__iophk: but will BT allow it?Dec 19 16:31
schestowitz__They say the router is theirsDec 19 16:31
schestowitz__and they'd refuse to let it work without their firmwareDec 19 16:31
iophkLeased routers?Dec 19 16:31
schestowitz__yeahDec 19 16:31
schestowitz__Home HubDec 19 16:31
iophkWould they let a 3rd party router run if home users went out and bought one?Dec 19 16:31
schestowitz__doubt itDec 19 16:32
schestowitz__I would have to checkDec 19 16:32
iophkWorth checking the details.Dec 19 16:32
schestowitz__but I know people who have several hubsDec 19 16:32
schestowitz__I have two from BTDec 19 16:32
schestowitz__and BT would probably only support those who use its hubDec 19 16:32
schestowitz__it's not a generic oneDec 19 16:32
iophkprobably can be fakedDec 19 16:32
schestowitz__!google bt home hubDec 19 16:33
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Wireless router from BT | BT Home Hub 4 with BT Infinity | http://www.productsandservices.bt.com/products/broadband/wireless-hub-routerDec 19 16:33
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - BT Home Hub - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BT_Home_HubDec 19 16:33
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - How can I change the admin password on my BT Home Hub? | Help ... | http://bt.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/10990Dec 19 16:33
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - BT Home Hub security advice | Help | BT.com Help | http://bt.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/10490Dec 19 16:33
Sosumihttp://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Steam+Machine+Teardown/20473Dec 19 16:33
TechrightsBot-trwww.ifixit.com | Steam Machine Teardown - iFixit  [ http://ur1.ca/g81n7 ]Dec 19 16:33
Sosumilooks awesomeDec 19 16:33
iophk802.11ac might be difficult with an open router.Dec 19 16:33
iophkThe "Home Hub" no longer has ADSL, right?  It's just ethernet straight to the wall?Dec 19 16:34
schestowitz__[14:46] <Sosumi> chrome IS spyware, since all the traffic is routed through googleDec 19 16:35
schestowitz__Is it?Dec 19 16:35
schestowitz__requests?Dec 19 16:35
schestowitz__or traffic?Dec 19 16:35
schestowitz__iophk: no, it's a mixDec 19 16:35
Sosumihttp://blog.nektra.com/main/2008/10/15/the-truth-about-google-chrome-using-spy-studio/Dec 19 16:37
TechrightsBot-trblog.nektra.com | The truth about Google Chrome using Spy Studio | Nektra Advanced Computing Blog  [ http://ur1.ca/g81np ]Dec 19 16:37
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schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3426167Dec 19 17:21
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Schneier has indeed just quit #bt (which gives back doors to #nsa on the face of it)  http://www.bit-tech.net/news/hardware/2013/12/17/bt-back-door/1 http://www.trustedreviews.com/news/bt-modems-contain-nsa-back-doors-according-to-new-researchDec 19 17:21
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.bit-tech.net | BT modems have NSA back-door, claim researchers | bit-tech.net  [ http://ur1.ca/g7ws3 ]Dec 19 17:21
schestowitz__"<b>there is nothing better than phoning up a monopolistic bastard and start a rant :D</b>"Dec 19 17:21
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.trustedreviews.com | Do BT modems really contain NSA back-doors? - News - Trusted Reviews  [ http://ur1.ca/g7ws4 ]Dec 19 17:21
schestowitz__"Dec 19 17:22
schestowitz__there is nothing better than phoning up a monopolistic bastard and start a rant :DDec 19 17:22
schestowitz__I have spent countless hours on the phone with ISP-s , arguing over and over again with their robot-like "technicians" , over issues that were far less important than the one you'd like to bring up in this call .Dec 19 17:22
schestowitz__Those hours spent on the phone helped a lot in building of my zen , so I am totally voting "yes" for you .Dec 19 17:22
schestowitz__p.m. my favorite call was definitely to ask if they could turn on ipv6 for me on the "ipv6 day" . it took them (Deutche Telekom) about ten minutes to answer me that hell they don't have a clue what is ipv6 :DDec 19 17:22
schestowitz__"Dec 19 17:22
schestowitz__LOLDec 19 17:22
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schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3429830Dec 19 17:36
schestowitz__"Fidgeting with brand names masks the fact that all non free software violates the user. Windows is special even within that category."Dec 19 17:36
TechrightsBot-trNot a Diaspora post?Dec 19 17:37
schestowitz__"isn't FUD the only original microsoft's invention ?"Dec 19 17:37
schestowitz__No, patent racketeering with NDAs is what Microsoft  is renowned for pioneering in 2006 with NovellDec 19 17:38
iophkFUD was invented by IBM, AFAIK.  But M$ has taken it to heart and brought it to a whole new level.Dec 19 17:38
schestowitz__vyeahDec 19 17:39
schestowitz__progressive patent extotionDec 19 17:39
schestowitz__IBM also used patent extortionDec 19 17:39
schestowitz__!google ibm sun patentsDec 19 17:39
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Patently Absurd - Forbes.com | http://www.forbes.com/asap/2002/0624/044.htmlDec 19 17:39
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Sun Microsystems inc. - software patents wiki (en.swpat.org) | http://en.swpat.org/wiki/Sun_Microsystems_inc.Dec 19 17:39
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Why The Oracle Java Patents Were Literally A Joke Played By Sun ... | http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100817/00061910645.shtmlDec 19 17:39
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Microsoft's Android Shakedown: IBM Did It First - OSNews | http://www.osnews.com/story/24987/Microsoft_s_Android_Shakedown_IBM_Did_It_FirstDec 19 17:39
iophkhttp://www.catb.org/jargon/html/F/FUD.htmlDec 19 17:39
TechrightsBot-trwww.catb.org | FUD  [ http://ur1.ca/g81ws ]Dec 19 17:39
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3430977Dec 19 17:40
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Microsoft and Apple are fighting over users ($). Free software fights for the users.Dec 19 17:40
schestowitz__"Microsoft and Apple fight for government, and government fights for us, right? ;) So it is ALMOST the same hehehe. Sorry ;)"Dec 19 17:40
schestowitz__Government is derives its power from corporations and their headsDec 19 17:40
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3430982Dec 19 17:41
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The Golden rule http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2319871/hp-gives-ceo-a-usd15m-pay-rise-amid-worldwide-layoffsDec 19 17:41
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.theinquirer.net | HP gives CEO a $1.5m pay rise amid worldwide layoffs- The Inquirer  [ http://ur1.ca/g806y ]Dec 19 17:41
schestowitz__"This is great quote "Let them eat cakes" :)"Dec 19 17:41
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3424673Dec 19 17:41
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "System update downloaded. Touch to install." Google has modified my system remotely and silently for second time in 3 weeks. Can't refuse.Dec 19 17:41
schestowitz__"Time to flash it and take back control?"Dec 19 17:41
schestowitz__Waiting for Replicant to come out for my deviceDec 19 17:41
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3427516Dec 19 17:46
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Fedora 21 Likely Switching To Hawkey Package Management http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTU0NjM #fedora #gnu #linuxDec 19 17:46
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.phoronix.com | [Phoronix] Fedora 21 Likely Switching To Hawkey Package Management  [ http://ur1.ca/g81xt ]Dec 19 17:46
schestowitz__"Dec 19 17:48
schestowitz__So ... this is still based on the RPM package format, but has different dependency-resolving methods?Dec 19 17:48
schestowitz__My experience with RPM (long, though minimized to the extent possible) leaves me with a few observations:Dec 19 17:48
schestowitz__    The dependency on a specific binary format (as opposed to DEBs which are a structure of tar, gzip, and ar) means that specific tools are required to unpack the packages. Though this isn't typically an issue, there are times it works against the model.Dec 19 17:48
schestowitz__    Dependency resolution in general is poorer than APT/DEB-based systems. Mandriva presents an interesting contrast (RPM package format, APT package management).Dec 19 17:48
schestowitz__    The real problem with RPM isn't the package management tools. It's the lack of a coherent policy governing packages. And among the worst offenders is Red Hat itself.Dec 19 17:48
schestowitz__Improving the file formats and technical procedures is lipstick on a pig until policy can be addressed.Dec 19 17:48
schestowitz__"Dec 19 17:48
schestowitz__"Dec 19 17:48
schestowitz__""...lipstick on a pig"!!!!!! awesome, and true."Dec 19 17:48
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schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3425918Dec 19 17:50
schestowitz__"Some people have to personally suffer to understand an injustice. That's a hard way to learn, but I'm happy for them to get it."Dec 19 17:50
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Merkel compared NSA to Stasi in heated encounter with Obama http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/dec/17/merkel-compares-nsa-stasi-obama she only cares about herself.Dec 19 17:50
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.theguardian.com | Merkel compared NSA to Stasi in heated encounter with Obama | World news | The Guardian  [ http://ur1.ca/g81yk ]Dec 19 17:50
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3393774Dec 19 17:51
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: USSR remembered: assassinating people abroad makes CIA no better than KGB https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7j4SWr9BsCUDec 19 17:51
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.youtube.com | Inside the KGB: Terror of the Soviet Union | History Documentary - YouTube  [ http://ur1.ca/g63hp ]Dec 19 17:51
schestowitz__"I'd say the CIA was more efficient rather than better or worse. The US got what it wanted with less effort. The Indonesian story is probably the worst I've heard so far and is precisely what people feared from Soviet autocracy. Note that Bush senior was also the head of the CIA. All of it is bumbling, incompetent murder for the sake of someone's economic advantage."Dec 19 17:51
iophkhttp://variety.com/2013/film/news/library-of-congress-only-14-of-u-s-silent-films-survive-1200915020/Dec 19 17:57
TechrightsBot-trvariety.com | Library of Congress: 75% of Silent Films Lost   | Variety  [ http://ur1.ca/g81ze ]Dec 19 17:57
iophkhttp://www.usatoday.com/story/life/movies/2013/12/04/silent-films-lost/3866383/Dec 19 17:57
TechrightsBot-trwww.usatoday.com | Study: Most silent films have been lost  [ http://ur1.ca/g81zk ]Dec 19 17:57
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MinceRhttp://static.mellbimbo.eu/files/2013/12/19/1279985-20131217-78zzXP.jpgDec 19 20:05
Sosumithey can also whistle nuclear launch codesDec 19 20:08
Sosumibeware of the evil hackersDec 19 20:08
MinceR:)Dec 19 20:10
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Sosumihttp://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-57614840-93/micropayments-mega-angst-and-the-future-of-console-games/Dec 19 20:53
TechrightsBot-trnews.cnet.com | Micropayments, mega angst, and the future of console games | Internet & Media - CNET News  [ http://ur1.ca/g82kn ]Dec 19 20:53
Sosumiin layman terms, it's called milking your customersDec 19 20:54
Sosumithank M$ for that, since they were the first to come to the market with DLC when they launched the xbox 360 back in 2005Dec 19 20:55
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Sosumianyone has info on what Bruce Schneier uses?Dec 19 21:16
Sosumito do is computingDec 19 21:16
Sosumi*hisDec 19 21:16
iophkI think he may have sold out.Dec 19 21:17
iophk"Although he concedes that he uses Windows..."Dec 19 21:18
iophkhttp://www.esecurityplanet.com/trends/security-tips-from-bruce-schneier.htmlDec 19 21:18
TechrightsBot-trwww.esecurityplanet.com | Security Tips from Bruce Schneier - eSecurity Planet  [ http://ur1.ca/g82ss ]Dec 19 21:18
iophkespecially telling is this part, "he is quick to add that he considers all operating systems essentially equal from a security standpoint"Dec 19 21:19
Sosumibut doesn't he run his own DNS and mail server?Dec 19 21:21
SosumiI remember him lambasting at defcon 17 about thatDec 19 21:21
iophkSomeone may have gotten to him since then.Dec 19 21:21
Sosumiof ppl not running their own infastrocture and putting their data into google and facebook, etcDec 19 21:22
Sosumidefcon 17 = 2009Dec 19 21:22
iophkOk sometime between 2009 and 2012 something may have happened.Dec 19 21:22
Sosumior probably he doesn't deserve the high regard he usually getsDec 19 21:26
iophkHe did a lot of advanced stuff some years ago, that still carries weight and deserves credit.Dec 19 21:28
iophkBut he may have drifted since.Dec 19 21:29
iophk"I'm still primarily on Windows, unfortunately. Linux would be safer."Dec 19 21:41
iophkhttp://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/05/nsa-how-to-remain-secure-surveillanceDec 19 21:41
TechrightsBot-trwww.theguardian.com | NSA surveillance: how to stay secure | Bruce Schneier | World news | theguardian.com  [ http://ur1.ca/fe8cc ]Dec 19 21:41
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Sosumihttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9K5I8SIwoMDec 19 22:24
TechrightsBot-trwww.youtube.com | Glenn Greenwald, NSA Documents & Checkbook Journalism - BFP Roundtable #02 - YouTube  [ http://ur1.ca/g831z ]Dec 19 22:24
Sosumiposted on twitter under the title: Did Greenwald sell out?Dec 19 22:24
schestowitz__xhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/3426229Dec 19 22:28
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: It's not about pr0n; these days, "pr0n" just means anything the government (or corporation) does not approve http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2319277/bt-will-automatically-block-porn-for-new-customersDec 19 22:28
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.theinquirer.net | BT will automatically block porn for new customers- The Inquirer  [ http://ur1.ca/g7gg1 ]Dec 19 22:29
schestowitz__"This is a powerful form of censorship. It makes something valuable from the most common of commodities - nudity and sex. Government can then reward favored people with a license to sell it, such as a broadcasting license, or links to smut. It also smears those who are censored. People who resist censorship are smeared as perverts. Works that are censored are likewise slandered. It is absolutely amazing that people would allow this."Dec 19 22:29
schestowitz__[22:27] <s-989> @matthew_d_green  'Dual EC_DRBG was suspiciously absent fromDec 19 22:29
schestowitz__[22:27] <s-989> retweeted by    Wednesday's report by President Obama's NSADec 19 22:29
schestowitz__[22:27] <s-989> @csoghoian      advisory panel.' http://t.co/SreeTWAWUiDec 19 22:29
TechrightsBot-trarstechnica.com | NSA’s broken Dual_EC random number generator has a “fatal bug” in OpenSSL | Ars TechnicaDec 19 22:29
schestowitz__[22:27] <s-989> ........................................  http://ur1.ca/g832gDec 19 22:29
TechrightsBot-tr@matthew_d_green: 'Dual EC_DRBG was suspiciously absent from Wednesday's report by President Obama's NSA advisory panel.' http://t.co/SreeTWAWUiDec 19 22:29
TechrightsBot-tr  (Re-tweeted by csoghoian)Dec 19 22:29
schestowitz__[22:26] <s-989> @piersmorgan     Edward Snowden should be granted an amnesty,Dec 19 22:30
schestowitz__[22:26] <s-989> retweeted by    given the unprecedented #NSA recommendationsDec 19 22:30
schestowitz__[22:26] <s-989> @davidgerard    announced today. He was right.Dec 19 22:30
MinceRso, did any non-fascist isp-s remain in the uk?Dec 19 22:31
schestowitz__noDec 19 22:35
schestowitz__I wonder the same thing sometimesDec 19 22:35
schestowitz__They work closely to the government ]Dec 19 22:35
schestowitz__look up NTLDec 19 22:35
schestowitz__There's like a cartel here in banksDec 19 22:35
schestowitz__They say they use the SAME CENTAL SYSTEMDec 19 22:35
schestowitz__and same with telecomDec 19 22:36
schestowitz__only illusion of competition, you choose between brands on a common infrastructure... welcome to 'free' marketDec 19 22:36
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iophkhttp://www.techrepublic.com/blog/linux-and-open-source/five-reasons-why-the-ubuntu-tablet-could-shock-naysayers-in-2014/Dec 20 08:11
TechrightsBot-trwww.techrepublic.com | Five reasons why the Ubuntu tablet could shock naysayers in 2014 - TechRepublic  [ http://ur1.ca/g84xc ]Dec 20 08:11
iophkhttp://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/12/former-cia-chief-snowden-should-be-hanged-by-the-neck-until-dead/Dec 20 08:12
TechrightsBot-trarstechnica.com | Former CIA chief: Snowden should be “hanged by the neck until dead” | Ars Technica  [ http://ur1.ca/g838s ]Dec 20 08:12
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iophkStrange, no mention of the Lemote Yeeloong which gained endorsement quite a while ago, back in 2009 or so.Dec 20 08:29
iophkhttp://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTU0NzgDec 20 08:29
TechrightsBot-trwww.phoronix.com | [Phoronix] Free Software Foundation Endorses Its First  Laptop  [ http://ur1.ca/g84ze ]Dec 20 08:29
MinceRindeedDec 20 09:13
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iophkhttp://rt.com/usa/aclu-nsa-santa-claus-328/Dec 20 09:57
TechrightsBot-trrt.com | 'You better watch out, You better not Skype': ACLU launches hilarious anti-NSA campaign — RT USA  [ http://ur1.ca/g85b4 ]Dec 20 09:57
MinceRlolDec 20 10:02
MinceRhttps://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/996699_725834494104231_1983859111_n.jpgDec 20 10:02
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mimcohi everyoneDec 20 10:15
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mimco_howdy pplDec 20 10:21
mimco_how r u allDec 20 10:21
mimco_where all da geeks atDec 20 10:21
mimco_what upDec 20 10:21
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msb_Hello folks!Dec 20 10:31
msb_I think I've figured out how to save humanity.Dec 20 10:31
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msb_We know about the left-brain -- linear, digital, logical (ideally).  It's normally in control.Dec 20 10:34
msb_The right-brain -- holistic, empathic, lyrical -- is usually suppressed by the left-brain, except when we're dreaming.Dec 20 10:35
msb_Left-brain dominance results in pandemic psychopathy, mass murder (":war"), and the danger of self-extinction of humankind.Dec 20 10:36
msb_A scientist named Tony Wright has written extensively about this -- http://disinfo.com/2012/04/planthuman-symbiosis-and-the-fall-of-humanity-interview-with-tony-wright/Dec 20 10:36
TechrightsBot-trdisinfo.com | Plant/Human Symbiosis and the Fall of Humanity: Interview With Tony Wright - disinformation  [ http://ur1.ca/g241t ]Dec 20 10:37
msb_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5yXK2n82lgDec 20 10:38
TechrightsBot-trwww.youtube.com | 'An investigation into the evolution of the human brain'   by Tony Wright - YouTube  [ http://ur1.ca/g241y ]Dec 20 10:38
msb_http://www.leftinthedark.org.uk/bookDec 20 10:39
TechrightsBot-trwww.leftinthedark.org.uk | Book | Left in the DarkDec 20 10:39
msb_Wright concludes that both brain lobes used to be in balance, but when we left arboreal life and moved to grasslands (savannahs) we lost most of the fruit bioflavonoids in our diet, which had had important epigenetic effects on brain development and operation.Dec 20 10:41
msb_This led to left-brain dominance, hierarchical dominator culture, and pandemic psychopathy -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKqs7GJ0jdYDec 20 10:48
TechrightsBot-trwww.youtube.com | Psychopathy in Politics and Finance - Stefan Verstappen on GRTV - YouTube  [ http://ur1.ca/g85hq ]Dec 20 10:48
msb_http://www.riseearth.com/2013/12/how-to-induce-lucid-dreaming.htmlDec 20 10:50
TechrightsBot-trwww.riseearth.com | How to Induce Lucid Dreaming ~ RiseEarth  [ http://ur1.ca/g85i6 ]Dec 20 10:50
msb_Lucid dreaming is the waking up of the left-brain while we're dreaming (a state in which the right-brain is normally in control).Dec 20 10:51
iophkAgain, there is no "left" brain / "right" brain dichotomy as you are describing it.  A trip to the university library to check out a neurobiology text will show that. Dec 20 10:52
msb_There are various methods of inducing lucid dreaming, many of which involve noticing clues in the dream about rationality and left-brain (linear) awareness.Dec 20 10:52
msb_Sorry iophk.  Please read Wright's book, and begin by reading his interview and watching his video, linked above.Dec 20 10:53
iophkNo.Dec 20 10:53
iophkLeft-right has been debunked long ago,Dec 20 10:54
iophkIt was pop-pschology and is passed.Dec 20 10:54
iophkpastDec 20 10:54
msb_If you never access information that disagrees with what you already believe, you will never learn anything new.Dec 20 10:54
iophkIt's not a matter of disagreement it is a matter of wrong.Dec 20 10:54
iophkLucid dreaming is a valid technique.  It just that the explanation is different.Dec 20 10:55
msb_Anyhow, to continue, I think the solution for humankind's problem is to awaken the right-brain during waking hours, when the left-brain is dominant.Dec 20 10:55
iophkI took the time to look that stuff up long ago.  Do the courtesy to do the same.Dec 20 10:56
iophkfaux science is a pox.Dec 20 10:56
iophkIt's not about agree or disagree it is about what can be proven.Dec 20 10:56
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msb_One way to do this is to look for hints of right-brain operation -- associations, emotions, empathy, lyrical thoughts -- and follow and enhance them.  This is analogous to the methods of achieving lucid dreaming.Dec 20 10:57
msb_Nutritional methods are also necessary -- adding bioflavonoids to the diet -- I've been taking 1 gram of citrus bioflavonoids per day for several weeks,Dec 20 10:58
msb_(Nature's Plus) along with Pomegranate extract (Nature's Way).Dec 20 11:00
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msb_Also the full spectrum of B-vitamins, lipids, minerals, etc.Dec 20 11:00
msb_Also, avoid all fluoride intake.  Drink distilled water (with minerals added) if your tapwater is fluoridated.  Dec 20 11:01
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3432216Dec 20 11:01
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: New attack steals e-mail decryption keys by capturing computer sounds http://aviationrecord.com/technology-22/new-attack-steals-e-mail-decryption-keys-by-capturing-computer-sounds-454.html but this is generally known as password breakerDec 20 11:01
TechrightsBot-tr-> aviationrecord.com | New attack steals e-mail decryption keys by capturing computer sounds  [ http://ur1.ca/g85k0 ]Dec 20 11:01
schestowitz__"Really, I thought they were actually getting the private key by the noise made by various components during decryption. That's really far out, but the story seems real."Dec 20 11:01
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3432081Dec 20 11:02
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The Genius Of Linux Is Community, Not Technology http://readwrite.com/2013/12/19/the-genius-of-linux-is-community-not-technology #linux #gnuDec 20 11:02
TechrightsBot-tr-> readwrite.com | The Genius Of Linux Is Community, Not Technology – ReadWrite  [ http://ur1.ca/g85k3 ]Dec 20 11:02
schestowitz__"Read Write web telling us that using GNU/Linux on a "desktop" is impossible again? What idiots."Dec 20 11:02
schestowitz__That's AsayDec 20 11:02
msb_Fluoride calcifies the pineal gland, which otherwise secretes melatonin and probably DMT -- both very important for Consciousness.Dec 20 11:02
schestowitz__[10:52] <iophk> Again, there is no "left" brain / "right" brain dichotomy as you are describing it.  A trip to the university library to check out a neurobiology text will show that. Dec 20 11:03
schestowitz__In MRI scans you cannot distinguish one from the otherDec 20 11:03
schestowitz__There are very few asymmetries in the body, e.g. lung-heartDec 20 11:04
schestowitz__!google polar bears right handedDec 20 11:04
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Myths and Misconceptions | Polar Bears International | http://www.polarbearsinternational.org/about-polar-bears/essentials/myths-and-misconceptionsDec 20 11:04
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Are Polar Bears Right or Left Handed - Ask.com | http://www.ask.com/question/are-polar-bears-right-or-left-handedDec 20 11:04
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Polar bear - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polar_bearDec 20 11:04
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Is it true that polar bears are left-handed? Why? - Fun Trivia | http://www.funtrivia.com/askft/Question65466.htmlDec 20 11:04
msb_Injury to the left or right lobe has very different effects.Dec 20 11:04
schestowitz__!google ring finger connected to heart mythDec 20 11:05
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Vena amoris - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vena_amorisDec 20 11:05
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Does your left ring finger's vein really go directly to the heart, or - Ask ... | http://www.ask.com/answers/382204101/does-your-left-ring-finger-s-vein-really-go-directly-to-the-heart-or-is-that-just-an-ancient-mythDec 20 11:05
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - The wedding ring goes on the left ring finger, because it's… - Google+ | https://plus.google.com/109930407118434941696/posts/fG2sEDYvwNtDec 20 11:05
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - The Wedding Ring - snopes.com | http://message.snopes.com/showthread.php%3Ft%3D33002Dec 20 11:05
schestowitz__"Great white bears are not left-pawed. Scientists observing the animals haven't noticed a preference. In fact, polar bears seem to use their right and left paws equally."Dec 20 11:05
msb_As to Linux, it certainly has fulfilled its promise as an excellent desktop OS.Dec 20 11:05
schestowitz__depends how it's measuredDec 20 11:05
schestowitz__if by money/# of users, then not so muchDec 20 11:05
schestowitz__if in terms of freedom, not so muchDec 20 11:06
msb_The only reason it isn't dominant is Microsoft's extensive criminal war against it.Dec 20 11:06
schestowitz__as many use a non so freedom-respecting freedomDec 20 11:06
schestowitz__msb_: yesDec 20 11:06
msb_http://cosmicpenguin.com/linux/MICROSOFTS_WAR_AGAINST_LINUX.htmlDec 20 11:06
TechrightsBot-trcosmicpenguin.com | MICROSOFT'S WAR AGAINST LINUX  [ http://ur1.ca/6f05a ]Dec 20 11:06
schestowitz__but then again, that's just desktops we speak ofDec 20 11:06
schestowitz__Not serveraDec 20 11:06
schestowitz__and not phones, which are a bigger market (as per unit)Dec 20 11:06
schestowitz__and tablets now grow in numbers faster than laptopsDec 20 11:07
schestowitz__their freedom violation is different in natureDec 20 11:07
schestowitz__phones=spyingDec 20 11:07
schestowitz__tablets='app' stores (proprietary)Dec 20 11:07
msb_I dumped Microsoft in the year 2000, and have never looked back, nor had any reason to.Dec 20 11:07
schestowitz__desktops=other issuesDec 20 11:07
schestowitz__then you have binary-only drivers and other issuesDec 20 11:07
iophklemote had a Free netbook for a while: http://www.fsf.org/bulletin/2009/spring/free-software-laptopsDec 20 11:08
TechrightsBot-trwww.fsf.org | Free software laptops — Free Software Foundation — working together for free software  [ http://ur1.ca/g85l0 ]Dec 20 11:08
msb_I use a binary driver for my NVidia graphics card, but it works fine.Dec 20 11:08
iophkno binary drivers needed or other blobsDec 20 11:08
MinceRexcellent != widespreadDec 20 11:08
msb_Overcoming the influence of Microsoft's lies requires critical thinking, which is discouraged by JCI religion, our educational system, corporate media, etc.Dec 20 11:10
msb_Most people don't do it, so they stay with Microshit.Dec 20 11:10
iophkThe OEMs are the great barrier.  Get Linux on the shelves in the stores and people will buy it and happily use it.Dec 20 11:10
msb_I include laptops with desktops.Dec 20 11:10
msb_And of course Linux is better for servers, phones, tablets, supercomputers, etc.Dec 20 11:11
msb_Microsoft is the division of the New World Order (global fascism) that controls computing (or tries to).  See my website http://cosmicpenguin.com for info on the NWO.Dec 20 11:13
TechrightsBot-trcosmicpenguin.com | Human Society That Works For EveryoneDec 20 11:13
msb_I think the NWO is finally being overcome by the World Community, which interconnects via the Net, and had much of its start from the Linux Community and the GPL.Dec 20 11:15
msb_Obomber's recent attempt to destroy Syria by doing a false-flag attack using the Al-Nusrah division of Al-CIA-duh and claiming these invaders were Syrian dissidents, failed, because the truth was broadcast via the Net.Dec 20 11:17
msb_I think the truth was first revealed on this excellent news and analysis site -- http://www.globalresearch.ca/Dec 20 11:18
TechrightsBot-trwww.globalresearch.ca | Global ResearchDec 20 11:18
msb_For whatever reasons, the Axis of Evil -- U.S., Israel, and England -- can't just up and kill all the dissidents exposing the fascist control of the world by ultrawealthy psychopaths.Dec 20 11:21
msb_Dear Goddess, we may yet survive!Dec 20 11:22
msb_And become an enlightened civilization worthy to join the Galactic Federation (or at least the local branch of it).Dec 20 11:23
msb_We may now be passing through the point of maximum dynamic pressure on our society, analogous to the one in rocket travel -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_QDec 20 11:29
TechrightsBot-tren.wikipedia.org | Max Q - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaDec 20 11:29
msb_Nibiru/Planet X seems to have been a no-show.  Unless we get whacked by a GRB or CME, or the ultra-psychopaths start a nuclear war, we should be OK.Dec 20 11:30
msb_This may be the most important moment in human history -- the turning point.Dec 20 11:31
MinceRit could get worse yetDec 20 11:32
iophkIndeed, it hasn't bottomed out yet.Dec 20 11:32
MinceRcould a CME reach Earth?Dec 20 11:32
msb_Maybe it has, judging by the defeat by the World Community of Obomber's attack on Syria.Dec 20 11:33
iophkHistory and archaeology show that we never pull the brakes, not even when a crash is imminent. Dec 20 11:33
msb_CMEs have reached the Earth, like the "Carrington Event" in 1859.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carrington_Super_FlareDec 20 11:34
TechrightsBot-tren.wikipedia.org | Solar storm of 1859 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia  [ http://ur1.ca/g85nw ]Dec 20 11:34
msb_It was very destructive of electrical equipment, and the danger to electronics and power systems would be much worse today.Dec 20 11:36
msb_Keep backup disks inside a Faraday shield.  Computers will rise again!Dec 20 11:36
msb_Actually, non-magnetic storage would be better.Dec 20 11:37
MinceRicDec 20 11:37
MinceRmight want to keep spare computers in faraday cages too, thenDec 20 11:37
msb_Absolutely!Dec 20 11:38
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msb_There was another CME hit in 1989, which crashed the power grid of Quebec -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geomagnetic_solar_stormDec 20 11:40
TechrightsBot-tren.wikipedia.org | Geomagnetic storm - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia  [ http://ur1.ca/g85od ]Dec 20 11:40
msb_I think Faraday cages only stop EM waves, not low-frequency magnetic fields as from a CME.Dec 20 11:43
msb_That might require a Mu-metal box to protect the data on disks -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mu-metalDec 20 11:45
TechrightsBot-tren.wikipedia.org | Mu-metal - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaDec 20 11:45
msb_We also need Democratic Socialism, collective farms, etc, so that a lengthy power-failure doesn't result in World War Z.Dec 20 11:47
iophkHow lengthy?Dec 20 11:47
iophkCities will collapse without water in a few days.Dec 20 11:48
msb_If the CME wrecks the big power transformers used by long transmission lines, it may take a few years to make new ones.  Apparently there aren't many (or maybe any) spares.Dec 20 11:48
msb_Hopefully Diesel tank trucks can deliver water, if they don't have essential electronics that get fried.Dec 20 11:50
iophkThat's a lot of water.  Are there enough bodies in the army reserves to carry that out even for a short time?Dec 20 11:51
iophkThe new trucks are highly computerized.Dec 20 11:51
msb_A change of consciousness away from competition, greed, and hatred would help a lot.Dec 20 11:51
iophkSee the Van Dam Volvo add for demo.Dec 20 11:52
iophkAt least the commercial trucks are that way.Dec 20 11:52
MinceRmsb_: unfortunately, those are parts of human natureDec 20 11:54
msb_No, they aren't.  See _The Chalice and the Blade_ by Riane Eisler.Dec 20 11:54
msb_Dominator Culture did not exist (mostly) prior to about 5,000 years ago.Dec 20 11:54
msb_Proved by unbiased archaeological research.Dec 20 11:55
msb_Dominator culture is an artifact, a pandemic psycho-social virus passed down by cruel child-rearing, genital mutilation, the anti-human JCI religion, etc.Dec 20 11:57
msb_See the works of Wilhelm Reich.Dec 20 11:57
msb_He called it the Emotional Plague.Dec 20 11:57
msb_It's a disease.  Humanity didn't always have it.Dec 20 11:58
MinceRsee The Blank Slate by Steven Pinker.Dec 20 12:05
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msb_A review in amazon says " there have never been any human cultures free of war, of greed, or of prescribed gender roles. "Dec 20 12:22
msb_It's BS.Dec 20 12:23
msb_The Chalice and the Blade mentions a drawing, in clay I think, of a man brandishing a spear (according to male archaeologists).Dec 20 12:24
msb_Female scientists noted that the "barbs" on the "spear" were facing the wrong way, opening outward instead of inward toward the person holding it, who, by the way, had breasts.Dec 20 12:25
msb_It was actually a woman waving a tree branch, celebrating the plant basis of life.Dec 20 12:26
msb_Yes, human infants are not a blank slate.  We have instinctive needs and desires.Dec 20 12:27
msb_But if infants are treated with kindness, and not exposed to psychopathic culture, they turn out kind, empathic, friendly.Dec 20 12:27
msb_Most cultures prior to 5,000 years ago were like that -- "Partnership Cultures" -- men and women had equal status.Dec 20 12:28
msb_The last such culture to survive attacks by the dominators were the Minoans, about 2,500 years ago, IIRC.Dec 20 12:29
MinceRit's nice to knock a book after reading a single random reviewDec 20 12:31
MinceRgood going.Dec 20 12:31
msb_Cut a child's penis or clitoris, tell them there's an invisible male god who will kill them if they don't worship him, tell them they're surrounded by enemies, and you wreck most children for life.Dec 20 12:31
msb_Apparently he says sexual shame is instinctive.  Crap!Dec 20 12:32
msb_I'll bet he's very popular on corporate TV and radio.Dec 20 12:33
msb_Those who justify fascism always are, because the corporate media are owned by the mega-fascists.Dec 20 12:34
MinceRafaik he's not exactly popularDec 20 12:35
msb_Apparently he has 3 books out.Dec 20 12:36
msb_Even anatomical psychopaths would not be given power in a partnership culture.Dec 20 12:38
msb_And there would be no induced psychopaths.Dec 20 12:38
MinceRwhat are you talking about?Dec 20 12:38
msb_Some psychopaths have brain abnormalities, in which the part of the brain that mediates empathy is malformed or not connected.Dec 20 12:39
msb_The rest are induced -- programmed -- by cruel child-rearing and the other influences I mentioned above.Dec 20 12:40
msb_Think what years of watching people attack and murder people on TV does to children.Dec 20 12:40
MinceRyeah, let's blame tv and moviesDec 20 12:41
msb_Parents just park their kids in front of that poison.Dec 20 12:41
MinceRtv is evilDec 20 12:41
MinceRpeople who kill are innocentDec 20 12:41
MinceRguns are evil tooDec 20 12:41
MinceRpeople are just helpless puppets of objects!Dec 20 12:42
msb_Watch this video:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKqs7GJ0jdYDec 20 12:42
TechrightsBot-trwww.youtube.com | Psychopathy in Politics and Finance - Stefan Verstappen on GRTV - YouTube  [ http://ur1.ca/g85hq ]Dec 20 12:42
msb_"The culture itself is psychopathic."Dec 20 12:43
msb_People are programmable, like computers.Dec 20 12:44
msb_MinceR: If they're programmed by culture to shoot someone with a gun, the whole question of who is innocent or evil is an oversimplification.Dec 20 12:45
MinceRand considering people to be mindless, programmable automatons is not an oversimplification?Dec 20 12:45
msb_It's a gestalt phenomenon.Dec 20 12:46
msb_I don't say that.Dec 20 12:46
msb_But they can be  influenced by traumatic parenting a psychopathic religion and other culture.Dec 20 12:47
msb_a -> andDec 20 12:47
MinceRindeed they canDec 20 12:47
MinceRand they can also think and make decisions if they want toDec 20 12:47
msb_Unless they are programmed not to think, which, for example, JCI religion does.Dec 20 12:47
MinceRindeedDec 20 12:48
MinceRthough some people have managed to resist such "programming"Dec 20 12:49
msb_Yes.Dec 20 12:49
msb_Fortunately I encountered Reich's books in my teens.Dec 20 12:49
msb_My parents and many other people got very angry at me when I asked, "If god created the Universe, who created god?"Dec 20 12:51
MinceR:>Dec 20 12:51
msb_Ubiquinol is so much easier to take than ubiquinone (the usual CoQ-10).  Doesn't have to be mixed with fish oil.  And it's 3x as  potent.Dec 20 12:56
msb_Because better absorbed.  It is the biologically active form.  The quinone has to be converted - reduced - by Vitamin E or some other reductant, which uses up your stores. of it.Dec 20 12:58
MinceRwhat do you think of orgone?Dec 20 12:59
msb_I resisted the change for years.  Silly me!Dec 20 12:59
MinceRwhich change?Dec 20 12:59
msb_When my Reichian therapist pointed a DOR sucker at me -- metal tubes grounded in a bucket of water -- I felt a pulling sensation and tasted metal.  He said that was the normal reaction.  So I think it's real.Dec 20 13:00
MinceRicDec 20 13:00
msb_change from quinone to quinol.Dec 20 13:00
MinceRwhat's a "DOR sucker"? what does "DOR" stand for?Dec 20 13:01
msb_Dead ORgoneDec 20 13:02
MinceRicDec 20 13:03
msb_Big ones are pointed at the sky to create or dissipate clouds.  Apparently they work.Dec 20 13:03
msb_Actually called a "DOR Buster", which I think is stupid, or Cloud Buster (the big ones).  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CloudbusterDec 20 13:06
TechrightsBot-tren.wikipedia.org | Cloudbuster - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia  [ http://ur1.ca/g862s ]Dec 20 13:06
msb_picture thereDec 20 13:07
msb_One of humanity's great heroes.  Imprisoned by the US govt and murdered.Dec 20 13:08
msb_When I realized, a couple of hours ago, the analogy of induction of lucid dreaming, with the induction of lyrical/holistic waking, I cried for joy.Dec 20 13:17
msb_About 15 minutes later, there was a gentle, but peristent, knocking at my door.Dec 20 13:17
msb_It was the Buddha!Dec 20 13:17
msb_Asian guy in a police uniform, but smiling and friendly.  Dec 20 13:18
msb_My downstairs neighbors, who readily blow horrible smoke and oven cleaner into my apartment, had called the cops and said I was "yelling and screaming".Dec 20 13:19
msb_There was no problem, though.Dec 20 13:19
msb_I don't know how many people can apply this method though.  I've been trying to regain my  childhood consciousness all my life, for some 60   years.Dec 20 13:21
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msb_Yay!  My yummy fish with black bean  sauce is NOT radioactive!  (I live 50 miles south of San Francisco.)Dec 20 14:07
iophkWhat is the ETA for the water from Japan there?Dec 20 14:08
msb_I thought it had been here for months.  I there a new batch?Dec 20 14:09
iophkOne a few weeks ago I think.Dec 20 14:09
msb_Looks normal so far:  http://www.blackcatsystems.com/RadMap/map.htmlDec 20 14:11
TechrightsBot-trwww.blackcatsystems.com | Online Geiger Counter Nuclear Radiation Detector Map  [ http://ur1.ca/g86g8 ]Dec 20 14:11
iophkThat's good.Dec 20 14:11
msb_Of course I was born in 1945, so I may be a mutant.  That would explain a lot!Dec 20 14:12
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schestowitz__[14:18] <s-714> @deryckchan      Hong Kong: It's Christmas Eve! Let's run allDec 20 14:25
schestowitz__[14:18] <s-714> retweeted by    the trains overnight!Dec 20 14:25
schestowitz__[14:18] <s-714> @glynmoody      London: It's Christmas! Shut down all theDec 20 14:25
schestowitz__[14:18] <s-714>                 railways for two days!Dec 20 14:25
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schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3434167Dec 20 16:15
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: You'll Never Guess Where This FBI Agent Left a Secret Interrogation ManualDec 20 16:15
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.motherjones.com | You'll Never Guess Where This FBI Agent Left a Secret Interrogation Manual | Mother Jones  [ http://ur1.ca/g872n ]Dec 20 16:15
schestowitz__"strange times have found us ..."Dec 20 16:15
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3434425Dec 20 16:15
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The term "user-friendly" (to whom?) has been widely distorted. When people say "user-friendly" they just mean dumbed down, not for expertsDec 20 16:15
schestowitz__"I find win8 to be extremely user-friendly . Especially if you try to make anything past the internet explorer work ( not that the internet explorer itself is working ) ."Dec 20 16:15
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3431951Dec 20 16:16
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Exchange of views with Glenn GREENWALD, Author and columnist having made public the facts http://ec.europa.eu/avservices/video/player.cfm?ref=I085104 h/t LaurelDec 20 16:16
schestowitz__"It is nice they had him to talk even if the panel leader wanted to grill him and gave the floor to assholes. I can't imagine Congress or corporate media giving Greenwald that kind of time."Dec 20 16:16
TechrightsBot-tr-> ec.europa.eu | EC Audiovisual Service - Video  [ http://ur1.ca/g7yph ]Dec 20 16:16
schestowitz__There's a label for people like him is US and USSR. They call them "anti-American" or "anti-Soviet" (similar to "anti-Semetic") so that they can shut their earholes and pretend no criticism is legitDec 20 16:17
schestowitz__"The 1.2 GB video is visible in the html and can be downloaded from http://c14005-o.l.core.cdn.streamfarm.net/findmedia/04/085104/LR_I085104INT1W.mp4 "Dec 20 16:17
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MinceRhttp://s.quickmeme.com/img/3c/3cf8044799e79a1f875ce07ebcadc525a3333d0a555b5fcc90c775aff7ee63d1.jpgDec 20 18:17
iophkold - http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/nov/04/california-police-body-cameras-cuts-violence-complaints-rialtoDec 20 18:24
iophk"after cameras were introduced in February 2012, public complaints  against officers plunged 88% compared with the previous 12 months"Dec 20 18:24
iophkcitizens, not civiliansDec 20 18:24
MinceR:)Dec 20 18:26
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MinceRhttp://ffn.nodwick.com/?p=1107Dec 20 18:46
iophkhttp://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57616140-94/cyanogenmod-raises-$23-million/Dec 20 19:08
iophkhttp://www.ibtimes.com/dna-oldest-flowering-plant-addresses-darwins-abominable-mystery-study-1516714Dec 20 19:56
iophkhttp://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/12/131219195930.htmDec 20 19:56
schestowitz__[19:46] <s-714> @trevortimm      Obama says phone metadata program has neverDec 20 20:21
schestowitz__[19:46] <s-714> retweeted by    been abused. But the FISA court said NSADec 20 20:21
schestowitz__[19:46] <s-714> @glynmoody      "frequently and systematically violated"Dec 20 20:21
schestowitz__[19:46] <s-714>                 privacy rules.Dec 20 20:21
Sosumihttp://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=fedora_20_benchmarks&num=1Dec 20 20:38
SosumiFedora 20 benchiesDec 20 20:38
Sosumibut as usual, nvidia wont officially support a latest release for their CUDA frameworkDec 20 20:39
schestowitz__thanks, seen and posted itDec 20 20:42
schestowitz__also in Tux MachinesDec 20 20:42
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schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3432077Dec 20 21:09
TechrightsBot-tr@linux@joindiaspora.com: Cinnamon 2.0 available for Linux Mint 13, LMDE to receive it soon http://www.muktware.com/2013/12/cinnamon-2-0-available-linux-mint-13-lmde-receive-soon/17769Dec 20 21:09
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.muktware.com | Cinnamon 2.0 available for Linux Mint 13, LMDE to receive it soon - MuktwareDec 20 21:09
schestowitz__"nice, but what a fucking annoying bug it introduced: screen lock is turned on and can't be turned off (well it can, but to no effect)."Dec 20 21:09
iophkhttp://news.cnet.com/8301-10805_3-57616169-75/microsoft-swears-that-bings-no-money-pit/Dec 20 21:28
TechrightsBot-trnews.cnet.com | Microsoft swears that Bing's no money pit | Microsoft - CNET News  [ http://ur1.ca/g88k9 ]Dec 20 21:28
iophk"under Microsoft's new reporting structure, the company isn't breaking out its Online Services profits and losses."Dec 20 21:29
iophkSo a lot of things could really be hemorrhaging money, unseen below the surface.Dec 20 21:29
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Sosumithe more things change, the more they stay the sameDec 20 22:43
Sosumihopefully, M$ will go underDec 20 22:43
Sosumithen we only have apple to killDec 20 22:44
Sosumiand one thing that apple needs right now is malwareDec 20 22:44
Sosumithey seem a bit lacking by being confined in their not even 5% marketshareDec 20 22:45
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Sosumihttp://www.reuters.com/article/2013/12/20/us-usa-security-rsa-idUSBRE9BJ1C220131220Dec 21 00:24
TechrightsBot-trwww.reuters.com | Exclusive: Secret contract tied NSA and security industry pioneer | Reuters  [ http://ur1.ca/g88pl ]Dec 21 00:24
SosumiRSA RSA RSA RSA NSADec 21 00:24
Sosumihttp://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/security/386185/microsoft-security-essentials-misses-39-of-malware-in-dennis-testDec 21 00:26
TechrightsBot-trwww.pcpro.co.uk | Microsoft Security Essentials misses 39% of malware in Dennis test | Security | News | PC Pro  [ http://ur1.ca/g89h8 ]Dec 21 00:26
MinceRtheir alleged "anti-malware" efforts started with stopping detecting claria as malware just as they were about to buy it, so i don't know why anyone trusts them with suchDec 21 00:28
MinceRm$ manages to out-sleaze even the other "antivirus" companiesDec 21 00:28
Sosumithey don't detect NSA backdoors as malwareDec 21 00:28
Sosumiso why trust them? :)Dec 21 00:28
MinceRwe could keep going :>Dec 21 00:29
Sosumiyeah :PDec 21 00:29
Sosumialso the RSA thing is kind of sad jokeDec 21 00:29
Sosumiof we knew in the past, as in confirmed, the some keys were crackedDec 21 00:30
Sosumibut having the NSA pay 10millionDec 21 00:30
SosumilawlDec 21 00:30
MinceRas for RSA, they kept silent when their token secrets were stolenDec 21 00:31
Sosuminow I know I really should "ace" my math to wizard levelDec 21 00:31
MinceRso they were never trustworthy eitherDec 21 00:31
Sosumiso I can make awesome encryption algos and have the NSA pay me for a backdoorDec 21 00:31
Sosumithat way I'll be able to afford my DBSDec 21 00:32
Sosumiofc that I'm joking about the middle partDec 21 00:32
Sosumithe DBS and the math wizardy have always been in the agendaDec 21 00:33
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schestowitz__http://www.fsf.org/news/gluglug-x60-laptop-now-certified-to-respect-your-freedom A few weeks ago I sat with RMS while he wrote them an E-mail, I suggested that they make a physical switch for web cam, so he wrote that to them (I think).Dec 21 09:43
TechrightsBot-trwww.fsf.org | Gluglug X60 Laptop now certified to Respect Your Freedom — Free Software Foundation — working together for free software  [ http://ur1.ca/g8cg9 ]Dec 21 09:43
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iophkhttp://falkvinge.net/2013/12/21/good-midwinter-solstice-with-a-kopimist-gospel/Dec 21 12:41
TechrightsBot-trfalkvinge.net | Good Midwinter Solstice! With A Kopimist Gospel - Falkvinge on Infopolicy  [ http://ur1.ca/g8dob ]Dec 21 12:41
iophkhttp://www.pcworld.com/article/2082460/moving-a-city-to-linux-needs-political-backing-says-munich-project-leader.htmlDec 21 12:55
TechrightsBot-trwww.pcworld.com | Moving a city to Linux needs political backing, says Munich project leader | PCWorld  [ http://ur1.ca/g8dru ]Dec 21 12:55
iophkhttp://torrentfreak.com/the-matrix-ascii-oldest-torrent-alive-turns-10-years-old-131220/Dec 21 14:01
TechrightsBot-trtorrentfreak.com | The Matrix ASCII: Oldest Torrent Alive Turns 10 Years Old | TorrentFreak  [ http://ur1.ca/g8e94 ]Dec 21 14:01
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MinceRgeekingsDec 21 16:26
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sebsebseb Dec 21 16:47
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3434999Dec 21 17:05
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Any government which still signs deals with #microsoft given what we now know simply deserved suing (class action) https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2007/01/nsa_helps_micro_1.htmlDec 21 17:05
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.schneier.com | Schneier on Security: NSA Helps Microsoft with Windows Vista  [ http://ur1.ca/g8b22 ]Dec 21 17:05
schestowitz__"It's all about perception for these confidence tricksters, isn't it? As a Microsoft mouthpiece said in 2007, NSA's involvement can help counter the perception that Windows is not entirely secure and help create a perception that Microsoft has solved the security problems that have plagued it in the past."Dec 21 17:05
sebsebsebschestowitz__: oh FOSDEM is going to be awesome!Dec 21 17:06
schestowitz__februaryDec 21 17:06
schestowitz__I thinkDec 21 17:06
sebsebsebschestowitz__: yes my plane tickets booked as of last nightDec 21 17:08
sebsebsebgoing a  day arier to meet someone from USADec 21 17:08
sebsebsebwho helps out on the Mageia QA teamDec 21 17:09
sebsebsebschestowitz__: looks like I am doing the legal isusues talks and suchDec 21 17:09
sebsebsebsome quite interesting talks thereDec 21 17:09
sebsebseblooking at scheduledDec 21 17:09
Sosumidoes gnome on fedora 20 need mono to work or installs mono by default?Dec 21 17:24
sebsebsebMono loves Sosumi very much!Dec 21 18:40
MinceRdunno about version 20, but fedora 15 didn't install it by defaultDec 21 18:41
MinceReven debian doesn't need it and won't install it _if_ you install gnote first, iircDec 21 18:41
MinceR(though that also might be outdated information)Dec 21 18:42
Sosumijust asking, I don't like mono nor gnome that muchDec 21 19:05
iophksosumi: it looks like Fedora 20 Gnome (default) does not have Mono.Dec 21 19:48
SosuminiceDec 21 19:48
iophkThe only RPM packages with 'mono' in the name are two fonts.Dec 21 19:49
MinceRniceDec 21 19:49
Sosuminice²Dec 21 19:54
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iophkhttp://www.infoworld.com/d/consumerization-of-it/edward-snowden-has-stripped-us-of-all-illusion-about-our-digital-world-232749Dec 21 21:25
TechrightsBot-trwww.infoworld.com | Edward Snowden has stripped us of all illusion about our digital world | Consumerization Of It - InfoWorld  [ http://ur1.ca/g8h45 ]Dec 21 21:26
iophkhttp://arstechnica.com/business/2013/12/data-brokers-wont-even-tell-the-government-how-it-uses-sells-your-data/Dec 21 21:26
TechrightsBot-trarstechnica.com | Data brokers won’t even tell the government how it uses, sells your data | Ars Technica  [ http://ur1.ca/g8h48 ]Dec 21 21:26
iophkhttp://torrentfreak.com/u-s-releases-more-evidence-of-megauploads-mass-infringing-use-131221/Dec 21 21:36
TechrightsBot-trtorrentfreak.com | U.S. Releases More Evidence of Megaupload’s ‘Mass Infringing Use’ | TorrentFreak  [ http://ur1.ca/g8h5q ]Dec 21 21:36
iophkhttp://www.theguardian.com/environment/2013/dec/20/conservative-groups-1bn-against-climate-changeDec 21 21:38
TechrightsBot-trwww.theguardian.com | Conservative groups spend up to $1bn a year to fight action on climate change | Environment | theguardian.com  [ http://ur1.ca/g8h64 ]Dec 21 21:38
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DaemonFCshared The Other 98%'s photo.Dec 15 01:55
DaemonFC4 minutes agoDec 15 01:55
DaemonFChttps://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/p480x480/1476159_724305034247144_213480629_n.jpgDec 15 01:55
DaemonFCFive days out of the month, it only took one of them to wipe out an entire army of men. True story! j/k LOLDec 15 01:55
DaemonFC:)Dec 15 01:55
MinceR:)Dec 15 01:57
DaemonFCshared The Other 98%'s photo.Dec 15 02:10
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DaemonFChttps://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/p480x480/1479463_724301720914142_587712941_n.jpgDec 15 02:10
DaemonFCI'm a reasonably physically healthy 29 year old man with no blood borne diseases. I have a blood type that can be accepted by pretty much everyone on Earth. I have been permanently banned from donating blood, plasma, and organs because I am gay.Dec 15 02:10
DaemonFCThink about that, the next time a disaster happens, thousands of people are bleeding, and the Red Cross can't get enough of you to donate blood.Dec 15 02:10
DaemonFCIf I die, they will allow perfectly usable organs to rot. Think about that, the next time you know someone that needs an eye, heart, lung, liver, kidney, etc. and can't get one.Dec 15 02:10
DaemonFCThen thank the Republican Party, right-wing homophobia, and a CDC policy that dates back to the Reagan 80s and is based on fear, not science.Dec 15 02:10
DaemonFCThen pat yourselves on the back, if you think I should still be banned, for letting other people die.Dec 15 02:10
DaemonFCI am tired of this shit. Tired of this shit. When are people going to wake up and smell reality?Dec 15 02:10
DaemonFCWhen you go down to the centers where they collect blood and plasma, and pay people to donate, look around. These are college students. These are alcoholics. These are people who you know are probably having unprotected sex. Since they're straight, we have a national policy to let them donate anyway. They're more of a risk to public health than I am. The Red Cross tests *EVERY* blood sample donated. Every single one. *If* a donor has HIV, theDec 15 02:10
DaemonFCfourth generation tests that they use will usually catch it within five days of infection. That's how good the tests are. All they really have to ask people now is the following question.Dec 15 02:10
DaemonFC"Have you had unprotected sex, with anyone, in the last week?"Dec 15 02:10
DaemonFCBut, we have this stupid paranoia that is causing people to die because of blood, plasma, and organ shortages. STUPID people and their STUPID public policy are letting this continue, because they have irrational, illogical prejudices. That's all that's keeping this policy around now that we have modern medical science.Dec 15 02:10
DaemonFC24 seconds agoDec 15 02:10
DaemonFCPlease contact the Red Cross at 1-800-733-2767, and tell them "It's time to end the ban on blood, plasma, tissue, and organ donations from gay and bisexual men. This policy is rooted in thirty year old hysteria, not modern medical science. Please replace your questions about sex partners with one that simply asks everyone if they've had unprotected sex recently. You are allowing straight people who have unprotected sex with an unlimited Dec 15 02:10
DaemonFCnumber of partners donate all of these things, and that *is* a public health hazard. Thank you."Dec 15 02:10
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Sosumiany word from google about removing that that "mistaken" update that did away with the permission tab?Dec 15 02:53
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iophkhttp://torrentfreak.com/measures-to-black-out-pirate-sites-unanimously-approved-131215/Dec 15 09:59
TechrightsBot-trtorrentfreak.com | Measures to Black Out Pirate Sites Unanimously Approved  | TorrentFreak  [ http://ur1.ca/g6z7m ]Dec 15 09:59
iophkhttps://blog.torservers.net/20131213/torservers-awarded-250000-by-digital-defenders.htmlDec 15 11:10
TechrightsBot-trblog.torservers.net | torservers.net blog  [ http://ur1.ca/g6zp7 ]Dec 15 11:10
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iophkhttp://betanews.com/2013/12/12/dont-fall-prey-to-gmails-image-problem/Dec 15 11:13
TechrightsBot-trbetanews.com | Don't fall prey to Gmail's image problem  [ http://ur1.ca/g6zpt ]Dec 15 11:13
oiaohmiophk: yes its funny.Dec 15 11:17
oiaohmiophk: google already has you sniffed anyhow.Dec 15 11:18
oiaohmiophk: the fact they are blocking thrid parties from sniffing I wonder if we will see a anti-trust case against google.Dec 15 11:18
iophkyes they have all the info, but the new settings allow spammers and others to track alsoDec 15 11:18
iophkAnti-trust probably doesn't apply here.Dec 15 11:19
oiaohmiophk: if you look closer no it does not.Dec 15 11:19
oiaohmGoogle is acting as the middle man.Dec 15 11:19
oiaohmSo third parties only see that a google server collected the image then cached it.Dec 15 11:20
iophkyes but at some time they might start really abusing their control or position first-handDec 15 11:20
iophkthen anti-trust would apply. Dec 15 11:20
iophkBut anti-trust has been slow and weak in recent decades.Dec 15 11:20
oiaohmNote most spam email is balk identical.Dec 15 11:20
oiaohmSo identical images and links inside.Dec 15 11:21
oiaohmWhat google is doing to track spammer will have todo per email emails.Dec 15 11:21
iophkgmail's non-javascript configuration interface does not allow disabling of remote images.Dec 15 11:23
oiaohmiophk: the thing here is they are no longer remote.Dec 15 11:23
iophkremote and local at the same timeDec 15 11:23
oiaohmThey are from google servers same servers you are going to for your email.Dec 15 11:23
iophkthe cache is a proxyDec 15 11:23
oiaohmiophk: the proxy is a filter.Dec 15 11:23
oiaohmThe address you are using to the google proxy is a google unique address.Dec 15 11:24
oiaohmSo no cookies from target or any other marker get to you.Dec 15 11:24
iophkNo.  Just if the have sent unique urls.Dec 15 11:25
oiaohmiophk: they never got you ip addressDec 15 11:25
oiaohmThey never got to set cookies in your browser.Dec 15 11:25
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oiaohmIf they sent unique url all they get is that your email is active.Dec 15 11:25
iophkYes, that can be bad enough.Dec 15 11:26
oiaohmiophk: and maybe not that.Dec 15 11:26
iophkToo bad the politicians did not take the problem of spam seriously at the end of the 90'sDec 15 11:26
oiaohmiophk: why google bot is the one collecting the data.Dec 15 11:26
oiaohmSo end person is left guessing.Dec 15 11:26
oiaohmWas it some random luck that google bot found it.Dec 15 11:27
oiaohmiophk: now the other thing google may not wait for you to open the email to collect the images either.Dec 15 11:27
oiaohmiophk: this is the complete problem for the spammers.Dec 15 11:28
oiaohmRemember they are paid on click and paid on view and so on.Dec 15 11:28
oiaohmGoogle alteration undoes there means to prove viewed.Dec 15 11:28
iophkonly if the cache preloads the imageDec 15 11:30
iophkif the cache loads only on demand then it shows that the user has viewed the imageDec 15 11:30
oiaohmiophk: and the current configuation it does preload the iamge.Dec 15 11:30
iophkor at least opened the spamDec 15 11:30
oiaohmiophk: google is virus scanning.Dec 15 11:31
iophkthe new default is to load the remote images.  That was just changed.Dec 15 11:31
oiaohmby proxy.Dec 15 11:31
oiaohmBut for person bandwidth I still would like an option for images off.Dec 15 11:32
iophkYes, load them by proxy, but load them by default.  It's there in Gmail's settings.Dec 15 11:32
iophkImages off completely would be best.Dec 15 11:32
iophkHTML mail is a pox.Dec 15 11:32
oiaohmiophk: for ID malware hidden scanning the images is required.Dec 15 11:32
oiaohmNot everyone is using google web client.Dec 15 11:32
oiaohmwith gmail.Dec 15 11:32
iophkI'm pretty sure 100% can be deleted automatically without losing anything.Dec 15 11:32
oiaohmThe proxy is a google gmail secuirty upgrade.Dec 15 11:33
oiaohmdeeper and more complete scanning of email.Dec 15 11:33
oiaohmNow of course that is good and bad.Dec 15 11:33
oiaohmBad for malware and spammers.Dec 15 11:33
oiaohmBad for NSA collected information from google.Dec 15 11:34
oiaohmGood for letting less viruses and malware past.Dec 15 11:34
oiaohmiophk: basically I see good and bad in what google has just done.Dec 15 11:35
iophkyes, it has those advantagesDec 15 11:36
iophkNSA can just get info direct from Google's servers, the proxy won't affect much if anything.Dec 15 11:36
oiaohmBad is more bandwidth used between user and google checking mail.Dec 15 11:36
oiaohmiophk: other than the fact NSA knows from google when you viewed those emails.Dec 15 11:46
oiaohmiophk: including the images.Dec 15 11:46
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schestowitz_bed2https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3410670Dec 15 19:22
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: # Linus on Google's accidentally doing right:  Android privacy tool withdrawn after "accidental" releaseDec 15 19:22
TechrightsBot-tr-> plus.google.com | Linus Torvalds - Google+ - This is sad. With all the posturing Google has done over…  [ http://ur1.ca/g756u ]Dec 15 19:22
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.eff.org | Awesome Privacy Tools in Android 4.3+ | Electronic Frontier Foundation  [ http://ur1.ca/g6czk ]Dec 15 19:22
schestowitz_bed2"Dec 15 19:23
schestowitz_bed2This is why I don't like Android - non free apps have been able to rape users all along. All the apps wanted everything and it was impossible to do things without an actual cell phone number. I don't know what magic Google has to keep an app from making a copy of my addressbook or from capturing a password that would give full access to my email, but I imagine it's full of holes.Dec 15 19:23
schestowitz_bed2The phone companies are the worst. It was impossible for me to get VOIP without having a "real" phone number from a damn SIM card. Even Google voice was like this. Hangouts worked for other G+ users. You just can't connect to the phone system with it unless you have a phone line.Dec 15 19:23
schestowitz_bed2Particularly disgusting was Vonnage, which I use at home without a phone line. I would have thought the company would be happy with me identifying myself and putting their crappy binary on my phone. The program even had a preference that would make it wifi only. Just the same, it demanded my cell phone's number to finish verifying who I was.Dec 15 19:23
schestowitz_bed2"Dec 15 19:23
schestowitz_bed2"Dec 15 19:24
schestowitz_bed2@Will: ayup to all of that.Dec 15 19:24
schestowitz_bed2I'm looking to replace my current smartphone, and the best option I seem to find at present is toDec 15 19:24
schestowitz_bed2    Get a "dumb" featurephone. The biggest problem of which is that I've grown rather addicted to one particular Android app: an effing call screening tool (though those are about the most intrusive of all privacy-invasion apps). I really effing hate being interrupted by phone calls, especially from absolute strangers. And shutting the damned thing off all the time isn't quite an option.Dec 15 19:24
schestowitz_bed2    Get a tablet, preferably one capable of loading a custom mod and/or actual Linux load (what's the state of those -- Ubuntu's been making noises, and I think there's a couple of other alternatives). A phone is, ultimately, a little too small to be useful for content. A tablet just noses in for dealing with content. The ability to have 3G/4G connectivity when mobile would be cool, though most of the time WiFi seems to be Dec 15 19:24
schestowitz_bed2sufficient.Dec 15 19:24
schestowitz_bed2Google's making it really hard for me to like them these days.Dec 15 19:24
schestowitz_bed2"Dec 15 19:24
schestowitz_bed2"Dec 15 19:24
schestowitz_bed2You should check http://aokp.co/ a free software distro of Android without big brother G dependancies. Then use http://f-droid.org/ repositories and install only what you might need...Dec 15 19:24
TechrightsBot-traokp.co | AOKP.coDec 15 19:24
schestowitz_bed2Off course no fb no wat$$app no big companies neither social media. For twitter check different options.Dec 15 19:24
TechrightsBot-trf-droid.org | F-Droid ·Dec 15 19:24
schestowitz_bed2"Dec 15 19:24
schestowitz_bed2"Dec 15 19:24
schestowitz_bed2@jorge_sd: can you sideload mainstream apps? There's a small handful I've found useful.Dec 15 19:24
schestowitz_bed2Otherwise, the main use I'd have for a tablet would be for Web and content reading.Dec 15 19:24
schestowitz_bed2"Dec 15 19:24
schestowitz_bed2https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3415778Dec 15 19:32
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: RT @qu1j0t3 RT @BoycotStarbucks Millions of people are realizing that  money they spend at Starbucks is being drained out of the community.Dec 15 19:32
schestowitz_bed2"Dec 15 19:33
schestowitz_bed2I do not see how Starbucks is draining money out of a community - is there a link to something that shows what you mean ......Dec 15 19:33
schestowitz_bed2Buying coffee drains money out of the community how ?Dec 15 19:33
schestowitz_bed2https://www.google.co.uk/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=Buying+coffee+drains+money+out+of+the+community&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&gl=uk&gws_rd=cr&Dec 15 19:33
TechrightsBot-trwww.google.co.uk | Buying coffee drains money out of the community - Google Search  [ http://ur1.ca/g75eq ]Dec 15 19:33
schestowitz_bed2The bigger drain is the amount going into the Military Industrial Complex .......... straight out of the value gained by all people working ...... $500 Billion Dollars ........ takes an awful lot of coffee to compete with that ........Dec 15 19:33
schestowitz_bed2Especially after paying peoples wages - paying for the cofffee paying for the rent and heating and cleaning of the establishments.Dec 15 19:33
schestowitz_bed2But would be interesting to see how much money comes from Starbucks alone ...........Dec 15 19:33
schestowitz_bed2The bigger picture seems to be tax paid and how it is divided up into what is needed in the USA and what is superficial and brings no benefit to the people of the USA or the World .........Dec 15 19:33
schestowitz_bed2Being the World Police Force without asking if the rest of the World really needs Police from one country sorting out all the World Problems ........ which by the way mainly stem from resources OIL .... GAS ...........Dec 15 19:34
schestowitz_bed2Which if the USA was not on such a hunting party for OIL and GAS all over the World ........ then fewer incidents would be happening.Dec 15 19:34
schestowitz_bed2IMHO .......... but coffee ........ thought their business now revolved around good ethics ........Dec 15 19:34
schestowitz_bed2https://www.google.co.uk/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=starbucks+coffee&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&gl=uk&gws_rd=cr&Dec 15 19:34
TechrightsBot-trwww.google.co.uk | starbucks coffee - Google Search  [ http://ur1.ca/g75ev ]Dec 15 19:34
schestowitz_bed2"Dec 15 19:34
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schestowitz_bed2https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3414949Dec 15 19:46
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Sky 'news' is somewhat of a hypocritical satire when it comes to covering Mandela today. Torture just watching it.Dec 15 19:46
schestowitz_bed2"No sign language interpreter this time?"Dec 15 19:46
schestowitz_bed2https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3413444Dec 15 19:46
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: NSA does what in the physical world we would never accept https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pcWlyUu8U4Dec 15 19:46
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.youtube.com | The NSA is Coming to Town - YouTube  [ http://ur1.ca/g75lx ]Dec 15 19:46
schestowitz_bed2"I think they are working on making people accept the physical violations too. Airports, schools, etc, are ahead of the game."Dec 15 19:46
schestowitz_bed2"In large parts of Amsterdam for years already the police randomly closes down streets and squares to frisk anyone present and most most people already have accepted that... :-("Dec 15 19:47
schestowitz_bed2https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3410790Dec 15 19:49
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The #cia is "disappearing" its own people http://www.ndtv.com/article/world/a-disappearing-us-spy-and-a-scandal-at-the-cia-458610 never mind "secret" prisons http://www.nation.com.pk/international/14-Dec-2013/us-congress-cia-still-feuding-over-secret-prisonsDec 15 19:49
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.ndtv.com | A disappearing US spy, and a scandal at the CIA | NDTV.com  [ http://ur1.ca/g75n2 ]Dec 15 19:49
schestowitz_bed2"Great place to work?"Dec 15 19:49
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.nation.com.pk | US Congress, CIA still feuding over secret prisons  [ http://ur1.ca/g75n3 ]Dec 15 19:49
schestowitz_bed2https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3413458Dec 15 19:49
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: There are NSA practices which have been known for years but leaks have not proven yet.Dec 15 19:49
schestowitz_bed2"Pas nouveau, pas besoin d'un Snodewn pour savoir ça, ont le sait depuis bien longtemps sauf qu'avant on en parlait pas !"Dec 15 19:49
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schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3415902\Dec 15 20:42
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Microsoft Jack shows his ignorance http://discussion.theguardian.com/discussion/p/3y7t2 how much more #microsoft ads can Guardian endure?  http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/The_GuardianDec 15 20:42
TechrightsBot-tr-> discussion.theguardian.com | Guardian discussion | Linux laptops: should you avoid buying Windows?  [ http://ur1.ca/g6v5d ]Dec 15 20:42
TechrightsBot-tr-> techrights.org | The Guardian - Techrights  [ http://ur1.ca/cfind ]Dec 15 20:42
schestowitz__"Oh wow, that's a "staff replies" view that has so much more than the first two comments. Jack really does show himself there."Dec 15 20:42
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3416037Dec 15 20:42
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Microsoft has been using GNU/Linux internally for hosting (in quite a few cases). INTERNALLY. Maybe it wants no back doors INSIDE company.Dec 15 20:42
schestowitz__"Where can I read about this internal usage?"Dec 15 20:42
schestowitz__I gave 5 or so examples about 4 years ago.Dec 15 20:42
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3415819Dec 15 20:43
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: A lot of military & government depts around the world have already abandoned NSA Windows for security reasons. Expect more in years to come.Dec 15 20:43
schestowitz__"There are rumors of a Microsoft Android from Nokia called "Normandy". What silly things that bastard Bill does."Dec 15 20:43
schestowitz__Maybe trying to outdo free  Android with taxed and controlled Nokia (with b0ng etc.), like Facebook with"Home"... and Novell with SUSE.Dec 15 20:44
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3415816Dec 15 20:44
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: How about referring to #Microsoft Windows as "NSA Windows" from now on? Microsoft in itself is synonymous with crime, but NSA more so.Dec 15 20:44
schestowitz__"The relationship between Gates and the US government is difficult to fully understand. It might be the MS NSA."Dec 15 20:44
schestowitz__“Gates met Noorda briefly in San Francisco to discuss the merger [...] before the merger could go forward, he said Novell had to drop its plans to buy Digital Research. [...] when Noorda raised the possibility that the Justice Department might try to block a merger between the first and third biggest software companies on the planet, Gates responded, “Don’t worry, we know how to handle the federal government.” [...] Gates Dec 15 20:46
schestowitz__denied every saying such a thing”Dec 15 20:46
schestowitz__http://bil-gates.blogspot.com/Dec 15 20:46
TechrightsBot-trbil-gates.blogspot.mx | BILL GATES and the Race to Control CyberspaceDec 15 20:46
schestowitz__http://www.google.com/custom?client=pub-2479740519054892&cof=FORID%3A1%3BGL%3A1%3BS%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fschestowitz.com%3BL%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Ftechrights.org%2Ftechrights-search.png%3BLH%3A50%3BLW%3A50%3BLBGC%3A999999%3BLC%3A%23666666%3BVLC%3A%23999999%3BGALT%3A%23999999%3BGFNT%3A%23333333%3BGIMP%3A%23333333%3BDIV%3A%23336699%3B&sitesearch=techrights.org&hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&oe=ISO-8859-1&q=gates+clinton&btnG=SearchDec 15 20:46
TechrightsBot-trwww.google.com | gates clinton - Google Search  [ http://ur1.ca/g76hq ]Dec 15 20:46
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3415013Dec 15 20:46
schestowitz__"Pretoria, hurrah!"Dec 15 20:46
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Hypocrite on stage https://pod.geraspora.de/uploads/images/scaled_full_094ddde69120cd0be5e9.jpg #mandelaDec 15 20:46
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3416341Dec 15 20:53
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Why does White House keep "burning" US citizens even after some "dissidents" in the field of journalism (aka "terrorists") expose the lies?Dec 15 20:53
schestowitz__"to show they can and create a sense of hopelessness?"Dec 15 20:53
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Sosumihttp://semiaccurate.com/2013/12/09/tablet-oses-killed-windows-8-microsoft/Dec 15 22:35
TechrightsBot-trsemiaccurate.com | Tablet OSes killed Windows 8 and Microsoft with it | SemiAccurate  [ http://ur1.ca/g77px ]Dec 15 22:35
SosumiI said it beforeDec 15 22:35
Sosumiscrap MetroDec 15 22:35
Sosumiand the NSA :PDec 15 22:35
Sosumiand while at it, also scrap the mobile aspirationsDec 15 22:36
Sosumiand focus on making NT a great OS and on bringing the office tools to android, gnu/linux, etcDec 15 22:38
Sosumior they'll eventually go under, which at this point isn't bad eitherDec 15 22:38
Sosumione thing about surface tablets not selling is that major retailers are selling them at heavily discounted prices just to get rid of themDec 15 22:41
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/moldaviax/status/412355601176354817Dec 15 22:57
TechrightsBot-tr@moldaviax: @schestowitz I think jack seems to forget that a pc begins life as a pc not a windows pc :)Dec 15 22:57
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schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3416868Dec 16 00:31
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: weather report from norway...Dec 16 00:31
schestowitz__"Good on Norway!"Dec 16 00:31
schestowitz__"I don't like Norway weather."Dec 16 00:32
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3415810Dec 16 00:32
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Red Hat's CEO uses #facebook - what a disappointment. http://instagram.com/p/h899xOA_h6/# "4 minutes ago".. "THEISM"Dec 16 00:32
TechrightsBot-tr ( status 404 @ http://instagram.com/p/h899xOA_h6/# )Dec 16 00:32
schestowitz__"Nobody is perfect. Also, there should be a lot of sysadmins that are in Facebook too and expect to find Red Hat there."Dec 16 00:32
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3415819Dec 16 00:33
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: A lot of military & government depts around the world have already abandoned NSA Windows for security reasons. Expect more in years to come.Dec 16 00:33
schestowitz__"Nothing is quite as ridiculous as the Microsoft monopoly. Rumors about what Microsoft is going to do next are no more reliable than anything else Microsoft does. "Normandy" rumors are floating around on low wattage sites like The Verge and Engadget. The Microsoft press is only slightly more reliable than Windows itself. Microsoft's intrusion into Suse basically destroyed the distribution and had lasting harmful effects on all Dec 16 00:33
schestowitz__desktop gnu/linux."Dec 16 00:33
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/GatoPreto19/status/412379910536060928Dec 16 00:34
TechrightsBot-tr@GatoPreto19: @schestowitz The Official Story: How NY Times Covers Yemen Drone Strikes http://t.co/fT8jhXoHp8Dec 16 00:34
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.fair.org | The Official Story: How NY Times Covers Yemen Drone StrikesDec 16 00:34
Sosumieven if military and gov branches are dumping windowsDec 16 01:02
Sosumiwhich they should and probably have their own in house IT deptsDec 16 01:02
Sosumithat tailor their distros to their needsDec 16 01:03
Sosumicritical software used in, lets say, the defense industry, works only on windowsDec 16 01:03
Sosumispecially when it comes to CAD/CAM softwareDec 16 01:04
Sosumistuff like the Dassault suites and the autodesk suitesDec 16 01:05
Sosumionly siemens nx has a linux versionDec 16 01:05
Sosumialso didn't autodesk try to move away from opengl to directx?Dec 16 01:06
Sosumiand they also did that with mayaDec 16 01:08
Sosumithat is why I keep hearing that windows is much better for viewportDec 16 01:08
Sosumibut linux and osx are faster for editingDec 16 01:09
SosumiMicrosoft in one imageDec 16 01:22
Sosumihttp://1.bp.blogspot.com/_WVQlev6CT6o/TJzTQeCDYxI/AAAAAAAAAVY/5vUwb4Q2Zt8/s1600/C:%5Cfakepath%5Coctopus.jpgDec 16 01:22
Sosumiand just like poseidon did:Dec 16 01:24
Sosumihttp://www.cambridge2000.com/gallery/images/PC1718172e.jpgDec 16 01:24
Sosumiit must be eliminatedDec 16 01:24
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Sosumifor the lolsDec 16 01:38
Sosumihttps://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=DrowdOEOrwg#t=918Dec 16 01:38
TechrightsBot-trwww.youtube.com | Max Keiser Discusses QE & Rigged Global Markets - YouTube  [ http://ur1.ca/g7a1c ]Dec 16 01:38
Sosumiignore the title, it's just what Alex Jones is selling nowDec 16 01:38
SosumihilariousDec 16 01:39
Sosumiwhat is that? heavy water from unit 3 at fukushima daichi? snake oil? whalecum? piss?Dec 16 01:43
SosumiI wander how many dupes will for thatDec 16 01:44
Sosumi*fallDec 16 01:44
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schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3416959Dec 16 07:20
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: ![](http://img4.joyreactor.com/pics/post/gif-skate-accident-fat-people-989344.gif)Dec 16 07:20
schestowitz__"That just hurts to look at."Dec 16 07:20
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3417046Dec 16 07:20
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: You know who shot a 100lb Hellfire missile (overpriced and charged from taxpayers at $68k)? Our own Prince Harry... he shot it at people.Dec 16 07:20
schestowitz__""Our own Prince Harry" he is NOT my Prince Harry. However what an authoritarian nasty human being he is."Dec 16 07:20
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3416868Dec 16 07:27
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: weather report from norway...Dec 16 07:27
schestowitz__"norway is a pioneer in equal rights of men and women. as well as finland -> finland"Dec 16 07:27
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schestowitz__ https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3416037Dec 16 08:36
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Microsoft has been using GNU/Linux internally for hosting (in quite a few cases). INTERNALLY. Maybe it wants no back doors INSIDE company.Dec 16 08:36
schestowitz__"lol ironic"Dec 16 08:36
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MinceRhttps://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/1474528_758965957465836_1496335381_n.jpgDec 16 10:09
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iophkhttp://torrentfreak.com/free-society-sharing-knowledge-and-culture-131215/Dec 16 10:22
TechrightsBot-trtorrentfreak.com | Our Free Society Stands Or Falls With Our Defense Of Sharing Knowledge And Culture | TorrentFreak  [ http://ur1.ca/g7ebj ]Dec 16 10:22
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iophk"The message is clear. Evangelism of FLOSS has gone as far as it can without getting retail shelf-space"Dec 16 10:57
iophkhttp://mrpogson.com/2013/12/15/the-fight-for-free-software-in-french-polynesia/Dec 16 10:57
TechrightsBot-trmrpogson.com | The FIght For Free Software In French Polynesia  |   Robert Pogson  [ http://ur1.ca/g7ehx ]Dec 16 10:57
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MinceRhttp://xkcd.com/1304/Dec 16 12:36
TechrightsBot-trxkcd.com | xkcd: Glass TrollingDec 16 12:36
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msb_There's now a fix for the youtube "VEVO" problem, where videos marked "VEVO" can't be downloaded.  VEVO is some huge copyright-pig corporation.Dec 16 13:08
MinceRdidn't DownloadHelper or Offliberty work?Dec 16 13:25
msb_Nope.  DH gives 0 bytes.Dec 16 13:28
MinceRicDec 16 13:29
msb_But this works, even on my old version of OpenSuse:  http://rg3.github.io/youtube-dl/index.htmlDec 16 13:29
TechrightsBot-trrg3.github.io | youtube-dl  [ http://ur1.ca/el7jy ]Dec 16 13:29
msb_It's a cli program with lots of options, but very easy to use.Dec 16 13:30
MinceRbookmarked.Dec 16 13:30
MinceRi used to use clive for a while, then youtube broke it and it stayed that way at least for a whileDec 16 13:30
msb_Videos that used to download fine with DH, are now marked VEVO and won't download with DH.  Same url and everything.Dec 16 13:31
msb_That article by Falkvinge in TF above is very good.  The censorship starts with music and movies, and then is rapidly used to stop political advocacy and organizing.Dec 16 13:34
msb_The psychopaths that want to rule the world (and almost do) know that people's most important weapon is communication.Dec 16 13:36
msb_It's the only way we can fight the brainwashing.Dec 16 13:36
iophkHe spotted early on what they are doing.Dec 16 13:39
msb_The corporate media contain almost nothing about what's really going on.Dec 16 13:40
iophkNo.  They are part of the problem.Dec 16 13:40
msb_They do the brainwashing.Dec 16 13:40
msb_If people hear the same info from multiple sources, they believe it.Dec 16 13:41
msb_So the corporate media broadcast the same lies on dozens of channels.Dec 16 13:41
msb_This is a most wonderful antifascist video:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0Yg9wjctRwDec 16 13:42
TechrightsBot-trwww.youtube.com | Brad Paisley - Welcome To The Future - YouTube  [ http://ur1.ca/g7fzu ]Dec 16 13:43
msb_And now it won't download normally because it's Dec 16 13:43
msb_VEVO"Dec 16 13:43
iophkor same disinfo from multiple sources ...Dec 16 13:44
msb_But youtube-dl gets it at 360p.  Dec 16 13:44
msb_exactlyDec 16 13:45
msb_"If you tell me three times then it's true" used to be a good algorithm, but it's not anymore.Dec 16 13:46
MinceR143443 < msb_> That article by Falkvinge in TF above is very good.  The censorship starts with music and movies, and then is rapidly used to stop Dec 16 13:47
MinceRit also starts with pornDec 16 13:47
msb_Yes.  As if someone's sexuality is anyone else's business.Dec 16 13:47
msb_But the anti-sexual Judeo-Christian-Islamic religion was one of the earliest means of brainwashing and controlling people.Dec 16 13:48
msb_And it's still at the center of our Dominator Culture.Dec 16 13:49
msb_Edward Bernays invented the techniques for mind-control from his knowledge of the research of his uncle Sigmund Freud  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_BernaysDec 16 13:53
TechrightsBot-tren.wikipedia.org | Edward Bernays - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia  [ http://ur1.ca/07noz ]Dec 16 13:53
msb_Bernays is a good candidate for most evil person who ever lived.Dec 16 13:53
MinceRhttp://asset-e.soup.io/asset/6341/9767_eba9.jpegDec 16 13:58
msb_youtube-dl is very easy to install.  Just put it in a directory in your account and run it from there.  Doesn't need root to install.  Has an excellent man page.  -F lists all the available formats from the specified url, and -f selects one.Dec 16 13:58
msb_Obomber is still murdering people by the dozens in weddings, and having journalists beaten, seriously injured, and withdrawing their US citizenship.  Dec 16 14:02
msb_He is a fascist monster in liberal clothing.Dec 16 14:03
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msb_Puts major banking executives in the govt.Dec 16 14:04
msb_Promotes a medical insuranc system created by insurance and drug corporations.Dec 16 14:05
msb_Signs laws allowing the govt to kidnap and imprison any American citizen indefinitely and without charges.Dec 16 14:05
msb_But he's Black, so people think he's a liberal.Dec 16 14:06
msb_Destroyed Libya and tried to destroy Syria, but people found out and revealed it on the Net.Dec 16 14:09
msb_Presumably mencoder will be able to marry the sound from the 360p video with the picture from the 480p no-sound video.Dec 16 14:11
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Sosumim$ is a heavy user of freebsd internallyDec 16 14:23
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Sosumithey, like crapple, don't rely on their own stuff to run their critical infrastructureDec 16 14:24
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SosumiI guess, for them, the only leaks allowed are the kind that you take at the nearest bathroomDec 16 14:31
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iophkhttp://www.pcworld.com/article/2079569/after-mixed-black-friday-sales-microsoft-s-holiday-hopes-could-hinge-on-its-stores.htmlDec 16 14:48
TechrightsBot-trwww.pcworld.com | After mixed Black Friday sales, Microsoft’s holiday hopes could hinge on its stores | PCWorld  [ http://ur1.ca/g7gfu ]Dec 16 14:48
iophkrelated to Falkvinge's article:Dec 16 14:49
iophkhttp://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2319277/bt-will-automatically-block-porn-for-new-customersDec 16 14:49
TechrightsBot-trwww.theinquirer.net | BT will automatically block porn for new customers- The Inquirer  [ http://ur1.ca/g7gg1 ]Dec 16 14:49
iophkhttp://torrentfreak.com/amazon-pulls-access-to-purchased-christmas-videos-during-christmas-131216/Dec 16 14:52
TechrightsBot-trtorrentfreak.com | Amazon Pulls Access to Purchased Christmas Videos During Christmas | TorrentFreak  [ http://ur1.ca/g7ggg ]Dec 16 14:52
iophk"Affected customers have seen their videos disappear from their online libraries, "Dec 16 15:00
MinceRheh heh. "purchased", they say.Dec 16 15:11
iophkThey've done it before, too, so it's an ongoing problem.  The first one was with "1984" ironically enoughDec 16 15:12
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SosumiI said it beforeDec 16 15:16
Sosumiand so did many othersDec 16 15:16
Sosumiit's not purchased, but, temporarily leasedDec 16 15:16
Sosumiuntil the provider removes the contentDec 16 15:17
Sosumior goes underDec 16 15:17
msb_Wasn't that done to _1984_ or _Brave New World_ purchased through Amazon?Dec 16 15:17
MinceRthe former, iircDec 16 15:19
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msb_I wonder if there are secret good people who do this kind of thing for ironic publicity.Dec 16 15:27
iophkhttp://news.cnet.com/8301-13860_3-10289983-56.htmlDec 16 15:27
TechrightsBot-trnews.cnet.com | Amazon recalls (and embodies) Orwell's '1984' | Beyond Binary - CNET News  [ http://ur1.ca/g7gl9 ]Dec 16 15:27
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iophkhttp://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/18/technology/companies/18amazon.htmlDec 16 15:28
TechrightsBot-trmyaccount.nytimes.com | Log In - The New York Times  [ http://ur1.ca/g7gld ]Dec 16 15:28
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msb_Amazon even deleted the notes that a guy was taking on the book for a school assignment.Dec 16 15:42
iophkYeah, they took his notes. Dec 16 15:44
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msb_All this is motivating people to learn more about computers, networking, etc., which is all to the good.Dec 16 15:46
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Sosumi1984 back in 2009Dec 16 15:50
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Sosumias for the second one it was the "amazon ate my homework" thingDec 16 15:51
Sosumiand it didn't happen just to one dudeDec 16 15:51
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iophkhttp://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2319353/google-in-hot-water-over-removed-android-permissions-appDec 16 16:03
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TechrightsBot-trwww.theinquirer.net | Google in hot water over removed Android permissions app- The Inquirer  [ http://ur1.ca/g7gpz ]Dec 16 16:03
Sosumijust restore the functionalityDec 16 16:04
Sosumishould have been done immediately after that derpageDec 16 16:04
Sosumiunless it was actually intentionalDec 16 16:04
MinceRindeedDec 16 16:16
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iophkhttp://www.salon.com/2013/12/10/ayn_rand_loving_ceo_destroys_his_empire_partner/Dec 16 16:48
Sosumion the positive sideDec 16 17:08
Sosumisomeone now has a chance to find a honest job :)Dec 16 17:08
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MinceR> DRM made porn obsolete. I could fap all day to people fucked by DRMDec 16 18:35
MinceRhttp://www.badazzmofo.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/black-santa-POSTER-small.jpgDec 16 18:38
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SosumiDRM in one gifDec 16 19:31
Sosumihttps://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/7858379008/h90FD051C/Dec 16 19:31
MinceR:DDec 16 19:34
Sosumihttp://www.nbcnews.com/technology/nsa-can-listen-encrypted-phone-calls-theyre-not-only-ones-2D11744226?utm_medium=referral&utm_source=t.coDec 16 19:40
Sosumiarticle is dumb and missing that "special room" where the NSA puts their stuffDec 16 19:40
Sosumiand who says the NSA can say the portuguese SISDec 16 19:41
MinceRi knew that GSM was insecure, but what about UMTS?Dec 16 19:41
Sosumiat this point, I'd say insecure tooDec 16 19:44
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sebsebsebhi iophk MinceRDec 16 19:48
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iophkhiDec 16 19:49
sebsebsebiophk: looks ike I am going to be responsible for event merchandiceDec 16 19:50
sebsebsebor pretty muchDec 16 19:50
iophkmageia!Dec 16 19:50
sebsebsebiophk: heh heh Dec 16 19:50
sebsebsebiophk: need to sort my freebies examples bag out for tommorwDec 16 19:50
sebsebseb,but  yeah going to show them stufDec 16 19:50
sebsebsebkind of stuff that could haveDec 16 19:51
sebsebsebfor some deciosns on wht to have and such, b ut yeahDec 16 19:51
sebsebsebiophk: I guess either way can slip in some Mageia stuff  in anyway heh hehDec 16 19:51
sebsebsebif I really wantDec 16 19:51
iophkIt's a good distro...Dec 16 19:51
sebsebsebiophk: that's going to have a basic background for the next releaseDec 16 19:52
sebsebseb,but not to bad I thinkDec 16 19:52
sebsebsebfrom what I seen of proposalsDec 16 19:52
sebsebseb,but so not Fedora style for exampleDec 16 19:52
sebsebsebwell it's either one of those, or the old background it seemsDec 16 19:52
sebsebsebiophk: don't need to fancy for a default look really anyway I guessDec 16 19:53
sebsebseband people tend to change the backgorund anywayDec 16 19:53
iophkYeah it's one of the few things people still tend to change.Dec 16 19:53
sebsebsebiophk: some sort of blue probaly and flower type backgroundDec 16 19:54
sebsebseblooks okDec 16 19:54
sebsebsebI Mean the proposals I have seen, but yes very basicDec 16 19:54
sebsebsebbackgound stay for Grub  and log in screens usually thoughDec 16 19:55
sebsebseband control centre in this caseDec 16 19:55
sebsebsebiophk: so still my event then or well for merchandiceDec 16 19:56
sebsebsebit seems it will be thenDec 16 19:56
sebsebsebopenSUSE stuff that I won't be providingDec 16 19:57
iophkThat can get Mageia to people's homesDec 16 19:57
sebsebsebMint stuff that I won't be providingDec 16 19:57
sebsebsebUbuntu suff that I probably won't be providing, well maybe a little bit, but most of it nopeDec 16 19:57
sebsebsebother stuff well that I will be providing :dDec 16 19:57
sebsebsebiophk: yes seems there's a idea to have some cd's now to or something or for the choosen distro'sDec 16 19:58
sebsebsebiophk: no boycott Sony stickers for this evente htough I Think for exmapleDec 16 19:59
sebsebsebI think mos FSF stuff is out Dec 16 19:59
sebsebseband FSFE andsuchDec 16 19:59
sebsebsebiophk: I mean my idea is to have something about opensource/freesoftware poibly a fyer, but  in genral just to have stuff for distro's and end user software that is used such as FIrefox and Libre Office,  not for databases and what notDec 16 20:00
sebsebsebiophk: imagine giving a Boycott Sony sticker to a non techncalDec 16 20:01
sebsebsebthey won't understandDec 16 20:01
iophkprobably notDec 16 20:01
iophkFlyers might be good.Dec 16 20:02
sebsebsebiophk:  also  FSF has a nice  Hurd sticker, butDec 16 20:02
iophkPeople like to have something in hand.Dec 16 20:02
sebsebsebI think understanding what the penguin is will be confusisng noughDec 16 20:02
sebsebsebso I think Hurd sticker is out to thenDec 16 20:02
iophkMaybe one flier describing common apps.?Dec 16 20:02
sebsebsebfor exampleDec 16 20:02
sebsebsebiophk: oh they wil have a vidoe in the meeting roomDec 16 20:03
sebsebsebexplaining some stuff in videoDec 16 20:03
sebsebseb,but having  someflyers could be good toDec 16 20:03
sebsebsebFSF Europe has a nice on explaining aout free software and suchDec 16 20:03
sebsebsebthat kind of thing I am thinkingDec 16 20:03
iophkyes there were some ideas in your notes from the other month about what to put on  the videoDec 16 20:03
sebsebseboh they are just showing the desktops and how to openapps up etcDec 16 20:03
sebsebsebhe made a sample video ideaDec 16 20:03
sebsebsebmay just make own using a screencast someoneDec 16 20:03
sebsebsebiophk: Mageia isn't one of the distros now, and GNOME 3 isn't one of the interfaces now, so I don't care that much about those videos nowDec 16 20:04
sebsebseblet them make something for their  three choosen distros and interfaces I am thinkingDec 16 20:04
sebsebsebyep their not my  really, I wanted a fourth and you know what that isDec 16 20:05
sebsebsebI guess ended up taking it's spot as one of the three really, but odd not to have Ubuntu for that kind of event I thinkDec 16 20:05
sebsebsebI guess Ubuntu aboveDec 16 20:05
iophkMaybe Ubuntu in the swag?Dec 16 20:06
sebsebsebiophk: willl be interesting to see if not so technial users like Unityor notDec 16 20:07
iophkSome do, some don'tDec 16 20:07
sebsebsebnope it's been dieced theose three distros I told you aboutDec 16 20:07
sebsebseband that's that it seemsDec 16 20:07
sebsebsebiophk: having good stuff to igive out is importan I ThinkDec 16 20:08
sebsebsebpeople like picking up free stuff at eventsDec 16 20:08
sebsebseba lot doDec 16 20:08
iophkThat's why the DVDs / CDs are an ok choice.Dec 16 20:09
iophkAlso, as we talked about, they  can't be overwritten.Dec 16 20:09
sebsebsebwel seems there may be CD's and DVd's for distors toDec 16 20:09
sebsebseboffical onesDec 16 20:09
sebsebsebthere  was a mention of getting some Ubuntu CD's etc,  and something abobut covers for cd's possibly  making someDec 16 20:09
sebsebsebiophk: yep should be goodfor merchandice this I ThinkDec 16 20:11
sebsebsebfor freebiesDec 16 20:11
sebsebsebespeicaly if I am mainly in charge of that :)Dec 16 20:11
sebsebsebiophk: so do you think a flyer about what opensource/freesoftware isDec 16 20:12
sebsebsebis a good idea?Dec 16 20:12
sebsebsebexplained in a not so technical wayDec 16 20:12
sebsebsebFSFE has oneDec 16 20:12
sebsebsebthen it's also about joining FFSFE etc, so I was thinking something similar to that possiblyDec 16 20:12
iophkyes, cover some of the apps they will find usefulDec 16 20:12
sebsebsebalso  one about the LUGcould be goodDec 16 20:12
iophkfirefox, thunderbird, vlc, libreoffice, Dec 16 20:12
sebsebsebI got some some hwre for another LUGDec 16 20:13
sebsebsebiophk: well videos will cover osme of that I thinkDec 16 20:13
sebsebsebyep I got to go through stuff and sort  my bag out for tommorowDec 16 20:13
iophkyes, it would be good to have both flyers and video cover some of the same thingsDec 16 20:13
iophkyou will reach different peopleDec 16 20:13
sebsebsebiophk: I guess I split it up like this in the bag.  Ubuntu ustff in another bagDec 16 20:13
sebsebsebopen source in one bagDec 16 20:13
sebsebsebother stuf in another or something ike thatDec 16 20:13
sebsebsebiophk: wel there's going to b some old Linux magainze there for people to read as wel it seemsDec 16 20:14
sebsebseb,but flyers are still goodDec 16 20:14
iophk2 or 3 are enough.Dec 16 20:14
iophkOne for the LUG as you say.Dec 16 20:14
iophkOn for the apps.Dec 16 20:14
sebsebsebonefor Mageia mayb :dDec 16 20:14
iophkYep. :)Dec 16 20:15
sebsebsebcan havea  few flyers realy Dec 16 20:15
sebsebseb,but shoudn't over do itDec 16 20:15
iophkA small number is best.Dec 16 20:15
sebsebsebMagiea has a nice flyer :dDec 16 20:15
sebsebsebiophk: could wriete on t, contact  .... me Dec 16 20:15
sebsebsebif intrestedDec 16 20:15
sebsebseb:dDec 16 20:16
sebsebsebiophk: do I show them some of the Mageia tuff tomorow to I guess so breify :dDec 16 20:16
sebsebseba general showing of thingsDec 16 20:16
iophkI would think so.Dec 16 20:16
sebsebsebiophk: can put in fEDORA cd's een or somethingDec 16 20:16
sebsebsebifDec 16 20:16
sebsebsebwhateverDec 16 20:16
sebsebsebI mean they are nice toDec 16 20:16
sebsebsebor centos or yeah, yu know other distor'sDec 16 20:17
sebsebsebI'll bring a bag of general stuff, for dicussion etcDec 16 20:17
sebsebsebyep :0Dec 16 20:17
sebsebsebthat was meant to be a :)Dec 16 20:17
iophkthe USB sticks won't be effective.  If they put them in a Windows machine first, they get erased.Dec 16 20:18
sebsebsebI did mention that in a eaiDec 16 20:18
sebsebseb,but didn't get any reposne from what Iremember or as  suchDec 16 20:18
sebsebsebiophk: I gess may want to tell them not ot put in WIndows :dDec 16 20:18
sebsebsebor somethingDec 16 20:18
sebsebsebiophk: ,but hey it's not like it's my distro or interface being erasedif so :dDec 16 20:18
iophkThey won't listen.  Dec 16 20:19
sebsebsebright, but seems going to have dics as well now :)Dec 16 20:19
sebsebsebdiscsDec 16 20:19
iophkdiscs are the way to go.Dec 16 20:19
sebsebseb,but the discs wil just be freebieDec 16 20:19
sebsebsebsDec 16 20:19
sebsebsebthey wil still do this remaster stuffDec 16 20:19
iophkfreebie is fine, it's still a way to get the stoc.k distro to themDec 16 20:20
sebsebsebyep :)Dec 16 20:20
sebsebsebiophk: I'll shw them example of uBUNT U13.`10 cd'SDec 16 20:21
sebsebseband open suse even etc tommorwoDec 16 20:21
sebsebsebiophk: ,but smeone else was going to contact Ubuntu for stuff it seemsDec 16 20:21
sebsebsebhe may have alreadyDec 16 20:21
sebsebsebiophk: ,but since I got some of th wanted stuff already I  can showDec 16 20:21
sebsebseboh actually it's  13.04 I got, but  welll yeah example of what hte later c's look like ofical onesDec 16 20:22
sebsebsebiophk: I got uBUNTU ey rings and such here to, since I bought some stuff from Canonical, so may as well show that as wellDec 16 20:22
iophkHardware is ok.Dec 16 20:22
iophkThe logos persist.Dec 16 20:22
sebsebsebnot hardwareDec 16 20:22
iophkkeyringDec 16 20:23
sebsebseba key ring as in yep for keysDec 16 20:23
sebsebseb,but not hardwareDec 16 20:23
sebsebsebnot computer hardwareDec 16 20:23
sebsebsebiophk: Ubuntu and openSUSE have very nice stuff really, when it comes to this kind of htingDec 16 20:23
sebsebsebapparnatlly going to get some Mint stuff as wellDec 16 20:23
iophkexcept that the suse stuff is suseDec 16 20:23
sebsebsebheh heh well yeah but it still looks nice, a bit like how Mac  OS X or Apple hardware looks nice, but when well it's Apple,  a very propritary for profit money sucking companyDec 16 20:24
sebsebsebiophk: looking nice is what wil draw non technial people in thoughDec 16 20:25
sebsebsebespeically if it's got that commerial touch to things I think, like both openSUSE and Ubuntu haveDec 16 20:25
sebsebsebpeople generally trust companiesDec 16 20:25
sebsebsebyou seeDec 16 20:25
sebsebsebthose kind of people I meanDec 16 20:26
sebsebsebetcDec 16 20:26
sebsebsebiophk: many are consumers, they just buy stuff etc you knowDec 16 20:26
iophkUbuntu's looks polished even if it's not flexible.Dec 16 20:27
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Sosumihttp://www.macrumors.com/2013/12/16/tim-cook-and-other-tech-executive-to-meet-with-president-obama-again-to-discuss-nsa-surveillance-and-health-care-website/Dec 16 23:07
Sosumiso many bastards in one place...Dec 16 23:07
Sosumi- Tim Cook, CEO, AppleDec 16 23:08
Sosumi- Dick Costolo, CEO, TwitterDec 16 23:08
Sosumi- Chad Dickerson, CEO, EtsyDec 16 23:08
Sosumi- Reed Hastings, Co-Founder & CEO, NetflixDec 16 23:08
Sosumi- Drew Houston, Founder & CEO, DropboxDec 16 23:08
Sosumi- Marissa Mayer, President and CEO, Yahoo!Dec 16 23:08
Sosumi- Burke Norton, Chief Legal Officer, SalesforceDec 16 23:08
Sosumi- Mark Pincus, Founder, Chief Product Officer & Chairman, ZyngaDec 16 23:08
Sosumi- Shervin Pishevar, Co-Founder & Co-CEO, Sherpa GlobalDec 16 23:08
Sosumi- Brian Roberts, Chairman & CEO, ComcastDec 16 23:08
Sosumi- Erika Rottenberg, Vice President, General Counsel and Secretary, LinkedInDec 16 23:08
Sosumi- Sheryl Sandberg, COO, FacebookDec 16 23:08
Sosumi- Eric Schmidt, Executive Chairman, GoogleDec 16 23:08
Sosumi- Brad Smith, Executive Vice President and General Counsel, MicrosoftDec 16 23:08
Sosumi- Randall Stephenson, Chairman & CEO, AT&TDec 16 23:08
MinceRgnDec 16 23:21
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__martin__schestowitz: might be of interest; collection of ICT lobbying documents targeted towards EU Parliament et al.Dec 16 23:32
__martin__https://ameliaandersdotter.eu/uppkopplad-kontinentDec 16 23:33
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amarsh04http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/16/opinion/japans-dangerous-anachronism.html?smid=tw-share&_r=0Dec 17 08:15
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MinceRgeekingsDec 17 09:22
amarsh04hiDec 17 09:53
amarsh04http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/16/opinion/japans-dangerous-anachronism.html?smid=tw-share&_r=0Dec 17 09:53
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iophkamarsh04: scary attitude - “the affairs of government are distinct from the affairs of the people.”        Dec 17 10:06
amarsh04exactly, iophkDec 17 11:18
iophkhttp://www.pcworld.com/article/2080301/closing-the-door-on-windows-a-guide-to-changing-operating-systems.htmlDec 17 13:25
iophkstill claiming that M$ is vulnerable because of its market share rather than just plain bad designDec 17 13:27
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iophkeuphemism "parental controls" http://www.techweekeurope.co.uk/news/bt-parental-controls-network-level-134211Dec 17 13:57
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iophkMinceR: http://mrpogson.com/2013/12/17/the-latest-hungarian-revolution/Dec 17 14:17
MinceRi have little hope for further improvementDec 17 14:19
MinceRour m$ cult is pretty strong, it seemsDec 17 14:20
iophkThe list was all for Windows versions it looked like. Dec 17 14:20
iophkunder proposal  - "drivers would be expected to pay 10 euros a year  -- $13.80 at current exchange rates -- for the tracking device installed  in their cars."Dec 17 14:33
iophkhttp://www.alaskadispatch.com/article/20131216/finland-radical-road-tax-changes-proposedDec 17 14:33
iophkIt can be pointed out that current fuel taxes are already a per-kilometer tax on travel.Dec 17 14:33
iophkOllila is now on Shell's board, so I wonder how that ties in.Dec 17 14:34
MinceRwhat a great dealDec 17 14:35
MinceRyou get to pay for their spying on youDec 17 14:35
MinceRjust what this world needed desperately -- more spying.Dec 17 14:36
iophkTracking is probably the main goal, the other stuff being just dressing.Dec 17 14:36
MinceRpoor big brother is bored out of his skill, gotta give him more details of the lives of everybodyDec 17 14:37
MinceRs/kil/kul/Dec 17 14:37
MinceRyeah, being robbed is just extraDec 17 14:37
Sosuminorway spying on russia for the NSADec 17 14:52
SosumiI'm surprised, why no mention to swedenDec 17 14:53
Sosumihttp://t.co/ae1UnaCdUsDec 17 14:53
Sosumiuse this oneDec 17 14:54
Sosumiwww.youtube.com/watch?v=RBMFmeA13noDec 17 14:54
SosumiRevealed: Norway widely spies on Russia for NSA, new snowden leakDec 17 14:55
Sosumialso, I was expecting the new Mac "Pro" to be released todayDec 17 14:58
Sosumiso I could unload all my buttplug jokes on Phill Schiller's twitterDec 17 14:59
Sosumibut so far, disappointed :(Dec 17 14:59
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Sosumihttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/BbjnfNVCIAA_RIy.jpg:largeDec 17 15:22
MinceR:)Dec 17 15:24
iophkThis kind of thing does not help Google: http://www.techradar.com/news/world-of-tech/management/microsoft-loses-top-software-engineer-to-google-1208669Dec 17 15:35
MinceRindeedDec 17 15:38
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schestowitz__https://twitter.com/Morality124/status/412988734066290689Dec 17 17:19
TechrightsBot-tr@Morality124: @schestowitz  Cool. It's also on F-Droid BTW.Dec 17 17:19
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/412982630301569025  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/412983532366336001Dec 17 17:20
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: The EU and Microsoft’s 20-year marriage  http://t.co/4o730lSQ2x #corruption #eu #antitrustDec 17 17:20
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.presseurop.eu | Technology: The EU and Microsoft’s 20-year marriage | Presseurop.eu: European news, cartoons and press reviewsDec 17 17:20
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: Judge Questions Legality of N.S.A. Phone Records http://t.co/cP58Kh452T #nsa #surveillanceDec 17 17:20
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schestowitz__https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/412990839733121024  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/412991692678389760Dec 17 17:20
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: New indiegogo project to turn your Android device into a full Linux desktop computer http://t.co/Q2fzg8bpHw #android to #gnu #linuxDec 17 17:20
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TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: Hold onto your (red) hat: Fedora 20 is out http://t.co/SyIqV3qDJD #fedora #gnu #linux #redhatDec 17 17:20
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.infoworld.com | Hold onto your (red) hat: Fedora 20 is out | Linux - InfoWorldDec 17 17:20
iophk"The contract has been extended six times, in the total absence of  competing bidders, because no call for tenders went out before the deal  was signed."Dec 17 17:21
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/412992406402117632  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/412992902697336833  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/412994372222070784   https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/412994585401765889  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/412994761004703744Dec 17 17:22
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: Report accuses BT of supplying backdoors for #GCHQ and 3NSA http://t.co/fusour1roJ #bt can be sued, no?Dec 17 17:22
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TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: More #linux in #india http://t.co/TiZ7oFes2CDec 17 17:22
TechrightsBot-tr-> pib.nic.in | Press Information Bureau English ReleasesDec 17 17:22
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: Hands-on preview: SteamOS http://t.co/aYWWIylYfJ #steamos #steam #gnu #linuxDec 17 17:22
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TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: Mageia 4 Getting Closer with New Beta http://t.co/r1EcjvMLZc #mageia #gnu #linuxDec 17 17:22
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TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: FreeBSD 10.0 RC2 Brings Radeon KMS Fixes http://t.co/VR6h5c8ipd #freebsd #bsd #unixDec 17 17:22
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schestowitz__https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/412999797218762752Dec 17 17:37
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: McCain https://t.co/ekhRLWcmAQDec 17 17:37
SosumiBT, the company Bruce Schneier works onDec 17 17:48
SosumiI heard he's leavingDec 17 17:48
puppywatchgreatDec 17 17:55
puppywatchtoom lateDec 17 17:55
Sosumi*atDec 17 18:04
Sosumiyep, he's leavingDec 17 18:04
Sosumiand probably going to be hired by the NSA itselfDec 17 18:05
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MinceRhttps://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1501701_645288608848284_1771453903_n.jpgDec 17 19:14
iophkMinceR: e-mail attachments are only when an intranert fails at filesharingDec 17 19:17
iophk*intranetDec 17 19:17
iophkhttp://www.mercurynews.com/business/ci_24741581/facebook-starting-show-video-commercials-that-play-automaticallyDec 17 19:20
TechrightsBot-trwww.mercurynews.com | Facebook starting to show video commercials that play automatically - San Jose Mercury News  [ http://ur1.ca/g7nyr ]Dec 17 19:20
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/413029484221444096 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/413029562562256896  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/413029583865126912  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/413029626844168192Dec 17 19:43
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: "On Merkel" https://t.co/HBkBXitPTpDec 17 19:43
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: Shooting the Coffin https://t.co/s4oJ7bOoZDDec 17 19:43
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: "Obama administration’s lies about Syrian government responsibility for an August 21 chemical shelling" http://t.co/X2TSsSfbMBDec 17 19:43
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.wsws.org | UN Syrian chemical weapons report exposes Washington’s lies - World Socialist Web SiteDec 17 19:43
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: Fixing broken #seagate hard drives can wait another day, ended up going out for the birthday http://t.co/vu0t5ceNVZDec 17 19:43
TechrightsBot-tr-> schestowitz.com | Day Out and Birthday at Cora's RestaurantDec 17 19:43
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/413029626844168192  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/413031952896507904Dec 17 19:44
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: Who's paying who? Does Seagate pay #Microsoft 'license' for NTFS or does Microsoft bribe #seagate to make HDDs Microsoft patents-saddled?Dec 17 19:44
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/413032355171807232Dec 17 19:46
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: #seagate hard drives are too fragile and since they come w/ #microsoft preinstalled,this would probably void waranty https://t.co/Ma8vOqiGXjDec 17 19:46
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/413032540380078080Dec 17 19:47
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: In a world where the European Commission is not in bed with #microsoft there would be probes into NTFS/FAT patents bundling in hardware.Dec 17 19:47
MinceRa "seagate" hard drive might also well be a maxtorDec 17 19:47
MinceR(in other words, crap)Dec 17 19:47
schestowitzyesDec 17 19:48
schestowitzI wrote about that yesterdayDec 17 19:48
schestowitzThey took over the competitionDec 17 19:49
schestowitzSo now I can onyl choose between DRM+restrictions crap (WD) and quality/MS crapDec 17 19:49
schestowitzThere are hardly any contenders except those tooDec 17 19:49
schestowitzYesterday I saw a Toshiba (too small) and LaCie or something like thatDec 17 19:49
schestowitzExpensive and I don't think large enoughDec 17 19:50
schestowitzMaplin would not accept a warrantee after over a yearDec 17 19:50
schestowitzSeagate claims 2 years waranteeDec 17 19:50
schestowitzBut I bet they'll rant about it being ex4Dec 17 19:50
schestowitzand then say it voids the waranteeDec 17 19:50
schestowitz*yDec 17 19:50
schestowitzwarranty Dec 17 19:51
SosumipfffffffDec 17 19:51
Sosumibest optionDec 17 19:51
schestowitzI am trying all sorts of things ATMDec 17 19:51
schestowitzbought a second 3 TB driveDec 17 19:51
Sosumibuy a box and the HDD separateDec 17 19:51
Sosumithat's how I doDec 17 19:51
Sosumiso I don't have swallow the crappy HDD manufacturers put on those boxesDec 17 19:52
schestowitzformatted it, now copying over what's not damaged, hoping to then reformat the old  drive and if it's really damaged, then format as MS and ship back to them (as per RMA) for replacmentDec 17 19:52
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MinceRwd has drm now?Dec 17 19:52
schestowitzBTW, the internal HDDs I've had in recent years aren't tooDec 17 19:52
MinceRalso, what about hitachi?Dec 17 19:52
schestowitzbadDec 17 19:52
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schestowitzThe old laptop had its (Compaq BTW) drive die after a YEAR!! I replaced with Hitachi (IBM) and that lasted a good while... I think it was the last I needed, but in recent years it was impossible to install anything on... too much when it comes to bad sectors it seems...Dec 17 19:53
Sosumiunless it's those "cloud" enabled HDDs and/or in need of special software to setup, there's no drmDec 17 19:53
schestowitzAfter  years all HDDs seem to be going kaput or getting there rapidlyDec 17 19:53
schestowitzOhDec 17 19:54
schestowitzBTW!Dec 17 19:54
Sosumias for reliability, WD velociraptors so far have beaten everythingDec 17 19:54
schestowitzWestern Digital now has a new drive they stock at stores called "My Cloud". Who 'stole' whose name? #mycloudDec 17 19:54
MinceR:)Dec 17 19:54
MinceRwell, i have my own cloud :>Dec 17 19:55
Sosumithe oldest models I still have running are from 2008Dec 17 19:55
Sosumijust stay away from pre-packeaged HDDsDec 17 19:56
Sosumidiskless enclosures are the way to goDec 17 19:56
MinceRwhy?Dec 17 19:57
MinceRin the case of a pre-packaged hdd, if it breaks, it's easy to know whose warranty is supposed to cover itDec 17 19:57
Sosumino need for special software (like WD does) to configureDec 17 19:57
MinceRbut with an enclosure+hdd setup, everyone can blame the otherDec 17 19:57
Sosumiyou know what HDD is insideDec 17 19:57
MinceRmine so far just work as plain usb (2.0 or 3.0) mass storage devicesDec 17 19:57
MinceRthough i suspect this does block access to SMARTDec 17 19:58
SosumiI don't like to play the blame game ;)Dec 17 19:58
Sosumiplus, enterprise grade HDDs tend to come with 5 to 7 years warrantyDec 17 19:59
Sosumialso you can do your own boxDec 17 20:02
Sosumimod a pc case + psuDec 17 20:03
Sosumiand externalise the sata ports on the HDDs with a controllerDec 17 20:04
Sosumilet me find picts from a guy who did thatDec 17 20:05
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MinceR:)Dec 17 20:12
MinceRi don't think i ever had enterprise grade HDDsDec 17 20:12
Sosumihttp://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1303010Dec 17 20:17
TechrightsBot-trforums.macrumors.com | Cheaper, Better, Higher Quality eSATA Enclosure!-Use a PC case! - MacRumors Forums  [ http://ur1.ca/g7opl ]Dec 17 20:17
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/413040417098440704Dec 17 20:18
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: This new video makes me wonder if #microsoft paid #CollegeHumor http://t.co/pJoBFy5ea5 MS keeps worse information, has back doors to PCsDec 17 20:18
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.youtube.com | Google is Going to Blackmail You - YouTubeDec 17 20:18
SosumiI liked, too bad that it work on the buttplug pro since there is no special "thundercat" to esata adapterDec 17 20:20
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/413040976526323712Dec 17 20:20
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: Overlay of laser https://t.co/yn7MdniZl5Dec 17 20:20
*amarsh04 still has a working HDD from 1998Dec 17 20:24
amarsh04[0:0:6:0]    disk    IBM      DCAS-34330W      S65A  /dev/sdaDec 17 20:24
Sosumiwe need with one theseDec 17 20:29
Sosumihttp://ncsctechnologychair.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/ibm5mb.jpgDec 17 20:29
Sosumistill functionalDec 17 20:29
Sosumiand turn it into a totally hipster, portable/backpack, music player that plays the same track on a loopDec 17 20:33
Sosumithat'd be legendaryDec 17 20:34
MinceRi think that would just root you to the spot if you tried to wear it as a backpack :>Dec 17 20:38
MinceRlike an anchorDec 17 20:38
SosumiI liftDec 17 20:39
Sosumiso I don't think that'd be a problemDec 17 20:39
MinceRi think it would be :>Dec 17 20:39
MinceRthough you could put wheels under it...Dec 17 20:39
Sosuminah, I'd just yell this is sparta!Dec 17 20:40
MinceRi think it's a RAMACDec 17 20:40
Sosumi5MB I thinkDec 17 20:41
MinceR"The RAMAC unit weighed over a ton, had to be moved around with forklifts, and was delivered via large cargo airplanes."Dec 17 20:41
MinceRso it's not just a strength issue, it's also a center of mass issueDec 17 20:41
MinceR:>Dec 17 20:41
SosumiI was joking, when I said that :)Dec 17 20:41
MinceRi suspected soDec 17 20:41
Sosumihttp://hexus.net/tech/news/graphics/62093-amd-denies-sending-golden-sample-r290-cards-reviewers/Dec 17 20:44
TechrightsBot-trhexus.net | AMD denies sending ‘golden sample’ R290 cards to reviewers - Graphics - News - HEXUS.net  [ http://ur1.ca/g7ozn ]Dec 17 20:44
Sosumiyet, retail cards perform worse than the review unitsDec 17 20:45
SosumiI think it may have been an issue with binningsDec 17 20:47
Sosumi*mightDec 17 20:47
Sosumibut who knows :)Dec 17 20:47
iophkmore entryismDec 17 20:50
iophkhttp://www.reuters.com/article/2013/12/17/usa-healthcare-delbene-idUSL2N0J014Z20131217Dec 17 20:50
TechrightsBot-trwww.reuters.com | Kurt DelBene, retired Microsoft exec, to oversee Obamacare website overhaul | Reuters  [ http://ur1.ca/g7p1m ]Dec 17 20:50
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2013/07/15/office-headless/Dec 17 21:00
TechrightsBot-trtechrights.org | President of the Microsoft Office Division (Kurt DelBene) Leaves the Company | Techrights  [ http://ur1.ca/g7p54 ]Dec 17 21:00
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2010/09/05/former-softies-become-politicians/Dec 17 21:00
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2011/01/04/suzan-delbene-appointment/Dec 17 21:00
TechrightsBot-trtechrights.org | Microsoft’s Veteran Suzan DelBene ‘Part of the Problem’ in D.C. | Techrights  [ http://ur1.ca/1i3og ]Dec 17 21:00
TechrightsBot-trtechrights.org | Yet More Microsoft Staff (Now Suzan DelBene) Enters Government to Assist Microsoft’s Looting of the System | Techrights  [ http://ur1.ca/2qqmt ]Dec 17 21:00
schestowitz!google suzan delbene kurtDec 17 21:01
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Suzan DelBene - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suzan_DelBeneDec 17 21:01
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - About | Suzan DelBene for Congress | http://www.delbeneforcongress.com/index.php/aboutDec 17 21:01
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Microsoft Notebook: Time as football ref serves marketing exec well ... | http://www.seattlepi.com/business/article/Microsoft-Notebook-Time-as-football-ref-serves-1169008.phpDec 17 21:01
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Former Microsoft exec Kurt DelBene to tackle Obamacare website fix ... | http://blogs.seattletimes.com/politicsnorthwest/2013/12/17/former-microsoft-office-chief-kurt-delbene-tapped-for-obamacare-site-fix/Dec 17 21:01
schestowitzsee [4]Dec 17 21:01
schestowitz"Spouse(s)Kurt"Dec 17 21:02
schestowitzhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suzan_DelBeneDec 17 21:02
TechrightsBot-tren.wikipedia.org | Suzan DelBene - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia  [ http://ur1.ca/g7p5o ]Dec 17 21:02
iophk"Suzan DelBene, a freshman Democrat from Medina and a former Microsoft executive herself."Dec 17 21:02
iophkSomeone with influence obviously wants healthcare.gov to fail badly...Dec 17 21:11
MinceRcould it be the GOP? :>Dec 17 21:13
MinceR(more likely one of the companies that has bought them for more than they've bought the democrats for...)Dec 17 21:13
Sosumiobamacare is trashDec 17 21:20
Sosumifrom what I heardDec 17 21:20
Sosumibut having those two guys thereDec 17 21:21
Sosumiit'll make things only worseDec 17 21:21
schestowitziophk: am writing about itDec 17 21:22
schestowitzseems urgent enough an issue...Dec 17 21:22
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MinceRsomeone is claiming it even covers some sort of implanted RFID chipDec 17 21:34
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/SemiAccurate/status/413060868927004672Dec 17 21:48
TechrightsBot-tr@SemiAccurate: @schestowitz thank you for your very kind and useful reply :DDec 17 21:48
schestowitzCharlie is a good writer; and if you (as a company) try to game him,  he speaks out :-)Dec 17 21:49
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/413063185449893889Dec 17 21:49
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: ‘Retired’ Microsoft Staff and the Takeover of the Government  http://t.co/9oPkIssjr8 #microsoft #eu #obamacare #obamaDec 17 21:49
TechrightsBot-tr-> techrights.org | ‘Retired’ Microsoft Staff and the Takeover of the Government | TechrightsDec 17 21:49
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/413064547202007040 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/413065496154869760Dec 17 22:00
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: #TSA strategy is a disaster http://t.co/TtFNAIiTC3Dec 17 22:00
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.dailymail.co.uk | Strip search: Outraged India backs retaliation against US after treatment of its country's diplomat  | Mail OnlineDec 17 22:00
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: #linux is massive now (GNU also) http://t.co/vsdD0MbIaFDec 17 22:00
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.linux.com | 2013: The Year of Linux on the...Everything | Linux.comDec 17 22:00
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/413066759177240576Dec 17 22:03
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: Any workaround for slow data transfers from one HDD to another (over 2 USB3 ports/cables)? Surely can do better than 400MB/hour via PC.Dec 17 22:03
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/413072856520876032Dec 17 22:27
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: Spending one's birthday trying to salvage data which seems impossible restore due to #seagate *****ness - worst day ever.Dec 17 22:27
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/413074986518470656Dec 17 22:35
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: Is South #Korea moving to #Ubuntu from #Windows XP? http://t.co/pSQKBhiw7z wow, looks legit http://t.co/2Mu4RNprouDec 17 22:35
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.muktware.com | Is South Korea moving to Ubuntu from Windows XP? | MuktwareDec 17 22:35
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.businesskorea.co.kr | Alternative to Windows XP: Ubuntu Emerges as Free Alternative Operating System to Windows | BusinessKoreaDec 17 22:36
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/agente_smithe/status/413088355749203968Dec 17 23:44
TechrightsBot-tr@agente_smithe: @schestowitz South Korea ? Hardly. North Korea, in the other hand, could do it.Dec 17 23:44
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/413092410441596928Dec 17 23:44
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: "System update downloaded. Touch to install." Google has modified my system remotely and silently for second time in 3 weeks. Can't refuse.Dec 17 23:44
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/413093110672285697Dec 17 23:47
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: Not just Google moves away from x86 http://t.co/GxhSPVUhQcDec 17 23:47
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.muktware.com | Mainstream ARM support might arrive with Ubuntu 14.04 | MuktwareDec 17 23:47
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DaemonFChttp://gawker.com/woman-learns-invaluable-lesson-about-not-picking-fights-1484881340Dec 18 00:40
TechrightsBot-trgawker.com | Woman Learns Invaluable Lesson About Not Picking Fights with Stray Cats  [ http://ur1.ca/g7qlv ]Dec 18 00:40
DaemonFCMinceR should like this.Dec 18 00:40
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DaemonFCshared a link via Democratic Governors Association (DGA).Dec 18 00:58
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DaemonFChttp://www.politico.com/story/2013/12/internal-poll-rick-scott-charlie-crist-101236.htmlDec 18 00:59
TechrightsBot-trwww.politico.com | Internal Rick Scott poll: Charlie Crist up in Florida - James Hohmann - POLITICO.com  [ http://ur1.ca/g7qss ]Dec 18 00:59
DaemonFCOne of the reasons that the Republican governors are going to have a hard time winning their next election is because the millions of working poor that they screwed out of Medicaid coverage are finally realizing that they have indeed been screwed by their Republican governor.Dec 18 00:59
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DaemonFChttp://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/12/17/1263386/-Low-wage-food-service-workers-get-a-union-at-two-Smithsonian-museumsDec 18 00:59
TechrightsBot-trwww.dailykos.com | Daily Kos: Low-wage food service workers get a union at two Smithsonian museums  [ http://ur1.ca/g7qt2 ]Dec 18 00:59
DaemonFCIt's true that President Obama *could* sign an executive order requiring good pay and benefits for the minimum wage employees of federal contractors, but he won't because he's basically a very right-wing corporate Democrat, who would have been called a Republican 30-40 years ago. (If he'd also been white.)Dec 18 01:00
DaemonFCHe enjoys putting deficit reduction on the backs of the poor for the same reason that corporate CEOs love making $9,600 an hour on the backs of the poor.Dec 18 01:00
DaemonFCIt's easy to do, and the victims have little with which to fight back.Dec 18 01:00
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DaemonFChttp://gawker.com/the-world-finally-ends-for-infamous-doomsday-preacher-h-1485018370Dec 18 01:00
TechrightsBot-trgawker.com | The World Finally Ends for Infamous Doomsday Preacher Harold Camping  [ http://ur1.ca/g7qtk ]Dec 18 01:00
DaemonFCThere have been many idiots that proclaim that a particular day will be doomsday.Dec 18 01:00
DaemonFCPat Robertson has done it several times, and still has people who listen to him and watch the 700 club. He's managed to pick specific dates, blame it on gay people and other favorite targets of hate of the Christian Right, and then walk it back every single time it didn't happen. Each time it doesn't happen, all he has to do is say "God spoke to me and said he changed his mind". That's a neat trick.Dec 18 01:00
DaemonFCIt's like Obi Wan Kenobi said in Star Wars."Who is more foolish? The fool, or the fool who follows him?".Dec 18 01:00
DaemonFCshared a link.Dec 18 01:02
DaemonFC4 hours agoDec 18 01:02
DaemonFChttp://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/12/federal-judge-finds-nsa-spying-unconstitutional/Dec 18 01:02
TechrightsBot-trarstechnica.com | Updated: Federal judge finds NSA phone spying likely unconstitutional | Ars Technica  [ http://ur1.ca/g7quh ]Dec 18 01:02
DaemonFCThis is good, but I doubt it will make them stop. They have no respect for the law, so why would they respect a court of law?Dec 18 01:02
DaemonFCshared George Takei's photo.Dec 18 01:04
DaemonFC9 hours agoDec 18 01:04
DaemonFChttps://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/p480x480/1527063_824170067612448_1291304141_n.jpgDec 18 01:04
DaemonFCI don't have that problem. Gnu/Linux doesn't have IE, just the browsers that are worth using. And they are all optional. :)Dec 18 01:04
DaemonFCYesterdayDec 18 01:05
DaemonFCI'm tired of watching rich people buy their way out of trouble. Instead of allowing the dad of the teenager that drove drunk and killed four people to pay $500,000 a year to send him to "rehab", they need to send him to one of those for-profit prisons where they feed everyone gruel and make them work for 25 cents an hour, and then have his dad spend $500,000 a year to compensate the survivors of the wreck he caused, and the families of the Dec 18 01:05
DaemonFCpeople he killed, for the rest of their lives. If his parents leave anything behind after they die of old age, it should be put into a trust to keep that fund going.Dec 18 01:05
DaemonFCThey created the monster. They need to have some consequences too. But, since they're rich, nothing ever gets done to them. That teenager will never learn right from wrong, and when he's out of rehab, he'll just go on doing whatever he wants and paying a small (for him) fine.Dec 18 01:05
DaemonFC2 seconds agoDec 18 01:07
DaemonFCTed Nugent, the hero of the far right, said that to get out of the Vietnam Draft, he purposely crapped his pants and then walked into the recruitment office as a "walking talking crusted pile of poop".Dec 18 01:07
DaemonFCSome things don't change.Dec 18 01:07
Sosumihttp://www.wired.com/business/2013/12/facebook-autoplaying-video-ads/Dec 18 01:19
TechrightsBot-trwww.wired.com | Facebook Forces Video Ads on You Because Marketers Told It To | Wired Business | Wired.com  [ http://ur1.ca/g7r2z ]Dec 18 01:19
SosumiNOOOOOOO!Dec 18 01:19
SosumiFacebook forces adds on users because it can!Dec 18 01:20
Sosumijust like google and video adds interrupting you after ~5 to 7 secs in a videoDec 18 01:22
Sosumibecause they can get away with itDec 18 01:22
DaemonFCOne of the things that scares Republicans about the Affordable Care Act is that it asks people if they want to register to vote.Dec 18 01:29
DaemonFCThe people shopping for health insurance, who are low income and (a) qualify for subsidies for private insurance or (b) qualify for Medicaid are exactly the type of people that the Republicans don't want voting. The working poor. The people who are being beaten into the ground by right wing politicians every time they go to work and clock in and make $7-8 an hour.Dec 18 01:29
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DaemonFCIf the Democrats are smart, they'll keep pushing for a minimum wage increase to $10-11 an hour. It's not just good policy, it will get the attention of people who are being exploited, and want the exploitation to stop.Dec 18 01:31
DaemonFCWorking for less than $10 an hour is basically slave labor. You won't get a good apartment and you'll probably need food stamps.Dec 18 01:32
DaemonFCSo, that's where the slumlords and the other corporate subsidy (taxpayers propping up the low wage structure) come in.Dec 18 01:32
DaemonFCThere wouldn't be four people trying to get Section 8 housing for each person that it is capable of serving if the minimum wage was raised to $10-11 an hour.Dec 18 01:33
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DaemonFChttp://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/12/17/1263409/-Pat-Robertson-really-really-likes-Vladimir-PutinDec 18 01:37
TechrightsBot-trwww.dailykos.com | Daily Kos: Pat Buchanan really, really likes Vladimir Putin  [ http://ur1.ca/g7rac ]Dec 18 01:37
DaemonFCThe Christian Right are siding with the former Soviet KGB agent that now presides over Russia, because they both hate gay people.Dec 18 01:37
DaemonFC2 seconds agoDec 18 01:47
DaemonFCOne of the things that will certainly happen when you tell people that the minimum wage is too low, is that they will defend the low wage, because their employer pays them $1-2 an hour more, and they're worried that they will be "less better off" than the people who were actually making minimum wage. There's a simple explanation for that. People would rather see the people around them suffering more than they are, than see those people get a Dec 18 01:47
DaemonFChand up.Dec 18 01:47
DaemonFCWhat these people don't see is that when the wage floor is so low, that gives employers cover to pay $8-9 an hour and claim that they "don't pay minimum wage". Walmart does this. They don't pay minimum wage, but you can't live like that.Dec 18 01:47
DaemonFCWhen I worked at my first job, in 2002, right after getting my GED, I made $8.54 an hour, or $11.06 an hour in 2013 dollars. The factory jobs that you see in Huntington now tend to start out at $9 an hour, or $6.95 in 2002 dollars.Dec 18 01:47
DaemonFCWhat people don't see is that wages are actually rapidly moving backwards, due to inflation, a stagnant minimum wage, and "free trade".Dec 18 01:47
DaemonFCshared a link via Daily Kos.Dec 18 02:19
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DaemonFChttp://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/12/17/1263427/-Sen-Warren-and-6-others-introduce-bill-barring-employers-from-rejecting-job-seekers-for-bad-credit?detail=facebookDec 18 02:19
TechrightsBot-trwww.dailykos.com | Daily Kos: Sen. Warren and 6 others introduce bill barring employers from rejecting job seekers for bad credit  [ http://ur1.ca/g7ruf ]Dec 18 02:19
DaemonFCI think it's disgusting that a minimum wage job offer from Walmart gives them the right to make you pee in a cup, submit to a credit check, and hand over your Facebook username and password.Dec 18 02:19
DaemonFCAll of this should be against the law.Dec 18 02:19
DaemonFC shared a link.Dec 18 02:29
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DaemonFChttp://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2013/dec/14/toxic-ewaste-illegal-dumping-developing-countriesDec 18 02:29
TechrightsBot-trwww.theguardian.com | Toxic 'e-waste' dumped in poor nations, says United Nations | Global development | The Observer  [ http://ur1.ca/g7ryf ]Dec 18 02:29
DaemonFCMost of the iThings that crApple sells to "consumers" this Christmas will end up in the trash in less than two years.Dec 18 02:29
DaemonFCMany people end up buying the "current" iThing halfway into its product lifecycle, for full price of course, only to discover one year later, that it can't run the latest software.Dec 18 02:30
DaemonFCOn the other hand, most current Android apps only need Android version 2.2 or 2.3.Dec 18 02:30
Sosumihttp://yro.slashdot.org/story/13/12/17/2346222/swedish-man-fined-650000-for-sharing-1-movie-charged-extra-for-low-quality?utm_source=slashdot&utm_medium=twitterDec 18 02:30
TechrightsBot-tryro.slashdot.org | Swedish Man Fined $650,000 For Sharing 1 Movie, Charged Extra For Low Quality - Slashdot  [ http://ur1.ca/g7ryl ]Dec 18 02:30
Sosumi:)Dec 18 02:30
DaemonFCSo, if people chose Android instead of Apple, the amount of e-waste entering landfills would be cut significantly.Dec 18 02:31
Sosumitrue thatDec 18 02:32
Sosumijust look at their new mac proDec 18 02:32
Sosumican't even upgrade the gpuDec 18 02:32
DaemonFCThe crApple e-waste problem is an even bigger problem than the fact that crApple iThings don't respect your freedom.Dec 18 02:32
Sosumimachines that would otherwise have a longer lifespam, due to the gpu upgradesDec 18 02:33
Sosumiwill now ladt at large 3 yearsDec 18 02:33
Sosumi*lastDec 18 02:33
prurigronaw, they'll last forever-- just throw linux on em :)Dec 18 02:33
sebsebsebprurigro: openSUSE LinuxDec 18 02:34
sebsebsebor UbuntuDec 18 02:34
sebsebsebyeah Dec 18 02:34
sebsebsebheh hehDec 18 02:34
Sosumino, I meant in the sense of keeping harware up to dateDec 18 02:34
prurigrosebsebseb: ewwDec 18 02:34
prurigro:)Dec 18 02:34
sebsebsebprurigro: how about some Linux Mint, to try and get rid of your eww taste?Dec 18 02:34
prurigrosebsebseb: might as well just elementary it up while you're at itDec 18 02:35
prurigroSosumi: I replaced my 8 year old computer's GPU a month ago when the old one finally burnt outDec 18 02:35
prurigroseems about the sameDec 18 02:35
Sosumiyou know that you can use multiple gpus for compute, right?Dec 18 02:36
Sosumithat's the whole point of agressively keeping up with upgradesDec 18 02:36
prurigronot mine, but I'm aware this is possible- not sure what that would imply?Dec 18 02:36
Sosumibecause with time your code also increases in complexityDec 18 02:37
prurigromy 8 year old gpu was running the latest 3d desktops and 1080p video without breaking a sweatDec 18 02:37
prurigrotrying to mine bitcoin with it was another story... but hey :)Dec 18 02:38
prurigronvidia cards aren't the best for that anywayDec 18 02:38
prurigrowell, nowdays you need an ASIC to do anything worthwhileDec 18 02:39
prurigrobut this was a year agoDec 18 02:39
SosumiI was just alluring to offloading of tasks onto the gpu with programs like mathematica or matlabDec 18 02:41
Sosumior your own tools/programsDec 18 02:41
prurigrohm, does osx let you do that?Dec 18 02:41
SosumiyepDec 18 02:43
DaemonFCI can't see the logic in paying $600 for a computer that won't be fully usable in a year, and won't even be supported in two.Dec 18 02:43
DaemonFCBut, people do stupid things.Dec 18 02:43
Sosumi600€?Dec 18 02:43
SosumiI wishDec 18 02:43
prurigrolol yeah, that's like the bottom of a mac miniDec 18 02:43
Sosumimore like 6000€Dec 18 02:44
prurigroermDec 18 02:44
Sosumimac mine is trashDec 18 02:44
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prurigroI haven't seen as low as $600, haven't seen as high as $6000 either thoDec 18 02:44
Sosumithat's because you've never looked at their workstationsDec 18 02:45
Sosumithe ones that used to come with dual xeon and had expansion slotsDec 18 02:45
Sosumifor example my fully maxed 2009 mac pro costed me 5500€ in 2009Dec 18 02:46
Sosumiand that's €, not $Dec 18 02:46
prurigroI'll admit, I don't spend much time in mac stores lolDec 18 02:46
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sebsebsebprurigro: last time I was in oneDec 18 02:47
sebsebsebprurigro: with two pepleDec 18 02:47
Sosumibut it ended up being cheaper than a similar HP Z workstationDec 18 02:47
sebsebsebfirst time in one as welDec 18 02:47
Sosumibecause of the education discountDec 18 02:47
sebsebsebprurigro: anyway  there  I was andDec 18 02:47
sebsebsebprurigro: I saw why I didn't just buy Mac etcDec 18 02:47
sebsebsebprurigro: the ignorant consumers looking at Micrsooft Offfice on Mac and things like that uhDec 18 02:47
sebsebseband the bling draiwng people in Dec 18 02:48
sebsebseband yeahDec 18 02:48
prurigrololDec 18 02:48
prurigrodon't forget third party items at like 5 times the costDec 18 02:48
Sosumilike?Dec 18 02:48
sebsebsebwhat for Mac?Dec 18 02:48
prurigrolike portable hddsDec 18 02:49
prurigrofor their ssd-based laptopsDec 18 02:49
Sosumionly the thunderbolt onesDec 18 02:49
prurigroI helped the head of my dept pick out a laptop for his daughter, last time I was in oneDec 18 02:49
prurigroit was some 3rd partyDec 18 02:50
prurigroI found the same one at one of the good computer shops in town for literally half the priceDec 18 02:50
prurigrobut "we were already there"Dec 18 02:50
prurigroI suppose that's as much a ploy as anything else-- you never find an apple store next to a real computer placeDec 18 02:51
prurigroman, he got a macbook air tooDec 18 02:51
prurigroand like, I have the zenbook prime, which is basically the same size and weight as the air, and it was $200 cheaperDec 18 02:52
prurigroand everything in my laptop is betterDec 18 02:52
prurigroespecially the display though- man did mine look better sitting next to thatDec 18 02:53
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DaemonFCshared a link.Dec 18 03:04
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DaemonFChttp://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/dec/12/sexting-victoria-makes-it-an-offenceDec 18 03:04
TechrightsBot-trwww.theguardian.com | Sexting: Victoria makes it an offence to send explicit images without consent | World news | theguardian.com  [ http://ur1.ca/g7s9p ]Dec 18 03:04
DaemonFCIt doesn't make any sense to punish the recipient of a sext. You have no control over the picture files that other people send to your mobile phone.Dec 18 03:04
DaemonFCThese laws basically say that anyone can put any file onto your computer, and then the government can punish you for having that file.Dec 18 03:05
DaemonFCAlarmingly, most US states and the federal government have laws like this.Dec 18 03:05
DaemonFCshared a link.Dec 18 06:06
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DaemonFCUsing a vaccination program as a front to search for Bin Laden has done irreparable harm to vaccination programs. If you don't care about the people dying of these diseases in other countries, just remember that things that have been defeated in the United States have a way of coming back.Dec 18 06:06
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